From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 12:08:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38H870m012855 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:08:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:08:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DB9FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:06:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:06:59 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38H6xD0011172 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:06:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:06:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:06:58 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: pope names Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Am I right in thinking that "the first" is only in retrospect - like you don't get to be Sr. until there's a Jr.? I don't remember with JP1 - was he just JP until Wojtyla picked JP2? BrP >>> cwv@GWI.NET 4/8/2005 12:47:21 PM >>> At 12:08 PM 4/8/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Of course you could pick a whole new name that hasn't been used before >- or if you're really pretentious you be JesusII. Personally, if I were >eligible I'd either be Sixtus VI or Hilarius II. How about Judas I ? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 12:08:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38H870m012854 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:08:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:08:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DB9D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:58:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:58:07 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38Gw5Mc009451 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:58:05 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:58:05 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:57:51 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: pope names Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU oops JP3 escaped the version of the list I posted to words-l and yes, PeterII would be pretentious as well - but at this point I suspect JP3 would be too. Whoever gets the white smoke will have a tough time following so popular a predecessor. BrP >>> trueflint@GMAIL.COM 4/8/2005 12:19:23 PM >>> Peter II might also be pretentious. What? No John Paul III? -- Take care, Tom Lee Not b.m.r.c. On Apr 8, 2005 11:08 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > So the Cardinals will be convening to pick the next Pope and any bapized > male Roman Catholic is eligible. In case any of you are b.m.r.c. I > thought you might like to have the list of available Pope names. > > Adeotatus III,Adrian VII,Agapetus III,Agatho II,Alexander IX,Anacletus > II,Anastasius V,Anicetus II,Anterus II, > Benedict XVI,Boniface IX, > Caius II,Callistus IV,Celestine VI,Clement XV,Conon II,Constantine > II,Cornelius II, > Damasus III,Dionysius II,Donus II, > Eleutherius II,Eugene V,Eusebius II,Eutychian II,Evaristus II, > Fabian II,Felix V,Formosus II, > Gelasius III,Gregory XVII, > Hilarius II,Honorius V,Hormisdas II,Hyginus II, > Innocent XIV, > John XXIV,Julius IV, > Lando II,Leo XIV,Liberius I,Lucius IV, > Marcellinus II,Marcellus III,Marcus II,Marinus III,Martin VI,Miltiades > II, > Nicholas VI, > Paschal III,Paul VII,Pelagius III,Peter II,Pius XIII,Pontain II, > Romanus II, > Sabinian II,Sergius V,Severinus II,Silverius II,Simplicius II,Siricius > II,Sisinnius II,Sixtus VI, > Soter II,Stephen XI,Sylvester IV,Symmachus II, > Telesphorus II,Theodore III, > Urban IX, > Valentine II,Victor IV,Vigilius II,Vitalian II, > Zachary II,Zephyrinus II,Zosimus II > > Of course you could pick a whole new name that hasn't been used before > - or if you're really pretentious you be JesusII. Personally, if I were > eligible I'd either be Sixtus VI or Hilarius II. > > BrP > - always trying to be helpful > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 12:10:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38HAo0m013060 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:10:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:10:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF587C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:00:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:00:48 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38H0lnI010054 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:00:48 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-195.gwi.net [216.195.164.195]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j38H0h0o059643; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:00:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050408124601.01c00a08@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:47:21 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: pope names In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:08 PM 4/8/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Of course you could pick a whole new name that hasn't been used before >- or if you're really pretentious you be JesusII. Personally, if I were >eligible I'd either be Sixtus VI or Hilarius II. How about Judas I ? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 12:11:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38HBY0m013127 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:11:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:11:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DBAEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:11:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:11:33 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38HBWuR012113 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:11:32 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so1304936rne for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.74.9 with SMTP id w9mr1652113rna; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.86.25 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:11:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=f0UkmDiPyWtI5+5+8j2W67dCxC4vz5ZwnIcIqyk6CVpUgRaJEU3f93uDf3XcOxCRY1mu4okAORRRx2rEHH9jto9xOqMahkk+veme8j10DrhWNz+E4umGspqUEnf2A8uH6yeKj6WEpVWUzGs4IwW2ibgWphxTeuhW6uM/aq7jI60= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705040810115528fc4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:11:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pope names In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j38HBY0m013127 On Apr 8, 2005 12:06 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Am I right in thinking that "the first" is only in retrospect - like you > don't get to be Sr. until there's a Jr.? I don't remember with JP1 - > was he just JP until Wojtyla picked JP2? Yes. -- Karen "Snow is like sand, ice is like slate." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 12:52:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38Hqa0m017210 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:52:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:52:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DBBF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:52:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:52:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j38HgXmf017499 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:42:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 38023 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Apr 2005 17:42:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:42:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pope names Message-ID: <20050408174231.GA32297@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 12:57:51PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > and yes, PeterII would be pretentious as well - but at this point I > suspect JP3 would be too. Whoever gets the white smoke will have a > tough time following so popular a predecessor. This makes no sense. Are you trying to hook a "column" in some periodical? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 13:11:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38IBK0m019382 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:11:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:11:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DBB68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:01:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:01:19 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38I1IwJ019939 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:01:18 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:01:18 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:01:08 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: pope names Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU huh? BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/8/2005 1:42:33 PM >>> Are you trying to hook a "column" in some periodical? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 13:11:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38IBK0m019383 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:11:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:11:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DBAC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:10:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 39685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:10:28 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38IARWw021542 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:10:27 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF5B22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:10:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200504081810.j38IARWw021542@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:10:27 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: pope names To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:01:08 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >huh? > >BrP > >>>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/8/2005 1:42:33 PM >>> > >Are you trying to hook a "column" in some periodical? Yes. Do you have one in mind? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 13:11:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38IBK0m019384 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:11:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:11:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DBB85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:03:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 39063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:03:38 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38I3cJp020313 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:03:38 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-195.gwi.net [216.195.164.195]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j38I3V0o069711; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:03:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050408140237.01bf9520@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:03:30 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: pope names In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:06 PM 4/8/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Am I right in thinking that "the first" is only in retrospect - like you >don't get to be Sr. until there's a Jr.? I don't remember with JP1 - >was he just JP until Wojtyla picked JP2? However, if the successful candidate can really choose... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 13:13:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38IDd0m019587 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:13:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:13:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DBBDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:13:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:13:39 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38IDcMd022183 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:13:38 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:13:38 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:13:08 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: pope names Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU well... >>> cwv@GWI.NET 4/8/2005 2:03:30 PM >>> At 01:06 PM 4/8/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Am I right in thinking that "the first" is only in retrospect - like you >don't get to be Sr. until there's a Jr.? I don't remember with JP1 - >was he just JP until Wojtyla picked JP2? However, if the successful candidate can really choose... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 13:42:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38Ift0m022049 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:41:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:42:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DBBDE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:41:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 43244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:41:54 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38IfsmD027465 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:41:54 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:41:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:41:42 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: more on Pope names Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hilarius II might actually be an appropriate choice. Hilarius (I) followed Leo the Great "Hilarius succeeded a very popular and very active pope - not an easy task, but Hilarius had worked closely with Leo and made an effort to model his own papacy after that of his mentor." (don't yell at me - the quote is from about.com but I thought it sounded like a familiar situation) BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 14:00:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38J0H0m023585 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:00:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:00:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DBC34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:16 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38J0FRY031311 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.81]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050408190015.NGXR2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:00:15 -0400 Message-ID: <4256D4BC.1030807@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:00:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: FingerFest Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Your reservation has been confirmed. > >Chain: Microtel Inns and Suites >Property Name: Microtel Inn Syracuse (East) >Property Address: 6608 Old Collamer Rd, East Syracuse, New York, United States, 13057 >Property Phone Number: 315-437-3500 >Reservation Phone: 1-888-771-7171 >Arrival Date: Friday, July 1, 2005 >Departure Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 >Room Description: 1 QUEEN NON SMOKING >Rate Description: Spring Fling Rates > >Number of Adults: 1 >Number of Rooms/Suites: 1 >Number of Beds: 1 >Quoted Rate: 46.00 United States Dollars >Confirmed Rate: 46.00 United States Dollars > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 14:29:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38JTU0m026549 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:29:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:29:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DBE5C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:09:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:08:49 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38J8nTh000923 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:08:49 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 92534330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:08:48 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050408120816.00bab0f8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:08:47 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: FingerFest In-Reply-To: <4256D4BC.1030807@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did you decide to fly or drive? Arrival Date: Friday, July 1, 2005 >>Departure Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 14:29:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38JTU0m026552 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:29:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:29:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DBE7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:14:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 46708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:14:31 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38JEVwm002050 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:14:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.81]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050408191430.WAAK2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:14:30 -0400 Message-ID: <4256D814.9010907@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:14:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FingerFest References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050408120816.00bab0f8@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050408120816.00bab0f8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Did you decide to fly or drive? Drive. I guess the decision isn't really final, but since I haven't gotten a plane ticket, it looks as if I'm leaning toward driving. I started leaning that way as we were discussing motels and stuff. It was sounding more and more like a car kind of place. I'm thinking about not going to Williamsburg in June, thus meaning I won't be tired of driving. It would help quite a bit if Syracuse would move down to the bottom of NY instead of sitting way up there so high. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 15:12:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38KC40m030683 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:12:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:12:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DBF30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:07:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:07:17 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38K7GHR011303 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:07:16 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 92550388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:07:16 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050408130643.00b6fdc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:07:14 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: FingerFest In-Reply-To: <4256D814.9010907@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050408120816.00bab0f8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050408120816.00bab0f8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Agoing to Williamsburg in June, thus meaning I won't be tired of >driving. It would help quite a bit if Syracuse would move down to the >bottom of NY instead of sitting way up there so high. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Then it would be too far for us to go to Niagara Falls. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 15:12:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38KC30m030681 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:12:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:12:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DBEAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:52:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 50578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:52:02 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38Jq2mM008351 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:52:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1050780wri for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.53 with SMTP id n53mr1674912wrn; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:52:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KQIDxjbg+vc0q/5LzEsquQDuRNHW8nnUWcSO1ihRnS4nvEHInsrnXoliXVpmOzMEQcU2M/Frzo26b9mt3cMXh5yXMT4nQGPwQbOiQmm0OvSJtjIxzZ8/XNBVudB6KgxZ/fhWlJZDyuV3gPXAgIJXc7jL2bTJU/IvCrnCBQeTr2M= Message-ID: <83db447a0504081252421f6ee5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:52:01 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more on Pope names In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j38KC30m030681 On Apr 8, 2005 2:41 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Hilarius II might actually be an appropriate choice. Hilarius (I) > followed Leo the Great > > "Hilarius succeeded a very popular and very active pope - not an easy > task, but Hilarius had worked closely with Leo and made an effort to > model his own papacy after that of his mentor." But then, think of the slogan: Get your kicks from Sixtiius VI From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 18:09:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38N930m015143 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:09:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:09:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DC305@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:09:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:09:02 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38N92Uj001136 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:09:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.172]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050408230902.ZBLU1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:09:02 -0400 Message-ID: <42570F0B.3060703@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:08:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FingerFest References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050408120816.00bab0f8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050408120816.00bab0f8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050408130643.00b6fdc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050408130643.00b6fdc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Then it would be too far for us to go to Niagara Falls. Since you and Larry are , I will therefore allow Syracuse to stay where it is. I was on the verge of lobbying for it to be moved south by an inch or so (on my map). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 18:16:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38NGh0m015765 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:16:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:16:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF6813@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:16:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:16:42 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j38N6fiu000959 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:06:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 68100 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Apr 2005 23:06:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:40 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pope names Message-ID: <20050408230640.GA67404@words-l.org> References: <200504081810.j38IARWw021542@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504081810.j38IARWw021542@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 02:10:27PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:01:08 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >huh? > > > >BrP > > > >>>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/8/2005 1:42:33 PM >>> > > > >Are you trying to hook a "column" in some periodical? > > Yes. Do you have one in mind? God no, I put them out of my mind. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 18:17:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38NH00m015811 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:17:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:17:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DC320@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:16:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:17:00 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j38N6wSG000975 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:06:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 68200 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Apr 2005 23:06:58 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:06:58 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pope names Message-ID: <20050408230658.GB67404@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Huh? On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 02:13:08PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > well... > > > >>> cwv@GWI.NET 4/8/2005 2:03:30 PM >>> > At 01:06 PM 4/8/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >Am I right in thinking that "the first" is only in retrospect - like > you > >don't get to be Sr. until there's a Jr.? I don't remember with JP1 - > >was he just JP until Wojtyla picked JP2? > > However, if the successful candidate can really choose... > > cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 18:52:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j38Nps0m018617 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:51:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:52:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DC543@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:51:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:51:53 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38NfqBI003961 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:41:52 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j38Nfm54016850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:41:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:41:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: more re presents Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But my neighbor cats like me well enough to leave me presents. > > Karen > --- > > I'll bet your presents are not as large as the ones Maria gives me! > Nor as smelly. But I'm surprised that Maria escapes and brings them to your doorstep. --- One wonderful thing about horses is that they are vegetarians, hence do not offer smelly presents. The presents smell only after get into them. And Maria does not have to in order to offer gifts; in fact, she could not escape, since she is not incarcerated. Also, I have many doorsteps. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 19:24:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j390O90m021717 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:24:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 19:24:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DC551@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:00:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 70000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:00:17 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3900Hae005094 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:00:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1097055wri for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.73 with SMTP id x73mr226332wrx; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:00:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=cz6oV4A4i8GNlbSwD+ITktQI1lp9/4WmQSSxDf0zCxQb045TgtOCqdNcDY04vrhlgOxigrtWkz4rRP33KTwZof1yVt6pT1IpzbYA5KHmc6AR45yNau/wp5FlXxytX9JhEEwArZjsf9D9CaJNsrLwExtb4vWyqDDzHAjDE2QaoJw= Message-ID: <83db447a050408170058510d5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:00:17 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: DST and all that Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j390O90m021717 For the first time since DST started this spring, it was worth it. The day, starting rather chilly, warmed rapidly into the mid to high 50s (F). After the past couple of days of clouds and intermittent rain showers, the sky was clear; this evening, the contrails of the transAtlantic flights were sharply visible. Almost all of the snow is now gone. Even on Cadillac, the patches of ice on the sheltered northeastern slopes have markedly dwindled. ANP has temporarily closed the carriage roads---to protect them during the period of thaw. The peregrine falcons are nesting again at the three major spots, including Precipice and Jordan Cliffs. This year, the park is also closing several islands that are used as nesting sites for eagles and sea birds. The park officially will open next Friday (i.e., the Loop Road and presumably the road to Cadillac Summit, as well as most of the toilet facilities) and stay open until 1 December (weather permitting on both dates). No longer will the park simply play the weather. There now is a timetable, along with reduced interpretive, and other, services---all signs of the administration's continuing committment to Halliburton. It was nice to be able to grill tonight's chicken breasts without having to depend on the deck lights---and to enjoy the late afternoon light. Xerxes took advantage of the longer afternoon by making a last ramble around our place and the lot next door. Even after dinner, I was able to sip the last of my dinner wine on the deck, in the rapidly cooling air, watching the light fade among the trees on the horizon. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 21:55:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j392tD0m002135 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 21:55:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:55:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF6B8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 22:55:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 22:55:12 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j392t9aM016866 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 22:55:09 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EF6B99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 22:55:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200504090255.j392t9aM016866@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 22:55:09 -0400 From: John Williams Subject: No one has done this yet? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Listed below are the 10 winners of this year's Bulwer-Lytton Contest, aka the "Dark and Stormy Night Contest" run by the English Department of San Jose State University,wherein one writes only the first line of a bad novel: 10. "As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he were ever to break wind in the echo chamber, he would never hear the end of it." 9. "Just beyond the Narrows, the river widens." 8. "With a curvaceous figure that Venus would have envied, a tanned, unblemished oval face framed with lustrous thick brown hair, deep azure- blue eyes fringed with long black lashes, perfect teeth that vied for competition, and a small straight nose, Marilee had a beauty that defied description." 7. "Andre, a simple peasant, had only one thing on his mind as he crept along the East wall: 'Andre creep... Andre creep... Andre creep.'" 6. "Stanislaus Smedley, a man always on the cutting edge of narcissism, was about to give his body and soul to a back alley sex-change surgeon to become the woman he loved." 5. "Although Sarah had an abnormal fear of mice, it did not keep her from eeking out a living at a local pet store." 4. "Stanley looked quite bored and somewhat detached, but then, penguins often do." 3. "Like an over-ripe beefsteak tomato rimmed with cottage cheese, the corpulent remains of Santa Claus lay dead on the hotel floor." 2. "Mike Hardware was the kind of private eye who didn't know the meaning of the word 'fear'; a man who could laugh in the face of danger and spit in the eye of death -- in short, a moron with suicidal tendencies." AND THE WINNER IS..... 1. "The sun oozed over the horizon, shoved aside darkness, crept along the greensward, and, with sickly fingers, pushed through the castle window, revealing the pillaged princess, hand at throat, crown asunder, gaping in frenzied horror at the sated, sodden amphibian lying beside her, disbelieving the magnitude of the frog's deception, screaming madly, 'You lied!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 8 23:36:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j394Zm0m011459 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 23:35:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 23:36:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DCA2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 0:35:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 00:35:11 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j394IkBk025164 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 00:18:47 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF21BE8C5 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 21:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200504090255.j392t9aM016866@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Jesus died so that we would know when to plant tomatoes X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 21:18:34 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: No one has done this yet? Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:55 PM -0700 4/8/05, John Williams wrote: >Listed below are the 10 winners of this year's Bulwer-Lytton Contest, >aka the "Dark and Stormy Night Contest" run by the English Department >of San Jose State University,wherein one writes only the first line of a >bad novel: John, me bucko, as every Bulwer-Lytton aficionado knows, the official deadline for each year's contest is April 15 - "a date that Americans associate with painful submissions and making up bad stories." If you have a list of the winners of 2005's contest, you should have no problem making a killing on sports betting for the rest of this year. But these are genuine Bulwer-Lytton winners. It's just that they're from various _Dark and Stormy Night_ books published between 1984 and 1996. (Check and you'll find some of them.) Ken "Call me Mikkleson" Milller John Lyly School of Euphuism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 00:25:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j395PN0m016617 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 00:25:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 00:25:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DCAEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 1:25:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 88361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 01:25:22 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j395PM6x030976 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 01:25:22 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 311D32FB50705 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 00:25:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004b01c53cc4$939354d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Sorry Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 00:25:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j395PN0m016617 I have just deleted all your mail from the past two weeks or so. I have been travelling . . . to Texas and back . . and just didn't keep up. I assume you said nothing important. If you did, please let me know. - D. M. From debteraser@myeinfomail.net Sat Apr 9 01:24:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from myeinfomail.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j396OP0n022922 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 01:24:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200504090624.j396OP0n022922@gtoal.com> Received: from 209.203.195.35 ([209.203.195.35]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 01:24:30 CDT From: "DebtEraser" Subject: Don't consolidate debt--Eliminate It! To: words-l@gtoal.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: debteraser@myeinfomail.net Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 01:20:53 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 06:37:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Bbo0m028267 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:37:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:37:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF7795@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 7:37:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:37:49 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39BbnmC012717 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:37:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.126]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409113748.UDCC2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:37:48 -0400 Message-ID: <4257BE89.5060401@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:37:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No one has done this yet? References: <200504090255.j392t9aM016866@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504090255.j392t9aM016866@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I dunno. I might be interested in reading further about Andre, the simple peasant, or Stanley, the penguin. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 06:41:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Bfk0m028595 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:41:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:41:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD12B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 7:41:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:41:46 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39Bfj1b012932 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:41:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.126]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409114145.UEDA2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:41:45 -0400 Message-ID: <4257BF76.9040805@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:41:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sorry References: <004b01c53cc4$939354d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <004b01c53cc4$939354d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >I have just deleted all your mail from the >past two weeks or so. I have been travelling >. . . to Texas and back . . and just didn't keep >up. I assume you said nothing important. >If you did, please let me know. > > I can't remember that whole time period, but I can remember some of the important things you've missed in the past few days: BrP is thinking about becoming Pope Hilarious II, Maria Dumas is a vegetarian, Bonniemae sleeps until 8 a.m., Clyde cooked out last night while there was still a bit of day left, Vikings are wanted in Norway, Rupert may be in a future Amazing Race. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 06:46:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39BkL0m029059 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:46:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:46:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF77AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 7:46:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:46:11 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39BkBlo013101 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:46:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.126]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409114610.UFJI2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:46:10 -0400 Message-ID: <4257C080.1010606@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:46:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Quiz Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Without doing research: What was "the worst maritime disaster in U.S. history"? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 06:50:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39BoR0m029471 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:50:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:50:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF77F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 7:50:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:50:27 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39BoQiR013355 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:50:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.126]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409115026.UGTS2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:50:26 -0400 Message-ID: <4257C17F.9050700@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:50:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Weird Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why would anybody, or at least anybody other than extreme fans of the team, want to watch a spring practice football game involving just one team? ESPN is showing the MSU spring practice game today: http://tinyurl.com/49ntu -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 07:12:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39CBx0m032221 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:12:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 07:12:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD214@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 8:01:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:01:59 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39C1wjr013793 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:01:59 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j39C1rDu015767 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:01:58 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:01:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question In-Reply-To: <4257C080.1010606@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <4257C080.1010606@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Without doing research: > > What was "the worst maritime disaster in U.S. history"? Just from memory, then: Presumably the Titanic doesn't count, because it was a British ship in international waters. So probably it was the burning and sinking of that boat on Lake Michigan at Chicago around the turn of the century. Hundreds died. Sorry, I can't remember the name of the vessel or the year. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 07:14:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39CE50m032385 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:14:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 07:14:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD06C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 8:14:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:14:05 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39CE5Kn014884 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:14:05 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF7846@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 8:14:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200504091214.j39CE5Kn014884@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:14:05 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Quiz Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:01:53 -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Without doing research: >> >> What was "the worst maritime disaster in U.S. history"? > >Just from memory, then: > >Presumably the Titanic doesn't count, because it was a British ship in >international waters. > >So probably it was the burning and sinking of that boat on Lake Michigan >at Chicago around the turn of the century. Hundreds died. > >Sorry, I can't remember the name of the vessel or the year. This isn't the Edmund Fitzgerald on Huron? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 07:15:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39CFR0m032586 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:15:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 07:15:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD071@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 8:15:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:15:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39CFQNd015004 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:15:26 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF780F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 8:15:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200504091215.j39CFQNd015004@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:15:26 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Quiz Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:01:53 -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Without doing research: >> >> What was "the worst maritime disaster in U.S. history"? > >Just from memory, then: > >Presumably the Titanic doesn't count, because it was a British ship in >international waters. > >So probably it was the burning and sinking of that boat on Lake Michigan >at Chicago around the turn of the century. Hundreds died. > >Sorry, I can't remember the name of the vessel or the year. > > Does wartime sinking count? Pearl Harbor or some WWII battle? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 07:34:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39CY10m002481 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 07:34:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 07:34:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD187@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 8:24:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:24:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39CO13o015697 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:24:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so208937wri for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.34.64 with SMTP id h64mr2558995wrh; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 05:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 05:24:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bnO+j3Xo1Ce9lk5q0EONT4IwHnJyC77aglGt2D7TKHOuh6NLI9CRDk+L3sOjkq44mo7uKgEiwUul1e3haAavRwwQ3jzMRkdN0B4tFfbOZ6vo20HU5gIqOys/K0M9z0C5d+9GfLU9EVIpZXBEYgDfAVLzDexbJtrDI5OzHFMghZg= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:24:00 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question In-Reply-To: <4257C080.1010606@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4257C080.1010606@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39CY10m002481 > > Without doing research: > > What was "the worst maritime disaster in U.S. history"? > -- Natalie In Canadian history, it would be the ship that blew up in the Halifax, Nova Scotia harbor. In American history, and given your interests, it's probably some obscure Civil War thing. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:10:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DAL0m007180 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:10:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:10:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF78C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:10:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:10:21 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DALiM020737 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:10:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1178201wri for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.8 with SMTP id k8mr713156wrk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:10:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NRrzrBf9+0lcy6/Zw/AP5Z0yF9QWd+syFnKCYTiR4Hx1Ji8R6k1mkNZS5c8yL9S2UMBn3kAzjwIonHmiG1UXjylx+uxT2ZljxTZeNxKWAH8ppFB3UOxy9Q9FudPPJgdTj+I7aXMjjzw5bm326aJ3i8zt/CeQx4nmMU//FabEFyY= Message-ID: <83db447a050409061020b91b59@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:10:20 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4257C080.1010606@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39DAL0m007180 On Apr 9, 2005 8:01 AM, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Without doing research: > > > > What was "the worst maritime disaster in U.S. history"? > > Just from memory, then: > > So probably it was the burning and sinking of that boat on Lake Michigan > at Chicago around the turn of the century. Hundreds died. > > Sorry, I can't remember the name of the vessel or the year. My memory is no better than yours; I dimly recall a freighter filled with ammonium nitrate blowing up in a Texas harbor---late 40s or early 50s. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:15:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DF90m007752 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:15:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:15:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD1E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:05:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:05:08 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39D58or020269 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:05:08 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so1262557wri for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.33 with SMTP id x33mr528138wrx; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:05:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MJ7l5xLapAMNNMyTGfZoLZ+jJSjaNr/MypeC7b6x0+HS5ZHRGLjVNlIQ1dgk6DATuQPCLKCqrB/cpT/yMUMPbhRYkjOp6ABcaee8rWzMsHojnWg5QN+y24QQ1P4BlSz5/X+p2nap3efAsvkgADO5M0vWgfF8kkuMtiwzqU6HkQg= Message-ID: <83db447a05040906054c798557@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:05:08 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <4257C17F.9050700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4257C17F.9050700@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39DF90m007752 On Apr 9, 2005 7:50 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Why would anybody, or at least anybody other than extreme fans of the > team, want to watch a spring practice football game involving just one > team? It's a fairly common thing in Jesus-land. Tennessee nearly (maybe does, now) fills the stadium for their spring game. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:24:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DO00m008838 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:24:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:24:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD205@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:23:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:23:59 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DNxIQ022391 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:23:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409132359.ERCK2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:23:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4257D76C.7090809@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:23:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question References: <4257C080.1010606@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >> What was "the worst maritime disaster in U.S. history"? > > Just from memory, then: > > Presumably the Titanic doesn't count, because it was a British ship in > international waters. No, I think the Titanic does count. It's just not the answer (assuming the correctness of the newspaper story I read, of course). > So probably it was the burning and sinking of that boat on Lake Michigan > at Chicago around the turn of the century. Hundreds died. Nope. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:24:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DOr0m009014 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:24:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:24:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD2C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:24:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:24:53 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DOqd9022512 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:24:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409132452.ERHZ2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:24:52 -0400 Message-ID: <4257D7A1.7030307@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:24:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question References: <200504091214.j39CE5Kn014884@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504091214.j39CE5Kn014884@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >This isn't the Edmund Fitzgerald on Huron? > > Remind me to include Gordon Lightfoot in my cd collection for the drive to Syracuse. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:26:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DQO0m009244 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:26:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:26:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD106@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:26:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:26:24 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DQO1w022662 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:26:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409132623.ERRQ2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:26:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4257D7FC.4060900@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:26:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question References: <200504091215.j39CFQNd015004@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504091215.j39CFQNd015004@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Does wartime sinking count? Pearl Harbor or some WWII battle? > > Wartime counts, I think. At least I know that immediately post-war does. Hints: 1865, yankee POWs released and returning home. Reminder of earlier disclaimer: This assumes the newspaper story is correct. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:27:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DRk0m009449 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:27:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:27:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD107@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:27:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:27:46 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DRk1d022749 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:27:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409132746.ESAL2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:27:46 -0400 Message-ID: <4257D84E.80207@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:27:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question References: <4257C080.1010606@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >In American history, and given your interests, it's probably some obscure >Civil War thing. > > You're getting close. (Whose interests? Mine? That's not really relevant. If somebody had asked me this question, my answer would've been The Titanic.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:40:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DeX0m011119 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:40:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:40:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD2D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:33:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:33:10 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DXASb023192 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:33:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409133310.ETNE2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:33:10 -0400 Message-ID: <4257D993.60006@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:33:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: THE QUIZ ANSWER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Sultana, 27 April 1865, Mississippi River. http://tinyurl.com/58uf5 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:40:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DeX0m011120 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:40:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:40:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD10D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:30:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:30:32 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DUWJn022965 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:30:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.198]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409133032.ESSW2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:30:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4257D8F5.1030902@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:30:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <4257C17F.9050700@maynor.net> <83db447a05040906054c798557@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05040906054c798557@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >>Why would anybody, or at least anybody other than extreme fans of the >>team, want to watch a spring practice football game involving just one >>team? >> >> > > It's a fairly common thing in Jesus-land. Tennessee nearly (maybe does, >now) fills the stadium for their spring game. > > Oh, I know that spring games are heavily attended -- but by the local/regional fans. I guess I shouldn't have used the wording "extreme fans." What I was finding weird was the thought that a national tv audience would care. Like maybe the Starkville First Methodist Church's little local cable channel or something. But ESPN? (The story about it did point out that this scheduling was the result of a cancelation of whatever it was that ESPN had scheduled, but I still would've thought they'd find something of more national appeal.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:44:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DiV0m011527 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:44:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:44:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD2E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:44:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:44:31 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DiVOJ024140 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:44:31 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 83CFE75AD06A5 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:44:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001c01c53d0a$4e92ad90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Someone had to say it Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:44:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39DiV0m011527 Somewhere in the past few days I saw a cartoon. It showed Johnny Cochran at the gates of heaven. He was touching his halo and saying "If it fits, you must admit." - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:44:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DiZ0m011531 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:44:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:44:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD226@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:44:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:44:34 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DYY9a023332 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:34:34 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j39DYTQk014247 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:34:30 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:34:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Fredericksburg no, Rossini yes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is the weekend that I am skipping SECOL and also decided not to attend my 50th hs reunion in Fredericksburg, TX. No, I did not attend hs in F-burg, but our organizer lives there. I have been to one hs reunion - and would not have gone if it had been in Beaumont, which I always hated. It was just a matter of time/money. Our semester ends on April 27, and I am drowning in paper. It's too bad - I know I would have enjoyed it, and I really like F-burg. But, I will take time to attend the Rossini Festival/street fair downtown (for the first time) and catch a couple of KOC productions - The Marriage Bill & Roman Fever - I have in the past always been out of town the weekend of the Festival. The weather is perfect, of course. Should be fun. (Natalie, this is thanks to Lida's having had the foresight to purchase TWO tickets to the Festival. Since I am normally out of town for the event, I stopped buying a KOC season ticket some years ago.) (Maria Dumas will be giving presents to another person this morning.) Have a good day, all! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:49:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39DnF0m012056 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:49:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:49:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD128@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:49:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:49:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DnEa3024494 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:49:14 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so2252086wri for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.34.64 with SMTP id h64mr2600661wrh; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:49:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XIEfPU5jIsgXIbbJZi6N79/F0Vh9TVJ43dAu6lJUbQdUuRMFRiwC3YHPpCz8gFLUsg/AH5sluW16AK6utGQ6YzeYG6dIAWTrdjkfVRpLTuGfrxxPdOAvbcUxiBUjQfMpkvCcNov6DuXjixSBxuee2fOXy3x/ajt1Eg6FDbO3XBs= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:49:14 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question In-Reply-To: <4257D84E.80207@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4257C080.1010606@maynor.net> <4257D84E.80207@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39DnF0m012056 > > You're getting close. (Whose interests? Mine? That's not really > relevant. If somebody had asked me this question, my answer would've > been The Titanic.) -- Natalie Your interests in the sense of "what might Natalie be mucking about in that she would have discovered the worst maritime tragedy." -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:52:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Dq50m012339 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:52:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:52:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD12E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:52:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:52:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39Dq4X2024750 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:52:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1182868wri for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.8 with SMTP id k8mr731207wrk; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:52:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b2OgC3XS4fN666V/cm4GK++c+38uBzLzCR240fYaDBEPRUIXXqI+zE/RwetM551ejsyggn9alBUuMBH7FykBwf5fBApjQvJELfHF8aY8PeG8q0+Eeq74IxOyPQRU6ZfJD5AvcFGwNQI/yJCuTrUBrDVHdmVqsgtD0z0yZSXJtoo= Message-ID: <83db447a05040906524636519e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:52:04 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <4257D8F5.1030902@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4257C17F.9050700@maynor.net> <83db447a05040906054c798557@mail.gmail.com> <4257D8F5.1030902@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39Dq50m012339 On Apr 9, 2005 9:30 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > (The story about it did point out that this scheduling was the result of a > cancelation of > whatever it was that ESPN had scheduled, but I still would've thought > they'd find something of more national appeal.) The hole in their scheduling occurred when the NHL season was cancelled. This time of year there isn't that much of "national" interest happening in sports on Saturday afternoon. Moreover, Croom still is a prominent story. My guess is that you will see more of this sort of thing, now that ESPN has added another channel (ESPNU), which will add more sub-national events and provide more opportunities for things to get bumped up to the two major ESPN channels. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 08:53:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Dra0m012490 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:53:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:53:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD2F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 9:53:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:53:36 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39DralS024825 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:53:36 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so346861wra for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.55.61 with SMTP id d61mr853955wra; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:53:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hjd9+GOnYlZysLFaZhGiu45CSd4uLb0be9BhgSwstfAAXm7B9ncyJV2uNZevi7qkXdieFXLTvynrTVJqCoGaeiwiV/h4GXL4xXp+EteCd1Eka7sXY0e+F6WzNq7nW41HlzBfQ7Ed+egRnXNxZ3T9EHhZLi6LO8optL/a3GHbOE0= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:53:35 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sorry In-Reply-To: <4257BF76.9040805@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <004b01c53cc4$939354d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4257BF76.9040805@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39Dra0m012490 > > ... Bonniemae sleeps until 8 a.m., ... > -- Natalie What do you do, Natalie, between whenever you get up and 8 a.m.? I would get up earlier if I could think of something to do. Unlike you, I do not find an entire array of interesting things to do with my daily life. I guess I could do, between 6 and 8, what I do between 8 and 10. But then what would I do between 8 and 10? Unlike you, I do get bored. But I would rather be occasionally bored than lead a hectic life of running from one thing to another, as many people seem to do these days. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 09:07:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39E7A0m014321 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:07:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 09:07:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD27A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:07:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:07:09 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39E79SB025850 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:07:09 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j39E79Lb016730 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:07:09 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j39E5FCA024560 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:05:16 -0400 Message-ID: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: 'Anybody... Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:05:16 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ... read Freakonomics? 'Comments? 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 09:45:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Ejq0m018677 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:45:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 09:45:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD1B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:45:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:45:51 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39EZp1S027475 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:35:51 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j39EZkHv018210 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:35:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:35:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: getting up early Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For much of my early life, I stayed up late and got up late - just in time to get to class, when I was still a student. A few years ago, I realized that my life would be better if I lived as a morning person, so I began changing my schedule. I think the best arrangement is that of the farmers - get up when the sun rises. I got up just before 4 a.m. yesterday, because I wanted to watch the funeral service live. It is amazing how well my day went (and my newspapers had arrived by then!). But I think 4 is too early for me as a rule. I am aiming at 5-5:30 now. I want to move my exercise to early morning (the Y is open by about 5 during the week), for one thing, and perhaps manage to read my 3 newspapers in the a.m. instead of late in the day. That would leave more time for socializing later (though exercise at the Y is often quite social). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 11:32:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39GW30m030198 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:32:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:32:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD468@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:32:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:31:59 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39GVwnM002085 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:31:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.110]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409163158.YRJW2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:31:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4258037B.5050908@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:31:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question References: <4257C080.1010606@maynor.net> <4257D84E.80207@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>You're getting close. (Whose interests? Mine? That's not really >>relevant. If somebody had asked me this question, my answer would've >>been The Titanic.) -- Natalie >> >> > > Your interests in the sense of "what might Natalie be mucking about in >that she would have discovered the worst maritime tragedy." > > Actually, all I was mucking about in was the headlines of today's Clarion-Ledger. When I saw one about a mural and an 1865 "tragedy," I clicked on it to find out what mural and what tragedy. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 11:43:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39GhE0m031406 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:43:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:43:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD3DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:43:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:43:13 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39GhDuc003316 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:43:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.110]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409164313.LPSI2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:43:13 -0400 Message-ID: <4258061D.8030507@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:43:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sorry References: <004b01c53cc4$939354d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4257BF76.9040805@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > What do you do, Natalie, between whenever you get up and 8 a.m.? > My usual routine is to go into the kitchen and start the coffee, then turn on the computer, at which I sit and drink a couple of cups of coffee while reading/writing e-mail and then reading online newspapers and checking the weather forecast. Then I eat breakfast. Then I take a bath or shower and get dressed. I'm through with all that long before 8. > But I would rather be >occasionally bored than lead a hectic life of running from one thing to >another, as many people seem to do these days. > > I definitely do not like hecticity in my life. I could never live a life like Rita C's. (I'll be glad when she returns to us.) Even though my life is pretty simple, I never find enough hours in a day to do everything I want to do. I guess today isn't a good example, since a gorgeous April Saturday is not a typical day, but today my mind is spinning with all the possibilities of things to do. I went earlier this morning to the Belhaven Market to check it out. Then I went and took a picture of the cemetery I mentioned that has a big Ascher marker -- havn't done anything with the picture yet -- it's still in the camera. Then I stopped very briefly at an herb/flower sale but didn't buy anything since I have a problem with lack of sunlight for growing things. Oh -- I forgot -- between the Belhaven market and the cemetery picture I went by a used/rare bookstore and enjoyed talking to the proprietor and a customer. Now I'm trying to figure out what to do about this afternoon. There's a Democratic Party Grassroots Block Party on the patio of a blues club downtown at 2, and there's a Volunteer Fair in a downtown park -- apparently where various non-profit organizations have tables with information for possible volunteers. I would like to go to both of those things, but I also need to make food to take to a church potluck tomorrow -- and what I'm making takes a bit of time since it involves cooking wild rice for a good while. I'm beginning to think I should stay here and do that and maybe turn on the electric teevee to see Croom. And I've got a huge pile of unread books and magazines that I want to get into. Life offers too many choices! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 11:45:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39GjG0m031684 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:45:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:45:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD2E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:45:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:45:16 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39GjFgO003545 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:45:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.110]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409164515.LQEQ2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:45:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42580698.5050905@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:45:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> In-Reply-To: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > ... read Freakonomics? > > 'Comments? How about Friedman's _The World Is Flat_? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 11:48:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Glx0m031906 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:48:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:48:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD3ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:47:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:47:58 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39GlwI4003760 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:47:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.110]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409164758.LQUG2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:47:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4258073A.8080103@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:47:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: getting up early References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I got up just before 4 a.m. yesterday, because I wanted to watch the >funeral service live. It is amazing how well my day went (and my >newspapers had arrived by then!). But I think 4 is too early for me as a >rule. I am aiming at 5-5:30 now. > That's about when I usually get up -- 5-5:30. Sometimes I get up earlier than that, but I have a rule that I will not allow myself to get up before 4 (except in odd cases like an early plane to catch or whatever). >I want to move my exercise to early >morning (the Y is open by about 5 during the week), for one thing, and > > I have no interest in exercising in the early a.m. That's mainly because I love the way I feel in the early a.m. and don't want to mess with that good feeling. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 12:13:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39HDf0m001869 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:13:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:13:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD4D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:03:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:03:41 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39H3e4t004812 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:03:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.110]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409170340.CTAX2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:03:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:03:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Another Quiz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How many lepers are there in the US? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 12:14:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39HEK0m001902 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:14:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:14:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD4F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:14:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:14:20 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39HEJRh006023 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:14:20 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 206FCA4F51737 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:14:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c53d27$9f49f410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Another Quiz Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:14:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: Another Quiz > How many lepers are there in the US? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Can you tell a leper by his spots? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 12:29:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39HTP0m003286 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:29:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:29:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD513@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:29:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:29:25 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39HTOgk007231 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:29:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.110]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409172924.PQWK4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:29:24 -0400 Message-ID: <425810F1.3080601@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:29:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <000601c53d27$9f49f410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000601c53d27$9f49f410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >> How many lepers are there in the US? > > Can you tell a leper by his spots? When I first heard the question on the radio today, I thought he said leopards. But when he started apologizing to any lepers who might be listening, saying that this wasn't about lepers but was about statistics, or something like that, I decided that he wasn't talking to leopards. The question was easier when asked on the radio since the answer was multiple choice, with three choices given. But since Wordslers are more knowledgeable than ordinary radio-show participants, I figured it should be asked without answers suggested. Whoever gets closest to the right answer (without doing research or without having heard Michael Feldman this morning) wins. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 12:37:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Hbj0m004087 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:37:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:37:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD46A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:37:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:37:45 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39HbiQ7007757 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:37:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.110]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409173744.PTRK4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:37:44 -0400 Message-ID: <425812E5.6070004@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:37:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Hey, Marie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The big Ascher marker is visible to the left in this picture: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=57969 I did take a picture of one of the Ascher graves, but it mainly showed my shadow. The sun was being ornery. Thus, I won't be submitting that picture to Find-a-Grave. The grave was that of Joseph Ascher, b.Alsace, 22 May 1855, d. Jackson, 15 December 1932. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 12:37:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Hbq0m004108 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:37:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:37:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD36A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:37:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:37:51 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j39HRpJL007060 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:27:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 18443 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Apr 2005 17:27:50 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:27:50 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050409172750.GA13336@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:05:16AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ... read Freakonomics? > > 'Comments? > > 'Alan 'Nope. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 12:48:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39HmO0m004796 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:48:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:48:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD54C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:48:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:48:24 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39HmOW8008721 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:48:24 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:48:24 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:47:58 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Another Quiz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU None - because now it's called Hansen's Disease (or is it Hanson's?) BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 04/09/05 1:03 PM >>> How many lepers are there in the US? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 12:50:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39HoM0m004997 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:50:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:50:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD396@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:50:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:50:22 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39HoLsp008948 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:50:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.110]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409175021.DEZP2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: <425815DA.3010203@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:50:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >None - because now it's called Hansen's Disease (or is it Hanson's?) > > Wrong -- or at least according to my car radio this morning. I mean "none" is wrong -- not the because clause. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 12:53:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Hr60m005209 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:53:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:53:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD55F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:53:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:53:05 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39Hr51b009069 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:53:05 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j39Hr4Ld019019 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:53:05 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j39HpBCA026662 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:51:13 -0400 Message-ID: <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42580698.5050905@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:51:12 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Alan Wild wrote: > >> ... read Freakonomics? >> >> 'Comments? > > How about Friedman's _The World Is Flat_? No... but The Lexus and the Olive Tree was insightful. Have you been watching the geo-political moves with China? I think Taiwan is going to be made a scapegoat for China's near bankrupt economy... and speaking of collapsing economies, Japan isn't in great shape either. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 13:12:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39IC70m008758 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:12:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:12:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD4B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:02:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:02:06 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39I26wW009615 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:02:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.110]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409180206.HPEO2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:02:06 -0400 Message-ID: <4258189A.8040600@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:02:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Not ESPN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just double-checked the newspaper and saw that it said ESPN2, not ESPN. But, otoh, the reason I checked was that I just went in and turned on my electric teevee and didn't see it listed at all -- on any ESPN. Odd. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 13:15:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39IF40m009056 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:15:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:15:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD3F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:15:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:15:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39IF3Hp010463 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:15:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1300607wri for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.34.64 with SMTP id h64mr2743726wrh; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:15:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=clrMzMzuA9Epo7sV6Fuulqkccg4pvQyWrHOITud2qTJxZKQjHuXzXytje+y7HUDlHlYt7h16WUaJP5ki9WaT3PwH7o7zTQMs1vYaazqIa27bCb3coGXNvjpQLT0ZR87TYIKMrJK4D1mYyv3vQNhqmRoKo6/Oov4i83GM0dh2EQM= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:15:03 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sorry In-Reply-To: <4258061D.8030507@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <004b01c53cc4$939354d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4257BF76.9040805@maynor.net> <4258061D.8030507@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39IF40m009056 > > My usual routine is to go into the kitchen and start the coffee, then > turn on the computer, at which I sit and drink a couple of cups of > coffee while reading/writing e-mail and then reading online newspapers > and checking the weather forecast. I do all that in about 30 minutes. Then I eat breakfast. Then I take a > bath or shower and get dressed. I'm through with all that long before 8. I don't eat breakfast and I don't shower every day. this morning to the Belhaven Market to check it out. Then I went and > took a picture of the cemetery I mentioned that has a big Ascher marker > -- havn't done anything with the picture yet -- it's still in the > camera. Then I stopped very briefly at an herb/flower sale but didn't > buy anything since I have a problem with lack of sunlight for growing > things. Oh -- I forgot -- between the Belhaven market and the cemetery > picture I went by a used/rare bookstore and enjoyed talking to the > proprietor and a customer. Now I'm trying to figure out what to do > about this afternoon. There's a Democratic Party Grassroots Block Party > on the patio of a blues club downtown at 2, and there's a Volunteer Fair > in a downtown park -- apparently where various non-profit organizations > have tables with information for possible volunteers. -- Natalie I have no desire to do any of those things. Nor do I want to get involved in churchy things. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 13:24:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39IOY0m009722 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:24:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:24:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD40C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:24:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:24:33 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j39IEW1K010395 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:14:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 44701 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Apr 2005 18:14:32 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:14:32 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050409181432.GA42894@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42580698.5050905@maynor.net> <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 01:51:12PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > No... but The Lexus and the Olive Tree was insightful. > > Have you been watching the geo-political moves with China? I think Taiwan > is going to be made a scapegoat for China's near bankrupt economy... and > speaking of collapsing economies, Japan isn't in great shape either. 'Makes you feel so 'good! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 13:38:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Ico0m010994 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:38:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:38:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD5F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:38:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:38:50 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39IcoiP012081 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:38:50 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-193.gwi.net [216.195.163.193]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j39Ich7H033232; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:38:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050409143620.01c11c48@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 14:36:57 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:03 PM 4/9/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >How many lepers are there in the US? Moral, or otherwise? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 14:00:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39J0E0m013268 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:00:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 14:00:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD622@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:00:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:00:13 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39J0DgD013804 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:00:13 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1520152rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.150.39 with SMTP id x39mr2502597rnd; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:00:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nMePpV4tEkN+lsqVWjEicvP/0SXUyZxfS6ZhimBMTmsJP0332mtK8GTSBCN10ZwD32Qi1UiHDRyVJRuM1CF4wpr3QOGT9w6R57sAoCm9/14eNec1L8kVPVV94CWETlXtgIm6NIt5FHFk3jiLjUtZe/J8yTb+ut+UDi/1/Rcu0fI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050409120020ba3272@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:00:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42580698.5050905@maynor.net> <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39J0E0m013268 On Apr 9, 2005 12:51 PM, Alan Wild wrote: > > No... but The Lexus and the Olive Tree was insightful. > Oh. God. Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 14:05:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39J5Z0m013953 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:05:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 14:05:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD56B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:05:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:05:35 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39J5YKa014328 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:05:34 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1520992rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.82.21 with SMTP id f21mr2753632rnb; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:05:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ttGfOSG42NWRa3/gUaYGJmIBljxINc0NTM4m/2lf98HLG2fKRYCl5lK3Le7+mHFnzR47P+Z9Lu6Lt94rEN4K3/ozryo1xPjn+M6ewtAiMUGMslU3Gqeo8+fsylrJg1omI/+TzrJn4CJuhK1Wbi1SftqfCHc57rmJerD58hshO5Y= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705040912055cd81eaf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:05:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I love Texas Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39J5Z0m013953 Amnesty International is having their yearly conference here this week. Next week, the NRA is meeting in Houston--Tom Delay is their keynote speaker. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 14:39:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39JdZ0m016527 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:39:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 14:39:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD679@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:39:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:39:35 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39JdYUP016496 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:39:35 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-193.gwi.net [216.195.163.193]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j39JdU7E036038; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:39:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050409152931.01c08650@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:30:32 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050409120020ba3272@mail.gmail.com> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42580698.5050905@maynor.net> <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a7050409120020ba3272@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:00 PM 4/9/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On Apr 9, 2005 12:51 PM, Alan Wild wrote: > > > > No... but The Lexus and the Olive Tree was insightful. > > > >Oh. God. He probably thinks that Delay is insightful as well... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 15:05:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39K5c0m019179 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:05:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:05:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF7F0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:05:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:05:37 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39K5b77018014 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:05:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409200537.ERHB2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:05:37 -0400 Message-ID: <4258358D.3000300@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:05:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <6.2.0.14.0.20050409143620.01c11c48@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050409143620.01c11c48@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> How many lepers are there in the US? > > Moral, or otherwise? My radio didn't specify. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 15:12:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39KBg0m019752 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:11:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:12:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD6AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:01:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:01:41 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39K1eK9017625 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:01:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409200140.EQDV2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:01:40 -0400 Message-ID: <425834A0.10508@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:01:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Weird Dog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So I went outside after finishing making the rice-apple goup and looked around for Spencer. Saw him. And concluded that he is indeed a strange beast: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/spencertub.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 15:12:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39KBg0m019759 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:11:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:12:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD5F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:05:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:05:07 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39K572c017925 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:05:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409200506.ERDJ2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:05:06 -0400 Message-ID: <4258356F.6010403@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:05:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sorry References: <004b01c53cc4$939354d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4257BF76.9040805@maynor.net> <4258061D.8030507@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > I have no desire to do any of those things. Nor do I want to get involved >in churchy things. > > And that is fine. As it turned out, I ended up not going to either of the things this afternoon that I had thought about going to. I got busy making my rice-apple goup, with ESPN2 on in the distance (the menu said billiards, but it was actually MSU football). I just finished it and went outside and took the picture of Spencer in the tub. And now I think I'm going to take Spencer for a walk. Tis a gorgeous day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 15:12:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39KBg0m019760 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:11:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:12:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD6AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:02:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:02:44 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39K2hWo017692 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:02:43 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 92810893 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:02:42 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050409125421.026a8370@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:02:43 -0700 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: This 'n that Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are you doing anything special tomorrow, Karen? We're off to Santa Rosa to see the kids and Nathaniel. After dinner with them we're going to see Sweet Honey in the Rock in concert, a gift we're taking advantage of. Natalie, do you want to me check out the hotel in San Francisco tomorrow or are you all set either way? We may anyway. After my book club meeting we're going out to lunch. My nephew is home from Iraq! Tracy didn't tell Anthony, their young son, that his daddy was coming home. The photos made me blink back tears. I must be getting old. I've been cleaning out my office at work. I should do the same at home. I'm recycling my life. It seemed I just kept adding to files over the years. Some of that stuff was really old. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 15:12:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39KBg0m019756 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:11:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:12:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD4EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:02:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:02:37 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39K2bBH017676 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:02:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409200237.EQJA2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:02:37 -0400 Message-ID: <425834D9.4030004@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:02:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42580698.5050905@maynor.net> <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> In-Reply-To: <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > Have you been watching the geo-political moves with China? I think > Taiwan > is going to be made a scapegoat for China's near bankrupt economy... and > speaking of collapsing economies, Japan isn't in great shape either. ? None of this fits with what I've been reading. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 15:12:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39KBg0m019757 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:11:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:12:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD6BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:09:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:09:58 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39K9vc6018259 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:09:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409200957.ESKI2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:09:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42583692.8080306@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:09:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: This 'n that References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050409125421.026a8370@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050409125421.026a8370@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Natalie, do you want to me check out the hotel in San Francisco > tomorrow or > are you all set either way? We may anyway. After my book club meeting > we're going out to lunch. I'm set on the hotel, but if you're in the mood to, I think it would be fun to get your impressions of any hotels it's convenient to check out. Why don't y'all see if you can have lunch at Astonia Abbey. On second thought, it's only breakfast and dinner that they serve, I think, and I think you have to be staying there. > I It seemed I just kept adding to files over the > years. Some of that stuff was really old. Oh yes. Btdt. Still have some too-old stuff, but I did finally throw away a few things from the '60s. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 15:16:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39KGb0m020343 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:16:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:16:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD612@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:16:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:16:36 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39KGaop018884 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:16:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409201636.EUPP2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:16:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42583820.5060105@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:16:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: This 'n that References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050409125421.026a8370@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42583692.8080306@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42583692.8080306@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Why don't y'all see if you can have lunch at Astonia Abbey. On second Correction: It's Ansonia, not Astonia. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 15:28:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39KS10m021469 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:28:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:28:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD52F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:28:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:28:00 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39KS0aS019688 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:28:00 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2259402wra for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.55.6 with SMTP id d6mr760112wra; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:27:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LCBZEEwx5wYvMjv9moSf5rxHM4BBcUAdbijhtBJdMNvPA19+QEkw1ggmJKLnyjEc56VlmjMsPvznpc13//zU+8oOKr7r6ZHsrz51jonJTP/jdUZe/UHdupu0hANWBSVE2+x6wlvTnuLOR6aTxEonp3pSnw+BhuaWPydvrFm/QrY= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:27:59 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sorry In-Reply-To: <4258356F.6010403@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <004b01c53cc4$939354d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4257BF76.9040805@maynor.net> <4258061D.8030507@maynor.net> <4258356F.6010403@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39KS10m021469 > > went outside and took the picture of Spencer in the tub. And now I > think I'm going to take Spencer for a walk. Tis a gorgeous day. > -- Natalie Tis a beautiful day here also. Definitely Spring. I did my Tai Chi and Strong Women Strong Bones weight-lifting this morning. Then Clyde and I took about a 90 minute hike in Great Meadow, Sieur du Monts Spring, and The Tarn. Then I went to Shirley's Yarns, off-island, to exchange some left-over yarn for enough yarn to make two baby sweaters. While at Shirley's I told another customer all about the hiking trails in Great Meadow. She asked and she was very grateful for the info and for my enthusiasm. Now the day is over but yet the sun shines brightly. What will I do in Norway where the sun will rise at 1:15 a.m. and set at 10:15 p.m.? Way too many hours in the day. But I'll bet all that changing light will be nice for a photographer. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 15:38:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Kch0m022321 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:38:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:38:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD6F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:28:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:28:40 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39KSeZR019721 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:28:40 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so1531482wri for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.14.71 with SMTP id 71mr764225wrn; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 13:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:28:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FWZvQM+zfbwj/bTAfzVyTIRT062JFrs+kv34PWOmQgxJ0ZTSFL7W01Vz4N2e7gWkaNhPTxcL2HNB4uvGKxx8ZnvZfpBoip8iIyUUuUm5ahHLsExcCheQilA+Tixtq4ZSslzXBU5V44M7fy/17BBGt9ui4n/PH8KQHDSbJNFb4kg= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:28:40 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39Kch0m022321 > > How many lepers are there in the US? > -- Natalie 540 -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 16:13:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39LDE0m025352 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:13:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:13:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD611@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:13:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:13:13 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j39L3C3i022764 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:03:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 56389 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Apr 2005 21:03:12 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:03:12 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz Message-ID: <20050409210312.GA53547@words-l.org> References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 04:28:40PM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > How many lepers are there in the US? > > -- Natalie > > 540 Moral or otherwise? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 17:19:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39MJc0m031109 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:19:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:19:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD8BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:19:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:19:37 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39MJbsa032343 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:19:37 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:19:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:19:25 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Another Quiz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie's radio didn't specify. BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 04/09/05 5:03 PM >>> On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 04:28:40PM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > How many lepers are there in the US? > > -- Natalie > > 540 Moral or otherwise? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 17:26:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39MQh0m031651 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:26:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:26:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD8D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:26:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:26:43 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39MGg2I032086 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:16:42 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j39MGbAW009198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:16:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:16:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: morning greatness Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >I have no interest in exercising in the early a.m. That's mainly because I love the way I feel in the early a.m. and don't want to mess with that good feeling.< I too feel great early in the morning. And if I get a workout in before 8 a.m., I feel about ten times as great as I did before the workot. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 17:35:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39MYp0m032151 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:34:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:35:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD8E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:34:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:34:50 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39MYopm001917 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:34:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409223450.RBOI2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:34:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42585886.9030906@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:34:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sorry References: <004b01c53cc4$939354d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4257BF76.9040805@maynor.net> <4258061D.8030507@maynor.net> <4258356F.6010403@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>went outside and took the picture of Spencer in the tub. And now I >>think I'm going to take Spencer for a walk. Tis a gorgeous day. >>-- Natalie >> >> > Tis a beautiful day here also. Definitely Spring. I did my Tai Chi and >Strong Women Strong Bones weight-lifting this morning. Then Clyde and I took >about a 90 minute hike in Great Meadow, Sieur du Monts Spring, and The Tarn. > > Poor Spencer didn't get his walk after all. He just stayed potted in that big pot, I guess, while I on a whim went up to the haunted church and took some pictures. Inspired again at thoughts of the Find-a-Grave site and knowing that there were some old graves at the haunted church, I headed to Madison County and had a great time tromping around among old graves. I took a bunch of pictures of graves of dead strangers. The haunted church was a deserted old church in my childhood and teenaged years. One of the exciting things to do as a teenager was go at night to The Haunted Church. I think we once had a snipe hunt near there also. Anyway, it is no longer abandoned. It has been rejuvenated and is said to be the fastest-growing church in the state -- or maybe the fastest-growing Episcopal Church in the sate. That area is now full of expensive homes of former Jacksonians -- lots of rich Republicans who fled to Madison since Jackson was becoming "too black." Here's info on the history of the haunted church: http://www.chapelofthecrossms.org/about/history.html > Now the day is over but yet the sun shines brightly. What will I do in >Norway where the sun will rise at 1:15 a.m. and set at 10:15 p.m.? Way too >many hours in the day. > > I managed to manage in Fairbanks in July, when there was only something like an hour or two of darkness. The Super8 had thick window shades. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 17:36:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39MaF0m032241 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:36:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:36:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD720@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:36:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:36:14 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39MaEqq001988 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:36:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409223614.RBWG2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:36:14 -0400 Message-ID: <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:36:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>How many lepers are there in the US? >>-- Natalie >> >> > > 540 > > Way low. Maybe it's time to give the multiple-choice options that were given on the radio: 3,000, 30,000, 300,000. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 17:37:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Mau0m032327 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:36:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:37:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD721@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:36:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:36:52 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39MaqvA002032 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:36:52 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1553004rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.61 with SMTP id u61mr2871304rnb; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:36:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TkeBoFJRr7nY6ZVAdKg/UMKyLRy4H+2vP6XUvIBEzRTNP3ybWO1OcYn6/CL6/pJJTv6TJ1bDFPqCEIKJlOWQkTOJ+3q6/CSrvTqvplp9jO1HAeOnTxGBkZPn9JMfxLxrJFIFE+eSm0Sntn9+pFRy8FjozE5sjhPa20WxerNPBAU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:36:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39Mau0m032327 30,000 On Apr 9, 2005 5:36 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > bonniemaev wrote: > > >>How many lepers are there in the US? > >>-- Natalie > >> > >> > > > > 540 > > > > > Way low. Maybe it's time to give the multiple-choice options that were > given on the radio: 3,000, 30,000, 300,000. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 17:44:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39MiD0m000041 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:44:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:44:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD833@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:44:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:44:12 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39MiCiK002862 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:44:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409224412.RDUB2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:44:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:44:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >30,000 > > That was my guess also. But no. The answer was 300,000. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 17:47:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39MlF0m000323 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:47:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:47:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD83A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:47:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:47:15 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39MlFrk003105 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:47:15 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1554491rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.3.33 with SMTP id f33mr2924264rni; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:47:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qjO+2OJsMRubGYP+JsFqIwbi4lNiUbQAmSJtgvBffHpAHJJuI8hPKCdKTTyo5ZuiMpglNa+OYDVBwkw4TvDdA/qkYvOqYJir4tP4h0vLJjqdFMvK+t37RFkEiDMOxaIxRWJpXbgnvbYE3TnBRJan5L3y8gyqGVWjAZFt2u2dFzQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:47:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39MlF0m000323 On Apr 9, 2005 5:44 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >30,000 > > > > > That was my guess also. But no. The answer was 300,000. > That really surprises me. I think they should all move to Molokai. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 17:52:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39MqV0m000909 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:52:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:52:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD745@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:52:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:52:30 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39MqUoY003649 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:52:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409225230.RFKR2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:52:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:52:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>That was my guess also. But no. The answer was 300,000. >> >> > >That really surprises me. > > Me too. And it surprised one of the people talking on the radio. BUT -- look what I just found by googling: "Of immediate concern is the fact that there are approximately 6,000 known cases of leprosy in the United States." from: http://users.erols.com/lwm-alf/leprosy.html Did none of the rest of you happen to hear this leprosy question on "What Do You Know"? I know I heard the answer as 300,000. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 17:58:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39MwZ0m001265 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:58:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:58:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD91E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:58:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:58:35 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39MwYRw004464 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:58:35 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1555947rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.66.24 with SMTP id o24mr2637312rna; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:58:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BjhwZ77KxWWzpTISGlQkhwEbS0XzETaplgHuFA9f9g+OqIUrQyKQsImChIJCaDt7jTBlTzSbmDINDdbgq1bgKbp397kKPYBE5ehUPj5TDbj1/3exawjMLImkkvTaLFIBYU47VwFb4cljWjVsaojR/B+tin/DGYpi18OZ3dJkSKQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504091558566c21b7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:58:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39MwZ0m001265 On Apr 9, 2005 5:52 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>That was my guess also. But no. The answer was 300,000. > >> > >> > > > >That really surprises me. > > > > > Me too. And it surprised one of the people talking on the radio. BUT > -- look what I just found by googling: > > "Of immediate concern is the fact that there are approximately 6,000 > known cases of leprosy in the United States." > from: http://users.erols.com/lwm-alf/leprosy.html > > Did none of the rest of you happen to hear this leprosy question on > "What Do You Know"? I know I heard the answer as 300,000. > I loathe Michael Feldman; he's an idiot of Wildmanesque proportions. This just confirms it. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 17:58:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39Mwf0m001273 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:58:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:58:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD85C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:58:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:58:40 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39MmeYp003242 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:48:40 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j39MmaFf021991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:48:36 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:48:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Rossini Festival Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As I said, I have never before been in Knoxville during the Rossini Festival (this is, I think, the 4th year). It was splendid. Several blocks of Gay Street and appropriate side streets were blocked off. Several performance stages were set up in the middle of Gay St. - there were bands,m dancers, etc. >From north of the Tennessee Theatre to south of the Bijou, food and other vendors were packed side-by-side. All sorts of food were offered. Lida and I opted for one of Club Le Conte's offering - mussel pasta. She had beer, I had freshly-made lemonade. The opera productions today were from UT students - and they were quite good. The Festival continues tonight and, I think, tomorrow. I think we should have something like this much more often than once a year. The only problem that I think arose was tight parking downtown. Fortunately, my St. John's Cathedral sticker took care of that for me, though even I had to negotiate a bit. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:12:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NCS0m002536 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:12:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:12:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD94E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:08:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:08:39 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39N8c5Y005358 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:08:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409230838.IRKV2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:08:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42586073.8040405@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:08:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091558566c21b7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504091558566c21b7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I loathe Michael Feldman; he's an idiot of Wildmanesque proportions. This >just confirms it. > > I have no opinion of him. I just listen to whatever is on when I'm in my car, and he is sometimes it. I do know that I've heard some funny things on that show. One that stands out in my memory was the woman talking about the horse that lives in their house. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:12:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NCS0m002534 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:12:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:12:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD94A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:07:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:07:16 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39N7G0g005144 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:07:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409230715.IRCV2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:07:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42586020.1080107@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:07:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rossini Festival References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > It was splendid. Several blocks >of Gay Street and appropriate side streets were blocked off. Several >performance stages were set up in the middle of Gay St. - there were >bands,m dancers, etc. > > You should make plans to visit Starkville for the Cotton District Arts Festival. I think it's to be Apr. 23 this year. Lots of food booths, crafts booths, stages with performers, etc. And there's a dog parade at the beginning. Probably Spencer will participate in that parade again this year. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:12:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NCS0m002535 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:12:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:12:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD86E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:02:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:02:24 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39N2OMH004737 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:02:24 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1556557rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.66.59 with SMTP id o59mr804041rna; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:02:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FxMgAZ3TV05lV4SVtsO+QCemleirCj2QwJmU1KH9m0Npanm3BSvj0DBorE8LOYCAy5W8tBomrTSo1SMFnQdvKINTGk8pex91fqX9aPA9Y8hxu8vZpRVwgX5jEXmqO14tklVITrHCkcNneuBCqk9/kYoiNfcV9b0yuflAJkbe24Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:02:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39NCS0m002535 >From http://www.leprosy.org/LEPfaq.html "* Is there leprosy in the U.S.? * Approximately 5,000 people in the U.S. are cured but suffer from the effects of leprosy and continue to receive care through outpatient clinics and private physicians. Approximately 150 people are diagnosed with leprosy each year in the U.S. " On Apr 9, 2005 5:52 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>That was my guess also. But no. The answer was 300,000. > >> > >> > > > >That really surprises me. > > > > > Me too. And it surprised one of the people talking on the radio. BUT > -- look what I just found by googling: > > "Of immediate concern is the fact that there are approximately 6,000 > known cases of leprosy in the United States." > from: http://users.erols.com/lwm-alf/leprosy.html > > Did none of the rest of you happen to hear this leprosy question on > "What Do You Know"? I know I heard the answer as 300,000. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:12:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NCc0m002554 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:12:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:12:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD893@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:12:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:12:37 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39NCbTS005823 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:12:37 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1557952rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.3.33 with SMTP id f33mr2935138rni; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:12:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gMwNxEKnSjuS9SCzEoO6JIGJx4DFsaYPxRGmUj44swcndOTV3DjrAUOtl2hhTpOgvcog6HzwhyYlcAOlk7pO+sIT4fGGzPm4ujQdk6kmrrDJvO0EAgCYC6rP3OvB8tFl8qaWxWc521NFuaUg4S6pF4LFlTxvBmVzsA0rN557wEc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504091612750c7862@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:12:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39NCc0m002554 On Apr 9, 2005 6:10 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>From http://www.leprosy.org/LEPfaq.html > > > >"* Is there leprosy in the U.S.? * > >Approximately 5,000 people in the U.S. are cured but suffer from the > effects > >of leprosy and continue to receive care through outpatient clinics and > >private physicians. > > > >Approximately 150 people are diagnosed with leprosy each year in the U.S. > " > > > > > Could this add up to 300,000? > Yeah, in 2000 years. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:12:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NCS0m002537 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:12:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:12:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD890@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:10:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:10:55 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39NAtLB005662 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:10:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409231054.IRXB2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:10:54 -0400 Message-ID: <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:10:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>From http://www.leprosy.org/LEPfaq.html > >"* Is there leprosy in the U.S.? * >Approximately 5,000 people in the U.S. are cured but suffer from the effects >of leprosy and continue to receive care through outpatient clinics and >private physicians. > >Approximately 150 people are diagnosed with leprosy each year in the U.S. " > > Could this add up to 300,000? I really am sure that I heard it correctly. I was turning the corner from Crane to Nassau when the answer was given. I was pulling into my driveway when the other person was saying that that sounded very high, and then somebody (Michael F?) said something like, "but not in relation to the total population." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:16:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NFn0m002870 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:15:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:15:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD8A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:15:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:15:48 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39NFm4c006039 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:15:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409231548.ITCK2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:15:48 -0400 Message-ID: <42586220.9060603@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:15:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rossini Festival References: <42586020.1080107@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42586020.1080107@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > You should make plans to visit Starkville for the Cotton District Arts > Festival. I think it's to be Apr. 23 this year. Lots of food booths, > crafts booths, stages with performers, etc. And there's a dog parade at > the beginning. Probably Spencer will participate in that parade again > this year. I just found where I had put the pictures I took last year, but they don't show stuff like the excellent food booths: http://maynor.net/Temp/CDFest/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:16:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NGZ0m002970 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:16:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:16:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DD963@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:16:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:16:35 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39NGZji006109 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:16:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.153]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409231634.ITHG2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:16:34 -0400 Message-ID: <4258624F.8080007@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:16:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091612750c7862@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504091612750c7862@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Could this add up to 300,000? > > >Yeah, in 2000 years. > > We're in 2005. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:21:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NLX0m003265 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:21:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:21:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD7AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:21:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:21:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39NLWFH006691 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:21:32 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:21:32 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:21:23 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Rossini Festival Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU These pictures remind me of the Syracuse Downtown Arts Festival. I'm curious, what is the kid with the sticks (p 4) doing? BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 04/09/05 7:15 PM >>> I just found where I had put the pictures I took last year, but they don't show stuff like the excellent food booths: http://maynor.net/Temp/CDFest/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:26:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NPu0m003969 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:25:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:26:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD7B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:25:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:25:56 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39NPto7006937 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:25:56 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:25:55 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:25:41 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Another Quiz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That's 2005 A.D. not 2005 A.U.S. >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 04/09/05 7:16 PM >>> A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Could this add up to 300,000? > > >Yeah, in 2000 years. > > We're in 2005. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:31:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NUv0m004373 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:30:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:31:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD8C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:30:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:30:56 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39NUuEm007206 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:30:56 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1560474rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.82.21 with SMTP id f21mr2874093rnb; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:30:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ufgF+ZlUhWCT2iCNdDX3CRAQTDxlUuxNjD9t61V6KFXKFz9Kak9rB1GOO4qOYkTkVEi1lw/qqE6DznlGN93v6TJeLD4I2wrVKFwsHA8xNPlccsLdFnC6wQ2Uo1HwbQMBievYawS8AO5R+98edij42Ccd35IjocwOs6ac9qwj/uA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705040916306eb9a57f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:30:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <4258624F.8080007@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091612750c7862@mail.gmail.com> <4258624F.8080007@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39NUv0m004373 On Apr 9, 2005 6:16 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> Could this add up to 300,000? > > > > > >Yeah, in 2000 years. > > > > > We're in 2005. > I did think of that. But before the cure was discovered, there were more than 150 per year. Btw, here's a nice quote about Mother Marianne Cope for you from the Honolulu Star-Bulletin: "In the work for the lepers, Father Damien did nothing that Mother Marianne did not do likewise," the Rev. Peter Gumpel, the Vatican-appointed judge examining the sainthood case, said in his report to the Congregation for the Causes of Saints. She performed "with boundless energy the most humble, repulsive and dangerous services." -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:32:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NWa0m004438 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:32:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:32:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD7C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:32:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:32:32 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39NWWRU007290 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:32:32 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1560642rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.3.33 with SMTP id f33mr2944268rni; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 16:32:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=uUICAu3/NpeBzVS16CMfdVnC9i5gIHo+37pzwY+fsSgsxnL8xbF95gou0OxuX/W6y9Byr59RKfXKI6ZUTVxKc0hsFbf2/37ukdJgadTeizBpgxiRLNdfIJpUEOt7ow+0ua+dRNHx2xwtbEJa1tmjk7mMpkUfAL2xEIkf8DWQkvY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705040916323d70a592@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:32:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705040916306eb9a57f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091612750c7862@mail.gmail.com> <4258624F.8080007@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916306eb9a57f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j39NWa0m004438 On Apr 9, 2005 6:30 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On Apr 9, 2005 6:16 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > >> Could this add up to 300,000? > > > > > > > > >Yeah, in 2000 years. > > > > > > > > We're in 2005. > > > > I did think of that. But before the cure was discovered, there were more > than 150 per year. > > Btw, here's a nice quote about Mother Marianne Cope for you from the > Honolulu For some reason, I thought I was replying to Paul. This was for him, not you. Star-Bulletin: > > "In the work for the lepers, Father Damien did nothing that Mother > Marianne did not do likewise," the Rev. Peter Gumpel, the Vatican-appointed > judge examining the sainthood case, said in his report to the Congregation > for the Causes of Saints. She performed "with boundless energy the most > humble, repulsive and dangerous services." > -- > Karen > "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- > Andy Goldsworthy > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 18:58:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j39NwC0m006774 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:58:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:58:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF8344@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:58:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 27334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:58:11 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39NwBbM009126 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:58:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.58]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409235811.RTLS2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:58:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42586C0F.20606@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:58:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091612750c7862@mail.gmail.com> <4258624F.8080007@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916306eb9a57f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705040916306eb9a57f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I did think of that. But before the cure was discovered, there were more >than 150 per year. > > When was the cure discovered? I know I've read it but can't remember. I also know that I've told before the rather embarrassing story of youth -- about how several of us drove through the leper colony near Baton Rouge when we were at LSU, just out of curiosity at what driving through a leper colony would be like, and then got back to the dorm and spent ages washing the car thoroughly -- having grown up with singing "Leprosy is crawling all over me" and not wanting fingernail in gingerale or eyeball in highball, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 19:04:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A04q0m007536 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:04:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:04:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD7F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:54:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 27254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:54:51 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j39NsoW1008852 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:54:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.58]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050409235450.RSRC2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:54:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42586B47.3000100@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:54:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rossini Festival References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >These pictures remind me of the Syracuse Downtown Arts Festival. I'm >curious, what is the kid with the sticks (p 4) doing? > > My vague memory is that it was some kind of primitive music-making. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 19:19:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A0J80m008763 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:19:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:19:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DD929@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:19:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 27813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:19:08 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A0J7it010521 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:19:08 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3A0J6Lf022539 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:19:07 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3A0HtCA016124 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:17:57 -0400 Message-ID: <00f501c53d62$bfae07b0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42580698.5050905@maynor.net> <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050409181432.GA42894@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:17:55 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 01:51:12PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: >> No... but The Lexus and the Olive Tree was insightful. >> >> Have you been watching the geo-political moves with China? I think >> Taiwan >> is going to be made a scapegoat for China's near bankrupt economy... and >> speaking of collapsing economies, Japan isn't in great shape either. > > 'Makes you feel so 'good! hej dushar, stuff it up your ass From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 19:39:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A0d70m010536 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:39:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:39:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DDA11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:39:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:39:07 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A0d7da012538 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:39:07 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3A0d6Lb022768 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:39:06 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3A0blCA018646 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:37:49 -0400 Message-ID: <016601c53d65$86285ab0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42580698.5050905@maynor.net> <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a7050409120020ba3272@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:37:46 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" On Apr 9, 2005 12:51 PM, Alan Wild wrote: >> >> No... but The Lexus and the Olive Tree was insightful. > Oh. God. Explain your reaction, Karen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 21:11:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A2BW0m019022 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:11:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:11:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DDA12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:11:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 30911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:11:32 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A2BV2O019814 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:11:32 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1580537rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.3.33 with SMTP id f33mr3015216rni; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:11:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=fdOMO3KrismAGhm3pdTUaI6BOGVbnrjzGUHFhFbipQ9OfueVZCKBNhJGNOtnVnlWObjq1sIIon8rFz8Fr2SNPWaY7Fik9KIPHHVCQrD+yuQL0m/vqXe1Ob13dWRDwWCHeqTYI0x2OoJMQFWzN3I7vliNn7FPXO2FCYY9XG58yko= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705040919112bb73077@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:11:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: GODDAMN ACTIIVIST JUDGES! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3A2BW0m019022 http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/2355.html The judge suspends the spammer's 9-year sentence. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 21:42:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A2gi0m021453 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:42:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:42:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD95D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:42:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:42:44 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A2giY3023665 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:42:44 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 3F60ABE8C3; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D8BC2849 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:42:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Is this funny? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? A: Because it was there. I thought this was funny, but now I'm thinking it is NOT funny and I am goofy and possibly drunk. Would it be funnier like this: [interview of chicken:] Q: Why did you cross the road, Chicken? A: Because it was there. Probably not. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 21:48:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A2m30m021829 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:48:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:48:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DDA65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:48:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:48:03 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A2m3PI024108 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:48:03 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:48:03 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:47:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Is this funny? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It might be funnier if you interviewed the road. BrP >>> aborkin@RAHUL.NET 04/09/05 10:42 PM >>> Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? A: Because it was there. I thought this was funny, but now I'm thinking it is NOT funny and I am goofy and possibly drunk. Would it be funnier like this: [interview of chicken:] Q: Why did you cross the road, Chicken? A: Because it was there. Probably not. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 21:51:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A2pR0m022169 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:51:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:51:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DD96E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:51:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:51:26 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A2pQYa024423 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:51:26 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 675FCBE8C2; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD3CC2849 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:51:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is this funny? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: > It might be funnier if you interviewed the road. > > BrP Like, Q: Road, why did the chicken cross *you*? A. I dunno, because I was there, I guess. ha ha ha ha ha - NOT>? Ann > > >>> aborkin@RAHUL.NET 04/09/05 10:42 PM >>> > Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? > A: Because it was there. > > I thought this was funny, but now I'm thinking it is NOT funny and I am > goofy and possibly drunk. > > Would it be funnier like this: > > [interview of chicken:] > > Q: Why did you cross the road, Chicken? > A: Because it was there. > > Probably not. > > Ann > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:11:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3B30m025216 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:11:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:11:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DDB10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:01:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:00:57 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A30v5q025480 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:00:57 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:00:57 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:00:24 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Is this funny? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Now THAT's funny! - but only if you do it with a gravely voice. BrP >>> aborkin@RAHUL.NET 04/09/05 10:51 PM >>> Q: Road, why did the chicken cross *you*? A. I dunno, because I was there, I guess. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:11:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3B30m025217 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:11:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:11:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DDD1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:09:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:09:11 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A39Ak4027123 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:09:11 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1587495rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.66.59 with SMTP id o59mr914442rna; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:09:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NeRdzX/EvGM46IFhlKgECHeHiCEfrji8PfFHJ5mZIWHmXiPkKHKROMOiRpb9mI8K7B90m6Rd/Ytwkp4jin2x6+t41DXr/KQ46Fi+z6JWF6jXSthQi/eHa+bzJYkD6DKuCvLjVsXBg5CQhV4MlC5VK34bk2iBDfiPktDRqt3jmg0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504092009615a47d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:09:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is this funny? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3A3B30m025217 On Apr 9, 2005 10:00 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Now THAT's funny! - but only if you do it with a gravely voice. > > BrP > > >>> aborkin@RAHUL.NET 04/09/05 10:51 PM >>> > > Q: Road, why did the chicken cross *you*? > A. I dunno, because I was there, I guess. The answer should have a pun on 'cross' in it. Maybe a gravelly Italian voice? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:35:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ZC0m028424 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:35:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:35:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DDD3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:15:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:15:11 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3FANX027733 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:15:11 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 15930935 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:20:43 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:15:32 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:15:32 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1486447321.20050409211532@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Att: BAWLers In-Reply-To: <4251BFCB.8050308@maynor.net> References: <425070F3.1030401@maynor.net> <1701447265.20050404145902@gailndan.com> <4251BFCB.8050308@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=66194, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/4/2005, 4:29 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Bingo. Googling their name and New Mexico yielded the name of the town NM> -- Mountainair. Thanks. Not exactly in the mountains, despite the name. Same with Mountain Home, ID. Both are in the desert, though you can see some mountains on most days. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:35:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ZC0n028424 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:35:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:35:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DDC95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:22:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:22:42 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3MgTb028067 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:22:42 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 15995585 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:43:39 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:23:04 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:23:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <868187050.20050409212303@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (FOJP2) - names of the saints In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 158, in=55357, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU He added a bunch, but also deleted some of dubious provenance. 4/5/2005, 1:55 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> One part of the ritual that I saw was part of the the procession of the PB> body during which the names of the saints were being chanted followed by PB> "ora pro eo" ("pray for him") Do they do ALL the saints? and didn't PB> JP2 more than double the previous list? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:35:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ZC0n028421 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:35:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:35:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DDD66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:33:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:33:41 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3Xe0o028584 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:33:40 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 15773204 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:45:24 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:34:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <778402076.20050409213402@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Quiz Question In-Reply-To: <200504091214.j39CE5Kn014884@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504091214.j39CE5Kn014884@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 162, in=53811, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/9/2005, 6:14 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>So probably it was the burning and sinking of that boat on Lake Michigan >>at Chicago around the turn of the century. Hundreds died. >> >>Sorry, I can't remember the name of the vessel or the year. CO> This isn't the Edmund Fitzgerald on Huron? That was on Superior anyway. And it was only thirtynine on it, if memory serves. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:35:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ZC0o028424 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:35:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:35:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DDCA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:34:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:34:22 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3YLCr028630 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:34:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 15978502 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:34:43 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:34:44 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:34:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <195857673.20050409213443@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Weird In-Reply-To: <83db447a05040906054c798557@mail.gmail.com> References: <4257C17F.9050700@maynor.net> <83db447a05040906054c798557@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 160, in=52896, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/9/2005, 7:05 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> Why would anybody, or at least anybody other than extreme fans of the >> team, want to watch a spring practice football game involving just one >> team? CV> It's a fairly common thing in Jesus-land. Tennessee nearly (maybe does, CV> now) fills the stadium for their spring game. The Boise State one is going to be on ESPN....though time shifted. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:35:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ZC0m028421 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:35:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:35:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DDB80@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:19:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:19:47 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3Jkwp027915 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:19:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 15931176 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:25:19 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:20:09 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:20:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <767890180.20050409212008@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: from the Globe and Mail In-Reply-To: <20050405060032.GB3855@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050405060032.GB3855@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=66195, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But the even money favorite is on three days. Longer odds on any other number. dan 4/5/2005, 12:00 AM, steph wrote: s> And for this reason it is expected that they may take a little more time s> choosing the next pope. s> On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:15:07PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: s> = "For the first time in more than 800 years, the cardinals will have s> = comfortable living quarters with en suite bathrooms in the newly built s> = Domus Sanctae Marthae, rather than iron cots, chamber pots and the thin s> = dividers that would separate a snoring eminence from a flatulent one in s> = the Apostolic Palace." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:56:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ti0m030944 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:55:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:56:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DDCA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:35:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:35:43 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3ZhF4028676 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:35:43 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1590854rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.61 with SMTP id u61mr3004480rnb; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:35:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GONnjta2pGIPlOC7bMgAIYhcaRGYAMggjE2FvzYHgljPeNwbtwLAdjDGcKcjJt+NT9GXUZqc6/SF6oICKU3Jtp07UlV6WRKik1hsn3a8NEo51COxb7r0rHGm1QZm/QHjyYJ8c0XOYvl4GMoAh+cMncQ3oh+ryMqorR2km77LrN4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504092035632e457d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:35:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Thumb drives and airports Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3A3ti0m030944 Any problems taking a thumb/jump drive through airport security? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:56:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ti0m030952 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:55:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:56:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DDCB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:41:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:41:59 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3fwhX029162 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:41:59 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 15978944 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:42:20 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:42:21 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:42:20 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1310548531.20050409214220@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 160, in=52899, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/9/2005, 5:10 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Approximately 150 people are diagnosed with leprosy each year in the U.S. " >> >> NM> Could this add up to 300,000? No. If they were infected at birth and lived to 100, that would be 150x100, or only 15,000. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:56:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ti0m030950 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:55:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:56:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DDCA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:37:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:37:23 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3bNrE028750 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:37:23 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 15978668 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:37:45 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:37:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:37:45 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <328983175.20050409213745@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <425815DA.3010203@maynor.net> References: <425815DA.3010203@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 160, in=52898, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It is Hansen's disease. But there are still a few elderly ones living at Kalaupapa, and I believe some in LA. 4/9/2005, 11:50 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>None - because now it's called Hansen's Disease (or is it Hanson's?) >> >> NM> Wrong -- or at least according to my car radio this morning. I mean NM> "none" is wrong -- not the because clause. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:56:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ti0m030951 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:55:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:56:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DDD7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:43:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:43:01 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3h0PB029214 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:43:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 15979014 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:43:22 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:43:23 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:43:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <498821728.20050409214322@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705040916306eb9a57f@mail.gmail.com> References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091612750c7862@mail.gmail.com> <4258624F.8080007@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916306eb9a57f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 160, in=52900, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/9/2005, 5:30 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Btw, here's a nice quote about Mother Marianne Cope for you from the AFoA> Honolulu Star-Bulletin: AFoA> "In the work for the lepers, Father Damien did nothing that Mother Marianne AFoA> did not do likewise," the Rev. Peter Gumpel, the Vatican-appointed judge AFoA> examining the sainthood case, said in his report to the Congregation for the AFoA> Causes of Saints. She performed "with boundless energy the most humble, AFoA> repulsive and dangerous services." So is she beatified yet? Or has she no miracles to her credit yet? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:56:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ti0n030944 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:56:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:56:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DDD7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:43:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:43:48 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3hlaE029270 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:43:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 15773711 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:55:32 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:44:10 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:44:09 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <724085353.20050409214409@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <42586C0F.20606@maynor.net> References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091612750c7862@mail.gmail.com> <4258624F.8080007@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916306eb9a57f@mail.gmail.com> <42586C0F.20606@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 162, in=53808, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/9/2005, 5:58 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>I did think of that. But before the cure was discovered, there were more >>than 150 per year. >> >> NM> When was the cure discovered? I know I've read it but can't remember. NM> I also know that I've told before the rather embarrassing story of youth NM> -- about how several of us drove through the leper colony near Baton NM> Rouge when we were at LSU, just out of curiosity at what driving through NM> a leper colony would be like, and then got back to the dorm and spent NM> ages washing the car thoroughly -- having grown up with singing "Leprosy NM> is crawling all over me" and not wanting fingernail in gingerale or NM> eyeball in highball, etc. I believe it was sulfa drugs in the 30s or 40s, thus the very few left still living at Kalaupapa. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:56:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ti0n030952 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:56:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:56:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DDD7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:44:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:44:48 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3imDk029328 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:44:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 15932729 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:50:21 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:45:10 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:45:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <715455683.20050409214510@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thumb drives and airports In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504092035632e457d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70504092035632e457d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=66197, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No. Not affected by the scanning, etc. Also not a problem to them. 4/9/2005, 9:35 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Any problems taking a thumb/jump drive through airport security? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:56:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3ti0m030949 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:55:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:56:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DDD72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:41:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:41:09 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3f8ok029063 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:41:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 15773631 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:52:52 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:41:31 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:41:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <779915163.20050409214130@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <42586073.8040405@maynor.net> References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091558566c21b7@mail.gmail.com> <42586073.8040405@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 162, in=53813, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/9/2005, 5:08 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I have no opinion of him. I just listen to whatever is on when I'm in NM> my car, and he is sometimes it. I do know that I've heard some funny NM> things on that show. One that stands out in my memory was the woman NM> talking about the horse that lives in their house. Do you only have one station to listen to? And you lack a tape or CD player? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:57:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3vU0m031153 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:57:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:57:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF882C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:47:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:47:29 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3lTUc029436 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:47:29 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1592236rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.2.70 with SMTP id 70mr2997830rnb; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:47:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZwqYFM+BBJOanbLtXVV7nfOolDfOzhiOMXnPw4Kulft4OFdqdYNLdMTumTKMe4cb7dSnWuSMjpvsRZ9QhQ0dKPdy0nOXY9/Q3KRkBpl2XEY5fhiA/AED7O/YvjjUIuYZEBXqDYxNVgEgoRJKTqbrYLVeqcR7tRF+DHwqeeWBDpg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504092047541df7b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:47:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thumb drives and airports In-Reply-To: <715455683.20050409214510@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70504092035632e457d@mail.gmail.com> <715455683.20050409214510@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3A3vU0m031153 On Apr 9, 2005 10:45 PM, Dan Lester wrote: > > No. Not affected by the scanning, etc. > Do you have a cite for this? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 22:57:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A3vU0m031155 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:57:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:57:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF8835@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:50:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:50:37 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3obMN029716 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:50:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 15979416 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:50:58 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:50:59 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:50:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <273548805.20050409215058@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Thumb drives and airports In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504092047541df7b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70504092035632e457d@mail.gmail.com> <715455683.20050409214510@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504092047541df7b1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 160, in=52904, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Personal experience on numerous occasions. The USB 256mb drive is in the bag with the laptop, which is scanned. On a couple of occasions it has been in my pocket, and thus put in the tray with keys and such. 4/9/2005, 9:47 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> On Apr 9, 2005 10:45 PM, Dan Lester wrote: >> >> No. Not affected by the scanning, etc. >> AFoA> Do you have a cite for this? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 23:06:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A46L0m032506 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:06:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:06:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DDBE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:56:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:56:20 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A3uK94030321 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:56:20 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1593150rne for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.61 with SMTP id u61mr3014201rnb; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.16 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:56:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kkUlT4ecgO3ws6e0HFoOkdu1CYOXH8qHGEXbRBECMgd0oDgbwdcAEMCLNNbeYF95pRui6Ej8ZFlzuY3koQwsHqAzQDqKyuXNzfABqahyK/ceruhjANtI5k9M+4kDB9A036VTXiKc5T7oZRW+OfmUUARJOt5l255Kce5yJKAMzP4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504092056a0ea1dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:56:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thumb drives and airports In-Reply-To: <273548805.20050409215058@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70504092035632e457d@mail.gmail.com> <715455683.20050409214510@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504092047541df7b1@mail.gmail.com> <273548805.20050409215058@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3A46L0m032506 On Apr 9, 2005 10:50 PM, Dan Lester wrote: > > Personal experience on numerous occasions. The USB 256mb drive is in > the bag with the laptop, which is scanned. > I'm wondering about a much bigger drive, which would be more sensitive. Probably 1 GB. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 23:13:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A4D90m000479 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:13:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:13:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF88C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 0:13:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 39584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:12:56 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A4491k031120 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:04:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 15933748 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:09:42 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:04:31 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:04:31 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1317066244.20050409220431@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Thumb drives and airports In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504092056a0ea1dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70504092035632e457d@mail.gmail.com> <715455683.20050409214510@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504092047541df7b1@mail.gmail.com> <273548805.20050409215058@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504092056a0ea1dd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=66200, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why would it be more sensitive? And if it is like any I've seen, it is inside a little metal case, just as a regular disk drive is. But....do whatever you want, and let us know. 4/9/2005, 9:56 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> On Apr 9, 2005 10:50 PM, Dan Lester wrote: >> >> Personal experience on numerous occasions. The USB 256mb drive is in >> the bag with the laptop, which is scanned. >> AFoA> I'm wondering about a much bigger drive, which would be more sensitive. AFoA> Probably 1 GB. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 23:38:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A4cK0m002611 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:38:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:38:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DDEB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 0:38:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:38:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3A4SJNA032766 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:28:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 14354 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 04:28:19 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:28:19 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: GODDAMN ACTIIVIST JUDGES! Message-ID: <20050410042819.GC6003@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705040919112bb73077@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705040919112bb73077@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 09:11:31PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/2355.html > > The judge suspends the spammer's 9-year sentence. I feel your pain. We should kick some criminal ass first. If we can afford to take time off from all the punishing, then we might consider shooting the bull about nerdy "constitutional problems". > -- > Karen > "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- > Andy Goldsworthy Does this guy have a blog? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 23:40:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A4do0m002679 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:39:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:40:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF8958@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 0:39:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:39:50 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3A4TnTZ000392 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:29:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 15426 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 04:29:49 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:29:49 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is this funny? Message-ID: <20050410042949.GE6003@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:47:37PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > It might be funnier if you interviewed the road. Like Ira Glass is funny, sure. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 23:40:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A4dn0m002669 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:39:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:40:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF8987@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 0:31:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:31:27 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3A4LQ3F032567 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:21:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 10726 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 04:21:26 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:21:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050410042124.GB6003@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42580698.5050905@maynor.net> <00c301c53d2c$b96b9ce0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050409181432.GA42894@words-l.org> <00f501c53d62$bfae07b0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00f501c53d62$bfae07b0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 08:17:55PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > >On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 01:51:12PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > >>No... but The Lexus and the Olive Tree was insightful. > >> > >>Have you been watching the geo-political moves with China? I think > >>Taiwan > >>is going to be made a scapegoat for China's near bankrupt economy... and > >>speaking of collapsing economies, Japan isn't in great shape either. > > > >'Makes you feel so 'good! > > hej dushar, stuff it up your ass What feels 'good to you may not feel good to 'me! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 23:40:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A4dn0m002672 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:39:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:40:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF8940@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 0:29:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:29:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3A4JmEV032362 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:19:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 9089 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 04:19:47 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:19:47 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz Message-ID: <20050410041947.GA6003@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 07:25:41PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > That's 2005 A.D. not 2005 A.U.S. There is no difference--I heard it on TV From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 23:40:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A4dn0m002673 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:39:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:40:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF8957@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 0:39:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:39:06 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3A4T6lT000346 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:29:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 15102 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 04:29:06 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:29:06 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is this funny? Message-ID: <20050410042906.GD6003@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 07:42:43PM -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? > A: Because it was there. > > I thought this was funny, but now I'm thinking it is NOT funny and I am > goofy and possibly drunk. > > Would it be funnier like this: > > [interview of chicken:] > > Q: Why did you cross the road, Chicken? > A: Because it was there. > > Probably not. I find this post hilarious. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 23:51:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A4ou0m003485 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:50:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:51:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF895B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 0:40:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:40:56 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3A4UuRu000475 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:30:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 16412 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 04:30:55 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:30:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is this funny? Message-ID: <20050410043055.GF6003@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 07:51:26PM -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > Like, > > Q: Road, why did the chicken cross *you*? > A. I dunno, because I was there, I guess. > > ha ha ha ha ha - NOT>? I likey! Here's one more: Q: Road, why did the chicken cross you? A: Because it was there! HAR From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 9 23:51:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A4ou0m003483 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:50:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 23:51:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EF89AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 0:43:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:43:05 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3A4X4QF000589 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:33:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 17658 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 04:33:04 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:33:04 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is this funny? Message-ID: <20050410043304.GG6003@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70504092009615a47d1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504092009615a47d1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:09:10PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On Apr 9, 2005 10:00 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > Now THAT's funny! - but only if you do it with a gravely voice. > > > > BrP > > > > >>> aborkin@RAHUL.NET 04/09/05 10:51 PM >>> > > > > Q: Road, why did the chicken cross *you*? > > A. I dunno, because I was there, I guess. > > > The answer should have a pun on 'cross' in it. > > Maybe a gravelly Italian voice? Ha! This joke has remarkatable good scents! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 00:07:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A56v0m005542 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:07:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:07:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF8A06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 1:06:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:06:56 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3A4uugV001578 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:56:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 29257 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 04:56:55 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:56:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Taxi Message-ID: <20050410045655.GH6003@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Palestinian driver surprised me today by singing a song from a 1964 Hindi film. Yep ... he watched it about 40 years ago and he remembers. It turns out that Indian movies were quite popular over there, and so were the songs. He says, everyone liked the basic sound of the music, it was sad and had a feeling of loss in it. A bit one-sided, but still what a CORRECT observation-- that's exactly why I like so many songs. After Russian and Chinese people singing these songs to me, I thought I wouldn't be surprised, but here's a whole bunch of Arabs into it. Tells you who the real enemy is--old Indian pop music ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 01:28:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A6Ru0m013490 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:27:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:28:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF8B0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 2:27:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 43781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:27:56 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3A6HufI006331 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:17:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 14263 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 06:17:55 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 01:17:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taxi Message-ID: <20050410061755.GA3276@words-l.org> References: <20050410045655.GH6003@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050410045655.GH6003@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 11:56:55PM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > After Russian and Chinese people singing these songs to me, I > thought I wouldn't be surprised, but here's a whole bunch of > Arabs into it. Tells you who the real enemy is--old Indian pop > music ... The next place to watch would be Greece. http://www.sulekha.com/expressions/articledesc.asp?cid=302508 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 03:24:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A8O70m025626 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 03:24:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 03:24:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DDE6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 4:24:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 04:24:07 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A8O5kA015891 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 04:24:06 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3A8O404007358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:24:04 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3A8O4Jc007356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:24:04 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:24:04 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thumb drives and airports Message-ID: <20050410082404.GA7206@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a70504092035632e457d@mail.gmail.com> <715455683.20050409214510@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504092047541df7b1@mail.gmail.com> <273548805.20050409215058@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <273548805.20050409215058@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 09:50:58PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: = Personal experience on numerous occasions. The USB 256mb drive is in = the bag with the laptop, which is scanned. = I've done it once myself - in the bag that got xrayed. no problem. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 03:24:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3A8Om0m025700 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 03:24:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 03:24:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DDE71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 4:24:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 04:24:48 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3A8OlQv015929 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 04:24:48 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3A8Ol3w007378 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:24:47 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3A8OlZB007376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:24:47 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:24:47 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thumb drives and airports Message-ID: <20050410082447.GB7206@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a70504092035632e457d@mail.gmail.com> <715455683.20050409214510@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504092047541df7b1@mail.gmail.com> <273548805.20050409215058@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504092056a0ea1dd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504092056a0ea1dd@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = I'm wondering about a much bigger drive, which would be more sensitive. = Probably 1 GB. I've got a 1G one. Why is it more sensitive? I've never heard that before. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 06:29:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ABT80m017270 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:29:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:29:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DE11D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 7:29:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:29:08 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ABT7QX016031 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:29:07 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so551064wra for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 04:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.14.44 with SMTP id 44mr1164975wrn; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 04:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 04:29:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ome/bqfTrqQu3uACBPZ+PikGl7YlW314rHHqMHhzabh68Vmeohnh5rPZX6cQCBZtuTQ/PvaZKvylcR26LSgT3aHmXToCwAHiY8vqa0FpbxiyTKjuRart/zTpiwbZ7gmpyYcm4GjBSI+vZasc4QZxQJ2SUEoqgoMUAINjEjZ4xwI= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:29:07 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question In-Reply-To: <778402076.20050409213402@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504091214.j39CE5Kn014884@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <778402076.20050409213402@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ABT80m017270 > > >>So probably it was the burning and sinking of that boat on Lake Michigan > >>at Chicago around the turn of the century. Hundreds died. > >> > >>Sorry, I can't remember the name of the vessel or the year. > > CO> This isn't the Edmund Fitzgerald on Huron? > > That was on Superior anyway. And it was only thirtynine on it, if > memory serves. > Nor was the Edmund Fitzgerald burned and sunk. I'm not sure that a lake disaster would count as "maritime". -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 07:24:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ACO60m023903 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:24:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:24:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF8D02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 8:24:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:24:05 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ACO58q020915 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:24:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.246]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050410122405.MGFH2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:24:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42591ADF.2050006@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:23:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091558566c21b7@mail.gmail.com> <42586073.8040405@maynor.net> <779915163.20050409214130@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <779915163.20050409214130@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I have no opinion of him. I just listen to whatever is on when I'm in >NM> my car, and he is sometimes it. I do know that I've heard some funny >NM> things on that show. One that stands out in my memory was the woman >NM> talking about the horse that lives in their house. > >Do you only have one station to listen to? > Every once in a while I switch to an oldies station, but usually I leave it on PRM -- oops, make that MPB -- I still hate that name change. Even in Jackson, with distances farther than they were in Starkville, I'm not usually in my car for long enough stretches to care about changing the radio station. > And you lack a tape or CD >player? > > I had a CD player added a few weeks after buying the car. No tape deck. I do quite a bit of CD listening on long trips but not usually otherwise. Sometimes I listen to a CD part of the way between here and Starkville, but usually I just keep listening to the radio, punching the button to jump between 89.9 and 91.3 somewhere between Carthage and Louisville. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 07:26:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ACQQ0m024267 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:26:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:26:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EF8D54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 8:26:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:26:26 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ACQPK5021039 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:26:26 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:26:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:26:03 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: H.B. ET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU :-) The real day at last BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 07:35:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ACZW0m025007 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:35:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:35:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DDFA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 8:25:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:25:32 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ACPVh4020971 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:25:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.246]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050410122531.MGQG2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:25:31 -0400 Message-ID: <42591B37.7030004@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:25:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091612750c7862@mail.gmail.com> <4258624F.8080007@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916306eb9a57f@mail.gmail.com> <42586C0F.20606@maynor.net> <724085353.20050409214409@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <724085353.20050409214409@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> When was the cure discovered? I know I've read it but can't remember. > >I believe it was sulfa drugs in the 30s or 40s, thus the very few left >still living at Kalaupapa. > > Why was there still a whole leper colony in Louisiana in the mid '60s? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 07:38:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ACcn0m025143 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:38:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:38:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE0BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 8:38:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:38:49 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ACcniO022020 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:38:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.246]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050410123848.MKFB2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:38:48 -0400 Message-ID: <42591E54.1070809@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:38:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Looking at this map, you'd think that there was a gap on the route between here and Starkville, but there is not at all a gap. In fact both 89.9 and 91.3 still do ok far into the other one's -- as in sometimes I don't think about changing from one to the other until way beyond the half-way point of the drive: http://www.etv.state.ms.us/images/map-radio-large.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 07:40:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ACeG0m025350 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:40:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:40:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DDFC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 8:40:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:40:16 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ACeGrr022128 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:40:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.246]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050410124016.MKQE2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:40:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42591EAB.4080700@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:40:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: H.B. ET References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >:-) > >The real day at last > > I had to think for a minute what this was about -- who ET was. Then it struck me. HB,K! May you enjoy a cake with lots of thick white icing and colorful flowers! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 07:49:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ACnL0m026053 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:49:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:49:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DE196@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 8:49:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:49:21 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ACnKBk022947 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:49:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.246]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050410124920.MNXN2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:49:20 -0400 Message-ID: <425920CC.1020704@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:49:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Haunted Church Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's the picture I took yesterday of The Haunted Church. It's a pretty church and setting. http://tinyurl.com/4o5p5 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 08:26:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ADQ50m029707 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:26:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:26:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE027@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 9:26:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:26:00 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ADQ0G6025455; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:26:00 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 49695217; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:25:59 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410062534.025feeb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 06:26:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Rossini Festival In-Reply-To: <42586220.9060603@maynor.net> References: <42586020.1080107@maynor.net> <42586220.9060603@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:15 PM 4/9/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>You should make plans to visit Starkville for the Cotton District Arts >>Festival. I think it's to be Apr. 23 this year. Lots of food booths, >>crafts booths, stages with performers, etc. And there's a dog parade at >>the beginning. Probably Spencer will participate in that parade again >>this year. > >I just found where I had put the pictures I took last year, but they >don't show stuff like the excellent food booths: > >http://maynor.net/Temp/CDFest/ That looks great! Not too crowded either. Sometimes those events aren't enjoyable because of crowds. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 09:30:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AEUM0m003488 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:30:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:30:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DE287@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 10:30:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:30:22 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AEUMsm029786 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:30:22 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF8ED8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 10:30:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200504101430.j3AEUMsm029786@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:30:22 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Thumb drives and airports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:47:28 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On Apr 9, 2005 10:45 PM, Dan Lester wrote: >> >> No. Not affected by the scanning, etc. >> > >Do you have a cite for this? >-- >Karen >"The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- >Andy Goldsworthy I forgot and wore mine through on the way to SF, then remembered and put it in the bin on the way to Wilm. - it still works. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 09:30:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AEUk0m003508 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:30:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:30:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DE28A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 10:30:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:30:46 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AEUkOU029857 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:30:46 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE0C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 10:30:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200504101430.j3AEUkOU029857@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:30:45 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Thumb drives and airports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:56:20 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On Apr 9, 2005 10:50 PM, Dan Lester wrote: >> >> Personal experience on numerous occasions. The USB 256mb drive is in >> the bag with the laptop, which is scanned. >> > >I'm wondering about a much bigger drive, which would be more sensitive. >Probably 1 GB. >-- >Karen >"The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- >Andy Goldsworthy Mine was 1 G clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 09:31:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AEVE0m003577 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:31:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:31:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE0C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 10:31:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:31:14 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AEVEj7029985 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:31:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF8EA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 10:31:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200504101431.j3AEVEj7029985@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:31:13 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: 'Anybody... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:21:26 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 08:17:55PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" >> >On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 01:51:12PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: >> >>No... but The Lexus and the Olive Tree was insightful. >> >> >> >>Have you been watching the geo-political moves with China? I think >> >>Taiwan >> >>is going to be made a scapegoat for China's near bankrupt economy... and >> >>speaking of collapsing economies, Japan isn't in great shape either. >> > >> >'Makes you feel so 'good! >> >> hej dushar, stuff it up your ass > >What feels 'good to you may not feel good to 'me! HA! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 09:55:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AEtV0m006580 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:55:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:55:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE0CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 10:37:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:37:31 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AEbViU030554 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:37:31 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EF8EAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 10:37:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200504101437.j3AEbViU030554@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:37:31 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Rashmi To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bleated Happy bday. err, um. belated. This bday thing is getting tricky. Who's supposed to take the lead on this? Come on, people. Step up here. We can't have disorganization. Next thing you know there'll be phatic drivel leaking out everywhere - on tv, in gov't, at cafe's... Aaagh! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 09:55:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AEtV0m006579 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:55:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:55:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE0CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 10:33:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:33:36 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AEXaLf030284 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:33:36 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EF8EF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 10:33:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200504101433.j3AEXaLf030284@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:33:36 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: H.B. ET To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:26:03 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >:-) > >The real day at last > >BrP YaY! Happy Bday, Karen! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 10:44:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AFi50m011909 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:44:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:44:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE24F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 11:44:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:44:04 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AFi4tm002207 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:44:04 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j3AFi286000514 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:44:03 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:44:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Haunted Church In-Reply-To: <425920CC.1020704@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <425920CC.1020704@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Here's the picture I took yesterday of The Haunted Church. It's a > pretty church and setting. > > http://tinyurl.com/4o5p5 I had noticed you were contributing photos to findagrave.com. Kudos! I see from the "Who Is Behind Find A Grave?" page that Jim Tipton is still running it, though now it sounds like he is the CEO of a large enterprise. Back in the spring of 1996, when I was first constructing the Political Graveyard web site, I came across Findagrave, which Jim was building at the same time. I nearly gave up my project when I saw it -- his was so much better. But Jim strongly encouraged me to continue. Seeing his site, though, convinced me to pay an artist to do my logo. I remember when he told me he quit his day job to work on the site. I was hugely envious. But soon after, the dot-com crash (and the associated crash in web advertising revenue) probably affected him a lot more directly than me. Originally his site was about finding the graves of famous people, and I remember the sardonic comments in his FAQ about how your Great-Uncle Morley may have been a fine person, but he probably doesn't meet the famousness standard. Now, of course, the site lists probably millions of regular folks. I also recall that Jim was somewhat ostracized among historic cemetery aficionados (with zero tolerance of even symbolic desecration) due to his hobby of collecting little samples of dirt from famous graves. The main page of the site used to say "I collect dirt from the graves of noteworthy people." No mention of that on Findagrave any more! Anyway, I'm happy to see that he seems to be making a go of it these days. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 11:00:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AFxo0m013820 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:59:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:00:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DE325@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 11:59:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:59:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AFxoa9003096 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:59:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so385077nzp for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr151978nzx; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:59:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=r1FZpFfBH6HONAciy7Di2wuR9qqLCAJEm8heZumCiZEJfd57quAP0t7u2WCjGEJRgQ2SvMMI6os9buUBXjPsspcMqgqcJOa+LQX3kmMhljtG2ML8NOuI3nXKCiQZuzHnMBwmJ2bnHoJoEasIigBboXjRajt0C9p9RAJiihuLGRQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504100859709c11a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:59:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz Question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504091214.j39CE5Kn014884@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <778402076.20050409213402@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3AFxo0m013820 On Apr 10, 2005 6:29 AM, bonniemaev wrote: > > I'm not sure that a lake > disaster would count as "maritime". > You better tell these folks their name is wrong, then: http://www.nmc.edu/maritime/ -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 11:12:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AGCW0m015225 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:12:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE16A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 12:03:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:03:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AG3m5B003332 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:03:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so385388nzp for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.5 with SMTP id h5mr152219nzc; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:03:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W8uj22TqzcGlOU9/OIKN9WCNWrvl5Ki7KCj+cgRb69TuXEVqXlGkiiN8SgVVdAOd8hj+X13/H+9IqmrVTxykT1zr5BZBDT+mc1gZKzmDubkoNswNrXQeH967uST/L+8zNh+/DiQml2SaG2/xt2wUj/JXarhTcTArbuGF0pQcevE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041009034de7eae7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:03:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: H.B. ET In-Reply-To: <200504101433.j3AEXaLf030284@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504101433.j3AEXaLf030284@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3AGCW0m015225 Thanks to you and Natalie, too. I'm going to celebrate by going to work. On Apr 10, 2005 9:33 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:26:03 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >:-) > > > >The real day at last > > > >BrP > > YaY! > Happy Bday, Karen! > clo > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 11:12:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AGCW0m015223 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:12:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DE32B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 12:03:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:03:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AG3F9S003271 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:03:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so385349nzp for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr152281nzc; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:03:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bwn2WdDq3T/T4O0hTjZD/Us6yahEe/h2VyPBLDV0xlCpxS8K/olEjj1n34tDwofqtdFjJqXUajnwrbs9D4L0STE1UglAPXMe6cZPDBz4/Ywc7AsWbUoht+A8h6XG0nvKgR977wKQxrzm5jMAY8OgZlnEyDBgxS1F+g5gIxU4RoE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041009036c7a5d5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:03:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: H.B. ET In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3AGCW0m015223 On Apr 10, 2005 7:26 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > :-) > > The real day at last > Thank you, dear ET. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 11:12:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AGCW0m015224 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:12:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE266@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 12:02:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:02:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AG2VkQ003251 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:02:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so385282nzp for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.12 with SMTP id b12mr152112nzc; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:02:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CqH3msXgsi1PJ9M5tV/UW/Wp0MoVNCGprkzZMm2/MMH3u6ilKZ2yMXIaYbuMqYTrCp8hvOAa+zKQwxXgQvW3uRbnHmLrvTFPxwdKOQYfD1r+BE56Oy8VArJ/9C+XxeaWyUWUAR3Qcf0NaCCTPChfk+hCXSH0nLYzq+Q0PInchgk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041009024759db9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:02:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: GODDAMN ACTIIVIST JUDGES! In-Reply-To: <20050410042819.GC6003@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705040919112bb73077@mail.gmail.com> <20050410042819.GC6003@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3AGCW0m015224 On Apr 9, 2005 11:28 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." > -- > > Andy Goldsworthy > > Does this guy have a blog? > No. His words are too valuable to give away for free. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 11:26:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AGQ00m016957 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:26:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:26:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE18A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 12:19:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:19:11 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3AG9Bg4003608 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:09:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 37293 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 16:09:11 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:09:11 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Haunted Church Message-ID: <20050410160911.GB31848@words-l.org> References: <425920CC.1020704@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:44:02AM -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I also recall that Jim was somewhat ostracized among historic cemetery > aficionados (with zero tolerance of even symbolic desecration) due to his > hobby of collecting little samples of dirt from famous graves. "Zero tolerance of even symbolic desecration" sounded sort of stupid ... but then I read about collecting samples of dirt. Exactly WHAT is the point of this "hobby", I wonder? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 11:26:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AGQ00m016960 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:26:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:26:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE18B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 12:19:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:19:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3AG9lxY003682 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:09:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 37778 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 16:09:47 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:09:47 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: GODDAMN ACTIIVIST JUDGES! Message-ID: <20050410160947.GC31848@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705040919112bb73077@mail.gmail.com> <20050410042819.GC6003@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705041009024759db9c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041009024759db9c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:02:31AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On Apr 9, 2005 11:28 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > > "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." > > -- > > > Andy Goldsworthy > > > > Does this guy have a blog? > > > No. His words are too valuable to give away for free. Where can I report you? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 11:26:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AGQ00m016961 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:26:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:26:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE281@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 12:15:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:16:00 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3AG5xqO003431 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:05:59 -0400 Received: (qmail 35020 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Apr 2005 16:05:59 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:05:59 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050410160559.GA31848@words-l.org> References: <200504101431.j3AEVEj7029985@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504101431.j3AEVEj7029985@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 10:31:13AM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:21:26 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog > wrote: > >On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 08:17:55PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > >> >On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 01:51:12PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > >> >>No... but The Lexus and the Olive Tree was insightful. > >> >> > >> >>Have you been watching the geo-political moves with China? I think > >> >>Taiwan is going to be made a scapegoat for China's near bankrupt > >> >>economy... and speaking of collapsing economies, Japan isn't in > >> >>great shape either. > >> > > >> >'Makes you feel so 'good! > >> > >> hej dushar, stuff it up your ass > > > >What feels 'good to you may not feel good to 'me! > > HA! Heh From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 16:23:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ALNT0m017281 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:23:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:23:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DE73A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 17:23:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:23:29 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ALNSxB030181 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:23:29 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16035065 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:44:39 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:23:48 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:23:50 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <56678719.20050410152350@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <42591B37.7030004@maynor.net> References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091536363c3f87@mail.gmail.com> <42585AB8.6050404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040915474c4be8ec@mail.gmail.com> <42585CAA.7000408@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916023e896bd3@mail.gmail.com> <425860FB.9030002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504091612750c7862@mail.gmail.com> <4258624F.8080007@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705040916306eb9a57f@mail.gmail.com> <42586C0F.20606@maynor.net> <724085353.20050409214409@gailndan.com> <42591B37.7030004@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 159, in=55466, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/10/2005, 6:25 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>NM> When was the cure discovered? I know I've read it but can't remember. >> >>I believe it was sulfa drugs in the 30s or 40s, thus the very few left >>still living at Kalaupapa. >> >> NM> Why was there still a whole leper colony in Louisiana in the mid '60s? Same reason as Kaulapapa. Some of the people are very disfigured, have lived there their entire lives, and don't want to leave. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 17:17:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AMHH0m021192 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:17:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:17:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE64E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 18:17:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:17:17 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AMHGoC002849 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:17:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.82]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050410221716.HLAX2549.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:17:16 -0400 Message-ID: <4259A5E7.5040902@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:17:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rossini Festival References: <42586020.1080107@maynor.net> <42586220.9060603@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410062534.025feeb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410062534.025feeb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: >> http://maynor.net/Temp/CDFest/ > > That looks great! Not too crowded either. Sometimes those events aren't > enjoyable because of crowds. Tis a small town. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 17:22:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AMMG0m021425 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:22:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:22:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE760@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 18:22:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:22:15 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AMMFOv003410 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:22:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.82]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050410222215.HMNK2549.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:22:15 -0400 Message-ID: <4259A713.4080603@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:22:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Haunted Church References: <425920CC.1020704@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > Back in the spring of 1996, when I was first constructing the Political > Graveyard web site, I came across Findagrave, which Jim was building at > the same time. I discovered it only a few months ago. So far I haven't found any dead ancestors there except for the ones I've put there myself, but I've enjoyed contributing to it. When I started doing things like submitting the "cover shots" for some of the cemeteries, I realized that I should probably get a better camera. But I haven't yet. The picture I submitted yesterday for Beth Israel Cemetery doesn't show the date on the gate very clearly. It could be misread as 1960 rather than 1860. Anyway, I like submitting grave pictures because I like the feeling of adding to a -- adding something that maybe somebody somewhere someday will find useful. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 17:54:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3AMsl0m023888 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:54:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:54:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DE8AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 18:54:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:54:46 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3AMskNd006022 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:54:46 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 93034440 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:54:45 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:54:46 -0700 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Natalie/your hotel in SF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's perfect! I sent some photos. You can walk to Lefty O'Doul's where Wordslers have met in the past and have a hearty lunch and good beer. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 18:16:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ANG20m026204 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:16:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:16:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE861@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 19:16:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:16:02 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ANG1PK008249 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:16:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.82]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050410231601.ICAK2549.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:16:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:15:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > It's perfect! I sent some photos. And I just looked at them, and I'm INSPIRED! > You can walk to Lefty O'Doul's where Wordslers have met in the past and > have a hearty lunch and good beer. And I'm going to be meeting Mylesykins way up in the sky the night of the 12th. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 18:36:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ANaP0m028188 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:36:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:36:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE794@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 19:36:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:36:25 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ANaOaj010032 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:36:24 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 93040361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:36:23 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:36:23 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:15 PM 4/10/2005, you wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>It's perfect! I sent some photos. > >And I just looked at them, and I'm INSPIRED! > >>You can walk to Lefty O'Doul's where Wordslers have met in the past and >>have a hearty lunch and good beer. > >And I'm going to be meeting Mylesykins way up in the sky the night of >the 12th. Six and one half blocks-uphill! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 19:08:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B08i0m031058 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:08:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:08:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE8FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 20:08:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:08:43 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B08h85012790 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:08:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.82]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411000843.SRJS2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:08:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:08:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: >> And I'm going to be meeting Mylesykins way up in the sky the night of >> the 12th. > > Six and one half blocks-uphill! I keep forgetting about the hills. Is the BART station uphill or downhill? And how did you get that info about airport shuttle cost -- did you have with the people working in the hotel? And speaking of transportation, now that we know where I'm going to be staying, what does it say about my Pinole plans? When AnnBork and I were communicating, I had thought I'd probably be staying near Fisherman's Wharf. And what about weather? I was thinking about that just yesterday -- thinking about how I had put away all of my winter clothes for the year but had forgotten about the fact that SF is usually cold. How cold? I have no clothes -- just summer and winter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 19:15:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B0Fl0m031720 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:15:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:15:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE90A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 20:15:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:15:47 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B05lAx012623 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:05:47 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3B05gjw016742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:05:42 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:05:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: re: Rossini Festival Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natallie: >You should make plans to visit Starkville for the Cotton District Arts >Festival. Actually, Market Square on Sunday afternoon is almost as good as the Rossini Festival was. There were no street musicians today as I ate lunch outdoors at the Tomato Head, but there were many people and much entertainment, some from children, who were entertaining us at a small water display. If Preservation Pub had been open, we would soon have moved there, but they still open late - 3 on Sunday, I think. There are many food and drink venues there now - and usually at least one competent guitarist. Again, we had perfect weather - sunny, 70s. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 19:35:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B0Z10m000470 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:35:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:35:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE95D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 20:35:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 27934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:35:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B0Z1RP015430 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:35:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1407836wri for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.10.54 with SMTP id 54mr695674wrj; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:35:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lbESHdsFsATAAvtEIt6zfdfBX8AQBgjjhUAzyJW4i+8PkzX23OVjKOwaiLqpImI6NzxmMvlMlwef4OlNazOjbz4uxivS5cq73A1QH1pqCjMY2S1niKIxNy5eyhd5nASAvD2aZSIcpF9ia9o/md40tDpctkjzErhcIS1qpOs9Cgc= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:35:00 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rashmi In-Reply-To: <200504101437.j3AEbViU030554@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504101437.j3AEbViU030554@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3B0Z10m000470 Happy belated, Rashmeeber!! Hope it was good. Marie On Apr 10, 2005 10:37 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Bleated Happy bday. > err, um. > belated. > This bday thing is getting tricky. Who's supposed > to take the lead on this? Come on, people. Step up > here. We can't have disorganization. Next thing > you know there'll be phatic drivel leaking out > everywhere - on tv, in gov't, at cafe's... > Aaagh! > clo > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 19:35:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B0Zj0m000524 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:35:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:35:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF98EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 20:35:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 27989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:35:45 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B0Zi7j015504; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:35:45 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 93047897; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:35:43 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:35:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:08 PM 4/10/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>>And I'm going to be meeting Mylesykins way up in the sky the night of >>>the 12th. >> >> Six and one half blocks-uphill! > >I keep forgetting about the hills. Is the BART station uphill or >downhill? And how did you get that info about airport shuttle cost -- >did you have with the people working in the hotel? Uphill from BART to hotel but you can jump on the cable car for $2 when you get off at Powell Street. You might want to just pay the $12 for the shuttle if you have big luggage. Yes, I talked to the very nice doorman and saw a sign posted as well. I also talked to a nice looking gentleman sitting in the intimate bar area using his laptop. He was the one who told me that Wi-Fi was available in the bar area but not in the rooms. >And speaking of transportation, now that we know where I'm going to be >staying, what does it say about my Pinole plans? When AnnBork and I >were communicating, I had thought I'd probably be staying near >Fisherman's Wharf. Various options here. I wonder where Elwood is staying? You get to San Francisco, we'll get you to Pinole and back to San Francisco. >And what about weather? I was thinking about that just yesterday -- >thinking about how I had put away all of my winter clothes for the year >but had forgotten about the fact that SF is usually cold. How cold? I >have no clothes -- just summer and winter. It can vary. I was very comfortable in just a long sleeved shirt today but you'll want some kind of wind breaker or sweatshirt. Check your weather url. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 19:39:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B0dJ0m000952 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:39:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:39:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DEA2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 20:39:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:39:19 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B0dIx2015841 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:39:18 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1408377wri for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.57 with SMTP id 57mr1523904wrz; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:39:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QAXoI7yeAFNcJVoxIgO3n0/QZzdnIxL4kc5O9SU7KmFPtt6+nwUWV558Qtap2hjLKgDzYG9Pzwu5PBuTxB7w++aUXr49xQn2SckVzEZeCnaoTX9hr90+oIhZ6kAb+3FSZZuDI9mD2PZyvTxu2RCqg9M/2wWkqrF2lUJFml8wpzI= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:39:17 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Marie In-Reply-To: <425812E5.6070004@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425812E5.6070004@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3B0dJ0m000952 Can't read any words. But I guess you mean the big white squarish thing there. Very exciting. I've done nothing with Bruce's family's genealogy. He is completely uninterested. So I have no idea whether Joseph is an ancester/relative. Maybe some day Jade and Mel will be interested. Marie On Apr 9, 2005 1:37 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > The big Ascher marker is visible to the left in this picture: > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=57969 > > I did take a picture of one of the Ascher graves, but it mainly showed > my shadow. The sun was being ornery. Thus, I won't be submitting that > picture to Find-a-Grave. The grave was that of Joseph Ascher, b.Alsace, > 22 May 1855, d. Jackson, 15 December 1932. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 20:11:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B1BJ0m004995 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:11:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:11:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DEA66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 21:01:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:01:45 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B11iPg018027 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:01:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.109]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411010144.CIPF1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:01:44 -0400 Message-ID: <4259CC73.40706@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:01:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rashmi References: <200504101437.j3AEbViU030554@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >Happy belated, Rashmeeber!! Hope it was good. > > Yes! But are you reading us, Rashmi? Speak! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 20:11:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B1BJ0m004994 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:11:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:11:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE8A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 21:01:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:01:18 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B11IHf018004 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:01:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.109]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411010118.CIJU1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:01:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4259CC59.5090306@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:01:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rossini Festival References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Again, we had perfect weather - sunny, 70s. > > It was gorgeous again here also. The only bad thing about this time of year is that the azaleas, which were spectacularly beautiful a couple of weeks ago, are now into their ugly stage. That's the bad thing about azaleas. There's the beautiful burst followed by ugliness. I was not outside much today, though, because I was doing stuff. I went to forum and service as usual this morning, then the potluck lunch, then ran home and let Spencer out, then back at church from 2 until 4 for the Roots meeting -- a series of three meetings for newcomers. It was fun. In addition to six of us newbies, there were the part-time minister and three old-time members. We went around the table telling what led us to the UU Church. The stories were interesting in that they were different but also similar -- different experiences and backgrounds and but similar general philosophies. The common thread in every story was, "And when I came here, I knew that this was the place for me." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 20:11:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B1BJ0m004990 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:11:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:11:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DEA73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 21:11:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:11:04 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B1B4GV019054 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:11:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.109]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411011104.CMAI1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:11:04 -0400 Message-ID: <4259CEA3.9000902@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:10:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Marie References: <425812E5.6070004@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >Can't read any words. But I guess you mean the big white squarish thing >there. > > Yes -- the big white squarish thing. I do need to get a better camera. The "Ascher" is quite clear when driving along the street -- farther away than I was when I took that picture. >Very exciting. I've done nothing with Bruce's family's genealogy. He is >completely >uninterested. So I have no idea whether Joseph is an ancester/relative. > Maybe some day Jade and Mel will be interested. > > I was completely uninterested in mine until well into my fifties. Wish I'd asked more questions earlier of people now dead who might have had some clues to give me. But then it's also fun to manage to discover things that I thought at the beginning were going to remain mysteries forever -- like the tons of stuff I've discovered about my Stanley/Donoho ancestors. I just wish I could have told Daddy about it. Even though he never made any genealogical efforts, I do think he would have been very much interested in my various findings about his ancestors. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 20:11:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B1BJ0m004993 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:11:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:11:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE9AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 21:06:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:06:43 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B16h6j018648 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:06:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.109]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411010642.CKIQ1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:06:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:06:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Uphill from BART to hotel but you can jump on the cable car for $2 when > you get off at Powell Street. You might want to just pay the $12 for the > shuttle if you have big luggage. I think I will do the shuttle. Although I don't think I'll have really big luggage, that sounds like a small price to pay for the convenience. > Yes, I talked to the very nice doorman and saw a sign posted as well. I > also talked to a nice looking gentleman sitting in the intimate bar area > using his laptop. He was the one who told me that Wi-Fi was available in > the bar area but not in the rooms. I think I had read that about the wirelessness in the and just modem plugs in the rooms. But I read about so many different SF hotels that I can't remember now which was which. Will review the info again before departure. > Various options here. I wonder where Elwood is staying? You get to San > Francisco, we'll get you to Pinole and back to San Francisco. Sounds like a wiener to me! > It can vary. I was very comfortable in just a long sleeved shirt today > but > you'll want some kind of wind breaker or sweatshirt. Check your > weather url. Long sleeves? That's the stuff I've put away until next winter. Do you think it will be ls weather in May? I guess so since you mentioned windbreaker/sweatshirt. Iow, the weather will be winter weather, not summer weather. I have only those two categories. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 20:18:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B1IM0m005658 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:18:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:18:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE8D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 21:18:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:18:20 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B1IKxe019989 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:18:20 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 93053607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:18:19 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410181611.02aff900@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:18:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Long sleeves? That's the stuff I've put away until next winter. Do you >think it will be ls weather in May? I guess so since you mentioned >windbreaker/sweatshirt. Iow, the weather will be winter weather, not >summer weather. I have only those two categories. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, in San Francisco you need long sleeves or at least layers. Think 65 average. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 20:32:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B1WX0m006768 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:32:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:32:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DE9E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 21:22:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:22:32 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B1MW5g020381 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:22:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.109]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411012232.YHOW2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:22:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4259D153.2060101@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:22:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410181611.02aff900@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410181611.02aff900@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Yes, in San Francisco you need long sleeves or at least layers. Think 65 > average. And 65 is my dividing line between summer and winter clothes. . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 20:32:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B1WX0m006769 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:32:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:32:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DEAC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 21:29:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 30146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:28:59 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B1Sx2N021208 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:28:59 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 93054815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:28:57 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410182833.02ade130@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:28:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <4259D153.2060101@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410181611.02aff900@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259D153.2060101@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:22 PM 4/10/2005, you wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>Yes, in San Francisco you need long sleeves or at least layers. Think 65 >>average. > >And 65 is my dividing line between summer and winter clothes. . You will be cold here. Bring long sleeves. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 20:57:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B1v30m010023 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:57:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:57:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DEA50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 21:57:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:57:03 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B1v2t8025036 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:57:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.109]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411015702.UCLM2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:57:02 -0400 Message-ID: <4259D964.3040400@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:56:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410181611.02aff900@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259D153.2060101@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410182833.02ade130@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410182833.02ade130@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > You will be cold here. Bring long sleeves. That means sweaters, which is ok except that my favorite two both have rips in them. When I recently put them away for the summer, I said to myself that I would deal with the rip problem next year -- that I did not want to say goodbye to those two favorite sweaters and that I would somehow figure out how to mend the rips. (The rips are where the collar -- sort of floppy turtle-neck style -- meets the rest of the sweater. The sweaters are twins except for color -- one is a brownish color and one a burgundyish color.) I'll have to study the situation and see what I can do. In a way it's easy to pack winter clothes since I can pack my two pairs of almost-identical black skinny corduroy pants, those two sweaters of two different colors, and black socks and clogs. That will take care of two of my three days -- or more than two actually. I've been known to repeat those costumes on a trip. The good thing about those pants and sweaters is that they can go pretty much anywhere. I've worn them to somewhat dressy parties (by Starkville standards -- they would not be dressy enough in Jackson -- I wore them to an event before xmas that was said to be casual, and I was the most underdressed person present -- but that's ok -- that event involved the kind of people in my old Jackson life of years ago, as opposed to the new life I'm creating full of more Starkville-like people). Anyway, I think I can figure this out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 20:59:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B1xf0m010105 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:59:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 20:59:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE95F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 21:59:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:59:40 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B1xeJw025247 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:59:40 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005041101593901100g09uve>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 01:59:40 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Rashmi Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:59:34 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4259CC73.40706@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yes! But are you reading us, Rashmi? Speak! She's not, as far as I know. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 21:12:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B2C70m011607 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:12:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:12:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DEA74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 22:03:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:03:13 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B23DiR025551 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:03:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.109]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411020313.UEZC2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:03:13 -0400 Message-ID: <4259DADC.2090705@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:03:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rashmi References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>Yes! But are you reading us, Rashmi? Speak! >> >> > >She's not, as far as I know. > > But you wouldn't necessarily know since she has said that she has read the archives for years now instead of subbing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 21:12:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B2C70m011605 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:12:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:12:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE96D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 22:02:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:02:07 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B227MV025455 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:02:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.109]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411020207.UEJU2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:02:07 -0400 Message-ID: <4259DA9A.8030608@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:02:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410181611.02aff900@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259D153.2060101@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410182833.02ade130@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259D964.3040400@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4259D964.3040400@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The favorite sweaters and black skinny corduroy pants on previous trips: The reddish sweater in Spain: http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/Spain/johnnat.jpg The brownish sweater, twin of the reddish sweater, in its last wearing of this year -- just recently in Starkville, when I decided to get one more wearing of a winter in before declaring it summer: http://maynor.net/Temp/March/14.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 21:19:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B2JV0m012429 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:19:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:19:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DEB84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 22:19:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:19:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B2JVSY027490 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:19:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so432016nzp for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.11 with SMTP id a11mr167220nzc; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:19:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TNe4WEqcIY1ZJ3HLLobx8iM+raTTAlLxcIOcZPlDzd12r1zwF6FkavKVCKnlJUw08jwQNtBHT1AdKvSJXQClyVak49+JqXFamcn+ctvZ2lJMFUDj8QR/jPUf8GXWwIcb6SgJmzeq914Xe3aWam2Yfj27w7kEsfgJnvOrX331c98= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041019194e40186@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:19:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <200504110202.j3B22Ol7010769@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504110202.j3B22Ol7010769@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3B2JV0m012429 On Apr 10, 2005 9:02 PM, Joan Boorstein wrote: > > Natalie, I concur in what Betty says. San Francisco never gets what you > would > call summer weather. > That's not strictly true. I remember taking the bus from Berkeley once, when I was staying with my grandmother after coming back from two years in Hawaii. I was meeting a friend from grad school who lived in SF. I brought a sweater with me, as usual, but it was REALLY HOT. Hotter than it had been in Hawaii. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 21:22:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B2MQ0m012676 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:22:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:22:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EF9B06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 22:12:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:12:25 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B22Os2025491 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:02:24 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j3B22Ol7010769 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:02:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200504110202.j3B22Ol7010769@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > It can vary. I was very comfortable in just a long sleeved shirt today but > > you'll want some kind of wind breaker or sweatshirt. Check your > > weather url. > > Long sleeves? That's the stuff I've put away until next winter. Do you > think it will be ls weather in May? I guess so since you mentioned > windbreaker/sweatshirt. Iow, the weather will be winter weather, not > summer weather. I have only those two categories. Natalie, I concur in what Betty says. San Francisco never gets what you would call summer weather. I suspect that you're likely to call it 'cold' --- and it is frequently windy (like out on the bay, near the bay, walking downtown amongst the tall buildings) --- you'll want a windbreaker at the very least and maybe even a sweatshirt. Believe us natives ... even if I've not lived there since high school ... Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 21:23:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B2NS0m012766 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:23:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:23:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DE9D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Apr 2005 22:23:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:23:27 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B2NRKl027769 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:23:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.109]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411022327.JPDU4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:23:27 -0400 Message-ID: <4259DF9A.9090205@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:23:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <200504110202.j3B22Ol7010769@math.umb.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504110202.j3B22Ol7010769@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan Boorstein wrote: >Natalie, I concur in what Betty says. San Francisco never gets what you would >call summer weather. I suspect that you're likely to call it 'cold' --- and >it is frequently windy (like out on the bay, near the bay, walking downtown >amongst the tall buildings) --- you'll want a windbreaker at the very least >and maybe even a sweatshirt. > > Yes. That is what my sudden thinking was yesterday(?) when I started remembering that on my few trips to SF, at different times of year, the weather seemed the same -- that it's always cold there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 10 23:28:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3B4S30m022358 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:28:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:28:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DF00E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 0:18:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 00:17:52 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3B40pNV006228 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 00:00:51 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 5BDCDBE8BF; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB07C2849 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:00:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And speaking of transportation, now that we know where I'm going to be > staying, what does it say about my Pinole plans? When AnnBork and I > were communicating, I had thought I'd probably be staying near > Fisherman's Wharf. I still offer the possibility of picking you up at the ferry landing in Larkspur - you would pick it up at the end of Market Street, at the SF Ferry building. Then, you could either get a ride back to the Larkspur ferry, or you could get a ride back by BART. So, you have choices - this is just to say that the ferry choice is still open to you if you choose - if you don't choose, we'll see you at the party itself, no problem, I will pick you out of the drunken loutish crowd and we'll drink to the unemployed everywhere. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 05:26:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BAQJ0m016336 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:26:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:26:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DF62C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 4:14:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:14:43 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3B8Egx7025045 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:14:43 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041110130811494 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:13:08 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:41 +0200 Message-ID: <425A31F1.9000205@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:41 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rashmi References: <200504101437.j3AEbViU030554@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504101437.j3AEbViU030554@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2005 08:14:41.0943 (UTC) FILETIME=[83429270:01C53E6E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And HB from me! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 05:26:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BAQJ0m016337 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:26:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:26:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DF5E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 3:56:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 03:56:16 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3B7u5Zw024008 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 03:56:05 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041109543011399 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:54:30 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:56:03 +0200 Message-ID: <425A2D93.3000101@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:56:03 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DST and all that References: <83db447a050408170058510d5b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050408170058510d5b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2005 07:56:03.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8C5D830:01C53E6B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander skrev 09.04.2005 02:00: >For the first time since DST started this spring, it was worth it. The day, >starting rather chilly, warmed rapidly into the mid to high 50s (F). After >the past couple of days of clouds and intermittent rain showers, the sky was >clear; this evening, the contrails of the transAtlantic flights were sharply >visible. > > Saturday surprised us all - including the meteorologists, I expect - by giving us cold, clear weather. Cold, but in the sun it actually got warm. And, surprise, surprise we went out with our boat. Since it doesn't have a logg, I have been running some measured distances with different RPMs to get a basic idea about our speed. So far I have found: - at about 1375 RPM: 5.4 knots - at about 1500 RPM 6.0 knots - at about 1700 RPM 6.5 knots We have had the engine running at about 2200 RPM in calm weather, and I will test it for distance and time, but my guesstimate is that we might force Agia Anna aginst her will up to something between 7 and 7.5 knots but her built in maximum (given her length) is probably somewhere between 6.5 and 7 knots. This means that things take their time, and we have to have time for that. On Saturday the weather was so nice, so we went further than we had planned when we paid for parking, and so it started to become important that we would catch a given ferry back from the island where or boat stays. The final part of the home trip is within a 5 knots speed limit, so whatever our boat can do wouldn't have gotten us any faster in. But we tried to prepare averything for a quick landing: packed our bags etc. and just as we turned into the harbour we put out the fenders - only one of them was put a little too far out: the wrong hook was inhooked and the fender offered to the sea gods. I hope somebody found it and found a use for it - we had a reserve. And then everything went according to plan: we caught the ferry, got to our car while it was still legally parked, and I understood why I could only find one set of car keys in my backpack: the other set was still in the car. Luckily our car doesn't look like it is worth stealing or that it has anything inside worth stealing. > Almost all of the snow is now gone. Even on Cadillac, the patches of ice on >the sheltered northeastern slopes have markedly dwindled. ANP has >temporarily closed the carriage roads---to protect them during the period of >thaw. The peregrine falcons are nesting again at the three major spots, > > Yesterday we walked down along the main river in Oslo and saw mallards do something I have never seen before: they dived and swam under water. They behaved like diving ducks like eiders for instance. One reason may have been that these diving mallards were young (I guess) males in search of female ducks: there seemed to be quite a lot of hormones involved in much of the action we saw down along the river. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 05:39:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BAd50m018439 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:39:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:39:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DF74E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 6:39:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:39:05 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BAd4jA002398 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:39:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.125]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411103904.JAVH2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:39:04 -0400 Message-ID: <425A53BC.2030604@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:38:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: >I still offer the possibility of picking you up at the ferry landing in >Larkspur - you would pick it up at the end of Market Street, at the SF >Ferry building. Then, you could either get a ride back to the Larkspur >ferry, or you could get a ride back by BART. > >So, you have choices - this is just to say that the ferry choice is still >open to you if you choose - if you don't choose, we'll see you at the >party itself, no problem, I will pick you out of the drunken loutish crowd >and we'll drink to the unemployed everywhere. > > This all sounds good. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 06:39:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BBdi0m024419 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:39:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:39:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EFAD7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 7:39:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:39:44 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BBTiqm029970 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:29:44 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3BBTcAD032017 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:29:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:29:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: HB, Karen - Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU - and many happy returns! (Maria says hi.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 07:37:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BCan0m031705 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:36:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:37:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFAF64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 8:26:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 74080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:26:49 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BCQmCH003110 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:26:48 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:26:48 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:26:29 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: interesting article Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on the history of the potato in Europe http://tinyurl.com/5doe7 BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 07:37:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BCan0m031707 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:36:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:37:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFAF4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 8:29:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 74378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:29:00 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BCSx1x003367 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:29:00 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-132.gwi.net [216.195.165.132]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3BCSt0o069587; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:28:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050411081910.01bd9ea8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:28:53 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: DST and all that In-Reply-To: <425A2D93.3000101@gmail.com> References: <83db447a050408170058510d5b@mail.gmail.com> <425A2D93.3000101@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:56 AM 4/11/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >Yesterday we walked down along the main river in Oslo and saw mallards >do something I have never seen before: they dived and swam under water. >They behaved like diving ducks like eiders for instance. One reason may >have been that these diving mallards were young (I guess) males in >search of female ducks: there seemed to be quite a lot of hormones >involved in much of the action we saw down along the river. I've never seen that. I have seen mallards stand on their heads in the water to feed on submerged plants and I've seen mallard ducklings dive to avoid danger (e.g., an approaching rowing shell). It definitely is the testosterone season for birds... ...and for other species. During our walk through Great Meadow on Saturday---a beautiful sunny day, in the mid-50s F---we heard two large, separate groups of frogs raising a din. The two areas---both large "puddles" now, owing to the rain and snow melt---were in different areas of wetland, one open, one forested. I'm not "up" on frog calls but I'm pretty sure that the two groups were different species. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 07:37:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BCan0m031708 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:36:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:37:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EFB008@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 8:33:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:33:47 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BCXkiN003912 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:33:46 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041114321113830 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:32:11 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:33:45 +0200 Message-ID: <425A6EA8.3070009@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:33:44 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, Karen - References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2005 12:33:45.0076 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3B07340:01C53E92] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas skrev 11.04.2005 13:29: >- and many happy returns! (Maria says hi.) > >Bethany > > > And Happy Birthday from Oslo - I don't know if Columbus says hi, but I am sure he would have done if I had mentioned your birthday! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 07:52:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BCpw0m001083 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:52:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:52:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DFC92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 8:51:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:51:58 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BCpvNt007022 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:51:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so1965811wri for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.55.61 with SMTP id d61mr2252842wra; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.6 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:51:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TZW4/oFmb5q+g4WzZry/OX/cOr+f/aLxhG8rBUHnaYVmWMPtNynUinwXZtw0AE9QF/wJDt7uky7YVcpZb4e0QNEdw9Xzyn3Ugs4Enf7UFfoCUti5o4tmPhuKZcGxYxdKlsE4zPCZGzlxwXHlW3Bfy2qvfcdvYD/zJVpPGWmP6Gs= Message-ID: <44dce1c105041105514f649d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:51:56 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: H.B. ET In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041009034de7eae7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200504101433.j3AEXaLf030284@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705041009034de7eae7@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A very Happy Birthday Karen - May you have a happy, healthy, and prosperous year! Terry On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:03:48 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Thanks to you and Natalie, too. > > I'm going to celebrate by going to work. > > On Apr 10, 2005 9:33 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > > On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:26:03 -0400, Paul Barfoot > wrote: > > > > >:-) > > > > > >The real day at last > > > > > >BrP > > > > YaY! > > Happy Bday, Karen! > > clo > > > > > > -- > Karen > "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- > Andy Goldsworthy > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 07:58:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BCwo0m001940 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:58:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:58:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DFDB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 8:58:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:58:49 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BCwnXF008117 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:58:49 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16012491 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:04:38 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:59:08 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:27:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 164, in=66386, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/10/2005, 7:06 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Long sleeves? That's the stuff I've put away until next winter. Do you NM> think it will be ls weather in May? I guess so since you mentioned NM> windbreaker/sweatshirt. Iow, the weather will be winter weather, not NM> summer weather. I have only those two categories. Yes, winter in your terms. There is NO season of the year in SF when you may not need a sweater, sweatshirt, etc, at least in the evening. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 08:06:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BD6d0m003084 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:06:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:06:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DFD2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:06:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 78758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:06:38 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BD6cKp009667 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:06:38 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2593998wra for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.81.8 with SMTP id e8mr1393039wrb; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.6 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kDKAvMTSpkTFIeweTomlXJ12MKeRPWEZLGtrX2BiKfLaWK3tm/My6RSu+8PL5klYo8MM+Q7PM+5rm0/kpVi6udH6eadKrpAip4T6F921N4j10QTlNO4Q291Osi2pmxr8dyyHD9Cjcezb3TuDRA6yxMtFl1GFkayXGvCAnKgIUyc= Message-ID: <44dce1c105041106062291a030@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:06:36 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rashmi In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4259CC73.40706@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy birthday, Rashmi! We can assume she's not busy unpacking! Terry On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:59:34 -0400, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Yes! But are you reading us, Rashmi? Speak! > > She's not, as far as I know. > > --Adam > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 08:44:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BDia0m006195 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:44:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:44:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DFE9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:44:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 83401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:44:36 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BDiZRC017221 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:44:36 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1539040wri for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.16.39 with SMTP id 39mr386701wrp; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:44:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Bvp9hJAdTrvTEmhBPc6ZA1xAMishSWtINxG1foroO6LhCp6GN3gOP4tj9mTupMHFMCOjXvI3FSzRW/4dJ7MUpOZ4kPZvI2wLD7RvlFIhRYKpETIGrav1rUqaSeIJzz44hqk+tO0W0tDFONemIiGTKHZYtuRM6oSxCXswzupYMDc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:44:35 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, Karen - In-Reply-To: <425A6EA8.3070009@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425A6EA8.3070009@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BDia0m006195 Happy birthday from me, too! -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 08:46:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BDk00m006306 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:46:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:46:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFB373@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:46:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 83528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BDjrLi017475 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1539366wri for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.24.49 with SMTP id 49mr5049536wrx; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:45:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YPs0J9UZY1nFQeHF9+JOBO8zv3+PQUz6npxW2HhxwgujXbAlRyGs08AW0MoEhqYxeNmg6Zg/fkUD0Ag8zIhVU4Mfn3goYJCMKgosgAlls4iRpB9xZecgexDxMCB8VNcS81dnkOT7DBmUCmHziXYKJPGmvd7p3tN9nUGPGDQ+aCg= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:45:52 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: New pictures! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BDk00m006306 I know I'm annoying, but I can't help it! The tub pictures and those right after are particularly CUTE! http://marieascher.nymc.edu (Early Spring 2005) -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 08:48:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BDmD0m006442 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:48:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:48:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DFEAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:47:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 83644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:47:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BDluTl017746 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:47:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1367158wra for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.33 with SMTP id x33mr1978008wrx; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:47:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Aserf48Ls9S9TkSFUGE8+u5Pcf4w2IWzMwhfepP26ylJFdjyI6KgyolxmIcmbeuY0cb0zhW0LtQAxoV7Mznx0ERWiQl5SUPJGOOf/kvhRIxXAhERS05vtLSdPaEqvu0/l7Lp48U1lkRj9aBWVCLRZd26PtJX5vlWLtcmbRv6vSA= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:47:55 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz In-Reply-To: <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BDmD0m006442 There's at least one leper on words-l. Marie On Apr 9, 2005 7:36 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > bonniemaev wrote: > > >>How many lepers are there in the US? > >>-- Natalie > >> > >> > > > > 540 > > > > > Way low. Maybe it's time to give the multiple-choice options that were > given on the radio: 3,000, 30,000, 300,000. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 08:48:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BDmO0m006467 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:48:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:48:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EFB3D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:48:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 83710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:48:23 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BDmN66017860 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:48:23 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.180] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.180] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 87018456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:48:23 -0400 Message-ID: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:48:22 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New pictures! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >I know I'm annoying, but I can't help it! > The tub pictures and those right after are particularly CUTE! > http://marieascher.nymc.edu (Early Spring 2005) > > Marie, I could use some "CUTE" right now but am getting a "not found" on this link. Rita L. P.S. My sister-in-law is expecting twins. We will learn the gender this week if they cooperate for the From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 08:49:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BDnX0m006539 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:49:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:49:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DFDB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:49:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 83789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:49:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BDnVMt018063 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:49:32 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1540443wri for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.73 with SMTP id x73mr2020616wrx; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:49:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=etqZOC8O7hJIB/C9ajEIwTMDB9H3IBVzONnPvyAYU1x69/9RvGH7ekfmWesQIRG5QldWrC02EQQ/OMd3x/8HAEQVMbh6ealtgr5mVsLeflY8NQORJLVzHWPcuLWWuOIw5/T04Tmvp2t4yv38t8Tt6mhBNmyk0hglikKmjhub7Lg= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:49:31 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New pictures! In-Reply-To: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BDnX0m006539 Wow, that's a weird typo -- I worked my work URL into my fotopic URL... The correct URL: http://marieascher.fotopic.net . Sorry! On Apr 11, 2005 10:48 AM, Rita Leonard wrote: > > Marieber Meeber wrote: > > >I know I'm annoying, but I can't help it! > > The tub pictures and those right after are particularly CUTE! > > http://marieascher.nymc.edu (Early Spring 2005) > > > > > Marie, I could use some "CUTE" right now but am getting a "not found" on > this link. > > Rita L. > P.S. My sister-in-law is expecting twins. We will learn the gender this > week if they cooperate for the > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 08:52:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BDq90m006663 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:52:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:52:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005DFF87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:52:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 83928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:52:09 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BDq7n6018539 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:52:08 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041115503214879 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:50:33 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:51:39 +0200 Message-ID: <425A80EB.7060006@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:51:39 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New pictures! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2005 13:51:39.0708 (UTC) FILETIME=[95FCAFC0:01C53E9D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber skrev 11.04.2005 15:45: >I know I'm annoying, but I can't help it! > The tub pictures and those right after are particularly CUTE! > http://marieascher.nymc.edu (Early Spring 2005) > > > Could not be found, please check the name again. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 08:54:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BDsK0m006901 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:54:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:54:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFB3AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 9:54:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 84036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:54:20 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BDsJYV018838 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:54:20 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3BDs8M7020358 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:54:19 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3BDqJCA026038 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:52:20 -0400 Message-ID: <03a801c53e9d$ada8b6f0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Whaaa! Whaaa! Whaaa!... Wachusett!!! Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:52:17 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 'Had a great day yesterday with the kids... we drove up to Wachusett, where they had closed a few weeks ago, and in the those three weeks, they picked up a lot of new snow... their base depth was something like 42". The trails hadn't been beaten up for a few weeks, and they had new snow... so... they had a wicked idea: they would open for a one day end-of-season blast, yesterday: Spring snowboarding at its best. 'A great time. I'm pleasantly sunburnt... (So must be the girls who were skiing in bikinis) $2 double black angus burgers from the smoke-billowing outdoor grill (can't you just smell it!)... $1 beers (They were emptying their refrigerators!) They had a decent band out on the deck playing Bonnie Raitt, Stevie Ray Vaughn, et al... Yes, all of us nuts who think sliding down a snow covered mountain at breakneck speeds on various contrivances... well, we know what fun is, and we think it's fine. Season-end parties are wicked fun. Toward the end of the day, some kids built a jump, right in front of the deck at the lodge, and it attracted every nut on the hill (except Lil and me; we were busy dancing up a storm). William had to try it; after all, he *is* a nut. The crowd on the deck, now worn out after a full day of playing in the Sun, were all relaxing to food, libation, and music, and were cheering each of these nuts, who quickly learned that they'd get more applause, proportionately, with the craziness of their stunt ;-) So, of course, they had to get into water landings... 'Definitely a good time. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 09:04:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BE4V0m008040 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:04:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:04:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DFF4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:04:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:04:30 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BE4TYk020831 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:04:30 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041116025415037 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:02:55 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:04:27 +0200 Message-ID: <425A83EB.8040205@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:04:27 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New pictures! References: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2005 14:04:27.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[5FD03550:01C53E9F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber skrev 11.04.2005 15:49: >Wow, that's a weird typo -- I worked my work URL into my fotopic URL... > The correct URL: http://marieascher.fotopic.net . > Sorry! > > Very nice, cute etc. I especially liked DSCF0650.jpg. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 09:07:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BE7Z0m008305 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:07:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:07:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DFE61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:07:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:07:35 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BE7WEw021345 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:07:34 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.180] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.180] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 87020715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:07:30 -0400 Message-ID: <425A84A1.8040200@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:07:29 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New pictures! References: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> <425A83EB.8040205@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <425A83EB.8040205@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > Very nice, cute etc. I especially liked DSCF0650.jpg. > > Espen Yes, I love the entire series. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 09:14:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BEEH0m008845 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:14:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:14:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005DFF95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 86143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:17 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BEEGeS022715 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:16 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:16 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:06 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: New pictures! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great pictures! Thanks. They look very happy- and it seems less and less alike as they get older. I love those bath seats - wish we'd had those when my kids were little. BrP >>> marieber@GMAIL.COM 4/11/2005 9:49:31 AM >>> Wow, that's a weird typo -- I worked my work URL into my fotopic URL... The correct URL: http://marieascher.fotopic.net . Sorry! On Apr 11, 2005 10:48 AM, Rita Leonard wrote: > > Marieber Meeber wrote: > > >I know I'm annoying, but I can't help it! > > The tub pictures and those right after are particularly CUTE! > > http://marieascher.nymc.edu (Early Spring 2005) > > > > > Marie, I could use some "CUTE" right now but am getting a "not found" on > this link. > > Rita L. > P.S. My sister-in-law is expecting twins. We will learn the gender this > week if they cooperate for the > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 09:14:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BEEk0m008888 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:14:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:14:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E005C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 86229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:45 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BEEiGU022857 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:45 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041116131015201 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:13:10 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:14:43 +0200 Message-ID: <425A8653.9070805@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:14:43 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New pictures! References: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> <425A83EB.8040205@gmail.com> <425A84A1.8040200@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <425A84A1.8040200@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2005 14:14:43.0668 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEE43940:01C53EA0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard skrev 11.04.2005 16:07: > Espen S. Ore wrote: > >> Very nice, cute etc. I especially liked DSCF0650.jpg. >> >> Espen > > > Yes, I love the entire series. > Yes, and in number two in the series everyone except or Marie is occupied with something else, she is the only one who registers the camera, and in addition it looks as if she is in complete control of the situation. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 09:20:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BEKg0m009542 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:20:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:20:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DFED1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:20:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 86844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:20:41 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BEKfrv024085 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:20:41 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:20:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:20:13 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: unexpected hazards in the interface of wardrobe and technology Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The automatic-flush urinals in the library apparently are activated by changes in light intensity. I am wearing a mostly black t-shirt with white writing and the poor thing was confused about whether someone was standing there or not. I was surprised by a mid-pee flush. Fortunately, I was not standing so close that it got me wet. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 09:24:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BEON0m009865 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:24:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:24:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DFEE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:24:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:24:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BEOMij024734 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:24:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2617895wra for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.37 with SMTP id 37mr2144319wru; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:24:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hf3mZqnrVZDW2UTGHxxmNPW7LQUacfse32ObIeG16tw6hhPt6F76pfOOjjRtWMLDguEPaFK2l/vsaGqt86lsQhFRXn3NYCxQjM+RH19yFdXTD6A0lkGOseZaBS++wOEQMbfvsttZftuDxcs47WAXoZcziaa4NYpzAp+qAlNT8UU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:24:22 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unexpected hazards in the interface of wardrobe and technology In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BEON0m009865 > > I was surprised by a mid-pee flush. Fortunately, > I was not standing so close that it got me wet. > BrP > Too much information. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 09:25:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BEPX0m010037 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:25:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:25:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DFEF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:25:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:25:33 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BEPWm4024941 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:25:33 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16084401 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:46:55 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:25:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:25:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <554261901.20050411082537@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unexpected hazards in the interface of wardrobe and technology In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 160, in=55620, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/11/2005, 8:20 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> The automatic-flush urinals in the library apparently are activated by PB> changes in light intensity. I am wearing a mostly black t-shirt with PB> white writing and the poor thing was confused about whether someone was PB> standing there or not. I was surprised by a mid-pee flush. Fortunately, PB> I was not standing so close that it got me wet. Bragging or complaining? Some might have to stand close enough that they would have gotten wet. And of course some might have gotten themselves wet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 09:37:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BEbU0m011207 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:37:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:37:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005DFF72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:37:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 88849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:37:30 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BEbUDV027501 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:37:30 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so1557722wri for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.17 with SMTP id t17mr2272786wra; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:37:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dCXmjRHUiBrLGEylMxcsjJCN+72gHz8z7l4GrcqwT5B2+dE5MyIHhVQdQFVOSm141EZgVeipYA81xYZT2MhWW+FlVJdTOcHPPLBTyp6ui/eft+aODzUaW9/XzprzizgZo1jRP/AoogcVi2XEACrHDe09vDv0tsSmJHsfrmkv6bM= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:37:29 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New pictures! In-Reply-To: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BEbU0m011207 On Apr 11, 2005 10:48 AM, Rita Leonard wrote: P.S. My sister-in-law is expecting twins. We will learn the gender this week if they cooperate for the Melissa was thought to be a boy at first, which is why she's not "Jade". How far along is she? I recommend www.twinstuff.com which has some good forums if she is looking for advice and support from other twin moms (and some dads). The first months are really really hard. It's still hard, but different hard -- and nothing like the horrors of September. I've learned a lot from people who are either going through the same things or who have been there, because it's always something. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 09:37:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BEbZ0m011215 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:37:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:37:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E0137@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:37:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 88871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:37:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BEbYMV027517 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:37:34 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:37:34 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:37:17 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: unexpected hazards in the interface of wardrobe and technology Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU it's too much for you to know what I am wearing? BrP >>> bonniemaev@GMAIL.COM 4/11/2005 10:24:22 AM >>> > > I was surprised by a mid-pee flush. Fortunately, > I was not standing so close that it got me wet. > BrP > Too much information. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 09:52:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BEqX0m013297 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:52:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:52:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E00FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:52:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 90703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:52:32 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BEqWDi030804 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:52:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.101.249]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411145232.LKDX1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:52:32 -0400 Message-ID: <425A8F29.8020801@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:52:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New pictures! References: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Annoying?? NOT! I see in some of the pictures that they're skills that will help them on Survivor someday. And why had I not realized before that they have different colored eyes? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 10:14:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BFEO0m015249 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:14:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E0216@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:04:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 92355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:04:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BF4MZm002136 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:04:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2631161wra for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.21 with SMTP id 21mr699252wrd; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:04:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=j10JcG4p1toPWth/11ge8/ztqOGexY3I2V9mkstM9xczKxBjnQTRHy2VKeY+OpSoVGFKzNHKTdNHnjFVL9Dos13HIpl9KIpxQIX+w7Bw8JoGRxi10T9haTNVJcJ+shYfw3qKQzpU0GZt5lMavJpT/LzY/u9megJgAShvsm9BLb4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:04:21 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unexpected hazards in the interface of wardrobe and technology In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BFEO0m015249 Ah, if only the description has stopped there and wasn't left with the image of a mid-pee flush. it's too much for you to know what I am wearing? > > BrP > > > I was surprised by a mid-pee flush. Fortunately, > > I was not standing so close that it got me wet. > > BrP > > > Too much information. > > -- > --bonniev > -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 10:20:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BFK40m015998 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:20:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:20:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E01C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:20:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 94709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:19:56 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BFJsu7005427 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:19:54 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 93197846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:19:54 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050411081905.00ba3258@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:19:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: New pictures! In-Reply-To: References: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They just make me smile and smile. Soon it will be time to take them to the pool. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 10:24:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BFOa0m016439 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:24:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:24:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E0144@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:24:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 95325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:24:36 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BFOa6j006586 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:24:36 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1569329wri for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.24.49 with SMTP id 49mr5141221wrx; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:24:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KS7OV0Y1L9PiH827+d6rTJZz22nXOSI6r4wvDcY89yRGI9ZSoiqNbzFO8OFQsbPWEPbnsg3h+Dlgs/a8Odc7cGIhkjxjZy2+HwFVhq/rlDr9WGQiYp+XwIgD9AdfIuqWU46R98s0WRqeaE6TT0GrPuRd3GBf1/XcY82+SlCXkbk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:24:35 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New pictures! In-Reply-To: <425A8F29.8020801@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> <425A8F29.8020801@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BFOa0m016439 On Apr 11, 2005 11:52 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I see in some of the pictures that they're skills that will help them on > Survivor someday. Which skills in particular? Must be sure to nurture them! And why had I not realized before that they have > different colored eyes? Personally I spent some time in denial. I decided way back when I decided that I was going to have children with *uc* that I was rescinding all my recessive genes for a generation. Who would know that he, from the family of all dominants on all sides so far as I could tell, would be carrying along the genes of a missing link? Yep, Melissa's hair is red and her eyes are blue. Jade is all dominant browns. Neither of course, could have my recessive blood type. We've got one A+ and one B+. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 10:47:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BFlk0m019604 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:47:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:47:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFBA39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:47:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 97981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:47:46 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BFljBS012086 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:47:45 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1576370wri for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.33 with SMTP id x33mr2092526wrx; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.37 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:47:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=b5dj9+ckXWT7wsxRuap+A2ZfJOCCkHKFctPwnq32grN0UG7x6sc0SyM61KM5v7sPtdlI7sVYbB7dEOmtCTYSXh2fWVfLIyn+NfuUb57eOQjM6H2MsRNEg40xubGP2yM0/LsV+lQLrno6dy2zPGIVC01MfP4L5DURGM8+UNYn1cw= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:47:41 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > ... read Freakonomics? Since it won't be released until Tuesday: no. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 10:58:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BFwg0m020639 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:58:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:58:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E041B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:58:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:58:37 -0400 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BFwVYI014452 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:58:31 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.1f0.39ba63f7 (4402) for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:58:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1f0.39ba63f7.2f8bf8a3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:58:27 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] H.B. ET To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday, Karen! Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 11:00:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BG0M0m020817 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:00:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:00:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E0364@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:00:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:00:22 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BG076d014674 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:00:07 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3BG00M5025687 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:00:07 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3BFu8CA021324 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:56:09 -0400 Message-ID: <009101c53eae$fa66f450$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:56:08 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ah... ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Ostrowsky" To: Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: Re: 'Anybody... >> ... read Freakonomics? > > Since it won't be released until Tuesday: no. > > Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 11:22:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BGLx0m023967 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:22:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:22:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E027A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:01:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:01:58 -0400 Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com (imo-m17.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BG1w34015410 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:01:58 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.129.5ab527e2 (4402) for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:01:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <129.5ab527e2.2f8bf970@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:01:52 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Rashmi To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi, I hope your birthday was a very happy one! Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 11:35:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BGZ60m025287 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:35:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:35:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E044A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:35:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:35:05 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BGZ5Z0021956 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:35:05 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C22CB8CCD2D2 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:35:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:35:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Ostrowsky" To: Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: Re: 'Anybody... >> ... read Freakonomics? > > Since it won't be released until Tuesday: no. > > Ben A little of it in essays on NPR. com - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 12:21:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BHLI0m029188 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:21:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:21:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E0377@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:40:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 103288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:40:54 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BGeroa023236 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:40:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.128.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411164053.OQOM1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:40:53 -0400 Message-ID: <425AA890.7090806@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:40:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New pictures! References: <425A8026.5070008@bc.edu> <425A8F29.8020801@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >>I see in some of the pictures that they're skills that will help them on >>Survivor someday. >> >> As you no doubt figured out, the word "practicing" was supposed to be in that sentence. > Which skills in particular? Must be sure to nurture them! > > I first noticed it in the picture of their studying the pieces of cardboard -- as if putting together a puzzle. Then I realized that other activities might also contribute on Survivor -- their water activities, their climbing, etc. > Personally I spent some time in denial. I decided way back when I decided >that I was going to have children with *uc* that I was rescinding all my >recessive genes for a generation. Who would know that he, from the family of >all dominants on all sides so far as I could tell, would be carrying along >the genes of a missing link? > Yep, Melissa's hair is red and her eyes are blue. Jade is all dominant >browns. > > Hmm. Maybe they have different fathers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 12:44:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BHiE0m031900 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:44:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:44:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E060E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:44:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:44:14 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BHiDVw001808 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:44:13 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3BHi9Ll029821 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:44:13 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3BHfnCA006644 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:41:50 -0400 Message-ID: <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:41:48 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Markland" >> Since it won't be released until Tuesday: no. >> >> Ben > > A little of it in essays on NPR. com > > - D. M. That's where I'd heard of it, and with all of the librarians that have come and gone on the list, I thought someone might have an advanced copy... I guess the literary industry just doesn't work like that. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 13:26:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BIPj0m004838 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:25:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:26:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E0714@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:58:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:58:20 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BHwHKP004437 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:58:17 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3BHw8Lv030281 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:58:17 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3BHuCCA013648 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:56:13 -0400 Message-ID: <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:56:12 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.freakonomics.com/thebook.php ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Wild" To: Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: Re: 'Anybody... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doris Markland" >>> Since it won't be released until Tuesday: no. >>> >>> Ben >> >> A little of it in essays on NPR. com >> >> - D. M. > > That's where I'd heard of it, and with all of the librarians that have > come > and gone on the list, I thought someone might have an advanced copy... I > guess the literary industry just doesn't work like that. > > 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 13:26:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BIPj0m004840 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:25:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:26:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E06A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:02:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:02:14 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BHqDZi003584 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:52:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 20302 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Apr 2005 17:52:13 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:52:13 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: unexpected hazards in the interface of wardrobe and technology Message-ID: <20050411175213.GD13213@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 10:24:22AM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > I was surprised by a mid-pee flush. Fortunately, > > I was not standing so close that it got me wet. > > BrP > > Too much information. Let's quote it! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 13:26:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BIPj0m004841 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:25:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:26:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E059D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:00:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:00:16 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BHoFSf003132 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:50:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 19593 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Apr 2005 17:50:15 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:50:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz Message-ID: <20050411175015.GC13213@words-l.org> References: <42580AE9.5000903@maynor.net> <425858DA.4050308@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great ... now all we have to do is divide the population by the list size. On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 10:47:55AM -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: > There's at least one leper on words-l. > Marie > > On Apr 9, 2005 7:36 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > bonniemaev wrote: > > > > >>How many lepers are there in the US? > > >>-- Natalie > > >> > > >> > > > > > > 540 > > > > > > > > Way low. Maybe it's time to give the multiple-choice options that were > > given on the radio: 3,000, 30,000, 300,000. > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 13:26:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BIPj0m004839 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:25:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:26:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E0573@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:58:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:58:46 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BHmjgc002846 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:48:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 18515 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Apr 2005 17:48:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:48:45 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF Message-ID: <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 10:27:22PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/10/2005, 7:06 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> Long sleeves? That's the stuff I've put away until next winter. Do you > NM> think it will be ls weather in May? I guess so since you mentioned > NM> windbreaker/sweatshirt. Iow, the weather will be winter weather, not > NM> summer weather. I have only those two categories. > > Yes, winter in your terms. There is NO season of the year in SF when > you may not need a sweater, sweatshirt, etc, at least in the evening. You don't need a sweater in San Francisco at any time. People carry sweaters or jackets around and sometimes put them on and sweat, and it's basically lameass sheep behavior. PS: however, you can wear ANYTHING, because it's CALIFORNIA. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 13:26:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BIPj0m004837 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:25:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:26:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E0649@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:55:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:55:44 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BHjZFA002119 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:45:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 16708 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Apr 2005 17:45:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:45:35 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: interesting article Message-ID: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:26:29AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > on the history of the potato in Europe > > http://tinyurl.com/5doe7 Which expands to: http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2005/050318.htm An amazing 21-character saving, going from a very readable URL to a random one. Made possible by tinyurl.com! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 13:26:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BIPj0n004837 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:26:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:26:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E07B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:07:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:07:43 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BI7hZD006213 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:07:43 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:07:42 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:07:10 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "sweaters" "sheep" LOL BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/11/2005 1:48:45 PM >>> You don't need a sweater in San Francisco at any time. People carry sweaters or jackets around and sometimes put them on and sweat, and it's basically lameass sheep behavior. PS: however, you can wear ANYTHING, because it's CALIFORNIA. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 14:15:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BJFZ0m010941 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:15:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:15:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E079A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:15:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:15:35 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BJFYA3018985 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:15:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16067034 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:21:26 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:15:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:15:39 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <262294922.20050411131539@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=66715, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/11/2005, 11:41 AM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> That's where I'd heard of it, and with all of the librarians that have come AW> and gone on the list, I thought someone might have an advanced copy... I AW> guess the literary industry just doesn't work like that. Actually it does, to reviewers. It would be highly unusual for libraries to get them in advance. But they sure want the NY Times and other big papers to be able to review it on or about the day they come out. The review copies are typically in paper bindings (not like a paperback, but like the hardbound without the boards). dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 14:17:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BJHN0m011082 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:17:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:17:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E0967@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:17:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:17:22 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BJHM8x019358 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:17:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 15907120 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:29:23 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:17:42 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:17:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <201429542.20050411131727@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: interesting article In-Reply-To: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> References: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 164, in=54315, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/11/2005, 11:45 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> http://tinyurl.com/5doe7 DMH> Which expands to: DMH> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2005/050318.htm DMH> An amazing 21-character saving, going from a very readable DMH> URL to a random one. Made possible by tinyurl.com! I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds may tinyruls and those from similar outfits to be goofy. Yes, for a really long one...that contains all sorts of search terms or random characters or session IDs or whatever, they make sense. But not too long ago I got a tinyurl sent to me that was for something like library.boisestate.edu (except it was another library) dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 14:40:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BJeU0m014261 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:40:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:40:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E07C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:20:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:20:29 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BJKTmn020261 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:20:29 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E08C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:20:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200504111920.j3BJKTmn020261@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:20:29 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Another Quiz To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:47:55 -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: >There's at least one leper on words-l. moral or otherwise? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 14:45:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BJib0m014884 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:44:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:45:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E092A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:44:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:44:37 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BJYbS9023193 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:34:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 76162 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Apr 2005 19:34:37 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:34:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF Message-ID: <20050411193437.GB73471@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Especially if said in a gravelly voice! On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 02:07:10PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > "sweaters" "sheep" > > LOL > > BrP > > >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/11/2005 1:48:45 PM >>> > > You don't need a sweater in San Francisco at any time. People carry > sweaters > or jackets around and sometimes put them on and sweat, and it's > basically > lameass sheep behavior. PS: however, you can wear ANYTHING, because > it's > CALIFORNIA. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 14:53:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BJrh0m015954 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:53:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:53:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFC366@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:43:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:43:43 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BJXgWw023103 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:33:43 -0400 Received: (qmail 75101 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Apr 2005 19:33:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:33:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 01:56:12PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > http://www.freakonomics.com/thebook.php Please. http://tinyurl.com/5stzf Makes me really want to buy the book, by the way. It's after all a new way of looking at things. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 14:57:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BJuw0m016213 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:56:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:57:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E0962@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:56:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:56:58 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BJkvqY024975 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:46:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 82647 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Apr 2005 19:46:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:46:57 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: interesting article Message-ID: <20050411194657.GC73471@words-l.org> References: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> <201429542.20050411131727@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201429542.20050411131727@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 01:17:27PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/11/2005, 11:45 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> http://tinyurl.com/5doe7 > > DMH> Which expands to: > > DMH> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2005/050318.htm > > DMH> An amazing 21-character saving, going from a very readable > DMH> URL to a random one. Made possible by tinyurl.com! > > I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds may tinyruls and those from > similar outfits to be goofy. Yes, for a really long one...that > contains all sorts of search terms or random characters or session IDs > or whatever, they make sense. But not too long ago I got a tinyurl > sent to me that was for something like library.boisestate.edu (except > it was another library) I once outlined a better "tinyurl"-ish scheme right here--and it was greeted with so much incomprehension and refusal to imagine anything different from whatever current browser people had, that I said--take a guess--fuckem, BFD, I don't give a damn. Let them cut and paste and have indistinguishable tinyurls littering their screens (like the post-its that no doubt litter the sides). I bet there is a faded curled post-it within 100 feet of you that says "library.boisestate.edu". Or ... *scary music* ... http://tinyurl.com/5doe7 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 14:57:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BJvh0m016360 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:57:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:57:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E0A2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:57:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:57:42 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BJlbC5025204 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:47:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 82867 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Apr 2005 19:47:37 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:47:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Quiz Message-ID: <20050411194737.GD73471@words-l.org> References: <200504111920.j3BJKTmn020261@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504111920.j3BJKTmn020261@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 03:20:29PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:47:55 -0300, Marieber Meeber > wrote: > > >There's at least one leper on words-l. > > moral or otherwise? "Yes". har From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 15:21:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BKL70m019460 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E09B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:13:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:13:31 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3BK3UH2028038 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:03:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 3640 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Apr 2005 20:03:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:03:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Post-Its Message-ID: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sorry, I am not done yet. "I know I am annoying". But at least I am not a moral leper. At least, I hope so--don't have the faintest idea what in the fuck a moral leper is, but it sounds kinda bad. Actually an otherwise leper doesn't sound much better either. Annoying is the way to go. A sad state of affairs! Well, post-its suck. I bet you that the biggest users of post-its go home and BLOW THEIR STACKS because the spouse has been "messy" or a slob. The cubicle of course is buried under autumn leaves you can't burn. It is important stuff after all--one says "4pm". Sounds highly informative. Gotta keep it flapping for a few years. And hows about "#FFCC66"? A very important color to remember ... and goes very well with "earthlink/~bjones". But annoying as these are, they are less so than ... I will continue later, I just got handed a printout of two lines with a post-it saying "3pm meeting". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 15:21:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BKL70m019459 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E0A82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:14:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:14:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BKEqdH029885 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:14:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so586640nzp for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr214661nzc; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:14:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PWQRTSawrefccrm7yUqBYb8A+rCbngWyuAHC8yI3YrN5OQmxOODGVU76eW7SG8uvN++lqONfEMbfd0v7j13PeUNQm2F0lKOBPHUe4BbmEpg8B2upANuk2d+RtbpdROeJJ52rEY9ATzCRluVJ+9Fh7lsvF+Wf93EzOZkLwX/Y0EI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050411131460020a50@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:14:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, Karen - In-Reply-To: <425A6EA8.3070009@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425A6EA8.3070009@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BKL70m019459 On Apr 11, 2005 7:33 AM, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > Bethany K. Dumas skrev 11.04.2005 13:29: > > >- and many happy returns! (Maria says hi.) Thanks for not sending me a present from her. And Happy Birthday from Oslo - I don't know if Columbus says hi, but I > am sure he would have done if I had mentioned your birthday! > Of course--since I was born in the year of the rabbit. And for the next six months, Neal and I are the same age. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 15:21:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BKL70m019456 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E0A43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:01:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:01:07 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BK16o8027549 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:01:06 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3BK1566017535 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:01:05 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3BK14uw017533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:01:04 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:01:04 +0200 To: words-l Subject: google calculator Message-ID: <20050411200104.GA17498@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU google calculator knows the answer: http://tinyurl.com/5mfyk From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 15:21:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BKL70m019461 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E0A83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:15:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:15:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BKFLXE029949 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:15:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so586744nzp for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.19 with SMTP id j19mr214855nzb; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:15:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TagZu0kFeceSJllJvaBoYr7ojcNoHNkesyV9R0KKSXsJLy8GH9ysahurJH712ezkH9CVpAx/wfbhEZfJ6SF4PmFEuYu4xdOEpZ8hRWNmzq32yHel9YU3IQW1lBnwBODV7E7gT/bfzRWo1xATSihgbta0ArStX5nRKjc63gfGMPM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504111315469341ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:15:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, Karen - In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425A6EA8.3070009@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BKL70m019461 On Apr 11, 2005 8:44 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > Happy birthday from me, too! > Thank you. I can't believe how big your girls are getting! -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 15:28:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BKSm0m020632 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:28:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:28:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFC520@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:28:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:28:47 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BKSlt0031937 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:28:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16123661 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:29:08 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:29:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:28:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 162, in=53458, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/11/2005, 2:03 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> A sad state of affairs! Well, DMH> post-its suck. I bet you that the biggest users of post-its go DMH> home and BLOW THEIR STACKS because the spouse has been "messy" DMH> or a slob. The cubicle of course is buried under autumn leaves DMH> you can't burn. It is important stuff after all--one says "4pm". DMH> Sounds highly informative. Gotta keep it flapping for a few DMH> years. And hows about "#FFCC66"? A very important color to DMH> remember ... and goes very well with "earthlink/~bjones". Are you aware that last week was the 25th anniversary of Post-It(R) Notes? And do you know why they were invented? The current use, or at least 99.9 percent of the current use, is NOT for the original purpose. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 15:36:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BKaj0m021588 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:36:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:36:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E0A2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:35:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:35:53 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BKZrEr000747 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:35:53 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3BKZqec017724 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:35:52 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3BKZqpn017722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:35:52 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:35:51 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its Message-ID: <20050411203551.GA17672@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = continue later, I just got handed a printout of two lines = with a post-it saying "3pm meeting". I have one I made today with the smallest post-it and the biggest marker. It says "33026", which is the change request for the IP addresses that I need to get for my new hardware, and I need to remember to chase it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 15:36:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BKaj0m021589 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:36:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:36:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E09F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:26:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:26:45 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BKQhWo031524 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:26:43 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 15917050 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:38:44 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:27:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:26:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1368544012.20050411142648@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: interesting article In-Reply-To: <20050411194657.GC73471@words-l.org> References: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> <201429542.20050411131727@gailndan.com> <20050411194657.GC73471@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 164, in=54367, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/11/2005, 1:46 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> I bet there is a faded curled post-it within 100 feet of you DMH> that says "library.boisestate.edu". Or ... *scary music* ... DMH> http://tinyurl.com/5doe7 Nope. Don't have any postit notes around more than a week old. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 15:38:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BKcT0m021815 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:38:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:38:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E0A46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:38:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:38:28 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BKcRHs001352 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:38:28 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3BKcRqK017757 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:38:27 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3BKcQSB017755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:38:26 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:38:26 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its Message-ID: <20050411203826.GB17672@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Are you aware that last week was the 25th anniversary of Post-It(R) = Notes? And do you know why they were invented? The current use, or = at least 99.9 percent of the current use, is NOT for the original = purpose. Marking hymns in the prayer book. Guy from 3M had a batch of adhesive go wrong. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 15:38:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BKcU0m021819 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:38:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:38:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E0946@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:38:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:38:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BKcTk2001364 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:38:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so590988nzp for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.19 with SMTP id j19mr216209nzb; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:38:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nYTNrkyI/2TDnZa78/+mozPx2DHfqVFv2TN5w0lhUCfZZ9BUDD/Q0nRiA8cqOHQpOhUhCXcCs4Z1NXsmDCvBp6NNHMFrzHOGlrTGJiY2oZVrFzQ/gwbWjfJaLQDNeyDUN/xEnUNspTjQpfJsnK2j/xYqlUuMnOGCsP/L4YEw594= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:38:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BKcU0m021819 http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/story031.htm On Apr 11, 2005 3:28 PM, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/11/2005, 2:03 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> A sad state of affairs! Well, > DMH> post-its suck. I bet you that the biggest users of post-its go > DMH> home and BLOW THEIR STACKS because the spouse has been "messy" > DMH> or a slob. The cubicle of course is buried under autumn leaves > DMH> you can't burn. It is important stuff after all--one says "4pm". > DMH> Sounds highly informative. Gotta keep it flapping for a few > DMH> years. And hows about "#FFCC66"? A very important color to > DMH> remember ... and goes very well with "earthlink/~bjones". > > Are you aware that last week was the 25th anniversary of Post-It(R) > Notes? And do you know why they were invented? The current use, or > at least 99.9 percent of the current use, is NOT for the original > purpose. > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 15:50:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BKoe0m023065 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:50:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:50:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E0A52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:40:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:40:39 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BKebIC001768 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:40:38 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3BKebHb017810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:40:37 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3BKea6s017808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:40:36 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:40:36 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its Message-ID: <20050411204036.GC17672@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 03:38:29PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/story031.htm = Ah! Memory is faster than google, but not by much! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 17:11:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BMB70m031523 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:11:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:11:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFC8BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:01:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:01:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BM15qp005655 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:01:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so604718nzp for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.18 with SMTP id h18mr220663nzb; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:01:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qZkX6o/5iUC33HrRE7GLF3ptWFdCcVuOgwCk/QuYqs11+qgf7qnCw/M+igugNi6MG1fC69MfXqx35EatqpDY0HfKYTy0mli3+J5TNYFYIGJMyuF1Yre+kidFn732gGDnxKb3qWf8jM3sS11EERIYYFboSyYaRlQEY57g6kytYYo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041115013071b539@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:01:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I want to write a book Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3BMB70m031523 And I'm going to call it "Schwarma Bums". -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 18:40:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3BNe80m007693 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:40:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:40:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E0E04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:40:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:40:04 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3BNe4UB017226 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:40:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.183.47]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050411234003.GMJC2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:40:03 -0400 Message-ID: <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:39:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >You don't need a sweater in San Francisco at any time. People carry sweaters >or jackets around and sometimes put them on and sweat, and it's basically >lameass sheep behavior. PS: however, you can wear ANYTHING, because it's >CALIFORNIA. > > But it always comes back to feet. The biggest difference between winter and summer is that of sandals or clogs. And that of course affects the rest of the garb. It is therefore crucial to know when packing whether it's going to be winter or summer at the destination. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 19:16:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C0G50m011445 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:16:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:16:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E0D81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:16:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:16:05 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3C0G4uv021362 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:16:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16165580 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:37:34 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([69.92.254.187]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:16:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:16:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <893785493.20050411181626@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <20050411203826.GB17672@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <20050411203826.GB17672@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 160, in=56040, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Half right. The first half. Actually, it didn't go wrong....he wanted to find something that would do just what the adhesive does. And he did. He didn't think of other uses for it, but he asked secretaries to see what they thought of it. They found lots of uses he'd never dreamed of. 4/11/2005, 2:38 PM, steph wrote: s> = Are you aware that last week was the 25th anniversary of Post-It(R) s> = Notes? And do you know why they were invented? The current use, or s> = at least 99.9 percent of the current use, is NOT for the original s> = purpose. s> Marking hymns in the prayer book. Guy from 3M had a batch of adhesive s> go wrong. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 21:26:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C2Pt0m023596 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:25:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:26:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E0F04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:25:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:25:55 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3C2FstX032763 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:15:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 42935 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 02:15:54 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:15:54 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: interesting article Message-ID: <20050412021554.GA31295@words-l.org> References: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> <201429542.20050411131727@gailndan.com> <20050411194657.GC73471@words-l.org> <1368544012.20050411142648@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1368544012.20050411142648@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 02:26:48PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/11/2005, 1:46 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> I bet there is a faded curled post-it within 100 feet of you > DMH> that says "library.boisestate.edu". Or ... *scary music* ... > DMH> http://tinyurl.com/5doe7 > > Nope. Don't have any postit notes around more than a week old. You have a 100-foot long office? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 21:27:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C2Rh0m023817 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:27:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:27:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E10C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:27:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:27:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3C2RgDc001434 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:27:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so636868nzp for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.8 with SMTP id g8mr231159nzg; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:27:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FQCwNu+FyRQI39SigfMQj6IfXGl/W3sVVm5GccnegXP0sAtggGC1k7exOBTlKnd/mGG0D1wqEpezP+zSoL3r5iPgANG7O/pv9uLVhgL4aw1/Ff8a2uaayUI0SPXXom4tVTedxKdIaOtdOyLzZsVoiss9R+52qXrFer4S3HbFZi4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050411192720853a15@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:27:41 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <893785493.20050411181626@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <20050411203826.GB17672@yoccoz.multinix.com> <893785493.20050411181626@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3C2Rh0m023817 On Apr 11, 2005 7:16 PM, Dan Lester wrote: > > Half right. The first half. > > Actually, it didn't go wrong....he wanted to find something that would > do just what the adhesive does. And he did. > Cite, please. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 21:27:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C2Rl0m023830 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:27:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:27:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E1007@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:27:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:27:46 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3C2HkNr000503 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:17:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 43556 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 02:17:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:17:46 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its Message-ID: <20050412021746.GB31295@words-l.org> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 02:28:52PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/11/2005, 2:03 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> A sad state of affairs! Well, > DMH> post-its suck. I bet you that the biggest users of post-its go > DMH> home and BLOW THEIR STACKS because the spouse has been "messy" > DMH> or a slob. The cubicle of course is buried under autumn leaves > DMH> you can't burn. It is important stuff after all--one says "4pm". > DMH> Sounds highly informative. Gotta keep it flapping for a few > DMH> years. And hows about "#FFCC66"? A very important color to > DMH> remember ... and goes very well with "earthlink/~bjones". > > Are you aware that last week was the 25th anniversary of Post-It(R) > Notes? *scary music* > And do you know why they were invented? The current use, or at least > 99.9 percent of the current use, is NOT for the original purpose. Be sure never to divulge the real use! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 21:37:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C2bG0m024776 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:37:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:37:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E0F2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:37:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:37:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3C2RFPA001395 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:27:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 52215 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 02:27:14 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:27:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its Message-ID: <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 03:38:29PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/story031.htm Sigh ... http://tinyurl.com/6bxkq From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 21:58:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C2wb0m027041 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:58:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:58:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E116B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:58:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:58:37 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3C2mb8Y003308 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:48:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 75867 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 02:48:36 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:48:36 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF Message-ID: <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 06:39:58PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > But it always comes back to feet. The biggest difference between winter > and summer is that of sandals or clogs. And that of course affects the > rest of the garb. It is therefore crucial to know when packing whether > it's going to be winter or summer at the destination. Oh, you can wear any footwear in California. Or no footwear at all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 21:59:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C2xO0m027189 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:59:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:59:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E1182@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:59:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:59:23 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3C2nMIc003433 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:49:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 76649 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 02:49:22 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:49:22 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its Message-ID: <20050412024922.GB73975@words-l.org> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <20050411203826.GB17672@yoccoz.multinix.com> <893785493.20050411181626@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <893785493.20050411181626@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 06:16:26PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Half right. The first half. > > Actually, it didn't go wrong....he wanted to find something that would > do just what the adhesive does. And he did. He didn't think of other > uses for it, but he asked secretaries to see what they thought of it. > They found lots of uses he'd never dreamed of. Well, now I have all four versions of the story! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 22:03:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C33r0m027938 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:03:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:03:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFD06B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:03:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 145135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:03:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3C2rcUE003948 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:53:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 73807 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 02:46:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:46:57 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its Message-ID: <20050412024657.GD31295@words-l.org> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am back. The other annoyance--even I think I am being a bit whiney here, but it is an annoyance fair and square. Suppose you ask somebody a question and they give an ultra-short answer, which is very easy to remember, and unnecesary to remember for very long. It is extremely annoying when they write it on a post-it note and give it to you. Now intensify every aspect of this: their answer is not only short, but incomplete and uninformative. And they write it in large moronic letters on a writing pad. THAT makes my blood boil ... You: Where can I read about moral leprosy? Them: Try Google. You: [Thanks, I am forever in your debt] OK ... --and before you can say anything further, they pull a huge writing pad, write "GOOGLE.COM" in idiotic large looping letters, briskly tear off the page and give it to you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 11 22:49:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C3nL0m032329 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:49:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:49:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFDA35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:49:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 164321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:49:20 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3C3nKbs010256 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:49:20 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3C3nJLf011090 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:49:20 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3C3mOCA021402 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:48:26 -0400 Message-ID: <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:48:27 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 01:56:12PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: >> http://www.freakonomics.com/thebook.php > > Please. > > http://tinyurl.com/5stzf > > Makes me really want to buy the book, by the way. > It's after all a new way of looking at things. Har! Le'me see you war-surf... THAT's not a war-surf!!!.... THIS is war-surfing!!!... http://savetoby.com I think someone with plenty of time on their hands, rated as perhaps their participation on a phatic listserv, should FrontPage a site to save Toby, for real... KK? <'to the Zevon tune: Jungle Work> 'Lear Jet S.W.A.T. team, on a midnight run, with the M16, and the Ingram gun... they parachute in... the parachute out! 'Rescue from above.... They're screamin' now. Bunny terrorists... Tushar "the Goatherd", and Ms. K, another year older, are on to you. God fuck Hell, sons, give it up. You have NO idea what K will do to you... 'God... it's hideous. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 00:12:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C5CC0m008377 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:12:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E1D04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 1:12:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:12:12 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3C52B5R015433 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:02:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 54174 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 05:02:10 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:02:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050412050210.GA52708@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 11:48:27PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > >On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 01:56:12PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > >>http://www.freakonomics.com/thebook.php > > > >Please. > > > >http://tinyurl.com/5stzf > > > >Makes me really want to buy the book, by the way. > >It's after all a new way of looking at things. > > Har! Le'me see you war-surf... > > THAT's not a war-surf!!!.... THIS is war-surfing!!!... > > http://savetoby.com > > I think someone with plenty of time on their hands, rated as perhaps their > participation on a phatic listserv, should FrontPage a site to save Toby, > for real... KK? > > <'to the Zevon tune: Jungle Work> 'Lear Jet S.W.A.T. team, on a midnight > run, with the M16, and the Ingram gun... they parachute in... the > parachute out! 'Rescue from above.... They're screamin' now. > > Bunny terrorists... Tushar "the Goatherd", and Ms. K, another year older, > are on to you. God fuck Hell, sons, give it up. You have NO idea what K > will do to you... 'God... it's hideous. 'Applause From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 00:41:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C5fD0m010812 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:41:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:41:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E1DF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 1:41:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:41:13 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3C5VBEi016972 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:31:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 70155 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 05:31:10 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:31:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050412053110.GA59209@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Apologies to 'Al ... I just read some chapter excerpts and the book seems interesting ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 02:53:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3C7rL0m026610 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 02:53:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 02:53:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E1F47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 3:53:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 03:53:20 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3C7rH7C028026 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 03:53:18 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3C7rHfA021013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:53:17 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3C7rGcv021011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:53:16 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:53:16 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I want to write a book Message-ID: <20050412075316.GA20981@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041115013071b539@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041115013071b539@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 05:01:02PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = And I'm going to call it "Schwarma Bums". No, no no. It should be "Schwarma Buns"! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 05:57:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CAvO0m021166 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:57:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:57:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFE124@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 6:57:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:57:24 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CAvNaT008431 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:57:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.13]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050412105723.PIJC2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:57:23 -0400 Message-ID: <425BA98E.6020004@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:57:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Oh, you can wear any footwear in California. Or no footwear at all. That in no way lessens the problem of having to know what that is when you set out on a trip. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 07:49:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CCmt0m003382 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:48:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:49:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFE1AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 7:38:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:38:53 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CBSr2Q003515 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:28:53 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3CBSkSZ018630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:28:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:28:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: more jazz at the Tennessee Theatre Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Last night: John Socfield trio, Brad Meldau trio ... wonderful! After both trios played, then John Scofield joined the Brad Meldau trip for a final number. I could listen to Brad all night. Next year: Chick Corea, Sonny Rollins, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:10:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CD9u0m006554 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:09:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:10:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFE3A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 8:49:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:49:55 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CCntks015415 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:49:55 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3CCnp7Y017541 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:49:55 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3CClcCA002262 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:47:39 -0400 Message-ID: <018501c53f5d$cf343220$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050412053110.GA59209@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:47:37 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > Apologies to 'Al ... I just read some chapter excerpts > and the book seems interesting ... 'Will find out soon enough... copies are shipping. Appreciative of its outside-the-box thinking, I hope it's also written for the AADD reader. ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:10:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CD9u0m006557 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:09:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:10:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EFE47D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 9:07:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 187198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:07:24 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CD7ONj018309 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:07:24 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 15986238 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:19:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:07:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:07:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <108969011.20050412070729@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: interesting article In-Reply-To: <20050412021554.GA31295@words-l.org> References: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> <201429542.20050411131727@gailndan.com> <20050411194657.GC73471@words-l.org> <1368544012.20050411142648@gailndan.com> <20050412021554.GA31295@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=54625, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/11/2005, 8:15 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Nope. Don't have any postit notes around more than a week old. DMH> You have a 100-foot long office? non sequiter alert! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:11:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CDBc0m006764 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:11:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:11:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2304@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 9:11:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 187562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:11:37 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CDBbCb018995 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:11:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16145166 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:17:38 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:11:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:11:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=67003, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/11/2005, 8:48 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> Oh, you can wear any footwear in California. Or no footwear at all. Same for any other item of clothing. Of course if you go topless in SF most any time of the year, you will have perky nipples. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:13:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CDDh0m007034 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:13:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:13:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2251@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 9:13:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 187779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:13:43 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CDDhqZ019343 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:13:43 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16204581 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:35:21 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:14:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:13:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 161, in=56149, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/11/2005, 9:48 PM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> THAT's not a war-surf!!!.... THIS is war-surfing!!!... AW> http://savetoby.com Well, PayPal has shut down the account. Since it is almost to 25K, apparently, maybe the guy will only eat half of toby From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:27:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CDQs0m008842 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:26:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:27:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2323@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 9:16:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 188058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:16:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CDGrGg019839 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:16:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so715314nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.5 with SMTP id h5mr256086nzc; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:16:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MlhjEVqsQaLsCJjbXsKTbHBd2Tt0aQuyY4q79BVxE/oBogVbtrFUQP+h2+PW9mjhC59IOZdgr9DcTX6L8XUNO98T76XvbaS++5sjNAqOSvoZW15vzg9S/LYZDihshWIoDQwVclRI04L+fCqCONtO37LwOxJWjcOdIrA/sa2CzKw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:16:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CDQs0m008842 Your own cite demonstrates your full-of-shitness. On Apr 12, 2005 8:10 AM, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/11/2005, 8:27 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 03:38:29PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/story031.htm > > DMH> Sigh ... http://tinyurl.com/6bxkq > > Sigh yourself. Neither my report nor the cite you give above tells it > all. Read it at http://www.3m.com/about3M/pioneers/fry.html > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:40:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CDeW0m010700 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:40:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:40:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EFE49A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 9:10:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 187452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:10:32 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CDAVBL018792 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:10:31 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16145087 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:16:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:10:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:10:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=67002, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/11/2005, 8:27 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 03:38:29PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/story031.htm DMH> Sigh ... http://tinyurl.com/6bxkq Sigh yourself. Neither my report nor the cite you give above tells it all. Read it at http://www.3m.com/about3M/pioneers/fry.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:43:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CDhM0m011067 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:43:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:43:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E23AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 9:42:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:42:07 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CDg7ga024017 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:42:07 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3CDg77K019276 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:42:07 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3CDdcCA022164 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:39:39 -0400 Message-ID: <01bd01c53f65$12dbab00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:39:37 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Imus this morning they noted that the counter didn't seem to increment. Did you actually see it increment? Of course, that doesn't mean much either... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: Re: 'Anybody... > 4/11/2005, 9:48 PM, Alan Wild wrote: > > AW> THAT's not a war-surf!!!.... THIS is war-surfing!!!... > > AW> http://savetoby.com > > Well, PayPal has shut down the account. Since it is almost to 25K, > apparently, maybe the guy will only eat half of toby From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:43:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CDhM0m011065 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:43:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:43:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E21B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 9:33:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 189456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:33:22 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CDXLdF022623 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:33:22 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:33:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:32:56 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: in celebration od NLW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's National Library Week. Gale is offereing some free searching of their databases to celebrate http://trials.galegroup.com/nlw2005/portal.html BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:46:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CDkT0m011525 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:46:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:46:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E230E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 9:46:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:46:29 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CDkSxJ024918 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:46:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16148485 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:52:30 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:46:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:46:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=67021, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 7:16 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Your own cite demonstrates your full-of-shitness. As you wish. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 08:48:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CDmd0m011832 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:48:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:48:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2216@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 9:48:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:48:35 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CDmYEO025299 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:48:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16193975 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:48:55 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:48:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:48:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1729887130.20050412074840@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <01bd01c53f65$12dbab00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <01bd01c53f65$12dbab00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=53753, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 7:39 AM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> On Imus this morning they noted that the counter didn't seem to increment. AW> Did you actually see it increment? Of course, that doesn't mean much AW> either... No, didn't see it until this morning. Had heard about it in the media, but hadn't bothered to visit it until the URL provided in a msg here. Regardless, I'm amazed that anyone gives enough of a shit about some wild rabbit that would have been eaten by the cats anyway...or mabye even that is made up...could have been bought at a pet store. And plenty of baby rabbits and mice and rats are fed to pet snakes. What does it matter who eats it? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 09:03:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CE3p0m014151 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:03:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:03:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2272@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:03:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 192024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:03:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CE3oCv027706 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:03:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4403nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr259388nzc; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:03:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DKjTb7CsxeBRxaW0lCGXdw6v/YXziNtUPsw3ZlDix3QnXDg9ZsWjT5Vo+ulIjK9plLU3Wu/cmxQy1mojx5gJjrU8bXKClmdOWOaYTo6xrv8PODg1paSaYu5hpttHTKhHV1efoX+4lOEYmSsa6puVzbhomZQtBs/BiM8ZY1LQMkc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041207037483b51d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:03:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CE3p0m014151 As you demonstrate. On Apr 12, 2005 8:46 AM, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/12/2005, 7:16 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> Your own cite demonstrates your full-of-shitness. > > As you wish. > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 09:16:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CEGb0m015641 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:16:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:16:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E23AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:09:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 192605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:09:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CE9PQs029008 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:09:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so833726nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.19 with SMTP id j19mr259959nzb; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:09:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gDWF53KSTqk3aUEdbqqeF4gWCeI9c9lzMmbyYlXDY7HTrpmQtDwxIFziq5JzkX4ZmBrMqceGGLqrCz2kY5Y9C4PuFP/i4/1O2ts0fEex33g6KDw+MARE6JnwbUbyROQl3NiM6aOR1ldQGHcNwCDbzqhvfQAYnmW8IjEfOVwoi/Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050412070939ad09d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:09:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <13710693658.20050412080641@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041207037483b51d@mail.gmail.com> <13710693658.20050412080641@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CEGb0m015641 On Apr 12, 2005 9:06 AM, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/12/2005, 8:03 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> As you demonstrate. > > As you wish. You are always right and must be deferred to by all. You > are the queen. I bow humbly before your backside. > Oh, please. Save it for someone who cares. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 09:16:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CEGb0m015642 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:16:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:16:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E23BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:13:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 192768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:13:00 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CECxO2029505 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:12:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1901221wri for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.10.63 with SMTP id 63mr1040831wrj; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:12:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZScs4dmL8RcSG3dnBNh7jiDdONmHBxzydsEurzPhEE+fdMKw+iR0h1M/jpsX4XQwnhc7x33e8JH8nZkv56K/eg8BtAwmNbcOjDjcM4mrPbhG0KuxuwgW0juLoxo7xdMO9JMnz9JQOpJtliZixqfIpkFaEAVODRY+tklJpDUoZNI= Message-ID: <83db447a050412071233af4bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:12:58 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <1729887130.20050412074840@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <01bd01c53f65$12dbab00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1729887130.20050412074840@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CEGb0m015642 On Apr 12, 2005 9:48 AM, Dan Lester wrote: > > > What does it matter who eats it? Exactly. The only issue is how well it is prepared. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 09:16:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CEGb0m015638 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:16:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:16:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E22A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:06:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 192332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:06:36 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CE6Zj6028374 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:06:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16210607 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:28:15 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:06:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:06:41 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13710693658.20050412080641@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041207037483b51d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041207037483b51d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 161, in=56181, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 8:03 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> As you demonstrate. As you wish. You are always right and must be deferred to by all. You are the queen. I bow humbly before your backside. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 09:20:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CEKR0m016084 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:20:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:20:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E249B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 193096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:27 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CEKQ1k030633 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1903766wri for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.7.35 with SMTP id 35mr884190wrg; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:20:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=SagZTi94hndecD6RQQ3ahXYWNF+s4NFvTCPoK1vzX5fTkDRCny3szMBDa7KZ+qYZ745auqwuG/yG1vZkvKzwRVMF3TyU7jpcOl30S3iHFzluWV3AXcYYY3kZgD1GEJ1r2LH5AjBTk07WMSPwZRrxtKlwwXXYQmcKEQcHL2JD+kg= Message-ID: <83db447a05041207203878c43a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:26 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: Deja vu again, baby... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CEKR0m016084 A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not quite spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a little later, then back to snow showers tonight. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 09:50:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CEoI0m019398 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:50:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:50:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFE853@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:50:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:50:14 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CEoA7A004797 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:50:10 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3CEo27c022193 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:50:10 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3CEmMCA020967 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:48:23 -0400 Message-ID: <01f701c53f6e$ad653250$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <01bd01c53f65$12dbab00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1729887130.20050412074840@gailndan.com> <83db447a050412071233af4bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:48:22 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" On Apr 12, 2005 9:48 AM, Dan Lester wrote: > > What does it matter who eats it? > Exactly. The only issue is how well it is prepared. > cwv So then... what's best for wabbit? I've heard a lot about rabbit stew... is that a common recourse due to a gamey tasting meat? Or is that only a truly feral rabbit-meat concern? 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 10:11:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CFB00m022282 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:11:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:11:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2495@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:11:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:11:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CFAwq0009086 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:10:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so9553nzo for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.96.8 with SMTP id t8mr264502nzb; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:10:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=MWrjLXcxzYLXkz2kg4LIHNVtsj3HDlG8yLoORI/97ZBqSNEV5Q4fauj3VKsAKKIROWdN2VmFQkR9Gl+gbdJNwmtKZraDexpcCDtHuICDigQnO2h6Xr9E1c8iCpxxExHHJFDmznDqgu+EQuywqgbn77Jd6w4rcqOTJ1GYfr2XtL0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:10:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Zoos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CFB00m022282 Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 10:16:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CFG80m022898 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:16:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:16:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2683@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:16:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:16:07 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CFG69P010146 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:16:06 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3CFG47U023181 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:16:06 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3CFDOCA000310 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:13:25 -0400 Message-ID: <022301c53f72$2c64eac0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Zoos Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:13:24 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ask Martha Stewart. ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: Zoos Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 10:17:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CFHC0m023022 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:17:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:17:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFE9A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:17:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:17:11 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CFHBb5010382 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:17:11 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:17:11 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:16:36 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Zoos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Which animals? Which zoo? BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/12/2005 11:10:57 AM >>> Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 10:33:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CFXM0m024354 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:33:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:33:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E24E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:23:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:23:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CFNLJS011816 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:23:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2976822wra for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.105.13 with SMTP id d13mr907505wrc; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:23:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LeoMw4md2/Ix95t/WcigJyZW5eoztp70fPAcQoVoK9TYqS9vtLWYiJesbB1/2IqepwAsg5Uc78FTEgoiSE680k9Y/mWIh4nc/grHj5W8lbAv4MJNLiZOdeOSxbDMnIDJh/gpRpZau/bwyFeBHgXm+Brtz89H6gXzz5R+YhF2bCQ= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:23:20 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <01f701c53f6e$ad653250$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <01bd01c53f65$12dbab00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1729887130.20050412074840@gailndan.com> <83db447a050412071233af4bd@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c53f6e$ad653250$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CFXM0m024354 > > > Exactly. The only issue is how well it is prepared. > > cwv > > So then... what's best for wabbit? I've heard a lot about rabbit stew... > is that a common recourse due to a gamey tasting meat? Or is that only a > truly feral rabbit-meat concern? > 'Alan Spit-roasted is the only way I've personally seen Clyde eat rabbit. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 10:33:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CFXM0m024355 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:33:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:33:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2517@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:31:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:31:38 -0400 Received: from mxfep03.bredband.com (mxfep03.bredband.com [195.54.107.76]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CFVaf8013263 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:31:37 -0400 Received: from mxfep03 ([195.54.107.76] [195.54.107.76]) by mxfep03.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050412153136.VRPQ1312.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:31:36 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:31:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050412153136.VRPQ1312.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not > quite spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a > little later, then back to snow showers tonight. > cwv It has been snowing here all day, too. Son of a bitch. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 10:35:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CFZn0m024559 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:35:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:35:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E26FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:35:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:35:49 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CFZmcB014003 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:35:49 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041217341320915 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:34:13 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:35:46 +0200 Message-ID: <425BEAD2.4060104@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:35:46 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... References: <20050412153136.VRPQ1312.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> In-Reply-To: <20050412153136.VRPQ1312.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2005 15:35:46.0886 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C022660:01C53F75] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen skrev 12.04.2005 17:31: >>A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not >>quite spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a >>little later, then back to snow showers tonight. >>cwv >> >> > >It has been snowing here all day, too. Son of a bitch. > > > And here we have flowers and spring! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 10:36:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CFZw0m024581 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:35:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:36:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFEA58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:35:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:35:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CFZvkS014027 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:35:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so28738nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.49.8 with SMTP id w8mr266248nzw; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:35:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pItTOYVt/6XP5li2PHXcllhg0OLIj6p78M40ZvucI2+bSTKiDiTsP0ljio5Ao5dPapwK9jAGBm81dKJBwwzBFh9FMlb6n3CtFx0NetanAmt2ZWzwwnxnmWLOLkvQOp02me/z2DBvL6m6N3sg8ZZs0ptzqN4tJtu2HftjOsWg4e8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050412083561e80df2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:35:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CFZw0m024581 On Apr 12, 2005 10:16 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Which animals? > Which zoo? It's a general, theoretical question. I'm trying to understand this POV. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 10:36:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CFaH0m024613 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:36:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:36:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E263E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:36:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:36:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CFaGVp014071 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:36:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so15998nzo for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.12 with SMTP id b12mr266014nzc; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:36:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sXEXlRTlFNZ4dxb64IGBICL4eRC3PQmSVeNJknTll4GGSv4f57lcukEysxf0Xj7OmWmbQmEY1JAtkgu1mcK758IWM5ZowkvKe/XlGGz8DAv81h22xu5cJc2n+X/8sQWUiWhLP/BnQG0/aCBXBEpTXELvdbw+emjH01g8RJsneEw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050412083636862f3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:36:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <022301c53f72$2c64eac0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <022301c53f72$2c64eac0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CFaH0m024613 On Apr 12, 2005 10:13 AM, Alan Wild wrote: > > Ask Martha Stewart. Why her? ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:10 AM > Subject: Zoos > > Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. > -- > Karen > "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- > Andy Goldsworthy > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 10:45:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CFjn0m025330 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:45:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:45:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFEAC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:45:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:45:47 -0400 Received: from mxfep03.bredband.com (mxfep03.bredband.com [195.54.107.76]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CFjfGT016548 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:45:43 -0400 Received: from mxfep03 ([195.54.107.76] [195.54.107.76]) by mxfep03.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050412154540.VXXT1312.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:45:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:45:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050412154540.VXXT1312.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen skrev 12.04.2005 17:31: >>A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not >>quite spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a >>little later, then back to snow showers tonight. >>cwv >> >> > >It has been snowing here all day, too. Son of a bitch. > > > > And here we have flowers and spring! > > Espen Ugh. Bite me. (But I love you anyway, Espen!) Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 10:47:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CFlg0m025481 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:47:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:47:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E25A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:47:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:47:41 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CFlfaZ017207 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:47:41 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CEB52C1F3009 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:47:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Zoos Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:48:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: Zoos Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy Are cats better off running wild or in someone's home? Did you hear about the problem in Madison, Wis, with large numbers of feral cats in the city. Their government is debating right now on whether to allow them to be shot and killed. Maybe my sister saw this coming. Anyway I hope the Humane Society there is making good use of all the $ she left them. Maybe they could use the money to create a gun that would shoot a vial of neutering fluid into the toms. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:07:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CG7a0m028737 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:07:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:07:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFEC69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:07:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:07:35 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CG7Z3D022698 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:07:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16165983 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:13:37 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:07:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:07:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16310441525.20050412100734@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050412070939ad09d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041207037483b51d@mail.gmail.com> <13710693658.20050412080641@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412070939ad09d5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=67142, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 8:09 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> As you wish. You are always right and must be deferred to by all. You >> are the queen. I bow humbly before your backside. >> AFoA> Oh, please. Save it for someone who cares. Obviously you do. So accept the gentle kisses on your ass without whining. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:16:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGGb0m029775 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:16:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:16:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFEC8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:16:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:16:37 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGGR4G024586 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:16:27 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 71898ABA52957 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:16:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c53f7b$0c0f1710$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Dumb Founded Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:16:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CGGb0m029775 My printer jammed or something and would not respond to any of the troubleshooting I was able to do. I called a local computer service store that has a printer repair man, although I thought he just did Canons, while I have a HP Photosmart 7350. I was transferred to the man, who answered immediately and then patiently and expertly talked me through a series of procedures that fixed the problem. I asked if I would be billed, and he said, "No. This is what I do." I will wonder all day who pays him. His name was Steve Allen. You don't suppose this was a joke, or maybe it was really an angel on the phone. . . - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:20:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGKF0m030213 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E284B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:08:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:08:41 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CG8eoP023060 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:08:41 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ED4F5A8D25E5 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:08:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000201c53f79$f0a5fd50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Zoos Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:49:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: Zoos Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. -- Karen Ah, the Terri Shiavo question again. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:20:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGKF0m030221 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E284D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:09:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:09:04 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CG94Rd023163 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:09:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16007861 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:21:13 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:09:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:09:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1336597235.20050412100903@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=54792, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 9:10 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. All depends on the zoo. In some cases yes. In most cases no. And, the corollary.... Are convicted murderers who admit their crime and wish to be executed better off locked in prison for the rest of their lives? Discuss. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:20:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGKF0m030219 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E26B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 203033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CFoClU017882 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so32824nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr267194nzc; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:50:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DyTZMzmoSa3vd60IcI6tZT5YalAwTeimSnzfhTFo0KHT/wKSkMNLQ1ojdG1xipo1D5nPadMBmrR8QysR7BfwNydojRZ64z/XXqsBrP9BFy+RRwgdDLM3OwR/pMT9bQ8o8f45o0E9skGAPXC/ZVx5DOilFtKmI6+WiS62kam56nA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041208503a68f556@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:50:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CGKF0m030219 On Apr 12, 2005 10:48 AM, Doris Markland wrote: > > Are cats better off running wild or in someone's > home? > >From the cat's point of view, I suspect that many of them like to run wild. They are hunters, after all. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:20:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGKF0m030222 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2797@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:10:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:10:29 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGASt1023494 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:10:29 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16166412 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:16:31 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:10:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:10:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <173810597.20050412101027@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050412083636862f3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <022301c53f72$2c64eac0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050412083636862f3c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=67145, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 9:36 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Ask Martha Stewart. AFoA> Why her? Well, duuuhhh....come on Friend, you're smarter than that. Because she's an animal. Because she was in the zoo for five months, and now she is now fenced in on the farm for another five before she gets to run wild again. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:20:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGKF0n030213 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2869@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:13:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:13:05 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGD5R1024056 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:13:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16228083 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:34:46 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:13:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:13:04 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1004309899.20050412101304@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041208503a68f556@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705041208503a68f556@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 161, in=56274, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 9:50 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> From the cat's point of view, I suspect that many of them like to run wild. AFoA> They are hunters, after all. Then the Madison folks should indeed start hunting them. To a considerable extent we avoid that problem by having a sufficient number of coyotes around, at least for now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:20:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGKF0m030217 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:20:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E27A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:12:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:12:17 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGCGuB023791 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:12:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16008286 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:24:26 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:12:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:12:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <613473632.20050412101215@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=54795, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 9:48 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> Maybe DM> they could use the money to create a gun DM> that would shoot a vial of neutering fluid DM> into the toms. Why not the females as well? Are they "queens" in proper parlance among cat folks? Anyway, it takes two, and all that. And the females coming into season are what inspires the toms. I'd vote for an equal opportunity fluid that would neuter both genders. Also avoids the problem of trying to determine at a distance whether they're male or female. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:29:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGTD0m031249 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:29:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:29:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFED49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:29:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:29:12 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGTA5N026996 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:29:10 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-211.gwi.net [216.195.164.211]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3CGT40o067805; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:29:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120210.01bef518@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:08:00 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <01bd01c53f65$12dbab00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1729887130.20050412074840@gailndan.com> <83db447a050412071233af4bd@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c53f6e$ad653250$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:23 AM 4/12/2005, bonniemaev wrote: > Spit-roasted is the only way I've personally seen Clyde eat rabbit. I've had rabbit spit-roasted (domestic rabbit, at Fore Street). I've also had it roasted and fried (wild rabbit). The mother of my best friend in high school made sweet and sour (wild) rabbit---probably a Hungarian variation of hasenpfeffer---that was out of this world. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:33:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGXR0m031897 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:33:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:33:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFED72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:33:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:33:27 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGXQut027791 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:33:26 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-211.gwi.net [216.195.164.211]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3CGXL7E019470; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:33:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:32:51 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:10 AM 4/12/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. It depends on the species. Canines probably suffer more in captivity than do felines. Canines tend to be pack animals that have evolved as wide-ranging, active hunters that chase. Felines generally are more solitary, hunt more by stealth, and spend more "down" time. It also depends on the zoo. The world-class zoos have knowledgeable staff and enclosures that are designed (insofar as is possible) to the behavioral needs of the given species. Smaller zoos may do a good job with certain species or ecological groups but do so at the expense of others. I don't know what prompted your question. If the "better off dead" phrase implies that other than some behavioral restrictions, animals experience some sort of anguish, the factual basis for the latter is scant and most assertions in this are heavily anthropocentric. Some of the larger primates exhibit some of the same emotions as do we (surprise, surprise). However, such phenomena have not been described for, e.g., reptiles, amphibians, small mammals, and birds. So, ought we to cage up orangs, chimps, and gorillas? Perhaps not, except that for some of these, the zoo may be only answer to the threat of extinction. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:34:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGYD0m031942 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E27E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:26:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:26:43 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGQhhi026451 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:26:43 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EBC51913DE9 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:23:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001b01c53f7c$08b8f1c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <613473632.20050412101215@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Zoos Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:23:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Zoos > 4/12/2005, 9:48 AM, Doris Markland wrote: > > DM> Maybe > DM> they could use the money to create a gun > DM> that would shoot a vial of neutering fluid > DM> into the toms. > > Why not the females as well? Are they "queens" in proper parlance > among cat folks? Anyway, it takes two, and all that. And the females > coming into season are what inspires the toms. I'd vote for an equal > opportunity fluid that would neuter both genders. Also avoids the > problem of trying to determine at a distance whether they're male or > female. Good point. Actually, I think they should take my sister's money and build a large facility something like the Roach Motel. The cats, both male and female, go in and they never come out. They could be rounded up by Pied Piper Mice. Then start from scratch (from scratch?) with a plan for managing cat pets so there are no wild ones. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:34:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGYD0m031944 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E26E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:26:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:26:38 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGQc9u026420 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:26:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16168641 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:32:41 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:26:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:26:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <196223087.20050412102637@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041209246067e0cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000201c53f79$f0a5fd50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705041209246067e0cf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=67155, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 10:24 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Ah, the Terri Shiavo question again. >> AFoA> That's a pretty disgusting comparison. Why? She was in her own prison/jail/bars. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:34:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGYD0m031936 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E26D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:24:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:24:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGOCu0025951 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:24:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so42974nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.8 with SMTP id g8mr269527nzg; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:24:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=K/hl5TM+waXeMwC+4wO0JXqoSy5FMMoRCFpmwR51a5XQJ03+8Xh7Or9KrZBeqE6Wk71SAQtEMDKwpq1xFGq7Dtz6kUmysXLnBS1WnaCWDvq535pBROqftMGrdRruEHXdbpXzGf6r2oGCRKCXaHAXfsMVt+vysChWHDWJzx+JTNw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041209246067e0cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:24:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <000201c53f79$f0a5fd50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000201c53f79$f0a5fd50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CGYD0m031936 On Apr 12, 2005 10:49 AM, Doris Markland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:10 AM > Subject: Zoos > > Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. > -- > Karen > > Ah, the Terri Shiavo question again. > That's a pretty disgusting comparison. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:34:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGYD0m031943 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E28AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:27:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:27:27 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGRRfo026595 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:27:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16213836 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:27:48 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:27:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:27:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1238754532.20050412102726@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504120925191a97c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <1336597235.20050412100903@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504120925191a97c4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=53885, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 10:25 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Are convicted murderers who admit their crime and wish to be executed >> better off locked in prison for the rest of their lives? Discuss. >> AFoA> I don't think it's a corrollary. As you wish. Both are dead vs. behind bars. But I'm sure I'm wrong and you're right, as is always the case due to your superior brilliance and intellect. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:34:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGYD0n031944 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E27F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:28:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:28:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGSlJf026898 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:28:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so29084nzo for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.96.8 with SMTP id t8mr270159nzb; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:28:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=azChSbMX+6+ZMD/Vlc27ak76ywQBMt3gbo1cObScTClRUaUf0tLSEThpef7LentTAoF9F1GUE26Zte7GbxpaJCUOJCuoqBzUCfOXGjqTqpRbYmi864q0OlpICfXDiHY9cVO8Q5HglbEUGA4JPJnq3RSXqnmAp0k7mBZNLwqonCE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041209285a3c4c0f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:28:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <16310441525.20050412100734@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041207037483b51d@mail.gmail.com> <13710693658.20050412080641@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412070939ad09d5@mail.gmail.com> <16310441525.20050412100734@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CGYD0n031944 Ick! Don't mistake my amusement at your boldfacedly telling Steph she was wrong, while you provided a cite that proved her correct, for caring. On Apr 12, 2005 11:07 AM, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/12/2005, 8:09 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> As you wish. You are always right and must be deferred to by all. You > >> are the queen. I bow humbly before your backside. > >> > > AFoA> Oh, please. Save it for someone who cares. > > Obviously you do. So accept the gentle kisses on your ass without > whining. > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:34:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGYD0m031939 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E28A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:25:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:25:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGPc87026249 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:25:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so28398nzo for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.18 with SMTP id h18mr269945nzb; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:25:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pWbNhU3qZPEBxzsYYcHhdO9BNIVm3yvUL0NbdzvPnfCHvr/fK3sVdEu35vm8kMVnm2Ldpa5+tWN/yKuulWFIvDe1kb3+PUaRtpJnBPr5HyPj/vzYrp//Rtm6vqgNRHFYWzUODpyP1aHFCjkMCtZ+1PRNQPT/JKa/1WeO6ixRvnw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504120925191a97c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:25:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <1336597235.20050412100903@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <1336597235.20050412100903@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CGYD0m031939 On Apr 12, 2005 11:09 AM, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/12/2005, 9:10 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. > > All depends on the zoo. In some cases yes. In most cases no. > > And, the corollary.... > > Are convicted murderers who admit their crime and wish to be executed > better off locked in prison for the rest of their lives? Discuss. > I don't think it's a corrollary. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:41:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGfY0m000242 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:41:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:41:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2905@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:41:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:41:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGfXUp029325 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:41:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so32134nzo for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.19 with SMTP id j19mr270987nzb; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:41:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VJD6muTIyywZMk7DqeR0F3HKgxk4csKlRUw3id3wYPFOHmV3pC5AgHPJuOld5su6P0Laa0AdyQROWTUE3gCTRjpTPu9IrcZOcREX5edtY7y7rAEcUc8vJOBulxmu8z3sDj40ZbFRWdwdw2lUgQJQpoQXWi6CXJNE9xm1WbLo8Fc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:41:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CGfY0m000242 On Apr 12, 2005 11:32 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > So, ought we to cage up orangs, chimps, and gorillas? Perhaps not, except > that for some of these, the zoo may be only answer to the threat of > extinction. What prompted my question was the San Diego Wild Animal Park. They brought over a tribe of elephants to save them from being killed... Here's a part of a letter from the WAP Director: " In 2003 the Zoological Society, in collaboration with the Lowry Park Zoological Garden, took a leadership role, translocating a group of elephants from Swaziland to the Wild Animal Park and the Lowry Park Zoo in order to prevent them from being killed. At that time a group of animal rights organizations, organizations who oppose zoos, attempted to block the elephant move through legal action. In Federal court, spokespeople for these groups indicated that they felt that the elephants would be better off dead than in zoos. The Zoological Society felt that it was important to save these elephants, and despite protests and letter writing campaigns, successfully rescued the elephant herd just weeks before they were scheduled to be culled. In the last two years, the Zoological Society has worked with the government of Swaziland to set aside more park space for elephants, and we have announced the birth of a calf to the Swazi herd at the Wild Animal Park. While we and our conservation partners continued to work progressively towards efforts that will help to conserve elephants both in the wild and in zoological settings, these animal rights groups have continued to criticize the efforts of accredited zoos. Although it takes planning and effort to take positive action, criticizing the efforts of others is something that can be accomplished by simply waiting for unfortunate incidents to occur." I just don't get why people would rather see animals killed--especially when they have the chance to go to the WAP--that's pretty much the luxury hotel of zoos for WAs.. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:45:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGjc0m000572 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:45:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:45:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EFEDFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:45:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:45:36 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGjXaF030145 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:45:33 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 14EF3394DEC36 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:45:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002601c53f7f$1d5148f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: McAfeud Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:46:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CGjc0m000572 My new McAfee program gets all upset by words-l mail and keeps giving a warning that there could be dangerous mail because there have been several in a row with the same subject. - D. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:49:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGnh0m000939 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:49:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:49:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFEE15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:49:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:49:42 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGng9d031007 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:49:42 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D214C126D8FC3 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:49:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003d01c53f7f$b19cb1c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000201c53f79$f0a5fd50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705041209246067e0cf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Zoos Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Zoos > > Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. > -- > Karen > > Ah, the Terri Shiavo question again. > That's a pretty disgusting comparison. -- Karen I think it's a very accurate one. The press created her zoo, and then played people against people with the question you are asking. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:50:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGor0m001102 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2782@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:50:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:50:52 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGopNV031277 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:50:52 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16171855 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:56:54 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:51:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:50:50 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1139845498.20050412105050@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <001b01c53f7c$08b8f1c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <613473632.20050412101215@gailndan.com> <001b01c53f7c$08b8f1c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=67172, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 10:23 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> Then start from scratch (from scratch?) with a plan DM> for managing cat pets so there are no wild ones. Amen. Boise is one of several places I've lived that has laws forbidding any domestic animals running loose at any time off of your own property. They enforce it pretty heavily on dogs....but NOT on cats. Except for complaints about barking (when dogs are normally on own property, but being a nuisance) the most common complaint about animals is about cats running wild, howling all night in a backyard (not their own), filling the garden with cat shit, etc, etc. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:52:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CGq70m001215 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:52:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:52:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E288C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:52:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:52:07 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGq6wt031567 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:52:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16233205 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:13:48 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:52:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:52:05 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <809361357.20050412105205@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041209285a3c4c0f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041207037483b51d@mail.gmail.com> <13710693658.20050412080641@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412070939ad09d5@mail.gmail.com> <16310441525.20050412100734@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041209285a3c4c0f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 161, in=56300, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 10:28 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Don't mistake my amusement at your boldfacedly telling Steph she was wrong, AFoA> while you provided a cite that proved her correct, for caring. But I DO CARE about your ass, and wish to give it many kisses. That is the only way I can show you my pure humility and abject dishonor at ever contradicting your sacred words. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 12:05:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CH5b0m002920 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:05:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:05:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E289D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:55:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:55:45 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGtige032463 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:55:44 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16172497 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:01:47 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:56:04 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:55:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1073535038.20050412105543@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: McAfeud In-Reply-To: <002601c53f7f$1d5148f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <002601c53f7f$1d5148f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=67177, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Can't you train it to accept all email from the list address? You should be able to. 4/12/2005, 10:46 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> My new McAfee program gets all upset DM> by words-l mail and keeps giving a DM> warning that there could be dangerous DM> mail because there have been several DM> in a row with the same subject. DM> - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 12:05:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CH5b0m002921 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:05:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:05:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E27CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:03:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:03:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CH3WdK001732 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:03:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so53746nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.49.8 with SMTP id w8mr272479nzw; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:03:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XDhKEo+pHanT4SMbVxoNkWHRRVa3x3/dLG8bNi6giAWHdfXlpzYgFGJwhC2wmsRXd1lyrpKhP4ZEV2nHfGUzPH94pEJ/ZComs00j0Wry5ndczGr0Sg5XCdGh4smHCi4SOvBpRhNqfOz4addPaU4v+lNcrF9dy0E6mZJJ+0fvfVw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050412100355b3dfcb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:03:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <1026247149.20050412105509@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> <1026247149.20050412105509@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CH5b0m002921 On Apr 12, 2005 11:55 AM, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/12/2005, 10:41 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> I just don't get why people would rather see animals > killed--especially when > AFoA> they have the chance to go to the WAP--that's pretty much the luxury > hotel > AFoA> of zoos for WAs.. > > True enough. But assuming that these elephants don't represent an > endangered species, why protect THESE elephants as opposed to many > others? In fact, even if they ARE endangered, why protect these > particular ones? Doesn't the WAP already have a number of elephants? > How many can they possibly afford to feed, house, etc. When will they > have to start their own culling? > Why do you feel that you have to set their agenda? Don't you think they can set their own? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 12:05:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CH5b0m002919 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:05:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:05:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E289B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:55:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:55:11 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGtAch032291 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:55:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16172415 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:01:13 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:55:30 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:55:09 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1026247149.20050412105509@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=67176, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 10:41 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I just don't get why people would rather see animals killed--especially when AFoA> they have the chance to go to the WAP--that's pretty much the luxury hotel AFoA> of zoos for WAs.. True enough. But assuming that these elephants don't represent an endangered species, why protect THESE elephants as opposed to many others? In fact, even if they ARE endangered, why protect these particular ones? Doesn't the WAP already have a number of elephants? How many can they possibly afford to feed, house, etc. When will they have to start their own culling? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 12:05:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CH5b0m002917 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:05:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:05:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2795@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:54:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:54:10 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CGsAY5032097 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:54:10 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-211.gwi.net [216.195.164.211]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3CGs40o072012; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:54:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050412124554.01c0cd78@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:53:59 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:41 PM 4/12/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > At that time a group of animal >rights organizations, Aha---the lunatic fringe. There was a time when animal-rights groups were an effective force in raising public awareness about some of the cruelties. Like a lot of groups, however, having accomplished quite a bit, they kept extending the crusade. Now, I believe that Dennis Miller's characterization of them is apt---that they are the kind of people who will step on a derelict lying in the gutter in order to get close enough to spit on someone wearing a fur coat. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 12:07:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CH780m003070 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:07:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:07:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E29A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:07:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 211103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:07:08 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CH77bg002401 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:07:07 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 11B951AB53F34 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:07:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001201c53f82$208f5590$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002601c53f7f$1d5148f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <1073535038.20050412105543@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: McAfeud Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:07:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yeah. I'll have to look into that. - D. M. > Can't you train it to accept all email from the list address? You > should be able to. > > 4/12/2005, 10:46 AM, Doris Markland wrote: > > DM> My new McAfee program gets all upset > DM> by words-l mail and keeps giving a > DM> warning that there could be dangerous > DM> mail because there have been several > DM> in a row with the same subject. > > DM> - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 12:15:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CHFY0m003858 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:15:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:15:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E29D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:15:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 211786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:15:33 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CHFXWw004130 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:15:33 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16016412 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:27:42 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:15:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:15:31 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <229748357.20050412111531@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050412100355b3dfcb@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> <1026247149.20050412105509@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412100355b3dfcb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=54845, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 11:03 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Why do you feel that you have to set their agenda? Don't you think they can AFoA> set their own? Of course they can. But just as you may choose to criticize the President's agenda, I may choose to criticize theirs, may I not? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 12:17:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CHH70m004075 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:17:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:17:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2821@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:17:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 212030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:17:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CHH6K3004508 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:17:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so40720nzo for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.12 with SMTP id b12mr273151nzc; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:17:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LbYIySPlkiUa7kFk6iiYmFLusANHSfWG9F51zr/dA9CSqIWMBxaw+jRmCQUZz8v+kJYYni3K/Zhz+bQV7ShwSyUq/DfsMpwCarWyWzHXq/4CHtOnRFCSsd1W7pFbQVCoP37JMq5SCPaxZgFwXTU5DmSQQCDcmPJF1gPVnndB9kA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041210173bb72c17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:17:06 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <229748357.20050412111531@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> <1026247149.20050412105509@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412100355b3dfcb@mail.gmail.com> <229748357.20050412111531@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CHH70m004075 On Apr 12, 2005 12:15 PM, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/12/2005, 11:03 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> Why do you feel that you have to set their agenda? Don't you think > they can > AFoA> set their own? > > Of course they can. But just as you may choose to criticize the > President's agenda, I may choose to criticize theirs, may I not? > You can do whatever you want to, Dan. So far, it's a free country. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 12:19:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CHJA0m004235 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:19:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:19:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E282D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:19:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 212206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:19:10 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CHJAZT004841 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:19:10 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-211.gwi.net [216.195.164.211]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3CHJ40o075973; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:19:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050412125621.01c16428@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:58:00 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: McAfeud In-Reply-To: <002601c53f7f$1d5148f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <002601c53f7f$1d5148f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:46 PM 4/12/2005, Doris Markland wrote: >My new McAfee program gets all upset >by words-l mail and keeps giving a >warning that there could be dangerous >mail because there have been several >in a row with the same subject. I don't recall all of the problems that Bonnie had with McAfee, but she ended up dumping it and installing Norton. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 12:36:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CHa80m006412 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:36:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:36:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2950@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:26:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 212673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:26:04 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CHQ3cp005963 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:26:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16017640 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:38:13 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:26:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:26:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <153865644.20050412112602@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041210173bb72c17@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> <1026247149.20050412105509@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412100355b3dfcb@mail.gmail.com> <229748357.20050412111531@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041210173bb72c17@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=54854, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 11:17 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Of course they can. But just as you may choose to criticize the >> President's agenda, I may choose to criticize theirs, may I not? >> AFoA> You can do whatever you want to, Dan. So far, it's a free country. As it will continue to be. And I appreciate you giving me your royal permission to criticize their agenda. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 12:56:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CHtn0m008244 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:55:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:56:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2AE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:55:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:55:49 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CHtgKw012898 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:55:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBED979F6 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:55:41 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16637-02 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:55:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C2C9796C for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:55:41 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425C0B89.2040700@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:55:21 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Life's little joys References: In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.004 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clo wrote: >Congrats! Adam Hartfield wrote: >Congratulations! > Thank you both! Sorry for the delay of answering. > What will you be called? Gramma (we didn't pronounce the D >in grandma) was my father's mother and Granny was my mother's mother. > I'll probably insist on calling me as Grandmother/ vanaema: vana 'old', ema 'mother'. I don't want to hear 'mamma' or 'mammi' or i-don't-know-what-other name. If I were a bit older, maybe 'memm' would be acceptable (somehow this "vana-" in the compund doesn't seem to indicate to one's age as much as the actually nice and caring word "memm".) I do not know the other Granny's preferences, never met her either. She's a so-called Volga-German (coming from a population of Germans once settled at the River Volga) and lives in Germany now. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:16:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIGj0m010566 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:16:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:16:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2B00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:16:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:16:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CI6jvD015457 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:06:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 14133 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:06:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:06:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050412180644.GA12179@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050412053110.GA59209@words-l.org> <018501c53f5d$cf343220$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <018501c53f5d$cf343220$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 08:47:37AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > >Apologies to 'Al ... I just read some chapter excerpts > >and the book seems interesting ... > > 'Will find out soon enough... copies are shipping. Appreciative of its > outside-the-box thinking, I hope it's also written for the AADD reader. ;-) That's a pretty small box ... But not only is it outside that box, it's also "politically incorrect", AND it has roused the ire of BOTH SIDES. What a brave book! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:18:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIIU0m010757 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:18:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:18:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2BCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:18:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:18:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CI8Uox015907 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:08:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 14557 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:08:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:08:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: interesting article Message-ID: <20050412180830.GB12179@words-l.org> References: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> <201429542.20050411131727@gailndan.com> <20050411194657.GC73471@words-l.org> <1368544012.20050411142648@gailndan.com> <20050412021554.GA31295@words-l.org> <108969011.20050412070729@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <108969011.20050412070729@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 07:07:29AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/11/2005, 8:15 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> Nope. Don't have any postit notes around more than a week old. > > DMH> You have a 100-foot long office? > > non sequiter alert! Sigh ... do you really want me to expand it to a chain of one-syllable sequits? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:23:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CINX0m011248 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:23:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:23:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2B3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:23:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 217320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:23:32 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIDQYC016893 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:13:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 16755 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:13:26 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:13:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF Message-ID: <20050412181326.GC12179@words-l.org> References: <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 07:11:43AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/11/2005, 8:48 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> Oh, you can wear any footwear in California. Or no footwear at all. > > Same for any other item of clothing. > > Of course if you go topless in SF most any time of the year, you will > have perky nipples. And that's fine. It's California, anything goes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:24:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIOj0m011402 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:24:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:24:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2C16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:24:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:24:44 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CIOiP0019866 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:24:44 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D7797AA7 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:24:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19734-04 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:24:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8213597AA3 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:24:42 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:24:21 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.244 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. > I'm not going to answer, or probably even discuss it with the aim to find the right answer. But the subject is in some association with the lecture I listened today. A wonderful zoosemiotician, and a wonderful speaker, Aleksei Turovski, who works at Tallinn Zoo gave it. Among other things he spoke about animals in zoos, and about elephants, too -- how the latter are some of the most problematic animals in a zoo. They must have been tamed, and taming/training exercises must take place every day. Otherwise they want to take the initiative. He also talked about the sexual behaviours of both elephants and other animals -- in both wild and caged conditions. In a way, it turned out (although he didn't formulate it exactly as that) the natural sexual behaviour is not repressed by the animals' being sad and unhappy but rather by the rules of their social behaviour. The rules work differently where there are few animals, like in a zoo, the hierarchies are different, etc. It was far from being the first time I listened to Turovski for he has spoken in radio broadcasts as well, and my sons listened to his series of lectures last year in Tartu university (he gives lectures there every other year). He's at least as interesting as Konrad Lorenz or Niko Tinbergen. But I'd avoid asking him the question above. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:25:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIPM0m011490 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:25:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:25:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2A58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:25:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 217438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:25:22 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIFJ1x017246 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:15:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 18403 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:15:19 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:15:19 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 07:13:48AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/11/2005, 9:48 PM, Alan Wild wrote: > > AW> THAT's not a war-surf!!!.... THIS is war-surfing!!!... > > AW> http://savetoby.com > > Well, PayPal has shut down the account. Since it is almost to 25K, > apparently, maybe the guy will only eat half of toby I doubt it was 25K ... probably just a "swetener". Why did they shut down the account? Of, because they are PayPal. Of course! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:31:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIUo0m012283 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:30:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:31:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00EFF244@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:30:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:30:49 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CIUmJD021159 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:30:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16245014 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:52:31 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:31:07 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:30:47 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <285965038.20050412123047@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: interesting article In-Reply-To: <20050412180830.GB12179@words-l.org> References: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> <201429542.20050411131727@gailndan.com> <20050411194657.GC73471@words-l.org> <1368544012.20050411142648@gailndan.com> <20050412021554.GA31295@words-l.org> <108969011.20050412070729@gailndan.com> <20050412180830.GB12179@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 161, in=56369, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 12:08 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> DMH> You have a 100-foot long office? >> >> non sequiter alert! DMH> Sigh ... do you really want me to expand it to a chain DMH> of one-syllable sequits? WTF? Wouldn't be the first time. Or the last, I'm sure. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbA0m012724 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2A6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:27:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 217636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:27:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIHTe8017764 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:17:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 19391 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:17:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:17:29 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Post-Its Message-ID: <20050412181728.GE12179@words-l.org> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 07:46:34AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 7:16 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> Your own cite demonstrates your full-of-shitness. > > As you wish. And bless your heart. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbA0m012723 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2B89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:31:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:31:40 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CIVddd021372 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:31:40 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16025166 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:43:50 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:31:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:31:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <116187478.20050412123138@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <20050412181326.GC12179@words-l.org> References: <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> <20050412181326.GC12179@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=54903, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 12:13 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Of course if you go topless in SF most any time of the year, you will >> have perky nipples. DMH> And that's fine. It's California, anything goes. Absolutely. Was just trying to help Natalie put in context of her ideas of "winter" and "summer". She'll never find a day in SF that compares to summer in MS. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbA0m012719 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2B6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:27:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:27:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CIR9h3020484 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:27:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so76380nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.8 with SMTP id g8mr278064nzg; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:27:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JpdrZeRCFmmVZ01mEUjDfyGHhd8EZmNHDMWsDvS6FKskjw242cGXuSlpjoiz92hz4bb4+u7MX8nLIRFTUezRFZAio/nr6pkouD8CXHDfQVS9gmwtH/FwCU//7XP0IB9qvWwKkYAkO+uQxU6Fht5SKzHbfxCMgB1rUgz2f2BmTPk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504121127288239d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:27:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: interesting article In-Reply-To: <108969011.20050412070729@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> <201429542.20050411131727@gailndan.com> <20050411194657.GC73471@words-l.org> <1368544012.20050411142648@gailndan.com> <20050412021554.GA31295@words-l.org> <108969011.20050412070729@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CIbA0m012719 On Apr 12, 2005 8:07 AM, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/11/2005, 8:15 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> Nope. Don't have any postit notes around more than a week old. > > DMH> You have a 100-foot long office? > > non sequiter alert! > sequitur -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbA0m012725 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2B7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:28:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 217779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:28:44 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIIhAo018110 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:18:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 19810 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:18:43 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:18:43 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050412181843.GF12179@words-l.org> References: <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <01bd01c53f65$12dbab00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1729887130.20050412074840@gailndan.com> <83db447a050412071233af4bd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83db447a050412071233af4bd@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 10:12:58AM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On Apr 12, 2005 9:48 AM, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > > > What does it matter who eats it? > > Exactly. The only issue is how well it is prepared. Moral issue, or otherwise? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbA0n012724 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2C5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:32:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:32:29 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIMSHF019201 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:22:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 21900 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:22:28 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:22:28 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050412182228.GG12179@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <613473632.20050412101215@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <613473632.20050412101215@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 10:12:15AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 9:48 AM, Doris Markland wrote: > > DM> Maybe > DM> they could use the money to create a gun > DM> that would shoot a vial of neutering fluid > DM> into the toms. > > Why not the females as well? Are they "queens" in proper parlance > among cat folks? Anyway, it takes two, and all that. And the females > coming into season are what inspires the toms. I'd vote for an equal > opportunity fluid that would neuter both genders. Also avoids the > problem of trying to determine at a distance whether they're male or > female. Are you out of your mind? It might fall in terrorist hands. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbA0n012723 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2AA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:33:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:33:17 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CINHSs019494 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:23:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 22373 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:23:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:23:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050412182317.GH12179@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <022301c53f72$2c64eac0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050412083636862f3c@mail.gmail.com> <173810597.20050412101027@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <173810597.20050412101027@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 10:10:27AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 9:36 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> Ask Martha Stewart. > > AFoA> Why her? > > Well, duuuhhh....come on Friend, you're smarter than that. Because > she's an animal. Because she was in the zoo for five months, and now > she is now fenced in on the farm for another five before she gets to > run wild again. The cite you got this from is well known for its full-of-shitness. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbA0n012719 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2AAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:33:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:33:37 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CIXaTx022025 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:33:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16245331 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:55:19 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:33:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:33:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 161, in=56371, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 12:15 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Well, PayPal has shut down the account. Since it is almost to 25K, >> apparently, maybe the guy will only eat half of toby DMH> I doubt it was 25K ... probably just a "swetener". Probably so. DMH> Why did they shut down the account? Of, because they are PayPal. Well, I'd guess because it is probably fraud, and they don't want to be a party to the fraud. But, yes, they can because it is their business. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbP0m012772 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2C6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:33:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:33:50 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CINoJd019676 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:23:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 22506 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:23:50 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:23:50 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050412182350.GI12179@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <1336597235.20050412100903@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1336597235.20050412100903@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 10:09:03AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 9:10 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> Are animals better off dead than in zoos? Discuss. > > All depends on the zoo. In some cases yes. In most cases no. > > > And, the corollary.... > > Are convicted murderers who admit their crime and wish to be executed > better off locked in prison for the rest of their lives? Discuss. Ask Martha Stewart. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbA0n012725 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2C76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:34:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:34:11 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CIY0PE022254 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:34:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16025432 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:46:11 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:33:59 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <524186622.20050412123359@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Post-Its In-Reply-To: <20050412181728.GE12179@words-l.org> References: <20050411200330.GA83052@words-l.org> <1866128951.20050411142852@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705041113383b7cbc69@mail.gmail.com> <20050412022714.GC31295@words-l.org> <08824688.20050412071037@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412061650361b1a@mail.gmail.com> <1662107494.20050412074634@gailndan.com> <20050412181728.GE12179@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=54906, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 12:17 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> AFoA> Your own cite demonstrates your full-of-shitness. >> >> As you wish. DMH> And bless your heart. Thank you, kind sir. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbA0o012723 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2AC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:37:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:37:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIRKnD020534 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:27:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 24672 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:27:20 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:27:20 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050412182720.GK12179@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000201c53f79$f0a5fd50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705041209246067e0cf@mail.gmail.com> <196223087.20050412102637@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <196223087.20050412102637@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 10:26:37AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 10:24 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> Ah, the Terri Shiavo question again. > >> > > AFoA> That's a pretty disgusting comparison. > > Why? She was in her own prison/jail/bars. LIFE's a jail, you know. So, the corollary ... Is it better to be dead than gently kissing behinds day after day? Discuss. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:37:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIbA0o012724 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2C83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:36:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:36:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIQ87Q020226 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:26:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 24390 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:26:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:26:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050412182608.GJ12179@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705041208503a68f556@mail.gmail.com> <1004309899.20050412101304@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1004309899.20050412101304@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 10:13:04AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 9:50 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> From the cat's point of view, I suspect that many of them like to run wild. > AFoA> They are hunters, after all. > > Then the Madison folks should indeed start hunting them. To a > considerable extent we avoid that problem by having a sufficient > number of coyotes around, at least for now. And, the corollary ... Is it a good idea to cut down on crime by having a sufficient number of vigilantes around? Discuss. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:41:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIew0m013084 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:41:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:41:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EFF35D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:40:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:39:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CITXTl020975 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:29:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 26050 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:29:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:29:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050412182933.GL12179@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:32:51PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Canines probably suffer more in captivity than do felines. Is there a scientific, reproducible, cross-species measure of suffering, based on a falsifiable, still-standing hypothesis? Because this statement sounds morally leprous to me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:43:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIh10m013248 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:43:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:43:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EFF419@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:43:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:41:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIVlvp021420 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:31:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 27359 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:31:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:31:47 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050412183147.GM12179@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> <1026247149.20050412105509@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412100355b3dfcb@mail.gmail.com> <229748357.20050412111531@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <229748357.20050412111531@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:15:31AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > But just as you may choose to criticize the President's agenda, Gasp! Does anyone know? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:43:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIhQ0m013302 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:43:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:43:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2C1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:43:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:43:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIXPXc021992 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:33:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 27940 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:33:25 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:33:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: interesting article Message-ID: <20050412183325.GA27634@words-l.org> References: <20050411174535.GA13213@words-l.org> <201429542.20050411131727@gailndan.com> <20050411194657.GC73471@words-l.org> <1368544012.20050411142648@gailndan.com> <20050412021554.GA31295@words-l.org> <108969011.20050412070729@gailndan.com> <20050412180830.GB12179@words-l.org> <285965038.20050412123047@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <285965038.20050412123047@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:30:47PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 12:08 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> DMH> You have a 100-foot long office? > >> > >> non sequiter alert! > > DMH> Sigh ... do you really want me to expand it to a chain > DMH> of one-syllable sequits? > > WTF? Wouldn't be the first time. Or the last, I'm sure. Fine. I bow to your brilliance. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:44:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIiX0m013401 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:44:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:44:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2DE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:44:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:44:33 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIYWUc022438 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:34:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 28887 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:34:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:34:32 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF Message-ID: <20050412183432.GB27634@words-l.org> References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> <20050412181326.GC12179@words-l.org> <116187478.20050412123138@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <116187478.20050412123138@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:31:38PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 12:13 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> Of course if you go topless in SF most any time of the year, you will > >> have perky nipples. > > DMH> And that's fine. It's California, anything goes. > > Absolutely. Was just trying to help Natalie put in context of her > ideas of "winter" and "summer". She'll never find a day in SF that > compares to summer in MS. Dan ... it's California, man. You can wear anything to any event. Or nothing at all. Nobody gives a damn in California. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:46:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIkG0m013545 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:46:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:46:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2DF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:46:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:46:16 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIaFk5022854 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:36:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 30860 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:36:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:36:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050412183615.GA29061@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:33:35PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 12:15 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> Well, PayPal has shut down the account. Since it is almost to 25K, > >> apparently, maybe the guy will only eat half of toby > > DMH> I doubt it was 25K ... probably just a "swetener". > > Probably so. > > DMH> Why did they shut down the account? Of, because they are PayPal. > > Well, I'd guess because it is probably fraud, and they don't want to > be a party to the fraud. > > But, yes, they can because it is their business. Right on. Fuckem all. BFD. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:48:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CImi0m013751 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:48:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:48:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFF428@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:48:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 222746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:48:38 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CImcfd025093 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:48:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16230718 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:48:59 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:48:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:48:36 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <879893324.20050412124836@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <20050412182720.GK12179@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000201c53f79$f0a5fd50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705041209246067e0cf@mail.gmail.com> <196223087.20050412102637@gailndan.com> <20050412182720.GK12179@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=54000, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 12:27 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> LIFE's a jail, you know. DMH> So, the corollary ... DMH> Is it better to be dead than gently kissing behinds day DMH> after day? Discuss. All depends on the behind that is being kissed. There are MANY that are well worth kissing. Should I start a list besides the obvious one? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:49:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CInj0m013901 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:49:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:49:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2D4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:49:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 222883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:49:45 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CIni2O025359 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:49:44 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16027212 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:01:55 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:04 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:49:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1558479506.20050412124943@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Zoos In-Reply-To: <20050412183147.GM12179@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> <1026247149.20050412105509@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050412100355b3dfcb@mail.gmail.com> <229748357.20050412111531@gailndan.com> <20050412183147.GM12179@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=54916, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 12:31 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:15:31AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >> But just as you may choose to criticize the President's agenda, DMH> Gasp! Does anyone know? Know the agenda? Well, considering all of those who are criticizing same, they must think there is one. Unless they're just bitching and moaning for the sake of bitching and moaning. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 13:51:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CIpK0m014115 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:51:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:51:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00EFF494@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:51:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 223044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:51:20 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CIpJq8025651 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:51:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16027400 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:03:30 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:51:39 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:51:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1023343318.20050412125118@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <20050412183615.GA29061@words-l.org> References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> <20050412183615.GA29061@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 165, in=54921, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 12:36 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> DMH> Why did they shut down the account? Of, because they are PayPal. >> >> Well, I'd guess because it is probably fraud, and they don't want to >> be a party to the fraud. >> >> But, yes, they can because it is their business. DMH> Right on. Fuckem all. BFD. Absofuckinglutely. My business, my choice of how to run it. And Paypal's in their case. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 14:00:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CJ0Y0m014971 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:00:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:00:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2D53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:50:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 222938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:50:33 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CIoXPp025474 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:50:33 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16247326 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:12:16 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:50:32 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1023010886.20050412125032@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <20050412183432.GB27634@words-l.org> References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> <20050412181326.GC12179@words-l.org> <116187478.20050412123138@gailndan.com> <20050412183432.GB27634@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 161, in=56386, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 12:34 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> DMH> And that's fine. It's California, anything goes. >> >> Absolutely. Was just trying to help Natalie put in context of her >> ideas of "winter" and "summer". She'll never find a day in SF that >> compares to summer in MS. DMH> Dan ... it's California, man. You can wear anything to any DMH> event. Or nothing at all. Nobody gives a damn in California. Well, now that we've established for the third time we're in agreement on that, WTF is your problem? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 14:21:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CJL00m017896 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:21:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:21:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFF670@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:21:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:21:00 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CJL0q2001162 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:21:00 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 463D23075092 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:20:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002801c53f94$d3a89e40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000201c53f79$f0a5fd50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705041209246067e0cf@mail.gmail.com> <196223087.20050412102637@gailndan.com> <20050412182720.GK12179@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Re: Zoos Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:21:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > LIFE's a jail, you know. > > So, the corollary ... > > Is it better to be dead than gently kissing behinds day > after day? Discuss. It is better to be so alive that you do well and move up the line with others kissing your behind. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 14:29:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CJSu0m018681 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:28:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:29:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2E00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:08:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 223806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:08:51 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CIwmnN027260 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:58:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 41955 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 18:58:48 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:58:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050412185848.GA41079@words-l.org> References: <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> <20050412183615.GA29061@words-l.org> <1023343318.20050412125118@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1023343318.20050412125118@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:51:18PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 12:36 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> DMH> Why did they shut down the account? Of, because they are PayPal. > >> > >> Well, I'd guess because it is probably fraud, and they don't want to > >> be a party to the fraud. > >> > >> But, yes, they can because it is their business. > > DMH> Right on. Fuckem all. BFD. > > Absofuckinglutely. My business, my choice of how to run it. And > Paypal's in their case. No shit. When a business is handling other people's money, nothing better be fucking regulated. It's a business, it's their choice. So, now that this is the third time you agree with me, I have to ask, WTF is your problem? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 14:29:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CJSu0m018680 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:28:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:29:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2DDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:20:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:20:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CJKJXY000996 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:20:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so90495nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr281766nzc; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:20:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nNLpTUS+9ogdGJiVrb8QLPzz3RCteLjJwxGLfIs9hS69kbWMyevC5dZg+nFuyWn/qWH/H5xqQu09OgobULldQMjmhsYJFID/cO7eb4P25yLujN/6zlqh3+CaZIX91D8/mqa4SryJ0Wb/fSxLNIZlbsgKW9hLir8L2R8j1alZiVM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041212203e589317@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:20:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CJSu0m018680 On Apr 12, 2005 1:24 PM, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > But the subject is in some association with the lecture I listened > today. A wonderful zoosemiotician, and a wonderful speaker, Aleksei > Turovski, who works at Tallinn Zoo gave it. What is a zoosemiotician?! The Wild Animal Park is not like most zoos; they really try to recreate the natural habitat. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 14:29:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CJSu0m018678 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:28:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:29:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E2F11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:12:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 224258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:12:01 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CJ20Sd028014 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:02:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 44171 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 19:02:00 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:01:59 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF Message-ID: <20050412190159.GB41079@words-l.org> References: <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> <20050412181326.GC12179@words-l.org> <116187478.20050412123138@gailndan.com> <20050412183432.GB27634@words-l.org> <1023010886.20050412125032@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1023010886.20050412125032@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:50:32PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 12:34 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> DMH> And that's fine. It's California, anything goes. > >> > >> Absolutely. Was just trying to help Natalie put in context of her > >> ideas of "winter" and "summer". She'll never find a day in SF that > >> compares to summer in MS. > > DMH> Dan ... it's California, man. You can wear anything to any > DMH> event. Or nothing at all. Nobody gives a damn in California. > > Well, now that we've established for the third time we're in agreement > on that, WTF is your problem? If it's come to criticizing agendas, Dan, I yield to your superior intelliegence. All I would like to add is that since it's a free country, and will always be, Californians are can wear whateverTF they want, whereverTF they are. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 14:29:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CJSu0m018676 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:28:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:29:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E2D2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:10:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 225320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:09:49 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CJ9mtl029491 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:09:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B4C97AB1 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:09:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24563-08 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:09:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30C897AE9 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:09:46 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425C1CE4.2050608@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:09:24 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.253 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > He's at least as interesting as Konrad Lorenz or Niko > Tinbergen. This sentence, sure, only shows my ignorance in the field of the research of animals' behaviour -- there must be many researchers I do not know nothing about. Btw, when sending the recent message I didn't know Turovski had his home page but here it is: http://www.ut.ee/SOSE/aturovski/ -- not very much information perhaps. Googling for images of him there may be better photos as to his features but the one on his home page is characteristic as well. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 14:31:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CJV40m018972 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:31:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:31:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2FAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:31:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 229809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:31:04 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CJV3iB003456 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:31:04 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A01B97B01 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:31:03 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28064-07 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:31:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9CA97AFD for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:31:02 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425C21E0.5010603@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:30:40 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041212203e589317@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041212203e589317@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.261 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >What is a zoosemiotician?! > He is educated as a zoologist, or a biologist as general, but there are biologists who use methods/tools taken from semiotics for approaching their fields of interest. I'm not familiar with their methodology but it is not hard to imagine the paradigma sign-signifier-signified to be used in the research of animals' behaviour. They do not restrict themselves to that only parallel with semiotics, of course, but I'm not able to go deeper. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 14:34:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CJYr0m019360 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:34:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:34:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E2FD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:34:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 230319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:34:53 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CJYqOH004264 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:34:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EB497B02 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:34:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28729-10 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:34:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607DA97AE1 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:34:51 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425C22C4.9030604@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:34:28 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041212203e589317@mail.gmail.com> <425C21E0.5010603@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <425C21E0.5010603@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.269 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> What is a zoosemiotician?! >> > > ...biologists who use methods/tools taken from semiotics for approaching > their fields of interest... Also: you may have a look at the two links to his papers online given on his home page. These probably explain the notion better. http://www.ut.ee/SOSE/aturovski/ Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 14:43:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CJhh0m020181 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:43:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:43:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E3046@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:43:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:43:43 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CJhgrs006827 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:43:43 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16238766 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:44:04 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:44:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:43:41 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <398930210.20050412134341@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <20050412185848.GA41079@words-l.org> References: <000601c53eb4$7173d860$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> <20050412183615.GA29061@words-l.org> <1023343318.20050412125118@gailndan.com> <20050412185848.GA41079@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.322000 Adult word fucking=0.7,Adult word fuck=0.7 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=54038, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 12:58 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Absofuckinglutely. My business, my choice of how to run it. And >> Paypal's in their case. DMH> No shit. When a business is handling other people's money, DMH> nothing better be fucking regulated. It's a business, it's All businesses handle other people's money. That's what businesses do. As to regulation, sure there should be some. But as of now, this one doesn't count as a bank, so it doesn't fit regulations AFAIK. Now if congress or someone wants to regulate it, fine. Not my problem or business. DMH> their choice. So, now that this is the third time you agree DMH> with me, I have to ask, WTF is your problem? I don't have any problems. Andy's friend does, though. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 15:03:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CK3m0m022174 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:03:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:03:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E31F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:03:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:03:47 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CJr83q009084 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:53:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 82397 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 19:53:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:53:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050412195307.GA81170@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000201c53f79$f0a5fd50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705041209246067e0cf@mail.gmail.com> <196223087.20050412102637@gailndan.com> <20050412182720.GK12179@words-l.org> <002801c53f94$d3a89e40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002801c53f94$d3a89e40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 02:21:28PM -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > >LIFE's a jail, you know. > > > >So, the corollary ... > > > >Is it better to be dead than gently kissing behinds day > >after day? Discuss. > > > It is better to be so alive that you > do well and move up the line > with others kissing your behind. That strays from the theme of the thread: moronic Republican analogies. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 15:06:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CK6j0m022433 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:06:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:06:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E331E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:06:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:06:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CJui3J009533 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:56:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 84569 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 19:56:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:56:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050412195644.GB81170@words-l.org> References: <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> <20050412183615.GA29061@words-l.org> <1023343318.20050412125118@gailndan.com> <20050412185848.GA41079@words-l.org> <398930210.20050412134341@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <398930210.20050412134341@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 01:43:41PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > DMH> No shit. When a business is handling other people's money, > DMH> nothing better be fucking regulated. It's a business, it's > > All businesses handle other people's money. Of course! That's why any business can be compared with any other. All analogies hold. > Not my problem or business. Absofuckinglutely. So, if $25K was indeed in the account, perhaps due to 25,000 dumb fuckers sending in a dollar apiece, you can freeze it and pocket the money--since you aren't a fucking bank. (Ignoring the possibility that Congress might make a law ... and that's not my problem anyway). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 15:12:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CKCP0m023025 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:12:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:12:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFFB4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:02:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:02:21 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CK2L9Q010581; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:02:21 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 93617641; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:02:21 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050412130154.00b549b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:02:20 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF In-Reply-To: <20050412190159.GB41079@words-l.org> References: <1023010886.20050412125032@gailndan.com> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> <20050412181326.GC12179@words-l.org> <116187478.20050412123138@gailndan.com> <20050412183432.GB27634@words-l.org> <1023010886.20050412125032@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:01 PM 4/12/2005 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >If it's come to criticizing agendas, Dan, I yield to your >superior intelliegence. All I would like to add is that >since it's a free country, and will always be, Californians >are can wear whateverTF they want, whereverTF they are. Thank you. Who axed you anyway? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 15:53:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CKri0m027026 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:53:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:53:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E34A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:53:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:53:44 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CKrhKP021288 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:53:44 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16247950 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:54:04 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:54:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:53:42 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1945835447.20050412145342@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'Anybody... In-Reply-To: <20050412195644.GB81170@words-l.org> References: <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> <20050412183615.GA29061@words-l.org> <1023343318.20050412125118@gailndan.com> <20050412185848.GA41079@words-l.org> <398930210.20050412134341@gailndan.com> <20050412195644.GB81170@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.322000 Adult word fucking=0.7,Adult word fuck=0.7 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=54095, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 1:56 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> So, if $25K was indeed in the account, perhaps due to DMH> 25,000 dumb fuckers sending in a dollar apiece, you can DMH> freeze it and pocket the money--since you aren't a fucking DMH> bank. (Ignoring the possibility that Congress might make DMH> a law ... and that's not my problem anyway). Well, if that was the case, it wouldn't bother me at all. But that's the least likely situation. I'd bet that there never was that much money in it. I'd also bet that the money would be credited back to those who sent it in, though the suckers would deserve it if they just lost it, which they did anyway. Paypal keeping it would serve all parties appropriately. Why not screw the perpetrators of the scam, if not toss them in jail with their bunny? Why not screw the terminally stupid? Discuss in less than five screens. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 15:56:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CKub0m027246 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:56:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:56:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E33B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:56:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:56:37 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CKubHO021914 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:56:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00EFFDDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:56:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200504122056.j3CKubHO021914@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:56:36 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:26 -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not quite >spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a little later, >then back to snow showers tonight. > cwv We're wandering around under blue skies, with stunned looks on our faces. MEanwhile, half the Geography dept has had to cancel classes b/c profs and TAs were snowed in at a conference in Denver. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 16:01:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CL0b0m027468 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:00:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:00:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E351F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:00:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:00:35 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CL0ZTJ024176 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:00:35 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E341B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:00:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200504122100.j3CL0ZTJ024176@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:00:33 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Zoos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:29:33 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:32:51PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> Canines probably suffer more in captivity than do felines. > >Is there a scientific, reproducible, cross-species measure of >suffering, based on a falsifiable, still-standing hypothesis? >Because this statement sounds morally leprous to me. Ask Martha Stewart. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 16:24:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CLO10m029199 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:24:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:24:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E368E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:24:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:24:01 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CLO1vH027466 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:24:01 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-211.gwi.net [216.195.164.211]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3CLNu7E056676; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:24:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050412172018.01c1a5c8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:23:52 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <200504122100.j3CL0ZTJ024176@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504122100.j3CL0ZTJ024176@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:00 PM 4/12/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:29:33 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > > >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:32:51PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >> Canines probably suffer more in captivity than do felines. > > > >Is there a scientific, reproducible, cross-species measure of > >suffering, based on a falsifiable, still-standing hypothesis? > >Because this statement sounds morally leprous to me. > >Ask Martha Stewart. Don't waste your time, Clo. Like most ignorant people who nevertheless believe that they are expert in everything, he spends most of his time trying to be a smartass and fails miserably even at that. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 16:25:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CLPR0m029349 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:25:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:25:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E36A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:25:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:25:26 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CLFQbk026517 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:15:26 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j3CLFQJM003786 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:15:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200504122115.j3CLFQJM003786@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From clo: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:26 -0400, Clyde Voigtlander > wrote: > > >A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not > quite > >spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a little later, > >then back to snow showers tonight. > > cwv > > We're wandering around under blue skies, with stunned looks on our faces. > MEanwhile, half the Geography dept has had to cancel classes b/c profs > and TAs were snowed in at a conference in Denver. As I type this at 5:15 PM EDT, there is a snow shower here in Boston !!! It is very tiny flakes and likely is not sticking ... But enough already ... just when all the accumulated winter snow had finally melted ... Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 16:25:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CLPU0m029355 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:25:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:25:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E34DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:25:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:25:29 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CLPT2N027653 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:25:29 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so2067681wri for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.17 with SMTP id t17mr3787018wra; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:25:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SFo5La75f3ZuG9afHQP1WleCbC+55zoYa0Fg9sGUkno2XtYjdv2dpBuUYo9KNb9vRTp+oao3Z36np4hFkiyLIh+6zByj3644at4Zt+B578aSyHS1Ji1pMwcnUaobdKSsbS2bJAUwHnBavvTsI1Jk9d9LyjOroECrvWwt/jphIdE= Message-ID: <83db447a050412142519916108@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:25:28 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... In-Reply-To: <200504122056.j3CKubHO021914@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504122056.j3CKubHO021914@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CLPU0m029355 On Apr 12, 2005 4:56 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:26 -0400, Clyde Voigtlander > wrote: > > >A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not > quite > >spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a little later, > >then back to snow showers tonight. > > cwv > > We're wandering around under blue skies, with stunned looks on our faces. > MEanwhile, half the Geography dept has had to cancel classes b/c profs > and TAs were snowed in at a conference in Denver. Irony. Lovely. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 16:27:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CLRk0m029594 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:27:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:27:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E35E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:27:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:27:42 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CLRfDh027819 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:27:42 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3CLRf7Q008695 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:27:41 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3CLOxCA031980 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:25:01 -0400 Message-ID: <016201c53fa6$18637760$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> <20050412183615.GA29061@words-l.org> <1023343318.20050412125118@gailndan.com> <20050412185848.GA41079@words-l.org> <398930210.20050412134341@gailndan.com> <20050412195644.GB81170@words-l.org> <1945835447.20050412145342@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:25:03 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" > Why not screw the terminally > stupid? > > Discuss in less than five screens. Because they make good pets? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 16:29:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CLTg0m029768 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:29:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:29:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E35F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:29:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:29:42 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CLTgkp028001 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:29:42 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3CLTc7i008767 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:29:42 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3CLR8CA032568 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:27:09 -0400 Message-ID: <016b01c53fa6$64fbc5f0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <004801c53d0d$295a7370$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <009c01c53ebd$bdd374a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <00c601c53ebf$c062e730$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050411193342.GA73471@words-l.org> <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <01bd01c53f65$12dbab00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1729887130.20050412074840@gailndan.com> <83db447a050412071233af4bd@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c53f6e$ad653250$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120210.01bef518@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: 'Anybody... Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:27:12 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Do you know, spit-roasting rabbits sounds like a great Wordslur retreat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Tuesday, 12 April, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: Re: 'Anybody... > At 11:23 AM 4/12/2005, bonniemaev wrote: > >> Spit-roasted is the only way I've personally seen Clyde eat rabbit. > > I've had rabbit spit-roasted (domestic rabbit, at Fore Street). I've also > had it roasted and fried (wild rabbit). The mother of my best friend in > high school made sweet and sour (wild) rabbit---probably a Hungarian > variation of hasenpfeffer---that was out of this world. > > cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 16:35:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CLZj0m030399 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:35:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:35:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E351F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:35:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:35:45 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3CLZiNI028639 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:35:45 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2030918wri for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.13.77 with SMTP id 77mr424246wrm; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:35:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CipQnuo1OnDH5Kc0ghMgcpkxT1iA+2rYLVxYWVHVgQs+buViV30VnXztlCjWbsxl2j84aNmVmwtssCKrK8TGl6lOWfMe1+RAtiUASccqjUvXzDmN4Gsm95cV4EqfjClmVdpOiE+w/hgczTPZM7fm1ZlYXH+eBErKJFh/RvlIdGA= Message-ID: <83db447a0504121435487337e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:35:41 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... In-Reply-To: <200504122115.j3CLFQJM003786@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504122115.j3CLFQJM003786@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3CLZj0m030399 On Apr 12, 2005 5:15 PM, Joan Boorstein wrote: > > > As I type this at 5:15 PM EDT, there is a snow shower here in Boston !!! > It is very tiny flakes and likely is not sticking ... > > But enough already ... just when all the accumulated winter snow had > finally > melted ... Although it has been snowing here---on and off---most of the day, none has accumulated save on the upper reaches of Cadillac, Dorr, and other mountains. The wind seems to have subsided now; although today probably gave the ANP staff some anxious moments, I suspect that they will be able to open the park roads on Friday as scheduled. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 17:55:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CMtG0m005000 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:55:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:55:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E3CE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:55:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 260237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:55:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CMjEfw004922 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:45:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 98405 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 22:45:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:45:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF Message-ID: <20050412224514.GA97149@words-l.org> References: <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> <20050412181326.GC12179@words-l.org> <116187478.20050412123138@gailndan.com> <20050412183432.GB27634@words-l.org> <1023010886.20050412125032@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050412130154.00b549b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050412130154.00b549b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 01:02:20PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 02:01 PM 4/12/2005 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >If it's come to criticizing agendas, Dan, I yield to your > >superior intelliegence. All I would like to add is that > >since it's a free country, and will always be, Californians > >are can wear whateverTF they want, whereverTF they are. > > Thank you. Who axed you anyway? Absofuckinglutely, gold star to you. I bow to your brilliance. Now that we've established we're in agreement, WTF is your problem? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 18:12:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CNCY0m006625 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E3DAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:10:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:10:13 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CN0CDO007894 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:00:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 7431 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 23:00:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:00:12 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050412230012.GF97149@words-l.org> References: <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> <20050412183615.GA29061@words-l.org> <1023343318.20050412125118@gailndan.com> <20050412185848.GA41079@words-l.org> <398930210.20050412134341@gailndan.com> <20050412195644.GB81170@words-l.org> <1945835447.20050412145342@gailndan.com> <016201c53fa6$18637760$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <016201c53fa6$18637760$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 05:25:03PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Lester" > > Why not screw the terminally stupid? > > > >Discuss in less than five screens. > > Because they make good pets? I knew some dumb fuckers wouldn't get the pun. "Terminal" ... "screens" ... get it? Heh From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 18:12:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CNCY0m006628 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E3CA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:09:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 262740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:09:16 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CMxFRC007562 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:59:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 6865 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 22:59:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:59:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... Message-ID: <20050412225915.GE97149@words-l.org> References: <200504122056.j3CKubHO021914@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050412142519916108@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83db447a050412142519916108@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 05:25:28PM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On Apr 12, 2005 4:56 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:26 -0400, Clyde Voigtlander > > wrote: > > > > >A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not > > quite > > >spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a little later, > > >then back to snow showers tonight. > > > cwv > > > > We're wandering around under blue skies, with stunned looks on our faces. > > MEanwhile, half the Geography dept has had to cancel classes b/c profs > > and TAs were snowed in at a conference in Denver. > > Irony. Lovely. Hm! So it's blue skies in Denver and snow in Syracuse! What an odd place to use "irony"! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 18:12:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CNCY0m006626 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E3E4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:06:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 261787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:06:24 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CMuNgp007054 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:56:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 5616 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 22:56:23 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:56:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050412225623.GC97149@words-l.org> References: <200504122100.j3CL0ZTJ024176@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504122100.j3CL0ZTJ024176@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 05:00:33PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:29:33 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog > wrote: > >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:32:51PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > >> Canines probably suffer more in captivity than do felines. > > > >Is there a scientific, reproducible, cross-species measure of > >suffering, based on a falsifiable, still-standing hypothesis? > >Because this statement sounds morally leprous to me. > > Ask Martha Stewart. Why, what's the analogy? Actually, BFD. Is there a web page that tells you about all the idiotic ways in which anything you name is metaphorically a "prison"? Just post the tinyurl. It would solve all debates--all you would have to do is ask Martha Stewart, a metaphorical "feline" in a metaphorical "zoo". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 18:12:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CNCY0m006627 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E3E5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:07:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 262394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:07:47 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CMvkMu007358 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:57:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 5938 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 22:57:46 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:57:46 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050412225746.GD97149@words-l.org> References: <200504122100.j3CL0ZTJ024176@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412172018.01c1a5c8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050412172018.01c1a5c8@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 05:23:52PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 05:00 PM 4/12/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:29:33 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog >L.ORG> wrote: > >>On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:32:51PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > > >>> Canines probably suffer more in captivity than do felines. > >> > >>Is there a scientific, reproducible, cross-species measure of > >>suffering, based on a falsifiable, still-standing hypothesis? > >>Because this statement sounds morally leprous to me. > > > >Ask Martha Stewart. > > Don't waste your time, Clo. Like most ignorant people who nevertheless > believe that they are expert in everything, he spends most of his time > trying to be a smartass and fails miserably even at that. These are the words of a captive animal! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 18:12:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3CNCY0m006624 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E3E2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:02:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 261123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:02:33 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3CMqW4B006433 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:52:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 2259 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Apr 2005 22:52:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:52:32 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Anybody... Message-ID: <20050412225232.GB97149@words-l.org> References: <00ba01c53f12$7de94d10$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6210425634.20050412071348@gailndan.com> <20050412181519.GD12179@words-l.org> <1323226689.20050412123335@gailndan.com> <20050412183615.GA29061@words-l.org> <1023343318.20050412125118@gailndan.com> <20050412185848.GA41079@words-l.org> <398930210.20050412134341@gailndan.com> <20050412195644.GB81170@words-l.org> <1945835447.20050412145342@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1945835447.20050412145342@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 02:53:42PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/12/2005, 1:56 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> So, if $25K was indeed in the account, perhaps due to > DMH> 25,000 dumb fuckers sending in a dollar apiece, you can > DMH> freeze it and pocket the money--since you aren't a fucking > DMH> bank. (Ignoring the possibility that Congress might make > DMH> a law ... and that's not my problem anyway). > > Well, if that was the case, it wouldn't bother me at all. But that's > the least likely situation. I'd bet that there never was that much > money in it. I'd also bet that the money would be credited back to > those who sent it in, though the suckers would deserve it if they just > lost it, which they did anyway. Paypal keeping it would serve all > parties appropriately. Why not screw the perpetrators of the scam, if > not toss them in jail with their bunny? Why not screw the terminally > stupid? > > Discuss in less than five screens. Well, we are at least in agreement that someone's BETTER BE SCREWED, and the screwed one better not be a BUSINESS, and better be a terminally STUPID dumb fucker. Gold star to you. I won't ask what "analogy" led you to this revelation because that's not my problem and BFD. It shines with the light of truth and ass-kicking and that's enough for me. Let us both agree, then, that if a SCAMMER scams money off SUCKERS, that money belongs to a private business--any business, as long as it is a PRIVATE business. I have spoken. PS: fuckem all anyway, I don't give a damn. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 19:39:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D0de0m014034 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:39:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:39:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E3EE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:39:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:39:39 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D0dcgI020288 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:39:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413003745.RSUO18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:37:45 -0400 Message-ID: <425C69CE.9030208@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:37:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >DMH> Oh, you can wear any footwear in California. Or no footwear at all. > >Same for any other item of clothing. > > So in California there's something magic that makes you not get cold if you're wearing shorts and a halter top when it's 15 F and won't get hot if you're wearing a wool sweater when it's 98 F? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 19:44:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D0iX0m014451 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:44:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:44:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E3EF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:44:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:44:33 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D0iX2P020725 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:44:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413004432.RVJS18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:44:32 -0400 Message-ID: <425C6B66.2050301@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:44:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c53f77$074815f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <613473632.20050412101215@gailndan.com> <001b01c53f7c$08b8f1c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <1139845498.20050412105050@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1139845498.20050412105050@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > Except for complaints about barking (when dogs are normally on >own property, but being a nuisance) the most common complaint about >animals is about cats running wild, > There is sometimes a relationship. At least certain dogs of my acquaintance bark when wandering cats wander by. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 19:49:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D0nF0m015012 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:49:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:49:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E3F0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:49:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:49:15 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D0nEjD021101 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:49:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413004815.RWTM18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:48:15 -0400 Message-ID: <425C6C49.1070901@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:48:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412124554.01c0cd78@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050412124554.01c0cd78@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> At that time a group of animal >> rights organizations, > > > Aha---the lunatic fringe. There was a time when animal-rights groups > were > an effective force in raising public awareness about some of the > cruelties. Like a lot of groups, however, having accomplished quite a > bit, > they kept extending the crusade. Now, I believe that Dennis Miller's > characterization of them is apt---that they are the kind of people who > will > step on a derelict lying in the gutter in order to get close enough to > spit > on someone wearing a fur coat. Depends on which group. I do not consider organizations like ASPCA the lunatic fringe. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 19:54:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D0rw0m015634 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:54:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:54:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E3F18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:53:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:53:57 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D0rvA2021374 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:53:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413005136.RXXU18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:51:36 -0400 Message-ID: <425C6D12.3040108@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:51:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> <1026247149.20050412105509@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1026247149.20050412105509@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >How many can they possibly afford to feed, house, etc. > I'm pondering the transportation. Aren't the seats on most planes too close together to accommodate elephants? I'm trying to picture a bunch of elephants, earphones in place and dinner on their trays, squshed into the typical coach class seat on a flight from Swasiland. Maybe they fly them a few at a time in first class. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 20:03:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D13r0m017020 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:03:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:03:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E4105@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:03:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:03:52 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D13qSO022046 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:03:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413010351.SCOW18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:03:51 -0400 Message-ID: <425C6FEA.3000506@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:03:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> <20050412181326.GC12179@words-l.org> <116187478.20050412123138@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <116187478.20050412123138@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Absolutely. Was just trying to help Natalie put in context of her >ideas of "winter" and "summer". She'll never find a day in SF that >compares to summer in MS. > > Thank you. That is more helpful than your earlier posting on the topic. And it fits with my past SF experience, though my SF experience is quite limited. All of my California experience is quite limited. All of my experience west of Louisiana is quite limited. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 20:08:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D18H0m017314 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:08:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:08:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E4053@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:08:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 272206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:08:17 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D18HK0022373 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:08:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413010722.SDYK18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:07:22 -0400 Message-ID: <425C70C5.6010702@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:07:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF References: <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> <20050412181326.GC12179@words-l.org> <116187478.20050412123138@gailndan.com> <20050412183432.GB27634@words-l.org> <1023010886.20050412125032@gailndan.com> <20050412190159.GB41079@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050412190159.GB41079@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >If it's come to criticizing agendas, Dan, I yield to your >superior intelliegence. All I would like to add is that >since it's a free country, and will always be, Californians >are can wear whateverTF they want, whereverTF they are. > > Have I told you lately that I love you? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 20:09:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D1900m017353 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:09:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:09:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E3F57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:08:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 272262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:08:59 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D18xxo022454 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:08:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413010859.SEQB18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:08:59 -0400 Message-ID: <425C7125.8080308@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:08:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041212203e589317@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041212203e589317@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >The Wild Animal Park is not like most zoos; they really try to recreate the >natural habitat. > > I think most zoos try to do that these days, don't they? But I agree that the WAP is the luxury hotel -- because of the large amount of space. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 20:13:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D1DE0m017682 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:13:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:13:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E3F68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:13:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 272445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:13:13 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D1D8Ds022842 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:13:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.198]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413011247.SFVF18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:12:47 -0400 Message-ID: <425C720A.9030906@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:12:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... References: <200504122115.j3CLFQJM003786@math.umb.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504122115.j3CLFQJM003786@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan Boorstein wrote: >As I type this at 5:15 PM EDT, there is a snow shower here in Boston !!! > > I remember very well a snow in Starkville, MS, on about this date in '87. (I remember the year because of various things unrelated to the snow.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 20:18:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D1I00m018122 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:18:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:18:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E413F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:17:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 272201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:18:00 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3D17xm9022350 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:07:59 -0400 Received: (qmail 94761 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Apr 2005 01:07:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:07:59 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie/your hotel in SF Message-ID: <20050413010759.GA93461@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <1599197289.20050410222722@gailndan.com> <20050411174845.GB13213@words-l.org> <425B0ACE.1020108@maynor.net> <20050412024836.GA73975@words-l.org> <292942287.20050412071143@gailndan.com> <425C69CE.9030208@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <425C69CE.9030208@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 07:37:34PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > > >DMH> Oh, you can wear any footwear in California. Or no footwear at all. > > > >Same for any other item of clothing. > > > So in California there's something magic that makes you not get cold if > you're wearing shorts and a halter top when it's 15 F and won't get hot > if you're wearing a wool sweater when it's 98 F? Not my problem, lady. Nor my business. I don't give a damn. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 20:19:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D1JR0m018191 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:19:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:19:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F00CDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:19:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 272280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:19:27 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3D19R6T022509 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:09:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 95758 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Apr 2005 01:09:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:09:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050413010926.GB93461@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412120925.01c11c70@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70504120941da6d9c8@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050412124554.01c0cd78@pop.gwi.net> <425C6C49.1070901@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <425C6C49.1070901@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 07:48:09PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > >> At that time a group of animal > >>rights organizations, > > > > > >Aha---the lunatic fringe. There was a time when animal-rights groups > >were an effective force in raising public awareness about some of the > >cruelties. Like a lot of groups, however, having accomplished quite > >a bit, they kept extending the crusade. Now, I believe that Dennis > >Miller's characterization of them is apt---that they are the kind of > >people who will step on a derelict lying in the gutter in order to > >get close enough to spit on someone wearing a fur coat. > > Depends on which group. I do not consider organizations like ASPCA > the lunatic fringe. So, for them, Dennis Miller's characterization is not apt? Bullshit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 20:25:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D1Os0m018563 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:24:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:25:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E3F93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:24:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 272964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:24:54 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D1OsMj023696 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:24:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.198]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413012453.UKVI2549.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:24:53 -0400 Message-ID: <425C74E0.8070104@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:24:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Boring Wasn't Boring at All Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The ARF VP had picked speakers for today's ARF meeting that I thought sounded quite boring. It was about stuff going on at the ERC (which used to mean Engineering Research Center but now means something more general than that but I can't remember what). It's a research department of MSU that is housed in a Research Park nearby and that (I found out today) does also have degree programs attached to it. Among many other things I learned are that you can be pretty sure when on an airplane that the computer somethingorother in that plane was designed at the MSU ERC. Wish I could remember what exactly. And I found it impressive that when the shuttle that John Glenn was on for his old-age return to space developed problems, NASA immediately called MSU to do a simulation to see whether whatever it was was really going to be ok. They did the simulation in two days, well in time for the return, which apparently was what the NASA people were worrying about, and said it was gonna be ok. And it was. Anyway, I really did find the program interesting. And I managed to do an efficient job of running the business meeting. And Spencer managed to survive at home alone all day -- outside but with the back door to the garage open. And I found that the cooler full of molded biscuits is still in my house in Starkville! Couldn't believe it. But they still aren't climbing out of the cooler and making themselves visible, so I guess it doesn't matter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 20:39:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D1cv0m019964 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:39:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:39:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E40D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:38:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 273793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:38:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D1cpeX024900 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:38:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so19336nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr3954nzb; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:38:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LqfqUM+0+0wV1rkPBJ3feM5FNLBeWLp+S9ASD8KnFMzid44rb2bJf74UN0jy2wvS2PCLtDuzWyz/ksmyaNGHo6KmSTeSiyGm3ngk0wDbXzqlxOWU8XgqVHdHmlpLpHm4Y8HfsaqBS1y1udCxLyDItjuoF6uLQM3dheGkqTOspmo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041218383452f91e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:38:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <425C7125.8080308@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041212203e589317@mail.gmail.com> <425C7125.8080308@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3D1cv0m019964 On 4/12/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >The Wild Animal Park is not like most zoos; they really try to recreate > the > >natural habitat. > > > > > I think most zoos try to do that these days, don't they? Most zoos of my experience don't have the space for an actual habitat. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 21:42:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D2gj0m025999 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:42:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:42:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E47A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:42:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:42:45 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D2giL6030278 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:42:45 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 93373804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:42:44 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:42:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Watch it, Samant In-Reply-To: References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I know who you are and I know where you live. http://www.zabasearch.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 21:43:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D2hh0m026041 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:43:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:43:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E46E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:43:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:43:43 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D2hhV0030356 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:43:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.128.127]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413024343.TGWK2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:43:43 -0400 Message-ID: <425C8759.4040804@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:43:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041212203e589317@mail.gmail.com> <425C7125.8080308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041218383452f91e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041218383452f91e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>I think most zoos try to do that these days, don't they? >> >> > >Most zoos of my experience don't have the space for an actual habitat. > > You snipped off my following sentence -- the one mentioned that the WAP has the space to . Note that I said "try to." Most zoos I've been to in the past fifteen or so years are quite different from the zoos I remember from childhood in that the zoos of today seem to try to make more spaces for the animals. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 21:56:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D2tt0m027320 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:55:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:56:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E47B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:45:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:45:55 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D2jsqs030571 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:45:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.128.127]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413024554.THRQ2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:45:54 -0400 Message-ID: <425C87DC.2080907@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:45:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > I know who you are and I know where you live. > > http://www.zabasearch.com/ Haha. It does NOT know where Natalie Maynor lives. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 21:56:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D2uj0m027374 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:56:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:56:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F016F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:56:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:49:38 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D2nbHZ030914 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:49:37 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 93375429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:49:36 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194931.02662eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:49:44 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant In-Reply-To: <425C87DC.2080907@maynor.net> References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <425C87DC.2080907@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:45 PM 4/12/2005, you wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>I know who you are and I know where you live. >> >>http://www.zabasearch.com/ > >Haha. It does NOT know where Natalie Maynor lives. There are too many of me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 21:56:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D2us0m027386 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:56:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:56:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F016C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:56:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:51:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D2phuJ031048 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:51:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so27128nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.5 with SMTP id l5mr7510nzc; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:51:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bVALEVI9Q/87EWjyliIjaYy71sNYDdGzwTVoGyxqydcF/RWql40Y8xpZ8eivvbJW8f6sqVsnZIRnnyz6FpkxEc3VD6zFolkYf1Su5kZ2aVkunfI0dE6FEUQ39AXSb7nkYtsDNFsOsiddSLS3ZA9t+XD4i02eGCxPoaEDa+UNNJY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041219517253d288@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:51:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos In-Reply-To: <425C8759.4040804@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041208103f0d19ba@mail.gmail.com> <425C1255.2070909@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041212203e589317@mail.gmail.com> <425C7125.8080308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041218383452f91e@mail.gmail.com> <425C8759.4040804@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3D2us0m027386 On 4/12/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>I think most zoos try to do that these days, don't they? > >> > >> > > > >Most zoos of my experience don't have the space for an actual habitat. > > > > > You snipped off my following sentence -- the one mentioned that the WAP > has the space to . Yes, because we don't disagree about that. Note that I said "try to." Most zoos > I've been to in the past fifteen or so years are quite different from > the zoos I remember from childhood in that the zoos of today seem to try > to make more spaces for the animals. A natural space is not necessarily a habitat. See http://www.enchantedlearning.com/Hisfor.shtml -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 21:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D2xp0m027618 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:59:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:59:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E4B1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D2xlYI032034 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:59:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so27959nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr7870nzb; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:59:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NNlrW3Z3eyy4CV013PRWnXUAtwE/ytYUhArrsePSnwR0FITVB5WiXNSnH+wsVHm1nsq1a8gsI/aVzDJMKEJmuX2DF+1TXo2d6JRZRrrqaxlOihVxEBW07mMV62YC703eyWy+BN9E8N8T1J52kRbbZtuNnvXDSbb/xI17/vvzkss= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041219592f5796f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:59:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3D2xp0m027618 On 4/12/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > I know who you are and I know where you live. > > http://www.zabasearch.com/ > Kewl! -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 22:11:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D3BF0m028909 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:11:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:11:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E4CAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:11:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:11:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D3BE4h001492 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:11:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so29283nzp for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.13 with SMTP id m13mr8050nzb; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:11:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cyVRwVbRMK2P33OOJ2vqHN0Dn+XlGGmVrJ3tifCUNSuuRL7S3ZR2RSeZmvXOAGHgP4kB75B2W8dDUhIu0q7cE2YWVM2B9TlcIuFCyrMIGYhM9CdKrj06+eA1M31o1LGFuwqhKPLnj4VCPKq/uuK7XFj8au2I1VPevvQNNsLhDqE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050412201131e69f12@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:11:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant In-Reply-To: <425C87DC.2080907@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <425C87DC.2080907@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3D3BF0m028909 Interesting. Switchboard.com does, though. There's even a map to your house: http://www.switchboard.com/bin/cginbr.dll?ID=36867218&FUNC=MORE&TYPE=1007&MEM=1&L=maynor&S=MS&QV=02A6B3D07A134C42CB303203O01A67E9C5C9E5442C4303203O03A62F3D5C9E5442CA303203 On 4/12/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Betty F Clark wrote: > > > I know who you are and I know where you live. > > > > http://www.zabasearch.com/ > > Haha. It does NOT know where Natalie Maynor lives. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 12 22:42:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D3gA0m031974 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:42:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:42:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E4D91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:32:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:32:09 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3D3W9uE003034 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:32:09 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 941B22C1F6795 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:28:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001d01c53fd8$def3e9a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <425C87DC.2080907@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194931.02662eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Watch it, Samant Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:28:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty F Clark" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant > At 07:45 PM 4/12/2005, you wrote: >>Betty F Clark wrote: >> >>>I know who you are and I know where you live. >>> >>>http://www.zabasearch.com/ >> >>Haha. It does NOT know where Natalie Maynor lives. > > There are too many of me. They had my address and my phone number, but the wrong birth date and month. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 02:27:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3D7RT0m025157 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:27:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:27:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E51F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 3:27:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 03:27:28 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3D7RRtM022104 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 03:27:27 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041309255222921 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:25:52 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:27:26 +0200 Message-ID: <425CC9DD.6070907@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:27:25 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2005 07:27:26.0490 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E0647A0:01C53FFA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark skrev 13.04.2005 04:42: > I know who you are and I know where you live. > > http://www.zabasearch.com/ > Through that service you can also find dead people. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 06:56:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DBuT0m000712 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:56:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:56:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F0215D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 7:36:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 314052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:36:28 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DBaSHM032402 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:36:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.221]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413113627.TXZM2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:36:27 -0400 Message-ID: <425D043B.40708@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:36:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <425C87DC.2080907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050412201131e69f12@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050412201131e69f12@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Interesting. Switchboard.com does, though. There's >even a map to your house: > >http://www.switchboard.com/bin/cginbr.dll?ID=36867218&FUNC=MORE&TYPE=1007&MEM=1&L=maynor&S=MS&QV=02A6B3D07A134C42CB303203O01A67E9C5C9E5442C4303203O03A62F3D5C9E5442CA303203 > > > Yes, I know. That's why I think Zabasearch isn't as smart. Switchboard learns quickly when somebody moves. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 08:12:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DDC40m011742 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:12:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:12:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F022F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 8:51:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:52:00 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DCpx4d009068 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:51:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:51:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:51:34 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: bleccch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From an article on cnn.com (I know - consider the source) this bit of drivel about how a "third world" Pope would affect US Politics: "A new pope could, of course, choose to reverse Pope John Paul II's 1981 decision and once again allow church officials to run for office or even serve in Cabinet posts. .... Such a change could have truly a significant impact on the American political arena in a myriad of ways and in many of the most competitive swing states, from Pennsylvania to post-Schiavo Florida." --------------------------- "post-Schiavo Florida" ?????? bleccccch!!!!!! BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 08:23:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DDMf0m012981 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:22:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:23:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E5486@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 9:02:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:02:40 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DD2efL010242 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:02:40 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-64.gwi.net [216.195.165.64]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3DD2Z7E019186; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:02:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050413085410.01bf8e40@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:02:30 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: bleccch In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:51 AM 4/13/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: > From an article on cnn.com (I know - consider the source) this bit of >drivel about how a "third world" Pope would affect US Politics: > >"A new pope could, of course, choose to reverse Pope John Paul II's >1981 decision and once again allow church officials to run for office or >even serve in Cabinet posts. Reuters has an article this morning suggesting that Ratzinger is the early favorite among the conservatives. The moderates don't seem to have a good candidate right now, although Martini may be their interim candidate. There is, of course, the Roman saying: "He who goes into conclave as pope comes out a cardinal." cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 08:57:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DDv50m017235 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:57:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:57:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F025C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 9:57:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 323778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:57:04 -0400 Received: from mail122.messagelabs.com (mail122.messagelabs.com [216.82.241.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3DDv4XI020769 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:57:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 23876 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2005 13:57:03 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-4.tower-122.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2005 13:57:03 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1F32928 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:57:03 -0400 (EDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-122.messagelabs.com!1113400623!11477815!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.11; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [128.91.2.38] From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: . Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:56:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVAMKiYJ71z5+avRs2D/qB5tG6GXQ== Message-Id: <20050413135703.4E1F32928@pobox.upenn.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU . Alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 09:07:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DE6v0m018778 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:06:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:07:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F02655@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:06:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:06:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DE6u9L023017 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:06:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so49782nzp for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.13 with SMTP id m13mr36946nzb; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:06:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pU2moUUMO3TQDFzX32JUwKNhVZhK2Hpzx07FqnmuCYtBb6sLCs9okK4rWnMmgTkRygwIPXoFMYe9pFq6+eE+BWFvhxmlYz3U5Bf72DVClkaGu9uCAgI+N2ZTI/4zNy4iEC2mRVa8may0qTpKajaACpeG8284Bnx6NeYzSHRvk8A= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041307061df376b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:06:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: . In-Reply-To: <20050413135703.4E1F32928@pobox.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050413135703.4E1F32928@pobox.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3DE6v0m018778 On 4/13/05, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > . > > Alec > Simple, yet profound! -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 09:44:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DEiN0m024035 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:44:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:44:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E58B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:34:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:34:22 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DEYJqC027994 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:34:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D3D97FB6 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:34:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13145-06 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:34:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A174397A48 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:34:18 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425D2DD2.7090500@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:33:54 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: . References: <20050413135703.4E1F32928@pobox.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050413135703.4E1F32928@pobox.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.275 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >. > , ? Kr. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 11:26:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DGQa0m004612 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:26:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:26:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E5C5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:26:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:26:35 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DGQZI2015970 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:26:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16335311 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:26:56 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:25:06 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:26:35 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200504131626.j3DGQZI2015970@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:24:46 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <419840092.20050413102446@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re[2]: Zoos Resent-from: Dan Lester MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 164, in=54439, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 6:51 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I'm pondering the transportation. Aren't the seats on most planes too NM> close together to accommodate elephants? I'm trying to picture a bunch NM> of elephants, earphones in place and dinner on their trays, squshed into NM> the typical coach class seat on a flight from Swasiland. Maybe they fly NM> them a few at a time in first class. They probably do fly them. I have a friend who flies 747s around the world carrying all sorts of "specialized cargo". One time it may be a bunch of race horses from Kentucky to Dubai. Another time other live animals. Other times a load of computer chips from US to Penang, and then back with a load of completed things (whatever they built with the computer chips). Always cargo. Will have to ask if he's ever flown elephants, but I'd guess not personally or I would have heard about it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 11:26:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DGQZ0m004610 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:26:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:26:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E5D1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:26:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:26:34 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DGQXAJ015966 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:26:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16335302 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:26:54 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:24:55 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:26:33 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200504131626.j3DGQXAJ015966@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:24:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1159709131.20050413102435@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re[2]: Natalie/your hotel in SF Resent-from: Dan Lester MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 164, in=54436, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/12/2005, 6:37 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> So in California there's something magic that makes you not get cold if NM> you're wearing shorts and a halter top when it's 15 F and won't get hot NM> if you're wearing a wool sweater when it's 98 F? Of course. It is California, the Golden Land. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 11:31:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DGV50m005302 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:31:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:31:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E5C89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:31:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:31:05 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DGUrZV016579 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:30:53 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8ED1581A42735 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:30:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000d01c54046$11b59b50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20050413135703.4E1F32928@pobox.upenn.edu> <425D2DD2.7090500@akad.ee> Subject: Re: Re: . Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:30:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristin Sarv" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: Re: . > Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >>. >> > , > > ? > > Kr. It must mean he has come to the end. The end times, perhaps? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 11:47:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DGla0m007612 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:47:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:47:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F02E40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:47:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:47:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3DGbY9d017736 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:37:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 73470 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Apr 2005 16:37:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:37:34 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant Message-ID: <20050413163734.GA72436@words-l.org> References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 07:42:53PM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: > I know who you are and I know where you live. > > http://www.zabasearch.com/ *scary music* From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 11:50:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DGoC0m007867 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:50:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:50:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E5D43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:50:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:50:12 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DGoBfj020253 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:50:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so196626wri for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.7.72 with SMTP id 72mr556805wrg; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.37 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:49:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oaVHox4QfohDKx9nMg7ryDj4zNyq16O0ZYzJ9wC2S4U+nXTi7m324ibimMgJoRoEOJIXuvahos1gmbEFxj0BwkHsuv0vxL/xmHGPuUyQwRqEXf5jCl7feGqija0eGvshjWcUe3Vl7rbCKifZEgVGBaDFFfoxEcafFi6YDNGGjhU= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:49:59 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3DGoBfj020255 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://www.zabasearch.com/ Holy shit. I just found the phone numbers and addresses of some pretty reclusive people, including Hulk Hogan and Piers Anthony (of course, it helped that I knew what area of Florida they lived in and what names they'd be likely to use). I also found an address for Janet Reno, but I know it's not quite correct (because I already knew exactly where she lives -- though Google Maps showed me a satellite view, and all I've ever seen is a thickly wooded lot with a driveway that disappears quickly around a bend). Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 11:53:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DGrD0m008146 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:53:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:53:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E5C5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:53:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:53:08 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DGr7T8020727 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:53:07 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:53:07 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:48 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It lists me as living at my current adrress with old and new phone numbers (understandable) and also living with my ex-wife and with my daughter (where did THOSE entries come from?) BrP >>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 4/13/2005 12:49:59 PM >>> > http://www.zabasearch.com/ Holy shit. I just found the phone numbers and addresses of some pretty reclusive people, including Hulk Hogan and Piers Anthony (of course, it helped that I knew what area of Florida they lived in and what names they'd be likely to use). I also found an address for Janet Reno, but I know it's not quite correct (because I already knew exactly where she lives -- though Google Maps showed me a satellite view, and all I've ever seen is a thickly wooded lot with a driveway that disappears quickly around a bend). Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 12:12:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DHCQ0m010760 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:12:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:12:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E5CD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:02:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:02:26 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DH2Psp022213 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:02:26 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-64.gwi.net [216.195.165.64]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3DH2J0o028948; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:02:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050413123938.01c02660@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:40:22 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: . In-Reply-To: <425D2DD2.7090500@akad.ee> References: <20050413135703.4E1F32928@pobox.upenn.edu> <425D2DD2.7090500@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:33 AM 4/13/2005, Kristin Sarv wrote: >Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >>. >, > >? > >Kr. ! c From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 12:15:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DHF30m011215 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:15:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:15:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E5E5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:15:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:15:02 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DHF1cb023995 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:15:01 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C563DFC4A7804 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:15:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001001c5404c$43246d00$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <425CC9DD.6070907@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Watch it, Samant Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:14:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Espen S. Ore" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:27 AM Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant > Betty F Clark skrev 13.04.2005 04:42: > >> I know who you are and I know where you live. >> >> http://www.zabasearch.com/ >> > Through that service you can also find dead people. > > Espen I'm not finding much trustworthy info. They not only don't know my sister died 3 years ago, but they have for her address one she lived at some 35 years ago. Well, maybe her ghost moved back there. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 12:19:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DHJR0m011816 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:19:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:19:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E5D89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:19:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:19:26 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DHJQvJ024508 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:19:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF7198124 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:19:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09871-01 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:19:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE59A980F6 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:19:24 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425D5484.1040100@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:19:00 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: . References: <20050413135703.4E1F32928@pobox.upenn.edu> <425D2DD2.7090500@akad.ee> <6.2.0.14.0.20050413123938.01c02660@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050413123938.01c02660@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.281 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 10:33 AM 4/13/2005, Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >> >>> . >> >> , >> >> ? >> >> Kr. > > > ! > > c I don't want to break this beautiful row, but it reminds me of Anglo-Saxon Poses where there was something like: ...and when he had exhausted all the jokes with semicolon... Alec, I hope your . means something good, not bad. (Or was it just a test?) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 12:24:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DHOZ0m012497 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:24:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:24:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F02FE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:24:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:24:34 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DHOXMH025370 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:24:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA53198118 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:24:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10560-07 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:24:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3008A9810E for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:24:32 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425D55B7.1080003@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:24:07 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: . References: <20050413135703.4E1F32928@pobox.upenn.edu> <425D2DD2.7090500@akad.ee> <6.2.0.14.0.20050413123938.01c02660@pop.gwi.net> <425D5484.1040100@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <425D5484.1040100@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.287 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Anglo-Saxon Poses No. Attitudes. Anglo-Saxon Attitudes, by Angus Wilson. K. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 12:44:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DHi30m015088 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:44:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:44:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E603F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:44:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:44:03 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DHi1wD029092 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:44:01 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E5E7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:44:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200504131744.j3DHi1wD029092@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:44:01 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Zoos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:23:52 -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 05:00 PM 4/12/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:29:33 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog >L.ORG> wrote: >> >> >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:32:51PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> >> Canines probably suffer more in captivity than do felines. >> > >> >Is there a scientific, reproducible, cross-species measure of >> >suffering, based on a falsifiable, still-standing hypothesis? >> >Because this statement sounds morally leprous to me. >> >>Ask Martha Stewart. > >Don't waste your time, Clo. thanks for the advice. There are times, however, when wasting time is the only defiance I have left to me. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 13:07:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DI6o0m018563 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:06:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:07:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E605F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:48:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 349337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:48:02 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DHm0ja029873 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:48:00 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0315C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:47:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200504131748.j3DHm0ja029873@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:47:59 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Zoos To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:56:23 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 05:00:33PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:29:33 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog >> wrote: >> >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:32:51PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> >> >> Canines probably suffer more in captivity than do felines. >> > >> >Is there a scientific, reproducible, cross-species measure of >> >suffering, based on a falsifiable, still-standing hypothesis? >> >Because this statement sounds morally leprous to me. >> >> Ask Martha Stewart. > >Why, what's the analogy? Actually, BFD. Is there a web page >that tells you about all the idiotic ways in which anything >you name is metaphorically a "prison"? Just post the tinyurl. >It would solve all debates--all you would have to do is ask >Martha Stewart, a metaphorical "feline" in a metaphorical >"zoo". Oh, should I have thought of an analogy? I just thought it would be fun to say what other people were saying. Wasn't that the name of the game? If you want a measurable for misery, I dare you to quantify Barrington Moore. I'd love to see it. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 13:07:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DI6o0m018564 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:06:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:07:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E5FAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:49:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 349522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:49:43 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DHndpT030205 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:49:39 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F03172@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:49:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200504131749.j3DHndpT030205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:49:39 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:59:15 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 05:25:28PM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> On Apr 12, 2005 4:56 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:26 -0400, Clyde Voigtlander >> > wrote: >> > >> > >A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not >> > quite >> > >spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a little later, >> > >then back to snow showers tonight. >> > > cwv >> > >> > We're wandering around under blue skies, with stunned looks on our faces. >> > MEanwhile, half the Geography dept has had to cancel classes b/c profs >> > and TAs were snowed in at a conference in Denver. >> >> Irony. Lovely. > >Hm! So it's blue skies in Denver and snow in Syracuse! >What an odd place to use "irony"! Wha - Huh? Blue skies in Syracuse - itself rare enough to be nearly unparseable... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 13:07:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DI6o0m018562 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:06:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:07:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E5E8E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:46:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:46:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3DHamKN027658 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:36:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 7635 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Apr 2005 17:36:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:36:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: . Message-ID: <20050413173648.GA5810@words-l.org> References: <20050413135703.4E1F32928@pobox.upenn.edu> <425D2DD2.7090500@akad.ee> <6.2.0.14.0.20050413123938.01c02660@pop.gwi.net> <425D5484.1040100@akad.ee> <425D55B7.1080003@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <425D55B7.1080003@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:24:07PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >Anglo-Saxon Poses > > No. Attitudes. Anglo-Saxon Attitudes, by Angus Wilson. Makes me want to read it ... Goodbye, Freakonomics ;_( From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 15:11:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DKB60m032592 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:11:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:11:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E63BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:11:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:11:06 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DK12hw025292 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:01:03 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2005041320011411200ma89me>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:01:14 +0000 Message-Id: <200504132001.j3DK12hw025292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: . Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:01:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <425D5484.1040100@akad.ee> Thread-Index: AcVATPh0PT/HpZiNSXeAeKDYnfu5FQAFoFwg Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU .. Alec >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kristin Sarv >Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:19 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: . > >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >> At 10:33 AM 4/13/2005, Kristin Sarv wrote: >> >>> Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>> >>>> . >>> >>> , >>> >>> ? >>> >>> Kr. >> >> >> ! >> >> c > >I don't want to break this beautiful row, but it reminds me of >Anglo-Saxon Poses where there was something like: ...and when he had >exhausted all the jokes with semicolon... > >Alec, I hope your . means something good, not bad. (Or was it >just a test?) > >Kristin > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 15:19:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DKIv0m000584 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:18:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:19:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F037B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:18:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 364180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:18:56 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DKIDmm029557 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:18:13 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:18:13 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:17:58 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU .. . .. - - - BrP >>> plotkina@ATT.NET 4/13/2005 4:01:02 PM >>> .. Alec >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kristin Sarv >Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:19 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: . > >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >> At 10:33 AM 4/13/2005, Kristin Sarv wrote: >> >>> Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>> >>>> . >>> >>> , >>> >>> ? >>> >>> Kr. >> >> >> ! >> >> c > >I don't want to break this beautiful row, but it reminds me of >Anglo-Saxon Poses where there was something like: ...and when he had >exhausted all the jokes with semicolon... > >Alec, I hope your . means something good, not bad. (Or was it >just a test?) > >Kristin > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 15:22:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DKLn0m000940 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:21:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:22:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F037D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:21:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 364429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:21:49 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DKLjOb030381 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:21:45 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F037E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:21:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200504132021.j3DKLjOb030381@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:21:45 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:48 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >It lists me as living at my current adrress with old and new phone >numbers (understandable) and also living with my ex-wife and with my >daughter (where did THOSE entries come from?) > >BrP > > >>>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 4/13/2005 12:49:59 PM >>> >> http://www.zabasearch.com/ > >Holy shit. I just found the phone numbers and addresses of some >pretty reclusive people, including Hulk Hogan and Piers Anthony (of >course, it helped that I knew what area of Florida they lived in and >what names they'd be likely to use). > >I also found an address for Janet Reno, but I know it's not quite >correct (because I already knew exactly where she lives -- though >Google Maps showed me a satellite view, and all I've ever seen is a >thickly wooded lot with a driveway that disappears quickly around a >bend). > >Ben Someone else lives at my address but I don't. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 15:25:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DKPe0m001233 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:25:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:25:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E64D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 364711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:37 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DKPVCL031259 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:32 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:12 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU oops that should be . .. . .. - - - BrP >>> Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU 4/13/2005 4:17:58 PM >>> .. . .. - - - BrP >>> plotkina@ATT.NET 4/13/2005 4:01:02 PM >>> .. Alec >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kristin Sarv >Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:19 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: . > >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >> At 10:33 AM 4/13/2005, Kristin Sarv wrote: >> >>> Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>> >>>> . >>> >>> , >>> >>> ? >>> >>> Kr. >> >> >> ! >> >> c > >I don't want to break this beautiful row, but it reminds me of >Anglo-Saxon Poses where there was something like: ...and when he had >exhausted all the jokes with semicolon... > >Alec, I hope your . means something good, not bad. (Or was it >just a test?) > >Kristin > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 15:25:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DKPf0m001235 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:25:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:25:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F03802@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 364742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:41 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DKPeqm031298 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:40 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F037F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200504132025.j3DKPeqm031298@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:40 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: . To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>>> plotkina@ATT.NET 4/13/2005 4:01:02 PM >>> >.. > >Alec On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:17:58 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > .. . .. - - - > >BrP > > ._ _. _..? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 15:25:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DKPe0n001233 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:25:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:25:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E6313@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 364734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DKPcI5031275 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:25:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so124999nzp for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr64682nzb; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:25:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YNp/JyrZUHUW/NtDcoO+I5H0w8OQVpKY3ud4Jl/09XrsBCjSZJuHtL9PepfvBHVi4Jhu7PfYFlDiA6rRw65NHkhvR+VVuoTcs5vt1NTV1UHCvvpPHUCzYIzkoPux7ujiEvBvzF86gSPjy7YDS1uLr6lp/X1tdv1qnM7fCXTBTTE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041313255382a122@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:25:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: . In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3DKPe0n001233 i e i o? On 4/13/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > .. . .. - - - > > BrP > > >>> plotkina@ATT.NET 4/13/2005 4:01:02 PM >>> > .. > > Alec > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: English Language Discussion Group > >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kristin Sarv > >Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:19 PM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Re: . > > > >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > > >> At 10:33 AM 4/13/2005, Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> > >>> Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >>> > >>>> . > >>> > >>> , > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> Kr. > >> > >> > >> ! > >> > >> c > > > >I don't want to break this beautiful row, but it reminds me of > >Anglo-Saxon Poses where there was something like: ...and when he had > >exhausted all the jokes with semicolon... > > > >Alec, I hope your . means something good, not bad. (Or was it > >just a test?) > > > >Kristin > > > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 15:38:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DKco0m002703 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:38:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:38:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E645F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:38:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 365760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:38:50 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DKcnYJ001202 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:38:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.78]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413203849.LDOM2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: <425D8357.3070407@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:38:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: . References: <200504132025.j3DKPeqm031298@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504132025.j3DKPeqm031298@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >._ _. _..? > > //._.\\ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 15:45:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DKjW0m003499 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:45:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:45:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E6495@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:45:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:45:31 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DKjQQ8002112 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:45:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.78]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050413204526.LIHM2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:45:26 -0400 Message-ID: <425D84E5.5050306@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant References: <200504132021.j3DKLjOb030381@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504132021.j3DKLjOb030381@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It lists unlisted phone numbers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 16:10:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DLAb0m005899 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:10:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:10:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E66BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:10:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 371915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:10:37 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DLAaSb007995 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:10:36 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B6398916EB03 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:10:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001e01c5406c$9c60c380$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200504132001.j3DK12hw025292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: . Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:06:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: . > .. You don't have to go on and on about it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 16:44:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DLhs0m010262 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:43:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:44:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E6795@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:43:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:43:54 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3DLXrAX011155 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:33:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 40384 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Apr 2005 21:33:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:33:53 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Zoos Message-ID: <20050413213353.GA39596@words-l.org> References: <200504131748.j3DHm0ja029873@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504131748.j3DHm0ja029873@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:47:59PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> >> Canines probably suffer more in captivity than do felines. > >> > > >> >Is there a scientific, reproducible, cross-species measure of > >> >suffering, based on a falsifiable, still-standing hypothesis? > >> >Because this statement sounds morally leprous to me. > >> > >> Ask Martha Stewart. > > > >Why, what's the analogy? Actually, BFD. Is there a web page > >that tells you about all the idiotic ways in which anything > >you name is metaphorically a "prison"? Just post the tinyurl. > >It would solve all debates--all you would have to do is ask > >Martha Stewart, a metaphorical "feline" in a metaphorical > >"zoo". > > Oh, should I have thought of an analogy? > I just thought it would be fun to say what other people were saying. > Wasn't that the name of the game? > > If you want a measurable for misery, I dare you to quantify Barrington > Moore. I'd love to see it. Morally, or otherwise? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 16:44:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DLid0m010357 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:44:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:44:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E669B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:44:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:44:39 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3DLYcl1011270 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:34:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 41252 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Apr 2005 21:34:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:34:38 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... Message-ID: <20050413213437.GB39596@words-l.org> References: <200504131749.j3DHndpT030205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504131749.j3DHndpT030205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:49:39PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:59:15 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 05:25:28PM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > >> On Apr 12, 2005 4:56 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:26 -0400, Clyde Voigtlander > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > >A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not > >> > >quite spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a > >> > >little later, then back to snow showers tonight. > >> > > cwv > >> > > >> > We're wandering around under blue skies, with stunned looks on our > >> > faces. MEanwhile, half the Geography dept has had to cancel classes > >> > b/c profs and TAs were snowed in at a conference in Denver. > >> > >> Irony. Lovely. > > > >Hm! So it's blue skies in Denver and snow in Syracuse! > >What an odd place to use "irony"! > > Wha - Huh? Blue skies in Syracuse - itself rare enough to be > nearly unparseable... Well then WTF is your problem? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 16:55:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DLtR0m011500 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:55:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:55:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E66A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:46:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:45:58 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3DLZuL1011609 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:35:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 42484 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Apr 2005 21:35:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:35:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: . Message-ID: <20050413213555.GD39596@words-l.org> References: <200504132025.j3DKPeqm031298@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <425D8357.3070407@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <425D8357.3070407@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 03:38:47PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >._ _. _..? > > > > > //._.\\ ^_^; From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 16:55:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DLtR0m011501 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:55:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:55:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E66A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:46:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:46:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3DLaJaF011640 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:36:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 42582 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Apr 2005 21:36:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:36:19 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant Message-ID: <20050413213619.GE39596@words-l.org> References: <200504132021.j3DKLjOb030381@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <425D84E5.5050306@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <425D84E5.5050306@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 03:45:25PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > It lists unlisted phone numbers. Irony. Lovely. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 16:55:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DLtR0m011498 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:55:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:55:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E679F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:45:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:45:27 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3DLZQQc011544 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:35:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 42019 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Apr 2005 21:35:26 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:35:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: . Message-ID: <20050413213526.GC39596@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good, I was about to kick yer ass On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 04:25:12PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > oops that should be > . .. . .. - - - > > BrP > > > > >>> Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU 4/13/2005 4:17:58 PM >>> > .. . .. - - - > > BrP > > > > >>> plotkina@ATT.NET 4/13/2005 4:01:02 PM >>> > .. > > Alec > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: English Language Discussion Group > >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kristin Sarv > >Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:19 PM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Re: . > > > >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > > >> At 10:33 AM 4/13/2005, Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> > >>> Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >>> > >>>> . > >>> > >>> , > >>> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> Kr. > >> > >> > >> ! > >> > >> c > > > >I don't want to break this beautiful row, but it reminds me of > >Anglo-Saxon Poses where there was something like: ...and when he had > >exhausted all the jokes with semicolon... > > > >Alec, I hope your . means something good, not bad. (Or was it > >just a test?) > > > >Kristin > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 18:19:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DNIs0m020389 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:18:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:19:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F041B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:18:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 385376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:18:52 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DNIqdb028902 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:18:52 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16386782 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:19:13 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:19:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:18:51 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <149102715.20050413171851@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: . In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 164, in=54652, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I figured you dropped the first dot.... 4/13/2005, 2:25 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> oops that should be PB> . .. . .. - - - PB> BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 18:28:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3DNSV0m021144 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:28:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:28:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E6B30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:28:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 386319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:28:30 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3DNSUts029855 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:28:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16398865 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:50:33 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:28:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:28:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <349441953.20050413172829@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Watch it, Samant In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 162, in=57332, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For me it has correct address, but lists a phone number I've not had for almost four years. My current phones are cell only, though. Does have the right birth month. No indication of spouse. 4/13/2005, 10:52 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> It lists me as living at my current adrress with old and new phone PB> numbers (understandable) and also living with my ex-wife and with my PB> daughter (where did THOSE entries come from?) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 13 19:14:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3E0ET0m025502 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:14:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:14:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E6E02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:14:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 389508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:14:28 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3E0ERvY002217 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:14:27 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:14:27 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:14:09 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: 416 samples Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU of: "Please call Stella. Ask her to bring these things with her from the store: Six spoons of fresh snow peas, five thick slabs of blue cheese, and maybe a snack for her brother Bob. We also need a small plastic snake and a big toy frog for the kids. She can scoop these things into three red bags, and we will go meet her Wednesday at the train station." http://classweb.gmu.edu/accent/ BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 00:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3E5CA0m028253 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:12:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:12:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F04B97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 0:42:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 406781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:40:31 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3E4LIDe022439 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:21:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B73BE8C4 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <425C87DC.2080907@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Jesus died so that we would know when to plant tomatoes X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:21:11 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:45 PM -0700 4/12/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >> I know who you are and I know where you live. >> >> http://www.zabasearch.com/ > >Haha. It does NOT know where Natalie Maynor lives. It does know where I used to live, two moves ago. But you'd have to know both my state AND my middle initial to find me. And even then you'd only have a 2-in-45 chance. (For some reason it has me once with an address but no phone number, and again with the corresponding phone number but no address.) Ken Miller Winston Smith School of Identity Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 00:35:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3E5ZV0m030890 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:35:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:35:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E7549@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 1:25:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 408993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:25:30 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3E5PTu3026671 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:25:29 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42121BE8BF for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Jesus died so that we would know when to plant tomatoes X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:25:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 9:49 AM -0700 4/13/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> http://www.zabasearch.com/ >I also found an address for Janet Reno, but I know it's not quite >correct (because I already knew exactly where she lives -- though >Google Maps showed me a satellite view, and all I've ever seen is a >thickly wooded lot with a driveway that disappears quickly around a >bend). Google Maps, and others of its kind, base some of their address information on postal routes, not necessarily recent. One of my coworkers lives in a relatively new (~10 years) subdevelopment where Google Maps maps all the addresses to the spot where the model homes were -- in some cases, over a mile away from the actual address. Then there's a friend of mine whose Google Maps address is one block over from his real address, not even on the same street, and I can't figure out why, as it doesn't seem to be a subdevelopment issue. The really frightening thing is not that this stuff is available online, but that it is so often so inaccurate -- which gives one pause, considering that someday soon major legal decisions will be made based on often-inaccurate data provided from the web. Whoops! I think I had a typo in that last paragraph. I typed "someday soon" when I meant "probably already". Ken Miller Bellman School of Cartography From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 02:33:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3E7XQ0m012610 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:33:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:33:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F04E90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 3:33:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 413465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 03:33:25 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3E7NPc5002348 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 03:23:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 9254 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Apr 2005 07:23:24 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:23:24 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 416 samples Message-ID: <20050414072324.GA6640@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:14:09PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > of: > > "Please call Stella. Ask her to bring these things with her from the > store: Six spoons of fresh snow peas, five thick slabs of blue cheese, > and maybe a snack for her brother Bob. We also need a small plastic > snake and a big toy frog for the kids. She can scoop these things into > three red bags, and we will go meet her Wednesday at the train station." > > http://classweb.gmu.edu/accent/ We discussed this in ;91 my brother. Especially why the Uighur lady sounds so similar to the Quechua lady, because it simply makes no sense. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 02:34:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3E7Yb0m012754 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:34:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:34:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E76B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 3:34:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 413533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 03:34:36 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3E7OY6t002525 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 03:24:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 10255 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Apr 2005 07:24:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:24:34 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Watch it, Samant Message-ID: <20050414072434.GB6640@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:25:15PM -0700, Bookrat wrote: > The really frightening thing is not that this stuff is available online, > but that it is so often so inaccurate -- which gives one pause, considering > that someday soon major legal decisions will be made based on > often-inaccurate data provided from the web. No, they won't. From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 06:55:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EBtC0m017754 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:55:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:55:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005E790C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 7:45:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 420180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:45:11 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EBjBnS015371 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:45:11 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16437988 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:07:23 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.25.162]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:45:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:45:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1782998201.20050414054508@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Watch it, Samant In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050412194134.0275c4e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=57454, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/13/2005, 11:25 PM, Bookrat wrote: B> One of my B> coworkers lives in a B> relatively new (~10 years) subdevelopment where B> Google Maps maps all the B> addresses to the spot where the model homes were -- B> in some cases, over a B> mile away from the actual address. Then there's a Interesting. We built in late 95, but even in 98 we were shown right on various services of this type. B> The really frightening thing is not that this stuff B> is available online, B> but that it is so often so inaccurate -- which gives Well, have you checked the accuracy of the information in your credit report? Ours has things that have been wrong for over a decade, despite efforts to correct them. Fortunately they're not significant for much of anything. For example, a jewelry store credit account, with a limit of 400 bucks, no balance for over twenty years, two wives and four moves ago. But it still shows as open credit. As noted, not a problem...but could be if it were something else. B> one pause, considering B> that someday soon major legal decisions will be made B> based on B> often-inaccurate data provided from the web. As noted, it is now. Other thought. With this level of detail to everyone, think of what the military birds can and do know about you. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:00:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EC0J0m018234 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:00:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:00:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F0517A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:00:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 420619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:00:18 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EC0IDp017117 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:00:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.120]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414120018.UCYL2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:00:18 -0400 Message-ID: <425E5B4E.9000609@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:00:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Count every "F" in the following text: > > FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE > SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTI > FIC STUDY COMBINED WITH > THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS... How many? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:04:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EC4d0m018998 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:04:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:04:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E79FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:04:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 420801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:04:39 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EC4dcb017588 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:04:39 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:04:38 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:04:11 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: 416 samples Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Musta been while I was in Siberia. BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/14/2005 3:23:24 AM >>> We discussed this in ;91 my brother. Especially why the Uighur lady sounds so similar to the Quechua lady, because it simply makes no sense. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:06:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EC6a0m019135 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:06:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:06:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F05198@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:06:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 420872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:06:36 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EC6Zm3017785 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:06:35 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 92978352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:06:35 -0400 Message-ID: <425E5CC5.8080502@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:06:29 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Test References: <425E5B4E.9000609@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <425E5B4E.9000609@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Four. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:07:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EC7X0m019201 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:07:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:07:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F0519A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:07:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 420887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:07:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EC7XCb017844 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:07:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:07:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:07:07 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ok maybe I'm stupid, but I'll risk the obvious answer - 6 BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/14/2005 8:00:14 AM >>> > Count every "F" in the following text: > > FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE > SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTI > FIC STUDY COMBINED WITH > THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS... How many? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:08:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EC8F0m019296 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:08:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:08:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E7A02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:08:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 420906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:08:14 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EC8E59017900 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:08:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16438832 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:30:27 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.25.162]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:08:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:08:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <469674221.20050414060812@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Test In-Reply-To: <425E5B4E.9000609@maynor.net> References: <425E5B4E.9000609@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.500000 High proportion of text in CAPS=1.5 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 163, in=57457, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Five. Finished Files Of Of Fic 4/14/2005, 6:00 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Count every "F" in the following text: >> >> FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE >> SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTI >> FIC STUDY COMBINED WITH >> THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS... NM> How many? NM> -- NM> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:11:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ECB10m019602 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:11:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:11:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E7848@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:11:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 421101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:11:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ECB08e018376 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:11:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so479280wra for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.45.2 with SMTP id s2mr436914wrs; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:10:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ojpnOstFT8SKReAJIyJ7OQPXfe6Ra1E9Pw6BDyh2taSoFrvfcha6ko2AxT9CVhK5kQXSVMCBi5CXirVFmkl1+dZ+OPazuW6M22IGoJbUK+chIXPwkbqbLLih5iv/7KiZ9qXj2kbtsaramVFRia7GhZYMcWCZUnGEnCPpSOAU0V4= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:10:59 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Test In-Reply-To: <425E5B4E.9000609@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425E5B4E.9000609@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ECB10m019602 five > Count every "F" in the following text: > > > > FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE > > SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTI > > FIC STUDY COMBINED WITH > > THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS... > > How many? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:11:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ECBj0m019692 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:11:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:11:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E784A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:11:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 421118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:11:45 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ECBhGO018454 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:11:45 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 89266978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:11:43 -0400 Message-ID: <425E5DFE.1090901@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:11:42 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Test References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You are ahead so far. I'm going for another cup of coffee. Rita L. Paul Barfoot wrote: >ok maybe I'm stupid, but I'll risk the obvious answer - 6 > >BrP > > > >>>>natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/14/2005 8:00:14 AM >>> >>>> >>>> >>Count every "F" in the following text: >> >> FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE >> SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTI >> FIC STUDY COMBINED WITH >> THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS... >> >> > > >How many? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:24:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ECOQ0m021451 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:24:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:24:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E7852@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:14:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 421279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:14:25 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ECEPNd018918 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:14:25 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:14:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:13:57 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU and she replies with a 5-F sentence! BrP >>> leonard@BC.EDU 4/14/2005 8:11:42 AM >>> You are ahead so far. I'm going for another cup of coffee. Rita L. Paul Barfoot wrote: >ok maybe I'm stupid, but I'll risk the obvious answer - 6 > >BrP > > > >>>>natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/14/2005 8:00:14 AM >>> >>>> >>>> >>Count every "F" in the following text: >> >> FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE >> SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTI >> FIC STUDY COMBINED WITH >> THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS... >> >> > > >How many? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:24:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ECOQ0m021454 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:24:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:24:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E7859@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:15:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 421343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:15:32 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ECFWYl019058 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:15:32 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005E7A1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:15:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200504141215.j3ECFWYl019058@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:15:32 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:34:38 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:49:39PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:59:15 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog > L.ORG> wrote: >> >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 05:25:28PM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> >> On Apr 12, 2005 4:56 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:26 -0400, Clyde Voigtlander >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >A little while back, I wrote about it being no longer winter but not >> >> > >quite spring. Well, today it is snowing. It may change to rain a >> >> > >little later, then back to snow showers tonight. >> >> > > cwv >> >> > >> >> > We're wandering around under blue skies, with stunned looks on our >> >> > faces. MEanwhile, half the Geography dept has had to cancel classes >> >> > b/c profs and TAs were snowed in at a conference in Denver. >> >> >> >> Irony. Lovely. >> > >> >Hm! So it's blue skies in Denver and snow in Syracuse! >> >What an odd place to use "irony"! >> >> Wha - Huh? Blue skies in Syracuse - itself rare enough to be >> nearly unparseable... > >Well then WTF is your problem? Let's see. I have a tendency to interrupt in conversations, even with people for whom that's not ok. I have a problem relating to my new bosses... How long a list do you want? I could go on and on. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:24:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ECOQ0m021453 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:24:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:24:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E787D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:18:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 420917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:18:21 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EC8LaT017914 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:08:21 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j3EC8LlP018032 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:08:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200504141208.j3EC8LlP018032@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Test Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Count every "F" in the following text: > > > > FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE > > SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTI > > FIC STUDY COMBINED WITH > > THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS... > > > How many? Looks like 6 F's to me. Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:33:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ECXN0m022250 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:33:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:33:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E78C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:33:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 422720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:33:23 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ECXNeD021904 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:33:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.120]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414123323.BUJQ2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:33:23 -0400 Message-ID: <425E6310.80606@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:33:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Test References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is the list secretary keeping track of these answers -- of how many geniuses are among us? Here's the rest of the forwarding -- the part I did not include in the earlier posting: > ..................... 3? > > WRONG, THERE ARE 6 -- no joke. > READ IT AGAIN ! > > Really, go Back and Try to find the 6 F's before you scroll > down. > > The reasoning behind is further down. > > The brain cannot process "OF". > > Incredible or what? Go back and look again!! > > Anyone who counts all 6 "F's" on the first go is a genius. > Three is normal, four is quite rare. *********** The statement "the brain cannot process 'of'" is a bit ridiculous, of course, but I do think that the brain does tend to skip over structure words (as opposed to content words). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:37:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ECbQ0m022852 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:37:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:37:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005E78EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:37:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 423176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:37:26 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ECbPWK023492 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:37:26 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:37:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:37:14 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I didn't read it. I only counted the "F"s Is that cheating? BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/14/2005 8:33:20 AM >>> Is the list secretary keeping track of these answers -- of how many geniuses are among us? Here's the rest of the forwarding -- the part I did not include in the earlier posting: > ..................... 3? > > WRONG, THERE ARE 6 -- no joke. > READ IT AGAIN ! > > Really, go Back and Try to find the 6 F's before you scroll > down. > > The reasoning behind is further down. > > The brain cannot process "OF". > > Incredible or what? Go back and look again!! > > Anyone who counts all 6 "F's" on the first go is a genius. > Three is normal, four is quite rare. *********** The statement "the brain cannot process 'of'" is a bit ridiculous, of course, but I do think that the brain does tend to skip over structure words (as opposed to content words). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 07:48:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EClu0m023996 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:47:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:48:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0532C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 8:47:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 423762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:47:55 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ECltuk003339 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:47:55 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3ECls7O007520 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:47:55 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3ECkF5H017670 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:46:17 -0400 Message-ID: <00db01c540ef$f31554b0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <425E6310.80606@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Test Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:46:15 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Is the list secretary keeping track of these answers -- of how many > geniuses are among us? http://www.mensa.org/index0.php?page=12 Go4it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 09:45:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EEjG0m007371 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:45:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:45:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F05E26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:45:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 446381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:45:16 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EEjFAv000489 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:45:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AEB97619 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:45:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01130-06 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:45:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2956C9763C for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:45:13 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425E81F6.7050504@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:45:10 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: . References: <200504132025.j3DKPeqm031298@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <425D8357.3070407@maynor.net> <20050413213555.GD39596@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050413213555.GD39596@words-l.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.255 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_80_90, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 03:38:47PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> >> >>>._ _. _..? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>//._.\\ >> >> > >^_^; > ( ) (k) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 09:52:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EEqG0m008045 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:52:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:52:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F05F9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:52:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 448412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:52:06 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EEq6eX002429 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:52:06 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5EE97649 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:52:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02076-10 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:52:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D105897601 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:52:04 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:52:02 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: imftatl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.296 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU more fun or less fun to ask the list, the truth is I couldn't find an answer. What is progressive grammar? I found 'progressive grammar tuition' and more such collocations which suggested that probably the grammar wasn't called progressive but it was just taught to pupils step by step whence the 'progress'. Yet expressions like 'progressive grammar of a such-and-such language' are also used. Maybe descriptive grammar of a language through its progress/development in the history? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 10:16:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EFGV0m010836 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:16:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:16:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F06756@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:16:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 464572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:02:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EF2QXx005767 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:02:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so1321734nzp for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.4 with SMTP id h4mr119317nzb; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:02:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NBUbSM5KrP3GVxLtr87pEtDAJ52Z8YiPRA2pTq4Y/9vg/QGnpaAfPrfCtxSgsqeY4pUwxFkQmE0imXxSucUi0l0YbyTsYO3rGav1/jRAbMnCWD1eEkzuwjLDtjwVsqtmE02BKTzxBzx8iW+gLksStnTnjR/+LC03COT5wo516x0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:02:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl In-Reply-To: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3EFGV0m010836 On 4/14/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > more fun or less fun to ask the list, the truth is I couldn't find an > answer. > > What is progressive grammar? I don't know. I found 'progressive grammar tuition' and more such collocations which > suggested that probably the grammar wasn't called progressive but it was > just taught to pupils step by step whence the 'progress'. Yet > expressions like 'progressive grammar of a such-and-such language' are > also used. I would think the latter means things like "present progressive". The grammar of progressive tenses. (Are they tenses?) Maybe descriptive grammar of a language through its > progress/development in the history? Usually that's considered historical linguistics--that's what I studied. I did find one hit on progressive with that meaning, but it was from 1850. I think you've hit on at least two meanings of this term. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:07:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EH6v0m024866 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:07:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:07:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F08FE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:06:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:23:11 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EGNAr7026516 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:23:10 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BBA976D0 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:23:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17676-06 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:23:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710F7976C4 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:23:09 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425E98EB.5020103@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:23:07 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.065 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 4/14/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > >What is progressive grammar? > > > > >I don't know. > Thanks for trying, anyway. In Ansax-list a member was inquiring about a particular book where there were progressive grammar plus reading in it, as he wrote, and asked whether there were better ones for teaching Old English. Anybody answering his questions didn't seem to have any problem understanding what he had meant. Well, somebody said, a particular OE book was, too, 'progressively organized'. That is not a list I'd like to ask questions on seemingly elementary knowledge of linguistics; I just read their messages and maybe won't send any myself ever. They mostly discuss specific problems of Anglo-Saxon history, language, culture, and these rare times when (usually ambitious) laymen have sent their questions have brought about really tedious and boring threads -- and this maybe even didn't happen in that list but in one specifically dealing with the Old English language. Maybe I'll try to find out about some of the books they recommended and see what's so progressive about them :) Also, when googling for 'progressive grammar' I found titles like "A Progressive Grammar of the Telugu Language" -- so, somewhere some people use it as a term. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHCI0m025525 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:12:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:12:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EABF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:12:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:35:48 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EGZjUj029686 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:35:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B22976BC for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:35:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20189-10 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:35:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E730397695 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:35:43 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425E9BDD.6010603@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:35:41 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wrote: >> Also, when googling for 'progressive grammar' >> I found titles like "A Progressive Grammar of the Telugu >> Language" -- so, somewhere some people use it as a term whereas I hadn't grasped, Karen, your remark on it: >I would think the latter means things like "present progressive". The >grammar of progressive tenses. (Are they tenses?) > Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:15:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHFj0m025963 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:15:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:15:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EABDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:15:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:49:01 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3EGd0s5030319 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:39:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 8764 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Apr 2005 16:39:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:39:00 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... Message-ID: <20050414163900.GA6264@words-l.org> References: <200504141215.j3ECFWYl019058@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504141215.j3ECFWYl019058@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 08:15:32AM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Let's see. I have a tendency to interrupt in conversations, > even with people for whom that's not ok. Who are these people? Are they the ones who shriek "I am not finished yet"? What if the listener is finished with their ass? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:19:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHJi0m026337 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:19:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:19:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EAE1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:19:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:00:03 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3EGo3VF032654 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:50:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 15580 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Apr 2005 16:50:02 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:50:02 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Test Message-ID: <20050414165002.GB6264@words-l.org> References: <425E6310.80606@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <425E6310.80606@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 07:33:20AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > The statement "the brain cannot process 'of'" is a bit ridiculous, > of course, but I do think that the brain does tend to skip over > structure words (as opposed to content words). Well I think the brain skips over common words as opposed to uncommon. I also think that the brain "skips over" them especially for people who grew up "sounding it out" for spellings--a person for whom spelling is a separate and visual thing will catch many more Fs. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:20:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHKo0m026474 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:20:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:20:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F09528@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:20:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:04:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3EGsjvS001208 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:54:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 17111 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Apr 2005 16:54:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:54:45 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Message-ID: <20050414165445.GC6264@words-l.org> References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 10:02:25AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 4/14/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > > > more fun or less fun to ask the list, the truth is I couldn't > > find an answer. > > > > What is progressive grammar? > > I don't know. I'd guess it is something like a step by step introduction to the grammar. It has a very Wren-and-Martin sound. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:33:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHWw0m027986 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:33:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:33:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EADC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:22:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 537271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:22:57 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3EHCuFA006263 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:12:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 26352 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Apr 2005 17:12:56 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:12:56 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Message-ID: <20050414171256.GD6264@words-l.org> References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Not relevant to the original topic ... While searching for "progressive grammar" I came across an article which says this: The vexed problem of chillu encoding has been a serious road block in adoption of the Unicode standard for Malayalam computing. People have been very quick to dismiss the Chillu as mere half a consonant. I am very sure that such "dismissals" are happening much more frequently than is realized, and are posing significant problems to Unicode adoption. I also cannot shake off one more suspicion: you know how spoken languages are treated as the holiest of holy, with automatic authority and a right to be preserved and other bullshit ... I bet writing systems don't get any such treatment. Because, in another manifestation of bullshit, they are considered derivative, expendable, not important. Like, the Malayalam SCRIPT just has "quirks" that ought to be "reformed", while the spoken language is a worthy object is all its glory. So what is it, the script is not ancient enough? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:54:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHrt0m030747 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:53:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:54:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F099E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:53:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 547429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:53:29 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EHrSvn018901 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:53:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.115]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414175328.JXEV2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:53:28 -0400 Message-ID: <425EAE16.4020206@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:53:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > What is progressive grammar? > > I found 'progressive grammar tuition' and more such collocations which > suggested that probably the grammar wasn't called progressive but it was > just taught to pupils step by step whence the 'progress'. Yet > expressions like 'progressive grammar of a such-and-such language' are > also used. Maybe descriptive grammar of a language through its > progress/development in the history? I've never heard the term, but I would say that it's not likely to be about progress/development in history. My guess is that it might be something more like the use of "progressive" in politics and stuff -- sort of opposed to conservative/traditional. But I don't really know. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:54:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHrt0m030745 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:53:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:54:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F0997E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:49:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 546497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:49:32 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EHnWtB017583 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:49:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.115]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414174932.JUWN2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:49:32 -0400 Message-ID: <425EAD28.3050905@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:49:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Test References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >I didn't read it. I only counted the "F"s Is that cheating? > > Interesting question. I can see how it would make a difference, but the instructions didn't say that you had to read the words. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:54:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHrt0m030743 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:53:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:54:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F098DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:43:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 545244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:43:53 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EHhqHq016219 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:43:53 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433A397724 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:43:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29472-10 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252E197720 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:43:51 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425EABD3.1020200@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:43:47 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <20050414171256.GD6264@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050414171256.GD6264@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.306 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > The vexed problem of chillu encoding has been a serious road > block in adoption of the Unicode standard for Malayalam computing. > People have been very quick to dismiss the Chillu as mere half > a consonant. > >Like, the Malayalam >SCRIPT just has "quirks" that ought to be "reformed", while the spoken >language is a worthy object is all its glory. So what is it, the script >is not ancient enough? > When it comes to changing a script all international, extranational, neighbournational standards suck. As well as (international, extranational, neighbournational) *extralinguistic* standards when a spoke language is going to be changed. I still feel disappointed -- yes, disappointed is how I feel about it -- for the dismission of double negation in standard/educated English, just because it was thought to be illogical. What has a language to do with formal logic! (Well, unfortunately written language does have something to do with it -- otherwise there were no need for interpunction.) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:55:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHt10m030966 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:55:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:55:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EB34E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:55:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 547761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:54:57 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EHss0r019176 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:54:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.115]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414175454.JXYP2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:54:54 -0400 Message-ID: <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:54:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>expressions like 'progressive grammar of a such-and-such language' are >>also used. >> >> >I would think the latter means things like "present progressive". The >grammar of progressive tenses. (Are they tenses?) > > No imho -- i.e., not tenses. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:57:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHvL0m031164 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:57:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:57:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F09A6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:57:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 548297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:57:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EHvCxD019620 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:57:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so39845nzp for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.31.10 with SMTP id e10mr132817nze; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:57:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EV5GFyGsQzO1VFLAU4thlnSq5w7QeZX5kBuiQEAYafKoz1rirKwrSoOZzuc3WmGC2oJCk2QP5pfgbM5avblpt/YMJluYaCdZfaSO4Cl1OEUqCc8I46/+772bjaWS4+syhVR1N7ropGYYxVLAf00mtHcJPybg3GsRPYbToclap2Y= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:57:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl In-Reply-To: <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3EHvL0m031164 On 4/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>expressions like 'progressive grammar of a such-and-such language' are > >>also used. > >> > >> > >I would think the latter means things like "present progressive". The > >grammar of progressive tenses. (Are they tenses?) > > > > > No imho -- i.e., not tenses. What are they, then? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:58:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EHvx0m031276 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:58:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:58:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F09A6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:57:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 548450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:57:58 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EHvobM019735 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:57:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.115]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414175749.JZTJ2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:57:49 -0400 Message-ID: <425EAF1B.1020501@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:57:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's a site that contrasts "progressive grammar instruction" with "traditional grammar instruction": http://homepages.wmich.edu/~jbush/grammar/brycephil.pdf -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 13:04:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EI4b0m032340 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:04:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:04:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EB3A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:04:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 550330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:04:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EI4bvt022282 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:04:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so1369682nzp for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr134241nzb; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:04:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XKuWNtgBvKLJ1kBvMWWVYnuupz2IVbLuNfKm/txP9ikeYlQfIlWpSGxu0Bmhlt2WEF3D2i5d+wCpn8+aFrWBC2b+mjcDx6fxyMV5770uJMhzOIiY3/m6vJJ1IsSzGAo1V0xfiKv1+Vc13qs41tagB9jeZRR2uWeQ+pSxRfLmzkQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:04:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl In-Reply-To: <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3EI4b0m032340 On 4/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>>I would think the latter means things like "present progressive". The > >>>grammar of progressive tenses. (Are they tenses?) > >>> > >>> > >>No imho -- i.e., not tenses. > >> > >> > > > >What are they, then? > > > > > What are what -- the progressive forms? "Forms" would suit me. > Possibly aspect. I can't see them as tense since I see English as > having only two tenses. E.g., "was singing" = past + be + ing + sing, > and "is singing" = present + be + ing + sing. > I am speechless. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 13:11:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EIAq0m000224 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:10:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:11:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EB4EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:10:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 551573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:10:51 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EIAkEK024240 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:10:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.115]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414181046.KHRF2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:10:46 -0400 Message-ID: <425EB224.50400@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:10:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>What are what -- the progressive forms? "Forms" would suit me. >>Possibly aspect. I can't see them as tense since I see English as >>having only two tenses. E.g., "was singing" = past + be + ing + sing, >>and "is singing" = present + be + ing + sing. >> >> > >I am speechless. > > Any particular reason? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 13:16:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EIGf0m001034 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:16:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:16:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EB472@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:16:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 552294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:16:41 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EIGftB025762 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:16:41 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F09C54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:16:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200504141816.j3EIGftB025762@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:16:41 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:39:00 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 08:15:32AM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> Let's see. I have a tendency to interrupt in conversations, >> even with people for whom that's not ok. > >Who are these people? Are they the ones who shriek "I am not >finished yet"? What if the listener is finished with their >ass? Yes, some are those (shriekers). Others interrupt to give their opinion and when I try to finish my sentence say "no, don't interrupt me". But also, there are those who can't abide multiple conversations within a small group - perhaps those who grew up without siblings, or who can't differentiate between different pitches - and thus, asides and running commentary operate on them as a specialized form of torture. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 13:48:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EImG0m005307 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:48:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:48:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F09B11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:01:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 549580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:01:22 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EI1M8Y021249 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:01:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.115]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414180122.KBWN2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:01:22 -0400 Message-ID: <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:01:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>>I would think the latter means things like "present progressive". The >>>grammar of progressive tenses. (Are they tenses?) >>> >>> >>No imho -- i.e., not tenses. >> >> > >What are they, then? > > What are what -- the progressive forms? "Forms" would suit me. Possibly aspect. I can't see them as tense since I see English as having only two tenses. E.g., "was singing" = past + be + ing + sing, and "is singing" = present + be + ing + sing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 13:54:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EIsY0m005964 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:54:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:54:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EB3BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:22:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 552828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:22:06 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EIM5cN026420 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:22:05 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F09C5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:22:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200504141822.j3EIM5cN026420@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:22:05 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Test To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:50:02 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 07:33:20AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> The statement "the brain cannot process 'of'" is a bit ridiculous, >> of course, but I do think that the brain does tend to skip over >> structure words (as opposed to content words). > >Well I think the brain skips over common words as opposed >to uncommon. I also think that the brain "skips over" them >especially for people who grew up "sounding it out" for >spellings--a person for whom spelling is a separate and >visual thing will catch many more Fs. Or we are used to alphabetizing from the left, and search there first. I have a hard time spotting the f in "scientific", even though I've seen this puzzle a couple of dozen times since 1991. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 13:54:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EIsY0m005962 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:54:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:54:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EB4A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:19:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 552683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:19:59 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EIJxMc026260 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:19:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48D2975D9 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:19:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01482-06 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:19:58 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A978973FF for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:19:58 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425EB447.5010103@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:19:51 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.265 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>> >>> >>since I see English as >>having only two tenses. E.g., "was singing" = past + be + ing + sing, >>and "is singing" = present + be + ing + sing. >> >I am speechless. > :-) I think this may be be a topic for discussion but certainly not for arguing. Grammars of various languages can be treated in so many ways. Just some find some treatments or ways of analysis of a language more convenient or logical. Very different analyses can be equally good and logical for describing a language, can't they. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 13:54:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EIsY0m005965 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:54:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:54:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EB609@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:33:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 554405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:33:14 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EIXENW029427 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:33:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704BE97744 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:33:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03679-02 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:33:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6159C97715 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:33:09 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425EB75E.5080100@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:33:02 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <425EAF1B.1020501@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <425EAF1B.1020501@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.312 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Here's a site that contrasts "progressive grammar instruction" with > "traditional grammar instruction": > > 0http://homepages.wmich.edu/~jbush/grammar/brycephil.pdf Aha. Makes sense. Funny at the first sight ("grammar" is a naughty word...), but, yes, why not. Language can be taught very well in that way. I wonder whether there really may be Old English textbooks meant for such instruction, but then: why not? Short texts with simple commentaries, or translations into Modern English, avoiding the names of cases and tenses - it may be so. Kristin > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 14:14:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EJEp0m008503 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:14:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:14:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EB7A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:14:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 559995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:14:51 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3EJ4ngM006133 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:04:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 84867 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Apr 2005 19:04:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:04:49 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Message-ID: <20050414190449.GA78278@words-l.org> References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> <425EB447.5010103@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <425EB447.5010103@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 09:19:51PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > I think this may be be a topic for discussion but certainly not for > arguing. Grammars of various languages can be treated in so many ways. > Just some find some treatments or ways of analysis of a language more > convenient or logical. Very different analyses can be equally good > and logical for describing a language, can't they. Have you been sneaking off to Buddhist day camp again? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 14:18:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EJIV0m008948 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:18:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:18:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EB6CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:18:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 561949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:18:30 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EJIUh2009448 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:18:30 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0A0E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:18:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200504141918.j3EJIUh2009448@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:18:30 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: imftatl To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:33:02 +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Here's a site that contrasts "progressive grammar instruction" with >> "traditional grammar instruction": >> >> 0http://homepages.wmich.edu/~jbush/grammar/brycephil.pdf > >Aha. Makes sense. Funny at the first sight ("grammar" is a naughty >word...), but, yes, why not. Language can be taught very well in that >way. I wonder whether there really may be Old English textbooks meant >for such instruction, but then: why not? Short texts with simple >commentaries, or translations into Modern English, avoiding the names of >cases and tenses - it may be so. > >Kristin > >> Yes, but there must be another reading also - else why title a book "Progressive Grammar of X" (eg of Tamil)? My guess is that the "progression" in the title is a developmental model of acquisition - that you learn the easy parts of grammar and then the more complex ones. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 14:33:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EJXd0m010542 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:33:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:33:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EB7F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:23:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 561156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:23:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3EJDcLg008193 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:13:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 86285 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Apr 2005 19:06:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:06:57 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Test Message-ID: <20050414190657.GB78278@words-l.org> References: <200504141822.j3EIM5cN026420@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504141822.j3EIM5cN026420@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 02:22:05PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:50:02 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > > >On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 07:33:20AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> The statement "the brain cannot process 'of'" is a bit ridiculous, > >> of course, but I do think that the brain does tend to skip over > >> structure words (as opposed to content words). > > > >Well I think the brain skips over common words as opposed > >to uncommon. I also think that the brain "skips over" them > >especially for people who grew up "sounding it out" for > >spellings--a person for whom spelling is a separate and > >visual thing will catch many more Fs. > > Or we are used to alphabetizing from the left, and search there first. > I have a hard time spotting the f in "scientific", even though I've > seen this puzzle a couple of dozen times since 1991. Sure ... I should have been clearer, my point was more about the "I think" part--that there are any number of theories ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 15:53:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EKrO0m019201 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:53:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:53:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EBB28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:53:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 573695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:53:24 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EKrOAX026559 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:53:24 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EBC28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:53:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200504142053.j3EKrOAX026559@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:53:23 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Test To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:06:57 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 02:22:05PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:50:02 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog > L.ORG> wrote: >> >> >On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 07:33:20AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> The statement "the brain cannot process 'of'" is a bit ridiculous, >> >> of course, but I do think that the brain does tend to skip over >> >> structure words (as opposed to content words). >> > >> >Well I think the brain skips over common words as opposed >> >to uncommon. I also think that the brain "skips over" them >> >especially for people who grew up "sounding it out" for >> >spellings--a person for whom spelling is a separate and >> >visual thing will catch many more Fs. >> >> Or we are used to alphabetizing from the left, and search there first. >> I have a hard time spotting the f in "scientific", even though I've >> seen this puzzle a couple of dozen times since 1991. > >Sure ... I should have been clearer, my point was more >about the "I think" part--that there are any number of >theories ... And I suppose you'd have me say "I should have been less interested in my pet theory, and more attentive to your actual post"? Well, we all have dreams! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 15:56:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EKu90m019534 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:56:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:56:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EBB38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:56:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 573890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:56:09 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EKu6Hn027037 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:56:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.128.196]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414205544.RITP18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:55:44 -0400 Message-ID: <425ED89E.9040000@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:54:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> <425EB447.5010103@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <425EB447.5010103@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >> I am speechless. >> > :-) > > I think this may be be a topic for discussion but certainly not for > arguing. Grammars of various languages can be treated in so many ways. > Just some find some treatments or ways of analysis of a language more > convenient or logical. Very different analyses can be equally good and > logical for describing a language, can't they. Yes. That is I why I clearly said things like "I see" and "in my view." I have no argument to make and am not at all sure what it is that Karen was speechless about. I tend to subscribe to what I'd call pretty much the description of English verbs -- the one given in widely used textbooks like Kolln. (My only problem with Kolln is that I find it a bit difficult to insist on assigning tense to modals in today's English, in some of them more than in others of them, but I do understand why her verb-expansion rules require it -- or at least why it makes them since it allows T to be the first thing applied in any verb string.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 16:00:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EL070m019894 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:00:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:00:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EBB4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:00:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 574199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:00:06 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EL06ME027811 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:00:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.128.196]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414205834.RKXB18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:58:34 -0400 Message-ID: <425ED978.8090403@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:58:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <425EAF1B.1020501@maynor.net> <425EB75E.5080100@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <425EB75E.5080100@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > I wonder whether there really may be Old English textbooks meant > for such instruction, but then: why not? Short texts with simple > commentaries, or translations into Modern English, avoiding the names of > cases and tenses - it may be so. I dunno. Somehow that seems alien to me with a non-living language, but that may simply be -- or it may be that I find OE cases such fun, including their names. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 16:25:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ELP20m023035 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:25:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:25:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EBC5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:18:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:18:44 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ELIhio030927 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:18:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.128.196]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414211843.JSXZ2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:18:43 -0400 Message-ID: <425EDE31.8040408@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:18:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quote help References: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry Clark wrote: >In "A Tale Of Two Cities" which character says "It was the best of >times, it was the worst of times..."? > > The Narrator (who is nameless, iirc). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 16:25:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ELP20m023040 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:25:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:25:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EBCA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:24:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:24:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ELOH0p031946 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:24:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so80502nzp for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.19 with SMTP id f19mr148546nzb; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m3dT9bbRq220PZxA3nJ48ctEBb0U0VDqJu1Q08uMyIBcnLDhMSfGVsAsUpxHoQHKSWbqDekhJGrXJw3kIHYiTr3PBQc0gAFBoxJtdwLCn/SPg7qZaFZM/+ExHgV22g0F0yyOeNoTiOLhe7zNIW9KcrMuN/oHN/t8izhCDQGRFVI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041414242adf7b31@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:24:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quote help In-Reply-To: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ELP20m023040 Charles Dickens.:) (That's what googling gets you...) On 4/14/05, Larry Clark wrote: > > In "A Tale Of Two Cities" which character says "It was the best of > times, it was the worst of times..."? > > Larry > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 16:25:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ELP20m023036 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:25:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:25:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EBC40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:15:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 576595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:15:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ELF1Sh030139 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:15:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so78918nzp for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.31.10 with SMTP id e10mr147556nze; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.15 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:15:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hQXWYTXGGEUwVkEpHY/32ddtPhiySzJTRYn3Mp4GQkR4rKi0kPiDoHP6ieKhenPBIG1/zgk/1zBcPy2V2MNHzvVFTf48Zk6B92P8qFgoxq09Y/2vjYqZetQXE4Sy/ERnHVIfvDYBSQPipPuyyxQPBl9uOkH19jPZLxnbzAaWfOs= Message-ID: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:15:00 -0700 From: Larry Clark Reply-To: Larry Clark To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Quote help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3ELF1Sh030140 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In "A Tale Of Two Cities" which character says "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..."? Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 17:23:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EMNM0m028461 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:23:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:23:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EBE3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:23:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 581502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:23:21 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3EMDKKc006963 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:13:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 84065 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Apr 2005 22:13:20 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:13:20 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Test Message-ID: <20050414221320.GA82216@words-l.org> References: <200504142053.j3EKrOAX026559@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504142053.j3EKrOAX026559@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 04:53:23PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:06:57 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > > >On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 02:22:05PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:50:02 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog >> L.ORG> wrote: > >> > >> >On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 07:33:20AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> >> The statement "the brain cannot process 'of'" is a bit ridiculous, > >> >> of course, but I do think that the brain does tend to skip over > >> >> structure words (as opposed to content words). > >> > > >> >Well I think the brain skips over common words as opposed > >> >to uncommon. I also think that the brain "skips over" them > >> >especially for people who grew up "sounding it out" for > >> >spellings--a person for whom spelling is a separate and > >> >visual thing will catch many more Fs. > >> > >> Or we are used to alphabetizing from the left, and search there first. > >> I have a hard time spotting the f in "scientific", even though I've > >> seen this puzzle a couple of dozen times since 1991. > > > >Sure ... I should have been clearer, my point was more > >about the "I think" part--that there are any number of > >theories ... > > And I suppose you'd have me say "I should have been less interested in > my pet theory, and more attentive to your actual post"? Well, we all > have dreams! Considering that we are in agreement here, WTF is the reason for your interpunctions? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 17:54:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EMs80m031640 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:54:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:54:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EBEB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:54:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 584072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:54:02 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EMs15n011712 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:54:02 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j3EMrrpJ015634 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:54:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:53:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Movie query In-Reply-To: <20050414221320.GA82216@words-l.org> Message-ID: References: <200504142053.j3EKrOAX026559@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050414221320.GA82216@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm wondering: is that a "Rocky Horror Picture Show" reference I see in the final scene of "Shrek 2"? Of course "Shrek 2" is loaded with movie allusions. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 17:55:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3EMtV0m031787 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:55:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:55:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EBEBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:55:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 584113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:55:31 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3EMtU3O011876 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:55:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.212.100]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050414225530.YKMR2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:55:30 -0400 Message-ID: <425EF4E0.5050903@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:55:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Survivor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Don't forget Survivor! I've got to go somewhere at 6 but have a tape set in case I don't get home by 7. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 19:04:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F04H0m006962 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:04:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:04:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EC099@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:04:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 587293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:04:17 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F04G6V018861 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:04:17 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005041500040801500i4krme>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:04:08 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Deja vu again, baby... Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:04:04 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <200504141816.j3EIGftB025762@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > interrupt me". But also, there are those who can't abide multiple > conversations within a small group - perhaps those who grew up > without siblings, or who can't differentiate between different > pitches - and thus, asides and running commentary operate on them > as a specialized form of torture. > > clo Didn't we talk about this at SnowBash? I love n+1 conversations. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 20:11:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F1An0m014235 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:11:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EC169@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:05:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 590394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:05:03 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F153UP025484 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:05:03 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005041501050201300mosg4e>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:05:02 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Deja vu again, baby... Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:04:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <200504150100.j3F10mAW025066@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yes! and wasn't it fun? > clo Yes! It was. I can't believe it was so long ago already. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 20:11:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F1An0m014233 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:11:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EC215@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:00:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 590138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:00:48 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F10mAW025066 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:00:48 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0AE1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:00:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200504150100.j3F10mAW025066@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:00:48 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:04:04 -0400, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> interrupt me". But also, there are those who can't abide multiple >> conversations within a small group - perhaps those who grew up >> without siblings, or who can't differentiate between different >> pitches - and thus, asides and running commentary operate on them >> as a specialized form of torture. >> >> clo > >Didn't we talk about this at SnowBash? I love n+1 conversations. > >--Adam Yes! and wasn't it fun? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 20:11:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F1BP0m014326 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:11:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:11:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EC24A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:11:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 590771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:11:25 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F1BO4Y026232 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:11:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.101.193]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415011124.GCBP2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:11:24 -0400 Message-ID: <425F14BA.3060306@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:11:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Don't Say Anything Yet About Survivor! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just got home from Fondren's Arts, Eats, & Beats, a wonderful party covering several blocks -- didn't know I was going to stay as long as I did but had a great time. I'm about to rewind the Survivor tape but am probably not going to watch it until tomorrow night. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 20:23:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F1Mf0m015491 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:22:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:22:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EC18B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:12:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 590814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:12:40 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F1Ce4g026360 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:12:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.101.193]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415011239.GCZA2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:12:39 -0400 Message-ID: <425F1506.2050009@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:12:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deja vu again, baby... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >Yes! It was. I can't believe it was so long ago already. > > Which means it's time to start planning the date of next year's... -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 20:25:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F1PO0m015821 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:25:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:25:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EC27F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:25:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 591366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:25:23 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F1PNE0027575 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:25:23 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005041501252201400ionnqe>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:25:22 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Deja vu again, baby... Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:25:18 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <425F1506.2050009@maynor.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Which means it's time to start planning the date of next year's... See the subject line. I knew you'd say that! --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 21:22:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F2MD0m021640 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:22:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:22:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EC3FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:22:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:22:13 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F2MCkd004816 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:22:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.101.193]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415022212.CLXW2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:22:12 -0400 Message-ID: <425F2552.2080500@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:22:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Green Light Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's ok to talk about Survivor. I went on and watched the tape. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 21:36:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F2aP0m022929 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:36:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:36:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EC42D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:36:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:36:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F2aOTS006139 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:36:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so1472853nzp for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.10 with SMTP id u10mr162967nzb; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:36:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jkY5BaDO7U59+Efaec3/Iqnhkw/lHwSMUMpjDdYuHjOdE98hNnm9gZ+8chRW9+BSvdV7GQ8kFfaTXs/S8CZlqxY5zdQf0MTru0IvAu9PiXx1+f/fkxtK/oIu6KQ7TcPmsYZeVoToDEbXWHINpOuHH2HeUDdXuzYz9BWbP6d+fXg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504141936743984d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:36:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Green Light In-Reply-To: <425F2552.2080500@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <425F2552.2080500@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3F2aP0m022929 But I haven't watched it yet, so please label the discussion. TYVM. On 4/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > It's ok to talk about Survivor. I went on and watched the tape. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 21:59:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F2x50m025361 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:59:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:59:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EC3F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:59:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 598811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:59:04 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F2x49n008617 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:59:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.101.193]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415025904.DCHE2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:59:04 -0400 Message-ID: <425F2DF6.3090504@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:59:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Green Light References: <425F2552.2080500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504141936743984d9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504141936743984d9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >But I haven't watched it yet, so please label the discussion. TYVM. > > Wordslers are very good, imho, about this kind of thing. They will honor your red light, which is why I wanted to let it be known that my light was now green. We will wait until your light turns green. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 22:04:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F3420m026202 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:04:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:04:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EC619@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:04:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 601955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:03:41 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F33fxe010032 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:03:41 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.e5.115145fd (4529) for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:03:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:03:31 EDT Subject: my birthday To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've decided to have a very quiet birthday: I'm just going to get a Big Mac meal at McDonald's to eat at home and watch "Witch Hunter Robin" on my DVD player. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 14 23:49:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F4nl0m004992 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:49:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:49:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F0B681@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 0:49:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 608201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:49:46 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3F4dj4M019010 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:39:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 24290 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Apr 2005 04:39:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:39:45 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Bruce Willis honored Message-ID: <20050415043945.GA22479@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bruce Willis, who recently celebrated his 50th birthday, was named an officer in the Order of Arts and Letters in Paris for his cultural contributions through film. What can I do to celebrate this truly beautiful piece of news? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 00:13:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F5D50m008078 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:13:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:13:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F0B6FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 1:13:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 609825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:13:05 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F5D4tv022213 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:13:05 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8268B9FE25218 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:09:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c54179$6d1c0bd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20050415043945.GA22479@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Bruce Willis honored Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:10:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" To: Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:39 PM Subject: Bruce Willis honored > Bruce Willis, who recently celebrated his 50th birthday, was > named an officer in the Order of Arts and Letters in Paris > for his cultural contributions through film. > > What can I do to celebrate this truly beautiful piece of news? Shave your head. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 00:55:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F5tY0m012370 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:55:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:55:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0B7F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 1:55:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:55:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F5tX2r025746 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:55:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so1501865nzp for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.13 with SMTP id m13mr171556nzb; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.15 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:55:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CG7OVmAnmElZaht8eMVD9DayzLrhACa3L8eC8dmoDXRYvW0c2Zj//uClzRryfcbUfMT44gzactwTg7nnc4jYKn3iHxE8KlRH6s5dtxJHgktB9gxkshy2ZBa14i9piXFNpZr3SobDHRkbNT9zs2mbF8xQ4B+0yveneveKIvwKaSs= Message-ID: <945393270504142255302f0f11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:55:32 -0700 From: Larry Clark Reply-To: Larry Clark To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quote help In-Reply-To: <425EDE31.8040408@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <425EDE31.8040408@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3F5tX2r025748 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 4/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Larry Clark wrote: > > >In "A Tale Of Two Cities" which character says "It was the best of > >times, it was the worst of times..."? > > > > > The Narrator (who is nameless, iirc). Thanks. That's what I thought but a google search only confused the issue. Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 00:58:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F5w10m012569 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:58:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:58:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EC931@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 1:58:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:58:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F5w0m4025952 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:58:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so1502234nzp for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.18 with SMTP id u18mr172030nzb; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.15 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:57:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZNx22xnxbsalPcDbbOykQxOT1yKbDXYXYhy1TBqsmcpca9Ecc2yoRvb2yhkiiYKh00tc9G/IGUD5a3y26JGpjxP9+R9pd5sDBgGZ7rr6+J1sNLyjMOU4PLCt7b63MQ/ovBiAj4grSChkEn6gUNQu1eUheM/bbzpvzoUgAt7WR5E= Message-ID: <9453932705041422572fb71c5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:57:59 -0700 From: Larry Clark Reply-To: Larry Clark To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: stupid challenge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3F5w0m4025954 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you haven't anything better to do, this may be entertaining (or aggravating) http://www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 02:10:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F7Ap0m021784 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:10:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:10:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005ECA0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 3:00:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 614697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:00:51 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3F70nVC032275 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:00:50 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041508591401552 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:59:14 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:00:48 +0200 Message-ID: <425F669F.4050604@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:00:47 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bruce Willis honored References: <20050415043945.GA22479@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050415043945.GA22479@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2005 07:00:48.0294 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA406C60:01C54188] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog skrev 15.04.2005 06:39: > Bruce Willis, who recently celebrated his 50th birthday, was > named an officer in the Order of Arts and Letters in Paris > for his cultural contributions through film. > >What can I do to celebrate this truly beautiful piece of news? > > > Go and see The Fifth Eelement. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 03:11:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F8BG0m030424 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:11:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:11:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005ECAA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 4:11:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 616897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:11:16 -0400 Received: from mxfep04.bredband.com (mxfep04.bredband.com [195.54.107.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F8BEjx007782 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:11:15 -0400 Received: from mxfep04 ([195.54.107.79] [195.54.107.79]) by mxfep04.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050415081113.DBLR24317.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:11:13 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Movie query Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:11:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050415081113.DBLR24317.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry asks: > I'm wondering: is that a "Rocky Horror Picture Show" reference I see > in the final scene of "Shrek 2"? Remind me what happens in the last scene and I may be able to help you. Marcia, Rocky Horror fan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 04:11:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3F9B30m004985 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:11:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:11:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005ECB1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 5:11:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:11:03 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3F9B2vH012760; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:11:02 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 94479300; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:11:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050415021100.026862e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:11:14 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Bruce Willis honored In-Reply-To: <20050415043945.GA22479@words-l.org> References: <20050415043945.GA22479@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:39 PM 4/14/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Bruce Willis, who recently celebrated his 50th birthday, was > named an officer in the Order of Arts and Letters in Paris > for his cultural contributions through film. > >What can I do to celebrate this truly beautiful piece of news? Super size your Big Mac. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 05:31:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FAUx0m020754 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:31:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:31:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005ECC53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 6:30:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 621635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:30:59 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FAUwe1021007 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:30:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.212.165]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415103058.NOLL2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:30:58 -0400 Message-ID: <425F97DF.4020002@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:30:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my birthday References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: >I've decided to have a very quiet birthday: I'm just going to >get a Big Mac meal at McDonald's to eat at home and >watch "Witch Hunter Robin" on my DVD player. > > Sounds like a good plan. Happy Birthday! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 05:32:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FAWh0m020948 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:32:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:32:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005ECB59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 6:32:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 621763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:32:43 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FAWh8X021351 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:32:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.212.165]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415103242.NOVF2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:32:42 -0400 Message-ID: <425F9848.7000002@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:32:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quote help References: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <425EDE31.8040408@maynor.net> <945393270504142255302f0f11@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <945393270504142255302f0f11@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry Clark wrote: >>>In "A Tale Of Two Cities" which character says "It was the best of >>>times, it was the worst of times..."? >>> >>> >>The Narrator (who is nameless, iirc). >> >> > >Thanks. That's what I thought but a google search only confused the issue. > > I wouldn't trust me totally on such a question, but the good thing about questions/answers on Words-L is that others will be quick to jump in to correct an erroneous answer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 07:21:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FCLg0m002075 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:21:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:21:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0C089@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 8:21:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 625850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:21:42 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FCLg06027116 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:21:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.212.165]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415122142.HVLJ2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:21:42 -0400 Message-ID: <425FB1CB.8060503@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:21:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my birthday References: <200504151218.j3FCIqLP026388@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504151218.j3FCIqLP026388@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Let us not forget another important birthday, though it was an estimate of the actual dob: Bernard Chien Perro, 15 April 1982 - 13 June 1998. MHRIP. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 07:28:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FCSr0m003061 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:28:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:28:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005ECEFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 8:18:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 625229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:18:53 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FCIqLP026388 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:18:52 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0C044@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 8:18:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200504151218.j3FCIqLP026388@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:18:52 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: my birthday To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU V's bday has started well - we went to breakfast at the local diner, which still has some of the same records in the jukebox, still for a quarter; but the mechanism misfired, and it gave him three songs instead of two! We'll have lunch together, too. But no trip to camp yet this year; it's been really wet, and the dirt roads will be too muddy still. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 07:32:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FCW30m003472 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:32:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:32:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005ED1C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 8:32:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 627170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:32:02 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3FCW19L030149 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:32:02 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041514302605062 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:30:26 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:32:00 +0200 Message-ID: <425FB440.5010100@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:32:00 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my birthday References: <200504151218.j3FCIqLP026388@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <425FB1CB.8060503@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <425FB1CB.8060503@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2005 12:32:00.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F261FE0:01C541B7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 15.04.2005 14:21: > Let us not forget another important birthday, though it was an > estimate of the actual dob: Bernard Chien Perro, 15 April 1982 - 13 > June 1998. MHRIP. Indeed, MH. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 07:33:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FCXf0m003668 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:33:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:33:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F0C128@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 8:31:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 627077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:31:31 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FCVVK0029965 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:31:31 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so830543wra for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.1.33 with SMTP id 33mr1670621wra; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.6 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:31:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sQA/PgEiMQwivBcUo/dqSphRe9Yu1XmhGpN7e4fqLJQntVLdEiyaUkI4azuZoLVJB7XHuBfb0i7KAXKvohB34sJil3DaUWK4Akjhlya0p9rOG4UO5fuxJ6rffIozcPNrS92m49rEjz3HQxmp9y8gms7uA2iwPBAd6hzq7qLd0Vg= Message-ID: <44dce1c10504150531754051a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:31:30 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my birthday In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3FCVVK0029970 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday Evelyn!- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 07:33:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FCXf0m003669 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:33:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:33:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F0C0A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 8:23:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 625991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:23:41 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FCNfZj027472 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:23:41 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0C098@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 8:23:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200504151223.j3FCNfZj027472@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:23:40 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Bruce Willis honored To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:39:45 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Bruce Willis, who recently celebrated his 50th birthday, was > named an officer in the Order of Arts and Letters in Paris > for his cultural contributions through film. > >What can I do to celebrate this truly beautiful piece of news? Send him lilies. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 08:00:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FCxp0m006398 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:59:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:00:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005ED353@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 8:59:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 630938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:59:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FCxkRo003811 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:59:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so27818nzp for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.8 with SMTP id m8mr190564nzb; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:59:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iPKWVh6r9M3H1ppXzeHoxm/gVQ0JlleNeTjl6n8ADRoZAsWoq7vzQttAVFpWvLTclcHhSiFpI6ZZiU9TbAm8hXNyJpvZwIt48ABS0lI8KGHbN2zV7Pic5/is4cqLCehKOz4U86ylwunewEJ9YLwjorOKsinqvoJ6riXZIp9J+AM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041505597e35f0ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:59:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quote help In-Reply-To: <945393270504142255302f0f11@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <425EDE31.8040408@maynor.net> <945393270504142255302f0f11@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3FCxp0m006398 On 4/15/05, Larry Clark wrote: > > On 4/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Larry Clark wrote: > > > > >In "A Tale Of Two Cities" which character says "It was the best of > > >times, it was the worst of times..."? > > > > > > > > The Narrator (who is nameless, iirc). > > Thanks. That's what I thought but a google search only confused the issue. > FTR, that's what I thought, too. Googling was pretty amazingly unhelpful! -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 08:10:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FDAW0m007904 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:10:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:10:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0C370@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 9:10:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 632049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:10:26 -0400 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FDAQFo005558 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:10:26 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.a0.26825e0a (4196) for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:10:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:10:16 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] my birthday To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 4/15/2005 7:40:53 AM Central Daylight Time, terry.wild@GMAIL.COM writes: Happy Birthday Evelyn!- Thanks! It's Monday, and I have the day off from work. It's the first birthday without Mom, so that's why it's going to be a quiet one. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 08:11:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FDBB0m007950 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:11:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:11:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005ED30A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 9:11:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 632080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:11:11 -0400 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com (imo-m14.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FDBBMn005692 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:11:11 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.15.42c577fe (4196) for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:11:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <15.42c577fe.2f911768@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:11:04 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] my birthday To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 4/15/2005 5:32:12 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: Sounds like a good plan. Happy Birthday! Thanks! Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 08:13:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FDDD0m008223 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:13:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:13:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005ED212@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 9:13:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 632161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:13:13 -0400 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FDD0mE006089 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:13:00 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.12d.5a7e6cec (4196) for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:12:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <12d.5a7e6cec.2f9117d6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:12:54 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] my birthday To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 4/15/2005 7:19:09 AM Central Daylight Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: V's bday has started well - we went to breakfast at the local diner, which still has some of the same records in the jukebox, still for a quarter; but the mechanism misfired, and it gave him three songs instead of two! That sounds nice! Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 08:13:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FDDl0m008304 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:13:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:13:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F0C36D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 9:13:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 632494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:13:46 -0400 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FDDcS8006269 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:13:38 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.f.42e7d09b (4196) for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:13:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:13:32 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] my birthday To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 4/15/2005 7:22:02 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: Bernard Chien Perro, 15 April 1982 - 13 June 1998. MHRIP. Indeed. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 08:45:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FDjS0m012461 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:45:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:45:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0C5EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 9:45:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 636882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:45:28 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FDjRMa013394 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:45:28 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8549784D for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:45:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23948-02 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:45:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C059781E for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:45:26 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425FC575.7040303@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:45:25 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> <425EB447.5010103@akad.ee> <20050414190449.GA78278@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050414190449.GA78278@words-l.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.078 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 09:19:51PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >>I think this may be be a topic for discussion but certainly not for >>arguing. Grammars of various languages can be treated in so many ways. >>Just some find some treatments or ways of analysis of a language more >>convenient or logical. Very different analyses can be equally good >>and logical for describing a language, can't they. >> >> > >Have you been sneaking off to Buddhist day camp again? > LOL. For me my statements here seemed to sound doctrinaire as if said by an authoritative teacher who knows she's always right. And the only thing I could find to add to lessen the effect was the little tag, "can't they", and yet I was unwilling to add even a question mark to it. Btw, I've never attended a Buddhist camp or retreat. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 09:04:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FE3w0m015838 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:04:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:04:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005ED65C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:00:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 638717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:00:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FE0WR6017166 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:00:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so38613nzp for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.19 with SMTP id f19mr194581nzb; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:00:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RRGtJbC00nUR2ONeM928CZHp8yHIQwD30rePfmXNUuylc5dQv0EJrxtg+RHUj5IhWQ/FlIdWx/8I/HKBRllR2sFCXOC1e6VlfZY0/0S1IXgBG89+X1PMCnhgcopdSTT830uDvmiWm5ogGIDfgeztVcAhahyFcp2cdC8Ahli0yPo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:00:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Survivor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3FE3w0m015838 You can talk about it now. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 09:04:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FE3w0m015835 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:04:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:04:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005ED55F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 9:53:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 637893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:53:57 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FDrvdj015559 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:53:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086279786C for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:53:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25977-04 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:53:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1169786A for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:53:55 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425FC772.30408@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:53:54 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> <425EB447.5010103@akad.ee> <425ED89E.9040000@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <425ED89E.9040000@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.314 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I tend to subscribe to what I'd call > pretty much the description of English verbs -- the one > given in widely used textbooks like Kolln. Her Understanding English Grammar (1982) is available here in the University library, as I just found out. Must have a look at it. > I > do understand why her verb-expansion rules require it -- or at least why > it makes them since it allows T to be the first thing applied > in any verb string.) What is T here? Tense? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 09:04:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FE3w0m015837 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:04:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:04:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005ED5A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:02:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 638943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:02:50 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FE2nJm017789 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:02:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2AF977F7 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:02:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28134-07 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:02:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4790097499 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:02:48 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425FC986.5010805@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:02:46 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <425EAF1B.1020501@maynor.net> <425EB75E.5080100@akad.ee> <425ED978.8090403@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <425ED978.8090403@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.316 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> I wonder whether there really may be Old English textbooks meant >> for such instruction, but then: why not? > > > -- or it may be that I find OE cases > such fun Yes! Maybe it's still not a bad idea to ask the Ansax-list about it. Maybe I'll do it in a couple of days. Today, after having done some more work, I'll go nomail till Sunday evening or Monday for tomorrow I'll "sneak off" to a meeting of the Female Song Society as a representative of our choir and visit my Mother after it. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 09:10:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FEAE0m016427 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:10:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:10:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005ED60D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:10:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 640077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:10:13 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FEADOD020189 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:10:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415141013.DXCY2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:10:13 -0400 Message-ID: <425FCB42.9090003@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:10:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> <425EB447.5010103@akad.ee> <425ED89E.9040000@maynor.net> <425FC772.30408@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <425FC772.30408@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Her Understanding English Grammar (1982) is available here in the > University library, as I just found out. Must have a look at it. That's a very old edition. The first one I used was something like the 3rd edition, I think, and she's into something like the 6th now. In the various editions I've used, the only significant change was the ordering of the chapters. I preferred her older ordering and continued to use it with the later books. (I sound as if I used Kolln zillions of times, which isn't really true. I used various other books off and on. But I tended to return to Kolln.) >> I >> do understand why her verb-expansion rules require it -- or at least why >> it makes them since it allows T to be the first thing applied >> in any verb string.) > > > What is T here? Tense? Yes. For her verb-expansion rules to work, tense has to be applied to the first word in the verb string. That's fine for everything except the modals (imho). With some modals, the tense thing doesn't seem far-fetched since they still have a vestige of . But others feel truly tenseless to me (in today's English). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 09:21:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FELj0m017811 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:21:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:21:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005ED6DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:11:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 640197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:11:44 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FEBiAt020556 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:11:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415141144.DYHU2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:11:44 -0400 Message-ID: <425FCB9D.3010105@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:11:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >You can talk about it now. > > Do you think Stephanie will continue to last? I hope so. Is she black or white or mixed? I had thought white until last night, but she looked kind of black last night. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 09:22:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FELj0m017813 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:21:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:21:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005ED6DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:12:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 640247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:12:33 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FECWSp020692 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:12:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5778797692 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:12:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30221-08 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:12:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C1A97669 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:12:32 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425FCBCD.2050500@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:12:29 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <200504141918.j3EJIUh2009448@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504141918.j3EJIUh2009448@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.274 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >My guess is that the >"progression" in the title is a developmental model of acquisition - >that you learn the easy parts of grammar and then the more complex >ones. > Yes, and although this is probably the most common way of teaching languages nowadays (although systematic "non-progressive" grammars must be and need to be published as well), it may need to be stressed when talking about textbooks of a non-living language. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 09:22:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FELj0m017815 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:21:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:22:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005ED65C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:17:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 641018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:17:14 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FEH8T0021981 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:17:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415141708.ECUD2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:17:08 -0400 Message-ID: <425FCCE1.7000401@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:17:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <425EAF1B.1020501@maynor.net> <425EB75E.5080100@akad.ee> <425ED978.8090403@maynor.net> <425FC986.5010805@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <425FC986.5010805@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >> -- or it may be that I find OE cases >> such fun > > > Yes! > > Maybe it's still not a bad idea to ask the Ansax-list about it. That person's list of characteristics of "progressive" attitudes/practices struck me as extreme in places, btw. He seemed to leap wildly from "all dialects are equal" (linguistically) to "there's no need to teach standard English" (or standard whatever). I don't know any dialectologist or sociolinguist who does not believe that dialects are inherently "equal" in a linguistic sense, but I also don't know any dialectologist or sociolinguist who does not recognize the need for using standard English (or whatever) in some situations. All dialects are certainly NOT equal socially and professionally. > "sneak off" to a meeting of the Female Song Society as a representative > of our choir and visit my Mother after it. Sounds fun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 09:36:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FEaZ0m020021 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:36:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:36:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005ED78A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:31:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 642647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:31:29 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FEVTpC026263 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:31:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7B69739A for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:31:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00543-04 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:31:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40869738B for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:31:27 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425FD03D.3010805@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:31:25 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: my birthday References: <200504151218.j3FCIqLP026388@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <425FB1CB.8060503@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <425FB1CB.8060503@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.32 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Let us not forget another important birthday, though it was an > estimate of the actual dob: Bernard Chien Perro, 15 April 1982 - 13 > June 1998. MHRIP. Happy Birthday to him, if he cares about it in the canine heaven, says Kristin who has "systematically missed" (a favourite expression of some teachers at my school time years ago) so many Wordslers' Birthdays this year although I've always wished them well (sounds plausible, I hope). But Evelyn's Birthday is ahead yet, and I hope to be back and alert that day. K. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 09:36:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FEaZ0m020022 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:36:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:36:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005ED76F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:26:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 642099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:26:34 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FEQY5I024544 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:26:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415142634.EKPD2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:26:34 -0400 Message-ID: <425FCF17.2010403@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:26:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Okra Seeds and Caladiums Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ******** A good rule of thumb in determining when to set out caladiums is to plant them when you plant okra seed in the vegetable garden. ******** from: http://msucares.com/pubs/infosheets/is1523.htm That's fine, but since I've never planted okra seed, I don't know when that is. I guess it's not yet, though, given this statement: ******** A minimum soil temperature of 70 °F is preferred. Planting in cool soil results in slow growth or tuber rot. ***** Ibid. It's still getting a good bit colder than that at night. But I'm in the mood to put some caladiums and impatients in pots. I think I've read or heard that you should really wait until May to plant annuals, though. Mainly, I'm thinking about which kinds of things will make the most comfortable bedding for Spencer when he pots himself on the deck. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 10:26:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FFPr0m026406 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:25:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:26:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005ED8C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:15:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 648543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:15:53 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FFFriZ003057 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:15:53 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3FFFp7U019139 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:15:52 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3FFE75H020278 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:14:08 -0400 Message-ID: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Women from Texas... Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:14:07 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ;-) fwd'd... *** You HAVE to listen to this clip!!! BUT READ THIS FIRST: An operations manager for Jack in the Box out here in Dallas was late for a meeting and called his boss to tell him he was running late. As he was leaving the voice mail message, he witnessed an accident and went on to provide "play by play" of the incident. This is the actual voice mail message. It was forwarded so many times within Jack in the Box, it crashed their voice mail server. This has to be one of the funniest things that I have heard in a while. Enjoy. http://home.swbell.net/kf5tv/voicemail.mp3 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 10:26:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FFPr0m026407 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:25:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:26:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005ED7FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:23:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 649526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:23:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FFN5Yu004561 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:23:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so54988nzp for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.31.10 with SMTP id e10mr200858nze; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YJvENEPgg/lrM1TQ9GEOj1Tjnf+NursL0qkhA1C7yed/hEPuoXV9rKnmeuh+4WrnIjUlEo49hGBUoiV6+w3E9FrWWH7TtjmRcL+A/XgBKRwUjDQ3SGBVCGBJbm09CQXMEhZgbOiW9mdhYQ8ON4HAtJNaDLPFCLmWYlUcGXLfD4k= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041508234a77377d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:23:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <425FCB9D.3010105@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> <425FCB9D.3010105@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3FFPr0m026407 On 4/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Do you think Stephanie will continue to last? I hope so. Is she black > or white or mixed? I had thought white until last night, but she looked > kind of black last night. > I think there are more choices than those. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 10:27:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FFRW0m026674 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:27:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:27:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005ED843@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:27:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 650287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:27:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FFRV0O005695 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:27:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so1612585nzp for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.5 with SMTP id l5mr202098nzc; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:27:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oJnFKuDgoD0wGnx2CgqEHc7ZxNz3JLj2F/x0CrdCW23QoiRmdjkamBU+hSfIegc8gj9b1LEK/lV2CUcXON+Tluh9lF8A6Ze7iroeDmH3lBbG5DRYzw4uwiZlyfsFdza7OjQQulCA4kMOy+bR+0eMNKfXGZbCNBBJRKygxlHFHts= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041508272a0819ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:27:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Idiot Dallas Men... In-Reply-To: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3FFRW0m026674 One does not wonder why he works in food service. On 4/15/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > ;-) fwd'd... > > *** > > You HAVE to listen to this clip!!! BUT READ THIS FIRST: > > An operations manager for Jack in the Box out here in Dallas was late for > a > meeting and called his boss to tell him he was running late. As he was > leaving the voice mail message, he witnessed an accident and went on to > provide "play by play" of the incident. This is the actual voice mail > message. It was forwarded so many times within Jack in the Box, it crashed > their voice mail server. This has to be one of the funniest things that I > have heard in a while. Enjoy. > > http://home.swbell.net/kf5tv/voicemail.mp3 > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 10:39:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FFcv0m027910 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:39:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:39:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EDA94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:38:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 652012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:38:57 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FFcv19008892 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:38:57 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 93182587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:38:57 -0400 Message-ID: <425FE010.40504@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:38:56 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Rally on the Dustbowl References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705041508272a0819ab@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041508272a0819ab@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If any of you have time on your hands in the next hour or so, and have some interest in such things, there will be a rally on the dustbowl at noon. We should be able to see the proceedings at: http://www.bc.edu/publications/atbc/webcams/dustbowl/ It is part of an all-day event: 4-15 Gay Fine By Me 2005 (wear date) Time: 7:00AM - 10:00PM Location: Campus Wide Description: Today all students and members of the BC community who picked up shirts will wear them today in support of their fellow students. This year enough shirts have been handed out to represent 10% of the BC population. If you still have your shirt from last year please wear it today. There is also some kind of strike or march involved that has to do with wanting the text of the University Policy on equality to be more explicit. I'm not too clear on that and can't find anything on our web site that explains it, although there have been articles written about it. I may get more info when I go outside. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 10:40:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FFeP0m028252 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:40:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:40:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EDAA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:40:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 650518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:40:21 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3FFUIkw006412 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:30:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 77522 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Apr 2005 15:30:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:30:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: imftatl Message-ID: <20050415153017.GA75165@words-l.org> References: <425E8392.4020706@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70504140802393b5b56@mail.gmail.com> <425EAE6B.8020908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041410574cc12056@mail.gmail.com> <425EAFF0.8030202@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050414110474754f29@mail.gmail.com> <425EB447.5010103@akad.ee> <20050414190449.GA78278@words-l.org> <425FC575.7040303@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <425FC575.7040303@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 04:45:25PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 09:19:51PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > > >>I think this may be be a topic for discussion but certainly not for > >>arguing. Grammars of various languages can be treated in so many ways. > >>Just some find some treatments or ways of analysis of a language more > >>convenient or logical. Very different analyses can be equally good > >>and logical for describing a language, can't they. > >> > >> > > > >Have you been sneaking off to Buddhist day camp again? > > LOL. For me my statements here seemed to sound doctrinaire as if said by > an authoritative teacher who knows she's always right. And the only > thing I could find to add to lessen the effect was the little tag, > "can't they", and yet I was unwilling to add even a question mark to it. > Btw, I've never attended a Buddhist camp or retreat. Well, they always sounds dotrinaire, and constantly act like authoritative teachers who are always right. Buddhist day camp is absolutely unbearable that way--they don't even try to lessen the effect. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 10:47:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FFlP0m029250 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:47:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:47:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EDA0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:47:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 651791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:47:25 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3FFbOCI008416 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:37:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 80773 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Apr 2005 15:37:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:37:24 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... Message-ID: <20050415153724.GB75165@words-l.org> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:14:07AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > actual voice mail message > > one of the funniest things I knew it ... and yet, I listened to it. A third of the way through, anyway. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 11:34:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FGXh0m002520 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:33:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:33:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EDAFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:23:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 655980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:23:41 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FGNeC4017190 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:23:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB740973DF for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:23:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20160-01 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:23:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDF797724 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:23:38 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <425FEA6B.8050808@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:23:07 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: going nomail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.323 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The time is here again when one must consider the law "no bare toes after dark", thus I'll go. There's more than an hour till the sunset now, and it's been a perfect T-shirt-toes-baring-day, yet we are probably going to get winds and rain and even snow next week or on Sunday already -- maybe I'll call them teeth-baring days then. Natalie wrote: >Kristin wrote: > >"sneak off" to a meeting of the Female Song Society as a representative > >of our choir and visit my Mother after it. >Sounds fun. The meeting-part is more like a job or an obligation, but it may turn out interesting, too. What is fun about it is that I'm glad when I'm sometimes able to do little useful things with temporary, not longlasting responsibility. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 12:28:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FHRr0m009069 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:27:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:27:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EDC75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:27:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 660991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:27:53 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FHRqoK027589 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:27:53 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3FHRo7W006381 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:27:52 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3FHQn5H011171 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:26:50 -0400 Message-ID: <03db01c541e0$4f119800$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050415153724.GB75165@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Re: Women from Texas... Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:26:48 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:14:07AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: >> actual voice mail message >> >> one of the funniest things > > I knew it ... and yet, I listened to it. A third of the way > through, anyway. Is this some sort of empathy with K? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 12:51:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FHpY0m011473 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:51:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:51:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EDC12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:51:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 662425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:51:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3FHfY3e030648 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:41:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 82515 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Apr 2005 17:41:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:41:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... Message-ID: <20050415174133.GA80909@words-l.org> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050415153724.GB75165@words-l.org> <03db01c541e0$4f119800$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <03db01c541e0$4f119800$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 01:26:48PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > >On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:14:07AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > >>actual voice mail message > >> > >>one of the funniest things > > > >I knew it ... and yet, I listened to it. A third of the way > >through, anyway. > > Is this some sort of empathy with K? *SCARY MUSIC* From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 13:41:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FIf20m018192 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:41:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:41:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0D491@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:41:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 668389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:41:00 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FIf0F1010542 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:41:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415184100.OOJB1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:41:00 -0400 Message-ID: <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:40:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > http://home.swbell.net/kf5tv/voicemail.mp3 I should've had an umbrella and Bible with me a little while ago when a woman backed her fat van into the side of my car, doing what I would estimate to be well over $500 worth of damage. I asked her if she had insurance, and she said no -- that she couldn't afford it -- that she had it on her other car but not this car. Neat, huh -- somebody who can afford two cars can't afford insurance. She did say "I'm so sorry I ran into your car." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 13:43:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FIhF0m018451 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:43:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:43:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EDF55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:43:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 668583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:43:15 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FIhEhY010879 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:43:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415184314.OPRE1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:43:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42600B3F.8090804@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:43:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> <425FCB9D.3010105@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041508234a77377d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041508234a77377d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Do you think Stephanie will continue to last? I hope so. Is she black >>or white or mixed? I had thought white until last night, but she looked >>kind of black last night. >> >> > >I think there are more choices than those. > > Of the four so-called races of the world (Black, White, Red, Yellow), I don't think she's full-blooded Yellow. I guess Red is a possibility, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 13:48:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FIlh0m019327 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:47:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:47:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EDF01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:47:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 669653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:47:43 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FIlhT6011819 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:47:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415184743.OSGI1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:47:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42600C4C.7020808@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:47:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Caladiums Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I did go on and buy some caladiums and impatiens this morning. Am about to pot them. If they get too cold, I can always yank them up and plant more. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 13:50:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FIo30m019725 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:50:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:50:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EDF30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:50:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 670151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:50:02 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FIo2x0012318 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:50:02 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3FInu7q018756 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:50:02 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3FIlQ5H012140 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:47:27 -0400 Message-ID: <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Women from Texas... Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:47:25 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Alan Wild wrote: > >> http://home.swbell.net/kf5tv/voicemail.mp3 > > I should've had an umbrella and Bible with me a little while ago when a > woman backed her fat van into the side of my car, doing what I would > estimate to be well over $500 worth of damage. I asked her if she had > insurance, and she said no -- that she couldn't afford it -- that she > had it on her other car but not this car. Neat, huh -- somebody who can > afford two cars can't afford insurance. She did say "I'm so sorry I ran > into your car." > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Well... at least your state hasn't succumbed to the mandatory insurance line yet. Ours had a while ago, along with the argument that "If every everyone paid for insurance, then insurance rates would come down." Har! Now, everyone is paying... and the rates never even dipped. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 14:07:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FJ7F0m021958 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:07:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:07:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EE047@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:57:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 671173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:57:14 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FIvDQ1013697 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:57:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415185713.OXZW1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:57:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:57:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > Well... at least your state hasn't succumbed to the mandatory > insurance line > yet. Ours had a while ago, along with the argument that "If every > everyone > paid for insurance, then insurance rates would come down." > > Har! Now, everyone is paying... and the rates never even dipped. I don't know what it would do to rates, but I do think that requiring it would be a good thing. I didn't bother to do anything like get this woman's phone number since I figured it would be an impossible hassle to try to extract money from her. But I do wish I'd bashed her with a Bible. She started backing up without even looking behind her and was apparently talking to her friend or something so as not to hear my horn blasting. Nothing in her appearance or the appearance of her fat van suggested poverty. I don't wish bodily harm to her but do wish she would run her uninsured, gas-guzzling van into a ditch this afternoon and total it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 14:07:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FJ7F0m021960 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:07:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:07:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EE0A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:06:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 672166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:06:13 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FJ6Cp2015190 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:06:12 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 89455529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:06:12 -0400 Message-ID: <426010A3.50200@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:06:11 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I should've had an umbrella and Bible with me a little while ago when a > woman backed her fat van into the side of my car, doing what I would > estimate to be well over $500 worth of damage. I asked her if she had > insurance, and she said no -- that she couldn't afford it -- that she > had it on her other car but not this car. Neat, huh -- somebody who can > afford two cars can't afford insurance. She did say "I'm so sorry I ran > into your car." > But she IS going to pay for the damage to your car, isn't she? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 14:09:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FJ9X0m022231 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:09:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:09:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EDEFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:09:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 672537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:09:32 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FJ9VQ9015790 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:09:32 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so885000wri for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.32 with SMTP id e32mr1129008wre; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:09:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UCsSZpER3Tx221jrHABRDHhyrWw9S5OD+Y0AT76RuGntnKEbB3mhrRMreJliLIP9ykF3acgi0bCTLffR0aaycHTi5NlC0frGJ8YvuMxd38vi4bxBF2d/RJ+rYAlLpl5UzsL7e3TAabwXP1FoIcroJqOy5O7zJzZOyWAgWxHvqAE= Message-ID: <83db447a050415120967612705@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:09:31 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3FJ9X0m022231 On 4/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I don't know what it would do to rates, but I do think that requiring it > would be a good thing. I didn't bother to do anything like get this > woman's phone number since I figured it would be an impossible hassle to > try to extract money from her. You should at least have taken her license (plate) number---or was she too poor to have one of those? Presumably your insurance company will foot the bill and, armed with a license number, they can (and are well equipped to) take on the hassle. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 15:06:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FK6m0m029552 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:06:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:06:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EE0B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:06:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 677954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:06:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FK6lgc025014 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:06:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so786001wra for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.33.68 with SMTP id g68mr2499331wrg; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:06:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Hp24RJzkxeH37+9gWuGuzStmLI0LQ3SvVcnHjANv9Iop6vQec15QdqvrD1eOO5obgkipPF5AOaGpp6H7TI4FSfj5fcaNuvFL+pcJ0cwT6thlQeU375FRLkcD8DLCIb3OeY0eA9emo3jkfCKTRAsjufpUMp7pYlNDUPnpTkNw5/U= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:06:44 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <42600B3F.8090804@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> <425FCB9D.3010105@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705041508234a77377d@mail.gmail.com> <42600B3F.8090804@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3FK6m0m029552 She's at least part Italian. Last name is LaGrossa. She has a dark tan. And Myles would love those abs! Marie On 4/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>Do you think Stephanie will continue to last? I hope so. Is she black > >>or white or mixed? I had thought white until last night, but she looked > >>kind of black last night. > >> > >> > > > >I think there are more choices than those. > > > > > Of the four so-called races of the world (Black, White, Red, Yellow), I > don't think she's full-blooded Yellow. I guess Red is a possibility, > though. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 15:19:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FKJO0m031036 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:19:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:19:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EE0C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:09:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 678258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:09:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FK9NUE025595 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:09:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so902440wri for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.34 with SMTP id n34mr2244666wrn; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:09:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ADlY61vs7BlNVouUyWG5lxEgq8Qld2dASJGOtJ9622QNi6776DzQAtIYIV/Rcq7U6Kr/BRqLYit4XhA0E4g/HAVMNe04BT8vtE9GWuBj167sIQWdhiVWXO1nPCfTiKTIbzWntxQUzLETSKPE37Ulf416jcY/OEHqvgVME87NYrc= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:09:22 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3FKJO0m031036 Who do you think will be deserted next week? Next week on Survivor whoever loses a challenge will be cast off to live alone. Coby had it coming. Marie On 4/15/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > You can talk about it now. > -- > Karen > "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- > Andy Goldsworthy > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 16:11:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FLBT0m003794 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:11:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:11:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EE230@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:01:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 682947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:01:28 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FL1Sti001283 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:01:28 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1052928wra for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.54.60 with SMTP id c60mr302013wra; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:01:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=uvKNXkIWAcssg8Vocyw4h2I5A7/GJhK/5GoMF13kMZbgnrMoubaSbSS2XHhTnXCjnf00nss+sH1ZzW7VZ6YSgbe6eiPKz709+WfxtMFBPOgDQvqoL+Y7jkI6w1oyMuTXfAycL05pVxgEp+LGMX524ICcK/RnrsPBMESqsamuH0k= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:01:23 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3FLBT0m003794 > > Who do you think will be deserted next week? Next week on Survivor > whoever loses a challenge will be cast off to live alone. > Coby had it coming. --Marie I think Tom will sacrifice himself in order to save any of the women from such a fate. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 16:29:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FLTL0m005460 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:29:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:29:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EE335@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:29:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 685961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:29:21 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FLTK4q005954 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:29:21 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3FLTI7O009672 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:29:20 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3FLRf5H028485 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:27:45 -0400 Message-ID: <00e201c54201$f79b7c90$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <83db447a050415120967612705@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Women from Texas... Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:27:42 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" On 4/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I don't know what it would do to rates, but I do think that requiring it > would be a good thing. I didn't bother to do anything like get this > woman's phone number since I figured it would be an impossible hassle to > try to extract money from her. You should at least have taken her license (plate) number---or was she too poor to have one of those? Presumably your insurance company will foot the bill and, armed with a license number, they can (and are well equipped to) take on the hassle. cwv A thought experiment... Natalie, assume the policy "deductible" is X, and the repair cost is Y, and X < Y. Now suppose you report the accident, then your premiums go up by amount, Z per year, for 3 years, which is the time insurance companies keep track of the liability... So if you do file a claim, your total expense is E = (Y - X) + 3Z Now, if otherwise X > Y, then there'd be no sense in filing a claim at all; there'd only be chance of paying more... but if Y - X > 3Z then you need to file, and save money. ;-P From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 17:19:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FMJg0m010455 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:19:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:19:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EE422@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:19:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 688702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:19:41 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FMJfkK010787 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:19:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415221941.MHBH2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:19:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42603DFA.5000707@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:19:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <426010A3.50200@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <426010A3.50200@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > But she IS going to pay for the damage to your car, isn't she? No. If she can't afford insurance, she can't afford to pay for the damage. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 17:24:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FMOo0m010936 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:24:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:24:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EE450@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:24:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 689150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:24:50 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FMOn5m011320 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:24:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415222449.MIWY2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:24:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42603F2E.20009@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:24:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <83db447a050415120967612705@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050415120967612705@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > You should at least have taken her license (plate) number---or was she too >poor to have one of those? > I did note it: Rankin County 256-RDG. > Presumably your insurance company will foot the >bill and, armed with a license number, they can (and are well equipped to) >take on the hassle. > > I do not plan on involving my insurance company. If I were still in Starkville, I might stop by and tell the story to my friendly Republican agent and get his opinion, but I've never even met my agent here and certainly don't know him well enough to get into story telling and opinion seeking. Even if I wanted to run the risk of messing up my clean record with State Farm, which I don't, I don't think any of it would be paid for anyway since the damage is probably less than $1,000, and I'm pretty sure that's my deductible. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 17:27:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FMRH0m011387 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:27:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:27:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EE457@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:27:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 689252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:27:16 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FMRFMY011529 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:27:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415222715.MJRO2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:27:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42603FC1.2080901@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:27:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >Who do you think will be deserted next week? Next week on Survivor >whoever loses a challenge will be cast off to live alone. > > How weird. Is this the reward challenge -- like the others will be rewarded by getting to stay together? > Coby had it coming. > > I was not sorry to see him go. He was getting on my nerves. But some of the people in this tribe I don't really know anything about. I don't even know most of the names. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 17:31:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FMUv0m011978 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:31:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:31:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EE46F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:30:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 689479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:30:56 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FMUu5R011822 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:30:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.77]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050415223056.MLDM2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:30:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4260409D.2020509@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:30:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <83db447a050415120967612705@mail.gmail.com> <00e201c54201$f79b7c90$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> In-Reply-To: <00e201c54201$f79b7c90$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > Now, if otherwise X > Y, then there'd be no sense in filing a claim > at all; > there'd only be chance of paying more... but if Y - X > 3Z then you > need > to file, and save money. I didn't really have to think of it it terms of mathematical strings to figure out that I do not want to involve my insurance company. The only way it's going to cost me is on the trade-in value of the car, and I've sometimes gotten the feeling that very little matters in that respect -- that they don't much care about anything except maybe the mileage (and, of course, what kind of car it is). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 15 17:55:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3FMt70m014177 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:55:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:55:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005EE5BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:55:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 690452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:55:07 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FMt7lg013660 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:55:07 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3FMt67K021042 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:55:06 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3FMr75H010872 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:53:09 -0400 Message-ID: <011001c5420d$e5c72990$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <83db447a050415120967612705@mail.gmail.com> <00e201c54201$f79b7c90$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <4260409D.2020509@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Women from Texas... Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:53:08 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Alan Wild wrote: > >> Now, if otherwise X > Y, then there'd be no sense in filing a claim >> at all; >> there'd only be chance of paying more... but if Y - X > 3Z then you >> need >> to file, and save money. > > I didn't really have to think of it it terms of mathematical strings to > figure out that I do not want to involve my insurance company. The only > way it's going to cost me is on the trade-in value of the car, and I've > sometimes gotten the feeling that very little matters in that respect -- > that they don't much care about anything except maybe the mileage (and, > of course, what kind of car it is). > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) hmmm... and if, of course, the dent is extensive enough... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 00:11:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3G5Aw0m022298 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:11:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:11:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0E7D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 1:10:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 709667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:10:57 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3G5AvCZ014499 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:10:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1DEBE8C0 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <425FCB9D.3010105@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Jesus died so that we would know when to plant tomatoes X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:10:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Survivor Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:11 AM -0700 4/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Do you think Stephanie will continue to last? I hope so. Unless Stephenie screws up or gets too cocky, I'd be surprised if she didn't make it at least to the final 4. Tom, Ian, and Katie think she's with them, and if Gregg and Jen want to pull off a coup in this coming TC, they'll need her vote -- either way, she stays at least one more episode. Jen apparently fears her as a challenge threat -- and quite rightly so -- but if she's smart, Jen will be willing to use Stephenie to break up TIK, and then try to get her voted off at the first chance after that. Barring IC upsets, Janu and Caryn are being edited as the most likely bootees. In a way, though, Janu's illness will likely shield her for a while, as she is no immunity threat to anyone, and right now smart players are plotting to vote off the *biggest* immunity threat not in their alliance. That in turn points to either Gregg, if TIK have the balls and he doesn't win immunity, or Tom or Ian, if Gregg and Jen have the balls. (I think TIK would take out Caryn before Jen if Gregg won immunity, as they would see her as the greater immunity threat.) One thing that could shake things up is if there is a challenge of the Chopping Coconuts type, and the power alliance telegraphs their boot order too blatantly. Then there's a chance that those who realize they're on the outside will band together and take out the power alliance while they still have the numbers. I consider the possibility of this happening as extremely slim, but it's not negligible. (You know, I don't think EPMB has used a Chopping Coconuts variant for anything except reward challenges since season four. I wonder if that's a conscious decision or just the luck of the draw?) Ken Miller Cesternino School of Survival Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 00:40:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3G5eU0m026145 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:40:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:40:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EEE90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 1:30:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 710024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:30:20 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3G5UKIx015692 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:30:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD6BBE8C0 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Jesus died so that we would know when to plant tomatoes X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:30:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Survivor Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 1:09 PM -0700 4/15/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: >Who do you think will be deserted next week? Next week on Survivor >whoever loses a challenge will be cast off to live alone. > Coby had it coming. Coby was doing so well for so long, and I really thought he would go farther than he did. In today's interviews, he confirmed that he had pretty much snapped even before Stephenie got there. If he could have held it together for a few more days, things would have been different, but if wishes were donuts, beggars would feast, or something like that. The "survive alone" tidbit offers much room for speculation. One assumes this happens at a reward challenge, as otherwise the "loser" would presumably be alone on a desert isle -- and still in the game -- while the rest of the tribe was at TC voting someone off. Of course, even if it happens at RC, the loser might be stranded for only one day, but maybe it would be for more -- in which case the scenario above would come true. Punished by not being able to politic or vote, saved by not being subject to vote -- this is just the sort of warped result that EPMB seems to have a predilection for. Who it would be is anybody's guess. Janu is an odds-on favorite, but she seems to be able to pull herself together for challenges, and there can always be a bit of luck involved. Ken Miller Cesternino School of Survival Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 06:41:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3GBfN0m006191 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:41:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:41:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F0EB41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 7:41:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 712884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 07:41:22 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3GBfLFE009699 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 07:41:21 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.63]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050416114121.TBMU2549.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 07:41:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.63]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050416114121.RPNJ1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 07:41:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4260F9DE.1080406@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:41:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050415070061a09e86@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >(I think TIK would take out Caryn before Jen if Gregg won immunity, as they > > I can't even remember who Caryn is. I need to get to know these people better. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 16:11:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3GLB70m011094 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:11:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:11:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EF74F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:01:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 732344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:01:07 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3GL16s2027201 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:01:06 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3GL157M001093 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:01:06 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3GL0R5H025126 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:00:28 -0400 Message-ID: <007701c542c7$520128e0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: ANYone, not EVERYone... Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:00:27 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ... So the kids and I got back from go-carts, and other fun stuff at the ocean, and clamcakes, and soda... and we found Terry there, back from GScout fire-making (she's good). Ed crashed for a nap, and Lil stayed in with him and watch some TV... I went downstairs and took a bunch of old shaving cream, et al, cans out to a stump,and went and took the noisy Cricket (a .22 caliber children's rifle) out of the safe for a few shots, thinking Eddie might want to test his 3 1/2 year old shooting skills (if the young get to experience what a real firearm does to things ("It's like a rock thrown really fast", I tell them), they're less likely to make the mistake of pointing it at someone for fun, or by accident). So Ter decided to take a few shots also. After I stacked up 5 cans diagonally on the stump, I told her to go for the one on the right; it was farthest back. She questioned, and I told her to just go for any can... went the cricket... and all of the darned cans went down. Huh!? I said ANYone... not EVERYone... ;-) She laughed her arse off, and *I* went down to set them back up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 18:07:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3GN7V0m027966 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:07:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:07:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0F674@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:07:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 737295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:07:30 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3GN7U26004546 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:07:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.36]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050416230729.VSYY18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:07:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:07:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: How Quiet Y'all Are Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been doing all kinds of stuff today and expected to log on to a delightful backlog of list mail. But not a smidgen did I find. Are cats rampantly grabbing tongues? This morning I watched a little bit of a bike race that was taking place not far from where I live, thinking I might see some Old-Timers there from my bike-racing days. Didn't, though. This afternoon I went to a Democratic Party party at a blues place and found it interesting and fun. Then I decided on a whim that I should buy a grill and cook a hunk of dead cow in my yard since this is the kind of day that the smell of charcoal would be perfect. But I discovered something interesting: the grills that used to be everywhere -- like in Walmart, Fred's, even ordinary grocery stores -- apparently no longer exist. I'm talking about the simple grills that are not down on the ground -- they're at arm level -- and they're very inexpensive. You put the charcoal in and let it burn for a while, then put the grill on top of the charcoal and put the dead cow on the grill. They used to cost around $10. I couldn't find one anywhere I looked today -- though I will admit that I did not make it a major thing -- that I did not look for hours or anything like that. All I found were expensive grills with tops. The kind I'm talking about didn't have tops (as in lids that you flop down). What has become of the old-fashioned, simple, cheap grill? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 18:09:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3GN9i0m028180 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:09:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:09:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F0F63F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:09:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 737353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:09:44 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3GN9iAN004816 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:09:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.36]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050416230943.VTLN18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:09:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42619B35.7040209@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:09:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ANYone, not EVERYone... References: <007701c542c7$520128e0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> In-Reply-To: <007701c542c7$520128e0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU YaY! I just found this list mail from today! And congratulations, Terry! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 20:28:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3H1SJWm007330 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:28:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:28:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005EFAA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:28:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 741382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:28:19 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3H1SJVw015453 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:28:19 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 9AF8CBE8BF; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B97DC2849 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:28:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Hacking the Papal Election Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I haven't read this, I just laff at the idea: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/04/hacking_the_pap.html Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 20:33:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3H1WtWm007858 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:32:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:33:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F0F878@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:32:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 741559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:32:54 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3H1WsFu015834 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:32:54 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id C9CEABE8BF; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A71C2849 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:32:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Bill Clinton Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU greets audience members: http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2004/10/emcheap_shot_of.html Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 20:41:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3H1fbWm008799 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:41:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:41:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EF924@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:41:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 742063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:41:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3H1fbwG016565 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:41:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1145600wri for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.32 with SMTP id e32mr2128729wre; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:41:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Tn70LzdNrV5s9EVajNb5hZ2x8eMK/dVxRP+8GI0KOeUx/NQd7Mo70TV1mDYdSteAQPndIFIRevfiOAGpokixzI/Qki6U2yODZOvCLVVTylLCudyhh0DC/h2evv5yOKYZCvsVSvpSk+3o1rocvUyOcFsArTvtjMlsqWw06eiIGPg= Message-ID: <83db447a05041618416f44af93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:41:36 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3H1fbWm008799 On 4/16/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I've been doing all kinds of stuff today and expected to log on to a > delightful backlog of list mail. But not a smidgen did I find. We made a run to the transfer station/recycling center this morning, then over to Ted and Kathy's to do the cat-sitting chores (including medicating two of the three), then into the village for the papers and a stop at Milagro for coffee. We came home, put on our hiking boots, and walked the trail around Lower Hadlock. The Ent survived the winter. Then back here mid afternoon. Processed and sent off a new picture of me for inclusion in the high-school reunion volume. Made pizza tonight and watched Rocky Horror. My sinuses have been bugging me today, so it will be an early evening. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 21:09:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3H29HWm011278 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:09:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:09:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EF984@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:09:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 743110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:09:17 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3H29GHu018792 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:09:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.76]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050417020916.KPSC1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:09:16 -0400 Message-ID: <4261C549.5030007@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:09:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bill Clinton References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: >greets audience members: > >http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2004/10/emcheap_shot_of.html > > The picture reminds me of a picture I found odd in this week's Newsweek -- a picture of what appeared to be Dubya kissing Laura in the middle of the pope's funeral. Did any of you see it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 23:16:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3H4GBWm026145 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:16:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:16:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005EFDB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 0:16:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 753486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:15:55 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3H4FsOu031358 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:15:55 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E6A12A8ECB007 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:15:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c54304$1f822440$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4261C549.5030007@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Bill Clinton Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:15:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Bill Clinton > Ann Borkin wrote: > >>greets audience members: >> >>http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2004/10/emcheap_shot_of.html >> >> > The picture reminds me of a picture I found odd in this week's Newsweek > -- a picture of what appeared to be Dubya kissing Laura in the middle of > the pope's funeral. Did any of you see it? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I saw it last night while leafing thru the magazine and was dumbfounded. It seemed so out of context I thought sure there would be some comment or explanation. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 16 23:39:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3H4dZWm028530 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:39:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:39:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F0FE8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 0:39:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 754098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:39:35 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3H4dYur000504 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:39:34 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 18B86E3684F8 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:36:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001501c54306$f12d9bd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Age Gauge Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:35:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3H4dZWm028530 Subject: Age Gauge Go to: http://www.frontiernet.net/~cdm/age1.html Put your birth date in the pop up window From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 04:46:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3H9kUWm000090 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 04:46:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 04:46:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F022D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 5:36:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 761325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 05:36:30 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3H9aPGc026939 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 05:36:27 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3H9aOTp000736 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:36:24 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3H9aMVc000734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:36:22 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:36:22 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hacking the Papal Election Message-ID: <20050417093622.GA616@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 06:28:16PM -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: = I haven't read this, I just laff at the idea: = = http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/04/hacking_the_pap.html = Schneier just thinks that way. And then he goes on to explain in great detail why it's not possible. But, by not following the link, you missed the link to the fashion priest with a thing for birettas. http://dappledphotos.blogspot.com/2005/01/biretta-sightings.html and chasubles http://dappledphotos.blogspot.com/2005/03/fiddleback-chasuble-sightings.html Which has the only legitimate use of the phrase, "And the Primate's mitre is enormous" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 06:40:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HBeaWm012608 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:40:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 06:40:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F102B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 7:40:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:40:36 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HBeZxs025646 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:40:35 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j3HBeZUr016159 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:40:35 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200504171140.j3HBeZUr016159@sm.luth.se> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Vanity conferences Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:40:34 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/scigen/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 07:25:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HCPQWm017420 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:25:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:25:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F10454@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 8:25:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:25:26 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HCPPw4028799 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:25:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.145.210]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050417122525.FSNJ2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:25:25 -0400 Message-ID: <426255B2.8080900@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:25:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bill Clinton References: <4261C549.5030007@maynor.net> <000a01c54304$1f822440$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000a01c54304$1f822440$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >> The picture reminds me of a picture I found odd in this week's Newsweek >> -- a picture of what appeared to be Dubya kissing Laura in the middle of >> the pope's funeral. Did any of you see it? > > I saw it last night while leafing thru the magazine > and was dumbfounded. It seemed so out of > context I thought sure there would be some > comment or explanation. I'm glad you saw it and had the same reaction I did. I also looked for an explanatory comment but didn't see anything. Then I looked back at the picture thinking maybe I had misconstrued the scene and that he was whispering something to her. But it certainly appeared to a picture of kissing, not of whispering. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 07:27:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HCReWm017698 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:27:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:27:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1049D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 8:27:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:27:39 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HCRdU6029123 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:27:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.145.210]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050417122739.FTDG2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:27:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42625637.6040206@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:27:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Age Gauge References: <001501c54306$f12d9bd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <001501c54306$f12d9bd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > http://www.frontiernet.net/~cdm/age1.html > > Bleep -- we've done this before. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) * *2 years old when the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 07:36:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HCaiWm018629 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:36:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:36:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F105EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 8:36:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:36:43 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HCahXd030356 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:36:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.145.210]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050417123642.FVMC2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:36:42 -0400 Message-ID: <42625857.7000709@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:36:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Consider Giving to Lulu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is the first I've heard of this fund-raising effort, but I like it: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050417/COL0408/504170336/1201 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 08:10:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HDAJWm022653 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:10:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:10:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F107D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 9:10:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HDAJKq000462 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:10:19 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-113.gwi.net [216.195.164.113]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3HDAD0o028738; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:10:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050417085238.01c06e00@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:53:42 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Bill Clinton In-Reply-To: <426255B2.8080900@maynor.net> References: <4261C549.5030007@maynor.net> <000a01c54304$1f822440$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426255B2.8080900@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:25 AM 4/17/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Doris Markland wrote: > >>>The picture reminds me of a picture I found odd in this week's Newsweek >>>-- a picture of what appeared to be Dubya kissing Laura in the middle of >>>the pope's funeral. Did any of you see it? >> >>I saw it last night while leafing thru the magazine >>and was dumbfounded. It seemed so out of >>context I thought sure there would be some >>comment or explanation. > >I'm glad you saw it and had the same reaction I did. I also looked for >an explanatory comment but didn't see anything. The logical explanation is that they find something erotic in deaths and funerals. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 09:12:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HECVWm030516 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:12:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:12:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F0899@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 10:12:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:12:31 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3HE2Uap004660 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:02:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 66908 invoked by uid 1003); 17 Apr 2005 14:02:29 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:02:29 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hacking the Papal Election Message-ID: <20050417140229.GA62110@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 06:28:16PM -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > I haven't read this, I just laff at the idea: > > http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/04/hacking_the_pap.html The first observation is that the system is entirely manual, making it immune to the sorts of technological attacks that make modern voting systems so risky. The second observation is that the small group of voters -- all of whom know each other -- makes it impossible for an outsider to affect the voting in any way. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 09:26:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HEQKWm032228 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:26:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:26:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F10A79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 10:26:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:26:19 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3HEGIId006056 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:16:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 82190 invoked by uid 1003); 17 Apr 2005 14:16:18 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:16:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hacking the Papal Election Message-ID: <20050417141618.GB62110@words-l.org> References: <20050417093622.GA616@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050417093622.GA616@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 11:36:22AM +0200, steph wrote: > and chasubles > http://dappledphotos.blogspot.com/2005/03/fiddleback-chasuble-sightings.html http://photos1.blogger.com/img/7/1435/640/040106cividale08a.jpg Can you believe the cheapass poinsettias--or whatever they are-- in a church like that? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 09:31:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HEVKWm000028 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:31:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:31:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F10B02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 10:31:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:31:16 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3HELFQR006686 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:21:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 84721 invoked by uid 1003); 17 Apr 2005 14:21:15 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:21:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Age Gauge Message-ID: <20050417142115.GC62110@words-l.org> References: <001501c54306$f12d9bd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42625637.6040206@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42625637.6040206@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 07:27:35AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > * *2 years old when the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima So all "historic events" are like that ... what an interesting database From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 10:09:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HF9IWm005240 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:09:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:09:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F0B79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 10:49:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:49:16 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3HEdFRN008907 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:39:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 93507 invoked by uid 1003); 17 Apr 2005 14:39:15 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: URLs Message-ID: <20050417143915.GA87573@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 8 URLs were posted over the last 16 posts. Now, posted URLs ARE more interesting than this kind of conversation: Person A: Tomorrow, I am going to do . Person B: YaY! You go boy/girl! Kick REAR! Have a great time! Yet, they are proof that everyone is bored out of their minds. Maybe everyone should take a break and go out or something. I am planning on going to the library to check if they have the Da Vinci Code, if it stops drizzling. Then I think I will have breakfast at the diner and read the Sun Times. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 10:09:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HF9IWm005239 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:09:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:09:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F0D04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 10:57:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:57:55 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HEvtOW011398; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:57:55 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 51744149; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:57:54 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050417075744.0264b1c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:58:07 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: URLs In-Reply-To: <20050417143915.GA87573@words-l.org> References: <20050417143915.GA87573@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:39 AM 4/17/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >I am planning on going to the library to check if they have >the Da Vinci Code, if it stops drizzling. Then I think I will >have breakfast at the diner and read the Sun Times. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 10:13:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HFDEWm005715 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:13:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:13:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F0D97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 11:13:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:13:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HFDEml012670 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:13:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so1961008nzp for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.19 with SMTP id f19mr304677nzb; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:13:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ktoir/LwDUZU9bxWvPqPjDdCOgf2a+8ddyNhMwaSg49yFfC9VV+T8oo7+yELflDwAQ+WyDelE2e7apvFdUtgV2FH9+Z3vYItrbRfBgIqnxnoWiVd8cyf85jOP0MiUT1Yr2swwDHXKRh4ZWoqQoTZi02IoXtxJMB+4Lg4zvfVu10= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041708133242926c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:13:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: URLs In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050417075744.0264b1c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050417143915.GA87573@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050417075744.0264b1c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3HFDEWm005715 YaY! You go boy/girl! Kick REAR! Have a great time! On 4/17/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > At 07:39 AM 4/17/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >I am planning on going to the library to check if they have > >the Da Vinci Code, if it stops drizzling. Then I think I will > >have breakfast at the diner and read the Sun Times. > > > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 11:12:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HGCVWm012787 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:12:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F0F11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 12:02:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:02:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3HFqPC2017022 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:52:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 26525 invoked by uid 1003); 17 Apr 2005 15:52:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:52:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: URLs Message-ID: <20050417155225.GA25811@words-l.org> References: <20050417143915.GA87573@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050417075744.0264b1c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705041708133242926c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041708133242926c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thaks LOL.:) On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 10:13:13AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > YaY! You go boy/girl! Kick REAR! Have a great time! > > > On 4/17/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > > > At 07:39 AM 4/17/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > >I am planning on going to the library to check if they have > > >the Da Vinci Code, if it stops drizzling. Then I think I will > > >have breakfast at the diner and read the Sun Times. > > > > > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 15:28:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HKSDWm007098 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:28:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:28:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F14B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 16:28:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 43323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:28:13 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HKSDcG009584 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:28:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.145.192]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050417202716.GNTZ18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:27:16 -0400 Message-ID: <4262C6A0.6070101@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:27:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Love the Card! References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410155150.03213610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259B3AD.1020507@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410163542.0265f920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259C006.4010504@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410172244.02add530@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4259CD9E.5090804@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050410181611.02aff900@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050410181611.02aff900@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just found your card stuck in the midst of a pile of mail I had plopped on the coffee table either yesterday or day before. Thank you! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 15:28:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HKSMWm007116 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:28:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:28:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F13B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 16:28:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 43344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:28:22 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HKSMQ1009607 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:28:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.145.192]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050417202822.GOFM18830.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:28:22 -0400 Message-ID: <4262C6E2.9020501@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:28:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: E-Oops! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sorry -- that was intended for just one Wordsler! I screwed up. I'm moving quickly since I need to get more stuff done before going to a mayoral debate at 5 and then getting home to a visitor from Iowa who's arriving about 7. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 15:46:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HKjwWm009045 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:46:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:46:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F1525@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 16:45:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:45:57 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HKjvtJ011304 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:45:57 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 101C824274646 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:45:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c5438e$6b952280$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4262C6E2.9020501@maynor.net> Subject: Re: E-Oops! Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:45:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: E-Oops! > Sorry -- that was intended for just one Wordsler! I screwed up. I'm > moving quickly since I need to get more stuff done before going to a > mayoral debate at 5 and then getting home to a visitor from > Iowa who's arriving about 7. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) why do you have a visitor from iowa? where in iowa? does (she, he) talk funny? bless (his,her) heart - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 16:36:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3HLaYWm015636 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:36:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:36:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F16FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 17:26:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 47203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:26:33 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3HLQXu7015120 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:26:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.145.192]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050417212633.ZHBI2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:26:33 -0400 Message-ID: <4262D485.3040006@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:26:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: E-Oops! References: <4262C6E2.9020501@maynor.net> <000a01c5438e$6b952280$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000a01c5438e$6b952280$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > why do you have a visitor from iowa? Because he's coming to Jackson tonight. > where in iowa? Cedar Rapids. > does (she, he) talk funny? No. Although he's lived in Iowa for a long time now and lived in Wisconsin before that, he has managed not to let the strange sounds do bad things to his native Mississippi speech. > bless (his,her) heart He has indeed had heart problems through the years. Have any of you heard a funny sound file that's making its way around the net about somebody calling the office of a gynecologist? I'm reminded of it because it ends with "Be blessed." Something about the file bothers me, though, in that I get the feeling there are racist overtones since the speaker for some reason is speaking almost basilectal AAVE -- not really basilectal but with lots of features of AAVE. I get the impression that that is somehow supposed to make it funnier or something. It lessens it to me. But I've gotta leave now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 19:33:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3I0XfWm000864 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:33:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:33:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F17D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 20:01:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:01:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3HNpc9g027478 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:51:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 99194 invoked by uid 1003); 17 Apr 2005 23:51:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:51:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: E-Oops! Message-ID: <20050417235137.GA98131@words-l.org> References: <4262C6E2.9020501@maynor.net> <000a01c5438e$6b952280$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4262D485.3040006@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4262D485.3040006@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 04:26:29PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Have any of you heard a funny sound file that's making its way around > the net about somebody calling the office of a gynecologist? I'm > reminded of it because it ends with "Be blessed." Something about the > file bothers me, though, in that I get the feeling there are racist > overtones since the speaker for some reason is speaking almost > basilectal AAVE -- not really basilectal but with lots of features of > AAVE. A "terrific impression" you mean? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 20:47:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3I1ktWm008217 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:47:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:47:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F11DFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 21:46:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:46:54 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3I1ksR9006600 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:46:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.183.238]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050418014654.BDNZ2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:46:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42631186.9040603@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:46:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: E-Oops! References: <4262C6E2.9020501@maynor.net> <000a01c5438e$6b952280$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4262D485.3040006@maynor.net> <20050417235137.GA98131@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050417235137.GA98131@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>Have any of you heard a funny sound file that's making its way around >>the net about somebody calling the office of a gynecologist? I'm >>reminded of it because it ends with "Be blessed." Something about the >>file bothers me, though, in that I get the feeling there are racist >>overtones since the speaker for some reason is speaking almost >>basilectal AAVE -- not really basilectal but with lots of features of >>AAVE. >> >> > >A "terrific impression" you mean? > > ? Why would I mean a "terrific impression"? Meanwhile, though, I just googled and found the file online: http://scottrope.typepad.com/scott_rope/2005/04/obgyn_answering.html I'm still waiting for my friend to arrive. He didn't make it back to Brookhaven from the Coast until almost 8, so he's running late. I had fun at the mayoral debate, btw -- it was , to say the least. I'm still not sure which candidate I'm going to vote for. (They're both Democrats -- this is the primary, but whoever wins it will become mayor. The run-off against the Republican will be only a formality.) I met an interesting Belgian woman at the debate who is insisting that I join Alliance Francaise de Jackson. That might be fun actually. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 17 21:42:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3I2g8Wm013579 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:42:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:42:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F18E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 17 Apr 2005 22:42:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:42:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3I2W7NH011687 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:32:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 88346 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Apr 2005 02:32:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:32:06 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: E-Oops! Message-ID: <20050418023206.GA82185@words-l.org> References: <4262C6E2.9020501@maynor.net> <000a01c5438e$6b952280$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4262D485.3040006@maynor.net> <20050417235137.GA98131@words-l.org> <42631186.9040603@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42631186.9040603@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 08:46:46PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>Have any of you heard a funny sound file that's making its way around > >>the net about somebody calling the office of a gynecologist? I'm > >>reminded of it because it ends with "Be blessed." Something about the > >>file bothers me, though, in that I get the feeling there are racist > >>overtones since the speaker for some reason is speaking almost > >>basilectal AAVE -- not really basilectal but with lots of features of > >>AAVE. > >> > >> > > > >A "terrific impression" you mean? > > > ? Why would I mean a "terrific impression"? Meanwhile, though, I just > googled and found the file online: > > http://scottrope.typepad.com/scott_rope/2005/04/obgyn_answering.html It sounds white with black grammar, roughly speaking. This type of thing is generally classified as a GREAT IMPRESSION, just because someone says "you was", "annural examination" or "a ". Also, "have a blessed day" is much milder that "be blessed". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 04:44:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3I9ioWm019365 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:44:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:44:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F21F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 5:44:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 83399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:44:50 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3I9imXG022564 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:44:49 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041811431211095 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:43:12 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:44:47 +0200 Message-ID: <4263818E.3060104@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:44:46 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Evelyn References: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <425EDE31.8040408@maynor.net> <945393270504142255302f0f11@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705041505597e35f0ba@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041505597e35f0ba@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2005 09:44:47.0413 (UTC) FILETIME=[42101650:01C543FB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy birthday! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 04:55:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3I9tSWm020920 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:55:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:55:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F12A85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 5:55:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 83557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:55:28 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3I9tQvs023444 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:55:27 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041811535111133 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:53:51 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:55:25 +0200 Message-ID: <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:55:25 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2005 09:55:25.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE86EBE0:01C543FC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 15.04.2005 20:57: > Alan Wild wrote: > >> Well... at least your state hasn't succumbed to the mandatory >> insurance line >> yet. Ours had a while ago, along with the argument that "If every >> everyone >> paid for insurance, then insurance rates would come down." >> >> Har! Now, everyone is paying... and the rates never even dipped. > > > I don't know what it would do to rates, but I do think that requiring it > would be a good thing. I didn't bother to do anything like get this > It is mandatory in Norway - and I would guess most of Europe. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 05:50:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IAoAWm026924 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:50:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:50:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F12B8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 6:50:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 84940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:50:10 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3IAo8hI027865 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:50:09 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041812483411351 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:48:34 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:50:08 +0200 Message-ID: <426390DF.9040603@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:50:07 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Anchors aweigh References: <20050417093622.GA616@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050417093622.GA616@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2005 10:50:08.0367 (UTC) FILETIME=[63222FF0:01C54404] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Summer season is here more or less - the migrating birds are migrating back here from Africa or wherever they have been, and the wild flowers are appearing. We celebrated by sleeping in the boat from Friday to Saturday. Then we did some repairs so I finally got the top running light to work and we went out to see if we could catch a cod or something. We didn't, but I renewed some knbowledge I have from smaller boats: if the anchor (or what is the English term for a smallish folding anchor, we call them umbrella anchors - that si we don't, we use a word "dregg" which is for something different from the term "anker" which I guess is the same as anchor in English) nor back again: if the anchor sits very well in the sea bottom (or is stuck there), one way to get it loose apart from going at it in the other direction, is to use the weight andmovement of the boat: with small boats including our boat I can always manage to drag the anchor rope in a foot or more, if necessary by dragging the side of the boat down. Then I lay the rope over the edge on the boat and hold it tight while the boat corrects itself. Waves are a good help here, and if there are none we can always move about in the boat and get the same effect. In this way I guess I dragged the boat sideways for 10 meters or so until the anchor rope was almost straight down, and then when the boat rolled the anchor came loose as it should. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 06:23:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IBNgWm030526 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:23:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:23:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F12BDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 7:23:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:23:42 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IBNfSw022867 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:23:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B780979EF for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:23:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25879-09 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:23:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0ED69772E for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:23:39 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <426398BC.5020601@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:23:40 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Evelyn References: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <425EDE31.8040408@maynor.net> <945393270504142255302f0f11@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705041505597e35f0ba@mail.gmail.com> <4263818E.3060104@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4263818E.3060104@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.326 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > Happy birthday! Yes! And many more! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 06:29:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IBTEWm031013 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:29:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:29:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F12B9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 7:29:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:29:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IBTD8x023263 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:29:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so359282nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.31.10 with SMTP id e10mr362959nze; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:29:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HA/tR2QClNPQmHOQkeq1x08JdNDxZ7kvq2FX2nAcd/6EsvMQl+ZTdOsnMkUMxq1vXhtX+hLw+narV1W0AIHLB8lA9xfeQyz2arfZKt9vBkQaNhqrt7tx6j8OmJubOta54YmkzUIrlh5R6ivMpySyl0TcRRLCeo3jBoqE/3UmClc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041804297942acfd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:29:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Evelyn In-Reply-To: <426398BC.5020601@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <9453932705041414151f81e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <425EDE31.8040408@maynor.net> <945393270504142255302f0f11@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705041505597e35f0ba@mail.gmail.com> <4263818E.3060104@gmail.com> <426398BC.5020601@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IBTEWm031013 >From me, too. On 4/18/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > Espen S. Ore wrote: > > > Happy birthday! > > Yes! And many more! > > Kristin > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 06:34:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IBYOWm031557 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:34:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:34:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F12C15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 7:34:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 86285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:34:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IBYOpi023795 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:34:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2156565nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.19 with SMTP id j19mr363740nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:34:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GagZqGDoPW53XjBpKL1qCzXSQtKA59f7QLrv6z4twroJ3UX83VOaq6qM+uvHh8qoCSPjWJHEMADh+AllsTQH9JJeh+jSAzR0/iLa8To4tRSUl9jypdzHy9ipa9nRF9W0wvUne8xvZHQexuGaqny3yHZz+/CBbXN9tlFgS2ukGvc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:34:23 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IBYOWm031557 On 4/18/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > Natalie Maynor skrev 15.04.2005 20:57: > > > Alan Wild wrote: > > > >> Well... at least your state hasn't succumbed to the mandatory > >> insurance line > >> yet. Ours had a while ago, along with the argument that "If every > >> everyone > >> paid for insurance, then insurance rates would come down." > >> > >> Har! Now, everyone is paying... and the rates never even dipped. > > > > > > I don't know what it would do to rates, but I do think that requiring it > > would be a good thing. I didn't bother to do anything like get this > > > It is mandatory in Norway - and I would guess most of Europe. It's required in most US states--I didn't realize that there were states where it wasn't required until Natalie mentioned it. However, even in states where it's required, like Texas, not all drivers actually have insurance. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 06:40:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IBdtWm032038 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:39:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:40:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F12C27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 7:39:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 86454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:39:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IBdsCn024316 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:39:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2157925nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr363835nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:39:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ib64IuCPhpu5zCw3J9tjt5smFfFv7Gf0Y6exnz14jjlUjEDessJt8N5Aa2FnY3UpyE1NffI96yCVpHBqwZjzoiHofKO9upkz1402jiE82LaNug6yZjzBD8rptnRwzPMRhixlG8i6AZAyS2U6xNthmrMlVIvDRIAN2Ip30h7QA9g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050418043959f5dbfc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:39:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Weird Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IBdtWm032038 I started listening to "Angels and Demons" by Dan Brown this weekend. It's a very long book, and formulaic as all his books are. I didn't realize when I started listening to it that it's about a papal conclave--it's giving me a weird sense of deja vu and insiderliness. One interesting thing that he keeps saying is that all recent papal decisions have been a lock before the conclave, so the conclave itself has merely been pro forma, rather than a real conclave. I have no idea whether this is true or not, of course. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 06:53:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IBqoWm000558 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:52:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:52:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F12C68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 7:52:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:52:49 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3IBqm4M025923 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:52:49 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041813511111965 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:51:12 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:52:45 +0200 Message-ID: <42639F8C.9020903@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:52:44 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2005 11:52:45.0496 (UTC) FILETIME=[228E9380:01C5440D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 18.04.2005 13:34: >On 4/18/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > >>Natalie Maynor skrev 15.04.2005 20:57: >> >> >> >>>Alan Wild wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Well... at least your state hasn't succumbed to the mandatory >>>>insurance line >>>>yet. Ours had a while ago, along with the argument that "If every >>>>everyone >>>>paid for insurance, then insurance rates would come down." >>>> >>>>Har! Now, everyone is paying... and the rates never even dipped. >>>> >>>> >>>I don't know what it would do to rates, but I do think that requiring it >>>would be a good thing. I didn't bother to do anything like get this >>> >>> >>> >>It is mandatory in Norway - and I would guess most of Europe. >> >> > > >It's required in most US states--I didn't realize that there were states >where it wasn't required until Natalie mentioned it. However, even in states >where it's required, like Texas, not all drivers actually have insurance. > > In Norway they cut away the number tags from cars without insurance. And they do have people on the lookout every autumn. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 07:00:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IC0AWm001252 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:00:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:00:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2320@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 8:00:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:00:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IC09aF026589 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:00:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so365419nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.20 with SMTP id a20mr142695nzc; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:00:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XOKJrXvFVXNO8wkE5C+1oh+uKc8bqRtxh5qWfn68H0waJsmj/rqmgktwE5K8xSEq255nMHc1dX22bAIGjwnP+AkGdG6SnzmMNmJ8EZgpelkcYVRjQp8wOMq/WLCEl4p2sMwoxhGCT9kmbAI8i+iYveGUvPNkmPZNvNJ6/BpSOP0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041805006640f7c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:00:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Fitting nomenclature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IC0AWm001252 http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/04/14/bush.beetle.ap/index.html "Not just anybody can say he has a slime-mold beetle named in his honor." -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 07:22:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ICLmWm003934 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:21:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:22:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F24EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 8:03:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:03:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IC3pbv027032 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:03:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2164024nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.3 with SMTP id h3mr365529nzh; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:03:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=UnZMveJTrrfIu01uTmMfVGUVZFVDZlh/K7P6oVK+xuxkHPc2Oel9Q1N92DaQuw2uSan/VXpHqaA4Y892ilNFL/UhuJTNnClPZfRfLEukVwfnQIJNMv4Q1Sn31QzCJcsYNdkm6f+CYKEOqZZW2qCg0newowHk6ML2HNi2Dg3uuOc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050418050337020380@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:03:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Headlines Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ICLmWm003934 When you see the headline "Most labs destroyed killer flu virus", how do you feel? (It makes me uneasy. All it takes is one.) -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 07:22:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ICLmWm003931 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:21:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:22:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F24E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 8:01:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:01:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IC1hqL026811 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:01:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2163528nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr365339nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:01:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=P1ZJ90ovivvEADe/D77Xm8oyfJRYBMNea87ikJTWwKtep4R/TUpzrYUmajnfLl4dDCpvtmDmOqKvwm3InThbuzhy973cFdXHCEd9HWczW/Xkn3SKXyRJLId6YOoJlG80AWZTV49Pc/tcoMmkZydsy7tGiysuYz05l7g+7NkJn3o= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041805012a6bed3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:01:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <42639F8C.9020903@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <42639F8C.9020903@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ICLmWm003931 On 4/18/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > A Friend of Andy skrev 18.04.2005 13:34: > > >On 4/18/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > > > > >>Natalie Maynor skrev 15.04.2005 20:57: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Alan Wild wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Well... at least your state hasn't succumbed to the mandatory > >>>>insurance line > >>>>yet. Ours had a while ago, along with the argument that "If every > >>>>everyone > >>>>paid for insurance, then insurance rates would come down." > >>>> > >>>>Har! Now, everyone is paying... and the rates never even dipped. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I don't know what it would do to rates, but I do think that requiring > it > >>>would be a good thing. I didn't bother to do anything like get this > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>It is mandatory in Norway - and I would guess most of Europe. > >> > >> > > > > > >It's required in most US states--I didn't realize that there were states > >where it wasn't required until Natalie mentioned it. However, even in > states > >where it's required, like Texas, not all drivers actually have insurance. > > > > > In Norway they cut away the number tags from cars without insurance. And > they do have people on the lookout every autumn. > I cannot defend the system we have. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 07:22:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ICLmWm003932 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:21:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:22:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F2441@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 8:13:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:13:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ICDFXR027977 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:13:15 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1437266wri for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.16.7 with SMTP id 7mr3134864wrp; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:13:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=X6u6YslYY3tMAF0mno/nyj5TkeiXed58xHwHduR31KGbFS61NmCR5aQKVimiBdTI1jiUFyTX0leTcjyxTehqy9Pa5caWDG2YDwO5McJzIIncaO8cX9o0xrbbAeABaHGEkgSamV2uKfzXZwvjGOS66MVJq+CG2fK/L7xwhItjYwA= Message-ID: <83db447a05041805133f22c038@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:13:15 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Anchors aweigh In-Reply-To: <426390DF.9040603@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050417093622.GA616@yoccoz.multinix.com> <426390DF.9040603@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ICLmWm003932 On 4/18/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > Summer season is here more or less - the migrating birds are migrating > back here from Africa or wherever they have been, and the wild flowers > are appearing. I'll be interested to see the progression of spring as we move up/down the west coast. We didn't, but I renewed some knbowledge I have from smaller > boats: if the anchor (or what is the English term for a smallish folding > anchor, we call them umbrella anchors - that si we don't, we use a word > "dregg" which is for something different from the term "anker" which I > guess is the same as anchor in English) nor back again: Anchor is the generic English term---most people in boating then add another word (kedge, Danforth, etc.) to identify which anchor they are using/talking about. The one here that looks like an upended, open umbrella is usually called a "mushroom" anchor. The Danforth is a folding type, i.e., when it is not in use, the two long, pointed flukes lie in the same plane as the body/shaft of the anchor; when deployed, the fluke point in the same direction. The Danforth probably is the most popular among small boaters---it does a good job in both rocky and mud/sand bottoms whereas the mushroom is basically a "mud" anchor. I think that most large vessels use a massive Danforth-type anchor that isn't quite as collapsible. The kedge (the old classic anchor with the big, curved flukes) seems pretty much to have evolved into a lawn, restaurant, and inn decoration. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 07:23:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ICNVWm004143 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:23:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:23:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F2530@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 8:23:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 88571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:23:31 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ICNV61029639 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:23:31 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1439616wri for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.1 with SMTP id z1mr2832181wrz; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:23:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PN/1GPshRTvE2729nJPpYDa41HlFROIhx86ceYP8Mht0qqVLIYCQ1JK2OxuOfieBpI03Oi5C9QRPm1R3WbmTLQR/9dmjtbP3D9RcZvmvyuE44knhRTpXiQ29eZRqqjDPx4Jux7hi47xdSajKvhBv+goEXbivjG6xjJH8WH9a32E= Message-ID: <83db447a0504180523185ccdbf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:23:20 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fitting nomenclature In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041805006640f7c6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705041805006640f7c6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ICNVWm004143 On 4/18/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/04/14/bush.beetle.ap/index.html > > "Not just anybody can say he has a slime-mold beetle named in his honor." > -- I'm surprised that the ICZN is accepting these---the general rule is that the specific epithet be descriptive, not honorific. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 07:24:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ICO0Wm004188 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:24:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:24:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F236E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 8:23:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 88583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:23:59 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ICNxer029669 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:23:59 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B695CA8CD3270 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:23:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002001c54411$73e61b00$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a7050418043959f5dbfc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Weird Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:23:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:39 AM Subject: Weird I started listening to "Angels and Demons" by Dan Brown this weekend. It's a very long book, and formulaic as all his books are. I didn't realize when I started listening to it that it's about a papal conclave--it's giving me a weird sense of deja vu and insiderliness. One interesting thing that he keeps saying is that all recent papal decisions have been a lock before the conclave, so the conclave itself has merely been pro forma, rather than a real conclave. I have no idea whether this is true or not, of course. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy It's downright dangerous for me to go online before I've had my coffee . . I was reading this as Paypal conclave and Paypal decisions. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 07:43:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IChNWm006010 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:43:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:43:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F24B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 8:43:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 89738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:43:23 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3IChM8W000320 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:43:22 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041814414712609 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:41:47 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:43:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4263AB68.5090506@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:43:20 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fitting nomenclature References: <8ddfc8a705041805006640f7c6@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0504180523185ccdbf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a0504180523185ccdbf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2005 12:43:21.0336 (UTC) FILETIME=[340EFF80:01C54414] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander skrev 18.04.2005 14:23: >On 4/18/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/04/14/bush.beetle.ap/index.html >> >>"Not just anybody can say he has a slime-mold beetle named in his honor." >>-- >> >> > > I'm surprised that the ICZN is accepting these---the general rule is that >the specific epithet be descriptive, not honorific. > cwv > > > And I am surprised if they will decline Latin names following the first declension in this way: "According to the International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature, the first word of a new species is its genus; the second word must end in "i" if it's named after a person;". This is extremelt silly as an explanation to me. The general idea is that it should be a genitive - OK, they may have decided that names ending in consonants are given a genitive like that, but names ending in -a? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 08:10:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ID9nWm009299 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:10:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:10:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F2637@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 9:09:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 92286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:09:45 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ID9jbG006321 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:09:45 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1450912wri for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.41 with SMTP id 41mr365275wrw; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:09:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=U/Op3gO6zZgD7H1GeQnhJQjVIRWmzjClYe1AnoIV0rxKd9cR6UCzH/u5h2Pm+HRAHZNQvH+K69fky987EWBZVuMJm32PHdytFM4tviTEfIzItPky2nBUWmgjLSfNPDfHkZ8LeI3BLUqISX8IE3H16xHExgQMGV/Dz8JbRhGVAQs= Message-ID: <83db447a05041806091b16be58@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:09:44 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <002001c54411$73e61b00$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050418043959f5dbfc@mail.gmail.com> <002001c54411$73e61b00$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ID9nWm009299 On 4/18/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:39 AM > Subject: Weird > > > One interesting thing that he keeps saying is that all recent papal > decisions have been a lock before the conclave, so the conclave itself has > merely been pro forma, rather than a real conclave. I have no idea whether > this is true or not, of course. > -- > It's downright dangerous for me to go online > before I've had my coffee . . > > I was reading this as Paypal conclave and Paypal > decisions. There is probably more symmetry there than you think... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 09:56:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IEulWm020428 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:56:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:56:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2775@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:56:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 101792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:56:47 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IEujs0028093 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:56:46 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16638293 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:09:55 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:57:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:56:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1758487781.20050418085643@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57020, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/15/2005, 12:40 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I should've had an umbrella and Bible with me a little while ago when a NM> woman backed her fat van into the side of my car, doing what I would NM> estimate to be well over $500 worth of damage. I asked her if she had NM> insurance, and she said no -- that she couldn't afford it -- that she NM> had it on her other car but not this car. Neat, huh -- somebody who can NM> afford two cars can't afford insurance. She did say "I'm so sorry I ran NM> into your car." Hope you filed an accident report on the incident and got the info from her so your insurance company will pay. And I'd also report her for driving without insurance, assuming it is required by MS law. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 09:58:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IEw8Wm020492 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:58:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:58:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F293D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:58:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 101843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:58:08 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IEvvkg028292 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:57:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16849942 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:21:21 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:58:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:57:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1424684525.20050418085755@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 167, in=58749, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/15/2005, 12:47 PM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> Well... at least your state hasn't succumbed to the mandatory insurance line AW> yet. Ours had a while ago, along with the argument that "If every everyone AW> paid for insurance, then insurance rates would come down." AW> Har! Now, everyone is paying... and the rates never even dipped. Well, they may have gone up less quickly. It is mandatory in Idaho and most other places I've lived....but that doesn't mean everyone does it, any more than the always drive the speed limit or carefully. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:11:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFB3Wm021942 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:11:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:11:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F2897@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:02:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:02:01 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IF204E029144 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:02:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16764202 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:09:13 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:02:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:01:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1625092557.20050418090158@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <42603F2E.20009@maynor.net> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <83db447a050415120967612705@mail.gmail.com> <42603F2E.20009@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=69395, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/15/2005, 4:24 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I don't think any of it NM> would be paid for anyway since the damage is probably less than $1,000, NM> and I'm pretty sure that's my deductible. If it is less than a grand, it must be VERY minor. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:11:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFB3Wm021941 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:11:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:11:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F28A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:03:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:03:09 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IF38aF029375 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:03:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16639401 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:16:18 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:03:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:03:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1579333057.20050418090306@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <4260409D.2020509@maynor.net> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <83db447a050415120967612705@mail.gmail.com> <00e201c54201$f79b7c90$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <4260409D.2020509@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57025, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/15/2005, 4:30 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> and I've NM> sometimes gotten the feeling that very little matters in that respect -- NM> that they don't much care about anything except maybe the mileage (and, NM> of course, what kind of car it is). Unless you don't sell or trade it until it is "a beater", the cosmetic does matter. No respectable dealer is going to sell a car with a bashed in side. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:11:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFB3Wm021939 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:11:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:11:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2791@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:01:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:01:02 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IF11OW028972 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:01:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16850575 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:24:25 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:01:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:00:59 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13210570768.20050418090059@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <42603DFA.5000707@maynor.net> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <426010A3.50200@bc.edu> <42603DFA.5000707@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 167, in=58753, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/15/2005, 4:19 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> But she IS going to pay for the damage to your car, isn't she? NM> No. If she can't afford insurance, she can't afford to pay for the damage. Bullshit. Some people just don't get it, whether they can afford it or not. Or if it isn't mandatory, they consider themselves self-insured. And just because she "can't afford it" doesn't mean she can't pay for your repair. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:11:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFB3Wm021940 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:11:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:11:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F27AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:06:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:06:33 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IF6WAr029923 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:06:32 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16639855 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:19:42 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:06:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:06:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57029, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/16/2005, 5:07 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I've been doing all kinds of stuff today and expected to log on to a NM> delightful backlog of list mail. But not a smidgen did I find. Are NM> cats rampantly grabbing tongues? I was internet deprived in Hinckley Minnesota. Well, could have paid for dialup, but wasn't interested that much. And didn't have that much time. And could have paid my ten bucks for wireless in MSP while waiting for a plane for four hours, but since knew would be home a few hours later, didn't spend that either. I survived for 72 hours of net deprivation. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:14:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFEdWm022312 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:14:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:14:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F28EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:14:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 103323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:14:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFEch5031258 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:14:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so34440nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr384126nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:14:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DFxzMltc7KBvA9iKJZf6jF5nZiRb0EXG54d6ZuokaZu5c6pw9Dr9TiIF3Q4J9OQRJV+gSoOIHvMBn4wWo8CrXG7AjQPAxY2GLqTllw7s8zJil4gmABAz2+knXY9TiEeTg6OvpMBph/WG7wjDKaVsUmAp+pOc1ThP5sQ/3hp4v24= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504180814264a58dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:14:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IFEdWm022312 On 4/18/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > I survived for 72 hours of net > deprivation. > It's a t-shirt! -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:17:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFH4Wm022606 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:17:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:17:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2802@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:17:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 103525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:17:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFH3r7031551 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:17:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1755804wra for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.48 with SMTP id v48mr2396937wrv; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:17:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FB/C1VFZboYHjhXqokGMoi8HW8yjnGWk0/SiDYM597+rpjJeZaezgBVKplQbFpte34BcaP/oc7THQu31rUQED0B5x/yNFAye7hBqhP728ETF8tNKLnb2k9EjbVzle32L7zQRnZAlUqjkGpCX45XxJLAWfjo4+QMsH8tEkW6yQw0= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:17:00 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IFH4Wm022606 > > I survived for 72 hours of net deprivation. > dan > Only to return to us to stir up trouble about Natalie's car accident. Could you please just leave it alone when she responds to you with the usual: "I would rather just pay the money and get my car fixed then deal with a police report, my insurance company, and this wretched woman who doesn't have the consideration to carry insurance." or maybe it will be "Here is Mississippi we don't involve lawyers or police. We just take care of our car repairs. I know a man, who is so good that he doesn't need to advertise, who will pound out that dent in nothing flat." Whatever it is, don't argue, Dan. You can't win. You can't even break even. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:24:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFOYWm023276 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:24:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:24:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F293D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:24:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:24:34 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFOVdK000518 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:24:31 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F133C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:24:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200504181524.j3IFOVdK000518@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:24:31 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:07:27 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I've been doing all kinds of stuff today and expected to log on to a >delightful backlog of list mail. But not a smidgen did I find. Are >cats rampantly grabbing tongues? > >This morning I watched a little bit of a bike race that was taking place >not far from where I live, thinking I might see some Old-Timers there >from my bike-racing days. Natalie, when you come up for FingerFest, you might want to visit this: Glenn Curtis Museum (one-time "fastest man on earth") http://www.linkny.com/~curtiss/ Before he raced motorcycles, designed planes w/ AG Bell, included one of the first women aviators in his flying team, and patented the "travel trailer" (precursor of the RV), he used to race bicycles with V's grandfather, and the museum includes a "Glen Curtis bicycle shop". Now that's Old-timers. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:33:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFXLWm024024 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:33:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:33:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2888@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 105339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:21 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFXLZl002815 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:21 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F13482@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200504181533.j3IFXLZl002815@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:21 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: URLs To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:58:07 -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: >At 07:39 AM 4/17/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >>I am planning on going to the library to check if they have >>the Da Vinci Code, if it stops drizzling. Then I think I will >>have breakfast at the diner and read the Sun Times. > > > Well, I did something entirely out of character - I spent Sunday morning dusting and mopping floors. It's spring. Then I did something entirely in-character: I went to a friend's house for a cookout with conversation in three languages - English, Spanish, and German - and talking about everything from bird identification and what the 60's was REALLY like to the nature of disciplinary methodology under postmodern conditions and the social dynamics of (Rita C, forgive me!) B&N writers' groups - in short, 5 hours of phatic drivel! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:35:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFYuWm024183 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:35:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:35:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F2990@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:34:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:34:56 -0400 Received: from hermes.boisestate.edu (hermes.boisestate.edu [132.178.236.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFOqwW000607 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:24:55 -0400 Received: from BSUPRIM-MTA by hermes.boisestate.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:24:41 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.2 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:24:28 -0600 From: "Dan Lester" To: "Timothy Brown" Cc: Subject: The Papal Election Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've known the general way that this is run, but not down to this level of detail. Fascinating in its own way, and interesting with using the paten and chalices as part of it. Makes sense, but....must be pretty big chalices. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/04/hacking_the_pap.html The actual rules are at: (but you'll probably find the above more than enough) http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_jp-ii_apc_22021996_universi-dominici-gregis_en.html dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:37:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFawWm024320 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:36:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:37:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F28B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:36:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 105862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:36:58 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFawog003562 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:36:58 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F134C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:36:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200504181536.j3IFawog003562@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:36:58 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Weird To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:39:54 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I started listening to "Angels and Demons" by Dan Brown this weekend. ... > >One interesting thing that he keeps saying is that all recent papal >decisions have been a lock before the conclave, so the conclave itself has >merely been pro forma, rather than a real conclave. I have no idea whether >this is true or not, of course. I seem to remember some surprise at the way things turned out on the most recent occasion. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:42:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFgqWm024785 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:42:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:42:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F2AC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:42:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 106905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:42:48 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFgmRW005122 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:42:48 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2901@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:42:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200504181542.j3IFgmRW005122@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:42:47 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: More insurance To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My son aged out of dependent insurance this winter, so I checked with the HR office to make sure the paperwork would go through correctly for COBRA (after waiting 30 days). On Friday I got two letters: 1) at the office, from HR saying I needed to confirm my family status change that added my husband back on my insurance, 2) at home, from the insurance co, saying that my employer was dropping my insurance and I should sign up for COBRA. What do they know that I don't? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:49:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFnGWm025414 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:49:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:49:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F135C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:49:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 107795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:49:15 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFnEMS006229 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:49:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16645470 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:02:20 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:49:30 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:49:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1803607787.20050418094908@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: You better start worrying.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57067, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38306-2005Apr8.html?nav=rss_print/a1 Of course some of us may be dead by 2029.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:52:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFpwWm025658 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:51:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:52:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F1360A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:51:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 108305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:51:58 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFpvGA007278 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:51:57 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16835140 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:52:18 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:52:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:51:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1224203083.20050418095154@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hacking the Papal Election In-Reply-To: <20050417141618.GB62110@words-l.org> References: <20050417093622.GA616@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050417141618.GB62110@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 169, in=56035, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/17/2005, 8:16 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> http://photos1.blogger.com/img/7/1435/640/040106cividale08a.jpg DMH> Can you believe the cheapass poinsettias--or whatever they are-- DMH> in a church like that? What would you have instead? Also, in my experience, the altar and other flowers are donations from parishoners. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:53:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFr3Wm025836 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:53:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:53:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F2B55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:53:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 108617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:52:59 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFqwLW007594 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:52:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16771129 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:00:12 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:53:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:52:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1039927609.20050418095256@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: URLs In-Reply-To: <20050417143915.GA87573@words-l.org> References: <20050417143915.GA87573@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=69428, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/17/2005, 8:39 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> I am planning on going to the library to check if they have DMH> the Da Vinci Code, if it stops drizzling. Then I think I will DMH> have breakfast at the diner and read the Sun Times. That fits. Most restaurants wouldn't let you in with the Scum Times. But at the diner it is probably sold in a vending machine outside. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 10:57:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IFvdWm026305 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:57:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:57:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F29EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:57:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:57:38 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IFvbcd008572 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:57:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16646566 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:10:47 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:57:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:57:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57070, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/18/2005, 9:17 AM, bonniemaev wrote: b> Whatever it is, don't argue, Dan. You can't b> win. You can't even break even. Not to worry. I've got more important things to do. Like write a guy's annual evaluation, and clean my desk, and go to class, and work at the reference desk, and then go home to mow my grass if it doesn't rain. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 11:17:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IGH1Wm028899 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:17:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:17:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2AA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:17:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:17:00 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IGGoaP013713 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:16:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2659297B44 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:16:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20223-07 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:16:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1464A9723A for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:16:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:16:25 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.328 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >and then go home to mow my grass if it doesn't >rain. > I see, some people have grass to mow. Well, in North Estonia the flowers Gagea silvatica (pl.: Gageae silvaticae?) (Wald-Goldstern, close to yellow star of Bethlehem) budded overnight -- so, with have _something_. (Noticed them in a park in Tallinn on Sunday, at a place where there seemed to be nothing special on Saturday.) Otherwise, what's been haunting me since morning: Mocking Funday. It's spring out there! I do not want to work! At least not indoors, not in the office. But it's too windy out there to hold sheets of paper comfortably so that I could read them, and a bit chilly, too, for sitting quietly. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 11:19:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IGJ1Wm029055 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:19:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:19:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2AB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:19:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:19:00 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IGIx6x014105 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:19:00 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7A197B27 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:18:59 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20395-04 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:18:58 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5DE97AD4 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:18:58 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4263DDDB.3050005@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:18:35 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.33 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > so, with have _something_. baah. *we* have... Kr. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 11:56:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IGulWm000656 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:56:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:56:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F2D5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:56:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 115592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:56:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IGukoN021087 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:56:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so30749nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.20 with SMTP id a20mr173008nzc; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:56:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nz5+3omvTpxT/dCdpeS7Rj/CHZ1RpM0Q9AWSDx6mF400LbEV5wdEdt65bVup6JCeKi72WPbkLl5DNk6lywIhsX2MMEljPM0vIkKB+ak6pveAK0ua58ZjrILUWOU3+28N/5f4pnwYfHz/IF5Ca8/8QJvvgiXsKkITLaIsKXx3a0k= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041809564af78aa2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:56:44 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IGulWm000656 On 4/18/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > I see, some people have grass to mow. Well, in North Estonia the flowers > Gagea silvatica (pl.: Gageae silvaticae?) (Wald-Goldstern, close to > yellow star of Bethlehem) budded overnight -- so, with have _something_. I have bluebonnets (a native lupine), purple iris, yellow iris, red lilies, mulicolor portulaca, and lavender blooming. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 12:00:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IGxsWm001069 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:59:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:00:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F139CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:59:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 116446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:59:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IGxrhj021877 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:59:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so31726nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.5 with SMTP id l5mr396553nzc; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:59:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TryeHByoLFwGM7MWJbzDXA6i9osre0CCID6qozZypXpRX5syXX3T5ypKkL28i7xxb1KpI2U2JJoG+YMCAOUP/2SMNsiYlOdnxc5d5S1OIkFUEQmSM3zrfQuYckFNfHmQvqSOaZUSBoA2uuxFWhmcfd9YXs0dQUKd/zkhu5KuP5I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504180959732504d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:59:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <200504181536.j3IFawog003562@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504181536.j3IFawog003562@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IGxsWm001069 On 4/18/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:39:54 -0500, A Friend of Andy > wrote: > > >I started listening to "Angels and Demons" by Dan Brown this weekend. ... > > > >One interesting thing that he keeps saying is that all recent papal > >decisions have been a lock before the conclave, so the conclave itself > has > >merely been pro forma, rather than a real conclave. I have no idea > whether > >this is true or not, of course. > > I seem to remember some surprise at the way things turned out on the > most recent occasion. > Ah, but surprise by insiders or outsiders? I have no idea what the Cardinals thought. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 12:07:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IH70Wm002024 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:07:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:07:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F2D1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:06:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:06:59 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IH6xEr023433 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:06:59 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 73E27F6F0F0C3 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:06:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000701c54438$fc110b80$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041809564af78aa2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:06:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have bluebonnets (a native lupine), purple iris, yellow iris, red lilies, mulicolor portulaca, and lavender blooming. -- Karen What? No Indian paintbrush? I was just down there and the roadsides were one gorgeous display of color. The bluebonnets were in their later stage but still pretty. Lots of orange and yellows, with a little white and pink. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 12:27:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IHRYWm004046 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:27:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:27:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F2DB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:27:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:27:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IHRY6W026813 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:27:34 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:27:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:27:04 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: I wonder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU what good can come of a decision reached by 115 old men in drag locked up in a room together BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 12:37:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IHb3Wm004956 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:37:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:37:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F2EB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:37:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:37:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IHaxmw028543 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:37:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2274581nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr400425nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:36:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZPvsgdMGWWjB07iqDCQDQCOPb9BYVfnGAuYhOjwdW/HsmR6hVWBcP74vFRF2kOIwWWgfSFS5jXgGG4iiBiKl8Lf2Ft5/mgRbEfsE0Wt1ckJkylpBNJ67YJtqHylZXGotDYVV3le5574LNRL7mQ9/iO1Ts3dCjrSbWaOphlwEQng= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504181036681ff972@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:36:58 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wonder In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IHb3Wm004956 On 4/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > what good can come of a decision reached by 115 old men in drag locked > up in a room together > LOL. The mind reels! -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 12:37:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IHbMWm004978 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:37:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:37:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F2EB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:37:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:37:22 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IHbK5j028630 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:37:20 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 25D7886DF1007 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:37:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c5443d$39f330a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: I wonder Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:37:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: I wonder > what good can come of a decision reached by 115 old men in drag locked > up in a room together > > > BrP lol - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 12:52:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IHqAWm006499 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:52:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:52:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F2EDA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:42:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:42:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IHg8cQ029331 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:42:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so43722nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.20 with SMTP id a20mr177802nzc; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:42:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iPmq8svFC1VNL9xl9ccXJ0mYtUEZfujoMtMs1cDcQdLJlxUxKXKIKsdq9uH3NduqjeIWN+hSmbj3w9atIzTI4GqrGs7+JuIeK6I2/FhY07Hqwu+71FBjsgi4Rf7J2rn3Dy0F8jOXtffhzX+cKMaQHKnpeAVLgIe6VQYAY8GN0jo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041810423ca41b83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:42:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: <000701c54438$fc110b80$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041809564af78aa2@mail.gmail.com> <000701c54438$fc110b80$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IHqAWm006499 On 4/18/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > I have bluebonnets (a native lupine), purple iris, yellow iris, red > lilies, > mulicolor portulaca, and lavender blooming. > -- > Karen > > What? No Indian paintbrush? Not yet. I'm just establishing bluebonnets. I was just down there Ignoring me as usual. and the roadsides were one gorgeous display of color. Thanks to LBJ--Lady Bird Johnson. The bluebonnets were in their later stage but still > pretty. Lots of orange and yellows, with a little white > and pink. > Bluebonnets are not orange and yellow, nor white nor pink. They are blue. Mine are just starting to bloom, but they are later than the wild ones. Primroses are pink; I have those, too, but I forgot to name them. Some yellow is wild mustard, boo hiss. It's killing off the bluebonnets, so we hate it. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 12:54:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IHs2Wm006586 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:54:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:54:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F2F36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:54:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:54:02 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IHs1LA032281 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:54:02 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2005041817541911200m9itte>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:54:19 +0000 Message-Id: <200504181754.j3IHs1LA032281@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I wonder Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:54:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcVEO/OQ5syqXAbbQzyojFFRyTxWdQAA4ilw Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Barfoot >Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:27 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: I wonder > >what good can come of a decision reached by 115 old men in drag locked >up in a room together > > >BrP > Young boys should be scared everywhere. Alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 13:11:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IIBcWm008618 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:11:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:11:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F13C94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:01:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:01:38 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3II1bAN001421 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:01:37 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7032F73DAA523 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:01:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001401c54440$9ded56a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041809564af78aa2@mail.gmail.com> <000701c54438$fc110b80$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705041810423ca41b83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:01:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I have bluebonnets (a native lupine), purple iris, yellow iris, red > lilies, > mulicolor portulaca, and lavender blooming. > -- > Karen > > What? No Indian paintbrush? Not yet. I'm just establishing bluebonnets. I was just down there Ignoring me as usual. We went thru Dallas this time and down 45, as we went straight to Houston. My daughter's hubby is retiring from the Houston Fire Dept and they had a big party for him. Didn't stay around long. Just saw all the family and then left. The bluebonnets were in their later stage but still > pretty. Lots of orange and yellows, with a little white > and pink. > Bluebonnets are not orange and yellow, nor white nor pink. They are blue. Mine are just starting to bloom, but they are later than the wild ones. Oh yes, I know that. I meant to say that although the bb's were in their later stage, there was still lots of color in the others. I wondered if the yellow weren't mustard. The paintbrush was the best right now. Primroses are pink; I have those, too, but I forgot to name them. Some yellow is wild mustard, boo hiss. It's killing off the bluebonnets, so we hate it. -- Karen - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 13:31:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IIVlWm010832 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:31:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:31:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F3005@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:27:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:27:43 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IIRhs8006268 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:27:43 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E55695F9C790 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:27:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c54444$435de8e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Tom Snyder Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:27:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IIVlWm010832 Through a news item today about Tom Snyder (because he's just had a diagnosis) I was referred to his web site, and I found it really neat. Check it out if you like TS or want to hear how he when he's not on the air. http://www.colortini.com/index2.html - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 13:31:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IIVlWm010830 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:31:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:31:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F2F2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:21:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:21:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IILgu3005139 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:21:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so54542nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.3 with SMTP id h3mr404570nzh; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:21:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XVzXCW6VHxo8fRrh3nNNMEVEVzddw6vgRUKQjfCeQFZtqPpFX1i6AdvFkBbbL59CJCS++B95jPKwW2XofiNPE03zS+KzJ+LgpsHnNvhPnP7V154Zdnvz4b/GZGCULFYCOeybaEIMCVYmDoQm84ALP+y/AIQlpc2MyKvlnNANGA4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504181121105db75e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:21:41 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: <001401c54440$9ded56a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041809564af78aa2@mail.gmail.com> <000701c54438$fc110b80$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705041810423ca41b83@mail.gmail.com> <001401c54440$9ded56a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IIVlWm010830 On 4/18/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Oh yes, I know that. I meant to say that although the bb's were > in their later stage, there was still lots of color in the others. There is nothing better than a Texas spring. We have more types of butterflies than any other state--I wouldn't be surprised if we have more types of wildflowers, either. In any case, LBJ has helped to make them more obvious. I wondered if the yellow weren't mustard. They are a very pale yellow. There are other sorts of things that are a brighter yellow--I have primula, too, that are yellow. The portulaca was my biggest surprise; I really love them. Oh--I forgot my red cyclamen and red salvia, too. Everything is blooming! -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 13:33:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IIXZWm011001 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:33:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:33:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F2F56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:33:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:33:35 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IIXXPG007171 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:33:34 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:33:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:33:09 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: first vote Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU black smoke BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 13:47:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IIlbWm012278 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:47:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:47:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F30D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:47:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:47:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IIlXRT010960 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:47:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2298243nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr407263nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=T7cqu/XI0zluMN7AFxclJidnACS1gFqqBP2os8FHMmeGcKWsvuglHZYY3cHxEuAN4a1P2lbihXkuy0Ya9GpTCL1kQJjCRssN8P+c2g9WVOymjDbMlWvRZWeqeUfjsScMTPopUKn1tWSmztPKhJY5DNWRKO5Gg2GO6V8hsY2Prbc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050418114741e0681d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:47:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: first vote In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IIlbWm012278 On 4/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > black smoke > I was listening to NPR this morning, and they said something about how after 30 ballots, a simple majority would win, and their was fear that this would block any decision. Do you understand this? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 13:48:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IImZWm012414 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:48:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:48:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2F18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:48:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:48:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IImYE8011211 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:48:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2298659nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr408029nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nWJ5Xyx8LkRFijhUt/lk3g2pmGMtd+CJ6wRdzbuOtiH02wpi9rWAN55Wq2a0DNhqmy7DnXE+WgfvrmGs6Cjo6oDHfuDAwiokx16abJzkbgA81QNr/4PV60y+TTyx8BZ6E42VEcGA2RhHY7h/FJirHQfP9bxB/7F7r3Yk7SE0RoM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050418114842ec6dc0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:48:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tom Snyder In-Reply-To: <000c01c54444$435de8e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000c01c54444$435de8e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IImZWm012414 Of what? Not that I really care, but "he's just had a diagnosis" doesn't sound like English to me. On 4/18/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Through a news item today about Tom Snyder > (because he's just had a diagnosis) I was referred > to his web site, and I found it really neat. > > Check it out if you like TS or want to hear how > he when he's not on the air. > > http://www.colortini.com/index2.html > > > - D. M. > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 13:54:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IIs2Wm012893 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:54:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:54:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F311E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:54:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:54:02 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IIs22c012593 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:54:02 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:54:02 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:42 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: first vote Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU after 10 days in conclave, the rule of 2/3 +1 changes to simple majority I assume the fear is that a series of unsuccessful votes in the first couple of days would motivate the o.m.i.d. to wait until the rule changed - but who knows. They could have already decided and are just partying before sending up the white smoke - wanting it to have more dramatic effect BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/18/2005 2:47:32 PM >>> On 4/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > black smoke > I was listening to NPR this morning, and they said something about how after 30 ballots, a simple majority would win, and their was fear that this would block any decision. Do you understand this? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 13:55:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IItIWm013043 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:55:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:55:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2F68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:55:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:55:18 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IItIHK012987 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:55:18 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:55:18 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:55:03 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Tom Snyder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU like "he has a temperature" BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/18/2005 2:48:33 PM >>> "he's just had a diagnosis" doesn't sound like English to me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 13:57:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IIv2Wm013192 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:57:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:57:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F13F1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:57:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:57:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IIv1mY013319 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:57:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2301539nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr408276nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.15 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Pmvm7oPJEFAcatbZ0aSrxskbEC+RZ2Ha2EnToNyCJqmUVyIZsi8ipKxNkrnY/HfwGt0h0aJ2goJz4wCVZ0IBmfAYf+Ol78Y2MaNWGUd8J2OIxlanUFC8yOjSJjYeyBw4oHBrQkL/J4t+mUZXtgRaVYcJT+ix4Ljlt68gk2hHLUU= Message-ID: <945393270504181157215da056@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:57:01 -0700 From: Larry Clark Reply-To: Larry Clark To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tom Snyder In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050418114842ec6dc0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000c01c54444$435de8e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050418114842ec6dc0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3IIv2mY013326 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 4/18/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Of what? Egomania From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:11:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJBDWm014815 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:11:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:11:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3098@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:01:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:01:13 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IJ1CE6014552 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:01:13 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-69.gwi.net [216.195.166.69]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3IJ177G015075; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:01:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050418145237.01c09548@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:18 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: first vote In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:33 PM 4/18/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >black smoke So, Ratzy's campaign speech yesterday may not have worked... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:11:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJBDWm014816 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:11:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:11:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F30BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:04:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:04:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IJ4Qiw015351 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:04:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2304272nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.19 with SMTP id j19mr409347nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:04:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KsJ5aO/AHx1vxBG2xNeM/pHqgQhhkLaVMD1+bInS/saJoNyDhy3rJh1cHamN3Xi1F2GRAvW3HnqPM3YZoXooPvpMWUVT0w2wUV5w/ZRdO/hMRJkUwDkeLyM+QuoEvWtTjlBhXdQql/33bmbOom0bib+asBr3ASq3QLkmmA3fH44= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050418120466317378@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:04:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tom Snyder In-Reply-To: <945393270504181157215da056@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000c01c54444$435de8e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050418114842ec6dc0@mail.gmail.com> <945393270504181157215da056@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IJBDWm014816 On 4/18/05, Larry Clark wrote: > > On 4/18/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > Of what? > > Egomania > LOL. I love it when you post, Larry. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:11:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJBDWm014817 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:11:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:11:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F2F98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:01:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:01:14 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IJ1ELN014560 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:01:14 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-69.gwi.net [216.195.166.69]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3IJ177H015075; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:01:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050418145327.01c089d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:01:09 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: first vote In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050418114741e0681d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050418114741e0681d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:47 PM 4/18/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 4/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > black smoke > > > >I was listening to NPR this morning, and they said something about how after >30 ballots, a simple majority would win, and their was fear that this would >block any decision. Do you understand this? The logic of it would seem to be that if three or more candidates existed, there is the possibility of a vote split such that nobody would get the 58 votes. My understanding is that candidates remain in the race as long as they get votes or until they withdraw. The moderates (who are the minority) could block the election of someone really unpopular to them (e.g., Ratzinger) by keeping a couple of candidates going. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:11:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJBDWm014818 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:11:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:11:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F30B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:04:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:04:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IJ3wW8015222 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:04:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2304104nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr409683nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:03:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=icG2Lb1U7Qo7hD92JLD8lEpst2QPbchBYRMx5YHevkybuJZV5ZJtpGpo3z1LyZq34PEBUY5nOivOAjK1l5P2I0X2moBLXTdX9w2kOo+vAT923l0YLdrI6xgnAd1+jDLBMozv0d5dDKxEXiftv1ZaCTWdSrO7kvfDSjfx5rApnSw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041812032b174bbd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:03:58 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tom Snyder In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IJBDWm014818 But that's English. Btw, what does it take to be feverish? Is it only one degree? On 4/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > like "he has a temperature" > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/18/2005 2:48:33 PM >>> > "he's just had a diagnosis" doesn't sound like English to me. > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:19:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJIqWm015769 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:18:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:19:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F31E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:18:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:18:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IJIojg018340 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:18:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2308935nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.91.10 with SMTP id o10mr188354nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:18:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oGbyw4lvLj5qhCbZk//xyevKAfDl9gxh33w1leR/CmHwTOqT9jBOTLuUKSv8OCANCjw0P32/rBzkVn+OK4Xrxjq9QgsOhOmNGCxOxxLfb+wc8zmxwqY/NYngoTN1YpU6tJE5pAI0P/N267NyizvGzub2lGfVvboH48dskeLs7Ho= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041812185cef9219@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:18:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: first vote In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050418145327.01c089d0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050418114741e0681d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050418145327.01c089d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IJIqWm015769 On 4/18/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > At 02:47 PM 4/18/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >On 4/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > > > black smoke > > > > > > >I was listening to NPR this morning, and they said something about how > after > >30 ballots, a simple majority would win, and their was fear that this > would > >block any decision. Do you understand this? > > The logic of it would seem to be that if three or more candidates existed, > there is the possibility of a vote split such that nobody would get the 58 > votes. My understanding is that candidates remain in the race as long as > they get votes or until they withdraw. The moderates (who are the > minority) could block the election of someone really unpopular to them > (e.g., Ratzinger) by keeping a couple of candidates going. Thank you, that makes sense. Last weekend I had lunch with a friend who reads close captioning at the gym, and he finds it an endless source of amusement. Ratzinger's name was spelled as two words.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:21:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJLUWm016045 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:21:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:21:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F31FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:21:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:21:29 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3IJBQIx016607 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:11:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 69567 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Apr 2005 19:11:25 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:11:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird Message-ID: <20050418191125.GA66793@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050418043959f5dbfc@mail.gmail.com> <002001c54411$73e61b00$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <83db447a05041806091b16be58@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83db447a05041806091b16be58@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 09:09:44AM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 4/18/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A Friend of Andy" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:39 AM > > Subject: Weird > > > > > > One interesting thing that he keeps saying is that all recent papal > > decisions have been a lock before the conclave, so the conclave itself has > > merely been pro forma, rather than a real conclave. I have no idea whether > > this is true or not, of course. > > -- > > It's downright dangerous for me to go online > > before I've had my coffee . . > > > > I was reading this as Paypal conclave and Paypal > > decisions. > > There is probably more symmetry there than you think... Irony. Lovely. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:23:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJNmWm016284 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:23:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:23:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F320B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:23:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:23:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3IJDkXw017117 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:13:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 70098 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Apr 2005 19:13:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:13:45 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are Message-ID: <20050418191345.GB66793@words-l.org> References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 11:17:00AM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > I survived for 72 hours of net deprivation. > > dan > > Only to return to us to stir up trouble about Natalie's car accident. Could > you please just leave it alone when she responds to you with the usual: "I > would rather just pay the money and get my car fixed then deal with a police > report, my insurance company, and this wretched woman who doesn't have the > consideration to carry insurance." or maybe it will be "Here is Mississippi > we don't involve lawyers or police. We just take care of our car repairs. I > know a man, who is so good that he doesn't need to advertise, who will pound > out that dent in nothing flat." Whatever it is, don't argue, Dan. You can't > win. You can't even break even. The loveliness of the irony is off the scale! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:26:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJQVWm016429 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:26:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:26:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F140BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:26:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:26:31 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IJQUA9020006 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:26:31 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D22831B863A73 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:26:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002601c5444c$79ea7920$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: first vote Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:26:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:33 PM Subject: first vote > black smoke > > > BrP I wonder if it smelled funny. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:30:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJUVWm016991 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:30:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:30:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F14091@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:30:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:30:25 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3IJKOGu018695 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:20:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 73893 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Apr 2005 19:20:24 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:20:24 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hacking the Papal Election Message-ID: <20050418192024.GC66793@words-l.org> References: <20050417093622.GA616@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050417141618.GB62110@words-l.org> <1224203083.20050418095154@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1224203083.20050418095154@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 09:51:54AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/17/2005, 8:16 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> http://photos1.blogger.com/img/7/1435/640/040106cividale08a.jpg > > DMH> Can you believe the cheapass poinsettias--or whatever they are-- > DMH> in a church like that? > > What would you have instead? Also, in my experience, the altar and > other flowers are donations from parishoners. I was just surprised at the mismatch with the marble and hardwood and the "chasubles" etc. "What would you have instead" is a non-question ... in fact the best example of a non-question there is ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:32:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJVuWm017191 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:31:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:32:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3193@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:31:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:31:55 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3IJLsGS018916 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:21:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 74600 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Apr 2005 19:21:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:21:53 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: URLs Message-ID: <20050418192153.GD66793@words-l.org> References: <20050417143915.GA87573@words-l.org> <1039927609.20050418095256@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1039927609.20050418095256@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 09:52:56AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/17/2005, 8:39 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> I am planning on going to the library to check if they have > DMH> the Da Vinci Code, if it stops drizzling. Then I think I will > DMH> have breakfast at the diner and read the Sun Times. > > That fits. Most restaurants wouldn't let you in with the Scum Times. > But at the diner it is probably sold in a vending machine outside. Wrong ... it has 3 or 4 copies you an borrow ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:53:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJrNWm019274 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F309C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:33:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:33:22 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IJXMsM021185 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:33:22 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FE871FDB4557 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:33:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004501c5444d$6f30b200$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Tom Snyder Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:33:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Tom Snyder > like "he has a temperature" > > BrP > >>>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/18/2005 2:48:33 PM >>> > "he's just had a diagnosis" doesn't sound like English to me. Actually, it sounds more like he just "gave birth" to a diagnosis, which would certainly be wrong. But who cares. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:53:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJrNWm019279 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F32C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:45:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:45:21 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IJjLPo023991 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:45:21 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:45:21 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:44:51 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: first vote Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It will be fun to see how Jack and Rexella tie the eventual selection to the bit of Revelation BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/18/2005 3:25:39 PM >>> I feel like I am reading the End of the World News ... if I remember the name right ... On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 02:53:42PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > after 10 days in conclave, the rule of 2/3 +1 changes to simple > majority > > I assume the fear is that a series of unsuccessful votes in the first > couple of days would motivate the o.m.i.d. to wait until the rule > changed - but who knows. They could have already decided and are just > partying before sending up the white smoke - wanting it to have more > dramatic effect From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:53:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJrNWm019276 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F31B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:35:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:35:51 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3IJPdhi019854 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:25:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 76860 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Apr 2005 19:25:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:25:39 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: first vote Message-ID: <20050418192539.GE66793@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I feel like I am reading the End of the World News ... if I remember the name right ... On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 02:53:42PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > after 10 days in conclave, the rule of 2/3 +1 changes to simple > majority > > I assume the fear is that a series of unsuccessful votes in the first > couple of days would motivate the o.m.i.d. to wait until the rule > changed - but who knows. They could have already decided and are just > partying before sending up the white smoke - wanting it to have more > dramatic effect From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 14:56:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IJuQWm019536 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:56:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:56:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3248@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:56:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:56:25 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IJuPT3025967 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:56:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16675527 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:09:37 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:56:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:56:23 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1337151812.20050418135623@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041809564af78aa2@mail.gmail.com> References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041809564af78aa2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57307, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/18/2005, 10:56 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I have bluebonnets (a native lupine), purple iris, yellow iris, red lilies, AFoA> mulicolor portulaca, and lavender blooming. And I have daffodils and tulips, with the rose bushes growing like weeds, but no buds yet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 15:00:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IK08Wm019911 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:00:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:00:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3269@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:00:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:00:08 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IK07Qr026859 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:00:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16887078 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:23:36 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:00:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:00:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1617985840.20050418140006@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: first vote In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050418114741e0681d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050418114741e0681d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 167, in=58980, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/18/2005, 12:47 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I was listening to NPR this morning, and they said something about how after AFoA> 30 ballots, a simple majority would win, and their was fear that this would AFoA> block any decision. Do you understand this? Yes. What is confusing? They presumably mean that nothing will happen but black smoke for the first thirty ballots. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 15:12:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IKCUWm021356 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:12:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:12:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F337C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:08:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:08:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IK85np029106 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:08:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2324610nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr415669nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:08:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oU03yL79Le4hcDjhAhg2yBWRUTsZsR07yYJdX46pzjWylqQaJH7HAtZGWJb15zbZXH/h3iutSPvUMZwTyEvdK97PaOK5r3RDTevR/xfXQAJ08CF88k8NYI1SH24G7XFlL57ULv+WCFe88V6waHP/bNMYBqC2OLr54H1qaPSPhBo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504181308598209be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:08:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: <1337151812.20050418135623@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705041809564af78aa2@mail.gmail.com> <1337151812.20050418135623@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IKCUWm021356 On 4/18/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/18/2005, 10:56 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> I have bluebonnets (a native lupine), purple iris, yellow iris, red > lilies, > AFoA> mulicolor portulaca, and lavender blooming. > > And I have daffodils and tulips, with the rose bushes growing like > weeds, but no buds yet. > I have 3 kinds of roses blooming, too; forgot about those. And lettuce and lemon balm and sorrel and salad burnet and chives and ... You get the drift. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 15:12:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IKCTWm021353 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:12:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:12:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F3349@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:02:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:02:28 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IK2QqG027556 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:02:26 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16676261 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:15:38 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:02:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:02:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <399133295.20050418140224@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hacking the Papal Election In-Reply-To: <20050418192024.GC66793@words-l.org> References: <20050417093622.GA616@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050417141618.GB62110@words-l.org> <1224203083.20050418095154@gailndan.com> <20050418192024.GC66793@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57310, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/18/2005, 1:20 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> DMH> Can you believe the cheapass poinsettias--or whatever they are-- >> DMH> in a church like that? >> >> What would you have instead? Also, in my experience, the altar and >> other flowers are donations from parishoners. DMH> I was just surprised at the mismatch with the marble and hardwood DMH> and the "chasubles" etc. DMH> "What would you have instead" is a non-question ... in fact the DMH> best example of a non-question there is ... And WHY does not "what would you have instead not make sense? Would you have petunias, hollyhocks, irises, or what? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 15:12:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IKCUWm021355 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:12:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:12:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F32B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:07:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:07:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IK7BEI028861 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:07:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so82069nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.13 with SMTP id m13mr416010nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:07:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Y/Tg8i/ShNCcbUgJ7EUGhDIQGWbz6u/zyo6EJW/LeDwqtNw8Tl8KETwXuy+WiKQ3oxJVvtFf4/rbpmc4uPOjTT/7WUw26z6zNcCL+HE99IXgoi4Y0/9NtFAk7ywj+SUw4v1dlU8K2QgGx/3uORz9EoCD4AYr7gu9APEK4KxwFTo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041813075331f1fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:07:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: first vote In-Reply-To: <1617985840.20050418140006@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050418114741e0681d@mail.gmail.com> <1617985840.20050418140006@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IKCUWm021355 On 4/18/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/18/2005, 12:47 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> I was listening to NPR this morning, and they said something about > how after > AFoA> 30 ballots, a simple majority would win, and their was fear that > this would > AFoA> block any decision. Do you understand this? > > Yes. What is confusing? They presumably mean that nothing will > happen but black smoke for the first thirty ballots. > No, that's not what they mean. Read Clyde's explanation. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 15:12:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IKCTWm021354 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:12:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:12:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F319F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:05:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:05:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IK57ot028286 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:05:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2323652nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.4 with SMTP id h4mr415895nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:05:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=a6OwVZ7lC3XnrO/nNnt7yBxY0tynasdqeYQQufKnCAR6xsZREoDrdiTuTANHfMTw+w+8KR7M4hrq3WSe+PswnYUa9WDevFhpbN4+76XI9hJpFF717MUD0erzbBwNRQWoFcr8H1l5+g4qiLF+MoysDXu+mYB1FfbQ9u3KHkF2FSg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041813051c1a12c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:05:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Oh, pooh. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IKCTWm021354 Lance retires.:( -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 15:33:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IKXRWm023845 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:33:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:33:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F344C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:33:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:33:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IKXQHt002900 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:33:26 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F143C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:33:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200504182033.j3IKXQHt002900@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:33:26 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: I wonder To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:27:04 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >what good can come of a decision reached by 115 old men in drag locked >up in a room together > > >BrP LOL! In about 30 years maybe you can throw one of these shindigs, and then we'll know! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 15:45:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IKjLWm025144 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:45:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:45:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F32D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:45:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:45:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IKjLq2004721 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:45:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2335697nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.31.10 with SMTP id e10mr419172nze; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:45:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=pZbCQfxBcCHXd9sPUXskSagrAEF/1KljUSLr4+DyS/9KvAFJVDSRh18pKzYJmV0WZS+U4eKUS/mH0vMcskTvPraGMg9DBrIGwJjf6tKpK54qmTug8p5CQ5hh24qmzHc0PCqoPhwBztR+rXKribzNGIR2geG0lf2inWwoiCoiKMM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050418134565dbe5c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:45:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Lance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3IKjLWm025144 Seven! Seven! Seven! -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:18:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILI1Wm029307 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:18:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3520@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:18:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:18:01 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILI1Ut010286 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:18:01 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F35E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:18:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200504182118.j3ILI1Ut010286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:18:01 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: first vote To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/18/2005 2:47:32 PM >>> >On 4/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> >> black smoke >I was listening to NPR this morning, and they said something about how >after >30 ballots, a simple majority would win, and their was fear that this >would block any decision. Do you understand this? On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:42 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >after 10 days in conclave, the rule of 2/3 +1 changes to simple >majority > >I assume the fear is that a series of unsuccessful votes in the first >couple of days would motivate the o.m.i.d. to wait until the rule >changed - but who knows. They could have already decided and are just >partying before sending up the white smoke - wanting it to have more >dramatic effect > Did you watch West Wing a couple of weeks ago, when they were at the party convention? It's the same sort of thought process: maybe I should stop voting for my guy now, and vote for the next best person; on the other hand, if I hold out till the 35th vote, maybe some of the people who've dropped out will add votes to my candidate and he will be elected by majority. I read something long ago, as a kid... could it have been called "Shoes of the Fisherman?". The first part was a conclave, and they ultimately elected someone like JPII but younger and (iirc) more liberal? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:25:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILPWWm030086 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:25:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:25:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F14711@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:25:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 145495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:25:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILPRxo012131 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:25:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1264nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.31.10 with SMTP id e10mr422849nze; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:25:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tOe2So2+Q3ZT2O5JWDr2KFt77AIdhwYMT/4ph5xTyZ6q0vnduecFH3JubqZtzaECCYosyKrjVM8smTVpV+aYRFW7jw/2e7l8Q5QboiN/h8sobuqxPvDq9eUnqFwZDaD9ZvLfpIipxlcAU0FSzN+FcUPnxHLM9m8t1jb9H2HTwD8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050418142558e70540@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:25:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: first vote In-Reply-To: <200504182118.j3ILI1Ut010286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504182118.j3ILI1Ut010286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ILPWWm030086 Definitely more liberal. The SofF author, whose name escapes me, is a liberal Catholic. On 4/18/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >>>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/18/2005 2:47:32 PM >>> > >On 4/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> > >> black smoke > > >I was listening to NPR this morning, and they said something about how > >after > >30 ballots, a simple majority would win, and their was fear that this > >would block any decision. Do you understand this? > > > On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:42 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >after 10 days in conclave, the rule of 2/3 +1 changes to simple > >majority > > > >I assume the fear is that a series of unsuccessful votes in the first > >couple of days would motivate the o.m.i.d. to wait until the rule > >changed - but who knows. They could have already decided and are just > >partying before sending up the white smoke - wanting it to have more > >dramatic effect > > > > Did you watch West Wing a couple of weeks ago, when they were at the > party convention? It's the same sort of thought process: maybe I should > stop voting for my guy now, and vote for the next best person; on the > other hand, if I hold out till the 35th vote, maybe some of the people > who've dropped out will add votes to my candidate and he will be elected > by majority. > > I read something long ago, as a kid... could it have been called "Shoes of > the Fisherman?". The first part was a conclave, and they ultimately > elected > someone like JPII but younger and (iirc) more liberal? > > clo > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:30:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILUGWm030577 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:30:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:30:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F352F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:20:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:20:15 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILKFkn010808 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:20:15 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F1465A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:20:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200504182120.j3ILKFkn010808@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:20:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Tom Snyder To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:03:58 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >But that's English. > >Btw, what does it take to be feverish? Intense excitement about something. >Is it only one degree? Ohhhh, "feverish"! I call it "low-grade fever" below 101. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:30:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILUTWm030612 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:30:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:30:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F34A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:30:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:30:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILUST4013585 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:30:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2450nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr424076nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:30:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FnOimDFowMh9R5FtWivm5z6mHC/ykudRNjls24hSTOM/d9cMPbPSqNc0vn6cXO8LbaGuqzAntxTZg/E48K1KgEYgPnwqIhOKd/Zy0vAdUqoEDRoMKXh6XmSzuBa9P1xLAZt4HFa6iGXWVXTw0Yv+3aBmdvNqPmXaaZieFhwqW9M= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050418143025a1c500@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:30:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tom Snyder In-Reply-To: <200504182120.j3ILKFkn010808@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504182120.j3ILKFkn010808@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ILUTWm030612 On 4/18/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:03:58 -0500, A Friend of Andy > wrote: > > >But that's English. > > > >Btw, what does it take to be feverish? > Intense excitement about something. > > >Is it only one degree? > Ohhhh, "feverish"! > > I call it "low-grade fever" below 101. I went to a doctor a while back and he told me I was feverish at 99.7. That's why I asked. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:31:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILV3Wm030682 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:31:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:31:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F35A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:30:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:30:59 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILUwLK013722 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:30:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.101.187]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050418213058.ESZK1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:30:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:30:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>>I don't know what it would do to rates, but I do think that requiring it >>>would be a good thing. I didn't bother to do anything like get this >>> >>> >>It is mandatory in Norway - and I would guess most of Europe. >> >> >It's required in most US states--I didn't realize that there were states >where it wasn't required until Natalie mentioned it. However, even in states > > I didn't mention it. It was either Dan or Alan, I think. Alan. I remember now. I don't know whether it is or isn't required in Mississippi. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:36:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILaRWm031330 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:36:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:36:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F368B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:36:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:36:22 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILaMcS015194 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:36:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.101.187]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050418213621.EWBD1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:36:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42642851.7070501@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:36:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <83db447a050415120967612705@mail.gmail.com> <00e201c54201$f79b7c90$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <4260409D.2020509@maynor.net> <1579333057.20050418090306@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1579333057.20050418090306@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Unless you don't sell or trade it until it is "a beater", the cosmetic >does matter. No respectable dealer is going to sell a car with a >bashed in side. > > My assumption is that they would fix it -- at their discounted cost rather than at my (or whatever ordinary person, as opposed to a car dealer) full cost. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:37:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILbSWm031459 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:37:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:37:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F35CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:37:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:37:27 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILbRkg015355 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:37:27 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1605667wri for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.30.13 with SMTP id d13mr365972wrd; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:37:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ci6mHENhSDRVoIHKP+T80exnF+NlVi91uJm5HwyVzhc9cmyq8iNMzxJRcMdZSWgPetXzAjDNjrirEW46bodFIZAuCfGfPcvUWVNZp1KOeOHw+3ccczkGNNHKqrL4yRasymxBJWlrJHe05JNdY/sPwfu9teCFZ1UJG1vXuvuBQ4M= Message-ID: <83db447a05041814376994fe2a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:37:25 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: first vote In-Reply-To: <200504182118.j3ILI1Ut010286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504182118.j3ILI1Ut010286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ILbSWm031459 On 4/18/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > I read something long ago, as a kid... could it have been called "Shoes of > the Fisherman?". The first part was a conclave, and they ultimately > elected > someone like JPII but younger and (iirc) more liberal? Subsequently it was a movie with Anthony Quinn, Laurence Olivier, John Gielgud, Oskar Werner, Vittorio De Sica, and Leo McKern. The footage of the events from the death of the pope through the election of his successor in the conclave are pretty good. Werner is good as a Teilhard de Chardin type. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:38:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILcJWm031565 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:38:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:38:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F35D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:38:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:38:18 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILcIIP015479 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:38:18 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1605900wri for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.6 with SMTP id k6mr329319wrk; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:38:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nVkQC2lkJt/KOJwLY0xIF597k2uCwSfskIYKb89BzwmLcjV+OqZItGF7xLkVGSNbgJOelqVyUKodSY7353ZIFN0+BElQgu+bezqscY8ZeJfYck/j0FeB4KI+I9E7/8uim5ShIDz1LyEOv61Az9nrMP/1Qu0QDLK7nyilprWikrY= Message-ID: <83db447a05041814382cfbb4e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:38:12 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: first vote In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050418142558e70540@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504182118.j3ILI1Ut010286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a7050418142558e70540@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ILcJWm031565 On 4/18/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Definitely more liberal. The SofF author, whose name escapes me, is a > liberal Catholic. Morris L. West. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:44:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILi0Wm032150 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:44:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:44:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F36D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:59 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILhxmO016846 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.101.187]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050418214359.FAIQ1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42642A1A.3070306@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:43:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>I survived for 72 hours of net deprivation. >>dan >> >> >Only to return to us to stir up trouble about Natalie's car accident. Could >you please just leave it alone when she responds to you with the usual: "I >would rather just pay the money and get my car fixed then deal with a police >report, my insurance company, and this wretched woman who doesn't have the >consideration to carry insurance." or maybe it will be "Here is Mississippi >we don't involve lawyers or police. We just take care of our car repairs. I >know a man, who is so good that he doesn't need to advertise, who will pound >out that dent in nothing flat." Whatever it is, don't argue, Dan. You can't >win. You can't even break even. > > What "trouble" is Dan stirring up? And yes, I would rather lose a few dollars in the trade-in of the car than fool with the hassles of fighting this woman over it. I'm not sure why you call that "the usual" since I don't recall ever having had a discussion of this kind before, but remind me to avoid mentioning anything like it in the future since it seems to make you snarky (for reasons I don't understand). I'm not sure, btw, what you mean about winning or breaking even in arguing. I certainly am not arguing. What's there to argue about? It's fine with me if Dan or others choose to react in different ways from my way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:45:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILj9Wm032348 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:45:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:45:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F14784@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:35:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:35:09 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILZ8OK014883 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:35:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.101.187]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050418213508.EVJM1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:35:08 -0400 Message-ID: <42642807.9090707@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:35:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <83db447a050415120967612705@mail.gmail.com> <42603F2E.20009@maynor.net> <1625092557.20050418090158@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1625092557.20050418090158@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I don't think any of it >NM> would be paid for anyway since the damage is probably less than $1,000, >NM> and I'm pretty sure that's my deductible. > >If it is less than a grand, it must be VERY minor. > > It is. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:45:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILj9Wn032348 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:45:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:45:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F148B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILhRvM016753 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:43:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2351038nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.5 with SMTP id l5mr425209nzc; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:43:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=S5NNfT9RVt0P4XKNNsq8gV4MzH7iwDxMavZATf+S5T79fHShibRBoD3fgXPp7AZw/Mi6xV7u4OnXuo/waffxy3I35pIvFxaPoDrfP1sTU6MuHn0vd9qP6cK79/99X+Hbp7QPtor3pF/aBMx4oiGtFEAD3KmkHc0hP+fBUwFqaqg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050418144377f37fa4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:43:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: first vote In-Reply-To: <83db447a05041814382cfbb4e2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504182118.j3ILI1Ut010286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a7050418142558e70540@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05041814382cfbb4e2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ILj9Wn032348 Thank you. The book created Quite A Stir in my parish. On 4/18/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > On 4/18/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > Definitely more liberal. The SofF author, whose name escapes me, is a > > liberal Catholic. > > Morris L. West. > cwv > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:46:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILkVWm032492 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:46:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:46:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F36EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:46:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:46:31 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILkUZC017234 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:46:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.101.187]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050418214630.FBTU1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:46:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42642AB1.5010703@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:46:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are References: <200504181524.j3IFOVdK000518@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504181524.j3IFOVdK000518@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Natalie, when you come up for FingerFest, you might want to visit >this: >Glenn Curtis Museum (one-time "fastest man on earth") >http://www.linkny.com/~curtiss/ > > Thanks. I'll check out the url later. Got rid of my houseguest later than I expected today and then discovered that I'm to take hors d'oeuvres to a function at 6 p.m., so things have been and still are hectic. I've bicycled in the Finger Lakes, btw -- or make that near the Finger Lakes -- wasn't an amphibious bike. Went to a bicycle rally there in '71. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:57:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ILunWm000754 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:56:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:57:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F35F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:46:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:46:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ILkmep017279 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:46:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2351755nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.3 with SMTP id h3mr424843nzh; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EIeyFRu/xvBj0FwrguWsnPvvWagYpatF/2yl6P1RoQZi583ZI1q1u1jabdLs82BBuTaskdqI7XAYbUSS6F8GMy58vzxFQZ6as+jD6W+Qp8VtI5fvxTLnue8fa7oyEjMFITN9jVll0Ky2qgOQDqBLBxhb6oOSPO3i0HtxxK402u8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504181446700338cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:46:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3ILunWm000754 On 4/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>>I don't know what it would do to rates, but I do think that requiring > it > >>>would be a good thing. I didn't bother to do anything like get this > >>> > >>> > >>It is mandatory in Norway - and I would guess most of Europe. > >> > >> > >It's required in most US states--I didn't realize that there were states > >where it wasn't required until Natalie mentioned it. However, even in > states > > > > > I didn't mention it. It was either Dan or Alan, I think. Alan. I > remember now. I don't know whether it is or isn't required in Mississippi. > How can you not know? Do you pay attention to local news? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 17:16:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3IMGkWm003287 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:16:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:16:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F36E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:16:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:16:46 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3IMGj5Q021891 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:16:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:16:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:16:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Tom Snyder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I would be feverish at 99.7 My normalis about 97.5 Is your normal lower than the "normal" normal? BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 04/18/05 5:30 PM >>> I went to a doctor a while back and he told me I was feverish at 99.7. That's why I asked. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 18:42:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3INgjWm012411 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:42:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:42:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F3A2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:42:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:42:45 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3INgi5l031227 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:42:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so25563nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.8 with SMTP id m8mr433181nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:42:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=POglgls1yV2DUe6wk7To3tOwFL8dETXQYSJBMcMlotGwwhoD8srgKOFFSo5fLUJaSSO3eKTSjxV5h6APfsxma9+nkT8UxjppiMeRsQLcmAxrxynXezLaUqdgqayXltuYvwhzuuCVdLtnS3xAed0JblC7AEGNg6OMdnrf0mQ7Y80= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041816426e5060d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:42:44 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tom Snyder In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3INgjWm012411 On 4/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I would be feverish at 99.7 My normalis about 97.5 > Is your normal lower than the "normal" normal? > It used to be the same as yours. (No, I'm not making this up.) I don't know what it is now. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 18:49:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3INmvWm013103 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:48:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:49:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F3888@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:48:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:48:56 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3INmubb031998 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:48:56 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:48:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:48:27 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Tom Snyder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We're so cooool ! BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 04/18/05 7:42 PM >>> On 4/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I would be feverish at 99.7 My normalis about 97.5 > Is your normal lower than the "normal" normal? > It used to be the same as yours. (No, I'm not making this up.) I don't know what it is now. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 19:36:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J0ZqWm018472 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:35:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:36:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3A11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:35:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:35:52 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J0ZpPJ005873 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:35:51 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005041900355001500ottmme>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:35:50 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Evelyn Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:35:42 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <426398BC.5020601@akad.ee> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Happy birthday! > > Yes! And many more! > > Kristin Yes! Happy birthday, Evelyn. I hope your McDonalds meal and Witch Hunter Robin-watching were as satisfying as you'd hoped. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 20:14:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J1EpWm022980 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:14:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:14:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F14D68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:04:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:04:51 -0400 Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com (imo-m17.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J14o7p009428 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:04:50 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.79.43b28199 (3996) for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:04:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <79.43b28199.2f95b331@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:04:49 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Evelyn To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 4/18/2005 7:36:07 PM Central Daylight Time, adamh1@COMCAST.NET writes: << Happy birthday, Evelyn. I hope your McDonalds meal and Witch Hunter Robin-watching were as satisfying as you'd hoped. >> Thanks! I didn't go to McDonald's because I had to go to the drug store to pick up some items and Subway is in the same plaza, so I went there. And Witch Hunter Robin is always good; it's one of the best anime series around. Another good one is Big O, but that always makes me wonder what our society would be like today if everyone here had lost his/her memories 40 years ago. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 20:19:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J1JcWm023500 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:19:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:19:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3A8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:19:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:19:38 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J19crR009865 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:09:38 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3J19NWu019005 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:09:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:09:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: that bashed-in side Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: OTOH, sometimes a bashed-in side is attractive to a prospective buyer - the prospective buyer will know exactly what happened. Shortly after I bought my late minivan, someone bashed in the passenger front door (in the downtown YMCA parking lot - and left no note). I got repair estimates. My insurance co. told me to pick the one I liked best and they would mail me a check for the amount of the estimate. They did, and I was going to have the repairs made. Then someone pointed out that at its age, the bashed-in side was a plus, not a negative. It also occurred to me that the bashed-in side made my vehicle a less attractive target in its downtown parking lot. So I did not get it repaired. Of course if one is going to trade to a dealer, that is usually a different matter... eventually, though, I traded my bashed-in minivan to a dealer. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 20:40:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J1egWm026257 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F3B57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:23:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:23:07 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J1D7HO010225 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:13:07 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3J1Cr5E021564 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:12:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:13:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Evelyn! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy B-day! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 20:40:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J1egWm026260 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F3B5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:23:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:23:54 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J1DsDY010285 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:13:54 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3J1Dewi022109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:13:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:13:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Trek Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bush rides a Trek - anyone else? I am bicycle-shopping ... If I bought a Trek, then Bush and I would have two things in common, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 20:41:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J1egWm026252 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F398E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:20:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:20:41 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J1Af3h009989 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:10:41 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3J1ARsl019732 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:10:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:10:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: dogwood winter Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's here - and dogwoods rule. They are absolutely spectacular this year, especially in Sequoyah Hills, where they are everywhere. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 20:41:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J1egWn026257 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:41:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3ABF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:39:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:39:11 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J1dBEI013734 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:39:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.172]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419013910.SCUU2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:39:10 -0400 Message-ID: <4264613A.5080503@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:39:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: that bashed-in side References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Of course if one is >going to trade to a dealer, that is usually a different matter... >eventually, though, I traded my bashed-in minivan to a dealer. > > How else does one trade a car in? I realize that some people sell cars directly to buyers, but I've never heard of trading in a car except to a dealer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 20:41:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J1egWn026260 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:41:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F39C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:40:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:40:15 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J1eEdt013906 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:40:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.172]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419014014.SDUC2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:40:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4264617A.9090901@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trek References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I am bicycle-shopping ... > > I could have given you insider expert advice 30+ years ago. I guess that doesn't help, though, does it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 20:40:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J1egWm026254 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F3B72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:33:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:33:05 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J1X4ZQ012784 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:33:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.172]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419013304.RXGY2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:33:04 -0400 Message-ID: <42645FCA.9040305@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:32:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: first vote References: <200504182118.j3ILI1Ut010286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504182118.j3ILI1Ut010286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >I read something long ago, as a kid... could it have been called "Shoes of >the Fisherman?". > Yes. That was a popular book back whenever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 20:41:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J1egWm026259 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:40:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:41:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F3B7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:37:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:37:17 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J1bH4p013461 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:37:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.172]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419013716.SBDJ2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:37:16 -0400 Message-ID: <426460C8.2000707@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:37:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504181446700338cb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504181446700338cb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>I don't know whether it is or isn't required in Mississippi. >> >> >How can you not know? Do you pay attention to local news? > > I pay attention to some local news. But I don't remember having ever paid attention to news about whether car insurance is required. Speaking of local news, I'm glad I went to the debate last night since apparently a tv screw-up made the televising of it not very satisfactory. This story in today's paper does a pretty good job of covering it -- the that I think I mentioned last night: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050418/NEWS0103/504180323/1002 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 21:11:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J2AvWm029799 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:11:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:11:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F3A1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:10:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 163413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:10:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J2Atq0018430 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:10:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so22985nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.4 with SMTP id h4mr442367nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:10:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lS9214ZR8tUH0xm3gTNrgSCN7HmIyEVOXtEQC013kM3lYVIIJfktOmQyP1xeNEekmcJ1A2ZZ0nqFopZneIFo+KWGakNkBm+J/B/QdbTRkCRQxMJBuv9de/85H4uFqSPOmofpfpqwCypb80Ixm0Upyj1LU+wmYA0MY6bnBorO6eA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504181910436fad1c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:10:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dogwood winter In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3J2AvWm029799 On 4/18/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > It's here - and dogwoods rule. They are absolutely spectacular this year, > especially in Sequoyah Hills, where they are everywhere. Dogwoods are weird. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 21:19:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J2JZWm030703 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:19:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:19:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F3A3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:19:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 163671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:19:28 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J2JSD6019288 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:19:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.172]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419021928.CCJJ2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:19:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42646AAA.7090603@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:19:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dogwood winter References: <8ddfc8a70504181910436fad1c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504181910436fad1c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>It's here - and dogwoods rule. They are absolutely spectacular this year, >>especially in Sequoyah Hills, where they are everywhere. >> >> > >Dogwoods are weird. > > In what way are dogwoods weird? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 21:27:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J2QqWm031401 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:26:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:27:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3B4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:26:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 163916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:26:51 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J2QoVf020155 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:26:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.172]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419022650.CGSG2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:26:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42646C65.1030609@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:26:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Security Services Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At tonight's SOFO meeting/party (SOFO = So Fondren, which strikes me as kind of corny), somebody made a pitch encouraging more people to pay the $30 a month to Securitas for patroling the area, saying that the more people who paid, the heavier the coverage -- as in the cruising around was more frequent -- and saying that if you paid, you got services like Securitas people walking around your yard X number of times a day if you were out of town and shining flashlights all around your house in the dark if you were out of town. Ok, so I'm wondering about something. One thing is that I see Securitas cars cruising my street a zillion times every day and night, so I think the coverage is heavy enough -- this street has only about five houses on it and is on the way to nowhere -- as in nobody would drive down this street except related to one of the few houses on it. But that isn't the something I'm wondering about. What I'm wondering about is why having Securitas people tromping around your yard and shining flashlights around your house at night wouldn't be a bad thing instead of a good thing. Seems to me that any burglar with walking-around sense would know if witnessing such activity that you were out of town and that it was a prime time to break into your house as soon as the Securitas people left. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 22:22:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J3MYWm005522 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:22:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:22:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3DDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:22:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:22:33 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J3MWCn028225 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:22:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218ECBE8C1 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050418043959f5dbfc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Jesus died so that we would know when to plant tomatoes X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:22:19 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Weird Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 4:39 AM -0700 4/18/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I started listening to "Angels and Demons" by Dan Brown this weekend. It's a >very long book, and formulaic as all his books are. I didn't realize when I >started listening to it that it's about a papal conclave--it's giving me a >weird sense of deja vu and insiderliness. > >One interesting thing that he keeps saying is that all recent papal >decisions have been a lock before the conclave, so the conclave itself has >merely been pro forma, rather than a real conclave. I have no idea whether >this is true or not, of course. Based on my reading of _Digital Fortress_, Dan Brown wouldn't know a fact if bit him in the tuchis. Or perhaps he would know, but if he has a choice between a fact and some weird urban legend that he pulled out of some deep corner of his ass, you know which one he's going to choose. It is true that in the last 200 years, no conclave has lasted more than 5 days. Then again, for the last 200 years, as long as the conclave is in session, a whole bunch of 60- and 70-year-olds had to live with each other in close proximity, and in makeshift quarters, on a 24-7 basis, snoring and chamber pots and all. So maybe it's no surprise that they've wanted to finish it up and get the heck out of there. And surely these guys all know each other. Don't you know most of your direct and indirect peers at work? So they must have a good idea, going into the conclave, whose names are likely to be on the ballots and who has the numbers. Ken Miller Parker School of Literary Criticism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 22:44:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J3iDWm008001 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:44:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:44:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F3D04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:44:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:44:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J3iBqr030596 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:44:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so38167nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr447750nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:44:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ay58YfIpXnnPq3EFfDat+A+ePZYFjGqCW6WSTzSZDqj7FCm6H2itoy8UzAQ24FHxkot7llzPbNyTZToW+j9o0yJs3B59c+er+xRXitUi9Jgu3HOplJUZBPqEZC9Rn5bCL3lkfmjilPGuzgJBNZjHes+XFV1rvT+YwES3lauOdVY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041820441d895b53@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:44:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050418043959f5dbfc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3J3iDWm008001 On 4/18/05, Bookrat wrote: > > Based on my reading of _Digital Fortress_, Dan Brown wouldn't know a fact > if bit him in the tuchis. Hahaha. That book SOOOOOOOOOOOOO sucked. Especially the first part. I think he started paying for research after that. Or perhaps he would know, but if he has a choice > between a fact and some weird urban legend that he pulled out of some deep > corner of his ass, you know which one he's going to choose. His ass, every time. > And surely these guys all know each other. Don't you know most of your > direct and indirect peers at work? So they must have a good idea, going > into the conclave, whose names are likely to be on the ballots and who has > the numbers. > Ah, I work with a lot of people remotely--and I haven't met them. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 22:46:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J3jvWm008231 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:46:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:46:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F3E06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:45:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:45:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J3jtO8030875 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:45:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so38486nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr448535nzb; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:45:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HudsSYqaKagkBohq6FBieqSlw/RxNNsEIJKu9IkYn4lzBwgqfGB0BlfTbMyyaMjPXYrrMtxubXfzIBjwC/rmcsQft5K+mqK0hNvdUUSYKWLpct1ThrzXecNTA2FSA4Fqz0QikPjpA8khEnVA5ujTs0m7a80hkHQDsxeyZlBBESg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041820453bf80885@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:45:53 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: dogwood winter In-Reply-To: <42646AAA.7090603@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70504181910436fad1c@mail.gmail.com> <42646AAA.7090603@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3J3jvWm008231 On 4/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>It's here - and dogwoods rule. They are absolutely spectacular this > year, > >>especially in Sequoyah Hills, where they are everywhere. > >> > >> > > > >Dogwoods are weird. > > > > > In what way are dogwoods weird? > I forget. Their petals aren't really petals. Are they sepals? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 22:49:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J3nZWm008665 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:49:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:49:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F3D10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:49:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:49:34 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J3nYEJ031159 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:49:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16724352 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:02:49 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.174.96]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:49:53 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:49:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57530, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/18/2005, 3:30 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I didn't mention it. It was either Dan or Alan, I NM> think. Alan. I NM> remember now. I don't know whether it is or isn't NM> required in Mississippi. On February 23, 2000, Mississippi Gov. Ronnie Musgrove signed House Bill 621, establishing a compulsory automobile liability insurance system for Mississippi. Beginning January 1, 2001, Mississippi law requires that all drivers maintain liability insurance and carry a card in their vehicles at all times showing that you have liability insurance From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 18 22:53:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J3rOWm009203 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:53:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:53:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F3EF2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:53:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:53:24 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J3rNu9031566 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:53:23 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16850145 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:00:43 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.174.96]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:53:42 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:53:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <436404265.20050418215322@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Security Services In-Reply-To: <42646C65.1030609@maynor.net> References: <42646C65.1030609@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=69851, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/18/2005, 8:26 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> At tonight's SOFO meeting/party (SOFO = So Fondren, NM> which strikes me as NM> kind of corny), They're trying to do a take off on SoHo and SoMa and others from big cities. Boise is doing it with BoDo. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 00:19:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J5J4Wm019953 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:19:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:19:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F15566@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 1:19:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:19:03 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J5J2mo010248 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:19:03 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3J5J1MU028260 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:19:01 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3J5J1W4028255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:19:01 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:19:00 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tom Snyder Message-ID: <20050419051900.GA28219@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200504182120.j3ILKFkn010808@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a7050418143025a1c500@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050418143025a1c500@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > > = > >Btw, what does it take to be feverish? = > Intense excitement about something. = > = > >Is it only one degree? = > Ohhhh, "feverish"! = > = > I call it "low-grade fever" below 101. = = = I went to a doctor a while back and he told me I was feverish at 99.7. = That's why I asked. Feverish is how you feel, whether you're running a temperature higher than normal for you or not. I'll stick with the definition of over 100 as classified as fever, fine. But that doesn't change how you feel. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 01:41:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J6fVWm028739 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:41:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:41:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F40C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 2:41:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:41:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3J6fTxl018470 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:41:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2455834nzp for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.20 with SMTP id a20mr234721nzc; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:41:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=M1uu7f/RV2AQgeV84tELez+4M/htwNNIwOGs3DkjLn0F43NX+LsrgF0DyqRY1LHUgRRjCqlPV6S3wx+372rxZywPpUyt8IKpMJ3rzigpZZvwoloydjiRoC6U/+7CJ6M/36olhCYTv7W/+aBvHr9AssiiN6Nq4I1UeGuVde8QJRM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041823416506efc8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:41:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tom Snyder In-Reply-To: <20050419051900.GA28219@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504182120.j3ILKFkn010808@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a7050418143025a1c500@mail.gmail.com> <20050419051900.GA28219@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3J6fVWm028739 On 4/19/05, steph wrote: > > = > > > = > >Btw, what does it take to be feverish? > = > Intense excitement about something. > = > > = > >Is it only one degree? > = > Ohhhh, "feverish"! > = > > = > I call it "low-grade fever" below 101. > = > = > = I went to a doctor a while back and he told me I was feverish at 99.7. > = That's why I asked. > > Feverish is how you feel, whether you're running a temperature higher > than normal for you or not. I'll stick with the definition of over 100 > as classified as fever, fine. But that doesn't change how you feel. > Well, the doctor asked me if I had a fever, and I said no. He took my temperature, and it was 99.7, and he said that was high enough to be feverish. Which is what prompted my question. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 02:06:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3J75mWm031728 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:05:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:06:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F40E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 3:05:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 03:05:47 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3J75jX8020598 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 03:05:46 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041909041015636 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:04:10 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:05:46 +0200 Message-ID: <4264ADC7.7040001@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:05:43 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are References: <42619AAF.8060004@maynor.net> <517751043.20050418090630@gailndan.com> <567790892.20050418095735@gailndan.com> <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4263DD59.2070805@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2005 07:05:46.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[3580F810:01C544AE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv skrev 18.04.2005 18:16: > Dan Lester wrote: > >> and then go home to mow my grass if it doesn't >> rain. >> > I see, some people have grass to mow. Well, in North Estonia the flowers > Gagea silvatica (pl.: Gageae silvaticae?) (Wald-Goldstern, close to > yellow star of Bethlehem) budded overnight -- so, with have _something_. > (Noticed them in a park in Tallinn on Sunday, at a place where there > seemed to be nothing special on Saturday.) > Here we have lots now of what used to be Anemone hepatica (I believe the taxonomic people now have separated what used to be Anemone hepatica and Anemone nemorosa so that at least one of them os no longe Anemone), and further up, closer to the snow still lying there are Tussilago farfara. And of course there are the garden flowers, crocuses and such. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 05:25:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JAOlWm026928 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:24:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:25:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F43FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 6:24:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 186931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:24:46 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JAOkXO005217 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:24:46 -0400 Received: from [151.204.251.74] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.3]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 93621351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:24:40 -0400 Message-ID: <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:26:26 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > On February 23, 2000, Mississippi Gov. Ronnie Musgrove > signed House Bill 621, establishing a compulsory automobile > liability insurance system for Mississippi. Beginning > January 1, 2001, Mississippi law requires that all drivers > maintain liability insurance and carry a card in their > vehicles at all times showing that you have liability > insurance In Massachusetts, one cannot register a car without evidence of insurance. Then, if the premium is not paid on time, the insurance company sends a notice of cancellation to the owner and to the Registry of Motor Vehicles. Unless payment is made within (I think) 21 days, the Registry respectfully requests that you turn in your plates (tags, if that is what you call them). Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 07:06:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JC63Wm006176 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:06:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:06:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F16925@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 8:06:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 211432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:06:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JC62Zn009365 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:06:03 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so139704nzp for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr477876nzb; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:06:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ChqW+VhNmid6Zc/nvdVj2Ty/sLaZimSJ8fPAYLYPOm/2UANtqwDaFU/yLU8uotRb6cTKx/hEnk142VepWQAPHK+8d0xuFlb5EsrosJ0xuly7K9D2dkesvAdEtPoRFMnPxFSkAaI13YReyf7kUUf/wrOXiITRkwek8kklgNPXjXg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041905061fff3869@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:06:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Q for P Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JC63Wm006176 I know that the popophile will know... They burn the ballots for black smoke. What do they burn for white smoke? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 07:23:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JCNXWm008230 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:23:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:23:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F16950@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 8:13:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 211973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:13:32 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JCDVrV010521 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:13:32 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:13:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:13:11 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Q for P Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There are two adjacent stoves that connect to one chimney. In one stove they burn the ballots and the other stove burns chemicals that color the smoke. In th old days, they added straw to the burning ballots to create the white smoke, but it was less of a difference and often caused confusion about the message. Even with the additives it can be difficult to tell which color the smoke is sometimes and so this time they have added the ringing of bells to signal "habemus papam" BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/19/2005 8:06:01 AM >>> I know that the popophile will know... They burn the ballots for black smoke. What do they burn for white smoke? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 07:24:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JCOSWm008310 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:24:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:24:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F50D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 8:24:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 212995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:24:27 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JCORKS011848 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:24:27 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2048087wra for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.42.15 with SMTP id p15mr461636wrp; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:24:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Gn1hIRUxobOq1WNOLQI5E8RVqEjNY6Pf5U04ihcFklQPj2rQRWaxr7n5nCuzAKbQvy0DYi5reDBFz5EoKb5KP6SkQRtpVFSkpqOmV93zSDhpAqMh0dhYB6IziZNXNLxt2xoBKDO+UAdpTdKoDowilao1835wSZxZEUXygF41kfk= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:24:27 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JCOSWm008310 > > In Massachusetts, one cannot register a car without evidence of > insurance. Then, if the premium is not paid on time, the insurance > company sends a notice of cancellation to the owner and to the Registry > of Motor Vehicles. Unless payment is made within (I think) 21 days, > the Registry respectfully requests that you turn in your plates (tags, > if that is what you call them). --Rita L. > I'm pretty sure that is the way it is in Maine. Maine and Massachusetts seem to do many things similarly. Probably because Maine was once part of Massachusetts. I think we are the only two states that celebrate Patriots Day. How was the marathon yesterday? -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 07:25:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JCPSWm008468 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:25:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:25:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F52A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 8:25:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:25:27 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JCPRBo012098 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:25:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.145.124]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419122525.JCBA2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:25:25 -0400 Message-ID: <4264F8B2.2080702@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:25:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > I don't know whether it is or isn't >NM> required in Mississippi. > >On February 23, 2000, Mississippi Gov. Ronnie Musgrove >signed House Bill 621, establishing a compulsory automobile >liability insurance system for Mississippi. Beginning >January 1, 2001, Mississippi law requires that all drivers >maintain liability insurance and carry a card in their >vehicles at all times showing that you have liability >insurance > > Thanks. What's the url? The only document I have that shows I have liability insurance is a the policy itself, which stays in a drawer in my house. I've always had little State Farm cards with the name of my agent, though. I found the following last night right before turning off the computer: ************ Mississippi is a tort state, which means that if you are a resident of the state, you're financially responsible for the damage and injury you cause in an auto accident. To drive a vehicle in Mississippi, you're required to show proof of financial responsibility. You can prove this responsibility by posting a bond or certificate of deposit for $25,000, or by buying a minimum amount of liability coverage. Most drivers opt to buy the Mississippi car insurance. ************* from: http://www.autoinsuranceindepth.com/auto-insurance-Mississippi.html Interesting stuff. I don't know what posting a bond or certificate of deposit means. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 07:36:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JCaHWm009896 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:36:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:36:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F169B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 8:26:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:26:15 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JCQFhM012290 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:26:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.145.124]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419122613.JCWL2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:26:13 -0400 Message-ID: <4264F8E2.6040106@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:26:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Security Services References: <42646C65.1030609@maynor.net> <436404265.20050418215322@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <436404265.20050418215322@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> At tonight's SOFO meeting/party (SOFO = So Fondren, >NM> which strikes me as >NM> kind of corny), > >They're trying to do a take off on SoHo and SoMa and others from big > > I know. That's what strikes me as corny. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 07:36:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JCaUWm009910 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:36:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:36:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F52C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 8:29:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:28:59 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JCSwwL012737 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:28:58 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:28:58 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:28:39 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Q for P Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What? You mean you don't have the Vatican chimney cam open on your desktop all day? BrP >>> bonniemaev@GMAIL.COM 4/19/2005 8:26:28 AM >>> Yes, they broke into yesterday afternoon's soap operas to tell us all about that and show the picture of the smoke over and over again. It was even annoying on fast forward. Grrrr. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 07:36:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JCaUWm009914 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:36:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:36:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5168@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 8:36:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 214560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:36:03 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JCa3f4014287 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:36:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.145.124]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419123601.JMAF2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:36:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4264FB28.8070604@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:35:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264F8B2.2080702@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4264F8B2.2080702@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor quoted: > To drive a vehicle in Mississippi, you're > required to show proof of financial responsibility. I meant to say when I quoted this that "required" suggests to me providing this proof before being allowed to drive. But I've been driving in Mississippi since March 17, 1958 (since March 16 was on a Sunday that year) -- with my own driver's license, I mean -- obviously I was driving before that accompanied by a parent or somebody -- and have never had to show any proof of financial responsibility. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 07:36:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JCaUWm009912 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:36:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:36:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F50EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 8:26:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:26:28 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JCQSRU012341 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:26:28 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2048535wra for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.104.13 with SMTP id b13mr3309824wrc; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:26:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oTuCEYMkurRMfve+EY/mbyV7WksQcvO86gEbiAQn9ZdigMr/jtCL1H5DZzdC/ixDYRmP3/SKbFTRifKAxIlW9A+EBmsyysG3RtqrPUhtEgxGC+kIduAfUEpdXwACbtkSLnGIwV+TwDN7s4dg31zEi+GaFSvLykh1GySJ8WC2F1k= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:26:28 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for P In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JCaUWm009912 > > Even with the additives it can be > difficult to tell which color the smoke is sometimes and so this time > they have added the ringing of bells to signal "habemus papam" > BrP Yes, they broke into yesterday afternoon's soap operas to tell us all about that and show the picture of the smoke over and over again. It was even annoying on fast forward. Grrrr. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 07:47:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JClBWm010874 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:47:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:47:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F16B6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 8:47:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:47:10 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JCl9Sd017244 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:47:09 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-150.gwi.net [216.195.166.150]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3JCl47G078063; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:47:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050419082432.01beb558@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:31:42 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a7050418043959f5dbfc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:22 PM 4/18/2005, Bookrat wrote: >And surely these guys all know each other. Don't you know most of your >direct and indirect peers at work? So they must have a good idea, going >into the conclave, whose names are likely to be on the ballots and who has >the numbers. With the number of new cardinals that JPII created---especially in the non-European areas---it is likely that, yes, they are acquainted, but not to the extent that they all know one another well enough to know each one's views on how the church ought to proceed. From what I've read so far, it seems that this time the "platform" that may be more important than the individual. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 08:28:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JDSUWm015228 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:28:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:28:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F16DB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:28:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:28:29 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JDST32024819 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:28:29 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16748104 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:41:48 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:28:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:28:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18210114678.20050419072827@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for P In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041905061fff3869@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041905061fff3869@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57600, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 6:06 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I know that the popophile will know... They burn the ballots for black AFoA> smoke. What do they burn for white smoke? The ballots. They add something to make the smoke black. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 08:33:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JDXlWm015788 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:33:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:33:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F16DA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:33:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:33:47 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JDXkhp026311 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:33:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:33:46 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:33:11 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Q for P Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/vaticancam.htm or http://tinyurl.com/cchpu right now it is showing St P Sq. but when vote results are imminent they zoom in on the chimney BrP >>> bonniemaev@GMAIL.COM 4/19/2005 9:28:26 AM >>> > > What? You mean you don't have the Vatican chimney cam open on your > desktop all day? > > BrP Is there really such a thing?? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 08:34:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JDYMWm015824 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:34:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:34:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F16DAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:34:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:34:22 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JDYLLx026479 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:34:21 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16960735 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:58:00 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:34:39 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:34:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1215258078.20050419073417@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Security Services In-Reply-To: <4264F8E2.6040106@maynor.net> References: <42646C65.1030609@maynor.net> <436404265.20050418215322@gailndan.com> <4264F8E2.6040106@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 168, in=59267, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 6:26 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>NM> At tonight's SOFO meeting/party (SOFO = So Fondren, >>NM> which strikes me as >>NM> kind of corny), >> >>They're trying to do a take off on SoHo and SoMa and others from big >> >> NM> I know. That's what strikes me as corny. Agree completely. Stupid. And corny. But the world seems to be amazingly short of creativity. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 08:38:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JDc1Wm016211 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:38:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:38:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F55AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:30:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:30:14 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JDUDWo025273 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:30:13 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16748249 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:43:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:30:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:30:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <551752271.20050419073011@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57603, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 6:24 AM, bonniemaev wrote: b> I'm pretty sure that is the way it is in Maine. Maine and Massachusetts b> seem to do many things similarly. Probably because Maine was once part of b> Massachusetts. I think we are the only two states that celebrate Patriots b> Day. How was the marathon yesterday? Right. Each April, Massachusetts and Maine celebrate Patriots Day in honor of the battles and skirmishes that began our fight for independence. This year, Patriots Day is April 20 - except in Concord, where they'll celebrate it on the real day: April 19. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 08:38:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JDc1Wm016209 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:38:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:38:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F55D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:35:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:35:37 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JDZbmJ026822 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:35:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16748811 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:48:56 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:35:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:35:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1618412310.20050419073535@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <4264FB28.8070604@maynor.net> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264F8B2.2080702@maynor.net> <4264FB28.8070604@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57605, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 6:35 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But I've been NM> driving in Mississippi since March 17, 1958 (since March 16 was on a NM> Sunday that year) -- with my own driver's license, I mean -- obviously I NM> was driving before that accompanied by a parent or somebody -- and have NM> never had to show any proof of financial responsibility. Apparently you've not been stopped for a traffic violation in MS since it went into effect four years ago. Which is a good thing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 08:38:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JDc1Wm016210 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:38:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:38:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F55A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:27:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:27:59 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JDRxfH024694 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:27:59 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16939523 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:28:20 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:28:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:27:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1195563949.20050419072757@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 170, in=56541, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 4:26 AM, Rita Leonard wrote: RL> In Massachusetts, one cannot register a car without evidence of RL> insurance. Then, if the premium is not paid on time, the insurance RL> company sends a notice of cancellation to the owner and to the Registry RL> of Motor Vehicles. Unless payment is made within (I think) 21 days, RL> the Registry respectfully requests that you turn in your plates (tags, RL> if that is what you call them). Same is true for many other states, in fact ID, NM, CO, NE, MN, and IL that I've lived in. And if you're caught driving without insurance it is a major ticket. When the officer stops you s/he wants to see your drivers license, registration, and insurance card. Lacking any of them will get you a ticket. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 08:38:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JDc1Wm016212 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:38:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:38:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F55A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:28:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:28:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JDSQgm024806 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:28:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2067132wra for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.48 with SMTP id v48mr3428010wrv; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:28:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=i8YPPHSfwhWmFdPcNa9QOaZH+e6eju5OlZ3epzS2+aGw6CpuTDPb3eBla1AmbzlaNZzlmdveXcECiAHBpOL+q/4NkJYEZ8rGY0oS17nyVFvZConvNCrRS3RIPilb1cjRXMoquMz+hH0mzu/bJ+mqGQ6zr6OqxKp65uZu7NagYkM= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:28:26 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for P In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JDc1Wm016212 > > What? You mean you don't have the Vatican chimney cam open on your > desktop all day? > > BrP Is there really such a thing?? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 08:38:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JDc1Wm016208 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:38:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:38:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5503@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:33:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:33:42 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JDXfx0026271 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:33:41 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16872987 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:41:05 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:34:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:33:39 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1229787659.20050419073339@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <4264F8B2.2080702@maynor.net> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264F8B2.2080702@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=69917, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 6:25 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> from: NM> http://www.autoinsuranceindepth.com/auto-insurance-Mississippi.html NM> Interesting stuff. I don't know what posting a bond or certificate of NM> deposit means. I also have state farm. every six months they mail me two new cards, thin plastic, credit card size, that I can keep in wallet or car. Do the same for each car...two cards per car (the two cars renew on different dates). They come stuck with rubber cement or similar to a piece of paper in an envelope. You might wish to add your State Farm agent about this. Posting a bond means just that. You can go to a person who will write bonds, pay him/her a fee and they'll cover the bond in case it is needed. Sort of like bonding out of jail, though done in advance. Or like being bonded for various professions that require security. A certificate of deposit proves that you've got the money in the bank to cover the amount required. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 08:48:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JDmXWm017333 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:48:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:48:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5419@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:38:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 222162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:38:32 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JDcWw0027628 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:38:32 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16749105 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:51:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:38:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:38:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <408733644.20050419073830@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Q for P In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57607, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 7:28 AM, bonniemaev wrote: >> What? You mean you don't have the Vatican chimney cam open on your >> desktop all day? >> >> BrP b> Is there really such a thing?? Well, other than CNN, I don't see that there is such a thing. But discussion of it at http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Vatican_20Chimney dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:12:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JECBWm020149 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:12:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:12:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F55E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:02:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 224508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:02:09 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JE29dU032569 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:02:09 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-150.gwi.net [216.195.166.150]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3JE237G086622; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:02:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050419094630.01c13a70@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:49:05 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <551752271.20050419073011@gailndan.com> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> <551752271.20050419073011@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:30 AM 4/19/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >4/19/2005, 6:24 AM, bonniemaev wrote: > >b> I'm pretty sure that is the way it is in Maine. Maine and Massachusetts >b> seem to do many things similarly. Probably because Maine was once part of >b> Massachusetts. I think we are the only two states that celebrate Patriots >b> Day. How was the marathon yesterday? > >Right. > >Each April, Massachusetts and Maine celebrate Patriots Day in honor of the >battles and skirmishes that began our fight for independence. This year, >Patriots >Day is April 20 - except in Concord, where they'll celebrate it on the >real day: >April 19. In Boston, at least, and probably all of Maine, it was observed yesterday. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:12:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JECMWm020181 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:12:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:12:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F16F32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:02:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 224521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:02:11 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JE2AmX032574 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:02:10 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-150.gwi.net [216.195.166.150]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3JE237H086622; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:02:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050419094954.01c0c058@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:52:22 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Q for P In-Reply-To: <18210114678.20050419072827@gailndan.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041905061fff3869@mail.gmail.com> <18210114678.20050419072827@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:28 AM 4/19/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >4/19/2005, 6:06 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >AFoA> I know that the popophile will know... They burn the ballots for black >AFoA> smoke. What do they burn for white smoke? > >The ballots. They add something to make the smoke black. In both cases, the ballots are burned. As Paul has noted (see, Paul, some people read your stuff), the traditon has been that dry straw was burned with the ballots to produced white smoke; wet straw was burned with them to produce black smoke. As Paul has also noted, they now also burn chemicals to enhance the color of the smoke that the eager multitude may more easily discern it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:12:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JECMWm020179 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:12:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:12:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F17018@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:05:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 226337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:04:53 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JE4qBA001101 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:04:52 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16751993 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:18:12 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:05:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:04:51 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1088047562.20050419080451@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050419094630.01c13a70@pop.gwi.net> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600AB9.4010505@maynor.net> <043101c541eb$91f0bb00$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <42600E87.70908@maynor.net> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> <551752271.20050419073011@gailndan.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050419094630.01c13a70@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57625, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 7:49 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >>Each April, Massachusetts and Maine celebrate Patriots Day in honor of the >>battles and skirmishes that began our fight for independence. This year, >>Patriots >>Day is April 20 - except in Concord, where they'll celebrate it on the >>real day: >>April 19. cwv> In Boston, at least, and probably all of Maine, it was observed yesterday. Isn't that just what the quote above said? Everywhere but Concord? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:12:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JECMWm020180 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:12:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:12:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F17060@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:06:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 226888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:06:40 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JE6enj001570 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:06:40 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16752207 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:19:59 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:07:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:06:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <8210671400.20050419080638@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Q for P In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050419094954.01c0c058@pop.gwi.net> References: <8ddfc8a705041905061fff3869@mail.gmail.com> <18210114678.20050419072827@gailndan.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050419094954.01c0c058@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57626, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 7:52 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >>The ballots. They add something to make the smoke black. cwv> In both cases, the ballots are burned. As Paul has noted (see, Paul, some cwv> people read your stuff), the traditon has been that dry straw was burned cwv> with the ballots to produced white smoke; wet straw was burned with them to cwv> produce black smoke. As Paul has also noted, they now also burn chemicals cwv> to enhance the color of the smoke that the eager multitude may more easily cwv> discern it. Right. And my response preceded Paul's, at least in my mail. And indeed something is added. And yesterday they must have added chemicals or whatever slowly, as it was white at first, and then turned black...causing confusion and consternation (and tears from some) when it turned black. As it it would have been settled on one ballot. There's the question for whoever....has it ever been settled on one ballot? If so, when? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:21:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JELgWm021311 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:21:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:21:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F17203@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:21:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 230082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:21:42 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JELfmA005196 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:21:41 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1819598wri for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.73.16 with SMTP id v16mr806096wra; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:21:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AWkd/1ioBhGXDIMUjh1wsTx38fA5k1Tpr8PnihXRvcCVIJb+eZDyZB0GMdyR8O5+sUnXCLzC3F8dLDE7zo/WsnSnGv5LOLgpXhBilApPUxOCRAG7sAsfVaWii1jfLmNZMyW/xOLU/MjNpn03BN0JD1eiQLYdZcrbo6zSR/v8kg0= Message-ID: <83db447a0504190721755f738c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:21:40 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <1088047562.20050419080451@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> <551752271.20050419073011@gailndan.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050419094630.01c13a70@pop.gwi.net> <1088047562.20050419080451@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JELgWm021311 On 4/19/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/19/2005, 7:49 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > >>Each April, Massachusetts and Maine celebrate Patriots Day in honor of > the > >>battles and skirmishes that began our fight for independence. This year, > >>Patriots > >>Day is April 20 - except in Concord, where they'll celebrate it on the > >>real day: > >>April 19. > > cwv> In Boston, at least, and probably all of Maine, it was observed > yesterday. > > Isn't that just what the quote above said? Everywhere but Concord? And yesterday was the 18th, dumbbell---or does time move differently in Boise? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:32:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JEWCWm022316 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:32:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:32:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5965@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:32:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:32:11 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JEWASE008066 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:32:11 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:32:10 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:31:38 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Q for P Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There isn't a simple question to that. Several of the Popes have named their own successor for instance. But since the current system of selection was set up by the Second Council of Lyons under Gregory X (1274) and Gregory X's "Ubi periculum majus" (his election had taken 2 years and 9 months and people were so outraged that he revised the rules to prevent another such fiasco) I'm reasonably sure none has been selected on a single ballot. I'll have to do some checking and see if I can answer that one. BrP >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/19/2005 10:06:38 AM >>> There's the question for whoever....has it ever been settled on one ballot? If so, when? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:42:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JEftWm023652 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:42:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:42:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5B14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:41:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:41:54 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JEfsvB010791 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:41:54 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:41:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:41:41 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: next smoke Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU is expected around 1 pm EDT. I was just reading that the smoke is a fairly new tradition - begun in 1914. I had always assumed it was older than that. I wonder how the announcement was made before that. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:44:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JEiEWm024006 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:44:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:44:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5B2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:44:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:44:13 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JEiDIe011616 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:44:13 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16756753 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:57:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:44:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:44:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1023831977.20050419084411@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <83db447a0504190721755f738c@mail.gmail.com> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> <551752271.20050419073011@gailndan.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050419094630.01c13a70@pop.gwi.net> <1088047562.20050419080451@gailndan.com> <83db447a0504190721755f738c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57656, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 8:21 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> Isn't that just what the quote above said? Everywhere but Concord? CV> And yesterday was the 18th, dumbbell---or does time move differently in CV> Boise? Oh...that clip must have been from a previous year. Mea culpa. I never have any clue what day or date it is. I don't even usually even know what time it is. Neither bragging or complaining....just the way I am. Fortunately I have people who know such things and keep track of them for me. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:56:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JEu8Wm025166 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:56:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:56:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5AA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:50:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:50:18 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JEoIgL013007 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:50:18 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:50:18 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:49:51 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: next smoke Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Twice a day, at 10 am and 4 pm local time they take two votes (i.e. a total of 4 votes per day) about 3 hours later the ballots are burned. BrP >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/19/2005 10:46:05 AM >>> Any special reason they expect smoke at certain times? Is there a schedule, or is there just an "average time" that it takes for a discussion and ballot? Assume that one will be the last of the day, as will be late in day in Rome? dan 4/19/2005, 8:41 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> is expected around 1 pm EDT. PB> I was just reading that the smoke is a fairly new tradition - begun in PB> 1914. I had always assumed it was older than that. I wonder how the PB> announcement was made before that. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:56:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JEu8Wm025165 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:56:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:56:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F598B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:46:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:46:07 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JEk7uZ012120 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:46:07 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 16970056 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:09:48 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:46:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:46:05 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <388567184.20050419084605@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next smoke In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 168, in=59311, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Any special reason they expect smoke at certain times? Is there a schedule, or is there just an "average time" that it takes for a discussion and ballot? Assume that one will be the last of the day, as will be late in day in Rome? dan 4/19/2005, 8:41 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> is expected around 1 pm EDT. PB> I was just reading that the smoke is a fairly new tradition - begun in PB> 1914. I had always assumed it was older than that. I wonder how the PB> announcement was made before that. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:57:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JEvXWm025347 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:57:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:57:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5BAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:57:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:57:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JEvVAp014785 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:57:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2598702nzp for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.19 with SMTP id j19mr495176nzb; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Hykk1cdaxTzyqpuAYX4AMS4dhCwzH6iUruU3oDEv8ziBZABnV2omBAgWQfp4dsmWFvnTgxR6SQf1iNRxTE6nbsuiMPMsbe7u6d62xw8YoeG6vYCYnwG73v7uhQo3O8y/t7US3qcXlZTNzQL6iZ0Dmp/2EbtFPCbWlW4ACb1DGbA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504190757d053268@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:57:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next smoke In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JEvXWm025347 On 4/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I was just reading that the smoke is a fairly new tradition - begun in > 1914. I had always assumed it was older than that. I wonder how the > announcement was made before that. Release of doves? -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 09:57:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JEvWWm025345 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:57:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:57:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F59E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:57:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:57:31 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JEvRhq014763 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:57:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16882841 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:04:52 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:57:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:57:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <123700285.20050419085726@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: next smoke In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=69958, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 8:49 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> Twice a day, at 10 am and 4 pm local time they take two votes (i.e. a PB> total of 4 votes per day) about 3 hours later the ballots are burned. Interesting. From reading the official rules on the Vatican site it sounds like they burn them right after the vote is "certified" (or whatever their exact term is). And I didn't think from that that there was an schedule or limit on number of votes per day. And why two at the same time? Maybe I'm just confused and need to go back to bed? Oh, I think this is Tuesday, so think I have a meeting to go to...will have to check my calendar. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:05:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JF5jWm026285 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:05:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:05:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F17552@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:05:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:05:45 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JF5inN016661 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:05:45 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-150.gwi.net [216.195.166.150]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3JF5e0o091848; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:05:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050419110446.01c1a388@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:05:28 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Women from Texas... In-Reply-To: <1023831977.20050419084411@gailndan.com> References: <037601c541cd$c55377d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4263840D.4060505@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504180434545225fe@mail.gmail.com> <4264270D.2030801@maynor.net> <751695255.20050418214929@gailndan.com> <4264DCD2.6070906@bc.edu> <551752271.20050419073011@gailndan.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050419094630.01c13a70@pop.gwi.net> <1088047562.20050419080451@gailndan.com> <83db447a0504190721755f738c@mail.gmail.com> <1023831977.20050419084411@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:44 AM 4/19/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >.. Mea culpa. Pax Domine sic semper vobiscum. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:12:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFC4Wm026747 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:12:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:12:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F175FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:12:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:12:02 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFBxQE018107 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:11:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:11:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:11:24 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Q for P Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They can but they don't necessarily. I suspect that JPII was motivated to make changes by the experience of his own election. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/19/2005 11:02:33 AM >>> Does every Pope set the rules for their own succession? I was surprised how much influence JPII has had on this one. On 4/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > There isn't a simple question to that. Several of the Popes have named > their own successor for instance. But since the current system of > selection was set up by the Second Council of Lyons under Gregory X > (1274) and Gregory X's "Ubi periculum majus" (his election had taken 2 > years and 9 months and people were so outraged that he revised the rules > to prevent another such fiasco) I'm reasonably sure none has been > selected on a single ballot. I'll have to do some checking and see if I > can answer that one. > > BrP > > >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/19/2005 10:06:38 AM >>> > There's the question for whoever....has it ever been settled on one > ballot? If so, when? > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:12:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFCbWm026807 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:12:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:12:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5A1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:02:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:02:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JF2YXA015935 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:02:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so154796nzk for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.5 with SMTP id l5mr496191nzc; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:02:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=in0iJ+pAxr9Da2nfjXRTU0pB+jxGgq3167DTJLf0W7dQog7TxTbSxpGzB/9ZXaZRrJKghnYH+d1UX09hM1wcvoDst+pl/y96YL6+5SJ9LKNTfK0VTs1ByP/zTDpFALnlhX/CPY+l4wOw9xtbI7KB3Fp7aRNcoUYQQguwCRgTbBs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050419080260723688@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:02:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for P In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JFCbWm026807 Does every Pope set the rules for their own succession? I was surprised how much influence JPII has had on this one. On 4/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > There isn't a simple question to that. Several of the Popes have named > their own successor for instance. But since the current system of > selection was set up by the Second Council of Lyons under Gregory X > (1274) and Gregory X's "Ubi periculum majus" (his election had taken 2 > years and 9 months and people were so outraged that he revised the rules > to prevent another such fiasco) I'm reasonably sure none has been > selected on a single ballot. I'll have to do some checking and see if I > can answer that one. > > BrP > > >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/19/2005 10:06:38 AM >>> > There's the question for whoever....has it ever been settled on one > ballot? If so, when? > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:15:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFFCWm027107 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:15:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:15:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5A9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:15:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:15:11 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFFAJL018730 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:15:10 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.188]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419151510.XATF22125.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:15:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.188]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050419151509.KNHI1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:15:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42652077.5050705@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:15:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next smoke References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Twice a day, at 10 am and 4 pm local time they take two votes (i.e. a > > I guess the two of the two votes substitutes for 2 pm, to make it like the Dr. Pepper man. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:20:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFKVWm027598 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:20:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:20:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5BDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:20:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:20:31 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFKVI7020052 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:20:31 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:20:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:20:00 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: next smoke Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have read and reread and rereread this sentence and I can't make it make any sense. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/19/2005 11:15:03 AM >>> I guess the two of the two votes substitutes for 2 pm, to make it like the Dr. Pepper man. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:23:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFNOWm027830 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:23:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:23:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5BF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:23:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:23:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFNIgO020734 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:23:19 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2107009wra for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.104.13 with SMTP id b13mr3499969wrc; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:23:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=paBOCmwwpZYGqxmvA07vqKpjJTBnl7U354SkULES6/T1k9CUT66k3lJOwbNRASAwNZwHQhKLok6w0AvynvTGRQXJ6Qbafo/QduKfdpfngik2Sk/CYIRR79G21yZNjIS2RBLSznsj+Sbh/NVEUABfDVHt4PAxzJgr3OWz6392e5k= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:23:14 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next smoke In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JFNOWm027830 Did you know that there was a pope for 33 days in 1978? I don't remember that at all. He was John Paul I. Then they elected John Paul II. I don't remember any of that. What was I doing in 1978? I guess those were my particularly unChristian days. I had just been awarded my PhD and was teaching at the University of Florida. --bonniev Twice a day, at 10 am and 4 pm local time they take two votes (i.e. a > total of 4 votes per day) about 3 hours later the ballots are burned. > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:24:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFO5Wm027872 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:24:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:24:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5CC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:24:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:24:04 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFO3uL020881; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:24:04 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 95462671; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:24:03 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050419082340.00b64720@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:24:03 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Tom Snyder In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050418143025a1c500@mail.gmail.com> References: <200504182120.j3ILKFkn010808@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200504182120.j3ILKFkn010808@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:30 PM 4/18/2005 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I went to a doctor a while back and he told me I was feverish at 99.7. >That's why I asked. How can you afford to go to the doctor? Do you have auto insurance? B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:25:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFPGWm027974 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:25:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:25:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5CCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:25:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:25:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFPBSS021256 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:25:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2107766wra for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.28.29 with SMTP id b29mr3556816wrb; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:25:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WSOu753vnjAf/5IfagxXutQzV1EMHgmh5vY3rfPV1Jn4q5LZihehGph5Eqe3uhYYAPR8wH36LYxJOXlTNbMX6PKn3wBANsTo9f2jwh8lRjV9U4X447t7CjTRX2byPhfquEUAiuos8JmXQXBQ5jidDqOkTdN+d+BDQloT/aSjRcg= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:25:11 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Q for P In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JFPGWm027974 > > They can but they don't necessarily. I suspect that JPII was motivated > to make changes by the experience of his own election. > BrP Why? Was it chaos? They must have had two conclaves in two months! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:29:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFTGWm028390 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:29:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:29:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5CE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:29:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:29:16 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFTG5p022102 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:29:16 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 95463830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:29:16 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050419082520.00b323c8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:29:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are In-Reply-To: <42642AB1.5010703@maynor.net> References: <200504181524.j3IFOVdK000518@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200504181524.j3IFOVdK000518@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:46 PM 4/18/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>Natalie, when you come up for FingerFest, you might want to visit >>this: >>Glenn Curtis Museum (one-time "fastest man on earth") >>http://www.linkny.com/~curtiss/ >> >Thanks. I'll check out the url later. Got rid of my houseguest later >than I expected today and then discovered that I'm to take hors >d'oeuvres to a function at 6 p.m., so things have been and still are hectic. > >I've bicycled in the Finger Lakes, btw -- or make that near the Finger >Lakes -- wasn't an amphibious bike. Went to a bicycle rally there in '71. Should we rent bikes in July? I'm strictly a flat lander bike rider now though. My favorite place to ride is along the ocean in Monterey and Pacific Grove. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:29:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFTXWm028465 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:29:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:29:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5C29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:29:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:29:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFTWm9022149 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:29:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2610826nzp for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.4 with SMTP id h4mr499217nzb; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:29:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KsGdCUDPi6/3flGNhZ0ShrpaLfXFSNZPJ1Ybk3fjXVL8YiQXuvdgzxqhRmZKBmBKjo+mDZ0hRaXwbQHurgHHunmhnTh/4mZeNX9Fbk0BmFfv6bY8OSE48ZEdRcifFhqRBRUlScB1hZI3X7DKxOweK5BhSMcTyB1xKSQgT/FFCUI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041908295b492049@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:29:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tom Snyder In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050419082340.00b64720@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504182120.j3ILKFkn010808@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a7050418143025a1c500@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050419082340.00b64720@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JFTXWm028465 On 4/19/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 04:30 PM 4/18/2005 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >I went to a doctor a while back and he told me I was feverish at 99.7. > >That's why I asked. > > How can you afford to go to the doctor? It was $62. I can't afford it, but it's the only way to get antibiotics. Do you have auto insurance? > Yes, of course. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:30:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFU5Wm028562 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:30:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:30:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5C2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:30:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:30:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFU3Z8022226 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:30:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2611010nzp for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.31.10 with SMTP id e10mr498601nze; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:30:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mMI4qfjkxibiU8+EW0q5blu0d6SlPBTR/v1wALoNM50fg0IlBUrA86JoNKQlSVv5VueidM++1yktQsQ3btaJ4Moo87i+yEclMghDAkcS+I/ouJKoQa0y42bRyfoj2F65CQlCvPAzZ7q1fioquOqt2mBza++D7nDcPrUkcfAPUY4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041908301f8b2f12@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:30:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next smoke In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JFU5Wm028562 10 2 and 4 On 4/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I have read and reread and rereread this sentence and I can't make it > make any sense. > > BrP > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/19/2005 11:15:03 AM >>> > I guess the two of the two votes substitutes for 2 pm, to make it like > the Dr. Pepper man. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:31:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFV9Wm028701 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:31:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:31:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5C37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:31:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:31:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFV8SB022467 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:31:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2611440nzp for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr498901nzb; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:31:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UA7rtY4lrzWgJB0WqJhKdn+Uwv2ro02/PHoWt2yN/9fU9UyQOZr2VMgVux99jw1j0gv35ynLBW1Sm02x5LVmKsAHhPMMAUcEr00CZMo+ZX9TY5FJR1HZVI75dl2NhGJC7fnooXCkA7/lvtUkmxjSmF/kgV8DMhGxuWr2nXHAAqs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041908314c2f5b2a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:31:08 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next smoke In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JFV9Wm028701 On 4/19/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Did you know that there was a pope for 33 days in 1978? Yes. P and I discussed this when JPII died. He knows all the popes. Intimately. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:43:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFh8Wm029811 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:43:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:43:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5B9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:43:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:43:07 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFh7Ki024784 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:43:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.163.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419154307.UCEE1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:43:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42652705.6090903@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:43:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next smoke References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >I have read and reread and rereread this sentence and I can't make it >make any sense. > > Do you not remember when the Dr. Pepper Man showed up (somewhere) at 10, 2, and 4? Remind me to show you my chipped front tooth when I'm in Syracuse -- a chip (very tiny) that was made from a Dr. Pepper bottle in the drugstore across the street from my college campus when a bunch of us were over there drinking Dr. Peppers, watching for the Dr. Pepper Man. I can't even remember now what the prize was for people found drinking Dr. Peppers at those hours. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:46:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFjxWm030172 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:46:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:46:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F177BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:45:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:45:58 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFjwEH025478 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:45:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.163.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419154558.UDYD1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:45:58 -0400 Message-ID: <426527B0.6070600@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:45:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next smoke References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >Did you know that there was a pope for 33 days in 1978? > I remember that very well. People were saying that every time you turned around there was smoke going up again for still another pope. My memory had it as more than just two news ones in a short time. > I don't remember >that at all. He was John Paul I. Then they elected John Paul II. I don't >remember any of that. What was I doing in 1978? > For some reason I was paying more attention then than I am to the Pope stuff now. I don't know why. I'm just not into following this conclave at all. I also didn't get into the story of his funeral at all. He was old, his death was not unexpected, and it just didn't strike me as very interesting news. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 10:51:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JFpZWm030722 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:51:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:51:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5DD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:51:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:51:34 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JFpYLU026813 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:51:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.163.188]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419155134.UHVU1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:51:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42652900.5030003@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:51:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Quiet Y'all Are References: <200504181524.j3IFOVdK000518@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200504181524.j3IFOVdK000518@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050419082520.00b323c8@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050419082520.00b323c8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Should we rent bikes in July? Pas moi. I'm not into biking anymore. Somewhere I still have my racing shoes and shorts and helmet (the spaghetti kind), but I don't know why I kept them -- and I don't know what happened to my Starkville Freewheelers jersey. I also still have my main racing bike -- the one that won lots of races. This is funny timing, since just a little while ago I was thinking that I should take it to the church rummage sale in late April. I don't know who would want it since it's not like today's race-winning bikes and since it would be a terrible touring or around-town bike -- its tires would need constant attention, etc. But it's sitting there in my garage taking up room that I need for other things, like for where overnight guests can park cars. (It was hanging on special hooks in a storage building for many years, but I don't have any special hooks here and don't need to be keeping that bike anyway. I should've sold it years ago to the person who wanted to buy it for his triathaloning -- he was short, so the bike fit him perfectly.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:22:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGLnWm002743 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:21:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:22:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F178D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:11:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:11:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGBjIn031002 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:11:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so182762nzk for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.91.10 with SMTP id o10mr281340nzb; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:11:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=nXl5gqQ2jnsMMonJa1TpN57o/uKVE3bo3VKoRFsCEvnJ6dem+K90Df1gmLndZeSojlbjcuoFsLmODQnhGUrq4f1iFfPR81dITcASzNKlHH8ncV6OgApIQ/yWqGly2L668blB5JL9SfMPqgh7TNbSaIa8YNkoo5e3ujLwrE2m+Kg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041909115c427715@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:11:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Hey, Adam! Interim report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JGLnWm002743 I expressed an interest in Sloan Wainwright because of a song played on the radio--I don't remember what it was, now. I've listened to the eponymously named CD a couple of times now, and I think I don't actually like her! But I will listen to more. I can't quite figure out what I don't like--I keep thinking I *should* like her. -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:33:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGXLWm004407 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:33:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:33:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5CAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:17:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:17:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGH6qG032049 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:17:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so184758nzk for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.5 with SMTP id l5mr504853nzc; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=n9PFRQTmRUzEFGYuzQAePKo3ZC8k1mkoXv/lQkOP0Rya5WwkOw5888TBelapczU5MqgJmC8eO8P42UGoND8J3+tOQXJ3MeW/hveHOn6xskFYQouXz94JYAD+8a3GyyKMCU9fD2g2YC07PGUv3ztLaSXKmmIAn8VYsoqW8aw3Qc8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504190917349a7e1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:17:06 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CNN Breaking News In-Reply-To: <200504191605.j3JG54u7026099@ema8adm1.turner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504191605.j3JG54u7026099@ema8adm1.turner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JGXLWm004407 Woohoo! The Pope is dead! Long live the Pope! On 4/19/05, CNN Breaking News wrote: > > -- White smoke and ringing bells signal selection of new pope. > > Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com for the latest news. > More Americans watch CNN. More Americans trust CNN. > > ***************************************************** > Doing justice to legal news! Watch Nancy Grace LIVE on > Headline News, weeknights at 8 p.m. ET! Nancy Grace is > the only LIVE justice-themed interview/debate show! > For more visit: http://www.CNN.com/nancygrace > ***************************************************** > > To unsubscribe from CNN.com 's Breaking News E-Mail Alert, > log on to: > http://CNN.com/EMAIL/breakingnews.html > > To sign up for additional e-mail products, go to http://CNN.com/EMAIL > > (c)2005. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP. > A Time Warner Company. > All Rights Reserved. > > CNN Interactive email id:26064120504238770 > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:33:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGXLWm004400 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:33:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:33:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5E1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:03:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:03:19 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JG3JGh029549 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:03:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.163.188]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419160308.JMFA2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:03:08 -0400 Message-ID: <42652BB7.50104@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:03:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-L Subject: [Fwd: Breaking News - A New Pope!] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU -------- Original Message -------- Breaking news : Catholic Cardinals Stunned! The almost 120 Cardinals from around the world that gathered to choose a successor in the Vatican's Sistine Chapel were stunned and expressed amazement. Cardinal Mohoney, the Vatican spokesperson, had this to say: "We in the conclave are all shocked. We cast our votes using these new electronic voting machines. The results overwhelmingly favored George W. Bush. ** From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:33:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGXLWm004408 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:33:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:33:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5DDB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:26:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:26:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGQUVm001221 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:26:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so515798nzf for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.61.11 with SMTP id j11mr498467nza; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:26:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SapYCTzDHyXCyZDwKnX6b3pEh/P9TuCFQSNt2zmWjzMnEhTA4AfVc9b+J+uiCWj5d7Q+4rgwqJJQQHwAwV87uiNL30+jx0lqm3Vpyii84NRQzxukZykEa3B6k6z854ottD6v0y5/Wl/3TftKUpnvUuI6gGo3pNk+L96MOdEKiBs= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:26:30 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Any Russian speakers on this service? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3JGQVVm001222 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've got some questions about Tetris songs, and any Russian speaker could probably help me with at least one, even if they don't know music. I'll keep the Cyrillic off the list in case it breaks something, but I've posted my questions here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/sylvar/123910.html Ben (did I say service? I meant board) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:33:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGXLWm004402 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:33:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:33:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5D7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:10:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:10:42 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGAghT030806 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:10:42 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:10:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:10:28 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: next smoke Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes. I remember it well. He was called "the Smiling Pope" by the media BrP >>> bonniemaev@GMAIL.COM 4/19/2005 11:23:14 AM >>> Did you know that there was a pope for 33 days in 1978? I don't remember that at all. He was John Paul I. Then they elected John Paul II. I don't remember any of that. What was I doing in 1978? I guess those were my particularly unChristian days. I had just been awarded my PhD and was teaching at the University of Florida. --bonniev Twice a day, at 10 am and 4 pm local time they take two votes (i.e. a > total of 4 votes per day) about 3 hours later the ballots are burned. > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:33:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGXLWm004406 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:33:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:33:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5E95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:24:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:24:46 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGOkfK000897 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:24:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:24:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:24:26 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: CNN Breaking News Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU wow that was quick so much for the theory that housing the O.M.I.D. in luxury would make them stay longer BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/19/2005 12:17:06 PM >>> Woohoo! The Pope is dead! Long live the Pope! On 4/19/05, CNN Breaking News wrote: > > -- White smoke and ringing bells signal selection of new pope. > > Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com for the latest news. > More Americans watch CNN. More Americans trust CNN. > > ***************************************************** > Doing justice to legal news! Watch Nancy Grace LIVE on > Headline News, weeknights at 8 p.m. ET! Nancy Grace is > the only LIVE justice-themed interview/debate show! > For more visit: http://www.CNN.com/nancygrace > ***************************************************** > > To unsubscribe from CNN.com 's Breaking News E-Mail Alert, > log on to: > http://CNN.com/EMAIL/breakingnews.html > > To sign up for additional e-mail products, go to http://CNN.com/EMAIL > > (c)2005. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP. > A Time Warner Company. > All Rights Reserved. > > CNN Interactive email id:26064120504238770 > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:38:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGciWm004888 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:38:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:38:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5D09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:38:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:38:43 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGch2f003243 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:38:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F17952@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:38:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200504191638.j3JGch2f003243@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:38:43 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: next smoke To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:23:14 -0400, bonniemaev wrote: >Did you know that there was a pope for 33 days in 1978? I don't remember >that at all. He was John Paul I. Then they elected John Paul II. I don't >remember any of that. What was I doing in 1978? I guess those were my >particularly unChristian days. I had just been awarded my PhD and was >teaching at the University of Florida. > --bonniev > > Twice a day, at 10 am and 4 pm local time they take two votes (i.e. a >> total of 4 votes per day) about 3 hours later the ballots are burned. >> BrP >> I remember it! My daughter was only a couple of months old, and I had lost the name debate with the starter husband, so I was thinking my pick would have been a great Pope's name: Hieronymous Dill. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:42:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGgFWm005232 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:42:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:42:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5ED9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:42:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:42:11 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGgBg8003883 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:42:11 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so2139188rne for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.66.45 with SMTP id o45mr2729855rna; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.51 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:42:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MRiBgpKQt0+TNmYN7xw+dY9emAQ957ESEmxQEdK2lfETNHzq8OaZPbqb58mKXb1qegU5wAhqgW2Q5j3KsOCfG3cq3FCGguijxBlTiA2k/EY1hlhbp7TJfjsE7WeOJo6hbdphYT5wjqMQm5JEiW6h5lyV7J05m7XE72yTtmkrnxg= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:42:10 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trek In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3JGgBg8003884 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 4/18/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Bush rides a Trek - anyone else? > > I am bicycle-shopping ... > > If I bought a Trek, then Bush and I would have two things in common, Lance (and George) may choose Trek, but everyone else in serious competition seems to ride Cervélo. http://www.cervelo.com/ Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:44:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGiJWm005449 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:44:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:44:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5D1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:44:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:44:19 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGiIrq004301 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:44:18 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C87A465B2DBC1 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:44:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001001c544ff$045c8a50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: next smoke Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:44:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>>> bonniemaev@GMAIL.COM 4/19/2005 11:23:14 AM >>> > Did you know that there was a pope for 33 days in 1978? I don't > remember > that at all. He was John Paul I. Then they elected John Paul II. I > don't > remember any of that. > --bonniev http://www.ewtn.com/johnpaul2/life/1978.htm - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:48:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGmXWm005908 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:48:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:48:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5E32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:48:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:48:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGmXM8005169 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:48:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:48:32 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:48:08 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Benedict XVI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ratzinger From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:59:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGx8Wm007026 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:59:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:59:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F17AB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:59:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:59:07 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGx7tD007671 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:59:07 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28F8979A0 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:59:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30768-01 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:59:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F4B976B9 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:59:05 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <426538D9.6040500@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:59:05 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Any Russian speakers on this service? References: <42653701.6050507@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42653701.6050507@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.333 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > I'll look at the songs linked to that page more thoroughly later Too bad: I cannot see the texts of the songs. When I clicked on a heading of the song Tachanka there seemed not to be any other ways to open it than to save it in my computer as a .zip file. And there's something wrong with Winzip in my computer. All I can say at the moment is that Tachanka is listed among songs about the Russian Civil War. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:59:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGxDWm007030 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:59:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:59:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5D37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:49:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:49:11 -0400 Received: from n6.bulk.scd.yahoo.com (n6.bulk.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3JGnA7t005360 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:49:10 -0400 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by n6.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2005 16:49:09 -0000 Received: from [66.163.172.56] by mailer3.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2005 16:49:09 -0000 Message-Id: <200504191649.j3JGnA7t005360@listserv.cc.uga.edu> DomainKey-Signature: Date: 19 Apr 2005 09:49:09 -0700 From: "Alec D. 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News http://dailynews.yahoo.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 11:59:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JGxDWm007032 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:59:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:59:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5D97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:51:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:51:16 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JGpF68005984 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:51:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E637F97252 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:51:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29744-10 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:51:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D563B97245 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:51:13 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42653701.6050507@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:51:13 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Any Russian speakers on this service? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.331 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >I've got some questions about Tetris songs, and any Russian speaker >could probably help me with at least one, even if they don't know >music. I'll keep the Cyrillic off the list in case it breaks >something, but I've posted my questions here: > >http://www.livejournal.com/users/sylvar/123910.html > I'll look at the songs linked to that page more thoroughly later in the evening and try to leave some comments. But: what is Tetris song? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:12:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHBoWm008709 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:11:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:12:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F17ADE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:03:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:03:01 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JH30aj008269 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:03:00 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:03:00 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:02:53 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Benedict XVI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU yup BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 4/19/2005 1:00:21 PM >>> Was it he who was in the Hitler Youth? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Benedict XVI > Ratzinger From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:12:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHBoWm008707 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:11:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:12:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F17A89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:01:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:01:48 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JH1lkN008106 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:01:47 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3JH1k7S017588 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:01:47 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3JH0L5H003498 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:00:22 -0400 Message-ID: <05b401c54501$46590490$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Benedict XVI Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:00:21 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Was it he who was in the Hitler Youth? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Benedict XVI > Ratzinger From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:15:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHF7Wm009085 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:15:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:15:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F5FBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:06:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:06:29 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JH6Tk5009009 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:06:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EA8978D1 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:06:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31650-02 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:06:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EA7976B9 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:06:27 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42653A93.1080407@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:06:27 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Any Russian speakers on this service? References: <42653701.6050507@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42653701.6050507@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.335 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > what is Tetris song? Sorry, I was too hasty to send the question. I know the game Tetris. Only: I do not think I've ever played it anywhere accompanied by a song. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:15:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHF7Wm009086 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:15:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:15:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5DF2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:05:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:05:04 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JH54KF008688 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:05:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16775667 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:18:24 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:05:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:05:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <72293147.20050419110502@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: next smoke In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57751, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 9:23 AM, bonniemaev wrote: b> Did you know that there was a pope for 33 days in 1978? Yes. There were many who said that he'd been murdered due to his beliefs. I'm sure there are still conspiracy theorists who believe it, and can probably "prove it". b> I don't remember b> that at all. He was John Paul I. Then they elected John Paul II. I don't b> remember any of that. What was I doing in 1978? I guess those were my b> particularly unChristian days. I had just been awarded my PhD and was b> teaching at the University of Florida. And I was living in Albuquerque and working at UNM Library. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:15:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHF7Wm009087 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:15:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:15:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5F13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:10:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:10:17 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JHAGQ6009704 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:10:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16902505 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:17:42 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:10:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:10:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <76997878.20050419111015@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Benedict XVI In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=70059, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, he was born in about 1927, since he's 78. It might have been pretty hard NOT to have been in Hitler Youth at that time. Personally, I don't hold that against him. On the other hand, his ultraconservative views on the Church are a different issue...and the reason I find his choice disappointing, though certainly not surprising. Heck, he stated his platform and campaign speech in his homily the other day. And....he has a fan club....whose website is down due to too much traffic. But their tshirt sales site is up...also with trucker hats....and of course a couple of beer steins... http://www.cafepress.com/ratzfanclub/22837 4/19/2005, 11:02 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> yup PB> BrP >>>> awild@URI.EDU 4/19/2005 1:00:21 PM >>> PB> Was it he who was in the Hitler Youth? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:16:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHGgWm009272 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:16:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:16:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F6003@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:16:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:16:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JHGf4g010775 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:16:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so537419nzf for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.71.12 with SMTP id t12mr503037nza; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fJ+5zeC39n9C2MuLu3uXHcIgkdei6WERWCbpfHFlmwjdavAS1rQrmAD6h08rQ5bSODWKoB3pLoCXU6JQfgiovHubmkBPA7B0uDCFI5n9XtWODv4mF8RjZMhEBRWYVqWKYAFcdbdT2JdDrMIk0tYFcTTVF58o0YvEZRpgSZ4R7GA= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:16:40 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Any Russian speakers on this service? In-Reply-To: <42653A93.1080407@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42653701.6050507@akad.ee> <42653A93.1080407@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3JHGf4g010776 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Sorry, I was too hasty to send the question. I know the game Tetris. > Only: I do not think I've ever played it anywhere accompanied by a song. Oh. The Nintendo version used Russian folk songs. There are a few here: http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/nes/index-classic.html? You'll have to scroll or search for "Tetris". Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:18:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHIFWm009487 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:18:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:18:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5F49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:18:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:18:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JHIDm1010992 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:18:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so1935460nzn for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.9.5 with SMTP id 5mr504065nzi; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:18:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VYzPPXnKgDorA/DLSD8QU0vJBGBRMUeZNFmtbD9oJRv7Y0OjCBRbnnbQtNqe7SRK+FXzdxg4Qs60bzmTwQq4b/LrySQOVjJhaDsNUsvWql46TVjTFJDOhMUHh6DNqTtO4VEe5M7ORKnPKm92Hu/dqslL1e+YatJ8xdM/BhdzATU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:18:12 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Any Russian speakers on this service? In-Reply-To: <42653701.6050507@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42653701.6050507@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3JHIEm1010993 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I see Kristin has suggested some spellings. Thanks! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:33:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHXUWm011175 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:33:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:33:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F17C1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:33:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:33:29 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3JHNSB1012212 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:23:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 6413 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Apr 2005 17:23:28 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:23:28 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird Message-ID: <20050419172328.GA98114@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050418043959f5dbfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705041820441d895b53@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041820441d895b53@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 10:44:11PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Or perhaps he would know, but if he has a choice > > between a fact and some weird urban legend that he pulled out of some > > deep corner of his ass, you know which one he's going to choose. > > His ass, every time. Well, having an ass with corners is not to sneered at! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:35:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHYpWm011298 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:34:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:35:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F5EC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:34:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:34:51 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3JHOprp012533 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:24:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 7337 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Apr 2005 17:24:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:24:51 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Security Services Message-ID: <20050419172451.GB98114@words-l.org> References: <42646C65.1030609@maynor.net> <436404265.20050418215322@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <436404265.20050418215322@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 09:53:22PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/18/2005, 8:26 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> At tonight's SOFO meeting/party (SOFO = So Fondren, > NM> which strikes me as > NM> kind of corny), > > They're trying to do a take off on SoHo and SoMa and others from big > cities. Boise is doing it with BoDo. That sucks! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:58:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHw0Wm013670 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:58:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:58:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F5FF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:38:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:38:14 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JHcE9c016025 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:38:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16779753 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:51:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:38:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:38:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <910528029.20050419113812@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Weird In-Reply-To: <20050419172328.GA98114@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050418043959f5dbfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705041820441d895b53@mail.gmail.com> <20050419172328.GA98114@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57777, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 11:23 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> > deep corner of his ass, you know which one he's going to choose. >> >> His ass, every time. DMH> Well, having an ass with corners is not to sneered at! They can do wonders with plastic surgery these days. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 12:58:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JHw0Wm013669 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:58:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:58:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F60B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:37:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:37:55 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JHbsKQ015950 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:37:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0992F976BD for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:37:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02565-03 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:37:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CDF97636 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:37:52 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <426541EF.8010100@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:37:51 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Any Russian speakers on this service? References: <42653701.6050507@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.336 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >I see Kristin has suggested some spellings. Thanks! > You're welcome! I'm trying to translate Tachanka into English at the moment -- just looked it up in a Russian-Estonian Dictionary; and also to find a possibility to listen to Tachanka -- but is this necessary? You've listened to both, haven't you? So you can tell whether they have one and the same melody? Fortunately 'troika' is the same in English, and there's an entry in M-W Dictionary -- but you probably knew its meaning already, even if you do not use that word every day. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:12:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JICfWm015283 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:12:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:12:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F636B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:12:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:12:41 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3JI2fUG021825 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:02:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 25416 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Apr 2005 18:02:40 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:02:40 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Benedict XVI Message-ID: <20050419180240.GC98114@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's something I got from the web: "To have a clear faith according to the church's creed is today often labeled fundamentalism," he said, "while relativism, letting ourselves be carried away by any wind of doctrine, appears as the only appropriate attitude for the today's times. A dictatorship of relativism is established that recognizes nothing definite and leaves only one's own ego and one's own desires as the final measure." Well summarized. That's all there is to it. Obviously, it's not just your rank and file priest who bullshits his way out of everything, and (most importantly) keeps the patter going. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:26:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIQbWm016672 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:26:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:26:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F61D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:16:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:16:36 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3JI6Yq4022474 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:06:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 27597 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Apr 2005 18:06:34 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:06:34 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird Message-ID: <20050419180634.GA25615@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050418043959f5dbfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705041820441d895b53@mail.gmail.com> <20050419172328.GA98114@words-l.org> <910528029.20050419113812@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <910528029.20050419113812@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 11:38:12AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/19/2005, 11:23 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> > deep corner of his ass, you know which one he's going to choose. > >> > >> His ass, every time. > > DMH> Well, having an ass with corners is not to sneered at! > > They can do wonders with plastic surgery these days. Shit. Knowing that makes it just a little less wonderful ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:26:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIQbWm016674 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:26:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:26:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F6302@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:19:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 260420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:19:22 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIJL7X025476 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:19:22 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:19:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:45 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Weird Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners BrP >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/19/2005 1:38:12 PM >>> DMH> Well, having an ass with corners is not to sneered at! They can do wonders with plastic surgery these days. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:27:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIRQWm016767 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:27:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:27:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F6255@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:27:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 261487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:27:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIROkO027540 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:27:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2676537nzp for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr518307nzb; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:27:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pmHkTU6EuoE+eU+CJeND2rKsi+nNXDglla/Q64BaLh6JTZ2NLWiGzaWb2zi23OMVFecQWvyI3imsWYtke1JMrlSsxcy43prT2G4T/Ae5J0dl1Wqgzb/b+duVm0wuvTjN9wAysdufzFD1qOLkgKrsAZQcu7iXUP+eKmNkqzlrv4Y= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050419112737a19a49@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:27:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JIRQWm016767 I really don't like thinking about his ass. On 4/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners > > BrP > > >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/19/2005 1:38:12 PM >>> > > DMH> Well, having an ass with corners is not to sneered at! > > They can do wonders with plastic surgery these days. > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:34:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIYZWm017482 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:34:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:34:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F6286@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:34:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 262270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:34:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIYYtG028967 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:34:34 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:34:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:34:23 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: more on Benedict XVI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One of his previous jobs: professor of dogmatic theology and of the history of dogma interesting title BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:40:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIeNWm018067 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:40:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:40:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F639E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:40:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 262677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:40:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIeMxm029892 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:40:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1907653wri for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.32 with SMTP id e32mr4838496wre; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:40:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fLttYgWzKrZbff2uhhdpx7z85N99kKJHM52+WvyWURdl8xYXfnWgKb5imlM6dQVBkbLUF70YvWtJi8ZElfeY+6MsiSC1si8lIWfHhfsYQAwjvD7/johlSgGWxFvyU6HqoAO/TuOPMGMKfMwGODCIpnH63p4p14rGW80zRADTMfw= Message-ID: <83db447a050419114028879e98@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:40:18 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JIeNWm018067 On 4/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > One of his previous jobs: > > professor of dogmatic theology and of the history of dogma > > interesting title Sieg Heil! cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:42:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIgLWm018334 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:42:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:42:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F63B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:42:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:42:20 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIgJE4030653 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:42:20 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16913614 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:49:46 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:42:39 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:42:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Weird In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 173, in=70122, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 12:18 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners PB> BrP And is probably as white as the driven snow From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:53:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIqtWm019804 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F6408@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:50:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:50:30 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIoT5A001498 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:50:29 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16980891 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:50:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:50:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:49:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <428641420.20050419124955@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Weird In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 170, in=56731, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 12:47 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I bet it's mottled. And as messed up as his nose was/is. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:53:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIqsWm019798 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F6482@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:42:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:42:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIgrud030818 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:42:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2681756nzp for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.91.10 with SMTP id o10mr297003nzb; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:36:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Qu7TbmBWTo1pip7Lw596X7NiCxSRIOHSS7ddZsJD8LjmjL/Cxb0l2jM4JWmNBw8kvmnW5NfKCaNjubUYesHOczs0/cnnOON2Omv0XBIHaVWfFnpjEZHut1uvzlMp/knfd184TK6OcmBaAad19b6Ghv6OvXE5Vc6uCvVl5jaWdMo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041911364776c2bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:36:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JIqsWm019798 On 4/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > One of his previous jobs: > > professor of dogmatic theology and of the history of dogma > > interesting title > Good prep for a pope, I'd think. That and Hitler Youth tells you everything you need to know... -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:53:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIqtWm019802 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F64B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:47:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:47:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIloXY000422 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:47:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so2683798nzp for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr521101nzb; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=q0Js04VSmf2ISOu5fyAasQL7/yuwjyoYCAnPHqwqraeT7t41GEBTvJ6a38PUGoTOPlur4frTsgka9+bPdKa1G97QSsJy4acDfU8un1nO9rpaldgea/xqmc/TSwJF+CUohBcnins+HqQyDhgXUY22LO2NvbMEvqm4SHGFLIYbg0I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:47:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JIqtWm019802 I bet it's mottled. On 4/19/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/19/2005, 12:18 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > PB> I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners > > PB> BrP > > And is probably as white as the driven snow > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:53:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIqtWm019801 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F64B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:48:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:48:40 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JImd9T000778 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:48:39 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16787986 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:02:00 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:48:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:48:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1408569315.20050419124838@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57825, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU appropriate background for one who became Defender of the Faith or to be more correct.... Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith 4/19/2005, 12:34 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> One of his previous jobs: PB> professor of dogmatic theology and of the history of dogma PB> interesting title From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:53:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIqrWm019792 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1826E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:52:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:52:52 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIqqcl002336 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:52:52 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1826D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:52:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200504191852.j3JIqqcl002336@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:52:52 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:49:25 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >4/19/2005, 12:36 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >AFoA> Good prep for a pope, I'd think. That and Hitler Youth tells you everything >AFoA> you need to know... > >I'm still not sure how one can hold the hitler youth shit against him. >if he hadn't played, he'd probably not be alive now. Err, umm, no, actually there were some survivors, and also some resisters, and also some who chose not to play along. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:53:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIqtWm019803 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F64BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:49:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:49:27 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JInRia001120 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:49:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16980780 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:49:48 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:49:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:49:25 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1247350167.20050419124925@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: more on Benedict XVI In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041911364776c2bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705041911364776c2bc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 170, in=56729, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 12:36 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Good prep for a pope, I'd think. That and Hitler Youth tells you everything AFoA> you need to know... I'm still not sure how one can hold the hitler youth shit against him. if he hadn't played, he'd probably not be alive now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:53:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIqtWn019804 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F6339@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:51:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:51:46 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIpkDK001991 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:51:46 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F18204@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:51:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200504191851.j3JIpkDK001991@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:51:46 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:48:38 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >appropriate background for one who became Defender of the Faith > >or to be more correct.... > >Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith > > >4/19/2005, 12:34 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >PB> One of his previous jobs: > >PB> professor of dogmatic theology and of the history of dogma > >PB> interesting title We now no longer have to worry about what our late night evangelical friends would say. Clearly this is the person they have long awaited, the dragon (or whatever) who will battle the Antichrist. Either that or he IS the antiChrist. One or the other; take your pick. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 13:54:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JIsJWm019934 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:54:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:54:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F6487@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:54:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:54:19 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JIsJkv002782 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:54:19 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3JIsB7Q021693 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:54:18 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3JIqT5H022689 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:52:30 -0400 Message-ID: <064601c54510$f07c04e0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <83db447a050419114028879e98@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: more on Benedict XVI Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:52:29 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI On 4/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > One of his previous jobs: > > professor of dogmatic theology and of the history of dogma > > interesting title Sieg Heil! cwv 'Strength through kicking the shit out of Jews, blacks and Gypsies... requiem aeternam dona ets, Domine. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 14:14:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JJDeWm022708 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:13:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:14:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F64DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:03:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:03:39 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JJ3cDw005293 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:03:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16915968 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:11:05 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:03:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:03:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16810505784.20050419130337@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: more on Benedict XVI In-Reply-To: <200504191851.j3JIpkDK001991@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504191851.j3JIpkDK001991@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 173, in=70136, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think many of those would say he IS the antichrist. 4/19/2005, 12:51 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: CO> We now no longer have to worry about what our late night evangelical CO> friends would say. Clearly this is the person they have long awaited, the CO> dragon (or whatever) who will battle the Antichrist. Either that or he IS CO> the antiChrist. One or the other; take your pick. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 14:14:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JJDeWm022707 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:13:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:14:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F65A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:05:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:05:22 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JJ5Lmc005722 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:05:21 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F18336@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:05:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200504191905.j3JJ5Lmc005722@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:05:21 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >4/19/2005, 12:51 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >CO> We now no longer have to worry about what our late night evangelical >CO> friends would say. Clearly this is the person they have long awaited, the >CO> dragon (or whatever) who will battle the Antichrist. Either that or he IS >CO> the antiChrist. One or the other; take your pick. On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:03:37 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >I think many of those would say he IS the antichrist. > That seems backwards to me - isn't the antichrist a great leader who's mistaken for the 2d coming, very attractive and powerful? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 14:14:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JJDeWm022706 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:13:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:14:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F63DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:04:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:04:17 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JJ4GrK005452 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:04:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 16916029 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:11:43 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:04:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:04:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1818272646.20050419130415@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: more on Benedict XVI In-Reply-To: <200504191852.j3JIqqcl002336@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504191852.j3JIqqcl002336@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 173, in=70140, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 12:52 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>I'm still not sure how one can hold the hitler youth shit against him. >>if he hadn't played, he'd probably not be alive now. CO> Err, umm, no, actually there were some survivors, and also some resisters, CO> and also some who chose not to play along. Right. Some. I said probably, not definitely. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 14:22:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JJMHWm023463 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:22:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:22:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F6616@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:22:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:22:16 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JJMGrh009419 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:22:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 16984310 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:22:37 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:22:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:22:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <295938108.20050419132214@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: more on Benedict XVI In-Reply-To: <200504191905.j3JJ5Lmc005722@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504191905.j3JJ5Lmc005722@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 170, in=56753, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 1:05 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>I think many of those would say he IS the antichrist. >> CO> That seems backwards to me - isn't the antichrist a great leader who's CO> mistaken for the 2d coming, very attractive and powerful? CO> clo Right. And I'm sure that many ultra conservative Catholics would say that he's all that.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 15:35:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JKZlWm031753 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:35:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:35:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F67F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:35:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:35:46 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JKZkrX024570 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:35:46 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3JKZi7Q025137 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:35:46 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (pool-64-223-16-87.prov.east.verizon.net [64.223.16.87]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3JKY85I031443 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:34:10 -0400 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:32:49 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: next smoke Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Did you know that there was a pope for 33 days in 1978? I don't remember >that at all. He was John Paul I. Then they elected John Paul II. I don't >remember any of that. What was I doing in 1978? I guess those were my >particularly unChristian days. I had just been awarded my PhD and was >teaching at the University of Florida. Also, there was other stuff in the news--revolution in Iran and the Jonestown massacre. > --bonniev /Jim http://words-l.org/images/jb From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 15:56:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JKuOWm001104 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:56:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:56:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F6871@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:56:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:56:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JKuNY8029742 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:56:23 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so78042nzf for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.9.12 with SMTP id 12mr18717nzi; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:56:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bzW9+VI1kde5ijyc+6/pzWBiW36b3lL8C126hVliCWUPTDERNUD93eLMivMWqAY3X/mUdTJ5Rdhk9e9aSWdH0HHHIWo6Pkb1xbRRfYx5PtKTHxrm9aJy7dAb8vaKwhjc6wj0jBpz0DSdiX18lbjoqvROju2cd/pfV9FjV/Pc44Q= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:56:22 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI In-Reply-To: <200504191905.j3JJ5Lmc005722@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200504191905.j3JJ5Lmc005722@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3JKuNY8029743 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That seems backwards to me - isn't the antichrist a great leader who's > mistaken for the 2d coming, very attractive and powerful? Well, B16 *has* been called charming and/or personable by many people. Some writers add that even his enemies find him personally charming. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 15:56:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JKuWWm001125 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:56:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:56:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F6873@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:56:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:56:32 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JKuVmO029788 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:56:31 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2225363wra for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.25.2 with SMTP id 2mr157856wry; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OzoZICsjq8YaL+FAyuT8Z7pohy4pTXNcI1G1SpOtV1ntHbGrls4lsNB111OR14eLkGGgjYJabjSTQTsm9tU+TdVdJA8+YovXVJmDlqVvakD4+zuXie2NN221FKerya1f7ZohxAEn7ubOehQvJCJAQQKmxWb/GMfhFpPh0lNBW4s= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:56:30 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next smoke In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JKuWWm001125 > > >Did you know that there was a pope for 33 days in 1978? I don't remember > >that at all. He was John Paul I. Then they elected John Paul II. I don't > >remember any of that. What was I doing in 1978? I guess those were my > >particularly unChristian days. I had just been awarded my PhD and was > >teaching at the University of Florida. --bonniev > > Also, there was other stuff in the news--revolution in Iran and > the Jonestown massacre. > /Jim > http://words-l.org/images/jb > Ah, I do remember the Jonestown massacre. That was the one with Kool-Aid or lemonade, right? -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 16:46:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JLkZWm006595 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:46:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:46:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F6842@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:46:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:46:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JLkUsr006554 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:46:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so13869nzp for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr7770nzb; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:46:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HcK8ALH4N2Daqhc+5iXeS5eVZUr2GJIRbYVCPXbzX7y4pJCtBnal9U13tF7+nGmgFO50XQQZsVJGYwqc5Cri5+CmXoxGFjiewgBbD3PTos0xfuIDxzcnXUJojJKKaxROpg2nasfYidLwXBX4V3sh0uAhi7iXFZXpFsmb3bYLkzE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504191446418944e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:46:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next smoke In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3JLkZWm006595 Kool-Aid. I was in Hawaii. I remember it, too. On 4/19/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > >Did you know that there was a pope for 33 days in 1978? I don't > remember > > >that at all. He was John Paul I. Then they elected John Paul II. I > don't > > >remember any of that. What was I doing in 1978? I guess those were my > > >particularly unChristian days. I had just been awarded my PhD and was > > >teaching at the University of Florida. --bonniev > > > > Also, there was other stuff in the news--revolution in Iran and > > the Jonestown massacre. > > /Jim > > http://words-l.org/images/jb > > > Ah, I do remember the Jonestown massacre. That was the one with Kool-Aid > or > lemonade, right? > > -- > --bonniev > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 18:23:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JNNAWm017149 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:23:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:23:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F6BA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:23:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:23:08 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3JND8fT020581 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:13:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 88792 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Apr 2005 23:13:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:13:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird Message-ID: <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 01:47:50PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I bet it's mottled. > > On 4/19/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > 4/19/2005, 12:18 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > PB> I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners > > > > PB> BrP > > > > And is probably as white as the driven snow So, you are fine with thinking about HIS ass. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 18:24:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JNOkWm017264 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:24:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:24:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F69EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:24:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:24:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3JNEjMI020751 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:14:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 89901 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Apr 2005 23:14:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:14:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI Message-ID: <20050419231444.GB87940@words-l.org> References: <200504191851.j3JIpkDK001991@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504191851.j3JIpkDK001991@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 02:51:46PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:48:38 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > > >appropriate background for one who became Defender of the Faith > > > >or to be more correct.... > > > >Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith > > > > > >4/19/2005, 12:34 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > >PB> One of his previous jobs: > > > >PB> professor of dogmatic theology and of the history of dogma > > > >PB> interesting title > > > We now no longer have to worry about what our late night evangelical > friends would say. Clearly this is the person they have long awaited, the > dragon (or whatever) who will battle the Antichrist. Either that or he IS > the antiChrist. One or the other; take your pick. All this rhetoric ... turning on a kneejerk response to the word "dogma" ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 18:42:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JNg5Wm019040 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:42:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:42:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F6A06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:42:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:42:04 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JNg4XC023684 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:42:04 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:42:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:41:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wouldn't it be nice if it were actually that simple? BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 04/19/05 7:14 PM >>> All this rhetoric ... turning on a kneejerk response to the word "dogma" ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 18:55:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JNsjWm020537 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:54:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:55:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F6A33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:54:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:54:44 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JNii5Y024010 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:44:44 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3JNiT7j018439 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:44:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Catalan Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am having trouble finding samples of Catalan speech - any suggestions? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 19:00:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3JNxvWm020978 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:00:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:00:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F6A47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:59:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:59:56 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3JNxuAv025763 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:59:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.8]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050419235956.FLBN1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:59:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42659B76.1040308@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:59:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I am having trouble finding samples of Catalan speech - any suggestions? > > I could give you the phone number of a good friend who is a native Catalan speaker if you want to call him (in Spain) and listen to him. But he's probably feeling less than chipper right now since his younger brother died last week. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 19:12:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3K0C9Wm022430 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:12:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F6C0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:02:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:02:06 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3K026DV026062 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:02:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.8]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050420000206.FLVA1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:02:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42659BF8.1020607@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:02:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I gather that this is a commercial venture, but near the bottom of the page there's something about downloading a speech sample: http://gps-tsc.upc.es/veu/LR/LR_SPD_CAT.php3 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 19:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3K0C9Wm022432 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:12:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F6C14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:04:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:04:04 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3K044pF026361 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:04:04 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:04:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:55 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: where Benedict XVI stands Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From Dominus Iesus http://tinyurl.com/81n1 Certainly, the various religious traditions contain and offer religious elements which come from God, and which are part of what "the Spirit brings about in human hearts and in the history of peoples, in cultures, and religions". Indeed, some prayers and rituals of the other religions may assume a role of preparation for the Gospel, in that they are occasions or pedagogical helps in which the human heart is prompted to be open to the action of God. One cannot attribute to these, however, a divine origin or an ex opere operato salvific efficacy, which is proper to the Christian sacraments. Furthermore, it cannot be overlooked that other rituals, insofar as they depend on superstitions or other errors (cf. 1 Cor 10:20-21), constitute an obstacle to salvation. Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 19:22:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3K0LwWm023197 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:22:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:22:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F6B91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:21:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:21:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3K0LvMR028727 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:21:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so5661nzo for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr17503nzt; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:21:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=U6Lu7/JlvvZjbMlg+yhkK20PfygSMlb6K0iD5nkgjz14JxX6aDK3T0pmx2gswsd/8SiBn45G32hfNxxxnOYG6I2CIRJydv1nLkbH0A5kz4P59dsOWomRRd14ca9aPRgKPL59bx2d+NfBfadY5plWwsKdiZ7v2vaBO/YgprqTtPo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705041917215f24e778@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:21:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3K0LwWm023197 Not really. On 4/19/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 01:47:50PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > I bet it's mottled. > > > > On 4/19/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > > > 4/19/2005, 12:18 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > > > PB> I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners > > > > > > PB> BrP > > > > > > And is probably as white as the driven snow > > So, you are fine with thinking about HIS ass. > -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 19:42:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3K0ftWm025174 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:42:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:42:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F6CA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:41:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 291055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:41:55 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3K0fsS7031450 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:41:54 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005042000415201500g9phme>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:41:53 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Hey, Adam! Interim report Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:41:52 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041909115c427715@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I expressed an interest in Sloan Wainwright because of a song > played on the radio--I don't remember what it was, now. I've listened to the > eponymously named CD a couple of times now, and I think I don't actually like > her! But I will listen to more. I can't quite figure out what I don't like--I keep > thinking I *should* like her. Oh, I have a ton of those kinds of artists for my taste. No sweat. If you don't like it, pawn it off on a friend. I'm glad you like the other stuff. I'm very excited to be seeing Hem this weekend. I just saw Tracy Grammer this past weekend and am listening to her new album right now. It's good. Her voice reminds me of Gloria Estefan without the accent. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 20:15:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3K1FhWm028165 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:15:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:15:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F6B69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:15:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:15:42 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3K1FgcB003637 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:15:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so15289wra for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.13.76 with SMTP id 76mr209712wrm; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:15:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lj7EbjPTLhUBXNiREdKIlUAoM70IYVQWyCHPLAN1VxdjLY0ZkdF2OcBhwlFUsNMumiguKN+4aCHdsaRec+s/83mw2wey5IL7L5/w2Y+xf0DmQ1tyWElxKnPdHtzU8qF+WI3VVuT5yFQCkXVCQNPw3WHUTn9jelxkV4mASV7c0U4= Message-ID: <83db447a050419181517be9e58@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:15:40 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: where Benedict XVI stands In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3K1FhWm028165 On 4/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > From Dominus Iesus > ... Furthermore, it cannot be overlooked that > other rituals, insofar as they depend on superstitions or other errors > (cf. 1 Cor 10:20-21), constitute an obstacle to salvation. So, when does the Crusade leave? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 21:34:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3K2XvWm003500 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:34:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:34:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F7446@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:33:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 308626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:33:56 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3K2XuUa017596 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:33:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F19844@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:33:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200504200233.j3K2XuUa017596@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:33:56 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:14:44 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 02:51:46PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:48:38 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >> >> >appropriate background for one who became Defender of the Faith >> > >> >or to be more correct.... >> > >> >Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith >> > >> > >> >4/19/2005, 12:34 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> > >> >PB> One of his previous jobs: >> > >> >PB> professor of dogmatic theology and of the history of dogma >> > >> >PB> interesting title >> >> >> We now no longer have to worry about what our late night evangelical >> friends would say. Clearly this is the person they have long awaited, the >> dragon (or whatever) who will battle the Antichrist. Either that or he IS >> the antiChrist. One or the other; take your pick. > > >All this rhetoric ... turning on a kneejerk response to the word >"dogma" ... Wrong; it was turning on the word "prefect", which I predict they'll misread as "perfect". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 19 21:46:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3K2kHWm004452 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:46:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:46:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1984A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:36:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 308694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:36:16 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3K2aG90018184 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:36:16 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F19897@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:36:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200504200236.j3K2aG90018184@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:36:16 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: where Benedict XVI stands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:03:55 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >From Dominus Iesus >http://tinyurl.com/81n1 > > >Certainly, the various religious traditions contain and offer religious >elements which come from God, and which are part of what "the Spirit >brings about in human hearts and in the history of peoples, in cultures, >and religions". Indeed, some prayers and rituals of the other religions >may assume a role of preparation for the Gospel, in that they are >occasions or pedagogical helps in which the human heart is prompted to >be open to the action of God. One cannot attribute to these, however, a >divine origin or an ex opere operato salvific efficacy, which is proper >to the Christian sacraments. Furthermore, it cannot be overlooked that >other rituals, insofar as they depend on superstitions or other errors >(cf. 1 Cor 10:20-21), constitute an obstacle to salvation. OK, I was willing to be neutral and accepting at first. But if he's going to quote Saul, I can see that we will not see eye to eye. clo From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 05:50:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KAomWm030497 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:50:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:50:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F7DD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 6:50:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:50:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KAolAE001771 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:50:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so189646nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 03:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.14 with SMTP id o14mr55873nzo; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 03:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 03:50:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=cXNcNLYKluNRS2SpvuidmJOV9h29reGWKvwflltc7baxrbqTU/5oxoj/Uol9Ct/OsDeiREleLCoeKevidtTKb8EkXizUDRnVce5Mzu8N8VoHm0FfopCVd1gI5PjfJLG11113wvOf1GNobCwRLNy5+kX90sWIfh1RioiDRwhOO/U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042003507afe38a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:50:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Funny Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KAomWm030497 If it weren't so sad. I think "spokesman for Tom DeLay" is a job I would not want. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=5&u=/ap/20050420/ap_on_go_co/delay_judges -- Karen "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 07:25:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KCP3Wm009548 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:25:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:25:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F1A6C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 8:15:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:15:02 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KCF2pY004480 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:15:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.163.20]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050420121502.DJRJ2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:15:02 -0400 Message-ID: <426647C4.5090508@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:15:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny References: <8ddfc8a705042003507afe38a2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042003507afe38a2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >If it weren't so sad. I think "spokesman for Tom DeLay" is a job I would not >want. > >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=5&u=/ap/20050420/ap_on_go_co/delay_judges > > There's an interesting DeLay chart here: http://houseofscandal.org/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 08:16:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KDGVWm016677 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:16:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:16:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F854C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 9:16:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 349591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:31 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KDGUsf016980 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:30 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:02 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: news flash from CDC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU what a relief! BrP >>> cwv@GWI.NET 4/20/2005 9:03:15 AM >>> http://tinyurl.com/alkkp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 08:21:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KDLZWm017234 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:21:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:21:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1AB4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 9:11:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:11:30 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KDBTVw015781 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:11:29 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-162-51.gwi.net [216.195.162.51]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3KDBQ7E082850 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:11:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:03:15 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: news flash from CDC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://tinyurl.com/alkkp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 08:29:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KDTcWm018018 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:29:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:29:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1ACA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 9:29:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:29:37 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KDTbi5019688 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:29:37 -0400 Received: from [129.44.186.5] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 88141933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:29:37 -0400 Message-ID: <426659AB.3040503@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:31:23 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: news flash from CDC References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/alkkp > The new analysis found that obesity — being extremely overweight — is indisputably lethal. But like several recent smaller studies, it found that people who are modestly overweight have a lower risk of death than those of normal weight. I'm sure this has been discussed before; but, don't we all have the same risk of death - once only? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 08:44:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KDiVWm019510 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:44:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:44:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1AF75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 9:44:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 356757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:39:33 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KDdVuX022389 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:39:32 -0400 Received: from mxfep02 ([195.54.107.73] [195.54.107.73]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050420133931.SXK3591.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:39:31 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: news flash from CDC Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:39:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050420133931.SXK3591.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://tinyurl.com/alkkp Thank you, Clyde! You made my day! That article is a keeper for my exercise room wall. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 08:52:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KDqBWm020557 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:52:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:52:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F89AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 9:52:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 358755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:52:10 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KDqAVV025554 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:52:10 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-160-165.gwi.net [216.195.160.165]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3KDq67E087245; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:52:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420094940.01c01670@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:52:03 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: news flash from CDC In-Reply-To: <426659AB.3040503@bc.edu> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> <426659AB.3040503@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KDqBWm020557 At 09:31 AM 4/20/2005, Rita Leonard wrote: >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >>http://tinyurl.com/alkkp > >> The new analysis found that obesity — being extremely overweight — is >> indisputably lethal. > >But like several recent smaller studies, it found that people who are >modestly overweight have a lower risk of death than those of normal weight. > >I'm sure this has been discussed before; but, don't we all have the same >risk of death - once only? Not exactly. We all, ultimately, achieve the same mortality rate (=1.0); the various risk statistics say something about how rapidly we are approaching that rate. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 09:00:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KE0AWm022010 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:00:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:00:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1B106@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:00:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 358421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:00:04 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KDo4Cn025046 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:50:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 56253 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 13:50:03 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:50:03 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird Message-ID: <20050420135003.GA54131@words-l.org> References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705041917215f24e778@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705041917215f24e778@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Do you mean "wouldn't it be nice if it were actually that simple"? On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 07:21:57PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Not really. > > On 4/19/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 01:47:50PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > I bet it's mottled. > > > > > > On 4/19/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > 4/19/2005, 12:18 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > > > > > PB> I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners > > > > > > > > PB> BrP > > > > > > > > And is probably as white as the driven snow > > > > So, you are fine with thinking about HIS ass. > > > > > > -- > Karen > "The older I get the more I realise how fluid an urban environment is." -- > Andy Goldsworthy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 09:16:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KEG5Wm024192 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F8A92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:10:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 360192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:10:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KE0iv3027889 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:00:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 60563 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 14:00:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:00:43 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny Message-ID: <20050420140043.GA60196@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705042003507afe38a2@mail.gmail.com> <426647C4.5090508@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <426647C4.5090508@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 07:15:00AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > There's an interesting DeLay chart here: > > http://houseofscandal.org/ BFD. I don't give a shit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 09:16:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KEG5Wm024191 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F897E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:01:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 358659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:01:55 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KDpp3T025480 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:51:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 56881 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 13:51:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:51:51 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more on Benedict XVI Message-ID: <20050420135151.GB54131@words-l.org> References: <200504200233.j3K2XuUa017596@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504200233.j3K2XuUa017596@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 10:33:56PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:14:44 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > >On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 02:51:46PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:48:38 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > >> > >> >appropriate background for one who became Defender of the Faith > >> > > >> >or to be more correct.... > >> > > >> >Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith > >> > > >> > > >> >4/19/2005, 12:34 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> > > >> >PB> One of his previous jobs: > >> > > >> >PB> professor of dogmatic theology and of the history of dogma > >> > > >> >PB> interesting title > >> > >> > >> We now no longer have to worry about what our late night evangelical > >> friends would say. Clearly this is the person they have long awaited, > the > >> dragon (or whatever) who will battle the Antichrist. Either that or he > IS > >> the antiChrist. One or the other; take your pick. > > > > > >All this rhetoric ... turning on a kneejerk response to the word > >"dogma" ... > > Wrong; it was turning on the word "prefect", which I predict they'll > misread as "perfect". You mean it's not actually that simple? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 09:16:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KEG5Wm024189 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F89EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 9:56:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 359496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:56:04 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KDu36B026571 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:56:03 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3KDu17Q010167 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:56:03 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3KDrk5H002558 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:53:50 -0400 Message-ID: <074201c545b0$623f8da0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: news flash from CDC Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:53:39 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 'A Wordslur reprieve! ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: news flash from CDC > http://tinyurl.com/alkkp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 09:19:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KEJhWm024510 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:19:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:19:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F8B5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:19:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 364232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:19:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KEJfIU000873 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:19:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so205356nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr75394nzb; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:19:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ryH+fxAThWuyW4fQjV2gDRq3JOuMHg2Z3yvgABtwfkN9oczjSW7RDbDiKGZ1ROSAuyESS9KYa760r1zscpYvgt1GTqEFszCeN2apV7x0BZEh3rVzfCJeLlJa6QQCo1D+PhGhkyf5in4argIMxTQQrX3dLj+fzHdcDWDwRloWbN4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042007193edaf289@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:19:41 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny In-Reply-To: <20050420140043.GA60196@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042003507afe38a2@mail.gmail.com> <426647C4.5090508@maynor.net> <20050420140043.GA60196@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KEJhWm024510 On 4/20/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 07:15:00AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > There's an interesting DeLay chart here: > > > > http://houseofscandal.org/ > > BFD. I don't give a shit. > I don't really, either, but I wonder what is so outrageous about using the Internet for research. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 09:35:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KEZZWm026098 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:35:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:35:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F1B540@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:35:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:35:34 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KEZXKO005446 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:35:33 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17001280 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:43:10 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:35:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:35:32 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1895742369.20050420083532@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Weird In-Reply-To: <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 173, in=70451, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 5:13 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> > PB> I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners >> > >> > PB> BrP >> > >> > And is probably as white as the driven snow DMH> So, you are fine with thinking about HIS ass. Nope. Never thought about it at all until this thread started. And can absofuckinglutely guarantee you that I never thought about YOUR ass until you made the comment above. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 09:36:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KEaQWm026187 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:36:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:36:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1B545@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:36:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:36:24 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KEaNBb005640 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:36:24 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 677C2576E4D24 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:36:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001b01c545b6$50b830e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> <426659AB.3040503@bc.edu> <6.2.0.14.0.20050420094940.01c01670@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: news flash from CDC Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:36:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:52 AM Subject: Re: news flash from CDC At 09:31 AM 4/20/2005, Rita Leonard wrote: >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >>http://tinyurl.com/alkkp > >> The new analysis found that obesity - being extremely overweight - is >> indisputably lethal. > >But like several recent smaller studies, it found that people who are >modestly overweight have a lower risk of death than those of normal weight. > >I'm sure this has been discussed before; but, don't we all have the same >risk of death - once only? Not exactly. We all, ultimately, achieve the same mortality rate (=1.0); the various risk statistics say something about how rapidly we are approaching that rate. cwv I remember my mother being told to not let herself get too thin as she grew older because if illness came she would not have the resources to fight it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 09:40:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KEePWm026571 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:40:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:40:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F8E74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 369626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KEeNet006520 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17069924 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:40:45 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:40:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:40:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <508003414.20050420084022@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: where Benedict XVI stands In-Reply-To: <200504200236.j3K2aG90018184@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504200236.j3K2aG90018184@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57099, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/19/2005, 8:36 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: CO> Furthermore, it cannot be overlooked that >>other rituals, insofar as they depend on superstitions or other errors >>(cf. 1 Cor 10:20-21), constitute an obstacle to salvation. CO> OK, I was willing to be neutral and accepting at first. But if he's going CO> to quote Saul, I can see that we will not see eye to eye. And why wouldn't a Pope quote Paul? (Saul if you prefer his former name) Here are the lines in question, in KJV 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. So couldn't you simplify this to something that applies to almost all aspects of life, namely "ya pays your money and takes your choice". Or in this case you don't even have to pay, unless the devil demands his due. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 10:12:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KFCFWm031219 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:12:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:12:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1B8C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:12:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 376536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:12:14 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KFCDgF014886 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:12:13 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17101857 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:36:12 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:12:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:12:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <09670856.20050420091212@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: news flash from CDC In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 169, in=59872, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, if your BMI is under 30 it could be considered a "reprieve", but not if it is over 30. 4/20/2005, 7:03 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> http://tinyurl.com/alkkp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 10:24:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KFO3Wm032338 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:24:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:24:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F907F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:24:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 378132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:24:03 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KFO3JA017449 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:24:03 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-160-165.gwi.net [216.195.160.165]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3KFNw0o044480; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:24:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420111501.01c013d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:23:54 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: news flash from CDC In-Reply-To: <20050420133931.SXK3591.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> References: <20050420133931.SXK3591.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:39 AM 4/20/2005, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/alkkp > >Thank you, Clyde! You made my day! That article is a keeper for my >exercise room wall. That's a good place for it. To me, the important passage in the article was the one that noted that many peple who are moderately overweight according to the standards are taking better care of themselves via intelligent eating, exercise, etc. I'm still in the "moderately overweight" class and probably always will be. However, in the last eight months or so I've knocked my cholesterol down about 75 points and managed to keep the little weight I've lost still lost. As far as I can tell, this is due to phpysical activity (lots of snow-shoveling, lots of walking) and a reasonably high soluble-fiber diet. cwv still a devout omnivore From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 10:42:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KFfuWm001077 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:42:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:42:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1BAD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:41:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:41:55 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KFfsOP021272 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:41:55 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so199346wra for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.77.16 with SMTP id z16mr902019wra; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:41:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qD2mYnpoqoppuany36McIBXhda6pDrxuGWdelpMe3+PZkrZQ2s0+6NUHZAdPxqGgWkmtLqHKycjtRry8TooruWiN1+9AHRSwRoQviIy7hn/uqulUwXqyLqDZu7JzqXJHDkf+RgTEJl38hHjXm0RO4CtSd5EcV9S1cd4xp08u6jE= Message-ID: <83db447a050420084165633bbf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:41:49 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: news flash from CDC In-Reply-To: <09670856.20050420091212@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> <09670856.20050420091212@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KFfuWm001077 On 4/20/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > Well, if your BMI is under 30 it could be considered a "reprieve", but > not if it is over 30. Which is pretty much what the article said (although they may revisit where the "obese" line needs to be drawn). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 11:27:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KGQsWm006321 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:26:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:27:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F92A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:26:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 385262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:26:54 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KGQr00031848 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:26:53 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:26:53 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:26:39 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: why he chose "Benedict" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I heard today that the new Pope chose the name because of St Benedict who is the patron St of Europe. It makes sense. incidentally, St. Benedict other patronages are: against nettle rash, against poison, against witchcraft, agricultural workers. coppersmiths, dying people, erysipelas, farm workers. farmers. fever, gall stones, inflammatory diseases, Italian architects, kidney disease, monks, nettle rash, people in religious orders, poison, schoolchildren, servants who have broken their master's belongings, speliologists, temptations, witchcraft (sorce: Patron Saints index at Catholic-forum.com) BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 11:49:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KGnBWm008026 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:49:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:49:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F94F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:49:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 386191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:49:10 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KGd9Xq001430 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:39:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 51422 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 16:39:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:39:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: news flash from CDC Message-ID: <20050420163908.GA50225@words-l.org> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> <074201c545b0$623f8da0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <074201c545b0$623f8da0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 09:53:39AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > 'A Wordslur reprieve! I support you 'Al, regardless of what you mean. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "clyde w. voigtlander" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:03 AM > Subject: news flash from CDC > > > >http://tinyurl.com/alkkp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 11:51:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KGosWm008139 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:50:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:51:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F933E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:50:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 387236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:50:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KGorRn003517 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:50:54 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so246191wra for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.66 with SMTP id 66mr543613wrc; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Stia4htgpBXB5+CefpUaBV7bv+QCMQet2osJF/1CmC/tuaARr2/Kr8wGiCB8ootruALzcF+CjsT0DtgOyRwooR/wIjZmx5mTGcYsuCfvFIDhE+QZYH27e7+/oHEv0m1TvovRo7sosxFAGQmWDzcxvOxv2VpTrLU9B7/rWDRNUTk= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:50:53 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: news flash from CDC In-Reply-To: <83db447a050420084165633bbf@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050420090124.01c02198@pop.gwi.net> <09670856.20050420091212@gailndan.com> <83db447a050420084165633bbf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KGosWm008139 > > > Well, if your BMI is under 30 it could be considered a "reprieve", but > > not if it is over 30. --Dan > > Which is pretty much what the article said (although they may revisit > where > the "obese" line needs to be drawn). > cwv > I think they may revisit where the overweight line is drawn. Right now they say that a BMI between 18.5 and 24.9 is "optimal" for your health. With this new evidence, it may be that a somewhat higher BMI is still optimal. The other term they use instead of "optimal" is a BMI over 25 being "a risk of associated diseases". Apparently, that's not true. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 11:56:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KGuGWm008593 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:56:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:56:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F9363@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:56:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 387741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:56:16 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KGuFFM004533 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:56:15 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BC5DF4CFB15E8 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:56:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:56:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: why he chose "Benedict" >I heard today that the new Pope chose the name because of St Benedict > who is the patron St of Europe. It makes sense. > > incidentally, St. Benedict other patronages are: > > against nettle rash, against poison, against witchcraft, agricultural > workers. coppersmiths, dying people, erysipelas, farm workers. farmers. > fever, gall stones, inflammatory diseases, Italian architects, kidney > disease, monks, nettle rash, people in religious orders, poison, > schoolchildren, servants who have broken their master's belongings, > speliologists, temptations, witchcraft > > (sorce: Patron Saints index at Catholic-forum.com) > > BrP Wanna hear something weird? I was looking for something to read on our ride home from Houston and my daughter gave me one of her books . . .Skeleton in God's Closet by Paul Maier, 1994. I've just started reading it. Pope John Paul II has just died and the new pope calls himself Benedict. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:11:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHAcWm010325 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:10:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:11:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F94C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:09:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 387998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:09:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KGxb4g005249 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:59:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 61443 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 16:59:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:59:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird Message-ID: <20050420165937.GB50225@words-l.org> References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> <1895742369.20050420083532@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1895742369.20050420083532@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 08:35:32AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/19/2005, 5:13 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> > PB> I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners > >> > > >> > PB> BrP > >> > > >> > And is probably as white as the driven snow > > DMH> So, you are fine with thinking about HIS ass. > > Nope. Never thought about it at all until this thread started. And > can absofuckinglutely guarantee you that I never thought about YOUR > ass until you made the comment above. I detect a lot of gratuitous protesting in this ... Dan, it's OK. The rest of words-l does it 24/7, you can too. We have more important things to think about. Like, what's the intended humor in "I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners". Or more fundamentally, what does it mean? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:11:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHAcWm010329 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:10:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:11:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F94AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:05:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 388640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:05:18 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KH5HUU006403 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:05:17 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1BE30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:05:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200504201705.j3KH5HUU006403@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:05:17 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Funny To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:19:41 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 4/20/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 07:15:00AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > >> > There's an interesting DeLay chart here: >> > >> > http://houseofscandal.org/ >> >> BFD. I don't give a shit. >> > >I don't really, either, but I wonder what is so outrageous about using the >Internet for research. > No, no - it's about doing your research over the internet. You should have your interns do it for you, and yell about what it means without reviewing it thoroughly or verifying it. the way it's done! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:11:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHAcWm010323 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:10:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:11:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9586@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:08:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 389005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:08:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KH8Z4B007126 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:08:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so301720nzo for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr94336nzb; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:08:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EfQd9/WqfjXFcKQtulepaYDgYtpIE5Ut+clMQKXZAoFW28xWpd3SwuvLpTA3w8cWMeSkLafoSxL8DpYukU7ziJvqex30rTLNRY0dAhXGKmYw8cCH8xn6t8wAeA9j9W48nEsnlwTDolmsQiGMVTOxdrr6EPU+nCHzlXrdkfLFpqg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050420100859e96ece@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:08:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny In-Reply-To: <200504201705.j3KH5HUU006403@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504201705.j3KH5HUU006403@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KHAcWm010323 On 4/20/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:19:41 -0500, A Friend of Andy > wrote: > > >On 4/20/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 07:15:00AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> > > >> > There's an interesting DeLay chart here: > >> > > >> > http://houseofscandal.org/ > >> > >> BFD. I don't give a shit. > >> > > > >I don't really, either, but I wonder what is so outrageous about using > the > >Internet for research. > > > > No, no - it's about doing your research over the internet. You > should have your interns do it for you, and yell about what it means > without reviewing it thoroughly or verifying it. the way it's > done! Silly me! It was of me to think better of Kennedy because he has some curiosity... -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:11:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHAcWn010329 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:11:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:11:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9591@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:10:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 389160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:10:30 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KHAUtn007490 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:10:30 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:10:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:10:26 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU um, because it was written in 1994 and accurately predicts the name of JP2's successor? >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/20/2005 1:00:35 PM >>> Why is this weird? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:11:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHAcWm010328 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:10:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:11:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9544@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:00:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 388115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:00:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KH0a91005420 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:00:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so290854nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr94587nzb; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:00:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BYTpnID4wTc7ixJRlr4BRsbWpH3GkRD4Uk8ugHgWrP+dzV1FxSBJRoEbMQng+WOz/4OYSYiaImBfYsRL0NxR4CPHaJZh3YKvPwy7iiMzL+fv+IGjBKYZvT8vZ/vXLLKRgCQnUFlXM28JH57de9QXehhTRVeuPz9qirw8ZLsjzFs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:00:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" In-Reply-To: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KHAcWm010328 On 4/20/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Wanna hear something weird? > > I was looking for something to read on our ride home > from Houston and my daughter gave me one of her > books . . .Skeleton in God's Closet by Paul Maier, > 1994. > > I've just started reading it. Pope John Paul II has > just died and the new pope calls himself Benedict. > Why is this weird? -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:11:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHAcWm010330 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:10:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:11:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9583@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:07:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 388960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:07:14 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KH7EKx006892 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:07:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1BE93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:07:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200504201707.j3KH7EKx006892@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:07:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: where Benedict XVI stands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:40:22 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >4/19/2005, 8:36 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >CO> Furthermore, it cannot be overlooked that >>>other rituals, insofar as they depend on superstitions or other errors >>>(cf. 1 Cor 10:20-21), constitute an obstacle to salvation. > >CO> OK, I was willing to be neutral and accepting at first. But if he's going >CO> to quote Saul, I can see that we will not see eye to eye. > >And why wouldn't a Pope quote Paul? (Saul if you prefer his former >name) Here are the lines in question, in KJV > >20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to >devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. >21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be >partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. > > >So couldn't you simplify this to something that applies to almost all >aspects of life, namely "ya pays your money and takes your choice". >Or in this case you don't even have to pay, unless the devil demands >his due. Thanks for this nice example of reducto ad absurdem, and also for making my point for me. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:25:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHP7Wm012226 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:25:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:25:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F93E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:15:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 389390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:15:07 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KHF79M008132 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:15:07 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:15:06 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:14:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Weird Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU it's not that deep (the thought I mean, not Micahel Jackson's ass) I take responsibility for bringing it up (the topic I mean, though it may also apply to everyone's lunch) It was the plastic surgery reference that I was following up on. BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/20/2005 12:59:37 PM >>> We have more important things to think about. Like, what's the intended humor in "I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners". Or more fundamentally, what does it mean? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:25:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHP7Wm012227 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:25:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:25:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F95B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:16:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 388937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:16:39 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KH6dFn006819 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:06:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 64677 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 17:06:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:06:38 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: where Benedict XVI stands Message-ID: <20050420170638.GC50225@words-l.org> References: <200504200236.j3K2aG90018184@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <508003414.20050420084022@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <508003414.20050420084022@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 08:40:22AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > >> 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye >> cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. > > > So couldn't you simplify this to something that applies to almost all > aspects of life, namely "ya pays your money and takes your choice". And maybe everything doesn't simplify to gritty down-home common sense loved by simple god-fearing people. Maybe what's meant here is that you can't logically be doing both things. You are deluding yourself if you think you are. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:30:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHUVWm012890 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:30:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:30:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9628@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:30:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 391271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:30:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KHUUAg012004 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:30:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so382871nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr98417nzb; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:30:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BxXY85wL8fvgPXtpPjVOaymv1frPWdIgjnkWkGSo0KXVx2q7RVImTHdyALnV4x9aDCxs26wCgPMsQgX6XYyf2CNv4MY6Mnrz84YTc2TjnlgPy55euplCXlbNG1rLLnMywAEE6BabPA0hKQUPASbz9+nH7vuryaqzD2rVh54rj2A= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042010303e4a5c0c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:30:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KHUVWm012890 On 4/20/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > um, because it was written in 1994 and accurately predicts the name of > JP2's successor? Oh, I thought she was just saying... Never mind. >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/20/2005 1:00:35 PM >>> > Why is this weird? > -- > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:31:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHVDWm012941 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:31:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:31:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F9572@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:31:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 391429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:31:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KHVDOI012319 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:31:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so369914nzf for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.55.11 with SMTP id d11mr106922nza; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:31:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YL32P7yLB6UizULUYfElnrz2nAJOSInj27Xg1t2bu/lxEKF/ldkBwbfl79vnpGGx3KAGxzNwi60A7ByNWTPp78p4ODojQ+ejiK4G7lUYZM/AxOjD6OaaXea9mzJn00DpSkdaE8bA+nJydiEo+OcYfzemMaMNwteqSTED7ZVJd4c= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:31:13 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trek In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3KHVDOI012320 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Bush rides a Trek - anyone else? I don't ride the Trek on my porch, but that's only because I have not made time to have it fixed up (the chain is always slipping and the tires are probably flat). When I asked the nice bicycle salescritter to show me something sturdy and reliable in Gainesville about ten years ago, he showed me this Trek. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:34:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHY5Wm013259 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:34:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:34:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F9584@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:34:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 391726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:34:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KHY4Iv012912 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:34:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so306407nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.13 with SMTP id j13mr97614nzj; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:34:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Gm6Vj6g2U228xRXnZyQDr8pIi6BIrpnh69YJcZmawOQ5oBvlfRyjNumYcKntgR+k22xCTt9k8uhHzfScc4jz+hLAd55d2lCpowuMnphvi4aPHESs7iSKjx/FTPmK3RNBhANQDSN3SEntzWgfDMKln+HElbALwzYyeXZusoTW5Kc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042010344b130c61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:34:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trek In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KHY5Wm013259 On 4/20/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > Bush rides a Trek - anyone else? > > I don't ride the Trek on my porch, but that's only because I have not > made time to have it fixed up (the chain is always slipping and the > tires are probably flat). When I asked the nice bicycle salescritter > to show me something sturdy and reliable in Gainesville about ten > years ago, he showed me this Trek. I live across the street from mountain bike trails and most of the bikes I see are Treks. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:54:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHrvWm015151 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:53:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:54:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F96CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:53:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 393838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:53:57 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KHruSn017161 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:53:57 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17093373 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:54:17 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:54:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:53:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <897877338.20050420115355@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57238, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/20/2005, 10:26 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> I heard today that the new Pope chose the name because of St Benedict PB> who is the patron St of Europe. It makes sense. Other sources reported the main reason was due to Benedict XV, who was something like 1914-21, during another period of war, and a number of other similarities to present times. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 12:54:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KHrvWn015151 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:54:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:54:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F969B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:47:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 392989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:47:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KHl1jD015444 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:47:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so390719nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.20 with SMTP id t20mr99929nzt; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:47:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=oO+pRYpOmGqi35+rYQolJ21tkwYdYu2Dd8teKI4tQDb230KGzW/3TuEpQERNmjvVL/JkhhhXQ7cwLLX0JIpfDT/alI2B5T/+JW9ZIpxaC5megioYrYtXYArkmNl5adptyRcWy7FtMula/uJ2xOsY3g5qdc/TdSvkqmsotM3zkp4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504201047f51b512@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:47:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Hey, Tushar!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KHrvWn015151 Have you seen the Virgin Mary yet? -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 13:13:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KIDoWm017573 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:13:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:13:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1C1B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:13:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 396242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:13:36 -0400 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com (imo-m25.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KIDasl021598 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:13:36 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.1a1.322131f3 (3956) for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:13:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1a1.322131f3.2f97f5c7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:13:27 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] news flash from CDC To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 4/20/2005 9:36:31 AM Central Daylight Time, dmarkld@INEBRASKA.COM writes: << I remember my mother being told to not let herself get too thin as she grew older because if illness came she would not have the resources to fight it. >> Mom was too thin for the past 20-25 years. My sister would always harp on me to get Mom to eat more, but nothing I tried ever worked. Mom was simply not hungry most of the time. And when Dad died, she was so depressed that she went down to 69 pounds; that's why we didn't think she was dying until a couple of weeks before she did die: we thought she was depressed over having to give up Bennie. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 13:34:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KIXrWm019511 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:33:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:34:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9835@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:33:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 398409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:33:53 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KIXrfI027034 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:33:53 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3KIXk7W020369 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:33:53 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3KIVw5H000371 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:31:59 -0400 Message-ID: <080501c545d7$3d052640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a70504201047f51b512@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hey, Tushar!!! Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:31:57 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" > "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures > abroad > and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't > stand." -- Molly Ivins "Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right, you meet the same idiots coming around from the left." -- Oakland native Clint Eastwood, in the Feb. 28 issue of Time From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 13:40:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KIekWm020220 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:40:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:40:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F96AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:40:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 399062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:40:45 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KIehaf028915 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:40:44 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so414578nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr104467nzb; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:40:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rJ5aNtNGPL7pKdlFLDceN/9OghOCg7ifi3s8cgU6lherNa12Y25eRkG10fh4KiWhnhVse+dm5Vs8Q6R5EtEA1IRzTjZL6DUhGZmFVGPp8aligXbpEzKXM1Osr9P6VD/XZa+0e8A/4J4ZpB4Kb2MsvkshJs33Rr+lsbmEeiTJi+Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042011403f756a41@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:40:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Tushar!!! In-Reply-To: <080501c545d7$3d052640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70504201047f51b512@mail.gmail.com> <080501c545d7$3d052640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KIekWm020220 On 4/20/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > > > "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures > > abroad > > and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't > > stand." -- Molly Ivins > > "Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't > take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right, you meet the > same idiots coming around from the left." > > -- Oakland native Clint Eastwood, in the Feb. 28 issue of Time > That's pretty funny, considering the source(s). -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 13:42:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KIgIWm020374 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:42:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:42:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F1C35C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:42:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 399203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:42:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KIg8ut029250 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:42:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so403618nzf for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.59.18 with SMTP id h18mr115612nza; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.5.8 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:40:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DBCYSPRpRJgkZu6e8KkS98VdGLRJG5Ms7ve9bXVMLLXe/Zz5FCq8B/sC3Bfy0uZEzDN02XU6XRWr+ApmebZKwwHElXfzJiPpXuY/c0m/VOSkhlTgk+mETzaLopFOtnoqReJKGR9lchr871mVNM1+Niw6zxY/S8zGvx7Ng7quuQg= Message-ID: <3c1d5b50050420114079c7aeee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:40:24 +0200 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Visiting Sweden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3KIg9ut029251 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tomorrow at 7AM I'm off to Borås to give a talk. Back again Friday afternoon, and I can visit the shopping mall Norstan in Gothenburg on my way home to get some Swedish delicacies such as pickled fried herring - this is unavailable in Norway afaik. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 13:53:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KIrhWm021880 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:53:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:53:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F97EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:53:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 400003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:53:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KIrfU5032128 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:53:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so420197nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.14 with SMTP id o14mr105989nzo; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:53:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BzVW/ClxCb8SYNRKq3JmE14iKUQ0D5JwTJyFeNuxRQ5UZRjDQ1FUf8/ypMJMeKCcv/RjH8v3Om0sGS4D17tNmHLWyVKpx8A5FEKAxOH5zTI37/m3k0mEBReRuSS3K9WJ1jdityCXkNhDT59WKV3GOmPADZtMPeX6jeOrLJ7CGfM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042011532460136@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:53:41 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Visiting Sweden In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b50050420114079c7aeee@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <3c1d5b50050420114079c7aeee@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KIrhWm021880 On 4/20/05, Espen Ore wrote: > > Tomorrow at 7AM I'm off to Borås to give a talk. Back again Friday > afternoon, and I can visit the shopping mall Norstan in Gothenburg on > my way home to get some Swedish delicacies such as pickled fried > herring - this is unavailable in Norway afaik. > First fried and then pickled? Or pickled and then fried? I wish I liked herring better than I do. What are you talking about? -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 13:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KIxhWm022526 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:59:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:59:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F982F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:59:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 400828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:59:42 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KIxecR001588 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:59:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.119]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050420185935.HSXK2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:59:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4266A694.2080506@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:59:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I've just started reading it. Pope John Paul II has > just died and the new pope calls himself Benedict. Hmm. What happens after that? Maybe JR read it and liked it and chose the name for that reason. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:01:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KJ0eWm022631 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:00:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:00:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F9734@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:00:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 400915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:00:39 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KJ0cxc001877 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:00:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.119]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050420190038.HUDS2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:00:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:00:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>I've just started reading it. Pope John Paul II has >>just died and the new pope calls himself Benedict. >> >> >Why is this weird? > > It's not as if JP->Benedict successions occur just every day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:22:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KJMbWm025657 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:22:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:22:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9959@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:18:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 402451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:18:47 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KJIkDe005954 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:18:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.119]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050420191846.IOGG2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:18:46 -0400 Message-ID: <4266AB14.2050807@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:18:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>>Why is this weird? >>> >>> >>It's not as if JP->Benedict successions occur just every day. >> >> > >No, but one happened to occur when she was reading her book. Sort of like me > > Which is why it was weird -- or at least that's what I thought the point was. Maybe I'm confused. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:22:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KJMbWm025661 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:22:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:22:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F973D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:02:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 401162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:02:36 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KJ2ZkH002553 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:02:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.119]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050420190235.HWPF2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:02:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4266A749.6060601@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:02:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny References: <200504201705.j3KH5HUU006403@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504201705.j3KH5HUU006403@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>I don't really, either, but I wonder what is so outrageous about using >> >> >the > > >>Internet for research. >> >> >No, no - it's about doing your research over the internet. You > > I thought it was about how judges should spend all their time with noses stuck in the constitution and not risk getting tainted by looking at outside info. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:22:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KJMbWm025660 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:22:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:22:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9905@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:04:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 401255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:04:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KJ4ft4002947 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:04:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so344189nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr106052nzc; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:04:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IW6IDNXm8EAnVF1JvP0J7EDa/RrpjCX3lB+1O0ibNPi5ZGrkyqdOdhCQiX0a8zJ1NGn7sw71F+YlsmALuhlRsBhXEhtCPG5p/eUNCiYivYA1Kld01UynJHrM0nAKVGcXPQBMehcb2/F6cVq98emZsVN9m3A7fgZZEGo1bD4iCn0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:04:40 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" In-Reply-To: <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KJMbWm025660 On 4/20/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>I've just started reading it. Pope John Paul II has > >>just died and the new pope calls himself Benedict. > >> > >> > >Why is this weird? > > > > > It's not as if JP->Benedict successions occur just every day. > No, but one happened to occur when she was reading her book. Sort of like me listening to Dan Brown. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:25:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KJPYWm025964 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:25:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:25:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1C52E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:25:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 402139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:25:33 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KJFVvo005199 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:15:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 30625 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 19:15:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:15:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Tushar!!! Message-ID: <20050420191530.GA29329@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70504201047f51b512@mail.gmail.com> <080501c545d7$3d052640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <080501c545d7$3d052640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 02:31:57PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > > >"I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures > >abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts > >I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins > > "Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't > take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right, you meet the > same idiots coming around from the left." > > -- Oakland native Clint Eastwood, in the Feb. 28 issue of Time Slam dunk! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:33:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KJXdWm027200 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:33:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:33:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F980D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:33:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 403016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:33:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KJNbbP006918 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:23:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 34233 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 19:23:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:23:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny Message-ID: <20050420192337.GB29329@words-l.org> References: <200504201705.j3KH5HUU006403@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <4266A749.6060601@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4266A749.6060601@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 02:02:33PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >>I don't really, either, but I wonder what is so outrageous about using > >> > >> > >the > > > > > >>Internet for research. > >> > >> > >No, no - it's about doing your research over the internet. You > > > I thought it was about how judges should spend all their time with noses > stuck in the constitution and not risk getting tainted by looking at > outside info. I wonder what all the outrage and near-speechless fury and general running around like a decapitated chicken is a symptom of. E.g. could it be the promise of unbridled power hitting a check? And isn't it out of fashion by about 10 years? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:40:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KJdsWm028051 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:39:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:40:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1C584@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:39:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 404549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:39:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KJdq83010450 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:39:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so440465nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr110626nzb; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:39:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UE3hsfi6Taq/1cSi//q89t6ozcGDm4txE227kkvfzAMzoY12M5OEFFtHILppZkqwZPprPoJJo5c0kDKQwnclESl+Ll7ludt6AaiOb82NvSAyRHc5YkOdBdvKVM1AaofG0aFuYrvOYEk+zJbK8nOnkm+E2hCXro7Tmp5WbbioV5Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042012391903e61d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:39:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Tushar!!! In-Reply-To: <20050420191530.GA29329@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70504201047f51b512@mail.gmail.com> <080501c545d7$3d052640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050420191530.GA29329@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KJdsWm028051 But please do address my question. On 4/20/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 02:31:57PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A Friend of Andy" > > > > >"I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures > > >abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts > > >I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins > > > > "Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It > doesn't > > take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right, you meet the > > same idiots coming around from the left." > > > > -- Oakland native Clint Eastwood, in the Feb. 28 issue of Time > > Slam dunk! > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:45:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KJitWm028830 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:45:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:45:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F9811@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:34:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 403226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:34:54 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KJOrxn007365 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:24:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 35174 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 19:24:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:24:53 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" Message-ID: <20050420192453.GC29329@words-l.org> References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 02:04:40PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 4/20/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > >>I've just started reading it. Pope John Paul II has > > >>just died and the new pope calls himself Benedict. > > >> > > >> > > >Why is this weird? > > > > > > > > It's not as if JP->Benedict successions occur just every day. > > > No, but one happened to occur when she was reading her book. > Sort of like me listening to Dan Brown. Karen--kindly take a break. This is getting surreal. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:45:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KJitWm028828 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:45:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:45:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F9942@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 404777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KJgRRp010937 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:42:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so361632nzo for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr110188nzt; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:42:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=I5HipgFQ8HtML8XEalExG9FqPXX/WYxrSWfz8+xY2YdJN5/j9vGt5t0hjNcCs9+FSqHIqLl3Vd0hwhnthRweZLzaJZIWBPABaYiDBcdbqUmlyO/UsM8IYEx+6vkJJA26vVmxMoGt82oAH+7W7lZdvDUAHasB1ssm+1qMhRQXLeU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050420124231bd4d58@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:42:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" In-Reply-To: <20050420192453.GC29329@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> <20050420192453.GC29329@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KJitWm028828 On 4/20/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 02:04:40PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 4/20/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > >>I've just started reading it. Pope John Paul II has > > > >>just died and the new pope calls himself Benedict. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Why is this weird? > > > > > > > > > > > It's not as if JP->Benedict successions occur just every day. > > > > > > No, but one happened to occur when she was reading her book. > > Sort of like me listening to Dan Brown. > > Karen--kindly take a break. This is getting surreal. > But my life is surreal. I want you to share in it! -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:45:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KJitWm028831 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:45:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:45:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F983C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:41:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 404650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:41:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KJfaAO010710 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:41:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so359339nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr109872nzc; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:41:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GqcIKqVdcIYDNTg4VUyOMZGSVh2SiS1NoF3hiyDZvvCKmVpSETRDndsmKT6lmHqBKeaTvqJ5gqV3NcLIesuaACMnlMk2waJOlp7uDl1tImzIet49M/rL+U1yvPGfKyGJJXc/c2EEydZj7n3eO6aSYiRDefTjDZel7BIkQarXXok= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042012415a30b64b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:41:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" In-Reply-To: <4266AB14.2050807@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> <4266AB14.2050807@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KJitWm028831 On 4/20/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>>Why is this weird? > >>> > >>> > >>It's not as if JP->Benedict successions occur just every day. > >> > >> > > > >No, but one happened to occur when she was reading her book. Sort of like > me > > > > > Which is why it was weird -- or at least that's what I thought the point > was. Well, yes. But I couldn't tell from what she wrote that she was talking about the book. Maybe I'm confused. Work is bizarrely unpleasant these days, so it's probably me. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 15:00:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KK0LWm030819 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:00:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:00:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1C711@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:00:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 407460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:00:20 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KK0Fge016205 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:00:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17136334 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:22:58 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:59:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:58:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <446363755.20050420135854@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Weird In-Reply-To: <20050420165937.GB50225@words-l.org> References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> <1895742369.20050420083532@gailndan.com> <20050420165937.GB50225@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.322000 Adult word fucking=0.7,Adult word fuck=0.7 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 169, in=60061, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/20/2005, 10:59 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> We have more important things to think about. Like, what's the DMH> intended humor in "I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners". DMH> Or more fundamentally, what does it mean? I've got no fucking clue, as I didn't say it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 15:00:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KK0LWm030817 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:00:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:00:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9AC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:00:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 407455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:00:16 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KK0Fgc016205 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:00:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17136495 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:24:17 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:00:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:00:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <467863335.20050420140014@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Weird In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 169, in=60064, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Actually, Michael Jackson is the first cousin of SpongeBob SquarePants, thus the corners. 4/20/2005, 11:14 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> it's not that deep (the thought I mean, not Micahel Jackson's ass) I PB> take responsibility for bringing it up (the topic I mean, though it may PB> also apply to everyone's lunch) It was the plastic surgery reference PB> that I was following up on. PB> BrP >>>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/20/2005 12:59:37 PM >>> PB> We have more important things to think about. Like, what's the PB> intended humor in "I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners". PB> Or more fundamentally, what does it mean? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 15:05:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KK5YWm031594 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F9A8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:05:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 408837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:05:33 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KK5W8D017760 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:05:33 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 340C358CB1649 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c545e4$4b310150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> <4266AB14.2050807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042012415a30b64b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: why he chose "Benedict" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:05:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, yes. But I couldn't tell from what she wrote that she was talking about the book. Maybe I'm confused. Work is bizarrely unpleasant these days, so it's probably me. -- Karen I went back and read my post and can see that you wouldn't necessarily realize I was quoting the plotline of the book. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 15:21:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KKLlWm000524 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:21:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:21:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F9B7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:21:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 413631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:21:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KKLkTQ022163 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:21:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so375763nzo for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr114680nzb; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:21:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=G44cJRzSpTwRxeLa+1JXUX2++c4UmAFM+AdIZVK57fIPxUEUYmCz/DXWwTAPtNgCVBJV64Nulylw8dFYwuWWWB74FFOHhOx8ayg0xnn0yXuS20V7896UiZWUJlDKfhxa7pnQ61f97126cftO6oFpZ92uHF4fVbPxRSzhzsSk70M= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050420132115f69dcd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:21:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" In-Reply-To: <000c01c545e4$4b310150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> <4266AB14.2050807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042012415a30b64b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c545e4$4b310150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KKLlWm000524 On 4/20/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Well, yes. But I couldn't tell from what she wrote that she was talking > about the book. > > Maybe I'm confused. > > Work is bizarrely unpleasant these days, so it's probably me. > -- > Karen > > I went back and read my post and can see that > you wouldn't necessarily realize I was quoting > the plotline of the book. > Thank you. But work remains bizarrely stressful. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 15:33:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KKWtWm001708 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:33:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:33:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F9D46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:32:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 415501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:32:55 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KKWrJn024220; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:32:54 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 95874779; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:32:53 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050420133207.00b650c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:32:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Visiting Sweden In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042011532460136@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c1d5b50050420114079c7aeee@mail.gmail.com> <3c1d5b50050420114079c7aeee@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3KKWsJn024224 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:53 PM 4/20/2005 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 4/20/05, Espen Ore wrote: > > > > Tomorrow at 7AM I'm off to Borås to give a talk. Back again Friday > > afternoon, and I can visit the shopping mall Norstan in Gothenburg on > > my way home to get some Swedish delicacies such as pickled fried > > herring - this is unavailable in Norway afaik. > > > >First fried and then pickled? Or pickled and then fried? > >I wish I liked herring better than I do. > >What are you talking about? Herring. Duh! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 15:36:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KKZtWm001994 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:35:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:36:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F9C52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:35:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 415623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:35:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KKZrLh024594 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:35:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so380666nzo for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr116109nzb; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:35:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=agNmFQn8z3BSpomOHPHC/zPrDM4EPX8KbHubmn5uMCmcI0yRR1sqxdka2titLM8uuNPeC8KYFkY5Zwjqqke8gd9hCltUpMQQkNlRCB60f4Fpo0LeaHaQU0lglyOvr6CRgOSXKjesapgAgXDs0PD4rkHaT/bd5YQLM6m51QBKA1c= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042013357e2e222b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:35:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Visiting Sweden In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050420133207.00b650c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <3c1d5b50050420114079c7aeee@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705042011532460136@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050420133207.00b650c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KKZtWm001994 On 4/20/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 01:53 PM 4/20/2005 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >On 4/20/05, Espen Ore wrote: > > > > > > Tomorrow at 7AM I'm off to Borås to give a talk. Back again Friday > > > afternoon, and I can visit the shopping mall Norstan in Gothenburg on > > > my way home to get some Swedish delicacies such as pickled fried > > > herring - this is unavailable in Norway afaik. > > > > > > >First fried and then pickled? Or pickled and then fried? > > > >I wish I liked herring better than I do. > > > >What are you talking about? > > Herring. Duh! I sincerely doubt it. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 15:44:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KKiRWm002849 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:44:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:44:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9E2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:44:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 415587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:44:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KKYNVe024449 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:34:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 78510 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 20:34:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:34:22 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" Message-ID: <20050420203422.GA77676@words-l.org> References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> <20050420192453.GC29329@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050420124231bd4d58@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050420124231bd4d58@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 02:42:24PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > But my life is surreal. I want you to share in it! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ There goes the surreality. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 15:44:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KKigWm002903 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:44:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:44:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1CB56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:44:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 415592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:44:41 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KKYcGm024477 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:34:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 78556 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 20:34:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:34:38 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird Message-ID: <20050420203438.GB77676@words-l.org> References: <467863335.20050420140014@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <467863335.20050420140014@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 02:00:14PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Actually, Michael Jackson is the first cousin of SpongeBob > SquarePants, thus the corners. HA!!!!!!!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 15:45:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KKjqWm003080 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:45:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:45:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005F9E35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:45:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 415622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:45:52 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KKZoAi024588 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:35:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 78958 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 20:35:50 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:35:50 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird Message-ID: <20050420203550.GC77676@words-l.org> References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> <1895742369.20050420083532@gailndan.com> <20050420165937.GB50225@words-l.org> <446363755.20050420135854@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <446363755.20050420135854@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 01:58:54PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/20/2005, 10:59 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> We have more important things to think about. Like, what's the > DMH> intended humor in "I'll bet Michael Jackson's ass has corners". > DMH> Or more fundamentally, what does it mean? > > I've got no fucking clue, as I didn't say it. In one sentence, you have invalidated Lit departments the world over. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 15:46:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KKkjWm003168 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:46:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:46:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005F9D75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:46:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 415671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:46:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KKaihu024724 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:36:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 79540 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 20:36:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:36:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Tushar!!! Message-ID: <20050420203644.GD77676@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70504201047f51b512@mail.gmail.com> <080501c545d7$3d052640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050420191530.GA29329@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705042012391903e61d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042012391903e61d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 02:39:51PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > But please do address my question. What question? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 17:49:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KMnSWm015489 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:49:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:49:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F9FCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:49:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 426418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:49:27 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KMnQuA015580 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:49:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17128263 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:49:47 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:49:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:49:25 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1573783215.20050420164925@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: where Benedict XVI stands In-Reply-To: <20050420170638.GC50225@words-l.org> References: <200504200236.j3K2aG90018184@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <508003414.20050420084022@gailndan.com> <20050420170638.GC50225@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=57445, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/20/2005, 11:06 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>> 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye >>> cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. >> >> >> So couldn't you simplify this to something that applies to almost all >> aspects of life, namely "ya pays your money and takes your choice". DMH> And maybe everything doesn't simplify to gritty down-home common DMH> sense loved by simple god-fearing people. Maybe what's meant here DMH> is that you can't logically be doing both things. You are deluding DMH> yourself if you think you are. I was just trying to get it down to terms simple enough that I knew YOU could understand them. I know they say pigs are the smartest animal, but they've still got a ways to go to catch up to humans. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 17:51:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KMpnWm015664 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:51:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:51:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FA197@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:51:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 426525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:51:49 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KMpmU3016003 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:51:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17156529 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:15:53 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:52:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:51:47 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <487787629.20050420165147@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hey, Tushar!!! In-Reply-To: <080501c545d7$3d052640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <8ddfc8a70504201047f51b512@mail.gmail.com> <080501c545d7$3d052640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.047000 Subject has lots of exclamation marks=1.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 169, in=60155, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/20/2005, 12:31 PM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> And when you go far enough to the right, you meet the AW> same idiots coming around from the left. That's sure nothing new. The circle is shown in every polisci 101 class ever taught, isn't it? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 17:52:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KMqeWm015787 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:52:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:52:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005F9FD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:52:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 426556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:52:40 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KMqdWQ016102 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:52:39 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17156620 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:16:44 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:52:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:52:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9810599920.20050420165238@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Visiting Sweden In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042011532460136@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c1d5b50050420114079c7aeee@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705042011532460136@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 169, in=60157, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/20/2005, 12:53 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> First fried and then pickled? Or pickled and then fried? AFoA> I wish I liked herring better than I do. I love herring, pickled, in cream, fried, etc. But haven't run into this combo myself, either. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 17:56:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KMu0Wm015995 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:56:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:56:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FA1A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:55:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 426699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:55:59 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KMtxZi016492 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:55:59 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16935239 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:09:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:56:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:55:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1458149795.20050420165558@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Weird In-Reply-To: <20050420203550.GC77676@words-l.org> References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> <1895742369.20050420083532@gailndan.com> <20050420165937.GB50225@words-l.org> <446363755.20050420135854@gailndan.com> <20050420203550.GC77676@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.322000 Adult word fucking=0.7,Adult word fuck=0.7 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 173, in=58518, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/20/2005, 2:35 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> I've got no fucking clue, as I didn't say it. DMH> In one sentence, you have invalidated Lit departments the world over. Right on. And that's exactly why I didn't get an MA or PhD in English Literature. I got the BA and got so sick of microanalyzing every fucking thing so that it became meaningless....that I got a library degree instead. Plus it pays better than teaching in the university anyway. And is much more interesting. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 18:05:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KN4uWm017039 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:04:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:05:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FA00D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:04:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 427460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:04:56 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KN4ujo017943 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:04:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.184.101]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050420230456.ZXMV2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:04:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4266E015.1000608@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:04:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: YaY, Benedict! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Congressman Patrick Kennedy's visit to Mississippi has been > postponed. Congressman Kennedy and Family have a meeting with Pope > Benedict XVI this weekend in Rome, Italy. Thank you, El Papa! My life lately has gotten way, way, way too crammed. Removing a reception for Patrick Kennedy from it helps. I think I'm getting too involved in stuff. My calendar is getting out of control. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 18:06:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KN6MWm017179 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:06:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:06:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FA00F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:06:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 427519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:06:22 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KN6LlI018109 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:06:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.184.101]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050420230621.ZYEI2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:06:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4266E06B.70103@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:06:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> <4266AB14.2050807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042012415a30b64b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c545e4$4b310150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000c01c545e4$4b310150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I went back and read my post and can see that > you wouldn't necessarily realize I was quoting > the plotline of the book. Am I mutant for having assumed that you were talking about the plotline of the book? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 18:21:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KNLAWm018545 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:21:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:21:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FA1AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:21:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 429211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:21:10 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KNL9IY020369 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:21:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.184.101]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050420232109.FYV2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:21:09 -0400 Message-ID: <4266E3E3.6050306@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:21:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Scripture Reading for the Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Bush is my shepherd, I shall dwell in want. > He maketh logs to be cut down in national forests. > He leadeth trucks into the still wilderness. > He restoreth my fears. > He leadeth me in the paths of international disgrace for his ego's sake. > Yea, though I walk through the valley of pollution and war, I will find > no exit, for thou art in office. > Thy tax cuts for the rich and thy media control, they discomfort me. > Thou preparest an agenda of deception in the presence of thy religion. > Thou annointest my head with foreign oil. > My health insurance runneth out. > Surely megalomania and false patriotism shall follow me all the days of > thy term. > And my jobless child shall dwell in my basement forever From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 18:22:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KNMBWm018674 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:22:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:22:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FA278@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:22:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 429332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:22:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KNMApc020562 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:22:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so424681nzo for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr129122nzb; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:22:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=k7yXAzE/4sqkhHjGBEU50B9n84U0TDOFBrAAlgpkspmecS0hrtZFf9wrtvXCB6ZeACNd3k+BqXCUOvv6MI1P8w9F66uvVQL/mhVE11NjY9fiufab0zSWhKQWItqfi+gRUxVX6IKnE1he2FnHRcDewsroLw3qcXeoq8vF///g3w8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042016223ed92dfa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:22:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" In-Reply-To: <4266E06B.70103@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> <4266AB14.2050807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042012415a30b64b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c545e4$4b310150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4266E06B.70103@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3KNMBWm018674 On 4/20/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Doris Markland wrote: > > > I went back and read my post and can see that > > you wouldn't necessarily realize I was quoting > > the plotline of the book. > > Am I mutant for having assumed that you were talking about the plotline > of the book? > For the 3rd time, NO. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 18:43:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KNhaWm020970 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:43:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:43:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FA2D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:43:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 429917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:43:36 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KNXZF6022045 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:33:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 71085 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 23:33:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:33:34 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: where Benedict XVI stands Message-ID: <20050420233334.GA70917@words-l.org> References: <200504200236.j3K2aG90018184@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <508003414.20050420084022@gailndan.com> <20050420170638.GC50225@words-l.org> <1573783215.20050420164925@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1573783215.20050420164925@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 04:49:25PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/20/2005, 11:06 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>> 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye > >>> cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. > >> > >> > >> So couldn't you simplify this to something that applies to almost all > >> aspects of life, namely "ya pays your money and takes your choice". > > DMH> And maybe everything doesn't simplify to gritty down-home common > DMH> sense loved by simple god-fearing people. Maybe what's meant here > DMH> is that you can't logically be doing both things. You are deluding > DMH> yourself if you think you are. > > I was just trying to get it down to terms simple enough that I knew > YOU could understand them. I know they say pigs are the smartest > animal, but they've still got a ways to go to catch up to humans. Yet another down home commonsense piece of wisdom! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 18:44:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3KNiqWm021036 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:44:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:44:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FA2D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:44:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 430005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:44:52 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3KNYnRh022230 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:34:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 72009 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Apr 2005 23:34:49 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:34:49 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird Message-ID: <20050420233449.GB70917@words-l.org> References: <19810548129.20050419124218@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70504191147867985c@mail.gmail.com> <20050419231307.GA87940@words-l.org> <1895742369.20050420083532@gailndan.com> <20050420165937.GB50225@words-l.org> <446363755.20050420135854@gailndan.com> <20050420203550.GC77676@words-l.org> <1458149795.20050420165558@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1458149795.20050420165558@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 04:55:58PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/20/2005, 2:35 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> I've got no fucking clue, as I didn't say it. > > DMH> In one sentence, you have invalidated Lit departments the world over. > > Right on. And that's exactly why I didn't get an MA or PhD in English > Literature. I got the BA and got so sick of microanalyzing every > fucking thing so that it became meaningless....that I got a library > degree instead. Plus it pays better than teaching in the university > anyway. And is much more interesting. Since I can't know what the fuck you are saying, I don't give a shit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 20:05:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3L153Wm029826 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:05:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:05:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FA3B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:05:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 434494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:05:02 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3L151KF002919 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:05:01 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.166.70]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421010501.ERCE22125.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:05:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.166.70]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050421010501.RGDH1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:05:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4266FC3B.8010801@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:04:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> <4266AB14.2050807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042012415a30b64b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c545e4$4b310150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4266E06B.70103@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042016223ed92dfa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042016223ed92dfa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Am I mutant for having assumed that you were talking about the plotline >> >>of the book? >> >> > >For the 3rd time, NO. > > The 3rd time? I asked the question only once and am thus wondering why you sent three answers to it, the first two of which I didn't see. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 21:49:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3L2nYWm007652 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:49:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:49:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FA4B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:39:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 439774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:39:31 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3L2dV40015520 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:39:31 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CE4A43EFFDB7 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:39:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001401c5461b$57adb3b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000601c545c9$d9c449b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70504201000505bc4fb@mail.gmail.com> <4266A6D4.8030904@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70504201204415f3c1a@mail.gmail.com> <4266AB14.2050807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042012415a30b64b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c545e4$4b310150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4266E06B.70103@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: why he chose "Benedict" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:39:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: Re: why he chose "Benedict" > Doris Markland wrote: > >> I went back and read my post and can see that >> you wouldn't necessarily realize I was quoting >> the plotline of the book. > > Am I mutant for having assumed that you were talking about the plotline > of the book? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) No. You were right on. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 20 22:16:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3L3G9Wm011132 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:16:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:16:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FA638@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:16:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 443282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:16:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3L3G1t9020004 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:16:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so576559nzp for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr142955nzb; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:16:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=iEFCq02IvZ68JcOf91rHoRSySpDLbkfaDEefUWd0ZhDlz42uioWW3i+XXebKNnjml4Z7D54g6UcqjdJ5X19Vf0PEa+bOgYIH1od6hHIHsBeol4vTknrHDfwD0DucdE966aA0qye4qe9PKc0bjDBlQCcdakl+yrxfVNdLScQYYP0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:16:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Sometimes I hate living in Texas Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3L3G9Wm011132 http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1693271,00.html Anti-gay foster parenting bill. It was disgusting to watch someone say "It's a learned behavior" and that we don't want them to learn it. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 06:54:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LBsJWm008410 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:54:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:54:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1E11E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 7:44:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 464445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:44:19 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LBiIbF028070 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:44:18 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so561019wra for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 04:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.42.15 with SMTP id p15mr2939264wrp; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 04:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 04:44:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JxJBk5z4MFmhPvbCgn9cQJz14zLePv+8twvC7aBDYWOeePhSbkoKQJoI67YmOrhdhYCamXeLsa38QLm1YdJ2LeWmg5TcwafY1c7iGaX539NXDu/RlPvIMQ3S8u+mo6jf7P95ijstrAItK1SHNuyyOJDydxJp2HaEUZRTuKI1Kvk= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:44:18 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3LBsJWm008410 > > http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1693271,00.html > > Anti-gay foster parenting bill. > > It was disgusting to watch someone say "It's a learned behavior" and that > we > don't want them to learn it. -- Karen > Not that Maine is free of prejudice, but it was really heartening yesterday morning to sit in our Pop'n'Pop local coffee shop and listen to every local who came in ecstatically welcome back Bryan and Shawn from their three months away. These guys are not merely accepted. They are truly loved. Bryan gave me a big hug when I welcomed him home yesterday morning. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 07:08:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LC84Wm010014 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:08:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:08:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1E16F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 8:08:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 465752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:08:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LC84lT031764 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:08:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so717995nzp for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 05:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr175751nzb; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 05:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 05:08:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=snCNgImROf6ZdcQyNYfsx6HXtyVpJLScbkBB07mN2Pq0/78dx2Z2Cydzt3tYHL//Hqahw7pBgyVohh7uX6n6dwcC6o75p8evvmyxUlaFPIpLo3m63BTZSpJ3O3VwbiUStijrJbfoSDVZE/prYntrkWqqggH+nVdGVQ9ypEX7Qnc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042105087f0e479e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:08:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3LC84Wm010014 On 4/21/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Not that Maine is free of prejudice, but it was really heartening > yesterday > morning to sit in our Pop'n'Pop local coffee shop and listen to every > local > who came in ecstatically welcome back Bryan and Shawn from their three > months away. These guys are not merely accepted. They are truly loved. > Bryan > gave me a big hug when I welcomed him home yesterday morning. > That's the silly part--the foster care system needs every body they can find. It's the legislators, not the people of Texas, that seem to have the problem. I'm not going to trot out stories of how well loved our local gay. lesbian, and transsexuals are. Take it as read. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 07:19:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LCJWWm010935 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:19:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:19:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F1E204@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 8:19:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 466373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:19:32 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LCJWHY000791 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:19:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.118]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421121932.KKKG1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:19:32 -0400 Message-ID: <42679A51.8040002@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:19:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas References: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >Not that Maine is free of prejudice, but it was really heartening yesterday >morning to sit in our Pop'n'Pop local coffee shop and listen to every local >who came in ecstatically welcome back Bryan and Shawn from their three >months away. These guys are not merely accepted. They are truly loved. Bryan >gave me a big hug when I welcomed him home yesterday morning. > > My visitor from Iowa and I were talking at some point during his visit about legalities of using real names in books, and I mentioned a book I read five or six years ago about gay life in Mississippi -- about the various people named in it. We moved from there to talking about our childhood memories of gays, and we concluded that it some ways there seemed to be more acceptance of gays back then -- acceptance by the kind of people who seem homophobic now. We talked about how it might have been because most gays probably stayed in the closet and nobody assumed they were gay, leaving just a few obvious gays in the community, but that those few obvious ones seemed to be well liked. Bob (from Iowa but originally from Mississippi) was talking about some he knew in his little South Mississippi town and how some of the middle-aged, upper-classed women would often go places with these gay men -- would use them as escorts for parties or plays that their husbands didn't want to go to -- that the husbands were happy not to have to go and saw no threat to their marriages from these gay escorts, etc. I remember some pretty obvious gays in Jackson, people my mother knew at the Little Theater, and there didn't seem to be any hostility at all toward them from anybody. Iow, our memories of olden days were like what you're saying here about Bryan and Shawn. Do any of you have similar memories of Then and Now? Note that this is *not* a tale of "the good ole days" in the sense that things were necessarily then. Many gays were no doubt leading very difficult , etc. It's just an observation. (And, of course, as Bob pointed out, this acceptance was of adult gays. Little boys and teenagers who were "sissies" were made fun of.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 07:39:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LCd3Wm012813 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:39:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:39:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FADCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 8:23:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 466575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:23:28 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LCNRGp001357 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:23:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.118]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421122327.KMAV1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:23:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42679B3D.1060703@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:23:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas References: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705042105087f0e479e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042105087f0e479e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: > It's the legislators, not the people of Texas, that seem to have the >problem. > > I should add re the story I just told of my recent conversation that the homophobic people we were talking about aren't people we know personally -- they're the people who write Letters to the Editor about God vs Gays, the people who stuck Bush signs in their yards because of "moral values," etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 07:47:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LClNWm013717 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:47:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:47:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1E2F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 8:47:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 469059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:47:23 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LClMK0005879 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:47:22 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:47:22 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:46:50 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well we ARE dangerous BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/21/2005 8:23:25 AM >>> -- they're the people who write Letters to the Editor about God vs Gays, the people who stuck Bush signs in their yards because of "moral values," etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 07:49:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LCndWm013974 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:49:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:49:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FADA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 8:49:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 469337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:49:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LCnctc006522 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:49:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so54063nzp for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 05:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr178249nzb; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 05:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 05:49:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KgtIkWys5928HoeV6hjWMcY2Zt/FCUvR+34azoNLf0cC505SG5BelvzRsozXk7hfH7FS3JBEnlO8KsFeLtL8wXvNdOT3cmKImoBYSCeW/8C9uBX8OCFVcWzJjvqljGAUHAHbEHUXDc6lk05OeRIwZosfw7wvQN7XYmcExA3inlM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050421054955407fee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:49:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3LCndWm013974 On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Well we ARE dangerous > Yes, loving parents are a threat to bigots everywhere. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 07:54:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LCrxWm014389 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:54:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:54:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FAEBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 8:53:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 469667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:53:58 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LCrwnE007395 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:53:58 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3LCru7W007343 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:53:58 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3LCpl5H022799 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:51:48 -0400 Message-ID: <083801c54670$e1eb8fc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Fw: FW: Work Ethics? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:51:47 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We've all read this one... it came around again, and I've had lingering thoughts since the last time I'd read it: Who wins the prize: the accolade of owning the greatest coincident number of those transgressions? How do these statistics change with each congress? What is the ratio of conservative to liberal in each category? How do they look geographically? ;-) *** Can you imagine working for an organization that has a little more than 500 employees with the following statistics: 29 have been accused of spousal abuse 7 have been arrested for fraud 19 have been accused of writing bad checks 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses ! 3 have done time for assault 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges 8 have been arrested for shoplifting 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year Can you guess which organization this is? It's the 535 members of the United States Congress. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 07:59:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LCx0Wm014745 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:59:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:59:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FAFA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 8:58:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 470180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:58:59 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LCwxof008150 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:58:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:58:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:58:47 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: empty bowls Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think this is a wonderful idea! >You are invited to the Empty Bowls Dinner on Saturday April 23 from 1-6pm. The event's goal >is to raise $10,000 for Syracuse's Interreligious Food Consortium (IFC). A $10 >contribution includes a soup dinner, served in a beautifully handcrafted ceramic bowl that is >yours to take home, live music, prize raffle, and guest speakers. You can buy tickets at the >door. This is a local event that is part of the Empty Bowls Project http://www.emptybowls.net/ I know several of the artists who have made bowls BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 08:15:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LDEqWm016993 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:14:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:14:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FAE18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 9:04:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 471051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:04:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LD4pZ3009514 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:04:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so59621nzp for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr179550nzb; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Qth+3rT1i6WPKJTnnAJRUCd538bk/vavu7vPBRUDG7CvcTXoY/UKV+rR8vhxdJcZUldqLajx1F2umP0+fSQ9JjX7YUXwrsZXrLtS3dGt1czabPOYDBobe9wSpiY0WGbUgp6D+b+OG/e2CFCIwx4p617rImmZcVFyLpKANqaeS20= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050421060421e4e547@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:04:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fw: FW: Work Ethics? In-Reply-To: <083801c54670$e1eb8fc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <083801c54670$e1eb8fc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3LDEqWm016993 On 4/21/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > We've all read this one... it came around again, and I've had lingering > thoughts since the last time I'd read it: Who wins the prize: the accolade > of owning the greatest coincident number of those transgressions? My guess is Tom DeLay. > What is the ratio of conservative to liberal in each category? Why would this matter? -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 08:24:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LDOEWm017783 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:24:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:24:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FAE86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 9:24:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 472760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:24:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LDODCl013142 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:24:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so67192nzp for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr179473nzc; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 06:24:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BcnX+9YUJ6uCx+59ZB0MV10ne3fGvukjxnFA/WR6p1AW/WCeo2iLSlwYvNj7Iah6/x/OT6lz2plW9MrWhhcLNvLrnArecgZ94itwORP3nqOKZGVmROV/2f3zHWmhkMcpYWN2v6fbVJNO/WTsbJK/D5VJYNBFBecFgv8jN0aKvDU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050421062471e5c792@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:24:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: empty bowls In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3LDOEWm017783 Me, too. On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I think this is a wonderful idea! > > >You are invited to the Empty Bowls Dinner on Saturday April 23 from > 1-6pm. The event's goal > >is to raise $10,000 for Syracuse's Interreligious Food Consortium > (IFC). A $10 > >contribution includes a soup dinner, served in a beautifully > handcrafted ceramic bowl that is > >yours to take home, live music, prize raffle, and guest speakers. You > can buy tickets at the > >door. > > This is a local event that is part of the Empty Bowls Project > http://www.emptybowls.net/ > > I know several of the artists who have made bowls > > BrP > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 09:15:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LEFBWm024367 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:15:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:15:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F1E768@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:15:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 478309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:15:11 -0400 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LEFBGY024627 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:15:11 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.a9.71fc5721 (4426) for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:15:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:15:05 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Scripture Reading for the Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 4/21/2005 12:34:39 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: My health insurance runneth out. Or doubles in cost. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 09:18:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LEILWm024712 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:18:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:18:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FB1D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:18:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 478549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:18:21 -0400 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LEILF9025167 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:18:21 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id c.111.48a3f300 (4426) for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:18:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <111.48a3f300.2f99101d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:18:05 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Sometimes I hate living in Texas To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 4/21/2005 6:44:46 AM Central Daylight Time, bonniemaev@GMAIL.COM writes: << Not that Maine is free of prejudice, but it was really heartening yesterday morning to sit in our Pop'n'Pop local coffee shop and listen to every local who came in ecstatically welcome back Bryan and Shawn >> It sounds great! Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 11:42:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LGgEWm009070 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:42:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:42:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FB643@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:42:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 493335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:42:14 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3LGWDb2024136 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:32:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 94998 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Apr 2005 16:32:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:32:13 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas Message-ID: <20050421163213.GA91334@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050421054955407fee@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050421054955407fee@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 07:49:35AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > Well we ARE dangerous > > > > Yes, loving parents are a threat to bigots everywhere. I don't have anything to say. But I wanted to participate in this thread and feel really GOOD. And now I do! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 13:17:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LIHVWm020180 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:17:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:17:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FB6FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:17:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 504216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:17:31 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LIHVM1007643 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:17:31 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F1F2C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:17:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200504211817.j3LIHVM1007643@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:17:31 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:32:13 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 07:49:35AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> > >> > Well we ARE dangerous >> > >> >> Yes, loving parents are a threat to bigots everywhere. > >I don't have anything to say. But I wanted to participate >in this thread and feel really GOOD. And now I do! This is good news! I have been wanting you to feel really GOOD. And now I do! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 13:18:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LIIhWm020281 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:18:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:18:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FB802@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:18:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 504389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:18:43 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LIIhRV007983 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:18:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.112]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421181843.PTAC2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:18:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4267EE80.7000706@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:18:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Kermit the Frog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did I mention that I'm a Kermit 2? Or maybe not exactly the frog -- but the person the frog was named for. I may be a 1 rather than a 2 since I have a very vague memory of Kermit when he was a young philosophy instructor my freshman year in college, but I don't know that I actually ever had a conversation with him -- probably I didn't. I'm definitely a 2, though, since he's the ex brother-in-law of the friend who was here from Iowa recently and since I also knew Kermit's sister when Bob and his then-wife were living in Starkville. I don't know that I've seen her since then. They've been divorced for many years. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 13:32:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LIWEWm022052 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:32:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:32:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FB924@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:32:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:32:14 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LIWDXH011067 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:32:13 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:32:13 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:31:34 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great Scott !! BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/21/2005 2:18:40 PM >>> Did I mention that I'm a Kermit 2? Or maybe not exactly the frog -- but the person the frog was named for. I may be a 1 rather than a 2 since I have a very vague memory of Kermit when he was a young philosophy instructor my freshman year in college, but I don't know that I actually ever had a conversation with him -- probably I didn't. I'm definitely a 2, though, since he's the ex brother-in-law of the friend who was here from Iowa recently and since I also knew Kermit's sister when Bob and his then-wife were living in Starkville. I don't know that I've seen her since then. They've been divorced for many years. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 13:51:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LIpoWm024127 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:51:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:51:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1F3ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:51:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:51:49 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LIpkVi015125 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:51:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17213546 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:52:06 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:50:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:50:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1301906313.20050421125026@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Scripture Reading for the Day In-Reply-To: <4266E3E3.6050306@maynor.net> References: <4266E3E3.6050306@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=57938, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Gee, you'd think these contemporary liberals would at least do a take off on a translation more modern than King James. Or are they really closet conservatives? 4/20/2005, 5:21 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Bush is my shepherd, I shall dwell in want. >> He maketh logs to be cut down in national forests. >> He leadeth trucks into the still wilderness. >> He restoreth my fears. >> He leadeth me in the paths of international disgrace for his ego's sake. >> Yea, though I walk through the valley of pollution and war, I will find >> no exit, for thou art in office. >> Thy tax cuts for the rich and thy media control, they discomfort me. >> Thou preparest an agenda of deception in the presence of thy religion. >> Thou annointest my head with foreign oil. >> My health insurance runneth out. >> Surely megalomania and false patriotism shall follow me all the days of >> thy term. >> And my jobless child shall dwell in my basement forever From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:11:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LJBUWm027113 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:11:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:11:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1F52B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:11:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 510167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:11:28 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LJBRmX019734 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:11:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17245541 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:35:47 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:59:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:59:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1156014047.20050421125929@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fw: FW: Work Ethics? In-Reply-To: <083801c54670$e1eb8fc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <083801c54670$e1eb8fc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.230000 Eliminate Bad Credit=1.2 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 170, in=60590, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm certainly not defending the behavior of most of the assholes on The Hill, but....I'm not sure a lot would be different if you looked at 500 people down at the local factory, or even at the university. 4/21/2005, 6:51 AM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> Can you imagine working for an organization that has a little more than 500 AW> employees with the following statistics: AW> 29 have been accused of spousal abuse AW> 7 have been arrested for fraud AW> 19 have been accused of writing bad checks Accused and arrested are NOT the same as being convicted. Anyone can accuse anyone of anything...and abuse and such are particularly common during nasty divorces. I know. AW> 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses ! What does "directly or indirectly" mean? And bankruptcy isn't necessarily a bad thing. AW> 3 have done time for assault AW> 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit I bet that one's true on campus too. AW> 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges AW> 8 have been arrested for shoplifting Again, anyone can be arrested. Were they convicted? AW> 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits AW> 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year Same here.... As noted, there are lots of assholes there and elsewhere....but a lot of this is blowing smoke... And finally....who voted for these assholes? NONE of them are from ANY of our districts or states? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:14:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LJE5Wm027395 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:14:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:14:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FB978@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:06:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:06:02 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LJ61fT018538 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:06:01 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-162-249.gwi.net [216.195.162.249]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3LJ5t7E048830; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:06:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421150234.01c11398@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:03:17 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:31 PM 4/21/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Great Scott !! Brad! Janet! Rocky! Dr. Scott! Brad! etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:14:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LJE5Wm027394 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:14:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:14:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FB873@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:05:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:05:00 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LJ4xek018350 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:04:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.112]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421190500.RIED2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:05:00 -0400 Message-ID: <4267F958.7020007@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:04:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Great Scott !! > > No, Kermit Scott. And his sister was Martha Scott. Bob was telling me that when Jim Henson died, news people kept calling Kermit to try to get phone numbers of family members, etc., and that Kermit kept trying to convince them that he did not know anything at all like that -- that he had not communicated with Jim Henson since they were about eleven years old. (Kermit had been tracked down by the media when JH had first told the story of Kermit's name, but he had not tried to get in touch with JH or vice versa.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:14:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LJE5Wm027396 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:14:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:14:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FB898@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:09:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:09:27 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LJ9RBi019306 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:09:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.112]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421190926.RLWR2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:09:26 -0400 Message-ID: <4267FA64.5030809@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:09:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas References: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> <42679A51.8040002@maynor.net> <79688189.20050421125516@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <79688189.20050421125516@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> Bob (from Iowa but >NM> originally from Mississippi) > >And I thought no true mississippian would ever move away... > > ? That's absurd. Many jobs require it. It's hard to be editor of a NYC magazine or newspaper, for example, while living in Mississippi -- or at least that has been traditionally the case -- that may be changing. And there are quite a few more Mississippians with PhDs in English than there are jobs in English Departments in Mississippi (to name what this particular person's profession is), etc. etc. I also didn't say whether he is or isn't a "true Mississippian." I'm not positive about that, though I think he probably is (and thus will return when he is able to). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:14:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LJE5Wm027393 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:14:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:14:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FB96F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:04:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:04:04 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LJ43Lw018246 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:04:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17144462 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:09:52 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:55:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:55:16 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <79688189.20050421125516@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Sometimes I hate living in Texas In-Reply-To: <42679A51.8040002@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> <42679A51.8040002@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=71099, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/21/2005, 6:19 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> We talked about how it might have NM> been because most gays probably stayed in the closet and nobody assumed NM> they were gay, leaving just a few obvious gays in the community, but NM> that those few obvious ones seemed to be well liked. Hmmmm....don't ask, don't tell....and then I won't have to be uncomfortable, and we know southerners love their local "eccentrics"... NM> Bob (from Iowa but NM> originally from Mississippi) And I thought no true mississippian would ever move away... NM> was talking about some he knew in his NM> little South Mississippi town and how some of the middle-aged, NM> upper-classed women would often go places with these gay men -- would NM> use them as escorts for parties or plays that their husbands didn't want NM> to go to -- that the husbands were happy not to have to go and saw no NM> threat to their marriages from these gay escorts, etc. Hey, that still happens. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:39:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LJdXWm030917 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:39:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:39:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F1F63D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:29:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 511561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:29:32 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LJTW4g023482 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:29:32 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:29:32 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:29:22 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No, T. Kermit Scott BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/21/2005 3:04:56 PM >>> Paul Barfoot wrote: >Great Scott !! > > No, Kermit Scott. And his sister was Martha Scott. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:39:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LJdXWm030919 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:39:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:39:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1F658@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:33:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 511919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:33:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LJXLUt024365 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:33:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so898596nzp for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.6 with SMTP id g6mr82569nzg; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:33:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nR1jnT3EcDVwARyNg4YB5etWSDQ/I+Xh458a00jCvcIEnzowsB2LcZtCNYrZ2KwvxVz+To5PB8TcwEiaC6H4bBogpQ9S0pWzDf5JKhjW8atySteT+SI6llDpMgMwIoPrGMG/wEG+HGUYJX2mceLVEkb9/8/Fsj/EQLhZjbJfbEM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050421123371efade6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:33:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3LJdXWm030919 This guy? http://www.biblio.com/books/3445095.html On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > No, T. Kermit Scott > > BrP > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/21/2005 3:04:56 PM >>> > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >Great Scott !! > > > > > No, Kermit Scott. And his sister was Martha Scott. > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:41:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LJf0Wm031087 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:41:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:41:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F1F6C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:40:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 512758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:40:59 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LJexYu026448 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:40:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:40:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:40:24 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU yup BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/21/2005 3:33:21 PM >>> This guy? http://www.biblio.com/books/3445095.html On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > No, T. Kermit Scott > > BrP > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/21/2005 3:04:56 PM >>> > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >Great Scott !! > > > > > No, Kermit Scott. And his sister was Martha Scott. > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:53:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LJrmWm032442 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:53:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:53:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1F712@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:49:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 513574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:49:31 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LJnVOc028240 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:49:31 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:49:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:49:15 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU reminds me of the old joke - What's green and smells like Miss Piggy? >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/21/2005 3:43:47 PM >>> Kewl! Do you know what Kermit's genitalia look like? On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > yup > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/21/2005 3:33:21 PM >>> > This guy? http://www.biblio.com/books/3445095.html > > On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > No, T. Kermit Scott > > > > BrP > > > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/21/2005 3:04:56 PM >>> > > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > >Great Scott !! > > > > > > > > No, Kermit Scott. And his sister was Martha Scott. > > > > -- > Karen > "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures > abroad > and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I > can't > stand." -- Molly Ivins > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 14:53:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LJrmWm032443 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:53:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:53:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F1F699@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:43:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 513083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:43:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LJhlgw027070 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:43:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so24917nzo for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.20 with SMTP id o20mr220316nzo; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:43:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jvLCOfOzrukcQgHEWyhAmg6yabFmM/+9wu6/tNtWBgwa7RQ79lRaokEzxVBEiJGLlMX0vM9ABqtxEz5MoomR8GmZ1wz4O8+IacSnaYFwIw+NepXkk9wnAfYpDfryTccfEzi2/ZjnkPYv/tFmef9y/K1489Jaof/LE6FMzhYsQ8w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042112431bf5ad42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:43:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3LJrmWm032443 Kewl! Do you know what Kermit's genitalia look like? On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > yup > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/21/2005 3:33:21 PM >>> > This guy? http://www.biblio.com/books/3445095.html > > On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > No, T. Kermit Scott > > > > BrP > > > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/21/2005 3:04:56 PM >>> > > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > >Great Scott !! > > > > > > > > No, Kermit Scott. And his sister was Martha Scott. > > > > -- > Karen > "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures > abroad > and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I > can't > stand." -- Molly Ivins > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 15:04:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LK4gWm001168 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:04:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:04:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FBBD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:04:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 514913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:04:37 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LK4bmQ032108 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:04:37 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:04:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:04:12 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: the perfect gift Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What do you get the new Pope who has everything? http://tinyurl.com/972vf BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 15:17:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LKHBWm002888 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:17:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:17:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FBA1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:07:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 515151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:07:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LK7AjQ032715 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:07:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so911604nzp for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr223115nzb; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:07:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nqdmGMPU/e2YK7dv4Ks99qI8pDcM35y6uUYVo7BehN9C7wV4dW8zFm+lVWD0MseBqKCMllnIRdxvAhVB5TVFxVdbcbwd80VVvazavwc0Jx8mJj8JA3zWGA7Q4Gipyw5kcecJnFsiZqg/UZqwrIC8Rw2G62obfHPO0RD5e//lWtA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504211307547fd885@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:07:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3LKHBWm002888 Kermit's face? On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > reminds me of the old joke - > What's green and smells like Miss Piggy? > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/21/2005 3:43:47 PM >>> > Kewl! > > Do you know what Kermit's genitalia look like? > > On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > yup > > > > BrP > > > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/21/2005 3:33:21 PM >>> > > This guy? http://www.biblio.com/books/3445095.html > > > > On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > > > No, T. Kermit Scott > > > > > > BrP > > > > > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 4/21/2005 3:04:56 PM >>> > > > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > > > >Great Scott !! > > > > > > > > > > > No, Kermit Scott. And his sister was Martha Scott. > > > > > > > -- > > Karen > > "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable > adventures > > abroad > > and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I > > can't > > stand." -- Molly Ivins > > > > -- > Karen > "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures > abroad > and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I > can't > stand." -- Molly Ivins > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 15:21:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LKLEWm003475 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:21:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:21:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FBA73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:21:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:21:14 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LKLDH0003145 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:21:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.112]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421202113.YBGQ1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:21:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42680B36.9010209@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:21:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog References: <8ddfc8a7050421123371efade6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050421123371efade6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >This guy? http://www.biblio.com/books/3445095.html > > Sounds plausible since philosophy is his field, but that url doesn't say anything about him other than his name. I've forgotten where he teaches now -- one of the regional universities in Louisiana, I think -- maybe the one in Lafayette -- or maybe the one in Natchitoches -- or maybe not. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 15:22:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LKMkWm003695 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:22:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:22:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F1F86F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:22:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:22:46 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LKMjon003449 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:22:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.112]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421202245.YCVJ1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:22:45 -0400 Message-ID: <42680B92.6040209@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:22:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog References: <8ddfc8a705042112431bf5ad42@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042112431bf5ad42@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Do you know what Kermit's genitalia look like? > > I can ask my friend Bob if he ever saw his bol's genitalia. If not, then I can surely get Kermit's sister's e-mail address and ask her. Surely she saw them in childhood. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 15:38:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LKcmWm005604 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:38:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:38:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FBAB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:28:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 517168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:28:47 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LKSluU004792 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:28:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.112]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421202847.YIGD1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:28:47 -0400 Message-ID: <42680CFC.8020302@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:28:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Kermit the Frog References: <8ddfc8a7050421123371efade6@mail.gmail.com> <42680B36.9010209@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42680B36.9010209@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I've forgotten where he teaches > now -- one of the regional universities in Louisiana, I think -- maybe > the one in Lafayette -- or maybe the one in Natchitoches -- or maybe not. I just remembered that it's not. I think he did teach at one of the places a while back but is at Purdue now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 15:42:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LKgrWm006168 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:42:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:42:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FBCCC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:42:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 518317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:42:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LKgqTq007479 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:42:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so158946nzp for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.13 with SMTP id j13mr225202nzj; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:42:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EL3S/JxL6xW4JAwOmBmoJRsECougM0n8blySAJmXwBxc3D/MFGSDrgJivhF6iplox/djyk/Eywnh4Bk1oB/0HSoiSgXHYhUNnPq5SnVV5x1y2U+xFa+s1fWm4iqa7zAs26beyRguyGYnoIh4hGR+14LHyvpjDXoMzExZmD6k8e4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050421134231a1e0fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:42:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Cool!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3LKgrWm006168 I have always wondered! http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/04/21/popcorn.secret.ap/index.html -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 16:24:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LLO4Wm011753 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:24:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:24:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FBC2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:24:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 521769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:24:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LLO3SS014747 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:24:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so664906wri for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.5.61 with SMTP id 61mr94002wre; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:24:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sFPwXfKQ5s9VVJh55o+o5jFxSxbuvZZAOyCGV/UtTDaUCPlcipeEPcNoXVhU1Y0jJkGd+9VKfJfluNCAokYmnq8Ge3En29Z+mvDvyz9hxAVI/MnWNnMYg2Elp4MrB5KpPyCKoKjIUxlSRiL3u5CR2Fo05Q7DC+CDWUF5mjWRk3s= Message-ID: <83db447a05042114249235bf2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:24:03 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the perfect gift In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3LLO4Wm011753 On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > What do you get the new Pope who has everything? Does that mean that there already is a panzer in his garage? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 16:30:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LLUJWm012498 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:30:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:30:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FBE00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:30:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 522102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:30:18 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LLUIse015888 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:30:18 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17161497 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:36:10 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:28:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:28:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <199754542.20050421152818@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Sometimes I hate living in Texas In-Reply-To: <4267FA64.5030809@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> <42679A51.8040002@maynor.net> <79688189.20050421125516@gailndan.com> <4267FA64.5030809@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=71155, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/21/2005, 1:09 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>And I thought no true mississippian would ever move away... >> >> NM> ? That's absurd. Of course it is. But you didn't think that was absurd when you went on in that vein a month or so ago when talking about someone who moved to California or whatever. But I know it is impossible to call you on your BS, so forget it. I have. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 16:52:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LLpxWm014979 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:52:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:52:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FBF98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:51:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:51:59 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LLpwrH019805 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:51:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17264594 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:16:20 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:52:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:51:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <9910121936.20050421155158@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the perfect gift In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 170, in=60680, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And if you start from the base URL you'll find some other most fascinating things.... How about some little panties with this stenciled on the front... What Would Jesus Do? And a number of other equally funny and/or offensive things....sort of the Archie McPhee of religious stuff. Maybe a Jesus soap on a rope? A tank top saying "Heathen"? Jesus in the Garden with an automatic weapon? dan 4/21/2005, 2:04 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> What do you get the new Pope who has everything? PB> http://tinyurl.com/972vf From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 16:53:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LLrAWm015114 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:53:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:53:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FBDD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:53:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:53:10 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LLr9YX019968 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:53:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17237484 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:53:30 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:53:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:53:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1961749958.20050421155308@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Kermit the Frog In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504211307547fd885@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70504211307547fd885@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=58096, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think the question was for the answer already given a la Jeopardy. See last line below. But your version works too. 4/21/2005, 2:07 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Kermit's face? AFoA> On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> >> reminds me of the old joke - >> What's green and smells like Miss Piggy? >> >> >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/21/2005 3:43:47 PM >>> >> Kewl! >> >> Do you know what Kermit's genitalia look like? >> From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 17:08:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LM7uWm017098 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:08:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:08:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FBFB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:07:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:07:56 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LM7ujC022360 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:07:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.108.214]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421220756.WLIW2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:07:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42682438.5080307@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:07:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas References: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> <42679A51.8040002@maynor.net> <79688189.20050421125516@gailndan.com> <4267FA64.5030809@maynor.net> <199754542.20050421152818@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <199754542.20050421152818@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >>>And I thought no true mississippian would ever move away... >>> >>> >NM> ? That's absurd. > >Of course it is. But you didn't think that was absurd when you went >on in that vein a month or so ago when talking about someone who moved >to California or whatever. > > Get your facts straight, please. I was talking about Beth Henley, who as a successful playwright can presumably live wherever she wants to and thus could live in Mississippi. As Morgan Freeman has said on various occasions, he is able to live where he wants to because he is a successful actor, meaning he has money and freedom, except of course when he has to be somewhere for filming. >But I know it is impossible to call you on your BS, so forget it. I >have. > > I don't know what BS you're talking about, but please do not distort my words. At no time have I ever suggested that true Mississippians never move elsewhere. They do for various reasons. Sometimes young people move around to see what life is like in other places. And many, many, many people move where they need to move because of their jobs. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 18:23:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LNNhWm025304 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:23:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:23:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FC228@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 533019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:43 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LNNhx1000909 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.108.214]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050421232342.TNSU2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:23:42 -0400 Message-ID: <426835FB.6090800@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:23:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: An Article Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Another googling contest: Who can find an article online related to this topic: 9:30 Forum: Why is 1 in 9 of the casualties in Iraq a suicide? from: http://uujackson.org/index.html The reason I ask is that the President of the Board of the UU Church called me a little while ago and asked if I could be the "forum facilitator" since she has to be in Birmingham Sunday. She brought me the keys to the church a little while ago since I'll need to unlock the door and maybe make the coffee, though I think I'll just wait and let the first coffee-drinker who shows up do that. She said that she chose the topic because of an article she had read but she can't find it now -- can't remember where she read it. It doesn't really matter. All I need to do is introduce the topic and let people start talking, and if it morphs into a different topic, that's ok. But I'd like reading the article if I can find it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 18:47:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LNlCWm030160 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:47:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:47:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FC2B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:47:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 534484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:47:11 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LNlBiq003831 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:47:11 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j3LNlA6J018697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:47:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:47:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: From a webmaster's inbox In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050421134231a1e0fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <8ddfc8a7050421134231a1e0fc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi, I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago... and I want to tell you that I'd really love to trade links with you. I think your site has some really good stuff related to my site's topic of farm equipment and would be a great resource for my visitors as it deals with some great aspects of farm equipment that I'd like to give my visitors more information about. In fact, I went ahead and added your site to my Farm Equipment HQ Resource Directory at... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hi, I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago... and I want to tell you that I'd really love to trade links with you. I think your site has some really good stuff related to my site's topic of marble and would be a great resource for my visitors as it deals with some great aspects of marble that I'd like to give my visitors more information about. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 18:57:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3LNvDWm031285 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:57:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:57:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FC22E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:57:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 535167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:57:12 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3LNvC03004978 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:57:12 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050421235712011009d9ile>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:57:12 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: From a webmaster's inbox Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:57:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hi, > > I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago... You should feel honored, being added to three such useful sites! Perhaps you could send a small token of your esteem? --Adam :D From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 19:48:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M0lpWm004548 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:47:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:47:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FC2EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:47:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 537705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:47:51 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M0lpIN010089 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:47:51 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so713562wri for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.30.65 with SMTP id d65mr181605wrd; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:47:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lBBbNjd97p/fbRlpPp5w72ngJo5jimcRwF5xiBLZ9DRyBRigb8asymjxVBenYpR2R5lxOLZ7zqLXTa+l/+AbR5i64H2dRXTux+GMx94B44i8dJYs3BDAEbwuU0LUyeB3Ogz/p8CZkkAbvaDYaLP9nnMZQNhx1+dmhHTeQDl+qFo= Message-ID: <83db447a05042117474fe63613@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:47:50 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From a webmaster's inbox In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050421134231a1e0fc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3M0lpWm004548 On 4/21/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > Hi, > > I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago...ad infinitum, ad > nauseum... I think that had I any other inclinations, this would put me off ever being a webmaster. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 19:48:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M0m8Wm004576 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:48:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:48:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FC2F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:48:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 537726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:48:08 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M0m8u1010113 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:48:08 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050422004803011009dc91e>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 00:48:03 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: Alyce would be happy Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:48:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The big cement plant they were considering for her area has had an important permit denied, and that might end the project for good. Let's hope! http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/20/nyregion/20cement.html (There was a sidebar about it in today's Springfield paper saying that this source of pollution may not come to pass.) --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:27:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1RfWm011087 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FC358@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:12:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:12:11 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M1CBkT013450 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:12:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so808985wra for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.47.20 with SMTP id u20mr176921wru; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:12:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BuD4X0EuhZ8xV3N6+6ZqWpEGfDB/8JeKp6oC/NX/CTj7O/R4EkLF58szEuvcO+0gfuAFVt8WE9OM2o4JZBfEYFqDyoE1J+naTquMnu9JyWq2DKs7F72EoWi9acOW+EwlzdqJaFkZ8a9mtg2STzcZD7OzpLXwzaCU5+uvQd3pq/A= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:12:11 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas In-Reply-To: <42682438.5080307@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> <42679A51.8040002@maynor.net> <79688189.20050421125516@gailndan.com> <4267FA64.5030809@maynor.net> <199754542.20050421152818@gailndan.com> <42682438.5080307@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3M1RfWm011087 > > And many, many, > many people move where they need to move because of their jobs. > -- Natalie But you once said that you didn't understand why people live in a state where they are unhappy because it is a free country and people can live wherever they want. Now you acknowledge that people aren't quite so free after all. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:27:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1RfWm011086 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FC409@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:08:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:08:01 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M181W9012963 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:08:01 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F202CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:08:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200504220108.j3M181W9012963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:08:00 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: An Article To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:23:39 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Another googling contest: Who can find an article online related to >this topic: > >9:30 Forum: Why is 1 in 9 of the casualties in Iraq a suicide? >from: http://uujackson.org/index.html > >The reason I ask is that the President of the Board of the UU Church >called me a little while ago and asked if I could be the "forum >facilitator" since she has to be in Birmingham Sunday. She brought me >the keys to the church a little while ago since I'll need to unlock the >door and maybe make the coffee, though I think I'll just wait and let >the first coffee-drinker who shows up do that. She said that she chose >the topic because of an article she had read but she can't find it now >-- can't remember where she read it. It might have been this - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/29/eveningnews/main596755.shtml or this - http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52735-2004Feb18 clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:27:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1RfWm011085 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FC405@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:07:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:07:40 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M17ewW012880 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:07:40 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-162-249.gwi.net [216.195.162.249]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3M17X7E002281; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:07:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:07:26 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: the season approacheth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wasn't really in the mood to plan a meal for tonight, so we went to Mache. We walked down and when we got there a few minutes early for our 6:30 table, we were the only ones. So, we sat at the bar, I had a martini, and we chatted with Rachel (the now-owner) and Rich (the chef), catching up on and trading the latest gossip and finding out what Rich was especially proud of in tonight's menu. Bonnie grazed on three starters, including the great garlic/asiago sausage. I started with the sauteed calamari (in a wondrous sweet curry) and then the pot au feu---the delightful, aromatic, French-style pot roast. As we began working our way through the menu, people started arriving---some of whom definitely were tourists---and pretty soon, Mache was pretty much slammed---especially given that Rachel was on her own working the front and Rich was by himself in the kitchen. We ended up with coffee (and a magnificent slice of chocolate tart, courtesy of Rachel and Rich). The walk home, on a crisp evening, under a clear, moonlit sky, was a good way to end the dinner. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:28:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1RfWn011087 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:28:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FC43B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:18:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:18:03 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M1I31c014181 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:18:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.172]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050422011803.EHHK1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:18:03 -0400 Message-ID: <426850C8.70609@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:18:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From a webmaster's inbox References: <8ddfc8a7050421134231a1e0fc@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05042117474fe63613@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05042117474fe63613@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >I think that had I any other inclinations, this would put me off ever being >a webmaster. > > Larry no doubt gets far more of those than I've ever gotten since his website is so prominent, but I've gotten quite a few through the years. They just go into the pot with all the other spam I get. Just a few more drops in the gigantic spam bucket. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:28:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1RfWn011086 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:28:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FC27D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:18:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:18:52 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M1Iq8F014253 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:18:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.172]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050422011852.EHSC1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:18:52 -0400 Message-ID: <426850F9.1000208@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:18:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce would be happy References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >The big cement plant they were considering for her area has had an important >permit denied, and that might end the project for good. Let's hope! > > YaY! I hope that Alyce's spirit knows. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:28:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1RuWm011120 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:28:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FC385@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:20:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:20:26 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M1KQ4h014500 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:20:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.172]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050422012025.EINV1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:20:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42685156.1060401@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:20:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the season approacheth References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > I wasn't really in the mood to plan a meal for tonight, so we went to > Mache. We walked down and when we got there a few minutes early for our > 6:30 table, we were the only ones. So, we sat at the bar, I had a > martini, > and we chatted with Rachel (the now-owner) and Rich (the chef), > catching up > on and trading the latest gossip and finding out what Rich was especially > proud of in tonight's menu. Do they know about BB's dancing naked on the table summer before last? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:28:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1RuWm011121 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:28:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FC28D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:22:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:22:29 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M1MTaF014874 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:22:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.172]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050422012229.EJOX1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:22:29 -0400 Message-ID: <426851D2.6040700@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:22:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: An Article References: <200504220108.j3M181W9012963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504220108.j3M181W9012963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >It might have been this - >http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/29/eveningnews/main596755.shtml >or this - >http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52735-2004Feb18 > > Thanks. I don't think these are likely to be what she read because they're much older. She was talking about something in the past few months. But they may provide interesting forum fodder anyway -- not that I'm likely to need much fodder -- UUs are talkers, regardless of the topic. All I have to do is start the show. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:28:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1RfWn011085 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:27:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:28:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FC2A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:26:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 540220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:26:11 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M1QB40015350 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:26:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.172]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050422012611.ELKL1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:26:11 -0400 Message-ID: <426852B0.8040806@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:26:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sometimes I hate living in Texas References: <8ddfc8a705042020167d3a3dff@mail.gmail.com> <42679A51.8040002@maynor.net> <79688189.20050421125516@gailndan.com> <4267FA64.5030809@maynor.net> <199754542.20050421152818@gailndan.com> <42682438.5080307@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>And many, many, >>many people move where they need to move because of their jobs. >>-- Natalie >> >> > > But you once said that you didn't understand why people live in a state >where they are unhappy because it is a free country and people can live >wherever they want. Now you acknowledge that people aren't quite so free >after all. > > Not at all. I don't understand why somebody would live in a state where they are unhappy. Of course they can move. People move where they need to move because of their jobs, but if they are not happy there, then they can move elsewhere. That is a whole nother thing from saying that people never leave Mississippi, which is what Dan was alleging I had said. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:41:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1esWm013262 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:40:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:41:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FC4A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:40:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 540529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:40:54 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3M1UsWv015844 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:30:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 92437 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2005 01:30:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:30:53 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the perfect gift Message-ID: <20050422013053.GA90068@words-l.org> References: <83db447a05042114249235bf2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83db447a05042114249235bf2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 05:24:03PM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 4/21/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > What do you get the new Pope who has everything? > > Does that mean that there already is a panzer in his garage? Panzer ... LOL.:) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:54:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1slWm015143 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:54:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:54:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FC2F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:44:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 540641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:44:47 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3M1YkdV016203 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:34:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 94656 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2005 01:34:46 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:34:46 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the season approacheth Message-ID: <20050422013446.GB90068@words-l.org> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 09:07:26PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > I wasn't really in the mood to plan a meal for tonight, so we went to > Mache. We walked down and when we got there a few minutes early for our > 6:30 table, we were the only ones. So, we sat at the bar, I had a martini, > and we chatted with Rachel (the now-owner) and Rich (the chef), catching up > on and trading the latest gossip and finding out what Rich was especially > proud of in tonight's menu. > > Bonnie grazed on three starters, including the great garlic/asiago > sausage. I started with the sauteed calamari (in a wondrous sweet curry) > and then the pot au feu---the delightful, aromatic, French-style pot > roast. As we began working our way through the menu, people started > arriving---some of whom definitely were tourists---and pretty soon, Mache > was pretty much slammed---especially given that Rachel was on her own > working the front and Rich was by himself in the kitchen. We ended up with > coffee (and a magnificent slice of chocolate tart, courtesy of Rachel and > Rich). > > The walk home, on a crisp evening, under a clear, moonlit sky, was a good > way to end the dinner. Sounds like something out of Gibran. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 20:58:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M1wcWm015688 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:58:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:58:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FC326@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:58:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 544747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:58:38 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M1wcR2023276 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:58:38 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:58:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:58:28 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Alyce would be happy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Knows? She prolly arranged it BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 04/21/05 9:18 PM >>> Adam Hartfield wrote: >The big cement plant they were considering for her area has had an important >permit denied, and that might end the project for good. Let's hope! > > YaY! I hope that Alyce's spirit knows. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 21:41:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M2f9Wm020481 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:41:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:41:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FC5D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:41:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 547160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:41:08 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M2f8h2028089 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:41:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.145.55]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050422024108.YLYS2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:41:08 -0400 Message-ID: <42686441.5090806@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:41:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Survivor (nothing given away here) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I enjoyed tonight's Survivor. And I'm finally beginning to get the people straight -- as in all those people on the tribe we didn't see much of earlier. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 21 22:59:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3M3xIWm029396 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:59:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:59:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FC8F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:59:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 554938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:59:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3M3xIJl004431 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:59:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1044633nzp for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.20 with SMTP id t20mr252826nzt; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:59:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DJDSzNn8e9OpQzIOFtLnxBoahXpFNYmDBqI8waE9DIWF2Zx6QHTA0VctDIZZd4CUDmq59/F/uYdCQcVl+yNenXYPxv8J21o3nUJeDxsqU8XLVLnOZHuRqU7hbGmSOYFngGuA1LQJrOov6480jQ2NX/M8gfrZef4Vcqlk5E7zm5w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042120594c310644@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:59:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the season approacheth In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3M3xIWm029396 On 4/21/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > We ended up with > coffee (and a magnificent slice of chocolate tart, courtesy of Rachel and > Rich). What is chocolate tart? Is it like chocolate pie? The walk home, on a crisp evening, under a clear, moonlit sky, was a good > way to end the dinner. Sounds delightful. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 06:59:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MBwoWm001226 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:58:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:59:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F21373@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 7:58:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 564381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:58:49 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MBwnJF011006 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:58:49 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-70.gwi.net [216.195.165.70]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3MBwh0r097722; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:58:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050422075514.01bd9a70@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:57:00 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: the season approacheth In-Reply-To: <42685156.1060401@maynor.net> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> <42685156.1060401@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:20 PM 4/21/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Do they know about BB's dancing naked on the table summer before last? No. They are the new owner and chef; we see no need to burden them with the wretched excesses of the past. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 06:59:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MBwnWm001224 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:58:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:59:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F21372@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 7:58:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 564376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:58:49 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MBwmKP010999 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:58:48 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-70.gwi.net [216.195.165.70]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3MBwh0q097722; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:58:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050422075328.01beab28@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:54:45 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: the season approacheth In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042120594c310644@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705042120594c310644@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:59 PM 4/21/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 4/21/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > > > We ended up with > > coffee (and a magnificent slice of chocolate tart, courtesy of Rachel and > > Rich). > > >What is chocolate tart? Is it like chocolate pie? Very dense chocolate (with little else in it), on a thin, flaky crust with a dollop of real whipped cream atop. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 07:11:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MCBgWm002974 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:11:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:11:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F21383@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 8:01:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 564532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:01:41 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MC1fe1011422 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:01:41 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so978829wra for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.132.1 with SMTP id f1mr396548wrd; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:01:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oBfMXXmql+0HYMzmGrB8d8P3MOZ87hYJXg1mwzGDkrohDTTRox+AJFscFkSRSdGtW7fZ+6YUCeqhPglshqSZpj4NSb0ln0B+uvxFKeXdBOTi9J2APwrjJ8qJuJAtxn5OVyyj1Y2v1F3sZV3pkqH5mPasg1y/1vJaZlFjKssSEBU= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:01:41 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the season approacheth In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042120594c310644@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705042120594c310644@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3MCBgWm002974 > > What is chocolate tart? Is it like chocolate pie? --Karen It was a wedge like a pie. But I would say it was firmer or denser than most chocolate pies I've had. Rachel has been giving us our desserts free, if we order one or not. That's rather nice. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 07:53:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MCrGWm008394 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:53:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FD399@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 8:53:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 574158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:53:15 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MCrExf022576 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:53:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17215543 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:59:14 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:51:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:51:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <631977545.20050422065115@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: From a webmaster's inbox In-Reply-To: <83db447a05042117474fe63613@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050421134231a1e0fc@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05042117474fe63613@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: **: 2.900000 Viagra not hidden=1.0,Mentions viagra=1.9 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=71344, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/21/2005, 6:47 PM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> I took a look at your site a couple of hours ago...ad infinitum, ad >> nauseum... CV> I think that had I any other inclinations, this would put me off ever being CV> a webmaster. No worse, and much less frequent, than any of the other spam I get. My websites all produce such crap too....so it just goes in the shitcan along with the viagra ads and penis enhancement stuff. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 08:04:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MD3wWm010343 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:04:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:04:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F21864@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 8:53:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 574409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:53:53 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MCrrWW022770 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:53:53 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:53:53 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:53:16 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: it's just so M-I-T Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU in the news today: ---------------------------------------------------------- BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- Three MIT graduate students set out to show what kind of gobbledygook can pass muster at an academic conference these days, writing a computer program that generates fake, nonsensical papers. And sure enough, a Florida conference took the bait. The program, developed by students Jeremy Stribling, Max Krohn and Dan Aguayo, generated a paper with the dumbfounding title: "Rooter: A Methodology for the Typical Unification of Access Points and Redundancy." Its introduction begins: "Many scholars would agree that, had it not been for active networks, the simulation of Lamport clocks might never have occurred." -------------------------------------------------------------- Generate your own at their site: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 08:20:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MDJsWm012000 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:19:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:20:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FD5B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 9:19:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 579557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:19:54 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MDJsIv028443 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:19:54 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F21B29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 9:19:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200504221319.j3MDJsIv028443@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:19:54 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: it's just so M-I-T To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Carolyn Ostrander Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:53:16 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >in the news today: >---------------------------------------------------------- >BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- Three MIT graduate students set out to >show what kind of gobbledygook can pass muster at an academic conference >these days, writing a computer program that generates fake, nonsensical >papers. And sure enough, a Florida conference took the bait. > >The program, developed by students Jeremy Stribling, Max Krohn and Dan >Aguayo, generated a paper with the dumbfounding title: "Rooter: A >Methodology for the Typical Unification of Access Points and >Redundancy." Its introduction begins: "Many scholars would agree that, >had it not been for active networks, the simulation of Lamport clocks >might never have occurred." >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Generate your own at their site: > >http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ > > >BrP There's been a lot of talk about this kind of thing lately on composition/writing program blogs. The Chair's talk at the CCCC conference in March included his sample random-generated paper, and its automatic grading report - it passed with flying colors. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 08:28:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MDRxWm012989 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:28:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:28:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F21BD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 9:27:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 581336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:27:57 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MDRvp8030259 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:27:57 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17094818 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:41:46 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:28:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:27:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1011185124.20050422072756@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: it's just so M-I-T In-Reply-To: <83db447a050422062045823da4@mail.gmail.com> References: <83db447a050422062045823da4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=59181, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/22/2005, 7:20 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: CV> I think that this is the same thing that Torkel posted about earlier. CV> Vanity conferences are a relatively new thing, I guess. I think they are. I've been getting an invitation a month or so, on my university email, inviting me to participate in one conference or another on topics that are more or less related to my job. Some of them are really computer engineering, heavy duty programming, or other things that aren't what I do, or could possibly (at least without the software) write a paper on. And they're always in interesting European resorts. But of course even as a presenter I still would have to pay full registration of a grand or two, plus travel, lodging in a fancy hotel/resort, etc. I suppose a few people can pull off that kind of crap with their employer and get them to pay for it. Or at least go and have a significant tax write off as an employee business expense. Wouldn't take many of those to get you over the two percent floor on the tax forms. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 08:31:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MDUlWm013468 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:30:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:31:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FD664@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 9:26:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 581034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:26:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MDPxBr029906 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:26:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1204615nzp for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr283126nzt; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:25:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Fh9gMiLevc9tIufjQc5VpwfDJDZFtC4TXEddV7nkOJEGIB5kgCqfJrdz0Zed4znBBukAdNFQpw0fyaUHCR/1XPX1pxStYWWFUEB+5/6Uiur2v/atwNZLIashBplsO+Ca4ODuYlvKgk4kDNAeAuzwbZNTx2xs+v0ZK/r9UePXYtU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504220625264e718@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:25:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the season approacheth In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050422075328.01beab28@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050421205306.01c15528@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705042120594c310644@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.0.20050422075328.01beab28@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3MDUlWm013468 On 4/22/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > >What is chocolate tart? Is it like chocolate pie? > > Very dense chocolate (with little else in it), on a thin, flaky crust with > a dollop of real whipped cream atop. > This sounds like something worth experimenting with... I don't really like chocolate pies because they aren't intense enough. But this sounds wonderful. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 08:31:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MDUlWm013469 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:30:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:31:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FD73A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 9:27:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 581210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:27:15 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MDREtv030121 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:27:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17218125 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:33:14 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:01:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:01:23 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <717303679.20050422070123@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: An Article In-Reply-To: <200504220108.j3M181W9012963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504220108.j3M181W9012963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=71363, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/21/2005, 7:08 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: CO> It might have been this - CO> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/29/eveningnews/main596755.shtml CO> or this - CO> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52735-2004Feb18 Quote from second article... "At the cemetery, one of two African American burial places in Angelina County, she circled the perimeter of the grave, stopping to straighten a fallen section of the white wooden fence." Interesting if that is still true....one of two places blacks can be buried in the county. Is this tradition or custom, or a lingering prejudice, or what? As to the stats...the ones quoted in the article sure don't add up to one in nine of the deaths....but no argument that it happens, just as it has in all other wars...and in peacetime as well. Interesting that in the article they didn't distinguish between "friendly fire" deaths that are in battle, where such things can happen (and they happen to police officers too), and those that are due to what in Nam was called "fragging", typically to officers by disgruntled enlisted men. As many may have noticed, the first case of that, at least that has been prosecuted, led to a conviction yesterday (or day before). Has been big news here since the Major who was killed (he wasn't the only one) was local, from Boise. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 08:31:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MDUlWm013467 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:30:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:31:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FD4CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 9:20:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 579785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:20:46 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MDKkFL028708 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:20:46 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so896651wri for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.32.44 with SMTP id f44mr472154wrf; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:20:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IVZxzbXbkQJdnxoVNbCLXkLb2G8dMliV7obKpWQuEkq+W9/7evLvdUV+q/8RB5ZW0KRPuDF0kwbGvXdr0TiChblaesJ+Ym3Ol5qoHxPDMEvO/Kfmn3ThHM4/ZRhwBb3+77e/AiwJEKyZWx/L3HJD0KF5B+gW2534rVh+5qS98jg= Message-ID: <83db447a050422062045823da4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:20:45 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: it's just so M-I-T In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3MDUlWm013467 On 4/22/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > in the news today: > ---------------------------------------------------------- > BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- Three MIT graduate students set out to > show what kind of gobbledygook can pass muster at an academic conference > these days, writing a computer program that generates fake, nonsensical > papers. And sure enough, a Florida conference took the bait. I think that this is the same thing that Torkel posted about earlier. Vanity conferences are a relatively new thing, I guess. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 08:33:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MDXjWm013875 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:33:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:33:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F21CC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 9:33:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 582575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:33:44 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MDXivR031408 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:33:44 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:33:44 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:33:30 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Rogers Cadenhead Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU is the guy who registered domain names based on an "available pope names" list. He hit the jackpot with benedictxvi.com and I think it is interesting to see what he is doing with it. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 08:37:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MDbDWm014320 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:37:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:37:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FD764@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 9:37:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 583448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:37:12 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MDbCiw032350 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:37:12 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:37:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:36:55 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: the season approacheth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/22/2005 9:25:59 AM >>> On 4/22/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> >> >What is chocolate tart? Is it like chocolate pie? >> >> Very dense chocolate (with little else in it), on a thin, flaky crust with >> a dollop of real whipped cream atop. >> >This sounds like something worth experimenting with... I don't really like >chocolate pies because they aren't intense enough. But this sounds >wonderful. -- This is one place that we differ as ETs This concoction sounds like it would make me ill. The few chocolate things I like are the ones that are very lightly chocolate. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 08:39:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MDdHWm014485 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:39:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:39:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F21D44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 9:39:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 583700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:39:15 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MDdEAh032627 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:39:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17219225 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:45:14 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 06:05:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:05:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <18910376385.20050422070530@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: An Article In-Reply-To: <426851D2.6040700@maynor.net> References: <200504220108.j3M181W9012963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426851D2.6040700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=71370, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/21/2005, 7:22 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But they may provide interesting forum fodder anyway -- not NM> that I'm likely to need much fodder -- UUs are talkers, regardless of NM> the topic. That's for sure, present company not excepted. One group we play bridge with (usually three tables) is almost all UUs, except us. In fact, used to play at the church social hall area, but they canned that...so now play at each other's houses. It is called "rowdy bridge" because it is. Group where it is ok to go to another table and show your cards and ask how the hell to bid it, etc. And lots of loud talking going on the whole time. Does help your game by learning from others, and forcing you to concentrate on your cards over the three tables of loud, usually political, discussions. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 09:12:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MECmWm018206 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:12:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:12:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FDE49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:12:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:12:48 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MEClnW008466 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:12:47 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-70.gwi.net [216.195.165.70]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3MECh0o023797; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:12:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050422095019.01c0f860@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:57:06 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: it's just so M-I-T In-Reply-To: <1011185124.20050422072756@gailndan.com> References: <83db447a050422062045823da4@mail.gmail.com> <1011185124.20050422072756@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:27 AM 4/22/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >4/22/2005, 7:20 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > >CV> I think that this is the same thing that Torkel posted about earlier. >CV> Vanity conferences are a relatively new thing, I guess. > >I think they are. I've been getting an invitation a month or so, on >my university email, inviting me to participate in one conference or >another on topics that are more or less related to my job. Some of >them are really computer engineering, heavy duty programming, or other >things that aren't what I do, or could possibly (at least without the >software) write a paper on. And they're always in interesting >European resorts. But of course even as a presenter I still would >have to pay full registration of a grand or two, plus travel, lodging >in a fancy hotel/resort, etc. That is one of the significant differences nowadays. A lot of conferences apparently are developed to be money-makers. Even when I was still active, it was possible to go to a conference nearly every month on something related to my field---and as my field splintered into various subdisciplines, the number of conferences/symposia increased accordingly. Even then, the registration fees were usually manageable, the venues usually offered a variety of lodging alternatives, and if I was invited to present a paper (as opposed to volunteering one), the registration fee often was waived. Simpler times. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 09:25:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MEPJWm019875 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:25:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:25:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F223F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:25:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:25:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MEPJeg010611 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:25:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1402171nzf for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.12.2 with SMTP id 2mr296771nzl; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:25:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dE+au0kMbH6qfXnr7y/QIJqlZ6gKo+Sr5zySU4R854nQK2vgcCHy5SMUT/yR4ZmKpeazYI8cj5nimo3P7YrAQkMzYmxwYaWYp/RQrE7jjREXYKA8Jw05Rdm/rfvv2onCwpu9ri15jYtMqVYgPQsdvCG5XnMW5zcX0M/Ksdvjcv0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:25:18 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the perfect gift In-Reply-To: <9910121936.20050421155158@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <9910121936.20050421155158@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3MEPJeg010612 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > the Archie McPhee of religious stuff. Is this for real? 'Cause Jodi is the matron of honor for about the most conservative Christian we've ever met. (We suspect she's getting married because she's horny.) I think she'd love the WWJD candy hearts at her bridal shower. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 09:28:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MESFWm020231 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:28:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:28:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FDCD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:18:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:18:14 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MEIEe7009363 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:18:14 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:18:14 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:17:39 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Spain ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU from AP: Spain Parliament Passes Gay Marriage Bill http://tinyurl.com/alltf BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 09:28:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MESUWm020295 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:28:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:28:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FDEC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:28:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:28:29 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MEST26011136 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:28:29 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so717869rne for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.79 with SMTP id a79mr2311330rnb; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.51 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:28:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BCZXedJCuEXEW1Mz1CvFXo42riGhHnccPl4wDxjBLV9xUuDYnSNinh5rz9K5kGDoXzPsBbAWOJoYthPha0l/3KmW+kbNp6Mq6PX/wikGQATixCLz5mc7c+kT9fxgzbNAlc5wKrh2vnLnNei3v8RKzB5Y4pHQqr4zTuQytSlhF8I= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:28:29 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: it's just so M-I-T In-Reply-To: <83db447a050422062045823da4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <83db447a050422062045823da4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3MEST26011137 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 4/22/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 4/22/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > in the news today: > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- Three MIT graduate students set out to > > show what kind of gobbledygook can pass muster at an academic conference > > these days, writing a computer program that generates fake, nonsensical > > papers. And sure enough, a Florida conference took the bait. > > I think that this is the same thing that Torkel posted about earlier. > Vanity conferences are a relatively new thing, I guess. Well... Tushar posted a reference on WORDS-L to the VIDEA conference on Apr 11 1995. This may be one of the earliest such money making conferences, or at least one of the earliest to be exposed. It still has a refence page at http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~wp/videa.html Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 09:38:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MEc5Wm021779 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:38:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:38:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FDF18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:38:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 598772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:38:05 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MEc5dL013227 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:38:05 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:38:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:37:52 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Spain ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How does it already work ? Belgium and the Netherlands already have marriage equality and they are part of the EU. BrP >>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 4/22/2005 10:32:46 AM >>> > Spain Parliament Passes Gay Marriage Bill Hmm. Which rights of a married gay couple from Spain would be recognized by the governments of France or Italy during their honeymoon? I'm curious to learn about how this works in the EU. Ben -- "I would say that a buzzsaw blade between a guy's legs on the album cover is a good indication that it is not for little Johnny." -- Frank Zappa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 09:43:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MEgvWm022318 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:43:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:43:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F22452@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:32:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 598023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:32:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MEWkjL012117 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:32:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1405321nzf for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.9.18 with SMTP id 18mr295700nzi; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:32:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gerw9WRxgX4guleopXYZeEnEkixo5+wCg/u2MnGLmbPcngxsb08FdG9yww8YMKQZMrzVzjRGdXXjzbJbK+bK7IcYgU3I6cThVRwkmJDUXZqJhI/pDKyu2tVQ6GUiJpXHcOj2j/18QHml1qm538EijNzB97v333dJmXMZLtu3r5U= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:32:46 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spain ! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3MEWljL012121 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Spain Parliament Passes Gay Marriage Bill Hmm. Which rights of a married gay couple from Spain would be recognized by the governments of France or Italy during their honeymoon? I'm curious to learn about how this works in the EU. Ben -- "I would say that a buzzsaw blade between a guy's legs on the album cover is a good indication that it is not for little Johnny." -- Frank Zappa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 09:43:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MEgvWm022320 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:43:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:43:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F224A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:37:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 598714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:37:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MEbUsW013109 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:37:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1407444nzf for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.5 with SMTP id o5mr297553nza; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:37:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Aez5FeLhYVooy76TLJKn2WVI+9dubAB68hTr+F/dmriZxpKemRuAHlCNrUWVa6HfBsndb8AgI9KdnlL+ptfXVpvK+mPWTJL7F6xXE4nAjrAMJQg58A4Ti6HK+r4gOXQpmPxJlLL9GlTIsJpugWnyrKapxGYLLsEZRo2HHUwVBUM= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:37:30 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Lauantaimakkara in Boston Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3MEbVsW013111 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Any Boston wordslurs happen to know where to buy lauantaimakkara, or any Finnish food stores that might be worth calling? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 09:43:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MEhSWm022383 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:43:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:43:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FDE7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:43:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 599285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:43:28 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MEhSK3014265 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:43:28 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 94189261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:43:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42690D8F.1050909@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:43:27 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lauantaimakkara in Boston References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >Any Boston wordslurs happen to know where to buy lauantaimakkara, or >any Finnish food stores that might be worth calling? > >Ben > > I don't pretend to be an authority on anything Boston. In fact I avoid the city as much as is humanly possible, but I have never heard of any Finnish food stores or restaurants. A quick survey of the people here in the office today produces the same result. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 10:04:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MF4bWm026002 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:04:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:04:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FDF7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:54:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 600287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:54:36 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MEsaaq016537 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:54:36 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:54:36 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:54:09 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: I like this quote ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "To light a candle from another that is already burning does not diminish the light of that first candle, but rather serves to brighten the room. It is fundamental to our society that we offer basic rights to all. It is fundamental that we strive to extend our interpretation of equality as far as possible ..." Hon. John McCallum ,Canadian Minister of National Revenue in the House of Commons debate on BillC-38 (The Civil Marriage act) March 21, 2005 ------------------------------------------ BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 10:04:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MF4bWm026003 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:04:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:04:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FDFAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:00:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 601033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:00:59 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MF0wAb017952 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:00:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B5397EE0 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:00:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10701-06 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:00:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B80997F23 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:00:56 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <426911A8.20100@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:00:56 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lauantaimakkara in Boston References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.34 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >Any Boston wordslurs happen to know where to buy lauantaimakkara, or >any Finnish food stores that might be worth calling? > Saturday Sausage?! I wonder how y'all say it :) Probably not worse than most of our people here say, "croissant". Kristin > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 10:04:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MF4bWn026002 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:04:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:04:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FDEFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:03:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 601373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:03:31 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MF3Vog018620 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:03:31 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 96682551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:03:30 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050422080155.02815910@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:03:48 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I do, too. Off to Big Sur. Please do try to be a bit more interesting. B At 07:54 AM 4/22/2005, you wrote: >"To light a candle from another that is already burning does not >diminish the light of that first candle, but rather serves to brighten >the room. It is fundamental to our society that we offer basic rights to >all. It is fundamental that we strive to extend our interpretation of >equality as far as possible ..." > >Hon. John McCallum ,Canadian Minister of National Revenue in the House >of Commons debate on BillC-38 (The Civil Marriage act) March 21, 2005 >------------------------------------------ > >BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 10:40:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MFeLWm030574 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:40:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:40:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FE0B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:35:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 605108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:35:29 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MFZT6f026210; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:35:29 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 96692023; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:35:27 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050422083459.0279dba0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:35:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: the season approacheth In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504220830727ffcdd@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70504220830727ffcdd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:30 AM 4/22/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 4/22/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > This is one place that we differ as ETs This concoction sounds like it > > would make me ill. The few chocolate things I like are the ones that > > are very lightly chocolate. > > > >It's the differences that are the spice in our friendship. You need to take a walk under a clear, moonlit sky and discuss these differences. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 10:40:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MFeLWm030572 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:40:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:40:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FE09D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:30:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 604658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:30:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MFUJHI024996 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:30:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so325154nzo for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.20 with SMTP id o20mr297539nzo; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:30:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BkE9wZnrhY1ImatRfx4RToH6mQW5UAeLWbf6Cx0UE1eRKNKALSQnkNA1u/O559DqFivy/LibCY/qkG4X4iaScmjuhb2orkmNa8grZiSj4P0NiAf8d4gY/3dfKlv7XTqA2RnVTpKYm8hekfp2bRIRZ1lRGDGvKlDj6ZXWned87eI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504220830727ffcdd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:30:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the season approacheth In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3MFeLWm030572 On 4/22/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > This is one place that we differ as ETs This concoction sounds like it > would make me ill. The few chocolate things I like are the ones that > are very lightly chocolate. > It's the differences that are the spice in our friendship. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:12:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGBkWm002420 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:11:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:12:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2287F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:51:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 607043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:51:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MFpi6C031253 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:51:44 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1443428nzf for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.12.2 with SMTP id 2mr305660nzl; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:51:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r+lLQR4d+xnPAgyfVGkAQWCkaiGa+/3xuvNhO9P/4KhB6BTZY9LiuonKTFMs7T+nPsnbUDxpAojb4No02t30srV6degWByL9+nwJaNE3bn28Ubc36w/JtyL6F7yHEDlcQst8J7hx56rLGCSa3ZoKGbp28bjJBRcf6yWoUhu8rRA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:51:44 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lauantaimakkara in Boston In-Reply-To: <42690D8F.1050909@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42690D8F.1050909@bc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3MFpi6C031254 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't pretend to be an authority on anything Boston. In fact I avoid > the city as much as is humanly possible, but I have never heard of any > Finnish food stores or restaurants. A quick survey of the people here > in the office today produces the same result. Yeah, I'm getting the feeling that he'll have to drive to Fitchburg at least. I've gotten to the point where, on my next round of calls, I'll be asking the Finnish consulate in NYC (to whom I was referred by the Honorary Consul General in Boston), and perhaps calling the butchers on Blackstone St, and (on Saturday, when the volunteers are in) the Scandinavian Library and Information Center. I'm slowly losing hope, but perhaps he'll be happy that I've found a place to buy korv (Swedish potato sausage). I don't know if that's similar. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:12:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGBkWm002421 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:11:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:12:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F2288C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:58:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 606815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:58:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3MFm62K030427 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:48:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 96633 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2005 15:48:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:48:04 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: it's just so M-I-T Message-ID: <20050422154804.GA94392@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Torkel posted this on the "let's all post URLs" day, my brother. I would like this event to lead to *something*. Unless there are self-righteous people foaming at the mouth and arguing that this invalidates all modern mathematics, and computers especially are a sham. Resignations and imprisonments should be demanded. On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 08:53:16AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > in the news today: > ---------------------------------------------------------- > BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- Three MIT graduate students set out to > show what kind of gobbledygook can pass muster at an academic conference > these days, writing a computer program that generates fake, nonsensical > papers. And sure enough, a Florida conference took the bait. > > The program, developed by students Jeremy Stribling, Max Krohn and Dan > Aguayo, generated a paper with the dumbfounding title: "Rooter: A > Methodology for the Typical Unification of Access Points and > Redundancy." Its introduction begins: "Many scholars would agree that, > had it not been for active networks, the simulation of Lamport clocks > might never have occurred." > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Generate your own at their site: > > http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ > > > BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:13:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGCsWm002563 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:12:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:13:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FE05E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:52:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 607252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:52:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MFqrb5031736 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:52:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1443982nzf for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.61.11 with SMTP id j11mr304931nza; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:52:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CRSnz9NBTy5ddxUHrqekoL8u0MZGvfQWNK9GTOxIDOMc5Tqgk21hdrvKaSFcK1BMrM0dx5ZN6OWei84Tl9e8r7CBhR4wIUkm1HNuqm0FJ1pt3pxm64JjpvmPPIgtPK18A/ni1pb007jKIBEemQ5Mxlwo4PU/vRLu4TzRTzM1sPI= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:52:53 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3MFqrb5031742 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > "To light a candle from another that is already burning does not > diminish the light of that first candle, but rather serves to brighten > the room." Tell it to the RIAA and their silly ideas about "theft". Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:13:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGCsWm002566 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:12:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:13:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FDF94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:00:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 606970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:00:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3MFojlq031032 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:50:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 97874 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2005 15:50:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:50:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rogers Cadenhead Message-ID: <20050422155044.GB94392@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 09:33:30AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > is the guy who registered domain names based on an "available pope > names" list. He hit the jackpot with benedictxvi.com and I think > it is interesting to see what he is doing with it. I must ask, is this actual, real interest, or a simulated interest leading to an assignment of writing a column somewhere? Because this is not interesting at all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:13:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGCsWm002569 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:12:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:13:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FE173@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:06:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 607573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:06:12 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3MFuBTZ032537 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:56:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 533 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2005 15:56:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:56:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: it's just so M-I-T Message-ID: <20050422155610.GC94392@words-l.org> References: <83db447a050422062045823da4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 10:28:29AM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 4/22/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > On 4/22/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > > > in the news today: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- Three MIT graduate students set out to > > > show what kind of gobbledygook can pass muster at an academic conference > > > these days, writing a computer program that generates fake, nonsensical > > > papers. And sure enough, a Florida conference took the bait. > > > > I think that this is the same thing that Torkel posted about earlier. > > Vanity conferences are a relatively new thing, I guess. > > Well... Tushar posted a reference on WORDS-L to the VIDEA conference > on Apr 11 1995. This may be one of the earliest such money making > conferences, or at least one of the earliest to be exposed. It still > has a refence page at http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~wp/videa.html I posted this? I'll be damned. Anyway, it's nice to see that this year's incident is an example of a "few bad apples", while the Sokal hoax (hope I got the name right) was proof that multiple academic disciplines were complete scams. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:13:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGCsWn002563 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:13:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:13:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FE0BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:09:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 607895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:09:06 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3MFx5nX000758 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:59:05 -0400 Received: (qmail 2489 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2005 15:59:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:59:05 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! Message-ID: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 11:52:53AM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > "To light a candle from another that is already burning does not > > diminish the light of that first candle, but rather serves to brighten > > the room." > > Tell it to the RIAA and their silly ideas about "theft". Why go to the RIAA? We have Dan and Natalie right there to rave on about their "property". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:44:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGhsWm006427 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:43:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:44:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FE068@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:38:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:38:07 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MGc6n6008783 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:38:07 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:38:06 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:37:30 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Rogers Cadenhead Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Since you "must ask" I'll tell you. It is actual, real interest. Cadenhead's demands of the Vatican in order to turn over the domain name to them include - "One of those hats" "Complete absolution, no questions asked, for the third week of March 1987" and " World peace." Now that's interesting. BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/22/2005 11:50:44 AM >>> I must ask, is this actual, real interest, or a simulated interest leading to an assignment of writing a column somewhere? Because this is not interesting at all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:44:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGhsWm006424 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:43:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:44:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FE23E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:40:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:40:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MGeLSn009172 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:40:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so350279nzo for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr303583nzb; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:40:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=R6Kq5QTcyH8oCrNGW/8m+MAPBxiHHRoxrcQrqEOUeI6N+js7u+/Ambjc+51o08joO2aOSBU9MxJ2qZ8OoEwdXaKmeZP/fMAaeHWsjDo/UkIRRlUMTdHc5YxLYL+dujjZ+FpAV0QUdcgqfL3kniIv0EBZxQHtzXle28MquxMf72U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504220940796a82b3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:40:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the season approacheth In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050422083459.0279dba0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70504220830727ffcdd@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050422083459.0279dba0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3MGhsWm006424 On 4/22/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > At 08:30 AM 4/22/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >On 4/22/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > > > This is one place that we differ as ETs This concoction sounds like it > > > would make me ill. The few chocolate things I like are the ones that > > > are very lightly chocolate. > > > > > > >It's the differences that are the spice in our friendship. > > You need to take a walk under a clear, moonlit sky and discuss these > differences. > > BB > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:44:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGhsWm006426 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:43:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:44:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FE14F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:33:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:33:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MGXrbA008149 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:33:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so28835nzp for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr302217nzt; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:33:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NV+cXAy0r6uX9nbg2DqgK1b/Ll6dW4slqseG1tSrv5pwEXnF+XLtJv2xCMYINYPN4EHEqI/vQyNjDIsz3shB1vZIQa5k9Qdq3xy0QRZRXKmY84t/bGdy3AU0Ckgn5j/qFqfLit64sTPxrlYD7e7XFuhi+erUZw1645JjrgCSmYc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042209337538f72c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:33:53 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spain ! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3MGhsWm006426 On 4/22/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > from AP: > > Spain Parliament Passes Gay Marriage Bill > > http://tinyurl.com/alltf > Because they already lisp? -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:44:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGhsWm006428 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:43:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:44:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FE23B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:39:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:39:50 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MGdnEk009086 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:39:50 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:39:49 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:39:16 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Spain ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU LOL ! You are pithy ! BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/22/2005 12:33:53 PM >>> Because they already lisp? -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:48:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGlxWm006932 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:48:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:48:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FE0B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:47:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:47:59 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MGlwvS010564 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:47:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so352684nzo for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr303933nzb; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:47:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Y8PMJJeeJ5AF7cpm+78kl3naWk+azGMx8uLiQALzwWs9+tLKfb8H01/KHySkaKfqBcmdw8C3PCUJGhc7KcRr194ePPf4mOvK5yistA+n1WyKoMPhIKb4Fv3bjgM4rPYveLpOfR9x/v8hc8w7iVdP6ZMoSfyNBKNS8iGfUghi/6k= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042209476cb64614@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:47:58 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spain ! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3MGlxWm006932 Yabbut, you are pretty.:) On 4/22/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > LOL ! You are pithy ! > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/22/2005 12:33:53 PM >>> > > Because they already lisp? > -- > Karen > "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures > abroad > and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I > can't > stand." -- Molly Ivins > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 11:49:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MGnZWm007059 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:49:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:49:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FE1BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:49:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 612112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:49:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MGnY5Z010921 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:49:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1296615nzp for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.20 with SMTP id t20mr305780nzt; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:49:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MdbDvozVB4aMoA1tyMCMY347frSfPmyGXy39QwKGHCQbPK1RHOXtwXZWyMdo5HsBS+nkJ6HxRRvNaxnsTJ3BQnlne08fv/bSKN4PPpUdEfmFk7XjFxAJoXlQ7R5Ft4gGK3B2LUlTwt/1u3WPoDXK4uykXHRFoA+OgrHpD9tJt8I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042209493dfae600@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:49:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rogers Cadenhead In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3MGnZWm007059 On 4/22/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Since you "must ask" I'll tell you. It is actual, real interest. > > Cadenhead's demands of the Vatican in order to turn over the domain > name to them include - "One of those hats" "Complete absolution, no > questions asked, for the third week of March 1987" and " World peace." > > Now that's interesting. > Yes! I want to know about March, 1987. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 12:22:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MHMKWm011020 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:22:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:22:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FE377@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:22:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 615131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:22:20 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MHMJu6016411 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:22:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17245193 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:28:21 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:20:39 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:22:19 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200504221722.j3MHMJu6016411@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:20:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1725591782.20050422112019@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re[2]: it's just so M-I-T Resent-from: Dan Lester MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=71480, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/22/2005, 7:57 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> Even then, the registration fees were usually manageable, the cwv> venues usually offered a variety of lodging alternatives, and if I was cwv> invited to present a paper (as opposed to volunteering one), the cwv> registration fee often was waived. cwv> Simpler times. Indeed. And these days, being tenured, working in a state where we're happy with a one percent raise per year (and that not based on merit), and nearing retirement, I don't submit a whole lot if not invited. And even then they had better cover the registration (often about $500). I can usually get the university to cover the travel and hotel, and am willing to cover some myself if need be. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 12:49:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MHn9Wm013784 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:49:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:49:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FE2AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:49:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:49:08 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MHn7k3021053 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:49:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17129045 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:02:58 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:21:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:21:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1747681419.20050422112112@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: the perfect gift In-Reply-To: References: <9910121936.20050421155158@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=59408, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/22/2005, 8:25 AM, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: BO> Is this for real? 'Cause Jodi is the matron of honor for about the BO> most conservative Christian we've ever met. (We suspect she's getting BO> married because she's horny.) I think she'd love the WWJD candy BO> hearts at her bridal shower. Sure it is real. But what about the WWJD panties? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 12:49:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MHnAWm013790 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:49:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:49:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FE46F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:49:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:49:09 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MHn99s021059 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:49:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17129050 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:03:00 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:26:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:25:45 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1389599084.20050422112545@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=59411, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/22/2005, 9:59 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Tell it to the RIAA and their silly ideas about "theft". DMH> Why go to the RIAA? We have Dan and Natalie right there to rave DMH> on about their "property". Huh? What property have I, or do I, rave about? Gee, I have a house and car and a computer and some books....which is about what most of us have. Oh and a dog and a betta. So what does that have to do with copying tunes? I've got lots of copied tunes. Some of them I even own the original CD (have about 300 of those). Now let the RIAA or some other group of assholes try to take away my DVR....and we may have a war....but I don't consider those recordings "property" since I don't keep them. Why would I? dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 12:49:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MHnFWm013798 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:49:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:49:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FE3AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:49:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:49:15 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MHnEnr021078 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:49:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17129069 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:03:05 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:30:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:29:46 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1321357967.20050422112946@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Rogers Cadenhead In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=59416, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/22/2005, 10:37 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> Since you "must ask" I'll tell you. It is actual, real interest. PB> Cadenhead's demands of the Vatican in order to turn over the domain PB> name to them include - "One of those hats" "Complete absolution, no PB> questions asked, for the third week of March 1987" and " World peace." PB> Now that's interesting. I see those "demands" as being a joke, and his offer of the domain to the Vatican as being genuine. Of course if he wanted to really help them he'd have also bought benedictxvisucks.com and a bunch of other variations.... And it appears that that one is still out there for someone to buy....as are benedictxvisucks.net benedictxvisucks.org benedictxvisucks.info benedictxvisucks.biz benedictxvisucks.tv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 13:32:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MIWMWm019449 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:32:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:32:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FE577@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:11:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 620228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:11:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MIB1eH024891 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:11:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1503076nzf for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.61.11 with SMTP id j11mr317824nza; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:11:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ea5WSY6Ambh0D7menY7vUvIixbXFaJUhmMOSygvSCg7QCsMpxqsKEk7d8WwwlqFAEJJap0fQaC/+Lt+ZLIEE19vUoDByjDUertS+ysCTeWC77kk+/XIDZ0blsvIUa2STNaLsZYI74hMRHhvhv6xhNWDDsYgtI5vT3kTxOl2dx3k= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:11:01 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the perfect gift In-Reply-To: <1747681419.20050422112112@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <9910121936.20050421155158@gailndan.com> <1747681419.20050422112112@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3MIB1eH024898 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Sure it is real. But what about the WWJD panties? Oh, heavens, she'd blush at a mid-length skirt. Those would be truly unmentionable. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 13:32:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MIWMWm019447 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:32:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:32:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FE3B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:11:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 620222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:11:20 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MIAvqs024832 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:10:57 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:10:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:10:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Rogers Cadenhead Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU well duh >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/22/2005 1:29:46 PM >>> I see those "demands" as being a joke From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 13:45:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MIisWm020990 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:44:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:45:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FE49B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:44:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:44:54 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3MIYrDi029827 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:34:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 9917 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2005 18:34:51 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:34:51 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: word of the day Message-ID: <20050422183451.GA9785@words-l.org> References: <20050422182935.GA14317@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050422182935.GA14317@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 08:29:35PM +0200, steph wrote: > the word of the day is 'tapotement' because flickr falldowngoboomgoddammit TY for this update From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 13:55:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MItWWm022664 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:55:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:55:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FE4DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:55:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 624589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:55:32 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MItVr8001861 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:55:32 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:55:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:55:20 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Laurel and Hardy write the news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU China Daily: "Hu urges Asia-Africa strategic partnership" BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 13:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MIxhWm023158 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:59:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:59:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F22EBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 621655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:34:52 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3MIOqqu028027 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:24:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 4737 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2005 18:24:51 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:24:51 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rogers Cadenhead Message-ID: <20050422182451.GA3263@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 12:37:30PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Since you "must ask" I'll tell you. It is actual, real interest. > > Cadenhead's demands of the Vatican in order to turn over the domain > name to them include - "One of those hats" "Complete absolution, no > questions asked, for the third week of March 1987" and " World peace." > > Now that's interesting. Great to know. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 13:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MIxhWm023153 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:59:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:59:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F22E3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:29:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 621924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:29:38 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MITaxF028754 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:29:37 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3MITZTB015325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:29:35 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3MITZta015323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:29:35 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:29:35 +0200 To: words-l Subject: word of the day Message-ID: <20050422182935.GA14317@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU the word of the day is 'tapotement' because flickr falldowngoboomgoddammit From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 13:59:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MIxhWm023160 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:59:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:59:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F22E91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:37:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:37:35 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MIbYDh030488 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:37:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17334203 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:37:54 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:37:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:37:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <58584829.20050422123728@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: word of the day In-Reply-To: <20050422182935.GA14317@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050422182935.GA14317@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 173, in=58495, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/22/2005, 12:29 PM, steph wrote: s> the word of the day is 'tapotement' Interesting....I've had such, but just never heard that word before. thanks dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 13:59:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MIxhWm023156 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:59:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:59:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F22F74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:42:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:42:47 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3MIWjrW029220 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:32:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 8820 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2005 18:32:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:32:45 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! Message-ID: <20050422183245.GB3263@words-l.org> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <1389599084.20050422112545@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1389599084.20050422112545@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 11:25:45AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/22/2005, 9:59 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> Tell it to the RIAA and their silly ideas about "theft". > > DMH> Why go to the RIAA? We have Dan and Natalie right there to rave > DMH> on about their "property". > > Huh? What property have I, or do I, rave about? Gee, I have a house > and car and a computer and some books....which is about what most of > us have. Oh and a dog and a betta. > > So what does that have to do with copying tunes? I've got lots of > copied tunes. Some of them I even own the original CD (have about 300 > of those). Now let the RIAA or some other group of assholes try to > take away my DVR....and we may have a war....but I don't consider > those recordings "property" since I don't keep them. Why would I? First off, I congratulate you on another bad ass declaration of war. Please do continue raging against the machine and all forces of evil. Secondly, it strikes me as a bit hokey to say that copying a tune or a bit of software is like lighting a candle with another candle. Admittedly, it's less hokey than the analogy between lighting candles and extending human rights, which is incomprehensible. Thirdly, your and Natalie's blatherings about your immemorial and inalienable rights to your lameass temporal real estate are too well known to cover up like this. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 13:59:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MIxhWm023161 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:59:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:59:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F22F7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:43:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:43:25 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3MIXPs6029305 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:33:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 8971 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2005 18:33:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:33:24 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rogers Cadenhead Message-ID: <20050422183324.GC3263@words-l.org> References: <1321357967.20050422112946@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1321357967.20050422112946@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 11:29:46AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/22/2005, 10:37 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > PB> Since you "must ask" I'll tell you. It is actual, real interest. > > PB> Cadenhead's demands of the Vatican in order to turn over the domain > PB> name to them include - "One of those hats" "Complete absolution, no > PB> questions asked, for the third week of March 1987" and " World peace." > > PB> Now that's interesting. > > I see those "demands" as being a joke, and his offer of the domain to > the Vatican as being genuine. Of course if he wanted to really help > them he'd have also bought benedictxvisucks.com and a bunch of other > variations.... And it appears that that one is still out there for > someone to buy....as are > > benedictxvisucks.net > benedictxvisucks.org > benedictxvisucks.info > benedictxvisucks.biz > benedictxvisucks.tv Interesting! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 14:12:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MJCIWm025091 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:12:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:12:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FE60D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:02:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 625220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:02:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MJ2Hwr003265 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:02:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so86396nzp for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr316032nzt; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:02:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EPFyBHNEvY33DxLgrA4ldLl9vSlw1qOdQWSw1i2t6f6VY5ke0MoN5BUS74w0ZFZb3REAfQvvXqGccKUUZMKzhPtDLrV/VihFfP01T4XkHAUdebXmf2KnrdPUHmTjy7sNYiSsz6g3lr53A9OLHyLHTYGJCeRSkD4TjrRvVCACRek= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042212021fe5c0b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:02:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Laurel and Hardy write the news In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3MJCIWm025091 On 4/22/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > China Daily: > > "Hu urges Asia-Africa strategic partnership" > Who? -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 14:43:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MJhmWm028834 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:43:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:43:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FE601@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:43:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 629511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:43:48 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MJhmWG011756 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:43:48 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3MJhi7S022976 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:43:47 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3MJfVjD012738 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:41:32 -0400 Message-ID: <0acd01c54773$491b6370$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Laurel and Hardy write the news Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:41:30 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU About this time of year in 2001, recall the mid-air collision between a Navy Orion aircraft of ours, and a Chinese fighter? What was Chinese pilot's name? Wasn't it Wong Wei ? Good grief... ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: Laurel and Hardy write the news > China Daily: > > "Hu urges Asia-Africa strategic partnership" > > > BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 14:51:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MJp9Wm029612 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:51:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:51:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FE64B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:51:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 630597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:51:08 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MJp8La013557 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:51:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17145682 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:04:57 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:51:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:51:05 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1968638039.20050422135105@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: <20050422183245.GB3263@words-l.org> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <1389599084.20050422112545@gailndan.com> <20050422183245.GB3263@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=59480, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/22/2005, 12:32 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> First off, I congratulate you on another bad ass declaration of war. Thank you, kind sir. DMH> Please do continue raging against the machine and all forces of evil. DMH> Secondly, it strikes me as a bit hokey to say that copying a tune DMH> or a bit of software is like lighting a candle with another candle. I never mentioned any candles, in this thread or elsewhere. The candle shit was someone else. Don't know, or remember, who. And certainly not interested in looking it up, which will be left as an exercise for the student, or others who give a flying fuck. DMH> Admittedly, it's less hokey than the analogy between lighting candles DMH> and extending human rights, which is incomprehensible. You are completely correct. DMH> Thirdly, your DMH> and Natalie's blatherings about your immemorial and inalienable rights DMH> to your lameass temporal real estate are too well known to cover up DMH> like this. What temporal real estate? I'm not sure I've ever even talked about my real estate. If so, when? Citation, please. Lived in the same house for a decade, and doubt I've ever mentioned much of anything about it. Plain old tract house at the edge of town. Big enough for two people and a dog. And a two car garage. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 14:52:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MJpxWm029685 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:52:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:52:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FE80C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:51:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 630694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:51:59 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MJpwIa013795 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:51:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17145803 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:05:50 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:52:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:51:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <262132699.20050422135158@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Laurel and Hardy write the news In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042212021fe5c0b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705042212021fe5c0b9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 175, in=59499, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/22/2005, 1:02 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> China Daily: >> >> "Hu urges Asia-Africa strategic partnership" >> AFoA> Who? Hu. He's on first. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 15:21:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MKLTWm000885 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:21:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:21:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FE7FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:21:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 632150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:21:29 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MKBTVa017465 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:11:29 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j3MKBSoY002157 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:11:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200504222011.j3MKBSoY002157@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Lauantaimakkara in Boston Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Any Boston wordslurs happen to know where to buy lauantaimakkara, or > any Finnish food stores that might be worth calling? The only place that comes to mind is Cardullo's --- a gourmet food shop with an international array of products ... it is on Brattle Street in Harvard Square in Cambridge ... sorry no phone book nearby here. I haven't been in the store in a while -- don't recall whether there was a selection of sausages --- worth a call, I would think. Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 17:36:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MMaSWm017123 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:36:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:36:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FEB90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:36:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 642370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:36:27 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MMaROU007176 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:36:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.81]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050422223627.SHTK2072.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:36:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42697C67.7080506@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:36:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Hail's Bails Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hail is crashing wildly. Hope it doesn't dent my new roof. And if the thunder comes closer, I'm gonna have to turn off the computer, just as I was ready to catch up on a big pile of unread mail. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 18:12:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MNC0Wm022514 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:12:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:12:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FEA37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:07:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 643961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:07:15 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MN7FG6011071 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:07:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.81]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050422230714.NBOF2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:07:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4269839F.30104@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:07:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hail's Bails References: <42697C67.7080506@maynor.net> <001101c5478d$ddff15d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <001101c5478d$ddff15d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > We had storms yesterday and hail just missed > us . . . just a few miles south, however, they > had hail a foot deep. The hail stopped here, the thunder receded, and the sun is now shining. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 18:12:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MNC0Wm022512 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:12:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:12:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FEBD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 643478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:01:58 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MN1vFt010218 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:01:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.81]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050422230157.MZEV2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:01:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42698262.7040500@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:01:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <1389599084.20050422112545@gailndan.com> <20050422183245.GB3263@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050422183245.GB3263@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Thirdly, your >and Natalie's blatherings about your immemorial and inalienable rights >to your lameass temporal real estate are too well known to cover up >like this. > > I know zero about copying music and have no opinion on it. Didn't know that's what we were talking about until reading (or sort of reading -- glancing at) Dan's reply. And I don't know what real-estate rights you're talking about. When a repairman said that my floor might fall in forty years from now because of some kind of under-the-house problem, I said that that was fine with me. I don't give a shit what happens to this house (or the land upon which it sits) after I'm dead -- or after I've moved to a nursing home. Iow, I have no particular feelings about real estate. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 18:12:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MNC0Wm022515 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:12:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:12:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FE9FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:53:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 642935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:53:18 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MMrFWx008913 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:53:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.81]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050422225315.MVND2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:53:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:53:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 11:52:53AM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > >>>"To light a candle from another that is already burning does not >>>diminish the light of that first candle, but rather serves to brighten >>>the room." >>> >>> >>Tell it to the RIAA and their silly ideas about "theft". >> >> > >Why go to the RIAA? We have Dan and Natalie right there to rave >on about their "property". > > What's RIAA? And what does it have to do with me? What "property" am I raving about? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 18:12:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3MNC0Wm022509 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:12:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:12:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FEBB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:51:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 642923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:51:54 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3MMpsu9008823 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:51:54 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 292AD2599833 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:51:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001101c5478d$ddff15d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42697C67.7080506@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Hail's Bails Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:51:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: Hail's Bails > Hail is crashing wildly. Hope it doesn't dent my new roof. And if the > thunder comes closer, I'm gonna have to turn off the computer, just as I > was ready to catch up on a big pile of unread mail. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) We had storms yesterday and hail just missed us . . . just a few miles south, however, they had hail a foot deep. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 22 23:53:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3N4rFWm032078 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:53:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:53:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F24000@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 0:53:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 659703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:53:14 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3N4hEOk010600 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:43:14 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j3N4hDtM004666 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:43:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200504230443.j3N4hDtM004666@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: I like this quote ! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor > > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 11:52:53AM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > > > >>>"To light a candle from another that is already burning does not > >>>diminish the light of that first candle, but rather serves to brighten > >>>the room." > >>> > >>> > >>Tell it to the RIAA and their silly ideas about "theft". > >> > >> > > > >Why go to the RIAA? We have Dan and Natalie right there to rave > >on about their "property". > > > > > What's RIAA? And what does it have to do with me? What "property" am I > raving about? I assumed RIAA referred to the Recording Industry Association of America. I did not quite get the connection when I read the message. Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 00:11:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3N5BiWm002092 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:11:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:11:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FF13B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 1:01:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 660478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:01:36 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3N51ZPn012133 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:01:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C18BE8C2 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <42686441.5090806@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Jesus died so that we would know when to plant tomatoes X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:01:05 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Survivor (nothing given away here) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:41 PM -0700 4/21/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I enjoyed tonight's Survivor. When I watched last night, I was a little bit pissed off at Jeff. It seemed to me as though Jeff was goading Janu into quitting -- that without his pressure she would have just pulled a Shawna. Not that Stephenie doesn't deserve to stay in the game, but it's not about who deserves, it's about game play, and it bothered me for Jeff to interfere like a deus ex machina. Today, however, an interview that Janu gave got rid of my misgivings. She was ready to quit except that she didn't want to lose her place on the jury (Osten, Jenna M, and Susan Hawk all quit before the jury stage). Jeff and the management held a quick pow-wow, looked at their rulebooks, and assured her that she would be on the jury, no matter what, and she was outta there. The lesson for future Survivors is: don't rely on a game plan that is dependent on keeping a wounded member against their will. Of course, they should already have learned that they should always have a Plan B. >And I'm finally beginning to get the >people straight -- as in all those people on the tribe we didn't see >much of earlier. You mean "all those people on the tribe we weren't paying any attention to earlier." It's true that we didn't see much of them, but what we saw was all relevant. EPMB doesn't waste a second of screen time. Ken Miller Cesternino School of Survival Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 00:50:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3N5nqWm007480 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:49:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:50:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F240D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 1:49:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 661073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:49:52 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3N5dpwo014695 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:39:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 76684 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Apr 2005 05:39:50 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:39:50 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Laurel and Hardy write the news Message-ID: <20050423053950.GA75722@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 02:55:20PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > China Daily: > > "Hu urges Asia-Africa strategic partnership" That's Abott and Costello. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 01:12:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3N6CGWm010353 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:12:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:12:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FF389@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 2:02:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 661406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 02:02:14 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3N5qDAl015606 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:52:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 96591 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Apr 2005 05:52:13 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:52:13 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! Message-ID: <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 05:53:11PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 11:52:53AM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > >>>"To light a candle from another that is already burning does not > >>>diminish the light of that first candle, but rather serves to brighten > >>>the room." > >>> > >>> > >>Tell it to the RIAA and their silly ideas about "theft". > > > > > >Why go to the RIAA? We have Dan and Natalie right there to rave > >on about their "property". > > > What's RIAA? And what does it have to do with me? What "property" am I > raving about? Well, it's a good thing I don't give a flying fuck ... "BFD" is what I usually say to just about everything, and that's the secret of my unfading happiness. Anyway, I do seem to remember your going into an unexpectedly vehement fit over the idea someone touching YOUR tree on your property. It wasn't the concept of your property per se that was interesting stuff, but its elevation to some sort of suprahuman absolute. Its ludicrousness was evident from the fact that Dan "fuck everything" Lester immediately agreed with you and probably awarded you a gold star. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 01:17:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3N6H9Wm010882 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:17:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:17:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FF1EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 2:17:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 662887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 02:17:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3N6786D017818 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 02:07:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 10938 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Apr 2005 06:07:08 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:07:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! Message-ID: <20050423060708.GA99508@words-l.org> References: <200504230443.j3N4hDtM004666@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504230443.j3N4hDtM004666@math.umb.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 12:43:13AM -0400, Joan Boorstein wrote: > > I assumed RIAA referred to the Recording Industry Association of America. > I did not quite get the connection when I read the message. The connection is obvious. The RIAA would say, roughly, that a song on a disc is "property" in the same sense as merchandise. Making a copy without paying the RIAA is theft. A competing analogy, though a poor one, is that of lighting a candle with another--presumably, lighting the new candle doesn't take anything away from the old one. Etc. At any rate, this shows why the RIAA has the upper hand. This is not the time and place to light candles at all. Lighting candles is effiminate. This is the time and place for strong men who don't give a flying fuck (but certainly don't tire of making loud nonstop statements of the fact), Therefore, whoever uses the metaphor of protecting against thieving wins. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 07:14:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NCEOWm005016 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:14:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:14:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F24403@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 8:14:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:14:24 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NCEOj0006372 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:14:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.212.116]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050423121423.FEKE22125.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:14:23 -0400 Message-ID: <426A3C17.5090105@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:14:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! References: <200504230443.j3N4hDtM004666@math.umb.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504230443.j3N4hDtM004666@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan Boorstein wrote: >>What's RIAA? And what does it have to do with me? What "property" am I >>raving about? >> >> > >I assumed RIAA referred to the Recording Industry Association of America. >I did not quite get the connection when I read the message. > > Once I found out what RIAA was, I gathered that the connection was sort of like the marketing principle that says both stores do better when a second store of a certain kind (e.g., grocery store) moves in across the street. That's not really exactly the same thing -- just something like that -- like maybe pirating of music makes people want more music and makes the industry prosper -- or something like that. (What any of that has to do with me, I don't know.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 07:20:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NCKrWm005792 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:20:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:20:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F24422@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 8:20:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:20:53 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NCKqBP006824 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:20:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.212.116]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050423122052.FFSX22125.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:20:52 -0400 Message-ID: <426A3DA1.5030800@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:20:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor (nothing given away here) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >about game play, and it bothered me for Jeff to interfere like a deus ex >machina. > > He did seem a bit . >>And I'm finally beginning to get the >>people straight -- as in all those people on the tribe we didn't see >>much of earlier. >> >> > >You mean "all those people on the tribe we weren't paying any attention to >earlier." It's true that we didn't see much of them, but what we saw was >all relevant. EPMB doesn't waste a second of screen time. > > I never learn much about all of the people until the group is narrowed down quite a bit. In this case the only ones on that other tribe I had noticed much were Ian (because he looks different -- the glasses, I guess), Coby, and the NYC fireman (or is it policeman?). I was also aware of the couple hunkering up together, though I didn't remember who they were in other scenes. It wasn't until this week that I realized that Janu was who she was. I kept associating the name Janu with the short-haired person who is a lawyer. It seems that they often showed her picture on the screen when somebody mentioned Janu. Or maybe it's that she and Janu wore similar head gear at times. I don't know. One thing re Survivor that enters my mind from time to time is that when things are said about somebody being "all alone" -- like Steph after her original tribemates were gone and like Janu in this week's episode, they aren't really alone. There's the camera person filming them. I realize, of course, that the camera person doesn't help them start fires or find food or whatever, but it's still not exactly like being totally alone in the wilderness. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 07:26:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NCQPWm006378 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:26:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:26:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FF4FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 8:26:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:26:25 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NCQPl1007207 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:26:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.212.116]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050423122625.FHBN22125.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:26:25 -0400 Message-ID: <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:26:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Anyway, I do seem to remember your going into an >unexpectedly vehement fit over the idea someone touching YOUR tree >on your property. It wasn't the concept of your property per se that >was interesting stuff, but its elevation to some sort of suprahuman >absolute. > As you say, that wasn't about property per se -- it was about laws or rules or whatever butting into people's lives in silly ways. It's like my feelings about some things going on re houses/yards in my neighborhood right now. There's no homeowners' association as such (SOFO is something slightly different from that, as is the Fondren Renaissance Foundation). Iow, there are no "neighborhood rules." But the city apparently has laws of some kind that have to do with keeping property looking good. I've forgotten (or never knew) the exact nature of the laws. Anyway, some man not far from here has been turned in to the city powers for having a house in bad repair and a yard with strange items in it. There was an enthusiastic report on him recently saying that he is under "house arrest" and has until X date to clean up his yard and fix up his house. It's true that it's an eyesore and that eyesores are unpleasant, but there's something about arresting him for his taste that bothers me. He might find it pleasant to look at dead flowers in pots in his front yard, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 08:11:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NDBqWm013424 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:11:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:11:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F24442@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 9:01:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:01:51 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NCpoei009803 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:51:51 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3NCpVea005497 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:51:31 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:51:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, Natalie, re Catalan. I was not able to download from the website, but I emailed with my request and have received two wav files. I doubt I will learm much Catalan between now and May 17 - it is taking most of my free time to review espanol enough to be able to function with some degree of politeness. I may find something to take with me on the plane. I love April - we typically get about 3.5 seasons during April. We have had gorgeous spring days -low 70s, light breezes, etc. It has also been up in the 80s. Tonight it is to be 38 - and snow is forecast for nearby areas for tomorrow. I remember at last 2-3 snowfalls in Knoxville during the last week of April. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 08:25:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NDPBWm014831 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:25:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:25:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F244DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 9:25:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:25:10 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3NDF9jl012148 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:15:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 19592 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Apr 2005 13:15:09 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:15:09 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! Message-ID: <20050423131509.GA18121@words-l.org> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 07:26:21AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Anyway, I do seem to remember your going into an > >unexpectedly vehement fit over the idea someone touching YOUR tree > >on your property. It wasn't the concept of your property per se that > >was interesting stuff, but its elevation to some sort of suprahuman > >absolute. > > As you say, that wasn't about property per se -- it was about laws or > rules or whatever butting into people's lives in silly ways. This is significantly less vehement than what I remember. Good to know that such laws are merely silly. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 10:48:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NFmeWm027923 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:48:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:48:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FF59C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:21:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:21:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NFLDAx024863 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:21:13 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1309816wra for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.8.62 with SMTP id 62mr1008033wrh; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:21:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tC5I5283NWrKP3znwgVetaWo184CZwpEyAgJIqCdKypHpxxM2xuuxr5cC9GBFTWgiTYHCs+uFvVWMguzgQVIzuagMlFUJnsqmPLV/xAwU6dvWGN7q2b5ce2/XOPqHn6yRLL0QOi1O13jGUvh50fjA2h4z3SbjlfqCBMNE2BmjpI= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:21:13 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: <809960443.20050423085819@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <809960443.20050423085819@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3NFmeWm027923 > > Most people wouldn't like their next door neighbors > having waist high weeds, a porch that was falling down, etc. > And that's not just aesthetics. High weeds attract rodents. Falling down porches are a hazard to delivery people and neighborhood children. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 10:48:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NFmeWm027921 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:48:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:48:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FF56C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:55:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:55:55 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NEttjQ022374 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:55:55 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17428627 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:20:46 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.174.96]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:56:15 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:55:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1569850619.20050423085554@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=61355, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/22/2005, 11:52 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> Its ludicrousness was evident from the DMH> fact that Dan "fuck DMH> everything" Lester immediately agreed with you and DMH> probably awarded DMH> you a gold star. If you say so. Of course without seeing the evidence I'll continue to think you're full of shit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 10:48:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NFmeWm027924 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:48:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:48:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FF72D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:58:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:58:20 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NEwKlo022597 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:58:20 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17403029 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:58:40 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.174.96]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:58:39 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:58:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <809960443.20050423085819@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 174, in=58735, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/23/2005, 6:26 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But NM> the city apparently has laws of some kind that have NM> to do with keeping NM> property looking good. I've forgotten (or never NM> knew) the exact nature NM> of the laws. Most cities do. And the further lines I didn't quote indicate that they're enforced. Most people wouldn't like their next door neighbors having waist high weeds, a porch that was falling down, etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 10:59:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NFxRWm029296 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:59:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:59:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FF5EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:49:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:49:27 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3NFdQGT026799 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:39:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 630 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Apr 2005 15:39:26 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:39:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! Message-ID: <20050423153926.GA99455@words-l.org> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <1569850619.20050423085554@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1569850619.20050423085554@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 08:55:54AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/22/2005, 11:52 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> Its ludicrousness was evident from the > DMH> fact that Dan "fuck > DMH> everything" Lester immediately agreed with you and > DMH> probably awarded > DMH> you a gold star. > > If you say so. Of course without seeing the evidence I'll continue to > think you're full of shit. "Evidence" ... that's a master stroke From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 10:59:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NFxRWm029298 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:59:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:59:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FF6FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:52:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:52:47 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3NFgkxI027124 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:42:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 1859 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Apr 2005 15:42:46 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:42:46 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! Message-ID: <20050423154246.GB99455@words-l.org> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <809960443.20050423085819@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 11:21:13AM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > Most people wouldn't like their next door neighbors > > having waist high weeds, a porch that was falling down, etc. > > And that's not just aesthetics. High weeds attract rodents. Falling down > porches are a hazard to delivery people and neighborhood children. And as a matter of fact, there isn't anything at all that's "just aesthetics"! That's the diabolical beauty of neighborhood "zone" laws--they are always totally reasonable. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 11:09:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NG9GWm030703 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:09:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:09:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F24636@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:59:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:59:54 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NExsAj022731 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:59:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17428872 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:24:45 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.174.96]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:00:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:59:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1486597408.20050423085953@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=61356, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/23/2005, 6:26 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> He might find it NM> pleasant to look at dead NM> flowers in pots in his front yard, etc. And I'd find it pleasant to drive 130 mph on the nice freeway through the desert. However, others wouldn't, so there are laws against it. In some cities there are roaming code enforcement people who check things like that, but in general I think it is neighbor complaints that lead to things like that. From info@zynetmail.info Sat Apr 23 14:55:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from zynetmail.info (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NJtGWn026457 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:55:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200504231955.j3NJtGWn026457@gtoal.com> Received: from 209.203.195.51 ([209.203.195.51]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:55:25 CDT From: "summit media" Subject: Summit signs est. $600,000 contract To: words-l@gtoal.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: info@zynetmail.info Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:55:16 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SETG Online Media Newsletter
Summit Entertainment Group Inc
Summit Media Services Signs Estimated $600,000 Services Contract 
OTCPK:SETG | 04.11.05 | Volume # 137 | Summit Media
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Summit Media Services Signs Estimated $600,000 Services Contract

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About Summit Media Services

Summit Media Services. (SMS) aspires to be one of the industry's most trusted and successful providers of marketing services. Greg Kemp, Summit Entertainment's CMO stated, "From web ads to permission-based email, we help online marketers develop and execute marketing strategies that generate consistent, measurable results." He concluded, "As a business owner you need to ask yourself, are you paying for services you're not receiving?"

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About Summit Entertainment Group Inc.

Headquartered in Houston Texas, Summit Entertainment Group (Pink Sheets:SETG) aspires to be a leading diversified owner and operator of multiple entertainment properties, including developments located in Las Vegas, Reno, Nevada, and Louisiana. Summit Entertainment Groups press releases are available at the company website located at http://www.summitentgroup.com or www.knobias.com additional news and information on Summit can be obtained by contacting the company directly at (281) 255-9424.

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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 18:15:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NNFKWm017173 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FFBFE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:25:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:25:11 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NMPBpO012357 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:25:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050423222511.UOLO1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:25:11 -0400 Message-ID: <426ACB43.6080604@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:25:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <1486597408.20050423085953@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1486597408.20050423085953@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> He might find it >NM> pleasant to look at dead >NM> flowers in pots in his front yard, etc. > >And I'd find it pleasant to drive 130 mph on the nice freeway through >the desert. However, others wouldn't, so there are laws against it. > > There are lots of people who believe that driving 130 mph is a threat to the safety of other drivers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 18:15:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NNFKWn017173 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FFCFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:11:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:11:05 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NNB5Cp016287 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:11:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17434750 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:11:25 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.174.96]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:11:24 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:11:04 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <467278943.20050423171104@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: <426ACB43.6080604@maynor.net> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <1486597408.20050423085953@gailndan.com> <426ACB43.6080604@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 174, in=58826, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/23/2005, 4:25 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> There are lots of people who believe that driving NM> 130 mph is a threat to NM> the safety of other drivers. Although if I'm doing it on I-84 in the Idaho desert, where the nearest car ahead or behind is at least a mile....the threat to others is pretty minimal. Which is why three times a year they close the roads near here for Open Road Racing, where people can go as fast as they want on the highway, under carefully controlled conditions. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 18:15:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NNFKWm017165 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FFC25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:30:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:30:29 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NMUTvB012803 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:30:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050423222805.UPAW1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:28:05 -0400 Message-ID: <426ACBF1.3060108@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:28:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <809960443.20050423085819@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>Most people wouldn't like their next door neighbors >>having waist high weeds, a porch that was falling down, etc. >> >> > And that's not just aesthetics. High weeds attract rodents. Falling down >porches are a hazard to delivery people and neighborhood children. > > Correct. The case I was talking about not far from here does not involve anything like that. The problems are that the house has badly chipped paint, he has some kind of ugly wood covers over a couple of windows, and he has (or had -- he's cleaned this part up now) ugly flower pots in his front yard, some empty and some displaying bedraggled brown plants. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 18:15:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NNFKWn017168 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FFDAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:09:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:09:34 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NN9YwT016162 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:09:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17459317 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:34:30 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.174.96]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:09:53 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:09:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <616595460.20050423170933@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: <426ACB43.6080604@maynor.net> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <1486597408.20050423085953@gailndan.com> <426ACB43.6080604@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 172, in=61425, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/23/2005, 4:25 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> However, others wouldn't, so there >>are laws against it. >> >> NM> There are lots of people who believe that driving NM> 130 mph is a threat to NM> the safety of other drivers. Yes, as I noted, some wouldn't agree with my wishing to do so. There are probably some who would disagree with my murdering the Diegetic Mutant Hog, too, so I probably won't. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 18:15:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NNFKWm017172 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.005FFB33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:25 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NMWPc3012994 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050423223225.UPYA1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:25 -0400 Message-ID: <426ACCF5.4040200@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:32:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <809960443.20050423085819@gailndan.com> <20050423154246.GB99455@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050423154246.GB99455@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >And as a matter of fact, there isn't anything at all that's >"just aesthetics"! That's the diabolical beauty of neighborhood >"zone" laws--they are always totally reasonable. > > I thought zoning laws were about whether all structures had to be single-family dwellings or whether duplexes or garage apartments were allowed or whether regular apartment buildings were also allowed or whether businesses were also allowed. Some neighborhoods have agreements people sign when moving to the neighborhood that have to do with things other than that, but those aren't zoing laws in the usual sense of that term. (And I do not want to live in a neighborhood that has its own rules.) Some people might not like the color of my house -- taupe. Should they insist that I paint it another color? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 18:15:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NNFKWm017168 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FFC9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:22:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:22:06 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NMM66b011941 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:22:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050423221931.UNEW1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:19:31 -0400 Message-ID: <426AC9EF.5060701@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:19:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I doubt I >will learm much Catalan between now and May 17 - it is taking most of my >free time to review espanol enough to be able to function with some degree >of politeness. > I think you'll get along fine in Barcelona with just Spanish. My uncle has lived in Barcelona and Sitges for a long time and claims not to know Catalan. For some reason he dislikes Catalan. I feel sure that he does understand it and could speak it if he bothered to do so since he has always had a knack for picking up languages. In addition to being native-like in Spanish, he can get along well enough to do interviews in French and German and can manage basic communication in Italian and Portuguese. I don't know what it is he has against Catalan. Anyway, he lives happily in Catalan-country without speaking it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 18:15:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NNFKWm017170 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.005FFCAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:24:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:24:09 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NMO8Tr012271 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:24:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050423222408.UOEK1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:24:08 -0400 Message-ID: <426ACB04.3030501@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:24:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <809960443.20050423085819@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <809960443.20050423085819@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Most people wouldn't like their next door neighbors >having waist high weeds, a porch that was falling down, etc. > > Waist-high weeds could encroach upon a neighbor's life by attracting various creatures. A falling-down porch might also present clear problems, depending on how close it is to one's property -- fire hazards, etc. Those are different situations from simply not liking the way a place looks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 18:32:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NNWDWm018712 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F24ECC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:22:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:22:11 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NMMBNj011957 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:22:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.94]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050423222156.UNOD1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:21:56 -0400 Message-ID: <426ACA81.2010606@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:21:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <20050423131509.GA18121@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050423131509.GA18121@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > This is significantly less vehement than what I remember. My memory of that discussion is that it was mainly about forestry -- and that I concluded that some Wordslers apparently live in tree-deprived environments. What I remember being vehement about was the ridiculous notion espoused by some that cutting down trees is always A Bad Thing. That's ridiculous. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 18:32:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NNWDWm018714 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.005FFD17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:22:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:22:12 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NNMC8q017259 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:22:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.94]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050423232212.MMOD22125.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:22:12 -0400 Message-ID: <426AD8A0.4070903@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:22:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <1486597408.20050423085953@gailndan.com> <426ACB43.6080604@maynor.net> <467278943.20050423171104@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <467278943.20050423171104@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> There are lots of people who believe that driving >NM> 130 mph is a threat to >NM> the safety of other drivers. > >Although if I'm doing it on I-84 in the Idaho desert, where the >nearest car ahead or behind is at least a mile....the threat to others >is pretty minimal. > That is why I said "there are lots of people who believe" it -- I did not say that they were correct. My point was that people see that as a safety issue, which is a different thing from an aesthetics issue. I also think the man's house looks bad and am happy that he's going to have to make it look better since houses and yards that look bad decrease property values in the neighborhood. But, as I said when I introduced that example, I also have misgivings about such things. If this man likes his ugly empty pots in the yard, something bothers me about making him remove them. I doubt that anybody objects to my taupe house, but if I decided to paint it black with red murals on its front, should I be turned in to the for uglifying the neighborhood? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 18:32:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3NNWDWn018712 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:32:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F25046@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:17:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:17:03 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3NNH28w016748 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:17:03 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17351383 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:25:18 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.174.96]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:17:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:17:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <8810018132.20050423171702@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: <426ACCF5.4040200@maynor.net> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <809960443.20050423085819@gailndan.com> <20050423154246.GB99455@words-l.org> <426ACCF5.4040200@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 177, in=71738, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/23/2005, 4:32 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I thought zoning laws were about whether all NM> structures had to be NM> single-family dwellings or whether duplexes or NM> garage apartments were NM> allowed or whether regular apartment buildings were NM> also allowed or NM> whether businesses were also allowed. Yes, that is what zoning laws do. The one you're responding to didn't use the term correctly. NM> Some NM> neighborhoods have NM> agreements people sign when moving to the NM> neighborhood that have to do NM> with things other than that, but those aren't zoing NM> laws in the usual NM> sense of that term. Those are generally termed Restrictive Covenants. And if you want to live there, you have to agree to those terms, just as you agreed to some terms when you signed a contract at MSU...probably that you not use drugs, not look at porn on your university computer, not hit the dean, not commit a felony, etc. Along that line our VP Student Affairs was just indefinitely suspended on Friday for being arrested for DUI and child endangerment. She was drunk, driving wrong way on a one way street, and had her eight year old kid with her. NM> (And I do not want to live in a NM> neighborhood that NM> has its own rules.) Fine. Then don't. And the rules can be changed by the residents if they want, just like changes in Faculty Senate rules, State Board of Education rules, etc. This is like some people won't work at a place that has random drug testing. Their choice. NM> Some people might not like the NM> color of my house -- NM> taupe. Should they insist that I paint it another NM> color? Well, if you lived in a place that had RCs you might be limited on color choices. Most wouldn't allow chartreuse or dayglow orange, I imagine. Ours require that we have two trees in front yard, that back yards be fenced with specific types of fencing, etc. And of course that things be maintained, no RVs or Boats or such parked in your driveway, etc. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 23 22:08:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3O37rWm013790 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:07:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:08:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00600107@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:07:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:07:52 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3O2vq5E002821 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:57:52 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3O2vWqV025496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:57:32 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:57:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I am in love. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU With the Preservation Hall Jazz Band. Until tonight, I had never heard them outside the French Quarter. Their music was superb - my favorite jazz - and their showmanship was first-rate. Their concert at the Tennessee Theatre ended with a short parade - when they stopped, at least 40-50 members of the audience were on stage with the band, umbrellas were up, some were dancing - woo-hoo! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 10:30:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3OFULWm032098 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:30:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:30:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F25CF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 11:23:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:23:52 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3OFNq9Y027117 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:23:52 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F25D47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 11:23:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:23:52 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't know what it is he has against Catalan. Anyway, he >lives happily in Catalan-country without speaking it. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) ... which, of course, includes parts of southwestern France and Andorra. ALW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 10:30:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3OFULWm032096 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:30:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:30:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F25CC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 11:10:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:10:20 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3OFAKAx025874 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:10:20 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00600595@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 11:10:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200504241510.j3OFAKAx025874@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:10:20 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: the perfect gift To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:11:01 -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> Sure it is real. But what about the WWJD panties? > >Oh, heavens, she'd blush at a mid-length skirt. Those would be truly >unmentionable. Tupperware. ALW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 10:32:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3OFWAWm032194 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:32:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:32:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F25D58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 11:32:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:32:10 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3OFWAxE027997 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:32:10 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F25D1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 11:32:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200504241532.j3OFWAxE027997@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:32:09 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Fw: FW: Work Ethics? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:59:29 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >I'm certainly not defending the behavior of most of the assholes on >The Hill, but....I'm not sure a lot would be different if you looked >at 500 people down at the local factory, or even at the university. ... *especially* universities. ALW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 10:32:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3OFWgWm032244 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:32:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:32:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006006D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 11:32:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:32:42 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3OFMfUi026992 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:22:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 45220 invoked by uid 1003); 24 Apr 2005 15:22:41 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:22:41 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! Message-ID: <20050424152241.GA41667@words-l.org> References: <20050422155905.GA1260@words-l.org> <42698057.4080606@maynor.net> <20050423055213.GB75722@words-l.org> <426A3EED.30700@maynor.net> <1486597408.20050423085953@gailndan.com> <426ACB43.6080604@maynor.net> <616595460.20050423170933@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <616595460.20050423170933@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 05:09:33PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/23/2005, 4:25 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> However, others wouldn't, so there > >>are laws against it. > >> > >> > NM> There are lots of people who believe that driving > NM> 130 mph is a threat to > NM> the safety of other drivers. > > Yes, as I noted, some wouldn't agree with my wishing to do so. There > are probably some who would disagree with my murdering the Diegetic > Mutant Hog, too, so I probably won't. That's very decent of you. Or would be, if I gave a flying fuck ... as it is, I don't. "BFD", I say. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 10:58:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3OFwoWm003870 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:58:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:58:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F25D31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 11:38:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:38:49 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3OFcnG2028653 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:38:49 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F25D7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 11:38:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200504241538.j3OFcnG2028653@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:38:49 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: I am in love. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Their concert at the Tennessee >Theatre ended with a short parade - when they stopped, at least 40-50 >members of the audience were on stage with the band, umbrellas were up, >some were dancing - woo-hoo! > >Bethany Good to hear they know how to "get down" at the TT. ALW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 15:49:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3OKnQWm009906 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:49:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:49:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00600923@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 16:49:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:49:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3OKnQ1k030530 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:49:26 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2623E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 16:49:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200504242049.j3OKnQ1k030530@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:49:26 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: I am in love. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:38:49 -0400, Mrs. Williams wrote: >Their concert at the Tennessee >>Theatre ended with a short parade - when they stopped, at least 40-50 >>members of the audience were on stage with the band, umbrellas were up, >>some were dancing - woo-hoo! >> >>Bethany > >Good to hear they know how to "get down" at the TT. > >ALW Hello, Mrs. Williams - how is life? I understand there were some outstanding wildflower displays in NM this spring - was that true in your area? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 15:50:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3OKoJWm009986 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:50:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:50:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F26207@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 16:50:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:50:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3OKoJHO030648 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:50:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so835273nzo for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr433519nzb; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:50:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=SIRFtxOy+joqs6VLzDjLP4d3vYZktqaZG68P3RtnjByxGF3JotlIn2Fm8b7f9jAhRvwiF1Hlgr3Tb7x2ba9VMhQ9K9cAeTbkdyxTHUXrp96iyG/8s/6Ulzy8hp/RCJHjyd4omZqjniAuZH7s7fbu2VB87EhegaNiskTzGOjVfwM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050424135070a93282@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:50:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: You guys are QUIET. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3OKoJWm009986 Adam, I love the Sloan CD "Cool Morning". That's where the song I heard on the radio that made me say I thought she was interesting came from. I think it might have been Cool Morning that he played. Very interesting that I hate the one and love the other; I usually like everything by artists I like. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 16:57:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3OLvWWm018369 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:57:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:57:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00600B9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 17:57:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:57:32 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3OLvWkk006504 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:57:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.124]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050424215731.FMCK1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:57:31 -0400 Message-ID: <426C1647.70400@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:57:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mrs. Williams wrote: >I don't know what it is he has against Catalan. Anyway, he > > >>lives happily in Catalan-country without speaking it. >> >> > >... which, of course, includes parts of southwestern France and Andorra. > > Obviously. I'm pretty sure it's the only official language in Andorra, though certainly not the only language. But what does any of that have to do with Bethany's upcoming visit to Barcelona? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 17:07:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3OM7IWm019986 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:07:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:07:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00600C06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 18:07:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:07:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3OM7Hkf007796 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:07:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so2050062nzf for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.59.18 with SMTP id h18mr438881nza; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:07:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mDtKljrf2tXFpM4H4U4MrtNQ63iNxS9+VYxXectIupFyLdWCqr73gQm05UPZxVZJbv1CWnoBH++cmK7bnV+55/xepf7M2nkcEYJvxs8+4wvPDzyTwI3+yzMe2jAaYnDS1NEejuynI4mCJb7OI8mVjv00J9y4CQzNyysSUPL3xmc= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:07:17 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I like this quote ! In-Reply-To: <20050423060708.GA99508@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200504230443.j3N4hDtM004666@math.umb.edu> <20050423060708.GA99508@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3OM7Ikf007797 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At any rate, this shows why the RIAA has the upper hand. > This is not the time and place to light candles at all. Lighting > candles is effiminate. Well, better to light a Molotov cocktail than to curse the darkness. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 17:09:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3OM9GWm020142 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:09:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:09:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00600B03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 18:09:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:09:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3OM9Fak007984 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:09:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so2050386nzf for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.5 with SMTP id o5mr439231nza; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QWI+UUR9fYjQLnCdas//cZkxKNSy3kpDgumP3PV9amRqFr0ug99Mg2qHtIcC7DVVPKmsDyhwXzRyq7OcB7daYoPqpVocJGoW2TWG+K36hr4XCIH4e0cli3+7tnRCF4lyBnLs2VxSzCEqJqMB4bRcAhS6B/3kL+2e73Zi7FTy5UM= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:09:14 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Laurel and Hardy write the news In-Reply-To: <0acd01c54773$491b6370$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <0acd01c54773$491b6370$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3OM9Fak007985 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Wasn't it Wong Wei ? No. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 18:36:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ONaGWm030442 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:36:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:36:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00600BE4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 19:36:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:36:15 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ONaFJ5018067 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:36:15 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050424233611013000djmne>; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:36:11 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: You guys are QUIET. Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:36:04 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050424135070a93282@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Adam, I love the Sloan CD "Cool Morning". That's where the song I > heard on the radio that made me say I thought she was interesting came > from. I think it might have been Cool Morning that he played. Very interesting > that I hate the one and love the other; I usually like everything by artists I like. Well, there is about 8 or 9 years between the two CDs. Artists change. I saw Hem in reduced-format last night at the Iron Horse, and have been listening non-stop all day to a full-band concert disc that arrived in yesterday's mail. If I can overcome my fear of scary Boston, I may go see them again on May 6 at the Paradise lounge. http://www.eveningland.com for those of you who like to chase URLs. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 18:54:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ONsNWm032583 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:54:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:54:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00600D15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 19:54:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:54:23 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ONsMtk020205; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:54:23 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 53914767; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:22 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050424165228.028410e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 16:54:42 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: You guys are QUIET. In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a7050424135070a93282@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:36 PM 4/24/2005, Adam Hartfield wrote: >http://www.eveningland.com for those of you who like to chase URLs. > >--Adam It's become the list of URLs. Adam, you should check out Los Lonely Boys when they come to Springfield. http://www.loslonelyboys.org/subset_tour.html Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 18:59:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ONwwWm000464 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:58:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:59:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00600D1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 19:58:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:58:58 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ONww9l020784 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:58:58 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-29.gwi.net [216.195.164.29]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3ONwp0o025787; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:58:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050424195639.01c03b08@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:58:04 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <426C1647.70400@maynor.net> References: <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426C1647.70400@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:57 PM 4/24/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Obviously. I'm pretty sure it's the only official language in Andorra, >though certainly not the only language. But what does any of that have >to do with Bethany's upcoming visit to Barcelona? Probably nothing, but as Verdant has noted, this is f***ing words-l. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 19:21:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P0LNWm004100 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:21:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:21:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00600DFE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:14:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:14:59 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P0EwcF022892 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:14:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.124]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425001458.ZAAC2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:14:58 -0400 Message-ID: <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:14:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426C1647.70400@maynor.net> <6.2.0.14.0.20050424195639.01c03b08@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050424195639.01c03b08@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Probably nothing, but as Verdant has noted, this is f***ing words-l. True. It's just that some things seem more non-sequiturish than others. But then sequiting is perhaps in the eyes of the sequiturer. And where is Verdant? She's been quiet for too long. My forum-leading went fine this morning, btw. I'm reminded of it right now because I'm still not sure how somebody's memory of his first encounter with a straw got into the discussion of suicide, military stuff, etc. Church is fun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 19:21:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P0LNWm004098 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:21:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:21:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00600C18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:01:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:01:22 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P01Mmh021089 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:01:22 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005042500012101400atl0te>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:01:21 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: You guys are QUIET. Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:01:14 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050424165228.028410e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Adam, you should check out Los Lonely Boys when they come to Springfield. > > http://www.loslonelyboys.org/subset_tour.html I checked them out when Marie posted their URL for chasing. I've also heard them on the radio. So far they just get a big meh from me. Maybe if I go to the Eastern States Exposition for other reasons this year I'll go on that day and see them anyways. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 19:21:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P0LNWm004102 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:21:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:21:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00600D57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:18:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:18:48 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P0ImSv023261 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:18:48 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F2665B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:18:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200504250018.j3P0ImSv023261@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:18:48 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: I am in love. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Hello, Mrs. Williams - how is life? Hi! Ours, anyway, is great! >I understand there were some outstanding wildflower displays in >NM this spring - was that true in your area? Yes, in spades. Trips through the Superstitions and around Tucson the past weeks hath wrought splendid displays of flora. It looks as though the 10-year drought may be cycling on; we've been getting the edge of what "weather conditions" California's been getting this winter, and now it's still much cooler than usual. We'll take it! ALW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 19:21:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P0LNWm004101 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:21:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:21:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00600D3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:11:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:11:57 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P0BvG8022517 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:11:57 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F26634@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:11:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200504250011.j3P0BvG8022517@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:11:57 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: You guys are QUIET. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Adam, you should check out Los Lonely Boys when they come to Springfield. > >http://www.loslonelyboys.org/subset_tour.html > >Betty Hey! I was just checking out Ticketmaster for LLB, here August 2. We've just come from the same venue (Dodge Theatre)in Phoenix where we saw Sesame Street Live: Elmo's Coloring Book. All the meebers dug it! Nice production. I was intrigued by the LLB poster in the lobby I saw afterward. The Moody Blues will be there before then, but the best seats are all gone. John's seen them before anyway--and I'm ambivalent. ALW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 19:26:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P0QNWm004815 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:26:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:26:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00600E18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:26:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:26:23 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P0QMs1024248 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:26:23 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 53919920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:26:21 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050424172553.02856010@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:26:39 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> References: <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426C1647.70400@maynor.net> <6.2.0.14.0.20050424195639.01c03b08@pop.gwi.net> <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:14 PM 4/24/2005, you wrote: >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >>Probably nothing, but as Verdant has noted, this is f***ing words-l. > >True. It's just that some things seem more non-sequiturish than >others. But then sequiting is perhaps in the eyes of the sequiturer. >And where is Verdant? She's been quiet for too long. She has to get some work done. >My forum-leading went fine this morning, btw. I'm reminded of it right >now because I'm still not sure how somebody's memory of his first >encounter with a straw got into the discussion of suicide, military >stuff, etc. Church is fun. Pray for all the meebers. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 19:30:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P0TxWm005114 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:30:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:30:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00600C61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:29:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:29:58 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P0Twv4024730 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:29:58 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1385151wri for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.51 with SMTP id 51mr1643328wrw; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:29:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=etGnppkF0slVaGaWF4tqG5lleuxgtFIzh5lAsc3hFUoMNN1VxSnk84XHvXN8hgzwoRgTh/72/GLGacRS/Wj7XutCs5TFF9JAVbh46wH5JeLUVvPBP7ie4l7gc5/63XxZCBQm4ex8jLl/gvxxXjJgA/NbGkNGSXoFDD26P8d35UI= Message-ID: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:29:58 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: quiet day Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3P0TxWm005114 Yes, it was a quiet day---not much to report to the eager multitudes of words-l or anybody else, for that matter. We awoke to fog and rain. The weekend has been rainy, which is a good thing. Despite the torrential downpour in early April (about 5 inches worth), it has been a dry spring---dry enough that ANP had posted the high fire danger warning. Bonnie did the cat-sitting ritual this morning while I made our usual Sunday breakfast. Bonnie is pretty much packed for the journey; I did most of my packing today. Tomorrow will be a fill-in-the-corners and try-to-fit-what-we-forgot-earlier day. We checked again with the airline---no unpleasant surprises (in this day and age, one is thankful for small victories). For a change, I believed the forecasters and didn't try to cook outside; good thing, because after a couple of hours of partial sunshine and gusty winds, the fog and rain settled in again this early evening, big time. Tomorrow will be devoted to things like stopping the mail and papers, doing a run to the transfer station, and generally muddling through last-minute considerations. Dinner will be a clean-out-the-veggie-drawer woked meal with rice and a little pork. Then on Tuesday we drive to Bangor to begin the trek to have breakfast---very early---on Wednesday with Steph, then on to Bergen. We are about as ready as we ever will be. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 19:37:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P0b2Wm006309 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:37:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:37:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00600C6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:37:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:37:01 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P0b1Ua025738 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:37:01 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F2668C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:37:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200504250037.j3P0b1Ua025738@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:37:01 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > If just occurred to me that I misquoted Verdant. I believe that her quote >was: This is words f***ing-l..." > cwv Yes -- the "infix" version! ALW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 19:44:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P0i2Wm007560 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:44:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:44:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F2668B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:34:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:34:02 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P0Y2IW025202 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:34:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1385709wri for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.77.16 with SMTP id z16mr1637838wra; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:34:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=N6bW/728rs9muyaah1EC7pF6wTrHo053tW3sXcXbir7XUk4Eqgd/Rx3QvFbgHzDcpQyn8RuE3ff9YzQvVtIU5I7EPsUh/iE4OLhz21e9cWpk4w42uNt0RbOYDE7Bv6lZ5e+7diMItdDcpZvwPzP3H4/mwlhzR6ck/B7XLJdWzZ0= Message-ID: <83db447a05042417341e03a65a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:34:01 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426C1647.70400@maynor.net> <6.2.0.14.0.20050424195639.01c03b08@pop.gwi.net> <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3P0i2Wm007560 On 4/24/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > > Probably nothing, but as Verdant has noted, this is f***ing words-l. > > True. It's just that some things seem more non-sequiturish than > others. But then sequiting is perhaps in the eyes of the sequiturer. > And where is Verdant? If just occurred to me that I misquoted Verdant. I believe that her quote was: This is words f***ing-l..." cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 19:52:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P0qfWm008711 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:52:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:52:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00600C8E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:52:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 27349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:52:40 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P0qdTF027888 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:52:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.124]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425005237.ULSZ2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:52:37 -0400 Message-ID: <426C3F53.4080600@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:52:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426C1647.70400@maynor.net> <6.2.0.14.0.20050424195639.01c03b08@pop.gwi.net> <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050424172553.02856010@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050424172553.02856010@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: >> And where is Verdant? She's been quiet for too long. > > She has to get some work done. Work. Oh, yes. Just this afternoon I was wondering again about how I ever managed to fit work-for-pay into my life. Somebody this afternoon said that people ask him what he does with his time now that he's retired. He said that he's started replying, "I watch tv." I may start saying something like that also when I get that question. It really is hard to explain to people still in the working world how many, many things eat up time when you're retired and how life feels just as hectic -- except for an extremely pleasant sort of underglow that reminds you that it's all by choice now -- that you may be way over-committed and be under time stress but that it's not like regular work. I think a better word than "hectic" may be "full" -- a wondrous fullness of interesting goings-on. >> Church is fun. > > Pray for all the meebers. I'm pondering whether this is directed to me -- that I should pray for meebers at church -- or whether it's a general statement that meebers should somehow be worried because I find church fun. If the former, indeed I will think good thoughts re meebers while in a , which I guess is sort of like praying for somebody. If the latter, not to worry -- I sincerely do love talking about religion, as I've said before, but I sincerely figured out not to here. I've read a couple of good church history books lately that I've been discussing elsewhere, but this is not the place for such discussion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 20:27:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P1RWWm013409 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:27:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:27:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00600DAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 21:01:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 27610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:15 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P11EwE028836 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.124]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425010112.UPWA2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:01:12 -0400 Message-ID: <426C4156.9050702@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:01:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Re: quiet day References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Re Amsterdam, I was wondering when reading Newsweek why the plane with > the two suspicious Saudis had to turn around and go back to Amsterdam > instead of just zipping down the Atlantic coast, around Florida, and > then to Mexico City. I guess maybe that slight diversion to the east > might mean not enough fuel -- as opposed to heading on down via Canada > and the US. Or more to the point -- as opposed to flying back across the Atlantic to Amsterdam. Iow, I guess the amount of fuel for Amsterdam->Mexico City via Canada and the US included enough to get back to Amsterdam but not enough to slither down the right side of the map and around. (I guess I should consult a globe and ponder this further.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 20:27:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P1RWWm013411 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:27:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:27:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00600E52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 20:57:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 27476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:57:23 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P0vNuf028403 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:57:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.124]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425005718.UNXT2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:57:18 -0400 Message-ID: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:57:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quiet day References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > Then on Tuesday we drive to Bangor to begin the trek to have >breakfast---very early---on Wednesday with Steph, then on to Bergen. We are >about as ready as we ever will be. > > Sounds excellent! Re Amsterdam, I was wondering when reading Newsweek why the plane with the two suspicious Saudis had to turn around and go back to Amsterdam instead of just zipping down the Atlantic coast, around Florida, and then to Mexico City. I guess maybe that slight diversion to the east might mean not enough fuel -- as opposed to heading on down via Canada and the US. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 20:55:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P1tVWm016355 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:55:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:55:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00600D3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 24 Apr 2005 21:55:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:55:31 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P1jVSL001408 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:45:31 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3P1j8Y4000774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:45:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:45:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Catalan country Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > ... which, of course, includes parts of southwestern France and Andorra. Indeed ... and your comment brings back great memories. The first time I was in Barcelona (1963), a group of us drove down from Toulouse, spending one night in Andorra (I remember our great dinner that night). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Apr 24 23:55:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P4tFWm008353 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:55:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:55:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006012A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 0:55:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:55:10 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P4t9mV022493 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:55:10 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D04BE8C4 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <426C4156.9050702@maynor.net> References: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Jesus died so that we would know when to plant tomatoes X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:54:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: quiet day Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 6:01 PM -0700 4/24/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Or more to the point -- as opposed to flying back across the Atlantic to >Amsterdam. Iow, I guess the amount of fuel for Amsterdam->Mexico City >via Canada and the US included enough to get back to Amsterdam but not >enough to slither down the right side of the map and around. (I guess I >should consult a globe and ponder this further.) In lieu of a globe, try a fun internet toy known as the Great Circle Mapper . Enter AMS-MEX in the "Paths" box, select "ortho" as the map style, put JFK as the map center, and submit. What you'll find is that the plane's route goes over a line of states from New York to Louisiana. As you will see, it would indeed be quite a detour to slither around. I suppose it depends on the place where the plane was when they were notified, but a working slither route would be AMS-YQX-NAS-MEX (that's by way of Gander and Nassau). The mapper tells us that the direct route is 5729 miles, while the detour route is 6041 - a difference of over a thousand miles. (The trip back to Amsterdam is on the order of 2500 miles.) Of course, that's just mileage, and doesn't account for winds. Ken Miller Bellman School of Cartography From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 00:11:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P5AtWm011091 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:10:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:11:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006011BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 1:00:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 01:00:54 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P50srf023107 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 01:00:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C697BBE8BE for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <83db447a05042417341e03a65a@mail.gmail.com> References: <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426C1647.70400@maynor.net> <6.2.0.14.0.20050424195639.01c03b08@pop.gwi.net> <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Jesus died so that we would know when to plant tomatoes X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:00:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 5:34 PM -0700 4/24/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > If just occurred to me that I misquoted Verdant. I believe that her quote >was: This is words f***ing-l..." Janet has undoubtedly quoted that phrase, but, as best I can recall, it was first introduced, or at least first popularized, by Dan Lester. "Everyone on this list is a critic. It's what we ." -- Myles Callum Ken Miller Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L studies. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 03:41:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P8fOWm028179 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 03:41:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 03:41:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060150B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 4:35:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 47565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 04:35:21 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3P8ZJha011989 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 04:35:20 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042510261414190 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:26:14 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:27:48 +0200 Message-ID: <426CAA03.4020702@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:27:47 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Laurel and Hardy write the news References: <8ddfc8a705042212021fe5c0b9@mail.gmail.com> <262132699.20050422135158@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <262132699.20050422135158@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2005 08:27:48.0166 (UTC) FILETIME=[A9AB2E60:01C54970] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester skrev 22.04.2005 21:51: >4/22/2005, 1:02 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > >>>China Daily: >>> >>>"Hu urges Asia-Africa strategic partnership" >>> >>> >>> > >AFoA> Who? > >Hu. He's on first. > > > I that this was Abbott and Costello, not Laurel and Hardy. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 03:42:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3P8fOWm028176 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 03:41:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 03:41:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006014FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 4:21:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 47364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 04:21:23 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3P8LMUu010754 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 04:21:23 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042510194114059 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:19:41 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:21:15 +0200 Message-ID: <426CA87B.8070800@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:21:15 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Visiting Sweden References: <3c1d5b50050420114079c7aeee@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705042011532460136@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042011532460136@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2005 08:21:15.0439 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF95CBF0:01C5496F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 20.04.2005 20:53: >On 4/20/05, Espen Ore wrote: > > >>Tomorrow at 7AM I'm off to Borås to give a talk. Back again Friday >>afternoon, and I can visit the shopping mall Norstan in Gothenburg on >>my way home to get some Swedish delicacies such as pickled fried >>herring - this is unavailable in Norway afaik. >> >> >> > >First fried and then pickled? Or pickled and then fried? > > First fried, then pickled. But I didn't find any at the fish-monger's in Norestan in Gothenburg. >I wish I liked herring better than I do. > >What are you talking about? > > Text encoding, electronic editions. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 05:06:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PA6cWm011671 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:06:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:06:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006013CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 5:56:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 49053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:56:36 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3P9uakG021282 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:56:36 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:56:36 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:56:24 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Laurel and Hardy write the news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You and Tushar are correct. I misspoke. BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> espen.ore@GMAIL.COM 04/25/05 4:27 AM >>> I that this was Abbott and Costello, not Laurel and Hardy. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 06:36:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PBaaWm020817 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:36:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:36:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00601614@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 7:36:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:36:36 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PBaZoT022267 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:36:36 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 88752720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:36:35 -0400 Message-ID: <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:36:35 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: No breathing yet References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, Take a look at our plaza today. > http://www.bc.edu/publications/atbc/webcams/oneill/ None of that stuff out there is breathing as far as I know. I checked it thoroughly on my way in just now. Does any of it look like what you saw before? Rita L. P.S. I'll let you guess what it is about for a while. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 07:11:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PCB7Wm025069 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:11:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:11:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060158A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 8:11:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:11:07 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PCB7VS025765 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:11:07 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:11:07 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:10:39 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: he wasn't alone Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU VATICAN CITY -- Pope Benedict XVI is reported to have said he prayed to God during the conclave not to be elected pope but that "evidently this time He didn't listen to me." BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 07:12:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PCCpWm025313 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:12:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:12:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F27315@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 8:12:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:12:51 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PCCpur026155 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:12:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.128.109]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425121251.HBRN2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:12:51 -0400 Message-ID: <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:12:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quiet day References: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > The mapper tells us that the direct route is >5729 miles, while the detour route is 6041 - a difference of over a >thousand miles. (The trip back to Amsterdam is on the order of 2500 >miles.) Of course, that's just mileage, and doesn't account for winds. > > Aha. That's what I was talking about -- that it seemed to me that it would be farther to turn around and go back to AMS. Supposedly the plane was on this side of the Atlantic (don't know exactly where) when the change in plans occurred. I think what Newsweek said was that it "had already crossed the Atlantic." One thing that has interested me in watching the little airplane on the screens on long flights is how little time most flights are actually over open oceans -- how so often they go up and up and then make their way out over stepping stones of land to get to the other side of the ocean, leaving relatively short stretches of just water under them. Is that because it's safer to be closer to emergency-landing places, or is it because of winds and stuff, or some other reason, or just an oddity of flights I've happened to notice it on? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 07:21:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PCLcWm026439 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:21:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:21:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00601793@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 8:21:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:21:38 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PCLcSQ027438 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:21:38 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1727158wra for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.14.18 with SMTP id 18mr514538wrn; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:21:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=i56TaMxuLLQVYx2mdg5PRBdpognHUlfag358Z0moHrtD1fhcSH+MGJPI9yg15Tn6dKg+tGCOH0QCUzkSA3BUgaOYPsbiS0McF6NTyWI3oUasFo1jaZClr98IaNojwCNbCm/k257lpswP2UPoQda0/+NKW5d3gPYxxHZG10shn9Q= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:21:37 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quiet day In-Reply-To: <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3PCLcWm026439 > > One thing that has interested me in watching the little airplane on the > screens on long flights is how little time most flights are actually > over open oceans -- how so often they go up and up and then make their > way out over stepping stones of land to get to the other side of the > ocean, leaving relatively short stretches of just water under them. Is > that because it's safer to be closer to emergency-landing places, or is > it because of winds and stuff, or some other reason, or just an oddity > of flights I've happened to notice it on? -- Natalie It's not an oddity of flights that you have been on. On a clear night, it's amazing how many flights go over Bar Harbor. We are the closest point of US land to Europe. It is also why Bangor is popular for deplaning unruly passengers -- --bonniev From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 07:26:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PCPrWm026907 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:25:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:26:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F2730F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 8:19:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:19:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PCJXNo027139 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:19:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:19:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:19:09 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: an intriguing invitation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I got email from my new-found cousin in London. She has invited me for the weekend of July 9-11 for her parents' anniversary. I'm seriously considering it. I did a quick check of prices for SYR-LHR and found that it would be about $700-900 round trip. Anyone have any good ideas about cheaper flights? BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 07:26:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PCPrWm026905 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:25:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:26:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F272E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 8:15:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:15:52 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PCFqpr026518 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:15:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.128.109]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425121552.HDGP2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:15:52 -0400 Message-ID: <426CDF74.2000706@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:15:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No breathing yet References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > http://www.bc.edu/publications/atbc/webcams/oneill/ > > None of that stuff out there is breathing as far as I know. I checked > it thoroughly on my way in just now. Does any of it look like what you > saw before? Not really, but I'm wondering about that pile of box-like things on the left. Possibly one of them sitting alone could start breathing. I'll look again later. Meanwhile, a red van is speeding -- or at least going too fast for that circle street around the building. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 07:50:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PCo8Wm030098 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:50:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:50:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006017FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 8:40:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:40:07 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PCe7nS029971 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:40:07 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-23.gwi.net [216.195.167.23]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3PCe10o009802; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:40:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050425081658.01bebc58@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:18:00 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: References: <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426C1647.70400@maynor.net> <6.2.0.14.0.20050424195639.01c03b08@pop.gwi.net> <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:00 AM 4/25/2005, Bookrat wrote: >At 5:34 PM -0700 4/24/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > If just occurred to me that I misquoted Verdant. I believe that her quote > >was: This is words f***ing-l..." > >Janet has undoubtedly quoted that phrase, but, as best I can recall, it was >first introduced, or at least first popularized, by Dan Lester. I didn't intend to imply authorship---hers was the one I remember. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 07:50:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PCo8Wm030101 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:50:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:50:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060175B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 8:44:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:44:21 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PCiLHk030479 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:44:21 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-23.gwi.net [216.195.167.23]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3PCiH0o010642; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:44:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050425082153.01bf9d60@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:26:25 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: quiet day In-Reply-To: <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> References: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:12 AM 4/25/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: One thing that has interested me in watching the little airplane on the >screens on long flights is how little time most flights are actually >over open oceans -- how so often they go up and up and then make their >way out over stepping stones of land to get to the other side of the >ocean, leaving relatively short stretches of just water under them. Is >that because it's safer to be closer to emergency-landing places, or is >it because of winds and stuff, or some other reason, or just an oddity >of flights I've happened to notice it on? On transatlantic flights, my guess is that it simply happens to be the geography underlying the great circle route that they are flying. The DTW-AMS route (thanks, Ken) shows that after leaving the NA coast near Cartright, Newfoundland, we will be over water until the cross the northern tip of Ireland. There really aren't that many places for emergency landings, e.g., Thule, Gander, Iceland, (and of course the drunk tank at Bangor). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 07:50:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PCo8Wm030099 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:50:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:50:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00601757@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 8:43:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:43:58 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PChwG4030388 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:43:58 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 94561569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:43:58 -0400 Message-ID: <426CE60D.2060601@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:43:57 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No breathing yet References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> <426CDF74.2000706@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <426CDF74.2000706@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Not really, but I'm wondering about that pile of box-like things on the > left. Possibly one of them sitting alone could start breathing. They are cement blocks. Breathing is unlikely. > I'll > look again later. Meanwhile, a red van is speeding -- or at least going > too fast for that circle street around the building. > Yes, that happens a lot. It is especially fun when somebody does it going the wrong way around. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:17:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDHRWm001859 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:17:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:17:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060170F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:17:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:26 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDHO3A003801 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17607163 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:17:45 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:17:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:17:25 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <697206659.20050425071725@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: quiet day In-Reply-To: References: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 176, in=59072, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/24/2005, 10:54 PM, Bookrat wrote: B> The mapper tells us that the direct route is B> 5729 miles, while the detour route is 6041 - a difference of over a B> thousand miles. Huh? Looks like 312 difference to me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:18:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDIfWm002048 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:18:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:18:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006018CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:18:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:18:41 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDIbaE004021 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:18:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17607255 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:18:58 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:18:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:18:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <237449247.20050425071838@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: References: <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> <200504241523.j3OFNq9Y027117@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426C1647.70400@maynor.net> <6.2.0.14.0.20050424195639.01c03b08@pop.gwi.net> <426C367F.6060402@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.989000 Adult word fuck=0.7,Adult word fucking=0.7,Subject has many exclamations=0.7 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 176, in=59073, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/24/2005, 11:00 PM, Bookrat wrote: B> At 5:34 PM -0700 4/24/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> If just occurred to me that I misquoted Verdant. I believe that her quote >>was: This is words f***ing-l..." B> Janet has undoubtedly quoted that phrase, but, as best I can recall, it was B> first introduced, or at least first popularized, by Dan Lester. I doubt I invented it, but have used it. Don't recall using it in some months, but can't be sure. After all, words-fucking-l is pretty good at fucking with our minds. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:20:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDJvWm002289 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:19:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:20:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F27563@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:19:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:19:57 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDJQBK004185 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:19:26 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17627446 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:44:50 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:19:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:19:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <958778383.20050425071926@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Laurel and Hardy write the news In-Reply-To: <426CAA03.4020702@gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705042212021fe5c0b9@mail.gmail.com> <262132699.20050422135158@gailndan.com> <426CAA03.4020702@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 174, in=61741, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/25/2005, 2:27 AM, Espen S. Ore wrote: >>AFoA> Who? >> >>Hu. He's on first. >> >> >> ESO> I that this was Abbott and Costello, not Laurel and Hardy. You are correct. Not sure who mis-attributed it, but know it wasn't me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:25:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDPWWm003030 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:25:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:25:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F275BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:25:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:25:26 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDPQIr005903 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:25:26 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 88762158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:25:26 -0400 Message-ID: <426CEFC5.2010007@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:25:25 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No breathing yet References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> <899580043.20050425072201@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <899580043.20050425072201@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Huh? I see people walking along the walks, across the plaza, up the >steps, etc. They appear to be alive. Are they apparitions? Fairly >decent computer graphics? > > Generally, I do not refer to people as "stuff". Regardless, the human "stuff" was not present earlier today when I first posted. Classes have begun for the day; the students (mostly) are now awake and moving about. Lots of breathing going on; but not by boxes. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:29:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDTDWm003326 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00601716@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:19:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:19:13 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDJ8KT004134 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:19:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.213.181]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425131710.OBWN1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:10 -0400 Message-ID: <426CEDD2.7080204@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:17:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: an intriguing invitation References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > I did a quick check of prices for SYR-LHR and found >that it would be about $700-900 round trip. Anyone have any good ideas >about cheaper flights? > > You could of course do much, much better than that at other times of year, but I think it will be hard to find a decent price for July. (But I think you should do it anyway!) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:29:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDTDWm003333 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006018E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:23:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:23:01 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDN1Ar005130 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:23:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.213.181]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425131927.OCXP1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:19:27 -0400 Message-ID: <426CEE5B.40808@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:19:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quiet day References: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> <6.2.0.14.0.20050425082153.01bf9d60@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050425082153.01bf9d60@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > tip of Ireland. There really aren't that many places for emergency > landings, e.g., Thule, Gander, Iceland, (and of course the drunk tank at > Bangor). That thought entered my mind when I started thinking about what Greenland looks like from the air. I once took some amazingly good pictures of the snowy mountains of Greenland from a Delta flight -- amazingly good because of taking them with a very cheap camera through an airplane window way up in the sky. Some of the Alaskan landscape looks kind of like that also on transpacific flights. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:29:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDTDWm003334 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00601835@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:23:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:23:34 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDNX1v005308 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:23:33 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17607656 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:23:55 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:23:53 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:23:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <64357672.20050425072334@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: he wasn't alone In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 176, in=59077, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/25/2005, 6:10 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> VATICAN CITY -- Pope Benedict XVI is reported to have said he prayed to PB> God during the conclave not to be elected pope but that "evidently this PB> time He didn't listen to me." Well, maybe God answered, but the answer was NO. Understand your similar prayer...but not sure that any of the others would be much different in theology and doctrine. You don't get to that level in the church by being a radical. Radical priests, yes. Maybe even a few radical bishops....but cardinals? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:29:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDTDWm003331 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006018EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:25:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:25:31 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDPR0I005907 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:25:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17627942 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:50:52 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:25:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:25:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <148929705.20050425072528@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: quiet day In-Reply-To: <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> References: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 174, in=61744, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/25/2005, 6:12 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Is NM> that because it's safer to be closer to emergency-landing places, or is NM> it because of winds and stuff, or some other reason, or just an oddity NM> of flights I've happened to notice it on? It is because that is the great circle route from most places in the US to most in Europe. That straight route from Chicago, say, to Frankfurt, has you over land most of the way. Of course back in the olden days, before Lindbergh showed you could do it in one straight shot, they did that hopping from patch of land to patch of land. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:29:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDTDWm003332 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006018DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:22:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:22:02 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDM1Pw004920 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:22:01 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17365496 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:36:20 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:22:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:22:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <899580043.20050425072201@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No breathing yet In-Reply-To: <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 178, in=60029, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/25/2005, 5:36 AM, Rita Leonard wrote: RL> Take a look at our plaza today. >> http://www.bc.edu/publications/atbc/webcams/oneill/ RL> None of that stuff out there is breathing as far as I know. I checked RL> it thoroughly on my way in just now. Does any of it look like what you RL> saw before? Huh? I see people walking along the walks, across the plaza, up the steps, etc. They appear to be alive. Are they apparitions? Fairly decent computer graphics? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:29:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDTDWn003326 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:29:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060184C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:26:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:26:59 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDQwXu006157 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:26:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.213.181]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425132220.OEOD1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:22:20 -0400 Message-ID: <426CEF04.8030507@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:22:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No breathing yet References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> <426CDF74.2000706@maynor.net> <426CE60D.2060601@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <426CE60D.2060601@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >> Not really, but I'm wondering about that pile of box-like things on the >> left. Possibly one of them sitting alone could start breathing. > > They are cement blocks. Breathing is unlikely. I had a feeling they weren't breathing boxes. Oh how I wish I had a picture of that breathing box of yore. >> too fast for that circle street around the building. > > Yes, that happens a lot. It is especially fun when somebody does it > going the wrong way around. Every time I look at that scene, it reminds me of the geography of my office building at MSU. Even though the buildings themselves are quite different (the ones at BC are much prettier), the arrangement of the three buildings is right, plus the circle drive -- except that the circle drive at MSU was closed several years ago and turned into just walking space -- as in bricked over, with flora tastefully planted, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:34:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDY5Wm004040 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:34:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:34:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00601925@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:34:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:34:04 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDY4RL007757 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:34:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17467438 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:42:34 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:34:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:34:00 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <727071755.20050425073400@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Not quite in Maine, but....close MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 178, in=72041, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.seacoastonline.com/2004news/04112004/news/10088.htm Says this isn't the first, but is first I've heard of. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:35:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDYtWm004134 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:34:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:34:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060192D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:34:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:34:55 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDYscr007970 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:34:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17366643 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:49:14 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:35:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:34:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <36572282.20050425073455@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: No breathing yet In-Reply-To: <426CEFC5.2010007@bc.edu> References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> <899580043.20050425072201@gailndan.com> <426CEFC5.2010007@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 178, in=60035, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/25/2005, 7:25 AM, Rita Leonard wrote: RL> Generally, I do not refer to people as "stuff". Regardless, the human RL> "stuff" was not present earlier today when I first posted. Classes have RL> begun for the day; the students (mostly) are now awake and moving RL> about. Lots of breathing going on; but not by boxes. So the boxes have been moved, or am I just missing the boxes. I do see a kiosk/notice board kind of thing, but nothing else that might fit the description of boxes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:37:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDbUWm004434 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:37:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:37:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00601783@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:37:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:37:27 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3PDbP94008386 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:37:26 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042515354916510 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:35:49 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:37:24 +0200 Message-ID: <426CF294.1050701@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:37:24 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quiet day References: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> <148929705.20050425072528@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <148929705.20050425072528@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2005 13:37:24.0964 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA4D9A40:01C5499B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester skrev 25.04.2005 15:25: >4/25/2005, 6:12 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> Is >NM> that because it's safer to be closer to emergency-landing places, or is >NM> it because of winds and stuff, or some other reason, or just an oddity >NM> of flights I've happened to notice it on? > >It is because that is the great circle route from most places in the >US to most in Europe. That straight route from Chicago, say, to >Frankfurt, has you over land most of the way. > >Of course back in the olden days, before Lindbergh showed you could do >it in one straight shot, they did that hopping from patch of land to >patch of land. > > > When we flew to the US in 1955 we went from Oslo, Reykjavik, Gander, New York. The Reykjavik stop may have been because we flew with Icelandic, but I believe that Scandinavian also had a break in Reykjavik at that time. The flight took 25 hour or so, my father and my younger brother were airsick most of the time, I was just big enough to run away whenever I had a chance. It did nothing to help the relationship between my mother and my uncle (who travelled with us - he and his wife already lived in New Haven) when my uncle expected that my mother and my aunt should cook a dinner for everyone when we finally came to New Haven. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:39:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDdBWm004744 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:39:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:39:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060178D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:39:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:39:11 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDd4Z6008757 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:39:04 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 90596826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:39:03 -0400 Message-ID: <426CF2F7.5080404@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:39:03 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No breathing yet References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> <899580043.20050425072201@gailndan.com> <426CEFC5.2010007@bc.edu> <36572282.20050425073455@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <36572282.20050425073455@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@listserv.uga.edu Dan Lester wrote: >So the boxes have been moved, or am I just missing the boxes. I do >see a kiosk/notice board kind of thing, but nothing else that might >fit the description of boxes. > > The "boxes" are cement blocks and there is a pile of them to the left of and a little below the kiosk. The plaza is being set up for an Arts Festival at the end of the week. I suspect that the blocks are to be used to tie down the various tents that will be erected. In past years they have used water-filled barrels. It will be interesting to see first, if I am correct in my assumption and second, if the blocks work better. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 08:54:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PDsDWm006342 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:54:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:54:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006017FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 9:54:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:54:13 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PDsDFg011122 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:54:13 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:54:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:54:04 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Laurel and Hardy write the news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It was me I am sorry I'm a horrible person BrP >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/25/2005 9:19:26 AM >>> ESO> I that this was Abbott and Costello, not Laurel and Hardy. You are correct. Not sure who mis-attributed it, but know it wasn't me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 09:10:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PEAeWm008439 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:10:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00601A6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:10:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:10:39 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PEAcA2014547 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:10:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17632250 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:36:02 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:10:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:10:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <743663075.20050425081037@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Laurel and Hardy write the news In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 174, in=61782, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/25/2005, 7:54 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> It was me PB> I am sorry PB> I'm a horrible person Nope. You're a wonderful person. I've made three mistakes in my life...but did get divorced after each one. There might have been some other mistakes too, but since memory is the second thing to go in old age.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 09:17:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PEHhWm009326 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:17:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F27824@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:17:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:17:42 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PEHgRj015643 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:17:42 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:17:42 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:17:07 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Not quite in Maine, but....close Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Where is the outrage from the "Defense of Marriage" people over things like this? BrP >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/25/2005 9:34:00 AM >>> http://www.seacoastonline.com/2004news/04112004/news/10088.htm Says this isn't the first, but is first I've heard of. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 09:20:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PEK7Wm009556 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:20:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:20:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00601A21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:20:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:20:07 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PEK6gG016139 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:20:07 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-23.gwi.net [216.195.167.23]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3PEK10o030265; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:20:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050425095841.01c12330@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:59:32 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Not quite in Maine, but....close In-Reply-To: <727071755.20050425073400@gailndan.com> References: <727071755.20050425073400@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:34 AM 4/25/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >http://www.seacoastonline.com/2004news/04112004/news/10088.htm > >Says this isn't the first, but is first I've heard of. This will probably start a new round of New Hampshire jokes. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 09:20:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PEKOWm009584 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:20:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:20:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00601AD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:20:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:20:23 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PEKMR9016199 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:20:23 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17633384 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:45:47 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:20:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:20:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <131294884.20050425082022@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Not quite in Maine, but....close In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 174, in=61787, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/25/2005, 8:17 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> Where is the outrage from the "Defense of Marriage" people over things PB> like this? I don't know. Do those folks care about WHERE people get married? Or is it that it wasn't done by a clergyperson? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 09:30:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PETvWm010550 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:30:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:30:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00601A52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:29:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:29:57 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PETu56017992 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:29:56 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so1065645rne for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.75.59 with SMTP id x59mr6496380rna; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.51 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:29:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jy51BR+t+G7mwDHUg93CIlG01aqwX1CFqayaVIVHpz/iC3jsKAQvutDg1gVmvX4TKfCUM7HpWiWTjUEzLrY+oR8w20RtT9YOieA6DoJURtemuZ/FIsMCRkk3LRWP8C+ROrW7t9UTRze/Zc2JVyVcBCxV+IBXBJ+jsruQblTaTt4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:29:56 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quiet day In-Reply-To: <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3PETu56017993 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 4/25/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > One thing that has interested me in watching the little airplane on the > screens on long flights is how little time most flights are actually > over open oceans -- how so often they go up and up and then make their > way out over stepping stones of land to get to the other side of the > ocean, leaving relatively short stretches of just water under them. Is > that because it's safer to be closer to emergency-landing places, or is > it because of winds and stuff, or some other reason, or just an oddity > of flights I've happened to notice it on? When they started using twin-engine planes (notably the 767) on transatlantic flights, the rules for distance to land (or maybe distance to an airport) were much more strict than those for three and four engine planes. So the routes on which 767s were used, which were initially between smaller cities in North America and the traditional European cities, took quite a bit longer because of routing and the somewhat slower speed of the smaller aircraft. I understand that as engines have proven their reliability, the rules have got more lax. But I think there're still transatlantic routes that smaller planes can't use that 747s can. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 13:23:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PINEWm007919 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:23:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:23:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00602097@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:23:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:23:14 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PINDhJ024255 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:23:13 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3PINC7S007642 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:23:13 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3PIKpiY014320 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:20:52 -0400 Message-ID: <019e01c549c3$837ffa60$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: It depends who is blogging... Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:20:50 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ... but to Huff, or not to Huff. That is the phatic drivel. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/25/technology/25arianna.html?ei=5090&en=e72a67e484c2bc94&ex=1272081600&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print&position= From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 14:51:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PJpCWm018683 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:51:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:51:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F285D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:51:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 95508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:51:12 -0400 Received: from mxfep04.bredband.com (mxfep04.bredband.com [195.54.107.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PJoKuP008500 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:50:21 -0400 Received: from mxfep04 ([195.54.107.79] [195.54.107.79]) by mxfep04.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:50:19 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: CC: , Subject: thoughts while washing windows Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:50:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Today I was washing windows in my home in Stockholm. It was a nice day and not too cold. We live on the fourth floor and have a sort-of view of a park. This area of Stockholm is relatively new, built in the late 80's. The city planners were not thinking very much when they planned it, though. The park has become a major throughway. I don't mind. I like watching the people go by and seeing all the dogs. It gives me energy! I was musing about how blue the sky was and how the breeze felt good on my face the few times it blew in. The air really smelled nice, too. I have forgotten to mention to ya'll that Dan and I are taking a business trip to Taiwan via Bangkok and we leave on Friday. I wondered as I washed some serious grime away if I would like these places and if I can manage to get some clothes tailor-made in Bangkok. A friend of mine and Torkel, kindly printed out in Chinese a sentence that says I'm a vegetarian and that I don't eat fish. Dan's experience is that not many people speak English in Taiwan. I wondered what kind of good food I'll be served. I have looked up some vegetarian restaurants on the net, just in case! I wondered what I would make for dinner. Dan and I ate big lunches so we weren't so hungry. I ended up frying up some haloumi and served it with sliced tomatoes, green onion and yellow bell pepper, splashed with balsamic vinegar, salt and pepper. A baguette topped it off. I even started to wonder about my 15th class reunion, which is over a year a way. Will I go or not? Hmmmm..... Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 15:13:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PKDBWm021745 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:13:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:13:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006023FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:13:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 96873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:13:07 -0400 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3PKD73t012442 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:13:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 58977 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Apr 2005 20:13:00 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:12:59 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 15:28:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PKS9Wm024118 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:28:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:28:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00602390@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:21:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 98075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:21:21 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PKLK1n014805 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:21:20 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:21:20 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:21:15 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Gone... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There were lots of great performances, but the one that always sticks out in my mind is the village idiot he played in Ryan's Daughter BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 4/25/2005 4:12:59 PM >>> John Mills, at age 97 - bless him. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 15:28:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PKS9Wm024120 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:28:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:28:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00602379@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:18:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 97697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:18:08 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PKI8PM013904 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:18:08 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 88819074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:18:07 -0400 Message-ID: <426D507D.3080302@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:18:05 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Back ... References: <20050425201300.58975.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050425201300.58975.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber ! Hey, Lynne! How are you? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 15:32:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PKWLWm024635 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:32:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:32:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006022C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:32:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 98184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:32:20 -0400 Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PKMIAn015020 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:22:18 -0400 Received: from blueyonder.co.uk ([82.44.219.80]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:22:51 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:23:50 +0100 Subject: Re: an intriguing invitation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2005 20:22:51.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E0D2E10:01C549D4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Try searching for the other London airports. LHR = Heathrow LGW = Gatwick LCY = London City (via Paris, Dublin or Amsterdam) STN = Stansted You could also try from Toronto, there are cheap operators from there like Zoom Roy On Monday, Apr 25, 2005, at 13:19 Europe/London, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I got email from my new-found cousin in London. She has invited me for > the weekend of July 9-11 for her parents' anniversary. I'm seriously > considering it. I did a quick check of prices for SYR-LHR and found > that it would be about $700-900 round trip. Anyone have any good ideas > about cheaper flights? > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 15:36:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PKZsWm024989 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:35:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:35:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006022E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:35:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:35:54 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PKZqdo018055 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:35:52 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F287F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:35:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200504252035.j3PKZqdo018055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:35:52 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:14:55 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >True. It's just that some things seem more non-sequiturish than >others. But then sequiting is perhaps in the eyes of the sequiturer. >And where is Verdant? She's been quiet for too long. I'm here and fine. Just back from almost a week out of town -- first helping my friend Paula settle into the new condo she and her husband Andrew just bought in Freeport, Bahamas, then doing a speaking gig in Charlotte, NC. Generally a lovely trip but I'm kind of wiped out. Not too much hot news. Edward is spending more and more time here and we're beginning to consider giving up his place in the city, looking instead for somewhere where he can rent occasional crash space and a telephone line for those times when it's most convenient for one or both of us to stay over in SF. He's enjoying being a housewife and I'm enjoying having one. I'm blogging these days, a bit sporadically but I try to put up at least something every day (with mixed success). If you want to look, it's at www.g-blog.net/users/toughswitch . If any of you watched "Joan of Arcadia" Friday night, Miles was one of the two evil clowns who threw the water balloons full of paint at the cross. He also showed up for about two seconds in "Deadwood" last night (I had to slo-mo it on Tivo to see him), but I gather he'll be a bit more visible in coming episodes. No lines, though, just an extra for now, but it seems like he's making good progress. I think he's also an airplane passenger in the new Wes Craven movie that's about to open, but I'll leave it to those who have more tolerance than I for horror flicks to go see that one. Looking forward to seeing whoever's here for Betty's thing next month. Are there still plans for Friday night? Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 18:12:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PNCaWm013580 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:12:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:12:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006027E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:02:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:02:36 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PMqZYZ007649 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:52:35 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3PMqCWb008960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:52:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:52:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: UK airports Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I like to fly in to Manchester - and the rates might be lower. Rail Times from Manchester London 2 hrs 40 mins Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 18:19:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PNJ8Wm014151 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:19:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:19:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00602763@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:19:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:19:08 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PNJ7rW011107 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:19:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425231907.MMLC2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:19:07 -0400 Message-ID: <426D7ADB.6050905@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:18:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quiet day References: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> <148929705.20050425072528@gailndan.com> <426CF294.1050701@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <426CF294.1050701@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > lived in New Haven) when my uncle expected that my mother and my aunt > should cook a dinner for everyone when we finally came to New Haven. So did they merrily set in to cooking after the 25 hours of flying? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 18:28:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PNScWm015005 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:28:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:28:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00602774@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:28:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:28:38 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PNSbg6012186 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:28:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425232837.MSMP2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:28:37 -0400 Message-ID: <426D7D20.1080603@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:28:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: thoughts while washing windows References: <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> In-Reply-To: <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >Today I was washing windows in my home in Stockholm. > Please come to Jackson at the earliest chance. Even now that I've got these fancy flip-in-to-clean (or however you say it) windows, I just never do seem to get around to washing them. There's a big splat of something that looks like bird doo-doo on one, and all of them could use attention. >it, though. The park has become a major throughway. I don't mind. I like >watching the people go by and seeing all the dogs. It gives me energy! > > I know that feeling -- the energy that comes from being in a city and watching the . It turns me on big-time. >as I washed some serious grime away if I would like these places and if >I can manage to get some clothes tailor-made in Bangkok. A friend of > > I've got several different friends who have had clothes made in Bangkok repeatedly -- as in they've found particular tailors that they keep going back and back to. I'll send them e-mail right now and see if they have suggestions. I don't know anything about how the tailoring situation is in Bangkok, but I do know that most things there require bargaining skills and that Thai strangers will walk up to tourists to them by taking them to certain jewelers/tailors/etc -- for a commission that the tourist doesn't see awarded. I don't know, of course, that these places the lure tourists to are in any way inferior to other places. I bought a ring at one such place and didn't care that I was led there by the suited man. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 18:42:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PNg9Wm016474 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:42:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:42:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060284D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:42:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:42:09 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PNg9L8013940 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:42:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425234209.NBBM2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:42:09 -0400 Message-ID: <426D804C.807@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:42:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gone... References: <20050425201300.58975.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050425201300.58975.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hey, Lynne -- Spencer potted himself today in the OTHER big pot. I am mightily po'ed at him. I had put a barricade up to keep him from getting into the one that he'd been getting into. I assumed that he couldn't get into the other one because of where it was -- that he could get into the one on the lower step but not into the one higher. Ha. Although I didn't see him actually potted in it, the evidence was conclusive: the beautiful whatevers that I had planted were smushed flatter than a pancake. He also dug up some caladiums in another pot. Not having time today to go to Wmart in search of more wire barricades, I found sticks and poked them around in both of those pots. Surely he will not dive onto the sticks. (But he has apparently left the tomatoes alone. They seem fine.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 18:49:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PNniWm017839 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:49:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:49:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F28DDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:49:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:49:33 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PNnW2N014995 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:49:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425234932.NFUN2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:49:32 -0400 Message-ID: <426D8207.6070701@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:49:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504252035.j3PKZqdo018055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504252035.j3PKZqdo018055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: >I'm here and fine. Just back from almost a week out of town -- first helping >my friend Paula settle into the new condo she and her husband Andrew just >bought in Freeport, Bahamas, then doing a speaking gig in Charlotte, NC. > > Not a bad place to go to help somebody with a move! >If any of you watched "Joan of Arcadia" Friday night, Miles was one of the >two evil clowns who threw the water balloons full of paint at the cross. He >also showed up for about two seconds in "Deadwood" last night (I had to > > I've never watched either of them but would have done so if I'd known I might see him. >Looking forward to seeing whoever's here for Betty's thing next month. Are >there still plans for Friday night? > > Were there ever plans? What were they? I'm for them, especially if they're in -- the closer to Union Square the better. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 18:53:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3PNrjWm018264 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:53:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:53:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006027CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:53:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:53:45 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3PNrim0015714 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:53:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050425235344.NIPT2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:53:44 -0400 Message-ID: <426D8303.9030409@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:53:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Bangkok Tailors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That was fast! By the time I got through with Words-L mail (which I interrupted long enough to send my tailor inquiry to some friends) and looked at new other mail, I had a reply from one of the people I just sent e-mail to: >Natalie, >I found my tailor in 1997 by chance and have been having shirts and pants >made by him ever since, with great satisfaction. His nom de chemise is >Paul, and his shop is just called Paul's or Paul's of Bangkok. It's in the >River City Mall (which is next door to the Sheraton Royal Orchid right on >the river. It's on the second floor. Take the escalator near the main >entrance, go up, and make a sharp right, almost a U-turn. You see a jade >shop and another jewelry shop and I think the next one is Paul's. >Richard > >PS He (and all Bangkok tailors) measures customers for custom fittings but >will also make replicas of your favorite old items from home--things that >fit perfectly but are getting worn out. > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:13:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0D1Wm020332 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:13:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:13:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006027EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:03:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:03:01 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q02ptb016825 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:02:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F28DCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:02:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200504260002.j3Q02ptb016825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:02:51 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:49:27 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Janet Hardy wrote: > >>I'm here and fine. Just back from almost a week out of town -- first helping >>my friend Paula settle into the new condo she and her husband Andrew just >>bought in Freeport, Bahamas, then doing a speaking gig in Charlotte, NC. >> >> >Not a bad place to go to help somebody with a move! Dunno. It seemed pretty much like Florida to me, except tourist-ier. Maybe once they settle in and know where the non-tourist places are I'll get a better idea of it. The beaches are great, though. >>If any of you watched "Joan of Arcadia" Friday night, Miles was one of the >>two evil clowns who threw the water balloons full of paint at the cross. He >>also showed up for about two seconds in "Deadwood" last night (I had to >> >> >I've never watched either of them but would have done so if I'd known I >might see him. Well, he worked as an extra on all the shows this season after last night's, so there will be other opportunities. But as I recall, you don't get HBO -- or do I have that wrong? If you do, they'll be rerunning it several times this week, HBO-style -- watch for the guy in the derby hat behind the naked miner who's running down the hill. Don't blink. >>Looking forward to seeing whoever's here for Betty's thing next month. Are >>there still plans for Friday night? >> >> >Were there ever plans? What were they? I'm for them, especially if >they're in -- the closer to Union Square the better. I don't know exactly what's up. Betty sent me some sort of email, and I have a question mark down for that night. There are plenty of nice places near Union Square for drinks or dinner; after last time, I'm hesitant to suggest any food places there simply because downtown restaurants tend to be pricey (unless you want a funky little ethnic joint, of which there are certainly plenty). Or we could just go buy overpriced drinks in one of the downtown hotels and figure we're paying for the vibe. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:13:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0D1Wn020332 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:13:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:13:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006026E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:05:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:05:59 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q05xjO017266 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:05:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426000559.NQHR2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:05:59 -0400 Message-ID: <426D85E2.1060800@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:05:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Webcams Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Looking again for the breathing box prompted me to look at the MSU campus (via the extremely wimpy webcam in the IE Dept -- I think I told the story before about the alum who gave it, the skittish MSU lawyer, etc). I would say that the window it's looking through has some extreme glare problems right now: http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:13:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0D1Wm020333 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:13:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:13:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060289C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:03:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 112810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:03:37 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q03aoM016927 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:03:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426000336.NOSK2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:03:36 -0400 Message-ID: <426D8553.9030206@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:03:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No breathing yet References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <426CD643.8000707@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I let a good bit of time go by today without checking for breathing boxes, but I just checked again and saw nothing at all like the breathing box of yore. This is sooo frustrating. I wish you had seen it! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:15:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0FXWm020574 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:15:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:15:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060281A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:15:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:15:32 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0FWbx018578 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:15:32 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 63E625CBCC6A3 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:15:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: NPR Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:15:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3Q0FXWm020574 Do you ever hear some of the personal essays read on NPR in their series "This I Believe"? Well, at their invitation (on their web site) I wrote one and just now sent it in. It's unlikely it will be chosen, but if it is I will be given the opportunity to read it myself on air (on tape). Now wouldn't that be a words-l moment? I wonder if I would ever be able to quit clearing my throat long enough to read it. All this because I woke up early this a.m. and lay there, half asleep, listening to NPR and I heard another one of these essays and I thought "I can do that." Well, of course, anyone can. But that doesn't mean it will make sense to anyone. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:17:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0HjWm020803 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:17:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:17:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00602821@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:17:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:17:39 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0Hc5h018838 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:17:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426001738.FBLV2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:17:38 -0400 Message-ID: <426D889D.70002@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:17:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504260002.j3Q02ptb016825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504260002.j3Q02ptb016825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: >Dunno. It seemed pretty much like Florida to me, except tourist-ier. Maybe >once they settle in and know where the non-tourist places are I'll get a >better idea of it. The beaches are great, though. > > I was mainly thinking about the beaches and water. As for Freeport overall, I have no knowledge or opinion. I'm sure I've mentioned before all the flying around I did in small planes when I was living in Florida because all of my engineer friends owned parts of airplanes (plus one who was a real airplane nut and owned a couple of whole airplanes himself, including a WWI plane that you had to wear earphones in). One of our regular jaunts if we got up on a Saturday morning without other plans was to go over to Freeport since it was the closest part of the Bahamas to go to. We'd mainly enjoy looking at the pretty water. I do remember one time when we were poking around somewhere in a rustic setting in Freeport -- as in a bunch of greenery -- and a couple appeared from the bushes and turned out to be people I knew from Jackson -- the parents of one of my friends. That was funny. >Well, he worked as an extra on all the shows this season after last night's, >so there will be other opportunities. But as I recall, you don't get HBO -- > > You're right. I don't get HBO. But I do get whatever "Joan of Arcadia" is on because I've seen it advertised. I'm thinking it must be CBS since Survivor is the only thing I watch regularly and I know I've seen Joan mentioned in network blurbs pretty often. >I don't know exactly what's up. Betty sent me some sort of email, and I have >a question mark down for that night. There are plenty of nice places near > > I would guess that Betty will be consumed with party preparations at that point. >Union Square for drinks or dinner; after last time, I'm hesitant to suggest >any food places there simply because downtown restaurants tend to be pricey >(unless you want a funky little ethnic joint, of which there are certainly >plenty). Or we could just go buy overpriced drinks in one of the downtown >hotels and figure we're paying for the vibe. > > The idea of funky little ethnic joints sounds good to me. But I'm for anything. Mules and I are meeting Thursday night in an place since it's a high building and is in memory of the Empire State Building. Then I'm going to wander on Friday. And I'm loose for Friday night. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:28:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0RvWm021770 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:27:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:28:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006028DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:20:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:20:30 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0KUMf019287 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:20:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426002030.FDJQ2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:20:30 -0400 Message-ID: <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:20:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >All this because I woke up early this a.m. and >lay there, half asleep, listening to NPR and I >heard another one of these essays and I thought >"I can do that." Well, of course, anyone can. >But that doesn't mean it will make sense to >anyone. > > I love it! I want to hear you on NPR! I've somehow missed "I Believe." If you're on, I will for sure figure out what time it's on here. It's obviously not in any of my usual driving times or I would've heard it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:28:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0RvWm021767 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:27:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:28:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00602824@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:17:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:17:56 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0Ht67018927 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:17:55 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1739575wri for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.5 with SMTP id f5mr1609642wrb; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:17:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YrKiwcG2dytgPPnXvn2lvvqbnPBP9NxNuUcjUO/yLMK7FyVjr3qAWA5ADjQTFJ7PZ8klEu5gC/e/RXjgbGd22rD27QHBKcDBZ6XSjCI4iEUpYPO15CBhCQ742LnZVv1EQ/CSwoDV14ZmZfjKhChwqK/c0+WIvI7D87b+vhyp5XQ= Message-ID: <83db447a05042517176d3f7b3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:17:54 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: thoughts while washing windows In-Reply-To: <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3Q0RvWm021767 On 4/25/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > > I even started to wonder about my 15th class reunion, which is over > a year a way. Will I go or not? Hmmmm..... If all goes well, I will be attending my 50th this July. Stay tuned... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:28:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0SNWm021838 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:28:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:28:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006028EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:28:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 114009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:28:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0SMF5020154 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:28:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2449515nzp for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.6 with SMTP id g6mr416405nzg; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:28:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TpifMH234s74VTioAna1hQSnXJDRiuLrBTdgGchablkTmLFi9xkC/sEcuTuc7BymWnJyauhyShZS7TYYHTpa5di6JmpNVclCWL7i99Pn99jZBk/2ypFzy+o0fyOZ19sOC35p6lwsOR/XSNFvHpB3qJfkEo4OhQi875JdYgnpu5k= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050425172838eecdb3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:28:22 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR In-Reply-To: <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3Q0SNWm021838 On 4/25/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I love it! I want to hear you on NPR! I've somehow missed "I > Believe." > "This I Believe". I don't know when it's on;I usually hear them in the morning. I like better the Austin Moments (that's not what they are called) they play--those are often funny. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:31:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0VeWm022177 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:31:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:31:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006028FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:31:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 114207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:31:39 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0Vduq020522 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:31:39 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1742731wri for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.51 with SMTP id 51mr2284540wrw; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:31:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m0Bb8tviL/iFezXeGoorPL7ZHU4Yc2jxwGLRJN3FKHMO0H/W9ZPTat4q4+Vlkr6oW0PiGvsHh2gJt7e9hMUE7OOkK5SxREi7a/BjXCw2bVb2kltHa/lA23FTH4+4Ydee5OQZbgFjsI4x+NRLA3DvnUaGbGA0xxBIWVvHVq93+w0= Message-ID: <83db447a050425173164f17bf4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:31:37 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR In-Reply-To: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3Q0VeWm022177 On 4/25/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > I wonder if I would ever be able to quit > clearing my throat long enough to read > it. The more-or-less constant throat-clearing is a fairly widespread habit among university professors---so much so that there is a name for it; academic catarrh. Those types used to drive me crazy. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:32:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0WRWm022284 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:32:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:32:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00602742@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 114233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0WQdd020623 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426003226.OJWH2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:32:26 -0400 Message-ID: <426D8C15.6090002@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:32:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is "I Believe" on every day? I just looked at a schedule of MPB for a random day and didn't see it: http://www.etv.state.ms.us/radio/radio_schedules/0503/050328.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:33:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0XlWm022498 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:33:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:33:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F28E79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:23:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:23:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0Nk7q019637 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:23:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2447922nzp for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr553448nzb; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:23:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jxZHg57wXZIFFmk7HgtU9VgICJdJeUysIxq7mzdQG6o0gS48zrwg66aRoKAo8rkcKQ9V4Hu+M7juE8zvAZuANrAXWn4k9RCAn5e7RhZXzTDqT29Ahza4zX8sAlVnkdE5vQQShFdFkn39fB9r5z3lneKj+BJa8KR9XwKqoYvoMQA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042517232179fedd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:23:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <200504260002.j3Q02ptb016825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504260002.j3Q02ptb016825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3Q0XlWm022498 On 4/25/05, Janet Hardy wrote: > > There are plenty of nice places near > Union Square for drinks or dinner; after last time, I'm hesitant to > suggest > any food places there simply because downtown restaurants tend to be > pricey > (unless you want a funky little ethnic joint, of which there are certainly > plenty). Actually, if Kuleto's is still there, it's nearly on Union Square--on the way from the Bart station to Union Square. I thought the food and ambience were good, and that it was reasonably priced. But this was...well. When I was living in Missouri. So approximately 15 million years ago. Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:33:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0XlWm022500 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:33:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:33:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F28E8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:26:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:26:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0QgOh019966 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:26:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so761720nzp for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr551107nzc; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:26:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GYt2TUaXoiEQCRbDajarpkpqxc2dfTsZPljv6hAKfsu/6tUK7ABN/BtMDLQzgb3IiynaBLBnvtYyjcoSUbHcSfYjW8mVy8HXzY4Wr5hQnSlm+75/fWmROaT0MPl6f2+o59ORxXe7MNHHNfH0s/TXtHwuwdnOYZFSrD2zZgBGXnA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042517262e2cec54@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:26:42 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR In-Reply-To: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3Q0XlWm022500 On 4/25/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Do you ever hear some of the personal essays > read on NPR in their series "This I Believe"? Sure. I wonder if I would ever be able to quit clearing my throat long enough to read > it. They have people to edit the tape. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:45:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0jEWm023642 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:45:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:45:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00602760@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:35:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 114523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:35:13 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0ZC3M020969 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:35:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426003512.OLUB2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:35:12 -0400 Message-ID: <426D8CBC.2040208@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:35:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050425172838eecdb3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050425172838eecdb3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >"This I Believe". > > I can't find that either. Maybe we don't get it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:45:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0jEWn023642 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:45:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:45:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060286D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:36:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 114563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:36:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0atLf021110 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:36:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2452552nzp for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.91.2 with SMTP id o2mr467309nzb; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:36:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tf7C2bgBqPDRRYUrjQ7tZXScmxEt9SwSIQQtGlGeNDZPFaz0k6Ppgt9aYnQGsdCVG5d6EYaj9joA0bLxqprq1Rkx1AwBeFNX3po3U9OauPklLRWI5MzkAh/s2QjUkeyszHaR25TQckPUtSRC5cYBAaAz/QH+jyk8sthbUkEIG1o= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050425173653523f1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:36:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR In-Reply-To: <426D8C15.6090002@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> <426D8C15.6090002@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3Q0jEWn023642 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4538138 On 4/25/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Is "I Believe" on every day? I just looked at a schedule of MPB for a > random day and didn't see it: > > http://www.etv.state.ms.us/radio/radio_schedules/0503/050328.htm > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:53:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0roWm024490 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:53:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:53:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006028B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:53:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 115438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:53:50 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0roNa023057 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:53:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426005350.MAEE2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:53:50 -0400 Message-ID: <426D9119.9080208@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:53:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: More re the Bangkok Tailor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is a ps from the person whose mail I already forwarded (with his permission, btw): >I forgot to mention, just to give you an idea of price, >a pinpoint cotton dress shirt is about $25. Those silk shirts he made me >are a little more because of the material. Some tailors, I'm sure, are even >cheaper (Mr. Paul is in a very posh mall), but he is extremely reliable. >Richard > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:55:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0toWm024673 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:55:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:55:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006028B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:55:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 115490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:55:50 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0toO2023403 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:55:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426005550.MBZJ2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:55:50 -0400 Message-ID: <426D9191.9050108@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:55:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> <426D8C15.6090002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050425173653523f1e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050425173653523f1e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4538138 > > Thanks. But I couldn't find a listing of when/where it's aired. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:59:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0xFWm025007 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:59:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:59:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006027C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:59:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 115712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:59:15 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0xF9K024090 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:59:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426005915.MEYE2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:59:15 -0400 Message-ID: <426D925D.3040303@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:59:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> <426D8C15.6090002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050425173653523f1e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050425173653523f1e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of radio stations, I've been doing a bit of flipping in my car lately because I've discovered a serious rival to MPB -- the radio station at Jackson State (which overlaps some with MBP in programs included but is mainly really good jazz): http://www.jsums.edu/~edlga/wjsu/welcome.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 19:59:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q0xQWm025023 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:59:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:59:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060297E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:59:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 115720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:59:26 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q0xPiM024109 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:59:26 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F005B2578CCF8 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:59:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001a01c549fb$24d03150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> <426D8C15.6090002@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: NPR Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:59:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: Re: NPR > Is "I Believe" on every day? I just looked at a schedule of MPB for a > random day and didn't see it: > > http://www.etv.state.ms.us/radio/radio_schedules/0503/050328.htm > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I don't know. As far as I know it only comes on when Doris M is driving her car or lying in bed. This of course takes careful planning on their part. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 20:11:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q1BZWm026760 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:11:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:11:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006027D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:01:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 115915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:01:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q11X9X024395 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:01:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so769939nzp for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.13 with SMTP id j13mr554628nzj; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:01:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dB/12kYfr+v4U8ZjsU/r3WZLXGaFOEotfhrhzp8AmP2X3RvamgSrWebYlqYulr0htihHK9Xb7H+gbZifT/95qDdsxLsSIrUoTf0OJiL+eMdQPBwj0oqqHrypxRMdLdgllXai2Wnr638uF9TfXjOGWn/VgVIOlb0HYcgvPvqA3RE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050425180165580818@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:01:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR In-Reply-To: <426D9191.9050108@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> <426D8C15.6090002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050425173653523f1e@mail.gmail.com> <426D9191.9050108@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3Q1BZWm026760 During Morning Edition and All Things Considered. On 4/25/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4538138 > > > > > Thanks. But I couldn't find a listing of when/where it's aired. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 20:11:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q1BZWm026761 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:11:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:11:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006029A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:06:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 116069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:06:01 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q161Ua024786 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:06:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426010600.MKAH2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:06:00 -0400 Message-ID: <426D93F4.6070002@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:05:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> <426D8C15.6090002@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050425173653523f1e@mail.gmail.com> <426D9191.9050108@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050425180165580818@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050425180165580818@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >During Morning Edition and All Things Considered. > > This makes me very surprised that I haven't heard it (or at least don't remember if I have) since I've listened to both of those programs many times, though not as often now as in the old days. Since retirement I'm rarely in my car when "Morning Edition" is on (though I often drink coffee out of my "Morning Edition" mug). Ditto "All Things Considered," though I am sometimes in my car at that time of day (also "Morning Edition" on days I'm doing something like driving to Starkville). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 20:12:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q1CVWm026893 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:12:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:12:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F28F3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:02:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 115936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:02:30 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q12U3a024463 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:02:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426010229.MHKV2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:02:29 -0400 Message-ID: <426D9320.2060707@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:02:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NPR References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <426D8949.6050501@maynor.net> <426D8C15.6090002@maynor.net> <001a01c549fb$24d03150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <001a01c549fb$24d03150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I don't know. As far as I know it only comes > on when Doris M is driving her car or lying > in bed. This of course takes careful planning > on their part. Hmm. This makes me even more curious about their planning. I find that lying in my bed and driving my car occur at very different times. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 20:18:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q1IgWm027607 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:18:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:18:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060291B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:18:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 116626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:18:41 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q1IeqO026292 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:18:40 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F28FC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:18:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:18:40 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:23:46 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 4/25/05, Janet Hardy wrote: >> >> There are plenty of nice places near >> Union Square for drinks or dinner; after last time, I'm hesitant to >> suggest >> any food places there simply because downtown restaurants tend to be >> pricey >> (unless you want a funky little ethnic joint, of which there are certainly >> plenty). > > >Actually, if Kuleto's is still there, it's nearly on Union Square--on the >way from the Bart station to Union Square. I thought the food and ambience >were good, and that it was reasonably priced. But this was...well. When I >was living in Missouri. So approximately 15 million years ago. Still there. Their website shows entrees from $13.50-$22 or so, which seems reasonable for good food, but is still a bit more than I'd suggest for a mixed crowd unless I felt sure that everybody was OK with spending that kind of money. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 20:32:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q1WTWm028992 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:32:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:32:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006029F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:32:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:32:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q1WSM1027859 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:32:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2469027nzp for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr556167nzb; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:32:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YV1YusAAmwG5808F+0c57N7qpUws+XQlSeZzsvhR4U80ttQN7w89NUYGoVBlERd0j/7pcDqN0RKuniFhrcDsgKg1QUGBlNJcdYmHDnh9pCCYhoa1BOpXZE4ZEyPMzHZ3ezh1dWaOnb61QB29pJNZoyWm0a6xsyxgZAy9z3CaVms= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:32:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3Q1WTWm028992 On 4/25/05, Janet Hardy wrote: > > Still there. Their website shows entrees from $13.50-$22 or so, which > seems > reasonable for good food, but is still a bit more than I'd suggest for a > mixed crowd unless I felt sure that everybody was OK with spending that > kind > of money. > There's also a... um. Sandwich place. Off of Union Sq. I can't remember the street, though. I went there with my friend Luc one day, and we were amused to discover that this very average-looking sandwich shop put cloth tablecloths on the tables for dinner. But I really don't remember the name. We'd gone to one of the antique booksellers in that area and found this place by accident. Not much help, I'm afraid. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 20:41:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q1euWm029726 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:40:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:41:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00602A24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:40:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:40:56 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q1euRr028779 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:40:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426014056.VCEK2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:40:56 -0400 Message-ID: <426D9C23.3080705@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:40:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: San Francisco [was Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April!] References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As one who knows pretty much zero about the SF area and where Wordslers in the area may be, I should add that I don't mean to sound in my recommendation of the Union Square vicinity. It's just that that's where I will be and thus would find that locale convenient. But if other locales are more convenient or desirable for others, just say so. And I can get there as long as y'all give me clear BART or whatever instructions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 20:47:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q1kwWm030222 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:46:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:47:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00602A36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:46:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:46:58 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q1khpA029450 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:46:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F29055@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:46:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200504260146.j3Q1khpA029450@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:46:43 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: San Francisco [was Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April!] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Correction (thanks, Betty): my blog is actually at http://g-blog.net/user/toughswitch . Sorry, Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 20:52:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q1q9Wm030899 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:52:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:52:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060288F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:52:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:52:05 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q1g3Lv028908 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:42:03 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3Q1ffWd023812 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:41:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:42:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: radio Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: "Since retirement I'm rarely in my car when "Morning Edition" is on .... Ditto "All Things Considered," though I am sometimes in my car at that time of day (also "Morning Edition" on days I'm doing something like driving to Starkville)." Do you not have a radio in your home? I wake up to Morning Edition anytime I get up after 5 p.m., which is almost daily (except, of course, when Pope Benedict is doing someting important at 4 p.m.). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 20:58:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q1wcWm031702 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:58:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:58:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F29080@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:38 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q1wYGG030801 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:34 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2907F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200504260158.j3Q1wYGG030801@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:34 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: radio To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:42:03 -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Natalie: "Since retirement I'm rarely in my car when "Morning Edition" is >on .... Ditto "All Things Considered," though I am sometimes in my car at >that time of day (also "Morning Edition" on days I'm doing something like >driving to Starkville)." > >Do you not have a radio in your home? I wake up to Morning Edition anytime >I get up after 5 p.m., which is almost daily (except, of course, when Pope >Benedict is doing someting important at 4 p.m.). No radio here (except the little one in the clock radio upstairs). If I want music, I listen to one of the all-music stations on DirecTV. I dislike listening to talk radio. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 20:59:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q1wvWm031732 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:58:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:59:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006029A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q1wvj7030873 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2020345wra for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.27.4 with SMTP id a4mr2241433wra; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:58:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qMJ6c0JpTn0IuNc0NEom40XjT65spsCsfnq6UibtNIOFSFTrRxkpckyYpnkdm7r20cyFT1YeNlnJMyPs+OvfK/ikNApNG7Bd/Bd3j86DPQTBmDE/1eaAMj6fT7lVsvSnGQOKqxOsx7U4pO9JtIxw30JVyM6ORznjGZfN+g9On2c= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:56 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: radio In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3Q1wvWm031732 > Do you not have a radio in your home? I wake up to Morning Edition anytime > I get up after 5 p.m., which is almost daily (except, of course, when Pope > Benedict is doing someting important at 4 p.m.). --Bethany > I'm not Natalie, but I don't have a radio in my home. And because I'm seldom in a car anymore, I never listen to NPR. However, I would like to hear what Doris M believes. Could you back channel me a copy, Doris? -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 21:08:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q28fWm000388 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:08:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:08:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006029B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:08:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:08:41 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q28fv7031949 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:08:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426020840.HGLE1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:08:40 -0400 Message-ID: <426DA2A3.5020406@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:08:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: radio References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Do you not have a radio in your home? I wake up to Morning Edition anytime >I get up after 5 p.m., which is almost daily (except, of course, when Pope >Benedict is doing someting important at 4 p.m.). > > Yes, I think I have more than one radio. I know I have a transistor radio in a drawer. And I think that my tapedeck also includes a radio. Ditto the 5" tv set. But I don't normally turn on radio (or tv) unless there's something in particular that calls me to do so. On a typical day neither gets turned on. In my car, however, the radio stays on. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 21:30:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q2URWm002739 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:30:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:30:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00602B37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:30:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:30:26 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q2KPqF001154 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:20:25 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3Q2K25Y029643 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:20:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:20:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: talk radio? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wrote: >when Pope Benedict is doing someting important at 4 p.m.). Make that 4 A.m., of course. Janet wrote: >I dislike listening to talk radio. What is talk radio exactly? Any radio program where someone is not singing or playing a musical instrument? Do you like talk television? I watch very little television - I like news from my radio, particularly in the mornings, when I am moving around a lot. I do watch CNBC some in the mornings, but Morning Edition works best for me. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 21:46:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q2kIWm004472 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:46:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:46:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F291C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:46:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:46:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q2k76f004889 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:46:07 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F291FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:46:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200504260246.j3Q2k76f004889@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:46:07 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: talk radio? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:20:24 -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I wrote: >when Pope Benedict is doing someting important at 4 p.m.). >Make that 4 A.m., of course. > >Janet wrote: >I dislike listening to talk radio. > >What is talk radio exactly? Any radio program where someone is not singing >or playing a musical instrument? Pretty much. Although on those rare occasions when I can find radio drama, I listen to it. >Do you like talk television? Depends on what you mean. My preference for television is fictional stuff, things with narrative -- dramas, movies, sitcoms, stuff like that. I dislike reality TV (except for Queer Eye). But Edward loves nature shows and history shows. I still haven't learned to like the history shows, but I'm coming to enjoy the nature shows. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 21:49:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q2njWm004811 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:49:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:49:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00602B6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:49:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:49:45 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q2niwi005420 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:49:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426024945.LMTJ2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:49:45 -0400 Message-ID: <426DAC43.8090803@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:49:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Janet wrote: >I dislike listening to talk radio. > >What is talk radio exactly? Any radio program where someone is not singing >or playing a musical instrument? > > I'm not Janet, but I think of the term "talk radio" as not referring to all talking -- i.e., nor referring to all things that aren't music. I think of it as meaning programs like interviews or such. I don't think of news as being "talk radio." >I watch very little television - I like news from my radio, particularly >in the mornings, when I am moving around a lot. I do watch CNBC some in >the mornings, but Morning Edition works best for me. > > My computer works best for me. Although I always heard part of morning news on my radio when driving to work before I retired (normally around 7 a.m.), even then I found most of it redundant because I checked the news on my computer earlier in the morning. I do think I listened to the radio in my house more often in my pre-computer days. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 21:55:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q2tLWm005340 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:55:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:55:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2927D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:55:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:55:18 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q2tIQK006232 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:55:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.56]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426025518.LPRK2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:55:18 -0400 Message-ID: <426DAD91.10602@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:55:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? References: <200504260246.j3Q2k76f004889@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504260246.j3Q2k76f004889@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > but I'm coming to >enjoy the nature shows. > > I'm suddenly thinking about a funny story that I feel sure I must have told before. My mother told me about my niece's comment a number of years ago about watching tv with her other grandmother, a staunch Baptist. Audrey said that her grandmother forbade her to watch most tv shows -- that they were limited at her house to shows on nature channels about animals killing other animals. Audrey said that she usually went to bed early when staying there, preferring to lie in bed and read instead of watching the tv of the animals killing each other. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 21:56:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q2uCWm005466 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:56:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:56:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00602BD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:56:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:56:12 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q2uC4e006373 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:56:12 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E6B661E77402 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:56:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003101c54a0b$7475cca0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: radio Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:55:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "bonniemaev" To: Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: Re: radio > Do you not have a radio in your home? I wake up to Morning Edition anytime > I get up after 5 p.m., which is almost daily (except, of course, when Pope > Benedict is doing someting important at 4 p.m.). --Bethany > I'm not Natalie, but I don't have a radio in my home. And because I'm seldom in a car anymore, I never listen to NPR. However, I would like to hear what Doris M believes. Could you back channel me a copy, Doris? -- --bonniev No. Actually, the piece did not intend to say "what I believe" It was just one little angle on life. No big deal, and I guess I'd be embarrassed to have anyone read it. WHAT? Well, no one I know. If I read it on the radio I will assume that no one I knows will hear it. It's a big country and everyone is busy. Anyway the people I know would not find anything new in anything I write. But there could possibly be something of interest for people who don't know me. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 22:23:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q3N9Wm008767 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:23:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:23:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00602CFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:15:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:15:57 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q3FuCp010155 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:15:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j3Q3Fse1027901 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:15:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <426DB270.6070700@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:16:00 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >What is talk radio exactly? > For those of you who've been cloistered away from the rest of society, or who can't look something up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_radio -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 22:23:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q3N9Wm008766 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:23:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:23:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00602CEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:13:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:13:09 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q3D8tI009855 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:13:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14973BE8C5 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200504252035.j3PKZqdo018055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Jesus died so that we would know when to plant tomatoes X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:13:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 1:35 PM -0700 4/25/05, Janet Hardy wrote: >I'm blogging these days, a bit sporadically but I try to put up at least >something every day (with mixed success). If you want to look, it's at >www.g-blog.net/user/toughswitch . Inquiring minds want to know: how does one break a toe sewing? Ken Miller Speculative Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Apr 25 23:09:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q49AWm014806 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:09:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:09:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F29559@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:49:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:49:09 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q3n55K014092 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:49:05 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F2950A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:49:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200504260349.j3Q3n55K014092@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:49:05 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:13:01 -0700, Bookrat wrote: >At 1:35 PM -0700 4/25/05, Janet Hardy wrote: >>I'm blogging these days, a bit sporadically but I try to put up at least >>something every day (with mixed success). If you want to look, it's at >>www.g-blog.net/user/toughswitch . > >Inquiring minds want to know: how does one break a toe sewing? Apparently inquiring minds *do* want to know that, because if you'd read down in the comments, you'd have seen someone asking that self-same question, and read the following response: "Well, here's how. "You try to go to bed, but you're in a failing marriage and are feeling too upset and agitated to sleep. So you get up and take a couple of l-tryptophans, because it's back in the days when that could be purchased over the counter. "While you wait for the tryptophan to take effect, you decide to work a litle on one of your sewing projects. You sit down to stitch a seam, stand up to press it, sit down again, and hitch the chair, with 170+ lbs. of you on it, onto one of your little toes. Then you're very very quiet for a moment because it hurts too much to scream." Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 02:38:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3Q7cRWm008756 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:38:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:38:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00603324@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 3:38:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 03:38:26 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3Q7cP0e012709 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 03:38:26 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042609364918613 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:36:49 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:38:28 +0200 Message-ID: <426DEFEA.2060307@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:38:18 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quiet day References: <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> <148929705.20050425072528@gailndan.com> <426CF294.1050701@gmail.com> <426D7ADB.6050905@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <426D7ADB.6050905@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Apr 2005 07:38:28.0342 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFE3A160:01C54A32] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 26.04.2005 01:18: > Espen S. Ore wrote: > >> lived in New Haven) when my uncle expected that my mother and my aunt >> should cook a dinner for everyone when we finally came to New Haven. > > > So did they merrily set in to cooking after the 25 hours of flying? Not merrily, at least not my mother. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 05:55:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QAtfWm007125 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:55:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:55:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00603567@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 6:55:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:55:41 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3QAfj9t003489 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:41:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 42807 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Apr 2005 10:41:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:41:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quiet day Message-ID: <20050426104144.GA37593@words-l.org> References: <83db447a0504241729d3194fa@mail.gmail.com> <426C406C.3030100@maynor.net> <426CDEBE.8020608@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 10:29:56AM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 4/25/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > One thing that has interested me in watching the little airplane on the > > screens on long flights is how little time most flights are actually > > over open oceans -- how so often they go up and up and then make their > > way out over stepping stones of land to get to the other side of the > > ocean, leaving relatively short stretches of just water under them. Is > > that because it's safer to be closer to emergency-landing places, or is > > it because of winds and stuff, or some other reason, or just an oddity > > of flights I've happened to notice it on? > > When they started using twin-engine planes (notably the 767) on > transatlantic flights, the rules for distance to land (or maybe > distance to an airport) were much more strict than those for three and > four engine planes. So the routes on which 767s were used, which were > initially between smaller cities in North America and the traditional > European cities, took quite a bit longer because of routing and the > somewhat slower speed of the smaller aircraft. I understand that as > engines have proven their reliability, the rules have got more lax. > But I think there're still transatlantic routes that smaller planes > can't use that 747s can. Rules? Airlines are businesses. They should be able to do whatever they fucking want. That's it, it's time for war. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 06:08:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QB8QWm008719 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:08:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:08:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00603581@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 7:08:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:08:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3QAwPpc005638 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:58:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 71949 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Apr 2005 10:58:25 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:58:24 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! Message-ID: <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:32:28PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > There's also a... um. Sandwich place. Off of Union Sq. I can't remember the > street, though. I went there with my friend Luc one day, and we were amused > to discover that this very average-looking sandwich shop put cloth > tablecloths on the tables for dinner. I see that you are well up on foodie words like "amusing". I read an article some time ago about a couple of women selling T-shirts for babies. They say things like "Future foodie" or "I'll have the domestic white" ... something on those lines. I can't think of a grosser thing. I hope those babies grow up to be burrito-snarfing Budweiser-swilling construction workers. Did these women move from Austin, or what? Why? Austin is pretty weird you know! And quite amusing. Another T-shirt says "773 for life", with a subtitle saying something like I won't let Dad and Mom move to Naperville ... some such crap. I am not exactly a longtime Chicago resident, but someone who uses "773" to mean the city--man, that's just pathetic. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 06:41:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QBfhWm012789 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:41:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:41:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F29E96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 7:41:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:41:43 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QBfhF8003906 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:41:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.36]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426114142.YASC2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:41:42 -0400 Message-ID: <426E28F2.5060903@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:41:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Bangkok Tailors (less enthusiastic) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > When Price and I had some clothes made in Thailand I was very pleased > with the first coat...went back for LOTS of fittings. The second one > does not fit as well because there were not enough fittings (and they > had to be mailed because it was NOT ready in time...and we had to pay > for the postage!) > > Price has had clothes made in Bangkok. > > My suggestion about men's shirts is that ready made shirts are JUST AS > GOOD and fit better... > > AC -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 06:43:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QBhEWm012983 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:43:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:43:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F29EBB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 7:43:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:43:14 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QBXEDp002775 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:33:14 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3QBWoQW007628 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:32:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:33:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: all those definitions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>What is talk radio exactly? >For those of you who've been cloistered away from the rest of society, >or who can't look something up: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_radio I raised the question precisely because of the many, many definitions I found on the web - I repeat, "Context is all." Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 06:55:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QBtIWm014509 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:55:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:55:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00603649@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 7:55:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:55:18 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QBtHLL005962 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:55:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2163540wra for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 04:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.129.15 with SMTP id b15mr2401966wrd; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 04:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 04:55:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RkgzW3dj6UtG/1n9DxY29lgrNtpFYKYA5EazzjNNaw7dPmCnsppGmdSSRsFk3Wp5q7cHMUqryCiJE2jqVD6a/QkhS53tgaL79Y1s4TKROmoV1FvfIqTVnNFFvpGECaRmFjZZ2MP3wpcYLrliK/o3irlZQG5Y+FG/WA5KkiFJ38g= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:55:16 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? In-Reply-To: <200504260246.j3Q2k76f004889@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504260246.j3Q2k76f004889@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QBtIWm014509 > > Depends on what you mean. My preference for television is fictional stuff, > things with narrative -- dramas, movies, sitcoms, stuff like that. I > dislike > reality TV (except for Queer Eye). But Edward loves nature shows and > history > shows. I still haven't learned to like the history shows, but I'm coming > to > enjoy the nature shows. --Janet > Do you also read fiction and not much non-fiction? I like fiction much better than non-fiction. I think it has a better chance of telling interesting truths than the facts of biographies and such. Perhaps I think of Suvivor and The Amazing Race as fiction. I never forget that the camera is there, altering reality even before the editors do their final alterations of what really happened. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 06:55:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QBtUWm014549 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:55:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:55:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006036FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 7:55:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:55:24 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QBtOxD005979 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:55:24 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 94741535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:55:24 -0400 Message-ID: <426E2C25.4020905@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:55:17 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcams References: <426D85E2.1060800@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <426D85E2.1060800@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lots of activity today ... and much disruption of normal foot traffic flow. Oh well, it is all in the name of art. http://www.bc.edu/publications/atbc/webcams/oneill/ In other minimally related news, I was listening to talk about requiring Indiana to adopt daylight savings time on NPR this morning. Evidently, not doing so results in truck drivers making mistakes in their logs. I'm not sure that it has any effect at all, but our webcams don't seem to have adopted the concept either. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 07:10:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QCAJWm016916 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:10:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:10:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F29EC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 7:50:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:50:18 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QBoIIB005193 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:50:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.36]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426115018.YDUP2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:50:18 -0400 Message-ID: <426E2AF5.20109@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:50:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Another T-shirt says "773 for life", with a subtitle saying >something like I won't let Dad and Mom move to Naperville ... some >such crap. I am not exactly a longtime Chicago resident, but someone >who uses "773" to mean the city--man, that's just pathetic. > > What's 773 -- the area code? I saw some t-shirts (for adults, not babies) at the Belhaven Market several weeks ago that said "39202" followed by something about being a little piece of heaven or something like that. I thought they were kind of cute. Fondren needs some t-shirts. Belhaven and Fondren are sort of and sort of . (Belhaven was the only other neighborhood I house-shopped in. I didn't care which of the two I ended up in. It just happened to be Fondren. I also have in both since I lived the first five years of my life in Belhaven and the rest of my pre-adult life in Fondren.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 07:21:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QCLTWm017991 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:21:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:21:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006035A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 8:21:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:21:29 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QCLTe4011550 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:21:29 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3QCLS7M005094 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:21:28 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3QCKCiY021849 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:20:13 -0400 Message-ID: <021b01c54a5a$4bd32cd0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002101c549f5$02db9f90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Subject: Re: NPR Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:20:11 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Markland" > Now wouldn't that be a words-l moment? Go Doris! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 07:51:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QCpTWm021816 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:51:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:51:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F2A118@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 8:51:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 154511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:51:29 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QCpTSS017660 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:51:29 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1899722wri for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.4 with SMTP id o4mr2582128wrc; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:51:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MZXaKky4NkqSv587cGGT8+/4tuJlcuaxG/NbZ+zPq4O2UTuwj/hb8xzgnHLUDMTrzCPF6+ZNYcBnGnsjy+jNWLtMLiemhDRLO2PA1SMh5xMp+Tx02ZpzRdrPYU7tAY5zNQBraT0EkNXzJLFm3nQQFWOcZI8f/kTyxrk8tMHbds8= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:51:29 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You guys are QUIET. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050424165228.028410e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QCpTWm021816 On 4/24/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: I checked them out when Marie posted their URL for chasing. I've also heard them on the radio. So far they just get a big meh from me. Maybe if I go to the Eastern States Exposition for other reasons this year I'll go on that day and see them anyways. I loved LLB more when they were a little band I on WFUV and playing (not even headlining) the Mercury Lounge. Now that they are *superstars* and Grammy winners, they aren't as interesting to me. However, it will be interested to see if they develop, or become one-hit wonders. "Heaven" is an okay song, but definitely not the best part of their album -- and DEFINITELY overplayed. I hear it in elevators, for chrissakes! AND...worse, the were guests on THE VIEW!!!!! I look forward to their next album. They really ought to get out of the spotlight and back into the garage, or the studio or wherever. Henry's guitar would be a terrible thing to waste. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 07:53:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QCrkWm021993 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:53:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:53:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F2A0E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 8:53:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 154724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:53:45 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QCriuj018004 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:53:44 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3QCri7M006121 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:53:44 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3QCpkiY032296 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:51:47 -0400 Message-ID: <025d01c54a5e$b4e5fdc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <83db447a050426054759bac4e8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Off... Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:51:46 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" > ...to catch the great silver bird. With any luck at all, the next post > will > be from Bergen. > cwv ' sicherer Flug From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 07:58:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QCvwWm022503 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:57:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:58:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006037A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 8:47:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 154293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:47:58 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QClqBk017125 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:47:52 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1898777wri for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.112.3 with SMTP id k3mr590486wrc; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:47:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=IvRSycuqbLvdthqxjfSvl2X7RXSTIEwskqBIxoYV4eEUp9FlmpsANSXuaUZ7glhw01VxrgGoVkRy9SGAOnC784XY3nFvAy5tVjN3n1u8E3f+AaSZg7UVU2eGl7wfH0WCDcmQNvEK81gEL0FwGbkSYbIwKojsO/VzFJrmFf2kG/Q= Message-ID: <83db447a050426054759bac4e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:47:52 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: Off... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QCvwWm022503 ...to catch the great silver bird. With any luck at all, the next post will be from Bergen. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 07:58:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QCvwWm022506 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:57:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:58:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00603854@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 8:57:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:57:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QCvXCn018628 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:57:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1901608wri for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.5.46 with SMTP id 46mr2575678wre; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:57:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mlNyjtE8+CtdHKYxcliaDpfWKxCGhGn8Z7YlMTlnJmut37QB0jJmvoBSHEgkCe8vQCCjbSYaLZGXXWFP2YIZ4WkVJHOSX5zleZdz09tIiUSlQ/wBs21+2Y/OPpm5envbSyY34RYqv7X89KYA21VjHHiT46mGBcl8SAwSHOdJPPQ= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:57:33 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: an intriguing invitation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QCvwWm022506 This doesn't interfere with fingerfestering, does it? Marie On 4/25/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I got email from my new-found cousin in London. She has invited me for > the weekend of July 9-11 for her parents' anniversary. I'm seriously > considering it. I did a quick check of prices for SYR-LHR and found > that it would be about $700-900 round trip. Anyone have any good ideas > about cheaper flights? > > BrP > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 07:58:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QCvwWm022504 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:57:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:58:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006036C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 8:53:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 154754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:53:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QCrsLU018033 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:53:54 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1900417wri for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.76 with SMTP id 76mr2584694wro; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:53:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=uDGzwif+85jWrQnoMCesIb2bwXU0zAUu3rcZeXR7DeL5LqsJbpBDT0XYSILKfPDyM9tXQcwKyUOnnf9FeEMUzIe5UN6q34cvcrLJ0Wp5KOIykmVDO7razHEe6JoHC2Z96VmYvU1wXd3ZNUPfGFxmek60x78NKUvJZTNgqQOypGY= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:53:53 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You guys are QUIET. In-Reply-To: <200504250011.j3P0BvG8022517@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504250011.j3P0BvG8022517@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QCvwWm022504 Mrs. Williams, Have you ever been to a Dan Zanes concert? I him. He's now probably the most-played artist in the house. http://www.danzanes.com/ Marie On 4/24/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > > >Adam, you should check out Los Lonely Boys when they come to Springfield. > > > >http://www.loslonelyboys.org/subset_tour.html > > > >Betty > > Hey! > > I was just checking out Ticketmaster for LLB, here August 2. We've just > come from the same venue (Dodge Theatre)in Phoenix where we saw Sesame > Street Live: Elmo's Coloring Book. > > All the meebers dug it! Nice production. > > I was intrigued by the LLB poster in the lobby I saw afterward. > > The Moody Blues will be there before then, but the best seats are all > gone. John's seen them before anyway--and I'm ambivalent. > > ALW > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 08:13:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QDDNWm024533 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:13:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:13:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00603995@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 9:03:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:03:22 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QD3L5Y019758 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:03:21 -0400 Received: from mxfep02 ([195.54.107.73] [195.54.107.73]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050426130320.CDO3591.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:03:20 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More re the Bangkok Tailor Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:03:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050426130320.CDO3591.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for all the info. It will be interesting to see what we find. According to Dan, who has been to Bangkok several times, these tailors are a dime a dozen. So as with anything else, there are good ones and bad ones. Well, we'll see! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 08:19:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QDJsWm025035 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:19:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:19:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00603C1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 9:19:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:19:54 -0400 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3QDJrc6022974 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:19:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 46466 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2005 13:19:53 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:19:53 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=IBk2sgicZU2euGpLeHNlCiQGDUxdm2ws4AKMmnP5y0Kd53ZkNrGHaQHH0JXUoBT5jiunh7bi/bQLR8ZoQfYO8zB/XHVX6UpLpIXnMoDOz1/3nu9Jqu5Ru6iacn/gcIb2zMoOYP8j9WFYUye9p0pod/4lc49DJVbUg8HXZ1sn55w= ; Message-ID: <20050426131953.46464.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Gone... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Hey, Lynne -- Spencer potted himself today in the > OTHER big pot. I am sure I'd prefer potted mutt to potted meat. (But he has > apparently left the tomatoes > alone. They seem fine.) An animal with foresight. He allows the fruit to ripen on the vine in anticipation of summer kitchen treats. On Sat., Jaysie appeared from her sanctuary under the deck with an inch of mulch and deck refuse riding on her back. I had swept it through the cracks onto her (not deliberately, of course). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 08:29:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QDSuWm025936 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:28:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:29:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00603C51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 9:28:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:28:56 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QDSsR5024678 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:28:55 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1910642wri for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.30.65 with SMTP id d65mr2584089wrd; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:28:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lfPrDFyCuhrPZY/ef6w2PYuEvRi8C+ghV++Ae5vnF9ViJfo0Sc5DPLfP9JFTg27SEMKzNyc9xwQbN2+PfC9bNmesc52/dtTEjhqUtX6RuH2EHj+dIHmtovbabxJ/WJeYzwRmoJgeJ+zuYoVid4PWBu2+cIynD/vKSAMVEMb8M3Y= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:28:53 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: he wasn't alone In-Reply-To: <64357672.20050425072334@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <64357672.20050425072334@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QDSuWm025936 God said Time Time belongs to me Time's my secret weapon My final advantage God turned away >From the edge of town I knew I was beaten And that now was all I had God Said No -- Dan Bern On 4/25/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/25/2005, 6:10 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > PB> VATICAN CITY -- Pope Benedict XVI is reported to have said he prayed > to > PB> God during the conclave not to be elected pope but that "evidently > this > PB> time He didn't listen to me." > > Well, maybe God answered, but the answer was NO. > > Understand your similar prayer...but not sure that any of the others > would be much different in theology and doctrine. You don't get to > that level in the church by being a radical. Radical priests, yes. > Maybe even a few radical bishops....but cardinals? > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 08:34:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QDYQWm026516 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:34:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:34:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00603C72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 9:34:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:34:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QDYPrC025717 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:34:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1912611wri for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.77.16 with SMTP id z16mr2590532wra; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=slWWIOPQdakCLrr5Lwt/q9Z3XW/rvu1Ikcy4NbFPDnBOlKzs0KAlkZAGVKuhEwhP/E1cpA7GPOhbqmHEcUyN0D+PsptUudER5mMnOwpwEkJpMR7mqL6zkkTYZJrPcEfkOnIC1o1WdxnYiE/vlwBGhQevqliw3/9ypI8OzF0LDiw= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:34:25 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Visiting Sweden In-Reply-To: <426CA87B.8070800@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <3c1d5b50050420114079c7aeee@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705042011532460136@mail.gmail.com> <426CA87B.8070800@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QDYQWm026516 On 4/25/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: >First fried, then pickled. I guess it's not batter-fried or breaded. >I wish I liked herring better than I do. I love pickled herring in cream sauce with onions! YUM-MO! -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 08:42:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QDg3Wm027233 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:42:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:42:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F2A2AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 9:42:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:42:03 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QDg2xY027229 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:42:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1914912wri for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.4 with SMTP id o4mr2612391wrc; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:41:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Z/xkQSH8C0yioXsOvRaZ1udtaRCo0Jeqy9sOt6gabBjDlKl4EKXQVVvIZAziyYEiqKd8ZQiNncBvB5037yiQA1v6pq6NxokCwu1bvscCnOaIiwMjEGgqGXswOBL6yQaypyCqBTGoCJmx4DIW9rWZJgI8tjUk+QqVrdi28S/iCHQ= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:41:59 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trek In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QDg3Wm027233 What kind of riding do you plan to do? On-road, off-road, or both? Marie On 4/18/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > Bush rides a Trek - anyone else? > > I am bicycle-shopping ... > > If I bought a Trek, then Bush and I would have two things in common, > > Bethany > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From stock3070@xynetmail.biz Tue Apr 26 08:43:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from xynetmail.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QDhmWn027387 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:43:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200504261343.j3QDhmWn027387@gtoal.com> Received: from 209.203.195.60 ([209.203.195.60]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:43:56 CDT From: "Stock Spotlight" Subject: Stock Spotlight - OTC PK : CYGT To: words-l@gtoal.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: stock3070@xynetmail.biz Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:43:49 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Did you turn a 2,000% gain on your investment in one month?? If you bought Mellon Research, Inc. (OTC PK: MLON) you would have realized a 2,000% GAIN in less than 14 days!!!

Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc. ( OTC PK : CYGT ) is our latest Hot Stock Pick !!! This Hot Penny Stock just went public, has a tight float and has reported substantial year over year revenues. The company is currently profitable and expects significant revenue growth in '05 and '06 based on a strong base of recurring revenues. Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc. is an emerging growth company which provides ticketing, reservations and financial processing technology and services on a fee per transaction basis to the leisure and entertainment industry. Key clients include Universal Studios Theme Parks, Cedar Point Amusement Parks, Knotts Berry Farm, Summer Resorts and AAA to name a few. Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc trades under the ticker symbol CYGT .

CYGT is priced at $0.70 cents. Look for large volume increases, followed by a sharp rise in share price. Don't Miss Out on the next BIG move!!!

Current price: $0.70 cents per share

Symbol:
Current Price 		CYGT
$0.70

For More Information visit: http://www.cygnus.com

Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc. has 4 major fundamental investor facts speculative investors should take notice of:

•  Cygnus Reaches Financial Milestone in First Quarter 2005. Achieves Positive Cash Flow on Record Revenues : CYGT announced they have achieved positive cash flow for the first time as a result of record revenues. Revenues exceeded management projections. Company revenues for the first quarter rose by more than 30% when compared to the same period last year. Management anticipates record revenue generation during peak summer months.

•  Strong Foothold : CYGT has a strong foothold in ticketing and reservations with big name clients such as Universal Studios Theme Parks as well as Cedar Fair L.P. (NYSE:“FUN”). Further, Cygnus believes there are NO competitors offering the full range of capabilities provided by Cygnus.

•  Financials : Company is Cash Flow Positive with Earnings Before Interest and Taxes (EBIT) estimated at $2.2 Million for ‘05. Audited Financials Anticipated to be Released within 60 Days.

The Company:
Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc. (OTC PK: CYGT) Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc. is an emerging growth company which provides ticketing, reservations and financial processing technology and services on fee per transaction basis to the leisure and entertainment industry. Key clients include Universal Studios Theme Parks , Cedar Point Amusement Park , Knotts Berry Farm and Summer Resorts.

Company Highlights:
Cygnus Reaches Financial Milestone in First Quarter 2005. Achieves Positive Cash Flow on Record Revenues: CYGT announced they have achieved positive cash flow for the first time as a result of record revenues that exceeded projections. Company revenues for the first quarter rose by more than 30 percent when compared to the same period last year. Management anticipates record revenue generation during peak summer months.

Cygnus Announces, Merger, and Stock Trading: Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc announced it has merged with Cygnus Entertainment and initiated trading in April. The company seems to be well positioned and management has proven they can land the big clients with the likes of Universal Studios Theme Parks and AAA to name a few.

REASONS TO BUY THIS STOCK TODAY!!

1.) CYGT Reports profitable quarter in Q-1 '05 and maintains strong recurring revenue growth going forward. Company has maintained guidance for '05 to be cash flow positive with Earnings Before Interest and Taxes (EBIT) estimated at $2.2 Million. Audited Financials Anticipated to be Released in 60 Days.
2.) Management Preparing for Record Revenues During Peak Summer Months.
3.) CYGT Just Went Public and has a Tight Float. Tight Float Allows Increased Ability for Investors to Generate Large Profits Quickly!!
4.) Company has Plans to move to American Stock Exchange by Year End 2005.
5.) CYGT has Strong Foothold in Leisure and Entertainment Industry. Growing List of Clients Include Universal Studios Theme Parks, Cedar Point Amusement Park, Knotts Berry Farm and Summer Resorts.

Investment Opinion:
Take advantage of current trading levels. This is a ground floor opportunity you can't afford to miss. At current price levels, a little bit of movement will go a long way.

Look for heavy volume and significant price increases in the short term. This is an inexpensive stock by anyone's standards. Don't Miss Out!!!

Current Price: $0.70 cents per share
Disclaimer
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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 08:49:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QDn7Wm027976 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:49:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:49:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2A335@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 9:49:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:49:07 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QDn7gL028644 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:49:07 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F2A348@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 9:49:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200504261349.j3QDn7gL028644@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:49:07 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: You guys are QUIET. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:53:53 -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: >Mrs. Williams, > Have you ever been to a Dan Zanes concert? > I him. He's now probably the most-played artist in the house. > http://www.danzanes.com/ > Marie No -- but he looks like my kinda guy! Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 08:50:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QDoCWm028114 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:50:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:50:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2A337@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 9:50:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:50:12 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QDnfbe028776 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:49:41 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:49:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:49:32 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: an intriguing invitation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU nope y'all could give me a going away party because I'd be leaving three days later. BrP >>> marieber@GMAIL.COM 4/26/2005 8:57:33 AM >>> This doesn't interfere with fingerfestering, does it? Marie On 4/25/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I got email from my new-found cousin in London. She has invited me for > the weekend of July 9-11 for her parents' anniversary. I'm seriously > considering it. I did a quick check of prices for SYR-LHR and found > that it would be about $700-900 round trip. Anyone have any good ideas > about cheaper flights? > > BrP > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 08:58:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QDwZWm029010 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:58:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00603BFE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 9:58:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:58:35 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QDwYfG030729 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:58:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3355974D0 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:58:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15941-04 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:58:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8B697A59 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:58:31 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <426E4904.7090302@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:58:28 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504252035.j3PKZqdo018055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504252035.j3PKZqdo018055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.044 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, MANY_EXCLAMATIONS X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: >If any of you watched "Joan of Arcadia" Friday night, Miles was one of the >two evil clowns > Never saw it, but just googled for JoA+Miles -- got a number of links to sites where both "Joan of Arcadia" and "Miles Away" were mentioned, and also where just miles and miles and miles were mentioned. Just for future searches: what is Miles's surname? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 09:05:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QE5OWm030066 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:05:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:05:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00603C57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:05:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:05:23 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3QDtNM6030105 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:55:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 22487 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Apr 2005 13:55:22 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:55:22 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! Message-ID: <20050426135522.GA20676@words-l.org> References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> <426E2AF5.20109@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <426E2AF5.20109@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 06:50:13AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Another T-shirt says "773 for life", with a subtitle saying > >something like I won't let Dad and Mom move to Naperville ... some > >such crap. I am not exactly a longtime Chicago resident, but someone > >who uses "773" to mean the city--man, that's just pathetic. > > > > What's 773 -- the area code? Yes. True, theoretically it covers a large part of the metropolitan area now. But 312 is the one that bears the meaning. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 09:54:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QEs8Wm003564 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:54:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:54:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00603DD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:54:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:54:08 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QEs7RX010335 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:54:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3737F97657 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:54:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23748-10 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:54:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3738B979F2 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:54:06 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <426E55F4.7040003@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:53:40 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: thoughts while washing windows References: <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <426D7D20.1080603@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <426D7D20.1080603@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.337 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Marcia Franzen wrote: > >> as I washed some serious grime away if I would like these places and if >> I can manage to get some clothes tailor-made in Bangkok. A friend of > > I've got several different friends who have had clothes made in Bangkok > repeatedly -- as in they've found particular tailors that they keep > going back and back to. Why do people want to go to a tailor in Bangkok? Because of cheapness? Their skills? (As much as I could grab from other messages of this thread not for their local or native styles?) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 10:21:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QFKmWm007155 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:20:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:21:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2A7BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:20:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:20:48 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QFKlAg016058 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:20:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7F797A0D for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:20:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28377-02 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:20:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C9A97B5D for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:20:43 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <426E5C24.3040107@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:20:04 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: radio References: <003101c54a0b$7475cca0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <003101c54a0b$7475cca0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.339 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > No > big deal, and I guess I'd be embarrassed to have > anyone read it. WHAT? Well, no one I know. I hope I won't deprive you of your good night's sleep saying that NPR may, just may, put it on their web site of essays. Believe me, most of us would read it if that should happen, even if, as you said > the people I know > would not find anything new in anything I write. Besides, re-reading familiar thoughts -- if they turn out to be familiar -- is not too bad an idea either. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 10:32:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QFWKWm008844 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:32:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:32:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00603FD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:22:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:22:20 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QFMJkm016447 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:22:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4251297B1F for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:22:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28622-03 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:22:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646BF97B5B for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:22:18 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <426E5C82.60300@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:21:38 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Off... References: <83db447a050426054759bac4e8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050426054759bac4e8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.34 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >...to catch the great silver bird. With any luck at all, the next post will >be from Bergen. > I wonder whether we will hear from an excessively happy Bonnie V. again soon. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 10:32:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QFWLWm008845 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:32:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:32:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00603EF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:25:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:25:40 -0400 Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QFPdKf017694 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:25:40 -0400 Received: from mxfep01 ([195.54.107.70] [195.54.107.70]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050426152538.OQGW20083.mxfep01.bredband.com@mxfep01> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:25:38 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: thoughts while washing windows Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:25:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050426152538.OQGW20083.mxfep01.bredband.com@mxfep01> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Why do people want to go to a tailor in Bangkok? Because of cheapness? > Their skills? (As much as I could grab from other messages of this > thread not for their local or native styles?) > > Kristin Because they are inexpensive and I have a very hard time finding any nicer dress clothes that fit, being 178 cm and almost 90 kg. At least those are my reasons. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 11:11:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QGApWm013465 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:10:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:11:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00604172@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:10:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:10:44 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QG0hSl025438 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:00:43 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3QG0KTk002777 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:00:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:00:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Trekking Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber asked: >What kind of riding do you plan to do? On-road, off-road, or both? I am trying to figure that out before I look at bikes - probably both. There are many convenient trails in Knoxville, but I will also want to tool around in Sequoyah Hills, as many others do. Advice welcome. Maybe I can go ahead and buy a helmet. 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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 12:41:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QHf3Wm026509 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:41:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:41:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00604474@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:41:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 183940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:41:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QHf1Db011932 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:41:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so26330nzn for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.59.18 with SMTP id h18mr631526nza; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:41:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=WeAJg9JHLjilJRCeClcm+TZteJbvqj0OHAB0tXTKG32oCJQe4qSrS4u99rPP4plexrGdA1LfxjiQggZT8PBD1JZWgMv9hK6CmLfDumtRObw0fw00xxKIzNBg0kFi1fvlwVrSlPgQwDDwlslG5vnFDss4wjxN6yQibnbF6loeqLU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:41:00 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Can anyone help me with Greek? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3QHf2Db011934 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Our vendor just introduced a fancy new product called "Corinthian" for high-end customers, but they haven't implemented many of the requests that their dedicated but poorer customers have been asking for. So I want to make T-shirts for the next convention that quote Aristophanes' "Plutus", which says something like "And what about those Corinthian whores? They won't give a poor man the time of day, but if he's rich, they'll bend over in an instant!" I have the Greek text from the Perseus website, but when I design the shirt, I'll want to make sure that I've got everything right. Would anyone be willing to check it out when it's done? Ben -- "I would say that a buzzsaw blade between a guy's legs on the album cover is a good indication that it is not for little Johnny." -- Frank Zappa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 12:59:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QHxhWm029086 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:59:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:59:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006044F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:59:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:59:42 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QHxg93015529 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:59:42 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3QHw17q023054; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:59:40 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3QHuFiY013707; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:56:16 -0400 Message-ID: <035d01c54a89$3db08240$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" , References: Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with Greek? Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:56:13 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have you been to babelfish with it? http://babelfish.altavista.com/ I don't know how this will transpose through the listserv, so I sent this to you personally too... it is what babelfish spat forth: Και τι γίνεται με εκείνες τις κοÏινθιακές πόÏνες; Δεν θα δώσουν σε ένα φτωχό άτομο το χÏόνο της ημέÏας, αλλά εάν πλοÏσιοι, αυτοί θα κάμψει σε μια στιγμή! 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Ostrowsky" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: Can anyone help me with Greek? > Our vendor just introduced a fancy new product called "Corinthian" for > high-end customers, but they haven't implemented many of the requests > that their dedicated but poorer customers have been asking for. > > So I want to make T-shirts for the next convention that quote > Aristophanes' "Plutus", which says something like "And what about > those Corinthian whores? They won't give a poor man the time of day, > but if he's rich, they'll bend over in an instant!" > > I have the Greek text from the Perseus website, but when I design the > shirt, I'll want to make sure that I've got everything right. Would > anyone be willing to check it out when it's done? > > Ben > > -- > "I would say that a buzzsaw blade between a guy's legs on the album cover > is a good indication that it is not for little Johnny." -- Frank Zappa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 13:24:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QIOFWm000020 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:24:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:24:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00604416@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:24:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 188364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:24:14 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QIODWo020116 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:24:13 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3QIO37g025306 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:24:12 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3QIL8iY025146 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:21:09 -0400 Message-ID: <03be01c54a8c$b7d2a780$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <035d01c54a89$3db08240$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Can anyone help me with Greek? Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:21:07 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cool... it came through, for me at least. What you might want to do is paste it back into babelfish, and have it translate back to English, repeatedly with mods until it comes out straight... then you know you have a perfect translation. ;-) 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Wild" > Have you been to babelfish with it? > > http://babelfish.altavista.com/ > > I don't know how this will transpose through the listserv, so I sent this > to > you personally too... it is what babelfish spat forth: > > Και τι γίνεται με εκείνες τις κοÏινθιακές πόÏνες; Δεν θα δώσουν σε ένα > φτωχό > άτομο το χÏόνο της ημέÏας, αλλά εάν πλοÏσιοι, αυτοί θα κάμψει σε μια > στιγμή! > > 'Alan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Ostrowsky" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:41 PM > Subject: Can anyone help me with Greek? > > >> Our vendor just introduced a fancy new product called "Corinthian" for >> high-end customers, but they haven't implemented many of the requests >> that their dedicated but poorer customers have been asking for. >> >> So I want to make T-shirts for the next convention that quote >> Aristophanes' "Plutus", which says something like "And what about >> those Corinthian whores? They won't give a poor man the time of day, >> but if he's rich, they'll bend over in an instant!" >> >> I have the Greek text from the Perseus website, but when I design the >> shirt, I'll want to make sure that I've got everything right. Would >> anyone be willing to check it out when it's done? >> >> Ben >> >> -- >> "I would say that a buzzsaw blade between a guy's legs on the album cover >> is a good indication that it is not for little Johnny." -- Frank Zappa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 14:28:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QJS9Wm009268 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:28:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:28:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00604701@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:28:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 193785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:28:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3QJI9uN029491 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:18:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 14501 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Apr 2005 19:18:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:18:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with Greek? Message-ID: <20050426191808.GA13288@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:41:00PM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > Our vendor just introduced a fancy new product called "Corinthian" for > high-end customers, but they haven't implemented many of the requests > that their dedicated but poorer customers have been asking for. > > So I want to make T-shirts for the next convention that quote > Aristophanes' "Plutus", which says something like "And what about > those Corinthian whores? They won't give a poor man the time of day, > but if he's rich, they'll bend over in an instant!" > > I have the Greek text from the Perseus website, but when I design the > shirt, I'll want to make sure that I've got everything right. Would > anyone be willing to check it out when it's done? NERD! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 14:40:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QJeIWm011204 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:40:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:40:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006047C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:30:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 194139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:30:46 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3QJKi4U030191 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:20:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 16295 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Apr 2005 19:20:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:20:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: an intriguing invitation Message-ID: <20050426192044.GA15723@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 09:49:32AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > y'all could give me a going away party because I'd be leaving three > days later. Why? You are a horrible person. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 14:40:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QJeIWm011207 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:40:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:40:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00604655@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:37:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:37:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QJbHnl000926 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:37:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so52751nzp for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.32.10 with SMTP id f10mr4773nzf; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:37:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bI9/MUOabppONPAbBK7MI6MmHDh77khFgWP3s9B24FrIYdJBMZf3Il7LdfvFTLDgvihtdrR0MJNI+DUFam3B+RFRNC7s/VGX0Q13nhgx2J6bICe/Goe0tnSziXb78ANdxehCSxh2VjR/V8mNzJfJgnxzzHLjuoQKgGgCqfMrnNA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:37:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QJeIWm011207 On 4/26/05, Janet Hardy wrote: > > Taber, and I hope someday you find it -- but right now he's a lowly extra, > and hence > not credited. The process of getting a SAG card is labyrinthine and he's > just taking > his first steps. > This reminds me of Alyce's tenant. FWIW, I did watch that JoA show--I even taped it, but I've since taped over it. If I'd known it was Miles, I wouldn't have taped over it. He did an excellent job.:) -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 14:40:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QJeIWm011210 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:40:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:40:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006047F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:33:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:33:03 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QJX1K6032731 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:33:01 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00604740@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:33:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:32:52 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:58:28 +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: >Janet Hardy wrote: > >>If any of you watched "Joan of Arcadia" Friday night, Miles was one of the >>two evil clowns >> >Never saw it, but just googled for JoA+Miles -- got a number of links to >sites where both "Joan of Arcadia" and "Miles Away" were mentioned, and >also where just miles and miles and miles were mentioned. Just for >future searches: what is Miles's surname? Taber, and I hope someday you find it -- but right now he's a lowly extra, and hence not credited. The process of getting a SAG card is labyrinthine and he's just taking his first steps. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 14:40:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QJeIWm011202 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:40:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:40:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006047BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:30:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:30:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QJU57G032190 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:30:05 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2B357@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:30:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200504261930.j3QJU57G032190@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:30:04 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: talk radio? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:55:16 -0400, bonniemaev wrote: >> >> Depends on what you mean. My preference for television is fictional stuff, >> things with narrative -- dramas, movies, sitcoms, stuff like that. I >> dislike >> reality TV (except for Queer Eye). But Edward loves nature shows and >> history >> shows. I still haven't learned to like the history shows, but I'm coming >> to >> enjoy the nature shows. --Janet >> > Do you also read fiction and not much non-fiction? I like fiction much >better than non-fiction. Somewhere between. These days I'm mostly reading memoirs and personal essays -- they seem to best scratch my reading itch. Plain unornamented nonfiction isn't usually interesting to me, and these days it seems as though most of the fiction I read isn't very good. Although I just got around to reading "Little Big Man," closely followed by "Everything Is Illuminated," and now I'm feeling like I'm afraid to read anything more because I don't want to break my streak. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 14:40:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QJeIWm011209 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:40:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:40:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00604761@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:37:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:37:28 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QJbS6t000977 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:37:28 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:37:28 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:37:18 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: an intriguing invitation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can always count on you to be the only one to notice. BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/26/2005 3:20:44 PM >>> You are a horrible person. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 14:48:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QJmaWm012321 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:48:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:48:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2B3D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:38:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:38:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QJcZHw001231 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:38:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so53066nzp for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.20 with SMTP id o20mr5075nzo; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:38:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dtWOUDMIdOWXVlcCvnpxBY7/WP5/N2m96OhXk/HcqweQnXgidzFbO/7suo8jCw4VYPRJc82xpvcSCPW4hHuhbuWbRd8tYCitwMTuveJry9BHrS/yDmuMfWRg1W8FhQRnpHwNV7+8s+rJjZVtBkpS0u1JgCC3AUGcKn3GWNvwumo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042612382d34905@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:38:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? In-Reply-To: <200504261930.j3QJU57G032190@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504261930.j3QJU57G032190@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QJmaWm012321 On 4/26/05, Janet Hardy wrote: > > Somewhere between. These days I'm mostly reading memoirs and personal > essays > -- they seem to best scratch my reading itch. Did you read the Lauren Bacall book? -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 15:12:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QKCCWm015570 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:12:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00604952@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:10:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:10:14 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QKAE5V007158 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:10:14 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 98006118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:10:13 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050426130956.00b52c58@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:10:10 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: an intriguing invitation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We love you anyway! Betty At 03:37 PM 4/26/2005 -0400, you wrote: >I can always count on you to be the only one to notice. > >BrP > > >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/26/2005 3:20:44 PM >>> > > You are a horrible person. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 15:12:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QKCCWm015569 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:12:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00604787@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:42:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:42:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QJgAjH001744 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:42:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so54079nzp for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.49.17 with SMTP id w17mr5060nzw; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:42:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=DFoEkFHOjEU8tBIiYwBYQJm6QuiqvLAsN1T2GwxcTILGC8hrkCgKiq35tbER9hW6jHHHv05Atu6m8l8Elv+Jf5NGmUJi7Q3QK2kL704lbyycZcLspmiFBs52sOcjLVjG+oEymJ6yU5zHUsY+fDyOjBAr2lyOboBJMo6WSic+b7U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050426124279c82392@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:42:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: That reminds me, Janet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QKCCWm015569 The French girl book I got out of the library and the French girl book you were thinking of are different books. I think the book you were thinking of is http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1400042127/qid=1114544438/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-7108375-6997561 (Saw it at BB&B on Saturday.) Mine was http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312308760/qid=1114544399/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-7108375-6997561?v=glance&s=books -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 15:28:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QKS7Wm017828 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:28:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:28:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006049D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:28:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:28:06 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QKS6DO010970 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:28:06 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:28:06 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:27:39 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: an intriguing invitation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm not as bad as you, but I'm trying. Do you give lessons? BrP >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 4/26/2005 4:10:10 PM >>> We love you anyway! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 16:44:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QLiCWm032087 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:44:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:44:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060493F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:17:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:17:21 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QLH767020033 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:17:07 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2B83B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:17:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200504262117.j3QLH767020033@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:17:06 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: talk radio? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:38:34 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 4/26/05, Janet Hardy <verdie@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> Somewhere between. These days I'm mostly reading memoirs and personal >> essays >> -- they seem to best scratch my reading itch. > > >Did you read the Lauren Bacall book? No; is it any good? That one, and the Jane Fonda one, strike me as things to get from the library someday, but not in any big hurry. I've been moving slowly through J.D. Salinger's daughter's memoirs during hiatuses between other books -- beautifully written, but rather dark, and hence slow going. I also recently reread the collected essays of E.B. White, which make me feel that I never want to write anything again because I'm never going to be a tenth that good. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 16:44:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QLiCWm032088 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:44:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:44:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00604A37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:14:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:14:11 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QLE4LW019553 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:14:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F2B7E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:14:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200504262114.j3QLE4LW019553@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:14:04 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: That reminds me, Janet To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As may be. I tried taking her advice -- fixing myself three smallish, balanced meals a day, eating them slowly, giving up rich sweets for a few nibbles of good chocolate, etc. -- and gained three pounds in two weeks. I'm back to eating cold pizza at the computer until I think of something else. On a more positive note, Pepsi One, the new entry in the Splenda-sweetened soda category, rocks. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 16:56:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QLtwWm001228 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:56:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:56:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00604C34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:55:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 211033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:55:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QLtwWr027579 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:55:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so88035nzp for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.91.2 with SMTP id o2mr11783nzb; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:55:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iJCqVmWL52oK6B/8gppdDSXws8yD9HRsWteBPAo0ZWCCp7EadVSx/mM2wLxibJT5kNS++v7MhQ30qdqmT/b9+iCp8TY6QescguvPvy+3jYBWIRKZHS9uspzybxxSpCpFJyi678UFh0al2w1XAAxv/LtmK9RZmUz4/paSV54coQI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050426145564f8c82d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:55:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: That reminds me, Janet In-Reply-To: <200504262114.j3QLE4LW019553@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504262114.j3QLE4LW019553@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3QLtwWm001228 On 4/26/05, Janet Hardy wrote: > > As may be. I tried taking her advice -- fixing myself three smallish, > balanced meals a > day, eating them slowly, giving up rich sweets for a few nibbles of good > chocolate, > etc. -- and gained three pounds in two weeks. I'm back to eating cold > pizza at the > computer until I think of something else. LOL! -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 17:52:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QMqdWm009819 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:52:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:52:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00604CC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:52:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:52:39 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QMqdE7003283 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:52:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.229]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426225239.TNVX2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:52:39 -0400 Message-ID: <426EC630.5020309@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:52:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Webcams References: <426D85E2.1060800@maynor.net> <426E2C25.4020905@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <426E2C25.4020905@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Lots of activity today ... and much disruption of normal foot traffic > flow. Oh well, it is all in the name of art. > > http://www.bc.edu/publications/atbc/webcams/oneill/ Looks windy. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 17:56:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QMuaWm010427 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:56:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:56:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00604CDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:56:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:56:35 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QMuZL3003815 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:56:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.229]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426225635.TPSY2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:56:35 -0400 Message-ID: <426EC71D.8030909@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:56:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More re the Bangkok Tailor References: <20050426130320.CDO3591.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> In-Reply-To: <20050426130320.CDO3591.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >Thanks for all the info. It will be interesting to see what we find. > > I'm surprised I haven't heard from the third of the three people I asked. He's the husband of the second person who replied -- the one who seemed unenthusiastic. He's in Japan, and she's in Starkville, so their e-mailing is on different schedules, but it's been time for both to have replied by now. I gathered from her wording that she had gotten her tailored stuff somewhere in Thailand other than Bangkok (which makes sense since they usually spend Christmas holidays in southern Thailand) but that he had gotten stuff made in Bangkok. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 17:59:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QMxhWm010889 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:59:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:59:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00604CEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:59:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:59:43 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QMxfD9004183 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:59:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.229]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426225941.TRBU2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:59:41 -0400 Message-ID: <426EC7D7.60406@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:59:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gone... References: <20050426131953.46464.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050426131953.46464.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >On Sat., Jaysie appeared from her sanctuary under the >deck with an inch of mulch and deck refuse riding on >her back. I had swept it through the cracks onto her >(not deliberately, of course). > > I love it! I think that I have finally succeeded in putting a baricade up that allows Spencer to go under the deck but not through the door into the crawl space. I hope so since he enjoys lying under the deck, but I do not want him thrashing around under the house doing no-telling-what to ducts and stuff. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 18:15:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QNFPWm013775 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:15:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:15:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00604DD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:09:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:09:32 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QN9WUw007638 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:09:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.229]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426230931.TVXV2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:09:31 -0400 Message-ID: <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:09:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >This reminds me of Alyce's tenant. > > Does anybody know what has become of him? I once had the url for his website but don't think I do anymore. I remember looking at it with interest. What's his last name? I remember that Ken is his first name but have forgotten his last name. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 18:15:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QNFPWm013776 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:15:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:15:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00604DCE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:08:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 218036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:08:13 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QN8D98007333 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:08:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.229]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426230813.TVHD2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:08:13 -0400 Message-ID: <426EC9D7.2030404@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:08:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with Greek? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >I have the Greek text from the Perseus website, but when I design the >shirt, I'll want to make sure that I've got everything right. Would >anyone be willing to check it out when it's done? > > I bet a certain 'wegian meeber might. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 18:15:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3QNFPWm013777 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:15:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:15:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00604EC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:05:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 217785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:05:25 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3QN5ONs006562 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:05:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.229]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050426230523.TTXA2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:05:23 -0400 Message-ID: <426EC92E.4080901@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:05:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: thoughts while washing windows References: <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <426D7D20.1080603@maynor.net> <426E55F4.7040003@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <426E55F4.7040003@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Why do people want to go to a tailor in Bangkok? Because of cheapness? > Their skills? (As much as I could grab from other messages of this > thread not for their local or native styles?) I don't really know much about it, not being much into clothes, but I think it's probably a combination of high quality and reasonable prices -- iow, you can get something really great for less money than it would take you to get something really great elsewhere. I do know that my friend Richard, the person who recommended his Bangkok tailor highly, has some gorgeous shirts that he had made there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 19:44:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R0iVWm025348 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:44:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:44:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006050F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:44:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 223008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:44:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3R0YTrr021202 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:34:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 36901 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Apr 2005 00:34:28 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:34:28 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: an intriguing invitation Message-ID: <20050427003428.GA35444@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good example of the horribleness I was talking about! On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 03:37:18PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I can always count on you to be the only one to notice. > > BrP > > >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/26/2005 3:20:44 PM >>> > > You are a horrible person. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 19:46:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R0k8Wm025621 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:46:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:46:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00604F3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:46:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 223150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:46:08 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3R0a7SU021472 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:36:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 37327 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Apr 2005 00:36:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:36:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: an intriguing invitation Message-ID: <20050427003607.GB35444@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050426130956.00b52c58@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050426130956.00b52c58@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU God, lying like this is contemptible. This guy attributed an Abbott and Costello joke to Laurel and Hardy. On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:10:10PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > We love you anyway! > > Betty > > At 03:37 PM 4/26/2005 -0400, you wrote: > >I can always count on you to be the only one to notice. > > > >BrP > > > >>>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 4/26/2005 3:20:44 PM >>> > > > > You are a horrible person. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 21:07:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R26uWm002761 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:06:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:07:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00605D60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:06:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:06:28 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3R26R3m004175 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:06:27 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005042702062601400ltrt2e>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 02:06:26 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Visiting Sweden Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:06:26 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I love pickled herring in cream sauce with onions! YUM-MO! > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com Why doesn't the cream sauce make you want to horf? I love it, too. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 21:18:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R2ITWm003747 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:18:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:18:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00605E01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:18:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:18:28 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3R2IRHH005600 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:18:28 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005042702182701300ebucle>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 02:18:27 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: That reminds me, Janet Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:18:26 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <200504262114.j3QLE4LW019553@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > giving up rich sweets for a few nibbles > of good chocolate, I have endured "good" dark chocolate for 3 years now. I hate dark chocolate. Whoever thinks it's satisfying instead of other things is full of shit. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Apr 26 22:14:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R3EZWm009953 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:14:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:14:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00606083@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:14:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:14:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3R3EWfc013029 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:14:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so145320nzp for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.8 with SMTP id m8mr21977nzb; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:14:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ls9HGykJNHekPu55Le5DoHwajH7N4yuW0ea2ZUvvI6TbvNCoppwOWHWNZKmsUTJef2o5Z8LS8qLHItQIJuHQw/MJiUMZBDxvS2mA8ElKWLHbm6ZtJpSNqJ+IpxTJDCWoOQ6eBL66fvoWLOtvB0w6+Xo0Um3oqi8oBd4ePZacoz0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:14:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3R3EZWm009953 The website was kenartist.com , I think. On 4/26/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >This reminds me of Alyce's tenant. > > > > > Does anybody know what has become of him? I once had the url for his > website but don't think I do anymore. I remember looking at it with > interest. What's his last name? I remember that Ken is his first name > but have forgotten his last name. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 00:57:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R5utWm031772 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 00:56:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 00:57:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006065E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 1:56:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:56:55 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3R5ufgf032685 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:56:41 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2D7AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 1:56:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200504270556.j3R5ufgf032685@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:56:41 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: That reminds me, Janet To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:18:26 -0400, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> giving up rich sweets for a few nibbles >> of good chocolate, > >I have endured "good" dark chocolate for 3 years now. I hate dark chocolate. >Whoever thinks it's satisfying instead of other things is full of shit. Well, I can eat a square of it instead of a Snickers bar, and by the time I finish the square I don't want the Snickers bar any more. But I wouldn't say I like it more than the Snickers bar; I don't. It's sort of homeopathic chocolate. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 02:00:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R6xtWm007212 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:59:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 02:00:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006066B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 2:59:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 02:59:55 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3R6xrSx008061 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 02:59:54 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3R6xqbB015101 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:59:52 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3R6xqxN015099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:59:52 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:59:52 +0200 To: words-l Subject: B&C Message-ID: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good Morning!! Either there was something in the airport coffee, or relaxed retirees on their vacation are good for the soul. I just had a nice hour or so at Schiphol with bonniev and cwv who are on their way to Bergen. We stepped outside and got some pictures in the typical Dutch weather in front of the typical Dutch tulips. And then I sent them off into duty free heaven. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 03:23:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R8NDWm017121 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:23:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:23:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060667B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 4:23:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:23:12 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3R8NBGN016182 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:23:12 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042710213525789 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:21:35 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:23:10 +0200 Message-ID: <426F4BEE.4070403@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:23:10 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: UK airports References: <39D867B4-B673-11D9-8024-00039383D034@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <39D867B4-B673-11D9-8024-00039383D034@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2005 08:23:10.0458 (UTC) FILETIME=[58F7CDA0:01C54B02] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Roy Jaques skrev 26.04.2005 18:49: > > So what would you do, Paris or Manchester ? I know what I would do! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 03:24:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R8O2Wm017174 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:24:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:24:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060672D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 4:24:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:24:02 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3R8O0p9016243 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:24:01 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042710222525793 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:22:25 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:24:00 +0200 Message-ID: <426F4C1F.6000901@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:23:59 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with Greek? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2005 08:24:00.0287 (UTC) FILETIME=[76AB1AF0:01C54B02] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky skrev 26.04.2005 19:41: >Our vendor just introduced a fancy new product called "Corinthian" for >high-end customers, but they haven't implemented many of the requests >that their dedicated but poorer customers have been asking for. > >So I want to make T-shirts for the next convention that quote >Aristophanes' "Plutus", which says something like "And what about >those Corinthian whores? They won't give a poor man the time of day, >but if he's rich, they'll bend over in an instant!" > >I have the Greek text from the Perseus website, but when I design the >shirt, I'll want to make sure that I've got everything right. Would >anyone be willing to check it out when it's done? > > I will, Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 03:25:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R8PRWm017326 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:25:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:25:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060667C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 4:25:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:25:27 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3R8PQmn016333 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:25:26 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042710235025803 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:23:50 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:25:25 +0200 Message-ID: <426F4C75.9010406@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:25:25 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Can anyone help me with Greek? References: <035d01c54a89$3db08240$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <035d01c54a89$3db08240$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2005 08:25:25.0742 (UTC) FILETIME=[A99A80E0:01C54B02] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild skrev 26.04.2005 19:56: > Have you been to babelfish with it? > > http://babelfish.altavista.com/ > > I don't know how this will transpose through the listserv, so I sent > this to > you personally too... it is what babelfish spat forth: > > Και τι γίνεται με εκείνες τις κοÏινθιακές πόÏνες; Δεν θα δώσουν σε ένα > φτωχό > άτομο το χÏόνο της ημέÏας, αλλά εάν πλοÏσιοι, αυτοί θα κάμψει σε μια > στιγμή! > And as expected, babelfish tried to translate it into Modern Greek. A Aristophanes quote should be given in Classical Greek (which is what you find at Perseus). Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 03:48:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3R8miWm020366 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:48:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:48:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00606573@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 4:28:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:28:43 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3R8Sg4R016620 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 04:28:42 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042710270625817 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:27:06 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:28:41 +0200 Message-ID: <426F4D39.4040501@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:28:41 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: B&C References: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2005 08:28:41.0607 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E592170:01C54B03] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph skrev 27.04.2005 08:59: >Good Morning!! > >Either there was something in the airport coffee, or relaxed retirees on >their vacation are good for the soul. I just had a nice hour or so at >Schiphol with bonniev and cwv who are on their way to Bergen. We >stepped outside and got some pictures in the typical Dutch weather in >front of the typical Dutch tulips. And then I sent them off into >duty free heaven. > > > And I hope they feel a vurtual welcome from me when they get to Bergen! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 06:50:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RBokWm017829 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:50:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:50:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F2DD94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 7:50:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:50:45 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RBojDL028440 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:50:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.196.155]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050427115045.MQPU2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:50:45 -0400 Message-ID: <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:50:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >The website was kenartist.com , I think. > > Thanks. But it's gone now, if that was it. :-( -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 09:57:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3REvAWm006856 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:57:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:57:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2E679@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:57:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:57:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3REv9o3002775 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:57:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so289369nzp for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.20 with SMTP id t20mr46917nzt; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:57:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EWCbbOFbuhG63Du8kl3ENzR98KS7DzRas7VW8EGK+Ob4IyAc7+Ggy/bvOTscVOZ7qZ2dBDSZ97X/KR+JDpf/nloc+oe6IDzmunMsMfVpPR/laDZiTk/6gli5z9nz5kUeszOJNFsI2x2ZUMFyKa8zgaq6TE2RHdMzUpqxwOCPmbc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504270757146819d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:57:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? In-Reply-To: <200504262117.j3QLH767020033@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504262117.j3QLH767020033@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3REvAWm006856 On 4/26/05, Janet Hardy wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:38:34 -0500, A Friend of Andy > > wrote: > > >On 4/26/05, Janet Hardy <verdie@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> > >> Somewhere between. These days I'm mostly reading memoirs and > personal > >> essays > >> -- they seem to best scratch my reading itch. > > > > > >Did you read the Lauren Bacall book? > > No; is it any good? That one, and the Jane Fonda one, strike me as things > to get > from the library someday, but not in any big hurry. Probably. The only person I know who's read it read an autographed copy--she's kind of a Bacall freak. I've been moving slowly through > J.D. Salinger's daughter's memoirs during hiatuses between other books -- > beautifully written, but rather dark, and hence slow going. Sounds more interesting than Jane Fonda. I also recently reread the > collected essays of E.B. White, which make me feel that I never want to > write > anything again because I'm never going to be a tenth that good. > You mentioned this, and it made me laugh. I have had that feeling before. -- Karen "I like conservatives. They're opposed to all questionable adventures abroad and for fiscal prudence and responsibility. It's right-wing nuts I can't stand." -- Molly Ivins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 10:18:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RFIqWm009384 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:18:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:18:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060720B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:18:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:18:51 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RFIolm008573 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:18:51 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 98280506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:18:50 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050427081804.00ba3a78@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:18:47 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: B&C In-Reply-To: <426FAB3F.1060308@gmail.com> References: <426F4D39.4040501@gmail.com> <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> <426F4D39.4040501@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:09 PM 4/27/2005 +0200, you wrote: >Espen S. Ore skrev 27.04.2005 10:28: > >>steph skrev 27.04.2005 08:59: >> >>>Good Morning!! >>> >>>Either there was something in the airport coffee, or relaxed retirees on >>>their vacation are good for the soul. I just had a nice hour or so at >>>Schiphol with bonniev and cwv who are on their way to Bergen. We >>>stepped outside and got some pictures in the typical Dutch weather in >>>front of the typical Dutch tulips. And then I sent them off into >>>duty free heaven. >>> >>> >>And I hope they feel a vurtual welcome from me when they get to Bergen! > >virtual! > >This misspelling is probably because I find it too bad that I can >probably not get to Bergen when they are there this time too. > >Espen - off almost to the Polar Circle tomorrow Oh, I'm sure they will be disappointed, too. Maybe when they take the cruise in the summer! BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 10:20:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RFK3Wm009480 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:20:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:20:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F2E7DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:10:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:09:53 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3RF9qYb006276 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:09:53 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042717081629909 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:08:16 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:09:51 +0200 Message-ID: <426FAB3F.1060308@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:09:51 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: B&C References: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> <426F4D39.4040501@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <426F4D39.4040501@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2005 15:09:51.0881 (UTC) FILETIME=[29597790:01C54B3B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore skrev 27.04.2005 10:28: > steph skrev 27.04.2005 08:59: > >> Good Morning!! >> >> Either there was something in the airport coffee, or relaxed retirees on >> their vacation are good for the soul. I just had a nice hour or so at >> Schiphol with bonniev and cwv who are on their way to Bergen. We >> stepped outside and got some pictures in the typical Dutch weather in >> front of the typical Dutch tulips. And then I sent them off into >> duty free heaven. >> >> >> > And I hope they feel a vurtual welcome from me when they get to Bergen! virtual! This misspelling is probably because I find it too bad that I can probably not get to Bergen when they are there this time too. Espen - off almost to the Polar Circle tomorrow From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 10:27:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RFRpWm010265 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:27:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:27:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F2E94C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:27:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 302894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:27:50 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3RFRnMb011102 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:27:49 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042717261230171 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:26:12 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:27:46 +0200 Message-ID: <426FAF72.1030506@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:27:46 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: B&C References: <426F4D39.4040501@gmail.com> <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> <426F4D39.4040501@gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050427081804.00ba3a78@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050427081804.00ba3a78@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2005 15:27:46.0993 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA2A8A10:01C54B3D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark skrev 27.04.2005 17:18: > At 05:09 PM 4/27/2005 +0200, you wrote: > >> Espen S. Ore skrev 27.04.2005 10:28: >> >>> And I hope they feel a vurtual welcome from me when they get to Bergen! >> >> >> virtual! >> >> This misspelling is probably because I find it too bad that I can >> probably not get to Bergen when they are there this time too. >> >> Espen - off almost to the Polar Circle tomorrow > > > Oh, I'm sure they will be disappointed, too. Maybe when they take the > cruise in the summer! > Or if they find time to come closer to Oslo - it is an 8 hour drive from Oslo to Bergen. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 11:07:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RG7DWm018640 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:07:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:07:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00607357@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:39:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:39:33 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RFdXkx013607 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:39:33 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17734328 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:40:04 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:39:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:37:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1655578414.20050427093729@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <200504260002.j3Q02ptb016825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504260002.j3Q02ptb016825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 180, in=73902, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/25/2005, 6:02 PM, Janet Hardy wrote: JH> Well, he worked as an extra on all the shows this season after last night's, JH> so there will be other opportunities. But as I recall, you don't get HBO -- JH> or do I have that wrong? If you do, they'll be rerunning it several times JH> this week, HBO-style -- watch for the guy in the derby hat behind the naked JH> miner who's running down the hill. Don't blink. Not only does Natalie not have HBO, but she'd be too busy looking at the naked guy running down the hill to get shot. And see that my question in earlier email has been answered above. And all the other naked stud muffins. Not. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 11:07:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RG7DWn018639 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:07:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:07:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00607379@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:06:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:06:19 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RG6IUM019709 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:06:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17633273 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:21:00 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:06:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:04:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <266984631.20050427100414@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 180, in=61422, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/26/2005, 4:58 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> I am not exactly a longtime Chicago resident, but someone DMH> who uses "773" to mean the city--man, that's just pathetic. And if it were a long time resident, they'd say 312 anyway. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 11:07:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RG7DWm018636 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:07:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:07:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00607356@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:02:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:02:04 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RG24Yb018280 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:02:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17741125 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:02:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:02:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:00:00 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <982642571.20050427100000@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: radio In-Reply-To: <200504260158.j3Q1wYGG030801@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504260158.j3Q1wYGG030801@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 180, in=73923, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/25/2005, 7:58 PM, Janet Hardy wrote: JH> No radio here (except the little one in the clock radio upstairs). If I want JH> music, I listen to one of the all-music stations on DirecTV. I dislike JH> listening to talk radio. Sounds like me in all respects...except for me it is on DishNetwork instead of DirecTV (despite several friends who work for their gigantic Boise Call Center). I do NOT listen to talk radio, NPR or otherwise. I do listen to "regular radio" in the car, except if on a long trip listen more to CDs. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 11:07:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RG7DWm018639 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:07:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:07:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060718D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:37:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:37:12 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RFbAAH013054 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:37:12 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17624690 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:51:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:37:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:35:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1217217603.20050427093506@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <426D8207.6070701@maynor.net> References: <200504252035.j3PKZqdo018055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426D8207.6070701@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 180, in=61393, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Having just watched that Deadwood episode, what was he? Just one of the guys in a bar, or on the street? 4/25/2005, 5:49 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> He >>also showed up for about two seconds in "Deadwood" last night (I had to >> >> NM> I've never watched either of them but would have done so if I'd known I NM> might see him. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 11:08:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RG8lWm018903 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:08:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:08:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060738C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:08:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:08:47 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RG8lYU020402 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:08:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17881437 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:09:07 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:09:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:06:41 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <993340209.20050427100641@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Webcams In-Reply-To: <426E2C25.4020905@bc.edu> References: <426D85E2.1060800@maynor.net> <426E2C25.4020905@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 178, in=60060, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/26/2005, 5:55 AM, Rita Leonard wrote: RL> In other minimally related news, I was listening to talk about requiring RL> Indiana to adopt daylight savings time on NPR this morning. Evidently, RL> not doing so results in truck drivers making mistakes in their logs. Good grief. First, they can deal with it. Second, only HALF of Indiana avoids daylight time. In the winter the state is split between time zones. In the summer the state is all on one time...namely CDT or EST. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 11:18:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RGHwWm019919 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:17:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:18:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006073D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:17:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 308084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:17:57 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RGHvf8022300 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:17:57 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17636919 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:32:39 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:18:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:15:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <424484171.20050427101553@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <20050426135522.GA20676@words-l.org> References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> <426E2AF5.20109@maynor.net> <20050426135522.GA20676@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 180, in=61436, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/26/2005, 7:55 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> What's 773 -- the area code? DMH> Yes. True, theoretically it covers a large part of the metropolitan DMH> area now. But 312 is the one that bears the meaning. Actually not. 312 is the old original one for Chicago. But it now is central city, the loop and environs. Rest of CITY is 773. 773 does not extend to suburbs, which are 847 north, 630 west, and 708 south. Originally before the "new area codes" (i.e. without zero or one as the middle digit) the suburbs were all 708. 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To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:35:06 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >Having just watched that Deadwood episode, what was he? Just one of >the guys in a bar, or on the street? One of the marshals standing guard over the miners who were showering the gold dust out of their hair. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 13:50:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RIoOWm008719 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:50:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:50:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060792B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:50:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 322685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:50:23 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3RIeMv0008711 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:40:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 98510 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Apr 2005 18:40:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:40:22 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! Message-ID: <20050427184022.GA96315@words-l.org> References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> <426E2AF5.20109@maynor.net> <20050426135522.GA20676@words-l.org> <424484171.20050427101553@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <424484171.20050427101553@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 10:15:53AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/26/2005, 7:55 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> What's 773 -- the area code? > > DMH> Yes. True, theoretically it covers a large part of the metropolitan > DMH> area now. But 312 is the one that bears the meaning. > > Actually not. 312 is the old original one for Chicago. But it > now is central city, the loop and environs. Rest of CITY is 773. 773 > does not extend to suburbs, which are 847 north, 630 west, and 708 > south. Originally before the "new area codes" (i.e. without zero or > one as the middle digit) the suburbs were all 708. > > But yes 312 bears the meaning to "old timers". Since you agree with me, WTF does the "actually not" mean? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 15:03:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RK3nWm019821 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:03:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:03:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00607A10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:03:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 330408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:03:48 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RK3lQ3025541 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:03:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 17993460 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:29:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:04:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:01:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <563143437.20050427140143@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 176, in=62993, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/26/2005, 5:09 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Does anybody know what has become of him? I once had the url for his NM> website but don't think I do anymore. I remember looking at it with NM> interest. What's his last name? I remember that Ken is his first name NM> but have forgotten his last name. Why don't you just google for it? Should be a simple enough search. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 15:07:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RK7pWm020178 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:07:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:07:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00607BF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:07:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 330868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:07:50 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RK7o8x026297 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:07:50 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17840504 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:08:23 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:08:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:05:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.667000 Suspicious proportion of text in CAPS=1.0,Subject has many exclamations=0.7 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 181, in=74096, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 5:50 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> A Friend of Andy wrote: >>The website was kenartist.com , I think. >> >> NM> Thanks. But it's gone now, if that was it. :-( Yeah....but maybe he's in Germantown....or Van Nuys. Registrant: Kenartist 6920 Sepulveda Blvd. #116 Van Nuys, CA 91405 US Phone: (518) 537-4249 Fax: 999 999 9999 Domain Name: KENARTIST.COM Administrative Contact : Klammer, Kenneth kenartist@EARTHLINK.NET 641 COUNTY ROUTE 8 GERMANTOWN, NY 12526-5419 US Phone: (518) 537-4249 Fax: 999 999 9999 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 15:09:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RK9rWm020425 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:09:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:09:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00607A41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:09:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 331006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:09:52 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RK9peF026580 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:09:52 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17704989 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:24:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:10:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:07:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1202270496.20050427140740@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <20050427184022.GA96315@words-l.org> References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> <426E2AF5.20109@maynor.net> <20050426135522.GA20676@words-l.org> <424484171.20050427101553@gailndan.com> <20050427184022.GA96315@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 180, in=61583, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 12:40 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 10:15:53AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >> 4/26/2005, 7:55 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >> >> What's 773 -- the area code? >> >> DMH> Yes. True, theoretically it covers a large part of the metropolitan >> DMH> area now. But 312 is the one that bears the meaning. >> >> Actually not. 312 is the old original one for Chicago. But it >> now is central city, the loop and environs. Rest of CITY is 773. 773 >> does not extend to suburbs, which are 847 north, 630 west, and 708 >> south. Originally before the "new area codes" (i.e. without zero or >> one as the middle digit) the suburbs were all 708. >> >> But yes 312 bears the meaning to "old timers". DMH> Since you agree with me, WTF does the "actually not" mean? That 773 does not "cover a lorge part of the metropolitan area". It does cover a large part of the city itself, however. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 15:15:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RKF6Wm020908 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:15:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:15:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00607C20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:15:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 331573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:15:05 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RKF5Fd027679 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:15:05 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2F6A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:15:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200504272015.j3RKF5Fd027679@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:15:05 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Casting (Day)Light on the Matter To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Good grief. First, they can deal with it. Second, only HALF of >Indiana avoids daylight time. In the winter the state is split >between time zones. In the summer the state is all on one >time...namely CDT or EST. > >dan Might I respectfully submit material from which to infer a few amendments to that observation? See here: http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/general/daylightsavingtime.html http://www.infoplease.com/spot/daylight1.html http://www.energy.ca.gov/daylightsaving.html Amy, whose path has serendipitously avoided DST more often than not the past 25 years ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 15:30:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RKUnWm022850 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:30:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:30:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00607BCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:30:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 332792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:30:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RKUmnV030197 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:30:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so393752nzp for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.14 with SMTP id o14mr65564nzo; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:30:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ejrfprqT4XWaAQCzpaV1iE8Qx1PfDxCFQriUjog3So+zPfyjsoTM/Ex2ZrmC6H/Emi9yo+H/W66yFo3Lfp/O0c/Hj+F4uIdn4YxcGfLtORBF+uQEg3SI5BvC8OBMYPNOvhgHJRil95V7eiIjQTDBUQfrp7IWBZGp7GMIuvzUtwI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:30:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3RKUnWm022850 On 4/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > Yeah....but maybe he's in Germantown....or Van Nuys. He had moved to California when Alyce was still alive. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 16:08:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RL8OWm027287 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:08:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:08:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00607D09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:08:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 334970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:08:24 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RKwOxN001478 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:58:24 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3RKw0sn002524 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:58:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:58:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: 'regular radio'? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I do NOT listen to talk radio, NPR or otherwise. I do listen to "regular radio" in the car< What is 'regular radio'? It has been decades since I listened to any radio other than NPR. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 16:21:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RLLGWm028633 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:21:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:21:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00607EC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:21:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:21:15 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RLLETV005172 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:21:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18006278 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:47:20 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:21:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:19:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <117225780.20050427151906@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Casting (Day)Light on the Matter In-Reply-To: <200504272015.j3RKF5Fd027679@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504272015.j3RKF5Fd027679@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 176, in=63057, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 2:15 PM, Mrs. Williams wrote: >>Good grief. First, they can deal with it. Second, only HALF of >>Indiana avoids daylight time. In the winter the state is split >>between time zones. In the summer the state is all on one >>time...namely CDT or EST. >> >>dan MW> Might I respectfully submit material from which to infer a few amendments MW> to that observation? MW> See here: MW> http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/general/daylightsavingtime.html MW> http://www.infoplease.com/spot/daylight1.html Under the current system, 77 of the state's 92 counties are in the Eastern Time Zone but do not change to daylight time in April. Instead they remain on standard time all year. That is, except for two counties near Cincinnati, Ohio, and Louisville, Ky., which do use daylight time. Above paragraph quoted from your second source above...which confirms what I said. Interesting added info on Canada (which is also inconsistent) and Mexico (which apparently is consistent) dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 16:22:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RLLwWm028723 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:21:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:22:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F2FA23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:21:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:21:56 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RLLuMM005366 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:21:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18006357 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:48:02 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:22:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:19:42 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 176, in=63058, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 2:30 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> Yeah....but maybe he's in Germantown....or Van Nuys. AFoA> He had moved to California when Alyce was still alive. Well, that would make the first place to try rather obvious. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 16:23:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RLN1Wm028849 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:23:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:23:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00607EF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:23:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:23:00 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RLN0b6005524 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:23:00 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2FA2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:23:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200504272123.j3RLN0b6005524@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:23:00 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: 'regular radio'? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:58:23 -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>I do NOT listen to talk radio, NPR or otherwise. I do listen to >"regular radio" in the car< > >What is 'regular radio'? It has been decades since I listened to any radio >other than NPR. > >Bethany For many people, it's NPR. Me, I WANNA ROCK! http://www.kcdx.com/about.php Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 16:23:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RLN1Wn028849 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:23:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:23:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00607E43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:23:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:23:05 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RLN4pk005543 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:23:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17715383 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:37:48 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:23:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:20:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1449580032.20050427152055@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'regular radio'? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 180, in=61647, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 2:58 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>I do NOT listen to talk radio, NPR or otherwise. I do listen to BKD> "regular radio" in the car< BKD> What is 'regular radio'? It has been decades since I listened to any radio BKD> other than NPR. To me it means music (type depending on station, of course) interspersed with commercials, and perhaps news every hour, or not. And perhaps with "drive time traffic reports". And that's the main reason I listen to regular radio locally, so I know which roads to avoid. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 16:27:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RLRkWm029349 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:27:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:27:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00607E54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:27:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:27:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RLRksA006442 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:27:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so409120nzp for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.9 with SMTP id h9mr68069nzb; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Yxg1OTaJFxpHb47bGP5IrkGZFxKG53JHTuQnviPD69y3iUerRaGnAAO2bWE61nmI5T5L9+Fb3Gd49qp0+84gWAUrR8IR9ggy18SuFlZvkUsIaCuSSUkoA8JnqR/LT25x63j2fx8Npg6FXjldL7sHSp5sRLEuhKPwXNFUy3YjoYQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042714273c0e285b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:27:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3RLRkWm029349 Try for what? On 4/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/27/2005, 2:30 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> > >> Yeah....but maybe he's in Germantown....or Van Nuys. > > AFoA> He had moved to California when Alyce was still alive. > > Well, that would make the first place to try rather obvious. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 16:33:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RLXcWm030460 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:33:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:33:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00607F13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:33:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:33:37 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RLXb0c007181 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:33:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 17988410 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:32:37 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:32:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:30:05 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <712692552.20050427153005@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042714273c0e285b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042714273c0e285b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 178, in=60290, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU To try to contact him if anyone were interested in doing so. Isn't that intuitively obvious to the most casual observer? Well, I guess not. dan 4/27/2005, 3:27 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Try for what? AFoA> On 4/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: >> >> 4/27/2005, 2:30 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Yeah....but maybe he's in Germantown....or Van Nuys. >> >> AFoA> He had moved to California when Alyce was still alive. >> >> Well, that would make the first place to try rather obvious. >> From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 16:48:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RLmeWm032224 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:48:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:48:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00607F36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:48:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:48:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RLmdwC009022 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:48:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so414011nzp for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr69044nzt; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:48:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pAcAv1RPsBlRRuXtGLmTE2vNrOIYsXKCFZ/h9NyvPpFkfWDs51O4t4mYe4I9fPwgIjY67Z6WHoDQixzeoJ9SQH9nF/zRRcI2e9WGUIKpgOXDe5LO10ZeHFx/uZIb5KxMMECEbpSBKQ42fplLKI2YCME3Fy0NAWP6O75jMZcjJ/w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050427144820f41176@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:48:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <712692552.20050427153005@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042714273c0e285b@mail.gmail.com> <712692552.20050427153005@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3RLmeWm032224 On 4/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > To try to contact him if anyone were interested in doing so. Isn't > that intuitively obvious to the most casual observer? > > Well, I guess not. > AFAIK, contacting him was never a goal. I certainly have no intention of doing so. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 18:17:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RNH5Wm009361 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:17:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:17:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00608261@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:17:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:17:05 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RNH5bV023692 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:17:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.38]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050427231704.GVKW2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:17:04 -0400 Message-ID: <42701D6F.7050109@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:17:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> <266984631.20050427100414@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <266984631.20050427100414@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >DMH> I am not exactly a longtime Chicago resident, but someone >DMH> who uses "773" to mean the city--man, that's just pathetic. > >And if it were a long time resident, they'd say 312 anyway. > > Would 773 have been my area code at U of Chicago in '80? It sounds familiar. I bet it was. Re long-time residents (or in this case a newcomer who was an old-timer) I sometimes am amused at the stuff about Jackson that flops up into my brain and out of my mouth, surprising some of the long-time residents who aren't long-enough-time residents to know what I'm talking about. Like recently I was talking to some church friends about having finally found the time/temperature phone number (that I had asked them about the previous week but nobody knew). Somebody said, "What is it?" I said, "I don't remember the whole number, but it was a Fleetwood number." The two or three people all looked mystified. When I saw the 355 in the phone number, I automatically thought "Fleetwood." Sort of like 366 means "Emerson" to me. It was many, many years ago that Fleetwood, Emerson, and Drake (I knew nobody in Drake Land) went away. Now the prefixes don't have anything to do with where you live -- except that Old-Timers in Belhaven would have 355 numbers and Old-Timers in Fondren would have 366 numbers. And I requested a 366 number because I didn't want to have to remember as many numbers. I knew (from switchboard.com) that my childhood number had been taken but thought I could get 366 plus the last 4 digits of my Starkville number since switchboard.com didn't show it as taken. But it was. The nice BellSouth man told me that I'd have more choices of last 4 digits if I didn't want 366 since there weren't many 366 numbers available. But I told him that I couldn't imagine moving back to Jackson and not having 366. So he found an easy one for me to remember, as long as I didn't mind counting backwards. I told him I didn't. So I got 366-9877. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 18:22:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RNM7Wm009952 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:22:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:22:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F2FFE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:22:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:22:06 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RNM51Z024791 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:22:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.38]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050427232204.HANH2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:22:04 -0400 Message-ID: <42701E9B.5090305@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:22:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <563143437.20050427140143@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <563143437.20050427140143@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> Does anybody know what has become of him? I once had the url for his >NM> website but don't think I do anymore. I remember looking at it with >NM> interest. What's his last name? I remember that Ken is his first name >NM> but have forgotten his last name. > >Why don't you just google for it? Should be a simple enough search. > > Sure. Googling for "ken" is quite easy. Gleaning anything useful from a google for "ken" is another thing. I'm reminded of my search for a childhood neighbor who moved to Georgia when we were in late elementary school or early junior high. His name was Jimmy Carter. I got lots of hits when googling for Jimmy Carter in Georgia. Still haven't found my Jimmy, though. And I bet I would get quite a few more hits for ken than for jimmy carter georgia. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 18:24:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RNOjWm010185 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:24:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:24:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00608286@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:24:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:24:45 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RNOiSA025260 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:24:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.38]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050427232444.HDIX2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:24:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:24:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Yeah....but maybe he's in Germantown....or Van Nuys. > > Much more useful is the possibility of a last name: Klammer. Will search later. Need to zip through the rest of mail first. Interesting fax number, btw. > Registrant: > Kenartist > 6920 Sepulveda Blvd. #116 > Van Nuys, CA 91405 > US > Phone: (518) 537-4249 > Fax: 999 999 9999 > > Domain Name: KENARTIST.COM > > Administrative Contact : > Klammer, Kenneth > kenartist@EARTHLINK.NET > 641 COUNTY ROUTE 8 > GERMANTOWN, NY 12526-5419 > US > Phone: (518) 537-4249 > Fax: 999 999 9999 > > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 18:27:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3RNRUWm010421 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:27:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:27:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00608183@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:27:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:27:26 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3RNRQnk025720 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:27:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.38]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050427232725.HFTP2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:27:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42701FDC.7020609@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:27:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'regular radio'? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >What is 'regular radio'? It has been decades since I listened to any radio >other than NPR. > > I don't know the exact definition of "regular radio," but did I mention here my discovery of a really great jazz station in Jackson? I remember mentioning it in e-mail but don't remember whether it was here. It's the Jackson State University station and is really, really good. I've started switching back and forth between it and MPB (formerly PRM) in my car, plus every once in a while switching to the oldies station. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 19:32:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3S0W8Wm021044 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:32:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:32:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00608347@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:32:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 353500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:32:08 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3S0M8vW032099 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:22:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 43126 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Apr 2005 00:22:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:22:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! Message-ID: <20050428002207.GA41900@words-l.org> References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> <426E2AF5.20109@maynor.net> <20050426135522.GA20676@words-l.org> <424484171.20050427101553@gailndan.com> <20050427184022.GA96315@words-l.org> <1202270496.20050427140740@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1202270496.20050427140740@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 02:07:40PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/27/2005, 12:40 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 10:15:53AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > >> 4/26/2005, 7:55 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> > >> >> What's 773 -- the area code? > >> > >> DMH> Yes. True, theoretically it covers a large part of the metropolitan > >> DMH> area now. But 312 is the one that bears the meaning. > >> > >> Actually not. 312 is the old original one for Chicago. But it > >> now is central city, the loop and environs. Rest of CITY is 773. 773 > >> does not extend to suburbs, which are 847 north, 630 west, and 708 > >> south. Originally before the "new area codes" (i.e. without zero or > >> one as the middle digit) the suburbs were all 708. > >> > >> But yes 312 bears the meaning to "old timers". > > DMH> Since you agree with me, WTF does the "actually not" mean? > > That 773 does not "cover a lorge part of the metropolitan area". It > does cover a large part of the city itself, however. When I said metropolitan area, I meant the city. What else does it mean? "Chicagoland"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 19:48:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3S0mEWm023036 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:48:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:48:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060843A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:48:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:48:13 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3S0mDf9002920 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:48:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.129.63]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050428004814.RGRT2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:48:14 -0400 Message-ID: <427032CC.2060807@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:48:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Much more useful is the possibility of a last name: Klammer. Will > search later. And I did, but alas I couldn't find anything current. I found his Germantown info linked from some kind of general art site, but his link in Germantown was dead. And I found no trace of him in the LA vicinity. I have a feeling that his movie career might not have taken off. I'm glad we (the Snowbashers who visited Alyce) got to meet him. And I'm very, very glad we visited Alyce. One of these days I'm going to drive through Germantown and look at her house. I wonder who bought it and what it's like now. And I'm suddenly remembering now that Ken and I walked along the ravine in the backyard, talking about various plants and stuff. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 19:49:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3S0nVWm023222 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:49:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:49:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060838C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:49:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:49:31 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3S0nVFM003101 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:49:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.129.63]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050428004931.RHPZ2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:49:31 -0400 Message-ID: <42703319.8040306@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:49:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> <427032CC.2060807@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <427032CC.2060807@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > and I walked along the ravine in the backyard, talking about various > plants and stuff. Speaking of such, how are the various Alyce plants doing that various of you planted? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 20:06:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3S16UWm025852 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:06:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:06:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006083EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:06:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 355128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:06:30 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3S0uTve003889 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:56:29 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3S0tk02018497 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:56:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:56:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: bad joke Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam: Good dark chocolate is WON-DER-FUL! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 20:29:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3S1TXWm028889 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:29:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:29:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006083F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:09:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 355279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:09:32 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3S0xW4x004189 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:59:32 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3S0x8iY020819 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:59:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:59:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: radio Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: BKD> What is 'regular radio'? It has been decades since I listened to any radio BKD> other than NPR. To me it means music (type depending on station, of course) interspersed with commercials, and perhaps news every hour, or not. And perhaps with "drive time traffic reports". And that's the main reason I listen to regular radio locally, so I know which roads to avoid. --- Interesting. To me, the best music is on NPR - and also good news and the occasional entertainment show like Car Talk. I especially like the classical music (especially the frequent classical guitar pieces) and the hours of jazz. But I must correct my statement. I said that it has been decades since I listened to any radio other than NPR - I also occasionally listen to the Voice of the Vols during football season - not yet on NPR. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Apr 27 20:34:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3S1YGWm029371 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:34:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:34:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00608473@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:34:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 356731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:34:16 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3S1YGcO007891 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:34:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.129.63]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050428013416.SREL2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:34:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42703D96.9020509@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:34:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: radio References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >hours of jazz. > > For hours of jazz, I recommend WJSU, Jackson: http://redlasertech.com/wjsu/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 00:20:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3S5KOWm028211 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:20:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:20:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F30A4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 1:20:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:20:23 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3S5KJYZ002462 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:20:19 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F309FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 1:20:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200504280520.j3S5KJYZ002462@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:20:19 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: radio To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:59:31 -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Dan: > >BKD> What is 'regular radio'? It has been decades since I listened to any >radio >BKD> other than NPR. > >To me it means music (type depending on station, of course) >interspersed with commercials, and perhaps news every hour, or not. >And perhaps with "drive time traffic reports". And that's the main >reason I listen to regular radio locally, so I know which roads to >avoid. I, however, will listen to radio tomorrow am, because I am supposed to be on it... or some of the people at the local poetry reading, anyway. It was... an eclectic mix, as open mics tend to be. Interestingly, a person showed up for this particular Monday for the 1st time, who seemed to want to project a persona that was half "The Old Fisherman", Maryland breed, and half Northern Native (whatever that means). He recited stuff with a cadence that led me to believe he either memorized poems by the guy who wrote "Cremation of Sam McGee", or at least admired him a whole lot. It added spice to the night, I tall'ee. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 03:30:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3S8UQWm019281 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:30:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:30:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060945D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 4:30:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 378961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 04:30:25 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3S8UP0p023013 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 04:30:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so573817wri for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.106.15 with SMTP id e15mr860233wrc; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:30:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iT8uQdIU0nI6swatiwnnTw6O8/E6SvMctCe1D+qTr8PrHKMXoNi8LUuKtusYAF14x3aW7DXsDAf0KBihDILjcFyRQIK9Q4TOrpexI2qpBAgY4//YhbZcs+EXNcdE12g4Yh5S12DbuDjjKmXkbGaU0CLPQWq7qFqLxc7i0opt5LQ= Message-ID: <83db447a05042801303fd52486@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:30:24 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: B&C In-Reply-To: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3S8UQWm019281 On 4/27/05, steph wrote: > > Good Morning!! > > Either there was something in the airport coffee, or relaxed retirees on > their vacation are good for the soul. I just had a nice hour or so at > Schiphol with bonniev and cwv who are on their way to Bergen. We > stepped outside and got some pictures in the typical Dutch weather in > front of the typical Dutch tulips. And then I sent them off into > duty free heaven. It was a nice time, albeit a trifle short (I'm paraoid about missing planes, especially in another country). Roy, you were right in your description of Schiphol--it's a veritable maze of duty-free shops. Schiphol is a quantum leap over Manchester as a transit airport---very impressive. The remainder of the trip went well. Once again, Bergen was clear and sunny and mild---and the fresh shrimp sandwich at the fish market was great. After a good dinner, we caught up on our sleep and are into another clear, sunny day. We still don't think that it ever rains in Bergen. We board the ship at 1800. We'll check out of here at noon, wander around Bergen for while, probably ascend the Floyen, perhaps enjoy the azaleas (I think they are) at the lake. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 03:37:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3S8b2Wm019934 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:37:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 03:37:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060954C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 4:37:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 379093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 04:37:00 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3S8ax75023438 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 04:37:00 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005042810352300387 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:35:23 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:36:58 +0200 Message-ID: <4270A0A9.7010707@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:36:57 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: B&C References: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> <83db447a05042801303fd52486@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05042801303fd52486@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2005 08:36:58.0497 (UTC) FILETIME=[70EE4710:01C54BCD] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander skrev 28.04.2005 10:30: > > It was a nice time, albeit a trifle short (I'm paraoid about missing >planes, especially in another country). Roy, you were right in your >description of Schiphol--it's a veritable maze of duty-free shops. Schiphol >is a quantum leap over Manchester as a transit airport---very impressive. > The remainder of the trip went well. Once again, Bergen was clear and sunny >and mild---and the fresh shrimp sandwich at the fish market was great. After >a good dinner, we caught up on our sleep and are into another clear, sunny >day. We still don't think that it ever rains in Bergen. > > In 1987 (I believe that was the year) from January 1 to April 27 there was 5 hours of sunshine and three days with no rain at all in Bergen. > We board the ship at 1800. We'll check out of here at noon, wander around >Bergen for while, probably ascend the Floyen, perhaps enjoy the azaleas (I >think they are) at the lake. > > Down at the southern (or SSE) of the lake there is a rhododendrarium where there should be some flowers now. Bon voyage! I leave for Mo i Rana a little later today, and will change planes on my way back tomorrow evening in Trondheim - maybe you are not too far away from there at that time? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 04:51:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3S9pRWm006399 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 04:51:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 04:51:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F30D54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 5:51:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:51:27 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3S9pRMn002999 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:51:27 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:51:26 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:50:56 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: radio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The show is available now online at http://tinyurl.com/8tj5j BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 04/28/05 1:20 AM >>> I, however, will listen to radio tomorrow am, because I am supposed to be on it... or some of the people at the local poetry reading, anyway. It was... an eclectic mix, as open mics tend to be. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 07:27:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SCRSWm030677 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:27:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:27:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00609C40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 8:27:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:27:27 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SCRQOT009152 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:27:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.196]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050428122726.KYYE2148.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:27:26 -0400 Message-ID: <4270D6A7.4050707@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:27:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: B&C References: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> <83db447a05042801303fd52486@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05042801303fd52486@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > Roy, you were right in your >description of Schiphol--it's a veritable maze of duty-free shops. Schiphol >is a quantum leap over Manchester as a transit airport---very impressive. > > Feeling chopperd liverish, though not totally chopped since quoting Roy does not necessarily imply that he was the only one who said these things, yet feeling ever-so-slightly chopped liverish, I must say that I also said that Schiphol is a veritable maze of duty-free shops. And I've said many times on this that Schiphol is my favorite airport in the world. I've checked e-mail there many times, among other activities. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 07:51:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SCpnWm000174 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:51:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:51:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F31139@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 8:51:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:51:49 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SCpmIu012105 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:51:48 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3SCpm7O014754 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:51:48 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3SCoELT015657 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:50:15 -0400 Message-ID: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: radio Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:50:14 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bethany K. Dumas" > Interesting. To me, the best music is on NPR College radio generally plays cutting edge music... and they're great ways to win tickets to shows! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:11:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDBUWm003653 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:11:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:11:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F311FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:11:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:11:30 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDBUPg015095 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:11:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.115.196]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050428131129.GUWJ2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:11:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:11:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Question for Online Radio-Listners [was Re: radio] References: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > College radio generally plays cutting edge music... and they're great > ways > to win tickets to shows! That station I recommended last night is a college station, but I don't think it tries to be cutting-edge. It sticks to pretty traditional jazz of various sub-types, I think. Btw, I have questions for those of you who are into online radio-listening. Right after I sent that e-mail to the list last night about the JSU station, I decided to send a recommendation of it to some other people. Even though I said in my e-mail that I normally kept my computer's speakers turned off -- iow, I am not very knowledgeable of available net sounds, I seem to have been elevated to the position of online radio guru. I got two immediate replies, one asking me if I knew of a good oldies station online and another if I knew of a good blues station online. I don't. Do y'all? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:19:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDJWWm005152 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:19:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:19:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F31235@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:19:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:19:32 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDJVcs016333 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:19:31 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so635756wri for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.121.18 with SMTP id t18mr237304wrc; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:19:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SCqoA7/O8LUXfAWfzpKN6xoj2FFvkLX++Uvpx9n7cvlQLvhKxlTRfax9uXqTmKnvs4Sc8py0N8jK3cUXTwMmcBeUtWh3O3BxrBOWoLWpN7kXSEi/P/E8IQGF4qJGWtwvCW/4Mdw4ZfO8kk/HC/L0/lyPAKTkePgpX9t8NU36H/A= Message-ID: <83db447a050428061951022b9a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:19:31 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: B&C In-Reply-To: <4270D6A7.4050707@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> <83db447a05042801303fd52486@mail.gmail.com> <4270D6A7.4050707@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SDJWWm005152 On 4/28/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > > Feeling chopperd liverish, though not totally chopped since quoting Roy > does not necessarily imply that he was the only one who said these > things, yet feeling ever-so-slightly chopped liverish, I must say that I > also said that Schiphol is a veritable maze of duty-free shops. And > I've said many times on this that Schiphol is my favorite > airport in the world. I've checked e-mail there many times, among other > activities. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) You may well have said all of that. What stuck in my mind was Roy's characterization of Schiphol as a large duty-free shop with an airport attached. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:27:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDR5Wm006046 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:27:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:27:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00609EE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:17:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:17:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDH2P0015807 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:17:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so635107wri for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.121.20 with SMTP id t20mr728416wrc; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:17:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=c5s0MlXzQdHKVtFpxx2R9UuhAx2p+6KMrYOhR/e34NmC7zX/8XZ0os6OwSLFbTqTae+XJK2kvBrTrDsVWFSAN+QoPzdm5H2euVJRFrtTMA6re9lF3dJH1QhIwAIk8zzfextxiozfKDPfA/P7C4Tq3DveQ99YJ6JpbR8yNlJlYec= Message-ID: <83db447a0504280617747f742a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:17:02 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: B&C In-Reply-To: <4270A0A9.7010707@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> <83db447a05042801303fd52486@mail.gmail.com> <4270A0A9.7010707@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SDR5Wm006046 On 4/28/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > Clyde Voigtlander skrev 28.04.2005 10:30: > > > Down at the southern (or SSE) of the lake there is a rhododendrarium > where there should be some flowers now. You're right---that's what I saw from the bus and that's where we went this morning, after shopping. A few varieties were in bloom, including one dwarf variety (very small leaves, blue flowers) that I haven't seen in North America. After a pleasant stroll around the lake, we had lunch at the museum. That is a great place to have a quiet lunch. Thanks again for the recommendation. Bon voyage! I leave for Mo i Rana a little later today, and will change > planes on my way back tomorrow evening in Trondheim - maybe you are not > too far away from there at that time? I think that we will be in/near Alesund, after having sailed the Geiranger Fjord. This afternoon, we ascended the Floyen and watched the Midnatsol (our ship) sail in and dock. Met an English couple who also will on the voyage. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:32:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDW6Wm006682 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:32:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:32:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F312C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:32:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:32:06 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDW5tn018511 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:32:06 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so707488wra for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.18 with SMTP id w18mr727696wrc; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:32:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UbLPNmNV55N3lYfYuiddEbjcKD7mOLNzorWdDTlhuEmbPNi61u5Y0lCxxEIH8OaQYn7nN7T4lEJwEG0t11aX+PHJy49/HZdtCdW4/tOHpuZJEsCC0HB855asiNBfkIXdDFq5YiVtHlxSqwiOP6Gyo3Cf3dooxdrsR2gLchoP6+o= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:32:05 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: B&C In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050427081804.00ba3a78@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> <426F4D39.4040501@gmail.com> <426FAB3F.1060308@gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050427081804.00ba3a78@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SDW6Wm006682 > > Oh, I'm sure they will be disappointed, too. Maybe when they take the > cruise in the summer! > BB I doubt we ever will take this trip in the summer. Too many tourists. But one day we will fly to Oslo and take the train to Bergen. An English couple we just met did that and said it was very worthwhile. But we won't be doing that for awhile. Maybe when Clyde turns 70. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:36:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDa4Wm007079 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:36:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:36:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F312FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:36:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:36:02 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDa2jX019080 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:36:02 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3SDa17O016592 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:36:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (pool-70-109-204-150.prov.east.verizon.net [70.109.204.150]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3SDYWLU001475 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:34:34 -0400 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:29:37 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: radio Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bethany K. Dumas" >> Interesting. To me, the best music is on NPR > >College radio generally plays cutting edge music... and they're great ways >to win tickets to shows! I have been listening to WMVY on Martha's Vineyard since they started a repeater in Newport. They are also online at mvyradio.com. /Jim http://words-l.org/images/jb From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:40:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDe0Wm007475 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:40:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:40:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00609DD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:35:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:35:38 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDZWlN018995 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:35:32 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17913539 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:36:13 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:35:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:35:31 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <117854068.20050428073531@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <42701D6F.7050109@maynor.net> References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> <266984631.20050427100414@gailndan.com> <42701D6F.7050109@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 181, in=74383, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 5:17 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >>DMH> I am not exactly a longtime Chicago resident, but someone >>DMH> who uses "773" to mean the city--man, that's just pathetic. >> >>And if it were a long time resident, they'd say 312 anyway. >> >> NM> Would 773 have been my area code at U of Chicago in '80? It sounds NM> familiar. I bet it was. Sorry. According to the history of area codes at http://www.areacode-info.com/ On 2/9/90 708 split off from 312, leaving 312 as Metro Chicago. Until that time 312 was most of northern Illinios. 847 split off from 708 4/20/96 773 split from 312 on 1/11/97 Didn't go further into when 630 split off, etc. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:40:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDe0Wm007477 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:40:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:40:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00609FAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:38:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:38:22 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDcM8m019433 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:38:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17779130 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:51:13 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:36:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:36:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1295489677.20050428073621@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <42701E9B.5090305@maynor.net> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <563143437.20050427140143@gailndan.com> <42701E9B.5090305@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 181, in=61870, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 5:22 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Why don't you just google for it? Should be a simple enough search. >> >> NM> Sure. Googling for "ken" is quite easy. Gleaning anything useful from a NM> google for "ken" is another thing. I'm reminded of my search for a NM> childhood neighbor who moved to Georgia when we were in late elementary NM> school or early junior high. His name was Jimmy Carter. I got lots of NM> hits when googling for Jimmy Carter in Georgia. Still haven't found my NM> Jimmy, though. And I bet I would get quite a few more hits for ken than NM> for jimmy carter georgia. Probably so....but it IS an easy thing to google. Only have to type three characters and hit return. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:40:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDe0Wm007473 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:40:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:40:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00609EB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:29:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:29:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDTuV8018179 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:29:58 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so706774wra for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.15 with SMTP id x15mr732200wrc; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:29:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=i6SVVBzOrve/Rw8XxRjQv4pPtyYs6Ib5LmB8ze2df/en2eS8CWiY4BGrYdtVXGLzOgF200xzB4ifHVwOuNHfd149bq1EBNxTzkq82iR/JJVEXjAl57VmwfIloN/8OOavwK2QbaJeQ2pOTcGAy0Kd+OOO2UPn8VRo5QTXrW+bAs8= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:29:53 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: B&C In-Reply-To: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SDe0Wm007473 > > Either there was something in the airport coffee, or relaxed retirees on > their vacation are good for the soul. I just had a nice hour or so at > Schiphol with bonniev and cwv who are on their way to Bergen. We > stepped outside and got some pictures in the typical Dutch weather in > front of the typical Dutch tulips. And then I sent them off into > duty free heaven. > It was great meeting you, Steph. It was a nice hour spent together. We found the liquor we wanted and had plenty of time to make the plane. But, wow, that plane was crowded. Just about then the fatigue hit me and it seemed like a long two hours to Bergen. Spring is beautiful here. Their tulips aren't blooming yet. But the rhododendron are lovely. Three hours and we will be on the ship. Yippee! -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:40:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDeNWm007552 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:40:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:40:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00609DF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:40:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:40:22 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDeLZ3019685 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:40:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17779322 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:53:13 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:37:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:37:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <808479256.20050428073703@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 181, in=61871, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 5:24 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >>Yeah....but maybe he's in Germantown....or Van Nuys. >> >> NM> Much more useful is the possibility of a last name: Klammer. Will NM> search later. Need to zip through the rest of mail first. Interesting NM> fax number, btw. That's simply their policy....no blanks in those fields permitted. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:42:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDgDWm007677 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:42:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:42:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00609F0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:42:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:42:12 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDgBb1019986 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:42:11 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3SDg87Y016814 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:42:11 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3SDdsLT003832 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:39:55 -0400 Message-ID: <06bf01c54bf7$c32c68c0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Question for Online Radio-Listners [was Re: radio] Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:39:54 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > I got two immediate replies, one asking me if I knew > of a good oldies station online and another if I knew of a good blues > station online. I don't. Do y'all? No, but this is a good site to watch earthquakes: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:42:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDgGWm007689 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:42:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:42:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00609E03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:42:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:42:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDg90x019976 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:42:13 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so711028wra for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.83.1 with SMTP id g1mr1090240wrb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:42:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GmldbXYe+EO2xsCZ6Yideamba2XbWmmwqGMTElqevEvJfx13yA/a0SiC+moWhnck5IvJbj8EoaQlByYQoQbAE/2ngtqaSFRbWhfzzzky7oEjDmv+z/h0oU3GG0KlUMogZx68cEH037wg0ZhNn1o8SetoZxubb3auDnDauM6JTKg= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:42:09 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? In-Reply-To: <200504262117.j3QLH767020033@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504262117.j3QLH767020033@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SDgGWm007689 > > I've been moving slowly through > J.D. Salinger's daughter's memoirs during hiatuses between other books -- > beautifully written, but rather dark, and hence slow going. I also > recently reread the > collected essays of E.B. White, which make me feel that I never want to > write > anything again because I'm never going to be a tenth that good. > Janet > Tell more about J.D. Salinger's daughter's book, please. Did she know her father very well? What is the name of it? I read all of May Sarton's memoirs and then made the mistake of reading her authorized biography. She was nothing like she thought she was. The biographer made her seem wicked. It almost negated the pleasure I took in her memoirs. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:46:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDklWm008238 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:46:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:46:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00609FFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:46:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:46:47 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDkjO0020738 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:46:45 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17914763 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:47:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:47:05 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:46:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1791243927.20050428074644@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <20050428002207.GA41900@words-l.org> References: <200504260118.j3Q1IeqO026292@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504251832237edbf@mail.gmail.com> <20050426105824.GB37593@words-l.org> <426E2AF5.20109@maynor.net> <20050426135522.GA20676@words-l.org> <424484171.20050427101553@gailndan.com> <20050427184022.GA96315@words-l.org> <1202270496.20050427140740@gailndan.com> <20050428002207.GA41900@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 181, in=74387, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 6:22 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> That 773 does not "cover a lorge part of the metropolitan area". It >> does cover a large part of the city itself, however. DMH> When I said metropolitan area, I meant the city. DMH> What else does it mean? "Chicagoland"? Normally "metropolitan area" includes the suburbs, etc. q.v. the governments official terminology of SMSA for Standard Metropolitan Statistical Area. One example is: Standard Metropolitan Statistical Area. Also known as MSA (Metro Area). A market definition provided by the Bureau of Census. Each Metro Area or SMSA contains a county or counties having at least a) one central city with population of 50,000 or more, or b) a city with at least 25,000 which interacts economically or socially with surrounding communities bringing the total population to 50,000. You're welcome to grub around in the Census Bureau website to find a more detailed definition and examples. It appears that the Census term is in transition to must "MA" these days. Again, further details are left as an exercise for the student. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:58:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDwbWm009925 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00609E89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:58:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:58:32 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDwWDu022593 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:58:32 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18070861 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:24:49 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:24:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:23:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <997515594.20050428072348@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050427144820f41176@mail.gmail.com> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042714273c0e285b@mail.gmail.com> <712692552.20050427153005@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050427144820f41176@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 177, in=63324, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 3:48 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> AFAIK, contacting him was never a goal. I certainly have no intention of AFoA> doing so. Never said you did. But you're not the only one reading the message, either. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:58:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDwbWm009923 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A042@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:58:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:58:10 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDwAhp022528 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:58:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18070801 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:24:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:51:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:51:16 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1075060498.20050428075116@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: radio In-Reply-To: <200504280520.j3S5KJYZ002462@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504280520.j3S5KJYZ002462@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 177, in=63310, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 11:20 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: CO> He recited stuff with a cadence that led me CO> to believe he either memorized poems by the guy who wrote CO> "Cremation of Sam McGee", or at least admired him a whole lot. CO> It added spice to the night, I tall'ee. Robert W. Service is the author of the above. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:58:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDwbWm009924 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00609E4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:48:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:48:35 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDmZ7P021095 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:48:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18052002 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:48:56 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:48:55 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:48:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1144320061.20050428074833@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <427032CC.2060807@maynor.net> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> <427032CC.2060807@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 179, in=60489, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 6:48 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Much more useful is the possibility of a last name: Klammer. Will >> search later. NM> And I did, but alas I couldn't find anything current. I found his NM> Germantown info linked from some kind of general art site, but his link NM> in Germantown was dead. And I found no trace of him in the LA NM> vicinity. I have a feeling that his movie career might not have taken NM> off. I'm glad we (the Snowbashers who visited Alyce) got to meet him. Glad it was useful to you, even if it gave KK another reason to bitch and moan and whine. Maybe he's doing well enough in movies to have adopted a screen name. Maybe he'll be the next John Wayne or something? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 08:58:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SDwcWm009933 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A044@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 9:58:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:58:38 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SDwcNU022612 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:58:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18070898 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:24:55 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:38:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:38:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <21993820.20050428073810@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'regular radio'? In-Reply-To: <42701FDC.7020609@maynor.net> References: <42701FDC.7020609@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 177, in=63349, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/27/2005, 5:27 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I don't know the exact definition of "regular radio," but did I mention NM> here my discovery of a really great jazz station in Jackson? I remember NM> mentioning it in e-mail but don't remember whether it was here. It's NM> the Jackson State University station and is really, really good. I've NM> started switching back and forth between it and MPB (formerly PRM) in my NM> car, plus every once in a while switching to the oldies station. I'd consider the jazz and oldies stations to be "regular radio". Same with any playing urban black, contemporary country, classic country, adult album alternative, or any of the other formats out there these days...and there are many more. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 09:12:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SEBvWm011698 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:11:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:12:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A059@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:01:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:01:57 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SE1uIW023271 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:01:56 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:01:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:01:30 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: talk radio? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for the warning. I have read all of Sarton's memoirs as well and I think I will avoid the biography so I can keep the wonderful impression (illusion?) I have of her. BrP >>> bonniemaev@GMAIL.COM 4/28/2005 9:42:09 AM >>> I read all of May Sarton's memoirs and then made the mistake of reading her authorized biography. She was nothing like she thought she was. The biographer made her seem wicked. It almost negated the pleasure I took in her memoirs. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 09:18:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SEIUWm012419 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:18:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:18:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060A00D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:18:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:18:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SEITH1025973 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:18:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so609353nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr101864nzb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:18:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Bl6EgB9j0ukc7z80Ih+WX9WQiQP/BxiVxkqOsIoWJDQHW1VZduDzW+PdGErBCqIdGVFjwmV2eoJAkFFqUIeAqpeZqFfkLhfezr0gTUzAB+BvQBmdzGzsn96R/KerKmgzVpQiLhdl6YEKhfe2w/1TGp1nbn+FHlJ8EM1ygI8BhcE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042807187f364e32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:18:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <1144320061.20050428074833@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> <427032CC.2060807@maynor.net> <1144320061.20050428074833@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SEIUWm012419 On 4/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > Glad it was useful to you, even if it gave KK another reason to bitch > and moan and whine. LOL! As if, Dan, as if. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 09:24:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SENoWm012925 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:23:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:23:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A156@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:23:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:23:50 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SENnXA027256 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:23:49 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18056480 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:24:11 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:22:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:21:41 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <934649367.20050428082141@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for Online Radio-Listners [was Re: radio] In-Reply-To: <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> References: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 179, in=60525, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/28/2005, 7:11 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I got two immediate replies, one asking me if I knew NM> of a good oldies station online and another if I knew of a good blues NM> station online. I don't. Do y'all? My suggestions for further research are http://www.radiotower.com/ and http://www.web-radio.com/fr_list.cfm dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 09:26:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SEQ1Wm013275 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:26:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:26:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A175@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:26:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:26:01 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SEQ0eS028190 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:26:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17784631 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:38:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:24:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:23:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <626747465.20050428082356@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042807187f364e32@mail.gmail.com> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> <427032CC.2060807@maynor.net> <1144320061.20050428074833@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042807187f364e32@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 181, in=61885, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/28/2005, 8:18 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Glad it was useful to you, even if it gave KK another reason to bitch >> and moan and whine. AFoA> LOL! As if, Dan, as if. As always, I'm sure you're completely correct. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 09:32:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SEWTWm013868 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:32:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:32:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060A0ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:32:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:32:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SEWSDU029515 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:32:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so613797nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr102501nzb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:32:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aRljQqnnAKoOii1LAqirt2Z5zadmYH29wUWD3d2l0R8DCwRRRUCCe8hJ4QBZXKI+hGZl1qw2yIo6BsPq3BLaUzyDaqUmADPGFHfhJ4ATUEXz2DfRuL5XdofhtTClvqRT0R+keSsSJqIfv2asB+uUIKcDzjB6PU7xINEGzsHwCYo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504280732e8a7a90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:32:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <626747465.20050428082356@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> <427032CC.2060807@maynor.net> <1144320061.20050428074833@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042807187f364e32@mail.gmail.com> <626747465.20050428082356@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SEWTWm013868 On 4/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 4/28/2005, 8:18 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> Glad it was useful to you, even if it gave KK another reason to bitch > >> and moan and whine. > > AFoA> LOL! As if, Dan, as if. > > As always, I'm sure you're completely correct. > Oh, likewise, I AM SURE! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 09:46:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SEjuWm015511 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:45:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:46:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A208@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:45:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:45:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SEjuQF032290 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:45:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so618493nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.8 with SMTP id m8mr103306nzb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:45:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Xvo0tTseHKn2LObZ02fyDjmIoqhppkII9Lh1C9wD7sJitN8Dt0F7zD0Xrd8xlvBtWgB1/hoOO7SrwEsATEgwhNWGaptnLMwlpiyrz9Lz46dg8QK+zGz5cnCEclzuz0qTRh6MaZ3hs7l8KTHtRTqLjucWcJLi2oKTPYyHjMkUSbg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050428074546ba190f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:45:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for Online Radio-Listners [was Re: radio] In-Reply-To: <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SEjuWm015511 Here's an article: http://www.business2.com/b2/web/articles/0,17863,1054376,00.html Although you have to install software for it, I like http://www.live365.com/index.live. Also, KUT.org--good blues on Monday nights at 8pm, good oldies on Saturday nights at 8pm. Karen On 4/28/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Alan Wild wrote: > > > College radio generally plays cutting edge music... and they're great > > ways > > to win tickets to shows! > > That station I recommended last night is a college station, but I don't > think it tries to be cutting-edge. It sticks to pretty traditional jazz > of various sub-types, I think. > > Btw, I have questions for those of you who are into online > radio-listening. Right after I sent that e-mail to the list last night > about the JSU station, I decided to send a recommendation of it to some > other people. Even though I said in my e-mail that I normally kept my > computer's speakers turned off -- iow, I am not very knowledgeable of > available net sounds, I seem to have been elevated to the position of > online radio guru. I got two immediate replies, one asking me if I knew > of a good oldies station online and another if I knew of a good blues > station online. I don't. Do y'all? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 10:06:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SF69Wm018500 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:06:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:06:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A2DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:06:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:06:08 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SF67hZ004370 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:06:08 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3SF657O021003 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:06:07 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3SF3DLT009922 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:03:14 -0400 Message-ID: <073901c54c03$66b72a60$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Jeeesus... Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:03:12 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I didn't know this: *** "More Americans die each year from hospital-acquired infections than from auto accidents and homicides combined. Even though the problem is well-documented, the risks for getting hospital infections have steadily increased during recent decades. http://stophospitalinfections.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 10:14:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SFDnWm019385 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:13:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:14:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A322@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:13:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:13:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SFDnFl005816 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:13:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so627723nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.9 with SMTP id h9mr104944nzb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:13:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hu3FApGtsh3R9Gn2iOxeTTt7H2fgtJPL8hn/edS2aYB8Qqy5qvXi+QdfJ6xOlxL8uFT/PdBNr2L8T7hJioVELidW8e9o9cAdUY8W6moWyCFKh6FKHqkYKWyaXwgvBTHNpJulgVSOavChfcxHWX3qzlyJzrVQwKNNlTh8Kd+KxwM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050428081361ede416@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:13:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jeeesus... In-Reply-To: <073901c54c03$66b72a60$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <073901c54c03$66b72a60$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SFDnWm019385 Remember, what made Alyce sick and dependent on oxygen was an infection she picked up in the hospital. On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > I didn't know this: > > *** > > "More Americans die each year from hospital-acquired infections than from > auto accidents and homicides combined. Even though the problem is > well-documented, the risks for getting hospital infections have steadily > increased during recent decades. > > http://stophospitalinfections.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 10:15:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SFFFWm019556 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:15:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:15:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A337@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:15:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:15:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SFFEPl006011 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:15:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so628232nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr105179nzb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:15:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ILOYY1uVFaHCswNe95gk+m3Qls27ylEQNAQpubZ27gLK0BdWPnpAenNatLYy1/RP7+bYh8xN6ximNy9Xpf8WCWjihSXbvRtMhfNtVCDX738LUs5xrp6lF3KkGAVfG7Z1DXcjNnZvlSr5rt5q0GzNXb7L2CHJ3WGyVO06Hmyd9zs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050428081553ec595@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:15:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Asperger's Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SFFFWm019556 To celebrate National Autism Month, Audible.com has free downloads of information about Autism and Asperger's. I haven't listened to it yet, but their stuff is usually pretty interesting. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 11:21:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SGLMWm027632 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:21:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:21:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F31C5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:21:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:21:21 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SGLLCE019800 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:21:21 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F31C98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:21:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200504281621.j3SGLLCE019800@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:21:21 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: talk radio? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:42:09 +0200, bonniemaev wrote: >> >> I've been moving slowly through >> J.D. Salinger's daughter's memoirs during hiatuses between other books -- >> beautifully written, but rather dark, and hence slow going. I also >> recently reread the >> collected essays of E.B. White, which make me feel that I never want to >> write >> anything again because I'm never going to be a tenth that good. >> Janet >> >Tell more about J.D. Salinger's daughter's book, please. Did she know her >father very well? What is the name of it? She knew him quite well -- she was the favorite daughter, treated almost like a lover. I think the book is called "Dreamcatcher," but you can check Amazon under Peggy Salinger to confirm that. >I read all of May Sarton's memoirs and then made the mistake of reading her >authorized biography. She was nothing like she thought she was. The >biographer made her seem wicked. It almost negated the pleasure I took in >her memoirs. I'm having something of the same trouble with this one. Writers are not usually very nice people, IME -- reading their biographies may be a little bit like knowing how sausage is made. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 11:32:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SGVrWm029160 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:31:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:32:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060A4FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:31:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:31:49 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SGVmXB021786; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:31:48 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 55169367; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:31:48 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050428093020.00ba96b8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:31:47 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: B&C In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050427081804.00ba3a78@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050427065952.GA14890@yoccoz.multinix.com> <426F4D39.4040501@gmail.com> <426FAB3F.1060308@gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050427081804.00ba3a78@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:32 PM 4/28/2005 +0200, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > Oh, I'm sure they will be disappointed, too. Maybe when they take the > > cruise in the summer! > > BB > > I doubt we ever will take this trip in the summer. Too many tourists. But >one day we will fly to Oslo and take the train to Bergen. An English couple >we just met did that and said it was very worthwhile. But we won't be doing >that for awhile. Maybe when Clyde turns 70. It's indeed beautiful. We were on a bus for part of our trip before we flew to Tromso and the midnight sun. Enjoy! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 11:33:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SGXFWm029365 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:33:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:33:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A5BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:33:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:33:15 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SGXF0S022229 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:33:15 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F31D53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:33:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200504281633.j3SGXF0S022229@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:33:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: radio To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:51:16 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >4/27/2005, 11:20 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >CO> He recited stuff with a cadence that led me >CO> to believe he either memorized poems by the guy who wrote >CO> "Cremation of Sam McGee", or at least admired him a whole lot. >CO> It added spice to the night, I tall'ee. > >Robert W. Service is the author of the above. True. I knew words-l would correct my early-am deficiencies. ;) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 12:52:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SHqZWm009892 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:52:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:52:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060A752@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:37:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:37:24 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SHROeM031529 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:27:24 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3SHQxYW008994 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:26:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: .asf Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The downloaded file was an .asf file - what program runs such files? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 12:52:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SHqZWm009894 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:52:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:52:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060A789@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:42:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:42:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SHg5j8001663 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:42:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so676488nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr113418nzc; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:42:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Q2eLGLT5XWhYmfsa8231q0tSJS9YRlycCe2qX05cCg5JZy2JjwEPN/aHLdxZYihezbfsKSLgrSfEUTn633Y7293eoJMhLjT+RaodlQlRldDnAYVfJ0utozL7+PpOzLWwXHjrnXwebM/PqDqP5sqJFqB7J7tpZMm7wXLIqLB/TKI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050428104229577806@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:42:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: .asf In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SHqZWm009894 http://www.google.com is your friend. On 4/28/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > The downloaded file was an .asf file - what program runs such files? > > Bethany > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 12:52:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SHqZWm009889 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:52:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:52:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060A725@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:32:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:32:34 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SHMY3w030757 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:22:34 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3SHM7VL001866 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:22:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:22:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: jazz Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: For hours of jazz, I recommend WJSU, Jackson: http://redlasertech.com/wjsu/ I cannot get that on my radio - yet, at least. When I am listening to music, I am usually moving around too much to be lugging a computer with me. Also, so far I cannot get this on my computer either. When I click listen now, a file is downloaded - An .atf file, as I recall - but I do not seem to have an application for it. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 12:52:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SHqZWm009893 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:52:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:52:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A8BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:45:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 43513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:45:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SHjt57002400 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:45:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so677576nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr113559nzb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SpD5iKa2MBGWbZ37TSbjb6rJqRf3dp8E4tHiN+MVNfNEQ2odh+eykhRpikQBVE6lpPJwE+Px1Snm7BfnP0ziSw8GuL3JQ3YRIEIOZ0dCOaz9ClQH6Qh2BNpmB0Myc/xNyC3+8Kzxlcjj+wRWDnEE/bGRal/xvTCJw9mpgTDeRa4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050428104579c496b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:45:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: jazz In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SHqZWm009893 On 4/28/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > Also, so far I cannot get this on my computer either. When I click listen > now, a file is downloaded - An .atf file, as I recall - but I do not seem > to have an application for it. Most radio stations tell you what software you need (Windows Media Player, RealAudio, and WinAmp) are the most common. But FWIW, I can't get this radio station to play, either. WMP opens, but it's not the right version or something. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 12:57:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SHvMWm010468 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:57:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:57:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F321B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:57:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:57:22 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SHvMe8004176 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:57:22 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:57:22 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:56:54 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: .asf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.users.on.net/~nat_tomic/google/ BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/28/2005 1:42:05 PM >>> http://www.google.com is your friend. On 4/28/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > The downloaded file was an .asf file - what program runs such files? > > Bethany > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 12:59:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SHx1Wm010723 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:59:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:59:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A929@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:59:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:59:00 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SHx0wn004467 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:59:00 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 55197264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:59:00 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050428105845.02d32d40@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:58:59 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Jeeesus... In-Reply-To: <073901c54c03$66b72a60$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU NEVER go to a hospital. At 11:03 AM 4/28/2005 -0400, you wrote: >I didn't know this: > >*** > >"More Americans die each year from hospital-acquired infections than from >auto accidents and homicides combined. Even though the problem is >well-documented, the risks for getting hospital infections have steadily >increased during recent decades. > >http://stophospitalinfections.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 13:12:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SICRWm012824 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:12:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:12:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060A9E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:12:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 46460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:12:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SICQD1006687 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:12:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so684930nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr114936nzb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:12:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rgUyDunYSR/Zbpn4zTmYBaOS+ZFU7nWNko9OIMOqtnYf3T03FEYVIls8/3UbUSSFXkKVtOBaDByfc2V8t6z1fR+uxhCFOG1e5zD2XzEPmnpwJbfkoJaGDTy1lNqVbwj0ZfIoOBqMia8bRs7J/LIqOLyTXlZrVa4hkYiXNZOMoEs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050428111250b4f87d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:12:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: .asf In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SICRWm012824 Someone somewhere talked about a 2-minute google rule, and I think that's a great idea. So is Bart Simpson.:) On 4/28/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > http://www.users.on.net/~nat_tomic/google/ > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/28/2005 1:42:05 PM >>> > http://www.google.com is your friend. > > On 4/28/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > > The downloaded file was an .asf file - what program runs such files? > > > > Bethany > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 13:16:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SIGaWm013504 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:16:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:16:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060AA00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:16:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 46814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:16:36 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SIGZIv007241 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:16:36 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A0198981 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:16:34 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01825-05 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:16:34 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DBC988B4 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:16:34 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4271283E.1080206@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:15:26 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.755 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY, MANY_EXCLAMATIONS X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: >Kristin Sarv wrote: > >>Just for >>future searches: what is Miles's surname? >> >> > >Taber, and I hope someday you find it -- but right now he's a lowly extra, and hence >not credited. The process of getting a SAG card is labyrinthine and he's just taking >his first steps. > I wish him luck, and much enthusiasm. It's such a fun when young people are are after something. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 13:18:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SIHuWm013683 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:17:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:18:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060A85D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:17:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 46906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:17:56 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SIHtDb007440 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:17:55 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:17:55 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:17:33 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: .asf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Your search -'two minute google rule' - did not match any documents" Nobody has ever used that phrase before BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/28/2005 2:12:25 PM >>> Someone somewhere talked about a 2-minute google rule, and I think that's a great idea. So is Bart Simpson.:) On 4/28/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > http://www.users.on.net/~nat_tomic/google/ > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/28/2005 1:42:05 PM >>> > http://www.google.com is your friend. > > On 4/28/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > > The downloaded file was an .asf file - what program runs such files? > > > > Bethany > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 13:20:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SIKgWm014013 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:20:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:20:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060A994@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:20:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 47439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:20:42 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SIKf8s008089 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:20:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF965989E5 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:20:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02042-10 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:20:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58E1989D7 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:20:39 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42712933.6010400@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:19:31 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: thoughts while washing windows References: <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <426D7D20.1080603@maynor.net> <426E55F4.7040003@akad.ee> <426EC92E.4080901@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <426EC92E.4080901@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.334 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia wrote: >Because they are inexpensive and I have a very hard time finding any >nicer dress clothes that fit, being 178 cm and almost 90 kg. At least >those are my reasons. Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't really know much about it, not being much into clothes, but I > think it's probably a combination of high quality and reasonable prices Which makes me think: are there also countries where tourists go to a shoemaker to order shoes ideal for their feet. Finding fitting shoes may be even a bigger problem. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 13:36:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SIZvWm016541 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:35:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:36:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060A8E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:28:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 48607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:28:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SIScvd009782 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:28:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so689571nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr115645nzb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:28:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qApTGzq3L1l7ZO4URvRIXAWzn4+2CSUdptmTAELfwliqxzJeTGGzzG2Oad1z33Cl31C33mlAniI2lj2zWY/h4Axa+RXdD1FrLy3Wvje0TMmfo3o8O4I9ZZnXUFd2qOd8EfxkQLbh9g4njxTM91y6DceZyAdUAzq5Hcqb9PeoHLg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042811286744cc94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:28:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Big Announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SIZvWm016541 The public address system just informed me there is a code F in building 908 (not my building). I wonder if F is for Fire in the cafeteria. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 13:36:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SIZvWm016542 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:35:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:36:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060AA92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:25:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 48305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:25:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SIPuYr009264 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:25:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so688798nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.9 with SMTP id e9mr115509nzb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:25:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=N78JkEI7H7FdYiUaIhUAx/WJght7YtrwXtZd/3okCO9DAzso+SJCm2ahPcvOV0GKvI3Cq774fZd9LSSo5jKw1FQE353guU/dm71+hBsRJVxr6nlOs/2fD1K3PMvrFZ47PqTx0k9p5PY07zfCufC5U9evkVD2uEUWDC1M9f9CXzw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042811254a70debb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:25:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: thoughts while washing windows In-Reply-To: <42712933.6010400@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <426D7D20.1080603@maynor.net> <426E55F4.7040003@akad.ee> <426EC92E.4080901@maynor.net> <42712933.6010400@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SIZvWm016542 On 4/28/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > Which makes me think: are there also countries where tourists go to a > shoemaker to order shoes ideal for their feet. Finding fitting shoes may > be even a bigger problem. Greece and Italy. Hong Kong for jewelry. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 13:39:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SIdZWm016860 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:39:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:39:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060AB0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:39:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 49827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:39:34 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SIdYmQ011852 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:39:34 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 55211123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:39:33 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050428113903.02d461b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:39:32 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Code F In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cheating going on according to google. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 13:39:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SIdmWm016880 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:39:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:39:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060A951@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:39:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 49849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:39:47 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SIdlCS011910 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:39:47 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:39:47 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:39:36 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Big Announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU yee haa Texas barbecue! BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/28/2005 2:28:37 PM >>> The public address system just informed me there is a code F in building 908 (not my building). I wonder if F is for Fire in the cafeteria. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 14:20:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SJKHWm022224 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:20:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:20:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060ABC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:20:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:20:17 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SJKGqb019844 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:20:16 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3SJKF7O030360 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:20:16 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3SJH4LT027514 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:17:05 -0400 Message-ID: <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705042811286744cc94@mail.gmail.com> Subject: 'Minute announcement... Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:17:03 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 14:23:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SJNaWm022500 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:23:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:23:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060ABE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:23:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:23:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SJNZbo020635 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:23:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so704696nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr118645nzb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:23:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bCP/vloY7n8imFCuOpaqA5k3pE9XUF1dTNUYh4CZiFfQEnd2Tgg+E/pumO+bbUfemugX77zYO8pP6iL3kSbdVNLGZmgdQM+lL+6dR3oHT5LJo4k5P9aQ2iwtVL446U9B+o271tecHDN7ovFWcUouLvJa8V70MrnCbATTb8QtHc0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042812234830ee36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:23:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Big Announcement In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SJNaWm022500 LOL. I remember reading a Chinese fairy tale about a man whose house burned down. His pig (which lived with the family, of course) died in the fire, and he discovered that it tasted SO GOOD, so he kept building houses and burning them down with pigs inside... And that's how barbecue was invented! On 4/28/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > yee haa > Texas barbecue! > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 4/28/2005 2:28:37 PM >>> > The public address system just informed me there is a code F in > building 908 > (not my building). > > I wonder if F is for Fire in the cafeteria. > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 14:34:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SJYVWm024004 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:34:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:34:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060AB2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:34:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:34:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SJYTq9022609 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:34:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so707565nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.14 with SMTP id o14mr119294nzo; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:34:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=o8UA7DBXe1Jptd1VXZkdXbaktThvsYbykOUFIQkLDJs3pI/lD97OpAvxKY5tGHStIlajDiPES9EoeMNzodmaHUnxXNXkR+Jxv20SvIadzHczUOtjn6BaB1SkPlJv9rUzg2n9/janLjlMVEkj1pljEMBu21vnQIloQaPMJaem9ws= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042812342f8e07c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:34:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... In-Reply-To: <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042811286744cc94@mail.gmail.com> <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SJYVWm024004 Are you drinking at work again, Alan? On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. > > 'Alan > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 15:00:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SJxsWm026530 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:59:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:00:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060ABCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:59:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:59:53 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SJxqWj026842 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:59:52 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C6C41B39E614 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:59:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001001c54c2c$d5d957f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: In case you missed this news . . Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:59:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SJxsWm026530 BERLIN - Why are toads puffing up and spontaneously exploding in northern Europe? It began in a posh German neighborhood and has spread across the border into Denmark. It's left onlookers baffled, but one German scientist studying the splattered amphibian remains now has a theory: Hungry crows may be pecking out their livers. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 15:06:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SK6cWm027548 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:06:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:06:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F32884@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:06:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:06:38 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SK6bDq028179 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:06:37 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 70BFA1130E6D5 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:04:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001701c54c2d$7e0b8290$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Passing Gas Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:04:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SK6cWm027548 I was driving down the street just now and heard the darndest thing on the radio. This man was going on and on about passing gas . . how embarrassing . . how it smells up the room . . sometimes people have to leave the room, it's so bad . . .babies have died from it . . . etc. etc. Then a little girl says something like "Daddy's doing it again. Go outside, Daddy" . . . . . then "You know you promised you would only smoke outside." The ad (by some health group) ends by saying "Stop passing gas." - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 15:21:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SKLQWm029302 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:21:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:21:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060ACBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:21:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:21:26 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SKLPxr030676 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:21:25 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3SKLMgh026395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:21:23 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3SKLMxs026393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:21:22 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:21:22 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? Message-ID: <20050428202122.GA26111@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200504281621.j3SGLLCE019800@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504281621.j3SGLLCE019800@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 12:21:21PM -0400, Janet Hardy wrote: = On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:42:09 +0200, bonniemaev wrote: = = >Tell more about J.D. Salinger's daughter's book, please. Did she know her = >father very well? What is the name of it? = = She knew him quite well -- she was the favorite daughter, treated almost = like a lover. I think the book is called "Dreamcatcher," but you can check = Amazon under Peggy Salinger to confirm that. = Unless both the dead people server and rotten.com are wrong, J.D. Salinger is still alive. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 15:52:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SKptWm032444 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:51:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:52:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060ADB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:51:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:51:55 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SKpslV003149 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:51:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 17969865 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:52:39 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:52:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:51:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <508592007.20050428145153@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In case you missed this news . . In-Reply-To: <001001c54c2c$d5d957f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <001001c54c2c$d5d957f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 182, in=74647, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, if you missed the video on this on NBC news the other evening, it was most interesting. Indeed some of the toads were gigantic, and dead. And some had definitely burst open. There were suggestions it was due to some fungus or other parasite organism that was killing them, but no definitive answer. The video wasn't as bad as watching battle video from nam over dinner some 35 years ago, but....wasn't pretty, either. dan 4/28/2005, 1:59 PM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> BERLIN - Why are toads puffing up and spontaneously DM> exploding in northern Europe? It began in a posh DM> German neighborhood and has spread across the border DM> into Denmark. It's left onlookers baffled, but one German DM> scientist studying the splattered amphibian remains now DM> has a theory: Hungry crows may be pecking out their livers. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 16:32:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SLWlWm003961 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:32:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:32:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060B034@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:32:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 68307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:32:46 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SLWjPw009070 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:32:45 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F32D0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:32:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200504282132.j3SLWjPw009070@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:32:45 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: talk radio? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:21:22 +0200, steph wrote: >On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 12:21:21PM -0400, Janet Hardy wrote: >= On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:42:09 +0200, bonniemaev wrote: >= >= >Tell more about J.D. Salinger's daughter's book, please. Did she know her >= >father very well? What is the name of it? >= >= She knew him quite well -- she was the favorite daughter, treated almost >= like a lover. I think the book is called "Dreamcatcher," but you can check >= Amazon under Peggy Salinger to confirm that. >= > >Unless both the dead people server and rotten.com are wrong, J.D. >Salinger is still alive. Yes, he is. Did I say otherwise? Right now in the book she's only in college, so she's writing in the past tense. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 16:42:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3SLgVWm004747 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:42:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:42:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060B076@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:42:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:42:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SLgUqk010120 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:42:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so740243nzp for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr125248nzt; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:42:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=aeIcRJhSiY+sgWYLAL62zaFDRLSy6WK+g86RF5u4g5KOOKS55BJ9+v4PykCOcxEwVVTyC7OQWI4A+WpIpr4DLhk4qzjNpOf2JVUMSnvc/0ZOIlI9shk0tZlaNQJAVx1OZhCQwox2B6JMN0FjSv+jWw21b6oSZ0bQ2zMvVOCOZBI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504281442792bf581@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:42:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Are you a Republican? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3SLgVWm004747 http://paulkienitz.net/republican.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 19:20:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T0KhWm023163 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:20:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:20:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060B3E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:00:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 76461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:00:42 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3SNofmA024061 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:50:41 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3SNoFlo013789 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:50:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:50:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: ok Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you for all your suggestions that research will tell me what an .asf or whatever file is. I KNOW that. I think I will talk to knowledgeable friends. I am seeking more than bare bones information. I guess I forgot to read the rule about never seeking information on wl - especially about something (like a radio station URL) that has been mentioned on the list. (sigh) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 19:20:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T0KhWm023164 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:20:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:20:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060B359@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:11:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:11:27 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T0BQk8026139 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:11:27 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3T0BP7Q024891 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:11:26 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3T09YLT011963 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:09:36 -0400 Message-ID: <008601c54c4f$bb601210$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705042811286744cc94@mail.gmail.com> <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705042812342f8e07c9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: 'Minute announcement... Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:09:35 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" > Are you drinking at work again, Alan? huh? oh, that's right; immigrant pickers generally use whatever's expedient in the fields. On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. > > 'Alan > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 19:44:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T0iHWm025583 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:44:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:44:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060B449@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:37:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:37:14 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3T0RCfC027988 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:27:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 44489 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Apr 2005 00:27:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:27:12 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? Message-ID: <20050429002712.GC33936@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70504281442792bf581@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504281442792bf581@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 04:42:29PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > http://paulkienitz.net/republican.html 8 choices for a question? bl0w m3 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 19:44:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T0iHWm025584 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:44:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:44:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060B39D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:39:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 78105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:39:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3T0TFEH028293 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:29:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 46895 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Apr 2005 00:29:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:29:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ok Message-ID: <20050429002914.GD33936@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 07:50:40PM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Thank you for all your suggestions that research will tell me what an .asf > or whatever file is. I KNOW that. > > I think I will talk to knowledgeable friends. I am seeking more than bare > bones information. > > I guess I forgot to read the rule about never seeking information on > wl - especially about something (like a radio station URL) that has > been mentioned on the list. > > (sigh) Eh? There is no such rule. It's the EvilTwins[tm] acting asinine again. Their aims are much more harmless than you think: shoring up each other's self-esteem, roughly speaking. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 19:44:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T0iHWm025578 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:44:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:44:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060B278@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:24:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:24:16 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3T0EFOb026289 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:14:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 35978 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Apr 2005 00:14:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:14:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: radio Message-ID: <20050429001414.GA33936@words-l.org> References: <200504281633.j3SGXF0S022229@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504281633.j3SGXF0S022229@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Please: do not use "AM" (worse, "the AM") as a noun to mean morning. It's hokey in the extreme. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 19:44:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T0iHWm025581 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:44:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:44:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060B435@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:25:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:25:57 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3T0FtEo026466 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:15:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 36839 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Apr 2005 00:15:55 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:15:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: .asf Message-ID: <20050429001555.GB33936@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://www.google.com is your friend. > http://www.users.on.net/~nat_tomic/google/ Thanks everyone for evoking that wonderful 1998 feeling. "LOL" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 19:51:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T0pfWm026545 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:51:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:51:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060B46D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:51:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 79023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:51:41 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T0peSf030720 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:51:40 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:51:40 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:51:27 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yippee!! I scored in the negative numbers! They say I'm damn Commie BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 04/28/05 5:42 PM >>> http://paulkienitz.net/republican.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 19:58:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T0wfWm027869 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:58:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:58:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060B47F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:58:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 79276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:58:41 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T0weDe031479 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:58:40 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:58:40 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:58:02 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: ok Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I love it when you speak roughly. BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 04/28/05 8:29 PM >>> Their aims are much more harmless than you think: shoring up each other's self-esteem, roughly speaking. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 20:11:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T1BLWm029401 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:11:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:11:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060B3F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:11:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 79750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:11:21 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T1BKVM032572; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:11:21 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 98248091; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:11:20 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181134.026a9610@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:11:47 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: radio In-Reply-To: <20050429001414.GA33936@words-l.org> References: <200504281633.j3SGXF0S022229@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050429001414.GA33936@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:14 PM 4/28/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Please: do not use "AM" (worse, "the AM") as a noun to mean morning. >It's hokey in the extreme. I've made a note. Thank you. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 20:14:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T1EbWm029592 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:14:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:14:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060B3F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:14:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 79818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:14:37 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T1EaQa000321; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:14:37 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 98248999; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:14:35 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181241.026aeb50@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:15:03 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why bother to confirm the obvious? I don't this stuff. How silly to find out what kind dog or whatever you are, too. Secondly, who cares? Betty P.S. I thought it was from Paul Kurtz. At 05:51 PM 4/28/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Yippee!! I scored in the negative numbers! They say I'm damn Commie > >BrP > > > >Paul Barfoot >Special Collections Research Center >Syracuse University Library > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 04/28/05 5:42 PM >>> >http://paulkienitz.net/republican.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:17:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2H8Wm003325 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:17:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:17:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060B4DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:17:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 84727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:17:08 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T2H7sY009990 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:17:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429021707.SARS2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:17:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42719920.2090108@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:17:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042714273c0e285b@mail.gmail.com> <712692552.20050427153005@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050427144820f41176@mail.gmail.com> <997515594.20050428072348@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <997515594.20050428072348@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >AFoA> AFAIK, contacting him was never a goal. I certainly have no intention of >AFoA> doing so. > >Never said you did. But you're not the only one reading the message, >either. > > I think it quite unlikely that any Wordsler would be trying to get in touch with The Tenant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:20:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2KNWm003661 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:20:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:20:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060B411@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:20:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 84870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:20:22 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T2KMXk010281 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:20:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429022022.SCVK2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:20:22 -0400 Message-ID: <427199E3.2000100@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:20:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'regular radio'? References: <42701FDC.7020609@maynor.net> <21993820.20050428073810@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <21993820.20050428073810@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I don't know the exact definition of "regular radio," but did I mention >NM> here my discovery of a really great jazz station in Jackson? I remember >NM> mentioning it in e-mail but don't remember whether it was here. It's >NM> the Jackson State University station and is really, really good. I've >NM> started switching back and forth between it and MPB (formerly PRM) in my >NM> car, plus every once in a while switching to the oldies station. > >I'd consider the jazz and oldies stations to be "regular radio". > I don't know that the jazz station I was referring to would fall into the category of "regular radio" since it is a college station, intended for training students for future radio jobs, and since it's somehow related to public radio in that it airs certain NPR things when it's not playing jazz. (But it plays jazz most of the time.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:21:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2LtWm003849 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:21:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:21:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060B412@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:21:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 84892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:21:55 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T2LsZj010395 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:21:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429022154.SDRV2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:21:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42719A3F.2070306@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:21:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> <427032CC.2060807@maynor.net> <1144320061.20050428074833@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1144320061.20050428074833@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Maybe he'll be the next John Wayne or something? > > Somehow I don't think so. I think the other Wordslers who met him will agree that he's not the JW type. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:23:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2NZWm003971 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:23:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:23:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060B5CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:23:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 84921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:23:35 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T2NYu4010468 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:23:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429022334.SEXL2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:23:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42719AA3.5010905@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:23:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for Online Radio-Listners [was Re: radio] References: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> <934649367.20050428082141@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <934649367.20050428082141@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >4/28/2005, 7:11 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> I got two immediate replies, one asking me if I knew >NM> of a good oldies station online and another if I knew of a good blues >NM> station online. I don't. Do y'all? > >My suggestions for further research are > >http://www.radiotower.com/ and > >http://www.web-radio.com/fr_list.cfm > > Thanks. I don't have time for research now, alas. Today has been extremely hectic, and the next few days promise to be the same. I thought maybe somebody here would know of a particular station of the top of the head. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:27:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2R1Wm004306 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:27:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:27:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060B5D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:27:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:27:01 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T2R1Vi010788 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:27:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429022701.SGVB2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:27:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42719B71.9050403@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:26:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: .asf References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >The downloaded file was an .asf file - what program runs such files? > > I dunno. I wouldn't bother with that kind of thing for a purpose like listening to a radio station recommended by me. I just clicked on the "listen" button, and the music started, with a picture of a spinning record. If the music handed started, I would've moved on and not listened. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:32:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2WSWm004832 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:32:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:32:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F334AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:32:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:32:25 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T2WObp011493 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:32:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429023224.SKLP2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:32:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42719CB5.1090609@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:32:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: jazz References: <8ddfc8a7050428104579c496b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050428104579c496b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just turned on wjsu again and noted that my computer said that Window's Media Player was playing it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:35:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2ZTWm005113 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:35:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:35:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060B5E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:35:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:35:29 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T2ZSF2011844 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:35:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429023528.SMDR2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:35:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42719D6D.9080009@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:35:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: thoughts while washing windows References: <20050425195019.KCXA2986.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <426D7D20.1080603@maynor.net> <426E55F4.7040003@akad.ee> <426EC92E.4080901@maynor.net> <42712933.6010400@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42712933.6010400@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Which makes me think: are there also countries where tourists go to a > shoemaker to order shoes ideal for their feet. Finding fitting shoes may > be even a bigger problem. I've never been to a shoemaker, but I would definitely say that Japan is the country to go to for store-bought shoes that feel good on my feet. I was sorry I didn't have time for shoe-shopping on my last trip (except that I don't really need any shoes -- it's rare in my current life for me to need anything other than Birkenstocks, which also make my feet happy, and of which I have plenty at the moment). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:37:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2bEWm005319 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:37:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:37:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060B42E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:37:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:37:14 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T2bDvp012095 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:37:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429023713.SNAP2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:37:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42719DD6.7070407@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:37:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? References: <200504281621.j3SGLLCE019800@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050428202122.GA26111@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050428202122.GA26111@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >= >Tell more about J.D. Salinger's daughter's book, please. Did she know her >= >father very well? What is the name of it? >= >= She knew him quite well -- she was the favorite daughter, treated almost >= like a lover. I think the book is called "Dreamcatcher," but you can check >= Amazon under Peggy Salinger to confirm that. > >Unless both the dead people server and rotten.com are wrong, J.D. >Salinger is still alive. > > How did whether he was quick or dead enter this thread? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:39:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2dOWm005602 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:39:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:39:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060B434@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:39:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:39:24 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T2dOTS012401 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:39:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429023923.SOOF2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: <42719E58.9070006@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:39:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Yippee!! I scored in the negative numbers! They say I'm damn Commie > > I found the first question impossible to answer and thus gave up. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:40:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2e7Wm005731 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:40:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:40:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060B5EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:40:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:40:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3T2U6Mc011166 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:30:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 39065 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Apr 2005 02:30:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:30:04 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ok Message-ID: <20050429023004.GA28351@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU LOL.:) On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:58:02PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I love it when you speak roughly. > > BrP > > Paul Barfoot > Special Collections Research Center > Syracuse University Library > >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 04/28/05 8:29 PM >>> > > Their aims are much more harmless than you > think: shoring up each other's self-esteem, roughly speaking. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:42:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2gKWm005994 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:42:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:42:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060B540@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:42:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:42:19 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T2gJtE012649 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:42:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429024219.SQFW2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:42:19 -0400 Message-ID: <42719F07.4040303@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:42:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181241.026aeb50@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181241.026aeb50@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Why bother to confirm the obvious? I don't this stuff. How > silly to > find out what kind dog or whatever you are, too. Secondly, who cares? I'm much more interested in finding out what kind of dog I am than whether I'm a Republican. Did I mention how happy I am about having rearranged furniture to make me able to open the loveseat hide-a-bed in this room before the Iowa person arrived -- about how Spencer's favorite chair is now right beside my bed? At first I thought he wasn't going to use it in its new location, but he slept on it all night last night. I love having him right beside me. > P.S. I thought it was from Paul Kurtz. The next-door wolf ate him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:48:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2mLWm006846 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:48:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:48:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060B442@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:48:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:48:21 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3T2cK0Y012307 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:38:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 48613 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Apr 2005 02:38:20 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:38:20 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: radio Message-ID: <20050429023820.GB28351@words-l.org> References: <200504281633.j3SGXF0S022229@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050429001414.GA33936@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181134.026a9610@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181134.026a9610@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 06:11:47PM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: > At 05:14 PM 4/28/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >Please: do not use "AM" (worse, "the AM") as a noun to mean morning. > >It's hokey in the extreme. > > I've made a note. Thank you. No, thank YOU! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 21:49:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T2neWm006970 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:49:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:49:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060B54E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:49:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:49:39 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3T2dcEg012415 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:39:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 49522 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Apr 2005 02:39:38 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:39:38 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? Message-ID: <20050429023938.GC28351@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181241.026aeb50@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181241.026aeb50@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 06:15:03PM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: > Why bother to confirm the obvious? I don't this stuff. How silly to > find out what kind dog or whatever you are, too. Secondly, who cares? I think these quizzes are, like, for NPR listeners or something From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 22:09:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T39iWm009067 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:09:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:09:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060B788@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:09:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 90522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:09:44 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T39i6F016413 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:09:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.107]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429030943.KIBP2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:09:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:09:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: City Life Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The final instructions for tomorrow's rummage sale were given by the church president late this afternoon: If facing a gun or a knife, give up the money box immediately. It was also agreed that the two of us getting there to open the sale tomorrow (also Saturday, though a different two -- but I'm on the first shift both days) should sit in our locked car in the parking lot until the other person arrives -- that nobody should be there alone. After living in a small town for many years (and having grown up in a Jackson that was very different from today's Jackson), I'm finding it difficult to adjust to the . I also need to keep some secrets in order not to be deemed mutant beyond words. When I've mentioned that I have an alarm system but it's not activated, people are shocked (that I would live in a house without an active alarm system). And when I've said that I sleep with open windows (at times of year like now), people look at me as if I'm from Mars and tell me that that is a Very, Very Bad Thing To Do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Apr 28 22:21:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T3L8Wm010693 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:21:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:21:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060B861@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:21:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 91043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:21:08 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T3L7MJ017673; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:21:07 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 98278043; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:21:06 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428202116.02699d70@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:21:31 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: radio In-Reply-To: <20050429023820.GB28351@words-l.org> References: <200504281633.j3SGXF0S022229@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050429001414.GA33936@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181134.026a9610@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429023820.GB28351@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:38 PM 4/28/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 06:11:47PM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: > > At 05:14 PM 4/28/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Please: do not use "AM" (worse, "the AM") as a noun to mean morning. > > >It's hokey in the extreme. > > > > I've made a note. Thank you. > >No, thank YOU! :-) Bless your heart. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 00:07:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T570Wm023401 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:07:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:07:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F33A8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 1:06:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 97288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:06:58 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T56vn9026204 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:06:57 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3T56u2H029081 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:06:56 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3T56t6O029079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:06:55 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:06:55 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? Message-ID: <20050429050655.GA29029@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200504281621.j3SGLLCE019800@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050428202122.GA26111@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42719DD6.7070407@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42719DD6.7070407@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 09:37:10PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = steph wrote: = = >= >Tell more about J.D. Salinger's daughter's book, please. Did she know = >her = >= >father very well? What is the name of it? = >= = >= She knew him quite well -- she was the favorite daughter, treated almost = >= like a lover. I think the book is called "Dreamcatcher," but you can = >check = >= Amazon under Peggy Salinger to confirm that. = > = >Unless both the dead people server and rotten.com are wrong, J.D. = >Salinger is still alive. = > = > = How did whether he was quick or dead enter this thread? = I entered it into the thread. I took the 'did' above not to mean the past, but that he had passed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 02:24:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3T7OAWm010075 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 02:24:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 02:24:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F33C8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 3:24:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 101989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 03:24:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3T7O3MD004305 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 03:24:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3T7O3dB029722 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:24:03 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3T7O2jx029720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:24:02 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:24:02 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life Message-ID: <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 10:09:40PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = If facing a gun or a knife, give = up the money box immediately. This seems quite reasonable. = It was also agreed that the two of us = getting there to open the sale tomorrow (also Saturday, though a = different two -- but I'm on the first shift both days) should sit in our = locked car in the parking lot until the other person arrives -- that = nobody should be there alone. This seems a bit much. = After living in a small town for many years (and having grown up in a = Jackson that was very different from today's Jackson), I'm finding it = difficult to adjust to the . I also need to keep = some secrets in order not to be deemed mutant beyond words. When I've = mentioned that I have an alarm system but it's not activated, people are = shocked (that I would live in a house without an active alarm system). = And when I've said that I sleep with open windows (at times of year like = now), people look at me as if I'm from Mars and tell me that that is a = Very, Very Bad Thing To Do. http://www.fedstats.gov/mapstats/crime/county/28059.html http://www.city.jackson.ms.us/Police/crime_facts.html Looks like you're likely to get stuff stolen more than anything else, though the rape numbers have gone up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 06:04:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TB44Wm011146 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:04:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:04:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F34161@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 7:04:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:04:03 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TB43P4014810 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:04:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.71.209]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429110403.OERX2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:04:03 -0400 Message-ID: <4272149F.70601@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:03:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >= locked car in the parking lot until the other person arrives -- that >= nobody should be there alone. > >This seems a bit much. > > Not really. Even I, overly UNcautious in many ways, would not feel comfortable at all being there alone. >http://www.fedstats.gov/mapstats/crime/county/28059.html > > The above url is for Jackson County, which a good many miles away from here. Jackson is in Hinds County. >http://www.city.jackson.ms.us/Police/crime_facts.html > >Looks like you're likely to get stuff stolen more than anything else, >though the rape numbers have gone up. > > There were thirteen more dangerous cities than Jackson whenever these figures were compiled: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0921299.html I've seen recent figures tossed about as the mayoral candidates battle it out re what they'll do about crime, but I don't remember them. Supposedly the homocide rate has dropped lately. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 06:09:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TB9jWm011827 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:09:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:09:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F3412B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 7:09:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:09:45 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TB9jh2015254 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:09:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.71.209]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429110945.OGTN2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:09:45 -0400 Message-ID: <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:09:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's a chart of crime rates for mid-sized cities, but I don't know exactly what all the figures mean -- no time to study it now. It does appear that Jackson's murder rate (14.4) is the highest of them all (but I don't really know what the 14.4 means -- gotta log off and go get ready to face the potentional robbers now): http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime4.aspx -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 08:46:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TDk8Wm030417 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:46:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:46:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F344E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 9:46:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:46:07 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TDk7JB001924 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:46:07 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1093888wra for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.1 with SMTP id w1mr1358622wrc; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.7 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:46:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BJXSFx0d6i0+xwK7clshoNShewoXsKqApNDk/0knk7SVl6mEIMhaG+1oiYfUyC6ix19p4hzjwX/SUw02uGH9ZOwMfPOdmuLyxRIBcgBN1TiQ90fUhenRN0d/dKmLYVljtf51MUHcL8NO034HKafP/XGl9/lK3khgw7qD+aO/aQA= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050429064635d49796@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:46:06 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... In-Reply-To: <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705042811286744cc94@mail.gmail.com> <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3TDk7JB001925 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome! On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. > > 'Alan > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 10:15:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TFFhWm009117 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:15:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:15:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F34900@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:15:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:15:41 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFFfOF018283 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:15:41 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18049610 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:16:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:16:01 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:15:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <122846494.20050429091540@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504281442792bf581@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70504281442792bf581@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 182, in=75080, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/28/2005, 3:42 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> http://paulkienitz.net/republican.html They say I'm 53 percent republican, whtever the hell that means. Here is their "analysis". Congratulations, you're a swing voter. When they say "Nascar Dad", they mean you. Every Republican ad on the TV set was made just for your viewing pleasure. Don't you feel special? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 10:18:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TFI2Wm009329 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:18:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:18:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F3490C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:18:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:18:02 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFI1Aj018598 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:18:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18189495 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:18:24 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:18:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:18:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <986944677.20050429091801@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <42719920.2090108@maynor.net> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042714273c0e285b@mail.gmail.com> <712692552.20050427153005@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050427144820f41176@mail.gmail.com> <997515594.20050428072348@gailndan.com> <42719920.2090108@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 180, in=61122, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/28/2005, 8:17 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Never said you did. But you're not the only one reading the message, >>either. >> >> NM> I think it quite unlikely that any Wordsler would be trying to get in NM> touch with The Tenant. Well, from your reply there seemed to be some interest in what he was doing and where he was. No idea whether you want to get in touch with him or not. Or if you just want to touch him. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 10:20:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TFK5Wm009583 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:20:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:20:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060C4B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:20:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:20:05 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFK4Ul018971 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:20:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18050248 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:20:59 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:20:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:20:04 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1211411034.20050429092004@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'regular radio'? In-Reply-To: <427199E3.2000100@maynor.net> References: <42701FDC.7020609@maynor.net> <21993820.20050428073810@gailndan.com> <427199E3.2000100@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 182, in=75088, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/28/2005, 8:20 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>I'd consider the jazz and oldies stations to be "regular radio". >> NM> I don't know that the jazz station I was referring to would fall into NM> the category of "regular radio" since it is a college station, intended NM> for training students for future radio jobs, and since it's somehow NM> related to public radio in that it airs certain NPR things when it's not NM> playing jazz. (But it plays jazz most of the time.) Well, I wasn't referring to any specific stations, but even a college station I'd consider "regular radio" unless it is specifically NPR or similar. Yes, many students in college radio are hoping for careers in media, but many aren't. Some do it just for fun (I've done that both as a student back in the dark ages when you played real records, and in more recent years as a faculty member). Others do it for money, as many college radio stations have some paying jobs, at least for work study. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 10:20:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TFKjWm009649 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:20:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:20:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060C40A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:20:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:20:44 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFKhdD019074 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:20:43 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18210795 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:47:19 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:21:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:20:42 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1423041561.20050429092042@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <42719A3F.2070306@maynor.net> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <42701F3B.7010203@maynor.net> <427032CC.2060807@maynor.net> <1144320061.20050428074833@gailndan.com> <42719A3F.2070306@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 178, in=64029, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/28/2005, 8:21 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Maybe he'll be the next John Wayne or something? >> >> NM> Somehow I don't think so. I think the other Wordslers who met him will NM> agree that he's not the JW type. Well, maybe he'll just become the "something" I referred to. In fact, he may already be something. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 10:22:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TFMTWm009821 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:22:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:22:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060C417@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:22:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:22:29 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFMSMp019408 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:22:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18050586 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:23:23 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:22:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:22:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4210715192.20050429092228@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: talk radio? In-Reply-To: <42719DD6.7070407@maynor.net> References: <200504281621.j3SGLLCE019800@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050428202122.GA26111@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42719DD6.7070407@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 182, in=75093, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/28/2005, 8:37 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>= >Tell more about J.D. Salinger's daughter's book, please. Did she know her >>= >father very well? What is the name of it? >>= >>= She knew him quite well -- she was the favorite daughter, treated almost >>= like a lover. I think the book is called "Dreamcatcher," but you can check >>= Amazon under Peggy Salinger to confirm that. >> >>Unless both the dead people server and rotten.com are wrong, J.D. >>Salinger is still alive. >> >> NM> How did whether he was quick or dead enter this thread? I'd say it was because of the use of the past tense. "did she know him" would imply he was no longer around, as opposed to "does she know him". At least to me, and apparently others. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 10:23:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TFNDWm009880 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:23:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:23:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C314@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:23:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:23:13 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFNCG3019556 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:23:12 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18190215 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:23:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:23:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:23:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1743854740.20050429092312@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Are you a Republican? In-Reply-To: <42719E58.9070006@maynor.net> References: <42719E58.9070006@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 180, in=61129, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/28/2005, 8:39 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Yippee!! I scored in the negative numbers! They say I'm damn Commie >> >> NM> I found the first question impossible to answer and thus gave up. You were smart. Some of the later ones were worse. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 10:24:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TFOPWm009998 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:24:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:24:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C31E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:24:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:24:21 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFOKpa019841 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:24:21 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17910080 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:39:22 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:24:40 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:24:20 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1331891377.20050429092420@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Are you a Republican? In-Reply-To: <20050429023938.GC28351@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181241.026aeb50@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429023938.GC28351@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 182, in=62433, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/28/2005, 8:39 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 06:15:03PM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: >> Why bother to confirm the obvious? I don't this stuff. How silly to >> find out what kind dog or whatever you are, too. Secondly, who cares? DMH> I think these quizzes are, like, for NPR listeners or something That particular one certainly was. And it was designed to be nothing but "cute" and "clever" rather than anything meaningful. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 10:26:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TFPsWm010159 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:25:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:26:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C338@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:25:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:25:54 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFPspf020220 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:25:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18211457 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:52:30 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:26:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:25:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <131619900.20050429092553@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 178, in=64034, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/28/2005, 9:09 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> After living in a small town for many years (and having grown up in a NM> Jackson that was very different from today's Jackson), I'm finding it NM> difficult to adjust to the . I also need to keep NM> some secrets in order not to be deemed mutant beyond words. When I've NM> mentioned that I have an alarm system but it's not activated, people are NM> shocked (that I would live in a house without an active alarm system). NM> And when I've said that I sleep with open windows (at times of year like NM> now), people look at me as if I'm from Mars and tell me that that is a NM> Very, Very Bad Thing To Do. Unfortunately, they're right. But it is your house, your body, your life, and thus your choice. As far as being deemed mutant beyond words, why should your city friends believe anything different from what your net friends believe? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 10:39:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TFdMWm012317 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:39:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:39:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060C510@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:29:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:29:21 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFT8ep020743 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:29:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17910690 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:44:10 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:29:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:29:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <748092857.20050429092908@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: City Life In-Reply-To: <4272149F.70601@maynor.net> References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4272149F.70601@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 182, in=62435, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/29/2005, 5:03 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> There were thirteen more dangerous cities than Jackson whenever these NM> figures were compiled: NM> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0921299.html whoopdeedo. And do you think that the residents of those places don't take precautions too? NM> I've seen recent figures tossed about as the mayoral candidates battle NM> it out re what they'll do about crime, but I don't remember them. NM> Supposedly the homocide rate has dropped lately. Statistics don't mean a shit if you're one of the statistics. That goes for both murder victim and lottery winner. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 10:43:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TFhYWm012817 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:43:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:43:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060C4CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:43:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:43:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFhYbF023435 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:43:34 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:43:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:43:30 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU All of the questions on all of these stupid tests are stupid and so are the answers. That's half the fun. I think of them the same way I think of the horoscope in the newspaper, or fortune cookies. Anybody who takes them too seriously is just no fun at all. BrP >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/29/2005 11:23:12 AM >>> 4/28/2005, 8:39 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Yippee!! I scored in the negative numbers! They say I'm damn Commie >> >> NM> I found the first question impossible to answer and thus gave up. You were smart. Some of the later ones were worse. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 11:13:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TGDZWm022039 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:13:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:13:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060C53A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TG3YLt026492 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:34 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:34 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:26 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU yup The results were pretty accurate for me as well. I AM a damn commie. We should write a "which wordsler are you ?" test - have everyone take it and see if we are all who we say we are. BrP >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 4/29/2005 11:57:27 AM >>> True enough. That's why I took it. I will say, despite their stupid questions, some of which I couldn't give a realistic answer to, they got the percentage about right. I'm very liberal on some issues, very conservative on others. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 11:13:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TGDZWm022042 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:13:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:13:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C433@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TG3n9F026614 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:03:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so961548nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.91.2 with SMTP id o2mr211061nzb; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:03:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CpyP+ldc1qYQRDIP81RYOvpI95zmHy8Yir9VO5iqqT29kkZ+JgBzBifBiSenGVnA6kV2/VRwU7hief06ixSQXnD1cxy+QE5rDk1GfvqZ7TDGzCl4mGTCnOHPFhttlEkMkOE4reLAa5HbZqeWynv9sK7EGBeswPpUpX47fsbya8g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042909035924916c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:03:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TGDZWm022042 On 4/29/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > All of the questions on all of these stupid tests are stupid and so are > the answers. That's half the fun. I think of them the same way I think > of the horoscope in the newspaper, or fortune cookies. Anybody who takes > them too seriously is just no fun at all. > Perzackly. And we *know* I'm fun. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 11:13:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TGDZWm022041 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:13:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:13:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060C613@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:12:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:12:19 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TGCIlp028515 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:12:19 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 55510966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:12:18 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:12:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> References: <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And if bonniev were here she'd give statistics for unreal Maine. . What is everyone doing this week end? Betty At 09:56 AM 4/29/2005 -0600, you wrote: >4/29/2005, 5:09 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> Here's a chart of crime rates for mid-sized cities, but I don't know >NM> exactly what all the figures mean -- no time to study it now. It does >NM> appear that Jackson's murder rate (14.4) is the highest of them all (but >NM> I don't really know what the 14.4 means -- gotta log off and go get >NM> ready to face the potentional robbers now): > >NM> http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime4.aspx > >The first numbers are index numbers for comparison that they've >developed to combine the various categories. You'll have to read >their full description in case you care to. > >CRIME Jackson, Mississippi Boise, Idaho National Avg. >Violent Crime 1095.1 307.4 446.1 >Property Crime 9473 4452.3 4162.2 > >CATEGORIES crimes per 100,000 pop. >Murder 23.7 1.2 3.9 >Rape 130.6 46 32.8 >Robbery 577.1 41.7 116.3 >Assault 363.8 218.4 293 >Burglary 2534.6 795.9 761.4 >Larceny 5108.7 3452.4 3037.8 >Auto Theft 1829.6 204.1 361.8 > >On some other things, though.... > >Boise and Jackson both spend well below the national average on >schools. Both have more PhDs than average cities. Both have better >air and water quality than average. Boise's per capita income is >above the national average, while Jackson's is far below. Same for >cost of living. Your sales taxes are higher, ours are lower than national >average. Population numbers about the same, though yours declining, >ours growing very rapidly. Perhaps more important than anything else, >we've got 8 starbucks, you have none. > >No, not trying to convince you to move here. We've got too damn many >moving here already. > >dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 11:13:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TGDZWm022036 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:13:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:13:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C44A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:10:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:10:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TGAFmf028191 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:10:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so963443nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.32.10 with SMTP id f10mr211669nzf; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:10:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AeWJvQiuRlG7D9ImRi+XXrfXQ///bMgBOJtwflko3SZmtpiNFj6NPtYMxu0Wt6yvJltRzzZYI6zU01y/996XuB+d8vQEL5hAZq7zI65rz+XWSm7iV1ZtK0VFD/Y8rp4Bt4kHr5llyaUhkHzTWuuQGRaqAhyKFGS76BeHhIBFybQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504290910716ff2c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:10:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TGDZWm022036 On 4/29/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > yup The results were pretty accurate for me as well. I AM a damn > commie. I am 20% Republican--but I think that was because I caved at the end and called Reagan a visionary. We should write a "which wordsler are you ?" test - have everyone take > it and see if we are all who we say we are. > LOL. How would they tell us apart? Oh, wait--chocolate.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 11:16:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TGGMWm022380 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:16:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:16:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F34AB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:57:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:57:28 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFvRQj025440 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:57:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18215830 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:24:04 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:57:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:57:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <926122137.20050429095727@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Are you a Republican? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 178, in=64055, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU True enough. That's why I took it. I will say, despite their stupid questions, some of which I couldn't give a realistic answer to, they got the percentage about right. I'm very liberal on some issues, very conservative on others. 4/29/2005, 9:43 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> All of the questions on all of these stupid tests are stupid and so are PB> the answers. That's half the fun. I think of them the same way I think PB> of the horoscope in the newspaper, or fortune cookies. Anybody who takes PB> them too seriously is just no fun at all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 11:16:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TGGMWm022379 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:16:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:16:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F34AAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:56:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:56:21 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TFuLXW025298 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:56:21 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 17914342 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:11:23 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:56:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:56:20 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: City Life In-Reply-To: <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 182, in=62464, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/29/2005, 5:09 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Here's a chart of crime rates for mid-sized cities, but I don't know NM> exactly what all the figures mean -- no time to study it now. It does NM> appear that Jackson's murder rate (14.4) is the highest of them all (but NM> I don't really know what the 14.4 means -- gotta log off and go get NM> ready to face the potentional robbers now): NM> http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime4.aspx The first numbers are index numbers for comparison that they've developed to combine the various categories. You'll have to read their full description in case you care to. CRIME Jackson, Mississippi Boise, Idaho National Avg. Violent Crime 1095.1 307.4 446.1 Property Crime 9473 4452.3 4162.2 CATEGORIES crimes per 100,000 pop. Murder 23.7 1.2 3.9 Rape 130.6 46 32.8 Robbery 577.1 41.7 116.3 Assault 363.8 218.4 293 Burglary 2534.6 795.9 761.4 Larceny 5108.7 3452.4 3037.8 Auto Theft 1829.6 204.1 361.8 On some other things, though.... Boise and Jackson both spend well below the national average on schools. Both have more PhDs than average cities. Both have better air and water quality than average. Boise's per capita income is above the national average, while Jackson's is far below. Same for cost of living. Your sales taxes are higher, ours are lower than national average. Population numbers about the same, though yours declining, ours growing very rapidly. Perhaps more important than anything else, we've got 8 starbucks, you have none. No, not trying to convince you to move here. We've got too damn many moving here already. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 12:34:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3THXvWm030623 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:33:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:34:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C60F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:33:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:33:57 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3THXv8s006411 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:33:57 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060C718@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:33:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200504291733.j3THXv8s006411@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:33:57 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:57:27 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >True enough. That's why I took it. I will say, despite their stupid >questions, some of which I couldn't give a realistic answer to, they >got the percentage about right. I'm very liberal on some issues, very >conservative on others. > >4/29/2005, 9:43 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >PB> All of the questions on all of these stupid tests are stupid and so are >PB> the answers. That's half the fun. I think of them the same way I think >PB> of the horoscope in the newspaper, or fortune cookies. Anybody who takes >PB> them too seriously is just no fun at all. I'm really disappointed. I was hoping that, no matter how one answered, the same score - or at least the same label - would come up. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 12:37:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3THbTWm031000 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:37:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:37:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C620@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:37:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:37:28 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3THbSaC007304 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:37:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F34E26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:37:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200504291737.j3THbSaC007304@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:37:28 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:12:17 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >And if bonniev were here she'd give statistics for unreal Maine. . > >What is everyone doing this week end? > >Betty 1) going w/ family to Hitchhiker's movie if we can get in. 2) back to work till 2am or so, unless I fall asleep in movie. 3) work and write final draft on paper and conference proposal, 8 am to 6 pm Sat 4) Sat evening, attend art show by thesis student, as part of work requirement 5) back to work till 2 am or so. 6) Sunday - work and paper all day and night 7) Monday - see Sunday, but sneak out for 3 hrs in evening to open mic. etc. *Yawn* What are you doing? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 12:41:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3THfWWm031429 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:41:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:41:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060C7F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:41:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:41:32 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3THfWwv008405 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:41:32 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F34E1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:41:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200504291741.j3THfWwv008405@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:41:32 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:56:20 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: Perhaps more important than anything else, >we've got 8 starbucks, you have none. > >No, not trying to convince you to move here. We've got too damn many >moving here already. No, no, no. One moves *away from* Starbucks, not *toward* them. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 12:43:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3THhaWm031783 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:43:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:43:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C648@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:43:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:43:35 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3THhZCN008900 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:43:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18067956 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:44:30 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:43:55 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:43:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <48820926.20050429114334@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: City Life In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 182, in=75177, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/29/2005, 10:12 AM, Betty Clark wrote: BC> And if bonniev were here she'd give statistics for unreal Maine. . BC> What is everyone doing this week end? Saturday will be mostly yard work if rain holds off. Sunday is autocross all day. Bridge game tonight. Probably more yard work late Sunday. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 12:46:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3THkrWm032144 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:46:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:46:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060C7CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:46:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:46:52 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3THkqF6010591 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:46:52 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18068577 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:47:47 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:47:12 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:46:51 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <862086395.20050429114651@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: City Life In-Reply-To: <200504291741.j3THfWwv008405@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504291741.j3THfWwv008405@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 182, in=75181, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/29/2005, 11:41 AM, Janet Hardy wrote: JH> No, no, no. One moves *away from* Starbucks, not *toward* them. Why? You loyal to a different brand? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 12:49:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3THmxWm032327 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:49:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:49:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060C891@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:48:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:48:54 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3THmr5R011363 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:48:53 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18212480 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:49:15 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:49:13 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:48:53 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200504291748.j3THmr5R011363@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:48:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1574633118.20050429114853@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Fwd: Privet Cam Resent-from: Dan Lester MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 180, in=61236, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've seen webcams of all sorts of things, but never anyone's privet hedge. Does MSU have one of privets? You do have an ag dept, don't you? dan This is a forwarded message From: Sonia Quinn To: dan@gailndan.com Date: Friday, April 29, 2005, 12:16:41 PM Subject: Privet Cam ===8<==============Original message text=============== I'm Julie. I finally got what I been dreaming about. my own site, W00t W00t! :D. I am fun, spontaneous and I love wearing red lingerer Hehe. That just came from nowhere. Anyways, I would love to chat with you. if you have a moment to spare, log in, in to my members area, its totally free and we can start chatting. Luv Julie http://inhumane.skipgrand.info/ju2/ ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Dan Lester dan@gailndan.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 12:49:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3THnQWm032452 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:49:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:49:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060C896@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:49:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:49:25 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3THnPHe011570 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:49:25 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:49:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:48:53 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: City Life Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm going to spend the weekend in the woods with 50 or so of my friends. It is an annual tradition - I think this is about 22 or 23 years now. It will be strange to be doing this without my son, but he is off in the wilds of South Carolina somewhere leading a canoe trip with his guys. BrP >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 4/29/2005 12:12:17 PM >>> What is everyone doing this week end? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 12:51:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3THpmWm000010 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:51:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:51:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C6FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:51:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:51:48 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3THploD012424 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:51:47 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3THpkgm000328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:51:46 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3THpkTf000326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:51:46 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:51:46 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life Message-ID: <20050429175146.GA32749@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 09:12:17AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: = And if bonniev were here she'd give statistics for unreal Maine. . = = What is everyone doing this week end? = = Betty = Queen's day. Going to be up partying late tonight and then tomorrow people might come 'round. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:30:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIUZWm004488 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:30:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:30:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C831@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:29:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:29:37 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TITber020445 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:29:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F350E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:29:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200504291829.j3TITber020445@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:29:37 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:25:50 -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: >Terry, Did that actually mean something? > Marie > > On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: >> >> Welcome! >> >> >> On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: >> > I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. >> > >> > 'Alan This seems perfectly clear to me. Alan has adopted Terry's preferred method of packing. True, Terry? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:31:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIUZWm004489 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:30:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:30:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060C92A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:51 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TIPpdK019896 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:51 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1054515wri for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.121.2 with SMTP id t2mr1490425wrc; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:25:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JCULJYe//hW0MxHE7/LjCXZ8T+Ktt67XvpNQ7ncDmK8Wjm5Fe+nwea2pQBl/KRdZdS97edYvVSKtuCNK/cgmJSOWJH7xyT0dsPtNo9JC2YXAZgaDrI+XgDgIGvKk5DUeI9anFuXpOCGmJ/K92hO2lahx4p/8si1tLTU7oDTZ5Ho= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:25:50 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... In-Reply-To: <44dce1c1050429064635d49796@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042811286744cc94@mail.gmail.com> <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <44dce1c1050429064635d49796@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TIUZWm004489 Terry, Did that actually mean something? Marie On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > Welcome! > > > On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. > > > > 'Alan > > > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:31:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIUZWm004485 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:30:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:31:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C7F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:20:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:20:34 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TIKY6S018966 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:20:34 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 55554702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:20:33 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050429111457.00bb9840@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:20:32 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <200504291737.j3THbSaC007304@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >1) going w/ family to Hitchhiker's movie if we can get in. >2) back to work till 2am or so, unless I fall asleep in movie. >3) work and write final draft on paper and conference proposal, >8 am to 6 pm Sat >4) Sat evening, attend art show by thesis student, as part of >work requirement >5) back to work till 2 am or so. >6) Sunday - work and paper all day and night >7) Monday - see Sunday, but sneak out for 3 hrs in evening to >open mic. > >etc. > >*Yawn* >What are you doing? >clo Well, I would be yawning from lack of sleep with your schedule. I don't do well if I don't get enough sleep. Mine is pretty boring other then going to spend tomorrow morning with our physical therapist and her twin daughters. Her partner is off to some class and it's nice to have two adults around and since she only works part time now we have some catching up to do. After that I have to start decluttering this 1200 square foot house for guests soon. I think I'd rather go into the woods with Paul. Our CD's to watch are piling up, too. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:33:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIXcWm004805 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:33:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:33:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C84E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:33:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:33:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TIXbfb021331 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:33:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1183123wra for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.42 with SMTP id 42mr1875361wrc; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.7 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:33:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RG0E1rnEtqwhiKkhOfffImuSj52GYZx2nzCV9hfN1cdFZOIwcD9gsqXH3Lii317bNR/z7+7dy8roEH8l2LQR7sfhTC2xLPgUIhVDT7bjGY32dJOUXL0cRbxaerRodvNKnA/YUnmBQRFX/UYHq3I54OzpJR3V+rZsZgPQkgZpzHE= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:33:32 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3TIXbfb021333 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What is everyone doing this week end? > > Betty playing in the garden between raindrops, planting some seeds, checking on henny penny who's sitting on some eggs, ferociously attacking and hopefully killing plantain which has vigorously taken over our lawn.and zestfully removing suffocating clutter. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:35:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIZVWm005003 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:35:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:35:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F3516D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:35:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:35:31 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TIZVEB021671 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:35:31 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1183621wra for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.5 with SMTP id w5mr1507169wrc; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.7 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:35:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mooHkcxxA9DL15+jnN8rrROHv/a2arMeZ98UfPQPEbB13qSQAeA1CskWNJmJanTwGhEE4/dYxJ42hwVbdF3lVRQzIbqdaL0ZeCXSjDV61Tqdzpg7wWX0EP+uYAtWL6MqhWu1ZLPn77w6epiv3wgruqzi1dpDfuZxgaCz6tyKoXU= Message-ID: <44dce1c105042911353dff6a63@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:35:30 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705042811286744cc94@mail.gmail.com> <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <44dce1c1050429064635d49796@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3TIZVEB021672 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU TP On 4/29/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Terry, Did that actually mean something? > Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:38:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIchWm005320 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:38:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:38:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F35189@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:38:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:38:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TIcgKp022183 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:38:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1184431wra for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.4 with SMTP id x4mr1506073wrc; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.7 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:38:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZlbVMn5v5CkIR6euu+wRlkPqxt7qy8rQgpQUXQdHEOre5AG68TReW8agkeSJrB0/lvQlbvpImTue9GuO9sOBuAVoUmTR7hPsm0JrPh7Zi4nn3lPjrZO+jV9Ez/zR5+NDmveGdj4voeU3Lq7R4cSnh8atGp1Q2lWORCzdaFZ3VI0= Message-ID: <44dce1c105042911386cf0c702@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:38:42 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... In-Reply-To: <200504291829.j3TITber020445@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200504291829.j3TITber020445@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3TIchKp022184 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > >> > I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. > >> > > >> > 'Alan > > This seems perfectly clear to me. Alan has adopted Terry's > preferred method of packing. True, Terry? > clo > You could say that in proper context. But in some packing situations it is better to be a roller than a folder. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:49:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIn0Wm006486 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:49:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:49:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060CA2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:38:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:38:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TIcxCG022223 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:38:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1057728wri for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.33 with SMTP id 33mr364432wrz; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:38:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dHTCMrTFUVzn9zvpkvKL1FlXKVS1SWyfeTJnAEsJV/kXfEuvl3drdj+Rp+mgfJg9nI5Wmc8eC+Kst7tLUGB//s/DBeKK5BmyCKzA01wzmc1a67PIkf+tG0v3j4Dkd/QAWxV9PtFu6tPfQjuFq60SRzdb0YvR/SkcNmsQisROP08= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:38:59 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TIn0Wm006486 Maybe getting some weeding and gardening done here as well. Cooking a batch of tortilla soup. And taking the girls to the park. I want them to swing! Marie On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > > What is everyone doing this week end? > > > > Betty > > playing in the garden between raindrops, planting some seeds, checking > on henny penny who's sitting on some eggs, ferociously attacking and > hopefully killing plantain which has vigorously taken over our > lawn.and zestfully removing suffocating clutter. > > Terry > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:49:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIn5Wm006495 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:49:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:49:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C8AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:49:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:49:05 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TIn4hZ023929 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:49:04 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 55564106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:49:03 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050429114458.02fa5458@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:49:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: References: <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes! Higher, higher. Nathaniel is just beginning to enjoy his door frame jumper. He laughs and laughs. Did you salvage any of Alyce's plants that you planted? We finally got out tomato plants in. Betty At 03:38 PM 4/29/2005 -0300, you wrote: >Maybe getting some weeding and gardening done here as well. Cooking a batch >of tortilla soup. And taking the girls to the park. I want them to swing! > Marie > > On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > > > > What is everyone doing this week end? > > > > > > Betty > > > > playing in the garden between raindrops, planting some seeds, checking > > on henny penny who's sitting on some eggs, ferociously attacking and > > hopefully killing plantain which has vigorously taken over our > > lawn.and zestfully removing suffocating clutter. > > > > Terry > > > > > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:49:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIngWm006591 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:49:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:49:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F35199@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:39:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:39:41 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TIdfTo022362 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:39:41 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1057919wri for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.106.15 with SMTP id e15mr1737985wrc; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:39:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XZYxPGwyBsIYW1hJLltMxb00eCnl1d4dXosLunJmO8aVNhmxj+k9wFllZzv5/Ivk+aq5nwfJVzGNhKdsKdoTpLjxdP2x2gv1vxAW72koddsEWUWIRFc4Nr2RPM8lU5x7dgEdW5XjDThzTbNCAMwef0lEdzvzh0glAqWOzMwkqLo= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:39:41 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... In-Reply-To: <200504291829.j3TITber020445@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504291829.j3TITber020445@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TIngWm006591 Ah I get it. I didn't have the context. Marie On 4/29/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:25:50 -0300, Marieber Meeber > wrote: > > >Terry, Did that actually mean something? > > Marie > > > > On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > >> > >> Welcome! > >> > >> > >> On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > >> > I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. > >> > > >> > 'Alan > > This seems perfectly clear to me. Alan has adopted Terry's > preferred method of packing. True, Terry? > clo > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:52:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIqFWm006841 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:52:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:52:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060CA7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:52:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:52:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TIqETl024418 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:52:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1009005nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr234121nzb; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:52:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Hc1AIJ21hz9klCZ+C/81JY06IHPqhhhWTnJglbWhd0NnEm3nZaZG916jRR82EagEbFq6Q6HJ5hNuZOzm/VvutFSLLcPQs5zNfoCvo4cpjQ8cI24cnAFVLOCafusS6c2vsClloP13Tcn/c7qtJzyH7KOpy7DySeBoLbXB36JfzHU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050429115231adbc48@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:52:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TIqFWm006841 On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > playing in the garden between raindrops, planting some seeds, checking > on henny penny who's sitting on some eggs, ferociously attacking and > hopefully killing plantain which has vigorously taken over our > lawn.and zestfully removing suffocating clutter. > Plantain? You have bananas growing in your lawn? Karen, stunned From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 13:59:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TIxiWm007654 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:59:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:59:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060CAB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:59:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:59:44 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TIxhVb025976 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:59:43 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3TIxgEa000683 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:59:42 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3TIxgNB000681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:59:42 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:59:42 +0200 To: words-l Subject: for Alyce Message-ID: <20050429185942.GA672@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2384 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 14:11:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TJBSWm009262 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:11:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:11:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060CAC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:01:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:01:28 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TJ1Rho026484 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:01:27 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1190280wra for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.3 with SMTP id w3mr1510311wrc; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.7 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:01:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Rb9mt3jwOr2IzjeB4PuKkOeMOa5qVZr1x7NdlNicHkVXL5dJKhd95vj48hXpQgmagVovLZ0T0+/KBScqA83wYyo0vEMktaApwKFF48nD+esNIlAE/8C0POXnLkyGH+kJrRSgLCnsogVvJLLwRkKHxq3HWg8/iu+Tt+z770qV3gU= Message-ID: <44dce1c10504291201492e10d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:01:27 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050429115231adbc48@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050429115231adbc48@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3TJ1Sho026485 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > Plantain? You have bananas growing in your lawn? > > Karen, stunned > I would be too! It's a weed: http://www.weedalert.com/weed_pages/wa_broadleaf_plantain.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 14:16:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TJG4Wm009688 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:16:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:16:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060CA6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:16:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:16:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TJG3fr029816 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:16:03 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1014890nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.9 with SMTP id h9mr237342nzb; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:16:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fQ3mlIcA7dSBVSgI+bJo4q68H4ZeCjQKD1JUg+0PCBNx0ZExALv6hd0i9N8utQmp9GbsfNoqoe66y5rM1uxSVP/3Np0AGz/iHHFUnAOnPXp2Znx6pr0AtDZZ5qnTVnoIfQHJtk+ALoBBJxiAph4ebxjiVV5W16DPzbmg3Ee9Ey4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504291216474258f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:16:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <44dce1c10504291201492e10d6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050429115231adbc48@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10504291201492e10d6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TJG4Wm009688 Why do they have the same name? Weird. I like to eat the bananas. On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > > > > > > > Plantain? You have bananas growing in your lawn? > > > > Karen, stunned > > > > I would be too! > It's a weed: http://www.weedalert.com/weed_pages/wa_broadleaf_plantain.htm > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 14:25:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TJPHWm010462 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060CAAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:25:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:25:17 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TJPGPP031959 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:25:17 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so178974rne for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.11.30 with SMTP id 30mr3902702rnk; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.51 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:25:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DlZs9xUS0izdJhxloVWHR+VBpU9l9+qBx4XiQWDy4k06AYVyJVvGlhi9ifChHMd/ZAHzJ666I615N3vSszhfHueZWw8f2I4MqCnaXJKlyHFTWmtt69iruEjUVlFZKtLypCE6EDzc+j/q8PuWLDTMdyjQPCv61uK6kwdYUEfxHbQ= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:25:16 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504291216474258f3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050429115231adbc48@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10504291201492e10d6@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504291216474258f3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j3TJPHPP031961 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 4/29/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Why do they have the same name? Weird. I like to eat the bananas. > > On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Plantain? You have bananas growing in your lawn? > > > > > > Karen, stunned > > > > > > > I would be too! > > It's a weed: http://www.weedalert.com/weed_pages/wa_broadleaf_plantain.htm Didn't you have those in Michigan? They take over lawns here if allowed to. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 14:28:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TJScWm010707 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:28:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:28:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060C9B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:28:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:28:37 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TJSbZF032696 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:28:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F353FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:28:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:28:37 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:46:51 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >4/29/2005, 11:41 AM, Janet Hardy wrote: > >JH> No, no, no. One moves *away from* Starbucks, not *toward* them. > >Why? You loyal to a different brand? Starbucks has a well-documented, nasty corporate habit of renting space across the street from small independent coffee houses in order to drive them out of business. While I'll use Starbucks when I'm on the road in places that don't have small independent coffee houses, I try to avoid them when I'm in major cities. (Although I have a teeny little Chantico addiction that occasionally gets the better of me.) Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 14:31:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TJVQWm011093 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:31:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:31:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060CB87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:31:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:31:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TJVPOB001198 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:31:25 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F35415@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:31:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200504291931.j3TJVPOB001198@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:31:25 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Am supposed to be spending the night at Dossie's tonight, but I've got this nasty thing that's going around here -- no real symptoms but exhaustion and feverishness. I can't stay awake for more than a couple of hours. I left her a message to see whether she wants me in this condition or whether she'd rather reschedule -- waiting to hear back. Other than that, a tentative date to go with friends to the Alameda antiques market Sunday morning, but if this weather holds, probably not. Maybe a movie. Mostly sleep. Boringly, Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 14:54:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TJsIWm013966 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:54:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:54:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060CC41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:54:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:54:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TJsCLZ007730 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:54:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1024234nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.13 with SMTP id j13mr242286nzj; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:54:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TmPu0moqSKy6z8X0Gh+AUM4F8mRJ1rDJZoTeu462ctVZ1kwMRaZ6oCxdQd31kUdIiPevcUOkYCGU6mYzEsVTh+LVKYby2AvjGIT1XzAPWcEckJCL0wbtw83qYAp91x3GUXedNxDunB0lb/C+OEnkNmPww1L2KmvE5Lz7Fz0hOf8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042912547a098598@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:54:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TJsIWm013966 What is Chantico? (Like I need a new addiction...) Karen On 4/29/05, Janet Hardy wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:46:51 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > > >4/29/2005, 11:41 AM, Janet Hardy wrote: > > > >JH> No, no, no. One moves *away from* Starbucks, not *toward* them. > > > >Why? You loyal to a different brand? > > Starbucks has a well-documented, nasty corporate habit of renting space > across the street from small independent coffee houses in order to drive > them out of business. While I'll use Starbucks when I'm on the road in > places that don't have small independent coffee houses, I try to avoid > them > when I'm in major cities. (Although I have a teeny little Chantico > addiction > that occasionally gets the better of me.) > > Janet > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 14:57:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TJvFWm014399 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:57:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:57:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060CB9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:57:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:57:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TJvEcx008347 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:57:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1024926nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.3 with SMTP id a3mr242362nzc; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:57:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZIpWiWhX18JAEEREjSc5JEa1N5OIwQMbDNRllHI6WQbT5Vujh/YS+2RCexSeOUkidFpGp2sBoECVVSMiX61DEukrKujnZbzwMmPK2Rw6NBJSB/KQjj51nCgejJuH31Byh1r31AWMNzKNrf/2NXOojST+Gz03d/BX3G3pMUYdFoI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042912579effd5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:57:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050429115231adbc48@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10504291201492e10d6@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70504291216474258f3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TJvFWm014399 On 4/29/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > > On 4/29/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Why do they have the same name? Weird. I like to eat the bananas. > > > > On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plantain? You have bananas growing in your lawn? > > > > > > > > Karen, stunned > > > > > > > > > > I would be too! > > > It's a weed: > http://www.weedalert.com/weed_pages/wa_broadleaf_plantain.htm > > Didn't you have those in Michigan? They take over lawns here if allowed > to. Oh, yeah. I remember using a screwdriver to pop them out--I got paid 50 cents a bucket. I have a few of those in my lawn here. But it was really the name that threw me rather than the object itself. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 15:03:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TK3qWm015543 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:03:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:03:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060CBD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:03:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 46181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:03:48 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TK3lSV009698 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:03:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18243787 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:30:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:04:07 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:03:47 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <126233839.20050429140347@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: City Life In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042912547a098598@mail.gmail.com> References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705042912547a098598@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 178, in=64211, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Basically liquid melted chocolate. Comes in a tiny cup, sort of like a chinese teacup. costs a bunch. about a million calories. check your local starbucks. dan 4/29/2005, 1:54 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> What is Chantico? (Like I need a new addiction...) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 15:15:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TKFAWm016515 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:15:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:15:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060CCCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:15:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 47376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:15:09 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TKF9X8012067 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:15:09 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1086396wri for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.121.3 with SMTP id t3mr1043475wrc; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:15:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=I0sb62SN7pr8C0dQpsh0xfgaeQs3LmfoRKDorwUwq+sVg2vBjdNjlxx5ze7kWxcOGCh6SUFkFxf0Abs/5F1QWj36gOz7TDljWXbzVTLgK5dPka2RM8xYRx3Uq95CG2r91OL8We2rCsOxqnngHFDrsQraF3Me6854qxzvhJCI3mU= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:15:07 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050429114458.02fa5458@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429114458.02fa5458@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TKFAWm016515 On 4/29/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > Yes! Higher, higher. Nathaniel is just beginning to enjoy his door frame > jumper. He laughs and laughs. Oh, I don't know what we'd do without the doorway jumpers. Melissa in particular will jump for up to an hour sometimes!!! Did you salvage any of Alyce's plants that you planted? We finally got out > tomato plants in. There's a couple things that have survived. One fern is beautiful, looks like it's been where it is forever. Then there's some other two plants that I don't even know, but I thought the one was a goner from the start and it seems to be thriving. I'll have to take a picture so someone can help me identify. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 15:19:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TKJaWm016953 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:19:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:19:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060CCE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:19:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 47738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:19:36 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TKJadt012784 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:19:36 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1087416wri for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.121.5 with SMTP id t5mr1269471wrc; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:19:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W3eRAXFRDwr8ReqdDRkCooPFpVScYXcfB0KNZ0mRZRmeWqTd2PYHAyPkHbv8YdtvSoSgL/B1rLpCbIcRdvJEVFE3ITZ/VeoeOqMVp452mHj/5Vg8uwORQJWUl5r6c1jrz8vpTpKwfuhEY5Dbhb35O+zwsAqRyv6kRzuBwvBS+9w= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:19:36 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Visiting Sweden In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3TKJaWm016953 On 4/26/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > I love pickled herring in cream sauce with onions! YUM-MO! > > > Why doesn't the cream sauce make you want to horf? > > I love it, too. Actually I eat a fair number of creamy things, and sour creamy things are among my favorite. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 15:35:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TKZMWm018810 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:35:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:35:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F357B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:35:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 50310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:35:20 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TKZGiZ016763 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:35:17 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 55601300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:35:13 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050429133436.00b9dc78@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:35:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Visiting Sweden In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:19 PM 4/29/2005 -0300, you wrote: >On 4/26/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > > > I love pickled herring in cream sauce with onions! YUM-MO! > > > > > Why doesn't the cream sauce make you want to horf? > > > > I love it, too. > > >Actually I eat a fair number of creamy things, and sour creamy things are >among my favorite. > -- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com And we're tossing our herring in cream sauce. Yucko! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 16:29:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TLTbWm024050 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:29:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:29:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060CD98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:29:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:29:37 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TLTaFl025801 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:29:36 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060CEA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:29:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200504292129.j3TLTaFl025801@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:29:36 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:54:12 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >What is Chantico? (Like I need a new addiction...) Like hot chocolate, cubed. So rich they only serve it in a 6 oz. cup. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 16:45:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TLj3Wm025964 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:45:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:45:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060CEC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:35:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:35:02 -0400 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TLZ0K3026710 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:35:01 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.92.25e102ec (4004) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:34:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <92.25e102ec.2fa40281@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:34:57 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 4/29/2005 11:12:34 AM Central Daylight Time, bclark@BERKELEY.EDU writes: << What is everyone doing this week end? >> Working, as usual, but working harder due to the fact that we've lost 4 people in the deli. For fun, I've been getting the Battlestar Galactica discs from Netflix and watching them. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 17:53:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TMrkWm001089 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:53:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:53:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F35BD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:53:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:53:46 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TMrjJo002511 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:53:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429225346.KRDB2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:53:46 -0400 Message-ID: <4272BAF6.8000008@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:53:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042714273c0e285b@mail.gmail.com> <712692552.20050427153005@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050427144820f41176@mail.gmail.com> <997515594.20050428072348@gailndan.com> <42719920.2090108@maynor.net> <986944677.20050429091801@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <986944677.20050429091801@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I think it quite unlikely that any Wordsler would be trying to get in >NM> touch with The Tenant. > >Well, from your reply there seemed to be some interest in what he was >doing and where he was. > I would hope that there seemed to be since that was it's direct statement. I really would like to know what he's doing and where. But I have no interest in getting in touch with him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 17:55:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TMtbWm001378 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:55:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:55:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F35B9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:55:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:55:37 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TMtaER002598 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:55:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429225536.KSKH2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:55:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4272BB65.2050402@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:55:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? References: <200504281621.j3SGLLCE019800@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050428202122.GA26111@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42719DD6.7070407@maynor.net> <4210715192.20050429092228@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <4210715192.20050429092228@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >>>= >Tell more about J.D. Salinger's daughter's book, please. Did she know her >>>= >father very well? What is the name of it? >>>= >>>= She knew him quite well -- she was the favorite daughter, treated almost >>>= like a lover. I think the book is called "Dreamcatcher," but you can check >>>= Amazon under Peggy Salinger to confirm that. >>> >>>Unless both the dead people server and rotten.com are wrong, J.D. >>>Salinger is still alive. >>> >>> >NM> How did whether he was quick or dead enter this thread? > >I'd say it was because of the use of the past tense. "did she know >him" would imply he was no longer around, as opposed to "does she know >him". At least to me, and apparently others. > > I understand that now -- from the earlier replies. But I thought of "Did she know her father very well" as referring to her childhood. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 18:11:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TNBlWm003765 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060CFD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:04:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:04:51 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TN4onN004871 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:04:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429230451.KXLG2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:04:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4272BD8F.3040809@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:04:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >All of the questions on all of these stupid tests are stupid and so are >the answers. That's half the fun. I think of them the same way I think >of the horoscope in the newspaper, or fortune cookies. Anybody who takes >them too seriously is just no fun at all. > > I agree. But the opening question on this one left me enough in a quandary that I couldn't move on. If you'll repost the url, maybe I'll try again and see if I can make up an answer to that first question and then move forward since I do like tests. (I've mentioned in church, btw, that one of the things that brought me to the UU Church was online quizzes that always deemed me 100% UU. They were right. I feel as if I've been a member forever -- feel totally . Love the UU philosophy and love my specific church.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 18:12:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TNBlWm003764 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060CFBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:01:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:00:27 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TN0Qrp003344 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:00:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429230026.KUXV2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:00:26 -0400 Message-ID: <4272BC87.1000003@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:00:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4272149F.70601@maynor.net> <748092857.20050429092908@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <748092857.20050429092908@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> There were thirteen more dangerous cities than Jackson whenever these >NM> figures were compiled: > >NM> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0921299.html > >whoopdeedo. And do you think that the residents of those places don't >take precautions too? > > Huh? I was replying to Steph's exploration of the crime figures for Jackson. It had nothing at all to do with -- except maybe that Steph said that she found it a bit extreme not to be willing to be alone in the UU Church for the rummage sale. I said that I didn't find that extreme -- that I would not want to do that. >NM> I've seen recent figures tossed about as the mayoral candidates battle >NM> it out re what they'll do about crime, but I don't remember them. >NM> Supposedly the homocide rate has dropped lately. > >Statistics don't mean a shit if you're one of the statistics. That >goes for both murder victim and lottery winner. > > So what does that have to do with the price of broccoli in Trinidad?? My reply was to Steph's posting about *statistics*. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 18:15:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TNEuWm004138 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:14:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:15:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060D124@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:14:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:14:56 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TNEtht007844 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:14:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429231455.IVIK2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:14:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4272BFEC.6070805@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:14:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >CRIME Jackson, Mississippi Boise, Idaho National Avg. >Violent Crime 1095.1 307.4 446.1 >Property Crime 9473 4452.3 4162.2 > > Thanks. This is the kind of thing we were talking about. > Both have more PhDs than average cities. > That's weird. I can't imagine why Jackson would have more PhDs than average. It's obvious why Mississippi towns like Starkville or Hattiesburg or Oxford would, but it doesn't make much sense for Jackson. Jackson has JSU, but that's a small university in a city big enough for its influence to be minimal (unlike Starkville, where probably 99% of the people I interacted with on a daily basis had PhDs). > Boise's per capita income is >above the national average, while Jackson's is far below. Same for >cost of living. > I'm not surprised about income but am about cost of living. I've played with some of the cost-of-living charts online before, comparing Jackson with various cities I could think of that were of comparable size. I can't think now what those cities were, though I remember that Providence was one. Jackson's cost-of-living is higher than Providence's. > Perhaps more important than anything else, >we've got 8 starbucks, you have none. > > Odd. I drive past one regularly. Hmm. I just realized that it's on the north side of County Line Road, not on the south side. That means it's in Ridgeland rather than in Jackson, though it would not occur to many people to think that that's not in Jackson -- sort of like I buy groceries in either Ridgeland or Madison usually but think of it as in Jackson, etc. etc. >No, not trying to convince you to move here. We've got too damn many >moving here already. > > Not to worry. I can't imagine any reason I would give even the most remote thought to wanting to live in Idaho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 18:25:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TNP5Wm005164 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:25:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:25:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060D037@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:25:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:25:05 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TNP4ji009480 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:25:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429232504.GXAM2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:25:04 -0400 Message-ID: <4272C24D.1040707@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:25:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > What is everyone doing this week end? I'm arriving at the church a little before 6 a.m. tomorrow to work again at the rummage sale -- and to lock myself up in the car if the other person isn't there yet so as not to be mugged, murdered, raped, or robbed. (We had the church treasurer come late this afternoon to take today's money. We did not want to be there with several hundred dollars tomorrow morning.) I'll be involved with that until mid afternoon and will then need to do some errand-running that I didn't get to do today since I ended up spending the whole day at the rummage sale, except for a quick lunch break around noon and then a quick trip home in mid afternoon to gather up some more sales items, like jewelry, which is selling like crazy. Sunday I'll go to church in the morning and then pick up the Starkville person at the airport that afternoon, the person whose car is in my garage right now. And by that time the weekend will be pretty much over. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 18:31:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TNVoWm005711 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:31:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:31:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060D046@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:31:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:31:49 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TNVnMI010259 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:31:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429233149.GZNC2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:31:49 -0400 Message-ID: <4272C3E1.8090204@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:31:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... References: <8ddfc8a705042811286744cc94@mail.gmail.com> <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <44dce1c1050429064635d49796@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >Terry, Did that actually mean something? > Marie > > On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > >>Welcome! >> >>On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: >> >> >>>I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. >>> >>> I guessed that it had to do with something like balling up clothes in drawers vs folding them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 18:33:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TNXJWm005763 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:33:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:33:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F35DDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:33:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:33:19 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TNXIrC010624 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:33:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429233318.HAEW2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:33:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4272C436.4010903@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:33:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... References: <8ddfc8a705042811286744cc94@mail.gmail.com> <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <44dce1c1050429064635d49796@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c105042911353dff6a63@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44dce1c105042911353dff6a63@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >TP > > >>Terry, Did that actually mean something? >>Marie >> >> Balling vs folding tp?? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 18:34:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TNYCWm005813 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:34:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:34:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060D156@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:34:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:34:11 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TNYBQV010746 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:34:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429233411.HAPG2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:34:11 -0400 Message-ID: <4272C46F.6010901@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:34:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c1050429113315191b04@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: > And taking the girls to the park. I want them to swing! > > I bet you're happy that it's this time this year instead of this time last year. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 18:45:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3TNjjWm007044 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:45:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:45:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060D068@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:45:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:45:44 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3TNjiod012262 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:45:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050429234416.PXXI1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:44:16 -0400 Message-ID: <4272C6CD.8090700@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:44:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > While I'll use Starbucks when I'm on the road in >places that don't have small independent coffee houses, I try to avoid them >when I'm in major cities. > I'm not sure whether what my neighborhood has would be considered "small independent coffee houses" -- as in I don't know that they create their own coffee. But there are a fair number of small coffee houses in my general neighborhood that seem to be for coffee snobs. Not being one, I don't know much about the situation. I've also noticed that in Rainbow Foods, a co-op in my neighborhood that also sells to non-members, there are lots of coffees available that I have a feeling coffee people ooh and ahh over. (Rainbow is a neat place, though. Within its walls is a great vegetarian sandwich shop. And I bought some exquisite tofu salad there -- the grocery store, not the restaurant -- not long ago to make sandwiches with.) My church sells Fair-Trade Coffee (or I think that's the name) -- coffee beans picked by small farmers or something like that. All I know about Starbucks is that it appears to be everywhere, including most airports, and that I've used restrooms in Starbucks on occasion, buying some kind of something of course since I don't think it's to use a restroom without buying something. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 19:48:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U0mVWm013086 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:48:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:48:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F35EBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:48:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:48:31 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U0mUxm006878 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:48:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430004830.NBYP2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:48:30 -0400 Message-ID: <4272D5DA.4080003@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:48:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for Online Radio-Listners [was Re: radio] References: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> <934649367.20050428082141@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <934649367.20050428082141@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >My suggestions for further research are > >http://www.radiotower.com/ and > >http://www.web-radio.com/fr_list.cfm > > Thanks again. I just got around to checking these sites. The first one isn't of interest to me since it's apparently an ad trying to get you to buy something. But the second one has some useful stuff. It's got quite a few dead links and doesn't include blues as a category (and thus won't help my friend who asked about a blues station), but I've found some live links of other kinds. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:16:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1GRWm016164 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:16:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:16:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F35EFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:06:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:06:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U16QqS014086 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:06:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1083203nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.12 with SMTP id h12mr275558nzh; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:06:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=M36jr3DxlzaCpPVusnIAqZvEm2tubm0xUz4K2tiYz9sf+IOc4LlI1yXc/XJboFVxhYxT9vC15s1cujLu33WDSnTlT/Ieax6uEQ1oVgVSG7mRnX61qnW4PVjF8hvr0THHCNwm3DXlxtU5hStm1qnLg+UPVh67YP1krrBUH82UoFQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042918067221eca0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:06:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for Online Radio-Listners [was Re: radio] In-Reply-To: <4272D5DA.4080003@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> <934649367.20050428082141@gailndan.com> <4272D5DA.4080003@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3U1GRWm016164 On 4/29/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Thanks again. > I am feeling chopped liverish! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:16:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1GRWm016165 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:16:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:16:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F35F0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:11:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:11:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1BH2Z014409 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:11:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1083754nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr276023nzb; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:11:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TaVA3ROJHx9hftscgRXBqaSKhloraXa5KKKlUJxhJSDX7aZE+uGhcVBJK4/DBnf5W8f7dp+KgV4IoO8quWfd3u/HhoIMe/jf8u/rPvH/5ojoeuYC67yEWcDRihsGSSCNLqVHHLrNtxdqm9s4asGPtUVF/gAutQiKI6UI686Gf18= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042918114d16e27e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:11:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <4272BAF6.8000008@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042714273c0e285b@mail.gmail.com> <712692552.20050427153005@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050427144820f41176@mail.gmail.com> <997515594.20050428072348@gailndan.com> <42719920.2090108@maynor.net> <986944677.20050429091801@gailndan.com> <4272BAF6.8000008@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3U1GRWm016165 On 4/29/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Dan Lester wrote: > > >NM> I think it quite unlikely that any Wordsler would be trying to get in > >NM> touch with The Tenant. > > > >Well, from your reply there seemed to be some interest in what he was > >doing and where he was. > > > I would hope that there seemed to be since that was it's direct > statement. I really would like to know what he's doing and where. But > I have no interest in getting in touch with him. > I thought it was mutant of Dan to think you might. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:17:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1HOWm016304 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:17:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:17:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F35ECE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:17:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:17:24 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1HOcw015165 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:17:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430011723.IUTD2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:17:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4272DCA0.9030902@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:17:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for Online Radio-Listners [was Re: radio] References: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> <934649367.20050428082141@gailndan.com> <4272D5DA.4080003@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042918067221eca0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042918067221eca0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I am feeling chopped liverish! > > Don't! I passed along your answer also -- but it was just a certain hour of a certain day of the week. I think what these people were looking for was all-day type offerings, as in a station dedicated to oldies or a station dedicated to blues. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:19:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1JdWm016419 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:19:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:19:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060D132@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:19:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:19:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1JdSa015401 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:19:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1084751nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr276835nzb; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:19:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nMIWxWFVjxS+8PT1obbsHVVjjm6MPGFMpqhjHMZ6+83lpbvJgw0SikVN4TfydFx4zRqXtTDyQCInQvXjsEnKNRGigej2ABdWVclUG+ISr0iTmUmJIudv3jxDcXh8D0UG6XwFgLc588LVirYI/MPzQBg05a+UhMZ5T70QpcZIKWc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042918191bee23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:19:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for Online Radio-Listners [was Re: radio] In-Reply-To: <4272DCA0.9030902@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> <934649367.20050428082141@gailndan.com> <4272D5DA.4080003@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042918067221eca0@mail.gmail.com> <4272DCA0.9030902@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3U1JdWm016419 That's what a) the article and b) the URL were for. On 4/29/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >I am feeling chopped liverish! > > > > > Don't! I passed along your answer also -- but it was just a certain > hour of a certain day of the week. I think what these people were > looking for was all-day type offerings, as in a station dedicated to > oldies or a station dedicated to blues. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:22:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1MYWm016731 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:22:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:22:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060D247@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:22:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:22:33 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1MXDe015709 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:22:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430012233.IXCZ2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:22:33 -0400 Message-ID: <4272DDD5.4010905@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:22:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of WJSU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I got so inspired by listening online (also in my car) to WJSU that I sent e-mail to the station manager telling him to change an errant it's to its on the website. Then a little while later I tried to make a donation to them online, but it didn't work. So I wrote him again asking him how to give. I got this very nice reply from him (forwarded without permission, but I bet he wouldn't care): > Thank you for listening to WJSU on the web. We also appreciate you for > informing us of the error in our text. > > We are working with our web providers to establish the e-commerce > part to our website. We are hopeful that it will be up and running soon. > > In the meantime, you may mail your check to: > WJSU Memberships > P.O. Box 18450 > Jackson, MS 39217 > > We will mail you your mug when your check is received It's just that > easy. Again, thank you for being more than a listener. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:24:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1OAWm016923 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:24:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:24:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060D248@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:24:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:24:10 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1OAKf015884 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:24:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430012410.IXWS2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:24:10 -0400 Message-ID: <4272DE36.3030803@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:24:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for Online Radio-Listners [was Re: radio] References: <068501c54bf0$d2dbedb0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <4270E0FF.4050602@maynor.net> <934649367.20050428082141@gailndan.com> <4272D5DA.4080003@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042918067221eca0@mail.gmail.com> <4272DCA0.9030902@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042918191bee23@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042918191bee23@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >That's what a) the article and b) the URL were for. > > I don't remember the article or the url -- just remembered that you recommended kut.org. I do remember that you were involved in the discussion of downloading special software and stuff like that -- stuff I don't want to get involved with. >On 4/29/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> >> >>>I am feeling chopped liverish! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Don't! I passed along your answer also -- but it was just a certain >>hour of a certain day of the week. I think what these people were >>looking for was all-day type offerings, as in a station dedicated to >>oldies or a station dedicated to blues. >> >>-- >>-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> >> >> > > > > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:27:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1RDWm017285 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:27:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:27:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060D301@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:27:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:27:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1RCsP016218 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:27:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1085699nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.13 with SMTP id j13mr277587nzj; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:27:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dgYXdlmE+1xpcoX7IEF+nj5fPSdcDG3hrULYtZyTHg8loOgowla/dNbSnFaVjy9ph7dbtni+grruQFhtwapC8slkcyazdIEqzMAumxyeizy0dYh7tyqkt5aDLK9SWUdo5nx3H0rW8Fu/xfC21dlvB+XI2wy59VauGxJYcb835AA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:27:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Replacement cat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3U1RDWm017285 I've been looking for a replacement cat. Part of me fears that any cat I get is going to be coyote fodder, but we all gotta go sometime, and realistically, Burl had about 10 good years in that neighborhood before she got eaten. And, the six cats next door are all fine and healthy, even though they sometimes spend the night outside. Now I have two possible replacement cats. One is a juvenile long hair with a sweet, accommodating nature. One is Very Picky and has special food and special water, but his current owner is moving, and doesn't think he'll be happy in a cold climate. I think he'll be unhappy without his current owner, but his owner believes that cats have short memories. I have to decide this weekend. Tell me what to do! I wish my ET weren't cavorting with the men this weekend. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:33:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1XeWm017808 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:33:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:33:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060D25D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:33:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:33:40 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1Xdih016883 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:33:39 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 99140468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:33:38 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050429183344.0277cc60@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:34:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Replacement cat In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just say no to cats. You have too many allergies. Get a dog. Betty At 06:27 PM 4/29/2005, you wrote: >I've been looking for a replacement cat. > >Part of me fears that any cat I get is going to be coyote fodder, but we all >gotta go sometime, and realistically, Burl had about 10 good years in that >neighborhood before she got eaten. And, the six cats next door are all fine >and healthy, even though they sometimes spend the night outside. > >Now I have two possible replacement cats. One is a juvenile long hair with a >sweet, accommodating nature. One is Very Picky and has special food and >special water, but his current owner is moving, and doesn't think he'll be >happy in a cold climate. I think he'll be unhappy without his current owner, >but his owner believes that cats have short memories. > >I have to decide this weekend. > >Tell me what to do! I wish my ET weren't cavorting with the men this >weekend. > >Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:41:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1fhWm018389 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:41:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:41:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F35F54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:41:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:41:43 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1fhrG017598 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:41:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430014139.RCUU1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:41:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4272E24F.8060405@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:41:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Replacement cat References: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Now I have two possible replacement cats. One is a juvenile long hair with a >sweet, accommodating nature. One is Very Picky and has special food and >special water, but his current owner is moving, and doesn't think he'll be >happy in a cold climate. I think he'll be unhappy without his current owner, >but his owner believes that cats have short memories. > > What is the current situation of the juvenile long-hair? It seems to me that the Very Picky Cat has owners who are not going to abaondon him and that therefore he is not really . As much as I sympathize with a cat (or any other living being) who might have to end up moving to a cold climate, my inclination on the basis of this info is to go with the juvenile. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:43:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1hlWm018534 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:43:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:43:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060D321@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:43:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:43:47 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1XlnA016893 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:33:47 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3U1XLSC014594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:33:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:33:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: that City Life query Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What is everyone doing this week end? Surviving the rain. Doing horsey stuff. Probably FINALLY getting to Ink & Blood (it's held over through May 1): http://www.churchbusiness.com/hotnews/51h3115119.html What else? Grading one set of papers. Working out at the Y. Maybe an AA meeting on Saturday. Early afernoon brunch on Sunday. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:46:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1jpWm018685 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:45:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:45:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060D27A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:45:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:45:51 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1ZpeM017039 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:35:51 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3U1ZNB1015676 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:35:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:35:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: one more thing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Waiting for Tiger to arrive next week. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 20:48:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U1mSWm018958 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:48:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:48:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060D177@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:48:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:48:28 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U1mRP4018383 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:48:28 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 99143855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:48:27 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050429184840.026412a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:48:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: one more thing In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:35 PM 4/29/2005, you wrote: >Waiting for Tiger to arrive next week. > >Bethany It's arriving right now in Berkeley. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 21:11:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U2BUWm021639 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:11:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:11:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060D1A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:11:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:11:29 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U2BTLR020664 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:11:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.194.251]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430021129.JSHP2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:11:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4272E94D.8090307@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:11:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: one more thing References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050429184840.026412a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050429184840.026412a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: >> Waiting for Tiger to arrive next week. >> >> Bethany > > It's arriving right now in Berkeley. I read somewhere that the giant weenie train was at the Jackson Zoo. I didn't have a chance to go confirm that report. I don't know about Tigers, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 21:24:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U2OEWm022928 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:24:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:24:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060D1EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:24:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 68316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:24:14 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U2OE6Q021876 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:24:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F35FEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:24:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200504300224.j3U2OE6Q021876@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:24:14 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:44:13 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Janet Hardy wrote: > >> While I'll use Starbucks when I'm on the road in >>places that don't have small independent coffee houses, I try to avoid them >>when I'm in major cities. >> >I'm not sure whether what my neighborhood has would be considered "small >independent coffee houses" -- as in I don't know that they create their >own coffee. But there are a fair number of small coffee houses in my >general neighborhood that seem to be for coffee snobs. Not being one, I >don't know much about the situation. Makes sense. I am a coffee snob, though. Starbucks is OK but not great -- it's not as good as what I can get at many other places here, but better than what I can get in many other cities. Chantico excepted, I go there mainly when I'm traveling -- like any other chain, its main benefit is its consistency; a Starbucks latte tastes like a Starbucks latte whether it's in Chinatown or Keokuk. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 21:42:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U2g3Wm024492 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:42:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:42:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060D3E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:42:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:42:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U2g1Oc023023 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:42:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1094588nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr284024nzb; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:42:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nZF9H4lDRbTaENTeAmspITUhj1r/zbak5omcbBYJZqi7yClrkkes7TzCCnk5bvZ2VyhOPxjkbxqe8MdcSVUVikFNQBVmGVLXLh2KIghhdMuyQNIW8hyW6EB7jet72paWgibrClfUs0JzDCt4F/3T/yG2sxXHfAHoWn9MZyi1o8o= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050429194222758ccd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:42:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Replacement cat In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050429183344.0277cc60@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050429183344.0277cc60@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3U2g3Wm024492 On 4/29/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > Just say no to cats. You have too many allergies. Get a dog. No dogs. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Apr 29 21:50:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U2nrWm025092 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:49:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:49:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060D402@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:49:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:49:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3U2nrcf023493 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:49:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1095474nzp for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr284552nzt; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:49:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PYplOKb1Ph7kqJw4FKTpcR5ZxOFRPRdPRWunI7yBjvvZFnapKx0heTbXO8IDK5TF8uJeqZvGzacupC3lcxO3gNJNNxUUG1sOYK4f8k5qc9v7nk8HAxMXIxZpwJexQAErT9vdXDXgQk8FUVepT+Hb+uoSkZnAHGsdRzByBO5q2t8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705042919492a62f387@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:49:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Replacement cat In-Reply-To: <4272E24F.8060405@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> <4272E24F.8060405@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3U2nrWm025092 On 4/29/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > What is the current situation of the juvenile long-hair? He's living in someone's bathroom--she rescued him from a kill shelter. So he'll be safe. But I think he'll be happiest with me. The other option is to be someone's outside cat, and I think he wants to be than that. Or, the humane society, where he will be adopted quickly--he's a very sweet cat. It seems to me > that the Very Picky Cat has owners who are not going to abaondon him and > that therefore he is not really . As much as I sympathize with > a cat (or any other living being) who might have to end up moving to a > cold climate, my inclination on the basis of this info is to go with the > juvenile. Mine, too, I think. It's not only the cold climate, though, it's the moving from a house with a large park for a backyard to an apt. It's flattering to be told you're the only person someone would trust with their beloved animal, though. This is not really a good time to adopt--I'm doing 60 hour weeks again, which isn't fiar to any animal. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 00:32:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U5WUWm011955 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:32:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:32:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060D8C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 1:32:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 79749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:32:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3U5MUgJ000355 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:22:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 30921 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Apr 2005 05:22:29 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:22:29 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? Message-ID: <20050430052229.GA30018@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70504281442792bf581@mail.gmail.com> <122846494.20050429091540@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <122846494.20050429091540@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 09:15:40AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/28/2005, 3:42 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> http://paulkienitz.net/republican.html > > They say I'm 53 percent republican, whtever the hell that means. Here > is their "analysis". > > Congratulations, you're a swing voter. When they say "Nascar Dad", > they mean you. Every Republican ad on the TV set was made just for > your viewing pleasure. Don't you feel special? *scary music* ... little do they know you don't give a flying fuck! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 00:34:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U5Y8Wm012071 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:34:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:34:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060D8C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 1:34:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 79790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:34:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3U5O7bi000437 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:24:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 32155 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Apr 2005 05:24:07 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:24:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? Message-ID: <20050430052407.GB30018@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181241.026aeb50@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429023938.GC28351@words-l.org> <1331891377.20050429092420@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1331891377.20050429092420@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 09:24:20AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/28/2005, 8:39 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 06:15:03PM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: > >> Why bother to confirm the obvious? I don't this stuff. How silly to > >> find out what kind dog or whatever you are, too. Secondly, who cares? > > DMH> I think these quizzes are, like, for NPR listeners or something > > That particular one certainly was. And it was designed to be nothing > but "cute" and "clever" rather than anything meaningful. Shyeuh ... I know THAT ... but there is a special, horrible level of cute that's specifically for NPR listeners From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 00:37:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U5bPWm012493 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:37:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:37:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060D70D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 1:37:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 79888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:37:24 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3U5ROVh000617 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:27:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 33735 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Apr 2005 05:27:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:27:24 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? Message-ID: <20050430052724.GC30018@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 11:43:30AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > All of the questions on all of these stupid tests are stupid and so are > the answers. That's half the fun. "Half" is kind of generous don't you think ... on the other hand, it's just a statistic, which means shit if you are the statistic. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 00:44:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U5iXWm013838 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:44:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:44:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060D8CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 1:44:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 80070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:44:33 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3U5YXFI000978 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:34:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 40930 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Apr 2005 05:34:33 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:34:32 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... Message-ID: <20050430053431.GD30018@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705042811286744cc94@mail.gmail.com> <07e301c54c26$dd609610$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <44dce1c1050429064635d49796@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 03:25:50PM -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Terry, Did that actually mean something? > Marie > > On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > > > Welcome! > > > > > > On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > > I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. > > > > > > 'Alan A "devote" spouse never tells... But how difficult is it to understand? He was into basketball, but now he likes origami. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 00:45:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U5jJWm013933 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:45:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:45:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060D8CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 1:45:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 80071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:45:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3U5ZEDY001054 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:35:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 43197 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Apr 2005 05:35:14 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:35:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... Message-ID: <20050430053514.GE30018@words-l.org> References: <200504291829.j3TITber020445@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504291829.j3TITber020445@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 02:29:37PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:25:50 -0300, Marieber Meeber > wrote: > > >Terry, Did that actually mean something? > > Marie > > > > On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: > >> > >> Welcome! > >> > >> > >> On 4/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > >> > I am a reformed baller... 'Now a devote folder. > >> > > >> > 'Alan > > This seems perfectly clear to me. Alan has adopted Terry's > preferred method of packing. True, Terry? Please ... in privet mail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 00:49:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U5nGWm014289 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:49:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:49:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060D8D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 1:49:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 80135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:49:16 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3U5dEp4001244 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:39:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 49295 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Apr 2005 05:39:14 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:39:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life Message-ID: <20050430053914.GF30018@words-l.org> References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4272149F.70601@maynor.net> <748092857.20050429092908@gailndan.com> <4272BC87.1000003@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4272BC87.1000003@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 06:00:23PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Statistics don't mean a shit if you're one of the statistics. That > >goes for both murder victim and lottery winner. > > > So what does that have to do with the price of broccoli in Trinidad?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's a statistic. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 01:20:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3U6KXWm017816 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:20:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:20:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060D956@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 2:20:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 81955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:20:32 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j3U6KVQp004093 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:20:32 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005043008185509838 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:18:55 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.33] ([158.39.120.33]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:20:30 +0200 Message-ID: <427323AE.1010303@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:20:30 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429175146.GA32749@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050429175146.GA32749@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2005 06:20:30.0527 (UTC) FILETIME=[B558B4F0:01C54D4C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph skrev 29.04.2005 19:51: >On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 09:12:17AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >= And if bonniev were here she'd give statistics for unreal Maine. . >= >= What is everyone doing this week end? >= >= Betty >= > >Queen's day. Going to be up partying late tonight and then tomorrow >people might come 'round. > > > I was home from Rana at 22:45 last night, today will be a quiet day, maybe some backgammon at home, and tomorrow we will sneak through the demonstrating masses and go and take a walk in an open air museum. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 05:26:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UAQBWm018697 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 05:26:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 05:26:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DA62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 6:16:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:16:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UAGA25019189 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:16:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1338920wra for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.81.2 with SMTP id e2mr2152295wrb; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:16:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AOEJ0JXCZpXidSSNkHlmRuFEKrNGJOoG6irJVjeiKqetaY8wU41tVtvNThspeKwaRqkg7ykHGuKwJokuoE1nwJQ5bGFbEQBnKNrLcbQFyypFF/hsugHMYqWKqhmRRwzINJDX6eCEDgkXD+Cjf4AHCAdlxJB0ShGWnAEggUuoSvw= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:16:09 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Replacement cat In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UAQBWm018697 > Now I have two possible replacement cats. One is a juvenile long hair with > a > sweet, accommodating nature. One is Very Picky and has special food and > special water, but his current owner is moving, and doesn't think he'll be > happy in a cold climate. I think he'll be unhappy without his current > owner, > but his owner believes that cats have short memories. > Karen > Take them both. They will be company for each other. I too think cat's have short memories. And you can break the cat of the special food and water thing. It'll eat when it gets hungry. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 06:04:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UB4IWm026126 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:04:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:04:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F367F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 7:04:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 86616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:04:17 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UB4Ha2014893 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:04:17 -0400 Received: from [151.199.60.85] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 95459122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:04:19 -0400 Message-ID: <4273669D.7020004@bc.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:06:05 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Replacement cat References: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: > I've been looking for a replacement cat. > > Part of me fears that any cat I get is going to be coyote fodder, but we all > gotta go sometime, and realistically, Burl had about 10 good years in that > neighborhood before she got eaten. And, the six cats next door are all fine > and healthy, even though they sometimes spend the night outside. > > Now I have two possible replacement cats. One is a juvenile long hair with a > sweet, accommodating nature. One is Very Picky and has special food and > special water, but his current owner is moving, and doesn't think he'll be > happy in a cold climate. I think he'll be unhappy without his current owner, > but his owner believes that cats have short memories. > > I have to decide this weekend. What Bonnie said. Take them both and keep them both inside. They will be company for each other and won't mind your being gone for 60 or more hours a week. They will be all that much more affectionate when you are at home. Rita L. (owned by four cats who are on their own for that many hours every week too.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 06:10:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UB9iWm027104 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:09:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:10:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060D969@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 6:39:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 86146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:39:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UAdh9P021450 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:39:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1197295wri for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.115.2 with SMTP id n2mr2162391wrc; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:39:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=tp6Kl45zhlqTTN87U7cDsp5j+gmVlx3m1NK6Aq8z12QhVpDjTO8DNJ3dbbEqzwl2C7G54pUACwn4f62iCBygHDqlGDHgyGp9edSLgkG/4Ubf4ixhWuJxsgaxBsx7kVQ/xd+1qc5UdX+9GTFhzEB/T4QsQIPnlWYHv481MVEJOKM= Message-ID: <83db447a05043003398eb4fd4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:39:42 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: From Trondheim Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UB9iWm027104 Good trip so far. The flight was uneventful (as all good flights should be), meeting Steph was a nice interlude, Bergen was sunny and enjoyable. The Coastal Voyage has upgraded its embarkation facilities; now, they have a real departure terminal with bnaggage-handling facilities. They delivered our large bags while we were exploring the ship; they also left a basket of fruit and a bottle of chilled champagne. Nice way to start the voyage. The side trip into the Geiranger Fjord unfortunately was under heavily overcast skies---payback, I guess, for the sunny Bergen days. Nonetheless, the fjord is beautiful and although some of the waterfalls were still mostly snow-packed, enough were fully operating as to be impressive. Also, somewhat unfortunately, I came down with sinus trouble, so I wasn't in the best condition to enjoy the Geiranger trip. As we left the fjord, the sun came out and the remained of the trip north from Ålesund was under mostly sunny skies. As the sun set, the Norwegian Alps near Molde were highlighted. After dinner, I became acquainted with akavit---a well-aged variety that was very nice. Oh yes, there still was a faint rosy glow on the western horizon at midnight. We're about to leave Trondheim (1230). I felt somewhat better this morning, so after breakfast we walked through the center of Trondheim to the cathedral, stopping on the way back for cappucino and to buy snacks for cocktail hour. Today is the longest non-stop stretch of the voyage; we are due in at Rorvik about 2130. It's a beautiful day to spend on the top deck, looking at the scenery of the Trondheim fjord and the coast on the way north. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 07:16:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UCGgWm004003 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:16:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:16:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F36848@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 8:06:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:06:41 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UBufEu019974 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:56:41 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3UBuEsa029773 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:56:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:56:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: that Tiger Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Waiting for Tiger to arrive next week. >> >> It's arriving right now in Berkeley. And it arrived here - meaning Knoxville - at 6 p.m. yesterday. But I have to wait on admin process to get my freebie through UT - I get it because of the date on which I acquired my new G4 laptop through the Faculty Refresh Program. I should have it by mid-week. Grrrrrr! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 08:14:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UDE5Wm011209 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:14:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:14:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DB42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 9:14:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 89206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:14:04 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UDE4dR025602 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:14:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F36942@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 9:14:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200504301314.j3UDE4dR025602@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:14:04 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:52:14 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 4/29/05, Terry Wild wrote: >> >> playing in the garden between raindrops, planting some seeds, checking >> on henny penny who's sitting on some eggs, ferociously attacking and >> hopefully killing plantain which has vigorously taken over our >> lawn.and zestfully removing suffocating clutter. >> > >Plantain? You have bananas growing in your lawn? > >Karen, stunned A member, if memory serves, of the dock family? Broad-leaved and - thin-leaved? - plantain - the leaves are great for binding wounds & some other herbal remedy uses I've forgotten, and the seeds make great tea-party pretend food, but other than that they are a tremendous nuisance. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 08:22:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UDM3Wm012052 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:22:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:22:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DB4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 9:22:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 89392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:22:03 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UDM3Xg026493 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:22:03 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F36951@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 9:22:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200504301322.j3UDM3Xg026493@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:22:02 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:14:52 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Dan Lester wrote: >> Boise's per capita income is >>above the national average, while Jackson's is far below. Same for >>cost of living. >> >I'm not surprised about income but am about cost of living. I've played >with some of the cost-of-living charts online before, comparing Jackson >with various cities I could think of that were of comparable size. I >can't think now what those cities were, though I remember that >Providence was one. Jackson's cost-of-living is higher than Providence's. > Is there an index (one wonders why not if not) for the COL-to-income ratio for various locales? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 08:28:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UDSRWm013071 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:28:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:28:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DB57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 9:28:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 89536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:28:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UDSQVO027419 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:28:26 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F36924@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 9:28:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200504301328.j3UDSQVO027419@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:28:26 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Replacement cat To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:27:12 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I've been looking for a replacement cat. > >Part of me fears that any cat I get is going to be coyote fodder, but we all >gotta go sometime, and realistically, Burl had about 10 good years in that >neighborhood before she got eaten. And, the six cats next door are all fine >and healthy, even though they sometimes spend the night outside. > >Now I have two possible replacement cats. One is a juvenile long hair with a >sweet, accommodating nature. One is Very Picky and has special food and >special water, but his current owner is moving, and doesn't think he'll be >happy in a cold climate. I think he'll be unhappy without his current owner, >but his owner believes that cats have short memories. > >I have to decide this weekend. > >Tell me what to do! I wish my ET weren't cavorting with the men this >weekend. > >Karen I think that the younger cat sounds like a better companion, but be sure to brush him - her? - often. clo From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 08:35:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UDZ8Wm013809 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:35:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:35:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F3691D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 9:25:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 89455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:25:07 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UDP7xo026947 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:25:07 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F36958@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 9:25:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200504301325.j3UDP7xo026947@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:25:07 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: 'Minute announcement... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:33:10 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Terry Wild wrote: > >>TP >> >> >>>Terry, Did that actually mean something? >>>Marie >>> >>> >Balling vs folding tp?? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Ahh. I misremembered the discussion. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 10:13:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UFD8Wm025813 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:13:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:13:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DC22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:03:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 92264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:03:07 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UF37kb003318 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:03:07 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 99259396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:03:06 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050430080311.0276fc30@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:03:34 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Replacement cat In-Reply-To: <200504301328.j3UDSQVO027419@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504301328.j3UDSQVO027419@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I think that the younger cat sounds like a better companion, but >be sure to brush him - her? - often. >clo And spin and knit! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 10:21:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UFLkWm026475 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:21:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:21:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060DB35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:21:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 92692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:21:46 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UFLjYt004763 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:21:46 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3UFLiZ4006860 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:21:44 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j3UFLixJ006858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:21:44 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:21:44 +0200 To: words-l Subject: queen's day 2005 Message-ID: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU for some wholly unedited queen's day pictures from today - http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 10:43:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UFhHWm028329 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:43:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:43:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DC5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:43:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 93311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:43:17 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UFhHXj007320 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:43:17 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 99267485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:43:16 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050430084249.02636c30@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:43:44 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 In-Reply-To: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:21 AM 4/30/2005, you wrote: >for some wholly unedited queen's day pictures from today - > >http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/ What fun! You have a great view and I love how happy you are with the cats! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 11:39:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UGdZWm002777 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:39:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:39:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060DD7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:39:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 95084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:39:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UGdYae012972 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:39:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1190242nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr344164nzb; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:39:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dqbeyuUTvJm1tuaqt/px1FvT/jApUETnq8ij6D2k33WLrKs33anail9srPz0SFI+HqRG199oG1uCJ0iYffQGf1quvLPkQ+r5uKW8xrhZVcFo3L1zc4zz5t+LdT9XKZxBz2gAOj8hGUujPws5V3GkLGz7buBS7FFI0w2KvWSrZ0Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705043009393e8ca6d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:39:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Replacement cat In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UGdZWm002777 On 4/30/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Take them both. They will be company for each other. I too think cat's > have > short memories. And you can break the cat of the special food and water > thing. It'll eat when it gets hungry. > I'm very tempted, but I'm not going to be home much in the next week to keep tabs on them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 11:41:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UGf3Wm002888 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:41:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:41:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060DBC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:41:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 95112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:41:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UGf2NC013138 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:41:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1190451nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr344145nzb; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:41:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dWXHikQRZ1IPnMTpdQbD2N2G1AMY/SuTQIPk9np0R27i6QwXIckPrYmML/F7bOULZgszlpCdY+xk+vW4e5D8Bm/EgkqTsqjzZS9+Xb10nRdqSAxS2wqyVR60Wj1xsB5c08f0UPLPQq/rQkobLUds679BdbXDAjwv1TUL0mpbPms= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504300941461b5001@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:41:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Replacement cat In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050430080311.0276fc30@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504301328.j3UDSQVO027419@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050430080311.0276fc30@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UGf3Wm002888 On 4/30/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > > > >I think that the younger cat sounds like a better companion, but > >be sure to brush him - her? - often. > >clo > > And spin and knit! Cat hair isn't the right kind of fiber--doesn't have the right kind of hooks on it to spin well. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 11:41:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UGfIWm002945 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:41:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:41:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060DD7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:41:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 95126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:41:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UGfIuF013215 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:41:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1190483nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr344194nzb; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:41:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FjuOafxkW6KGawDU/oHgCtGrmLGtA/GSA1AHPneKvA3939Ls9FEs1tbSfIPJEIYFtMB0acW/EUnlKFvBynaNEuNmAGNneNUDwR3zfJNq0P94VUTlhhovTqYsEE9HvkVKifX0WNTT3ke7RMkPArDLqugeR3Ij/LgbUK/2qM/BFRk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050430094145024a07@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:41:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Replacement cat In-Reply-To: <200504301328.j3UDSQVO027419@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504301328.j3UDSQVO027419@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UGfIWm002945 On 4/30/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:27:12 -0500, A Friend of Andy > wrote: > > >I've been looking for a replacement cat. > > > >Part of me fears that any cat I get is going to be coyote fodder, but we > all > >gotta go sometime, and realistically, Burl had about 10 good years in > that > >neighborhood before she got eaten. And, the six cats next door are all > fine > >and healthy, even though they sometimes spend the night outside. > > > >Now I have two possible replacement cats. One is a juvenile long hair > with a > >sweet, accommodating nature. One is Very Picky and has special food and > >special water, but his current owner is moving, and doesn't think he'll > be > >happy in a cold climate. I think he'll be unhappy without his current > owner, > >but his owner believes that cats have short memories. > > > >I have to decide this weekend. > > > >Tell me what to do! I wish my ET weren't cavorting with the men this > >weekend. > > > >Karen > > I think that the younger cat sounds like a better companion, but > be sure to brush him - her? - often. Daily. But this is shedding season. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 12:06:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UH5xWm005613 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:06:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:06:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DD02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:05:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 95880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:05:58 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UH5vFx015421 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:05:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13E39937D for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:05:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18372-08 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:05:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8239932E for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:05:55 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4273BAE8.9060703@akad.ee> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:05:44 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.336 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >for some wholly unedited queen's day pictures from today - > what a good thing a digicamera is! If I had one I could also report this minute about the parade of academic organizations, the speeches of the mayor and rector of the university, and how the head of Karl Ernst von Baer was washed with sparkling wine, about the flags of the organizations above their members' heads, and, well, for a good reporting about students' songs even digiphotos may not be enough --anyway, this was what I watched and heard for the last hour and a half, as the introduction to Walpurg night. (Introduction for those who go on celebrating, for me it was enough for today.) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 12:43:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UHhSWm009239 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:43:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:43:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060DC2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 96750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:28 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UHhSDo018538 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F36C83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200504301743.j3UHhSDo018538@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:28 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I was home from Rana at 22:45 last night, today will be a quiet day, >maybe some backgammon at home, and tomorrow we will sneak through the >demonstrating masses and go and take a walk in an open air museum. > >Espen We're luxuriating in the unseasonable weather (upper 70s/low 80s rather than low 100s), looking at the [tm] Arizona Blue Skies and tending the newer plants and the now-4 ft.-high sunflowers. Tomorrow we've been invited to lunch at the Blue Adobe by a friend celebrating Orthodox Easter. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 12:43:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UHheWm009261 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:43:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:43:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DD3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 96771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:35 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UHhZKv018563 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:35 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060DC31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200504301743.j3UHhZKv018563@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:35 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Replacement cat To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:41:02 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 4/30/05, Betty F Clark wrote: >> >> > >> >I think that the younger cat sounds like a better companion, but >> >be sure to brush him - her? - often. >> >clo >> >> And spin and knit! > > >Cat hair isn't the right kind of fiber--doesn't have the right kind of hooks >on it to spin well. > >Karen It wouldn't be ideal, or really strong unless mixed with other fiber, but I was testing our cat's hair this morning, and I think it could be done. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 12:46:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UHkVWm009510 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:46:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:46:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DD47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:46:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 96893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:46:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UHkU2G019064 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:46:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1199319nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.32.10 with SMTP id f10mr350104nzf; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:46:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AW0r8orNmn8bQNp35ZIYjxx62jzUIukjNYPdX2OB9T+8sDREltNNSQKpfvLjILtXRO5gii2So8hnlF+x1QejdlNMygZjcqEuKHtexpZSDjF3G9+KA+ERqElrTRYXljOG1E3gCJScNtVKzdDrUfnu1eAnwFjZkkuhN6tGfIfvQg0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504301046771d9290@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:46:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Replacement cat In-Reply-To: <200504301743.j3UHhZKv018563@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504301743.j3UHhZKv018563@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UHkVWm009510 On 4/30/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:41:02 -0500, A Friend of Andy > wrote: > > >On 4/30/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >I think that the younger cat sounds like a better companion, but > >> >be sure to brush him - her? - often. > >> >clo > >> > >> And spin and knit! > > > > > >Cat hair isn't the right kind of fiber--doesn't have the right kind of > hooks > >on it to spin well. > > > >Karen > > It wouldn't be ideal, or really strong unless mixed with other fiber, > but I was testing our cat's hair this morning, and I think it could > be done. Yes, mixing with other fiber would be good. The blue socks that I made for Paul have a lot of Burl hair in them (unintentionally), and a bunch of my hair. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 12:58:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UHwRWm011116 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:58:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:58:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060DDFE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:48:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 96954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:48:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UHmQFm019398 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:48:26 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F36CAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:48:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200504301748.j3UHmQFm019398@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:48:26 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: From Trondheim To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:39:42 +0200, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > We're about to leave Trondheim (1230). I felt somewhat better this morning, >so after breakfast we walked through the center of Trondheim to the >cathedral, stopping on the way back for cappucino and to buy snacks for >cocktail hour. Glad you're feeling better. I had a sinus infection just before and in- transit to Honolulu back in January, but the natural cures kicked in swiftly. How are the on-board snacks for cocktail hour? What type of snacks did you buy? Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 13:12:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UICiWm012898 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:12:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:12:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060DC6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:02:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 97395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:02:43 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UI2h3Z020960 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:02:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F36CE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:02:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200504301802.j3UI2h3Z020960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:02:43 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:39:14 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 06:00:23PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >Statistics don't mean a shit if you're one of the statistics. That >> >goes for both murder victim and lottery winner. >> >> >> So what does that have to do with the price of broccoli in Trinidad?? > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >That's a statistic. Broccoli there would be more dear than plaintain. Da's a surety, meh deah. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 13:12:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UICiWm012899 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:12:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:12:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060DCA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:11:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 97704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:11:47 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UIBlrm022302 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:11:47 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id E29E2BE8C8; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DE0C284A for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: From the Marin Independant Journal: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ALL FAITH RETREAT Unity in Marin presents an all faith silent retreat Thursday from 9:30 a.m. to 7 p.m. for people to spend the day in silence, read, create art, have a massage or pray. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 13:58:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UIwdWm017314 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:58:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:58:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060DD35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:58:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:58:39 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UIwcOK026906 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:58:39 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so1261852rne for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.30 with SMTP id u30mr4763619rna; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:58:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HqsQ72+axQWtbGvJpYg2AUukxuh74i8J7eF3mgCfHs1jv5wQGQllQzzshxazFV5QEvQzsZT/qtpzX94xWL7uH7mMmMV0l6/7g+5sDiCOj5H/BE3g2/HdLPrLB3CV+/myHgnoiUO4ZRhlh/a7gyrKye1sMDdK+e2AVLgTeXQ7qNc= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:58:37 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: talk radio? In-Reply-To: <4272BB65.2050402@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504281621.j3SGLLCE019800@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050428202122.GA26111@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42719DD6.7070407@maynor.net> <4210715192.20050429092228@gailndan.com> <4272BB65.2050402@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UIwdWm017314 > > >I'd say it was because of the use of the past tense. "did she know > >him" would imply he was no longer around, as opposed to "does she know > >him". At least to me, and apparently others. Dan > > I understand that now -- from the earlier replies. But I thought of > "Did she know her father very well" as referring to her childhood. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > And that's what I meant. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 14:19:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UJJ6Wm020179 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:19:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:19:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060DF12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:17:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:17:14 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UJHDfl029335 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:17:13 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 43CE8BE8C9; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30794C284A for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:17:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From the Marin Independant Journal: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU that should be "independent," right? Right. Enn From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 14:19:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UJJ6Wm020180 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:19:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:19:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060DD56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:16:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:16:17 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UJGGJA029243 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:16:17 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so1267330rne for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.63 with SMTP id u63mr4895858rna; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:16:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=H5Jt29YY4sDz/MycUqD8xHLSOejdIybNTCn0hrUXTmgyFda9sKS6Jra93ywPANoy/SoHZWdjn5h9DdAMi0Qn5OxMVlQdrE+BJChI66i0ZqvqD9SIcvdOZqGfCWnhDIioZ6k0PDvMyUAcFd/efvdD52aq+Iu2YP+CQR0OKMDHHbc= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:16:16 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <427323AE.1010303@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429175146.GA32749@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427323AE.1010303@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UJJ6Wm020180 > > I was home from Rana at 22:45 last night, today will be a quiet day, > maybe some backgammon at home, and tomorrow we will sneak through the > demonstrating masses and go and take a walk in an open air museum. > Espen We'll be in Bodo tomorrow. Will they be demonstrating? What about? -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 14:19:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UJJ6Wm020176 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:19:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:19:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DE53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:09:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:09:06 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UJ96mI028330 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:09:06 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so1265319rne for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.161.10 with SMTP id j10mr4809711rne; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:09:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=O/SrT06nhNMl15zL2R1Y5TR0YleXntfpDzTiMBvCc9RFc4ISYUb6qeDqFfMEtAKm+UtVIlOGiDwU166VjeN0vVOJoJz9lP7MbXvgQTsvoiGhQko3xDrAyk5D37zqzVTZ+TLZobi4YjRuAG0P02isbAf+cp/kr11RKVJV0LW9eKo= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:09:03 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <1749789705.20050429095620@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UJJ6Wm020176 > > And if bonniev were here she'd give statistics for unreal Maine. . Not true. They don't seem to give statistics for an entity so small as unreal Maine. Perhaps Portland or Bangor have statistics. What is everyone doing this week end? > Betty I guess we all know what I'm doing. This excessive light is harder to get used to than I thought it would be. Many more older people on this voyage than the one before. I'm rethinking moving to Birch Bay Village. There is something depressing about being around only old people. -- > --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 15:21:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UKKoWm027740 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:20:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:21:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060DFB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:16:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:16:30 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UKGUk6002920 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:16:30 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 6F1B4BE8C3; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61570C284A for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:16:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From the Marin Independant Journal: In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70504301310c1bf185@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Unity in Marin presents an all faith silent retreat Thursday from 9:30 > > a.m. to 7 p.m. for people to spend the day in silence, read, create art, > > have a massage or pray. > > I'd sign up. Massage first, pray later? or a little of everything? Or maybe the hot tub baptism and reading group. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 15:21:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UKKoWm027739 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:20:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:21:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060DFA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:10:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:10:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UKAnfF002198 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:10:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1219647nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.12 with SMTP id h12mr359952nzh; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:10:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NWztkUHCDPLe2TXotM3cGh3yVQqATOh4ABfU6ONJoFSUVwisAY6iN5TSpDzoLGhabVdU5b4Gn8JaeaM/AyXL+XtaMbIOfxSG0w9CdVcLddW3+j8sGEX6HA+HtpUhNpw/Rw0Tq3QKddXIHeVsqP8Yfj+kehmlIOKVtgr4gbGlT9k= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70504301310c1bf185@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:10:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From the Marin Independant Journal: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UKKoWm027739 On 4/30/05, Ann Borkin wrote: > > ALL FAITH RETREAT > > Unity in Marin presents an all faith silent retreat Thursday from 9:30 > a.m. to 7 p.m. for people to spend the day in silence, read, create art, > have a massage or pray. > I'd sign up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 15:39:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UKdaWm030876 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:39:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:39:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DF2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:39:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:39:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UKdZGY004810 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:39:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1223536nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr361801nzb; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:39:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dTBnC0Zn0Z2AuOIIe1/GR1VvW5btdlKrJjGWPdQLc/nlEFTpeRKy9uIQKQgDZrqN50rsjGBNEvZi1AtH0BrlC2O+CGigBoI1To7Kh0Fh1olLIJuP2ZjjoVFTHLgz8uRT4YEyFOl/0xugXSuLmBA+yhC2d4/x6RzaL14AeVn3EIc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050430133966637fae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:39:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Cat question resolved, I think. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UKdaWm030876 I think I've decided to take the long-haired cat. I'm going to tell my friend that 3 days is not long enough to make a decision about The Finicky Cat. I want to give the LHC a few days of being at home, and then bring TFC in on a test run for a couple of days when I can be here. I don't want to come home to find the house ripped up. I think that's a reasonable way to bring two male cats who don't know each other together. If TFC's current owner can't fit with this timeline, I'm going to have to say no. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 15:50:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UKoTWm000055 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:50:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:50:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060DF31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:40:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:40:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UKeTEk004887 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:40:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1223626nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.9 with SMTP id h9mr361682nzb; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:40:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JhQdfEbgIiBDiyLv+hixpMON2GTRVzn3E0igpog8XyDVbN05yd1AYMEUJ1c0et7H/uqufcv70JzYl4FMDgRxm7fV108FnKPWvgWNzL1bz/t4r2wLfvImQXBeY6rYlpAgLgmH2Ax3Hds1DyxgzD0wTR2hisTktjxF3DeK3ZvLPyg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050430134053ec6d23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:40:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From the Marin Independant Journal: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70504301310c1bf185@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UKoTWm000055 On 4/30/05, Ann Borkin wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > Unity in Marin presents an all faith silent retreat Thursday from 9:30 > > > a.m. to 7 p.m. for people to spend the day in silence, read, create > art, > > > have a massage or pray. > > > > I'd sign up. > > Massage first, pray later? or a little of everything? Or maybe the hot > tub baptism and reading group. Hot tub baptisms? Ew. Forget it. I take it back. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 16:58:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3ULwXWm008566 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:58:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:58:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060E033@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:58:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 105811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:58:32 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3ULwWg7012031 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:58:32 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F37064@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:58:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200504302158.j3ULwWg7012031@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:58:32 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:09:03 +0200, bonniemaev wrote: >> >> And if bonniev were here she'd give statistics for unreal Maine. . > > Not true. They don't seem to give statistics for an entity so small as >unreal Maine. Perhaps Portland or Bangor have statistics. > >What is everyone doing this week end? >> Betty > > I guess we all know what I'm doing. This excessive light is harder to get >used to than I thought it would be. Many more older people on this voyage >than the one before. I'm rethinking moving to Birch Bay Village. There is >something depressing about being around only old people. > >-- >> --bonniev Tell more about excessive light. clo in cloudy Syr From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 17:28:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UMSHWm012722 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:28:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:28:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060E05E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:18:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 106688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:18:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UMIHMP014507 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:18:17 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F37105@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:18:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200504302218.j3UMIHMP014507@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:18:17 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: City Life To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Tell more about excessive light. >clo in cloudy Syr Soon come, surely. I'll shoot some over. I love living again in a place where wearing shades is always acceptable -- even indoors (I've always loved dark glasses). The days of gloom are more a rare novelty, but we take comfort in the few that we get -- nice when we have them, but wouldn't want it to stay that way. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 18:32:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UNWSWm021601 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:32:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:32:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F37212@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:32:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:32:28 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UNWSni021762 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:32:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.241]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430233227.SCIW2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:32:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:32:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >for some wholly unedited queen's day pictures from today - > >http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/ > > I especially love this one: http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/img_0588.html Why is one cat looking down at the crowds with great interest, while the other one is looking up to the heavens seemingly begging for reprieve from the madness? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 18:34:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UNYUWm021775 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:34:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:34:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E00B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:24:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 108957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:24:30 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UNOTDb021263 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:24:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.241]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430232429.RZNS2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:24:29 -0400 Message-ID: <427413AA.9070309@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:24:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Funny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't know why I find this so funny, but I do: Somebody accidentally sold the church computer at the rummage sale. (It's not quite as serious as it sounds. The computer supposedly had problems of some kind and hadn't been used in about a year. We are a small, low-budget church. It's not as if there's an office open all the time with people in it doing stuff. Nobody is in the building most of the time. Things like the website-maintaining are done by people at home on their own computers.) Anyway, I thought it was funny. So did the church president. The person who had sold it was feeling bad, though, and another person said that there might have been stuff on the disk that we wouldn't want strangers to see. Although I do understand her point, I somehow doubt that there's anything of consequence on it and that the buyer would not be interested in reading whatever it was anyway. The sale was a success. We made close to $900, which was good given the ugliness of today -- a cold, wet, dismal day. The Good Will truck showed up on schedule to haul off everything we didn't sell. So it is now finish-ed. I was back and forth a good bit today since we had more workers today than we had yesterday. (And it's convenient that I live very close to the church -- 5-10 minutes away.) When I went back the last time, I took my camera. Wish I'd thought to take it sooner. The pictures I took are here, though I can't imagine that any of you would find them interesting: http://www.maynor.net/Rummage/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 18:34:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UNYUWm021776 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:34:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:34:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060E1D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:34:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:34:08 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UNY8Ji021861 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:34:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.241]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430233408.SCUK2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:34:08 -0400 Message-ID: <427415EC.8040807@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:34:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From the Marin Independant Journal: References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: >ALL FAITH RETREAT > >Unity in Marin presents an all faith silent retreat Thursday from 9:30 >a.m. to 7 p.m. for people to spend the day in silence, read, create art, >have a massage or pray. > > I started to ask why they needed to do that communally, but then I got to the massage part. That requires community. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 18:46:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UNjsWm023098 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:45:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:46:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E01D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:35:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:35:53 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UNZrPk022012 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:35:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.241]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430233553.SDGA2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:35:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42741655.9030400@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:35:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat question resolved, I think. References: <8ddfc8a7050430133966637fae@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050430133966637fae@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I think I've decided to take the long-haired cat. I'm going to tell my >friend that 3 days is not long enough to make a decision about The Finicky >Cat. > >I want to give the LHC a few days of being at home, and then bring TFC in on >a test run for a couple of days when I can be here. I don't want to come >home to find the house ripped up. I think that's a reasonable way to bring >two male cats who don't know each other together. If TFC's current owner >can't fit with this timeline, I'm going to have to say no. > > This strikes me as a Good Plan. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 18:46:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UNjsWm023099 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:45:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:46:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060E12C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:45:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:45:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UNjXR9022444 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:45:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1245164nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.6 with SMTP id g6mr372512nzg; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:45:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iV3VMZFqVP3y3qNWRnslw6qBdRTKN2pWUKzhJmbN9fvVHdZFRRGylOJXsGE9pjKpol9ghU7I99+LsT+EC93w6QQOBvyQOcWRoIJwh5MT/Y7tNWU1/jH+/6SENJK0CHjkBYVPQHsNbcucywbDjUKUrS1UwUjJtyp718cRB2M1dAI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705043016451e343d8a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:45:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From the Marin Independant Journal: In-Reply-To: <427415EC.8040807@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427415EC.8040807@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UNjsWm023099 Because it's all more fun in community. On 4/30/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Ann Borkin wrote: > > >ALL FAITH RETREAT > > > >Unity in Marin presents an all faith silent retreat Thursday from 9:30 > >a.m. to 7 p.m. for people to spend the day in silence, read, create art, > >have a massage or pray. > > > > > I started to ask why they needed to do that communally, but then I got > to the massage part. That requires community. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 18:55:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UNsvWm023909 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:54:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:55:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060E13C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UNsuwb022939 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.174.241]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050430235456.DYKR2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:54:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42741ACC.9030400@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:54:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From the Marin Independant Journal: References: <427415EC.8040807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705043016451e343d8a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705043016451e343d8a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Because it's all more fun in community. > > I'm a great believer in and lover of community and agree that most things are more fun in community. But there's something about the idea of doing all those non-communal things strikes me as kind of weird. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 18:59:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j3UNxLWm024599 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:59:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:59:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E042@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:59:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:59:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3UNxKc0023266 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:59:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1246686nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr373367nzb; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:59:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WxjSv7cT5AOFCYGnlAuPh3JcG6YvDQuKa28seTmAmDM5RapaFYSensm6dMHiSLAVD2qCBeZ6vdOIFCCyoyuxH6kCVtGghrfeZ0FDZFtPnDuCuy+6NUTLll96OBzTpRATwlZfpjkM3FI0SDjHHFWqlhv9qd9mjkpQT0/bpWJW8ds= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705043016597e9c5138@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:59:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From the Marin Independant Journal: In-Reply-To: <42741ACC.9030400@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427415EC.8040807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705043016451e343d8a@mail.gmail.com> <42741ACC.9030400@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j3UNxLWm024599 On 4/30/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >Because it's all more fun in community. > > > > > I'm a great believer in and lover of community and agree that most > things are more fun in community. But there's something about the idea > of doing all those non-communal things strikes me as kind > of weird. We have very different ideas about the virtues of community. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 22:45:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j413j9Wm020203 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:45:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:45:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060E47C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:25:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:25:09 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j413P8HU002833 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:25:09 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1284304wri for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.114.2 with SMTP id m2mr36240wrc; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:25:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rBNg+LUAlpz4+kztdpVFwZdfu/pg9dmS9hBj4edCZuBWs32ZlF5KE2E0VToGT3rWuGT4JdO0o3u+26dlhV4cjOpgT/Gr88XrOFzuVxHrgBEKtHCfj/b3gS1yjUQgOvexArE5Cx244PXDHeh5EkNl1DCbT4bxFVxb1SNfMhrB39E= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:25:02 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Alyce's plants Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j413j9Wm020203 So here they are...what's left of the transplants from Alyce's garden. There are two mystery plants in there -- identification needed. http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c520725.html Happy belated birthday, Alyce. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 22:45:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j413j9Wm020205 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:45:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:45:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060E48B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:29:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:29:49 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j413TnC5003178 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:29:49 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1284669wri for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.122.17 with SMTP id u17mr223763wrc; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:29:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mU4hIg/DJLOsgtV7uqN4Hl9e2X9/2slhG7vWIQt8Wm/lItiBdlopbVCeOdZoJKnHz820kP3WpCY6jLENMIiYq4mvQd+11AgwJFAb1snlvkfle+616JsZaSTakKjsc8GVz5B2nqawvjMVE03e7ciFJRpz1xWkTYzkOsrqou+FhHE= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:29:37 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 In-Reply-To: <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j413j9Wm020205 Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? Marie On 4/30/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > steph wrote: > > >for some wholly unedited queen's day pictures from today - > > > >http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/ > > > > > I especially love this one: > > http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/img_0588.html > > Why is one cat looking down at the crowds with great interest, while the > other one is looking up to the heavens seemingly begging for reprieve > from the madness? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 22:45:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j413j9Wm020204 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:45:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:45:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E392@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:34:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:34:28 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j413YRR0003594 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:34:27 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 99376432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:34:27 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050430203404.026a24f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:34:49 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 In-Reply-To: References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU HUGE. Alyce's plants were great! Betty At 08:29 PM 4/30/2005, you wrote: >Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? > Marie > > On 4/30/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > steph wrote: > > > > >for some wholly unedited queen's day pictures from today - > > > > > >http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/ > > > > > > > > I especially love this one: > > > > http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/img_0588.html > > > > Why is one cat looking down at the crowds with great interest, while the > > other one is looking up to the heavens seemingly begging for reprieve > > from the madness? > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 22:45:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j413jbWm020289 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:45:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:45:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060E55E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:45:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:45:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j413jbFs004341 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:45:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1268686nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr387271nzb; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:45:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qod8Vgw+YY9tFE47GtC3p9rtiI8oYqAx100PQn+qRfcbI9YAYag4HhSRn0ICMVXmEGZ96FXfd0yi4uu1b1oglvkxYV7FOMHb505Dn5RASww6Gbs18vi7+P8c6/YW3GZQQfUC+UC/wkUWGrOzTa8pPT6lzkYIVJOwsOW/BYIlaH4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705043020451d2f1463@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:45:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j413jbWm020289 That's what "wholly unedited" means. On 4/30/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? > Marie > > On 4/30/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > steph wrote: > > > > >for some wholly unedited queen's day pictures from today - > > > > > >http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/ > > > > > > > > I especially love this one: > > > > http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/img_0588.html > > > > Why is one cat looking down at the crowds with great interest, while the > > other one is looking up to the heavens seemingly begging for reprieve > > from the madness? > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 22:57:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j413veWm021892 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:57:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:57:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E3AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:47:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:47:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j413lekX004474 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:47:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1268835nzp for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr387290nzb; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:47:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Q1aEsROKlS3rpBaflAyGqv+ZZQGlMa7A6eKJHKdFKA7j6czzjZk2kuZmoiQmg6zggqLE8XBGbTdQQ3TizkqhFgtMB+gp/JV+YFwLWt/kwa+DaNDB7Ku0WffZunpLz5PIYL0T6MPZfwjObrMqzIpVXgxpFl47izmapl4Zg8OcdDg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050430204773c78e13@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 22:47:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j413veWm021892 On 4/30/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > So here they are...what's left of the transplants from Alyce's garden. > There > are two mystery plants in there -- identification needed. > Which are the two mystery plants? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Apr 30 23:44:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j414iVWm028096 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:44:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:44:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F3780C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 0:24:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:24:30 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j414BLvJ006127 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:11:21 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j414BKxY005965 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 00:11:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200505010411.j414BKxY005965@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marieber Meeber > > Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? They are *huge* .... and took forever to load over my 28.8 dialup connection. I gave up after about 3 pictures .... except to look at the 'cat' picture Natalie commented on ... what was also unusual is that the index which usually shows thumbnail versions of all pictures (based on experience at other online photo places) only showed a thumbnail of the 1st one and '?' for the remaining ... fotopic seems to do a better job. Whose job (the site or the user putting the picture online) is it to fix the size of the picture file? Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 02:34:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j417YcWm014225 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 02:34:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 02:34:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F379DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 3:34:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:34:38 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j417Ycv8016278 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:34:38 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1461609wra for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 00:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.83.1 with SMTP id g1mr56038wrb; Sun, 01 May 2005 00:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:34:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CUE/bhCU2va9lcDXtgR845mDJl0cy+t9HA9EL4OBKtpPAYSwSecvNa7xLKJfeTdKXCLaKk/6UkMcKJ2AO8aA5lFWV87nstsCvabw6LeGgSixoLeEPAEw9G+umwk8y1MB2VKOOHbchAz1+lAAN0uH3zEhVXsB4PSjcr+YSCQ1Mcg= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 09:34:31 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <200504302158.j3ULwWg7012031@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504302158.j3ULwWg7012031@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j417YcWm014225 > > Tell more about excessive light. > clo in cloudy Syr > Yesterday and today we have bright sunshine. Last night at 9:30 there was still lots of light in the sky. When the singer here in the bar, near the computers, began to sing "If I say you have a beautiful body, will you hold it against me?" I really felt surreal. At 11:20, when I went to bed, there was still twilight on the Western horizon. Now we are above the Arctic Circle. I imagine there will be no night tonight at all. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 02:36:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j417aFWm014315 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 02:36:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 02:36:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F37990@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 3:36:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:36:14 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j417aE9e016410 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:36:14 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1461735wra for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 00:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.21 with SMTP id v21mr63741wrv; Sun, 01 May 2005 00:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Bg/+QThgO3jBUUjdAifVvkSBJ9zBRddV7rc8R3G0gN7OCy8XASmvrTI3imeUWdSWOc/KOsKEGOMKHdjgdQee7y7QWHrKuEkJEZL8vQpUHKj2pgbEpK9uJeCs142deu+BWzAv+uAZG2690TRhajnCuZzK5bww9cLWH7erlecEWoQ= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 09:36:12 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Replacement cat In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705043009393e8ca6d1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705042918274361c1e2@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705043009393e8ca6d1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j417aFWm014315 > > I'm very tempted, but I'm not going to be home much in the next week to > keep > tabs on them. Karen > For the first week, you might want to keep them separated anyway. One of them is used to living in a bathroom. Let that continue, unless you are home to supervise. By the end of the week, they will realize they are siblings and not try to kill each other. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 03:26:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j418Q3Wm019847 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:26:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 03:26:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F37A17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 4:26:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:26:02 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j418Q1gI022022 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:26:02 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j418Q0UK013016 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:26:01 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j418Q0qG013014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:26:00 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 10:26:00 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 Message-ID: <20050501082600.GA12776@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200505010411.j414BKxY005965@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200505010411.j414BKxY005965@math.umb.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = the remaining ... fotopic seems to do a better job. Whose job (the site = or the user putting the picture online) is it to fix the size of the picture = file? = = Joan What, everybody doesn't have broadband? In this case the picture site is in my living room, so the responsibility belongs to Patrick, who just threw them up there. They're all roughly speaking 1mb, which for pictures online is huge. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 03:31:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j418V5Wm020336 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 03:31:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 03:31:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060E84E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 4:31:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:31:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j418V33i022213 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 04:31:03 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j418V2ls013056 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:31:03 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j418V2t6013054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:31:02 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 10:31:02 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 Message-ID: <20050501083102.GB12776@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = I especially love this one: = = http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/img_0588.html = = Why is one cat looking down at the crowds with great interest, while the = other one is looking up to the heavens seemingly begging for reprieve = from the madness? = = -- = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Either the neighbors across the street and upstairs were moving around, or there was a bird. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 07:34:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41CY9Wm020171 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 07:34:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:34:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F37BF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 8:34:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:34:08 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41CY8M3027605 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:34:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.196.18]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050501123408.LCHG2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:34:08 -0400 Message-ID: <4274CCBC.2080907@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 07:34:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 References: <200505010411.j414BKxY005965@math.umb.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505010411.j414BKxY005965@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan Boorstein wrote: > what was also unusual is that the index which >usually shows thumbnail versions of all pictures (based on experience at other >online photo places) only showed a thumbnail of the 1st one and '?' for >the remaining ... fotopic seems to do a better job. > I saw thumbnails of all of them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 07:42:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41CgfWm020790 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 07:42:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:42:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060EA11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 8:33:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:33:13 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41CXDFs027544 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:33:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.196.18]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050501123313.LCBV2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:33:13 -0400 Message-ID: <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 07:33:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? > > They're huge. I gathered that's what she meant by saying they were unedited. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 07:42:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41CgfWm020792 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 07:42:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:42:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060E95F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 8:32:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:32:40 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41CWeVA027516 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:32:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.196.18]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050501123240.LBZG2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:32:40 -0400 Message-ID: <4274CC63.6030208@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 07:32:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >So here they are...what's left of the transplants from Alyce's garden. There >are two mystery plants in there -- identification needed. > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c520725.html > Happy belated birthday, Alyce. > > I can't help with the identification, but I am happy to see the plants. I hope they thrive and that various others of us get snippings of them to plant -- little bits of Alyce blooming all over the country, if not all over the globe. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 08:09:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41D9iWm023982 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:09:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:09:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F37C7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 9:09:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:09:44 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j41D9h3I029477 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:09:43 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050115080611998 for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 15:08:06 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.33] ([158.39.120.33]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 1 May 2005 15:09:41 +0200 Message-ID: <4274D515.3000800@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 15:09:41 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429175146.GA32749@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427323AE.1010303@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2005 13:09:41.0797 (UTC) FILETIME=[0974F550:01C54E4F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev skrev 30.04.2005 21:16: >>I was home from Rana at 22:45 last night, today will be a quiet day, >>maybe some backgammon at home, and tomorrow we will sneak through the >>demonstrating masses and go and take a walk in an open air museum. >>Espen >> >> > > >We'll be in Bodo tomorrow. Will they be demonstrating? What about? > > > It is the international labour day today - at least in most countries. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 08:31:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41DVkWm026652 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:31:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:31:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F37CA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 9:31:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:31:46 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41DVkw9030481 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:31:46 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1333213wri for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 06:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.123.5 with SMTP id v5mr128252wrc; Sun, 01 May 2005 06:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 06:31:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=olZQndQwU95RYc6WB4HLWXIlxLrfrKwOBGMwE9Uaj/6HgdGVYXjpnJQN/6oHfbPZR9t/N+LMFzBG+s+uQyBkHlUByg8pmafHtzHmCIQQ2dY7WSmXXeCdBWIDDdtxSWOBWagTlmzXHInGFEz8rGYgSc0x3cCPP00KfsRP0/3PQOM= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 09:31:45 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050430204773c78e13@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050430204773c78e13@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j41DVkWm026652 Mystery 1: http://marieascher.fotopic.net/p14395721.html Mystery 2: http://marieascher.fotopic.net/p14395725.html I'm sure they aren't really that mysterious, I just haven't bothered... Mystery 1 is the plant I thought was a goner right off, I can't believe it survived, it seemed so fragile and wilted. Mystery 2 hasn't yet bloomed here, but looks pretty healthy. I don't remember what its flowers may have looked like. Marie On 4/30/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 4/30/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > > So here they are...what's left of the transplants from Alyce's garden. > > There > > are two mystery plants in there -- identification needed. > > > > Which are the two mystery plants? > > Karen > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 08:58:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41DvrWm030377 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 08:58:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:58:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E8D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 9:47:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:47:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41DlqOk031402 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:47:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1318743nzp for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 06:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr424607nzb; Sun, 01 May 2005 06:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 06:47:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aHsNIx6Gbq1LtlQ9iYRczRPrMm2RSp9KSrw9R5BWNvYDw2l5M4T1LMXN8QaYHNafJ1q6X997pvkBYUI62C0B8JHgBkksvs1T18OPMTl67q+tjoE0kxV1wQ1hxX1LOuLhrD5ZBhsqSzLvDiekMc5jwputW920ET9fdu8sIzoLh2Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050501064758fd0b4d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 08:47:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050430204773c78e13@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j41DvrWm030377 On 5/1/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > Mystery 1: > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/p14395721.html I thought this was lily-of-the-valley, but as I look at it again, the leaves don't look right. Mystery 2: > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/p14395725.html I thought this was some sort of fern--the name is on the tip of my mind. I think a horse is involved. What was the last picture? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 09:13:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41ED5Wm032595 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:13:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:13:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060E9EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 10:03:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:03:05 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41E34r0032114 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:03:04 -0400 Received: from [151.199.61.134] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 89606610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:02:54 -0400 Message-ID: <4274E205.3080203@bc.edu> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:04:53 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 References: <200505010411.j414BKxY005965@math.umb.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505010411.j414BKxY005965@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan Boorstein wrote: >>From: Marieber Meeber >> >>Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? > > > They are *huge* .... and took forever to load over my 28.8 dialup connection. > I gave up after about 3 pictures .... except to look at the 'cat' picture > Natalie commented on ... what was also unusual is that the index which > usually shows thumbnail versions of all pictures (based on experience at other > online photo places) only showed a thumbnail of the 1st one and '?' for > the remaining ... fotopic seems to do a better job. Whose job (the site > or the user putting the picture online) is it to fix the size of the picture > file? > > Joan This has to do with the speed (or lack thereof) of your connection. The thumbnails have to be loaded and until they are, the '?' is a place holder. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 09:24:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41EOlWm001323 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:24:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:24:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E92A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 10:24:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:24:47 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41EOlQI000838 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:24:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1338807wri for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.113.9 with SMTP id l9mr142975wrc; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 07:24:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eQKfSKAe62lsTUV1fcePew4LQPUTh4AlMHjDt14fSjRrWLV1MSuuzAOmOmU1XIFSyzboUr/NcMsxgFZ3Y6Q0LW/k1lMhIiZAT6qDLZJLMRrypmpzj2G4VjfswAu7mU/8b6CNt0pmGmMghOcOUeMvZiDCEAJVP5nsgmFaJkZP/FI= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 10:24:46 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050501064758fd0b4d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050430204773c78e13@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050501064758fd0b4d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j41EOlWm001323 On 5/1/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 5/1/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > > Mystery 1: > > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/p14395721.html > > I thought this was lily-of-the-valley, but as I look at it again, the > leaves > don't look right. No the leaves aren't right at all -- they are more , and the whole plant is much bigger than a lily of the valley, the flowers proportionally much more so. And I don't know if you can tell by the photo, they are a light purple color. Somewhat hostas-like but not quite, and the leaves aren't corrogated like a hostas's. Mystery 2: > > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/p14395725.html > > I thought this was some sort of fern--the name is on the tip of my mind. I > think a horse is involved. I just looked in a Perennials book, and I think it's a kind of Trollius. Similar to: http://www.horticopia.com/hortpix/html/pc5339.htm or http://www.horticopia.com/hortpix/html/pc5340.htm if you look at the leaves. But like I said, it hasn't yet bloomed here (nor last year), so I don't know what its flowers might look like. Or maybe it's a kind of geranium...I'm suddenly remembering Alyce's fondness for geraniums...I do think that's it. > What was the last picture? A peony. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 09:43:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41EhAWm003096 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:43:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:43:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F37D49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 10:43:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:43:10 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41Eh9JU001784 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:43:10 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j41Eh97M030358 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:43:09 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.22] (pool-64-222-44-155.prov.east.verizon.net [64.222.44.155]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j41EfqLU001104 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:41:54 -0400 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:37:00 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: Alyce's plants Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So here they are...what's left of the transplants from Alyce's garden. There >are two mystery plants in there -- identification needed. > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c520725.html > Happy belated birthday, Alyce. I think mystery #2 is a May Apple. > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com /Jim http://words-l.org/images/jb From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 09:48:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41EmDWm003679 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:48:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:48:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E944@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 10:48:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:48:06 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41Em5C9002013 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:48:05 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 56000873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 01 May 2005 07:48:05 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 07:48:34 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 In-Reply-To: <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:33 AM 5/1/2005, you wrote: >Marieber Meeber wrote: > >>Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? >> >They're huge. I gathered that's what she meant by saying they were >unedited. Yes, but they are great! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 10:56:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41FuGWm012117 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:56:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:56:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EAC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 11:56:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:56:16 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41FuGBX007330 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:56:16 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 56011440; Sun, 01 May 2005 08:56:13 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050501085002.02788de0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 08:56:42 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Alyce's plants and FFest In-Reply-To: <200505011538.j41FcwYj005945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505011538.j41FcwYj005945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >In the meantime - Betty, I found this for you while surfing for flower >identification: > >http://www.niagaraparks.com/nature/botanical.php > >clo Thank you! We are looking forward to exploring the other links on that page, too. We're staying for a couple of days at a B&B with free wireless internet access so it's so nice to be able to bookmark these. We're staying here: http://www.infoniagara.com/bb/Niagara-Falls/eastwood/index.html in the Oak Room. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 10:59:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41FwwWm012364 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:58:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:59:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F37DF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 11:38:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:38:58 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41FcwYj005945 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:38:58 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F37DA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 11:38:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200505011538.j41FcwYj005945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:38:57 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Alyce's plants and FFest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 1 May 2005 11:37:00 -0400, Jim Bradley wrote: >>So here they are...what's left of the transplants from Alyce's garden. There >>are two mystery plants in there -- identification needed. >> http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c520725.html >> Happy belated birthday, Alyce. > >I think mystery #2 is a May Apple. > >> >>-- >>Marie >>marieber@gmail.com > > >/Jim >http://words-l.org/images/jb Hmm. I've seen both plants before. The bell-shaped flower grew in grandmotherly gardens all around me as a kid; I know it's not Sweet William or Harebells, but the name escapes me. It's - the leaves are kind of like violets or African violets, aren't they - a little hairy, and juicy? I remember transplanting it; like violets, they wilt immediately and you think they're goners; but like the grandmothers who grew them, they're tougher than they look. The other plant... I don't think Mayapple, I want to say another plant but I'm not so good with leaves. Show us a picture when it blooms! In the meantime - Betty, I found this for you while surfing for flower identification: http://www.niagaraparks.com/nature/botanical.php clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:12:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GC8Wm014375 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:12:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:12:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E9DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:12:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:12:08 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j41G28hF007734 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:02:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 7023 invoked by uid 1003); 1 May 2005 16:02:07 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:02:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life Message-ID: <20050501160207.GA6634@words-l.org> References: <200504301802.j3UI2h3Z020960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200504301802.j3UI2h3Z020960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 02:02:43PM -0400, Mrs. Williams wrote: > On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:39:14 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > > >On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 06:00:23PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> >Statistics don't mean a shit if you're one of the statistics. That > >> >goes for both murder victim and lottery winner. > >> > >> > >> So what does that have to do with the price of broccoli in Trinidad?? > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > >That's a statistic. > > Broccoli there would be more dear than plaintain. Da's a surety, meh deah. Don't mean a shit if you're the plantain. That goes for broccoli too. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:13:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GCqWm014489 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:12:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:13:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060EB99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:12:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:12:51 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j41G2pFA007768 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:02:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 7456 invoked by uid 1003); 1 May 2005 16:02:51 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:02:51 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: From the Marin Independant Journal: Message-ID: <20050501160251.GB6634@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 11:11:46AM -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > ALL FAITH RETREAT > > Unity in Marin presents an all faith silent retreat Thursday from 9:30 > a.m. to 7 p.m. for people to spend the day in silence, read, create art, > have a massage or pray. The spiritual intensity is blinding me here From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:25:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GP8Wm016130 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:25:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:25:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EAF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:17:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:17:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j41G7PKS008014 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:07:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 16258 invoked by uid 1003); 1 May 2005 16:07:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:07:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 Message-ID: <20050501160725.GD6634@words-l.org> References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Your *huge*? I did not need to know that :-(((((( On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 11:29:37PM -0400, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? > Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:25:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GP8Wm016127 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:25:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:25:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EAED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:15:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:15:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j41G56K1007898 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:05:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 15416 invoked by uid 1003); 1 May 2005 16:05:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:05:06 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny Message-ID: <20050501160506.GC6634@words-l.org> References: <427413AA.9070309@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427413AA.9070309@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 06:24:26PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't know why I find this so funny, but I do: Somebody > accidentally sold the church computer at the rummage sale. You have become so CHURCH, man ... finding this "funny" and all ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:25:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GP8Wm016125 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:25:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:25:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E9EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:21:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:21:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j41GBm53008221 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:11:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 19516 invoked by uid 1003); 1 May 2005 16:11:48 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:11:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 Message-ID: <20050501161148.GG6634@words-l.org> References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 07:48:34AM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: > At 05:33 AM 5/1/2005, you wrote: > >Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > >>Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? > >> > >They're huge. I gathered that's what she meant by saying they were > >unedited. > > Yes, but they are great! We are aware that "great" is another word for "huge", thank you. Seriously, those pictures are HUGE. It's not just me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:25:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GP8Wm016123 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:25:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:25:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EAF2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:19:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:19:04 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j41G8tgx008099 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:08:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 16722 invoked by uid 1003); 1 May 2005 16:08:55 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:08:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 Message-ID: <20050501160855.GE6634@words-l.org> References: <200505010411.j414BKxY005965@math.umb.edu> <20050501082600.GA12776@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050501082600.GA12776@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:26:00AM +0200, steph wrote: > What, everybody doesn't have broadband? > > In this case the picture site is in my living room, so the > responsibility belongs to Patrick, who just threw them up there. > They're all roughly speaking 1mb, which for pictures online is huge. Ah, huge. Yes, they are somewhat HUGE. Does anybody else think they are *HUGE*? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:25:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GP8Wm016129 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:25:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:25:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060E9EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:19:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:19:46 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j41G9kDk008141 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:09:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 17657 invoked by uid 1003); 1 May 2005 16:09:45 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:09:45 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 Message-ID: <20050501160945.GF6634@words-l.org> References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 07:33:09AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Marieber Meeber wrote: > > >Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? > > > They're huge. I gathered that's what she meant by saying they were > unedited. Not just unedited but wholly so. No wonder they are *huge*! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:48:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GlwWm018823 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:47:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:48:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EB18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:47:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:47:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41GljCU010508 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:47:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1342382nzp for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.6 with SMTP id g6mr436406nzg; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:47:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kZCP3FlNc5ucWLw6noycL0O/IvL+msiq2ThbKadnOaiVWwHn4VrA7NvM3soR+T4BS0lsrsxyhQ+lu+jDnH4e4PlJOk0ZIfi6JYT+W4u5j1TpULLoegS5uejjQhk2Jh/d4EjPuj1oQ2oiTaxTn9M987ybzJrAPFy/94JN+IY6Hzw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050501094792a9e5a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:47:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050430204773c78e13@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050501064758fd0b4d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j41GlwWm018823 On 5/1/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > On 5/1/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > On 5/1/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > > > > Mystery 1: > > > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/p14395721.html > > > > I thought this was lily-of-the-valley, but as I look at it again, the > > leaves > > don't look right. > > No the leaves aren't right at all -- they are more , and the whole > plant is much bigger than a lily of the valley, the flowers proportionally > much more so. And I don't know if you can tell by the photo, they are a > light purple color. Somewhat hostas-like but not quite, and the leaves > aren't corrogated like a hostas's. Hosta was my other guess, but I've never seen them bloom. Or maybe it's a kind of geranium...I'm suddenly remembering Alyce's > fondness for geraniums...I do think that's it. I am obviously shitty at plant identification from photographs. > What was the last picture? > > A peony. That was actually my guess, because a friend has been posting pictures of her seedlings. Interesting that gmail just snuck that bit of html in without my permission. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:48:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GmNWm018891 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:48:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:48:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F37E79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:48:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:48:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41GmMLv010578 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:48:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1355526wri for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.122.11 with SMTP id u11mr188851wrc; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:48:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sAJ9duYEWNV51yij+eocWaYxKF7ppj+ZExXIWINHmh+FafgkIiu/9JC62rapCPulFGFAORs3z7//Eo1ffrdU8b2bWhzuahST/fVjAnDzw2ZJdG7EtMC6jxD7Fe+rW4lnjFNQholceTAxSEm92IKfddRv5+ze/Fm96C9ZinDHfrY= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:48:22 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants and FFest In-Reply-To: <200505011538.j41FcwYj005945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505011538.j41FcwYj005945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j41GmNWm018891 On 5/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Hmm. I've seen both plants before. The bell-shaped flower grew in > grandmotherly gardens all around me as a kid; I know it's not Sweet > William or Harebells, but the name escapes me. It's - the leaves > are kind of like violets or African violets, aren't they - a little > hairy, and juicy? No not hairy at all -- more lettucy. In any case, Bruce's stepmother was just here and she took one look and said, "Martensia virginica, Virginia Blue Bell". I didn't take her around back, but I'm now convinced the other is a wild geranium. I'll take another photo when/if it blooms. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:53:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GrrWm019397 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:53:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:53:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060EBD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:53:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:53:53 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41GrrC8011052 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:53:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F37EC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:53:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200505011653.j41GrrC8011052@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:53:53 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Alyce's plants and FFest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 1 May 2005 12:48:22 -0400, Marieber Meeber wrote: >On 5/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> Hmm. I've seen both plants before. The bell-shaped flower grew in >> grandmotherly gardens all around me as a kid; I know it's not Sweet >> William or Harebells, but the name escapes me. It's - the leaves >> are kind of like violets or African violets, aren't they - a little >> hairy, and juicy? > > No not hairy at all -- more lettucy. > In any case, Bruce's stepmother was just here and she took one look and >said, "Martensia virginica, Virginia Blue Bell". > I didn't take her around back, but I'm now convinced the other is a wild >geranium. >I'll take another photo when/if it blooms. > -- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com Thank you. I've been all around the dusty corners of my memory muttering "bell, bell". Not Canterbury Bells, not Harebells, not Texas Bluebells - and suddenly remembered VA blue bells, probably just about the time you didn't need me to remember any more. Which of the other plants is the mystery one? I'm all for peony for the last picture, but you wouldn't confuse that with geranium. Is is the low-lying lobed leaves? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:57:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GvlWm019676 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:57:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:57:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EB35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:57:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:57:47 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41GvlJC011376 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:57:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1356616wri for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.77.8 with SMTP id z8mr191214wra; Sun, 01 May 2005 09:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:57:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kvUVtq/3bxxTcPxnAYrno+rxGbXLVTYTEEhcL/GU6LGmA5zWTHh+4vM9RiPZc83D+73dTfvZ5b+UVN52eRSaGcLpRTEmqymbNWevYT891jlz1DUL5crejVBW7QOPctRnXnErJC6Dlg7t1V1JZ2yJkm9GkKXv0bJLfIlTdxYRlJw= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:57:47 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants and FFest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505011538.j41FcwYj005945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j41GvlWm019676 That's "Mertensia" and she's exactly right. Marie On 5/1/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > On 5/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > > Hmm. I've seen both plants before. The bell-shaped flower grew in > > grandmotherly gardens all around me as a kid; I know it's not Sweet > > William or Harebells, but the name escapes me. It's - the leaves > > are kind of like violets or African violets, aren't they - a little > > hairy, and juicy? > > No not hairy at all -- more lettucy. > In any case, Bruce's stepmother was just here and she took one look and > said, "Martensia virginica, Virginia Blue Bell". > I didn't take her around back, but I'm now convinced the other is a wild > geranium. > I'll take another photo when/if it blooms. > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 11:58:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41GwbWm019710 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 11:58:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 11:58:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060EBE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:58:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:58:37 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41Gwbp8011500 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:58:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F37EE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 12:58:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200505011658.j41Gwbp8011500@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:58:37 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Alyce's plants and FFest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 1 May 2005 12:48:22 -0400, Marieber Meeber wrote: >On 5/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> Hmm. I've seen both plants before. The bell-shaped flower grew in >> grandmotherly gardens all around me as a kid; I know it's not Sweet >> William or Harebells, but the name escapes me. It's - the leaves >> are kind of like violets or African violets, aren't they - a little >> hairy, and juicy? > > No not hairy at all -- more lettucy. > In any case, Bruce's stepmother was just here and she took one look and >said, "Martensia virginica, Virginia Blue Bell". http://www.data2action.com/wildflowers/bluebell.shtml clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 12:21:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41HLCWm022906 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:21:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 12:21:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EB4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 13:11:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:11:09 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41HB9Hk012369 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:11:09 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F37F1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 13:11:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200505011711.j41HB9Hk012369@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:11:08 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Alyce's plants and FFest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 1 May 2005 12:48:22 -0400, Marieber Meeber wrote: > I didn't take her around back, but I'm now convinced the other is a wild >geranium. >I'll take another photo when/if it blooms. > -- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com Geranium family, I would buy. Wild Geranium, I don't think so. http://www.data2action.com/wildflowers/geranium.shtml I sometimes get confused between mallows and geraniums in the wild. Is the flower yellow, pink, or white? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 12:21:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41HLCWm022904 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:21:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 12:21:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060EBEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 13:01:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:01:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41H1Ath011734 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:01:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1357004wri for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.122.13 with SMTP id u13mr191730wrc; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:01:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=P7FKHdOvIu/rCtGPPd/vpYZH9GY04hyP4viGIsCuHeBbRpyww6qXXPRkcHEIX1Scbs/9+tGiYUyMFbFiwqylgQQ4L3RRfIjvpI7l4XmF+PqSN4+iVJx8Pj7LgRHwttPPi7Atcr8akLzFnjBG/G2VUTkd9ptoueRjmE68EFHznYg= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:01:09 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants and FFest In-Reply-To: <200505011653.j41GrrC8011052@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505011653.j41GrrC8011052@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j41HLCWm022904 The last one is peony. It's the one before with the interesting (not lobed) leaves. This one: http://marieascher.fotopic.net/p14395725.html Marie On 5/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Sun, 1 May 2005 12:48:22 -0400, Marieber Meeber > wrote: > > >On 5/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> > >> Hmm. I've seen both plants before. The bell-shaped flower grew in > >> grandmotherly gardens all around me as a kid; I know it's not Sweet > >> William or Harebells, but the name escapes me. It's - the leaves > >> are kind of like violets or African violets, aren't they - a little > >> hairy, and juicy? > > > > No not hairy at all -- more lettucy. > > In any case, Bruce's stepmother was just here and she took one look and > >said, "Martensia virginica, Virginia Blue Bell". > > I didn't take her around back, but I'm now convinced the other is a wild > >geranium. > >I'll take another photo when/if it blooms. > > -- > >Marie > >marieber@gmail.com > > Thank you. I've been all around the dusty corners of my memory > muttering "bell, bell". Not Canterbury Bells, not Harebells, not > Texas Bluebells - and suddenly remembered VA blue bells, probably > just about the time you didn't need me to remember any more. > > Which of the other plants is the mystery one? I'm all for peony for > the last picture, but you wouldn't confuse that with geranium. Is is the > low-lying lobed leaves? > clo > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 12:45:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41HjLWm026072 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:45:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 12:45:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060EA90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 13:45:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:45:21 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41HjLEs014654 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:45:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1362300wri for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.122.17 with SMTP id u17mr208260wrc; Sun, 01 May 2005 10:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 10:45:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TDLCZMw0uq+9OV1h3AOyiTz8N1P6gkWamviN0naTw0ZSbf5uESFN14pcIpFXHV824vZ51xC0oaI4pufzQzkNoMuZRXiaDSttR8/54cHqyOdR+BnIBm5mrioXNp+sUs3bXZlr76IPnmEV1u94OinyOEX0YiUq17Iuhxp9WtLSLE4= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:45:20 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants and FFest In-Reply-To: <200505011711.j41HB9Hk012369@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505011711.j41HB9Hk012369@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j41HjLWm026072 On 5/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: I sometimes get confused between mallows and geraniums in the wild. Is the flower yellow, pink, or white? I think I'm mentioned that I've never seen it bloom, so I don't know, but the leaf is very similar to this Geranium himalayense: http://www.em.ca/garden/per_geranium_birch_double.html Or "Johnson's Blue": http://www.shared-visions.com/explore/gardens/Geranium%20'Johnson's%20Blue'.htm -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 13:11:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41IBFWm029285 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 13:11:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 13:11:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060EC63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 14:01:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:01:14 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41I1DRB015467 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:01:14 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j41I1CRK015830 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:01:12 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j41I1B8I015828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:01:11 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:01:11 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 Message-ID: <20050501180111.GA15791@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 07:48:34AM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: = At 05:33 AM 5/1/2005, you wrote: = >Marieber Meeber wrote: = > = >>Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? = >> = >They're huge. I gathered that's what she meant by saying they were = >unedited. = = Yes, but they are great! = Well, thanks. New and improved (read: shrunk): http://www.patnsteph.net/qd2005/ the script is now in place to do this automagically. YaY! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 14:17:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41JHLWm004312 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 14:17:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 14:17:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EC98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 15:17:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 142124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 15:17:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41JHL2M020233 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 15:17:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1363191nzp for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 12:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.12 with SMTP id h12mr446993nzh; Sun, 01 May 2005 12:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 12:17:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BwMfEMsMIZn6ClXmKKKMjPCdDqW72i1+Exg9lie8/vzhkRiv5B2tXA0bzc46COScz9EWK6DW16kgCGxVLUS2CjF9zGDbvEpargnmSVbaMopuxmHF8GLT+YmYq+J07dK7VGfEj4DrVADL7rqSOBcqIViPefe1FSRur8Baja6FaXM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050112174bba7c57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 14:17:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 In-Reply-To: <20050501180111.GA15791@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050501180111.GA15791@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j41JHLWm004312 I still can't get over how narrow the street is. On 5/1/05, steph wrote: > > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 07:48:34AM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: > = At 05:33 AM 5/1/2005, you wrote: > = >Marieber Meeber wrote: > = > > = >>Are those pictures *huge* or is it just me??? > = >> > = >They're huge. I gathered that's what she meant by saying they were > = >unedited. > = > = Yes, but they are great! > = > > Well, thanks. New and improved (read: shrunk): > http://www.patnsteph.net/qd2005/ > > the script is now in place to do this automagically. YaY! > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 16:36:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41LaPWm021134 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:36:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 16:36:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060EF02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 17:36:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:36:25 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41LaOu7029183 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:36:24 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j41LaNqk016827 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:36:23 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j41LaNnw016825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:36:23 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:36:23 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 Message-ID: <20050501213623.GA16617@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050501180111.GA15791@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050112174bba7c57@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050112174bba7c57@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 02:17:20PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = I still can't get over how narrow the street is. = Get over it. For you Karen: tomatoes http://www.flickr.com/photos/srm/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 17:36:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41MaDWm028661 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 17:36:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 17:36:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060EF8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 18:36:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:36:12 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j41MQBLq000522 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:26:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 7025 invoked by uid 1003); 1 May 2005 22:26:11 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 17:26:11 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 Message-ID: <20050501222611.GA5849@words-l.org> References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050501180111.GA15791@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050112174bba7c57@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050112174bba7c57@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 02:17:20PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I still can't get over how narrow the street is. Isn't this pretty normal for old cities? What's Japan like? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 18:06:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41N5sWm032445 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:05:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:06:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060EFC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 19:05:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:05:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41N5rku003543 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:05:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1394293nzp for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 16:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.20 with SMTP id y20mr187416nzb; Sun, 01 May 2005 16:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:05:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dnhg8RsWQREDG6ykXIV+qqjYe5NVvRbMqjOBH+x+fBMBfI8ex42/G9L15SZc3lxdqAD+wJqR2rxFcjqZekqzqf6LQIf4r65tDdp5uFelk6LcHoRXG98xoqSBnBAYwGMHhEzS8oReYQBj4d04GNM3EPuKqRKc18AWMwGiZYRWNZc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050116051ebf5017@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:05:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: queen's day 2005 In-Reply-To: <20050501222611.GA5849@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050501180111.GA15791@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050112174bba7c57@mail.gmail.com> <20050501222611.GA5849@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j41N5sWm032445 On 5/1/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 02:17:20PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > I still can't get over how narrow the street is. > > Isn't this pretty normal for old cities? What's Japan like? Narrow streets in some places. It's just been a long time since I've been somewhere that had such narrow streets. That's all. Intellecturally, I know that there are narrow streets in Yurop. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 18:20:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41NKGWm001063 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:20:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:20:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060EE2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 19:20:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:20:15 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41NKFIC004628 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:20:15 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D3A77BE8C3; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC98DC284A for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 16:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 16:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: May Poles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lots of Maypole pictures here: http://www.lyndonirwin.com/maypole.htm I'm looking for a virtual maypole dance, though. These are just old postcards. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 18:39:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41NdcWm003718 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:39:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:39:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EF58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 19:39:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:39:38 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j41NdcuK005754 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:39:38 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1707C66A26AD3 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:39:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: May Poles Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:39:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Borkin" To: Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: May Poles > Lots of Maypole pictures here: > > http://www.lyndonirwin.com/maypole.htm > > I'm looking for a virtual maypole dance, though. These are just old > postcards. > > Ann I wonder if any of you ever participated in a maypole dance. I did, every spring, on our schoolyard on May 1. And did any of you have in your schoolyard something called Giant Strides? It was a pole with chains hanging from around the top, and at the end of each heavy chain was a hand hold. You gripped it, then you ran and ran and got the pole going around and around and then you lifted off the ground and soared round and round. It was wonderful. It was also what we used for our maypole dance. - D. M. (Daughter of Maypoles) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 18:49:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j41Nn8Wm004661 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:49:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:49:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060F019@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 19:49:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:49:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j41Nd64h005716 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:39:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 60137 invoked by uid 1003); 1 May 2005 23:39:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:39:05 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles Message-ID: <20050501233905.GA57810@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 04:20:12PM -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > Lots of Maypole pictures here: > > http://www.lyndonirwin.com/maypole.htm > > I'm looking for a virtual maypole dance, though. These are just old > postcards. "The Hoop Dance" heh heh heh heh From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 19:09:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4209FWm006801 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:09:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 19:09:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EF8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 20:09:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:09:14 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4209DKc007370 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:09:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.173.238]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050502000913.FFSJ1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:09:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 19:08:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles References: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I wonder if any of you ever participated in a > maypole dance. I did, every spring, on our > schoolyard on May 1. I missed it by only one year. That was almost (but not quite) as painful as the fact that my fifteenth birthday fell on a Sunday, thus delaying my driver's license acquisition by one day. There was a big May Day to-do for "all" the elementary schools in Jackson once every three years. ("All" = all the white schools, of course.) The children in a certain grade spent recess every day for ages mastering the particular dance for that grade. All over town this was going on. Then there was the presentation in a large stadium on (or I guess near) May 1. I've got home movies of some of them, and they really were impressive, the whole football field filled with children (lily white, of course) doing the same dances and wearing the assigned attire (which our mothers had to make for us -- and remind me to tell you how happy I was yesterday re my mother's old sewing machine -- or did I tell that story last night?). Anyway, my years for the May Day to-do happened to be second grade and FIFTH GRADE. And it was only the six-graders who did the actual maypole dance. That was the grand finale of the event. > And did any of you have in your schoolyard > something called Giant Strides? It was a pole > with chains hanging from around the top, and > at the end of each heavy chain was a hand hold. > You gripped it, then you ran and ran and got the > pole going around and around and then you lifted > off the ground and soared round and round. It was > wonderful. It was also what we used for our > maypole dance. I don't remember anything exactly like that. We of course had a jungle gym but nothing like what you're describing. It sounds fun. Re maypoles, the person who ran today's church service brought a Gaea statue for us to admire in honor of May Day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 19:20:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j420KSWm007667 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:20:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 19:20:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EFA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 20:20:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:20:28 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j420KSnN008180 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:20:28 -0400 Received: from [151.199.61.134] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 95640365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:20:32 -0400 Message-ID: <427572B4.4070409@bc.edu> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:22:12 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles References: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > our mothers had to make for us -- and remind me to tell you how happy I > was yesterday re my mother's old sewing machine -- or did I tell that > story last night?). If you did, I didn't see it and if you sold an old wonderful sewing machine for short money and I didn't know about it, I will be very, very , P.O.'d. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 19:46:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j420kTWm009917 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 19:46:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 19:46:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060EFCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 20:46:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:46:28 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j420aMkH009114 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:36:22 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j420ZrKW012562 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:35:54 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:36:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: re may poles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "And did any of you have in your schoolyard something called Giant Strides? It was a pole with chains hanging from around the top, and at the end of each heavy chain was a hand hold. ..." I remember one, though I do not reall having a name for it. I also do not recall where it was - I went to about eight different schools before reaching the fifth grade. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 20:10:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j421AZWm012510 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:10:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:10:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F38572@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 21:00:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:00:34 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4210YCl010756 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:00:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.173.238]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050502010034.UVBW2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:00:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42757BAD.3080706@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 20:00:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles References: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> <427572B4.4070409@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <427572B4.4070409@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >> our mothers had to make for us -- and remind me to tell you how happy I >> was yesterday re my mother's old sewing machine -- or did I tell that >> story last night?). > > If you did, I didn't see it and if you sold an old wonderful sewing > machine for short money and I didn't know about it, I will be very, very > , P.O.'d. Oh, dear. I had no idea you were into old sewing machines! I'm not sure how short the money was -- I was about to mark it at $10, when one of the other workers told me to mark it at $50 -- and that's what it sold for. Here's the story: My mother, who *hated* sewing but did it because that's what housewives/mothers of her generation were expected to do, got this sewing machine around 1935. She made some clothes in the early years, clothes that (she claimed) were atrocious. (She loved telling the story of my having on a home-made dress sometime in my toddlerhood and a neighbor's asking me where I'd gotten the dress -- probably, my mother said, because it looked so horrible. I supposedly said to the neighbor, "Mama bought it for me at the Jitney Jungle." The Jitney Jungle was the grocery store. The neighbor told my mother what I'd said -- I have no memory of it but can imagine that I might have assumed at age three or so that everything came from the Jitney Jungle.) Anyway, she did make the requisite costumes for children's plays, May-Day to-dos, Christmas parades, etc. And she even did some things much later like making some curtains. But many years ago the sewing machine, in its case and with its little Singer Sewing Machine booklet, found itself never emerging from the closet. Even though my mother hated sewing, I couldn't stand the thought of seeing that sewing machine thrown away, which is what was happening to all of her stuff unless I rescued it after she moved out of the house in Hville. So I brought the sewing machine to Starkville and then to Jackson. When gathering stuff for the rummage sale, I thought about it but decided not to take it. Then sometime Friday afternoon (of the two-day sale), when I came home and gathered up a bunch more jewelry since jewelry was selling very well, I decided to go on and take the sewing machine -- that there was no point in its sitting in the garage and then getting thrown into the garbage when I die. When I got it there, the minister and others told me that I should really sell it to an antique dealer. I said that sometimes antique dealers of the junk-store kind came to rummage sales. Somebody then advised me when I asked what price I should put on it, since I hadn't priced it yet (we brought our stuff already with price stickers, for simplicity), to ask $50. I put the sticker on it, thinking there was no chance at all that anybody would pay that for it, and said that if it didn't sell, I'd take it back home before the Goodwill truck arrived for the leftover stuff -- that I didn't want it to go to the Goodwill store. I could add more details to this story, but instead I'll jump to the conclusion: a super nice woman and her teenaged daughter bought it without batting an eye at the price. They asked me whether it worked, and I told them that I didn't know -- that I did know that it used to work. I told them its history briefly, and they said that they wanted it -- that the teenager was into quilting and that supposedly old sewing machines were wonderful for quilting. They were the kind of people who would not be po'ed if it turned out not to be wonderful for quilting, though. I could tell by talking to them. Before they left, they asked me what my mother's name was. I told them, and they said that they would call the machine "Grace's machine." I loved it. They live in Madison and go to church at The Haunted Church. I think I mentioned The Haunted Church before -- a wonderful old Episcopal Church, the real name of which is Chapel of the Cross. We talked about the old graves there. Anyway, I feel very good about the fate of the sewing machine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 20:59:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j421xDWm018563 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:59:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:59:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060F03F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 21:49:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 154771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:49:12 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j421nCYw017274 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:49:12 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id C1331BE8C1; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65BBC284A for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:49:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles In-Reply-To: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > http://www.lyndonirwin.com/maypole.htm > > > something called Giant Strides? It was a pole > with chains hanging from around the top, and > at the end of each heavy chain was a hand hold. > You gripped it, then you ran and ran and got the > pole going around and around and then you lifted > off the ground and soared round and round. It was > wonderful. It was also what we used for our Yes. Actually, there's one of these in the postcards in the site above. But until you described how it felt, I had forgotten I'd ever played on one. You're right, Doris. It was a -wonderful- ride. Probably it was dangerous since I can't imagine why they apparently aren't in use any more. Am I remembering right, that it was a girls' thing? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 20:59:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j421xDWm018564 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:59:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:59:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060EF3F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 21:53:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 154932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:53:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j421rUir017868 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:53:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1415089nzp for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.18 with SMTP id f18mr475186nzb; Sun, 01 May 2005 18:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:53:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ZGGVslpgO+adgp29nKdcnMWKX8hxYvm9QqPQxgGnHXZ5r/Yplkqms7a+2lhWC1bvid2/169ayWx4GWRclkatVWp3h3lcKiO2g0J3Gi6WaN4vNUcFnYuB+isGPOZJRbgt+QE+CAv3nifsK+qx0MDHCd72WIywKVol0oBQZFqfWTo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050118533de81e90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:53:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: It's official Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j421xDWm018564 The Perfect Cat comes to stay on Friday. The Finicky Cat goes to stay with someone else tonight. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 1 22:12:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j423CnWm026215 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:12:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 22:12:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060F182@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 1 May 2005 23:12:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:12:48 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j423CmnC031339 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 23:12:48 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EE73D2A531762 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:11:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001e01c54ec4$a233fdc0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: May Poles Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 22:11:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Yes. Actually, there's one of these in the postcards in the site above. > But until you described how it felt, I had forgotten I'd ever played on > one. > > You're right, Doris. It was a -wonderful- ride. Probably it was > dangerous since I can't imagine why they apparently aren't in use any > more. > > Am I remembering right, that it was a girls' thing? > > Ann Oh no. The boys could really go far out and high. I think I was scared to be on it when boys were, for fear they would make it go too fast . . or they would bump into me. That sometimes happened, and kids got their chain tangled up with the one next to them, or something like that. My grandmother lived across the street from the school, and when I was at her house for a weekend I would go over to the playground by myself. Somehow, with no one watching, I could fly higher on the Strides, swing higher on the swings, do better tricks on the trapeze, etc. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 02:19:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j427J7Wm014671 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 02:19:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 02:19:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060F631@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 3:09:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:09:07 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j42795Dq010344 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:09:06 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050209072913581 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 09:07:29 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 2 May 2005 09:09:11 +0200 Message-ID: <4275D216.3000803@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:09:10 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's official References: <8ddfc8a705050118533de81e90@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050118533de81e90@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2005 07:09:11.0461 (UTC) FILETIME=[D72F5D50:01C54EE5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 02.05.2005 03:53: >The Perfect Cat comes to stay on Friday. > >The Finicky Cat goes to stay with someone else tonight. > >Karen > > > GIFFs! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 02:38:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j427bLWm015319 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 02:37:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 02:38:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F38D38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 3:07:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:07:19 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4277HeY009818 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:07:18 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050209054113559 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 09:05:41 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 2 May 2005 09:07:23 +0200 Message-ID: <4275D1A9.5040909@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:07:21 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Dutch movie: Grimm References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050501161148.GG6634@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050501161148.GG6634@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2005 07:07:23.0338 (UTC) FILETIME=[96BD1AA0:01C54EE5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Steph, Have you seen the Dutch movie Grimm? We saw it last night. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 02:38:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j427bLWm015318 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 02:37:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 02:38:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F38D65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 3:17:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:17:29 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j427HTUr012746 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:17:29 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1644865wra for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 00:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.75 with SMTP id 75mr422426wrd; Mon, 02 May 2005 00:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 00:17:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Sbq0utN2ms471AHaaWKzg/h9MtW1BEvpw5XCw3nIdcTO0wY62vzfGmd620BD2CabH6AvEdZfQ7giNTjQxT0P+jYpNCSzTQgjyHAJwiLYTmSS9lWX5GXFK7h3WmRqE6pXSTVhmLJ0RLCfZXGN5HK2JHYJiLucMz3uOATdsqSboS0= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:17:29 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <4274D515.3000800@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429175146.GA32749@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427323AE.1010303@gmail.com> <4274D515.3000800@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j427bLWm015318 > > It is the international labour day today - at least in most countries. > Espen > Worker's Day is what the delightful Oslo couple told us last night. There was a cafe and a few stores open in Bodo. No demonstations. We have a film crew onboard the M.S. Midnatsol. Last night they put them overboard at midnight in the "man-overboard" vessel. They filmed the ship taking its bow into the Troll Fjord and then negotiating the narrow passage back into the Raftsund. It was exciting. Lots of us stayed up to watch. The water was very calm. The mountains have much snow. The ship could not go into the Troll Fjord because of fear of avalanche. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 03:28:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j428SeWm018306 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:28:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:28:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F38DAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 4:08:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:08:39 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4288cgQ029007 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:08:39 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4288cKg019940 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:08:38 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j4288bI1019938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:08:37 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:08:37 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dutch movie: Grimm Message-ID: <20050502080837.GA19929@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050501161148.GG6634@words-l.org> <4275D1A9.5040909@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4275D1A9.5040909@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 09:07:21AM +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: = Steph, = = Have you seen the Dutch movie Grimm? We saw it last night. = = Espen Nope. Never heard of it either. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 03:30:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j428UCWm018454 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:30:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:30:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060F4C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 4:24:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:24:58 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j428Ovvg001219 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:24:58 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050210232014472 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:23:20 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 2 May 2005 10:25:03 +0200 Message-ID: <4275E3DF.6040908@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:25:03 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dutch movie: Grimm References: <20050430152144.GA6846@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42741588.8060200@maynor.net> <4274CC85.7060103@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050501074818.02657bf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050501161148.GG6634@words-l.org> <4275D1A9.5040909@gmail.com> <20050502080837.GA19929@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050502080837.GA19929@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2005 08:25:04.0034 (UTC) FILETIME=[70BAE020:01C54EF0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph skrev 02.05.2005 10:08: >On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 09:07:21AM +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: >= Steph, >= >= Have you seen the Dutch movie Grimm? We saw it last night. >= >= Espen > >Nope. Never heard of it either. > > > Here is some info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365289/ Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 03:30:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j428UCWm018455 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:30:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:30:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060F4BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 4:22:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:22:27 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j428MQ49000405 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:22:26 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050210204914455 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:20:49 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 2 May 2005 10:22:32 +0200 Message-ID: <4275E347.1010108@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:22:31 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: what we did on Sunday References: <83db447a050502011046b6ce03@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050502011046b6ce03@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2005 08:22:32.0563 (UTC) FILETIME=[16723C30:01C54EF0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander skrev 02.05.2005 10:10: >On Sunday, we approached Bodø. On Sunday in Norway, everything closes down >save a few convenience stores and some restaurants. Most of the streets of >Bodø yesterday would have served as sets fro the last scene of On the Beach. > > Actually you hit one of the deadest days possible (after Christmas Day or Good Friday), not so much because it was a Sunday - this does in fact close down quite a lot in Norway - but because it was the International Workers' Day, and that is a sacred holiday in Norway. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 03:30:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j428UCWm018453 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:30:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:30:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060F5BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 4:10:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:10:11 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j428A8US029399 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:10:08 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1483029wri for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 01:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.33.32 with SMTP id g32mr463146wrg; Mon, 02 May 2005 01:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 01:10:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GQXf6nqMXd92dCU95/JEvexofofdHIOmOQpARP2HqEshPtoSeRvj1/P+S+RJbdoROuDPpC4EHB0HaSansyYOcGGEw0vX/95H6nwKG1PMIcmO2+fjVCMrwYWsUjpNJR2Y5d7a8jrFXWkyDjSB+31A13wOE6EMLRlKNRGu9HA7pus= Message-ID: <83db447a050502011046b6ce03@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:10:07 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: what we did on Sunday Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j428UCWm018453 On Sunday, we approached Bodø. On Sunday in Norway, everything closes down save a few convenience stores and some restaurants. Most of the streets of Bodø yesterday would have served as sets fro the last scene of On the Beach. We did find a shopping mall that was open, although all of the shops were closed. People were using it as a short-cut to wherever they were going---this included bicyclists. The ATM was doing a rousing business. We then stopped at a nearby restaurant (a cortado for Bonnie, a Guiness for me), which we enjoyed outside. Then back to the ship. The afternoon was spent crossing the Vestfjord; we did a little pitching as we rode small swells on our way to the Lofotens. I napped through most of it. Dinner was good (we learned later that the Midnatsol has the reputation of having the best food among the hurtigruten ships. Afterwards, we got coffee, I got a Maquakavit, and we reparired to the observation lounge. On our way into the Raftsundet, we became acquainted with a Norwegian couple (Bonnie's knitting turns out to be an effective conversation starter). So we chatted with them as we approached the Trollfjord. We couldn't go into the fjord (only aboutt 2 km long) because of the danger of avalanches, but the captain did nose in enough that we could see the head of the fjord and the threatening snowfields on three sides. They lowered a boat so that a video cameraman could take footage of the fjord and of our ship as it maneuvered in the rather tight quarters. By this time, it was past 2300, so I went to bed. Still lots of light then, and there was brilliant sunlight on the snow-covered mountains when I awoke about 0430. Brilliant sun again today as we make the stretch from Harstad to Tromsø. Bonnie is doing some laundry; we will explore Tromsø this afternoon. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 05:52:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42AqKWm003947 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 05:52:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 05:52:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060F5BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 6:52:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 173564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:52:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42AqJ4S014122 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:52:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1496443nzp for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr517161nzb; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:52:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=i1dMUsjvthVnh3dtmWtbrF4u/9zIfcCe0KyaOAg+m2wusJBGxQR9tcxppm3AylABzSlXJoUFcpd+wzx7fgLdFG2YRI0dF4wfsqvtgDLDI3X2lfUWEU6xGYyBK3jm8mLv4zpj5ejHAWiC1scn6+MQ0AIjt9UnkDl503HxzgK/Ffc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050203526b7f7ffd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 05:52:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It's official In-Reply-To: <4275D216.3000803@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050118533de81e90@mail.gmail.com> <4275D216.3000803@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j42AqKWm003947 On 5/2/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > A Friend of Andy skrev 02.05.2005 03:53: > > >The Perfect Cat comes to stay on Friday. > > > >The Finicky Cat goes to stay with someone else tonight. > > > >Karen > > > > > > > GIFFs! > I'll try. I was never able to take a satisfactory picture of Burl, so I don't know that I will be able to take one of the new one. It's actually pretty uninteresting-looking--just a pinky beige fluffball. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 06:24:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42BO5Wm007325 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:24:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 06:24:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060F71A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 7:24:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 07:24:04 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42BO4B8032409 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 07:24:04 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 89698035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:23:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42760DCF.80506@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 07:23:59 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles References: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> <427572B4.4070409@bc.edu> <42757BAD.3080706@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42757BAD.3080706@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Oh, dear. I had no idea you were into old sewing machines! I'm not > sure how short the money was -- I was about to mark it at $10, when one > of the other workers told me to mark it at $50 -- and that's what it > sold for. Aaaarrrrggggghhhhh!!!! It was probably a Singer Featherweight which, as they told you, is wonderful for quilters. I am told that, in good condition, they sell for about $300 - $400. That mother and daughter got a great deal. I have sewed for years and am now developing an interest in quilting. Finding a Featherweight with known provenance would have delighted me. Oh bother! On a different topic, when I arrived at work this morning, there was a car in my customary parking space. It is a gold Camaro with a Mississippi tag from Hinds County. Do you know anything about that? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 07:35:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42CZmWm014247 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 07:35:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:35:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F3902F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 8:35:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:35:48 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j42CZkpW023650 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:35:47 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050214341015969 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:34:10 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 2 May 2005 14:35:44 +0200 Message-ID: <42761EA1.1040705@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:35:45 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Privet Cam References: <200504291748.j3THmr5R011363@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200504291748.j3THmr5R011363@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2005 12:35:44.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[75AAD4F0:01C54F13] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This one was caught by gmail's spam filter. Espen Dan Lester skrev 29.04.2005 19:48: >I've seen webcams of all sorts of things, but never anyone's privet >hedge. Does MSU have one of privets? You do have an ag dept, don't >you? > >dan > > >This is a forwarded message >From: Sonia Quinn >To: dan@gailndan.com >Date: Friday, April 29, 2005, 12:16:41 PM >Subject: Privet Cam > >===8<==============Original message text=============== >I'm Julie. I finally got what I been dreaming about. my own site, W00t W00t! :D. I am fun, spontaneous and I love wearing red lingerer Hehe. That just came from nowhere. Anyways, I would love to chat with you. if you have a moment to spare, log in, in to my members area, its totally free and we can start chatting. Luv Julie >http://inhumane.skipgrand.info/ju2/ > >===8<===========End of original message text=========== > >-- >Dan Lester dan@gailndan.com > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 07:44:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42CiYWm015121 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 07:44:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:44:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F3909E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 8:44:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:44:33 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42CiXZG028831 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:44:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.25]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050502124433.HLTX2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:44:33 -0400 Message-ID: <427620AC.8090303@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 07:44:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429175146.GA32749@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427323AE.1010303@gmail.com> <4274D515.3000800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > We have a film crew onboard the M.S. Midnatsol. Last night they put them >overboard at midnight in the "man-overboard" vessel. They filmed the ship >taking its bow into the Troll Fjord and then negotiating the narrow passage > > Are y'all gonna be in the film? Does the film have a title yet? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 07:50:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42CnwWm015573 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 07:49:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:50:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F39084@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 8:49:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:58 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42CnwOX032349 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.25]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050502124958.HQFR2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:58 -0400 Message-ID: <427621F1.6090706@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 07:49:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles References: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> <427572B4.4070409@bc.edu> <42757BAD.3080706@maynor.net> <42760DCF.80506@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42760DCF.80506@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Finding a Featherweight with known provenance > would have delighted me. Oh bother! I wish I'd known! And unless sitting in attics and most recently in my garage causes deterioration, my guess is that it would be in good condition since it was never used as frequently as some sewing machines no doubt are. > On a different topic, when I arrived at work this morning, there was a > car in my customary parking space. It is a gold Camaro with a > Mississippi tag from Hinds County. Do you know anything about that? Hmm. I haven't read today's Clarion-Ledger yet. I'll see whether it has anything about a gold Camaro fleeing northeast. Is there a place on the web to check license numbers? Given the ease of things like checking phone numbers, you'd think there would be. If so, you can go get the tag number if the car's still there, and we can get to the bottom of this mystery. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 08:19:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42DJcWm018139 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:19:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:19:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060F756@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 9:19:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 179526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:19:38 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42DJc2D017837 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:19:38 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1702526wra for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 06:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.42 with SMTP id 42mr539936wrc; Mon, 02 May 2005 06:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.7 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:19:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H2AUnXmphD5b7+y7nhfY6kXQs4kV6W2+p6NhyDOYD7C5m9wxyn+Nek2gjkbXaEDiFkUWIHwJJm9NVxWC+Gena8dLAvM7mLsRR5FXAfYMsS6DCUZKfZaTuUHdbReqGuK9BVHr/ImOpQZfkvnucC3bKql6zdfw3TBYAm6SzK874FI= Message-ID: <44dce1c10505020619418822b7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:19:37 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050430204773c78e13@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j42DJc2D017841 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/1/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Mystery 1: > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/p14395721.html Since it is blooming now, I suspect this is pulmonaria or lungwort. Looks nice and healthy! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 08:27:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42DRgWm018725 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:27:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:27:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060F93A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 9:27:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 179957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:27:42 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42DRfRv022484 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:27:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1704608wra for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 06:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.5 with SMTP id w5mr543255wrc; Mon, 02 May 2005 06:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.7 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 06:27:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uEL+mGRS4JYP4+LZCQ8MxqcDQp3ITRSknMopwGzTF7QvAA3DwZPfAbXn49pqZynEO21/sAIKdrG4Z1XKnFkkDr7+OMFlA6pS6irM6+wD6yIi0ldUae3QJlrUfS/dDKX6moVHQqSgPAa44N10LheoFOGnrQLL38MgPpM2vVtgNMc= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050502062745a1cc64@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:27:41 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce's plants In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050430204773c78e13@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j42DRgRv022486 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Mystery 2: > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/p14395725.html > Marie > This looks like wild geranium or cranesbill. We have a lot on the roadside growing wild. They're really pretty. Usually a light pink-purple flower that will bloom in May, just before the roadside mowers show up. Enjoy! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 09:16:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42EGUWm024164 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:16:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 09:16:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060F977@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:06:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:06:30 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42E6TRi010777 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:06:30 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j42E6T7Q020821 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:06:29 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j42E3RLT017780 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:03:29 -0400 Message-ID: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:03:27 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just read that the below web is citing reports that he's dead. Also, that it goes on to say that he's still alive but could die soon, and that Muslims should prepare for his death. http://www.islam-minbar.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 09:41:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42EfbWm026626 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:41:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 09:41:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060FA84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:41:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:41:37 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42EfaY7029417 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:41:36 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18290531 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 07:43:05 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 2 May 2005 07:41:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:41:36 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1191505766.20050502084136@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: City Life In-Reply-To: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 185, in=75938, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/29/2005, 1:28 PM, Janet Hardy wrote: JH> Starbucks has a well-documented, nasty corporate habit of renting space JH> across the street from small independent coffee houses in order to drive JH> them out of business. While I'll use Starbucks when I'm on the road in Interesting. Not doubting it at all....just that haven't seen that happen in Boise. Perhaps because there was a thriving local chain here before Starbucks ever arrived, plus some small ones, most still in business. The local chain is going beyond Idaho now, I believe. It is Moxie Java. Each has its local adherents. Generally the environment in Starbucks is nicer. Prices are about the same, within a dime or so on most things, each cheaper on some. Basically, I don't like Moxie because their coffee is weak compared to Starbucks. Of course that is one reason many do like them. JH> places that don't have small independent coffee houses, I try to avoid them JH> when I'm in major cities. (Although I have a teeny little Chantico addiction JH> that occasionally gets the better of me.) Never tried a Chantico....sounds like I never should. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 09:42:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42EgqWm026759 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:42:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 09:42:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060F983@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:42:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:42:52 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42EgpUd030165 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:42:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18454099 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:10:18 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 2 May 2005 07:43:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:42:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <363436489.20050502084252@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catalan - thanks, Natalie! - April! In-Reply-To: <4272BAF6.8000008@maynor.net> References: <200504261933.j3QJX1K6032731@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70504261237294dcac4@mail.gmail.com> <426ECA26.50405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705042620141a3e3d9f@mail.gmail.com> <426F7C90.1080301@maynor.net> <18310335440.20050427140535@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042713306b8f67bc@mail.gmail.com> <1343773386.20050427151942@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705042714273c0e285b@mail.gmail.com> <712692552.20050427153005@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050427144820f41176@mail.gmail.com> <997515594.20050428072348@gailndan.com> <42719920.2090108@maynor.net> <986944677.20050429091801@gailndan.com> <4272BAF6.8000008@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 181, in=64852, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/29/2005, 4:53 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I would hope that there seemed to be since that was it's direct NM> statement. I really would like to know what he's doing and where. But NM> I have no interest in getting in touch with him. Well, at least I answered the "where", it appears, and others who wanted to confirm that could easily do so. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 09:49:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42EnfWm027738 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:49:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 09:49:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F39445@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:49:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 186405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:49:41 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42Ene8I002142 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:49:41 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18151785 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:05:12 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 2 May 2005 07:50:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:41 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <155877850.20050502084941@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Are you a Republican? In-Reply-To: <20050430052229.GA30018@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70504281442792bf581@mail.gmail.com> <122846494.20050429091540@gailndan.com> <20050430052229.GA30018@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 185, in=63248, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/29/2005, 11:22 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> *scary music* ... little do they know you don't give a flying fuck! Right on, Bro! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 10:00:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42F0QWm028891 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:00:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:00:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060F9D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:50:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 186472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:50:25 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42EoPNj002609 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:50:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18455043 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:17:52 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 2 May 2005 07:50:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:50:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <474947325.20050502085024@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Are you a Republican? In-Reply-To: <20050430052407.GB30018@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181241.026aeb50@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429023938.GC28351@words-l.org> <1331891377.20050429092420@gailndan.com> <20050430052407.GB30018@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 181, in=64863, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 4/29/2005, 11:24 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> Shyeuh ... I know THAT ... but there is a special, horrible level DMH> of cute that's specifically for NPR listeners Right on, Bro! Damn, two things we agree completely on...and in consecutive messages. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 10:01:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42F0QWm028892 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:00:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:01:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060FBBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:55:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 187053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:55:29 -0400 Received: from mxfep03.bredband.com (mxfep03.bredband.com [195.54.107.76]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42EtQfQ006339 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:55:27 -0400 Received: from mxfep03 ([195.54.107.76] [195.54.107.76]) by mxfep03.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050502145523.USNK19483.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03>; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:55:23 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: , , , , , , , Subject: Bangkok, day 1 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:55:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050502145523.USNK19483.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As most of you know, I'm on the road with my co-husband, Dan. He has business contacts in Taiwan and has to visit regularly. This time I got to follow along. I am also his personal secretary, after all! We spent the weekend in Bangkok first. His business associate on this project, Lars (made-up name 'cause I have some rude things to say about him) is also along on this trip. The trip was uneventful and even though that is boring, I enjoy saying that. I do not like to deal with late flights, lost luggage or fellow passengers who are rude or annoying. Thai Air has a great white wine on board, not at all like the normal paint thinner served by most airlines. So I was a happy camper when we landed. When we arrived in Bangkok, we had to wait for about an hour to get our room because we got there early in the morning and the hotel was full. We went for a little walk to experience an early Saturday morning in Bangkok. Hot and smelly, to sum it up. Beyond tired, we went to our room. Dan and I noticed that the air conditioning was dripping A LOT but we were so tired, he put an ashtray under the drop and decided to do something about it later. Just as we were dozing off, there was a knock at the door. We ignored it. Knock again. Shit, forgot the "Do not disturb" sign. Then the phone rings. It is housekeeping and they want to fix the air conditioner. Grrrrrrr....It took max 10 minutes but it felt like forever. It is now almost 10 am and I've been up for far too many hours. We didn't get up until 2pm. I have a confession to make. I am a terrible tourist, borderlining on the world's worst. I'm not interested in sightseeing AT ALL. I'm difficult to impress and other tourists make me want to run away screaming. If someone says, "You can't miss X because it's something you have to see," I'll miss it if I'm not interested because there is nothing in this world I have to see. So we had no plans except one thing - I wanted to get some clothes made because it is supposed to be inexpensive and good quality workmanship. During our morning walk, we noticed that every third store was a tailor's, at least in this neighborhood. We just walked into the first one that could promise us clothes in 24 hours because that is pretty much what we had left. Dan actually got two suits made for himself. He needed them and now he looks spiffy! I got a suit made for me as well and some silk tank tops. I was all prepared to bargain but when the man said what it would cost, I just didn't have the heart. It cost half of what it would to buy off the rack in Sweden and those clothes never fit me anyway (my butt is too big). I now have a secret longing to have a whole wardrobe made in Bangkok! As for Dan's friend, he is the kind of person that gets on my nerves in 5 seconds - tops. Lars is naturally lazy and takes no initiative whatsoever. I don't have time for such behavior. We were going to meet up and eat together but to make a long story short, he pissed me off and Dan and I ended up picking some snacks up at 7-11 (we were absolutely starving) and then eating at one of the restaurants in our hotel that was supposed to be vegetarian friendly. A bit of an overstatement but we had some really good food there. Hmmm....it is now evening and neither of us feels like doing much. Another walk around the area, watching where we step. The sidewalks in Bangkok are very uneven and have potholes you could really hurt yourself in. We ran into Lars outside of the hotel, talking to a woman. I suspect he was paying for her, er..ahem...conversation but I don't know for sure and I sure as hell wasn't going to ask! We ended up in the bar at the hotel. There was something depressing about the scene. There was a thai in the lounge, crooning, "The Green, Green Grass of Home" and we heard "Desperado" coming from another place. It was so touristy and weird somehow. I feel like I'm in a strange dream in such situations. As we left the bar, after imbibing several Thai beers and eating Thai snacks, I saw a Westerner who was also paying for "conversation." I called him a pig as we walked by but the music (fortunately) drowned me out. Reflections from the first day: Seatbelts are very optional here. In other words, there weren't any. In the city it doesn't matter because traffic doesn't move much. On the highway, I just didn't look at the speedometer! The sex tourism in Thailand is just disgusting. There was a free guide to Bangkok available at the hotel. It consisted of a worthless map and 30 pages of ads for tailors and escort services. Normally, I'm quite tolerant when it comes to the sex trade but it bothers me that Western men go to Thailand just to get laid. Why can't they do it at home? Do they respect Western women more or are they embarrassed or what? I'm actually really curious to know. Tomorrow: picking up the clothes at the tailor, a visit to the weekend market and the breakfast I ate... Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 10:09:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42F9iWm030047 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:09:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:09:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F39551@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:09:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 188839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:09:37 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42F9YR0018949 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:09:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18154539 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:25:06 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 2 May 2005 08:09:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:09:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? In-Reply-To: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 185, in=63263, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, considering the number of previous reports that he was dead of one affliction or another, is there any reason to give this one particular credence? Did you read the Arabic yourself, or someone just told you what it said? 5/2/2005, 8:03 AM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> I just read that the below web is citing reports that he's dead. Also, that AW> it goes on to say that he's still alive but could die soon, and that Muslims AW> should prepare for his death. AW> http://www.islam-minbar.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 10:17:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42FGtWm030697 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:16:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:17:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060FADC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:16:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 189929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:16:55 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42FGsWA024436 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:16:55 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18155545 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:32:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 2 May 2005 08:17:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:16:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1869997411.20050502091656@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bangkok, day 1 In-Reply-To: <20050502145523.USNK19483.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> References: <20050502145523.USNK19483.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 185, in=63267, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/2/2005, 8:55 AM, Marcia Franzen wrote: MF> The sex tourism in Thailand is just disgusting. There was a free guide MF> to Bangkok available at the hotel. It consisted of a worthless map MF> and 30 pages of ads for tailors and escort services. Normally, I'm MF> quite tolerant when it comes to the sex trade but it bothers me that MF> Western men go to Thailand just to get laid. Why can't they do it MF> at home? Do they respect Western women more or are they embarrassed or MF> what? I'm actually really curious to know. I've never paid for sex....other than the usual dinner and movie, if that counts....but... Why shouldn't they go there? They can go to Netherlands to buy drugs, to Nevada for legal brothels, to other countries for legal brothels, so why not there? I've been told that one reason is that the women in "the business" in Thailand are often well under 18, maybe even 10 or 12, which does appeal to some particular perverts. Purportedly if you are willing to pay enough you can get a genuine virgin, legally. I have no interest in such, but if it gets some pervert to not molest the kids down the street, maybe it is a good thing. NOT suggesting it is good for the Thai girls, though. I don't think they respect Western women more....just that their interests and desires aren't as readily available in many Western countries. Don't know about embarrassed, just that they don't want to risk some serious jail time. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 10:17:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42FHCWm030754 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:17:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:17:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060FC99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:17:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 189962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:17:12 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42FHBav024702 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:17:12 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1737257wra for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.81.12 with SMTP id e12mr608596wrb; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:17:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AWsreOM/zryQGvYNiXmlOz9NiSBhiv/Ak5CwkRVmZ+RP1RCxAl+3nnTeCfxhlH9ZKwa3lfHgisb9JRSdgs2xC4UAGWFKTUIvLsWiRBOBfdsGZ23BsPnfjPYLFsQhjf6hxofJQWNjEIb4au4nTFgAqUdv2MtLPiyUAbrigBjYWuU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:17:11 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles In-Reply-To: <427621F1.6090706@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> <427572B4.4070409@bc.edu> <42757BAD.3080706@maynor.net> <42760DCF.80506@bc.edu> <427621F1.6090706@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j42FHCWm030754 It is a gold Camaro with a > > Mississippi tag from Hinds County. Do you know anything about that? > > Hmm. I haven't read today's Clarion-Ledger yet. I'll see whether it > has anything about a gold Camaro fleeing northeast. -- Natalie And are you sure, Natalie, that you are in Mississippi and not in Tromso, Norway? Both Clyde and I just did a double-take on the street because someone looked exactly like you, dressed like you, cut her hair like you, and even had your expression on her face. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 10:18:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42FI3Wm030879 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:18:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060FC9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:18:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:18:02 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42FI2lE025184 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:18:02 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:18:02 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:17:54 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Osama's followers are doing their best to create him as a mythical figure. I wouldn't be surprised if the rumors of his death are part of the plot to surround him with mystery. Is he dead or is he mything? BrP >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 5/2/2005 11:09:35 AM >>> Well, considering the number of previous reports that he was dead of one affliction or another, is there any reason to give this one particular credence? Did you read the Arabic yourself, or someone just told you what it said? 5/2/2005, 8:03 AM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> I just read that the below web is citing reports that he's dead. Also, that AW> it goes on to say that he's still alive but could die soon, and that Muslims AW> should prepare for his death. AW> http://www.islam-minbar.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 10:19:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42FJFWm030924 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:19:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:19:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060FAEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:19:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:19:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42FJERf026207 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:19:15 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1737927wra for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.48 with SMTP id 48mr597844wrc; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:19:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ShepMhDFplRHhXwL798y7aKjLXOUsArmzqErcybGkZdA8UhZiKLJtq2TReO4gPtIJ3F/aLCtvu0cqRUZnWWYbmhjQd7EAmBkb6G0S4NPG5IjpMrexqM66YjTw2mHlqKtt8hfeZHcg/zCKzLA4AwR4CPX+wSbzT2c066tEkRCaxg= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:19:14 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <427620AC.8090303@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429175146.GA32749@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427323AE.1010303@gmail.com> <4274D515.3000800@gmail.com> <427620AC.8090303@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j42FJFWm030924 > > > We have a film crew onboard the M.S. Midnatsol. Last night they put them > >overboard at midnight in the "man-overboard" vessel. They filmed the ship > >taking its bow into the Troll Fjord and then negotiating the narrow > passage > > Are y'all gonna be in the film? Does the film have a title yet? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Maybe. the camera was pointed right at me at dinner last night. It is documentary about a year in the life of a coastal voyage ship. Mostly it is about the crew and staff. It will be released sometime next fall, I think. Espen will have to keep an eye out. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 10:22:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42FM1Wm031223 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:22:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:22:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F3963D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:22:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:22:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42FLxX7028487 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:21:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1564044nzp for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.20 with SMTP id o20mr547669nzo; Mon, 02 May 2005 08:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 08:21:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=uWFoFtmANATCEMMKHIm0k8D2FM4xceHA5byQGhXCNiZHktC4d5DLBgykj7nLb0LKg9EOnqk4zwMm7PyJTtcZ5n0IYFej6no0o2Jw2Hl29XZTABZnwcAfT4PoGAyNF8eeHOT9cu+SBeq/pVW2knu/MDfnR7j0HHn290qgeVwl+Fw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050208211fd0b04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:21:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j42FM1Wm031223 On 5/2/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Is he dead or is he mything? > Dang! You really did spend the weekend with the boys, didn't you! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 10:25:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42FPhWm031541 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:25:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:25:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060FCEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:25:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:25:42 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j42FPfrv031533 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:25:42 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050217240317357 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 17:24:03 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 2 May 2005 17:25:40 +0200 Message-ID: <42764673.8020305@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:25:39 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <4271A574.9020709@maynor.net> <20050429072402.GA29493@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427215F5.7090908@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050429091140.00b98188@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429175146.GA32749@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427323AE.1010303@gmail.com> <4274D515.3000800@gmail.com> <427620AC.8090303@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2005 15:25:40.0234 (UTC) FILETIME=[32AD66A0:01C54F2B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev skrev 02.05.2005 17:19: >>>We have a film crew onboard the M.S. Midnatsol. Last night they put them >>>overboard at midnight in the "man-overboard" vessel. They filmed the ship >>>taking its bow into the Troll Fjord and then negotiating the narrow >>> >>> >>passage >> >>Are y'all gonna be in the film? Does the film have a title yet? >>-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> >> > > >Maybe. the camera was pointed right at me at dinner last night. It is >documentary about a year in the life of a coastal voyage ship. Mostly it is >about the crew and staff. It will be released sometime next fall, I think. >Espen will have to keep an eye out. > > > > The new Words-l movie - in PAL. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 10:45:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42Fj4Wm000972 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:45:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:45:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060FCB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:45:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 192623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:45:03 -0400 Received: from mxfep03.bredband.com (mxfep03.bredband.com [195.54.107.76]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42FixE6013250 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:45:03 -0400 Received: from mxfep03 ([195.54.107.76] [195.54.107.76]) by mxfep03.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050502154459.KSX7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 17:44:59 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bangkok, day 1 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:44:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050502154459.KSX7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Why shouldn't they go there? They can go to Netherlands to buy drugs, > to Nevada for legal brothels, to other countries for legal brothels, > so why not there? I've been told that one reason is that the women in > "the business" in Thailand are often well under 18, maybe even 10 or > 12, which does appeal to some particular perverts. Purportedly if you > are willing to pay enough you can get a genuine virgin, legally. I > have no interest in such, but if it gets some pervert to not molest > the kids down the street, maybe it is a good thing. NOT suggesting it > is good for the Thai girls, though. So fucking 10 year old Thai girls isn't molestation? > I don't think they respect Western women more....just that their > interests and desires aren't as readily available in many Western > countries. Don't know about embarrassed, just that they don't want to > risk some serious jail time. > > dan Why aren't their interests and desires aren't readily available? I got the impression they were. But I don't claim to know much about those things. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 11:11:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42GBLWm003861 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:11:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:11:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060FD4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:05:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 194633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:05:56 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42G5uVo024423 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:05:56 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 95740263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:06:00 -0400 Message-ID: <42764FE1.4060704@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:05:53 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles References: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> <427572B4.4070409@bc.edu> <42757BAD.3080706@maynor.net> <42760DCF.80506@bc.edu> <427621F1.6090706@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <427621F1.6090706@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Is there a place on > the web to check license numbers? Given the ease of things like > checking phone numbers, you'd think there would be. If so, you can go > get the tag number if the car's still there, and we can get to the > bottom of this mystery. > If you are so inclined, you can chase down 093-HCH. I might have a few minutes for fun later today myself. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 11:11:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42GBLWm003860 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:11:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:11:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0060FDE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:01:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 194187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:01:18 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42G1HEk022165 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:01:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18465573 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 09:28:45 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 2 May 2005 09:01:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:01:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1393312357.20050502100117@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Bangkok, day 1 In-Reply-To: <20050502154459.KSX7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> References: <20050502154459.KSX7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.322000 Adult word fucking=0.7,Adult word fuck=0.7 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 181, in=64915, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/2/2005, 9:44 AM, Marcia Franzen wrote: MF> I've been told that one reason is that the women in >> "the business" in Thailand are often well under 18, maybe even 10 or >> 12, which does appeal to some particular perverts. Purportedly if you >> are willing to pay enough you can get a genuine virgin, legally. I >> have no interest in such, but if it gets some pervert to not molest >> the kids down the street, maybe it is a good thing. NOT suggesting it >> is good for the Thai girls, though. MF> So fucking 10 year old Thai girls isn't molestation? Well, it is in MY book. Note that I said I didn't think it was a good thing. But if it is indeed legal in Thailand, THAT'S why the sick fuckers go there to do it. They won't get their asses tossed in jail. >> I don't think they respect Western women more....just that their >> interests and desires aren't as readily available in many Western >> countries. Don't know about embarrassed, just that they don't want to >> risk some serious jail time. >> >> dan MF> Why aren't their interests and desires aren't readily available? I got MF> the impression they were. But I don't claim to know much about those MF> things. Well, there may indeed by places that some pervert can fuck twelve year old girls in the US for someone who has enough bucks....but they're still risking some serious jail time if they're caught. As to WHY they're not available, well, it is because that is what current US values say shouldn't be permitted. We forget very quickly that a hundred years ago it wasn't uncommon for a girl of fourteen to marry. A few years ago when I last checked such things for a student at the reference desk, there were still a state or two where a girl could marry at 12 with parents' permission. But times change....we've become more conservative on lots of things, including booze. Can't buy a drink anywhere any more if you're under 21. BAC level for DUI in many states has dropped from .10 to .08. But as to where some pervert can find "young girls" to fuck in the US, I have no clue....nor do I want one. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 11:16:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42GFuWm004569 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:15:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:16:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060FD93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:15:56 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42GFutm028081 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:15:56 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j42GFq7a026579 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:15:55 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j42GEoLT018596 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:14:51 -0400 Message-ID: <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 12:14:49 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" > Well, considering the number of previous reports that he was dead of > one affliction or another, is there any reason to give this one > particular credence? > > Did you read the Arabic yourself, or someone just told you what it > said? I read an English report about it... 'Alan > 5/2/2005, 8:03 AM, Alan Wild wrote: > > AW> I just read that the below web is citing reports that he's dead. > Also, that > AW> it goes on to say that he's still alive but could die soon, and that > Muslims > AW> should prepare for his death. > > AW> http://www.islam-minbar.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 11:31:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42GVfWm006665 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:31:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:31:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F3991E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:31:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:31:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42GVex0032641 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:31:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1585695nzp for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 09:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr558793nzb; Mon, 02 May 2005 09:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 09:31:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=r46eAJspSBOAw+5gjExNTdz0PV1VtluY2Lt+ump9KgrklyrxdVpfjfkXeQSa3JkTZe3IXxOsDNFpub+Mpl/e69ug/XL32F6c54LkkAGJXoPtAilsagHpMa/i1lIrwXKpx9dyexukFm1ylctwuLUTZJTmFmTOOWwn+5QQW0v6rHE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:31:40 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? In-Reply-To: <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j42GVfWm006665 On 5/2/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Lester" > > Well, considering the number of previous reports that he was dead of > > one affliction or another, is there any reason to give this one > > particular credence? > > > > Did you read the Arabic yourself, or someone just told you what it > > said? > > I read an English report about it... I find it utterly fascinating that you would refer us to the Arabic webpage rather than citing the English report. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 11:58:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42GwVWm009749 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:58:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:58:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0060FDA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:18:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:18:30 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42GIS7u029022 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:18:29 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j42GIScv015938 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:18:28 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505021618.j42GIScv015938@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bangkok, day 1 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 02 May 2005 10:01:17 MDT." <1393312357.20050502100117@gailndan.com> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:18:28 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan says: >Well, it is in MY book. Note that I said I didn't think it was a good >thing. But if it is indeed legal in Thailand, THAT'S why the sick >fuckers go there to do it. They won't get their asses tossed in jail. It's not legal in Thailand. "The age of consent for sex in Thailand is 15 and for those working in the sex industry or soliciting sex, it is 18." Depending on the circumstances, sex tourists in Thailand may well encounter long prison sentences. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 12:24:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42HO9Wm012621 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:24:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:24:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0060FDE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:24:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:24:09 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42HO90k012943 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:24:09 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j42HO67U029425 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:24:08 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j42HL1LT018238 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:21:02 -0400 Message-ID: <0bd401c54f3b$50b10390$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:21:00 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" > I find it utterly fascinating that you would refer us to the Arabic > webpage > rather than citing the English report. > > Karen Of course you would; to you, information is large smelly laundry. That web is a jihadist web, and the report is proprietary. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 12:40:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42HeWWm014151 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:40:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:40:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F39B1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:40:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:40:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42HeVO8017007 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:40:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1606550nzp for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.31.19 with SMTP id e19mr11718nze; Mon, 02 May 2005 10:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:40:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=up4IgtfiIIKNdVpjWLg5OtFvSDcjK5g7g3hcHXgRORqw2LgYtzSJIb8DSvT5anq52U7CBVRBED8LQiJxRUxWRUBLih01hlekPNr+n50SiDCZjIWtOROG8KRiwD+OTaJEJ5Y14lEmS3VD7wkpfTU92fD7yObqkCyR6/wMk7LcC4g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050502104045ef5a42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 12:40:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? In-Reply-To: <0bd401c54f3b$50b10390$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> <0bd401c54f3b$50b10390$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j42HeWWm014151 On 5/2/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > > I find it utterly fascinating that you would refer us to the Arabic > > webpage > > rather than citing the English report. > > > > Karen > > Of course you would; to you, information is large smelly laundry. No, information is pearls beyond price--or before swine. That web > is a jihadist web, and the report is proprietary. > Oh, a sekrit website. Cool. Well, that makes it all the more reliable, then. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 13:18:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42IIqWm017777 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:18:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:18:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F39CFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:18:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:18:51 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j42I8ouk023468 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:08:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 73684 invoked by uid 1003); 2 May 2005 18:08:49 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:08:49 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you a Republican? Message-ID: <20050502180849.GA72589@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050428181241.026aeb50@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050429023938.GC28351@words-l.org> <1331891377.20050429092420@gailndan.com> <20050430052407.GB30018@words-l.org> <474947325.20050502085024@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <474947325.20050502085024@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 08:50:24AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 4/29/2005, 11:24 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > DMH> Shyeuh ... I know THAT ... but there is a special, horrible level > DMH> of cute that's specifically for NPR listeners > > Right on, Bro! > > Damn, two things we agree completely on...and in consecutive messages. Gold star! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 13:22:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42IMsWm018128 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:22:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:22:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061007F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:22:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:22:54 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j42ICrx4024152 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:12:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 75607 invoked by uid 1003); 2 May 2005 18:12:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:12:53 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Message-ID: <20050502181253.GB72589@words-l.org> References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> <0bd401c54f3b$50b10390$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0bd401c54f3b$50b10390$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 01:21:00PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > >I find it utterly fascinating that you would refer us to the Arabic > >webpage > >rather than citing the English report. > > > >Karen > > Of course you would; to you, information is large smelly laundry. That web > is a jihadist web, and the report is proprietary. These reformed ballers talk weird man ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 13:38:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42IcEWm019337 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:38:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:38:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006100E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:38:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:38:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42IcDS8000305 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:38:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1623798nzp for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr576969nzb; Mon, 02 May 2005 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=toSCYfEojA90EI0Wh9RK46wSyEMaP8D9iRhO8ZVzerdviuOxhXVGc7/4zAdzW6bGEu/HvUXa+R3cx8n4IVb16+AjcL7XFLjSVreLAVbOfvayglYiStByrIEHEqMeQnpGKn9e8PlPrC8nVN48w97FfB3FmtCz7bdyL/DijOKqyFg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050211384dae3219@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:38:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? In-Reply-To: <20050502181253.GB72589@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> <0bd401c54f3b$50b10390$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <20050502181253.GB72589@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j42IcEWm019337 On 5/2/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 01:21:00PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A Friend of Andy" > > >I find it utterly fascinating that you would refer us to the Arabic > > >webpage > > >rather than citing the English report. > > > > > >Karen > > > > Of course you would; to you, information is large smelly laundry. That > web > > is a jihadist web, and the report is proprietary. > > These reformed ballers talk weird man ... > Ayup. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 13:55:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42IsnWm021208 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 13:55:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 13:55:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00610166@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:54:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:54:48 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42IslE4005672 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:54:47 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j42IskjC023274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:54:46 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j42Isj9r023272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:54:45 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 20:54:45 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Message-ID: <20050502185445.GA23110@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a705050208211fd0b04@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050208211fd0b04@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:21:59AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = On 5/2/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: = > = > Is he dead or is he mything? = > = = Dang! You really did spend the weekend with the boys, didn't you! = I was like all, how did a weekend with the boys make him tell bad puns - but then I got it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 14:09:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42J9UWm022662 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:09:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:09:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006100A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:09:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 214350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:09:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42J9TLA008427 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:09:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1633160nzp for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.20 with SMTP id t20mr582220nzt; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:09:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Hxth7dzpFI/cjUqB3ySHxLKgzyNEyh9uqYYgnPMF8wEpB0tQqu6xuEmYYsNXYCKHTNT4TYYIUcH6zICeeaIC4sVTbGmT5Ye+Mwxt/xQup60XbUpDh1+y+JQUet0VWHJqZv9hgTwoRu20EAyCybw2EDZXIgbkqM7LPv4pxlO/eUw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050502120913ebb406@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:09:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? In-Reply-To: <20050502185445.GA23110@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050208211fd0b04@mail.gmail.com> <20050502185445.GA23110@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j42J9UWm022662 On 5/2/05, steph wrote: > > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:21:59AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = On 5/2/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > = > > = > Is he dead or is he mything? > = > > = > = Dang! You really did spend the weekend with the boys, didn't you! > = > > I was like all, how did a weekend with the boys make him tell bad puns - Oh, he would be making bad puns on his deathbed. but then I got it. > Good. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 14:17:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42JHUWm023577 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:17:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:17:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061029E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:17:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:17:29 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42JHThB011603 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:17:29 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 May 2005 15:17:29 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 15:17:23 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yup - right before the lightning strikes I expect to make a bad enough pun that all the witnesses will be moved to exclaim "It's about time!" BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/2/2005 3:09:28 PM >>> Oh, he would be making bad puns on his deathbed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 14:44:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42JiKWm026381 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 14:44:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:44:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00610389@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:44:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 220845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:44:19 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42JiJ3N018525 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 15:44:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18192687 for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:59:53 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 2 May 2005 12:44:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:44:20 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1682519416.20050502134420@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Bangkok, day 1 In-Reply-To: <200505021618.j42GIScv015938@sm.luth.se> References: Your message of "Mon, 02 May 2005 10:01:17 MDT." <1393312357.20050502100117@gailndan.com> <200505021618.j42GIScv015938@sm.luth.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 185, in=63526, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Glad to hear it is NOT legal. Thanks for the info. Of course I'm sure that in Thailand, just as in the rest of the world, someone with enough bucks can always find just about anything s/he wants. 5/2/2005, 10:18 AM, Torkel Franzen wrote: TF> Dan says: >>Well, it is in MY book. Note that I said I didn't think it was a good >>thing. But if it is indeed legal in Thailand, THAT'S why the sick >>fuckers go there to do it. They won't get their asses tossed in jail. TF> It's not legal in Thailand. "The age of consent for sex in Thailand is TF> 15 and for those working in the sex industry or soliciting sex, it is TF> 18." Depending on the circumstances, sex tourists in Thailand may well TF> encounter long prison sentences. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 18:18:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42NI3Wm020445 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:18:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006109AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:08:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:08:02 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j42Mw12h031047 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:58:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 38094 invoked by uid 1003); 2 May 2005 22:58:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:58:00 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bangkok, day 1 Message-ID: <20050502225800.GA33546@words-l.org> References: <1393312357.20050502100117@gailndan.com> <200505021618.j42GIScv015938@sm.luth.se> <1682519416.20050502134420@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1682519416.20050502134420@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You seem to be acting like you don't know one central theme ... In some documentary I saw, one frat boy type who was visiting Thailand summed it up pretty well: "American girls are bitches". When the "bitches" are foreign, much of the basis for misogyny disappears. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 18:27:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42NRQWm021434 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:27:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F3ADFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:27:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:27:25 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42NROw2002743 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:27:24 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B94BE8C1 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 16:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20050502145523.USNK19483.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:27:10 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Bangkok, day 1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:55 AM -0700 5/2/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: >and 30 pages of ads for tailors and escort services. Normally, I'm >quite tolerant when it comes to the sex trade but it bothers me that >Western men go to Thailand just to get laid. Why can't they do it >at home? Do they respect Western women more or are they embarrassed or >what? I'm actually really curious to know. They go there for exactly the same reason you wanted to get clothes made there: top-quality service at bargain-basement prices. Ken Miller Joe Conforte School of Business From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 18:28:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42NS2Wm021543 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:28:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:28:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061091D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:28:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:28:01 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42NS1G8002863 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:28:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.130]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050502232801.NATB2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:28:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4276B77B.5000408@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:27:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1191505766.20050502084136@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1191505766.20050502084136@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >JH> Starbucks has a well-documented, nasty corporate habit of renting space >JH> across the street from small independent coffee houses in order to drive >JH> them out of business. While I'll use Starbucks when I'm on the road in > >Interesting. Not doubting it at all....just that haven't seen that >happen in Boise. Perhaps because there was a thriving local chain >here before Starbucks ever arrived, plus some small ones, most still > > This reminds me that since our discussion of Starbucks last week I seem to see them everywhere, whether stand-alone or in bookstores like B&N. In putting up a few posters for our rummage sale, I noted that Cups seems to be a very popular coffee place here (as in crowded). Is it a national chain? Not being a coffee connoisseur, I have no opinion on the quality (also I've never consumed coffee in these various places, meaning I have even less of an opinion). I've thought about buying some of the Fair Trade Coffee that our church sells since it is supposedly A Good Thing -- as in it helps small farmers. But it costs about five times what my ordinary coffee costs. And all coffee tastes about the same to me. I think I'd rather just contribute directly to these small farmers and keep buying cheap coffee. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 18:43:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42NhMWm023318 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:43:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:43:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00610A91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:43:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:43:21 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42NhLFI004648 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:43:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.130]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050502234321.GGBV2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:43:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4276BB13.3060906@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:43:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bangkok, day 1 References: <20050502145523.USNK19483.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> In-Reply-To: <20050502145523.USNK19483.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >Seatbelts are very optional here. In other words, there weren't any. >In the city it doesn't matter because traffic doesn't move much. On >the highway, I just didn't look at the speedometer! > > Ah, but if you get the right tuk-tuk driver, you will move rapidly through Bangkok traffic -- lurching up onto sidewalks and almost killing a hundred people, then diving back down onto the street, risking tossing you to your death, etc. I like the little red trucks with boards in the back better than tuk-tuks, though the tuk-tuks do get you there somewhat quickly, gagging from the fumes of the city traffic. (I have never been into worry about the way some people are. But I have to admit that one day in a Bangkok tuk-tuk, I feared that I was going to expire right then and there from the amazing air pollution.) Suddenly I'm trying to remember whether the little red trucks are also in Bangkok. My experience with them was in Chiang Mai. I *think* they're also in Bangkok but can't remember for sure. > Normally, I'm >quite tolerant when it comes to the sex trade but it bothers me that >Western men go to Thailand just to get laid. Why can't they do it >at home? Do they respect Western women more or are they embarrassed or >what? I'm actually really curious to know. > > They're less likely to get ? I have a feeling that one person I know who spends lots of time in Thailand does so because he is a not-out-of-the-closet gay and feels freer there than here. He may be too scared of AIDS to actually do much there, but I can imagine him enjoying massages from young Thai men. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 18:51:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42NpUWm024114 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:51:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:51:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00610AD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:51:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:51:30 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42NpT5Z005808 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:51:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.130]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050502235129.GMGN2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:51:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4276BCFC.2040307@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:51:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles References: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> <427572B4.4070409@bc.edu> <42757BAD.3080706@maynor.net> <42760DCF.80506@bc.edu> <427621F1.6090706@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > And are you sure, Natalie, that you are in Mississippi and not in Tromso, >Norway? Both Clyde and I just did a double-take on the street because >someone looked exactly like you, dressed like you, cut her hair like you, >and even had your expression on her face. > > Hmm. Things have been feeling kind of wafty lately. It may be that I was there earlier today and just thought I was here. But if so, who decided to transplant the jonquils and put petunias where the jonquil stems were? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 18:52:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42NqfWm024307 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:52:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:52:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006109D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:52:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:52:40 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42Nqdb0005973 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:52:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.130]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050502235239.GMZF2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:52:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4276BD42.8040304@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:52:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Osama's followers are doing their best to create him as a mythical >figure. I wouldn't be surprised if the rumors of his death are part of >the plot to surround him with mystery. > > Are there caves and moved rocks and missing body involved? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 18:56:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j42Nu1Wm024625 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 18:56:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 18:56:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006109EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:56:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:56:01 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j42Nu0wk006534 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:56:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.130]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050502235600.GPKY2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:56:00 -0400 Message-ID: <4276BE0B.6020700@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:55:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles References: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> <427572B4.4070409@bc.edu> <42757BAD.3080706@maynor.net> <42760DCF.80506@bc.edu> <427621F1.6090706@maynor.net> <42764FE1.4060704@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42764FE1.4060704@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >> get the tag number if the car's still there, and we can get to the >> bottom of this mystery. > > If you are so inclined, you can chase down 093-HCH. I might have a > few minutes for fun later today myself. Fun! Some of you were talking recently about the glory of google. Can we identify this Hinds County, MS, interloper at BC by his/her tag number? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 19:11:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j430BiWm026343 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:11:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 19:11:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00610BBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:01:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:01:44 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4301hfW007543 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:01:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.130]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050503000143.GTEB2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:01:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4276BF62.7010200@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:01:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: May Poles References: <000901c54ea7$043dc870$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42756F9B.5060406@maynor.net> <427572B4.4070409@bc.edu> <42757BAD.3080706@maynor.net> <42760DCF.80506@bc.edu> <427621F1.6090706@maynor.net> <42764FE1.4060704@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42764FE1.4060704@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > If you are so inclined, you can chase down 093-HCH. 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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 21:17:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j432HeWm006425 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 21:17:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 21:17:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F3B49A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:17:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 261251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:17:40 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j432Hd9R006214 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:17:39 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF19DBE8C3 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 19:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0bd401c54f3b$50b10390$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 19:17:25 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:21 AM -0700 5/2/05, Alan Wild wrote: >Of course you would; to you, information is large smelly laundry. That web >is a jihadist web, and the report is proprietary. In other words, the reporter doesn't think that his report would stand up under the public scrutiny that it would get by being linked to from, say, the Drudge Report. Ken Miller Jeff Gannon School of Journalism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 21:37:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j432bTWm007882 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 21:37:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 21:37:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00610FB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:37:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:37:28 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j432bRh5012765 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:37:27 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j432bQ7S013289 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:37:26 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j432asLT032583 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:36:59 -0400 Message-ID: <009101c54f88$fdee8120$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 22:36:58 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bookrat" > At 10:21 AM -0700 5/2/05, Alan Wild wrote: >>Of course you would; to you, information is large smelly laundry. That >>web >>is a jihadist web, and the report is proprietary. > > In other words, the reporter doesn't think that his report would stand up > under the public scrutiny that it would get by being linked to from, say, > the Drudge Report. > > Ken Miller > Jeff Gannon School of Journalism No Ken, honestly, let's back channel tomorrow... I'll try and write you then. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 2 22:17:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j433GuWm012791 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 22:16:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 22:17:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00611285@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:16:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:16:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j433GtMv025059 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:16:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1742628nzp for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.10 with SMTP id g10mr641181nzc; Mon, 02 May 2005 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DfJFNX7uldT+BmNoFX5rtlzwv29914+Y8hVB4+Fai17u3PP56M0ILCSvkZIpxVrtjK44HszzIQqYBUvJk1tF18g4jP+srdOa64pscGq6I5bcBhJgXowXtOjRdd7wrokpyLG0dgMfaMDjOaXbi8QiMDSc3em9lEa2aooCrgz1LXU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050502201661fb7c3f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 22:16:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? In-Reply-To: <009101c54f88$fdee8120$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> <009101c54f88$fdee8120$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j433GuWm012791 On 5/2/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bookrat" > > At 10:21 AM -0700 5/2/05, Alan Wild wrote: > >>Of course you would; to you, information is large smelly laundry. That > >>web > >>is a jihadist web, and the report is proprietary. > > > > In other words, the reporter doesn't think that his report would stand > up > > under the public scrutiny that it would get by being linked to from, > say, > > the Drudge Report. > > > > Ken Miller > > Jeff Gannon School of Journalism > > No Ken, honestly, let's back channel tomorrow... I'll try and write you > then. > Oh, Ken insults you even more than I did and you want to backchannel with him?! Jeeze. Chopped Liver From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 01:13:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j436D4Wm032116 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 01:13:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 01:13:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00611CED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 2:13:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 02:13:03 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j436D2ur015165 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 02:13:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1947274wra for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 23:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.14 with SMTP id x14mr900461wrc; Mon, 02 May 2005 23:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 23:13:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mxA3k1ud0WMqfNPoXyYn2bUamwopk0i+vKt+qovM7ZnFMKXFhgmyWojpJIFEPH00FjD1CUbuh/Nll7MqfbkaIqUp12YZuVlYhjY6lvhjvJnAloPjE1JqXTHvy7sxoQj2t3ukWjy8B6dYK1g57A5GaZ6cJEi7BDki9oGMd9+RkIc= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:13:02 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life In-Reply-To: <4276B77B.5000408@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1191505766.20050502084136@gailndan.com> <4276B77B.5000408@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j436D4Wm032116 > > I've thought about buying some of the Fair Trade > Coffee that our church sells since it is supposedly A Good Thing -- as > in it helps small farmers. But it costs about five times what my > ordinary coffee costs. -- Natalie We buy Fair Trade coffee in Maine. It costs less than the grocery stuff and is twice as good. It was snowing in Hammerfest this morning. Pretty. Some of their avalanche fences were broken. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 02:27:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j437RQWm008479 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 02:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 02:27:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00611E8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 3:27:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:27:22 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j437RKYY023646 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:27:21 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050309254418935 for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 09:25:44 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 3 May 2005 09:27:20 +0200 Message-ID: <427727D7.2070106@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:27:19 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1191505766.20050502084136@gailndan.com> <4276B77B.5000408@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2005 07:27:20.0158 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A8317E0:01C54FB1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev skrev 03.05.2005 08:13: >>I've thought about buying some of the Fair Trade >>Coffee that our church sells since it is supposedly A Good Thing -- as >>in it helps small farmers. But it costs about five times what my >>ordinary coffee costs. -- Natalie >> >> > > > We buy Fair Trade coffee in Maine. It costs less than the grocery stuff and >is twice as good. > It was snowing in Hammerfest this morning. Pretty. Some of their avalanche >fences were broken. > > > > We are going to the mountains on Thursday to stay until Monday - I am preparing for an exam in Plutarch on Tuesday. We might have some snow, but we are not takingv skis along. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 03:55:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j438t7Wm018089 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 03:55:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 03:55:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00612421@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 4:55:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 309763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 04:55:06 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j438t4tk032583 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 04:55:05 -0400 Received: from mxfep02 ([195.54.107.73] [195.54.107.73]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050503085503.EMKL9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02>; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:55:03 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: , , , , , , , Subject: Bangkok, day 2 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:55:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050503085503.EMKL9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (I wrote this earlier and it just disappeared. I'm not feeling as inspired this time so please forgive me if I'm boring.) Damn jetlag. I couldn't sleep very well because I was hungry. We had to get up early to go for a fitting at the tailor's. Otherwise there is no way I would have budged from that bed at 7:30. Fitting went fine, everything should be ready by 2 pm. Great! Off to the Chatuchak Weekend Market. Lars, Dan and I took the sky train there. It was clean, easy to use and pleasant, much better than Stockholm's subway. You could see from the train that the market was HUGE and had a roof over it. That was nice because the sun and heat were brutal. I was sweating like never before and I thought the heat was annoying but poor Dan and Lars looked like they were going to keel over at any minute. I was born with a sensitive nose (thanks, Ma) and am really bothered by smells. The market was an olfactory "treat." The sewage drains smelled horrid but once you got past them, it was pretty ok. Phew! There was a lot of stuff to buy there and I picked up a few trinkets. However, the worst moment of the trip so far was when I accidentally stumbled into the area where they sold animals (Torkel, skip to the next paragraph). There were lifeless puppies in glass aquariums but even worse where the tiny wire cages with baby squirrels in them. On the top of each cage was a splayed out squirrel, tied in place. The poor things were obviously suffering because of the heat and lack of water. I spun around and ran in the other direction. It was getting later and we had to pick up our clothes, get a bite to eat, shower and check out by 4 pm. I was so sweaty that I showered before picking up our clothes. They are perfect!! My suit included a skirt, pants and a blazer. The tank tops fit great! Bingo!! Checked out, got to the airport, had an uneventful flight to Taipei, where the hotel's van was waiting for us. Dan and Lars have stayed at this hotel several times and recommend it highly. When we arrived at there, an employee opened the van door and I was the first to get out. When he stuck his head in the van to help the others out, he burst out, "Oh it's you! Welcome! I did not see it was you because you have pretty lady with you!" The man is either blind or a liar but I'll take the compliment anyway! Got to the room, logged on to check e-mail and unpacked a little. It was 2 am local time before we got to bed and we had to get up at 7 am... Ugh. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 06:11:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43BBWWm006288 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 06:11:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 06:11:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F3D2B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 7:11:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:11:32 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43BBWLV006531 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:11:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.232]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050503111131.XIZG1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:11:31 -0400 Message-ID: <42775C5E.4010802@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 06:11:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1191505766.20050502084136@gailndan.com> <4276B77B.5000408@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > We buy Fair Trade coffee in Maine. It costs less than the grocery stuff and >is twice as good. > > I'm surprised (at the cost, not at what it tastes like). I guess it depends on who's selling it -- as in whether it's a church fund-raiser, which I assume ours is (though I don't really know the details -- the person in charge of the project does all the selling and presumably set the prices). A small bag is $8. I haven't examined what's written on the bag re weight to compare it with what's written on grocery-store bags or cans re weight, but the bag looks smaller than the can of coffee sitting in my kitchen cabinet right now, a can which cost a few dollars (Great Value brand). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 06:20:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43BKGWm007391 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 06:20:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 06:20:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F3D31D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 7:20:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:20:16 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j43BKFYu008091 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 07:20:16 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050313183520973 for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:18:35 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 3 May 2005 13:19:30 +0200 Message-ID: <42775E41.4060209@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 13:19:29 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: City Life References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1191505766.20050502084136@gailndan.com> <4276B77B.5000408@maynor.net> <42775C5E.4010802@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42775C5E.4010802@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2005 11:19:30.0296 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9857780:01C54FD1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 03.05.2005 13:11: > bonniemaev wrote: > >> We buy Fair Trade coffee in Maine. It costs less than the grocery >> stuff and >> is twice as good. >> >> > I'm surprised (at the cost, not at what it tastes like). I guess it > depends on who's selling it -- as in whether it's a church fund-raiser, > which I assume ours is (though I don't really know the details -- the > person in charge of the project does all the selling and presumably set > the prices). A small bag is $8. I haven't examined what's written on I have now tested two batches of ecological fair trade bananas, and both samples have shown a much higher quality than the standard "Dole" vel sim brand of bananas. The ecological bananas have survived for at least a week in room temperature in my ofice. Even if dark spots have appeared on the outside, the inside has been firm and the taste delicious. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 08:22:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43DMaWm023234 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:22:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 08:22:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F3D63E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 8:52:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:52:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j43CgYZr021385 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 08:42:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 40420 invoked by uid 1003); 3 May 2005 12:42:34 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 07:42:34 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Message-ID: <20050503124234.GA36497@words-l.org> References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> <009101c54f88$fdee8120$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a7050502201661fb7c3f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050502201661fb7c3f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:16:54PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>Of course you would; to you, information is large smelly laundry. > > >>That web is a jihadist web, and the report is proprietary. > > > > > > In other words, the reporter doesn't think that his report would > > > stand up under the public scrutiny that it would get by being > > > linked to from, say, the Drudge Report. > > > > > > Ken Miller > > > Jeff Gannon School of Journalism > > > > No Ken, honestly, let's back channel tomorrow... I'll try and > > write you then. > > Oh, Ken insults you even more than I did and you want to backchannel > with him?! > > Jeeze. > > Chopped Liver Being in Real Chicago [tm], I have seen this behavior countless times, but you must have seen it in an animal documentary or two? Insult a Real Chicago [tm] man mildly, and he will growl and bare his teeth in whatever way that comes easiest to him. Insult him beyond a certain point and he is a subservient b-tch. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 12:18:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43HIpWm015354 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:18:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:18:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F3E59B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:18:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 360483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:18:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43HIouh010974 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:18:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1958153nzp for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.14 with SMTP id o14mr732926nzo; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:18:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BQLu9GtNDvqGgJ7nTsI1coIGc4LjmoENAgMOCXh2V4/MClUG9RDqxjb4pdxwy8BKjPLXGh1szfyUqKnTfcbpgB6QLL9cAz3KIfKOdCTTQbt+KVzy1PNnAzK3fwDcHJn1zFItNXHFxC9TuV8oze68qI5xuwqCNtVJouqhucAAqw4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050310182c7d09e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:18:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: This explains a lot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j43HIpWm015354 "Mrs. Bush said the President's solution to any problem at the Texas ranch is to cut it down with a chain saw, ''which I think is why he and Cheney and (Secretary of Defense Donald) Rumsfeld get along so well.'' Yes, it explains a lot. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 12:37:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43HavWm017270 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:36:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:37:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F3E6F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:36:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:36:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43Havuf014833 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:36:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1966096nzp for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.12 with SMTP id h12mr735212nzh; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 10:36:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XhpOlpHQkLM0uZBSrAOm4AjlgomyB1jhYXaaPvpOig2pRU9mPlaCZiqSwqYzAqLjw5C7bBvAMTIv7b+axgPEl8rxAbf5Xciu0S8CwhRYePfHxBzvzLQYd+v8/Wxe8lqILti6Ll5y/F9QpivZqzooRByg+y+3LiilGzfG1Jy/aYE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505031036256d39e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:36:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I think I know why I live in Texas Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j43HavWm017270 It's my weakness for honkytonk. Karen who is listening to the Lucky Tomblin band live http://www.luckytomblinband.com/entrance.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 12:49:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43HneWm018614 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 12:49:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:49:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006137A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:49:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 365545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:49:40 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43Hncsa017279 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:49:39 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18438688 for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 10:51:21 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 3 May 2005 10:49:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:49:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <527009173.20050503114937@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: City Life In-Reply-To: <42775C5E.4010802@maynor.net> References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1191505766.20050502084136@gailndan.com> <4276B77B.5000408@maynor.net> <42775C5E.4010802@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 186, in=76625, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/3/2005, 5:11 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I'm surprised (at the cost, not at what it tastes like). I guess it NM> depends on who's selling it -- as in whether it's a church fund-raiser, NM> which I assume ours is (though I don't really know the details -- the NM> person in charge of the project does all the selling and presumably set NM> the prices). A small bag is $8. Our church sells "Bishop's Blend", of which a bag is ten bucks. It is a twelve ounce bag, fair trade, from Kenya, where our Bishop has made a number of missionary trips with members of the diocese. Some of the money goes to our church, some to the diocese. I'd bet that yours also has an "extra markup" for the benefit of the church or some other good cause. So, sounds like you're getting off cheap...but then you're Unitarians instead of Episcopalians. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 13:14:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43IELWm022604 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:14:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:14:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00613932@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:04:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:04:20 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43I4Kge020875 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:04:20 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 May 2005 14:04:20 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 14:04:15 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: This explains a lot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes. This was part of a whole comedy routine she did for some event (don't remember what). Apparently she was very very funny. Another thing she said was that she told him if he wanted to end world tyranny he'd have to start staying up later than 9:00 - and that she stays up to watch Desparate Housewives because she identifies with them. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/3/2005 1:18:50 PM >>> "Mrs. Bush said the President's solution to any problem at the Texas ranch is to cut it down with a chain saw, ''which I think is why he and Cheney and (Secretary of Defense Donald) Rumsfeld get along so well.'' Yes, it explains a lot. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 13:14:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43IELWm022605 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:14:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:14:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006139BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:13:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 369549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:13:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43IDu5E022719 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:13:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1981232nzp for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 11:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr740516nzb; Tue, 03 May 2005 11:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 11:13:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PNRQu0lLc4kTHQT5BFHJsV5e+eVtBmOTNAxOojLT8tfF69BoseOqxFJQlR4/dT9xGGs8jcuq7dqABYbT+OiBE6HnWfUM+iGFIzzxWR9dVjHypkvGTcIp4rqDaiB8y+MBMU+8jt1npsbOdCRVjQ2ToGbcEPdCdN8XO8FjPYxcBBU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050311135a0513be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:13:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: This explains a lot In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j43IELWm022605 On 5/3/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Yes. This was part of a whole comedy routine she did for some event > (don't remember what). Apparently she was very very funny. Another > thing she said was that she told him if he wanted to end world tyranny > he'd have to start staying up later than 9:00 - and that she stays up to > watch Desparate Housewives because she identifies with them. > The other 2 things, I heard before. The night of the dinner (the White House Correspondent's dinner, I think). This was in an article about how she worked up the routine and practiced it.I watched what they showed on TV, and her timing was very good. The article talked about how a pleasant wife can win hearts and minds for a failing politician. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 13:14:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43IELWm022606 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:14:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:14:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00613939@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:04:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:04:48 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43I4m0d020957 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:04:48 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j43I4keB012239 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:04:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:04:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: From the Clerk-Register In-Reply-To: <527009173.20050503114937@gailndan.com> Message-ID: References: <200504291928.j3TJSbZF032696@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1191505766.20050502084136@gailndan.com> <4276B77B.5000408@maynor.net> <42775C5E.4010802@maynor.net> <527009173.20050503114937@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wordslers, I've been neglecting to forward my weekly messages to staff. See my weblog at potifos.com/polygon if you long to see the ones you missed. To recap, my office has 50 employees in five locations, including Elections/Administration, Deeds, Vital Records, Business Names, Court Services, and Jury Board. Staff meetings (of the entire workforce) are only annual because some of our functions can't be closed during business hours without a court order. Hence, I communicate regularly to the staff via email. Here's the one I sent yesterday, Monday, May 2nd: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Tomorrow is Election Day for school boards throughout the county (except South Lyon). This will be the first May school election under the new election consolidation law. From an election administration standpoint, this is a far more demanding election situation than the one we faced in February. For one thing, we have many more ballot styles to provide, listing the candidates who are running in each school district. Because the election is nonpartisan, the order of names must be rotated from one precinct to the next. Voters accustomed to school precincts must be notified that this election will be held in regular city and township precincts. Many of those precincts are split by school district boundaries, and so have to provide more than one different kind of ballot for voters in the different areas. And given that some of the local clerks declined to take on full responsibility for the school election, we in the County Clerk's election office are obliged to step into the township clerk's role on the front lines of the election: to hire and pay election inspectors, to arrange polling locations, to transport voting equipment, to process absentee ballots, and so on. Perhaps it was inevitable that something would go wrong. You may have read in Tuesday's paper -- http://www.mlive.com/news/aanews/index.ssf?/base/news-12/1114526469190210.xml -- that a polling place change notice intended for about 600 voters in one Pittsfield Township precinct was mailed instead to 21,000 other Pittsfield voters. Fortunately, there was time to send a correcting postcard, and (since it wasn't our mistake) we will not have to pay for the erroneous mailing. I hope and expect it will turn out to be one small ripple in an otherwise smooth election. The media and most of the public pays little attention to the Clerk-Register's office when things are going well. But we are not alone in being taken for granted. Consider the fabulous network of wells and reservoirs and pipes which provide abundant clean, clear, soft water to our communities, and carry away and treat our wastewater. We only read about it in the newspaper when dioxane contamination forced the city to close the Montgomery Street well. But the careful and dedicated work necessary to develop and maintain this system must be enormous; hundreds of people in Washtenaw County alone must spend their entire working lives devoted to it. We rely on them without ever thinking of them. And that's just one of many such vital and under-appreciated functions. My father-in-law was a telephone engineer; he worked all his days on an even more complex system. Fire fighters, mail carriers, computer operators, farmers, and on and on, are all in the same boat. And these folks are not just our friends and relatives: they are also our customers, the same people we serve at our counters, our courtrooms, and our polling places. They may not take much notice of what we do, but each and every one of them has some important role in our community, state, and country. To treat each customer with courtesy and respect goes at least a little way to express our appreciation. Let's have an uneventful election, and a great week! Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 13:16:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43IGAWm022913 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:16:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:16:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061391D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:16:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 369774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:16:10 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43IG9ft023065 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:16:09 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 100058630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 03 May 2005 11:11:44 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050503111121.00bb24b8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:11:43 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: This explains a lot In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU She was great and the next day corrected one of his mistakes. At 02:04 PM 5/3/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Yes. This was part of a whole comedy routine she did for some event >(don't remember what). Apparently she was very very funny. Another >thing she said was that she told him if he wanted to end world tyranny >he'd have to start staying up later than 9:00 - and that she stays up to >watch Desparate Housewives because she identifies with them. > >BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/3/2005 1:18:50 PM >>> > "Mrs. Bush said the President's solution to any problem at the Texas >ranch >is to cut it down with a chain saw, ''which I think is why he and >Cheney and >(Secretary of Defense Donald) Rumsfeld get along so well.'' > >Yes, it explains a lot. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 13:17:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43IHhWm023187 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:17:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:17:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006139DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:17:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 369904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:17:43 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43IHgV4023283 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:17:43 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 100059426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 03 May 2005 11:13:51 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050503111225.00b6c778@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:13:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Natalie In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You can run the Bay to Breakers while you are here! http://www.baytobreakers.com/info/ Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 13:37:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43IarWm026017 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:36:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:36:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F3EB12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:36:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 372783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:36:50 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43Ian6B028136 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:36:49 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 May 2005 14:36:49 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 14:36:27 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: This explains a lot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are there any states in need of senators in 2008? BrP >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 5/3/2005 2:11:43 PM >>> She was great and the next day corrected one of his mistakes. At 02:04 PM 5/3/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Yes. This was part of a whole comedy routine she did for some event >(don't remember what). Apparently she was very very funny. Another >thing she said was that she told him if he wanted to end world tyranny >he'd have to start staying up later than 9:00 - and that she stays up to >watch Desparate Housewives because she identifies with them. > >BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/3/2005 1:18:50 PM >>> > "Mrs. Bush said the President's solution to any problem at the Texas >ranch >is to cut it down with a chain saw, ''which I think is why he and >Cheney and >(Secretary of Defense Donald) Rumsfeld get along so well.'' > >Yes, it explains a lot. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 14:29:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43JT8Wm003010 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:29:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 14:29:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00613B06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:29:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 379013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:29:08 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43JT7N2006617 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:29:07 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18450559 for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 12:30:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 3 May 2005 12:29:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:29:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1092533420.20050503132906@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: This explains a lot In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050503111121.00bb24b8@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050503111121.00bb24b8@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 187, in=76716, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/3/2005, 12:11 PM, Betty Clark wrote: BC> She was great and the next day corrected one of his mistakes. It was some sort of press dinner. One she said was "I know how to pronounce 'nuclear'". dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 14:38:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43JcKWm004515 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:38:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 14:38:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F3EE6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:38:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:38:11 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43JcB4n008318 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:38:11 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 89917912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:37:54 -0400 Message-ID: <4277D322.3010303@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 15:38:10 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: This explains a lot References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050503111121.00bb24b8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1092533420.20050503132906@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1092533420.20050503132906@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >It was some sort of press dinner. One she said was "I know how to >pronounce 'nuclear'". > > > > I guess she will never be a real politician. There is a radio spot running here, sponsored by the "Romney for Governor Committee" where he talks about a tax rollback. He mentions that the rollback was voted for by an "overwheming" number of voters. He also mentions some failing of the "ledislature" in the same spot. Definitely presidential material. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 14:48:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43JmmWm006143 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 14:48:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 14:48:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F3EED1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:38:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:38:47 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43Jck9p008468 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:38:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18619573 for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 13:06:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 3 May 2005 12:39:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:38:45 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1153733423.20050503133845@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: This explains a lot In-Reply-To: <1092533420.20050503132906@gailndan.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050503111121.00bb24b8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1092533420.20050503132906@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 182, in=65828, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/3/2005, 1:29 PM, Dan Lester wrote: DL> It was some sort of press dinner. One she said was "I know how to DL> pronounce 'nuclear'". Get the video at http://treyjackson.net/files/WHCD.wmv Runs about ten minutes. Starts with him and then she "interrupts". Was White House Correspondents Dinner dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 16:55:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43LtXWm022897 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 16:55:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 16:55:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061420E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:55:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 399174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:55:33 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43LtXGd002005 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:55:33 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j43LtV7S011463 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:55:32 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j43Lr8LT004347 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:53:10 -0400 Message-ID: <006901c5502a$821c7a00$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> <009101c54f88$fdee8120$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a7050502201661fb7c3f@mail.gmail.com> <20050503124234.GA36497@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:53:12 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" >> Chopped Liver > > Being in Real Chicago [tm], I have seen this behavior countless > times, but you must have seen it in an animal documentary or two? > Insult a Real Chicago [tm] man mildly, and he will growl and bare > his teeth in whatever way that comes easiest to him. Insult him > beyond a certain point and he is a subservient b-tch. Good thing I am not from BitChicago. Oh, the incessant lame incompleteness of Wordslur lives... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 17:14:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43MEjWm025799 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:14:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 17:14:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006144D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:14:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 400706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:14:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j43M4iv9003683 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:04:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 70359 invoked by uid 1003); 3 May 2005 22:04:43 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:04:43 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: This explains a lot Message-ID: <20050503220443.GA64142@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050503111121.00bb24b8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050503111121.00bb24b8@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 11:11:43AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > She was great and the next day corrected one of his mistakes. How standards have fallen ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 17:14:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j43MElWm025808 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 17:14:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 17:14:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061441F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:14:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 401808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:14:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j43MEl5F005252 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 18:14:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2075871nzp for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr775384nzb; Tue, 03 May 2005 15:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 15:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SnRCop7OhMn6LlK4tb/2NO+Fq40btNG24pm/whbiLhqQNkiJYm1rT27zAhMWiv/sA7qjqet2QRfO1+UU4lbjH/XiZ5/xUnBXXQN72bADCcpH3ZkkeoE5BQod4e+yJKLI8BjekPV3uWgkl/NBGggUpFDdlUnpo9OxZcRi+oDX2ls= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050503151431823377@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:14:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? In-Reply-To: <20050503124234.GA36497@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> <009101c54f88$fdee8120$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a7050502201661fb7c3f@mail.gmail.com> <20050503124234.GA36497@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j43MElWm025808 On 5/3/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:16:54PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > >>Of course you would; to you, information is large smelly laundry. > > > >>That web is a jihadist web, and the report is proprietary. > > > > > > > > In other words, the reporter doesn't think that his report would > > > > stand up under the public scrutiny that it would get by being > > > > linked to from, say, the Drudge Report. > > > > > > > > Ken Miller > > > > Jeff Gannon School of Journalism > > > > > > No Ken, honestly, let's back channel tomorrow... I'll try and > > > write you then. > > > > Oh, Ken insults you even more than I did and you want to backchannel > > with him?! > > > > Jeeze. > > > > Chopped Liver > > Being in Real Chicago [tm], I have seen this behavior countless > times, but you must have seen it in an animal documentary or two? > Insult a Real Chicago [tm] man mildly, and he will growl and bare > his teeth in whatever way that comes easiest to him. Insult him > beyond a certain point and he is a subservient b-tch. > Excellent point. Does this mean you're my bitch? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 19:39:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j440d0Wm010518 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:39:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 19:39:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00614B3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:39:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 418984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:39:00 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j440cxaL024337 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:38:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.241]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504003859.OEL2148.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:38:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4278199D.5010304@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:38:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: This explains a lot References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Yes. This was part of a whole comedy routine she did for some event >(don't remember what). Apparently she was very very funny. Another >thing she said was that she told him if he wanted to end world tyranny >he'd have to start staying up later than 9:00 - and that she stays up to >watch Desparate Housewives because she identifies with them. > > And the thing about GB's milking a male horse. (It was the White House Press Association, or some such name.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 19:43:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j440gtWm010804 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:42:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 19:42:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F40213@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:42:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 419187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:42:54 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j440gslS024680 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:42:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.241]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504004254.WBB2148.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:42:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42781A88.1090208@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:42:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050503111225.00b6c778@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050503111225.00b6c778@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > You can run the Bay to Breakers while you are here! > > http://www.baytobreakers.com/info/ Don't want to pack running shoes. They're heavy and space-eating. I need to get back to thought of clothes sometime before departure. I mentioned the upcoming trip to my next-door neighbor a few days ago, and she said, "Take warm clothes. It's ALWAYS cold in San Francisco." I told her that that had been my observation on my few visits there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 19:46:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j440kJWm011134 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:46:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 19:46:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00614A50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:46:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 419375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:46:18 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j440kIm1025022 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:46:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.241]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504004618.BBNZ2148.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:46:18 -0400 Message-ID: <42781B54.7010806@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 19:46:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Flora Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was listening to Felder Rushing and Dr. Dirt on the radio while driving to Starkville this morning (they talk about gardening and take phone calls and e-mail), and at one point Felder mentioned something about good "shade trees that don't block the sun." I found that a bit odd. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From aurelius@xynetmail.com Tue May 3 20:15:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from xynetmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j441FbWn014347 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 20:15:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200505040115.j441FbWn014347@gtoal.com> Received: from 209.203.195.61 ([209.203.195.61]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 20:15:44 CDT From: "Aurelius Consulting Group, Inc." Subject: Why would you buy a $0.35 stock? To: words-l@gtoal.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: aurelius@xynetmail.com Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 20:15:34 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 22:15:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j443FGWm029273 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:15:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 22:15:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00615525@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:08:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 441350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:08:40 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4438e8B009811 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:08:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.241]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504030839.UQGY2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:08:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 22:08:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >What did Dan Camp run for? > > Mayor: http://dancamp.org/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 22:15:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j443FGWm029277 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:15:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 22:15:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061527B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:45:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 434953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:45:16 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j442jFR4005987 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:45:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.241]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504024515.IUBH2148.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:45:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 21:45:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: What a Night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The f'ing vote-counting machine in Starkville broke, so the counting is delayed. But with 2/3 of the votes counted, Dan Camp was in the lead. YaY! I forgot to ask if anybody there knew about the aldermen's races. How can I go to sleep tonight without knowing the outcome?? The person I voted for in the mayor's race in Jackson lost, but that's ok. My feelings were mixed anyway. Supposedly the one who won is going to do wonderful things. It's just that I concluded that he was devious, Republicanish, and jerkish. So I voted for the incumbent -- Harvey Johnson. I turned on the electric teevee a little while ago and heard Frank Melton's acceptance speech. (Technically, this is just a primary. But the run-off against the Republican will be an unimportant formality. The winner of the Democratic primary is the next mayor.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 22:15:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j443FGWm029271 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:15:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 22:15:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00615378@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:54:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 435767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:54:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j442sVOg006847 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:54:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2133488nzp for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 19:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.91.2 with SMTP id o2mr30426nzb; Tue, 03 May 2005 19:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 19:54:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=h+hVnGN9MexIS2Dsgqwmb/PlG8pX4zN6PqZg6QSdQEiZNVd/3kTdQtpvQ5acRpoa/j4acLixCkoBCrZuBhVcNiNetXrdQ1tHAPMLDXmeDnkF8Y/Z9d1CTXj5rsNe9oW9dXmnYaSGVVHf64FaSkBCxxTIzAuM4oxoUUvdo5xUMhE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:54:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night In-Reply-To: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j443FGWm029271 What did Dan Camp run for? On 5/3/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > The f'ing vote-counting machine in Starkville broke, so the counting is > delayed. But with 2/3 of the votes counted, Dan Camp was in the lead. > YaY! I forgot to ask if anybody there knew about the aldermen's races. > How can I go to sleep tonight without knowing the outcome?? > > The person I voted for in the mayor's race in Jackson lost, but that's > ok. My feelings were mixed anyway. Supposedly the one who won is going > to do wonderful things. It's just that I concluded that he was devious, > Republicanish, and jerkish. So I voted for the incumbent -- Harvey > Johnson. I turned on the electric teevee a little while ago and heard > Frank Melton's acceptance speech. (Technically, this is just a > primary. But the run-off against the Republican will be an unimportant > formality. The winner of the Democratic primary is the next mayor.) > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 22:15:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j443FGWm029276 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:15:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 22:15:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00615428@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:10:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 441504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:10:14 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j443A90E010074 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:10:10 -0400 Received: from mxfep02 ([195.54.107.73] [195.54.107.73]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050504031008.KNFQ9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02>; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:10:08 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: , , , , , , , Subject: Grrrrrr....... Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 5:10:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050504031008.KNFQ9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The damn internet service that the hotel has keeps hijacking my windows while I use webmail, which means everything I write disappears. I'm going to keep a diary in Word instead and transfer it to e-mail when I back in Sweden. Ya'll will just have to wait until I get home to hear what happens. Marcia, pissed off From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 22:38:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j443c0Wm031626 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 22:38:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 22:38:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F415E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:38:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 454928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:33:36 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j443XaJ6012434 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:33:36 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.66.5677de0f (4004) for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:33:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <66.5677de0f.2fa99c8b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 23:33:31 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] This explains a lot To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 5/3/2005 1:37:14 PM Central Daylight Time, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: << Are there any states in need of senators in 2008? BrP >> Well, Tom Coburn may be in a spot of trouble: he wants to keep his medical practice in Oklahoma as well as being senator. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 3 23:33:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j444XbWm006965 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 23:33:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 23:33:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00615F9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 0:33:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 459835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:33:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4441XAn016125 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:01:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2146313nzp for ; Tue, 03 May 2005 21:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.18 with SMTP id h18mr37294nzh; Tue, 03 May 2005 21:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2005 21:01:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VgDiX7E6pXRv/KOY/2gY9ec2g3kWu8JaqM5AdumqO7/kN0+jUOxLPcdoKHahFHTomMSup28866bjBh5o0MDkbeIk1kEbWtjB6lTIH5ao/drw4I6B8yBpeUeFw5BrpAs3I/syx+sTh/QhpInTv/UOo1UaLQGT2S/7TW0plSHEznw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 23:01:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night In-Reply-To: <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j444XbWm006965 What?s with his apostrophes? On 5/3/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >What did Dan Camp run for? > > > > > Mayor: > > http://dancamp.org/ > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 02:15:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j447FHWm028841 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 02:15:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 02:15:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061704F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 3:05:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 483665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 03:05:16 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4475CBT001902 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 03:05:13 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so90481wri for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 00:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.13 with SMTP id y13mr107733wrc; Wed, 04 May 2005 00:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 00:04:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=f6XqTLdChuhvHQ14OwIppF6EJBv2rDScY8kfriSi2kx2Lz3lLj0hsIVyU1nbye6ZSYh7JExciYGK2ISGiROldc/VF5Dvt0f5lWjsUvX5JXGeVqPLh3AAd0l2QfeDZ3oUuB9tIokCDl1SM7TUk/XSvgdPz2QQGp4StVxnSfbwJh8= Message-ID: <83db447a0505040004531d14c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:04:33 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: bleakly bouncing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j447FHWm028841 Greetings from Vadsø, or rather, the stretch from Vadsø to Kirkenes. Yesterday we had fog, snow flurries, sun, and lots of wind. The excursion to the North Cape was great. Like so much of this voyage north of the Circle, I tried to imagine last tmie what it would be like with snow cover; my imagination didn't come close. The Sami are back on the cape with their reindeer. Last time we had a great tour guide---a young woman (local) who talked with obvious enjoyment of the history and culture of the cape. This time, we had an older woman who sat and read off a prepared sheet, givng "extremely important information," most all of which one could get from the brochure of the North Cape Center or by reading the signs there. I don't mind being talked to; I sure as hell don't like being talked at. Last night was fairly rough; today is about the same. Time to get a book and a more-or-less horizontal position. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 05:26:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44AQNWm025551 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:26:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 05:26:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00619830@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 6:06:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:06:22 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44A6MCP017528 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:06:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.66]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504100622.QRRZ2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:06:22 -0400 Message-ID: <42789E97.2020007@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 05:06:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >What?s with his apostrophes? > > I didn't notice anything unusual about his apostrophes. He won! This was e-mail sent to me at 11:25 p.m. by one of the chad-catchers: >The vote counting machine was eventually fixed (although I did have to >handcount 100 ballots--yes, I counted them). And Dan won. >On the Repug side, Roberson won. > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 06:48:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44Bm1Wm003684 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:48:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:48:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F433A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 7:48:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:48:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44Bm0lA019192 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:48:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2239271nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 04:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.4 with SMTP id h4mr69924nzb; Wed, 04 May 2005 04:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 04:48:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fL3NfdWGCE6RzHRIn5gmCtFSEKEslV+ilxClgcYSh/BLVy5Blrlmz0xtPz4gCiJugwStFWrukOJI7LZeva2YTb5SAgj52dOH0M5rlcuGmBf3cCfx1Kk97kr3uYFEWRt6kH8ZFaxQC2UU1uuuDjscX8eWy3RZEf62StStJ2PKMJk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505040448afb5d03@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 06:48:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night In-Reply-To: <42789E97.2020007@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> <42789E97.2020007@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44Bm1Wm003684 They were all question marks. On 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >What?s with his apostrophes? > > > > > I didn't notice anything unusual about his apostrophes. > > He won! This was e-mail sent to me at 11:25 p.m. by one of the > chad-catchers: > > >The vote counting machine was eventually fixed (although I did have to > >handcount 100 ballots--yes, I counted them). And Dan won. > >On the Repug side, Roberson won. > > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 06:52:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44Bq1Wm004212 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:52:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:52:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F433D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 7:52:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 510080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:52:01 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44Bq0lZ019617 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:52:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.38.66]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504115200.UFNF2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:52:00 -0400 Message-ID: <4278B75F.4090405@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 06:51:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> <42789E97.2020007@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505040448afb5d03@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505040448afb5d03@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >They were all question marks. > > Not on my screen. They were apostrophes on my screen. >On 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> >>>What?s with his apostrophes? >>> >>> >>I didn't notice anything unusual about his apostrophes. >> >> -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 07:22:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44CMTWm008355 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:22:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:22:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F434A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 8:12:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 511999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:12:29 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44CCRwQ022224 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:12:28 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j44CCKmx015595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:12:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:12:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night In-Reply-To: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 3 May 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > The f'ing vote-counting machine in Starkville broke, so the counting is > delayed. But with 2/3 of the votes counted, Dan Camp was in the lead. > YaY! I forgot to ask if anybody there knew about the aldermen's races. > How can I go to sleep tonight without knowing the outcome?? We had an election here, too (school boards), and as County Clerk I was in the office until around 2am, and back here before 7am. There are a bunch of write-in candidates, and the write-in votes have to be counted by hand. School elections, until this year, were run by the school districts themselves. Under the new law, counties and localities have that responsibility. 23 of our 25 townships and cities accepted the job and ran the election in the same way that they normally run elections. But two suburban townships decided they didn't like the law, and sat out the election. That meant my office had to do the township clerk tasks as well as the county clerk tasks (hiring and paying election workers, opening and closing and supplying the precinct polling locations, etc.), and my staff is stretched very thin. Ann Arbor school elections in the past have been clashes between liberal and conservative slates of candidates, with each winning alternating years. But conservatism is on the decline here, and this year only liberal candidates ran: a slate consisting of two incumbents and one ally of theirs, another liberal who ran separate but substantial campaign, and a young person who dropped out of the race too late to get his name off the ballot. I expected the independent liberal to win, but instead, the slate prevailed by a narrow margin. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 07:57:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44CvOWm013100 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:57:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:57:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F436D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 8:57:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 517243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:57:10 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44CvA7Z029370 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:57:10 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 May 2005 08:57:09 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 08:56:51 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Mo' pixtures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU wonderful >>> marieber@GMAIL.COM 5/4/2005 8:47:23 AM >>> http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c526098.html -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 07:57:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44CvOWm013099 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:57:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:57:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F43683@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 8:47:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:47:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44ClNOU027937 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:47:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so164763wri for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 05:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.69.15 with SMTP id r15mr141395wra; Wed, 04 May 2005 05:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 05:47:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=CkasUN7vQMHF+KF37j8m1Mvt7mWtXT9udaJfNZF9iEWqQtpyXGodCFfLkpfTCsfOasIdoUgKOB5JosnOvADiw6aXBpbiisoTfmkYeIGJICGyGgBRqN8CBh7SOnBUcw4lpYEU6RTQgq+wJAbjoxDndbyGlbnqzdnKioexKFK4QN8= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:47:23 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Mo' pixtures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44CvOWm013099 http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c526098.html -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 08:11:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44DB2Wm015062 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:11:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 08:11:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061B47A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 9:11:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 518771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:11:00 -0400 Received: from web60714.mail.yahoo.com (web60714.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j44DB0dJ031512 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:11:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 61585 invoked by uid 60001); 4 May 2005 13:11:00 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60714.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:11:00 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=11PSkcQ7ohMKXzc/ki+lhxDj6uBKP9ZNdUgnOVNkQmJN4qGrpOyfx9O8s/U31NJU9VaKi+kSDzWIeIcBs6ZxuYybR6mzipNIRH6orfp5pqnzwS3UABOpbFsKKR8AbfC+8IIKDm+Ak00Y6AxCTHHzsugLP/HKjts1qKr0Yd/96k0= ; Message-ID: <20050504131100.61583.qmail@web60714.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 06:11:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: What a Night To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > The f'ing vote-counting machine in Starkville broke, > so the counting is > delayed. But with 2/3 of the votes counted, Dan > Camp was in the lead. > YaY! I forgot to ask if anybody there knew about > the aldermen's races. > How can I go to sleep tonight without knowing the > outcome?? > > The person I voted for in the mayor's race in > Jackson lost, but that's > ok. My feelings were mixed anyway. Supposedly the > one who won is going > to do wonderful things. It's just that I concluded > that he was devious, > Republicanish, and jerkish. So I voted for the > incumbent -- Harvey > Johnson. I turned on the electric teevee a little > while ago and heard > Frank Melton's acceptance speech. (Technically, > this is just a > primary. But the run-off against the Republican > will be an unimportant > formality. The winner of the Democratic primary is > the next mayor.) Did you vote in both cities? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 08:25:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44DPBWm017400 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:25:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 08:25:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061B65E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 9:15:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:15:11 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44DFAPc032335 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:15:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18399500 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:31:01 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 4 May 2005 06:15:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:15:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1327241097.20050504071508@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: What a Night In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 187, in=64400, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/3/2005, 10:01 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> What?s with his apostrophes? And what's with a son named Bonn? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 08:50:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44DnsWm021003 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:49:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 08:49:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061B69C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 9:49:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:49:54 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44DnsAg007439 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:49:54 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2005050413503211100141hje>; Wed, 4 May 2005 13:50:33 +0000 Message-Id: <200505041349.j44DnsAg007439@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Mo' pixtures Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:49:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcVQp4KNscU3rfJOT3CR58DzB/AmUwACJJCg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marieber Meeber >Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:47 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Mo' pixtures > >http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c526098.html > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com > Very nice. Alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 08:50:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44DoXWm021125 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:50:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 08:50:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061B6A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 9:50:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:50:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44DoU9l007552 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:50:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2273849nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.8 with SMTP id l8mr88963nzl; Wed, 04 May 2005 06:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 06:50:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=daO7o9FIj0QCAXXKyhKEd6otfTXHa1IIyjth+v1EpO6mZcMKU5Xijrlm5hXL8aAMHLK2CAVmhsI1W/xFQQaacEdyJmSi7c3Knmz5wELWaWkoSPrL6Bw+DBwYKleQ5mRzEUckZtCpxsILCgT4HoGLW8H5HSd1fXk5FcbhY0+v9fY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505040650178f497@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:50:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mo' pixtures In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44DoXWm021125 These are the sweetest children that ever lived. On 5/4/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c526098.html > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:04:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44E4eWm023688 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:04:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:04:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F43AB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:04:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:04:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44E4ZKs010316 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:04:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2278723nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.8 with SMTP id l8mr90786nzl; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:04:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Q/HuGd96AeqO/2o1lRR8UhRwbruyvN+SSa/WTs6gPSslcOFkCV/PxsH/QUBrjSwY9LbmPxiuA/hEAAAVFvaiC9KnkkkhnhKN9nixyphFxndkTGtkOL+RJ2+DjOAzNwXdiueoJUanP7/Kuw8pAroZSQRO6bzDV0VKMYLNhqa7cag= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050504070437322382@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:04:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mo' pixtures In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44E4eWm023688 On 5/4/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > at least until January > > :-) Well, yes, of course. That will be the sweetest grandchild that ever lived, heir to P.R. Barkfood fortune. I was afraid you would think I was dissing Beautiful Brandon. But he is also one of the sweetest children that ever lived. I am happy that Mareebers beebers are so *happy*. They clearly only know a world full of love and caring for *them*. Karen >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/4/2005 9:50:30 AM >>> > These are the sweetest children that ever lived. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:06:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44E5qWm023786 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:05:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:06:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061B819@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:02:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:02:38 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44E2cCD009849 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:02:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.196.134]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504140238.MNWO1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:02:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4278D5FD.6070809@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:02:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mo' pixtures References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c526098.html > > Great pictures!! They look so grown up -- especially in the pictures showing them . And I love those b&w pictures. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:06:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44E5qWm023784 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:05:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:06:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061B6CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 9:57:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:57:48 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44DvmQi008809 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:57:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.196.134]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504135748.MHXE1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:57:48 -0400 Message-ID: <4278D4DB.7030004@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 08:57:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> <1327241097.20050504071508@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1327241097.20050504071508@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >And what's with a son named Bonn? > > Bonn is the king of Israel? (I think I've told before about my brother's telling my mother in his early childhood that they'd sung about King Bonn in Sunday School. When she asked who King Bonn was, he said "Bonn is the king of Israel.") But I assume that Bonn Camp is named for Dan's sister, Bonnie. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:06:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44E5qWm023787 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:05:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:06:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061B73B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:04:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:04:50 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44E4nac010382 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:04:50 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18701721 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:32:50 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 4 May 2005 07:05:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:04:47 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <909922777.20050504080447@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: What a Night In-Reply-To: <4278D462.5030602@maynor.net> References: <20050504131100.61583.qmail@web60714.mail.yahoo.com> <4278D462.5030602@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 183, in=66167, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And what about the OTHER 100 days in the year? dan 5/4/2005, 7:55 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But it could be 50-50 if it was a leap year. Or NM> what if I spent 120 days in Starkville, 120 in Jackson, and vacationed NM> in other places the other 25 days of the year? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:06:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44E5qWm023785 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:05:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:06:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061B6D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 9:59:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:59:07 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44Dx72A009018 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:59:07 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:59:07 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:58:34 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Mo' pixtures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU at least until January :-) BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/4/2005 9:50:30 AM >>> These are the sweetest children that ever lived. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:06:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44E5qWn023786 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:06:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:06:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061B878@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:06:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:06:08 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44E67Qq010767 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:06:07 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18533654 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:08:01 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 4 May 2005 07:06:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:06:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13310202838.20050504080606@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: What a Night In-Reply-To: <4278D462.5030602@maynor.net> References: <20050504131100.61583.qmail@web60714.mail.yahoo.com> <4278D462.5030602@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 187, in=77035, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/4/2005, 7:55 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> It would have to be based on some other NM> factor. Or you could ask someone in your own state, or google it for the info. I'm pretty sure this varies from state to state. Maybe it depends on your drivers license address....or where you last used the restroom....or where your dog lives most of the time....or which is closest to where you were born....or..... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:06:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44E5qWm023779 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:05:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:06:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061B7CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 9:55:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:55:52 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44DtlSp008387 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:55:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.196.134]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504135547.MFMR1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:55:47 -0400 Message-ID: <4278D462.5030602@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 08:55:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night References: <20050504131100.61583.qmail@web60714.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050504131100.61583.qmail@web60714.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >Did you vote in both cities? > > No, I voted in Jackson but then went to Starkville and campaigned for Dan (though that wasn't why I went to Starkville yesterday -- I went for an ARF reception, among other things). I probably could've voted in Starkville -- the city is famously slow in purging its books. I started to leave my voter registration in Starkville through this election but didn't. I changed it to Jackson immediately after moving. I'm not sure what the legalities are -- as in whether I could have waited to move it since I still own a house in Starkville (not counting the rental house, which of course wouldn't count). It might be related to homestead exemption, meaning that I could have left the registration in Starkville until filing for homestead exemption here (which has to be done in January, February, or March). Actually, I guess I could have left the homestead exemption in Starkville also, now that I think about it -- or left it there until the house was sold. But what if I planned on keeping the house in Starkville and using it part time? Would I have a choice in where my voter-registration would be, or would it be tied to homestead exemption? Or would it have to do with how many days out of 365 I was living in which place? Since that's an odd number, it couldn't be 50-50. But it could be 50-50 if it was a leap year. Or what if I spent 120 days in Starkville, 120 in Jackson, and vacationed in other places the other 25 days of the year? I feel sure there are answers to these questions somewhere. If one rented, then homestead exemption wouldn't be a factor. It would have to be based on some other factor. I should ask our minister, who spends 50% of her time in Jackson and 50% in Ellisville. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:09:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44E8uWm024116 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:08:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:09:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061B88E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:08:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:08:56 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44E8tl1011506 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:08:55 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18405778 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:24:47 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 4 May 2005 07:09:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:08:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1406942304.20050504080854@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: What a Night In-Reply-To: <4278D4DB.7030004@maynor.net> References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> <1327241097.20050504071508@gailndan.com> <4278D4DB.7030004@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 187, in=64437, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/4/2005, 7:57 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>And what's with a son named Bonn? >> >> NM> Bonn is the king of Israel? (I think I've told before about my NM> brother's telling my mother in his early childhood that they'd sung NM> about King Bonn in Sunday School. When she asked who King Bonn was, he NM> said "Bonn is the king of Israel.") Oh....BORN is the king of Israel.... right? NM> But I assume that Bonn Camp is named for Dan's sister, Bonnie. So is his given name Bonn, or is it short for Bonner, or something else? Or maybe they just wanted a "different" name and were a couple decades too early for Q'Juan'Ali'Ko or some such. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:40:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44EdqWm029219 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:40:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061B989@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:15:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 527450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:15:16 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44EFGOY013334 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:15:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.196.134]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504141516.NBYC1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:15:16 -0400 Message-ID: <4278D8F3.1030304@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:15:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> <1327241097.20050504071508@gailndan.com> <4278D4DB.7030004@maynor.net> <1406942304.20050504080854@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1406942304.20050504080854@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Oh....BORN is the king of Israel.... right? > > Yes. I wasn't there, but I gathered that was the point. >NM> But I assume that Bonn Camp is named for Dan's sister, Bonnie. > >So is his given name Bonn, or is it short for Bonner, or something >else? > All I've ever heard is Bonn. > Or maybe they just wanted a "different" name and were a couple >decades too early for Q'Juan'Ali'Ko or some such. > > I don't think they were looking for a "different" name. Their other son is named Robert. And I don't find Bonn all that weird a name actually. It's true that I can't think of any other Bonns I've known, but it still sounds to me -- doesn't leap out as A Strange Name. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:40:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44EdqWm029217 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:40:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061B8A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:10:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:10:17 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44EAGOX011843 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:10:17 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 May 2005 10:10:16 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 10:10:01 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Mo' pixtures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU yes ! Well said BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/4/2005 10:04:34 AM >>> I am happy that Mareebers beebers are so *happy*. They clearly only know a world full of love and caring for *them*. Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:40:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44EdqWm029220 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:40:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061B8AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:10:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:10:58 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44EAwin012003 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:10:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.196.134]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504141058.MXGA1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:10:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4278D7F1.6010101@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:10:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night References: <20050504131100.61583.qmail@web60714.mail.yahoo.com> <4278D462.5030602@maynor.net> <13310202838.20050504080606@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <13310202838.20050504080606@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> It would have to be based on some other >NM> factor. > >Or you could ask someone in your own state, or google it for the info. >I'm pretty sure this varies from state to state. > I have been assuming that it varies from state to state. Otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned homestead exemption, which I don't think exists in all states. When I said that I felt sure the answers existed somewhere, I had in mind state or county sources. But I don't have any particular need to research the matter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:40:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44EdqWm029212 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:40:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061B8B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:12:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:12:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44EC2QB012431 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:12:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2281183nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr90701nzb; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:12:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DcjRukyeu9cTP0lzOfpW9GTFONwO2Wv32Kb21SE5pMzfZms4VHZPMO6eO6NS4Rkgj+5AVmwUNx6/VWeux9KIQmi1lEdAnDTj4WTimbKB2FUJ9w8MYXOb1yepddMRMK8Q29zKcCbQcIT1NQgEiBykHHOOkfLTBxp1+/SddgM+dOc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050407127d2828ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:12:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night In-Reply-To: <200505041409.j44E9o1P011695@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505041409.j44E9o1P011695@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44EdqWm029212 On 5/4/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/4/2005, 5:51 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>They were all question marks. > >> > >> > NM> Not on my screen. They were apostrophes on my screen. > > Nor on mine. Natalie, maybe we both have mutant screens. > Whatever it is, is the same way at home and at work. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:40:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44EdqWn029219 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:40:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:40:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061B7E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:17:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:17:19 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44EHJpV014341 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:17:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18406757 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:33:11 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 4 May 2005 07:17:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:17:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <525863441.20050504081718@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: What a Night In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050407127d2828ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505041409.j44E9o1P011695@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705050407127d2828ab@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 187, in=64445, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Using what browser and what character set? 5/4/2005, 8:12 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> NM> Not on my screen. They were apostrophes on my screen. >> >> Nor on mine. Natalie, maybe we both have mutant screens. >> AFoA> Whatever it is, is the same way at home and at work. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:40:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44EdqWm029215 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:40:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061B952@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:09:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 526643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:09:51 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44E9o1P011695 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:09:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18702346 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:37:52 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 4 May 2005 07:10:09 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:09:50 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200505041409.j44E9o1P011695@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:09:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <667504936.20050504080948@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re[2]: What a Night Resent-from: Dan Lester MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 183, in=66172, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/4/2005, 5:51 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> A Friend of Andy wrote: >>They were all question marks. >> >> NM> Not on my screen. They were apostrophes on my screen. Nor on mine. Natalie, maybe we both have mutant screens. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:41:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44EfVWm029380 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:41:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:41:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061B89B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:41:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:41:31 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44EfU2q019215 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:41:31 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18538189 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:43:25 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 4 May 2005 07:41:51 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:41:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1258646592.20050504084130@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: What a Night In-Reply-To: <4278D8F3.1030304@maynor.net> References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> <1327241097.20050504071508@gailndan.com> <4278D4DB.7030004@maynor.net> <1406942304.20050504080854@gailndan.com> <4278D8F3.1030304@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 187, in=77062, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/4/2005, 8:15 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I don't think they were looking for a "different" name. Their other son NM> is named Robert. And I don't find Bonn all that weird a name actually. NM> It's true that I can't think of any other Bonns I've known, but it still NM> sounds to me -- doesn't leap out as A Strange Name. Well, not totally strange. Know the name Bonner as both a first and last name, though don't know any personally. May be biased on the Bonn as know several "Bon"s, all of whom are female. And two of the three insist they NEVER be called Bonnie or Bonita or anyything else but Bon. I understand that, as I'm same with Dan. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:43:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44EhHWm029703 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:43:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:43:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061B8A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:43:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:43:17 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j44EhGqT019474 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:43:16 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005050416361301760 for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:36:14 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.33] ([158.39.120.33]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 4 May 2005 16:37:05 +0200 Message-ID: <4278DE2E.2000001@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 16:37:34 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mo' pixtures References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2005 14:37:05.0421 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE23BBD0:01C550B6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber skrev 04.05.2005 14:47: >http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c526098.html > > > And the winner is the last one: digesting literature! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 09:48:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44EmIWm030341 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 09:48:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 09:48:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061B9D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:48:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 531421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:48:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44EmGcr020392 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:48:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2294704nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.3 with SMTP id k3mr97351nzk; Wed, 04 May 2005 07:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:48:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Jvg3k+1XU4BSRB+zo3Z0s8XilwJq4QCyctcvuPTd00p9vIAG61XW5nz6UAgpviJRiPc+iCQzNScy2KVGKSA5sBmXWZ9qvFNTcuCVtWwI6MCDZ1Ddvsz4OBg9ruXIurtu5b2peanpZYSg2Y6EB6qcltvc++D9hz/igV5ODtF4zNk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050504074820fc36a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:48:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a Night In-Reply-To: <4278D8F3.1030304@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42783730.5090509@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050319547d82b51e@mail.gmail.com> <42783CAD.60703@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505032101747e2e13@mail.gmail.com> <1327241097.20050504071508@gailndan.com> <4278D4DB.7030004@maynor.net> <1406942304.20050504080854@gailndan.com> <4278D8F3.1030304@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44EmIWm030341 But Bonn Camp sounds like Bonne Chance... On 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Dan Lester wrote: > > >Oh....BORN is the king of Israel.... right? > > > > > Yes. I wasn't there, but I gathered that was the point. > > >NM> But I assume that Bonn Camp is named for Dan's sister, Bonnie. > > > >So is his given name Bonn, or is it short for Bonner, or something > >else? > > > All I've ever heard is Bonn. > > > Or maybe they just wanted a "different" name and were a couple > >decades too early for Q'Juan'Ali'Ko or some such. > > > > > I don't think they were looking for a "different" name. Their other son > is named Robert. And I don't find Bonn all that weird a name actually. > It's true that I can't think of any other Bonns I've known, but it still > sounds to me -- doesn't leap out as A Strange Name. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 10:34:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44FYfWm005127 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:34:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 10:34:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061BA05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:14:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 535105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:14:40 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44FEeOp025126; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:14:40 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 56915419; Wed, 04 May 2005 08:14:40 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050504081350.00b660e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 08:14:39 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Mo' pixtures In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050504070437322382@mail.gmail.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I am happy that Mareebers beebers are so *happy*. They clearly only know a >world full of love and caring for *them*. > >Karen Yes! If only more (or all) children had this love. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 10:34:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44FYfWm005128 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:34:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 10:34:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061BB80@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:32:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 536973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:32:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44FWDPt028519 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:32:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2311138nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 08:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.3 with SMTP id k3mr104792nzk; Wed, 04 May 2005 08:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:32:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=j7GtRZxxzJ6geDu1ANybGB7zDkIOe7Ad0I707VeEK1w+Ss2q1uXOC/cykGeGqARCP1G/stL7Ik/Nf6xQYPqoCi7isM93sayRTUgiGP4rFiQdTj9c303YXRK8nMTKbcE5HpO26OZE1Lo0gK2lbinppRYDG2CfplO6EGGrjWXV24U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505040832a52a335@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:32:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mo' pixtures In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050504081350.00b660e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050504070437322382@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050504081350.00b660e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44FYfWm005128 On 5/4/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > >I am happy that Mareebers beebers are so *happy*. They clearly only know > a > >world full of love and caring for *them*. > > > >Karen > > Yes! If only more (or all) children had this love. > Yes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 10:52:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44FqSWm007793 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:52:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 10:52:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061BC9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:42:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:42:28 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44FgRZc030698 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:42:28 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 May 2005 11:42:27 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:42:14 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Syracuse in the news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU gotta be famous for something http://tinyurl.com/7fk6w BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 10:52:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44FqSWm007794 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 10:52:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 10:52:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061BC15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:47:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:47:59 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44Flwmp031538 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 11:47:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2317091nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 08:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.9 with SMTP id b9mr102838nzc; Wed, 04 May 2005 08:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:47:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VmOyZcsOF+rCsb0/wRdvnkE+9eIujIYKYczJPb0hpFCoEt4tr1dA0QvW3e9LFkOqp5Nxr86RxVT8hFokAYSeCoFtgXRbKckxsdxBJNp5n6QAtcUW9ZUl/4oEDc7gPXDBsZL/Tg7YfMrAHLDJRKp/vIu/7DVpAfg1N7TOLsydEg0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050504084748373ded@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:47:58 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Syracuse in the news In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44FqSWm007794 On 5/4/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > gotta be famous for something > > http://tinyurl.com/7fk6w Wow! More than 1000 pounds a day. That's impressive. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 14:52:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44JqPWm007966 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:52:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 14:52:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061C6F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:52:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 569398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:52:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44JqOAP007437 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:52:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2411476nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.1 with SMTP id l1mr137319nzl; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:52:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=V9z/ZN2kbxZ9LESDnx7gsW0RNVieX414aLia1QzPF0GK+1X4lrvkck3AgyUugw7Kn5yadZ4gm9lPqyFgS3E/P97C+ed7nQhWMEfWAgPrF+EfliqN+rAcdmCiWRVhwV1r8kH73R768UGLf3YycmyqZY/OT6XaQg1tfVIHabUY++s= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050504125216b422b4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:52:23 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Make Austin Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44JqPWm007966 Seems to be the new slogan... http://www.cafepress.com/austinnormal From spotlight3070@wxmail.biz Wed May 4 15:29:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from wxmail.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44KTUWn012889 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 15:29:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200505042029.j44KTUWn012889@gtoal.com> Received: from 209.203.195.54 ([209.203.195.54]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 15:29:39 CDT From: "Stock Spotlight" Subject: Underflowed stock lands contract with AOL To: words-l@gtoal.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: spotlight3070@wxmail.biz Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:29:30 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc. ( OTC PK : CYGT ) is our latest Hot Stock Pick !!! This Hot Penny Stock just went public, has a tight float and has reported substantial year over year revenues. The company is currently profitable and expects significant revenue growth in '05 and '06 based on a strong base of recurring revenues. Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc. ( OTC PK : CYGT) is an emerging growth company which provides ticketing, reservations and financial processing technology and services on a fee per transaction basis to the leisure and entertainment industry. Key clients include Universal Studios Theme Parks , Cedar Point Amusement Parks , Knotts Berry Farm, AAA and now America Online (AOL). Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc trades under the ticker symbol CYGT .

CYGT is priced at $0.70 cents. Look for large volume increases, followed by a sharp rise in share price. Don't Miss Out on the next BIG move!!!

Current price: $0.70 cents per share

Symbol:
Current Price 		CYGT
$0.70

For More Information visit: http://www.cygnus.com

Here is Why Cygnus is a potential winner

Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc. has 4 major fundamental investor facts speculative investors should take notice of:

•  Cygnus Reaches Financial Milestone in First Quarter 2005. Achieves Positive Cash Flow on Record Revenues : CYGT announced they have achieved positive cash flow for the first time as a result of record revenues. Revenues exceeded management projections. Company revenues for the first quarter rose by more than 30% when compared to the same period last year. Management anticipates record revenue generation during peak summer months.

•  Cygnus Announces deal with on-line behemoth America Online: Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc announced an agreement has been reached with American Online to provide theme park ticket sales throughout AOL â CitiGuide.

•  Strong Foothold : CYGT has a strong foothold in ticketing and reservations with big name clients such as Universal Studios Theme Parks as well as Cedar Fair L.P. (NYSE:“FUN”). Further, Cygnus believes there are NO competitors offering the full range of capabilities provided by Cygnus.

•  Financials : Company is Cash Flow Positive with Earnings Before Interest and Taxes (EBIT) estimated at $2.2 Million for ‘05. Audited Financials Anticipated to be Released within 60 Days.

The Company:
Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc. (OTC PK: CYGT) Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc. is an emerging growth company which provides ticketing, reservations and financial processing technology and services on fee per transaction basis to the leisure and entertainment industry. Key clients include Universal Studios Theme Parks, Cedar Point Amusement Park, Knotts Berry Farm and Summer Resorts.

Company Highlights:
Cygnus Reaches Financial Milestone in First Quarter 2005. Achieves Positive Cash Flow on Record Revenues: CYGT announced they have achieved positive cash flow for the first time as a result of record revenues that exceeded projections. Company revenues for the first quarter rose by more than 30 percent when compared to the same period last year. Management anticipates record revenue generation during peak summer months.

Cygnus Announces, Merger, and Stock Trading: Cygnus eTransactions Group, Inc announced it has merged with Cygnus Entertainment and initiated trading in April. The company seems to be well positioned and management has proven they can land the big clients with the likes of Universal Studios Theme Parks and AAA to name a few.

REASONS TO BUY THIS STOCK TODAY!!

1.) CYGT Reports profitable quarter in Q-1 '05 and maintains strong recurring revenue growth going forward. Company has maintained guidance for '05 to be cash flow positive with Earnings Before Interest and Taxes (EBIT) estimated at $2.2 Million. Audited Financials Anticipated to be Released in 60 Days.
2.) Management Preparing for Record Revenues During Peak Summer Months.
3.) CYGT Just Went Public and has a Tight Float. Tight Float Allows Increased Ability for Investors to Generate Large Profits Quickly!!
4.) Company Plans to Move to American Stock Exchange by Year End 2005.
5.) CYGT has Strong Foothold in Leisure and Entertainment Industry. Growing List of Clients Include Universal Studios Theme Parks, Cedar Point Amusement Park , Knotts Berry Farm, AAA and now even Americ Anline (AOL).

Investment Opinion:

Take advantage of current trading levels. This is a ground floor opportunity you can't afford to miss. At current price levels, a little bit of movement will go a long way.

Look for heavy volume and significant price increases in the short term. The price of CYGT is currently trading at $0.70. This is an inexpensive stock by anyone's standards. Don't Miss Out!!!

Current Price: $0.70 cents per share
Disclaimer
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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 16:18:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44LIVWm018674 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:18:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:18:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061C976@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:08:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:08:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44L8E3T019100 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:08:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2443837nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 14:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr158766nzu; Wed, 04 May 2005 14:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:08:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=n6c2+NdU4Pka9n4pJdTUwXkk7wRqWNSG5mb8xmV+SR55JegfBFBokcn3GpOIz/tNQVbuqBP21GVlfUEQfiw4UVxVi+TCzM+PuLWFR9ljusoJQ/cb9QcLdUX9HlgkSUFQu2ZXuOK/0ScuDOeGgJ8rLBgSFWFutBlEiO7rT8wVEE4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050414085e2b518c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:08:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Emmett Till Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44LIVWm018674 They are digging him up to see if there's any evidence that will allow them to indict someone else. I think I'm not in favor of this. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 16:20:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44LKqWm018920 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:20:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:20:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061C9BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:20:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:20:51 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j44LAodw019514 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:10:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 49510 invoked by uid 1003); 4 May 2005 21:10:50 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:10:50 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Message-ID: <20050504211050.GA48971@words-l.org> References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> <009101c54f88$fdee8120$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a7050502201661fb7c3f@mail.gmail.com> <20050503124234.GA36497@words-l.org> <006901c5502a$821c7a00$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <006901c5502a$821c7a00$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:53:12PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > >>Chopped Liver > > > >Being in Real Chicago [tm], I have seen this behavior countless > >times, but you must have seen it in an animal documentary or two? > >Insult a Real Chicago [tm] man mildly, and he will growl and bare > >his teeth in whatever way that comes easiest to him. Insult him > >beyond a certain point and he is a subservient b-tch. > > Good thing I am not from BitChicago. Ah, but you are! > Oh, the incessant lame incompleteness of Wordslur lives... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 16:21:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44LLZWm018994 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:21:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:21:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061C91A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:21:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:21:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j44LBVDa019635 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:11:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 49850 invoked by uid 1003); 4 May 2005 21:11:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:11:31 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Osama bin Laden dead... or near capture? Message-ID: <20050504211131.GB48971@words-l.org> References: <0b4c01c54f1f$b7677b80$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <1482309853.20050502090935@gailndan.com> <0b9d01c54f32$11ca5900$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a70505020931121bf181@mail.gmail.com> <009101c54f88$fdee8120$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a7050502201661fb7c3f@mail.gmail.com> <20050503124234.GA36497@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050503151431823377@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050503151431823377@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:14:46PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/3/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:16:54PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > >>Of course you would; to you, information is large smelly laundry. > > > > >>That web is a jihadist web, and the report is proprietary. > > > > > > > > > > In other words, the reporter doesn't think that his report would > > > > > stand up under the public scrutiny that it would get by being > > > > > linked to from, say, the Drudge Report. > > > > > > > > > > Ken Miller > > > > > Jeff Gannon School of Journalism > > > > > > > > No Ken, honestly, let's back channel tomorrow... I'll try and > > > > write you then. > > > > > > Oh, Ken insults you even more than I did and you want to backchannel > > > with him?! > > > > > > Jeeze. > > > > > > Chopped Liver > > > > Being in Real Chicago [tm], I have seen this behavior countless > > times, but you must have seen it in an animal documentary or two? > > Insult a Real Chicago [tm] man mildly, and he will growl and bare > > his teeth in whatever way that comes easiest to him. Insult him > > beyond a certain point and he is a subservient b-tch. > > > > Excellent point. > > Does this mean you're my bitch? Nobody is a bitch of someone who says "excellent point". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 16:26:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44LQPWm019487 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:26:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:26:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061C91A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:26:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:26:24 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j44LGNUw020428 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:16:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 53251 invoked by uid 1003); 4 May 2005 21:16:23 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:16:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal Message-ID: <20050504211623.GC48971@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050504125216b422b4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050504125216b422b4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 02:52:23PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Seems to be the new slogan... > > http://www.cafepress.com/austinnormal Never have I felt so little for both sides! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 16:35:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44LZjWm020588 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:35:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:35:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061CC2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:35:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 578850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:35:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44LZigF022748 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:35:44 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2454364nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 14:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.1 with SMTP id l1mr168574nzl; Wed, 04 May 2005 14:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:35:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aBZNwnKZczsU9+tWuvEHxuF56f8dRBhHmwL1Aw0RMKxPZMsfky6akQhTWJVbKwucX/hzQGXD6RmNxpkr1i3VOFLuzYQqcBEPBZXlIb2R7calctFLT/Nu+4SydjodJmKJQEuAJt6khdcnnGwI4n3mNxKmjn7fc/dKqzBSVpro2Mk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505041435f717b79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:35:44 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal In-Reply-To: <20050504211623.GC48971@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050504125216b422b4@mail.gmail.com> <20050504211623.GC48971@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44LZjWm020588 On 5/4/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 02:52:23PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Seems to be the new slogan... > > > > http://www.cafepress.com/austinnormal > > Never have I felt so little for both sides! > What about the last election? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 16:41:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44LfbWm021077 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:41:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:41:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061CDBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:41:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 579365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:41:37 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44LfaXj023399 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:41:36 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 May 2005 17:41:36 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:41:09 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The election for Mayor of Starkville? BrP Diegetic Mutant Hog : > Never have I felt so little for both sides! > innervator@GMAIL.COM > >What about the last election? Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 16:52:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44LqdWm022639 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:52:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:52:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061CD31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:52:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 579894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:52:38 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44LqcDf024433 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:52:38 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F4541F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:52:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200505042152.j44LqcDf024433@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:52:38 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I made it through Presentation Day. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 17:09:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44M95Wm025137 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:09:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 17:09:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061CD7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:02:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 580639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:02:20 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44M2KOk025402 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:02:20 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 May 2005 18:02:20 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:01:53 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU YaY BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 05/04/05 5:52 PM >>> I made it through Presentation Day. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 17:09:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44M95Wm025136 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:09:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 17:09:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061CC4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:59:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 580273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:59:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44LxTGn025033 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:59:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2462865nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 14:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr178161nzb; Wed, 04 May 2005 14:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 14:59:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZwQ+xNHEeGNLmc1F2pjXGsU4KbVCL7xdJHkDz1r3tKbW6PLGeensYv/bN+jd0YKmgoDwCFjpGmw573C+Lqe5OGy1XIY1duV01y57fg4IwKu+a30ey5VIFPt0hxPV7ltAjyZ3A0O4I3QxfGcTcHB+B6wmCoZbnDVn9+80PkXvRTM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050414592b6848c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:59:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal In-Reply-To: <200505042152.j44LqcDf024433@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505042152.j44LqcDf024433@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44M95Wm025136 On 5/4/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > I made it through Presentation Day. Did you present? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 17:09:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44M95Wm025135 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:09:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 17:09:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061CD56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:59:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 580254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:59:04 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44Lx4gG025004 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:59:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.47.46]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504215904.QZSG2148.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:59:04 -0400 Message-ID: <427945A7.3000300@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 16:59:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till References: <8ddfc8a705050414085e2b518c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050414085e2b518c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >They are digging him up to see if there's any evidence that will allow them >to indict someone else. > >I think I'm not in favor of this. > > Why are you not in favor of it? If it upsets his family members, I'm not sure I think it would be worth it. Iow, I don't think the slim chance of finding useful evidence in a body that long dead would be worth traumatizing his family members. But if they don't mind, then it strikes me as a good thing to do. Maybe the chances of finding something are better than they seem to my unknowledgeable-of-bodies brain. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 17:37:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44MawWm028408 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 17:36:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 17:37:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061CD21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:36:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 581827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:36:58 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44MQwBW027707 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:26:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.47.46]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050504222658.GDVZ1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:26:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42794C31.2080706@ra.msstate.edu> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:26:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Quacking Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why do duck quacks not echo? -- -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 18:26:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44NQBWm001919 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:26:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 18:26:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061D008@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:26:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 587764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:26:10 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44NG95h003835 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:16:10 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j44NFbxc009627 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:15:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:16:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: re Quacking Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie asked: Why do duck quacks not echo? Wrong list, IMO. The Anglican list discussed this at great length over many, many months several years ago. A sample post (actually, not a sample - one of the best) is at http://mail.stsams.org/pipermail/anglican_stsams.org/2005-January/020288.html Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 18:27:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44NQBWn001919 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:26:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 18:27:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061D00A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:26:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 588388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:26:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44NQgbE004989 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:26:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2489392nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.16 with SMTP id h16mr202589nzc; Wed, 04 May 2005 16:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 16:26:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GNoUyd4RaoA6JLLl2xO5tGANGadG9z/mIcXH1LuOnuHeuhaQoaw5B+5gS/KetqZKUEDKixJkAzMVpWgygGL8rEO+VPE2g2euAycj+hAklaqjf8v85NBNCFmz4WdKhQu1Tou8F+7bgsLGGD1kNRz9MB8ofG9YGb0hzqlqb1zcFxU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050504162629b3017d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:26:42 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quacking In-Reply-To: <42794C31.2080706@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42794C31.2080706@ra.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j44NQBWn001919 AFAIK, they do. On 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Why do duck quacks not echo? > -- > -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 18:31:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44NVYWm002421 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:31:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 18:31:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061D01E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:31:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 588676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:31:33 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44NVS5W005469 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:31:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F45813@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:31:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200505042331.j44NVS5W005469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:31:28 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:59:28 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/4/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> I made it through Presentation Day. > > >Did you present? No, I shepherded. 53 Thesis students presented. I ran technical in the Creative/Performance room, produced the brochure for the event, oversaw the schedule, did Thesis intake, uploaded abstracts, assigned readers to vet the theses, attended an art opening, and maybe another one tonight. Simultaneously reading apps from incoming 1st-years, uploading their stats, rebuilding part of the database, checking matriculations and coding accepts in the system, giving advice, running certification checks, handing out kleenex, and trying to find out if one of our workstudies made it out of Ecuador safely on Fri. I worked 8 hrs on our anniversary, which wouldn't be remarkable if it wasn't Sunday, as part of a 70-hr 7-day week. My hours are approaching yours, Karen. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 18:32:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j44NWdWm002594 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:32:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 18:32:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061D02B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:32:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 588821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:32:39 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j44NWbFt005697 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:32:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F45872@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:32:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200505042332.j44NWbFt005697@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:32:37 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 4 May 2005 18:01:53 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >YaY > >BrP > >Paul Barfoot >Special Collections Research Center >Syracuse University Library >>>> clostran@SYR.EDU 05/04/05 5:52 PM >>> >I made it through Presentation Day. >clo Lunch tomorrow? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 19:49:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j450nXWm012460 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:49:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 19:49:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061D223@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:49:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:49:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j450nXDs013045 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:49:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:49:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:49:01 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cool want me to make the call? >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 05/04/05 7:32 PM >>> Lunch tomorrow? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 19:54:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j450saWm013159 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:54:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 19:54:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061D41A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:54:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:54:36 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j450sZWN013580 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:54:35 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F45C39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:54:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200505050054.j450sZWN013580@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 20:54:33 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Los Dos Molinos! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Our Favorite Restaurant (x4) is the lead story in today's food section of The Arizona Republic! http://www.azcentral.com/home/food/mexico/articles/0504molinos0504.html Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 19:56:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j450uiWm013417 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:56:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 19:56:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061D379@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:56:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:56:44 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j450ugvi013795 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:56:42 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 100027979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 04 May 2005 17:56:41 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050504175707.027d0530@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:57:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Heads or tails? At 05:49 PM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >cool >want me to make the call? > > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 05/04/05 7:32 PM >>> >Lunch tomorrow? >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 20:18:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j451IRWm016540 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:18:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:18:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061D2C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:08:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:08:28 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4518Rum014980 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:08:27 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 May 2005 21:08:27 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:07:57 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU are those the only choices? Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 05/04/05 8:57 PM >>> Heads or tails? At 05:49 PM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >cool >want me to make the call? > > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 05/04/05 7:32 PM >>> >Lunch tomorrow? >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 20:18:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j451IRWm016537 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:18:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:18:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061D3D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:08:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:08:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4518KVv014962 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:08:20 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F45D20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:08:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 21:08:20 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Emmett Till To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 4 May 2005 16:59:03 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Why are you not in favor of it? If it upsets his family members, I'm >not sure I think it would be worth it. Iow, I don't think the slim >chance of finding useful evidence in a body that long dead would be >worth traumatizing his family members. But if they don't mind, then it >strikes me as a good thing to do. Maybe the chances of finding >something are better than they seem to my unknowledgeable-of-bodies brain. If, at Emmett Till's family's request, having an open casket, having thousands of people view the body, and having photographs appear in publications didn't traumatize the family back then, I doubt if exhuming his remains would now. Powerful images, indeed. Who knows? Something might turn up. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 20:18:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j451IRWm016541 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:18:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:18:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061D2CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:10:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 598087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:10:26 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j451AP39015166 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:10:25 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 100030759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 04 May 2005 18:10:24 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050504181043.02672090@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:10:57 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes. At 06:07 PM 5/4/2005, you wrote: >are those the only choices? > >Paul Barfoot >Special Collections Research Center >Syracuse University Library > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 05/04/05 8:57 PM >>> >Heads or tails? > >At 05:49 PM 5/4/2005, you wrote: > >cool > >want me to make the call? > > > > > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 05/04/05 7:32 PM >>> > >Lunch tomorrow? > >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 20:29:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j451TeWm018019 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:29:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:29:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F45E6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:29:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 600471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:29:33 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j451TWf8017278 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:29:32 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EE1BE8C4 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 18:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <42794C31.2080706@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:29:19 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Quacking Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 3:26 PM -0700 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Why do duck quacks not echo? Did you know that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary? Ken Miller Snopes School of Information Sciences From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 20:51:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j451pGWm020648 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:51:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:51:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F45EB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:41:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 601647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:41:08 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j451f8l6018535 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:41:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.127.12]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505014108.SRSV2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:41:08 -0400 Message-ID: <427979AD.1060205@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:41:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re Quacking References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >A sample post (actually, not a sample - one of the best) is at >http://mail.stsams.org/pipermail/anglican_stsams.org/2005-January/020288.html > > Thanks. I glanced at it but deemed it TMI. I was looking for a sentence or two or three. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 20:54:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j451sEWm021017 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:54:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:54:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061D54A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:44:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 601868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:44:13 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j451iDX2018898 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:44:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.127.12]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505014413.STRV2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:44:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42797A68.5030004@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:44:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quacking References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >>Why do duck quacks not echo? >> >> >Did you know that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary? > > No, I thought it was. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 21:28:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j452SdWm025609 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:28:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 21:28:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061D677@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:28:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 604248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:28:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j452ScIb022764 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:28:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2536268nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 19:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.16 with SMTP id h16mr218993nzc; Wed, 04 May 2005 19:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:28:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fCRZWkpb1d96U4vBe+n0kuRlw45WUsBcTwbxE8YzPzHN65hf7hch9hKJ6VVLDDoPg139S8k/zgaJB/vZ+lq5PO8QXmcf980/RmB14Rk846wVtjNUF+uGgvFHSpjab+8Qwd/LoDbO5Oj2/VpatSisxHcrXfe/OnbBFFr+PqQriFI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050419283392539@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 21:28:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Make Austin Normal In-Reply-To: <200505042331.j44NVS5W005469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505042331.j44NVS5W005469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j452SdWm025609 On 5/4/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > I worked 8 hrs on our anniversary, which wouldn't be > remarkable if it wasn't Sunday, as part of a 70-hr > 7-day week. My hours are approaching yours, Karen. Gah. I draw the line at 60 hours. But week after week, it's wearing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 21:35:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j452ZaWm026386 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:35:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 21:35:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061D69D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:35:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 604677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:35:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j452ZY6o023330 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:35:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2537946nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 19:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.11 with SMTP id a11mr220428nzc; Wed, 04 May 2005 19:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:35:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AOWWmNIzrcqBrC8J/63NPyeMvGW4FhFX/+zOvkwcV45DpdLcDIN8LB7pgf0MHDxqD0+ssBKu04oo61dfMQME1gIhJ1BxxsTbESi8VBppvZNI54N5NkBp03ZnsmBnJlUtBj8T20Ai79mAPpIpDRe8FdaQtXXIXYAGdgG43IYYZ9E= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505041935594c389@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 21:35:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j452ZaWm026386 On 5/4/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > > Who knows? Something might turn up. > Well, jeeze. Let me state publicly now that if I am murdered, please don't dig my body up 50 years later on the basis of "something might turn up". I really don't care that much. I haven't seen any rationale for the exhumation other than "something might turn up", and I don't think that's good enough. I want to know what's behind this. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 21:39:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j452dBWm026750 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:39:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 21:39:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061D75C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:39:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 604823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:39:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j452d1WH023590 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:39:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2538718nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 19:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.20 with SMTP id o20mr220758nzo; Wed, 04 May 2005 19:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:39:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b0+YRe0KPhWW4PLAb7KkCLcRVq/FxjnJoXDQu4DCeLtxp0B8GCJU1HoWqFqn39bCVEIUz4o8DF58BoFrrFXAgLnGrUIILjL1pa0Kz0BxqdcKv+buY5mD6jwuAkvL9CWsd0Ad1fFn7/Z8xV3WPcUPgbO2BygBaPuPbjbK9JTPQ7Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050419392f08c99e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 21:39:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <427945A7.3000300@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050414085e2b518c@mail.gmail.com> <427945A7.3000300@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j452dBWm026750 On 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Why are you not in favor of it? Because I have no reason to believe that they are going to find anything on anyone who is still alive. It seems a low RO on a high-cost I. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 21:51:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j452pjWm028341 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 21:51:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 21:51:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061D5FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:51:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 605720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:51:44 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j452pbJZ024704 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:51:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.127.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505025137.MWDP1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:51:37 -0400 Message-ID: <42798A36.4000802@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:51:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505041935594c389@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505041935594c389@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/4/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > > >>Who knows? Something might turn up. >> >> > >Well, jeeze. Let me state publicly now that if I am murdered, please don't >dig my body up 50 years later on the basis of "something might turn up". I >really don't care that much. > > Why would you not want your body dug up? I don't want to be buried at all -- I hope to be cremated, so I can't speak to whether I would want my body dug up. But I'm guessing that if I had been murdered and happened to have been buried that I would want my body dug up if it could help catch the murderers. I'm guessing that Emmett's mother would feel the same way if she were still alive since she was pushing for re-examination of the case for many years and since she was the one who wanted the casket open at the funeral for people to see the beat-up body. She's dead now, but I haven't read or heard anything about other family members being against the exhuming. >I haven't seen any rationale for the exhumation other than "something might >turn up", and I don't think that's good enough. I want to know what's behind >this. > > I thought the point was that an autopsy needed to be done for legal reasons -- that it's harder to prosecute if no autopsy was done to show cause of death. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 22:06:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45362Wm030478 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:06:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:06:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061D636@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:58:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 606276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:58:10 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j452w7Tv025243 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:58:09 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 5ED91BE8C9; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D575C284A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:58:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: another url post Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Do you think these are bats? Or what. http://www.enchantedceiling.com/HLVSQGXP37 Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 22:06:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45362Wm030479 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:06:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:06:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061D7CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:56:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 605941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:56:01 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j452u1bu025026 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:56:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.127.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505025601.MYVA1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:56:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42798B40.1030405@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:56:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till References: <8ddfc8a705050414085e2b518c@mail.gmail.com> <427945A7.3000300@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050419392f08c99e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050419392f08c99e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>Why are you not in favor of it? >> >> > > >Because I have no reason to believe that they are going to find anything on >anyone who is still alive. > > I've read/heard something about fingerprints, though I don't think that means on the body. >It seems a low RO on a high-cost I. > > As I said earlier, I also think it sounds like a long shot and that I would think it would not be in order if the family might be traumatized. But if the family is ok with it (he had a brother, iirc -- can't remember what other family, family that is still alive), I'm for it. Or do you mean by cost the cost of the process? I am for it even if it costs a bunch. Our money is spent in many less serious ways. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 22:06:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45362Wm030481 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:06:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:06:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F462A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:05:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 609941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:05:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4535w1O027010 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:05:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2545314nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.8 with SMTP id t8mr227967nzt; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:05:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Kc6UlnsUltFK/J2DdjGtWOFVjQn/PBb5w+H0a2lhlyUXnb2ZfUSY+wNF5ghmzrpg8pXK6+MzlDOMfzHpQzsqd2HntBSiQN8jRbBUNx9e+PgSTIfQt8QzdQrWoli7q89/ZqIpOyQeZX6iZzlrHTVU1e/zhpObJhHc5qVfGT90XpA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505042005563d55f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:05:58 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <42798B40.1030405@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050414085e2b518c@mail.gmail.com> <427945A7.3000300@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050419392f08c99e@mail.gmail.com> <42798B40.1030405@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45362Wm030481 I'm taking back my objection. I just started reading a NYT article, and they pointed out that the cause of death had never been determined. Karen On 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >On 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > > >>Why are you not in favor of it? > >> > >> > > > > > >Because I have no reason to believe that they are going to find anything > on > >anyone who is still alive. > > > > > I've read/heard something about fingerprints, though I don't think that > means on the body. > > >It seems a low RO on a high-cost I. > > > > > As I said earlier, I also think it sounds like a long shot and that I > would think it would not be in order if the family might be > traumatized. But if the family is ok with it (he had a brother, iirc -- > can't remember what other family, family that is still alive), I'm for > it. Or do you mean by cost the cost of the process? I am for it even > if it costs a bunch. Our money is spent in many less serious ways. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 22:32:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j453WcWm001177 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:32:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:32:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061DA25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:12:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:12:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j453Cabo027496 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:12:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2546909nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr227243nzb; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iaTXZmfSRtsc0240MINohw8hxDhFqMdoFDA2piJDINIIXwDkb9brLID/PhstyIsLogVy4be/fK0drVtX+YbNKKoQG5L3HGzUQTE8WyWFXf6hlQh8WNOySMe0UHFpLX9oysl/9CurDreFysJ/ZO8m1S76Dx3o6t3bX6/NOHFHFXw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505042012d4f8df7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:12:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <42798B40.1030405@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050414085e2b518c@mail.gmail.com> <427945A7.3000300@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050419392f08c99e@mail.gmail.com> <42798B40.1030405@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j453WcWm001177 On 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > But if the family is ok with it (he had a brother, iirc -- > can't remember what other family, family that is still alive), His mother is dead; he was an only child. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 4 22:32:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j453WcWm001178 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 22:32:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 22:32:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061D9A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:16:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:16:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j453Gbae027876 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:16:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2547981nzp for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.16 with SMTP id h16mr223035nzc; Wed, 04 May 2005 20:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 20:16:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UfDwQfak8/u/79sbZ3anLnIeI0PMkt6n/Ah8iNDYMZmozEOx7fJ3RnxoaLauw0p277Hlo4bv6SIOHxKhbupeOBGbv90NA8nhrigwA3eggVPB8pH+Rsl/rYUZYoiebnZdOgmryXcklZY7hDfdBAEx6eAfM7nU+sfzyRiMdmtf8DQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050420161dce496c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:16:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <42798A36.4000802@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505041935594c389@mail.gmail.com> <42798A36.4000802@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j453WcWm001178 On 5/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I thought the point was that an autopsy needed to be done for legal > reasons -- that it's harder to prosecute if no autopsy was done to show > cause of death. > Whatever article I read this afternoon before I made my post didn't present it that way. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 02:04:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4574NWm000892 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 02:04:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 02:04:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061DF64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 2:54:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 628545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 02:54:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j456sMYc014122 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 02:54:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so514596wri for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 23:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.112.16 with SMTP id k16mr37012wrc; Wed, 04 May 2005 23:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 23:54:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YdU7rZlfHP+iObCcHos2ViJG6C84Nd5fZYt17Vl7GcOnZBwo0SplIb4LDfOP8KA56ZbeNd3lAXWhKGV+q3nQdjK2dTKg+4HusNheNRPsGgtq+6NRzJzCI1veUW30FZXUkK5YJjeMMXQUt/eNUln4bwoJORczhgmNRXxmeLa+3sQ= Message-ID: <83db447a050504235443c2955c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:54:21 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: Much better, or Hammerfest, here we come Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4574NWm000892 The legs at the beginning of our return trip went more smoothly than they had the day before. We were running with the seas rather than against them and it seemed that the wind had sudsided just a bit. Lots of new faces courtesy of Kirkenes. Apparently some sort of tour group came aboard there. Kirkenes was still wintry; still snow, slowly melting in the town. We walked in from the dock, hit the apotek, a yarn store, and the food market, then walked back past the WWII bomb shelters and the monument to the Russian soldiers who liberated the town. Last fall, we left Kirkenes in rain and fog. This time, it was sunny, although quite breezy, and I spent the time until we reached the open sea up on deck 9. The landscape as one leaves Kirkeness is striking---very rocky and mostly bare, except for small stands of what probably are birch in the sheltered small valleys. With the snow still in these valleys, the dark trunks of the bare birches give these areas a 5 o'clok shadow appearance. There was an early morning excursion to the North Cape; they will catch up with us at Hammerfest around 1000. After that, we continue south into the Lofotens then the Lyng Alps. The Lyng Alps in the evening sun (sunset is hardly an operable concept now) are magnificent. Also looking forward to the approach to, and the traversal of, the Raftsundet---the strait through the Lofotens---and another peek at the Trollfjord, although I suspect that we will not stop, this time. Two observations: 1. Dark, 85% cocoa, milk (lactose) free chocolate goes very well with a little Irish malt and some black coffee. 2. With the advent of low-rise jeans, plumber's butt is no longer a uniquely male phenomenon. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 06:30:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45BULWm012102 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:30:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:30:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F4705F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 7:20:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 637367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:20:20 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45BAJMi021771 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:10:19 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j45B9kiR027549 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:09:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 07:10:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: re Quacking Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: "Thanks. I glanced at it but deemed it TMI. I was looking for a sentence or two or three." It's really not that simple. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 06:35:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45BYuWm012632 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:34:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:35:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F47162@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 7:34:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 638984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:34:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45BYt3m024387 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:34:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2667612nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 04:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.3 with SMTP id a3mr259318nzc; Thu, 05 May 2005 04:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 04:34:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=D9y8tbmQNsDa2jAX1otqMaFt4sMesIVgVCmAq/VzXBkIgA9GkVDcQ3NsbpwoDcKUOAWw7XY05RNyK3mYf2x/CEqS5UpJdif1cZJFF/ZRJPkVt2aJZGcLYR56EuM+Wrqya21efbf7enaZYApISRDuCVrtAyOwEeLoNrSe4V8Npns= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050505043443c086f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 06:34:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re Quacking In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45BYuWm012632 On 5/5/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > Natalie: "Thanks. I glanced at it but deemed it TMI. I was looking for a > sentence or two or three." > > It's really not that simple. Sure it is: They do echo. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 06:54:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45BsJWm015452 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:54:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:54:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F4734C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 7:54:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 642733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:54:17 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45BsHB6027054 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:54:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.175]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505115417.EAHQ2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:54:17 -0400 Message-ID: <427A0963.4040805@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 06:54:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till References: <8ddfc8a705050414085e2b518c@mail.gmail.com> <427945A7.3000300@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050419392f08c99e@mail.gmail.com> <42798B40.1030405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505042012d4f8df7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505042012d4f8df7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>But if the family is ok with it (he had a brother, iirc -- >>can't remember what other family, family that is still alive), >> >> >His mother is dead; he was an only child. > > I've seen some kind of male relative talking about him on tv. Must have been a cousin or uncle. Maybe it was the cousin he was visiting in Mississippi. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 06:57:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45BvcWm015814 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:57:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:57:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F4735F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 7:57:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 642985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:57:38 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45BvcEU027332 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:57:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.175]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505115738.EBSO2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:57:38 -0400 Message-ID: <427A0A30.1080401@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 06:57:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re Quacking References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Natalie: "Thanks. I glanced at it but deemed it TMI. I was looking for a >sentence or two or three." > >It's really not that simple. > > What isn't? Echoing quacks? I just got the snopes url from another Wordsler. It's quite simple: > Claim: A duck's quack doesn't echo, and no one knows why. > > Status: False. > from: http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/duckecho.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 07:05:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45C4wWm017014 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:05:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:05:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F4740C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 8:04:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 644396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:04:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45C4wvM028286 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:04:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2677106nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 05:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr258680nzb; Thu, 05 May 2005 05:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:04:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YvQZqLzvxVD9djejEqoplZJ1pww7Wo+pcxB7SZXlIdzbzJs6nPgyzpqO7d7tMifFmnLHfXbBl2N1DKhHMnimp/82vUKrwVN4TBZfmH7ioPycYjtbZyomGFoBfu69aigWzOs3YIpPhxcEviA+hH36zOiMR7b2hvx5L7VtlOfVZWc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505050504226a1f1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 07:04:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re Quacking In-Reply-To: <427A0A30.1080401@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427A0A30.1080401@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45C4wWm017014 I think that this is key: "Also, a quack is a fading sound. It has a gradual decay, so it's hard to tell the difference between the actual quack and the echo." Were you really sucked in by this, Natalie? Did you ever think that a duck's quack didn't echo? Karen On 5/5/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > >Natalie: "Thanks. I glanced at it but deemed it TMI. I was looking for a > >sentence or two or three." > > > >It's really not that simple. > > > > > What isn't? Echoing quacks? I just got the snopes url from another > Wordsler. It's quite simple: > > > Claim: A duck's quack doesn't echo, and no one knows why. > > > > Status: False. > > > from: http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/duckecho.htm > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 07:16:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45CFnWm018402 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:15:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:16:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061E62C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 8:05:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 644553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:05:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45C5mR7028445 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:05:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2677355nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 05:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr258434nzb; Thu, 05 May 2005 05:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:05:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gNOMDOiIq1XfZyRKrDAYoAfjQifJVgiNoD78DiPEB8+SfiuYBCbu9Jd+EeK7AN+TTPbIZ5HBIvVC6ZTRKWx3WuHDKq4WiLmHqLwZc7Xu8V62WCORRnhnCMOFS4lK4Wowbjxsa3/GChoLk/MCSXUtFl43xgE1eZ2xALXMm1Mwg7Y= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050505050557798bd3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 07:05:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <427A0963.4040805@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050414085e2b518c@mail.gmail.com> <427945A7.3000300@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050419392f08c99e@mail.gmail.com> <42798B40.1030405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505042012d4f8df7@mail.gmail.com> <427A0963.4040805@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45CFnWm018402 On 5/5/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I've seen some kind of male relative talking about him on tv. Must have > been a cousin or uncle. Maybe it was the cousin he was visiting in > Mississippi. Maybe. All I know is, it wasn't his brother. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 07:32:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45CWUWm020597 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:32:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:32:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061EAD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 8:32:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 650856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:32:24 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45CW5Zp032584 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:32:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.175]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505123205.ZZGV2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:32:05 -0400 Message-ID: <427A1243.9070607@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 07:32:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re Quacking References: <427A0A30.1080401@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505050504226a1f1d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505050504226a1f1d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Were you really sucked in by this, Natalie? Did you ever think that a duck's >quack didn't echo? > > I wouldn't say I was exactly sucked in -- I didn't think about it much one way or the other -- just thought it was a funny statement for somebody to make and thus forwarded it to Words-L, feeling confident that somebody would respond that it was a myth. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 07:35:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45CZnWm021112 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:35:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:35:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061EA5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 8:35:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 651414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:35:48 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45CZmni000757 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:35:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.175]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505123548.CJS2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:35:48 -0400 Message-ID: <427A1323.10305@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 07:35:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till References: <8ddfc8a705050414085e2b518c@mail.gmail.com> <427945A7.3000300@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050419392f08c99e@mail.gmail.com> <42798B40.1030405@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505042012d4f8df7@mail.gmail.com> <427A0963.4040805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050505050557798bd3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050505050557798bd3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>I've seen some kind of male relative talking about him on tv. Must have >>been a cousin or uncle. Maybe it was the cousin he was visiting in >>Mississippi. >> >> >Maybe. All I know is, it wasn't his brother. > > Probably it was the relative he was visiting. I remember thinking how odd it was to be looking at the face of a middle-aged man who was the contemporary of this little boy. Whoever it was had been with him in the store that day -- which again makes it likely it was the cousin he was visiting, though it could have been just a friend. When I hear of Money, Mississippi, I of course think first of Emmett Till. But the second thing I think of was a person I knew from there whose name was Penny Nichols. It was kind of funny to be Penny Nichols of Money. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 07:47:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45ClaWm022599 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:47:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:47:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061EA05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 8:47:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 652991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:47:35 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45ClZ5J002199 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:47:35 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j45ClY7Q030248 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:47:35 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j45CkHLT018476 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:46:19 -0400 Message-ID: <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Emmett Till Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:46:17 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Williams" > If, at Emmett Till's family's request, having an open casket, having > thousands of people view the body, and having photographs appear in > publications didn't traumatize the family back then, I doubt if exhuming > his remains would now. > > Powerful images, indeed. > > Who knows? Something might turn up. > > Amy Yes... you know they braced themselves, knowing all the while that the horror would shock a nation. They martyred him appropriately, imho... the poor kid. What was he? 14 years old? 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 08:34:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45DXsWm029206 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:33:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 08:33:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F47A7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 9:33:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 657387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:33:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45DWnIf008708 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:32:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2707988nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr267101nzb; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:32:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gQ37nx1FM7rJ8AFLRoraxkb3uQAfYOw3yvIOXalLPmik5lhIOLU+zLhPUwP7oAG/LqmBl7uSWKHuzTZEg6VXX667doRdYwevZbLTftsMTFDjN4jjqFuriIhzc7e6eOn1nshF1QRgvnUGBw+pN5cMxuoNso6wWxJmHIyKubk0xUw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:32:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45DXsWm029206 On 5/5/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mrs. Williams" > > If, at Emmett Till's family's request, having an open casket, having > > thousands of people view the body, and having photographs appear in > > publications didn't traumatize the family back then, I doubt if exhuming > > his remains would now. > > > > Powerful images, indeed. > > > > Who knows? Something might turn up. > > > > Amy > > Yes... you know they braced themselves, knowing all the while that the > horror would shock a nation. They martyred him appropriately, imho... WTF?! the > poor kid. What was he? 14 years old? > Some reports say 14, some say 15. I suspect he was in his 15th year but hadn't had his birthday yet. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 08:34:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45DXuWm029210 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:33:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 08:34:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F47A47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 9:33:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 657446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:33:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45DXlrN008787 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:33:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2708459nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.4 with SMTP id h4mr264127nzb; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MeMeeesPNx2s+IpppvMQliu4H90/bBcLkJ7ga+wBLULpNQnMh04OBOpdW9+p8G70jZrz7GVI7Xo3cnbBIHKPAjVgc9Qqu+EP891GWfExrf/Fn1Wsku5IzpeI7kboIyCQGCUsQXst/5nhbNC/dJ8CLLCulhm+19wGF4kdIWO40tI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050506334ed79387@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:33:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re Quacking In-Reply-To: <427A1243.9070607@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427A0A30.1080401@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505050504226a1f1d@mail.gmail.com> <427A1243.9070607@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45DXuWm029210 Ah. I wouldn't even give it myth status. I'd say it's a stupid statement. On 5/5/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >Were you really sucked in by this, Natalie? Did you ever think that a > duck's > >quack didn't echo? > > > > > I wouldn't say I was exactly sucked in -- I didn't think about it much > one way or the other -- just thought it was a funny statement for > somebody to make and thus forwarded it to Words-L, feeling confident > that somebody would respond that it was a myth. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 08:36:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45DaOWm029565 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:36:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 08:36:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061EDA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 9:36:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 657721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:36:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45DaOLW009198 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:36:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so680795wri for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.84.2 with SMTP id h2mr197211wrb; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:36:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ms8QHj9HsJFYYT9Rh2yIib6GNa6/vUx5sqs+F54tUvDIeE1VXuZsXKA8+wMjTM8r8GDZ/5w6I9zRbhflIs0U6Q5NvbdOuccRhhRYIgjOkv3lYB7nlfTi1+4Unop4v2os8ohK6KBpTNDsEyyT2CQgfU60qYZwU4Lu287W1XAHfKU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:36:23 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Los Dos Molinos! In-Reply-To: <200505050054.j450sZWN013580@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050054.j450sZWN013580@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45DaOWm029565 Next year the MLA annual meeting (my MLA) is in Phoenix. I hope I can persuade you and Mr. Williams to join me for a meal at LDM -- so ya'll can set me straight. Marie On 5/4/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > > Our Favorite Restaurant (x4) is the lead story in today's food section of > The Arizona Republic! > > http://www.azcentral.com/home/food/mexico/articles/0504molinos0504.html > > Amy > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 08:44:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45DiHWm030870 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 08:44:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 08:44:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061ED2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 9:44:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 658440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:44:17 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45DiGjm010453 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:44:16 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061EDDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 9:44:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200505051344.j45DiGjm010453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:44:16 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Los Dos Molinos! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You got it!!! The LDM in Mesa is having a huge Cinco de Mayo fest Saturday -- one price for all-you-can-indulge ... we'd like to go but we're not (too much semester wrap-up work). We've also been to LDM in Phoenix (in Tom Mix's former house) and the one in Springerville (in the mountains near the New Mex border). We hope to make it a four-fer in the next year. Carl keeps hounding us for a trip to New York and D.C. Ole! Amy On Thu, 5 May 2005 09:36:23 -0400, Marieber Meeber wrote: >Next year the MLA annual meeting (my MLA) is in Phoenix. I hope I can >persuade you and Mr. Williams to join me for a meal at LDM -- so ya'll can >set me straight. > Marie > > On 5/4/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: >> >> Our Favorite Restaurant (x4) is the lead story in today's food section of >> The Arizona Republic! >> >> http://www.azcentral.com/home/food/mexico/articles/0504molinos0504.html >> >> Amy >> > > > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 09:24:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45EO5Wm004029 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:24:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:24:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061F072@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:15:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 666027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:15:44 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45EFi9a016963 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:15:44 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:15:43 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 10:15:28 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU tomorrow >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/5/2005 10:08:56 AM >>> Today is No Pants Day!!!! http://www.nopantsday.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 09:24:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45EO5Wm004027 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:24:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:24:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061F123@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:15:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 666023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:15:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45EFhmX016958 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:15:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2726692nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.1 with SMTP id l1mr273424nzl; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:15:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mm5apn4VNnmyIviUeJLdsTjRGWCtrKobO1/ugwuXX84eH8UyDDRlxmAslLK8kO4sItpHOCBp1RwhK2yn02BJ1t3ldrL4dxJrXVgVTLypupn9FwHoQ1TcvWUp9M6MsBHFwli2s/ZNsJLhmbaK/5wvzzZR1u51YlKpYrpEMQgD3Kg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050505071570e9d066@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:15:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <427A27BA.7030000@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <427A27BA.7030000@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45EO5Wm004027 On 5/5/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Re the autopsy, this info may also be in national news, but it's > possible that local news includes more details. This story I just read > says that there was question at the time of the trial about whether the > body found was Emmett's -- that some people claimed he was still alive. > (I doubt that there was ever a real about it -- but it was > something tossed about at the trial.) He was identified by a ring, which is pretty inconclusive. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 09:24:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45EO5Wm004034 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:24:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:24:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061EE95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:07:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 664006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:07:42 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45E7gGj015280 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:07:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.161]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505140547.OATI1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:05:47 -0400 Message-ID: <427A283A.1070001@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 09:05:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re Quacking References: <427A0A30.1080401@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505050504226a1f1d@mail.gmail.com> <427A1243.9070607@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050506334ed79387@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050506334ed79387@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Ah. I wouldn't even give it myth status. I'd say it's a stupid statement. > > Snopes called it a UL, I believe (though I myself think of ducks as more rural). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 09:24:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45EO5Wm004032 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:24:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:24:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061EEFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:04:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 662760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:04:01 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45E41cG014382 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:04:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.161]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505140340.NZRS1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:03:40 -0400 Message-ID: <427A27BA.7030000@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 09:03:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Re the autopsy, this info may also be in national news, but it's possible that local news includes more details. This story I just read says that there was question at the time of the trial about whether the body found was Emmett's -- that some people claimed he was still alive. (I doubt that there was ever a real about it -- but it was something tossed about at the trial.) The story is here: http://tinyurl.com/9r2qg (It also makes clear to me who the middle-aged man on tv was, back whenever/wherever I saw that -- sometime in relatively recent history but not extremely recent. The man was Simeon Wright, a cousin who was sleeping beside Emmett the night he was killed.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 09:24:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45EO5Wm004035 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:24:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:24:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061EFB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:08:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 664188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:08:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45E8upR015442 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:08:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2723233nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr271012nzb; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:08:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bySmSobVqr9CF5+x0AYM2pQEUNIubrhmC5F6MJE1vaQvrMiOUKTRZ1txvg3uIenMKGM1J8sKO/vzSOJQGabGMob9XOHkzBotAoDWN0v+yX7BHjuCzBMXuufaeEG6lJWCHrh7S4W3DWVGsVMu8b/tfA7hiaOhsKA5JfjNL8Yfw3w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:08:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45EO5Wm004035 Today is No Pants Day!!!! http://www.nopantsday.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 09:30:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45EUVWm004794 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:30:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:30:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F48157@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:30:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 667736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:30:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j45EKURT017990 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:20:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 37686 invoked by uid 1003); 5 May 2005 14:20:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:20:29 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Message-ID: <20050505142029.GA37198@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 09:08:56AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Today is No Pants Day!!!! > > http://www.nopantsday.com/ Did you check the local Google in Austin? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 09:34:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45EYeWm005312 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:34:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:34:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061F266@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:24:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 668927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:24:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45EOdTO018913 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:24:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2730932nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr273009nzb; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:24:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=toOgXsIi0OkkUmoR89K6MddqXbUGXR8cTHZAlfXDJfq+ezT2nFlNVSc4wZalZuRIvrNf9dh02t7dwBaU7fuSXgzzyd3Dj2FOOqEnNBt2RQX4XH+ansbQVqCHWCSN1+I9jf/LTG+xSJ9t+Qv3j9LNEOD0/QvDZR2v+E6Gbmejydk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050507246c894001@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:24:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45EYeWm005312 Ah. Thank you. It's been a long day already.... Are you planning to be pants-free tomorrow? On 5/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > tomorrow > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/5/2005 10:08:56 AM >>> > Today is No Pants Day!!!! > > http://www.nopantsday.com/ > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 09:34:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45EYeWm005314 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:34:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:34:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061F2C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:27:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 669837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:27:38 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45ERcJu019731 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:27:38 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:27:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 10:27:27 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU let me check the weather forecast >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/5/2005 10:24:39 AM >>> Ah. Thank you. It's been a long day already.... Are you planning to be pants-free tomorrow? On 5/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > tomorrow > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/5/2005 10:08:56 AM >>> > Today is No Pants Day!!!! > > http://www.nopantsday.com/ > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 09:34:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45EYeWm005316 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 09:34:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:34:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061F1FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:27:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 669668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:27:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45ERE77019618 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:27:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2732155nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.3 with SMTP id k3mr278348nzk; Thu, 05 May 2005 07:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 07:27:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=SFlgFJ8xcz2LH/Rga1KTL6rAq896211um2s5CGsPNzg36tg08wmxRuTVH1NPTP1+R2jfQucFykTF86Njb2lGcke3Ug07lZD3ZnC1BwCjeK1/XEXEjLBpr5MiU5zqw9WdrcElyw0NMeBHPOkIozROw0EvgbmR69OM+05oIiL9sak= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050507272c3e0dc1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:27:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Tushar's Alley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45EYeWm005316 This book description struck me as right up his: *On Bullshit (Unabridged)* *Author:* Harry G. Frankfurt One of the most salient features of our culture is that there is so much bullshit. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the situation for granted. Most people are rather confident of their ability to recognize bullshit and to avoid being taken in by it. So the phenomenon has not aroused much deliberate concern. We have no clear understanding of what bullshit is, why there is so much of it, or what functions it serves. And we lack a conscientiously developed appreciation of what it means to us. In other words, as Harry Frankfurt writes, "we have no theory". Frankfurt, one of the world's most influential moral philosophers, attempts to build such a theory here. With his characteristic combination of philosophical acuity, psychological insight, and wry humor, Frankfurt proceeds by exploring how bullshit and the related concept of humbug are distinct from lying. He argues that bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all. Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant. Frankfurt concludes that although bullshit can take many innocent forms, excessive indulgence in it can eventually undermine the practitioner's capacity to tell the truth in a way that lying does not. Liars at least acknowledge that it matters what is true. By virtue of this, Frankfurt writes, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 10:44:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45FiXWm016150 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:44:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:44:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061FA14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:34:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 689497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:34:32 -0400 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45FYVcG003852 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:34:31 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.30.7206e2d4 (4446) for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:34:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <30.7206e2d4.2fab9704@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:34:28 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] re Quacking To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 5/5/2005 9:07:45 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Snopes called it a UL, I believe (though I myself think of ducks as more rural). >> There's a pair that spends time here at the apartment complex every spring; they wander around when they aren't spending time swimming in the pool. One of the groundskeepers was cleaning the pool this morning, and the ducks were sitting in the courtyard waiting for him to finish. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 11:29:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45GTQWm022826 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:29:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:29:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061FAAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:29:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:29:14 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45GTDed012434 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:29:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18679782 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:31:21 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 09:29:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:29:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=77650, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, the website says it is tomorrow. But looked at some of the pix of last year. Hell, those guys are wearing boxers longer than my gym shorts. What weenies and wimps. dan 5/5/2005, 8:08 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Today is No Pants Day!!!! AFoA> http://www.nopantsday.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 11:29:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45GTQWm022821 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:29:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:29:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061FA71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:20:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:20:57 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45GKued010811 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:20:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18833917 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:21:18 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 09:21:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:20:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1929934358.20050505102055@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: re Quacking In-Reply-To: <427A0A30.1080401@maynor.net> References: <427A0A30.1080401@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 186, in=63883, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 5:57 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> hat isn't? Echoing quacks? I just got the snopes url from another NM> Wordsler. It's quite simple: >> Claim: A duck's quack doesn't echo, and no one knows why. >> >> Status: False. We all said that. >> NM> from: http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/duckecho.htm And that says just what the "TMI" one says, though in a few less words. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 11:29:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45GTQWm022823 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:29:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:29:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061FA6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:19:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:19:25 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45GJN7p010529 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:19:23 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18839004 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 09:47:44 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 09:19:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:19:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <791335538.20050505101922@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Much better, or Hammerfest, here we come In-Reply-To: <83db447a050504235443c2955c@mail.gmail.com> References: <83db447a050504235443c2955c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 184, in=66898, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 12:54 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: CV> With the advent of low-rise jeans, plumber's butt is no longer a CV> uniquely male phenomenon. and thank the Lord for that From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 12:11:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45HAxWm029202 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:11:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:11:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0061FC29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:50:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 696360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:50:59 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45GowV6015059 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:50:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18555790 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:07:02 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 09:51:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:50:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=65061, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 7:32 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Some reports say 14, some say 15. I suspect he was in his 15th year but AFoA> hadn't had his birthday yet. Emmett Louis Till was born in Chicago on July 25, 1941. He was murdered in August 55. So he was barely past 14. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 12:11:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45HAxWm029203 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:11:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:11:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0061FD5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:10:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:10:45 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45HAj1K017928 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:10:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2816702nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr328128nzu; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LbL0xeeFbNaloKFp8VCawac2wuzuxqQaLyb/UR4YS3Z8ZmaxR0ZfI2GRdCmwmxK6HjluY8GMK9Lpq6omjJrBGdQpV4493SEmADx0dRMQdTugTLAnj+zXW3xOr6nci5f3/4RdBZxtPV60jCUMJ9S9rbBJHme3s2THyK4QvLtNsSk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:10:44 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45HAxWm029203 On 5/5/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/5/2005, 7:32 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> Some reports say 14, some say 15. I suspect he was in his 15th year > but > AFoA> hadn't had his birthday yet. > > Emmett Louis Till was born in Chicago on July 25, 1941. He was > murdered in August 55. So he was barely past 14. > Huh. I wonder why so many (seemingly reliable) accounts said he was 15. Whatever. Too young to be beaten to death. I'm not actually sure if there's a cutoff for that... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 12:28:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45HSLWm031139 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:28:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:28:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061FC0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:28:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 699800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:28:21 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45HSK88020809 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:28:20 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18841904 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:28:40 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 10:28:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:28:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 186, in=63934, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 11:10 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Emmett Louis Till was born in Chicago on July 25, 1941. He was >> murdered in August 55. So he was barely past 14. >> AFoA> Huh. I wonder why so many (seemingly reliable) accounts said he was 15. AFoA> Whatever. Too young to be beaten to death. AFoA> I'm not actually sure if there's a cutoff for that... Don't know. My info came from PBS documentary site. I believe other sources will say the same. And, no, there's no cutoff....though I can think of a couple who could use a good Biblical stoning....but they continue to molder away on Death Row.... dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 12:37:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45HbGWm032226 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:37:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:37:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F4908F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:37:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:34:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45HYR6Q021872 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:34:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2827759nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.1 with SMTP id l1mr340449nzl; Thu, 05 May 2005 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VMVQ0ivjJWhQq3kZ6d9oI1lMXxVoCVa5hAWp6p/25fWA2Gas/vww71Tv3HOJYSlL6nwDEhwg9um0/4IY4i+j9IZMZWgpsXQlYNj9l47oZK0TWGDs9E5VY+El0oW9wq7nLB7jQ7nva9Q30f2htGK9hIgSRaDtxdriWqi4xEy3r+M= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:34:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45HbGWm032226 On 5/5/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > though I can > think of a couple who could use a good Biblical stoning....but they > continue to molder away on Death Row.... > Or in the White House. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 13:37:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45IbKWm007604 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:37:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:37:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061FF77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:37:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 708800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:37:20 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45IbK9E031813 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:37:20 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:37:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:37:07 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Brit elections Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Polls close in a little over an hour. Watch the returns at the BBC site's fun map: "See all the results live as they colour our map." http://tinyurl.com/9hpbz or http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/flash_map/html/map05.stm if size matters to you BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 13:43:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45IhgWm008453 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:43:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:43:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061FF97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:43:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 709193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:43:42 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45IhfOl000512 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:43:41 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so913257wra for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.67 with SMTP id 67mr331710wru; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:43:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cmUlHNRDh9mMo3RVhML99H4YqYx2gD4Ugs0WVDCofyzIb+/FeQRzjsxmoR60HJ4blC5kprhgpP6/wIOxBSYzd1cW2qaoMr/P8X8zA0JbTOuNI+KJbBp8JDjcuGbzNw/HNfMF/5+0T+n2fTtFr1Cf1yc2zx1YgD2GZBEnPA3kpuQ= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:43:41 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45IhgWm008453 Here in Norway, they are celebrating the feast of the Ascension. The stores of Hammefest were all closed. What a Christian country. Puts the good ole USA to shame. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 13:47:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45IleWm009032 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:47:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:47:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006200C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:47:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 709718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:47:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45Ild6u001458 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:47:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2862898nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.18 with SMTP id h18mr388109nzh; Thu, 05 May 2005 11:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 11:47:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BiD00QWy54Xjg8Eywyv0cztUSCYZZuPACD0e6AH8PjvxCcJl+WRh80yug5gwOyTQP3X2+8uF7H+vnap5T9Qmi6OwoGdgZetqhzYMy3CCUqYQYLE21ZOGznA5alGU1I3KwDwSFyZadXjFYH90N4x4z4sj3rpHl2VI5ejX4ADL2R8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050511471fa26f2a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:47:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brit elections In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45IleWm009032 Labour is red! Cool, colors that make sense... On 5/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Polls close in a little over an hour. > > Watch the returns at the BBC site's fun map: > > "See all the results live as they colour our map." > > http://tinyurl.com/9hpbz > > or http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/flash_map/html/map05.stm > if size matters to you > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 13:50:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45IoLWm009414 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:50:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:50:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0061FFCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:50:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 709947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:50:21 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45IoKeR001948 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:50:20 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:50:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:49:50 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Brit elections Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU and then there's http://omrlp.brinkster.net/home.asp BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/5/2005 2:47:35 PM >>> Labour is red! Cool, colors that make sense... On 5/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Polls close in a little over an hour. > > Watch the returns at the BBC site's fun map: > > "See all the results live as they colour our map." > > http://tinyurl.com/9hpbz > > or http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/flash_map/html/map05.stm > if size matters to you > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 13:59:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45IwxWm010556 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:59:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:59:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006201BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:58:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 710774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:58:59 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45IwwaX003758 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:58:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.73]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505185858.GVXS2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:58:58 -0400 Message-ID: <427A6CF1.90108@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:58:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Bayla Plant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For those of you at Snowbash the year love,judith brought me the tiny sprout from The Bayla plant, here's what just *half* of it looks like now (the other half is in another room): http://www.maynor.net/Temp/bayla.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 14:06:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45J6FWm012006 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:06:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:06:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F494DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:06:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 711405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:06:14 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45J6BlL005061 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:06:11 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:06:11 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:05:41 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: re Quacking Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU THEY might well have the same impression of US. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/5/2005 3:02:54 PM >>> The birds have been sitting on the rail around my tomato garden lately, waiting for tomatoes to sprout. They're looking forward to feasting. I took some pictures a little while ago of various plants and stuff, including the tomato garden. Will do something with them soon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 14:24:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45JOnWm014368 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:24:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:24:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F495D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:24:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 712946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:24:49 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45JOmOk008060 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:24:48 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:24:48 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:24:03 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I slept through "Out of Africa" myself BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/5/2005 3:09:06 PM >>> So instead I went to a movie -- saw "Out of Africa" -- and found it funny that I was surrounded by a large group of senior citizens who had arrived together and who promptly fell asleep. The movie theater was a beehive of snoring. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 14:53:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45JrDWm018491 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:53:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:53:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620129@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:02:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 711170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:02:56 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45J2usN004534 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:02:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.73]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505190256.GZHW2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:02:56 -0400 Message-ID: <427A6DDE.1060001@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:02:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re Quacking References: <30.7206e2d4.2fab9704@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <30.7206e2d4.2fab9704@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > One of the groundskeepers was cleaning the pool this >morning, and the ducks were sitting in the courtyard waiting for him >to finish. > > The birds have been sitting on the rail around my tomato garden lately, waiting for tomatoes to sprout. They're looking forward to feasting. I took some pictures a little while ago of various plants and stuff, including the tomato garden. Will do something with them soon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 14:53:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45JrDWn018491 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:53:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:53:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062002B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:04:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 711315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:04:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45J4f3X004845 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:04:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2871100nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.1 with SMTP id l1mr394197nzl; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:04:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FgHouLGs/ZYCIkf+cIkyvygR3s+dpB5398wrsr7p3GF08otJDK57oBCZVpKDunj1Y93V+rRGjcquQTgSDJ0z6YbCAQsXyZe266D0q2LNIwRsX72ZHdHR8a8ja3QqynHaVL3xAqgd5ONiC7yEIHsSPVhz0pLaRjJrR8iiVfhDHeg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050505120443c9ff33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:04:40 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brit elections In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45JrDWn018491 What's their color? On 5/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > and then there's > http://omrlp.brinkster.net/home.asp > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/5/2005 2:47:35 PM >>> > Labour is red! Cool, colors that make sense... > > On 5/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > Polls close in a little over an hour. > > > > Watch the returns at the BBC site's fun map: > > > > "See all the results live as they colour our map." > > > > http://tinyurl.com/9hpbz > > > > or http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/flash_map/html/map05.stm > > if size matters to you > > > > BrP > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 14:53:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45JrDWo018491 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:53:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:53:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062002F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:05:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 711376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:05:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45J5gqL004996 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:05:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2871583nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.8 with SMTP id l8mr396709nzl; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:05:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WxLslVGqnkPbE+gbEQVcttu/gjWq6RF8unJPJzTvUHcqOI1fJVgsYb3HF3IvPJ3oB1KB77p+B5+vuCEfPY28WSQ5YL2iE0stX21D127tuxJES71IIJFSP3VYIauvVq03foRp7jFJGoCHCA0EehcIdG+22ndXUZVgqUfS2zL1ZqU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050505120562780d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:05:42 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re Quacking In-Reply-To: <427A6DDE.1060001@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <30.7206e2d4.2fab9704@aol.com> <427A6DDE.1060001@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45JrDWo018491 Another example of urban duckhood is the Treasury duck. On 5/5/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > > One of the groundskeepers was cleaning the pool this > >morning, and the ducks were sitting in the courtyard waiting for him > >to finish. > > > > > The birds have been sitting on the rail around my tomato garden lately, > waiting for tomatoes to sprout. They're looking forward to feasting. I > took some pictures a little while ago of various plants and stuff, > including the tomato garden. Will do something with them soon. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 14:53:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45JrDWp018491 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:53:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:53:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620140@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:06:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 711494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:06:50 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45J6nDT005189 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:06:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.73]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505190649.HCGY2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:06:49 -0400 Message-ID: <427A6EC8.90703@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:06:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>think of a couple who could use a good Biblical stoning....but they >>continue to molder away on Death Row.... >> >> > >Or in the White House. > > Speaking of which, my RRSIL is in Prague right now as a guest of Dubya to help place a wreath in memory of the liberation of Prague during WWII. I don't know whether she's still thinking about being an ambassador or whether she's already said no. I'm guessing the latter. The Czech Republic was one of the three places she was considering (the other two being Sweden and New Zealand). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 14:53:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45JrDWq018491 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:53:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:53:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00620202@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:09:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 711784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:09:08 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45J98uG005688 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:09:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.73]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505190907.HEIT2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:09:07 -0400 Message-ID: <427A6F52.8000106@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:09:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >Here in Norway, they are celebrating the feast of the Ascension. The stores >of Hammefest were all closed. What a Christian country. Puts the good ole >USA to shame. > > I remember that I thought my first day of class in Vichy was that Monday and finding out as I was about to head to class that it was a holiday. So instead I went to a movie -- saw "Out of Africa" -- and found it funny that I was surrounded by a large group of senior citizens who had arrived together and who promptly fell asleep. The movie theater was a beehive of snoring. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 14:53:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45JrDWr018491 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:53:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:53:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006201D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:35:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 713678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:35:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45JZlbA009411 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:35:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so884712wri for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.20 with SMTP id o20mr249329wro; Thu, 05 May 2005 12:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 12:35:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GC5lVNSRWmLO02Siz50bLMeVjbJl62ws7+zM1I3BjjYALuNYylaxBts1zPMoUSLXryjpADdXj02N/1GMAHuvD0MoPdSVVOxneoDwr25TPzgOEYQUXMhXF0inOYzE8pm4V7Qw1rhEkxOn1CwJCLG7pnOh+l3WYb9PVtnB2scORuk= Message-ID: <83db447a05050512357fc563a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:35:47 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?...as_dead_as_Bod=F8_on_Sunday...?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45JrDWr018491 ...was Hammerfest today. This time, a religious holiday (Ascension). We had wanted to do some shopping, including in one shop that we remembered from October, but alas. Mostly overcast today and this early evening. We are approaching the Lyng Alps now---maybe the sun will break through enough to provide some interesting light. The ship definitely is more populated now. That still surprises me---for people going only one way, the most popular route is the northbound route, or so everyone has told us. It seems that there are more day-trippers on the southbound run. Well, the teenagers have discovered this place, so it's time to go look at mountains. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:12:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KCIWm021243 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:12:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:12:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620257@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:02:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 715751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:02:17 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45K2HTH013208 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:02:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([65.12.33.73]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505200217.PCKC2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:02:17 -0400 Message-ID: <427A7BC7.3010809@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 15:02:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Beauty and the Beast Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On how a beast impedes beauty: http://maynor.net/Temp/May5-05/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:32:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KW5Wm024399 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:32:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:32:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006201C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:23:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:23:22 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KNMXZ016486 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:23:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18583898 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:39:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 13:23:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:23:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <424140860.20050505142322@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=65220, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sure does. And same for a number of others. 5/5/2005, 12:43 PM, bonniemaev wrote: b> Here in Norway, they are celebrating the feast of the Ascension. The stores b> of Hammefest were all closed. What a Christian country. Puts the good ole b> USA to shame. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:32:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KW5Wm024393 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:32:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:32:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006201B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:22:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:22:05 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KM4fV016296 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:22:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18870557 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:50:28 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 13:22:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:22:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1245599429.20050505142203@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 184, in=67099, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 11:34 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> though I can >> think of a couple who could use a good Biblical stoning....but they >> continue to molder away on Death Row.... >> AFoA> Or in the White House. OK...which sin that would provide for a Biblical stoning has the President committed? Yeah, Clinton would qualify. But Bush? Not arguing, just curious. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:32:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KW5Wm024400 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:32:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:32:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006202D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:24:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:24:31 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KOUWK016641 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:24:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18584026 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:40:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 13:24:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:24:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1163534292.20050505142429@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=65222, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Of course in Chicago everything closes on Good Friday, too. And Hewlett Packard still closes on Good Friday, though in a bow to political correctness it is no longer Good Friday Holiday it is now Spring Holiday (which always happens to fall on Good Friday) 5/5/2005, 12:43 PM, bonniemaev wrote: b> Here in Norway, they are celebrating the feast of the Ascension. The stores b> of Hammefest were all closed. What a Christian country. Puts the good ole b> USA to shame. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:32:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KW5Wm024401 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:32:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:32:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006201E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:26:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 716807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:26:52 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j45KGlhV015394 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:16:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 92355 invoked by uid 1003); 5 May 2005 20:16:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:16:47 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till Message-ID: <20050505201647.GA91530@words-l.org> References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505041935594c389@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505041935594c389@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 09:35:34PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/4/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > > > > Who knows? Something might turn up. > > > > Well, jeeze. Let me state publicly now that if I am murdered, please don't > dig my body up 50 years later on the basis of "something might turn up". I > really don't care that much. If you don't care, why the public statement? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:33:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KW5Wm024395 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:32:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:32:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006202CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:22:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:22:53 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KMoYe016401 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:22:50 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18583840 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:38:55 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 13:23:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:22:50 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17610028193.20050505142250@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brit elections In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=65219, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, their's will be more colorful, what with four colors instead of two. 5/5/2005, 12:37 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> "See all the results live as they colour our map." PB> http://tinyurl.com/9hpbz PB> or PB> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/flash_map/html/map05.stm PB> if size matters to you From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:33:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KW5Wn024393 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:32:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:33:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00620202@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:29:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:29:52 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j45KJpaK015902 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:19:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 93925 invoked by uid 1003); 5 May 2005 20:19:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:19:51 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Message-ID: <20050505201951.GB91530@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 09:08:56AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Today is No Pants Day!!!! > > http://www.nopantsday.com/ You snarky little miscreant. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:33:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KW5Wn024400 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:32:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:33:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620311@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:31:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 718075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:31:04 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KV4fN017506 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:31:04 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 57308006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:31:04 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050505132836.00c04890@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:31:00 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Survey In-Reply-To: <1245599429.20050505142203@gailndan.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Has anyone ever checked to see how many sons or daughters of our congressmen and women are doing their patriotic duty and serving in the military? How many in Iraq? My nephew is home and he gets to go to Ohio in October. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:33:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KW5Wn024401 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:32:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:33:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00620204@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:30:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 718031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:30:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KUGN5017409 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:30:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2908252nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr440710nzu; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:30:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QVFO4/Lo+JQH+TDl+rG/jakBbxtX4+OTIVFr9/QSieLSstLTK1FhDT+CqhzsLAQJk5nVO2+KVm+FSuAfpu5pErrNCJQXBMMED7TnNSvz1A25dipT+rjnLsqXzZx0aw4qmCnnN1Lrtly0OcrrbvD6ojlYHDdlDDc+us73YhXHWkk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050513305d2bc61c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:30:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <1245599429.20050505142203@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <1245599429.20050505142203@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45KW5Wn024401 On 5/5/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/5/2005, 11:34 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> though I can > >> think of a couple who could use a good Biblical stoning....but they > >> continue to molder away on Death Row.... > >> > > AFoA> Or in the White House. > > OK...which sin that would provide for a Biblical stoning has the > President committed? Yeah, Clinton would qualify. But Bush? Not > arguing, just curious. > I wasn't thinking of Bush as much as Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. They may not all work in the White House, but they have spent significant time there. Gluttony, stealing... There are a lot of choices. Karen who didn't know until now that touching Mt. Sinai was a stoning offense From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:33:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KW5Wn024395 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:33:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:33:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006203C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:31:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 718117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:31:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KVIl6017558 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:31:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2908703nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr441157nzb; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:31:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UcrUtZj7oBopV1vTbqvZaMD6NS60Rnhr+Ntwrms5SDJH/p2Gsd84ULO60rVTJTaQ+EzFTcryV1RwI3YYMMRnCcGnyXIBiXgjPdYTUpsZQrBGdwV+kx9TkK0yvPt7CcyPIAcsq5uGZw6C64BV0qZsYKWIFYPKUvsD2WZMOszXMdM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050505133160694b71@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:31:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <20050505201647.GA91530@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505041935594c389@mail.gmail.com> <20050505201647.GA91530@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45KW5Wn024395 On 5/5/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 09:35:34PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 5/4/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > > > > > > Who knows? Something might turn up. > > > > > > > Well, jeeze. Let me state publicly now that if I am murdered, please > don't > > dig my body up 50 years later on the basis of "something might turn up". > I > > really don't care that much. > > If you don't care, why the public statement? I care about being dug up, not about who murdered me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:33:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KW5Wn024399 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:32:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:32:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006201F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:28:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:28:50 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KSmWm017187 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:28:48 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 865ED55127CF4 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:27:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002401c551b0$dfcc0170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:27:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... >I slept through "Out of Africa" myself > > BrP >>>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/5/2005 3:09:06 PM >>> > > So instead I went to a movie -- saw "Out of Africa" -- and found it > funny that I was surrounded by a large group of senior citizens who > had > arrived together and who promptly fell asleep. The movie theater was > a > beehive of snoring. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It put me to sleep too. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:53:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KrbWm027233 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:53:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:53:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620354@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:41:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 718957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:41:28 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KfRmO018993 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:41:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18865946 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:41:49 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 13:41:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:30:42 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1054393274.20050505143042@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <427A6EC8.90703@maynor.net> References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <427A6EC8.90703@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 186, in=64075, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 1:06 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> The Czech Republic was one of the three places she was considering (the NM> other two being Sweden and New Zealand). well, if they're still open, can she recommend me? I clean up real nice.... I'd make CR third choice, Sweden second, NZ first. But would take any. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:54:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KrbWm027226 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:53:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:53:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062022A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:36:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:36:00 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j45KP5Or016755 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:25:05 -0400 Received: (qmail 96695 invoked by uid 1003); 5 May 2005 20:25:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:25:04 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re Quacking Message-ID: <20050505202504.GD91530@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 03:05:41PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > THEY might well have the same impression of US. > > BrP BFD From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:54:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KrbWm027232 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:53:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:54:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006203FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:39:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 718866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:39:49 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45Kdl7b018809 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:39:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18865696 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:40:09 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 13:40:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:39:46 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <18410455527.20050505143946@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <20050505202334.GC91530@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> <20050505202334.GC91530@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 186, in=64070, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 2:23 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> What weenies and wimps. DMH> Wrong! They are snarky little miscreants. SSDD From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:54:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KrbWm027229 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:53:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:54:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00620405@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:41:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 718951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:41:27 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KfQjs018988 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:41:26 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18865941 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:41:48 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 13:41:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:29:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <138568816.20050505142924@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brit elections In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050505120443c9ff33@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050505120443c9ff33@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 186, in=64074, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 1:04 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> What's their color? I'd guess they're "OTH" or gray. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:54:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KrbWm027231 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:53:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:54:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620321@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:33:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:33:36 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j45KNYu8016516 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:23:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 95327 invoked by uid 1003); 5 May 2005 20:23:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:23:34 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Message-ID: <20050505202334.GC91530@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 10:29:13AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Well, the website says it is tomorrow. But looked at some of the pix > of last year. Hell, those guys are wearing boxers longer than my gym > shorts. What weenies and wimps. Wrong! They are snarky little miscreants. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:54:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KrbWn027233 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:53:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:54:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062024B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:41:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 718963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:41:29 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KfTHY019001 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:41:29 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18865949 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:41:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 13:41:47 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:38:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <43755755.20050505143856@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050513305d2bc61c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <1245599429.20050505142203@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050513305d2bc61c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 186, in=64077, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 2:30 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I wasn't thinking of Bush as much as Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. They AFoA> may not all work in the White House, but they have spent significant time AFoA> there. Gluttony, stealing... There are a lot of choices. Stealing, yes. Sexual misconduct, yes. But don't think they've touched Mt. Sinai. Or gored anyone. Or preached blasphemy (maybe to you, but in the Bible). AFoA> Karen AFoA> who didn't know until now that touching Mt. Sinai was a stoning offense From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:54:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KrbWn027226 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:54:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:54:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00620431@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:44:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 719387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:44:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KiZ6w019452 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:44:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2914117nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr451034nzb; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 13:44:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZPQmIpV/VnC5zOfvZDy/kKRcRVRIlZbwPIICFrPEh1miZRSQByMZVJSVTb3cqSEGYNb9Fet9H3poM8dvZAUVtvqa1gsbdHdP3xPxXVFH35ipXgsPyiynWW8kVQVkqPAhBhHtElCLO4LXoy0kGtwu62QHesKEXNSuyRwdvd50c8w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505051344781c2a7b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:44:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <43755755.20050505143856@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <1245599429.20050505142203@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050513305d2bc61c@mail.gmail.com> <43755755.20050505143856@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45KrbWn027226 On 5/5/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/5/2005, 2:30 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> I wasn't thinking of Bush as much as Cheney and Rumsfeld and > Wolfowitz. They > AFoA> may not all work in the White House, but they have spent significant > time > AFoA> there. Gluttony, stealing... There are a lot of choices. > > Stealing, yes. Sexual misconduct, yes. But don't think they've > touched Mt. Sinai. Or gored anyone. Or preached blasphemy (maybe to > you, but in the Bible). > Are you suggesting that all criteria need to be fulfilled? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:54:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KrbWn027232 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:54:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:54:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006202A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:49:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 719991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:49:35 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KnZVd020427 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:49:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18867561 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:49:57 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 13:49:55 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:49:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <27026747.20050505144934@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050505133703.00c38e30@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050505133703.00c38e30@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 186, in=64086, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 2:37 PM, Betty Clark wrote: BC> Hell, those guys are wearing boxers longer than my gym >> > shorts. What weenies and wimps. >> >>Wrong! They are snarky little miscreants. BC> I saw a tighty whitey. Yeah, but that's the exception. One real man in the whole damn place. But for Texas, that's not surprising. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 15:54:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45KrbWn027229 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 15:54:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 15:54:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006203B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:51:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 720204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:51:54 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45Kpr8R020816 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:51:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18714729 for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:54:02 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 5 May 2005 13:52:13 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:51:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <18210369846.20050505145153@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Emmett Till In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505051344781c2a7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <1245599429.20050505142203@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050513305d2bc61c@mail.gmail.com> <43755755.20050505143856@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505051344781c2a7b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 189, in=77864, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 2:44 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> AFoA> I wasn't thinking of Bush as much as Cheney and Rumsfeld and >> Wolfowitz. They >> AFoA> may not all work in the White House, but they have spent significant >> time >> AFoA> there. Gluttony, stealing... There are a lot of choices. >> >> Stealing, yes. Sexual misconduct, yes. But don't think they've >> touched Mt. Sinai. Or gored anyone. Or preached blasphemy (maybe to >> you, but in the Bible). >> AFoA> Are you suggesting that all criteria need to be fulfilled? No, any one of them is adequate, as Bible makes clear. But not sure that any of those have been committed by those you named. Not saying they haven't, just not that I know of. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 16:03:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45L3VWm028271 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:03:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:03:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062046B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:03:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 721934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:03:31 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45L3ULv022591 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:03:30 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 57315571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:03:30 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050505140259.00c07e28@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:03:29 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <27026747.20050505144934@gailndan.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050505133703.00c38e30@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050505133703.00c38e30@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:49 PM 5/5/2005 -0600, you wrote: >5/5/2005, 2:37 PM, Betty Clark wrote: > >BC> Hell, those guys are wearing boxers longer than my gym > >> > shorts. What weenies and wimps. > >> > >>Wrong! They are snarky little miscreants. > >BC> I saw a tighty whitey. > >Yeah, but that's the exception. One real man in the whole damn place. >But for Texas, that's not surprising. Real men don't wear tighty whiteys. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 16:06:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45L65Wm028949 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:06:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:06:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620479@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:06:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:06:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45L64FL022931 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:06:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2922952nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.18 with SMTP id h18mr471382nzh; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:06:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b7ZD6+v/zBxy5AjWG7ehuvVptapGEK9q2VqJvTcvZXfP1edBdp9sCYTjuWloLXrdaJ3hG0mXX9zxCQ293m9HsS/NvUWAx4QFbUVXIaXJarakivP+41DNpoe1nWH9cNW+DEDGa/tX385SDjDoxH/l/G+qwexQ0mOpEYabwRF7EPQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050505140646d854ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:06:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050505140259.00c07e28@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050505133703.00c38e30@calmail.berkeley.edu> <27026747.20050505144934@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050505140259.00c07e28@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45L65Wm028949 On 5/5/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 02:49 PM 5/5/2005 -0600, you wrote: > >5/5/2005, 2:37 PM, Betty Clark wrote: > > > >BC> Hell, those guys are wearing boxers longer than my gym > > >> > shorts. What weenies and wimps. > > >> > > >>Wrong! They are snarky little miscreants. > > > >BC> I saw a tighty whitey. > > > >Yeah, but that's the exception. One real man in the whole damn place. > >But for Texas, that's not surprising. > > Real men don't wear tighty whiteys. Indeed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 16:18:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45LHuWm030150 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:17:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:18:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F49840@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:37:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 718647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:37:54 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45KbaLR018466 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:37:37 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 57309461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:37:36 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050505133703.00c38e30@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 13:37:35 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <20050505202334.GC91530@words-l.org> References: <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1524406330.20050505102913@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:23 PM 5/5/2005 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 10:29:13AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > > Well, the website says it is tomorrow. But looked at some of the pix > > of last year. Hell, those guys are wearing boxers longer than my gym > > shorts. What weenies and wimps. > >Wrong! They are snarky little miscreants. I saw a tighty whitey. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 16:19:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45LJHWm030239 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:19:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:19:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F49A71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:19:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:19:17 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j45L9FmU023452 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:09:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 21384 invoked by uid 1003); 5 May 2005 21:09:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:09:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till Message-ID: <20050505210915.GB19272@words-l.org> References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505041935594c389@mail.gmail.com> <20050505201647.GA91530@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050505133160694b71@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050505133160694b71@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 03:31:17PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/5/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 09:35:34PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 5/4/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > > > > > > > > Who knows? Something might turn up. > > > > > > > > > > Well, jeeze. Let me state publicly now that if I am murdered, > > > please don't dig my body up 50 years later on the basis of > > > "something might turn up". I really don't care that much. > > > > If you don't care, why the public statement? > > > I care about being dug up, not about who murdered me. First you said it would be your body being dug up, now you talk about YOUR being dug up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 16:27:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45LRBWm031233 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:27:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:27:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006203E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:24:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 723567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:24:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45LO4x1025236 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:24:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2930131nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.20 with SMTP id o20mr480697nzo; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:24:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YqvrHmEASIK6oqkAZ+aOI5UUr+bkOU82QDGperAFyo6m1Ak7ChQc5DjrYsjWgkj32rer0dTWFvaKQa8FPGesbD9/1HBXzL6TuJaUKdPM3+wfvOc9tnSpzeWWw/I+6rI3ANWyP61wpmA3l40xYtyqnMhsTayKxUP2aotelGi5q78= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050514246b360fc2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:24:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050505132836.00c04890@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <1245599429.20050505142203@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050505132836.00c04890@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45LRBWm031233 On 5/5/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > Has anyone ever checked to see how many sons or daughters of our > congressmen and women are doing their patriotic duty and serving in the > military? How many in Iraq? http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:GUZhwsrdl00J:www.bowlingfortruth.com/fahrenheit911/warsignup.htm+congressman+children+in+armed+forces&hl=en My nephew is home and he gets to go to Ohio in October. > Another 4-letter country.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 16:27:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45LRBWm031234 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:27:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:27:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006203C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:21:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:21:16 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j45LB4eo023692 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:11:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 22040 invoked by uid 1003); 5 May 2005 21:11:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:11:04 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tushar's Alley Message-ID: <20050505211104.GC19272@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705050507272c3e0dc1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050507272c3e0dc1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wrong. I don't care for "bullshit". My alley now has three letters on the entrance. B F D On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 09:27:14AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > This book description struck me as right up his: > > *On Bullshit (Unabridged)* > *Author:* Harry G. > Frankfurt > > > One of the most salient features of our culture is that there is so much > bullshit. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend > to take the situation for granted. Most people are rather confident of their > ability to recognize bullshit and to avoid being taken in by it. So the > phenomenon has not aroused much deliberate concern. We have no clear > understanding of what bullshit is, why there is so much of it, or what > functions it serves. And we lack a conscientiously developed appreciation of > what it means to us. In other words, as Harry Frankfurt writes, "we have no > theory". > > Frankfurt, one of the world's most influential moral philosophers, attempts > to build such a theory here. With his characteristic combination of > philosophical acuity, psychological insight, and wry humor, Frankfurt > proceeds by exploring how bullshit and the related concept of humbug are > distinct from lying. He argues that bullshitters misrepresent themselves to > their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims > about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all. > > Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves > without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly > change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims > about truth and falsity are irrelevant. Frankfurt concludes that although > bullshit can take many innocent forms, excessive indulgence in it can > eventually undermine the practitioner's capacity to tell the truth in a way > that lying does not. Liars at least acknowledge that it matters what is > true. By virtue of this, Frankfurt writes, bullshit is a greater enemy of > the truth than lies are. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 16:27:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45LRBWm031232 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:27:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:27:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062059E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:24:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 723601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:24:15 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45LOEqW025279 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:24:14 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 May 2005 17:24:14 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:23:45 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What's hapening with the salt-stain Mary? Did she wash away or are people still going to see her? BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 05/05/05 5:07 PM >>> And after the Pope died, flags were at half mast for a week! At least that's what it looked like. What a pathetic low point for the city ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 16:27:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45LRBWm031226 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:27:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:27:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006203C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:20:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 723133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:20:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45LKLK8024679 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:20:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2928730nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.10 with SMTP id k10mr472961nzk; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:20:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=l/LtWTvZzwBMD8z2E6UA43s69C8wGWxZxxN7T5uvbQ+FkdAtQOg0ykV8hXZclQwIQkuX4pug/OGA5Uoz0rGYkLd2Idob8pMfaGBaPVmWXawi9BDgka3vlpL+78tXQPhQuTqr7JDzj8aStQj1qnxEmyRkXAuh/dKksGWM+tVZMds= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050514206d4711f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:20:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <20050505210708.GA19272@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1163534292.20050505142429@gailndan.com> <20050505210708.GA19272@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45LRBWm031226 On 5/5/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 02:24:29PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > > Of course in Chicago everything closes on Good Friday, too. > > And after the Pope died, flags were at half mast for a week! > At least that's what it looked like. What a pathetic low point > for the city ... > I suspect The Polish Factor was a huge influence on that one. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 16:27:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45LRBWm031228 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:27:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:27:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006203B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:17:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:17:11 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j45L78n9023127 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:07:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 19894 invoked by uid 1003); 5 May 2005 21:07:08 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:07:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Message-ID: <20050505210708.GA19272@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1163534292.20050505142429@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1163534292.20050505142429@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 02:24:29PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Of course in Chicago everything closes on Good Friday, too. And after the Pope died, flags were at half mast for a week! At least that's what it looked like. What a pathetic low point for the city ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 16:33:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45LWvWm031842 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:32:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:33:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00620416@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:32:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:32:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45LWtNS026355 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 17:32:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2933233nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.18 with SMTP id h18mr484168nzh; Thu, 05 May 2005 14:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 14:32:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=STDCAoGgNh6huLSTOUN29siR/5HJpePw7aiuWyApB8womIGUolj3xnLQRyLFM1hmbiUB89Hh74kwX02NqmvPR6Zc8YzESnYwdKKc/CHnX+0VxNl7GC4dEDggfPZpK8ePnyQ2GwykHdHUrfkv3zCkoHtwH5L+ObI+ROQ15VbTQfA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050514323f9409fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:32:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45LWvWm031842 On 5/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > What's hapening with the salt-stain Mary? Did she wash away or are > people still going to see her? > Ever since I saw the photograph that made her look like labia, I haven't heard a peep. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 18:22:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45NLrWm011953 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:21:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 18:22:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00620648@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:11:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 731002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:11:53 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45NBqTh007826 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:11:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.38]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505231152.ZSNX2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:11:52 -0400 Message-ID: <427AA836.1030207@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:11:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Funny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Actually, I guess it's more sad than funny. Remember the house/yard I told y'all about that resulted in the house arrest of the owner with instructions to clean/fix it up? I just got back from a COPS meeting, where it was announced that the man showed up for a meeting with his parole officer so drunk that they had to toss him into a dry-out place, thus requiring an extension in his time to clean/fix up the house and yard. I once again loved the COPS meeting. I find these meetings much more fun than the SOFO silliness. And I love looking at the policeman who is commander of the precinct or whatever he is. He's extremely attractive. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 18:22:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45NLrWm011955 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:21:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 18:22:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00620815@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:17:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 731270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:17:34 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45NHXHe008439 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:17:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.38]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505231733.ZVQZ2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:17:33 -0400 Message-ID: <427AA98C.9050406@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:17:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505041935594c389@mail.gmail.com> <20050505201647.GA91530@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050505133160694b71@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050505133160694b71@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I care about being dug up, not about who murdered me. > > I would be just the opposite. But then not wanting to be buried in the first place, I would of course want to be dug up. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 18:22:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45NLrWm011952 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:21:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 18:22:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00620807@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:14:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 731068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:14:11 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45NEAT3007992 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:14:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.38]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505231410.ZTRD2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:14:10 -0400 Message-ID: <427AA8C1.5030606@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:14:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Emmett Till References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <427A6EC8.90703@maynor.net> <1054393274.20050505143042@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1054393274.20050505143042@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> The Czech Republic was one of the three places she was considering (the >NM> other two being Sweden and New Zealand). > >well, if they're still open, can she recommend me? I clean up real >nice.... I'd make CR third choice, Sweden second, NZ first. But >would take any. > > I think you probably have to be a to qualify. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 18:22:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45NLrWm011954 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:21:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 18:22:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062080B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:15:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 731135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:15:30 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45NFTtg008139 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:15:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.106.38]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050505231529.ZUMM2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:15:29 -0400 Message-ID: <427AA90B.7040109@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:15:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050505132836.00c04890@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050505132836.00c04890@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Has anyone ever checked to see how many sons or daughters of our > congressmen and women are doing their patriotic duty and serving in the > military? How many in Iraq? I think Michael Moore asked only two or three on the Washington streets in F911. They were all negatives, iirc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 18:52:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j45Nq7Wm015378 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 18:52:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 18:52:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620810@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:52:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 733493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:52:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j45Nq6cr011697 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:52:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so2971752nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr498539nzu; Thu, 05 May 2005 16:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 16:52:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DO1H6wftNI5OdYWK8ORsx7lmfZEChXCwka0tkB0PAA8lJbP+7lCYwuaabQDY4wa0levawRbSj1d4Nc4i5AgjUqaIOfimfVjgVct72UTXKjj9PP/MVMytrJ02XWKa3k/L8XHljD8XRVsaCjhesEahQV6bks4cT+ocIhOpxCTgWow= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050516521a5ea990@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 18:52:06 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny In-Reply-To: <427AA836.1030207@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427AA836.1030207@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j45Nq7Wm015378 On 5/5/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Actually, I guess it's more sad than funny. Remember the house/yard I > told y'all about that resulted in the house arrest of the owner with > instructions to clean/fix it up? I didn't remember that there was house arrest. That is really extreme! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 19:12:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j460C3Wm017820 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:12:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:12:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062075D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:12:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:12:02 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j460C29G013220 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:12:02 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.1eb.3a7cfa15 (4380) for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:11:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1eb.3a7cfa15.2fac104d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:11:57 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] I guess Google isn't celebration this one... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 5/5/2005 4:17:22 PM Central Daylight Time, whore@WORDS-L.ORG writes: << And after the Pope died, flags were at half mast for a week! At least that's what it looked like. What a pathetic low point for the city ... >> Well, he was the leader of a sovereign country. What are the rules for displaying the flag when the head of a country dies? Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 19:20:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j460KcWm019107 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:20:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:20:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00620783@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:20:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 735044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:20:38 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j460KcxK014248 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:20:38 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 May 2005 20:20:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:20:29 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What are the rules for displaying the flag when the head of a country dies? >Evelyn Duncan Usually it is until the funeral - which was what the official declaration was for JPII Some places chose to keep the flags at half staff for the entire nine-day mourning period tht the Vatican declared. BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 19:26:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j460Q0Wm019722 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:26:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:26:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00620797@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:25:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 735284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:25:59 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j460Px1H014602 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:25:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 May 2005 20:25:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:25:21 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Brit returns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The map is starting to have colours. I don't care all that much about the election itself but the graphics are fun BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 19:26:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j460QlWm019796 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:26:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:26:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F4A025@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:26:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:26:46 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j460Git2013652 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:16:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 29255 invoked by uid 1003); 6 May 2005 00:16:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:16:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Message-ID: <20050506001644.GA25980@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1163534292.20050505142429@gailndan.com> <20050505210708.GA19272@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705050514206d4711f1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050514206d4711f1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 04:20:21PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/5/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 02:24:29PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > > Of course in Chicago everything closes on Good Friday, too. > > > > And after the Pope died, flags were at half mast for a week! > > At least that's what it looked like. What a pathetic low point > > for the city ... > > I suspect The Polish Factor was a huge influence on that one. Excellent suspicion! Of course it was the "Polish Factor", and there is no dearth of Mexicans either. That's what I mean by low point. It's like on words-l. Any PRINCIPLES per se--what's state, what's religion, what's public, what's private--are completely out the window. Let's just all play it by ear, consult our "feelings" ... you know, what was not so long ago described as acting in "bold strokes". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 19:27:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j460RJWm019852 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:27:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:27:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006208A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:27:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:27:18 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j460HGdK013796 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:17:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 29576 invoked by uid 1003); 6 May 2005 00:17:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:17:16 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <20050506001716.GB25980@words-l.org> References: <200505050108.j4518KVv014962@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <105301c55170$6f11c630$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050505063275a06465@mail.gmail.com> <36618089.20050505105057@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705050510105b89f68e@mail.gmail.com> <455900840.20050505112817@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050505103444d0a25e@mail.gmail.com> <1245599429.20050505142203@gailndan.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050505132836.00c04890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705050514246b360fc2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050514246b360fc2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 04:24:04PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/5/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > Has anyone ever checked to see how many sons or daughters of our > > congressmen and women are doing their patriotic duty and serving in the > > military? How many in Iraq? > > > http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:GUZhwsrdl00J:www.bowlingfortruth.com/fahrenheit911/warsignup.htm+congressman+children+in+armed+forces&hl=en > > > My nephew is home and he gets to go to Ohio in October. > > > > Another 4-letter country.:) I bet his name is "Chad" ... har From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 19:28:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j460SRWm019981 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 19:28:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:28:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006207A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:28:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:28:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j460IPHZ013941 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:18:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 30206 invoked by uid 1003); 6 May 2005 00:18:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:18:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Message-ID: <20050506001825.GC25980@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 05:23:45PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > What's hapening with the salt-stain Mary? Did she wash away or are > people still going to see her? It was there Sunday night ... a little rickety shrine around it etc ... reminded me of Mumbai From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 20:45:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j461jjWm029494 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:45:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 20:45:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062091E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:45:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 738794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:45:45 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j461Zgof019479 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:35:42 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j461ZAq9022552 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 5 May 2005 21:35:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:35:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: end of semester! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I still have papers to grade and grades to average, but I met my last class session today (a final exam. period that we used for other activities), and I am feeling remarkably free. Perhaps I will eventually want to r-e-t-i-r-e. OTOH, I am already looking forward to the classes I will teach Fall 2005 and Spring 2006. I will teach a total of 3 new courses next academic year: Rhetoric of Legal Discourse, Trash Talk - and an Independent Study course for s small group of undergraduates who want to hone their research paper writing skills - all have dialect interference issues. (I know - dialect interference is widely thought to be a myth today - it ain't!). It helps, of course, that I am flying to Barcelona in a few days - but first I need to get my PP slides ready for the three lectures I will give - I do look forward to leaving the continent for a bit. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 21:28:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j462RwWm002360 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:28:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 21:28:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00620BB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:27:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 744478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:27:58 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j462RsDn027761 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:27:54 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F4A4A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:27:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200505060227.j462RsDn027761@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:27:54 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:37:35 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >At 03:23 PM 5/5/2005 -0500, you wrote: >>On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 10:29:13AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >> > Well, the website says it is tomorrow. But looked at some of the pix >> > of last year. Hell, those guys are wearing boxers longer than my gym >> > shorts. What weenies and wimps. >> >>Wrong! They are snarky little miscreants. > >I saw a tighty whitey. An art student packing his car in the turnaround by my office was displaying a goodly percentage (say, 30%) of the surface of his plaid boxers this evening. V offered to park there a while for my enjoyment, but I passed on this pleasure. I'll make do with utilikilts, but otherwise for me it's pants or REALLY nopants. We marveled again at frequent relevance of a line from some Mystery show in 91 or so - a woman in knickers and nylons can be the most beautiful sight in the world; but a man in boxers and socks is one of the most ridiculous. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 21:33:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j462WuWm002981 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:32:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 21:33:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00620BCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:32:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 744707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:32:56 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j462WrEI028248 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:32:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F4A4C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:32:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200505060232.j462WrEI028248@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:32:53 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:18:25 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 05:23:45PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> What's hapening with the salt-stain Mary? Did she wash away or are >> people still going to see her? > >It was there Sunday night ... a little rickety shrine around >it etc ... reminded me of Mumbai Ahh, Mumbai. Maybe one day I will understand that comparison. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 21:45:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j462jnWm004578 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:45:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 21:45:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620B4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:45:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 745364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:45:49 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j462jnfi029134 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:45:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.184]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050506024549.HCDS2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:45:49 -0400 Message-ID: <427ADA5B.3080706@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:45:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny References: <427AA836.1030207@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050516521a5ea990@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050516521a5ea990@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Actually, I guess it's more sad than funny. Remember the house/yard I >>told y'all about that resulted in the house arrest of the owner with >>instructions to clean/fix it up? >> >> > >I didn't remember that there was house arrest. That is really extreme! > > I'm surprised you don't remember since the discussion went on for a while, with Dan talking about how he thought it was a good thing that he lived in a neighborhood that dictated the number of trees planted and Bonnie (I think) talked about the danger of a nearby porch in bad shape, etc. etc. I said that all this man had done was let his house get a bit scruffy, as in lack of paint and strange things over the windows, and have a bunch of pots of dead plants in his yard. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 21:48:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j462mWWm004943 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:48:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 21:48:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620B57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:48:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 745452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:48:32 -0400 Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j462mVSr029261 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:48:32 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.7e.690d28e9 (4012) for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:48:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7e.690d28e9.2fac34fc@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:48:28 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Survey To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 5/5/2005 3:31:26 PM Central Daylight Time, bclark@BERKELEY.EDU writes: << My nephew is home and he gets to go to Ohio in October. >> Where in Ohio? It can be pretty in October. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 21:50:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j462nvWm005122 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:49:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 21:50:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00620A57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:49:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 745558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:49:56 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j462nucM029388 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:49:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.82.184]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050506024956.HESW2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:49:56 -0400 Message-ID: <427ADB52.7000701@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:49:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: end of semester! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > and I am feeling remarkably free. Perhaps I will eventually >want to r-e-t-i-r-e. > > I highly recommend freedom -- though it's very easy to become over-committed, as I think I've done. Still, though, I am loving retirement. > all have dialect interference issues. (I know - dialect >interference is widely thought to be a myth today - it ain't!). > > I love this confirmation that I'm too out of the loop now to say yes to teaching again under any circumstance. I didn't know that dialect interference was considered a myth today. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 21:52:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j462qYWm005423 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:52:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 21:52:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620B73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:52:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 745745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:52:33 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j462qXiX029571 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:52:33 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 57390915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 05 May 2005 19:52:30 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050505195145.02806540@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:53:04 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <7e.690d28e9.2fac34fc@aol.com> References: <7e.690d28e9.2fac34fc@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:48 PM 5/5/2005, Evelyn wrote: >In a message dated 5/5/2005 3:31:26 PM Central Daylight Time, >bclark@BERKELEY.EDU writes: ><< >My nephew is home and he gets to go to Ohio in October. > >> > >Where in Ohio? It can be pretty in October. Dayton. His wife has never lived any place except San Diego. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 21:55:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j462swWm005644 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 21:54:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 21:55:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00620C32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:54:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 745907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:54:57 -0400 Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com (imo-m22.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j462svmI029760 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:54:57 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.9d.5f510ff6 (3874) for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:54:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9d.5f510ff6.2fac367a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:54:50 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] I guess Google isn't celebration this one... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 5/5/2005 7:20:47 PM Central Daylight Time, prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: << Some places chose to keep the flags at half staff for the entire nine-day mourning period tht the Vatican declared. >> There were a lot of places here that didn't lower their flags, but they didn't for President Reagan's funeral, either. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 22:10:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j463AJWm008072 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:10:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 22:10:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00620EF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:10:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 750617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:10:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j463AIY8032244 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:10:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3018712nzp for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 20:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.11 with SMTP id a11mr516020nzc; Thu, 05 May 2005 20:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:10:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Jn8UZeliByJLJVzoH/IAb7y/nGPfYm5q+DzYcHLdqwf1sixmYwBXkyz/85l0+eVW5IJ2SvRUNsnHemQe21hNils4kutsm6r54n0MHelRI5VGOZUt9RogfN9MG9Vf8umgvaxmc8KW0x13K9zYa2kCchLQ9bZ/xGS24AlmJ6Of8Ls= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505052010215538b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:10:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny In-Reply-To: <427ADA5B.3080706@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427AA836.1030207@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705050516521a5ea990@mail.gmail.com> <427ADA5B.3080706@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j463AJWm008072 On 5/5/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > >I didn't remember that there was house arrest. That is really extreme! > > > > > I'm surprised you don't remember since the discussion went on for a > while, I remember the discussion, in all its excruciating detail. I just don't remember the house arrest part. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 5 22:32:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j463WQWm010496 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 22:32:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 22:32:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00620EA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:32:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 751751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:32:22 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j463WLW7001632 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:32:21 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F4A80A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 5 May 2005 23:32:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200505060332.j463WLW7001632@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 23:32:20 -0400 From: JMW Subject: Re: Los Dos Molinos! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 5 May 2005 09:36:23 -0400, Marieber Meeber wrote: >Next year the MLA annual meeting (my MLA) is in Phoenix. I hope I can >persuade you and Mr. Williams to join me for a meal at LDM -- so ya'll can >set me straight. Whoa, come on down! If the number 4 doesn't cure what ails you more severe methods and/or combinations are available. Damn, and there're so many of them, too... 8-) John From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 06:48:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46Bm3Wm016234 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 06:48:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:48:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F4B0EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 7:48:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 645861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:48:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46Bm2j9028145 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:48:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3144103nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 04:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.91.2 with SMTP id o2mr563946nzb; Fri, 06 May 2005 04:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 04:48:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=cupNwkpb1o1gYpMynMZAMQWZlC4tvRLjMHKKtJQuRYorbKb653WKOp0c4ofAComdXIjlJTQQlsiD0L78MlTsDzqvvBnwQBBiRgDgquZA5n822GLadaW6RXfzHvrtxROoyu2NEHyOtcWP10ky8RZClwvkEUoa6f70W/GNEQEa89E= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050604486856a6a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 06:48:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Good morning! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j46Bm3Wm016234 A Prairie Home Companion joke to start your day: "Doctor," said the patient. "I can't stop singing 'The Green, Green Grass of Home.'" "Sounds like Tom Jones Syndrom to me," the doctor replies. "Is that common?" "It's not unusual." Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! 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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 07:15:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46CFPWm020248 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:15:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 07:15:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006215FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 8:15:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 647630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:15:24 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46CFOl9031700 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:15:24 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 796D533A14FC7 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:14:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000b01c55235$23a92880$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705050604486856a6a8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Good morning! Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:14:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:48 AM Subject: Good morning! A Prairie Home Companion joke to start your day: "Doctor," said the patient. "I can't stop singing 'The Green, Green Grass of Home.'" "Sounds like Tom Jones Syndrom to me," the doctor replies. "Is that common?" "It's not unusual." Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Karen (listening to an NPR story about Christian law schools) I was listening to that too. Couldn't believe my ears. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 07:16:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46CGgWm020414 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:16:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 07:16:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006217BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 8:16:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 647705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:16:42 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46CGDno031785 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:16:13 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:16:13 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 08:16:08 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Good morning! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU :-) (I've actually heard this one before, but I still think it's funny) >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/6/2005 7:48:02 AM >>> A Prairie Home Companion joke to start your day: "Doctor," said the patient. "I can't stop singing 'The Green, Green Grass of Home.'" "Sounds like Tom Jones Syndrom to me," the doctor replies. "Is that common?" "It's not unusual." Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Karen (listening to an NPR story about Christian law schools) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 07:24:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46COrWm021282 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:24:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 07:24:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F4B236@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 8:24:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 648194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:24:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46COq0C032561 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:24:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3155167nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 05:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.3 with SMTP id a3mr563401nzc; Fri, 06 May 2005 05:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 05:24:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ABDyo6Lwxo0OSuenXnkQJnQoyFb+kiRE9fs8tqH/byq9XBQ0Z3Wad2ZdGgCjw2b73YVZwodXAHYqRDbDxyhUKYB/sb3Lx/WXXkO7Ox7gFsvZVTFI2S75hglPcRT2OdXchcXHWzCdPsFoWAAWUNlwSV5OUS72DKbdDmcKJwlmYCQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050605242be457d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:24:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good morning! In-Reply-To: <000b01c55235$23a92880$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050604486856a6a8@mail.gmail.com> <000b01c55235$23a92880$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j46COrWm021282 On 5/6/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:48 AM > Subject: Good morning! > > A Prairie Home Companion joke to start your day: > > "Doctor," said the patient. "I can't stop singing 'The Green, Green Grass > of > Home.'" > "Sounds like Tom Jones Syndrom to me," the doctor replies. > "Is that common?" > "It's not unusual." > > Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! > > Karen > (listening to an NPR story about Christian law schools) > > I was listening to that too. Couldn't > believe my ears. > Ooh, freaky. I didn't get it off the air, but off a website... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 07:30:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46CUQWm021895 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:30:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 07:30:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F4B25F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 8:30:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 648385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:30:25 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46CUJpR000430 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:30:19 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:30:18 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 08:29:53 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: I continue to be amazed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU another cool picture from Cassini Mimas, Dione and Rhea, on the far side of Saturn's nearly edge-on rings http://tinyurl.com/7m4rk BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 07:49:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46CnFWm024924 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 07:49:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 07:49:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00621847@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 8:39:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 649229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:39:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46CdFmP001815 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:39:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3159966nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 05:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.9 with SMTP id b9mr552921nzc; Fri, 06 May 2005 05:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 05:39:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kF622WyGHzPTNpDd1zPt/lgLwdP1EVEsoBXXctWcDrrQQJlw6aK1M9S9w+qyzwxr+8AjV3Ws5H5CQKcYFEm9AhTchhjG2foh/JYo1xnxpIhA1zaEtUEXBqAdljpJaLjuknDXx9qzwgRyxvlgwOlyqVdOViptHmk9gkA8go7Cly0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050605395e875aaf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:39:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good morning! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j46CnFWm024924 Which room will a ghost never need? On 5/6/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > :-) > > (I've actually heard this one before, but I still think it's funny) > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/6/2005 7:48:02 AM >>> > A Prairie Home Companion joke to start your day: > > "Doctor," said the patient. "I can't stop singing 'The Green, Green > Grass of > Home.'" > "Sounds like Tom Jones Syndrom to me," the doctor replies. > "Is that common?" > "It's not unusual." > > Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! > > Karen > (listening to an NPR story about Christian law schools) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 08:20:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46DKTWm029877 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:20:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:20:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00621992@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 9:12:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 653782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:12:01 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46DC0G4006214 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:12:00 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:12:00 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:11:31 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Good morning! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ok. try this one what's the punch line? BrP --------------------------------- A guy walks into a bar and is considering what he'd like to drink. He spots a strange-looking bottle full of a blue liquid. He calls the bartender over and asks, "What's that?" The bartender says, "Oh, that's new. That's liquid Viagra." the guy says >>> leonard@BC.EDU 5/6/2005 9:00:27 AM >>> A Friend of Andy wrote: >Which room will a ghost never need? > > > Living Room? Rita L. - avoiding work for a few minutes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 08:20:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46DKTWm029876 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:20:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:20:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00621A9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 9:15:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 654546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:15:43 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46DFgHZ006761 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:15:43 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 90325516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:15:17 -0400 Message-ID: <427B6DFE.9000709@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:15:42 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good morning! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hmmm... is it "O.K. I'm up for that." ? Paul Barfoot wrote: >ok. try this one >what's the punch line? > >BrP >--------------------------------- > > >A guy walks into a bar and is considering what he'd like to drink. He >spots a strange-looking bottle full of a blue liquid. He calls the >bartender over and asks, "What's that?" > >The bartender says, "Oh, that's new. That's liquid Viagra." > >the guy says > > > > > >>>>leonard@BC.EDU 5/6/2005 9:00:27 AM >>> >>>> >>>> >A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > >>Which room will a ghost never need? >> >> >> >> >> >Living Room? > >Rita L. - avoiding work for a few minutes. > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 08:20:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46DKTWm029878 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:20:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:20:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00621907@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 9:00:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 651114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:00:29 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46D0Sb5004531 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:00:29 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 90323389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:00:03 -0400 Message-ID: <427B6A6B.1000207@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:00:27 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good morning! References: <8ddfc8a705050605395e875aaf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050605395e875aaf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Which room will a ghost never need? > > > Living Room? Rita L. - avoiding work for a few minutes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 08:21:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46DLXWm030042 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:21:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:21:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00621AB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 9:21:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 656216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:21:32 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46DLWEI007944 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:21:32 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:21:32 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:21:05 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Good morning! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "pour me a stiff one" >>> leonard@BC.EDU 5/6/2005 9:15:42 AM >>> Hmmm... is it "O.K. I'm up for that." ? Paul Barfoot wrote: >ok. try this one >what's the punch line? > >BrP >--------------------------------- > > >A guy walks into a bar and is considering what he'd like to drink. He >spots a strange-looking bottle full of a blue liquid. He calls the >bartender over and asks, "What's that?" > >The bartender says, "Oh, that's new. That's liquid Viagra." > >the guy says > > > > > >>>>leonard@BC.EDU 5/6/2005 9:00:27 AM >>> >>>> >>>> >A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > >>Which room will a ghost never need? >> >> >> >> >> >Living Room? > >Rita L. - avoiding work for a few minutes. > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 08:26:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46DQkWm030600 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:26:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:26:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00621B45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 9:26:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 657517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:26:45 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46DQj6E009296 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:26:45 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:26:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:26:34 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Good morning! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU it's also a Garrison Keilor joke His annual joke show is an interesting phenomenon. He tells the worst jokes - jokes that I would normally not find all that funny. But there is a cumulative effect, and I find myself laughing hysterically by the end. Then later, when I think about the jokes that had me rolling on the floor, they have suddenly become not all that funny again. It reminds me of the sixties. BrP >>> Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU 5/6/2005 9:21:05 AM >>> "pour me a stiff one" >>> leonard@BC.EDU 5/6/2005 9:15:42 AM >>> Hmmm... is it "O.K. I'm up for that." ? Paul Barfoot wrote: >ok. try this one >what's the punch line? > >BrP >--------------------------------- > > >A guy walks into a bar and is considering what he'd like to drink. He >spots a strange-looking bottle full of a blue liquid. He calls the >bartender over and asks, "What's that?" > >The bartender says, "Oh, that's new. That's liquid Viagra." > >the guy says > > > > > >>>>leonard@BC.EDU 5/6/2005 9:00:27 AM >>> >>>> >>>> >A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > >>Which room will a ghost never need? >> >> >> >> >> >Living Room? > >Rita L. - avoiding work for a few minutes. > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 08:27:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46DRZWm030698 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:27:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:27:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00621B5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 9:27:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 657701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:27:35 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46DRZes009440 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:27:35 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 96460811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:27:44 -0400 Message-ID: <427B70C6.1040407@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:27:34 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good morning! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >"pour me a stiff one" > > > Ah! I guess I don't spend enough time in bars to have adopted the jargon :-) Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 08:43:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46DgvWm000246 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:42:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:43:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F4B927@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 9:42:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 661937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:42:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46DgUNr012703 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:42:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3184135nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.8 with SMTP id l8mr577607nzl; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UM+i7s1kfzeoNevptWftQxVXkY3B26qL/dDLWTYTBhM28V5keDrS3u6FFODTKqQeMK2riwZdCK0pM2IE70x52d/OIpfUITZijuzB06MYEjrd10MGuBu/zz+WDn0WMI5wG6UkFSPIev+0bWGGXRV0teK8aWdROKh8cLr17wRVZnA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505060642569d7d79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:42:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good morning! In-Reply-To: <427B6A6B.1000207@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050605395e875aaf@mail.gmail.com> <427B6A6B.1000207@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j46DgvWm000246 Yes. On 5/6/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >Which room will a ghost never need? > > > > > > > Living Room? > > Rita L. - avoiding work for a few minutes. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 08:43:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46DhAWm000264 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 08:43:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:43:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00621DF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 9:43:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 662100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:43:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46Dh92G012967 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:43:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3184423nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.3 with SMTP id k3mr574996nzk; Fri, 06 May 2005 06:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 06:43:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IYV+BWFCJOUBm3N8FPS5L/xFd6RwYniNk3gcZTEAwLfKNWXDSOPzIalP6cw0a7pIWmVRIwLhUgaqoHfLLnaqMK2wIqPIjX3PJM/ikNLr16W8wr5lJ983a6cAeFXIdj4Z6T4Zp8cKz8HpiPiMp11bY86BSr0KeSPZvmsGoHgg+kw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050606431b777d3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:43:06 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good morning! In-Reply-To: <427B70C6.1040407@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427B70C6.1040407@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j46DhAWm000264 It's a very boy joke, I think. On 5/6/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >"pour me a stiff one" > > > > > > > Ah! I guess I don't spend enough time in bars to have adopted the > jargon :-) > > Rita L. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 09:35:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46EZKWm008081 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:35:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:35:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006221C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:35:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 672544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:35:20 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46EPKpR024078 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:25:20 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j46EOlLn007015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:24:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:25:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Euros! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have not been to continental Europe since Euros were adopted, so I will be using them for the first time on my trip to Spain. I now have Euro TCs and my cash will arrive early next week. I was not certain I would get TCs until I learned that I can exchange them for TCs in any other currency I like if I do not use them, or all of them. (I prefer to use credit cards, but like to have backups. I will be able to pay most expenses - room, etc. - with a credit card.) I am finally beginning to believe that I will actually get out of here for a few days ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 09:59:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46ExDWm011139 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:59:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:59:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F4C09B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:59:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 678006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:59:08 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46Ex7Sw032723 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:59:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18931928 for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 07:59:29 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 6 May 2005 07:59:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:59:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <143466339.20050506085906@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <20050505210708.GA19272@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1163534292.20050505142429@gailndan.com> <20050505210708.GA19272@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 187, in=64376, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 3:07 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 02:24:29PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >> Of course in Chicago everything closes on Good Friday, too. DMH> And after the Pope died, flags were at half mast for a week! DMH> At least that's what it looked like. What a pathetic low point DMH> for the city ... That wasn't just in Chicago. It was everywhere. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 10:09:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46F97Wm012862 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:09:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:09:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062271B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:09:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 677999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:09:06 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j46Ex6sc032697 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:59:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 41247 invoked by uid 1003); 6 May 2005 14:59:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:59:05 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good morning! Message-ID: <20050506145905.GA39996@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705050604486856a6a8@mail.gmail.com> <000b01c55235$23a92880$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705050605242be457d6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050605242be457d6@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 07:24:52AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/6/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A Friend of Andy" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:48 AM > > Subject: Good morning! > > > > A Prairie Home Companion joke to start your day: > > > > "Doctor," said the patient. "I can't stop singing 'The Green, Green Grass > > of > > Home.'" > > "Sounds like Tom Jones Syndrom to me," the doctor replies. > > "Is that common?" > > "It's not unusual." > > > > Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! > > > > Karen > > (listening to an NPR story about Christian law schools) > > > > I was listening to that too. Couldn't > > believe my ears. > > > > Ooh, freaky. I didn't get it off the air, but off a website... It's certainly a powerful meme! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 10:12:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46FCMWm013212 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:12:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:12:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F4C116@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:02:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 678582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:02:22 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46F2LZJ001235 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:02:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18936602 for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 08:30:59 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 6 May 2005 08:02:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:02:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <99160415.20050506090221@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050514206d4711f1@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1163534292.20050505142429@gailndan.com> <20050505210708.GA19272@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705050514206d4711f1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 185, in=67429, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/5/2005, 3:20 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> And after the Pope died, flags were at half mast for a week! >> At least that's what it looked like. What a pathetic low point >> for the city ... >> AFoA> I suspect The Polish Factor was a huge influence on that one. Nope. The President Factor. President Bush Orders Flags Flown at Half Staff in Honor of Pope John Paul II A Proclamation by the President of the United States of America As a mark of respect for His Holiness Pope John Paul II, I hereby order, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, that the flag of the United States shall be flown at half staff at the White House and on all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the Federal Government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its Territories and possessions until sunset on the day of his interment. I also direct that the flag shall be flown at half staff for the same period at all United States embassies, legations, consular offices, and other facilities abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and stations. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this second day of April, in the year of our Lord two thousand five, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and twenty ninth. GEORGE W. BUSH From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 11:26:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46GQjWm023254 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:26:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 11:26:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00622C96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:26:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 688040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:26:45 -0400 Received: from web60713.mail.yahoo.com (web60713.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.216]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j46GQj4C027692 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:26:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 62015 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2005 16:26:45 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60713.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:26:44 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=eA5k4NjMSD0gF6sjJruBFFIvTGZy5UEt/BUKOyjaGtU+6z0L2ehqCv5kUlKY9XbW0rx+xZMTVIrcu+hVqyVmsh4vgK5dIwGOQk4NELdK8mKAsUy1kZhdpdhzL97gk6Dg9rfIg3ELQAZt4kFUeOzcFe1Y8ReW8c77lHsVLvNwUGI= ; Message-ID: <20050506162645.62013.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:26:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Dan Lester wrote: > 5/5/2005, 3:07 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > DMH> And after the Pope died, flags were at half > mast for a week! > DMH> At least that's what it looked like. What a > pathetic low point > DMH> for the city ... > > That wasn't just in Chicago. It was everywhere. We received a White House memo requesting flags be flown at half staff for 9 days. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 11:28:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46GRtWm023429 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:27:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 11:28:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00622B90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:27:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 688086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:27:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46GRsEW027845 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:27:54 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1295274wra for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.89.13 with SMTP id m13mr914750wrb; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 09:27:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qYb6okzjyuIy8F/MgNQKYMznbWhTNDihs5Gs7WnuBlqv7sxrMzH6CE8dTRPcDbtvd3cqTqeUHdnxIa0lAg32jcXrTNNz6zZtP7sd8UbRzeeRJBDmc89v0Rt8X/WYF+2yUpobPE0FZlMQZdeN8kzEdFH1TmFs1d4G3F/CZAV6qMg= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:27:53 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Friday, May 6, Day Nine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j46GRtWm023429 I sent this to a bunch of friends and didn't copy words-l and then thought, hell why not: This is the day we sail back through the scenic Raftsundet. It will be mid-afternoon when we pass the Trollfjord rather than midnight. Already at 1 p.m. we can see the Loftoten Mountains looming ahead. This is also the day that an excursion leaves the ship at one port and catches up with it two ports later. We wondered if bus and boat would signal each other at the bridge into Sortland as they did last year. We were 20 minutes late because of an unusual amount of cargo to take on at Risoyham. But, when we reached the Sortland bridge, there were our two buses slowly driving the rise so that boat and bus would coincide at the peak. Someone on a bus has a picture of me waving wildly from the bow on Deck 6 as the ship's horn and the buses' lesser horns sounded. This and That: There are so many pretty sweaters on the boat that I am motivated to give up my resolve to never knit another complicated Norwegian sweater. In fact, I bought two pattern books and some of the traditoinal embroidered tape that lines the opening of Norwegian cardigans. A man on the boat is wearing an Icelandic sweater of the exact pattern that Susan and I are making for her daughter and grandbaby-to-be. Tonight's dinner appetizer is going to be whale meat. Will I be brave and try it? The food really has been excellent. The chef has a touch with seasoning, sauces, and vegetables. This time it is not simply boiled potatoes served at each dinner. I am, however, glad that I brought along my pocket pepper grind. I've been using it on eggs at breakfast and salads and soups at lunch and dinner. I've finished my second hard-back book. That's a total of 900 pages. I highly recommend "Saturday" by Ian McEwan. It takes place on Saturday, February 15, 2003 in London -- an eventful day for the neurosurgeon who is the main character. Lots of insighful musing on the Iraq war, families, society, and medicine. My favorite part of this trip might be the full-sized sofa in our cabin. I can stretch out on it with my left shoulder against the back (just like home) and watch the scenery go past our balcony on the back of the boat. I jump up to step outside for anything especially spectacular. Our cabin is wonderful: softer bed than last trip, tub rather than shower stall, fresh fruit each day, turn-down service in the evening with a mint on our pillows and fresh ice in the bucket, a TV whose only channel we've watched is the one that shows the view off the bow of our boat. A small brass band met the boat at one small port yesterday. We only stayed there for 15 minutes. They played the whole time. On open deck 9 this morning there was folk dancing. No one was under the age of 60. They sure looked like they were having a good time, bundled in their sweaters or jackets, doing a circle dance, changing partners, and stomping their feet. Yesterday was the feast of the Ascension of Jesus. Stores were closed in Hammerfest. An annoucement onboard asked us to be respectful if we visited the local church because they were having a Confirmation ceremoony. That's the church were last year I lit a candle for my friend Holly who was keeping vigil at her mother's deathbed. The sea was rough the night we left the North Cape and sailed for the Russian border, our turn-around point. But when we crossed that stretch of open sea again the next night, things we very much calmer. Thank goodness. We did see reindeer on our bus trip to the North Cape. I couldn't tell if the albino reindeer was still at the Sami camp because all the reindeer still had their white, winter coats. I bought myself a little Sami Santa Claus. I do not like all the light. I stayed up until midnight last night to watch us sail into Tromso. Although it was overcast, there was daylight all around. Very strange. I don't think I could live with the midnight sun. Darkness for two months would be easier on me. Tonight we will cross the open waters of the Vestfjord and come into Bodo just after midnight. The boat will cross the Arctic Circle tomorow. Trondheim will be early morning on Sunday, Alesand in the middle of the night, and we will be back in Bergen on Monday afternoon. Right now I shall go join Clyde and his camera out on deck as we approach the Loftotens and the Raftstundet. Love to everyone and kisses to my kitties. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 11:31:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46GVTWm023953 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:31:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 11:31:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00622CB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:31:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 688383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:31:29 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46GVSYa028288 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:31:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18662200 for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:47:42 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 6 May 2005 09:31:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:31:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1669077803.20050506103128@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <20050506162645.62013.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> References: 6667 <20050506162645.62013.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 189, in=65615, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Right. And if I remember correctly from what I posted since then, it wasn't a request, but an order, for federal agencies. 5/6/2005, 10:26 AM, Lynne Weber wrote: >> That wasn't just in Chicago. It was everywhere. LW> We received a White House memo requesting flags be LW> flown at half staff for 9 days. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:12:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46HBwWm030949 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:12:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00622C9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:53:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 691212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:53:02 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46Gr12Z032693 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:53:01 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 100582440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:52:48 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050506095231.02df56a8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:52:48 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <20050506162645.62013.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> References: <6667> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:26 AM 5/6/2005 -0700, you wrote: >--- Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/5/2005, 3:07 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> And after the Pope died, flags were at half > > mast for a week! > > DMH> At least that's what it looked like. What a > > pathetic low point > > DMH> for the city ... > > > > That wasn't just in Chicago. It was everywhere. > >We received a White House memo requesting flags be >flown at half staff for 9 days. I wonder if he is going to address no pants day? B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:12:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46HBwWm030951 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:12:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00622D9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:51:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 691024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:51:57 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46GpvnV032432 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:51:57 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 57527207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 09:51:56 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050506095114.00c3e4d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:51:56 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Euros! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:25 AM 5/6/2005 -0400, you wrote: >I have not been to continental Europe since Euros were adopted, so I will >be using them for the first time on my trip to Spain. I now have Euro TCs >and my cash will arrive early next week. I was not certain I would get TCs >until I learned that I can exchange them for TCs in any other currency I >like if I do not use them, or all of them. (I prefer to use credit cards, >but like to have backups. I will be able to pay most expenses - room, >etc. - with a credit card.) > >I am finally beginning to believe that I will actually get out of here for >a few days ... > >Bethany We just got notice that our credit card is going to charge an addition 3-4% (I forgot which) for using it in Europe. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:12:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46HBwWm030953 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:12:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00622D58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:02:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:02:56 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46H2u9B002765 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:02:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 18953113 for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:31:34 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 6 May 2005 10:03:16 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:02:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1206412498.20050506110255@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 185, in=67525, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/6/2005, 10:57 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> all pants to be flown at half staff? Isn't that what all the stylin' young punks do already, so that they can show off their fancy ass boxers? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:12:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46HBwWm030952 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:12:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00622F00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:02:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 692968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:02:25 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46H2P97002629 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:02:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 18948796 for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:02:47 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 6 May 2005 10:02:45 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:02:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18310363841.20050506110224@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050506095231.02df56a8@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <6667> <5.2.1.1.2.20050506095231.02df56a8@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 187, in=64463, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/6/2005, 10:52 AM, Betty Clark wrote: >>We received a White House memo requesting flags be >>flown at half staff for 9 days. BC> I wonder if he is going to address no pants day? Well, looked like their pants were already at half staff. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:12:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46HBwWm030950 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:12:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00622CDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:58:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 691905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:58:13 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46GwCvf001303 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:58:13 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:58:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:57:55 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU all pants to be flown at half staff? BrP >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 5/6/2005 12:52:48 PM >>> >We received a White House memo requesting flags be >flown at half staff for 9 days. I wonder if he is going to address no pants day? B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:12:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46HBwWn030949 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:12:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:12:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00622D61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:03:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:03:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46H3Mh2002894 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:03:23 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3278830nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.19 with SMTP id l19mr655242nzb; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:03:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XjYSZhp6ntm08t2bEs2+4g/dfKnq+GMnFhjoYFrDKuqx2UnWamG8bor2IfoC0bxMi3hLfPvUZtA4hjZdpp8Q6PIM9cUTXxUJ5kCUOlkuFfU2Vs8gIG9HgLE7jxd9wbpv9IC07O4cnPcifinm/fcIVxVz9gYk94v2b8lscX9+Opw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505061003f4420c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:03:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j46HBwWn030949 That's SO hiphop. On 5/6/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > all pants to be flown at half staff? > > BrP > > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 5/6/2005 12:52:48 PM >>> > > >We received a White House memo requesting flags be > >flown at half staff for 9 days. > > I wonder if he is going to address no pants day? > > B > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:12:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46HBwWn030951 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:12:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:12:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00622F34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:04:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:04:20 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46H4Jov003118 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:04:20 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:04:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:03:55 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: they're getting cleverer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just got one of those Nigeria-type "unclaimed money" emails. This time they have the name of the person who died suddenly and left all the money in their bank having my surname and the letter says they think I am the only legitimate heir. Damn! I'll bet this one will reel in a few more than the usual number of idiots. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:33:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46HXKWm000510 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:33:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:33:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062310C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:33:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:33:19 -0400 Received: from web60720.mail.yahoo.com (web60720.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.208]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j46HXJ38009435 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:33:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 63348 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2005 17:33:19 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60720.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:33:19 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=wdGNcvAUGfRCG4M5l6bmFyyMW5y8zF+Pq5l4vyF0uUSWYlwkPaajzhllIkdA1yFyMutay5Uv9weQzdXAaRefuW8KOuZar64Wxoh2RdT9ccrJsqMI8YX/kGvYn4p4Q5dO11hJL97Y14oJRXncy3hr4Z0+bPJcETBmqfd6IdziviU= ; Message-ID: <20050506173319.63346.qmail@web60720.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Dan Lester wrote: > Right. And if I remember correctly from what I > posted since then, it > wasn't a request, but an order, for federal > agencies. Well, thank God we ain't Federal. Believe me, there is enough rubbish going on at a municipal level. We are rapidly approaching the point where the Civil Service Board may have to intervene to eliminate some illegal activities. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:34:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46HYgWm000637 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:34:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:34:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00622F54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:34:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:34:41 -0400 Received: from web60717.mail.yahoo.com (web60717.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j46HYfSt009714 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:34:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 21551 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2005 17:34:41 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60717.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:34:41 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=EXPXBuz+ip1X4llJRPSwVl38VTph8JDBdoMnq4TPGZlwblMChx2YMSv5nRiAQJptx7bDm8+q4NNVkJ8EN1N1IwCmwlB5ZezkEsD7RjK63FZskHBSi3B8uSqUtLrDp2qZtxbikqJa7tSoe1jjOCe28B9EEio6G8su/o/4KKjHKKw= ; Message-ID: <20050506173441.21549.qmail@web60717.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:34:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty Clark wrote: > > I wonder if he is going to address no pants day? As in, "his breath comes in short pants"? Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=4eCKoFsjwqgkDjPXUJFID7Y2jIjzD4s8O10oRIhzi0UqcX4AnrOefR5iWcPuwuS9vO5Q0rbyCHYiGbzEdKHJqHglZqKoBVkevuZdIk9OjpnC1M+EH+PkjFzahxuz1d5oKyHt6ArrULRsU/6tfx1O/nSEyGbt939fWFwiZTxhDiQ= ; Message-ID: <20050506173810.3588.qmail@web60711.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:38:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: they're getting cleverer To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- A Friend of Andy wrote: > How could you be the only legitimate heir? Wouldn't > Jim be one, too? They don't have Jim's e-mail address yet. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:46:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46Hk2Wm002377 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:46:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:46:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623132@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:41:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:41:24 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46HfMEK011200 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:41:22 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 100598687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:41:22 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050506103907.00c54498@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:41:19 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: A challenge. In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are you bored? Maybe you can help my daughter out. She sent this request because she knows about you guys and looks forward to meeting more of you in a couple of weeks. She has already met Myles. _______________ I have a challenge for you or your more clever associates (words-l) if you choose to accept... A group of folks at the ASC will be participating in a symposium at the Society for Historical Archaeology meetings next year and they need a title for the symposium. The theme for the SHA meetings is "Life on the Edge" and most of our papers will be about life in San Francisco or Oakland in the 1860s-1890s. I'm currently stumped. :) Lorinda From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:46:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46Hk2Wm002372 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:46:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:46:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062311B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:36:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:36:37 -0400 Received: from web60724.mail.yahoo.com (web60724.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j46HaaHN010303 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:36:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 79172 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2005 17:36:36 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60724.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:36:36 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=U1wiMUvO9Q1yi3L58vdJ9QjBxQ/iz/LCLKetQE4Tr9jKc9eQS/Yod4r0vmSGRs1IGmOTd0T740QyffSQ9rWm0+Ks8K/NmeLtqdNZeAtri+ccgiUVzZi+rYh7o9NrylVdTt0+zLlbRXxB4SeuzzqLTRsXfYslgQ9RP/bWUCiqgEo= ; Message-ID: <20050506173636.79170.qmail@web60724.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:36:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Dan Lester wrote: > 5/6/2005, 10:57 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > PB> all pants to be flown at half staff? > > Isn't that what all the stylin' young punks do > already, so that they > can show off their fancy ass boxers? Boxers are not on their minds, they think they are showing off their fancy asses, period. __________________________________ Yahoo! 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Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:46:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46Hk2Wm002370 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:46:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:46:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623115@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:36:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:36:02 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46Ha1jC010075 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:36:01 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18668227 for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:52:16 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 6 May 2005 10:36:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:36:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1696061683.20050506113601@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: they're getting cleverer In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.056000 People just leave money laying around=1.1 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 189, in=65637, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Maybe it will. But doing a "mail merge" is hardly high tech, though it is pretty high tech for the spammers. My favorite one lately is the one saying "today is your absolutely last chance to get a mortgage of 2 percent" (or something equally stupid)....and then they send me several a day for weeks.... dan 5/6/2005, 11:03 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> I just got one of those Nigeria-type "unclaimed money" emails. This PB> time they have the name of the person who died suddenly and left all the PB> money in their bank having my surname and the letter says they think I PB> am the only legitimate heir. Damn! I'll bet this one will reel in a PB> few more than the usual number of idiots. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:46:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46Hk2Wm002376 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:46:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:46:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623116@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:36:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:36:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46HaD35010164 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:36:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3293134nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.91.2 with SMTP id o2mr664958nzb; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:34:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pl0JgeoMTyQuCEhSDyS74V786K7zmZ3iYjqa5SLK6PsL/h/dGfoovOOyzg9Aj9fHJaIIq1YHNf2UVgeohUZcu6qpFgjT4o0k2ZRcx/2YikSrxCrpdb2BHwKcSQHW9p3H7w/EqOB8ptc2e9XF3EpBuvzU+hB7PFhOtnCimIZz+/8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505061034383e5412@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:34:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: they're getting cleverer In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j46Hk2Wm002376 On 5/6/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I just got one of those Nigeria-type "unclaimed money" emails. This > time they have the name of the person who died suddenly and left all the > money in their bank having my surname and the letter says they think I > am the only legitimate heir. Damn! I'll bet this one will reel in a > few more than the usual number of idiots. How could you be the only legitimate heir? Wouldn't Jim be one, too? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:51:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46HprWm003051 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:51:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:51:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062320D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:51:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 700998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:49:46 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46HngEx013154 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:49:43 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:49:42 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:49:16 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: they're getting cleverer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU you're using logic logic does not apply to this case you're only expected to think with greed BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/6/2005 1:34:34 PM >>> On 5/6/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: How could you be the only legitimate heir? Wouldn't Jim be one, too? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 12:57:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46Hv0Wm003596 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 12:57:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:57:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062319A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:56:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:57:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46Huxhj014726 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:57:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3303564nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.3 with SMTP id a3mr678185nzc; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:56:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sXyRBILq3iVD0dyzYUN2rfEOBypEeO6ifa5g5q0TvwlUb3l+wW1ZwQhKpyjZ+TrikdkTyeShQlm9e4oRQUTGIjTo4YhvmXtNN4jgUx2AIJhEC3Srqw+mm4YmgTim5sYRKVk8saABIyO4D8JA9snw4eXZLcGMjkmeUR3i+H5zqw4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505061056108d2274@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:56:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: they're getting cleverer In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j46Hv0Wm003596 On 5/6/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > you're using logic > > logic does not apply to this case > > you're only expected to think with greed > Ah. That is so not you. Karen who needs to go buy Kitty Chow for the NEW CAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 13:06:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46I63Wm005277 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:06:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:06:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006232C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:06:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 702917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:06:03 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46I61Yl016165 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:06:01 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:06:00 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:05:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: they're getting cleverer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU oh but I wrote them right away and said "send me my $25.5 million" btw - today is Br Jim's birthday jimbarfoot@cox.net if anybody wants to send a H.B. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/6/2005 1:56:59 PM >>> On 5/6/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > you're using logic > > logic does not apply to this case > > you're only expected to think with greed > Ah. That is so not you. Karen who needs to go buy Kitty Chow for the NEW CAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 13:47:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46IlRWm010734 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:47:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:47:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062347B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:47:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 710231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:47:27 -0400 Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46IbRew021982 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:37:27 -0400 Received: from blueyonder.co.uk ([82.44.218.116]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 6 May 2005 19:38:05 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:39:05 +0100 Subject: Re: Brit elections Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1FE6B66B-BE5E-11D9-8E88-00039383D034@blueyonder.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2005 18:38:05.0918 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE17F7E0:01C5526A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, May 5, 2005, at 07:37 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Watch the returns at the BBC site's fun map: > > "See all the results live as they colour our map." > > http://tinyurl.com/9hpbz > > or http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/flash_map/html/map05.stm > if size matters to you I know exactly where it is. Believe me, I really do know. It's... Never mind. The TV graphics were better anyway. Remember this that I sent a month ago as a prediction. >> The Right Honourable member for Sedgefield will be returned and the >> Conservative party candidate will win the Uxbridge constituency. Well, the Right Honourable Tony Blair is still the member for Sedgefield and the Conservative did win Uxbridge (where my vote gets counted). At least we have the government I wanted, it's leadership is another matter. Now we wait for Blair to step down as he has stated that he will not run for the next election as leader of the Labour party. Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 14:29:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46JTYWm016526 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 14:29:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:29:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00623560@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:19:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 714052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:19:33 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46JJXkP029885 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:19:33 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2005050619201511200b8at7e>; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:20:15 +0000 Message-Id: <200505061919.j46JJXkP029885@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Brit elections Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:19:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <1FE6B66B-BE5E-11D9-8E88-00039383D034@blueyonder.co.uk> Thread-Index: AcVSbYsvrGIkHNUGThGVTfMWXD8PpwAAolyg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I know exactly where it is. Believe me, I really do know. It's... Never >mind. The TV graphics were better anyway. > >Remember this that I sent a month ago as a prediction. > >>> The Right Honourable member for Sedgefield will be returned and the >>> Conservative party candidate will win the Uxbridge constituency. > >Well, the Right Honourable Tony Blair is still the member for >Sedgefield and the Conservative did win Uxbridge (where my vote gets >counted). > >At least we have the government I wanted, it's leadership is another >matter. Now we wait for Blair to step down as he has stated that he >will not run for the next election as leader of the Labour party. > >Roy > Did you vote for Rod ? Bad turnout - 59% and 5.9% swing from Lab to Con. Alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 15:33:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46KX6Wm025155 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:33:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:33:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00623749@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:33:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 719962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:33:06 -0400 Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46KN5I8009277 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:23:05 -0400 Received: from blueyonder.co.uk ([82.44.218.116]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 6 May 2005 21:23:44 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:24:43 +0100 Subject: Re: Brit elections Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <200505061919.j46JJXkP029885@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2005 20:23:44.0022 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FE5E360:01C55279] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, May 6, 2005, at 08:19 PM, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > Did you vote for Rod ? Bad turnout - 59% and 5.9% swing from Lab to > Con. > Across the country a lot of people voted to stop the Conservatives winning but didn't want to vote Labour. That's why there was a large number of seats changing hands and the swing. There wasn't a large increase in the Tory vote but a move away from Labour. Uxbridge would normally only expect three candidates. This time there was a wider choice and the labour vote went elsewhere. The other half of the town I live in is in the Hayes and Harlington constituency where the result was (and usually is) very different. As for who I voted for, that is between me and where I put the cross on the paper. What the average turnout in the US for national elections? > Alec > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 15:54:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46KruWm027502 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:53:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:54:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006238C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:53:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:53:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46KrtMb015083 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 16:53:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3374933nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr734521nzb; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 13:53:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PKjM85b9KYWtknWjVAyHFSsxEGHMNIzLtRhvTv3HGcEsdI6XQ+aEmZTwpKBPSeafcEqJRdnp9Dp/CtY0HUfbt7c8aT+RiZqNXapspB3VNzopcrKcqtUcm2RG9xXljlYU/cIlU35lp2XQlHjp9vWbvndJ2bFBJ8TxkoJqnbX7SZ8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505061353395ae49e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:53:53 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brit elections In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505061919.j46JJXkP029885@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j46KruWm027502 On 5/6/05, Roy Jaques wrote: > > What the average turnout in the US for national elections? > http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Voter_Turnout From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 17:07:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46M6sWm003806 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:06:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 17:07:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623B8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:06:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 730419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:06:53 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46M6lEU028347 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:06:47 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F4D9C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:06:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200505062206.j46M6lEU028347@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:06:47 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A challenge. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 6 May 2005 10:41:19 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >Are you bored? Maybe you can help my daughter out. > >She sent this request because she knows about you guys and looks forward to >meeting more of you in a couple of weeks. She has already met Myles. >_______________ > >I have a challenge for you or your more clever >associates (words-l) if you choose to accept... > >A group of folks at the ASC will be participating in a >symposium at the Society for Historical Archaeology >meetings next year and they need a title for the >symposium. The theme for the SHA meetings is "Life on >the Edge" and most of our papers will be about life in >San Francisco or Oakland in the 1860s-1890s. > >I'm currently stumped. :) > >Lorinda Sitting on the Dock of the Bay Rimming the Pacific er, no. What's a Fault Among Friends? Defining Edgy Life at the Borders of Imagination and for FireSign Theatre fans - Civilization, Hoooo! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 17:18:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46MInWm005075 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:18:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 17:18:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00623B0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:18:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 730642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:18:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j46M8ldM028676 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:08:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 51521 invoked by uid 1003); 6 May 2005 22:08:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:08:46 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Message-ID: <20050506220846.GA48190@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70505050708da71771@mail.gmail.com> <1163534292.20050505142429@gailndan.com> <20050505210708.GA19272@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705050514206d4711f1@mail.gmail.com> <99160415.20050506090221@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <99160415.20050506090221@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 09:02:21AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/5/2005, 3:20 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> And after the Pope died, flags were at half mast for a week! > >> At least that's what it looked like. What a pathetic low point > >> for the city ... > >> > > AFoA> I suspect The Polish Factor was a huge influence on that one. > > Nope. The President Factor. His hand does go up and down the mast a bit too frequently, doesn't it. As a mark of respect, of course. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 17:22:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46MMOWm005420 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:22:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 17:22:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623BF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:22:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 730729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:22:24 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j46MCNLF028912 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:12:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 57208 invoked by uid 1003); 6 May 2005 22:12:23 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:12:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I guess Google isn't celebration this one... Message-ID: <20050506221222.GB48190@words-l.org> References: <20050506162645.62013.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050506095231.02df56a8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050506095231.02df56a8@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 09:52:48AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 09:26 AM 5/6/2005 -0700, you wrote: > >--- Dan Lester wrote: > >> 5/5/2005, 3:07 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> DMH> And after the Pope died, flags were at half mast for a week! > >> DMH> At least that's what it looked like. What a pathetic low point > >> DMH> for the city ... > >> > >> That wasn't just in Chicago. It was everywhere. > > > >We received a White House memo requesting flags be > >flown at half staff for 9 days. > > I wonder if he is going to address no pants day? It has been decreed that the absent pants be fulsomely praised. As a mark of respect. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 17:24:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46MNvWm005576 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:23:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 17:24:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00623B44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:23:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 731479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:23:56 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46MNuTV029837 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:23:56 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 57635595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:23:55 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050506152218.02e0c090@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:23:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A challenge. In-Reply-To: <200505062206.j46M6lEU028347@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU *I* liked those! Thanks. Betty >Sitting on the Dock of the Bay > >Rimming the Pacific >er, no. > >What's a Fault Among Friends? > >Defining Edgy > >Life at the Borders of Imagination > >and for FireSign Theatre fans - >Civilization, Hoooo! > >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 17:34:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46MYSWm006577 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:34:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 17:34:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623C09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:34:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 731788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:34:28 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46MYSr3030545 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:34:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.66.189]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050506223428.YJFI2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:34:28 -0400 Message-ID: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:34:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Quiz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Some of the info given is questionable, but this is nevertheless kind of fun: http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/yankee_dixie_quiz.html And it must have a grain of truth since my score said this: > 91% (Dixie). Is General Lee your father? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 17:51:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46MpPWm009159 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:51:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 17:51:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623C20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:41:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 732176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:41:24 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46MfO9x031182 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:41:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.66.189]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050506224124.YMKX2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:41:24 -0400 Message-ID: <427BF292.9070907@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:41:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Survey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Now this is an interesting question: > If you found a finger in your custard, would you return it so that it > could be reattached to the person who lost it? from: http://www.thejacksonchannel.com/irresistible/4457966/detail.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 17:51:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46MpPWm009158 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:51:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 17:51:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00623B8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:45:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 732564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:45:16 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46MjGDO031661 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:45:16 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j46MjF7O017969 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:45:16 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j46MiYLT030221 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:44:35 -0400 Message-ID: <007701c5528d$2e0c6dc0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Quiz Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:44:34 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU oh $#!+ "37% (Yankee). A definitive Yankee." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Some of the info given is questionable, but this is nevertheless kind of > fun: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/yankee_dixie_quiz.html > > And it must have a grain of truth since my score said this: > >> 91% (Dixie). Is General Lee your father? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 18:21:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j46NLMWm012242 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 18:21:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 18:21:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00623AF2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:21:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:21:21 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j46NLLf9002499 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:21:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.66.189]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050506232121.IMX23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:21:21 -0400 Message-ID: <427BFBEF.70606@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:21:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> <007701c5528d$2e0c6dc0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> In-Reply-To: <007701c5528d$2e0c6dc0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > oh $#!+ > > "37% (Yankee). A definitive Yankee." 37% is definitive?? One of several things I found odd in the info given after an answer, btw, was its association of "frontage road" with the western Great Lakes or some such place. I've never heard a frontage road called anything but a frontage road. And I hear/use the term quite often these days since many things in my life are related to the east and west frontage roads of I-55, including directions to my house from some places. (I've replaced the original route I gave to people from Starkville with a better route that involves the west frontage road. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 19:49:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j470npWm023074 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:49:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 19:49:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623DAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:49:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 737257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:49:50 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j470noBj008465 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:49:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.66.189]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507004948.DGEQ2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:49:48 -0400 Message-ID: <427C10AC.6030100@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:49:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Nancy Grace Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I turned on the electric teevee a little while ago and turned it to Headline News, where the name of the segment was "Nancy Grace." I remember having seen this person on some kind of panel on tv sometime in the past. I thought then and thought again tonight that I find her impossible to watch or listen to for more than a couple of minutes. Something about her is horribly grating to me. Do y'all know her? If so, do you find her grating, or is my reaction mutant? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 19:57:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j470vJWm023798 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:57:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 19:57:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00623C16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:57:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 737175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:57:19 -0400 Received: from aspirin.dii.utk.edu (aspirin.dii.utk.edu [160.36.0.81]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j470lIsl008287 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:47:18 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by aspirin.dii.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j470lFVV010004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:47:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:46:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: We just got notice that our credit card is going to charge an addition 3-4% (I forgot which) for using it in Europe. Hmmm. Do you mean they will charge that before any interest is due? I think I had better compare rates on my credit cards. I prefer to use the one that gets me World Points, but maybe I had better check out any European charge before I decide to use it instead of one of the other ones. I normally do no pay any interest. Or maybe I had better decide to use all these Euros and Euro TCs instead of credit cards. Or - wait - my credit union ATM charge will be only $1.50 - that might be best. There's always more to learn, even for us who have , eh, Natalie? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 20:07:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4717EWm025117 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:07:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:07:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623DEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:07:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 737971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:07:13 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4717Dok009585 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:07:13 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4717D7K019844 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:07:13 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4716mLT020632 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:06:49 -0400 Message-ID: <00c401c552a1$0ca35450$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> <007701c5528d$2e0c6dc0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <427BFBEF.70606@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Quiz Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:06:48 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Alan Wild wrote: > >> oh $#!+ >> >> "37% (Yankee). A definitive Yankee." > > 37% is definitive?? One of several things I found odd in the info given > after an answer, btw, was its association of "frontage road" with the > western Great Lakes or some such place. I've never heard a frontage > road called anything but a frontage road. And I hear/use the term quite > often these days since many things in my life are related to the east > and west frontage roads of I-55, including directions to my house from > some places. (I've replaced the original route I gave to people from > Starkville with a better route that involves the west frontage road. I imagine that the scale is slightly bias. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 20:08:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4718XWm025329 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:08:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:08:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623DEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:08:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 737989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:08:32 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4718W58009631 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:08:32 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101378771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 18:08:29 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050506180803.02792a50@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:09:05 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Fees in Europe In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:46 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: >Betty: We just got notice that our credit card is going to charge an >addition 3-4% (I forgot which) for using it in Europe. > >Hmmm. Do you mean they will charge that before any interest is due? Yes. Like a 3% use fee. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 20:21:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j471LFWm026357 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:21:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:21:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623DFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:21:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 738194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:21:15 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j471LERl010189 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:21:14 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j471LE7M019955 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:21:14 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j471JLLT022643 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:19:23 -0400 Message-ID: <00d001c552a2$cda5c560$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050506180803.02792a50@calmail.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Fees in Europe Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:19:21 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty F Clark" > At 05:46 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: >>Betty: We just got notice that our credit card is going to charge an >>addition 3-4% (I forgot which) for using it in Europe. >> >>Hmmm. Do you mean they will charge that before any interest is due? > > Yes. Like a 3% use fee. > > Betty The 'flockers are capitalizing on its security. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 20:25:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j471PRWm026739 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:25:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:25:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F4DD26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:25:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 738752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:25:18 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j471PHBW010721 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:25:18 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101382829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 18:25:16 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050506182441.027d4e60@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:25:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Fees in Europe In-Reply-To: <00d001c552a2$cda5c560$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050506180803.02792a50@calmail.berkeley.edu> <00d001c552a2$cda5c560$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:19 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty F Clark" >>At 05:46 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: >>>Betty: We just got notice that our credit card is going to charge an >>>addition 3-4% (I forgot which) for using it in Europe. >>> >>>Hmmm. Do you mean they will charge that before any interest is due? >> >>Yes. Like a 3% use fee. >> >>Betty > >The 'flockers are capitalizing on its security. This was our Visa card. I don't know if it is all cards. Haven't gotten notice on our American Express card but I suppose others will follow? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 20:26:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j471QVWm026809 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:26:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:26:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623E2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:26:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 738114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:26:30 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j471GUZ2009955 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:16:30 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j471GS8U022231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:16:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:16:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: credit cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Hmmm. Do you mean they will charge that before any interest is due? Yes. Like a 3% use fee. Betty Hmmmmmmmm. I have some research to do. I do not recall ever being charged a use fee. I think perhaps my credit union is the company to start the research with. Then I will call MBNA, etc. Thanks! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 20:37:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j471bJWm027870 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:37:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:37:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00623CB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:37:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 739599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:37:19 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j471bHtq011761 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:37:18 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101386598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 18:37:17 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050506183728.027ff050@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:37:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: credit cards In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:16 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: > >Hmmm. Do you mean they will charge that before any interest is due? >Yes. Like a 3% use fee. >Betty > >Hmmmmmmmm. I have some research to do. I do not recall ever being charged >a use fee. I think perhaps my credit union is the company to start the >research with. Then I will call MBNA, etc. > >Thanks! > >Bethany This is brand new. We just got our notification this week. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 20:41:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j471fFWm028201 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:41:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:41:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00623CBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:41:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 739697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:41:14 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j471fD3w012106 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:41:13 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j471fD7O020157 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:41:13 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j471eBLT025866 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:40:12 -0400 Message-ID: <00e001c552a5$b633d9a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050506180803.02792a50@calmail.berkeley.edu> <00d001c552a2$cda5c560$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.0.1.1.2.20050506182441.027d4e60@calmail.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Fees in Europe Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:40:11 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty F Clark" >>Alan: The 'flockers are capitalizing on its security. > > This was our Visa card. I don't know if it is all cards. Haven't gotten > notice on our American Express card but I suppose others will follow? > > Betty AmEx may be last... I use a card that's either in synch with Visa, or my damned bank is behind the times. (Damn the bank anyway... just for fun : ) I've been trying to cook up a trip to Patagonia to ride the snows under the Southern Cross this August, but it's only in the planning stage now; I've got to get on it... The dollar is much better in Chapelco than in Cortina, and the season sucks in Cortina right now anyway ;-P 'Alano de downdare From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 20:42:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j471goWm028394 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:42:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:42:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00623DCA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:42:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 739738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:42:34 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j471gXVG012188 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:42:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.66.189]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507014233.CJBH23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:42:33 -0400 Message-ID: <427C1D07.1070603@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 20:42:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >There's always more to learn, even for us who have , eh, >Natalie? > > I frankly don't pay much attention to the various fees in money changing -- TCs vs ATMs vs cash vs credit cards vs whatever. I don't travel enough for it to matter very much. I do whatever is convenient. On my most recent trip out of the country I used just cash -- took a wad of cash (in a money belt while I was still in the USA -- out of the money belt once I landed in Japan) and changed it to yen at a bank. Didn't pay attention to what the fee was for the transaction. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 20:49:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j471n0Wm028999 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:49:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:49:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00623DEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:48:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 740085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:48:59 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j471mtBc012639 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:48:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F4DE33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:48:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200505070148.j471mtBc012639@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:48:55 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Quiz To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:34:26 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Some of the info given is questionable, but this is nevertheless kind of >fun: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/yankee_dixie_quiz.html > >And it must have a grain of truth since my score said this: > >> 91% (Dixie). Is General Lee your father? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) 46%, barely a Yankee. Which seems abt right, given my tarheel mother, whose grandaddy knew Gen'l Lee. Most interesting - if you leave all answers blank, you hit 100% Southern, is General Lee you father? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 21:07:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4727SWm031238 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:07:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 21:07:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00623E1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:07:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 740876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:07:28 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4727RSV014077 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:07:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.66.189]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507020727.FITL2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:07:27 -0400 Message-ID: <427C22DA.3020009@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 21:07:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz References: <200505070148.j471mtBc012639@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505070148.j471mtBc012639@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Most interesting - if you leave all answers blank, you hit 100% Southern, >is General Lee you father? > > That is indeed interesting. Unrelated to that, I should mention that I schmoozed with the mayor this morning and am really sorry he's a lame duck. He's a nice man. (We schmoozed in front of my elementary school, where I went to hear an announcement about its future.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 21:21:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j472L5Wm000222 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:21:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 21:21:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00623E3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:21:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 741289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:21:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j472L4os014746 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:21:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3446688nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 19:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.16 with SMTP id h16mr768881nzc; Fri, 06 May 2005 19:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:21:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ttjJTvrpb6pdveTyJL6DFe4gA/Up1hHz0sepqC3YZbOYFUCiMCnt31o3En0YEmwFBINVp22vhun6xPmFjD/RBm6FvOqG1C9pZJoiZtifgn+JAs6T7z0rgeLBDo/yKLc4w/X5YIpqhY6S3wD78Vz5TSVXhpCTPFue8tIk1oktigM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505061921525cfe59@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:21:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Who knew? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j472L5Wm000222 That one kitten could have so much energy? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 21:26:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j472QcWm000556 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 21:26:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 21:26:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00623EF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:26:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 741417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:26:38 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j472Qbc6015014 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:26:37 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101400475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 06 May 2005 19:26:36 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050506192703.027caa80@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:27:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505061921525cfe59@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70505061921525cfe59@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:21 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: >That one kitten could have so much energy? > >Karen mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 22:34:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j473YOWm007718 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:34:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 22:34:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062403B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:34:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 747570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:34:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j473YNwd020533 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:34:23 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3459150nzp for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.42.19 with SMTP id p19mr786967nzp; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2005 20:34:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JnPkkV++a94CNLOlneMxoPC1Q80bk/KovpzE8iUA4E/sEjdrCsXUWaeyaXq9XW/5KJsojOR+clsY5Dwql4OqvzBlArjd1N9VN7IldIbgBpkbW1gXywC3QbfEWDm963XGaouaWGi8fJ11ZpBRAOAbjlj+7lTYM1hAtccldKkY1WA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050506203479fb16a7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 22:34:22 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050506192703.027caa80@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70505061921525cfe59@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050506192703.027caa80@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j473YOWm007718 On 5/6/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > At 07:21 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: > >That one kitten could have so much energy? > > > >Karen > > mem Ah. This kitten is nearly a year old, so I thought it would be more mellow--and maybe it will be when he gets used to his surroundings. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 6 23:53:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j474rhWm018248 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:53:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 23:53:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F4E461@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 0:43:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 753019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:43:42 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j474hg7e026381 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:43:42 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B118112F18F1 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 23:43:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c552bf$5a4d1740$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: International comment Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 23:43:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j474rhWm018248 We were out socially this evening, which we don't do much of, and ran into an old acquaintance . . . a very sharp girl from Ireland who met and married a boy from this area . . and they lived here for a few years . . and she worked in the bank we are associated with. Then they moved back to Ireland. Now they are back here. I asked her why. She said: In Ireland we have become so overun with Chinese and Africans that it has changed our way of life.and our quality of life. She described also traffic problems which made it almost impossible to get her kids to school, etc. etc. She said, in fact, that life was much simpler in the US. I found that a bit interesting. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 02:31:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j477UjWm004948 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 02:30:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 02:30:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006246C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 3:30:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 763489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:30:45 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j477UiJl004792 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:30:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1472373wra for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 00:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.154.14 with SMTP id b14mr1266725wre; Sat, 07 May 2005 00:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 00:30:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BS04nvVVr2HqgCDTPigbjUdI35LLOJJ/GJtA1b7vdJFpziLfi4B5UxH7heWLyNJjPkBbvyohx1cnApF2o4oEs1nSMO+vOb2DnyPk4kxZjoWqHCtAieW+z0T4LRA0oui3wVOXEL+UGL/HUtVoyMrEPsCj/tT9ubFBlh0KUR588b0= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 09:30:44 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050506203479fb16a7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70505061921525cfe59@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050506192703.027caa80@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050506203479fb16a7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j477UjWm004948 > This kitten is nearly a year old, so I thought it would be more > mellow--and > maybe it will be when he gets used to his surroundings. > Karen Our little Maine Coon kitten stayed a kitten until she was about four years old. But that breed is known to mature late. Have fun, Karen! -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 03:34:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j478XuWm012852 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:33:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:34:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00624845@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 4:33:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 764838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:33:56 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j478XsXR008566 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:33:55 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j478XrOc007400 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:33:53 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j478XqLl007398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:33:52 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:33:52 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? Message-ID: <20050507083352.GA7300@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a70505061921525cfe59@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505061921525cfe59@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = That one kitten could have so much energy? = = Karen Well, if you'd asked first. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 03:56:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j478tuWm015489 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:55:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:56:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006248FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 4:48:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 764970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:48:02 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j478m1t4009076 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:48:01 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j478m0L2007495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:48:00 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j478m04h007493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:48:00 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:48:00 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? Message-ID: <20050507084800.GB7300@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a70505061921525cfe59@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050506192703.027caa80@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050506203479fb16a7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050506203479fb16a7@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = This kitten is nearly a year old, so I thought it would be more mellow--and = maybe it will be when he gets used to his surroundings. = = Karen Eh, not particularly. Mine are almost a year old, and they're fairly kitten crazy still. Cheetah the cat next door is now almost two, and she's still fairly bouncy. My friend Vicki says boy cats get lethargic and sleepy and girl cats keep doing kitten things for years and years. Did you restrict her at all, or did you just give her run of the house? Since we don't usually let ours into the bedroom, they still get frisky everytime they're in there. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 03:56:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j478tuWm015488 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:55:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:56:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006248F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 4:36:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 764864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:36:29 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j478aSTp008669 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:36:28 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so709850wra for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 01:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.46 with SMTP id n46mr1337450wrn; Sat, 07 May 2005 01:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 01:36:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BHQLcFUmoEjVST5MTG7mDiDC2lyDkQUB5wjGRQQCPz0Rsey08Ua1cxd1+3iLHEPgQCEju0dEYzv7VS9z8VuBcwNB6aHAcADZW0ehf7JOHrsFKruKvN0KrPNIoHvGZZqJMvTrnCr4bs8aIXSmjWgOExcbzXPA/uXWSqHZTNEfN5M= Message-ID: <83db447a050507013684364c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:36:28 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: wissinte@muohio.edu, wissinhd@muohio.edu, lrbrown4@bellsouth.net, tcombs@acadia.net, april@barharbormaine.org, roseannofga@yahoo.com, tessnalencz@yahoo.com, marialicew@att.net, amack@clis.com, kring@sover.net, danandlisa@earthlink.net Subject: South of the Arctic Circle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j478tuWm015488 We crossed the Circle about 30 miniutes ago (it's now 1030). Yesterday started cloudy but cleared as we approached Sortland. The Lofotens may get the press, but for a real sweep of alpine mountain scenery, it's hard to beat the stretch from Sortland to Stokmarknes. We traversed the Raftsundet under clear skies and again stopped at Trollfjord. This time, it was hard to photograph because of the mob scene---everyone on board trying to get the came picture. It gave me some notion of what voyages in the busy summer season must be like. The brass band that Bonnie mentioned was great---eight or ten young people, serenading us throughout the short (15 minutes, maybe) stop. As we began to ease away from the dock (sideways, as usual), the band broke into their last marching tune. Those of us at the rail began clapping to the rhythm. The whale, or as the menu had it, the "vestfjord ham" was cured whale meat, sliced thin like prosciutto and wrapped around a spear of white asparagus. It tasted pretty much like other cured meats, perhaps a little stronger tasting than prosciutto. Tonight, lamb. Off to deck 9. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 03:56:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j478tuWm015487 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 03:55:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 03:56:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062473C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 4:35:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 764856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:35:55 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j478Zt0Z008646 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:35:55 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j478ZqxK004645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 04:35:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 04:35:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz In-Reply-To: <427BFBEF.70606@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> <007701c5528d$2e0c6dc0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <427BFBEF.70606@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 6 May 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > One of several things I found odd in the info given after an answer, > btw, was its association of "frontage road" with the western Great Lakes > or some such place. I've never heard a frontage road called anything > but a frontage road. Here in Michigan a road paralleling the freeway on either side is a "service road", or perhaps in an urban area, "service drive". Back in the 1950s or 1960s in Ann Arbor apparently there was a big effort to put parallel drives along some major streets (suburban style thoroughfares, not limited access expressways) so that driveways didn't go directly into traffic. Some of these survive, and I have heard them called frontage roads. Words for these kinds of street-level configuration concepts tend to be very local or regional, I think. After all, there may be a need to have a word for something which is ubiquitous in a particular city, but hardly any need for a national discussion of it. My favorite example is the term for the space or strip between the street curb and the paralleling sidewalk. Here in Ann Arbor, everyone knows this is their "lawn extension" or "extension", as in "put your garbage cans on your extension". Just sixty miles away in East Lansing, the word "parkway" is equally well entrenched for the same concept. I have heard that other places use the word "treelawn" or "greenway" or such. There's also the "Michigan left turn", or "Michigan left," which refers to an intersection set up in such a way that the only legal way to turn left is to turn right and take a U-turn through a designated place in the median, passing through the intersection a second time. Obviously this requires that one of the streets have a median, like many of the main roads in the Detroit suburbs. And then there's the terminology for a multistory building full of parking places for cars. I grew up in the Lansing area where "parking ramp" was pretty much the only term for such a building, but that baffles people outside Michigan. Ann Arbor understands "ramp", but most uses seem to be "parking structure". Apparently other places call it a parking garage or parking deck. The Canadian word for it is "parkade". Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 06:59:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47BxdWm009380 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 06:59:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 06:59:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00625711@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 7:49:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 790837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:49:38 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47BdcuO013337 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:39:38 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j47BdaqA010669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:39:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 07:39:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: convenience Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: I will find it very inconvenient to ante up 3% of a purchase as opposed to 0% or perhaps 1%. 3% is a total ripoff - dollars in the pockets of youknowwho. That reminds me - when I called AAA to arrange to get Euros and Euro TCs, I was told that if I paid with a credit card, it would be charged as a cash advance. I did not check that out with a credit card company - just took cash instead. For this coming trip, I am to be reimbursed for all travel expenses - I wonder if that includes 3% ripoff charges? (But why should Spain pay for such ripoffs?) I will ask about whether I am to be reimbursed transaction fees. I may go get some more cash. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 07:30:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47CUVWm014306 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:30:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 07:30:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00625772@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:30:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:30:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47CUVRw017270 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:30:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3530123nzp for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 05:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.3 with SMTP id a3mr812456nzc; Sat, 07 May 2005 05:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 05:30:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oYNHKRHPp4T9Xyp8eDLRNsG45jXkTq7DfpC4i+MJqQkRF2bW4Y/5rSHXKAmEQJhkt1dnekzMnsX77EbKhqJOVa7HTdAOsWwbhxYZ+RLuT4KikoaBpIhIbFetcX9kYqzTFIWApNM7TgQhgl3pZUoYkcwI9XmHIDjOcCslCihidk4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505070530222f6f98@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 07:30:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <20050507084800.GB7300@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70505061921525cfe59@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050506192703.027caa80@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050506203479fb16a7@mail.gmail.com> <20050507084800.GB7300@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j47CUVWm014306 On 5/7/05, steph wrote: > > Eh, not particularly. Mine are almost a year old, and they're fairly > kitten crazy still. Cheetah the cat next door is now almost two, and > she's still fairly bouncy. My friend Vicki says boy cats get lethargic > and sleepy and girl cats keep doing kitten things for years and years. This is a boy. Did you restrict her at all, or did you just give her run of the house? > Since we don't usually let ours into the bedroom, they still get frisky > everytime they're in there. > He went from being confined to a bathroom for about a month to free run of my house. I closed off the guest room this morning, and in a few minutes, I'm going to go in my bedroom and shut the door. I'm a bit worried that he hasn't used the litterbox, even though I've showed it to him. Several times. I hope I don't find any presents. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 07:30:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47CUbWm014318 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:30:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 07:30:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F4FA90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:02:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 793498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:02:51 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47C2peF015453 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:02:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F4FADE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:02:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200505071202.j47C2peF015453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 08:02:51 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Off to the woods to hide out from work and write my paper. Wish me luck! http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/Leetonia/Leetonia.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 07:30:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47CUbWm014319 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:30:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 07:30:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F4FB11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:27:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:28:00 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47CRwuD017041 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:27:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.153.76]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507122758.ETAL1983.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:27:58 -0400 Message-ID: <427CB44C.8050700@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 07:27:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> <007701c5528d$2e0c6dc0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <427BFBEF.70606@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > Words for these kinds of street-level configuration concepts tend to be > very local or regional, I think. After all, there may be a need to > have a > word for something which is ubiquitous in a particular city, but hardly > any need for a national discussion of it. Ah, but if I were giving one of you directions for getting to my house, those directions might well include reference to a frontage road -- like "take the southbound frontage road." (But the street signs would make the frontage road clear.) > My favorite example is the term for the space or strip between the street > curb and the paralleling sidewalk. Here in Ann Arbor, everyone knows > this > is their "lawn extension" or "extension", as in "put your garbage cans on > your extension". Just sixty miles away in East Lansing, the word > "parkway" is equally well entrenched for the same concept. I have heard > that other places use the word "treelawn" or "greenway" or such. I think we've talked about that here, haven't we? I have no word for that strip. If I had to mention it, I guess I'd say something like "the grassy street between the curb and the sidewalk." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 07:30:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47CUbWm014316 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:30:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 07:30:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F4FB2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:24:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:24:36 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47COaum016761 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:24:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.153.76]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507122436.ERTW1983.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:24:36 -0400 Message-ID: <427CB381.5020700@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 07:24:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: International comment References: <000801c552bf$5a4d1740$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000801c552bf$5a4d1740$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >She said: In Ireland we have become so overun with Chinese >and Africans that it has changed our way of life.and our quality >of life. > Did she explain -- as in exactly how their way of life and quality of life have been changed? I gather since she moved that she must have meant changed for the worse. It would be interesting to have details. > She described also traffic problems which made it >almost impossible to get her kids to school, etc. etc. > > Was this related to the Chinese and Africans, or was it a separate thing? >She said, in fact, that life was much simpler in the US. > >I found that a bit interesting. > > Me too. I'd like to hear more. Re simplicity of life as far as traffic and getting kids to school, I would guess that to be more related to exactly where one lives in a particular country. I would hate to have to drive children to school across downtown Atlanta, e.g., but would probably find it quite simple in Sturgis, MS. Ditto London vs Bampton. Etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 07:30:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47CUbWm014320 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:30:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 07:30:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F4FAC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:00:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 793404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:00:36 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47C0aBH015160 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:00:36 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F4FA86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:00:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200505071200.j47C0aBH015160@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 08:00:36 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 6 May 2005 22:34:22 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/6/05, Betty F Clark wrote: >> >> At 07:21 PM 5/6/2005, you wrote: >> >That one kitten could have so much energy? >> > >> >Karen >> >> mem > > >Ah. > >This kitten is nearly a year old, so I thought it would be more mellow-- and >maybe it will be when he gets used to his surroundings. > >Karen I think even a 2 yr old is more bouncy than Burl was. They do get more mellow. Toys help - knit a mouse on a long tail string! (no catnip though). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 07:41:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47Cf8Wm015711 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:41:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 07:41:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062567C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:31:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:31:39 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47CVdSD017399 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:31:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.153.76]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507123139.EUOF1983.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:31:39 -0400 Message-ID: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 07:31:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Natalie: changing -- TCs vs ATMs vs cash vs credit cards vs whatever. I don't >travel enough for it to matter very much. I do whatever is convenient.> > >I will find it very inconvenient to ante up 3% of a purchase as opposed to >0% or perhaps 1%. 3% is a total ripoff - dollars in the pockets of >youknowwho. > > As I said, I don't travel enough for that to be important to me. >That reminds me - when I called AAA to arrange to get Euros and Euro TCs, >I was told that if I paid with a credit card, it would be charged as a >cash advance. I did not check that out with a credit card company - just >took cash instead. > > Since TCs are said to be like cash, I can see how getting them would be like getting cash with a credit card. And obviously getting Euros would be since -- well -- since that IS getting a cash advance. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 07:41:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47Cf8Wm015707 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:41:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 07:41:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062585F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:34:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 795242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:34:23 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47CYEsv017648 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:34:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.153.76]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507123414.EVQE1983.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:34:14 -0400 Message-ID: <427CB5C4.3050307@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 07:34:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? References: <200505071202.j47C2peF015453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505071202.j47C2peF015453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Off to the woods to hide out from work and write my paper. >Wish me luck! > >http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/Leetonia/Leetonia.htm > > Good luck! I just read the description and must say that I found the place pretty dreadful sounding. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 07:41:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47Cf8Wn015710 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:41:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 07:41:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006257B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:36:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 795344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:36:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47Ca6Pk017775 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:36:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3530880nzp for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 05:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr809410nzb; Sat, 07 May 2005 05:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 05:36:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Zthjk4D37UsIPV+UqoirnLLC8u/2AJXVmsqu4ElwtV/PF0TpxWXvbzNZadAf4HTvzuVP/wYJiQRkPPvSTO8mOKyFGj0s1iRTNibaEbSN7r0Fqcl+A9U0Lp3yAa2LhbrqNnyzbKgjsDPgpkG4zybemHYNkAmBS+V9rwJf3MXelhI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 07:36:06 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Cat toys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j47Cf8Wn015710 Burl never needed a cat toy. This cat needs SOMETHING, and judging by the way he goes after my yarn and every bug in my house, I'm thinking a toy is the way to go. Suggestions? I have to make a Petsmart run this afternoon, to get a scratching post. (I've been told they have cardboard door-hanging ones for about $6.) (One bit of training I managed to accomplish was to get the cat to sit ON the computer instead of on my chest when I'm using the computer.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 07:41:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47Cf8Wm015710 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:41:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 07:41:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062582D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:31:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:31:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47CV7nB017331 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:31:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3530196nzp for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 05:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr804563nzu; Sat, 07 May 2005 05:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 05:31:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OHM+jcfhGTTimSMgJA4tVWqN1QUJGgpAPJetg+EM67lsQxAbxsV3PWRDVrKqsA7DvGnCaf7OMinrWnY4cXFuKWT5i7OBoTUFVtqjvmTAxoS6Pb7JiYPq0Jk3kKbwnxwh7d37J605h726IaGpMK6aL7V6ReV3wJ8QLZP/CNsNJT8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050705313dbb17e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 07:31:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <200505071202.j47C2peF015453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505071202.j47C2peF015453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j47Cf8Wm015710 On 5/7/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Off to the woods to hide out from work and write my paper. > Wish me luck! > > http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/Leetonia/Leetonia.htm > Luck! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 07:56:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47CurWm017616 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 07:56:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 07:56:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F4FC1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 8:56:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 796585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:56:53 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47CuqtE019355 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:56:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.153.76]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507125653.KLWD2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:56:53 -0400 Message-ID: <427CBB12.1000307@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 07:56:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Stoning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I believe there was a brief thread a day or so ago about stoning people in the White House for their sins. This letter in today's Clarion-Ledger reminded me of it: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050507/OPINION/505070303/1009 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 08:40:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47DeIWm026899 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:40:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:40:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006258AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 9:20:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 797844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:20:17 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47DKHZQ022167 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:20:17 -0400 Received: from [136.167.17.94] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.17.94] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 90456777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:19:48 -0400 Message-ID: <427CC102.2080205@bc.edu> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 09:22:10 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? References: <8ddfc8a70505061921525cfe59@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050506192703.027caa80@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050506203479fb16a7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > Our little Maine Coon kitten stayed a kitten until she was about four years > old. But that breed is known to mature late. Have fun, Karen! > > Yep! Our little "wild things" are almost four years old and still very, very kittenish. Meg aka Flopsy aka Mini-Miss just helped me pay our bills by hopping up on the table, scattering all of the bills to the four winds and then walking on the keyboard causing some very odd numbers to appear in one of our credit card payments. I DID NOT confirm that one. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 08:56:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47DuYWm029543 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:56:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:56:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00625921@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 9:46:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 799061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:46:33 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47DkXvQ024344 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:46:33 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C2968E85896D1 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:46:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001901c5530b$2f3204c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000801c552bf$5a4d1740$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <427CB381.5020700@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: International comment Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 08:46:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't know any more than that. Wished I could have talked to her longer. Sounded like she meant they were having problems integrating huge numbers of immigrants. - D. M. > Doris Markland wrote: > >>She said: In Ireland we have become so overun with Chinese >>and Africans that it has changed our way of life.and our quality >>of life. >> > Did she explain -- as in exactly how their way of life and quality of > life have been changed? I gather since she moved that she must have > meant changed for the worse. It would be interesting to have details. > >> She described also traffic problems which made it >>almost impossible to get her kids to school, etc. etc. >> >> > Was this related to the Chinese and Africans, or was it a separate thing? > >>She said, in fact, that life was much simpler in the US. >> >>I found that a bit interesting. >> >> > Me too. I'd like to hear more. Re simplicity of life as far as traffic > and getting kids to school, I would guess that to be more related to > exactly where one lives in a particular country. I would hate to have > to drive children to school across downtown Atlanta, e.g., but would > probably find it quite simple in Sturgis, MS. Ditto London vs Bampton. > Etc. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 09:12:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47EBpWm031807 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:11:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:12:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F4FDCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:01:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 799536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:01:50 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47E1nYT025580 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:01:50 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j47E1n0H009038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:01:49 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j47E1mPZ009036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:01:48 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 16:01:48 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience Message-ID: <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = >I will find it very inconvenient to ante up 3% of a purchase as opposed to = >0% or perhaps 1%. 3% is a total ripoff - dollars in the pockets of = >youknowwho. = > = > = As I said, I don't travel enough for that to be important to me. = Natalie, every fucking cent is important. Don't forget it. On EUR 2000 that's EUR 60. You could take me out to a nice dinner for that! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 09:18:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47EILWm032602 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:18:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:18:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00625A26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:08:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 799666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:08:21 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47E8LcS025916 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:08:21 -0400 Received: from [136.167.17.94] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.17.94]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 96620251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 07 May 2005 10:08:31 -0400 Message-ID: <427CCC49.7020404@bc.edu> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 10:10:17 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > And it must have a grain of truth since my score said this: > >> 91% (Dixie). Is General Lee your father? > Not in my estimation. Born and raised and still living in Massachusetts, I get this: > 45% (Yankee). Barely into the Yankee category. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 09:18:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47EILWm032603 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:18:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:18:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062586F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:12:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 799737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:12:08 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47EC8DQ026236 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:12:08 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j47EC7wb009099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:12:07 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j47EC77m009097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:12:07 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 16:12:06 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys Message-ID: <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 07:36:06AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = Burl never needed a cat toy. This cat needs SOMETHING, and judging by the = way he goes after my yarn and every bug in my house, I'm thinking a toy is Ping pong balls. Real ones crush too quickly, but kitty ones are a bit sturdier. Fake mice. We have some see-through slotted plastic balls with stuff that rolls around in them with some kind of a feather tail, that was pretty good for a while. They like socks, preferably with some wool in them, though even the cotton ones will do (both clean and dirty). Natasha likes clothing that has really stinky armpits. They like to tear apart cardboard. We get cheapo cola by the case, and they really like them. They're only a couple of inches high with a bottom. Be careful with anything stringy, as swallowing it isn't good. A bit of cord that you can swing around is good (I pulled the cord out of a pair of sweats where the cord was cotton and had shrunk). Hide it around a corner while you hold onto one end. As for the poo, is he getting enough water? I'd still give it a couple of days and keep an eye on his tummy. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 09:53:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47ErRWm005365 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:53:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:53:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006259F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:53:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 801399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:53:26 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47ErQ71029700 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:53:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507145324.JGJR2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:53:24 -0400 Message-ID: <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 09:53:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >Natalie, every fucking cent is important. Don't forget it. On EUR 2000 >that's EUR 60. You could take me out to a nice dinner for that! > > I readily toss pennies into the little penny dishes in convenience stores, so apparently we are not of like mind on the importance of a cent. I certainly would, however, notice these matters if I thought I was going to spend 2000 euros! I can't conceive of spending that much on a trip. I guess what I should have said instead of "I don't travel enough to worry about it" was "I don't travel high enough on the hog to worry about it." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 10:06:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47F6oWm007338 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:06:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 10:06:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00625B62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:06:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 804561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:06:49 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47F6nDe031579 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:06:49 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1538622wra for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.2.45 with SMTP id 45mr1432930wrb; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 08:06:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=R7fQgeH/PPz5IY2Gibjz31cKAyxS8qSnpqJWey4A+It+vVNS8GoIDu7ylRzi7GZTRWYbIP6zUavvqhvI5W2hWC5RdY9aJoZdGTwfJuY4sgDG+aKk5oWlChXEO013QFJj+AT+wXFLYuYEyIH4SAOwqEwbqO4K0WNrfGA7kPZC1s0= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 17:06:49 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience In-Reply-To: <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j47F6oWm007338 > > Natalie, every fucking cent is important. Don't forget it. On EUR 2000 > that's EUR 60. You could take me out to a nice dinner for that! -steph And yet you generously paid for our breakfast. For which I thank you again. It is my understanding that the best way to go during foreign travel is withdrawing the local currency from an ATM. That is what we have been doing. However, we also use our MBNA Visa card whenever necessary: hotel, dinner meal in Bergen, sweaters, etc. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 10:10:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47FAqWm007746 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:10:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 10:10:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5001B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:00:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 804285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:00:52 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47F0pvs031057 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:00:52 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CFF05A5A6B98 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:00:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000501c55315$90f01940$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: convenience Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:00:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > steph wrote: > >>Natalie, every fucking cent is important. Don't forget it. On EUR 2000 >>that's EUR 60. You could take me out to a nice dinner for that! >> >> > I readily toss pennies into the little penny dishes in convenience > stores, so apparently we are not of like mind on the importance of a > cent. I certainly would, however, notice these matters if I thought I > was going to spend 2000 euros! I can't conceive of spending that much > on a trip. I guess what I should have said instead of "I don't travel > enough to worry about it" was "I don't travel high enough on the hog to > worry about it." > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Speaking of small change, I have a box full of foreign coins left over from trips through the years. Think I'll put it out at my rummage sale. Don't know what else to do with it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 10:33:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47FXYWm010613 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:33:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 10:33:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00625C4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:33:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:33:34 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47FXYQB001019 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:33:34 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101548519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:33:33 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507083118.05903270@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:34:09 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: convenience In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >.Bethany laments: > >I will find it very inconvenient to ante up 3% of a purchase as opposed to >0% or perhaps 1%. 3% is a total ripoff - dollars in the pockets of >youknowwho. The foreign transaction fee may not be attached to your card yet. We just received notice, as I said. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 10:34:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47FYlWm010739 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:34:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 10:34:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00625A9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:34:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:34:46 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47FYkel001170; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:34:46 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101548684; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:34:45 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507083507.026adb80@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:35:21 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <200505071202.j47C2peF015453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505071202.j47C2peF015453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:02 AM 5/7/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Off to the woods to hide out from work and write my paper. >Wish me luck! > >http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/Leetonia/Leetonia.htm Good luck and don't wander off. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 10:47:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47FlHWm012353 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:47:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 10:47:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00625BAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:37:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:37:16 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47FbGe9001340; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:37:16 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101549056; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:37:15 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507083717.026a7b80@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:37:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050705313dbb17e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505071202.j47C2peF015453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705050705313dbb17e3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:31 AM 5/7/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/7/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > > Off to the woods to hide out from work and write my paper. > > Wish me luck! > > > > http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/Leetonia/Leetonia.htm > > > >Luck! And follow the rules: Don't plug in the clock, don't wash cast-iron frying pans in soapy water, and don't meditate naked in full view of road. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 10:47:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47FlHWm012355 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:47:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 10:47:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00625ABC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:42:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:42:32 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47FgWiX001772 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:42:32 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101549791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 07 May 2005 08:42:31 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507084226.026ab560@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:43:07 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: convenience In-Reply-To: References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:06 AM 5/7/2005, you wrote: > > > > Natalie, every fucking cent is important. Don't forget it. On EUR 2000 > > that's EUR 60. You could take me out to a nice dinner for that! -steph > > And yet you generously paid for our breakfast. For which I thank you >again. > It is my understanding that the best way to go during foreign travel is >withdrawing the local currency from an ATM. That is what we have been doing. >However, we also use our MBNA Visa card whenever necessary: hotel, dinner >meal in Bergen, sweaters, etc. > > >-- >--bonniev Enjoy. One doesn't get to Europe that often. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 10:59:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47FxqWm014124 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 10:59:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 10:59:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00625B06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:59:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 806777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:59:51 -0400 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47FxpL8003707 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:59:51 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.d4.2782683b (18403) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:59:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:59:48 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Nancy Grace To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's her biography from Court TV: http://www.courttv.com/anchors/nancy_grace.html Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 11:05:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47G5MWm015186 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:05:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:05:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F50119@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:55:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 806650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:55:22 -0400 Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47FtLSZ003230 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:55:21 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.103.60ff5094 (18403) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:55:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <103.60ff5094.2fae3ee4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:55:16 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Quiz To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 5/7/2005 3:36:01 AM Central Daylight Time, polygon@POTIFOS.COM writes: << My favorite example is the term for the space or strip between the street curb and the paralleling sidewalk. >> In Akron, it's a "devil strip"; in Cleveland, it's a "treelawn"; in Tulsa, it's "going to be part of the street when we widen it." Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 11:08:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47G8DWm015434 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:08:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:08:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00625C33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:08:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 807186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:08:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47G8DHx004452 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:08:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3567786nzp for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr835159nzb; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:08:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YmpUaTDAVu/Yc6FO4zboKzh58Vsiih+Hoqo9H+RtdZUsYMo2wZupTECVKhY30XkqLJl0rXOjrywqWOcK9MgaRCQEU/W+Np8bK7X2VGy/POjM/O5yfOm+ZFuiCGB8jv5NEtGb/9NzHBt3INdL6d4YzrYPKp0kRKfK5i6SgZXVcMQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505070908176410f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:08:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j47G8DWm015434 On 5/7/05, steph wrote: > > As for the poo, is he getting enough water? I'd still give it a couple > of days and keep an eye on his tummy. The water's there, and I know he's drinking it, because I've watched. He ate a lot last night. We're coming to a meeting of the minds. Training is taking place. (On both sides.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 11:09:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47G98Wm015548 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:09:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:09:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00625C38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:09:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 807237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:09:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47G98XZ004523 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:09:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3567970nzp for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.3 with SMTP id k3mr815906nzk; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:09:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sEFrOChXyDYxwIPH2S53NmevnxwnXlWN4i9tdN5LlXcauv8hjGNcECzPJzoNzTc/ThPrbEDHqn1Ok3ukt+4rP8luR9jrjUK+FaghI3EXIz8ztKAJ9qWw3TkcVWiDEAD+XBVm9Hb3azQd+OUFPiCkCjgfJXOUDv152q1wVrvM5wA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505070909557667bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:09:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j47G98Wm015548 I forgot to thank you for the suggestions! Thanks. On 5/7/05, steph wrote: > > On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 07:36:06AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = Burl never needed a cat toy. This cat needs SOMETHING, and judging by > the > = way he goes after my yarn and every bug in my house, I'm thinking a toy > is > > Ping pong balls. Real ones crush too quickly, but kitty ones are a bit > sturdier. Fake mice. We have some see-through slotted plastic balls > with stuff that rolls around in them with some kind of a feather tail, > that was pretty good for a while. They like socks, preferably with some > wool in them, though even the cotton ones will do (both clean and dirty). > Natasha likes clothing that has really stinky armpits. They like to > tear apart cardboard. We get cheapo cola by the case, and they really > like them. They're only a couple of inches high with a bottom. Be > careful with anything stringy, as swallowing it isn't good. A bit of > cord that you can swing around is good (I pulled the cord out of a pair > of sweats where the cord was cotton and had shrunk). Hide it around a > corner while you hold onto one end. > > As for the poo, is he getting enough water? I'd still give it a couple > of days and keep an eye on his tummy. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 11:38:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47GcZWm019551 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:38:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:38:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00625D8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:38:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 808512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:38:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j47GSX4I006696 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:28:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 91428 invoked by uid 1003); 7 May 2005 16:28:33 -0000 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:28:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? Message-ID: <20050507162833.GA78420@words-l.org> References: <200505071202.j47C2peF015453@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705050705313dbb17e3@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050507083717.026a7b80@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507083717.026a7b80@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 08:37:51AM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: > At 05:31 AM 5/7/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >On 5/7/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> > >> Off to the woods to hide out from work and write my paper. > >> Wish me luck! > >> > >> http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/Leetonia/Leetonia.htm > >> > > > >Luck! > > And follow the rules: > > Don't plug in the clock, > don't wash cast-iron frying pans in soapy water, and > don't meditate naked in full view of road. The place has rules? Fuck it From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 11:42:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47GgLWm019913 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:42:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:42:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00625CEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:42:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 808667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:42:21 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j47GWKxe007995 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:32:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 93129 invoked by uid 1003); 7 May 2005 16:32:20 -0000 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:32:20 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience Message-ID: <20050507163220.GB78420@words-l.org> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507083118.05903270@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507083118.05903270@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have heard of people who grumble abut the government taking a big bite out of their lottery winnings! They are stealing my money! Everyone taking what's MINE! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 11:47:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47GlNWm020440 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 11:47:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:47:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5025B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:47:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 808880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:47:22 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j47GbLCf009754 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:37:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 96506 invoked by uid 1003); 7 May 2005 16:37:21 -0000 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:37:21 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: International comment Message-ID: <20050507163721.GC78420@words-l.org> References: <000801c552bf$5a4d1740$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <427CB381.5020700@maynor.net> <001901c5530b$2f3204c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001901c5530b$2f3204c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 08:46:34AM -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > I don't know any more than that. Wished I could have talked > to her longer. Sounded like she meant they were having > problems integrating huge numbers of immigrants. Ah, that wasn't obvious at all. I hope she has learned by now that Nebraska is not the last remaining suburb for white flight that she thought ... Goats are being slaughtered on every streetcorner! Everyone's money will be stolen soon. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 12:03:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47H3VWm022590 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:03:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 12:03:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00625D3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:03:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:03:31 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47H3Vpw012719 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:03:31 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.16]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507170331.CUUB2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:03:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.16]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050507170330.NWRA1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:03:30 -0400 Message-ID: <427CF4DF.1060004@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:03:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> <000501c55315$90f01940$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000501c55315$90f01940$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Speaking of small change, I have a box > full of foreign coins left over from trips > through the years. Think I'll put it out at my > rummage sale. Don't know what else to do with it. I have a piggy bank full of such coins. I assume that it will be thrown away after I die. I've had it for years and used to take money out of it for a return trips to some of the countries, but I haven't bothered doing that in a long time. (I do take bills, but they don't live in the piggy bank. They live in a drawer.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 12:08:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47H88Wm023086 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:08:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 12:08:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F502D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:08:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:08:07 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47H87t7013080 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:08:07 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.16]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507170807.CVWU2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:08:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.16]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050507170806.NXUZ1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:08:06 -0400 Message-ID: <427CF5F4.8090505@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:08:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: International comment References: <000801c552bf$5a4d1740$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <427CB381.5020700@maynor.net> <001901c5530b$2f3204c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <20050507163721.GC78420@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050507163721.GC78420@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>I don't know any more than that. Wished I could have talked >>to her longer. Sounded like she meant they were having >>problems integrating huge numbers of immigrants. >> >> >Ah, that wasn't obvious at all. I hope she has learned by > > I think integrating huge numbers of immigrants is almost always difficult. Look at the problems the natives faced several hundred years ago when huge numbers of Europeans started pouring onto this continent. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 12:26:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47HQBWm025251 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:26:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 12:26:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00625D5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:13:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:13:06 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47HD6lv013518 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:13:06 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.16]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507171306.CWYQ2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:13:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.16]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050507171305.NYXC1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:13:05 -0400 Message-ID: <427CF71E.408@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:13:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: I Was There Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I didn't see me but will watch again since I was standing very near where some of the standing people are shown: http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=3312349&nav=1L7tZZGp You have to watch the video to see what I'm talking about. The story on the website is badly written and boring. The video is much better. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 12:26:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47HQBWm025249 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 12:26:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 12:26:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00625DF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:06:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:06:09 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47H69ll012986 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:06:09 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.16]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507170609.CVJN2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:06:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.16]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050507170608.NXIE1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:06:08 -0400 Message-ID: <427CF57E.8070004@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:06:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nancy Grace References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: >Here's her biography from Court TV: > >http://www.courttv.com/anchors/nancy_grace.html > > That's the person. I recognize her from the picture. But nothing in the bio explains why I find her grating to watch. It's something about her tone of voice -- she always sounds mad ("always" in the few minutes I've seen of her). And she puts her head in unpleasant positions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 13:15:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47IFRWm031920 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 13:15:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 13:15:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00625F91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:15:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:15:27 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47I5QQK019089 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:05:26 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j47I5O42029234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:05:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:05:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: now MBNA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonnie: I received my MBNA MC letter today - the new use fee will be 3% - starting on May 25. I will be able to use my card on this trip up until two days before I leave, so I will be able to pay for my hotel room (my biggest expense), without having 3% added, for I will pay it to the university the day I arrive. I doubt I will need to use my credit card May 25-27 while I am still in Spain. I may go to Canada in August - I will have to figure out what to do there later. I still need to find out what my credit union is going to do - but this new fee may be across the board. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 14:13:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47JDjWm007188 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:13:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 14:13:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00625FC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:13:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:13:44 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47JDhQF025358 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:13:44 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j47JDhbO010629 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:13:43 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j47JDg0V010627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:13:42 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 21:13:42 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience Message-ID: <20050507191342.GA10608@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = on a trip. I guess what I should have said instead of "I don't travel = enough to worry about it" was "I don't travel high enough on the hog to = worry about it." = = -- = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) one week at eur 100 per day (can you spend less than that for hotel and food) is eur 700. So eur 21. Still a nice lunch. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 14:23:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47JNYWm008529 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:23:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 14:23:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00626096@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:23:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:23:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47JNXlN026194 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:23:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j47JNXgV010711 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:23:33 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j47JNWft010709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:23:32 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 21:23:32 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience Message-ID: <20050507192332.GB10608@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 05:06:49PM +0200, bonniemaev wrote: = > = > Natalie, every fucking cent is important. Don't forget it. On EUR 2000 = > that's EUR 60. You could take me out to a nice dinner for that! -steph = = And yet you generously paid for our breakfast. For which I thank you = again. Think nothing of it. I would much rather have 3% of anything I might pay to the bank so I can treat some friends to breakfast. = It is my understanding that the best way to go during foreign travel is = withdrawing the local currency from an ATM. That is what we have been doing. = However, we also use our MBNA Visa card whenever necessary: hotel, dinner = meal in Bergen, sweaters, etc. = This is what we usually do - ATM and cash when possible and Visa when necessary. We got the same notice on our US Visa card except with a 5% fee on any transaction not in USD. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 14:39:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47JdfWm010470 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:39:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 14:39:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00625F25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:39:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:39:40 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47JdeTd027693 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:39:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507193940.LVXW2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:39:40 -0400 Message-ID: <427D1979.1010204@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 14:39:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> <20050507191342.GA10608@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050507191342.GA10608@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >one week at eur 100 per day (can you spend less than that for hotel and >food) is eur 700. So eur 21. Still a nice lunch. > > Yes, I can spend less than that for hotel and food. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 14:44:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47JiCWm010967 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:44:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 14:44:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F506A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:44:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:44:12 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47JiC6N028046 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:44:12 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5097631E8CF37 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:44:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001201c5533d$24efc150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: WBay.Com Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:44:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j47JiCWm010967 Gene replaced our car recently and did not trade our car in, so I have one in my garage for sale. If you know anyone who would be interested, it's a silver 99 Lincoln Towncar with chrome trim, in pristine condition, performs beautifully, priced to sell. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 14:46:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47JjxWm011179 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:46:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 14:46:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006260E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:45:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:45:59 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47Jjx2Y028168 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:45:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507194558.MALZ2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:45:58 -0400 Message-ID: <427D1AF4.20006@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 14:45:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Amazing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Baptist Church in NC has allegedly kicked out members who didn't vote for Bush: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Church-Politics.html? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 15:04:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47K4fWm013780 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:04:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 15:04:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006260B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:04:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:04:40 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47K4ehG030380 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:04:40 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 07 May 2005 16:04:40 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:04:11 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: WBay.Com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I draw the line at the coins :-) BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> dmarkld@INEBRASKA.COM 05/07/05 3:44 PM >>> Gene replaced our car recently and did not trade our car in, so I have one in my garage for sale. If you know anyone who would be interested, it's a silver 99 Lincoln Towncar with chrome trim, in pristine condition, performs beautifully, priced to sell. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 15:11:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47KB9Wm014473 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:11:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 15:11:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00625FBF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:11:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:11:08 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47KB8TN030951 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:11:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507201108.NEGU23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:11:08 -0400 Message-ID: <427D20D9.8060706@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:11:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: SF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did we ever decide to do something on Friday night? If any planning goes on after the wee hours on Thursday, May 12, please let me know at 662-242-0723. Or maybe by e-mail, though I'm wondering whether I should bother taking my computer to SF since I will have very little computer time. I'll ponder that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 15:54:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47KsaWm019742 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:54:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 15:54:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00626141@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:54:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:54:36 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47KsZ40002965 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:54:35 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j47KsYx8011159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:54:34 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j47KsYb0011157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:54:34 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 22:54:33 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience Message-ID: <20050507205433.GA11145@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> <20050507191342.GA10608@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D1979.1010204@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427D1979.1010204@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 02:39:37PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = steph wrote: = = >one week at eur 100 per day (can you spend less than that for hotel and = >food) is eur 700. So eur 21. Still a nice lunch. = > = > = Yes, I can spend less than that for hotel and food. = well then I am mightily impressed! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 15:57:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47KvaWm020052 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:57:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 15:57:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062604B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:57:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:57:36 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47KvaHo003125 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:57:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507205736.OVBW2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:57:36 -0400 Message-ID: <427D2BBD.1020708@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:57:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: SF Weather Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is for Wednesday through Friday: |Mostly clear. Warmer. Highs in the mid 60s to near 80 inland. But there's a big difference between mid 60s and near 80, the former still counting as winter, the latter as summer. Iow, there's a question of feet: sandals vs clogs. I don't know what "inland" means in this context. Am I going to be inland? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 16:11:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47LBLWm021719 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:11:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 16:11:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00626095@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:01:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 822243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:01:20 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47L1Kvp003500 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:01:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507210120.OZPV2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:01:20 -0400 Message-ID: <427D2C9D.6090307@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:01:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> <20050507191342.GA10608@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D1979.1010204@maynor.net> <20050507205433.GA11145@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050507205433.GA11145@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >= Yes, I can spend less than that for hotel and food. >= > >well then I am mightily impressed! > > Don't be. There's no particular reason to be impressed with slumming ability. The older I get, the more I tend to spend on hotel rooms because I don't like things like having to wander around up and down rickety stairs in the middle of the night looking for the public toilet. But I still spend very little on food. Lots of my travel food comes from places like convenience stores or cheap street vendors. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 16:29:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47LTLWm023460 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:29:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 16:29:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006260FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:29:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 823403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:29:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47LTKAf005464 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:29:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3622902nzp for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 14:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.19 with SMTP id l19mr861335nzb; Sat, 07 May 2005 14:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.15 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 14:29:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YCtqxhQLlEW1fTFM5qlxCakYstZy7c6QkMtQnaUzOpf5JdkemNWs67zYdKiwl7tou8lXh58RSwRRUFEiwpejhp3u7Bn+SLXjWoJInLOpzennBh+r6B5HBVeaD48FTWwgYBURuYwWZsucwLP45UmQNt4WUCZeXh2s4DIQW1Ir7Vo= Message-ID: <945393270505071429b4c4b0d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:29:20 -0700 From: Larry Clark Reply-To: Larry Clark To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SF Weather In-Reply-To: <427D2BBD.1020708@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <427D2BBD.1020708@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j47LTLAf005466 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > This is for Wednesday through Friday: > > |Mostly clear. Warmer. Highs in the mid 60s to near 80 inland. > Am I going to be inland? > S.F is going to be on the low end of the scale and Pinole will be 5-10 degress warmer than SF Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 16:42:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47Lg8Wm024921 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:42:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 16:42:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062611A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:42:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 823767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:42:07 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47Lg7Mj006774 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:42:07 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.16]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507214207.LOFS2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:42:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.16]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050507214207.VVGB1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:42:07 -0400 Message-ID: <427D362C.1010704@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:42:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SF Weather References: <427D2BBD.1020708@maynor.net> <945393270505071429b4c4b0d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <945393270505071429b4c4b0d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry Clark wrote: >S.F is going to be on the low end of the scale and Pinole will be 5-10 >degress warmer than SF > > Thanks! This is all very . I'm not used to 5-10-degree differences that close to each other. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 16:53:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47LrPWm026220 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 16:53:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 16:53:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062622A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:53:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 823900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:53:25 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47LrOhi007702 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:53:24 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j47LrNbv011485 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:53:23 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j47LrNUo011483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:53:23 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 23:53:23 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience Message-ID: <20050507215323.GA11446@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> <20050507191342.GA10608@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D1979.1010204@maynor.net> <20050507205433.GA11145@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D2C9D.6090307@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427D2C9D.6090307@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:01:17PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = steph wrote: = = >= Yes, I can spend less than that for hotel and food. = >= = > = >well then I am mightily impressed! = > = > = Don't be. There's no particular reason to be impressed with slumming = ability. The older I get, the more I tend to spend on hotel rooms = because I don't like things like having to wander around up and down = rickety stairs in the middle of the night looking for the public = toilet. But I still spend very little on food. Lots of my travel food = comes from places like convenience stores or cheap street vendors. = to hell with the food, i want to know how you find a hotel room with a toilet in the room for less than eur 90 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 17:10:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47MAFWm028099 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:10:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 17:10:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F509BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:10:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 824176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:10:15 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47M0DOc008238 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:00:13 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j47M0C0C004851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:00:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 18:00:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: re convenience Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Interesting discussion re budgets - I am trying to estimate average daily expenses in Barcelona. My room will be E 60 on weekdays and E 50 on weekends, so my 9 nights will run E 520 - plus E 2 for breakfast per day for 9 days. That's an average of E 60 per day. That leaves E 40 per day on average for meals/transportation/entertainment if I aim at E 100 per day total. Does that sound realistic? That would be E 538 + E 360 = E 898. Not bad. And perhaps realistic, because on the three days I teach, I will probably do little in the way of entertainment - and I will do little on the first and last days (except sleep that first day!). That will leave more for the 4-day weekend (F-M). I will, however, not hesitate to spend more if interesting oportunities present themselves. But the first time I was in Barcelona, I was living (all summer) on $5 a day (the book had just been published) for room and basic meals. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 17:31:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47MUwWm030634 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:30:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 17:31:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006261B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:30:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 825470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:30:58 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47MUwXO011568 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:30:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507223058.UEEF2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:30:58 -0400 Message-ID: <427D419F.9050104@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:30:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> <20050507191342.GA10608@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D1979.1010204@maynor.net> <20050507205433.GA11145@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D2C9D.6090307@maynor.net> <20050507215323.GA11446@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050507215323.GA11446@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >to hell with the food, i want to know how you find a hotel room with a >toilet in the room for less than eur 90 > > Easily. I either ask somebody for recommendations, or I get off a train and ask at the hotel-booking desk, or I find one online. I just googled for hotels in Amsterdam, and the first one that popped up was 65 euros with this description: ************************** Hotel Name: Delta Hotel City/Town: Amsterdam Room: Single Room Room information: All with: private shower/toilet, telephone, colour tv, movie facilities and safety boxes. The Delta Hotel has cosy and comfortable rooms with a 3 star standard, supplies with all modern conveniences in the centre of Amsterdam. The hotel has an elevator and a cafe-restaurant with a remarkable terrace. Price: € 65 *************************** from: http://tinyurl.com/dl239 You can find others here: http://www.easytobook.com/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 17:34:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47MYCWm030979 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:34:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 17:34:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006262CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:34:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 825616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:34:12 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47MYCxI011878 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:34:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507223412.UJWG2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:34:12 -0400 Message-ID: <427D4261.3060703@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:34:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re convenience References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >on the first and last days (except sleep that first day!). That will leave > > Do you take a nap after arriving? I'm afraid that would screw me up totally, even if I had any desire for a nap, which I never do. >But the first time I was in Barcelona, I was living (all summer) on $5 a >day (the book had just been published) for room and basic meals. > > Ah, the good old days. I remember easily living on $5 in Europe in '69. Tain't so now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 17:53:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47MqqWm000862 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:52:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 17:53:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062638C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:42:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 825777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:42:51 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47MgpLV012801 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:42:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F50A32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:42:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200505072242.j47MgpLV012801@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 18:42:51 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: SF Weather To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 7 May 2005 16:42:04 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Larry Clark wrote: > >>S.F is going to be on the low end of the scale and Pinole will be 5-10 >>degress warmer than SF >> >> >Thanks! This is all very . I'm not used to 5-10-degree >differences that close to each other. In SF, you can get 15-degree differences a couple of blocks from each other. Used to happen to me all the time when I was living out in the Avenues -- you leave the fog belt and suddenly go from freezing to toasty. That's why, every time you come to the Bay Area, I tell you to dress in layers, and you tell me you don't layers, and I figure you'll either be comfortable or not. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 17:53:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47MqqWm000865 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:52:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 17:53:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00626396@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:49:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 826026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:49:27 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47MnRLP013745 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:49:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507224927.VRXU1983.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:49:27 -0400 Message-ID: <427D45F4.4010109@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:49:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> <20050507191342.GA10608@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D1979.1010204@maynor.net> <20050507205433.GA11145@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D2C9D.6090307@maynor.net> <20050507215323.GA11446@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D419F.9050104@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <427D419F.9050104@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: And as I keep moving down the list, I keep finding more and more nice-sounding rooms for 45 euros, all with private shower/toilet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 17:53:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47MqqWm000866 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:52:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 17:53:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006262E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:48:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 825938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:48:13 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47MmDAB013560 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:48:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507224813.VPWN1983.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:48:13 -0400 Message-ID: <427D45AA.7080402@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:48:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427CD664.7040908@maynor.net> <20050507191342.GA10608@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D1979.1010204@maynor.net> <20050507205433.GA11145@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D2C9D.6090307@maynor.net> <20050507215323.GA11446@yoccoz.multinix.com> <427D419F.9050104@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <427D419F.9050104@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > for hotels in Amsterdam, and the first one that popped up was 65 euros > with this description: I would not, of course, have gone with the first pop-up. I just glanced through the list at that site and found one for 45 euros that sounds quite adequate for my needs: ********************** Hotel Manofa is located at the Damrak.This is one of the main streets of Amsterdam and enables easy walking access to most attractions, shopping areas, bars and restaurants. The great advantage is that the hotel is less than 5 minutes walk from the Central Station with in 20 minute express link to Schipol International Airport. A single ticket will cost you less than 4 euros for an adult. Our rooms offer private facilities: shower / w.c. colour television. The hotel also features an italian restaurant in where you can have an informal dinner. Kalverstraat, the main shopping street, is closeby, only 2 minutes by foot. Straight across the street there are many touring boats so you can go for a tour of the famous canals. *********************** -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 17:57:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47MviWm001425 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 17:57:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 17:57:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00626301@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:57:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 826328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:57:40 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47MveN3014513 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:57:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507225740.WECC1983.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:57:40 -0400 Message-ID: <427D47E1.4010300@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 17:57:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SF Weather References: <200505072242.j47MgpLV012801@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505072242.j47MgpLV012801@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: >every time you come to the Bay Area, I tell you to dress in layers, and you >tell me you don't layers, and I figure you'll either be comfortable or not. > > That's about it. The reason I don't do layers (as in take-off layers -- I often do stay-on layers) is that I have no under layers that I would be willing to wear in public -- as in the under layers are designed to stay under. If they were long enough to look decent by themselves, they'd hang out under the over layer, looking quite tacky. And, of course, the other reason I wouldn't want to do layers even if I could find layers that could be done decently is the problem of what to do with a removed over-layer. I hate carrying a bunch of junk around. (I don't do carry-on luggage either, btw, except in very unusual circumstances like moving somewhere for a year.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 18:06:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47N5tWm002592 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:05:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 18:06:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00626332@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:05:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 826265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:05:54 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47Mtsto014251 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:55:54 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j47MtpYH031861 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:55:52 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 18:55:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: naps Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: "Do you take a nap after arriving? I'm afraid that would screw me up totally, even if I had any desire for a nap, which I never do." Depends. Did I sleep during the flight - or was I kept awake by restless seat companions, etc? Did I get to do some exercises/stretching on the flight? My hotel has a nice exercise gym, so probably I will have lunch, then take a nap if I need one, then work out. I teach the next evening, so will be occupied with reviewing my lecture notes, learning some more Spanish, etc. that evening and the next morning. I imagine I will be on the campus much of that second day. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 18:37:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j47NbRWm006725 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 18:37:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 18:37:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062637D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:37:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 827836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:37:26 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j47NbQOw018950 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:37:26 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.16]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507233726.TEBU2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:37:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.16]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050507233725.DAFO1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:37:25 -0400 Message-ID: <427D5132.80103@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:37:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: naps References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Depends. Did I sleep during the flight - or was I kept awake by restless >seat companions, etc? Did I get to do some exercises/stretching on the >flight? > > I never sleep on flights -- not because I don't want to, just because I find planes very . I can sleep great on trains, but planes are different. I'm not sure why. >My hotel has a nice exercise gym, so probably I will have lunch, then take >a nap if I need one, then work out. > > I guess if somebody is in the habit of naps, it wouldn't make any difference -- wouldn't screw up your inner clock or whatever. I've never been a nap-taker. And I think if I did take a nap upon arrival in Europe, I might end up experiencing jet-lag, which is something I've never experienced (in going to Europe or in going or coming to/from Asia -- I think I've mentioned that I do find myself getting sleepy way early for the first couple of nights after returning from Europe, which is obviously jet-lag -- it's interesting to me that of the four possible occasions, it happens to me in only that one -- never in the other three). Anyway, my arrival-in-Europe routine is to enjoy that first day even though obviously sleep-deprived and then go to bed at a reasonable hour that night and wake up the next morning feeling totally normal. That's also my arrival-in-Asia routine except that there are fewer hours left in the day to mess around doing stuff. Have we ever discussed why flights to Europe from the US, or at least the eastern part of the US, always seem to depart in late afternoon or night? Although I've never studied the schedules to see whether early-morning departures exist, and surely a few do, I've never experienced or heard of a flight to Europe from the eastern part of the US departing at something like 8 or 9 a.m. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 19:11:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j480BgWm010655 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:11:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 19:11:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006263EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:11:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:11:42 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4801fLC020488 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:01:41 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4801emO002393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:01:40 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 20:01:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: "I guess if somebody is in the habit of naps, it wouldn't make any difference -- wouldn't screw up your inner clock or whatever. I've never been a nap-taker." I would not describe myself as a nap-taker - but if I have been up for 20 or more hours with no sleep, I like to get a little sleep. I probably take about two naps every year. I think I had one this past academic year - a very short one, in my office. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 19:38:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j480c2Wm014051 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 19:38:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 19:38:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062633F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:38:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:38:01 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j480c1kH022805 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:38:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050508003801.CJNL1983.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:38:01 -0400 Message-ID: <427D5F66.6030207@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 19:37:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Natalie: "I guess if somebody is in the habit of naps, it wouldn't make any >difference -- wouldn't screw up your inner clock or whatever. I've never >been a nap-taker." > >I would not describe myself as a nap-taker - but if I have been up for 20 >or more hours with no sleep, I like to get a little sleep. I probably take >about two naps every year. I think I had one this past academic year - a >very short one, in my office. > > I guess I meant not necessarily the "habit" of naps so much as not finding that nap-taking screws you up. I find that naps make me feel horribly groggy and that then I'm confused about when it's time to go to bed that night. I'd never make it in Spain (though I can do ok there for short stretches, even though I do stuff like read while others are taking siestas). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 20:25:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j481PVWm020661 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:25:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 20:25:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00626550@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:15:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:15:31 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4815Veg024899 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:05:31 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4815SG8004578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:05:29 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 21:05:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: spain Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: "I'd never make it in Spain (though I can do ok there for short stretches, even though I do stuff like read while others are taking siestas)." So do you live on 2-3 hours of sleep whiie you are in Spain? I had forgotten that my will actually fit right in, because it will in fact be a siesta! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 20:25:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j481PVWm020663 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:25:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 20:25:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006264AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:23:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 831163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:23:37 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j481DbDO025528 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:13:37 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j481DZf3010333 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:13:35 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 21:13:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: contract language Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just READ the entire missive from MBNA about the new rates. It is incredibly dense. I think I will have to translate it into English before I will be able to be certain that I understand all provisions. It's all about replacement provisions for Categories A, B, C, D purchases/advances etc. - and it is three pages of small type. My favorite line is the first one under "EQUAL CREDIT OPPORTUNITY NOTICE" - the last item dealt with: "We made these non-APR changes to your account primarily due to a change in our business practices." Like, "we are not screwing you hard enough, so we are changing our screwing techniques." And this is one of the better companies, I think. It has a slightly higher interest rate than some of my other cards, but I get WorldPoints and since I normally pay in full every month, I continue to use it. But once I have translated this document, I may cash in my WorldPoints and switch to another card for regular use. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 20:34:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j481Y5Wm021792 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:34:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 20:34:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006264CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:34:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 831740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:34:05 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j481Y5gD026684 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:34:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050508013404.FFXR13146.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:34:04 -0400 Message-ID: <427D6C8A.6080809@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:34:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: spain References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Natalie: "I'd never make it in Spain (though I can do ok there for short >stretches, even though I do stuff like read while others are taking >siestas)." > >So do you live on 2-3 hours of sleep whiie you are in Spain? > > A bit more than that. The last time I went to Spain, it worked out pretty well because I flew straight to Spain and adapted by letting my body think the hours weren't what they really were. Iow, in my usual adapting to whatever time zone I've arrived in, I tricked my body into thinking it was a different time zone. I went to bed that first night around 12 or 1 and got up the next morning around 8. I told my body that it was really 9 or 10 when I went to bed and and 4 or 5 when I got up. (This worked only because of the transatlantic flight I'd just gotten off of. Iow, I could not sit here tonight and announce to my body that it was really whatever o'clock.) The next few nights I stayed up a bit later, including one night until about 3, but I continued to get up around 8 or so instead of my usual 5 or so, meaning I got a fair amount of sleep. I think I mentioned earlier that my real sleep deprivation came when I went on to France. I had thought that my hours would become normal again upon arriving in France since I knew that the friend I was staying with there also got up around 5. And that part was true -- she does get up around 5. What I hadn't realized is that she needs very little sleep and doesn't go to bed until midnight or later. Because the apartment was tiny, it would have been difficult to follow different sleeping habits, so I went to bed after midnight and got up around 5 -- way too little sleep for me. >I had forgotten that my will actually fit right in, because it will in >fact be a siesta! > > I've read that the siesta is fading out among some Spaniards. But my uncle and his friends most definitely still observe it. They go to bed around 2 or 3 a.m., after dinner at 10:30 or 11:00, get up around 9, eat lunch around 3, take a siesta from about 4-5. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 20:50:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j481o1Wm023750 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:50:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 20:50:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006263E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:50:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 831933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:50:01 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j481dx0R027059 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:39:59 -0400 Received: (qmail 48491 invoked by uid 1003); 8 May 2005 01:39:59 -0000 Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 20:39:59 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language Message-ID: <20050508013959.GA43437@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 09:13:37PM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I just READ the entire missive from MBNA about the new rates. It is > incredibly dense. I think I will have to translate it into English > before I will be able to be certain that I understand all provisions. I am pretty lucky ... I can sink this kind of nervous energy into software instead, and charge for it and recoup all the money these MBNA people are SCREWING me out of. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 20:58:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j481wOWm024758 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:58:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 20:58:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006264FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:58:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 832314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:58:24 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j481wNu1028276; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:58:24 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101665577; Sat, 07 May 2005 18:58:23 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:58:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:13 PM 5/7/2005, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >And this is one of the better companies, I think. It has a slightly higher >interest rate than some of my other cards, but I get WorldPoints and >since I normally pay in full every month, I continue to use it. But once I >have translated this document, I may cash in my WorldPoints and switch to >another card for regular use. > >Bethany Don't you think that the other cards will follow suit? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 21:31:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j482UuWm029171 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:30:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 21:31:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00626500@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:00:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 832394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:00:55 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4820toc028412 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:00:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050508020055.FOCK23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:00:55 -0400 Message-ID: <427D72D1.6000305@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:00:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <20050508013959.GA43437@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050508013959.GA43437@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >I am pretty lucky ... I can sink this kind of nervous energy into >software instead, and charge for it and recoup all the money these >MBNA people are SCREWING me out of. > > Hey, Tushykins. Today was a drop-dead gorgeous day here. How was it in Chicago? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 21:31:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j482UuWm029173 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 21:30:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 21:31:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00626402@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:08:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 832682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:08:26 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j482867j029034 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:08:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050508020806.GCTC23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:08:06 -0400 Message-ID: <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:08:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: >> interest rate than some of my other cards, but I get WorldPoints and >> since I normally pay in full every month, I continue to use it. But >> once I >> have translated this document, I may cash in my WorldPoints and >> switch to >> another card for regular use. > > And this is one of the better companies, I think. It has a slightly > higher > > Don't you think that the other cards will follow suit? I'll report if I see anything about it in my WorldPerks Visa info, though I must admit that I don't normally read much of the stuff that I get from them -- it's usually stuff telling me that my credit limit has been upped to something absurdly high. It seems dumb to me for them to think that somebody who always pays her bills would be lured into charging more than she can afford. I don't care what my credit limit is. That has no to me. (Nor does whatever their interest rate is have any to me.) If I can't afford something, I don't buy it. That philosophy has served me well for many years, and I'm not about to change it in old age. Supposedly there's a fee for having a WorldPerks Visa, but I've never seen that charge on my bill. Either they have forgotten all these years, or it's a myth that there is some kind of charge. I love my WorldPerks Visa -- I'm thinking again about how super kind and helpful they were when the gypsies stole it in Paris. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 22:10:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j483AWWm001699 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:10:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 22:10:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00626494@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:55:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:55:41 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j482tfi3032366 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:55:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050508025541.JNBG23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:55:41 -0400 Message-ID: <427D7FAA.7030509@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:55:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Either/Or References: <427D7E74.80208@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <427D7E74.80208@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > If you don't hear from me again, check the news > for an attack on Jackson. But somehow the rhythm sounds fireworkish > to me. All is quiet again, and Spencer and I are fine. So I think it wasn't Sherman's incarnation. I think we're safe. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 22:10:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j483AWWm001701 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:10:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 22:10:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00626622@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:06:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 838089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:06:14 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4836Ejd001808 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:06:14 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005050803061301400g5br6e>; Sun, 8 May 2005 03:06:13 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Quiz Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 23:08:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <427CCC49.7020404@bc.edu> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Not in my estimation. Born and raised and still living in > Massachusetts, Me too! > I get this: 45% (Yankee). Barely into the Yankee category. I was 39%. Or 37. I don't remember. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 22:10:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j483AWWm001702 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:10:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 22:10:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00626632@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:50:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:50:31 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j482oVXI032024 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:50:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050508025031.JFCJ23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:50:31 -0400 Message-ID: <427D7E74.80208@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:50:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Either/Or Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Either Jackson is being attacked right now, or there is some kind of occasion for major fireworks. I'm just glad that Spencer isn't as scared of noises as Bernardykins was. Poor Bernardykins would be a basket case right now. If you don't hear from me again, check the news for an attack on Jackson. But somehow the rhythm sounds fireworkish to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 22:12:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j483CWWm001997 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:12:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 22:12:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F50FC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:12:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 838544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:12:31 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j483CVJe002323 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:12:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.16]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050508031231.KJWG23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:12:31 -0400 Message-ID: <427D839C.8090507@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:12:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>Not in my estimation. Born and raised and still living in >>Massachusetts, >> >> > >Me too! > > >>I get this: 45% (Yankee). Barely into the Yankee category. >> >> >I was 39%. Or 37. I don't remember. > > As somebody pointed out, there's something seriously amiss with the quiz -- that the default is Southern. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 22:43:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j483hIWm006177 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:43:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 22:43:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006267E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:33:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 839913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:33:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j483XIt9004057 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:33:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3668404nzp for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 20:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.16 with SMTP id h16mr868793nzc; Sat, 07 May 2005 20:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2005 20:33:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=a+FXXGY0MzsG3nARa6zzkI7enfD4nnnxXXS9AP1r4rp3jwLiU2Mm9zWnORfRiu8YuwFOLIWN+fDhjj2lx1VFPtCXl3mG8x369jPAWGdm4N1KWxwUGX8U0Oxotw0JD2n64EXik3OiWH2xV2pwREM/BuywHeuEuNFufInQli7OgQc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 22:33:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j483hIWm006177 On 5/7/05, steph wrote: > > Ping pong balls. Real ones crush too quickly, but kitty ones are a bit > sturdier. I bought two balls, one is soft, and one is a pink pingpong ball. I also bought a cardboard scratching "post", which was a big hit (there was one inhis rescue home). I pulled out the soft ball, but he was not amused. I'm saving the pingpong ball for tomorrow. He's MUCH calmer now than he was last night/this morning. I think he's just getting used to being here. He's eating well, and he IS using the litter box, though I haven't specifically check for poop. I feel like a new mother. (Though I expect that to wear off quickly.) I snuck out to work this afternoon while he was sleeping. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 7 23:38:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j484cXWm014392 for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 23:38:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 07 May 2005 23:38:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5124D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 0:28:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 843804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 00:28:33 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j484SWMj008180 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 00:28:32 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j484SVXX013630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 06:28:31 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j484SVIK013628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 06:28:31 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 06:28:31 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys Message-ID: <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = I pulled out the soft ball, but he was not amused. I'm saving the pingpong = ball for tomorrow. = Don't give up on it. Some toys just take a little longer to become fun. = He's MUCH calmer now than he was last night/this morning. I think he's just = getting used to being here. He's eating well, and he IS using the litter = box, though I haven't specifically check for poop. = I have no idea how we used to go for a week without cleaning the litter box. In part the cats I had as a kid were outside a lot. Now I have three boxes for two cats, and if I don't scoop out the poop daily it is very nasty in the box. Some of it is that we're using wood pellets. = I feel like a new mother. (Though I expect that to wear off quickly.) I = snuck out to work this afternoon while he was sleeping. = = Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 00:28:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j485ShWm021765 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 00:28:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 00:28:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00626A2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 1:28:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 845564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 01:28:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j485IYYr011367 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 01:18:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 90510 invoked by uid 1003); 8 May 2005 05:18:33 -0000 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 00:18:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language Message-ID: <20050508051833.GA70786@words-l.org> References: <20050508013959.GA43437@words-l.org> <427D72D1.6000305@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427D72D1.6000305@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 09:00:49PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >I am pretty lucky ... I can sink this kind of nervous energy into > >software instead, and charge for it and recoup all the money these > >MBNA people are SCREWING me out of. > > > Hey, Tushykins. Today was a drop-dead gorgeous day here. How was it in > Chicago? It was drop-dead tolerable, thanks. I got a lot done. A LOT. It was GREAT. When I was at the "Golden Nugget" I read in the Sun Times that the department had painted over the Mary. Weird, huh. It's because this guy Victor Gonzalez (ASSHOLE!) painted the word "Lie" or something over the holy image. He's gonna pay, for damaging state property (it's a mark of respect). You really do feel like STRANGLING taggers don't you. Well at least the guy on the seat behind me on the train feels so--I heard him because he was being passionate about a cause to ... some chick ... and he reeked of Old Spice, a GREAT cologne for young men. Then I fell asleep. The story also talked about two women who came by and removed the paint AND the graffitti. Everything is all right now! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 02:52:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j487q5Wm009734 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 02:52:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 02:52:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00626AD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 3:52:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 850453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 03:52:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j487q4BH021400 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 03:52:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1702194wra for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 00:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.89.13 with SMTP id m13mr1800788wrb; Sun, 08 May 2005 00:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sun, 8 May 2005 00:52:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=i82gijsJBL+BK2E6JkKbkwUJVjqNOdWitm5JGqN8LwRiS4Lt3WpU3kcEod34MGQtPCzAXgIHe1dNbgAfN3IS8G+/6GFIcDFBL7HRzuVasRaTm49bObrQLWN1/a5K3gD4NUBhYtqWGyQG/yA+KjNg11jQj7WS8dD6YPVMr+sCwUU= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:52:04 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re convenience In-Reply-To: <427D4261.3060703@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427D4261.3060703@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j487q5Wm009734 > > >on the first and last days (except sleep that first day!). That will > leave > > Do you take a nap after arriving? I'm afraid that would screw me up > totally, even if I had any desire for a nap, which I never do. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Clyde and I both took a nap for about 90 minutes upon arriving in Bergen. It felt more like passing out than napping. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 07:19:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48CJOWm020516 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 07:19:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 07:19:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F51976@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 8:19:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 08:19:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48CJNbO031437 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 08:19:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1737403wra for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 05:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.78.2 with SMTP id a2mr1887081wrb; Sun, 08 May 2005 05:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sun, 8 May 2005 05:19:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EI4jaL6zrYTyOxWQKuKBodYUZ9TdJZojPokQcq9BmYiPl458i9xl3tSS2FmUDaG40kf7EPCbJcv7/El7pI1i+X9E9RH8rm2w2ywv1w/hk6VRdWgwTdh/q8r5hzmGWocXQWOjBhr5B5jJ25I19vgm5Mf5bEQI0ZIWFzTeMq5oHW0= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 14:19:22 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: tcombs@prexar.com, Rose Ann , Marialice , Loretta , Lisa Demuro , Jenny and Keven , Jane , Holly , Hearthside B&B , English Language Discussion Group , April Subject: Last full day onboard Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j48CJOWm020516 It's another beautiful, sunny day in Norway. We left Trondheim mid-morning. We sailed past the shipyard where this boat, the Midnatsol, was built in 2003. Now we are sailing past windmill farms and small islands. We have sailed back into Spring from the frozen north. We will disembark in Bergen tomorrow afternoon at 2:30. Because we are in a suite, we are allowed to have possesion of our cabin right until disembarkation. The little people must vacate their cabins at 10:00 a.m. This is a real plus. We'll be able to enjoy our balcony and sofa right up until the point they call for Deck seven to leave the ship. We did tell the chambermaid, however, that she could change the bed early and get a headstart on cleaning the room. I will probably write one more time from Bergen tomorrow afternoon. Then, home sweet home. I'm looking forward to the late night drive home from the Bangor airport. There will be a dark night sky and maybe even stars. Yippee! -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 07:25:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48CPoWm021527 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 07:25:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 07:25:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00626FF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 8:25:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 08:25:50 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48CFogE031205 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 08:15:50 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j48CFkmD030965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 08:15:47 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 08:15:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: affording it Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: "I'll report if I see anything about it in my WorldPerks Visa info, though I must admit that I don't normally read much of the stuff that I get from them -- ... I don't care what my credit limit is. That has no to me. (Nor does whatever their interest rate is have any to me.) If I can't afford something, I don't buy it. That philosophy has served me well for many years, and I'm not about to change it in old age." In the furture, you will probably need to add 3% overseas when you are deciding whether you can afford something. Of course other companies may follow suit - but OTOH credit unions may be able to keep the fee rate lower. I have heard from only MBNA so far. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 08:28:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48DS6Wm031708 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 08:28:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 08:28:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F519FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 9:28:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 09:28:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48DS4L0004535 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 09:28:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3744009nzp for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 06:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr901312nzu; Sun, 08 May 2005 06:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 8 May 2005 06:28:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nQCumdC/YhgLLLXIVlT6LhL2CsXLHPUwsLkLiYQj7f3ja/uW5PQg81lsvCw4gU7Qt5M/MQwVqz7qFX4Kll4/1Cyexrr62y2++JTycmH00bfIr3KPqpoUzcWQGHqSDGBkcQfqwQkFAv3sEN8qdVMjv8Yf8NDSYNEKZV2TC7YQpZU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505080628373fd9e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 08:28:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j48DS6Wm031708 On 5/7/05, steph wrote: > > = I pulled out the soft ball, but he was not amused. I'm saving the > pingpong > = ball for tomorrow. > = > > Don't give up on it. Some toys just take a little longer to become fun. Well, he discovered where I keep all my balls of yarn ends, and those seem to be the most fun. I have no idea how we used to go for a week without cleaning the litter > box. In part the cats I had as a kid were outside a lot. My deal with Burl is that she would go outside. It was only in the last six months of her life that I bought the litterbox, because sometimes I didn't open the door fast enough. This cat is going to be indoors for a month, so I expect to have to do many litterbox changes for a while. I wonder if he knows to go outside--he was an indoor cat till he he was abandoned. Poor kitty--it's thundering and lightninging, but I'm going to leave him all alone while I go to breakfast. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 10:03:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48F3LWm013856 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 10:03:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 10:03:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F51B9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 11:03:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 11:03:21 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48F3KD1011654 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 11:03:20 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j48F3J7Q032515 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 11:03:20 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j48F2iLT014593 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 11:02:45 -0400 Message-ID: <006701c553de$fee283b0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Fw: Benedict begins His Purge--More on the firing of an editor Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 11:02:45 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j48F3LWm013856 Sent: Sunday, 08 May, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: Benedict begins His Purge--More on the firing of an editor This is from ASullivanBlog: THE PURGE BEGINS: The Jesuit magazine, America, has been one of the few Catholic magazines to air, respectfully, all sides of the issues now current in the Church. It's a fair, informed and moderate intellectual voice - one of the few left standing in the Church. Its extraordinarily gifted editor, Tom Reese, interviewed me about homosexuality and the Church a few years back. He was a ubiquitous and learned commentator on television during the last conclave, is anything but a radical, and his great gift was simply in allowing respectful debate in the pages of his magazine. Here's a sample of his extraordinary career in service of his deep faith: Besides numerous articles and editorials in America, he also has been published in The Washington Post, The National Tax Journal, Tax Notes, The Social Science Journal, The Jurist, The Bible Today, Biblical Theology, Biblical Theology Bulletin, The Tablet (of London), The National Catholic Reporter, Concilium, The Living Light, Etudes, The Catholic Digest, Worship, Catholic News Service, and Religion News Service. In 2000, the Jesuit School of Theology at Berkeley conferred on him the degree of Doctor of Divinity, honoris causa. Here's another bio of this alleged danger to the Church. You can read the interview with me here. Tell me if you think it's disrespectful or outrageous. Ratzinger has now fired him. The magazine never campaigned against church doctrine; it merely aired serious, scholarly articles that raised both sides of many issues. But, according to this petty, prissy tyrant now running the Church, Catholics are not allowed to think through both sides of any issue. This is a signal that not even moderate, calm, balanced and respectful examination of Church doctrine or Church government will be allowed in future. The measures Ratzinger used as prefect will actually be intensified as Pope, until all free thought is extinguished. We were fed p.r. that the new Pope was humble, would be conciliatory, would be a pastor not a dictator. I never believed it. We have had the first sign. It's as dangerous as it is predictable. Message to Catholics: remove your minds. Message to Catholic thinkers: obey on everything - or we will fire you. One silver lining: If I were a Jesuit, I would take the hostility of this clerical tyrant as a badge of honor. Firing this moderate, quiet, modest man is really a call to arms for those of us who need to save our church from this disastrous choice for the papacy. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 10:55:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48FsxWm021708 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 10:55:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 10:55:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006272C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 11:54:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 11:54:57 -0400 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48Fsusk020110 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 11:54:56 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.d6.262875e1 (4184) for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 11:54:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 11:54:53 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Cat toys To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 5/8/2005 8:28:14 AM Central Daylight Time, innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: << This cat is going to be indoors for a month, so I expect to have to do many litterbox changes for a while. >> First: congratulations on the new kitty! Second: EVERYTHING is a cat toy, even if it not designed as such, Third: the clumping litter is great. You only have to fill the box once a week and scoop out the clumps every day. Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com How can a little cat have such a loud voice? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 11:35:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48GZfWm028364 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 11:35:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 11:35:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062749E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 12:15:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:15:41 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48GFeWN022897 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:15:40 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101819646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 08 May 2005 09:15:37 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 09:16:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Last full day onboard In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bonnie, do you realize that you keep giving us all your friend's addresses on these e-mails? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 12:03:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48H3cWm000145 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:03:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:03:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F52064@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 12:43:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:43:37 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48Ghaqj026331 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:43:37 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j48GhZYO017333 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 18:43:35 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j48GhZxZ017331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 18:43:35 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 18:43:34 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys Message-ID: <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For Karen of the longhaired beast: This came up in one of the Dutch comic strips I read last week. http://www.foksuk.nl/imggif.php?i=/upload/d809.gif Translation: Fokke & Sukke (the ducks in the strip) look at the weblog of Carolien Fokke: You don't see that so often anymore: Sukke: ...a girl of 18 with a longhaired puss From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 12:10:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48HAnWm001212 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:10:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:10:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006275E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 12:50:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:50:48 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48Golm9026880 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:50:48 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j48Golrk017376 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 18:50:47 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j48Gok0C017374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 18:50:46 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 18:50:46 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Last full day onboard Message-ID: <20050508165046.GB17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 09:16:15AM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: = Bonnie, do you realize that you keep giving us all your friend's addresses = on these e-mails? What kind of wierdass stuff do you think TS will send them? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 12:10:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48HAnWm001211 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:10:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:10:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006275FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 13:05:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 13:05:50 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48H5oxX027723; Sun, 8 May 2005 13:05:50 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101833766; Sun, 08 May 2005 10:05:49 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508100511.02f2e7d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 10:06:27 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Last full day onboard In-Reply-To: <20050508165046.GB17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050508165046.GB17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:50 AM 5/8/2005, steph wrote: >On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 09:16:15AM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: >= Bonnie, do you realize that you keep giving us all your friend's addresses >= on these e-mails? > >What kind of wierdass stuff do you think TS will send them? He was the first one I worried about, too. I figured we could all apologize to April again. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 12:36:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48HZrWm005256 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:35:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:36:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00627560@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 13:25:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 13:25:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48HPq0J028789 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 13:25:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3787577nzp for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 10:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.18 with SMTP id h18mr937015nzh; Sun, 08 May 2005 10:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 8 May 2005 10:25:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WW8E0uZawatONpYXZtoOi7ljWk+NZvyepFE6rEn/QpSn1AVvpnx99YTyD8oPThqEhMUY9iDz3EBfY7HQSv1QH/Yc6HeMbgXc9jYWrjlpdEJBOeRLFumhynHel1F2rdmDDRnlVNBVBvLmy9R9GKROzzgYUL+3xPxQY/ITjq6fsrY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050810257d594e94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 12:25:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Last full day onboard In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508100511.02f2e7d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050508165046.GB17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050508100511.02f2e7d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j48HZrWm005256 On 5/8/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > At 09:50 AM 5/8/2005, steph wrote: > >On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 09:16:15AM -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: > >= Bonnie, do you realize that you keep giving us all your friend's > addresses > >= on these e-mails? > > > >What kind of wierdass stuff do you think TS will send them? > > He was the first one I worried about, too. I figured we could all > apologize to April again. > Not me. I don't apologize for things I don't do. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 12:50:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48HnsWm007365 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 12:49:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:50:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00627497@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 13:49:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 13:49:54 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j48HdqFG029976 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 13:39:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 87574 invoked by uid 1003); 8 May 2005 17:39:51 -0000 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 12:39:51 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys Message-ID: <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU hehhhehhehehhehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheehehhehehhhhehehehhehe On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 06:43:34PM +0200, steph wrote: > For Karen of the longhaired beast: > > This came up in one of the Dutch comic strips I read last week. > > http://www.foksuk.nl/imggif.php?i=/upload/d809.gif > > Translation: > Fokke & Sukke (the ducks in the strip) > look at the weblog of Carolien > > Fokke: > You don't see that so often anymore: > > Sukke: > ...a girl of 18 with a longhaired puss From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 13:17:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48IGuWm011878 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 13:16:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 13:17:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006275EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 14:06:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 14:06:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48I6tfO032385 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 14:06:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3794971nzp for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 11:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.42.19 with SMTP id p19mr937343nzp; Sun, 08 May 2005 11:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 8 May 2005 11:06:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qFTIfrxzhF47t5bR6bgPnSdajqqcR+DU99qlftqKKGOk57d/kXfk32ozZgaNC4mzTLpRGSsI+ISD6G6KM8kjk77WFsZHoi407vjwdxYI6rWEZXt0rE9FAeZ60hewTD45IP50wZuR8TlXpKfIcyCAFyoch2VQHeWLuvPu+lZ5ORk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050811063b102888@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 13:06:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: There are still places left! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j48IGuWm011878 http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/library/ahc/ohp03.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 13:17:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48IGuWm011876 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 13:16:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 13:17:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006274E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 14:07:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 14:07:26 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48I7P37032450 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 14:07:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.220.222]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050508180725.GFMJ1983.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 14:07:25 -0400 Message-ID: <427E555A.5060703@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 13:07:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Last full day onboard References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Bonnie, do you realize that you keep giving us all your friend's > addresses > on these e-mails? Why don't I see them? The only "to" line I ever see in list mail is the words-l address. I never see cc's or other to's. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 14:54:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48JseWm024921 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 14:54:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 14:54:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006277B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 15:54:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 15:54:40 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48JsdFs006928 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 15:54:39 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j48JscnA018226 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:54:38 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j48JsckC018224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:54:38 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 21:54:37 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys Message-ID: <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 12:39:51PM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: = hehhhehhehehhehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheehehhehehhhhehehehhehe = ^-^ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 14:57:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48JuoWm025157 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 14:56:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 14:57:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00627705@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 15:56:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 15:56:50 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48JuhAp007125 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 15:56:43 -0400 Received: from mxfep02 ([195.54.107.73] [195.54.107.73]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050508195642.JYCA9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02>; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:56:42 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: , , , , , , , Subject: Taipei, day 1 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 21:56:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050508195642.JYCA9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It is Monday and time to go to work. I'm going along to Zinwell, the company Dan works together with, and so I gotta dress for success. I had on a lime green suit with a magenta colored silk tank top, quite a formidable sight. That is probably why I got a lot of looks and stares on the subway. It isn't often that they see a giant Western woman with an enormous ass. I was so tall compared to most of the women that I could look down on the tops of their heads and see if they had any dandruff (they didn't). It was finally nice to meet Dan's business companions, Johnson, Martin, Robert and the others. I worked a little and tried to participate in the conversation but my jetlag was killin' me. I stayed until lunch and took the subway back to the hotel, worked a little, read some e-mail and passed out from fatigue. Dinner was the highlight of the day. Johnson, the contact person from Zinwell and Martin took me, Dan and Lars out to a vegetarian restaurant that served French food. Lars was in a mood because he was being forced to eat vegetarian. He lives for his beer and when he found out the restaurant didn't serve any, he sat quietly and pouted for the rest of the evening. Fine with me because that way he didn't get on my nerves. The meal was very good, even though I too was bummed about not having a beer with my dinner and the restaurant was a little shabby (they had paper plates at the salad bar!). I had a lentil bisque, salad, a cheese- filled crepe and pumpkin macaroni. And dessert was coffee and panacotta. The coffee was surprisingly good! Johnson could understand and speak enough English that we communicated quite well and he seemed to be an outgoing and genuine person. Martin, on the other hand, was a bit strange. He seemed nice but shy and not at ease. I tried to converse with him but every time I spoke, he blushed in 9 shades of red and looked at Johnson for support. I finally gave up. Here's being mean for you...He had an unfortunate mole under his lower lip and there was a hair growing out of it. It reminded me of a fish with whiskers or tentacles or whatever you would call them. I had a hard time NOT seeing it. I know, I know....shame on me!!! Lars and I finally got our long awaited beer at the hotel bar but we weren't big party animals and we all turned in early. I dozed a little but really couldn't sleep. Instead I listened to the thunderstorm that was over Taipei that night. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 15:21:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48KLJWm028488 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 15:21:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 15:21:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062776D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 16:21:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 16:21:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48KLJdn009289 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 16:21:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3819775nzp for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 13:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.20 with SMTP id y20mr950750nzb; Sun, 08 May 2005 13:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 8 May 2005 13:21:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bWLoC1X3Vj64eXv2ovpdE8AFOJ4Xawer4qAOLNfK1t5zRce2OtD+yGRvHldPvJmh0rRUME3GAS/Hzs1453VSj2ftfcqM5d/QNuWMKgfj4jymJJ2iRIwdZpRBoNU0Q4uWEe/XZG4MEV+F08XaTxTynh8eMpwIxwuEh3EsFEaIO2g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 15:21:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j48KLJWm028488 On 5/8/05, steph wrote: > > On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 12:39:51PM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > = hehhhehhehehhehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheehehhehehhhhehehehhehe > = > > ^-^ I am totally rolling my eyes at both of you. What do you do with someone who can't tell the difference between architecture and implementationk, but is convinced that he understands everything perfectly? Karen, perturbed, thinking whoopie cushion From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 17:07:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48M7ZWm011985 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 17:07:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 17:07:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006279E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 18:07:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 27880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 18:07:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j48LvXee017047 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 17:57:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 77477 invoked by uid 1003); 8 May 2005 21:57:32 -0000 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 16:57:32 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys Message-ID: <20050508215732.GA74885@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 03:21:18PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/8/05, steph wrote: > > On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 12:39:51PM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > = hehhhehhehehhehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheehehhehehhhhehehehhehe > > = > > > > ^-^ > > > I am totally rolling my eyes at both of you. > > What do you do with someone who can't tell the difference between > architecture and implementationk, but is convinced that he understands > everything perfectly? Give him the "Punniest of the Show" award From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 18:53:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48NrcWm026100 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 18:53:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 18:53:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00627B00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 19:43:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 19:43:38 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48NXcDJ025609 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 19:33:38 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j48NXZOf014890 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 19:33:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 19:33:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: security Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Times change. I have never locked a suitcase when traveling, but I finally bought a lockable suitcase for my trip to Barcelona. It is a 21" Eddie Bauer carryon that I plan to live out of for 10 days. It's a really nice one - expands a bit - and was priced below retail at Tarzhay today. I will need a briefcase-type bag also, preferably one that also locks. I bought 2 small locks today - I think I will be able to use a bag I already own. I also now own a moneybag - my first - and my TravelSmith waist bag should arrive this week. I am not doing all this because I will be carrying valuables - but I prefer not to lose all my clothing and academic stuff on the way over or at the airport. Now I have a few more papers to grade and two sets of grades to complete. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 18:53:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j48NrcWn026100 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 18:53:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 18:53:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00627A20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 19:51:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 19:51:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j48NpKMw026997 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 19:51:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3857665nzp for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 16:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.3 with SMTP id a3mr968347nzc; Sun, 08 May 2005 16:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 8 May 2005 16:51:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PhIh/tFBQaWJmulCYFhsF+MUP+1rDm52keOqBpshQz72s9szu30l0E2KdoX3q3TA1+yi/PqI43YYXt4BaJv4BFhW4JCXyUTKUMA76MjedQo3pMElBjdgkHkPdBmlLii00cgwKdXsSREylv2yKZol7Tkfr0/65+gANJdIQfY6vk0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050816511a187720@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 18:51:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j48NrcWn026100 On 5/8/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > Times change. I have never locked a suitcase when traveling, but I > finally bought a lockable suitcase for my trip to Barcelona. Don't forget that you can't lock it on the plane--they'll break the lock. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 20:16:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j491GiWm005139 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 20:16:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 20:16:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00627C5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 21:16:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:16:43 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j491Gh84003147 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:16:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.96]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509011643.QIC2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:16:43 -0400 Message-ID: <427EB9F2.3040702@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 20:16:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: security References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Times change. I have never locked a suitcase when traveling, but I >finally bought a lockable suitcase for my trip to Barcelona. > Your timing seems backwards to me. I started locking checked luggage after having a tape-recorder and some other stuff stolen from a suitcase (almost certainly by the baggage people in Atlanta) in the mid '80s. But I have now quit locking because of the new security stuff. Although at some airports it's still ok to check a locked bag if you unlock it for the guards at the beginning, there's still the chance that it might be hacked open by other security guards at some point. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 20:25:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j491P5Wm006227 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 20:25:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 20:25:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F52A4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 21:25:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:25:03 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j491F3cM002963 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:15:03 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j491EuUG008237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:15:00 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 21:14:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: more re security Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: Don't forget that you can't lock it on the plane--they'll break the lock. Hmmm - that's the first time I have heard that. My observation has been that once you are through security, you can lock it. Is this new? The guide books often caution one to have luggage locked on the plane, especially if one plans to sleep. Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 20:37:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j491bZWm007992 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 20:37:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 20:37:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00627D52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 21:37:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:37:34 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j491bYKt004996 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:37:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.96]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509013734.LKRN2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:37:34 -0400 Message-ID: <427EBEDB.1080700@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 20:37:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more re security References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Karen: Don't forget that you can't lock it on the plane--they'll break >the lock. > >Hmmm - that's the first time I have heard that. My observation has been >that once you are through security, you can lock it. Is this new? The >guide books often caution one to have luggage locked on the plane, >especially if one plans to sleep. > > I assumed that Karen was talking about checked luggage. I don't think there are any rules about carry-on luggage since you and your key are with it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 21:46:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j492kjWm018076 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:46:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 21:46:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00627E42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 22:46:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:46:45 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j492kiv7010767 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:46:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.96]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509024644.DRZA2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:46:44 -0400 Message-ID: <427ECF11.5050803@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 21:46:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Eisenhower Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > "Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, > unemployment > insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not > hear of > that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter > group, > of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are > a few > Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from > other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid." > > ----President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1952----- > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 21:48:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j492mhWm018385 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:48:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 21:48:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00627C91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 22:48:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:48:43 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j492mg4j010947 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:48:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.96]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509024842.DUTV2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:48:42 -0400 Message-ID: <427ECF87.1040503@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 21:48:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: I {heart} my roof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just looked back at a picture of my house taken before it was mine and compared it with a recent one -- and it made me realize how much I {heart} my tin roof: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/before-after.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 21:59:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j492x6Wm019783 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 21:59:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 21:59:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F52C8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 22:59:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:59:05 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j492x5hM011997 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:59:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.96]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509025905.JGQN2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 22:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: <427ED1F1.6010802@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 21:58:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Eisenhower References: <427ECF11.5050803@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <427ECF11.5050803@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >> ----President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1952----- > I researched it after posting that and found that it was 1956. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 8 23:15:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j494FRWm031840 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 23:15:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 23:15:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F52E13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 8 May 2005 23:15:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 46423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 8 May 2005 23:15:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j493FQJW014592 for ; Sun, 8 May 2005 23:15:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so3900243nzp for ; Sun, 08 May 2005 20:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.16 with SMTP id h16mr976231nzc; Sun, 08 May 2005 20:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Sun, 8 May 2005 20:15:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cDfDKGrIL221r0kSyIscI+xYxo/JKIpx8rBTMRl0AiXooeABWEKeWxokCXzrNCkULE28wH0Lk0jHIEcRDzT9vjlO9ka2lHn6QsHKLXt7C2GLmWK92damJGkLec1973V52P7W3QNxwTLricii97G2v6m0SWDY5/jImkibkG5iwmY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050820152e1ee2cc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 22:15:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more re security In-Reply-To: <427EBEDB.1080700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427EBEDB.1080700@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j494FRWm031840 Yes. On 5/8/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > >Karen: Don't forget that you can't lock it on the plane--they'll break > >the lock. > > > >Hmmm - that's the first time I have heard that. My observation has been > >that once you are through security, you can lock it. Is this new? The > >guide books often caution one to have luggage locked on the plane, > >especially if one plans to sleep. > > > > > I assumed that Karen was talking about checked luggage. I don't think > there are any rules about carry-on luggage since you and your key are > with it. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 00:19:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j495IuWm008360 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 00:18:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 00:19:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628184@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 1:18:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 01:18:55 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j495Iriv024487 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 01:18:54 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101172217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 08 May 2005 22:18:53 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508221910.0277cce0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 22:19:22 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Don't lock it! At 04:33 PM 5/8/2005, you wrote: >Times change. I have never locked a suitcase when traveling, but I >finally bought a lockable suitcase for my trip to Barcelona. It is a 21" >Eddie Bauer carryon that I plan to live out of for 10 days. It's a really >nice one - expands a bit - and was priced below retail at Tarzhay today. >I will need a briefcase-type bag also, preferably one that also locks. I >bought 2 small locks today - I think I will be able to use a bag I already >own. I also now own a moneybag - my first - and my TravelSmith waist bag >should arrive this week. > >I am not doing all this because I will be carrying valuables - but I >prefer not to lose all my clothing and academic stuff on the way over or >at the airport. > >Now I have a few more papers to grade and two sets of grades to complete. > >Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 00:30:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j495UaWm009722 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 00:30:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 00:30:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00628341@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 1:20:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 01:20:35 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j495KZJE024624 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 01:20:35 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 101172498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 08 May 2005 22:20:34 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508222055.02723b00@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 22:21:04 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: I {heart} my roof In-Reply-To: <427ECF87.1040503@maynor.net> References: <427ECF87.1040503@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:48 PM 5/8/2005, you wrote: >I just looked back at a picture of my house taken before it was mine and >compared it with a recent one -- and it made me realize how much I >{heart} my tin roof: > >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/before-after.html > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Looks great ! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 01:43:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j496gWWm017800 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 01:42:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 01:43:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628269@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 2:22:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 02:22:31 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j496MUrZ029195 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 02:22:30 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j496MTi0021323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:22:29 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j496MS9G021321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:22:28 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 08:22:28 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys Message-ID: <20050509062228.GA21266@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 03:21:18PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = On 5/8/05, steph wrote: = > = > On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 12:39:51PM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: = > = hehhhehhehehhehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheehehhehehhhhehehehhehe = > = = > = > ^-^ = = = I am totally rolling my eyes at both of you. = Thank you. Glad to be of service. = What do you do with someone who can't tell the difference between = architecture and implementationk, but is convinced that he understands = everything perfectly? = Ignore them as best as possible. http://www.fartmart.com/display.asp?sku=2&rP=searching,rqDesc@fart this is way better than a woopie cushion. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 04:45:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j499ioWm005538 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 04:44:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:45:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00628577@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 5:04:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:04:38 -0400 Received: from mxfep04.bredband.com (mxfep04.bredband.com [195.54.107.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4994ZJT010308 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:04:35 -0400 Received: from mxfep04 ([195.54.107.79] [195.54.107.79]) by mxfep04.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04>; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:04:34 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: , , , , , , , , , , , , , Subject: Taiwan Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:04:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For those who are interested, the Taiwan pictures are up on my photo site, http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/RayofSunshine/. They are in chapter 5. For those who aren't, ignore this e-mail. Enjoy! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 04:59:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j499xXWm007449 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 04:59:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:59:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5359C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 5:52:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:52:14 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j499qEjg025068 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:52:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F535E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 5:52:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200505090952.j499qEjg025068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 05:52:13 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 7 May 2005 07:34:12 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>Off to the woods to hide out from work and write my paper. >>Wish me luck! >> >>http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/Leetonia/Leetonia.htm >> >> >Good luck! I just read the description and must say that I found the >place pretty dreadful sounding. > Sorry to hear that. We find it heaven on earth. The quiet and surrounding beauty, the comfort of a fire in the cookstove, and a stack of books. Who could ask for more? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 04:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j499xXWm007450 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 04:59:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:59:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F535F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 5:56:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:56:46 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j499ugvF026875 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:56:42 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F535B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 5:56:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200505090956.j499ugvF026875@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 05:56:42 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Cat toys To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 7 May 2005 07:36:06 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >Burl never needed a cat toy. This cat needs SOMETHING, and judging by the >way he goes after my yarn and every bug in my house, I'm thinking a toy is >the way to go. Suggestions? Stroll through the cat toy section and see what the range is, then get or make a variety that will amuse the cat in different ways - the laswer pointer thing is great for stalking like a bug, as are flies-on-a-string; mice on strings can be pulled around on the floor, balls with bells or small toys can be batted around by the cat w/out you doing anything. One of our favorites is a round plastic try w/ a ping-pong ball caught inside the rim - hours of fun for the cat, like trying to paw a goldfish from a bowl. (The ball slides around the rim, but can't come out) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 04:59:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j499xXWm007446 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 04:59:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:59:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F535FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 5:58:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:58:29 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j499wQKt027333 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:58:26 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F535C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 5:58:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200505090958.j499wQKt027333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 05:58:26 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Cat toys To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 7 May 2005 16:12:06 +0200, steph wrote: >On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 07:36:06AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >= Burl never needed a cat toy. This cat needs SOMETHING, and judging by the >= way he goes after my yarn and every bug in my house, I'm thinking a toy is > Forgot one: empty bags, boxes, and laundry baskets. Leave 'em around and let the cat explore the interiors. Whee! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 04:59:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j499xXWm007445 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 04:59:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:59:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5355E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 5:49:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:49:32 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j499nSMG023881 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:49:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F535AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 5:49:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200505090949.j499nSMG023881@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 05:49:27 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 7 May 2005 07:30:31 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/7/05, steph wrote: >> >> Eh, not particularly. Mine are almost a year old, and they're fairly >> kitten crazy still. Cheetah the cat next door is now almost two, and >> she's still fairly bouncy. My friend Vicki says boy cats get lethargic >> and sleepy and girl cats keep doing kitten things for years and years. > That may be partly the result of neutering. Both our cats (1 m, 1 f) are still frisky, but they do most of their chasing w/ each other now. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 06:04:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49B4CWm016716 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:04:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:04:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F535D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 7:04:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:48:49 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Amnrq031922 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:48:49 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19165892 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 03:48:50 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 03:48:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 04:48:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <84536554.20050509044833@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: **: 2.241000 Compare Rates=2.2 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 189, in=65154, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/6/2005, 6:46 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Hmmm. Do you mean they will charge that before any BKD> interest is due? I BKD> think I had better compare rates on my credit cards. In my experience, the credit card company won't know, because it'll be added by the foreign bank, and it'll depend on what foreign bank processes the transaction. You also probably won't notice it, since it'll be include in the conversion from Euros (or whatever) to dollars. You won't know what the rate was that day, and how good a rate they gave you, so you won't know if it was added or not, in most cases. BKD> I prefer to use the BKD> one that gets me World Points, but maybe I had BKD> better check out any BKD> European charge before I decide to use it instead of BKD> one of the other BKD> ones. I normally do no pay any interest. It isn't interest. It is a surcharge. BKD> Or maybe I had better decide to use all these Euros BKD> and Euro TCs instead BKD> of credit cards. Or - wait - my credit union ATM BKD> charge will be only $1.50 BKD> - that might be best. Well, that's all the CU will charge you, but how much will you be charged on the other end for the foreign ATM and for the conversion to local currency? I'd say just don't worry about it. Part of the cost of doing business. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wm005018 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062866E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:48:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:17:15 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49AHF2k028981 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:17:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.71.201]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509101657.YAIJ2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:16:57 -0400 Message-ID: <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 05:16:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> In-Reply-To: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >For those who are interested, the Taiwan pictures are up on my photo >site, http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/RayofSunshine/. They are >in chapter 5. For those who aren't, ignore this e-mail. > > Good pictures. I love the teddy bear. I also think your matching colors are neat -- was that intentional or coincidental -- like in these two: http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/~photos/tn/207_348.ts1114924940000.jpg http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/~photos/tn/254_348.ts1114993384000.jpg I also like the picture site, as I've said before -- like the way you can scroll through the enlarging quickly and easily. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wm005021 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006286A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:48:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:44:27 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49AiQwm031452 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:44:26 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18883560 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:00:36 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 03:44:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 04:44:00 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1391145902.20050509044400@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz In-Reply-To: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 191, in=66307, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/6/2005, 4:34 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> And it must have a grain of truth since my score NM> said this: >> 91% (Dixie). Is General Lee your father? And I got.... 60% (Dixie). Barely into the Dixie category. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wm005024 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006284C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:48:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:25:30 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49APQ80029703 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:25:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.71.201]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509102526.YBXY2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:25:26 -0400 Message-ID: <427F3A92.9000401@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 05:25:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? References: <200505090952.j499qEjg025068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505090952.j499qEjg025068@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Good luck! I just read the description and must say that I found the >>place pretty dreadful sounding. >> >> >Sorry to hear that. We find it heaven on earth. The quiet and surrounding >beauty, the comfort of a fire in the cookstove, and a stack of books. Who >could ask for more? > > Moi. I don't mind camping -- have done lots of it in my life. Iow, I like quiet and surrounding beauty and outdoor life. But this description sounds not like camping -- as in not like being out in the middle of nowhere alone or with your chosen companion(s) but instead being in a primitive communal arrangement. These were the parts that sounded unpleasant to me: ************** Our camp has running water (in the nearby stream), an outhouse, and other amenities of modern 19th century life, including a woodstove to heat the front room, a wood cookstove to cook and bake in, and zinc washtubs for dishes and laundry (and childrens' baths). ... Everyone pitches in to haul water, cook, do dishes, put things away, sweep, haul wood, and clean up. Be prepared to haul out some garbage. ... Sleeping Quarters: We have a sleeping loft with ancient beds and no privacy. People who are shy or object to snoring sometimes bring tents to pitch in the "lower 40 (feet)". Be prepared for lots of music and laughter late at night, if you decide to sleep in the camp. *************** http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/Leetonia/Leetonia.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wn005018 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062870A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:50:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:55:25 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49AtPxj032291 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:55:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19166210 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 03:55:30 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 03:55:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 04:55:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <989301356.20050509045513@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 189, in=65156, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/7/2005, 5:39 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> For this coming trip, I am to be reimbursed for all BKD> travel expenses - I BKD> wonder if that includes 3% ripoff charges? (But why BKD> should Spain pay for BKD> such ripoffs?) I will ask about whether I am to be BKD> reimbursed transaction BKD> fees. I still bet that the fees will be embedded, rather than itemized. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wn005021 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628675@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:50:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:59:27 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49AvpR9000317 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:59:18 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19183054 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:21:58 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 03:52:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 04:52:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <552224552.20050509045237@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Quiz In-Reply-To: References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> <007701c5528d$2e0c6dc0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <427BFBEF.70606@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=68145, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/7/2005, 2:35 AM, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: LK> My favorite example is the term for the space or LK> strip between the street LK> curb and the paralleling sidewalk. Here in Ann LK> Arbor, everyone knows this LK> is their "lawn extension" or "extension", as in "put LK> your garbage cans on LK> your extension". Just sixty miles away in East LK> Lansing, the word LK> "parkway" is equally well entrenched for the same LK> concept. I have heard LK> that other places use the word "treelawn" or LK> "greenway" or such. And in other places it is the "parking". and other names that aren't in my brain at this moment. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wm005023 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006286BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:49:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:46:07 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49AjvrE031726 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:45:57 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062851E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 6:45:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200505091045.j49AjvrE031726@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 06:00:58 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 7 May 2005 08:35:21 -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: >At 05:02 AM 5/7/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Off to the woods to hide out from work and write my paper. >>Wish me luck! >> >>http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/Leetonia/Leetonia.htm > >Good luck and don't wander off. > >Betty I was, sadly, too occupied to wander much. I got a lot of writing done, and enjoyed the hollow. There were bear droppings out by the creek, nice to know we're still on the route. Didn't get to climb the hills looking for Spring Beauty, my favorite flower. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wn005023 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628684@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:50:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:59:55 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49AxGGs000396 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:59:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19183263 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:28:02 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 03:58:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 04:58:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: convenience In-Reply-To: References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=68146, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/7/2005, 9:06 AM, bonniemaev wrote: b> It is my understanding that the best way to go b> during foreign travel is b> withdrawing the local currency from an ATM. That is b> what we have been doing. Indeed that is ideal as long as you pay your balance off completely each month. Otherwise you're paying the exorbitant interest rate on the cash advance....and they always credit payments to the lowest interest rate part first. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wo005018 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006287B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:52:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:27:56 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49BHtcu027237 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:17:55 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j49BHiFu025621 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:17:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 07:17:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: locks Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What do you all know (Karen, Betty) that the travel guide authors do not know? They say, "Lock your luggage. Lock your luggage. Lock your luggage." (That's verbatim from one) (And of course as I said, I am talking about carryon luggage.) Why should I not lock my suitsase, Betty? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wo005021 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628717@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:52:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:36:27 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49BQH6i029064 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:26:27 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j49BPqee031795 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:25:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 07:25:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: hat 3% Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: In my experience, the credit card company won't know, because it'll be added by the foreign bank, and it'll depend on what foreign bank processes the transaction. You also probably won't notice it, since it'll be include in the conversion from Euros (or whatever) to dollars. You won't know what the rate was that day, and how good a rate they gave you, so you won't know if it was added or not, in most cases. The situation as I understand it is that the new 3% will be added on top of anything a foreign bank charges for processing. Inn fact, my MBNA letter says that the charge is on top of anything else and that on my statements it will be listed separpately from transaction items - which, according to thie letter, will include purchase price plus the conversion costs. Last sentence: "This fee will be in addition to any other appiicable transaction fes." Cost of doing bsiness? I think I can manage around it. But things will be clearer once I see my June statement. Oh, but the letter also says that MBNA is now free to change billing dates, closing dates, due dates pretty much at will, so I don't know when I will actually see that. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wo005024 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006287CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:52:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:37:37 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49BbaVU030110 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:37:36 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18997002 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:40:17 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 04:37:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 05:37:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=78805, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/7/2005, 8:08 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I don't care NM> what my credit limit NM> is. That has no to me. It might if you were arrested in Istanbul and the bail was 20,000 bucks (which would be well over a billion lira). You'd be glad you had the high credit limit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wo005023 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628632@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:53:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:42:36 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Bga1M030380 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:42:36 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19168911 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:42:57 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 04:42:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 05:42:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <310375056.20050509054240@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 190, in=65162, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/8/2005, 10:43 AM, steph wrote: s> Translation: s> Fokke & Sukke (the ducks in the strip) s> look at the weblog of Carolien s> Fokke: s> You don't see that so often anymore: s> Sukke: s> ...a girl of 18 with a longhaired puss True enough. But not likely to be a cartoon topic in a US paper or magazine....other than skin mags. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wp005018 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062864F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:53:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:45:29 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49BjSVl030488 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:45:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19169051 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:45:51 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 04:45:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 05:45:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9410294212.20050509054534@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 190, in=65163, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/8/2005, 5:33 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Times change. I have never locked a suitcase when BKD> traveling, but I BKD> finally bought a lockable suitcase for my trip to BKD> Barcelona. Why? First, you can't lock it on the trip. Second, if it is expanable it is easly enough for a pocket knife to get into it should anyone want to. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:28:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wn005024 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062872F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:50:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:59:53 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49AwgjW000385 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:59:53 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18884015 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:11:21 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 03:54:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 04:54:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1272035693.20050509045444@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66308, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/7/2005, 5:39 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> That reminds me - when I called AAA to arrange to BKD> get Euros and Euro TCs, BKD> I was told that if I paid with a credit card, it BKD> would be charged as a BKD> cash advance. I did not check that out with a credit BKD> card company - just took cash instead. Of course it would be a cash advance....you're getting cash. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wp005021 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:28:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006287F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:55:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:02:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49C2QkF031494 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:02:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4036075nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.3 with SMTP id a3mr1041116nzc; Mon, 09 May 2005 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bmN5y80j1Hw84iohOujyG3pAto5McZLg2b/l66obNjzccTBH2qAIJdaD7urp1o+2zZAGmKphIag5ayAOlXkeZWn415tmbL2kKDiolIw8S8WvZkEh/HsF7HGYR7GZwnDY5ZQNIFZwZ9yJEZFHb+CaQFWP92GLH93YZFJOmgjm7uY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050905025935de47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 07:02:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <20050509062228.GA21266@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> <20050509062228.GA21266@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49DS2Wp005021 My kingdom for enough disposable income to buy this! On 5/9/05, steph wrote: > > On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 03:21:18PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = On 5/8/05, steph wrote: > = > > = > On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 12:39:51PM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > = > = hehhhehhehehhehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheehehhehehhhhehehehhehe > = > = > = > > = > ^-^ > = > = > = I am totally rolling my eyes at both of you. > = > Thank you. Glad to be of service. > > = What do you do with someone who can't tell the difference between > = architecture and implementationk, but is convinced that he understands > = everything perfectly? > = > > Ignore them as best as possible. > > http://www.fartmart.com/display.asp?sku=2&rP=searching,rqDesc@fart > > this is way better than a woopie cushion. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wp005024 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:29:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628808@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:55:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:03:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49C3p7a031606 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:03:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4036486nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 05:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr1031050nzu; Mon, 09 May 2005 05:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:03:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oHJt73SeJ1Z2TLQ5g2YMO2Itx9+67fxE4NiBJirHG0qazoT1BvrI96OyBl5n1Xc3lD/8quo527iA0i8W0gWjXXbhG/QVVSF5zMaEWoelA0qINzTpfyN1e0IY808Fpn4/gfTPKJRF3XBqR96MYMFt3nl1FaOTi+qy9F+l1kU8vtI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050509050320f4e536@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 07:03:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <200505090956.j499ugvF026875@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505090956.j499ugvF026875@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49DS2Wp005024 On 5/9/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > One of our favorites is a round plastic try w/ a ping-pong ball caught > inside the rim - hours of fun for the cat, like trying to paw a goldfish > from a bowl. (The ball slides around the rim, but can't come out) > Ah, that's what those are. We just played peek-a-boo. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wp005023 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:29:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006288BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:56:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:05:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49C55XC031729 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:05:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4036853nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 05:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr1037290nzb; Mon, 09 May 2005 05:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:05:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=prf2HgOz7uAJ2dOkECvY/YYoX5PnB0YB1LcJFIT0pT4HOPSJQCxgCIRpGaf3pCbp+dvgHf/MO0gD2iXkL+1QKQpkXI6ftsMxieEHvSJ4MLqA+szviV7jm5QuP63Pg3511ssJ7pdzZnCqzYYswcZpLNAoIrX/4Mpl7Z7zX7OjNcA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050905057d4839ea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 07:05:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <200505090958.j499wQKt027333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505090958.j499wQKt027333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49DS2Wp005023 On 5/9/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Forgot one: > empty bags, boxes, and laundry baskets. Leave 'em around and let the cat > explore the interiors. Whee! Oh, yes. We have already determined that Nanook fits perfectly into an Amazon.com box, for easy shipping to Paul when I get tired of him. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wq005018 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:29:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628966@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:00:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:37:44 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Cbi4C002108 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:37:44 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 90659843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:37:09 -0400 Message-ID: <427F5999.8040606@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 08:37:45 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I {heart} my roof References: <427ECF87.1040503@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <427ECF87.1040503@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I just looked back at a picture of my house taken before it was mine and > compared it with a recent one -- and it made me realize how much I > {heart} my tin roof: > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/before-after.html Nice improvements all around. The windows and door look great too. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wq005021 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:28:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:29:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628A46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:03:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 68292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:44:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Ciit9002961 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:44:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2029748wra for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 05:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.69 with SMTP id 69mr2541161wru; Mon, 09 May 2005 05:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.119.10 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 05:44:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IIW7/dlbdAWUta8EUks/0NkqecbAIv7uDTGZcg+n44+Zre5Qz+X8Fv/aE3yuSICiQq+36JlirRJK3CLY8Y/KFDUgKz6YJPHeGqMtIXzoNFWBaJRBOmhYExw+Nno01i2uGezbwvhdE2Y/lF6BDH3VZ7RTslfIZpUEJ19xPlRqt/E= Message-ID: <44dce1c105050905447bb07376@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 08:44:43 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz In-Reply-To: <427CCC49.7020404@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> <427CCC49.7020404@bc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j49Ciit9002962 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/7/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > > Not in my estimation. Born and raised and still living in > Massachusetts, I get this: > > 45% (Yankee). Barely into the Yankee category. > > Rita L. > Someone must be influencing you! I managed a 38% - definite yankee Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wq005024 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:29:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:29:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00628B3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:04:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:12:41 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49BCerP026011 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:12:41 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18885087 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:29:15 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 04:12:53 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 05:12:39 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <217913352.20050509051239@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SF Weather In-Reply-To: <427D2BBD.1020708@maynor.net> References: <427D2BBD.1020708@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66309, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/7/2005, 2:57 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I don't know what NM> "inland" means in this NM> context. Am I going to be inland? Not likely. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wq005023 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:29:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:29:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062898C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:04:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:14:48 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49BEm2d026687 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:14:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 18995160 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 04:14:41 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 04:12:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 05:11:50 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1148133508.20050509051150@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WBay.Com In-Reply-To: <001201c5533d$24efc150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <001201c5533d$24efc150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=78804, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And it gets 14 MPG? Does sound nice, but it is a Ford product... 5/7/2005, 1:44 PM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> Gene replaced our car recently and did not trade DM> our car in, so I have one in my garage for sale. DM> If you know anyone who would be interested, DM> it's a silver 99 Lincoln Towncar with chrome DM> trim, in pristine condition, performs beautifully, DM> priced to sell. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wr005018 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:29:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:29:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00628B58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:04:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 68571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:47:38 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Clc0O003364 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:47:38 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628491@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 8:47:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200505091247.j49Clc0O003364@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 06:09:17 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 7 May 2005 08:37:51 -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: >At 05:31 AM 5/7/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >>On 5/7/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> > >> > Off to the woods to hide out from work and write my paper. >> > Wish me luck! >> > >> > http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/Leetonia/Leetonia.htm >> > >> >>Luck! > >And follow the rules: > >Don't plug in the clock, >don't wash cast-iron frying pans in soapy water, and >don't meditate naked in full view of road. 2 out of 3 ain't bad! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wr005021 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:29:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:29:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628B10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:06:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:57:52 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Cvp6N006026 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:57:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19189617 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:25:44 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 05:56:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 06:56:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <17310129351.20050509065621@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: locks In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=68155, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We assumed you were discussing checked baggage, which you can no longer lock. For carryon, do whatever the heck you want. Personally, if it is carryon I can't imagine anyone getting into it without my knowledge (unless they steal the whole bag and run with it). 5/9/2005, 5:17 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> What do you all know (Karen, Betty) that the travel BKD> guide authors do not BKD> know? They say, "Lock your luggage. Lock your BKD> luggage. Lock your BKD> luggage." (That's verbatim from one) BKD> (And of course as I said, I am talking about carryon BKD> luggage.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wr005024 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:29:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:29:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628A29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:06:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:59:36 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49CxZ9V006406 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:59:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19002411 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:02:28 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 05:59:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 06:59:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=78826, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 5:25 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Last sentence: "This fee will be BKD> in addition to any BKD> other appiicable transaction fes." Haven't seen that on any of our cards, and I do read the fine print when they send it. But I may just be on a different billing cycle. But since we use AmEx for 98 percent of our charges, it isn't likely to be an issue. Use the Visa about once a month, and probably haven't used an MC in a couple years, though there's one in the wallet. BKD> Cost of doing bsiness? I think I can manage around BKD> it. But things will be BKD> clearer once I see my June statement. Oh, but the BKD> letter also says that BKD> MBNA is now free to change billing dates, closing BKD> dates, due dates pretty BKD> much at will, so I don't know when I will actually BKD> see that. Well, they've always been able to do whatever the heck they want, as long as they notify you. And they will. You are receiving a service, and they're free to charge whatever the heck they want for that service, and you can go elsewhere if you don't like it. Right? Sounds like free enterprise to me, whether we always like it or not. Yeah, I know Tushie will start flaming the above....have at it, dood. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:29:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DS2Wr005023 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:29:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:29:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628B1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:25:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:25:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49DPX1j011676 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:25:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:25:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 09:25:17 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: locks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Take a look at the TSA Air Travel tips page http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1254.xml or http://tinyurl.com/dv4kc It will tell you everything you need to know - rather than any or all of us expressing our opinions about what is or is not allowed. BrP >>> dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU 5/9/2005 7:17:47 AM >>> What do you all know (Karen, Betty) that the travel guide authors do not know? They say, "Lock your luggage. Lock your luggage. Lock your luggage." (That's verbatim from one) (And of course as I said, I am talking about carryon luggage.) Why should I not lock my suitsase, Betty? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:31:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DVIWm005561 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:31:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:31:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628B3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:31:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 73092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:31:18 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49DVHAB012932 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:31:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1120879wri for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.73.2 with SMTP id v2mr2644668wra; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:31:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Mw86RtmWAL4zmyonqYS46CeL2+OQBkulNq9AIBULbG7EyAMSO9B5OGW4uYzAOotBFJaq8RUpHcLSH2AYM3wX5qcPgGtYTmh+LiXDFGjUT9vl5KU13HAFDRVnPHlm4C9yVUHdYCCMTWvzsHAQyZWv7gGDOFXySYhLltSHWpsUT/s= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:31:17 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz In-Reply-To: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49DVIWm005561 41% (Yankee). Barely into the Yankee category. I'm "barely a Yankee" ! Who'da thunk. I had several answers which were clearly regional -- i.e. "Mischief Night" and "hoagie" bue maybe I confused the system with my hybrid NY-Philadelphia answers. Of course I probably shoulda been pegged as Jersey. And I guess that's only about 41% Yankee? As compared to like a Rhode Islander or a Bostonite anyway... BTW, I actually had no answer for the last one. So I chose roly-poly because it sounds vaguely familiar. Marie On 5/6/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Some of the info given is questionable, but this is nevertheless kind of > fun: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/yankee_dixie_quiz.html > > And it must have a grain of truth since my score said this: > > > 91% (Dixie). Is General Lee your father? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:34:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DYLWm005854 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:34:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:34:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00628D0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:34:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 73350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:34:21 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49DYK9c013408 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:34:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1122329wri for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.22.53 with SMTP id 53mr2647755wrv; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:34:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=n0AKDzbVnxWKFTqJBmHl03AMBiDaXk4186FDFGpWrZ2F7USLLcaYk9jR7BEimlSLRD344hZN3y9SNgWfVdpJv8CG4RHgrb4r2qs1bsRGlOo7SXBcTXxLn+CvuOmANdtrxFpnG0nW04w4yvCfVNO0xQjdAadgzWsB8Dk3ne/KSnE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:34:20 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49DYLWm005854 Oh, I see even our friends in Massachusetts are barely-Yankees. Marie On 5/9/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > 41% (Yankee). Barely into the Yankee category. > I'm "barely a Yankee" ! Who'da thunk. I had several answers which were > clearly regional -- i.e. "Mischief Night" and "hoagie" bue maybe I > confused the system with my hybrid NY-Philadelphia answers. Of course I > probably shoulda been pegged as Jersey. And I guess that's only about 41% > Yankee? As compared to like a Rhode Islander or a Bostonite anyway... > BTW, I actually had no answer for the last one. So I chose roly-poly > because it sounds vaguely familiar. > Marie > > On 5/6/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > Some of the info given is questionable, but this is nevertheless kind of > > fun: > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/yankee_dixie_quiz.html > > > > And it must have a grain of truth since my score said this: > > > > > 91% (Dixie). Is General Lee your father? > > > > -- > > -- Natalie ( natalie@maynor.net) > > > > > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:37:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DbMWm006379 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:37:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:37:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00628D16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:37:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 73502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:37:22 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49DbLNm014030 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:37:21 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 96856113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:37:33 -0400 Message-ID: <427F679C.4090504@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 09:37:32 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >Oh, I see even our friends in Massachusetts are barely-Yankees. > Marie > > > I'm guessing that my result was because I chose "potato bug" on the last question. Like you, I had no answer for that one but just chose something that sounded "familiar". The whole thing was fun but somewhat questionable, I think. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:39:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DdhWm006669 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:39:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:39:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628C7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:39:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 73851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:39:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Ddh9k014508 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:39:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1124782wri for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.66 with SMTP id x66mr2650711wrx; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:39:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SVOktME1i1C/0rMPwaKhzZ7+2T46CBPKLh5Yqi/KGITorEEN8DoFe270LcBmZvCL90bqv3KrTDLoefEgqZgrW48nAVmuEO3/SHl0M2FS+DSUm7XfIcyXA0MkHamGDS1HuU/qQ6T6mr9LRp6mWdXZ4m+u4Pd7GxZ+Rnf6i5/J/K8= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:39:42 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 In-Reply-To: <20050508195642.JYCA9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050508195642.JYCA9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49DdhWm006669 On 5/8/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > It is Monday and time to go to work. I'm going along to Zinwell, the > company Dan works together with, and so I gotta dress for success. I > had on a lime green suit with a magenta colored silk tank top, quite This is a dress for success color combination? > stares on the subway. It isn't often that they see a giant Western woman > with an enormous ass. :-) LOL! -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:43:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DhEWm007284 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:43:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:43:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628BB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:43:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 74128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:43:14 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49DhEZs015173 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:43:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 18896215 for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:59:57 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 9 May 2005 06:43:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 07:43:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <127221715.20050509074319@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Taipei, day 1 In-Reply-To: References: <20050508195642.JYCA9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66353, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 7:39 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: MM> I >> had on a lime green suit with a magenta colored >> silk tank top, quite MM> This is a dress for success color combination? Hey, Marie, that's exactly what I thought. Sounded ghastly to me. But being a guy and not a fashion maven, WTF do I know? Thanks for confirming that on this topic, at least, I wasn't totally out to lunch. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 08:45:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49DjTWm007624 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:45:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:45:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628BB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:45:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 74215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:45:29 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49DjSXL015446 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:45:29 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1127743wri for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.18 with SMTP id e18mr23624wre; Mon, 09 May 2005 06:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 06:45:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=H1uY48uN+3ZG9cEGTCvdBHH5OHuS4d3N/k6qBaztDMOla8xBBx6bEp4/0dvvOI/fLc7Iw535kv6iuI0nk51JZ5EXzqUyYQrEs7RhctFAtQNtV4CoqbO7coBPSDg4HTggX1H51gMMm6w9gWTF+rfY8Os26IrqGgHf3/Rqa4EpbNY= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:45:28 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan In-Reply-To: <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49DjTWm007624 Hey! The lime green and magenta doesn't look so bad after all! Is that a Heinz ketchup t-shirt you are wearing in the Doorag darlin' shot? (you look purty, btw) http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/RayofSunshine/Chapter5/Doorag_darlin_.html And your ass doesn't look that huge! Marie On 5/9/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Marcia Franzen wrote: > > >For those who are interested, the Taiwan pictures are up on my photo > >site, http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/RayofSunshine/. They are > >in chapter 5. For those who aren't, ignore this e-mail. > > > > > Good pictures. I love the teddy bear. I also think your matching > colors are neat -- was that intentional or coincidental -- like in these > two: > http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/~photos/tn/207_348.ts1114924940000.jpg > http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/~photos/tn/254_348.ts1114993384000.jpg > > I also like the picture site, as I've said before -- like the way you > can scroll through the enlarging quickly and easily. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:03:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49E3KWm010521 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:03:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:03:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628BD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:53:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 74621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:53:20 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49DrKNA016620 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:53:20 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F53837@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 9:53:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200505091353.j49DrKNA016620@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:53:19 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 9 May 2005 05:25:22 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>>Good luck! I just read the description and must say that I found the >>>place pretty dreadful sounding. >>> >>> >>Sorry to hear that. We find it heaven on earth. The quiet and surrounding >>beauty, the comfort of a fire in the cookstove, and a stack of books. Who >>could ask for more? >> >> >Moi. I don't mind camping -- have done lots of it in my life. Iow, I >like quiet and surrounding beauty and outdoor life. But this >description sounds not like camping -- as in not like being out in the >middle of nowhere alone or with your chosen companion(s) but instead >being in a primitive communal arrangement. These were the parts that >sounded unpleasant to me: > >************** >Our camp has running water (in the nearby stream), an outhouse, and >other amenities of modern 19th century life, including a woodstove to >heat the front room, a wood cookstove to cook and bake in, and zinc >washtubs for dishes and laundry (and childrens' baths). Since it's a ghost town and we have one of the few remaining buildings, that's a factual description of what it would be like to live in the camp. Since it's surrounded by 40k acres of woods, with only a few dirt roads, there are not many vehicles or visitors. Most of visitors are old friends, who come on two weekends - Memorial Day and Labor Day - for a gathering that's a lot like a wordsler fest. Cooking, eating, and cleanup is communal, and you can often find someone playing music on the porch. Most of our visitors, however, pitch tents along the stream at the back of the property, and go hiking, biking, swimming, (occasionally fishing), or just hang out in the woods in between meals. It's pretty rare for people other than our family to sleep in the camp itself. And it's certainly not required! clo >... >Everyone pitches in to haul water, cook, do dishes, put things away, >sweep, haul wood, and clean up. Be prepared to haul out some garbage. >... >Sleeping Quarters: We have a sleeping loft with ancient beds and no >privacy. People who are shy or object to snoring sometimes bring tents >to pitch in the "lower 40 (feet)". Be prepared for lots of music and >laughter late at night, if you decide to sleep in the camp. >*************** > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:04:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49E41Wm010639 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:04:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:04:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00628DEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:04:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:03:56 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49E3ugE018226 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:03:56 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1136989wri for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.73.2 with SMTP id v2mr2660132wra; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:03:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YgmnRcz74zCrEbboMJwpdy+FkWGqPc/sk5NJUYWU7VPa4wMtRUgtRsf4gAMUj4G19bGukZBfTPH3u55d1pJPrG4WURL4CN/KkoOFLSw78UQJMPIqx/asGxZeXjnPGoxhgCdxGvrnH2oSp5abJvYezdLejhDQch/XMC1KWptqPKo= Message-ID: <83db447a05050907035a5611c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 16:03:56 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050816511a187720@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050816511a187720@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49E41Wm010639 On 5/9/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 5/8/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > > Times change. I have never locked a suitcase when traveling, but I > > finally bought a lockable suitcase for my trip to Barcelona. > > Don't forget that you can't lock it on the plane--they'll break the lock. > > They now sell locks almost everywhere that TSA can open if they wish > (without breaking the lock) and re-lock when they are done. We have several > such and used them on this trip. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:04:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49E4WWm010723 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:04:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:04:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F538E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:04:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:04:32 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49E4V7W018305 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:04:31 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1174855wra for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.69.3 with SMTP id r3mr2659214wra; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:04:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NDgFNSBQ7lfdmtjbhLDWNbBBEUD9N62AZ9gri1sAUbufq4EDwGP1UJtFs6zNx0AxqoY8byx8bbmqVdmMuA7mvL8UsVeSLfDWRXqLlznUIygrmguGzAmM8b8UKSnYTj2WGLFdL6UV1hNMyosBeGAXeWPWmFnXesLuJdM+I3bzvGg= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:04:31 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Last full day onboard In-Reply-To: <427E555A.5060703@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427E555A.5060703@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49E4WWm010723 For me they appear in the "Comments To:" line. Marie On 5/8/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Betty F Clark wrote: > > > Bonnie, do you realize that you keep giving us all your friend's > > addresses > > on these e-mails? > > Why don't I see them? The only "to" line I ever see in list mail is the > words-l address. I never see cc's or other to's. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:06:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49E6eWm010990 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:06:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:06:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628C7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:06:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:06:39 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49E6drp018793 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:06:39 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2057470wra for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.156.15 with SMTP id d15mr2583518wre; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:06:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eo7DbwmexNCpMzr/noGx9W7gUuEGsKkZoHVR9kzDHbFtAKqwLPVcjeM209dls5Jrbz0LVoykvTQOPd+e7u5Od2HYok4a0vcB0AsI2cw05nhZIhyTpdkw2YIO3/YX7akLQxAFPR7XGQkBX0aMPz/59tquzLBKj5/18+lu5WxPZ9o= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 16:06:39 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Last full day onboard In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49E6eWm010990 > > Bonnie, do you realize that you keep giving us all your friend's addresses > on these e-mails? > Yeah, I realized that with the last one. Give it your best shot. Although don't hurt Rose Ann and Tess/Loretta. They are ex-nuns. The Inns all have potent spam filters. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:08:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49E8IWm011249 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:08:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:08:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628D8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:08:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:08:17 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49E8HXI019135 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:08:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2058104wra for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.154.14 with SMTP id b14mr2586478wre; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:08:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MsT2YEZwf5BFE9k+n4WaMKUlhShMdmuY3E/LUN28lKmtM4UZyc7X8hxVHrWDznfGZyLdXdhpU6qqGtWa+2qymUrbCmo9qy7mjlimjSTeGYO8WPlkZOlnyNm4Ysrb4r60spcZZI3VaY23Wiv3Uvh3v0u9vFhH9lb0uvmsfhCWld4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 16:08:17 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Last full day onboard In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508100511.02f2e7d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050508165046.GB17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050508100511.02f2e7d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49E8IWm011249 > > He was the first one I worried about, too. I figured we could all > apologize to April again. --Betty > April probably has forgotten. She has gone through a whole crop of weird tourists since that summer. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:09:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49E9oWm011493 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:09:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:09:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628C8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:09:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:09:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49E9n1i019332 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:09:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4090242nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.10 with SMTP id k10mr1080372nzk; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:09:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VBDUwjR4pnapnyP6y/JToqK9S/y4Xgu0NQOcyAH7aQjkBzey2uUdDqPFkMerCxM3Z264/n+cI9JF4MFBP5YiGBbzTBHqnBoejb2yBwz2Wpvl3s3PYfSg9f5dpCpxpCI1BpgrbnOxbS5u0T+B1A5MAKDbsqFu3/27krieJJ1mfbk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050509070958dd8dc5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:09:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: <83db447a05050907035a5611c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050816511a187720@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05050907035a5611c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49E9oWm011493 On 5/9/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > On 5/9/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > On 5/8/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > > > > Times change. I have never locked a suitcase when traveling, but I > > > finally bought a lockable suitcase for my trip to Barcelona. > > > > Don't forget that you can't lock it on the plane--they'll break the > lock. > > > > They now sell locks almost everywhere that TSA can open if they wish > > (without breaking the lock) and re-lock when they are done. We have > several > > such and used them on this trip. I'm assuming that Clyde wrote the last paragraph. I've never seen nor heard of such locks, but they sound cool. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:29:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49ETYWm013786 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:29:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:29:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00628E89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:21:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 76866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:21:14 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49ELEIZ021057 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:21:14 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2062966wra for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr2586280wrd; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:21:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QrIfcqLDxMVRC0NFQEfVineA6NE8YxvhTcr/gagLjGjO6TgS3uTCDy3GYfT642kCgn1Plk6L7ixMxYLMGZdUE0PqftNqyItOk5LUluecnuydInW5Ce5QaQpcCnFBE4sA8nGobFSGhRpqaPwBz4K77lGJcWCLohiQJVaD47nIb0w= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 16:21:13 +0200 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050509070958dd8dc5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050816511a187720@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05050907035a5611c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050509070958dd8dc5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49ETYWm013786 > > I'm assuming that Clyde wrote the last paragraph. Yes. I've never seen nor heard of such locks, but they sound cool. > Karen > Our latest ones are from a travel catalog. They are flourescent yellow. Easy to identify your luggage. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:29:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49ETYWm013783 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:29:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:29:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628CCC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:20:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 76819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:20:42 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49EKgIj020950 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:20:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1180280wra for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.32.36 with SMTP id f36mr2670748wrf; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:20:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MoiBRSZRJ7zNBi+StjFbLOBP3a2XIAEUmGUtMY10Oqk8WnmYm0a0EhbeKqZ5eRYZCYu8F2Pnbm3y2eiI4z1F6NnCFE9FUFL+2PltHVMfwWruskNrXH7GlIylVskaxAdWykJl/95v/3O6ruZuUO1WV1hixBmKVWZggGfwsauHCpk= Message-ID: <83db447a05050907201144a016@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 16:20:41 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050509070958dd8dc5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050816511a187720@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05050907035a5611c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050509070958dd8dc5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49ETYWm013783 On 5/9/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > I'm assuming that Clyde wrote the last paragraph. > > I've never seen nor heard of such locks, but they sound cool. You lead an exceptionally sheltered life. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:29:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49ETYWm013785 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:29:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:29:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628DF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:27:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:27:41 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49ERegD021825 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:27:40 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DF777E822761 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:27:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004001c554a3$39c10280$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001201c5533d$24efc150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <1148133508.20050509051150@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: WBay.Com Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:27:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No. But it gets 23-24, which surprises some people. - D. M. > And it gets 14 MPG? > > Does sound nice, but it is a Ford product... > > 5/7/2005, 1:44 PM, Doris Markland wrote: > > DM> Gene replaced our car recently and did not trade > DM> our car in, so I have one in my garage for sale. > DM> If you know anyone who would be interested, > DM> it's a silver 99 Lincoln Towncar with chrome > DM> trim, in pristine condition, performs beautifully, > DM> priced to sell. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:29:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49ETYWm013780 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:29:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:29:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628DCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:19:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 76759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:19:34 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49EJXPq020839 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:19:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1179860wra for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.36.13 with SMTP id j13mr2662855wrj; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:19:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=FHB0OJCSuiKcXtXoFOO4pyHr30QPpK2fqPpmfDQufBr1YQ4Px4LjfLJrdMWfdfQ1g8n+u43tstv7X1ddEMe+R1NygJ0v0JVCO3yX2APG+mT9lI5jsiIV32wKMtG1FCaGOLUw7ptb0cIXnZM/SBvPrvVBbduDPHR/4p0+RKI97Gg= Message-ID: <83db447a050509071953a2425e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 16:19:32 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: wissinte@muohio.edu, wissinhd@muohio.edu, lrbrown4@bellsouth.net, tcombs@acadia.net, april@barharbormaine.org, roseannofga@yahoo.com, tessnalencz@yahoo.com, marialicew@att.net, amack@clis.com, kring@sover.net, danandlisa@earthlink.net Subject: Back on shore Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49ETYWm013780 We docked about 1400 after a lovely sail this morning from Floro. Yesterday afternoon was also very good. There were rainshowers in the distance, moving among the mountains. The showers changed from dark gray to almost silver when the declining sun hit them. Excellent light for photography. The dinner last night was a starter of sauteed scallops with a carrot puree, followed by roast duck breast with wild mushrooms. Very good. It has to very difficult to prepare roast duck breast for some 400 people, but they did a good job. Bonnie was on a bit of a losing streak---lamb the evening before, duck last night. She will make up for it tonight at Peppe's Pizza. The difference in Bergen over eleven days is dramatic. When we headed north, a few trees were showing a bit of green; the daffodils were blooming but the tulips were still just buds. We noticed on the way in from Floro (in fact, all the way south from about Trondheim) that the trees had begun to leaf out. The new-growth green really stood out against the rock faces and stands of spruce/pine. Here in Bergen, the tulips are in full bloom. Tomorrow morning we start the trek home. Today's sail among the small islands, in beautiful weather, was a great way to end the voyage. I'm ready to come home . Oh yes, Espen, it is sprinkling slightly in Bergen. Never thought I'd see it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 09:36:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49EabWm014878 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:36:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:36:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628D2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:36:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 78186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:36:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49EaaEs023306 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:36:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4105224nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.1 with SMTP id l1mr1094047nzl; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:36:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TIXYE0zq7t1me7s/3ro2TkjIqndZvmrI/zdK+eLFpnY1e2bAnmzs3cw9c81vBSnE2Q44Oi7apZNAH8MSeEEWISlco4TolV6jCctBdGhZ28kYhWgFyuCXF0WZhk/yC2qtAO8dq4KIMDprDPYvPuXd8bKuVLQmyObycPhMViIV7hU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050907365c460777@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:36:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: <83db447a05050907201144a016@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050816511a187720@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05050907035a5611c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050509070958dd8dc5@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05050907201144a016@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49EabWm014878 On 5/9/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > On 5/9/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > I'm assuming that Clyde wrote the last paragraph. > > > > I've never seen nor heard of such locks, but they sound cool. > > You lead an exceptionally sheltered life. Really? That's what lack of knowledge of suitcase locks means? Wow! I'd never locked a suitcase before, but my sister gave me a really cute lock one year--right before you weren't allowed to lock your suitcase. So I still have never locked a suitcase. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 10:08:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49F8OWm020306 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:08:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 10:08:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00628E47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:38:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 78415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:38:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49EcI4H023657 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:38:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4106046nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.4 with SMTP id h4mr1078978nzb; Mon, 09 May 2005 07:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 07:38:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hUt9qCELzxuLwpoqTH/ik2GOYRu60hGbrztNF7MxsHmRrgDH590MoLoTGh+FdVjdp0jmM+DIX2Y1Stp2BDnB7qJmzUCs2/8z/WhVd9ljI5cDUhISEN8m6gBLe6OByCZGaA1+DTFJWhIio4x+hp3LjtBGa3AlT9/Xou99DhTHaR8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050509073879ccfa4a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:38:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050816511a187720@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05050907035a5611c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050509070958dd8dc5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49F8OWm020306 On 5/9/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Our latest ones are from a travel catalog. They are flourescent yellow. > Easy > to identify your luggage. > I have Expedia.com luggage tags, which also make it easy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 10:11:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49FBMWm020592 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:11:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 10:11:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00628FD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:11:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 82092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:11:22 -0400 Received: from mxfep04.bredband.com (mxfep04.bredband.com [195.54.107.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49FBKX8030921 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:11:21 -0400 Received: from mxfep04 ([195.54.107.79] [195.54.107.79]) by mxfep04.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050509151120.IHDY10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:11:20 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:11:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050509151120.IHDY10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > 5/9/2005, 7:39 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > MM> I >>> had on a lime green suit with a magenta colored >>> silk tank top, quite > >> MM> This is a dress for success color combination? > > Hey, Marie, that's exactly what I thought. Sounded ghastly to me. But > being a guy and not a fashion maven, WTF do I know? Thanks for > confirming that on this topic, at least, I wasn't totally out to > lunch. Check out the picture. It isn't ghastly. It's sharp. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 10:21:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49FLEWm022055 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:21:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 10:21:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00629007@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:21:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 82782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:21:14 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49FLDPx032569 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:21:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4FC98681 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:21:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13834-10 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:21:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D779298675 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:21:11 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <427F7FE7.6080107@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 18:21:11 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> In-Reply-To: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.293 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >For those who are interested, the Taiwan pictures are up on my photo >site, http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/RayofSunshine/. They are >in chapter 5. For those who aren't, ignore this e-mail. > >Enjoy! > I did. Nice! I liked the little (or so it seemed, to be a little one) temple in Hell Valley. Now, writing this down, I wonder whether the name "Hell" is a local name in a local language. Or is it "hell" as "hell" in English? I also was hoping to find some pictures of you together with some of the people you compared to yourself as: you "could look down on the tops of their heads". Well, another place it was, but still... Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 10:31:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49FVSWm023515 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:31:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 10:31:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00629037@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:31:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 83384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:31:22 -0400 Received: from mxfep04.bredband.com (mxfep04.bredband.com [195.54.107.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49FVMrP001287 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:31:22 -0400 Received: from mxfep04 ([195.54.107.79] [195.54.107.79]) by mxfep04.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050509153118.ISJF10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:31:18 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:31:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050509153118.ISJF10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Good pictures. I love the teddy bear. I also think your matching > colors are neat -- was that intentional or coincidental -- like in > these two: >http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/~photos/tn/207_348.ts1114924940000.jpg >http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/~photos/tn/254_348.ts1114993384000.jpg > > I also like the picture site, as I've said before -- like the way you > can scroll through the enlarging quickly and easily. > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Unintentional. But then again, I picked out that color for him so subconsciously maybe intentional. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 10:37:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49FbWWm024264 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:37:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 10:37:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628EA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:37:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 84008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:37:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49FbV1W002388 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:37:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4139188nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.3 with SMTP id k3mr1121902nzk; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 08:37:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jmrIl7JyifW9KWsSdEu/RRavloMP1rlsIBUEf6XEqmGOmStm8QBOWwR08aZPl+6+Jxnvy1AHZWKThM3Y9toRHKNMieR9EI8glXlizG0Ss5vK6sMgF91MQKaZKnq+0w4T5bCXgWdGiYlOMbu7gqDjx+IW9A7vzlkbvFUmWSh7XXk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050908374666a501@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:37:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan In-Reply-To: <427F7FE7.6080107@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F7FE7.6080107@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49FbWWm024264 On 5/9/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > I did. Nice! I liked the little (or so it seemed, to be a little one) > temple in Hell Valley. Now, writing this down, I wonder whether the name > "Hell" is a local name in a local language. Or is it "hell" as "hell" in > English? My bet is Hell as in English. Hot springs in Japan are often associated with (Buddhist) hell. (Bubbling mud, steam that would sear the flesh off your bones, etc.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 10:55:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49FtGWm026423 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:55:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 10:55:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629009@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:55:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:55:16 -0400 Received: from mxfep04.bredband.com (mxfep04.bredband.com [195.54.107.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49FtFFR005110 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:55:16 -0400 Received: from mxfep04 ([195.54.107.79] [195.54.107.79]) by mxfep04.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050509155515.JEHD10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:55:15 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:55:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050509155515.JEHD10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hey! The lime green and magenta doesn't look so bad after all! > Is that a Heinz ketchup t-shirt you are wearing in the Doorag darlin' > shot? >(you look purty, btw) >http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/RayofSunshine/Chapter5/Doorag_darlin_.html > And your ass doesn't look that huge! > Marie Yup, that is my ketchup tee. It is getting pretty worn so next time I fly through Pittsburgh, I gotta pick up another one. (I didn't put the pictures on the web that made my tush look large!) Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 11:00:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49FxfWm027192 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:59:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 10:59:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629020@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:59:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:59:41 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Fxe7J006107 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:59:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAA1985D2 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:59:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19303-01 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:59:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EDA97768 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:59:39 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <427F88E9.5040403@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 18:59:37 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F7FE7.6080107@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705050908374666a501@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050908374666a501@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.294 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >>temple in Hell Valley. Now, writing this down, I wonder whether the name >>"Hell" is a local name in a local language. Or is it "hell" as "hell" in >>English? >> >> > > >My bet is Hell as in English. Hot springs in Japan are often associated with >(Buddhist) hell. (Bubbling mud, steam that would sear the flesh off your >bones, etc.) > No wonder then that one may think in such a place that it's high time, if not too late, to go to a temple. Poor souls! Yes, yes, I know, or guess at least, there's no notion of soul comparable to the western 'soul'. And I do not think Marcia visited it because of any feeling as if she was in a hell, or doomed to be :-) Kristin > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 11:22:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49GLfWm030646 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:21:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:22:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629087@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:12:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 86834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:12:03 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49GC3hN008624 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:12:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81BC986F0 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:12:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20443-04 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:12:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28709985D2 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:12:02 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <427F8BCD.4080108@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 19:11:57 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan References: <20050509160202.JIAY10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> In-Reply-To: <20050509160202.JIAY10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.295 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >I think it is hell as in English. It was a hot spring that steamed and >literally boiled in certain spots. And quite sulfur-y. Blech! > Mmmm...! Never saw hot springs. I didn't know, or at least do not remember, about their being sulfury! >Johnson couldn't stop talking about how tall I was when we first met. >I did have on heels as well. Not everyone was tiny but they were all >skinny. I went into a North Face (hiking clothes) store in a mall and >the largest size in pants was M. Ha! Ha! > Even people of the average height here, or relatively short people as I am, tend to be taller, and certainly 'bigger' and sturdier than many Asians, and this can be said about really slender persons as well. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 11:22:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49GLfWm030641 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:21:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:22:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628F21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:01:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 84863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:01:41 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j49FpeCT004496 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:51:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 31450 invoked by uid 1003); 9 May 2005 15:51:37 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:51:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% Message-ID: <20050509155137.GA26562@words-l.org> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 06:59:40AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Well, they've always been able to do whatever the heck they want, as > long as they notify you. And they will. You are receiving a service, > and they're free to charge whatever the heck they want for that > service, and you can go elsewhere if you don't like it. Right? > Sounds like free enterprise to me, whether we always like it or not. > > Yeah, I know Tushie will start flaming the above....have at it, dood. What's to flame? I agree completely. The most I can say is there's no "fuck" in it anywhere. You should of said: they are a fucking BUSINESS! A fuckin BUSINESS can do whatever the fuck it wants. That's the definition of free enterprise. Anybody who whines at that is a FREEDOM HATER. Case closed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 11:22:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49GLfWm030647 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:21:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:22:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00628F8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:13:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:13:50 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49GDoOg008908 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:13:50 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 102099100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:13:49 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050509091333.00c2ed38@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 09:13:48 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 In-Reply-To: <20050509151120.IHDY10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:11 PM 5/9/2005 +0200, you wrote: > > 5/9/2005, 7:39 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > > MM> I > >>> had on a lime green suit with a magenta colored > >>> silk tank top, quite > > > >> MM> This is a dress for success color combination? > > > > Hey, Marie, that's exactly what I thought. Sounded ghastly to me. But > > being a guy and not a fashion maven, WTF do I know? Thanks for > > confirming that on this topic, at least, I wasn't totally out to > > lunch. > >Check out the picture. It isn't ghastly. It's sharp. > >Marcia I agree! Looking good. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 11:22:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49GLfWm030643 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:21:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:22:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006290DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:02:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 85752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:02:03 -0400 Received: from mxfep04.bredband.com (mxfep04.bredband.com [195.54.107.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49G22ne006821 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:02:03 -0400 Received: from mxfep04 ([195.54.107.79] [195.54.107.79]) by mxfep04.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050509160202.JIAY10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:02:02 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 18:02:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050509160202.JIAY10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I did. Nice! I liked the little (or so it seemed, to be a little one) > temple in Hell Valley. Now, writing this down, I wonder whether the > name "Hell" is a local name in a local language. Or is it "hell" > as "hell" in English? I think it is hell as in English. It was a hot spring that steamed and literally boiled in certain spots. And quite sulfur-y. Blech! > I also was hoping to find some pictures of you together with some of > the people you compared to yourself as: you "could look down on the > tops of their heads". Well, another place it was, but still... > > Kristin Johnson couldn't stop talking about how tall I was when we first met. I did have on heels as well. Not everyone was tiny but they were all skinny. I went into a North Face (hiking clothes) store in a mall and the largest size in pants was M. Ha! Ha! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 11:28:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49GSHWm031671 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:28:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:28:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629105@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:28:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 88535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:28:16 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49GSGK8011783 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:28:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCA89866A for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:28:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21978-06 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:28:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA9598752 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:24:44 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <427F8EC7.4050207@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 19:24:39 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050509091333.00c2ed38@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050509091333.00c2ed38@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.34 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> Marieber Meeber wrote: >> > >> > MM> I >> >>> had on a lime green suit with a magenta colored >> >>> silk tank top, quite >> > >> >> Check out the picture. It isn't ghastly. It's sharp. >> >> Marcia > > > I agree! Looking good. Yep! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 11:39:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49GdWWm000509 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:39:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:39:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062910A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:29:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 88604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:29:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49GTSmS011974 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:29:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4170606nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.16 with SMTP id h16mr1150654nzc; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:29:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ucoWPEVfyRdEYTXSWhTVm0Rk+N1umyLaME/5Xxo6PGDGXTf64wudnNdVxmUsT1B+Bn5VXAVBLR3Hj9UGmLTYxcILYHPmqtvhSQV7kE1mcjh7f2YwQ9OMte+NvO/PCugSuv9lJmlzhkjwHZmi2iTdTG+GgMkS0qwIPaSQDOthuyY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050909291a62fb33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:29:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan In-Reply-To: <427F8BCD.4080108@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509160202.JIAY10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F8BCD.4080108@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49GdWWm000509 On 5/9/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > Mmmm...! Never saw hot springs. I didn't know, or at least do not > remember, about their being sulfury! Some are, some aren't. I grew up near one in Michigan, but never went. I went to several in Japan that weren't smelly. Even people of the average height here, or relatively short people as I > am, tend to be taller, and certainly 'bigger' and sturdier than many > Asians, and this can be said about really slender persons as well. > One of my disappointments in Japan was that every adult, except for those over 70, was taller than I am. And most of the children... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 11:48:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49GmEWm001860 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:48:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:48:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00629070@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:48:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 89887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:48:13 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49GmCLf015152 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:48:13 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j49GmBXL027825 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:48:11 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505091648.j49GmBXL027825@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 18:48:11 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think Marcia looks great, too! By the way, I have a book coming out shortly: http://www.akpeters.com/product.asp?ProdCode=2388 The dedication of this book will make sense only to Wordslers! It echoes the very first posting I made about Marcia: For Marcia, still bright and beautiful, in her joy, in her despair. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 11:53:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49GrBWm002602 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:53:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:53:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062908F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:53:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 90302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:53:11 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Gr90n015904 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:53:10 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j49Gr8Nc024533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:53:08 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j49Gr8gH024531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:53:08 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 18:53:08 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys Message-ID: <20050509165308.GA24502@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200505090958.j499wQKt027333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200505090958.j499wQKt027333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Forgot one: = empty bags, boxes, and laundry baskets. Leave 'em around and let the cat = explore the interiors. Whee! = clo Eh, my girls like to pee in stuff like that. I have no idea how to stop them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 11:58:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49Gw1Wm003329 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:58:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:58:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006291F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:58:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 91257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:58:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Gw0fY016819 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:58:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4185912nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr1174201nzb; Mon, 09 May 2005 09:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 09:58:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OWDefs8qddKhYOi+zj24sK7esDACmP/sflVxLg6YMRAGs0QlAfdddKonYgWZV9bEZFilqqaJFG/ptRcdoi0thBXFGJh8VhAmpaw8Y6iWXFC5U8xrXY9eehQwU2KEfXKDehZIyZc37nWxpThymqOllBSKr8fw1x4cYyM7SeYXniY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050909586ac1c851@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:58:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <20050509165308.GA24502@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505090958.j499wQKt027333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050509165308.GA24502@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49Gw1Wm003329 On 5/9/05, steph wrote: > > = > = Forgot one: > = empty bags, boxes, and laundry baskets. Leave 'em around and let the cat > = explore the interiors. Whee! > = clo > > Eh, my girls like to pee in stuff like that. I have no idea how to stop > them. Burl did that occasionally. I went to look at the cat box this morning, and discovered that Nanook had put another box into the litterbox, which meant he could no longer get into it. I think that's what a lot of the meowing and anxiety this morning was about. I had the litter box inside another cardboard box, and he peed in that at least once. Ick. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 13:10:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49IAIWm013767 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 13:10:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 13:10:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F54163@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 13:40:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 94867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 13:40:16 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49HeFSo023361 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 13:40:16 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1256124wri for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 10:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.63 with SMTP id n63mr2555255wrn; Mon, 09 May 2005 10:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 10:40:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bqKxDB29bQ4Z7h24qnDC8AeSWUEvbbxciEcnMB11InwcoQSfkzO9A5osgy+PDdiZ5Dej9tZU9W79PiViInvY1VYIyQJfSVnh621aB1Io+kBfKnXXrXTgmsSvR2wMCCz8ropAUOgzYkbnj9hWXmpT57xNjUv0J6Oa9L4u/ctopBw= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:40:15 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan In-Reply-To: <20050509155515.JEHD10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509155515.JEHD10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49IAIWm013767 On 5/9/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > Yup, that is my ketchup tee. It is getting pretty worn so next time I > fly through Pittsburgh, I gotta pick up another one. http://www.pittsburghstore.com/pghstore/product.asp?dept_id=2150&pfid=2370 -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 13:25:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49IPWWm016112 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 13:25:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 13:25:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006294B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:14:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 98015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:14:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49IEPE3028421 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:14:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4223448nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.20 with SMTP id o20mr1227058nzo; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UHYEvnyMMLB5bGLecTvXoh5W00exCN2nWaJcDjs10bevZ0ZVr6TYH/8bhCGILuVRcRTseMDquBeggOt1M1hi2WX3bzV4rE0jCW82aoMn0D+lsVpdYYPNA8hVT1iY0K8fEhlNc8zrtnUTBbO6PJmN7XjZsBwVNZJWZEVyrGuA8aw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705050911142b9d6084@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:14:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <427FA5F5.3020802@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427FA5F5.3020802@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49IPWWm016112 I doubt that it's actually from ebay. This is like those spams about bank accounts you don't have. Karen On 5/9/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > ...has been bombing me with messages for a few days. Today they sent this: > > >You have added phoneseller@yahoo.com > as a new email address > for your eBay account. > > >If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with > your account, please contact eBay customer service at: > http://scgi.ebay.com/verify_id=ebay > > > I do not visit their page! Probably did once a year ago or so, just to > get to know what it was like. And I won't take the risk of following the > link in their message to me. > > I get spam messages rarely, and now this! (What might make me think > earlier that eBay was not the kind of sites which send spam?) > > Just wanted to whine about it a bit. Thanks for reading! > > Kristin > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 13:25:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49IPWWn016109 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 13:25:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 13:25:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062940C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:15:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 98119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:15:15 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49IFE94028611 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:15:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9C49786B for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:15:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01177-02 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:15:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B6998143 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:15:11 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 21:15:06 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.335 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >>...has been bombing me with messages for a few days. >>Today they sent this: >> >> >You have added phoneseller@yahoo.com >> > >It's not E-Bay, Kristin. It's a phony site. One >usually gets a screen telling him it IS a phony site. > Oh. Thanks. I wonder whether there is some connection with some spyware I've fought for two days (a file named f3PSSavr.scr), both independently and with help from others, a computer expert among them. But no: the first message from that phony site came last week, before Sunday, and the viral code/spyware was detected in the first hours of Sunday, soon after midnight. (I hope I got rid of it at last, but am not sure yet.) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 13:25:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49IPWWm016109 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 13:25:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 13:25:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006292A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:05:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 97071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:05:29 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49I5TQp027058 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:05:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D57598808 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:05:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00439-01 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:05:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C511A987B4 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:05:27 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <427FA5F5.3020802@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 21:03:33 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: eBay :-( X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.882 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ...has been bombing me with messages for a few days. Today they sent this: >You have added phoneseller@yahoo.com as a new email address for your eBay account. >If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with your account, please contact eBay customer service at: http://scgi.ebay.com/verify_id=ebay I do not visit their page! Probably did once a year ago or so, just to get to know what it was like. And I won't take the risk of following the link in their message to me. I get spam messages rarely, and now this! (What might make me think earlier that eBay was not the kind of sites which send spam?) Just wanted to whine about it a bit. Thanks for reading! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 13:25:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49IPWWm016111 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 13:25:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 13:25:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062947A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:07:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 97292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:07:49 -0400 Received: from web60716.mail.yahoo.com (web60716.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j49I7n4X027383 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:07:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 32857 invoked by uid 60001); 9 May 2005 18:07:48 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60716.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:07:48 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=hwV/bWgLdHFBTxqN2WAsuNyOM88LC3X65XmxEGHUmnV1LhTVOCM5LkLviDVDVH2u994gvzthOVV7uWTqMaiDrvpMez4BtelainP9Fr9ucBdLCXf3xnzO0MGn0irVB5inH0/sG1a/GuSKFP+hPAWLlNhMrDlOeEpd3c8/S6nw2rc= ; Message-ID: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:07:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: eBay :-( To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Kristin Sarv wrote: > ...has been bombing me with messages for a few days. > Today they sent this: > > >You have added phoneseller@yahoo.com > as a > new email address > for your eBay account. .html> . And I won't take the > risk of following the > link in their message to me. > > I get spam messages rarely, and now this! (What > might make me think > earlier that eBay was not the kind of sites which > send spam?) It's not E-Bay, Kristin. It's a phony site. One usually gets a screen telling him it IS a phony site. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 13:36:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49Ia0Wm017474 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 13:36:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 13:36:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006294F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:26:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:26:00 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49IPvK9030736 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:25:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBE498624 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:25:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02153-04 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:25:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB1698769 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:25:56 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <427FAB1F.7070006@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 21:25:35 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <427FA5F5.3020802@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705050911142b9d6084@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050911142b9d6084@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.336 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I doubt that it's actually from ebay. This is like those spams about bank >accounts you don't have. > >Karen > >Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >>...has been bombing me with messages for a few days. Today they sent this: >> Thank you, too, for this opinion, for it *is* a kind of relief. But now I'll rush home. Too bad I missed a longer TV news broadcast already -- wanted to see shots from Moscow's "Pobeda[Victory] 60"-events today, the faces, or, to be more exact, the expressions of Putin's guests, etc. But If I'm quick I won't miss the interview given by Bush yesterday or the day before, to a reporter from Estonian TV. Bye, Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 13:36:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49Ia0Wm017476 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 13:36:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 13:36:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629450@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:27:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:27:13 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49IRCd7030933 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:27:12 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1358637rne for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.82.67 with SMTP id f67mr853456rnb; Mon, 09 May 2005 11:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.51 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 11:27:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KyXxIvOWQ+d3+Rbi6vZxsFD0Pubn2EId4wNDuk+UP8AxkFcZnLoB6rynMt2vNS//+eKA4DtBsBhZtRpq9vtFYQ04jS6iH95A5jFH1x/BK8rA0Po4iV/nu1hDljPZUDhSSeTEZaHrzMoPqPC23KMeIPu1VG8HKN07v6lsps5G6Wc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:27:12 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j49IRDd7030934 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/9/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > I wonder whether there is some connection with some spyware I've fought > for two days (a file named f3PSSavr.scr), both independently and with > help from others, a computer expert among them. But no: the first > message from that phony site came last week, before Sunday, and the > viral code/spyware was detected in the first hours of Sunday, soon after > midnight. (I hope I got rid of it at last, but am not sure yet.) Almost certainly the spam has nothing to do with the spyware. I get several similar spams a day, mostly with some urgent warning that my eBay account is about to be cancelled unless I "update my information" on their (fake) site. Of course they want me to fill in my credit card numbers, bank account and PIN, and so on. These sites are mostly in China or Russia, though unusually yours above seems to in California. And probably because of that, it's gone already. I kept an eye on one in China that stayed up for over a month. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 14:06:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49J6SWm021624 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:06:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 14:06:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00629612@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:06:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 101588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:06:27 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j49IuQgB002646 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:56:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 76576 invoked by uid 1003); 9 May 2005 18:56:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:56:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan Message-ID: <20050509185626.GA72569@words-l.org> References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F7FE7.6080107@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705050908374666a501@mail.gmail.com> <427F88E9.5040403@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427F88E9.5040403@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 06:59:37PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > No wonder then that one may think in such a place that it's high time, > if not too late, to go to a temple. Poor souls! > > Yes, yes, I know, or guess at least, there's no notion of soul > comparable to the western 'soul'. Or perhasp, there is one but it is recognized as a notion. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 14:07:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49J7oWm021749 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:07:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 14:07:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062961A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:07:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 101716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:07:50 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j49IvmUG002830 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:57:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 78092 invoked by uid 1003); 9 May 2005 18:57:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:57:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 Message-ID: <20050509185748.GB72569@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050509091333.00c2ed38@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427F8EC7.4050207@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <427F8EC7.4050207@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 07:24:39PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Betty Clark wrote: > >>Marieber Meeber wrote: > >>> > >>> MM> I > >>>>> had on a lime green suit with a magenta colored > >>>>> silk tank top, quite > >>> > >> > >>Check out the picture. It isn't ghastly. It's sharp. > >> > >>Marcia > > > > > >I agree! Looking good. > > Yep! TMG! (too many grandmothers) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 14:16:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49JFuWm022804 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:15:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 14:16:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062948B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:15:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 103307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:15:55 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49JFpeG005387 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:15:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F545C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:15:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200505091915.j49JFpeG005387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 15:15:51 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 9 May 2005 18:48:11 +0200, Torkel Franzen wrote: >I think Marcia looks great, too! > >By the way, I have a book coming out shortly: > >http://www.akpeters.com/product.asp?ProdCode=2388 Terrific - now I know what to get my son for his b'day. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 14:33:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49JXfWm025037 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 14:33:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 14:33:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006296CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:33:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:33:40 -0400 Received: from mxfep03.bredband.com (mxfep03.bredband.com [195.54.107.76]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49JXci6008016 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:33:39 -0400 Received: from mxfep03 ([195.54.107.76] [195.54.107.76]) by mxfep03.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050509193337.KKAE7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:33:37 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 21:33:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050509193337.KKAE7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On 5/9/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > > > Yup, that is my ketchup tee. It is getting pretty worn so next time > I fly through Pittsburgh, I gotta pick up another one. > > >http://www.pittsburghstore.com/pghstore/product.aspdept_id=2150&pfid=2370 > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com Oooooh! Thanks, Marie!! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 17:06:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49M6eWm011881 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:06:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 17:06:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629A18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:06:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:06:39 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49M6dfR030064 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:06:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509220639.GJRY2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:06:39 -0400 Message-ID: <427FDEEB.9070807@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 17:06:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >b> It is my understanding that the best way to go >b> during foreign travel is >b> withdrawing the local currency from an ATM. That is >b> what we have been doing. > >Indeed that is ideal as long as you pay your balance off completely >each month. > > What balance? Using an ATM is just like writing a check -- the money comes straight out of your account at that moment (though obviously when it's an ATM other than one belonging to your bank there's some inter-bank shuffling involved, which means it doesn't vanish instantly from your account -- but then I think that's true for after-hours use of an ATM even at your own bank -- the point is simply that I've never heard of a "balance" in relation to using an ATM card). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 17:22:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49MM2Wm013833 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:22:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 17:22:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00629AED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:16:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:16:43 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49MGhqO030968 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:16:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509221643.GSRJ2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:16:43 -0400 Message-ID: <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 17:16:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I don't care >NM> what my credit limit >NM> is. That has no to me. > >It might if you were arrested in Istanbul and the bail was 20,000 >bucks (which would be well over a billion lira). You'd be glad you >had the high credit limit. > > (1) I don't plan to be arrested in Instanbul, (2) I doubt very much that the Instanbul police take credit cards, and (3) I rarely have as much as $20,000 in my checking account, so the bill-paying would bounce -- or whatever you call it if at the date Visa grabs the money from my checking account, the bill was higher than the checking account balance. I don't know what would happen in such a case, but my guess is that it would be . (I guess the wise thing may be to leave $100,000 or so in my checking account before going to Instanbul to be arrested. But there's still the question of whether they accept Visa. I could send e-mail to the Instanbul PD and inquire.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 17:22:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49MM2Wm013832 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:22:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 17:22:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00629AD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:12:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:12:01 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49MC1rD030553 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:12:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509221201.GOWX2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:12:01 -0400 Message-ID: <427FE02D.5000808@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 17:11:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: locks References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >(And of course as I said, I am talking about carryon luggage.) > > I didn't remember that you said you were talking about carry-on luggage. I thought you had bought a new suitcase to check. As I said earlier, the don't-lock rule obviously doesn't matter with carry-on luggage since you're there to unlock it when necessary. (But I can't imagine feeling the need to lock carry-on luggage, especially if my feet are flopped on top of it.) >Why should I not lock my suitsase, Betty? > > I feel sure that she, like all of us, thought you were talking about checked luggage. The reason not to lock it (unless you get some kind of special lock that I've read about that the security people all have keys to -- or something like that) is that there are signs all over the place in airports saying that if you lock checked baggage, it may have to be hacked into. Sometimes the guards will let you lock it after they have deemed it ok, but there's still the chance that some other guard will decide there's a reason to open it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 17:31:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49MVlWm015028 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:31:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 17:31:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F54CD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:31:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:31:46 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49MVkjJ032410 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:31:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509223146.HEOZ2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:31:46 -0400 Message-ID: <427FE4CE.2000108@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 17:31:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I {heart} my roof References: <427ECF87.1040503@maynor.net> <427F5999.8040606@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <427F5999.8040606@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >> http://www.maynor.net/Temp/before-after.html > > Nice improvements all around. The windows and door look great too. Thanks. I liked the way the old door looked in a way, but I did not like all that glass, meaning lack of privacy. And its handle fell off the day of closing on the house (an easy matter to have gotten repaired, of course). But mainly I wanted a door with a mail-slot, which I am very, very much enjoying having. It's great to find my mail piled on the floor, especially when returning from a trip. So all in all, I'm happy with the door change. (And the old door moved to Starkville, where it is to be on a house my real-estate agent and her husband are fixing up to sell.) And I am of course very happy with the windows also. It's wonderful to be able to open and close windows without separate storm windows to contend with (these are double-pained -- no outside storm windows). And they look mightily better than those old windows looked. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 17:35:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49MZDWm015542 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:35:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 17:35:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00629962@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:26:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:26:21 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49MQLqR031894 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:26:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509222621.HAAB2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:26:21 -0400 Message-ID: <427FE389.7080101@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 17:26:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> <20050509062228.GA21266@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050905025935de47@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050905025935de47@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >My kingdom for enough disposable income to buy this! > > I just learned that the French verb for fart is peter. I learned it because the friend I stayed with in Paris last year is there again right now for a couple of months (her second or third time to rent an apartment for shortish stays since the year-long stay last year), and she was telling me that along with the "no talking on cell phones" signs around the internet place she uses, she thinks they should add some "no farting" signs -- that there are some people who smell up the place frequently. I told her she should create the signs and put them up, so we were discussing whether they should be simple, like "defense de peter" or whether to make them parallel to the cell phone signs, which say something like "please turn off your cell phone" (en francais, of course). She suggested that "please turn off your sphincter" might work (en francais, of course). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 17:35:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49MZDWm015541 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:35:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 17:35:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00629959@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:25:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:25:12 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49MPCXX031724 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:25:12 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1412905rne for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 15:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.47 with SMTP id a47mr1120222rnb; Mon, 09 May 2005 15:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.51 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 15:25:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UsShkjRq9FHTkZRIiIQyb+zezlWrSQshA2Vc0Ps3jlybmSE8YAgRDQtwsyP6Jv8iCNfAleKAQEXZEMf3AEF2wZZKmcNKMQe+QV5xU6Hjcig+EwriXGQB5xnP2BOcUgjoeX69AQc2nfei+P0U0oNIM4ReebTo+ONbKExm1wjxV3g= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 18:25:12 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j49MPCXX031725 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/7/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > For this coming trip, I am to be reimbursed for all travel expenses - I > wonder if that includes 3% ripoff charges? (But why should Spain pay for > such ripoffs?) I will ask about whether I am to be reimbursed transaction > fees. There's a nifty calculator at http://www.xe.net/ccc/ that will help you figure out what you're really paying in bank charges on credit and debit card use in foreign countries. I had thought for ages that using a foreign ATM was the cheapest way to spend, but it turns out the charges were quite a bit higher than using a credit card (at least for travel in the UK last year). Of course you do need cash for some things, but charging even tiny items (e.g. a single London Underground ticket) to a CC worked out cheaper almost always. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 17:43:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49MhhWm016508 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:43:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 17:43:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629AB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:43:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:43:39 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Mhd51001020 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:43:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509224339.CFKM2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:43:39 -0400 Message-ID: <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 17:43:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >But since we use AmEx for 98 percent of our charges, it isn't likely >to be an issue. Use the Visa about once a month, and probably haven't >used an MC in a couple years, though there's one in the wallet. > > Why would AmEx be different? I thought it was sounding like a likely thing for all credit cards. (Why do you have more than one credit card, btw. That would be multiple entities to have to deal with if somebody stole your wallet, among other reasons I can think of for not wanting more than one. I use only Visa -- and use it for pretty much everything in my day-to-day life since it gives me ff miles. And I find it simpler to subtract only one bill's in my checkbook every month instead of multiple ones -- as in multiple credit cards -- obviously I subtract more than one bill -- I subtract gas, phone, electricity, water (which in Jackson is separate -- in Sville it was on the electric bill), and Visa. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 17:56:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49MuaWm017547 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:56:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 17:56:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629AEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:56:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:56:36 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49MkYrN001239 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:46:34 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j49MkUmp013920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:46:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 18:46:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: that calculator Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony: There's a nifty calculator at http://www.xe.net/ccc/ that will help you figure out what you're really paying in bank charges on credit and debit card use in foreign countries. Cool! I have saved the URL - Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 17:56:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49MuqWm017574 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:56:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 17:56:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00629BA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:56:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:56:52 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49MupPS002205 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:56:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509225651.HUHX2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:56:51 -0400 Message-ID: <427FEAAF.10606@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 17:56:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> <427F679C.4090504@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <427F679C.4090504@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > I'm guessing that my result was because I chose "potato bug" on the last > question. Like you, I had no answer for that one but just chose > something that sounded "familiar". My goodness. Roly-poly was probably the first bug name to enter my vocabulary. That's because they were bugs. Maybe I knew about flies and mosquitoes and fleas by that time, but maybe not. I do know that I remember roly-polies from a very early age. > The whole thing was fun but > somewhat questionable, I think. Highly questionable, imho. But I agree that it was fun. Reading about rolling made me smile at the house around the corner that got rolled a couple of weekends ago. They have teenaged children. (Rolling wasn't in in my teenaged years. It came along shortly thereafter. Thus I don't know the full -- like whether it's pariahs whose trees get rolled or whether it's an honor to be rolled or what.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 17:59:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49Mx6Wm017840 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:59:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 17:59:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629AF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:59:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:59:06 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49Mx5u6002526 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:59:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509225906.HVUS2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:59:06 -0400 Message-ID: <427FEB36.7000307@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 17:59:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? References: <200505091353.j49DrKNA016620@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505091353.j49DrKNA016620@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >It's pretty rare for people other than our family to sleep in the camp >itself. > Ah -- that's a whole nother scene from what that description sounded like. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 18:04:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49N3qWm018796 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:03:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 18:04:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F54D68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:03:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:03:51 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49N3pUE002922 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:03:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509230351.HZXM2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:03:51 -0400 Message-ID: <427FEC53.2010708@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 18:03:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 References: <200505091648.j49GmBXL027825@sm.luth.se> In-Reply-To: <200505091648.j49GmBXL027825@sm.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Torkel Franzen wrote: >By the way, I have a book coming out shortly: > >http://www.akpeters.com/product.asp?ProdCode=2388 > > Congratulations! Would somebody truly learn from your explanations? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 18:10:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49NAGWm019692 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:10:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 18:10:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006299F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:00:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:00:16 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49N0Gli002624 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:00:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509230016.HWQS2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:00:16 -0400 Message-ID: <427FEB7C.7010102@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 18:00:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Last full day onboard References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427E555A.5060703@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >For me they appear in the "Comments To:" line. > > I don't get a "Comments to" line in list mail. Even when I tell Mozilla "full headers," I see only Words-L given as recipient. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 18:10:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49NAGWm019696 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:10:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 18:10:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00629A09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:08:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:08:00 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49N80N9003287 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:08:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509230800.IDGI2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:08:00 -0400 Message-ID: <427FED4C.9040903@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 18:07:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys References: <200505090958.j499wQKt027333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050509165308.GA24502@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050909586ac1c851@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050909586ac1c851@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I met a gorgeous cat this morning -- an abandoned abyssinian rescued by the church friend I went to pick up at 7 a.m. to take to have her intestines scoped. A "driver" is required. I sat there in the waiting room with one of those little remote things like some restaurants have that start beeping and flashing when your food is ready. That was kind of neat. (When the remote does its thing, you're to go to a certain door and be led to where the patient is so that you can be told stuff that he/she might be too groggy to remember.) Anyway, that was a really nice cat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 18:10:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49NAGWm019695 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:10:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 18:10:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00629BB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:02:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:02:52 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49MqpvC001758 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:52:51 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j49MqlXX018617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:52:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 18:52:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: lockables Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: Why? First, you can't lock it on the trip. Second, if it is expanable it is easly enough for a pocket knife to get into it should anyone want to. Well, it turns out that I can lock it once I am through security. The primary reason I bought a lockable carryon is for security in the airport and beyond after I arrive. But I also might sleep on the flight, and I will not put a 21" under my feet. I did not go so far as to buy a self-repairing TravelSmith-type bag, but my Eddie Bauer is constructed in such a way that it will not be much easier to get a knife through the expanded area than through the unexpanded bag. It will take a few minutes of wrestling to get into the suitcase if it is locked if all one has is a knife. My other suitcases are flimsy little things that offer little protection. As I said, I have never before felt the need for a suitcase that locks. For Barcelona, I do. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 18:12:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49NCZWm019915 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:12:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 18:12:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F54DA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:12:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:12:24 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49NCN3Y003617 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:12:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050509231223.IISD2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:12:23 -0400 Message-ID: <427FEE53.8080204@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 18:12:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >I had thought for ages that using a foreign ATM was the cheapest way >to spend, but it turns out the charges were quite a bit higher than >using a credit card (at least for travel in the UK last year). Of > > I think we ascertained that my friend from Virginia who used an ATM in Tokyo to get her money paid slightly less in transaction fees than I paid by changing a wad of US dollars (cash) to yen at a bank. But I don't remember for sure. I had no occasion to use a credit card on that trip. Japan isn't nearly as much into credit cards as the US and Europe are. Cash is still the normal way to pay for things in Japan. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 18:33:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j49NXEWm021992 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:33:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 18:33:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629B79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:33:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:33:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j49NXD9D005125 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:33:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4349656nzp for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 16:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.3 with SMTP id a3mr1375901nzc; Mon, 09 May 2005 16:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 16:33:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XSDSpFEk9NCp6mYuDTEcyjKI5kQu2m9N4QkfsuwgO5tfIoaPaSj+eAQnX39eP5JDnbILKxA1r8uoUqo3qI7jvHf8Hw6DJ/FrMBF4ygpywBuTbzhvMGqb0wlxZJ1NYHepz1aaK8Z24lpggYWHf9uB/IN6pm2lTP715RJ5JEey45k= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505091633408604a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 18:33:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <427FED4C.9040903@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505090958.j499wQKt027333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050509165308.GA24502@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050909586ac1c851@mail.gmail.com> <427FED4C.9040903@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j49NXEWm021992 On 5/9/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Anyway, that was a really nice cat. > So is Nanook. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 20:51:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A1pAWm006161 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 20:51:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 20:51:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00629BA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:51:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:51:10 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A1fAYB014384 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:41:10 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4A1f4IQ026825 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:41:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 21:41:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: multiples Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: <(Why do you have more than one credit card, btw. That would be multiple entities to have to deal with if somebody stole your wallet, among other reasons I can think of for not wanting more than one.> There are several good reasons for having multiple cards. I have about five, one of which I used only once and will never use again - I accepted it in order to get a significant price reduction on an item. It is not necessary to carry all of them in one's wallet, of course. I normally carry two - things can occasionally go wrong on one account. I have one credit card solely because its use is allowing me to pay 0% interest on my 2nd mortgage as I work toward paying off the entire second mortgage by or about December. Sure, mortgage interest is deductible, but 0% beats 6.5% by such a wide margin that I am coming out ahead. I have one rarely-used card that has my lowest interest rate - 4.9%. Once in a great while, I get such a good price on an expensive item that it is worth paying 4.9% for a month or two to get the great price. But day in and day out I like WorldPoints - i can use them for FFMs or merchandise, trips, etc. So my WorldPoints MC card pays for most stuff for me - since I rarely pay interest, it does not matter that its rate is not the lowest. I have one Visa card, but seldom use it - though I will probably use it in Spain, since I have had no 3% message about it yet - it is issued by my credit union. I have come to prefer MC, though for many years I never used MC. (I used AMEXCO at one time, but had such a bad experience with them once that I cancelled and swore I would never use them again.) Different strokes, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 21:12:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A2BnWm009163 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:11:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 21:12:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00629C0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:11:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:11:48 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A2Blwx017213 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:11:48 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4A2BkXL007459 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 04:11:46 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505100211.j4A2BkXL007459@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 May 2005 18:03:47 CDT." <427FEC53.2010708@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 04:11:46 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Congratulations! Would somebody truly learn from your >explanations? Sure. It all depends on whether you have any interest in that sort of thing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 21:31:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A2ViWm011841 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:31:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 21:31:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00629C3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:31:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:31:44 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A2Vibn018620 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:31:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510023144.XUPF2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:31:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42801D0B.5040900@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 21:31:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: multiples References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I normally >carry two - things can occasionally go wrong on one account. > > What kind of things? I've never had anything go wrong with my Visa account (unless you count the card's being stolen by the gypsies in Paris -- but if I'd had two, both would've been stolen -- and the wonderful Visa people on the telephone were going to give me money if I needed it -- well, maybe not exactly GIVE it -- I bet there were some profitable strings attached to that offer -- but I did find them super, super nice and helpful, both the man I reached via the local Paris call and the woman he connected me with in wherever my bank is in the US). >Different strokes, etc. > > Yes. Thank you for the examples. I found them interesting, though I am of a different stroke. I would prefer to handle the situations you named in different ways rather than with multiple credit cards. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 21:33:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A2WuWm011931 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:32:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 21:33:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00629C41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:32:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:32:55 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A2WttN018698 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:32:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.164.157]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510023255.XVBQ2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:32:55 -0400 Message-ID: <42801D53.7020601@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 21:32:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 References: <200505100211.j4A2BkXL007459@sm.luth.se> In-Reply-To: <200505100211.j4A2BkXL007459@sm.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Torkel Franzen wrote: >>Congratulations! Would somebody truly learn from your >>explanations? >> >> > > Sure. It all depends on whether you have any interest in that sort of >thing. > > My interest is modest, to say the least, but I like reading books written by people I know. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 22:29:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A3TfWm019668 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:29:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 22:29:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00629F97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 9 May 2005 23:19:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 9 May 2005 23:19:40 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A3JdrL023052 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 23:19:40 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 83F5FBE8BF; Mon, 9 May 2005 20:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D35C2849 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 20:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 20:19:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 In-Reply-To: <200505091648.j49GmBXL027825@sm.luth.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > By the way, I have a book coming out shortly: > > http://www.akpeters.com/product.asp?ProdCode=2388 I'll buy it! Once, long years ago, for one tiny fraction of a minute, I thought I -got it- about Godel's theorem. It didn't last. Maybe I'll -get it- this time for maybe, hey maybe, maybe A DAY ! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 9 23:45:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A4jRWm029194 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 23:45:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 23:45:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F555BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 0:45:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:45:27 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A4jQDj029651 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:45:26 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA38BE8CB for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 21:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 21:45:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Cat toys Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 1:21 PM -0700 5/8/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: >What do you do with someone who can't tell the difference between >architecture and implementationk, but is convinced that he understands >everything perfectly? In my experience, all too often you call him "Boss". Ken Miller Bill Lumbergh School of Management From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 00:36:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A5a5Wm003773 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:36:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:36:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062A39B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 1:36:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 01:36:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A5Q379032246 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 01:26:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so2176424wra for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 22:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.39.76 with SMTP id m76mr281857wrm; Mon, 09 May 2005 22:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 22:26:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=eqgU9waa7WM6IfpSdBKf6n/F1a6vG4FSfuQ4vp2e/W09XhHIHl2XcKsSMEYDMU6sXB5upZkQdMaKPvCzJbuCACrIIfDT89Yhx1YMVa6W2Ro9Z4IdFae17m0PTrgrK0i0lbxVu3ga0CLDf9wtE44z7KXv243Rwsv2RPstENVpeqk= Message-ID: <46227195050509222659808e0c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 00:26:03 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4A5Q479032247 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU tap, tap, tap. Is this microphone on? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 01:12:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A6COWm009162 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 01:12:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 01:12:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F55764@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 2:12:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 142337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:12:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A6CMu2003934 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:12:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1487862wri for ; Mon, 09 May 2005 23:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.33.37 with SMTP id g37mr297185wrg; Mon, 09 May 2005 23:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2005 23:12:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=P06Nj3FvNdSF9x1Y3Kl1YQ4LzA7zVtZTGAH7wSmkteNBP3wGRWzwkjOwp1rX+BmKWbLNEB5QUZYE/GgHkJq5euWnDNyZMwfFW4jTqjXOC3tUUkhMGWire6e46jk1JjVWFTTtY44gEhlPPoZes+GwRxp/YkIKVn52xTnM7nQHnEw= Message-ID: <83db447a050509231265d10c70@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:12:22 +0200 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: security In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705050907365c460777@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050816511a187720@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05050907035a5611c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050509070958dd8dc5@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05050907201144a016@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705050907365c460777@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4A6COWm009162 On 5/9/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > Really? That's what lack of knowledge of suitcase locks means? Wow! That's one of the indicators, yes. Here at the hotel in Bergen, Microsoft is having a meeting/seminar. It probably is fitting that last evening, the internet-access computers were down. Another beautiful sunny day in Bergen. We'll head for the airport in about an hour. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:14:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7EZWm017613 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:14:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:14:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062A417@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:14:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:14:35 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7EY0M007955 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:14:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19016691 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:31:25 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:14:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:14:39 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1348374112.20050510011439@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Taiwan In-Reply-To: References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66934, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 7:45 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: MM> And your ass doesn't look that huge! Imagine it isn't meant that way, but sounds like damning by faint praise....It isn't THAT huge, just pretty huge. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:17:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7HSWm017996 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:17:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:17:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062A310@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:17:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:17:28 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7HRQX008230 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:17:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19124863 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:20:29 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:17:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:17:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <604890079.20050510011733@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: security In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050509070958dd8dc5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705050816511a187720@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05050907035a5611c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050509070958dd8dc5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 193, in=79426, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 8:09 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I've never seen nor heard of such locks, but they AFoA> sound cool. I've seen them for sale in various places, including airport gift shops. They're pretty pricey. They have some kind of "master key" capability that TSA are theoretically the only folks who have the key. Of course I ususally see them on some soft sided suitcase that could be opened with a razor blade in about three seconds. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:31:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7UmWm020107 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:30:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:31:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062A421@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:23:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:23:26 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7NCfQ008631 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:23:12 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19315305 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:52:54 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:23:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:23:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1129927004.20050510012318@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <427FA5F5.3020802@akad.ee> References: <427FA5F5.3020802@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=68770, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 12:03 PM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> I get spam messages rarely, and now this! (What KS> might make me think KS> earlier that eBay was not the kind of sites which KS> send spam?) Wasn't from ebay. Was someone phishing for your information. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:31:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7UmWm020108 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:30:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:31:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062A4CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:20:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:20:48 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7KlUl008479 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:20:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19298296 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:21:09 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:21:07 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:20:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <193182102.20050510012053@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <20050509155137.GA26562@words-l.org> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <20050509155137.GA26562@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.322000 Adult word fucking=0.7,Adult word fuck=0.7 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 190, in=65797, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 9:51 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> You should of said: they DMH> are a fucking DMH> BUSINESS! No, they're not a fucking business. That would be an escort service or whore house. DMH> A fuckin BUSINESS can do whatever the fuck DMH> it wants. As long as it is in most Nevada counties or a few other places...or the cops are paid off. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:35:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7ZAWm020766 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:35:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:35:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062A4D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:35:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:35:05 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7Z58S009221 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:35:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19298700 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:35:27 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:35:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:35:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <13510409364.20050510013511@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: convenience In-Reply-To: <427FDEEB.9070807@maynor.net> References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> <427FDEEB.9070807@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 190, in=65800, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 4:06 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> What balance? Using an ATM is just like writing a NM> check -- the money NM> comes straight out of your account at that moment NM> (though obviously when NM> it's an ATM other than one belonging to your bank NM> there's some NM> inter-bank shuffling involved, Since we were talking about credit cards, I assumed that we were talking about getting cash on your credit card, not out of your checking account. You're talking about a debit card, not a credit card. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:36:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7aNWm020917 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:36:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:36:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062A31E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:36:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:36:23 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7aMsU009294 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:36:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19315653 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 01:06:04 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:36:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:36:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=68772, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 4:16 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> (1) I don't plan to be arrested in Instanbul, (2) I NM> doubt very much that NM> the Instanbul police take credit cards, and (3) I NM> rarely have as much as NM> $20,000 in my checking account, so the bill-paying NM> would bounce Once again, we were discussing CREDIT cards, and you're talking about a DEBIT card. Big difference. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:48:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7m6Wm022449 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:48:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:48:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062A4DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:38:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:38:06 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7c5Vi009466 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:38:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19298790 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:38:27 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:38:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:38:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <38234497.20050510013811@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I {heart} my roof In-Reply-To: <427FE4CE.2000108@maynor.net> References: <427ECF87.1040503@maynor.net> <427F5999.8040606@bc.edu> <427FE4CE.2000108@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 190, in=65801, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 4:31 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> (these are NM> double-pained -- no NM> outside storm windows) Sounds like it would really hurt. Or maybe they're double paned? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:48:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7m6Wm022450 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:48:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:48:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062A434@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:44:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:44:30 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7iUr0009990 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:44:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19298973 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:44:52 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:44:50 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:44:36 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5310006545.20050510014436@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Last full day onboard In-Reply-To: <427FEB7C.7010102@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427E555A.5060703@maynor.net> <427FEB7C.7010102@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 190, in=65804, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 5:00 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I don't get a "Comments to" line in list mail. Even NM> when I tell Mozilla NM> "full headers," I see only Words-L given as NM> recipient. well, then Mozilla isn't giving you FULL headers. That line shows in TheBat! just fine. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:48:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7m6Wm022447 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:48:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:48:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062A323@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:40:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:40:39 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7ed8S009652 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:40:39 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19315794 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 01:10:21 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:41:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:40:45 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1494102361.20050510014045@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 188, in=68773, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 4:43 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Why would AmEx be different? I thought it was NM> sounding like a likely NM> thing for all credit cards. (Why do you have more Because AmEx is different on most things. NM> than one credit card, NM> btw. That would be multiple entities to have to NM> deal with if somebody NM> stole your wallet, among other reasons I can think NM> of for not wanting NM> more than one. As noted, do about 98 percent on Amex, and most months it is only bill. But there are some places that don't take Amex. So then normally use Visa. And the MC think maybe I used once in last two years. There were a couple places in Berlin that would take MC, but not Visa or Amex. And having been advised of some places in Europe that only took MC, we got one before trip there almost two years ago. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:48:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7mGWm022472 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:48:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:48:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062A32D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:48:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:48:15 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7mF6r010233 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:48:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19125693 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:51:17 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:48:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:48:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1053535325.20050510014821@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lockables In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 193, in=79431, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 4:52 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Well, it turns out that I can lock it once I am BKD> through security. yes, now that it is clear you were talking carryon, which it should be obvious by now was NOT clear to many of us. BKD> The BKD> primary reason I bought a lockable carryon is for BKD> security in the airport BKD> and beyond after I arrive. But I also might sleep on BKD> the flight, and I BKD> will not put a 21" under my feet. Well, I suppose if you were a VERY sound sleeper you might not know if someone was in the overhead luggage bin messing in your stuff....but I know I would know. And I never put ANYthing beneath my feet. BKD> As I said, I have never before felt the need for a BKD> suitcase that locks. BKD> For Barcelona, I do. We didn't for Barcelona two years ago, but maybe things have changed since then. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:48:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7m6Wm022445 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:48:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:48:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062A42A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:39:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:39:37 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7da4Y009560 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:39:37 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4A7dZXL013565 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:39:35 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505100739.j4A7dZXL013565@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 May 2005 18:03:47 CDT." <427FEC53.2010708@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:39:35 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Would somebody truly learn from your >explanations? I forgot to add that the introductory chapter is available for inspection: http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/introduction.pdf From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 02:51:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A7plWm022769 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:51:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 02:51:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F557F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 3:41:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:41:46 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A7fklC009715 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 03:41:46 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19017388 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 00:58:37 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 00:42:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:41:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66935, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/9/2005, 4:43 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I subtract gas, NM> phone, electricity, water NM> (which in Jackson is separate -- in Sville it was on NM> the electric bill), Our phone, satellite, broadband, and electricity all are directly charged to the Amex. So get lots of points, plus that many fewer to pay. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 04:08:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A98NWm000905 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 04:08:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 04:08:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062A3A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 5:08:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 145765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:08:22 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A98KjJ016664 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:08:20 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4A98JDg001731 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:08:19 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j4A98J1x001729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:08:19 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:08:19 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ? Message-ID: <20050510090819.GA1703@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <46227195050509222659808e0c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46227195050509222659808e0c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 12:26:03AM -0500, phil paxton wrote: = tap, tap, tap. = = Is this microphone on? We're all still here, more or less. Where have you been, what have you been doing, when's the last time you were here, where are you now, and how many eggslots does your refridgerator have? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 04:53:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A9rgWm011901 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 04:53:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 04:53:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062A448@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 5:49:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:49:34 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A9nXhW019275 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:49:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A7C97424 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:49:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13508-02 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:49:31 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F7E98C24 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:49:31 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42808388.1010603@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:48:56 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050509091333.00c2ed38@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427F8EC7.4050207@akad.ee> <20050509185748.GB72569@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050509185748.GB72569@words-l.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.319 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 07:24:39PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >>Betty Clark wrote: >> >> >>>>Marieber Meeber wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>MM> I >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>had on a lime green suit with a magenta colored >>>>>>>silk tank top, quite >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>Check out the picture. It isn't ghastly. It's sharp. >>>> >>>>Marcia >>>> >>>> >>>I agree! Looking good. >>> >>> >>Yep! >> >> > >TMG! > >(too many grandmothers) > LOL! You've got it. After years of the feeling of my disapproving and faultfinding too much it's fun to enter the era of approving and praising, sympathising and empathy. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 04:53:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A9rgWm011903 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 04:53:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 04:53:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062A537@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 5:43:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:43:41 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A9he2O018890 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:43:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CAE98BEB for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:43:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12103-05 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:43:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D174898BA1 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:43:38 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42808227.5030806@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:43:03 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 References: <200505100739.j4A7dZXL013565@sm.luth.se> In-Reply-To: <200505100739.j4A7dZXL013565@sm.luth.se> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.293 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Torkel Franzen wrote: >Natalie wrote >>Would somebody truly learn from your >>explanations? >> Didn't you read the short annotation at the site the link of which Torkel sent first? Well, I must admit, I cannot say what Gödel's theorem actually is. Looked it up yesterday in Wikipedia but I dare not say I know much more at the moment. > I forgot to add that the introductory chapter is available for >inspection: > >http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/introduction.pdf > Thanks. I'll read it later. What gives me confidence that I can manage with scientific texts of this kind is that I've read many (and even translated a few) during my years at the very monthly where I work. I'm not able to talk on scientific topics, yet usually I enjoy following the thread and also the feeling I can understand :) Congrats, Torkel! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 04:57:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4A9vBWm012366 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 04:57:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 04:57:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062A59B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 5:57:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:57:11 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4A9vAPq019987 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:57:10 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id B198398B1A for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:57:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15222-05 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:57:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92464982C0 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:57:08 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42808551.40107@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:56:33 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.338 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >I get >several similar spams a day, mostly with some urgent warning that my >eBay account is about to be cancelled unless I "update my information" >on their (fake) site. Of course they want me to fill in my credit card >numbers, bank account and PIN, and so on. > Reading this, I understand again that no warning is superfluous - thanks! Of course I know that one shouldn't reveal any security data, yet sometimes I may forget it, I'm afraid. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 05:18:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AAIeWm015081 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:18:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:18:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062A51E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 6:18:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:18:40 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AAIdcb021749 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:18:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074A798BB6 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:18:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19628-07 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:18:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19B898B78 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:18:37 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42808A5A.4020608@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:18:02 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? References: <200505091353.j49DrKNA016620@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505091353.j49DrKNA016620@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.339 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > a gathering that's a lot like a wordsler >fest. Cooking, eating, and cleanup is communal, and you can often find >someone playing music on the porch. Most of our visitors, however, >pitch tents along the stream at the back of the property, and go hiking, >biking, swimming, (occasionally fishing), or just hang out in the woods >in between meals. > Clo, maybe I've missed some of your messages about the camp, either last year or this, but I have a weird question: what is the *aim* of such a camp? Hmmp... this does sound weird for actually I do not think there should be any special aim other than just feel good in the wild, away from one's everyday routine, and do whatever one likes to do -- either finish one's work or hang out in the woods or meditate, though not the way it was forbidden in the rules, and, then be together with friends. Is there any other aim? (I do not know why I thought there was.) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 06:27:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ABROWm025181 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:27:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F55CBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 6:57:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:57:23 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AAvMXr024877 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:57:23 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4AAvKp3020462 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:57:21 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Sales pitch continued Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:57:20 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In case you haven't yet decided to order the book, this can only be because you haven't seen the cover. This is what Klaus Peters has in mind: http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/franzenCover.pdf The other book of mine that A K Peters offers (in the ASL series "Lecture notes in logic") I can't really recommend to wordslers. It's just for the fanatically interested. My Swedish logic book sold 21 copies last year...I must look elsewhere for billiyuns and billiyuns of monetary units. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 06:27:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ABROWn025181 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:27:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:27:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F55E82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 7:21:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:21:55 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ABLtH5019412 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:21:55 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 92633710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:21:05 -0400 Message-ID: <4280994F.6030302@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:21:51 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Last full day onboard References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427E555A.5060703@maynor.net> <427FEB7C.7010102@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <427FEB7C.7010102@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I don't get a "Comments to" line in list mail. Even when I tell Mozilla > "full headers," I see only Words-L given as recipient. > If you select "Message Source" from the "View" menu, you will probably see it. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 06:27:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ABROWo025181 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:27:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:27:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F55E59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 7:23:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:23:00 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ABN0bO019552 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:23:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510112300.QJWL2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:23:00 -0400 Message-ID: <4280998F.3050002@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:22:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ? References: <46227195050509222659808e0c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46227195050509222659808e0c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >tap, tap, tap. > >Is this microphone on? > > Hey, Phil! How's life? How are the animals? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 06:27:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ABRpWm025232 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:27:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:27:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F55F01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 7:27:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:27:51 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ABRpYc020143 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:27:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510112750.QQZT2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:27:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42809AB3.4090505@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:27:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> <427FDEEB.9070807@maynor.net> <13510409364.20050510013511@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <13510409364.20050510013511@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> What balance? Using an ATM is just like writing a >NM> check -- the money >NM> comes straight out of your account at that moment >NM> (though obviously when >NM> it's an ATM other than one belonging to your bank >NM> there's some >NM> inter-bank shuffling involved, > >Since we were talking about credit cards, I assumed that we were >talking about getting cash on your credit card, not out of your >checking account. You're talking about a debit card, not a credit >card. > > You edited out Bonnie's posting that I was replying to. She quite clearly said *ATM CARD*. There may be other kinds of ATM cards in the world, but the kind I'm familiar with take money from your bank account. There's no "bill" or "balance" involved in any way. If you were talking about using a credit card to get cash, then what you said about paying the bill when it comes to avoid paying interest isn't entirely accurate since the interest clicks in the minute you get cash with a credit card. It's different from using the card for purchases. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 06:32:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ABWBWm025789 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:32:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:32:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F55FB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 7:32:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:32:10 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ABWAqm020500 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:32:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510113210.QWZS2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:32:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:32:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> (1) I don't plan to be arrested in Instanbul, (2) I >NM> doubt very much that >NM> the Instanbul police take credit cards, and (3) I >NM> rarely have as much as >NM> $20,000 in my checking account, so the bill-paying >NM> would bounce > >Once again, we were discussing CREDIT cards, and you're talking about >a DEBIT card. Big difference. > > No, I was talking about CREDIT cards. I've never used a debit card, though I'm aware of their existence and how they work. You cut off the rest of my (3) above where I said I don't know what would happen if on the date my Visa bill is to be drafted, there wasn't enough money in my checking account to cover it. I also have never paid attention to the precise date the money vanishes from my checking account. So if the IPD accepted my credit card and I charged my $20,000 bail, it might well be that the bill-paying time would arrive before I had time to run put more money in the bank, especially if I got stuck in technicalities like whether somebody out on bail can leave the country. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 06:34:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ABYHWm025984 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:34:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:34:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062AAC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 7:34:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:34:17 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ABYGDV020717 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:34:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510113416.RADR2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:34:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42809C34.6020509@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:34:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 References: <200505100739.j4A7dZXL013565@sm.luth.se> In-Reply-To: <200505100739.j4A7dZXL013565@sm.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Torkel Franzen wrote: > I forgot to add that the introductory chapter is available for >inspection: > >http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/introduction.pdf > > I like it! I just glanced through a little bit of it but plan to return and read it all soon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:11:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACApWm031474 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:11:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062AC34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 7:51:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:51:17 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ABpHCo022140 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:51:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510115116.RZBP2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:51:16 -0400 Message-ID: <4280A030.1070405@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:51:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 References: <200505100739.j4A7dZXL013565@sm.luth.se> <42808227.5030806@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42808227.5030806@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Would somebody truly learn from your > >>> explanations? >>> > Didn't you read the short annotation at the site the link of which > Torkel sent first? Yes. That's why I asked the question -- whether the non-specialists referred to were truly non-specialists. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:11:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACApWm031477 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:11:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062ABC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:00:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:00:26 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AC0QsJ022979 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:00:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510120026.SNLN2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:00:26 -0400 Message-ID: <4280A256.7090702@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:00:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Last full day onboard References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050508091536.02671670@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427E555A.5060703@maynor.net> <427FEB7C.7010102@maynor.net> <4280994F.6030302@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4280994F.6030302@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >> I don't get a "Comments to" line in list mail. Even when I tell Mozilla >> "full headers," I see only Words-L given as recipient. > > If you select "Message Source" from the "View" menu, you will probably > see it. Aha! I'd never even noticed that choice on the "view" menu. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:11:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACApWm031472 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:11:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AA6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 7:49:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:49:57 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ABnvRC022017 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:49:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510114957.RXBH2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:49:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42809FE1.7060306@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:49:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lockables References: <1053535325.20050510014821@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1053535325.20050510014821@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >BKD> As I said, I have never before felt the need for a >BKD> suitcase that locks. >BKD> For Barcelona, I do. > >We didn't for Barcelona two years ago, but maybe things have changed >since then. > > I thought her point was that she was worried that her teaching materials might get stolen en route. I've never thought about the particular destination of a flight as having much to do with the safety of my possessions, especially since some of the passengers on a flight to a destination (e.g., Japan) might be changing planes there to go on to a destination (e.g., USA). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:11:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACApWm031471 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:11:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062ABD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 7:40:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:40:31 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ABeV43021192 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:40:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510114030.RJFQ2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:40:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:40:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I subtract gas, >NM> phone, electricity, water >NM> (which in Jackson is separate -- in Sville it was on >NM> the electric bill), > >Our phone, satellite, broadband, and electricity all are directly >charged to the Amex. So get lots of points, plus that many fewer to >pay. > > I have a fair number of things charged to my Visa bill (DSL, DirecTV, etc.), but the rest I have directly drafted from my bank account. One disadvantage of the charge-to-Visa method is that for reasons I don't understand you have to inform them of new expiration date when you get a new card. Since the card number doesn't change, it seems to me they'd not worry about the new expiration date. But I agree that it's easier to subtract just one figure instead of three or four. Right now my electricity and gas and water and phone (except DSL, which is a different bill and goes to Visa) are all direct bank-draft. What I would really, really hate would be having to go bank to the olden days of writing checks to pay bills. (I do get occasional odd bills that aren't set up for bank-draft -- things that don't come often. But only a very few. Insurance -- both house and car -- is the only thing that come to mind, in fact.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:11:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACApWm031476 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:11:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062ABB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 7:59:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:59:36 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ABxapI022906 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:59:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510115936.SMCV2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:59:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:59:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sales pitch continued References: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> In-Reply-To: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Torkel Franzen wrote: >In case you haven't yet decided to order the book, this can only be because >you haven't seen the cover. This is what Klaus Peters has in mind: > >http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/franzenCover.pdf > > Nice cover. >My Swedish logic book sold 21 copies last year...I must look elsewhere >for billiyuns and billiyuns of monetary units. > > I feel sorry for my uncle, who stupidly published a book with a vanity press, thinking he would make money. It's not the kind of vanity press that charges authors to publish their books -- iow, the venture didn't cost him anything. But it's the kind that publishes anything anybody submits and that does not do anything to promote the book. And, of course, knowledgeable book people recognize the publisher as what it is and thus in most cases wouldn't bother to buy the book, even if they could find it, which is another problem since it's one of these print-on-demand operations. The book is available from most of the online book stores but not in walk-in stores. It's a shame because I think the book is good, though part of that no doubt is from knowing the author. What made me think about it right now was not only what you said there about making billiyuns but also your url for the cover. In spite of its highly questionable ways, the publisher of my uncle's book (Publish America) did do a nice job of the cover, imho: http://www.publishamerica.com/bookstore/images/products/1413743277.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:11:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACApWn031474 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:11:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:11:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AAFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:10:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:10:49 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACAnKA024234 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:10:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510121049.WFPR2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:10:49 -0400 Message-ID: <4280A4C4.6050604@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:10:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Last Days Onboard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU BB: Have you told us when your actual last day of work is? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:19:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACJBWm032284 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:19:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:19:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5619A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:19:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:19:11 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACJBXN025261 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:19:11 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 97037427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:19:24 -0400 Message-ID: <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:19:10 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's sales pitch References: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > print-on-demand operations. The book is available from most of the > online book stores but not in walk-in stores. > > http://www.publishamerica.com/bookstore/images/products/1413743277.jpg > Very nice cover. I was captured by the fact that the book covers the entire span of my life and so I just ordered it from Amazon. I elected the "Super Saver" no shipping cost option and so I won't get the book for a couple of weeks. I can't wait to find out if it really is good or if you are just prejudiced. :-) Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:20:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACKYWm032584 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:20:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:20:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F56195@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:20:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:20:33 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACKXqH025413 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:20:33 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 92639245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:19:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4280A710.1020703@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:20:32 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's sales pitch References: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Very nice cover. I was captured by the fact that the book covers the > entire span of my life Uh, so far, that is :-) Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:43:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AChNWm002998 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:43:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:43:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062AE3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:43:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 164038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:43:23 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AChMCt028175 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:43:23 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19135746 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:46:27 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 05:43:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:43:23 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1506341151.20050510064323@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: convenience In-Reply-To: <42809AB3.4090505@maynor.net> References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> <427FDEEB.9070807@maynor.net> <13510409364.20050510013511@gailndan.com> <42809AB3.4090505@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 193, in=79464, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 5:27 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> If you NM> were talking about using a credit card to get cash, NM> then what you said NM> about paying the bill when it comes to avoid paying NM> interest isn't NM> entirely accurate since the interest clicks in the NM> minute you get cash NM> with a credit card. It's different from using the NM> card for purchases. Of course it is different. Any asshole knows that. But the point in paying it off each month is that if you don't, they'll credit your payment to the purchases first (the lower interest) and if you keep buying stuff it'll never pay off the cash loan. That's what gets a lot of people in even deeper trouble than they already are. And of course I'm not suggesting that anyone on this would be in credit card trouble. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:44:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACiYWm003167 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:44:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:44:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F56299@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:44:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 164161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:44:32 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACiVtV028305 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:44:32 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19309300 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:44:54 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 05:44:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:44:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 191, in=65830, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 5:32 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> No, I was talking about CREDIT cards. I've never NM> used a debit card, NM> though I'm aware of their existence and how they NM> work. If it is coming out of your checking account, it is a DEBIT card, even if it says Visa on it. Yes, the same card may be usable for either credit or debit. But if it comes from checking it is a DEBIT, not a CREDIT. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:46:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACjuWm003389 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:45:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:46:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062AEFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:45:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 164332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:45:56 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACjt3x028490 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:45:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510124555.XIEU2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:45:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4280ACFF.2090505@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:45:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's sales pitch References: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Very nice cover. I was captured by the fact that the book covers the > entire span of my life and so I just ordered it from Amazon. I elected > the "Super Saver" no shipping cost option and so I won't get the book > for a couple of weeks. I can't wait to find out if it really is good or > if you are just prejudiced. :-) Excellent! I also am looking forward to getting an objective pov on it. I certainly don't see it as a major likely to spiral into a Best Seller. And there are occasional places in it that made me wish I had edited it for him. (He didn't ask; I didn't volunteer. I don't mean that it's badly written overall. I can't even remember now what it was that made me think about the subject.) The book is over-priced, of course. That's apparently how PublishAmerica makes money. It publishes anything anybody sends, then over-charges for the book, hoping that friends and family of the author will buy enough copies to offset the cost and yield a profit. The cheapest place to order it is from the PublishAmerica website, where it's $19.95. But the shipping charge jacks it up to the $24.95 that places like Amazon and Barnes and Noble are charging for it, so if you get free shipping from one of those places, the price is the same. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:46:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACkJWm003448 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:46:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:46:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AD61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:46:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 164448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:46:19 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACkJpU028593 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:46:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510124619.XIVD2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:46:19 -0400 Message-ID: <4280AD16.1040804@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:46:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's sales pitch References: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> <4280A710.1020703@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4280A710.1020703@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >> entire span of my life > > > Uh, so far, that is :-) Whew! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:47:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACkuWm003521 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:46:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:47:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F562B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:46:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 164558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:46:55 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACkt5K028796 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:46:55 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19309438 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:47:17 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 05:47:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:47:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 191, in=65832, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 5:40 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But I agree NM> that it's easier to NM> subtract just one figure instead of three or four. NM> Right now my NM> electricity and gas and water and phone (except DSL, NM> which is a NM> different bill and goes to Visa) are all direct NM> bank-draft. Two reasons we have it go to credit card. We get lots of points for the charges. And we can use the float until the next payment is due. Also don't have to worry about keeping enough in the bank at some exact moment that the bill might come due, of unknown amount. And our gas, electricity, and water can all vary widely (by a factor of ten) depending on the time of year. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:50:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACoiWm004030 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:50:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:50:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062AECE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:50:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 164947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:50:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACoiMn029537 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:50:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1594055wri for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.36.66 with SMTP id j66mr493883wrj; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:50:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DHVhthfGE/957s1uuhMozWgI94W5arjBKITBaPj2fkXQ542usxmjCmN1PWcAjNTI0vgMpVj7UWE98JWWDMdiDVyEU9FUKz8COhv3k7hCsa7Lp2IB2llBimg71QjbIhJebx+sIQtDHN9pFtF8hnFAmpWK6S3l7/ftEyODYFS1pyA= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:50:43 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 In-Reply-To: <20050509185748.GB72569@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050509091333.00c2ed38@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427F8EC7.4050207@akad.ee> <20050509185748.GB72569@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4ACoiWm004030 It was sorta grandmotherly looking anyway. Definitely not a color combination I would wear. But it did look okay on Marcia, the dear thing. Marie On 5/9/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 07:24:39PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > Betty Clark wrote: > > >>Marieber Meeber wrote: > > >>> > > >>> MM> I > > >>>>> had on a lime green suit with a magenta colored > > >>>>> silk tank top, quite > > >>> > > >> > > >>Check out the picture. It isn't ghastly. It's sharp. > > >> > > >>Marcia > > > > > > > > >I agree! Looking good. > > > > Yep! > > TMG! > > (too many grandmothers) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:51:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACphWm004226 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:51:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:51:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062ADCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:51:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:42 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACpgFZ029712 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510125142.XRCR2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:51:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> No, I was talking about CREDIT cards. I've never >NM> used a debit card, >NM> though I'm aware of their existence and how they >NM> work. > >If it is coming out of your checking account, it is a >DEBIT card, even if it says Visa on it. Yes, the same card may be >usable for either credit or debit. But if it comes from checking it >is a DEBIT, not a CREDIT. > > I realize that you are an authority on most subjects, but you are NOT an authority on my financial life. My Visa card is *CREDIT CARD ONLY*. It is *NOT* a debit card. The money is paid from my checking account because that happens to be where I keep the money I use for everyday life, like paying the Visa bill. On a certain date each month, the Visa people grab the money from my checking account to pay for whatever I've charged during the previous month. It's called bank-draft. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 07:53:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ACr2Wm004402 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:53:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:53:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062AEEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:53:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:53:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACr1uj029984 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:53:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1594756wri for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.16.68 with SMTP id 68mr495813wrp; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:53:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GhGe1+DxqR2BD8kcVDEDIdlYXJZeA2pkB0aVTH+UvshiW/Zwv+U3tQKLdFrV0NR7ZDWB4u0didhJLR2K50nCAt1ro4Iyo3vcvieeojAT347R5n70LQdxMh9hEykpDyhwZHuUDYRX6H11mJp9RRXc2XyLDhctQ7j8oV52QhEDTic= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:53:01 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan In-Reply-To: <1348374112.20050510011439@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> <1348374112.20050510011439@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4ACr2Wm004402 On 5/10/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/9/2005, 7:45 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > MM> And your ass doesn't look that huge! > > Imagine it isn't meant that way, but sounds like damning by faint > praise....It isn't THAT huge, just pretty huge. :-) It's bigger than it was when I saw it in person. Not that there's anything wrong with that. You have a problem with huge asses? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:04:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AD4MWm006097 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AE02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:54:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:54:21 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACsLb4030164 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:54:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510125421.XVDZ2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:54:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:54:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Two reasons we have it go to credit card. We get lots of points for >the charges. And we can use the float until the next payment is due. > > What does "using the float" mean? >Also don't have to worry about keeping enough in the bank at some >exact moment that the bill might come due, of unknown amount. And our > > I get statements from all of these entities (including Visa) at least ten days before they take the money from my checking account. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:04:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AD4MWm006098 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AE1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:56:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:56:05 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACu5EC030777 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:56:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19028336 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:12:58 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 05:56:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:56:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <631543120.20050510065610@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: lockables In-Reply-To: <42809FE1.7060306@maynor.net> References: <1053535325.20050510014821@gailndan.com> <42809FE1.7060306@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 193, in=66965, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 5:49 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I thought her point was that she was worried that NM> her teaching materials NM> might get stolen en route. Well, if someone cut into a bag, or broke into it, or whatever, and they found teaching materials, it seems pretty unlikely they'd abscond with them. More like an "oh shit" moment on their part. NM> I've never thought about NM> the particular NM> destination of a flight as having much to do with NM> the safety of my NM> possessions, especially since some of the passengers NM> on a flight to a NM> destination (e.g., Japan) might be changing NM> planes there to go on NM> to a destination (e.g., USA). Agree completely on that. Maybe the locals are "particularly untrustworthy" in Barcelona these days. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:04:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AD4MWm006094 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AE30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:58:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:58:16 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACwGRR030997 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:58:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19310260 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:58:37 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 05:58:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:58:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 191, in=65836, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 6:51 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I realize that you are an authority on most NM> subjects, but you are NOT an NM> authority on my financial life. My Visa card is NM> *CREDIT CARD ONLY*. It NM> is *NOT* a debit card. The money is paid from my NM> checking account NM> because that happens to be where I keep the money I NM> use for everyday NM> life, like paying the Visa bill. No matter WTF you choose to call it, if it is debiting your bank account, it is a debit card. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:04:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AD4MWm006096 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062AF0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:54:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:54:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACsNcr030173 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:54:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1595189wri for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.110.12 with SMTP id i12mr492352wrc; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 05:54:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=J+IyzwcChE/9DWVn8mdvsPauTHW2P2ou5nQuweuaWKOmpQpB3E2OWHGZVAZyHyKCKpPQvKfVXQ8ucGJ5srnPas0bizF5XIK4xnc9ZW4xCOfe7dScTE9w1TbHS5/+KTFtHgxA7BcXAdmcOPW3XMp/Apb3MFPddwNMJ4fwOBdez1c= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:54:23 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I {heart} my roof In-Reply-To: <427FE4CE.2000108@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427ECF87.1040503@maynor.net> <427F5999.8040606@bc.edu> <427FE4CE.2000108@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AD4MWm006096 I like the way the lines of the roof accentuate the vertical lines of your siding. Marie On 5/9/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Rita Leonard wrote: > > >> http://www.maynor.net/Temp/before-after.html > > > > Nice improvements all around. The windows and door look great too. > > Thanks. I liked the way the old door looked in a way, but I did not > like all that glass, meaning lack of privacy. And its handle fell off > the day of closing on the house (an easy matter to have gotten repaired, > of course). But mainly I wanted a door with a mail-slot, which I am > very, very much enjoying having. It's great to find my mail piled on > the floor, especially when returning from a trip. So all in all, I'm > happy with the door change. (And the old door moved to Starkville, > where it is to be on a house my real-estate agent and her husband are > fixing up to sell.) And I am of course very happy with the windows > also. It's wonderful to be able to open and close windows without > separate storm windows to contend with (these are double-pained -- no > outside storm windows). And they look mightily better than those old > windows looked. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:04:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AD4MWn006097 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AE3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 8:59:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:59:26 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ACxQGs031254 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:59:26 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19136910 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:02:28 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 05:59:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:59:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <16710281724.20050510065929@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Taiwan In-Reply-To: References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> <1348374112.20050510011439@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 193, in=79474, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 6:53 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: MM> :-) It's bigger than it was when I saw it in MM> person. Not that there's MM> anything wrong with that. MM> You have a problem with huge asses? Not me. I hate skinny little things. "Fat Bottom Girls You Make The World Go 'Round". A guy needs something to hold on to. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:04:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AD4MWn006096 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AE51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:00:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:00:35 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AD0Y0j031492 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:00:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19028656 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:17:28 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 06:00:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:00:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 193, in=66966, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 6:54 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> What does "using the float" mean? Using their money, not mine, for the period from when it is charged until I pay it. That can be well over a month in some cases, without any interest being paid on it. >>Also don't have to worry about keeping enough in >>the bank at some >>exact moment that the bill might come due, of >>unknown amount. And our >> >> NM> I get statements from all of these entities NM> (including Visa) at least NM> ten days before they take the money from my checking NM> account. Yes, but you still lack the control over WHEN it comes out. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:05:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AD4MWn006094 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:05:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062B02E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:02:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:02:51 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AD2olP031952 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:02:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5344398C84 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:02:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27951-06 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:02:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D380298991 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:01:39 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280B090.1000003@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:01:04 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> <1348374112.20050510011439@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.296 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >On 5/10/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > >>5/9/2005, 7:45 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: >> >>MM> And your ass doesn't look that huge! >> >>Imagine it isn't meant that way, but sounds like damning by faint >>praise....It isn't THAT huge, just pretty huge. >> >> > > :-) It's bigger than it was when I saw it in person. Not that there's >anything wrong with that. >You have a problem with huge asses? > He should've written another word with capitals, too: PRETTY huge. Then we shouldn't worry whether he has any problem with them. Anyway, that's how I read it, as if 'huge' was just an unnecessary tag at the end of the sentence. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:04:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AD4MWn006098 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:04:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AE58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:01:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 164990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:01:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4ACp8RG029602 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 28175 invoked by uid 1003); 10 May 2005 12:51:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:51:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% Message-ID: <20050510125107.GA26284@words-l.org> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <20050509155137.GA26562@words-l.org> <193182102.20050510012053@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <193182102.20050510012053@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:20:53AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/9/2005, 9:51 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> You should of said: they > DMH> are a fucking > DMH> BUSINESS! > > No, they're not a fucking business. That would be an escort service > or whore house. > > DMH> A fuckin BUSINESS can do whatever the fuck > DMH> it wants. > > As long as it is in most Nevada counties or a few other places...or > the cops are paid off. Well, this post isn't that idiotic! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:51:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ADpUWm012743 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AEFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:11:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 168098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:11:29 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADBSQg000950 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:11:28 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3560198AAE for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:11:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29670-09 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:11:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBAE9881A for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:11:26 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280B2DB.3050207@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:10:51 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.341 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >5/10/2005, 6:51 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> I realize that you are an authority on most >NM> subjects, but you are NOT an >NM> authority on my financial life. My Visa card is >NM> *CREDIT CARD ONLY*. It >NM> is *NOT* a debit card. The money is paid from my >NM> checking account >NM> because that happens to be where I keep the money I >NM> use for everyday >NM> life, like paying the Visa bill. > >No matter WTF you choose to call it, if it is debiting your bank >account, it is a debit card. > But where else can the money used with a credit card be taken back by the bank? An option may be that you pay it with an order. In one case you make a special order to pay the money back, either in cash (?) of from your bank account or in some other way; in the other you have a contract with the bank that it takes it back itself from your account on a date agreed. What's the difference? The money must go back to the credit account anyway, from somewhere. Do people nowadays really pay cash to bank to refill their credit accounts? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:51:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ADpUWm012744 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062AF4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:16:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 168817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:16:40 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADGeA9001588 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:16:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C283C9886B for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:16:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31083-04 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:16:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E02C98CB4 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:16:14 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280B3FA.2090607@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:15:38 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B2DB.3050207@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4280B2DB.3050207@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.341 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > >> No matter WTF you choose to call it, if it is debiting your bank >> account, it is a debit card. >> > But where else can the money used with a credit card be taken back by > the bank? > What's the difference? The money must go back to the > credit account anyway, from somewhere. Do people nowadays really pay > cash to bank to refill their credit accounts? Dan, you probably answered my question in your recent message under the hat% thread. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:52:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ADpXWm012766 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062B049@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:31:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:31:34 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADVXug004590 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:31:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B15C98DAE for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:31:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01611-05 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:31:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EE398DE5 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:26:39 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:26:03 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.342 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I get statements from all of these entities >NM> (including Visa) at least >NM> ten days before they take the money from my checking >NM> account. > >Yes, but you still lack the control over WHEN it comes out. > Here there are two main types of credit cards: those with paying back regularly, i.e, the bank debits the owner's account; and those with free payback (that means, the owner does have control over his/her money, choosing when and how much s/he would pay). Both are called credit cards, and accepted as such everywhere else -- in other countries, online shops, etc. If, say, amazon.com accepts it as a credit card, how could it be not, although my bank debits my account on a certain date after I've used the card? Now, have I mixed two discussions? I certainly mixed two threads for the subject seemed to be the same. If not -- sorry. I must reread some messages then. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:52:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ADpXWm012768 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:52:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062B19B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:25:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 168624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:25:22 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4ADFMCs001413 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:15:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 59679 invoked by uid 1003); 10 May 2005 13:15:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:15:21 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan Message-ID: <20050510131521.GA56116@words-l.org> References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> <1348374112.20050510011439@gailndan.com> <4280B090.1000003@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4280B090.1000003@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 04:01:04PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Marieber Meeber wrote: > >On 5/10/05, Dan Lester wrote: > >>5/9/2005, 7:45 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: > >> > >>MM> And your ass doesn't look that huge! > >> > >>Imagine it isn't meant that way, but sounds like damning by faint > >>praise....It isn't THAT huge, just pretty huge. > > > >:-) It's bigger than it was when I saw it in person. Not that there's > >anything wrong with that. > >You have a problem with huge asses? > > He should've written another word with capitals, too: PRETTY huge. > Then we shouldn't worry whether he has any problem with them. Can't people just be grateful that they weren't 3.5M "unedited" 8192 x 6144 pictures? Now those would be HUGE ASS pictures. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:52:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ADpUWn012743 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:52:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062B055@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:32:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:32:39 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADWdUt004763 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:32:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510133238.ZVLB23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:32:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4280B7F2.2000600@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:32:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I {heart} my roof References: <427ECF87.1040503@maynor.net> <427F5999.8040606@bc.edu> <427FE4CE.2000108@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >I like the way the lines of the roof accentuate the vertical lines of your >siding. > > Ohh. Thank you. I hadn't thought of that . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:52:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ADpUWn012744 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:51:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:52:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062B38E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:48:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:48:55 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADmtpq007798 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:48:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510134855.YKS23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:48:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4280BBC2.9090704@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:48:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> What does "using the float" mean? > >Using their money, not mine, for the period from when it is charged >until I pay it. That can be well over a month in some cases, without >any interest being paid on it. > > Ah so. I do that every month for pretty much everything in my life. My reason for doing it is convenience -- I find using my credit card (to you it's a debit card, I realize) more convenient than writing checks or using cash. All I have to do is swipe the card when buying something and then subtract one big lump once a month. But a side-effect is that I am in fact living all month on Visa's money (and paying no interest, of course). Iow, I'm using next month's money every time I buy groceries or gas or books or plane tickets or whatever. >NM> I get statements from all of these entities >NM> (including Visa) at least >NM> ten days before they take the money from my checking >NM> account. > >Yes, but you still lack the control over WHEN it comes out. > > Iirc, I had a choice of dates with Visa. I just chose one at random. I don't remember whether the other entities offered choices. I think probably not. I think in all cases bank-draft payments come at the end of the period of time people are given for paying those bills. Iow, I get my statement from the electric company the same day people who don't pay by bank-draft get their bills. They're given X length of time to pay the bill. My bank account is drafted on probably whatever their deadline for paying is. Since I've always paid bills by return mail (in the pre-bank-draft days), I'd say that using bank-draft means I probably keep the money in my bank account a good bit longer, not that that matters much with today's interest rates on checking accounts. I don't see why there would be any advantage to having over the specific date to pay a bill. Like why would it be advantageous for me to write a check to Visa on say May 10 instead of just letting Visa grab the money at the last possible moment, like maybe May 20? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:57:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ADusWm013659 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:56:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:57:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F56800@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:50:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:50:53 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADorov008097 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:50:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510135053.BBUD23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:50:53 -0400 Message-ID: <4280BC39.5010908@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:50:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B2DB.3050207@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4280B2DB.3050207@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >> No matter WTF you choose to call it, if it is debiting your bank >> account, it is a debit card. > > But where else can the money used with a credit card be taken back by > the bank? An option may be that you pay it with an order. In one case > you make a special order to pay the money back, either in cash (?) of > from your bank account or in some other way; in the other you have a > contract with the bank that it takes it back itself from your account on > a date agreed. What's the difference? The money must go back to the > credit account anyway, from somewhere. Do people nowadays really pay > cash to bank to refill their credit accounts? Dan apparently keeps cash under his mattress -- money that never visits a bank. But I think most people look at bill-paying the way you do -- that using a bank is a normal part of the process. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:57:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ADusWm013660 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:56:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:57:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F564FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:18:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 167553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:18:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4AD8XTS000307 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:08:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 54692 invoked by uid 1003); 10 May 2005 13:08:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:08:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan Message-ID: <20050510130832.GA53221@words-l.org> References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> <1348374112.20050510011439@gailndan.com> <16710281724.20050510065929@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16710281724.20050510065929@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 06:59:29AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > > > A guy needs something to hold on to. What a wonderful tribute! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 08:57:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ADusWm013657 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:56:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:57:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F566C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:39:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 172862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:39:45 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADdjI3006148 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:39:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510133945.HUD23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:39:45 -0400 Message-ID: <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:39:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I realize that you are an authority on most >NM> subjects, but you are NOT an >NM> authority on my financial life. My Visa card is >NM> *CREDIT CARD ONLY*. It >NM> is *NOT* a debit card. The money is paid from my >NM> checking account >NM> because that happens to be where I keep the money I >NM> use for everyday >NM> life, like paying the Visa bill. > >No matter WTF you choose to call it, if it is debiting your bank >account, it is a debit card. > > How do you pay for your credit-card charges? Do you take a wad of cash to the payment place? If so, where does that cash come from? Do you keep it under your mattress? In my world, using a bank for money for ordinary expenses is normal. My bank account is debited regularly since that's where I keep my money. It's debited once a month for bills like gas, electricity, Visa, etc. It's debited at irregular intervals (as in when I do these things) for things I do at irregular intervals, like using the ATM or writing checks. If my Visa card is considered a "debit card," why does it work when I click on "credit" rather than "debit" when sliding it in grocery stores, etc? I thought "debit cards" required PINs. Mine has no PIN. And the bank that issued it refers to it as a "credit card," as does Northwest Airlines (it's a "Northwest Airlines Worldperks Visa"). But I'm sure you know best. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:12:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AECEWm016009 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062B360@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:58:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:58:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADwKT8009815 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:58:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1298591nzo for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.19 with SMTP id b19mr136610nzd; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:58:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XZKzTyO2g6qSUlM45CuGMX5NXm6XviXBzvqXoZ+ip9/iSbT8dPrfSfNRb2Sm+HiBfTajKqwRDWp+xXzvlOI/+oWBu+KqxiBNZ0mVvYdCUq7cgq40oBRr2FDrA7cZT+FfzOYCN8tfMGnpy43lf0C9tzt3QL2d5cttSZgrPBP+ViE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:58:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AECEWm016009 On 5/10/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > If my Visa card is considered a "debit card," why does it work when I > click on "credit" rather than "debit" when sliding it in grocery stores, > etc? > Actually, my debit card does exactly this. It has the Visa logo on it, but it's not a credit card. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:12:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AECEWm016008 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062B403@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:57:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:57:15 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADvEpp009622 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:57:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510135714.BMKN23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:57:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:57:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Here there are two main types of credit cards: those with paying back > regularly, i.e, the bank debits the owner's account; and those with free > payback (that means, the owner does have control over his/her money, > choosing when and how much s/he would pay). Both are called credit > cards, and accepted as such everywhere else -- in other countries, > online shops, etc. If, say, amazon.com accepts it as a credit card, how > could it be not, although my bank debits my account on a certain date > after I've used the card? That's exactly how it works here also, except that there's no difference between the cards -- iow, I would not say that "there are two main types of credit cards." It's the same credit card, and you can switch your method of payment for that card any time you want to. If, for example, I decided I wanted to by writing a check every month instead of having my checking account debited for the amount, I could simply say so and continue using the same card. (Dan chooses to use the term "debit card" for a credit card that is paid by bank-draft. I don't think you should assume that is the norm in the US, though. I think it's unique to Dan -- or maybe to Idaho in general. To most USAers a "debit card" is a different thing -- it's like at ATM card in that it takes the money straight out of your bank account rather than "lending" you the money until the end of the month the way a credit card does.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:12:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AECEWm016011 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062B3E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:54:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:54:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADsq9o008864 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:54:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4605927nzp for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.4 with SMTP id h4mr1504345nzb; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:54:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fvK0xz2KA6Wllxzc5RhzTIJ4MWZ6OHXa43mNvlXI0w9fghn2TGqLNc7ntOvX1ps7ZyMkWZaIhU4I8ieivcAuAIKWhQA/DXdxWRsSBRFXdyQkyhS311sh0z0t32EG1WgC/pwPkhJMfQwfQ7naHkZMBBi6uycApPteBpaU1KD2y7U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051006545865d374@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:54:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AECEWm016011 On 5/10/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/10/2005, 6:51 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> I realize that you are an authority on most > NM> subjects, but you are NOT an > NM> authority on my financial life. My Visa card is > NM> *CREDIT CARD ONLY*. It > NM> is *NOT* a debit card. The money is paid from my > NM> checking account > NM> because that happens to be where I keep the money I > NM> use for everyday > NM> life, like paying the Visa bill. > > No matter WTF you choose to call it, if it is debiting your bank > account, it is a debit card. > So they don't have automatic bill pay in Idaho? Talk about your sheltered existence... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:12:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AECEWm016010 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062B390@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:01:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:01:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AE1nPL010388 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:01:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1299916nzo for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.16 with SMTP id a16mr138666nzd; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:01:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mz6dFpQM7TtO7T/xqMDBEAqnrF4nc5J2PZsSeFI4I/PzHRfwIb6kBUe2KFg8cweBFccwOeFeH+fJICp4hhDjx6jncPRbiT6Y3JyMGRizi2OvMclgqxwyVuCRImkN/FlbZ0MxKzam7gteev7cdGRvzvTJMDrHX4bpHmRXuVfaNzU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050510070158672d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:01:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <193182102.20050510012053@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <20050509155137.GA26562@words-l.org> <193182102.20050510012053@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AECEWm016010 God, I can't tell which is The Dan and which is the imitator any more... On 5/10/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/9/2005, 9:51 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> You should of said: they > DMH> are a fucking > DMH> BUSINESS! > > No, they're not a fucking business. That would be an escort service > or whore house. > > DMH> A fuckin BUSINESS can do whatever the fuck > DMH> it wants. > > As long as it is in most Nevada counties or a few other places...or > the cops are paid off. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:12:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AECEWm016007 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062B206@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 9:52:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:52:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ADqDPK008300 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:52:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1296379nzo for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.91.3 with SMTP id o3mr132075nzb; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 06:52:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rj0QcxKMQtgnLvZcgTJYZKMCxZTrqq5ioK6hm7tRHrdk0HnPhY34aR4Jash5lOS7iKhyO8NxMiICSoM4jz2sZdUCBRmPk2mSvulLk7Al3a5JHqf1bsGdE3JPXRDFgZSHlXFzlUawV6VAvt1x9H8L/do3GLxVghWhqixLm11AMOQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050510065265cd9d6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:52:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AECEWm016007 On 5/9/05, Bookrat wrote: > > At 1:21 PM -0700 5/8/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >What do you do with someone who can't tell the difference between > >architecture and implementationk, but is convinced that he understands > >everything perfectly? > > In my experience, all too often you call him "Boss". > Ah! You've helped me put everything into perspective. I will try to remember this before I go ballistic. Of all the people on this project, this is the only person I'd never willingly work with again. But at least he's not my boss. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:14:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AEEqWm016327 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:14:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:14:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F56C14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:14:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 183607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:12:40 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AECeVb012843 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:12:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510141240.BTWI2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:12:40 -0400 Message-ID: <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>If my Visa card is considered a "debit card," why does it work when I >>click on "credit" rather than "debit" when sliding it in grocery stores, >>etc? >> >> > >Actually, my debit card does exactly this. It has the Visa logo on it, but >it's not a credit card. > > I'm not sure what you mean -- your debit card does exactly what? It works as a debit card even if you click on "credit" on the machine? I thought debit cards required PINs. Not true? (I've noticed that people in grocery-store lines who use debit cards have to enter numbers, which I assume are their PINs. When you click on "credit," no PIN is asked for.) None of this has anything to do with logos. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:29:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AESpWm018868 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:28:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:29:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062B7B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:18:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 184161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:18:50 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AEInFZ013837 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:18:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785FA98CE3 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:18:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12194-02 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:18:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC06398DC0 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:55:57 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280BD3C.6020600@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:55:08 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 References: <200505100739.j4A7dZXL013565@sm.luth.se> <42808227.5030806@akad.ee> <4280A030.1070405@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4280A030.1070405@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.343 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> Would somebody truly learn from your >> >>>> explanations? >>>> >> Didn't you read the short annotation at the site the link of which >> Torkel sent first? > > > Yes. That's why I asked the question -- whether the non-specialists > referred to were truly non-specialists. Oh, I see. I probably should have guessed myself. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:29:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AESpWm018869 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:28:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:29:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062B7F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:27:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 184966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:27:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AERIEO015288 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:27:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4623443nzp for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.3 with SMTP id a3mr1554538nzc; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:27:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=j3P4TNL6KaI2a5rN7y/ohtKXCOy3k5d2xFOzXM7tPNuOxjTlL7wLBVRmNrGEeARYeKmbjdNuRL7WnKrTeZfipCtGfDNY7nE4Ju6xaXdDwzmXs1O/WMvl7u0lpgJg09oVMF6QJhe800QlMp89NiE/6RMsc3F29blUBoQgGo/zvAE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050510072769ca2381@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:27:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AESpWm018869 On 5/10/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>If my Visa card is considered a "debit card," why does it work when I > >>click on "credit" rather than "debit" when sliding it in grocery stores, > >>etc? > >> > >> > > > >Actually, my debit card does exactly this. It has the Visa logo on it, > but > >it's not a credit card. > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean -- your debit card does exactly what? It > works as a debit card even if you click on "credit" on the machine? Yes. None of this has anything to do with logos. > Yes, it does. There are debit cards not associate with Visa, and they don't have the Visa logo and you can't use them places that only accept Visa. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:30:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AEUfWm019243 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:30:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:30:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062B755@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:30:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:30:40 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AEUexw015797 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:30:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D455698D37 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:30:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15207-01 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:30:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2577398D05 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:26:45 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:26:45 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.344 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > >> No matter WTF you choose to call it, if it is debiting your bank >> account, it is a debit card. > > How do you pay for your credit-card charges? Do you take a wad of cash > to the payment place? If so, where does that cash come from? Do you > keep it under your mattress? I can see you ask more or less the same questions I did. (Although I transferred part of the discussion underto another thread, maybe I shouldn't have.) Good. For although I'm not naturally much interested in finesses of fiscal matters sometimes one just has to know things. And when two people ask about the same things in slightly different formulations it convinces me my questions didn't sound like some from a totally different world. > If my Visa card is considered a "debit card," why does it work when I > click on "credit" rather than "debit" when sliding it in grocery stores, > etc? I thought "debit cards" required PINs. Mine has no PIN. Mine has. How can you prove in a shop or hotel, if needed, that this is your card you are using? Showing a document with your photo, if asked? Well, I carry it along anyway, but I thought a bank card usually has some additional security code. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:38:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AEcSWm020230 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:38:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:38:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062B674@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:38:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:38:27 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4AESRk0015434 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:28:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 5404 invoked by uid 1003); 10 May 2005 14:28:26 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:28:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys Message-ID: <20050510142826.GA1849@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <20050507141206.GB8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050510065265cd9d6b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050510065265cd9d6b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:52:13AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/9/05, Bookrat wrote: > > At 1:21 PM -0700 5/8/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > >What do you do with someone who can't tell the difference between > > >architecture and implementationk, but is convinced that he understands > > >everything perfectly? > > > > In my experience, all too often you call him "Boss". > > > > Ah! > > You've helped me put everything into perspective. How has some sourpuss's curdled experience put "everything in perspective" for you? Or are you just being weird? Because, Austin's like pretty weird, man. Keep Austin WEIRD! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:40:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AEdrWm020424 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:39:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:40:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062B67D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:39:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:39:53 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4AETqqY015643 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:29:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 6397 invoked by uid 1003); 10 May 2005 14:29:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:29:52 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% Message-ID: <20050510142952.GB1849@words-l.org> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <20050509155137.GA26562@words-l.org> <193182102.20050510012053@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050510070158672d9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050510070158672d9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:01:48AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > God, I can't tell which is The Dan and which is the imitator any more... Good one ... like anyone has been able to tell any wordslurs apart for years ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:43:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AEgrWm020751 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:42:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:43:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062B79E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:42:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 186051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:42:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AEgrAq017796 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:42:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4632411nzp for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.8 with SMTP id l8mr1551938nzl; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:42:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=G5BRT1NqoQJ3SC3oOvw5+Ig/T10C9aIEOLVQfhN8VDq0Dg11KjYvW6TYr5Jo5sq8VDNBJ3157kOeE3VcoyHDIIIiCjOg/tm6x4Z63sSI0JKjR/vt4bgJVQdmGvd7EId6AeQg5B+cWdBRI5RaKTD1WektIYPbTgjA7/hx5r6Z2ZI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051007422c8b5260@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:42:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AEgrWm020751 On 5/10/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > Well, I carry it along anyway, but I thought a bank card usually has > some additional security code. My credit card does have a pin--as does my debit card. There's also a 3-digit security number for the debit card (which is really for the Visa part of it, so for the credit-card part of the debit card). IOW, it's fuzzier than Natalie thinks it is. The only differentiating factor is credit vs. debit. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:53:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AErcWm022237 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:53:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:53:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062B7AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:43:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 185324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:43:37 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4AEXau1016253 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:33:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 8187 invoked by uid 1003); 10 May 2005 14:33:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:33:36 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language Message-ID: <20050510143336.GC1849@words-l.org> References: <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:12:36AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>If my Visa card is considered a "debit card," why does it work when I > >>click on "credit" rather than "debit" when sliding it in grocery stores, > >>etc? > >> > >> > > > >Actually, my debit card does exactly this. It has the Visa logo on it, but > >it's not a credit card. > > I'm not sure what you mean -- your debit card does exactly what? It > works as a debit card even if you click on "credit" on the machine? I > thought debit cards required PINs. Not true? (I've noticed that people > in grocery-store lines who use debit cards have to enter numbers, which > I assume are their PINs. When you click on "credit," no PIN is asked for.) > > None of this has anything to do with logos. I think the simplest falsifiable hypothesis--and Dr Voigtlander can back me on this--is that Dan has been dumping enormous quantities of B.S. in this thread. $20000 bail in Istanbul ... getthefuckouttahere From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:53:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AErcWm022239 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:53:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:53:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062B6D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:48:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 186871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:48:22 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AEmLNe019202 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:48:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C4998CB8 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:48:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18082-01 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:48:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7DA98CA5 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:48:19 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280C9B3.6060007@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:48:19 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.344 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> Here there are two main types of credit cards: those with paying back >> regularly, i.e, the bank debits the owner's account; and those with free >> payback (that means, the owner does have control over his/her money, >> choosing when and how much s/he would pay). > > That's exactly how it works here also, except that there's no difference > between the cards -- iow, I would not say that "there are two main types > of credit cards." Here the banks themselves classify them as two main types, but both types seem to have several sub-types as well. And then there's some flexibility how exactly the contract is written. But as to the details I only know those of my own cards. > To most USAers a > "debit card" is a different thing -- it's like at ATM card in that it > takes the money straight out of your bank account rather than "lending" > you the money until the end of the month the way a credit card does.) That's how I understand it as well. Never saw an ATM card, only have read about it in this service, but my everyday card is a debit card (although some credit can be associated with it with a special contract, thus, the bank *may* lend me some money if I have the contract). Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:53:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AErcWm022240 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:53:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:53:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062B7B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:43:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 186264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:43:59 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AEhw6A018152 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:43:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4633099nzp for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.4 with SMTP id h4mr1531556nzb; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:43:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pD5ZCBLtuleOQARo7IXxE7pPm0vuNFYjkXthCcFR0GyBlbLd3996/C0/9nhuhSz0E+kPycevd463LF+aly+iQcHx8KjWlkqqyegzvqyUZEf8Ml7dDu9LbWN1AlAU8Lc6SweEwxIhQFoXaasQZuXi0UXf1y3sS2bJGApiYHIT/8I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050510074362415912@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:43:58 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys In-Reply-To: <20050510142826.GA1849@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705050705367ccc1475@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050510065265cd9d6b@mail.gmail.com> <20050510142826.GA1849@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AErcWm022240 On 5/10/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:52:13AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 5/9/05, Bookrat wrote: > > > At 1:21 PM -0700 5/8/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > >What do you do with someone who can't tell the difference between > > > >architecture and implementationk, but is convinced that he > understands > > > >everything perfectly? > > > > > > In my experience, all too often you call him "Boss". > > > > > > > Ah! > > > > You've helped me put everything into perspective. > > How has some sourpuss's curdled experience put "everything > in perspective" for you? Because as it stands, this guy is not my boss, he's merely an asshole. Or are you just being weird? Because, Austin's like pretty > weird, man. Keep Austin WEIRD! Like, I didn't know! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 09:53:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AErcWn022237 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:53:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:53:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062B894@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:48:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 186891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:48:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AEmQ4q019221 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:48:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1636662wri for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.110.12 with SMTP id i12mr546198wrc; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 07:48:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aait72Jj/0GMwe/eWECec5M+fMyUsGZROk5ccDpSWeHmJcEbKwCqVcibMDprKLqpp5EBmuRWXYizMwS13Ia4uA2TyD/ocBAtEtPLKMxXURmlWV9GB5pjpW6Mq9v7k00lCoT6gikQQqcroM6vhnYbq7+gx6mt1YeK57WzfBrtAiU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:48:25 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan In-Reply-To: <16710281724.20050510065929@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> <1348374112.20050510011439@gailndan.com> <16710281724.20050510065929@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AErcWn022237 On 5/10/05, Dan Lester wrote: Not me. I hate skinny little things. "Fat Bottom Girls You Make The World Go 'Round". A guy needs something to hold on to. ug. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 10:09:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AF9cWm025034 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:09:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:09:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062B8D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:59:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 187921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:59:37 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AExb80021412 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:59:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC29E984D1 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:59:36 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21067-02 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:59:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E35997501 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:59:35 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280CC57.1020807@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:59:35 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.345 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I > thought debit cards required PINs. Not true? (I've noticed that people > in grocery-store lines who use debit cards have to enter numbers, which > I assume are their PINs. When you click on "credit," no PIN is asked > for.) This must be different in different countries, and probably US states as well, then. In most places where I pay with my debit card PIN is not asked for. I need PIN when taking cash from money machines/bank automates, and also in some shops to pay with it. When I payed with the debit card in the UK PIN wasn't asked for, either. And it would be the same with a credit card here -- the PIN is not usually required in shops but it is when taking out money from the bank machine (but there's a rather big fee to be payed for the latter, so I doubt many people do it if not in an urgent need). Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 10:09:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AF9cWm025033 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:09:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:09:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062B746@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:04:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 188429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:04:38 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AF4c08022188 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:04:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510150436.RFCI2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:04:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4280CD81.7080203@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:04:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050510072769ca2381@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050510072769ca2381@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>I'm not sure what you mean -- your debit card does exactly what? It >>works as a debit card even if you click on "credit" on the machine? >> >> >Yes. > > That makes me wonder why the machines ask that question. What's the point of asking if the machine automatically knows which it is? >None of this has anything to do with logos. > > > >Yes, it does. There are debit cards not associate with Visa, and they don't >have the Visa logo and you can't use them places that only accept Visa. > > Well, of course. My "none of this" was referring to none of the mechanism about whether it's a credit card or a debit card. Obviously you can't use a card (of whichever kind) in places that don't accept that particular of card. The same is true of ATMs, which is why there are usually signs on ATMs telling which kinds will work in that machine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 10:30:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AFU2Wm028793 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:30:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:30:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062B920@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:10:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 189089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:10:01 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AFA1lI023523 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:10:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510151001.RJEM2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:10:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4280CEC5.3000601@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:09:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> <4280CC57.1020807@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4280CC57.1020807@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > debit card in the UK PIN wasn't asked for, either. And it would be the > same with a credit card here -- the PIN is not usually required in shops > but it is when taking out money from the bank machine (but there's a I've never thought of using a credit card as an ATM card -- as in taking money out of an ATM. I didn't know that would even work (though I know one can walk into a bank and get cash on a credit card -- or at least could back in the old days, before ATMs existed). I've used my credit card in -- I started to say "all parts of the world" but I guess that depends on how one defines "all parts" -- obviously I haven't been everywhere in the world -- but I've used my credit card in places spread out over the globe. And never has a PIN been expected. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 10:30:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AFU2Wm028794 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:30:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:30:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062B776@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:14:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 189448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:14:41 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AFEfat024249 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:14:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB0698CA7 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:14:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23562-06 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:14:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA229872E for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:14:39 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280CFDF.7040705@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:14:39 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <4280CCBC.7080801@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4280CCBC.7080801@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.346 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> I thought a bank card usually has >> some additional security code. > > > Yes. There's a security code on the back of a credit card that is > sometimes asked for when using it for online purchases (or I guess > telephone or any other non-ftf purchases). That would not help if a > thief actually has your card in hand since it's printed right on the > card. And somebody like a waiter could also have gotten that number off > of the card, along with the regular number. Exactly. That's why, no matter how it is called, I cannot think of it as a mean of security. I bought a plane ticket online for Uku and had to send the company the so-called security code I had to read from the back of my credit card. I do not feel very secure after having revealed it, I must say. But as I understand this is a regular practice when buying something online. As to PINs I won't tell them anybody but family members if sometimes (rarely) needed. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 10:31:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AFVQWm028986 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:31:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:31:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F56E31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:01:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 188021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:01:22 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AF1Lmo021631 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:01:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.180]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510150119.RCOM2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:01:19 -0400 Message-ID: <4280CCBC.7080801@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:01:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >> Mine has no PIN. > > Mine has. How can you prove in a shop or hotel, if needed, that this is > your card you are using? Showing a document with your photo, if asked? Some places do ask for ID. But many don't. That's why it's important to report a stolen credit-card quickly -- so that the info can get into the system, thus making the card not work most places (most, if not all, credit cards have a sort of for the customer, meaning you're liable for only $50 of fraudulent charges, but it is still nice to know that the thief will run into problems when trying to use the stolen card). > Well, I carry it along anyway, but I thought a bank card usually has > some additional security code. Yes. There's a security code on the back of a credit card that is sometimes asked for when using it for online purchases (or I guess telephone or any other non-ftf purchases). That would not help if a thief actually has your card in hand since it's printed right on the card. And somebody like a waiter could also have gotten that number off of the card, along with the regular number. Iow, it's not a fool-proof security measure. It's just one more little window to break. There are such things as credit cards with PINs, I think. (Or rather I know -- you just said you have one. But I meant I had been pretty sure of that earlier.) But they aren't universal -- like in a store you are not going to be automatically asked to give a PIN when using a credit card since many (most probably) credit cards don't have PINs. Someday that may well change -- they may become required, which does make sense. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 10:37:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AFauWm029694 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:36:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:37:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062B8F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:36:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:36:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AFatNl028202 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:36:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so4664840nzp for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr1597294nzb; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 08:36:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hY9rwZkJo80wiVyOZjKL/okvbUTwaNeN7R0EfvFnXKCejjb6JamWwf8BGL8LSvVBSu7eoRjQCNoKoOpDISVJgcrZZe8py12sIGdSoFnczJqN1Z39psLq1fw0yuGWKj0ZYydQOMDJbXPPOebsQHJU3eKwgaCAaXBVkyo90pn/LXQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505100836162479c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:36:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280CD81.7080203@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050510072769ca2381@mail.gmail.com> <4280CD81.7080203@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AFauWm029694 On 5/10/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > That makes me wonder why the machines ask that question. What's the > point of asking if the machine automatically knows which it is? > I can choose to use my debit card as a debit card (requiring a pin) or as a Visa card (requiring only signature). It's not really a credit card when I select credit card; it only requires a different sort of verification. Well, of course. My "none of this" was referring to none of the > mechanism about whether it's a credit card or a debit card. Obviously > you can't use a card (of whichever kind) in places that don't accept > that particular of card. The same is true of ATMs, which is why > there are usually signs on ATMs telling which kinds will work in that > machine. > That's exactly why I select "credit" for my debit card when I go to HEB--they don't recognaize my brand of debit card. But it's still deducted directly from my account. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 11:20:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AGKSWm003295 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:20:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:20:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062BA25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:00:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:00:27 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AG0QJY001054 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:00:27 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2566862wra for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.139.7 with SMTP id m7mr601518wrd; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:00:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qi5CJJhoAFVTFIrlVxPRCB/SIDoFDL2VnJUKAAQ2yLwhQhKucKNJJ4WK9zQGwgx8fbq+nvHiIWtFhRdv26iEvsZXzi8KgYpKug1cf+96A4ilUJsCQpxaTSjlbxMFVrDXb5OtQK7FDfDd/VpGvVicmeL3OMs3Xe7yg6AiXfW5Fa8= Message-ID: <4622719505051009006d481e6e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:00:23 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ? In-Reply-To: <4280998F.3050002@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <46227195050509222659808e0c@mail.gmail.com> <4280998F.3050002@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4AG0RJY001060 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pardon the verbosity. It's mostly catch-up details. On 5/10/05, steph wrote: On 5/10/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 12:26:03AM -0500, phil paxton wrote: Steph> We're all still here, more or less. Where have you been, what have you Steph> been doing, when's the last time you were here, where are you now, and Steph> how many eggslots does your refridgerator have? My 'fridge has no eggslots. I keep them in their carton until I use them. Natalie> Hey, Phil! How's life? How are the animals? I'm fine (sort of), the critters are fine, they're happy the back yard is mowed so Pippi (my silver dapple miniature dachshund) isn't lost in the 12" grass & dandelions. I haven't had a "real" job for about fourteen months. I waited on my "sure thing" guy for placement to come through for a couple of months an they didn't come through so then I started working on things from my "idea book" and now that funds are running low, I've been looking a lot faster and harder. Fortunately, everything is on the web so it's not like the old days when it was fish through newspaper ads. If I had the right people in front of me at this moment, I could start fifteen (or more) products [immediately] and not all software. Every time I start to work on something, I'm afraid something full-time will come through and I'll have to come back to uncompleted work later. And I'm not as proficient at picking back up where I was before. In retrospect, had I started working on them whilst I was idle, I'd have several in the pipeline. My "idea journal"[3] has been kept quite busy. I've had an idea for a tv show for about five or six years, I've now got a second idea for a commercial, an improvement for the billboard of the H2 Hummer, claiming dibs on having created the tags for electronic communication (not HTML but straight text), etc. These aren't the "good" ideas. but the only one on from this list I'm allowed to discuss is the tag as it's not commercial. I haven't found a way to tap into the entertainment ideas so they sit in my journal. A friend of mine asked me, "And then what happens?" "Well, they're handy in my journal." "Yes, but then what happens?" I have no way of unloading these things. I just dream them up. Oh, and when necessary, I have started using this: It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a pig! (think about it) ______________________ Years 'n years ago (10? 15?), I mentioned how people seemed[1] to pronounce: "this morning" as "the smorning" and "this afternoon" as "the safternoon" because there really isn't the gap where one would expect to hear it. On the NBC Nightly News, I don't think I've heard them ever pronounce this correctly: Jim Miklaszewski instead, it's: JimM iklaszewski To my ears, the gap is quite obvious when I hear it. At this point, you have read at least part of the footnote and know my differentiation of these gaps may be very subjective although I [also] remember them from quite some time ago. Mind you, most of my knowledge of grammar has been triggered as a result of taking four years of Latin in high school; the remainder, a matter of trying to get material clean enough for the editors [to use] when the heat was on as a ghost writer when I worked for a computer book publisher and authors either weren't coming through (or coming through with quality material the editors could comprehend) or product features changed and the had to be addressed in the text. It's my understanding [that][2] in this type of case: "My mom threw a party for Tommy and me." is correct for double objects of the preposition? and the rule taught in school determine the proper pronoun is: "My mom threw a party for Tommy." "My mom threw a party for me." then they are joined as a compound object. If you notice in most situations these days people now say, almost exclusively: "My mom threw a party for Tommy and I." I know they won't change a single object from "My mom threw a party for me." to "My mom threw a party for I." Watching tv shows, it happens without fail. Watching the standard news stations such as CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, etc. where they interview people from all walks of life, it's rare to hear "and me". Are we witnessing a change in grammar from persistent, widespread use? ____________________________ [1] I've had tinnitis since my accident. (The tenth anniversary was April 20th - the day after the Okla City bombing's tenth anniversary). For the previous month or so, I've suffered from vertigo - frequently when standing up after sitting upright. This has resulted in several incidents of falling /s warning. And example was walking back to the couch one night about ten days ago and as I was about to turn around to sit down, the bottom of the floor dropped out and I introduced the corner of the table to my rebuilt knee. I've got two shoulders this morning and I have a faint memory of trying to catch myself during a fall during the night - likely to get the dogs back in during the night. once I sit down, I'm still woozy until I get everything settled again. Anyway, I've been to the doc twice. The first time, it was a script for mecclizine (anti-vert, as in anti-vertigo) and see what that did, which was nothing. He'd hoped it was a virus. But time proved that wrong. Blood tests showed non of my dozen+ meds were at unusual levels. So Friday comes an ENG test to look for Meniere's.(http://tinyurl.com/9ndbg). My doc said "just be patient and we'll find out what this is." and I replied, "remember whom you are talking to. How can anyone be any more patient than living with a constant headache and tinnitis for ten years?" My medical mentor from my teens passed through last week and I don't know which bothered him more - that I coudn't find steady work or that I was facing Meniere's. I told I'm I'd rather lose my sense of sound than sight. If Meniere's doesn't show up, then it's time for MRI and EEG. The latter is excruciating because the strobe lilghts are a trigger for me. [2] I hate using "that" and if it can be dropped, I do so. If not and "which" can be used, I do so. Is this a proper rule to follow? [3] Border's always has inexpensive, hardback journals and sketchbooks (the former lined, the latter unlined) for ca. $6, three for the price of two. They work very well for toting about where electronic doodads are more of an impediment. Mine is a 6"x8" journal and does quite well as it's small enough to avoid drawing attention but I've got plenty of room and freedom to write what I want. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 11:25:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AGPHWm003780 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:25:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:25:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F57233@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:25:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:25:16 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AGPGLr005254 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:25:16 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2577871wra for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.39.76 with SMTP id m76mr609549wrm; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 09:25:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=urJ00o2qpC6wiG8DjWthclWcIULwTBgrddoP4UJQhtJYYlvxwNWN4PvxKxq1uveki+2nHk39IC3AlvRzpLbYABjQU89KJrna7YgwBJaDNvSmhOAhGuXiuqou1shKcfyk5+Y1EbuivA4uCfzHoO5dpX71BTVry5epxjod9vNz0qc= Message-ID: <462271950505100925373bb15f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:25:16 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Before I Forget In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505100836162479c6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050510072769ca2381@mail.gmail.com> <4280CD81.7080203@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100836162479c6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4AGPGLr005258 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My apologies for not offering this in my first posting: Anyone need Google Gmail accounts? I'm sitting on 200 of them (50 @ 4 accounts). When I hand them out, they replenish them pretty fast. People seem afraid to ask for more than one as though it make them appear selfish. Someone asked if it was okay to get twelve of them last week. I'm sitting on 200. What's twelve? If you aren't interested but have a co-worker, a co-worker who has a neighbor, a co-worker who has a neighbor who is cheating on them and has a pool cleaner, .... Just let me know where you want them sent and how many. They don't even have to be sent to the final recipient. They are just anchors|links to click so I can send them all to myself and forward them to you just as though I can send them to anyone else. (just as you could have yourself the recipient and deal with them on your own schedule) ________________________________________ "We don't think an opt-in regime has an economic viability," says DMA (Direct Marketing Association) Sr. VP Jerry Cerasale. "If you go with opt-in, you foreclose the economic viability of this as a marketing channel." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 11:53:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AGr1Wm007688 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:53:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 11:53:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F573B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:53:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:53:01 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AGr1Go010323 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:53:01 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F57362@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:53:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200505101653.j4AGr1Go010323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:53:00 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 9 May 2005 17:59:02 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>It's pretty rare for people other than our family to sleep in the camp >>itself. >> >Ah -- that's a whole nother scene from what that description sounded like. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I'd chalk that up to my nostalgia for the good old days, when our college and high school buddies blanketed the floors with sleeping bags and just hung out. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 12:17:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AHHSWm011895 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:17:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:17:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062BAE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:07:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:07:27 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AH7QkO012842 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:07:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2596020wra for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.78 with SMTP id v78mr630432wrv; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:07:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CZhpp/zYwScXKCi06i6hjSn0DFPe/4N9rHKv+SCTEdkxF3WQOfCAT03RzDMKH5ZZqSuyr4s9OxY1kwKcZRSgMG5U7C92t9FXxTyaKZSUbW145/+eWRtTIbdLOqr+ExJKjHRi4MijIrXQJ94J25lnLuxzOjqWG4SQqwaRItylS+M= Message-ID: <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:07:25 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <42808551.40107@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4AH7QkO012843 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/10/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Tony Harminc wrote: > > >I get > >several similar spams a day, mostly with some urgent warning that my > >eBay account is about to be cancelled unless I "update my information" > >on their (fake) site. Of course they want me to fill in my credit card > >numbers, bank account and PIN, and so on. > > > Reading this, I understand again that no warning is superfluous - > thanks! Of course I know that one shouldn't reveal any security data, > yet sometimes I may forget it, I'm afraid. PayPal and eBay spoofs are pretty regular phishing expeditions. Lately, some of the larger banks have been phished as well. They've gone so far as to keep most of the links intact. This includes the "If you have any qualms about supplying information, click here and contact the staff." and that link will go to the institution itself. So the only link which will be illegitimate will be the one where you sign on and change passwords. Google at times has turned off any HTML formatting and posts the illegitimate link as the text you would have clicked but doesn't show what you were seeing. They do, however, post warnings at the top of the message when the headers are out of kilter. What people *don't* realize is once they (the bad guys) have a bank account (PayPal), a credit card number, etc. that number will be spread across a well-developed, worldwide network. By the time you realize something is amiss, any assets tied to anything you've opened up are gone.You'll get compensated if you've set things up correctly, such in the case of a credit card, but in the meantime you'll be living in Hell's Bathroom and hearing the lever being pulled on a regular basis. "I'm sorry, I can't make the mortgage payment because someone robbed me blind across the Internet. [with my assistance]" People need to look at communications from any business entity along the lines of someone walking up to them in New York City and saying, "Hey! Give me a credit card, run a lap around this city block. When you come back, I'll give you ten thousand dollars in cash for your efforts *and* your credit card back to you." Anyone who would fall for that needs to return to Kansas where they can be routinely violated by the farm animals. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 12:27:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AHRXWm013069 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:27:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:27:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062BCAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:27:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 203947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:27:33 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AHRX5J015825 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:27:33 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5752C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:27:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200505101727.j4AHRX5J015825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:27:32 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 10 May 2005 13:18:02 +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> a gathering that's a lot like a wordsler fest. >> >Clo, maybe I've missed some of your messages about the camp, either last >year or this, but I have a weird question: what is the *aim* of such a >camp? I'm not sure it's come up before. When V's father owned it, it was a hunting and fishing club (officially), but also a poker-playing, drinking, and practical joke-playing club. When V and his buddies (common denominator - music) were in high school, they built cabins in the woods near home, and hung out there to play guitar, play cards, and generally fool around. When V was given the deed to the camp and everybody learned to drive, they simply moved their get-togethers to down to Leetonia. They've been going down for Memorial Day, Labor Day, New Year's, and summer weekends for 30 years, and every year one or two new people come, which keeps it interesting. >Hmmp... this does sound weird for actually I do not think there >should be any special aim other than just feel good in the wild, away >from one's everyday routine, and do whatever one likes to do -- either >finish one's work or hang out in the woods or meditate, though not the >way it was forbidden in the rules, and, then be together with friends. >Is there any other aim? (I do not know why I thought there was.) > >Kristin Well, playing music together might be considered another one, but I think overall, you've said it very well. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 12:34:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AHYEWm013952 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:34:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:34:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062BD96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:34:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 203709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:34:13 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4AHODWp015477 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:24:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 19716 invoked by uid 1003); 10 May 2005 17:24:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:24:12 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cat toys Message-ID: <20050510172412.GA17702@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705050720334417958f@mail.gmail.com> <20050508042831.GA13317@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508164334.GA17279@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050508173951.GA85136@words-l.org> <20050508195437.GA18191@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a70505081321350ab918@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050510065265cd9d6b@mail.gmail.com> <20050510142826.GA1849@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050510074362415912@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050510074362415912@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 09:43:58AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/10/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:52:13AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 5/9/05, Bookrat wrote: > > > > At 1:21 PM -0700 5/8/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > > >What do you do with someone who can't tell the difference between > > > > >architecture and implementationk, but is convinced that he > > > > >understands everything perfectly? > > > > > > > > In my experience, all too often you call him "Boss". > > > > > > > > > > Ah! > > > > > > You've helped me put everything into perspective. > > > > How has some sourpuss's curdled experience put "everything > > in perspective" for you? > > Because as it stands, this guy is not my boss, he's merely an asshole. What an excellent perspective! Everything is totally clear now! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 12:48:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AHm2Wm015459 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:48:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:48:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062BD5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:48:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:48:01 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AHm1af020145 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:48:01 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 102546063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 10:48:00 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:48:00 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Speaking of Last Days Onboard In-Reply-To: <4280A4C4.6050604@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:10 AM 5/10/2005 -0500, you wrote: >BB: Have you told us when your actual last day of work is? > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) May 20th, but I've been leaving early all month. So many parties. So many lunches. On my way to The Faculty Club now to meet some retired folks. http://www.berkeleyfacultyclub.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 12:53:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AHrXWm015936 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:53:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:53:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062BC6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:53:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:53:27 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AHrQ8t021246 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:53:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CCC98E80 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:53:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09609-08 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:53:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A13798F07 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:33:01 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:32:29 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.347 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >Lately, some of the larger banks have been phished as well. They've >gone so far as to keep most of the links intact. This includes the >"If you have any qualms about supplying information, click here and >contact the staff." and that link will go to the institution itself. >So the only link which will be illegitimate will be the one where you >sign on and change passwords. > This sounds extremely bad. While the banks often assure and warn their clients that the bank itself would never ask to send a pin code by mail -- well this kind of phishing seems much more dangerous. Changing a password after a while is required in an online bank, so I must hope I won't accidentally go to a wrong site not recognizing it's fake. >Google at times has turned off any HTML formatting and posts the >illegitimate link > when reading on it seems I should save the message and read it weekly. >someone walking up to them in New York City and saying, >"Hey! Give me a credit card, run a lap around this city block. When >you come back, I'll give you ten thousand dollars in cash for your >efforts *and* your credit card back to you." > I may be too suspicious sometimes and too trustful at other times but at least I hope, never as simplistic as to buy that. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 13:13:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AIDmWm018794 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:13:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:13:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062BE08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:09:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:09:32 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AI9V6f024488 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:09:32 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0799028D3C01 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:09:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001201c5558b$5e5c9cb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> Subject: Re: Re: eBay :-( Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:09:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin: > This sounds extremely bad. While the banks often assure and warn their > clients that the bank itself would never ask to send a pin code by mail > -- well this kind of phishing seems much more dangerous. Changing a > password after a while is required in an online bank, so I must hope I > won't accidentally go to a wrong site not recognizing it's fake. If you want to change a password go directly to the site of your and not through a link provided by any email. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 13:13:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AIDmWm018793 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:13:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:13:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062BE7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:03:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:03:47 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AI3l27023476 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:03:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B7098D25 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:03:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11096-04 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:03:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD5C98CDC for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:03:45 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4280F762.8040807@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:03:14 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? References: <200505101727.j4AHRX5J015825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505101727.j4AHRX5J015825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.303 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >they simply moved their >get-togethers to down to Leetonia. > >They've been going down for Memorial Day, Labor Day, New Year's, and > summer weekends for 30 years, and every year one or two new people come, >which keeps it interesting. > > >>actually I do not think there >>should be any special aim other than just feel good... >> >>Kristin >> >> > >Well, playing music together might be considered another one, but I >think overall, you've said it very well. > Aha. Then it must be a cosy place to be at. Or cool. Or full of fun. Or... etc., whatever one expects from it. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 13:21:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AILFWm019593 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:21:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 13:21:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062BEFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:21:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:21:14 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AILEdd026103 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:21:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F577A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:21:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200505101821.j4AILEdd026103@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:21:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 10 May 2005 21:03:14 +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>they simply moved their >>get-togethers to down to Leetonia. >> >>They've been going down for Memorial Day, Labor Day, New Year's, and >> summer weekends for 30 years, and every year one or two new people come, >>which keeps it interesting. >> >> >>>actually I do not think there >>>should be any special aim other than just feel good... >>> >>>Kristin >>> >>> >> >>Well, playing music together might be considered another one, but I >>think overall, you've said it very well. >> >Aha. Then it must be a cosy place to be at. Or cool. Or full of fun. >Or... etc., whatever one expects from it. > >Kristin Yes, for people who don't mind a "rustic" setting. Occasionally a city -dweller will come down, who's never really been exposed before to fresh air, sunshine, and wildlife. A snake in the outhouse, the rustling of chipmunks in the leaves, a hatch of gnats or craneflies, the gnawing of porcupines, the dizzying array of visible stars so far from city lights, the scurry of mice and the flight of bats, the lack of traffic noise, the calls of hunting owls at midnight - all these are unnerving. Such people are afraid to drink the water, afraid to use the outhouse, afraid of becoming lost in the woods, too cold by night, too hot by day, too wet when it rains. They worry about sunburn, wasp-stings, and whether the woodstove will set the camp on fire. Such guests usually don't come back for a second time. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 14:13:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AJD8Wm025845 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:13:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:13:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062C05A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:07:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 214356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:07:54 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AJ7sME002932 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:07:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E82898D38 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:07:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20090-06 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:07:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C6D97596 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:07:45 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4281063A.3060706@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:06:34 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <001201c5558b$5e5c9cb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <001201c5558b$5e5c9cb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.348 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Kristin: > >> This sounds extremely bad. While the banks often assure and warn their >> clients that the bank itself would never ask to send a pin code by mail >> -- well this kind of phishing seems much more dangerous. Changing a >> password after a while is required in an online bank, so I must hope I >> won't accidentally go to a wrong site not recognizing it's fake. > > > If you want to change a password go directly to the site > of your and not through a link > provided by any email. Yes. However friendly and polite the message may seem. That kind of cheatings here have been very clumsy and full of writing mistakes so far -- yet some people have lost money trusting them -- or, more likely, it just didn't occur to them even to think whether to trust or not. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 14:13:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AJD8Wm025844 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:13:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:13:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062BF81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:03:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:03:07 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AJ37o8001692 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:03:07 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2644269wra for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.39.76 with SMTP id m76mr684055wrm; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:03:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I0sYwBArDCpB38+a6Cac9kdkfOD7itbrEfnFLFFiT35c08jLf37a1+em/ddHvUNEuVmGSxSliKNKVoAaIjSXo4w6mW3JHPVthG7X+kapofaegzVjow3M+zGYp/qvp0b6dPputQRD5n0t8WyE0BYQ+2rAAp3SO7dRv4EEdvX9NWE= Message-ID: <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:03:07 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4AJ37o8001693 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/10/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > phil paxton wrote: > > >Lately, some of the larger banks have been phished as well. They've > >gone so far as to keep most of the links intact. This includes the > >"If you have any qualms about supplying information, click here and > >contact the staff." and that link will go to the institution itself. > >So the only link which will be illegitimate will be the one where you > >sign on and change passwords. > > > This sounds extremely bad. While the banks often assure and warn their > clients that the bank itself would never ask to send a pin code by mail > -- well this kind of phishing seems much more dangerous. Changing a > password after a while is required in an online bank, so I must hope I > won't accidentally go to a wrong site not recognizing it's fake. > > >Google at times has turned off any HTML formatting and posts the > >illegitimate link > > > when reading on it seems I should save the message and read it weekly. > > >someone walking up to them in New York City and saying, > >"Hey! Give me a credit card, run a lap around this city block. When > >you come back, I'll give you ten thousand dollars in cash for your > >efforts *and* your credit card back to you." > > > I may be too suspicious sometimes and too trustful at other times but at > least I hope, never as simplistic as to buy that. I would suggest *any* request for personal information which is the result of you receiving email should be on the same level. If they send you notice of corrective action, I would suggest taking care of it by exiting email (unless you use a browser to read email, such as Gmail), starting your browser, going to the address you know to be correct by previous actions[1] and conduct your activities there. If you aren't comfortable with that, then contact an office or representative to see if they did send it. I think some are getting proud, rather than tire of, being able to appear more intelligent[2] than the parties calling for assistance. I have no qualms with that If you have never conducted business with the entity in the email message, I'd suggest those who have Gmail to drop it into the Archive lest anything come up where it would help deal with those who need to be taken out back and have their little peepees whacked with a switch from the nearest willow or maple tree. What anyone should be more vigilant about beyond phishing and viruses is spyware. It doesn't take very much still to drop them onto someone's system, record keystrokes , then echo them back in packets to a particular location. Imagine a HotMail account which just collects bundles of keystrokes [along with the titles of the windows to be fancy]. [1] Subscribing to a discussion list and dealing with passwords is one thing. Receiving information from a financial institution as some form of confirmation when you I'd be wary of. If you're setting up an account, I'd expect the password to be displayed on the screen to avoid confusion with a phish. [2] Which raises a pet peeve when the media talks about other civilizations, "more intelligent than our own". They may be more advanced in the use of technology, but because they have things we don't somehow makes them more intelligent? That would be like saying everyone today is more intelligent than any of our founding fathers because we have cars, televisions, etc. and they didn't. I'll settle for "more advanced [on a given scale]" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 14:14:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AJEMWm025991 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:14:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:14:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F57A5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:14:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 214934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:14:21 -0400 Received: from web60711.mail.yahoo.com (web60711.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.214]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4AJELYd003898 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:14:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 93033 invoked by uid 60001); 10 May 2005 19:14:21 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60711.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:14:21 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=oXwRxIWeITJGetgwAa5VqmF6h18JBS5PgYeUVrdlUNv4o+Vkb4w44lk1kAs3WBBmAd1xxVFjGCsE75JIDlDdV2uyzFXRDs2I+RM1aDAvimNT0CZ5ddVlXPgY8EjNIKR1Aoc6k7r+yxgK0E+wMlwSRIFOrjZYtw8rAl3oKco6Fmg= ; Message-ID: <20050510191421.93031.qmail@web60711.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:14:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: contract language To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > $20000 bail in Istanbul ... getthefuckouttahere In Chicago, no bail - capital offense. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 14:19:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AJJGWm026614 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:19:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:19:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062BEEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:19:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:19:15 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AJJFMQ004713 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:19:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F7D98601 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:19:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20984-01 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:19:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F99298CB5 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:19:13 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42810932.5010607@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:19:14 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? References: <200505101821.j4AILEdd026103@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505101821.j4AILEdd026103@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.348 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Occasionally a city -dweller will come down, who's never really been >exposed before to fresh air, sunshine, and wildlife. >A snake in the outhouse, the rustling of chipmunks in the leaves, >a hatch of gnats or craneflies, the gnawing of porcupines, the dizzying >array of visible stars so far from city lights, the scurry of mice and >the flight of bats, the lack of traffic noise, the calls of hunting owls >at midnight - all these are unnerving. > >Such people are afraid to drink the water, afraid to use the outhouse, >afraid of becoming lost in the woods, too cold by night, too hot by day, >too wet when it rains. They worry about sunburn, wasp-stings, and whether >the woodstove will set the camp on fire. Such guests usually don't come >back for a second time. > Reminds me of the description Tõiv gave last summer about a small group of people from a German nature protection organization who visited Estonia as guests of a similar organization here. During the little trip they had together with Estonians they left the impression as if they had never been hiking in the wild before. They had, but in most "civilized" way. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 14:21:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AJLZWm026847 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:21:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:21:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F57A95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:21:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:21:33 -0400 Received: from web60717.mail.yahoo.com (web60717.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4AJLXlc005020 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:21:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 84924 invoked by uid 60001); 10 May 2005 19:21:33 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60717.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:21:33 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=WahH9+dR8HBLRB49kiJ1CTuCL8BRWKhG14ozYgMYeyKhFBiRsxG2h7c86UDTgDjAQUPWTs8iUlXQcwoqb3BLw5GlDKFLA0jvbFnQwnQQIm0L8ixMZgtimFQSBcD5/3f8NeijemysMbhQSzKZt99sbNKegD7rvA2YK39xZUO80nA= ; Message-ID: <20050510192133.84922.qmail@web60717.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:21:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: contract language To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Kristin Sarv wrote: > > Mine has. How can you prove in a shop or hotel, if > needed, that this is > your card you are using? Showing a document with > your photo, if asked? Possession of the account number in and of itself usually suffices - but I do need a PIN to get cash from an ATM, but there is no charge for this service - unless one counts the built-in charge one pays for just about everything today. I also need a PIN or other extra ID to check bank balances by phone or by Internet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 14:24:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AJOJWm027173 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:24:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:24:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062C00C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:24:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:24:19 -0400 Received: from web60712.mail.yahoo.com (web60712.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.215]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4AJOIIB005216 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:24:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 73359 invoked by uid 60001); 10 May 2005 19:24:17 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60712.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:24:17 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=E7arQxoOPTX2sGx4eIEUC5hCoLHU2AB7XASimgj5YaN6Q1610oEvGu1EFPAbfFs3Jv2jUdpQNNvlIjxsGWWDO80++hpFn4LO77pDRsPF6o467qo3SpF9LsIuzh5YG941rQ06OK5HJRyo9MH7h04cpaClOayIaDRQDSQ2Irr0daA= ; Message-ID: <20050510192417.73357.qmail@web60712.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:24:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Who knew? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Kristin Sarv wrote: > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >Occasionally a city -dweller will come down, who's > never really been > >exposed before to fresh air, sunshine, and > wildlife. > >A snake in the outhouse, the rustling of chipmunks > in the leaves, > >a hatch of gnats or craneflies, the gnawing of > porcupines, You can hear porcupines gnaw? My, what big teeth they have. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 14:33:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AJXnWm028373 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:33:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:33:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062C038@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:33:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:33:48 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AJXmh6006554 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:33:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEFD98CB5 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:33:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22170-10 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:33:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7A597447 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:33:46 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:33:47 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.349 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >I think some are getting >proud, rather than tire of, being able to appear more intelligent[2] >than the parties calling for assistance. > Everybody having answered the telephone call when I've dialed the client support number has been very kind to me when I have had questions. (I keep telling everyone how I like the bank where my account is.) >What anyone should be more vigilant about beyond phishing and viruses >is spyware. > Yep. I never enter an online bank site without having run a spyware detector first. This I've made a rule for myself. And thus I use only one computer, this one at my disposal in the office, to visit the bank site. Now it's getting late here and I suddenly feel very sleepy and it suddenly became very hard to find right words from all the curves of my brain. I'll better finish reading for today and go home. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 14:40:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AJeNWm029182 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:40:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:40:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062BF47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:40:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:40:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AJeM3U007488 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:40:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2659518wra for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.47.40 with SMTP id u40mr705879wru; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 12:40:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UHQ0jD3TKYKyNGL/x8UpI/aIne2Um2Gi2RznZ3EwSXQwkwPpQ3BILpioxJ40EtQqc5wyG3pBQvhZYgdry6/G5aNduOxTyBbqPuNrswkamylxFnhgjSrAzeyveWlrl4K9SbutnXXt/0ujcfHCNDCCyoyl9R9y8SlqSIL+th+5SBc= Message-ID: <46227195050510124047400bc3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:40:21 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <4281063A.3060706@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <001201c5558b$5e5c9cb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4281063A.3060706@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4AJeM3U007492 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/10/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Yes. However friendly and polite the message may seem. That kind of > cheatings here have been very clumsy and full of writing mistakes so far > -- yet some people have lost money trusting them -- or, more likely, it > just didn't occur to them even to think whether to trust or not. Sometimes. Most of them collect a copy of the home page with a SaveAs in the browser such that the entire structure is laid out in fragments, then change the HTML behind the single link taking them to the desired location. Then a message is presented to the recipient. This is where they make the mistakes. But if the mail is sent in HTML format, they (the recipients) see the home page in the email message and click the anchor without reading anything. It looks like {x} so it must be {x}. If it were plaintext and there was more text to lure you to their site, people might catch on not only quicker, but more often. I know a lot of people, particularly those in the anti (anti-spam) community who simply have rules written for their inbox such that if an HTML-formatted message arrives it promptly is routed to DaveNull. This is because anyone who knows them well enough to email them knows they do not accept anything but plain text. And you would be surprised at how strong most peoples' observational skills are. I generally do not grow a beard. I just don't shave and just keep a couple of days of scruff. If I grow a bear of two or three months - usually in Winter - then shave it off, all I hear is, "when did you grow a moustache?" That has been consistent since the first time I let my facial hair grow out at college twenty-five years ago. Perhaps it's because I've never lived more than seventy-five miles from where I was born and it's regional to the leash I wear? (you'll have to scroll the detail bar on the left) Born: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=wabash,+indiana&hl=en Raised: http://tinyurl.com/duwuv College: http://tinyurl.com/aylpf Now: http://tinyurl.com/9ejq4 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 14:47:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AJlSWm029730 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:47:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:47:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062BF81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:47:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:47:28 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4AJbS24007067 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:37:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 28763 invoked by uid 1003); 10 May 2005 19:37:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:37:27 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language Message-ID: <20050510193727.GA27213@words-l.org> References: <20050510191421.93031.qmail@web60711.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050510191421.93031.qmail@web60711.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 12:14:21PM -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > $20000 bail in Istanbul ... getthefuckouttahere > > In Chicago, no bail - capital offense. Oh. I take back everything I said. whatever your sequence of words means From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 16:38:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ALcgWm010955 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:38:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:38:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F57FB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:38:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 226763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:38:42 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ALcgGD023470 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:38:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.145]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510213842.ZJOD2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:38:42 -0400 Message-ID: <428129DD.8030600@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:38:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Last Days Onboard References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > May 20th, but I've been leaving early all month. So many parties. So > many > lunches. On my way to The Faculty Club now to meet some retired > folks. http://www.berkeleyfacultyclub.com/ Did you have fun? I'm impressed with the Chancellor Hotel. A friendly person from there called me this afternoon to confirm that I was still planning on arriving Thursday. I said that indeed I am. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 16:42:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ALgXWm011503 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:42:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:42:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062C231@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:32:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 226223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:32:33 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ALWXP5022837 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:32:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.145]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510213232.YWQB2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:32:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4281286C.6020402@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:32:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ? References: <46227195050509222659808e0c@mail.gmail.com> <4280998F.3050002@maynor.net> <4622719505051009006d481e6e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505051009006d481e6e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >Watching tv shows, it happens without fail. Watching the standard >news stations such as CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, etc. where they interview >people from all walks of life, it's rare to hear "and me". > >Are we witnessing a change in grammar from persistent, widespread use? > > Yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 16:42:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ALgXWm011504 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:42:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 16:42:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062C35B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:36:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 226542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:36:09 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ALa8D0023156 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:36:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.145]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510213608.ZECH2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:36:08 -0400 Message-ID: <42812943.8010606@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:36:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? References: <200505101727.j4AHRX5J015825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505101727.j4AHRX5J015825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >They've been going down for Memorial Day, Labor Day, New Year's, and > summer weekends for 30 years, and every year one or two new people come, >which keeps it interesting. > > In reading the description, I didn't know this was a private place. I thought it was a commercial place you paid to go use and to hunker up with strangers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 17:08:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AM83Wm015649 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:08:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:08:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F580B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:08:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 229036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:08:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AM82lr027178 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:08:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so35131nzo for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.6 with SMTP id k6mr23482nzk; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=X0xjwKzCLBuF26/2aYIB7noAcLd6vh1XAaIKnqCpoG7bk8PYEhrxPHVl/a+fDiRCPvymUIE2VQa/Uj1AAvLT85kyXXG4nIUdigaj5mIqNLg+HuPF2/tCV0y3jjYXzfMlP9DpuLBdsUuTZWc76PAyyAaRivypDz9EDSj/b3j/oE8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051015083619e9c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:08:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4AM83Wm015649 On 5/10/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I feel like such a Luddite. I've never visited a an online bank -- or > at least not as a customer. I've occasionally browsed them out of > curiosity for things like interest rates. You *are* a Luddite. I can't remember the last time I visited a B&M bank. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 17:09:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AM9iWm015857 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:09:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:09:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062C44D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:49:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:49:40 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ALneBU024394 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:49:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.145]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510214940.HOZ2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:49:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:49:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Yep. I never enter an online bank site without having run a spyware > detector first. This I've made a rule for myself. And thus I use only > one computer, this one at my disposal in the office, to visit the bank > site. I feel like such a Luddite. I've never visited a an online bank -- or at least not as a customer. I've occasionally browsed them out of curiosity for things like interest rates. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 17:10:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AM9iWm015858 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:09:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:10:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062C3A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:52:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:52:31 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ALqU6X024757 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:52:30 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 102632730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 14:52:30 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510144210.02fe9600@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:52:29 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Speaking of Last Days Onboard In-Reply-To: <428129DD.8030600@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:38 PM 5/10/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>May 20th, but I've been leaving early all month. So many parties. So >>many >>lunches. On my way to The Faculty Club now to meet some retired >>folks. http://www.berkeleyfacultyclub.com/ > >Did you have fun? Yes, it was great. The food has greatly improved since we used to go regularly.They are all coming to the party at work next week. >I'm impressed with the Chancellor Hotel. A friendly person from there >called me this afternoon to confirm that I was still planning on >arriving Thursday. I said that indeed I am. Wow! Will you take the Cable car to the wharf? You are so close to lots of things to do and see. My son, Ryan, has volunteered to make BART runs. He has his degree in linguistics and I've told him about you. Well, not everything about you. Friends have arrived from Texas and they rented a car and are in Carmel right now. I should have taken this week off. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 17:28:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AMSDWm017960 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:28:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:28:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062C4A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:28:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 229643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:28:13 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AMICtf028046 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:18:13 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4AMI6ja026683 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:18:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:18:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: miscellany re $ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Somebody wrote: Maybe the locals are "particularly untrustworthy" in Barcelona these days. That is what all the major guidebooks and many websites say. I have read Lonely Planet, National Geograpic, and AAA books and looked at other books - and looked at many websites. In general they suggest that theft starts at the airport as sleepy tourists are not keeping a watchful eye on luggage, etc. But I now feel well-prepared. Natalie, if you carried two credit cards, as I always do, surely you would no carry them in the same bag/moneybelt/whatever. I always divide up cards/money, etc. - so that if I get ripped off, I have another source of cash/credit, etc. I have forgotten how the gypsies got your purse or wallet - where/how were you carrying it? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 17:51:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AMp1Wm020707 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:51:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 17:51:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062C4FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:51:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:51:01 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AMp0Ke031371 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:51:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.145]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510225101.NBHM2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:51:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42813ACF.1060905@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:50:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Last Days Onboard References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510144210.02fe9600@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510144210.02fe9600@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Wow! Will you take the Cable car to the wharf? You are so close to > lots > of things to do and see. I don't know yet what I'll do. The problem is that by the time I get oriented and figure out what all I want to do, the trip will be over! Wish now I were staying an extra day, either on the front or the back of the trip. Then again, I was just looking at pictures/descriptions of animals needing homes (something I try to refrain from looking at but sometimes do anyway) and read this about one of them: "Katie Sue was taken to North State Animal Hospital where she stayed for 5 weeks while her neck healed and the hair grew back over the former injury. She was given all of her vaccinations, spayed, put on heartworm preventative and adored by the staff. But living in a clinic is lonely. The staff goes home at the end of the day and no one comes by to reassure you that good things happen to good dogs." My heart wrenched a bit at the last two sentences. North State Animal Hospital is where Spencer stays when I travel. He's going there tomorrow to stay until next Monday. I'm going to try to make him understand that this trip is very short -- that it won't be as long as when I went to Japan in March. Speaking of dogs, there go Mrs. Crook and Benji (down the street -- I can see them through my window). Mrs. Crook is the little old lady around the corner who was tied to the floor by the car thieves several months ago. According to one of my neighbors, she said that the thieves were very polite -- that as they tied her down, they assured her that they were not going to hurt her. And apparently they didn't. And her car was recovered in Yazoo City within a day or so. And now there's an old man walking a greyhound. I like my window at this time of day, which seems to be a popular dog-walking time. Anyway, I don't know yet about what I'll be doing in SF (other than meeting Mylesykins at the top of a high building) and then on Saturday getting on BART at Powell Street and heading to El Cerrito del Norte. > My son, Ryan, has volunteered to make BART runs. Neat! Tell me again where those pictures are that you took when camping last summer (?) so that I can look at his picture and recognize him. And you can tell him that I'll be the plucked chicken. I have a haircut appointment for late tomorrow afternoon -- am trying to do the eight-week thing, meaning it's VERY short at first and then (like right now) wild and scraggly. I can, of course, give identifying clothes info when I call from BART when approaching. Right now I haven't any idea what I'll have on since I still haven't figured out this strange weather situation. > He has his degree in linguistics and I've told him about you. Well, not Excellent. He and I can discuss sememes or whatever -- except that I don't anymore. So maybe instead we can discuss the geological factors that make California weather weird or debit cards vs credit cards or eggslots or Godel's Theorem or whatever. > everything about you. Friends have arrived from Texas and they rented a > car and are in Carmel right now. I should have taken this week off. This is all exciting! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 18:06:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4AN6cWm022613 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:06:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:06:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062C5BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:56:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:56:38 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AMuceu031938 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:56:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.145]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510225638.NMWR2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:56:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42813C21.2050909@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:56:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051015083619e9c8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051015083619e9c8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >You *are* a Luddite. I can't remember the last time I visited a B&M bank. > > Does your computer spit cash out of the printer or out of the CPU? I go to the ATM at my b&m bank when I need cash. And what about a sd-box? Is it within your computer somehow? That's the only other reason I ever go to my bank. (Eek -- I lie! I went inside the bank today, for the first time in eons. I did that because I was about to get money out of the ATM but couldn't remember what the ATM limit is and decided it would be easier to go inside and write a check and ask for some $2 bills, which you can't get from the ATM. I love $2 bills.) Anyway, I readily admit that I'm a Luddite, but I'm nevertheless interested in how the two things I use a b&m bank for can be done re computer -- getting cash and putting stuff in my safe-deposit box (or removing stuff from it). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 18:29:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ANSvWm025468 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:28:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:29:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062C453@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:08:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:08:56 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4AN8ugK000851 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:08:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.145]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510230855.SXR2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:08:55 -0400 Message-ID: <42813F03.3030501@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:08:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: miscellany re $ References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Somebody wrote: Maybe the locals are "particularly untrustworthy" in >Barcelona these days. > >That is what all the major guidebooks and many websites say. I have read >Lonely Planet, National Geograpic, and AAA books and looked at other >books - and looked at many websites. In general they suggest that theft >starts at the airport as sleepy tourists are not keeping a watchful eye on >luggage, etc. > > So perhaps you need to lock your checked luggage upon retrieving it. Or is the new carry-on luggage all that you're taking? I detest carry-on luggage and don't use it at all unless I'm going somewhere for a very long stay (like to Japan for a year). The Barcelona airport didn't strike me as very the last time I was there. But that was over a year ago (February of '04). >Natalie, if you carried two credit cards, as I always do, surely you would >no carry them in the same bag/moneybelt/whatever. I always divide up >cards/money, etc. - so that if I get ripped off, I have another source of >cash/credit, etc. > > If I had needed a replacement Visa card, Visa would've provided one. I was, as I've said before, very much impressed by their services. >I have forgotten how the gypsies got your purse or wallet - where/how were >you carrying it? > > I was on the metro, talking to a friend, with my purse over my shoulder. The gypsies bumped by and whisked out the little travel wallet, something that would not have happened if I'd been alone. It was really dumb -- we were standing there speaking English, obvious targets, and not paying attention. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 18:43:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ANgxWm027407 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:43:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:43:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062C684@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:42:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 233758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:42:59 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ANgx6T003897 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:42:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.145]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510234259.PRFG2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:42:59 -0400 Message-ID: <428146FE.1060806@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:42:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Dogs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I found some of these funny: > > >actual newspaper ads: > > > > > >FREE YORKSHIRE TERRIER. 8 years old. Hateful little dog. Bites > > > > > >FREE PUPPIES: 1/2 Cocker Spaniel, 1/2 sneaky neighbor's dog. > > > > > >FREE PUPPIES... Part German Shepherd, part stupid dog > > > > > >FREE GERMAN SHEPHERD 85 lbs. Neutered. Speaks German. > > > > > >FOUND DIRTY WHITE DOG. Looks like a rat ... been out a > > >while..better be a reward. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 18:44:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ANilWm027617 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:44:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 18:44:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062C4CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:44:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 233849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:44:46 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ANikMQ004072 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:44:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.144.214.145]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050510234446.PULY2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:44:46 -0400 Message-ID: <4281476A.90901@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:44:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs References: <428146FE.1060806@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <428146FE.1060806@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I accidentally left out the last one: > > >COWS, CALVES: NEVER BRED.. Also 1 gay bull for sale. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 19:09:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B08rWm031177 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:08:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:09:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062C516@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:08:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:08:53 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ANwpVO005070 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:58:51 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4ANwjui012017 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:58:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 19:58:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: luggage/cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: So perhaps you need to lock your checked luggage upon retrieving it. Or is the new carry-on luggage all that you're taking? I detest carry-on luggage and don't use it at all unless I'm going somewhere for a very long stay (like to Japan for a year). The Barcelona airport didn't strike me as very the last time I was there. But that was over a year ago (February of '04). I plan to carry my new carryon suitcase and one additional bag - some sort of briefcase bag. What's to hate about carryon? When you arrive, you are ready to go. No looking for your luggage, waiting for it to be unloaded, etc. And i do not understand why you would use carryon for a longer trip - that is when I would need so much stuff that I would have to check some of it. Natalie: >If I had needed a replacement Visa card, Visa would've provided one. I was, as I've said before, very much impressed by their services. Great - but what if you had needed something immediately - before you could get in touch with your Visa company? I carry the second card as a backup. Natalie: I was on the metro, talking to a friend, with my purse over my shoulder. Thanks - all the books about Spain say not to carry a purse - and certainly not to carry it only over one's shoulder. I am not taking a purse. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 19:15:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B0FkWm032110 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:15:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:15:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062C6DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:15:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:15:46 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B0Fklq006482 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:15:46 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F58370@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:15:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200505110015.j4B0Fklq006482@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:15:45 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 10 May 2005 12:24:17 -0700, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Kristin Sarv wrote: >> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> >Occasionally a city -dweller will come down, who's >> never really been >> >exposed before to fresh air, sunshine, and >> wildlife. >> >A snake in the outhouse, the rustling of chipmunks >> in the leaves, >> >a hatch of gnats or craneflies, the gnawing of >> porcupines, > >You can hear porcupines gnaw? My, what big teeth they have. LOL! Yes, and use them to strip tree bark. Their system is built around eating things with a too-high mineral content and then needing to flush their systems of the buildup, which leaves them depleted and craving "salty" high mineral things more. So around human habitation, they're drawn to salty things... painted or oiled wood or metal, including the steps and porches of the camps, and painted tin cans. There was actually a warning at the parking spots for hiking trails for a while, because hikers would start back down the mountain only to find that the porcupines had gnawed the brakelines through. The "Tortoise Shell" camp across the street, which has been pretty much abandoned since the three old guy owners died intestate and left it to about 40 nieces and nephews who can't come to agreement, has a "porch" of about 20% of its wood flooring remaining, and our porch has a hole in the floor with clear teeth marks around the edge, right under the pheobe's nest. We later learned to paint our steps with a mixture of oil and cayenne pepper to discourage them. Of course, having porcupines so close drives the dogs crazy. We pulled 80 quills out of our golden retriever one time. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 19:33:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B0XIWm001151 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:33:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:33:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062C65C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:33:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:33:17 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B0NHOL007080 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:23:17 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4B0NC0o030315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 10 May 2005 20:23:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:23:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: espanol Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The BBC has a good website for basic espanol: http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/spanish/ Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 19:38:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B0bxWm001653 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:38:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:38:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062C722@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:37:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:37:59 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B0brSI008915 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:37:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F583CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:37:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200505110037.j4B0brSI008915@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:37:53 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: ? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 10 May 2005 16:32:28 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >phil paxton wrote: > >>Watching tv shows, it happens without fail. Watching the standard >>news stations such as CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, etc. where they interview >>people from all walks of life, it's rare to hear "and me". >> >>Are we witnessing a change in grammar from persistent, widespread use? >> >> >Yes. Nick Sobin says it's a grammatical virus, a "hypercorrection" of a prestige construction, in which the "correct" usage is grammatically less probable or stable than the street version, and so the rule is learned rather than part of the system. etc. I read this stuff about five years ago, same with Kiparsky on opacity and change, and I find it fascinatin'. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 19:40:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B0eHWm001970 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:40:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 19:40:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062C676@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:40:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:40:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B0eHZV009157 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:40:17 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F58423@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:40:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200505110040.j4B0eHZV009157@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:40:16 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 10 May 2005 16:36:03 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>They've been going down for Memorial Day, Labor Day, New Year's, and >> summer weekends for 30 years, and every year one or two new people come, >>which keeps it interesting. >> >> >In reading the description, I didn't know this was a private place. I >thought it was a commercial place you paid to go use and to hunker up >with strangers. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) LOL! I slapped the web page together in abt an hr one night last May, for some friends who were coming down for the first time. It's on my web page at SU (but not linked from the front page). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 20:21:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B1LQWm007484 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:21:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:21:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062C79C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:21:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:21:22 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B1LKFX013001 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:21:20 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.46]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511012119.IGIJ2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:21:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.46]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050511012119.JMRZ1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:21:19 -0400 Message-ID: <42815E0A.7090305@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:21:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: luggage/cards References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > What's to hate about carryon? When you arrive, you are >ready to go. No looking for your luggage, waiting for it to be unloaded, >etc. > Different strokes. I am always quite happy when my suitcase is checked and out of my way. I can then roam around the airport happily and get on the plane without carrying junk, etc. I'm very grateful for the service airlines provide in taking care of my luggage so that I don't have to mess with it myself. > And i do not understand why you would use carryon for a longer trip - >that is when I would need so much stuff that I would have to check some of >it. > > I said that is the only time I would use a carry-on. That is because of weight/size limits. When going somewhere for a year, I feel the need to take advantage of maximum allowable luggage limits. Thus in addition to two checked bags, I would take a carry-on. >>If I had needed a replacement Visa card, Visa would've provided one. I >> >> >was, as I've said before, very much impressed by their services. > >Great - but what if you had needed something immediately - before you >could get in touch with your Visa company? I carry the second card as a >backup. > > I guess I would've had to depend on the kindness of strangers (though actually in this case I was staying with a friend and thus wouldn't have had to rely on strangers). Since in my 62 years of life I've had the experience of a lost or stolen wallet only one time, it's not something I feel the need to . >Thanks - all the books about Spain say not to carry a purse - and > > I'm impressed with all the research you're doing. How long did you say you're staying? I was thinking it was only a few weeks. Your , however, lead me to believe that it's much longer than that. >certainly not to carry it only over one's shoulder. I am not taking a >purse. > > (Fwiw, I didn't find carrying a purse on my shoulder a problem at all in Spain last year, even when roaming around in the hordes of Carnival merry-makers.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 20:23:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B1NRWm007719 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:23:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:23:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062C7A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:23:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:23:27 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B1NRKg013188 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:23:27 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.46]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511012326.IKAA2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:23:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.46]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050511012326.JQCR1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:23:26 -0400 Message-ID: <42815E89.3070801@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:23:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? References: <200505110040.j4B0eHZV009157@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505110040.j4B0eHZV009157@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>In reading the description, I didn't know this was a private place. I >>thought it was a commercial place you paid to go use and to hunker up >>with strangers. >> >> > >LOL! >I slapped the web page together in abt an hr one night last May, >for some friends who were coming down for the first time. It's on >my web page at SU (but not linked from the front page). > > What's the url again? I'd like to look at it now that I know more about the situation. As I said, I thought that was a url for some kind of commercial establishment. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 20:36:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B1aBWm008872 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:36:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 20:36:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062C6F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:26:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:26:11 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B1QAcO013760 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:26:10 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.46]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511012610.IOMU2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:26:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.46]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050511012610.JUKX1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:26:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42815F2D.9060205@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:26:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: luggage/cards References: <42815E0A.7090305@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42815E0A.7090305@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On second thought re the dangers of Spain -- I just looked for the first time in ages at the pictures I took on my last trip there and saw that indeed things may be kind of scary: http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/Spain/revelers6.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 10 21:30:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B2UgWm015510 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:30:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:30:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062C756@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:30:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:30:42 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B2UgFU021362 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:30:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.175.46]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511023042.VQLK2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:30:42 -0400 Message-ID: <42816E4D.2020105@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:30:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Snake-Handling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I finally got around to ordering and reading _Salvation on Sand Mountain_, a tiny book I'd been meaning to read for ages since one branch of my ancestors came from Sand Mountain (but had left before the snake-handlers arrived). I'm not crazy about reading about snakes, but the book was nevertheless quite interesting, imho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From 7investmetn@nxmail.info Tue May 10 21:46:18 2005 Return-Path: <7investmetn@nxmail.info> Received: from nxmail.info (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B2k8Wn017309 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:46:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200505110246.j4B2k8Wn017309@gtoal.com> Received: from 209.203.195.73 ([209.203.195.73]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 21:46:17 CDT From: "Wall Street Update" <7investmetn@nxmail.info> Subject: FCDH Captures a BIG SLICE of the $1.2 BILLION Digital Television Market with their Crown Jewel- THE FIGHT NETWORK To: words-l@gtoal.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: 7investmetn@nxmail.info Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:46:19 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Market Strategies Presents,
"OTC: FCDH"

 In our previous feature less than three weeks ago we showed all of you Global Concepts Ltd (OTCBB: GCCP now GCCPE) at .042 cents, which today is currently trading at approximately .135 cents a gain of over 200 percent in less than 30 days, a $1000.00 trade would be worth over $3000.00 today, not bad for a couple of weeks. Congratulations to all of our readers that were savvy enough to act upon the opportunity and enjoy over a 200% gain. Our new profile FCDH on the over the counter exchange in our opinion could represent the same type of trading opportunity for all of our readers who are savvy enough to pull the trigger and step up to the plate on this one...... Remember you have to be in it to be a winner, you owe it to yourself to enjoy the opportunity so get in now on FCDH.

"GET READY TO RING THE BELL......"FCDH" IS ON A MISSION TO BE CROWNED THE WINNER AND CAPTURE A BIG SLICE OF THE $1.2 BILLION DIGITAL TELEVISION MARKET WITH THEIR CROWN JEWEL THE FIGHT NETWORK"

We urge all of our readers and subscribers to read this information on "FCDH" and wait for the bell to ring and then jump right into the market (Don't wait too long) this is a very real and significant opportunity for all of you to be crowned the winner and have a huge win under your belt. This company is very real and shares the ring with some heavy weight partners that have the ability to deliver the 1-2-3 knockout punch such as  "SHOWTIME BOXING" and many others. Why would a champion like "SHOWTIME" want to jump in on the action?   KEEP READING THIS IS A VERY POWERFUL PLAY THAT IS SET TO GIVE THE WWE (World Wrestling Entertainment) TRADING ON THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE AT $10.85 PER SHARE THE FIGHT OF THEIR LIFE.   FCDH is trading at just 30 cents per share and is set to jump into the ring and is ready to rumble like a champion that we all know that this company will be..... 

Everyday all of us see advertisements and promotions presenting companies for us to invest in that have absolutely no business being in business (if they even have a business) or for that matter having the audacity of being a public company. We all know that most of the time the promise of this company or that company going up 200%.... 400%.... or even 1000% in a day or week simply does not happen most of the time .... WILL IT HAPPEN WITH "FCDH"? This remains to be seen however this is one company that has a real and legitimate FIGHTING chance to be CROWNED THE WINNER BY ALL OF YOU. Look for lots of new PR forthcoming.

YOUR CHAMPION:

Blackout Communications is a multi-dimensional media company that has interests in digital television, radio and publishing with plans to expand into digital radio, gaming, live events and sponsorship. Presently Blackout Communications through its wholly owned subsidiary - The Fight Network Inc., Fight Network Radio Inc. and Blackout Publishing Inc. has started to assembly a core group of assets to exploit the world of combatant sports.

Through The Fight Network Inc., Blackout has acquired a 10 year broadcasting license from the Canadian Radio and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) to air a 24/7 digital combatant television network. Most resent revenues numbers from the CRTC puts the digital television market at $1.2 billion in 2004. The Fight Network will be working to take a slice of those revenues. The demographics that The Fight Network will be targeting are the most sought after group, being males 18 to 34 years of age.

In addition to its television network, Blackout through its wholly owned subsidiary - Fight Network Radio Inc. has recently acquired Law Audio Wrestling, more notably known as The LAW. The LAW has been on the airwaves/ internet for over 8 years and reports on the latest happenings in the worlds of pro wrestling and mixed martial arts. The show specializes in conducting weekly interviews with star performers and athletes from all fighting areas. Especially popular with listeners are the "shoot style" interviews with wrestlers who discuss their careers and issues "out of character". The LAW has conducted thousands of interviews over the years with the who's who of pro wrestling such as; Ric Flair, Steve Austin, Lou Thesz, Mick Foley, Kurt Angle, and Bret "The Hitman" Hart along with mixed martial arts superstars such as Ken Shamrock, Randy Coture, Chuck Liddell, and Tito Ortiz to name but a few. Additional information on the company can be found at www.liveaudiowrestling.com.

At present Blackout Publishing which is 100% owned by Blackout Communications is involved in the publishing and promotion of fight related books. At present they have 4 books which are under the Blackout banner. Future plans for the publishing division is to acquire more books in the fight related space and continue to offer them through traditional sales channels as well as through our online store. Blackout's future plans includes the possible acquisition of online content provides in the MMA and boxing space as well as developing more media related assets in the combatant sports arena. Currently Blackout is working with companies and individuals in the media industries to create and develop strategic and marketing alliances. Through these types of joint ventures and alliances we believe we will be able to make immediate and significant inroads into these industries resulting in immediate and long-term revenue streams for the company. In addition to broadcasting in Canada, future broadcasting plans includes entering the U.S. market and eventually expanding the brand and its media offerings to Europe and Asia.

Blackout's long term goals and philosophy is to be the Number 1 source in North America for all combatant sports and the ultimate destination of combatant sports fans, whether it be pro wrestling, boxing, mixed martial arts or kickboxing. If you need to know about them you will find it at The Fight Network.

WHY FCDH IS YOUR NEW CHAMPION:

. Digital TV continues to grow according to Nielson Media Research, Viewing among 2 plus persons increased to 30.7% in 2003 from 16.8% in 1996  

. Conventional broadcasters have seen their share of viewing decline to 47.4% in 2003 from 60.1% (Marketing Magazine).

. 24/7 television dedicated to giving the audience what they want 365 days a year delivering the best content on Wrestling, Boxing, mixed Martial arts along with top notch "fight theme" movies and documentaries, making it the ultimate television network.

. FCDH has all aspects of the media covered with television, radio and the web.

. $40 million in Pay-Per-View revenues per year in wrestling alone, more than 10 million viewers every week tune into HBO, Showtime, ESPN.

. Exclusive Mixed Martial Arts coverage which is the fastest growing of the combatant sport genres.

. Top television scheduling that all of the majors are sure to be envious of.

We are anticipating that there will be a lot of record breaking PR forthcoming on our champion OTC: FCDH.  keep your eyes close to the ring on this one!!!!  This is surely one fight that you will not want to miss.... "FCDH" is trading at only 30 cents per share and offers all of you the opportunity of being crowned the champ once the bell rings..................  


Information within this email contains" forward looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21B of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Any statements that express or involve with respect to predictions, goals, expectations, beliefs, plans, projections, objectives, assumptions or future events or performance are not statements of historical fact and maybe "forward looking statements.

Forward looking statements are based on expectations, estimates and projections at the time the statements are made that involve a number of risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results or events to differ materially from those presently anticipated. Forward looking statements in this action may be identified through the use of words such as: "projects", "foresee"," expects", "estimates," "believes," understands" "will," "part of:" anticipates," or that by statements  indicating certain actions "may," could," or "might" occur.

All information provided within this email pertaining to investing, stocks, securities must be understood as information provided and not investment advice. We advise all readers and subscribers to seek advice from a registered professional securities representative before deciding to trade in stocks featured within this email. None of the material within this report shall be construed as any kind of investment advice. Please have in mind that the interpretation of the writer of this newsletter about the news published by the company does not represent the company official statement and in fact may differ from the real meaning of what the news release meant to say. Look at the news releases by yourself and judge by yourself about the details in it.

In compliance with Section 17(b), we disclose the holding of FCDH shares prior to the publication of this report. Be aware of an inherent conflict of interest resulting from such holdings due to our intent to profit from the liquidation of these shares. Shares may be sold at any time, even after positive statements have been made regarding the above company.

Please be advised that nothing within this email shall constitute a solicitation or an invitation to get position in or sell any security mentioned herein. This newsletter is neither a registered investment advisor nor affiliated with any broker or dealer. This newsletter has received payment of 2 million shares from a third party to send this report.  All statements made are our express opinion only and should be treated as such. We may own, take position and sell any securities mentioned at any time. This report includes forward-looking statements within the meaning of The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements may include terms as "expect"," believe", "may", "will", "move"," undervalued" and "intend" or similar terms. The content contained in this letter has been compiled from information in public record.




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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 00:12:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B5CYWm003178 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:12:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:12:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062D6BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 1:12:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:12:34 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B5BOA9004315 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:11:24 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F59434@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 1:11:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200505110511.j4B5BOA9004315@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 01:11:23 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: luggage/cards To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 10 May 2005 20:26:05 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >On second thought re the dangers of Spain -- I just looked for the first >time in ages at the pictures I took on my last trip there and saw that >indeed things may be kind of scary: > >http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/Spain/revelers6.jpg > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Either I'm in an unusually cheerful mood tonight, or that's cute. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 00:43:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B5h5Wm006420 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:43:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:43:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062D989@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 1:43:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:43:04 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B5h4TE006711 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:43:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19137726 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:00:04 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 22:43:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:43:09 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <908170047.20050510234309@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Taiwan In-Reply-To: <20050510130832.GA53221@words-l.org> References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> <1348374112.20050510011439@gailndan.com> <16710281724.20050510065929@gailndan.com> <20050510130832.GA53221@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 193, in=67442, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 7:08 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> A guy needs something to hold on to. DMH> What a wonderful tribute! Thank you for the kind words. They're always appreciated. And my apologies to anyone who was offended by my usage of gender specific language. It should have said "a guy or a girl needs something to hold on to" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 00:47:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B5lSWm007149 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:47:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:47:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062D7F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 1:47:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:47:28 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B5lRiU006967 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:47:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19421942 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:47:49 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 22:47:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:47:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <49376174.20050510234733@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 191, in=66313, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 7:39 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> How do you pay for your credit-card charges? Do you NM> take a wad of cash NM> to the payment place? If so, where does that cash NM> come from? Either write and mail a check, or do an online transfer from a checking account. NM> Do you NM> keep it under your mattress? In my world, using a NM> bank for money for NM> ordinary expenses is normal. My bank account is NM> debited regularly since NM> that's where I keep my money. It's debited once a NM> month for bills like NM> gas, electricity, Visa, etc. It's debited at NM> irregular intervals (as in NM> when I do these things) for things I do at irregular NM> intervals, like NM> using the ATM or writing checks. Ah ha!! What you're saying then is that it is a credit card, and you have it set up for "auto bill payment" (or whatever you and they call it) to be automatically paid from your checking account. OK...NOW it makes sense. NM> If my Visa card is considered a "debit card," why NM> does it work when I NM> click on "credit" rather than "debit" when sliding NM> it in grocery stores, NM> etc? I thought "debit cards" required PINs. Mine NM> has no PIN. Usually. Depends on how and when used. NM> And the NM> bank that issued it refers to it as a "credit card," NM> as does Northwest NM> Airlines (it's a "Northwest Airlines Worldperks NM> Visa"). But I'm sure NM> you know best. Now that you've explained it. In other words the money is NOT immediately coming out of your account. That is the difference. Plus you have a number of protections with a credit card that you don't with a debit card. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 00:49:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B5nQWm007326 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:49:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:49:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062D9BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 1:49:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:49:25 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B5nPxZ007098 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:49:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19422016 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:49:47 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 22:49:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:49:31 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1573608287.20050510234931@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <4280BBC2.9090704@maynor.net> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280BBC2.9090704@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 191, in=66314, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 7:48 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I don't NM> see why there would be any advantage to having NM> over the NM> specific date to pay a bill. Like why would it be NM> advantageous for me NM> to write a check to Visa on say May 10 instead of NM> just letting Visa grab NM> the money at the last possible moment, like maybe NM> May 20? Because for those extra days your money is somewhere other than in your checking account....it is somewhere earning money. And you transfer it in the day you do another transaction to pay something from the account. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 00:50:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B5oSWm007453 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:50:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:50:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062D9CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 1:50:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:50:28 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B5oRXf007192 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:50:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19247376 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:53:40 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 22:50:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:50:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1312221864.20050510235033@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280BC39.5010908@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B2DB.3050207@akad.ee> <4280BC39.5010908@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=79950, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 7:50 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan apparently keeps cash under his mattress -- NM> money that never visits NM> a bank. Nope, keep cash in my wallet. Have anywhere from 20 to 200 in there at a given time. And keep change in the ashtray of my car, handy for drive thrus and such. No other cash around. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:12:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6BwWm010469 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:12:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062D857@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 1:57:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:57:46 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B5vjVJ007740 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:57:45 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19422260 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:58:07 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 22:58:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:57:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 191, in=66316, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 8:26 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> I thought "debit cards" required PINs. >> Mine has no PIN. KS> Mine has. How can you prove in a shop or hotel, if KS> needed, that this is KS> your card you are using? They require a PIN in a FTF transaction. They don't on the web, for example. Of course you're stupid to use a debit card on the web, instead of credit card, since you have NO protection against fraud. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:12:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6BwWm010470 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:12:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062D9C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:01:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:01:15 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B61F9V008696 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:01:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19436027 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:31:13 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:01:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:01:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <452376931.20050511000121@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051007422c8b5260@mail.gmail.com> References: <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705051007422c8b5260@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 189, in=69287, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 8:42 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> My credit card does have a pin--as does my debit AFoA> card. Of course it does. Both do. And it can be the same pin if you have a card that works as both. Of course Natalie may have never set up the pin on her credit card, or doesn't know what it is...which doesn't matter unless she wants cash from an ATM. AFoA> There's also a AFoA> 3-digit security number for the debit card (which is AFoA> really for the Visa AFoA> part of it, so for the credit-card part of the debit AFoA> card). Yeah, the three digit number on back of card (and four digits on front, non-raised characters on AmEx) are to prove that the person has the card in hand...and that they didn't just grab the numbers from an imprint etc. AFoA> IOW, it's fuzzier than Natalie thinks it is. The AFoA> only differentiating factor AFoA> is credit vs. debit. Indeed. Thanks for understanding, even if Natalie doesn't. Maybe she does by now. And she thinks that she has all the answers..... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6BwWm010471 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:12:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062D8D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:03:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:03:42 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B63f8w008906 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:03:42 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19247777 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:06:55 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:04:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:03:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <489616280.20050511000348@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <4280C9B3.6060007@akad.ee> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <4280C9B3.6060007@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=79954, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 8:48 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> That's how I understand it as well. Never saw an ATM KS> card, only have KS> read about it in this service, but my everyday card KS> is a debit card Some Americans still use the antiquated term "ATM card" for a debit card. The ATM Card term was in vogue in late 70s to early 80s when banks started issuing their own ATM cards good only at that chain of banks. Of course they eventually merged together, and tied it all in with Visa and MC and Amex so now ONE CARD can do credit or debit, and to buy something or get cash, or both in one transaction. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6BwWm010468 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:12:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062D94B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 1:55:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:55:16 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B5tGkR007552 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:55:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19422182 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:55:38 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 22:55:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:55:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1907354996.20050510235522@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 191, in=66315, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 7:57 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> (Dan chooses to use the NM> term "debit card" for a credit card that is paid by NM> bank-draft. I don't NM> think you should assume that is the norm in the US, NM> though. I think NM> it's unique to Dan -- or maybe to Idaho in general. Natalie, natalie, natalie.... A debit card takes the money IMMEDIATELY from your bank account. A credit card is a loan from the bank, and you pay it when and how you want. You choose to pay it automatically from your checking account. It, just to confuse you further, is also possible to have the SAME card be BOTH CREDIT and DEBIT, depending on the options you choose when swiping it. One way it charges it, and you can pay it when you will. The other way it takes the money out (i.e. debits) your checking immediately. Don't need two cards. And if you choose to call any of the three types of cards an "ATM card", that's fine, as any of them can get money from an ATM. Again, depending on the card and the choice you make, it'll come out of one pocket or the other. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:12:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6BwWn010469 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:12:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:12:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062D8E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:04:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:04:39 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B64cOD009025 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:04:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19138439 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:21:39 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:04:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:04:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1103729142.20050511000444@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280CC57.1020807@akad.ee> References: <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> <4280CC57.1020807@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 193, in=67447, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 8:59 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> In most places where I pay with my debit KS> card PIN is not KS> asked for. I need PIN when taking cash from money KS> machines/bank KS> automates, and also in some shops to pay with it. Same here. Normally only want PIN (on credit OR debit card) if you're getting cash back. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6BwWm010466 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:12:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062D9D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 1:51:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:51:57 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B5pu0B007299 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:51:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19247413 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:55:09 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 22:52:17 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:52:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1539392948.20050510235202@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051006545865d374@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051006545865d374@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=79951, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 7:54 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> No matter WTF you choose to call it, if it is >> debiting your bank >> account, it is a debit card. >> AFoA> So they don't have automatic bill pay in Idaho? Talk AFoA> about your sheltered AFoA> existence... As I'm sure you've seen by now Natalie was confounding the two by talking about things coming directly out of her checking account, rather than using her credit card and then having IT paid from her checking account monthly. She has finally made it clear...which is typical for Natalie. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:32:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6VmWm012837 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:31:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:32:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062D9BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:30:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:30:02 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6U0A7011176 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:30:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19423154 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:30:22 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:30:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:30:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1583496627.20050511003006@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before I Forget In-Reply-To: <462271950505100925373bb15f@mail.gmail.com> References: <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050510072769ca2381@mail.gmail.com> <4280CD81.7080203@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100836162479c6@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505100925373bb15f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 191, in=66319, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 10:25 AM, phil paxton wrote: pp> Anyone need Google Gmail accounts? Sure, send me four, please. Not sure if/when I'll use them, or why I'd care about them over yahoomail accounts....but since everyone and their mother is gaga over them, I need to learn about them to support some of my users. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:32:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6VmWm012839 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:31:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:32:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062D995@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:23:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:23:06 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6N5gi010387 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:23:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19138899 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:40:06 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:23:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:23:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <369684109.20050511002312@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280CEC5.3000601@maynor.net> References: <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> <4280CC57.1020807@akad.ee> <4280CEC5.3000601@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 193, in=67451, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 9:09 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I didn't know that would even NM> work (though I know NM> one can walk into a bank and get cash on a credit NM> card -- or at least NM> could back in the old days, before ATMs existed). As noted in this whole extended thread, there are several things you didn't know about credit/debit/ATM cards. Of course if you don't know your credit card's PIN, you can't get cash on it, at least from a machine. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:32:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6VmWm012833 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:31:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:32:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062DAB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:25:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:25:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6PYuM010769 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:25:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so136938nzo for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.18 with SMTP id h18mr79728nzc; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:25:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=E+Y1eCQmoBjfETpNDa+gqV/D1c5CPOg0ntpr0rEsn4Apycosv8gL207dfFjI2PlxCjdl9XhLn6egQMcuOB8YwKAvqe9fGzmfuiAUynKIwNjc6CBRJ/xWoxk56JY1iTJaVOSTPIXZHwEaPgIcCc1NfKwVHgi8Le2id8oxGSceYXI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505102325dc27780@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 01:25:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4B6VmWm012833 On 5/11/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > They require a PIN in a FTF transaction. They don't on the web, for > example. Of course you're stupid to use a debit card on the web, > instead of credit card, since you have NO protection against fraud. > I would say that you are stupid to do business with fraudulent businesses. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:32:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6VmWm012838 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:31:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:32:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062DB3F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:21:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:21:47 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6Ll4H010280 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:21:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19248531 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:25:00 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:22:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:21:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <152322118.20050511002153@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <4280CD81.7080203@maynor.net> References: <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050510072769ca2381@mail.gmail.com> <4280CD81.7080203@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=79955, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 9:04 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> That makes me wonder why the machines ask that NM> question. What's the NM> point of asking if the machine automatically knows NM> which it is? MANY of us have cards that are both credit and debit, so it needs to know which you're feature you're using. Also, AFAIK, either type will ask for PIN if you're getting cash (either back in a store, or from a machine). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:33:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6WvWm012913 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:32:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:33:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062D9C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:32:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:32:56 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6WuYw011611 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:32:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19248815 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:36:09 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:33:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:33:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1874457697.20050511003302@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=79956, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 11:07 AM, phil paxton wrote: pp> Lately, some of the larger banks have been phished pp> as well. And a number of smaller ones. In fact, one of the local credit unions was phished too. Can't trust anyone anywhere. Of course ALL financial institutions will let you know that they don't do that kind of thing. What irritated some of my colleagues who have accounts at the credit union in question (we use a different one) was that when they told the credit union they seemed to not give a damn. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:35:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6YrWm013120 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:34:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:35:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062D9C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:34:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:34:48 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6YlY8011774 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:34:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19436980 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:04:36 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:34:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:34:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1401011964.20050511003443@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Speaking of Last Days Onboard In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <4280A4C4.6050604@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 189, in=69290, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 11:48 AM, Betty Clark wrote: BC> May 20th, but I've been leaving early all month. So BC> many parties. So many BC> lunches. Right. What are they gonna do, fire you? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:37:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6bIWm013374 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:37:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:37:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062DB7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:37:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:37:18 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6bHAl012049 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:37:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19423339 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:37:39 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:37:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:37:23 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <322471523.20050511003723@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <4281063A.3060706@akad.ee> References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <001201c5558b$5e5c9cb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4281063A.3060706@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 191, in=66320, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 1:06 PM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> Yes. However friendly and polite the message may KS> seem. That kind of KS> cheatings here have been very clumsy and full of KS> writing mistakes so far Yes, most are written in atrocious English, awful spelling, etc. But also consider that those dumb enough to fall for that crap probably wouldn't know bad grammar or spelling if it bit them in the ass. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:40:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6ecWm013677 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:40:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:40:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062DAE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:40:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:40:38 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6ebxs012442 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:40:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19249018 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:43:51 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:40:58 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:40:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <437205385.20050511004044@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <20050510192417.73357.qmail@web60712.mail.yahoo.com> References: 6667 <20050510192417.73357.qmail@web60712.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=79957, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 1:24 PM, Lynne Weber wrote: LW> You can hear porcupines gnaw? My, what big teeth LW> they have. Can't personally testify to porkies (though did hit one on a Colorado highway once in middle of night...and damn he was big), but sure can to beavers. Sometimes when walk out of library can hear them on the river (fifty feet away, maybe) working on the trees that don't have chickenwire around them, or on which the beavers have actually ripped the chickenwire off. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:45:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6jVWm014234 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:45:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:45:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062DB0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:45:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:45:31 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6jUXo012967 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:45:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19437304 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:15:29 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:45:50 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:45:36 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <732679369.20050511004536@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <46227195050510124047400bc3@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <001201c5558b$5e5c9cb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4281063A.3060706@akad.ee> <46227195050510124047400bc3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 189, in=69292, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ah Hah....went to Taylor. and know your current community a bit from visits to cousins in Noblesville and vicinity. 5/10/2005, 1:40 PM, phil paxton wrote: pp> (you'll have to scroll the detail bar on the left) pp> Born: pp> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=wabash,+indiana&hl=en pp> Raised: http://tinyurl.com/duwuv pp> College: http://tinyurl.com/aylpf pp> Now: http://tinyurl.com/9ejq4 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 01:47:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B6kpWm014413 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:46:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 01:47:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062DA0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:46:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:46:51 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6koCI013055 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:46:50 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19249154 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:50:04 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:47:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:46:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=79959, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 3:49 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I feel like such a Luddite. I've never visited a an NM> online bank -- or NM> at least not as a customer. I've occasionally NM> browsed them out of NM> curiosity for things like interest rates. Well, I'll bet that you can do your banking online too...even in Mississippi, which we all know is MUCH more advanced than Idaho. Uh huh. Sure. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 02:12:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B7CdWm018391 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:12:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:12:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F595DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:42:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:42:38 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6gbUS012596 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:42:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19249052 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:45:51 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:42:58 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:42:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <97103932.20050511004244@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <46227195050510124047400bc3@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <001201c5558b$5e5c9cb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4281063A.3060706@akad.ee> <46227195050510124047400bc3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=79958, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 1:40 PM, phil paxton wrote: pp> This is because anyone who knows them well enough to pp> email them knows pp> they do not accept anything but plain text. Useful idea, but several things I DO want come in HTML only. And then there are the relatives and such who wouldn't know how to do plain text if they had to, AND I explained it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 02:12:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B7CdWm018390 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:12:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:12:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F59632@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:52:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:52:11 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6qAiH013642 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:52:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19139626 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:09:11 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:52:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:52:16 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1803414794.20050511005216@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: miscellany re $ In-Reply-To: <42813F03.3030501@maynor.net> References: <42813F03.3030501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 193, in=67456, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 5:08 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> If I had needed a replacement Visa card, Visa NM> would've provided one. I NM> was, as I've said before, very much impressed by NM> their services. Yes, but would still be an extra hassle. If you had another card you'd not be without one at all. They could just send the new one to you back home, or deliver it to you in a day or two. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 02:21:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B7L1Wm019425 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:21:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:21:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062DBF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:50:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:50:59 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6owok013568 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:50:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19249241 for ; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:54:12 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:51:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:51:04 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <773126867.20050511005104@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: miscellany re $ In-Reply-To: <42813F03.3030501@maynor.net> References: <42813F03.3030501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=79960, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/10/2005, 5:08 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> The Barcelona NM> airport didn't NM> strike me as very the last time I was NM> there. But that was NM> over a year ago (February of '04). Seemed the same to me six months earlier. And if you want to think dangerous, I could name some in USA that I'd put much higher on list than Barcelona or Berlin or Venice or lots of others. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 02:21:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B7L1Wm019427 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:21:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:21:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062DC2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:57:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:57:49 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6vmH3014074 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:57:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19249400 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:01:02 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 10 May 2005 23:58:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:57:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1054644787.20050511005755@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505102325dc27780@mail.gmail.com> References: <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505102325dc27780@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 194, in=79961, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 12:25 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Of course you're stupid to use a debit >> card on the web, >> instead of credit card, since you have NO >> protection against fraud. >> AFoA> I would say that you are stupid to do business with AFoA> fraudulent businesses. Well,I've not been burned on the net yet....but know a number who have with fraudulent ebay transactions. And they pay for the new computer or tires or whatever with credit card and never get merchandise. Well,was slightly burned once....have bought over a thousand postcards on ebay, and almost always pay with cash (easiest for both sides if it is something like four bucks)...and one asshole in oz never sent me the card. So I was out six bucks. Several more emails, etc, never got anything, so wrote it off. No big deal. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 02:21:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B7L1Wm019428 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:21:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:21:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062DA84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 2:59:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:59:57 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B6xtgh014215 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:59:56 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4B6xsj4007418 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:59:54 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sales pitch continued In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 10 May 2005 06:59:32 CDT." <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:59:54 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I feel sorry for my uncle, who stupidly published a book with a vanity >press, thinking he would make money. It's not the kind of vanity press >that charges authors to publish their books -- iow, the venture didn't >cost him anything. But it's the kind that publishes anything anybody >submits and that does not do anything to promote the book. And, of >course, knowledgeable book people recognize the publisher as what it is >and thus in most cases wouldn't bother to buy the book, even if they >could find it, which is another problem since it's one of these >print-on-demand operations. I hadn't heard of "Publish America" before, but it seems a pretty shady operation (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25187-2005Jan20). This is of course compatible with many of their authors being very pleased with what they get. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 03:25:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B8P5Wm027984 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 03:25:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 03:25:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062DD5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 4:25:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:25:05 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B8P0Wb029834 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:25:01 -0400 Received: from mxfep02 ([195.54.107.73] [195.54.107.73]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050511082459.BHUV9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:24:59 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: , , , , , , , Subject: Taipei, day 2 (warning: long!) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:24:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050511082459.BHUV9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (I promise the other days won't be this long!) Dan's 49th birthday! It took me a few minutes after waking up to wish him a happy birthday because I was so freakin' tired but luckily he'd forgotten it was his birthday! Today I was on my own to explore the city of Taipei. Since I am a pitiful tourist, I hadn't looked into what there was to see but Dan had a book of all the museums in Taipei so I paged through it to see if anything ticked my fancy. Something did - the Grand Crystal Museum. The directions to the museum looked very easy to follow and I love art glass. So I packed my backpack and strapped on my Guggenheimers (for those not familiar with my family's secret language, Guggenheimers are Birkenstock sandals) and headed for the subway! The Taipei subway is very new (opened 2000), clean and easy to use. All the signs are in Chinese and English and the ticket machines are user-friendly. The book said to take the subway to Kuandu Station. Hmmm...Kuandu, Kuandu....there is no Kuandu Station. Think Marcia, think! Oh look! There is a Guandu Station. That must be it. Eh, and what could be the worst thing that happens? It ain't right and I just look around the area a bit and then take the subway back. So I took the subway and most of the way it is above ground, which was nice because it is a great way to see the city. I could see that there is a 7-11 on every street corner (only a mild exaggeration) and a few Domino's Pizza places. The apartment buildings are interesting. They all have balconies that have wrought iron all around them, like a cage. I speculated that it is so cats could go out and get fresh air, without worries. Dan speculated that it is because of the typhoons so windows don't get broken. I think I'm right :-) Anyhow...I got to Guandu/Kuandu Station and wondered if I really did end up in the wrong spot. The area was run-down and there was an abandoned lot full of trash. But yet as I followed the directions, it seemed right. And boom! There it was - a tiny little building in the middle of an industrial area. I walked in and there was nobody there. I waited and waited to buy a ticket. I finally followed some voices and asked to buy a ticket. The three people behind the counter didn't know any English but called out for someone and a woman came rushing in and asked me with a tone of surprise in her voice, "You want to buy a ticket? How did you find this place?!" I told her it was in a guide book. I guess they don't get many tourists there. The museum had two floors and was very small. I was instructed to start on the second floor, where there was an exhibition of Czech art glass. I felt like a little kid in a candy store. Everything was so tactile and I wanted to touch it but the sign said no touching and no photography. Even though I was completely alone, I did like they instructed. With my luck, if I broke the rules, I'd end up breaking some glass along with them. But I have to admit I got really close from all angles and was probably talking to myself out loud. The permanent collection was also very small but good for its size. The famous Swedish glass artist, Bertil Vallien, was represented. Then there was the gift shop. Argh! I need to become a millionaire!!!!! There was a most gorgeous bonsai in glass that cost 1.5 million Taiwanese dollars, approximately 45,200 American dollars. There were lots of art glass pieces in all prices ranges but I ended up buying a Chinese style necklace with a green glass pendant of two frogs kissing. They had lots of pendants that reminded me of the Japanese netsuke, that you may have seen on the British Antiques Roadshow. Back to the subway and to the hotel, to plan my next move. Ok, I'm hungry and it is now 14:30. Unfortunately for those of us who get a late start every day, almost all of the restaurants close from 14:00 to 17:00. I went up and down the side streets, looking for something vegetarian but wasn't having much luck. I wasn't sure if I dared eat from one of the many stands lining the streets but I was really starved. I found one where the glass noodles looked vegetarian but I took out my piece of paper that said I was a vegetarian just to be sure. The old gentleman just looked at it strangely and set it aside. Then it hit me. He couldn't read. I felt like an idiot and took a big portion of glass noodles. They were very yummy, no meat and very cheap! I decided to take a walk along the busy street where the hotel was. We needed umbrellas and it was a chance to explore the area. Marcia the shoe maven struck again. I didn't expect to be able to find a pair of shoes that would fit but there were a pair of Mary Janes (sort of) that I just had to have. I asked for the biggest size they had and they fit!!! Picked up some umbrellas, some presents for Dan, including a bag of cashews (Dan LOVES cashews) and some Taiwan beer and went back to the hotel. I know everyone's eyes must be bleeding by now so I'll make the rest of the day quite short. Johnson had other business partners visiting from Israel and had to take them out to dinner. Lars opted to go along with them because he didn't want veggie food. So Martin was supposed to entertain Dan and me. No thanks! Dan told them that it was his birthday and said since plans had changed, we'd appreciate being alone. Dan worked so late and restaurants close early here so we ended up at the Japanese restaurant in the hotel and then we went for a walk and were tourists in our special way (I'll explain that in the next letter). I wasn't so smart and wore my new shoes. Hello blisters! Slept very well that night! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 04:07:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B97nWm001256 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:07:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:07:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062DF46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 5:07:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 272625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 05:07:48 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4B97lsF002556 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 05:07:48 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051111041032033 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:04:11 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 11 May 2005 11:05:18 +0200 Message-ID: <4281CACE.9020505@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:05:18 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> In-Reply-To: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 09:05:18.0865 (UTC) FILETIME=[8DCC9810:01C55608] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen skrev 09.05.2005 11:04: >For those who are interested, the Taiwan pictures are up on my photo >site, http://www.mfranzen.photosite.com/RayofSunshine/. They are >in chapter 5. For those who aren't, ignore this e-mail. > > " Sorry, the page you requested does not exist or has been moved." Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 04:14:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4B9ECWm001720 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:14:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:14:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062DE48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 5:14:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 272763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 05:14:12 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4B9E9t8002980 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 05:14:10 -0400 Received: from mxfep02 ([195.54.107.73] [195.54.107.73]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050511091409.BQBW9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:14:09 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:14:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050511091409.BQBW9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > " Sorry, the page you requested does not exist or has been moved." > > Espen That is because I just updated from their free site to one that costs a little and I got to choose my own name so as of about a half hour ago, my photosite's name is www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com So if any of you have bookmarked it, change your bookmark! Sorry, Espen! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 06:17:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BBHmWm020829 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:17:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:17:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E1C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 7:17:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:17:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BB7l5G003569 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:07:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 39575 invoked by uid 1003); 11 May 2005 11:07:46 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:07:46 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% Message-ID: <20050511110746.GA29916@words-l.org> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <1907354996.20050510235522@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1907354996.20050510235522@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:55:22PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Natalie, natalie, natalie.... > > A debit card takes the money IMMEDIATELY from your bank account. A > credit card is a loan from the bank, and you pay it when and how you > want. You choose to pay it automatically from your checking account. > > It, just to confuse you further, is also possible to have the SAME > card be BOTH CREDIT and DEBIT, depending on the options you choose > when swiping it. One way it charges it, and you can pay it when you > will. The other way it takes the money out (i.e. debits) your > checking immediately. Don't need two cards. > > And if you choose to call any of the three types of cards an "ATM > card", that's fine, as any of them can get money from an ATM. Again, > depending on the card and the choice you make, it'll come out of one > pocket or the other. Please, without metaphysics. Do you know of a practical difference? No. Do you know of a difference in protocol? No. Either that or you are very reluctant to state it. Instead, you keep harping on what it REALLY MEANS. You talk about pockets and charging and things. Who gives a rat's ass what they are? BFD. Suppose I have $100 in my account. I want to pay $125. State clearly what happens with a debit card, and a credit card tied to my account. Thanks ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 06:19:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BBIuWm021008 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:18:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:19:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F599E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 7:18:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:18:55 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BBIskI005135 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:18:55 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051113171700587 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:17:17 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 11 May 2005 13:18:54 +0200 Message-ID: <4281EA1D.9030406@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:18:53 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quiz References: <427BF0F2.5080200@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 11:18:54.0256 (UTC) FILETIME=[37583300:01C5561B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber skrev 09.05.2005 15:31: >41% (Yankee). Barely into the Yankee category. > I'm "barely a Yankee" ! Who'da thunk. I had several answers which were >clearly regional -- i.e. "Mischief Night" and "hoagie" bue maybe I confused >the system with my hybrid NY-Philadelphia answers. Of course I probably >shoulda been pegged as Jersey. And I guess that's only about 41% Yankee? As >compared to like a Rhode Islander or a Bostonite anyway... > BTW, I actually had no answer for the last one. So I chose roly-poly >because it sounds vaguely familiar. > Marie > > And since I don't have any US dialect - just a mix up of what I have gathered here and there, my response is probably not worth much except that it might be influenced by British English where applicable: 58% (Dixie). Barely into the Dixie category. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 06:25:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BBPkWm021820 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:25:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:25:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E1DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 7:25:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:25:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BBPkSv006205 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:25:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so204417nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.18 with SMTP id j18mr109953nzj; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:25:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fz0va7+cctRAFqS+tlNl3xhoc8dDnw4/9+B/w3J2FrJQCiitk56ozbaD4QRVy+BmPNbbBXXHOuNR3cjgkDUDjtjA58Um3Rx6GUq9mhuvw0lHba+VPwtu25WEPVXR0Vn6iXRCdRDpu6qmSFTccPg/aR1Ws3qO3tEUHMsVTOzKuZU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051104254dac6e92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:25:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <1054644787.20050511005755@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505102325dc27780@mail.gmail.com> <1054644787.20050511005755@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BBPkWm021820 On 5/11/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/11/2005, 12:25 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> Of course you're stupid to use a debit > >> card on the web, > >> instead of credit card, since you have NO > >> protection against fraud. > >> > > AFoA> I would say that you are stupid to do business with > AFoA> fraudulent businesses. > > Well,I've not been burned on the net yet....but know a number who have > with fraudulent ebay transactions. > Then say that, instead of condemning all web merchants. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 06:29:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BBTnWm022327 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:29:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:29:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F599AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 7:19:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:19:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BB9mq1003760 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:09:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 44296 invoked by uid 1003); 11 May 2005 11:09:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:09:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( Message-ID: <20050511110948.GB29916@words-l.org> References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <001201c5558b$5e5c9cb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4281063A.3060706@akad.ee> <322471523.20050511003723@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <322471523.20050511003723@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 12:37:23AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/10/2005, 1:06 PM, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > KS> Yes. However friendly and polite the message may > KS> seem. That kind of > KS> cheatings here have been very clumsy and full of > KS> writing mistakes so far > > Yes, most are written in atrocious English, awful spelling, etc. But > also consider that those dumb enough to fall for that crap probably > wouldn't know bad grammar or spelling if it bit them in the ass. It's much more prestigious to fall for smooth operators with excellent English, excellent suits and excellent hair. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 06:29:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BBTnWm022329 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:29:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:29:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F599C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 7:29:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:29:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BBT9RZ006420 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:29:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so205294nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr123076nzh; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:29:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KbPo+nWkWxhY6tFsDASgnxlV53cHFVkT3zmLx1YNbl33BwM1rlP4Z9sBOntOfIMaruoedsQ6I38j4k0zOZ66KmmDo4DexdB7gJO+l3zWAZNCwHOkkyT/OR1l7nKmxNy1tNfH1YrSTw2MzLa38nYjFqYt0jjSuTao9FfjkJfuVek= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050511042963cb7d1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:29:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before I Forget In-Reply-To: <1583496627.20050511003006@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050510072769ca2381@mail.gmail.com> <4280CD81.7080203@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100836162479c6@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505100925373bb15f@mail.gmail.com> <1583496627.20050511003006@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BBTnWm022329 On 5/11/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > Sure, send me four, please. Not sure if/when I'll use them, or why > I'd care about them over yahoomail accounts....but since everyone and > their mother is gaga over them, I need to learn about them to support > some of my users. > I haven't used yahoo or hotmail for years; basically, I hate webmail. But I like using gmail a lot. I like the interface and the flexibility. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 06:51:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BBouWm025636 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:50:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:51:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E206@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 7:43:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:43:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BBhAix007753 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:43:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so208985nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr126670nzh; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:43:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JhCS+Ww/GvWEAg1JQUo19fVo+qbDp9FQS5fmtZfkxOCDxEpGmlbiVDCA+VUYMDNc+E0jxpb3FsAZORqbz6PuJlzxlfvsEprr5NaTdYmX7uozluZrtucx5VjUFJN51Gsb3vPkoMYam8AShyLLmebBxPGQTot+/3oA3onWlHrk9Xo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051104437bf0f4ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:43:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Nanook report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BBouWm025636 He sounds like a didgeridoo. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 06:51:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BBouWm025638 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:50:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:51:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E04F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 7:44:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:44:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BBi6nT007821 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:44:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so209228nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr115970nzu; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 04:44:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=G+sD8ZK+UtcX908SZ3p3YtZYBVEfSJfK5lwstAk1F6EFMX0kM8L/r9/kjZQbnOU4yU0GaHXHg1HTS+zHuCVKHl+kvitCUPYm8pjT8YaYXibgKjF7BqsCRiwCd9neIHQmjMcWj4QBzigpx0aDC/9UqPF9Tie67RS0HKGZ2VoULBI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051104442b5d24ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:44:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before I Forget In-Reply-To: <20050511114050.CKGI9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050511114050.CKGI9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BBouWm025638 If you're going to delete me, please don't cite me. On 5/11/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > From: A Friend of Andy > Date: 2005/05/11 on PM 01:29:09 CEST > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Ämne: Re: Before I Forget > > On 5/11/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > Sure, send me four, please. Not sure if/when I'll use them, or why > > I'd care about them over yahoomail accounts....but since everyone and > > their mother is gaga over them, I need to learn about them to support > > some of my users. > > > > If there are any left over, I'd like one. My current webmail is getting > on my nerves. > > Marcia > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 06:51:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BBouWm025633 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:50:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:51:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E045@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 7:40:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:52 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BBeojX007551 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:51 -0400 Received: from mxfep02 ([195.54.107.73] [195.54.107.73]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050511114050.CKGI9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:40:50 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before I Forget Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:40:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20050511114050.CKGI9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: A Friend of Andy Date: 2005/05/11 on PM 01:29:09 CEST To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ämne: Re: Before I Forget On 5/11/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > Sure, send me four, please. Not sure if/when I'll use them, or why > I'd care about them over yahoomail accounts....but since everyone and > their mother is gaga over them, I need to learn about them to support > some of my users. > If there are any left over, I'd like one. My current webmail is getting on my nerves. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 06:51:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BBouWm025639 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:50:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:51:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E170@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 7:49:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:49:32 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BBnVeH008309 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:49:32 -0400 Received: from mxfep02 ([195.54.107.73] [195.54.107.73]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050511114931.CLIF9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:49:31 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before I Forget Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:49:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20050511114931.CLIF9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sorry about that. Mea culpa! Marcia From: A Friend of Andy Date: 2005/05/11 on PM 01:44:05 CEST To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ämne: Re: Before I Forget If you're going to delete me, please don't cite me. On 5/11/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > From: A Friend of Andy > Date: 2005/05/11 on PM 01:29:09 CEST > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Ämne: Re: Before I Forget > > On 5/11/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > Sure, send me four, please. Not sure if/when I'll use them, or why > > I'd care about them over yahoomail accounts....but since everyone and > > their mother is gaga over them, I need to learn about them to support > > some of my users. > > > > If there are any left over, I'd like one. My current webmail is getting > on my nerves. > > Marcia > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:09:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BC9JWm028550 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:09:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:09:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E260@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:09:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 279027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:09:18 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BC9HAO010020 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:09:18 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051114074001153 ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:07:40 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 11 May 2005 14:09:16 +0200 Message-ID: <4281F5EC.7040106@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:09:16 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Back from the mountains etc. References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 12:09:17.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[4114B4C0:01C55622] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One of the perks I have from being a Norwegian government employee is that I have - with some restrictions - the right to have days off with pay for exams and to prepare for the exams. yesterday was one of this semester's exams - and I believe I didn't fail, but that is as far as I will go - so last Friday and Monday this week were says off for preparations. I packed my books and we went up on last Thursday - a holiday here in Norway as some people on this service found out in Hammerfest. I read in the morning, the afternoon and early evening, but we took a couple of hours off for short hikes every day. The place where we stay lies at around 750 meters above the sea, and the houses usually stay empty so the local animals have included the grounds around the buildings in there daily walks. This time we also met a bird I have never seen in the wild before. I am not sure about the English name - what I found on the web is Scottish, I believe: capercaillie - in Latin it is: Tetrao urogallus. But it is large. Probably Northern Europe's equivalent of a wild turkey. We also had a visiting fox, a large red one, and some small deer. On one of our hikes we went to a favourite place. Now it is a vacation cabin, but people with a baby were living there all year as late as the middle 1950ies: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/rbu.jpg http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/rbui.jpg http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/rbue.jpg In these mountains the stone is light in colour, and there is also a lot of whitish-grey lichen which makes the forests special, especially close to the tree line: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/lav.jpg We experienced snow, hail, and sleet on Sunday, but apart from that we had great weather. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:17:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BCH7Wm029520 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:17:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:17:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E0D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:17:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 279536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:17:06 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCH6fJ010838 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:17:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511121706.RBYJ23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:17:06 -0400 Message-ID: <4281F7C1.1080809@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:17:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: luggage/cards References: <200505110511.j4B5BOA9004315@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505110511.j4B5BOA9004315@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>indeed things may be kind of scary: >> >>http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/Spain/revelers6.jpg >> >> > >Either I'm in an unusually cheerful mood tonight, or that's cute. > > You might like the others I took that night also. They're here: http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/Spain/revelers.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:40:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BCebWm032024 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E0ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:22:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 279905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:22:38 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BCMbsJ011505 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:22:37 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051114205901478 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:20:59 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 11 May 2005 14:22:36 +0200 Message-ID: <4281F90C.6030906@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:22:36 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 1 References: <200505091648.j49GmBXL027825@sm.luth.se> In-Reply-To: <200505091648.j49GmBXL027825@sm.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 12:22:36.0455 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D8D7B70:01C55624] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Torkel Franzen skrev 09.05.2005 18:48: >I think Marcia looks great, too! > >By the way, I have a book coming out shortly: > >http://www.akpeters.com/product.asp?ProdCode=2388 > > > Congratulations! I should probably buy and read this book. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:40:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BCebWm032019 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E2A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:22:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 279914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:22:55 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCMtSn011543 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:22:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511122255.REXD23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:22:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4281F91E.8000607@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:22:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280BBC2.9090704@maynor.net> <1573608287.20050510234931@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1573608287.20050510234931@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I don't >NM> see why there would be any advantage to having >NM> over the >NM> specific date to pay a bill. Like why would it be >NM> advantageous for me >NM> to write a check to Visa on say May 10 instead of >NM> just letting Visa grab >NM> the money at the last possible moment, like maybe >NM> May 20? > >Because for those extra days your money is somewhere other than in >your checking account....it is somewhere earning money. And you >transfer it in the day you do another transaction to pay something >from the account. > > How would that be any different if using bank draft to pay the Visa bill? You could transfer the money from elsewhere on that date. The date is at the end of the allowable period to pay a bill, so you could leave the money somewhere else at least as long as if you were going to write a check instead. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:40:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BCebWm032016 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E2A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:20:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 279793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:20:36 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCKai3011276 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:20:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511122036.RDTP23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:20:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4281F893.8040905@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:20:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <49376174.20050510234733@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <49376174.20050510234733@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Ah ha!! What you're saying then is that it is a credit card, and you >have it set up for "auto bill payment" (or whatever you and they call >it) to be automatically paid from your checking account. OK...NOW it >makes sense. > > That's what I said from the beginning. I said that on a certain date each month the money to pay my Visa bill is debited from my checking account. Every time I said that, you swore that it was therefore a "debit card." >Now that you've explained it. In other words the money is NOT >immediately coming out of your account. That is the difference. Plus > > I said all along that the money was debited from my account once a month. It was only you who couldn't comprehend that that didn't make it a "debit card." Note Kristin's question about how you paid your bill if it wasn't from your bank. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:40:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BCebWm032022 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E102@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:28:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 280295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:28:54 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCSsQ0012330 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:28:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511122854.RICS23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:28:54 -0400 Message-ID: <4281FA84.6050907@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:28:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051006545865d374@mail.gmail.com> <1539392948.20050510235202@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1539392948.20050510235202@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >AFoA> So they don't have automatic bill pay in Idaho? Talk >AFoA> about your sheltered >AFoA> existence... > >As I'm sure you've seen by now Natalie was confounding the two by >talking about things coming directly out of her checking account, >rather than using her credit card and then having IT paid from her >checking account monthly. She has finally made it clear...which is >typical for Natalie. > > Finally made it clear to you -- or rather you were finally able to comprehend the obvious. I realize, of course, that you typically take longer than most people to understand something. Karen obviously understood from the beginning. Indeed I did say that the money to pay my credit card bill came directly out of my checking account monthly. How exactly is that confounding two things? It is precisely what happens: the money to pay my Visa bill is debited from my checking account once a month. FINALLY you have quit saying "so that means it's a debit card." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:40:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BCebWm032023 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:40:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E24B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:34:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 281119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:34:52 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCYqgr013404 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:34:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511123452.RLUQ23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:34:52 -0400 Message-ID: <4281FBEB.7050606@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:34:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <1907354996.20050510235522@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1907354996.20050510235522@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> (Dan chooses to use the >NM> term "debit card" for a credit card that is paid by >NM> bank-draft. I don't >NM> think you should assume that is the norm in the US, >NM> though. I think >NM> it's unique to Dan -- or maybe to Idaho in general. > >Natalie, natalie, natalie.... > >A debit card takes the money IMMEDIATELY from your bank account. A >credit card is a loan from the bank, and you pay it when and how you >want. You choose to pay it automatically from your checking account. > > Indeed. That is why I kept saying over and over to you that mine is a CREDIT CARD -- that I am using Visa's money all month -- that it's like a loan from the bank, without interest. I know what a debit card is, and I know that I do not use a debit card. I use a credit card. Yet you repeatedly said "if the money comes out of your checking account, it's a debit card." >It, just to confuse you further, is also possible to have the SAME >card be BOTH CREDIT and DEBIT, depending on the options you choose >when swiping it. One way it charges it, and you can pay it when you >will. The other way it takes the money out (i.e. debits) your >checking immediately. Don't need two cards. > > I have not been confused at any point in this discussion. Only you were confused. I am well aware that some cards can be both credit and debit. I know people who have such cards. And I understand how they work. >And if you choose to call any of the three types of cards an "ATM >card", that's fine, as any of them can get money from an ATM. Again, > > When I say "ATM card," I'm talking about a card that is usable for ATMs only. Banks don't like to issue them anymore for some reason. I don't know why, but banks have been pushing debit cards for years -- full-fledged debit cards -- the kind usable for purchases etc as well as in ATMs. I prefer the old-fashioned ATM cards since that's the only debiting I ever do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:44:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BCirWm032425 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:44:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:44:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E277@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:44:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 281827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:44:52 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCiq9b015214 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:44:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511124452.RSCZ23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:44:52 -0400 Message-ID: <4281FE43.6030508@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:44:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705051007422c8b5260@mail.gmail.com> <452376931.20050511000121@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <452376931.20050511000121@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > Of course Natalie may have never set up the >pin on her credit card, or doesn't know what it is...which doesn't >matter unless she wants cash from an ATM. > > I use my ATM card to get cash. I have no desire to get cash with my credit card since that means paying interest. I did that one time in Germany many years ago (before ATM cards existed) and was appalled when I realized that interest was charged. That's the only time I've ever paid credit-card interest. (It probably wasn't much, if any, more than the transaction fee for getting money another way would have been, but I still didn't like the idea of it and of course never did it again.) >Indeed. Thanks for understanding, even if Natalie doesn't. Maybe she >does by now. And she thinks that she has all the answers..... > > I *do* have all the answers to the question of my own financial methods. That's why I was amazed when you were telling me over and over and over and over that my *credit card* was a *debit card*. I found it amazing that you were too stupid to understand the concept of automatic payment of credit-card bills and that you also were so presumptuous as to think you knew more about my financial life than I know. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:48:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BCmcWm000097 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:48:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:48:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E337@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:48:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:48:38 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCmcur015820 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:48:38 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:48:38 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:48:17 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: hmmmm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was out of the library yesterday - driving to Albany and back to pick up a new batch of papers that were donated to Special Collections. This morning, one of my cow orkers greeted me with " Welcome back. I missed your cheery cynicism yesterday." I think I like being described as a cheery cynic. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:51:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BCocWm000327 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:50:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:51:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E180@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:50:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:50:38 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BCoafa016294 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:50:37 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051114485901764 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:48:59 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 11 May 2005 14:50:36 +0200 Message-ID: <4281FF9B.3060605@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:50:35 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan References: <20050511091409.BQBW9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> In-Reply-To: <20050511091409.BQBW9918.mxfep02.bredband.com@mxfep02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 12:50:36.0219 (UTC) FILETIME=[06C520B0:01C55628] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen skrev 11.05.2005 11:14: >>" Sorry, the page you requested does not exist or has been moved." >> >>Espen >> >> > >That is because I just updated from their free site to one that costs >a little and I got to choose my own name so as of about a half hour ago, >my photosite's name is www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com > > > Tusen takk! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 07:51:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BCocWn000327 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:51:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 07:51:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E183@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:50:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:50:56 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCouv3016347 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:50:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511125056.RWCG23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:50:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4281FFAF.5000701@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:50:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <4280C9B3.6060007@akad.ee> <489616280.20050511000348@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <489616280.20050511000348@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Some Americans still use the antiquated term "ATM card" for a debit >card. The ATM Card term was in vogue in late 70s to early 80s when >banks started issuing their own ATM cards good only at that chain of >banks. > ATM cards still exist, though they are becoming rare. Maybe at the very beginning they were good at only that chain of banks, but by the time I first got one (sometime in the '80s, I guess), that was not true. At first there was nothing on the card itself that told where it was good. The only thing written on the card was the name of the issuing bank. But you could ask at the bank for a list of other ATMs it would work in. Not long ago I ran across an ancient little slip of paper with names like Plus and Cirrus and whatever written on it -- from way back when that was how I knew where my ATM card would work (at ATMs that had those names on them). Later incarnations of the card had those names on the back of the card. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:00:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BD00Wm001555 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:00:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:00:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F59C59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 9:00:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:00:00 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCxxAc017385 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:59:59 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19434162 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:00:21 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 06:00:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:00:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <882574219.20050511070001@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Regional English redux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66351, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.blogthings.com/amenglishdialecttest/ some of the same questions as the one the other day, but some different, and more analysis. My stats follow Your Linguistic Profile: 50% General American English 15% Dixie 15% Upper Midwestern 15% Yankee 5% Midwestern From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:12:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDBlWm003244 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:11:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E374@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 9:01:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:01:51 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BD1pqD017737 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:01:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19449041 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:31:54 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 06:02:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:01:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1032125705.20050511070157@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <20050511110746.GA29916@words-l.org> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <1907354996.20050510235522@gailndan.com> <20050511110746.GA29916@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 190, in=69328, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 5:07 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> Suppose I have $100 in my account. I want to pay DMH> $125. State clearly what happens with a debit card, DMH> and a credit card tied to my account. If you choose debit, it won't be approved. If you choose credit, it will be approved, assuming that you have the credit available. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:12:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDBlWm003243 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:11:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E2C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 9:01:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:01:25 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BD1Pua017667 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:01:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511130125.SFRC23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:01:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:01:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Well, I'll bet that you can do your banking online too...even in >Mississippi, which we all know is MUCH more advanced than Idaho. Uh >huh. Sure. > > What's the point? Like what is it that I would do online re banking? I thought I'd asked that question yesterday, but maybe I just thought it rather than asking it. I realize that "online banking" is an option and has been for a long time, but I don't know how it works (other than getting your bank statement online instead of in the mail -- I prefer to get mine in the mail). So if I prefer to get my bank statement by mail, why might I be interested in online banking? I use my physical bank for two things: its ATM (because it happens to be very close to where I live -- in a location I pass every day) and my safe-deposit box. How do you get cash or store valuables online? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:12:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDBlWm003238 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:11:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E348@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:54:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 281726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:54:00 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BChTEJ015001 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:43:30 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4BChOwq019913 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:43:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:43:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: relativity Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: NM> The Barcelona NM> airport didn't NM> strike me as very the last time I was NM> there. But that was NM> over a year ago (February of '04). Seemed the same to me six months earlier. And if you want to think dangerous, I could name some in USA that I'd put much higher on list than Barcelona or Berlin or Venice or lots of others. Of course, I have made no comparative statemets re security in cities other than Barcelona - and I am not thinking Berlin/Venice because I am not going to those locations right now. I am basically taking the same precautions in Barcelona that I take in Manhattan - except for the addition of a lockable suitcase. I have not found those precautions necessary in some cities - London, for example. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:12:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDBlWm003245 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:11:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E193@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:55:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:55:15 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCtErB016936 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:55:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511125514.RZOP23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:55:14 -0400 Message-ID: <428200B1.6020409@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:55:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505100658111ad53e@mail.gmail.com> <4280C154.9010705@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050510072769ca2381@mail.gmail.com> <4280CD81.7080203@maynor.net> <152322118.20050511002153@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <152322118.20050511002153@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> That makes me wonder why the machines ask that >NM> question. What's the >NM> point of asking if the machine automatically knows >NM> which it is? > >MANY of us have cards that are both credit and debit, so it needs to >know which you're feature you're using. > Obviously. That is what I had always assumed about that question. But the above is in response to what Karen said about telling the machine that it's a credit card when in fact she is using a debit card. She answered the above question, however: With her particular debit card it's a sort of back-door, beat-the-system thing that works. (I don't mean to imply by my word choice there that it's somehow . It's a logical way for the issuing bank of her debit card to let their customers use it at places that don't accept that particular brand of debit card.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:12:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDBlWn003244 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E2CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 9:03:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:03:28 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BD3R6e018006 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:03:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19150153 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:20:31 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 06:03:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:03:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <232689376.20050511070334@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051104254dac6e92@mail.gmail.com> References: <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505102325dc27780@mail.gmail.com> <1054644787.20050511005755@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051104254dac6e92@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=67496, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 5:25 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Well,I've not been burned on the net yet....but >> know a number who have >> with fraudulent ebay transactions. >> AFoA> Then say that, instead of condemning all web AFoA> merchants. I wasn't condemning anyone. I was just pointing out that if you get defrauded with credit card, you have some protection. If with debit, you're SOL. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:12:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDBlWn003238 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E1F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 9:11:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:11:46 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BDBjl2019004 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:11:45 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19449762 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:41:49 -0700 Received: from [132.178.175.216] ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 06:12:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:11:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <539518895.20050511071152@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <4281FBEB.7050606@maynor.net> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <1907354996.20050510235522@gailndan.com> <4281FBEB.7050606@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 190, in=69333, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 6:34 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> When I say "ATM card," I'm talking about a card that NM> is usable for ATMs NM> only. Banks don't like to issue them anymore for NM> some reason. Probably because you don't have as much opportunity to use them, and thus they don't have as much chance to make money. NM> I don't NM> know why, but banks have been pushing debit cards NM> for years -- NM> full-fledged debit cards -- the kind usable for NM> purchases etc as well as NM> in ATMs. I prefer the old-fashioned ATM cards NM> since that's the only NM> debiting I ever do. Well, what does it matter if it does both? Is there any harm? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:12:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDBlWn003243 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E1D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 9:04:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:04:26 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BD4Qoi018176 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:04:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511130426.SIXG23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:04:26 -0400 Message-ID: <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:04:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sales pitch continued References: <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> In-Reply-To: <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Torkel Franzen wrote: >I hadn't heard of "Publish America" before, but it seems a pretty >shady operation (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25187-2005Jan20). >This is of course compatible with many of their authors being very pleased >with what they get. > > Yes, I saw that article. It was sometime after my uncle had already signed a contract with PA, so I did not send him that url. I thought about it since he would of course have found it interesting, but then I decided that there was no point -- that it would only upset him. It's not as if he's young enough to "learn from his errors" and use a different publisher next time. He's in his mid eighties. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:12:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDBlWm003234 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:11:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E342@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 8:51:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:51:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BCpgVM016459 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:51:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so155041wra for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 05:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.34.10 with SMTP id h10mr286967wrh; Wed, 11 May 2005 05:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 05:51:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Uag3CyaDMu8B6OnI7jisz7LyACTlmKcr4Q10Oh5jdWOmjsEPjI4kMMCFlOXqSeb/9LgUeyJYdxVjPMxme+0Sw4wd0/fvALwYQb8RJaEb82vONcBl1iMsqG0FKQEHEBzP8RqNbbPQpq32eDxcdv4SQlZl95iH/r9B1eGl0tXgtLw= Message-ID: <4622719505051105519309d69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:51:42 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <49376174.20050510234733@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <49376174.20050510234733@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4BCphVM016461 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/11/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/10/2005, 7:39 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> If my Visa card is considered a "debit card," why > NM> does it work when I > NM> click on "credit" rather than "debit" when sliding > NM> it in grocery stores, > NM> etc? I thought "debit cards" required PINs. Mine > NM> has no PIN. > > Usually. Depends on how and when used. > > NM> And the > NM> bank that issued it refers to it as a "credit card," > NM> as does Northwest > NM> Airlines (it's a "Northwest Airlines Worldperks > NM> Visa"). But I'm sure > NM> you know best. > Now that you've explained it. In other words the money is NOT > immediately coming out of your account. That is the difference. Plus > you have a number of protections with a credit card that you don't > with a debit card. When I use my "ATM card" which is what I hear it called, the question is, "Do you want that to be used as a "credit card" or a "debit card"? I'm not the CFO so I don't know all of the underlying methods of how it all fits together, but I know when it's used as a credit card there's no usage charge as one would be assessed at an ATM. p From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:22:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDMOWm004599 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:22:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:22:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F59CD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 9:19:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:19:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BDJMrc019915 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:19:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so239069nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.119.4 with SMTP id r4mr153000nzc; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:19:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rK1jzJYfYf8sjXy1i+vtmyr/0c6Pjb328I/ChisSBidOgOddItCIcQWDXgEhD65naTJ/kninrz1xKg8ChyoGDGRgdaFDtOyS1wARvyoSGaIkG8izNhJ/PqvapHG15a3K4+Mb4gkPkaO6NjTCXE9p21yDvYqP9FHrVKKqT1w/V+8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:19:22 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BDMOWm004599 On 5/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > What's the point? Like what is it that I would do online re banking? I check that money has been deposited, and I can check to see when money is withdrawn. I look at my bank account almost every day--which is a damn good thing, because last month I wrote my mortgage check for a lot less than I should have. I only discovered this when I saw it clear--for the wrong amount. I get my bank statements in the mail, but I almost never look at them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:22:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDMOWm004597 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:22:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:22:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F59CAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 9:12:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:12:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BDCEq8019100 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:12:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so236202nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.6 with SMTP id k6mr158767nzk; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:12:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Wji6g7Lbv8l0/XxJApUtZ19130UcX4Yd2gOU0mHs6PMtDKk1ddnhPCI6WR1pm8ENFfbXi5q6dzfq7EZbfEvFvsS0l/iTbRRLEkbX36n2+056eIXOAc7jkDGcd8HOHu0AoPN9OxqPH/SsMTRMjyedtPkkmi1bAytO9Lf/6BPwrfY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505110612241e2ef4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:12:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <232689376.20050511070334@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505102325dc27780@mail.gmail.com> <1054644787.20050511005755@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051104254dac6e92@mail.gmail.com> <232689376.20050511070334@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BDMOWm004597 On 5/11/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/11/2005, 5:25 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> Well,I've not been burned on the net yet....but > >> know a number who have > >> with fraudulent ebay transactions. > >> > > AFoA> Then say that, instead of condemning all web > AFoA> merchants. > > I wasn't condemning anyone. I was just pointing out that if you get > defrauded with credit card, you have some protection. If with debit, > you're SOL. > Through the card. But e-Bay has its own protections. IME, very few people on e-Bay actually take cards of any sort--all my transactions have been through PayPal or the ilk, and they also have their own protections. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 08:59:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BDxeWm008878 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:59:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:59:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E4AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 9:59:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:59:40 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BDxdf8026995 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:59:39 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so297284wri for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.10 with SMTP id 10mr481298wrw; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 06:59:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=CGStBvjfLcboUG8RuY+yreScsTQqRkjzcywt19sGAvo2VXHdkfIlSFjQugOVyxsehbf8pKjzYSDt9RlS3I88cV5Cl2/tJA6IOvNahPBVzKmGVe3VHpZKwZIv+9fqWdVfbc9mF0hsP3IeL2RJNTlx1iAoqOBw+ljGAiteWlUKx1c= Message-ID: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:59:39 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: wissinte@muohio.edu, wissinhd@muohio.edu, lrbrown4@bellsouth.net, tcombs@acadia.net, april@barharbormaine.org, roseannofga@yahoo.com, tessnalencz@yahoo.com, marialicew@att.net, amack@clis.com, kring@sover.net, danandlisa@earthlink.net Subject: back home Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BDxeWm008878 Long day yesterday. As I noted, it was a beautiful morning in Bergen. The ride to the airport on the Flybussen was pleasant; lots of time to look at all of the fresh spring greenery. The KLM people were efficient and kind and security went smoothly. The departure lounge for our gate at Bergen airport had four or five leather easy chairs with foot stools---a great idea; I wish that we had discovered them a half-hour or so sooner. KLM seems to be a very efficient airline. Our wheels went up precisely at the departure time; the safety lecture/demonstration was crisp, and all of the in-flight announcements were succinct, with no repetition. We were on time at Schiphol---maybe a couple of minutes early---a good thing, because we had a fairly long, rapid walk to our NW flight. That's when the fun began. Passport control went quickly. Then we got to the departure gate, where first our boarding passes were scrutinized; then we were directed to a podium behind which stood a man who went through the litany: where are you coming from, did you pack your own luggage, etc.---while scanning our passports and scrutinizing our boarding cards. Having satisfied his curiosity, we then went through a complete security screening: bags on the belt, all metal things in the tray, and once again, the scrutiny of our boarding passes. One gets the feeling that there is some code that, a security type having seen it, wins themselves a big prize. Then a short wait, and onto the plane, which was nearly full. The flight was uneventful. The food was good---clearly, the quality of food improves with provisioning at Amsterdam relative to Detroit. We landed ahead of schedule at Detroit---not much of a head wind---and an occasional tailwind---on this crossing. It was 82F in Detroit when we set down at about 1700; it seemed that the air-conditioning system at DTW was caught by surprise. More fun and games. First, of course, was the first reading of the passport and our customs declaration. This turned out to be the high point of our "welcome" back. The man in the booth was a slightly shorter, slightly shorter version of Morgan Freeman in Driving Miss Daisy---great silver-sprinkled beard. He asked what I did for a living, then when Bonnie said that I was retired and enjoying it immensely, he asked where I had worked. I said: TVA. He brightened up and said that that brought back wonderful memories of an administration that gave a damn about people. He ended by saying "Thank God for term limits!" and sent us on with his blessing. Next, passport control, which went smoothly. Then on to the baggage. Having the pricey (cf. Lester) fancy locks (some of ours are fluorescent yellow) made our bags easy to to identify at a distance, so that one could out-jostle others and get to them. No problems getting cleared and sending our bags on to Bangor. However, NOW there was another complete security screening, complete with another line-by-line examination of passport and boarding pass, all metal in the tray, bag on the belt, etc. This screening was performed by a group of overweening, highly officious TSA twits who seemed genuinely annoyed that anyone would want to enter the country. What this screening was supposed to accomplish, I fail to see. From the time we left the plane until this last exercise, we had been guided, sequestered, and directed every step of the way. The railroads may have largely abolished featherbedding but clearly, TSA has re-invented it. The thought was large and clear in my mind: Welcome to Festung Amerika! We had time (more than we really wanted) to enjoy a martini, eat a mediocre meal, and cool our heels until the final leg. Here again, the warm weather seemed to have caught the DTW-BGR flight by surprise; the airflow from the little spigots would hardly have been enough to extinguish a match. We did get to Bangor a little ahead of schedule, so we were on the road to MDI by a little after 2300 (this, after having started the journey from the Radisson-Bryggen at the EST equivalent of about 0300). A pleasant drive home---clear night (and blessedly in the low 50s) and no traffic. Clearly, the season has yet to begin in earnest. The cats seemed a little nonplussed to have their sleeping schedule interrupted. This morning, cool and foggy. Awoke at 0630---still pretty much on Norwegian time. Spring is not as advanced here as on the southwestern 'wegian coast. Our lilacs are a few days away from blooming. The willows and aspens seem to be leafing out, the maples are still in the final stages of flowering, and the ash in our back yard---the last to leaf out and the first to lose its leaves---shows only slight interest in springtime. The back yard is looking shaggy and in need of a trim, but not today. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 09:07:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BE7nWm010048 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:07:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:07:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E6E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:07:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:07:48 -0400 Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BE7krD028295 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:07:47 -0400 Received: from mxfep01 ([195.54.107.70] [195.54.107.70]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050511140745.WVLX24425.mxfep01.bredband.com@mxfep01> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:07:45 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taiwan Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:07:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20050511140745.WVLX24425.mxfep01.bredband.com@mxfep01> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Tusen takk! > > Espen Jag gillar när du svarar på norska. Mera sådant! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 09:18:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BEIRWm011507 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:18:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:18:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E671@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:18:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 291155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:18:27 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BEIPdg029587 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:18:25 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5A047@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:18:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200505111418.j4BEIPdg029587@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:18:17 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Taiwan To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 10 May 2005 23:43:09 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >5/10/2005, 7:08 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >>> A guy needs something to hold on to. > >DMH> What a wonderful tribute! > >Thank you for the kind words. They're always appreciated. And my >apologies to anyone who was offended by my usage of gender specific >language. It should have said "a guy or a girl needs something to >hold on to" IF you start specifying, you may have to admit more than you want about the details of "I hate skinny little things". Better to let it go. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 09:20:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BEKdWm011868 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:20:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:20:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E57F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:20:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 291400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:20:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BEKUgY029937 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:20:31 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:20:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:20:00 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: back home Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome home. The ongoing description has been wonderful. Thanks for the vicarious trip. BrP >>> cwvoigt@GMAIL.COM 5/11/2005 9:59:39 AM >>> Long day yesterday. As I noted, it was a beautiful morning in Bergen. The ride to the airport on the Flybussen was pleasant; lots of time to look at all of the fresh spring greenery. The KLM people were efficient and kind and security went smoothly. The departure lounge for our gate at Bergen airport had four or five leather easy chairs with foot stools---a great idea; I wish that we had discovered them a half-hour or so sooner. KLM seems to be a very efficient airline. Our wheels went up precisely at the departure time; the safety lecture/demonstration was crisp, and all of the in-flight announcements were succinct, with no repetition. We were on time at Schiphol---maybe a couple of minutes early---a good thing, because we had a fairly long, rapid walk to our NW flight. That's when the fun began. Passport control went quickly. Then we got to the departure gate, where first our boarding passes were scrutinized; then we were directed to a podium behind which stood a man who went through the litany: where are you coming from, did you pack your own luggage, etc.---while scanning our passports and scrutinizing our boarding cards. Having satisfied his curiosity, we then went through a complete security screening: bags on the belt, all metal things in the tray, and once again, the scrutiny of our boarding passes. One gets the feeling that there is some code that, a security type having seen it, wins themselves a big prize. Then a short wait, and onto the plane, which was nearly full. The flight was uneventful. The food was good---clearly, the quality of food improves with provisioning at Amsterdam relative to Detroit. We landed ahead of schedule at Detroit---not much of a head wind---and an occasional tailwind---on this crossing. It was 82F in Detroit when we set down at about 1700; it seemed that the air-conditioning system at DTW was caught by surprise. More fun and games. First, of course, was the first reading of the passport and our customs declaration. This turned out to be the high point of our "welcome" back. The man in the booth was a slightly shorter, slightly shorter version of Morgan Freeman in Driving Miss Daisy---great silver-sprinkled beard. He asked what I did for a living, then when Bonnie said that I was retired and enjoying it immensely, he asked where I had worked. I said: TVA. He brightened up and said that that brought back wonderful memories of an administration that gave a damn about people. He ended by saying "Thank God for term limits!" and sent us on with his blessing. Next, passport control, which went smoothly. Then on to the baggage. Having the pricey (cf. Lester) fancy locks (some of ours are fluorescent yellow) made our bags easy to to identify at a distance, so that one could out-jostle others and get to them. No problems getting cleared and sending our bags on to Bangor. However, NOW there was another complete security screening, complete with another line-by-line examination of passport and boarding pass, all metal in the tray, bag on the belt, etc. This screening was performed by a group of overweening, highly officious TSA twits who seemed genuinely annoyed that anyone would want to enter the country. What this screening was supposed to accomplish, I fail to see. From the time we left the plane until this last exercise, we had been guided, sequestered, and directed every step of the way. The railroads may have largely abolished featherbedding but clearly, TSA has re-invented it. The thought was large and clear in my mind: Welcome to Festung Amerika! We had time (more than we really wanted) to enjoy a martini, eat a mediocre meal, and cool our heels until the final leg. Here again, the warm weather seemed to have caught the DTW-BGR flight by surprise; the airflow from the little spigots would hardly have been enough to extinguish a match. We did get to Bangor a little ahead of schedule, so we were on the road to MDI by a little after 2300 (this, after having started the journey from the Radisson-Bryggen at the EST equivalent of about 0300). A pleasant drive home---clear night (and blessedly in the low 50s) and no traffic. Clearly, the season has yet to begin in earnest. The cats seemed a little nonplussed to have their sleeping schedule interrupted. This morning, cool and foggy. Awoke at 0630---still pretty much on Norwegian time. Spring is not as advanced here as on the southwestern 'wegian coast. Our lilacs are a few days away from blooming. The willows and aspens seem to be leafing out, the maples are still in the final stages of flowering, and the ash in our back yard---the last to leaf out and the first to lose its leaves---shows only slight interest in springtime. The back yard is looking shaggy and in need of a trim, but not today. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 09:43:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BEh6Wm014683 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:43:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:43:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5A182@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:43:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:43:06 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BEh5mk001968 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:43:05 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.253]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511144305.VIAZ2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:43:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.253]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050511144305.ULWA1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:43:05 -0400 Message-ID: <428219F5.6030403@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:43:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Back from the mountains etc. References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> <4281F5EC.7040106@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4281F5EC.7040106@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/rbu.jpg > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/rbui.jpg > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/rbue.jpg > > In these mountains the stone is light in colour, and there is also a lot > of whitish-grey lichen which makes the forests special, especially close > to the tree line: > > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/lav.jpg Gorgeous pictures! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 09:55:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BEtBWm016625 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:55:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:55:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E745@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:45:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:45:10 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BEjAjh002398 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:45:10 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.253]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511144510.VJZK2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:45:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.253]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050511144510.UNRF1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:45:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42821A71.9080902@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:45:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: relativity References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I have not found those precautions necessary in some cities - London, for >example. > > Is the crime rate (the kind we're talking about -- "petty theft" or whatever the right term is) lower in London than in Barcelona? I guess probably it is somewhat lower, though I've seen London pretty high on some lists of cities. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 09:55:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BEtBWm016629 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:55:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:55:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E82B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:15 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BEqEDt003805 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:15 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.253]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511145215.VRAO2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.253]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050511145214.UUGJ1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42821C1D.1060804@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:52:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional English redux References: <882574219.20050511070001@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <882574219.20050511070001@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >http://www.blogthings.com/amenglishdialecttest/ >some of the same questions as the one the other day, but some >different, and more analysis. My stats follow > >Your Linguistic Profile: >50% General American English >15% Dixie >15% Upper Midwestern >15% Yankee >5% Midwestern > > Your Linguistic Profile: 50% Dixie 45% General American English 5% Yankee 0% Midwestern 0% Upper Midwestern I found this one in some ways more bogus than the other one -- some inappropriate either-ors, some confusing of generational differences with regional differences, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 09:55:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BEtBWm016630 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:55:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:55:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E831@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:47 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BEqlJu003894 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:47 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:47 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:52:32 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: hmmmm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU interesting the AA possibilities are endless BrP CC >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/11/2005 10:46:53 AM >>> Ok, you can now be CC, giving us both BB and CC. Surely we can find an AA -- Arrogant Asshole. Then again, it could be Accommodating Angel, I guess. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 09:55:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BEtBWm016631 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:55:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:55:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E754@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:46:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:46:56 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BEks3B002718 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:46:54 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.253]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511144654.VLSL2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:46:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.253]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050511144654.UPGY1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:46:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42821ADD.4060007@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:46:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hmmmm References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >I think I like being described as a cheery cynic. > > Ok, you can now be CC, giving us both BB and CC. Surely we can find an AA -- Arrogant Asshole. Then again, it could be Accommodating Angel, I guess. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:06:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BF5tWm018501 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:05:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:06:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E84D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:55:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:55:54 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BEtsB7004354 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:55:54 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.253]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511145554.VUYF2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:55:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.253]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050511145553.UXWV1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:55:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42821CF8.7060305@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:55:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <1907354996.20050510235522@gailndan.com> <4281FBEB.7050606@maynor.net> <539518895.20050511071152@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <539518895.20050511071152@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I prefer the old-fashioned ATM cards >NM> since that's the only >NM> debiting I ever do. > >Well, what does it matter if it does both? Is there any harm? > > Only if the card got stolen. (Or do purchases with a debit card have the same kind of limits that most ATM cards have -- as in there's a limit per day to how much money you can get from an ATM machine.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:06:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BF5tWm018502 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:05:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:06:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E8BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:00:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:00:39 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BF0cXQ005274 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:00:39 -0400 Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.253]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511150039.VZZE2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:00:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.253]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050511150038.VCLU1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:00:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:00:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>What's the point? Like what is it that I would do online re banking? >> >> >I check that money has been deposited, and I can check to see when money is >withdrawn. I look at my bank account almost every day--which is a damn good >thing, because last month I wrote my mortgage check for a lot less than I >should have. I only discovered this when I saw it clear--for the wrong >amount. > >I get my bank statements in the mail, but I almost never look at them. > > Ohhh. So all people mean when they say "online banking" or "internet banking" is looking at their bank info online? I've done that occasionally. I was thinking that we were talking about some kind of substitute for visiting brick-and-mortar banks. That's the part I didn't get -- like how I would get cash or put things in a bank box online. I have no other reason for visiting my physical bank. (I have in the past sometimes visited a bank to get travelers' cheques, of course, though I haven't had occasion to do that with my current bank.) I also realize that one can do things like shuffle money between checking accounts and savings accounts online, but that does not apply to me since my only account is a checking account. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:09:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BF8wWm018988 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:08:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:09:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E8F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:08:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:08:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BF8v82006408 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:08:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so288159nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr225845nzu; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:08:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JxUQS01befFxlz6q4FWwKK/Qm4HgZVFqp5/i0erm39I2jtQ1/AYqXfOFc4MLxB/r765hpAr9THdiWkNPB0YhjFdb4s+adeNFbhl8OTu0vNZMrSJHrnwUGLpjEMfkKg38KwUgm/xswZ0vo1/8kootfmPD5nAw1Z1vUAFKvVhLyYs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505110808368a409e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:08:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BF8wWm018988 On 5/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Ohhh. So all people mean when they say "online banking" or "internet > banking" is looking at their bank info online? That's part of it. I also realize that one can do things like shuffle money between > checking accounts and savings accounts online, but that does not apply > to me since my only account is a checking account. > And this is an example of mutancy. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:11:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFBeWm019291 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:11:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:11:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E905@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:11:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:11:40 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BFBeNn006951 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:11:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511151139.RQZQ2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:11:39 -0400 Message-ID: <428220AA.4060801@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:11:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: back home References: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >sending our bags on to Bangor. However, NOW there was another complete >security screening, complete with another line-by-line examination of >passport and boarding pass, all metal in the tray, bag on the belt, etc. >This screening was performed by a group of overweening, highly officious TSA >twits who seemed genuinely annoyed that anyone would want to enter the >country. > What this screening was supposed to accomplish, I fail to see. From the >time we left the plane until this last exercise, we had been guided, >sequestered, and directed every step of the way. > I also hated it when they added that extra security loop. It's pretty quick and efficient in Memphis (another reason I try to get on that NW Amsterdam-Memphis flight, no matter where in Europe I've been), but it was a holy nightmare in Atlanta when I was returning from Japan in March. I stood there in the chaos swearing that I would never ever again be snookered into flying Delta through Atlanta from Japan. The only reason I can think of for that added layer is that the US doesn't trust -- doesn't trust the security checks at Schiphol or Narita or wherever. US hands must grope with your luggage before it's deemed safe. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:12:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFCpWm019420 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:12:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:12:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5A288@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:12:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:12:51 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BFColL007196 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:12:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511151249.RSVS2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:12:49 -0400 Message-ID: <428220F0.9040505@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:12:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hmmmm References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >interesting >the AA possibilities are endless > > Yes. I'm having fun of thinking of more and more. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:13:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFDgWm019476 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:13:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:13:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E80A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:13:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:13:42 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BFDgYK007372 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:13:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511151341.RUDH2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:13:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42822124.7070903@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:13:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110808368a409e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505110808368a409e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I also realize that one can do things like shuffle money between > > >>checking accounts and savings accounts online, but that does not apply >>to me since my only account is a checking account. >> >> >And this is an example of mutancy. > > Why? I.e., how is it mutant? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:15:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFFiWm019743 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:15:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:15:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062E9D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:15:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:15:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BFFh3W007768 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:15:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so291484nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.5 with SMTP id t5mr213140nzc; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:15:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ik3/hQymwWg4ehkO0A/+nokJ2wvax2kSByuVJTvs46O2zixcV+EBBwAaGR8J35DTGSQioDxMCUNx6JjySeCARFsOY9hmgl/SSZyL6je3xqXfeOzAPIqZJZDlvcQboSy3GEYGom3sXY3OaFAlOEv6CRVFJ8IrCwCb4JYfNnTkrrc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050511081546bc0e04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:15:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <42822124.7070903@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110808368a409e@mail.gmail.com> <42822124.7070903@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BFFiWm019743 On 5/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>to me since my only account is a checking account. > >> > >> > >And this is an example of mutancy. > > > > > Why? I.e., how is it mutant? > Because it's not normal to have only a checking account. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:29:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFTRWm021197 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:29:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:29:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062E963@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:29:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 298086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:29:26 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BFTQbe009821 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:29:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511152926.GMVE2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:29:26 -0400 Message-ID: <428224D5.3010802@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:29:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110808368a409e@mail.gmail.com> <42822124.7070903@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050511081546bc0e04@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050511081546bc0e04@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Why? I.e., how is it mutant? >> >> >Because it's not normal to have only a checking account. > > Oh. I guess I am mutant then. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:37:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFawWm022106 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:36:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:37:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062EA4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:36:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 298823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:36:58 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BFawjP011008 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:36:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.72.253]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511153657.GVLL2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:36:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42822698.5060209@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:36:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Biting the Bullet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ok, so the time has come to go on and figure out what to take on this trip. I just checked in for tomorrow's flights and have my boarding passes. I keep putting off packing because I still can't figure out what to take re the weird weather. But since much of this afternoon is going to be consumed by stuff like taking Spencer to be boarded, getting a haircut, etc., the walrus is speaking. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:39:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFdHWm022287 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:39:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:39:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5A3E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:39:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:39:16 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BFdFCt011401 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:39:16 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so223202wra for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.9 with SMTP id f9mr359756wra; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.119.10 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:39:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oVp+pt21K4E5um0yEnWdaRZBQZNpWBHRIzcn/pai7aHPzu9ZMtEkfLhU/P5slSZoZMMRmC1+Ogj5ZkdFzPYhSYaKXQqVLVYG0s99S3OSraMlfIWwPVjjcCCWKWRKhs2rSsyn+0/qUMP2qK/O6qp+GNQUv4dcCUck9Yw9IeiVVbQ= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050511083911b9ec94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:39:15 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional English redux In-Reply-To: <42821C1D.1060804@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <882574219.20050511070001@gailndan.com> <42821C1D.1060804@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4BFdGCt011408 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Your Linguistic Profile: 50% Yankee 30% General American English 15% Upper Midwestern 0% Dixie 0% Midwestern I had to leave a couple blank. Terry On 5/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Your Linguistic Profile: > 50% Dixie > 45% General American English > 5% Yankee > 0% Midwestern > 0% Upper Midwestern > > I found this one in some ways more bogus than the other one -- some > inappropriate either-ors, some confusing of generational differences > with regional differences, etc. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:39:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFddWm022327 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:39:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:39:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062E8A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:39:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:39:39 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BFdaqn011456 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:39:39 -0400 Received: from [151.199.35.107] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 97306655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:39:49 -0400 Message-ID: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:41:33 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sales pitch continued References: <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Yes, I saw that article. It was sometime after my uncle had already > signed a contract with PA, so I did not send him that url. I thought > about it since he would of course have found it interesting, but then I > decided that there was no point -- that it would only upset him. It's > not as if he's young enough to "learn from his errors" and use a > different publisher next time. He's in his mid eighties. > Amazon must have his book in stock. I received notification overnight that it has shipped already. I should have it by the weekend. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:56:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFu6Wm024707 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:56:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:56:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062EAA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:51:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:51:06 -0400 Received: from web60715.mail.yahoo.com (web60715.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.218]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BFp5Dk004875 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:51:05 -0400 Received: (qmail 364 invoked by uid 60001); 11 May 2005 15:51:05 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60715.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:51:04 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=FuZGIPA7cFEGc9A1RsQmVl3guBlFEQM7kdGvR7t+ggXo51u+jV8CJ6JN9t6wCdYDRLtmo83iWWn+g88SNFzRzII5HPN/zw4DwIUiiBHg+fn22ovEg0wvpSxzPXlbFUzo2Ybp1cbGtPSv3Yln1BI0TfhoK1EOsqjrp9NPAEuOj5c= ; Message-ID: <20050511155105.362.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:51:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Regional English redux To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Your Linguistic Profile: > >50% General American English > >15% Dixie > >15% Upper Midwestern > >15% Yankee > >5% Midwestern > > > > > Your Linguistic Profile: > 50% Dixie > 45% General American English > 5% Yankee > 0% Midwestern > 0% Upper Midwestern After 41 years in the Heart of Dixie, I am 25% Yankee and 20% Dixie. This proves to me that the things you learn early are the things that stick with you. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:56:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFu6Wm024708 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:56:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:56:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062EA7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:46:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:46:05 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BFk5sk004152 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:46:05 -0400 Received: from [151.199.35.107] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 91016303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:45:23 -0400 Message-ID: <42822933.7080605@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:48:03 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional English redux References: <882574219.20050511070001@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <882574219.20050511070001@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Your Linguistic Profile: 60% Yankee 15% General American English 15% Upper Midwestern 10% Dixie 0% Midwestern This is more like the "me" that I think I am. I don't the midwestern part but I do usually spend two or three weeks a year in Virginia and pick up that "Dixie" there. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 10:56:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BFukWm024775 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:56:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:56:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062EAC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:56:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:56:41 -0400 Received: from web60712.mail.yahoo.com (web60712.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.215]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BFueO1005528 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:56:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 27845 invoked by uid 60001); 11 May 2005 15:56:40 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60712.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 08:56:40 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=VWMzhlAbRgIv6igkmj0EVRenVmue9zkAJ42wSBWYwU0YgmzY8Oax3KlBeGCdJHeXLSc6AaVPhI43oTXTmWnnK1b/ATiCGYwRsk+nZsjSsoBPlQJ+Yrz8lJrskqvGTER0j7FYuqUoPE9X2o3jMQBImPwKVma5lqtmpFNMtX23vyw= ; Message-ID: <20050511155640.27843.qmail@web60712.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:56:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: eBay :-( To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Because it's not normal to have only a checking > account. > > > > > Oh. I guess I am mutant then. I have 3 checking accounts, no savings. Natalie, will you nominate me for the Mutancy Mode? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 11:31:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BGVEWm029202 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:31:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 11:31:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5A601@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:31:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:31:13 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BGVCCW010640 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:31:13 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 102896891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 09:28:43 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050511092739.00c4a658@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:28:43 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Back from the mountains etc. In-Reply-To: <4281F5EC.7040106@gmail.com> References: <20050509090434.GWG10131.mxfep04.bredband.com@mxfep04> <427F3896.3030805@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Beautiful! You guys really experience the land! (And sea) Betty >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/rbu.jpg >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/rbui.jpg >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/rbue.jpg > >In these mountains the stone is light in colour, and there is also a lot >of whitish-grey lichen which makes the forests special, especially close >to the tree line: > >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/lav.jpg > >We experienced snow, hail, and sleet on Sunday, but apart from that we >had great weather. > >Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 12:15:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BHFGWm002674 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:15:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:15:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062EC52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:15:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:15:15 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BHFFco017162 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:15:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.18]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511171514.BZLQ2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:15:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42823DA2.20904@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:15:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional English redux References: <20050511155105.362.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050511155105.362.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >After 41 years in the Heart of Dixie, I am 25% Yankee >and 20% Dixie. This proves to me that the things you >learn early are the things that stick with you. > > That is true (at least for the most part with most people). I do find myself switching at times between Yankee and Southern, though, presumably because I've spent most of my adult life around a fair number of Yankees. E.g., I've occasionally said grocery cart instead of grocery buggy. In some cases I've found myself talking Yankee more often than Southern -- e.g., saying grocery bag more often than grocery sack. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 12:15:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BHFaWm002723 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:15:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:15:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5A7A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:12:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:12:13 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BHCD9q016772 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:12:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.18]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511171212.BVVN2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:12:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42823CEB.7010102@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:12:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sales pitch continued References: <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Amazon must have his book in stock. I received notification overnight > that it has shipped already. I should have it by the weekend. I'm surprised. I thought it was POD (print on demand). I hope you got one printed since they corrected an error that was in the early printings. In moving the pictures to a different place, they stupidly left what was on the opposite side of the last picture in the glob, thus having you in Vietnam and Cambodia and suddenly landing in the middle of a sentence in Costa Rica. Meanwhile, I'm now packed for SF, hating everything in the suitcase, but it was just too confusing to figure out what to take. (I toyed briefly with the idea of sticking in my, formerly BB's, "Best Butt on Broadway" t-shirt to wear to the party, but I ruled it out since I don't want to embarrass BB among her non-Wordsler friends. I plan to behave for that reason.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 12:15:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BHFaWm002721 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:15:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:15:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5A798@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:10:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:10:02 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BH01Qo014780 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:00:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 59262 invoked by uid 1003); 11 May 2005 17:00:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:00:01 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( Message-ID: <20050511170001.GB54131@words-l.org> References: <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 08:01:23AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > > >Well, I'll bet that you can do your banking online too...even in > >Mississippi, which we all know is MUCH more advanced than Idaho. Uh > >huh. Sure. > > > > > What's the point? Like what is it that I would do online re banking? I > thought I'd asked that question yesterday, but maybe I just thought it > rather than asking it. I realize that "online banking" is an option and > has been for a long time, but I don't know how it works (other than > getting your bank statement online instead of in the mail -- I prefer to > get mine in the mail). So if I prefer to get my bank statement by mail, > why might I be interested in online banking? > > I use my physical bank for two things: its ATM (because it happens to > be very close to where I live -- in a location I pass every day) and my > safe-deposit box. How do you get cash or store valuables online? Natalie, Natalie, Natalie ..... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 12:15:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BHFaWm002719 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:15:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:15:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5A78A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:05:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:05:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BGtXe6013995 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:55:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 56882 invoked by uid 1003); 11 May 2005 16:55:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:55:32 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hmmmm Message-ID: <20050511165532.GA54131@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 08:48:17AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I was out of the library yesterday - driving to Albany and back to pick > up a new batch of papers that were donated to Special Collections. This > morning, one of my cow orkers greeted me with " Welcome back. I missed > your cheery cynicism yesterday." > > I think I like being described as a cheery cynic. Wake up, man ... when you encounter this kind of fucked English, you are among people who fancy they are "literate", although all they are are NPR-listeners ... or something ... and frankly, otnay ootay ightbray ... knowmsain. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 12:16:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BHGCWm002815 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:16:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:16:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5A77A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:16:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:16:12 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BHGCTi017328 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:16:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.18]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511171611.CAPD2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:16:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42823DDA.1060006@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:16:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050511155640.27843.qmail@web60712.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050511155640.27843.qmail@web60712.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >I have 3 checking accounts, no savings. Natalie, will >you nominate me for the Mutancy Mode? > > Membership is quite selective, but I will give you serious consideration on the basis of this information. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 12:17:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BHHFWm002896 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:17:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:17:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5A7BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:17:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:17:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BH7EFX016096 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:07:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 67907 invoked by uid 1003); 11 May 2005 17:07:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:07:13 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hmmmm Message-ID: <20050511170713.GC54131@words-l.org> References: <42821ADD.4060007@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42821ADD.4060007@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:46:53AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >I think I like being described as a cheery cynic. > > > Ok, you can now be CC, giving us both BB and CC. Surely we can find an > AA -- Arrogant Asshole. Then again, it could be Accommodating Angel, I > guess. I like it! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 12:53:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BHrdWm006778 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:53:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:53:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5A8E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:53:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 310079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:53:39 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BHrcfv022811 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:53:39 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 102927163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:53:38 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:53:37 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: San Francisco In-Reply-To: <42823CEB.7010102@maynor.net> References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Meanwhile, I'm now packed for SF, hating everything in the suitcase, but >it was just too confusing to figure out what to take. (I toyed briefly >with the idea of sticking in my, formerly BB's, "Best Butt on Broadway" >t-shirt to wear to the party, but I ruled it out since I don't want to >embarrass BB among her non-Wordsler friends. I plan to behave > for that reason.) > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) You could wear it to meet Myles. (You could wear it here, too.) This is going to be the unknown to have family, work friends, internet friends, and different list friends all together. Weather forecast looks good. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 13:09:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BI8sWm008499 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:08:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:09:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5A905@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:08:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 310976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:08:53 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BI8rCS024855 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:08:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.18]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511180853.ROJU2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:08:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:08:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Since I'm meeting him somewhere kind of sounding, I think it > might not be appropriate. And since it gets cold at night in SF, and Eek. There's even a dress code for the place. I just looked at the website he'd sent me the url for and read this: Dress Code: Jackets required for gentlemen; ties are optional; dressy casual for ladies; no jeans, sneakers, or shorts. from: http://www.carnelianroom.com/ I guess what I've packed can squeak through as . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 13:11:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BIBhWm008835 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:11:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:11:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062ED42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:01:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 310500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:01:42 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BI1fLK023887 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:01:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.18]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511180141.RGAO2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:01:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:01:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > You could wear it to meet Myles. Since I'm meeting him somewhere kind of sounding, I think it might not be appropriate. And since it gets cold at night in SF, and I'm meeting him at 7, I would need more body covering anyway. (It occurred to me a little while ago that I may fall asleep on him since I will have been up many, many hours by the time I meet him. My flight leaves here at 6something a.m., which means I'll need to leave home by about 5 a.m., which means I will probably get up before 3.a.m., which is 1 a.m. in the time zone I'm meeting him in tomorrow night.) > going to be the unknown to have family, work friends, internet > friends, and > different list friends all together. It sounds perfect! I love interesting conglomerations of people. > Weather forecast looks good. When I last checked it, it appeared to be for the kind of in-between weather that I have no clothes for. That kind of weather is nice, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 13:16:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BIFuWm009322 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:15:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:16:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5A97C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:15:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 311495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:15:56 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BIFtnh026113 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:15:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497AC991EA for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:15:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02679-03 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:15:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73C699011 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:15:52 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42824BD0.2040004@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:15:44 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.35 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> Yep. I never enter an online bank site without having run a spyware >> detector first. This I've made a rule for myself. And thus I use only >> one computer, this one at my disposal in the office, to visit the bank >> site. > > > I feel like such a Luddite. I've never visited a an online bank -- or > at least not as a customer. It's just the most convenient way to make paying orders that are not regular, to see how much money I've used during a certain period and on what (or, more exactly, where) I've spent it, and so make sure there are no outgoings I may know nothing about (like that a hacker doesn't have an access to my money) -- in a bank office I must pay for the information, etc., etc. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 13:19:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BIJMWm009718 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:19:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:19:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5A9A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:19:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 311694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:19:21 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BIJLlB026690 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:19:21 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:19:21 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:19:09 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Biting the Bullet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you add a third sentence about boarding up the house, or something similar, this is great ESL material BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/11/2005 11:36:56 AM >>> I just checked in for tomorrow's flights and have my boarding passes. But since much of this afternoon is going to be consumed by stuff like taking Spencer to be boarded... -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 13:40:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BIeTWm012018 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:40:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:40:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5AABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:40:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 314633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:40:29 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BIeTLv030172 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:40:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.18]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511184029.FSWO2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:40:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4282519B.2080106@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:40:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <42824BD0.2040004@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42824BD0.2040004@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > It's just the most convenient way to make paying orders that are not > regular, to see how much money I've used during a certain period and on > what (or, more exactly, where) I've spent it, and so make sure there are > no outgoings I may know nothing about (like that a hacker doesn't have > an access to my money) -- in a bank office I must pay for the > information, etc., etc. My bank statement shows very little about what I've spent money on or where. Some months I write no checks at all. It's my Visa statement that shows the what and where -- or at least the where. I must admit that I don't really look at the statements carefully when I get them, though. I just look at the bottom line and subtract it in my checkbook. I do pull out the statements at tax time and go through them to find deductible things in case I'm itemizing that year (or to try to figure out whether to itemize). I think I'm likely to continue itemizing every year now, though, because I've discovered that the cost of medical insurance is so exhorbitant (now that I'm retired) that it jacks my deductible expenses way up. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 13:42:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BIgWWm012394 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:42:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:42:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5AB15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:42:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 314724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:42:31 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BIgO4S030446 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:42:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.162.18]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511184224.FURF2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:42:24 -0400 Message-ID: <4282520E.7010602@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:42:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Biting the Bullet References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >If you add a third sentence about boarding up the house, or something >similar, this is great ESL material > > I hadn't even noticed! >>>>natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/11/2005 11:36:56 AM >>> >>>> >>>> > > I just checked in for tomorrow's flights and have my boarding >passes. > > But since much of this afternoon is going to be consumed by stuff >like taking Spencer to be boarded... > > Now I must send e-mail to the ARF Board about pending business. Then I'm going to clean up stuff in the yard, like where a truck accidentally dropped a board at the edge of the yard. After that I will board up the house. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:10:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJAUWm016986 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:10:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:10:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5AB3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:50:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 315288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:50:30 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BIoSWC031669 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:50:28 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 09DE430738B04 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:50:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c5565a$3d4c1990$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4282520E.7010602@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Biting the Bullet Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:50:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Now I must send e-mail to the ARF Board about pending business. Then > I'm going to clean up stuff in the yard, like where a truck accidentally > dropped a board at the edge of the yard. After that I will board up the > house. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I'm board by this whole conversation. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:10:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJAUWm016989 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:10:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:10:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5ABF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:09:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:09:11 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJ941g002638 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:09:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so310474wra for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.44.46 with SMTP id r46mr459454wrr; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HZCeoPcw0gssPm/MLyiUFFAHAbrC3At8G3crQkQR3xuLZdIgXXYurP8tcnt6P5G8t7Em65HbKUtEXCkFD6xJG8szA/MWNgOCUlgvRaL7DMKnCCtJeCK3l9Kf395dbhJI93dDxDHxsmH8NYywyR7UsV6tG2E1ssvLTcgdWoOJuC4= Message-ID: <4622719505051112095e94a758@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:09:04 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4BJ951g002641 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > Ohhh. So all people mean when they say "online banking" or "internet > banking" is looking at their bank info online? I've done that > occasionally. I was thinking that we were talking about some kind of > substitute for visiting brick-and-mortar banks. That's the part I Some banks (e.g. in Chicago) have been charging fees for face::face transactions. IIRC, the first time I saw the Trib talk about it (quite some time ago, technology relativity speaking), it was on the order of $3/visit. It can be done viia phone although that was generally done whilst waiting for online banking to take hold and now when away from home (as they said on NCIS last night, Ducky's PDA is a notepad & pencil - I don't have a PDA although I've throughout about getting a Blackberry with GPS to make one of my solutions come to fruition. > I also realize that one can do things like shuffle money between > checking accounts and savings accounts online, but that does not apply > to me since my only account is a checking account. You might want to consider putting it elsewhere and moving things to checking only when you need to - whilst paying the bills at one time. Otherwise, it's one forged check (or some stroke of luck on their part), one mistake on the part of the bank (or anyone else "on your side") and you're swirling around, trying to get a handle on smooth porcelain on your way to financial ruin [abeit temporary]. Keep it in a savings account which functions as a money market and (again), move the funds as needed. Even via phone, as previously discussed. You'd get your money back, but what will you do for currency in the meantime? "Thanks for fixing my car. I can't get around without it. You'll have to wait until they restore the contents of my bank account - then I can pay you." If it's not a car, plug in numerous aspects of your necessities of life and see how long you can function. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:10:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJAUWm016988 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:10:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:10:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5AB0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:51:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 314676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:51:28 -0400 Received: from mxfep03.bredband.com (mxfep03.bredband.com [195.54.107.76]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BIfQa1030310 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:41:27 -0400 Received: from mxfep03 ([195.54.107.76] [195.54.107.76]) by mxfep03.bredband.com with SMTP id <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:41:25 +0200 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.13.1 (webedge20-101-1100-20040114) From: To: , , , , , , , Subject: Taipei, day 3 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:41:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU After doing some administrative stuff for Dan and checking e-mail, I decided to take the subway to one of the stations that had obviously were near temples because the name of the station had temple in it. I happened to stumble over a web page (the internet must be the greatest invention ever!) that mentioned that Longshan Temple was the biggest and oldest in Taipei. Longshan Temple was a definite highlight of the trip. It was very busy there, not what I had expected. There was only a tiny broschure in English and I was obviously the only tourist. So I tried to be as inconspicuous as possible and put my camera away inside the temple area. I saw no signs about photography but I didn't want to anger anyone unnecessarily. I watched the people worship in fascination. I'm not sure exactly which god they were trying to convince to be benevolent towards them. Buddha isn't a god so it must have been some local god, like the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost. While watching the people, I felt a tiny pang of jealousy. I do not and cannot believe in any god but I must admit I am jealous of those who find peace in religion. I need to find that peace of mind without a god. I know it is possible but it ain't easy! Then I decided to be a tourist in my favorite way - to go shopping! But it isn't just any kind of shopping. I made my way down a side street and found the perfect kind of store for my type of shopping, a variety store - a nicer type of D&K or maybe even the local version of Wal-Mart. It had three floors and I think I was there for over an hour. There is so much to learn about a culture in these stores. What do they have, what don't they have, etc. compared to "my stores"? I then like to pick up some "weird" stuff, especially food stuffs and see if it is edible. Some observations: they don't have dandruff because they buy Head & Shoulders in huge pump bottles! They don't have tissues in the same way we do and I couldn't find cotton balls but they seem to be crazy about dental floss strung on small bow-like things (Plackers?). Underwear and undershirts are sold EVERYWHERE, as well as wash cloths. I bought a can of asparagus juice, a thingy that helps you put your hair in a bun (impressed I found it in brown), stainless steel chopsticks (purists are probably cringing at the thought), instant coffee (they weren't generous with refills at breakfast and they had a water cooker in the hotel room), and a bunch of other small items. Fun! Fun! Fun!! Same problem with lunch today as yesterday. I was actually on my way to the Golden Arches (!) when I came across a place called Cheeze and since the sign was in English, the menu is bound to be too. Wrong. Once I was seated, I could see the waitresses out of the corner of my eye, watching me with smiles on their faces to see if I could read Chinese. I pulled out my note and problem solved! Jetlag was killing me and I retired to the hotel to rest my eyes, after talking to Torkel via Skype for quite a while. Dinner was a hoot! Johnson and Martin took us to a dim sum (dumplings) restaurant. I ate some Dan Dan noodles, which are noodles in a peanut sauce, some vegetarian dum sum and lots of Taiwan beer. I can't, however, get more than a tiny buzz of the stuff. It is quite weak. I had a great time stuffing my face and we had an interesting discussion about my visit to the temple. Lars was much more talkative this evening. However, I prefer when he keeps his mouth shut. I was trying to learn about why they threw two moon-shaped pieces of wood on the floor at the temple and the reasoning behind it and he kept interrupting with annoying comments about how stupid that is. Well, yes, I don't believe in it, either. But I wanna know why! Grrrrrr..... Tomorrow: more problems as a vegetarian and the Night Market.... Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:13:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJDFWm017387 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:13:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:13:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5AC14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:13:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:13:15 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJDF4c003349 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:13:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.84]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511191315.NCEI2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:13:15 -0400 Message-ID: <4282594A.9010709@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:13:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> In-Reply-To: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >so much to learn about a culture in these stores. What do they have, >what don't they have, etc. compared to "my stores"? I then like to > > I like that also. And love,judith likes to do it with US grocery stores -- like how the types and quantities of certain foods vary regionally. She enjoyed studying the grits shelves when visiting me. (Japanese visitors are fascinated by our meager rice shelves -- and the tiny sizes of our rice bags.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:24:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJNxWm018866 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062EF5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:05:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 316723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:05:28 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJ5Sae001990 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:05:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.84]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511190527.MTRL2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:05:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42825776.3000902@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:05:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Maters Maters! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just noticed that I've got some little tomatoes coming along. No wonder the birds are spending more and more time sitting on the rail around the tomato garden licking their chops. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:24:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJNxWm018864 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062EE4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:03:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 316624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:03:58 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJ3wtu001778 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:03:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724D09963C for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:03:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07725-01 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:03:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A10A99602 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:03:56 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42825713.6060508@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:03:47 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Cup, a movie X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm afraid today I'll be caught by sudden sleepyness again just like it was yesterday, as it's quite late in the evening again. Thus, although I guess there are messages to be answered I first want to share a nice experience: in a small club Khyentse Norbu's film Phörpa - The Cup was shown. _____________________ From http://www.siddharthasintent.org/Pubs/Phorpa.htm: A surprise hit at the 1999 Cannes Film Festival, this comic tale of soccer-mad young monks obsessed with viewing the World Cup, is the first feature film from Bhutanese lama Khyentse Norbu, and the first from an eminent teacher of Tibetan Buddhism. The Cup takes place at Chokling Monastery, situated in the foothills of the Himalayas over the mountains from Tibet, and stars authentic members of the monastic community, all non-actors, all playing characters like themselves. Based on a true story, The Cup takes a refreshing, humorous and sometimes poignant look at Tibetan refugee life through the experience of the young monks and their teachers. _________________________ A very nice thing -- humorous, hearty, caring. Different chacacters of the boys who were like boys ever, like they are everywhere no matter whether they are monks, several of them (2-3) reborn lamas, living their merry lives with normal boys' games and interests. Khyentse Norbu was born in 1961, and taking into consideration it was his first film he must be a born film maker -- so well it was made. And now I go on reading your all messages. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:24:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJNxWm018867 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062EF92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:16:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:16:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJG8fj003631 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:16:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so406615nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr363893nzd; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:16:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oW9zK3JDzsb3tkGZIhWkMfkgPm5o6hpKIm6kXTPjdRlon6hZaQBKiEac55sHodjmh3sHV4ElvX14Y5yo1k+tP/bgI0O4W0WvGOcAHqutKSOFFlgep8AUUArUcvt1hav/f7pMP0S5V2dPoqx/haYz/cstt9Sw72XN9UHBw2/eMHE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051112162678191c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:16:08 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <4622719505051112095e94a758@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> <4622719505051112095e94a758@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BJNxWm018867 On 5/11/05, phil paxton wrote: > > Some banks (e.g. in Chicago) have been charging fees for face::face > transactions. And in CA and OR for the past 10 years or so. My god, I sound like Dan. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:24:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJOcWm018965 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5ABE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:14:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:14:38 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJEbiE003491 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:14:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.222.100.84]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511191437.NDHB2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:14:37 -0400 Message-ID: <4282599C.7020002@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:14:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Biting the Bullet References: <4282520E.7010602@maynor.net> <000801c5565a$3d4c1990$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000801c5565a$3d4c1990$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I'm board by this whole conversation. Not fair! I thought about saying that but decided that they had to be homographic. But it might be close to mention that I almost got boared by the wild boar running through the yard. I guess not, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:24:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJOcWm018967 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5AC2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:18:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:18:51 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BJIojH003947 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:18:51 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051121171204306 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:17:12 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 11 May 2005 21:18:49 +0200 Message-ID: <42825A99.6010807@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:18:49 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cup, a movie References: <42825713.6060508@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42825713.6060508@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 19:18:50.0025 (UTC) FILETIME=[42F5D990:01C5565E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv skrev 11.05.2005 21:03: > I'm afraid today I'll be caught by sudden sleepyness again just like it > was yesterday, as it's quite late in the evening again. Thus, although I > guess there are messages to be answered I first want to share a nice > experience: in a small club Khyentse Norbu's film Phörpa - The Cup was > shown. A very good film! The scene where the young novices nailed the older monk's clothes to the bench in the recitation hall was great! Norbu said in an interview I found somewhere on the web that the wildest novices often became the best monks. I believe that he wrote the script in Buthanese (not standard Tibetan) and then had it translated into Tibetan. I have not seen his second movie, which I believe was placed in Buthan. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:24:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJOcWm018968 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:24:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5ABE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:15:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:15:16 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJFFcY003563 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:15:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D6E9960F for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:15:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09256-07 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:15:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D24F99602 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:15:14 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428259B9.2010508@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:15:05 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.109 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >5/10/2005, 8:26 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: > >KS> I thought "debit cards" required PINs. > > >>>Mine has no PIN. >>> >>> > >KS> Mine has. How can you prove in a shop or hotel, if >KS> needed, that this is >KS> your card you are using? > >They require a PIN in a FTF transaction. They don't on the web, for >example. Of course you're stupid to use a debit card on the web, >instead of credit card, since you have NO protection against fraud. > Now, this is interesting. When I bought the plane ticket for Uku online it was said on the site of the company that buying a ticket with a debit card (Visa) was cheaper. After having consulted with a bank worker it came out, though, that my Visa debit card won't suit, so I bought the ticket with my credit card. But I didn't know it was more safe. Is it really? How does a credit card have the protection, or a better protection, against fraud? (This is a question, I'm not trying to talk back.) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:37:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJbPWm020856 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:37:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:37:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5AC50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:36:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:36:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJaipd006125 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:36:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so425097wri for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.13.77 with SMTP id 77mr629779wrm; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:36:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=t7qSEYAb64uUM6sJcKQr/6v6NudYWLNOgXT5gCIOTyTSF8dVCv/dHuVu2MxZYq1C0q7D2BwRLiKEA10KZL+dDXD4yQJt0wwLsGiofeKtyRIJhdbS8Y1jOmtf91co+U+4/mFsrdgLTm+GAa8d2zwywsb4gxAq7CW3yZUvaqCsZNM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:36:44 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional English redux In-Reply-To: <42823DA2.20904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050511155105.362.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com> <42823DA2.20904@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BJbPWm020856 On 5/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: of Yankees. E.g., I've occasionally said grocery cart instead of grocery buggy. "Shopping cart" In some cases I've found myself talking Yankee more often than Southern -- e.g., saying grocery bag more often than grocery sack. Just "bag" -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:37:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJbPWm020855 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:37:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:37:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5AC77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:32:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:32:48 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJWlMD005735 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:32:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520F397749 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:32:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11341-05 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:32:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E07973A5 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:32:45 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42825DD5.8090309@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:32:37 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <001201c5558b$5e5c9cb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4281063A.3060706@akad.ee> <322471523.20050511003723@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <322471523.20050511003723@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.346 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >5/10/2005, 1:06 PM, Kristin Sarv wrote: > >KS> Yes. However friendly and polite the message may >KS> seem. That kind of >KS> cheatings here have been very clumsy and full of >KS> writing mistakes so far > >But >also consider that those dumb enough to fall for that crap probably >wouldn't know bad grammar or spelling if it bit them in the ass. > LOL. That didn't occur to me! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:37:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJbPWm020854 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:37:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:37:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5AC70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:28:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:28:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJSrDt005204 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:28:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so318203wra for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.133.2 with SMTP id g2mr444832wrd; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:28:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TMewAEpruEj1mF8gJXJOz13xajcDaT3KlQRjr+0fopxZIZYv/3Zds2fsCfg/+917O3ZF9wF78PrtKXkOTd/aMA9si1XDVgHUJ1llx/q45Fuog+6UWVCRs+z2G7uneTfVilYE40/hyHRwkvQaHDUSNTx3d7/jMWhmkNN8P9uJYnQ= Message-ID: <462271950505111228208711c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:28:52 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <732679369.20050511004536@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <001201c5558b$5e5c9cb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4281063A.3060706@akad.ee> <46227195050510124047400bc3@mail.gmail.com> <732679369.20050511004536@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4BJSrDt005206 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/11/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Ah Hah....went to Taylor. and know your current community a bit from We played soccer with student coaches and went fifteen years without losing more than two games per season. My senior year they decided it was time to stop burdening that member of the team and used someone who volunteered but knew nothing about the game. We always had a private play (amongst team members) to take a bad referee out of the play at hand and never used it. Unfortunately, we never developed one for taking out the coach. Not unlike Bill "Pegleg" Veeck (reference: he had the midget with the uniform number "1/8" who had a 3" strike zone), it was said any additional rules added and old rules enforced, making it such there was roughly 1/2 more rules after we moved off-campus my senior years as a result of our "free time". Since that time, I've been told I should write a book by those who followed behind. The problem is there are too many things I'd have to censor or I'd have to face a suit from Taylor, claiming the events never happened. We had to be very careful about some things. At the time, I was one of three EMTs within a 20 minute drive [of the SE side] of the hospital. The time we almost killed a cleaning lady (Dorothy, 4'7") with a tarantula (one of those the size of my spread palm - a wild one, not a pet) while she was vacuuming *almost* made us slow down a bit. > visits to cousins in Noblesville and vicinity. Noblesville. County seat. Mobile home trailer park 2-3 blocks from the downtown square. I have nothing against it - we eat up there once or twice every two or three weeks. The trailer reference has just been an amusement. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:37:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJbPWm020857 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:37:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:37:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5AC84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:31:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:31:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJVQhC005596 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:31:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so319116wra for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.19 with SMTP id f19mr454467wrb; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 12:31:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f0cM+WAq0yZquepVVxV6hmGa7+AlWbqqOA/46g9wZwiUUCgotpU+rMOiCbeuAgU7zQsTrSYcngPpUfjAiyn/8/TFyb2KjR0XsGsj6Y/Mt9oYIdF2Pf1na4W9iJWR9xwELPo8YK3ZXZl/HSquUVeh2Q5Ihr6zpsvQ1qLHkM4iJ48= Message-ID: <4622719505051112311460249c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:31:25 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Maters Maters! In-Reply-To: <42825776.3000902@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42825776.3000902@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4BJVQhC005597 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I just noticed that I've got some little tomatoes coming along. No > wonder the birds are spending more and more time sitting on the rail > around the tomato garden licking their chops. Time for a rubber owl and a pie pan attached to a stick with cord. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:37:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJbPWm020849 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:37:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:37:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5AC66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:27:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:27:25 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJROZx004953 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:27:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7117097BA2 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:27:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10650-03 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:27:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id B186697A55 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:27:21 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42825C91.8030608@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:27:13 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <4280C9B3.6060007@akad.ee> <489616280.20050511000348@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <489616280.20050511000348@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.345 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >5/10/2005, 8:48 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: > >KS> That's how I understand it as well. Never saw an ATM >KS> card, only have >KS> read about it in this service, but my everyday card >KS> is a debit card > >Some Americans still use the antiquated term "ATM card" for a debit >card. The ATM Card term was in vogue in late 70s to early 80s when >banks started issuing their own ATM cards good only at that chain of >banks. Of course they eventually merged together, > Thanks for the explanation. Yesterday when reading messages I started grabbing, step by step, what an ATM card actually was. Here in Estonia the banks in Soviet times were no banks, actually, so banks, as you all know them to be like, started to develop abt 15 years ago (well, there were *real* banks in 1920s-1930s, but these are beyond my, or even my parents' experience). So, I have never written a cheque, and I guess very few people in Estonia have, for the development of banks and that of the digital ways of banking actually began together. That's why I mostly can use the modern ways of several kinds of bank deals but am quite ignorant about the "good old" ones, having only read about them in novels and short stories, and seen in films. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:46:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJkgWm021906 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:46:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:46:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5AD0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:46:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:46:42 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJkfNA007625 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:46:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2656F97CD6 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:46:41 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12706-04 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:46:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E71978F3 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:46:39 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42826116.8000801@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:46:30 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cup, a movie References: <42825713.6060508@akad.ee> <42825A99.6010807@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42825A99.6010807@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.347 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > Kristin Sarv skrev : > >> to share a nice >> experience: in a small club Khyentse Norbu's film Phörpa - The Cup was >> shown. > > > A very good film! The scene where the young novices nailed the older > monk's clothes to the bench in the recitation hall was great! Funny that this is the first thing you mention. But then, why not! I enjoyed the expressions of the naughty boys, in their classes and during prayer-sayings, and elsewhere. > Norbu said > in an interview I found somewhere on the web that the wildest novices > often became the best monks. Yes, and remember what Geko said to the naughtiest one who was the biggest football fan, at the end of the movie -- "you're so bad in business that you most certainly become a good [...]" (what? lama?) > I have not seen his second movie, which I believe was placed in > Buthan. It was told about a bit in the club. I hope I'll see it some time. And when speaking about movies, there was a heartwarming Norwegian movie on ETV recently -- Buddies. I enjoyed it very much. And a week or so earlier I watched "Italian for Beginners" -- mainly Danish film, but didn't Norwegians, too, participate in making it, did they? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 14:56:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BJtrWm022692 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:55:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:56:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5AD5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:55:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 319993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:55:53 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BJtpLd008981 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:55:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8022C99599 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:55:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13279-02 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:55:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD682996B6 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:55:48 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4282633B.2020806@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:55:39 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: A-a-lec! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.347 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hey, having a cake? Listening to songs from best friends? I hope you have a good day. Happy Birthday! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 15:06:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BK6oWm024100 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:06:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:06:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5AD6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:06:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 320850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:06:50 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BK6n7S002585 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:06:49 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id B476299658 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:06:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14053-02 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:06:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC5C99659 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:00:10 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42826441.6000509@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:00:01 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.348 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Betty Clark wrote: > >> You could wear it to meet Myles. > > > I'm meeting him at 7, I would need more body covering anyway. > My flight > leaves here at 6something a.m., which means I'll need to leave home by > about 5 a.m., which means I will probably get up before 3.a.m., which is > 1 a.m. in the time zone I'm meeting him in tomorrow night.) Have a nice trip and give my best wishes,too, to Myles, please. Kristin, hurrying away from the office for today From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 15:07:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BK7AWm024146 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:07:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:07:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5ADAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:07:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 320860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:07:09 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BK79Fp002636 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:07:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB039989A for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:07:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14073-03 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:07:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA91995D5 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:01:46 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428264A1.1020508@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:01:37 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.348 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Since I'm meeting him somewhere kind of sounding, I think it >> might not be appropriate. And since it gets cold at night in SF, and > > > Eek. There's even a dress code for the place. I just looked at the > website he'd sent me the url for and read this: > > Dress Code: > Jackets required for gentlemen; ties are optional; dressy casual for > ladies; no jeans, sneakers, or shorts. > from: http://www.carnelianroom.com/ LOL. Wouldn't *the* T-shirt be considered as casual? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 15:08:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BK88Wm024207 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:08:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:08:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062EFA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:08:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 320175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:08:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BJw5MS009514 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:58:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 95490 invoked by uid 1003); 11 May 2005 19:58:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:58:05 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco Message-ID: <20050511195805.GA94415@words-l.org> References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 01:08:52PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Since I'm meeting him somewhere kind of sounding, I think it > >might not be appropriate. And since it gets cold at night in SF, and > > Eek. There's even a dress code for the place. I just looked at the > website he'd sent me the url for and read this: > > Dress Code: > Jackets required for gentlemen; ties are optional; dressy casual for > ladies; no jeans, sneakers, or shorts. > from: http://www.carnelianroom.com/ > > I guess what I've packed can squeak through as . Natalie, Natalie, Natalie ... It's California. You can wear ANYTHING. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 15:25:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BKPBWm025555 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:25:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:25:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5AE4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:25:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 322124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:25:11 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BKP9HS005908 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:25:10 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051122233104404 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:23:31 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 11 May 2005 22:25:08 +0200 Message-ID: <42826A24.3010105@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:25:08 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cup, a movie References: <42825713.6060508@akad.ee> <42825A99.6010807@gmail.com> <42826116.8000801@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42826116.8000801@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2005 20:25:09.0013 (UTC) FILETIME=[869F3C50:01C55667] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv skrev 11.05.2005 21:46: > > And when speaking about movies, there was a heartwarming Norwegian movie > on ETV recently -- Buddies. I enjoyed it very much. And a week or so > earlier I watched "Italian for Beginners" -- mainly Danish film, but > didn't Norwegians, too, participate in making it, did they? > "Buddies" takes place mainly in the area of Oslo where I live. Italian for beginners is only Danish as far as I know, but I am not sure. The actor who plays the vicar there has appeared in quite a lot of recent Danish films! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 15:28:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BKSjWm025824 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:28:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:28:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5AE79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:28:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 322455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:28:45 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BKSiLR006482 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:28:45 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so257845rne for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.92.51 with SMTP id p51mr622374rnb; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.51 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 13:28:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=S7pkI30PkSgAdTuuVHndHRfMGIOFNgqA53lpINsm6ELkPGjqFE6ICzVVoRXSgwt9OMNiuWjyzJgAW+kur3Eh4hxuvMugLiXoeO4+2rUdzRVuGrdDkwgE/XHtn3MH1UTnukTqGP1l/GpxFQlCEXOrP2XaLf75jR9+tFHdxLcXl4Y= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:28:44 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Biting the Bullet In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4BKSjLR006483 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "The grounds are excellent!" Tony H. On 5/11/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > If you add a third sentence about boarding up the house, or something > similar, this is great ESL material > > BrP > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/11/2005 11:36:56 AM >>> > > I just checked in for tomorrow's flights and have my boarding > passes. > > But since much of this afternoon is going to be consumed by stuff > like taking Spencer to be boarded... > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 15:55:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BKtDWm028513 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:55:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:55:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5AF44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:55:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 323559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:55:13 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4BKjCAf008527 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:45:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 21661 invoked by uid 1003); 11 May 2005 20:45:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:45:11 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Biting the Bullet Message-ID: <20050511204511.GA20544@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This post has been cancelled. Thanks On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 04:28:44PM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > "The grounds are excellent!" > > Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 16:37:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BLatWm000338 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:36:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:36:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B12E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:36:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 328402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:36:54 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BLapth015729 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:36:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B12C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:36:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200505112136.j4BLapth015729@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:36:50 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A-a-lec! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:55:39 +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: >Hey, having a cake? Listening to songs from best friends? > >I hope you have a good day. Happy Birthday! > >Kristin HB, Alec! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 16:39:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BLdCWm000705 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:39:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:39:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062F3A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:39:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 328457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:39:12 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BLdCo4015984 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:39:12 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B0E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:39:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200505112139.j4BLdCo4015984@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:39:12 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: San Francisco To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 11 May 2005 13:08:52 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Since I'm meeting him somewhere kind of sounding, I think it >> might not be appropriate. And since it gets cold at night in SF, and > >Eek. There's even a dress code for the place. I just looked at the >website he'd sent me the url for and read this: > >Dress Code: >Jackets required for gentlemen; ties are optional; dressy casual for >ladies; no jeans, sneakers, or shorts. >from: http://www.carnelianroom.com/ > >I guess what I've packed can squeak through as . > Say hello to everyone for me. Wish I could be there! clo working on a 3rd 18 hr day in a row. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 16:41:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BLf3Wm000978 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:41:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:41:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B0EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:41:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 328535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:41:02 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BLf0vw016195 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:41:00 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 6080DBE8C9; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E33C2849 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:40:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco In-Reply-To: <20050511195805.GA94415@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 11 May 2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Natalie, Natalie, Natalie ... > > It's California. You can wear ANYTHING. Not in the Carnelian Room. It's not in California, it's in Carnelia. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 17:20:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BMK1Wm005372 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:20:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:20:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5B1BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:09:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 329891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:10:00 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BM9xSl018973 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:09:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so371842wra for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.40 with SMTP id e40mr509290wra; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:09:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ezOSdJ1n+XT2LPycEfIdQf6o6wqOi3ym7pQiLeEGEGUN3ETLi6e6l6inQmkBUvnCW0uP4G+PGdAvf5J4Lu1yrVM+rwgtxLQjLw+HGatN1eqinJilnKGSgb0JrYll4qW11cRlCXRhtg2Qfk8/QGJmKju4+uz7UUHGx5ATM0Zeg7w= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:09:59 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience In-Reply-To: <42809AB3.4090505@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> <427FDEEB.9070807@maynor.net> <13510409364.20050510013511@gailndan.com> <42809AB3.4090505@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BMK1Wm005372 > > You edited out Bonnie's posting that I was replying to. She quite > clearly said *ATM CARD*. There may be other kinds of ATM cards in the > world, but the kind I'm familiar with take money from your bank > account. There's no "bill" or "balance" involved in any way. > -- Natalie And that is indeed what I was talking about. Not a credit card. Not a debit card. An ATM card. There didn't seem to be any additional charges added on. But I imagine there were some hidden ones involved in figuring the exchange rate. The most horrible service charge we encountered was changing the 200 Kroner bill back to US dollars at the Detroit airport. I spent what Norwegian coins we had left on duty free candy bars back in Norway. And I bought two gifts at the Bergen airport shop. But we had this 200 Kroner bill left. It was either throw or give it away or take whatever cash they were willing to give us. I got $24 for it after the $5.50 service fee was charged. Insane. I paid about $32 for that 200 kroner bill. So it goes. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 17:38:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BMcEWm007067 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:38:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:38:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B2C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:38:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 332501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:38:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BMc9U9021739 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:38:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so473555nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.10 with SMTP id s10mr480691nzc; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:38:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cS5nTTTqEfGFyvzv9ezyBBV/QDETUCdbJjrssZr6BLaUlaJg0iyBbfNxxv7Sm8EvgQUH/VP7lIlnRHSJELiJFDgzfEtifYd863OJyCADPdUNtNEXwgKK9XyV0/0OjYVUGULsPXYb2QwwylBSE/PXielmHv9XCk5RAsADYmGpnQ8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051115387185b8a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:38:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BMcEWm007067 On 5/11/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > I watched the people worship in fascination. I'm not > sure exactly which god they were trying to convince to be benevolent > towards them. How do you know that that's what they were doing? While watching the > people, I felt a tiny pang of jealousy. I do not and cannot believe > in any god but I must admit I am jealous of those who find peace in > religion. I need to find that peace of mind without a god. I know it > is possible but it ain't easy! Not all god-believers have peace of mind. I would guess that most do not. Then I decided to be a tourist in my favorite way - to go shopping! > But it isn't just any kind of shopping. I made my way down a side street > and found the perfect kind of store for my type of shopping, a variety > store - a nicer type of D&K or maybe even the local version of Wal-Mart. I LOVE this type of tourism! I then like to > pick up some "weird" stuff, especially food stuffs and see if it is > edible. I try to mail Paul a package now and again, and when I do, I always include a variety of weird food stuffs. Underwear and undershirts are sold EVERYWHERE, as well as wash cloths. Because during the summer, everyone carries a washcloth with them to wipe the sweat--and probably wants to be able to change underwear if they sweat through it. I bought a can of asparagus juice, a thingy that helps you put your > hair in a bun (impressed I found it in brown), stainless steel > chopsticks (purists are probably cringing at the thought), After I left Japan, it took me years before I could stand eating with metal utensils. I finally resigned myself to the ucky taste and now I don't really notice it. But I'd never choose metal chopsticks. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 17:43:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BMhmWm007535 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:43:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:43:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B2F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:43:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 332875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:43:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BMhmUR022184 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:43:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so381910wra for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.24 with SMTP id v24mr536625wrv; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 15:43:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=k71kNvGRknkP160E1B9xwNPP/2DNtMSHcGUc8p8iwkhTKtMp+CSMGIy3oNNZhJ7d1MQn1PlswVrulrEDaBJnlzBwTdct1ESb+v2dNzXnylSSGCyzCTMfA69uId/I1G37GMvyWeNf3T5dDTU9DhFXcmDJqZtsAK1USeFtab+kEyo= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:43:45 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's sales pitch In-Reply-To: <4280AD16.1040804@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> <4280A710.1020703@bc.edu> <4280AD16.1040804@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4BMhmWm007535 > > Rita Leonard wrote: > >> entire span of my life > > > Uh, so far, that is :-) > > Whew! -- Natalie > Which reminds me of one those Maine old-codger jokes: Tourist: "Have you lived here all your life?" Maine Old-Codger: "Not yet." -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 17:45:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BMjLWm007671 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:45:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:45:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B2FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:45:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 332983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:45:21 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BMjIpS022325 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:45:20 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4BMjGG3013761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:45:17 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j4BMjGCh013759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:45:16 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:45:16 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: back home Message-ID: <20050511224516.GA13703@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:59:39AM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: = That's when the fun began. Passport control went quickly. Then we got to = the departure gate, where first our boarding passes were scrutinized; then = we were directed to a podium behind which stood a man who went through the = litany: where are you coming from, did you pack your own luggage, = etc.---while scanning our passports and scrutinizing our boarding cards. = Having satisfied his curiosity, we then went through a complete security = screening: bags on the belt, all metal things in the tray, and once again, = the scrutiny of our boarding passes. One gets the feeling that there is some = code that, a security type having seen it, wins themselves a big prize. Then eh, no. this is pretty much standard proc. on flying to the states from schiphol. the podium people are especially bad. one of them managed to match up my passport with pat, which left them deranged when trying to match pat's passport with me! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 18:09:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BN9jWm010646 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:09:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:09:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B3C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:09:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 334555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:09:45 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BN9iTe024628 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:09:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511230944.PTDD2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:09:44 -0400 Message-ID: <428290B7.6010308@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:09:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> <4622719505051112095e94a758@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505051112095e94a758@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >Some banks (e.g. in Chicago) have been charging fees for face::face >transactions. IIRC, the first time I saw the Trib talk about it >(quite some time ago, technology relativity speaking), it was on the >order of $3/visit. > > Like you have to pay $3 to have somebody let you into your safe-deposit box or to get travelers' cheques? What a bummer. Do the banks that charge a fee for dealing with a teller or drive-up window up their ATM maximums to off-set that -- as in if you want to get $1,000 in cash, I'm pretty sure that at my bank you can't do it at an ATM -- you have to do it with a teller. So I would think that if they're going to start charging to use the services of a teller, they'd also let you get more from the ATM. With advanced planning, you could get around the problem, of course, since the ATM limits I'm aware of are daily limits. So if the limit is $500 a day, you could simply go two days in a row to get your $1,000 or four days to get your $2,000 or whatever. Today's snail-mail was funny in that it brought two things relevant to our current discussion: one was my Visa statement, the other a check for the rent on my Starkville house. And that check reminded me of another use of my bank that I had forgotten since in Starkville I didn't have to do this. In Starkville the check from Dan Camp was deposited automatically into my checking account, and what I got in the mail was the little slip showing the rent and the deductions. After I closed that account in Starkville, Annie (Dan's assistant) started mailing me the check instead of taking it to NBC. I could no doubt ask her to mail it to my bank in Jackson instead of to me, but since she mails me the little slip anyway, I'd hate to ask her to double mail. And it's really quite easy for me to drive by my bank and deposit the check. It's about two minutes from my house, and I'm out and about in its vicinity constantly. I don't know how internet banking would help that situation unless Dan Camp got into internet transfers and such, which is highly unlikely since he doesn't even do e-mail. >>I also realize that one can do things like shuffle money between >>checking accounts and savings accounts online, but that does not apply >>to me since my only account is a checking account. >> >> >You might want to consider putting it elsewhere and moving things to >checking only when you need to - whilst paying the bills at one time. >Otherwise, it's one forged check (or some stroke of luck on their >part), one mistake on the part of the bank (or anyone else "on your >side") and you're swirling around, trying to get a handle on smooth >porcelain on your way to financial ruin [abeit temporary]. > That sounds like far more trouble than I'm willing to tolerate. I've been using checking accounts for the past forty-five years and have yet to have anything aberrant happen. I'm willing to take my chances and continue my life of simplicity. > Keep it in >a savings account which functions as a money market and (again), move >the funds as needed. Even via phone, as previously discussed. > > Too much bother. My income is automatically spat into my checking account, and most of my outgo is automatically grabbed from my checking account. I'm happy with that arrangement. >You'd get your money back, but what will you do for currency in the >meantime? "Thanks for fixing my car. I can't get around without it. > You'll have to wait until they restore the contents of my bank >account - then I can pay you." If it's not a car, plug in numerous >aspects of your necessities of life and see how long you can function. > > It's not as if I don't have any other source of liquid money. If I needed to, I could always write a check on my AIG-Valic account. Investment accounts normally have little blobs of loose money that end up there for one reason or another, and checks can be written to retrieve that money (or maybe to retrieve invested money, though I would not want to do that without consulting Alyson, the person in charge of such stuff -- the person who left her car in my garage a couple of weeks ago when flying to Las Vegas). Or I could walk into my bank and say that I needed a loan to cover paying the mechanic or whoever. That would be a bother, I realize, but it would take more than a few minutes, would involve very little interest, and would be not likely to be needed anyway. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 18:17:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BNHLWm011192 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:17:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:17:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B413@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:17:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 335196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:17:21 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BNHLuk025434 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:17:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511231721.QBAB2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:17:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4282927F.10603@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:17:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <428259B9.2010508@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <428259B9.2010508@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > ticket with my credit card. But I didn't know it was more safe. Is it > really? How does a credit card have the protection, or a better > protection, against fraud? (This is a question, I'm not trying to talk > back.) I'm sure it varies in different places, but I think most credit cards in the US include automatic protection making you liable for only $50 of fraudulent charges. From what I've heard about debit cards, that is not a general feature, though I feel sure that depends on the bank -- that some do offer similar protection against fraudulent use. There are stories floating around (quite likely ULs) about people's whole checking accounts being wiped out because of a stolen debit card. I'm laughing at your parenthetical last sentence -- laughing because I find it strange and annoying that so often on Words-L when somebody asks a question, somebody else assumes that it's "talking back" or rather than asking a question because you're interested in the answer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 18:22:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BNMVWm011570 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:22:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:22:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B47C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:22:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 335431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:22:31 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BNMUe1025820 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:22:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511232230.QGLV2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:22:30 -0400 Message-ID: <428293B5.6080200@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:22:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Maters Maters! References: <42825776.3000902@maynor.net> <4622719505051112311460249c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505051112311460249c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >>I just noticed that I've got some little tomatoes coming along. No >>wonder the birds are spending more and more time sitting on the rail >>around the tomato garden licking their chops. >> >> >Time for a rubber owl and a pie pan attached to a stick with cord. > > Been there, done that. The birds love it -- sitting on the owl's head is especially fun. But re my little tomatoes, you weren't here when I was chagrined at having accidentally bought tomatoes that were slow-producers (according to what their cards said -- cards I read after getting home with them). I planted them in late March, which means that it would be logical to expect pickable tomatoes by late May. But these little cards said 90 days instead of 60 days. The idea of having to wait until June to have pickable tomatoes was upsetting to me. It looks as if these will have at least a few pickable ones by late May, though. As I said, the birds are delighted. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 18:35:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BNZMWm012717 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:35:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:35:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5B50B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:35:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:35:22 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BNZL6R027581 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:35:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511233521.DZGW2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:35:21 -0400 Message-ID: <428296B8.2050406@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:35:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional English redux References: <20050511155105.362.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com> <42823DA2.20904@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >of Yankees. E.g., I've occasionally said grocery cart instead of >grocery buggy. > "Shopping cart" > > Ooh. I would never say "shopping cart." That sounds way weird to my ears. > In some cases I've found myself talking Yankee more >often than Southern -- e.g., saying grocery bag more often than grocery >sack. > Just "bag" > > In this case I added "grocery" to indicate that the word "bag" is used in some contexts in Southern English. I would say just "sack" or "bag" if the context was obvious. For groceries the Southern term has traditionally been "sack," but I find myself saying "bag" pretty often. There are other contexts when "bag" is used in the South, though. E.g., there are poor and rural Southerners who grew up wearing seed-bag dresses and shirts. "Sack" would not have been used in that context. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 18:38:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BNbwWm013014 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:37:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:38:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5B51C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:37:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:37:57 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BNbuBY027832 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:37:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511233756.EBIV2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:37:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42829753.6030607@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:37:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> <20050511195805.GA94415@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050511195805.GA94415@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Natalie, Natalie, Natalie ... > >It's California. You can wear ANYTHING. > > This is true. But Mules is not a native Californian and has perhaps not yet been there long enough to shake off all of his Eastern hang-ups. And just as I would not want to embarrass BB among her non-Wordsler friends, I would not want to embarrass Mylesykins in a public setting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 18:39:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BNcxWm013184 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:39:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:39:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5B520@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:38:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:38:58 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BNcwV5027883 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:38:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511233858.ECEL2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:38:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42829791.1010303@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:38:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42826441.6000509@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42826441.6000509@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Have a nice trip and give my best wishes,too, to Myles, please. Thank you, and I will (do the latter -- and I hope the former). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 18:42:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4BNgcWm013582 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:42:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:42:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B555@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:42:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:42:37 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BNgb6b028250 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:42:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511234237.EFHJ2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:42:37 -0400 Message-ID: <4282986C.5010201@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:42:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> <428264A1.1020508@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <428264A1.1020508@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > LOL. Wouldn't *the* T-shirt be considered as casual? The word "casual" is a very interesting one re clothing. Usually when that particular word is used, it does not mean at all what you might think "casual" means -- it means pretty gussied-up. It's not a word used re attire by the jeans-and-t-shirt crowd (of which I consider myself a part, though I'm willing to adapt when in other settings). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:10:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0AEWm016275 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:10:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:10:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B590@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:50:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:50:14 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BNoDhc028735 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:50:13 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103047386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 16:50:10 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511164907.027757f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:50:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: San Francisco In-Reply-To: <4282986C.5010201@maynor.net> References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> <428264A1.1020508@akad.ee> <4282986C.5010201@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:42 PM 5/11/2005, you wrote: >Kristin Sarv wrote: > >>LOL. Wouldn't *the* T-shirt be considered as casual? > >The word "casual" is a very interesting one re clothing. Usually when >that particular word is used, it does not mean at all what you might >think "casual" means -- it means pretty gussied-up. It's not a word >used re attire by the jeans-and-t-shirt crowd (of which I consider >myself a part, though I'm willing to adapt when in other settings). > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) You are welcome to wear jeans-and-t-shirt to my party. It's very casual. Looking forward to seeing you. Is anyone else joining you and Myles or is this an "intimate" affair? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:10:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0AEWm016271 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:10:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:10:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B5DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:58:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:58:47 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4BNwlFZ029411 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:58:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050511235847.MIMP2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:58:47 -0400 Message-ID: <42829C35.2020700@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:58:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's sales pitch References: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> <4280A710.1020703@bc.edu> <4280AD16.1040804@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>>>entire span of my life >>>> >>>> >>>Uh, so far, that is :-) >>> >>> >>Whew! -- Natalie >> >> >Which reminds me of one those Maine old-codger jokes: > Tourist: "Have you lived here all your life?" > Maine Old-Codger: "Not yet." > > And when I read Rita's follow-up posting, I somehow thought of you and your idea that you were going to die at -- what was it -- 50? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:10:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0AEWm016273 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:10:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:10:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B62F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:09:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:09:09 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C0997x030159 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:09:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512000909.MSWJ2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:09:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42829EA4.8070503@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:09:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> <428264A1.1020508@akad.ee> <4282986C.5010201@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511164907.027757f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511164907.027757f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > You are welcome to wear jeans-and-t-shirt to my party. Maybe I should give more thought to packing the Broadway Butt shirt. It's such a great shirt, and I haven't worn it since MoFest. > Is anyone else joining you and > Myles or is this an "intimate" affair? I don't know. He sent me e-mail a while back suggesting the time and place (which is when he included the url that I just looked at). He picked that place since he couldn't find any other tall building in the vicinity for us to re-create the ESB plan. I sent him e-mail a couple of days ago to confirm the time and place, and he replied that indeed it was the right time and right place and that he'd made a reservation. That's all I know about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:10:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0AEWm016272 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:10:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:10:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B5FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:03:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:03:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C03lMN029806 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:03:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so404340wra for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.76 with SMTP id v76mr577392wrv; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:03:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SaOZRH8GyrD4rlCtVCSo4jtH/qoWmEbz+60Kx60/b46pSBkQYSMFlzpKiBXxyHDoNBzAQsUHq/rQoFGEXzQWnNmXF36nX90bdpuYxtuIPgUcct0GXWlUmAbprIWQLdx1g8P6Y6NGcb8HzH89kI/pqcqH84Pe+mWRAfNFP02xsF4= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:03:47 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <200505101821.j4AILEdd026103@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505101821.j4AILEdd026103@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4C0AEWm016272 > > Such people are afraid to drink the water, afraid to use the outhouse, > afraid of becoming lost in the woods, too cold by night, too hot by day, > too wet when it rains. They worry about sunburn, wasp-stings, and whether > the woodstove will set the camp on fire. Such guests usually don't come > back for a second time. --clo > This reminds me of a picture we have of a Tennessee friend who was just like this. Eight of us were together at a friend's house in the woods. Mark was afraid of everything. The picture shows him standing in the pond, holding a flyswatter aloft. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:10:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0AEWm016274 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:10:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:10:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B5F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:03:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:03:06 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C03684029773 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:03:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512000306.MNAJ2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:03:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42829D38.2080807@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:03:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: back home References: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> <20050511224516.GA13703@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050511224516.GA13703@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >eh, no. this is pretty much standard proc. on flying to the states from >schiphol. the podium people are especially bad. one of them managed to > > I loved the Schiphol guard when I was returning from Finland several years ago. He paused when seeing on his screen the glass dog I had bought at the Helsinki Airport and stuck in my purse. I can't remember what he said exactly, but I either showed him or told him about the glass dog and said with horror something like, "Is my glass dog forbidden? Am I going to have to give him up?" He smiled and assured me that my glass dog was ok and that I did not have to give him up. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:20:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0KcWm017080 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:20:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:20:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B639@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:20:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:20:37 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C0Kbie030989 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:20:37 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103056368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:20:36 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511171517.02721830@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:21:19 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: San Francisco In-Reply-To: <42829EA4.8070503@maynor.net> References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> <428264A1.1020508@akad.ee> <4282986C.5010201@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511164907.027757f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42829EA4.8070503@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:09 PM 5/11/2005, you wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>You are welcome to wear jeans-and-t-shirt to my party. > >Maybe I should give more thought to packing the Broadway Butt shirt. >It's such a great shirt, and I haven't worn it since MoFest. > >> Is anyone else joining you and >>Myles or is this an "intimate" affair? > >I don't know. He sent me e-mail a while back suggesting the time and >place (which is when he included the url that I just looked at). He >picked that place since he couldn't find any other tall building in the >vicinity for us to re-create the ESB plan. I sent him e-mail a couple >of days ago to confirm the time and place, and he replied that indeed it >was the right time and right place and that he'd made a reservation. >That's all I know about it. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) This is getting so exciting. People are heading in this direction from all over. My friends from Texas are already in Oakland at the Waterfront Plaza. Tomorrow southern California people begin their route. Northern California won't begin until Saturday because they are closer. I should check the invitation to see who else RSVP'd. Weather looks as if it is going to co-operate which is a good thing because my home is only 1200 square feet. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:21:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0L0Wm017134 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:21:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:21:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062F622@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:20:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:20:56 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C0KtEH031016 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:20:55 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so408907wra for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.76 with SMTP id v76mr586021wrv; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:20:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OY4jKpC6qKx2WyZRCvu/Gwjoi+srmRs3MiOdskw2HMmuJLUwuhrrMl9KAOtprWwLrKe51+/J1UOxYXXoUV5lfw3IErBDA9lTx18DDGP1uvzZSF1WEGcgPPMIeSuW8YO6jc5nH9f81EV3Fq52AO/4MPF9Im1LlRNovTjZRmTzxBg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:20:55 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's sales pitch In-Reply-To: <42829C35.2020700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> <4280A710.1020703@bc.edu> <4280AD16.1040804@maynor.net> <42829C35.2020700@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4C0L0Wm017134 > > And when I read Rita's follow-up posting, I somehow thought of you and > your idea that you were going to die at -- what was it -- 50? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Age 56. I believed that Ouija Board prediction for so long that only now, almost four years later, am I beginning to get over the disappointment that I am still alive. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:24:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0OpWm017665 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:24:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:24:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5B6A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:24:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:24:50 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C0OoZX031304 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:24:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512002450.CNOT2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:24:50 -0400 Message-ID: <4282A24E.3060409@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:24:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: CRAP!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (Thanks, btw, to those of you who said that you can see the address in the cc line in list mail, which I don't see in Mozilla. That led me to bc the two recipients of this list posting instead of cc'ing them -- not that they'd probably care much if y'all all saw their addresses nakedly hanging there.) Anyway, here's why I'm CRAPPING. Taping from DirecTV can be a bitch. The only way I know how to do it is to tell the VCR channel 4 (the channel that DirecTV goes through) and the time and then choose what you want to tape from the DirectTV menu -- as in check it. Ok, so late this afternoon I spent ages forwarding the DirecTV menu ahead to get to tomorrow night. And it got there. And I checked Survivor. And I told the VCR -- OOOOPS. I think I just identified the problem. I bet I told the VCR tonight instead of tomorrow night. I just walked by the vcr and saw that it was taping merrily along. Merde, merde, merde. I bet it's because I TOLD IT TO TAPE TONIGHT. I need to go see whether I can make it stop so that I can reset it. It may be that it won't let me stop it until 8. Mierda. Thank y'all for listening since it was during my outburst that I think I caught on to the problem. (What this has to do with the bc people is that in addition to taping it for myself since I'm going to be gone tomorrow night, I am going to tape this one and the next few Survivors for them since they are in France and Spain -- he in France, she in Spain. They left their VCR set to tape those weeks, but electricity in Starkville is famously iffy.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0ZrWm019136 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:35:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:36:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062F824@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:35:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:35:53 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C0Zrn3032047 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:35:53 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005051200355201200r4krde>; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:35:52 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: hat 3% Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:35:51 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <489616280.20050511000348@gailndan.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Some Americans still use the antiquated term "ATM card" for a debit > card. The ATM Card term was in vogue in late 70s to early 80s when > banks started issuing their own ATM cards good only at that chain of > banks. Of course they eventually merged together, and tied it all in > with Visa and MC and Amex so now ONE CARD can do credit or debit, and > to buy something or get cash, or both in one transaction. > > dan Some Americans still use ATM cards. My bank offers cards that only work in ATMs and are not affiliated with Visa or MasterCard or American Express. --Adam From drcinc@nxmail.info Wed May 11 19:39:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from nxmail.info (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0dVWn019424 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:39:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200505120039.j4C0dVWn019424@gtoal.com> Received: from 209.203.195.73 ([209.203.195.73]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:39:39 CDT From: "Technology Breakthrough" Subject: Revolutionary system to stop crime-Invest Now To: words-l@gtoal.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: drcinc@nxmail.info Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:39:43 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:47:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0l7Wm019949 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:47:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:47:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062F776@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:37:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:37:06 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C0b6RC032123 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:37:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512003706.DLFD2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:37:06 -0400 Message-ID: <4282A52B.4060506@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:36:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's sales pitch References: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> <4280A710.1020703@bc.edu> <4280AD16.1040804@maynor.net> <42829C35.2020700@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > Age 56. I believed that Ouija Board prediction for so long that only now, >almost four years later, am I beginning to get over the disappointment that >I am still alive. > > There is here. But I'm not going to touch it, except to say that a Quija Board once predicted that I was going to marry (I think -- or maybe it was fall in love with) somebody named John W. And a number of years later I did (fall in love with, not marry). I don't remember whether that was the night Mary Jane's hair caught on fire from the candle we had beside the Quija Board. I wonder whatever happened to my Ouija Board. Meanwhile, re the VCR, I've decided to let it do its thing until 8. Then I can rewind it and stick it back in and tell the VCR that I meant tomorrow night. Presumably I don't have to mess with the DirecTV menu again since tomorrow night's Survivor is already marked. I should bc my wandering friends again on this so that they will know what's happening re the tape (though they may wonder about being tossed into a Quija Board discussion). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:51:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0oqWm020280 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:50:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:51:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B6F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:40:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:40:51 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C0epfx032375 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:40:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512004051.DNYL2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:40:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4282A612.5070309@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:40:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> <428264A1.1020508@akad.ee> <4282986C.5010201@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511164907.027757f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42829EA4.8070503@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511171517.02721830@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511171517.02721830@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > This is getting so exciting. People are heading in this direction > from all > over. My friends from Texas are already in Oakland at the Waterfront > Plaza. Tomorrow southern California people begin their route. Northern > California won't begin until Saturday because they are closer. I should > check the invitation to see who else RSVP'd. Weather looks as if it is > going to co-operate which is a good thing because my home is only 1200 > square feet. It's going to be PERFECT! Btw, I have a vague memory that you or Larry suggested something other than BART from the airport to my hotel, but in looking at the wonderful BART website, it seems to me that BART would be perfect -- that I could shoot straight to the Powell St. Station and be very close to my hotel. That is my inclination at this point. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:51:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0oqWm020279 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:50:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:51:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B6B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:44:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:44:29 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C0iSkS032704 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:44:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512004428.DQPK2428.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:44:28 -0400 Message-ID: <4282A6EA.5080802@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:44:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>Some Americans still use the antiquated term "ATM card" for a debit >>card. The ATM Card term was in vogue in late 70s to early 80s when >>banks started issuing their own ATM cards good only at that chain of >>banks. Of course they eventually merged together, and tied it all in >>with Visa and MC and Amex so now ONE CARD can do credit or debit, and >>to buy something or get cash, or both in one transaction. >> >>dan >> >> >Some Americans still use ATM cards. My bank offers cards that only work in >ATMs and are not affiliated with Visa or MasterCard or American Express. > > But don't forget that it was Natalie who was confused in the discussion of these matters. ;-) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:51:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0oqWm020276 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:50:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:51:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5B6F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:45:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:45:06 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C0j5qm032739 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:45:06 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103064151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:44:51 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511174327.027c4ea0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:45:33 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: San Francisco In-Reply-To: <4282A612.5070309@maynor.net> References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> <428264A1.1020508@akad.ee> <4282986C.5010201@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511164907.027757f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42829EA4.8070503@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511171517.02721830@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4282A612.5070309@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:40 PM 5/11/2005, you wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>This is getting so exciting. People are heading in this direction >>from all >>over. My friends from Texas are already in Oakland at the Waterfront >>Plaza. Tomorrow southern California people begin their route. Northern >>California won't begin until Saturday because they are closer. I should >>check the invitation to see who else RSVP'd. Weather looks as if it is >>going to co-operate which is a good thing because my home is only 1200 >>square feet. > >It's going to be PERFECT! > >Btw, I have a vague memory that you or Larry suggested something other >than BART from the airport to my hotel, but in looking at the wonderful >BART website, it seems to me that BART would be perfect -- that I could >shoot straight to the Powell St. Station and be very close to my hotel. >That is my inclination at this point. Your hotel has a shuttle. If you have "luggage" that may be easier. We take BART from SFO and someone picks us up at the El Cerrito Del Norte Station. Betty Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 19:59:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C0xoWm021067 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:59:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:59:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B743@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:59:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:59:50 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C0xn5F001205 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:59:50 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005051200594901600djkbde>; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:59:49 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: eBay :-( Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:59:48 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505110808368a409e@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I also realize that one can do things like shuffle money between > > checking accounts and savings accounts online, but that does not apply > > to me since my only account is a checking account. > > > > And this is an example of mutancy. How is that mutant? I didn't have a savings account as an adult until 2001. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 20:10:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C1AiWm022345 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:10:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:10:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B735@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:10:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:10:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C1AhHv002136 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:10:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so515604wri for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.2 with SMTP id 2mr766625wrz; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:10:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lhpWu9BiQ2W/AqLct+UBe3PinMlgyxpPKCnnqa9Z0Qis6XpF4rq14+XK/P35+F85cGV8lTvaZ049RACIr810MD8JUIplLH/8J/bpCM/zj2d6W10/8y+k8vS7zYIIGxT7Tm6OHDToaRkhpRyJ8CECNSxndhKAj+40qo8vszejYgQ= Message-ID: <83db447a05051118102eddbe8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:10:43 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: back home In-Reply-To: <20050511224516.GA13703@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> <20050511224516.GA13703@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4C1AiWm022345 On 5/11/05, steph wrote: > > > eh, no. this is pretty much standard proc. on flying to the states from > schiphol. the podium people are especially bad. one of them managed to > match up my passport with pat, which left them deranged when trying to > match pat's passport with me! I didn't intend to imply that such behavior is peculiar to Schiphol security types---it seems to be very widespread, perhaps at the insistence of the Festung Amerika faction. I don't know, but I wonder if other international flights---not involving an American carrier or USA destination, show the same sort of behavior. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 20:20:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C1KaWm023427 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:20:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:20:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B7A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:20:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:20:36 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C1KZN0002729 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:20:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512012035.PAMW2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:20:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4282AF62.4090509@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:20:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cars Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just reset the vcr to (I hope) tape tomorrow night's Survivor. In doing so, I discovered that what it had taped tonight was the last channel I'd watched, which happened to have been CNN. In the course of my screwing around with it, I caught a tiny bit of Larry King talking to Condolezza Rice. They were talking about Bush and Putin. In talking about their good relationship, Condi told a little story about Dubya's going out to drive Putin's antique car and how there was a moment of worry among the USAers present that "he might have to drive something like a stick shift" (with a chortle by Condi). Am I mutant for finding that weird? Is Condi that out of touch with the real world? I drive a stick shift every day that I drive, and I've never thought it . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 20:24:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C1OlWm023662 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:24:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:24:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062F7F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:24:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:24:47 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C1Ok3X003166 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:24:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512012446.PDSQ2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:24:46 -0400 Message-ID: <4282B05D.5090407@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:24:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>And this is an example of mutancy. >> >> >How is that mutant? I didn't have a savings account as an adult until 2001. > > I, otoh, always had both checking and savings accounts in my young adulthood. I dropped the savings account sometime in my early thirties or so, when checking accounts starting paying interest and when better places to put extra money were opening up (or maybe it's just that I was getting old enough to be aware of them). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 20:32:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C1WXWm024312 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:32:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:32:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5B7B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:22:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:22:33 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C1MW0V002917 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:22:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512012232.PCBY2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:22:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4282AFD7.3010006@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:22:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> <428264A1.1020508@akad.ee> <4282986C.5010201@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511164907.027757f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42829EA4.8070503@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511171517.02721830@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4282A612.5070309@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511174327.027c4ea0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511174327.027c4ea0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Your hotel has a shuttle. If you have "luggage" that may be easier. We Oh. My hotel is sounding more and more . I remember that I studied the hotel situation in SF far, far more thoroughly than I normally do such things, but my alzheimerish brain did not hold the details. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 20:32:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C1WXWm024313 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:32:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:32:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B77C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:27:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:27:57 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4C1HtJm002523 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:17:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 91366 invoked by uid 1003); 12 May 2005 01:17:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:17:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's sales pitch Message-ID: <20050512011755.GB89099@words-l.org> References: <200505101057.j4AAvKp3020462@sm.luth.se> <4280A224.6050602@maynor.net> <4280A6BE.3000305@bc.edu> <4280A710.1020703@bc.edu> <4280AD16.1040804@maynor.net> <42829C35.2020700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42829C35.2020700@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 06:58:45PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > And when I read Rita's follow-up posting, I somehow thought of you and > your idea that you were going to die at -- what was it -- 50? I have managed to forget all such ... I didn't know what to call them until a coworker of mine informed me: "conversation- starters which are actually conversation-stoppers" ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 20:32:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C1WXWm024309 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:32:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:32:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5B7AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:25:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:25:24 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4C1FNBk002417 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:15:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 90398 invoked by uid 1003); 12 May 2005 01:15:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:15:22 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco Message-ID: <20050512011522.GA89099@words-l.org> References: <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <200505110659.j4B6xsj4007418@sm.luth.se> <428202D9.20101@maynor.net> <428227AD.9020304@bc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050511105112.00c56c48@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42824884.4050207@maynor.net> <42824A34.1070700@maynor.net> <20050511195805.GA94415@words-l.org> <42829753.6030607@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42829753.6030607@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 06:37:55PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Natalie, Natalie, Natalie ... > > > >It's California. You can wear ANYTHING. > > > This is true. But Mules is not a native Californian and has perhaps not > yet been there long enough to shake off all of his Eastern hang-ups. > And just as I would not want to embarrass BB among her non-Wordsler > friends, I would not want to embarrass Mylesykins in a public setting. What a wuss! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 20:40:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C1ehWm025014 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:40:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:40:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5B8B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:40:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:40:43 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C1eghm004536 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:40:42 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103081545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:40:41 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511183918.0279e830@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:41:24 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Speaking of Last Days Onboard In-Reply-To: <42813ACF.1060905@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510144210.02fe9600@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42813ACF.1060905@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:50 PM 5/10/2005, you wrote: >>My son, Ryan, has volunteered to make BART runs. > >Neat! Tell me again where those pictures are that you took when camping >last summer (?) so that I can look at his picture and recognize him. Here are the camping photos and I have some of him on Flickr, I think. http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c240207.html >And you can tell him that I'll be the plucked chicken. I have a haircut >appointment for late tomorrow afternoon -- am trying to do the >eight-week thing, meaning it's VERY short at first and then (like right >now) wild and scraggly. I can, of course, give identifying clothes info >when I call from BART when approaching. Right now I haven't any idea >what I'll have on since I still haven't figured out this strange weather >situation. > >>He has his degree in linguistics and I've told him about you. Well, not > >Excellent. He and I can discuss sememes or whatever -- except that I >don't anymore. So maybe instead we can discuss the >geological factors that make California weather weird or debit cards vs >credit cards or eggslots or Godel's Theorem or whatever. He is all into white water rafting right now. There are two seasons for Ryan. Cal football and basketball and then white water rafting. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 20:46:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C1khWm025533 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:46:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:46:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5B90E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:46:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:46:41 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C1kfqQ005058 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:46:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512014641.HTZU2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:46:41 -0400 Message-ID: <4282B580.5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:46:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Last Days Onboard References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510144210.02fe9600@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42813ACF.1060905@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511183918.0279e830@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511183918.0279e830@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Here are the camping photos and I have some of him on Flickr, I think. > > http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c240207.html Do you realize how good-looking your son is? > He is all into white water rafting right now. There are two seasons for > Ryan. Cal football and basketball and then white water rafting. Well, I can talk about low-level white-water canoeing of the early '70s. But I can't remember the number system now. I know that there weren't any very high numbers anywhere near here. We sought out the highest, but they were still pretty low. I can do a cheer for the Bears, though -- the Duling Bears: "Go back, go back, go back to the woods, cause you ain't, you ain't, you ain't got the goods, you may have the rhythm and you may have the jazz, but you ain't got the team that Duling has -- GO BEARS!" -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 21:12:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C2BtWm028434 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:12:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:12:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062F864@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:01:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:01:57 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C21u2s005963 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:01:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.19.166.15]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512020156.BUWA2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:01:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4282B913.1010804@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:01:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: DSAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm about to go nomail. So hold it down. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 21:12:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C2BsWm028432 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:12:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:12:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062F863@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:01:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:01:52 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C21q5C005954 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:01:52 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103087051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:01:49 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511190146.027ba050@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:02:31 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Speaking of Last Days Onboard In-Reply-To: <4282B580.5@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510144210.02fe9600@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42813ACF.1060905@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511183918.0279e830@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4282B580.5@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:46 PM 5/11/2005, you wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>Here are the camping photos and I have some of him on Flickr, I think. >> >>http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c240207.html > >Do you realize how good-looking your son is? Good Norwegian facial structure! >>He is all into white water rafting right now. There are two seasons for >>Ryan. Cal football and basketball and then white water rafting. > >Well, I can talk about low-level white-water canoeing of the early >'70s. But I can't remember the number system now. I know that there >weren't any very high numbers anywhere near here. We sought out the >highest, but they were still pretty low. I can do a cheer for the >Bears, though -- the Duling Bears: "Go back, go back, go back to the >woods, cause you ain't, you ain't, you ain't got the goods, you may have >the rhythm and you may have the jazz, but you ain't got the team that >Duling has -- GO BEARS!" That will impress him. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 21:29:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C2StWm029804 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:28:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:29:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062FB54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:28:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:28:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C2Spg2008196 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:28:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so521326nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.42.13 with SMTP id p13mr505662nzp; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:28:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=V+RMUriJW4djF8plQROM/aleoIKx1rwmi29hR4xeagS/gFAj8oVQWgneHRYsONI6xrNCOkBVtJHZ0aM/9B4oeIEcfGSe9fdu6FvpXQVzhseVRSqpdBW8NCr8xDiS209hKL7N06Nm71M2kUgoZeNF9wu6RzGWFq8pmuE9vZ0+Jdw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051119287ad9c05c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:28:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <4282B05D.5090407@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4282B05D.5090407@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4C2StWm029804 On 5/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I, otoh, always had both checking and savings accounts in my young > adulthood. I dropped the savings account sometime in my early thirties > or so, when checking accounts starting paying interest and when better > places to put extra money were opening up (or maybe it's just that I was > getting old enough to be aware of them). It depends on how much "extra money" one has, I think, and how quickly one needs it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 21:30:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C2UnWm030024 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:30:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 21:30:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0062FB5C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:30:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:30:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C2UkxH008330 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:30:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so521755nzo for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.18 with SMTP id j18mr499961nzj; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:30:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mtyqizntUhtLv2vaJuNaGcGuJxODWlk6MR0JEL9EIQjBTlIGbhAgVs93QzpVq6zxFlzS5u4y1W2f44h6gxcEVmFdNQgLrvXBaaaYHVNzOSavR5e+T1MqyQEv3ubA2Kw0olOJDd+4b26y5lIzEkJVTIHmIguSSsxwwTCGYoClX2c= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505111930103e2ad4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:30:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cars In-Reply-To: <4282AF62.4090509@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4282AF62.4090509@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4C2UnWm030024 Ah, but you are Mutant City.... On 5/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I just reset the vcr to (I hope) tape tomorrow night's Survivor. In > doing so, I discovered that what it had taped tonight was the last > channel I'd watched, which happened to have been CNN. In the course of > my screwing around with it, I caught a tiny bit of Larry King talking to > Condolezza Rice. They were talking about Bush and Putin. In talking > about their good relationship, Condi told a little story about Dubya's > going out to drive Putin's antique car and how there was a moment of > worry among the USAers present that "he might have to drive something > like a stick shift" (with a chortle by Condi). Am I mutant for finding > that weird? Is Condi that out of touch with the real world? I drive a > stick shift every day that I drive, and I've never thought it > . > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 11 22:49:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C3mqWm004743 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:48:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:48:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0062FE52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:48:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 353838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:48:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C3mpRD015095 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:48:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so629985nzp for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.146.13 with SMTP id t13mr488833nzd; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 20:48:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ray+nQSptPenm5gdVy18sIqPFNwiUn2ysqW8EWqjhc5p5eCsbW0IBerQRC4taSAv2e+jEvx0GsLGeVaZFBsWEBgjuwA2BJxTFyIvXGrVfxTotX3LE3OD0BxIfyB0ylcAYnNsRwBhUf/59sZYXV8b+vuDVQPNmfo/nZVl+lysw+c= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:48:50 -0500 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: WHTUIT,M,NO,BR,H,M, and may HTUIM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4C3mpRD015096 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For those of you who don't read my blog... Sunday afternoon we decided to visit lots of graduate schools for philosophy. We called gardenwaltz and h_postmortemus in Raleigh/Durham and tealfroglette in Mobile, and asked whether we could stay there on short notice. All our friends were very generous in offering a place to stay, and in the end we decided to go to Mobile because we couldn't find a cheap place to stay in Jacksonville. Sunday night we arrived in Tallahassee and stayed at a wonderful Holiday Inn Express, where our room (bigger than some apartments) had a Jacuzzi, a nifty showerhead, and a very comfortable bed that prompted Jodi to mention that we really need new pillows at home. The cinnamon rolls are all they're cracked up to be, and the cold, peeled hard-boiled eggs were a nice touch. Monday we visited FSU's philosophy program. Prof. Peter Dalton made us feel very welcome, gave us lots of useful information, and sent his regards to Prof. Brook Sadler, among others. After exploring the campus a bit, we drove to Mobile and collapsed gratefully onto the guest bed. Tuesday we drove to New Orleans, visited Tulane's philosophy program, and were greeted by a secretary who offered no information other than the reproach that we ought to have checked their academic calendar before visiting, and that there was no printed information available because it's all on the Web. Their unrepentantly non-ADA-compliant campus (legal because the buildings are historic) was equally forbidding, so we went to the Cafe du Monde for cafe au lait and beignets, then to the former Old Dog New Trick, formerly on Exchange Alley, now on Frenchmen and called Thirteen, for lunch. Their mushroom and eggplant soup was amazing -- it took a full day's cooking to produce a vegetarian broth worthy to replace a good beef broth. We would return to New Orleans for the food any time. After lunch Tuesday, we drove to Baton Rouge, where I had once entertained a job offer from the state library, and toured the LSU campus. Prof. John Whittaker, chair of the LSU philosophy department, received us warmly and spent so much time answering our questions that he was late in setting off for his next obligation. Jodi was so impressed by his courtesy that she now ranks LSU among her top choices. The campus is also very beautiful, and Baton Rouge is a city where I would likely be able to get a job fairly quickly, I think. We stayed at another Holiday Inn Express that was unworthy of the name. The bathroom sink was badly caulked, the grab bar in the shower wobbled at a slight touch, and the showerhead was not the advertised design wonder but an anemic thing stuck halfway between a weak massage and a weak spray. I tried to adjust it and got a squirt in the eye for my trouble. It was owned by a franchisee, and I don't hold this experience against Holiday Inn Express, but I'll never stay at that location again. I'd much rather return to the luxury of the Holiday Inn Express in Tallahassee. Wednesday morning we visited the LSU campus again to see the LSU Dairy Shop, where we breakfasted on fresh ice cream made by dairy science students. We also stashed a bit of LSU-made cheese (3lb of cheddar, actually) in our car's refrigerator before heading to Hattiesburg. Hattiesburg, Mississippi, is a smallish oasis of urban life surrounded mostly by wilderness. (The drive from Baton Rouge was unrelentingly boring: I would actually have welcomed the occasional billboard.) We felt very welcome at USM's philosophy department and on the campus in general. Prof. Paula Smithka was enthusiastic about Jodi and about the program, candid about city people's experiences in a small Deep South college town, and said that at the moment there were two fellowships available, and when was Jodi planning to apply? While numbers fluctuate, it seems to me that there will be at least a few programs willing to offer a 20hr/wk graduate assistantship that will cover tuition, with a stipend that will be more than enough for books and fees. This was very encouraging, since we were afraid that student loans were our only option. We now know that there will probably be some fully funded options available to us. I'm not sure how many library/IT jobs are available, but the campus has a wireless network with MAC address filtering, and there's a nice-looking hospital nearby, so I imagine there's at least some demand for technology workers. I heard so many monophthongal [ai]s that I was tempted to call Natalie to say [hai], but figured that I could do that equally well when not a few hours' drive away. The drive from Hattiesburg to Mobile was also fairly uninteresting until we got within 30 miles of Mobile, at which point it quickly became annoyingly suburban. We got an oil change and met a fellow geocacher, RESE, who tempted me sorely with descriptions of nearby caches we had no time to find. We had dinner with Nina and Tim at Guido's in Daphne, and will include it on any future culinary tour of the Gulf Coast. We spent the rest of the evening listening to Selected Ambient Works Volume II and talking about old friends in Florida and North Carolina. Arlo and Batty Ratkins graciously consented to be petted, and I am about to join Jodi in the guest bedroom. Tomorrow we'll go to Tampa, and on Friday we'll go to Miami for a relative's wedding, and on Saturday we'll go to Stuart, and Sunday we will finally be home in Tampa for at least five days. Two thousand miles in a week is fun, but I'll enjoy getting back to a normal commute. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 00:55:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C5t6Wm018722 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:55:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:55:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062FF78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 1:55:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 360277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:55:06 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C5t5Qi025105 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:55:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19535460 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:55:27 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 22:55:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:55:07 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <708680992.20050511235507@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <4281FFAF.5000701@maynor.net> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <4280C9B3.6060007@akad.ee> <489616280.20050511000348@gailndan.com> <4281FFAF.5000701@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66877, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 6:50 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> ATM cards still exist, though they are becoming NM> rare. Not surprised that they're still available at various backwater places. And, yes, my Visa Credit/Debit card (from US Bank) has Plus and Interlink logos on the back. Have seen the Cirrus signs too. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 00:56:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C5usWm018885 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:56:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:56:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00630138@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 1:56:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 360339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:56:54 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C5urTg025218 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:56:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19535512 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 22:57:16 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 22:57:14 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:57:00 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <15910699861.20050511235700@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <4622719505051105519309d69@mail.gmail.com> References: <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <49376174.20050510234733@gailndan.com> <4622719505051105519309d69@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66879, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 6:51 AM, phil paxton wrote: pp> When I use my "ATM card" which is what I hear it pp> called, the question pp> is, "Do you want that to be used as a "credit card" pp> or a "debit card"? pp> I'm not the CFO so I don't know all of the pp> underlying methods of how pp> it all fits together, but I know when it's used as a pp> credit card pp> there's no usage charge as one would be assessed at pp> an ATM. Right. And am assuming you're meaning using it in a store, where you're using it as a credit card. If you used it as a debit card in a store there also would be no charge to you. But if you used it at an ATM or in a bank for cash, there generally would be. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 00:58:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C5wbWm019058 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:58:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:58:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062FF84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 1:58:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 360419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:58:36 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C5wacJ025324 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:58:36 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19547821 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:28:51 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 22:58:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:58:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <792445301.20050511235843@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <427FA8AA.9040508@akad.ee> <42808551.40107@akad.ee> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 190, in=69881, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 7:01 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> So if I prefer to get my NM> bank statement by mail, NM> why might I be interested in online banking? Some things that come to mind are transferring money between accounts (such as checking and savings), paying bills that can be paid online. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:03:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C63OWm019748 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:03:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:03:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00630182@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:03:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 361541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:03:24 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C63NAH026632 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:03:23 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19535716 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:03:45 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:03:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:03:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1294953645.20050512000330@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505110612241e2ef4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505102325dc27780@mail.gmail.com> <1054644787.20050511005755@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051104254dac6e92@mail.gmail.com> <232689376.20050511070334@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505110612241e2ef4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66880, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 7:12 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Through the card. Right, if it is a credit card. AFoA> But e-Bay has its own protections. AFoA> IME, very few people on AFoA> e-Bay actually take cards of any sort--all my AFoA> transactions have been through AFoA> PayPal or the ilk, and they also have their own AFoA> protections. Well, most take credit cards thru paypal. Personally, from those who've had problems with them, I've heard that the "protections" and the "chance of recovery" from either ebay, paypal, or one of their customers, is remote. A local guy sold some thirty grand of hockey equipment on ebay, all stolen from the place he worked. But that wasn't good enough for him....he sold about six times as much as he had to sell. I'm sure he'll end up in jail (now out on bail, I think). But the chance of the people he screwed ever getting their money back is remote as he's spent all the funds obtained, has no job, will be in jail, etc, etc. If they used credit cards, they'll probably have successful recovery (and of course that is one of the things the credit card fees go for....to pay back people who are ripped off...so part of your fees are paying for "insurance"). If they paid with cash, check, or debit card, they're SOL. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:28:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6RwWm022273 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:28:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:28:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00630195@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:09:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 361781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:09:10 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C6992m027034 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:09:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19548094 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:39:25 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:09:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:09:16 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1741146716.20050512000916@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Taiwan In-Reply-To: <200505111418.j4BEIPdg029587@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505111418.j4BEIPdg029587@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 190, in=69882, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 8:18 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: CO> IF you start specifying, you may have to admit more CO> than you want CO> about the details of "I hate skinny little things". CO> Better to let it go. No secrets here. If you want details about such, ask. If not, don't. But there's nothing I won't tell you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:28:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6RvWm022269 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:28:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:28:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062FFDA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:07:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 361759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:07:56 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C67unW026959 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:07:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19535831 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:08:18 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:08:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:08:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <82781628.20050512000802@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: back home In-Reply-To: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> References: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66881, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 7:59 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: CV> No CV> problems getting cleared and CV> sending our bags on to Bangor. However, NOW there CV> was another complete CV> security screening, complete with another CV> line-by-line examination of CV> passport and boarding pass, all metal in the tray, CV> bag on the belt, etc. Never done international travel thru DTW, but at DFW, LAX, ORD, and HNL, the international terminal is separate....and you go back outside of security to check your bags after bringing them through customs. Thus the requirement to rescreen you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:28:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6RwWm022274 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:28:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:28:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006300F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:22:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:22:07 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C6M5Ih027759 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:22:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19250743 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:39:16 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:22:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:22:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <317968419.20050512002212@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <4622719505051112095e94a758@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> <4622719505051112095e94a758@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=68037, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 1:09 PM, phil paxton wrote: pp> Some banks (e.g. in Chicago) have been charging pp> fees for face::face pp> transactions. IIRC, the first time I saw the Trib pp> talk about it pp> (quite some time ago, technology relativity pp> speaking), it was on the pp> order of $3/visit. Sounds like buying airline tix, too. Had heard of the banks charging for FTF transactions, but none in Idaho yet. Not that I ever go into the bank. But when checking on some flights with United (sorting out use of FF miles issues), a recording told me that if I bought tix on phone there would be an extra charge (ten bucks, I think) so I should buy them on the web. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:28:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6RwWm022275 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:28:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:28:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0062FFE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:11:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 361864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:11:02 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C6B1Lw027171 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:11:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19535916 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:11:24 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:11:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:11:09 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <112983094.20050512001109@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <42821CF8.7060305@maynor.net> References: <1375247776.20050509065940@gailndan.com> <427FE797.5000202@maynor.net> <882969845.20050510014152@gailndan.com> <42809DAA.1090102@maynor.net> <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <1907354996.20050510235522@gailndan.com> <4281FBEB.7050606@maynor.net> <539518895.20050511071152@gailndan.com> <42821CF8.7060305@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66882, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 8:55 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Only if the card got stolen. (Or do purchases with NM> a debit card have NM> the same kind of limits that most ATM cards have -- NM> as in there's a NM> limit per day to how much money you can get from an NM> ATM machine.) As far as I know there are daily cash limits on all ATM, Debit, or Credit cards. The limit depends on the card, the bank, and perhaps your credit limit. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:30:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6UEWm022482 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:30:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:30:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006301B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:30:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:30:13 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4C6UC6T028149 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:30:13 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051208283405424 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:28:34 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.33] ([158.39.120.33]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 12 May 2005 08:30:10 +0200 Message-ID: <4282F7F0.4020202@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:30:08 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A-a-lec! References: <200505112136.j4BLapth015729@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505112136.j4BLapth015729@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2005 06:30:11.0113 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C5C1990:01C556BC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander skrev 11.05.2005 23:36: >On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:55:39 +0300, Kristin Sarv >wrote: > > > >>Hey, having a cake? Listening to songs from best friends? >> >>I hope you have a good day. Happy Birthday! >> >>Kristin >> >> > >HB, Alec! >clo > > > And a day late from me! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:35:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6ZeWm023012 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:35:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:35:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063010E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:35:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:35:40 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C6Zdhu028417 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:35:39 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19536520 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:36:01 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:36:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:35:46 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16610686540.20050512003546@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <428259B9.2010508@akad.ee> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <428259B9.2010508@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66885, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4C6Zehu028418 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 1:15 PM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> But I didn't know it was KS> more safe. Is it KS> really? How does a credit card have the protection, KS> or a better KS> protection, against fraud? >From all that I've read, if your card is lost and funds are taken from your account, or if it is used fraudulently for a purchase, the bank won't give you your money back. On a credit card they will, though in some cases only for amounts over fifty bucks. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:46:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6kCWm024875 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:46:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:46:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5C124@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:46:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:46:12 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C6kBG9028998 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:46:11 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19536729 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:46:33 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:46:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:46:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1885471045.20050512004618@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: eBay :-( In-Reply-To: <428290B7.6010308@maynor.net> References: <20050509180748.32855.qmail@web60716.mail.yahoo.com> <462271950505101007dfa1f4c@mail.gmail.com> <4280F02D.4020802@akad.ee> <4622719505051012033c288107@mail.gmail.com> <42810C9B.6060608@akad.ee> <42812C6F.9000603@maynor.net> <1017913245.20050511004657@gailndan.com> <42820223.6060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505110619aede8cc@mail.gmail.com> <42821E15.8000301@maynor.net> <4622719505051112095e94a758@mail.gmail.com> <428290B7.6010308@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=66886, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 5:09 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Do the banks that NM> charge a fee for dealing with a teller or drive-up NM> window up their ATM NM> maximums to off-set that -- as in if you want to get NM> $1,000 in cash, I'm NM> pretty sure that at my bank you can't do it at an NM> ATM -- you have to do NM> it with a teller. So I would think that if they're NM> going to start NM> charging to use the services of a teller, they'd NM> also let you get more NM> from the ATM. But they have no reason to change the ATM limit. The fact you cant get ten grand out of the ATM is YOUR problem, not theirs. You don't really think they CARE, do you? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:49:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6nWWm025130 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:49:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:49:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063000C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:39:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:39:31 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C6dUk7028675 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:39:31 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19251118 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:56:41 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:39:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:39:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <14884827.20050512003938@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Maters Maters! In-Reply-To: <4622719505051112311460249c@mail.gmail.com> References: <42825776.3000902@maynor.net> <4622719505051112311460249c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=68038, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 1:31 PM, phil paxton wrote: >> around the tomato garden licking their chops. pp> Time for a rubber owl and a pie pan attached to a pp> stick with cord. Our library has owls perched on each of the top corners....don't know if they're plastic or what. But the seagulls and the pigeons and the ravens just sit on their heads and shit on them, and of course down the side of the library. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:49:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6nWWm025131 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:49:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:49:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630120@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:48:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:48:42 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C6mf4I029203 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:48:41 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19251314 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:05:52 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:49:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:48:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1576188270.20050512004848@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <4282927F.10603@maynor.net> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <428259B9.2010508@akad.ee> <4282927F.10603@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=68040, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 5:17 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> There are NM> stories floating around (quite likely ULs) about NM> people's whole checking NM> accounts being wiped out because of a stolen debit NM> card. Happened to my son. He left his debit card in the ATM at midnight one night, and next person got it. Apparently they'd been watching to see what his PIN was. In his case the bank repaid some of it to him, but not most of it. He was out about a grand. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:49:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6nWWm025132 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:49:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:49:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630118@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:43:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:43:41 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C6heuP028897 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:43:41 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19361154 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 23:47:06 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:44:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:43:47 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <9110270971.20050512004347@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: convenience In-Reply-To: References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> <427FDEEB.9070807@maynor.net> <13510409364.20050510013511@gailndan.com> <42809AB3.4090505@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 195, in=80519, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 4:09 PM, bonniemaev wrote: b> It was either throw or give it away or take b> whatever cash they were b> willing to give us. I got $24 for it after the $5.50 b> service fee was b> charged. Insane. I paid about $32 for that 200 b> kroner bill. So it goes. Well, both places you exchanged it made some money. And not sure of the physical recovery of money for the folks who gave you $$ for it, but I guess they'd have to get it to some bank that would get it back to Norway, etc. Why didn't you just save it for your next trip? dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:49:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6nWWm025133 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:49:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:49:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630122@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:49:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:49:23 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4C6nM8E029298 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:49:23 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051208474405531 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:47:44 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.33] ([158.39.120.33]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 12 May 2005 08:49:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4282FC70.7050301@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:49:20 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Last Days Onboard References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510144210.02fe9600@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42813ACF.1060905@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511183918.0279e830@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511183918.0279e830@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2005 06:49:21.0589 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA18CE50:01C556BE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark skrev 12.05.2005 03:41: > At 03:50 PM 5/10/2005, you wrote: > >>> My son, Ryan, has volunteered to make BART runs. >> >> >> Neat! Tell me again where those pictures are that you took when camping >> last summer (?) so that I can look at his picture and recognize him. > > > > Here are the camping photos and I have some of him on Flickr, I think. > > http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c240207.html This looks like a place I would like to visit! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 01:50:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C6nvWm025177 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:49:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 01:50:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006301D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:49:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:49:57 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C6nuck029343 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:49:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19548990 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:20:12 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:50:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:50:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <64299624.20050512005003@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Regional English redux In-Reply-To: <428296B8.2050406@maynor.net> References: <20050511155105.362.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com> <42823DA2.20904@maynor.net> <428296B8.2050406@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 190, in=69885, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 5:35 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> there are poor and rural Southerners NM> who grew up wearing NM> seed-bag dresses and shirts. "Sack" would not have NM> been used in that NM> context. In Idaho and the midwest those would be "feedsack (or potato sack) dresses". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 02:03:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C73LWm026593 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:03:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:03:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630135@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 2:53:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:53:21 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C6rKil029827 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:53:20 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19251406 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:10:31 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 11 May 2005 23:53:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:53:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1421638958.20050512005327@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CRAP!! In-Reply-To: <4282A24E.3060409@maynor.net> References: <4282A24E.3060409@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=68041, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/11/2005, 6:24 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> the time and NM> then choose what you NM> want to tape from the DirectTV menu -- as in check NM> it. Ok, so late this NM> afternoon I spent ages forwarding the DirecTV menu NM> ahead to get to NM> tomorrow night. Get a TiVo or other DVR. Then you don't have to worry about the times, and you don't have to watch commercials. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 02:23:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C7NMWm028483 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:23:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:23:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063007D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 3:22:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:22:49 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C7MmTi031982 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:22:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19361934 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:26:14 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 12 May 2005 00:23:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 01:22:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1372859964.20050512012256@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Cars In-Reply-To: <20050512071318.GA16341@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4282AF62.4090509@maynor.net> <20050512071318.GA16341@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 195, in=80525, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 1:13 AM, steph wrote: s> Yes. Americans only drive automatics. Some do. But there are a hell of a lot who drive stick, and many who will ONLY drive stick, unless stuck with a rental...which AFAIK are always automatic...unless renting something exotic, like the Ferraris and Corvettes and Lotuses they rent on Maui and some other places....for those who are willing to go 400 to 600 a day for them. s> I still to s> this day get weird s> looks here when I tell people that I drive a stick s> shift, and always s> have. Since you don't rent cars, you wouldn't've s> noticed that you can't s> rent a stick shift. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 02:23:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C7NMWm028481 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:23:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:23:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063022E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 3:13:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:13:21 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C7DJnh031306 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:13:20 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4C7DJIR016450 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:13:19 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j4C7DI5W016448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:13:18 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:13:18 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cars Message-ID: <20050512071318.GA16341@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4282AF62.4090509@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4282AF62.4090509@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 08:20:34PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = like a stick shift" (with a chortle by Condi). Am I mutant for finding = that weird? Is Condi that out of touch with the real world? I drive a = stick shift every day that I drive, and I've never thought it = . = = -- = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes. Americans only drive automatics. I still to this day get weird looks here when I tell people that I drive a stick shift, and always have. Since you don't rent cars, you wouldn't've noticed that you can't rent a stick shift. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 02:32:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C7WdWm029634 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:32:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:32:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00630245@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 3:32:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:32:39 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C7McIB031967 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:22:38 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so612013wri for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.24.46 with SMTP id 46mr961266wrx; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:22:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MSdGp5G/pgwSIN5WwlpW2oFTk0ak0x9SDaEZMFvQYFi7kuDcvxJgznXC4HCiSs1VoxLgLNI5zRCUVmJFrm0GAbccEC4tqSoFEqCwPTWj4cBKYm+WysaOSSUdM8AcxFITkTsBZVqZK1r0Vb03NVMiLAxx9SUETccy472k12RHU6M= Message-ID: <8865866a0505120022d336265@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:22:37 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051115387185b8a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> <8ddfc8a705051115387185b8a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4C7McIB031968 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/12/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/11/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > > > I watched the people worship in fascination. I'm not > > sure exactly which god they were trying to convince to be benevolent > > towards them. > > How do you know that that's what they were doing? Well, I didn't 100% but I am familiar with some Buddhist rituals. > Underwear and undershirts are sold EVERYWHERE, as well as wash cloths. > > Because during the summer, everyone carries a washcloth with them to wipe > the sweat--and probably wants to be able to change underwear if they sweat > through it. REALLY? I would have never guessed.... Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 02:40:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C7eJWm030339 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:40:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:40:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006301A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 3:40:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 364299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:40:19 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4C7eIag000698 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:40:18 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051209384005851 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:38:40 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.33] ([158.39.120.33]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 12 May 2005 09:40:17 +0200 Message-ID: <42830860.6080907@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:40:16 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cars References: <4282AF62.4090509@maynor.net> <20050512071318.GA16341@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1372859964.20050512012256@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1372859964.20050512012256@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2005 07:40:17.0873 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7C8BC10:01C556C5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester skrev 12.05.2005 09:22: >5/12/2005, 1:13 AM, steph wrote: > >s> Yes. Americans only drive automatics. > >Some do. But there are a hell of a lot who drive stick, and many who >will ONLY drive stick, unless stuck with a rental...which AFAIK are >always automatic...unless renting something exotic, like the Ferraris >and Corvettes and Lotuses they rent on Maui and some other >places....for those who are willing to go 400 to 600 a day for them. > >s> I still to >s> this day get weird >s> looks here when I tell people that I drive a stick >s> shift, and always >s> have. Since you don't rent cars, you wouldn't've >s> noticed that you can't >s> rent a stick shift. > > > I have never rented a car with automatic - but then I have only rented cars in Europe (Norway, Spain and Greece). Here the prices are higher if you want an automatic (or AC). Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 02:41:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C7fsWm030533 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:41:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 02:41:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00630253@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 3:41:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 364084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:41:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C7VqZx032538 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:31:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so479908wri for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.24.48 with SMTP id 48mr961158wrx; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:31:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=tCaJr4QvmT2bXonl+fRa5d+i2Myw6uZoiJbxJ2Jp4sIrm2tFnjisFoMlubDCgTUVGbJCJRagWeussWnYj2nbpV8Sh/PlmivoRwNP8FwZereJ/m/PsCMSDG+bdgn0qtF9eXf1VN+6IFIJV0zid9T0+igH7FPDYhjVjqBRLUQxjnM= Message-ID: <8865866a05051200316201ff6d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:31:52 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Thanks Phil! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4C7VrZx032539 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I got my gmail account going. We'll see if I like it better than my other webmail. So far so good! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 03:10:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4C89xWm001468 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:10:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:10:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063028C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 4:09:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 365049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 04:09:59 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4C89wOp003599 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 04:09:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([70.152.71.138]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050512080958.XQDZ23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 04:09:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42830F55.2050306@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 03:09:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Oh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was staring at the screen wondering what was wrong with the list -- why I had no list mail this morning. Then I remembered why -- remembered I had set nomail last night. Galloping alzheimers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 06:11:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CBBlWm027557 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:11:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:11:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5C3A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 6:51:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:51:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CAphjP014464 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:51:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so669581wri for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.17 with SMTP id o17mr1065316wrc; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:51:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=bYvsIHBhxkKqACDAVfJf2XuCWtlZtb/M/Q6Jhtn/qTYLA4XAdxFHwdfqpcnSszcTjRvpKUuWIgDc05FAgDrjgTZuUX8WmY9R7yCrWtVNiCzn/ScvXvkHU+kfODHARyTEnmjLfSUxKZGscgSj6ilMWRbrGOrmqywp4MGucECnGCE= Message-ID: <8865866a050512035114d5b7cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:51:41 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: phillynyems@hotmail.com, torkel@sm.luth.se, gisela@nordstrom.nu, eriepamom@yahoo.com, dan@fatburen.org, d_booser@hotmail.com, ann.stalhammar@chello.se, English Language Discussion Group Subject: Taipei, day 4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4CAphjP014465 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan is done working and now we have a few days of vacation to enjoy ourselves. The hotel's breakfast ends at 9:30 and they mean it. You get kicked out at 9:30. No coming in 5 minutes before closing and enjoying a quiet breakfast. The servers even went around 15 minutes before closing and reminded you. Dan would always pull out his watch and say "But that is 15 minutes from now, " meaning "Leave us alone to enjoy our breakfast." I don't think they ever understood what he was getting at. Neither of us are morning people and don't like to even talk so early in the morning (Yes, 9:30 is early!) I took Dan to the temple and the same store because it was worth doing again. BTW, they have big cockroaches in Taipei. Lunchtime! I had printed out a list of vegetarian restaurants from a site called Happy Cow and we proceeded to try and find one of them. I was getting hungry, frustrated and hot when we finally found the address and discovered it was now a furniture store. Sigh. However, down the road was an English tea house that served me a "macaroni with a vegetarian diet." I thought it was strange that the English on the menu wasn't better, considering that the place was run by a Scottish woman. It was an oven baked cheese dish and it was yummy! But you could oven bake pretty much anything with enough cheese and I'd eat it! And I drank the best ice tea there EVER - mango and papaya ice tea. With our energy back and our bladders empty, we set off for the Chiang Kai-shek Memorial. On the grounds was a nice, but not well taken care of botanical garden. It was a veritable Who's Who of all the houseplants I've killed over the years! Dan seemed impressed that I knew all the names of all the things that have croaked on my assorted windowsills. The Memorial was huge and we looked around a bit, taking pictures and enjoying the windy, but cloudy afternoon. We headed back to the hotel for a rest and decide what's next. After looking over the Happy Cow list, we decided to look for a particular restaurant on Wuchang street. There were several on the same street so it looked promising. Then we decided to check out the Night Market. When we found the address on Wuchang Street, it was not a vegetarian restaurant but it had been and the restaurant had moved two blocks away. So we set off again and didn't find the place. We were not having much luck with this list!! Again hungry, frustrated and irritated, we went to the first restaurant we found. I think my IQ sinks to about 70 when I'm hungry because it didn't occur to me to go back to Wuchang Street and find one of the other restaurants on the list. No matter. There was one person at this restaurant that understood English and I got a good slimy tofu dish and some fried sweet potato greens. According to Dan, the Night Market was usually more lively. It wasn't that crowded. We perused the area, buying a few small trinkets and noticing that there were a lot of sex toy shops there (!). There were several places that did reflexology massages. Now I don't believe if you touch my toe that it affects my brain more than my brain saying, "Feels nice. Continue please!" I couldn't resist. I got a really great foot massage while Dan watched amused. It tickled and it felt several times like I hit my funny bone. The employees there seemed interested in us and wanted to learn what the different body parts were called in English. I have a world map, a map of Europe,a map of Sweden and a map of the U.S. in my Filofax and was able to show them where we had come from. They seemed impressed. The subway wasn't running so late so we took a taxi back to the hotel. Fortunately, the hotel has a card that you show the taxi driver if you don't know Chinese. We tumbled into bed at 2 AM and I groaned when I thought about having to get up for breakfast in the morning. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 06:32:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CBWGWm030050 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:32:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:32:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5C4A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 7:32:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 369899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:32:16 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CBMGPO009209 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:22:16 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4CBM8i4024936 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:22:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 07:22:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: bank accounts/service charges Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have for years had multiple checking/saving accounts - both for IRS record-keeping reasons and because I do not like to have direct private transfers into and out of my primary checking account, particularly if they originate in another country. As requirements for transfers have changed over the years (some institutions will transfer into/out of only checking accounts today), I have closed all but two of each. They serve me well. Also, having some funds go directly to a savings account helps me with saving goals. (I pay no service charges for these accounts except a voluntary monthly fee on one that allows me various free things, like additional checks if I need them, which I do for many things.) There is one servive fee that I do not mind paying ocasionaslly - that is to our UT travel agency. If is often worth the $20 per ticket to know that they will handle problems. I once got a full refund on a ticket to Australia that I probably would not have been able to get on my own. The airline delayed my flight, then told me that thay could not get me to Sydney util the last day of the conference I had planned to go to. I stayed home - and got the full refund, not just FFMs. (Often, of course, UT is paying the $20, but I occasionally pay it.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 06:55:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CBswWm000528 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:54:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:55:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063046D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 7:54:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 371106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:54:58 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CBsvs1012020 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:54:57 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4CBsudI018007 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:54:56 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j4CBsuDU018005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:54:56 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:54:56 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cars Message-ID: <20050512115456.GA17993@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4282AF62.4090509@maynor.net> <20050512071318.GA16341@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1372859964.20050512012256@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1372859964.20050512012256@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 01:22:56AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: = 5/12/2005, 1:13 AM, steph wrote: = = s> Yes. Americans only drive automatics. = = Some do. But there are a hell of a lot who drive stick, and many who = will ONLY drive stick, unless stuck with a rental...which AFAIK are Blah blah bla. Dan. Please turn on your brain. I was not serious. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 06:55:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CBtoWm000650 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:55:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 06:55:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5C4C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 7:55:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 371117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:55:49 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CBtmq0012070 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:55:49 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4CBtmv2018032 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:55:48 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j4CBtmFh018030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:55:48 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:55:48 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oh Message-ID: <20050512115548.GB17993@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42830F55.2050306@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42830F55.2050306@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 03:09:57AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = remembered I had set nomail last night. Galloping alzheimers. = Why did you set us nomail? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 07:24:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CCNuWm004125 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:23:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:24:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006304BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 8:23:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 372085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:23:55 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CCNthI014582 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:23:55 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so695530wri for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 05:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.13.77 with SMTP id 77mr1101701wrm; Thu, 12 May 2005 05:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 05:23:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ivaOjOlPCWnn74YPmRh3oakJiaBjK5TObCAUA1slmHymP4HtyPBeMM8vVfITvT8NMpl3RFvJNFvkMu2+wIuK+pnKSYzxfjjPNYhiSLC/57BBXhEWiBmE87fJ2w5rxmmRvOR98WX5OJ80RcTCawUGopOHm0Slll5GeeD+WLznN7s= Message-ID: <83db447a05051205232f023c68@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:23:55 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: back home In-Reply-To: <82781628.20050512000802@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> <82781628.20050512000802@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CCNuWm004125 On 5/12/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > Never done international travel thru DTW, but at DFW, LAX, ORD, and > HNL, the international terminal is separate....and you go back outside > of security to check your bags after bringing them through customs. > Thus the requirement to rescreen you. That I can understand---as I can fully appreciate having to go back through security after we met Steph at Schiphol. What I fail to understand is the need at DTW, where we never "broke" security; the x-ray machines that accepted our bags after we cleared customs were in the secure area. In fact, the way we were herded around, it would have been impossible to get to a non-secure area without taking out a lot of TSA types. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 07:36:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CCaFWm005737 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:36:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:36:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5C50E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 8:16:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 371850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:16:11 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CCGBEd013640 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:16:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so693475wri for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 05:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.45 with SMTP id 45mr1084715wrz; Thu, 12 May 2005 05:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kXOx03eFEB4V+KOhMwOnmMMea7jcTEknCRTboSN1DnDuWeLNK+T//asDyagsuINbar+cRhjLhsgafil4B6HX1GHaMQIRIJqMSaT7XdgRoOt/lI6BiqVHveT/DZnp9ztHRKgwQ4jHzAH0gZaeql+eAdq2X1twDZrYstdfD2DO+BE= Message-ID: <83db447a050512051669a9fe6d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:16:10 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: hat 3% In-Reply-To: <708680992.20050511235507@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <1388273808.20050510064701@gailndan.com> <4280AEF8.6060008@maynor.net> <1544427286.20050510070040@gailndan.com> <4280B66B.5070809@akad.ee> <4280BDB5.7000004@maynor.net> <4280C9B3.6060007@akad.ee> <489616280.20050511000348@gailndan.com> <4281FFAF.5000701@maynor.net> <708680992.20050511235507@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CCaFWm005737 On 5/12/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > Not surprised that they're still available at various backwater > places. I guess that Maine is not nearly as sophisticated as is Boise. ATM cards are still used here and are honored at all ATMs---although there may be a service charge at some that are operated by competing or non-cooperating banks. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 07:36:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CCaoWm005779 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:36:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:36:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5C590@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 8:36:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:36:50 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CCanDR017264 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:36:49 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19369795 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 05:40:17 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 12 May 2005 05:37:08 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:36:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <192050470.20050512063655@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Cars In-Reply-To: <20050512115456.GA17993@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4282AF62.4090509@maynor.net> <20050512071318.GA16341@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1372859964.20050512012256@gailndan.com> <20050512115456.GA17993@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 195, in=80543, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 5:54 AM, steph wrote: s> Blah blah bla. Dan. Please turn on your brain. I s> was not serious. Didn't say you were. But who knew about some of the others hereabouts. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 07:38:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CCcBWm005919 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:38:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:38:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630462@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 8:38:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:38:10 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CCc9LC017427 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:38:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19369906 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 05:41:38 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([132.178.175.216]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 12 May 2005 05:38:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:38:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <482253834.20050512063817@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: back home In-Reply-To: <83db447a05051205232f023c68@mail.gmail.com> References: <83db447a0505110659445e0162@mail.gmail.com> <82781628.20050512000802@gailndan.com> <83db447a05051205232f023c68@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 195, in=80544, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 6:23 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: CV> What I fail CV> to understand is the CV> need at DTW, where we never "broke" security; the CV> x-ray machines that CV> accepted our bags after we cleared customs were in CV> the secure area. No idea why. As noted, my experience different, but because of going to nonsecure areas in between, of necessity. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 09:11:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CEApWm016411 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:11:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F5C9B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:10:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 381785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:10:45 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CEAjhL001134 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:10:45 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2005051214113411100osejve>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:11:34 +0000 Message-Id: <200505121410.j4CEAjhL001134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: A-a-lec! Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:10:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <4282633B.2020806@akad.ee> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVWY40pRnUGOKGeQDGy5PtYIKfAQAAmMCFw Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kristin Sarv >Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:56 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: A-a-lec! > >Hey, having a cake? Listening to songs from best friends? > >I hope you have a good day. Happy Birthday! > >Kristin > Thanks. Alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 09:24:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CEO5Wm018734 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:24:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:24:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063077F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:14:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 382026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:14:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CEE4KV001851 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:14:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so652595wra for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.18 with SMTP id 18mr1013026wru; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:14:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iKgMtN5L1ribZDMo8EzxpnIcN/Ihg2CRdRTiHXudIBqc8Nh4379tHCCNH5YyS61OlGeiLFQAvitA0FQPvY0rjQpBfIcApbyydGWpCdCf5LtkJhNxHcmf67ovEv/A5y2SYlNQSlA+8V2nWazPJbpdopJIe69C4IkxJRDFWigBfRg= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:14:04 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience In-Reply-To: <9110270971.20050512004347@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> <427FDEEB.9070807@maynor.net> <13510409364.20050510013511@gailndan.com> <42809AB3.4090505@maynor.net> <9110270971.20050512004347@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CEO5Wm018734 > > but I guess they'd have to get it to some bank that would get it back > to Norway, etc. > > Why didn't you just save it for your next trip? > dan > By the time we go back to Norway, if ever, I would have forgotten about where I put it. Probably. Or possibly Norway would have gone to Euros and the money would have been worthless. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 09:24:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CEO5Wn018734 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:24:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:24:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063084A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:17:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 382415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:17:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CEHsI6002633 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:17:54 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so653985wra for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.40 with SMTP id e40mr995516wra; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:17:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=did/7zv3EaZJrpI13kYbXgRn630T4deFdB30KbXm5eIy68un8WEKbl6qzTREG6a4oU2h6PkiEEUEMQEH1V57pBzqj4x22dPWYZXGThodIe2iyHerF7ZulKQ+xuZm5BjXzIJzVCyauCwTwkpqJ6w/p73gv3FV8jXQjICfYG8iog0= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:17:52 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CRAP!! In-Reply-To: <4282A24E.3060409@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4282A24E.3060409@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CEO5Wn018734 > > (What this has to do with the bc people is that in addition to taping it > for myself since I'm going to be gone tomorrow night, I am going to tape > this one and the next few Survivors for them since they are in France > and Spain -- he in France, she in Spain. They left their VCR set to > tape those weeks, but electricity in Starkville is famously iffy.) > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Poor Natalie. She doesn't seem to realize that tonight is the second to the last Survivor with the three hour finale being this Sunday night while she is probably still in California. I don't have TIVO but we do have a DVD Recorder with a hard drive. It recorded 21 programs for me over the two weeks we were gone. Because it isn't TIVO, it did miss the Survivor that was postponed an hour because of the Presidential press conference. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 09:29:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CETQWm019411 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:29:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:29:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F5CA4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:29:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 383575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:29:26 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CETQef005115 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:29:26 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so102566rnf for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.3.23 with SMTP id f23mr227441rni; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.5 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:29:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dMDpmDyrp+CYQ9krYbafauojgA8HKL6yNNRoLL8Bsdg8vphViCFmi5m4F46SnaeCM4sIKcZVWsKmH5mI04tFn7GsHbJYgRal0W64wyUr6Q58qNL+JC8Lwh8UMMauwULneD5dCFbVYNJEEf1iU+KDlfx4UybbopDmh0Fvhyt3xNc= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:29:24 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cars In-Reply-To: <1372859964.20050512012256@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4282AF62.4090509@maynor.net> <20050512071318.GA16341@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1372859964.20050512012256@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4CETQef005116 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/12/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Some do. But there are a hell of a lot who drive stick, and many who > will ONLY drive stick, unless stuck with a rental...which AFAIK are > always automatic...unless renting something exotic, like the Ferraris > and Corvettes and Lotuses they rent on Maui and some other > places....for those who are willing to go 400 to 600 a day for them. Not too many years ago, I got a stick shift car without asking for it at a mainstream (Hertz, I think) rental place at the LAX airport. Probably just an error, but all I asked was if they had any Japanese cars. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 09:35:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CEZGWm020224 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:35:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:35:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006308AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:35:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:35:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CEZFxB006165 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:35:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so695603nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.18 with SMTP id t18mr644438nzc; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:35:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YtawX69DS9gn46g+CLBYIz2WqBiLto3N5dKBXj+EKJkKPE0jAlV+t/o3fgpP7XakBnB/Ou2uzSsIPhaC+eaVF1ESjnqncBGN7pQaUWxifHBDvE0YmEtP0T3zaVIut/AyH6o393JYa/W9RyvNUX+L7eWgHW9qlbjeQYbtlfnevyE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051207353ea9fad6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:35:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: <8865866a0505120022d336265@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> <8ddfc8a705051115387185b8a@mail.gmail.com> <8865866a0505120022d336265@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CEZGWm020224 On 5/12/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > On 5/12/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 5/11/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > > > > > I watched the people worship in fascination. I'm not > > > sure exactly which god they were trying to convince to be benevolent > > > towards them. > > > > How do you know that that's what they were doing? > > Well, I didn't 100% but I am familiar with some Buddhist rituals. Go to http://www.buddhistinformation.com/is_buddhism_a_religion1.htm and look for intercede. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 09:39:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CEdNWm020713 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:39:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:39:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063080D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:39:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:39:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CEdL8N006819 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:39:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so697285nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.4 with SMTP id b4mr652023nzd; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:39:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bXVy/HoYqmMVnZbnePOhVuLia5ptrT1QNVDa7cI6WpsrB9LNk5LIbncorbLYPm5+U6otHlU9QsmrtOak32XHJpZWodv0+yWlAHFaLd3ZcTGQTplN6qitSOMDYUtJnARGc1cEYpOZWdK6KbdIgzw/kFBuM9apmSYd3FhgAMdz7pI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051207394767e7d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:39:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <1294953645.20050512000330@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505102325dc27780@mail.gmail.com> <1054644787.20050511005755@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051104254dac6e92@mail.gmail.com> <232689376.20050511070334@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505110612241e2ef4@mail.gmail.com> <1294953645.20050512000330@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CEdNWm020713 On 5/12/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/11/2005, 7:12 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> Through the card. > > Right, if it is a credit card. I have no idea what this is talking about. AFoA> But e-Bay has its own protections. > AFoA> IME, very few people on > AFoA> e-Bay actually take cards of any sort--all my > AFoA> transactions have been through > AFoA> PayPal or the ilk, and they also have their own > AFoA> protections. > > Well, most take credit cards thru paypal. Personally, from those > who've had problems with them, I've heard that the "protections" and > the "chance of recovery" from either ebay, paypal, or one of their > customers, is remote. A local guy sold some thirty grand of hockey > equipment on ebay, all stolen from the place he worked. But that > wasn't good enough for him....he sold about six times as much as he > had to sell. I'm sure he'll end up in jail (now out on bail, I think). > But the chance of the people he screwed ever getting their money back > is remote as he's spent all the funds obtained, has no job, will be in > jail, etc, etc. If they used credit cards, they'll probably have > successful recovery (and of course that is one of the things the > credit card fees go for....to pay back people who are ripped off...so > part of your fees are paying for "insurance"). If they paid with > cash, check, or debit card, they're SOL. > I guess I buy different things than you do over the web. I have been using a debit card to buy things as long as I've been buying things over the web and never had a problem. But it would never occur to me to buy stolen hockey equipment. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 09:45:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CEjIWm021403 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:45:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:45:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006308DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:45:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:45:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CEjHs7008054 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:45:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so700133nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.42.13 with SMTP id p13mr647765nzp; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qmsL+JRSxAMsx5dIujO4aTpkMNTk+K04KLGAEpQQg8l0sSCTahZnBK8XLoZiL0NR533cDc7ZjqozRPnWik5xAcwt88+mb/R+IeOf1L1C3XWUs7R6K7aNyvzpW6vrHUpUFUbRxg1e+tBQ9i91PHDJo5zk1xQbsChGWrTNt7Qmv4s= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051207456e218890@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:45:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <16610686540.20050512003546@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <428259B9.2010508@akad.ee> <16610686540.20050512003546@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CEjIWm021403 On 5/12/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > From all that I've read, if your card is lost and funds are taken from > your account, or if it is used fraudulently for a purchase, the bank > won't give you your money back. On a credit card they will, though in > some cases only for amounts over fifty bucks. > You need to read more. http://www.nclnet.org/debitbro.htm#whatif says: "Government regulations require debit card issuers to set a maximum liability of $50 if the debit card is reported lost or stolen within two days of discovery.." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 09:59:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CEx6Wm023133 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:59:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:59:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00630777@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:59:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 386244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:59:06 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CEx52H010844 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:59:05 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4CEx3j4007610 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:59:04 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505121459.j4CEx3j4007610@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 12 May 2005 09:35:15 CDT." <8ddfc8a705051207353ea9fad6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:59:03 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen says: >Go to http://www.buddhistinformation.com/is_buddhism_a_religion1.htm >and look for intercede. You're referring, then, to the statement Buddhists do not believe it is necessary to have a middleman intercede between them and the perfection of the Master they chose to emulate and be like. Like nearly every statement made about "Buddhists", this is by no means a universal truth. Nothing prevents Buddhists from praying to any number of gods, for relief or intercession or wealth or health or whatever, and very many do. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 10:12:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CFCiWm025451 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:12:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:12:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006307F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:12:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 387855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:12:43 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CFChB1014040 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:12:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006308FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:12:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200505121512.j4CFChB1014040@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:12:43 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Taiwan To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 12 May 2005 00:09:16 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >5/11/2005, 8:18 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >CO> IF you start specifying, you may have to admit more >CO> than you want >CO> about the details of "I hate skinny little things". >CO> Better to let it go. > >No secrets here. If you want details about such, ask. If not, don't. >But there's nothing I won't tell you. Where's a cluex4 when you need one? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 10:33:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CFXPWm028015 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:33:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:33:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063082D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:23:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 388888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:23:25 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CFNO04016302 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:23:24 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 59137264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:23:23 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512082209.00bfdc50@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:23:23 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Speaking of Last Days Onboard In-Reply-To: <4282FC70.7050301@gmail.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050511183918.0279e830@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510104519.02fd62c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050510144210.02fe9600@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42813ACF.1060905@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050511183918.0279e830@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:49 AM 5/12/2005 +0200, you wrote: >Betty F Clark skrev 12.05.2005 03:41: > >>At 03:50 PM 5/10/2005, you wrote: >> >>>>My son, Ryan, has volunteered to make BART runs. >>> >>> >>>Neat! Tell me again where those pictures are that you took when camping >>>last summer (?) so that I can look at his picture and recognize him. >> >> >> >>Here are the camping photos and I have some of him on Flickr, I think. >> >>http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c240207.html > >This looks like a place I would like to visit! We got every year. Larry has been going for almost 60 years now! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:12:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGBsWm032753 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:11:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:12:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630A24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:51:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 392094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:51:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CFppkL021797 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:51:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so731061nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.4 with SMTP id b4mr699131nzd; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DnGDoJkOySyK7sQf/gExTUuU4G7h+kgaCIL05Y6nAIEoTwMZLkE1+vVVEqsqvo8L7wTAsfESeB7mPAo58PDTqQWE4jxfTRgwHGJvJGnYpIOej199QAbTbCe/Qthgs3kTPs186EOFutUfEWB66X2UKsLrk/JnTE2L0mAWazdjPCM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051208514a6342b4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:51:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: <200505121459.j4CEx3j4007610@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051207353ea9fad6@mail.gmail.com> <200505121459.j4CEx3j4007610@sm.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CGBsWm032753 On 5/12/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > > Karen says: > > >Go to http://www.buddhistinformation.com/is_buddhism_a_religion1.htm > >and look for intercede. > > You're referring, then, to the statement > > Buddhists do not believe it is necessary to have a middleman intercede > between them and the perfection of the Master they chose to emulate > and be like. > > Like nearly every statement made about "Buddhists", this is by no > means a universal truth. Nothing prevents Buddhists from praying to > any number of gods, for relief or intercession or wealth or health or > whatever, and very many do. > Of course. But they generally don't go to a Buddhist temple to do it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:12:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGBsWm032755 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:11:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:12:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630A5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:58:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 392684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:58:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CFwgaH022611 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:58:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so696563wra for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.20 with SMTP id x20mr1042487wrc; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 08:58:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bKEngHcCosYCJV3NdY7pKlZoAnLpODQjsrZUgNn6jcvF5Hx5Q+l3JZKikS1PhKJd6G96ePLRPfUpuiH9MiJFn212QpFBPyrm6oj27PoQbd0CxNFzkK1+9SOPcxEoHIcthBLrXqJwsffeFHTVLJEbmEovWjdjjhJu+r7mAMUblYQ= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:58:40 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CGBsWm032755 > > I watched the people worship in fascination. ... ... While watching the > people, I felt a tiny pang of jealousy. I do not and cannot believe > in any god but I must admit I am jealous of those who find peace in > religion. I need to find that peace of mind without a god. I know it > is possible but it ain't easy! For you to be jealous of a believer is to wish to be duped. Don't go there. >I bought a can of asparagus juice, a thingy that helps you put your >hair in a bun (impressed I found it in brown), stainless steel >chopsticks (purists are probably cringing at the thought), instant >coffee (they weren't generous with refills at breakfast and they had >a water cooker in the hotel room), and a bunch of other small items. >Fun! Fun! Fun!! There is part of your mother in you. Someday you will live in a house surrounded by clutter. Jetlag was killing me and I retired to the hotel to rest my eyes, after > talking to Torkel via Skype for quite a while. --Marcia I never felt jetlag in Norway. I feel it now. I'm having sinking spells of exhaustion every few hours. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:15:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGEvWm000214 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:14:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:15:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630B14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:14:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 394823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:14:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CGEugw025336 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:14:56 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so703380wra for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.53.8 with SMTP id b8mr1041839wra; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:14:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JjL+lOQoeITsDQWpwnj7uI3/GJYn5TpZ0SduoOxpZor3lswK8wseKIXacRVzrjLbhh7NEJQnHeCtNp1PwyRNx1/aDDM6+b3lw0AvXF93ggadPLr1kyMWWKdkRisu0obRsKg93HW6FdW8ecpIVmoo7voqHFPEk2XIBgI8y+yauNk= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:14:56 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language In-Reply-To: <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CGEvWm000214 > > (3) I rarely have as much as > $20,000 in my checking account, so the bill-paying would bounce -- or > whatever you call it if at the date Visa grabs the money from my > checking account, the bill was higher than the checking account > balance. I don't know what would happen in such a case, but my guess is > that it would be . -- Natalie I had the advantage of reading this entire discussion as a thread on gmail. One thing that was not addressed (surely, it was the only thing) is that the consequence would not be unpleasant. It's a credit card. They would suck as much money as they could out of the checking account and carry the balance, charging interest until it was paid in full. No problem. And not all that unpleasant unless one considers the idea of paying interest as a horror. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:20:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGJtWm000689 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:19:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:20:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630B47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:19:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 395406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:19:54 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CGJr7o026005 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:19:54 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4CGJqj4015758 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:19:52 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505121619.j4CGJqj4015758@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 12 May 2005 10:51:51 CDT." <8ddfc8a705051208514a6342b4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:19:52 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Of course. But they generally don't go to a Buddhist temple to do it. Sure they do. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:37:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGbQWm003132 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:37:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:37:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5D096@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:27:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 396556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:27:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CGRKTq027035 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:27:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so746805nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.12 with SMTP id s12mr706165nzc; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:27:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=LYi1bdE19ySMLZK4fzCUcaDYR0XcJFrzu8WC8oHPxnatHsKIBkG7t9+sXTMapVopFoX3i2Ojm1JaZ1zCi3Rmvu7BvKy9mgKGKPFVG7MliqmH5ixu8dJzk6KgI4meMYB2OWCeOeE0bBjs/h1XA4CPG0Q8EBd3EtCMO7hTMVBzAU4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:27:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Confrontation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CGbQWm003132 I have been trying to get Nanook used to going outside under VERY controlled circumstances. Yesterday, he went out on the front walk for a while, and then when he came in, he gazed longingly out the back window. At one point, he was desperate to go out, and it turns out that Oliver, the orange boy from next door, was on the patio. (The six cats from next door treat my yard like their own.) I went to let Nanook out, because this confrontation has to occur at some point, but when I turned the handle in the door, Oliver ran. This morning, I let Nanook out in the front again; he was very eager, and waited by the door for me to open it. He immediately went to the end of the walk and looked around--and saw Oliver next door on his driveway. I called Nanook, and he came back and started playing with the grass closer to the stoop. The next thing I knew, Oliver was mewing from the end of our walk. Nanook stopped moving entirely as Oliver moved slowly forward, sliding on the pads of his feet like a Noh actor. Over the space of 15 minutes or so, Oliver moved forward until he was six inches from Nanook's nose. One of them growled, Oliver hissed and ran away. I picked up Nanook and brought him in, soothing his ruffled fur. He was very shaken by the experience, I think. I don't know if this bodes well or ill--Oliver was clearly the aggressor, but he was also doing all the supplicatory moves. His mews were kitten mews, not adult meows, and he did a bunch of belly slithering at the end. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:38:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGc4Wm003198 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:38:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:38:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630BED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:34:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 397242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:34:10 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CGY9Ed028003 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:34:10 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4CGY9j4010395 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:34:09 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505121634.j4CGY9j4010395@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 12 May 2005 11:28:03 CDT." <8ddfc8a705051209282258baeb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:34:08 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen says: > >Of course. But they generally don't go to a Buddhist temple to do it. > >Sure they do. >I'm sure you know best, Torkel. Yep. Let us consider specifically Buddhism in present-day Taiwan. Buddhism's Adherents in Taiwan Today What about the average worshipper? What does he know and understand about Buddhism in Taiwan today? This author looked up from reading in preparation for writing this manuscript and spoke in Taiwanese to the workman in her home. "Mr. Wu, what god do you worship?" His reply was that he worshipped Kuan Yin Buddha. Having read about her referred to as a bodhisattva, this seemed a good opportunity to clear up some confusion as to her identity, so the next query was, "What relationship does Kuan Yin Buddha have to Buddha?" Mr. Wu smiled and said, "I don't know, but when I go to the temple I pray to Kuan Yin, and Buddha, and Matsu, and Tu Ti Kung and a whole lot of other gods that are there in the temple, too." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:38:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGc4Wm003194 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:38:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:38:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00630AB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:28:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 396626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:28:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CGS3CA027162 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:28:03 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so747157nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.132.9 with SMTP id f9mr694934nzd; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:28:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BUcYV4rsBSNMqI6cvLMvm21H/EZ70BG85Lj0ljSZOWsRKZ0sXJxjmpVhESp8t5Zj4LcffuQApvBEpqoUAcNXTk64PEdqJ1I/bfg2rOD22jbYmNUcs8unJlJg8Q+qTZxWuLMz/XWtEWJHMNPzGoIn91Pz7ZaS+CSxmmHRUFohjxI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051209282258baeb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:28:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: <200505121619.j4CGJqj4015758@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051208514a6342b4@mail.gmail.com> <200505121619.j4CGJqj4015758@sm.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CGc4Wm003194 On 5/12/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > > >Of course. But they generally don't go to a Buddhist temple to do it. > > Sure they do. I'm sure you know best, Torkel. I'm done with this conversation. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:38:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGc4Wm003197 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:38:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:38:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00630C9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:34:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 397255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:34:30 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CGYUFa028043 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:34:30 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:34:29 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:34:07 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Confrontation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This story reminds me so much (painfully much) of the process I went through as a kid every time we moved - and we moved a LOT. I have done my share of belly slithering and I actually could feel my belly tighten at the mention of the "six cats from next door" waiting outside for Nanook's appearance. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/12/2005 12:27:20 PM >>> I have been trying to get Nanook used to going outside under VERY controlled circumstances. Yesterday, he went out on the front walk for a while, and then when he came in, he gazed longingly out the back window. At one point, he was desperate to go out, and it turns out that Oliver, the orange boy from next door, was on the patio. (The six cats from next door treat my yard like their own.) I went to let Nanook out, because this confrontation has to occur at some point, but when I turned the handle in the door, Oliver ran. This morning, I let Nanook out in the front again; he was very eager, and waited by the door for me to open it. He immediately went to the end of the walk and looked around--and saw Oliver next door on his driveway. I called Nanook, and he came back and started playing with the grass closer to the stoop. The next thing I knew, Oliver was mewing from the end of our walk. Nanook stopped moving entirely as Oliver moved slowly forward, sliding on the pads of his feet like a Noh actor. Over the space of 15 minutes or so, Oliver moved forward until he was six inches from Nanook's nose. One of them growled, Oliver hissed and ran away. I picked up Nanook and brought him in, soothing his ruffled fur. He was very shaken by the experience, I think. I don't know if this bodes well or ill--Oliver was clearly the aggressor, but he was also doing all the supplicatory moves. His mews were kitten mews, not adult meows, and he did a bunch of belly slithering at the end. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:39:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGdEWm003320 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:39:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:39:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00630CE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:39:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 397952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:39:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CGdATQ028666 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:39:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so790910wri for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.77 with SMTP id o77mr1211344wro; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SC1dKrGWntlCQ51c2APitoJvPF2n8k02cZPRwhXV8IVEObaz9QeRM2ng6PxnUq1fYeb8lXVwIr6r35RrCNWCXAHvJ9TXmKgFCglJQaW6DyzjDDL/ddEyp/4pdNh/vlaDuPOrfOT+0LzoLDOZ1PqQGmVdbJu9CxmwvQMqthbXSHs= Message-ID: <8865866a05051209392597e3f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:39:07 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4CGdATQ028667 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/12/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > I watched the people worship in fascination. ... ... While watching the > > people, I felt a tiny pang of jealousy. I do not and cannot believe > > in any god but I must admit I am jealous of those who find peace in > > religion. I need to find that peace of mind without a god. I know it > > is possible but it ain't easy! > > For you to be jealous of a believer is to wish to be duped. Don't go > there. I know there is truth in that statement, which is one of the reasons I can't believe in a god or a religion. > > >I bought a can of asparagus juice, a thingy that helps you put your > >hair in a bun (impressed I found it in brown), stainless steel > >chopsticks (purists are probably cringing at the thought), instant > >coffee (they weren't generous with refills at breakfast and they had > >a water cooker in the hotel room), and a bunch of other small items. > >Fun! Fun! Fun!! > There is part of your mother in you. Someday you will live in a house > surrounded by clutter. I find that statement truly insulting. But then you don't know my mother. I go through my shit at least twice a year and every time I move and get rid of the stuff I haven't used. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:49:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGnbWm004581 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:49:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:49:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00630BC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:49:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 399471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:49:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CGnZ1i030195 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:49:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so757159nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.119.12 with SMTP id r12mr724238nzc; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 09:49:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AGUuMTlXsGDefvTf06FuZaV2tMNw34klil0KhyZmz3IgYtkgWjavMe5EdITgcFiETXg7D9diyX1t6vxit+iyAlBn2bQdkgfQfsWMDwxqMzpa4sq2fWbKVCGFAeZLQHMKyjqtNtXHehAlpq3kvSV7Aduz6z/B45gWZa+er2YqPcc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051209492b8e0566@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:49:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CGnbWm004581 On 5/12/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > This story reminds me so much (painfully much) of the process I went > through as a kid every time we moved - and we moved a LOT. I have done > my share of belly slithering and I actually could feel my belly tighten > at the mention of the "six cats from next door" waiting outside for > Nanook's appearance. > Do you have any advice for me about how to make it easier on Nanook? The best I can think of is to just BE THERE when it goes down. I won't interfere (other than Heisenbergally) unless it gets violent. He clearly is interested in getting to know the other cats and playing with them. But Oliver is the one closest to him in age, so that's the most important relationship, I think. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 11:59:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CGxQWm005904 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:59:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:59:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630D2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:59:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 400479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:59:25 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CGxP4o031335 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:59:25 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:59:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:59:01 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Confrontation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Perhaps you should ask my mother this question. and I think her answer would likely be some version of "you can't make it easier - he has to do it for himself" BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/12/2005 12:49:35 PM >>> Do you have any advice for me about how to make it easier on Nanook? The best I can think of is to just BE THERE when it goes down. I won't interfere (other than Heisenbergally) unless it gets violent. He clearly is interested in getting to know the other cats and playing with them. But Oliver is the one closest to him in age, so that's the most important relationship, I think. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 12:07:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CH7DWm007414 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:07:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:07:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00630E2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:07:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 401314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:07:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CH7CBB032350 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:07:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so765331nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.18 with SMTP id t18mr741355nzc; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:07:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JkEAMbYr/LcMPnWRhVVyGaWRH/wmAtPhluFEeyUr7LMe4SMQjrPzUwfrCn0iLqxmBv/KFgIecznyK8MZ9W7bf+r99JV/t8bHH6s2veauX+6u12B6mL/6sGaqIIEJuele79v2aqReFNI3X1xurNT0CBtT6BoYsV14zKSIz5wB/ec= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051210076bb7abd4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:07:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CH7DWm007414 On 5/12/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Perhaps you should ask my mother this question. > > and I think her answer would likely be some version of "you can't make > it easier - he has to do it for himself" > Yeah. As I suspected. I am really rooting for him--I think he can kick Oliver's ass. But Oliver is older and wily. And he was my favorite of the cats next door, which makes it hard. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 12:11:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CHBeWm008022 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:11:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:11:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630D9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:11:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 401606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:11:40 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHBdwx000386 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:11:39 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:11:38 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:11:15 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Confrontation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's obvious you've never been a boy. Confrontation and friendship are not mutually exclusive categories. I predict they will be best buds once the pissing and hissing are out of the way. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/12/2005 1:07:11 PM >>> On 5/12/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Perhaps you should ask my mother this question. > > and I think her answer would likely be some version of "you can't make > it easier - he has to do it for himself" > Yeah. As I suspected. I am really rooting for him--I think he can kick Oliver's ass. But Oliver is older and wily. And he was my favorite of the cats next door, which makes it hard. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:39:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWm011890 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630E36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:21:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 403043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:21:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHLURx002028 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:21:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so772172nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.12 with SMTP id s12mr737138nzc; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:21:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=arktIcSo/wKl+f1gpoZzAO0B+I/+AxoCBVy9PlXv31NGLgX4pxh9fqpD6J4+dw7yeIP0M1F4pb2EEDJQcHubsjpEjWremcO6mwYaWlj77b58Hwlbyu1G4BiWI3UcOSYd6IyacnPmKjqoJT4WRFkQjoC+nHQyGB9HNz+zHOdBIGg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050512102130b8e549@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:21:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CIdBWm011890 On 5/12/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > It's obvious you've never been a boy. Yes, we've had this conversation before. (I was reminded of Ligniere and my housemate this morning.) Karen who doesn't quite get it From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:39:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWm011893 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00630D51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:24:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 403525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:24:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHOY1s002757 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:24:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so773581nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr752117nzd; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:24:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QJTsyGBy2T+EzyrN50FKA9JNplyQScmdwffl83tsOlhFGW4Fs1sveslBZRC4fTzo3N8efbN8b8owSWuB3vKOU7A7bZ19SStCfpudcEscx7DcdysVY6Z4rVRNxIeNpJArkpCXuD5/9g8ZdNuqNG+QZnNrPdeHzIrGqLQE3pNQaXw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050512102464517756@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:24:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CIdBWm011893 On 5/12/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > It's way too early to tell. Oliver wanted to get acquainted with the new > kitten and as you note, he made the first moves, but not aggressively. > That > seems to be a good sign. Nonetheless, there is a lot of tension in the > first > few encounters---all of the sounds and body language are means of > establishing the rules. I don't believe that there is any set number of > encounters that defines the final relationship. Well, yeah (to the last sentence). There's no such thing as a "final relationship", unless you're dead. I guess I'll continue bringing him out and watching what happens. I do appreciate your words of encouragement, and the reminder that there is always tension. Burl already lived next door, so there was no issue. The other cats of my experience were indoor cats. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:39:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWm011897 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00630CDB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:16:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 402246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:16:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHGeaX001146 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:16:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so769938nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.18 with SMTP id j18mr733393nzj; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=h1F0nBK/ItASbuBpceyFgfN4hpZiqWTkJfX/iUsVXjAlXBCxGEcgI7156pG+aq18ZtsrwsTsiCGM4855UnHQ3VrCJmChkxbkyuCR6lk4975zI+eI3Udq/qNzfIzcbPNmshpTng0Ht0lVg0HSCvkEqbUrbv99tll4CDYghqyAuww= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051210165cbb9e32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:16:40 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a lot to say In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CIdBWm011897 I get carpal tunnel symptoms just reading this! On 5/12/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > from sciencedaily.com > > ---------------------------------- > > India man sets phone text record > > LUDHIANA, India, May 11 (UPI) -- A Ludhiana, India, man has been > registered in the Guinness Book of World Records for sending 182,689 > text messages a month, CNET News reported Wednesday. > > Deepak Sharma's total breaks down to about 6,000 messages a day, 253 an > hour, and 4.2 a minute -- or one message every 14 seconds, CNET said. > > Sharma told Web News India he aims the torrent of texts at his friends > and family. He said he plans to increase his record to 300,000 during > the coming month. > > Wireless operator Airtel reportedly sent the prolific phone-typist a > 1,411 page bill. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:39:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWm011896 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630DC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:14:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 401948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:14:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHEXEc000821 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:14:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:14:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:14:20 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: a lot to say Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU from sciencedaily.com ---------------------------------- India man sets phone text record LUDHIANA, India, May 11 (UPI) -- A Ludhiana, India, man has been registered in the Guinness Book of World Records for sending 182,689 text messages a month, CNET News reported Wednesday. Deepak Sharma's total breaks down to about 6,000 messages a day, 253 an hour, and 4.2 a minute -- or one message every 14 seconds, CNET said. Sharma told Web News India he aims the torrent of texts at his friends and family. He said he plans to increase his record to 300,000 during the coming month. Wireless operator Airtel reportedly sent the prolific phone-typist a 1,411 page bill. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:39:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWn011890 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00630F10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:24:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 403569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:24:59 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHOxVD002821 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:24:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:24:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:24:30 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Confrontation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU yes I thought of them when I read about Nanook and Oliver BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/12/2005 1:21:30 PM >>> On 5/12/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: (I was reminded of Ligniere and my housemate this morning.) Karen who doesn't quite get it From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:39:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWm011898 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630DA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:12:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 401690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:12:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHCXEv000521 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:12:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so803408wri for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.141.10 with SMTP id o10mr1245433wrd; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:12:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ulj1IRXPXvsDH7wB9Pd0jKCQV87cjRzYX8Fch9KrchCrbF79il97UOHpFhW1e6i4GZNlDgf+urKF1bx+CHoyghQv+8jVDgAS0URQzUGIbzYF66rCj3xoRQVnACCEHm630rU0F8BKcMjmVpNqdz82MuGp83q5icpp7INamKQfnEI= Message-ID: <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:12:33 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CIdBWm011898 On 5/12/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > I don't know if this bodes well or ill-- It's way too early to tell. Oliver wanted to get acquainted with the new kitten and as you note, he made the first moves, but not aggressively. That seems to be a good sign. Nonetheless, there is a lot of tension in the first few encounters---all of the sounds and body language are means of establishing the rules. I don't believe that there is any set number of encounters that defines the final relationship. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:39:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWn011898 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630F81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:45:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 406509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:45:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHjJE7006193 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:45:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so782436nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.118.11 with SMTP id q11mr740436nzc; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:45:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=uW3LosGdvdVXEoSqqCjdk8rG10joo6CeHgNT9UIp7tCMyFLtIoaYLDMVWca4hb0sywSpNLjpRgN1aa2I2m44dFHj0XPLm5i/ra/M6FOBaXrHU9CqdPqKbdGRNiaaY7zR0mpvRc3Aog73zfJaHeMM3qTQbOthPyD+TqmfdPggQJY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051210451d46d482@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:45:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050512102464517756@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CIdBWn011898 On 5/12/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > The hardest test for Nanook will be when he leaves his own yard. In my > experience, cats seem to be sensitive to turf. Once a cat is on another > cat's turf, that other cat will feel defensive, will challenge, and fight. > If Nanook does make friends with Oliver, than Oliver's siblings will be > more > likely to accept Nanook. > These aren't siblings--none of these cats are related, that I know of. They just live in the same house. Two of them have different spots on my lawn that they particularly like; it will be interesting to see if Nanook forces them off. Burl didn't leave the property much, if at all. It will be interesting to see if Nanook is the same. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:39:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWn011897 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630FBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:52:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 407163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:52:07 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHq5WU007313 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:52:06 -0400 Received: from [192.168.5.152] ([192.168.5.152]) (authenticated bits=0) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4CHq3Yd020131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:52:05 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <8865866a050512035114d5b7cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <8865866a050512035114d5b7cf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <235df343a4cbcc98abaf322fe95fe722@multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: stevie Subject: Re: Taipei, day 4 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 19:51:59 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 12 May 2005, at 12:51, Marcia Franzen wrote: > When we found the address on Wuchang Street, it was not > a vegetarian restaurant but it had been and the restaurant had moved > two blocks away. So we set off again and didn't find the place. We > were not having much luck with this list!! We have had pretty much the same experience when travelling. I like to compare online entries for Amsterdam with what I know is reality, and if I have the time, I'll look at a couple of places online to see which places turn up more than once. I generally like the Rough Guide series, but even if the book is just published I have ended up at addresses which are no longer restaurants. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:40:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWn011896 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00631017@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:01:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 408027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:01:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CI1Et3008299 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:01:14 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so746162wra for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.53.8 with SMTP id b8mr1088135wra; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sPqXQszCT6UBaHMn7GWmK7fX5tAqLfqVkFo0EyGwaMhWEOXAClnJF40ojbwYVYcTVinqZmopawrFhnajGb5Z0xZQxjKhHXGOj6pwfL2dfHo5SlNR+4MsPT85fRhZuQC9qCK/bqMLuXhrF/6NtmJvGCLxGgs5HC5OIuSd6WLz3XE= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:01:13 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051210451d46d482@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050512102464517756@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051210451d46d482@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CIdBWn011896 > > These aren't siblings--none of these cats are related, that I know of. > They > just live in the same house. --Karen That makes them siblings. Not by birth. But by affection. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:40:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWo011890 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00630F81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:11:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 408993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:11:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CIBPYK009834 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:11:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so793772nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.19 with SMTP id a19mr770613nzd; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:11:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bEkV33mK0Vrg7jVaDj4uQXAL97ZRHIhXXotzlVb719FWOKbrSgSMCSNW4krLV+RRCzKa7F5DWYqM7EGRiajVYoXUxhOkwn7SRatQS9A3P7lRx+hd9coUtMH5tsPW798DVas5vBsGtXyakjHW5387BPERwLCCtHGrXtbYN7wl+No= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051211115caa6ee5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:11:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050512102464517756@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051210451d46d482@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CIdBWo011890 On 5/12/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > These aren't siblings--none of these cats are related, that I know of. > > They > > just live in the same house. --Karen > > That makes them siblings. Not by birth. But by affection. > Okay. I just wanted to be explicit. And I do think of them more like Paul's family than like mine. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:40:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWo011898 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:40:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006311B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:30:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 409513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:30:54 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4CIKrmk010883 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:20:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 27007 invoked by uid 1003); 12 May 2005 18:20:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:20:53 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation Message-ID: <20050512182053.GB25076@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 01:11:15PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > It's obvious you've never been a boy. Confrontation and friendship are > not mutually exclusive categories. I predict they will be best buds > once the pissing and hissing are out of the way. Ha! We missed your cheery cynicism! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:39:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWn011893 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00630E65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:25:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 403629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:25:26 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHPQEX002886 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:25:26 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4CHPO7Y004106 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:25:26 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 ([131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4CHNALT009573 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:23:11 -0400 Message-ID: <01bc01c55717$455a0940$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705051210165cbb9e32@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: a lot to say Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:23:09 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" > I get carpal tunnel symptoms just reading this! awww, come on Karen; you're there! On 5/12/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > from sciencedaily.com > > ---------------------------------- > > India man sets phone text record > > LUDHIANA, India, May 11 (UPI) -- A Ludhiana, India, man has been > registered in the Guinness Book of World Records for sending 182,689 > text messages a month, CNET News reported Wednesday. > > Deepak Sharma's total breaks down to about 6,000 messages a day, 253 an > hour, and 4.2 a minute -- or one message every 14 seconds, CNET said. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:40:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWo011897 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:40:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00630FFE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:32:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 410420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:32:53 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CIWqck012370 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:32:52 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:32:52 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:32:43 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Confrontation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you A.A. C.C. >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 5/12/2005 2:20:53 PM >>> Ha! We missed your cheery cynicism! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:40:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWo011896 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:40:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063101B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:38:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 410765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:38:16 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CIcErX012935; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:38:14 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 59198490; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:38:14 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512113734.032b0c50@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:38:13 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: <8865866a05051209392597e3f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:39 PM 5/12/2005 +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: >On 5/12/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > > I watched the people worship in fascination. ... ... While watching the > > > people, I felt a tiny pang of jealousy. I do not and cannot believe > > > in any god but I must admit I am jealous of those who find peace in > > > religion. I need to find that peace of mind without a god. I know it > > > is possible but it ain't easy! > > > > For you to be jealous of a believer is to wish to be duped. Don't go > > there. > >I know there is truth in that statement, which is one of the reasons I >can't believe in a god or a religion. > > > > > >I bought a can of asparagus juice, a thingy that helps you put your > > >hair in a bun (impressed I found it in brown), stainless steel > > >chopsticks (purists are probably cringing at the thought), instant > > >coffee (they weren't generous with refills at breakfast and they had > > >a water cooker in the hotel room), and a bunch of other small items. > > >Fun! Fun! Fun!! > > There is part of your mother in you. Someday you will live in a house > > surrounded by clutter. > >I find that statement truly insulting. But then you don't know my >mother. I go through my shit at least twice a year and every time I >move and get rid of the stuff I haven't used. > >Marcia And I don't think Bonnie truly knows you. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:40:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIdBWo011893 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:39:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:40:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00630FF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:29:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 409446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:29:51 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4CIJn4J010759 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:19:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 26590 invoked by uid 1003); 12 May 2005 18:19:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:19:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 Message-ID: <20050512181948.GA25076@words-l.org> References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> <8865866a05051209392597e3f8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8865866a05051209392597e3f8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 06:39:07PM +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > >I bought a can of asparagus juice, a thingy that helps you put your > > >hair in a bun (impressed I found it in brown), stainless steel > > >chopsticks (purists are probably cringing at the thought), instant > > >coffee (they weren't generous with refills at breakfast and they had > > >a water cooker in the hotel room), and a bunch of other small items. > > >Fun! Fun! Fun!! > > There is part of your mother in you. Someday you will live in a house > > surrounded by clutter. > > I find that statement truly insulting. Great conversation starter, though! Very provocative. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:41:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIfoWm012213 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:41:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:41:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5D534@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:40:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 405974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:40:16 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CHeGWh005436 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:40:16 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so738214wra for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.53.8 with SMTP id b8mr1079125wra; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 10:40:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZykGG2JQs5bWR5Lq+KP5SZ4wIqu9C5nh24sNFHk2CAMuekcxr2PgNYJzX3NskwlF5urprrXQyT+JzKq+FnlaSX9OUmw3r/V2TVNgNZBCoEl7pDCEvA6f3N3hDMO/XRlVY7P1HpHK9eVaBab2hhV4/an+C9Dr35+QAUhHcuEHg2A= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:40:16 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050512102464517756@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050512102464517756@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CIfoWm012213 > > I guess I'll continue bringing him out and watching what happens. I do > appreciate your words of encouragement, and the reminder that there is > always tension. Burl already lived next door, so there was no issue. The > other cats of my experience were indoor cats. > Karen > The hardest test for Nanook will be when he leaves his own yard. In my experience, cats seem to be sensitive to turf. Once a cat is on another cat's turf, that other cat will feel defensive, will challenge, and fight. If Nanook does make friends with Oliver, than Oliver's siblings will be more likely to accept Nanook. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:51:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIpHWm013335 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:51:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:51:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063120F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:51:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 411688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:51:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CIpEDs015232 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:51:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F5D7D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:51:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200505121851.j4CIpEDs015232@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:51:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Confrontation To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/12/2005 1:07:11 PM >>> >On 5/12/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> >> Perhaps you should ask my mother this question. >> >> and I think her answer would likely be some version of "you can't >make >> it easier - he has to do it for himself" >> > >Yeah. As I suspected. I am really rooting for him--I think he can kick > >Oliver's ass. But Oliver is older and wily. > >And he was my favorite of the cats next door, which makes it hard. > >Karen On Thu, 12 May 2005 13:11:15 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >It's obvious you've never been a boy. Confrontation and friendship are >not mutually exclusive categories. I predict they will be best buds >once the pissing and hissing are out of the way. > >BrP > With the greatest love and respect, it's obvious you've never been a girl. clo P&H our specialty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:55:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CItKWm013949 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:55:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:55:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00631060@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:55:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 411842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:55:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CItJmL015721 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:55:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so812122nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.5 with SMTP id t5mr799232nzc; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:55:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cYumaPQYhhWO+RJ+2tKuBhkxkylvo4EiuM0hlj6vYLj5DKGvVxa6i1zdDP9ZCJ0oSPl2iLYRcjlzLt1B2Wk0FhTJ0rgS3ClXH0e7mQM4+FAPu/OQYtwy1ViFsvd9TNCsQ9J01q642s6dQRiisEVBNUpbBtjkR5RjMWwvRkIdplc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050512115539c7e8f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:55:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <200505121851.j4CIpEDs015232@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505121851.j4CIpEDs015232@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CItKWm013949 On 5/12/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >>>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/12/2005 1:07:11 PM >>> > >On 5/12/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> > >> Perhaps you should ask my mother this question. > >> > >> and I think her answer would likely be some version of "you can't > >make > >> it easier - he has to do it for himself" > >> > > > >Yeah. As I suspected. I am really rooting for him--I think he can kick > > > >Oliver's ass. But Oliver is older and wily. > > > >And he was my favorite of the cats next door, which makes it hard. > > > >Karen > > On Thu, 12 May 2005 13:11:15 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >It's obvious you've never been a boy. Confrontation and friendship are > >not mutually exclusive categories. I predict they will be best buds > >once the pissing and hissing are out of the way. > > > >BrP > > > > With the greatest love and respect, it's obvious you've never been > a girl. > clo > P&H our specialty > I guess I've never been a girl, either. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:58:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIwDWm014320 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:58:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:58:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00631230@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:58:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 412156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:58:13 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CIwCSg016351 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:58:12 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 59204109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 11:58:10 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512115721.032d8440@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:58:09 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Karen and Catzingers In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050512115539c7e8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505121851.j4CIpEDs015232@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200505121851.j4CIpEDs015232@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you haven't already, you need to look at steph's kitty photos on Flickr. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 13:58:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CIwGWm014328 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:58:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:58:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00631180@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:58:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 412166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:58:16 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CIwFxQ016367 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:58:16 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:58:15 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:58:02 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Confrontation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU :-) see you in a few minutes >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 5/12/2005 2:51:14 PM >>> With the greatest love and respect, it's obvious you've never been a girl. clo P&H our specialty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 14:04:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CJ4YWm014944 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:04:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:04:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063124F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:04:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 412516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:04:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CJ4X4C017030 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:04:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so843896wri for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.51.45 with SMTP id y45mr1282871wry; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:04:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oSFKEbCq3CRAM62I6xjP4eQmkhBdJilu80J0knuy+K6b4gndN0p/RZ03yB9cDEhAqQqyLCGSg/jNxLt6vrgj0ljEdOCHYYK220+erHsKKL3QP7Snv2b+dxkrbQGWHY+1ks/WTQT2cB9bmhQXSNn5QSURzi3cItbDFoPar/AXcQ8= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:04:32 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A-a-lec! In-Reply-To: <200505121410.j4CEAjhL001134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4282633B.2020806@akad.ee> <200505121410.j4CEAjhL001134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CJ4YWm014944 Oops late from me too. Happy birthday, Alec! Hope you celebrated a little. Marie On 5/12/05, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: English Language Discussion Group > >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Kristin Sarv > >Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:56 PM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: A-a-lec! > > > >Hey, having a cake? Listening to songs from best friends? > > > >I hope you have a good day. Happy Birthday! > > > >Kristin > > > > Thanks. > > > Alec > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 14:07:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CJ70Wm015210 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:07:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:07:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063125E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:07:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 412070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:07:00 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4CIumXH016086 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:56:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 43568 invoked by uid 1003); 12 May 2005 18:56:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:56:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation Message-ID: <20050512185648.GA43389@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU LOL.:) On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 02:32:43PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Thank you A.A. > > C.C. > > >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 5/12/2005 2:20:53 PM >>> > > Ha! We missed your cheery cynicism! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 14:11:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CJB7Wm015718 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:11:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:11:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00631287@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:11:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 413148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:11:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CJB5sf017883 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:11:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so818355nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr820802nzu; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:11:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=p7R+Z4TX55UIS2yZ2zcxNEAZYPqazzVnikhNjBHzr6FCB44v1JUsfF4wY8q8BmWT8YVKJs99FjQ3UVvozeVIVCcMWVokB5yuJG5/VSAaSxyrs57rL5jjb1tXDqhTis7QS6a08XUfPditSlmKQ1eLwmvq3kcR6IpAJXpF/Q+Di98= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051212114099bf19@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:11:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CJB7Wm015718 YaY, Carolyn! On 5/12/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > :-) > > see you in a few minutes > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 5/12/2005 2:51:14 PM >>> > > With the greatest love and respect, it's obvious you've never been > a girl. > clo > P&H our specialty > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 14:19:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CJJkWm017000 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:19:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:19:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00631202@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:19:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 413716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:19:45 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CJJjdc018861 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:19:45 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so779400wra for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.6 with SMTP id x6mr1097154wrc; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=H5XgWPuTnn1W4T2987NeYsgJDZROKsE248YQLMNKG4AGkV+lg/UAAhQh/e+TNYqdh2geGKWAtrEWNulyA3MARdz10psGePYxxfY/0mLeW1IUb5bkM0iPURPG0X9xlBowMHptYQdIVpZ4Lm7Zq+pajWy7QHFtQMK2jLXSVwAZmsg= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:19:44 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512113734.032b0c50@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> <8865866a05051209392597e3f8@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050512113734.032b0c50@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CJJkWm017000 > > >I find that statement truly insulting. But then you don't know my > >mother. I go through my shit at least twice a year and every time I > >move and get rid of the stuff I haven't used. --Marcia > > And I don't think Bonnie truly knows you. > Betty Oh, I think Bonnie truly does. I've even met Marcia's mother. Had a dinner and a breakfast with her. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 14:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CJa6Wm019445 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:36:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:36:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00631301@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:30:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 414904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:30:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CJUAvZ020610 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:30:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so825633nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.118.11 with SMTP id q11mr805108nzc; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:30:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W3IZqI+rR9WrG3PN7qojZSJqp39KwkI+odcgPOAXDajSGpe8K0Wi/xl2U5YFpnFo9yLQUvz0gR3Cf2yeo+/LNQ3wOvFuX25n6GZCKQ6KiZCFy7oEmtpqd0Fy3pLnY+z12sbVB6Btnlk/avqAJLkV5pxLaSK82Wp5PYzjM1SACTI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505121230ac88cca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:30:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <83db447a05051212261ef20ad5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050512102464517756@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051212261ef20ad5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CJa6Wm019445 On 5/12/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > On 5/12/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > Well, yeah (to the last sentence). There's no such thing as a "final > > relationship", unless you're dead. > > I disagree. Cats (and other animals) do arrive at a final---or > stable---relationship. It might always be a bit testy, it might be a > common > acceptance or tolerance, it might be a "let's stay out of each other's > way" > thing. That's what I meant earlier by setting the rules. When Alex (a big, > older, orange male) lived next door, he fairly quickly developed > relationships with our cats. He and Xerxes, after a few standoffs, ended > up > sharing rooftops and even our deck lounge chair. Drusis never got that > chummy (chummy isn't in her cat-relationship vocabulary) but did tolerate > Alex as long as he kept a bit of distance. When we got Sere, he tried to > get > acquainted; she got nervous and hissed---at which point he just looked at > her and then sauntered over to the water dish. Okay. I would like to know who growled today. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 14:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CJa6Wm019443 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:36:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:36:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006312DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:26:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 414323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:26:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CJQ5a6019778 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:26:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so851523wri for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.10 with SMTP id 10mr1282041wrw; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:26:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ivaVWs4W8vxF6ZCtBDK+EHqmSGEaBHWjDK+w0PairGMRHbmZqgErES0vk2nHR+/jjdzgrdbFjuKRV5Tr7c3Kf+/dy/oROl7jFVjTx14tWYLvYzVqglnpEoxC+0YILvPrMViRM1tDWzXa9lhWmhSrTX+F2TP4ro5lgDfPn3G7aJY= Message-ID: <83db447a05051212261ef20ad5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:26:04 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050512102464517756@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050512102464517756@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CJa6Wm019443 On 5/12/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Well, yeah (to the last sentence). There's no such thing as a "final > relationship", unless you're dead. I disagree. Cats (and other animals) do arrive at a final---or stable---relationship. It might always be a bit testy, it might be a common acceptance or tolerance, it might be a "let's stay out of each other's way" thing. That's what I meant earlier by setting the rules. When Alex (a big, older, orange male) lived next door, he fairly quickly developed relationships with our cats. He and Xerxes, after a few standoffs, ended up sharing rooftops and even our deck lounge chair. Drusis never got that chummy (chummy isn't in her cat-relationship vocabulary) but did tolerate Alex as long as he kept a bit of distance. When we got Sere, he tried to get acquainted; she got nervous and hissed---at which point he just looked at her and then sauntered over to the water dish. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 14:45:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CJjYWm020487 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:45:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 14:45:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00631294@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:45:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 416006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:45:34 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CJjXed022792 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:45:33 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2005051219462211300q0r5be>; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:46:22 +0000 Message-Id: <200505121945.j4CJjXed022792@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: A-a-lec! Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:45:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcVXJyU8pyUbW9P3Rcy/7s6uuiMSnQAAJkGQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks to all for the wishes. Alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 15:13:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CKDYWm024626 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:13:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:13:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00631373@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:54:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 416576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:54:30 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CJsSj0023862; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:54:29 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 59219206; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:54:28 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512125359.032ca338@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:54:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A-a-lec! In-Reply-To: <200505121945.j4CJjXed022792@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:45 PM 5/12/2005 -0400, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >Thanks to all for the wishes. > > >Alec What did you do to celebrate, Alec? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 15:13:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CKDYWm024629 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:13:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:13:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00631408@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:06:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 418458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:06:34 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CK6Yh4026111 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:06:34 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2005051220072411200b82lte>; Thu, 12 May 2005 20:07:24 +0000 Message-Id: <200505122006.j4CK6Yh4026111@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: A-a-lec! Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:06:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512125359.032ca338@calmail.berkeley.edu> Thread-Index: AcVXLIkVmcjlaL0sQPaS1h3T7NDB4AAATr2A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Betty Clark >Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:54 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: A-a-lec! > >At 03:45 PM 5/12/2005 -0400, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>Thanks to all for the wishes. >> >> >>Alec > >What did you do to celebrate, Alec? > >Betty > As my dad's birthday is May12th, we are getting together with my dad and step-mom for dinner on Saturday. Alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 15:13:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CKDYWm024625 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:13:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:13:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006312BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:53:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 416521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:53:33 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CJrVuJ023763 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:53:32 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 59218995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 12:53:31 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512125234.00c5dea8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:53:29 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512113734.032b0c50@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> <8865866a05051209392597e3f8@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050512113734.032b0c50@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:19 PM 5/12/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >I find that statement truly insulting. But then you don't know my > > >mother. I go through my shit at least twice a year and every time I > > >move and get rid of the stuff I haven't used. --Marcia > > > > And I don't think Bonnie truly knows you. > > Betty > > >Oh, I think Bonnie truly does. I've even met Marcia's mother. Had a dinner >and a breakfast with her. > > >-- >--bonniev You only know what she chooses to let you know. Did you know she was planning to marry again? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 15:13:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CKDYWm024630 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:13:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:13:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00631424@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:12:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 418916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:12:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CKCGrx027009 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:12:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so840842nzo for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.118.5 with SMTP id q5mr845298nzc; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 13:12:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GE8bzgtE7XwLouUVNjZqiDzUOB+C0zOzmn5l/fchAbtiCKEhBTAxTZVKx32aoavuSLDC+eFr8aaTWyUDTVi78DyXBEFPEiLgpVC+uMS5UafT0K2ovxBmqn0Dn1/rvdQJ6lsic26kSX+ic8YfI7uYeZRkwcopVBwlBoVzJGvRwu8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505121312974cc0a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:12:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A-a-lec! In-Reply-To: <200505122006.j4CK6Yh4026111@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512125359.032ca338@calmail.berkeley.edu> <200505122006.j4CK6Yh4026111@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CKDYWm024630 Happy Brithday to both of you! On 5/12/05, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: English Language Discussion Group > >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Betty Clark > >Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:54 PM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Re: A-a-lec! > > > >At 03:45 PM 5/12/2005 -0400, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >>Thanks to all for the wishes. > >> > >> > >>Alec > > > >What did you do to celebrate, Alec? > > > >Betty > > > > As my dad's birthday is May12th, we are getting together with my dad and > step-mom for dinner on Saturday. > > Alec > > ------------ > Alec D. Plotkin > plotkina@att.net > > "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" > - > Albert Einstein > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 18:09:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CN9VWm015124 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:09:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:09:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006335E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:09:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 469322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:19:35 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4CMJYZH014287 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:19:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 12070 invoked by uid 89); 12 May 2005 22:19:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20050512221934.12069.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: I {heart} SF Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 17:19:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4CMJZZH014289 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU BART from the airport was great because I didn't have any luggage. The reason I didn't have any luggage was that because of a storm in Kansas City yesterday, my luggage had to go from Memphis to Phoenix today -- long story. Anyway, I got off of BART and saw a great sandwich place right outside the door, where I ate a great sandwich and chatting with a woman who offered me a seat at her shady table (the others were sunny). She had been to Mississippi in search of roots -- her grandfather (whom she referred to as "solid black" -- apparently as opposed to her white grandmother -- was originally from Mississippi. Anyway, I then strolled up to the hotel and checked in. Love the hotel except that this computer isn't free. It's $2 for 15 minutes. I went over to Macy's a little while ago and got something to wear tonight because my suitcase may not be here in time. I don't much like what I got -- sort of like a zebra in a jungle. But it beats the wrinkled stuff I've had on since 4 a.m. (2 a.m. this time zone). Now I need to go borrow some scissors from the desk person to cut off the tags on the zebra clothes. The weather is great. Not cold (yet). -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 18:25:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CNP1Wm017549 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:25:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:25:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F605C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:25:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 491092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:35:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CMZEsg016986 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:35:15 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so858893wra for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.133.2 with SMTP id g2mr1205801wrd; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:35:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NOmT1XspxdeVVEZDyHetwMpRxZzOshi5F+YZ7/bHl5CFjDmLew/s0MsmQWiVR2BO6pOnOObY3D2/cgHqrrOOarQfLNJoLIwyT+BGcJXPd2ncClTtFrhFFKc4y2yq9C1oyqjdsAAmXGk+Yqkzw0uWpxraKgpD+AU2hYbv1DHmXs4= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:35:14 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512125234.00c5dea8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> <8865866a05051209392597e3f8@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050512113734.032b0c50@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050512125234.00c5dea8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4CNP1Wm017549 > > You only know what she chooses to let you know. Did you know she was > planning to marry again? --Betty > No. But I don't think knowing someone equates to knowing facts about them. It simply means one has spent enough time with someone to get a fairly clear idea of what they are like. Of course it happens that you think you know someone and then you spend a bit more time with them and realize that you were completely wrong. But this is blown way out of proportion. Of course, I realized that Marcia would be insulted by my saying that a bit of her mother resides in her. But isn't that true of all of us, no matter how hard we might like it not be true? Genetics is strong. And that's all I was saying. Marcia should be wary about getting too acquisitive or she might gradually clutter her house, which is a trait she hated about her mother. We should all strive for detachment from wordly goods. End of sermon. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 18:34:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CNYIWm018665 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:34:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:34:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F60978@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:34:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 497946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:21:35 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CNLZ7i021078 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:21:35 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103421834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:21:34 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050512162129.02658730@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 16:22:18 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: I {heart} SF In-Reply-To: <20050512221934.12069.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <20050512221934.12069.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:19 PM 5/12/2005, you wrote: >BART from the airport was great because I didn't have any luggage. The >reason I didn't have any luggage was that because of a storm in Kansas City >yesterday, my luggage had to go from Memphis to Phoenix today -- long story. >Anyway, I got off of BART and saw a great sandwich place right outside the >door, where I ate a great sandwich and chatting with a woman who offered me >a seat at her shady table (the others were sunny). She had been to >Mississippi in search of roots -- her grandfather (whom she referred to as >"solid black" -- apparently as opposed to her white grandmother -- was >originally from Mississippi. Anyway, I then strolled up to the hotel and >checked in. Love the hotel except that this computer isn't free. It's $2 >for 15 minutes. I went over to Macy's a little while ago and got something >to wear tonight because my suitcase may not be here in time. I don't much >like what I got -- sort of like a zebra in a jungle. But it beats the >wrinkled stuff I've had on since 4 a.m. (2 a.m. this time zone). Now I need >to go borrow some scissors from the desk person to cut off the tags on the >zebra clothes. > >The weather is great. Not cold (yet). >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Should have done carry on for such a short trip. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 18:34:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4CNYIWn018665 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:34:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 18:34:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F60973@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:34:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:24:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4CNOhpk021342 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:24:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so874644wra for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.20 with SMTP id x20mr1236892wrc; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 16:24:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U+fhObm1c5hUU/3SEXjo2DAzRovEeqV5R8X24Gr94+rPHBG7UT8JdWR1yIVxKsp+Q7yBgMI87HdJv79loMy6PQA94RsJh/xLDJ2fzFWbIkze6ImqMOdVL2Qa541i/JNkZ+K9KUPaa4MJ02eO2DXRfv79r0o2gxIrmJYPidlQhQE= Message-ID: <462271950505121624591eb111@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:24:43 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks Phil! In-Reply-To: <8865866a05051200316201ff6d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a05051200316201ff6d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4CNOhpk021344 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/12/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > I got my gmail account going. We'll see if I like it better than my > other webmail. So far so good! Terrific! If you want more or know of someone who even wants to experiment with one (or more) just let me know. Whether they're used or not (or how much) isn't that big a deal to me - I just want people to have an opportunity to get them. Sitting on 200 of them and not making them available would be selfish on my part. Email stored in Gmail can be retrieved via POP from other email software (e.g. Outlook, or any other software capable of pulling in POP) and you can tell it where to route email you receive. The spam filter is pretty good and does improve over time. I don't know if it's Bayesian or not, but it does help significantly. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 19:33:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4D0XSWm024714 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:33:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:33:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00633FA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 12 May 2005 20:33:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 12 May 2005 20:33:27 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4D0NR3h026772 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 20:23:27 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4D0NJDI022539 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 20:23:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 20:23:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: for Natalie and maybe bonniemaev Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jack Reese died last week - his memorial service was this evening. Nancy was in a wheelchair at the service - emphysema, I am told. She did not stay for the reception. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 12 23:29:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4D4TLWm020852 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 23:29:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 23:29:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00634E9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 0:29:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 534027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 00:28:07 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4D4LRpf017629 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 00:21:28 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4D4LQj4007364 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 06:21:26 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505130421.j4D4LQj4007364@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 3 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 12 May 2005 18:35:14 EDT." Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 06:21:26 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bonnie says: >Marcia should be warned about getting too acquisitive or she might >gradually clutter her house, which is a trait she hated about her >mother. May 17 will be the tenth anniversary of Marcia coming to live in Sweden (and the cats' tenth birthday). During these ten years, we've lived in, let's see, one house of our own and five apartments, of varying size. Clutter has come and gone, in response to changing circumstances and changing inclinations. (I still hang on to a couple of old computers now stored in the basement...) Clutter is not a problem, and never will be (except in Dan's case, but that's a different matter). Marcia's occasional fears of "becoming her mother" turn rather on some behavior patterns which she recognizes from her childhood, and which I suspect have very little to do with heredity. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 00:54:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4D5saWm031139 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 00:54:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 00:54:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006354A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 1:54:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 01:54:36 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4D5sZR3026152 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 01:54:35 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so993074wra for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 22:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.53.8 with SMTP id b8mr1428606wra; Thu, 12 May 2005 22:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Thu, 12 May 2005 22:54:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GrIHy9otJDpTJyIU+46/pm/XpK+wbp+od/t1JjO266VKHNYJI0q1l3cnHkRIF89B9wzwRtEiDkA74LvODrHDIdGpr7EGpEY/XURq7s229UCUANFXSPr74lTBaYVC6jKLcdhWPfmKZ+3JetrFV8UGZyqNDQRl/xQDOIYSKqGM0kQ= Message-ID: <46227195050512225462fdbc2d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 00:54:35 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Maters Maters! In-Reply-To: <14884827.20050512003938@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42825776.3000902@maynor.net> <4622719505051112311460249c@mail.gmail.com> <14884827.20050512003938@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4D5sZR3026153 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/12/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/11/2005, 1:31 PM, phil paxton wrote: > > >> around the tomato garden licking their chops. > > pp> Time for a rubber owl and a pie pan attached to a > pp> stick with cord. > > Our library has owls perched on each of the top corners....don't know > if they're plastic or what. But the seagulls and the pigeons and the > ravens just sit on their heads and shit on them, and of course down > the side of the library. What about the aluminum piepan tied with a length of twine? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 02:27:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4D7RIWm008590 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 02:27:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 02:27:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00635553@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 3:27:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 543830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 03:27:18 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4D7RGmA002645 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 03:27:17 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051309253811547 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:25:38 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.33] ([158.39.120.33]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:27:15 +0200 Message-ID: <428456D4.8000108@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:27:16 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Wireless fun or procrastination References: <20050511184125.FHXL7982.mxfep03.bredband.com@mxfep03> <5.2.1.1.2.20050512113734.032b0c50@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050512113734.032b0c50@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2005 07:27:15.0865 (UTC) FILETIME=[30158890:01C5578D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My final exam this semester is in the form of homework: on Wednesday I am supposed to deliver some small essays and a commented translation of one of Callimachus' poems. So yesterday I went off and spent a couple of hours first with finding parts for our car - it has to pass its biannual EU-imposed control - and then I went to the computers & electronics store to get ink for the Deskjet. And ended up with: a charger and rechargable AA batteries for the VHF radio transmitter, some cables and stuff to fix some connections between the vodeoplayer, the amplifier and the loudspeakers (this has been waiting for a couple of years) and finally I bought the wireless router for our broadband conection which I have wished for for two years. And when I got the router up and running I discovered that there were at least 6 other wireless routers active in my neighbourhood. And two of them were set up with a "default" as SSID and no WEP-authentication which means that they are run just as they are taken out of the box. So in theory I could have linked on to one of those routers if they had been running all the time. But it seems that they are turned off most of the time and only started when people are home from work in the evening. But now, back to work with Callimachus and the bath of Athena. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 03:52:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4D8qcWm018153 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 03:52:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 03:52:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006357EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 4:52:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 548049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 04:52:38 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4D8qaVa008260 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 04:52:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1099272wri for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 01:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.24.31 with SMTP id 31mr1683813wrx; Fri, 13 May 2005 01:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 01:51:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=eFkjk+7LEBjImvFTitK8GUipuypZB5OhfOlA9Fvmk8VWFVOdMtt9bR4mas9ChMR8RGGbz64M4rxWTGmEJrsdDz6g5j/DlVx+163ZpI3NQArzD5gDF9H+TJPw/gEwz7DC+zI8HlvLwacTQsIeRa3hg/7ewTswi2gNTL7MFPoLR58= Message-ID: <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:51:42 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: Vicki , Torkel , Mom , Gisela , English Language Discussion Group , Doug , Dan , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ann_St=E5lhammar?= Subject: Taipei, day 5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4D8qbVa008261 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Man, my ass was dragging when we ate breakfast. I don't think I was really awake when I sipped my coffee and shoveled scrambled eggs into my mouth. I did something I almost never do - I crawled back to bed. Dan promised to wake me up. Ha! That is like asking the fox to guard the chicken coop! We woke up at 13:00, hungry and confused. We had planned to go to Hell Valley but by the time I was showered and alive again, it was 14:30. We ended up at Pizza Hut where we ate a vegetarian pizza that was The toppings weren't the same as the Western version. This one had green peas, corn and pineapple on it. They are really big on peas in both Thailand and Taiwan. Since today was a relatively uneventful day (went up in the skyscraper Taipei 101, wandered about and visited the electronics market), I'll babble a bit about Taipei as a city. It has a population of about 3 million and is definitely not a tourist city. One was hard pressed to find postcards and typical tourist junk. Yippee! However, I wouldn't have minded a few more signs in English on the restaurants. Getting around is fairly easy. The subway is user-friendly and the taxis are cheap. However, taxi drivers don't know English so it is good to have where you are going written down in Chinese. The drivers seem very honest, too. Mopeds abound and you have to pay attention to where you are walking because they use the sidewalks, too. It isn't as wild as Bangkok, though! The same goes for crossing the street. Don't step out right when you get the green light or you are likely to be hit by a moped or car that went through a red light! Speaking of crossing the street, the "Walk/Don't walk" sign is really comical here. There is a little green man of diodes and he gives the illusion of walking. When the light first is green, he walks really slowly and then as time starts to run out (which you can see on a little countdown sign above the "little green man" sign), he walks faster and then starts to run. The funny thing about this is that he is a hunchback with Krusty the Clown feet so it always made me chuckle. Ok, you had to be there! Never mind! Taiwanese people carry umbrellas as part of their standard outdoor gear, along with a washcloth in their pockets. All the stores have umbrella stands outside and some even have long, narrow plastic bags you can put over your umbrella so it won't drip on the store floor. Good idea! They use their umbrellas not only when it rains but also to shade themselves from the sun, even when the sun isn't out. I like that idea and maybe will do that more often myself. I'm really not into wrinkles and skin cancer. Proud to be pasty! Time for dinner. This time we decided to pick a restaurant from the list and ask Reception to call first and see if they exist, how late they are open, and to write down the name in Chinese so we could take a cab. That worked but the receptionist recommended instead a restaurant that was only two blocks away from the hotel. I had seen the sign but thought is was an ad because I couldn't see where you went in. It was down some stairs and there you came to that beautiful waterfall and koi pond. The restaurant was a family buffet place and they were very accomodating and one of the gentlemen took us around and pointed out everything. Suddenly, I looked up and realized we were being watched by the whole restaurant. I felt like a monkey in a cage! The little ones were pointing and obviously asking their parents about us. The food was pretty good but I have to admit the pizza earlier in the day was very filling and I wasn't starved. Another gentleman who worked there kept bringing us food as well. He didn't know any English but seemed so thrilled to have us as guests. After we had eaten, I went out to look at the fish. When I went back into the restaurant to ask if they had any fish food, I noticed the sign said they were open until 8 pm. We didn't get there until 8:30 but they let us eat anyway. The restaurants are really not open late at all! The man who didn't know English, once he understood what I wanted, gave me handfulls of fish food, even though it cost 10 Taiwanese dollars a bag (not very much). So I had a ball feeding the koi. They were used to these big things at the edge of their pond feeding them so they came jetting across the water at the sight of me. I even touched a few of them. Dan took pictures and also fed them a little. Tomorrow is our last day and we are going to get up early to make it to Hell Valley! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 07:51:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DCpQWm017551 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:51:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:51:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F62794@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 8:51:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 556329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:51:26 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DCpQRW019283 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:51:26 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103596259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 05:51:25 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050513055128.02e40eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 05:52:05 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 In-Reply-To: <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> References: <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia, these have been fun to read. Looking forward to more photos. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 09:09:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DE96Wm027106 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:09:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:09:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F62D8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:09:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 568414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:09:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DE95CY032622 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:09:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1206264wri for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.24.31 with SMTP id 31mr1846453wrx; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:09:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=d+EORYzX1evLbA9IIszYmI32+ilwwlgTDR01arVGC/a/N5nLQUMYA11cn3jaue4KZq8dCgPVvAlYcV1WTgDNOLfSEJ/DGI94XjUD42yfeh1R5xKFke+srD3Un3J30joFBxdkpYub2AepWn1JuxvHW+lpxOf7zoOA0aZyK1bHOIQ= Message-ID: <8865866a05051307096e6d0658@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:09:04 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050513055128.02e40eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050513055128.02e40eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4DE95CY032623 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/13/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > Marcia, these have been fun to read. Looking forward to more photos. > > Betty > Glad you've enjoyed them. There is one day left. I don't have any more pictures from this trip but I leave for England to go hiking with Dan on May 29 so more reports and pictures will be forthcoming. I'm also planning on revamping my photosite because I bought the upgrade and both Dan and Torkel will be gradually adding albums to the site. Marcia From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 09:43:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DEhdWm031645 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:43:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:43:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636325@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:43:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:43:34 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DEhXGv032234 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:43:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1222122wri for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.17 with SMTP id o17mr1864275wrc; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:43:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mpqnJRdP/lt1KZbbLTud7i+9GL5VZ4BOBEgTcTZCjaOWwp95dmGP6uQM6jD+KedayrZYRXGBb8yHAHNty/WSHYUndxGe0Ft9xRDb3dPWVJjjso027AZY7RV4EGQ5HD5hod9MbuWv+NTP+403oZiBnpbrSRWE3lbAll/Fgu4gpek= Message-ID: <8865866a05051307436747a80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:43:25 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: Vicki , Torkel , Mom , Gisela , English Language Discussion Group , Doug , Dan , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ann_St=E5lhammar?= Subject: Taipei, day 6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4DEhXGv032235 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Last day! We did get up early and I must have slept wrong because I was in pain and I couldn't turn my head. Ouch! We made it out to the hot springs in Beitou. There was a hot springs museum that was pretty interesting and it explained that the Japanese were the ones who built up the hot springs area. We got to Hell Valley, where there were lots of warning signs not to dip your toes into the water because it was hot! I don't think those signs were necessary. The steam rose from the water and the water bubbled menacingly at us. To my surprise there was a little temple there. I just had to light two incense sticks, one for me and one for Torkel (Dan isn't interested in such nonsense). I even kneeled, as you can see from the pictures. I'm not religious but Torkel and I always light a candle in Klara church in Stockholm so I can light some incense in Taipei. We wanted to stick our feet in the warm water but the one spot where you could,downstream from the spring, was still way too hot. The next spot was max 100 meters further down the road and the water was still warm but....As we were sitting there, enjoying the water running over my feet, a Taiwanese mosquito helped itself to a little of my blood and I had the same reaction to that one as I do all mosquitoes - none whatsoever. We also stumbled over an aboriginal museum in Beitou. I didn't know this but the Chinese are relatively new to Taiwan (late 19th C.) and the big "invasion" was when Chiang Kai-shek brought approximately 950,000 Chinese with him around 1950 after losing the civil war. Nothing in the museum was in English (bummer) but Dan and I enjoyed looking at the maps and traditional clothing, some of which looked a lot like Sami design! I bought a red doo rag with traditional aboriginal design on it in the gift shop. Dan thinks is over the top but Torkel thinks I look "cool." We ate a late lunch/early supper at the same dim sum restaurant that we ate at earlier in the week, changed our clothes and made for the airport. Upon arriving in Bangkok, I just felt like I wanted to go back to Taipei. The place was crawling with overly tan (helstekta) Swedes and Brits (remember my feelings about tourists?), the air conditioning didn't work and my neck wouldn't move. Luckily, the tax-free shops sold Tiger Balm patches. As soon as we got on the plane to Stockholm and took off, I bared my back (showing off my extremely sexy granny bra) and Dan was a true saint and put the patches on my shoulders, making me much more comfortable and I slept through almost the whole flight, a rarity for me. Thank you, Sockertopp! We had to wait a long time in Stockholm for one of my suitcases, long enough so that we began to worry, especially since Benny, my teddy was in the missing one. We got home ok and the first thing I did was go to bed. Nice to crawl into one of your own beds.... The End! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 09:49:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DEnhWm032188 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:49:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:49:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F631DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:39:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:39:42 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DEdgIB031608 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:39:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1220447wri for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.3 with SMTP id o3mr1851210wrc; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:39:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=aFC1DMlzWSDwt5R22I56pB6j4/2OjNCX/gozXHo0uy4EDB4zRBajshFDcjhD2YxmaOZrCZM39hEeoEs9/N+I5mrk2Mx6wT60hSC3vOB4eVZBHk4ooFrF8e5rsy70zkvz7fddiRW4IhmbXQ5n4mDVZta6IUkAZyLCDasAMoYh9GM= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:39:41 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: What do you call? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4DEnhWm032188 Send your answers directly to me as to protect influencing the answers of others. What to you call the brake that sits between the driver and passenger seat in your car? -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 09:52:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DEqKWm032426 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:52:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:52:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F632CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:52:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:52:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4DEgJ2R032073 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:42:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 81964 invoked by uid 1003); 13 May 2005 14:42:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:42:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: No pants day Message-ID: <20050513144217.GA60387@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When cynical, profit-seeking businesses decide to be "weird" in infantile ways, they are no better or worse than you-know-who: From May 18-21, watch for the free spirited Crunch people roaming the streets of Chicago dressed only in their ... um, underwear?! Anyone who gets their pictures taken with these fitness (ahem) buffs will [blah blah blah] waive initiation fee for [...] memberships Whatever ... Go to crunch.com for truly sad pictures of the "New York Event" ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 09:55:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DEt4Wm000060 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:55:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:55:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636445@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:45:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 578096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:45:03 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4DEj2eZ032468 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:45:03 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051316432416363 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 16:43:24 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.33] ([158.39.120.33]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 13 May 2005 16:45:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4284BD6B.8020009@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:44:59 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: HB soon, BB References: <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050513055128.02e40eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8865866a05051307096e6d0658@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a05051307096e6d0658@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2005 14:45:02.0050 (UTC) FILETIME=[57F34C20:01C557CA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As I sat at home, writing a small essay on Callimachus I suddenly heard a brassband marchin down the street outside the window. It was the band from a local school excersising for Tuesday (HB BB) with the kindergarden children who are too young to join the real parade on tuesday so they march the last work day before May 17. And yes, today is the last day before the state licquor stores close until Wednesday since now we are headed for Pentecost. So in principle there is a religious holiday starting tomorrow afternoon and going on until Monday evening, and thyen on Tuesday we are celebrating Betty and the Norwegian constitution. If I manage to get enough work done on my home exam, and the weather holds, we plan to go down the fjord with Agia Anna on Monday and stay overnight anchored up at one of the islands and come back to Oslo in tyhe afternoon on May 17. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 09:55:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DEt4Wm000062 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:55:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:55:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636349@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:46:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 578242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:46:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DEk3G4032616 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:46:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1175655wra for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.18 with SMTP id 18mr1736497wru; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 07:46:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DvX0m+qg35jCEq5SijLW4KrqQG8hnUTS9dmkOMR5HqQfcwxXJiCwYQagMlxgotK+ezt7gcScQ1IbLciYRLrvNw543ei43vKQP9+VQkNJRaj1JRghzInRKw0mngYSGzlx703XQy5J3vkODjzTKhzSGgueXHvAKfaPQN1YVkv5njk= Message-ID: <44dce1c10505130746dd38a9f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:46:03 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Our baby chicks have arrived Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4DEk4G4032617 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU After 25 days of sitting, Henny Penny #1 had 4 chicks when we arrived home yesterday. They were fluffy and stumbling around. One more was poking through, but about 5pm HP#1 shuttled the chicks into the coop abandoning the eggs. As it continued to get cold we realized she wasn't coming back. I set up the dog crate and made a hatchery in the basement. Chick 1 came out about 5:30 with some help and #2 after. They didn't look like they'd make it. But by 9pm fluff was evident. Two lights kept them warm through the night. In the warmth of the later day, I'll try to introduce them to their mom. I don't know if any of the other 7 eggs will hatch. Henny Penny #2 is sitting on about 8 eggs. She has about 1.5 weeks more. HP#3 has disappeared. Since she has been making small absences, I suspect she has a stash someplace. I'm more concerned for her as she is outside the secure area. Pictures can be seen at: http://theresasphotos.fotopic.net/c235663.html The felines were a bit too curious and not to be trusted, so out they went. They will have their kingdom back soon. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:04:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DF4bWm001700 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:04:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:04:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F632B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:54:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 579727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:54:36 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DEsaEw002047 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:54:36 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 931568F44D616 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:54:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c557cb$98373660$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050513055128.02e40eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8865866a05051307096e6d0658@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Taipei, day 5 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:53:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Franzen" To: Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 > On 5/13/05, Betty F Clark wrote: >> Marcia, these have been fun to read. Looking forward to more photos. >> >> Betty >> > > Glad you've enjoyed them. There is one day left. I don't have any more > pictures from this trip but I leave for England to go hiking with Dan > on May 29 so more reports and pictures will be forthcoming. > > I'm also planning on revamping my photosite because I bought the > upgrade and both Dan and Torkel will be gradually adding albums to the > site. > > Marcia I have enjoyed the posts but one thing bothers me. Who is Dan? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:13:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DFDbWm002593 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:13:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:13:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F634ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:13:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 583661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:13:36 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DFDaj2005602 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:13:36 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2005051315142711300q0qh0e>; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:14:27 +0000 Message-Id: <200505131513.j4DFDaj2005602@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Our baby chicks have arrived Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:13:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <44dce1c10505130746dd38a9f@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVXyptGntF9ZlnHQia7eEjWm64yzgAAnN4g Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very cool! ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Terry Wild >Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:46 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Our baby chicks have arrived > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:32:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DFW3Wm004558 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:32:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:32:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636810@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:28:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 587501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:28:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DFSvbi008823 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:28:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1241511wri for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.3 with SMTP id o3mr1874753wrc; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZZGahj9bMxaHqPBW+shlzZ+tEj93Gy1ugozBOrrnJXUf4zjzQNz7yXEDm8FQ+cmsRTqbI2zMHW/YQDICggGTsEP33V9jim3jElALcwra24vrHZXB05ut75+hrzgkj0UPAp/amn/ZNh8yFfFslDxmwWqkk98/W8Kb6Pyh51qR4eg= Message-ID: <8865866a05051308285d962963@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 17:28:57 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 In-Reply-To: <000e01c557cb$98373660$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050513055128.02e40eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8865866a05051307096e6d0658@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c557cb$98373660$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4DFSvbi008827 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/13/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marcia Franzen" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:09 AM > Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 > > > On 5/13/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > >> Marcia, these have been fun to read. Looking forward to more photos. > >> > >> Betty > >> > > > > Glad you've enjoyed them. There is one day left. I don't have any more > > pictures from this trip but I leave for England to go hiking with Dan > > on May 29 so more reports and pictures will be forthcoming. > > > > I'm also planning on revamping my photosite because I bought the > > upgrade and both Dan and Torkel will be gradually adding albums to the > > site. > > > > Marcia > > I have enjoyed the posts but one thing bothers me. > Who is Dan? > > - D. M. > Consult the archives. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:32:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DFW3Wm004557 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:32:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:32:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00636703@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:12:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 583392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:12:00 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DFBxKQ005290 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:12:00 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4DFBx7M020799 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:11:59 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 ([131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4DFALLT018956 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:10:22 -0400 Message-ID: <032e01c557cd$e21fe360$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <44dce1c10505130746dd38a9f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:10:21 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ter, You gonna write to Claudia? Please do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Wild" To: Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: Our baby chicks have arrived > After 25 days of sitting, Henny Penny #1 had 4 chicks when we arrived > home yesterday. They were fluffy and stumbling around. One more was > poking through, but about 5pm HP#1 shuttled the chicks into the coop > abandoning the eggs. As it continued to get cold we realized she > wasn't coming back. I set up the dog crate and made a hatchery in the > basement. Chick 1 came out about 5:30 with some help and #2 after. > They didn't look like they'd make it. But by 9pm fluff was evident. > Two lights kept them warm through the night. In the warmth of the > later day, I'll try to introduce them to their mom. I don't know if > any of the other 7 eggs will hatch. > > Henny Penny #2 is sitting on about 8 eggs. She has about 1.5 weeks > more. HP#3 has disappeared. Since she has been making small > absences, I suspect she has a stash someplace. I'm more concerned for > her as she is outside the secure area. > > Pictures can be seen at: http://theresasphotos.fotopic.net/c235663.html > > The felines were a bit too curious and not to be trusted, so out they > went. They will have their kingdom back soon. > > Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:37:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DFawWm005030 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:36:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:37:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636755@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:36:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 587235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:36:58 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DFQwoa008446 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:26:58 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4DFQosW024433 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:26:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:26:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: and now - trip insurance! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have never even considered buying travel insurance before. On this particular trip, I was not interested in cancellation/interruption coverage - jut medical. TravelSmith wanted at least $62 for reasonable coverage - but AAA gave it to me for only $18 (and I have some cancellation/interruption coverage). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:39:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DFdoWm005330 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:39:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:39:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063678B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:39:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 588787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:39:50 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DFdnbU010655; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:39:49 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 59474113; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:39:49 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050513083029.00bd2c38@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 08:39:48 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: HB soon, BB In-Reply-To: <4284BD6B.8020009@gmail.com> References: <8865866a05051307096e6d0658@mail.gmail.com> <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050513055128.02e40eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8865866a05051307096e6d0658@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:44 PM 5/13/2005 +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: >As I sat at home, writing a small essay on Callimachus I suddenly heard >a brassband marchin down the street outside the window. It was the band >from a local school excersising for Tuesday (HB BB) with the >kindergarden children who are too young to join the real parade on >tuesday so they march the last work day before May 17. And yes, today is >the last day before the state licquor stores close until Wednesday since >now we are headed for Pentecost. So in principle there is a religious >holiday starting tomorrow afternoon and going on until Monday evening, >and thyen on Tuesday we are celebrating Betty and the Norwegian >constitution. If I manage to get enough work done on my home exam, and >the weather holds, we plan to go down the fjord with Agia Anna on Monday >and stay overnight anchored up at one of the islands and come back to >Oslo in tyhe afternoon on May 17. > >Espen Cheers, Espen and thank you. Have a wonderful time and good luck on your home exam. I love how you can remember my birthday each year. It looks like the flowers the Wilds sent me are going to hold up, too, for the party tomorrow. We're ready! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:42:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DFfqWm005585 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:41:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:42:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006368A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:41:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 589057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:41:51 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DFfp3Y011081 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:41:51 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2005051315424211100osatfe>; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:42:42 +0000 Message-Id: <200505131541.j4DFfp3Y011081@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Taipei, day 5 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:41:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVX0Jl/LwHpMQpOT7uvRL/f6IPJCwAAX+fg In-Reply-To: <8865866a05051308285d962963@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris, Dan is Marcia's other significant other. Torkel is sharing her with Dan. Alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcia Franzen >Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:29 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 > >On 5/13/05, Doris Markland wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marcia Franzen" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:09 AM >> Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 >> >> > On 5/13/05, Betty F Clark wrote: >> >> Marcia, these have been fun to read. Looking forward to >more photos. >> >> >> >> Betty >> >> >> > >> > Glad you've enjoyed them. There is one day left. I don't >have any more >> > pictures from this trip but I leave for England to go >hiking with Dan >> > on May 29 so more reports and pictures will be forthcoming. >> > >> > I'm also planning on revamping my photosite because I bought the >> > upgrade and both Dan and Torkel will be gradually adding >albums to the >> > site. >> > >> > Marcia >> >> I have enjoyed the posts but one thing bothers me. >> Who is Dan? >> >> - D. M. >> > >Consult the archives. > >Marcia > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:50:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DFogWm006850 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:50:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:50:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006367F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:50:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 590036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:50:41 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DFofvd012493 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:50:41 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1203318wra for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.160.8 with SMTP id i8mr1750741wre; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:50:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r54amkfzj3jlicgupWq03Vi0p6hTbFapJ+vWfdZ3nl8ughg44ns6eePAngFNbD8dw78wRP0/Lk1PNqqfySr0UFIR01gV0/O4VAUbsMOYzoIe3NXGX7bQLViVycHg9KtprCwryiTRNsn3XvOf0eCOR57Bo2DNECyoSk7/XFKYXYw= Message-ID: <44dce1c105051308507a2e7b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:50:41 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived In-Reply-To: <200505131513.j4DFDaj2005602@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <44dce1c10505130746dd38a9f@mail.gmail.com> <200505131513.j4DFDaj2005602@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4DFofvd012494 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, Happy Birthday! On 5/13/05, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > Very cool! > > ------------ > Alec D. Plotkin > plotkina@att.net > > "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - > Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:53:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DFrNWm007104 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:53:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:53:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636909@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:53:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 590164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:53:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DFrMon012725 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:53:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1204550wra for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.40 with SMTP id e40mr1749483wra; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:53:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YckhUBk0rQpMef3MJ1yuriGov1UsQICntyCu0jPGh95HQLndkMh32R+Ow0qzQ3ha2LnK+V4IlAHd2qBXmX1I+D4COdNZDmFTHu8Ayw12IJxTlV9YHTGlLneaBGob6WEW9Zg7PwQSYaIfJEuDjONXXdNfvQ4ZrA8shTnYz8xQqtM= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050513085367b5a34a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:53:21 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived In-Reply-To: <032e01c557cd$e21fe360$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <44dce1c10505130746dd38a9f@mail.gmail.com> <032e01c557cd$e21fe360$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4DFrMon012726 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/13/05, Alan Wild wrote: > Ter, You gonna write to Claudia? Please do. > Done From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:55:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DFtFWm007352 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:55:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:55:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636912@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:55:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 590257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:55:15 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DFtEQg012882 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:55:15 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 59478835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:55:14 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050513085432.00c2ad88@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 08:55:13 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived In-Reply-To: <44dce1c10505130746dd38a9f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What fun! Your children are really lucky to see all this. I'm glad 'Al didn't hurt anything. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 10:58:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DFwMWm007617 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:58:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:58:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006369DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:58:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 590558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:58:22 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DFwLWl013418 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:58:21 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-237.gwi.net [216.195.163.237]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4DFwF0o094958; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:58:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050513105315.01bf1048@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:01:03 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: HB soon, BB In-Reply-To: <4284BD6B.8020009@gmail.com> References: <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050513055128.02e40eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8865866a05051307096e6d0658@mail.gmail.com> <4284BD6B.8020009@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:44 AM 5/13/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >If I manage to get enough work done on my home exam, and >the weather holds, we plan to go down the fjord with Agia Anna on Monday >and stay overnight anchored up at one of the islands and come back to >Oslo in the afternoon on May 17. As we steamed into Kristiansund, it was obvious that people were decorating for the celebration. By the way, last autumn I wrote about, and photographed, the lovely old building facade on the Kristiansund waterfront that they obviously were trying to preserve as they tore down the rest of the building. Well, they have succeeded; the old facade is now mostly incorporated into the new building (still under construction). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:06:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DG6OWm008735 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:06:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:06:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00636A09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:06:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 591121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:06:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DG6Nqm014585 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:06:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1210655wra for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.8.20 with SMTP id 20mr1764267wrh; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:06:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Rcy1x6G0BNan1GYwzA0BCdW+iERF8qQJwp5RnR3oWrDc4L8xFgSjz6u4E/5/9Q3PRkfQuf6r1UlcRgG3FjvMQvadDyOPWTt1fx+V478l7ZLUkJQ5DIJggnP/7FdsUbQu5AxgRmkzJXF6OIp1z0PfnzTtGStMSpKZQpenkmj9Y14= Message-ID: <44dce1c105051309065f34d94f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:06:23 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050513085432.00c2ad88@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <44dce1c10505130746dd38a9f@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050513085432.00c2ad88@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4DG6Nqm014586 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/13/05, Betty Clark wrote: > What fun! Your children are really lucky to see all this. I'm glad 'Al > didn't hurt anything. > > Betty > He was incredibly supportive in providing security for the new family. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:34:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGYiWm011364 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:34:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:34:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F63A6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:34:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 594634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:34:44 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGYd3U018412 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:34:39 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F63A80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:34:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200505131634.j4DGYd3U018412@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:34:38 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 13 May 2005 10:46:03 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: >After 25 days of sitting, Henny Penny #1 had 4 chicks when we arrived >home yesterday. They were fluffy and stumbling around. One more was >poking through, but about 5pm HP#1 shuttled the chicks into the coop >abandoning the eggs. As it continued to get cold we realized she >wasn't coming back. I set up the dog crate and made a hatchery in the >basement. Chick 1 came out about 5:30 with some help and #2 after. >They didn't look like they'd make it. But by 9pm fluff was evident. >Two lights kept them warm through the night. In the warmth of the >later day, I'll try to introduce them to their mom. I don't know if >any of the other 7 eggs will hatch. > >Henny Penny #2 is sitting on about 8 eggs. She has about 1.5 weeks >more. HP#3 has disappeared. Since she has been making small >absences, I suspect she has a stash someplace. I'm more concerned for >her as she is outside the secure area. > >Pictures can be seen at: http://theresasphotos.fotopic.net/c235663.html > >The felines were a bit too curious and not to be trusted, so out they >went. They will have their kingdom back soon. > >Terry Please keep us posted on the fate of HP3! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:37:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGbdWm011563 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:37:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:37:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636A13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:37:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 595869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:37:38 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGbcu2019240 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:37:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19724541 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:38:00 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:37:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:37:41 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <59518814.20050513103741@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: convenience In-Reply-To: References: <427CB529.6050304@maynor.net> <20050507140148.GA8992@yoccoz.multinix.com> <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> <427FDEEB.9070807@maynor.net> <13510409364.20050510013511@gailndan.com> <42809AB3.4090505@maynor.net> <9110270971.20050512004347@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=67503, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 8:14 AM, bonniemaev wrote: b> By the time we go back to Norway, if ever, I would b> have forgotten about b> where I put it. Guess I misunderstood. Thought you were planning yet another cruise up there in the fjords, etc. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:40:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGdxWm011833 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:40:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:40:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636A29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:39:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:39:54 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGds6E019515 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:39:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19724784 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:40:16 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:40:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:40:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1726321545.20050513104001@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: CRAP!! In-Reply-To: References: <4282A24E.3060409@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=67505, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 8:17 AM, bonniemaev wrote: b> Because it b> isn't TIVO, it did miss the Survivor that was b> postponed an hour because of b> the Presidential press conference. We have our Dish Network HD DVR, but it also is not a TiVo. However, we still have the TiVo set to record the things we REALLY want to not miss (WestWing, 24, The Shield, etc.) so it serves as a backup on that kind of thing. Most of the stuff on the TiVo is deleted unseen, since have already seen it on the HDTV and its DVR....but it has served us well, and continues to...now over 3 years old, and very happy we bought the lifetime service rather than the month to month. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:41:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGfnWm012162 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:41:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:41:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636B40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:41:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:41:49 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGfmHo019727 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:41:49 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19562767 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:45:30 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:42:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:41:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <905868877.20050513104156@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051207394767e7d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505102325dc27780@mail.gmail.com> <1054644787.20050511005755@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051104254dac6e92@mail.gmail.com> <232689376.20050511070334@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505110612241e2ef4@mail.gmail.com> <1294953645.20050512000330@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051207394767e7d1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 196, in=81146, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 8:39 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> But it would never occur to me to buy stolen hockey AFoA> equipment. Yea, me either. Or even unstolen hockey equipment. One of the guys that works for me is into serious hockey, plays twelve months a year, except for when he's too beat up to play. Latest was a badly bruised and cracked sternum that kept him out for several months. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:42:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGgmWm012300 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:42:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:42:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636A3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:42:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:42:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGglau019867 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:42:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1272503wri for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.76.2 with SMTP id y2mr1921537wra; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:42:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=H88avF2Lk/GOue/6UEvRPb2PXX7C55qIREn4/lirL1NxWPK3AdpluJX6lOt6jEN0cODC4tJ78kc6E5qqlWJADEpQ106KtgXiB9VHBDzr8oj9W5dACcv4jARiQLbsOoFC5UzKNNUUS6aodve1IM9NQolD4ma9JfflABhILuTaHjo= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:42:47 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived In-Reply-To: <44dce1c10505130746dd38a9f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <44dce1c10505130746dd38a9f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4DGgmWm012300 Wow, nice pics of the little fuzzballs. Congrats! -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:43:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGhcWm012405 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:43:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:43:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636A43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:43:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:43:38 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGhbkS020095 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:43:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19746325 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:14:18 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:43:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:43:45 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <321292922.20050513104345@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: contract language In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051207456e218890@mail.gmail.com> References: <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <428259B9.2010508@akad.ee> <16610686540.20050512003546@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051207456e218890@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=70521, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 8:45 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> You need to read more. AFoA> http://www.nclnet.org/debitbro.htm#whatif says: AFoA> "Government regulations require debit card issuers AFoA> to set a maximum AFoA> liability of $50 if the debit card is reported lost AFoA> or stolen within two AFoA> days of discovery.." Well, I've heard of a number of recent ones where the banks haven't complied. Apparently there are lots of versions of what "reported" means, such as whether it has to be in writing, notarized, police report, etc, etc. It seems the banks get to set their own rules on what it takes to report. And the one time I had a Visa number stolen, I had to send in a snail mail report to backup the phone call...this was about three years ago. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:44:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGisWm012526 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:44:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:44:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636A4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:44:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:44:54 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGirAH020279 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:44:53 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19746564 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:15:34 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:45:13 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:45:00 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1116066457.20050513104500@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Taiwan In-Reply-To: <200505121512.j4CFChB1014040@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505121512.j4CFChB1014040@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=70524, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 9:12 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>No secrets here. If you want details about such, >>ask. If not, don't. >>But there's nothing I won't tell you. CO> Where's a cluex4 when you need one? Oh, I knew WTF you meant....thus didn't disclose any stuff that is TMI. I'll probably report a detailed description of my surgery on the 23rd, so be prepared to delete stuff. Shortly off to scenic Winnemucca for AutoCross weekend. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:48:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGmCWm012995 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:48:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:48:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636A58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:48:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 596754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:48:11 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGmBuD020892 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:48:11 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19747073 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:18:52 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:48:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:48:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <519526581.20050513104819@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a lot to say In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=70525, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 11:14 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> LUDHIANA, India, May 11 (UPI) -- A Ludhiana, India, PB> man has been PB> registered in the Guinness Book of World Records for PB> sending 182,689 PB> text messages a month, CNET News reported Wednesday. He'd do fine here. He might even be able to set a record for most msgs in an hour or day or something on words-l. But maybe not. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:51:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGplWm013407 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:51:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:51:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636A6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:51:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:51:47 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGpkaj021366 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:51:46 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19726717 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:52:08 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:52:07 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:51:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1326797771.20050513105154@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I {heart} SF In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050512162129.02658730@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <20050512221934.12069.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050512162129.02658730@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=67515, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 5:22 PM, Betty F Clark wrote: >>The weather is great. Not cold (yet). >>-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) BFC> Should have done carry on for such a short trip. And even for a long trip, say a couple weeks, I stuff some clean underwear in my laptop bag, as well as toothbrush and contact lens stuff. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:53:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGqtWm013567 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:52:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:53:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F63B60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:52:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:52:55 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGqsQM021461 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:52:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19726937 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:53:16 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:53:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:53:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1926821604.20050513105302@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Thanks Phil! In-Reply-To: <462271950505121624591eb111@mail.gmail.com> References: <8865866a05051200316201ff6d@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505121624591eb111@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=67516, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And I'm hoping to see my gmail info soon, too. If you sent it, it must have gone in the spam shitcan or something. Could also send it to dlester@boisestate.edu which has a less picky filter. 5/12/2005, 5:24 PM, phil paxton wrote: pp> On 5/12/05, Marcia Franzen pp> wrote: >> I got my gmail account going. We'll see if I >> like it better than my >> other webmail. So far so good! pp> Terrific! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:57:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGvVWm014244 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:57:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:57:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00636C4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:57:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:57:31 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGvVmD021920 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:57:31 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 19727796 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:57:53 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:57:51 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:57:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <949117019.20050513105738@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Taipei, day 5 In-Reply-To: <000e01c557cb$98373660$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050513055128.02e40eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8865866a05051307096e6d0658@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c557cb$98373660$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 194, in=67519, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/13/2005, 8:53 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> I have enjoyed the posts but one thing bothers me. DM> Who is Dan? Guess you've missed out on her other husband. And no, it isn't me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:59:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGwvWm014450 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:58:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:59:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636BA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:58:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:58:56 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGwuTn022035 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:58:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19749137 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:29:37 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:59:16 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:59:04 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <627607705.20050513105904@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: What do you call? In-Reply-To: <128140468.20050513105624@gailndan.com> References: <128140468.20050513105624@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=70537, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/13/2005, 10:56 AM, Dan Lester wrote: DL> But in some cars the location is different than DL> between the seats, so DL> had to presume what you were referring to. In the DL> corvette it is in DL> that location, in the camry it isn't. Sorry, sent it to both private and list by mistake....oh well.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 11:59:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DGwvWm014452 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:58:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:59:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636A9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:58:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:58:56 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGwuTp022035 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:58:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 19748100 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:24:41 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:54:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:54:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <829856599.20050513105408@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Maters Maters! In-Reply-To: <46227195050512225462fdbc2d@mail.gmail.com> References: <42825776.3000902@maynor.net> <4622719505051112311460249c@mail.gmail.com> <14884827.20050512003938@gailndan.com> <46227195050512225462fdbc2d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 192, in=70531, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/12/2005, 11:54 PM, phil paxton wrote: pp> What about the aluminum piepan tied with a length of pp> twine? Not sure that would work too well on the top corners of a four story building. Or that the "campus beauty" folks would approve of it, either. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 12:13:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DHDDWm016576 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:13:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:13:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636C0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:13:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 599085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:13:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DHDDbL024205 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:13:13 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1285227wri for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.31 with SMTP id n31mr1935112wrn; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:13:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=H4wMTIIl3QCbC5658OhbwuFBrAgapJTdORDdNQu+s7bZ5ITputNzhcQtmtq1Y9CWyf8hUNmT9bnFZAXHjyVBnS8TGmgWR/qGWqN53nSfCbaYLWdaOuygbl8S35OBg1MyPGTVbTi5ZtXmTyHqLINDKY7SNxSVe7O2PqDYfLx8UyA= Message-ID: <83db447a050513101329da98e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:13:13 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks Phil! In-Reply-To: <1926821604.20050513105302@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8865866a05051200316201ff6d@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505121624591eb111@mail.gmail.com> <1926821604.20050513105302@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4DHDDWm016576 On 5/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > And I'm hoping to see my gmail info soon, too. > > If you sent it, it must have gone in the spam shitcan or something. > > Could also send it to dlester@boisestate.edu which has a less picky > filter. I just had one sent to the .edu address. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 12:15:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DHFbWm016873 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:15:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:15:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636B12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:15:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 599228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:15:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DHFamR024594 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:15:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1286143wri for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.35 with SMTP id n35mr1935208wrn; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:15:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KF+hlr9UV9Xd80+pR58dIbsTMMvYlsjutfSh+NfAkxsy/c2V5hUHYn40lB+144fQDN7nv++NfUvaLD51pFwWpZbe4CN954+FlArkHp0XRtG0AbXCDXu43lf5VOp1UvICR2t9VIaum3d70wSVg3DzkH8Nf4mJabbHPUc72afxcuA= Message-ID: <83db447a050513101568e5f2d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:15:36 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: convenience In-Reply-To: <59518814.20050513103741@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <18710268715.20050509045840@gailndan.com> <427FDEEB.9070807@maynor.net> <13510409364.20050510013511@gailndan.com> <42809AB3.4090505@maynor.net> <9110270971.20050512004347@gailndan.com> <59518814.20050513103741@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4DHFbWm016873 On 5/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > Guess I misunderstood. Thought you were planning yet another cruise > up there in the fjords, etc. maybe in three years... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 12:16:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DHGHWm016923 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:16:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:16:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F63B7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:56:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 597349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:56:17 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DGuG4Y021817 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:56:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19565013 for multiple; Fri, 13 May 2005 09:59:58 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 13 May 2005 09:56:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:56:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <128140468.20050513105624@gailndan.com> To: Marieber Meeber CC: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: What do you call? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 196, in=81154, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Emergency brake is probably what you're referring to. I know some call it the parking brake, but I don't. But in some cars the location is different than between the seats, so had to presume what you were referring to. In the corvette it is in that location, in the camry it isn't. 5/13/2005, 8:39 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: MM> Send your answers directly to me as to protect influencing the answers of MM> others. MM> What to you call the brake that sits between the driver and passenger seat MM> in your car? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 12:41:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DHfkWm019709 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:41:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:41:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636C74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:41:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 600625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:41:46 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DHfklR027617 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:41:46 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1252062wra for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.54 with SMTP id 54mr1800172wru; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 10:41:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TCsgKQmTz3rYV7dUeCl1pP9xTiy1v+eFJ1DzVsdgYafQ0ALr3LaBnlO3j+lSIK4oG7PZ6ZIM/6tsJsHCrQhl9WBIidcKBh44xxySqRsXu2iAAwwlCqdfX9sGOiQHzjN7VIHK5KK45/3NSWdcAi6CHoU4JWrEjLaLiN20e2psKG8= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050513104118300c73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:41:45 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived In-Reply-To: <200505131634.j4DGYd3U018412@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505131634.j4DGYd3U018412@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4DHfklR027618 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Please keep us posted on the fate of HP3! > clo > Will do. I want to know where she is so we'll have a hen hunt tonight. At lunch I introduced chick1 and chick2 to HP1. She let them come to her and snuggle under with the other chicks. I checked back and the first 4 were out, but 1 and 2 were still under her, so I think all is well. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 12:54:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DHrqWm021218 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:53:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:54:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636CC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:53:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 601648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:53:51 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DHrpTx029102 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:53:51 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B9F7B9E1C7F61 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:53:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c557e4$a2ab1c10$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8865866a050513015127a94522@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050513055128.02e40eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8865866a05051307096e6d0658@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c557cb$98373660$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <949117019.20050513105738@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Taipei, day 5 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:53:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 > 5/13/2005, 8:53 AM, Doris Markland wrote: > > DM> I have enjoyed the posts but one thing bothers me. > DM> Who is Dan? > > Guess you've missed out on her other husband. And no, it isn't me. Hm. That must have been when I was dallying on the beach. And I can't find any postings in archives except those few special categories. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 13:18:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DIIYWm023963 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:18:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:18:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636D96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:18:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 603824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:18:34 -0400 Received: from web60720.mail.yahoo.com (web60720.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.208]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4DIIYUd032337 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:18:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 63835 invoked by uid 60001); 13 May 2005 18:18:33 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60720.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:18:33 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=haGmhNRo1gFg2/JAIFx5hmMOZDAUBgLFBMIN/HZDns9aeyR+AWt6saYV6N90RPl1Qaa52EjFEmWsPSHFUqb8+2zbThfdaBao/2Cpy7l1oZK/ZLrsCus2zQDxF2ZFftjpqDkE9Ns+4/OoK5ETG+6f4YGSikTZ4mjqHYyksPtSj8M= ; Message-ID: <20050513181833.63833.qmail@web60720.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:18:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No pants day To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > From May 18-21, watch for the free spirited Crunch > people roaming > the streets of Chicago dressed only in their ... > um, underwear?! > Anyone who gets their pictures taken with these > fitness (ahem) > buffs will [blah blah blah] waive initiation fee > for [...] > memberships Basket weaving is a meticulous but productive pastime. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 13:23:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DINnWm024363 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:23:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:23:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636CB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:23:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 604386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:23:49 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DINmlM000680 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:23:49 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 93154119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:22:45 -0400 Message-ID: <4284F0B1.5030907@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:23:45 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <428259B9.2010508@akad.ee> <16610686540.20050512003546@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051207456e218890@mail.gmail.com> <321292922.20050513104345@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <321292922.20050513104345@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Well, I've heard of a number of recent ones where the banks haven't >complied. Apparently there are lots of versions of what "reported" >means, such as whether it has to be in writing, notarized, police >report, etc, etc. It seems the banks get to set their own rules on >what it takes to report. And the one time I had a Visa number stolen, >I had to send in a snail mail report to backup the phone call...this >was about three years ago. > > > I had a similar experience at about the same time. My wallet was stolen and it had more credit cards in it than I now carry. Each of the providers had slightly different procedures but all put the charges made by the thief in "dispute with no interest accrual" pending receipt of whatever each of them needed via snail mail. A couple of them only wanted me to fill out an affidavit. Another needed a copy of the police report. I don't recall having to have anything notarized but I could be forgetting that. In every case, all charges were removed from my accounts. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 13:55:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DItpWm027224 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:55:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:55:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636D88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:55:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 606815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:55:50 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DItod6004328 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:55:50 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4DItm7c028233 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:55:50 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 ([131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4DIrpLT013219 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:53:52 -0400 Message-ID: <03f301c557ed$1c3e2e70$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050513085432.00c2ad88@calmail.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:53:52 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Clark" > What fun! Your children are really lucky to see all this. I'm glad 'Al > didn't hurt anything. > > Betty Au contraire. Although I'd spent much of the evening with William and little Eddie... doing some scouting prep work for a camp this weekend, at which William will already be satisfying some of his requirements for 1st Class.... I was instrumental in the direction of the care of the chicks, and not just in kicking the cats out of the basement where the chicks were to spend the overnight, but in hatching out the slower ones. The kids were more than happy to get it done... you know it... and Terry crafted a secure cage for the chicks, adjusting their comforts with a mom's instinct. It was a success. Ter wrote me earlier today and said that the mother hen had accepted the chicks which we had been helping along. My true desire is to tack up a fisher cat pelt to the potting shed door. 'Alan ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 13:57:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DIvIWm027325 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:57:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 13:57:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00636D91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:57:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 606916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:57:18 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DIvHC8004591 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:57:18 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 59533566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 11:57:17 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050513115631.00bdb448@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:57:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived In-Reply-To: <03f301c557ed$1c3e2e70$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050513085432.00c2ad88@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, I know you would care and help. I was kidding. What a fun adventure. Betty At 02:53 PM 5/13/2005 -0400, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty Clark" >>What fun! Your children are really lucky to see all this. I'm glad 'Al >>didn't hurt anything. >> >>Betty > >Au contraire. Although I'd spent much of the evening with William and >little Eddie... doing some scouting prep work for a camp this weekend, at >which William will already be satisfying some of his requirements for 1st >Class.... I was instrumental in the direction of the care of the chicks, >and not just in kicking the cats out of the basement where the chicks were >to spend the overnight, but in hatching out the slower ones. The kids were >more than happy to get it done... you know it... and Terry crafted a secure >cage for the chicks, adjusting their comforts with a mom's instinct. > >It was a success. Ter wrote me earlier today and said that the mother hen >had accepted the chicks which we had been helping along. > >My true desire is to tack up a fisher cat pelt to the potting shed door. > >'Alan ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 14:15:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DJFSWm029545 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:15:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:15:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00636FBF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:15:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 608649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:15:28 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DJFSc1007919 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:15:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F64101@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:15:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200505131915.j4DJFSc1007919@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 15:15:27 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 13 May 2005 12:53:13 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan Lester" >To: >Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:57 AM >Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 > > >> 5/13/2005, 8:53 AM, Doris Markland wrote: >> >> DM> I have enjoyed the posts but one thing bothers me. >> DM> Who is Dan? >> >> Guess you've missed out on her other husband. And no, it isn't me. > >Hm. That must have been when I was dallying >on the beach. > >And I can't find any postings in archives except >those few special categories. Maybe I'm not >looking in the right place. > > - D. M. The subject line is beginning Feb 5, 2005 clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 14:16:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DJGXWm029666 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:16:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:16:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00636F14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:16:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 608735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:16:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DJGWRq008106 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:16:32 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1333204wri for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.13.77 with SMTP id 77mr1979699wrm; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 12:16:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PxcSkGnSqXw/M15hIFmzgoktjEBh4lDiHt+qRcaYF57Mx/lJfsnrN8WCqUcHNb/RooEpZX3EyXSrGNidZnZm6fFrLIxNXcWpxy1fkDa8UD8g8zTjOrHXiPuuQgWfR19EzNSqpXYVXYUJiYWjb1CMVR5IB4nTdWITuD3miELwfPA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:16:32 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 In-Reply-To: <200505131915.j4DJFSc1007919@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505131915.j4DJFSc1007919@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4DJGXWm029666 On 5/13/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > The subject line is > > beginning Feb 5, 2005 > clo > And the picture link is now: http://www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com/RayofSunshine/Chapter4/ -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 14:20:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DJKpWm030308 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:20:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:20:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F640EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:20:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 609000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:20:51 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DJKooq008737 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:20:50 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C49502E711926 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:20:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c557f0$c966c410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505131915.j4DJFSc1007919@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Taipei, day 5 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:20:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >>Hm. That must have been when I was dallying >>on the beach. >> >>And I can't find any postings in archives except >>those few special categories. Maybe I'm not >>looking in the right place. >> >> - D. M. > > The subject line is > > beginning Feb 5, 2005 > clo I went to words-l.org and found nothing but old postings from the 90's. Is there another place for more recent ones? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 14:24:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DJORWm030860 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:24:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:24:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00637001@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:24:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 609345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:24:27 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DJORTu009164 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:24:27 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 539562462D302 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000d01c557f1$4a87b630$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505131915.j4DJFSc1007919@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Taipei, day 5 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:23:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marieber Meeber" To: Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 On 5/13/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > The subject line is > > beginning Feb 5, 2005 > clo> And the picture link is now: http://www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com/RayofSunshine/Chapter4/ -- Marie marieber@gmail.com Thanks! I think this was when my computer was out of commision for a time. Otherwise, how could I have missed this? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 14:29:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DJT3Wm031524 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:29:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:29:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063702F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:29:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 609802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:29:03 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DJT2HP009701 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:29:02 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F64197@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 15:29:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200505131929.j4DJT2HP009701@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 15:29:02 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Taipei, day 5 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 13 May 2005 14:20:13 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >>> >>>Hm. That must have been when I was dallying >>>on the beach. >>> >>>And I can't find any postings in archives except >>>those few special categories. Maybe I'm not >>>looking in the right place. >>> >>> - D. M. >> >> The subject line is >> >> beginning Feb 5, 2005 >> clo > >I went to words-l.org and found nothing but >old postings from the 90's. Is there another >place for more recent ones? > > - D. M. http://listserv.uga.edu/archives/words-l.html clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 16:13:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DLDbWm010363 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 16:13:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 16:13:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006372AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 17:13:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 17:13:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DLDZJg024504 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 17:13:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1257201nzo for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr1233141nzh; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 14:13:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=AKy/8y2R2GHc1jXfK/DUIxOiyzEBaC+dMOVNtuNOlu5PjUwiccZXzUThNe6CmS07S4zdEPlfBY1XwUkBksZAmqU9OdDQ2EYW0L5GWUJ0bZURbbZY1r41EGbT8irlHjAlHgKgLSArhMWkl0gVxRsfAKmCWONir7OvWLIVjBnkdNE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:13:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Birk website? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4DLDbWm010363 What the place where list Birkenstock mavens buy their shoes? I remember Czarina Rita bought a bunch of shoes there. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 17:44:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4DMhtWm022320 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 17:44:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 17:44:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006375F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 13 May 2005 18:43:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 623543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 18:43:54 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4DMXrvV032099 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 18:33:53 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j4DMXrxa011434 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 13 May 2005 18:33:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 18:33:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200505132233.j4DMXrxa011434@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Birk website? Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What the place where list Birkenstock mavens buy their shoes? I remember=20 > Czarina Rita bought a bunch of shoes there. Karen -- you must have been reading my mind -- just yesterday lost a pair (unless the cobbler can obtain the right leather) due to a broken strap -- after many years of wear ... Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 13 23:39:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4E4d1Wm028053 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 23:39:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 23:39:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00637EC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 0:39:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 649256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:39:01 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4E4d0EQ004300 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:39:00 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103849948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 13 May 2005 21:39:00 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050513212954.02753d50@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 21:39:45 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Elwood and Mary Ann made it! In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wonder if Natalie got her luggage? Did she meet Myles? Will she be wearing her leopard outfit to Pinole? Mary Ann and Elwood look terrific although tired after a long drive. They have retired to their hotel after dropping off gifts from their wine country. Pretty labels and bottles indeed. The plumbing is working and the floors are clean. Let the party begin. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 00:06:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4E56mWm031536 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:06:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:06:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F65486@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 1:06:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 650129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 01:06:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4E56m8h006666 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 01:06:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1451448wra for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 22:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.19 with SMTP id f19mr2111348wrb; Fri, 13 May 2005 22:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 22:06:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fIIOmZ0k/XQ7V2wDNNSNBuGW1AARxjfuDuL/41FT1eMt4JGjsbFQcRVt/hMHHGyqXRvNTcfU/8ea16YtNn5A2DAG37JoVViX2O5eBo+0sm5Tbg5oTh+zN0UWn3Wvndy8UPk38GnNzgH9gtBXfdMG1h4t/L7UXP3590lZ8I476TI= Message-ID: <462271950505132206461e3083@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 00:06:47 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks Phil! In-Reply-To: <83db447a050513101329da98e4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a05051200316201ff6d@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505121624591eb111@mail.gmail.com> <1926821604.20050513105302@gailndan.com> <83db447a050513101329da98e4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4E56m8h006668 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU oh - sorry! I sent you two to make up for the delay. My mind wasn't completely focused all day. I stayed up all night studying for a Meniere's Syndrome test Friday morning. ______________ On 5/13/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 5/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > And I'm hoping to see my gmail info soon, too. > > > > If you sent it, it must have gone in the spam shitcan or something. > > > > Could also send it to dlester@boisestate.edu which has a less picky > > filter. > > I just had one sent to the .edu address. > cwv > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 00:30:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4E5UAWm001837 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:30:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:30:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00637F2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 1:22:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 650303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 01:22:30 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4E5CU31007257 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 01:12:30 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j4E5CUSZ013707 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 14 May 2005 01:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 01:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200505140512.j4E5CUSZ013707@math.umb.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: 2005 Pun-Off Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen, will you go? What: THE 28th ANNUAL O. HENRY PUN-OFF WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS When: MAY 14, 2005 - 11 a.m. - 5 p.m. (SATURDAY!) Where: Brush Square Park, downtown Austin, TX (5th at Neches) Who: Friends of the O. Henry Museum, Inc. / Austin Parks & Recreation Dept. Why: Jest for a wordy cause! Website: www.PunPunPun.com >From reading old routines, it sounds like fun .. Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 00:30:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4E5UAWm001841 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:30:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:30:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00637F29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 1:20:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 650381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 01:20:09 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4E5K8Nl007655 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 01:20:08 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4E5K6j4029909 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:20:07 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505140520.j4E5K6j4029909@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks Phil! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 14 May 2005 00:06:47 CDT." <462271950505132206461e3083@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 07:20:06 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton says: >I stayed up all night studying for a Meniere's Syndrome test Friday morning. Good old Meniere's syndrome! It's a chronic condition, but fortunately, with age it usually becomes more or less negligible. Like the typical victim, I was hit in my early thirties, and for a few years, I had to deal with the more unpleasant effects of the syndrome. Chief among these was the sudden attack of vertigo and nausea. From one moment to the next, I had to take one cautious step at a time to avoid falling down, and on reaching my apartment I collapsed on the couch for maybe ten hours, vomiting in a bucket from time to time. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 02:12:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4E7C4Wm016122 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 02:12:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 02:12:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006380EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 3:02:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 652895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 03:02:17 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4E72Hn9015485 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 03:02:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1476518wra for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.20 with SMTP id x20mr2152816wrc; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2005 00:02:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=am7SEe7cTiE+DVaIuFL2gyvQWoZ0QVSq5za/TA2EM6W0QMs/gRQv72S4oFxyU1RjqkkP2OAGdJuIn3KowwwrPbhdbwjbjEaX9GbtvBVlWM7utg0XDLAI+E+rtSsBLFcfZhfKEfel1NBvFlaa5tvk3ar332LnOf6u8KWZqGVzwws= Message-ID: <46227195050514000275d00667@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 02:02:17 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 2005 Pun-Off In-Reply-To: <200505140512.j4E5CUSZ013707@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505140512.j4E5CUSZ013707@math.umb.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4E72Hn9015486 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paronomasia? Like "Custer wore Arrow shirts" ? My Freshman English teacher used that from the school librarian and I told her I could beat her with an original one. The next day, I came back with this one: A dentistry student was having problems in school and he consulted a friend of the family, who was a retired dentist. When asked for assistance, he replied, "Sure. But it's been some time so I need to brush up." On 5/14/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > Karen, will you go? > > What: THE 28th ANNUAL O. HENRY PUN-OFF WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS > When: MAY 14, 2005 - 11 a.m. - 5 p.m. (SATURDAY!) > Where: Brush Square Park, downtown Austin, TX (5th at Neches) > Who: Friends of the O. Henry Museum, Inc. / Austin Parks & > Recreation Dept. > Why: Jest for a wordy cause! > Website: www.PunPunPun.com > > From reading old routines, it sounds like fun .. > Joan > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 02:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4E7C4Wm016121 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 02:12:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 02:12:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006380E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 2:52:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 652715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 02:51:58 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4E6pwXI014829 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 02:51:58 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1473915wra for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 23:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr2148346wru; Fri, 13 May 2005 23:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Fri, 13 May 2005 23:51:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RddwuCbeIg/lEaRVOwPuN9s/CvNrQrCEVOKH2iPxRVKBCQqFlDjKff2Qq1IG43ilo2iqd3MmqskZ9256zQeAgTJuJsz99loEogQcip3AF1loi87fET7iBJhMaZcS3qy1DWeL1HHAHdnmlpvmtdCyJdA6DoaO9HLOjGTn+5UlwMc= Message-ID: <4622719505051323515a0502de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 01:51:55 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks Phil! In-Reply-To: <200505140520.j4E5K6j4029909@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <462271950505132206461e3083@mail.gmail.com> <200505140520.j4E5K6j4029909@sm.luth.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4E6pwXI014831 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/14/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > Phil Paxton says: > > >I stayed up all night studying for a Meniere's Syndrome test Friday morning. > > Good old Meniere's syndrome! It's a chronic condition, but > fortunately, with age it usually becomes more or less negligible. Like > the typical victim, I was hit in my early thirties, and for a few > years, I had to deal with the more unpleasant effects of the > syndrome. Chief among these was the sudden attack of vertigo and > nausea. From one moment to the next, I had to take one cautious step > at a time to avoid falling down, and on reaching my apartment I > collapsed on the couch for maybe ten hours, vomiting in a bucket from > time to time. After ten years of nonstop pain and severe tinnitus, not much is a big deal - aside from surprise falls. If I had notice it was coming, that would be different. I have let my juggling go by the wayside since the accident because I need to be able to spend time looking up and that requires light to see what I'm looking at. Too much light, trigger higher level pain. Too little light, can't see what I'm juggling. Right now, the vertigo is such that I probably can't juggle three balls (two hands) but before the accident, I was able to toss seven balls (two hands), five balls (one hand) about twenty seconds each, and five balls (two hands) on a rolla bolla (http://tinyurl.com/7ak6t) for a decent period of time. All of that required balance. But as people say when you offer to teach them to juggle, "I'm not coordinated enough." They forget it will teach them balance. And unless you're doing something fancy, fewer than five doesn't really require all that much balance. When there's a marathon of five balls (or more), you can tell who will lose by closing your eyes - the sound of shuffling identifies losers because they are following their pattern - rather than controlling it. You want to shimmy in your hips, not your feet. Not to change the subject, well, actually to do so, but to save starting another message... If anyone knows people who want Microsoft Software - for much, much less than retail, legally, there are a couple of ways to do it: First, there's what's known as the Microsoft Action Pack for $299 https://partner.microsoft.com/global/40009848 Pick an item on the list; e.g. Microsoft Office. You can't buy it for $299 retail. And it's a ten-seat license - install it on ten different machines. And if you don't do anything with databases or programming - that's obviously not an issue because you've already re-couped your savings. There aren't any gotchas to this program|license. Occasionally, they offer coupons. The first time I latched onto this, there was a coupon for $200 off - net price: $99. They send quarterly updates of various discs - new updates of software as it comes out like clockwork. I had a Windows XP Professional disc crack after I'd had it for six months, called support, and they sent a replacement. The other licensing system, known as the "Empower" program and it has some catches: Microsoft has a MSDN membership license. There are free MSDN resources but those aren't related. They're just for anyone who wants to use them. The membership licenses come in a variety of flavors, depending upon what types of software you are intererested in and how much currency you want to manufacture in your basement (http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/subscribers/default.aspx). Here's a chart: http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/subscribers/compare/. In the case of the Business Solutions at the bottom, Microsoft charges on the pain scale: "how much pain can you endure?" The same software, but licensing may cost $5k-$500k. The program provides an MSDN Universal license for $375/year whereas Microsoft charges $2'799. Shopping frugally via froogle.google you can find it for a little under half of that. I don't know of a ballpark figure for all of that software (easily $40k-$50k) so it's a big bargain. Here are the catches: 1) You can only subscribe for two years. 2) You must have a domain|web site when you apply. (Mine still says, "coming soon") 3) After six months, you must announce a product on your web site. 4) After eighteen months, you must announce a product available. There are no descriptions or qualifications regarding what the product has to be. It appears it can be in a broad or vertical market. Why it's only two years is obvious. They're wanting to make it possible for you to get up & running using their software to the point of sustaining yourself[1] and remain with their software. This is no different than Apple or Microsoft donating hardware or software to schools at various levels: how the sapling is bent, so grows the tree. [1] I'm getting rather tired of "achieving traction", "at the end of the day", "exact same", "same exact", "exactly the same" (although there are plenty of examples of the latter three in any number of 60s movies). I'm really tired of people using "goatee", particularly to describe potential criminals when it's actually a Van Dyke. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 02:42:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4E7goWm020224 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 02:42:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 02:42:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006381CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 3:42:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 653390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 03:42:49 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4E7gmrs018042 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 03:42:49 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4E7gk6b032356 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:42:46 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Submit) id j4E7gkNW032354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:42:46 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 09:42:46 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Birk website? Message-ID: <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 04:13:35PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = What the place where list Birkenstock mavens buy their shoes? I remember = Czarina Rita bought a bunch of shoes there. = = Karen This is the place: http://www.jestelkg.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv I also bought some last summer and had trouble with the 'new' stuff. Milano, Boston, Gizeh, no problem. Dorian, Birki sport, they eventually put them in backorder and delivered the rest of the shoes, but getting them to that point was a hassle. They never did respond by email, just did stuff, and the stuff in backorder was never charged and never came. The email forms on their site are at the bottom right. That said, I have also bought from and been very satisfied with http://www.hawea.de/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 03:43:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4E8hkWm027586 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 03:43:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 03:43:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00638208@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 4:43:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 654251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 04:43:46 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4E8hi7b021768 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 04:43:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1532687wri for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 01:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.17 with SMTP id o17mr2322159wrc; Sat, 14 May 2005 01:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2005 01:43:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mi9P6khcHGZp4Y6L2IEILy6Dc0CydAxMjPElabtiRcOB3t9j2/yi6kM+DLCswlux8LSTaXE0uVxYFdVyLI4JoJ8c5ud8VGN57kSTsdfZRz7AyrQ7FKY3ZSS/kp4OXmPIBT5GTwQ/WYaDYU5KGRBXW5332DaXE3t5NL3w40fgcuc= Message-ID: <8865866a050514014357542da5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 10:43:44 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: Vicki , Torkel , Mom , Gisela , English Language Discussion Group , Doug , Dan , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ann_St=E5lhammar?= Subject: Forgot two stories... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4E8hi7b021769 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That is what happens when you rush and don't feel inspired anymore. Story 1). It was the day Dan and I had been to Longshan Temple and shopping at the variety store. I saw that they had grape pop at the store and I just had to buy a can for myself. It brought back such childhood memories (family: think Pio's and Red Hot). Dan was so curious that he bought a can, too and we went to the park nearby the temple, where I proceeded to tell him the childhood stories while we drank our grape pop. The wind was blowing and the breeze felt very good. We were almost done when an older man stood closely in front of us and stared. And STARED, without saying a word. We tried to ignore him for a minute or two but it was impossible. We left and he sat down. We were obviously sitting in "his" place. It was an effective way to get rid of us, lemme tell you. Staring someone down like that is unnerving. Try it sometime! Story 2). Friday night I decided to crack open the asparagus juice. Dan was a little nervous to try it but I thought it was interesting. Dan was talking to Torkel via Skype when I took a sip and......EEEEWWWWW! It was nasty!!! It was so sweet that it was like drinking thick sugar water. I could not taste any asparagus at all. Both Torkel and Dan got a good laugh at my reaction. Dan tried it and actually thought it was ok and he finished the can. Fine by me! Blech! And the answer to the question that is on everyone's minds (at least the Wordslers) is no, you don't get asparagus pee from asparagus juice. Dan gave me a complete report on that account. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 06:36:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EBaOWm021477 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:36:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:36:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F65876@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 7:36:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 658159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:36:23 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EBQNYC023674 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:26:23 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4EBQD9c023465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:26:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 07:26:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: spam header of the day? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU #PLEASE REVERT BACK TO ME ON THIS ISSUE# Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 06:44:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EBi9Wm022252 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:44:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:44:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F65853@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 7:44:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 658416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:44:09 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EBY8CM024189 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:34:08 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4EBXxrH027163 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:33:59 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 07:34:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: party! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: The plumbing is working and the floors are clean. Let the party begin. In an ideal world, I would have written the 3 lectures I have to give in Barcelona weeks ago.I would have met all other obligations, cleaned the floors, checked the plumbing, planned my trip to Spain, packed, etc. - all by a week agao or so. Alas, I am not there yet. I cannot be at the party. Thank you for the invitation, Betty - have a wonderful day! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 06:47:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EBliWm022767 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:47:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 06:47:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F658A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 7:47:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 658790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:47:43 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EBlhUF025081; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:47:43 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 102795073; Sat, 14 May 2005 04:47:42 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050514044731.027a9e20@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 04:48:28 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: party! In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:34 AM 5/14/2005, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Betty: >The plumbing is working and the floors are clean. Let the party begin. > >In an ideal world, I would have written the 3 lectures I have to give in >Barcelona weeks ago.I would have met all other obligations, cleaned the >floors, checked the plumbing, planned my trip to Spain, packed, etc. - all >by a week agao or so. Alas, I am not there yet. I cannot be at the party. > >Thank you for the invitation, Betty - have a wonderful day! > >Bethany And you have a wonderful safe trip. Good luck. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 07:42:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ECgaWm028897 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:42:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 07:42:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F65928@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 8:42:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 659832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 08:42:35 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ECgZc5028477 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 08:42:35 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F65914@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 8:42:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200505141242.j4ECgZc5028477@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 08:42:35 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Elwood and Mary Ann made it! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 13 May 2005 21:39:45 -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: >I wonder if Natalie got her luggage? Did she meet Myles? Will she be >wearing her leopard outfit to Pinole? > >Mary Ann and Elwood look terrific although tired after a long drive. They >have retired to their hotel after dropping off gifts from their wine >country. Pretty labels and bottles indeed. > >The plumbing is working and the floors are clean. Let the party begin. > >Betty Congratulations! Whoop it up extra for me! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 10:13:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EFDIWm015689 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:13:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:13:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F65CC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:13:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 666666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:11:12 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EFBCuB007807 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:11:12 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F65C56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:11:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200505141511.j4EFBCuB007807@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:09:46 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: party! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Edward is hard at work on a big pot-o-chili. We'll see you all this afternoon. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 10:17:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EFHHWm016260 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:17:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:17:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F65E5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:17:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 669154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:16:49 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EFGmwK008313 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:16:48 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103928481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 08:16:48 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050514081704.027b07f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 08:17:33 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: party! In-Reply-To: <200505141511.j4EFBCuB007807@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505141511.j4EFBCuB007807@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:09 AM 5/14/2005, you wrote: >Edward is hard at work on a big pot-o-chili. We'll see you all this afternoon. > >Janet Yea! We've been re-arranging outdoor furniture. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 10:20:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EFJxWm016474 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:20:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:20:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F65EFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:19:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 670032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:19:33 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EFJWvl008689 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:19:33 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103928829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 08:19:32 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050514081754.0267c9c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 08:20:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Elwood and Mary Ann made it! In-Reply-To: <200505141242.j4ECgZc5028477@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505141242.j4ECgZc5028477@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Congratulations! Whoop it up extra for me! >clo Thank you. I'm happy to make it out alive. I got exposed to active TB twice this last semester. (Minimal exposure). I thought they were trying to get rid of me at the end of my career for crying out loud. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 10:40:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EFeAWm018977 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:40:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:40:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F66090@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:40:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 673094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:39:52 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4EFdqRm010507 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:39:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 16730 invoked by uid 89); 14 May 2005 15:39:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20050514153951.16729.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: C'est The Day! Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 10:39:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4EFdqRm010509 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wish the clock would move along rapidly, making it time to head to Pinole! Larry K: Remind me to tell you my funny Find-a-Grave story when I get home and have more e-time. A psycho (who calls himself something like Grave-Addiction) is accusing me of having stolen his picture of my great-grandparents' grave -- he's even convinced the owners of the site to remove my picture. I'm looking forward to getting home to look at mine compared to his to see the differences that will surely be there. The funny part of the story (annoyingly funny) is that when I told him I'd taken that picture in about '99 -- had scanned it from a print since that was before I had a digital camera, he said that I was clearly lying since I hadn't submitted it to Find-a-Grave until after he had submitted his. Iow, he seems to think pictures cannot exist in the world unless they're on Find-a-Grave. I have not been able to convince him that that picture not only existed in '99 or so but that the print still exists in a shoebox in my house. He keeps saying that I'm a LIAR, LIAR, LIAR and that I may be banned forever from Find-a-Grave. It is all too bizarre for words. More later... -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 11:09:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EG9bWm022911 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:09:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:09:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00638FDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:09:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 684953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:09:36 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EG9a3R013210; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:09:36 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103938397; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:09:35 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050514090948.027c4140@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 09:10:20 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: C'est The Day! In-Reply-To: <20050514153951.16729.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <20050514153951.16729.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:39 AM 5/14/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I wish the clock would move along rapidly, making it time to head to Pinole! Come any time! (After I get out of the shower.) Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 11:29:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EGTiWm025690 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:29:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:29:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00639426@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:29:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 692094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:28:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EGSPSY015038 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:28:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1423585nzo for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr1326387nzh; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:28:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PZb7bTGQ0EQQX1NdJckTuXm/TRyTix31MYRLQpCk3JzEaqNf5c80rzP9Nlmbjtv1+sohKM/IlAORpVW60PvaDen+UcmOzWDZHrUb3Z8DENCf870nltnNswlg12vhzjx+D651Hl9J+Kkf5RVJ+WvJ5kFpKWpf2KOHrvFQm8NnJxs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051409283de4f9a6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:28:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Birk website? In-Reply-To: <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4EGTiWm025690 Thanks, Steph. I passed on your comments to my friend. On 5/14/05, steph wrote: > > On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 04:13:35PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = What the place where list Birkenstock mavens buy their shoes? I remember > = Czarina Rita bought a bunch of shoes there. > = > = Karen > > This is the place: http://www.jestelkg.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv > > I also bought some last summer and had trouble with the 'new' stuff. > Milano, Boston, Gizeh, no problem. Dorian, Birki sport, they eventually > put them in backorder and delivered the rest of the shoes, but getting > them to that point was a hassle. They never did respond by email, just > did stuff, and the stuff in backorder was never charged and never came. > The email forms on their site are at the bottom right. > > That said, I have also bought from and been very satisfied with > http://www.hawea.de/ > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 11:37:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EGbIWm026501 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:37:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:37:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F66C66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:27:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 690825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:25:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EGP5pT014804 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:25:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1423073nzo for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.4 with SMTP id b4mr1352343nzd; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:25:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Y0CHvGIyjXMZek9uiL+WEVNVICbjgPDLpSuxnP6urTx1q46NwStwn6z8hwen5Aoy9wWZ17wYcv0vcmAX6IbkdarVhzzN/6x37L3zLSb5B7ELjCoO7vwe1JKHGkT1Fph9Wt4TjkM0/T5FrHoJFY9LJU61LI11c8jM7yWR6WYfN20= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051409255a01a30c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:25:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Elwood and Mary Ann made it! In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050513212954.02753d50@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050513212954.02753d50@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4EGbIWm026501 YaY! I am there in spirit--if anything falls over and breaks, you'll know I was responsible.:) Karen On 5/13/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > I wonder if Natalie got her luggage? Did she meet Myles? Will she be > wearing her leopard outfit to Pinole? > > Mary Ann and Elwood look terrific although tired after a long drive. They > have retired to their hotel after dropping off gifts from their wine > country. Pretty labels and bottles indeed. > > The plumbing is working and the floors are clean. Let the party begin. > > Betty > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 11:54:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EGsmWm028801 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:54:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 11:54:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00639CCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:54:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 704005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:54:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EGsmGn017388 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:54:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1427617nzo for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.18 with SMTP id t18mr1347878nzc; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2005 09:54:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hrdyCyTCrtRlzTtiHFwgpt0wAPJFx2+VMBUyR/mOKuCF+uSoaM2VqMr5/3mspjdo+/FsvKn6PIYcbCo7i+R8oqvmS/EOdf++p+kAfsJkdrUahuij3qhwo69CxI8wiWQ3frNGU9+7ClQLYGn9UxhWP6whwMYQlB0z14QZ8+/q71Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051409541e1938cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:54:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 2005 Pun-Off In-Reply-To: <200505140512.j4E5CUSZ013707@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505140512.j4E5CUSZ013707@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4EGsmWm028801 On 5/14/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > > Karen, will you go? No. I don't know anyone who's in it and I'm not that fond of puns. And, I have to go to work. Karen wage slave From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 14:10:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EJACWm013842 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:10:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:10:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00639CC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:10:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 708677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:10:12 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EJABSk028304 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:10:12 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 59883923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:10:08 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050514120922.02775150@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:10:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Elwood and Mary Ann made it! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051409255a01a30c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050513212954.02753d50@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705051409255a01a30c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have the BatFest Coaster on prominent display. We broke glass last night. Betty At 09:25 AM 5/14/2005, you wrote: >YaY! I am there in spirit--if anything falls over and breaks, you'll know I >was responsible.:) > >Karen > >On 5/13/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > > > I wonder if Natalie got her luggage? Did she meet Myles? Will she be > > wearing her leopard outfit to Pinole? > > > > Mary Ann and Elwood look terrific although tired after a long drive. They > > have retired to their hotel after dropping off gifts from their wine > > country. Pretty labels and bottles indeed. > > > > The plumbing is working and the floors are clean. Let the party begin. > > > > Betty > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 14:40:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EJedWm017398 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:40:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:40:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00639E3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:40:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 709910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:40:38 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EJec5q030713 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:40:38 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 9BBD0BE8C8; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C757C284A for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 12:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:40:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Peter Kaminski has RSVP'd for A Retirement/Birthday Party (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is the RSVP Update for: A Retirement/Birthday Party on Sat. May. 14 The following guest(s) have recently RSVP'd: Peter Kaminski is undecided ----- I wonder when he'll make up his mind Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 15:04:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EK47Wm020812 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:04:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:04:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00639F38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:04:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 710779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:04:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EK46Km032645 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:04:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1454855nzo for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 13:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.18 with SMTP id j18mr1338282nzj; Sat, 14 May 2005 13:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2005 13:04:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ikejT5qPK6n1UqNkvJM5p41CKALSKycrYqmghhekQMKs1lPGMbyFMat08Vw9z5ThZNg5oBLn2K+ZiAgRYnAVQQONvHJwIp+n3ACNddnxa9TJn9U8jKIAxdrhA57SjpNbYSr8xi6GaDsdjks2tTCq5AZE1pBy9Gm9PiuZjhEnv4Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050514130451f2e57a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 15:04:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Elwood and Mary Ann made it! In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050514120922.02775150@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050513212954.02753d50@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705051409255a01a30c@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050514120922.02775150@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4EK47Wm020812 Sorry; had to happen sometime this weekend.:) On 5/14/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > I have the BatFest Coaster on prominent display. We broke glass last > night. > > Betty > > At 09:25 AM 5/14/2005, you wrote: > >YaY! I am there in spirit--if anything falls over and breaks, you'll know > I > >was responsible.:) > > > >Karen > > > >On 5/13/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > > > > > > I wonder if Natalie got her luggage? Did she meet Myles? Will she be > > > wearing her leopard outfit to Pinole? > > > > > > Mary Ann and Elwood look terrific although tired after a long drive. > They > > > have retired to their hotel after dropping off gifts from their wine > > > country. Pretty labels and bottles indeed. > > > > > > The plumbing is working and the floors are clean. Let the party begin. > > > > > > Betty > > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 15:06:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EK6kWm021203 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:06:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:06:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00639F44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:06:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 710419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:06:45 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EJui3V032010 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:56:44 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j4EJua7h017466; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 15:56:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200505141956.j4EJua7h017466@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU, terry.wild@gmail.com Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived Cc: jboor@math.umb.edu Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Update needed --- any further hatchings? Are the mother hens continuing to accept the hatchlings hatched in the basement? How are the cats adjusting? Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 16:31:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ELVsWm031691 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:31:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:31:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00639FF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:21:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 714500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:21:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ELLrtY006974 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:21:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1673350wra for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.9 with SMTP id f9mr2541611wra; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2005 14:21:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=jiRnGS9PLFgFeAIlAvDnXRwIml+WxOO4a96MvUJquPlPXBfAC7IU2YFxFQmd2vxMetO/DJ/ZF4avgTizfEgZ0/mRRG44Lsfw5/PEf4ee6tUTckZ5y+rLkQ2EcQ7yy3NzHtPDU+7/AAi2zSwujfzwUpTp6Ookf/W+i2CDuTm6iJI= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 17:21:50 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Espen: russ cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4ELVsWm031691 We saw all the red and blue overalls up the coast of Norway. I googled and now understand the tradition of russ. But what are the cards about? While having a Peppe's Pizza in Bergen we watched four giggling pre-teen girls running down the russ and asking for a card. What's that about? -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 16:40:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ELeOWm000069 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:40:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:40:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063A0E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:40:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 715176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:40:24 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ELeNWd008165 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:40:23 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-181.gwi.net [216.195.163.181]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4ELdw7E014071; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:40:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050514173236.01bf9740@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 17:33:08 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Peter Kaminski has RSVP'd for A Retirement/Birthday Party (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:40 PM 5/14/2005, Ann Borkin wrote: >----- I wonder when he'll make up his mind Sunday, May 15 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 16:49:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ELnrWm000982 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:49:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 16:49:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063A044@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:49:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 715397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:49:52 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4ELnpsI008635 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:49:52 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051423481218837 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 23:48:12 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 14 May 2005 23:49:50 +0200 Message-ID: <4286727C.4000504@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 23:49:48 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espen: russ cards References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2005 21:49:50.0492 (UTC) FILETIME=[DAA8A5C0:01C558CE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev skrev 14.05.2005 23:21: >We saw all the red and blue overalls up the coast of Norway. I googled and >now understand the tradition of russ. But what are the cards about? While >having a Peppe's Pizza in Bergen we watched four giggling pre-teen girls >running down the russ and asking for a card. What's that about? > > > The cards are in principle the same kind as the one I have from my job: a card presenting me and a phone number and an address. But the "russekort" are supposed to have jokes or funny slogans or quotes in addition. The tradition of "russ" BTW goes back at least 250 years - a Norwegian (or Danish as te Danes say) author/playwright, Ludvig Holberg uses the term in one of his plays, Erasmus Montanus, from sometime in the 18th century. "Russ" is supposed to come from "depositurus" - the students are deposing their horns when they matriculate. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 17:12:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EMCKWm003176 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:12:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:12:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063A1B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:12:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:12:19 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EMCJsp010494 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:12:19 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EC462FEEB2D6 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:10:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001401c558d1$9a09f480$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Peter Kaminski has RSVP'd for A Retirement/Birthday Party (fwd) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 17:09:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Borkin" To: Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: Peter Kaminski has RSVP'd for A Retirement/Birthday Party (fwd) > This is the RSVP Update for: > > A Retirement/Birthday Party on Sat. May. 14 > > > The following guest(s) have recently RSVP'd: > > Peter Kaminski is undecided > > ----- I wonder when he'll make up his mind > > Ann Well, if anyone sees him, please ask him to check in and just bring us up to date on what he's doing. Thanx. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 17:32:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4EMW7Wm005208 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:32:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 17:32:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063A02E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:32:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:32:06 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4EMW6Ng012013 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 18:32:06 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1690674wra for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.20 with SMTP id x20mr2560176wrc; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2005 15:32:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Pm2mr8EgRH4d56ykXPB2Vur/IKZbk3ALvGfKSh5X2Be5hJHULLHTvFRt4y2Fr+nYvqda1bnS/oOG/MJPGL+11KsHQf0Gxg2y91Dh+iVSgH4vYpmUvYw+5Bo6yEmlgvkuSx92Tb8jFCv3KAqyljrW8/oqbWVaTXGgTiX8nZ6FfG4= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 18:32:06 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espen: russ cards In-Reply-To: <4286727C.4000504@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4286727C.4000504@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4EMW7Wm005208 > > The cards are in principle the same kind as the one I have from my job: > a card presenting me and a phone number and an address. But the > "russekort" are supposed to have jokes or funny slogans or quotes in > addition. The tradition of "russ" BTW goes back at least 250 years - a > Norwegian (or Danish as te Danes say) author/playwright, Ludvig Holberg > uses the term in one of his plays, Erasmus Montanus, from sometime in > the 18th century. "Russ" is supposed to come from "depositurus" - the > students are deposing their horns when they matriculate. > Espen > And why do the younger children want these cards? Just to collect them? Or is there some tradition about getting the most cards or something? I see from the Afterposten that there has been some trouble this year (or maybe every year?) with rowdy russ. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 19:37:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4F0axWm019682 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 19:37:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 19:37:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063A726@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:36:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 729625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:36:59 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4F0awqw026029 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:36:58 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050515003658014004f43ce>; Sun, 15 May 2005 00:36:58 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: 2005 Pun-Off Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:36:54 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <46227195050514000275d00667@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A dentistry student was having problems in school and he consulted a > friend of the family, who was a retired dentist. When asked for > assistance, he replied, "Sure. But it's been some time so I need to > brush up." This is a TRUE STORY. We were having a discussion during a meeting at work about how to secure our new software product, and it turned to the value of the registry key used to tell the software the locking method. After much debate during which I was silent, I piped up with, "Can't we just say 1 if by LAN, 2 if by key?" That was my best one EVER. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 20:05:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4F15dWm022641 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:05:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:05:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063A5EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:05:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 731015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:05:39 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4F15cvt028759 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:05:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 26599 invoked by uid 89); 15 May 2005 01:05:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20050515010538.26598.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Live from the Scene Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:05:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pinole, California, USA, 14 May 2005, 6 p.m. PDT Things are absolutely gorgeously spectacularly perfect!! Wordslers hanging out under a beautiful tree right now include Miles, maureen, Boo, Sandra, Elwood & Mary Ann, AnnBork & Alan, Pete & Gwynnie, with BB & Larry occasionally popping by the tree. Lots of interesting people here. Glorious food and drink. Perfect weather. Wonderful house and yard. Life can't get any better (unless, of course, all of you were here). -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 20:07:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4F17iWm022734 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:07:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:07:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063A702@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:07:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 731149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:07:44 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4F17iTe028983 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 21:07:44 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005051501074301600s7i1ue>; Sun, 15 May 2005 01:07:43 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Live from the Scene Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 21:07:39 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050515010538.26598.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4F17iTe028984 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > can't get any better (unless, of course, all of you were here). I know I wish I were! Have a great time! --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 14 22:29:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4F3TlWm005047 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 22:29:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 22:29:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063AB5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 14 May 2005 23:19:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 740306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 14 May 2005 23:19:46 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4F3Jjnv010695 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 23:19:45 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 25870BE8C5; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198CFC2849 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 20:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:19:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Peter Kaminski has RSVP'd for A Retirement/Birthday Party (fwd) In-Reply-To: <001401c558d1$9a09f480$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 14 May 2005, Doris Markland wrote: > Well, if anyone sees him, please ask him to > check in and just bring us up to date on what > he's doing. Thanx. SocialText has 10 people and they're hiring 10 more. Sounds good. Gwinnie (sp?) has grown! She looks very, I don't know, -together-. Graceful. I like Pete. It was a happy party. Words-l people stuck tight in an introverted circle, but that suited me fine. I -did- meet a couple of Betty's friends, whom I liked at first exchange. Hell, I liked everybody! Each person seemed so, well like each person should be. I didn't get to talk much to Bad Betty, so who knows, maybe I wouldn't have liked her so much. Edward's chili is really really good: kind of bitter, then kind of sweet, then kind of hot, and all through those sensations very tasting good [ungrammar on purpose] I even met Larry's father! And I like him too, and he even remembered my name. Janet may enroll in a graphics design program. I hope she does. I like Janet! Myles was there, like Buddha under the tree! Gosh I like Myles! Natalie was so regular and non-mutant! I really like Natalie! You get the picture. I'm sorry I left too early for the group hug. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 00:35:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4F5ZhWm024018 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 00:35:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 00:35:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063ACDB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 1:35:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 746409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 01:35:43 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4F5Zg4Y020860 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 01:35:43 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23773BE8C0 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 22:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <001401c558d1$9a09f480$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:35:32 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Peter Kaminski has RSVP'd for A Retirement/Birthday Party (fwd) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 8:19 PM -0700 5/14/05, Ann Borkin wrote: >Janet may enroll in a graphics design program. I hope she does. I like >Janet! > >Myles was there, like Buddha under the tree! Gosh I like Myles! > >Natalie was so regular and non-mutant! I really like Natalie! > >You get the picture. I'm sorry I left too early for the group hug. Everyone looked great and no one has aged since Wordquake, except for Gwynnie. I think this may have been the largest west-coast wordsler gathering since Wordquake, and maybe even since Missionfest, and it wasn't even a words-l gathering per se. Although I didn't discover this until most wordslers had left, Betty's friends and cow orkers are a hoot and a half. She has undoubtedly corrupted them beyond redemption. Ken Miller Social Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 00:41:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4F5fWWm024415 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 00:41:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 00:41:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063AD94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 1:41:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 746519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 01:41:31 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4F5fVjr021110 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 01:41:31 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA88FBE8C0 for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 22:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20050515010538.26598.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Billy-Collins: The wastebasket is the writer's best friend Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:41:18 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Live from the Scene Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 6:05 PM -0700 5/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Pinole, California, USA, 14 May 2005, 6 p.m. PDT > >Things are absolutely gorgeously spectacularly perfect!! Wordslers hanging >out under a beautiful tree right now include Miles, maureen, Boo, Sandra, >Elwood & Mary Ann, AnnBork & Alan, Pete & Gwynnie, with BB & Larry And Janet and Edward. >occasionally popping by the tree. Lots of interesting people here. >Glorious food and drink. Perfect weather. Wonderful house and yard. Life >can't get any better (unless, of course, all of you were here). Not the biggest house around, but what a perfect yard to hang out in. Ken Miller Social Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 03:17:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4F8GnWm008225 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 03:16:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 03:17:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063AEC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 4:06:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 750598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 04:06:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4F86mHJ002795 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 04:06:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1800087wra for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 01:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.160.8 with SMTP id i8mr2779008wre; Sun, 15 May 2005 01:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 01:06:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KwpuAWFXfEgldZKobGFCZT/84J8z6Z9nhHMVHW8RFJ6hcA1ibt+JWwISA1CPciYWVH/E0B3fedUY2buGQYXomcHCoGLt+lRmsxW+28Osn9+ilIXhz+qhJxOWuIgTxEpZJtg2OjuizdayL7tR78Tq4Mp8Fqb3/0SDbkDXYYIstvY= Message-ID: <4622719505051501067ed21a1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 03:06:43 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Maters Maters! In-Reply-To: <829856599.20050513105408@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42825776.3000902@maynor.net> <4622719505051112311460249c@mail.gmail.com> <14884827.20050512003938@gailndan.com> <46227195050512225462fdbc2d@mail.gmail.com> <829856599.20050513105408@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4F86mHJ002796 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/12/2005, 11:54 PM, phil paxton wrote: > > pp> What about the aluminum piepan tied with a length of > pp> twine? > > Not sure that would work too well on the top corners of a four story > building. Or that the "campus beauty" folks would approve of it, > either. > No one said it had to be visible from the ground. I was thinking more of the garden plants. Any more, many can't use the old methods of deterrence:: hair clippings, mothballs, etc. We don't really have a problem because most of the animals are afraid of the dogs even though the dogs can't get to the garden area when we've planted. We are now to the point of the right time of year for starting a garden. Rabbits have ventured inside of the fence occasionally as have squirrels - they seem to like maple seeds which have been in the ground and have partially rotted - and the dogs give them a good run for their money.The birds do nest inside of the fence because they've learned the cats won't venture inside the fence at-all. Occasionally, a cat will stand on a planter in front of the living room window and tease the dogs - frequently for a long period of time.. Before too much longer, they may face the chance of finding themselves tossed over the fence, awaiting the dogs; providing a reciprocal opportunity. My mom is down to two greyhounds and has said conversations|email with peer owners has indicated many areas where greyhounds are present are devoid of cats and squirrels as the greyhounds hunt via sight and can catch a cat, even when the cat is in adrenaline mode. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 04:11:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4F9B5Wm014658 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 04:11:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 04:11:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063AF0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 5:01:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 751554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:00:58 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4F90uiJ008288 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:00:57 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j4F90skp028594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:00:55 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 05:00:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: C'est The Day! In-Reply-To: <20050514153951.16729.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Message-ID: References: <20050514153951.16729.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 14 May 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I wish the clock would move along rapidly, making it time to head to Pinole! > > Larry K: Remind me to tell you my funny Find-a-Grave story when I get home > and have more e-time. A psycho (who calls himself something like > Grave-Addiction) is accusing me of having stolen his picture of my > great-grandparents' grave -- he's even convinced the owners of the site to > remove my picture. I'm looking forward to getting home to look at mine > compared to his to see the differences that will surely be there. The funny > part of the story (annoyingly funny) is that when I told him I'd taken that > picture in about '99 -- had scanned it from a print since that was before I > had a digital camera, he said that I was clearly lying since I hadn't > submitted it to Find-a-Grave until after he had submitted his. Iow, he > seems to think pictures cannot exist in the world unless they're on > Find-a-Grave. I have not been able to convince him that that picture not > only existed in '99 or so but that the print still exists in a shoebox in my > house. He keeps saying that I'm a LIAR, LIAR, LIAR and that I may be banned > forever from Find-a-Grave. It is all too bizarre for words. > > More later... > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Natalie, If you need me to vouch for you to the owner of Find-a-Grave, just let me know. Meanwhile, Janice and Sarah and I are having a fabulously interesting weekend in Chicago. I'll be doing some research at the Harold Washington Library Center of CPL tomorrow (er, technically today, Sunday), while Janice takes Sarah to American Girl. Saturday was Janice's 50th birthday. We actually celebrated her "erev birthday" (birthday eve) on Friday evening; I gave her the iPod she had wanted. On Saturday, we visited the Field Museum (which Sarah, always fascinated by dinosaur bones, insisted on), we spent the evening with a lot of my relatives on East Lake Shore Drive, celebrating the law school graduation of my second cousin, as well as Janice's birthday. We all enjoyed this very much. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 05:36:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4FAZvWm029585 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:35:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:36:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063AF5C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 6:35:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 754163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 06:35:56 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4FAZtWE013071 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 06:35:56 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051512341719312 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 12:34:17 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 15 May 2005 12:35:55 +0200 Message-ID: <42872607.3020704@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 12:35:51 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Espen: russ cards References: <4286727C.4000504@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2005 10:35:55.0217 (UTC) FILETIME=[DFC51410:01C55939] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev skrev 15.05.2005 00:32: > And why do the younger children want these cards? Just to collect them? Or >is there some tradition about getting the most cards or something? > > Yes :-) > I see from the Afterposten that there has been some trouble this year (or >maybe every year?) with rowdy russ. > > > russ = rowdy Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 07:12:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4FCCCWm008329 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 07:12:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 07:12:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F68E48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 8:12:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 756289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 08:12:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4FCCB6F011644 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 08:12:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1555101nzo for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr1401290nzd; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:12:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Xh9UP854AM6OBwaXQgOQiSHIPf0jUYaeYwbIn+IToRk7h2yxOfrps4s6O28DNaOEcuITODKFdmK0LvRx36YQO3EuQi+W7nJLZxG2Hi8r3VJkYRUc2D5iXO/3z6YL8lS64/h3B41N4KJsqKcIkX995oMnJZzbSrrCXblV/6ONoWI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 07:12:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Does Natalie know Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4FCCCWm008329 that tonight is the Survivor finale? I didn't--I saw an ad on TV that said something about Survivor Sunday, so I went and checked the schedule. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 07:39:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4FCcqWm010676 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 07:38:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 07:39:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F68E9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 8:38:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 757011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 08:38:52 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4FCcqYo013368 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 08:38:52 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1849349wra for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.76 with SMTP id v76mr2899272wrv; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 05:38:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cOjuHhEAjRAmWd0aMQa/kSHvvDO08IPSpZbIlsTurISzRLnoBIyvNv4dxmke9KCpxlsKMjQYySdI7c38NJ1p4Pothyoce1TwdDLLkz/Yl+XuCyuXpUGzmDH661uMO9GkMW+Mt6Ofj7laVQlNjqB5KfLRXrsCxmFoWfn+Vyb25xY= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:38:51 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4FCcqWm010676 > > that tonight is the Survivor finale? I didn't--I saw an ad on TV that said > something about Survivor Sunday, so I went and checked the schedule. > Karen > I doubt it. She posted this before she left: > in addition to taping it > for myself since I'm going to be gone tomorrow night, I am going to tape > this one and the next few Survivors for them since they are in France > and Spain -- he in France, she in Spain. They left their VCR set to > tape those weeks, but electricity in Starkville is famously iffy.) -- > Natalie To which I posted, after she has left: "Poor Natalie. She doesn't seem to realize that tonight is the second to the last Survivor with the three hour finale being this Sunday night while she is probably still in California." -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 09:05:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4FE5cWm021679 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 09:05:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 09:05:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F69077@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 10:05:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 760670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 10:05:37 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4FE5adt019092 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 10:05:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8878A397A for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 17:05:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24245-02 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 17:05:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B56A3971 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 17:05:35 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4287572B.1020102@akad.ee> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:05:31 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Peter Kaminski has RSVP'd for A Retirement/Birthday Party (fwd) References: <001401c558d1$9a09f480$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.047 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >Ann Borkin wrote: > > >>Janet may enroll in a graphics design program. I hope she does. I like >>Janet! >> >>Myles was there, like Buddha under the tree! Gosh I like Myles! >> >>Natalie was so regular and non-mutant! I really like Natalie! >> >>You get the picture. I'm sorry I left too early for the group hug. >> >> > >Everyone looked great and no one has aged since Wordquake, except for Gwynnie. > >I think this may have been the largest west-coast wordsler gathering since >Wordquake, and maybe even since Missionfest, and it wasn't even a words-l >gathering per se. > >Although I didn't discover this until most wordslers had left, Betty's >friends and cow orkers are a hoot and a half. She has undoubtedly >corrupted them beyond redemption. > Congratulations, Betty! I've certainly missed several messages (I guess most of these sit in my mailbox unread). I knew your birthday was coming soon, I knew that there was your "last day onboard" recently, I knew that Natalie would go to SF and meet Myles, I knew there was going to be a celebration on Saturday. Only I couldn't put all the things together. And also it's a pleasure to congratulate you on these descriptions, above in this thread, of the fest and your guests. It's great to read that obviously you had a good day. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 09:37:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4FEauWm025313 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 09:36:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 09:37:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F69111@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 10:36:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 762107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 10:36:56 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4FEauiC021275 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 10:36:56 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1874480wra for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 07:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.6 with SMTP id x6mr2893020wrc; Sun, 15 May 2005 07:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 07:36:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=baHrYIkL4kQ67Dtk98XBkbg837vzfvCviArgHWmIDXsP/WdYGdGVyQPbcJ6Fdu67NDjk17id+SUztKdu3VJ9O5WA2zeDTkAkGdukvVD4fk4/4N/YfWQkOM23ilSrDfE9gZ7O/h3z+QK+pJ5P8KR6cCWV8B3NSAYF3zHK+8q6nVw= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 10:36:55 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Overheard on the street Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4FEauWm025313 Bar Harbor is being graced by a cruise ship visit today, The Maasdam. A lot of cold, lost people are wandering the streets. The village is definitely not putting its best foot forward. There is still a look of winter about the place. The crosswalks have not been repainted since snow and salt have erased last year's markings. The sidewalks on several streets have been torn up and not yet replaced. The main park, near the town landing, is simply dirt and large equipment parked for the weekend. I overheard one man say to another: "I've been to Alaska twice. It was warmer than this." -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 10:06:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4FF6XWm027858 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 10:06:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 10:06:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F69197@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 11:06:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 763182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 11:06:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4FF6WQ4023166 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 11:06:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1577565nzo for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 08:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.18 with SMTP id h18mr1404788nzc; Sun, 15 May 2005 08:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 08:06:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eOjlCa6vnZjktGHOsR+k/TSa4yir57DUJbSPjBq0A42NMWlfl18IoEdByy8zh8jZEhB4peXIgQJrS2mpLfpM/99O2//Q4iD4D+R1yTGjwdutKOTKqEJduUqhWgHn7oOp+IIlaJBbLv0V8CyiGDwf11R7CXFJbQ0m9wtbC4WEfF4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 10:06:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4FF6XWm027858 Oh. I skimmed that, but it didn't stick, I guess. On 5/15/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > that tonight is the Survivor finale? I didn't--I saw an ad on TV that > said > > something about Survivor Sunday, so I went and checked the schedule. > > Karen > > > I doubt it. She posted this before she left: > > > in addition to taping it > > for myself since I'm going to be gone tomorrow night, I am going to tape > > this one and the next few Survivors for them since they are in France > > and Spain -- he in France, she in Spain. They left their VCR set to > > tape those weeks, but electricity in Starkville is famously iffy.) -- > > Natalie > > To which I posted, after she has left: > > "Poor Natalie. She doesn't seem to realize that tonight is the second to > the last Survivor with the three hour finale being this Sunday night while > she is probably still in California." > > -- > --bonniev > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 12:08:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4FH8fWm009837 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 12:08:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 12:08:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063B394@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 13:08:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 767505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 13:08:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4FH8ew3031853 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 13:08:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so528336nzp for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 10:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.154.6 with SMTP id b6mr1469287nze; Sun, 15 May 2005 10:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 10:08:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LlrsEi94DfI7Hm91pZ6tSFdiFuMx38MA2hOfev4qu+9a53H8T3jyO45kuJkrV8eO07F92KBjGzecwlzc01WnZqElZumlvocXDAs1bT+chkTSceliot8+k7RU8nwlWBUF6UA4NXVlmPBUZX0VHqbUlG8jfPRYE8m6isxjF0dGjn4= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 13:08:40 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Maters Maters! In-Reply-To: <42825776.3000902@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42825776.3000902@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4FH8ew3031854 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I just noticed that I've got some little tomatoes coming along. I returned from my week-long trip to find sun-dried tomatoes. Guess I should have mentioned the plants to my housesitting roomie. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 13:13:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4FIDcWm018731 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 13:13:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 13:13:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063B4E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 14:08:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 14:08:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4FI8fEN002974 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 14:08:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1607751nzo for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 11:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr1410014nzh; Sun, 15 May 2005 11:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 11:08:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OkgtBTamgRbpIFTOR8QpK+iVP/DtAZi2ZNltk1pLG2GRTPSL2d9I0FgaG9IFvQyWEUg0CXWhiTNbAx/8T45ShTHQz2xoxnyHY8/GurtxON3UB8HeGeZwvtgFTCJqLZqfY/liC437FYPhwEWYF649zvlspvbGIz+WSY1/aOMPfAs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050515110845b30c5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 13:08:41 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Maters Maters! In-Reply-To: <200505151803.j4FI3VSk002636@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505151803.j4FI3VSk002636@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4FIDcWm018731 On 5/15/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > now, I can go on vacation. You deserve it! Have enough for me, too!:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 13:13:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4FIDcWm018729 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 13:13:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 13:13:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063B304@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 14:03:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 14:03:37 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4FI3VSk002636 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 14:03:31 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6942A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 14:03:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200505151803.j4FI3VSk002636@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 14:03:31 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Maters Maters! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 15 May 2005 13:08:40 -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> I just noticed that I've got some little tomatoes coming along. > >I returned from my week-long trip to find sun-dried tomatoes. Guess I >should have mentioned the plants to my housesitting roomie. > >Ben Just reporting in that my parents' 50th anniversary went off w/out a hitch, unless you count too much really good food a hitch. My taciturn brother gave a really impressive address that solved the mystery of their meeting and courtship - in that he gave all three of the myths, starting with working as a garbage collector for $50/day and all she could eat, then the one in which , on a Harley, was so busy guy-watching that she didn't see the open manhole, and finally the one in which his roommate was courting her cousin, who brought a chaperone to the Duke-Navy game, which prompted the beau to bring to distract the chaperone. Since they were in Divinity school, the cousin's beau was actually the minister who married them in the end. A blugrass band played gospel and some old family favorites, and we all sang along to "Clementine". My 7 yr old niece played a grace on violin, and I read an Occasional. Commencement was also today; now, I can go on vacation. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 18:12:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4FNCfWm023797 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 18:12:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 18:12:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063B7C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 19:12:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 780580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:12:40 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4FNCeOV023648 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:12:40 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2006379wra for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 16:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.76 with SMTP id v76mr3204148wrv; Sun, 15 May 2005 16:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 16:12:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Dm61yWcypbgxe/y2XVlPlKDddsNZjT3N2JXfvb2rwsa7UrIK2fMszwBewfjJGRT49lnHznGMeUA4ZEIZQ+NGyRR/+lqYNS9QCMejzDMDj12imhVF2PHwUlGBi/neT48NwJ6eShjd5r1MFIzFA4PiOmkw8TNLlR6x85fP55cXIJk= Message-ID: <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 18:12:38 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4FNCeOV023649 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/15/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Oh. I skimmed that, but it didn't stick, I guess. > > On 5/15/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > > that tonight is the Survivor finale? I didn't--I saw an ad on TV that > > said > > > something about Survivor Sunday, so I went and checked the schedule. > > > Karen > > > > > I doubt it. She posted this before she left: > > > > > in addition to taping it > > > for myself since I'm going to be gone tomorrow night, I am going to tape > > > this one and the next few Survivors for them since they are in France > > > and Spain -- he in France, she in Spain. They left their VCR set to > > > tape those weeks, but electricity in Starkville is famously iffy.) -- > > > Natalie I like the suspense of the finale - the final immunity - although it's predictable....stand or perch in a position until someone can't take it any more. The part which is tough is they don't look like they did at the end- they've all filled back out from having enough water & food. The underlying philosphy I have gotten bored with is when they try to spice things up at the beginning: "THEY START WITH NOTHING AT ALL!" But compete for flint in the first immunity challenge. They start with no food, but nearly every immunity challenge (after the first one) involves getting more food - good food. I suppose that makes them compete more because they want good food and I'm certain they make it the winner take someone else at the end to stir the sh%t pot of alliances to force the winner to pick someone to go with them. I guess they feel they don't want to compete with Fear Factor for the nasty food. (That's the primary reason I watch Fear Factor. Watching the buff athletes perform stunts is boring. Watch them eating from the "Road Kill Cafe" is where it's at. There are too many loopholes & loose-ends to do this, but I thought it would be interesting to have "IllEatAnything.com" (it's still in my idea journal[1]). People could submit "bids" of things they'd be willing to eat and people would submit how much they'd be willing to pay to see them eat it. Those who want the money would up the ante to find something else. Unfortunately, the liabilities are too great where there would be no controls like there are on TV. Did you notice the women were wearing identical outfits (the bottoms) at one point? (are they still?) Perhaps they were getting complaints the bikini bottoms weren't fitting very well later in the games? Has anyone noticed they don't talk about the "item of leisure" like they used to? I figured all of the women took razors because you don't see any hair growing on their legs. I'd think 40+ days is enough to show some foilage. [1] Aside from some misfires (as mentioned), my journal has continued to grow over the previous year or two. I finally began consolidating my ideas from the past and adding new ones as they occurred. Aside from a substantial number of business ideas - (more non-software than software), I've got two tv shows - one much better than the other, three commercials, and an improvement on a Hummer H2 billboard. What I'm having a hard time finding is the mechanism for putting these things together. In the middle of Indiana and people say, "find an agent". Yeah, right. Who isn't going to say, "Of course I can help you!" just for the work. And I don't know who to trust outside of my home turf. p From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 20:30:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G1UcWm004918 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:30:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:30:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063B822@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 21:30:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 784814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:30:38 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G1KbDp000600 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:20:38 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4G1KRd5010352 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:20:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:20:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: the little things Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How do y'all ever remember the little things before a trip abroad? They are driving me crazy right now. I have a passport, some momey, some clothes, a carryon that I may have to check, after all (because I have decided to take a laptop), an airline reservation (and there is enough money left in the travel coffer to try to get an upgrade tomorrow or at flight time) - what else do I need? Lots, of course. Especially a little piece of paper with phone nos. on it, a copy of my passport, etc. I want to be on the airplane headed from Atl to Barcelona! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 20:42:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G1g7Wm006334 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:42:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:42:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063B835@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 21:42:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 785984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:42:07 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G1g6Wh003164 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:42:07 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2042181wra for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 18:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.76 with SMTP id v76mr3270230wrv; Sun, 15 May 2005 18:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 18:42:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=QghCly1jzQo8SAEUL8+K5fT70FtN/IIaAl8X1T2eBhRg6qJugqcgcKw9hYInLh8AOzzd4SxygUv44MmHghtceix0OI5i1+v/m6mCorplHi8dTNHx9LXtWis/s3L9+ejFzRDhm3w1QSuuqdY7ogyi0fF348LQxBitDyZEbDDrm9g= Message-ID: <462271950505151842375344f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 20:42:06 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Survivor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4G1g7Wh003166 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My strategy If Tom were smart, he'd be trying to keep Ian on the island right now. If you watch the jury, collectively rolling their eyes every time he talks, Tom vs. Ian would be a no-brainer. That's been one of the major strategic errors in previous series - picking the wrong opponent at the end. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 21:10:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G2AAWm008511 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:10:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:10:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063B865@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 22:00:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 786714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:00:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G209mH004630 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:00:09 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2047139wra for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.6.55 with SMTP id 55mr3255526wrf; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:00:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hAojZPxT4G+3xz5OL5QfHwr65ItlbAllhlwKL4JkVPD8wjJ/Y0ylLvGwi0MnBgp5gX2Slit3BoLKM1rIs5bA173j1vzETkMapkKvQiKax3+45qxsIvkK6j/3zply0xItYxKp/e2Gj0aI4qSzf450TmaNJ/u67AK0p94SGFg/X6A= Message-ID: <4622719505051519002aad96b6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:00:09 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the little things In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4G209mH004631 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/15/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > How do y'all ever remember the little things before a trip abroad? They > are driving me crazy right now. > > I have a passport, some momey, some clothes, a carryon that I may have to > check, after all (because I have decided to take a laptop), an airline > reservation (and there is enough money left in the travel coffer to try to > get an upgrade tomorrow or at flight time) - what else do I need? Lots, of > course. Especially a little piece of paper with phone nos. on it, a copy > of my passport, etc. > > I want to be on the airplane headed from Atl to Barcelona! Do you keep a set of clothes in your carry-on? I *always* make sure I've got something else to wear - whether it's scrubs, shorts & t-shirt, something as a change of clothes in case I get stuck and need something other than what I'm wearing lest other luggage become misplaced. Something light enough you can roll up very, very tight so little room is used. I'm also very strategic about what else is in my carry-on: 1) a bottle or two of water, 2) mint candy to chew on, 3) soap, 4) deoderant, 5) antacid, and 6)immodium. We had an internal motto on our soccer team: anticipate the mistake. I've been stuck at the end of the tarmack for 3-4 hours, waiting for all sorts of problems. We had a motto on our soccer team: anticipate the mistake. In the case of airlines, there are two levels - theirs, and mine - for not anticipating theirs. 1, 2: because you can only go so long before fur starts growing in your mouth - tongue, teeth, etc. 3, 4: a "whore's bath" - which goes hand-in-hand with a change of clothes at the end of the trip. But when stuck on the ground, there's not always air-conditioning. Eventually, the grunge becomes unbearable. 5, 6: There are likely worse tortures, but needing antacids and Immodium when none are available are in the top four. You can take tablets for both, but Immodium is now available as a liquid. The nice thing about pills is they won't break open & spill. Oh, and a box of plastic bags. For the parents (to use) who can't keep their kids (infants, toddlers) quiet. I just pray the parents have enough spare diapers. I've been known to slip a deck or two of playing cards in my pack to keep kids old enough occupied. It's not their fault their parents don't know how to plan. p From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 21:12:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G2CMWm008644 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:12:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:12:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F69CA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 22:02:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 786933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:02:21 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G22K2B005072 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:02:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2047726wra for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.49.9 with SMTP id w9mr3269642wrw; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:02:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Dgne39EUvWrbdrCxl+IqaVvYQgNfzIqQBdjxvX7Fv8Ef+6uACHvy21IsMX0rf29g2bEkVN8YiIYqjIzZuA9UT8Io0eTuf5OKg8uJ10d+3gGtBNsbhWs25VNoo7xEm0Pty3P5LLZ9tegT0+ikImZb79VR66RbFd9O94YBMMpjpbU= Message-ID: <4622719505051519026acd618b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:02:20 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What do you call? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4G22L2B005074 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU emergency brake. On 5/13/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Send your answers directly to me as to protect influencing the answers of > others. > What to you call the brake that sits between the driver and passenger seat > in your car? > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 21:17:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G2HVWm009029 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:17:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:17:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063B889@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 22:17:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:17:31 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G2HUSn006355 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:17:30 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2051579wra for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.6.63 with SMTP id 63mr3243743wrf; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 19:17:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=r6LUz+pfM/2Hz4wE4tnXyP9IFTsVtAwcl1+pLjbCNrvRAu1HjCqVl0IW4O2JMc78KPQvhDlX/2aJ7+iMM1m/UfzIH2izJrl2vhprN8aR1Dryg11VhFRJ1GWpbhNzfLxNqemefz1Jc6fUejyHfEQuUqxDHKF5U24caCoppHWpsNw= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:17:30 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the little things In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4G2HVWm009029 > > How do y'all ever remember the little things before a trip abroad? They > are driving me crazy right now. --Bethany > Don't worry about the little things. Worry about the big things like terrorists and catching some dreadful disease from the guy two seats ahead of you. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 21:51:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G2pQWm013144 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:51:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:51:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063BA14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 22:51:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 788877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:51:25 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G2pPai008776 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:51:25 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-82.gwi.net [216.195.167.82]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4G2pJ0o014523; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:51:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050515225020.01bf94a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:51:08 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: What do you call? In-Reply-To: <4622719505051519026acd618b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4622719505051519026acd618b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:02 PM 5/15/2005, phil paxton wrote: >emergency brake. Just out of curiosity---when was the last time you used that brake in an emergency versus using it while parking? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 22:13:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G3DLWm015982 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:13:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063BA62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 23:03:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:03:12 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G33CGk010577 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:03:12 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.130.23]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516030312.BPFE2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:03:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.130.23]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516030312.TJYP17253.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:03:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:03:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: BIA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Y'all can start being interesting again. I just turned mail back on. But don't be very interesting until tomorrow or later. I'm behind in everything. LOVED THE CALIFORNIA WEEKEND! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 22:39:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G3dlWm019000 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:39:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:39:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063BB48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 23:39:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:39:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G3dkvU014127 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:39:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1696116nzo for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.5 with SMTP id t5mr1455359nzc; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:39:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IxY0LZ0AF61KgEpkgHg/KAVzfVERLHw0jg5jkSJsELnLrMZEowGsHp7mKCizfMW+V6ynTQP/fn/hj/f8oCpBIEJyx6Hdt8xvoyM6yxri+5B28nH3tOvak93y2yM0WfcIbQqpt+LvSqKvzkQezFHVMCT27heFUODmw79AjOto7nU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505152039265b2164@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:39:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the little things In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4G3dlWm019000 On 5/15/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > How do y'all ever remember the little things before a trip abroad? They > are driving me crazy right now. Categorized lists. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 22:50:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G3o1Wm020581 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:50:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:50:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063BC6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 23:46:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:46:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G3kUus014801 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:46:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1697606nzo for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr1474405nzd; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:46:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=HRSUVb4XqBdWbEWI8ttTfOmUgwBIOjnuexeyrm5f7LpvzAX9acWHbP0SFVOSjS/D/Z8wioSCoZa8RYE763gTkH+m6AWRFq3myYfP9vWwtPzsmjT4Gs8Cz1vxkNLgHM1xNsr0z/SZiE06XKs9V656sYKntMKPCW2VsNvTMBFwBDU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050515204661849f18@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:46:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: DSL Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4G3o1Wm020581 I understand that DSL and DSL pro are different... Is standard DSL annoying because it's so slow? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 22:50:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G3o1Wm020579 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:50:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:50:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063BB49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 23:40:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:40:00 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G3dxPa014159 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:39:59 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19891488 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 20:44:09 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 15 May 2005 20:40:19 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:40:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1021513539.20050515214008@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: What do you call? In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050515225020.01bf94a0@pop.gwi.net> References: <4622719505051519026acd618b@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050515225020.01bf94a0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 199, in=81608, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/15/2005, 8:51 PM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> At 10:02 PM 5/15/2005, phil paxton wrote: >>emergency brake. cwv> Just out of curiosity---when was the last time you cwv> used that brake in an cwv> emergency versus using it while parking? I don't use it for either one. No reason to use it for parking if you know how to park. And haven't had an emergency to require use of it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 22:56:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G3u9Wm021073 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:56:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:56:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063BD40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 15 May 2005 23:56:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 795339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:56:09 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G3u8j6016140 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:56:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19895154 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:00:19 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 15 May 2005 20:56:29 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:56:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <839529894.20050515215617@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL Q In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050515204661849f18@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050515204661849f18@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 199, in=81615, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/15/2005, 9:46 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I understand that DSL and DSL pro are different... AFoA> Is standard DSL annoying AFoA> because it's so slow? I'm not familiar with "DSL Pro". Sounds like some providers marketing term. DSL comes in a variety of speeds. You get what you pay for. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 23:13:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G4DQWm023528 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:13:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:13:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063BD4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 0:13:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 797138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:12:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G43N8H017161 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:03:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1700924nzo for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.8 with SMTP id t8mr1439216nzc; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:03:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cSQVLpPDz4P4AR3ccXlm1x0DmUQHHIk0gjKHfE9+9/TQ0F0kBgFd2NsX3WRgXo3lzAWwx78wKE0Fx3jQqJNg5J69goMewux+smXsazpMwFCCVH15oh8+cItiK21MtAWdawGE/Rfx+Brqnpi2sdT2IYAejv4NnMX876rgPf2tarQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051521033e0a84c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:03:23 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL Q In-Reply-To: <839529894.20050515215617@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050515204661849f18@mail.gmail.com> <839529894.20050515215617@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4G4DQWm023528 On 5/15/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/15/2005, 9:46 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> I understand that DSL and DSL pro are different... > AFoA> Is standard DSL annoying > AFoA> because it's so slow? > > I'm not familiar with "DSL Pro". Sounds like some providers marketing > term. > > DSL comes in a variety of speeds. You get what you pay for. Thanks for your input. Is the slower DSL annoyingly slow? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 23:20:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G4KGWm024376 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:20:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:20:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6A1CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 0:20:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 797979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:20:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G4KF9h018819 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:20:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1703979nzo for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.8 with SMTP id t8mr1441229nzc; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:20:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=UXQLkwF+8ZXpBjEi/HVsQ81nMe3Abn7QP6ZlzJ9kCBwPWLI0oKIleLY/GDOy4HQAivXviefLdtvIzTq2807sChzrx/CpSSWWMGOC6R4UVMsAbtPXdrROWINGY0aMitoFTgUXGj7BSSGXc3zVfx9eBgNtoVwWu2al+wSYdF/tEqQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505152120594e10bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:20:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Aha! I know who Nanook is! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4G4KGWm024376 Or at least, what kind of cat she is. A Pink Champagne Maine Coon. Cool! http://www.blazerscats.com/maine_coons.html and search on pink champagne. Nanook's patterning is a bit different, but otherwise, they could be twins. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 23:54:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G4seWm029242 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:54:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:54:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063BE77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 0:44:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 798805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:44:39 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G4idPK021858 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:44:39 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104259701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 21:44:38 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050515213646.0266d960@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:45:27 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: BIA In-Reply-To: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:03 PM 5/15/2005, you wrote: >Y'all can start being interesting again. I just turned mail back on. >But don't be very interesting until tomorrow or later. I'm behind in >everything. > >LOVED THE CALIFORNIA WEEKEND! > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Thanks for coming, Natalie! (She won the prize for the wordsler who came the furthest because it didn't work out for steph.) Thanks to all of you who came. I put some photos of the party together just for wordslers because y'all don't know my family and friends. I gave my camera to Natalie and she snapped away all afternoon and filled up a 512 MB card, Edward's chili was a huge hit. http://home.comcast.net/~bfclark2/Party/ Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 23:54:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G4seWm029243 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:54:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:54:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063BDDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 0:52:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 799271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:52:03 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G4q3vM023738 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:52:03 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.130.23]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516045203.KEDX2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:52:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.130.23]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516045203.BGHW8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:52:03 -0400 Message-ID: <428826EE.90301@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:51:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the little things References: <8ddfc8a70505152039265b2164@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505152039265b2164@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/15/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > >>How do y'all ever remember the little things before a trip abroad? They >>are driving me crazy right now. >> >> > >Categorized lists. > > What kinds of little things? What's different about a trip abroad from a domestic trip except for two things that I don't think of as plus a third thing that depends on where abroad you're going as to whether it's a and is sort of little. The two things I think of that are non-little are (1) remembering my passport (which isn't difficult since it lives in my airplane ticket-holder thingy -- in fact, I used my passport for security ID on my trip to California because it was sitting there more easily accessible than my driver's license; (2) thinking about money-changing -- whether to count on an ATM card's magnetic strip not dying, whether to get some TCs, whether to take a wad of cash to change. The third thing is electricity. My hairdryer has a currency switch, but I need to remember taking plug-adapters if I'm going to some place that doesn't have our kind of plug. And if I want to use other electrical devices and am going to a place that doesn't use our current, I take an adapter. My most recent trip out of the country (unless you count California as out of the country, and I don't -- I found it quite feeling, though my ears did perk up when I got on the plane today at SFO and realized that suddenly most of the people around me were -- it was a flight to Memphis) -- anyway, on my most recent trip out of the country, (1) I remembered my passport, not difficult since it was in my plane-ticket holder; (2) I just took a wad of cash to change to yen since I knew that once I got to Japan having a wad of cash would be safe (I had it in a money-belt until getting off the plane at Narita); (3) I didn't have to think about electricity since the US and Japan are compatible. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) still up because I'm enjoying being on Pacific Time and am milking it so as to show off by being up until almost midnight -- but I need to make myself go to bed so that I can get up tomorrow morning and put the recycling bin out From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 15 23:56:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G4u0Wm029420 for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:56:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 15 May 2005 23:56:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063BDE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 0:55:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 799419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:55:59 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G4txEp024196 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:55:59 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.130.23]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516045559.KIHT2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:55:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.130.23]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516045559.BHKL8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:55:59 -0400 Message-ID: <428827DB.9050805@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:55:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL Q References: <8ddfc8a7050515204661849f18@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050515204661849f18@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I understand that DSL and DSL pro are different... Is standard DSL annoying >because it's so slow? > > I don't know that I've heard the exact term "DSL pro," but there are varying speeds of DSL. BellSouth has ads trying to get people to upgrade to "super-DSL" or whatever they call it. And I think they offer something called "DSL-lite." I am quite content with my ordinary DSL. But someday maybe I'll look at it in a different way. I remember being quite content with a 1200-baud modem. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 00:12:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G5CMWm032152 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:12:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:12:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063BEC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 1:02:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 800070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 01:02:22 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G52LGd025169 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 01:02:21 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.130.23]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516050221.KMYR2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 01:02:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.130.23]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516050221.BJBW8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 01:02:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42882959.7040605@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 00:02:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BIA References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050515213646.0266d960@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050515213646.0266d960@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Thanks for coming, Natalie! (She won the prize for the wordsler who came > the furthest because it didn't work out for steph.) And what a wonderful prize it was! It is a super-neat Sumo fan -- I don't mean the flat kind -- I mean the unfolding kind. (BB: Tell Ryan that I was laughing on the train home about saying to him at some point on the trip back to BART, "Did you see that great fan?" and then remembering that he was the one who opened it up for me when I was trying to open it.) > I gave my camera to > Natalie and she snapped away all afternoon and filled up a 512 MB Don't forget the last few that were on the replacement card. I think the ones of Lorinda feeding Nathaniel might have been on that second card. I know you cussed me for all those duplicates and triplicates and quadruplets I kept shooting, but I got carried away by things like that group of babies and wanted to make sure that there was a good shot of them. So I just kept shooting and shooting and shooting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 00:14:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G5E3Wm032263 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:14:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:14:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063BED2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 1:14:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 800483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 01:14:03 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G5E2aH026109 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 01:14:02 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104264286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 15 May 2005 22:14:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050515221246.02a3b9d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:14:49 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: BIA In-Reply-To: <42882959.7040605@maynor.net> References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050515213646.0266d960@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42882959.7040605@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:02 PM 5/15/2005, you wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>Thanks for coming, Natalie! (She won the prize for the wordsler who came >>the furthest because it didn't work out for steph.) > >And what a wonderful prize it was! It is a super-neat Sumo fan -- I >don't mean the flat kind -- I mean the unfolding kind. (BB: Tell Ryan >that I was laughing on the train home about saying to him at some point >on the trip back to BART, "Did you see that great fan?" and then >remembering that he was the one who opened it up for me when I was >trying to open it.) > >> I gave my camera to >>Natalie and she snapped away all afternoon and filled up a 512 MB > >Don't forget the last few that were on the replacement card. I think >the ones of Lorinda feeding Nathaniel might have been on that second >card. I know you cussed me for all those duplicates and triplicates and >quadruplets I kept shooting, but I got carried away by things like that >group of babies and wanted to make sure that there was a good shot of >them. So I just kept shooting and shooting and shooting. You did good! We viewed all 300 today. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 02:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G7x1Wm012851 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 02:59:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 02:59:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C000@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 3:38:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 804484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 03:38:58 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G7cvLV002986 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 03:38:58 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2140846wri for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.2 with SMTP id 2mr3506768wrz; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 00:38:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EKM/phcglPDPfUmjnabBdIhTT8lSyA8UOuYNU7VeGliNWKfem3atFKMGAltOKReN9ndn1qPSaE5M3unZ+G+4+n76YxCA8NL38A8YLiuASoGQOiK4IrIzAllfHpXhED5Glc+MKdx8Q+nRL/XafeUBxIR4C3WmzO6J63Ff9DYzrGE= Message-ID: <8865866a0505160038d5f59fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:38:57 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BIA In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050515221246.02a3b9d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050515213646.0266d960@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42882959.7040605@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050515221246.02a3b9d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4G7cwLV002987 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wow! It was nice to see everyone and if anyone is in contact with Myles, tell him "Lookin' good!" from me. Marcia On 5/16/05, Betty F Clark wrote: > At 10:02 PM 5/15/2005, you wrote: > >Betty F Clark wrote: > > > >>Thanks for coming, Natalie! (She won the prize for the wordsler who came > >>the furthest because it didn't work out for steph.) > > > >And what a wonderful prize it was! It is a super-neat Sumo fan -- I > >don't mean the flat kind -- I mean the unfolding kind. (BB: Tell Ryan > >that I was laughing on the train home about saying to him at some point > >on the trip back to BART, "Did you see that great fan?" and then > >remembering that he was the one who opened it up for me when I was > >trying to open it.) > > > >> I gave my camera to > >>Natalie and she snapped away all afternoon and filled up a 512 MB > > > >Don't forget the last few that were on the replacement card. I think > >the ones of Lorinda feeding Nathaniel might have been on that second > >card. I know you cussed me for all those duplicates and triplicates and > >quadruplets I kept shooting, but I got carried away by things like that > >group of babies and wanted to make sure that there was a good shot of > >them. So I just kept shooting and shooting and shooting. > > You did good! We viewed all 300 today. > > Betty > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 03:39:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4G8d1Wm015871 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 03:39:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 03:39:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C054@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 4:39:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 04:39:00 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4G8d0Zn006237 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 04:39:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <200505160838590140033cj7e>; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:38:59 +0000 Message-ID: <42885C23.1060902@istori.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 01:38:59 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Happy Birthday + Retirement, Betty! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It was a fun party! It was wonderful to see everybody, and lovely in the backyard, where Words-L grabbed the best spot under the big plum tree. My photos are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterkaminski/tags/badbetty20050514/ I posted photos with people at a max resolution of 500 pixels, which ended up being my compromise between privacy and publicity; please let me know if you'd like me to mail you full resolution files (2048 x 1536, ~900Kb) and/or delete photos out of my photostream. Gwynnie enjoyed herself, and then we ended up going to another friends birthday party from 8:30 to midnight, where she mingled with and eventually outlasted the adults. Some photos from that party: http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterkaminski/tags/debs20050514/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/35468142410@N01/tags/debs20050514/ Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 06:50:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GBoNWm011848 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:50:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:50:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6A79A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 7:50:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:50:23 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GBeNV6008455 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:40:23 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4GBeAEQ001532 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:40:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:40:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: those little things Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for the suggestions - esp. yours, phil paxton. My carryon bag is new, so it contains nothing yet - and it may become a checked bag, so I must add another bag IF I carry a separate bag for the laptop, which I may not. Karen, why lists? I just have one list - I keep adding to it - the berlitz phrase book, buy a throwaway camera, think about a gift for my hostess (maybe an onboard dutyfree item - I know she drinks white wine, because I have seen a photo - at least she holds it in her hand), Now back to work - I need to lightly edit the PowerPoint file for the first lecture, then plan the second two and try to get at least one additional PowerPoint file drafted before I leave tomorrow. The program I am lecturing in is celebrating its 10th anniversary while I am there: http://www.iula.upf.es/agenda/age006ca.htm Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 06:54:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GBs2Wm012298 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:54:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:54:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C24B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 7:54:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:54:01 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GBi024008641 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:44:00 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4GBhnLK004092 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:43:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:44:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: the brake Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had to think for a bit about the emergency brake. My previous vehicle had only a small bin/container between the driver's seat and the front passenger seat. The emergency brake was on the left-hand side of the dash. But the emergency brake is between the driver's seat and the front passenger seat on this Forester I drive now. I assume that the contemplated emergency is failure of the conventional brakes. I use it occasionally when parking on steep grades - it should not be necessary, of course, if one parks properly - or when pausing briefly - with the engine running - on grades. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 07:22:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GCMcWm016583 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:22:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:22:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6A795@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 8:02:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 811290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:02:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GC2akU010337 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:02:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1801614nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 05:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.132.9 with SMTP id f9mr1484071nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 05:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 05:02:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DCVVc8bVwPlnSTMwlRvcD+t68oXO6lXyn524ZH/waOlp8nbQjMkentgZwMVjAw48D7w95e6LN6jbFGojX3VOkB54PAq93wsSj+xUyenJKw8CHwoecA0FJp9DS0WdSSjtS7S+BQSBQKUlrxsFAea4nEDxZj/Ddhyt3S2UK4v55IQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:02:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GCMcWm016583 On 5/16/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > Karen, why lists? I just have one list - I keep adding to it > - the berlitz phrase book, buy a throwaway camera, think about a gift for > my hostess (maybe an onboard dutyfree item - I know she drinks white wine, > because I have seen a photo - at least she holds it in her hand), Things I have to do before I leave, things I have to pack, things for the airplane (if you're locked in a flying tube for 12 hours, you want to think about how you're going to spend that time), things for when I'm there. If I have just one list, I am more likely to forget something, because its lack was not as apparent. Your list above would make me crazy. (I don't like it when food on my plate touches, either.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 07:33:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GCWpWm017827 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:32:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:33:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6A87E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 8:32:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 812703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:32:51 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GCWpXf013718 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:32:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063C217@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 8:32:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200505161232.j4GCWpXf013718@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:32:51 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: What do you call? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:51:08 -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 10:02 PM 5/15/2005, phil paxton wrote: >>emergency brake. > >Just out of curiosity---when was the last time you used that brake in an >emergency versus using it while parking? > >cwv the last time my brake line broke. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 07:40:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GCdsWm018843 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:39:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:40:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6A8C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 8:39:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:39:43 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GCdgY8014872 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:39:42 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.78]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516123942.QEJV13146.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net>; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:39:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.78]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516123942.BXYP8439.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]>; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:39:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4288948A.4040006@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:39:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group CC: myles@sonic.net Subject: Re: BIA References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050515213646.0266d960@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42882959.7040605@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050515221246.02a3b9d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8865866a0505160038d5f59fa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a0505160038d5f59fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >Wow! It was nice to see everyone and if anyone is in contact with >Myles, tell him "Lookin' good!" from me. > > I especially like this one: http://home.comcast.net/~bfclark2/Party/target33.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 07:55:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GCt6Wm020819 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:55:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:55:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6A8EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 8:55:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 814390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:55:06 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GCt3XX016906 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:55:04 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.78]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516125503.MOUE2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:55:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.78]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516125503.ECTR15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:55:03 -0400 Message-ID: <42889823.9090400@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:54:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >my hostess (maybe an onboard dutyfree item - I know she drinks white wine, > > Why not pre-onboard, where the selection is much larger? (I've also heard that the prices are lower at the airport shops than onboard, though I've never been enough of a duty-free shopper to do a comparison.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:12:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDCeWm023583 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:12:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:12:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063C203@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 8:52:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 814219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:52:40 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GCqdkO016599 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:52:39 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.78]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516125240.MMFX2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:52:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.78]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516125239.EBRX15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:52:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42889793.4080606@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:52:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Birthday + Retirement, Betty! References: <42885C23.1060902@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42885C23.1060902@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > I posted photos with people at a max resolution of 500 pixels, which > ended up being my compromise between privacy and publicity; please let > me know if you'd like me to mail you full resolution files (2048 x 1536, > ~900Kb) and/or delete photos out of my photostream. I'm impressed with the clarity of your pictures! As much as I hate seeing myself in a close-up picture, I did love that the little Central-Park trees actually show in this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterkaminski/14113240/ (I bought those earrings at a crafts fair at the southern tip of Central Park -- iow, at Columbus Circle. They are tiny photographs of trees in Central Park in winter. I like them very much -- so much that I was happy when a nice sales clerk at Macy's gave me a little rubber thingie to secure one of them when I discovered that I had lost one of the little rubber thingies while trying on clothes Thursday. I stopped at the jewelry counter to ask whether they sold little bags of rubber thingies, but they didn't. She said that they often found them on the floor, however. So she found one and gave it to me.) Speaking of earrings, I bought some at a shop in Fisherman's Wharf Friday -- a shop named Mud, Wind, and Fire. That was my favorite shop I went in. > Gwynnie enjoyed herself, and then we ended up going to another friends The knitters among you would be impressed that Gwynnie was sitting there knitting what is going to be a gorgeous scarf. (It was also impressive to non-knitters.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:12:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDCeWm023585 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:12:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:12:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C3D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 8:56:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 814556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:56:17 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GCuHl5017120 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:56:17 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.78]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516125617.MPXE2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:56:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.78]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516125617.EDHL15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:56:17 -0400 Message-ID: <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 07:56:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >(I don't like it when food on my plate touches, either.) > > Didn't your parents convince you in childhood that "it all runs together in your stomach anyway"? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:12:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDCeWm023587 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:12:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:12:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063C268@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:06:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 815593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:06:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GD6MkP018949 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:06:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2229267wri for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.17 with SMTP id o17mr3690677wrc; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:06:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JXsPhhPrFEP5lZEsQjTm4s14oGbOQH2+h+nPTEAFEVchWpcuYxaSIho3UeQxod1cy0a/ttSDKJRTbhgSPWuwM71u1N8SFgsZxwcJeNKdFxoDyTCWPS+VbR82b6p8AptaFQ6gqKRHaGNZpdwzjxSzE7vexrmGrd1uEGqX9cGnzdk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:06:22 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BIA In-Reply-To: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GDCeWm023587 I know two girls who would have been a great addition to this shot! http://home.comcast.net/~bfclark2/Party/target20.html Nathaniel is such a handsome boy! -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:17:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDGgWm024095 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:16:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:17:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063C3B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:16:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 816586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:16:42 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GDGgbS020747 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:16:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2232760wri for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.13.14 with SMTP id 14mr3703859wrm; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:16:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YSTyLzKH7WeNejfaYoGZq9ktkWpUtjvnZBmJFAa4+9sRwvbFtcRUP+lDTPkPTDo/HXgGRovL9pXfUE2juo4jI2c8l6FvVdYWUsURZLrc9Z6Z47SdO7Q/06np52MyNOVdZdZKbea1SJpD/soQddd/GnpDvgtQX7FJlIUghzQA4nc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:16:41 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know In-Reply-To: <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GDGgWm024095 On 5/15/05, phil paxton wrote: > > There are too many loopholes & loose-ends to do this, but I thought it > would be interesting to have "IllEatAnything.com" > (it's still in my > idea journal[1]). Not the same thing, but have you seen, "Steve, don't eat it!" ? http://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/cat_steve_dont_eat_it.php -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:27:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDRQWm025604 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:27:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C479@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:19:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 816820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:19:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GDJrZG021195 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:19:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2233802wri for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.31 with SMTP id n31mr3698368wrn; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:19:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gOsptfiFt2WQxQSn0Z5NQE5hRkEZJwyuu6vA/54pAzuRP499cvo1fa/OoDP3je7N/GojhZL0AO0DyS+4LNwZSPmXVOCPxlvbq6osVxKmse8o5RpUgxor0tEhsMU6OfznyCWee3vj1wTcjaceFHxbJy4pknVCnDepbDpIreMqXOw= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:19:53 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <462271950505151842375344f0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <462271950505151842375344f0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GDRQWm025604 Yep, Colby picking Tina over Jerri was a huge gaffe. But Tom had it made -- Katie was at least as despicable as Ian. I think more so. Marie On 5/15/05, phil paxton wrote: > > My strategy > > If Tom were smart, he'd be trying to keep Ian on the island right now. > If you watch the jury, collectively rolling their eyes every time he > talks, Tom vs. Ian would be a no-brainer. > > That's been one of the major strategic errors in previous series - > picking the wrong opponent at the end. > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:27:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDRQWm025600 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:27:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063C2AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:17:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 816628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:26 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GDHQNG020836 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:26 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.78]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516131725.QWST13146.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.78]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516131725.CMHI8439.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42889D61.7040305@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:17:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BIA References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >I know two girls who would have been a great addition to this shot! > http://home.comcast.net/~bfclark2/Party/target20.html > >Nathaniel is such a handsome boy! > > And it would've been fun for us to get to see the first meeting of Nathaniel and his future girlfriend(s) and to see them fighting over who gets him! BB: I never did get the family tree totally straight. Is Anthony the son of your nephew who recently returned from Iraq? I enjoyed the conversation with that group right before I left -- that group standing around the talking about California real estate and taxes and stuff. It was in that conversation that I realized who your back-from-Iraq nephew was since he mentioned that he was about to be sent to Ohio and that he had recently returned from Iraq. I loved the way the expensive-slate-roof man in the cowboy boots leaned over and shook his hand when he mentioned having been in Iraq -- no words said, just that simple gesture. It was neat. I liked everybody at the party and wish I'd gotten to talk to some of them more, but we Wordslers needed to catch up, especially those who have been absent from the list for a long time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:27:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDRQWm025606 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:27:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:27:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C49D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:25:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:25:28 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GDPSR5022050 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:25:28 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2235638wri for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.8 with SMTP id p8mr2576438wra; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:25:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b1JDxun4lq7JuaYhp47s8IscBtGJEqxzCGBhlJXmNjhCRuIP4CBINL2lhYqGaB3myTRC2q3mFcPVZkQPcwzyVn6dKan9a2G56jhl+rcqm0HH+MccSt6pJP9FgCsKhpJZbYexmBVs0avN3ozKkJQxFuc2ZOcETAyoE4N2imicfNw= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:25:28 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Peter Kaminski has RSVP'd for A Retirement/Birthday Party (fwd) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <001401c558d1$9a09f480$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GDRQWm025606 Oh my god! Borkin hates Maureen! (How is good ole Maureen?) Marie On 5/15/05, Ann Borkin wrote: > > On Sat, 14 May 2005, Doris Markland wrote: > > Well, if anyone sees him, please ask him to > > check in and just bring us up to date on what > > he's doing. Thanx. > > SocialText has 10 people and they're hiring 10 more. Sounds good. > > Gwinnie (sp?) has grown! She looks very, I don't know, -together-. > Graceful. > > I like Pete. > > It was a happy party. Words-l people stuck tight in an introverted > circle, but that suited me fine. I -did- meet a couple of Betty's > friends, whom I liked at first exchange. > > Hell, I liked everybody! Each person seemed so, well like each person > should be. I didn't get to talk much to Bad Betty, so who knows, maybe I > wouldn't have liked her so much. > > Edward's chili is really really good: kind of bitter, then kind of sweet, > then kind of hot, and all through those sensations very tasting good > [ungrammar on purpose] > > I even met Larry's father! And I like him too, and he even remembered my > name. > > Janet may enroll in a graphics design program. I hope she does. I like > Janet! > > Myles was there, like Buddha under the tree! Gosh I like Myles! > > Natalie was so regular and non-mutant! I really like Natalie! > > You get the picture. I'm sorry I left too early for the group hug. > > Ann > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:27:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDRQWm025603 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:27:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063C2B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:17:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 816679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:54 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GDHsgZ020913 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:54 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.78]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516131754.QWYT13146.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.78]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516131753.CMMN8439.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:17:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does Natalie know what? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:33:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDX0Wm026326 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:33:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:33:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6AA94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:33:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:32:59 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GDWwiU023537 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:32:59 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 60422098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:32:58 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050516063306.02a01a00@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 06:33:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Happy Birthday + Retirement, Betty! In-Reply-To: <42889793.4080606@maynor.net> References: <42885C23.1060902@istori.com> <42889793.4080606@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >The knitters among you would be impressed that Gwynnie was sitting there >knitting what is going to be a gorgeous scarf. (It was also impressive >to non-knitters.) > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I didn't think she was being rude either. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:34:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDYjWm026619 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:34:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:34:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6AAA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:34:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:34:45 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GDYiM3023924 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:34:44 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 60422463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:34:43 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050516063452.02a68270@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 06:35:32 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: BIA In-Reply-To: References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That would have been so much fun to add them. We did think about them, of course. Betty At 06:06 AM 5/16/2005, you wrote: >I know two girls who would have been a great addition to this shot! > http://home.comcast.net/~bfclark2/Party/target20.html > >Nathaniel is such a handsome boy! > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 08:37:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GDbDWm026973 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:37:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:37:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C4F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:37:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:37:13 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GDbCNl024336 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:37:12 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 60423032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:37:11 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050516063654.02a3a870@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 06:38:00 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: BIA In-Reply-To: <42889D61.7040305@maynor.net> References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> <42889D61.7040305@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:17 AM 5/16/2005, you wrote: >Marieber Meeber wrote: > >>I know two girls who would have been a great addition to this shot! >>http://home.comcast.net/~bfclark2/Party/target20.html >> >>Nathaniel is such a handsome boy! >> >And it would've been fun for us to get to see the first meeting of >Nathaniel and his future girlfriend(s) and to see them fighting over who >gets him! > >BB: I never did get the family tree totally straight. Is Anthony the >son of your nephew who recently returned from Iraq? Yes, and he was so good for only being four. He is a adorable. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 09:08:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GE8NWm031520 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:08:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:08:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C562@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:59:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:59:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GDx3Y2028402 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:59:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2243187wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.6 with SMTP id x6mr3583499wrc; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:59:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FFMOO1xJRhauoshmcOlb4EiRgEqV2GKe2n9UfZh8McnALuur+ktWDD+PUjWm40Ppn41k1aREj4t2MrO+HKt+ibmNxIKHPBtAJ8zAXKNI0a2KQZAuGPwuMlOHUyn5kCKlbt8KE0TdquBEc2hVftbfLhv1kYg2hJNu5A+m+FHIvyY= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:59:03 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know In-Reply-To: <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GE8NWm031520 > > Does Natalie know what? > -- Natalie That the three hour finale of Survivor was last night. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 09:08:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GE8NWm031521 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:08:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:08:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063C3B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:02:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:02:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GE29qD028984 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:02:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1843144nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.10 with SMTP id s10mr1576548nzc; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QBMENRn2+JRjEZYLDr7Yt3ywM6vmTaa2tf5B5DYeN6qQlYHBcy4pRsXEqzYBqLjvM9zLiZjzi0ul+b+l6ZAyntwioOI2GxyN3pzmC2C7U30MGi1GyunmtCJFCDJpVXpy+CzK+b5pE/MN5BSxEolnTIbfHs3dCR7OFzccCU2I4dg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051607024682041a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:02:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <462271950505151842375344f0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GE8NWm031521 More so. On 5/16/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > Yep, Colby picking Tina over Jerri was a huge gaffe. > But Tom had it made -- Katie was at least as despicable as Ian. I think > more so. > Marie > > On 5/15/05, phil paxton wrote: > > > > My strategy > > > > If Tom were smart, he'd be trying to keep Ian on the island right now. > > If you watch the jury, collectively rolling their eyes every time he > > talks, Tom vs. Ian would be a no-brainer. > > > > That's been one of the major strategic errors in previous series - > > picking the wrong opponent at the end. > > > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 09:08:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GE8NWm031519 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:08:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:08:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063C3A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 9:58:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:58:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GDwM9i028220 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:58:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2242916wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.160.8 with SMTP id i8mr3621756wre; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 06:58:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uo3MjBiNHM1T3bq8T3xCQrM3bSjDUGJy4B/ytk2j2S+wVQgLt2Fdacf1TFC9mcmZJ5Vacxp5MLQcqoPmOZ2LGt9nPnw3b4wikVHku8WlGg8RH+QC3nkfmqnRf/GGCxxB6EeHgUNICWpKvVy2MwC/Ed0aPqo6nFEHwkh/P+DCv88= Message-ID: <44dce1c10505160658722d9661@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:58:21 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: Joan Boorstein Subject: Re: Our baby chicks have arrived Cc: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In-Reply-To: <200505141956.j4EJua7h017466@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505141956.j4EJua7h017466@math.umb.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GDwM9i028221 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU HP1 is quite happy with all the chicks. She brings them into the fenced yard and then back to the coop. She pecks and then they peck, quite cute. She kept flipping the chick food dish, so I went and got an official feeder which she immediately tried out. HP2 is still sitting although she took the opportunity of yesterday's warm weather to hang with the group for a while. HP3 is still AWOL. Will found a clutch of eggs in the fenced yard, but no hen. I thought I saw her for a few seconds, but didn't go out immediately and confirm and then - no hen. The hopeful news is that no sightings of lost feathers etc. have been found. I suspect if she had been taken there would be signs. The cats don't have access to the chicks which is good as Lucky caught a baby bird this am. Naughty kitten. He however scooted across the yard yesterday like someone was after him and I turned to see a turkey hen in the yard. Terry On 5/14/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > Update needed --- any further hatchings? Are the mother hens continuing to > accept the hatchlings hatched in the basement? How are the cats adjusting? > > Joan > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 09:13:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GEDQWm032206 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:13:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:13:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6AB9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:03:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:03:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GE3PiJ029200 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:03:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1843628nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.132.9 with SMTP id f9mr1533117nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:03:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Inix5vGEdJwoD6EOnhcOaAe9hzJV+awq3KN+0Z00NIx8hHJrM2sD/3i42GRxjSAIrD5xGMXruri2kdOIut2jCw+tnpfy5ruFeSiVDJ0jY8ctZMqbKGg+bDf2pfFpHvEik8CAD+ezoLUL6zihm4tmdwmslR0yrj+IhMHM+Ej4dzc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:03:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GEDQWm032206 On 5/16/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >(I don't like it when food on my plate touches, either.) > > > > > Didn't your parents convince you in childhood that "it all runs together > in your stomach anyway"? > I don't remember this being an issue when I was a child. I think it developed post-Japan, because in Japan everything has its own plate--food does NOT run together. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 09:15:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GEFZWm032502 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:15:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:15:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063C44B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:15:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:15:35 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GEFYxm031086 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:15:35 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2254461wri for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.8 with SMTP id p8mr2599845wra; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:15:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KJVALJ3pMNfnF7s2OtR9iw9lsY6Yg1WTk+a7tomY6B0Qpkt7g0RbjkCjk/dNRXA6l+iAmC+gNXqsXHCIISup3aSlc51huDBZvv5rZ39P0bnSR/5jJjFltqm53GfgIVc8LbsZKNNOpzxgnHCFRZx5IGQS+LMnvK0U9q1P9qMwveo= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:15:34 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GEFZWm032502 *uc* likes separate plates for sides. I like my food in intermingle. If it doesn't taste good together, I usually don't cook them as part of the same meal/course. Marie On 5/16/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 5/16/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > >(I don't like it when food on my plate touches, either.) > > > > > > > > Didn't your parents convince you in childhood that "it all runs together > > in your stomach anyway"? > > > > I don't remember this being an issue when I was a child. I think it > developed post-Japan, because in Japan everything has its own plate--food > does NOT run together. > > Karen > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 09:17:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GEHWWm032673 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C610@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:17:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:17:32 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GEHWKu031486 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:17:32 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 00B647772D188 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000f01c55a21$fab677d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: those little things Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:17:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >(I don't like it when food on my plate touches, either.) I don't remember this being an issue when I was a child. I think it developed post-Japan, because in Japan everything has its own plate--food does NOT run together. Karen Through the years I've seen some kids in a family have this and others don't, without rhyme or reason, which makes me think it isn't a learned response. But a lot of kids don't want their food to touch, and they are vehement about it. I never understood it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 09:36:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GEaBWm001811 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:36:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:36:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C681@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:36:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 823630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:36:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GEaAsI002141 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:36:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1858620nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.119.12 with SMTP id r12mr1579010nzc; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 07:36:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ckx8u3gcmKtU7180IIUaDW1Rr6OvIztAoOZHqj9YQ1WyYw0u9IRFBQnwPnJr0/YJwuz+tcmlX3HK2XRs2kHc2XIH6ehfZja4CDvhtW1uqjed5plqidYPWQH9X2lcE6jtHQLqgqxvHSTGwkEc9nTSWQ0FhVQ5F6IMoFCN1/fqXr4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051607361ddb3c0d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:36:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <000f01c55a21$fab677d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c55a21$fab677d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GEaBWm001811 On 5/16/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > >(I don't like it when food on my plate touches, either.) > > I don't remember this being an issue when I was a child. I think it > developed post-Japan, because in Japan everything has its own plate--food > does NOT run together. > > Karen > > Through the years I've seen some kids in a family have this and > others don't, without rhyme or reason, which makes me think > it isn't a learned response. But a lot of kids don't want their > food to touch, and they are vehement about it. I never understood it. I am not a kid, but basically, I don't like it when the juice for something gets all over something else it wasn't designed to be on. . > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 10:12:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GFBuWm006583 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:11:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:12:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063C644@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:01:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 825877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:01:56 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GF1nX2007570 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:01:49 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 431AEBE8C5; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CBEC2849 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:01:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Peter Kaminski has RSVP'd for A Retirement/Birthday Party (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 16 May 2005, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Oh my god! Borkin hates Maureen! > (How is good ole Maureen?) > Marie I like Maureen! I didn't use to, much, but I do now. Ann > > On 5/15/05, Ann Borkin wrote: > > > > On Sat, 14 May 2005, Doris Markland wrote: > > > Well, if anyone sees him, please ask him to > > > check in and just bring us up to date on what > > > he's doing. Thanx. > > > > SocialText has 10 people and they're hiring 10 more. Sounds good. > > > > Gwinnie (sp?) has grown! She looks very, I don't know, -together-. > > Graceful. > > > > I like Pete. > > > > It was a happy party. Words-l people stuck tight in an introverted > > circle, but that suited me fine. I -did- meet a couple of Betty's > > friends, whom I liked at first exchange. > > > > Hell, I liked everybody! Each person seemed so, well like each person > > should be. I didn't get to talk much to Bad Betty, so who knows, maybe I > > wouldn't have liked her so much. > > > > Edward's chili is really really good: kind of bitter, then kind of sweet, > > then kind of hot, and all through those sensations very tasting good > > [ungrammar on purpose] > > > > I even met Larry's father! And I like him too, and he even remembered my > > name. > > > > Janet may enroll in a graphics design program. I hope she does. I like > > Janet! > > > > Myles was there, like Buddha under the tree! Gosh I like Myles! > > > > Natalie was so regular and non-mutant! I really like Natalie! > > > > You get the picture. I'm sorry I left too early for the group hug. > > > > Ann > > > > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 10:37:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GFb2Wm009853 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:37:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:37:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C829@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:37:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:37:02 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GFb1hn015407 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:37:01 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103330923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:37:01 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:37:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I don't remember this being an issue when I was a child. I think it >developed post-Japan, because in Japan everything has its own plate--food >does NOT run together. > >Karen Ryan is like that. The ice cream does not go on top of the cake. It needs a separate bowl. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 10:39:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GFdeWm010185 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:39:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:39:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6AF85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:29:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 829245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:29:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GFTd2l013848 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:29:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1884653nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.132.9 with SMTP id f9mr1584302nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:29:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=jARg28eovx7++f+Ix0Ha053gjnpIUQNlgXEKePlsvouo5+6Gi6U3XwegEXvOAFve4TUu+Ku0iBXvtL0XSSVsHnDy3tHyfUvnYsCg/lv4SjWhPQhM0GdJoMdIEoHK09+BbuTkJUXp6uhK5Q8NPAcfQqtRTSsCRBJXRsJmAn+NuYY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505160829da08364@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:29:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: This is so cool Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GFdeWm010185 This *exactly* decribes Nanook--the part on personality is last. I do love the trill. http://www.pinecoon.com/about_MCs.htm#What%20colors%20do%20Maine%20Coons%20come%20in ? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 10:43:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GFhGWm010600 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:43:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:43:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063C68F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:43:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:43:15 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GFhF2M016413 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:43:15 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 1695DBE8C8; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067A9C2849 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:43:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: v/r Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been asked what v/r means when it's at the end of an e-mail and in the slot where normally you'd find best regards, etc. Of course I'm guessing "very respectfully" and maybe it's a Hong Kong English convention or something like that - but I have to answer with something better than guesses. Ever seen it? Know what it means? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 10:59:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GFxfWm013018 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:59:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:59:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063C89E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:57:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 831480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:57:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GFvmv8018511 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:57:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1899567nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr1620849nzh; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:57:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NdmoDSVJ4M+X++/aDm8v4dUu8SOJFSYc8qkojGPY7fAds2ACqRC14NxgsSALycqyMAnNttjq8wxdSGpiLZJQeG1pHjKpeLFUa4A8ROxw+eUQfe5YWHDRcnxXP4xfLtgdQYufwWvMXb1fTwkrB29EVtQdIYXA2zS8fDNu4QK6RLE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:57:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GFxfWm013018 On 5/16/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > >I don't remember this being an issue when I was a child. I think it > >developed post-Japan, because in Japan everything has its own plate--food > >does NOT run together. > > > >Karen > > Ryan is like that. The ice cream does not go on top of the cake. It > needs a separate bowl. > Oh, that doesn't bother me--I know they were meant to be together. It's things like having salad and lasagna on the same plate that drive me crazy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 10:59:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GFxfWm013016 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:59:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:59:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063C7BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:49:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:49:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GFnaVA017439 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:49:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so969983nzp for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.147.8 with SMTP id u8mr1677582nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 08:49:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PDXn06HFHD+8TSXkSOdLeRPw4fhE7mTilLC4x3t6sShh2tJco0c1g2COYKs3j/mRnQMyIMb0/yK09f4uoT5QdkcaR6aIXBGBq0c7HBmDMdwhe9GQQiUr9Vm1ZbQNWzejmgY+MBu7sV1gbs8DMnor144JK7lNgxXUdl1Ld0b64cU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:49:36 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: I'm back Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GFnbVA017444 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We made it back to Tampa, drove to Miami for my stepniece's wedding, put in a brief appearance at the annual party where we met, and went to Stuart. I took my BIL geocaching, since there's a cache a quarter-mile from his house, and helped him set up a gmail account and a geocaching username. Just what the Internet needs: more teenagers. We took Jodi's mom out to dinner as a late Mother's Day present, and the next day we finally left for Tampa again, where I am now. I discovered this morning that I am registered for a Microsoft course in Active Directory. It's 6pm-10pm, across the bay, two nights a week. My gracious employer is letting me pick my schedule so that I don't have to leave home at 8am and come home at 11pm too often. (I registered for the class before leaving town, and left a note for my supervisor saying "This starts the day after I return, so if you want to get me trained on this, please arrange payment with the college." Thus I didn't know until today whether I was registered.) Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 11:26:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GGQPWm016203 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:26:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:26:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063C798@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:26:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:26:25 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GGQOJQ023197 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:26:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2305788wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.49.9 with SMTP id w9mr3704253wrw; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 09:26:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IWF/TjNeaIA/VEyUnbMu/HZtkRIHuQ6NS46AF7pPAUAnRX1dRiWA+Y28VGP2KtnJsVByfA3Dtppq+/K48ZrMILuG13cmF+ctALDJEFqAZyT+cSzZASXfIx9edKKFsbhTHTmZqRZbDyde6GTV1etGb3+MlaYmWNj7/8T0Es5XVLs= Message-ID: <462271950505160926e2eb0f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:26:24 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GGQPJQ023204 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/16/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >(I don't like it when food on my plate touches, either.) > Didn't your parents convince you in childhood that "it all runs together > in your stomach anyway"? So we can drop your meal in a blender and pour it on your plate? That's starting to sound so Jim Rose. Only one or two steps away. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 12:24:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GHOTWm024495 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:24:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:24:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6B3A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:14:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 837808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:14:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GHERgg030168 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:14:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1940233nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr1686860nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:14:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bSRJOK4tNyP2WJVwrvfjdVD3T1dPR1Oi7bNZJChN1fbCxXrUUpZIL0RTxYJv72gEyKw7VSurjplhfvzzslYYyLidqMVDxKrS4+YOXAejdeOGfiD1XCPJTDJeUEpHYa9qjFBvbFMqiV7nNAYO0LKA2LIoVGEwgK041gv2cuVQJ5k= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:14:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Even cooler Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GHOTWm024495 "Interestingly, the breed closest to the Maine Coon is the Norwegian Forest Cat which, although geographically distant, evolved in much the same climate, and lends credence to the theory that some of the cats responsible for developing the Maine Coon were brought over by the Vikings." http://www.fanciers.com/breed-faqs/maine-coon-faq.html#FAQ The reason I started looking up Maine Coons was partly because of the rings on Nanook's tail, but also because her fur is not like any other longhaired fur I've seen. There are no guard hairs; it's pretty much all the same length. The fanciers web site says it's like the fur of no other cat. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 12:27:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GHRPWm024836 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:27:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:27:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CAB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:27:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 838909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:27:21 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GHRKMu032484 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:27:20 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6B3DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:27:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200505161727.j4GHRKMu032484@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:27:19 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: v/r To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 16 May 2005 08:43:14 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >I've been asked what v/r means when it's at the end of an e-mail and in >the slot where normally you'd find best regards, etc. > >Of course I'm guessing "very respectfully" and maybe it's a Hong Kong >English convention or something like that - but I have to answer with >something better than guesses. > >Ever seen it? Know what it means? > >Ann "Veuillez Regarder"? ("Please look at ...") Not sure. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 12:34:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GHYrWm025569 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:34:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:34:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CA38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:34:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 839615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:34:53 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GHYpxJ001594 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:34:51 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 4FD20BE8C3; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3767BC2849 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: v/r In-Reply-To: <200505161727.j4GHRKMu032484@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 16 May 2005, Mrs. Williams wrote: > > "Veuillez Regarder"? > > ("Please look at ...") > I've just learned that the e-mails v/r is being seen in are from the military. (And not the Foreign Legion so I guess it's got to be English). Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 12:35:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GHZ1Wm025604 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:35:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:35:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CAEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:35:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 839641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:35:01 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GHYxtk001654 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:34:59 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6B466@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:34:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200505161734.j4GHYxtk001654@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:34:59 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: v/r To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GHYxtk001655 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>I've been asked what v/r means when it's at the end of an e-mail and in >>the slot where normally you'd find best regards, etc. >> >>Of course I'm guessing "very respectfully" and maybe it's a Hong Kong >>English convention or something like that - but I have to answer with >>something better than guesses. >> >>Ever seen it? Know what it means? >> >>Ann > > >"Veuillez Regarder"? > >("Please look at ...") > >Not sure. > >Amy AH! According to this, it's a power-and-status e-thingie: Long URL: https://134.11.61.26/CD8/Publications/FORSCOM/FORSCOM%20HQ%20Memo/FORSCOM% 20HQ%20Memo%201-11%20Change3%2019990808.pdf "d. Notes from a division chief to the head of a directorate should conclude with the complementary closing of"Respectfully" ("R”) or “Very Respectfully” (“V/R”). If a note is to go from a directorate head to a person of higher rank the complimentary closing of the note should also be "Very Respectfully" or "V/R." V/R Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 12:53:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GHr6Wm027896 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:53:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:53:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CB18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:43:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 840312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:43:05 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GHgsbU003115 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:42:54 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6B4C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:42:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200505161742.j4GHgsbU003115@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:42:54 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: v/r To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 16 May 2005 10:34:51 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Mon, 16 May 2005, Mrs. Williams wrote: > >> >> "Veuillez Regarder"? >> >> ("Please look at ...") >> >I've just learned that the e-mails v/r is being seen in are from the >military. > >(And not the Foreign Legion so I guess it's got to be English). > >Ann Indeed. I was making a feeble (inaccurate, as it were) connection to language-and- context-barrier breaking usage of "RSVP." V/R Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 12:53:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GHr6Wm027897 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:53:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:53:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063C977@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:48:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 840743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:48:05 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GHm5aR003920 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:48:05 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id C04C8BE8C7; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54ACC2849 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 10:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:48:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: v/r In-Reply-To: <200505161734.j4GHYxtk001654@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 16 May 2005, Mrs. Williams wrote: > "d. Notes from a division chief to the head of a directorate should > conclude with the complementary closing of"Respectfully" ("R”) or “Very > Respectfully” (“V/R”). If a note is to go from a directorate head to a > person of higher rank the complimentary closing of the note should also > be "Very Respectfully" or "V/R." > > > V/R Thanks - I got there too but you beat me. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 12:53:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GHr8Wm027905 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:53:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:53:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6B4B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:43:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 840323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:43:08 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GHh4wl003129 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:43:04 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:43:03 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:42:46 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: those little things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It all dpends on how hungry I am and how much I paid for the meal. A free meal when I'm hungry - I don't care. It can all run together. A pricey meal out - I want separate dishes. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/16/2005 11:57:48 AM >>> It's things like having salad and lasagna on the same plate that drive me crazy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:15:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIF7Wm030927 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:15:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:15:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6B56E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:15:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 842496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:15:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIF3Em007618 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:15:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2358971wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.19 with SMTP id f19mr3742141wrb; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:15:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZL8GJKk3U+lL/KusGWQHkNLjNmUn7EcpfUTe7mCJRtHHDN0nG4Og/uFsZkR4QD6+vaMslxhyPROduCqIdiEM3/QPmNk+PuM75nuzyPAEgsLqi1W5SIFGoRlobW7ha4eBPp7LAoYY501qJXX12Vd0Bbi8LsnOwr7/LzGCxC6A/T0= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:15:02 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know In-Reply-To: <4288E1F0.9030402@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> <4288E1F0.9030402@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GIF7Wm030927 > > Uh oh. I need to alert my friends in France and Spain that I won't be > taping the next two weeks for them and that the tape they left set won't > be taping the right thing. I assume that the tape I made of Thursday > worked. I haven't tried it yet. Should I watch it? Was it > interesting? Who were the final two, and who won? I lost interest when > my choice for winner (Steph) was ousted. -- Natalie It's probably worth watching that Thursday night's show. It is what set up the final. I didn't think the final two hours were all that great. Maybe I was in a bad mood. I didn't even bother to watch the reuion show. The final two were Tom and Katie. Tom kept winning immunity. Tom won the million dollars. I thought the question and answer period was especially mean-spirited. I didn't think either Tom or Katie were all that awful. But the other players seemed to think so and told them so in no uncertain terms. It was ugly. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:17:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIHHWm031268 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CB0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:09:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 842048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:09:56 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GI9uPb006927 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:09:56 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516180956.ZQXJ2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:09:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516180956.IHNJ1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:09:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4288E1F0.9030402@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:09:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>Does Natalie know what? >>-- Natalie >> >> > > That the three hour finale of Survivor was last night. > > Uh oh. I need to alert my friends in France and Spain that I won't be taping the next two weeks for them and that the tape they left set won't be taping the right thing. I assume that the tape I made of Thursday worked. I haven't tried it yet. Should I watch it? Was it interesting? Who were the final two, and who won? I lost interest when my choice for winner (Steph) was ousted. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:17:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIHHWm031269 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CBCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:11:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 842229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:11:44 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIBggb007171 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:11:42 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516181142.ZSXG2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:11:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516181141.IIDO1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:11:41 -0400 Message-ID: <4288E259.3060705@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:11:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Didn't your parents convince you in childhood that "it all runs together >>in your stomach anyway"? >> >> >I don't remember this being an issue when I was a child. I think it > > I remember seeing those divided plates and lusting after them. I can't remember now where I saw them -- at friends' houses maybe? Somewhere. Anyway, I kept telling my parents that I wanted a plate like that -- a plate that kept the food separate. And they would say that "it all runs together in your stomach anyway." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:17:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIHHWm031267 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CB09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:09:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 842035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:09:51 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GI9pwv006909 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:09:51 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2356502wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.160.8 with SMTP id i8mr3735562wre; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:09:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Fl9ldHku+43d0G3Tj6M1fsoB8rPpT77k8G3GPFjoxKUr7k7xsPvvaTQe27yhpC+b9EPVBLEnR2Bi1oNkxvNivpWrhudBcbSSF0fu13eNdJsdAbL+9bF/HF1w/v1RoCkenAhoqO17RSjpS+h5S+RxCtTVOKaVx4Ybm09xBCIzszA= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:09:47 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GIHHWm031267 Why does all this excite you so much? Our youngest cat is a Maine Coon also. She was a wonderful, loving, beautiful kitten. Now she is developing some not-so-nice qualities. I've never met a more stubborn cat. And she is very demanding. I wish we had never taught her how to walk on a leash. She demands two and even three walks a day. It's tiresome to hear her whining voice. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:17:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIHHWm031261 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CAF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:07:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 841819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:07:16 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GI7G79006524 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:07:16 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516180716.ZNZH2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:07:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516180716.IGPN1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:07:16 -0400 Message-ID: <4288E14F.1080303@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:07:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Birthday + Retirement, Betty! References: <42885C23.1060902@istori.com> <42889793.4080606@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050516063306.02a01a00@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050516063306.02a01a00@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > I didn't think she was being rude either. No, she wasn't. She had the good graces to choose the appropriate time to knit. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:17:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIHHWm031263 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CAFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:07:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 841855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:07:57 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GI7vEY006594 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:07:57 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516180757.ZOSC2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:07:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516180757.IGVQ1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:07:57 -0400 Message-ID: <4288E179.8060509@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:07:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BIA References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> <42889D61.7040305@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050516063654.02a3a870@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050516063654.02a3a870@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Yes, and he was so good for only being four. He is a adorable. Yes, he was, and yes, he is. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:17:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIHHWn031268 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CB2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:13:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 842390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:13:19 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIDJNO007407 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:13:19 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516181319.ZUUF2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:13:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516181318.IITD1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:13:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:13:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >*uc* likes separate plates for sides. I like my food in intermingle. If it >doesn't taste good >together, I usually don't cook them as part of the same meal/course. > > I also like intermingling. Sometimes in the MSU cafeteria they put the vegetables in separate bowls, but I usually notice what's happening and ask them just to dump the stuff on the plate instead. If I don't notice in time, then I do it at the table. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:17:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIHHWn031263 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CB2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:14:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 842461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:14:56 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIEuvm007586 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:14:56 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516181456.ZWNC2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:14:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516181455.IJJH1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:14:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4288E31B.90008@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:14:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: v/r References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: >Ever seen it? Know what it means? > > I don't remember ever having seen it, but my guess would be "virtual regards" -- except that the old "virtually yours" that seemed to be in e-mail years ago seems passe now. So I don't know. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:17:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIHHWn031269 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CBE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:16:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 842565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:16:30 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIGTjG007802 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:16:29 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516181629.ZYFT2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:16:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516181629.IJWY1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:16:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:16:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >the next day we finally left for Tampa again, where I am now. > > Do you know Bad Betty's Tampa friend? She was the person who came farthest for the party. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:28:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GISIWm032452 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CA64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:26:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 843467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:26:58 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIQvuE009538 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:26:57 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516182657.KEV2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:26:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516182657.INTA1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:26:57 -0400 Message-ID: <4288E5EC.8010101@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:26:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> <4288E1F0.9030402@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > The final two were Tom and Katie. Tom kept winning immunity. Tom won the >million dollars. I thought the question and answer period was especially >mean-spirited. I didn't think either Tom or Katie were all that awful. But >the other players seemed to think so and told them so in no uncertain terms. >It was ugly. > > I have no memory at all of who Katie was. So I guess I'm glad Tom won. Tom seemed ok to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:28:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GISIWm032449 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CBF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:18:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 842746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:18:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIIr9m008092 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:18:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1971856nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.13 with SMTP id a13mr1692640nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=g+n2RjJwBADs/E8Levbahgg2H0ad1X1H9O9/6GI7+GuYnEELqRHKIsNhZCSOQPtRLyXY+8tBbtOQWWeXvy8aNTOGuPjx+tNtkhPlrr+m2OnxI7PKlfxjNt++2oF96nXFhBnGZXQmMEAEoHIdDdVd7XHJKuRWYICK8JWOIkgcWwI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505161118460cffe7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:18:53 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GISIWm032449 On 5/16/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Why does all this excite you so much? Adoptive parent syndrome, I guess. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:28:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GISIWm032451 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CC17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:25:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 843289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:25:35 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIPY2F009175 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:25:35 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2363670wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.24 with SMTP id v24mr3755983wrv; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Rv8mIvkGpebrS14SOXJd55VaXb1WWlD5/dhi/QoJQHSS3SGGCE62N3xZ9u/CHyLJlwThJnOUpWjOobOgx3whFh7a/ZHUsIjAw8t/DX8ag4Fc9IX4b9wRnl3Cu0iMOIA/RIzthWPaGB4Awop7XxVoyklEiMITvllD7bvlt+Dci1I= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:25:34 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GISIWm032451 > > So she won't go out except on a leash? How old is this cat? > Karen > She's five-years-old. We don't allow her to go out except on a leash. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:28:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GISIWm032447 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CBEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:18:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 842674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:18:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIIH4J007996 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:18:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1971523nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.118.11 with SMTP id q11mr1698397nzc; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:18:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=i83oYQ065VM03v8MrjhJxS0hdkYg+/Z/iLtxvgWEwbeWRg8q8XpO0cfn/fVSqRu6IemB+r/rYaDJphlJoHGknBIRKIugGVvxz7JU15g8p72ESTjlQffezJQAQOk8cJkQmVAPMeUV9kD8MdY3b2/4L/gCImPbqvgSvvkYdGOO0Zk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:18:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GISIWm032447 On 5/16/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Why does all this excite you so much? Our youngest cat is a Maine Coon > also. > She was a wonderful, loving, beautiful kitten. Now she is developing some > not-so-nice qualities. I've never met a more stubborn cat. And she is very > demanding. I wish we had never taught her how to walk on a leash. She > demands two and even three walks a day. It's tiresome to hear her whining > voice. > So she won't go out except on a leash? How old is this cat? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:33:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIXEWm000314 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:33:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:33:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CA90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:33:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 844132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:33:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIXDiN010955 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:33:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1978417nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr1738149nzu; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DeNzdx+v3qk2Z/ZBz+sOFjtorwsSBfPH4b1GjvfhPE7W6H1zdBHALnym9WL+iJJbAv1shbl2WJBlemn4Vuyykdv4gBHWSAfq9ELf+xyPCEiGZbbiz6WsMO0hKWLg2gb3VYiGhRyhkGllNWsjt3XstxqrqhF6l2QPjVkL+kPBCXo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050516113349a869b7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:33:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GIXEWm000314 On 5/16/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > So she won't go out except on a leash? How old is this cat? > > Karen > > > She's five-years-old. We don't allow her to go out except on a leash. > These cats are very doglike in many ways, for reasons I don't fully understand. I think dogs whine about going out, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:51:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIpmWm003070 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:51:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:51:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CC13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:51:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 845825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:51:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIphvv014540 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:51:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2376112wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.53.8 with SMTP id b8mr3721506wra; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 11:51:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jOLZDsN8ebUt3H7+f72TTxlaIyOylizSIlNKZMChDEWFgrRStF+gXBJi6D6cnXElsf8j3u4cnLsHeMoFem6tv1fYNwfGTt243D88N/2LscBAUXQPPmi3Kqw7iednEXHQHC9tO3djfuEHVzayz/xTSzpFRtdNwRg+nDdPk6oH6/U= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050516115179bbe6aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:51:42 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: v/r In-Reply-To: <200505161734.j4GHYxtk001654@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505161734.j4GHYxtk001654@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GIphvv014542 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/16/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > AH! > > According to this, it's a power-and-status e-thingie: > > Long URL: > > https://134.11.61.26/CD8/Publications/FORSCOM/FORSCOM%20HQ%20Memo/FORSCOM% > 20HQ%20Memo%201-11%20Change3%2019990808.pdf > > > "d. Notes from a division chief to the head of a directorate should > conclude with the complementary closing of"Respectfully" ("R") or "Very > Respectfully" ("V/R"). If a note is to go from a directorate head to a > person of higher rank the complimentary closing of the note should also > be "Very Respectfully" or "V/R." > > > V/R > > Amy > I popped into a cow-orker's office who uses this and happens to be in the National Guard. Very Respectfully it is. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:55:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GItTWm003667 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:55:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:55:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CD10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:55:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 846590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:55:27 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GItQha015334 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:55:26 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 20112074 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:26:59 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 16 May 2005 11:55:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:53:23 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1492177498.20050516125323@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: DSL Q In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051521033e0a84c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050515204661849f18@mail.gmail.com> <839529894.20050515215617@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051521033e0a84c5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 195, in=71263, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/15/2005, 10:03 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> DSL comes in a variety of speeds. You get what you pay for. AFoA> Thanks for your input. Is the slower DSL annoyingly slow? Well, guess it all depends on what you're comparing it to. I remember when I thought 56K was pretty fast. Of course I started out at 300, then 1200, etc, etc.... Personally, I'd find 256K DSL slow. I run 1.5mb on cable modem at home, and 100mb to my desktop at work, with university net connection more than that. I think it also depends on what you're doing....downloading email, well, that'll almost always come down faster than I can read it, even at 256. But if you're looking at lots of fat graphics.... dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 13:59:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GIxNWm004082 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:59:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:59:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CB6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:59:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 846888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:59:22 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GIxMw7015907 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:59:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19976047 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:03:40 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 16 May 2005 11:59:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:57:20 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: those little things In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 200, in=81931, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/16/2005, 6:02 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> (I don't like it when food on my plate touches, either.) Oh, this could create quite a thread all by itself. I'm sure you know the potatoes and meat loaf touch each other inside of you, right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:12:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJCWWm005938 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:12:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:12:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CD39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:02:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 847088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:02:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJ2FK7016298 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:02:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1991597nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.42.13 with SMTP id p13mr1737099nzp; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:02:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=X+Zoy+ycxcqJiPOiaAA3w6sI3I39zUWHZdiYsGDV6EoLh+SrtLk3VYMv03wn084tZFuUxp4DT1fTJH4LJ0089OQ7Zg0gEmD922wxIdYUyPv5ykPCDh6d9VznJYn8XJUZH5ImwkIY3gmljlxFWXeeBmt7Ote0Rd3e4lPxjkyeiSI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050516120211812d78@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:02:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GJCWWm005938 On 5/16/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/16/2005, 6:02 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> (I don't like it when food on my plate touches, either.) > > Oh, this could create quite a thread all by itself. I'm sure you know > the potatoes and meat loaf touch each other inside of you, right? > Not inside of me--I never eat meatloaf. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:12:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJCWWn005938 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:12:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:12:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CC8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:04:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 847213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:04:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJ4Ban016551 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:04:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1138836nzp for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.141.7 with SMTP id o7mr1852385nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:04:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e+96i3/JBJ2trrmV83LCIXHx5QGqzRQZ7uw2S9X44rJyU78uCWYLYHqDFJvnbkkJIIkFphRn4vzUPOIYcNQz47eMa98LmI85ZP+2AJbkDkZi97Zhncw4eUSsCzhugCgW0Fg/II04fplj63ovAhMuergJee/NZDvREqCye6d7ZGc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:04:10 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GJ4Ban016552 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Do you know Bad Betty's Tampa friend? She was the person who came > farthest for the party. Maybe. Who is she? If Jodi goes to Southern Miss, will you and I be expected to root against each other? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:12:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJCWWo005938 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:12:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:12:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CB8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:04:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 847266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:04:35 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJ4YdW016612 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:04:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19976695 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:08:53 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 16 May 2005 12:04:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:02:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <327031999.20050516130233@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: those little things In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 200, in=81971, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/16/2005, 9:57 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> It's things like having salad and lasagna on the same plate that drive me AFoA> crazy. At least it is a short trip. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:12:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJCWWp005938 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:12:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:12:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CB94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:06:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 847396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:06:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJ65P5016817 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:06:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1993190nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.7 with SMTP id q7mr1736600nzq; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:06:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=f89naP5vgPQKwndR8NqjpZcOlZli7pL8/7YBabmpI3IWocwEshDSGT+nKW0uv5OaheycUIwYur0P5GXMRXPlVOuY6//NWcHi1VR+8TAQgfJMma7ebz7JH9VD9JgvMMaYXMf06rR0vjV1J25rqR6Xrs1dqzKjQolYJzy7HUikU78= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051612062ceef377@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:06:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GJCWWp005938 Ooh, time for a line of poetry from a friend: "You deaden us with received ideas." On 5/16/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > Do you know Bad Betty's Tampa friend? She was the person who came > > farthest for the party. > > Maybe. Who is she? > > If Jodi goes to Southern Miss, will you and I be expected to root > against each other? > > Ben > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:18:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJIrWm006680 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:18:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:18:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CD9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:18:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 848463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:18:53 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJIqEg018867 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:18:53 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050516191852015007hs7se>; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:18:52 +0000 Message-ID: <4288F21A.4000900@istori.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:18:50 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051612062ceef377@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051612062ceef377@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy writes, > Ooh, time for a line of poetry from a friend: "You deaden us with received > ideas." Bruce Newman, reviewing Star Wars III in the SJ Mercury News: "Lucas has an uncanny ability to turn even fine actors such as Portman and Samuel L. Jackson (Mace Windu) to stone...." But Newman generally liked the film. http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/entertainment/11645989.htm (free registration required) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:23:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJNnWm007176 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:23:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:23:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6B84E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:23:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 848760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:23:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJNm3R019670 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:23:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2001037nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr1754809nzh; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:23:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UFVnV0aeHjZTygB55Ah7nAOoywBNDXU6mMRZM3MVbKRQcp2XTPYtE6X0V8cBPGJi9Bax7YuhjfesU6MiBGURGapjR59QZnXzfFCHSmXcx/UW2RTaaYMTF8vN2TS9CQwZNY3vcP4KMp7m1dlPYyIkXEpnejOLP6JpaL52bCK275s= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051612232110e9fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:23:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <327031999.20050516130233@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <327031999.20050516130233@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GJNnWm007176 On 5/16/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/16/2005, 9:57 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> It's things like having salad and lasagna on the same plate that > drive me > AFoA> crazy. > > At least it is a short trip. > Ha. Ha. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:26:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJQlWm007383 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:26:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:26:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CC00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:26:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 848896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:26:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJQk3U020012 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:26:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1152225nzp for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.141.5 with SMTP id o5mr453434nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:26:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EhG0hi91LWpFuz9aiGPxn33ioPergTKPJat54U8HrUdi3u+rMltoyOmuHreeLroKYTZhbf0gHAZzS2ztMSvRz33QaV66V4t3nSY9GqByKqfzMF3qDOnKfMAlVu7RFikv7k0rqaah+c54v2CmJYZkFap2P9nfYP4ENotya0IrN5g= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:26:45 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4288F21A.4000900@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051612062ceef377@mail.gmail.com> <4288F21A.4000900@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GJQk3U020013 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But Newman generally liked the film. Any review that uses the term Ewok-infested is not cool with me. "Hair tumors" was a bit amusing anyway. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:31:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJUwWm007749 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:30:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:31:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CDD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:30:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 849252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:30:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJUvIK020531 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:30:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2004257nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.4 with SMTP id b4mr1785872nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:30:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oYAbXyCPHvzKdjDO2lY8ndZTq6vVw9zyMG68J0gtH37QkT0rEtE+cB0+ONvyjH49LnaMrlly1v3Wt4pwZhhRlelvr3tDs6WOR39mbQFKsyBXMJJKRvgmvqd/bl2vHX4KzTDony4drVqIw/y08k0Q2VOsBSScvvwWhe0YUKtyP/I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505161230a4bbc61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:30:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4288F21A.4000900@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051612062ceef377@mail.gmail.com> <4288F21A.4000900@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GJUwWm007749 I don't get the connection. My comment was about the idea that Ben and Natalie should have to root agains each other. Karen On 5/16/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > A Friend of Andy writes, > > > Ooh, time for a line of poetry from a friend: "You deaden us with > received > > ideas." > > Bruce Newman, reviewing Star Wars III in the SJ Mercury News: "Lucas has > an uncanny ability to turn even fine actors such as Portman and Samuel > L. Jackson (Mace Windu) to stone...." > > But Newman generally liked the film. > > http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/entertainment/11645989.htm > (free registration required) > > Pete > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:37:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJbMWm008231 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:37:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:37:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CC35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:37:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 849719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:37:21 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJbLBS021493 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:37:21 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005051619372001300pkmrje>; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:37:21 +0000 Message-ID: <4288F66F.1040602@istori.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:37:19 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051612062ceef377@mail.gmail.com> <4288F21A.4000900@istori.com> <8ddfc8a70505161230a4bbc61@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505161230a4bbc61@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't get the connection. My comment was about the idea that Ben and > Natalie should have to root agains each other. No connection, just free association -- deaden us / turn to stone. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:40:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJenWm008541 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:40:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:40:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CC4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:40:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 850013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:40:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJemeP021976 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:40:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2008300nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.9 with SMTP id a9mr380242nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:40:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jv4AcSVK9RqtzGN0/310B6VTRCgNZcwqiW0I2vcwggRD9co5HGjgYQ/aXxfNZFfvDLH1phEM0yBfm/XoraP4ItKu2DX+xsmJBd0AQfribZRNDwXMwJgEclAHEzDUKEcVujyNnmmCCgS6FoyMEN9GlwUZ7tG/GiTmCdQTEtK6CbU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505161240652ee2d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:40:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4288F66F.1040602@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051612062ceef377@mail.gmail.com> <4288F21A.4000900@istori.com> <8ddfc8a70505161230a4bbc61@mail.gmail.com> <4288F66F.1040602@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GJenWm008541 Ah. Thank you. On 5/16/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > I don't get the connection. My comment was about the idea that Ben and > > Natalie should have to root agains each other. > > No connection, just free association -- deaden us / turn to stone. > > Pete > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:47:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJldWm009298 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:47:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:47:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CC80@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:47:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 850603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:47:39 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJldJI023101 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:47:39 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516194739.ISCH2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:47:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516194738.ZRIU11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:47:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4288F8D6.8080604@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:47:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050516113349a869b7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050516113349a869b7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: > I think dogs whine about going out, too. > > The Beast is hunkered under the deck right now, getting himself good and dirty after his morning bath at the boarding site. He was still damp when I picked him up, so naturally he chose to head straight for the under-the-deck dirt. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:51:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJpVWm009818 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:51:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:51:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CE4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:51:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 850898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:51:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJpUn5023654 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:51:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2012958nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.7 with SMTP id q7mr1765130nzq; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:51:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=S/11cSa1iQiSoGMmHNnbbp8CG8gVbhtW9Cq2uiuMBohylAYYZRw0vQ13ue7T6bdH9pqHXSkM731gUJSYwu2nSMR75p0wxIn266ZqNHB0MK2sn1Iss1q16/pz5ojHtxZRiGLuCQz3gU/qZu7tkfApDjYFtmo7Ur9KvONhlRErAEA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505161251533839bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:51:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: <4288F8D6.8080604@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050516113349a869b7@mail.gmail.com> <4288F8D6.8080604@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GJpVWm009818 On 5/16/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > The Beast is hunkered under the deck right now, getting himself good and > dirty after his morning bath at the boarding site. That is one of the other things that make this cat seem doglike to me. He LOVES taking dirt baths; it's one of the first things he did when I let him out for the first time. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 14:56:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GJueWm010339 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:56:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:56:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CE6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:56:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 851316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:56:40 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJudkv024385 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:56:39 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516195639.JCMW2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:56:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516195639.ZUSX11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:56:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:56:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>Do you know Bad Betty's Tampa friend? She was the person who came >>farthest for the party. >> >> > >Maybe. Who is she? > > I don't know, but she's a good bar-tender. I don't think she tends bar in real life, though. I think she does it only at parties for BB. In real life she does something medical. I heard her talking about doing something with extremely premature babies. BB can perhaps provide more identification. >If Jodi goes to Southern Miss, will you and I be expected to root >against each other? > > I don't think MSU ever plays Southern in any sports. But y'all will be expected to zip up the road and visit me. I don't know much about Hattiesburg. I've been through it often in my life but have spent almost no time in it. It strikes me as a place that might be ok to live, though. It's small enough to have no city hassles but large enough to have enough stores and such to find most things when you need them. It's close enough to the coast to have lots of fresh seafood readily available and to allow you to go sniff the water easily -- it's only about thirty minutes from the coast, I think. (The Mississippi coast has no surf and no pretty beaches. But it has the smell. And, as I've discussed here before, I have decided in recent years that I think it has a kind of beauty -- something that surprised me since I had always thought before that it was extremely ugly. It is ugly if your eyes are lusting for white beaches and blue waves tumbling in. But it has a different kind of attractiveness.) And, of course, another plus of Hattiesburg is that it's an easy drive to NO. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:09:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GK92Wm011670 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CCCC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:59:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 851588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:59:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GJx1fA024746 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:59:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2015865nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.119.12 with SMTP id r12mr1787944nzc; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 12:59:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Z9WX3qDezXVQDZHGQPCnxioGtQMQz5EspYirSTV2OvIP5zqV1NqS0M2Zj8jLSsZ+7Qt9yQN2sRvDYuqJWJxP7uZRpWk2lngUd22z1Gs6KjJJsygc1tHn7y6lMmmFKj0qSuk3kHGkOPU3KuaepjXDomq3GIqD89X1+L2T5QuuBMA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:59:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GK92Wm011670 On 5/16/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > >>Do you know Bad Betty's Tampa friend? She was the person who came > >>farthest for the party. > >> > >> > > > >Maybe. Who is she? > > > > > I don't know, but she's a good bar-tender. I don't think she tends bar > in real life, though. I think she does it only at parties for BB. Is this Karen, who used to work with Betty? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:09:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GK93Wm011674 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CD13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:08:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 852389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:08:03 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GK82Qo026071 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:08:02 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-220.gwi.net [216.195.163.220]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4GK7t7E098546; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:08:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050516155959.01c0a8d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:07:51 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: <615296123.20050516130653@gailndan.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> <615296123.20050516130653@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:06 PM 5/16/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >5/16/2005, 12:25 PM, bonniemaev wrote: >b> She's five-years-old. We don't allow her to go out except on a leash. > >Why? Local code observance? She'll get eaten by a bear? Other? Bears are not the potential problem; coyotes, raccoons, and internal-combustion vehicles are. Our two older cats go out during the day; they adapted to a partial outside existence in Oak Ridge, where the various dangers are less. The life expectancy of young kittens in this neighborhood has not been high. Sere (the cat in question) clearly was fearless from the day we brought her home. So we decided that if we were going to keep her for a while, she would either be an inside cat, or be trained to the leash. Now, she might be able to fend well outside (during the day)---from her walks, she has learned that cars and trucks are to be avoided and she has a sense of the neighborhood, where home/safety is, etc. We just haven't tried the critical experiment yet. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:09:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GK93Wm011673 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CEC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:07:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 851374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:07:32 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GJvVdg024519 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:57:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 9665 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 19:57:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:57:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things Message-ID: <20050516195730.GB99154@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just another "don't care" slob disguised as a "sometimes care" person ... nothing's new under the sun, I've seen them all ... "Depends on how hungry I am"--man, is there a bigger giveaway than that? On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 01:42:46PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > It all dpends on how hungry I am and how much I paid for the meal. A > free meal when I'm hungry - I don't care. It can all run together. A > pricey meal out - I want separate dishes. > > BrP > > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/16/2005 11:57:48 AM >>> > It's things like having salad and lasagna on the same plate that drive > me > crazy. > > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:09:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GK92Wn011670 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CECE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:08:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 852399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:08:08 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GK87rp026094 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:08:07 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516200807.JQNL2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:08:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516200807.ZZEN11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:08:07 -0400 Message-ID: <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:08:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Is this Karen, who used to work with Betty? > > Yes! I knew somebody at the party was named Karen but didn't get the name with the person. But the "used to work with Betty" fits, so I feel sure that's who we're talking about. She's one of Betty's go-to-Mexico-with friends. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:09:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GK93Wm011671 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CEB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:03:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 851129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:03:56 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GJrss0023956 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:53:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 7965 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 19:53:54 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:53:54 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things Message-ID: <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 10:57:48AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Oh, that doesn't bother me--I know they were meant to be together. > > It's things like having salad and lasagna on the same plate that drive me > crazy. Keep the faith sister. Slobby mixing-up of random things on the plate is a characteristic of adults--they have "settled", they don't care that much, it will do, whatever. They might do well to take a lesson from children. Of COURSE it's gross and flavor-destroying to mix disparate food items. People who don't have taste buds--several people come to mind--are free to mash everything up. Not me. It's sort of like people with tin ears, who put on background music that's "great to work to"--I shouldn't have to listen to that crap ... At any rate, "kudos" to the Japanese on this point. Koreans too--at least in Chicago, they bring out something like fifteen side dishes ... in *side* *dishes*. Every single one has its logical role. How excellent it all is. I am always happy to be eating at a (non-yuppie) Korean place. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:09:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GK93Wm011672 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CD0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 852289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:41 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GK6f6x025908 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:41 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516200641.JOVT2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516200640.ZYQZ11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:40 -0400 Message-ID: <4288FD4C.40505@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:06:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS re Southern: They have had a major mess there in the past couple of years with a maniacal, tyrannical President. That stuff wouldn't affect a grad student directly, although it might be wise to inquire how many of the faculty in that department have left in the past year. The large majority of the faculty hate the Pres, and lots have been leaving. Some are holding out, though, and working toward getting the Pres dumped, which rumor suggests may be fairly soon. Supposedly this man is a good poly-something chemist but is an impossible President. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:19:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKJbWm012667 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:19:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:19:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6BA78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:09:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 852534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:09:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GK9YWb026293 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:09:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2020251nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr1805339nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:09:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GqAn81Sc/bPWYE9GIHMfRXJe8OJHaHLyA+OjpTfj1qjk2NKw9Q18CrA0Othq2FW6kCbxIdBsohJRCTjtZK9Myul81m00Hn9+nizA+dbgTlv91B+QivRPky0+CvAcoWmzk+L2er9TYUCoLlXyrNpF45JA3sf3PEQOVk6IkefEpVs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505161309306c7b42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GKJbWm012667 On 5/16/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >Is this Karen, who used to work with Betty? > > > > > Yes! I knew somebody at the party was named Karen but didn't get the > name with the person. But the "used to work with Betty" fits, so I feel > sure that's who we're talking about. She's one of Betty's > go-to-Mexico-with friends. > Yes, that's right. She seems like a lot of fun. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:19:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKJbWm012672 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:19:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:19:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6BAB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:17:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:17:07 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKH5ib027375 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:17:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2418577wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.6 with SMTP id x6mr3751599wrc; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jMaffVsYeEpn/Nab5keNV6ks5vtHEwIj6elBqKsoYndzF2h56Ckbv7B66Eh8qJ0iKkkBdTk/bQQt8mRmQqfWubHWQQ7UG3DHQSEFgtYHRbffyfSRh9/Fv0N9vBKsKcgwjQaYXTpnvKtH7R3Z6Qy04Jc/OPRkIYJa75TB7f6hi/c= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:17:05 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505161251533839bd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050516113349a869b7@mail.gmail.com> <4288F8D6.8080604@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505161251533839bd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GKJbWm012672 > > That is one of the other things that make this cat seem doglike to me. He > LOVES taking dirt baths; it's one of the first things he did when I let > him > out for the first time. --Karen > Yes, Sara does that too. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:20:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKJbWm012670 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:19:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:19:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6BA81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 852629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:35 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKAZdC026429 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:35 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516201035.JTJK2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516201034.AAU11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:34 -0400 Message-ID: <4288FE35.8020509@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:10:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Of COURSE it's gross and flavor-destroying to mix disparate food >items. > The absolute worst is to have grits served in a little bowl instead of on the plate with the bacon and eggs. When that happens, I immediately dump them onto the plate. Grits are designed to slosh around with bacon and eggs, just as marigolds are designed to live with tomato plants. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:20:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKJbWm012671 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:19:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:19:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6BA52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:14:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 852138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:14:08 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GK46Wk025561 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:04:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 20762 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 20:04:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:04:06 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back Message-ID: <20050516200406.GE99154@words-l.org> References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051612062ceef377@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051612062ceef377@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 02:06:04PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Ooh, time for a line of poetry from a friend: "You deaden us with received > ideas." Beware of this friend ... he is quite likely to be the biggest vector of "received ideas" ... this is their usual M.O. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:20:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKKSWm012805 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:20:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:20:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CEDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 851743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:11 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GK0Brx024911 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:00:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 12425 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 20:00:10 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:00:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things Message-ID: <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 01:13:14PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I also like intermingling. Sometimes in the MSU cafeteria they put the > vegetables in separate bowls, but I usually notice what's happening and > ask them just to dump the stuff on the plate instead. If I don't notice > in time, then I do it at the table. Lack of separate bowls isn't the same as intermingling. You can keep things separate even on a banana leaf ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:20:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKKSWn012805 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:20:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:20:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CD2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:12:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 851983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:12:21 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GK2JMl025328 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:02:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 18401 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 20:02:19 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:02:19 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL Q Message-ID: <20050516200219.GD99154@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050515204661849f18@mail.gmail.com> <839529894.20050515215617@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051521033e0a84c5@mail.gmail.com> <1492177498.20050516125323@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1492177498.20050516125323@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 12:53:23PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > > AFoA> Thanks for your input. Is the slower DSL annoyingly slow? > > Well, guess it all depends on what you're comparing it to. No, it doesn't. It has an absolute, unchangeable value, determined accurately by its price. You get what you pay for. And that's final. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:20:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKKSWo012805 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:20:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:20:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CEEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:12:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 852763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:12:33 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKCWmk026641 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:12:32 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516201232.JVOG2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:12:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516201232.ATG11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:12:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4288FEAC.8070506@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:12:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>I also like intermingling. Sometimes in the MSU cafeteria they put the >>vegetables in separate bowls, but I usually notice what's happening and >>ask them just to dump the stuff on the plate instead. If I don't notice >>in time, then I do it at the table. >> >> > >Lack of separate bowls isn't the same as intermingling. You can keep >things separate even on a banana leaf ... > > But you've got the point backwards. You may be able to keep things separate when they aren't in separate bowls, but it's difficult for them to mingle when they are in separate bowls. You can dip, but that's not the same as true mingling. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:21:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKKSWp012805 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:20:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:21:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CE4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:14:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 852939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:14:28 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKEShO026998 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:14:28 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-220.gwi.net [216.195.163.220]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4GKEJ7E099397; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:14:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050516160902.01c0a138@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:05 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505161251533839bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050516113349a869b7@mail.gmail.com> <4288F8D6.8080604@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505161251533839bd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:51 PM 5/16/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >That is one of the other things that make this cat seem doglike to me. He >LOVES taking dirt baths; it's one of the first things he did when I let him >out for the first time. Xerxes will roll around on the driveway or front walk; Sere will do that, as well as roll in the dirt in the vacant lot next door. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:21:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKKSWq012805 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:21:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:21:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CD44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:14:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 852973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:14:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKEqRO027060 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:14:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so27500nzp for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.147.8 with SMTP id u8mr1857280nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:08:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eweBghobyjhg3C2Gj8O2kOBhmFrI76rX3cYWCHVKSOASB+SnQpa5ZuTRwsEtxFCEMlS+Ih9uDBltA09zo38WO1su3W6DsmLgyAv7CYhngiFZko3TApC3Rwgkfo/dk4PvL3zgSzpMyYjuU+LEJmQ0byP+xiCZttBFfzDdQsreLjk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:08:11 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GKEqRO027061 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't think MSU ever plays Southern in any sports. But y'all will be > expected to zip up the road and visit me. I doubt I'd describe four hours on I-59 and US 45 as "zipping", but I'm sure we'd visit you. > only about thirty minutes from the coast, I think. Not! I could get to Gulfport in about 90 minutes, according to Microsoft Streets and Trips. New Orleans is just a bit further. Baton Rouge has more big-city conveniences and is only an hour further from you. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:21:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKKSWr012805 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:21:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:21:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CF01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:15:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:15:29 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKFSUV027167 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:15:28 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2417395wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.129.1 with SMTP id b1mr3787991wrd; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:15:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dHamAZwxpjZdGBm3mVzt5gpDM+9kyjnv5QAVe/enQ3JP+5rQQ+sxdb4RaOupO46ZeokIkTs+Fq0je4OwAgMU3sU7KuoJ2G/lzJWKNTr2aCX1Po9LHSky1qa5H4qo2zfOKVM0fruV5cEU039IPNpEPbbLbyLXWnkoUw3kYaXFnF4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:15:27 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know In-Reply-To: <4288E5EC.8010101@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> <4288E1F0.9030402@maynor.net> <4288E5EC.8010101@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GKKSWr012805 > > I have no memory at all of who Katie was. So I guess I'm glad Tom won. > Tom seemed ok to me. -- Natalie > This won't help you remember, but Katie was the only woman on Survivor, in my memory, who didn't look skinny by the end of the 30+ days on the island. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:21:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKKSWs012805 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:21:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:21:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CE52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:16:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:16:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKG6r5027253 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:16:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so28539nzp for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.153.19 with SMTP id a19mr1436973nze; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:09:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PiSdwHVA1UZEuDm6VsqrgOBkTzh7Ra/rctJu5dOO+QQot1sst10du9+RpDtGGSu8tpBFAASiZjHcn63nLhxO0JnaZ69Fy3aiVUoTr0MIx2IJNze57BKIRVzWFXCj1X0p5jwP+g3QtPwq7NP6opSlshZ86HD6cmwKVrqiIiL3YGQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:09:26 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GKG7r5027254 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Yes! I knew somebody at the party was named Karen but didn't get the > name with the person. I know a Karen from around here. Give me a last name and I'll be able to say for sure, or at least stalk her. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:23:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKMxWm013018 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:23:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:23:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CF32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:22:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:22:58 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKMv0i028488 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:22:57 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516202257.JVEE12557.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:22:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516202257.LODB23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:22:57 -0400 Message-ID: <4289011D.4030908@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:22:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>I don't think MSU ever plays Southern in any sports. But y'all will be >>expected to zip up the road and visit me. >> >> > >I doubt I'd describe four hours on I-59 and US 45 as "zipping", but >I'm sure we'd visit you. > > But I don't live in Starkville anymore. I live in Jackson. >>only about thirty minutes from the coast, I think. >> >> > >Not! I could get to Gulfport in about 90 minutes, according to >Microsoft Streets and Trips. > I don't know Microsoft Streets and Trips, but I can assure you that it's if it claims it would take you 90 minutes to get from Hattiesburg to Gulfport -- unless you're riding a donkey. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:26:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKQkWm013462 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:26:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:26:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CE97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:26:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 854123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:26:45 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKQjxv029073 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:26:45 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516202645.JXUV12557.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:26:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516202644.LPVM23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:26:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42890200.4040704@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:26:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ************* Hattiesburg is an easy drive to major airports in New Orleans, Jackson, Mobile and Gulfport. Jackson International Airport is 90 miles north; Mobile Municipal is 102 miles southeast; New Orleans International is 105 miles southwest; and Gulfport is 70 miles south. ************** from: http://www.hattiesburgms.com/t.html Seventy miles on four-lane highway should be about 45 minutes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:28:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKSHWm013729 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:28:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:28:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CF53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:28:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 854234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:28:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKSGbg029257 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:28:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2028227nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr1793668nzh; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hWsdoZAsp2dBbR7gxcQ+dVOQlcdmb+34eDrhZmK951/PlIaguKh3j5RK/XL07KaNiR6OPvwEW2pV37ages9EXlIJkqs9v7L09ROd5IILWHR+XfGPi26a3JFG/vnQvE0w4j6tjKXJr8X8mjCv6y+WCWlFIWl07npriFaT2XRyn4M= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505161328672e67a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:28:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050516155959.01c0a8d0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> <615296123.20050516130653@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050516155959.01c0a8d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GKSHWm013729 On 5/16/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > The life expectancy of young kittens in this > neighborhood has not been high. Sere (the cat in question) clearly was > fearless from the day we brought her home. So we decided that if we were > going to keep her for a while, she would either be an inside cat, or be > trained to the leash. > > Now, she might be able to fend well outside (during the day)---from her > walks, she has learned that cars and trucks are to be avoided and she has > a > sense of the neighborhood, where home/safety is, etc. We just haven't > tried the critical experiment yet. I am not letting this cat out at night. He can get his fill of dark in the pre-dawn hours. Maine Coon cats are supposed to be easy to train; Nanook has been in many ways. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:28:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKSRWm013739 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:28:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:28:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CEA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:28:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 854244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:28:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKSQpT029277 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:28:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so37440nzp for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.141.5 with SMTP id o5mr493233nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cqc6EZcJzwsG8+x8y5XbAYWqvWx4j9XraDEZKNI2d5jKQaBYuHJgDmwNxfU5Ep1ayl8Ody7OvZRGlaMWGbewDJaeHiLdojCCb6kiJ4qYykUsevUdbUNbY52LuP+P/70bi5cIgTsZxIq3lcSsa0iWNHtvSB8j4tNnehGMkUCwhm4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:28:26 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4289011D.4030908@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <4289011D.4030908@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GKSRpT029280 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't know Microsoft Streets and Trips, but I can assure you that it's > if it claims it would take you 90 minutes to get from Hattiesburg > to Gulfport -- unless you're riding a donkey. 'Says it's 70 miles, so I guess it could be done in an hour if nobody along US 49 objected. US highways around here are usually 55mph when you're far enough from a town. Jackson (90mi) would indeed be a zip. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:28:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKSSWm013741 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:28:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:28:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CD99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:28:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:28:28 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GKIRPn027680 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:18:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 28439 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 20:18:27 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:18:27 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things Message-ID: <20050516201827.GA26302@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> <4288FEAC.8070506@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4288FEAC.8070506@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 03:12:28PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>I also like intermingling. Sometimes in the MSU cafeteria they put the > >>vegetables in separate bowls, but I usually notice what's happening and > >>ask them just to dump the stuff on the plate instead. If I don't notice > >>in time, then I do it at the table. > >> > >> > > > >Lack of separate bowls isn't the same as intermingling. You can keep > >things separate even on a banana leaf ... > > > But you've got the point backwards. You may be able to keep things > separate when they aren't in separate bowls, but it's difficult for them > to mingle when they are in separate bowls. You can dip, but that's not > the same as true mingling. You just bragged about doing it masterfully with grits. Now you say it's difficult. One thing, Natalie ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:29:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKT9Wm013795 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:29:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:29:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6BB3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 854289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:08 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKT8Sk029397 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:08 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516202908.JZLN12557.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516202907.LQXI23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:07 -0400 Message-ID: <4289028F.9040805@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:29:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> <4288E1F0.9030402@maynor.net> <4288E5EC.8010101@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>I have no memory at all of who Katie was. So I guess I'm glad Tom won. >>Tom seemed ok to me. -- Natalie >> >> > This won't help you remember, but Katie was the only woman on Survivor, in >my memory, who didn't look skinny by the end of the 30+ days on the island. > > I will watch the tape from last Thursday and concentrate on identifying her. I'll try to do that tonight. I've got to go to a at 6:30 but should be home in time to watch the tape at a decent hour. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:30:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKUZWm014022 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:30:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:30:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CF5C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:30:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 854370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:30:34 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKUYkt029662 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:30:34 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516203034.KAJP12557.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:30:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516203034.LROE23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:30:34 -0400 Message-ID: <428902E6.8040507@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:30:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> <4288FEAC.8070506@maynor.net> <20050516201827.GA26302@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050516201827.GA26302@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>But you've got the point backwards. You may be able to keep things >>separate when they aren't in separate bowls, but it's difficult for them >>to mingle when they are in separate bowls. You can dip, but that's not >>the same as true mingling. >> >> > >You just bragged about doing it masterfully with grits. >Now you say it's difficult. One thing, Natalie ... > > Huh? I said I don't eat grits in a separate bowl because it needs to mingle with the bacon and eggs. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:31:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKV7Wm014048 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:31:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:31:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CDA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:31:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:31:06 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GKL6U4028106 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:21:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 26290 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 20:14:24 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:14:24 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things Message-ID: <20050516201424.GA24275@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> <4288FE35.8020509@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4288FE35.8020509@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 03:10:29PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Of COURSE it's gross and flavor-destroying to mix disparate food > >items. > > The absolute worst is to have grits served in a little bowl instead of > on the plate with the bacon and eggs. When that happens, I immediately > dump them onto the plate. Grits are designed to slosh around with bacon > and eggs, just as marigolds are designed to live with tomato plants. Nice straw man. Maybe I should come right out and voice my opposition to having RICE and CURRY in separate bowls ... Boy, I immediately mix them up! That's what they were designed for! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:33:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKX3Wm014173 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:33:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:33:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CDAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:33:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 854544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:33:03 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKX3OM030005 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:33:03 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516203303.KBYO12557.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:33:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516203302.LSQM23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:33:02 -0400 Message-ID: <4289037A.5020708@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:32:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <4289011D.4030908@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>I don't know Microsoft Streets and Trips, but I can assure you that it's >> if it claims it would take you 90 minutes to get from Hattiesburg >>to Gulfport -- unless you're riding a donkey. >> >> > >'Says it's 70 miles, so I guess it could be done in an hour if nobody >along US 49 objected. US highways around here are usually 55mph when >you're far enough from a town. > > US 49, at least from Jackson to the coast, is like an interstate. I would guess that the speed limit is probably 70, meaning that you could safely go at least 78. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:34:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKYTWm014263 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:34:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:34:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CDB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:34:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 854655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:34:29 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKYTtF030284 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:34:29 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516203429.KCYJ12557.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:34:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516203428.LTHX23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:34:28 -0400 Message-ID: <428903D0.3000909@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:34:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <4289011D.4030908@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >Oh, curse my geographical ignorance, I'd have suggested we meet for >lunch. But I think you were in California at the time. > > When were you there? I left for SF early Thursday. (But the days before that were totally clogged with stuff. Twas a busy week.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:40:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKduWm015134 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:39:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:40:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6BB52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 854335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKTtXv029528 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so38462nzp for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.141.7 with SMTP id o7mr1910599nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:29:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PxYd4wQyW8EQaCIkNyMkvPPg4jf1ZkzB2/39KcYlcEnTVHZ+74V4EjWPCOH2C3fmA8ZZN6fdSdvC1N/PrYVa6db6cM5HNaaxU1YCEt4P4ReEdGrTs2YXKryOKIoG25MtDrxeTds1MnN8UnAyjQ71zZclfdEcQMz7XSrbdBwj/+U= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:55 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4289011D.4030908@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <4289011D.4030908@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GKTtXv029529 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But I don't live in Starkville anymore. I live in Jackson. Oh, curse my geographical ignorance, I'd have suggested we meet for lunch. But I think you were in California at the time. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 15:47:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GKlHWm016071 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:47:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:47:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063CFA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:47:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 855299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:47:17 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKlFkL031581 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:47:16 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005051620471501300pnjhge>; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:47:15 +0000 Message-ID: <428906D2.40709@istori.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:47:14 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > And, as > I've discussed here before, I have decided in recent years that I think > it has a kind of beauty -- something that surprised me since I had > always thought before that it was extremely ugly. Reminds me of a discussion I had recently with a friend of a friend, about how hard it was to get a good, interesting photo of subtle beauty, like the bayside, as opposed to getting an interesting picture in an urban environment like San Francisco. She said it took forever (a day? days? I forget) to get one good bayside shot, instead of a good one in 10 or 20 minutes in San Francisco. Here's one of her bayside shots, not very pretty, but with a certain kind of beauty: http://www.shiffrar.com/archives/2004/12/bay_succulent.html And a gorgeous sunset scene from the bayside: http://www.shiffrar.com/archives/2005/01/dumbarton_sunse.html Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:06:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GL6GWm018092 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CEA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:04:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 857319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:04:03 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GL42SX001526 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:04:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2442277wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.133.2 with SMTP id g2mr3807669wrd; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:04:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qViaclH5sh/9Bz78TquD4SGPoCIJqsuMQoogtY23rrYEXhrizlAhLDUp4oscNtSBLRWLOAja7spf5dhMcO+dTVUj1H6d6edVMQyUo2slnbL9OteP55V5n9pM4yJl69L9ZlVlMbGJqpZ8gjWlDmLpBgwi3t+xZwV31SQc0oeC5ZA= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:04:02 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505161328672e67a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> <615296123.20050516130653@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050516155959.01c0a8d0@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70505161328672e67a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GL6GWm018092 > > Maine Coon cats are supposed to be easy to train; Nanook has been in many > ways. --Karen > Sara is the only cat I have been unable to train to lay on my lap rather than my chest when I'm lying on the couch knitting. After three years of me pushing her back, she has trained me to put down my knitting and read a book when she needs chest time. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:06:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GL6GWm018089 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CF27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:56:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 856000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:56:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKuFkK032716 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:56:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2040084nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr1825355nzu; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:56:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=txoJGwuZcHKcpkeICZWQv7+6/Ux3NvVzuCURoTGv3XIPm9dqurFnU25DDz4/s/Ha1ldHz5U0xkPvjGvOtNbAi4MQqNnFVoxYKN5rBEgxIVla5h00nRSV6GIIYv7ng4rYSvxjLgg9a7yIQMmlC3+1D0/tu9utOlySp5xJsOzg7WU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505161356137e5610@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:56:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <20050516201424.GA24275@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> <4288FE35.8020509@maynor.net> <20050516201424.GA24275@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GL6GWm018089 On 5/16/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Maybe I should come right out and voice my opposition to having > RICE and CURRY in separate bowls ... Boy, I immediately mix them > up! That's what they were designed for! Yes, that's true. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:06:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GL6GWm018090 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CF2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:58:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 856095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:58:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GKw8kQ000442 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:58:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so54783nzp for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.141.7 with SMTP id o7mr1928341nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 13:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Hx1wvIrigXct7LK/O6cB/rBf6T+CqzayPDjTmMbfrElxt15qDbjujhqRJO7EWljCgEO7IqLwCAslAOp1ZukFMuicDMIn2o3KQ+8Rf5gyDOXexqC0Ho7TSrfXsu1ReR40IIlpaBpgJqE4iJvv3XlDCWOr9RqZLr1GFu9kT2L/eZ4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:58:08 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <428903D0.3000909@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <4289011D.4030908@maynor.net> <428903D0.3000909@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GKw9kQ000443 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > When were you there? I left for SF early Thursday. (But the days > before that were totally clogged with stuff. Twas a busy week.) Let's see. Sunday night we went to Tallahassee. Monday we went from Tallahassee to Mobile. Tuesday we were in New Orleans and Baton Rouge. We were in Hattiesburg on Wednesday afternoon, and then in Mobile the same night. Thursday we were in Tampa, Friday we slept in Miami, Saturday we were in Stuart, and Sunday we returned to Tampa. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:06:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GL6GWm018091 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:06:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D04B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:01:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 857101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:01:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GL1fG8001173 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:01:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so56634nzp for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.146.7 with SMTP id t7mr1890075nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:01:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TxiLuIiDQHD79DU5ry54cLENJhiAwyIU5IKZWKAZIzU7v+jCh1cpr8D8Kp1aTlMwV0gbdDxa8ActLa5UYwIJxmq/QNlzhQ9xsC2SnZ+3GJAjOPgUFDm6lGWl4+/BrRBfiGhE1u3juFHE/KIMTK2e/RhrcRRp+MC5o3bi+wiFixs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:01:41 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <42890200.4040704@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> <42890200.4040704@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GL1hG8001185 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > from: http://www.hattiesburgms.com/t.html This site has a minor typo; it claims Hattiesburg is known as the 'Hub City'. That should read 'middle of fucking nowhere'. Perhaps I'll mellow if I become a resident of Hattiesburg. Perhaps I'll just go batshit. I haven't made up my mind. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:10:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLA2Wm018402 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CECF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:10:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:10:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLA0r1002683 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:10:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2045519nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr1817896nzh; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:10:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GLKoXLknQgCnW9yXSnylVY10isJHoV0KXJEPhBX7VgZb2kZos2b2m0k8vVcjc/fDBbFhtcWYhRVXNLZ/Ph3rKCugOJRfv2nghAVtAemIwNZBF3ao0i6N1zB/5XT6+bqdeWaM41/H5kGM1NV3POGV2qp+XShQkqoyah/d/2hahDU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051614102df34f57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> <615296123.20050516130653@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050516155959.01c0a8d0@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70505161328672e67a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GLA2Wm018402 On 5/16/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Sara is the only cat I have been unable to train to lay on my lap rather > than my chest when I'm lying on the couch knitting. After three years of > me > pushing her back, she has trained me to put down my knitting and read a > book > when she needs chest time. Interesting. Burl was like that; I knitted around her. Nanook is like the website said. He wants to be with me, not necesarily on me, for which I am grateful. I am manically knitting the LAST FOOT OF FABRIC of a stole. I've gotten a lot of compliments on it from people that have seen it, but I've been knitting it for so long, I can hardly bear to look at it any more. Next time, a way looser knit. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:11:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLAtWm018462 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:11:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063CFEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:10:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:10:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLArkH002815 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:10:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2445111wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.54 with SMTP id 54mr3808846wru; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:10:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eU4QGM9MExeNTcnM9tLn0enyKJ3Tvh5oyHTMmlaazwsIQPZYfXVtH9k35JFpfVxQgRknDt6/IugqqJC5iV9JWYngYPp8B9aWYUbW6V0v2+iuGS4qCQMsm9OPMrVw55tQP+IVgG98/tZtTacMDGFTCSQ7payuQAyyydBWKG9AXKU= Message-ID: <462271950505161410503f5a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:10:52 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GLArkH002818 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/16/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/16/2005, 6:02 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> (I don't like it when food on my plate touches, either.) > > Oh, this could create quite a thread all by itself. I'm sure you know > the potatoes and meat loaf touch each other inside of you, right? > That's why I said to drop it all in a blender and get the touching out of the way up front. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:12:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLBuWm018538 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:11:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:12:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D0A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:11:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:11:56 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLBtCG002978 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:11:55 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516211155.GTVF2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:11:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516211155.MHQH15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:11:55 -0400 Message-ID: <42890C92.2020704@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:11:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Warm Compress Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Spencer had his anal glands expunged while at the vet, and I noticed on the receipt something was said about how he might experience discomfort for a day or two and that applying a warm compress several times a day might help. I had noticed that he seemed to be trying to doo-doo while ago but not doing anything, so I decided that must be because he was experiencing anal discomfort. But I don't really know what a warm compress is. I just ran hot water onto a wash cloth and held it against his anus for about a minute. He seemed to like it. Was that a warm compress? And should I have held it on him longer? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:13:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLD7Wm018674 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:13:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:13:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D0B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:07 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLD6Wp003182 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:06 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516211306.GVMX2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516211305.MIDM15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42890CDD.9080400@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:13:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <428906D2.40709@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <428906D2.40709@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > And a gorgeous sunset scene from the bayside: > > http://www.shiffrar.com/archives/2005/01/dumbarton_sunse.html That is wonderfully gorgeous. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:13:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLDlWm018746 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:13:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:13:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D00C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:47 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLDkx1003279 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:46 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516211346.GWKU2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516211346.MIKR15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:13:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42890D06.2090306@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:13:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <4289011D.4030908@maynor.net> <428903D0.3000909@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >Let's see. Sunday night we went to Tallahassee. Monday we went from >Tallahassee to Mobile. Tuesday we were in New Orleans and Baton >Rouge. We were in Hattiesburg on Wednesday afternoon, and then in >Mobile the same night. Thursday we were in Tampa, Friday we slept in >Miami, Saturday we were in Stuart, and Sunday we returned to Tampa. > > A leisurely week. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:15:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLFbWm018974 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:15:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:15:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D016@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:15:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:15:37 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLFbDf003436 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:15:37 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516211536.GZBC2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:15:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516211536.MJFB15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:15:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42890D71.8040702@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:15:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> <42890200.4040704@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >This site has a minor typo; it claims Hattiesburg is known as the 'Hub >City'. That should read 'middle of fucking nowhere'. > > I'm thinking that it might not be the place for you. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:22:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLMLWm019647 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:22:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:22:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D0EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:22:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 859097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:22:20 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLMKB7004347 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:22:20 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19995809 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:26:39 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 16 May 2005 14:22:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:22:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <164124567.20050516152227@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: those little things In-Reply-To: <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 200, in=82080, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/16/2005, 2:00 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> Lack of separate bowls isn't the same as intermingling. You can keep DMH> things separate even on a banana leaf ... depending on what the things are, of course. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:23:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLNWWm019795 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:23:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:23:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D03A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:23:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 859122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:23:32 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLNUj8004443 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:23:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 20093975 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:23:52 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 16 May 2005 14:23:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:23:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1161731916.20050516152337@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: DSL Q In-Reply-To: <20050516200219.GD99154@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050515204661849f18@mail.gmail.com> <839529894.20050515215617@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051521033e0a84c5@mail.gmail.com> <1492177498.20050516125323@gailndan.com> <20050516200219.GD99154@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 197, in=68442, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/16/2005, 2:02 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 12:53:23PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >> >> AFoA> Thanks for your input. Is the slower DSL annoyingly slow? >> >> Well, guess it all depends on what you're comparing it to. DMH> No, it doesn't. It has an absolute, unchangeable value, DMH> determined accurately by its price. You get what you pay DMH> for. And that's final. Well, when you come up with an absolute and precise way of measuring what was asked about, whether something is "annoyingly slow", just let me know how you measure it, with what instruments, and in what units. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:24:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLO9Wm019918 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:24:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:24:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063CF32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:24:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 859145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:24:09 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLO8uH004505 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:24:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19996128 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:28:28 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 16 May 2005 14:24:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:24:16 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <49393625.20050516152416@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: those little things In-Reply-To: <4288FEAC.8070506@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> <4288FEAC.8070506@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 200, in=82082, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/16/2005, 2:12 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But you've got the point backwards. You may be able to keep things NM> separate when they aren't in separate bowls, but it's difficult for them NM> to mingle when they are in separate bowls. You can dip, but that's not NM> the same as true mingling. So ask for a bigger plate or bowl. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:26:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLQGWm020137 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:26:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:26:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D0FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:26:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 859295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:26:15 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLQFcO004781 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:26:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 19996445 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:30:34 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 16 May 2005 14:26:35 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:26:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1105713050.20050516152622@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I'm back In-Reply-To: <42890200.4040704@maynor.net> References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> <42890200.4040704@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 200, in=82085, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/16/2005, 2:26 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> ************* NM> Hattiesburg is an easy drive to major airports in New Orleans, Jackson, NM> Mobile and Gulfport. Jackson International Airport is 90 miles north; NM> Mobile Municipal is 102 miles southeast; New Orleans International is NM> 105 miles southwest; and Gulfport is 70 miles south. NM> ************** NM> from: http://www.hattiesburgms.com/t.html NM> Seventy miles on four-lane highway should be about 45 minutes. Damn....averaging over 90 miles an hour....WTF is the speed limit in MS? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:29:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLT6Wm020412 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:29:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D05F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:29:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 859538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:29:06 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLT5CR005202 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:29:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19818942 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:47:02 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 16 May 2005 14:29:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:29:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <421583421.20050516152913@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Warm Compress In-Reply-To: <42890C92.2020704@maynor.net> References: <42890C92.2020704@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 199, in=69654, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/16/2005, 3:11 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But I don't really know what a warm NM> compress is. I just ran hot water onto a wash cloth and held it against NM> his anus for about a minute. He seemed to like it. Was that a warm NM> compress? Yes. NM> And should I have held it on him longer? Yes. I'd do it for fifteen minutes or so, but reheating the cloth every few minutes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:33:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLXhWm021004 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:33:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:33:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D120@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:33:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 859756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:33:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLXgu2005616 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:33:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2456290wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr3825738wru; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:33:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DcbS+qQ/zHBmT7zP0o+YU4JF5Xqm31OP4OdWnYE1Lo8xzVGtgimQle2QXD+4oc05XBM+nr7+xpeF/SJr9XPtgIzM35h52DKeG9yzrBJmNlnFkgjeD03UVPmeKbLiwTbVB9ZAgFzOIqC8DIHnBASAqZWRxOa82sTjuuenKodqjfE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:33:40 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051614102df34f57@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> <615296123.20050516130653@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050516155959.01c0a8d0@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70505161328672e67a@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051614102df34f57@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GLXhWm021004 > lot of compliments on it from people that have seen it, but I've been > knitting it for so long, I can hardly bear to look at it any more. > Karen > I get this way too. That's probably one of the reasons that I end up not much liking the things I knit for myself. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:37:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLbOWm021576 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:37:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:37:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D088@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:37:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 860026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:37:24 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLbNN0006001 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:37:23 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103448836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:37:23 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050516142328.00c35000@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:37:22 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: References: <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:09 PM 5/16/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > Yes! I knew somebody at the party was named Karen but didn't get the > > name with the person. > >I know a Karen from around here. Give me a last name and I'll be able >to say for sure, or at least stalk her. > >Ben McDonald. We met up with her the same week end we had dinner with you a few years ago. We were both there for the Radiology Conference. She moved to Tampa to help care for her mother. She is in Las Vegas now. And yes, she is one of my Mexico traveling girlfriends. In fact, it's her condo. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:37:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLbOWn021576 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:37:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:37:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D089@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:37:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 860039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:37:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLbWLY006029 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:37:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2056832nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.7 with SMTP id q7mr1828690nzq; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 14:37:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sxnOPTt8cVbGGC6ro3Tgve7fpDjUapYwXUkGQu4IWeMmlroGueWKuNfjhA6P1QZq9pKQX53l7m2iD1PrnWMk3atEJLneBZLkjzKZdWwNDiiLqXkC2WXeQyuOJgxWf6HZ6STM/FSfkC85+YjQoIgjNzvUdyRbynvb8GKBJmu+6eo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051614377346a048@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:37:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even cooler In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516101436599017@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505161118e08a28c@mail.gmail.com> <615296123.20050516130653@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050516155959.01c0a8d0@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70505161328672e67a@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051614102df34f57@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4GLbOWn021576 On 5/16/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > lot of compliments on it from people that have seen it, but I've been > > knitting it for so long, I can hardly bear to look at it any more. > > Karen > > > I get this way too. That's probably one of the reasons that I end up not > much liking the things I knit for myself. Well, it helps that I will be wearing this in daylight, and I've mostly been making it in lamplight. It looks very differet. And it'll be better when I block it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:58:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLvvWm023938 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:58:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:58:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D195@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:57:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 861221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:57:57 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLvuD4009474 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:57:56 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516215756.BUII13146.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:57:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516215756.KNOY8439.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:57:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4289175F.7040400@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:57:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> <42890200.4040704@maynor.net> <1105713050.20050516152622@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1105713050.20050516152622@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Damn....averaging over 90 miles an hour....WTF is the speed limit in >MS? > > I think it's 70 most places (which of course means 80 in the eyes of the highway patrol). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 16:59:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GLx3Wm024121 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:59:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 16:59:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6BEAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:59:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 861492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:59:02 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GLx1VY009735 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:59:01 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516215901.BUXU13146.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:59:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516215901.KNYP8439.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:59:01 -0400 Message-ID: <428917A1.7090504@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:58:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Warm Compress References: <42890C92.2020704@maynor.net> <421583421.20050516152913@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <421583421.20050516152913@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> And should I have held it on him longer? > >Yes. I'd do it for fifteen minutes or so, but reheating the cloth >every few minutes. > > Thanks. I'll do it again tonight for a longer period. Maybe I can get him to watch the Survivor tape with me, with a hot compress on his rear end. That will be fun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 17:11:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GMBmWm025559 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:11:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:11:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D218@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:11:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 862375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:11:48 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GMBiYF011152 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:11:45 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 19826712 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:29:42 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 16 May 2005 15:12:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:11:59 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <248810210.20050516161159@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4289175F.7040400@maynor.net> References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> <42890200.4040704@maynor.net> <1105713050.20050516152622@gailndan.com> <4289175F.7040400@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 199, in=69690, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/16/2005, 3:57 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >>Damn....averaging over 90 miles an hour....WTF is the speed limit in >>MS? >> >> NM> I think it's 70 most places (which of course means 80 in the eyes of the NM> highway patrol). Well, you'd still have to AVERAGE over 90 to do it in 45 mins. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 17:58:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GMviWm031421 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:57:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:58:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063D0BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:39:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 863744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:39:50 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GMdnhw014247 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:39:49 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516223950.ZZET2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:39:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516223949.MUXH8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:39:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42892131.5060801@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:39:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 References: <200505162216.j4GMGLNj015180@web47.ofoto.com> In-Reply-To: <200505162216.j4GMGLNj015180@web47.ofoto.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=0&y=cfgdi8 > > Beautiful! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 17:58:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GMviWm031414 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:57:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:58:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D224@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:17:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 862698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:17:41 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GMHfeo011810 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:17:41 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 20138834 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:49:18 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 16 May 2005 15:17:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:17:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <123373510.20050516161752@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: those little things In-Reply-To: <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 195, in=71458, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/16/2005, 1:53 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> Slobby mixing-up of random things on the plate is a characteristic DMH> of adults--they have "settled", they don't care that much, it will DMH> do, whatever. They might do well to take a lesson from children. DMH> Of COURSE it's gross and flavor-destroying to mix disparate food DMH> items. All depends on what one considers "flavor destroying" as opposed to "flavor enhancing". After all, that is what chefs do....mix things together to make a dish. The dish you prefer might not be the one I prefer. If I'm served meatloaf and mashed potatoes (nothing I'd order in a restaurant, but might get at my sister's house), I might prefer to "mix them" or to put some of each on my fork for a bite. Does one destroy the flavor of the other, or enhance it? To me it might enhance it, to you destroy it. Same with coffee. To me, if you add anything to it it destroys it. No sugar, no cream, etc. Others feel that it enhances it. The people that piss me off are the ones that salt their food before they taste it. Were at a dinner/banquet saturday night. The soup was pretty salty (a Basque vegetable soup) which I would have preferred with less salt. Guy next to me salted it a ton before eating it. He could barely get it down...complained it was too salty. Well, if the asshole had tasted it first.... Same for those who do that with pepper. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 17:58:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GMviWm031416 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:57:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:58:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D185@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:23:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 863005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:23:37 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GMNbVw012591 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:23:37 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.109]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050516222337.LHJJ2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:23:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.109]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050516222337.QTFE8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:23:37 -0400 Message-ID: <42891D64.8040909@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:23:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> <42890200.4040704@maynor.net> <1105713050.20050516152622@gailndan.com> <4289175F.7040400@maynor.net> <248810210.20050516161159@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <248810210.20050516161159@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I think it's 70 most places (which of course means 80 in the eyes of the >NM> highway patrol). > >Well, you'd still have to AVERAGE over 90 to do it in 45 mins. > > And your point is? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 17:58:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GMviWm031422 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:57:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:58:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063D0CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:44:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 863963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:44:31 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4GMiU1D014708 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:44:30 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2485022wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.6.63 with SMTP id 63mr3828262wrf; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 15:44:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MqwaK2wK8U2JWGy1JkRk/0xS3DpqHhPQx2A0SB838igYbd4+Ms8ATmHP6y5Vr1cNd5OvC/8yHC8OVygmC1Fr6J9MaHsjueyX2RbObQxomgdlw0GSelfrIpM8U2HR7J8xumCNT2QFnP1UvTUpN1SPzZBfbiyO6lOMni4qb31/4S8= Message-ID: <46227195050516154427914e0a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:44:30 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <123373510.20050516161752@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> <123373510.20050516161752@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4GMiV1D014709 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/16/05, Dan Lester wrote: > asshole had tasted it first.... Same for those who do that with > pepper. Then there those of us who not only don't like pepper but can't have it in their food. It's a pleasant head pain trigger. "Is there pepper in this dish?" (when preparing to order) "I don't know." "Would you please check?" And I love seeing foods in the store which are premade and someone has put pepper in it as a courtesy. I suppose to save someone the time of seasoning it during the heating process. And during dessert, "What do you have which has chocolate but no nuts?" "Nothing". Now why can't they *ADD* nuts as they are prepared to be taken to the customers? Chocolate has caffeine and tyramine, but I'm not affected by either in chocolate. I neither like nuts nor can have them - they have tyramine - a head pain trigger which I am senstive to (and it's a common trigger for a lot of headache sufferers as well). Thank goodness Ritter's is on the way home from most of the places we eat. 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Visit http://help.kodakgallery.com. ------------------------------------------------ EASYSHARE Gallery Customer Service http://help.kodakgallery.com/support Phone: (800) 360-9098 Outside the US and Canada: (512) 651-9770 ------------------------------------------------ If you cannot see the links above, copy and paste the following URL directly into your browser: http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=0&y=cfgdi8 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 18:00:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GN0GWm031720 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:00:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:00:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D2AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:00:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 864219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:00:16 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GMoE6G015183 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:50:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 48820 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 22:50:14 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:50:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things Message-ID: <20050516225014.GA46522@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> <4288FEAC.8070506@maynor.net> <20050516201827.GA26302@words-l.org> <428902E6.8040507@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <428902E6.8040507@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 03:30:30PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>But you've got the point backwards. You may be able to keep things > >>separate when they aren't in separate bowls, but it's difficult for them > >>to mingle when they are in separate bowls. You can dip, but that's not > >>the same as true mingling. > >> > >> > > > >You just bragged about doing it masterfully with grits. > >Now you say it's difficult. One thing, Natalie ... > > > Huh? I said I don't eat grits in a separate bowl because it needs to > mingle with the bacon and eggs. Seeing as we have agreed for a third time, may I ask WTF is the point of yer post? BFD. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 18:11:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GNBVWm000730 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:11:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:11:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6C010@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:01:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 864264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:01:31 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GMpVbS015294 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:51:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 49401 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 22:51:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:51:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things Message-ID: <20050516225130.GB46522@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> <164124567.20050516152227@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <164124567.20050516152227@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 03:22:27PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/16/2005, 2:00 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> Lack of separate bowls isn't the same as intermingling. You can keep > DMH> things separate even on a banana leaf ... > > depending on what the things are, of course. Hey, you get what you pay for! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 18:12:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GNCLWm000864 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:12:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:12:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D2BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:02:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 864294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:02:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GMqmES015444 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:52:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 49943 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 22:52:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:52:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things Message-ID: <20050516225248.GD46522@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <4288E2BA.9020803@maynor.net> <20050516200010.GC99154@words-l.org> <4288FEAC.8070506@maynor.net> <49393625.20050516152416@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49393625.20050516152416@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 03:24:16PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/16/2005, 2:12 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> But you've got the point backwards. You may be able to keep things > NM> separate when they aren't in separate bowls, but it's difficult for them > NM> to mingle when they are in separate bowls. You can dip, but that's not > NM> the same as true mingling. > > So ask for a bigger plate or bowl. She isn't paying for it, obviously. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 18:12:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4GNCLWm000863 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:12:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:12:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D2BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:02:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 864277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:02:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GMqJsr015358 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:52:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 49669 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 22:52:18 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:52:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL Q Message-ID: <20050516225218.GC46522@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050515204661849f18@mail.gmail.com> <839529894.20050515215617@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051521033e0a84c5@mail.gmail.com> <1492177498.20050516125323@gailndan.com> <20050516200219.GD99154@words-l.org> <1161731916.20050516152337@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1161731916.20050516152337@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 03:23:37PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/16/2005, 2:02 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 12:53:23PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > >> > >> AFoA> Thanks for your input. Is the slower DSL annoyingly slow? > >> > >> Well, guess it all depends on what you're comparing it to. > > DMH> No, it doesn't. It has an absolute, unchangeable value, > DMH> determined accurately by its price. You get what you pay > DMH> for. And that's final. > > Well, when you come up with an absolute and precise way of measuring > what was asked about, whether something is "annoyingly slow", just let > me know how you measure it, with what instruments, and in what units. I just talked about this. Dollars. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 19:09:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H08uWm007205 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:08:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:09:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D2BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:58:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 866923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:58:56 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4GNmtTL020116 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:48:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 84007 invoked by uid 1003); 16 May 2005 23:48:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:48:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things Message-ID: <20050516234855.GA78902@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> <123373510.20050516161752@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <123373510.20050516161752@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 04:17:52PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > DMH> Slobby mixing-up of random things on the plate is a characteristic > DMH> of adults--they have "settled", they don't care that much, it will > DMH> do, whatever. They might do well to take a lesson from children. > DMH> Of COURSE it's gross and flavor-destroying to mix disparate food > DMH> items. > > All depends on what one considers "flavor destroying" as opposed to What's with the relative statements all of a sudden? Man, are you going soft or what. "Depends" is for punks. > "flavor enhancing". After all, that is what chefs do....mix things > together to make a dish. The dish you prefer might not be the one I And this is related to the topic of this thread how? > prefer. If I'm served meatloaf and mashed potatoes (nothing I'd order > in a restaurant, but might get at my sister's house), I might prefer > to "mix them" or to put some of each on my fork for a bite. Does one > destroy the flavor of the other, or enhance it? To me it might > enhance it, to you destroy it. > > Same with coffee. To me, if you add anything to it it destroys it. > No sugar, no cream, etc. Others feel that it enhances it. Yeah, Dan, yeah ... I was calling for eating all your food a single element--correction, single isotope--at a time. Uh huh. You and Dr Maynor amaze me daily. > The people that piss me off are the ones that salt their food before > they taste it. Were at a dinner/banquet saturday night. The soup was > pretty salty (a Basque vegetable soup) which I would have preferred > with less salt. Guy next to me salted it a ton before eating it. He > could barely get it down...complained it was too salty. Well, if the > asshole had tasted it first.... Same for those who do that with > pepper. Amen. Excellent example of how a lot of discourtesy and insults are a result of being plain dumb ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 19:09:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H08uWn007205 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:09:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:09:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D370@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:00:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 867309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:00:22 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.43]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H00Mrw020884 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:00:22 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j4H00JgJ003136 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:00:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42893423.2020007@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:00:35 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: v/r References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: >I've been asked what v/r means when it's at the end of an e-mail and in >the slot where normally you'd find best regards, etc. > >Of course I'm guessing "very respectfully" and maybe it's a Hong Kong >English convention or something like that - but I have to answer with >something better than guesses. > >Ever seen it? Know what it means? > >Ann > > > Virtual Reality From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 19:19:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H0JlWm008399 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:19:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:19:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D3B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:19:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 868098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:19:46 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H0JkEM022603 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:19:46 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050517001932012007a0h9e>; Tue, 17 May 2005 00:19:32 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: those little things Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:19:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It's things like having salad and lasagna on the same plate that drive me > crazy. Hm. How would you feel about the Snowbash mixing of the Dish and broccoli? --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 19:35:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H0ZHWm010192 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:35:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:35:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D3E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:35:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 868699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:35:17 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H0ZGeJ023948 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:35:16 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005051700351601600doc9be>; Tue, 17 May 2005 00:35:16 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: View my photos: Hawaii 05 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:35:12 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200505162216.j4GMGLNj015180@web47.ofoto.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Come see my four favorite shots from this year which I just put > into an album and labelled Hawaii-05. Gee that sounds familiar. > > > - D. M. Oh, I liked the last one - the palms, pool, and ocean. Nice composition. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 20:33:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H1XYWm017728 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:33:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:33:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D3D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:33:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 870433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:33:12 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H1NC3B027839 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:23:12 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4H1N0ue031038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:23:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:23:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: onboard? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >my hostess (maybe an onboard dutyfree item - I know she drinks white wine, > >Why not pre-onboard, where the selection is much larger? I think of those as the same thing - once I am through security, I feel that I am out of the country. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 20:33:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H1XYWm017730 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:33:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:33:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063D29B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:16:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 870174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:16:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H1GNYR027089 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:16:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2542025wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.40 with SMTP id e40mr3932318wra; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:16:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qtLfrZv/W4TCheKkvbFU6/yTd7c/6ygbpl/sMMLNzxmvzCvs+aNrmIwUgulQczyEUWaJ26WaViIZy3dEwUx+KsL7vY5ceVEXt06Edi3glF1cYX8VuJFFWKDL9fCbfSZb6Yu8a/lj7ua9w7ykU2nuznndG0T7CMKZAiR6yqPiuYE= Message-ID: <462271950505161816d502c86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:16:23 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <42890CDD.9080400@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <428906D2.40709@istori.com> <42890CDD.9080400@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4H1GNYR027092 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/16/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > And a gorgeous sunset scene from the bayside: > > > > http://www.shiffrar.com/archives/2005/01/dumbarton_sunse.html > > That is wonderfully gorgeous. This can't be real. Anyone watching that would cut themselves off from the outside world and do nothing but wait for the next one. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 20:33:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H1XYWm017731 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:33:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:33:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063D291@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:13:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 870038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:13:34 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H1DX7g026790 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:13:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2541048wra for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.76 with SMTP id v76mr3956567wrv; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 18:13:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Crp9nsuE6HI0AAzoLepHdlXZLD/Q3iULkiK8ewgjZaK++HZV/e/abtzQ07F6QeTzs4Fk2ZQt6qmFyhT2oUn8ZyUti2E4zZrG1/cJNgKM+h8DHgMmzeWeBvIbEhbHAKuo59zD/4rI/D/oym6lCmyf9t+uEtA9ckpUbloa1tvH8bM= Message-ID: <4622719505051618131aa56fe3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:13:33 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back In-Reply-To: <4288F66F.1040602@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051612062ceef377@mail.gmail.com> <4288F21A.4000900@istori.com> <8ddfc8a70505161230a4bbc61@mail.gmail.com> <4288F66F.1040602@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4H1DX7g026792 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/16/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > I don't get the connection. My comment was about the idea that Ben and > > Natalie should have to root agains each other. > > No connection, just free association -- deaden us / turn to stone. > > Pete > Like the kids peeking around a tree in the park, watching a couple getting friskier and friskier. One of them said to the others, "I have to leave....now!". One of the others asked, "Why?" "Because my mom said I'd turn into a statue if I saw anything like this and I started to feel myself getting hard." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 20:45:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H1jaWm019078 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:45:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 20:45:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D4A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:45:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 870927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:45:36 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H1ZZXT028914 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:35:35 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4H1ZNxp014242 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:35:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:35:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: grits/raisins Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >The absolute worst is to have grits served in a little bowl instead of on the plate with the bacon and eggs. When that happens, I immediately dump them onto the plate. Grits are designed to slosh around with bacon and eggs, just as marigolds are designed to live with tomato plants.< Nonono. Grits are to be served in little bowls so that one can put the gravy on top of the grits without its touching the bacon and eggs. phil paxton: >Now why can't they *ADD* nuts as they are prepared to be taken to the customers?< A place near Knoxville makes fantastic whole-grain granola. But they insist on putting so many raisins in it that I am about to stop buying it - it takes too long to pick then out. Why can't they put the raisins in little packages so that those who want them in the granola can add them? I like raisins, but not so many. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 21:13:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H2DfWm022922 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:13:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:13:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063D363@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:13:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 872526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:13:41 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H2DeVM031924 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:13:40 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2283EA290E0C5 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:13:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003f01c55a86$0a6dc250$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: grits/raisins Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:13:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bethany K. Dumas" To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:35 PM Subject: grits/raisins > Natalie: >>The absolute worst is to have grits served in a little bowl instead of > on the plate with the bacon and eggs. When that happens, I immediately > dump them onto the plate. Grits are designed to slosh around with bacon > and eggs, just as marigolds are designed to live with tomato plants.< > > Nonono. Grits are to be served in little bowls so that one can put the > gravy on top of the grits without its touching the bacon and eggs. > > phil paxton: >>Now why can't they *ADD* nuts as they are prepared to be taken to the > customers?< > > A place near Knoxville makes fantastic whole-grain granola. But they > insist on putting so many raisins in it that I am about to stop buying it > - it takes too long to pick then out. Why can't they put the raisins > in little packages so that those who want them in the granola can add > them? I like raisins, but not so many. > > Bethany I make my own granola. It's great. I also make my own breakfast bars. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 21:17:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H2HYWm023387 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:17:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:17:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D542@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:17:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 872693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:17:34 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H2HXnl032491 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:17:33 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EA822049FF08 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:17:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000901c55a86$95635640$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:17:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Hartfield" To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 >> Come see my four favorite shots from this year which I just put >> into an album and labelled Hawaii-05. Gee that sounds familiar. >> >> >> - D. M. > > Oh, I liked the last one - the palms, pool, and ocean. Nice composition. > > --Adam Thank you. I like that too, but my favorite is the one with the stream. You should see it pulled up on my computer screen. It just springs to life. That water is so clear you can see fish in it (koi, of course, white, orange, black in various combinations) It is my screen saver and I never tire of it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 21:28:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H2ReWm024777 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:27:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:28:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6C3D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:27:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 873215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:27:37 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H2RakG001220 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:27:36 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103525114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:27:35 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050516192807.02fe28c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:28:22 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 In-Reply-To: <200505162216.j4GMGLNj015180@web47.ofoto.com> References: <200505162216.j4GMGLNj015180@web47.ofoto.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very nice. Betty At 04:16 PM 5/16/2005, you wrote: >Come see my four favorite shots from this year which I just put into an >album and labelled Hawaii-05. Gee that sounds familiar. > > > - D. M. > >You're invited to view these photos online at Kodak Easyshare Gallery! >Just click on View Photos to get started. >http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=0&y=cfgdi8 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 21:43:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H2h1Wm026534 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:43:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:43:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D4D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:31:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 873422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:31:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H2VWHN001662 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:31:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2130708nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.13 with SMTP id a13mr1878647nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:31:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=TphuIYqTHYOw60P7JKbotsnE1RMZwobuBB+0gcaEJIrCmz3VF5k1Nq0IBKxx7frN+gtgocDFfTcs3ehdoNyZ5ON0W5Du4gscPBsbqRDpPJRl7xx6urWOoVibrze2iPDXd+RfUIWNcMMCJ+dOc6r649Bygvl6UTOIfo0kMtnf6ec= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051619313ba21bf1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:31:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: And tonight's story is called... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4H2h1Wm026534 Nanook climbs a tree! All by himself! Several times! Just to show he can! What a wonderful cat. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 21:43:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H2h0Wm026531 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:43:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:43:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063D38A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:19:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 872725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:19:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H2Ja4Q032679 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:19:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2127571nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.13 with SMTP id a13mr1877280nzd; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:19:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=auPlFj2O9/oscveu5Xk1uD1nSvmYXPGssw6AihBtJ2ZUA2LH1VofBuW8VuaLXiEbTeab2KF4A8Q3Lc1+Afk8K5vhW72B+efjmR0zfO1bDIXNzlzs0j35qAaq77/oJRF7ZuTygAyto7w4fT7AAuKavYgpqBRux5SCo8H8nrJE8MM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051619197f05400@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:19:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4H2h0Wm026531 On 5/16/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > It's things like having salad and lasagna on the same plate that drive > me > > crazy. > > Hm. How would you feel about the Snowbash mixing of the Dish and broccoli? The only reason I'd object to it is if the broccoli had its own sauce. If it's plain steamed broccoli, I'd probably mix it into the dish. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 21:43:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H2h0Wm026533 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:43:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:43:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063D390@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:20:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 872796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:20:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H2KseU000380 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:20:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2127899nzo for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.5 with SMTP id t5mr1907129nzc; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:20:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NxsuQg7Y7vJ0gakSqzaII87yi5t6IuD//fSvmAOavqU/cvaMKKBGpETqBnVxECwNK2zH/iSPpyws0S60Zhj8Tem60+bULHuncEi+tHPXG8Uc1GNHsNwf0ibEUWlFor+Ewyy+D1MmuatYQXmGkc5cXHsq43/OTbbkiYUE2wr/k3o= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505161920530d70b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:20:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 In-Reply-To: <000901c55a86$95635640$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000901c55a86$95635640$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4H2h0Wm026533 On 5/16/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Thank you. I like that too, but my favorite is the one with > the stream. You should see it pulled up on my computer screen. > It just springs to life. I set it as my wallpaper. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 21:43:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H2hOWm026618 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:43:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 21:43:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D512@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:43:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 874053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:43:24 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H2hNDA004076 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:43:23 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103528256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 19:43:22 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050516194333.02fd7890@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:44:09 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: BIA In-Reply-To: <42889D61.7040305@maynor.net> References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> <42889D61.7040305@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I liked everybody at the party and wish I'd gotten to talk to some of >them more, but we Wordslers needed to catch up, especially those who >have been absent from the list for a long time. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Natalie, how did your meeting with Myles go? I kept meaning to ask you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 22:14:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H3E5Wm030998 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:14:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:14:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D6FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:04:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 874669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:03:46 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H2rjKn005995 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:53:45 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4H2rWx9031259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:53:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:53:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: granola Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU D.M.: I make my own granola. It's great. I also make my own breakfast bars. Do you make whole-grain granola? Which grains? Do you put raisins in it? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 22:21:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H3LQWm031806 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:21:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:21:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063D8CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:21:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 879879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:21:25 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H3LPO8010482 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:21:25 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.79.120]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517032125.GVQQ13146.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:21:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.79.120]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517032124.OARO8439.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:21:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42896330.3030802@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:21:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: grits/raisins References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Nonono. Grits are to be served in little bowls so that one can put the >gravy on top of the grits without its touching the bacon and eggs. > > Gravy on grits??? BARF!!! The only thing that belongs on grits is butter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 22:48:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H3lxWm002195 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:48:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 22:48:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063D872@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 881025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:47:59 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H3lwB2012642 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:47:58 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.79.120]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517034758.TPF2562.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:47:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.79.120]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517034758.FKYD11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:47:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42896969.40306@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:47:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BIA References: <42880D6C.8000208@maynor.net> <42889D61.7040305@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050516194333.02fd7890@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050516194333.02fd7890@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Natalie, how did your meeting with Myles go? I kept meaning to ask you. It was glorious! I walked to our rendezvous place and got there early, of course, since I almost always get places early. But I sat there looking at the beautiful view while waiting. Myles also got there early, just not quite as early as I did. Iow, I didn't wait very long. We ate wonderful food while looking at beautiful views and talking about Wordslers. Remind me tomorrow to take a picture of the jungle clothes I wore that night. As it turned out, I could probably have gotten by fine in my airplane clothes. The only really dressed-up people were the people who worked there. The other diners looked pretty casual to me. (And I was glad since my jungle outfit was not . It was just a step or so above what I had been wearing on the plane.) NW paid $50 of the cost of the jungle outfit, btw. I picked up the check when departing SFO yesterday. I would never have asked them to pay anything -- they volunteered. I {heart} Northwest. They called me constantly to update me on exactly where my suitcase was. All in all, it was a good deal. I took BART from the airport without luggage to worry about, ate at that place I fell in love with outside of the Powell St. BART station, wandered in the nearby tourist center, then wandered up to my hotel and checked in. NW gave me 1,000 ff miles as an apology, plus a tiny discount off of a future flight. And then one of the various NW people who kept calling to report on the whereabouts of the suitcase told me to go to the NW luggage office upon returning to SFO yesterday and pick up a check for $50 to help pay for anything I might have had to buy -- they were very apologetic that it couldn't be more than $50. The luggage was never "lost," btw. They told me every step of the way where it was. What happened was that the crew for the flight departing Jackson Thursday morning was required by FAA law to show up an hour late because they had gotten in late because of a storm in Kansas City the day before that had set them behind. The FAA law says that the crew has to have X number of hours of rest. NW would've been in trouble if the flight had left on schedule. So when we finally left Jackson, I was planning on calling Myles from Memphis once I found out what the situation was going to be -- as in when I might be able to get there. I had written off the scheduled flight from Memphis as totally impossible. We landed in Memphis about 8:32. My flight to SFO was to depart at 8:35. I started just to saunter along to a NW counter and make the new arrangements, but something made me instead dash off of the plane and say to the agent standing there, instead of stopping to look at the screens, "San Francisco." He said, "B32." I thought, "My gosh! We came into B31!" (The Memphis Airport is prety small, but it can take a fair amount of time to change planes if you happen to hit the wrong gates/concourses.) So I started racing and saw that the door was still open -- and also realized that they were watching for me -- they , and they were holding the door open for me. So I made the connection. The minute I got on and sat down, we took off -- at which time I realized that there was no way my luggage had made the connection. When I got to SFO, I learned from the friendly NW luggage people that because there was not another flight from MEM to SFO any time soon, they had sent my luggage to Phoenix to then go onto an American flight to SFO. But the American people apparently didn't do their part, so NW called me late afternoon to say that that hadn't worked. Then they called me early the next morning to say that it had come in on United(?) overnight. The problem is that all the airlines share the same luggage-delivering courier, who goes all over the area. So there's a four-hour window of when the luggage will be delivered. (I could've BARTed out and picked it up, of course, but I didn't want to do that.) So I headed out Friday morning with the same clothes on but with no underwear on since I didn't think to wash underwear before going to bed and did not want to put on dirty underwear the next morning. I did my thing for hours, happy in my underwearless state, and went back and found the luggage in my hotel room sometime around the middle of the day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 23:28:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H4S9Wm007388 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:28:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:28:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6C9A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 0:28:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 885113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 00:26:46 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H4QkgY016556 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 00:26:46 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517042646.XJER2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 00:26:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.28]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517042645.OOKE1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 00:26:45 -0400 Message-ID: <4289727E.7050201@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:26:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Find-a-Grave Nut-Case Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Update on the story I think I told from SF: I continued to get insane male from this "Graveaddiction" person, telling me that I was a "thieving bitch" and saying that the fact that he had put his picture on Find-a-Grave before I had put mine meant clearly that I had stolen his. I kept trying to make him understand that pictures can exist outside of Find-a-Grave -- that the fact that I discovered Find-a-Grave pretty recently does not mean that I had never taken a picture of a grave before that time. He "proved" that I was lying about having taken lots of pictures in Maple Hill Cemetery by showing that I had almost no pictures of Maple Hill Cemetery on Find-a-Grave. He just couldn't seem to understand that that was because I took all of those pictures before I had a digital camera (and long before I had ever heard of Find-a-Grave). I tried to explain to him that I had those pictures in shoeboxes and that later I got a scanner and scanned some old pictures, including one of my great-grandparents' grave in Maple Hill so that I could e-mail it to my uncle (their grandson) -- but that I had scanned no pictures since discovering Find-a-Grave -- that the only scanned pictures I had submitted to Find-a-Grave were pictures I had scanned several years ago for other purposes. (Maple Hill Cemetery, btw, was two blocks from where my mother lived in Huntsville before she moved to the nursing home in Starkville. I wandered there frequently after getting into genealogy in the late '90s since I have gazillions of ancestors buried there. Btw, the Huntsville thing is odd -- the fact that my mother was born there is unrelated to the fact that she lived there late in life.) Anyway, I frankly was getting scared of this Graveaddiction person. Every time I saw his name (which was listed as "kc") in my mail queue, I cringed. His venomous spewing was not only irritating but was downright frightening. He struck me as somebody likely to come shoot a gun through my window. So instead of trying to find the picture he has accused me of stealing (though I will of course at some point root around and find my copy of it, just for my own satisfaction), I decided to distance myself from him as much as possible. I thought about removing all of my Find-a-Grave entries but decided that was dumb. I will remove only those for cemeteries he's lurking about in. And I changed my on Find-a-Grave to give my name as "Anonymous" with no contact info. (The people who run it have to have an e-mail address, but nobody else will know anything about who "Anonymous" is.) He is a very scary person -- as in out of a horror movie or something. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 23:48:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H4m9Wm009922 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6CA3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 0:48:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 886036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 00:48:09 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H4m83k018668 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 00:48:08 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BBB9014221AD0 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c55a9b$9e2961b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000901c55a86$95635640$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505161920530d70b8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:48:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:20 PM Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 On 5/16/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Thank you. I like that too, but my favorite is the one with > the stream. You should see it pulled up on my computer screen. > It just springs to life. I set it as my wallpaper. Karen That is a compliment. I meant to say it's my wallpaper too. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 16 23:55:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H4tkWm010585 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:55:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:55:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6CA72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 0:55:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 886200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 00:55:45 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H4tjga019324 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 00:55:45 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D8D811F300C30 for ; Mon, 16 May 2005 23:54:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001901c55a9c$8e027190$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: granola Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:54:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bethany K. Dumas" To: Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: granola > D.M.: > I make my own granola. It's great. I also make my own breakfast bars. > > Do you make whole-grain granola? Which grains? Do you put raisins in it? > > Bethany I throw in everything but the kitchen sink: lots of oatmeal a box of Uncle Sam's cereal wheat germ maybe any other grain or cereal I happen to think of raisins dates dried apricots almonds sunflower seeds I drizzle over it a recipe I have that blends molasses, honey, water and oil, can't think of what else, and bake in a slow oven for a while. I have an actual recipe if you want it. Of course the internet is full of such recipes too, but this one I have refined to what works for me. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 03:53:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4H8rDWm006964 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 03:53:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 03:53:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063E03B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 4:53:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 894871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 04:53:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4H8rCQr010013 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 04:53:12 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1903250wra for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 01:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.51.78 with SMTP id y78mr4255929wry; Tue, 17 May 2005 01:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 01:53:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=UPyjC9wEi/LjgHcOyFfFz5kywG8ik0eSqoMB9RSrjFFzhzvO78878kqEFu2SoNC+08Ym3BDytX2gH3WjXEqI2soYh2yeSD5xEaNosDcZh5/QQVhsNc6wp57nBCBtTGNphEfryJfqcQspXm00Mg9tcHH/2YAIwiNTEAfR63Uv6nE= Message-ID: <8865866a050517015341e034a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:53:12 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group , Dan Subject: Special day! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4H8rCQr010014 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Today is a special day, and not just 'cause I'm getting my hair permed, either! It has been 10 years since I moved to Sweden and it is also our cats' 10th birthday. I think we are going out to dinner at the local pasta restaurant and then being old and boring and watching Desperate Housewives. The cats are going to get some prima catnip and a few new mice. My brother has also had a change of heart and I'm (90% chance) going to Japan in August to visit him on Okinawa. I tried to book the ticket today but they could only book it earliest two months before the departure date. Weird but ok! It is a free ticket so I can't complain too much! I'm walking on sunshine (even though it has the audacity to rain today)! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 05:57:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HAv7Wm026985 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 05:57:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 05:57:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6CFD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 6:57:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 898100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 06:57:07 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4HAv6eq018680 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 06:57:06 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051712552722318 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:55:27 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.33] ([158.39.120.33]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 17 May 2005 12:57:04 +0200 Message-ID: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:57:04 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Betty: References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2005 10:57:05.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[29754AD0:01C55ACF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU About 50 minutes ago we could hear the cannons at the castle saluting you. HB! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 06:00:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HB03Wm027277 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 06:00:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 06:00:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6CFA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 7:00:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 898285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:00:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HB02PL019033 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:00:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2252607nzo for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 04:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.4 with SMTP id n4mr44647nzc; Tue, 17 May 2005 04:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 04:00:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nej0C+OXQKu6RDCu/qPljQ+C5gjbtR82VnoWluk/x3TgwGEvHDEQcs10V4NFTWELgUkBp0T9RvWJEzFUD3KSCi8NWfotDKFN12g+nZYhKnqWlAN+jGG5vF4c0Jwq8/rtteEoz00aSq3vYRj3UN4/YfzJE2/sUC8jtCNJ9OaDmws= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051704003431563@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 06:00:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4HB03Wm027277 Happy Birthday, BB! I'm glad you have cannons to salute you. On 5/17/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > About 50 minutes ago we could hear the cannons at the castle saluting > you. HB! > > Espen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 06:46:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HBkaWm000670 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 06:46:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 06:46:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6D09A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 7:46:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 899964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:46:36 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HBkZAK014743 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:46:35 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2760565wra for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 04:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.18 with SMTP id 18mr4312241wru; Tue, 17 May 2005 04:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 04:46:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZxXrleayYkheK2MmjNODLAqSQle0B7LS/MZkqOImiCyhlMlne/8DdSMay9QzIE6XIo9pQ9GQyCAmVrqG5Alot433LdcByrkBh1WJ6EBnRD3opfJNoCefAD6VT6utYE15Nvdn7STZseKdOihkLnCyUmrdmHTV/bA7Xk6GPK1uG64= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:46:33 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4HBkaWm000670 > > About 50 minutes ago we could hear the cannons at the castle saluting > you. HB! --Espen > Happy 100 years of independence, Espen. (Except for those ugly 4 years of Germany.) We are following along on the web cams. Looks like they are partying in Bergen. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 07:17:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HCHFWm004377 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:17:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:17:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6D143@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 8:17:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 901382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:17:15 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4HCHENc017815 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:17:14 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051714153522418 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:15:35 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 17 May 2005 14:17:13 +0200 Message-ID: <4289E0C9.40701@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:17:13 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2005 12:17:13.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B9BBA70:01C55ADA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev skrev 17.05.2005 13:46: >>About 50 minutes ago we could hear the cannons at the castle saluting >>you. HB! --Espen >> >> >> >Happy 100 years of independence, Espen. (Except for those ugly 4 years of >Germany.) We are following along on the web cams. Looks like they are >partying in Bergen. > > > > Thank you very much! Actually the German occupation was 5 years, and the 100 years of independence will be celebrated on June 7 - what we are celebrating today is the signing of the constitution in 1814 which reestablished Norway as a separate country even if we had to go into a union with Sweden (after a short war which we lost, the last war of many between Norway and Sweden). But these are confusing details and you probably wouldn't get many correct answers if you asked a random sample of younger Norwegians about these matters. (Says the old grumpy grandfather.) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 07:17:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HCHVWm004395 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:17:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:17:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063E62D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 8:17:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 901412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:17:30 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HCHUur017865 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:17:30 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-155.gwi.net [216.195.167.155]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4HCHQ0o037809 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:17:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050517081459.01bdbc58@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:15:46 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: ffered without comment: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://tinyurl.com/7s4na From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 07:45:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HCjbWm007724 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:45:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:45:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063E675@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 8:25:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 901824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:25:33 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HCPXlp018607 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:25:33 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.177]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517122533.TTM2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:25:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.177]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517122533.MCEK17253.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:25:33 -0400 Message-ID: <4289E2B8.8050702@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:25:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU HB, BB! We should all come to Pinole to celebrate with you! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 07:45:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HCjbWm007728 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:45:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:45:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063E6A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 8:30:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 902099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:30:42 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HCUgm6019406 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:30:42 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:30:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:30:36 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: ffered without comment: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU are those the only two choices? BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/17/2005 8:28:59 AM >>> clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/7s4na Am I developing pre-cognitive powers, or was this (kudzu's effect on drinking) something that's been talked about for a good many years now? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 07:45:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HCjbWm007727 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:45:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:45:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063E7A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 8:29:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 902025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:29:04 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HCT39e019167 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:29:04 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.177]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517122903.XSK2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:29:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.177]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517122903.MDEL17253.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:29:03 -0400 Message-ID: <4289E38B.5060704@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:28:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ffered without comment: References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050517081459.01bdbc58@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050517081459.01bdbc58@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/7s4na Am I developing pre-cognitive powers, or was this (kudzu's effect on drinking) something that's been talked about for a good many years now? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 07:55:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HCtgWm008528 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:55:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 07:55:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063E794@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 8:55:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 903250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:55:41 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4HCteEX022702 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:55:41 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005051714540122459 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:54:01 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 17 May 2005 14:55:39 +0200 Message-ID: <4289E9CB.1000301@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:55:39 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Vanity Fair References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2005 12:55:39.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA2F8350:01C55ADF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is an excellent movie. The critics here wrote that a problem was that Becky Sharp did not appear wicked enough, but I found that the whole movie was fantastic, and Bob Hoskins gave a star performance. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 08:04:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HD4eWm009639 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:04:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:04:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063E7C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 9:04:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 903814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:04:39 -0400 Received: from web60713.mail.yahoo.com (web60713.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.216]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4HD4dhD024343 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:04:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 46371 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2005 13:04:39 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60713.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 06:04:39 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? 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Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 08:07:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HD7bWm009981 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:07:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:07:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063E7D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 9:07:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 904084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:07:32 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HD7WR8025116 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:07:32 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-155.gwi.net [216.195.167.155]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4HD7R0o045155; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:07:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050517090119.01c099a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:01:39 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: ffered without comment: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:30 AM 5/17/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >are those the only two choices? for some people, apparently. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 08:12:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HDCnWm010459 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:12:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:12:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063E9A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 9:12:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 904539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:12:49 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HDCn3h026335 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:12:49 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.177]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517131248.DBBA2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:12:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.177]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517131248.MSFS17253.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:12:48 -0400 Message-ID: <4289EDCA.6090306@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:12:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ffered without comment: References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >are those the only two choices? > > Yes. Life gets muddy when two many choices are offered. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 08:41:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HDfEWm013293 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:41:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:41:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6D390@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 9:41:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 906996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:41:13 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HDfD6w031695 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:41:13 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6D38E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 9:41:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200505171341.j4HDfD6w031695@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:41:13 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Vanity Fair To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 17 May 2005 14:55:39 +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: >Is an excellent movie. The critics here wrote that a problem was that >Becky Sharp did not appear wicked enough, but I found that the whole >movie was fantastic, and Bob Hoskins gave a star performance. > >Espen I'm glad if they didn't demonize Becky. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 08:54:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HDsaWm014732 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:54:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:54:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063E997@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 9:40:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 906788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:40:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HDeGVC031230 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:40:16 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6D3CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 9:40:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200505171340.j4HDeGVC031230@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:40:16 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The Find-a-Grave Nut-Case To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I thought about >removing all of my Find-a-Grave entries but decided that was dumb. I >will remove only those for cemeteries he's lurking about in. And I >changed my on Find-a-Grave to give my name as "Anonymous" with >no contact info. (The people who run it have to have an e-mail address, >but nobody else will know anything about who "Anonymous" is.) He is a >very scary person -- as in out of a horror movie or something. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Natalie, I think it would also be appropriate to alert the owners of the website. That's a typical thing to do, and helps the owners protect themselves from liability if this guy's behavior gets worse. You may not be the only person who has been bothered by this person. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 09:07:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HE6rWm016409 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:06:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:06:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063EADC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:06:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 908616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:06:52 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HE6qn7003256 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:06:52 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.177]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517140652.ICDH2012.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:06:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.177]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517140652.JJIC11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:06:52 -0400 Message-ID: <4289FA77.2080706@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:06:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Find-a-Grave Nut-Case References: <200505171340.j4HDeGVC031230@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505171340.j4HDeGVC031230@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Natalie, I think it would also be appropriate to alert the owners of the >website. That's a typical thing to do, and helps the owners protect > > I did. I sent a copy of his first e-mail -- the one that came out of the blue saying "HOW DARE YOU STEAL MY PICTURE" etc. I haven't heard from him in about 24 hours now, so I'm thinking he has calmed down. (But I'm glad I've changed my Find-a-Grave name to "Anonymous" in case there are other nut-cases out there.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 09:27:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HERbWm019400 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:27:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:27:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063EB94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:27:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 910609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:27:36 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HERaq8006227 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:27:36 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 98294661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:27:57 -0400 Message-ID: <4289FF57.4040106@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:27:35 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things References: <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051619197f05400@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051619197f05400@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/16/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > >>Hm. How would you feel about the Snowbash mixing of the Dish and broccoli? >> >> >The only reason I'd object to it is if the broccoli had its own sauce. If >it's plain steamed broccoli, I'd probably mix it into the dish. > >Karen > > But, but, the tarragon butter is the best part of the broccoli !! I have no objection to foods touching on a plate, although I won't DO things like open-face sandwiches with gravy or soups with dumplings, etc. Soggy bread products are not on my list of favorite foods. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:04:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HF4QWm023871 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:04:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:04:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063ECF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:04:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 917978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:04:26 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HF4NTc013143 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:04:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0319923C for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:04:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04479-08 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:04:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E09499236 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:52:03 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:52:03 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.348 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > About 50 minutes ago we could hear the cannons at the castle saluting > you. HB! Great! :) Happy Birthday, Betty! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:16:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFGWWm025463 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063EE02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:16:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 920632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:16:15 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFGFHw015581 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:16:15 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103679128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:16:15 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517081558.00c16a58@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:16:14 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051704003431563@mail.gmail.com> References: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Norway celebrates with me every year! Betty At 06:00 AM 5/17/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Happy Birthday, BB! I'm glad you have cannons to salute you. > >On 5/17/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > > > About 50 minutes ago we could hear the cannons at the castle saluting > > you. HB! > > > > Espen > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:16:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFGWWm025459 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063EF0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:07:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 918762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:07:34 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HF7XR1013768 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:07:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE671991B3 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:07:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07291-03 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:07:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from akad.ee (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CFD99312 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:04:03 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428A07DF.7080107@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:03:59 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.304 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > About 50 minutes ago we could hear the cannons at the castle saluting > you. Happy Day, Espen! -- How should I say, then, actually? Constitution Day? National Day? Btw, I cannot see webcam pictures moving when using links at Aftenposten site. I also tried them a couple of days ago -- in vain. Some give me old pictures at 9 p.m, although the text above a picture reads, May 17th, at some time during the daylight. I wonder whether this may be one of the mean tricks of Netscape 7.1. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:16:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFGWWm025461 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063EEFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:15:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 920354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:15:10 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFFAsx015320 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:15:10 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103678883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:15:10 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517081438.00bd7078@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:15:04 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Special day! In-Reply-To: <8865866a050517015341e034a0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Congratulations! I'm happy to share my day with you, too! Betty At 10:53 AM 5/17/2005 +0200, you wrote: >Today is a special day, and not just 'cause I'm getting my hair >permed, either! It has been 10 years since I moved to Sweden and it is >also our cats' 10th birthday. I think we are going out to dinner at >the local pasta restaurant and then being old and boring and watching >Desperate Housewives. The cats are going to get some prima catnip and >a few new mice. > >My brother has also had a change of heart and I'm (90% chance) going >to Japan in August to visit him on Okinawa. I tried to book the ticket >today but they could only book it earliest two months before the >departure date. Weird but ok! It is a free ticket so I can't complain >too much! > >I'm walking on sunshine (even though it has the audacity to rain today)! > >Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:16:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFGWWm025456 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063ED32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:06:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 918474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:06:31 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HF6VCS013500 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:06:31 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:06:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:05:55 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: grits/raisins Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU and black pepper BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/16/2005 11:21:20 PM >>> Gravy on grits??? BARF!!! The only thing that belongs on grits is butter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:16:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFGWWn025463 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063EF1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:16:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 920669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:16:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFGkNc015657 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:16:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so495103nzp for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.3.14 with SMTP id 14mr176814nzc; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:16:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=odoeOYZn5eZONNi6olEhKcZ+U/OG8fDISjV9qpRHxBJhM/eA1CMcZ7xVsvlc2Nxqw1uyoMQTSxlN1e7x10GoZqm+Ay9QzLeQkkcjaQgmZ0vRtC5JLeJ6swUY+jEbWDGao1ZwHo2kw7LVE4dk/EzNDH/OpoZndCsmsIeyWD1SuYk= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:16:46 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: grits/raisins In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4HFGkNc015661 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Gravy on grits??? BARF!!! The only thing that belongs on grits is >> butter. > and black pepper and Natalie Portman Oh, sorry, wrong service. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:16:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFGWWm025464 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:16:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063EDF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:15:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 920414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:15:52 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFFpqM015484 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:15:52 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103679042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:15:51 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517081529.00c2efa0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:15:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> References: <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:57 PM 5/17/2005 +0200, you wrote: >About 50 minutes ago we could hear the cannons at the castle saluting >you. HB! > >Espen Yea! Thanks, Espen. We can have that toast now. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:21:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFLQWm026132 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:21:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:21:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063F019@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:21:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 921511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:21:25 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFLPLZ016717 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:21:25 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103680261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:21:25 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082037.00bdbbd8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:21:24 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: References: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:46 AM 5/17/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > > > About 50 minutes ago we could hear the cannons at the castle saluting > > you. HB! --Espen > > >Happy 100 years of independence, Espen. (Except for those ugly 4 years of >Germany.) We are following along on the web cams. Looks like they are >partying in Bergen. > > >-- >--bonniev Err, it's Constitution Day. Let the partying continue! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:22:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFMoWm026309 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:22:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:22:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063F02A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:22:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 921670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:22:50 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFMnm7016925; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:22:49 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103680690; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:22:47 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082200.00c08b28@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:22:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <4289E2B8.8050702@maynor.net> References: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:25 AM 5/17/2005 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >HB, BB! We should all come to Pinole to celebrate with you! Oh, no! I'd have to clean again! You're welcome any time though. I'll do it again when I turn 80. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:25:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFPZWm026569 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:25:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:25:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063EE9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:25:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 922119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:25:27 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFPRBa017394; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:25:27 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103681421; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:25:27 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:25:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> References: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:52 PM 5/17/2005 +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: >Espen S. Ore wrote: > >>About 50 minutes ago we could hear the cannons at the castle saluting >>you. HB! > >Great! :) >Happy Birthday, Betty! > >Kristin Thank you! The parties continue and I open the champagne with Larry when I go home Friday. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:33:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFX5Wm028003 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:33:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:33:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063F104@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 924200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:05 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFX24m019844 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:02 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.177]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517153301.ZXYN2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.177]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517153301.UCNY8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:01 -0400 Message-ID: <428A0EA8.90507@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:32:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Pictures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's a picture of the jungle clothes I bought (with the help of NW Airlines). It's the pants that look jungly. The picture doesn't show that well enough: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/SF/clothes.jpg And here's a picture of my prize for being the Wordsler who traveled the farthest. The picture doesn't do it justice. It's a wonderful fan. It's not sitting in its permanent location yet because I keep changing my mind about where its permanent location is going to be. It's sitting in a chair while I'm pondering the matter: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/SF/fan.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:33:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFXnWm028084 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:33:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:33:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063F10F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 924312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:48 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFXmpH019968 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:48 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.177]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517153348.ZYYD2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.177]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517153348.UCVR8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:48 -0400 Message-ID: <428A0ED7.1020506@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:33:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: grits/raisins References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >and black pepper > > Yes. Black pepper is fine on grits. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:46:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFkjWm029702 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:46:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:46:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063F002@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:46:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 926252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:46:15 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFkFb1022784 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:46:15 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103688248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:46:14 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:46:08 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <428A0EA8.90507@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:32 AM 5/17/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Here's a picture of the jungle clothes I bought (with the help of NW >Airlines). It's the pants that look jungly. The picture doesn't show >that well enough: > >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/SF/clothes.jpg That's a great outfit, Natalie. Did Myles admire it? You haven't told us anything about your adventures in San Francisco. Did you ride a cable car? Did you see the seals? Did you take that walking tour? When did your luggage arrive? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 10:55:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HFtAWm030590 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:55:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:55:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063F083@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:55:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 927732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:55:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HFt9Jx024836 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:55:09 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so2034427wra for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.8 with SMTP id p8mr3347327wra; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 08:55:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sHV1vM0toNqBIgjiuNFeAQSdxP2lADUY1MlM7tOKlQDIW03mNpPxX3d7qwyyb/Kj8qZZR1mO+jVI6+vxAq6ddta1Uv0jR8IbaUQVWwzMHC814Y3t9us3Slh3huaR6e7tB1BcM7N2Na+iA4yn+XLTBu2TYtjG9WK4IZcs48gbwZk= Message-ID: <83db447a05051708555a2550ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:55:09 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <4289FF57.4040106@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051619197f05400@mail.gmail.com> <4289FF57.4040106@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4HFtAWm030590 On 5/17/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > > Soggy bread products are not on my list of favorite foods. Presumably you like your gnocchi al dente. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 11:21:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HGL5Wm001364 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:21:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:21:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063F235@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:21:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 932138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:21:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HGL3oI029616 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:21:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2399418nzo for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.10 with SMTP id s10mr213772nzc; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:21:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MZIBgXSboDZcC5FbRGx2+qpGQHsnqvJmpfvUyQ52j63FWNHevcGVI9KhrZWw6nqzqYDkCF8xfYj5RmwLk3+mpoDmxjO8DIJbGkdnHu7+zOmHvYAd5ABg3SuZMYCwDgZQdwL1nhIsGYflVuLODbcNQMTKFWpgbYWwS3zwXcn3kVY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050517092136e678af@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:21:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things In-Reply-To: <4289FF57.4040106@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051619197f05400@mail.gmail.com> <4289FF57.4040106@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4HGL5Wm001364 On 5/17/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > > But, but, the tarragon butter is the best part of the broccoli !! > Then it deserves its own, unmixed flavor. karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 11:35:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HGZVWm003749 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:35:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:35:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063F471@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:25:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 933263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:25:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HGPFNn030324 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:25:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2401662nzo for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.18 with SMTP id u18mr212303nzb; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:25:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IBtGpZzkjq15pQmCo28vZpwsREw5SoRvuygR0v+iH15gmexQkzYn0uq1ZSaWYuLOhHpxiWgVX2YLXLtKXhSEEIOenTltBNmCt6PN+TJKiaMJBplHtgbCoC9ie2MEZJkDHxkyY0LAY/NZ411Z39MFoza5uHJoz0tDQJyeT985qB8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051709256ecce0cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:25:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ffered without comment: In-Reply-To: <4289E38B.5060704@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050517081459.01bdbc58@pop.gwi.net> <4289E38B.5060704@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4HGZVWm003749 On 5/17/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > > http://tinyurl.com/7s4na > > Am I developing pre-cognitive powers, or was this (kudzu's effect on > drinking) something that's been talked about for a good many years now? > Yes. 10 years or so. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 11:57:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HGveWm006778 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:57:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:57:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6E2E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:57:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 938261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:57:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HGvZYP003575 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:57:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2420718nzo for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr223494nzb; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:56:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Pl4vyv10tR/NunhbzyOX9Opzg97jElqLDFt2MQQMx7AGRMK19TtALOawJn9e8I7HsWtAQCzLwyasIenXQFo0WanVkFJva5+SVVygPJ4akeLUXSyH0oV3HYJxKq7Fo2VhZ3t57Jw8rmfRlSxl3im/jN/Hp2FXwG5mEotDpEZ3vWU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050517095661e33761@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:56:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: A book for Alan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4HGvaYP003576 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is from a description at audible.com. I found it all very surprising, but it's been a surreal day already. Karen --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Men in Black: How the Supreme Court is Destroying America (Unabridged) Author: Mark R. Levin Year Published: 2005 The Supreme Court endorses terrorists' rights, flag burning, and importing foreign law. Is that in the Constitution? You're right: it's not. But these days the Constitution is no restraint on our out-of-control Supreme Court. The Court imperiously strikes down laws and imposes new ones purely on its own arbitrary whims. Even though liberals like John Kerry are repeatedly defeated at the polls, the majority on the allegedly "conservative" Supreme Court reflects their views and wields absolute power. There's a word for this: tyranny. In Men in Black, radio talk-show host and legal scholar Mark R. Levin dissects the judicial tyranny that is robbing us of our freedoms and stuffing the ballot box in favor of liberal policies. If you've ever wondered why, no matter who holds political power, American society always seems to drift to the left, Mark Levin has the answer: the black-robed justices of the Supreme Court, subverting democracy in favor of their own liberal agenda. Decades of judicial activism have made the Supreme Court the most potent threat to American freedom. Men in Black, as Rush Limbaugh writes in his introduction, "couldn't be more timely or important, as liberals continue shamelessly to thwart the people, Congress, the president, and state governments by using the courts to dictate national policy....Men in Black is a tremendously important and compelling book." It could very well be the most important book you hear this year. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 12:15:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HHEuWm009433 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:14:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:15:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063F5B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:04:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 938747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:04:55 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HH4sEC004618 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:04:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D8F9925D for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:04:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22160-09 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:04:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D3A99255 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:04:52 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428A2415.4010100@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:04:21 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: those little things References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.18 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>Oh, that doesn't bother me--I know they were meant to be together. >> >>It's things like having salad and lasagna on the same plate that drive me >>crazy. >> >> > >Slobby mixing-up of random things on the plate is a characteristic >of adults--they have "settled", they don't care that much, it will >do, whatever. They might do well to take a lesson from children. >Of COURSE it's gross and flavor-destroying to mix disparate food >items. People who don't have taste buds--several people come to >mind--are free to mash everything up. Not me. It's sort of like >people with tin ears, who put on background music that's "great >to work to"--I shouldn't have to listen to that crap ... At any >rate, "kudos" to the Japanese on this point. Koreans too--at >least in Chicago, they bring out something like fifteen side >dishes ... in *side* *dishes*. Every single one has its logical >role. How excellent it all is. I am always happy to be eating >at a (non-yuppie) Korean place. > "... to wait for the widow to tuck down her head and grumble a little over the victuals, though there warn't really anything the matter with them,--that is, nothing only everything was cooked by itself. In a barrel of odds and ends it is different; things get mixed up, and the juice kind of swaps around, and the things go better." Sometimes I mix things -- sort of -- on my plate, sometimes I don't. Both cases may often remind me of the quotation above. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 12:15:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HHEuWm009432 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:14:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:15:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063F5BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 938817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:05:47 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HH5kS2004785 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.177]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517170546.OIWF2028.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.177]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517170546.QVHJ17253.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:05:46 -0400 Message-ID: <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:05:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > That's a great outfit, Natalie. Did Myles admire it? I don't remember. I like the top -- in fact, I'd looked at it in a store in Jackson not long ago and considered buying it but decided I'd wait for it to go on sale since it was expensive. In SF I had to act quickly and thus went on and got it when I saw it since it was the only thing I saw of a length I like. I have always hated short tops, and that's mostly what you see in stores these days. The pants I don't like all that much since they feel funny because they're low-slung -- the kind teenagers wear with halter tops and ringed belly-buttons exposed. But they fit well otherwise and struck me as the kind of pants I'm likely to find further use for. Another factor in my shopping that day was the thought that whatever I got had to go with the black sandals I had worn on the plane since I for sure wasn't going to try to get into shoe shopping. > You haven't told us anything about your adventures in San Francisco. > Did you ride a cable > car? Did you see the seals? Did you take that walking tour? When did > your > luggage arrive? You haven't been paying attention! I think I've told pretty much everything. But here's the complete record: Thursday: Arrived on schedule around noon, knowing that the luggage could not possibly have made it. Went to the NW luggage office and dealt with helpful, friendly NW people. Then happily got on BART to go to Powell Street, happy because there was no luggage to hassle with. Was getting quite hungry by then and was delighted to see when I exited the BART Station that there was a charming outdoor sitting/eating area with a little sandwich-seller. Had a great turkey and avocado sandwich and shared a shady table with a likable woman who had been searching for info on her "solid black" grandfather in Mississippi. She's originally from Indiana but has lived for a good while in SF now. Then I wandered into a tourist office briefly and picked up a couple of little booklets with maps. And then I strolled on up Powell Street and checked into the very pleasant hotel. After that I did the shopping at Macy's (with an 11% discount card from the hotel) and borrowed scissors from the friendly hotel desk person to cut the tags off of my new clothes. I did a bit more wandering in the area and then went to meet Myles in the sky. Had scallops and other good stuff, enjoyed the views, and of course enjoyed Mylesykins. Friday: Ate breakfast up the street since the hotel restaurant didn't open until 7. Then NW called me again to say that the suitcase was now in SF but that there would be a window of four hours for when it might get to me. So in my airplane clothes sans underwear I decided to go explore Fisherman's Wharf. Not realizing at that time that the cable cars that were running up and down in front of the hotel went all the way to FW, I went down and got on BART to Embarcadero, then walked along beside the many piers to FW, where I enjoyed strolling around in shops and buying earrings in the last shop I went in -- Mud, Wind, and Fire. I loved that shop. I said something while in there about needing to figure out how to get back to Union Square without going the way I had come, and the sales person said to go to Columbus St. and get on bus #30. Before leaving the area of little shops and eateries, I stopped and ate a crab/shrimp poboy. Then I headed out in search of Columbus St. and noticed that I was at the end (beginning?) of Powell St. So I decided to walk -- since Powell St. was my street. Somehow, however, Powell St. vanished after several blocks. (Locals I told this story to later said that they knew exactly what I was talking about -- something about how it does weird things at the point when Columbus crosses it.) I kept wandering in what I thought was more or less the same direction, but then I saw a #30 bus turning right, so I decided that must mean that I also should turn right. That took me to an area where I could see the bay again, which struck me as not what I was supposed to be seeing. I also noticed that after 45 minutes or more of walking I was still seeing signs that suggested I was in the Fisherman's Wharf vicinity. I stopped in a little crafts shop to look around and mentioned to the proprietor that I was mainly just taking a break from my lost wanderings. She told me that if I wanted to take bus #30 to go across the street and get on it -- going in the direction I had just come from. So I did that. The bus went back the way I had come, then turned and headed up through China Town, and I knew when it exited China Town where I was. So I got off and went to the hotel to be reunited with my luggage. (I had maps in my purse but never bothered to look at them since I was rather enjoying the lost wanderings.) I unpacked and then did some more wandering in the neighborhood briefly. At some point I had discovered that the cable cars went to FW, so I decided to go back there and fool around a little while since I liked that area. The line for the cable cars at Powell Street wasn't terribly long, but when I got to FW I realized that getting back was going to take quite a while because of the humongously long line. I wandered briefly and then went and got in line, where I remained for about an hour and a half. After standing in line for the first half hour or so, I considered going and trying to find the bus, but I didn't want to do that after wasting so much time in line already. So I kept waiting and finally rode a crammed cable car back to the hotel. By this time it was after 7, so I went next door and ate at Sears, an ok but not great place. After that I remembered that I had some kind of discount coupon for the hotel bar, so I went to the little bar and asked the bartendress what kind of after-dinner drinks they had. I had something I'd never heard of -- have forgotten now what -- started with an F, I think. The bartendress and I discussed SF and NYC. She's originally from White Plains but likes living in SF. As I was finishing that drink, I realized that my coupon wasn't for X amount off of one drink -- it was a 2-for-the-price-of-1 thing. She had run out of the F stuff, so I had a kahlua. About that time two delightful gay males from Atlanta, plus Fred, who was also fun, showed up at the bar. Bill and Vernon were in SF for eleven days, and Vernon had flown in Fred, their good friend from Atlanta, to join them for a couple of days as a birthday present for Bill. Fred was tuckered out because they'd been to Alcatraz, and he has a heart condition. I thoroughly enjoyed all three of them. Saturday: Ate breakfast next door, at the place I'd had dinner the night before. Vernon had told me that they'd discovered that this place next door, Sears, was owned by the same people who own Lori's, up the street. After breakfast I considered trying to do some kind of boat tour but didn't want to have to go in search of the proper pier, so instead I sat and read for a while in Union Square, where a woman nearby kept singing the same song over and over and over. And now I think I'm really crazy because I can't remember what it was! I'll remember at some point. It was some ordinary song but not something you would expect a woman sitting on a concrete slab in Union Square to be singing over and over and over. Her husband or partner or whoever he was just sat there looking expressionless. After the tents opened, I wandered among their wares -- the tent theme was obviously Italy. Different tents featured products from different parts of Italy. Most of it was foodstuffs -- bottles of olive oil, bags of coffee, etc. I decided about 11:30 to go back to that open-air sandwich place outside of the BART station and have another turkey/avocado sandwich. Then I read a little more in Union Square, where the woman was still singing the song over and over, and then I went back to the hotel and changed clothes and left for the BART station to go to El Cerrito del Norte. I knew I was getting to the BART station early but didn't mind since I had a book in my purse. But when an earlier train than the one I had meant to get on was announced, I decided to go on and get on it. While pondering whether to call from the train or wait until getting off, since I was early, "Jingle Bells" started playing in my purse, and it was you calling to see where I was -- and the little boy sitting under the map across from me pointed to where we were on the map so that I could report it to you since I hadn't paid attention to the last station we'd been through. And you know The Rest of Saturday's Story, including that Ryan told me about the non-direct night trains so I knew to get off and go across the platform and get on the different train at whatever station that was. Sunday: Got up and packed, ate breakfast next door, and got on the shuttle at about 8:00. (I had thought about BARTing but decided on a whim sometime Saturday to go on and do the shuttle instead.) Got to the airport with plenty of time to go pick up my $50 check from NW and sit and read. Got to Memphis with enough time to eat something in the airport. Got to Jackson on schedule and found my car safely parked where I had left it. Got home a little after 9, unpacked, and read/wrote e-mail. Twas a good trip. I loved the hotel, but I'm thinking that on a future trip I'd rather be in the FW area. That would make it easier to do things like go on a boat trip. I could have done that from where I was, but the transportation situation between Union Square and FW isn't really very good (because of those horrendously long lines of people waiting for the cable cars). Oh -- and the weather couldn't have been any better. At no point on the whole trip was I hot or cold. It was perfect the whole time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 12:27:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HHR0Wm010951 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:27:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:27:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063F5B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:26:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 941399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:26:59 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HHQx11009037 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:26:59 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.177]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517172659.PLOT2012.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:26:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.177]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517172659.NHBC11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:26:59 -0400 Message-ID: <428A295F.7000709@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:26:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Re E-Mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/swf/may02-smilepop-soapbox4.swf -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 13:10:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HIAQWm019058 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:10:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:10:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063F6B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:50:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 944116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:50:25 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HHoP6j012940 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:50:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2976456wri for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.78 with SMTP id k78mr257272wrk; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 10:50:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nF9WuStnBhWNMxbCmEI0rJwHsYe+t9HTzKp90cs5QbO1guPLG/9J6Pw67Ql+YrRkds2aTAlHclYqKIUPMWgY3pxguACFdXL9AhkbLHEFJYPfwnMEX5uY4ri0tBSga74TvUte4GKl5xw9pwWYXjoTYD1UXty5v89/dJpzJLr62Tw= Message-ID: <83db447a0505171050687a1d6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:50:25 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A book for Alan In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050517095661e33761@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050517095661e33761@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4HIAQWm019058 On 5/17/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > This is from a description at audible.com . I found it > all very > surprising, but it's been a surreal day already. What do you find surprising---that Levin wrote it, Limbaugh endorsed it, or audible.com mentioned it? Levin's sort of diatribe is common fodder for the right-fringe mob. At the same time, the left fringe is bemoaning Scalia and Thomas, etc. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 13:29:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HITKWm021234 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:29:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:29:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0063FACC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:29:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 950747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:29:20 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HITJ0d021494 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:29:19 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2947672wra for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.18 with SMTP id 18mr4514463wru; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:29:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qbiOW6WyKq55gI3/KMDo/OUynXcXKhO3J35IDN7GZ8TAvTcQI5Y9HHj9mYSXRAfpr0H6FUjHlIYRQree+tZiWb6F0e6h3XjfEjFr6WiM1zww6sMldhE4JCK+fS4ygUGlwAcfyOYit5yfTCDQZXfpc+0hcNVyQIPCHYzitC5OuFA= Message-ID: <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:29:19 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4HITJ0d021495 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday Betty! And many many more! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 13:43:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HIhtWm022760 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:43:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:43:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6E9D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:43:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 952717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:43:54 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HIhs8q025183 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:43:54 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4HIhp7e001186 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:43:53 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 ([131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4HIfGLT025865 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:41:19 -0400 Message-ID: <07d701c55b10$03a55b60$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a7050517095661e33761@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: A book for Alan Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:41:14 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" > This is from a description at audible.com. I found it all very > surprising, but it's been a surreal day already. > > Karen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Men in Black: How the Supreme Court is Destroying America (Unabridged) > Author: Mark R. Levin > Year Published: 2005 > I have to admit that I've revised some of my stands on the trigger issues: the most prominent to me perhaps is my more liberal-leaning attitude towards abortion... and that's not a jab, Karen; I have found a new way to look at it. ... So the label you may pin on me may not be appropriate anymore. Still, on the 2nd Amendment issue, I'll likely always hold it as an individual's right. On free speech as well, an individual's right. On freedom of the press... well... even after the Newsweek fuck-up, I still think they ought to have their right, and the right to culturally educate themselves also. I mean, if fundamentalists in Afghanistan want to take Newsweek's word as American gospel, there's not much anyone can do about that, but Newsweek ought to be aware of the weight of their word in their popular magazine. There is a moral liability there, I feel. As for the Men in Black... They've fucked up before and will fuck-up again. I'd heard recently that the ACLU (Tushar, read this: the FUCKING ACLU) is suing the U.S. government over "Reproductive Freedom". This effort should have been named, "If the government can spend millions on this issue, so can we!" ok... enough satire... 'work to do. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 13:44:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HIiQWm022776 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:44:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:44:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F6E9D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:44:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 952797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:44:25 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HIiOed025323; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:44:24 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103752013; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:40:19 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:40:18 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:29 PM 5/17/2005 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: >Happy Birthday Betty! And many many more! > >Terry Thanks! See you in New York. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 13:48:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HIm7Wm023189 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:48:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:48:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063F9C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:48:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 951838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:48:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4HIc5Aa023662 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:38:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 32149 invoked by uid 1003); 17 May 2005 18:38:05 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:38:04 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures Message-ID: <20050517183804.GA31059@words-l.org> References: <428A0EA8.90507@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <428A0EA8.90507@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 10:32:56AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Here's a picture of the jungle clothes I bought (with the help of NW > Airlines). It's the pants that look jungly. The picture doesn't show > that well enough: > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/SF/clothes.jpg Those are WILD, man ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 13:54:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HIs8Wm023781 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:54:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:54:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063F9F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:54:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 954394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:54:07 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HIs6gG028077 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:54:07 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4HIs67Q001540 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:54:06 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 ([131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4HIpNLT030396 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:51:24 -0400 Message-ID: <080001c55b11$6c39dbf0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Betty: Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:51:22 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Wild" > Happy Birthday Betty! And many many more! > > Terry ... and a great big kiss from Alan! :-* Mwah! Did you wear your red hat at the party? ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 14:08:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HJ80Wm025983 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:08:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 14:08:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6ED44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:07:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 960073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:04:17 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HJ4HGe031551 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:04:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2965209wra for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.129.1 with SMTP id b1mr4515556wrd; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 12:04:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WPymZdGyAe92g6YnjDBIed0GhDDRNYWM4riOV6VZhLEUOVz35G02UuL72RSKmBxmXLOrXgwFh3SS7LWWW0tgSQTK5ZXVpLugxJj5gs0bpXimPAQUGHJ076TFi970MzLwbfoLN+LCmjtNpDpglExvRlCioLvasVzDTOS+AjgjYy4= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:04:16 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4HJ80Wm025983 > > wandered briefly and then went and got in line, where I remained for > about an hour and a half. After standing in line for the first half > hour or so, I considered going and trying to find the bus, Did you ever consider hailing a taxi? Were there street performers entertaining the crowd waiting for the cable cars? bartendress what kind of after-dinner drinks they had. I had something > I'd never heard of -- have forgotten now what -- started with an F, I > think. --Natalie Frangelico? It's derived from hazelnuts. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 15:19:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HKIwWm002269 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:19:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:19:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0063FF3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:18:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 966663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:18:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HKIwGM013368 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:18:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2533551nzo for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.18 with SMTP id j18mr2301178nzj; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:18:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=sQqC5RnWuBb+0BrEu4TQBPrN2R1bKf9loqz1h2YlbG1/vfgS2G3v7PdTzbZV6A7c+qgI3y5elGMpy0SYIV67OnQ11PlqNDILlZqnUdKwRPz8HL2BlL84txYBfB02Zhy7jH7Z0889sk7gnRJtlyKzpZrwqUuXkTZkAIrj2S2/sCA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051713182c9211a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:18:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Scotched? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4HKIwGM013369 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Earlier this afternoon, I was talking to a verification engineer about some plans we'd made for a project we've been working on for several months. I said something "But we scotched those plans, right?" And he looked at me as if he were wondering what planet I came from, and he asked "Scotched?" Is this not standard English? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 15:26:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HKQqWm002895 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:26:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:26:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0063FE92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:26:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 967732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:26:51 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HKQp5u014983 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:26:51 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so2118787wri for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.6.63 with SMTP id 63mr4532210wrf; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:26:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=S4IW0sGUSrS/wKOHN4Wg+4cwWoyXFf5FTXMnZvGB1YusQeFS3DsVD2EkQBc2rckYQIM/VSJW41KYdRxNgU63ZUS4eZtKlBk+PHGTdDNpGuLQsDg0bQ4dNzchKU0p/TxrucFTS2rLOpGYZskS1L5VYE7b3DBg42YmQnuueKpgSZI= Message-ID: <4622719505051713265324da3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:26:25 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Reference Books For Sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4HKQp5u014985 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks to a finger check, I found this: http://www.dicionary.com/ in a way, it's kind of clever. If you misspelled "dictionary', you can buy a dictionary (or other reference books) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 15:43:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HKhLWm004497 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:43:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:43:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064000A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:43:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 969122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:43:21 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HKhKNc018285 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:43:20 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 98356193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:43:41 -0400 Message-ID: <428A5768.8010303@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:43:20 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Scotched? References: <8ddfc8a705051713182c9211a8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051713182c9211a8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Earlier this afternoon, I was talking to a verification engineer about >some plans we'd made for a project we've been working on for several >months. I said something "But we scotched those plans, right?" And he >looked at me as if he were wondering what planet I came from, and he >asked "Scotched?" > >Is this not standard English? > >Karen > > I have used it, but not recently. What you meant seems very clear to me, though. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 15:45:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HKjhWm004783 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:45:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:45:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006400C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:45:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 969276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:45:42 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HKjgsc018701 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:45:42 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 103793262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:45:41 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517134506.00c4b700@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:45:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <080001c55b11$6c39dbf0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:51 PM 5/17/2005 -0400, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Terry Wild" >>Happy Birthday Betty! And many many more! >> >>Terry > >... and a great big kiss from Alan! :-* Mwah! > >Did you wear your red hat at the party? ;-) Back atcha! No, no red hat for this party but that hat will always be special. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 16:10:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HL9sWm007513 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:09:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:10:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006401B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:09:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 972317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:09:54 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HL9rHC023355 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:09:54 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:09:53 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:09:45 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Reference Books For Sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU that's weird I did the same thing (with a different misspelling) and got the same result you did were you looking up "scotched" ? BrP >>> fluttervertigo@GMAIL.COM 05/17/05 4:26 PM >>> Thanks to a finger check, I found this: http://www.dicionary.com/ in a way, it's kind of clever. If you misspelled "dictionary', you can buy a dictionary (or other reference books) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 16:16:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HLGhWm008433 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:16:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 16:16:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006401D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:16:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 972669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:16:42 -0400 Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HLGgmZ024053 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:16:42 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.14 (built Oct 8 2003)) id <0IGN00401K09EJ@mail.hawaii.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:16:41 -1000 (HST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.14 (built Oct 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IGN00K45KE9EK@mail.hawaii.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:15:47 -1000 (HST) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:15:51 -1000 From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Subject: Re: Scotched? In-reply-to: <8ddfc8a705051713182c9211a8@mail.gmail.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-id: <4289D267.17093.A0065E@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 17 May 2005 at 15:18, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Is this not standard English? Sure it is. Just consult your friendly desktop dictionary. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 17:12:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HMChWm016880 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:12:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:12:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006403F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:02:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 977931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:02:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HM2g4B030516 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:02:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2590948nzo for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.7 with SMTP id q7mr2359126nzq; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:02:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jcSTXrkiKXX9HTfkuW/lWV4chfEf5tIhf7SRxE3j8yc7xldu+rHISXdHS9+aJUy/JpdvId0SE2jlNgZRPPPYUm3rCl1mzQo1/jBxFgeYPOmhTqmO57WCbhoy8SY/bhm8FOMcQDUPV/f1CVN0myX99AP4YlLt/CMUC1k8orQ2Ef4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051715026c744490@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:02:42 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Scotched? In-Reply-To: <4289D267.17093.A0065E@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051713182c9211a8@mail.gmail.com> <4289D267.17093.A0065E@localhost> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4HM2h4B030518 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/17/05, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 17 May 2005 at 15:18, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > Is this not standard English? > > Sure it is. Just consult your friendly desktop dictionary. Dictionaries are not uptodate on usage. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 17:14:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HME0Wm017012 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:14:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:14:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006403E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:13:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 979263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:13:59 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HMDxqc031676 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:13:59 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6F6B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:13:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200505172213.j4HMDxqc031676@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:13:59 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: it never rains but it pours To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, although I'm on vacation this week, I am writing from the office to let you all know that my Mom has been hospitalized for tests after chest pains. Mercy leaves tomorrow am for Munchen. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 17:17:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HMH3Wm017387 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:17:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:17:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006402ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:17:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 979432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:17:03 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HMH2D1032123 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:17:02 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6F6C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:17:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200505172217.j4HMH2D1032123@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:17:02 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Betty: To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 17 May 2005 14:29:19 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: >Happy Birthday Betty! And many many more! > >Terry Happy B'day, BB! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 17:28:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HMRuWm018517 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:27:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:28:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00640538@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:27:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 980892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:27:56 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HMRuDW001685 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:27:56 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.106.152]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517222756.JDYW2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:27:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.106.152]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517222755.ZPRI1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:27:55 -0400 Message-ID: <428A6FE7.80808@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:27:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > Did you ever consider hailing a taxi? > No. > Were there street performers >entertaining the crowd waiting for the cable cars? > > Yes. >>I'd never heard of -- have forgotten now what -- started with an F, I >>think. --Natalie >> >> > > Frangelico? It's derived from hazelnuts. > > Bingo! That is indeed what it was. Suddenly I'm trying to remember a liqueur I fell in love with that I think is also Italian (I'm assuming Frangelico is) but that is nothing at all like Frangelico -- it's sort of lemony maybe. It's not something well known -- as in not something you find at any bar or restaurant or you or your friends routinely have sitting around. But I can't remember what it is (or for that matter where I was introduced to it, though I think it was in relatively recent history -- like within the past five or six years). Hmm. I'm associating it now with my friends who live in Lynchburg, with whom I spent a night on the way to AcadiaFest. But I don't remember consuming lemony Italian liqueur at their house or at the restaurant we went to that night. I hate that my memory cells are withering. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 17:38:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HMcQWm019467 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:38:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:38:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F6F7B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:38:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 981424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:38:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HMcP5s002777 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:38:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so2172530wri for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.9 with SMTP id f9mr4617718wra; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 15:38:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=E4UsBPjbrt525hox2cgecmPreyOpiN244LTiyOf+hEIF3wbTwx1cGSnLsa+KY2xbQ70H2Ow9FeFif9dIhvlVMfWa2s4uG+lTcDbI2nch9TgeOdGW6oxdk+OoLilP9Oe/kPuSJ+ruyG+ewR5tq2WmqbK0gsYaD5KVt52DRFQIUYE= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:38:25 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <428A6FE7.80808@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> <428A6FE7.80808@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4HMcQWm019467 > > Suddenly I'm trying to remember a liqueur I fell in love with that I > think is also Italian (I'm assuming Frangelico is) but that is nothing > at all like Frangelico -- it's sort of lemony maybe. It's not something > well known -- as in not something you find at any bar or restaurant > -- Natalie Lemoncello -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 17:44:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HMiXWm019966 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:44:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 17:44:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064053B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:28:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 980963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:28:52 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HMSqIw001827 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:28:52 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.106.152]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517222852.JFBH2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:28:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.106.152]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517222852.ZPYG1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:28:52 -0400 Message-ID: <428A701F.90002@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:28:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Scotched? References: <8ddfc8a705051713182c9211a8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051713182c9211a8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >looked at me as if he were wondering what planet I came from, and he >asked "Scotched?" > >Is this not standard English? > > It sounds normal to my ears. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 18:08:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HN7nWm022465 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:07:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:08:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006406B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:00:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 984576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:00:41 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HN0f88006286 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:00:41 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.106.152]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517230041.RJJX12557.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:00:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.106.152]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517230041.EUFY23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:00:41 -0400 Message-ID: <428A7794.4070406@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:00:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> <428A6FE7.80808@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev quoted: >>well known -- as in not something you find at any bar or restaurant >> >> This is an example of why linguistics is fun. You do find it at SOME bars and restaurants -- just not at any old bar or restaurant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 18:08:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HN7nWm022464 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:07:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:08:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064068D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:58:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 984212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:58:21 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HMwLM8006003 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:58:21 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F6F8D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:58:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200505172258.j4HMwLM8006003@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:58:20 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Pictures To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 17 May 2005 18:38:25 -0400, bonniemaev wrote: >> >> Suddenly I'm trying to remember a liqueur I fell in love with that I >> think is also Italian (I'm assuming Frangelico is) but that is nothing >> at all like Frangelico -- it's sort of lemony maybe. It's not something >> well known -- as in not something you find at any bar or restaurant >> -- Natalie > > Lemoncello Ah, yes -- Limoncello *is* good; so is Strega. I've had each at bars/restaurants. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 18:08:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HN7nWm022463 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:07:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:08:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006404C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:57:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 984122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:57:48 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HMvmtI005925 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:57:48 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.106.152]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050517225748.RIHI12557.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:57:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.106.152]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050517225748.ETOZ23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:57:48 -0400 Message-ID: <428A76E7.4020805@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:57:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> <428A6FE7.80808@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > Lemoncello > > That is ringing a big bell in my head. I think that may be it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 18:19:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4HNJ1Wm023819 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:19:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:19:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00640733@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:19:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 987341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:19:01 -0400 Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4HNJ1CY009361 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:19:01 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.14 (built Oct 8 2003)) id <0IGN00G01PWS28@mail.hawaii.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:18:55 -1000 (HST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.14 (built Oct 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IGN00ID1Q3HJ3@mail.hawaii.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:18:55 -1000 (HST) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:18:59 -1000 From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Subject: Re: Scotched? In-reply-to: <8ddfc8a705051715026c744490@mail.gmail.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-id: <4289EF43.2722.110C23B@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Priority: normal References: <4289D267.17093.A0065E@localhost> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 17 May 2005 at 17:02, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Dictionaries are not uptodate on usage. Now, there are two possibilities here (well, three probably, but I won't get into the third one). 1. You think this is usage that is so new that it hasn't made it into current dictionaries. 2. You think that this is something that passed out of current use so long ago that it has disappeared from contemporary dictionaries. What's your theory? 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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 19:10:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4I0AoWm029171 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:10:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:10:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00640C96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:10:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 999802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:10:50 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4I00nE2014902 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:00:49 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j4I00n7D008691 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:00:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200505180000.j4I00n7D008691@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: grits/raisins Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I make my own granola. It's great. I also make my own > breakfast bars. Recipe, please. Thanks, Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 19:43:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4I0h1Wm001138 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:43:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:43:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00640D8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:43:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1003629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:43:00 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4I0h0F8019198 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:43:00 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005051800425801300qpjt1e>; Wed, 18 May 2005 00:42:59 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: those little things Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:42:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051619197f05400@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Hm. How would you feel about the Snowbash mixing of the Dish > and broccoli? > > > The only reason I'd object to it is if the broccoli had its own sauce. If > it's plain steamed broccoli, I'd probably mix it into the dish. The broccoli has tarragon butter on it. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 20:08:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4I18OWm004394 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:08:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:08:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00640F8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:08:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1004462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:08:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4I18OUG021299 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:08:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so98318wra for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.52 with SMTP id 52mr20561wrd; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:08:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DMc7UZnupOdX41SDykZcpbs9rR1po13y3+haefZ8E5B/taT9DbWeglmOb5LMcjnha6fduZy47kCqtd9nRS9L0jBK/ohXxJKDsHBf8fAWmo7wZmAo3nJssIS6QnKW5sg+0uwcIEL4ybnAQQJzsIdejWzdRqI1cq3C1mbwPCe4/ik= Message-ID: <4622719505051718081a99f8b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:08:23 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Regional influences Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4I18OUG021300 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Back in the good ole' days" a common discussion was who sounded like they came from where. I've run into several people over the previous five or six months (during interviews) who have asked me if I'm from Wisconsin or Minnesota - which I've visited at most for a couple of weeks. The most recent query was no more than two or three weeks ago. I thought I'd dredge it up. What is it a Wisconsin|Minnesota person is supposed to sound like which would make me sound that way? I'm not sure what mannerisms I [might] have from Central Indiana[1]. That would be offset by a *tremendous* quantity of time about an hour South of South Bend following the Chcago White Sox (tv when possible, radio otherwise) and any Chicago soccer on tv as that was the only access I had short of watching a college on the other side of town work out for their Fall Season [and going home to emulate them for practice]. [1] I know I differ from some people by pronouncing [] poor as poo-er vs. a homonym of pour [] the county I grew up in (Kosciusko) is Ka-shoe-s-ko, not kah-zee-oss-co as everyone else [here] does [] I don't pronounce Versailles as ver-sales; instead, ver-sigh (France), despite everyone in Indiana & Kentucky using the former. I met an editor of the Indianapolis Star at a party when I first graduated from college and there had been something in the Chicago Tribune about Versailles and she asked, "ver-sigh? Do you mean ver-sales?" "You haven't heard of Versaille in France? The Hall of Mirrors?" "You mean there's a ver-sales in France?" If I thought about it, I suppose I could some up with a sizeable list. But I'm not the one claiming to have come from elsewhere. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 20:19:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4I1JlWm005616 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:19:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:19:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00640DEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:19:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1004744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:19:46 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4I1Jk0x021918 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:19:46 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1563wra for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.44.51 with SMTP id r51mr22280wrr; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 18:19:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MvdvM48n34vvKJGKsGdrfaWUKQFdnO67YXZf40IkzrZmHcW6ax39STEW4DYJd5P5e3EUkkccW2mBk0Pk/0HiVoWE9s8ZSNEn+lZ6+4Ew8Qz+6P++wGr7WCEw92P3UZOdFhksbqhTTBB3/7L7BRyzuEdFn6Krvp6H+Oh7eKfNpgc= Message-ID: <46227195050517181938a00a5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:19:46 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Reference Books For Sale In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4I1Jk0x021919 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/17/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > that's weird > > I did the same thing (with a different misspelling) and got the same > result you did > > were you looking up "scotched" ? Maybe. But the only scotch I like is a single-malt. ;) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 20:58:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4I1wTWm010937 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:58:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 20:58:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00640FE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:48:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1005709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:48:29 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4I1mSW5024186 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:48:28 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.106.152]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050518014828.CVMR2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:48:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.106.152]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050518014828.NUJV9550.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:48:28 -0400 Message-ID: <428A9EE7.8010901@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:48:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional influences References: <4622719505051718081a99f8b8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505051718081a99f8b8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >[1] I know I differ from some people by pronouncing > >[] poor as poo-er vs. a homonym of pour > > I've never heard anybody anywhere pronounce it like pour except as a joke. >[] the county I grew up in (Kosciusko) is Ka-shoe-s-ko, not >kah-zee-oss-co as everyone else [here] does > > >[] I don't pronounce Versailles as ver-sales; instead, ver-sigh >(France), despite everyone in Indiana & Kentucky using the former. I > > Re both of the above, aren't there local pronunciations of most places -- as in Louisville, Kentucky, and Louisville, Mississippi, are not pronounced the same. That doesn't mean that people in Louisville, Mississippi, would pronounce Louisville, Kentucky, the same as their home town (though they'd probably say something like lewy-ville for the Kentucky city rather than the really local lewuhvul). If the people in your county of Kosciusko say ka-shoe-s-ko, then isn't that ? The town of Kosciusko, MS, otoh, is kah-zee-ess-ko. The quickest way in the world to catch a hired by a local tv station for news or weather is to hear him/her pronounce some of the local places -- like saying grenahda for grenayda, which is spelled Grenada -- or saying lafilETTE for laFAYette County, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 21:30:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4I2U4Wm017897 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:30:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:30:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00641021@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:10:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1006646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:10:02 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4I2A22o026175 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:10:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so10669wri for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.73 with SMTP id o73mr85861wro; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:09:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aI++OWZAvKgLllbn+9FTE9cEzcVK2UviUey+LSC5G3G/8d02zsU4tKLm3ZNDrknefC50qxsDYtZUNR3BRgwN+SWHOBnua3MSCjkIVXPXLSZ36u1ynqnj3huh2M8H4TXbeelSTJnad/RXy8yRp6k1HCLAZGCKB4lJF1VVF6f/9kU= Message-ID: <83db447a050517190971ceb6c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:09:49 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <428A76E7.4020805@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> <428A6FE7.80808@maynor.net> <428A76E7.4020805@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4I2U4Wm017897 On 5/17/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > bonniemaev wrote: > > > Lemoncello > > > > > That is ringing a big bell in my head. I think that may be it. At the Bryggenloftet (a restaurant on the bryggen in Bergen), my dessert was a lemon sorbet drowned in lemoncello. Very, very nice. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 21:30:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4I2U4Wm017899 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:30:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 21:30:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00641036@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:23:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1007243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:23:27 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4I2NQrX027196 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:23:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so14788wri for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.68 with SMTP id i68mr88022wri; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 19:23:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=C/AzxDojkfD+X3LuFvO0Ev9LRa6ca/D45ZNCD8mBMaXuTN5gONW/OPqqDpdWEwfNIu8pc1GdDjjUucC0HmO8BlKBvev2KJczdAHN8SjzB0/uZ+bEWK7NCAkH7ESSGtFd3h09MiJV+g1AW7VB2aYkxToxWBlH3BUMhcDDPAggfx4= Message-ID: <83db447a05051719234c43fdfa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:23:17 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional influences In-Reply-To: <4622719505051718081a99f8b8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4622719505051718081a99f8b8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4I2U4Wm017899 > > [1] I know I differ from some people by pronouncing > > [] poor as poo-er vs. a homonym of pour That's the pronunciation common where I grew up (Chicago and elsewhere in northern Illinois, northwestern Wisconsin) [] I don't pronounce Versailles as ver-sales; instead, ver-sigh Same here. By the way, did people where you grew up say KY-row or KAY-row for the town of Cairo? An interesting thing here in Maine (which I mentioned before, when I believe that you were absent): people pronounce Calais (Maine, on the Canadian border) as Kal-lus rather than Ka-LAY. I suspect that this is done to irritate the Francophiles of New Brunswick and Quebec. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 17 23:26:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4I4QRWm032190 for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 23:26:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 23:26:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7119E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 0:26:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1029555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 00:25:33 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4I4BXON004834 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 00:11:34 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005051804113301400kd3sie>; Wed, 18 May 2005 04:11:33 +0000 Message-ID: <428AC074.4080505@istori.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:11:32 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Flickr WLMs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One of my Flickr contacts has her birthday today, and has Norwegian mom and grandma: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinkpepperphoto/14336947/ Another contact from Brazil posted a picture of a cat being walked on a leash! http://www.flickr.com/photos/elizabeth-beta/14195213/ Even this picture of a knitted blouse hung on a wall kind of reminded me of Natalie's jungle pants picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/emilyd/14369359/ Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 00:28:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4I5SPWm006477 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 00:28:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 00:28:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00641E15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 1:28:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1034205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 01:28:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4I5SOaH011883 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 01:28:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so53243nzk for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.16 with SMTP id a16mr27064nzc; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:28:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OMYVtXB9vpC8CLpHr/ZKLT2xQiNhCvD55rGVdmM8NegzcdPiWguM3yPknpu3IvryPZHaGQYAOAhnT35fXJQOBf0EbG//jZJ4wUshU/BQbmWSNLiCVJbWyO6H4F8hNts04UsiODMoNB4ZxqmU92XTTt/FckxYtgK27zjJNrVJKXk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051722285628e921@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 00:28:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Scotched? In-Reply-To: <4289EF43.2722.110C23B@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4289D267.17093.A0065E@localhost> <8ddfc8a705051715026c744490@mail.gmail.com> <4289EF43.2722.110C23B@localhost> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4I5SPaH011890 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My current theory is that I'm so mentally and emotionally exhausted, I can't sleep. It's annoying. I'm thinking neither 1 nor 2--I'm thinking that it's in the dictionary, but has passed out of current fashion relatively recently, without my being aware of it. That's where you all come in. Karen On 5/17/05, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 17 May 2005 at 17:02, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > Dictionaries are not uptodate on usage. > > Now, there are two possibilities here (well, three probably, but I > won't get into the third one). > > 1. You think this is usage that is so new that it hasn't made it into > current dictionaries. > > 2. You think that this is something that passed out of current use so > long ago that it has disappeared from contemporary dictionaries. > > What's your theory? > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 00:31:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4I5VBWm006632 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 00:31:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 00:31:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00641C62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 1:31:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1034316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 01:31:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4I5VAKm012067 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 01:31:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so61944nzp for ; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr30703nzh; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Tue, 17 May 2005 22:31:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DJZ80656rwC51Fp0FwXLzZUAUkbSOsqktUFat87EICr08NZc7iB3dcfJjKxB8PDDfKuHbnEwS3iLHVoHkEcJzJoMIoC3vLw/BAb0acz/TWBpbK15E3XYrgQkk5XmE9f6+PmdMCJdAdNc+QPeMrdERltXZl9uIvXLUXhrihyl7EM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051722313cea4df1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 00:31:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <428A6FE7.80808@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> <428A6FE7.80808@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4I5VBKm012068 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/17/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Suddenly I'm trying to remember a liqueur I fell in love with that I > think is also Italian (I'm assuming Frangelico is) but that is nothing > at all like Frangelico -- it's sort of lemony maybe. Limoncello. It's easy to make yourself. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 06:08:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IB8RWm017687 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:08:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:08:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F71843@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 6:58:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1043582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:58:26 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IAwOt2002370 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:58:26 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.211.106]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050518105824.KJBZ2012.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:58:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.211.106]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050518105824.XIBE11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:58:24 -0400 Message-ID: <428B1FCA.1020104@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 05:58:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> <428A6FE7.80808@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051722313cea4df1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051722313cea4df1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Limoncello. It's easy to make yourself. > > I just got e-mail from my friend in Lynchburg (actually in Paris, but Lynchburg is an here) confirming that it was in fact with them that I had it -- that they'd discovered it when visiting her brother in Italy and had started buying it in Washington since it's hard to find in Lynchburg. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 06:17:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IBH4Wm018473 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:17:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:17:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F71892@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 7:17:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1044271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:17:03 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IBH3Fp027775 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:17:03 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.211.106]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050518111703.KPBJ2012.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:17:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.211.106]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050518111703.ITQZ25991.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:17:03 -0400 Message-ID: <428B2429.20506@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 06:16:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Exhumation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Re our recent discussion of the exhumation of Emmett Till's body, there's a letter to the editor in today's paper on the subject from an FBI person: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050518/OPINION/505180303/1009 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 07:07:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IC7ahm004363 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:07:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:07:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7193A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 8:07:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1045809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:07:36 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IC7akZ000558 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:07:36 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so178265wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 05:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.45.9 with SMTP id s9mr401246wrs; Wed, 18 May 2005 05:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 05:07:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=R8hzQrAXJINlukxVF1JRefdeKMRwa3Z96QDhSBm239fFxleWxKLHVMWvCQLmVbizmIsJ24o2aVzAJkSV0U9tUtf7MItMuc+2NRVbI9Z489AnJ3iSxEAeH/zJT4a5LgCR6tkDZDEGn4f/aE1b9BXsb8AIt/0/T5LnMZgInATR0PQ= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:07:35 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional influences In-Reply-To: <4622719505051718081a99f8b8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4622719505051718081a99f8b8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IC7ahm004363 > > What is it a Wisconsin|Minnesota person is supposed to sound like > which would make me sound that way? --phil > When people guess, correctly, that I'm from Wisconsin, they detect a certain Scandinavian cadence in my speech. When people guess, wrongly, that I'm from Pennsylvania, they still hear that same cadence and think of it as Pennsylvania Dutch. I was told in Norway that I look Norwegian. Other than being tall and, once, blond, there isn't much Scandinavian about me. My ancestry is almost completely German. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 07:11:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ICBUhm004789 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:11:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:11:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00642122@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 8:01:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1045310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:01:30 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IBpU19031231 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:51:30 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4IBpEXh016412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 18 May 2005 07:51:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 07:51:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?from_Espa=A4a?= Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IBpU19031232 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ah-ha - this hotel keyboard has tildes - weïll see if they come through to wl. Campus Del Mar is a university ho0tel, and it has a computer lab. I have read no archives since shortly before leaving K-ville yesterday - I may get to that late tomorrow or Friday. BMy first class is tomorrow 6-8:30. P.m. Then I have a 3-day weekend free before the 10-year anniversary celebration all day Monday - all in Catalan, I learned today. Should be interesting. I teach again on Tu and R next week: 2-6 and 6-8:30. Now it is nearing siesta time ... my trip was uneventful - it was crowded, since the flight was oversold. No upgrades were available - even for 3-4 times the price of my low-budget, less than full coach fare. Hasta la vista - Bethany From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 07:42:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ICgGhm008367 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:42:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:42:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006420B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 8:42:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1047266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:42:15 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ICgF2u004776 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:42:15 -0400 Received: from 204.127.197.116 ([204.127.197.116]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005051812421401400c2hcke>; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:42:14 +0000 Received: from [208.251.139.2] by 204.127.197.116; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:42:13 +0000 From: adamh1@comcast.net To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional influences Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:42:13 +0000 Message-Id: <051820051242.3452.428B3825000A664A00000D7C2200734830CE08030E0B0E@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: YWRhbWgxQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > An interesting thing here in Maine (which I mentioned before, when I believe > that you were absent): people pronounce Calais (Maine, on the Canadian > border) as Kal-lus rather than Ka-LAY. I suspect that this is done to > irritate the Francophiles of New Brunswick and Quebec. > cwv It's pronounced the same way (callous) in Vermont for both Calais and East Calais. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 08:29:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IDT1hm014745 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:29:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:29:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00642187@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 9:29:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1050221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:29:01 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IDT0fr012107 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:29:00 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2005051813295811100os8f4e>; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:29:58 +0000 Message-Id: <200505181329.j4IDT0fr012107@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Cc: "'Carolyn Ostrander'" Subject: RE: it never rains but it pours Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:29:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <200505172213.j4HMDxqc031676@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVbLdtAq68EJRhuRc6yx0rkCk+xgwAf2iEA Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 6:14 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: it never rains but it pours > >Well, although I'm on vacation this week, I am writing >from the office to let you all know that my Mom has >been hospitalized for tests after chest pains. >Mercy leaves tomorrow am for Munchen. >clo > Carolyn, Good luck with your Mom. Hospitals are a sucky place to spend time. Alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 08:40:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IDeihm016349 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:40:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:40:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064236F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 9:40:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1050867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:40:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IDehIg013577 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:40:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so204734wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.69.16 with SMTP id r16mr319072wra; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:40:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ii/IGRjGR51e/kN6aU5WJ8GIEqdhWlspN8OI3jKvojMrJAtsMN1zSv/eYxGYt/cSqFwR4br2PHanzHiwIpP+P22uvLhMryvScM1iFLHSB6+1L39vsJiRpS02xSYCkk3QNdx5kDm/OVpeL6gvdERArHg5SWgmzdtSMl7h/p9aqZk= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:40:43 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: For Bonnie? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IDeihm016349 Maybe I've finally found the perfect gift for Bonnie -- besides the $1.69 container of raw Virginia peanuts here on my desk. http://www.dirtybookart.com/ -- Which one: "Trailer Trollop" or "High-Class Tramp" ? Or should I just hold out for the Henckel's kitchen shears? -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 08:46:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IDkkhm017185 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:46:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:46:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642406@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 9:46:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1051223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:46:45 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IDkjN1014371 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:46:45 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:46:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:46:13 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: For Bonnie? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ok, somebody has to ask - what search led you to that particular site? BrP >>> marieber@GMAIL.COM 5/18/2005 9:40:43 AM >>> Maybe I've finally found the perfect gift for Bonnie -- besides the $1.69 container of raw Virginia peanuts here on my desk. http://www.dirtybookart.com/ -- Which one: "Trailer Trollop" or "High-Class Tramp" ? Or should I just hold out for the Henckel's kitchen shears? -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 08:49:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IDnVhm017654 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:49:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:49:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00642260@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 9:49:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1051652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:49:30 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IDnTDU015223 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:49:29 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so208069wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.78 with SMTP id k78mr322519wrk; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:49:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=acPFWacH0mSLZnRQjryJJpzmSQKt3l0cM0KXbbXfFREhFz+bOXCk1EbLIXfq8Kpt2CMxjPh3f/X3nf4mt0VlcGxOVBsuDByyAdT0XiJHEWzc5vtJBX605mKtjcp+gVfB/tWMJ00lY03F6+s94uyMqywqUjqazxgxCy2PonVLBW4= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:49:28 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IDnVhm017654 Oh and HB, BB!!!! On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > WHEN!!!!!?????!!!!! > Marie > > On 5/17/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > At 02:29 PM 5/17/2005 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: > > >Happy Birthday Betty! And many many more! > > > > > >Terry > > > > Thanks! See you in New York. > > > > Betty > > > > > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 08:59:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IDxAhm019081 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:59:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:59:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F71B6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 9:49:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1051613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:49:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IDn5Ea015109 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:49:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so207931wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.33.80 with SMTP id g80mr326383wrg; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:49:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=k51dYXvfo34s8Sdqemx/am3HFEEMjDXajCylqoJ6yHU0cxv37MhdGvUdo1oz+EisE6SYWmvs12aa/dlbXgtDx2LcwYZ3JjY5ixAd2mcT3QV1lO1+ah5HDF59ECnli4i+AWJbpXXDN5MtYRJIuQRhIwG2aAIYQxhe8MkhpBSEKtY= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:49:05 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IDxAhm019081 WHEN!!!!!?????!!!!! Marie On 5/17/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 02:29 PM 5/17/2005 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: > >Happy Birthday Betty! And many many more! > > > >Terry > > Thanks! See you in New York. > > Betty > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 09:16:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IEGKhm021431 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:16:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:16:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00642384@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 9:56:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1052214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:56:19 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IDuILs016840 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:56:19 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so210799wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.140.3 with SMTP id n3mr422272wrd; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 06:56:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=V8Ahb2rCxOs5B+f6j68o6eVibA/e37ODX3KuFdmp2tbL0hvaocdaKGRnkx1G9VSlidTqPM8/YH0n49YtJTExaPwVUUBe6LJcjgwSM8JVVzzjFePiQe9LuCLT2y+jdDCQ6LxHr6+MZcrPkoK9G1cF5KSg8FKs/fHsJg1xCV9nDSI= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:56:18 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> <4288E1F0.9030402@maynor.net> <4288E5EC.8010101@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IEGKhm021431 On 5/16/05, bonniemaev wrote: > I have no memory at all of who Katie was. So I guess I'm glad Tom won. > Tom seemed ok to me. -- Natalie > This won't help you remember, but Katie was the only woman on Survivor, in my memory, who didn't look skinny by the end of the 30+ days on the island. Yeah, her belly was jiggling during that obstacle course challenge and I thought the same thing. It looked like something I've come to know as "twin skin". But worse. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 09:27:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IER5hm023131 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:27:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:27:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F71D02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:27:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1055303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:27:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IER4UG024663 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:27:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so234910wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.25.52 with SMTP id 52mr467401wry; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:26:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QVh0A9ON/HjSPirY/eNQeaFKjA1oqec8apW5RHwqbDdKdHMbyLmYJtyjlgGSDhr1DHgYV9ggtw6KdGhh9hlVeCd1pIS6FpD793Q0nsECqqedqBO9q2I5MZ/Z8P+6ZjUG56rgrJSybbO5V+awzoWLSA0I1DrtodOJ/S9jAa+lF3A= Message-ID: <44dce1c10505180726745ff8c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:26:57 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IER4UG024664 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > WHEN!!!!!?????!!!!! > Marie > > Thanks! See you in New York. > > > > Betty > > July Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 09:36:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IEZthm024345 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:35:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:36:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642552@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:35:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1056230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:35:55 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IEZs77026696 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:35:54 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so239073wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.27.65 with SMTP id a65mr473518wra; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:35:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HVZ5aLwPdlItuQuCdQlw0NIuiTSKvgZkmVt0j2rQJ/8B0arVHTo9fXTzJO21nwxruMhfk/Ex15BnlIEj8EJNfEyQUHaf2hMTMdrx5LkTwMX3CEW5NAjaD3B5VVfg5RSOTf2Teb8bMHwnGmr1Oq18qE4E7kCJqo6tqOXCvtj4AA0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:35:54 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Bonnie? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IEZthm024345 > > Maybe I've finally found the perfect gift for Bonnie -- besides the $1.69 > container of raw Virginia peanuts here on my desk. Supposed to be raw Spanish peanuts. I don't think I've had any since Natalie brought some to Acadiafest. http://www.dirtybookart.com/ -- Which one: "Trailer Trollop" or "High-Class > Tramp" ? I am neither a tramp or a trollop. Nor am I trailer trash. Nor am I very high-class. >Or should I just hold out for the Henckel's kitchen shears? >Marie I already have a Henckel's kitchen shears. In any case, anything for the kitchen would not be for me. -- --bonniev, hard to please, only want what I asked for From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 09:53:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IEr5hm026809 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:53:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:53:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064241A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:50:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1057599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:50:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IEovIQ030282 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:50:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so234480wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.76.12 with SMTP id y12mr457943wra; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:50:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VSLVxjnLkSJr3UaiDwqnE9A4kmEtt8thoRXBgx+jz2aHQD9DQqJsjRCovZWlPqSUOfTdAKIx1wvEFQgWqTNtctYDED7BHsAu0cP9gTHWvb3uJebDwR+43nWuR90jG+OP57R94MGyyd+hJnQHojLpj3P6vMXUQ18WzwoMDxtXxD8= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:50:56 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York In-Reply-To: <428B55D5.9040605@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505180726745ff8c5@mail.gmail.com> <428B55D5.9040605@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IEr5hm026809 Oh, silly me. On 5/18/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > > Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > Private meeting? > > Marie, I think they might be talking about Finger-Fest. New York is > more than just a city :-) > > Rita L. > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 09:53:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IEr5hm026807 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:53:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:53:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006424BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:43:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1056689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:43:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IEh4L5028190 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:43:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so231105wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.46 with SMTP id x46mr434718wrx; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:43:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PCVS9nSAoP9I900tjzWNEkgeNlA/yTYhgZR6TOvS2j0H/iTBlJWkk0GCe3H3hR7pxW+CDeoRFk4NMPYG69aiwAoZATIZnsyzzSr1r8lHrpH2dylecNn7GeBTANg3VE0DOPHBRFpYI2jgys8184XgEbBq/jI9DBFTFYAkp6hL/Ig= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:43:03 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Bonnie? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IEr5hm026807 Well, not through here: http://www.gstringsforever.com/barticles.html It's an ad in this week's issue of The Onion. Marie On 5/18/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > ok, somebody has to ask - > > what search led you to that particular site? > > BrP > > >>> marieber@GMAIL.COM 5/18/2005 9:40:43 AM >>> > Maybe I've finally found the perfect gift for Bonnie -- besides the > $1.69 > container of raw Virginia peanuts here on my desk. > http://www.dirtybookart.com/ -- Which one: "Trailer Trollop" or > "High-Class > Tramp" ? > Or should I just hold out for the Henckel's kitchen shears? > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 09:53:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IEr5hm026810 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:53:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:53:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642599@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:46:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1057075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:46:52 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IEkqgq028914 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:46:52 -0400 Received: from [136.167.17.84] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.17.84] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 91975288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:45:49 -0400 Message-ID: <428B55D5.9040605@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:48:53 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: New York References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505180726745ff8c5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: > Private meeting? Marie, I think they might be talking about Finger-Fest. New York is more than just a city :-) Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 09:54:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IEsFhm026932 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:54:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:54:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F71DA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:44:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1056805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:44:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IEi1pg028329 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:44:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so231490wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.15 with SMTP id 15mr354125wro; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:44:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RMaLK+IG/L6RJkFiTftuLXo8fH6P18vARoK3I3goX46p7x6P3YUjVLhcnT4fJfChn7aei6ln/lKi0cc0gEVuaVRtjPWVCEPxQcQcYBYvXVyi8X0rGepuPLlXkVD9U4n1saZwfqYsuaxjoi+gxb0IU0O+qcP0nCuda00XSMzJ9KA= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:44:00 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: <44dce1c10505180726745ff8c5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505180726745ff8c5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IEsFhm026932 Private meeting? On 5/18/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > WHEN!!!!!?????!!!!! > > Marie > > > > Thanks! See you in New York. > > > > > > Betty > > > > > July > > Terry > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:13:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFDOhm029422 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:13:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:13:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00642439@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:53:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1057789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:53:23 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IErNBj030637 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:53:23 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:53:22 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:53:13 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: New York Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What's the Zipcode for Chopped Liver, NY ? BrP >>> marieber@GMAIL.COM 5/18/2005 10:50:56 AM >>> Oh, silly me. On 5/18/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > > Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > Private meeting? > > Marie, I think they might be talking about Finger-Fest. New York is > more than just a city :-) > > Rita L. > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:13:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFDOhm029424 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:13:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:13:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064257C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:00:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1059060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:00:45 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IF0jDD000820 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:00:45 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F71ED0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:00:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200505181500.j4IF0jDD000820@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:00:45 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 18 May 2005 09:29:00 -0400, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>Well, although I'm on vacation this week, I am writing >>from the office to let you all know that my Mom has >>been hospitalized for tests after chest pains. >>Mercy leaves tomorrow am for Munchen. >>clo >> > >Carolyn, > >Good luck with your Mom. Hospitals are a sucky place to spend time. > > >Alec > Thanks - more will be known after tests today, but it appears she was having some kind of "cardiac event". There are medical complications - rheumatoid arthritis and other illnesses that were brought on by the r.a. medications she's been taking for 30 years - that make anything pretty serious (depressed immune system and so on). Not fun. Meanwhile, day 3 of my vacation and I'm at the office ! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:13:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFDOhm029428 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:13:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:13:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642624@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:59:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1058811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:59:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IExM25000410 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:59:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so238113wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.70 with SMTP id e70mr458505wre; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 07:59:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jVgZ7uq09eF2IaRyj+qFv2myEbLt/675NFOWfyLNw481c78f1c7+YgcH+lOJ4sQ35tCT37WNgJ/JqDGbCIJODHNZ8jrGiHJhnXwHjUeukonxd9eL/Aur1cIVArdOMdW8BChxltwpPfJLN8Cnp2uf9E6gmhi3oW2Z76lw5a1Ozp4= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:59:22 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional influences In-Reply-To: <428A9EE7.8010901@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4622719505051718081a99f8b8@mail.gmail.com> <428A9EE7.8010901@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IFDOhm029428 On 5/17/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > phil paxton wrote: > > >[1] I know I differ from some people by pronouncing > > > >[] poor as poo-er vs. a homonym of pour > > > I've never heard anybody anywhere pronounce it like pour except as a joke. Ask me sometime. >[] the county I grew up in (Kosciusko) is Ka-shoe-s-ko, not >kah-zee-oss-co as everyone else [here] does There's a bridge and a mustard in NY and I don't think either of these pronunciations works, but I've always had a tough time with this one. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:13:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFDOhm029427 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:13:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:13:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00642553@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:54:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1058205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:54:45 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IEsjRt031405 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:54:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC1B997BD for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:54:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11727-07 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:54:42 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5944899785 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:50:16 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428B55CC.4020105@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:48:44 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 References: In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.194 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>Come see my four favorite shots from this year which I just put >>into an album and labelled Hawaii-05. Gee that sounds familiar. >> >> >> - D. M. >> >> > >Oh, I liked the last one - the palms, pool, and ocean. Nice composition. > Yes, the composition is a part of what makes me enjoy them. A little surprise every time you click 'next'. Like, the foamy waves on the last but one, and then twilight, almost dark. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:29:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFTLhm031088 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:29:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:29:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642697@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:24:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1060845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:24:07 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IFO76D006531 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:24:07 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104053861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:24:07 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518082237.00bebcb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:24:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours In-Reply-To: <200505181500.j4IF0jDD000820@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Thanks - more will be known after tests today, but it appears she was >having some kind of "cardiac event". There are medical complications - >rheumatoid arthritis and other illnesses that were brought on by >the r.a. medications she's been taking for 30 years - that make >anything pretty serious (depressed immune system and so on). > >Not fun. Meanwhile, day 3 of my vacation and I'm at the office >! >clo So sorry! I don't know of anyone who needs a vacation more than you after what you have been doing, well, except maybe Karen. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:29:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFTLhm031090 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:29:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:29:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006426AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:28:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1061166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:28:14 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IFR8pW007097; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:27:09 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104054752; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:27:08 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518082444.00bbc4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:27:08 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, and the kids won't let us bring Nathaniel this time either. I don't think they will ever let him out of their sight. Betty At 10:49 AM 5/18/2005 -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: >Oh and HB, BB!!!! > >On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > > WHEN!!!!!?????!!!!! > > Marie FingerFest. Is that name going to stick? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:29:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFTLhm031092 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:29:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:29:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006424C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:19:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1060486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:19:21 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IFJKo2005201 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:19:20 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104052628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:19:20 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518081900.00c17e78@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:19:19 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: For Bonnie? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Looking for "little people"? Betty At 09:46 AM 5/18/2005 -0400, you wrote: >ok, somebody has to ask - > >what search led you to that particular site? > >BrP > > > >>> marieber@GMAIL.COM 5/18/2005 9:40:43 AM >>> >Maybe I've finally found the perfect gift for Bonnie -- besides the >$1.69 >container of raw Virginia peanuts here on my desk. > http://www.dirtybookart.com/ -- Which one: "Trailer Trollop" or >"High-Class >Tramp" ? > Or should I just hold out for the Henckel's kitchen shears? > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:29:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFTLhm031093 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:29:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:29:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006426B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:29:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1061274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:29:18 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IFTIrb007545 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:29:18 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.47]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050518152918.JPUV2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:29:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.47]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050518152916.NAFL8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:29:16 -0400 Message-ID: <428B5F4B.5000803@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:29:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> <4288E1F0.9030402@maynor.net> <4288E5EC.8010101@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: > Yeah, her belly was jiggling during that obstacle course challenge and I >thought the same thing. > > I still haven't gotten around to watching the tape from last Thursday's Survivor -- maybe tonight. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:30:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFUBhm031247 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:30:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:30:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006426B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:30:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1061329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:30:10 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IFUAZA007769 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:30:10 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.47]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050518153009.JQSF2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:30:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.47]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050518153009.NAOB8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:30:09 -0400 Message-ID: <428B5F80.7020307@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:30:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Bonnie? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > Supposed to be raw Spanish peanuts. I don't think I've had any since >Natalie brought some to Acadiafest. > > I need to check the Walmarts here for them. Wmart in Starkville had them, though not necessarily all of the time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:45:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFjghm000478 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:45:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:45:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642739@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:43:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1063054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:43:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IFhbvm010743 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:43:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so255873wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.107.4 with SMTP id f4mr387271wrc; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:43:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aM/l4A2dQDC5ilnFPd1s/W3YpAjjxRGlfzNNnsZmKP7RrnXnMXeqvJksXLSI60tvqxc7m0/BZ9+K6qXF9jS7tfkY9se0EUnIpySdaUQ9oKUYwLEfSKE6jhm4EZG9EhuTlOiWk5KevhNAq2daOf56UDig4zsWSWadup6C79p9pP0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:43:37 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Bonnie? In-Reply-To: <428B5F80.7020307@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <428B5F80.7020307@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IFjghm000478 I'm devastated to have gotten this wrong. Marie On 5/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > bonniemaev wrote: > > > Supposed to be raw Spanish peanuts. I don't think I've had any since > >Natalie brought some to Acadiafest. > > > > > I need to check the Walmarts here for them. Wmart in Starkville had > them, though not necessarily all of the time. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:45:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFjghm000476 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:45:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:45:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064251A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:35:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1061707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:35:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IFZaeZ008895 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:35:36 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so252889wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.78 with SMTP id k78mr377881wrk; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:35:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=roWMn4UwEGdBXFWeGaOV2ceIJZv0YsU+DQ5ujiSHoodhva+zQxoEXEaq6Fhsg9hGJXva+535OaRwWSeOar5earwAuOyd05LRl0iKh1SgLOa2NOJ7+9XM/TmmN+APiwkH07A3v/OaYV6DvxkBZS4n/NphunH5/KR089CBa2dSPD0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:35:31 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518082237.00bebcb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505181500.j4IF0jDD000820@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050518082237.00bebcb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IFjghm000476 On 5/18/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > >Thanks - more will be known after tests today, but it appears she was > >having some kind of "cardiac event". There are medical complications - > >rheumatoid arthritis and other illnesses that were brought on by > >the r.a. medications she's been taking for 30 years - that make > >anything pretty serious (depressed immune system and so on). > > > >Not fun. Meanwhile, day 3 of my vacation and I'm at the office > >! > >clo > > So sorry! I don't know of anyone who needs a vacation more than you after > what you have been doing, well, except maybe Karen. No -- ME!!!! -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:47:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFlFhm000721 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:47:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:47:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00642596@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:47:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1063409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:47:15 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IFlE2U011576; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:47:14 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104061624; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:47:14 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518084417.00c2a718@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:47:13 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518082237.00bebcb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <200505181500.j4IF0jDD000820@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050518082237.00bebcb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:35 PM 5/18/2005 -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: >On 5/18/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > So sorry! I don't know of anyone who needs a vacation more than you after > > what you have been doing, well, except maybe Karen. > > No -- ME!!!! > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com I think of you often when I see my sleep deprived mothers of twins, and their girls are fussy. They have a nanny three days a week. Your nanny a keeper? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:49:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFn4hm000993 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:49:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:49:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064275C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:49:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1063662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:49:03 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IFn2Ih012153 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:49:03 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104062360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:49:02 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518084828.00c2b678@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:49:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: For Bonnie? In-Reply-To: References: <428B5F80.7020307@maynor.net> <428B5F80.7020307@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Send them to me and I'll take the shirts, too. LOL One of the Little People At 12:43 PM 5/18/2005 -0300, you wrote: >I'm devastated to have gotten this wrong. > Marie > > On 5/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > Supposed to be raw Spanish peanuts. I don't think I've had any since > > >Natalie brought some to Acadiafest. > > > > > > > > I need to check the Walmarts here for them. Wmart in Starkville had > > them, though not necessarily all of the time. > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 10:56:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IFuhhm002387 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:56:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:56:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F72113@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:56:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1064144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:56:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IFug55013640 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:56:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so277191wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.135.7 with SMTP id i7mr535172wrd; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 08:56:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pZgvkVXkhICA+IvbAGTk4XpfeZEdmYs2opZGoOwvzghAhf/dV/7EjIIh4oshuhU5/I6Q1f7HjOO1huYAsgr609Cs9IZCVjWdUeYWnRfPOmeBMyRh9Oq1AG+l0M3JabWfRKkw7XSscp2/S5m8GOCsiMhUEfSo0VnkD+gIBDN1aFU= Message-ID: <44dce1c10505180856424f046@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:56:42 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Betty: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <14777978.20050516125720@gailndan.com> <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505180726745ff8c5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IFug55013641 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Private meeting? > The Gathering. Upstate. I would never *think* of going to *the city* without letting you know. Are you coming to Fingerfest? Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 11:22:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IGMnhm005663 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:22:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:22:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006427E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:12:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1065680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:12:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IGCW6C016546 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:12:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so284268wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.28.52 with SMTP id b52mr362378wrb; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 09:12:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jOqtXgNeC+o6vy3msAPaHCu/kTr1v7BY1H01KHLCnmR+AuizsCR92iqeggKDsdl/V8QyUlrJFHNyASoBuysAFhru9J4P0KKKoqLTpJd2VANQG/r9fXcIcoXDr0wWMbyYiPYA+XNi8MgOEwg3UjG1+GhRA/vy/rezGFHh9/3Zpi0= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050518091223afd823@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:12:32 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours In-Reply-To: <200505172213.j4HMDxqc031676@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505172213.j4HMDxqc031676@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IGCX6C016547 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/17/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Well, although I'm on vacation this week, I am writing > from the office to let you all know that my Mom has > been hospitalized for tests after chest pains. > Mercy leaves tomorrow am for Munchen. > clo > Hope your Mom's doing better and it is nothing too serious. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 11:26:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IGQYhm006234 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:26:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:26:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064281F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:26:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1066262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:26:34 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IGQYNH018537 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:26:34 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2005051816273111200b8fuhe>; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:27:31 +0000 Message-Id: <200505181626.j4IGQYNH018537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: First Communion Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:26:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcVbxltQUY4qLTiGRoqkv9lI8JjHOQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi, We are going to a friend's son First Communion at a Catholic Church this weekend., what is the usual dress code for these events. I was thinking a pair of dress pants, shoes and a button down shirt. The son will not care, he is 8 or 9. Thanks for the fashion advice. Alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 11:27:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IGR1hm006292 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:27:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:27:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642820@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:27:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1065802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:27:01 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4IGH0FH016973 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:17:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 97493 invoked by uid 1003); 18 May 2005 16:16:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:16:57 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Message-ID: <20050518161657.GA94949@words-l.org> References: <4289CE00.8090302@gmail.com> <428A0513.6030905@akad.ee> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517082447.00c1f628@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505171129243a1463@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050517114005.00c5acc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44dce1c10505180726745ff8c5@mail.gmail.com> <428B55D5.9040605@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No yer not silly ... Who the hell says "New York" like that? More than just a city is a false statement. On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 11:50:56AM -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Oh, silly me. > > On 5/18/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > > > > Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > > > Private meeting? > > > > Marie, I think they might be talking about Finger-Fest. New York is > > more than just a city :-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 12:35:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IHZehm015617 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:35:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:35:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00642931@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:35:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1072515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:35:40 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IHZdb6029801 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:35:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF9D998DB for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:35:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00885-01 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:35:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4674998D9 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:35:36 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428B7CDF.3040408@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:35:27 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Chopin players Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wonder how many of you have listened to Frederick Moyer, and what you think of him. Why I ask this is that I remember him playing Chopin here in Tartu some 10-15 years ago (well, maybe 11-12). I'm not sure whether I had had the possibility to listen to Vyatcheslav Novikov playing Chopin by that time, maybe I had. I surely had listened to Ivari Ilja, an Estonian pianist, quite recognized at that time, both here and elsewhere, and certainly much more recognized than at that time in many countries now. Anyway, with the background I had, with recordings involved, Moyer seemed to me to be over-emotional, a bit aggressive, pedalling too much..., not deep at all, but rather searching for superficial effects. Now, after listening to I.Ilja tonight at his concert, and taking into consideration my other listenings to Chopin's works during all the years meanwhile I began thinking that maybe I was unjust in what I thought about Moyer years ago. What may your impressions be? (I googled for him and got many links, containing phrases like 'renowned pianist', etc., but haven't read them yet. Besides, it may take quite much reading before I can decide which critics I want to trust. Probably I rather should search for his recordings from somewhere to get fresh impressions.) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 12:38:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IHcThm016064 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:38:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:38:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F72517@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:38:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1072956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:38:28 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IHcRvK030385 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:38:27 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so300304wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.46 with SMTP id x46mr526176wrx; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:38:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nuGD0huXOX/XTeFvLuuJO+a/oyqMH/hqsgbv7ZgGX6eu/VsE5kpKy2whslwvwvjMekji8Hi8RzLlQ5ACBnoaK2WBq3FvfdghPsd3P6dv0wgAPn13b4j8h0+7yyRXCKwqocRKqlAPDRZkoXw4ST9TKDgZ21Ng6UzHhD7TH/7strE= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:38:26 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours In-Reply-To: <200505172213.j4HMDxqc031676@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505172213.j4HMDxqc031676@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IHcThm016064 On 5/17/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Well, although I'm on vacation this week, I am writing > from the office to let you all know that my Mom has > been hospitalized for tests after chest pains. > Mercy leaves tomorrow am for Munchen. > clo > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 12:48:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IHmAhm017389 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:48:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:48:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00642968@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:39:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1073111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:39:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IHdXO2030635 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:39:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so300739wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.15 with SMTP id 15mr445645wro; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:39:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UZ1IQTtbc/7+v4880rw0NnFZWxP5dzOsBYepSRqy5sEUiXkrjKhCzd0IOU9A/7e1UxNOuaGL2GMZ1YZ5sy02JZB+NWPvV/6RlKALL09mEyz1lO2zrutjtkoxjp0mldCGex5SIARbXytkVA4K/WRKm73H/bbZgRBwb8pQW7YYWkQ= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:39:33 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505172213.j4HMDxqc031676@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IHmAhm017389 oops (for lots of stuff). I am very sorry to hear this, Carolyn. My best wishes are with you! Keep us posted. Marie On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > > On 5/17/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > > Well, although I'm on vacation this week, I am writing > > from the office to let you all know that my Mom has > > been hospitalized for tests after chest pains. > > Mercy leaves tomorrow am for Munchen. > > clo > > > > > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 12:48:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IHmAhm017388 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:48:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:48:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00642893@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:47:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1073731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:47:47 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IHlkVf032027 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:47:46 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CB9998F2 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:47:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01998-01 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:47:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C968998E9 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:47:44 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428B7FB4.6020303@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:47:32 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: contract language References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050507185821.05a58770@calmail.berkeley.edu> <427D7483.8060608@maynor.net> <574537031.20050509053729@gailndan.com> <427FE147.6020705@maynor.net> <1733826475.20050510013628@gailndan.com> <42809BB6.9010202@maynor.net> <394750539.20050510064437@gailndan.com> <4280AE5A.4030104@maynor.net> <1392595630.20050510065821@gailndan.com> <4280B999.8010201@maynor.net> <4280C4A5.6000306@akad.ee> <767547411.20050510235752@gailndan.com> <428259B9.2010508@akad.ee> <16610686540.20050512003546@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <16610686540.20050512003546@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.484 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >5/11/2005, 1:15 PM, Kristin Sarv wrote: > >>How does a credit card have the protection, >> or a better >> protection, against fraud? > > >>(This is a question, I'm not trying to talk >>back.) >>From all that I've read, if your card is lost and funds are taken from >your account, or if it is used fraudulently for a purchase, the bank >won't give you your money back. On a credit card they will, though in >some cases only for amounts over fifty bucks. > > Natalie wrote: >I'm sure it varies in different places, but I think most credit cards in >the US include automatic protection making you liable for only $50 of >fraudulent charges. There are >stories floating around (quite likely ULs) about people's whole checking >accounts being wiped out because of a stolen debit card. > > I'm quite late going to answer some messages I meant to. Yes, it must vary. I'm afraid my credit card doesn't have such a protection -- I usually read contracts quite carefully and I do not remember any such issue. But thanks for explaining. >I'm laughing at your parenthetical last sentence -- laughing because I >find it strange and annoying that so often on Words-L when somebody asks >a question, somebody else assumes that it's "talking back" or > rather than asking a question because you're interested in >the answer. > > Well, there probably seemed to be some nervousness in the air, in messages of the thread. I apparently wished to prevent any misreading. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 12:48:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IHmAhm017385 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:48:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:48:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642A09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:38:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1072925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:38:09 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IHc3RV030319 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:38:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so300164wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.33.53 with SMTP id g53mr537786wrg; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:38:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JD3ZBMFAXFvUF2bilARHvgUBNYwgxA2ljz35PLdP7w2UFr88YcrlC0pNHvug+EadrpgABJuoR/Nyvz5FTGvpQxJbyi7/5vAdvhoODD/5z/0QqPjsAhV0mZUvsDrWwG4I+RbolRo9WEApCk+BPCuP0eaFwlTVzQHxrnZFpxbT/co= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:38:03 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: First Communion In-Reply-To: <200505181626.j4IGQYNH018537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505181626.j4IGQYNH018537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IHmAhm017385 Sounds fine. Jacket and tie would be optional in my RC family anyway. Marie On 5/18/05, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > Hi, > > We are going to a friend's son First Communion at a Catholic Church this > weekend., what is the usual dress code for these events. I was thinking a > pair of dress pants, shoes and a button down shirt. The son will not care, > he is 8 or 9. > > Thanks for the fashion advice. > > Alec > > ------------ > Alec D. Plotkin > plotkina@att.net > > "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" > - > Albert Einstein > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 12:50:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IHoYhm017681 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:50:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:50:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642A5E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:50:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1073925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:50:33 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IHoXO6032593 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:50:33 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104103735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 10:42:38 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518104047.00c18588@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:42:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: First Communion In-Reply-To: <200505181626.j4IGQYNH018537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:26 PM 5/18/2005 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, > >We are going to a friend's son First Communion at a Catholic Church this >weekend., what is the usual dress code for these events. I was thinking a >pair of dress pants, shoes and a button down shirt. The son will not care, >he is 8 or 9. > >Thanks for the fashion advice. > > >Alec Sounds just fine. Good rule of thumb is a shirt with a collar. Bonnie's t-shirt wouldn't do. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 12:59:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IHxKhm018403 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:59:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:59:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642A86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:59:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1074610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:59:20 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IHxJhS001626 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:59:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934359990D for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:59:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03163-09 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:59:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0EE9999C for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:52:57 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428B80EC.2090805@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:52:44 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours References: <200505181500.j4IF0jDD000820@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505181500.j4IF0jDD000820@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.486 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Thanks - more will be known after tests today, but it appears she was >having some kind of "cardiac event". There are medical complications - >rheumatoid arthritis and other illnesses that were brought on by >the r.a. medications she's been taking for 30 years - that make >anything pretty serious (depressed immune system and so on). > > I hope she'll get help. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 13:20:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IIKVhm021863 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:20:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:20:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00642984@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:20:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1076619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:20:31 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IIKUkF005644 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:20:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1977699915 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:20:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05708-07 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:20:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D5B99948 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:20:28 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428B8758.8050806@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:20:08 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And tonight's story is called... References: <8ddfc8a705051619313ba21bf1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051619313ba21bf1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.489 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Nanook climbs a tree! All by himself! Several times! > The last exclamation above must mean he can get down as well. All by himself? This is really wonderful. Kristin >Just to show he can! > >What a wonderful cat. > >Karen > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 13:20:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IIKahm021873 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:20:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:20:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F72606@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:10:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1075731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:10:35 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IIAYHU003988 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:10:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131B199931 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:10:34 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04580-09 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:10:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAC999915 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:08:59 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <428B84AB.3070407@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:08:43 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <428A0EA8.90507@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <428A0EA8.90507@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.488 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > And here's a picture of my prize for being the Wordsler who traveled the > farthest. The picture doesn't do it justice. It's a wonderful fan. > It's not sitting in its permanent location yet because I keep changing > my mind about where its permanent location is going to be. It's sitting > in a chair while I'm pondering the matter: > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/SF/fan.jpg O! (in awe) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 13:29:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IITihm022632 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:29:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:29:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006429C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:29:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1077500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:29:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IITh8V007060 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:29:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so323493wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.120.5 with SMTP id s5mr470075wrc; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:29:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sckC+KL03J4EvqaeyA2D1WM4My2EHFn/bdc/IxfNeItoqYiT8U/eiQtOu3y8obso5+nW951/cFd8L4nczK6E7NVN8QbENXBtiiXMoX63jfeNG8Y0CCnsTvXa1MfwOmwk3ClcdJ485nmZlz266CV/7B4GX7A85YlVktgzz3fB02c= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:29:42 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Bonnie? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518084828.00c2b678@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <428B5F80.7020307@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050518084828.00c2b678@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IITihm022632 Your address, madam? On 5/18/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > Send them to me and I'll take the shirts, too. LOL > > One of the Little People > > At 12:43 PM 5/18/2005 -0300, you wrote: > >I'm devastated to have gotten this wrong. > > Marie > > > > On 5/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > > > bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > > > Supposed to be raw Spanish peanuts. I don't think I've had any since > > > >Natalie brought some to Acadiafest. > > > > > > > > > > > I need to check the Walmarts here for them. Wmart in Starkville had > > > them, though not necessarily all of the time. > > > > > > -- > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Marie > >marieber@gmail.com > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 13:32:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IIWPhm023013 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:32:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:32:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006429D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:32:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1077808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:32:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IIWO8C007548 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:32:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so324819wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.70 with SMTP id e70mr566998wre; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=mOZS3WtO4U57z7I8NVajDi38GnXIShPxK1c665dPgO++7XqxFuHgj02fsvng9dtLxJwkmfGmtds3kJVcp+B7gBywE5hAxtnVjnfhVVI9VqDxLNJs1ite0PNk4lxXPqzC9zv+Sr0QAxpfjAZOJkJ7hupvoSq2HuFwMs8/S6kcJgg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:32:23 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Raw Peanuts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IIWPhm023013 I am feeling a little peckish and thought WTH, maybe I'll just eat these unwanted peanuts myself, and on a whim I checked how many WW points are in a cup -- 22!! That would be a whole day's allotment -- and not a good way to lose the twinskin!! -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 13:49:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IInMhm025159 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:49:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:49:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642BAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:39:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1078334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:39:21 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IIdL2w008562 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:39:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so349366wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.81.14 with SMTP id e14mr624119wrb; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BLcjG0F2qYK1QFVaMKpn8FKqSmi73QOG9RVD/WryU999rYW305cEypaaoefDfgnODEykY3OCCt1QkCKyO2ZYzsycc11DaTYGWhzbsj3IES04688HM5qkzjWBWbzJGIKjQgI4OSeoWz9uDsUT+PyNR3nHZjiO6j6qgf5v+NpsUdM= Message-ID: <4622719505051811396c24e8d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:39:20 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours In-Reply-To: <200505181329.j4IDT0fr012107@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505172213.j4HMDxqc031676@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200505181329.j4IDT0fr012107@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IIdL2w008564 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 6:14 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: it never rains but it pours >Well, although I'm on vacation this week, I am writing >from the office to let you all know that my Mom has >been hospitalized for tests after chest pains. >Mercy leaves tomorrow am for Munchen. >clo We've got two (three?) dedicated (and more planned) heart-only facilities here in Indianapolis - Holly & I went about two months ago to spend some time with a close friend of the family - she and her husband really are part of the family. Anyway, these places are advertised as being more like a hotel than a hospital. When you walk in, it does look like a hotel. The rooms are larger, a pull-down twin bed for someone to sleep with the patient, there's no paper - everything has been digital since it opened. I kept looking around at everything. And I couldn't get one thought out of my mind: It is still a hospital. And spending time there would be no different than staying at any other hospital. It didn't feel any different visiting Connie there. We sat & talked like we would at any other hospital, joked about the food, talked about when her surgery would be, how long it would be before she could go home, what the doctors were like. All of the other trappings are a facade. Do you know what qualifies a patient to get in there? $$$$$ Unless you have very good insurance, you're going back to a "regular" hospital. Medicaid & Medicare are not likely to cover such a stay. And this is where all of the "top" cardiac physicians are leveraging to work. (Holly's researched this from within work at her hospital, which owns one of them) As a visitor, and likely as a patient, no matter how you try to giftwrap it, again, it's still a hospital, even if they think they have better food, softer chairs, newer TVs, and a smaller housekeeping staff to empty the wastebaskets because there isn't as much paperwork to be thrown away and picked up.. Regardless of when it is or where we have a loved one as a patient, there's never a good time for them to be sick or injured. It's the worst feeling in the world. The only things we can do with our time are worry, pray, and try to find change to live off of the "kitchen that never closes" - the vending machine. Eventually, we feel we need a break from worry & pray, only to be told by someone watching us we should go find some 'real' food in the cafeteria instead of providing financial support to the owners of the vending machine. For some reason, I tried that advice....once. I found out my sense of taste changed during a span of waiting. "Real" food just didn't cut it. I think the fact it's too far away from "home base" and the flavor drops off proportionally to the distance we are from where we were. Carrying it back doesn't maintain the flavor. And this is not a situation where we'd carry in a picnic - so that's out of the question. So what do we do? Pray, love, and push as much hope as we can through all of the doors and walls between us. We wouldn't wish the circumstances on anyone else and no matter what, we know our only place is where we are. And that's where we're supposed to be. Praying, loving, and pushing that hope for all we're worth. Hang in there, Carolyn. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 13:49:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IInMhm025160 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:49:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:49:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642BB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:42:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1078515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:42:12 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IIgAsb008996 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:42:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so350718wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.45.9 with SMTP id s9mr612539wrs; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:42:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tImBYZ7C4GWm0KNKnDwUXlRYNYhDvWJ+YRe27PVkXMGQxV6pRoUeoCOozRVecb9DKlwqwM5RDZz6zVZZzyPJ6QO2cTfrHcoNhUXl8WLDBTvfZvjPiJbV97PDJ9JYEdQftZ63CMoyvdXXykmoG5BnokLswt9RLY0L0jZf+BEzaV4= Message-ID: <462271950505181142369ac04a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:42:10 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Raw Peanuts In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IIgBsb008999 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > I am feeling a little peckish and thought WTH, maybe I'll just eat these > unwanted peanuts > myself, and on a whim I checked how many WW points are in a cup -- 22!! That > would be > a whole day's allotment -- and not a good way to lose the twinskin!! So you aren't a follower of "calorie averaging"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 13:50:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IIoFhm025246 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:50:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:50:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642BE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:50:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1079137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:50:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IIoE1n010218 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:50:15 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so354786wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.44.61 with SMTP id r61mr131905wrr; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:50:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UX9zVz1WNFAzyW0LXpkwhS5hgNZGtdvIWCnhJjkF3dzpxE0FdBVGXz73TFZA/6njKjq5kKtf4IuvGDeX/K0/jT/rN61419aliBezZTX/5RrxF75HNwadOL7BylXtaJvhV3Qwqayx+O3CDmj0+1c3YQCQWLNjC0UpVo5Rd2bklKo= Message-ID: <46227195050518115075e16840@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:50:14 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Does Natalie know In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051505126b9930a9@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705051508062635d3c3@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505151612a19133e@mail.gmail.com> <42889D7D.2060502@maynor.net> <4288E1F0.9030402@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IIoF1n010219 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/16/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > Uh oh. I need to alert my friends in France and Spain that I won't be > > taping the next two weeks for them and that the tape they left set won't > > be taping the right thing. I assume that the tape I made of Thursday > > worked. I haven't tried it yet. Should I watch it? Was it > > interesting? Who were the final two, and who won? I lost interest when > > my choice for winner (Steph) was ousted. -- Natalie > > It's probably worth watching that Thursday night's show. It is what set up > the final. I didn't think the final two hours were all that great. Maybe I > was in a bad mood. I didn't even bother to watch the reuion show. > The final two were Tom and Katie. Tom kept winning immunity. Tom won the > million dollars. I thought the question and answer period was especially > mean-spirited. I didn't think either Tom or Katie were all that awful. But > the other players seemed to think so and told them so in no uncertain terms. > It was ugly. I'm curious as to how much everyone else wins. When they were going to have the Survivor All-Stars, all of the desired contestants were contacted and one of those who wasn't expected to be a winner turned it down because the first one to be voted off would only get $2'500. That may have only been for the All-Stars, but I'd be curious as to whether the only winners are those who win the big prizes (cars, etc.) plus the runner-up (I think they get $200k) and the obvious winner. And we have to remember there are taxes to be paid on the winnings and it'll eat into the prizes pretty heavily. They'll probably have to sell the car to pay the taxes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 13:56:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IIuDhm025992 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:56:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:56:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00642A44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:56:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1079481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:56:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IIuCNi011050 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:56:12 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so336021wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.78 with SMTP id k78mr476749wrk; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.25 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:56:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HY9NHn56ErXUQK/lZnfy6L1OTRPB+GWBDAjzmi6DkLJpoAWDWkqAv3gPJWn5aLWHlprsvDXLLi73mlEu88h4TeJeHIQYI/ftJTIFo/myBqmgl3ABma7yUSwq+LZhcAv4jPY19x1j+DcuZvX9OzdtvhPr9TiXISuwfTJA9Rg1rAg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:56:12 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Raw Peanuts In-Reply-To: <462271950505181142369ac04a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <462271950505181142369ac04a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IIuDhm025992 On 5/18/05, phil paxton wrote: > > On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > I am feeling a little peckish and thought WTH, maybe I'll just eat these > > unwanted peanuts > > myself, and on a whim I checked how many WW points are in a cup -- 22!! > That > > would be > > a whole day's allotment -- and not a good way to lose the twinskin!! > > So you aren't a follower of "calorie averaging"? No, what is it? -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 14:14:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IJEUhm028258 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:14:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:14:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00642A51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:57:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1079813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:57:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IIvDof011603 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:57:13 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so358152wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.45.9 with SMTP id s9mr619992wrs; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 11:57:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JIwbLzaprSr4rCYEhGSW/svsv6hpc5dUZVv3RPILgmG5mzP/3YYZ8ih6CbvFUuDW6beZgYASowmNqs8JBGlrB9mdPj6Hojt3Qjb8t7qx6scxfi7pOdLzNwFY4A27floUlqBFFY31QVmin9biEQuI6kfJ0m9VyBcT7SnI26QLyjs= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:57:10 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Raw Peanuts In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4IJEUhm028258 > > I am feeling a little peckish and thought WTH, maybe I'll just eat these > unwanted peanuts myself, and on a whim I checked how many WW points are in > a cup -- 22!! That > would be a whole day's allotment -- and not a good way to lose the > twinskin!! > Marie I could never burn that many calories knitting. I'm rather my need for raw Spanish peanuts. Natalie, please don't bother to look at Wal-Mart on my account. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 14:18:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IJIXhm028669 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:18:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:18:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00642AEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:18:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1081606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:18:32 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IJIWsb015253 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:18:32 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so367923wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.81.14 with SMTP id e14mr643582wrb; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:18:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=javAK/9BQRygreIDZAqiQHi5h3by8sFWspMaDglWm39jzMXNyygY3NBr/eqysUtHO70v5rHfo3uSdUsGSd5VbNDp6vy9Beh4QSt9H/bhoSCydnB2fCYO4Wy+jCGKZaMVFbUWUAShfYfUqNv3SNaRTnKOd3xxu5FD2HGZxDFBUpE= Message-ID: <4622719505051812186072cdaf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:18:31 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Raw Peanuts In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <462271950505181142369ac04a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IJIWsb015254 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > On 5/18/05, phil paxton wrote: > > > > On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > I am feeling a little peckish and thought WTH, maybe I'll just eat these > > > unwanted peanuts > > > myself, and on a whim I checked how many WW points are in a cup -- 22!! > > That > > > would be > > > a whole day's allotment -- and not a good way to lose the twinskin!! > > So you aren't a follower of "calorie averaging"? > No, what is it? You take the 22 WW points + whatever number of points a Diet Coke would have and average them. It's an old joke for a lot of stand-up comedians - if there's 100 calories in a serving of peanuts and 0 from Diet Coke, you're only getting 50 calories you've averaged the calories. When I was in college, there was the "Taylor Diet".To avoid doing lots of laundry[1], the girls would wear sweats durinig the Fall and Winter seasons. After Supper, they'd decide to run down to Ivanhoe's (1/2 mile), eat a mini cone, then jog home. What they'd actually do is walk there, eat a jumbo, and catch a ride home. When Spring Break came, their warm weather clothes suddenly didn't fit. [1] Seinfeld used a couple of other words for "laundry", which is all I've ever heard it called around here. One example is "wash". The example which comes to mind is "The Contest". If season #4 is not out on DVD, it's supposed to be soon. The reference to "a wash" comes when they're talking about being a hostage - the details are not correct. They talk about whether hostages get their clothes cleaned season #4 at epguides: http://www.epguides.com/Seinfeld/ "The Contest" -> http://www.tvtome.com/Seinfeld/season4.html#ep51 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 14:43:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IJhlhm031209 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:43:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:43:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00642D7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:43:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1084123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:43:47 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IJhfmg019377 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:43:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so356496wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.26 with SMTP id 26mr505013wrw; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:43:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pyshkg4L7dQ5MnJ64tv0UPTAATNBrxF7So9yr3VWVmDFntL96JU9NYx8dNCdeByQ9qK1F6dCNTZv8DrRPPr4dD/l9WwOqaUcjOx951HQk2LrH04zkVunded8clIY3fqkvUawv339GgsIrPmS9mLdYmVCAn4ACaFxZgjcfEoMPkY= Message-ID: <8865866a05051812434f93371a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:43:41 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 In-Reply-To: <428B55CC.4020105@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428B55CC.4020105@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IJhgmg019378 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Adam Hartfield wrote: > > >>Come see my four favorite shots from this year which I just put > >>into an album and labelled Hawaii-05. Gee that sounds familiar. > >> > >> > >> - D. M. > >> > >> > > > >Oh, I liked the last one - the palms, pool, and ocean. Nice composition. > > > Yes, the composition is a part of what makes me enjoy them. A little > surprise every time you click 'next'. Like, the foamy waves on the last > but one, and then twilight, almost dark. > > Kristin > I'm so late but I'd like to say I really liked the last one, too. It reminded me of a postcard! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 15:03:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IK35hm000901 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:03:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:03:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F72A74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:53:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1084775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:53:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IJqKXL020934 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:52:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so253158nzo for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.11 with SMTP id s11mr255295nzc; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:52:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OG+MqpQI1OnLvyoZcF5n626K1qH98meXO13Jg5KSMtHaegYjgcGzXVARF3W5bW6EK84UVY21laz3cPkFQGpB5fiW8OvBY3FWBJNWiJ9+Y7uHNTQhXYHJLnY0EXwFfX7nBUHLkXrLIoL7LzLQ3JK16c/ZWZ2xgUH/OBycIMOzACs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050518125237befbc1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:52:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: First Communion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505181626.j4IGQYNH018537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IJqLXL020936 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Sounds fine. Jacket and tie would be optional in my RC family anyway. Not mine, but I haven't been to a Baptism in a LONG time. Men wore suits. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 15:03:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IK35hm000902 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:03:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:03:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F72A69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:54:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1084838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:54:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IJr7PG021033 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:53:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so513230nzp for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.9 with SMTP id f9mr254987nzb; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:53:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=abQwveCKoSWDsMFMrQ12k7S0FqQyEn4D2GQD0dQHJT5/huPTr0zUFWTP6Y5KPM8iELghWvyeh3wDBWTj2SZF9aEGLFFRLz9q8XdEHoidCK508PzIzHG9L7yftM84bTcfz7SQ8SEUDdOWFrz3TzDStDrJNzwOkAyMPgGMxUjHuxU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050518125367e656b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:53:06 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: First Communion In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050518125237befbc1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505181626.j4IGQYNH018537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a7050518125237befbc1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IJr8PG021035 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > Sounds fine. Jacket and tie would be optional in my RC family anyway. > > Not mine, but I haven't been to a Baptism in a LONG time. Men wore suits. I just woke up--ditto for First Communion, anyhow. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 15:03:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IK35hm000903 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:03:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:03:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F72A43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:55:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1085043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:55:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IJsb83021205 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:54:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so444048nzk for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.20 with SMTP id x20mr256650nzx; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 12:54:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FZ+80jLyYLJ/1hevVHrNR2JRzT4q6OXeA3H1Qvl+nu+i1AIwrbd8HpAgPka5voWFbNDx9pUyA2VkbimdVOaox7UyRnb31vW7rBBeneH7YPFTJ8TEA2j+7D6CRvzFU7T3bYYqdziWYieZd7hNz7fv7SNulyrQIS7lJhjrkjBiqVI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505181254754c5b4f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:54:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And tonight's story is called... In-Reply-To: <428B8758.8050806@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051619313ba21bf1@mail.gmail.com> <428B8758.8050806@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IJsb83021207 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >Nanook climbs a tree! All by himself! Several times! > > > The last exclamation above must mean he can get down as well. All by > himself? This is really wonderful. I'm thinking his middle name should be No Fear. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 15:49:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IKnZhm007014 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:49:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:49:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00642EC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:49:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1090244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:49:31 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IKnVGa029419 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:49:31 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104168069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 13:49:30 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518134821.00c38fe8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:49:27 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: For Bonnie? In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050518084828.00c2b678@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428B5F80.7020307@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050518084828.00c2b678@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, but it would probably cost you more to mail them then what you paid for them. Share them with your cow-orkers. Betty At 03:29 PM 5/18/2005 -0300, you wrote: >Your address, madam? > >On 5/18/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > Send them to me and I'll take the shirts, too. LOL > > > > One of the Little People > > > > At 12:43 PM 5/18/2005 -0300, you wrote: > > >I'm devastated to have gotten this wrong. > > > Marie > > > > > > On 5/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > > > > > bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > > > > > Supposed to be raw Spanish peanuts. I don't think I've had any since > > > > >Natalie brought some to Acadiafest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to check the Walmarts here for them. Wmart in Starkville had > > > > them, though not necessarily all of the time. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Marie > > >marieber@gmail.com > > > > > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 16:12:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ILCShm010352 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:12:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:12:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00643087@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:12:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1093341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:12:27 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ILCRKl001193 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:12:27 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so395366wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.107.4 with SMTP id f4mr543480wrc; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 14:11:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DRwsjA+/JArF453MdKllbIaiVEwTA8rdt6SzfmHBa8vm3AXGRuHP8PbwCaeIMg9i9tXm7rr4Wn4jD1t98hrv4gV1LXlwt0dR1Tpv40Mf++xipUFCi+viB9kg7v8lhX6/FdUz6dFQUlqC6CP5Aw8xkbIXi+yTn2hQCwOQSx6iGwQ= Message-ID: <83db447a0505181411191f8c58@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:11:29 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: First Communion In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050518125367e656b2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505181626.j4IGQYNH018537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a7050518125237befbc1@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050518125367e656b2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4ILCShm010352 On 5/18/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 5/18/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 5/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > Sounds fine. Jacket and tie would be optional in my RC family anyway. > > > > Not mine, but I haven't been to a Baptism in a LONG time. Men wore > suits. > > I just woke up--ditto for First Communion, anyhow. I think that if one is an active participant, then a suit would be appropriate; as a spectator, casual dressy is fine (maybe a coat, but not necessarily a tie). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 16:18:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ILHthm010896 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:17:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:18:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00642F04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:17:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1093840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:17:55 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ILHsnP001995 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:17:54 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-62.gwi.net [216.195.163.62]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4ILHhjo046736; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:17:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050518171607.01c07c90@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:17:14 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: And tonight's story is called... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505181254754c5b4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705051619313ba21bf1@mail.gmail.com> <428B8758.8050806@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a70505181254754c5b4f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:54 PM 5/18/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I'm thinking his middle name should be No Fear. That is the name of all young cats. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 17:08:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IM7whm016639 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:08:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:08:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006432CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:07:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1099324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:07:58 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IM7wsL009726 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:07:58 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.127.140]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050518220758.VKT2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:07:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.127.140]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050518220757.IAYR17253.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:07:57 -0400 Message-ID: <428BBCBC.6010006@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:07:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <428A0EA8.90507@maynor.net> <428B84AB.3070407@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <428B84AB.3070407@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >> http://www.maynor.net/Temp/SF/fan.jpg > > O! (in awe) I should take another picture of it now that it has moved to its permanent position (or semi-permanent -- arrangement of objets d'arte in my house is rarely permanent). It's now leaning against the wall behind a sake set on a little table. It looks great. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 17:19:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IMIthm018495 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:18:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:18:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064325F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:18:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1100205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:18:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IMIsDd011050 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:18:54 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so426484wri for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.107.4 with SMTP id f4mr572401wrc; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=uhzJkcIWKMS7HXhA1svioIZEKaRQdXfbNK/pK5HnWUh/OzTSu1NMIJweldlFqQMJMELsgmcZSRMmKvcu0FNOh04Nhn7HCBn0cxufFYv/5e4gCWLkkgZ81NFXXhptn6ZXI2APBpi2mX6vRjTv7kMJIbYj0g8WcCogydy3MRMmO3c= Message-ID: <8865866a0505181518a868ea9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:18:53 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Weather site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IMIsDd011051 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anyone have a favorite world weather site? Gotta be one with the whole world but yet you can get weather reports from specific areas, too. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 17:23:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IMNGhm018881 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:23:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:23:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064327A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:23:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1100393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:23:16 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IMNFi3011432 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:23:16 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.127.140]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050518222316.BFUZ2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:23:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.127.140]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050518222315.IFQI17253.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:23:15 -0400 Message-ID: <428BC052.3080503@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:23:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Raw Peanuts References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > I'm rather my need >for raw Spanish peanuts. Natalie, please don't bother to look at Wal-Mart on >my account. > > I'm disappointed. It's fun to find goodies wanted by Wordslers in faraway places. I'm going to look anyway. I need to go to Wmart tomorrow since I'm getting low on almost everything. When I got back from SF, I didn't want to go all the way to Wmart, so I bought essentials like milk and o.j. at a closer store. But I need to do major shopping soon. Fortunately, I will be able to get into my car to do so tomorrow. I just had a experience: For the first time in my whole life, I locked the keys in the car. I had been swimming and, as usual, had taken only car keys (which have the Baptist Healthplex thingy on the chain) and driver's license. I had stopped on the way home and bought a few items with glove-compartment money, so I had various stuff in the car -- driver's license, bag with wet bathing suit, car keys, purchased items. When I got home, I decided to go water the petunias and snip some weeds in front of the house before closing the garage door. So I left everything in the unlocked car, including the keys lying on the seat, while doing the yard stuff. Then I went back to the car and closed the garage door (that one I can close only with the remote in the car, as opposed to the other one that I can close only with the switch on the wall). I gathered up the various stuff from the car, pushed down the door-locker, and slammed the door, leaving the keys on the seat. I was able to get in the house because I dug up my hidden house key. But then I started wondering where the extra car key was. I knew that surely I had been given an extra key to the car -- that all cars come with two keys. I decided to pull out the little plastic wallet key since I knew where it was -- in my purse. But it didn't work. So much for little plastic keys. (Or at least I think that little plastic key is intended for this car. Maybe it was for the Prius. I can't really remember.) Finally I dug around in drawers and found a big shiny key that said "Toyota" on it. And it worked! So all is well now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 17:38:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IMcWhm020660 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:38:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 17:38:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064318B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:28:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1100641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:28:30 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IMSUQl011810 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:28:30 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.127.140]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050518222830.BJOT2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:28:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.127.140]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050518222830.IHOG17253.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:28:30 -0400 Message-ID: <428BC18C.2030701@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:28:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weather site References: <8865866a0505181518a868ea9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a0505181518a868ea9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >Anyone have a favorite world weather site? Gotta be one with the whole >world but yet you can get weather reports from specific areas, too. > > My favorite weather site is still wunderground, which I've been using since back when you had to do it by ftp: http://www.wunderground.com/ Although it does include the whole world (or at least all parts of the world I've looked at on it -- it may be missing some places) and is the site I use wherever I am in the world, it is a US site and thus is probably US-oriented. If I lived in another part of the world, I would quite likely find another favorite weather site. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 18:06:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IN6khm024299 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:06:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:06:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006434CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:06:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1104258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:06:46 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IN6iwB015373 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:06:45 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so242120rnf for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.2.54 with SMTP id e54mr626512rni; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.5 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:06:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GtanlF0/yS/QkSvRwbVbEaws8Owqi6IcUJJ6dTE4UYMEJ1wOX0inORTLoM1QGuD5OuH+2FH1PhJtDwOey9ymrdlLxi+hpJU6Ftfxc+RzAnB+jm/w24yiS+GDAQq6ujOI+VNGxDmsRrkdms1SB6HLffBz+AorsoPodbHD0R4O60o= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:06:44 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weather site In-Reply-To: <8865866a0505181518a868ea9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a0505181518a868ea9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4IN6jwB015375 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > Anyone have a favorite world weather site? Gotta be one with the whole > world but yet you can get weather reports from specific areas, too. There's http://www.worldweather.org/ which gives you *official* weather using data from the various national weather services. I use weatheroffice.com for Canadian weather because it's easy to remember. For some reason that now flips over to a much harder to type and impossible to remember URL at Environment Canada. I was surprised to discover just now that Environment Canada provides *their* version of weather for several hundred cities worldwide by running "Canadian weather models" for those places. I suppose this is in case the Canadian Army needs to invade Sweden or Botswana or somewhere... It's at http://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/forecast/international/world_e.html, and as they say "These forecasts may differ from the official forecasts issued by the meteorological authorities for the selected location." It'd be interesting to see who's right more often. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 18:09:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4IN9Ghm024534 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:09:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:09:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00643320@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:09:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1104421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:09:16 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4IN9FeK015591 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:09:15 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.127.140]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050518230915.BGIU2152.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:09:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.127.140]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050518230915.OQVI1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:09:15 -0400 Message-ID: <428BCB1A.5080602@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:09:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Silence of the Ghoul Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am happy to report that the Find-a-Grave nut has apparently decided to cease his absurd e-mail attacks. Haven't heard from him since whenever it was I last heard from him -- several days ago. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 18:34:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4INYFhm027455 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:34:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:34:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064358B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:34:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1106338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:34:14 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4INYEEi018051 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:34:14 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so246098rnf for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.101.64 with SMTP id y64mr639380rnb; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.5 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 16:34:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ibTeM6pPBKUgn5gyHaU4FnssJ4AaXQQoh7iLEeEeu4iEtSZcLZjm4r3G8Zr8qbR71qSVBmGQTTcHhCMGWa0NXzgF2mN0gDCJ0+V9bJC2laNWWO+w7phzLwZ/NPvB/XWdiLESEm4douGFrYxmEgDSOGRyMBMZkTg3NlR/5Pg74Ks= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:34:13 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4INYEEi018052 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/17/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > And then I strolled on up Powell Street and checked into the > very pleasant hotel. What hotel was this, again? > The line for the cable cars at Powell Street wasn't > terribly long, but when I got to FW I realized that getting back was > going to take quite a while because of the humongously long line. The old "trapped at FW" trick... BTDT. You can walk back to Union Square, but the problem is that the short route has severe hills, and the flat route goes through a doubtful areas if it's evening. Well, I'm out of touch - perhaps this has changed. > Ate breakfast next door, at the place I'd had dinner the night before. > Vernon had told me that they'd discovered that this place next door, > Sears, was owned by the same people who own Lori's, up the street. Gack - I'm sure I've eaten in both those places. Sears has the little pancakes, and Lori's is a pseudo-1950s diner...? > Twas a good trip. I loved the hotel, but I'm thinking that on a future > trip I'd rather be in the FW area. We stayed in a reasonably priced Hyatt (whatever they call their low-end chain) at FW that was boring but fine. > Oh -- and the weather couldn't have been any better. At no point on the > whole trip was I hot or cold. It was perfect the whole time. Sigh... it's been over five years since I've been to SF. I used to be there every year or two. I miss the place. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 18:57:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4INvdhm030287 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:57:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:57:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064355D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:57:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1107674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:57:38 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4INvc6t019878 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:57:38 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:57:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:57:02 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Silence of the Ghoul Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Isn't this a quote from Yogi Berra? BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 05/18/05 7:09 PM >>> Haven't heard from him since whenever it was I last heard from him -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 19:31:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J0VVhm001927 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:31:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:31:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00643686@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:31:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1109279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:31:30 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J0VUbw022730 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:31:30 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <200505190031300120079tjre>; Thu, 19 May 2005 00:31:30 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Regional influences Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:31:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >[] the county I grew up in (Kosciusko) is Ka-shoe-s-ko, not > >kah-zee-oss-co as everyone else [here] does > There's a bridge and a mustard in NY and I don't think either of these > pronunciations works, but > I've always had a tough time with this one. > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com I've had the mustard, but I don't know if I've ever pronounced it. I'd go with something like k@-choose-sko. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 20:10:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J1AVhm007059 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:10:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:10:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064351A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:00:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1110257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:00:30 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J10Tbr024854 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:00:29 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.127.140]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519010030.UBUH2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:00:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.127.140]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519010029.BIBN9550.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:00:29 -0400 Message-ID: <428BE52C.3040309@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:00:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Survivor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just watched last Thursday's Survivor. I don't remember having ever seen Katie before in my life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 20:10:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J1AVhm007058 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:10:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:10:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006436EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:06:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1110518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:06:27 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J16QB5025284 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:06:26 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.127.140]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519010626.UEEG2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:06:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.127.140]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519010626.BJWG9550.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:06:26 -0400 Message-ID: <428BE690.90706@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:06:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >>And then I strolled on up Powell Street and checked into the >>very pleasant hotel. >> >> >What hotel was this, again? > > The Chancellor. I highly recommend it if you want to stay in the Union Square area. I need to go to that hotel-recommending website and give it good marks. That's where I found it -- somebody was talking about the rubber ducks. And there was indeed a rubber duck in the bathroom. >Gack - I'm sure I've eaten in both those places. Sears has the little >pancakes, and Lori's is a pseudo-1950s diner...? > > Lori's is a pseudo-50s diner. I don't know about the little pancakes at Sears, though I ate there three times (two breakfasts, one dinner). I think somebody said that Sears had been breakfast and lunch only until fairly recently adding dinner. >Sigh... it's been over five years since I've been to SF. I used to be >there every year or two. I miss the place. > > My favorite of your SF trips was the birthday surprise. That was SF, wasn't it -- when Barbara planned the trip and lured you to the airport and then onto the plane as a surprise? Your 40th, iirc. But are you old enough for that to have been your 40th? It seems like a long time ago -- and was pre-children. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 20:10:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J1AVhm007060 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:10:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:10:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064353E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:09:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1110647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:09:07 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J193IB025460 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:09:04 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.127.140]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519010903.UFGJ2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:09:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.127.140]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519010903.BKSK9550.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:09:03 -0400 Message-ID: <428BE72E.6060407@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:09:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional influences References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >> >[] the county I grew up in (Kosciusko) is Ka-shoe-s-ko, not >> >> >>>kah-zee-oss-co as everyone else [here] does >>> >>> >> There's a bridge and a mustard in NY and I don't think either of these >>pronunciations works, but >>I've always had a tough time with this one. >> >>-- >>Marie >>marieber@gmail.com >> >> > >I've had the mustard, but I don't know if I've ever pronounced it. I'd go >with something like k@-choose-sko. > > I remember in childhood that my Daddy told me that the way to pronounce Kosciusko was something like ka-shus'-ko, but he was not recommending that I should therefore pronounce Kosciusko, Mississippi, that way. I would've sounded idiotic since it's kah-zee-ess'-ko. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 20:49:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J1nehm012797 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:49:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:49:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006437AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:49:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1112701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:49:40 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J1ndKk028762 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:49:39 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.127.140]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519014939.CJA13146.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:49:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.127.140]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519014939.PRXJ8439.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:49:39 -0400 Message-ID: <428BF0B2.5000409@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:49:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Chancellor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony (and anybody else interested) -- Check out these reviews of the Chancellor Hotel in SF: http://tinyurl.com/856ot -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 21:41:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J2flhm019419 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:41:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:41:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006438B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:31:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1114680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:31:44 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J2Vh9o032681 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:31:43 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 98B3E9F23C02 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:31:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <008601c55c1a$e5fc00d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <428B55CC.4020105@akad.ee> <8865866a05051812434f93371a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:31:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Franzen" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 > On 5/18/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: >> Adam Hartfield wrote: >> >> >>Come see my four favorite shots from this year which I just put >> >>into an album and labelled Hawaii-05. Gee that sounds familiar. >> >> >> >> >> >> - D. M. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Oh, I liked the last one - the palms, pool, and ocean. Nice composition. >> > >> Yes, the composition is a part of what makes me enjoy them. A little >> surprise every time you click 'next'. Like, the foamy waves on the last >> but one, and then twilight, almost dark. >> >> Kristin >> > > I'm so late but I'd like to say I really liked the last one, too. It > reminded me of a postcard! > > Marcia Some didn't see the last one because I added it later. It was taken right in Waikiki and the building on the right is the old Royal Hawaiian Hotel. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 22:13:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J3Cuhm023916 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:12:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:13:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00643897@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:55:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1116355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:55:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J2tGJo002320 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:55:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so593916nzk for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.6 with SMTP id k6mr342346nzk; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 19:55:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VdtXTxqNswEtHebPot2rKy30pSSpQfzWPYzshbOHRntdQSpz+HBsVPzWqDH7wzn55r064qoWnfO5oAW+Un3De0JC1iIMMJel6fUjgjRzdvkxGtE6ygofZNnB7noBO4wwkXtTDUcfAu9Br4wM3MYvDNMVdmIL+JVpLGU7t8Mysn4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050518195529d9b05d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:55:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 In-Reply-To: <428BFF7C.4040100@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428B55CC.4020105@akad.ee> <8865866a05051812434f93371a@mail.gmail.com> <008601c55c1a$e5fc00d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <428BFF7C.4040100@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4J2tGJo002321 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you used gmail, it would be at the top of the thread... On 5/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Doris Markland wrote: > > > Some didn't see the last one because I added it later. > > So are you going to give the url again for us early-birds? Or is this > an early-bird-doesn't-get-the-worm thing? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 22:13:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J3Cuhm023913 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:12:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:13:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006439CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:06:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1120883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:06:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J36fNI004444 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:06:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so597212nzk for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.7 with SMTP id q7mr341041nzq; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 20:06:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iqQc0p/74frD9T2SVDm+pv9jfiNcjjpdYXeYk+hCze5HrZrGPnx46OC4P8spOf8o4XWbhXEYjWK52BjVsVSnKvMUBuoh9YUx82nQrC6b+S8Byoyh8O1Oj+Nt7t/3U5/tYQhjg4EzyqO6bxHPTEJi0QOECWrq/N5KJHGTUI4Xsl4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505182006532a51b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:06:41 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 In-Reply-To: <428C021A.70707@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428B55CC.4020105@akad.ee> <8865866a05051812434f93371a@mail.gmail.com> <008601c55c1a$e5fc00d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <428BFF7C.4040100@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050518195529d9b05d@mail.gmail.com> <428C021A.70707@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4J36fNI004445 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >If you used gmail, it would be at the top of the thread... > > > > > I do use gmail -- for storing genealogy stuff. I have no desire to use > it for my regular e-mail life. I know. I'm just pointing out an advantage. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 22:13:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J3Cuhm023915 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:12:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:13:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00643870@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:52:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1116040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:52:46 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J2qkA2002116 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:52:46 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.127.140]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519025246.XAGX2331.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:52:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.127.140]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519025245.WPRC23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:52:45 -0400 Message-ID: <428BFF7C.4040100@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:52:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 References: <428B55CC.4020105@akad.ee> <8865866a05051812434f93371a@mail.gmail.com> <008601c55c1a$e5fc00d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <008601c55c1a$e5fc00d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Some didn't see the last one because I added it later. So are you going to give the url again for us early-birds? Or is this an early-bird-doesn't-get-the-worm thing? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 22:24:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J3OQhm025192 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:24:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:24:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F73B6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:04:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1120069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:03:56 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J33uw4003945 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:03:56 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.127.140]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519030356.UOWT23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:03:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.127.140]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519030356.BLN24612.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:03:56 -0400 Message-ID: <428C021A.70707@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:03:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 References: <428B55CC.4020105@akad.ee> <8865866a05051812434f93371a@mail.gmail.com> <008601c55c1a$e5fc00d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <428BFF7C.4040100@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050518195529d9b05d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050518195529d9b05d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >If you used gmail, it would be at the top of the thread... > > I do use gmail -- for storing genealogy stuff. I have no desire to use it for my regular e-mail life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 22:53:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J3rRhm028826 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:53:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:53:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00643C96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:53:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1123071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:53:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J3rPId007742 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:53:25 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F73C96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:53:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200505190353.j4J3rPId007742@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 23:53:25 -0400 From: John Williams Subject: Re: Regional influences To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: "Mrs. Williams" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:09:02 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Adam Hartfield wrote: > >>> >[] the county I grew up in (Kosciusko) is Ka-shoe-s-ko, not >>> >>> >>>>kah-zee-oss-co as everyone else [here] does >>>> >>>> >>> There's a bridge and a mustard in NY and I don't think either of these >>>pronunciations works, but >>>I've always had a tough time with this one. >>> >>>-- >>>Marie >>>marieber@gmail.com >>> >>> >> >>I've had the mustard, but I don't know if I've ever pronounced it. I'd go >>with something like k@-choose-sko. >> >> >I remember in childhood that my Daddy told me that the way to >pronounce Kosciusko was something like ka-shus'-ko, but he was not >recommending that I should therefore pronounce Kosciusko, Mississippi, >that way. I would've sounded idiotic since it's kah-zee-ess'-ko. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) If you're Polish it is cow-CHEWS-ko; in Michigan and Indiana everyone else says Kass-i-AHS-ko and manages to get on with their lives. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 18 23:34:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J4Yehm000595 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:34:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 23:34:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F73E9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 0:34:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1125946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 00:34:40 -0400 Received: from bor-n-mail03.ofoto.com (bor-n-mail03.ofoto.com [64.209.168.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J4GDcd009848 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 00:16:14 -0400 Received: from web88.ofoto.com (web88.ofoto.com [10.0.0.88]) by bor-n-mail03.ofoto.com (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4J4A7NJ031950 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:10:07 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by web88.ofoto.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4J4GCW1005347 for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 21:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200505190416.j4J4GCW1005347@web88.ofoto.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:16:12 -0800 (PDT) From: dmarkld@ncfcomm.com To: Words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: View my photos: Hawaii 05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For Natalie . . . 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Visit http://help.kodakgallery.com. ------------------------------------------------ EASYSHARE Gallery Customer Service http://help.kodakgallery.com/support Phone: (800) 360-9098 Outside the US and Canada: (512) 651-9770 ------------------------------------------------ If you cannot see the links above, copy and paste the following URL directly into your browser: http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=1&y=ouwqz5 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 00:18:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J5Hxhm006247 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 00:18:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 00:18:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00643D45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 1:17:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1129496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 01:17:58 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J5Hvit015872 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 01:17:58 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so594191wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.79.16 with SMTP id c16mr919087wrb; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:17:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fIYHklbROwK8wPdFzthBuTPcbEkFbCfuNzLwlVD/Cp/HhGcxGN6xcOL7py0ots203LzIh33tEp1gG1hWaH2EaFQ/xHDNCG0vEPAnKVv3uiQMTBGE74ABpkRC32zeJDPD+ch/4eXqjhZpMcf0KQZHJ2DpZQBXL46vPx6gyp48/Ms= Message-ID: <46227195050518221769151510@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:17:57 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <428BE52C.3040309@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428BE52C.3040309@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4J5Hwit015877 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I just watched last Thursday's Survivor. I don't remember having ever > seen Katie before in my life. She stayed under the radar. I've found it interesting how some people who stay too low are voted off but others are pretty low and emerge at the end. For some reason, the finalists don't seem able to keep the person most likely to be the one they can beat in the finals when there are four or five left. Those people are voted off and the pact with the cabal remains intact until you hope your "pact mate" ticked off enough people and could pop a vein when they get a turn. Tina is a perfect example of who not to keep around. It was a mistake to keep her around near the end because she was too nice. And that was the last thing her opponents needed at the end, particularly at the end. Picking her as the finalist was suicide. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 00:43:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J5hPhm009078 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 00:43:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 00:43:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00643EBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 1:43:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1130631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 01:43:25 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J5hOIZ017653 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 01:43:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so601757wra for ; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.31 with SMTP id 31mr172059wrd; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 22:43:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aC/jE0Uz2rL1S2BYBIOuX3SiC+pGWachKF81B9mFYIUmgkRdplnthd6ItNThiHIozN9/Eij6dlbfFe+nDWYiuV1VZdYPLOx34z4fa4IfR9TvNb5WGqaZIw7f+kesRgRNMnl27eIyX0VkpB5uI7tnyy9M2Kh47HWODbHIaGfmczM= Message-ID: <46227195050518224368314fd4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:43:24 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional influences In-Reply-To: <200505190353.j4J3rPId007742@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505190353.j4J3rPId007742@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4J5hPIZ017654 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, John Williams wrote: > On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:09:02 -0500, Natalie Maynor > wrote: > > >Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > >>> >[] the county I grew up in (Kosciusko) is Ka-shoe-s-ko, not > >>> > >>> > >>>>kah-zee-oss-co as everyone else [here] does > >>>> > >>> There's a bridge and a mustard in NY and I don't think either of these > >>>pronunciations works, but > >>>I've always had a tough time with this one. > >>> > >> > >>I've had the mustard, but I don't know if I've ever pronounced it. I'd go > >>with something like k@-choose-sko. > >> > >I remember in childhood that my Daddy told me that the way to > >pronounce Kosciusko was something like ka-shus'-ko, but he was not > >recommending that I should therefore pronounce Kosciusko, Mississippi, > >that way. I would've sounded idiotic since it's kah-zee-ess'-ko. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > If you're Polish it is cow-CHEWS-ko; in Michigan and Indiana everyone > else says Kass-i-AHS-ko and manages to get on with their lives. You don't like that part of Words-L history, eh? It would be interesting to hear how someone from Oz pronounces it. Mt. Kosciusko is Australia's highest point. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 01:45:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J6j9hm016379 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 01:45:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 01:45:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00643FA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 2:35:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1133607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 02:35:07 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J6Z4dQ022044 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 02:35:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F741BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 2:35:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200505190635.j4J6Z4dQ022044@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 02:35:04 -0400 From: Neal Traven Subject: Re: First Communion To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 18 May 2005 12:26:34 -0400, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >Hi, > >We are going to a friend's son First Communion at a Catholic Church this >weekend., what is the usual dress code for these events. I was thinking a >pair of dress pants, shoes and a button down shirt. The son will not care, >he is 8 or 9. > >Thanks for the fashion advice. > > >Alec Wear what you would wear to a friend's son's bar mitzvah. (Minus the tallis and yarmulke) neal, who's never been to a First Communion From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 03:48:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J8m0hm031183 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 03:48:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 03:48:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00644144@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 4:47:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1136713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 04:47:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J8lw6s030520 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 04:47:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so519721wra for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 01:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.10.61 with SMTP id 61mr866458wrj; Thu, 19 May 2005 01:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 01:47:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sfM3wzfpgmVdv6Lj3vv99pEEcfMIIHhUCKhhm4SgCsZqpTe6Wob6l9puJKhOMeYAjGWQITBlJlOwSpuET43pqoE4vbZdgE8l4UHB/WeNyOCwDQLs7XeSZkjZFhEMUnT/hMz2l67UwH9yj8ojYVsRpeGVd/OQJpAj3qIh0BcYTDc= Message-ID: <8865866a0505190147195f94d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:47:55 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weather site In-Reply-To: <428BC18C.2030701@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a0505181518a868ea9@mail.gmail.com> <428BC18C.2030701@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4J8lx6s030522 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Marcia Franzen wrote: > > >Anyone have a favorite world weather site? Gotta be one with the whole > >world but yet you can get weather reports from specific areas, too. > > > > > My favorite weather site is still wunderground, which I've been using > since back when you had to do it by ftp: > > http://www.wunderground.com/ > > Although it does include the whole world (or at least all parts of the > world I've looked at on it -- it may be missing some places) and is the > site I use wherever I am in the world, it is a US site and thus is > probably US-oriented. If I lived in another part of the world, I would > quite likely find another favorite weather site. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Neat. When I clicked on the link, it came up automatically in Swedish but was still focused on the U.S. I got some weather stats from England. Hmmm...I'll have to explore it more later. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 04:46:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4J9kDhm011995 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 04:46:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 04:46:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006444C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 5:46:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1137804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 05:46:13 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4J9aD40001341 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 05:36:13 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4J9ZvOD032430 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 05:35:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 05:36:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Greeetings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU from IULA. Interestingly, colleagues here have given me exactly the security warnings that the travel books contain. They say that they are not exaggerated. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 05:14:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JAEdhm015792 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 05:14:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 05:14:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006445B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 6:14:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1138869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 06:14:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JAEcZp003640 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 06:14:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so712878nzk for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 03:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.15 with SMTP id g15mr382189nzc; Thu, 19 May 2005 03:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 03:14:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qqr/8fXB8CBFoPFcFzdB28ahe+5mBXA/szlb6h4/h/UJBb5CXyxkVoYFILeT9r5YUlqMp3FjuzFRTIm7n0cy1cIwtfcuPMk/amKdnO0h5FwjeKMqNHmM1iyk45Cvo6c28PjYk5XG50l3x/i0ZU+iNRLWu7DGpVv1Q0iUDnsSl6Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505190314657a7bdd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 05:14:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: First Communion In-Reply-To: <200505190635.j4J6Z4dQ022044@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505190635.j4J6Z4dQ022044@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JAEcZp003641 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Neal Traven wrote: > Wear what you would wear to a friend's son's bar mitzvah. (Minus the tallis > and yarmulke) I think this is good advice. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 07:30:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JCTqhm004044 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:29:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:30:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7465D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 8:29:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1143924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:29:52 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JCTqjL008787 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:29:52 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-86.gwi.net [216.195.163.86]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4JCTljq007559; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:29:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050519081108.01beab50@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:12:05 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Silence of the Ghoul In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:57 PM 5/18/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Isn't this a quote from Yogi Berra? > >BrP > > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 05/18/05 7:09 PM >>> > Haven't heard from him since whenever it was I last heard from him Yeah---he uttered it right after he came to a fork in the road and took it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 07:30:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JCTrhm004053 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:29:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:30:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F746AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 8:29:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1143931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:29:53 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JCTrfL008794 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:29:53 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-86.gwi.net [216.195.163.86]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4JCTljr007559; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:29:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050519082030.01bec9d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:26:49 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Weather site In-Reply-To: <8865866a0505190147195f94d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <8865866a0505181518a868ea9@mail.gmail.com> <428BC18C.2030701@maynor.net> <8865866a0505190147195f94d3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:47 AM 5/19/2005, Marcia Franzen wrote: >Neat. When I clicked on the link, it came up automatically in Swedish >but was still focused on the U.S. I got some weather stats from >England. Hmmm...I'll have to explore it more later. According to weather underground, in Lulea Kallax (65.6N, 22.1E) at 1350 CEST, it was 7C, relative humidity at 71%, barometer 1011hPa, clear, winds from the south at 20 km/h. The length of the day is 19h 30 min and the duration of visible light is 24 h. There is also a Lulea Sol, which reports in less detail. Presumably one is the airport or wherever the official weather station is. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 07:43:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JChkhm006008 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:43:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:43:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F746D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 8:43:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1144918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:43:46 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JChjil010725 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:43:45 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F74723@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 8:43:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200505191243.j4JChjil010725@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:43:45 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 18 May 2005 12:12:32 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: >On 5/17/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Well, although I'm on vacation this week, I am writing >> from the office to let you all know that my Mom has >> been hospitalized for tests after chest pains. >> Mercy leaves tomorrow am for Munchen. >> clo >> > >Hope your Mom's doing better and it is nothing too serious. > >Terry Thanks. Mild heart attack is the tentative diagnosis - she's being moved to Syracuse for more tests and possible angioplasty or bypass. Meanwhile latent sibling rivalries are surfacing, which is natural but very painful. It's all about who got called first and who gets answers from the doctor and so on. Fun, fun, fun. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 08:14:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JDEehm011098 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:14:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:14:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F74728@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 8:44:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1144954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:44:39 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JCidef010903 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:44:39 -0400 Received: from [136.167.96.230] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.96.230] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 93914582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:43:12 -0400 Message-ID: <428C8AB2.40505@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:46:42 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: First Communion References: <200505190635.j4J6Z4dQ022044@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505190314657a7bdd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505190314657a7bdd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/19/05, Neal Traven wrote: > >>Wear what you would wear to a friend's son's bar mitzvah. (Minus the tallis >>and yarmulke) > > > I think this is good advice. Me too. I have not been to a First Communion in years. Around here they tend to do it in conjunction with a regularly scheduled Sunday mass. Any suitably "respectful" attire will work. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 08:27:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JDR6hm013032 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:27:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:27:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F74885@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 9:27:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1147998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:27:06 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JDR6kT017320 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:27:06 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.104]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519132706.QKYT2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:27:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.104]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519132705.BMXK15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:27:05 -0400 Message-ID: <428C9427.6060607@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:27:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 References: <200505190416.j4J4GCW1005347@web88.ofoto.com> In-Reply-To: <200505190416.j4J4GCW1005347@web88.ofoto.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >For Natalie . . . > >You're invited to view these photos online at Kodak Easyshare Gallery! >Just click on View Photos to get started. >http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=1&y=ouwqz5 > > Thank you. But this is very strange. I looked at the earlier ones without having to "join" -- or at least I *think* that was true. I certainly saw them, but I don't remember having to register. Were they in a different place, or am I just going crazy? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 08:47:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JDljhm015922 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:47:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:47:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00644C5C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 9:46:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1149316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:46:03 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JDk3TZ020521 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:46:03 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.104]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519134603.DPZY23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:46:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.104]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519134603.FXKI24612.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:46:03 -0400 Message-ID: <428C9898.8000907@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:46:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: More on Till Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A column re the exhuming: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050519/COL0601/505190381/1201 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 08:47:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JDljhm015921 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:47:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:47:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00644A71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 9:37:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1148661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:37:44 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JDbiBJ018949 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:37:44 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:37:44 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:36:57 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had the same experience/recollection. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/19/2005 9:27:03 AM >>> Thank you. But this is very strange. I looked at the earlier ones without having to "join" -- or at least I *think* that was true. I certainly saw them, but I don't remember having to register. Were they in a different place, or am I just going crazy? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:12:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JECLhm019546 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:12:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:12:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00644ABC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 9:52:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1149089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:52:21 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JDgKAo020040 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:42:20 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.104]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519134220.DLTL23609.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:42:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.104]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519134220.FTVO24612.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:42:20 -0400 Message-ID: <428C97B9.8050506@ra.msstate.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:42:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Blogging Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I found this interesting (that even in 2004 so many net users had no idea what a blog was): *********** Still, surveys conducted by the Pew Internet and American Life Project in 2004 reported that although 27 percent of Internet users blog, 62 percent of Internet users do not know what a blog is. *********** from: http://tinyurl.com/ddzcg -- -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:12:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JECLhm019545 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:12:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:12:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00644AEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:01:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1150723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:01:35 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JE1ZcA023419 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:01:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 20247547 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:20:00 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 19 May 2005 07:01:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:03:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19410314742.20050519080337@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I'm back In-Reply-To: <42891D64.8040909@maynor.net> References: <4288E379.2010303@maynor.net> <4288FAF0.8070308@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050516125934d63be3@mail.gmail.com> <4288FDA3.30201@maynor.net> <42890200.4040704@maynor.net> <1105713050.20050516152622@gailndan.com> <4289175F.7040400@maynor.net> <248810210.20050516161159@gailndan.com> <42891D64.8040909@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 202, in=70917, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That your suggestion he could do it in that time was totally unrealistic. 5/16/2005, 4:23 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>NM> I think it's 70 most places (which of course means 80 in the eyes of the >>NM> highway patrol). >> >>Well, you'd still have to AVERAGE over 90 to do it in 45 mins. >> >> NM> And your point is? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:12:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JECLhm019548 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:12:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:12:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00644C01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:04:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1150851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:04:01 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JE40X9023769 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:04:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 20247869 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:22:25 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 19 May 2005 07:04:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:06:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1995528893.20050519080602@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: those little things In-Reply-To: <20050516234855.GA78902@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705051605027592b729@mail.gmail.com> <4288986D.6050309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705051607036fda3de4@mail.gmail.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20050516083622.00bca890@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050516085744209ae8@mail.gmail.com> <20050516195354.GA99154@words-l.org> <123373510.20050516161752@gailndan.com> <20050516234855.GA78902@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 202, in=70920, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/16/2005, 5:48 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> What's with the relative statements all of a sudden? Man, are you DMH> going soft or what. "Depends" is for punks. No, it is for those with incontinence problems. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:12:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JECLhm019547 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:12:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:12:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00644C90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 9:58:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1150372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:58:12 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JDwC0v022733 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:58:12 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.104]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519135812.HGUO7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:58:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.104]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519135811.ZNVS25991.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:58:11 -0400 Message-ID: <428C9B70.3070003@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:58:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: What Would Alyce Do? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Remember how much Alyce enjoyed Netflix? I bet she is rolling over in her grave about its teaming with her enemy Wmart: Wal-Mart teams with Netflix on DVD deal from: http://tinyurl.com/ey2da -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:19:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEJJhm020510 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:19:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:19:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00644D63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:19:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1152369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:19:19 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEJIcH026555 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:19:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 20431557 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:24:09 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 19 May 2005 07:19:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:21:20 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1117774218.20050519082120@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Scotched? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051713182c9211a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705051713182c9211a8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 202, in=83316, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/17/2005, 2:18 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I said something "But we scotched those plans, right?" And he AFoA> looked at me as if he were wondering what planet I came from, and he AFoA> asked "Scotched?" AFoA> Is this not standard English? I understand it, but haven't heard the term in years. Probably unknown by those below a which we both exceed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:40:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEeThm023366 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00644D99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:25:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1152968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:25:44 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEPhp9027653 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:25:43 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.104]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519142544.CBGN2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:25:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.104]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519142543.TCOL8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:25:43 -0400 Message-ID: <428CA1E4.8010303@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:25:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What Would Alyce Do? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Sandra Hess >No longer of SF, but thereabouts north. > > Welcome back! It was great seeing you in Pinole. And this brings up another pronunciation matter: How many of you non-Californians know how to pronounce Pinole? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:40:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEeThm023362 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00644CBF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:21:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1152542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:21:08 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEL8Va026831 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:21:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 20504633 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:21:29 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 19 May 2005 07:21:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:23:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1073774199.20050519082310@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Reference Books For Sale In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 200, in=69655, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/17/2005, 3:09 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> that's weird PB> I did the same thing (with a different misspelling) and got the same PB> result you did I'll bet that most common misspellings and finger faults have such sites. Some specialized, some just an attempt to pick up on the traffic from the desired site. I ran into one yesterday. I regularly buy postcards at auction from www.playle.com but yesterday in a forgetful moment typed www.playles.com and for a minute thought they'd redesigned their site. Nope. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:40:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEeThm023363 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00644D8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:25:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1152863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:25:16 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEPFYx027526 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:25:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 20250899 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:43:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 19 May 2005 07:25:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:27:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <713523349.20050519082712@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Regional influences In-Reply-To: <4622719505051718081a99f8b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4622719505051718081a99f8b8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 202, in=70936, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/17/2005, 7:08 PM, phil paxton wrote: pp> [] I don't pronounce Versailles as ver-sales; instead, ver-sigh pp> (France), despite everyone in Indiana & Kentucky using the former. I pp> met an editor of the Indianapolis Star at a party when I first Those are common on place names. Des Moines Iowa vs. Des Plaines IL (prounounced Des Planes). Or the three ways of saying Nevada. We can always tell those from back east who say nu-vah-duh instead of ne-va-duh. And then in MO and other places they have towns named nu-vay-duh. Indeed, examples abound. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:40:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEeThn023366 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00644C08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:31:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1153446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:31:37 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEVbFF028636 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:31:37 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.104]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519143137.CJHN2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:31:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.104]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519143137.TFEL8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:31:37 -0400 Message-ID: <428CA346.3030105@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:31:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Pinole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU BB: Is your town named for "gruel made of toasted meal"? Ryan told me that people said that but that he was not sure about it. This is when we were discussing my erroneous pronunciation of Pinole, which I had been pronouncing in a sort of Spanish way (but no tilde over the n). Pinole - Gruel made of toasted meal. from: http://www.indian-nations.com/encylope.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:40:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEeThm023364 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00644BB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:20:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1152485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:20:29 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEKS9Y026730 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:20:28 -0400 Received: from D5MNK821 (c-67-188-190-150.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.188.190.150]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005051914202801600cke3fe>; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:20:28 +0000 Reply-To: From: "sandra" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: What Would Alyce Do? Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:20:29 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <428C9B70.3070003@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi Natalie, Hello all... I just read the same...oh my. Lately, they've been turning around DVDs much faster than a few months ago. I wonder what this will do to slog up the process. Sandra Hess No longer of SF, but thereabouts north. > Remember how much Alyce enjoyed Netflix? I bet she is rolling over in > her grave about its teaming with her enemy Wmart: > > Wal-Mart teams with Netflix on DVD deal > from: http://tinyurl.com/ey2da > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:41:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEeThn023362 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:40:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:41:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00644DF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:38:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1154052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:38:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEcMo8029694 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:38:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so780069wra for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.97.14 with SMTP id u14mr448569wrb; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:38:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Hvob14ood2+xtAVFtpcPxMVDp1IhE9aE6K7mz/6TsX7uhTQu4Ewcjja1o+Rnv+0UimWrU6EnYq+RZ9vYkN2U7C0d8MTNsj9D4GjRExmuVarZfdFiKySl4DqQBahgQWmBbzf4Iow7Z16Q4obvKiWlosyuW0QPBwSs00tJQGTiKog= Message-ID: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:38:22 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Shave and a haircut Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JEcMo8029695 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Where is the term 'shave and a haircut' used to mean knock? I've never heard or read it before yesterday. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:51:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEpLhm024739 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:51:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:51:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00644D4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:41:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1154267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:41:30 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEfTS4030235 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:41:29 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:41:29 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:40:57 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU it's the rhythm BrP >>> terry.wild@GMAIL.COM 5/19/2005 10:38:22 AM >>> Where is the term 'shave and a haircut' used to mean knock? I've never heard or read it before yesterday. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:51:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEpLhm024740 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:51:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:51:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00644D49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:41:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1154255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:41:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEfKEW030210 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:41:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so968979nzp for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.4 with SMTP id n4mr452018nzc; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:41:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WOiAxb21JyJRdrn++Nd5Q3SOyWEDpk8RbRE8Ndp2KeWS7JG6SEmeJqyt4sYHUEvKuM5vG0CRVhaGqYU6hMm/wQmTItcd/tWOefrIDWXU4KDGASbviKD1PUyS/QDfIElQ4vQastlKP6v7oin2nB/dzvCnuaf9pqVfKhXwQiF87+M= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051907413d7d074b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:41:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JEfKEW030213 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hm. I looked at them again without having to join. On 5/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I had the same experience/recollection. > > BrP > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/19/2005 9:27:03 AM >>> > Thank you. But this is very strange. I looked at the earlier ones > without having to "join" -- or at least I *think* that was true. I > certainly saw them, but I don't remember having to register. Were > they > in a different place, or am I just going crazy? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:54:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEsIhm025193 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:54:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:54:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F74B94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:54:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1155226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:54:18 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEsIe0000778 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:54:18 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B3512485A78 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:54:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c55c82$a305fe30$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505190416.j4J4GCW1005347@web88.ofoto.com> <428C9427.6060607@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:54:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:27 AM Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 > Doris Markland wrote: > >>For Natalie . . . >> >>You're invited to view these photos online at Kodak Easyshare Gallery! >>Just click on View Photos to get started. >>http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=1&y=ouwqz5 >> >> > Thank you. But this is very strange. I looked at the earlier ones > without having to "join" -- or at least I *think* that was true. I > certainly saw them, but I don't remember having to register. Were they > in a different place, or am I just going crazy? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) My fault. I forgot to click the box that said guests don't have to register. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:57:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEvNhm025609 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:57:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:57:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F74BD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:57:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1155694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:57:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEvNWw001768 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:57:23 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so842204nzk for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.7 with SMTP id q7mr457962nzq; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.19 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 07:57:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pojbIx1PTFCH7+tm5nKXGCZjIYH3bnWc4SP38LDi64UNdUZEUTUMgClMhC9ODjkOAdljB0kPuY+YpoOySaye2H4aMfRTPLN7IMTkwwF870dbWShsfB0ckP7mjkP9k29VbdLAf/Og4hMlWiRVJeKA0ehTRv+stIHCL8jkw8HNXAk= Message-ID: <94539327050519075752e71546@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:57:22 -0700 From: Larry Clark Reply-To: Larry Clark To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Pinole In-Reply-To: <428CA346.3030105@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428CA346.3030105@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JEvNWw001771 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > BB: Is your town named for "gruel made of toasted meal"? Excuse me for butting in here, but eons ago the Oakland Tribune ran a series of short articles about the history of the local towns and that was their theory on the origin of the name. I've never heard any other. Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 09:58:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JEwVhm025704 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:58:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:58:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F74BEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:58:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1155966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:58:30 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JEwQpd002390 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:58:26 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B949DECAAD23 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:57:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002d01c55c83$2234bd40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:57:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Wild" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Shave and a haircut > Where is the term 'shave and a haircut' used to mean knock? > > I've never heard or read it before yesterday. > > Terry I don't know what it means but I can sing it. It was a little ditty "Shave and a haircut . . six bits." - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 10:10:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JFAKhm027694 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:10:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:10:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F74CAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:10:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1157194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:10:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JFAJtY005223 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:10:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so990658nzp for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.31.15 with SMTP id e15mr406261nze; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:10:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P5BlY9lzQr+FXJKSSLtAWzaHtRg+W22WIeBcnf/TZYS9u6mLpVFsGgod+AAMpvAbx+wQH1lCmELixm/k9w3+RHw960VqMEEs7lPGJLZn77aOG6T2EiXyqTmz+PGilKGlYqp9VLBXnf1A+gV1FO/j25n78FK84n2PyKH+AOKGp34= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050519081027218740@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:10:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut In-Reply-To: <002d01c55c83$2234bd40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> <002d01c55c83$2234bd40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JFAKtY005224 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thought it was 2 bits. On 5/19/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Wild" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:38 AM > Subject: Shave and a haircut > > > > Where is the term 'shave and a haircut' used to mean knock? > > > > I've never heard or read it before yesterday. > > > > Terry > > I don't know what it means but I can sing it. > It was a little ditty "Shave and a haircut . . six bits." > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 10:30:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JFU6hm030198 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:30:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:30:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00644D78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:30:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1159163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:30:05 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JFU59K009502 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:30:05 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 4CEBCBE8C2; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C556C2849 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut In-Reply-To: <83db447a050519082060d72833@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 19 May 2005, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 5/19/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > I thought it was 2 bits. > Prices were higher west of the Mississippi I learned "ten cents." Depression Baby From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 10:31:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JFVEhm030398 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:31:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:31:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F74D3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:21:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1158208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:21:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JFLDCJ007497 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:21:13 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so787397wri for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.77 with SMTP id i77mr1048518wri; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.36 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:20:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=grlGAaUlY/wOT7hOv5rpbewSpPEaqbiQ3ZJzUwTin2118UWC0sR3s0xKAgHfkD3SoYvj1u6Mf8++M/x2U+XWKY05dhOgIz+JxZgv0eJG2Wv7xIOtzEgmMdodv/BroEe4kxUvqpNIMqZZRwNHrbFrukcfINfNzLjpPTTAQv0G4Wg= Message-ID: <83db447a050519082060d72833@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:20:27 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050519081027218740@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> <002d01c55c83$2234bd40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050519081027218740@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4JFVEhm030398 On 5/19/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > I thought it was 2 bits. Prices were higher west of the Mississippi cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 10:48:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JFmQhm000332 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:48:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:48:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F74E32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:48:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1160960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:48:25 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JFmPVN013500 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:48:25 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:48:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:47:56 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU see: http://www.columnarios.com/twobits.htm BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/19/2005 11:34:21 AM >>> Where does "two bits" come from? Karen, not into biting metal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 10:54:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JFsMhm001121 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:54:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:54:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00644F47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:34:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1159548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:34:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JFYLFv010266 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:34:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so864652nzk for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.15 with SMTP id g15mr472399nzc; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 08:34:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hz825opKWwBeaiggV3pkPb4iNa2qd7eobexMz4BLKD+3FujSUbQ+TOHy7tHUbEwQqWG9foVe1ZpMTDXBAByEXnR/pk2s3sDXsAccq8vP1/m39kOIbMOyisSfhESIvclP7euVBVMoytM7l8jx1IW6tT2Jl9tT1XXmDAjsiAR8174= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505190834148fae8a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:34:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <83db447a050519082060d72833@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JFYLFv010267 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Thu, 19 May 2005, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > On 5/19/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > I thought it was 2 bits. > > Prices were higher west of the Mississippi > > I learned "ten cents." Where does "two bits" come from? Karen, not into biting metal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:56:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcb005539 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:56:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:56:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064501D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1170459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:45 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JH7jmZ031878 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:45 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:32 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU aha! I always suspected you were an anarchist at heart. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/19/2005 12:06:39 PM >>> Karen G. Smith Vienna Scalp and Face Specialist > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:56:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuVcb005535 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:56:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:56:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645002@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:00:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1162513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:00:28 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JG0RCQ016402 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:00:27 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A8FB87B6CF362 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:00:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002a01c55c8b$e11386d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> <002d01c55c83$2234bd40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050519081027218740@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a050519082060d72833@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Shave and a haircut Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:00:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut On 5/19/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > I thought it was 2 bits. Prices were higher west of the Mississippi cwv As I remember, "shave and a haircut . . six bits" was often used as an exit line in vaudeville. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcb005537 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:56:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:56:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00645060@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:38:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1167601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:38:12 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JGcCHV025332 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:38:12 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 20271607 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:56:37 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 19 May 2005 09:38:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:40:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <588041457.20050519104013@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: First Communion In-Reply-To: <200505181626.j4IGQYNH018537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505181626.j4IGQYNH018537@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 202, in=71012, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/18/2005, 10:26 AM, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: ADP> We are going to a friend's son First Communion at a Catholic Church this ADP> weekend., what is the usual dress code for these events. I was thinking a ADP> pair of dress pants, shoes and a button down shirt. The son will not care, ADP> he is 8 or 9. I think that's fine. Some will be wearing coats and ties, but by no means all. Guess I'd wear the coat and tie, since either or both can be so quickly removed if you feel overdressed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcb005536 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:56:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00644F91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:08:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1164189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:08:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JG8JGm019260 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:08:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so727847nzo for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.13 with SMTP id s13mr494379nzc; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:08:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=o9KJI9up4sSFFgBSdCk+zC5hXnwPHrIQq5ifwq3Y4rRNrPLw3d3niDR3ZSHjMbBap2hpxjt/a0w6HgFADKnZWNzbN95GHD2AuEiewYrY1jURpEd4k323Me6Q3SQlA7n27PnzQtc/J2KAyVWtDkFTgYTx48jgFEwVt5fQKiqK/0g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051909081fb0977e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:08:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut In-Reply-To: <002a01c55c8b$e11386d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> <002d01c55c83$2234bd40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050519081027218740@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a050519082060d72833@mail.gmail.com> <002a01c55c8b$e11386d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JG8JGm019265 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.missvalleyorchestra.com/html/slaughter_on_tenth_avenue.html refers to the musical cliche of "shave and a haircut...two bits". On 5/19/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clyde Voigtlander" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut > > > On 5/19/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > I thought it was 2 bits. > > Prices were higher west of the Mississippi > cwv > > As I remember, "shave and a haircut . . six bits" > was often used as an exit line in vaudeville. > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcc005539 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:56:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00645044@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:16:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1171101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:16:00 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHG0Wu000627; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:16:00 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104482228; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:15:59 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519101440.00beaee0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:15:58 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours In-Reply-To: <200505191243.j4JChjil010725@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:43 AM 5/19/2005 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Thanks. Mild heart attack is the tentative diagnosis - she's >being moved to Syracuse for more tests and possible angioplasty >or bypass. Meanwhile latent sibling rivalries are surfacing, >which is natural but very painful. It's all about who got called >first and who gets answers from the doctor and so on. Fun, fun, fun. >clo Isn't that incredible? I went through this with Larry's sister and couldn't believe it. Hang in there and do what you have to for yourself, too. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcc005537 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064505E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:21:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1171443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:21:22 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHLL2i001269 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:21:22 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104484132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:21:21 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519102014.00be2da8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:21:20 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Speaking of Pinole In-Reply-To: <428CA346.3030105@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:31 AM 5/19/2005 -0500, you wrote: >BB: Is your town named for "gruel made of toasted meal"? Ryan told me >that people said that but that he was not sure about it. This is when >we were discussing my erroneous pronunciation of Pinole, which I had >been pronouncing in a sort of Spanish way (but no tilde over the n). > >Pinole - Gruel made of toasted meal. >from: http://www.indian-nations.com/encylope.htm > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) http://www.ci.pinole.ca.us/about/history_summary.html It says: The recorded history of Pinole dates back to the early 1700s when a Spanish commandant, Don Pedro Fages, led an exploration through Contra Costa. With a small band of soldiers and an Indian guide, Don Pedro Fages left Monterey and traveled northward until he reached the area known today as Pinole. According to legend, the soldiers ran out of provisions on their march and found a village of Indians who gave them food. This food consisted of a form of meal, made from acorns, seeds, and wild grain, which they called pinole(derived from the Aztec word pinollimeaning ground and toasted grain or seeds.) Thus, the soldiers named their camp El Pinole,and Pinole received its name. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcb005538 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:56:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006450CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:52:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1169124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:52:52 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JGqpKE028674 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:52:52 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 20457016 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:57:36 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 19 May 2005 09:53:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:54:45 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <93513522.20050519105445@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: it never rains but it pours In-Reply-To: <4622719505051811396c24e8d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505172213.j4HMDxqc031676@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200505181329.j4IDT0fr012107@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <4622719505051811396c24e8d5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 202, in=83421, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/18/2005, 12:39 PM, phil paxton wrote: pp> Anyway, these places are pp> advertised as being more like a hotel than a hospital. When you walk pp> in, it does look like a hotel. The rooms are larger, a pull-down twin pp> bed for someone to sleep with the patient, there's no paper - pp> everything has been digital since it opened. Sounds like a good many Mexican hospitals. They're so family oriented that all the rooms I've ever seen or been in have the extra bed for a family member. And the visiting hours seem to be unlimited. When was in hospital in TJ two years ago, a guy down the hall died of cancer. The family, some twenty folks, though somewhat changing composition, were there grieving for at least 24 hours after he passed away. Finally they took his body away. And the family departed. But it seems every third cousin showed up to see him both before he died, and again after he did. And at least one family member had been there the whole time. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcc005536 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006451B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:37:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1172513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:37:37 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHbb8Y004417 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:37:37 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4JHbZ7a000986 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:37:37 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 ([131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4JHaELT022685 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:36:15 -0400 Message-ID: <0a6901c55c99$41e38a70$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Today marks... Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:36:13 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4JHuWcc005536 R.I.P. T.E. Lawrence... or Shaw, or whatever... the price of fame. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuVcc005535 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:56:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064504C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:17:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1171228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:17:42 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHHgWo000839 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:17:42 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104482825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:17:42 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519101728.00becb90@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:17:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: What Would Alyce Do? In-Reply-To: <428CA1E4.8010303@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:25 AM 5/19/2005 -0500, you wrote: >>Sandra Hess >>No longer of SF, but thereabouts north. >> >Welcome back! It was great seeing you in Pinole. And this brings up >another pronunciation matter: How many of you non-Californians know how >to pronounce Pinole? > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Or Appian Way. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuVcd005535 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006450C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:41:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1172934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:41:37 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHfaqf005170 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:41:36 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 92147359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:40:29 -0400 Message-ID: <428CCFCC.2060209@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:41:32 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut References: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> <002d01c55c83$2234bd40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <428CCF73.8010103@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <428CCF73.8010103@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Eek. Things must have been much cheaper in Mississippi. I always heard > "ten cents." > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) And I remember the "two bits" that somebody else mentioned. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcd005536 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006451D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:42:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1173022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:42:31 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHgVZD005459 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:42:31 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519174231.LTRB2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:42:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519174230.XKQM26760.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:42:30 -0400 Message-ID: <428CD004.2040403@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:42:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut References: <83db447a050519082060d72833@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505190834148fae8a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505190834148fae8a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Where does "two bits" come from? > > Something about slicing up dollar coins in the , I think. The pieces were bits. Two bits would be a fourth of a dollar. Or something like that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcd005537 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006451C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:40:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1172777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:40:09 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHe6aB004944 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:40:06 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519174006.LQVB2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:40:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519174006.XJHQ26760.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:40:06 -0400 Message-ID: <428CCF73.8010103@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:40:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut References: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> <002d01c55c83$2234bd40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <002d01c55c83$2234bd40$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > It was a little ditty "Shave and a haircut . . six bits." Eek. Things must have been much cheaper in Mississippi. I always heard "ten cents." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcd005539 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006451C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:39:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1172711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:39:25 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHdOqE004773 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:39:24 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519173924.LPXX2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:39:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519173924.XIWM26760.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:39:24 -0400 Message-ID: <428CCF49.4050603@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:39:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Pinole References: <428CA346.3030105@maynor.net> <94539327050519075752e71546@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94539327050519075752e71546@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry Clark wrote: >Excuse me for butting in here, but eons ago the Oakland Tribune ran a >series of short articles about the history of the local towns and that >was their theory on the origin of the name. I've never heard any >other. > > Oh good -- I brought Larry out of lurkdom. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcd005538 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645291@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:43:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1173150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:43:53 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHhrBp005719 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:43:53 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519174353.LVGT2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:43:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519174352.XLKV26760.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:43:52 -0400 Message-ID: <428CD056.2070308@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:43:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >see: >http://www.columnarios.com/twobits.htm > > I'd forgotten about "pieces of eight." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWcc005538 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006451B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:37:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1172535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:37:50 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHblWK004463 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:37:47 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519173747.LODK2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:37:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519173747.XIAX26760.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:37:47 -0400 Message-ID: <428CCEE8.3040108@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:37:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut References: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >Where is the term 'shave and a haircut' used to mean knock? > >I've never heard or read it before yesterday. > > You do know the knocking rhythm it goes with, I bet: dot-dotdot-dot-dot---dot-dot. The words that go with that are "shave and a haircut -- ten cents." But when you put the words with it, there's also a tune -- as in pitch change. It's something like c# a a b a c c# (with the c#'s, the c, and the b quarter notes, the first two a's eighth notes, the third a a half note -- or maybe longer). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuVce005535 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064520B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:50:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1173824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:50:07 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHo79N006883 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:50:07 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so866932wra for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.135.7 with SMTP id i7mr1323301wrd; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 10:50:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pB0D9hGSPJVG9L6hi7M0O2VOpRDPtbJxEKAkiQvfbNzBhMG0WWQQXAjCXY+seps7Fto3X04jnjL7ZkABVZU26AFc4k/VWnmVd3aS8X3hMeWE6+B3zCHudzc2bH4qmj761bq0ZKGTTiNyKzP0JBHNmcEabREQV79pRTHlLhZfgOk= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050519105049c03262@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:50:07 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut In-Reply-To: <428CCEE8.3040108@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <44dce1c105051907386e4c286a@mail.gmail.com> <428CCEE8.3040108@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JHo79N006884 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Terry Wild wrote: > > >Where is the term 'shave and a haircut' used to mean knock? > > > >I've never heard or read it before yesterday. > > > > > You do know the knocking rhythm it goes with, I bet: > dot-dotdot-dot-dot---dot-dot. The words that go with that are "shave > and a haircut -- ten cents." But when you put the words with it, > there's also a tune -- as in pitch change. It's something like c# a a b > a c c# (with the c#'s, the c, and the b quarter notes, the first two a's > eighth notes, the third a a half note -- or maybe longer). > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Thank you all. Paul's rhythm note gave me a hint, but I still couldn't place it. I kept knocking on my desk to your dots and I've got it. I know the rhythm, but had no idea of the song menaing behind it. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWce005539 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00645205@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:48:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1172628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:48:42 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHcgXA004648 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:38:42 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 20572362 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:11:08 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 19 May 2005 10:39:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:40:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: Dan Lester Organization: RiverOfData.com Message-ID: <869349600.20050519114044@riverofdata.com> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Fwd: [MCLUHAN] FW: Oxford Adds More than 2,000 New Words to the American Diction ary In-Reply-To: <48F1819CF0FBFC438A9A2771BBC5BAAF049714F8@exchsrv3.intra.camosun.bc.ca> References: <48F1819CF0FBFC438A9A2771BBC5BAAF049714F8@exchsrv3.intra.camosun.bc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 198, in=72784, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is a forwarded message From: Peter Montgomery To: MCLUHAN@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:33:58 PM Subject: [MCLUHAN] FW: Oxford Adds More than 2,000 New Words to the American Diction ary ===8<==============Original message text=============== From: Monty Solomon Oxford Adds More than 2,000 New Words to the American Dictionary 16 May 2005, 05:20am ET NEW YORK, May 16 /PRNewswire/ -- The fashionista needed some smash-mouth retail therapy but those Mary Janes were unobtainum. Confused? Writers, journalists, and anyone who wants to stay on top of our ever-evolving lexicon will find these and over 2,000 other new words given authoritative definitions in The New Oxford American Dictionary Second Edition ($60.00 hardcover, May 16, 2005), "the gold standard of American dictionaries." (The Providence Journal) ... http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200505160920_PRN__NYMF NS1 ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 208-283-7711 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.gailndan.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 12:57:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JHuWce005537 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00645204@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:48:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1172605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:48:19 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHcJ5Q004601 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:38:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 20572320 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:10:44 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 19 May 2005 10:38:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:40:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: Dan Lester Organization: RiverOfData.com Message-ID: <1927018737.20050519114021@riverofdata.com> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Fwd: [MCLUHAN] FW: Merriam-Webster Announces Top Ten Favorite Words (Not in the Dictionary) In-Reply-To: <48F1819CF0FBFC438A9A2771BBC5BAAF049714F7@exchsrv3.intra.camosun.bc.ca> References: <48F1819CF0FBFC438A9A2771BBC5BAAF049714F7@exchsrv3.intra.camosun.bc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 198, in=72782, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is a forwarded message From: Peter Montgomery To: MCLUHAN@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:32:53 PM Subject: [MCLUHAN] FW: Merriam-Webster Announces Top Ten Favorite Words (Not in the Dictionary) ===8<==============Original message text=============== From: Monty Solomon Merriam-Webster Announces Top Ten Favorite Words (Not in the Dictionary) 16 May 2005, 10:43am ET SPRINGFIELD, Mass., May 16 /PRNewswire/ -- Are you a "lingweenie?" According to users of the popular language Web site Merriam-Webster OnLine ( http://www.Merriam-Webster.com ), this is a word for "a person incapable of producing neologisms" -- or, in common parlance, somebody who can't make up new words. And if that describes you, you may very well be in the minority, as Merriam-Webster discovered this past week in its first "What's Your Favorite Word (That's Not in the Dictionary?)" online survey. Thousands of non- dictionary words and their definitions were submitted over a period of approximately two weeks, rivaling the response to 2004's "What's Your Favorite Word?" survey, when Merriam-Webster OnLine visitors overwhelmingly decreed "defenestration" ("a throwing of a person or thing out of a window") to be their favorite word actually found in the pages of the dictionary. You could say the results from 2005's survey were "ginormous (bigger than gigantic and bigger than enormous)" which was, in fact, the word that took the #1 spot in the "Top Ten Words (Not in the Dictionary)" list revealed today at: http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/favorite.htm ... http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=200505161443_PRN__NEM0 44 ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 208-283-7711 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.gailndan.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 13:11:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JIBLcb007615 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:11:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:11:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F74FEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:06:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1163898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:06:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JG6d36018664 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:06:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so726860nzo for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.14 with SMTP id e14mr492166nzb; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 09:06:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BF6Ngc+h+0rkschwfsNfeo1QQ3khn66GlKlqy8N2b5cf22ECnb5geZJULVQFDNJZ3cjyg/sS9jn+C761cf+HU9oSrpO7yHTUlzFgXwPkvH0cQOHICDeGcJG9XyRuDA6cEj98UwfoyXqcMl2tBV1C6+Pq7GsH2QMKWobN7PN2kkA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051909067ccc10fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:06:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JG6d36018671 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you! Karen G. Smith Vienna Scalp and Face Specialist On 5/19/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > see: > http://www.columnarios.com/twobits.htm > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/19/2005 11:34:21 AM >>> > Where does "two bits" come from? > > Karen, > not into biting metal > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 13:11:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JIBLcb007617 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:11:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:11:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F75462@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:55:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1174045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:55:31 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JHtUAd007567 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:55:30 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:55:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:55:00 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Today marks... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There was an interesting article in the Toronto Star this weekend about Lawrence's passion for motorcycles (custom built for him by George Brough). He had named his bikes George I, II etc and it was George VII that killed him. BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 5/19/2005 1:36:13 PM >>> R.I.P. T.E. Lawrence... or Shaw, or whatever... the price of fame. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 13:19:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JIJBcb008840 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:19:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:19:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00645199@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:19:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1175760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:19:10 -0400 Received: from ruby.behosting.com (ruby.behosting.com [209.239.37.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JIJACU012196 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:19:10 -0400 Received: from maximumsentence.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ruby.behosting.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4JIJ9g2028662; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:19:09 -0400 From: "sandra" To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: What Would Alyce Do? Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:19:09 -0500 Message-Id: <20050519181909.M41514@maximumsentence.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519101728.00becb90@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519101728.00becb90@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 1.81 20021127 X-OriginatingIP: 216.31.224.190 (sandra) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 19 May 2005 10:17:41 -0700, Betty Clark wrote > At 09:25 AM 5/19/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >>Sandra Hess > >>No longer of SF, but thereabouts north. > >> > >Welcome back! It was great seeing you in Pinole. And this brings up > >another pronunciation matter: How many of you non-Californians know how > >to pronounce Pinole? > > > >-- > >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Or Appian Way. > > Betty Or La Jolla... Sandra From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 13:50:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JInqcb013753 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:49:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:50:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F75653@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:49:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1179090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:49:51 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JInnno018936 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:49:49 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so878881wri for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.68 with SMTP id i68mr1249742wri; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:49:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hTsAF3qQaq5HxWLYJkIB5YrBwmD+eL1VFe8yUqO631IfqY+nUeHlc5qOZl/aB5JG7L6rwj6EHtiXBmiw392xjgLsOBX/Q/S9oaJraCT2PXgHflcj+675RXNh3pJS5iG2HFpubPiWsWTyRZsQa9+oW2hO7ksllEZfWt9+Li3d160= Message-ID: <8865866a050519114915c8d9dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:49:48 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: photosite Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JInpno018940 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have been working hard on my photosite today. It isn't quite done, yet. However, it has expanded quite a bit. Natalie, you will want to check out the album Miscellaneous, chapter animal pictures. I found some pictures of Bernard that I took and I don't think you've seen them. www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 13:52:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JIqqcb014219 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:52:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:52:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645425@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1179391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:52 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JIqpP5019494 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:51 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so880161wri for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.42 with SMTP id o42mr550817wro; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:52:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z5GNaTvnBCq3en7B5ZRBe0k1sVA0fdlpardP9jEFT9xXwbVkn0NI9QV/qAulUL5680SeUrsT3rF2P14s+hZ/EJI+m4N6kVnyHnFMr7DModphz3kSTChehCSA710YB3k6tmn4wcZaGdVcAPcjn9h6V1zYUQWod2Vi+h8JEnOXbgk= Message-ID: <8865866a05051911526253390e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:52:50 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weather site In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050519082030.01bec9d8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a0505181518a868ea9@mail.gmail.com> <428BC18C.2030701@maynor.net> <8865866a0505190147195f94d3@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050519082030.01bec9d8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JIqqP5019510 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 04:47 AM 5/19/2005, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > > >Neat. When I clicked on the link, it came up automatically in Swedish > >but was still focused on the U.S. I got some weather stats from > >England. Hmmm...I'll have to explore it more later. > > According to weather underground, in Lulea Kallax (65.6N, 22.1E) at 1350 > CEST, it was 7C, relative humidity at 71%, barometer 1011hPa, clear, winds > from the south at 20 km/h. The length of the day is 19h 30 min and the > duration of visible light is 24 h. > > There is also a Lulea Sol, which reports in less detail. Presumably one is > the airport or wherever the official weather station is. > > cwv > Yeah, that's about right. The official weather station is the airport/air force base, about 6 miles from here. It is almost 9 pm and the sun is shining brightly, although it is low in the sky. It is making disco patterns on the walls and ceiling as it shines through our crystal chandelier. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 13:53:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JIqucb014231 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:52:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:53:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064526B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1179412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:55 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JIqtuv019539 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:55 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so892761wra for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.81.14 with SMTP id e14mr1359575wrb; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 11:52:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cJDlQieVuED5/jsODn9UQXZKUj+X47TZirvq5uYPD5DsRtMIXzCY7Ch/5Hq1u0+v3PoQZnBVEpAjpHpCq7mY6b2Y+yMlf2uw3sz/o2Zo+/Bq5ze0ToMf1pr3X0tToQ10vqrBzff/CWO/GmjCsQD014Y5bE9dSWLaC090BU6TiRU= Message-ID: <46227195050519115235b19a1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:52:42 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What Would Alyce Do? In-Reply-To: <428C9B70.3070003@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428C9B70.3070003@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JIqtuv019547 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Remember how much Alyce enjoyed Netflix? I bet she is rolling over in > her grave about its teaming with her enemy Wmart: > > Wal-Mart teams with Netflix on DVD deal > from: http://tinyurl.com/ey2da I found Blockbuster duplicating[1] NetFlix' business model and charging less to be on par with founding a business with an eponymous name.[2] Surely they could have added a twist of some type.[3] Blockbuster was obviously in a hurry because their B&M stores add too many expenses for them (compared to a virtual company) to take time to invent a new model. Time was essential. [1] I'm trying very hard to avoid using "exact same", "same exact", and "exactly the same". I might have to find an empty wastebasket or visit the euphemism if it happens. [2] Obvious exceptions are Taylor and using "Taylor Made" although that's becoming trite. I need to create "TV Bingo!" [online?] and have a square (and only one square) because it happens so often: Joe Goober of "The Goober Group" being interviewed for some reason. [3] Claiming no "overdue charges" and forcibly selling the goods to the renter doesn't count. Someone's brain was working on Fruit Loops. It reminds me of an article I read several years ago about some of the "blue sky" meetings where advertising decisions would be made. McDonald's 55 cent Big Macs were the product of one such session: "People will drive down the road, see 'Speed Limit 55' and think: '55'! That's the price of a Big Mac!" I haven't figured out which is dumber: The people who dream this stuff up or the fact they believe we'll fall for it. "No one ever lost money underestimating human intelligence." -Phineas Taylor Barnum From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 14:10:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JJAZcb016297 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:10:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:10:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064529B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:00:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1180285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:00:18 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JJ0I45021110 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:00:18 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F75720@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:00:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200505191900.j4JJ0I45021110@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:00:17 -0400 From: John Williams Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Toons. It gets 'em every time." - Judge Doom JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 14:10:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JJAZcc016297 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:10:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:10:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006452A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:02:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1180404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:02:05 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JJ24Jx021400 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:02:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-86.gwi.net [216.195.163.86]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4JJ1kjo063248; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:01:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050519145702.01c14a78@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:01:32 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: What Would Alyce Do? In-Reply-To: <20050519181909.M41514@maximumsentence.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519101728.00becb90@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050519181909.M41514@maximumsentence.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:19 PM 5/19/2005, sandra wrote: >Or La Jolla... Or Chequamegon cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 14:10:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JJAZcd016297 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:10:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:10:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645499@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:04:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1181176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:04:52 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JJ4q6T022428 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:04:52 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104520196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:04:52 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:04:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: photosite In-Reply-To: <8865866a050519114915c8d9dc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:49 PM 5/19/2005 +0200, you wrote: >I have been working hard on my photosite today. It isn't quite done, >yet. However, it has expanded quite a bit. Natalie, you will want to >check out the album Miscellaneous, chapter animal pictures. I found >some pictures of Bernard that I took and I don't think you've seen >them. > >www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com > > >Marcia And Earl!! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 14:10:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JJAZce016297 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:10:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:10:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00645334@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:08:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1181946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:08:08 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JJ87sa023034 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:08:08 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so898517wra for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.31 with SMTP id 31mr587903wrd; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 12:08:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZHqhUpcC07bF4jYc067rdO2sv4xq+do0+Hrw8tOsAPcfMJSOQ24lIBXvvlSAGln/4mWh3kY9S/QzXNCwjfe9SyndStAPvXzJ83hCFMCi8FiWOFquhspM2yvsqUHtIaoIqrLawTYO1yVrzW958hAtLPrzmnmXUhT59sw0Ne6lVaQ= Message-ID: <44dce1c105051912083d6a724f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:08:07 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What Would Alyce Do? In-Reply-To: <46227195050519115235b19a1e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428C9B70.3070003@maynor.net> <46227195050519115235b19a1e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JJ88sa023035 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, phil paxton wrote: > I found Blockbuster duplicating[1] NetFlix' business model and > charging less to be on par with founding a business with an eponymous > name.[2] Surely they could have added a twist of some type.[3] > Blockbuster was obviously in a hurry because their B&M stores add too > many expenses for them (compared to a virtual company) to take time to > invent a new model. Time was essential. And now ATM/Vending machines for DVDs are showing up where for a buck you get a movie for 6 hours. I read they are in McDonald's in Denver and in Manhattan's SoHo district. (Source: BusinessWeek 5/23/05) Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 15:05:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JK4Bcb023417 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:04:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:05:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006455A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:04:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1186472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:04:11 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JK4AwE000733 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:04:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so920619wra for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.11.31 with SMTP id 31mr1212676wrk; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:04:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GCcUel5WACgvvjjXtp2gR9pnp+RfjtEZARzORUGpBd1O8JS7JRkexgttlstw9tldAMhnQTXwO0fjp5uN0qsI/hK3A4TfxalK8XchLBftFlbPrb/1iS52iLcldwa6z3lxtcJ+UeZeuckQpeznA61B1Y1wUdvm0ay4ed8L2Pv6VdM= Message-ID: <46227195050519130415ac5652@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:04:08 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What Would Alyce Do? In-Reply-To: <44dce1c105051912083d6a724f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428C9B70.3070003@maynor.net> <46227195050519115235b19a1e@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c105051912083d6a724f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JK4AwE000736 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Terry Wild wrote: > And now ATM/Vending machines for DVDs are showing up where for a buck > you get a movie for 6 hours. I read they are in McDonald's in Denver > and in Manhattan's SoHo district. (Source: BusinessWeek 5/23/05) Just peachy. It's bad enough they don't have roofs for vehicles which are ordering can open their windows and not take a bath when it rains Sounds like an idea for a patent. Another one is a new feature for movie theatres: it's called an "intermission": you can get up and stretch, go to the euphemism, get a refill, or anything else you'd like to do but don't want to miss a few minutes of the movie. The profit margin on their "foods" is high enough I'm surprised they don't give people time to reload. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 15:26:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JKQMcb026884 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:26:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:26:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00645541@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:26:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1188897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:26:21 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JKQL4e005133 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:26:21 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519202621.UEAK2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:26:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519202621.YDST8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:26:21 -0400 Message-ID: <428CF66A.2040200@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:26:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photosite References: <8865866a050519114915c8d9dc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a050519114915c8d9dc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >some pictures of Bernard that I took and I don't think you've seen >them. > >www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com > > Neat! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 15:37:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JKbMcb028755 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:37:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:37:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00645544@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:27:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1188938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:27:21 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JKRL8j005217 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:27:21 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519202721.UFQK2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:27:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519202721.YEIO8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:27:21 -0400 Message-ID: <428CF6A6.2030505@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:27:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photosite References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com >> Marcia > > And Earl!! Where was Earl? I didn't see him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 15:37:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JKbMcb028757 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:37:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:37:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645717@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:31:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1189304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:31:13 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JKVDpC005768 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:31:13 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so535442rnf for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.14.66 with SMTP id 66mr1271825rnn; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:31:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aocXhYKMFMMbxMrRi9G3d4TpfysDBW1zNlV3wHTT57hq9fDM6I2p2zVYBerUC5W9unapX6pYTcLu26Ia3T+AMWguH0OrZpXwfjSJ/YZWJoS3o3wAIGraoc96gZ4urzr3oT4IK+ZfxJLty9Jvdt0U67PBUYhP86YyKIF716tnNqs= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:31:13 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <428BE690.90706@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050517084408.00bff258@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428A2460.5090800@maynor.net> <428BE690.90706@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JKVDpC005775 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > My favorite of your SF trips was the birthday surprise. That was SF, > wasn't it -- when Barbara planned the trip and lured you to the airport > and then onto the plane as a surprise? Your 40th, iirc. But are you > old enough for that to have been your 40th? It seems like a long time > ago -- and was pre-children. Yup - that was my 40th, and now I'm 51.5 or so. And by a remarkable coincidence, Little Emily will turn 11 in June. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 15:39:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JKdYcb029025 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:39:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:39:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F75C38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:39:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1191027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:39:34 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JKdY2v007434 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:39:34 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104554192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:39:29 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519133910.00c399b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:39:28 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: photosite In-Reply-To: <428CF6A6.2030505@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:27 PM 5/19/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>>www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com >>>Marcia >> >>And Earl!! > >Where was Earl? I didn't see him. http://www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com/misc/Chapter3/?page=2 Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 16:06:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JL5ocb000545 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:05:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:06:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064561B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:45:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1191462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:45:49 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JKjnBe008549 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:45:49 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104555994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 13:45:49 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519134515.00c3e708@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:45:48 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: photosite In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519133910.00c399b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <428CF6A6.2030505@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Where was Earl? I didn't see him. > >http://www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com/misc/Chapter3/?page=2 > >Betty Did you go to page 3 for another of Bernard? http://www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com/misc/Chapter3/?page=3 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 16:06:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JL5ocb000550 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:05:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:06:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00645663@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:03:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1192864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:03:59 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JL3x9k011838 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:03:59 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519210359.WAN2395.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:03:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519210358.FPYW8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:03:58 -0400 Message-ID: <428CFF3C.6070406@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:03:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photosite References: <428CF6A6.2030505@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050519134515.00c3e708@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519134515.00c3e708@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Did you go to page 3 for another of Bernard? > > http://www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com/misc/Chapter3/?page=3 Yes. I miss Berndardykins. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 16:06:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JL5ocb000549 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:05:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:06:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064581C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:02:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1192813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:02:59 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JL2xB6011703 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:02:59 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519210259.VCW2395.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:02:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519210258.FPQZ8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:02:58 -0400 Message-ID: <428CFF00.4040003@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:02:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photosite References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050519120438.00c09a08@calmail.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20050519133910.00c399b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519133910.00c399b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> Where was Earl? I didn't see him. > > http://www.rayofsunshine.photosite.com/misc/Chapter3/?page=2 I looked back at that one but thought it was a cat! I hope Earl isn't rolling in his grave at my mistake. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 16:06:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JL5ocb000551 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:05:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:06:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00645763@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:01:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1192633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:01:02 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JL12F2011305 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:01:02 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519210102.TIG2395.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:01:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519210101.FOYW8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:01:01 -0400 Message-ID: <428CFE8B.90107@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:00:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Papal Matters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A cousin just sent me this: > I don't normally pass on political statements, but I got this from a > good friend and I thought it was interesting. > > As I understand it, Ratzinger was not the Cardinals first choice. That > was, interestingly, Cardinal Hans Grapje. was raised in a Catholic > school in The Hague and, as a > young man, aspired to become a priest, but was drafted into the Army > during WWII and spent two years co-piloting B17s until his aircraft was > shot down in 1943 and he lost his left arm. Captain Grapje spent the > rest of the war as a chaplain, giving spiritual aid to soldiers, both > Allied and enemy. > > After the war, he became a priest, serving as a missionary in Africa, > piloting his own plane (in spite of his handicap) to villages across > the continent. In 1997, Father Grapje was serving in Zimbabwe when an > explosion in a silver mine caused a cave-in. Archbishop Grapje went > down into the mine to administer last rights to those too severely > injured to move. Another shaft collapsed, and he was buried for > three days, suffering multiple injuries, including the loss of his right > eye. The high silver content in the mine's air gave him purpura, a > life-long condition characterized by purplish skin blotches. > > Although Cardinal Grapje devoted his life to the service of God as a > scholar, mentor, and holy man, church leaders felt that he should > never ascend to the Papacy. > > They felt that the Church would never accept a one-eyed, one-armed, > flying purple Papal leader From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 16:48:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JLm0cb006207 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:48:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:48:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006458B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:47:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1197532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:47:59 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JLlxkQ017444 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:47:59 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519214759.ZEFN7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:47:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519214759.HIVU25991.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:47:59 -0400 Message-ID: <428D098C.9090000@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:47:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Better Fan Picture Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.maynor.net/Temp/SF/fan2.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 16:49:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JLn1cb006347 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:49:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:49:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645A72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:49:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1197553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:49:00 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JLn0An017495 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:49:00 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.108]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050519214900.ZFAN7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:49:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.108]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050519214900.HJFF25991.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:49:00 -0400 Message-ID: <428D09C9.8080203@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:48:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Att: BB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What time is your retirement party? Is it tonight, or was it at noon? I bet it won't be as good a party as Saturday's was! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 16:52:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JLq8cb006614 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:52:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:52:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006459CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1197704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JLq7Fd017803 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so912870nzo for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.100.5 with SMTP id x5mr616572nzb; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SLGzFu3qJx+Oywt8SoCkFIPQFx2fKU5ucjXoqDrreOHOWTF0ZcGWuATLJHiY84Px/OuJlcgR5mFnptTGsuD/N5l5bDtZYsLlsvDysE7oyv+ZMAp3OwRyYEHcvDKRK3Qrl3OL1pvmo36QZ7IFn0U5yTP++JIACuZtYKz/T8Shif4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:52:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: CDs and plastic bags Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JLq8Fd017804 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I gave a CD without a case to someone at work who returned it to me in an ordinary, not nonstatic, plastic bag. Is this as wrong as I think it is? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 16:53:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JLqvcb006689 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:52:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:53:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006459CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1197739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:57 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JLqu9a017866 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:52:56 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104576568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:56 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519145245.00c3ef68@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:52:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Better Fan Picture In-Reply-To: <428D098C.9090000@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:47 PM 5/19/2005 -0500, you wrote: >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/SF/fan2.jpg > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Perfect! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 16:54:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JLsqcb006913 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:54:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:54:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006459D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:54:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1197788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:54:46 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JLskJX017980 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:54:46 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104577151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:54:46 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519145307.00bfcb90@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:54:42 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Att: BB In-Reply-To: <428D09C9.8080203@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:48 PM 5/19/2005 -0500, you wrote: >What time is your retirement party? Is it tonight, or was it at noon? >I bet it won't be as good a party as Saturday's was! > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It's starts in one more hour, and I'm ready for it to all be over now. Nothing can beat Saturday for me. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 16:59:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JLx7cb007648 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:59:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:59:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F75FE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:59:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1199134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:58:11 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JLw9UG018683 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:58:09 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so553867rnf for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.89.40 with SMTP id m40mr1320493rnb; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 14:58:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H6XI8LA8kXZs3NMoPL7NK2SK9PClVZ1Z8RAiqiSj/aNqvnuQWk7T3K7iyTwvRC9FCBcwAF95GpPgwwDBkPhWjGNEo3d+ZJC/fBhU49sxA/SM607CjjHIBeou5hVEORs2bxhdN3VHJ5xEb3CxhnWZ/syRObGPRNGBim4sUJ7xOyU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:58:09 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JLw9UG018684 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I gave a CD without a case to someone at work who returned it to me in > an ordinary, not nonstatic, plastic bag. Is this as wrong as I think > it is? I don't think so. Why would a CD need an anti-static bag? There are no electrical components on a CD. Scratches are the problem, and an anti-static bag isn't any less likely to scratch the surface. Any bag might well melt onto the surface if left e.g. in the sun in a car. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 17:06:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JM62cb009025 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:06:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:06:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00645AAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:06:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1199854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:06:02 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JM61tj019521 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:06:01 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-86.gwi.net [216.195.163.86]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4JM5u0o076736; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:06:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050519175632.01c29020@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:58:11 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:52 PM 5/19/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I gave a CD without a case to someone at work who returned it to me in >an ordinary, not nonstatic, plastic bag. Is this as wrong as I think >it is? Did it come back with mayonnaise on it? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 17:15:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JMFZcb010127 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:15:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:15:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006459D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:15:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1200417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:15:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JMFX1u020199 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:15:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1064397nzk for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.17 with SMTP id g17mr630505nzg; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aBKi9AnuiPRNjctGbSoTdXsHgW92+9nJQfcmcoD4LRPy2g8HEhgJco4leVfY1TGQhLGOPcePxAPV8IcvwGn+QDZQUmPnnYH3MLxsaujRoZWMjfNTlYsOFrQOXAxqQsbhM7l14TdJhVm0cB1EkCgDTKwMe1KcowhvaUvY3xj03s0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050519151543fd3df1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:15:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: BB In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519145307.00bfcb90@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428D09C9.8080203@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050519145307.00bfcb90@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JMFY1u020201 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But tomorrow is still your last day, right? How anticlimactic! Karen On 5/19/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 04:48 PM 5/19/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >What time is your retirement party? Is it tonight, or was it at noon? > >I bet it won't be as good a party as Saturday's was! > > > >-- > >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > It's starts in one more hour, and I'm ready for it to all be over > now. Nothing can beat Saturday for me. > > Betty > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 17:16:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JMGWcb010297 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:16:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:16:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645B99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:16:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1200479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:16:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JMGVkp020256 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:16:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1247560nzp for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.20 with SMTP id t20mr625785nzt; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:16:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Xs9CM+Aq8d3O0ewhu0oGvGZvJ02s/FHlB0b4+gt+8r2tX3k4R3nILjZy0JT4NGd1CXxVg9NY4Crwu3UGC80IoQq1Nvkanqp9ajPA6LaX2n5GG7eHJfQBwy9Fz2RLMG3E4vR5kGPXkIwqxAQs3ITo9f+ufp9ih/IDhqHAa+/rGC4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050519151667108d28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:16:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JMGVkp020257 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > I don't think so. Why would a CD need an anti-static bag? There are no > electrical components on a CD. Scratches are the problem, and an > anti-static bag isn't any less likely to scratch the surface. Okay. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 17:17:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JMHDcb010441 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:17:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:17:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00645AEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:17:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1200542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:17:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JMHDMw020319 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:17:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1065009nzk for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.20 with SMTP id x20mr630829nzx; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:17:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ucbDZ63x0hc9ROu6mZ97b7WDMaKX1HpgT+cyHM5ywaJzhPm4FAyFZOOTHuvQ3LNGcJmNsgNVrupfPTbAI/fE26TLbpZi2c0Ry7Vd9llEPC1tmwlRfPH3bpVFSb9o9KeRkoYXQRJa/rKZtfqd8Z+3IOuz/yzSFoL7km97/JcOoF0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705051915177b2a0817@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:17:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050519175632.01c29020@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050519175632.01c29020@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JMHDMw020323 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 05:52 PM 5/19/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >I gave a CD without a case to someone at work who returned it to me in > >an ordinary, not nonstatic, plastic bag. Is this as wrong as I think > >it is? > > > Did it come back with mayonnaise on it? No, he must have brought a clean bag from home, which is why I find it even more bizarre. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 17:34:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JMYhcb012789 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:34:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:34:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645BB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:24:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1200844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:24:42 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JMOgrc020878 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:24:42 -0400 Received: from [169.229.15.35] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO B4NM411.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 104588270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:24:41 -0700 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519152428.00bccb98@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:24:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Att: BB In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050519151543fd3df1@mail.gmail.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050519145307.00bfcb90@calmail.berkeley.edu> <428D09C9.8080203@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20050519145307.00bfcb90@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I won't stay long. :-) Betty At 05:15 PM 5/19/2005 -0500, you wrote: >But tomorrow is still your last day, right? How anticlimactic! > >Karen > >On 5/19/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 04:48 PM 5/19/2005 -0500, you wrote: > > >What time is your retirement party? Is it tonight, or was it at noon? > > >I bet it won't be as good a party as Saturday's was! > > > > > >-- > > >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > > > It's starts in one more hour, and I'm ready for it to all be over > > now. Nothing can beat Saturday for me. > > > > Betty > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 17:56:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JMuVcb015577 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:56:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:56:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00645B43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:56:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1201769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:56:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JMuUJm023277 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:56:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1078050nzk for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.18 with SMTP id h18mr642190nzc; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:56:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=W5NQ6k017CBKndxTCx01CJpmZL2wCHSXmdwz2zLdwgfASbBp4bnybdnt+js94JWwUj4VIJYh3U5zNzAPNGdWxjsbrxUOrgI2gPpFqj1HVl500erRrwgU03Bmw5SXv3tAMQhPVWUE1c5Yu8FMkGncevl4YBjFKKzEwC5sFz5KACw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505191556561c139f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:56:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I learned a new word from NPR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JMuUJm023278 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wookie Hooky From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 18:12:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JNCecb017934 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:12:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:12:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645CA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:12:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1203421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:12:40 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JNCd6O024695 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:12:40 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FE611B8654C2 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:12:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001201c55cc8$41866af0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: CDs and plastic bags Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 18:12:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Harminc" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags > On 5/19/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> I gave a CD without a case to someone at work who returned it to me in >> an ordinary, not nonstatic, plastic bag. Is this as wrong as I think >> it is? > > I don't think so. Why would a CD need an anti-static bag? There are no > electrical components on a CD. Scratches are the problem, and an > anti-static bag isn't any less likely to scratch the surface. > > Any bag might well melt onto the surface if left e.g. in the sun in a car. > > Tony H. What things do need an anti-static bag? My wireless card? What else? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 18:24:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4JNNtcb019457 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:23:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 18:24:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00645B1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:23:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1204017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:23:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JNNsP2025520 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:23:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so945383nzo for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.11 with SMTP id s11mr645162nzc; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 16:23:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lKOQ5e+yYkz/RuCQjYcmmEtNKJsxhmf0ZWr61KoJ/O4lnU3YqgU0qotPHNgxdTV4XGj0vsPHJ0Lqi0BbFiOcB22jqvffuZcaqvLHCONQCD7Uyzed8dEw5Sm9FXv5y+sdGsL4s95gfXlk2ae8QMvmo2HzjXZg00blTVecf8+FcbI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505191623e9ad850@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 18:23:53 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <001201c55cc8$41866af0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <001201c55cc8$41866af0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4JNNsP2025521 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Doris Markland wrote: > What things do need an anti-static bag? > My wireless card? What else? Anything with a chip on it--that is, any kind of card or board. If you have a network card, that came in antistatic packaging. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 19:14:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K0E7cb025932 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:14:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:14:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645DD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:04:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1206316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:04:06 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4JNs5uO028436 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:54:05 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j4JNs5Go027303 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:54:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200505192354.j4JNs5Go027303@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Come see my four favorite shots from this year which I just put into an album and labelled Hawaii-05. Gee that sounds familiar. > > - D. M. > > You're invited to view these photos online at Kodak Easyshare Gallery! > Just click on View Photos to get started. > http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=0&y=cfgdi8 I hate sites that 'collect' your information. This is the only photo site that I've yet set that will not let you view photos unless you set up an account. UGH!!! Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 19:14:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K0E7cb025934 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:14:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:14:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00645D59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:13:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1206902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:13:12 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4K03BqU029417 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:03:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 90301 invoked by uid 1003); 20 May 2005 00:03:11 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:03:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Chicago crime Message-ID: <20050520000310.GA87279@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A somewhat Kestenbaum-ish site and a good use of the web: http://www.chicagocrime.org/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 19:15:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K0Flcb026284 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:15:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:15:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00645D66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:15:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1207058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:15:47 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K05lQ1029672 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:05:47 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j4K05kcU027456; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:05:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200505200005.j4K05kcU027456@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 Cc: jboor@math.umb.edu Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Now I can't get in even though I did set up an account ... the page comes up asking me to sign in, but it won't accept any input ... I did not see any picture with a stream ... only a swimming pool and a great photo of a sunset framed against palm trees ... J From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 19:27:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K0RZcb028086 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:27:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:27:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645E57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:27:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1208356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:27:34 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K0RYka031483 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:27:34 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C02639C88E795 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:27:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c55cd2$b78b62a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505192354.j4JNs5Go027303@math.umb.edu> Subject: Re: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:27:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Boorstein" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 >> Come see my four favorite shots from this year which I just put into an >> album and labelled Hawaii-05. Gee that sounds familiar. >> >> - D. M. >> >> You're invited to view these photos online at Kodak Easyshare Gallery! >> Just click on View Photos to get started. >> http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=0&y=cfgdi8 > > I hate sites that 'collect' your information. This is the only photo > site that I've yet set that will not let you view photos unless you set up > an account. UGH!!! > > Joan My fault. I forgot to check the box that said you didn't have to. Sorry. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 19:42:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K0fxcb029948 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:42:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 19:42:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645EAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:41:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1208586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:41:59 -0400 Received: from bor-n-mail01.ofoto.com (bor-n-mail01.ofoto.com [66.128.224.80]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K0Vxn6031858 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:31:59 -0400 Received: from web46.ofoto.com (web46.ofoto.com [10.0.0.116]) by bor-n-mail01.ofoto.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4K0VwoB002838 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:31:58 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by web46.ofoto.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4K0Vv2J005792 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 17:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200505200031.j4K0Vv2J005792@web46.ofoto.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:31:57 -0700 (PDT) From: dmarkld@ncfcomm.com To: Words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: View my Hawaii photos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here it is again and you don't have to have an account. D. M. You're invited to view these photos online at Kodak Easyshare Gallery! Just click on View Photos to get started. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=0&y=cfgdi8 If you'd like to save this album, just sign in, or if you're new to the Gallery, create a free account. Once you've signed in, you'll be able to view this album whenever you want and order Kodak prints of your favorite photos. Enjoy! Instructions: Click view photos to begin. If you're an existing member you'll be asked to sign in. If not, you can join the Gallery for free. http://www.kodakgallery.com/Register.jsp Questions? Visit http://help.kodakgallery.com. ------------------------------------------------ EASYSHARE Gallery Customer Service http://help.kodakgallery.com/support Phone: (800) 360-9098 Outside the US and Canada: (512) 651-9770 ------------------------------------------------ If you cannot see the links above, copy and paste the following URL directly into your browser: http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=0&y=cfgdi8 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 20:24:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K1Ohcb002559 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:24:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:24:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F76649@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:24:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1212068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:24:43 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K1Ohmr004203 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:24:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7665C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:24:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200505200124.j4K1Ohmr004203@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:24:43 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 19 May 2005 11:00:29 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Clyde Voigtlander" >To: >Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:20 AM >Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut > > >On 5/19/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> I thought it was 2 bits. > > Prices were higher west of the Mississippi > cwv > >As I remember, "shave and a haircut . . six bits" >was often used as an exit line in vaudeville. > > - D. M. ...which is why the rhythm was so familiar it could be a speakeasy/ kids' clubhouse kind of "secret knock" - the doorkeeper rapped out the first part, and "two bits" was the answer. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 20:30:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K1Twcb002910 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:29:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:30:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00645FBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:29:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1212338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:29:58 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K1TwTh004681 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:29:58 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F76630@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:29:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200505200129.j4K1TwTh004681@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:29:58 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: it never rains but it pours To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 19 May 2005 10:15:58 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >At 08:43 AM 5/19/2005 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>Thanks. Mild heart attack is the tentative diagnosis - she's >>being moved to Syracuse for more tests and possible angioplasty >>or bypass. Meanwhile latent sibling rivalries are surfacing, >>which is natural but very painful. It's all about who got called >>first and who gets answers from the doctor and so on. Fun, fun, fun. >>clo > >Isn't that incredible? I went through this with Larry's sister and >couldn't believe it. > >Hang in there and do what you have to for yourself, too. > >Betty ty. doing for myself finally meant going to the hospital and waiting with my dad... the other five sibs were otherwise occupied, as it turned out. 3 yrs ago when he had bypass, all sibs and g-children were there the whole time, much like the Mexican hospital description. I think everyone used up their family feeling on the 50th or something. weird. ps - angioplasty, stints in 2 arteries, so far so good. clo, tired. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 20:31:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K1VCcb002999 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:31:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:31:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00645E03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:31:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1212382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:31:11 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K1VBct004840 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:31:11 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F76684@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:31:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200505200131.j4K1VBct004840@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:31:11 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Shave and a haircut To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:42:28 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >A Friend of Andy wrote: > >>Where does "two bits" come from? >> >> >Something about slicing up dollar coins in the , I think. >The pieces were bits. Two bits would be a fourth of a dollar. Or >something like that. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) ahem - pieces of eight? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 21:10:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K29xcb007017 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:10:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:10:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F76848@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:09:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1216811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:09:58 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K29wMG011497 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:09:58 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.130.18]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050520020958.ISLN2395.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:09:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.130.18]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050520020957.IJHF8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:09:57 -0400 Message-ID: <428D46F3.7070004@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:09:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Chicago crime References: <20050520000310.GA87279@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050520000310.GA87279@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >A somewhat Kestenbaum-ish site and a good use of the web: > >http://www.chicagocrime.org/ > > We have one too: http://www.jacksoncrime.org/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 21:11:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K2BXcb007280 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:11:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:11:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00646087@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:11:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1216928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:11:32 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K2BWTo011649 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:11:32 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.130.18]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050520021132.ITJN2395.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:11:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.130.18]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050520021132.IJPF8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:11:32 -0400 Message-ID: <428D4752.7080602@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:11:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my Hawaii photos References: <200505200031.j4K0Vv2J005792@web46.ofoto.com> In-Reply-To: <200505200031.j4K0Vv2J005792@web46.ofoto.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >Here it is again and you don't have to have an account. > > YaY! It finally worked for me! I was beginning to think it hated me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 21:32:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K2W7cb010059 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:32:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 21:32:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006460E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:32:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1217810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:32:07 -0400 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K2W6kN013870 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:32:07 -0400 Received: from Sweetikitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.74.5422497f (3940) for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:31:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Sweetikitt@aol.com Message-ID: <74.5422497f.2fbea61f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:31:59 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Today marks... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 5/19/2005 12:37:41 PM Central Daylight Time, awild@URI.EDU writes: R.I.P. T.E. Lawrence... or Shaw, or whatever... the price of fame. R.I.P. Frank Gorshin Evelyn Duncan sweetikitt@aol.com It's my cat's world; I'm just here to open cans. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 22:27:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K3REcb017336 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:27:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:27:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064644B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:27:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1225327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:27:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K3R83P021209 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:27:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1349394nzp for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.19 with SMTP id m19mr659088nzm; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2005 20:27:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BPLGHL1rL87sXCRC+dukKSBu5Q7jf6MPDFETo+QY5mLqoUmKc/3R+uSHMrhWGNIshRJdEV9n5sTGuXmXer9YSdy0UYVAUFHrdhvQCSOB42BHFoV9+3AKDMCQSqAu/ZKNXoWLLtanU288NoeiGVe5YYaY4/lzemjmir1K9bJ4MUU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050519202720ff2159@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:27:08 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 In-Reply-To: <200505192354.j4JNs5Go027303@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505192354.j4JNs5Go027303@math.umb.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4K3R93P021210 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > > Come see my four favorite shots from this year which I just put into an album and labelled Hawaii-05. Gee that sounds familiar. > > > > - D. M. > > > > You're invited to view these photos online at Kodak Easyshare Gallery! > > Just click on View Photos to get started. > > http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=5x8ohpb.c7d8a4kj&x=0&y=cfgdi8 > > I hate sites that 'collect' your information. This is the only photo > site that I've yet set that will not let you view photos unless you set up > an account. UGH!!! It didn't make me set up an account--but it's certainly not the only one that makes you set up an account to view the photos. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 22:37:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K3bCcb018321 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:37:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:37:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006462AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:37:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1225711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:37:11 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K3bBI2021922 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:37:11 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.130.18]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050520033711.OHYH2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:37:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.130.18]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050520033710.KZVM15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:37:10 -0400 Message-ID: <428D5B64.8070407@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:37:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: View my photos: Hawaii 05 References: <200505192354.j4JNs5Go027303@math.umb.edu> <8ddfc8a7050519202720ff2159@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050519202720ff2159@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >It didn't make me set up an account--but it's certainly not the only >one that makes you set up an account to view the photos. > > If a site requires me to register to see photos, I . I don't mind registering to read newspapers like the NYT. Somehow that feels different to me from being asked to register to view somebody's personal pictures at a picture-viewing site. I'm not really wild about most picture-viewing sites anyway. I did use fotopic for my Acadiafest pictures but didn't like the result. I prefer to put pictures in my own web space. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 23:05:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K45Qcb021950 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:05:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:05:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006462F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:58:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1226570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:58:34 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K3wXuC023629 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:58:33 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B826C1A570F66 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 22:58:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c55cf0$308ed2a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505200129.j4K1TwTh004681@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: it never rains but it pours Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:58:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > ty. > doing for myself finally meant going to the hospital and waiting with > my dad... the other five sibs were otherwise occupied, as it turned out. > 3 yrs ago when he had bypass, all sibs and g-children were there the > whole time, much like the Mexican hospital description. I think everyone > used up their family feeling on the 50th or something. weird. > > ps - angioplasty, stints in 2 arteries, so far so good. > clo, tired. It's great that you are there for your mother. It doesn't matter about the other "kids." - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 19 23:05:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K45Qcb021949 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:05:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:05:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006463CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:45:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1225944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:45:25 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K3jPng022444 for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:45:25 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.130.18]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050520034525.OKKR2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:45:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.130.18]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050520034524.LATV15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 23:45:24 -0400 Message-ID: <428D5D53.7020104@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:45:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: fotopic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Re my not liking these picture places -- I have no idea now how to find my acadiafest pictures. If I had put them in my own space, I would be able to find them. I just went to fotopic.net and searched but couldn't find them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 00:30:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4K5UXcb001639 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 00:30:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 00:30:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006464FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 1:30:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1232446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 01:30:32 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4K5URJ7031992 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 01:30:27 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F76FCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 1:30:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200505200530.j4K5URJ7031992@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 01:30:27 -0400 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Chicago crime To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oakland has a similar, although more detailed, service: http://www.oaklandnet.com/cw/cwmain.jsp . It was invaluable to me when I was house-hunting -- steered me away from several otherwise nice places. 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What else? > > Anything with a chip on it--that is, any kind of card or board. If you > have a network card, that came in antistatic packaging. It's probably just habit. No different than I find myself hitting the turn signal when I back out of the driveway and again when I turn in. The purpose of the anti-static bag is actually to keep the static doing what it's supposed to do. Static electricity travels on surfaces and through small layers on occasion. The purpose of the bag is to keep the static electricity on the outer layer of the bag [and only on the outside of the bag] and dispersed in any way possible without penetrating in any way. As far as the circuit cards go, I can't do my own hardware work any more. I have always used one grounding wrist strap but I started having problems and added a second one but continued to fry things. So now I have to figure out what I want done, run down to CompUSA, have them put it in, test it, and take it back home. The round trip takes longer than it does for them to put it in, boot it, test it, shut it down, and boot it and test it one last time. ve gone so far as to ground myself with wrist straps on both wrists and managed to fry boards. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 07:44:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KCiUkS006815 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 07:44:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 07:44:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F77635@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 8:34:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1246426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:34:29 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KCYTh6024896 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:34:29 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.66]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050520123429.SMVQ2395.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:34:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.66]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050520123429.KNPM8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:34:29 -0400 Message-ID: <428DD952.1050503@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 07:34:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: For Ben Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU About the USM President: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050520/NEWS01/505200367/1002 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 07:47:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KCljkS007223 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 07:47:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 07:47:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F77691@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 8:47:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1247195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:47:45 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KCljOW026678 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:47:45 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1210029wra for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 05:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.97.14 with SMTP id u14mr1119796wrb; Fri, 20 May 2005 05:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 05:47:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HShINifl2jZsoca7sF6TqtTu//ZFytQIFO5jiiQZjddMvA2msoR7ZJIHyXgrXlBB32Za7lKwx4yq5Ss8SWA5rzyJ9BhfThtGALQuEKUeQy90bWu7giCYPZm1KqNtlpRdLAkABZOKGGmKdMwrp9qOW7AtKXmSNa089eSQhNtSLyc= Message-ID: <44dce1c105052005471223e35e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 08:47:45 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: fotopic In-Reply-To: <428D5D53.7020104@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428D5D53.7020104@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KCljOW026679 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://maynor.fotopic.net/ On 5/19/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Re my not liking these picture places -- I have no idea now how to find > my acadiafest pictures. If I had put them in my own space, I would be > able to find them. I just went to fotopic.net and searched but couldn't > find them. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:21:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdE006708 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00646E01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:11:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1261442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:11:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KFBDcv022289 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:11:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so1086529nzn for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.157.11 with SMTP id f11mr869821nze; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:11:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YUOzkQLGQe09EiKDkByD8BfqWtLKHECUf6GZmmfVJa4/b4UHYcjY+UXbuDE9i5zktOQRY/b4vkXwwkZ8IBwze2ptJA93im4GCMedXoUWZwY9LCnPPJfI8wGXVEjb/d/JkFeT4vedNgxn2hiTXQI81m2b7iYjk51kFoKOh/DdnfU= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:11:12 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: what fun In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KFBDcv022292 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I wish more of it were available online. Ah, I see: I found the "Phase II" bible. http://pages.infinit.net/startrk/phase2/guide/ph2guid.html Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:21:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdE006704 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00646BCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 10:03:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1253910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 10:03:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KE3Cq3007661 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 10:03:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1572351nzp for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 07:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.4 with SMTP id n4mr755531nzc; Fri, 20 May 2005 07:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 07:03:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uYcv1nPQBnSg5zidgYQV5MU2fk9N41/oBb8iiT9zpyiFMdadOSS9GmvrY3c2/DPKgBvPACgcOi2pwmKQBMZKJ7i4orAe9gkvU59otZSkQb7Ygpu9XIslyagPVfknK4JGWIwvNwWHIenZmlXjCJnMjXHAZgbZnLhtbj0+0D/rSKI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052007031f1698f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:03:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: what fun In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KE3Dq3007666 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mimeographed! On 5/20/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > We're cleaning up stuff at work - dealing with things that have been > gathering dust in corners for years (the week after commencement and > before summer sessions is a great time to do this kind of work) > One of the things I found is Roddenberry's "Writer-Director > Information" booklet for the original Star Trek series. It is a > mimeographed synopsis of the concepts for the show and the characters. > > > for example; > > Kirk - "...a space-age Captain Horatio Hornblower, contantly on trial > with himself..." > > Spock - "On his own planet, to show emation is considered the grossest > of sins, comparable to a human fornicating at high noon in the town > square," > > McCoy "...something of a future H.L. mencken, a very, very outspoken > character..." > > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:21:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdE006709 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00646DC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:03:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1260698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:03:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KF3Hwu020750 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:03:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1611544nzp for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.4 with SMTP id n4mr782302nzc; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cAX6joNbV08cNR8+qD4dVwhghRlPJ7HMlfVgrz2Bs7+bxwkj0jIojp3syonI+ZgEjg6h8W5WsmIJMYksLH5/OHvKlfruDa6C06lVMFSzmTHn8Dn1NaJMlq2tgDElqEwh0s4qh19iVCdH77l0lQazPz2L8wLE6NoWOOyYEHHzVnA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052008034cc769b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:03:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I want the drugs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KF3Hwu020751 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU that Bill Gates is taking! http://news.com.com/Gates+Information+overload+is+overblown/2100-1022_3-5713665.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:21:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdE006710 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00646EBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:29:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1263683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:29:54 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KFTsDJ026151 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:29:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 20383666 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:48:30 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 20 May 2005 08:30:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:31:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 203, in=71408, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, if they kept it clean and unscratched, what's the problem? What was it in when you gave it to them, if not a case? 5/19/2005, 3:52 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I gave a CD without a case to someone at work who returned it to me in AFoA> an ordinary, not nonstatic, plastic bag. Is this as wrong as I think AFoA> it is? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:21:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdF006708 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00646EC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:31:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1263904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:31:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KFVZpN026532 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:31:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1271623nzo for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.11 with SMTP id s11mr803752nzc; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BvtKZ4k64mqso263ay7nSLZPXBRi7JcobVRze2x21Ymu7cU9p29sQaijDtouXPDzRgUMP8TNFHHeasKPwj9KxQL6XS3bJNFWo67irjGTt93oN3CMKlpupfmXZBVGwBfUgt/1wyE6xmLV+wr/FbOYjVKUhm5MrNhBL4c04/NdqzE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:31:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KFVZpN026533 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/20/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Well, if they kept it clean and unscratched, what's the problem? I'm trying to determine if this is a problem or not. > What was it in when you gave it to them, if not a case? Nothing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:21:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdF006710 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00646FD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:32:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1263946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:32:00 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KFW0uJ026636 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:32:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 20699609 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:04:41 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 20 May 2005 08:32:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:34:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1863792126.20050520093402@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <001201c55cc8$41866af0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <001201c55cc8$41866af0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 199, in=73155, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/19/2005, 5:12 PM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> What things do need an anti-static bag? DM> My wireless card? What else? My wireless card doesn't have an antistatic bag and never did. It came in a plastic box, apparently the same type used for CD/DVD cases. It does go in the case on the rare occasions when it isn't in the laptop. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:21:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdF006704 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00646FEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:37:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1264431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:37:15 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KFbEZ9027686 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:37:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 20581379 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:42:18 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 20 May 2005 08:37:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:39:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1591469941.20050520093917@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Silence of the Ghoul In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050520080044195e11@mail.gmail.com> References: <1315041250.20050520081728@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050520080044195e11@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 203, in=83900, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/20/2005, 9:00 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> On 5/20/05, Dan Lester wrote: >> Is there a lot of difference between >> Natalie and Yogi? AFoA> I didn't realize that Natalie is considered a "Baseball great". Since we were speaking of verbal and written things, that was the context in which I made the comparison. But of course that is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:21:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdE006701 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00646B5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 9:06:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1248608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:06:43 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KD6hC0029279 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:06:43 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-247.gwi.net [216.195.167.247]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4KD6c0o068842; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:06:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050520085413.01beb9c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 08:55:45 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: fotopic In-Reply-To: <428D5D53.7020104@maynor.net> References: <428D5D53.7020104@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:45 PM 5/19/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Re my not liking these picture places -- I have no idea now how to find >my acadiafest pictures. If I had put them in my own space, I would be >able to find them. I just went to fotopic.net and searched but couldn't >find them. I gave up on fotopic after one effort (the pictures from Tuscany---which may still be there, somewhere). I like Webshots. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdG006708 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00647030@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:48:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1265186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:48:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KFmIbX029101 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:48:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1406380nzk for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.6 with SMTP id k6mr806332nzk; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:48:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IA0Rm8ri46zUXZLu9jE/T5TpeyOdn1nfvfrZw//kS1WHZmpIHREsZ0PQeM1TPQyrcEHrxk0MrrRmvTTZFhMQs69sGHv94BK11XN9eVpIV5287xY0K8Nzf9P4/m+OtNmbXGrTSDZ/wF8xoAIYeh5EEY0pMHDstwvEBlKO9tBIFNo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052008483d78443f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:48:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Silence of the Ghoul In-Reply-To: <1591469941.20050520093917@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1315041250.20050520081728@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050520080044195e11@mail.gmail.com> <1591469941.20050520093917@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KFmJbX029102 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/20/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/20/2005, 9:00 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> On 5/20/05, Dan Lester wrote: > >> Is there a lot of difference between > >> Natalie and Yogi? > > AFoA> I didn't realize that Natalie is considered a "Baseball great". > > Since we were speaking of verbal and written things, that was the > context in which I made the comparison. But of course that is > intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. Who likes hitting dead horses with baseball bats. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdG006710 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064725D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:37:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1269796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:37:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KGbLbc004817 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:37:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1671174nzp for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.19 with SMTP id m19mr828099nzm; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:37:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TdcfbpXuO+e8RInLe8CQP6IctmvJQqPuQLVOZGY3DK18xSvl0d3rJH/iKjMopHBDFhJXn+cyDAqZTK/5GU/YYUK62sQ5Ld7lrDRTmv5WR5Sf6RbLNgpexIWkURFcR8/WVHmFJToB+jwzZKeLDmGXmSDNWZGpHkZf7tjlQkwFu8U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505200937150d9c00@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:37:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I want the drugs In-Reply-To: <46227195050520093265614832@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705052008034cc769b8@mail.gmail.com> <46227195050520093265614832@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KGbLbc004818 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/20/05, phil paxton wrote: > On 5/20/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > that Bill Gates is taking! > > > > http://news.com.com/Gates+Information+overload+is+overblown/2100-1022_3-5713665.html > > > > What he is saying is correct but he's probably using the wrong terminology. Ya think?! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdF006701 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064724D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:32:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1269551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:32:56 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KGWts8004077 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:32:55 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1297171wra for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.10 with SMTP id t10mr1246987wrt; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:32:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZMqxd1+pw9PWYgomcuNg/i4X3PORUZ5yvwUA6yyMqaSyqXZjnq8ksHHrEDCfW3tfKE2X0Xi87VV3PmUcw5Wc5vAEdTo2xuuO+SXcxSXZ/x6IIHd3+QHB8/WiRyDMwGEOwyZj1N99Zd5d/PSsEDWWsVlziC8KAX7952cSZ6kfh/c= Message-ID: <46227195050520093265614832@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:32:55 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I want the drugs In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052008034cc769b8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705052008034cc769b8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KGWus8004078 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/20/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > that Bill Gates is taking! > > http://news.com.com/Gates+Information+overload+is+overblown/2100-1022_3-5713665.html > What he is saying is correct but he's probably using the wrong terminology. What's happening in companies is there is a lot of "disconnected (raw) data"[1]. It's coming in from a number of disparate sources and is massaged by hand and...allegedly "automated". People are likely to still use Excel and Access to perform these tasks but they are still manipulating it largely the same way they did five, six, and likely ten years ago. They just use different functions because the functions have been moved around from version-to-version. __________ [1] Right now, we have to rely upon humans to perform a lot of searches because of language differences...even within the same language. Look at English: just by people for whom English is their first language. There are so many phoneticized(?) and misspelled words searching becomes laborious unless you anticipate some of the more common differences. Add to that for all of the people who are using pidgin English in the best way possible to communicate. Couple that with reliable interpretations of the other languages. Validating the quality of data is essentially a real-world CAPTCHA. __________ The investment in these practices is *staggering*. People don't see a need to document it because they know how to do what they are doing - and not only don't know how to appropriately write documentation, the time investment cannot be justified. No one thinks about the "Timmy got hit by a bus" factor. (I can't believe how many businesses think they're going to call Timmy on vacation if something hits the fan) If Timmy is on vacation, personal leave for a funeral, or some other reason to be away from work it should be the same as though he got hit by a bus last night - or quit yesterday. You're on your own. The time investment to automate everything is even more difficult to justify because not only does it take time to write & test it, the process already works....and most of the people who know the process can't write the various macros required or they'd have done so already. Or, there are pseudo-macros written but the names aren't definitive enough to know what should be executed in a particular order: naturally, they will want to sort by alphabetical order: ConvertDataToQuarters FixQuotations ImportInfoFromCafeteria Instead of Step01-ImportFromCafeteria Step02-FixQuotationMarks Step03-ConvertDataToQuarterlyTotals although most people do it this way: Step02-FixQuotationMarks Step03-ConvertDataToQuarterlyTotals Step1-ImportFromBathroom which means the "1" will sort to the bottom. Most people aren't very rigid about that type of thing but I generally get lazy[2] and would like them in order. __________ [2] Periodically in interviews I've asked someone, "How lazy are you?" "I work very hard - no problem here." Wrong answer. "I'll invest even extra|personal time to make something work so all I have to do is click the button and I can sit back and watch it work without intervention from me. __________ You want to see panic? Watch someone who has been hired to fill a position by a data "massager" and can make neither heads nor tails out of the process and a "mandatory" report|graph of some type is required. That's when the manager (or other person) starts making comments under their breath ("I wish Sheila was still here", "I wish we'd documented this", "I wish we'd automated this", "I wish|wonder if someone in IT can figure this out", "I wish...", "I wish...") ready to sell their soul. "Hi, this is George in Auditing. We've got a problem. Sheila left yesterday and we can make neither heads nor tails out of the process she used to get some reports and graphs which are required by the DEA. Can you possibly help us?" "When is it due?" "Forty-five minutes." Too late for a C&C warning but you hit the [mute] button so everyone within earshot can get a good laugh before cleaning up. In terms of online information, I have a challenge which I've never issued but I've kept in my idea journal: "Find something (a question) which nine of the first ten people you ask (at random, on the street) will know the answer to but you can't find it on the Internet." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdH006708 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006476AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 15:40:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1284556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 15:40:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KJe8P2005269 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 15:40:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1092883nzf for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.57.20 with SMTP id f20mr986053nza; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f/kHXEKsA2HoFCJV0gZNRRxZfgMT0hLGZXZeRrBTZGZS9IiHu7Yh2Y9oVczN5Ig4l2sNcTu0e+kkizSG1JVa5JwRyIKm8cCdXntuhZ1iVQSWYlQAFo9ikZZ/XsHi57JfeBHLvFdxO6u2qdtX7lMY0lbLeaXBlVf2EMc5KLN5W8Y= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:40:08 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: what fun In-Reply-To: <20050520183145.GA5998@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050520183145.GA5998@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KJe9P2005274 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > de gustibus And a rooty-tooty-son-gout to you too! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdG006709 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00647472@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 14:41:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1278389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 14:41:47 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4KIVk6n024910 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 14:31:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 7626 invoked by uid 1003); 20 May 2005 18:31:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:31:45 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: what fun Message-ID: <20050520183145.GA5998@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 11:07:49AM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > One of the things I found is Roddenberry's "Writer-Director > > Information" booklet for the original Star Trek series. It is a > > mimeographed synopsis of the concepts for the show and the characters. > > I wish more of it were available online. de gustibus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdG006704 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006470C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:41:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1270144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:41:17 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KGfHDM005783 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:41:17 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005052016411601300pgaj0e>; Fri, 20 May 2005 16:41:17 +0000 Message-ID: <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:41:16 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU CDs are pretty inert, and static electricity doesn't affect them. (Although you can get a pretty light show by putting one in a microwave oven. Do not attempt at home: it will damage your CD and your oven, at least.) Scratches are bad for CDs, on both sides. It turns out that the top side is more vulnerable than you'd think; the bits are saved in a thin metal film that sits on top of the polycarbonate disc, and the metal layer is protected only by a thin layer of lacquer over it. So scratching the top can actually be worse than scratching the bottom. Don't bend or flex CDs; that may crack the delicate lacquer or the metal layer and cause serious problems. Scratches on the bottom affect how well the laser can see the metal. Small scratches aren't a big deal -- the laser focuses right through them. Side-to-side scratches that do interfere with the laser can still be handled by error correction. Circumferential scratches are bad, because they can disrupt the data for longer than the error correction can handle. Therefore, if you do wipe a CD, wipe from the center out (or side in), and *never* spin it to wipe it. However, it's always better to float dust or dirt off the CD instead of wiping it against the surface, so use a blast of air or water if you can, instead of a soft cloth. On really dirty or smudged discs, I use dishwashing detergent and water, and pat dry with a cotton cloth. Paper is more abrasive than cloth; avoid tissues, paper towels and even lens paper. The polycarbonate plastic can be affected by water; in general, keep discs dry. Solvents can also affect the plastic; don't use chemical cleaners or felt pens that aren't meant for CDs. Heat and ultraviolet light is bad for recordable CDs; keep them out of the sun. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdH006710 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064760A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 16:28:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1288557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 16:28:38 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KKSbV0013273 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 16:28:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 20734830 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 14:01:23 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 20 May 2005 13:28:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:28:36 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <386835232.20050520142836@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: cd and dvd preservation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 199, in=73318, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/carefordisc/onepage.pdf above is the one page summary below is the fifty page details, analysis, etc. http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/carefordisc/CDandDVDCareandHandlingGuide.pdf Ran across these in course of some regular work here at library today, and thought they might be of interest. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:21:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdF006709 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006470AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:39:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1264634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:39:06 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KFd6nw028004 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:39:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 20639885 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:39:28 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 20 May 2005 08:39:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:41:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 201, in=70124, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/20/2005, 9:31 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Well, if they kept it clean and unscratched, what's the problem? AFoA> I'm trying to determine if this is a problem or not. As has been noted by others, static electricity is not an issue with a solid device that has no chips. Static electricity will not affect the dots burned into the metal inside the disk. >> What was it in when you gave it to them, if not a case? AFoA> Nothing. Well, then what kept it from getting static electricity then? dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdH006704 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00647B06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:45:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1299113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:45:20 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KMjKmZ030830 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:45:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005052022451901100osa19e>; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:45:19 +0000 Message-ID: <428E687F.7050509@istori.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:45:19 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: IMFATL: Grad Gifting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How much would you spend to buy a gift for a niece graduating from high school? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdI006710 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00647C0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:56:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1299902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:56:29 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KMuScA031760 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:56:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 20431588 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 16:15:08 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 20 May 2005 15:56:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:56:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <675362992.20050520165627@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFATL: Grad Gifting In-Reply-To: <428E687F.7050509@istori.com> References: <428E687F.7050509@istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 203, in=71645, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/20/2005, 4:45 PM, Peter Kaminski wrote: PK> How much would you spend to buy a gift for a niece graduating from high PK> school? If I weren't close to her, I'd do a gift card at an appropriate book/record place...or other place you know she'd appreciate. 20-25 bucks. If it were someone I was close to, knew well, etc, I'd go fifty, either same thing, or else a real gift if I knew what she'd want. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdG006701 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00647A82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1297070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:21:32 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4KMBV97027300 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:11:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 36502 invoked by uid 1003); 20 May 2005 22:11:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:11:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: evil neologism of the day Message-ID: <20050520221130.GA33871@words-l.org> References: <1799767149.20050520134427@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1799767149.20050520134427@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 01:44:27PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Well, we're all undoubtedly familiar with ecommerce or e-commerce. > > But now they're using 'emmerce' in at least one professional journal > (Searcher, the magazine for database professionals). > > No, not sure how to pronounce it, or if anyone has ever tried. Ignore those assholes. Here are a few for you. Keep the faith ... fmail: Mail fcommerce: Commerce fzine: Magazine fretail: Retail No points for guessing what the f is for ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdI006708 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00647B2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:49:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1299483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:49:08 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KMn7Rb031200 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:49:07 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.129]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050520224908.EYYV2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:49:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.129]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050520224907.YZKK11146.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:49:07 -0400 Message-ID: <428E695F.2020206@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:49:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Silence of the Ghoul References: <1315041250.20050520081728@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050520080044195e11@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050520080044195e11@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I didn't realize that Natalie is considered a "Baseball great". > > I was pretty good in early childhood when we played baseball constantly in my front yard. It took years for our baseline paths to disappear. When I played sorority intramural softball in college, I was just ok but not great. And when I played (very briefly) church-league softball in my thirties, I was terrible. Softball never felt the same as hardball. I was better at hardball. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdI006704 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00647A86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:05:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1300491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:05:51 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KN5opW032601 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:05:50 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.129]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050520230550.NNZB2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:05:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.129]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050520230549.NNIX8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:05:49 -0400 Message-ID: <428E6D4A.3030902@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 18:05:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFATL: Grad Gifting References: <428E687F.7050509@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <428E687F.7050509@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > How much would you spend to buy a gift for a niece graduating from high > school? That's a hard question to answer. It would depend on how well I knew the niece, what my financial condition was, etc. I have no memory now of what I gave my niece for hs graduation (or my nephew ten years later). Probably back then I spent around $25. If it were now, I'd probably spend $50-$100. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdH006709 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00647BAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:44:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1299011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:44:03 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KMi2X3030717 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:44:03 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.129]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050520224403.EWBA2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:44:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.129]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050520224402.YXXX11146.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:44:02 -0400 Message-ID: <428E682E.5050404@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:43:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: fotopic References: <428D5D53.7020104@maynor.net> <44dce1c105052005471223e35e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44dce1c105052005471223e35e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >http://maynor.fotopic.net/ > > Thanks! It was fun looking at those pictures again. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:22:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNLLdI006709 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:22:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00647B62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:57:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1299997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:57:51 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KMvoT9031877 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:57:51 -0400 Received: from D5MNK821 (c-67-188-190-150.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.188.190.150]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050520225750012009vedve>; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:57:50 +0000 Reply-To: From: "sandra" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: CDs and plastic bags Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:57:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I often rinse (with a drop or two of liquid dish detergent)DVDs that arrive from Netflix. One of my DVD players seems very sensitive to the teeniest of bits of dirt. A quick rinse and wiping from the inside out with a dish towel always fixes the problem. Sandra > -----Original Message----- > Peter Kaminski > Scratches on the bottom affect how well the laser can see the metal. > Small scratches aren't a big deal -- the laser focuses right through > them. Side-to-side scratches that do interfere with the laser can still > be handled by error correction. Circumferential scratches are bad, > because they can disrupt the data for longer than the error correction > can handle. Therefore, if you do wipe a CD, wipe from the center out > (or side in), and *never* spin it to wipe it. > > However, it's always better to float dust or dirt off the CD instead of > wiping it against the surface, so use a blast of air or water if you > can, instead of a soft cloth. On really dirty or smudged discs, I use > dishwashing detergent and water, and pat dry with a cotton cloth. Paper > is more abrasive than cloth; avoid tissues, paper towels and even lens > paper. > > The polycarbonate plastic can be affected by water; in general, keep > discs dry. Solvents can also affect the plastic; don't use chemical > cleaners or felt pens that aren't meant for CDs. > > Heat and ultraviolet light is bad for recordable CDs; keep them out of > the sun. > > Pete > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:33:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNWsdE008582 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F77943@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 9:55:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1252789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:55:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KDtEPH005474 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:55:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so966119nzf for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 06:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.75.4 with SMTP id x4mr818046nza; Fri, 20 May 2005 06:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 06:55:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BfV3DttiCOq8atJQujWX6QPgIWVQhKNuO7v/m9a3Xa35+XiFKHgorL1PFJZWW92qeGozqAlnx99LqeJIdiyW5TbD0YEsVqxUWGcWF9PmeJdbk22EX1YlncxO7I5MN4dQBva5g/D91yLvE9WrNVwo1KT2ihdmnvV8Cgwgna1nMAM= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:55:13 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Ben In-Reply-To: <428DD952.1050503@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428DD952.1050503@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KDtEPH005475 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On probation with SACS? Bleah. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:33:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNWsdE008590 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F77C8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:08:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1261048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:08:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KF7nxD021590 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:07:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so995628nzf for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.24.7 with SMTP id 7mr864789nzx; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:07:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qxwKwx+sim92NiZQc6wZG1UUNWyImr9uKf9XxIZ6L1oACcDBzAMzMfcfoDtHXmowOkOIWpXn/kR5FHAyrAdsxqWeH8YMuBIz37vsaY6qSkuk64xygnp0IIACK3lnG5DxPxPoDXMNMs6G0wyRyf4DAhnZ0/LtGOtZNjzgk14QkNY= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:07:49 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: what fun In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KF7oxD021593 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > One of the things I found is Roddenberry's "Writer-Director > Information" booklet for the original Star Trek series. It is a > mimeographed synopsis of the concepts for the show and the characters. I wish more of it were available online. There seems to be one page here: http://pages.infinit.net/nuitari/garth/phase2/guide/jtkirk.html but I haven't found any more. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:33:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNWsdE008587 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F77A4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 10:15:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1255166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 10:15:27 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KEFQ3R010007 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 10:15:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 20688171 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 07:48:07 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 20 May 2005 07:15:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 08:17:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1315041250.20050520081728@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Silence of the Ghoul In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 199, in=73096, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/18/2005, 5:57 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> Isn't this a quote from Yogi Berra? Probably not, but should be. Is there a lot of difference between Natalie and Yogi? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:33:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNWsdE008589 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F77C84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:00:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1260422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:00:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KF0OHY020255 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:00:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1379175nzk for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.6 with SMTP id k6mr783013nzk; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:00:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Vm1sZ4hALlbVm9HGQ66VonVZPro1ikvXz7grhge+dusJjR0Ku91PE2TED50hZHMAJiEmcsGi/Ydy1CSobI+CV1y0442LirBWrtx/qxz+pfKnGb8ZwOcwbLyrqm7OoN2FdQFZ0cxVitN7bRUMp448flZ6N8NdziL7HgwTXBYLIxg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050520080044195e11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:00:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Silence of the Ghoul In-Reply-To: <1315041250.20050520081728@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1315041250.20050520081728@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KF0OHY020262 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/20/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Is there a lot of difference between > Natalie and Yogi? I didn't realize that Natalie is considered a "Baseball great". Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:33:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNWsdF008590 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F78857@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 15:44:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1285171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 15:44:31 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KJiUIe006707 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 15:44:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 20729969 for multiple; Fri, 20 May 2005 13:17:13 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 20 May 2005 12:44:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:44:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1799767149.20050520134427@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: evil neologism of the day MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 199, in=73294, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, we're all undoubtedly familiar with ecommerce or e-commerce. But now they're using 'emmerce' in at least one professional journal (Searcher, the magazine for database professionals). No, not sure how to pronounce it, or if anyone has ever tried. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:33:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNWsdF008589 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F77E92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:41:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1264846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:41:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KFfrgV028392 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:41:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so1104262nzn for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.157.11 with SMTP id f11mr887283nze; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.3 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 08:41:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=S//11c1FR6IZtpStUjCyTthDPPxYmGq7cK2yyxjisqMl7hA/FrlRe3I3n6F8gjkgSg0syYFw36ekQURWkbH81eV8dLBNVLvUdhGFPtXXKWJox64pDdFlgA5n33clm86FLD6CLAXVO1qgTRADRVt33a/D9M9vdK/GvAktq/sk2VU= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:41:53 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: what fun In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KFfsgV028394 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > but it looks so much better mimeographed "GENERAL ORDER NUMBER ONE The only Starfleet Order that concerns us in most stories is a wise but often troublesome rule which prohibits Starship interference with the normal development of alien life and alien societies. It can be disregarded when absolutely vital to the interests of the entire Earth Federation, but the Captain who does violate it had better be ready to present a sound defense of his actions." Or, as is attributed to Kirk, "I prefer to think of it as the Prime ." Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:33:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNWsdF008585 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7883E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 15:48:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1285602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 15:48:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KJmr3U007455 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 15:48:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1367997wra for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.83.5 with SMTP id g5mr1326854wrb; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 12:48:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gM21thVznNfNFsXwPxWWtC9p3OuxWjTP4y1d+GRKT9CLzHinMiCUFcAXnY0Vd3vr2tdeEEz8ddqqbO/xsCg3RLXt1WkxAoVrToA0/dcEMxqtUe7UMGYp4VJpFpkcfzy0vKVtxloNbd5BLbGdfbD2KaRLWugUx+iebn3FJhD8SYs= Message-ID: <4622719505052012487bae6273@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:48:53 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I want the drugs In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505200937150d9c00@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705052008034cc769b8@mail.gmail.com> <46227195050520093265614832@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505200937150d9c00@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4KJmr3U007456 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/20/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/20/05, phil paxton wrote: > > On 5/20/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > that Bill Gates is taking! > > > > > > http://news.com.com/Gates+Information+overload+is+overblown/2100-1022_3-5713665.html > > > > > > > What he is saying is correct but he's probably using the wrong terminology. > > Ya think?! Well, now that he's not as rich as he's been in the past, he's a bit preoccupied trying to figure out how to make it up. Another couple of years and Warren may surpass him - providing old age doesn't catch up with Warren. Considering what he's done with the company since he bought it, who would have imagined taking Berkshire Hathaway, a struggling textile factory and turned it into the powerhouse it is today? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:33:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNWsdG008582 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F78992@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 16:14:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1287707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 16:14:06 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KKE6Oa011587 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 16:14:06 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 20 May 2005 16:14:05 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:13:50 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Canadian politics update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What drama!!! - Paul Martin's minority government hangs by a thread. Plagued by scandal and with a fragile case-by-case coalition the only thing keeping it together, the New Democrats demand major concessions on the budget and get them. - Stephen Harper, Tory leader, smells blood and vows to bring down the government. As a show of strength, he forces early adjournment of business for several days until Martin agrees to a confidence vote on the budget. -After lots of name calling and accusations that the Liberals are delaying the vote until an ill Tory dies, the Grits agree to have one of their MPs sit out the vote. -48 hours before the vote, a prominent Tory announces that she is switching parties, and is promptly rewarded with a major cabinet post by the PM. Her boyfriend, the assistant Tory leader is the last to find out. - The vote comes and everybody is doing the numbers. 153 votes are needed to win and everyone is accounted for except one - the vote of the former Tory, now independent MP from Surrey North Riding in BC. A former rock musicisn who entered politics after his teenage son was killed in a random shooting, the critical vote has traveled to Ottawa fresh from the latest round of chemo and isnt telling. -When the moment arrives, he votes with the government. The Liberal MPs chant his name. The vote is tied at 152. The Speaker casts the tie-breaker - the first time ever on a confidence vote. Paul Martin survives. This is every bit as good as made-for-tv, reality programming ! BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:33:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNWsdE008585 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F77933@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 9:55:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1252811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:55:45 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KDtitx005541 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:55:44 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 20 May 2005 09:55:44 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:55:22 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: what fun Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We're cleaning up stuff at work - dealing with things that have been gathering dust in corners for years (the week after commencement and before summer sessions is a great time to do this kind of work) One of the things I found is Roddenberry's "Writer-Director Information" booklet for the original Star Trek series. It is a mimeographed synopsis of the concepts for the show and the characters. for example; Kirk - "...a space-age Captain Horatio Hornblower, contantly on trial with himself..." Spock - "On his own planet, to show emation is considered the grossest of sins, comparable to a human fornicating at high noon in the town square," McCoy "...something of a future H.L. mencken, a very, very outspoken character..." BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:33:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNWsdF008582 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:33:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F77DF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:24:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1263114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:24:15 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KFOFrN024916 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:24:15 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:24:15 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:23:51 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: what fun Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cool that's it but it looks so much better mimeographed BrP >>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 5/20/2005 11:11:12 AM >>> > I wish more of it were available online. Ah, I see: I found the "Phase II" bible. http://pages.infinit.net/startrk/phase2/guide/ph2guid.html Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:43:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNhHdE009894 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:43:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:43:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00647BCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:23:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1301102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:23:16 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KNNERf001419 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:23:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F78FB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:23:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200505202323.j4KNNERf001419@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 19:23:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: just checking in To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks to all for support over the week. Mom went home today, and it appears that she'll do fine. What a week! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 18:43:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4KNhHdE009896 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:43:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 18:43:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00647B25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:40:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1301973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:40:03 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4KNe23o002617 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:40:02 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 105730212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 16:39:59 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050520164020.02e97eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:40:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: just checking in In-Reply-To: <200505202323.j4KNNERf001419@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505202323.j4KNNERf001419@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:23 PM 5/20/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Thanks to all for support over the week. Mom went home today, >and it appears that she'll do fine. >What a week! >clo Indeed. How many stents? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 20:22:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4L1MhdE024764 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 20:22:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 20:22:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00647F6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:22:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1308183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:22:43 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4L1Md5x011599 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:22:39 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F79326@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:22:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200505210122.j4L1Md5x011599@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 21:22:38 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Sunburst Squash To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ... a new vegetable variety for me. They're tasty ... and so cute! Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 21:39:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4L2dbdE002435 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:39:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:39:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00647F7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:39:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1312880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:39:37 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4L2danU017570 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:39:37 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id ED94BBE8C4; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DC0C2849 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 19:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 19:39:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sunburst Squash In-Reply-To: <200505210122.j4L1Md5x011599@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 20 May 2005, Mrs. Williams wrote: > ... a new vegetable variety for me. > They're tasty ... and so cute! Just like lamb! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 21:54:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4L2sbdE004405 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:54:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:54:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006480D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:54:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1313666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:54:37 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4L2sbdR018610 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:54:37 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.173]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050521025437.OCQZ7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:54:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.173]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050521025436.XEIU25991.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:54:36 -0400 Message-ID: <428EA2E9.1090709@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 21:54:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Funny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was just googling for some genealogy stuff and accidentally stumbled upon this from the Washington Post: ********** Czech the Lobbyist's Credentials ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The White House last week dispatched a delegation, headed by Veterans Affairs Secretary Jim Nicholson , to the Czech Republic for an important WWII anniversary event. The delegation included the usual suspects -- the current and former U.S. ambassadors and a retired Army major general. The fifth member was Linda Maynor , a lobbyist from Huntsville, Ala. So what's the Czech connection here? Truly a silly question, according to her bio. "Linda is the finance chairman for the Alabama Republican Party," we read, and since 1985 has raised "millions" for Republicans, including more than $350,000 for Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour . A Bush "Ranger," Maynor has "raised millions more" on Senate and presidential campaigns, including more than $300,000 last time around for President Bush . Ah, the check connection. *********** from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/08/AR2005050800802.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 21:57:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4L2vndE004838 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:57:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:57:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006480F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:57:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1313925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:57:49 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4L2vmpp018824 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:57:48 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.173]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050521025748.ODSP7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:57:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.173]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050521025748.XESL25991.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:57:48 -0400 Message-ID: <428EA3A9.3010401@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 21:57:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny References: <428EA2E9.1090709@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <428EA2E9.1090709@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor quoted: > A Bush "Ranger," Maynor has "raised That is an error. She's a "Super Ranger," not a mere "Ranger." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 22:11:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4L3AsdE006912 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:10:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 22:11:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F79622@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:00:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1315033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:00:52 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4L30ptm019439 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:00:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7966C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:00:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200505210300.j4L30ptm019439@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:00:50 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Sunburst Squash To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 20 May 2005 19:39:33 -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Fri, 20 May 2005, Mrs. Williams wrote: >> ... a new vegetable variety for me. >> They're tasty ... and so cute! > >Just like lamb! > >Ann Yes -- I read that they're even good very rare! C. Starling From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 20 23:41:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4L4fmdE019929 for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:41:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 23:41:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006488E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 0:41:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1328619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 00:41:47 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4L4fkrH028324 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 00:41:46 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so71019wri for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.79.16 with SMTP id c16mr2317643wrb; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 21:41:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MqVzoBTdh2oufWt1RIqaVQB7zpFoqJBkFisL55kTwvFdPpPadRJmNiP8g9AqzBCSBNaKsdEOc/0rEZPO1EpNeXsHAGPBpdtVbVk8hKFzWx3cMJFPUhlho1oOzvOkWqn/yVdrEC2bT+TqnSkZEzwvzQL4obRSG+hwzxhIWkGypaY= Message-ID: <46227195050520214160e43088@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:41:46 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cd and dvd preservation In-Reply-To: <386835232.20050520142836@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <386835232.20050520142836@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4L4fkrH028325 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/20/05, Dan Lester wrote: > http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/carefordisc/onepage.pdf > > above is the one page summary > below is the fifty page details, analysis, etc. > > http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/carefordisc/CDandDVDCareandHandlingGuide.pdf > > Ran across these in course of some regular work here at library today, > and thought they might be of interest. Seeing the dos and don'ts reminds me of something: there's at least one disc burner on the market which has an unusual feature. After you've finished burning your disc, you can flip it over and the burner will burn your desired text onto the topside which would normally have handwriting with a Sharpie. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 04:44:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4L9ikdE032038 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 04:44:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 04:44:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00648CC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 5:34:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1342465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 05:34:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4L9Yj4q015688 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 05:34:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1209381nzf for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 02:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.2 with SMTP id n2mr1119254nza; Sat, 21 May 2005 02:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.5.8 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 02:34:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=eY2VcF6CaYRUXzRxwWtxnh4svZGPK2UoORlGCyhMKKZa0u/+QaEY/pTDmiPp4wbj8T299fWSgSxVIYmA/yJCHxRdOKNmWHVKB6RDKa38zRYWK1DGmu2lBPPP3mPas+73Rb7u0xMVgvlLryZV9FMupvHwazQC05/w40gZx/FpPdg= Message-ID: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 11:34:45 +0200 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Halfway to a Classics MA! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4L9Yj4q015689 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The results from this semester's exams came yesterday: one B and one C, and I have still managed to do 2/3 fulltime study besides my 1/1 fulltime job. If I manage to keep up this speed I will have done it by the end of 2006. But the thesis (which accounts for 1/4 of the whole thing) is the most important part of it for me, since it will (I hope) prove that I can do serious papyroloical work in the future. So if I feel I need it, I will let it go over one semester more, to have finished by the summer of 2007. I will then still be ahead of my officially planned progress of 1/2 of fulltime studies. No boat trip today, too muc rain. And tomorrow I will feed the religious masses at the Vesak celebration, we guess at something between 80 and 100 participants - I have baked the loaves, and since this will be a vegetarian feast, I will not bring fishes but make a (more or less) Greek fasolada. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 06:08:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LB88dE009208 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 06:08:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 06:08:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7A59E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 7:08:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1300304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:07:47 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LB7ljJ013481 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:07:47 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.157]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050521110747.KBIL2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:07:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.157]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050521110746.FPNL9550.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:07:46 -0400 Message-ID: <428F167F.5090003@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 06:07:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Halfway to a Classics MA! References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: >fulltime job. If I manage to keep up this speed I will have done it by >the end of 2006. But the thesis (which accounts for 1/4 of the whole >thing) is the most important part of it for me, since it will (I hope) >prove that I can do serious papyroloical work in the future. So if I > > Do you plan to the degree officially? By that I mean will having the piece of paper result in a change in your professional life? I assume that you will use the knowledge/skills in any case. >No boat trip today, too muc rain. And tomorrow I will feed the >religious masses at the Vesak celebration, we guess at something >between 80 and 100 participants - I have baked the loaves, and since >this will be a vegetarian feast, I will not bring fishes but make a >(more or less) Greek fasolada. > > Happy Vesak Day! Are you in charge of feeding the whole bunch? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 06:50:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LBo5dE015025 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 06:50:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 06:50:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7A67E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 7:50:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1302223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:50:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LBo5p6017265 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:50:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-6.gwi.net [216.195.165.6]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4LBo10o096191; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:50:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050521074129.01bd6f78@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 07:49:36 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Halfway to a Classics MA! In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:34 AM 5/21/2005, Espen Ore wrote: >The results from this semester's exams came yesterday: one B and one >C, and I have still managed to do 2/3 fulltime study besides my 1/1 >fulltime job. If I manage to keep up this speed I will have done it by >the end of 2006... Great! Hang in there. >No boat trip today, too much rain. We had a full day (yesterday) without rain. It's supposed to start in again later today, then rain almost every day next week. There's something about our scheduling a major outside job by Mainely Vinyl that brings out the bad weather. When we had the place re-roofed, the big ice storm hit. Now that we are having a new deck built, a new garage door installed, and the place sided, it's been rain and showers (and a little hail, for good measure). The deck is done, the garage door is in. The driveway is blocked by this large dumpster, which is filled with the debris from the old deck and garage door. The car has been and is parked on Forest St. Yesterday would have been a great day to begin the siding job, but alas. At least, it is quieter. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 08:37:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LDawdE029497 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 08:36:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 08:37:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7A918@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 9:36:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1307579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:36:58 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LDaw8C026473 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:36:58 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7A917@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 9:36:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200505211336.j4LDaw8C026473@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 09:36:57 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: just checking in To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 20 May 2005 16:40:53 -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: >At 04:23 PM 5/20/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Thanks to all for support over the week. Mom went home today, >>and it appears that she'll do fine. >>What a week! >>clo > >Indeed. How many stents? > >Betty Two. One artery blocked 90%, one 95%. And she'll go back in 7-8 weeks for work on her right leg - am I right in assuming they'll do essentially the same procedure? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 08:40:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LDe7dE029970 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 08:40:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 08:40:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7A941@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 9:40:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1308494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:40:06 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LDe6lg027041 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:40:06 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00649384@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 9:40:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200505211340.j4LDe6lg027041@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 09:39:57 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Halfway to a Classics MA! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 21 May 2005 11:34:45 +0200, Espen Ore wrote: >The results from this semester's exams came yesterday: one B and one >C, and I have still managed to do 2/3 fulltime study besides my 1/1 >fulltime job. If I manage to keep up this speed I will have done it by >the end of 2006. But the thesis (which accounts for 1/4 of the whole >thing) is the most important part of it for me, since it will (I hope) >prove that I can do serious papyroloical work in the future. So if I >feel I need it, I will let it go over one semester more, to have >finished by the summer of 2007. I will then still be ahead of my >officially planned progress of 1/2 of fulltime studies. > >No boat trip today, too muc rain. And tomorrow I will feed the >religious masses at the Vesak celebration, we guess at something >between 80 and 100 participants - I have baked the loaves, and since >this will be a vegetarian feast, I will not bring fishes but make a >(more or less) Greek fasolada. > >Espen Congrats. This is quite a feat! I have dropped back to taking one course a semester, and one in the summer. I don't think I'd live through two while working full time - at least at this job! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 09:21:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LELQdE002571 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:21:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:21:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7A9D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 10:01:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1309216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 10:01:25 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LE1OXq028625; Sat, 21 May 2005 10:01:25 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 62336338; Sat, 21 May 2005 07:01:23 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050521065940.0272a010@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 07:02:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: just checking in In-Reply-To: <200505211336.j4LDaw8C026473@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505211336.j4LDaw8C026473@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:36 AM 5/21/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Fri, 20 May 2005 16:40:53 -0700, Betty F Clark >wrote: > > >At 04:23 PM 5/20/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>Thanks to all for support over the week. Mom went home today, > >>and it appears that she'll do fine. > >>What a week! > >>clo > > > >Indeed. How many stents? > > > >Betty > >Two. One artery blocked 90%, one 95%. >And she'll go back in 7-8 weeks for work on her right leg - >am I right in assuming they'll do essentially the same procedure? >clo Oh, I don't know. They did Larry's close together. Amazing stuff. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 11:16:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LGG4dE017017 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 11:16:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 11:16:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006493C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:16:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1314219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:16:04 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LGG33a007010 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:16:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 20469247 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:34:50 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 21 May 2005 09:16:24 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 10:16:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1321438048.20050521101610@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny In-Reply-To: <428EA2E9.1090709@maynor.net> References: <428EA2E9.1090709@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 204, in=71745, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Isn't Czech Republic also one of the places to which she hopes to be named Ambassador? 5/20/2005, 8:54 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I was just googling for some genealogy stuff and accidentally stumbled NM> upon this from the Washington Post: From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 11:17:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LGHGdE017190 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 11:17:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 11:17:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7AC39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:17:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1314272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:17:16 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LGHFHx007129 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:17:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 20469296 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:36:02 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.85.12]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 21 May 2005 09:17:37 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 10:17:23 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1286178650.20050521101723@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: cd and dvd preservation In-Reply-To: <46227195050520214160e43088@mail.gmail.com> References: <386835232.20050520142836@gailndan.com> <46227195050520214160e43088@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 204, in=71747, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/20/2005, 10:41 PM, phil paxton wrote: pp> Seeing the dos and don'ts reminds me of something: there's at least pp> one disc burner on the market which has an unusual feature. After pp> you've finished burning your disc, you can flip it over and the burner pp> will burn your desired text onto the topside which would normally have pp> handwriting with a Sharpie. There's also one that does it with inkjet printing on the topside. So far I do fine with markers for nonpermanent things, and Stomper labels for things that are more permanent. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 11:29:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LGTfdE018662 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 11:29:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 11:29:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7AC03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:19:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1314320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:19:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LGJdNT007275 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 12:19:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1331898nzp for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.23.7 with SMTP id 7mr756nzw; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.4.11 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 09:19:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MCUae+dNEobPCjAo8Wx6tp3GvhJsQo1JXgjKehf3vupZdNcy2QJCwl2mq5j8tPuWTvGLM3el7mHp8z/Z0JB/Ahta/lDRCdcMl2v7GQJoOtvMIa5PR9Lj+wEwvJQe3Ka+TXXWS31UqmgfQ9a3mQswa9JrTXBxA797vIoPW98fx5M= Message-ID: <3c1d5b5005052109195c79833c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 18:19:39 +0200 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Halfway to a Classics MA! In-Reply-To: <428F167F.5090003@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <428F167F.5090003@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4LGJeNT007276 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/21/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Espen Ore wrote: > > >fulltime job. If I manage to keep up this speed I will have done it by > >the end of 2006. But the thesis (which accounts for 1/4 of the whole > >thing) is the most important part of it for me, since it will (I hope) > >prove that I can do serious papyroloical work in the future. So if I > > > > > Do you plan to the degree officially? By that I mean will having > the piece of paper result in a change in your professional life? I > assume that you will use the knowledge/skills in any case. I hope at least to use it in the meaning that I can publish first editions of so far unpublished papyri from the Oslo-collection. But this is not necessarily linked with a change of work. I have also started to enjoy translation, so if I find some texts I would like to translate and where there are outlets for such texts through a Norwegian publishing firm, I would like to try that. > > >No boat trip today, too muc rain. And tomorrow I will feed the > >religious masses at the Vesak celebration, we guess at something > >between 80 and 100 participants - I have baked the loaves, and since > >this will be a vegetarian feast, I will not bring fishes but make a > >(more or less) Greek fasolada. > > > > > Happy Vesak Day! Are you in charge of feeding the whole bunch? Not alone: we are two main partners in crime here with some assistance from others. But now I have to fill some buckets with 5 kilograms of white beans so they can soak overnight. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 13:10:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LIATdE001650 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:10:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:10:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7ACF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:50:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1316385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:50:27 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LHoRou013875 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:50:27 -0400 Received: from [151.203.30.72] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 99048647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:50:52 -0400 Message-ID: <428F74DE.7010500@bc.edu> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 13:50:22 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just checking in References: <200505211336.j4LDaw8C026473@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505211336.j4LDaw8C026473@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Two. One artery blocked 90%, one 95%. > And she'll go back in 7-8 weeks for work on her right leg - > am I right in assuming they'll do essentially the same procedure? > clo I think so. Although it was several years ago and they were done in reverse order (leg first then arteries) when my mother went through this, the "mechanics" were pretty much the same. She had them done within days of each other. The leg stent was put in on a Friday and she was up and walking on Sunday morning. I hope that your mother's experience is as good or better. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 13:15:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LIEtdE002050 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:14:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:15:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7AD65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 14:14:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1316725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 14:14:55 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LI4t3O014868 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 14:04:55 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4LI4cIo021880 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 21 May 2005 14:04:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 14:04:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: La Rambla Day Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am staying near the port. About noon, I took a bus up to Placa de Catalunya, wandered about a bit there for a while, then made my way through the very entertaining throngs of visitors on La Rambla - natives, con men, human statues, musicians, artists, artistes, bird-sellers, etc. - to go to the Catedral, where I spent a couple of hours - I rode to the roof for a great view of the city, then concluded my visit by conversing with the 13 geese who live in the cloister area. I contemplated walking back to my hotel, but decided that 4 or so hours of walking/standing were enough. I walked a few more blocks, then engaged a taxi. They are relatively inexpensive here. (They are not required to change a bill larger than 20 Euros.) Some 2004 photos are at: http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/tt/5d54b/ I cannot find a website (quickly) that does the statues justice. Perhaps my snapshots will be better, though I did not get a shot of the silver Elvis. Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LKS8dE016915 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 15:28:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 15:28:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006496BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:28:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1320761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:28:08 -0400 Received: from web60719.mail.yahoo.com (web60719.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4LKS8wA025342 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:28:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 80360 invoked by uid 60001); 21 May 2005 20:28:02 -0000 Received: from [24.196.16.187] by web60719.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:28:02 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=KAk5CC98d1HehLzrCWWyUuiYBETCkkVWIdSl+KzRzPjfp9s4VJhiKqHTmvRifeSjn3XoXKr0TauCT9wBwDHgAQXej/rIbdRQnagiQ88npjEnKieh95ojJiQf2ZMt9CEyRC+OZk4sgqkBPWIFtEx3v2gRPW85HrggZ7ZXr8nVIn8= ; Message-ID: <20050521202802.80358.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 13:28:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: IMFATL: Grad Gifting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Dan Lester wrote: > 5/20/2005, 4:45 PM, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > PK> How much would you spend to buy a gift for a > niece graduating from high > PK> school? If she and I were close, I'd go more than $50 in value. Graduation is a big deal to a 17-18 year old. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 15:38:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LKcbdE018271 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 15:38:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 15:38:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006495C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:38:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1321050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:38:37 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LKcbXc025989 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:38:37 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 62416226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:38:36 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050521133842.0659a5c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 13:39:27 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: IMFATL: Grad Gifting In-Reply-To: <20050521202802.80358.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050521202802.80358.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:28 PM 5/21/2005, you wrote: >--- Dan Lester wrote: > > 5/20/2005, 4:45 PM, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > > PK> How much would you spend to buy a gift for a > > niece graduating from high > > PK> school? > > >If she and I were close, I'd go more than $50 in >value. Graduation is a big deal to a 17-18 year old. Well, $50 isn't peanuts. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 16:30:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LLUQdE024126 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:30:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:30:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006495CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:40:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1321082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:40:25 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LKePOx026093 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:40:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so311019wri for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.83.5 with SMTP id g5mr2005833wrb; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 13:40:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gn8gAgmj3PzRz7NiGUatKjOPkKYpQRMgK7C2VLi2vSmGvCjZIUd4ESM/gEMKmRtBh6xdZzR8QXqpcJ/TIpq2ZaF9eeJMsMSBVFep7U82d5PThSCFnw78nzhF8Y7tj77+AZzwDTjaeCoRxpLDSpqAJUpptAjbYPw2hop74gVhHtQ= Message-ID: <462271950505211340369629b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 15:40:24 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Halfway to a Classics MA! In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4LKePOx026095 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/21/05, Espen Ore wrote: > The results from this semester's exams came yesterday: one B and one > C, and I have still managed to do 2/3 fulltime study besides my 1/1 > fulltime job. If I manage to keep up this speed I will have done it by > the end of 2006. But the thesis (which accounts for 1/4 of the whole > thing) is the most important part of it for me, since it will (I hope) > prove that I can do serious papyroloical work in the future. So if I > feel I need it, I will let it go over one semester more, to have > finished by the summer of 2007. I will then still be ahead of my > officially planned progress of 1/2 of fulltime studies. Congrats! (seriously) I've always admired people who mix life, work, and school and don't achieve sanity along the way. p From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 16:34:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LLXvdE024439 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:33:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:34:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006496DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:33:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1324126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:33:56 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LLXujP029912 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:33:56 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.118]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050521213356.HQUT2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:33:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.118]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050521213356.YPDO26760.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:33:56 -0400 Message-ID: <428FA940.3080302@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 16:33:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny References: <428EA2E9.1090709@maynor.net> <1321438048.20050521101610@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1321438048.20050521101610@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Isn't Czech Republic also one of the places to which she hopes to be >named Ambassador? > > Nothing about . It was one of the places she put on her final list for places she could be named Ambassador to if she so chose. I don't know how many were on the original list. She was called to Karl Rove's office sometime in mid November and asked if she'd like to be Ambassador to any one of the places on the list. She narrowed it down to three that she would consider: The Czech Republic, New Zealand, and Sweden. But Thanksgiving, which is the last time I've seen her, she had pretty well decided to say no to being an Ambassador. Her story about the visit to Karl Rove's office was interesting because of the kind of badge she was given upon entrance to the WH. She said nobody seemed to care where she wandered, and at one point she asked a security guard if it was ok to go [wherever -- I don't remember where she was asking about -- maybe through some kind of door she didn't know what was or something]. The guard replied, "With that badge you're wearing, you can go anywhere you want to. There are no restrictions of any kind." So she entertained herself wandering all over the WH, calling friends in Huntsville on her cell phone telling them where she was wandering. (I feel sure that by "no restrictions" he meant the office areas. I doubt that she could've bopped up to Laura's bathroom in search of a tampax to borrow.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 16:35:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LLYudE024577 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:34:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:35:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006497E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:34:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1324144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:34:55 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LLYtEL029968 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:34:55 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.118]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050521213455.HRFB2059.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:34:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.118]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050521213455.YPGS26760.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:34:55 -0400 Message-ID: <428FA97B.5030603@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 16:34:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Halfway to a Classics MA! References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <428F167F.5090003@maynor.net> <3c1d5b5005052109195c79833c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005052109195c79833c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: >from others. But now I have to fill some buckets with 5 kilograms of >white beans so they can soak overnight. > > Sounds fun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 16:46:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LLjvdE025793 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:45:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:46:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006497F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:45:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1324392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:45:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LLjv8x030647 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:45:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so326646wri for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 14:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.45.9 with SMTP id s9mr2036513wrs; Sat, 21 May 2005 14:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 14:45:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rO4FcuKLOeQxB79jPdFea2QfVO/XYfOKcu+hB5iOEn2vreA3LI0iZTFFDr927vyaefOxHNjZ66skYAsCdapv3FKgnQBvCmhocFv2WoHfgTe990ZmZEt2aZQMY74INuChss+bWB2MrqFEqr9gqpDPIEVEsXSg+/GSxsfQgamk1hs= Message-ID: <4622719505052114455f6bcf76@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 16:45:56 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cd and dvd preservation In-Reply-To: <1286178650.20050521101723@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <386835232.20050520142836@gailndan.com> <46227195050520214160e43088@mail.gmail.com> <1286178650.20050521101723@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4LLjv8x030648 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/21/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/20/2005, 10:41 PM, phil paxton wrote: > > pp> Seeing the dos and don'ts reminds me of something: there's at least > pp> one disc burner on the market which has an unusual feature. After > pp> you've finished burning your disc, you can flip it over and the burner > pp> will burn your desired text onto the topside which would normally have > pp> handwriting with a Sharpie. > > There's also one that does it with inkjet printing on the topside. So > far I do fine with markers for nonpermanent things, and Stomper labels > for things that are more permanent. I've been in two client sites (different business products, different states - no reason to be connected) refer to the Stompers as "butt plugs"; e.g. If someone has been caught sharing their flatulence with others, the response has been, "Go get the butt plug!". I'm still doing the "Sharpie thang". I wish they made tips smaller than ultra fine and I know there are thinner tips on the market, but I'm pretty much a blank sheet of paper and a Sharpie guy and use them there pens to label discs (when needed). DVD manufacturers[1] are much nicer to their customers than CD vendors. There are too many CDs which have garbage - limiting space for labelling. DVDs (as a rule) are essentially empty, except for the "bugs" (isn't that the correct term for the emblem at the bottom lower-right corner of the television's video, supplied by the channel which uses them?)channels which choose to use?) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 16:46:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LLkIdE025825 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:46:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:46:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006496EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:46:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1324401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:46:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LLkH0L030682 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:46:17 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7B0BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:46:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200505212146.j4LLkH0L030682@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:46:17 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: IMFATL: Grad Gifting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 21 May 2005 13:39:27 -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: >At 01:28 PM 5/21/2005, you wrote: >>--- Dan Lester wrote: >> > 5/20/2005, 4:45 PM, Peter Kaminski wrote: >> > >> > PK> How much would you spend to buy a gift for a >> > niece graduating from high >> > PK> school? >> >> >>If she and I were close, I'd go more than $50 in >>value. Graduation is a big deal to a 17-18 year old. > >Well, $50 isn't peanuts. > >Betty Taken as cash, it's not more than a sweater or a pair of jeans. The of gift is more critical, I think - if the family is not into technical stuff, a used computer or (if this would be considered offensive) a gift certificate toward one might be good. If she already has a computer, something important to college-level computing (eg, if in the humanities, EndNotes software, or a gig flash drive). If not so much into the computer thing or the college thing, stereo/ipod thingies, or something celebratory - tickets to a concert for her favorite band (2 tickets so she doesn't go alone), or something "lasting" - luggage, jewelry or watch... What about what the gift says about your relationship with her, or about who you see her as, or about who you want her to think of you as? I think these are more critical things to think about than the actual cost. But it is a biggish deal. Oh - one other thing. How many other nieces/ nephews coming up behind? If several, be sure you don't set the bar higher than you want to jump over for every graduation that follows. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 16:51:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LLp8dE026321 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:51:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 16:51:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00649800@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:51:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1324505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:51:07 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LLp7ZR030948 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:51:07 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.118]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050521215107.ZZRL5832.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:51:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.118]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050521215106.QICU23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:51:06 -0400 Message-ID: <428FAD46.3030204@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 16:51:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Fun Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was messing with genealogy stuff last night and decided this morning to go to Brookhaven (about an hour south of here) to try to get to the bottom of the mystery of how my great-great uncle was buried there in 1926 but then apparently rose from the dead and was living in Jackson in 1930. I found the answer. The cemetery book that had him buried in 1926 obviously made a mistake -- either a misreading of the tombstone or a miswriting of a digit. I found out from the funeral-home records that he died in 1936 in Jackson but was buried in Brookhaven beside his first wife (leaving the mystery of why he was buried beside her since he had left her to marry somebody else). The greatest part of the story of today, though, was that the little gray-headed librarian I had talked with when I first got to Brookhaven this morning and had worked with in trying to get the microfilm reader loaded (which we never succeeded in doing -- its nozzle was off and sitting beside the machine) TURNED OUT TO BE MY SECOND COUSIN! We didn't realize that until several hours later. She had told me that if I came back later, maybe somebody would've shown up who knew how to make the microfilm reader work. I went on and wandered in the cemetery for a good while and started to head on home. But then I decided I might as well stop back by the library. I was able to look at the microfilm then but didn't find anything useful in it. When I was leaving, I told the gray-headed woman about my day, and right near the end she asked, "What family are you looking for." When I replied, she said, "My mother was a Maynor -- Alma Maynor Fisher. My grandmother was Marietta White Maynor. Have you ever heard of her?" I said, "YES!! She was the wife of William J. Maynor, the person whose grave I've been looking for." Anyway, she remembered William J. Maynor (who left Marietta for Lilly). And she confirmed that her Aunt Ethel had been a nurse in NYC, something I was pretty sure of from some records I found but couldn't prove. All in all, it was a great day! Speaking of cemetery matters, I don't think I reported that I finally found my picture that The Ghoul had accused me of stealing from him. But here's the odd thing. I had expected to find that it looked very much like his picture. (I didn't remember my picture well -- hadn't had occasion to look at it in a long time.) It doesn't look at all like his. My page is gone from Find-a-Grave now, but it makes me wonder whether somehow his picture DID get stuck on my page. I certainly didn't steal his picture. Why would I have done that? (The idea of stealing grave pictures strikes me as somehow funny.) Anyway, 'tis strange. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 17:11:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LMB1dE028965 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:11:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:11:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064972F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 18:00:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1324920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 18:00:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LM0xQd031785 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 18:00:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so330004wri for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 15:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.27.65 with SMTP id a65mr2796852wra; Sat, 21 May 2005 15:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 15:00:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P3BluYH3HSEA03F0n5GVDx0HO4yMw0tEpixvqzXv+5j57gesQ4QnBqUc4owSKSeo2A1LnEb7fdanfPepdNrl3e8PLwEZocg0C4BdVBlb3idPsai0+egONtJcEIYtvJ+Png3ZCYfqGNeGvBVBKe9V3zi85mwra9E7mVUn3vZC658= Message-ID: <462271950505211500d3f9098@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:00:59 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: just checking in In-Reply-To: <200505211336.j4LDaw8C026473@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505211336.j4LDaw8C026473@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4LM0xQd031786 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/21/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 20 May 2005 16:40:53 -0700, Betty F Clark > wrote: > > >At 04:23 PM 5/20/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>Thanks to all for support over the week. Mom went home today, > >>and it appears that she'll do fine. > >>What a week! > >>clo > > > >Indeed. How many stents? > Two. One artery blocked 90%, one 95%. > And she'll go back in 7-8 weeks for work on her right leg - > am I right in assuming they'll do essentially the same procedure? > clo I lost track - were they arteries as in aortal? If so, why not a bypass instead of stents? (Stents are a big thing around here - actually, I think it's at Cook, down near IU. They've also had a lot of success with the medically coated stents.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 17:32:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4LMWIdE031736 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:32:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 17:32:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064986A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 18:32:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1325560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 18:32:18 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4LMWHpr001026 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 18:32:17 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.118]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050521223218.TCBN25726.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 18:32:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.118]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050521223217.YJZS1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 18:32:17 -0400 Message-ID: <428FB6ED.7070904@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:32:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Card Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One part of today's events was stopping by Walmart and buying another flashcard since I had filled up the one in my camera and had not brought an extra with me. I just downloaded the pictures from the full card and found that there were only 64. The only other time I've filled up the card I had something like 105 pictures. What made it different this time? I wouldn't have been surprised if the precise number of pictures had been off by a few, but to be off by 41?? (It's kind of interesting that these 64 pictures were on a 64MB card. But that was the same card that took 105 earlier. The card I bought at Wmart in Brookhaven is 256 -- cards are cheaper than they used to be.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 19:11:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4M0AxdE009641 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 19:11:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 19:11:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006498F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:10:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1327593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:10:55 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4M0At4T007016 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:10:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7B1E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:10:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200505220010.j4M0At4T007016@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 20:10:55 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: just checking in To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 21 May 2005 17:00:59 -0500, phil paxton wrote: >On 5/21/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Fri, 20 May 2005 16:40:53 -0700, Betty F Clark >> wrote: >> >> >At 04:23 PM 5/20/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >>Thanks to all for support over the week. Mom went home today, >> >>and it appears that she'll do fine. >> >>What a week! >> >>clo >> > >> >Indeed. How many stents? > >> Two. One artery blocked 90%, one 95%. >> And she'll go back in 7-8 weeks for work on her right leg - >> am I right in assuming they'll do essentially the same procedure? >> clo > >I lost track - were they arteries as in aortal? If so, why not a >bypass instead of stents? > >(Stents are a big thing around here - actually, I think it's at Cook, >down near IU. >They've also had a lot of success with the medically coated stents.) The explanation we were given when my Dad went in for angiogram and came out of a quadrupal bypass was that stents are preferred if they seem likely to work, and bypass is used if it's completely blocked. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 20:37:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4M1bgdE019958 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:37:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:37:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00649A72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:37:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1329890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:37:42 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4M1bfSi012274 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:37:41 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.118]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050522013741.ZPIX2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:37:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.118]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050522013741.KKWD11146.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:37:41 -0400 Message-ID: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 20:37:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Name Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does the name Edwin Wank sound Latvian? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 22:46:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4M3kidE003039 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 22:46:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 22:46:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7B625@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:46:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1336135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:46:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4M3khaJ020720 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:46:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so395691wri for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.81.14 with SMTP id e14mr2944446wrb; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:46:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LLryMoMticdF2Mu03RnmbBb39gm2sCqtU/wGG+PSIl7rV5Dh28glTOKy8C35PPTK8kpkuJTYyoKNffTQBZnQp2FW1uyqTkSZ3uUnpvoTRVrXHH2fcCiXFK6rEUTk/kTKOrEtQ5izEFTZeBZebZ3+2uByg3HWWNp4Ccq2wHS+1kg= Message-ID: <4622719505052120463d054709@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 22:46:43 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question In-Reply-To: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4M3khaJ020721 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/21/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Does the name Edwin Wank sound Latvian? Did he move to England and change his name to Edwin Wanker? (sorry, I couldn't resist. Today's a methadone day) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 22:59:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4M3x9dE004553 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 22:59:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 22:59:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7B652@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:59:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1336563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:59:07 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4M3x79O021474 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:59:07 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so397850wri for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.45.9 with SMTP id s9mr2177291wrs; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 20:59:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M8nOYZwaqq4bA4VFmk+M896PSWjCIFxvbZGVIz/3OnOPeNTL73mmerr5uqvMP+3u8pynsxeV/+gYTd3cVk5qMbxs05dSCeTp8cvNi9RhMjETrBvaXb6LtNwXMKQzCBkauvBngRO6f5BsPWGyc7WfLV1Ec9M5wt7qzaogH8nkXpc= Message-ID: <4622719505052120593dccab2a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 22:59:07 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny In-Reply-To: <428FA940.3080302@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428EA2E9.1090709@maynor.net> <1321438048.20050521101610@gailndan.com> <428FA940.3080302@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4M3x79O021479 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/21/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > office areas. I doubt that she could've bopped up to Laura's bathroom > in search of a tampax to borrow.) borrow? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 23:21:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4M4LjdE007465 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:21:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:21:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00649DCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 0:11:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1338125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 00:10:56 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4M4AtGP022847 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 00:10:56 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so399657wri for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.11.31 with SMTP id 31mr2772529wrk; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:10:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J+Q8FVUT65LcIuJEe4E9iSXRpD6d8/qbiUToBwLiVeop+cwmpcI9oxANsb4Edaiou0WeahmMrzc6f/BiDcOmcS4INvHfQs+Zu0PxYfMpPvLnQHk1JS8LMxmFdZgZxceBTuefq+ivbdCmGTipvuIzCNRg/Qp0zmPS3NvU6khDkuM= Message-ID: <462271950505212110191b793d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:10:55 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Fwd: Blogging In-Reply-To: <428C97B9.8050506@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428C97B9.8050506@ra.msstate.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4M4AuGP022850 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/19/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I found this interesting (that even in 2004 so many net > users had no idea what a blog was): > > *********** > Still, surveys conducted by the Pew Internet and American > Life Project in 2004 reported that although 27 percent of > Internet users blog, 62 percent of Internet users do not > know what a blog is. > *********** I wonder how many people have read one and didn't realize it? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 21 23:43:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4M4gwdE010043 for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:42:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 23:43:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7B7ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 0:42:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1339715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 00:42:58 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4M4gvnB024563 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 00:42:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so405687wri for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.13 with SMTP id n13mr2191226wra; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 21:42:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eo7C1bpO4tCG43rblp770qyKm2W8cn8b1TEfLRrGN4ETSPHPlpSSkWWx8eZoILLnr57yFc5oO3RY0ezv/uTrTw1ghVtdmaAhtNahTEhGrPbLDeZIe/sXKctr1iQ5Qv3a2HzvGaidS/RPD/zAPWZu9Ki/I0LjJTDc7mwsB9lbAdY= Message-ID: <4622719505052121422dde897@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:42:57 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4M4gvnB024564 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/20/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > CDs are pretty inert, and static electricity doesn't affect them. > (Although you can get a pretty light show by putting one in a microwave > oven. Do not attempt at home: it will damage your CD and your oven, at > least.) When Mythbusters did the light show with a disc in a microwave oven, they never had a problem with the oven - even after considerable time of ruining discs. p From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 00:05:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4M54vdE012937 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 00:04:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 00:05:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00649D11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 1:04:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1340656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 01:04:49 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4M54mrE025928 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 01:04:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so409673wri for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 22:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.74 with SMTP id e74mr2793887wra; Sat, 21 May 2005 22:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 22:04:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aHdKscHy3Ot6tHkjVG6n9+n3VqwUcRrRDfALaHRpc/hlRLZKqFuKdlo86Oihnjmzikdye8Put227h2SjNjIhBn276E0hGBJ5dnSLx5fdZxBm48WLtMpGttC4smYkH3W6iijOxG7n+5w3flSe5tr+eTq+4+fHO0PzZyq6+PH1JxI= Message-ID: <46227195050521220416c2c9f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 00:04:48 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Card Question In-Reply-To: <428FB6ED.7070904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428FB6ED.7070904@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4M54mrE025929 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/21/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > One part of today's events was stopping by Walmart and buying another > flashcard since I had filled up the one in my camera and had not brought > an extra with me. I just downloaded the pictures from the full card and > found that there were only 64. The only other time I've filled up the > card I had something like 105 pictures. What made it different this > time? I wouldn't have been surprised if the precise number of pictures > had been off by a few, but to be off by 41?? (It's kind of interesting > that these 64 pictures were on a 64MB card. But that was the same card > that took 105 earlier. The card I bought at Wmart in Brookhaven is 256 > -- cards are cheaper than they used to be.) I don't use mine very often so I grabbed mine[1] and thumbed through the options - the two which I already suspected....but have you changed any settings which define the resolution and picture type? A change of either trait would have a tremendous bearing on how many pictures you can take. Mine will take motion|sound as well - but it's not sophisticated - it's about three years old. [1] The first picture which popped up was "MOO & OINK" - a meat grocery on the far south side of Chicago (from a trip my doctor) - side roads instead of expressways. It's as plain as day "MOO & OINK" with a picture of a cow & pig. (it's a fair-sized building) and that's all of the signage they need. Holly won't stop so I can run in; heck, she wouldn't stop so I could get a *good* picture of the signs; so I talked my mom & grandmother into it in December. They didn't know any better and Holly forgot to warn them off. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 00:33:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4M5XGdE016123 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 00:33:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 00:33:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00649F1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 1:33:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1341442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 01:33:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4M5XF6G027220 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 01:33:15 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so414703wri for ; Sat, 21 May 2005 22:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.38 with SMTP id f38mr1343600wra; Sat, 21 May 2005 22:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 21 May 2005 22:33:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P3QoYTDT+hrPSlHb+hdnFhHSGpiBLJ2M1RWWy7TqFL3IbzXLKGCkg+uBjPLuA/j9mJhq+m49SasbZIrurLDurugHG8SANe9z6faEMmJrP9occBpK4icqtnmdhLr5MvDaD0eKPFy0hI5v+vNmrEOVMMCLRLC2g1bfRVpX+Gr+X4M= Message-ID: <46227195050521223335adf59@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 00:33:15 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFATL: Grad Gifting In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050521133842.0659a5c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050521202802.80358.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050521133842.0659a5c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4M5XF6G027221 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >If she and I were close, I'd go more than $50 in > >value. Graduation is a big deal to a 17-18 year old. It is? Maybe because they get away from high school. It's been awhile (it's my 25th this summer) but IIRC, anyone caught between me and the door wasn't going to make me turn around and play EMT. > Well, $50 isn't peanuts. No, but peanuts are $50 on most of the airlines these days. (I love it when people feed me straight lines on Saturdays.) ;) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 06:43:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MBhQdE005802 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:43:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:43:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00649F5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 7:33:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1347322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:33:26 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MBXP2g011758 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:33:25 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.82]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050522113325.ONMC2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:33:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.82]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050522113325.FMEB15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:33:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42906E01.2050708@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 06:33:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Card Question References: <428FB6ED.7070904@maynor.net> <46227195050521220416c2c9f9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46227195050521220416c2c9f9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >but have you >changed any settings which define the resolution and picture type? A >change of either trait would have a tremendous bearing >on how many pictures you can take. > Aha. I bet it was something like that. I have never changed anything intentionally, but there are some buttons on the back of the camera that I've accidentally hit at times. Perhaps I should dig out the book and read about them sometime. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 06:43:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MBhQdE005804 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:43:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:43:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064A069@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 7:33:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1347333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:33:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MBXcor011778 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:33:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so79511nzp for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 04:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.20 with SMTP id t20mr1136424nzt; Sun, 22 May 2005 04:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 22 May 2005 04:33:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AuwESXU9Ga69TgeI8CO6r1V/uhm0P8jTudXhQVZH0EknrcWOnkl+sSYi9okPUSddlw87IqzhDeIFc3oF9OekBA47RKwjtbS9xRpt+bXuio4iqiIHvjetCopy1i2D8h20pa/nxNGx8KvFIDixtmTxvk4YACO2ye8Q4tKtUr5PBXw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505220433234ffc4d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 06:33:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Blogging In-Reply-To: <42906D2F.3070508@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <428C97B9.8050506@ra.msstate.edu> <462271950505212110191b793d@mail.gmail.com> <42906D2F.3070508@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4MBXdor011779 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/22/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Is there a precise definition of a blog? I remember being surprised > when my uncle referred to something like alternet.org as a blog. I had > never thought of it as one. But I guess it is. The new items are added > on top. That's one of the characteristics. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 06:46:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MBkcdE006222 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:46:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:46:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7BB92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 7:44:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1347552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:44:26 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MBiQbo012638 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:44:26 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.82]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050522114426.BSNR25726.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:44:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.82]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050522114426.BGCS1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:44:26 -0400 Message-ID: <42907096.20900@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 06:44:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: For Ben Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A column saying that giving the USM pres another year is a bad move: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050522/COL0601/505220373/1201 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 06:46:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MBkcdE006218 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:46:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:46:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7BB69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 7:26:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1347171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:26:37 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MBQbwx011369 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:26:37 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.82]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050522112637.OLVL2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:26:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.82]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050522112636.FLLR15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:26:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42906C68.7030105@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 06:26:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Funny References: <428EA2E9.1090709@maynor.net> <1321438048.20050521101610@gailndan.com> <428FA940.3080302@maynor.net> <4622719505052120593dccab2a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505052120593dccab2a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >>office areas. I doubt that she could've bopped up to Laura's bathroom >>in search of a tampax to borrow.) >> >> >borrow? > > Yes. She would not necessarily have to go back upstairs to return it, though. She could probably give it to somebody working downstairs -- or maybe just mail it back. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 06:46:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MBkcdE006221 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:46:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:46:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7BB5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 7:29:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1347242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:29:55 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MBTt0V011584 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:29:55 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.82]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050522112955.OMNR2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:29:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.82]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050522112954.FLTU15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:29:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42906D2F.3070508@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 06:29:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Blogging References: <428C97B9.8050506@ra.msstate.edu> <462271950505212110191b793d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <462271950505212110191b793d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >>Internet users blog, 62 percent of Internet users do not >>know what a blog is. >>*********** >> >> > >I wonder how many people have read one and didn't realize it? > > Is there a precise definition of a blog? I remember being surprised when my uncle referred to something like alternet.org as a blog. I had never thought of it as one. But I guess it is. The new items are added on top. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 07:34:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MCYNdE011908 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:34:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:34:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7BBED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 8:34:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1348422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 08:34:23 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MCYNBi015755 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 08:34:23 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-219.gwi.net [216.195.167.219]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4MCYIjo028861; Sun, 22 May 2005 08:34:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050522082358.01bec598@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 08:34:18 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: A Card Question In-Reply-To: <42906E01.2050708@maynor.net> References: <428FB6ED.7070904@maynor.net> <46227195050521220416c2c9f9@mail.gmail.com> <42906E01.2050708@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:33 AM 5/22/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Aha. I bet it was something like that. I have never changed anything >intentionally, but there are some buttons on the back of the camera that >I've accidentally hit at times. Perhaps I should dig out the book and >read about them sometime. Yes, when in doubt, there's always the FM. My camera may be near the upper extreme in this case; I have seven "quality" settings that range from 0.9 MB (1536 x 1024 pixels) that on a 128 MB card yield about 132 images to 7 MB (3072 x 2048) that yield 16 images. The number of image files may also depend on the ISO setting and for that matter, any other settings on your camera that you can adjust or change. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 07:50:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MCocdE014236 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:50:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 07:50:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7BC06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 8:50:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1348804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 08:50:38 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MCoctX017127 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 08:50:38 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 105312046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 05:50:37 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050522054651.03215db0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 05:51:33 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: A Card Question In-Reply-To: <46227195050521220416c2c9f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <428FB6ED.7070904@maynor.net> <46227195050521220416c2c9f9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, you took 262 photos with my 512 MB card set to the highest quality. I leave it set to the highest quality now because you never know when you may want to print some, but the number could be easily tripled on the lowest quality which is just fine for e-mailing. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 08:46:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MDkedE021014 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 08:46:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 08:46:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064A2AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 9:46:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1351591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 09:46:39 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MDkdIa021840 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 09:46:39 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.71]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050522134639.LSYB7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 09:46:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.71]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050522134639.XIF11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 09:46:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42908D39.5060808@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 08:46:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Card Question References: <428FB6ED.7070904@maynor.net> <46227195050521220416c2c9f9@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522054651.03215db0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050522054651.03215db0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Natalie, you took 262 photos with my 512 MB card set to the highest > quality. I leave it set to the highest quality now because you never know > when you may want to print some, but the number could be easily > tripled on > the lowest quality which is just fine for e-mailing. I should definitely explore my camera situation. I have no idea what anything is set on. I've never really noticed much difference before or after accidentally hitting one of the buttons on its back. Some pictures look better than others, but that can be true for those taken one after the other, with no accidental button-pushing in between. (I don't print pictures. They exist virtually only.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 08:52:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MDqEdE021634 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 08:52:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 08:52:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7BD6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 9:52:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1351712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 09:52:14 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MDqDMb022135; Sun, 22 May 2005 09:52:14 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 105320668; Sun, 22 May 2005 06:52:12 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050522064953.028b3610@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 06:53:08 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: A Card Question In-Reply-To: <42908D39.5060808@maynor.net> References: <428FB6ED.7070904@maynor.net> <46227195050521220416c2c9f9@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522054651.03215db0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42908D39.5060808@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:46 AM 5/22/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: I should definitely explore my camera situation. I have no idea what >anything is set on. I've never really noticed much difference before or >after accidentally hitting one of the buttons on its back. Some >pictures look better than others, but that can be true for those taken >one after the other, with no accidental button-pushing in between. (I >don't print pictures. They exist virtually only.) > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I've printed very few until Nathaniel. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 10:18:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MFIQdE032634 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 10:18:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 10:18:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064AE37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 11:18:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1376156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:18:26 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MFIPGJ001086 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:18:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070E79826E for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:18:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06763-01 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:18:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBFD981C1 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:18:22 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:18:17 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.491 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Does the name Edwin Wank sound Latvian? No. Edvins Vanks would. But Latvians quite freely change the ways of spelling their names depending on in which language area they use them. Both Edwin and Wank probably may be German names -- and as the pronunciation of the letter w is /v/ in German, and as due to the Baltic-German settling in Latvia historically there may be many German-influenced names, it may be a name of a Latvian who in a text in the Latvian language would spell his name as Edvins Vanks. Btw, it is not even important whether the names' origin is German or any other language. Usually a Latvian, afaik, brings its spelling into the concordance with the tradition of their own language anyway, and into that with another when using it. Why? Did you find Latvian roots in your genealogy? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 10:44:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MFi2dE003169 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 10:44:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 10:44:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064B199@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 11:44:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1380735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:44:02 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MFi1VW003510 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:44:01 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD74697580 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:44:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09320-03 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:44:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA1D97335 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:43:58 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:43:46 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Halfway to a Classics MA! References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.362 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY, INFO_TLD X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: >The results from this semester's exams came yesterday: one B and one >C, and I have still managed to do 2/3 fulltime study besides my 1/1 >fulltime job. If I manage to keep up this speed I will have done it by >the end of 2006. But the thesis (which accounts for 1/4 of the whole >thing) is the most important part of it for me, since it will (I hope) >prove that I can do serious papyroloical work in the future. So if I >feel I need it, I will let it go over one semester more, to have >finished by the summer of 2007. I will then still be ahead of my >officially planned progress of 1/2 of fulltime studies. > > Congratulations! And admirations! >And tomorrow I will feed the >religious masses at the Vesak celebration, we guess at something >between 80 and 100 participants - I have baked the loaves, and since >this will be a vegetarian feast, I will not bring fishes but make a >(more or less) Greek fasolada. > > I found this at http://www.buddhamind.info/leftside/actives/vesak-lite.htm (I hope it'll show itself as meant, with fixed width): //'''\\ | - - | _..|_ _|.._ / \ | : : | | \ / | \ _ _( O )_ _ / : \___// - \\___/: .--/\______ _____/\---. \____-----\ -- /--- ____/ Not that I expect this should bring about exclamations of praise or anything, it may even seem banal. But in the context of the site where I found it it looked like one more creative thing that people do from sheer joy. Btw, isn't Vesak Day on the day when there is full moon? That is, tomorrow? Is it different among different schools, or circles? It is said, a candle offered on Vesak Day has the power of offering a thousand candles. And promises made on the day have the power thousand times bigger than that of a promise made on an ordinary day. Now, how should I know on which day, today or tomorrow, I should offer a candle or make an important promise? ;-) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 11:13:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MGDFdE006230 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:13:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:13:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064B158@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 11:53:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1382250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:53:14 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MFrDQb004427 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:53:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8942897CF4 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:53:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10743-04 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:53:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001BA97D05 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:53:13 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4290AAD6.8080105@akad.ee> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:52:54 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: A test [Re: Halfway to a Classics MA!] References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.447 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > (I hope it'll > show itself as meant, with fixed width): It didn't. If you can endure, I'll try once more, for I have always problems with sending even simple messages where a word is "underlined" with some marks that are actually typed as the next row. It is always ok when reading your messages that require fixed width. //'''\\ | - - | _..|_ _|.._ / \ | : : | | \ / | \ _ _( O )_ _ / : \___// - \\___/: .--/\______ _____/\---. \____-----\ -- /--- ____/ Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 11:13:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MGDFdE006232 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:13:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:13:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064B290@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 12:01:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1382689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 12:01:24 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MG1NL6005123 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 12:01:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FFF97949 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:01:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13473-06 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:01:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDE79790E for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:01:22 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4290ACBB.3080507@akad.ee> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 19:00:59 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A test [Re: Halfway to a Classics MA!] References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <4290AAD6.8080105@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4290AAD6.8080105@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.487 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >> (I hope it'll >> show itself as meant, with fixed width): > > > It didn't. If you can endure, I'll try once more No, I won't try any more. I have changed the preferences this way and another, now they are the same for composing a message and viewing a received message. Still the picture of my own message cannot be viewed as I composed it. It was just slighltly different the second time, but not like it should have been. I've never got it right. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 11:16:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MGGXdE006540 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:16:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:16:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064B4B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 12:16:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1385701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 12:16:33 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MGGWRY006705 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 12:16:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005052216163201400971k6e>; Sun, 22 May 2005 16:16:32 +0000 Message-ID: <4290B05F.5010006@istori.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:16:31 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> <4622719505052121422dde897@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505052121422dde897@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton writes, > When Mythbusters did the light show with a disc in a microwave oven, > they never had a problem with the oven - even after considerable time > of ruining discs. That's your standard for science and safety, then? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 11:39:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MGcxdE009341 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:39:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:39:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064B4DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 12:38:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1389476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 12:37:51 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MGbp8E008837 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 12:37:51 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050522163750016004qhmde>; Sun, 22 May 2005 16:37:51 +0000 Message-ID: <4290B55E.6030701@istori.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:37:50 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFATL: Grad Gifting References: <200505212146.j4LLkH0L030682@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505212146.j4LLkH0L030682@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, folks! I was thinking about software for the laptop her parents are going to buy her, but the package I was thinking about is about $140, which is probably inappropriately large. clo, this is a really good reminder: > What about what the gift says about your relationship with her, or about > who you see her as, or about who you want her to think of you as? I think > these are more critical things to think about than the actual cost. I'll keep you posted on what we end up doing. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 12:11:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MHBSdE013396 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 12:11:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 12:11:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064B841@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 13:11:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1396031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 13:11:28 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MHBS1e011903 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 13:11:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7D76E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 13:11:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200505221711.j4MHBS1e011903@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:11:28 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: IMFATL: Grad Gifting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 22 May 2005 09:37:50 -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Thanks, folks! I was thinking about software for the laptop her parents >are going to buy her, but the package I was thinking about is about >$140, which is probably inappropriately large. She likely would not be offended ... Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 12:37:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MHb5dE016215 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 12:37:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 12:37:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7D7BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 13:37:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1397102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 13:37:04 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MHb4Ns013914 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 13:37:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005052217370301400920qke>; Sun, 22 May 2005 17:37:03 +0000 Message-ID: <4290C33E.7000108@istori.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 10:37:02 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFATL: Grad Gifting References: <200505221711.j4MHBS1e011903@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505221711.j4MHBS1e011903@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mrs. Williams writes, > She likely would not be offended ... My sister would be, but yeah, that's probably manageable. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 13:00:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MI0SdE018903 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 13:00:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 13:00:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064BA98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 14:00:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1397789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 14:00:28 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MI0SRS015573 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 14:00:28 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.101.88]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050522180028.GJCJ25726.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 14:00:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.101.88]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050522180027.DCCA1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 14:00:27 -0400 Message-ID: <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:00:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Why? Did you find Latvian roots in your genealogy? Not roots exactly -- but a side twig. This second cousin I accidentally met isn't into genealogy at all but of course knew things about the family members she had known personally. I asked her if one of her mother's sisters had been a nurse in NYC, something I had found an indication of online a year or two ago but not firm proof. She said yes -- she had worked on Ellis Island and married a Latvian. I didn't think to ask her his name. But when I went back to the cemetery to find the family graves she'd given me the directions to, I found this person and presumably her Latvian husband. Her tombstone said "Ethel M. Wank" and his "Edward E. Wank" -- and oops -- I just realize that I wrote Edwin in that e-mail. Anyway, I plan to do some more poking around for info on the allegedly Latvian Edward Wank. Your tips about possible adaptations of the spelling might help me find him on a boat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 13:39:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MIdLdE024066 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 13:39:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 13:39:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064B95E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 14:39:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1399114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 14:39:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MIdIvL018393 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 14:39:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so2016537nzk for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.15 with SMTP id g15mr1169461nzc; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 22 May 2005 11:39:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=gVX+lACu94SxSjCtlOSRSAF1htYNbcv+oj3ElOQ2n5kIwImXpT/MgOq3RtqwMtjZ3ReyxI2hcgg8EoyWGNrAeWiwimCPR4FEZ2f+NVWBm1eILz26uyVEjSeLQOemt5Nygrr6SH25P5PWAocz422GIZcKqkClzR2U3GNHtQW7fbw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052211394dc8cd22@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 13:39:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: A Richard Moment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4MIdKvL018398 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20050522 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 16:19:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MLIsdE011714 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 16:18:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 16:19:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064BE36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 17:18:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1410982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 17:18:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MLIsBN031208 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 17:18:54 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so623304wri for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 14:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.79.16 with SMTP id c16mr3461994wrb; Sun, 22 May 2005 14:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sun, 22 May 2005 14:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iE6ptlgDaV6vO2LhckGKtI5r29gSNbCkSqSVB/sTNzP0PMMRdyu9Bu2V4uH5uPylVFkfS3acaYXbKPgGlLsuYQQcPJySW4a8WxfETmT9p/gUkt1mqCfxJKfCqO0yo3eS9U00yUO1MEP8gejTvIjUCEAbte2UckLdAYCLCBECMpU= Message-ID: <4622719505052214186d6e93ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 16:18:53 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A test [Re: Halfway to a Classics MA!] In-Reply-To: <4290ACBB.3080507@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <4290AAD6.8080105@akad.ee> <4290ACBB.3080507@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4MLIsBN031209 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/22/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >> (I hope it'll > >> show itself as meant, with fixed width): > > > > > > It didn't. If you can endure, I'll try once more > > No, I won't try any more. I have changed the preferences this way and > another, now they are the same for composing a message and viewing a > received message. Still the picture of my own message cannot be viewed > as I composed it. It was just slighltly different the second time, but > not like it should have been. I've never got it right. I don't understand how it precludes copying selected text to another application and assigning a fixed font to it won't work. I can make neither heads nor tails out of it, but I did open it up /c a fixed font. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 18:47:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4MNl6dE026404 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:47:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:47:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064C2A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 19:47:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1421404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:47:06 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4MNl67B009413 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:47:06 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4MNl57M016563 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:47:05 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4MNkYLT027312 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:46:35 -0400 Message-ID: <001f01c55f28$7f5c1980$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705052211394dc8cd22@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: A Richard Moment Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 19:45:28 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" > http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20050522 http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 19:08:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N08CdE029407 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:08:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:08:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064C2D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 20:08:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1421993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:08:11 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N08Bdc011309 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:08:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so666214wri for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 17:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.42.32 with SMTP id p32mr2788699wrp; Sun, 22 May 2005 17:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sun, 22 May 2005 17:08:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OgRygJq/ravrXlrgjLnmBuZyR+8ct3xya03/ydvi7q27MxmsRjmTXzFJVkTdVMxRgFB54HRTS6iVMr7A/mtcdUbH+AwlJrlWY77p0pnwEbztTElYq+ALsPKVGyKEnoguiYCOrjSzGM7hRSL2ahHVLcT8UeSDkr+L0ZW3Mex9Z3s= Message-ID: <462271950505221708bb3c9d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 19:08:11 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <4290B05F.5010006@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> <4622719505052121422dde897@mail.gmail.com> <4290B05F.5010006@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4N08Bdc011312 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/22/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > phil paxton writes, > > > When Mythbusters did the light show with a disc in a microwave oven, > > they never had a problem with the oven - even after considerable time > > of ruining discs. > > That's your standard for science and safety, then? I didn't assert that. I merely stated what I observed. Granted, they can edit it to say what they wish, but how is that any different than anything else? Wasn't there an album a few years "There Are Three Sides to Every Story: Yours, Mine, and the Truth" ? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 19:32:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N0WkdE031845 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:32:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:32:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064C3F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 20:32:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1422459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:32:45 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N0Wj5f013126 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:32:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005052300324401400931mve>; Mon, 23 May 2005 00:32:44 +0000 Message-ID: <429124AC.8000508@istori.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:32:44 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> <4622719505052121422dde897@mail.gmail.com> <4290B05F.5010006@istori.com> <462271950505221708bb3c9d4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <462271950505221708bb3c9d4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton writes, > I didn't assert that. No, you didn't. I'm teasing, a little. > Granted, they can edit it to say what they wish, but how is that any > different than anything else? Well, an edited-for-TV version *is* different from being there in person and observing everything. How long did they cook each CD? How long did they let the magnetron cool between takes? Was there any arcing or heating damage in the interior of the oven? What was the condition of the magnetron before and after the experiments? What safety precautions did they take and what safety equipment did they have on hand? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 20:33:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N1X5dE005933 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:33:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:33:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064C34C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 21:23:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1423590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:23:05 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N1N4Bk016428 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:23:04 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 105437929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:23:04 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:23:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty F Clark Subject: Thanks, Natalie In-Reply-To: <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Those cheese sticks (strips?) go good with beer. We just opened and shared with a friend who stopped by. I like them. They have a nice delayed bite. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 20:33:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N1X5dE005932 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:33:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:33:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064C50D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 21:28:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1423689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:28:23 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N1SNjl016822 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:28:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.103] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D6CBE8C2 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 18:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Pierre-Boulez: Comfort is the worst enemy of art Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:28:13 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: IMFTAL: Portable audio Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks to a recent spate of unseasonably wet weather, I've concluded that my goal of getting to the gym on a reasonably regular basis is just not going to happen until I can find something in the way of an audio player to keep my mind off the drudgery of the exercise machines. (The gym has four TV screens presumably for that purpose, but I find the programs on them generally unwatchable.) I tried out a Creative MuVo N200 because of its ability to handle both MP3s and FM radio, but its FM reception was so static-filled and unlistenable that I didn't even get around to trying its MP3 abilities before returning it. So I'm wondering if it is yet possible to get what I want, which is a single mobile audio device that meets the following criteria: * Good FM reception. (Some of my best times for exercising occur when there are non-podcasted radio programs that I don't want to miss.) * MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis/etc playback ability. * Not too expensive, where "expensive" is defined as beginning somewhere around $100 and going up not too much from there, although I'd be willing to pay more for a product that meets all the other requirements. * If it plays well with Linux, that's a plus, but not an absolute requirement. * The smaller, the better. It needs to be something that I can take to the gym and not have to worry about schlepping it around or having it get in the way. Any recommendations? Also, and separate from the above, the earbud-type earphones that seem to be standard nowadays generally don't work for me, so I'm also looking for "regular" earphone recommendations. Ken Miller Maynor School of Inquiry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 20:45:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N1jCdE007057 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:45:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:45:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064C537@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 21:45:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1424120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:45:12 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N1jC9J017673 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:45:12 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050523014511014001ocqfe>; Mon, 23 May 2005 01:45:11 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: IMFTAL: Portable audio Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:45:02 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Any recommendations? I love my Cowon iAudio CW200, which is now quite obsolete, but I bet they're cheap. See http://www.cowon.com. > Also, and separate from the above, the earbud-type earphones that seem to > be standard nowadays generally don't work for me, so I'm also looking for > "regular" earphone recommendations. Because they fall out? I got a set of Sony sports-style earbuds on a regular headband (none of the behind-the-head style for me) and they work well with the iAudio. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 21:15:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N2FndE010963 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:15:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:15:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064C3BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 22:15:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1425340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:15:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N2Fmev020152 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:15:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so2107351nzk for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.15 with SMTP id g15mr1208591nzc; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:15:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m7IOEN/FdMLM3mMMfnReZu4WpQNWsFbDbq0zsRBzdMJKPb3gjj1MIV+AliRL4UCvXyEbXEEc2uHNnfZbdXWdYdjJ9dzgwL/anhECUio3oH1MoVsxE0l0I8pY7D6yIyJi1TDm9PqjQJZqGdwtNfFBu2CFlW5DiK3jJEugfmYUzmk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050522191572022b39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:15:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFTAL: Portable audio In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4N2Fmev020153 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/22/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Any recommendations? > > I love my Cowon iAudio CW200, which is now quite obsolete, but I bet they're > cheap. See http://www.cowon.com. I'd check e-Bay. > > Also, and separate from the above, the earbud-type earphones that seem to > > be standard nowadays generally don't work for me, so I'm also looking for > > "regular" earphone recommendations. > > Because they fall out? Huh. Most of them are too big for me. I have two pair that I hope never wear out! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 21:19:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N2JKdE011220 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:19:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:19:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064C3C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 22:19:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1425501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:19:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N2JJDS020437 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:19:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so2108052nzk for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.6 with SMTP id k6mr1209790nzk; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:19:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I9dGMg+sorWF7wGTrZ95nEyDAE9AWxiwVBadYSdas7MywgehObPUFhohNKGSnUax8YAsBTZuFqrMrP0s2wqc+RrXXvTOSECym9MhzlnyIHV8Cb+ji0t3vB89nmDsz/v3Lcn5ASJJ2zvqXKtbOhH/8W3mrKfUrqffyI6146mzH84= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050522191942a91e11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:19:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFTAL: Portable audio In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4N2JJDS020439 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/22/05, Bookrat wrote: > I tried out a Creative MuVo N200 because of its ability to handle both MP3s > and FM radio, but its FM reception was so static-filled and unlistenable > that I didn't even get around to trying its MP3 abilities before returning > it. Did you only try it at the gym, or did you try it elsewhere? Some buildings just block reception. But you knew that. My radio just doesn't work well at work. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 21:22:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N2MedE011690 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:22:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:22:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064C4DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 22:22:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1425613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:22:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N2MdvF020690 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:22:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so271085nzp for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.4 with SMTP id n4mr1204980nzc; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:22:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uQPIid/nFAaBOrXatMgEkohvR6S11BS/61guMHvTivocN6eKZCLkGxFb29muTt9LPf3372jDAKJz91zoVd1rLTRiYDAN3qo8/rps5gSBHx/wJYBsDu6QlrPPC5Xbq2tTiGssSUPTanCqqhX+kNqldcVo4nfTbG9Phlsuf9KZXDo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050522192216532589@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:22:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A book for Alan In-Reply-To: <07d701c55b10$03a55b60$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050517095661e33761@mail.gmail.com> <07d701c55b10$03a55b60$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4N2MdvF020691 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/17/05, Alan Wild wrote: > I have to admit that I've revised some of my stands on the trigger issues: > the most prominent to me perhaps is my more liberal-leaning attitude towards > abortion... and that's not a jab, Karen; I have found a new way to look at > it. What new way? How did you find it? I am not a fan of abortion, myself. But I am unrepentantly in favor of a woman's right to choose. > ... So the label you may pin on me may not be appropriate anymore. I'm not a big label-pinner. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 21:29:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N2T8dE012318 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:29:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:29:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064C5A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 22:29:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1425928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:29:07 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N2T7LI021217 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:29:07 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so700242wri for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.45.34 with SMTP id s34mr3483265wrs; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sun, 22 May 2005 19:29:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=owo5uv4CE4JPIL5ufRo+bKOUGsL+yZWsXyuP4+yIb2v15SM4JCP3F6JN5IrVkzsYnOxTmf+Hy7fXFcr1qUhPR/mvEUA6XWvYBtZ6mJCiXb770TXnXSi9omrX3QyfW2H/FKtVJrUew63pYK8FscYFZrO4up+rCuE27H/pmNjynPg= Message-ID: <4622719505052219291e78d172@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:29:07 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <429124AC.8000508@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> <4622719505052121422dde897@mail.gmail.com> <4290B05F.5010006@istori.com> <462271950505221708bb3c9d4@mail.gmail.com> <429124AC.8000508@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4N2T7LI021219 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/22/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Well, an edited-for-TV version *is* different from being there in person > and observing everything. How long did they cook each CD? How long did > they let the magnetron cool between takes? Was there any arcing or > heating damage in the interior of the oven? What was the condition of > the magnetron before and after the experiments? What safety precautions > did they take and what safety equipment did they have on hand? It doesn't matter. Jamie lived [here] in Indiana for quite some time and that's good enough for me! In all seriousness, I am baffled at what has made Jamie kept Adam on as an employee in the years prior to MythBusters. If you removed all of the dunsels from Adam's contraptions, there wouldn't be anything left. It's sort of like a volleyball net at an apartment complex, beach party, whereever. There's some bigass granny knot the size of my fist and the net still sags like a 93-year-old's breasts[2] Untangle it, apply a simple[1] hitch or two from the Boy Scouts, and you could let the McGuire[3] twins hang from it /s any drooping. Adam loves to tie the granny knots. They have to have a decent bonding off-air, Jamie has to tolerate most of Adam's immaturity & most of his pranks have no degree of purpose, and Jamie has to be using him for comedic relief. Maybe Adam is blackmailing Jamie? I do have to quibble about one of the shows - when they locked a couple of decent-sized pigs in a Corvette for three months(? three weeks? six weeks?), testing the premise regarding whether a car could be made unusable by someone having died it it. When the recovery crew came and the owner didn't require a mask of some type, it brought back memories. I used to know funeral home directors who couldn't have handled that stench. I figured he had to be someone /s the sense of smell or had a doc snip his olfactory nerve because of how much money he could make without it. Considering the car had to be sold for parts & scrap, you can guess what happened. [4] read at your own level of discomfort. I think Adam has attributed some unusual things to Jamie - hints of something strange with the military, owning a pet shop and teaching a goldfish to ring a bell, a World Whist Champion, etc. I do agree about one thing: if it doesn't break as is, add more fuel...need big boom. ( I believe that's Jamie's statement in some of the opening sequences). Some time ago, there were a substantial number of mothers whining on the discussion boards, pleading for a little less flash & boom because their 4 & 5 year-olds liked to watch it but they didn't want the kids exposed to the "violence". They weren't happy when I'd start pointing out it wasn't "MythBusters for Kids". If they were that concerned, then they were taping Mythbusters because of when it was on the air. And if they were taping it, they could censor it. Somehow, they weren't happy that they would have to do the work themselves. If I juggle torches out on the driveway (esp. 'round sundown when I can see the fire) and the neighbor kids see me, is it my fault if Mom's broomstick disappears that night? What about when the inevitable disassembly of a tv, radio, vcr, toaster, etc.? Come to think of it, lack of disassembled items should almost be a psychological marker. If you've got something which physically looks like a son and you aren't finding things missing or when they are missing but are later found intact, it's time to take the little tyke to the shrink. [1] "Make things simple, not simpler." -Erasmus Or as I like to say: "From simplicity arises elegance." [2] Perhaps the one who was in Penthouse? (was that in '02 or '03?) [3] IIRC, Billy & Benny McGuire were the "World's Fattest Twins". I know for certain one is dead as of several years ago - is the other still alive? Guinness used to show them side-by-side, riding motorcycles. [4] I remember the first time it happened. Warsaw has remained a population of roughly 15'000 residents and the county surges to 50'000 when the Lakers are there for the summer. This makes addresses reasonably familiar before you're dispatched. You know the clock is ticking and you're on tape with 911, but there's still this perverse race where you don't want to be the first one there. In these cases, it's best to have the fire department arrive because of their masks. Sam, the mailman, figures something is wrong because TIlly hasn't emptied her mailbox in over four days and there's no more room. He calls 911. Police, Fire, Ambulance all making the macabre run. The door opens and everything you've had to eat for four days along with turning your body inside-out, all the way down to your feet, happens by reflex - no gagging. Tilly lives alone - a widow. Her house sealed tight, to keep the heating bills low in the winter. She didn't have the luxury of air conditioning, so she's like my neighbors - who needs it? She goes upstairs, takes a nap, and dies in her sleep, either from natural causes or the heat. And the process of the body breaking down occurs. The easiest thing to do is pick up the body by the fewest number of layers of bed "clothing" and slide that into the body bag. There's no way to pick up pieces gracefully. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 22:09:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N39cdE017055 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:09:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:09:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064C6FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 23:09:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1430905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:09:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N39bLh025593 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:09:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so281653nzp for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.14 with SMTP id e14mr1216438nzb; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:09:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qg/gYBT2w/d8TBJ1MNR47j27gpetoGYoJy/SirvVy96O62urEi5kX5RG0HsO1K4/Opzc2OxWQ53zDsyS3qucBF0Gp9OpToIsYMj0qjvFuwKqp8JHnE/I4nSO8v9awJrF6m7wnVSfPorYqnUdpRRneEIa9K7cG/Izw2xXWPvdddQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052220092bba6662@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:09:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4N39cLh025595 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/12/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > It's way too early to tell. Oliver wanted to get acquainted with the new > kitten and as you note, he made the first moves, but not aggressively. That > seems to be a good sign. Nonetheless, there is a lot of tension in the first > few encounters---all of the sounds and body language are means of > establishing the rules. I don't believe that there is any set number of > encounters that defines the final relationship. I meant to tell you--last week, Oliver and Nanook rubbed noses. They were very mellow around each other. Nanook sniffed Oliver's butt, too. And today, Socks, the cute little black girl cat, came looking for him. It was in the upper 90's today, and will be for the rest of the week. My plan was to let Nanook out during the day, but I'm thinking now that I'm going to keep the current rhythm, where I let him out when he wakes me up, and then he comes in before I go to work. I let him out when I come home, and he comes in when it gets dark. (He's very funny chasing fireflies.) It's Just Too Hot. I don't think he poops outside, though, judging by the output in the litterbox. And he still takes dirt baths. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 22:21:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N3L2dE018498 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:21:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:21:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064C7C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 23:21:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1431196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:21:02 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N3L17u026339 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:21:01 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.115.93]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523032101.QMYS25726.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:21:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.115.93]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523032057.GBRC1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:20:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42914C13.7070703@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:20:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Graves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One good thing to come out of the weirdity with The Ghoul is that it reminded me of Find-a-Grave and the fun of taking pictures of graves. I've been putting lots of pictures of strangers' graves online tonight (am up past my bedtime -- am about to turn off the computer). But I'm wondering about something: One picture I took especially because I found the tennis shoe interesting. Is it in bad taste to put a picture of a grave with a tennis shoe online? It's already online, but I could of course remove it: http://tinyurl.com/cuqem -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 22:23:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N3MtdE018763 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:22:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:23:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064C60F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 23:22:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1431216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:22:54 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N3MsAe026429 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:22:54 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.115.93]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523032254.QNZS25726.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:22:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.115.93]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523032254.GBXN1498.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:22:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:22:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Those cheese sticks (strips?) go good with beer. We just opened and > shared > with a friend who stopped by. I like them. They have a nice delayed > bite. Oh good. They're cheese straws. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 22:45:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N3jTdE021476 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:45:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 22:45:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064C73F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 22 May 2005 23:45:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1431736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:45:24 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N3jO50027609; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:45:24 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 105464471; Sun, 22 May 2005 20:26:23 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:27:09 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie In-Reply-To: <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:22 PM 5/22/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>Those cheese sticks (strips?) go good with beer. We just opened and >>shared >>with a friend who stopped by. I like them. They have a nice delayed >>bite. > >Oh good. They're cheese straws. That's it! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 22 23:13:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N4DddE024812 for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:13:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 23:13:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064C871@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 0:13:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1434562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 00:13:39 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N4DcSM029976 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 00:13:39 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so726052wri for ; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.27.65 with SMTP id a65mr3715145wra; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sun, 22 May 2005 21:13:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JfrszlTMkz0D+irPsW+6xqK84IXU4uAuYoI5Z2TRGw79gylxfxkoyejlTf9o0qRA9BbUDg5KQc16a2ZwyEuXy6sGtX6arJvpALs3OMGMLQ9LM/2484XPSTHasGycH/pPpLBJ7P0iEBLxUVaJwVM2Ty5NEZ1u6g19iTVjxFT4OQo= Message-ID: <46227195050522211320deec9e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 23:13:38 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFTAL: Portable audio In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4N4DdSM029977 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/22/05, Bookrat wrote: > Thanks to a recent spate of unseasonably wet weather, I've concluded that > my goal of getting to the gym on a reasonably regular basis is just not > going to happen until I can find something in the way of an audio player to > keep my mind off the drudgery of the exercise machines. (The gym has four > TV screens presumably for that purpose, but I find the programs on them > generally unwatchable.) We go to Lifetime Fitness and they've got a nice setup. So I bought a cheap ($40-$45) Sony Walkman SRF-M80V (http://tinyurl.com/7m39v) there are probably better pictures but this popped up in froogle - lower prices as well. Anyway, the TV band is nice because there's ninety minutes of local news, thirty of national. The FM band comes in nice & clear and the 2nd floor, with the machines, is L-shaped and the ends of the two legs each have about ten large, projection TVs along with FM frequencies in the lower right hand corners. They pipe in the tv signals, then rebroadcast them internally on the FM band on frequencies which aren't used locally. If you're fairly close to them, you can obviously bike, hit the treadmills or the dreaded rowing fans whilst you watch. Oh. One of the things I noticed wasn't on the list of features: there's a little dial-like control which you can flip and it won't change the current state of on|off, channel, or band. That keeps everything from changing while you are working out as well as something bumping against the power button in whatever you store it in (I keep mine in my shoulder bag so I've got it with me all of the time). and the batteries aren't wasted. The problem is you get accustomed to that feature but the volume isn't protected so you can be halfway through a set and the volume dial is turned to an extreme.value. Anyway, that's what I've got and it works well for me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 02:27:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N7QxdE014710 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 02:27:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 02:27:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064C9BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 2:46:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1438913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 02:46:54 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N6kspa007196 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 02:46:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005052306465301400iakqpe>; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:46:54 +0000 Message-ID: <42917C5D.1070800@istori.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 23:46:53 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <1828628380.20050520093156@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> <4622719505052121422dde897@mail.gmail.com> <4290B05F.5010006@istori.com> <462271950505221708bb3c9d4@mail.gmail.com> <429124AC.8000508@istori.com> <4622719505052219291e78d172@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505052219291e78d172@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton writes, > I figured he had to be someone /s the sense of > smell or had a doc snip his olfactory nerve because of how much money > he could make without it. Neal Smither, Crime Scene Cleaners. The guy makes for good print, lots of profile articles in newspapers. He seems pretty impervious, but apparently two things give him the creeps: viscous, stretchy spit, and maggots. A guy named Alan Emmins wrote a book: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 03:38:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N8c7dE019366 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 03:38:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 03:38:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064C9EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 3:28:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1439467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 03:28:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N7S4rl009866 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 03:28:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so775484wri for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 00:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.74 with SMTP id e74mr3665977wra; Mon, 23 May 2005 00:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 00:28:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E/c8R2kYZheQzAnEJjGdeAnKv97MwIDBpXGyZcssS/ibNi2fZZFzdIVJOoRMOCbmNLcv637Mfy9+wojsEnsyU5OhHQBU37DFbsn/WI01JwnmVv7sHAQRWlC2NpO14V/T7R/8+nqgaMxdFrzkU88d1O+l9CgOLYMnrhJEruzqayo= Message-ID: <46227195050523002871365dde@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 02:28:04 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <42917C5D.1070800@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> <4622719505052121422dde897@mail.gmail.com> <4290B05F.5010006@istori.com> <462271950505221708bb3c9d4@mail.gmail.com> <429124AC.8000508@istori.com> <4622719505052219291e78d172@mail.gmail.com> <42917C5D.1070800@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4N7S4rl009867 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/23/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: ... > of profile articles in newspapers. He seems pretty impervious, but > apparently two things give him the creeps: viscous, stretchy spit, and ... I could comment on a game called "yo ho" involving how low one could let spit go before yanking it back up (and past the waist wasn't all that difficult), but I won't. la la la la la la la I could tell a story about a 12" oral clot, but I'll refrain from doing so. nice weather we're having, eh? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 04:47:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4N9kpdE000049 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 04:46:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 04:47:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064C951@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 5:16:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1441237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:16:50 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4N9Gn4g018682 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:16:50 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005052311150910121 ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:15:09 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 23 May 2005 11:16:48 +0200 Message-ID: <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:16:48 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Vesak - when? References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2005 09:16:48.0407 (UTC) FILETIME=[25C15A70:01C55F78] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv skrev 22.05.2005 17:43: > . > > Btw, isn't Vesak Day on the day when there is full moon? That is, > tomorrow? Is it different among different schools, or circles? It is > said, a candle offered on Vesak Day has the power of offering a thousand > candles. And promises made on the day have the power thousand times > bigger than that of a promise made on an ordinary day. Now, how should I > know on which day, today or tomorrow, I should offer a candle or make > an important promise? ;-) This is all as difficult as the various Christian Easters - or more so. But in any case, for Vesak-purposes the full moon was yesterday. But what should the relation between the full moon and Vesak Day be? And which year is this in Buddhist counting? This is Vesak year 2549 in Vietnam and Sri Lanka, 2548 in Thaland, and 2550 in some places in India. The Vesak Day was yesterday in Thailand and Vietnam. In Sri Lanka it is today while the Srilankan Buddhists in Norway celebrate Vesak on June 4. Confused yet? Oh, and in addition the Buddha's Light International Asociation organise a (Buddhist) ecumenical Vesak celebration in Oslo on May 29. In any case, here are a couple of photos from the celebration yesterday - therwe were only 50 participants, so I brought home a 10 litre bucket of fasolada. But there was lots of both joy and serenity. We zennists (to borrow a word) usually sit in quiet with no external influence (usually - there may be words from a teacher), but yesterday a local Tibetan Buddhist nun led the meditation and the sittings were introduced with flute music - similar to the Japanese bamboo flutes. And then there was a walking meditation - not as strict as a Zen-kinhin - and again the fulte was played at places through the forest. Magic! And then we fed them, and except for my clumsiness when I tried to boil 7 kilograms of rice (it got burned in the bottom) everyone was happy. http://www.buddhistforbundet.no/BFVesak2005-ref.shtml Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 05:21:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NAL7dE004468 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:21:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:21:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7ED86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 6:21:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1442753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:21:06 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NAL6Ih022858 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:21:06 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1911045wra for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 03:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.140.3 with SMTP id n3mr3476843wrd; Mon, 23 May 2005 03:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 03:21:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=t7sBorqAGirkBVaa3tkuyOj0bc1ZiXH382UEsGH02SPQ/wyIXgZNIotMtcse90TyEDZLg1MQN4IdaUhNKKX3LPJCh5X3p5i/I5sqwO0Zq/fyo9uyG3rut1vB2G9JgmYbsifd+t2ls9E7Qt5em1ZxPlE0qJAyyb45wyO4ce1W/ag= Message-ID: <8865866a05052303216ace3dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:21:04 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Vesak - when? In-Reply-To: <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NAL6Ih022859 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen, I'm so jealous. I'm very interested in Buddhism right now and would like to have some kind of guidance. I'll have to check to see if there is a group in Stockholm. Are you completely vegetarian and do you see Buddha as a god? Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 05:41:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NAeudE006723 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:40:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:41:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064CBAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 6:40:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1443188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:40:55 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4NAesTk024448 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:40:55 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005052312385410738 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:38:54 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 23 May 2005 12:40:31 +0200 Message-ID: <4291B31F.8020804@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:40:31 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Vesak - when? References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> <8865866a05052303216ace3dc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a05052303216ace3dc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2005 10:40:32.0104 (UTC) FILETIME=[D81CAE80:01C55F83] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen skrev 23.05.2005 12:21: >Espen, > >I'm so jealous. I'm very interested in Buddhism right now and would >like to have some kind of guidance. I'll have to check to see if there >is a group in Stockholm. > > I am sure there are quite a few groups in Stockholm! >Are you completely vegetarian and do you see Buddha as a god? > > > a) No, I am not a vegetarian. And neither are most Buddhists, I believe. But it seems that many western people either turn into vegatarians if they become Buddhists, or they were vegetrians already. Of coure I might be influenced from the Japanese Zen: here even monks may eat meat, drink alcohol and get married - quite a leap from Theravada monks in Thailand or Sri Lanka. But really, in countries which are mainly Buddhist countries (Buddhism is the state religion in Thailand), people eat meat. And the rules for monks and nuns (in Theravada) are that they are not supposed to eat meat if the animal was killed for their sake, but OTOH they are supposed to accept what is offered to them when they do their begging rounds (this is theory, I expect that people in Thalaind or Sri Lanka will not give monks meat (and there are no nuns there)). b) According to the traditional Buddhistic world view to be born as a god is one of the possible five or six worlds where one can be born. And according to the traditions, it is only when you are born as a human that you can reach nirvana, so even if the gods live a long and happy life, finally they die and should hope to be reborn as humans. In practice (and as you and Torkel reported) you will find that people behave towards Sakyamuni Buddha and various boddhisatvas just as people in other religions behave towards their gods. So to follow this confusing word and term translation game: we have "gods" which are living a happy life, but who have to be reborn as humans to get further on, and we have Sakyamuni who strictly speaking is supposed to be out of contact with everything since his parinirvana, although you can build up spritual merit from venerating his relics etc., and then especially in Mahayana we have the boddhisatvas where some of them (like Amidha) rule over paradise like worlds (Amidha's Pure Land for instance). But at least in theory, even this kind of pure land is only supposed to be step up the ladder from where you will be able to enter nirvana. Er - what was your question again? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:09:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NB8kdE010534 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:08:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:09:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7EE07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 7:08:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1443590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:08:45 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NB8jcd017922 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:08:45 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 94408886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:07:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4291BAA6.4030709@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 07:12:38 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Commencement Day ... References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> <8865866a05052303216ace3dc@mail.gmail.com> <4291B31F.8020804@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4291B31F.8020804@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ... or "Fun With Graduates". Boston College Commencement is today. For the first time there will be a procession of graduates from the front entrance of the campus to the stadium where the main ceremony will be held. I can't wait to see how this plays. It is currently 46 degrees F. and the predicted high for the day is 54 degrees F. The ceremonies will all be held outdoors. The procession of graduates will involve having roughly 2000 of them find their way along a route involving about 100 stairs, after a weekend of partying. Watch some of it, if you like on either the O'Neill Plaza or the Gasson Quad webcams. The ceremony starts at 10:00 a.m. EDT. The procession should begin around 9:15 or so. http://www.bc.edu/publications/atbc/webcams/oneill/ http://www.bc.edu/publications/atbc/webcams/gasson/ The ceremony itself, will be webcast. There is a link to that at http://www.bc.edu/offices/commencement/ Dr. Paul Farmer (Mountains Beyond Mountains) is the speaker. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:24:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NBOkdE012909 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:24:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:24:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7EE44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 7:24:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1444099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:24:32 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NBOVEF019784 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:24:32 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4NBOSdK017285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 13:24:28 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j4NBOSf6017283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 13:24:28 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:24:28 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFTAL: Portable audio Message-ID: <20050523112428.GA17202@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Also, and separate from the above, the earbud-type earphones that seem to = be standard nowadays generally don't work for me, so I'm also looking for = "regular" earphone recommendations. = = Ken Miller = Maynor School of Inquiry I have these: http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=004917 (but I certainly didn't pay $35 for them) No in-ear headphones work for me unless they clip on somehow, so I went for these dj-style ones. I use them for listening to the radio in bed, so I'm not sure how good they'll be for moving around and staying on. What's nice is there's only one wire - the right ear is wired through the neck piece. Also, since they fit fine, it's fine that they're not adjustable. But, they're not adjustable. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 06:24:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NBOkdE012908 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:24:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:24:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7EE6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 7:14:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1443770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:14:46 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NBEkTo018520 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:14:46 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.9]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523111445.ESAX2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:14:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.9]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523111445.FYIA9421.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:14:45 -0400 Message-ID: <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 06:14:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What are your plans for today, BB, your first Monday of retirement? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:22:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NCMjdE019403 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:22:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:22:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7EF81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 8:22:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1446391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:22:44 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NCMiZ6025570 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:22:44 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:22:44 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:22:07 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: to all who celebrate it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Victoria Day BrP From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:26:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NCQ5dE019793 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:26:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:26:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064CCB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 8:26:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1446490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:26:03 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NCQ35h025921 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:26:03 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-22.gwi.net [216.195.167.22]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4NCPxjo027805; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:26:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050523082513.01bf1950@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:25:59 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Commencement Day ... In-Reply-To: <4291BAA6.4030709@bc.edu> References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> <8865866a05052303216ace3dc@mail.gmail.com> <4291B31F.8020804@gmail.com> <4291BAA6.4030709@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:12 AM 5/23/2005, Rita Leonard wrote: >... or "Fun With Graduates". > >Boston College Commencement is today. For the first time there will be >a procession of graduates from the front entrance of the campus to the >stadium where the main ceremony will be held. I can't wait to see how >this plays. If you are having weather as are we (slow, unrelenting rain), it ought to be a real hoot. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:39:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NCdHdE021360 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:39:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:39:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064CD85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 8:39:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1446926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:39:16 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NCdGFB027355 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:39:16 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-22.gwi.net [216.195.167.22]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4NCdA0o010867; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:39:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050523082648.01bf2490@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:33:09 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052220092bba6662@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052220092bba6662@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:09 PM 5/22/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I meant to tell you--last week, Oliver and Nanook rubbed noses. They >were very mellow around each other. Nanook sniffed Oliver's butt, too. >And today, Socks, the cute little black girl cat, came looking for >him. Excellent. He's now part of the (at least the immediate) neighborhood. >It was in the upper 90's today, and will be for the rest of the week. >My plan was to let Nanook out during the day, but I'm thinking now >that I'm going to keep the current rhythm, where I let him out when he >wakes me up, and then he comes in before I go to work. I let him out >when I come home, and he comes in when it gets dark. (He's very funny >chasing fireflies.) Sounds like he's fairly happy with that routine. >I don't think he poops outside, though, judging by the output in the >litterbox. Apparently, this takes time---first, to recognize that such a thing is possible; second, to feel secure. >And he still takes dirt baths. Probably always will. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:55:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NCsrdE023116 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:54:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:55:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064CBCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 8:40:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1446949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:40:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NCebYS027432 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:40:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so878803wri for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.13 with SMTP id n13mr3273119wra; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:40:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hIYTmzThrU1fB13Gw/mL8QpBnauwJuCEZ373n6XWPnaOq2QqH/ixSavxk2pqVDTERmpbOa1V9CQds6a3mxBlVbQhu6Yh5iQHXW75u5HVgqjJXOFGd7yRROvtu+BpD82A+0CmOjZIqjYLnfdTK3ZtY6YqqLIS+klTOv18jHY2cjo= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:40:36 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Graves In-Reply-To: <42914C13.7070703@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42914C13.7070703@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4NCsrdE023116 I think that is very strange. Why didn't you move the shoe before you took the picture? On 5/22/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > One good thing to come out of the weirdity with The Ghoul is that it > reminded me of Find-a-Grave and the fun of taking pictures of graves. > I've been putting lots of pictures of strangers' graves online tonight > (am up past my bedtime -- am about to turn off the computer). But I'm > wondering about something: One picture I took especially because I > found the tennis shoe interesting. Is it in bad taste to put a picture > of a grave with a tennis shoe online? It's already online, but I could > of course remove it: > > http://tinyurl.com/cuqem > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:55:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NCsrdE023115 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:54:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:55:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064CBDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 8:46:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1447158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:46:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NCkooT028078 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:46:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so2270151nzk for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.42.13 with SMTP id p13mr1261000nzp; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:46:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q1Zz1agGFhzNU/6f5NhV7ZbqOgHghMHEXGDmESE6aRnBtwZQuBLpbbFRJC+6LSdHuAiUg65Ks/mpuy/WeycZimPbCvmmE55xLmT5I8QmYnzYaKTOnH79w+GNe1nHZpebg0AfbpJzC4oz9/gsKEK5MpoQ4MN/FmzHStUCqao2MCg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050523054671a598ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 07:46:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050523082648.01bf2490@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052220092bba6662@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050523082648.01bf2490@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NCkooT028080 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/23/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Excellent. He's now part of the (at least the immediate) neighborhood. Yes--and he's been going at least next door on both sides. I just looked at the vet record, and the woman who adopted him called him Indiana Jones. Very appropriate (even though it's not really his name). > >My plan was to let Nanook out during the day, but I'm thinking now > >that I'm going to keep the current rhythm, where I let him out when he > >wakes me up, and then he comes in before I go to work. I let him out > >when I come home, and he comes in when it gets dark. (He's very funny > >chasing fireflies.) > > Sounds like he's fairly happy with that routine. As long as I spend sufficient time rubbing his face and ears, he's happy. He's pretty easy to negotiate with. > >I don't think he poops outside, though, judging by the output in the > >litterbox. > > Apparently, this takes time---first, to recognize that such a thing is > possible; second, to feel secure. Thanks. This boggles my mind. > >And he still takes dirt baths. > > Probably always will. Oh yes. As things go, this is pretty innocuous. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 07:55:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NCstdE023122 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:54:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:55:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064CC0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 8:54:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1447659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:54:55 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NCstnd029241 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:54:55 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so884382wri for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.135.7 with SMTP id i7mr4065203wrd; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 05:54:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HZg2urVc0piyqa9EK5oVQwvxPwiYgx6QH/ZRwBJfQJ+VF0KSYNAugAwU1BRfXFfYA7JHqBPypJPA0eu7IDkYZd8lLl4bCr0CMm6dRXTyaFG3KTOZ3PMzBrayfKVnQRclukSfopoWgai9Vk02l2HeC8jEWAIZ6A0rUqqMgJ9XpUs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:54:52 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050523054671a598ab@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052220092bba6662@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050523082648.01bf2490@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a7050523054671a598ab@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4NCstdE023122 > > > >I don't think he poops outside, though, judging by the output in the > > >litterbox. > > > > Apparently, this takes time---first, to recognize that such a thing is > > possible; second, to feel secure. > > Thanks. This boggles my mind. > Karen > Our Sara has never figured out that the great outdoors is permitted as a personal litter box even though one of the older cats has squatted and peed outside in her line of vision. Nor will she poop in her litter box. She makes a tidy pile right next to it on the cement basement floor. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:15:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NDFmdE026352 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:15:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:15:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064CDE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 9:05:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1448355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ND5hZh031061 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:05:44 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.9]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523130543.YCEK2010.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:05:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.9]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523130534.FWWZ8439.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:05:34 -0400 Message-ID: <4291D51A.7080504@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:05:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Graves References: <42914C13.7070703@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >I think that is very strange. Why didn't you move the shoe before you took >the picture? > > The shoe was the reason I decided to take that particular picture. I could have taken a better picture of the graves themselves by not including the shoe -- by taking it from between the shoe and the graves. But I liked the shoe. I wondered whether lovers were caught in the act and fled, leaving one shoe behind, or whether somebody was wandering amongst graves in the dead of night and suddenly was pursued by a ghost, causing her (it appeared to be a her size) to start running, losing a shoe, or what. Since tennis shoes don't fall off easily, I'm thinking the idea of lovers makes more sense. She grabbed her clothes and one shoe but dropped the other shoe. Or maybe it was simply a matter of somebody wanting to walk bare-footed for a while and somehow dropping one of the shoes she was carrying. Or maybe a dog dragged a shoe from somebody's house and carried it to the cemetery. I wonder whether the dead people heard him playing with it near their graves -- like "Ah, Are You Digging On My Grave?" -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:48:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NDmVdE031517 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:48:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:48:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064CD2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 9:48:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1451381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:48:30 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NDmUdZ004472; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:48:30 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 62846488; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:48:29 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050523062521.027349a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 06:49:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie In-Reply-To: <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:14 AM 5/23/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >What are your plans for today, BB, your first Monday of retirement? > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Good morning! I'm just having my first cup of coffee. I am usually at the gym now. I plan to walk or bike to Hercules to see if I can find out who gave me this gift certificate so that I can properly thank them. It has my name and the owner of the store but not the giver's name, however, it does have a number so I'm hoping to find out. Larry just reported that one of my bike tires is flat so I'll walk. (I received a pedometer for a gift, too.) It's a beautiful day. The hummingbirds are active at my feeder. One or two were here all winter. Yesterday I picked up a couple of books-"Stairway Walks in San Francisco" by Adah Bakalinsky and a Falcon Guide "Walking San Francisco." There are so many places to explore and enjoy. I expect that sometimes Larry will join me and other times I will go by myself. I already have camping guides, etc. for the coast and northern California. We are leaving for a more extended stay in Monterey Thursday morning so I'll be preparing and packing for that, too. I wished that you would have gotten a photo of the person giving me two bottles of Trader Joe's Chilean Collection Cabernet Sauvignon Merlot. I remember accepting it and putting it down but I can't remember who gave it to me. :-( I appreciate the other action shots you got! Projects planned around here but no hurry. I'm not going to rush out and volunteer any place right away or start another career. It has to all sink in. What are you up to? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 08:48:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NDmZdE031531 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:48:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:48:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064CEE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 9:48:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1451389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:48:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NDmYrR004492 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:48:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1584196nzf for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.24.7 with SMTP id 7mr1395171nzx; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:48:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dDFSMWO/UhemUR0qx6mem2zS90/N+Suf9o1f3usBX3H8jphRShbGwiQSs9Qo2T8pNlWC1hF7Sv6lrqqQU3l3fPcRVgdva6q9lsLe7EBIDy3Gk/HA5/TfkeUWlYniKP1CrfpiwFCzw1uy2CFrT+/NrV54BMo4z/RMckl1siVuKOE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:48:33 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Ben In-Reply-To: <42907096.20900@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42907096.20900@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NDmYrR004493 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A column saying that giving the USM pres another year is a bad move: Sheesh. I agree. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:04:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NE4DdE001006 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:04:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:04:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064CE7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:04:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1452275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:04:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NE4CME006611 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:04:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so479747nzp for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.19 with SMTP id m19mr1281671nzm; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:04:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rZKWdTRBAdKCzCR2P5gShV5e0emYiCqh+2x23Y3aLro2mSBaCOTxwvXtAyxqiZlYO2BTVFrCSz0Em+6Ylo8xEqvXRJKifohr5B4PyDZh2/+Vp+qhCMbtmGtoqilaM3Byx4z0Hxo9/3OPGsoRGceo7uT2OnyHjH9QGWfJ2fdNYMQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050523070439768b62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:04:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052220092bba6662@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050523082648.01bf2490@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a7050523054671a598ab@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NE4DME006612 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/23/05, bonniemaev wrote: > Our Sara has never figured out that the great outdoors is permitted as a > personal litter box even though one of the older cats has squatted and peed > outside in her line of vision. Nor will she poop in her litter box. She > makes a tidy pile right next to it on the cement basement floor. Why do you keep this cat? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:26:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NEPtdE003990 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:25:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:26:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064CF1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:20:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1453863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:20:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NEKQcf009771 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:20:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so488731nzp for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.12 with SMTP id b12mr56758nzd; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:20:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z5SO0Q/zIjbDEUqvh+qii/3+qCmsK9KsyifppAR1qYAjmnUlWukWKPmAof9GH8aNwIwIFrKwN8LYLIq4BUwuPABZ3i1MQaHW7pLJrZzoIsatIn0lfmoTjo5KQ24qIqoeEv7Ibxx26JxzjI47NX2Pih8dZyIULDm+X9cC3aKi1zs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052307201a075e88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:20:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052220092bba6662@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050523082648.01bf2490@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a7050523054671a598ab@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050523070439768b62@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NEKRcf009772 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/23/05, bonniemaev wrote: > Why does one keep any cat? Because they are good, furry alarm clocks. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:26:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NEPtdE003986 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:25:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:26:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064CDFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:15:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1453304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:15:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NEFtFl008647 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:15:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so1679416nzp for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.31.15 with SMTP id e15mr1230376nze; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.19 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:15:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eNb4PRlHIDZOQr2qWedZzdgB/LBA62wObBXIrZ1/e6o3g9mckS4g1rjVO8rNswFA16Oia/DLzx4clqveCFG/NixusFSKTaeD2VJ90kCrAc7x8mBUHSliaSmi/AczBBzK5hKAGezm7oI7omuoE3XXSNfNrUJ4QGgSyn3eaU5wdok= Message-ID: <9453932705052307154f2e4095@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 07:15:54 -0700 From: Larry Clark Reply-To: Larry Clark To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie In-Reply-To: <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NEFtFl008649 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/23/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > What are your plans for today, BB, your first Monday of retirement? > It's a beautiful morning here and at this moment Betty is enjoying breakfast on the patio. I am "fasting" in preparation for a blood test this morning. I want coffee. Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:26:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NEPtdE003989 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:25:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:26:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064CE11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:19:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1453795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:19:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NEJNAY009567 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:19:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so922402wri for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.83.5 with SMTP id g5mr3349508wrb; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=P8o2oWT22uJWDYBB+OaE2gihTDpoCExCgUQ1ODqKlLv4LqXMal7O/L3C3Eb5d8+MzhDrDlrNW+5c2Gp3F4PpuY9rSxuWx4+jv8btScCIrVhaURUWcMQpLXZp+2nni0bK/w46RARGqQWSgz+9yP+T2TmPnKm6OpkD+WKFZwR7CU0= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:19:23 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050523070439768b62@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052220092bba6662@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050523082648.01bf2490@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a7050523054671a598ab@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050523070439768b62@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4NEPtdE003989 > > > Our Sara has never figured out that the great outdoors is permitted as a > > personal litter box even though one of the older cats has squatted and > peed > > outside in her line of vision. Nor will she poop in her litter box. She > > makes a tidy pile right next to it on the cement basement floor. > > Why do you keep this cat? > Karen I don't know. Why does one keep any cat? The pooping outside the box isn't really a problem to me. It's no different than picking up poop after a dog. Smaller, in fact. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:26:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NEPtdF003990 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:26:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:26:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064CF1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:20:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1453895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:20:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NEKvvk009869 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:20:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2173543wri for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.54 with SMTP id o54mr2881307wro; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:20:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WoQEKEdFiHl4ln9o27LI9+kFyMHhMTtMSCMRWYz/syieD6wiZit3hPogcexXR+SkjxwwncHXQTDcsRZX1F3TM48G+rR/1Qt7XP1jXfGd/fFD9TODveuRGBnk4+4Kbv8IGEWKrs9BGH6T9DijublpPrZsOwavn3U7FoLMuyv3PrA= Message-ID: <83db447a05052307207aa5d4a6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:20:57 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Commencement Day ... In-Reply-To: <4291BAA6.4030709@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> <8865866a05052303216ace3dc@mail.gmail.com> <4291B31F.8020804@gmail.com> <4291BAA6.4030709@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4NEPtdF003990 On 5/23/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > > Watch some of it, if you like on either the O'Neill Plaza or the Gasson > Quad webcams. The ceremony starts at 10:00 a.m. EDT. The procession > should begin around 9:15 or so. Damn! I missed it. Gasson is spookily empty right now cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:36:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NEacdE005224 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:36:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:36:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064D00B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:27:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1454477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:27:33 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NERXL8011044 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:27:33 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.9]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523142733.IPKO2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:27:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.9]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523142732.EBAI8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:27:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4291E850.5040205@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:27:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> <9453932705052307154f2e4095@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9453932705052307154f2e4095@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry Clark wrote: > It's a beautiful morning here and at this moment Betty is enjoying >breakfast on the patio. I am "fasting" in preparation for a blood test >this morning. > > Ugh. It was wise of you to make Betty eat outside. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:36:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NEacdE005222 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:36:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:36:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064CF56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:26:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1454423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:26:38 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NEQc6u010877 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:26:38 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.9]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523142638.IOAT2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:26:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.9]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523142637.EAQL8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:26:37 -0400 Message-ID: <4291E819.20904@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:26:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523062521.027349a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050523062521.027349a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > I wished that you would have gotten a photo of the person giving me two > bottles of Trader Joe's Chilean Collection Cabernet Sauvignon Merlot. I > remember accepting it and putting it down but I can't remember who > gave it Do you remember how early or late in the party it might have been? I have a vague memory of your being handed wine by the late-arriving bearded man -- the last person to arrive at the party, I think. But I feel sure that he was not the only person who handed you wine. > What are you up to? I'm being picked up at 11:30 by an elderly woman who lives not far from here and with whom I have exchanged e-mail and talked on the phone but not gotten together. We established communication because of my uncle's atrocious computer situation -- as in a spam filter that does not allow e-mail from about 90% of the servers in the world. He sent me e-mail and asked me to call this person several months ago because he was worried about her since not having heard from her. It turned out that she had changed ISPs and that his picky ISP wouldn't accept mail from hers. Anyway, she and I are going out to lunch today. (She and my uncle were good friends in high school or college or both.) Being on a genealogy roll right now (they come and go), I may go to the state archives this afternoon and look at various microfilm. Or I may go swimming. Or I may do both. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:39:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NEdhdE005604 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:39:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:39:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064D04A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:39:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1455602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:39:43 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NEdgDT013675 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:39:42 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-22.gwi.net [216.195.167.22]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4NEdbjo048424; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:39:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050523103903.01bfbe58@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:39:38 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie In-Reply-To: <9453932705052307154f2e4095@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> <9453932705052307154f2e4095@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:15 AM 5/23/2005, Larry Clark wrote: >On 5/23/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > What are your plans for today, BB, your first Monday of retirement? > > > > It's a beautiful morning here and at this moment Betty is enjoying >breakfast on the patio. I am "fasting" in preparation for a blood test >this morning. Here's hoping the results are favorable. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:40:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NEdxdE005646 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:40:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:40:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064CE90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:39:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1455620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:39:58 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NEdvjW013725; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:39:58 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 62859879; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:39:57 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050523073354.026877e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 07:40:54 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie In-Reply-To: <4291E819.20904@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523062521.027349a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291E819.20904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:26 AM 5/23/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>I wished that you would have gotten a photo of the person giving me two >>bottles of Trader Joe's Chilean Collection Cabernet Sauvignon Merlot. I >>remember accepting it and putting it down but I can't remember who >>gave it > >Do you remember how early or late in the party it might have been? I >have a vague memory of your being handed wine by the late-arriving >bearded man -- the last person to arrive at the party, I think. But I >feel sure that he was not the only person who handed you wine. No, he brought a bag of broccoli and a ten pack of small stick matches. It was much earlier. About the time Myles and Maureen came, I think. I put them down so I could hug Myles. Maybe it was Myles? It seems rude to run around asking people after the fact if they were the ones who brought that wine. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:48:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NElddE006514 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:47:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:48:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7F3AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:47:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1456409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:47:38 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NElcDP015482 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:47:38 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F7F3E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:47:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200505231447.j4NElcDP015482@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:47:38 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 23 May 2005 07:40:54 -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: It seems rude to run >around asking people after the fact if they were the ones who brought that >wine. > >Betty Yes -- and some would perhaps not be quite as considerate of their guests. This is a hallmark of a true hostess! Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 09:49:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NEnidE006715 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:49:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:49:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064CFCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:49:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1456592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:49:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NEnh2o016033 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:49:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so937266wri for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.148.12 with SMTP id v12mr3960004wrd; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.65.6 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 07:49:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W5HPWZFZj+8sMWpqPOFFR+pL6qdRvdwQvg8oLHTqndEshyf33Zroe2w/56JTdLgS42lgou81K7gOA8AOUI3Y6KBGV9b2LijH/zpNEOrqh9AwlA3FuUx+U2gd/FfFd1HmHo9eau/ML4JvUWtpaCq09E4KiZU6eappziXv3dIIfbQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:49:43 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confrontation In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052307201a075e88@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050512092718df89fb@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05051210121c265300@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052220092bba6662@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050523082648.01bf2490@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a7050523054671a598ab@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050523070439768b62@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052307201a075e88@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4NEnidE006715 > > bonniemaev wrote: > > Why does one keep any cat? > > Because they are good, furry alarm clocks. > Karen > I guess that wouldn't be a very good reason for me, given that I don't need an alarm clock. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:14:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NFEbdE010548 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:14:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:14:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064D01C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:04:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1457888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:04:36 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NF4aI0020114 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:04:36 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.9]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523150435.CUTV5832.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:04:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.9]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523150436.GTFL23538.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:04:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4291F0FD.2030805@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:04:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523062521.027349a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291E819.20904@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523073354.026877e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050523073354.026877e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > No, he brought a bag of broccoli and a ten pack of small stick > matches. It That's right! I remember the arrival of broccoli now. > It seems rude to run > around asking people after the fact if they were the ones who brought > that > wine. Have you tried process of elimination -- thinking of what everybody else brought and seeing who is not accounted for? That might jog your memory to confirm the identification. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:22:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NFMWdE011528 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:22:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:22:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F7F576@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:22:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1459709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:22:32 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NFMVnB023459; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:22:31 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 62870901; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:22:30 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050523082250.02680a10@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:23:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie In-Reply-To: <200505231447.j4NElcDP015482@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505231447.j4NElcDP015482@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:47 AM 5/23/2005, Mrs. Williams wrote: >On Mon, 23 May 2005 07:40:54 -0700, Betty F Clark wrote: > >It seems rude to run > >around asking people after the fact if they were the ones who brought that > >wine. > > > >Betty > >Yes -- and some would perhaps not be quite as considerate of their guests. > >This is a hallmark of a true hostess! > > >Amy Thank you. I'm just going to enjoy it and toast everyone. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:34:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NFY8dE013256 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:34:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:34:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064CFA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:24:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1459790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:24:08 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NFO794023681; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:24:07 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 62871298; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:24:06 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050523082334.0274b9e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:25:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie In-Reply-To: <4291F0FD.2030805@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523062521.027349a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291E819.20904@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523073354.026877e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291F0FD.2030805@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:04 AM 5/23/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>No, he brought a bag of broccoli and a ten pack of small stick >>matches. It > >That's right! I remember the arrival of broccoli now. > >> It seems rude to run >>around asking people after the fact if they were the ones who brought >>that >>wine. > >Have you tried process of elimination -- thinking of what everybody else >brought and seeing who is not accounted for? That might jog your memory >to confirm the identification. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Heavens, no! I didn't want or expect gifts. I should have put that on the invitation but as I said, I'm just going to enjoy it and not worry any longer. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:34:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NFY8dE013255 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:34:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:34:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064D0C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:31:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1460224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:31:50 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NFVnAS024796 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:31:49 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.9]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523153149.OJLH2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:31:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.9]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523153149.QEKA15910.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:31:49 -0400 Message-ID: <4291F75A.4060406@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:31:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523062521.027349a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291E819.20904@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523073354.026877e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291F0FD.2030805@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523082334.0274b9e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050523082334.0274b9e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > Heavens, no! I didn't want or expect gifts. I should have put that on > the I'm sure that nobody thought you wanted or expected gifts, but I bet most people brought something anyway. Often people bring little gifts to any kind of party. > invitation but as I said, I'm just going to enjoy it and not worry any > longer. I don't always do after-the-fact thank-yous for things like wine brought to my house to a party. I think on-the-spot thanking is sufficient for that kind of thing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:46:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NFkQdE015065 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:46:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:46:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064CFFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:46:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1461283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:46:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NFkPS8028615 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:46:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2210443wri for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.141.10 with SMTP id o10mr952314wrd; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.46 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:46:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bJ0Gi8oMXw7hmAvAxNIwhIIo3MhvRHWeSXPKdMjmL8zcgXeXAvqHcw40+P23bguTbtNzIf+fB+j6OvGdR1GCgA53mT+foOE1NLMjLaHPk6qzTHYSSMDJvVgoQWe3tp/C7qEzTVkkKXZEMintAdmc+wH3Aw20D7DkWReNTRGdeFY= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:46:25 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags In-Reply-To: <42917C5D.1070800@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> <4622719505052121422dde897@mail.gmail.com> <4290B05F.5010006@istori.com> <462271950505221708bb3c9d4@mail.gmail.com> <429124AC.8000508@istori.com> <4622719505052219291e78d172@mail.gmail.com> <42917C5D.1070800@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4NFkQdE015065 Have you seen "Curdled" ? http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=60034047&trkid=181026 Marie On 5/23/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > phil paxton writes, > > > I figured he had to be someone /s the sense of > > smell or had a doc snip his olfactory nerve because of how much money > > he could make without it. > > Neal Smither, Crime Scene Cleaners. The guy makes for good print, lots > of profile articles in newspapers. He seems pretty impervious, but > apparently two things give him the creeps: viscous, stretchy spit, and > maggots. > > A guy named Alan Emmins wrote a book: . > > Pete > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 10:48:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NFmEdE015278 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:48:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 10:48:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F7F5ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:48:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1461413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:48:09 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NFm9Aj028919 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:48:09 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4NFm87U000737 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:48:08 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 ([131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4NFkZLT004807 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:46:36 -0400 Message-ID: <024001c55fae$9a572dc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Fw: the cons of bras Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:46:35 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 'Of interest? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 11:06 AM Subject: the cons of bras > Good Morning! > > A health conscious woman friend passed this on to me. It may be of > interest to some women... -DN > > > > http://www.spiritofchange.org/fa050605a.shtml From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:00:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NG0MdE016920 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:00:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:00:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064D141@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:50:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1461994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:50:21 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NFoLn4029459 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:50:21 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.9]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523155021.KRPL2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:50:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.9]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523155021.KLQX9421.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4291FBB8.9090902@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:50:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Natalie References: <8ddfc8a70505131413443ef8b9@mail.gmail.com> <20050514074246.GA32247@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522182217.026e39c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42914C89.5080106@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050522202619.02779710@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291BB20.4010204@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523062521.027349a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291E819.20904@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523073354.026877e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291F0FD.2030805@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523082334.0274b9e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4291F75A.4060406@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4291F75A.4060406@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't always do after-the-fact thank-yous for things like wine brought > to my house to a party. I think on-the-spot thanking is sufficient for Make "don't always" "almost never." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:07:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NG7jdE018094 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:07:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:07:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064D26D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:07:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1463405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:07:45 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NG7gMX032647 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:07:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so556499nzp for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.12 with SMTP id b12mr106388nzd; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rfKPKc/scO98CDJOG16CbWu+YB+QltWABLrXcTxLjd4tVpS5kHh7gxRXiQEKUE7rTQqOkopSW8MtgZhzl9K3Z3pDvC1rykz+9kJxClZHBDxqoa2TQpvzaVZ3vMWmFjGbMjD/p2SdFfchghWqhK6XlFE2+t5fIPqcolRpQw+urMI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052309076984fbfb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:07:42 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fw: the cons of bras In-Reply-To: <024001c55fae$9a572dc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <024001c55fae$9a572dc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NG7gMX032649 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Old news. On 5/23/05, Alan Wild wrote: > 'Of interest? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 11:06 AM > Subject: the cons of bras > > > > Good Morning! > > > > A health conscious woman friend passed this on to me. It may be of > > interest to some women... -DN > > > > > > > > http://www.spiritofchange.org/fa050605a.shtml > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:37:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NGbldE022850 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:37:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:37:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064D1E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:17:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1463980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:17:46 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NGHkOq001590 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:17:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:17:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:17:13 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Fw: the cons of bras Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU there's been a lot of discussion of this on the Profem list. I haven't read much of it. BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 5/23/2005 11:46:35 AM >>> 'Of interest? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 11:06 AM Subject: the cons of bras > Good Morning! > > A health conscious woman friend passed this on to me. It may be of > interest to some women... -DN > > > > http://www.spiritofchange.org/fa050605a.shtml From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 11:46:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NGkKdE023932 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:46:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 11:46:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064D17E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:46:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1466030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:46:19 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NGkJIk005509 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 12:46:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005052316461601300eounue>; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:46:16 +0000 Message-ID: <429208D7.4090407@istori.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:46:15 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CDs and plastic bags References: <8ddfc8a705051914528f16e73@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505200831685b42d2@mail.gmail.com> <991649868.20050520094108@gailndan.com> <428E132C.3060105@istori.com> <4622719505052121422dde897@mail.gmail.com> <4290B05F.5010006@istori.com> <462271950505221708bb3c9d4@mail.gmail.com> <429124AC.8000508@istori.com> <4622719505052219291e78d172@mail.gmail.com> <42917C5D.1070800@istori.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber writes, > Have you seen "Curdled" ? No, I have kids, I only see cartoons. ;-) So, the funny thing is that it was Reb Braddock's "Curdled" story which inspired Quentin Tarantino's "Winston Wolf" character in "Pulp Fiction." And the Wolf is what inspired Neal Smither to start Crime Scene Cleaners. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 13:56:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NIuedE009741 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 13:56:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 13:56:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064D5CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 14:46:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1474210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 14:46:40 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NIkdCO023500 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 14:46:39 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 92649875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 14:45:19 -0400 Message-ID: <4292250F.3010006@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:46:39 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Commencement Day ... References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> <8865866a05052303216ace3dc@mail.gmail.com> <4291B31F.8020804@gmail.com> <4291BAA6.4030709@bc.edu> <83db447a05052307207aa5d4a6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05052307207aa5d4a6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > Damn! I missed it. Gasson is spookily empty right now > cwv > > :-) The whole morning was pretty spooky. As far as I am aware, nobody died or was injured in any of the proceedings. We did nearly freeze to death, though. It was drizzly and cold throughout. We just don't have a good way to do Commencement in imperfect weather. Not a pretty end to a very expensive several years of study for the students (and parents). Oh, well. There's always next year. Rita L. 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Biogenerics Limited (BIGN) recently announced that the company has completed well #1 with positive results! At the same time the company announced news of new producing and non-producing resource acquisitions. Since our last update the company has made positive gains and is now up nearly 100% from the recent forward split price of $0.10! BIGN has made consistent positive gains for weeks now and the Energy Stock Watcher is anticipating further positive gains as new continues to come forward on development of the reserves coming into play.

Thursday May 18
BIGN, has demonstrated strong shareholder value over the past several weeks. Watch it closely and add it to your radar now! 

More Breaking News for BIGN! 
Aggressive investors and traders should look at Biogenerics Lmt. (BIGN) immediately! BIGN has just announced the commencement of a new drilling program using the proprietary Hydroslotter technology which shows tremendous promise to expand existing well production!

This could be great news for investors! 

On May 18 Biogenerics announced that Hydroslotter Corporation has completed analysis of an initial target well in Grimes, California and the Joint Venture will commence, utilizing the hydroslotting proprietary technology to maximize well potential.

The target well is located in the West Grimes Gas Field, in the Sacramento Basin, in Colusa County, California. It is a shut-in well that was originally drilled in 1986 and encountered potential gas pay in one of many intervals in the Forbes Formation. A total of 380 MMCF gas was originally extracted from only one zone (avg. 300 MCFD). Geologically, the West Grimes gas field is one of a number of deep-marine depositional environments in the Forbes Sandstone Formation.

Biogenerics is focusing on five different behind-pipe potential pay zones. The analysis has shown that several of these behind-pipe zones have large quantities of additional gas. Numerous wells in this immediate area have produced out of these other Forbes Formation zones at very prolific flow rates (up to 4,000 MCFD), have yielded excellent per well reserves (up to 5 BCF per well), and have long productive well lives.

Independent Analysts See Oil Prices Reaching U.S. $105 Per Barrel!

BIGN deserves a hard look as one of the emerging oil and gas leaders. They have set their sights on developing strong reserves and have done so without going into debt or toxic financing. Exploration should soon produce strong revenue growth and when that happens this stock could take off!  

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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 16:12:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NLCqdE027197 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:12:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:12:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064D73D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 17:02:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1484811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 17:02:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NL2pcv011721 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 17:02:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so725685nzp for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 14:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.14 with SMTP id e14mr1479285nzb; Mon, 23 May 2005 14:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 14:02:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=s/cZB6QG7D9Eia4Ifk1eJJpuLaLrTLSK3GqsxkQot9qygsDTdIIgn7krQegbhocByuEOb9ZP+HMdlgtPBHRg/aoO8TaJO/S8xw4ENb8Hfbzd+RP8vOKCgVpIGTy5CdfdeYeZAeeZyLGcLarYu8Fau5riYWfZS6GVb09Sp0zMucY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050523140221a7cdaa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:02:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I've never liked videogames... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NL2pcv011722 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So there's a certain amount of irony in my working on the PS1 and PS3. Today I got to see some of the video material that Sony put together for the big gaming conference last week, and I was impressed. It looks more like video tape than a game. One o fthe people who was at E3 said that one of the "war" videos made people duck when they watched it. One of the Sony executives showed the videos to his kids, who immediately wanted him to bring in the schedule--so he was able to tell them, "You are not the boss of me" (which was very funny on its own). I work on cool stuff!!!!!!!!!! For peanuts. Sigh. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 16:57:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NLvgdE032052 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:57:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:57:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064D9F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 17:57:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1487800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 17:57:41 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NLvfUF017738 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 17:57:41 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1141161wri for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 14:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.29.6 with SMTP id c6mr4208909wrc; Mon, 23 May 2005 14:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 14:57:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YZQEkVXrwcme7WRf/rhHiRrrD8O+S2JNsbpU6cePzhtO4W7ytCZDP065G91bqfMhC7Klc3X4DTAIzvXq/jmoctFgk1O0wzoLCkUfOVheuK3naqskWvWFsZowOuD4aubChUSbERvNMBPR+lyopnk2pS9ecyXyaL2kxR8QmpKommA= Message-ID: <462271950505231457721c0202@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:57:41 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I've never liked videogames... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050523140221a7cdaa@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050523140221a7cdaa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NLvfUF017739 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/23/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > So there's a certain amount of irony in my working on the PS1 and PS3. > Today I got to see some of the video material that Sony put together > for the big gaming conference last week, and I was impressed. It looks > more like video tape than a game. > One o fthe people who was at E3 said that one of the "war" videos made > people duck when they watched it. E3 has changed. It used to be exclusively electronics and now it's almost just games. > One of the Sony executives showed the videos to his kids, who > immediately wanted him to bring in the schedule--so he was able to > tell them, "You are not the boss of me" (which was very funny on its > own). > I work on cool stuff!!!!!!!!!! > For peanuts. > Sigh. What a lot of people don't necessarily realize is the video game market, financially speaking, is larger than the entire movie industry (screenings, rental, purchase) on a per year basis. The people affiliated with movies: cast, director, producer, etc. are able to make several movies each year - meaning it takes less than one year to make a movie. Games may take 2-3-4 years before they are released. Some games are now taking on beta testers from the outside world, but generally, magazines are the ones providing sneak previews. These are based upon watching as a spectator and later, the potential exists for hands-on. Rarely, if ever, does a magazine say, "While the intentions of this game are good, when it hits the market, it's going to sink like a stone. It sucks and there's no way it'll improve before it ships." All preliminary viewings are laced with enough postive traits you wonder how much deeper it can get. With 2-3-4 years committed, they'll take a chance putting a game out they know sucks (and getting any money in return is better than throwing it away). They *will*, however, call a spade a spade once the game is released. There are some which are obviously in a publisher's corner but I think people tend to take those revieiws with a grain of salt and use the pictures & diagrams as peeks at the software in action. In the case of PC games, there are essentially three PC-only game magazines. Quick investigation reveals two of them are owned by the same company so one might question the editorial sanctity. It's interesting to see games which are heavily anticipated and sales suddenly drop flat because once negative word gets out and people decide to skip it, people don't suddenly turn back around and decide to purchase in spite of what everyone else says. The game market seems somewhat fragmented - the console people and the PC people. And most of the console people are broken down into each vendor. The nice thing about consoles is you don't have to worry about compatibility issues. "This game" works in "this console" and it works "this fast" or "this well". With PC games, there are a lot more variables involved and sometimes, you almost have to rely upon voodoo, hoping to get something to run. You could have made the wrong purchase of a recent graphics card and find the next game you buy is like watching a slo-mo football replay. A lot of publishers are starting to gobble up others to where oligopolies are in the near future. A lot of people have expressed concerns but forget that as long as the money comes in, businesses believe they must be doing something right. And once an acquisition occurs, there's no going back. (Unlike Time Warner discussing spinning AOL off on an IPO despite the fact it was AOL who purchased Time Warner) Microsoft has couched one of their situations very carefully. The xBox 360 (xBbox v2) will not be compatible with the original xBox because it's new hardware and you don't want to use emulators for games to maintain compatibility. When asked about backward compatibility, Microsoft said "...the best-selling games will be backward compatible". Elsewhere, they stated they were going to take the highest-revenue games and repackage them for xBox 360. qed They're going to convert the old games which sold the best to versions which will run on the new one - *not* true compatibility. The question comes down to whether there will be any [financial] "breaks" for those who own the original copy of the game - perhaps in the form of a trade-in. Considering it's Microsoft, what do you think will happen? In combining these two pieces of information (above), they were released by entirely different parties. I've not seen what I've described in the same news source yet. I don't think Microsoft is going to worry about publicizing this unless|until someone persistently confronts someone in a face::face interview or press conference. Several analysts have said they originally stated the xBox had little, if any, chance of surviving. Those are the same analysts who have never watched or encountered any of the resources affliliated with Microsofts marketing juggernaut. And even if a product fails in v1.0, that doesn't mean it won't be back as something else. Remember Microsoft Bob? Quick Microsoft Trivia: Melinda French, product manager for Microsoft Bob, is now known as Mrs. William Henry Gates, III. Bob bobbed on a cesspool. Later, we saw descendents in the form of "Clippy", the paperclip in Microsoft Word, emerge as a mutant from that cesspool. xBox is largely known to be the first trip into the house as a full-fledge Microsoft communications hub, sneaking in to the Living Room as a game console. It'll sprout over time as it grows and incorporates more & more of Windows MCE (Media Center Edition) and embedded Windows into other devices which will communicate with the xBox center. Microsoft *did* take on one activity which essentially guaranteed the xBox survival: pay game publishers to release an xBox version at [or nearly at] the same time as a PC game. Because PC games can hinge on hardware issues and consoles are consistent, "people might be more inclined to play the same game but on a piece of hardware which is consistent a known-quality". One examle was Doom3. id thought for a long, long time about whether to take the Microsoft money (and said it was an enormous sum) and delay releasing the product for PCs, despite being golden. p From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 17:07:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NM7KdE000599 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 17:07:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 17:07:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064D98B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:07:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1488652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:07:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NM7J3j019062 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:07:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so2560833nzk for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 15:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.10 with SMTP id s10mr1518896nzc; Mon, 23 May 2005 15:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 15:07:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=O2nnoQFNTxknY75sMjaET5D710pT2h8KRfcnt3S+8c8Gfp12f8k2eQx6poS6wgwJAlTF7iuKAES03PlybF7plx3CNzOCXAchioXL+GfX9WT8b+TShAFLZBr2h45fv7Gahz23Cr7uuNvuiM4UaZdrjWrrAKENJuMrPx7E53b6SdE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050523150731183e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 17:07:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I've never liked videogames... In-Reply-To: <462271950505231457721c0202@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050523140221a7cdaa@mail.gmail.com> <462271950505231457721c0202@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NM7J3j019063 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/23/05, phil paxton wrote: > Games may take 2-3-4 years before they are > released. This chip alone has taken 4 years so far, I think. But these games should be faster than that--it took them less than 3 weeks to throw together the stuff they did for the E3, and that was fabulous. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 17:54:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NMrvdE006101 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 17:54:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 17:54:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064DA1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:53:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1490795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:53:56 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NMrupq024182 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:53:56 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.227]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523225356.MOMK2486.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:53:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.227]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523225356.OJVA24612.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:53:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42925EFF.2040500@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 17:53:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: DNA is so Kewl! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think I told y'all that I got my nephew to agree to swab his mouth and send the sample to the lab for the Maynor DNA project. I just got the results (I got them since I paid for it and was the "contact person"). And it confirms the paper research I'd done -- as in not every detail of the paper research, of course, but it proves with 99.9% accuracy (that's the lab's figure) that a person in Oregon I've been corresponding with for several years now is in fact married to a distant cousin of mine. It's kewl that it shows the connection of such a distance (a genetic distance, I mean -- I don't think DNA cares about geographical distances). I'd have to look at my charts to figure out how distant the cousinship is between Jeffrey and this person's husband, but it's pretty distant -- our branches split with Jeffrey's gggg-grandfather, Henry Maynor. I also now know that Richard Maner is my cousin, though I can't remember who he is -- he's nobody in my genealogy charts. This stuff is fascinating! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 18:07:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NN7KdE008007 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:07:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:07:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064DBB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:07:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1493438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:07:20 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NN7JHG028843 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:07:20 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1163018wri for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.39 with SMTP id 39mr4248455wru; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Mon, 23 May 2005 16:07:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ki+5EisCh/Om/0OFIE9wJeIVLoba0w+zdi7j0a8UOph1yDr72JwfO0z19YEJWjQ2VXjqfkvaifCzAI8U0SKB3hbc7A5NEcAUHLdL7mSqhbINNWo786yimk1N8FLdxtqycZveJI6XSb+6qqxsZYxmnlMZ6i13sOFcxd5AbAa8ZCo= Message-ID: <46227195050523160755bbecf6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:07:19 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DNA is so Kewl! In-Reply-To: <42925EFF.2040500@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42925EFF.2040500@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4NN7KHG028844 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/23/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I think I told y'all that I got my nephew to agree to swab his mouth and > send the sample to the lab for the Maynor DNA project. I just got the > results (I got them since I paid for it and was the "contact person"). ... > remember who he is -- he's nobody in my genealogy charts. This stuff is > fascinating! When I was going to juggling festivals there was a guy known as Melonhead who worked on the Human Genome Project. He was responsible for (not nothing else) a couple of salivary glands. I think he was tired of someone offering him a sample and spitting by about the 2nd or 3rd person. p From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 18:11:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NNBcdE008368 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:11:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:11:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F804B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:01:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1492320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:00:45 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NN0eUp025834 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:00:40 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.227]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050523230040.MUUP2486.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:00:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.227]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050523230040.OOMU24612.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:00:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42926093.7050206@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:00:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Commencement Day ... References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> <8865866a05052303216ace3dc@mail.gmail.com> <4291B31F.8020804@gmail.com> <4291BAA6.4030709@bc.edu> <83db447a05052307207aa5d4a6@mail.gmail.com> <4292250F.3010006@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4292250F.3010006@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > death, though. It was drizzly and cold throughout. We just don't have > a good way to do Commencement in imperfect weather. Not a pretty end to > a very expensive several years of study for the students (and parents). I know I've told before about the wet mess the year Daddy Bush, while Pres, was the MSU graduation speaker. Usually graduation is in the coliseum, but it was changed to the stadium that year because they figured the crowd would be extra large. The rain was pouring wildly a few hours before the event, but it was discovered that the secret service would not let it be moved indoors -- that it had to be where it was scheduled to be. (There had been announcements all along that in case of rain it would be moved inside, but apparently the ss didn't agree.) Amazingly, the rain stopped just in the nick of time. But we traipsed through puddles and sat on wet seats. (That's the last MSU graduation I've been to -- and was the first in quite a few years. I went that year, as I've said here before, because I thought it would be fun to watch the secret-service people. And it was.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 18:51:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4NNofdE013468 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:50:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:51:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064DA9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:50:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1496169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:50:41 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4NNoebT003313 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:50:40 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8060B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:50:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200505232350.j4NNoebT003313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:50:40 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: DNA is so Kewl! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 23 May 2005 17:53:51 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: This stuff is >fascinating! > Indeed it is! Perhaps exhumation need not enter the DNA-chasing scenario, when just a swab will do it. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 19:10:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4O0ApdE015924 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:10:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064DBFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:10:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1496973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:10:50 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4O0Aovi004991 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:10:50 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.79.63]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050524001050.FBKA7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:10:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.79.63]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050524001050.TJQN25991.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:10:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42927105.4050708@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:10:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DNA is so Kewl! References: <42925EFF.2040500@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42925EFF.2040500@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > it proves with 99.9% accuracy (that's > the lab's figure) that a person in Oregon I've been corresponding with > for several years now is in fact married to a distant cousin of mine. I can tell that I need to study the reports more carefully. The e-mail from the lab said this: ************ You have a match! A Y-DNA25 match has been found between you and another person(s) in the Family Tree DNA database. You and the other person(s) have matched in 23, 24 or 25 loci, which means that there is a 99.9% likelihood you have a common ancestor. ************* But when I looked at the Y-DNA matches on the site, I found it more complicated than it appeared from the e-mail. Clearly there's a connection between Jeffrey and these distant cousins, but the percentages of likelihood are confusing. I continue to be fascinated by it. I also found out in the state archives this afternoon when reading microfilm of Brookhaven newspapers that Jeff isn't the first Jeff Maynor in the family. His great-great uncle, William Jefferson Maynor, was apparently called Jeff. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 19:53:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4O0r9dE021101 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:53:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:53:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064DC86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:43:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1498789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:43:08 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4O0h8UM007629 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:43:08 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EC3361C460490 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:43:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c55ff9$94c8cc10$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505232350.j4NNoebT003313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: DNA is so Kewl! Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:43:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Williams" To: Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:50 PM Subject: Re: DNA is so Kewl! > On Mon, 23 May 2005 17:53:51 -0500, Natalie Maynor > wrote: > > This stuff is >>fascinating! >> > > Indeed it is! > > Perhaps exhumation need not enter the DNA-chasing scenario, when just a > swab will do it. > > Amy But you'd have to have the swab on file before they expire? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 20:04:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4O14kdE022375 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:04:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:04:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064DBA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:04:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1499324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:04:46 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4O14krN009386 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:04:46 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F80787@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:04:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200505240104.j4O14krN009386@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:04:45 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: DNA is so Kewl! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 23 May 2005 19:43:19 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: >> Indeed it is! >> >> Perhaps exhumation need not enter the DNA-chasing scenario, when just a >> swab will do it. >> >> Amy > >But you'd have to have the swab on file >before they expire? > > - D. M. Yes. Pre-expiration swabbing. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 20:32:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4O1WhdE025535 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:32:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:32:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064DE38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:32:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1501474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:32:42 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4O1WglP011898 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:32:42 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.79.63]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050524013242.WTOQ2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:32:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.79.63]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050524013242.SWZO9421.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:32:42 -0400 Message-ID: <42928435.6080509@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:32:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Hey, Rita Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did you read my uncle's book? If so, did you find it sucky? As I said earlier, it's certainly not something I would consider a page-turner, but I found it interesting because of knowing him. I'm curious about an outsider's reaction to it (which I know would not be a glowing report, btw -- I said that earlier -- but was wondering whether you found it shit-on-a-stick). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 20:35:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4O1ZmdE025791 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:35:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:35:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064DC89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:35:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1501622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:35:48 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4O1ZmPh012212 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:35:48 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.79.63]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050524013548.WVOM2457.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:35:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.79.63]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050524013547.SYBB9421.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:35:47 -0400 Message-ID: <429284EF.1030906@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:35:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Asking for Opinions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In addition to soliciting Rita's opinion of the book, I'm soliciting further opinions about tennis shoes on graves in pictures. Bonniemae is the only person who has responded to whether that might be -- and her reply really didn't address the question of . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 20:57:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4O1vYdE028287 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:57:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:57:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064DDD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:57:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1502475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:57:34 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4O1vXrC013807; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:57:33 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 106452896; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:57:32 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050523185657.027aceb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:58:21 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Asking for Opinions In-Reply-To: <429284EF.1030906@maynor.net> References: <429284EF.1030906@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:35 PM 5/23/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >In addition to soliciting Rita's opinion of the book, I'm soliciting >further opinions about tennis shoes on graves in pictures. Bonniemae is >the only person who has responded to whether that might be taste> -- and her reply really didn't address the question of . > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I didn't see anything wrong with it. Sometimes things left have special meaning and you should leave them alone. You are not the caretaker of the grave. What was the question again? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 21:04:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4O24OdE029515 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:04:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:04:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064DEAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 22:04:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1502898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 22:04:23 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4O24MYE014353 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 22:04:22 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.79.63]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050524020422.BCUC25726.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 22:04:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.79.63]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050524020422.TZGZ8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 22:04:22 -0400 Message-ID: <42928BA1.3060604@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:04:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Asking for Opinions References: <429284EF.1030906@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523185657.027aceb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050523185657.027aceb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: > I didn't see anything wrong with it. Sometimes things left have special > meaning and you should leave them alone. You are not the caretaker of > the > grave. What was the question again? If that were the grave of your grandparents, would you mind that there was a picture of it online prominently displaying an abandoned tennis shoe? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 23 21:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4O2CIdE030560 for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:12:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:12:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064DD02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 23 May 2005 22:12:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1503141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 23 May 2005 22:12:13 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4O2CDbG014923; Mon, 23 May 2005 22:12:13 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 106455499; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:12:12 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050523191204.026ec340@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:13:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Asking for Opinions In-Reply-To: <42928BA1.3060604@maynor.net> References: <429284EF.1030906@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050523185657.027aceb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42928BA1.3060604@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:04 PM 5/23/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty F Clark wrote: > >>I didn't see anything wrong with it. Sometimes things left have special >>meaning and you should leave them alone. You are not the caretaker of >>the >>grave. What was the question again? > >If that were the grave of your grandparents, would you mind that there >was a picture of it online prominently displaying an abandoned tennis shoe? No. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 01:06:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4O66ZdE026311 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 01:06:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 01:06:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064E62D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 2:06:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1518684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 02:06:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4O66X5u032735 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 02:06:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4O66Xlh023201 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:06:33 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j4O66W5f023199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:06:32 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:06:32 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I've never liked videogames... Message-ID: <20050524060632.GA23174@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050523140221a7cdaa@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050523140221a7cdaa@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I work on cool stuff!!!!!!!!!! = = For peanuts. = = Sigh. = = Karen So, when you gonna start looking for a new job? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 02:54:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4O7sXdE004810 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 02:54:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 02:54:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064E58B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 3:54:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1521536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 03:54:32 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4O7iVHZ006999 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 03:44:31 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4O7iAQu001083 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 03:44:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 03:44:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: tennis shoes on graves? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. 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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 07:19:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OCJPdE012591 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:19:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:19:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F81D5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 8:13:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1543585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:13:12 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OCDCrS020717 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:13:12 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.128.213]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050524121312.WLOW2010.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:13:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.128.213]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050524121311.ZHXJ8439.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:13:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42931A52.8070000@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 07:13:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita References: <42928435.6080509@maynor.net> <4292F5F9.2010903@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4292F5F9.2010903@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> (which I know would not be a glowing report, >> btw -- I said that earlier -- but was wondering whether you found it >> shit-on-a-stick). > > > Are those my only options? No. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 07:19:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OCJPdE012590 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:19:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:19:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F81D44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 7:59:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1542739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:59:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OBxOm7018909 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:59:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so2809878nzk for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 04:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.15 with SMTP id g15mr1636203nzc; Tue, 24 May 2005 04:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2005 04:59:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HUqD3beqNOg6+AwDfXV8WrlHGosKNBu0KY7X5ps273nvJqA7qjm3ixdys4wE73kmXYNcvGNg9tjHGnBoYxlSAVf7tmwbrGWrY4pzhXsOO/6M9BjF/8i0B4Wu9jQox2mloTjuNJIidYtGzVd7SpPpABYa2wIwwrgMQQ/0kwnlFHw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050524045942da627a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 06:59:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I've never liked videogames... In-Reply-To: <20050524060632.GA23174@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050523140221a7cdaa@mail.gmail.com> <20050524060632.GA23174@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4OBxOm7018910 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/24/05, steph wrote: > = > = I work on cool stuff!!!!!!!!!! > = > = For peanuts. > = > = Sigh. > = > = Karen > > So, when you gonna start looking for a new job? What makes you think I haven't been looking?! I've been looking since about six months after I got this job. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 07:25:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OCPqdE013516 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:25:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:25:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064F19A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 8:25:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1544272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:25:52 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OCPqbH022160 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:25:52 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:25:51 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:25:32 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: R.I.P. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thurl Ravenscroft dead at 91 "I'm the only man in the world that has made a career with one word..." BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 07:55:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OCtddE018241 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:55:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:55:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F81EE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 8:55:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1546310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:55:38 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OCtbFa026329 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:55:37 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 94553517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:52:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42932411.4080401@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:54:41 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita References: <42928435.6080509@maynor.net> <4292F5F9.2010903@bc.edu> <42931A52.8070000@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42931A52.8070000@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> (which I know would not be a glowing report, >>> btw -- I said that earlier -- but was wondering whether you found it >>> shit-on-a-stick). >> Well, I wouldn't classify it as either deserving of a glowing report or shit-on-a-stick at this point. I really have not read very much of it. I am finding it somewhat disjointed. When I have given it a little more of a chance, I will provide a more in depth report. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 08:04:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OD3udE019922 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:03:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:04:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064F1DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 9:03:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1547020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:03:55 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OD3tTI027601 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:03:55 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4OD3t7K026248 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:03:55 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 ([131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4OD1hLT002174 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:01:45 -0400 Message-ID: <036b01c56060$bcd2b6a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: R.I.P. Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:01:44 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Another frosted flake... rip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:25 AM Subject: R.I.P. > Thurl Ravenscroft dead at 91 > > "I'm the only man in the world that has made a career with one > word..." > > > BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 08:24:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ODNrdE023236 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:23:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:24:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064F119@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 9:13:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1547762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:13:52 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ODDq11028902 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:13:52 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2613595wri for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 06:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.141.10 with SMTP id o10mr1612377wrd; Tue, 24 May 2005 06:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2005 06:13:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=P8+ELGPtD5HDLZi2EtxDnEcJn7kcL5gpVnIhKaeqMDsRwmT6q6Gr8JbeVM+3czQ9HKKgnz8pV3BUX1rE9LK8XZ/sDjVpkrgXUx/9cWRHtLcca4Aj7Ww/ZDWh0/67nigghzTMSTaMvD8siB7uK8woLzfCCVgUZbKiRA2TnHtHVG4= Message-ID: <83db447a05052406131bd38105@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:13:52 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: R.I.P. In-Reply-To: <000701c5605f$fe727240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000701c5605f$fe727240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4ODNrdE023236 On 5/24/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Born in Norfolk, Ne ...just goes to show that all sorts of disadvantages can be overcome... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 08:36:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ODaJdE025051 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:36:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:36:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F81EDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 8:56:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1546361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:56:18 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OCuI99026434 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:56:18 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B95F1130A219 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 07:56:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000701c5605f$fe727240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: R.I.P. Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 07:56:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:25 AM Subject: R.I.P. > Thurl Ravenscroft dead at 91 > > "I'm the only man in the world that has made a career with one > word..." > > > BrP Born in Norfolk, Ne - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 08:36:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ODaJdE025053 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:36:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:36:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F81F36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 9:02:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1546941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:02:44 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OD2hRm027456 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:02:43 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.128.213]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050524130243.YQNZ2486.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:02:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.128.213]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050524130243.WNAE24612.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:02:43 -0400 Message-ID: <429325EE.3000900@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:02:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita References: <42928435.6080509@maynor.net> <4292F5F9.2010903@bc.edu> <42931A52.8070000@maynor.net> <42932411.4080401@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42932411.4080401@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > I am finding it somewhat disjointed. I also thought that. Some of the disjointedness was a result of his having written various parts of it as stand-alone short things (probably there's a better word here than "things"). But I think some better editing should have been done -- that the joints could have been smoothed (among other things). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 09:58:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OEw6dE005283 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:58:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:58:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064F593@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:58:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1558101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:58:06 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OEw61H014654 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:58:06 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:58:06 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:57:33 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: adjacent headlines... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ..in the online version of the Toronto Star: Youths set boy on fire: Police Child's play now safer: Study BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:22:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OFMDdE008331 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:22:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:22:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064F556@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:22:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1561194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:21:38 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OFLc8U020420 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:21:38 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BFD817B6D3461 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:21:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000501c56074$4c5a8240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000701c5605f$fe727240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <83db447a05052406131bd38105@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: R.I.P. Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:21:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: Re: R.I.P. On 5/24/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Born in Norfolk, Ne ...just goes to show that all sorts of disadvantages can be overcome... Yes. You just have to see the glass as half full. Well, actually it helps if you have your glass at least half full. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:44:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OFi4dE010891 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:44:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:44:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064F5EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:44:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1563206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:44:04 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OFi21M024424 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:44:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7F198B2F for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 18:44:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02629-05 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 18:44:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7F299330 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 18:44:00 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:43:35 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.489 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> Why? Did you find Latvian roots in your genealogy? > > Not roots exactly -- but a side twig. > Latvian husband. Her tombstone said "Ethel M. Wank" and > his "Edward E. Wank" -- and oops -- I just realize that I wrote Edwin in > that e-mail. Anyway, I plan to do some more poking around for info on > the allegedly Latvian Edward Wank. Your tips about possible adaptations > of the spelling might help me find him on a boat. Good if the tips are of any use. On a boat, you said -- well this reminds me of the illegal immigrants in the USA who entered the country... when? in the nineteen thirties? or twenties rather? just after there was a law established against them, so that not just everybody shouldn't have come and stayed? Maybe his family came on a boat, more or less, or sort of. Ok, as I've just consumed 0.5 litre of light beer -- on the second half of the third or fourth hot day, thunderstorm evidently coming closer quickly -- I tend to be talkative and give you advice on how to find the origin of the allegedly Latvian, but you have much experience in finding out such things, and I have not, so I try to keep quiet. I only say that when I googled for 'Vanks', I got a number of answers in the Latvian language, and at least in a small number of them Vanks was a family name, for sure (that is, a name like that does exist), whereas I couldn't decide about it when reading the other links -- I do not know Latvian. 0.5 litres (about a pint, or a little less?) really is too much for me. But it was good. I maybe should take some exercise to let some of the beer vanish from my body. I took some earlier today (exercise, not beer), and went swimming in the river (the temperature of the water was 16 C / 60.8 F, and it felt gooooood). Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:47:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OFlddE011329 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:47:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:47:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F826F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:47:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1563417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:47:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OFla50024910 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:47:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so297237wra for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.37 with SMTP id t37mr596227wrt; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:47:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=agq2ha4709Kck0tQnYzBddqCO7E+NVRHwO8qbW63JNc6YTBECpzggGqp7TfghkeMRfuwxFIwfFpXDetJbrTWKFxvIKd2Lo1IIKlWMdH/X2fSjoS+ohcqv4VJz0PBT7jQ+kWWuoyAnIJEFnmeKSzHJhHBRY04TIUJEqNy8J7Dp9I= Message-ID: <4622719505052408472a9bc1e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:47:36 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: R.I.P. In-Reply-To: <000501c56074$4c5a8240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000701c5605f$fe727240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <83db447a05052406131bd38105@mail.gmail.com> <000501c56074$4c5a8240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4OFlb50024912 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Before I forget, notice the two key words: prostate cancer. He may have been able to save his life with an occasional drop of blood. Considering breast cancer may be present for up to ten years before a lump is large enough to show up on a mammogram and men can get a PSA test, I'd think women would be more than a bit miffed when prostate cancer is shown as a COD. _____________________ Here's what the Indianapolis Star said. Although it's like most of the Star - wire service stories: Thurl Ravenscroft's voice graced TV, movies, Disney Actor sang 'You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch' in adaptation of Dr. Seuss book. Knight Ridder Newspapers SANTA ANA, Calif. -- Thurl Ravenscroft of Fullerton, Calif., whose voice was well-known through his work in movies, TV and at Disneyland, died Sunday from prostate cancer. He was 91. Tony the Tiger? That was Ravenscroft. Disneyland? Pirates of the Caribbean, the Haunted Mansion and the Enchanted Tiki Room were all graced by Ravenscroft's pliable, unique voice. Movies? How about "Cinderella," "Dumbo" and "Lady and the Tramp"? Thurl Arthur Ravenscroft was born Feb. 6, 1914, in Norfolk, Neb. While in school, he was encouraged to go into show business, and he auditioned at Paramount studios to be a singer. By the mid-1930s, Ravenscroft was appearing regularly on radio, first on a program titled "Goose Creek Parson." In the late 1930s, he appeared on the "The Kraft Music Hall" with Bing Crosby, singing backup in a group called the Paul Taylor Choristers. That group eventually became the Sportsmen Quartette. After military service during World War II, Ravenscroft returned to Hollywood, later becoming involved in the Mellomen singing group, and began a career in radio, movies, television and commercials. The group performed with a list of stars including Danny Kaye, Rosemary Clooney, Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley. In 1952, Ravenscroft achieved a measure of immortality, thanks to a TV commercial. "When Kellogg's brought up the idea of the tiger, they sent me a caricature of Tony to see if I could create something for them," he said in a 1996 interview with The Orange County Register. After messing around for some time, I came up with the 'Great!' roar, and that's how it's been since then." June, Ravenscroft's wife of 53 years, died in 1999 at age 80. Survivors include two children, Ron and Nancy, and four grandchildren. Services are pending. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:54:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OFrwdE012037 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:53:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:54:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064F7EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:53:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1564137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:53:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OFrv1h025993 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:53:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1172537nzp for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr1748367nzb; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2005 08:53:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Fq6bY8GLw3JJC3VUsBvTIYtPwu3CDXUGSA8X+dZSut3T1Rad3rlnbIpDuPFZDqWZzPtkBENLlfIH5LurZPss5lyPq3kor9VssxXLg9PvrIe60EJ+lMJCkjD4+c+QO6XScJEgTUInqJdPUxgmfEndGIObn1tB1QGUIFwreFBEvQg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050524085332324c73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:53:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: R.I.P. In-Reply-To: <4622719505052408472a9bc1e1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000701c5605f$fe727240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <83db447a05052406131bd38105@mail.gmail.com> <000501c56074$4c5a8240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4622719505052408472a9bc1e1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4OFrw1h025996 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/24/05, phil paxton wrote: > Before I forget, notice the two key words: prostate cancer. He may > have been able to save his life with an occasional drop of blood. > Considering breast cancer may be present for up to ten years before a > lump is large enough to show up on a mammogram and men can get a PSA > test, I'd think women would be more than a bit miffed when prostate > cancer is shown as a COD. I thought PSA wasn't that accurate. The only that gets me is cervical cancer as a COD--it makes me angry. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 10:58:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OFwYdE012646 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:58:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 10:58:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8277F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:58:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1564553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:58:33 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OFwWcu026733 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:58:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33FB991B9 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 18:58:31 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04100-02 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 18:58:31 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AF7993F8 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 18:52:52 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42934DAC.5020100@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:52:12 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A test [Re: Halfway to a Classics MA!] References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <4290AAD6.8080105@akad.ee> <4290ACBB.3080507@akad.ee> <4622719505052214186d6e93ab@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505052214186d6e93ab@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.203 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >>Kristin Sarv wrote: >> >> >>>>(I hope it'll >>>>show itself as meant, with fixed width): >>>> >>>> >>>It didn't. If you can endure, I'll try once more >>> >>> >>No, I won't try any more. I have changed the preferences this way and >>another >> >> > >I don't understand how it precludes copying selected text to another >application and assigning a fixed font to it won't work. I can make >neither heads nor tails out of it, > I cannot either. I added some spaces in the beginnings of the rows before sending it to the list, but a moment ago I sent a test message to my own address without changing anything, I just copied and pasted. It were no better. > but I did open it up /c a fixed >font. > > Sorry, what does /c mean? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 11:07:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OG7CdE014417 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:07:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:07:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064F688@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:07:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1565400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:07:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OG7BFV028209 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:07:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1182776nzp for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr1763689nzu; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:07:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=byZDHZAUDuDGYIkj7OxIXcIPNWsSvEPczO27sAo1h1QVd4cnTvIyGSrJAIwwAMSLJWfpz4xjaav0ZyXrhKqkj83Zwpw/gN+fdNP+/H/h6ppVTXqRdm+2KB1Hy9H3oAMC+1nqFTmalZsUzb+e7yTtIVFboWFtoNYt8yCO0UOL6Hs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505240907512d4557@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:07:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Store wars... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4OG7BFV028212 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is moderately funny: http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 11:11:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OGBndE014882 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:11:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:11:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064F864@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:11:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1565865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:11:42 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OGBfp1028902 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:11:41 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FCF41F301279 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:11:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c5607b$4a16a890$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> Subject: Re: Re: Name Question Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:11:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU as I've just consumed 0.5 litre of light beer -- on the second half > of the third or fourth hot day, thunderstorm evidently coming closer > quickly -- I tend to be talkative and give you advice on how to find the > origin of the allegedly Latvian, but you have much experience in finding > out such things, and I have not, so I try to keep quiet. I only say that > when I googled for 'Vanks', I got a number of answers in the Latvian > language, and at least in a small number of them Vanks was a family > name, for sure (that is, a name like that does exist), whereas I > couldn't decide about it when reading the other links -- I do not know > Latvian. > 0.5 litres (about a pint, or a little less?) really is too much for me. > But it was good. I maybe should take some exercise to let some of the > beer vanish from my body. I took some earlier today (exercise, not > beer), and went swimming in the river (the temperature of the water was > 16 C / 60.8 F, and it felt gooooood). > > Kristin I think you should have another beer. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 11:16:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OGGHdE015313 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:16:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:16:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064F880@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:16:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1566194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:16:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OGGFA9029515 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:16:15 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8282E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:16:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200505241616.j4OGGFA9029515@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:16:14 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: R.I.P. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Well, actually it helps if you have your glass >at least half full. > > - D. M. Yes -- and play with a full deck to begin with ... Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 11:26:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OGQBdE016481 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:26:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:26:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064F80E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:26:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1566998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:26:10 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OGQ9xL031008 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:26:10 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567F099448 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:26:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06847-03 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:26:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5A79948B for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:21:02 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <429353C7.5090007@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:18:15 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Vesak - when? References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42919F80.4090706@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.535 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, LONGWORDS X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore kirjutas: > Kristin Sarv skrev: > >> Btw, isn't Vesak Day on the day when there is full moon? > > This is all as difficult as the various Christian Easters - or more so. > But in any case, for Vesak-purposes the full moon was yesterday. But > what should the relation between the full moon and Vesak Day be? And > which year is this in Buddhist counting? > > This is Vesak year 2549 in Vietnam and Sri Lanka, 2548 in Thaland, and > 2550 in some places in India. > The Vesak Day was yesterday in Thailand and Vietnam. In Sri Lanka it is > today while the Srilankan Buddhists in Norway celebrate Vesak on June 4. > Confused yet? Oh, and in addition the Buddha's Light International > Asociation organise a (Buddhist) ecumenical Vesak celebration in Oslo on > May 29. And for Tibetan Drikung Kagyu Buddhists (there is an Estonian site) there was Saga Dawa Düchen yesterday which seems to be (more or less?) the same as Vesak. Ok. Maybe I'll get to know more about Buddhism. I recently suddenly began understanding better their philosophy whereas earlier there was always some obstacle in my mind when I tried to understand their texts. Well, I knew *something*, had read Mahatma Gandhi in my teens, and other texts by and about Buddhists, together with good commentaries, there was alway something I wanted to understand better but couldn't. Now the curious obstacle has gone and it is easier to understand both academic commentaries and the texts, and also texts of and about Eastern mythologies and different religions. > In any case, here are a couple of photos from the celebration yesterday > - therwe were only 50 participants, so I brought home a 10 litre bucket > of fasolada. But there was lots of both joy and serenity. > > everyone was happy. Nice and good an event it must have been. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 11:29:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OGTNdE016795 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:29:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:29:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064F81A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:29:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1567174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:29:23 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OGTM7Q031423 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:29:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3746599435 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:29:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07334-06 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:29:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D238598D2A for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:29:20 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <429355B5.9000408@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:26:29 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> <000801c5607b$4a16a890$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000801c5607b$4a16a890$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.485 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > as I've just consumed 0.5 litre of light beer -- on the second half > >> of the third or fourth hot day, thunderstorm evidently coming closer >> quickly -- I tend to be talkative and give you advice on how to find the >> origin of the allegedly Latvian, but you have much experience in finding >> out such things, and I have not, so I try to keep quiet. I only say that >> when I googled for 'Vanks', I got a number of answers in the Latvian >> language, and at least in a small number of them Vanks was a family >> name, for sure (that is, a name like that does exist), whereas I >> couldn't decide about it when reading the other links -- I do not know >> Latvian. >> 0.5 litres (about a pint, or a little less?) really is too much for me. >> But it was good. I maybe should take some exercise to let some of the >> beer vanish from my body. I took some earlier today (exercise, not >> beer), and went swimming in the river (the temperature of the water was >> 16 C / 60.8 F, and it felt gooooood). > > > I think you should have another beer. :-) It does start vanishing, or evaporating. But I have work to do, so this kind of tempting is totally out of place! The lightning and thunder are here, too, and a small cupful of rain just came down. So, it's getting cooler, and also, fortunately, it's a bit less convenient to go to the shop to buy one, not knowing when the bucketfuls of rain may fall. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 11:48:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OGlqdE019143 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:47:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:48:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064F914@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:44:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1568280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:44:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OGiXiZ001119 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:44:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1210440nzp for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.12 with SMTP id b12mr554320nzd; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:44:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=t5gzZ9gpftzne2P8u7i9jwFtG0mQ84H24XadfnHBFNhF/YE2iJvd9ygZtfiUB0J7cHbljzJ8QIbcN7isTDHf6GETnq6lb/nGyg/TkYLd8zbFP6Eu9DVUeDDYhRstElj8ZfnlTtU20GeWX2OJ9zpLjMv1Q6zWASIL2c7IWXoif7I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052409444bd61019@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:44:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: R.I.P. In-Reply-To: <46227195050524093727451efc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000701c5605f$fe727240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <83db447a05052406131bd38105@mail.gmail.com> <000501c56074$4c5a8240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4622719505052408472a9bc1e1@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050524085332324c73@mail.gmail.com> <46227195050524093727451efc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4OGiYiZ001124 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/24/05, phil paxton wrote: > Personally, to know I've got a clean bill of health in that > area, I could handle that once a year. You are lucky enough to have health insurance, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 11:48:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OGlqdE019144 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:47:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 11:48:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064F8F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:37:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1567837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:37:52 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OGbpNt032577 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:37:51 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so318963wra for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.22 with SMTP id 22mr650128wru; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:37:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rEECdTJBgadQMN4B1fdLSY6laeWPG/xrvS5CRhaWZvA2/9dRvfEUnArt1cZ25TN5ZUOs7WkUdYwsVlLeWbX8Xep4HBeu+TuqYbNPNYuazxOJ4EaNhO9Lf9MWFyptOvUMkE1ECcwW6igwD75JLQ5Tb3N5O7BMXT9LSfaLizhUQtk= Message-ID: <46227195050524093727451efc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:37:51 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: R.I.P. In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050524085332324c73@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000701c5605f$fe727240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <83db447a05052406131bd38105@mail.gmail.com> <000501c56074$4c5a8240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4622719505052408472a9bc1e1@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050524085332324c73@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4OGbpNt032578 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/24/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/24/05, phil paxton wrote: > > Before I forget, notice the two key words: prostate cancer. He may > > have been able to save his life with an occasional drop of blood. > > Considering breast cancer may be present for up to ten years before a > > lump is large enough to show up on a mammogram and men can get a PSA > > test, I'd think women would be more than a bit miffed when prostate > > cancer is shown as a COD. > > I thought PSA wasn't that accurate. The only that gets me is cervical > cancer as a COD--it makes me angry. It's not foolproof. But if the numbers don't add up, it's time to start paying attention to something going on. I got checked early via another way for another reason. Passing small amounts of blood two years ago. So while she was scoping me the last time (I got it twice) I got the full package. Once you're past the main gate, it's not like there's anything else to prevent doing so. She tossed it in as a freebie although in my early 40s it wasn't like I was at risk. But she game me a clean bill of health until my early 50s. Personally, to know I've got a clean bill of health in that area, I could handle that once a year. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:06:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OH6ZdE021723 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:06:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:06:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0064F8CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:56:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1569342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:56:34 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OGuFjJ002627 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:56:16 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so330834wra for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.148.12 with SMTP id v12mr627941wrd; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2005 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E9LXPNxIsSvhEo8JYdHP9EY5F9uFrIGz1p/QuVTsVuu+nzJzTm0L84wKlSKXY+ARVP2csC6cjdX1JvTff67lfchBMBd1AmrxlGJVUYeocqC57WUSrmMog2TI5E1cp44mRbZ2e6F67bpELko1ZrMf1O1hoU5Tuk2hTK6uMaygPp8= Message-ID: <4622719505052409564e75776f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:56:15 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A test [Re: Halfway to a Classics MA!] In-Reply-To: <42934DAC.5020100@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <4290AAD6.8080105@akad.ee> <4290ACBB.3080507@akad.ee> <4622719505052214186d6e93ab@mail.gmail.com> <42934DAC.5020100@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4OGuGjJ002628 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/24/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > phil paxton wrote: > > >>Kristin Sarv wrote: > > > but I did open it up /c a fixed > > > Sorry, what does /c mean? > oops - sorry. /c is "with" - Latin "cum" /s is "without" - Latin "sine" With handwriting, it's the letter with a horizontal stroke over it. Medical shorthand. I was reading another article dealing with botox and migraines yesterday.[1] and I must have been distracted when I was typing. It doesn't happen that much online these days. It creeps in on some of my typing, some not. /a Latin a, ab "away from" used to sneak in more than it does now [1] Technically, I don't have migraine, tension, or cluster headaches although the constant head pain can manifest itself as migraine and tension when it surges. The only botox studies posted have been with patients who had a sing session. Before I stopped a year ago, I'd had five sessions, making me an anomaly. The fact I fell asleep after the first needle freaked the doc. He had a patient who was apprehensive about it until he told her he had a patient who slept through the process. They don't know why it works (when it does), how it works, how to make it work better, how much should be the optimal quantity, etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:09:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OH9hdE022005 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:09:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:09:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F829F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 13:09:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1570453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 13:09:42 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OH9ftK004807 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 13:09:42 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4OH9eZh026624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:09:40 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j4OH9efu026622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:09:40 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:09:40 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question Message-ID: <20050524170940.GA26592@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = 0.5 litres (about a pint, or a little less?) really is too much for me. = But it was good. I maybe should take some exercise to let some of the I like it when Kristen posts drunk! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:37:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OHawdE024564 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:36:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:37:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0064FA98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 13:36:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1573011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 13:36:57 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OHauB0008938 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 13:36:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511A299242 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:36:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15762-09 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:36:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E566098AFB for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:36:55 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4293662F.506@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:36:47 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A test [Re: Halfway to a Classics MA!] References: <3c1d5b5005052102341eaad076@mail.gmail.com> <4290A8B2.1020002@akad.ee> <4290AAD6.8080105@akad.ee> <4290ACBB.3080507@akad.ee> <4622719505052214186d6e93ab@mail.gmail.com> <42934DAC.5020100@akad.ee> <4622719505052409564e75776f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505052409564e75776f@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.249 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: > <>Kristin Sarv wrote: > >>Sorry, what does /c mean? >> > >oops - sorry. > > No need for apologies. I just hadn't met these abbreviations earlier. In the list mail here w/out or something similar occur often, and these are easy to guess, but I didn't think of Latin when seeing /c. Most of others probably recognized it and knew its meaning. >/c is "with" - Latin "cum" >/s is "without" - Latin "sine" > >With handwriting, it's the letter with a horizontal stroke over it. >Medical shorthand. > > And shorthand I haven't learned either. Maybe medical shorthand is different from the general or classic shorthand anyway. >[1] Technically, I don't have migraine, tension, or cluster headaches >although the constant head pain can manifest itself as migraine and >tension when it surges. > Reading the descriptions of how you feel makes me wish to *say* something. But what can I say else that I read them with sympathy, and I guess it's good you talk about your pains and difficulties -- at least I may say that I do read them. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 12:41:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4OHfIdE024937 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:41:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:41:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0064F8F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 13:41:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1573292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 13:41:18 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4OHfHwF009575 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 13:41:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FA199010 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:41:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16107-08 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:41:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E04D9951C for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 20:41:16 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42936733.1070703@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:41:07 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> <20050524170940.GA26592@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050524170940.GA26592@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.487 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >= 0.5 litres (about a pint, or a little less?) really is too much for me. >= But it was good. I maybe should take some exercise to let some of the > >I like it when Kristen posts drunk! > I must be drunk still, although I do not feel it any more, for I cannot see much difference actually between this and my sober post, only remember the feeling how I wanted to speak about all things in one message, in one breath. 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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 21:46:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4P2k0dE018188 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:46:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:46:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006512E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:36:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1636370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:36:00 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4P2ZxV7020575 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:36:00 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so551924wra for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.45.2 with SMTP id s2mr924259wrs; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:35:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cX0kJHw7CaKmg7vJ+J8QRjYz8HN086+ssv6DbVo6jsHpnjIcezo42SOCrds5KSRXkao7M4bsjxnBI96EgdoqUoOGHPnG7qODsUpT1kjhKQmJ74cqdgYMTI2Y10FgDZhDomclIyv6BQe6IaicMZEH3ZnUNBW95D+J/w6KEcTwP1Y= Message-ID: <4622719505052419351fdc318a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:35:59 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I've never liked videogames... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050524045942da627a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050523140221a7cdaa@mail.gmail.com> <20050524060632.GA23174@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a7050524045942da627a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4P2a0V7020576 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/24/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/24/05, steph wrote: > > So, when you gonna start looking for a new job? > What makes you think I haven't been looking?! I've been looking since > about six months after I got this job. It's been no picnic up here. It's a soft market in IT. I'm looking at making a hard commitment to my idea journal. I hadn't expected to have to crack it open [in order] to avoid eating hotdogs for lunch and weenie broth for supper. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 21:48:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4P2mOdE018511 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:48:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:48:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065140E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:48:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1636776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:48:24 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4P2mNYR021228 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:48:23 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.115.167]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050525024823.CGFJ7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:48:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.115.167]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050525024823.QLHL11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:48:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4293E771.30904@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:48:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Att: Mareeber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just added a bunch of Aschers to Find-a-Grave: http://tinyurl.com/bcnoz -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 22:10:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4P3A3dE020636 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:10:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:10:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006519BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:10:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1648050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:59:23 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4P2xN1q022723 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:59:23 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.115.167]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050525025923.CMQO7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:59:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.115.167]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050525025923.QNVI11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:59:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4293EA05.5000203@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:59:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Good if the tips are of any use. On a boat, you said -- well this > reminds me of the illegal immigrants in the USA who entered the > country... when? in the nineteen thirties? or twenties rather? just > after there was a law established against them, so that not just > everybody shouldn't have come and stayed? Maybe his family came on a > boat, more or less, or sort of. I still haven't found any record of him except his tombstone. But it clearly says "Edward E. Wank." And the obituary for his father-in-law identifies one of the daughters (the daughters of the father-in-law, that is) as "Mrs. Ethel Wank of Vineyard Haven, Mass." This obituary was in January 1936. I think it was in the 1910 census that I found Ethel Maynor living in New York and working as a nurse. So I'm guessing that Mr. Wank showed up on the scene sometime around then. But I can't find them in the 1920 or 1930 censuses. Maybe they were in hiding. > Ok, as I've just consumed 0.5 litre of light beer -- on the second half > of the third or fourth hot day, thunderstorm evidently coming closer > quickly -- I tend to be talkative and give you advice on how to find the > origin of the allegedly Latvian, but you have much experience in finding > out such things, and I have not, so I try to keep quiet. I only say that > when I googled for 'Vanks', I got a number of answers in the Latvian > language, and at least in a small number of them Vanks was a family > name, for sure (that is, a name like that does exist), whereas I > couldn't decide about it when reading the other links -- I do not know > Latvian. Any little clue might turn out to lead to an answer! I will admit that the Wank situation isn't at the tippety-top of my priority list re genealogical mysteries, but I love finding out anything and everything I can. It's the detective work that's fun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 22:18:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4P3IXdE021494 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:18:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:18:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8540E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:15:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1652111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:11:52 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4P3Bpvg024893 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:11:51 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.115.167]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050525031151.CSAS7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:11:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.115.167]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050525031151.QQMS11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:11:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4293ECF1.90601@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:11:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Mareeber References: <4293E771.30904@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050524195354.027c2560@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050524195354.027c2560@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty F Clark wrote: >> I just added a bunch of Aschers to Find-a-Grave: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/bcnoz > > Why? Because it's fun to add to online resources that somebody somewhere might find useful. I really am glad in a way that that maniac send me the crazy e-mail since it did make me get back into Find-a-Graving. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 22:18:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4P3IXdE021492 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:18:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:18:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F851DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:08:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1646968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:53:12 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4P2rB38022037; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:53:12 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 63410221; Tue, 24 May 2005 19:53:11 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050524195354.027c2560@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:54:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty F Clark Subject: Re: Att: Mareeber In-Reply-To: <4293E771.30904@maynor.net> References: <4293E771.30904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:48 PM 5/24/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I just added a bunch of Aschers to Find-a-Grave: > >http://tinyurl.com/bcnoz Why? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 24 22:18:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4P3IXdE021493 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:18:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 22:18:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F853A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:14:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1651272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:04:02 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4P342Jt024062 for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:04:02 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.115.167]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050525030402.COSX7916.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:04:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.115.167]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050525030402.QOWT11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 23:04:02 -0400 Message-ID: <4293EB1C.8030608@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:03:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Mareeber References: <4293E771.30904@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4293E771.30904@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Re Find-a-Grave -- its mechanism for letting you give a place of birth or death is not ideal. E.g., if somebody was born in Alsace, your only choice is to call that France, even if it wasn't France at the time. Tis problematic. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 03:10:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4P8AidE014311 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 03:10:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 03:10:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065202A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 4:00:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1664283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 04:00:43 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4P80huq014937 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 04:00:43 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so101126rne for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 01:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.12.13 with SMTP id 13mr347947rnl; Wed, 25 May 2005 01:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?128.39.110.68? ([128.39.110.68]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 79sm185695rna.2005.05.25.01.00.42; Wed, 25 May 2005 01:00:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LHR+48z7CGUysylUcOLEz/GiNCkQ21UK5qDuKZvJWxXsUPcweTdnx1V29DRMgfCqmojM4VeqA+Eicw3hP++GNaZ4HZDCBcBNIx/zt0Msdl2/NwoecHahlEzfJkMMznIUDo5H5ah8thNV7VvC9A4OVeqZcnhC4OJgT42wFp8K5j0= Message-ID: <429430A8.7090609@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:00:40 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Mareeber References: <4293E771.30904@maynor.net> <4293EB1C.8030608@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4293EB1C.8030608@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 25.05.2005 05:03: > Re Find-a-Grave -- its mechanism for letting you give a place of birth > or death is not ideal. E.g., if somebody was born in Alsace, your only > choice is to call that France, even if it wasn't France at the time. > Tis problematic. And there you have pointed your finger at one of the great problems with historical data and location. One thing is that places can change names - Kristiania -> Oslo in 1924. As long as nothing else changes, one can always have tables which shows what some place was called at a certain time. But since 1924 the city limits of Oslo have been extende, the last time in 1952 (I believe), so there are places in the meaning of administrative geographical units that don't exist any more or the area they represent has been changed. One solution is to have tables for administrative and/or named geographical areas so that if yoy give a date and a name, you will be able to know a) which names (or other identificators*) can be used to identify that place today, and b) where (more or less), within the known named areas today is this place. *) In Norway something called "Gårds og bruksnummer" is used to identify plots of land. There are historical reasons for this two level identification, but any given plot might usually be identified by a) name (or number) of county, b) gårds og bruksnummer, e.g. 117/3. The only problem is that these arent constants either. When county borders have changed and/or counties have been united or split up, the land has often been renumbered. So it is back again to the historical table of identities and changes. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 06:56:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4PBu8dE008817 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 06:56:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 06:56:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F862BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 7:56:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1680967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 07:56:07 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4PBu7CE026557 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 07:56:07 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.83]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050525115607.LDVU8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 07:56:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.83]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050525115606.JRCR9421.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 07:56:06 -0400 Message-ID: <429467D5.4000404@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 06:56:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Mareeber References: <4293E771.30904@maynor.net> <4293EB1C.8030608@maynor.net> <429430A8.7090609@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <429430A8.7090609@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > One solution is to have tables for > administrative and/or named geographical areas so that if yoy give a > date and a name, you will be able to know a) which names (or other > identificators*) can be used to identify that place today, and b) where > (more or less), within the known named areas today is this place. Something like that would be helpful on Find-a-Grave. Even if I were able to manipulate the info to say something like Alsace, Germany (which I can't since it's set up so that you choose a country from the menu and then choose an area within that country from the next menu -- and the only way to get to Alsace is to choose France first), I would not off the top of my head be able to match just any old date to the right place name. > When county borders > have changed and/or counties have been united or split up, the land has > often been renumbered. So it is back again to the historical table of > identities and changes. I think I told here about how confused I was for a while about whether my gg-grandfather was buried in Russell County or in Lee County (AL). Turns out it's both -- it depends on whether you're talking about now or at the time he was buried. He was buried in Russell County but is now buried in Lee County -- and he's been buried only once. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 08:50:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4PDogdE020475 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:50:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:50:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F868F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 9:50:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1693845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:50:41 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4PDoftb010037 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:50:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CDD99881 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 16:50:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17657-05 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 16:50:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37996989C0 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 16:50:39 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42948294.7050303@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:50:12 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> <4293EA05.5000203@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4293EA05.5000203@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.488 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Any little clue might turn out to lead to an answer! I will admit that > the Wank situation isn't at the tippety-top of my priority list re > genealogical mysteries, but I love finding out anything and everything I > can. It's the detective work that's fun. If you could find time in your busy retirementhood you should write a book, a detective novel, so to say, the plot of it describing the very work on your family history you do. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 09:00:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4PDxwdE021432 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 08:59:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:00:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F86941@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 9:59:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1695026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:59:58 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4PDxvaB011916 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:59:57 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.83]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050525135958.XYKN16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:59:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.83]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050525135957.JMIX8760.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:59:57 -0400 Message-ID: <429484DC.2060500@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:59:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> <4293EA05.5000203@maynor.net> <42948294.7050303@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42948294.7050303@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > If you could find time in your busy retirementhood you should write a > book, a detective novel, so to say, the plot of it describing the very > work on your family history you do. I bet it's been done -- not about my personal detective work but about other people's similar experiences. Meanwhile, I just found that I have even more Ascher pictures. Haven't added them yet but will soon. There are tons of dead Aschers in Jackson. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 09:03:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4PE3idE022108 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:03:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:03:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8695C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:03:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1695293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:03:44 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4PE3hqu012478 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:03:43 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005052516020025905 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 16:02:00 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 25 May 2005 16:03:38 +0200 Message-ID: <429485BA.5030002@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:03:38 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> <4293EA05.5000203@maynor.net> <42948294.7050303@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42948294.7050303@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2005 14:03:38.0724 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CBAD240:01C56132] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv skrev 25.05.2005 15:50: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Any little clue might turn out to lead to an answer! I will admit that >> the Wank situation isn't at the tippety-top of my priority list re >> genealogical mysteries, but I love finding out anything and everything I >> can. It's the detective work that's fun. > > > If you could find time in your busy retirementhood you should write a > book, a detective novel, so to say, the plot of it describing the very > work on your family history you do. Including the question of where the body is buried and how many times? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 09:12:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4PEBsdE022912 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:11:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 09:11:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F86994@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:11:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1695815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:11:54 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4PEBr4f013537 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 10:11:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BC4999B2 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:11:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20758-09 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:11:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E634999B8 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:11:52 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4294878D.9040708@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:11:25 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> <4293EA05.5000203@maynor.net> <42948294.7050303@akad.ee> <429485BA.5030002@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <429485BA.5030002@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.49 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore kirjutas: > Kristin Sarv skrev: > >> >> If you could find time in your busy retirementhood you should write a >> book, a detective novel, so to say, the plot of it describing the very >> work on your family history you do. > > > Including the question of where the body is buried and how many times? :) Yes, I guess there might be many intriguing matters to be included. So, Natalie, although you wrote: >>>I bet it's been done -- not about my personal detective work but about >>>other people's similar experiences it's not only what meets the eye but what may lie behind it. The novel may become something like The Name of the Rose, not similar, but... I do not know. A good author would. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 11:50:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4PGoJdE003600 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:50:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:50:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F86F42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:00:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1705796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:00:17 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4PFoGLm030823 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 11:50:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 97013 invoked by uid 1003); 25 May 2005 15:50:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:50:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Mareeber Message-ID: <20050525155015.GA91173@words-l.org> References: <4293E771.30904@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050524195354.027c2560@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4293ECF1.90601@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4293ECF1.90601@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 10:11:45PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Betty F Clark wrote: > > >>I just added a bunch of Aschers to Find-a-Grave: > >> > >>http://tinyurl.com/bcnoz > > > >Why? > > Because it's fun to add to online resources that somebody somewhere > might find useful. I really am glad in a way that that maniac send me > the crazy e-mail since it did make me get back into Find-a-Graving. Reminds me of Bethany's tapes ... I mean, now we have got gmail accounts and everything, nothing's stopping us from putting them on the web ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 13:58:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4PIwDdE013187 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 13:58:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 13:58:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006536F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 14:58:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1723878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 14:58:13 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4PIwBRC026186 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 14:58:12 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4PIwBr9001994 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:58:11 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j4PIwASR001992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:58:10 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:58:10 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Name Question Message-ID: <20050525185810.GA1978@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <428FE261.5060904@maynor.net> <4290A2B9.9010903@akad.ee> <4290C8B7.2050703@maynor.net> <42934BA7.2050803@akad.ee> <20050524170940.GA26592@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42936733.1070703@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42936733.1070703@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = >I like it when Kristen posts drunk! = > = I must be drunk still, although I do not feel it any more, for I cannot = see much difference actually between this and my sober post, only = remember the feeling how I wanted to speak about all things in one = message, in one breath. = = Kristin Let's just say that usually you take more than one breath! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:28:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4PJSLdE016733 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 14:28:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 14:28:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F87838@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 15:28:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1726334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 15:28:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4PJSF5C030640 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 15:28:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so652919nzp for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.10.5 with SMTP id 5mr310167nzj; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:28:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kXj17yHAlMjfvU9U4HBrvI9YuqvOrtbJs/+lu9CEkkcaVPGSzbug+8Bh5JR95c7XzKEw5Nb3beWSDdk7N5uIykinxvjTbAROeaLsLSaJwa9ZqMKGYaQgbUrMJWIg6uNuM6aRH9JqbE1+V5uLlWjhvboOe/kWud3YzhfzA4J6SPU= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:28:12 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: For Myles Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4PJSF5C030647 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A planned statue of Elizabeth Montgomery: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/04/28/bewitched_statue_plan_bothers_bewilders/ Ben -- The telephone book is full of facts, but it doesn't contain a single idea. -- Mortimer Adler From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 14:43:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4PJh0dE018907 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 14:43:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 14:43:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00653912@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 15:43:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1727440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 15:43:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4PJgxo9032670 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 15:42:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so462601nzo for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr291616nzu; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2005 12:42:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ncR5cj0/Laxi70oQS0g4F7vLB8aDoLIJSzDnGQDUWjIHd86xSQtke4FdxIG5Dn2IaFYH4Ost0jAVdal38/p76DmPkxfHuXz7z7QTv+E7VXcX1wSfmaonYRiuEH2AZeOfesv83V+eSs0W6FamZN6Ml15bod+x2NFXcDYu3nw9B3Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505251242712bd959@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:42:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Myles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4PJgxo9032671 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I love the Peabody museum in Salem--that's where all of Edward Morse's stuff ended up. But damn, that is one fucked-up town. On 5/25/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > A planned statue of Elizabeth Montgomery: > > http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/04/28/bewitched_statue_plan_bothers_bewilders/ > > Ben > > -- > The telephone book is full of facts, but it doesn't contain a single idea. > -- Mortimer Adler > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 19:20:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q0JvdE016662 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:19:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:20:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00654652@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:19:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1757588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:19:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q0JtAa000927 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:19:56 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1006543wra for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr1578132wrd; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2005 17:19:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SShznhSX1inRiLZYer5mm7uI2elJNxanVj80roGaIZfpql9O0L81oWrhg9pOLiJGCtlYcp+t3Dk5M6HGxj94vRFXUPoGVL8EGSGor45OotId9aEcjx+YWTJjaZ4WTUmPidEFCLysqfRBOqFt7YzE2tgUnb1H4oJsE0TfsT4uqpo= Message-ID: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:19:55 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Myles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4Q0JuAa000929 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/25/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > A planned statue of Elizabeth Montgomery: > http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/04/28/bewitched_statue_plan_bothers_bewilders/ > I remember a FOAF about how Bewitched was to help introduce GLB into mainstream society surreptitiously because of how many GLB cast members there were[1] + Elizabeth Montgomery - who wasn't but who was supposed to have been able to give Hillary Clinton[2] a run for her money as to who could swing farthest to the left. "Looks like us, just a little different?" _______________________________ [1] Not just the obvious Dick York|Sergeant [2] IIRC, her staff made a claim in a NYTimes Sunday Magazine that she was a "closet conservative". I wish they'd provided a C&C warning as I was sitting & reading that in a restaurant at the time. Fortunately, one generally spews and doesn't choke when reading such things. BTW, if you do choke, you *can* perform a self-Heimlich. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 20:15:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q1FUdE021852 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:15:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:15:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006547DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:15:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1761357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:15:29 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q1FSE2006366 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:15:28 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so113988wri for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.33 with SMTP id 33mr684506wrz; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2005 18:15:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=V7KS6ddpeOxjWXPTg8+vqP6yGIWRZldl/OD3OvDuyqSRjNu1Lp/A08KYUQifpQzACyIXCXUXOzwIk/uj54LizbbAP5r4d4URXHZo3VWMlMAUIRkSWHDFY+EFLYGWO7yd/ouqCrIsOdvQETh5FkvXFcjhJJXomKmanko5Tc3ElDk= Message-ID: <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:15:28 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Myles In-Reply-To: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4Q1FUdE021852 On 5/25/05, phil paxton wrote: > > On 5/25/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > A planned statue of Elizabeth Montgomery: > > > > http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/04/28/bewitched_statue_plan_bothers_bewilders/ > > > > I remember a FOAF about how Bewitched was to help introduce GLB into > mainstream society surreptitiously because of how many GLB cast > members there were[1] + Elizabeth Montgomery - who wasn't but who was > supposed to have been able to give Hillary Clinton[2] a run for her > money as to who could swing farthest to the left. > > "Looks like us, just a little different?" > _______________________________ Sounds like an urban legend to me. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 20:31:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q1VKdE023635 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:31:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 20:31:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065466A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:31:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1762244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:31:20 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q1VJhx007927 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:31:20 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j4Q1VDfG024240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:31:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:31:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A sentence from a family history published in 1938: All of [couple]'s children married and had large families, except Esther, who was a hunchback. Poor Esther's fate doesn't concern me directly -- she's a nonpolitician relative of an upstate New York politico. But it makes me wonder: what does it mean to be a hunchback? And it never occurred to me before that there were any women hunchbacks. Is it a sex-linked genetic trait? Larry, IMFTATL --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 21:15:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q2F0dE030224 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:15:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:15:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006549A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:05:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1767192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:05:00 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q24xJJ012242 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:04:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1040738wra for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.48.25 with SMTP id v25mr1634720wrv; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:04:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fOrhZ2ufpGRD3RM9OApScrKSZqSUwjoQAAsPN8b4uqlkQAjlJNWj8pJRzjAnFmsjfRHrz9eYLZb+noE+Wjh5e5wxafq812taahfXKYczI4VvvWOR2Dc35juPjDfw/+CsOhiBNhcAPm8jNoKqP9uwr7dr4anpj/JU05CXocvpOwI= Message-ID: <4622719505052519043b7eb1ce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:04:59 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Myles In-Reply-To: <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4Q24xJJ012243 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/25/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 5/25/05, phil paxton wrote: > > I remember a FOAF about how Bewitched was to help introduce GLB into > Sounds like an urban legend to me. FOAF - Friend Of A Friend. "You're not going to believe this but it's true. It happened to a FOAF of mine." Synonym for UL - Urban Legend. p From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 21:19:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q2JYdE030724 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:19:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:19:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00654997@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:19:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1768661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:19:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q2JX0G013778 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:19:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so133298wri for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.78 with SMTP id n78mr692768wrn; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:19:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ST3gFQV8pvPBzTIAIA1AZLhdXaeJVTqgZUFHXFnbSqAhtgyLPurLIcdQK7bjK725Ui5fSbWcwDgIlXMONrjc9tUqBGOUXHn+Xfe+Hadx6HxVSY+YAWYSZL7ZQWgKaE3KYztV5PE88fJaTcAywIoNqArqnOkq6Je/aIYRr4TuEsE= Message-ID: <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:19:32 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4Q2JYdE030724 On 5/25/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > But it makes me wonder: what does it mean to be a hunchback? > > And it never occurred to me before that there were any women hunchbacks. > Is it a sex-linked genetic trait? My impression is that it can be genetic (sex-linked, I don't know) but it can also be disease-related, e.g., some forms of TB. Bonnie has a sister who as a result of TB during her childhood is hunch-backed. Basically, it is a spinal deformity that could arise, I suppose, from several factors. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 21:22:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q2MUdE031034 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:22:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:22:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006549A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:22:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1768761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:22:29 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q2MTQR014070 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:22:29 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-44.gwi.net [216.195.167.44]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4Q2MO0o087333; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:22:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050525222146.01bfbf08@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:22:09 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: For Myles In-Reply-To: <4622719505052519043b7eb1ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <4622719505052519043b7eb1ce@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:04 PM 5/25/2005, phil paxton wrote: >On 5/25/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > On 5/25/05, phil paxton wrote: > > > > I remember a FOAF about how Bewitched was to help introduce GLB into > > > Sounds like an urban legend to me. > >FOAF - Friend Of A Friend. > >"You're not going to believe this but it's true. It happened to a >FOAF of mine." > >Synonym for UL - Urban Legend. In which case, why are you perpetuating it? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 21:29:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q2TAdE031431 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:29:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:29:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00654B6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:29:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1768932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:29:10 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q2T9J6014608 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:29:09 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.82.17]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050526022909.FASH2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:29:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.82.17]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050526022909.HNGU9550.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:29:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42953473.5060801@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:29:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Mareeber References: <4293E771.30904@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050524195354.027c2560@calmail.berkeley.edu> <4293ECF1.90601@maynor.net> <20050525155015.GA91173@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050525155015.GA91173@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Because it's fun to add to online resources that somebody somewhere >> >>might find useful. I really am glad in a way that that maniac send me >>the crazy e-mail since it did make me get back into Find-a-Graving. >> >> > >Reminds me of Bethany's tapes ... I mean, now we have got gmail >accounts and everything, nothing's stopping us from putting them >on the web ... > > What are Bethany's tapes? Are you thinking about the tapes I mailed to clo? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 21:33:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q2XfdE031824 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:33:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:33:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00654AC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:33:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1769110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:33:41 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q2XfLw015115 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:33:41 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.82.17]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050526023341.FCSY2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:33:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.82.17]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050526023340.HOWZ9550.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:33:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42953582.8020401@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:33:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > And it never occurred to me before that there were any women hunchbacks. Oh yes. I knew a hunchback at camp in childhood. And then I ran into her again sometime in early adulthood. And here's the most amazing part of all -- and is something I surely told on Words-L: I saw her not many years ago at Notre Dame. She was walking into the cathedral as I was sitting on a nearby bench people-watching. It must take thick skin not to feel self-conscious being a hunchback walking into Notre Dame. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 21:46:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q2kHdE000225 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:46:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:46:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006549DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:46:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1769464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:46:17 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q2kHU9015931 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:46:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1055400wra for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with SMTP id 33mr1650415wrk; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:46:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KlnebcQOinvZ8Wat8C6Ju+TAkelp/1mY6G3dacmOcSit4NMKsVCsXls0pVAjLoQaDLNSOnV+kJzVVYwJ2F4iVYXxxytF/WXS9X27j++EpV2ZlhgustSP2hjesNsJtZ9q8BmC0l0vCryUEabmPl4nUZ8bOq7Y0mCBeTiH0fvC+O8= Message-ID: <46227195050525194670e63c70@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:46:16 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Myles In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050525222146.01bfbf08@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <4622719505052519043b7eb1ce@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050525222146.01bfbf08@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4Q2kHU9015932 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/25/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 10:04 PM 5/25/2005, phil paxton wrote: > >On 5/25/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > > On 5/25/05, phil paxton wrote: > > > > > > I remember a FOAF about how Bewitched was to help introduce GLB into > > > > > Sounds like an urban legend to me. > > > >FOAF - Friend Of A Friend. > > > >"You're not going to believe this but it's true. It happened to a > >FOAF of mine." > > > >Synonym for UL - Urban Legend. > > In which case, why are you perpetuating it? I'll go further with this when I know you aren't trolling. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 21:51:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q2psdE000877 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:51:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:51:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00654AFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:51:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1769376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:51:54 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q2fr9K015686 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:41:53 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.82.17]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050526024153.FGDK2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:41:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.82.17]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050526024153.HRUG9550.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:41:53 -0400 Message-ID: <4295376F.4070902@ra.msstate.edu> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:41:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cool Graves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Look at these two graves -- apparently a mother and son. I at first thought husband and wife, but she's much too much older than he is: http://tinyurl.com/8w439 and http://tinyurl.com/co4b5 -- -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 21:55:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q2tsdE001276 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:55:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:55:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00654B26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:55:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1770084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:55:54 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q2tsO9016871 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:55:54 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.82.17]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050526025554.FLWT2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:55:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.82.17]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050526025553.HWOF9550.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:55:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42953AB7.1090106@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:55:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cool Graves References: <4295376F.4070902@ra.msstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <4295376F.4070902@ra.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Another cool one in the same cemetery, though the picture would be better if the "Woodsmen of the World" emblem showed up clearly: http://tinyurl.com/djd47 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed May 25 21:59:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4Q2xRdE001533 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:59:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 21:59:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F88E58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:59:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1770589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:59:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4Q2xHkK017277 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 22:59:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so636309nzo for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.11 with SMTP id b11mr405760nzd; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2005 19:59:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JXYWkqafZQf53s4LumdV6TwASw6dFogvPYl86MydUlbnn0W9FuQjy5EfM/6W3ED7sIKkWTmQADHpYrvhYmSPQqKhYbojJUAHuk0s8higV+g1Sp/aVTEbuSRUYwLj84064llm//3K+eXQCsuQGz/QUa2cwpKRV26cGypd9ftU64g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052519596db92a1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 21:59:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Myles In-Reply-To: <4622719505052519043b7eb1ce@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <4622719505052519043b7eb1ce@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4Q2xHkK017279 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/25/05, phil paxton wrote: > On 5/25/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > On 5/25/05, phil paxton wrote: > > > > I remember a FOAF about how Bewitched was to help introduce GLB into > > > Sounds like an urban legend to me. > > FOAF - Friend Of A Friend. > > "You're not going to believe this but it's true. It happened to a > FOAF of mine." > > Synonym for UL - Urban Legend. Only if your friends actually have no friends. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 06:57:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QBvCdE003179 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:57:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:57:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F89DF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 7:57:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1802463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:57:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QBvBdd032515 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:57:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1043663nzp for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 04:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.10.5 with SMTP id 5mr587503nzj; Thu, 26 May 2005 04:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.4.11 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 04:57:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZhhaGhmfxL040X+JNn+Nz8jW4puHPY5VZOjto6q9Q9ypVtd6rV0uCj0NlffJPWTe6VshuijvnDb12u+R2nuAjNe2Di/Kks20EPMC+5kc/TUo2kQm0cstOP/PwFEQ+x7BeDUz5Z15tKHsLS8La8aSlzA5k3CoB+8AOxlLlB5ycLo= Message-ID: <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:57:11 +0200 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QBvBdd032517 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just received this message and I am feeling very sad: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ... Espen - I am a friend of Brad's from the University of Kentucky. (I'm the one who did the image of Brad morphing into Elvis.) I found your email address on the Words-l archive. Brad had talked to me about you a couple of years ago, when my mother and daughter were planning a trip to Norway. My mother was born there. I found out yesterday that Brad died last week. This email went out via our library's list. I had not talked with Brad in several months, and have lost touch with mutual friends so I don't have any additional details other than what is in the obituary linked below. I'm not sure if he had been active on Words-l recently, but I know you all had been so important to him. I hope you will let his Words-l friends know. I read through some of the archives last night. I found out about Brad's death after the funeral so reading your archives became like a virtual memorial service for me, which I appreciated. ... -----Original Message----- ... To: ALL-LIB@LSV.UKY.EDU Subject: Brad Grissom We've had too much sad news recently it seems. Brad Grissom (bog), a former colleague and librarian at the Ag and Biological Sciences Libraries, has died at the age of 56. His obit can be found at http://www.djournal.com/pages/story.asp?ID=193744&pub=1 . I am not aware of any services planned locally. ... --------------------- Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:11:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QCB6dE005192 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:11:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:11:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F89E0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 8:01:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1802676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:01:05 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QC14l3000450 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:01:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633AC983D2 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:01:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21696-06 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:01:03 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA1F983C3 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:01:03 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4295BA94.4040907@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:01:24 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.492 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: >I just received this message and I am feeling very sad: > > Yes, very sad. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:18:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QCI1dE005873 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:18:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:18:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F89F13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 8:18:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1804108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:18:00 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QCI0QX002188 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:18:00 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.242]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050526121800.SEQY2010.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:18:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.242]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050526121800.JEPQ8439.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:18:00 -0400 Message-ID: <4295BE75.6070109@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 07:17:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That is extremely upsetting. I started to say "shocking," and of course it's shocking also, though not totally. The minute I saw the subject header, I had a feeling what might be coming. In my occasional phone conversations with Brad after he disappeared from the list, I was not able to get a clear sense of what was going on with him -- whether he was doing better or doing worse than in earlier years. Even though he sounded ok in ways -- sounded sober and not really down, there was something about his withdrawal from Words-L that made me think he might be withdrawing from life in general. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:30:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QCUadE007872 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:30:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:30:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00655AF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 8:29:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1805375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:29:04 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QCT3D8003786 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:29:04 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 94853674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:27:06 -0400 Message-ID: <4295C10B.4080803@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:28:59 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> <4295BE75.6070109@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4295BE75.6070109@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is, indeed, very sad. I just took a look at his web page. http://www.uky.edu/~grissom/ . Perhaps, like Elvis, he remains alive "somewhere". Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:30:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QCUadE007870 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:30:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:30:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00655891@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 8:10:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1802624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:10:29 -0400 Received: from smarthost1.tiscali.dk (smarthost1.tiscali.dk [62.79.79.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QC0RFh000308 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:00:29 -0400 Received: from cpmail.dk.tiscali.com (mail.tiscali.dk [212.54.64.159]) by smarthost1.tiscali.dk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j4QBvJPY068860; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:57:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ruthanne4all3@tiscali.dk) Received: from [212.247.114.196] by cpmail.dk.tiscali.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:57:17 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:57:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4284526D0000707B@cpfe0.be.tisc.dk> From: "Mrs Ruthanne" Subject: From: Mrs. Ruthanne Ruby Martinez, Mutual Trust Reply-To: ruthanne4all3@i12.com To: ruthanne4all3@tiscali.dk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QC0TFh000327 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Mrs. Ruthanne Ruby Martinez, Mutual Trust Blessings to you. I am the above named person but now undergoing medical treatment now. I am married to Dr. Waltner De Martinez who worked with Angolan embassy in Mexico for over nine years before he died in the year 2002. We were married for eleven years without a child. He died after a brief illness that lasted for only four days. Before his death we were both born again Christians. Since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home, which the Bible is against. When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of$27.6Million (twenty-seven million six hundred thousand U.S. Dollars) with one finance/security company in Europe. Presently, this money is still with the Security Company. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next three months due to cancer problem. Though what disturbs me most is my stroke. Having known my condition I decided to donate this fund to church or better still a Christian individual that will utilize this money the way I am going to instruct here in. I want a church or individual to that will use this to fund churches, orphanages and widows propagating the word of God and to ensure that the house of the lord is maintained. The Bible made us to understand that blessed is the hand that gives. I took this decision because I don?t have any child that will inherit this money and my husband relatives are not Christians and I don't want my husbands hard earned money to be misused by unbelievers. I don't want a situation where this money will be used in an ungodly manner, hence the reason for taking this bold decision. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am going. I know that I am going to be in the bosom of the Lord. Exodus 14 VS 14 says that the lord will fight my case and I shall hold my peace. I don?t need any telephone communication in this regard because of my health, and because of the presence of my husband's relatives around me always. I don?t want them to know about this development. With God all things are possible. As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the Finance/Security Company Europe. I will also issue you a letter of authority that will empower you as the original- beneficiary of this fund. I want you and the church to always pray for me because the lord is my shepherd. My happiness is that I lived a life of a worthy Christian. Whoever that wants to serve the Lord must serve him in spirit and truth. Please always be prayerful all through your life. Any delay in your reply will give me room in sourcing for a church or Christian individual for this same purpose. Please assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated herein. Hoping to hear from you. Please reply me through my private email; ruthanne4all2@i12.com Remain blessed Mrs. Ruthanne Ruby Martinez From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:34:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QCYLdE008413 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:34:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:34:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065597E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 8:34:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1806070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:34:20 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QCYKKv004728 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:34:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1671985B5 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:34:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29022-02 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:34:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B56984EB for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:34:18 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4295C261.2060009@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:34:41 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> <4295BE75.6070109@maynor.net> <4295C10B.4080803@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4295C10B.4080803@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.493 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > This is, indeed, very sad. I just took a look at his web page. > http://www.uky.edu/~grissom/ . Perhaps, like Elvis, he remains alive > "somewhere". Can his page be added, somehow, to Words-l page? Not as a link, but as a page to be preserved? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:34:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QCYkdE008497 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:34:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:34:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00655A91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 8:34:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1806169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:34:46 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QCYkdr004812 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:34:46 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.242]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050526123446.UXFC18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:34:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.242]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050526123445.HJQF11479.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:34:45 -0400 Message-ID: <4295C263.6030402@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 07:34:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Brad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Since it's too late to send flowers, I'm going to make a memorial contribution to the Tupelo library. Would y'all like to do something together, either the library idea or something else, from Words-L, or would you rather do your own things? One problem is that I can't figure out what Kay's mailing address is. I just looked at Hoods in Smithville, MS, on switchboard.com and found four, two of whom I was pretty sure were not the right ones since they were at the same address (and were not Kay and Buddy). Of the other two, I couldn't figure out which one, if either, might be Buddy. I thought of the public library because I think that's what I did when Brad's mother died, and Brad seemed to like the idea. Here's its address, in case anybody else is interested in it: LEE COUNTY LIBRARY 219 N. Madison St. Tupelo, MS 38804-3807 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 07:48:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QCmDdE010596 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:48:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:48:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00655B0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 8:48:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1807993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:48:12 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QCmCET008296 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:48:12 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:48:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:48:03 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Brad Grissom Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very sad indeed bon voyage Col. G BrP >>> espen.ore@GMAIL.COM 5/26/2005 7:57:11 AM >>> I just received this message and I am feeling very sad: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ... Espen - I am a friend of Brad's from the University of Kentucky. (I'm the one who did the image of Brad morphing into Elvis.) I found your email address on the Words-l archive. Brad had talked to me about you a couple of years ago, when my mother and daughter were planning a trip to Norway. My mother was born there. I found out yesterday that Brad died last week. This email went out via our library's list. I had not talked with Brad in several months, and have lost touch with mutual friends so I don't have any additional details other than what is in the obituary linked below. I'm not sure if he had been active on Words-l recently, but I know you all had been so important to him. I hope you will let his Words-l friends know. I read through some of the archives last night. I found out about Brad's death after the funeral so reading your archives became like a virtual memorial service for me, which I appreciated. ... -----Original Message----- ... To: ALL-LIB@LSV.UKY.EDU Subject: Brad Grissom We've had too much sad news recently it seems. Brad Grissom (bog), a former colleague and librarian at the Ag and Biological Sciences Libraries, has died at the age of 56. His obit can be found at http://www.djournal.com/pages/story.asp?ID=193744&pub=1 . I am not aware of any services planned locally. ... --------------------- Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:04:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QD3odE012185 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:03:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:04:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00655BC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 9:03:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1809843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:03:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QD3o7Y010902 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:03:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1073287nzp for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.71.16 with SMTP id t16mr606824nza; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.4.11 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:03:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Wd1ARixVQ3kjhogzZdOkvo8wiGbsj4TEfOhD0fQnmuCU8ek99kxgJoDQ73Hex1eQa4N8WYsyrz8d6ABz5LvSgagW0CzY/8zrX5nZvvK/fFb4fblyi/wLpmGD8hdJBQkcjr2NrhN08c7TPBIKEC5nGIjuAvbXInaUGnA+NfUJv9g= Message-ID: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:03:49 +0200 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QD3o7Y010903 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I would like that as well. Espen On 5/26/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I like the idea of doing something together. > > It would be > > BrP > > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/26/2005 8:34:43 AM >>> > Since it's too late to send flowers, I'm going to make a memorial > contribution to the Tupelo library. Would y'all like to do something > together, either the library idea or something else, from Words-L, or > would you rather do your own things? One problem is that I can't > figure > out what Kay's mailing address is. I just looked at Hoods in > Smithville, MS, on switchboard.com and found four, two of whom I was > pretty sure were not the right ones since they were at the same > address > (and were not Kay and Buddy). Of the other two, I couldn't figure out > which one, if either, might be Buddy. > > I thought of the public library because I think that's what I did when > Brad's mother died, and Brad seemed to like the idea. Here's its > address, in case anybody else is interested in it: > > LEE COUNTY LIBRARY > 219 N. Madison St. > Tupelo, MS 38804-3807 > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Espen S. Ore Oslo, Norway From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:16:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QDG6dE013849 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:16:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:16:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00655C9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 9:06:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1810282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:06:06 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QD65kj011413 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:06:05 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 93048466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:04:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:06:04 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: >I would like that as well. > > > Count me in. Natalie, are you going to organize something? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:18:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QDHudE014156 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:17:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:18:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00655C9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 9:17:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1812057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:17:55 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QDHtaw013568 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:17:55 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1266751wra for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.54.56 with SMTP id c56mr1891832wra; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:17:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XusltVrI0DO9QaNzSi4pupVO3R4tfg9IR78diIFygn8zGgZ2IfZyStWEm5CZF1qKQqHOPO863lCFQvq5XbBA23pinRPedAK9f4bMz2yv9X7MZEf2GSmap6SvfVHTgy3fEJ8j0vsyAtgMm2RcMw0v1aii09CwL8VHeZu5wMMAdtk= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:17:55 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4QDHudE014156 > > My impression is that it can be genetic (sex-linked, I don't know) but it > can also be disease-related, e.g., some forms of TB. Bonnie has a sister > who > as a result of TB during her childhood is hunch-backed. Basically, it is a > spinal deformity that could arise, I suppose, from several factors. > cwv > My sister's deformity was secondary to TB of the bone. It happened before I was born and I don't know the details. But it involved taking a bone from her back to put in her leg, or vice-versa. The growth in her leg had to be stopped, still leaving one leg somewhat shorter than the other. She is shorter than the rest of us in the family. But not shorter than Karen, for example. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:19:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QDJ1dE014353 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:19:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:19:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00655BA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 9:19:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1812217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:19:00 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QDJ0CO013699 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:19:00 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1267223wra for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.3 with SMTP id l3mr1880996wrd; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:19:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RUnYGU1vKchJszx4C/seLl/v0vjQZSi9Oryhl0oqQnRL4na/37oudFNGEMRYWJW7wY2/JYXYNNvNA28O9R2fgvG789U9nFvrnfL6VcOmiJUS8zQZPbsfratU4fec73ughe4JbXBvKncdsMd7ogic3s9V06/G1KISb/+d1IZam/I= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:19:00 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4QDJ1dE014353 > > My sister's deformity was secondary to TB of the bone. It happened before > I was born and I don't know the details. But it involved taking a bone from > her back to put in her leg, or vice-versa. The growth in her leg had to be > stopped, still leaving one leg somewhat shorter than the other. She is > shorter than the rest of us in the family. But not shorter than Karen, for > example. > However, unlike the example, she married, adopted two children, and gave birth to a third child. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:20:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QDKIdE014581 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:20:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:20:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00655D6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 9:20:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1812398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:20:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QDKI20013949 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:20:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so861991nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr573697nzb; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:20:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jCzDribc5pZEMZGCow+w/stRJYkiFTyHPGkZiH9vpqOfghsj0PjdYupNTphDWnmxOVQHt35zD8E1ntgsuBv4/lhmisA4FkM5TD0NlbB7Ja469DJ39Ze3zeYiE4Kja1pUmTZWmL1HQL/gW4rlJQyKQLtwQiI3ZD1S4EPoeBaXs5Y= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052606204e4d5f78@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:20:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QDKI20013954 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, bonniemaev wrote: > My sister's deformity was secondary to TB of the bone. It happened before I > was born and I don't know the details. But it involved taking a bone from > her back to put in her leg, or vice-versa. The growth in her leg had to be > stopped, still leaving one leg somewhat shorter than the other. She is > shorter than the rest of us in the family. But not shorter than Karen, for > example. Luckily, I am not in your family. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:25:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QDPDdE015161 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:25:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:25:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8A157@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 8:57:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1808943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:57:43 -0400 Received: from web60713.mail.yahoo.com (web60713.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.216]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4QCvdDp009729 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:57:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 70884 invoked by uid 60001); 26 May 2005 12:57:38 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60713.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 05:57:38 PDT Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=cWBwtQ1FKYDue1Gz3keMG3Ve0rUnI7xucIm5edhO/S3rDAOHfYr3ee/6drWmGGORiSzRNMEAB45qvJovDBy3LrmdXoRCKPpkhxi5NZIqqaeivZBIod3FXOxQUOCLB8+XZAihPN6K3Hi1Vg8UC0rS4g4OBH5D5ZRDI7ZtRDcg/zc= ; Message-ID: <20050526125738.70882.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 05:57:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Brad Grissom To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > I found out yesterday that Brad died last week. > This email went out via > our library's list. I had not talked with Brad in > several months, and > have lost touch with mutual friends so I don't have > any additional > details other than what is in the obituary linked > below. This IS sad news. Brad seemed like a great guy with a great sense of humor, but I think he pined for his dad. A bientot, Brad. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:25:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QDPDdE015158 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:25:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:25:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8A11E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 8:55:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1808619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:55:13 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QCtCVl009297 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:55:12 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:55:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:54:49 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Brad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I like the idea of doing something together. It would be BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/26/2005 8:34:43 AM >>> Since it's too late to send flowers, I'm going to make a memorial contribution to the Tupelo library. Would y'all like to do something together, either the library idea or something else, from Words-L, or would you rather do your own things? One problem is that I can't figure out what Kay's mailing address is. I just looked at Hoods in Smithville, MS, on switchboard.com and found four, two of whom I was pretty sure were not the right ones since they were at the same address (and were not Kay and Buddy). Of the other two, I couldn't figure out which one, if either, might be Buddy. I thought of the public library because I think that's what I did when Brad's mother died, and Brad seemed to like the idea. Here's its address, in case anybody else is interested in it: LEE COUNTY LIBRARY 219 N. Madison St. Tupelo, MS 38804-3807 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:55:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QDt4dE019542 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:55:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:55:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00655EB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 9:51:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1816315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:51:09 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QDp9um022041 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:51:09 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 93054273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:49:40 -0400 Message-ID: <4295D44C.6090606@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:51:08 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I also like the of a Words-L gift. What do y'all want > to do? I like the idea of the library, particularly since you mentioned that he was pleased when you sent a contribution in his mother's name. That said, I will contribute to whatever the group decides. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 08:55:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QDt4dE019540 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:55:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:55:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00655DDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 9:45:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1815801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:45:03 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QDj3Vj020291 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:45:03 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.165]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050526134503.NHIW2061.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:45:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.165]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050526134503.QXTE11146.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:45:03 -0400 Message-ID: <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:45:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Count me in. Natalie, are you going to organize something? I also like the of a Words-L gift. What do y'all want to do? Do you want to send me money and have me combine it and send it to the Lee County Library from Words-L? (I could list the individual names under Words-L or could just say Words-L. Making out your checks to the Lee County Library would make sense. Actually I think it's something like the Lee-Itawamba Library System, but I gather from its website that the libraries are separate entities, and I'm totally confident that a check to "Lee County Public Library" or any similar wording would work.) Oh -- in case it's not clear, Lee County is where Tupelo is. The library doesn't have to be what we do, of course. Any other ideas are welcome. My gut feeling somehow is that Brad felt closer to the Tupelo area in ways than he did to Lexington, but I may be wrong. And though he was clearly a huge Kentucky sports fan, something makes me think he'd prefer a gift to some kind of smaller entity than to UofK. But again I may wrong. We can do whatever y'all think is best. Meanwhile, it would be good if somebody could try to track down Kay's snail-mail address to send with whatever we send to wherever since she has been a FOWL and would appreciate that Words-L did something as a group. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:14:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QEEFdE021860 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:14:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:14:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8A4E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 9:54:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1816549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:54:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QDrvbU022796 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:53:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so709097wra for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.79.8 with SMTP id c8mr968490wrb; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.46 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 06:53:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cilMdR1bjA7E/PVMu3aa2GErcLevUxH2wP1Cxrh/EpHkiN4flzg/3DV4iOhpW8s4OO9pB9BluKoAuxyiO4OoJRuOLmbH6pWrbRal+WBE3Z6kD0Hk5d6koAy8POAi+Z8b4LL9IEXUth59nZ91U2Mp23D1cfIbfWPD5WzL4XZ7cV8= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:53:52 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Myles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4QEEFdE021860 On 5/25/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > A planned statue of Elizabeth Montgomery: Is it a statue of Elizabeth Montgomery or of "Samantha"? -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:16:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QEGbdE022195 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:16:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:16:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00655F3F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:06:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1817850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:06:36 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QE6asJ026298 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:06:36 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:06:35 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:06:16 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Brad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes. I think this is a good idea. It might make sense to send individual checks made out to the library to Natalie who could gather them and present them as a group. This would keep both the collective and the individual nature of the gifts. BrP >>> leonard@BC.EDU 5/26/2005 9:51:08 AM >>> I like the idea of the library, particularly since you mentioned that he was pleased when you sent a contribution in his mother's name. That said, I will contribute to whatever the group decides. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:16:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QEGbdE022197 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:16:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:16:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00655DD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:15:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1819000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:15:20 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QEFJaO029445 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:15:19 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4QEFJ13015891 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:15:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:15:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 26 May 2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Yes. I think this is a good idea. It might make sense to send > individual checks made out to the library to Natalie who could gather > them and present them as a group. This would keep both the collective > and the individual nature of the gifts. Count me in, too. I am very sad about this, but like Natalie, unsurprised. I remember him vividly from our visit to Lexington some years ago. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:22:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QELsdE022756 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:21:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:21:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00655F0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:21:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1819922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:21:53 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QELrPZ031978 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:21:53 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4QELqp2007854 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:21:52 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j4QELo2d007852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:21:50 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:21:50 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther Message-ID: <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = stopped, still leaving one leg somewhat shorter than the other. She is = shorter than the rest of us in the family. But not shorter than Karen, for = example. = = = -- = --bonniev What, does Karen have a hunchback?! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:35:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QEYxdE024289 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:35:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:35:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00655E5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:34:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1821284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:34:59 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QEYwjd002414 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:34:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so905950nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr602797nzu; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 07:34:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z0NQ5xOqaguealw0ym0fXBkXPoQ3iIneBLi4168rZGqJqPNNfvZ5v3CWQfvTIGYen2CNwHVqdjChazTgFqShTdI0tTBlktWu79V20NWYnUCMGcQk2E3eNMswKhC7DWHV8HPcbMY3vVXVdrbubSgPB6G8skOKoAwwKpg6VYx6DDE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505260734201d6966@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:34:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QEYxjd002420 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, steph wrote: > = stopped, still leaving one leg somewhat shorter than the other. She is > = shorter than the rest of us in the family. But not shorter than Karen, for > = example. > = > = > = -- > = --bonniev > > What, does Karen have a hunchback?! Yes, and I squint, too. And watch out! I'll sit on your flowers. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:40:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QEeMdE024718 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:40:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:40:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00655F93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:40:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1822128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:40:21 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QEeLFx004389 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:40:21 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2005052614412911300q0uave>; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:41:29 +0000 Message-Id: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:40:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVh6jWi696xgskyTiuSVRD7mZliPwAFl28Q In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Espen Ore >Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:57 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Brad Grissom > >I just received this message and I am feeling very sad: > Another words-l giant gone! Damn! I am sad too. Rest in Peace. ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:51:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QEpYdE026109 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:51:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:51:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006560CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:51:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1823398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:51:34 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QEpCjY007289 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:51:12 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B87DC7D967490 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:51:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:51:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >>I just received this message and I am feeling very sad: >> > > Another words-l giant gone! Damn! I am sad too. Rest in Peace. > ------------ > Alec D. Plotkin I never really knew Brad, although he called me once to wish me happy New Year's and, if I remember right, to talk about quitting smoking. He was too young to go yet. How far back do our archives go? I received an email this morning from a Robert Reedy saying he read my post from 1999 about my hip surgery and wants to talk to me about it. I wondered who would be reading our old posts, or even if it's possible. Maybe he's the one who wrote to Espen about Brad? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 09:53:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QErWdE026224 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:53:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:53:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8A7EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:53:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1823538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:53:32 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QErWbP007760 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:53:32 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BEA6C5ED8956 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:53:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c56202$aab459d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:53:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Markland" To: Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Brad Grissom >>> >>>I just received this message and I am feeling very sad: >>> >> >> Another words-l giant gone! Damn! I am sad too. Rest in Peace. >> ------------ >> Alec D. Plotkin > > I never really knew Brad, although he called me once > to wish me happy New Year's and, if I remember right, > to talk about quitting smoking. He was too young to > go yet. > > How far back do our archives go? I received an email this > morning from a Robert Reedy saying he read my post > from 1999 about my hip surgery and wants to talk to me > about it. I wondered who would be reading our old posts, > or even if it's possible. Maybe he's the one who wrote to > Espen about Brad? > > - D. M. To correct myself, it was Robert Leedy. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 10:12:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QFCHdE028387 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:12:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:12:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00655FA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:12:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1825495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:12:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QFCFZW013901 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:12:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so928969nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr619306nzh; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:12:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CLha8wj2c2KFbTNavIOxO/qG67b0ApMBZZ7xYHFoKjM/fRYV9ARrIOK4kfEIy/HZqRO/qn8cKN5F/+tSQ9SZ7kvidAuR4ku0dqM4y7o4t8xxhbSGndHeCFMJGkLX0MDqHliJSiOUG9e1BthVHZY6tU+OFzn6bFa5ei1tUtvsBbM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:12:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QFCGZW013908 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > How far back do our archives go? Our posts show up on Google. The archives go back to 2000. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 10:20:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QFKYdE029051 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:20:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:20:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065619C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:20:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1826345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:20:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QFKWGB015576 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:20:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1326432wra for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.118.11 with SMTP id q11mr1970700wrc; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LcYQc571nZsBDC3/aRJGl/haoJx2d9l2zFB2+Y001Aok0HHFA6hj8J/izOK50osdFJkXe7hRbJqFr4aLRyVPMunazTd2Xxl6PqVvjzOpsEQQ48X8yG++iCpYcJPm4oUU3sv7poouriUHQjIDTWRH1o6ABnd3oK6LFbG+Fmol6Ko= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:20:32 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4QFKYdE029051 > > = stopped, still leaving one leg somewhat shorter than the other. She is > = shorter than the rest of us in the family. But not shorter than Karen, > for > = example. --bonniev > > What, does Karen have a hunchback?! > No. The point is that although my sister is shorter than the rest of family, she is not shorter than a normal, short person. Like Karen. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 10:22:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QFMAdE029239 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:22:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:22:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8A922@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:22:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1826407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:22:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QFM9Sm015776 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:22:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so935530nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.2 with SMTP id s2mr626791nzc; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:22:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ohporo2uGr/uduTlRutyVeUQuZWfQ7IzJx8Kp5T06lHa5ujlbnPA1sXNVyMpkCG3tELMryvjTvQ8llT0/d137cp7zc3o49xX0O4Ypvs0fx/3pOBPyPfCwJ5wqev91/Sv9zPD6ed9TGzD9pndQrCNSz9JOcfDBQFUU9MCLQYdfYo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:22:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QFM9Sm015777 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, bonniemaev wrote: > No. The point is that although my sister is shorter than the rest of > family, she is not shorter than a normal, short person. Like Karen. I am not the poster child for short people. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 10:44:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QFiFdE031242 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:44:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:44:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8AA3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:44:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1829097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:44:14 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QFiEw0020921 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:44:14 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 070706239AD20 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:44:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:44:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: >> How far back do our archives go? > > Our posts show up on Google. The archives go back to 2000. > > Karen you gotta be kidding. I thought we had closed something so that couldn't happen. You mean someone could have just googled for "hip surgery" and my post came up? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 10:50:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QFoRdE032007 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:50:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:50:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8AA7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:50:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1829810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:50:27 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QFoQcC022285 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:50:27 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2005052615513511100oss16e>; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:51:35 +0000 Message-Id: <200505261550.j4QFoQcC022285@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:50:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcViCe2Th5FpzbRcQvmEab2nJrcpvAAAJKZA In-Reply-To: <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Doris Markland >Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:44 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A Friend of Andy" >To: >Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:12 AM >Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > > >> On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: >>> How far back do our archives go? >> >> Our posts show up on Google. The archives go back to 2000. >> >> Karen > >you gotta be kidding. I thought we had >closed something so that couldn't happen. >You mean someone could have just >googled for "hip surgery" and my post >came up? > > - D. M. > Ha! Welcome to the internet, Doris. Alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 10:59:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QFxPdE000212 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:59:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:59:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8AAC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:59:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1831019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:59:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QFxOMS024374 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:59:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so960049nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.13 with SMTP id u13mr643697nzb; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 08:59:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ApR1koLzlbzXXu6FPy/allfom22dwFQhdrNbp8j42dmdlxCeQnxkHOjMNCtSeX8oLHwFjmHid/mF+FuX0vFfr8hvgJgYMacQmiPdutOAIkFDbaxASYNcQeyUK09ju9NCAVUiiZ7fipFO85dqEIx1D4Rm5pfL/EvcN2kvEnvV9gM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052608591d34880a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:59:22 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QFxOMS024376 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes. On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > > > > On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > >> How far back do our archives go? > > > > Our posts show up on Google. The archives go back to 2000. > > > > Karen > > you gotta be kidding. I thought we had > closed something so that couldn't happen. > You mean someone could have just > googled for "hip surgery" and my post > came up? > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:04:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QG4MdE000946 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:04:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:04:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8AB4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:04:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1831571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:04:21 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QG4LJ8025482 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:04:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D019B97884 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:04:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13556-01 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:04:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC1297386 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:04:19 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:04:15 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.495 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >>> How far back do our archives go? >> >> >> Our posts show up on Google. The archives go back to 2000. >> >> Karen > > > you gotta be kidding. I thought we had > closed something so that couldn't happen. > You mean someone could have just > googled for "hip surgery" and my post > came up? Birthdays on the Bog show up when I search for Kristin Sarv Words. No post, fortunately (only some messages with questions I've sent to a newsgroup, but that's a different thing which I just have to take into consideration). Must I search the archives of the Words-l, look up which words I've taken down during last five years and check then? I do not want my post appearing by Google. I'll survive the Birthdays' site. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:12:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGCedE002126 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:12:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:12:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00656168@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:12:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1832747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:12:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGCdfQ027410 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:12:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so968817nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.13 with SMTP id g13mr648898nzg; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:12:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jlQ/4ebplPXvjXBzdShFC2H3sycChy+Wy52p4WNzV0HBvQo3m0ZQ6Nsyp4F4YiEP1XoCf8EniBISiWl2jBXFL9nuaX+WSjPlq3f33huut77GnMVC2wQ0chqYU4NvVx1SO466vebNaSI2v7IJfASZe0CBKYsn2KL5ugJ3ZwBD8Tc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050526091265a6c6bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:12:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGCdfQ027412 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Must I search the archives of the Words-l, look up which > words I've taken down during last five years and check then? I do not > want my post appearing by Google. Removing your posts from the archive, even if you could do such a thing, wouldn't help. Doris' post about her hip predates the archives. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:14:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGE9dE002381 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:14:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:14:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8ABD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:14:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1832863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:14:09 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGE9if027660 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:14:09 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B4DEF7D967490 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:14:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:14:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just googled my name and found out when my birthday is and even found a picture of myself! (I'll post it if I can get the address tinyurled) Only one of my posts came up on this search and it was a lengthy glowing review of a then recent trip to Hawaii. (I think the Hawaii Tourist Board should pay me bucks for it.) I shudder to think of people finding and reading some of the personal details I put on this list. Well, there goes the neighborhood. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:25:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGPIdE003863 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8AC04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:22:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1833776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:22:29 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGMS3h029153 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:22:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CB898699 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:22:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16923-09 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:22:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F419A065 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:19:17 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:19:25 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.496 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >>> >>> Our posts show up on Google. The archives go back to 2000. >>> >>> Karen >> > > Birthdays on the Bog show up when I search for Kristin Sarv Words. No > post, fortunately Doris Markland hip surgery doesn't have any hits, either. Will you give some example, Karen, how a message shows up there? -- We here, in this service, can read the archives anyway, so you may just refer to any message that can be found via Google. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:25:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGPIdE003871 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8AC15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:17:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1833235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:17:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGHWr3028327 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:17:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so972258nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.3 with SMTP id s3mr651995nzc; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:17:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FJUwCKSZco3KZj5wqt9QVbVNO00TKFb+i+l2Oq2164a4qn3ZKcHNHNkdADX9pfbtuUgNK/JW+BUk9wcRZ/DQFzGOJ3NXsCeLMim/hAdeB8oLio/HtxEhYas1Ci3aDrJkTskM6ksYZar9dRs47QcXf1w0yxUMi0gCQ5R3E1/gI6g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505260917101b65f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:17:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGHWr3028328 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Well, there goes the neighborhood. I don't understand why you're acting like this is news. I know I've mentioned this in the past--and I don't know if you remember my friend Gary, but he explicitly stated that he found Words-l by googling. He didn't know that I was a meeber. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:25:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGPIdE003869 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8AC08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:18:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1833294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:18:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGIB1g028416 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:18:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so972726nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.18 with SMTP id h18mr655926nzh; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:18:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hdREp4EotllX4BM/N50g5S6XaLfEvElO6C0XQ+yZ0ZGMCegw/zKJ0tgJz8PSW2iUaQT5z6ZIMAbFgaRdYD7WBSkQrq2H/cvrDnOG8/B/hniKHGpESpzK6JJQnRxvcXDI3/f6/RXrZB9qUOM57sC8IwAbC+Y6FmZEF6i36PxPpeg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050526091854db7aa3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:18:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <4622719505052609174fcdef3e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a7050526091265a6c6bd@mail.gmail.com> <4622719505052609174fcdef3e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGIC1g028417 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There is also The Internet Archive. On 5/26/05, phil paxton wrote: > On 5/26/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 5/26/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > > Must I search the archives of the Words-l, look up which > > > words I've taken down during last five years and check then? I do not > > > want my post appearing by Google. > > > > Removing your posts from the archive, even if you could do such a > > thing, wouldn't help. Doris' post about her hip predates the archives. > > And there are the "archives" - Google's cache and the Internet Wayback > Machine. The Wayback Machine doesn't always seem to have a rhyme or > reason as to what it saves & when, but it's nice when all else fails. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:25:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGPIdE003865 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8ABE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:15:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1833013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:15:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGFHwi027920 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:15:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so970653nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.14 with SMTP id j14mr650144nzj; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:15:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=iHvRYy+BvML2aqpB3KYst6zLe0uHlpLYsy5pg+kp4RnfI0TMdukGBWQe5O7mq6TTZq7IiQUKUApi0nO5gwOhmjmwUxkEHGO4VkKg76NTPURhh/NN7qkCX9UNl6ShpDiNs+9fVDwwhcBSuH3qPB3JSW7L/hu+u3DPNq0N5e5Gkjk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050526091531d2f107@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:15:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Speaking of cat toys... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGFHwi027922 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The ball I bought Nanook that at first he disdained, he now adores, and plays soccer with constantly. We go for our first vet visit together (he gets booster shots) today; should be interesting. I want some kitty tranquilizers. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:25:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGPIdE003870 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8AC11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:17:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1833199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:17:12 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGHBFk028273 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:17:12 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1247962wri for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.49.26 with SMTP id w26mr2004002wrw; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:17:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NR3rhILttqGR31hMGgVbNRP8i/o+imlzqvEIt2nPyliwK37IN8GcOS1C0z/4vrHk4ezNiYXprMJ9hkTQMworksvNrTJVdzOrtpI3i0GWIz2iKez1KUXid5LtM12aKC5NrFds27Fzu8XXnJvYZw1hJJoT+SDisusmVUOtxLSTYBY= Message-ID: <4622719505052609174fcdef3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:17:11 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050526091265a6c6bd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a7050526091265a6c6bd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGHCFk028275 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/26/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > Must I search the archives of the Words-l, look up which > > words I've taken down during last five years and check then? I do not > > want my post appearing by Google. > > Removing your posts from the archive, even if you could do such a > thing, wouldn't help. Doris' post about her hip predates the archives. And there are the "archives" - Google's cache and the Internet Wayback Machine. The Wayback Machine doesn't always seem to have a rhyme or reason as to what it saves & when, but it's nice when all else fails. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:25:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGPIdF003863 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8AC74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:25:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1834071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:25:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGPEvM029545 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:25:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so977019nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.3 with SMTP id s3mr655391nzc; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:25:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qwfDUWA1utsbyp659hofRJQgRucjPhSHnz9hAojmKOZmguf9IXWY3PIQOZKZpfSTrR1gIpyj1bb23Atoyp1TmLA7ZMDXLBYkBGRfB44NC/woWK9bsED0248Y9rawF/uBa+sfz5mvFR+/Ts9x0MXVZ+SrEI77LRN7Cgl4ZtbWJwg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGPEvM029548 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Google on Doris' name. Anyone who's mentioned in the Glossary shows up. Karen On 5/26/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >>> > >>> Our posts show up on Google. The archives go back to 2000. > >>> > >>> Karen > >> > > > > Birthdays on the Bog show up when I search for Kristin Sarv Words. No > > post, fortunately > > Doris Markland hip surgery doesn't have any hits, either. Will you give > some example, Karen, how a message shows up there? -- We here, in this > service, can read the archives anyway, so you may just refer to any > message that can be found via Google. > > Kristin > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:41:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGfHdE005452 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:41:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:41:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00656200@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:41:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1834776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:41:17 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGfHMM031489 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:41:17 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DF6DC14D5243 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:41:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:41:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > Google on Doris' name. My name does not bring up a hip post. I tried using several key words relating to my hip surgery and it didn't bring up anything. So I wrote the guy and asked how he found it. He hasn't replied yet. I can't figure out why my name brought up that one post about Hawaii, when you think of all the hundreds of posts I've made. All of this is very puzzling. I guess I begin to see why so many executives are in a sweat. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:46:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGk2dE005993 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:46:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:46:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8AC69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:26:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1834148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:26:01 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGQ1Hp029642 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:26:01 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A88CC61DD0586 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001501c5620f$93eecf20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260917101b65f1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:25:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:17 AM Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: >> Well, there goes the neighborhood. > > I don't understand why you're acting like this is news. I know I've > mentioned this in the past--and I don't know if you remember my friend > Gary, but he explicitly stated that he found Words-l by googling. He > didn't know that I was a meeber. > > Karen Because I distinctly remember that we discussed whether the door should be open or shut . . whatever that meant, since I don't understand the list setup . . and we voted we did not want people to be able to read our posts. Am I the only one who remembers this? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:50:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGoUdE006512 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:50:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:50:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8ACFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:50:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1835227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:50:30 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGoT7O032338 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:50:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0C397445 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:50:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23468-01 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:50:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961F497370 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:50:28 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4295FE0D.7040905@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:49:17 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.453 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Yes. I think this is a good idea. It might make sense to send >individual checks made out to the library to Natalie who could gather >them and present them as a group. This would keep both the collective >and the individual nature of the gifts. > >BrP > >>>>eonard@BC.EDU 5/26/2005 9:51:08 AM >>> >>>> >>>> > >I like the idea of the library, particularly since you mentioned that >he >was pleased when you sent a contribution in his mother's name. That >said, I will contribute to whatever the group decides. > >Rita L. > > I would participate if I could get good advice. Recently I said I've never written a check, I was wrong. I have, once, to a bookshop abroad. I needed all kinds of bank official requisites, and the account number of the shop in that bank, if I remeber correctly. So, getting to know all about the latter is one thing, the other is: what might be the sum? An average price of a book? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:51:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGosdE006534 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:50:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:51:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8ACEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:50:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1835244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:50:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGostk032403 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:50:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1203351nzp for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.72.4 with SMTP id u4mr710089nza; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FzJEe+lTBaatC6ZZ9qukfAbslXEadrq8M21MZ4W2QaLvOGa2IFZkLARyyewXBg0a3OSvoiMAfK4P/9650XGEByD/4nRgm81e3b+xaxjcllTliCV61KH3mZVlwJpctfVpQBdTZBcJyYlH3W00cLUoiB7SR13MXcYSMGFtIDzQ2HY= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:50:53 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Myles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGostk032404 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hard to say. "to honor the late Montgomery with a 9-foot bronze statue in a city infamous for its 17th century persecution of people feared to be witches. The statue would depict Montgomery sitting sidesaddle on a broom." Seems like it's a statue of her (intended to look like a real person) but depicting her playing that role. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:55:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGt5dE007003 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:55:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:55:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8AD24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:55:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1835517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:55:04 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGt4xc000524 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:55:04 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D6F331A5356D0 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:55:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c56213$a4d9e050$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:54:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I googled again using my name and some different key words. It brought up another long post about Hawaii, written yet another year. It had no relationship to the key words I used. I'm having trouble understanding the logic of google. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:56:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGu8dE007119 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:56:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:56:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8AD27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:56:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1835547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:56:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGu7hi000639 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:56:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1206309nzp for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.19.12 with SMTP id 12mr721676nzs; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:56:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pl7+bEEbTBFWiAWE/4PnFPhfrS+AhB4KkTLhij14bj3pneifWuTY/xCt22Pc4n3I1ehZS90bYXestuFwGMiWJoVSAbsAgwXsZCpMuDz4ZFDVllVwQ0nQLZsV44056E3+1axfQVmMdEQjtvefzLQlv1LG/dDA64jPHGkVuDyTrlI= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:56:07 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGu7hi000641 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Son of a bitch! One less librarian, one less philosophy major... this sucks. Ben pissed off From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:56:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGuedE007203 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:56:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:56:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8ACDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:56:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1835596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:56:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGudmB000738 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:56:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so996228nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.14 with SMTP id j14mr669348nzj; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ROr5aQpCV8nguQGVmQQlJmIWcrDGosZ+3OLBiAEvw7DWCe6CHGK2nk1eDJtdnwEvlr2FuBK7ugzeE75nxNNabuy0/FNWzAxRSZ8OG/W7UccUfjrJ7ijUUzXQ4fNvIndNNYLfNaYPwrPO/BLZgSCJSnJn0Cmd3tOEhgtH5VfCR+Y= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052609563241bd53@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:56:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <001501c5620f$93eecf20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260917101b65f1@mail.gmail.com> <001501c5620f$93eecf20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGudmB000739 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Because I distinctly remember that we discussed > whether the door should be open or shut . . whatever > that meant, since I don't understand the list setup . . > and we voted we did not want people to be able to > read our posts. Am I the only one who remembers > this? I remember talking about the Usenet gateway. But the kind of stuff like that guy finding your post about your hip, is out of our control. It's a brave, new world! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:57:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGvUdE007338 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:57:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:57:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8AD36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:57:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1835667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:57:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGvT8G000950 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:57:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so996722nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.12 with SMTP id h12mr668217nzh; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:57:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mcPBec6od60v1f8hT76EZC5NOz+c44MJQ7ScBk/RU1g2098ynATTzv8ojgvbgXdQdd62uliL8Ox/Xcp6Z52PSag/0B1NdpltkCLyX/9aaVH9VdcwiIsehBYLSd7o47pPN/Bg1nsjIoytA2Yni6ixG+udfGfSX8IDugfVmQL8bQc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:57:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGvT8G000951 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > I guess I begin to see why so many executives are > in a sweat. Huh? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 11:57:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QGvUdF007338 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:57:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 11:57:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8AD24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:57:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1835676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:57:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QGvVFq000963 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:57:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1207117nzp for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.18.7 with SMTP id 7mr719059nzr; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 09:57:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=A+G8A+shFCENUla/u/N2Mt1mTmahR/rGZNEwEVt1WMQGRjmZmW/iAvaxo56ryRKI1bbnILyyHJNX9bXmS7e3Gf/yTe4i0++So2XjTM2eJpaOFF88McGBeCEQbPe7kWITAeAOR1XOUyIuyTM+G3RXuGELHK47YVQaGeaQ2IQ7lMw= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:57:31 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <42953582.8020401@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <42953582.8020401@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QGvWFq000964 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It must take thick skin not > to feel self-conscious being a hunchback walking into Notre Dame. *snort* Well-said. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:11:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QHBhdE009361 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:11:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:11:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8AD80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:11:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1836430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:11:42 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QHBf5C003409 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:11:41 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DF0093CE362 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:11:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:11:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: >> I guess I begin to see why so many executives are >> in a sweat. > > Huh? > > Karen Old personal emails are being brought up and used as evidence in court trials. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:17:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QHHqdE010311 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:17:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:17:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8ADD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:17:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1837613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:17:51 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QHHp3k004598 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:17:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC6798149 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:17:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27715-01 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:17:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E78098039 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:17:50 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42960475.3000305@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:16:37 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <42953582.8020401@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.211 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>It must take thick skin not >>to feel self-conscious being a hunchback walking into Notre Dame. >> >> > >*snort* Well-said. > It's all up to the movie! If people were reminded more of books and less on cheap films and comics made on them they shouldn't worry for such things. Quasimodo had many other characteristics beside having the hunch. (Sorry, I haven't seen the film, but am prejudiced.) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:19:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QHJ4dE010532 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:19:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:19:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8AE1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:19:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1837731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:19:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QHJ4Fh004821 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:19:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1009069nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.2 with SMTP id s2mr685293nzc; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:19:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tFTkvHaZ1T1ccgLuKySGsG24PHGKPZe3ls4h/UoN1rYLsC9mf8JydepYY6VDyiCqRnhh4rcd+vWDSI0V1DkAC3cqBzg8+AFTWeYaYc8jsuYpU+MY6e/Lq9uVtz2cGL5DV24PRHkr0Yu5WsDPvy0hXraqPu1cSs/zDc7CLAbT+Qc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:19:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QHJ4Fh004822 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Old personal emails are being brought up and used > as evidence in court trials. Mail sent to/from a company machine is not personal. Mail sent to Words-L is not personal. If this mail was sent to/from personal machines, I'm very surprised that it's been used in trials. I thought the sender owns their e-mail, as the sender owns letters. Do you have a specific case in mind? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:20:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QHKRdE010767 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:20:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:20:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065639A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:10:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1836389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:10:26 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QHAPSA003193 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:10:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBF197DA7 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:10:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26021-05 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:10:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D303197370 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:10:24 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <429602BF.50804@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:09:19 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260917101b65f1@mail.gmail.com> <001501c5620f$93eecf20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609563241bd53@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052609563241bd53@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.262 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > >>Because I distinctly remember that we discussed >>whether the door should be open or shut . . whatever >>that meant, since I don't understand the list setup . . >>and we voted we did not want people to be able to >>read our posts. Am I the only one who remembers >>this? >> >> > >I remember talking about the Usenet gateway. But the kind of stuff >like that guy finding your post about your hip, is out of our control. >It's a brave, new world! > At least from some time on I've started to be more careful with my post. Trying not to be *too* personal, not to mention full names, not to speak about any skeletons that may wait hidden in sb's cupboard only to be let out by Google. However, since then, that "some time", I've also just been thinking, what the heck! if a stranger will read my more or less personal post. If there's nothing that could harm any of my friends or family members, or maybe myself, let the stranger read, although I wouldn't like it. (Well, a mean person may abuse anything, any kind of post, but I've decided not to be that paranoid.) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:40:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QHebdE013541 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:40:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:40:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065639A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:40:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1839527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:40:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QHeaWZ008303 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:40:36 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1396880wra for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.139.7 with SMTP id m7mr2040614wrd; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 10:40:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bKP7SDWWuowOIap2FOhJeRZnmr7zrItxqbKlXND6ZerugOkRAPVFj0yzm+AVGaM5MXbYbgmdcbmPfX4F8OWyoB+hUOhEUSKjGnLUUYosAO1WrkY53w67wsU5zax3ToNfpXm7/ky674h2AD3RCp347OCe7u5bDGzDUQmzdP+Fvp8= Message-ID: <46227195050526104069051fbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:40:36 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Googling Words-L Archives In-Reply-To: <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QHeaWZ008306 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:57 AM > > On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > >> I guess I begin to see why so many executives are > >> in a sweat. > > Huh? > > Karen > Old personal emails are being brought up and used > as evidence in court trials. > > - D. M. Not only that, Microsoft has been nailed several times in court (and lost) for email. e.g. When Windows first came out and was started up as a regular program on top of DOS - back before they claimed Windows didn't need DOS. There was a question whether Windows should be capable of running on competitors' versions of DOS; e.g. DR-DOS: "We're sorry, but this version of DOS isn't capable of running Windows." n.b. "this version" not "DR-DOS", "IBM-DOS", or "this manufacturer's version of DOS" The [internal Microsoft] response was along the lines of "...if you can make it absolutely, positively foolproof that Windows will *always* run on MS-DOS, then add such code. The courts are now taking email and the *lack* of email into consideration, regardless of whether the company is plaintiff or defendant. i.e. if a company is unable to produce an archived body of email, particularly if there are gaps, they are starting to get slapped by the courts. The same is now going for blogs. Companies, regardless of size|scope, have had to scramble to create employee policies regarding content and the stated association (or lack thereof) to their employer. There is fear companies will try to exert pressure upon those who provide no relationship to their employer because an association and endorsement could still be established and the deep pocket strategy would take over. The question is how effective an effort would be if someone attempted to bring into evidence the online activities of someone before they came into the current employee. It shouldn't be used, but I suppose a pattern could be established. I suppose one could (and should) become a poseur. And that brings something to mind: I love reading in the news and watching episodes on TV where a school's or district's administrative staff exerts pressure upon a student for something they put on their web site. I haven't figured out why those kids would identify themselves. I would think it would be far more interesting to see everyone's reaction and watch the witch hunt, particularly if they had some presumption as to who would be the most probable of suspects [and were wrong]. (it sounds like college) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:47:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QHladE014287 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:47:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:47:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8AF3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:47:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1839975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:47:36 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QHlZ5Y009130 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:47:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j4QHlXRZ008728 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:47:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42960BBA.10707@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:47:38 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > you gotta be kidding. I thought we had > closed something so that couldn't happen. > You mean someone could have just > googled for "hip surgery" and my post > came up? Essentially yes. Nobody anticipated that some day there would be 1). a web archive for words-l, 2). that it would be publicly viewable, and 3). that Google would make it easily available. It's simple to change the web archive to private members-only viewing, but there are so many cached copies of old web sites out there that it would be purely an academic exercise to change things now. This was the first I'd heard of Brad's passing. I have had a photo of him, John Hannum, and some other fellow on my desk all these years. He's one of the original wordslers and I'll miss reading his posts. Although he's been gone from the list for a long time it's different knowing there will never be any more. -a From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 12:53:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QHrhdE014993 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:53:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:53:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8AF81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:53:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1840523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:53:39 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QHrcD4010369 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:53:38 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j4QHra03000423 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:53:37 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200505261753.j4QHra03000423@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:53:36 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia took a picture of Brad: http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/dikter/brad.html Brad once wrote that not a day went by without his thinking of his southern odyssey with Marcia: http://www.words-l.org/whtm/bg/brad-marcia-brad.htm http://www.words-l.org/whtm/mf/mftravel.html The "evil twin" sobriquet derives from Brad's sister Kay, who when I met her and her daughter and husband in Stockholm immediately noted that I was Brad's twin. I never met Brad. His death is a big lump of sadness to me. Marcia and I have both lost a little bit of our attachment to this world. It's a brush with the sense of life of very old people whose friends are all dead and gone. In the last message Brad wrote to me, he said that things were fine in Lexington. "In less than two years, I have lost my mother, my father, my dog, my best drinking buddy, not to mention Gregory Peck et al. It is all part of God's plan, is it not?" The cats have recently taken to studying Buddhism and chanting the prajnaparamitra mantra ("The cat version is always better"). This is because they tend to follow Marcia's interests. They say, on hearing of the death of Marcia's friend: No ignorance and also no ending of ignorance to no old age and death and also no ending of old age and death. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 13:15:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QIFodE018027 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:15:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:15:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8B098@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:15:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1842823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:15:50 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QIFn2Y014957 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:15:50 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4QIFhqI024233 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:15:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:15:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <001501c5620f$93eecf20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Message-ID: References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260917101b65f1@mail.gmail.com> <001501c5620f$93eecf20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 26 May 2005, Doris Markland wrote: > Because I distinctly remember that we discussed > whether the door should be open or shut . . whatever > that meant, since I don't understand the list setup . . > and we voted we did not want people to be able to > read our posts. Am I the only one who remembers > this? I remember when the Usenet gateway was closed. That made our posts considerably less accessible to the outside world at the time. And I don't think the postings since the closing are on Google. If I Google for "lawrence kestenbaum", I get 67,600 hits. If I add to that search "words-l", the hit count drops to 5, pretty much a few featured pieces on Words-L's own web site. Similarly, if I Google for "larry kestenbaum", I get 3,360 hits. If I add "words-l" to that, I get 2. Given that I have posted hundreds of times to Words-L since the Usenet gateway closed, and none of those posts (except those on public display) show up via Google, I don't think the post-gateway-closing archives is subject to Googling. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 14:15:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QJEudE024849 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:14:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:15:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8B325@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:14:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1848974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:14:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QJEtds025798 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:14:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so19199nzp for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.159.14 with SMTP id h14mr66003nze; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.4.11 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:14:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Fzkv4VTOKf/znSnlz4QcFsQcUP+SHjMGtWQvXEiMJr3xzkwgmjLJ4U/6Z/aQSNjRKdY9BPvJHizDR7m4bJrDwZ7U5jMVZPWfWOcVI/bn0K24FJhcQNcd6ascJumhhEMqQgWn3F8jJ4NYlOr+EnSxYH5V/jAQYbQ4K3nFwCG05sU= Message-ID: <3c1d5b500505261214190902c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:14:55 +0200 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <200505261753.j4QHra03000423@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261753.j4QHra03000423@sm.luth.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QJEtds025799 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > > The cats have recently taken to studying Buddhism and chanting the > prajnaparamitra mantra ("The cat version is always better"). This > is because they tend to follow Marcia's interests. They say, on > hearing of the death of Marcia's friend: > > No ignorance and also no ending of ignorance to no old age and death > and also no ending of old age and death. > and maybe they continue like this? : Also, There is No Truth of Suffering, Of the Cause of Suffering, Of the Cessation of Suffering, Nor of the Path." There is No Wisdom, and There is No Attainment Whatsoever." Because There is Nothing to Be Attained, The Bodhisattva Relying On Prajna Paramita Has No Obstruction in His Mind. Because There is No Obstruction, He Has no Fear," And He passes Far Beyond Confused Imagination. And Reaches Ultimate Nirvana. -- Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 14:36:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QJacdE027668 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:36:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:36:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8B447@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:36:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1850722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:36:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QJaa4m029188 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:36:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1087273nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.135.13 with SMTP id i13mr199929nzd; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 12:36:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RMNEIciFKNWK/cbOOoA17WZoaR8+4pYxVMX1zIQOM72Foimn6f7cooFtW9gCsdwhNdCzIASxcI1gAZigmljvw08rKCXOT0pUsDFWOxwvkAA8wpRbxSz1a6Zs1AqVuUSv2j+pctDwZpO3ceA+7/ZN4yTL/KRjnQtHDVVX2rKLZIQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505261236658a6c02@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:36:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b500505261214190902c7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261753.j4QHra03000423@sm.luth.se> <3c1d5b500505261214190902c7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QJab4m029193 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Espen Ore wrote: > and maybe they continue like this? : > > Also, There is No Truth of Suffering, > Of the Cause of Suffering, > Of the Cessation of Suffering, Nor of the Path." > There is No Wisdom, and There is No Attainment Whatsoever." > Because There is Nothing to Be Attained, > The Bodhisattva Relying On Prajna Paramita Has > No Obstruction in His Mind. > Because There is No Obstruction, He Has no Fear," > And He passes Far Beyond Confused Imagination. > And Reaches Ultimate Nirvana. I like the idea of Giggles and Brad as Words-L Bodhisattvas. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 14:57:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QJvMdE030059 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:57:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:57:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8B51A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:57:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1852350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:57:22 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QJvMIC032195 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:57:22 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 27EAB175A9794 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:57:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000f01c5622d$1b7ca0d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:57:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: >> Old personal emails are being brought up and used >> as evidence in court trials. > > Mail sent to/from a company machine is not personal. Mail sent to > Words-L is not personal. > > If this mail was sent to/from personal machines, I'm very surprised > that it's been used in trials. I thought the sender owns their e-mail, > as the sender owns letters. Do you have a specific case in mind? > > Karen No. I don't know where the emails come from . . just hear phrases on the news that sound like they're talking about inter-office memo type discussions and comments, etc. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:22:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QKMkdE001477 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:22:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:22:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8B562@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:02:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1852953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:02:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QK2hkA000629 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:02:44 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1100749nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.5 with SMTP id b5mr755135nzd; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:02:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WP7kR3pRdZSr4Qd02evXtsbP6EFoP5z6cl4JWMe2FHd02rL+kgPIlPV1eSLPzhilVP/LihAj3ip6LQPoCU4Ap3MLfG+ZJorlR50pBfPm575cWTNZaXy20WviO+76FN8dKDHIP4nG3lL7b8fpPXtl1OlutW2TYdTEY5JBr3fYJfA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050526130266f9e8ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:02:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <000f01c5622d$1b7ca0d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c5622d$1b7ca0d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QK2ikA000630 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > > > > On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > >> Old personal emails are being brought up and used > >> as evidence in court trials. > > > > Mail sent to/from a company machine is not personal. Mail sent to > > Words-L is not personal. > > > > If this mail was sent to/from personal machines, I'm very surprised > > that it's been used in trials. I thought the sender owns their e-mail, > > as the sender owns letters. Do you have a specific case in mind? > > > > Karen > > No. I don't know where the emails come from . . > just hear phrases on the news that sound like > they're talking about inter-office memo type > discussions and comments, etc. Ah, well. They are idiots, then. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:27:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QKR4dE001966 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:27:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:27:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00656A27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:17:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1854711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:17:03 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QKH3ZE003106 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:17:03 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so381352rnf for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.75.4 with SMTP id x4mr624634rna; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:17:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OKKO9jlg2buvE+Xvky2sbc1Ks6eghr3v3UqTPD8rWg83nabKfeZYfk9HBErPJxxR2NGxgRLKDQSjbbJ1+E7OgCrSmg2vUZJz5pNXDYiMgbS5725Uzz3/qO7Hj3WPVLy4eSYSmSI7LLgPBUU+VyZKti2m8QjuVdIIgZum2fFy6vE= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:17:03 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QKH3ZE003107 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Old personal emails are being brought up and used > > as evidence in court trials. > > Mail sent to/from a company machine is not personal. Mail sent to > Words-L is not personal. > > If this mail was sent to/from personal machines, I'm very surprised > that it's been used in trials. I thought the sender owns their e-mail, > as the sender owns letters. Do you have a specific case in mind? Email stored anywhere can be subpoenaed or uncovered under a search warrant. That has little or nothing to do with whether Google and the like are capturing things posted to a list like Words-L. Although there may well be no official Words-L gateway to anywhere else, there may be all sorts of unofficial leaks onto Googlable places. Some other lists I am on have "subscribers" who are actually Listserv-like redistributors, and I vaguely remember that there was at least one of these subscribed to Words-L at one point. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 15:35:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QKZQdE003297 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:35:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:35:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8B6CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:25:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1856337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:24:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QKOCRt004373 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:24:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1111389nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.14 with SMTP id j14mr761097nzj; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:24:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f+iSLDe4092CKXzectzIcBxC5p599pLUfKycULLhXDPgU3i+uFO0Nl/IHcFGZ/1tROzfqn1tAwMZCpRx0NyHbDVohcZKC8GeX7r8pzJsSvJrxHhA1fAxEnFtbEJRCNZmIhbJOlBvHhNIAyW0bORzKbdY7vrYrwP3o2Drp/RZiTU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052613241acde3da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:24:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QKODRt004374 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > Some other > lists I am on have "subscribers" who are actually Listserv-like > redistributors, and I vaguely remember that there was at least one of > these subscribed to Words-L at one point. The Brown thingy. Redistributor. But that was in the early days. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:16:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QLGndE010285 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:16:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:16:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8B90F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:16:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1860456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:16:49 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QLGW0r011142 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:16:32 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so391528rnf for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.79.45 with SMTP id c45mr641492rnb; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:16:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m3EEITjhGntN3h5lMQbyndlGE7AmIxoOphtE5P3wb0OQFOn3ZBVCuhq+kFHJsj3yxnlyFAolS8+gKAyt0k6sH5sNo6OIHOdzMJK7bSlbArBdgp2GHan42krMjoE66jwt3vv1b4DWaTFRZPhGNhh68rqsaFKkExGhhQ1FyyimPCM= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:16:32 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052613241acde3da@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052613241acde3da@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QLGW0r011144 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/26/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > > Some other > > lists I am on have "subscribers" who are actually Listserv-like > > redistributors, and I vaguely remember that there was at least one of > > these subscribed to Words-L at one point. > > The Brown thingy. Redistributor. But that was in the early days. No, not the Brown thingy - a much more recent thing. Some address like WORDS-L@blah.blah.tw was subscribed and generating error messages. Someone in Asia was collecting Words-L posts, perhaps for ESL purposes. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:33:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QLXXdE012326 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:33:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:33:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00656B6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:04:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1859985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:04:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QL4nJn009987 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:04:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1131108nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.12 with SMTP id h12mr776214nzh; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:04:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fzWqBmkNicUl4iYOVBscBXjXKfOFQPrx7jC32EGrL9BbJSWRQBaY6XrUXNL8gJFf5DA9buRaGKsaBwNCLE/gtCXMNobEndzwjqsbsnw6+NPr9ZOuIsA2+fyunGX9T71HNWP84bkMnuTk2lgl/0jQL1KaUGb+FzsIcTzM8LDcme8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052614045e775ac0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:04:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <429639A2.1090800@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052613241acde3da@mail.gmail.com> <429639A2.1090800@bc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QL4oJn009988 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > Many here checked words-l out and > elected not to subscribe because of the volume. People who posted? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:33:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QLXXdE012328 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:33:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:33:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00656C07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:03:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1859755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:03:32 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QL3VkT009750 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:03:31 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 93117758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:02:01 -0400 Message-ID: <429639A2.1090800@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:03:30 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052613241acde3da@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052613241acde3da@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >The Brown thingy. Redistributor. But that was in the early days. > > > A lot of places had something akin to a redistributor back then. We had one here. The intent was to limit the volume of email to our servers. They were pretty wimpy at the time. Messages were posted to a "bulletin board" where all could read them. They also allowed people to "sample" lists without actually subscribing. Many here checked words-l out and elected not to subscribe because of the volume. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:33:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QLXXdE012325 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:33:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:33:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00656B98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:16:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1860461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:16:49 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QLGWlI011143 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:16:32 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 94928041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:14:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42963CB0.9020607@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:16:32 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Redistributors References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052613241acde3da@mail.gmail.com> <429639A2.1090800@bc.edu> <8ddfc8a705052614045e775ac0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052614045e775ac0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/26/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > > >>Many here checked words-l out and >>elected not to subscribe because of the volume. >> >> > >People who posted? > > Not that I remember. Most just read and then gave up. There was one who actually subscribed to the list in the first few days, as I did. He unsubbed after a few months and had only posted a few times. He is the person who started the "murder of crows" thread. Another lurked for a couple of years but I don't know if he ever posted. He was more active on vwar-l where he knew Don Moore. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 16:33:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QLXXdE012327 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:33:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 16:33:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00656AAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:24:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1860798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:24:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QLOLF8012055 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:24:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1140186nzo for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.14 with SMTP id j14mr786192nzj; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ul7jlYf7lLw0KYtM9wHd3DFgHwgI6hBJ69TD0z88jsN0Fl6fD4SqTjltt3hy2mzsoyrKlY87BMdlZ6l/vb3nt1H76OTAbvyZnrqANGpE4RaAH47y18MYhNdkT8/v75b9vfYPMhOzP8IVj/gt1gaMEYmUcrFXP8wBi3ueSoM4/5Y= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052614245f569980@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:24:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052613241acde3da@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4QLOMF8012056 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 5/26/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 5/26/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > > > Some other > > > lists I am on have "subscribers" who are actually Listserv-like > > > redistributors, and I vaguely remember that there was at least one of > > > these subscribed to Words-L at one point. > > > > The Brown thingy. Redistributor. But that was in the early days. > > No, not the Brown thingy - a much more recent thing. Some address like > WORDS-L@blah.blah.tw was subscribed and generating error messages. > Someone in Asia was collecting Words-L posts, perhaps for ESL > purposes. Taiwan--now I remember. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 17:14:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QMEFdE017051 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:14:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:14:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8BB99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:07:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1864632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:07:14 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4QLvE2r016652 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:57:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 71270 invoked by uid 1003); 26 May 2005 21:57:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:57:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom Message-ID: <20050526215714.GB52028@words-l.org> References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42960BBA.10707@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42960BBA.10707@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 12:47:38PM -0500, Anne Toal wrote: > Essentially yes. Nobody anticipated that some day there would be 1). a > web archive for words-l, 2). that it would be publicly viewable, and 3). > that Google would make it easily available. Except people who see "spies" everywhere. Well, and people who have had their list posts forwarded by other list members to random non-list people. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 17:14:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QMEFdE017052 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:14:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:14:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8BBF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:13:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1866174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:13:24 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QMDOTR018683 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:13:24 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.202]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050526221324.NUUW18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:13:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.202]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050526221324.GOXR25991.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:13:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42964A01.6070402@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:13:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Yes. I think this is a good idea. It might make sense to send >individual checks made out to the library to Natalie who could gather >them and present them as a group. This would keep both the collective >and the individual nature of the gifts. > > Are there other suggestions? Anything is ok with me, and I will be glad to be the collector/submitter of the checks or not be -- as in if there's somebody else who'd like to do it, that would be great, but I don't mind. Should we say something like anybody who wants to contribute to the memorial gift for Brad should send me a check by -- by when? June 15? Or should we make it earlier than that? And when I send the checks to the library (unless somebody comes up with a better suggestion), should I say simply Words-L, or should I say Words-L and then list the names of all the individual contributors? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 17:14:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QMEFdE017050 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:14:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:14:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8BB9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:04:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1864457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:04:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4QLsEGl016370 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:54:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 69925 invoked by uid 1003); 26 May 2005 21:54:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:54:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googling Words-L Archives Message-ID: <20050526215414.GA52028@words-l.org> References: <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <46227195050526104069051fbb@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46227195050526104069051fbb@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 12:40:36PM -0500, phil paxton wrote: > Not only that, Microsoft has been nailed several times in court (and > lost) for email. e.g. When Windows first came out and was started up > as a regular program on top of DOS - back before they claimed Windows > didn't need DOS. There was a question whether Windows should be > capable of running on competitors' versions of DOS; e.g. DR-DOS: > "We're sorry, but this version of DOS isn't capable of running > Windows." > > n.b. "this version" not "DR-DOS", "IBM-DOS", or "this manufacturer's > version of DOS" > > The [internal Microsoft] response was along the lines of "...if you > can make it absolutely, positively foolproof that Windows will > *always* run on MS-DOS, then add such code. > > The courts are now taking email and the *lack* of email into > consideration, regardless of whether the company is plaintiff or > defendant. i.e. if a company is unable to produce an archived body of > email, particularly if there are gaps, they are starting to get > slapped by the courts. > > The same is now going for blogs. Companies, regardless of size|scope, > have had to scramble to create employee policies regarding content and > the stated association (or lack thereof) to their employer. There is > fear companies will try to exert pressure upon those who provide no > relationship to their employer because an association and endorsement > could still be established and the deep pocket strategy would take > over. The question is how effective an effort would be if someone > attempted to bring into evidence the online activities of someone > before they came into the current employee. It shouldn't be used, but > I suppose a pattern could be established. > > I suppose one could (and should) become a poseur. And that brings > something to mind: I love reading in the news and watching episodes > on TV where a school's or district's administrative staff exerts > pressure upon a student for something they put on their web site. I > haven't figured out why those kids would identify themselves. I would > think it would be far more interesting to see everyone's reaction and > watch the witch hunt, particularly if they had some presumption as to > who would be the most probable of suspects [and were wrong]. (it > sounds like college) Could you rewrite this a little more coherently? I didn't understand a word. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 17:23:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QMNVdE018201 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:23:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:23:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8BC25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:23:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1866706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:23:30 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QMNUI7019944 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:23:30 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.202]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050526222330.CVBF2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:23:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.202]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050526222330.VDJO8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:23:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42964C5F.30805@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:23:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Well, there goes the neighborhood. I googled for "natalie maynor" and found no Words-L postings in the first good many pages of hits. The only Words-L-related items I found were from the list glossary and from the Toalhouse Cookbook. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 17:26:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QMQ5dE018443 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:26:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:26:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00656DE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:26:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1866854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:25:54 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QMPsNT020220 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:25:54 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.202]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050526222554.CWFF2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:25:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.202]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050526222554.VDVC8829.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:25:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42964CEF.9060406@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:25:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260917101b65f1@mail.gmail.com> <001501c5620f$93eecf20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <001501c5620f$93eecf20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Because I distinctly remember that we discussed > whether the door should be open or shut . . whatever > that meant, since I don't understand the list setup . . > and we voted we did not want people to be able to > read our posts. Am I the only one who remembers > this? That was the usenet gateway. We were VERY public then. I'd say that we are much less public now, though we are no doubt . When googling myself found no Words-L posting in the first several hundred hits, I concluded that our list postings must not really be all that not on the net. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 17:44:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QMi1dE020224 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:44:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:44:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8BC91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:44:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1867572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:44:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QMi1c9022086 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:44:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1525736wra for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.135.7 with SMTP id i7mr2178917wrd; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:44:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=R4wBLBHHJ+wA/xvrbELO/jrJzEG2fyfa4aqQZ6yG+W55EO9YOtvuBEgGM2tZDepwamCRgLEWR5395U/RGBCracsuE+Hgm0xttjoV4tu60xI7fQH3y2rcAvJhetq6iw2Brx1MM6dVOeIWo7Y8/7nEhMJsFurz79dSoiKbUfJZ1Yg= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 18:44:00 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <42964C5F.30805@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42964C5F.30805@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4QMi1dE020224 > > I googled for "natalie maynor" and found no Words-L postings in the > first good many pages of hits. The only Words-L-related items I found > were from the list glossary and from the Toalhouse Cookbook. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > First hit on my name is The Kestenbaum Survey (1995) -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 18:12:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QNCRdE023579 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:12:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:12:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00656FC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:12:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1869030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:12:26 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-05-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QNCQ9b025022 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:12:26 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-05-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j4QNCNRh018061 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:12:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <429657DD.409@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 18:12:29 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505261753.j4QHra03000423@sm.luth.se> <3c1d5b500505261214190902c7@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70505261236658a6c02@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505261236658a6c02@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I like the idea of Giggles and Brad as Words-L Bodhisattvas. > I like the idea that Brad's death announcement has become yet another words-l subject line hijacked into a million unanticipated conversations. I believe Brad would too. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 18:22:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4QNMIdE024476 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:22:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 18:22:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8BD49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:22:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1869526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:22:18 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4QNMHP7026222 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:22:18 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005052623221501500dcvu1e>; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:22:16 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:22:12 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Some other > lists I am on have "subscribers" who are actually Listserv-like > redistributors, and I vaguely remember that there was at least one of > these subscribed to Words-L at one point. > > Tony H. I'm sorry to hear about Brad. *sigh* There are still a few of those subscribed to Words-L. I found Words-L because Drew had such a link into ANU-NEWS on the VAX. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 19:14:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R0E4dE030581 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:14:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:14:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8BECC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:14:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1871956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:14:04 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R0E48x031134 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:14:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8BEB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:14:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:14:03 -0400 From: Neal Traven Subject: Re: Brad Grissom To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Neal Traven Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you, Adam, for sending a side note with this sad news. I find it interesting that we learn of the death of our friend through an email sent to Norway by one of his colleagues at UK, who forwarded the death notice from a Mississippi newspaper. Between that and the inevitable (and near-instantaneous) words-l thread drift, it's really the ultimately self-referential WLM. It's strange... I knew Brad for 15 years or so, yet I can think of only four occasions that we actually met -- Clambake, Salmonbake, Slugfest, and a Thanksgiving 1992 outing with Marty and a few others. He and I each wrote WHTMs about that get-together. Brad always seemed rather detached, chuckling to himself about some small tidbit he'd observed, but not needing to share the joke with others. At the same time, there was a sadness about him ... opportunities missed, perhaps, or lifepaths not taken. Demon rum may have been both cause and effect for some of that. One of the great disappointments of my wordsler life was that, after enthusiastically planning to attend, he didn't join the festivities at Wordstock. I never did hear an explanation of that; he was supposedly on his way up to Fenelton, but something kept him away. Farewell, Brad. Perhaps now you can find the real story about those Polish cavalry. neal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 19:42:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R0g3dE000504 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:42:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:42:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8BF52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:42:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1872998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:42:03 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R0g2pm000992 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:42:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1403896wri for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.83.5 with SMTP id g5mr2220548wrb; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:42:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RE/2C6cXobjfS+7CS9tKXMYWKaCKvRFbtGMQcDIw9nLoI8ET2uPC2rPXt9YE3G7YPfUgaNdUM05iFvdp+roMT2TJKJoNetN6z5XzQP0iSEij7ZPhRSzZNmFnm/W1mreODVqVT3gGvBGu0WgANboHvfycdRVuhV2pk66dH6aZAVI= Message-ID: <46227195050526174264be5bd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:42:02 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googling Words-L Archives In-Reply-To: <20050526215414.GA52028@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <46227195050526104069051fbb@mail.gmail.com> <20050526215414.GA52028@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4R0g2pm000993 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 12:40:36PM -0500, phil paxton wrote: > > Not only that, Microsoft has been nailed several times in court (and > > lost) for email. e.g. When Windows first came out and was started up > > as a regular program on top of DOS - back before they claimed Windows > > didn't need DOS. There was a question whether Windows should be > > capable of running on competitors' versions of DOS; e.g. DR-DOS: > > "We're sorry, but this version of DOS isn't capable of running > > Windows." > > > > n.b. "this version" not "DR-DOS", "IBM-DOS", or "this manufacturer's > > version of DOS" > > > > The [internal Microsoft] response was along the lines of "...if you > > can make it absolutely, positively foolproof that Windows will > > *always* run on MS-DOS, then add such code. > > > > The courts are now taking email and the *lack* of email into > > consideration, regardless of whether the company is plaintiff or > > defendant. i.e. if a company is unable to produce an archived body of > > email, particularly if there are gaps, they are starting to get > > slapped by the courts. > > > > The same is now going for blogs. Companies, regardless of size|scope, > > have had to scramble to create employee policies regarding content and > > the stated association (or lack thereof) to their employer. There is > > fear companies will try to exert pressure upon those who provide no > > relationship to their employer because an association and endorsement > > could still be established and the deep pocket strategy would take > > over. The question is how effective an effort would be if someone > > attempted to bring into evidence the online activities of someone > > before they came into the current employee. It shouldn't be used, but > > I suppose a pattern could be established. > > > > I suppose one could (and should) become a poseur. And that brings > > something to mind: I love reading in the news and watching episodes > > on TV where a school's or district's administrative staff exerts > > pressure upon a student for something they put on their web site. I > > haven't figured out why those kids would identify themselves. I would > > think it would be far more interesting to see everyone's reaction and > > watch the witch hunt, particularly if they had some presumption as to > > who would be the most probable of suspects [and were wrong]. (it > > sounds like college) > > Could you rewrite this a little more coherently? I didn't > understand a word. :( From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 19:58:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R0wDdE002446 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:58:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:58:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8BF76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:58:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1873446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:58:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R0wDxI002082 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:58:13 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1565653wra for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.8.33 with SMTP id 33mr2205752wrh; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 17:58:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OUzPZFxfrZl7RjPJI9/ixkygx3S3+2clZn82+2Eb32MZiWra2YgaX4qGfhCNZl5nIgrVpLyQn+FjU6vSNc5g8kAhTDvZ1OEWfcIjZjeP8QCVePe9shRvJ0urWX61xnarurX1y9z/JbAkfR4JuEim8ZRJ2BmM/tT0IZzPaVpPOuw= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:58:12 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4R0wDdE002446 > > It's strange... I knew Brad for 15 years or so, yet I can think of only > four occasions that we actually met -- Clambake, Salmonbake, Slugfest, and > a Thanksgiving 1992 outing with Marty and a few others. He and I each > wrote WHTMs about that get-together. Brad always seemed rather detached, > chuckling to himself about some small tidbit he'd observed, but not > needing > to share the joke with others. --neal > I wonder if Marty knows that Brad died. I met Brad and Marty together for the first time when they both traveled to a railroad museum in Kentucky where Clyde and I were to meet some friends of ours before we went off to spend the night at a Shaker village in Kentucky. The six of us road a train and had a great time together. Afterwards our friends went on ahead and Clyde and I went with Brad and Marty to a nearby tavern to talk. I was very impressed with both of them. They asked all about rowing and seemed genuinely interested. Then we met Brad and Kay at a brew pub in Lexington the Sunday after Thanksgiving one year. Another pleasant visit. Then Brad came up to Oxford, Ohio to visit with us and Marty and Ann the day before the wedding of the daughter of those same friends involved with the train ride in the first meeting. Brad really loved the Miami of Ohio campus and all the beautiful trees there. The five of us retired to a local tavern and had a good lunch and visit. I remember when Brad called me on the phone in my early days on words-l to make me promise to not sign off the list in disgust. I was miffed about something and had announced that I was leaving. I promised Brad I would post again and not leave in anger. And I remember when Brad posted as his own a segment from one of Kierkegaard's works. I caught him out and quoted book, translation, and page number that he had lifted. He seemed delighted that I had recognized the quote. God bless him. I hope he's found some good drinking buddies in the after-life. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 21:35:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R2ZFdE013799 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 21:35:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 21:35:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8C34A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:35:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1881809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:35:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R2ZFsO018810 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:35:15 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so587952wri for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.78 with SMTP id n78mr1302593wrn; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 19:35:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=egLOjmIH29DUJW27BR6m/yWr66eHnSJseYI8dHy6CVrbPovNs4wCz1nUuWbYAPDZ5IRLTXY5GLxZYR/kgmGxLid7ksyUsg9RJB/0GBvm+dYglrrDnaGE3oUCELyo5q2RYM+MmqvOTbj+axkNrUnOmZtE+z6O07Tib1d9hGue53k= Message-ID: <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:35:14 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4R2ZFdE013799 On 5/26/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > I wonder if Marty knows that Brad died. With Adam's help on a possible address, I just wrote Marty. Perhaps in sum, I spent 12 hours or so with Brad---certainly not enough to speak authoritatively about his personality or life. He impressed me as being a very gentle man. He seemed to truly enjoy conversation and to learn. As Neal has suggested, Brad was an observer---without the need to share his observations. It was not in his nature to parade his problems. I suspected that his retirement was not altogether his own idea, yet in that, as well as in caring for his failing parents, one had to read carefully between the lines to glimpse the true situation. In terms of his need for alcohol, I never heard him apologize or rationalize--it simply was him. I did sense the withdrawal---and it was especially evident this past winter, when he didn't return full-time to the list to talk about basketball--- his beloved Kentucky basketball first and foremost. So he's gone. I will miss the debates regarding basketball; I will miss his gentle humor. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 22:49:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R3nWdE022372 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:49:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:49:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8C675@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:17:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1888355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:17:06 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R3H690028809 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:17:06 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F0C8433A121E9 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:17:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:16:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" To: Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: Re: Brad Grissom On 5/26/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > I wonder if Marty knows that Brad died. With Adam's help on a possible address, I just wrote Marty. Perhaps in sum, I spent 12 hours or so with Brad---certainly not enough to speak authoritatively about his personality or life. He impressed me as being a very gentle man. He seemed to truly enjoy conversation and to learn. As Neal has suggested, Brad was an observer---without the need to share his observations. It was not in his nature to parade his problems. I suspected that his retirement was not altogether his own idea, yet in that, as well as in caring for his failing parents, one had to read carefully between the lines to glimpse the true situation. In terms of his need for alcohol, I never heard him apologize or rationalize--it simply was him. I did sense the withdrawal---and it was especially evident this past winter, when he didn't return full-time to the list to talk about basketball--- his beloved Kentucky basketball first and foremost. So he's gone. I will miss the debates regarding basketball; I will miss his gentle humor. cwv I rather like the posts about Wordslers when they are gone. It's quite possible Wordslers know a side of their people that no one else really knows, and these little memorials are so sincere. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 22:50:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R3nWdE022371 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:49:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:50:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8C68E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:09:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1887872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:09:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R39bcg027864 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:09:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1437561wri for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.83.5 with SMTP id g5mr2288795wrb; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2005 20:09:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=twLwilQIK0dVk9kUjFGH8ta0m4OrMccZ0K4feox8isIaFwlWbYg9T3XXy5hWziwvmKxtB7rmALPoVDNg2R1ziAkexh2WApYlGCpAwOyakG7NuL3vUI93tz5bOFjd5zpw+7+Wz5xsTv8N6k0di7NxhMyq5XHuf3PXUHLyfX3gGAk= Message-ID: <46227195050526200945851aca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:09:36 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googling Words-L Archives In-Reply-To: <20050526215414.GA52028@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <46227195050526104069051fbb@mail.gmail.com> <20050526215414.GA52028@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4R39bcg027865 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Aside from "a", "an", and "the", are there any other words you understood? On 5/26/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 12:40:36PM -0500, phil paxton wrote: > > Not only that, Microsoft has been nailed several times in court (and > > lost) for email. e.g. When Windows first came out and was started up > > as a regular program on top of DOS - back before they claimed Windows > > didn't need DOS. There was a question whether Windows should be > > capable of running on competitors' versions of DOS; e.g. DR-DOS: > > "We're sorry, but this version of DOS isn't capable of running > > Windows." > > > > n.b. "this version" not "DR-DOS", "IBM-DOS", or "this manufacturer's > > version of DOS" > > > > The [internal Microsoft] response was along the lines of "...if you > > can make it absolutely, positively foolproof that Windows will > > *always* run on MS-DOS, then add such code. > > > > The courts are now taking email and the *lack* of email into > > consideration, regardless of whether the company is plaintiff or > > defendant. i.e. if a company is unable to produce an archived body of > > email, particularly if there are gaps, they are starting to get > > slapped by the courts. > > > > The same is now going for blogs. Companies, regardless of size|scope, > > have had to scramble to create employee policies regarding content and > > the stated association (or lack thereof) to their employer. There is > > fear companies will try to exert pressure upon those who provide no > > relationship to their employer because an association and endorsement > > could still be established and the deep pocket strategy would take > > over. The question is how effective an effort would be if someone > > attempted to bring into evidence the online activities of someone > > before they came into the current employee. It shouldn't be used, but > > I suppose a pattern could be established. > > > > I suppose one could (and should) become a poseur. And that brings > > something to mind: I love reading in the news and watching episodes > > on TV where a school's or district's administrative staff exerts > > pressure upon a student for something they put on their web site. I > > haven't figured out why those kids would identify themselves. I would > > think it would be far more interesting to see everyone's reaction and > > watch the witch hunt, particularly if they had some presumption as to > > who would be the most probable of suspects [and were wrong]. (it > > sounds like college) > > Could you rewrite this a little more coherently? I didn't > understand a word. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 23:43:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R4hcdE029041 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:43:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:43:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8C961@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 0:43:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1893642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:43:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4R4XZBw004887 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:33:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 72894 invoked by uid 1003); 27 May 2005 04:33:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:33:35 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googling Words-L Archives Message-ID: <20050527043335.GA70370@words-l.org> References: <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <46227195050526104069051fbb@mail.gmail.com> <20050526215414.GA52028@words-l.org> <46227195050526200945851aca@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46227195050526200945851aca@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 10:09:36PM -0500, phil paxton wrote: > Aside from "a", "an", and "the", are there any other words you understood? Could you rephrase that? > On 5/26/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 12:40:36PM -0500, phil paxton wrote: > > > Not only that, Microsoft has been nailed several times in court (and > > > lost) for email. e.g. When Windows first came out and was started up > > > as a regular program on top of DOS - back before they claimed Windows > > > didn't need DOS. There was a question whether Windows should be > > > capable of running on competitors' versions of DOS; e.g. DR-DOS: > > > "We're sorry, but this version of DOS isn't capable of running > > > Windows." > > > > > > n.b. "this version" not "DR-DOS", "IBM-DOS", or "this manufacturer's > > > version of DOS" > > > > > > The [internal Microsoft] response was along the lines of "...if you > > > can make it absolutely, positively foolproof that Windows will > > > *always* run on MS-DOS, then add such code. > > > > > > The courts are now taking email and the *lack* of email into > > > consideration, regardless of whether the company is plaintiff or > > > defendant. i.e. if a company is unable to produce an archived body of > > > email, particularly if there are gaps, they are starting to get > > > slapped by the courts. > > > > > > The same is now going for blogs. Companies, regardless of size|scope, > > > have had to scramble to create employee policies regarding content and > > > the stated association (or lack thereof) to their employer. There is > > > fear companies will try to exert pressure upon those who provide no > > > relationship to their employer because an association and endorsement > > > could still be established and the deep pocket strategy would take > > > over. The question is how effective an effort would be if someone > > > attempted to bring into evidence the online activities of someone > > > before they came into the current employee. It shouldn't be used, but > > > I suppose a pattern could be established. > > > > > > I suppose one could (and should) become a poseur. And that brings > > > something to mind: I love reading in the news and watching episodes > > > on TV where a school's or district's administrative staff exerts > > > pressure upon a student for something they put on their web site. I > > > haven't figured out why those kids would identify themselves. I would > > > think it would be far more interesting to see everyone's reaction and > > > watch the witch hunt, particularly if they had some presumption as to > > > who would be the most probable of suspects [and were wrong]. (it > > > sounds like college) > > > > Could you rewrite this a little more coherently? I didn't > > understand a word. > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 23:56:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R4u5dE031144 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:56:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:56:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8C9C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 0:46:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1894483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:46:05 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R4k4hn009547 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:46:04 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3046B9A5E0D81 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:46:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c56276$f6a2e220$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Visitors in Nebraska Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:45:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4R4u5dE031144 Hamaid Karzai has been in these parts this week. Visited an air base in Omaha, some other communities, then the farm of people we know and Gene used to do business with. Karzai was so impressed. He said, on TV, "On this farm they have 5000 cattle and they only employ 5 people. It is amazing." - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu May 26 23:56:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R4u5dE031145 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:56:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:56:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8C981@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 0:51:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1894542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:51:31 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R4pUMF011548 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:51:30 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D8EEF534C9E74 for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 23:51:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Unique Recipe Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:51:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4R4u5dE031145 Someone told me the other day about "Omelet in a Bag." Have you heard of it? You break 2 eggs into a zip-lock quart plastic bag, then add whatever you want. I tried it, and I added chopped onions, chopped green peppers, bits of ham, and shredded cheese. Then you close the bag and place it (zipper at the top) into a pan of boiling water and boil for exactly 13 min. Then unzip the bag and the omelet rolls out easily onto your plate, with the cheese oozing over the top. It was delicious and so easy. No pan to wash. A friend said this is fun to do with a group. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 00:15:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R5F0dE001805 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:15:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 00:15:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065799F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 1:14:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1896648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 01:14:59 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R5Exut020702 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 01:14:59 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DB12B8ED for ; Thu, 26 May 2005 22:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Pierre-Boulez: Comfort is the worst enemy of art Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:14:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Brad Grissom Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I found out yesterday that Brad died last week. This email went out via >our library's list. I had not talked with Brad in several months, and >have lost touch with mutual friends so I don't have any additional >details other than what is in the obituary linked below. Damn. I can't say I'm surprised but it was still way too early, dammit. I will never forget the time I visited him in Lexington, and we went on an all-afternoon pub crawl, at times accompanied by Hannum and Ingram. Them was good times, and Bradrich was ein guter Mensch. Brad, I love you like a brother, man. Ken Miller Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 02:34:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R7YndE021839 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 02:34:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 02:34:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00657B78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 3:04:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1901725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 03:04:33 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4R74V6f006214 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 03:04:31 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005052709025000143 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:02:50 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 27 May 2005 09:04:29 +0200 Message-ID: <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:04:29 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2005 07:04:30.0065 (UTC) FILETIME=[53C97E10:01C5628A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 26.05.2005 15:45: > Rita Leonard wrote: > >> Count me in. Natalie, are you going to organize something? > > > I also like the of a Words-L gift. What do y'all want > to do? Do you want to send me money and have me combine it and send it > to the Lee County Library from Words-L? (I could list the individual > names under Words-L or could just say Words-L. Making out your checks > to the Lee County Library would make sense. Actually I think it's We are not really a check-using nation any more, and it is quite a hassle to go to a bank and order a check (not that I really mind if this is the best way), so maybe I could mail some cash to you, Natalie? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 02:38:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R7cEdE022167 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 02:38:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 02:38:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8CDB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 3:38:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1902860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 03:38:14 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4R7cC60008567 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 03:38:13 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005052709363000495 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:36:30 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 27 May 2005 09:38:07 +0200 Message-ID: <4296CE5E.7050402@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:38:06 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Wordslers near Victoria BC? References: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2005 07:38:07.0290 (UTC) FILETIME=[062599A0:01C5628F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From June 12 to 19 I will be in Victoria, BC, Canada. Are there any wordslers nearby? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 03:58:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R8wldE031324 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 03:58:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 03:58:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8CE7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 4:58:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1904527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 04:58:46 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R8wjo2013656 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 04:58:45 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so681697wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 01:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.17 with SMTP id t17mr1495742wra; Fri, 27 May 2005 01:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 01:58:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SQzObmVMGw79BibmXUxDH8HEdc9CnS3Kg+phSMlmup9a6nV2PyBIt9ZdkxYg2F1HcgnWINioL0FMmMs/4Rz/tMk1Bt1UfTrlJrl41QvInNNSKkfjCrKmc/vaoZCIUQijDf101xk6eOiOnrku1ZYCie/Up2UOcewKAs59/g51jo8= Message-ID: <8865866a05052701586b1a98ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:58:45 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Unique Recipe In-Reply-To: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4R8wjo2013659 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Someone told me the other day about > "Omelet in a Bag." Have you heard of it? > > You break 2 eggs into a zip-lock quart plastic bag, > then add whatever you want. I tried it, and I added > chopped onions, chopped green peppers, bits of ham, > and shredded cheese. > > Then you close the bag and place it (zipper at the top) > into a pan of boiling water and boil for exactly 13 min. > Then unzip the bag and the omelet rolls out easily onto > your plate, with the cheese oozing over the top. > It was delicious and so easy. No pan to wash. > > A friend said this is fun to do with a group. > > - D. M. > I'm gonna have to try that. Sounds interesting and yummy. But we don't have ziploc bags in Sweden. I'll use a normal one and tie the knot tight. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 04:09:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4R98xdE032682 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 04:09:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 04:09:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8CEB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 5:08:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1904943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 05:08:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4R98wSl014491 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 05:08:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so684373wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 02:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.62 with SMTP id 62mr1036831wrz; Fri, 27 May 2005 02:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 02:08:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tzCuEapgSI2t7rsGg+Lq4Fk6Lpc8Vjw9VM9lTz2FFlYZt601YyM2hpJmahhjnP0n5oKZTHrMtv/YTV4PoUYsRsV51fxTd81vXZuZk6iRfrXnmSUzlWAehxAcYTsnPVAyId+z68+Q47zvZ72NP+YP2pmj3Jtv/kWEUIsrhIKQD08= Message-ID: <8865866a050527020859ab2aca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:08:58 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad In-Reply-To: <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4R98xSl014493 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Could I send the money to you via PayPal, Natalie? Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:28:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RBS6dE022186 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:28:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:28:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8D0A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 7:28:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1909109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:28:06 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RBS6qG015651 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:28:06 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527112806.YMCU18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:28:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527112805.WNW11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:28:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42970442.9070700@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:28:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <42953582.8020401@maynor.net> <42960475.3000305@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42960475.3000305@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >>> It must take thick skin not >>> to feel self-conscious being a hunchback walking into Notre Dame. >> >> *snort* Well-said. > > It's all up to the movie! If people were reminded more of books > and less on cheap films and comics made on them they shouldn't worry for > such things. Quasimodo had many other characteristics beside having the > hunch. (Sorry, I haven't seen the film, but am prejudiced.) But I wrote the above comment based on the book, not the movie. I don't think I ever saw the movie. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:47:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RBkrdE024892 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:47:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:47:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D10B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 7:38:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1909443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:38:24 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RBcOas016406 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:38:24 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527113824.YSLU18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:38:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527113824.YLW11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:38:24 -0400 Message-ID: <429706AD.2010800@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:38:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > Some other >lists I am on have "subscribers" who are actually Listserv-like >redistributors, and I vaguely remember that there was at least one of >these subscribed to Words-L at one point. > > There were quite a few such subscribers to Words-L in the old days. I don't know about now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:47:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RBkrdE024898 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:47:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:47:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8D165@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 7:46:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1910067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:46:47 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RBkl9K017562 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:46:47 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527114647.YXAX18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:46:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527114647.BABY11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:46:47 -0400 Message-ID: <429708A3.3010008@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:46:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Neal Traven wrote: >One of the great disappointments of my wordsler life was that, after >enthusiastically planning to attend, he didn't join the festivities at >Wordstock. I never did hear an explanation of that; he was supposedly on >his way up to Fenelton, but something kept him away. > > You never heard an explanation because I don't think there was one -- or rather not anything that Brad could or would enunciate. I started figuring out that he was not going to show up when he gave me a beer mug to take to Boo at Wordstock. This was when I was in Lexington the night before arriving at Wordstock. I said, "But why do you want me to take it when you could take it?" I don't remember now exactly what he said, but I do remember that it didn't make much sense and that I realized that he was not going to go. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:47:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RBkrdE024897 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:47:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:47:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8D114@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 7:36:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1909378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:36:52 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RBaqFs016303 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:36:52 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527113652.YRNW18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:36:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527113652.YDO11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:36:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42970650.6060507@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:36:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <000a01c5620d$ed63e150$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260917101b65f1@mail.gmail.com> <001501c5620f$93eecf20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > If I Google for "lawrence kestenbaum", I get 67,600 hits. If I add to > that search "words-l", the hit count drops to 5, pretty much a few > featured pieces on Words-L's own web site. I also can't find any of my Words-L postings by googling. I just tried the above (with "natalie maynor" that is). I got 1290 hits for just "natalie maynor" and then 69 when I added words-l. (That's putting "natalie maynor" in quotation marks. Without the quotation marks it's 7890 and 71 when adding words-l.) I just scrolled through those 69 words-l-related hits and saw no Words-L postings at all. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:47:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RBkrdE024895 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:47:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:47:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8D113@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 7:45:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1910009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:45:49 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4RBjm6W017440 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:45:49 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005052713440603220 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:44:06 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 27 May 2005 13:45:39 +0200 Message-ID: <42970862.2090406@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:45:38 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <42953582.8020401@maynor.net> <42960475.3000305@akad.ee> <42970442.9070700@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42970442.9070700@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2005 11:45:39.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A81ABD0:01C562B1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 27.05.2005 13:28: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > >>>> It must take thick skin not >>>> to feel self-conscious being a hunchback walking into Notre Dame. >>> >>> >>> *snort* Well-said. >> >> >> It's all up to the movie! If people were reminded more of books >> and less on cheap films and comics made on them they shouldn't worry for >> such things. Quasimodo had many other characteristics beside having the >> hunch. (Sorry, I haven't seen the film, but am prejudiced.) > > > But I wrote the above comment based on the book, not the movie. I don't > think I ever saw the movie. There are more than one movie. And then moving to another hunchback: Marty Fieldman in Frankenstein Jr.: he changes side from day to day. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:48:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RBmPdE025090 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:48:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:48:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00657E4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 7:48:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1910116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:48:25 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RBmPAI017668 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:48:25 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527114825.YXZX18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:48:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527114824.BAMQ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:48:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42970905.5030909@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:48:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > God bless him. I hope he's found some good drinking buddies in the >after-life. > > He and John Hannum are lifting their glasses right now, chuckling about Wordslers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:49:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RBnldE025234 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:49:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:49:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D167@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 7:49:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1909496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:49:47 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RBdlDa016591 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:39:47 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j4RBdkk1024683 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:39:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200505271139.j4RBdkk1024683@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Unique Recipe Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm gonna have to try that. Sounds interesting and yummy. But we don't > have ziploc bags in Sweden. I'll use a normal one and tie the knot > tight. Ziploc (tm) bags are somewhat heavier than normal plastic bags --- I'd be wary that a 'normal' one might not hold up to boiling for 13 minutes. However, does sound easy and yummy -- easier than dirtying a frying pan - Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:52:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RBptdE025446 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:51:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:52:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00657E6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 7:51:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1910474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:51:55 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RBptjH018369 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:51:55 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527115155.ZALX18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:51:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527115154.BBKR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:51:54 -0400 Message-ID: <429709D7.40702@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:51:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I rather like the posts about Wordslers when they are > gone. It's quite possible Wordslers know a side of their > people that no one else really knows, and these little > memorials are so sincere. I agree. We should have an "In Memoriam" webpage. Not necessarily one including lengthy postings about the person -- just something like picture plus short description. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:55:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RBtqdE025774 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:55:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:55:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00657E7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 7:55:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1910658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:55:52 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RBtpjf018793 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:55:52 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527115551.ZDHT18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:55:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527115551.BCQA11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:55:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42970AC4.3000504@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:55:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > We are not really a check-using nation any more, and it is quite a > hassle to go to a bank and order a check (not that I really mind if this > is the best way), so maybe I could mail some cash to you, Natalie? That's ok with me. Or you could make it an IOU, payable whenever we next see each other since I'm confident we will at some point. Do I take it that nobody has any other suggestions about what to do? Should people start sending me money? (We could still change the plan about where the money is going, of course, even after the money is on its way here.) What should the cut-off date be? June 15? Earlier? Assuming we're on with this idea, you can send money to me at this address: Natalie Maynor 3715 Greenwich St. Jackson, MS 39216 USA -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 06:57:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RBuxdE025916 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:57:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:57:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00657E7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 7:56:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1910690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:56:58 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RBuwXa018925 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:56:58 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527115658.ZDZH18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:56:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527115657.BCXP11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:56:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42970B06.9050409@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:56:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wordslers near Victoria BC? References: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> <4296CE5E.7050402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4296CE5E.7050402@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > From June 12 to 19 I will be in Victoria, BC, Canada. Are there any > wordslers nearby? Peter and his lion! (What was Peter's last name? I've forgotten. I assume the picture of him got lost with the other pictures in the list gallery.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:00:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RC0GdE026244 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:00:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:00:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00657D81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 8:00:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1910821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:00:16 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RC0Fqm019289 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:00:15 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527120015.ZGIJ18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:00:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527120015.BDVP11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:00:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42970BCB.2050905@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:00:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> <8865866a050527020859ab2aca@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a050527020859ab2aca@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >Could I send the money to you via PayPal, Natalie? > > I have no idea at all how PayPal works. I've used it a few times as a payer, and what seemed to me to be happening was that I was simply paying for something with a credit card. I never knew what was happening on the other end, like how the other person was getting money from the transaction. (I also don't know how that works when using a credit card in a store.) Maybe we could do the same thing I just mentioned to Espen -- the IOU idea. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:08:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RC8TdE027576 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:08:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:08:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00657F56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 8:08:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1911115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:08:29 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RC8Sh3020207 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:08:28 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 93195098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:06:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42970DB8.1030402@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:08:24 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> <42970AC4.3000504@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42970AC4.3000504@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Do I take it that nobody has any other suggestions about what to do? Seems that way. > Should people start sending me money? Yes. > (We could still change the plan > about where the money is going, of course, even after the money is on > its way here.) I thought that you had suggested that the checks be made out to the library. That would be an impediment to change. > What should the cut-off date be? June 15? Earlier? Leaving that up to others. If I don't mail it today, I will forget so it will be on its way as soon as the payee issue is clarified. > Assuming we're on with this idea, you can send money to me at this > address: > > Natalie Maynor > 3715 Greenwich St. > Jackson, MS 39216 > USA > Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:15:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RCFOdE028524 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:15:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:15:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D1DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 8:15:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1911252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:15:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RCFOpr020756 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:15:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so734602wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 05:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.33 with SMTP id 33mr1587098wrz; Fri, 27 May 2005 05:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 05:15:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BY1hnzCS2ErCVF2DkhkdyXLG5YPy89jPwlZyHLkk5p8+qiLFmzqipKKBAMVh8wKow7d2MqDw9t3b5MnVqQL+IfBxde6IHmQu7Ival1mED3QEAE/hsgxoSoDeCiiaE65yiCljT4s04rZdawXF/V0biWcuKBgq6cNm0r8YZnBfcKQ= Message-ID: <8865866a0505270515fd7bd6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:15:24 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad In-Reply-To: <42970BCB.2050905@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> <8865866a050527020859ab2aca@mail.gmail.com> <42970BCB.2050905@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4RCFOpr020758 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I have no idea at all how PayPal works. I've used it a few times as a > payer, and what seemed to me to be happening was that I was simply > paying for something with a credit card. I never knew what was > happening on the other end, like how the other person was getting money > from the transaction. (I also don't know how that works when using a > credit card in a store.) Maybe we could do the same thing I just > mentioned to Espen -- the IOU idea. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Hmmm...It said something about you needing to open an account as a receiver. I can send the money to you instead, if you prefer. I'm not so sure about the IOU thingy. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:43:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RCgudE031709 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:42:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:43:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D23C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 8:33:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1912068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:33:31 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RCXVR5022720 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:33:31 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527123331.LWPL2010.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:33:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527123331.BKDI8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:33:31 -0400 Message-ID: <42971398.1010003@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:33:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> <8865866a050527020859ab2aca@mail.gmail.com> <42970BCB.2050905@maynor.net> <8865866a0505270515fd7bd6f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a0505270515fd7bd6f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >Hmmm...It said something about you needing to open an account as a >receiver. I can send the money to you instead, if you prefer. I'm not >so sure about the IOU thingy. > > That sounds fine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:43:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RCgudE031705 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:42:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:43:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8D24B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 8:32:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1912034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:32:55 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RCWtYT022647 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:32:55 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527123255.LWHS2010.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:32:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527123251.BJYB8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:32:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4297136F.5030308@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:32:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <3c1d5b50050526060373b7dade@mail.gmail.com> <4295C9BC.5010502@bc.edu> <4295D2DD.6000908@maynor.net> <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> <42970AC4.3000504@maynor.net> <42970DB8.1030402@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42970DB8.1030402@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >> (We could still change the plan >> about where the money is going, of course, even after the money is on >> its way here.) > > I thought that you had suggested that the checks be made out to the > library. That would be an impediment to change. Oops! Good point. I think my brain is having trouble this morning. >> What should the cut-off date be? June 15? Earlier? > > Leaving that up to others. If I don't mail it today, I will forget so > it will be on its way as soon as the payee issue is clarified. Ok, we can say the sooner, the better, and at some point in the coming days/weeks, I can post asking whether anybody else is planning to contribute. Or something like that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:43:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RCgudE031707 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:42:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:43:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D246@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 8:35:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1912139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:35:13 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RCZDsK022849 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:35:13 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:35:13 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:34:43 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Brad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Can you repeat exactly how the checks should be made out? I know you said at some point, but I usually delete list mail after I've read it. Thanks BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/27/2005 8:32:47 AM >>> Rita Leonard wrote: >> (We could still change the plan >> about where the money is going, of course, even after the money is on >> its way here.) > > I thought that you had suggested that the checks be made out to the > library. That would be an impediment to change. Oops! Good point. I think my brain is having trouble this morning. >> What should the cut-off date be? June 15? Earlier? > > Leaving that up to others. If I don't mail it today, I will forget so > it will be on its way as soon as the payee issue is clarified. Ok, we can say the sooner, the better, and at some point in the coming days/weeks, I can post asking whether anybody else is planning to contribute. Or something like that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 07:59:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RCx6dE001218 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:59:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:59:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D27D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 8:49:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1912607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:49:05 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4RCn48b024167 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:49:05 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005052714472404185 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:47:24 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 27 May 2005 14:49:03 +0200 Message-ID: <4297173F.6050701@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:49:03 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2005 12:49:03.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[7662E940:01C562BA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot skrev 27.05.2005 14:34: >Can you repeat exactly how the checks should be made out? I know you >said at some point, but I usually delete list mail after I've read it. >Thanks > > I will be away from computers until Monday (going on a boat trip). But whatever you decide is fine with me, and I really hope that I will meet you, Natalie, in a not so far future! But I this summer my trip to Victoria is probably my only visit to North America. In DecemberN I may stay over for two nights somewherev around LA on my way to Samoa and New Zealand? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:13:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RDDKdE003198 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:13:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:13:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D2EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 9:03:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1913560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:03:20 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RD3KP7026123 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:03:20 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1779625wra for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr2532300wrd; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 06:03:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ahgTpn2AZbAPl9vkHWIzdKc5Sq5XSaGHA6G4iae3++mUGm4NXfSkT3BatLy5j1lZGRzjGqX7Vom8edaW3eU+YpMEwHUFi5BzBn7pHUMdwOekDRURG1sL6g3Y5zeZs3vJ/dKVCZfWENcMBRUebPCWuDFvkiArRZS+P3Q4PiTcOto= Message-ID: <462271950505270603287bfa69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:03:17 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googling Words-L Archives In-Reply-To: <20050527043335.GA70370@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <46227195050526104069051fbb@mail.gmail.com> <20050526215414.GA52028@words-l.org> <46227195050526200945851aca@mail.gmail.com> <20050527043335.GA70370@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4RD3KP7026124 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/26/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 10:09:36PM -0500, phil paxton wrote: > > Aside from "a", "an", and "the", are there any other words you understood? > > Could you rephrase that? Would you care to guess what I'm thinking? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:22:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RDLTdE004024 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:21:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:22:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D3CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 9:21:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1915370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:21:29 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RDLTxH029766 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:21:29 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527132128.NILL2010.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:21:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527132128.CBEB8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:21:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42971ED5.2040909@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:21:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Can you repeat exactly how the checks should be made out? > I plan to make mine out to either "Lee County Public Library" or "Lee County Library." It has been my experience that checks work even if made out in various weird ways (as in the to line). Probably even "Tupelo Public Library" would work, though that would be getting quite far away from its name. There are three branches of The Lee-Itawamba Library System. One of those three branches is called Lee County Library: http://www.mlc.lib.ms.us/directory/public/branch.cfm?sortnum=1092&adm_code=21 On this page, it's called "Lee County Public Library": http://www.stuttersfa.org/library/ref_ms.htm Here's the Lee-Itawamba Library website: http://www.youseemore.com/leeitawamba/about.asp -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:23:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RDModE004138 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:22:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:23:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8D3B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 9:22:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1915652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:22:50 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RDMna8030087 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:22:49 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527132249.NJJV2010.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:22:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527132248.CBSH8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:22:48 -0400 Message-ID: <42971F25.2030804@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:22:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <4297173F.6050701@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4297173F.6050701@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > In DecemberN I may > stay over for two nights somewherev around LA on my way to Samoa and New > Zealand? Why do I have the feeling this LA means Los Angeles and not Louisiana? Too bad it's not the latter! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:29:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RDTTdE004794 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:29:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:29:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00658067@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 9:29:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1916136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:29:29 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RDTSB4031330 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:29:28 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527132928.DWV2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:29:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527132928.CEPH8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:29:28 -0400 Message-ID: <429720B4.9010207@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:29:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This site makes pretty clear that the library's name is Lee County Library: http://www.youseemore.com/leeitawamba/directory.asp -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 08:45:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RDjjdE006392 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:45:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:45:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8D468@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 9:45:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1917137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:45:45 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RDjiQx001401 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:45:44 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 93206203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:44:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42972488.1010808@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:45:44 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <429720B4.9010207@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <429720B4.9010207@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > This site makes pretty clear that the library's name is Lee County > Library: > > http://www.youseemore.com/leeitawamba/directory.asp The check is in the mail. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:14:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4REDKdE009587 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:13:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:14:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D54C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:03:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1918728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:03:18 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RE3Cn7004661 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:03:12 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D54B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:03:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200505271403.j4RE3Cn7004661@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:03:12 -0400 From: Neal Traven Subject: Re: Wordslers near Victoria BC? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 27 May 2005 09:38:06 +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: > From June 12 to 19 I will be in Victoria, BC, Canada. Are there any >wordslers nearby? > >Espen Seattle is near Victoria as the crow flies, though the waters make it a not-particularly-simple trip. Are you sure you don't mean Vancouver? :-) In any case, I'll be participating in a Camp Wellstone training seminar on June 12, then flying to Florida on business June 13-17. At the moment, I don't recall specific responsibilities for the weekend of June 18-19, but I can't say it's too likely that I'd be able to get up to Victoria unless the reason was really, really, really good. [make me an offer...] I think you'll find Victoria rather reminiscent of Bergen ... a small city, very water-oriented, Be sure to get to Butchart Gardens, and if at all possible get away into some of the less peopled-environs on Vancouver Island. neal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:14:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4REDKdE009588 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:13:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:14:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8D568@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:04:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1918796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:04:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RE4OoD004860 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:04:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so771552wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.13.44 with SMTP id 44mr31298wrm; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:04:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GqKBkXg4dVCaZTjq/1sPfYcPUrtpLN6ZV4cC06pSCy6cNnr4YoVqatpLcDkZJXIgjVW2enmh9YW/aNhCLqCkIB0ke8Eoi5YgxbbrXWdyLTyKD1aBsBWmC0Diqd9ITW4k3Jue/1oLrhe4JXki46TM4QBeCqobGDRgMBjmOfII4To= Message-ID: <8865866a05052707041661537d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:04:23 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Unique Recipe In-Reply-To: <200505271139.j4RBdkk1024683@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505271139.j4RBdkk1024683@math.umb.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4RE4OoD004861 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > > I'm gonna have to try that. Sounds interesting and yummy. But we don't > > have ziploc bags in Sweden. I'll use a normal one and tie the knot > > tight. > > Ziploc (tm) bags are somewhat heavier than normal plastic bags --- I'd be > wary that a 'normal' one might not hold up to boiling for 13 minutes. > > However, does sound easy and yummy -- easier than dirtying a frying pan - > > Joan I'll make sure to use the heavy-duty freezer bags! Marcia -- Wild women are the only kind that ever get by - Cass Elliot Marcia Franzén Lingonstigen 21 973 33 Luleå +46 920 658 66 or: Fatburs Brunnsgata 13, 3 tr 118 28 Stockholm +46 720 11 51 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:18:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4REI4dE010252 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:18:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:18:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8D584@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:18:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1919745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:18:03 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4REI1Bc007041 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:18:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1813048wra for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.54.56 with SMTP id c56mr2568574wra; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:18:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hIb58Wzstf3KJ6ymoeqf7gK9e+8m61FQ6/DMBb/J/JmQA0cjZCK3bumA5WVywhbjduh3N+XPJ4JXcvllC4L30tqBh2HJzmdglcIa94tWLrgfDM1pqXDQz8UyzMFYE3cMf1foAWtUEm2y1R38Vq2B2kfyu2U6v8kc8okEylIxtQE= Message-ID: <46227195050527071858322c73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:18:01 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Unique Recipe In-Reply-To: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4REI2Bc007047 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That would seem to avoid one of the best tricks with omelettes (and make things easier): leaving the eggs them out of the fridge overnight to reach room temperature. The texture is better and they fold without tearing. (I think the old, old recipes for homemade angel food cakes recommend the eggs being left out for a week) On 5/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Someone told me the other day about > "Omelet in a Bag." Have you heard of it? > > You break 2 eggs into a zip-lock quart plastic bag, > then add whatever you want. I tried it, and I added > chopped onions, chopped green peppers, bits of ham, > and shredded cheese. > > Then you close the bag and place it (zipper at the top) > into a pan of boiling water and boil for exactly 13 min. > Then unzip the bag and the omelet rolls out easily onto > your plate, with the cheese oozing over the top. > It was delicious and so easy. No pan to wash. > > A friend said this is fun to do with a group. > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 09:51:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4REp9dE014462 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:51:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:51:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065818A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:31:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1921094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:31:08 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4REV8JZ009801 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:31:08 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:31:07 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:30:53 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: For 'lan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've driven in Rhode Island and all I can say is I'm not surprised at the results. Nor am I surprised at MA and NJ being 2nd and 3rd - though I might have put NJ above the other two based on my personal experience. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 5/27/2005 10:26:21 AM >>> http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/05/26/drivers_study/index.html Rhode Island has the dumbest drivers. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:12:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFCEdE017453 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:12:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:12:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8D5E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:26:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1920776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:26:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4REQLSG009156 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:26:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1512169nzo for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr987285nzb; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=BLk7oIJO/7LOEmYgGqxir9HJVBfIm6RFqvGRXFCwsxJkYR7937M85CgJVJRhlzNP5pJMl+3Mdti0kcUUmJzUHM6lSczMyu1bUREGKLqfrfqnAF88ctqH0FuPHhf9N8HHwN2uR8rF22OeCIbzTGdsrlt4B1zyj65ZJICHbchI5Zk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050527072678884b09@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:26:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: For 'lan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4REQMSG009157 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/05/26/drivers_study/index.html Rhode Island has the dumbest drivers. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:14:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFE8dE017682 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:14:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:14:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00658273@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:03:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1924193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:03:47 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RF3hLa015550 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:03:43 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527150343.GXRB18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:03:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527150343.DIHL1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:03:43 -0400 Message-ID: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:03:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Starch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What should I take as a starchy dish to somebody's else tomorrow night? There will be chicken and some kind of salad and I'm not sure what else. I'm to do something starchy. Naturally I'm thinking rice. I thought briefly about my wildrice-greenapple recipe but decided it's too salady. Any suggestions? (It's got to be easy -- as in not lots of steps -- I keep things simple. And it's got to be something I can make in advance requiring little or no last-minute fiddling.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:14:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFE8dE017686 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:14:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:14:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006582F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:54:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1923511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:54:07 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4REs6vL013907 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:54:06 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D757@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:54:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:54:05 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: For 'lan To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 27 May 2005 10:30:53 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I've driven in Rhode Island and all I can say is I'm not surprised at >the results. Nor am I surprised at MA and NJ being 2nd and 3rd - though >I might have put NJ above the other two based on my personal >experience. > >BrP Arizona doesn't fare too well for auto accidents ... http://www.smartmotorist.com/red/red.htm Anyone here ever get a camera ticket? Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:14:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFE8dE017684 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:14:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:14:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00658288@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:07:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1924578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:07:09 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RF79G4016493 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:07:09 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527150708.HCHO18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:07:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527150708.DJPE1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:07:08 -0400 Message-ID: <42973799.1020907@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:07:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For 'lan References: <8ddfc8a7050527072678884b09@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050527072678884b09@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of test-taking, did any of you hear the snippet on NPR a day or two ago about the New Orleans schools and how the valedictorian at one high school failed the state graduation exam five times before finally squeaking by on her sixth attempt? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:14:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFE8dE017687 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:14:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:14:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065828D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:08:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1924643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:08:45 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RF8Rlf016618 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:08:27 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D7DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:08:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200505271508.j4RF8Rlf016618@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:08:27 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Fest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We're gearing up for Finger-L Fest here; BrP is hard at work on a t-shirt design, and we're also working out the details of an after-dinner excursion to the Puppet Museum, which will conclude with Strawberry Shortcastle. This has me thinking that it would be good to have a head-count of likely attenders sometime soon. I'd also like advice from previous hosts - what else should I be doing? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:25:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFPldE019262 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:25:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:25:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00658380@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:25:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1926949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:25:46 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFPkLa019705 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:25:46 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4RFPivn018750 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:25:46 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4RFNV6C002366 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:23:32 -0400 Message-ID: <027b01c562d0$0adb7000$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a7050527072678884b09@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: For 'lan Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:23:31 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" > http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/05/26/drivers_study/index.html > > Rhode Island has the dumbest drivers. I could'a told you that... We have an incredible brain drain whenever it starts raining, like for the past 3 weeks. Wet roads compel Rho-Dielanders to drive below the speed limit in the passing lane, to take up both lanes at a right-turn-on-red stop light, and generally to become zombies on the highway. RI Dept of Transportation is commensurate, limiting their road repairs to those traveled by connected politicians. And even then the roads are only as thin as a lowest bidder would spec... In contrast, the roads in up-state NY are real roads... Here they are basically oiled cow-paths which farmers pulled the rocks out of 200 years ago. (Read: new rocks have bubbled up from below) South Kingstown, our great tax collector, contributes gleefully to the general fund by issuing speeding tickets wily Nelly. They've pissed off the general population to the point of an editorial consensus from "decent" people whom have never been treated like this before... and are sounding off. All's I can figure is the Chief of Police must've gotten word from the State that there's some reward for competition in who can contribute most to the general fund. Mind you, that general fund is used for highway budgeting, et al, but I'm not betting on any new resurfacing in town; more likely their stuffing the coffers for Vincent "Buddy" Cianci, when he soon gets out of prison and back into politics. :-\ 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:33:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFXEdE019814 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:33:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:33:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D947@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:33:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1927458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:33:14 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFXDZJ020755 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:33:13 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527153313.ZHQX2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:33:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527153312.EUJX2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:33:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42973DB5.4060403@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:33:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Power Animal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Do y'all think it would be worth $20 to find out whether dogs are my ? ********* Finding Your Personal Power Animal Wednesday, June 15 6:30pm Do you find yourself drawn to a particular animal? Could that animal be your personal power animal? Let Jon Nations help you learn about the Native American tradition of your power animal and discover the lessons they have for you for self development and healing. Cost for class $20. Pre-registration is recommended to save your space. ********* from the Fondren Newsletter -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:36:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFaldE020148 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:36:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:36:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8D922@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:36:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1927642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:36:47 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFakAM021240 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:36:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:36:46 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:36:14 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Power Animal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'll do it for 17.50 BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 5/27/2005 11:33:09 AM >>> Do y'all think it would be worth $20 to find out whether dogs are my ? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:41:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFfKdE020737 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:41:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:41:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006583CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:41:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1927938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:41:19 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFfJYV022065 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:41:19 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-155.gwi.net [216.195.163.155]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4RFfE0o095975; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:41:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527113901.01be7d18@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:41:05 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: For 'lan In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:30 AM 5/27/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I've driven in Rhode Island and all I can say is I'm not surprised at >the results. Nor am I surprised at MA and NJ being 2nd and 3rd - though >I might have put NJ above the other two based on my personal >experience. As one who each season spends a lot of time dodging vehicles from #s 44 through 49, I am not in least surprised. The only possible surprise is that they scored even that high. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:42:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFghdE020887 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:42:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:42:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8D94F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:42:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:42:43 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFgg7d022236 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:42:43 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-155.gwi.net [216.195.163.155]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4RFgd0o096177; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:42:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527114151.01c05b88@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:42:38 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Power Animal In-Reply-To: <42973DB5.4060403@maynor.net> References: <42973DB5.4060403@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:33 AM 5/27/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Do y'all think it would be worth $20 to find out whether dogs are my >? > >********* >Finding Your Personal Power Animal Wednesday, June 15 6:30pm >Do you find yourself drawn to a particular animal? Could that animal be >your personal power animal? Let Jon Nations help you learn about the >Native American tradition of your power animal and discover the lessons >they have for you for self development and healing. Cost for class >$20. Pre-registration is recommended to save your space. But what if you discover that your PPA is an aardvark? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:45:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFjadE021310 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:45:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:45:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8D9B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:45:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:45:28 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFjS7M022672 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:45:28 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so812529wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.68 with SMTP id i68mr1670046wri; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.46 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:45:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gLmUkF603dh/hzPiSXqnfskZN67oe9sysDtzI2PmgtVviJudVolGVAf6mV5RtZ2q7MwGKa1rkRpT/x6ZzIF182bUIB73RydS24qgRN2SIlal5rKR0dX0y8gpsted6FDi7Hdx2HUlS/3E9nRN/VKSbHjwaDlUxiLBOatZox9Ba64= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:45:28 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch In-Reply-To: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4RFjadE021310 Nothing wrong with a salad-y starch IMO. Another good rice one is the rice salad Neal served at Wordstock (from the Silver Palate Cookbook). It's been a summertime staple at my house ever since. OR...how about mac n cheese? Party potatoes? Potato kugel? Marie On 5/27/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > What should I take as a starchy dish to somebody's else tomorrow night? > There will be chicken and some kind of salad and I'm not sure what > else. I'm to do something starchy. Naturally I'm thinking rice. I > thought briefly about my wildrice-greenapple recipe but decided it's too > salady. Any suggestions? (It's got to be easy -- as in not lots of > steps -- I keep things simple. And it's got to be something I can make > in advance requiring little or no last-minute fiddling.) > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:47:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFl9dE021524 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:47:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:47:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8D9BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:47:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:47:09 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFl9mg022811 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:47:09 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1855566wra for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr2610133wrd; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 08:47:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nzupJkkCwYUZKg65Xzm6ag71LJWcrYyI5dtXT7Anir4s4cZ6AnOol+6aQP6LaOrwHmLjP5MXqPpo+BuvRWc8p68Hpn9NVmmEWiKAnbkb7kYiPga7hMN9bxfHRyqK57OdO/GWQNutexHpxgp8L86xYwuFBK3RndxdOnduV1fg8ao= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050527084772406bd8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:47:08 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Unique Recipe In-Reply-To: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4RFl9mg022812 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Someone told me the other day about > "Omelet in a Bag." Have you heard of it? > > - D. M. > Sounds like a great camp recipe! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:50:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFo2dE021922 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:50:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:50:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8D974@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:50:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:50:02 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFo1vr023054 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:50:01 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527155001.FMU2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:50:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527155001.FCQG2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:50:01 -0400 Message-ID: <429741A6.1060104@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:49:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Power Animal References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >I'll do it for 17.50 > > I shall give this consideration. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:50:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFoYdE021998 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:50:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:50:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8D9C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:50:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:50:34 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFoXgC023176 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:50:33 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527155033.GKZ2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:50:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527155033.FCXW2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:50:33 -0400 Message-ID: <429741C5.1030404@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:50:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Power Animal References: <42973DB5.4060403@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050527114151.01c05b88@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527114151.01c05b88@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > But what if you discover that your PPA is an aardvark? There are probably worse PPAs to have. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:57:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFv6dE022741 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:57:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:57:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006582F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:57:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:57:06 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFv5g7024021 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:57:05 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527155705.OUP2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:57:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527155705.FGCO2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:57:05 -0400 Message-ID: <4297434D.9060305@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:57:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >Nothing wrong with a salad-y starch IMO. Another good rice one is the rice >salad Neal served at Wordstock (from the Silver Palate Cookbook). It's been >a summertime staple at my house ever since. > > I'm leaning toward going on and doing the rice-apple thing since I know how to do it and know people seem to like it (more than I myself like it). I just flipped through a stack of Southern Livings in search of ideas, but the only one I found that struck me as a possibility is one for "dilled potato salad with feta." The picture looked pretty. Maybe I should make both and take the one that turns out better. I could keep the other. > OR...how about mac n cheese? Party potatoes? Potato kugel? > > I don't know what "party potatoes" or "potato kugel" are. And the only macaroni and cheese I know how to do is sticking a box of frozen stuff into the toaster oven. Also, I don't think of macaroni and cheese as a side dish, though I realize many people do. I think of it as a main course. It seems too heavy or something to eat in addition to rather than instead of meat. Thank you for the suggestion re salady starches being ok since that encourages me to go ahead with my rice-apple and/or dilled potato salad plan. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 10:58:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RFwHdE022821 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:58:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:58:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006582F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:58:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:58:16 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RFwGi3024135 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:58:16 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527155816.QLF2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:58:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527155816.FGRN2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:58:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42974394.6090603@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:58:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: > Another good rice one is the rice >salad Neal served at Wordstock (from the Silver Palate Cookbook). It's been >a summertime staple at my house ever since. > > PS: Is that recipe online anywhere? I don't know what the Silver Palate Cookbook is. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 11:11:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RGAhdE024641 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:10:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:10:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00658303@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:00:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:00:42 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RG0fwf024506 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:00:42 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 95030272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:58:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42974428.4030204@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:00:40 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > What should I take as a starchy dish to somebody's else tomorrow night? > There will be chicken and some kind of salad and I'm not sure what > else. I'm to do something starchy. Naturally I'm thinking rice. I > thought briefly about my wildrice-greenapple recipe but decided it's too > salady. Any suggestions? (It's got to be easy -- as in not lots of > steps -- I keep things simple. And it's got to be something I can make > in advance requiring little or no last-minute fiddling.) Is anybody cholesterol and/or fat averse? If not, I have a simple potato salad recipe that usually goes over well. Boil potatoes. I use red skinned potatoes and don't peel them. Just cut into bite size pieces and boil. Mix equal parts mayonnaise and sour cream together. Add a bunch of scallions, chopped into 1/4 to 1/2 inch pieces - green part. When the potatoes have cooled a bit, add the sour cream & mayo mixture, the scallions and some pepper to taste into them. Chill until party time. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 11:11:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RGAidE024651 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:10:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:11:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8D9FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:01:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:01:23 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RG1MAW024589 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:01:22 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527160122.UPR2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:01:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527160122.FIDV2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:01:22 -0400 Message-ID: <4297444E.8030408@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:01:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> <42974394.6090603@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42974394.6090603@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just looked in my Toal House cookbook on the chance Neal's rice recipe might be there. When I pulled it off my cookbook shelf, it fell open to "Brad Grissom." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 11:11:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RGAidE024650 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:10:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:11:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8D9E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:00:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:00:42 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RG0gH3024509 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:00:42 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B531E4DF6F403 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:00:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c562d5$335bfdb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> <4297434D.9060305@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: A Starch Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:00:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't know what "party potatoes" > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) A common easy one is frozen hash brown potatoes with mushroom soup and sour cream and shredded cheese and stuff like that. Just mix and bake. Lots of recipes of this type on the internet. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 11:11:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RGAidE024652 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:10:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:11:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8DAC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:10:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1930477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:10:40 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RGAdeq026137 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:10:39 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527161039.BFQT2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:10:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527161038.FMGS2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:10:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4297467B.7080401@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:10:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Recipes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's the one I just found and have not tried yet: Dilled Potato Salad With Feta 2 lbs small red potatos, unpeeled 1/3 cup red wine vinegar 1/3 cup vegetable oil 3 TBS chopped fresh or 1 TBS dried dill 1/2 to 1 tsp salt 1/2 teaspoon pepper 1 large red bell pepper, chopped 1 cucumber, cut in half lengthwise and sliced 1/2 cup sliced green onions 1 (4-oz) package crumbled feta cheese Bring potatoes and water to cover to a boil. Cook 25 to 30 minutes or just until tender; drain and cool. Cut potatoes into quarters. Whisk together vinegar, oil, dill, salt, and pepper. Pour over warm potatoes. Stir in chopped bell pepper, cucumber, and green onions; add cheese, and toss to combine. Cover and chill at least 2 hours. Yield: 6-8 servings ************************ Here's the wild rice one: Wild Rice - Green Apple Salad 2 cups wild rice, uncooked 2 cups chicken broth 4 cups water 1 tsp salt 2 cups golden raisins 1/3 cup sherry 1 TBS grated orange rind 1/2 cup orange juice 1/2 cup commercial Caesar salad dressing 1/4 tsp pepper 2 Granny Smith apples, chopped 1 bunch green onions, sliced 1 cup sunflower kernels Wash rice in 3 changes of hot water; drain. Combine rice and next 3 ingredients in a saucepan; bring to a boil. Cover, reduce heat, and simmer 50 to 60 minutes or until rice is tender; drain, if necessary, and set aside. Combine raisins and sherry; set aside. Combine orange rind and next 3 ingredients; set aside. Combine rice, reserved raisin mixture, apple, green onions, and sunflower kernels. Add orange rind mixture; toss gently. Cover and chill at least 8 hours. Stir before serving. Yield: 8 to 10 servings. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 11:11:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RGAidE024653 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:10:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:11:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8DA34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:07:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1929343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:07:02 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RG71ib025452 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:07:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050527160701011002f3qme>; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:07:01 +0000 Message-ID: <429745A2.9060702@istori.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:06:58 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: PayPal for Brad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia, Espen, whoever, If you'd like, you can send money by PayPal to kaminski@istori.com, and I'll forward a check for the same amount to Natalie. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 11:12:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RGCGdE024836 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:12:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:12:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8DA81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:12:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1930573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:12:15 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RGCE0S026354 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:12:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC212982E1 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:12:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13178-07 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:12:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA299766C for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:12:11 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <429746DB.7020505@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:12:11 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <42953582.8020401@maynor.net> <42960475.3000305@akad.ee> <42970442.9070700@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42970442.9070700@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.499 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > >>>> It must take thick skin not >>>> to feel self-conscious being a hunchback walking into Notre Dame. >>> >> >> It's all up to the movie! > > > But I wrote the above comment based on the book, not the movie. I don't > think I ever saw the movie. Now it occurred to me to look up how the heading of the novel had been translated into English. There may be different translations, however, the first bio-bibliographical site said, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, while in Estonian the heading has been translated either directly from Notre-Dame de Paris, or with a little change, meaning Notre Dame _in_ Paris. This is why although I know and remember Quasimodo being a hunchback he hasn't established himself in my head as the Hunchback. I thought the one-sided heading was just for the (a) movie. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 11:28:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RGSfdE027447 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:28:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:28:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8DB28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:27:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1931826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:27:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RGR35W028757 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:27:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so827427wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.145.15 with SMTP id s15mr1330296wrd; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:27:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Yoxn+ant0yVfqVVVVBBwtXuhQMHh5QcKRnyG+KRGSsZHDt33k5Q9LT4zVEW3cTngq3uxtrJ087jyY6Skj8Dp1sX93L4RB1kxY10eAZ2ehcLEQ/1TmYptze2/aBQn98p014Aq3UC3rSfDh5SrULYGfElc9qS8d+U7xCIpk3iD7xc= Message-ID: <8865866a05052709272b6b2674@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:27:03 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PayPal for Brad In-Reply-To: <429745A2.9060702@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <429745A2.9060702@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4RGR35W028758 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Marcia, Espen, whoever, > > If you'd like, you can send money by PayPal to kaminski@istori.com, and > I'll forward a check for the same amount to Natalie. > > Pete > Perfect! Thank you so very much!!!!!! Money will be forthcoming. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 11:28:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RGSgdE027449 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:28:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:28:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006585C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:28:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1931921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:28:41 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RGSeB6028979 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:28:41 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so828034wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.38 with SMTP id n38mr1691940wrn; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:28:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MLN4RBtCqTin1DtnMor39F8mvUQY3LXTXlOWDa9h2/wF4WfyN21LYZ0OZNG8HC78FjHVM+WMrBHdoxhIbtf2fFF2S1N8KR2E00uhCqAiBJ3sJFIjGtvNrA1QX/jQlJ6cHhnWULstLY4u3Y2Y1LRRL5W9NdDDMDUuOmRhoKCov18= Message-ID: <83db447a05052709283ce264dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:28:40 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4RGSgdE027449 On 5/27/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > Nothing wrong with a salad-y starch IMO. Another good rice one is the rice > salad Neal served at Wordstock (from the Silver Palate Cookbook). It's > been > a summertime staple at my house ever since. > OR...how about mac n cheese? Party potatoes? Potato kugel? > Marie The other evening at Red Sky the starch with my steak was scalloped potatoes baked in sheet pans, so that it all was like the top layer. Very good. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 11:28:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RGSfdE027445 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:28:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:28:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8DB3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:18:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1931377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:18:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RGIeBo027518 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:18:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1576764nzo for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr1039075nzb; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:18:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YD6xT2mfsQkHA6iQtoyeWVJN//4AW13YW7KeL3U9/QBGDdg2c2Q8Iujg0M3nxRs2qbDWvhZ26p/ErLG5aZujrJuR3SoKBjduTRTM2HQINffsd5r2P/weEF05Xgy3x0kda3PbMNoFkYSVEh2AHYLINUKBRRuUi6DMS4+OxOjz0nQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505270918452650ac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:18:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For 'lan In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527113901.01be7d18@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527113901.01be7d18@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4RGIfBo027522 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 10:30 AM 5/27/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >I've driven in Rhode Island and all I can say is I'm not surprised at > >the results. Nor am I surprised at MA and NJ being 2nd and 3rd - though > >I might have put NJ above the other two based on my personal > >experience. > > As one who each season spends a lot of time dodging vehicles from #s 44 > through 49, I am not in least surprised. The only possible surprise is > that they scored even that high. But these days, the majority of questions on the driver's test don't have anything to do with driving, they have to do with drinking and driving. I failed my exam the first time in CA because of that--I skimmed those because I didn't drink. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:15:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RHErdE002470 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:14:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:15:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8DE61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:06:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1937377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:05:57 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RH5ux5002607 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:05:56 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:05:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:05:41 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Unique Recipe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm glad I read the previous posts. BrP -pondering what I might have thought this was >>> dmarkld@INEBRASKA.COM 5/27/2005 12:55:08 PM >>> I forgot an important step: After you get all your stuff in the bag, shake it good to mix everything up, before you place it in the boiling water. - D. M. Someone told me the other day about "Omelet in a Bag." Have you heard of it? You break 2 eggs into a zip-lock quart plastic bag, then add whatever you want. I tried it, and I added chopped onions, chopped green peppers, bits of ham, and shredded cheese. Then you close the bag and place it (zipper at the top) into a pan of boiling water and boil for exactly 13 min. Then unzip the bag and the omelet rolls out easily onto your plate, with the cheese oozing over the top. It was delicious and so easy. No pan to wash. A friend said this is fun to do with a group. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:15:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RHErdE002469 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:14:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:15:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8DC70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:44:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1934314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:44:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RGiqqQ031462 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:44:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so496420nzp for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.18.7 with SMTP id 7mr1135616nzr; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 09:44:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ANYWWb9mRNXOI+DIQxzEDb9hRBpm4i+7rloG7jMMMaV1gWmfNtMqO6cETufZQF9hnBqhlX98esSNp2NKy371Zv9qloGehwEqeH3zq7JngtK1w3L1HkEmM7xMYVJe5kFkciFF2N5zKMBXpNYNykkOtjcZir4D7X2YCBSN4aARkEU= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:44:52 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Unique Recipe In-Reply-To: <46227195050527071858322c73@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <46227195050527071858322c73@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4RGiqqQ031463 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That would seem to avoid one of the best tricks with omelettes (and > make things easier): leaving the eggs them out of the fridge > overnight to reach room temperature. The texture is better and they > fold without tearing. My omelet instructions come from Alton Brown's "Good Eats" show: 1. Warm 3 eggs in hot (not scalding) water for 5 minutes. 2. Crack eggs on a flat surface. Add a pinch of fine, not kosher, salt. 3. Beat with a fork (not a whisk) to keep air bubbles out. 4. Heat pan for a few minutes before adding soft butter. 5. Pour in eggs and stir vigorously with a spatula 5 secs. 6. As curd forms, swirl liquid around and wipe around the edges. 7. Do nothing for 10 secs. 8. Jiggle pan to loosen curd. 9. Fold one third over. 10. Slide onto plate while folding doubled part over thin part. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:15:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RHF6dE002558 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:15:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:15:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065853D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:55:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1935055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:55:23 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RGtNXQ000602 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:55:23 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E7C8F24B6DE8 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 11:55:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001701c562dc$d6cd40b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Subject: Re: Unique Recipe Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:55:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I forgot an important step: After you get all your stuff in the bag, shake it good to mix everything up, before you place it in the boiling water. - D. M. Someone told me the other day about "Omelet in a Bag." Have you heard of it? You break 2 eggs into a zip-lock quart plastic bag, then add whatever you want. I tried it, and I added chopped onions, chopped green peppers, bits of ham, and shredded cheese. Then you close the bag and place it (zipper at the top) into a pan of boiling water and boil for exactly 13 min. Then unzip the bag and the omelet rolls out easily onto your plate, with the cheese oozing over the top. It was delicious and so easy. No pan to wash. A friend said this is fun to do with a group. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:15:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RHF6dE002556 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:15:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:15:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006586F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:55:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1935034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:55:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RGt4EN000487 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:55:04 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-155.gwi.net [216.195.163.155]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4RGsx0o004929; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:55:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527124958.01c0fc20@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:54:22 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Unique Recipe In-Reply-To: References: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <46227195050527071858322c73@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:44 PM 5/27/2005, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > That would seem to avoid one of the best tricks with omelettes (and > > make things easier): leaving the eggs them out of the fridge > > overnight to reach room temperature. The texture is better and they > > fold without tearing. > >My omelet instructions come from Alton Brown's "Good Eats" show: > >1. Warm 3 eggs in hot (not scalding) water for 5 minutes. > >2. Crack eggs on a flat surface. Add a pinch of fine, not kosher, salt. > >3. Beat with a fork (not a whisk) to keep air bubbles out. > >4. Heat pan for a few minutes before adding soft butter. > >5. Pour in eggs and stir vigorously with a spatula 5 secs. >etc. Given that it is Alton, I'm surprised that he didn't specify the weight of the eggs, that the water be filtered, the butterfat content of the butter, and the construction of the spatula handle. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:15:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RHF6dE002560 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:15:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:15:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006587E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:10:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1938622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:10:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RHAwBk003503 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:10:58 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so842367wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.145.14 with SMTP id s14mr1720407wrd; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.46 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:10:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pfRkxdBDyjqTwjRR/qwpwnV24M7dhgcui7uVa0FZOxURVSP2Vpq2MYzAfrN8VcxVdVI/7GufI+viJs9Hl6+l4kF3zAvQpZJBTdRH6r+1+m9TjlhpouDco7O1bpdWq+UWHf9hPQIZsQlieLKY7ZuENRPNA2W4a8iaEocGl4uE898= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:10:57 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch In-Reply-To: <4297444E.8030408@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> <42974394.6090603@maynor.net> <4297444E.8030408@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4RHF6dE002560 I think this is it: http://latticeworld.org/Recipes/rice_vegi_salad.htm I never put the currants in when I make it, fwiw. Marie On 5/27/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I just looked in my Toal House cookbook on the chance Neal's rice recipe > might be there. When I pulled it off my cookbook shelf, it fell open to > "Brad Grissom." > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:44:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RHhjdE007258 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:43:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:44:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8E068@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:33:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1940974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:33:44 -0400 Received: from calmail-be3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RHNhw1005619 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:23:43 -0400 Received: from [207.177.227.238] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu) by calmail-be3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.2.6) with HTTP id 6837623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:23:42 -0700 From: "Betty Clark" Subject: Re: Brad Grissom To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.2.6 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:23:42 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I rather like the posts about Wordslers when they are > gone. It's quite possible Wordslers know a side of >their > people that no one else really knows, and these little > memorials are so sincere. > > - D. M. I do, too. Brad was one of the sweetest people I have known. Memories of SlugFest with him will never be forgotten. I also got to meet his sister, Kay, and John Hannum. Sitting around Marty's pool with Emily working the Crossword Puzzle, IN INK, will not be forgotten either. His many long phone calls and post cards were special. I don't think he ever said a mean word about anybody. A gentle soul indeed. I sat quietly in the cemetery here in Pacific Grove, near Monterey, and thought about him for a while. Took a couple of photos for you, Natalie, but didn't notice any Aschers or Maynors. Disturbed a couple of deer. I let Myles know. They have always kept in touch, too. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 12:44:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RHhjdE007260 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:43:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:44:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8E0D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:39:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1942472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:39:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RHd1Ki007712 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:39:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1618982nzo for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.13 with SMTP id u13mr1085027nzb; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 10:39:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bhks1NCHHzQrICWF6+xNGNxNMa6vtlsBRdnw3oPExOUX6H8AcjQUxSJ1SuSRJwljtf5ABAFQoyc/9Q0aTqpPRiV3yRlsSb6zurZTxzW6WC8V9IFcihtU+8lcM/jCma6xk1e4Gy/O+cpeKxGNxL+iGj/nqhhkUv6CxYX22Qhu91M= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:39:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4RHd1Ki007714 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, Betty Clark wrote: > I let Myles know. They have always kept in touch, too. Do we know what he died of? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:36:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RIaZdE013438 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:36:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:36:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8E5E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:36:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1952702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:36:35 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RIaYAt017364 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:36:34 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-155.gwi.net [216.195.163.155]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4RIaTjq016933; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:36:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527143227.01c0f9f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:32:58 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Unique Recipe In-Reply-To: <001701c562dc$d6cd40b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <001701c562dc$d6cd40b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:55 PM 5/27/2005, Doris Markland wrote: >I forgot an important step: > >After you get all your stuff in the bag, >shake it good to mix everything up, >before you place it in the boiling water. Yeah---otherwise you'd have eggs over easy with glop. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:36:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RIabdE013447 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:36:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:36:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8E5E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:36:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1952707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:36:36 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RIaZaY017368 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:36:35 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-155.gwi.net [216.195.163.155]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4RIaTjr016933; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:36:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527143533.01c051f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:36:14 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - FDA Looking Into Blindness-ED Drug Link - Yahoo! News In-Reply-To: <200505271827.j4RIROI4015613@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200505271827.j4RIROI4015613@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:27 PM 5/27/2005, Alec Plotkin wrote: >Alec Plotkin (plotkina@isc.upenn.edu) has sent you a news article. (Email >address has not been verified.) >------------------------------------------------------------ >Personal message: > >Blind, but happy!! "All cats be gray in the dark" --B. Franklin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:37:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RIbQdE013534 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:37:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:37:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00658BC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:27:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1950372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:27:25 -0400 Received: from n9.bulk.scd.yahoo.com (n9.bulk.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.188]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4RIROI4015613 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:27:24 -0400 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n9.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 May 2005 18:27:24 -0000 Received: from [66.163.172.58] by mailer2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 May 2005 18:27:24 -0000 Message-Id: <200505271827.j4RIROI4015613@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: 27 May 2005 11:27:24 -0700 From: Alec Plotkin To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: Reply-to: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu Subject: Yahoo! News Story - FDA Looking Into Blindness-ED Drug Link - Yahoo! News Errors-To: refertofriend-error@reply.yahoo.com X-Originating-IP: 130.91.35.195 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec Plotkin (plotkina@isc.upenn.edu) has sent you a news article. (Email address has not been verified.) ------------------------------------------------------------ Personal message: Blind, but happy!! FDA Looking Into Blindness-ED Drug Link - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050527/ap_on_he_me/viagra_blindness ============================================================ Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 13:42:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RIfvdE014100 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:41:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:42:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8E678@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:41:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1953343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:41:56 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RIfuHj018477 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:41:56 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:41:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:41:31 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - FDA Looking Into Blindness-ED Drug Link -Yahoo! News Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wonder if they've allowed for increased mastubation as a cause. BrP >>> plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU 5/27/2005 2:27:24 PM >>> Alec Plotkin (plotkina@isc.upenn.edu) has sent you a news article. (Email address has not been verified.) ------------------------------------------------------------ Personal message: Blind, but happy!! FDA Looking Into Blindness-ED Drug Link - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050527/ap_on_he_me/viagra_blindness ============================================================ Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 14:12:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RJBsdE017964 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:11:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:12:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8E7CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:05:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1956478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:05:47 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RJ5lFi022332 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:05:47 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2005052719065711300q17s5e>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:06:57 +0000 Message-Id: <200505271905.j4RJ5lFi022332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Brad Grissom Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:05:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVi7rWxc3AfGgXQQ+2WzIWzuw/OpQAAC10Q Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lawrence Kestenbaum >Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:02 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > >On Fri, 27 May 2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> Do we know what he died of? > >I don't know, but when an obituary states without any >elaboration that a >young person died "suddenly", it usually means suicide. > > Larry > I was thinking heart attack maybe. He was a smoker. Who knows. Alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 14:12:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RJBsdE017963 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:11:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:12:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8E766@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:01:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1955645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:01:53 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RJ1q1n021354 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:01:52 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4RJ1kKR008640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:01:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:01:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 27 May 2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Do we know what he died of? I don't know, but when an obituary states without any elaboration that a young person died "suddenly", it usually means suicide. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 14:22:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RJMddE019134 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:22:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 14:22:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8E99B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:22:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1957974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:22:39 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f2.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RJCdLG023511 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:12:39 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 27 May 2005 12:12:38 -0700 Received: from 64.4.61.204 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:12:37 GMT Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.204] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:12:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2005 19:12:38.0810 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C4EEFA0:01C562F0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm sorry to hear about Brad. My favorite memories of him are from the GoatRoast road trip when Emily and I caravaned with him and Maj. Hannum. Brad had carefully planned the itinerary and took great delight in showing us many of his favorite spots - Tupelo, Oxford, Memphis, UKy library, Natchez trail ... We met his dad and grandmother, heard many stories, drank many beers. Farewell, Brad! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 15:05:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RK5cdE023867 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:05:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:05:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8ECDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:05:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1966466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:05:37 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RK5ZIb001365 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:05:35 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8ECC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:05:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200505272005.j4RK5ZIb001365@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:05:35 -0400 From: Neal Traven Subject: Re: A Starch To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 27 May 2005 14:10:57 -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: >I think this is it: http://latticeworld.org/Recipes/rice_vegi_salad.htm >I never put the currants in when I make it, fwiw. > Marie Yes, that's the recipe. Mmmmmm... I do use the currants, and have been known to add coarsely chopped pecans or walnuts. Note that it makes *a lot* of rice salad. For Wordstock, I think I made just a single recipe. > On 5/27/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> I just looked in my Toal House cookbook on the chance Neal's rice recipe >> might be there. When I pulled it off my cookbook shelf, it fell open to >> "Brad Grissom." >> >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Somehow, I didn't contribute a recipe to the Toal House book. Probably because I misread the instructions to be a request for something I'd concocted myself, rather than borrowed from a favorite cookbook. I've never written down the recipe for anything I've devised, since it's always just by feel. If I'd contributed a cookbook favorite, it would have been either that rice salad or the veal marengo in Julia's Mastering the Art (one of the few truly simple recipes in the book). >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 15:19:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RKJEdE025253 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:19:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:19:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8ED49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:19:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1967578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:19:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RKJAuC003816 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:19:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so902220wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.72 with SMTP id i72mr1800377wri; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:19:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YjG8bz9zwb3FUB3J4YpgmBjlrYMHAS1bfTY2Fz2GYigPNmudX4yyBuakcBqQg3LUsfVTv4UkJUuul6HWhrmdV/VBQGL+wLOAGmlLWT+29/+lNMtNimV3zJiKbrDC0g7WBeO3igylvtnMidhN2PFLTsBEYt5gqrN4rm9sur0zaa8= Message-ID: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:19:10 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: wissinte@muohio.edu, wissinhd@muohio.edu, lrbrown4@bellsouth.net, tcombs@acadia.net, april@barharbormaine.org, roseannofga@yahoo.com, tessnalencz@yahoo.com, marialicew@att.net, amack@clis.com, kring@sover.net, danandlisa@earthlink.net Subject: photos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4RKJEdE025253 For those of you who have a lot of time on your hands, the photos of our recent Norwegian Coastal Voyage (Hurtigruten) are now on my Webshots page at www.tinyurl.com/r2o7 under Hurtigruten 2005. There are three volumes. Some will note similar photos from the 2004 voyage. That's why we went back---to see the area with snow. There are some parts of the collection that are different. For example, the Lyng Alps, which didn't impress me all that much in the autumn were incredible with their snow cover---especially with the lighting and clouds that existed. clyde , From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 15:27:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RKRHdE026086 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:27:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 15:27:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8ED5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:27:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1968199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:27:17 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RKRG22005111 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:27:17 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so574598rnf for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.11.27 with SMTP id 27mr981858rnk; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 13:27:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HnMYZPxYXqAX8fqJUnYoXmDa0VgaAG6v4w4KEFYmkCxLXFL4QyU/ZNcFNcFbneEEB1dFF3KcfcJqnpRfS4N9zXAX+RRfSw3KF9cdUB3+cRIF0M5lJrx/LDExibYjvpWA/pFUMHqOXqn2tlpVmo+SY9iTJ53phM9ikV16M2AdbHM= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:27:16 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4RKRH22005112 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > Do we know what he died of? > > I don't know, but when an obituary states without any elaboration that a > young person died "suddenly", it usually means suicide. That's certainly not the case in my culture. "Suddenly" usually just means that it was something unexpected like a heart attack rather than "after a long illness". Of course these days it's much more common than before to be quite specific about what someone died of. There's also a convention of mentioning a health-related charity that indicates the illness. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 16:37:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RLb9dE002579 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:37:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:37:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8F006@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:37:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1973439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:37:09 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RLb9qm015451 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:37:09 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527213708.IFCM2486.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:37:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527213708.KQVF25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:37:08 -0400 Message-ID: <429792FD.7000201@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:37:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Well, It Looks Pretty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dilled Potato Salad with Feta: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/pot.jpg It also tasted pretty good, but the test will be after it's chilled. You're not supposed to eat it until then. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 16:47:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RLlFdE003698 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:47:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:47:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8F040@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:47:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1974039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:47:14 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RLlExo016313 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:47:14 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4RLlEvP028492 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:47:14 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4RLj46C015809 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:45:06 -0400 Message-ID: <006501c56305$58fdc6e0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5CA2C15A1F22834B940ECDF78C2F0C6528D83E@e2kb31.ad.uky.edu> <3c1d5b5005052604576fb976fd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:45:04 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Espen Ore" >I just received this message and I am feeling very sad: That -is- sad... and I will miss him; he was always kind. Ter and I met him ftf in the parking lot at the Clam Slam... he introduced himself as Tushar ;-) R.I.P. Brad... we'll all be joining you soon enough. 'Brer Al From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 16:59:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RLxKdE004702 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:59:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:59:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8F081@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:59:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1974548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:59:19 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RLxJmb017524 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:59:19 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527215919.MEZZ2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:59:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527215918.HXZP29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:59:18 -0400 Message-ID: <42979833.9080504@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:59:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fest References: <200505271508.j4RF8Rlf016618@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505271508.j4RF8Rlf016618@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >This has me thinking that it would be good to have a head-count >of likely attenders sometime soon. > It is still my intention to be there, even though it would be mighty nice if you'd have Syracuse move several hundred miles down the road. I love I-81 until it gets up to about Pennsylvania. Then it isn't fun anymore. > I'd also like advice from >previous hosts - what else should I be doing? > > The main things I remember dithering about were making the arrangements for the Herbert Hall lodging (for those who chose to stay there, which turned out to be most people -- all-night poker-playing, I understand), making arrangements for a site for the Fest itself (and going over there and cutting the grass a couple of days before), making the BBQ order (which John Hannum went with me to pick up on Fest day). After those arrangements, I moved into the easier things like shopping for the various things in addition to the BBQ, planning for the lasagne party at my house the night before, etc. Oh -- I also mailed packets to all the attendees a few weeks in advance of the fest -- stuff I picked up at the Chamber of Commerce, a map I'd drawn of how to find the fest site with caution about the drunk drivers on that country road, etc. And I also did the t-shirt stuff early and mailed those to the buyers. The fest tradition changed at some stage -- can't remember exactly when -- in that in the olden days there was a price attached to attendance. I remember that it was a high price for Clambake (since that was a real clambake done by professionals and cost a bunch). It was lower for other fests. I think GoatRoast was the cheapest since I way underestimated it at $10. But back then, even though many of us did spend a good bit on hosting the fests, the idea was that we weren't supposed to (except of course for extra parties, like the night before). Suddenly that changed. Now the hosts do the providing of food, and the festers bring beverages and possibly edibles to add to the spread. I'm mentioning this because in future years if somebody would like to host a fest but can't afford to, said person should remind us of the old tradition. Actually, I think we had a few years of fests that were in restaurants between the old tradition and the new. That's probably what led to the forgetting of the old way. And that's another thought re future fests. We don't even have to have a local coordinator. We can just choose a place on the map and all show up there, festing at a designated place in that locale. (But it's fun, of course, to have local coordinators since part of the fun to me is visiting the home bases of Wordslers.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:21:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RMKldE007184 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:20:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:21:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006594A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:20:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1975988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:20:46 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RMKih4020536 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:20:44 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527222044.EXXP16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:20:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527222044.JEPX5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:20:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42979D38.4040603@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:20:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> <42974428.4030204@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42974428.4030204@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Is anybody cholesterol and/or fat averse? If not, I have a simple > potato salad recipe that usually goes over well. I have your recipe both on my computer and printed in my recipe box. You sent it to me sometime way back when I was planning food for something. I think I remember -- it was that luncheon with smoked salmon when Doris suggested potato salad, which led to our discussion of potato salad, and then I ended up buying some really great and sort of potato salad at City Bagel in Starkville. It was a big hit. So until today I had never made potato salad -- and this stuff I made today, though called potato salad, doesn't really look like traditional potato salad. > Boil potatoes. I use red skinned potatoes and don't peel them. Just > cut into bite size pieces and boil. When I got into my making of today's potato stuff, I noticed that the recipe was vague re the boiling of the potatoes. It said something like "cover the potatoes with water and bring to a boil and continue cooking for 25-30 minutes." Suddenly I was wondering what that meant exactly. It didn't say cover, so I didn't cover them. And it didn't say anything like "reduce heat to simmer" so I didn't, though I decided that high was probably too high and did reduce it to something like 8 (which I think maybe is low-high or some such -- I still hate that my big black kitchen thing has numbers instead of words). Anyway, I think the potatoes turned out ok. Speaking of my big black kitchen thing, I still don't know what half of its top is for. I understand the two burners since I understand what burners are for. But the other side is a solid grill thing, with two separate elements(?) under it, with separate knobs. At some point a while back I wanted to use more than two burners and decided to try to use that half of the big black thing, but when I turned one of the knobs on, a roaring sound made me think that that side is not for normal cooking. So it just sits there unused. Does anybody know what that side is supposed to be used for? > Mix equal parts mayonnaise and sour cream together. > Add a bunch of scallions, chopped into 1/4 to 1/2 inch pieces - green > part. I think it was on Words-L that I first heard of scallions. I now know that that's the Yankee word for green onions. But I have a question re scallions/greenonions -- your "green part" reminded me of it. This is something that I might have asked before since it's something I know I've asked somewhere sometime but don't remember the answer. When a recipe calls for "chopped green onions" (or in the case of the one today "sliced green onions" -- how that differs from chopped when talking about green onions, I don't know), how far up the green do you go? I went way up today because the bunch of green onions I'd bought was fairly small, and it took going way up the green to come up with the 1/2 cup called for. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) PS: I don't know whether anybody in the group is cholesterol or fat averse. I don't know these people well. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:28:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RMS5dE007859 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:28:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:28:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8F157@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:28:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1976234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:28:05 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RMS4oo021348 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:28:04 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527222804.FDCG16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:28:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527222804.JGFU5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:28:04 -0400 Message-ID: <42979EF0.30509@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:28:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PayPal for Brad References: <429745A2.9060702@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <429745A2.9060702@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Marcia, Espen, whoever, > > If you'd like, you can send money by PayPal to kaminski@istori.com, and > I'll forward a check for the same amount to Natalie. Thank you, Pete. I feel sure that Marcia, Espen, and maybe others will find that convenient. It's good to have a PayPal-savvy Wordsler! The main thing I know about PayPal is that I'm constantly getting PayPal-related spam -- or I assume it's spam -- something about my "PayPal account." Whether I have such an account isn't totally clear to me. I remember using PayPal when you acted as coordinator for the Evelyn scholarship fund. That was my first time. After that I think I used it once or twice on Ebay, but all I remember is giving my Visa number -- like it was a third-party Visa-payment thing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:43:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RMgsdE009777 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:42:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:43:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8F1B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:32:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1976813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:32:52 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RMWpMC021918 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:32:51 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527223251.FGNL16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:32:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527223251.JHEA5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:32:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4297A00F.8060108@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:32:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <42953582.8020401@maynor.net> <42960475.3000305@akad.ee> <42970442.9070700@maynor.net> <429746DB.7020505@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <429746DB.7020505@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > This is why although I know and remember Quasimodo being a hunchback he > hasn't established himself in my head as the Hunchback. > I thought the one-sided heading was just for the (a) movie. I think it's fairly safe to say that most USAers, probably most Anglos of any nationality, think of Quasimodo immediately when hearing the term "hunchback" -- and vice-versa (though anybody who knows the novel knows that he was a nice hunchback). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:43:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RMgsdE009776 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:42:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:43:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8F231@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:40:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1977901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:40:19 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RMeIOQ022689 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:40:18 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527224019.FLIK16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:40:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527224018.JIMI5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:40:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4297A1CE.3000009@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:40:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> <42974394.6090603@maynor.net> <4297444E.8030408@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >I think this is it: http://latticeworld.org/Recipes/rice_vegi_salad.htm >I never put the currants in when I make it, fwiw. > > Thanks. It sounds kind of complicated. I'm not even sure what a shallot is, though I've heard the term (heard it related to food, I mean -- not re The Lady of Shallot). And when it says "frozen peas," what kind of peas does it mean? And what is "Italian parsley"? How does Italian parsley differ from US parsley? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 17:44:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RMiBdE009874 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:44:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:44:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065951C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:34:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1977072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:34:06 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RMY6YV022071 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:34:06 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527223406.FHIQ16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:34:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527223405.JHIZ5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:34:05 -0400 Message-ID: <4297A05A.90403@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:34:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> <83db447a05052709283ce264dd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05052709283ce264dd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > The other evening at Red Sky the starch with my steak was scalloped >potatoes baked in sheet pans, so that it all was like the top layer. Very >good. > > That does sound good, though not like something easy to take to somebody's house -- or like something I would know how to produce anyway. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:04:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RN3vdE011863 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:03:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:04:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8F385@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:03:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1980807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:03:57 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RN3u84025273 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:03:56 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527230357.ZBHH18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:03:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527230356.KFLU11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:03:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4297A758.4010703@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:03:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Do we know what he died of? > > My guess was heart attack, but I don't know. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:08:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RN8pdE012318 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:08:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:08:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8F399@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:08:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1980969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:08:50 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RN8oEQ025752 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:08:50 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527230850.ZEBG18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:08:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527230849.KGJV11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:08:49 -0400 Message-ID: <4297A87D.2070704@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:08:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I don't know, but when an obituary states without any elaboration that a > young person died "suddenly", it usually means suicide. I hadn't thought of that -- at least not direct suicide. I do think he might have been indirectly killing himself. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:12:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNCjdE012554 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:12:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:12:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006596CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:02:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1980713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:02:43 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RN2hPD025196 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:02:43 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527230243.ZAOZ18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:02:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527230242.KFFC11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:02:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4297A70F.8090001@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:02:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > A > gentle soul indeed. Well put. He was indeed a gentle soul -- and a troubled one. I sometimes wondered what he was like before the death of his younger sister. Every time I hear "How Great Thou Art," I think about Brad's sister's funeral. > I sat quietly in the cemetery here in Pacific Grove, near > Monterey, and thought about him for a while. Took a > couple of photos for you, Natalie, but didn't notice any > Aschers or Maynors. Disturbed a couple of deer. I don't need photos. Send them to Find-a-Grave. I don't save grave photos -- I delete them instantly upon shooting them away to Find-a-Grave. It's funny how Find-a-Grave I've been lately. But I get on kicks, and that was a recent kick, perhaps on the wane now. (I did finish submitting early today a bunch of pictures I had taken at the Utica Cemetery a couple of days ago -- the cemetery with the fancy tombstones like the man's statue. But I felt no compulsion to take more grave pictures today.) I am, however, planning on going over to southern Lee County, AL, soon to search again for my gg-grandfather's grave. I went there the Saturday after Thanksgiving in search of it, but that's when the skies darkened horribly, rain started pelting down, and I could not find his grave in the cemetery beside the church that's beside his house -- a house that is still standing and inhabited, a house he built in the early 1840s. Supposedly he was buried there in 1860 -- was buried on his "homeplace." Where he was buried then turned into a cemetery associated with the church that his family gave the land for. I gave up that rainy day and hit the road to home because not only was I not making any progress in finding the grave, I was also feeling somewhat nervous about my environs -- something I have never felt before anywhere. Rural Alabama is different from rural Mississippi. The redneck level is much higher in Alabama, imho. And I started feeling downright worried with my Kerry sticker on my car in an area that had a church sign like this one: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/pg-church.jpg That sign, on top of the dark skies and rain, gave me the willies. AND THAT IS THE CHURCH THAT HIS FAMILY -- *MY* ANCESTRAL FAMILY -- GAVE THE LAND FOR! Anyway, I do want to go again in search of his grave. > I let Myles know. They have always kept in touch, too. I did also. Myles and I talked about Brad when I was in SF, and he said he hadn't heard from him lately. In retrospect, I see that as part of the sad picture. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:14:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNENdE012713 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:14:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:14:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8F3FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1981127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:23 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNEJwh026359 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:19 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8F3E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200505272314.j4RNEJwh026359@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:19 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Fest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 27 May 2005 16:59:15 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> I'd also like advice from >>previous hosts - what else should I be doing? >> >> >The main things I remember dithering about *lots of good advice snipped* I was afraid I was behind schedule, but given the pace of life recently, I had to wait for a lull ("a lull" - ha!). Well, I guarantee the food will be excellent, and the company wordslish. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:15:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNEwdE012780 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:14:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:15:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8F3EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1981146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:57 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNEvCd026519 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050527231456014003n19je>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:14:56 +0000 Message-ID: <4297A9F0.30604@istori.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:14:56 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PayPal for Brad References: <429745A2.9060702@istori.com> <42979EF0.30509@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42979EF0.30509@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > Thank you, Pete. I feel sure that Marcia, Espen, and maybe others will > find that convenient. I've already mailed you 3 checks from others and 1 check from me. I ended up making separate checks, because I thought that conveyed the memorial symbolism better. > It's good to have a PayPal-savvy Wordsler! The > main thing I know about PayPal is that I'm constantly getting > PayPal-related spam -- or I assume it's spam -- something about my > "PayPal account." That's "phishing." You might get similar mail that appears to be from other banks and institutions, too. Really, it's not from the institution, but from a third-party scammer who has set up a fake web site that mimics the real site, in the hope that you'll log in to "update your account information" or whatever. If someone does log in (some of them are quite convincing), they save the username and password for themselves, and use it later to log in as you and conduct financial transactions to their benefit. The big rule is not to click on links in emails unless you were specifically expecting to get that email (like a first time registration). As the FTC says, "If you get an email or pop-up message that asks for personal or financial information, do not reply or click on the link in the message. Legitimate companies don't ask for this information via email. If you are concerned about your account, contact the organization in the email using a telephone number you know to be genuine, or open a new Internet browser session and type in the company's correct Web address. In any case, don't cut and paste the link in the message." http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/alerts/phishingalrt.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:16:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNGBdE012957 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:16:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:16:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006598AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:16:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1981157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:16:11 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNGBiH026716 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:16:11 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527231610.ZHXK18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:16:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527231610.KHWR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:16:10 -0400 Message-ID: <4297AA37.6000902@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:16:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505271905.j4RJ5lFi022332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505271905.j4RJ5lFi022332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >I was thinking heart attack maybe. He was a smoker. Who knows. > > Somebody presumably knows. Kay for one. As much as I hate telephones, I do think I should try to track down her phone number somehow and call her. Not to inquire about the cause of death really. Just to talk to her about Brad and what was going on with him in his final months of life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:19:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNIrdE013274 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:18:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:18:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8F407@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:18:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1981217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:18:53 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNIr0x026891 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:18:53 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527231852.ZJGP18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:18:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527231852.KIKN11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:18:52 -0400 Message-ID: <4297AAD9.20203@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:18:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I'm sorry to hear about Brad. My favorite memories of him are from the > GoatRoast road trip when Emily and I caravaned with him and Maj. Hannum. Where did Norman fit in? I was thinking that he was somehow part of that caravan. > Brad had carefully planned the itinerary and took great delight in > showing > us many of his favorite spots - Tupelo, Oxford, Memphis, UKy library, > Natchez trail ... We met his dad and grandmother, heard many stories, > drank many beers. Farewell, Brad! Or was it that Norman was part of your arrival caravan and Brad and John the departure caravan? I remember that y'all went to Oxford and got together with Gerald Walton. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:19:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNJcdE013360 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:19:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:19:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8F41C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:19:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1981509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:19:38 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNJbAL027040 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:19:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so942029wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.17 with SMTP id t17mr1857183wra; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.46 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:19:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OQ9KkcwsFU8CkaC6RP7ZeKRgB2uLH+9u+MXwM46wLRB9jdWSm7sjVUS1e9DoV/heMwH46FdLKaI9ZFns+m7E9MjylWVLWr8QOVHspjUehvJPczyLAOuQy0dxsrTk1YU5Ra6xerjpKQRfcxKhnc+6+4cBN3PQbXk0mouMW7q/X9A= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:19:37 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch In-Reply-To: <4297A1CE.3000009@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> <42974394.6090603@maynor.net> <4297444E.8030408@maynor.net> <4297A1CE.3000009@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4RNJcdE013360 On 5/27/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Thanks. It sounds kind of complicated. It's not. It's pretty much a chop it all up and mix it together kind of thing. > I'm not even sure what a shallot is, It's a member of the onion family, shaped more like garlic. Milder than other onions. But in that recipe, you might be able to do without since there are also scallions and red ("purple") onions involved. > And when it says "frozen peas," what kind of peas does it mean? Green peas? > And what is "Italian parsley"? Flat parsley. As opposed to the curly decorative stuff. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:29:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNT8dE014322 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:29:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:29:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8F65C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:29:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1985858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:23:40 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNNeuN028074 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:23:40 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527232340.ZLUD18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:23:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527232339.KJHD11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:23:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4297ABF8.8050501@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:23:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch References: <200505272005.j4RK5ZIb001365@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505272005.j4RK5ZIb001365@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Neal Traven wrote: >Somehow, I didn't contribute a recipe to the Toal House book. Probably >because I misread the instructions to be a request for something I'd >concocted myself, rather than borrowed from a favorite cookbook. I've >never written down the recipe for anything I've devised, since it's always >just by feel. > > I really loved that DorisS came up with that idea and implemented it. Do y'all remember that Brad's recipe was in German? I wish Doris would return to the list. And let us not forget in Syracuse to call her on July 3 to say HB. To cut down on our usual searching around for her phone number and sometimes calling wrong Smiths in the Houston area, does anybody have her phone number handy? Did we call her from St. Louis? I'm suddenly blanking on that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:29:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNTldE014407 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:29:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:29:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00659A82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:29:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1986315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:26:57 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNQu2O028397 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:26:57 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DDAC12F078C02 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:26:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c56313$87c4fe90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: R. I. P. Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:26:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4RNTldE014407 Eddie Albert. 99. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:32:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNWcdE014692 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:32:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:32:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8F6DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:32:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1986911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:32:38 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNWcew028959 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:32:38 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527233238.ZQSK18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:32:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050527233237.KKYS11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:32:37 -0400 Message-ID: <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:32:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photos References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >For those of you who have a lot of time on your hands, the photos of our >recent Norwegian Coastal Voyage (Hurtigruten) are now on my Webshots page at >www.tinyurl.com/r2o7 under Hurtigruten 2005. > I've looked at only volume 1 so far but will return to look at the others. And I looked at the thumbnails for most of them but could tell that they're all beautiful. Will do more clicking when I return. Being into people pictures, I naturally clicked on the one with a person. Good picture: http://community.webshots.com/photo/349986888/350123144VHPzZc -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:53:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNrYdE017484 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:53:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:53:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8F757@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1987898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:33 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNrX1m030799 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:33 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005052723533301600sl96re>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:53:33 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Brad Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:29 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4296C67D.8020805@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > We are not really a check-using nation any more, and it is quite a > hassle to go to a bank and order a check (not that I really mind if this > is the best way), so maybe I could mail some cash to you, Natalie? > > Espen Natalie, do you have Paypal? --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:53:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNrgdE017532 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:53:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:53:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8F76D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1987922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:42 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNrf0a030825 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so947739wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.62 with SMTP id 62mr1399365wrz; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:53:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nJw8EmptEXdSfyrgazPFcGwnW6i4kTmbwYxPUPs4PNK/nDaGJ5EbYkc/AvoMm+h0WhlT5rOGkHj490HWxdnnMhc/Z0PRlbDLWV2vEbGr3SQVJrWpiw4hCE/45MEyiAUuV07cSX+FfKrxyldQqQKRut077f91BMOx4HSc4WD2JsE= Message-ID: <83db447a05052716532dd7ec63@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:41 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch In-Reply-To: <4297A1CE.3000009@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> <42974394.6090603@maynor.net> <4297444E.8030408@maynor.net> <4297A1CE.3000009@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4RNrgdE017532 On 5/27/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Thanks. It sounds kind of complicated. I'm not even sure what a > shallot is,, A shallot is of the onion family---larger than garlic and smaller than most onions. In taste, it is about halfway between onion and garlic. It can be easily diced very fine. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 18:56:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4RNuddE017977 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:56:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:56:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8F73B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:56:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1988132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:56:38 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4RNucKG031073 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:56:38 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so948226wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.38 with SMTP id n38mr1854423wrn; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:56:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FBHfqa2dW2XgWK3RlfkFBdZ6//O7IRt6GPOo4qRQjDlQNNhBkrQ8Wno0xePAyXVSbInsrJQy4aQoUPproE1pRv/DPAv4e5fKOxyM3kLPAiieahIKakAdV/W9eztRWzdmdy1aZZHrgH3sK7eI5xkuzGtiriGBFXmZXiYM656agy0= Message-ID: <83db447a0505271656518ddb2d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:56:38 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <4297A758.4010703@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <4297A758.4010703@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4RNuddE017977 On 5/27/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >Do we know what he died of? > > > > > My guess was heart attack, but I don't know. Why the morbid curiosity? What difference does it make? Dead is dead. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:11:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0BedE020305 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:11:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:11:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8F776@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:01:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1988568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:01:40 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S01eB9031513 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:01:40 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so949071wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.61 with SMTP id z61mr1868590wrz; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:01:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iXB349OW2vkWqcTGSSAIpZ3hv1iNfnRGnPnfswanCFIWSYmK6G16c2NLkLQ+Sm1ffPttb2Grqr++eBpVQzycUJCWsgXTxi2mgI2rb7xjESvviKF/65H84U+cyy40aVzEzpEUDiHo/pK+zdoMVZQAJaxvcceJct8C4/AYtBql/84= Message-ID: <83db447a05052717016ff68ff3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:01:39 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photos In-Reply-To: <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4S0BedE020305 On 5/27/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > >For those of you who have a lot of time on your hands, the photos of our > >recent Norwegian Coastal Voyage (Hurtigruten) are now on my Webshots page > at > >www.tinyurl.com/r2o7 < > http://www.tinyurl.com/r2o7> under Hurtigruten 2005. > > > I've looked at only volume 1 so far but will return to look at the > others. And I looked at the thumbnails for most of them but could tell > that they're all beautiful. Will do more clicking when I return. Being > into people pictures, I naturally clicked on the one with a person. > Then you'll probably enjoy the series on the Oksfjord brass (with one woodwind) ensemble. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:21:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0LKdE021585 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:21:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:21:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00659E34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:21:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1992561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:21:14 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0LDXf000854 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:21:14 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005052800211301100ns78ke>; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:21:13 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Brad Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:21:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Natalie, do you have Paypal? > > --Adam I really should know better to read ahead before replying..... --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:23:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0NXdE021794 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:23:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:23:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00659EF2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:23:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1994100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:22:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0Mbk5001202 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:22:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2026666wra for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.91.3 with SMTP id o3mr2832675wrb; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:22:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qxL/57DzISbNdUDJEnJteVyLJOBqW3+UkRvlTAM8ilqDOjwZbiGVPVCKRBre/Nhoz4qWc//dOITcXo03KSyaxAEmSzctbgL6RxycksfbCNSIFW5333BCHgzE/w7mXFIXH5W7EwesNovmdBv2ylDTj9EebJIl1SY8DcHc59h2Wwk= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:22:37 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photos In-Reply-To: <83db447a05052717016ff68ff3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> <83db447a05052717016ff68ff3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4S0NXdE021794 > > > Will do more clicking when I return. Being > > into people pictures, I naturally clicked on the one with a person. > --Natalie > > Then you'll probably enjoy the series on the Oksfjord brass (with one > woodwind) ensemble. > cwv > Right now she is enjoying the pictures I back-channeled her of the photographer himself. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:28:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0SbdE022310 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:28:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:28:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00659F2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:28:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1994643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:28:32 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0STXF002100 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:28:29 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528002829.DQOS5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:28:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528002829.JGHB7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:28:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:28:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Pay-Pal and Brad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm a believer! Pay-Pal is cool. I just got word from Pete that $160 is already on its way, thanks to Pay-Pal. I'm feeling inspired now at the fund-raising thing. A fund-raiser I am not, but I am feeling excited at the thought that we may be able to accumulate enough money to make Brad a -- a what? -- to make him remembered in Tupelo, at least by the library board members. I should add, btw, that Tupelo is a worthy town. If Brad had been emotionally connected to just any old town, we would have no doubt wanted to honor him via that any old town. But Tupelo is an especially good little town. In spite of its being tainted by the fact that that "moral majority" idiot whose name I can't remember lives there, it is overall a progressive town. I've never been in the library there, but I can say with a good bit of confidence that it is a place where your money will be well spent. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:32:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0WXdE022718 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:32:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:32:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8FB3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:32:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1995220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:32:33 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0WXR1002844 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:32:33 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528003233.DRSI5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:32:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528003232.JGWH7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:32:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4297BC1D.20404@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:32:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PayPal for Brad References: <429745A2.9060702@istori.com> <42979EF0.30509@maynor.net> <4297A9F0.30604@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <4297A9F0.30604@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > I've already mailed you 3 checks from others and 1 check from me. I > ended up making separate checks, because I thought that conveyed the > memorial symbolism better. Yes, that's good. Do we want to just say "Words-L" on the letter when the money is sent? (I will also add some explanatory note about what Words-L is, of course.) >> It's good to have a PayPal-savvy Wordsler! The >> main thing I know about PayPal is that I'm constantly getting >> PayPal-related spam -- or I assume it's spam -- something about my >> "PayPal account." > > That's "phishing." You might get similar mail that appears to be from > other banks and institutions, too. Oh yes. I know it's phishing. I just meant that that is the primary way PayPal enters my consciousness. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:37:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0badE023137 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:37:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:37:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8FB77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:37:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1995689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:37:36 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0baJO003351 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:37:36 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528003736.DTBX5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:37:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528003735.JHNO7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:37:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4297BD4C.6070409@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:37:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Starch References: <429736CB.1000902@maynor.net> <42974394.6090603@maynor.net> <4297444E.8030408@maynor.net> <4297A1CE.3000009@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >>Thanks. It sounds kind of complicated. >> >> > It's not. It's pretty much a chop it all up and mix it together kind of >thing. > > I will look at it again. I remember another vocabulary item that put me off -- "julien"? That's something that I've heard before re cooking but don't know what is. > > I'm not even sure what a shallot is, > It's a member of the onion family, shaped more like garlic. Milder than >other onions. But in that recipe, you might be able to do without since >there >are also scallions and red ("purple") onions involved. > > I'm a follower of recipes. Rather than doing without, I would go to the grocery store and buy a shallot. > > And when it says "frozen peas," what kind of peas does it mean? > Green peas? > > As in English peas? I wondered when I read that since there are a gazillion different kinds of frozen peas in grocery stores, at least around here. > > And what is "Italian parsley"? > Flat parsley. As opposed to the curly decorative stuff. > > That also I've never paid attention to. I guess what I meant about this recipe's sounding was that it introduced so many things that I would have to look for at the grocery store -- as in reading labels above the bins instead of just walking over and picking up a familiar item without having to read its name. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:38:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0cadE023261 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:38:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:38:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8FB9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:38:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1995820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:38:36 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0cate003449 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:38:36 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528003836.DTIQ5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:38:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528003835.JHRB7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:38:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4297BD88.2060102@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:38:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >Natalie, do you have Paypal? > > As you now know, no. But I'm curious about your question. What exactly does it mean to "have Paypal"? And why would somebody like me ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:40:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0efdE023374 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:40:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:40:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8FBC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:40:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1996308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:40:41 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0efvo003769 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:40:41 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528004041.DTVT5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:40:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528004040.JHZA7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:40:40 -0400 Message-ID: <4297BE04.5060803@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:40:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <4297A758.4010703@maynor.net> <83db447a0505271656518ddb2d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a0505271656518ddb2d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >>My guess was heart attack, but I don't know. >> >> > Why the morbid curiosity? What difference does it make? Dead is dead. > > It's true that dead is dead, but I think it is totally normal for people who care about somebody to want to know why that person died -- not necessarily specific medical details, but a general idea. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:42:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0gmdE023637 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:42:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:42:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8FBD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:42:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1996387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:42:48 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0gl2D003955 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:42:47 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528004247.DULE5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:42:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528004247.JIGR7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:42:47 -0400 Message-ID: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:42:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>Natalie, do you have Paypal? >> >>--Adam >> >> > >I really should know better to read ahead before replying..... > > It's a noble Words-L tradition not to. Besides, your question prompted me to ask a question that I hope somebody will answer -- about why somebody like me would . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:43:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0hadE023724 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:43:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:43:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8FB9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:43:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1996421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:43:35 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0hZbP004048 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:43:35 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528004335.DUQF5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:43:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528004334.JIJO7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:43:34 -0400 Message-ID: <4297BEB3.4060403@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 19:43:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photos References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> <83db447a05052717016ff68ff3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > Right now she is enjoying the pictures I back-channeled her of the >photographer himself. > > And they are far more interesting than any pictures of mountains and stuff! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:53:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0rHdE024953 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8FBCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:53:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1996808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:53:17 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0rGRF004947 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:53:17 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005052800531601100ns81je>; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:53:16 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Brad Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:53:13 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4297BD88.2060102@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > As you now know, no. But I'm curious about your question. What exactly > does it mean to "have Paypal"? And why would somebody like me ? I meant did you have an account with them, similarly to having a credit card. Someone like you would have it because you'd get a gazillion FF miles or something from it, I dunno. I just thought I'd ask before I wrote out a check. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 19:54:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S0rudE025038 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:53:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:54:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8FC0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:53:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1996848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:53:55 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S0rtDJ004989 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:53:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005052800535401400dl652e>; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:53:54 +0000 Message-ID: <4297C122.5070603@istori.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:53:54 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <4297BD88.2060102@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4297BD88.2060102@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > As you now know, no. But I'm curious about your question. What exactly > does it mean to "have Paypal"? And why would somebody like me ? Practically, it means, "Are you comfortable getting money out of PayPal?" Anybody with email "has" PayPal, but that doesn't mean they'd be happy about receiving money that way. And, of course, does the legitimate site occupy more of your consciousness than PayPal phishing? :-) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:08:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S18bdE026628 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:08:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:08:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065A0A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:08:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1997992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:08:36 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S18aXJ006782 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:08:36 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005052801083501100ns81ue>; Sat, 28 May 2005 01:08:35 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Natalie's grille question Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:08:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > could do a better job than I could do about the other half of her > stovetop > which has a grill instead of two burners. I would assume the rushing sound was some sort of automatic exhaust. Other than that, BTFOM. I've forgotten what it's like to use a real stove. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:11:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1BodE026923 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:11:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:11:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065A028@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:11:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1998491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:11:49 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S1BnNg007270 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:11:49 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2035417wra for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.44.53 with SMTP id r53mr2913995wrr; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:11:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OQvaWlHmCLsFlknHxq5H1zp4o59VIqUCoIgYWZc0/OwGk4Q0+ZifjWAHckYwed9TwC92YZcUXBHswfxZy0/zkX85lzs6Srl8NStWvkNAP2sk70WRMIzAtmrejzpJ7UK7SWnu8H3zceovfj7Bdskm51Jr9FkqJqnuOoHj4j8hyL0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:11:22 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4S1BodE026923 > > > could do a better job than I could do about the other half of her > > stovetop which has a grill instead of two burners. > > I would assume the rushing sound was some sort of automatic exhaust. Other > than that, BTFOM. I've forgotten what it's like to use a real stove. > --Adam Maybe the sound was all the little jets of the grille igniting. It is a gas stove top, right? Hmm. Maybe not. Ours is. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:12:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1CJdE026981 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8FCC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:09:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1998035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:09:34 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S19XGC006932 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:09:33 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528010933.NEMM8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:09:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528010933.LNXF5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:09:33 -0400 Message-ID: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:09:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>As you now know, no. But I'm curious about your question. What exactly >>does it mean to "have Paypal"? And why would somebody like me ? >> >> > >I meant did you have an account with them, similarly to having a credit >card. > >Someone like you would have it because you'd get a gazillion FF miles or >something from it, I dunno. I just thought I'd ask before I wrote out a >check. > > I still don't fully Paypal. I thought it existed for people who sold things but weren't vendors to be able to take credit cards -- like maybe they paid Paypal to be a third party to enable them to sell stuff to people online. I don't get how this is similar to "having a credit card." My very limited experience with Paypal was that it used my credit card -- like how could I have used Paypal if I didn't have a credit-card number to give them? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:12:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1CJdE026980 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8FC36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:02:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1997598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:02:18 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S12I0d005982 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:02:18 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2033758wra for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.54.56 with SMTP id c56mr2889848wra; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:02:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SwQbGP5OnmrLavjXje4poShTiC0RMRIYwDHPey3gFC13iiNTvu0Jmj3N9f6swJ9CRJNH1+XJjxE/uMOO088WxA3DTOdQJZjaoT7uKo3muHpZFpwofWVIiT5+91dzvvhE2vOMONrsNw4VMlClb/TndwoWMLz678/nhp68R1Mqwho= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:02:18 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad In-Reply-To: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4S1CJdE026980 > > Besides, your question prompted > me to ask a question that I hope somebody will answer -- about why > somebody like me would . > -- Natalie Someone like you might have an account at PayPal, where you could spend and receive money, because you bought and sold things on EBay. People like to buy things on EBay from sellers who can accept their money into a PayPal account. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:12:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1CJdE026979 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F8FC70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:09:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1998026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:09:28 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S19Rop006918 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:09:27 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1770631wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.8.8 with SMTP id 8mr2898318wrh; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:09:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ygo8Wd/Xk1uOcM4hHd3xgSGJ5fg7U8iPOrS5rjJwxQzaOTBINK5FvQlYxSTF2O90cMbDFIIvz8ZKDB5NhOK2NIXv1swtgL9GqJvOcxCq3794l8kiXneLzCmD36R5uDjxpy6j9vV0CUdLzxdG+HZi0h/pupw7qhMzevArYJOk82U= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:09:27 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photos In-Reply-To: <4297BEB3.4060403@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> <83db447a05052717016ff68ff3@mail.gmail.com> <4297BEB3.4060403@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4S1CJdE026979 > > > Right now she is enjoying the pictures I back-channeled her of the > >photographer himself. --bonniev > > And they are far more interesting than any pictures of mountains and > stuff! > -- Natalie Poor Clyde. Please don't be insulted Clyde. The rest of us love your pictures of mountains and stuff. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:12:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1CJdE026977 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8FC7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:05:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1997694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:05:12 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S15BHi006224 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:05:11 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528010510.NCYE8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:05:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528010510.LMXS5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:05:10 -0400 Message-ID: <4297C3C2.3090300@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:05:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: 15-20 Minutes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ok, so I decided to call every Hood in Smithville, MS. The first one I called said that her mother-in-law would know the number of Kay and gave me that number. That was the next number I was going to call anyway. So I called it, and a nice woman said that Kay and Buddy had just that minute left their house. She asked her husband what their phone number was, and he gave it. I wrote it down. She said they'd probably be home in about 15 or 20 minutes. The reason it wasn't on switchboard.com is that it's an unlisted number. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:12:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1CJdE026978 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:12:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8FC8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:04:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1997637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:04:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S1408s006077 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:04:00 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2034051wra for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.47.1 with SMTP id u1mr2881938wru; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:04:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m/X5Nwave4UxC8VYEtqHeuwfjbMfpeDy5IQF+QBtgqoUtTLSw9P9pD8B3gqA7ouDETlb2+w8cguI3/mBpaB0hHZNSJ12knHcaWh5VSzE+qucKwyJ2PhUGP4fWCfh4wygsM5OPaM+bbXovGX8dDHzJ6JGbKw79cOs5GAOvbxSUNY= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:04:00 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4S1CJdE026978 Isn't anyone going to answer Natalie's grill question? I'm sure many others could do a better job than I could do about the other half of her stovetop which has a grill instead of two burners. We have the grill attachment for our Jenn-Aire but Clyde never uses it. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:14:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1EJdE027204 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:14:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:14:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8FD40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:14:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1998949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:14:19 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S1EIJk007589 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:14:18 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528011418.NGOR8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:14:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528011418.LPEQ5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:14:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4297C5E6.3020704@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:14:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <4297BD88.2060102@maynor.net> <4297C122.5070603@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <4297C122.5070603@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: >> As you now know, no. But I'm curious about your question. What exactly >> does it mean to "have Paypal"? And why would somebody like me > it>? > > Practically, it means, "Are you comfortable getting money out of > PayPal?" Anybody with email "has" PayPal, but that doesn't mean they'd > be happy about receiving money that way. But why would I be receiving money? (I realize that right now I'm people's donations for Brad, but how often in life does one do that kind of thing?) Iow, I thought that Paypal was for vendors, not for . > And, of course, does the legitimate site occupy more of your > consciousness than PayPal phishing? :-) No, it doesn't. I have no particular reason to think about PayPal. I've used it no more than three times in my life, maybe just two times. One was with you re Evelyn. One, possibly two, on buying a couple of things on Ebay several years ago -- an old medical book that I gave my RRB for xmas and I think I bought one more something on Ebay, though I can't remember what it was -- maybe I just bought that one item. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:35:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1ZddE029393 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:35:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:35:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00659F95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:19:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1999559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:19:51 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S1JouN008615 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:19:50 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528011950.NIXE8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:19:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528011950.LQRG5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:19:50 -0400 Message-ID: <4297C732.3040400@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:19:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photos References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> <83db447a05052717016ff68ff3@mail.gmail.com> <4297BEB3.4060403@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>>Right now she is enjoying the pictures I back-channeled her of the >>>photographer himself. --bonniev >>> >>> >>And they are far more interesting than any pictures of mountains and >>stuff! >>-- Natalie >> >> > > Poor Clyde. Please don't be insulted Clyde. The rest of us love your >pictures of mountains and stuff. > > That should not be considered an insult! I didn't say they were prettier or were better pictures or were more dramatic or any such thing. I said "more interesting." Pictures of scenery can be gorgeous. Pictures of people are more likely to be -- at least to me -- YMMV. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:36:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1aSdE029493 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:36:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:36:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8FD4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:16:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1999164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:16:27 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S1GRtI007874 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:16:27 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005052801162701400evhkse>; Sat, 28 May 2005 01:16:27 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Natalie's Paypal Question Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:16:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I still don't fully Paypal. I thought it existed for people who > sold things but weren't vendors to be able to take credit > cards -- like maybe they paid Paypal to be a third party to enable them > to sell stuff to people online. > > I don't get how this is similar to "having a credit card." My very > limited experience with Paypal was that it used my credit card -- like > how could I have used Paypal if I didn't have a credit-card number to > give them? >From https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/ema/index-outside "Send Money allows you to pay anyone with an email address in 45 countries that accept PayPal. Just enter the recipient's email address and the amount you wish to send. You can pay with a bank card. Common uses for Send Money: * Pay for eBay items * Split a restaurant bill or rent * Send money to your family or friends * Pay for online purchases Use PayPal to send payments in any of these currencies: * Canadian Dollar * Euro * Pound Sterling * U.S. Dollar * Yen * Australian Dollar" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:36:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1aSdE029494 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:36:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:36:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8FD86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:20:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1999598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:20:29 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S1KSo5008716 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:20:28 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528012028.NJEA8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:20:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528012028.LQTX5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:20:28 -0400 Message-ID: <4297C758.4050709@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:20:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > Maybe the sound was all the little jets of the grille igniting. It is a gas >stove top, right? Hmm. Maybe not. Ours is. > > No, it's electric. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:36:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1aSdE029495 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:36:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:36:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8FD63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:16:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1999186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:16:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S1GcWE007896 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:16:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1787211nzo for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.3 with SMTP id s3mr1220954nzc; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:16:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MZLzROOOC9jW9dHqeV+exiEaTrzCjaHATQ5z+hr00ADqKKuLT43/aoU8No55Raf9AC8Z0XRRii6rno9dUuiWqEb7i0ExXIPnc+zQCnDZtEOAqe2D9wYjKR1YWDi29NgeA7ENgO8Xf66C0vbA3R7/oB7PhzmHlakuCBwiUPbXUdI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505271816167aa199@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:16:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4S1GcWE007897 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Or the gas rushing out without igniting. I hope Natalie doesn't smoke when she cooks. On 5/27/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > could do a better job than I could do about the other half of her > > > stovetop which has a grill instead of two burners. > > > > I would assume the rushing sound was some sort of automatic exhaust. Other > > than that, BTFOM. I've forgotten what it's like to use a real stove. > > --Adam > > Maybe the sound was all the little jets of the grille igniting. It is a gas > stove top, right? Hmm. Maybe not. Ours is. > > > -- > --bonniev > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:36:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1aSdE029496 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:36:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:36:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8FD54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:17:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1999224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:17:10 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S1HAI4007961 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:17:10 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528011710.NHRG8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:17:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528011709.LPYH5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:17:09 -0400 Message-ID: <4297C692.5090906@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:17:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > Someone like you might have an account at PayPal, where you could spend >and receive money, because you bought and sold things on EBay. People like >to buy things on EBay from sellers who can accept their money into a PayPal >account. > > Ah so. Iow, if I were into EBay, I might have a reason for having a PayPal account. I still don't really know how it works -- as in how if I sold something on Ebay I would receive money via PayPal, but my curiosity level about it is pretty low. Maybe if I ever get into Ebaying, which seems unlikely since I haven't looked at Ebay in ages now, I will explore Paypal. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 20:55:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1sudE031710 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:54:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:55:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8FEE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:54:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2002123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:54:56 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S1suFx012174 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:54:56 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-79.gwi.net [216.195.167.79]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4S1sp0o059334; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:54:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527214713.01c03260@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:54:46 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: photos In-Reply-To: References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> <83db447a05052717016ff68ff3@mail.gmail.com> <4297BEB3.4060403@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:09 PM 5/27/2005, bonniemaev wrote: > Poor Clyde. Please don't be insulted Clyde. Why should I be insulted? I take photos to please myself, to provide a record that I can refer to in order to relive a moment, a trip, etc. --- and to satisfy my own aesthetic sense. Some people like pictures of bunny rabbits, ducklings, children, and other small creatures; I prefer landscapes, nature, patterns, and light---and how they interact. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 21:00:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S1xsdE032255 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:59:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:00:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8FEF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:59:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2002265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:59:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S1xrRE012505 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:59:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so967112wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.145.15 with SMTP id s15mr1517599wrd; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 18:59:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=uF5ybLpMcWniBPe3/+JR7RwOvLYeqnx+nkZGa+yA+6oWcePAl36THZ9f/lkUEXjGLTyMgWynywd2kRIJYWOfYCOiH74S/1EQtolM4oNFQ5vludp9ctzo87Z4jQQxXw9q7x2xVxt4/VAulZN/bKM1nD0pJIfEBoDN9Dj5wCe6xMQ= Message-ID: <83db447a050527185973fb8866@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:59:53 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4S1xsdE032255 On 5/27/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Isn't anyone going to answer Natalie's grill question? Apparently I missed the question--it must have been embedded in the starch symposium. Anyhow, to my knowledge, all indoor grills, i.e., those that are part of a gas or electric kitchen stove, are set up so that when the grill section is activated, an exhaust fan operates. This is to prevent the inattentive cook from fumigating the house or asphyxiating themselves. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 21:15:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S2EwdE001216 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:14:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:15:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065A2BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:14:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2002876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:14:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S2EviE013687 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:14:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1780523wri for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.22 with SMTP id 22mr2964015wru; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:14:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=peBgIlV7WcHyMPNb5LBGUybbHDbBNZL/NadIgfrpAz/QmbEYeJZlDYG49rcONZ/0FWeizxsehLlUH5lmqiwDaZQ76KNmLz1xKR+cKtfHWzd+JonotEnC1jUBLn/Po4Z5jM6risU0kWLjVMy9kuZ7mbzYyMKZ9FVXIyE6e7tkF+Y= Message-ID: <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:14:57 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4S2EviE013691 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > I still don't fully Paypal. I thought it existed for people who > > sold things but weren't vendors to be able to take credit > > cards -- like maybe they paid Paypal to be a third party to enable them > > to sell stuff to people online. > > > > I don't get how this is similar to "having a credit card." My very > > limited experience with Paypal was that it used my credit card -- like > > how could I have used Paypal if I didn't have a credit-card number to > > give them? They also can use bank accounts, and we've got an isolated one for that purpose. Otherwise, a security crack would endanger whatever is attached. I haven't looked in a long time, but I'm not certain you can get around a credit card or bank account. The advantage would be the recipient would receive the money, but not the credit card information - like Western Union wiring money from station to station. Again, I don't know as I've not done much with it lately - I'm certain someone has more info. They did have one creative way of validating a bank account. You had to providing the bank, a routing number, account number, etc. and they would then deposit two amounts, each less than $1. You would then confirm your account by entering those two values as part of the confirmation process. I used PayPal mostly for collecting old PC games when they weren't as widespread (globally) as they are now (probably eBay ownership helped) and tried to avoid eBay's original "BillPoint" (?). There used to be a service known as "EnergyFlow" who would send money orders practically anywhere in the world and that made it nice for sending money to some of the areas which were a bit out of the way. p p.s. Stay tuned. There's a new service billing itself as a "PayPal killer" by the name "GreenZap". I kept an eye on them for some time until they started to hit the mainstream radar. Use at your own risk. A couple of the principals have a long and storied career with the BBB in several locations and at least one of them had a run-in with the FTC and left several people hanging for > $100k. When the talk about these prominent members got around, a couple of people have stepped in to cover for them. The domain was recently had a name & phone number in Manhattan (which I verified) but the mailbox was in "Ralph's Grocery" in La Jolla, Ca - which had what amounted to a PO Box. They claim they'll be up & running in June. What's been interesting to observe are the web sites dedicated to the discussion & promotion of GreenZap. It appears that for every negative post made, four or five posts are made which sound as though GreenZap had paid them $1k just to post it. My theory is a handful of staff members are avoiding the deletion of those messages and trying to compensate by some good press. They've got a nice MLM setup for people to encourage their friends to enroll. This will definitely be worth popping some corn and watching. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 21:42:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S2gOdE004613 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:42:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 21:42:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065A2E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:42:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2003394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:42:24 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S2gOmH015289 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:42:24 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.228]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528024224.XMKO2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:42:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.228]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528024223.KWQR11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:42:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4297DA8B.90603@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:42:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Talked to Kay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I got Kay, and we talked for about an hour. Brad died of a massive heart attack, judged from the autopsy to have been at about 9 or 10 Thursday night. He was discovered Friday by a friend who went to check on him. She was surprised to find that the newspaper was still outside since bringing in the newspaper was one thing Brad still did. She then found the door unlocked and went in and found him dead on the bathroom floor. He had a serious head injury, but the doctors said that it was a result of a fall after the heart attack -- that he had the heart attack, fell, and hit his head. (The reason for the autopsy was that that is routine in such a circumstance -- a person living alone found with a serious head injury on the bathroom floor.) Kay said that he had severe hardening of the arteries, along with serious emphysema. She said that we would not have recognized him in his last months -- that he had quit eating, was thin as a rail, and was walking with a cane. She said that he kept saying that he was dying and that he seemed to be planning for it -- that he wrote part of his own obituary right after his father died. But he did not make any specific funeral request except to say that Bob Dylan's "Knock, Knock, Knocking on Heaven's Door" would be nice. So they did that. And Kay added Elvis's "Peace in the Valley." I'll write more tomorrow about our conversation, though the above is the gist. I'm feeling majorly down. Life sux. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:10:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3AZdE008085 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:10:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:10:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F8FF7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:36:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2003302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:36:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S2avko014929 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:36:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2051122wra for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.139.7 with SMTP id m7mr2974932wrd; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:36:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PuoLAGgFinqZ3UwI1xdumVCZWpfDM/9tGXKhR2Eg7NUEtKSRi7Fe+sUDbdxGbyPpHx5tAQYN4pDQTYUCn2fK386pIteiTAvUSgNHzepD0zRnbSZzEyxv7llvdOj4L7X8346rlI5f3PpBVRG23L+M78CcS6tg16VwtkkfTLLdZcg= Message-ID: <4622719505052719365461d7c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:36:56 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pay-Pal and Brad In-Reply-To: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4S2avko014930 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > would have no doubt wanted to honor him via that any old town. But > Tupelo is an especially good little town. In spite of its being tainted > by the fact that that "moral majority" idiot whose name I can't remember > lives there, it is overall a progressive town. I've never been in the > library there, but I can say with a good bit of confidence that it is a > place where your money will be well spent. As a matter of trivia: it's where Elvis and his twin brother were born. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:10:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3AZdE008086 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:10:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:10:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F8FF6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:38:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2003347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:38:33 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S2cW7W015027 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:38:33 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so606614rnf for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.75.4 with SMTP id x4mr1052159rna; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.209.60 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 19:38:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=abzfs/HHl6hB65wl2nGmIartxjHjToW2PZUG5X+raoHfIjUYEZijOhkdTOChrbzaIR7Rbh51X4xCfuW2+lpN74ksWBKFfJ8aOVytiItR0SPGU44TX3U5SoVRm4i+w9CUk2+85f4eYn4EuncimMwgbIVaq9n3pvworTAoD4gyReQ= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:38:32 -0400 From: meeber Reply-To: meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: one less wildcat fan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4S2cX7W015028 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Damn that guy for beating the rest of us through the gate and leaving this side of things duller for his absence. No fucking sense of decorum whatsoever, which is what you'd expect from a Wildcat fan. Here's a Brad-post from 1995. Clyde, thanks for forwarding me Espen's message. marty Brad Grissom Nov 22 1995, 3:00 am show options Newsgroups: bit.listserv.words-l From: Brad Grissom - Find messages by this author Date: 1995/11/22 Subject: Re: Kierkegaard State? Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse >The Louisville Courier-Journal published its college basketball preview >this week. Regarding the strength of the University of Kentucky bench, >the article said: "UK is deeper than Kierkegaard." I have it on good >authority that the reference desks of the UK libraries were inundated >with calls from Wildcat fans wanting to know where Kierkegaard U. is >located, which conference it plays in, and how it was rated in the >pre-season polls. Over to you, Brad. The Kierkegaard squad is in The Continental League. They played Kentucky tough during our swing through Europe this summer. Great playmakers in little Johannes Climacus and his brother, Anti-Climacus. Pure shooting guards in Victor Eremita and Nicolaus Notabene. On the wings, Constantin Constantius and Johannes de Silentio match up well against any US collegian you care to name. A slow but intimidating man in the middle, Vigilius Haufniensis. Coming off the bench at small forward or big guard, always a threat to make the big play -- Hilarius Bogbinder. brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:11:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3BFdE008145 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:11:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:11:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F90178@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:11:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:11:15 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S3BFtc018356 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:11:15 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.115]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528031115.PKUZ2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:11:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.115]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528031114.JODR29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:11:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4297E14F.8050205@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:11:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cold Black Cloud Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was going to log off and go to bed, but instead I'm sitting here listening on my computer to "Knock, Knock, Knocking on Heaven's Door" and thinking about Brad's cold, black cloud. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:21:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3LGdE009095 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:21:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:21:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F901E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:21:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:21:15 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S3LF2w019012 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:21:15 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.115]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528032114.PMUD2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:21:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.115]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528032114.JPBU29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:21:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:21:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >Isn't anyone going to answer Natalie's grill question? I'm sure many others >could do a better job than I could do about the other half of her stovetop >which has a grill instead of two burners. We have the grill attachment for >our Jenn-Aire but Clyde never uses it. > > Mine isn't an attachment. It's just what's there. I have two burners, one large and one small, on the right (the right when facing it from the sink), and I have that area to the left that has a grill top and that seems to have two elements under it and that has two knobs sitting there looking like normal burner knobs. But turning one on results in a roarind sound, not a sound I associate with stove-top burners. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:24:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3NudE009279 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:23:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:24:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F901D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:23:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:23:56 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S3NtxJ019110 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:23:55 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.115]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528032355.PNHJ2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:23:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.115]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528032355.JPJK29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:23:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4297E448.2000605@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:23:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>From https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/ema/index-outside > >"Send Money allows you to pay anyone with an email address in 45 countries >that accept PayPal. > > So is PayPal doing this as a community service? Surely it's making money somehow. And how does the money arrive if you are paid via PayPal? Does money spit out of your computer, or what? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:37:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3aldE010492 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:36:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:37:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065A460@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:31:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:31:09 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S3V9x1019545 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:31:09 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.115]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528033108.POVB2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:31:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.115]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528033108.JQBX29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:31:08 -0400 Message-ID: <4297E5F9.5050407@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:31:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> <83db447a050527185973fb8866@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050527185973fb8866@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >Anyhow, to my knowledge, all indoor grills, i.e., those that are >part of a gas or electric kitchen stove, are set up so that when the grill >section is activated, an exhaust fan operates. This is to prevent the >inattentive cook from fumigating the house or asphyxiating themselves. > > Why is that side of the big black thing in the middle of my kitchen different from the other side? Iow, why does an exhaust fan not operate when I warm a can of English peas in a pot on a burner? My basic question is about how the two ordinary-looking and ordinary-acting burners differ from that other side with the grill over the whole area and with knobs that are the same as those for the ordinary burners. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:37:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3aldE010491 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:36:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:37:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065A45C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:26:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:26:46 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S3Qk8E019300 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:26:46 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.115]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528032646.PNXS2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:26:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.115]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528032645.JPRF29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:26:45 -0400 Message-ID: <4297E4F2.7050209@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:26:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photos References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> <83db447a05052717016ff68ff3@mail.gmail.com> <4297BEB3.4060403@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050527214713.01c03260@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527214713.01c03260@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Poor Clyde. Please don't be insulted Clyde. > > Why should I be insulted? I take photos to please myself, to provide a > record that I can refer to in order to relive a moment, a trip, etc. --- > and to satisfy my own aesthetic sense. Some people like pictures of > bunny > rabbits, ducklings, children, and other small creatures; I prefer > landscapes, nature, patterns, and light---and how they interact. I am happy to hear that you were not insulted since I think your pictures are gorgeous. They're the kind that show up in magazines like National Geographic, only better than that. It's just that I personally look with more interest at pictures of people. Different strokes and all that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:49:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3n0dE011919 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:49:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:49:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F90210@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:44:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:44:10 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S3i9cD020220 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:44:09 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.115]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528034409.PRUY2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:44:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.115]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528034409.JRLA29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:44:09 -0400 Message-ID: <4297E906.1000804@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:44:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pay-Pal and Brad References: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> <4622719505052719365461d7c6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505052719365461d7c6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: >As a matter of trivia: it's where Elvis and his twin brother were born. > > Well, yeah. I didn't think to mention that when talking about Tupelo, but it is indeed the place. Elvis spent his first thirteen years in Tupelo. Quay Camp, my neighbor from when I moved to Nash Street in '83 until she died (can't remember the date) and the mother of the person who owns most of that neighborhood and manages my rental house, was Elvis's music teacher in either late elementary school or early junior high. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:49:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3n0dE011916 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:49:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:49:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F901B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:38:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:38:59 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S3cxa3019970 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:38:59 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.47.115]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528033859.PQOH2732.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:38:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.47.115]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528033858.JQUR29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:38:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:38:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton wrote: > The advantage would be the >recipient would receive the money, but not the credit card information >- like Western Union wiring money from station to station. > > But nobody has answered yet my basic question: How, e.g., does Pete have Marcia's money? Like how is the money Marcia sent via PayPal now Pete's? Did it show up in his bank account automatically? Did it leap out of his computer? Or what? >They did have one creative way of validating a bank account. You had >to providing the bank, a routing number, account number, etc. and they >would then deposit two amounts, each less than $1. You would then >confirm your account by entering those two values as part of the >confirmation process. > > Ah. So you're saying that PayPal works by automatically depositing money into a bank account? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:49:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3n0dE011920 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:49:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:49:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F90202@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:47:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:47:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S3lfU4020420 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:47:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1821476nzo for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr1225879nzu; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:47:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nEQ+21/gasji8PbQBqrpTxUVTnUFuHCtXcSuL5+lRLXyncY7KD0MggWqsDubSZK7yZR6Ln06rZxXbv0W5I2gHpLCYreQYmUH+Zpzc6XUikMK5hB9rgX1aa4IJHGcFJAI9k+F8CKHK9yP6dqWfSWNvK0dO7gw3H10w66nhnibP5M= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052720472a11e074@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:47:41 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question In-Reply-To: <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4S3lfU4020421 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > But nobody has answered yet my basic question: How, e.g., does Pete > have Marcia's money? Like how is the money Marcia sent via PayPal now > Pete's? Did it show up in his bank account automatically? It showed up in his PayPal account, where it can stay (and from where he can spend it), or he can have it moved into his bank account. > Ah. So you're saying that PayPal works by automatically depositing > money into a bank account? No. It deposits Marcia's money into Pete's PayPal account. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:52:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3q6dE012227 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:52:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:52:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9020E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:52:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:52:05 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S3q3bV020893 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:52:04 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4S3pvrB026244 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:52:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:51:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question In-Reply-To: <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 27 May 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > But nobody has answered yet my basic question: How, e.g., does Pete > have Marcia's money? Like how is the money Marcia sent via PayPal now > Pete's? Did it show up in his bank account automatically? Did it leap > out of his computer? Or what? It presumably went into Pete's PayPal account, which he could then use to buy things using PayPal, or transfer into his bank account. I believe PayPal became considerably more reliable when Ebay bought it. > Ah. So you're saying that PayPal works by automatically depositing > money into a bank account? No. I have two accounts with PayPal, and at least one of them has some money in it. If need be, I can transfer money from the PayPal account into the associated bank account. Or, I can make a PayPal purchase, and if the balance in my PayPal account doesn't cover it, the remainder is sucked out of the associated bank account. Well, technically, both of them are free credit union accounts, rather than "bank" accounts. Making payments is free for the payor. Transfering money from PayPal account into your bank account is also free. Receiving money may still be free within low limits, if you have a personal account. Business accounts pay a percentage on all incoming money. Both of my PayPal account are business accounts. Slightly more detail: I have bought hundreds of books on Ebay, and in recent years, if the seller does not accept PayPal, it has to be pretty wonderful and cheap to induce me to bid. Writing and mailing checks is enormously more hassle. The other PayPal account is associated with my campaign committee (the web site continues at KestenbaumCampaign.com). Some of y'all used PayPal to make donations or buy t-shirts from my campaign. Now that I have a "real" (CPA) campaign committee treasurer, however, I have given her the PayPal account password, and presumably she will manage the account from now on. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 22:56:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S3undE012770 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:56:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 22:56:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F901E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:56:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:56:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4S3klUu020356 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:46:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 18384 invoked by uid 1003); 28 May 2005 03:46:47 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:46:47 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: one less wildcat fan Message-ID: <20050528034647.GA17800@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 10:38:32PM -0400, meeber wrote: > Damn that guy for beating the rest of us through the gate and leaving > this side of things duller for his absence. No fucking sense of > decorum whatsoever, which is what you'd expect from a Wildcat fan. True ... decorum was a foreign word to him ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 23:24:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S4OddE016034 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:24:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:24:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065A5A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 0:24:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:23:22 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4S3vI3o021356 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:57:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 22930 invoked by uid 1003); 28 May 2005 03:57:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:57:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question Message-ID: <20050528035717.GB17800@words-l.org> References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 10:38:55PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Ah. So you're saying that PayPal works by automatically depositing > money into a bank account? Yes, it does. Now, in case you perceive the need to express the numerous thoughts that spring well-nigh unbidden to the mind-- they have all been epxressed before. And yet, people keep using it. And of course, some defend it rabidly, and an interesting minority is moved to fury, as if questioning paypal negates their entire way of life. However, enough people bitch about it too. I have a need for paypal now, and I am thinking of opening the lowest-fee account with a large bank. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 23:38:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S4cPdE017619 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:38:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:38:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065A67F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 0:38:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2011931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:38:25 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S4cM9M025157 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:38:23 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AAF5725220B09 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c5633f$0a033900$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Mystery Solved Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:38:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4S4cPdE017619 I had correspondence with the man who wrote to me about my 1999 post. He found it when he googled for hip surgery . . and now it comes back to me that I did participate briefly on a list where people exchanged medical info. So it wasn't a words-l post after all. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri May 27 23:45:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S4jRdE018341 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:45:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:45:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F903C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 0:45:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2011899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:45:27 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S4ZQJa024894 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:35:27 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j4S4ZQTA003574 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 00:35:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200505280435.j4S4ZQTA003574@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Brad Grissom Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I found out yesterday that Brad died last week. This email went out via >our library's list. I had not talked with Brad in several months, and >have lost touch with mutual friends so I don't have any additional >details other than what is in the obituary linked below. Like the rest of us, I, too am saddened at his passing. I met him only once at the Clambake and was glad I'd thought to bring all the beer we had in the house with me (not much as I recall) --- everyone present had forgotten about the blue laws that forbade buying beer on Sunday in MA or RI. I was glad to be able to share what little I had with Brad. Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 00:36:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S5ZtdE024600 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:35:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:36:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F90477@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 1:35:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2013641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 01:35:55 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S5Zq9D029338 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 01:35:52 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9043B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 1:35:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200505280535.j4S5Zq9D029338@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 01:35:52 -0400 From: Neal Traven Subject: Re: Cold Black Cloud To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 27 May 2005 22:11:11 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I was going to log off and go to bed, but instead I'm sitting here >listening on my computer to "Knock, Knock, Knocking on Heaven's Door" >and thinking about Brad's cold, black cloud. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >From your description, it seems to me that Brad wasn't so much preparing for the end as he was withdrawing deeply into himself. Getting to the point, it seems, that life and death weren't really at issue. Maybe I'm overanalyzing, but I recall that someone characterized him as an "observer" (I agree with that). With the loss of his parents, following his departure from the UK library, it appears that he'd even lost interest in observation. Brad's last words-l post, as best I can tell, was on September 5 of last year. His closing paragraph was: >I realized I've been fooling around here since 1991 or so, and >why should I deny myself the pleasure (and the work too) of >participating. So here I am. Tell me what's new, and who I >should watch out for. Several wordslers replied enthusiastically over the next day or so, but Brad didn't reply on the list. ************************************ Knockin' on Heaven's Door Mama, take this badge off of me I can't use it anymore. It's gettin' dark, too dark for me to see I feel like I'm knockin' on heaven's door. Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door Mama, put my guns in the ground I can't shoot them anymore. That long black cloud is comin' down I feel like I'm knockin' on heaven's door. Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door ******************************************* http://bobdylan.com/songs/knockin.html (from the soundtrack of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, 1973) Last performed by Dylan on August 10, 2003 (sitting in with Tom Petty's band), and May 13, 2003 with his own group. neal, remembering From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 01:16:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S6GSdE029227 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 01:16:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 01:16:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9057F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 2:16:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2015958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 02:16:28 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S6GQrj000709 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 02:16:27 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4S6GPex020491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:16:25 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j4S6GPUT020489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:16:25 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:16:25 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For 'lan Message-ID: <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Anyone here ever get a camera ticket? = = Amy The Dutch only do traffic patrol by camera, so all the tickets we've gotten here are from a camera. If the camera is on (which most of them are usually not), then you can get a speeding ticket for going 109 in a 100 zone. They build it up something like 4% error and the ticket is for 105. They also do red light cameras, and I got zapped twice once going through two lights that were linked together and both had temporary cameras. The lights were just seconds apart (which is why they are linked together). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 02:11:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S7B5dE002580 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 02:11:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 02:11:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F905D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 3:01:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2016610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 03:01:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S7122k003043 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 03:01:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so742898nzp for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.10.5 with SMTP id 5mr1367642nzj; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.4.11 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 00:01:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sh2+fjelZw0B2lDJ6Kta1/AnHHXRn8AdAP066WwWm4a29bxDxmo1I3utUHOFAd6qaImKPUwX8fWxqJvfkpMtvoZ+b3uG13yUelJZ+Gv7NmZdWe6nVgVppUgKKJf2v6X7MnpVEcY5xhyvzok0ZQYLR/1/YNAnc1TdtaUkYGGw69Y= Message-ID: <3c1d5b5005052800014529202d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:01:02 +0200 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photos In-Reply-To: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4S7122k003044 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very good photos! We are leaving now for an overnight trip (only 15 nautical miles or so, but with 5 knots cruising speed, it will be about three hours net sailing) to an island further south in the Oslo fjord. Nothing will be as spectacular as what you have seen and photographed from Bergen and the Hurtigruta, but there may be GIFFs. And I hope to pick and grill some fresh mussels. DSAI. Espen On 5/27/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > For those of you who have a lot of time on your hands, the photos of our > recent Norwegian Coastal Voyage (Hurtigruten) are now on my Webshots page at > www.tinyurl.com/r2o7 under Hurtigruten 2005. > There are three volumes. Some will note similar photos from the 2004 voyage. > That's why we went back---to see the area with snow. > There are some parts of the collection that are different. For example, the > Lyng Alps, which didn't impress me all that much in the autumn were > incredible with their snow cover---especially with the lighting and clouds > that existed. > clyde > , > -- Espen S. Ore Oslo, Norway From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 04:54:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4S9srdE025206 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 04:54:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 04:54:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F90E5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 5:34:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2032309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:34:52 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4S9Yq3a016086 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:34:52 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2137410wra for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 02:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.3 with SMTP id l3mr3242618wrd; Sat, 28 May 2005 02:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 02:34:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZBpBjgn8U6poBKqI25IqBpSduAOgEKcf0cVPSycG7WDCox99+WWo6gMPnBKvixiYuOEymJZD/uUggsd6OAjyMBARHFT7VGLl4pKXt6KIg4hUfAzvMYYb7ihAkNnBSTk/vGyQQl3wfX+yzXpROfWYCZBAZ5EZzQ0cwKdeLsTJK8M= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 05:34:52 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4S9srdE025206 > > > We have the grill attachment for > >our Jenn-Aire but Clyde never uses it. > > Mine isn't an attachment. It's just what's there. I have two burners, > one large and one small, on the right (the right when facing it from the > sink), and I have that area to the left that has a grill top and that > seems to have two elements under it and that has two knobs sitting there > looking like normal burner knobs. -- Natalie > When our grill insert is in place, you wouldn't know, just my looking at it, that it was an attachment or that it could be replaced by two regular burners. We do have a fan switch near the burner knobs that can be turned on at any time. The fan is a downdraft fan rather than an overhead hood. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:13:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SADpdE027246 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:13:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:13:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F910B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 6:13:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2036514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:13:50 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SADokE019826 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:13:50 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21084159 for multiple; Sat, 28 May 2005 03:33:44 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.224.49]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 28 May 2005 03:14:11 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 04:13:50 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1504985826.20050528041350@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Ithink I may live MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 210, in=74517, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Had the TT revised early Monday morning. And now past most of the pain and hassles, I think. Still havepain pump and drains, but the catheter is gone and I'm still wearing the tight "panty girdle". Thisis first day I've felt fairly sane and together. Naturall I've gained weight due to all the fluids, both IV on monday and all the ones I'be been pouring in since then. But this too shall pass and if all goes well I'll be back in the gym before toooo long. Now I'm gonna skim thru the email of 400 or so to see if there's anything worth readin....not likely but ya never know. damn i hate typing on laptop on lap board while sitting in recliner..... dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:16:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SAFxdE027616 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:16:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:16:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065B1D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 6:15:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2036723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:15:58 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SAFvf1020049 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:15:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21084184 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 03:35:52 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.224.49]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 28 May 2005 03:16:20 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 04:15:59 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1695221248.20050528041559@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: A Card Question In-Reply-To: <42906E01.2050708@maynor.net> References: <428FB6ED.7070904@maynor.net> <46227195050521220416c2c9f9@mail.gmail.com> <42906E01.2050708@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 210, in=74518, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/22/2005, 5:33 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Perhaps I should NM> dig out the book and NM> read about them sometime. Never any harm in RTFM, is there? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 05:56:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SAtudE031745 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:56:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:56:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F91398@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 6:55:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2039126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:55:56 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SAZNkr021924 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:35:23 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4SAZK6g029098 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:35:21 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 06:35:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: commerical banks Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar: I have a need for paypal now, and I am thinking of opening the lowest-fee account with a large bank. I will have to open an account with a commercial bank today or Tuesday. The Spanish university wants to pay me by bank transfer but is unwilling to go throught the very slight complication of transferring to a credit untion through another bank - i.e., transferring to Bank A, Acct A, acct no. A for immediate transfer to my credit union, to my account and my account number. But at least I will receive payment and travel reimbursement just as soon as I get the new acount number to a sec'y in Barcelona. And then I will connect my paypal acct (useful only on ebay, so far as I am concerned, but very useful there) to the commercial account. I have used a commercial account in the past for trqansfers from another country - Japan, most recently. Tushar, you can probably find a no-service fee bank - I will use one located here - there are several. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 06:53:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SBrMdE007145 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:53:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:53:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9141B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 7:53:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2042223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:53:21 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SBrLdE019179 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:53:21 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.180]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528115321.UNRN2164.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:53:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.180]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528115320.LTBB13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:53:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42985BA7.2070606@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 06:53:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > money in it. If need be, I can transfer money from the PayPal account > into the associated bank account. Or, I can make a PayPal purchase, and > if the balance in my PayPal account doesn't cover it, the remainder is > sucked out of the associated bank account. So to open a PayPal account you have to give PayPal a regular bank account number and the bank routing number? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 06:59:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SBx7dE007966 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:59:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 06:59:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F91421@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 7:59:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2042271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:59:07 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SBx6vH019500 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:59:06 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.180]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528115906.UPDX2164.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:59:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.180]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528115906.LTRO13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:59:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42985D07.3080208@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 06:59:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> <20050528035717.GB17800@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050528035717.GB17800@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>Ah. So you're saying that PayPal works by automatically depositing >>money into a bank account? >> >> >Yes, it does. Now, in case you perceive the need to express the >numerous thoughts that spring well-nigh unbidden to the mind-- >they have all been epxressed before. And yet, people keep using > > No particular thoughts about it spring to my mind. PayPal sounds like what I would call an "internet bank." Presumably it makes money by using people's money, just as a regular bank does. >I have a need for paypal now, and I am thinking of opening the >lowest-fee account with a large bank. > > You mean opening a special bank account just to use in association with PayPal? Why not use your existing bank account? Is PayPal ? I would not want a bank account that charged a fee. I expect the bank to pay me for having the account there, not vice versa (though these days one is not likely to get rich from the interest paid on checking accounts). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:07:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SC6vdE009082 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:06:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:07:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065B387@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:06:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2042373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:06:50 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SC6o99020199 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:06:50 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.180]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528120650.UQRO2164.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:06:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.180]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528120649.LUOX13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:06:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 07:06:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I will have to open an account with a commercial bank today or Tuesday. > > What's a non-commercial bank? >The Spanish university wants to pay me by bank transfer but is unwilling >to go throught the very slight complication of transferring to a credit >untion through another bank - i.e., transferring to Bank A, Acct A, acct >no. A for immediate transfer to my credit union, to my account and my >account number. > > What exactly is a credit union? I've of course heard of them. I used to pass one regularly on my way to Walmart in Starkville, but I didn't know anybody who used it. It looked like a regular bank but was named the Somethingorother Credit Union. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:12:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCCadE009821 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:12:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:12:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F91414@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:03:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2042332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:03:24 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SC3O4B019947 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:03:24 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.180]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528120324.UQAL2164.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:03:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.180]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528120324.LUES13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:03:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42985E09.2000706@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 07:03:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ithink I may live References: <1504985826.20050528041350@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1504985826.20050528041350@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Had the TT revised early Monday morning. And now past most of the > > The TT? What does that mean? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:12:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCCadE009817 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:12:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:12:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F913D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:02:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2042315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:02:36 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SC2a3d019903 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:02:36 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.180]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528120236.UPWE2164.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:02:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.180]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528120235.LUCF13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:02:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42985DD8.6050109@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 07:02:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >When our grill insert is in place, you wouldn't know, just my looking at it, >that it was an attachment or that it could be replaced by two regular >burners. We do have a fan switch near the burner knobs that can be turned on >at any time. The fan is a downdraft fan rather than an overhead hood. > > I wonder whether mine could be replaced by regular burners. Although I rarely need more than the two burners I have, I might have occasional need of more than two. And that grill thing is useless, as far as I'm concerned. I have no idea what I might use it for. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:13:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCCadE009819 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:12:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:13:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9141A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:08:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2042395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:08:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SC85tI020281 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:08:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2166358wra for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.148.12 with SMTP id v12mr3350546wrd; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:08:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QpMqkM39XMFfRI+RTYE+soQhmEcQx4zSkDzkLOrAVEjdEnWXGU3tJLopV1kwTu1MByOVZBJ3SDCOHD6z0lYV7VTob+PFSrUCn2GbUFzGccfmm0qYTbhegIuQX/FwKTcCSBX4hWxW7H5AbAJTpVZxJQchXaojkGc43XgdDnVofiU= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:08:04 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: <42985DD8.6050109@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> <42985DD8.6050109@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4SCCadE009819 > > I wonder whether mine could be replaced by regular burners. Although I > rarely need more than the two burners I have, I might have occasional > need of more than two. And that grill thing is useless, as far as I'm > concerned. I have no idea what I might use it for. -- Natalie > I think you should look into that. What brand it is? You could google on the brand and see if you see yours. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:13:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCCadE009823 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:12:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:13:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F913EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:12:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2042487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:12:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SCC4fx020558 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:12:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2167054wra for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.53.44 with SMTP id b44mr1020255wra; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:12:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=piZLxABwlvsJDtzZz8O5RkgODkzpDHfKjEqAbo95mh8J0oU6+0rRQfjrYDLUA7nSljyED0xpsztr9ONK3uBpjINtee2Q+khknMO2sMB7NdQzMy/xFrFHKa8LeRaCmMlLDuV3IMeRgB93g37v3V+Pcc+FHTrM+icRanD13WLVzvg= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:12:04 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks In-Reply-To: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4SCCadE009823 > > What exactly is a credit union? I've of course heard of them. I used > to pass one regularly on my way to Walmart in Starkville, but I didn't > know anybody who used it. It looked like a regular bank but was named > the Somethingorother Credit Union. -- Natalie > "A credit union is a cooperative financial institution, owned and controlled by the people who use its services. These people are members. Credit unions serve groups that share something in common, such as where they work, live, or go to church. Credit unions are not-for-profit, and exist to provide a safe, convenient place for members to save money and to get loans at reasonable rates." We got all our car loans, until this most recent one, from the Tennessee Valley Authority Credit Union. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:13:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCDldE009947 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:13:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:13:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9142D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:13:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2042542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:13:47 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SCDkqx020666 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:13:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2167305wra for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.91.3 with SMTP id o3mr3327788wrb; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:13:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VDc4+radilzda+v9cXcplhSMcvGzmxl9cHM0Ks2gDMr0yS3GNgcMPS4Aeql4T9Q0wVap97EMvO4MFCJGAuPh6Gjp53P5Uf9OvVnt87eMlHFeugu8kOMHUwa9G7YoLfThaKA0IqXOx/iS0/eKUxVnl6unaoUkoxdZ+D79CjqWM9A= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:13:46 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4SCDldE009947 "What makes a credit union different from a bank or savings & loan? Like credit unions, these financial institutions accept deposits and make loans--but unlike credit unions, they are in business to make a profit. Banks and savings & loans are owned by groups of stockholders whose interests include earning a healthy return on their investments." From http://www.creditunion.coop/what_is_a_cu.html -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:23:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCN5dE011023 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:23:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:23:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F914C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:23:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2043664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:23:05 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SCN5DE021463 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:23:05 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4SCN4vP005657 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:23:04 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4SCMA6C019517 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:22:12 -0400 Message-ID: <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> Subject: Re: Re: For 'lan Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:22:11 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "steph" > = Anyone here ever get a camera ticket? > = > = Amy > > The Dutch only do traffic patrol by camera, so all the tickets we've > gotten here are from a camera. If the camera is on (which most of them > are usually not), then you can get a speeding ticket for going 109 in a > 100 zone. They build it up something like 4% error and the ticket is > for 105. They also do red light cameras, and I got zapped twice once > going > through two lights that were linked together and both had temporary > cameras. The lights were just seconds apart (which is why they are > linked together). I think as a teenager, that I would have enjoyed destroying such cameras. Nope... I KNOW I would have. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:25:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCPLdE011433 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:25:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:25:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F914B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:25:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2043943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:25:21 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SCPLNi021665 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:25:21 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.180]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528122521.UUXM2164.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:25:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.180]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528122520.LWUX13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:25:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42986329.4030702@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 07:25:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> <42985DD8.6050109@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >I think you should look into that. What brand it is? You could google on the >brand and see if you see yours. > > It's a Jenn-Air. I googled and found this one that I think it is: http://www.jennair.com/ja/products/prod_detail.jsp?model=JED8130ADW&cs=0&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:29:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCT4dE011947 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:29:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:29:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F91547@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:29:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2044473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:03 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SCT3xm022121 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:03 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.175.180]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528122903.UVTS2164.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.175.180]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528122903.LXHI13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:03 -0400 Message-ID: <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 07:29:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >"What makes a credit union different from a bank or savings & loan? Like >credit unions, these financial institutions accept deposits and make >loans--but unlike credit unions, they are in business to make a profit. >Banks and savings & loans are owned by groups of stockholders whose >interests include earning a healthy return on their investments." > From >http://www.creditunion.coop/what_is_a_cu.html > > I understand the principle here -- as in what is being said about the different motives of the two entities. But I don't understand the difference from the pov of the . If I used a credit union instead of a regular bank, would I be getting higher interest on my checking account? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:30:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCTldE012033 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:29:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:30:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F91540@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:29:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2044563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:45 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SCTj5Q022203 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:45 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-73.gwi.net [216.195.167.73]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4SCTajq085821; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050528082521.01bfb9d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:27:53 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: <4297E5F9.5050407@maynor.net> References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> <83db447a050527185973fb8866@mail.gmail.com> <4297E5F9.5050407@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:31 PM 5/27/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Why is that side of the big black thing in the middle of my kitchen >different from the other side? Iow, why does an exhaust fan not operate >when I warm a can of English peas in a pot on a burner? Because you don't necessarily need an exhaust fan for boiling water, heating a can of veggies or soup, etc. Presumably you have a switch on the stove, somewhere, that operates the exhaust fan in the event you are searing meat or fish, simmering something highly aromatic, etc. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:30:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCTndE012039 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:29:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:30:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F91508@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:29:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2044587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:48 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SCTmgj022222 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:48 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-73.gwi.net [216.195.167.73]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4SCTajr085821; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050528082824.01bd5220@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:29:28 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> <42985DD8.6050109@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:08 AM 5/28/2005, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > I wonder whether mine could be replaced by regular burners. Although I > > rarely need more than the two burners I have, I might have occasional > > need of more than two. And that grill thing is useless, as far as I'm > > concerned. I have no idea what I might use it for. -- Natalie That's why my grill insert sits in the basement. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:36:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCZsdE012833 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:35:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:36:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F915B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:35:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2045489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:35:53 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SCZrTT022960 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:35:53 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-73.gwi.net [216.195.167.73]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4SCZn0o096396; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:35:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050528083156.01c054e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:35:47 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: <42986329.4030702@maynor.net> References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> <42985DD8.6050109@maynor.net> <42986329.4030702@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:25 AM 5/28/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniemaev wrote: > >>I think you should look into that. What brand it is? You could google on the >>brand and see if you see yours. >> >It's a Jenn-Air. I googled and found this one that I think it is: Then I would be very surprised if you couldn't get standard burners for the left side. The standard Jenn-Airs (which yours very like is) accept a grill or a griddle in addition to burners. Look around your place---the burners might be there. When we bought this place (with the yucky electric Jenn-Air), we got both the left-side burners and the grill; when I upgraded to a gas model, same thing. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:36:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCandE012933 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:36:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:36:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F91583@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:36:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2045535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:36:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SCamFG023014 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:36:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1879019wri for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.49.26 with SMTP id w26mr3393165wrw; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:36:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cfN2/8OYK1ACLfauCLOlrcCV7HSh/aJdC8TkqWxTJrpSU1y0H03Bg/fMtjwoV7dbCkQHMkUjeTrpSADn6mmiB1jXLPb7ijIIKHkFYPr/2hT+9/iv77UnDAkP/ps66TILG+xFlL4HF7HUaLewo5hFwTA9rqISQu0DzonshrfysAw= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:36:48 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks In-Reply-To: <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4SCandE012933 > > I understand the principle here -- as in what is being said about the > different motives of the two entities. But I don't understand the > difference from the pov of the . If I used a credit union instead > of a regular bank, would I be getting higher interest on my checking > account? -- Natalie > You might. You'd have to shop around. I know we certainly got a better deal on car loans. But, of course, you don't need a car loan and you don't really understand why anyway would, after perhaps their first car purchase, because they would surely then save up money to buy their next car when the present car needed to be replaced. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 07:43:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SCgrdE013377 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:42:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:43:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065B4D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 8:32:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2045222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:32:52 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SCWqq2022628 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:32:52 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1878537wri for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.27.62 with SMTP id a62mr3396743wra; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 05:32:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FEiskpUgX2o06CkB+0YUmLOP2N14F5MdqyDSIYYcTIr4qms7bhjWdvPNM+sjdr4K95f8EPL6rFRev5jUBDYgZFbbU5Q7bGJt1eCHHwLcp7Vdo7zV08EUmS8jClHo3OtmSqgAm9BcufpBPcSpZbuMsimQ0C0zeHATlvVxm7mORl4= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 08:32:52 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: <42986329.4030702@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> <42985DD8.6050109@maynor.net> <42986329.4030702@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4SCgrdE013377 > > It's a Jenn-Air. I googled and found this one that I think it is: > -- Natalie Then you can very definitely get a two-burner insert instead of that grill insert. Sears can fix you up properly. They carry Jenn-Air. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 08:33:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SDX5dE020216 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:33:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:33:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F91B47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 9:33:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2056022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 09:33:04 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SDX4Jd028625 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 09:33:04 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4SDX0RM010004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 09:33:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:33:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question In-Reply-To: <42985BA7.2070606@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> <42985BA7.2070606@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 28 May 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > So to open a PayPal account you have to give PayPal a regular bank > account number and the bank routing number? Strictly speaking, no. That part is optional. But I found it very convenient to connect the PayPal account to a credit union account, so as to facilitate moving money between the online world and the tangible cash world. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:24:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SEOEdE025407 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 09:24:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 09:24:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F91DC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:24:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2059759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:24:14 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4SEEEr2032336 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:14:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 23769 invoked by uid 1003); 28 May 2005 14:14:13 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:14:13 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question Message-ID: <20050528141413.GA11267@words-l.org> References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> <42985BA7.2070606@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 09:33:00AM -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > On Sat, 28 May 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >So to open a PayPal account you have to give PayPal a regular bank > >account number and the bank routing number? > > Strictly speaking, no. That part is optional. But I found it very > convenient to connect the PayPal account to a credit union account, so as > to facilitate moving money between the online world and the tangible cash > world. Since I am getting hypnotized watching this particular roundabout, allow me to add that if you choose the "option" of not giving them a bank account number, you can ask them to write you a check. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 09:55:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SEsvdE028716 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 09:54:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 09:55:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F91F36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:44:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2063430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:44:56 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SEiuOH002884 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:44:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F91F22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:44:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200505281444.j4SEiuOH002884@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:44:56 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: For 'lan To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 28 May 2005 08:16:25 +0200, steph wrote: >= >= Anyone here ever get a camera ticket? >= >= Amy > >The Dutch only do traffic patrol by camera, so all the tickets we've >gotten here are from a camera. If the camera is on (which most of them >are usually not), then you can get a speeding ticket for going 109 in a >100 zone. They build it up something like 4% error and the ticket is >for 105. They also do red light cameras, and I got zapped twice once going >through two lights that were linked together and both had temporary >cameras. The lights were just seconds apart (which is why they are >linked together). Aha. Interesting. I think the cams are on the increase in the states. We have RLC's here at "selected locations" in the Valley. I got popped for red light (going 20 mph) this past December. I was in a part of town I'm not usually in during my daily travels (returning from Scottsdale one day and taking a shortcut to John's liberry in time to get him to take me to lunch). I think what happened is that I was in slow traffic, wound up in the intersection and got the H out of the way as soon as I could. It was not a memorable event. Anyway. I opted for AZ traffic school (outsourced to AAA), and it wasn't all that bad for traffic school (although it was my first experience). People say that here it's a rite of passage. One thing I learned was this: U.S. Cities With Highest Fatality Rates from Red-light Crashes: 1. Phoenix, AZ 2. Memphis, TN 3. Mesa, AZ 4. Tucson, AZ 5. St. Petersburg, FL (Source: Fatality Analysis Reporting System, U.S. Department of Transportation; available at http://www.smartmotorist.com/red/red.htm) I "get" four out of the five ... but what about Memphis? I've driven very little there. What conditions would put Memphis in the No. 2 spot? Amy, who now also knows where the traffic cams are perched ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:33:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SFXGdE001239 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:33:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:33:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F920EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:03:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2066513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:03:13 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SF3DgS005224 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:03:13 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.220.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528150313.GWRO2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:03:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.220.58]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528150312.PJOU2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:03:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4298882D.5010109@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:03:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question References: <4297BE83.2000304@maynor.net> <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> <42985DD8.6050109@maynor.net> <42986329.4030702@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050528083156.01c054e8@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050528083156.01c054e8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Look around your place---the > burners might be there. They're not. I feel sure that whoever had it installed bought it in its current configuration since I saw its picture on the Jenn-Air website. (I noticed that that url I posted wouldn't work. It was my model exactly -- two burners on the right, that whatever it is in the middle, and the grill on the left -- four knobs center front.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:33:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SFXGdE001238 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:33:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:33:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9219B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:10:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2067669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:10:50 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SFAo2W006304 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:10:50 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.220.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528151050.HBRZ2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:10:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.220.58]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528151049.PLHE2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:10:49 -0400 Message-ID: <429889F6.3060709@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:10:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> <42985BA7.2070606@maynor.net> <20050528141413.GA11267@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050528141413.GA11267@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Since I am getting hypnotized watching this particular roundabout, > >allow me to add that if you choose the "option" of not giving them >a bank account number, you can ask them to write you a check. > > And I am back to my original thought on the matter -- that it's a neat thing if you're a vendor (or a frequent collector of money for some cause, like a memorial), but since I'm neither of the above, it's not something I feel a particular need for. Maybe that will change someday. Like maybe PERS will announce that it's no longer going to deposit money into regular bank accounts, that it will deposit it into PayPal only. So I would need to establish a PayPal account. Anyway, I have found this discussion enlightening. I'm glad I understand PayPal better now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:33:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SFXGdE001235 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:33:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:33:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9213C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:06:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2067118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:06:56 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SF6tx1005795 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:06:56 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.220.58]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528150655.GZDZ2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:06:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.220.58]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528150655.PKKL2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:06:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4298890C.2030603@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:06:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>difference from the pov of the . If I used a credit union instead >>of a regular bank, would I be getting higher interest on my checking >>account? -- Natalie >> >> >You might. You'd have to shop around. I know we certainly got a better deal > > Unless you keep a gigantic amount of money in a checking account, I don't think shopping around for interest rates would be worth the bother. A dollar or so a month takes a long time to accumulate into anything very . >on car loans. But, of course, you don't need a car loan and you don't really >understand why anyway would, after perhaps their first car purchase, because >they would surely then save up money to buy their next car when the present >car needed to be replaced. > > I had car loans on at least my first three cars. Maybe more than that. I can't remember the exact number of cars/years it took me to get beyond that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:51:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SFpAdE003339 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:51:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:51:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F923B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:51:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2071634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:51:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SFp9fX010285 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:51:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1990696nzo for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr1274067nzh; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:51:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tTWAfWYNJqbQTYjMu+z8ph47GEWUH2uD3DA0ylu2QMWsJdOcu1S0oE29HTmvqiU5Rtt7IjXnJtHyhLZOC/7lyhMLUtCxQKASAsJZxkfPaCV4oydL/+2/d+9o21fhSc7EgBqPQFCvyOkvLn4rcURqjkZqz7tRyv1BKFuZBltLVJc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052808512a122cf5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:51:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4SFp9fX010286 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/28/05, bonniemaev wrote: > But, of course, you don't need a car loan and you don't really > understand why anyway would, after perhaps their first car purchase, because > they would surely then save up money to buy their next car when the present > car needed to be replaced. FTR, I don't understand why people get car loans, either. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:52:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SFq7dE003444 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:52:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:52:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F923B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:52:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2071663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:52:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SFq2AC010340 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:52:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1990966nzo for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.126.9 with SMTP id y9mr1284644nzc; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:52:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dfTBlgJiiaWu7kSQb7Y+FxoJ6pwzntDqZHG9TrIaudfBWHclVFGuxybMSSEsnrZVhZRCkfl52nUtBpnfm72a5qcqfS0xM2r3rRYuTDAHNbuPrEkPsnqPp74xSqJs3EPC4MYlEGj/mcdQb0buVFHljxr4vvh76uyQrE9jVugTH+A= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505280852165325dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:52:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks In-Reply-To: <4298890C.2030603@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> <4298890C.2030603@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4SFq3AC010341 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/28/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Unless you keep a gigantic amount of money in a checking account, I > don't think shopping around for interest rates would be worth the > bother. A dollar or so a month takes a long time to accumulate into > anything very . A penny saved is a penny earned. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:56:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SFukdE004125 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:56:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:56:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9237A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:56:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2071830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:56:45 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SFujg2010759 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:56:45 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2216782wra for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr3525016wrd; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:56:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hFp5Ygl/uLkyrumwG4R+Ffg4/+blLLi2+Mu9wjsQFZz3bDV90Qvm6C6C1GAL2PdUmLrpCgUMfHVvG5ymC1/ZYCDLOcAgB26F0zAyPzsqCyYh5YWkbVq5eXerbeJYPEnof0k3nocSVGQHhHzEIxB6iIwx2LW7sKy4lwr0N2aOtik= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:56:45 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question In-Reply-To: <4298882D.5010109@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> <42985DD8.6050109@maynor.net> <42986329.4030702@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050528083156.01c054e8@pop.gwi.net> <4298882D.5010109@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4SFukdE004125 > > They're not. I feel sure that whoever had it installed bought it in its > current configuration since I saw its picture on the Jenn-Air website. > (I noticed that that url I posted wouldn't work. It was my model > exactly -- two burners on the right, that whatever it is in the middle, > and the grill on the left -- four knobs center front.) > -- Natalie The fact that you saw its picture on the web page means nothing. Our Jenn-Air is also the exact same configuration -- two burners on the right, four knobs center front, grill on the left. I got the web page you sent to work. Note that it says "modular" which means that the module on the left can be exchanged for a griddle or a two burner unit. It could be that whoever bought the Jenn-Air in your house didn't chose to purchase the two burner unit and went just with the grille. That doesn't mean you can't still do it. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 10:58:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SFwDdE004272 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:58:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 10:58:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F923BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:58:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2071865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:58:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SFwD8E010847 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:58:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1992953nzo for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr1268402nzb; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:58:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J7xs3HU9R+bhOBdm0klwhZwzUQUaIo20jSnxe7p2DddWZgLRLmfGRkEr/5f35RlePa5gNUzaUlQrj5UgwlUR+9hYAxV8z7Bl5NM/yV+UqYzP5scR/zCJcD/PY36fudhIAsPSUMk2NmkkrTje9EdJ3pQgFaloYHDsHMaGVutdEJ4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505280858240fc72f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:58:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For 'lan In-Reply-To: <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4SFwD8E010848 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "steph" > > = Anyone here ever get a camera ticket? > > = > > = Amy > > > > The Dutch only do traffic patrol by camera, so all the tickets we've > > gotten here are from a camera. If the camera is on (which most of them > > are usually not), then you can get a speeding ticket for going 109 in a > > 100 zone. They build it up something like 4% error and the ticket is > > for 105. They also do red light cameras, and I got zapped twice once > > going > > through two lights that were linked together and both had temporary > > cameras. The lights were just seconds apart (which is why they are > > linked together). > > I think as a teenager, that I would have enjoyed destroying such cameras. > > Nope... I KNOW I would have. That would show them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 11:15:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SGFmdE006226 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:15:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:15:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F92418@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:15:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2072402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:15:48 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SGFmH4012130 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:15:48 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.33.160]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528161548.QTZJ5832.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:15:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.33.160]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528161547.VNMY25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:15:47 -0400 Message-ID: <42989930.4050901@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:15:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's grille question References: <4297E3A7.6080800@maynor.net> <42985DD8.6050109@maynor.net> <42986329.4030702@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050528083156.01c054e8@pop.gwi.net> <4298882D.5010109@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > It could be that >whoever bought the Jenn-Air in your house didn't chose to purchase the two >burner unit and went just with the grille. That doesn't mean you can't still >do it. > > Right. I didn't mean to imply that it could not be reconfigured. My point was that not only are there no extra burners sitting around somewhere in my house or garage or storage building (since by now I have had occasion to explore thoroughly everything that was here when I bought the house) but that I doubt that there ever were extra burners sitting around -- that I think it likely that the unit as it exists in my kitchen right now is as it was when it was originally purchased. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:22:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SIMYdE022880 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:22:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:22:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065C6C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:22:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2081023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:22:30 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SIMT9g023297 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:22:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <200505281822290150097u2ue>; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:22:29 +0000 Message-ID: <4298B6E4.1050506@istori.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:22:28 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705052808512a122cf5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052808512a122cf5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen writes, > FTR, I don't understand why people get car loans, either. Speaking of loans, interspersed amongst the articles about home prices continuing to skyrocket in the Bay Area, there are starting to be articles about the increasing popularity of interest-only mortgage loans (i.e., you only pay interest, no principal, for the first 5 or 10 years) in the Bay Area. Seems pretty insane. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 13:31:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SIVUdE024005 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:31:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:31:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F929EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:31:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2084110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:31:30 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SIVUvE024909 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:31:30 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2254636wra for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr3634732wrd; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 11:31:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JzEneWGPJnwH2mc0dylLbWGNB1xSURu1uzOceoJA3v6Ub00Lhpbifxi2gT0W2/1dhSh4Sq5IHi4NvVX8dVt+b8i0wJSvynBoMx0o1E1zAgAnxxZOaxiGCivoFRXt9FIPeWnrViyW0lyDM2TdajJ6+dH9bUtBbWacxL3eZdxr77k= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:31:29 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks In-Reply-To: <4298B6E4.1050506@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705052808512a122cf5@mail.gmail.com> <4298B6E4.1050506@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4SIVUdE024005 > > Speaking of loans, interspersed amongst the articles about home prices > continuing to skyrocket in the Bay Area, there are starting to be > articles about the increasing popularity of interest-only mortgage loans > (i.e., you only pay interest, no principal, for the first 5 or 10 years) > in the Bay Area. > > Seems pretty insane. > > Pete > Not insane from the point of the view of the bank. As long as houses continue to rise in value, the bank is covered. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:25:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SJP7dE032337 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:25:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:25:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F92C0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:15:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2087742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:15:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SJF6Z6030310 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:15:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2060714nzo for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.9 with SMTP id f9mr1307059nzb; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:15:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AYn4z+jf6qsADlYfqiwFmkJQpRjDstw1GbXHtCCCalpp4dvZjxFhmEw3MUpDUXf5oLMqaFjJFEu1203+raWQlE2yJkn+B3E8KAbhgzsvNlQOb4QzSc05GWjIsj4m5oonL8vyNnyF19VPioQCP4unFA4EnkHqyH6dy7qPNuI6+to= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505281215377642f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:15:06 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks In-Reply-To: <4298B6E4.1050506@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705052808512a122cf5@mail.gmail.com> <4298B6E4.1050506@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4SJF7Z6030311 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/28/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Speaking of loans, interspersed amongst the articles about home prices > continuing to skyrocket in the Bay Area, there are starting to be > articles about the increasing popularity of interest-only mortgage loans > (i.e., you only pay interest, no principal, for the first 5 or 10 years) > in the Bay Area. > > Seems pretty insane. Especially since the average length of time people spend in a house is 5-7 years. But I guess it makes it doable for some people. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 14:25:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SJP7dE032339 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:25:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:25:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F92C25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:16:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2087900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:16:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SJGGCf030422 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:16:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2061061nzo for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.2 with SMTP id s2mr1314631nzc; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:16:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=X43jb9vsQXtkVCV+YZesziCHtCRmTtWLkUWusdLZ6Rx3Vr3M4tQGhtS84hwd0zfsKjK2Db1zNpkeaTlmOkiiaVfwGAt4NMLW5C2FvE2IcBGvBg/ZzZlcpqzRcPbp1kOu80O9AayZLTKI3hhVrr1Ebwnx8WNavKj5yo5bZeW/9bw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052812166df9ff9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:16:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705052808512a122cf5@mail.gmail.com> <4298B6E4.1050506@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4SJGGCf030425 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/28/05, bonniemaev wrote: > Not insane from the point of the view of the bank. As long as houses > continue to rise in value, the bank is covered. I am pleased to report that my house has regained its previous value. Now I am undervalued for taxes; at some point that will right itself. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 15:06:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SK6OdE003964 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:06:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:06:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F92E47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:06:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2091425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:06:23 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SJuNsK001124 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:56:23 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4SJuKjp014152 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:56:20 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 15:56:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: banks, car loans, etc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Now that we all know the difference between a bank and a credit union, perhaps we should review why one might take out a car loan. If one has just purchased a condo, one MIGHT not have the money it takes to move up and purchase (for the very first time) an automobile that costs more than a few thousand dollars. Except for the very well-used Volvo I bought (for cash for $8500), I never paid more than $4000 for an auto before I bought my present Subaru. To have used retirement funds to buy it for cash would have been insane, since I was able to finance it for 3.75% through my UT Federal Credit Union. I cannot imagine why one would not bank at a credit union if one is eligible. Today, though, because of the difficulty with the Spanish institution, I opened a free (no-fee for anything) checking account with BB&T bank. I was very candid about my reaons for opening the account. They were equally candid, telling me that they very much hoped I would decide to use other services and eventually move up to a fee-based account. Time will tell! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 15:39:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SKdFdE008000 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:39:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:39:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F92FFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:39:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2095885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:39:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SKdFfj005183 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:39:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2087029nzo for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.13 with SMTP id g13mr1319038nzg; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 13:39:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=R7rPutU9y4g39UqoK/oxAaDaIUg6l0uuSSgnwItIsUYNpES22ZNnJbWQmmJDd7HNN7pHUYwKDm8OML1BwFDFOinDpFRc64Xl1hqE3WhFw8wjFySYedfh7tYZ+0Q+m58PvgVZaBOVqIc4s1pUEFe3uzJ42HppPWjQtjpRtm4mgG4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050528133947f0fac3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 15:39:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Another take on identity theft Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4SKdFfj005184 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/28/AR2005052800163.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 15:40:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SKeMdE008125 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:40:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:40:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F93012@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:40:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2096029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:40:22 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SKeMBq005336 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:40:22 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.24]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528204022.BIZW22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:40:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.24]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528204021.OFWU13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:40:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4298D732.3000707@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 15:40:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: banks, car loans, etc. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I cannot imagine why one would not bank at a >credit union if one is eligible. > > Why? I just checked the website for a credit union I could use, but I don't see anything in the info that is better than my bank. I do see some negatives. You have to pay for checks, for one thing -- $12.50 for a box of 150. That many checks would last me forever, but I still don't like the idea of having to buy them when my bank gives them to me free. And it doesn't say anything about free travelers' cheques, though maybe not everything is listed. It doesn't tell what the interest rate is for checking accounts. In fact, it doesn't mention interest at all re checking accounts, though surely it does pay interest. So unless it pays a much, much larger interest rate on checking accounts, I can't imagine why I would be interested in banking there. >Today, though, because of the difficulty with the Spanish institution, I >opened a free (no-fee for anything) checking account with BB&T bank. I was >very candid about my reaons for opening the account. They were equally >candid, telling me that they very much hoped I would decide to use other >services and eventually move up to a fee-based account. Time will tell! > What does "move up to a fee-based account" mean? Why would somebody want a "fee-based" account? I don't pay my bank any fees for anything. Ditto my former bank (the bank in Starkville). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 16:06:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SL67dE010927 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:06:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:06:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F931B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:06:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2099256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:06:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SL66kH008206 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:06:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2094657nzo for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.5 with SMTP id b5mr1323214nzd; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:06:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eQm5iB7JWb6mkRjQJYJc1jLcTnVAdsHrekfr0qDqPYfrIdY+wwOZg1VPC9v1pOYaIkbuBcl8yyuDJoFrlftbHhH4R+C7XULKcej6Bvyq5ePs1ZdU1mF37G6MSz2QIwxfGNiJ065sWsqS/DtnmYmGN1OF319Fjoo6Gk+u0pg9Jx4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052814062c17f0a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 16:06:06 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: banks, car loans, etc. In-Reply-To: <4298D732.3000707@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4298D732.3000707@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4SL67kH008207 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/28/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > I cannot imagine why one would not bank at a > >credit union if one is eligible. > > > > > Why? I'm not Bethany, and I had planned to agree with you, but I just checked the IBM credit union, and their rate on 5-year CDs are higher than I could find at a bank. > In fact, it doesn't mention interest at all re > checking accounts, though surely it does pay interest. I thought that most checking accounts don't pay interest any more. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 16:24:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SLOJdE012826 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:24:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:24:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F93272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:24:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2100552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:24:19 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SLOIu8009991 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:24:19 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4SLOHah024963 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:24:17 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j4SLOHLG024961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:24:17 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:24:17 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks Message-ID: <20050528212417.GA24850@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 06:35:22AM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: = Tushar: I have a need for paypal now, and I am thinking of opening the = lowest-fee account with a large bank. = = I will have to open an account with a commercial bank today or Tuesday. = The Spanish university wants to pay me by bank transfer but is unwilling = to go throught the very slight complication of transferring to a credit = untion through another bank - i.e., transferring to Bank A, Acct A, acct = no. A for immediate transfer to my credit union, to my account and my = account number. = That's ridiculous. Doesn't your credit union have a SWIFT code? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 16:29:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SLTodE013386 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:29:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 16:29:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9328B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:29:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2100825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:29:49 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SLTnFp010517 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:29:49 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F93277@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:29:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200505282129.j4SLTnFp010517@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:29:49 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: commerical banks To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 28 May 2005 23:24:17 +0200, steph wrote: >= I will have to open an account with a commercial bank today or Tuesday. >= The Spanish university wants to pay me by bank transfer but is unwilling >= to go throught the very slight complication of transferring to a credit >= untion through another bank - i.e., transferring to Bank A, Acct A, acct >= no. A for immediate transfer to my credit union, to my account and my >= account number. >= > >That's ridiculous. Doesn't your credit union have a SWIFT code? I agree it's ridiculous, but the credit union in Kentucky I used to deal with had some sort of similarly bizarre process to receive a bank transferral of funds. The credit union I used to deal with in NC did not, nor does Desert Schools CU here in Arizona. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 17:00:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SM09dE016307 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:00:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:00:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F93299@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:00:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2101242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:00:07 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SLo66F012111 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:50:06 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4SLnVaq002849 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:50:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:49:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: credit union transfers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph: >That's ridiculous. Doesn't your credit union have a SWIFT code?< No. The exact reason for the complication has to do with the nature of the relationship between the individual credit union and the Federal Reserve. The UTFCU has to receive international funds transferred directly to another credit union. The real problem, as far as I am concerned, is that the Spanish institution will not provide the additional one-line instruction about forwarding the money to UTFCU to my account. Most institutions will do that, and my credit union assures me that they receive international transfers all the time. But there is no way for me or for UTFCU to provide the instruction that the Spanish institution refuses to provide with its transfer. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 17:11:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SMBrdE017713 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:11:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:11:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F932E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:01:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2101297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:01:53 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SLprJm012280 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:51:53 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4SLpobJ003217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:51:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:51:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: fee-based accts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: What does "move up to a fee-based account" mean? Why would somebody want a "fee-based" account? That will vary by bank and user. It has to do with interest rate amounts, minimum balance requirements, services provided, freebies, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 17:15:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SMFddE018200 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:15:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:15:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F932D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:15:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2102000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:15:39 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SMFcLh014265 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:15:38 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.24]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528221538.CCTW22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:15:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.24]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050528221538.OONG13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:15:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4298ED86.1050205@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:15:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: banks, car loans, etc. References: <4298D732.3000707@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705052814062c17f0a9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052814062c17f0a9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I'm not Bethany, and I had planned to agree with you, but I just >checked the IBM credit union, and their rate on 5-year CDs are higher >than I could find at a bank. > > I don't use my bank for investing. I don't have any CDs at the moment, though I did not long ago. But they weren't at my bank. They were elsewhere. >I thought that most checking accounts don't pay interest any more. > > I assumed they all did, but I don't really know. The one I closed in Starkville a few months ago did, and the one I opened in Jackson last August does. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 17:19:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SMJ5dE018431 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:19:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:19:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9332C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:19:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2102066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:19:04 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SMJ4kc014682 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:19:04 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4SMJ4vR012297 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:19:04 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4SMIi6C000874 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:18:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01c563d3$3779ddf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a70505280858240fc72f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: For 'lan Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:18:44 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" >> > = Amy >> > >> > The Dutch only do traffic patrol by camera, so all the tickets we've >> > gotten here are from a camera. If the camera is on (which most of them >> > are usually not), then you can get a speeding ticket for going 109 in a >> > 100 zone. They build it up something like 4% error and the ticket is >> > for 105. They also do red light cameras, and I got zapped twice once >> > going >> > through two lights that were linked together and both had temporary >> > cameras. The lights were just seconds apart (which is why they are >> > linked together). >> >> I think as a teenager, that I would have enjoyed destroying such cameras. >> >> Nope... I KNOW I would have. > > That would show them. KK, as you have no desire but to follow, I have no doubt that you would do just that. Thank God you are not in Europe these days, as great decisions there approach... 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 17:23:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SMNLdE018925 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:23:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:23:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065CFE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:23:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2102167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:23:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SMNK0J015262 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:23:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2115639nzo for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr1328227nzh; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H6BPfy/pGP7PSNTgAtzZVhEJuz2xHdTeKVwaoOOLYXLnTYf+sJ6yzZ4gpAbsrioOTtyKf4BFhfOV6JgY5q2S8p3MG2wvclOPR/6LsQRBULHMJIk0wnRyulsQGPhgyPypXR28H21SNMg/3SoitrDQO3MEUWQ3Wzf8eQn6SwLl8FA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050528152334519615@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:23:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For 'lan In-Reply-To: <000e01c563d3$3779ddf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a70505280858240fc72f@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c563d3$3779ddf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4SMNK0J015264 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > >> > = Amy > >> > > >> > The Dutch only do traffic patrol by camera, so all the tickets we've > >> > gotten here are from a camera. If the camera is on (which most of them > >> > are usually not), then you can get a speeding ticket for going 109 in a > >> > 100 zone. They build it up something like 4% error and the ticket is > >> > for 105. They also do red light cameras, and I got zapped twice once > >> > going > >> > through two lights that were linked together and both had temporary > >> > cameras. The lights were just seconds apart (which is why they are > >> > linked together). > >> > >> I think as a teenager, that I would have enjoyed destroying such cameras. > >> > >> Nope... I KNOW I would have. > > > > That would show them. > > KK, as you have no desire but to follow, I have no doubt that you would do > just that. Thank God you are not in Europe these days, as great decisions > there approach... Huh? I can't figure out which is funnier, that you know me so little or that you think I said I would do something! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 17:38:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SMbtdE020614 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:37:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:38:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F93303@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:37:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2102391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:37:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SMbsLR016550 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:37:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2119573nzo for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.106.8 with SMTP id e8mr1318439nzc; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:37:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=U1uSqlYfHikDVLanL2PMmGeLGcVF5UMZ3AhgAldV3ddtgqMkNXXFoJu/muKDjMxuNHSm9GiwDA4uul9W4PBQ0CdlIfmaDH4yHK/au980Z1EFBFGZRh4/ow18dZ9oQ0jfDk0fMb3mr+fECO8i49SR9JF/kHNithcpo9HnjLKeiJU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050528153714253a6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:37:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Computer punch cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4SMbsLR016551 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I keep meaning to ask... Are these actually used any more? We use these at work for notes, but I've been wondering if there's a stockpile somewhere, or if they are actually still making them. These ones are blank, with no numbers on them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 17:51:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SMp5dE022093 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:51:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:51:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9332E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:51:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2102738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:51:04 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SMp4uJ017607 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:51:04 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4SMp4vR012549 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:51:04 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4SMoN6C005002 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:50:24 -0400 Message-ID: <003b01c563d7$a2fc7660$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a70505280858240fc72f@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c563d3$3779ddf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a7050528152334519615@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: For 'lan Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:50:23 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You keep that pose, KK... the "Huh" pose. ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" >> >> > The Dutch only do traffic patrol by camera, so all the tickets we've >> >> > gotten here are from a camera. If the camera is on (which most of >> >> > them >> >> > are usually not), then you can get a speeding ticket for going 109 >> >> > in a >> >> > 100 zone. They build it up something like 4% error and the ticket >> >> > is >> >> > for 105. They also do red light cameras, and I got zapped twice >> >> > once >> >> > going >> >> > through two lights that were linked together and both had temporary >> >> > cameras. The lights were just seconds apart (which is why they are >> >> > linked together). >> >> >> >> I think as a teenager, that I would have enjoyed destroying such >> >> cameras. >> >> >> >> Nope... I KNOW I would have. >> > >> > That would show them. >> >> KK, as you have no desire but to follow, I have no doubt that you would >> do >> just that. Thank God you are not in Europe these days, as great >> decisions >> there approach... > > Huh? I can't figure out which is funnier, that you know me so little > or that you think I said I would do something! > > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 17:53:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4SMqudE022406 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:52:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 17:53:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F93337@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:52:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2102824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:52:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4SMqt9o017776 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 18:52:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2123441nzo for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.3 with SMTP id s3mr1328033nzc; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 15:52:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=O/oEP/MUISjLcBKsvJoaWJcMHsk7lQ9Fa4vYlUtWjJvMohvmA8D50a6RUXXD+YXXcbedrlhVlRn/0bPPpx3EoZenaVybWpVaxgKmZ8K/+2yUe8ezuG+FhNEzQCLrD3RE41WGs3kckZv2IJDQ/n1zb20ytAj+tlJ3UdWzrQykeJs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052815527ebd245@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:52:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For 'lan In-Reply-To: <003b01c563d7$a2fc7660$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a70505280858240fc72f@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c563d3$3779ddf0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a7050528152334519615@mail.gmail.com> <003b01c563d7$a2fc7660$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4SMqu9o017777 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > You keep that pose, KK... the "Huh" pose. Pose? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 21:26:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4T2PxdE012911 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 21:26:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 21:26:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F935CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:25:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2106903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:25:58 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4T2Pwgk001881 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:25:58 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2340567wra for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 19:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.8.41 with SMTP id 41mr3947693wrh; Sat, 28 May 2005 19:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 19:25:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rWjnwjgD4rGTXgwnzYAjAQ3dHs3L+p11/xL0YPhAxa5lFgOCtXQlRqUfLxLqjORAt2CJ/dzh4dRcprdn3p91WVZ6s9++ZwBGC1GxpfB8z4ok2p1PWejI93fjWYLzpTxuIguULkMdkThm5SUqO7SoHa3KtRffZ/eQ+RnntdVzY6U= Message-ID: <46227195050528192539a09a38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 21:25:56 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: R. I. P. In-Reply-To: <000801c56313$87c4fe90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c56313$87c4fe90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4T2Pwgk001882 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Eddie Albert. 99. > NBC Nightly News said 99. WikiPedia says 99: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Albert IMDB says 97: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000734/ News.Google site which says 97: http://tinyurl.com/bbb2l My suspicion is he got a sneak peak at how awful the remake of "The Longest Yard" is and the pneumonia finished him off. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 22:18:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4T3IldE018167 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:18:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:18:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F93856@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:18:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2112264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:18:42 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4T3IgpJ008480 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:18:42 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.160]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529031841.WQRZ2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:18:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.160]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529031841.REEJ11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:18:41 -0400 Message-ID: <4299348D.8020106@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:18:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Big Hit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My potato-dill stuff was praised highly at tonight's dinner party. I think that recipe will be a keeper. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 22:41:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4T3f1dE020883 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:41:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:41:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F93891@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:41:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2112672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:41:00 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4T3UxA8009529 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:30:59 -0400 Received: (qmail 47424 invoked by uid 1003); 29 May 2005 03:30:54 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:30:54 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie's Paypal Question Message-ID: <20050529033054.GA44923@words-l.org> References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> <42985BA7.2070606@maynor.net> <20050528141413.GA11267@words-l.org> <429889F6.3060709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <429889F6.3060709@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 10:10:46AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Since I am getting hypnotized watching this particular roundabout, > > > >allow me to add that if you choose the "option" of not giving them > >a bank account number, you can ask them to write you a check. > > > And I am back to my original thought on the matter -- that it's a neat > thing if you're a vendor (or a frequent collector of money for some > cause, like a memorial), but since I'm neither of the above, it's not > something I feel a particular need for. Of course not. But I think the day will soon come when someone sends you money through Paypal instead of writing a check, without a by-your-leave. Just like they started sending out Word and Excel crap ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 22:42:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4T3gQdE021005 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:42:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:42:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F93857@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:42:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2112706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:42:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4T3WQSh009671 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:32:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 47859 invoked by uid 1003); 29 May 2005 03:32:26 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:32:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks Message-ID: <20050529033226.GB44923@words-l.org> References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> <4298890C.2030603@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70505280852165325dd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505280852165325dd@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 10:52:02AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/28/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Unless you keep a gigantic amount of money in a checking account, I > > don't think shopping around for interest rates would be worth the > > bother. A dollar or so a month takes a long time to accumulate into > > anything very . > > A penny saved is a penny earned. And a chunk of grey matter wasted. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 22:45:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4T3jhdE021339 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:45:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:45:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9385F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:45:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2112727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:45:42 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4T3ZgEq009855 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:35:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 50195 invoked by uid 1003); 29 May 2005 03:35:42 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:35:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For 'lan Message-ID: <20050529033542.GC44923@words-l.org> References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a70505280858240fc72f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505280858240fc72f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 10:58:12AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/28/05, Alan Wild wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "steph" > > > = Anyone here ever get a camera ticket? > > > = > > > = Amy > > > > > > The Dutch only do traffic patrol by camera, so all the tickets we've > > > gotten here are from a camera. If the camera is on (which most of them > > > are usually not), then you can get a speeding ticket for going 109 in a > > > 100 zone. They build it up something like 4% error and the ticket is > > > for 105. They also do red light cameras, and I got zapped twice once > > > going > > > through two lights that were linked together and both had temporary > > > cameras. The lights were just seconds apart (which is why they are > > > linked together). > > > > I think as a teenager, that I would have enjoyed destroying such cameras. > > > > Nope... I KNOW I would have. > > That would show them. How? The camera's GONE baby ... heh heh But you know, 'Al has demonstrated the correct way to deal with the affront ... with a baseball bat. Other lusers would have tried to fool the camera subtly, by hacking it or something ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 22:49:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4T3nNdE021583 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:49:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:49:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065D43E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:49:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2112733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:49:23 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4T3dND5009996 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:39:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 52227 invoked by uid 1003); 29 May 2005 03:39:23 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:39:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: banks, car loans, etc. Message-ID: <20050529033923.GD44923@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 03:56:23PM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > difficulty with the Spanish institution Read it wrong again! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 22:56:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4T3uGdE022377 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:56:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 22:56:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F938BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:56:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2113112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:56:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4T3kEms010911 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:46:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 54767 invoked by uid 1003); 29 May 2005 03:46:14 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:46:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another take on identity theft Message-ID: <20050529034614.GE44923@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050528133947f0fac3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050528133947f0fac3@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 03:39:14PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/28/AR2005052800163.html If Netscape's programming code had not been released to the public under an open-source license, the browser that first popularized the Web would probably be pushing up daisies by now. Why do they all write like this? Is there a newspaper columnist class that only one person has taught for 35 years? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat May 28 23:20:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4T4KCdE025004 for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:20:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 23:20:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F93A38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 0:20:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2114907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 00:20:11 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4T41IEq012465 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 00:01:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 62300 invoked by uid 1003); 29 May 2005 04:01:17 -0000 Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:01:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Mary! Message-ID: <20050529040117.GA62029@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Salt Stain" Mary at this point ... http://www.gapersblock.com/rearview/archives/2005/05/04/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 02:07:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4T77gdE011151 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 02:07:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 02:07:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065D613@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 3:07:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2121605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 03:07:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4T77f8X029867 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 03:07:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2203409nzo for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 00:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.11 with SMTP id b11mr1357720nzd; Sun, 29 May 2005 00:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 00:07:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Pwpn1+yzJzhCLelYUZt4k6Phy0EbUBGCODvpLLeBUaDRgnQ6kSNVKnRGlXCF+Xc1ZUSdFxmWow+I4NcUHjgtFcR0tQznjufn3qDqFUh7FcCAA4M8Ewhpm+KPcwESKpKVUpZqNrs/Uy4e3Kn8qz2SO7pdD+ldkZFw+UXU5ytxY8I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050529000738bd8962@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 02:07:40 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Did you know... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4T77f8X029868 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU that the first U.S. cat show was for Maine Coon cats? They are the 3rd most popular kind of cat, after Persian and Siamese. (Though I think "mutt" would be the most common.) Nanook is a most excellent and brave cat. I have no idea how close he is to type, but frankly, I wish I had his termperament. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 06:18:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TBIZdE007663 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 06:18:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 06:18:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065D8A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 7:18:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1996569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:18:35 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TBIYHC007311 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:18:35 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.72]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529111834.VRTN5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:18:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.72]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529111834.RNCI7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:18:34 -0400 Message-ID: <4299A506.7060709@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 06:18:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Grills Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think we've discussed cooking out at some point, as in gas vs charcoal. There's a story in today's paper on the subject: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050529/FEAT05/505290321/1023 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:23:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TCNSdE014556 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:23:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:23:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F93F8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 8:23:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1997349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:23:28 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TCNRrO011497 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:23:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44504989C4 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:23:26 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19021-03 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:23:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2AF98F52 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:23:25 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4299B43E.2050208@akad.ee> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:23:26 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pay-Pal and Brad References: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.501 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm a believer! Pay-Pal is cool. Damn! Estonia is not among the countries to be chosen as a place where the payer lives. There's not even an option for 'Other'. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 07:55:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TCtPdE017835 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:55:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:55:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F93F6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 8:55:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1997702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:55:24 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TCtN0k013879 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:55:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522A097223 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:55:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25578-01 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:55:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C1D982EF for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:55:22 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4299BBBB.1030600@akad.ee> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:55:23 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ithink I may live References: <1504985826.20050528041350@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1504985826.20050528041350@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, I hope you may. Dan Lester wrote: >Naturall I've >gained weight due to all the fluids, both IV on monday and all the >ones I'be been pouring in since then. But this too shall pass and if >all goes well I'll be back in the gym before toooo long. > > I do not know either what TT is. Or what might fluid IV mean. Just that you've been quiet before and since the two messages yesterday. >Now I'm gonna skim thru the email of 400 or so > Maybe that's why you've gone on being silent. Hope you are going to be better, though, in spite of your bad injury and the sad news in the list. Kristin From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:06:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TD6DdE019047 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:06:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:06:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F93F88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 9:06:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1997935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:06:13 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TD6DGW014552 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:06:13 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.125]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529130612.RZSK16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:06:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.125]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529130612.UFDI5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:06:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4299BE40.60404@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 08:06:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Honoring Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's today's church service description: ******* 11:00 Service: Those We Honor. This service will be not to honor war but to honor and recognize those who sacrifice for others, as well as for their country. There is latitude here for personal interpretation. Participants are invited to bring photos or memorabilia to place on the altar and to speak briefly. ******* from: http://uujackson.org/index.html Guess who I'm going to honor. I just dug out an old picture of him from the 1993 croning. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:25:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TDP4dE021289 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:25:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:25:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F93FED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 9:21:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1998216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:21:02 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TDL2PJ015606 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:21:02 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4TDL1vP025270 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:21:01 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4TDKR6C031932 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:20:28 -0400 Message-ID: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Greetings! Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 09:20:26 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi all! I just wanted to thank all of the Veterans on the list, and everywhere, for your contribution. So many folks these days fail to realize that freedom isn't free, and without your sacrifice the U.S. wouldn't be what it is today. I want to thank you folks for making sure that we have the rights we all enjoy! 'Regards, Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 08:25:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TDP4dE021288 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:25:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:25:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F93FE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 9:15:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1998137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:15:04 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TDF3Ee015107 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:15:03 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4TDF3vP025237 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:15:03 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4TDD16C031194 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:13:04 -0400 Message-ID: <006401c56450$252944b0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a70505280858240fc72f@mail.gmail.com> <20050529033542.GC44923@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Re: For 'lan Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 09:12:59 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > How? The camera's GONE baby ... heh heh > > But you know, 'Al has demonstrated the correct way to deal with > the affront ... with a baseball bat. Other lusers would have tried > to fool the camera subtly, by hacking it or something ... They usually put the cameras up high... I think a long range drill would be preferable, as opposed to a baseball bat. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 09:17:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TEHadE026359 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:17:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 09:17:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065DB79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 10:17:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2005194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:17:35 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TEHZ1T020906 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:17:35 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2466914wra for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.3 with SMTP id l3mr4404334wrd; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.59 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 07:17:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=absRWC8I2IHHZs5YloKjf8FfdE99iTRPLaJOkGrpn1zdsGWlRK8P5GguBB8roxoV+aFXXc8170Q5kIZqxrb4ePZeFzQMBS108U3qpwCu9figvOPp5Yw4r8XW5qdR40E2Jrh7lYw6jmkwrsA74HgoUmSKDgDAFB1zNxksjMd2zw8= Message-ID: <462271950505290717742d7a7c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 09:17:35 -0500 From: phil paxton Reply-To: phil paxton To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pay-Pal and Brad In-Reply-To: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4TEHZ1T020907 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/27/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm a believer! Pay-Pal is cool. I just got word from Pete that $160 There is one caveat: I cannot attest to it first hand - only by reputation - customer service. A measurement of the quality of their assistance, including how responsive they are, can be measured on a scale of 1-10. 10 is "We're sorry for your problems, we've added $x to your account to make up for your time & troubles" and 1 is "sh%t happens, get over it". They are considered to rank somewhere between 0 and -1. It's one thing if you are transferring funds to a friend, but if you are using it for eBay and the requirements for payment are PayPal only and a window of payment of 'x' days, you would not want your PayPal account to hit the fan. If you have a good positive rating you'd probably be okay. "The dog ate my PayPal account" is what anyone would say if they were trying to back out on a deal. I've not heard of widespread problems, but that's about the time someone would provide a citation proving otherwise; perhaps from the volume of clientele and transactions. It would be interesting to know the phishers' success rate. It doesn't take phishers long to set up a site, and shutting them down can occur fairly quickly, providing PayPal picks up on email sent to them. A registrar in another country who wears a black hat may buy additional time. It would make for an interesting article but you'd never get help from PayPal. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:11:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TFAidE031468 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:10:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:11:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065DDF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 11:07:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:07:59 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TF7wgJ024701 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:07:59 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005052915075801600re4nce>; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:07:58 +0000 Message-ID: <4299DACC.5040005@istori.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 08:07:56 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pay-Pal and Brad References: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> <462271950505290717742d7a7c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <462271950505290717742d7a7c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU phil paxton writes, > I've not heard of widespread problems, but that's about the time > someone would provide a citation proving otherwise; perhaps from the > volume of clientele and transactions. I have not perused it, but you may wish to: http://www.paypalsucks.com/ > It would be interesting to know the phishers' success rate. For financial institutions in general, not just PayPal, I've seen informed estimates of 3-5%. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:11:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TFAidE031467 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:10:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:11:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065DCA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 11:00:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2007911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:00:42 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TF0fR6024118 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:00:41 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4TF0eJA030743 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:00:40 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j4TF0eTN030741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:00:40 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 17:00:40 +0200 To: words-l Subject: big puppets Message-ID: <20050529150040.GA30690@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.nantes.fr/ext/royal_de_luxe_2005/index.asp use the links at the top of the page for more From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:11:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TFAsdE031476 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:10:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:11:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065DECC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 11:10:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2008806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:10:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TFAqRa024999 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:10:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2311599nzo for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr1368101nzu; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:10:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r6+sOz9CZ4DfZaIqANzwN56FxE9dVOuRI4WbpNkUcHUDHsNXcvTeW88uVjsll7lhAdONNe+nOBkeOg2QwWG2zPtkNEyHQN6WEtgLzbjJriSbsI4F7SVPX1ZB3xKvYeJzVVcBcKkmRmLOkmzB99HK/Xyn8E1ySOnlNFSuvN+oYv8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052908106a54eed7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:10:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pay-Pal and Brad In-Reply-To: <462271950505290717742d7a7c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> <462271950505290717742d7a7c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4TFArRa025000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/29/05, phil paxton wrote: > There is one caveat: I cannot attest to it first hand - only by > reputation - customer service. A measurement of the quality of their > assistance, including how responsive they are, can be measured on a > scale of 1-10. 10 is "We're sorry for your problems, we've added $x > to your account to make up for your time & troubles" and 1 is "sh%t > happens, get over it". They are considered to rank somewhere between > 0 and -1. I had good customer service from them, but it wasn't money-related. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:42:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TFgadE002009 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:42:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:42:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F945FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 11:32:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2010267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:32:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TFWah4026723 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:32:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2318163nzo for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr1360298nzb; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 08:32:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ak33RMtaipUc8+q1AlXbxpqh1Q62B/o3P60GG/flpzp6xGdbXs1gKjyIEkq+8BoxPzbe4JcD38UcHX9jtk1Igx3UQT38zAcd/840zmOkyjNifR7BidVir7CYHdQFbekz102Jcjpd3aUJb6KPPaW+A59h6WQWyTAvvfvSvoK5pKI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052908327aa30e5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:32:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: big puppets In-Reply-To: <4299DE55.9050707@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050529150040.GA30690@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4299DE55.9050707@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4TFWah4026724 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very cool. Paul will love these. On 5/29/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > steph writes, > > > http://www.nantes.fr/ext/royal_de_luxe_2005/index.asp > > Here's kind of a home page, or blog, of the event, "La visite du sultan > des Indes sur son éléphant à voyager dans le temps": > > http://www.nantes.fr/detente/culture/art_675.asp > > Petite géante en vacances STOP > Venue voir éléphant du sultan STOP > Passera trois jours avec lui STOP > Signé Le grand géant > > Pete > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 10:43:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TFh4dE002094 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:43:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 10:43:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065DD68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 11:23:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2009533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:23:04 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TFN3WI025923 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:23:03 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050529152302013004j1lre>; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:23:03 +0000 Message-ID: <4299DE55.9050707@istori.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 08:23:01 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: big puppets References: <20050529150040.GA30690@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050529150040.GA30690@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph writes, > http://www.nantes.fr/ext/royal_de_luxe_2005/index.asp Here's kind of a home page, or blog, of the event, "La visite du sultan des Indes sur son éléphant à voyager dans le temps": http://www.nantes.fr/detente/culture/art_675.asp Petite géante en vacances STOP Venue voir éléphant du sultan STOP Passera trois jours avec lui STOP Signé Le grand géant Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:48:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TJm1dE030050 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 14:48:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 14:48:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9514A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 15:48:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2031391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:48:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TJm0IK016085 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:48:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2394879nzo for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 12:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.15 with SMTP id b15mr1397993nzd; Sun, 29 May 2005 12:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 12:48:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q/gQ4Y++0u2kqsDUMkc/YtUWVzQd2OFrXTqO2p//sC4N2e70jgycfkwYnOLxTebKcsc2CVzu/Af11wHhwgWL23ipPBCtorNRdZq/wc6pz9PCu+aWifkO2cTHCIHWyLFphRdZB8PEY+3/HLjk+xPdOoxvyCbqrMBukuts6+2QlYI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052912484570703a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 14:48:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: banks, car loans, etc. In-Reply-To: <4298ED86.1050205@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4298D732.3000707@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705052814062c17f0a9@mail.gmail.com> <4298ED86.1050205@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4TJm0IK016088 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/28/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >I'm not Bethany, and I had planned to agree with you, but I just > >checked the IBM credit union, and their rate on 5-year CDs are higher > >than I could find at a bank. > > > > > I don't use my bank for investing. Are CDs investing? What's the difference between saving and investing? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:48:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TJmgdE030109 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 14:48:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 14:48:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F95141@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 15:48:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2030392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:48:42 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TJcgCi015112 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:38:42 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4TJcbJj009495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 29 May 2005 15:38:38 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:38:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: bugmenot.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It annoys me greatly when an online newspaper requires a great deal of information from one in order to register to read the newspaper online. I do not mind giving name and email address, but some requests require a ridiculous amount of information - the local newspaper is a prime example. I refuse to register, but often want access. Particularly since I am a subscriber, I find it very annoying that I annot access the newspaper online without writing a book about myself. But - I have just learned that one can often bypass registration. Go to bugmenot.com Works for me! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 14:50:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TJntdE030269 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 14:49:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 14:50:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9515B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 15:49:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2031528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:49:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TJntuf016310 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:49:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2395461nzo for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 12:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.44 with SMTP id w44mr162890nzg; Sun, 29 May 2005 12:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 12:49:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=dYHIOkW6vP/eZZeroRXuMVOUIttzQrJlAxF1JE1Bz1MXQaUtV2QI9017Qg1LCTdBuA/4dqrXjl6OJaVp+rJbzXFpoaCSrrQIH5IDONNyYsDEpUt9EPY3b53mnRnvlutmNGZ2uWf7AsgiCDSLo56uNouTACbugGwecv3NZWbrIu0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052912492ebc8a74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 14:49:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Jury instructions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4TJntuf016311 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was thinking of Bethany when I looked at this, but this is AMAZING. http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8AD0EK80.htm?campaign_id=apn_home_down From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:09:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TK9kdE032061 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:09:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:09:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F951FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:09:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2031948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:09:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4TJxjTj017123 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:59:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 64679 invoked by uid 1003); 29 May 2005 19:59:44 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 14:59:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For 'lan Message-ID: <20050529195944.GA62966@words-l.org> References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <8ddfc8a70505280858240fc72f@mail.gmail.com> <20050529033542.GC44923@words-l.org> <006401c56450$252944b0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <006401c56450$252944b0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:12:59AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > >How? The camera's GONE baby ... heh heh > > > >But you know, 'Al has demonstrated the correct way to deal with > >the affront ... with a baseball bat. Other lusers would have tried > >to fool the camera subtly, by hacking it or something ... > > They usually put the cameras up high... I think a long range drill would be > preferable, as opposed to a baseball bat. 'yep. 'bat was m'phorical. 'of COURSE you would have to think of a more heroic way. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:10:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TKAYdE032180 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:10:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:10:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065E9A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:10:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2032144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:10:33 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4TK0WKc017225 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:00:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 65045 invoked by uid 1003); 29 May 2005 20:00:32 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:00:32 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! Message-ID: <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:20:26AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > So many folks these days fail to realize that freedom isn't free 'true From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:12:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TKCAdE032366 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:12:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:12:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F951F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:12:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2032831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:12:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TKCAwh018186 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:12:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2401978nzo for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.44 with SMTP id w44mr164232nzg; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:12:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Vba7/GINS3wlgiCo7TD+ECDoGa95Ct8db6hgq0SuJXtDNk3Vla8bDVf+cM0cNeAwOnPx4wN9RrA24xzKxsv5l40o/MBz8khNKdxERzWRqs8/aTEz4KGuYM/fvEy5kjrRa0fj1jzK8769j5KKrrDuO3Pxjr6+1A+zU5sYoZiRCcM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:12:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! In-Reply-To: <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4TKCAwh018187 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/29/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:20:26AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > > So many folks these days fail to realize that freedom isn't free > > 'true Name three. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:19:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TKJ6dE000211 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:19:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:19:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F95203@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:19:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2033419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:19:05 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TKJ5J0018876 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:19:05 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.31]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529201905.PVN5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:19:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.31]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529201905.TTTM7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:19:05 -0400 Message-ID: <429A23B5.20406@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:19:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: banks, car loans, etc. References: <4298D732.3000707@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705052814062c17f0a9@mail.gmail.com> <4298ED86.1050205@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705052912484570703a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052912484570703a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>I don't use my bank for investing. >> >> > >Are CDs investing? What's the difference between saving and investing? > >Although "saving" and "investing" are terms that can overlap for me, I think of invested money as money put somewhere with the intention of not using it right away and with either the contractual knowledge (e.g., CDs) or the hope (e.g., stock) that it will earn you money. That can also be considered saving, but not all saving is investing, in my use of the word. Saving could be sticking money under your mattress. To be "investing" I think that both of the above must be present: the plan not to use it right away and the knowledge or hope of its value increasing. I don't think of money in my checking account as money "invested" even though it earns interest. It is not money that I've put there in order to earn interest. The interest is lagniappe. It's the money I use for everyday living that happens to sit in a bank account because of convenience. > > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:21:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TKKsdE000382 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:20:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:21:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F95278@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:20:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2032813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:20:53 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4TKAq0p018029 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:10:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 70791 invoked by uid 1003); 29 May 2005 20:10:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:10:52 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jury instructions Message-ID: <20050529201052.GC62966@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705052912492ebc8a74@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052912492ebc8a74@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 02:49:54PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I was thinking of Bethany when I looked at this, but this is AMAZING. > > http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8AD0EK80.htm?campaign_id=apn_home_down Thanks to Platypus and its "isolate" op, I could read this without hurting my eyes ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:21:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TKLZdE000457 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:21:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:21:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F95273@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:21:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2033822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:21:35 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TKLZsB019159 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:21:35 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.31]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529202135.QIG5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:21:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.31]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529202134.TUBM7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:21:34 -0400 Message-ID: <429A244B.8010606@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:21:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: banks, car loans, etc. References: <4298D732.3000707@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705052814062c17f0a9@mail.gmail.com> <4298ED86.1050205@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705052912484570703a@mail.gmail.com> <429A23B5.20406@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <429A23B5.20406@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why did the reply I just wrote to Karen's question come back looking like a long quotation? I must've done something odd. Sometimes I miss my old Netscape Mail. Mozilla is like it in many ways but can also be kind of ornery at times. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:25:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TKPXdE000815 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:25:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:25:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F952CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:25:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2034343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:25:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TKPX1c019474 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:25:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2405937nzo for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.15 with SMTP id b15mr1400114nzd; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:25:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kuGvwA36qTKL8kxtbdGri20modasNjcpEGxhqjLMqqjJITAr2NxSsrWc+eyEAILaRzFyxgccgHeOJf1FlZ6pPFak8MimFZX9IY+OwKRCLQQyMAfGGLccUODeoji8DCVKMZtra3zG08DDlp0UDl2YGg4PYHHFYhczRzIkD5blJkE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505291325324bb70c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:25:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jury instructions In-Reply-To: <20050529201052.GC62966@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705052912492ebc8a74@mail.gmail.com> <20050529201052.GC62966@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4TKPX1c019476 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Platypus? On 5/29/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 02:49:54PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > I was thinking of Bethany when I looked at this, but this is AMAZING. > > > > http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8AD0EK80.htm?campaign_id=apn_home_down > > Thanks to Platypus and its "isolate" op, I could read > this without hurting my eyes ... > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:28:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TKSNdE000972 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:28:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:28:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F952F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:28:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2034766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:28:22 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-05-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TKSMUh019788 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:28:22 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-05-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j4TKSJRh011407 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:28:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <429A25EB.50401@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:28:27 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: big puppets References: <20050529150040.GA30690@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050529150040.GA30690@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >http://www.nantes.fr/ext/royal_de_luxe_2005/index.asp > >use the links at the top of the page for more > > > Kaminski blogged it today too. -a From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:36:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TKaMdE001673 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:36:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:36:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F95316@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:36:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2035469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:36:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TKaLwL020541 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:36:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2409108nzo for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.3 with SMTP id g3mr1389823nzg; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:36:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QuC2mDXlmPoLRWr9ifI+UWsAJaQM3McH1uv570hRioCVsXy2sCrqU8l4qW3GWqTvnHGozZcnDvzAbXwo1vPO19E0zd4hKY69UBUtS2YASutctjQFEB4VC0b1B1eyLCuFOu7PHtCZGr3u3mp6JcUyhFdGj6e+zlT3A2kimW++taQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705052913364f25468e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:36:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: big puppets In-Reply-To: <429A25EB.50401@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050529150040.GA30690@yoccoz.multinix.com> <429A25EB.50401@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4TKaMwL020545 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/29/05, Anne Toal wrote: > steph wrote: > > >http://www.nantes.fr/ext/royal_de_luxe_2005/index.asp > > > >use the links at the top of the page for more > > > > > > > Kaminski blogged it today too. I just hope the Sultan of Dubai doesn't see it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:44:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TKiRdE002393 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:44:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:44:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F953BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:44:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2036264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:44:27 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TKiQp1021308 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:44:26 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4TKiPCj032671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 22:44:25 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j4TKiPTZ032669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 22:44:25 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 22:44:25 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: big puppets Message-ID: <20050529204425.GA32577@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050529150040.GA30690@yoccoz.multinix.com> <429A25EB.50401@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <429A25EB.50401@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 03:28:27PM -0500, Anne Toal wrote: = steph wrote: = = >http://www.nantes.fr/ext/royal_de_luxe_2005/index.asp = > = >use the links at the top of the page for more = > = > = > = Kaminski blogged it today too. = = -a Yabbut, he quoted me (I assume) as the source. And since I didn't blog it, I don't have to name my source. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 15:48:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TKmOdE002750 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:48:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 15:48:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F95402@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 16:48:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2036648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:48:24 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TKmNag021751 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:48:24 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005052920482201100mkg28e>; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:48:22 +0000 Message-ID: <429A2A90.8030703@istori.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 13:48:16 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: big puppets References: <20050529150040.GA30690@yoccoz.multinix.com> <429A25EB.50401@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <429A25EB.50401@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anne Toal writes, > Kaminski blogged it today too. With a "via my friend Steph" attribution -- Steph, let me know if you'd like me to add your last name and/or a link. One more link, BTW, an extrait d'un article de Ouest France: http://www.fredericviron.com/verne/modules/news/article.php?storyid=229 Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 16:28:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TLS6dE006558 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:28:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:28:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9552B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 17:28:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2039066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:28:05 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TLS5TA025318 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:28:05 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4TLS4Bl000547 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 23:28:04 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j4TLS3Ck000545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 23:28:03 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 23:28:03 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: big puppets Message-ID: <20050529212803.GA429@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050529150040.GA30690@yoccoz.multinix.com> <429A25EB.50401@gmail.com> <429A2A90.8030703@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <429A2A90.8030703@istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 01:48:16PM -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: = Anne Toal writes, = = >Kaminski blogged it today too. = = With a "via my friend Steph" attribution -- Steph, let me know if you'd = like me to add your last name and/or a link. = Nah. See what not keeping a blog gets you! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:39:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TMcwdE013628 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:39:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:39:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F95627@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 18:38:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2040795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:38:58 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TMSwxi030150 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:28:58 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4TMSqlV001015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:28:54 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:28:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU a friend of ... wrote: > I was thinking of Bethany when I looked at this, but this is AMAZING. > >http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8AD0EK80.htm?campaign_id=apn_home_down Amazing - and totally ordinary and usual. I preached about this last week. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 17:40:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TMdsdE013753 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:39:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:40:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F955EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 18:39:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2041021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:39:54 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TMdsSs030898 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:39:54 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-159.gwi.net [216.195.166.159]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4TMdm0o044360; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:39:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:39:36 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Greetings! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:12 PM 5/29/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/29/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:20:26AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > > > So many folks these days fail to realize that freedom isn't free Freedom isn't free. Catchy. Which eminent 21st century philosopher coined that one? Karl Rove? Paul Wolfowitz? Charleton Heston? Ah, well, 'tis the weekend of platitudes. cwv "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." --J. Joplin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 18:11:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TNB8dE017423 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:11:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:11:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F95682@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 19:01:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2041574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:01:08 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TN17PB032511 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:01:07 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.31]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529230107.MOIB22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:01:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.31]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050529230107.TTVM13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:01:07 -0400 Message-ID: <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:01:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> > > So many folks these days fail to realize that freedom isn't free > > Freedom isn't free. Catchy. Which eminent 21st century philosopher > coined > that one? Karl Rove? Paul Wolfowitz? Charleton Heston? In spite of my gut pacifist feelings, I don't have any trouble understanding that in some cases fighting might occur to preserve freedom -- like fighting off a force of some kind that was threatening to subjugate the country and its citizens. But I am mystified by the notion that doing something like attacking Iraq is to "keep us free" (something I've heard -- or rather read -- said). It makes about as much sense to me as the statement that the 9/11 attacks occurred because "they hate us for our freedom." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 18:15:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4TNF6dE017726 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:15:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:15:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F95654@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 19:15:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2041824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:15:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4TNF6DF000942 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:15:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2453102nzo for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.43 with SMTP id w43mr174802nzg; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 16:15:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SdbSSt2WsqC6FIZTjRus0eVqZZK90CLqV+Enm/Og1HNlMkwk+3nz5Uv3U/mkSxsPNPRWlA9RHVyaNPgrnaif5r694CJQdMnmtJ1TVAWd90mowEdo0n5OErFhK+xJwr8KzMSPri8gRxb04P2GKeErQJewZgCq6vff8nhUK+gU5gM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050529161535bf8def@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:15:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4TNF6DF000943 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/29/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > a friend of ... wrote: > > > I was thinking of Bethany when I looked at this, but this is AMAZING. > > > >http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8AD0EK80.htm?campaign_id=apn_home_down > > Amazing - and totally ordinary and usual. I preached about this last week. Here? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:04:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U045dE022091 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:04:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:04:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F95742@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:04:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2043064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:04:04 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U0443W004162 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:04:04 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.31]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530000404.DPES5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:04:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.31]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530000404.UVAS7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:04:04 -0400 Message-ID: <429A5870.2070709@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 19:04:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: NYC Subway Research Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just found out that a year or so ago my old hs classmate who plays the piano and sings at Mimi's in NYC -- 52nd & 2nd -- said that there was talk of a subway station opening there and doing in Mimi's -- as in tearing down Mimi's to build the new station. I didn't get this info from him -- I got it as from others. I just looked at a NYC subway map and saw that the B/D trains do appear to be close to that area -- the map was kind of blurry. As much as I do think that more stations on the East Side would be a good thing, I would really hate to see Mimi's done in. Do any of you know anything about plans for new subway stations in that vicinity? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U0CIdE023136 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:12:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:12:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9570E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:12:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2043030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:12:18 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U02Ibq004058 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:02:18 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4U01uf1013759 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:02:14 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:02:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: not here Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Amazing - and totally ordinary and usual. I preached about this last week. > Here? > Karen Not Austin. Not words-l. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:21:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U0LCdE024025 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:21:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:21:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F95721@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:21:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2043414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:21:11 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U0LBZW005198 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:21:11 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4U0LAvV031044 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:21:11 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4U0KA6C012685 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:20:14 -0400 Message-ID: <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Greetings! Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:20:09 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > In spite of my gut pacifist feelings, I don't have any trouble > understanding that in some cases fighting might occur to preserve > freedom -- like fighting off a force of some kind that was threatening > to subjugate the country and its citizens. But I am mystified by the > notion that doing something like attacking Iraq is to "keep us free" > (something I've heard -- or rather read -- said). It makes about as > much sense to me as the statement that the 9/11 attacks occurred because > "they hate us for our freedom." > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) al Qaeda's stated goal is to establish the world-caliphate. I wouldn't want to live under oppressive religious rule. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:21:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U0LVdE024040 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:21:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:21:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065ED4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:21:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2043425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:21:25 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U0LPW0005219 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:21:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1472781wri for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.68 with SMTP id i68mr2440334wri; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:21:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=d8bR8claVg0oEKXvCgBmOBMg4Mn7i1hI1ASR3LD4PU43B9ucDvytG1ohVxHdkdWjtfmIN8eQIrhdW7Q9TbPgdfMV7Oir4BZlba8kR+uyvSDOd7apLfDTs3/sx92lYGzglpXDX1eNnKRBDYHdz4gmVpZfZPVqSLB9Liey7zLcpws= Message-ID: <83db447a05052917219e6df4c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:21:25 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! In-Reply-To: <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4U0LVdE024040 On 5/29/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > >> > > So many folks these days fail to realize that freedom isn't free > > > > Freedom isn't free. Catchy. Which eminent 21st century philosopher > > coined > > that one? Karl Rove? Paul Wolfowitz? Charleton Heston? > > In spite of my gut pacifist feelings... I'm not a pacifist in the classic sense. I do become uncomfortable with the USA being the aggressor. I can understand the Afghanistan thing; the Iraq adventure is quite simply a religious war with economic (=oil) overtones. I keep thinking that were Iraq a "christian" nation, no matter how tyrannical/sadistic/internationally adventurous the ruler, we would not be there now. I also get very angry with stupid bumper-sticker pronouncements such as "freedom isn't free." I am reminded that when Thomas Jefferson said (or has been reputed to have said) that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance, he was talking about the domestic situation. The last thing our present administration wants is vigilance, eternal or otherwise; they want, and are close to demanding, abject obedience. On this weekend I also am reminded of the observation by George Bernard Shaw that patriotism is the conviction that your country is superior to all countries because you were born in it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:25:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U0P6dE024449 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:25:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:25:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F95767@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:25:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2043511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:25:06 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U0P6w5005443 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:25:06 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4U0P6vP031084 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:25:06 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4U0NH6C013094 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:23:22 -0400 Message-ID: <004c01c564ad$cc295db0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Greetings! Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:23:17 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" > Freedom isn't free. Catchy. Which eminent 21st century philosopher > coined > that one? I'd first heard it in the mid 90s. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:26:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U0QhdE024544 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:26:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:26:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9572F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:26:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2043537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:26:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U0QgW4005580 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:26:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1178656nzp for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.157.18 with SMTP id f18mr1666920nze; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 17:26:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RgQSNq5JyCucATssAGdg0BMZYLuc8IpE8qcWfkX/7iKepwDcaOacYur/hQyMFosKqhvJVPopOPhHY1LPCHNXyknABdGm9XPetADnGExGvFph+AXcuWXRqYlttiU6HtNklGUHLD1i87PHTKSozZJmFqcvBKAiNxcGjj5anzseatw= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:26:42 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Unique Recipe In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527124958.01c0fc20@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <46227195050527071858322c73@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050527124958.01c0fc20@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4U0QgW4005581 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Given that it is Alton, I'm surprised that he didn't specify the weight of > the eggs, that the water be filtered, the butterfat content of the butter, > and the construction of the spatula handle. I'm sure he's given standing orders about the size of the eggs (medium) and the joys of various spatulas (he prefers silicone with a hard plastic handle). You're probably right about the water and butter too. :) Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:31:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U0UvdE024807 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:30:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:31:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9579D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:30:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2043776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:30:56 -0400 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U0UtAE005857 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:30:55 -0400 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4U0URLo082834 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 14:30:30 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 14:33:50 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Greetings! Reply-to: mem@shaka.com Message-ID: <4299D2CE.12348.100FDFD@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 29 May 2005 at 20:20, Alan Wild wrote: > I wouldn't want to live under oppressive religious rule. So I guess you'll vote Democratic next time. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:41:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U0eqdE026014 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:40:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:41:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F95773@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:40:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2044042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:40:52 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U0eqm2006608 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:40:52 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.31]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530004052.RJTO2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:40:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.31]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530004052.ZPUA2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:40:52 -0400 Message-ID: <429A610F.8030506@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 19:40:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> In-Reply-To: <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > I wouldn't want > to live under oppressive religious rule. I trust you're working on your emigration papers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:46:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U0kndE026622 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:46:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:46:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F957DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:46:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2044255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:46:49 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U0knXK007043 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:46:49 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.31]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530004649.RNGF2086.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:46:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.31]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530004649.ZQLT2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:46:49 -0400 Message-ID: <429A6274.8020306@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 19:46:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> <83db447a05052917219e6df4c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05052917219e6df4c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >>In spite of my gut pacifist feelings... >> >> > I'm not a pacifist in the classic sense. I do become uncomfortable with the >USA being the aggressor. I can understand the Afghanistan thing; the Iraq > > In looking back at what I wrote, I realize that I didn't say it right. I should have said something like "my pacifist leanings." Although I do find the whole idea of war pretty insane, I also was not against the Afghanistan thing. I hated it, but it made sense. >adventure is quite simply a religious war with economic (=oil) overtones. I > > Or an oil war with a religious excuse. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:53:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U0r6dE027142 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:53:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:53:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9580B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:53:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2044579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:53:05 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U0r5du007581 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:53:05 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4U0r5vP031387 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:53:05 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4U0pS6C016549 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:51:32 -0400 Message-ID: <005d01c564b1$bb840e70$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4299D2CE.12348.100FDFD@localhost> Subject: Re: Re: Greetings! Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:51:29 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael E. Macmillan" > On 29 May 2005 at 20:20, Alan Wild wrote: > >> I wouldn't want to live under oppressive religious rule. > > So I guess you'll vote Democratic next time. ;-) We'll see. One thing's for sure: extremism sucks. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 19:59:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U0xcdE027868 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:59:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:59:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F957EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 20:59:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2044407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:59:37 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4U0naTI007233 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:49:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 19707 invoked by uid 1003); 30 May 2005 00:49:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 19:49:35 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! Message-ID: <20050530004935.GA17624@words-l.org> References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 03:12:09PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/29/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:20:26AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > > > So many folks these days fail to realize that freedom isn't free > > > > 'true > > Name three. 'Forget their names. 'Couple of guys at the bar, and that other guy the other day. One said "freedom is free", and the other said "right ... kinda makes you think huh". The other guy said "I have not realized that freedom isn't free". I thought, 'Al should have been here with a long range drill. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 20:09:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U194dE028904 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:09:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:09:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F95866@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 21:09:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2045319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:09:03 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U193Br008496 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:09:03 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4U193vP031503 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:09:03 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4U17W6C018465 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:07:37 -0400 Message-ID: <007a01c564b3$fa4b0030$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <20050530004935.GA17624@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Re: Greetings! Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 21:07:33 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diegetic Mutant Hog" > 'Forget their names. 'Couple of guys at the bar, and that > other guy the other day. One said "freedom is free", and the > other said "right ... kinda makes you think huh". The other > guy said "I have not realized that freedom isn't free". I > thought, 'Al should have been here with a long range drill. Please... My modesty. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 20:11:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U1B7dE029189 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:11:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:11:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065EDFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 21:01:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2044959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:01:06 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U1166R008127 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:01:06 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (terms.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4U116vP031429 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:01:06 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j4U1076C017618 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:00:12 -0400 Message-ID: <006201c564b2$f1384440$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <429A610F.8030506@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Greetings! Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 21:00:07 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Alan Wild wrote: > >> I wouldn't want >> to live under oppressive religious rule. > > I trust you're working on your emigration papers. I finally got my passport! I was thinking about snowboarding in Argentina this Summer, yet a friend I would be going with is unsure about their vacation leave. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 20:12:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U1CYdE029380 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:12:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:12:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F95839@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 21:12:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2045192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:12:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4U12YP6008215 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:02:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 26095 invoked by uid 1003); 30 May 2005 01:02:33 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:02:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! Message-ID: <20050530010233.GB17624@words-l.org> References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 08:20:09PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Natalie Maynor" > >In spite of my gut pacifist feelings, I don't have any trouble > >understanding that in some cases fighting might occur to preserve > >freedom -- like fighting off a force of some kind that was threatening > >to subjugate the country and its citizens. But I am mystified by the > >notion that doing something like attacking Iraq is to "keep us free" > >(something I've heard -- or rather read -- said). It makes about as > >much sense to me as the statement that the 9/11 attacks occurred because > >"they hate us for our freedom." > > > al Qaeda's stated goal is to establish the world-caliphate. I wouldn't want > to live under oppressive religious rule. 'That was the long range drill of all speeches there, 'Al. 'Give it to 'em. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 20:50:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U1ondE000119 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:50:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 20:50:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9590F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 21:50:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2046587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:50:49 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U1onMJ011631 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:50:49 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F958D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 21:50:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200505300150.j4U1onMJ011631@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 21:50:48 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Unique Recipe To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 29 May 2005 20:26:42 -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> Given that it is Alton, I'm surprised that he didn't specify the weight of >> the eggs, that the water be filtered, the butterfat content of the butter, >> and the construction of the spatula handle. > >I'm sure he's given standing orders about the size of the eggs >(medium) and the joys of various spatulas (he prefers silicone with a >hard plastic handle). You're probably right about the water and >butter too. :) > >Ben Alton ROCKS. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun May 29 21:18:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4U2HsdE003071 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:17:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 21:18:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F959BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 29 May 2005 22:17:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2047676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 29 May 2005 22:17:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4U2HrPk014664 for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 22:17:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2490303nzo for ; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.3 with SMTP id g3mr1407958nzg; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 29 May 2005 19:17:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L8cktXnehBWirfCpytHd+PEJlTMiCTJwjAWzRpyolP1I5u2UFi19lHv04JxaAjqx5PV0fpFTS9baiqIlJhviuBkmAh+KCkZnQCJaJWvn681eeRN9m2osFpqmLBBGootZHTfhxwqmR+g2TEMXFDL5pCPcmj08fsXjpWcI9KwVgD8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70505291917694ec3aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 21:17:53 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! In-Reply-To: <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4U2HsPk014665 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/29/05, Alan Wild wrote: > I wouldn't want > to live under oppressive religious rule. How can you be such a fan of W then? (Natalie, I finally saw a car that had a W sticker on it today.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:23:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHN6j2002251 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:23:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:23:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065F987@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 9:22:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2072214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:22:04 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UDM3ZU026125 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:22:04 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-46.gwi.net [216.195.164.46]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4UDLx0q008407; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:22:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050530085003.01be9480@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:59:27 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Not Hurtigruten, exactly In-Reply-To: <429B06D2.3040404@gmail.com> References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <429B06D2.3040404@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:28 AM 5/30/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >..... >We now feel like pros. ...as well you might. Great flag you have. The one flown on the Midnatsol was just below our cabin (and amidships, of course). It had the gold postal-service icon in the center. On one of the holidays, they switched to the plain flag---I guess because the post office had the holiday as well. This morning's news about France rejecting the EU charter/constitution reminded me of the one quasi-political discussion we had during the voyage. It was with the bartender (always a good choice). I asked him if there was a simple answer (that is, simple to a Yank unfamiliar with a lot of European politics and economics) as to why Norway was not in the EU. After talking about the difference between the EU (which he viewed as a bunch of bureaucrats intent on telling everybody else how to live) and the EEU, he said it pretty much boiled down to that Norway felt that it was already doing what the EU kept promising to do, (and doing it better) so why join? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:23:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHN6j2002247 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:23:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:23:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065F894@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 8:45:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2071326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 08:45:46 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4UCjjGL022615 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 08:45:46 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005053014440411759 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 14:44:04 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 30 May 2005 14:45:44 +0200 Message-ID: <429B0AF7.2080608@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:45:43 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: photos References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> <83db447a05052717016ff68ff3@mail.gmail.com> <4297BEB3.4060403@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050527214713.01c03260@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050527214713.01c03260@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2005 12:45:44.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E865AA0:01C56515] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander skrev 28.05.2005 03:54: > At 09:09 PM 5/27/2005, bonniemaev wrote: > >> Poor Clyde. Please don't be insulted Clyde. > > > Why should I be insulted? I take photos to please myself, to provide a > record that I can refer to in order to relive a moment, a trip, etc. --- > and to satisfy my own aesthetic sense. Some people like pictures of > bunny > rabbits, ducklings, children, and other small creatures; I prefer > landscapes, nature, patterns, and light---and how they interact. And your photos have made me wish to go on Hurtigruten. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:23:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHN6j2002254 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:23:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:23:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065F995@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 9:29:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2072425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:29:14 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UDTDlg026820 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:29:14 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.106.154]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530132913.FKQQ18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:29:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.106.154]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530132913.BUPZ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:29:13 -0400 Message-ID: <429B1524.8050909@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:29:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not Hurtigruten, exactly References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <429B06D2.3040404@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <429B06D2.3040404@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great Show-and-Tell! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:23:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHN6j2002250 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:23:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:23:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065F8DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 9:23:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2072255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:23:12 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4UDNB09026242 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:23:11 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005053015212912104 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 15:21:29 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 30 May 2005 15:23:09 +0200 Message-ID: <429B13BD.7030409@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:23:09 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2005 13:23:09.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8B8A1B0:01C5651A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander skrev 30.05.2005 00:39: > At 04:12 PM 5/29/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> On 5/29/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:20:26AM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: >> > > So many folks these days fail to realize that freedom isn't free > > > Freedom isn't free. Catchy. Which eminent 21st century philosopher > coined > that one? Karl Rove? Paul Wolfowitz? Charleton Heston? > > Ah, well, 'tis the weekend of platitudes. > > cwv > "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." > --J. Joplin > Or K. Kristoffersen? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j2003944 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F96603@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 9:22:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2072219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:22:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UDM4ms026129 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:22:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-46.gwi.net [216.195.164.46]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4UDLx0r008407; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:22:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050530090013.01c01220@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 09:03:38 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: photos In-Reply-To: <429B0AF7.2080608@gmail.com> References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <4297AE12.9090508@maynor.net> <83db447a05052717016ff68ff3@mail.gmail.com> <4297BEB3.4060403@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050527214713.01c03260@pop.gwi.net> <429B0AF7.2080608@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:45 AM 5/30/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >And your photos have made me wish to go on Hurtigruten. Well, they call it the world's most beautiful voyage. If it's not, it's very close. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j2003940 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F96628@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 9:31:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2072545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:31:19 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UDVJ9I027046 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:31:19 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.106.154]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530133118.FMCN18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:31:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.106.154]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530133118.BVDN11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:31:18 -0400 Message-ID: <429B15A1.5050001@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:31:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429B13BD.7030409@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <429B13BD.7030409@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: >> "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." >> --J. Joplin > > Or K. Kristoffersen? Or if referencing JJ's singing, it could be KK, as quoted by JJ. I think I mentioned here before that I once made a tape of about five different versions of that song -- as in sung by about five different people. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j2003945 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9652E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 8:32:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2071126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 08:32:04 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UCW4d9021553 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 08:32:04 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-46.gwi.net [216.195.164.46]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4UCVx0o003375; Mon, 30 May 2005 08:32:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050530081537.01c006a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:16:53 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Unique Recipe In-Reply-To: References: <001301c56277$b8fb89d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <46227195050527071858322c73@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050527124958.01c0fc20@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:26 PM 5/29/2005, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > Given that it is Alton, I'm surprised that he didn't specify the weight of > > the eggs, that the water be filtered, the butterfat content of the butter, > > and the construction of the spatula handle. > >I'm sure he's given standing orders about the size of the eggs >(medium) and the joys of various spatulas (he prefers silicone with a >hard plastic handle). You're probably right about the water and >butter too. :) I can't remember---when he does an omelet, does he measure the temperature of the pan surface with his neat IR thermometer? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j2003937 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F965C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 9:28:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2072409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:28:14 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UDSDaH026739 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:28:13 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1699141wri for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.57 with SMTP id n57mr2629904wrn; Mon, 30 May 2005 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2005 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tFZrjEHho1yhoouET/Gc+4aVO6Q159/YklXIasbrmKTialE4nr0O/cDn0fIM0raiHZJs7rhMH+PzKqzg3qST0tlQiEwkGKEWGH0hX8HBNTGZfQ0rUwD+3qiDz8k+gGuXwoKw7jBxlO93j5/q3W1c7MWm/hTgWy5A+4OEqi5WF5s= Message-ID: <83db447a050530062842f088fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 09:28:13 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! In-Reply-To: <429B13BD.7030409@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429B13BD.7030409@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4UHa2j2003937 On 5/30/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > > > Or K. Kristoffersen? Yes. You are correct. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j3003940 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9665F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:11:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2073623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:11:35 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4UEBY0Q030656 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:11:35 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005053016095212851 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 16:09:53 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 30 May 2005 16:11:32 +0200 Message-ID: <429B1F14.20102@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:11:32 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not Hurtigruten, exactly References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <429B06D2.3040404@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2005 14:11:32.0273 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B0D6A10:01C56521] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev skrev 30.05.2005 16:01: >>So they kept the Swedish name and the >>fortress has become well known in Norway. The fortress is on the island >>from about center to the left on this photo: >> >>http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/oscarsborg.jpg >>Espen >> >> >> > >This picture makes it look like you are right down there on the water. >Almost scary. > > It is so low that you can put your hand in the sea when you are sitting at the back. But still it is a good thing that there is a ladder to help you get in. One of the phtos we took on our way home last autumn shows this more cvlearly: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/anna/hjemreise/steilene-1.jpg > If you wanted to do the Hurtigruten and not spend 11 days or so much money, >I would suggest getting on the boat at Alesund in the morning and taking it >as far as Honnigsvag. Do the North Cape excursion and then fly home from the >small Honnigsvag airport. You would have seen the best of Hurtigruten. > > This sounds good! > We noticed the hyphenation at Hurtigruten museum is Hurtig-ruten. We had >assumed it would be Hurti-gruten. But the ruten must certainly be the >English "route". Makes sense. We also discovered, this most recent time, > > > Yes, "grut" is something else in Norwegian. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j3003937 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F96685@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:01:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2073425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:01:47 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UE1lSE029792 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:01:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2857327wra for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.3 with SMTP id l3mr5530519wrd; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=H4+Ft+gfVERRmYtonZFSrLWO6XQ1bCzCQFyDy7K/+04ZueaP3T15fV+R8aDw7GCzbHZkxk34KCkvhZN3oNQajnVdI09wStZ9ZHpMCA8oNtH7+EiNHagSi2c40hfF7d4X7Fjy2NoO0paeFmm3USwx9dizGarKSr4D7UsZW3h6BPk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:01:46 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not Hurtigruten, exactly In-Reply-To: <429B06D2.3040404@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <429B06D2.3040404@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j4UHa2j3003937 > > So they kept the Swedish name and the > fortress has become well known in Norway. The fortress is on the island > from about center to the left on this photo: > > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/oscarsborg.jpg > Espen > This picture makes it look like you are right down there on the water. Almost scary. If you wanted to do the Hurtigruten and not spend 11 days or so much money, I would suggest getting on the boat at Alesund in the morning and taking it as far as Honnigsvag. Do the North Cape excursion and then fly home from the small Honnigsvag airport. You would have seen the best of Hurtigruten. We noticed the hyphenation at Hurtigruten museum is Hurtig-ruten. We had assumed it would be Hurti-gruten. But the ruten must certainly be the English "route". Makes sense. We also discovered, this most recent time, that it is considerably cheaper to book Hurtigruten through the USA representative in NYC than to book directly through the Norwegian office. I'm assuming that is because, in the USA, the tax need not be paid. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j3003944 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F965F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 9:42:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2072810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:42:32 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4UDgVY7028025 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:42:32 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005053015405012513 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 15:40:50 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 30 May 2005 15:42:30 +0200 Message-ID: <429B1846.8040405@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:42:30 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not Hurtigruten, exactly References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <429B06D2.3040404@gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050530085003.01be9480@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050530085003.01be9480@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2005 13:42:30.0581 (UTC) FILETIME=[6CEC4E50:01C5651D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander skrev 30.05.2005 14:59: > At 08:28 AM 5/30/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: > >> ..... > > >> We now feel like pros. > > > ...as well you might. Great flag you have. The one flown on the > Midnatsol > was just below our cabin (and amidships, of course). It had the gold > postal-service icon in the center. On one of the holidays, they switched > to the plain flag---I guess because the post office had the holiday as > well. And in an early movie with Woody Alan the Norwegian flag plays itspart as a prop: What's Up Pussycat. > > This morning's news about France rejecting the EU charter/constitution > reminded me of the one quasi-political discussion we had during the > voyage. It was with the bartender (always a good choice). I asked > him if > there was a simple answer (that is, simple to a Yank unfamiliar with a > lot > of European politics and economics) as to why Norway was not in the > EU. After talking about the difference between the EU (which he > viewed as > a bunch of bureaucrats intent on telling everybody else how to live) and > the EEU, he said it pretty much boiled down to that Norway felt that > it was > already doing what the EU kept promising to do, (and doing it better) so > why join? My comments are biased since I am generally in favor of joining the EU - even if I full agree that there are a lot of overpaid bureaucrats in Brussels. But there are many reasons why Norway may be the last country to join the EU: this year we celebrate a 100 years as a fully independent nation after the union with Sweden and before that being part of Denmark from around 1600 and the smallest partner in a union with Denmark before that. Also, strongly subsidised farming may have problems within the EU. There aren't that many farmers in Norway, but they have a strong lobby which also works on the general population and not only politicians. Fisheries: great fear that the Spaniards will come and take all our fish. General fear of loosing control: may not EU money take control over our oil? OTOH: aquaculture: this is important in Norway, and here the Scottish (especially) lobby has managed to get the EU to put extra taxes on salmon imported from Norway. But as your bartender said, we are already doing almost everything a member country does - we are even members in the Schengen agreement (which the UK is not), and we are the "big" partner in the EFTA-group in the European Economic Area-agreements (our partners are Iceland and Lichtenstein), so we can mve and work within the EU just as if we were members. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j2003942 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9651E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 8:28:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2070979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 08:28:06 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4UCS5n6020928 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 08:28:05 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005053014262311571 ; Mon, 30 May 2005 14:26:23 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 30 May 2005 14:28:03 +0200 Message-ID: <429B06D2.3040404@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:28:02 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Not Hurtigruten, exactly References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2005 12:28:03.0594 (UTC) FILETIME=[06642EA0:01C56513] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Saturday started out sunny, but clouds and rain was expected. And arrived in due time. But first we packed ourselves + three backpacks and various other luggage into a taxi to get down to the ferry out to where our boat lies. We just managed to walk from the ferry to our boat with everything in one go. And so we finally got the new curtains up, and mounted the barometer on an inside wall (or should that be bulkhead?) In any case, after a lot of this and that we had everything ready and started out. Just as we were about to leave harbour we saw again the same sailing ship we met on our first trip with this boat. A good omen! It was now raining with some dry periods in between. As we went further south along the fjord it rained so much that I had problems: I could not see through my glasses. (Maybe I should start to use lenses in the boat?) It now not only rained: in the south it looked suspicially like fog, and just around us there was thunder and lightning. But the dry breaks between the rainstorms became longer and longer: the weather was turning better. As we came nearer to our goal, a large island just where the Oslo fjord is at its narrowest, I did my best as far as I have learned and tried to prepare averything for landfall: had the umbrella-anvhor up and ready to be thrown out back and had a long rope tied down in front ready to be carried inland and tied to a tree or something. And then the rain returned and it was extremely heavy. The bay which had been number 1 on our list of possible harbours was full - even in this weather we were not the only ones out at sea. So we went for number 2, a more open bay where we might be unprotected if the wind changed to South or Southwest. The weatherforecasts had claimed that there would be almost no wind for the coming 24 hours so we decided to try our luck. There were a few other boats there, but there was lots of room, like 100 meters between each of the 5-6 boats including our Agia Anna. The landing went according to plan: we dropped anchor and stopped the boat just at the shore so Ingjerd jumped in and tied the boat to a birch. And then we tightened the anchor rope and our boat was lying well enough out from land, at least for the time being. A grill is not a good thing on board a small boat which behaves like a cork on the water, so got the grill going on land and found some mussels we grilled and ate while we waited for our chops to get done. The photo of me grilling is taken with a mobile phone, but still I think it is a good photo: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/blaskjell.jpg We also had flowers (and a bottle of ouzo can be seen down to the left), and the new curtains are also visible in this photo (with an ordinary digital camera this time): http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/blomster.jpg And the rain stopped and there was no wind - everything quiet: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/haaoykveld.jpg Before we went to bed we dragged our boat out from the shore another 2-3 meters just to be on the safe side, and that turned out to be a good idea. (In the inner Oslo fjord the difference between high and low tide is only 20 centimeters (less than a foot), so that is not very important.) In the morning the wind had strengthened and moved to WSW. The cork effect showed itself when the pan we were boiling eggs in was overturned. But nobody was burned and we got the eggs done. At this point the wind and waves were so strong that I didn't dare to stay tied up anymore, so we started the engine just to be on the safe side, and after we had had half a breakfast we left and ate the rest while we were going. Now when we are coming into summer not only have the bears came out of there winter caves, but madmen have returned to the sea. I have written some reports of our boating experiences which have made us (or at least me) look like clowns, but we are in fact pretty sane compared to the things which are now appearing as the summer is coming. Just to get out of the bay where we had slept was difficult: there was a couple in a largish sailing boat (using the engine, not the sails) moving around and around in the bay, suddenly coming from this and that direction. We wondered if the were quarreling and couldn't make up their collective mind where to go. But we got away, and the weather was good: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/haaoymorgen1.jpg And we had a serious captain: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/ingjerd-haaoy.jpg At the south end of this island there are some other islands and a coast fortress which became famous in Norway since their guns sunk a German cruiser during the German attack in 1940. The fortress is called Oscarsborg, after the then union-king in the Swedish-Norwegian union which was dissolved 100 years ago. So they kept the Swedish name and the fortress has become well known in Norway. The fortress is on the island from about center to the left on this photo: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/oscarsborg.jpg It is not much to say about our trip home except that it was delightful. But just as we had tied up in our home harbour and sat down for some late lunch, we noticed something strange was going on. A sailing boat running with the engine seemed to be trying to land. There was a couple on board (this is not the same boat I mentioned above), and we couldn't understand why they didn't go all the way in but instead just seemed to touch the ponton-pier - and then give up and go out and come back in again. We now guess that at least the man steering the boat was not at home in this harbour and also, probably, that he wasn't extremely competent when it came to handling his boat. But in any case, when they came in for the third time, and again just touched an edge of the pier, the woman jumped. And the ponton acted like a trampoline: she pushed it down and it came back up and she most elegantly fell into the water. We watched to make sure that she didn't drown and that she managed to get herself up on the pier. A little later the man managed to back his boat to what was the reason for all this: a boat which should be towed. And we saw them sail out of the harbour: he steering his boat, and she, soaking wet in full clothes on board the towed boat. We now feel like pros. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j4003937 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9681C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:10:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2076780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:10:14 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UGAEVP009560 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:10:14 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.106.154]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530161014.VSLB16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:10:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.106.154]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530161013.YLLG4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:10:13 -0400 Message-ID: <429B3AE0.7060702@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:10:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NYC Subway Research Question References: <429A5870.2070709@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/capconstr/sas/ >http://www.nycsubway.org/ind/2ndave/ > > Thanks! Both of those urls indicate to me that Mimi's is safe -- at least re the current plans. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j3003945 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F966C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:50:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2074427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:50:38 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UEob8I001618 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:50:38 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1728628wri for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.8 with SMTP id k8mr2669997wrk; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.46 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2005 07:50:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IZ39MDLWHK5S0nkgEfdSdEgkKUcwCnnMKmPgG9RSoHI6XoC2llX2b5m1YF7r2HetlhZOigC0kEO0tgEbqZvdOK7A/vSF3VusXtmtKJrEt+lpCxeyqf0Ouey8VoBS6uW/WfO2KK6X891MrSYqgTweTadqJ0PFxIdWxbw8hJsFGyQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:50:37 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: NYC Subway Research Question In-Reply-To: <429A5870.2070709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <429A5870.2070709@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4UEoc8I001620 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Second Avenue subway line was long a part of the plan. Plans were on the drawing board in the 1920s but were derailed by the Depression. And then sixty years later the tunnel was begun in East Harlem (125th Street I think) in 1972. Then the city went bankrupt so three years later the project was stalled and the tunnels were sealed. I moved from 2nd Ave just as serious talks about resumption began, but see here: http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/capconstr/sas/ http://www.nycsubway.org/ind/2ndave/ Marie On 5/29/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I just found out that a year or so ago my old hs classmate who plays the > piano and sings at Mimi's in NYC -- 52nd & 2nd -- said that there was > talk of a subway station opening there and doing in Mimi's -- as in > tearing down Mimi's to build the new station. I didn't get this info > from him -- I got it as from others. I just looked at a NYC subway map > and saw that the B/D trains do appear to be close to that area -- the > map was kind of blurry. As much as I do think that more stations on the > East Side would be a good thing, I would really hate to see Mimi's done > in. Do any of you know anything about plans for new subway stations in > that vicinity? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:36:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHa2j4003940 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:36:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F967FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 11:58:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2076526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 11:58:37 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UFwbie008615 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 11:58:37 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B14552911614 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 10:58:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c56530$5ce56420$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <83db447a050527131974bb8878@mail.gmail.com> <429B06D2.3040404@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Not Hurtigruten, exactly Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:58:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU thanks for the cruise. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 12:53:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UHqoj2006509 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:52:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:53:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065F9A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 9:32:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2072582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:32:23 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UDWM6H027138 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:32:22 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.106.154]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530133222.FMVU18991.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:32:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.106.154]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050530133222.BVKH11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 09:32:22 -0400 Message-ID: <429B15E1.3080304@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:32:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429B13BD.7030409@gmail.com> <83db447a050530062842f088fa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050530062842f088fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >>Or K. Kristoffersen? >> >> > > Yes. You are correct. > > But when I hear it in my head, it's JJ's voice that I usually hear. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 14:13:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UJDUj2017050 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 14:13:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 14:13:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F96A89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 15:13:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2081538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 15:13:29 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UJDTbH023826 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 15:13:29 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so888398rnf for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.104.24 with SMTP id b24mr1663750rnc; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:13:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pfebZJs8GcCOXD1KM25Tte6f5FBJ/TZMQ74FcXg7d30ECyl79O4q044T07Ve/iycybn4SiqjwWVI4tNVS0g8E4oOUg+D6aKCOUrSAKXjhQYLp/s0Hd5cULOtqbmw1TVcU6PaEZQVdsDqaSSiiseK4FjyUo5fDhJZBKzOyFitKnk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:13:29 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Computer punch cards In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050528153714253a6a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050528153714253a6a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4UJDTbH023827 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/28/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I keep meaning to ask... Are these actually used any more? We use > these at work for notes, but I've been wondering if there's a > stockpile somewhere, or if they are actually still making them. I haven't seen them in use in the business computing world for about twenty years, and even then they were rare. Probably someone still makes them - after all it's not Rocket Science to cut up stiff paper to order - but I imagine they're very much specaial order stuff. So if you have them available at work for notes, I think it's almost certainly a local stockpile. I used to use them for notes (the typical nerdy "card in shirt pocket" brigade), but they were easily available and free. > These ones are blank, with no numbers on them. There might be some very specialized use in process control or something, but not in mainstream computing. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 15:59:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UKwrj2031403 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 15:58:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 15:58:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F96C1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 16:58:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2084829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 16:58:53 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UKwreW032013 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 16:58:53 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005053020585201600rgbnue>; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:58:52 +0000 Message-ID: <429B7E8C.1000602@istori.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 13:58:52 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Computer punch cards References: <8ddfc8a7050528153714253a6a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's a 1999 Wired article about modern-day usage of punch cards and equipment: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.03/punchcards_pr.html And the main vendor they mention who's still in business: http://www.cardamation.com/ And according to: http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/cards/ another vendor, "U.S. Card Corporation, formerly of Tiffin, Ohio, has closed its doors, as of early 2005, after a run of 32 years in the punched-card business." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 16:42:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4ULg5j2004033 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 16:42:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 16:42:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F96D01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 17:42:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2087143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 17:42:04 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4ULg445004021 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 17:42:04 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-46.gwi.net [216.195.164.46]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j4ULfx0o051995; Mon, 30 May 2005 17:42:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050530174038.01c0c5b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 17:41:59 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Greetings! In-Reply-To: <006201c564b2$f1384440$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <429A610F.8030506@maynor.net> <006201c564b2$f1384440$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:00 PM 5/29/2005, Alan Wild wrote: >I finally got my passport! ... That's probably a good thing to have. If Sensenbrenner has his way, eventually you'll need it to leave/return to RI. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 17:13:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UMDmj2007677 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 17:13:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 17:13:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F96D63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:13:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2087946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:13:48 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UMDmrv006197 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:13:48 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4UMDlvP010392 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:13:47 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4UMDVqU015814 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:13:32 -0400 Message-ID: <008d01c56564$d206e790$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429A49AF.9040809@maynor.net> <004201c564ad$5c20cb20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <429A610F.8030506@maynor.net> <006201c564b2$f1384440$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.2.1.2.0.20050530174038.01c0c5b8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Greetings! Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 18:13:32 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" > At 09:00 PM 5/29/2005, Alan Wild wrote: > >I finally got my passport! > ... > > That's probably a good thing to have. If Sensenbrenner has his way, > eventually you'll need it to leave/return to RI. > > cwv That guy's just a cheesy bureaucrat from... from... ew, did I say cheesy? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 18:13:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UNDej2014324 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:13:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:13:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065FF64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:05:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2088956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:05:06 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UN56VM010411 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:05:06 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F96E1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:05:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200505302305.j4UN56VM010411@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:05:05 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Greetings! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 29 May 2005 21:00:07 -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > >I finally got my passport! I finally got BrP to Leetonia! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 18:13:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UNDej2014323 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:13:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:13:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065FF63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:03:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2088944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:03:40 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UN3dT7010207 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:03:39 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F96E1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:03:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200505302303.j4UN3dT7010207@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:03:39 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Greetings! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 29 May 2005 20:23:17 -0400, Alan Wild wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >> Freedom isn't free. Catchy. Which eminent 21st century philosopher >> coined >> that one? > >I'd first heard it in the mid 90s. Wow, were you not listening much in the many previous decades of usage. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 18:19:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UNJKj2014775 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:19:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:19:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065FDBF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:19:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2089166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:19:19 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UNJJOP012253 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:19:19 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F96DFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:19:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200505302319.j4UNJJOP012253@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:19:19 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: commerical banks To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 28 May 2005 07:29:00 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I understand the principle here -- as in what is being said about the >different motives of the two entities. But I don't understand the >difference from the pov of the . If I used a credit union instead >of a regular bank, would I be getting higher interest on my checking >account? > My interest rate is slightly higher on savings (called shares); car loans are slightly lower - but most importantly, they know my by name and answer questions right away; I get the service I used to get at locally owned banks when there were locally owned banks around. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 18:20:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UNKVj2014865 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:20:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:20:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0065FDC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:20:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2089187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:20:31 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UNKVKK012583 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:20:31 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F96E38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:20:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200505302320.j4UNKVKK012583@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:20:31 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: commerical banks To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 28 May 2005 10:51:07 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 5/28/05, bonniemaev wrote: >> But, of course, you don't need a car loan and you don't really >> understand why anyway would, after perhaps their first car purchase, because >> they would surely then save up money to buy their next car when the present >> car needed to be replaced. > >FTR, I don't understand why people get car loans, either. > >Karen Because we had to. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 18:22:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4UNMpj2015001 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:22:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 18:22:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0065FF7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:22:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2089217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:22:50 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UNMoUp012917 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:22:50 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4UNMovP010997 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:22:50 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4UNMYJP025623 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:22:36 -0400 Message-ID: <00a701c5656e$77a001b0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505302303.j4UN3dT7010207@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Greetings! Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:22:35 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 'Guess not... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Ostrander" To: Sent: Monday, 30 May, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Greetings! > On Sun, 29 May 2005 20:23:17 -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >>> Freedom isn't free. Catchy. Which eminent 21st century philosopher >>> coined >>> that one? >> >>I'd first heard it in the mid 90s. > > Wow, were you not listening much in the many previous decades of usage. > clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 19:06:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4V06Ej2018734 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:06:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:06:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0065FF17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:06:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2090002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:06:14 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4V06DIp017385 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:06:13 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.78.155]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050531000613.NDYO118.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:06:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.78.155]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050531000613.IBDR11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:06:13 -0400 Message-ID: <429BAA70.6090603@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:06:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: commerical banks References: <200505302319.j4UNJJOP012253@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505302319.j4UNJJOP012253@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>I understand the principle here -- as in what is being said about the >>different motives of the two entities. But I don't understand the >>difference from the pov of the . If I used a credit union instead >>of a regular bank, would I be getting higher interest on my checking >>account? >> >> >My interest rate is slightly higher on savings (called shares); >car loans are slightly lower - > > Those don't apply to me since the only thing I have at a bank is a checking account (plus safe-deposit box, of course, plus using the bank if I need to get travelers cheques or such). I didn't know that loans had to be from a bank you had an account with. I know that house loans don't have to be. They can be from any bank you want to get one from. Is that not true of car loans? >but most importantly, they know my by name and answer questions right >away; I get the service I used to get at locally owned banks when >there were locally owned banks around. > > Even here in Jackson the bankers call me by name, which surprises me given how seldom I've been in the bank. In Starkville they of course did also. My experience has been that banks go out of their way to try to make you feel as if you're their favorite customer. They're into PR. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 19:33:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4V0Wsj2021442 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:33:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F96EFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:32:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2090344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:32:54 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4V0MrlZ019094 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:22:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 7538 invoked by uid 1003); 31 May 2005 00:22:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:22:53 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Computer punch cards Message-ID: <20050531002253.GA91809@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050528153714253a6a@mail.gmail.com> <429B7E8C.1000602@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <429B7E8C.1000602@istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 01:58:52PM -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Here's a 1999 Wired article about modern-day usage of punch cards and > equipment: > > http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.03/punchcards_pr.html All that dreary journalistic human-interest writing to wade through, and I did it. I MADE it. Some clubs still use punch cards as "chits" or "tickets" that are signed by the club member for dinner, drinks, and golf-course doodads. The cards are keypunched and read into a computer to produce a billing statement. "At the end of the month we sort the cards by account number and return the original," says English. "The signed tickets go back to the member with a statement." Why does such a kludge-like system hang on? "It's your old-line clubs, your wealthier members-type clubs where dues are anywhere from $200 to $500 per month, and when members pay those kind of dues they want to get what they want. And these members want their ticket back with their statement." As is typical of journalese-writing, the question "why" has gone unanswered. But of course, it's a non-question. Of course the "wealthier" (nice word) members insist on antiquated technology involving presently unnecessary human effort. That is the definition of "wealthy". A journalist should ask questions if he sees some kind of commodity software like Excel being used. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 19:50:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4V0nrj2023450 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:49:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 19:50:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F96EE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:49:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2090763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:49:52 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4V0dq26020239 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:39:52 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4V0dkKo018841 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 30 May 2005 20:39:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:39:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: TCs and Spain Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I took cash, TCs, and credit cards to Spain. As it happened, the cash I took was really enough for all the expenses I could not use my cards for. But the TCs were essentially useless. Five banks refused to accept them, and no merchant would take them. The only place I used one was on the airplane coming back - I had identified a duty-free item I was interested in in the shop in Barcelona but not made my mind up to buy it until I was on the aircaft, and I used one TC there. I do not know if it would have made a difference if the TCs had been Amexco - I suspect it would have. They were AAA Visa. Also, I did not have time or reason to find the local American Express office - I might have been able to cash them there. BUt if you go to Spain with Visa TCs, do not expect to be able to use them outside the American Express office. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 20:11:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4V1B8j2025950 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:11:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:11:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F96F5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:01:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2091562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:01:07 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4V1177u022343 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:01:07 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.78.155]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050531010107.BXQB26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:01:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.78.155]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050531010107.ZJNK29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:01:07 -0400 Message-ID: <429BB73E.4040805@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:00:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >But the TCs were essentially useless. Five banks refused to accept them, > > Weird. Then again, I do have something stuck in the back of my brain about hearing or reading years ago that TCs other than AmEx should be avoided. I don't remember the specifics, but I always use AmEx -- and have never had one refused anywhere. The only place that a question was raised was kind of funny -- it was when I had returned from a trip and decided to use a leftover TC in Kroger. (This was back before grocery stores accepted Visa.) The clerk stared at it and hadn't a clue as to what it was. I'm surprised that you are already back from Spain, btw. I thought this was to be a long stay. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 20:38:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4V1bwj2029032 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:37:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 20:38:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F96FEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:37:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2092470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:37:58 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4V1RwNm024848 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:27:58 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4V1Rp2U027744 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:27:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:27:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: long stay? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: I'm surprised that you are already back from Spain, btw. I thought this was to be a long stay. The trip was planned for 10 days, and that is exactly how long I was gone. I taught two clases (2 1/2 hours each) and taught a 4-hour seminar - and had a bit of time to be a tourist. Next: Las Vegas - Law & Society Ass'n. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 21:35:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4V2Z7j2003075 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:35:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 21:35:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9710E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 22:35:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2094845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 22:35:07 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4V2Z5uY032265 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 22:35:05 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.78.155]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050531023506.ORNQ16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 22:35:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.78.155]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050531023505.DUIO4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 22:35:05 -0400 Message-ID: <429BCD54.4060907@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:35:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: long stay? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >The trip was planned for 10 days, and that is exactly how long I was gone. > > I had somehow gotten the impression that it was for a couple of months at least. Meanwhile, I'm about to set out on A Major Trip -- all the way to rural southeast Alabama. I'm determined to find some graves I failed to find earlier (in the vicinity of that creepy political church sign). I would've left yesterday or today but couldn't because of dog reservations. So I'm dropping Spencer off at 7:30 a.m. tomorrow, to pick him up on Friday, though I will probably come back Thursday -- went on and made the reservation to Friday because I wanted flexibility. As I've said before, dogless life must be extremely simple. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon May 30 22:21:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4V3Lhj2008044 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 22:21:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 22:21:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F973D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 23:21:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2100461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 30 May 2005 23:21:43 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4V3LdUC006346 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 23:21:39 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F973C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 30 May 2005 23:21:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 23:21:38 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: TCs and Spain To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 30 May 2005 20:00:46 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >>But the TCs were essentially useless. Five banks refused to accept them, >> >> >Weird. Then again, I do have something stuck in the back of my brain >about hearing or reading years ago that TCs other than AmEx should be >avoided. I don't remember the specifics, but I always use AmEx -- and > This has been Mercy's experience also - perhaps AmEx is losing ground in the EEU. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 01:22:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4V6MDj2028781 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 01:22:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 01:22:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F97762@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 2:22:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2107842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 02:22:12 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4V6MC8Y021673 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 02:22:12 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050531062211014003jgj0e>; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:22:11 +0000 Message-ID: <429C0292.1000800@istori.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 23:22:10 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Freedom Is Not Free Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John S. Coleman, president of the the Burroughs Adding Machine Company from 1946 to 1958, gave an address entitled "Freedom Is Not Free" in the mid-1950's (bibliographic record, title only): http://www.cbi.umn.edu/collections/inv/burros/cbi00090-092.html Other more recent instances: * inscribed in big silver letters at the Korean War Veterans Memorial in Washington DC, dedicated in 1995 * on the 50th Anniversary of the Korean War Commemoration Flag , 2000 Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 05:27:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VARCj2028598 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 05:27:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 05:27:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F97910@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 6:27:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2111264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:27:12 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VARC9u005064 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:27:12 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.138]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050531102712.ZAHC118.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:27:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.138]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050531102711.IILN2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:27:11 -0400 Message-ID: <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 05:27:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >> >> >> >>>But the TCs were essentially useless. Five banks refused to accept them, >>> >>> >>Weird. Then again, I do have something stuck in the back of my brain >>about hearing or reading years ago that TCs other than AmEx should be >>avoided. I don't remember the specifics, but I always use AmEx -- and >> >> > >This has been Mercy's experience also - perhaps AmEx is losing ground in >the EEU. > > Which has been her experience? My experience with AmEx TCs has been fine everywhere except in Kroger in Starkville, MS. TCs in general may be on the decline, of course, because of ATMs, making people perhaps look askance at TCs. As I think I've mentioned before, my reason for still sometimes using TCs is that I don't trust magnetic strips to keep working (though I've never had a failed magnetic strip on an ATM card -- my only failed strips have been on Visa cards). I shouldn't be asking questions right now since I think I'm about to set nomail. I started not to since I'll be gone such a short time but then decided to. I don't know whether I'll have a chance to check e-mail during my brief trip, and if I do, it will be using webmail, which means my list mail would be jumbled with other mail in a big mess. So turning off list mail is probably the wise thing to do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 05:56:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VAuHj2000031 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 05:56:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 05:56:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066065C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 6:56:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2111570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:56:08 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VAe05L005888 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:40:00 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4VAdowJ011708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:39:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 06:39:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: more about TCs, Amexco Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I did not try to cash AMEXCO TCs - I did not take any with me. I took AAA VISA TCs. Why? Because my bank/credit union does not provide Euro TCs, only US dollar TCs, so I went to AAA to get them. (AAA also prvides cash in a variety of currencies - that is where I got my Euro cash.) It occurs to me now that I might have been able to cash my AMEXCO TCs in US dollars at those banks that refused to cash the VISA Euro TCs - I did not try those. I only tried to cash the Euro TCs. At one bank, I was told that the banker's inability to connect with a VISA office was the problem. (I always have some US dollar AMEXCO TCs with me.) I am going to try to find out more about this issue - Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 06:11:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VBBCj2001977 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:11:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 06:11:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066082E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 7:01:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2112005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 07:01:12 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VB1BYF025129 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 07:01:11 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.138]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050531110111.FPNG8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 07:01:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.138]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050531110111.FOAW5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 07:01:11 -0400 Message-ID: <429C43F2.9060901@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 06:01:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Merde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is not going to be good grave-hunting whether: 90% chance of rain in Opelika, AL. But Spencer's reservations are made, so I will proceed with the plan. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 09:16:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VEFwj2026634 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 09:15:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 09:16:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F97D10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 10:05:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2119892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 10:05:56 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VE5uHm021364 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 10:05:56 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1015027rnf for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 07:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.92.63 with SMTP id p63mr200534rnb; Tue, 31 May 2005 07:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 07:05:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RTFcy5ABgLwY1LyugIl7YMBm2lItoH3Skvi9/AG6Fc+e8is/dS2TAXJRVnBb0PfXFdjP/TwEgTW6YaHDlnhyqB3b9ltRt5fiuoeZoWUjxV694VH6GVKvOgvg2ZludZWcdZCm2uguwP0m0IfHAbFHOFM5zBB6HdlrVbkfIG21mI4= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:05:55 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4VE5uHm021365 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/30/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I took cash, TCs, and credit cards to Spain. As it happened, the cash I > took was really enough for all the expenses I could not use my cards for. > But the TCs were essentially useless. Five banks refused to accept them, > and no merchant would take them. The only place I used one was on the > airplane coming back - I had identified a duty-free item I was interested > in in the shop in Barcelona but not made my mind up to buy it until I was > on the aircaft, and I used one TC there. > > I do not know if it would have made a difference if the TCs had been > Amexco - I suspect it would have. They were AAA Visa. Also, I did not > have time or reason to find the local American Express office - I might > have been able to cash them there. BUt if you go to Spain with Visa TCs, > do not expect to be able to use them outside the American Express office. What currency were they in? Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:16:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIGhj2023860 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:16:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:16:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F985AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:46:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2136584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:46:42 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VHactW022197 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:36:38 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4VHaVfa029819 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:36:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:36:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Euros/update on TCs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What currency were they in? Tony H. I though I said erlier that they were in Euros - but I guess I only implied it. I wrote, "I did not try to cash AMEXCO TCs - I did not take any with me. I took AAA VISA TCs. Why? Because my bank/credit union does not provide Euro TCs, only US dollar TCs, so I went to AAA to get them. (AAA also prvides cash in a variety of currencies - that is where I got my Euro cash.)" My cash and TCs were in Euros. Today, I dumped the remaining Euro TCs at AAA - and learned that, as I was told by Barcelona natives, TCs are being accepted less and less all over the European continent. I will probably not use them again. AAA still has a large banner saying "Accepted Worldwide." Not so. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:21:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIKZj2024509 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:20:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:20:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0066104D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:19:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2139641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:19:17 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VIJGVe028140 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:19:16 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:19:16 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:18:45 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Basket food Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is this like the "chicken in a basket" kind of thing - a whole bunch of greasy fried stuff served in a basket to there's oil-slicked plate? BrP >>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 5/31/2005 2:12:38 PM >>> This was a new one on me: The Carriagehouse Pub Open daily from 11 A.M. Serving salads, sandwiches, finger foods, basket food, and the best burgers in town! Ben -- The telephone book is full of facts, but it doesn't contain a single idea. -- Mortimer Adler From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:21:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIKZj2024510 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:20:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:20:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006610E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:12:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2139353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:12:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VICcia027241 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:12:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so2092339nzp for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.2.13 with SMTP id 13mr2456196nzb; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:12:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Jd1U8ckFYIF8MeQE7V7W0ZoUlFVSLlpbB0uSR4acurmEGa4RIsk+DLDgWLnjWkfD24eckht211SjCoPPVph0yRDKonNa4V/uPp0U5Q8k49MyREO97pwcokUvcdiW9TcXmFyCoGkX4Upwg8C2sNX8ESIIK/oxwbispUjoWiV+1cw= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:12:38 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Basket food Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4VICcia027242 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This was a new one on me: The Carriagehouse Pub Open daily from 11 A.M. Serving salads, sandwiches, finger foods, basket food, and the best burgers in town! Ben -- The telephone book is full of facts, but it doesn't contain a single idea. -- Mortimer Adler From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:21:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIKZj2024511 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:20:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:20:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00660F3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:40:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2136750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:40:30 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VHeS0t022581 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:40:29 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4VHeRC3020540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:40:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:40:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Hookah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Even though I grew up in a college town in the 1960s and 1970s, I was deliberately oblivious to the drug culture. I certainly didn't and don't need the drug experience, but sometimes I have trouble figuring out stuff that goes on here in Ann Arbor. I realize that a hookah (synonymous with bong?) is a smoking device. But what specifically is being smoked? I mean, not some remote theoretical possibility, but in ordinary use in 2005. Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:21:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIKZj2024508 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:20:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:21:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00660EF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:05:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2138792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:05:22 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VI5L6O025995 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:05:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 21484370 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:11:56 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.224.49]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 31 May 2005 11:05:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:05:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1897051722.20050531120517@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: R.I.P. In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050524085332324c73@mail.gmail.com> References: <000701c5605f$fe727240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <83db447a05052406131bd38105@mail.gmail.com> <000501c56074$4c5a8240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4622719505052408472a9bc1e1@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050524085332324c73@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 214, in=87742, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/24/2005, 9:53 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I thought PSA wasn't that accurate. The only that AFoA> gets me is cervical AFoA> cancer as a COD--it makes me angry. Just as with mammograms or ultrasounds being great for catching most breast cancers, they don't get them all. Same with doctor or self palpation exam. You need both to have the best chances. Exactly the same for PSA and digital exam. Each will catch some the other won't. And, many men of advanced age (over 80) have a very slow growing type of it that is generally left untreated because surgery to remove it would be more likely to shorten their life than the prostate cancer. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:41:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIfmj2027471 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:41:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:41:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00661106@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:21:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2139760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:21:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VILdRZ028492 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:21:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so2097604nzp for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.157.11 with SMTP id f11mr2434631nze; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:21:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BrfwPOa3gLg2UCx5bW4sVig5FomxJGi2cJRc0erRCmi3ZziYEdaP4DdLXG/tRytD0m7KT3UdVMWycKtdscUNoqafGzZcmERp6TWj0qB2Mma71JWjuctb/c0JNmGfihhBVwVgeMt1luepti0XqnM+ufooMoSGnMbSLDO/0Ka/e40= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:21:38 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hookah In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4VILdRZ028495 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I realize that a hookah (synonymous with bong?) is a smoking device. But > what specifically is being smoked? I mean, not some remote theoretical > possibility, but in ordinary use in 2005. Jodi's old roommate had a hookah; they smoked flavored tobacco. There are hookah bars in Tampa where you can do the same without owning the equipment, though I don't know how those places operate. I'm sure that one could smoke pot in a hookah, but there seems to be significant legitimate social tobacco-hookah use around here. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:41:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIfmj2027474 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:41:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:41:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00660F7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:27:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2140352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:27:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VIRq8O029483 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:27:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so2101516nzp for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.10.5 with SMTP id 5mr2465049nzj; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:27:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n+i6CnKTFL73YONeVpouNfpsGCB8DCqpr5OvdZtX8x4/XFqu0cRCCbfANVOx7IGRkGHgF/KWOppfUvggxUYebtkqHwEqgO9UAv4k1yRDubjkV7n7tlfN2SSgjh3OryGfrc/zsGkzLFROmWjzajWGGb9QXI/OG6ky3UvUzxTGcPU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:27:51 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Basket food In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4VIRq8O029485 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Is this like the "chicken in a basket" kind of thing - a whole bunch of > greasy fried stuff served in a basket to there's oil-slicked plate? I don't actually know. I transcribed a flyer I stole from their bathroom mirror, but I was there for a catered reception. The fact that the groom yelled at the bride until she cried, just because there was no vegetarian meal for me, was . (He then went off to the bar on the other side of the restaurant, he got too drunk to drive her to the honeymoon hotel, and when she asked him what he planned to do about the situation, he blamed the Devil and claimed that his best man had pried his hands off the wall to drag him into the bar.) What really bothered me about all that was that the vows were all about her submission to him (this was not a leather affair, just an ultra-conservative Christian church) and that the preacher kept emphasizing after the ceremony that divorce was definitely not an option. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:42:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIfmj3027471 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:41:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:42:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066114D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:33:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2140731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:33:57 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VIXunl030535 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:33:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 21551882 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:34:17 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.224.49]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 31 May 2005 11:34:19 -0700 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:33:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <482794535.20050531123352@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 212, in=74145, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/26/2005, 9:22 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I am not the poster child for short people. Think Yoda already has that job. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:42:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIgqj2027596 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:42:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:42:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F987CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:42:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2141400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:42:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VIgoWG031935 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:42:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3592656nzo for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.13 with SMTP id u13mr1940927nzb; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:42:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Yr/1Zk5IEPKzgAmSaIIXTVo12irYYw6hmtJKHH4JYcHc9iH/IQg8kiHUnpVa1r5bfJ8Oyf7tLvKLSmH8yUA/jyKumCLMmAIp0GDi/w/1S4XyuvLCtWGN/HSsw8tzqEWyp5n0xF4apOCRSuY981WA3tHDeFGZFwNYk21ISKE9Q98= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050531114266abdfa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:42:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <482794535.20050531123352@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> <482794535.20050531123352@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j4VIgpWG031936 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5/31/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/26/2005, 9:22 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > AFoA> I am not the poster child for short people. > > > Think Yoda already has that job. I didn't realize that Yoda was a short person. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:43:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIh7j2027630 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:43:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:43:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F987CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:43:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2141416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:43:06 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VIh5pP031972 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:43:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 21552873 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:43:26 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.224.49]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 31 May 2005 11:43:28 -0700 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:43:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <104678307.20050531124306@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <00e401c56202$571a1170$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 212, in=74148, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/26/2005, 11:19 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Mail sent to/from a company machine is not personal. AFoA> Mail sent to AFoA> Words-L is not personal. Any mail, email or otherwise is only as personal as all of those who touch it or possess it along the way. AFoA> If this mail was sent to/from personal machines, I'm AFoA> very surprised AFoA> that it's been used in trials. I thought the sender AFoA> owns their e-mail, AFoA> as the sender owns letters. The writer owns the intellectual content (copyright in the act of creation). However, the owner of the document owns that document. The owner of the document doesn't have the right to republish it for profit under copyright law, without permission of (and possibly compensation to) the author. Think divorce trials if you want to think of legal uses of letters or emails that are "strictly personal". dan AFoA> Do you have a specific AFoA> case in mind? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:52:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VIqKj2028716 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:52:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:52:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00661008@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:52:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2142100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:52:20 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VIqKAS000677 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:52:20 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 21553864 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:52:40 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.224.49]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 31 May 2005 11:52:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:52:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <236956204.20050531125221@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 212, in=74153, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Right. Nothing would/could stop me from starting to personally archive every words-l post. I could store them for years on a web server and make them available for googling or not. And who would ever know? Remember to never say in email NOTHING that you don't want to end up on the front page of the newspaper. Think about the Spokane mayor.... dan 5/26/2005, 2:17 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: TH> Although TH> there may well be no official Words-L gateway to TH> anywhere else, there TH> may be all sorts of unofficial leaks onto Googlable TH> places. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 13:55:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VItcj2029074 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:55:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 13:55:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006611DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:55:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2142380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:55:38 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VItbtu001208 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:55:37 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 31 May 2005 14:55:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:55:11 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Basket food Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I (groom) take thee (bride) to be my chattel... It's a good thing that there are lots of people out there defending "traditional" marriage. BrP >>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 5/31/2005 2:27:51 PM >>> The fact that the groom yelled at the bride until she cried, just because there was no vegetarian meal for me, was . (He then went off to the bar on the other side of the restaurant, he got too drunk to drive her to the honeymoon hotel, and when she asked him what he planned to do about the situation, he blamed the Devil and claimed that his best man had pried his hands off the wall to drag him into the bar.) What really bothered me about all that was that the vows were all about her submission to him (this was not a leather affair, just an ultra-conservative Christian church) and that the preacher kept emphasizing after the ceremony that divorce was definitely not an option. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 15:59:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VKxOj2010017 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 15:59:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 15:59:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00661257@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:49:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2149496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:49:23 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VKnMwG017135 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:49:23 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j4VKnL7q027476 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 16:49:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:49:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <236956204.20050531125221@gailndan.com> Message-ID: References: <200505261440.j4QEeLFx004389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a70505260812285cb9f8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c56209$bfb4ebe0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4295F37F.1040801@akad.ee> <4295F70D.5050105@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a705052609256dec3ade@mail.gmail.com> <000601c56211$b7933090$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052609571142707@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56215$f6bf61e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050526101947446623@mail.gmail.com> <236956204.20050531125221@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 31 May 2005, Dan Lester wrote: > Remember to never say in email NOTHING that you don't want to end up > on the front page of the newspaper. As a politician, naturally, I do keep that in mind. I wouldn't like seeing my private email published anywhere, but probably very little of it would be interesting enough to be at risk of that. > Think about the Spokane mayor.... That was a case of almost unbelievable hubris and hypocrisy, someone who didn't think the rules he advocated should apply to him. I would venture to guess that most politicos' unguarded private correspondence would not reveal such a sharp disconnect between the public and the private person. I mean, sure, if you had access to his private mail, you might find out Senator Joe Lieberman's pet name for his wife Hadassah, but you're not going to discover that he's secretly a Muslim. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 18:50:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j4VNooj2030659 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 18:50:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 18:50:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066171E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 19:50:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2158087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 19:50:50 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4VNomWS002034 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 19:50:48 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F98FB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 19:50:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200505312350.j4VNomWS002034@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 19:50:48 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hookah To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:40:27 -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >Even though I grew up in a college town in the 1960s and 1970s, I was >deliberately oblivious to the drug culture. I certainly didn't and don't >need the drug experience, but sometimes I have trouble figuring out stuff >that goes on here in Ann Arbor. > >I realize that a hookah (synonymous with bong?) is a smoking device. But >what specifically is being smoked? I mean, not some remote theoretical >possibility, but in ordinary use in 2005. > > Larry Not synonymous - ancient and honorable precursor to. Used to smoke tobacco and opium before it was picked up as a hippie thing. My grandfather, who collected pipes before he died of lung cancer, had an antique hookah which I've inherited (and the rest of the collection as well). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 19:07:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5107jj2000143 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 19:07:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 19:07:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066177E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 20:07:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2158680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 20:07:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5107in6003708 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 20:07:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so2475688wra for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 17:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.51.17 with SMTP id y17mr3230469wry; Tue, 31 May 2005 17:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 17:07:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TmO3DRzI4mCIxTnP/EmsnTKele8ObVOVYOv2z135rMCcULmbIvy1PrYSoargRXDMfxNohNp8nre16VzR9ZU2qv4qa2mYOrcxVeIIvbwSB6Yz/CT+IjnemDW1v3zzSyJNm+KPGuDCvEuTEPN3fX38i7XmT6Ie5fMAnLPUMeFKV6o= Message-ID: <83db447a0505311707176ea6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 20:07:40 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hookah In-Reply-To: <200505312350.j4VNomWS002034@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505312350.j4VNomWS002034@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5107jj2000143 On 5/31/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:40:27 -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum > wrote: > > >Even though I grew up in a college town in the 1960s and 1970s, I was > >deliberately oblivious to the drug culture. I certainly didn't and don't > >need the drug experience, but sometimes I have trouble figuring out stuff > >that goes on here in Ann Arbor. > > > >I realize that a hookah (synonymous with bong?) is a smoking device. But > >what specifically is being smoked? I mean, not some remote theoretical > >possibility, but in ordinary use in 2005. > > > > Not synonymous - ancient and honorable precursor to. > Used to smoke tobacco and opium before it was picked up as a hippie > thing. My grandfather, who collected pipes before he died of lung > cancer, had an antique hookah which I've inherited (and the rest > of the collection as well). Somewhat before the hippie thing, I set up my own primitive hookah, using an Erlenmeyer flask, some corks, glass and latex tubing, and the bowl and mouthpiece of one of my pipes. In theory and somewhat in practice, it worked---bubbling the smoke through water did cool it off and mellow it somewhat. However, to make it really worth the bother, I would have needed a larger bowl for the tobacco, or tobacco that was more moist, i.e., slower burning. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 19:32:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j510W2j2002624 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 19:32:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 19:32:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006615EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 20:32:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2159325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 20:32:02 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j510W1bH005904 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 20:32:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2569772wri for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 17:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.71.17 with SMTP id t17mr3257568wra; Tue, 31 May 2005 17:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.46 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 17:32:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uMLfbwI4U/fir9dSxRw5/15LQdwcIP3Z+jcUAy5Ry0ZjWOqxFxB1hz2RjnHJTj8/iCWO9vQ0glqc0prEI6dSz94ITouQnRfldRGRuoWj5956z2ZjXSIDdXIIwHyS+19V3qWAnBAIAjQ2KtHEmklSvaCk5on+io6ddkiUTlH1FKQ= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 20:32:01 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pay-Pal and Brad In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052908106a54eed7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> <462271950505290717742d7a7c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052908106a54eed7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j510W2bH005905 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pete, is it too late to contribute? I'm a little out of it because the girls are sick. Waaaaahh!!! Marie On 5/29/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 5/29/05, phil paxton wrote: > > There is one caveat: I cannot attest to it first hand - only by > > reputation - customer service. A measurement of the quality of their > > assistance, including how responsive they are, can be measured on a > > scale of 1-10. 10 is "We're sorry for your problems, we've added $x > > to your account to make up for your time & troubles" and 1 is "sh%t > > happens, get over it". They are considered to rank somewhere between > > 0 and -1. > > I had good customer service from them, but it wasn't money-related. > > Karen > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 21:31:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j512VBj2016310 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 21:31:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 21:31:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F999DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:31:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2174075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:15:31 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j512FUjd015019 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:15:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005060102152901400drrcie>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 02:15:30 +0000 Message-ID: <429D1A3B.70407@istori.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 19:15:23 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pay-Pal and Brad References: <4297BB29.8030004@maynor.net> <462271950505290717742d7a7c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705052908106a54eed7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie writes, > Pete, is it too late to contribute? No, not at all. Natalie had suggested June 15th to get checks together so she could give them to the library, so there's still plenty of time. (After that would be fine, too, I imagine, it just wouldn't end up at the library with the other Wordsler checks.) > I'm a little out of it because the girls are sick. Waaaaahh!!! Oh, no! That's not fun. We had colds over the weekend, but it's a lot easier when the kids are older. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue May 31 22:13:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j513DHj2022833 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:13:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 22:13:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006622D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 31 May 2005 23:03:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2179410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 31 May 2005 23:03:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51338BW019994 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 23:03:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3876806nzo for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 20:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr2140020nzu; Tue, 31 May 2005 20:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 20:03:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nFJBsiB1gf9H8GfjApTi5o13B38qiMTldwul85fLL7T7rqa6EqWvgRWZdyB3sdjwaDKel7E+CS0uSCy1WmR+H+5QH3CLHt/1Xie8Nz6dfyCShW+yDlIOF3nFf3XAmV3UZ43Xlq4WBO2hvilbUeiYL3D4n3obyIOHTi/2e1NCnEc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705053120034adf4ba4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 22:03:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Mentioned on the local news... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j51338BW019996 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.seatguru.com/ "Your enlightened guide to airline seating" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 01:39:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j516cmj2017437 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:38:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:39:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00662713@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 2:38:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2190632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 02:38:46 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j516cj9x006066 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 02:38:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j516cixR018656 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:38:44 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j516ciil018654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:38:44 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:38:43 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hookah Message-ID: <20050601063843.GA18504@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 01:40:27PM -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: = Even though I grew up in a college town in the 1960s and 1970s, I was = deliberately oblivious to the drug culture. I certainly didn't and don't = need the drug experience, but sometimes I have trouble figuring out stuff = that goes on here in Ann Arbor. = = I realize that a hookah (synonymous with bong?) is a smoking device. But = what specifically is being smoked? I mean, not some remote theoretical = possibility, but in ordinary use in 2005. = = Larry I would say that a hookah is not synonymous with a bong. The chief differences would be that a bong has an inlet above the waterline so when you uncover it, you clear the smoke quickly and the bong is strictly a one person device. Since Ben says there's legitamate tobacco use being seen I'd believe it, but I'm still tempted to say, hey, it's Ann Arbor, it's dope. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 02:37:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j517b4j2024140 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 02:37:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 02:37:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066276F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 3:37:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2191583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 03:36:59 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j517avwT009845 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 03:36:58 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060109351625615 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:35:16 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:36:56 +0200 Message-ID: <429D6597.1040709@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:36:55 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Euros/update on TCs References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2005 07:36:56.0401 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFF58C10:01C5667C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas skrev 31.05.2005 19:36: >Today, I dumped the remaining Euro TCs at AAA - and learned that, as I was >told by Barcelona natives, TCs are being accepted less and less all over >the European continent. I will probably not use them again. AAA still has >a large banner saying "Accepted Worldwide." Not so. > > This fits in with what I said regarding (Brad) money for the library: checks are not used very much in Notway any more, and that probably goes for much of western Europe. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 02:52:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j517qCj2025715 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 02:52:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 02:52:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9A297@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 3:52:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2191873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 03:52:11 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j517qAFe010821 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 03:52:11 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060109502925759 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:50:29 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:43:35 +0200 Message-ID: <429D6727.8070800@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:43:35 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hookah References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2005 07:43:35.0844 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E0BB640:01C5667D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky skrev 31.05.2005 20:21: >>I realize that a hookah (synonymous with bong?) is a smoking device. But >>what specifically is being smoked? I mean, not some remote theoretical >>possibility, but in ordinary use in 2005. >> >> > >Jodi's old roommate had a hookah; they smoked flavored tobacco. There >are hookah bars in Tampa where you can do the same without owning the >equipment, though I don't know how those places operate. > > I belive that in the Middle East, North Africa and Balkan (yes, they were common in Greece as well a couple of generations ago), you would often own a mouth piece and then order a water pipe and tobacco and plug uour mouth piece in. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 02:52:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j517qCj2025713 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 02:52:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 02:52:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006625CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 3:52:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2191869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 03:52:11 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j517qAEc010822 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 03:52:11 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060109502925758 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:50:29 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:41:32 +0200 Message-ID: <429D66AC.10001@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:41:32 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hookah References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2005 07:41:32.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[548D78F0:01C5667D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum skrev 31.05.2005 19:40: > Even though I grew up in a college town in the 1960s and 1970s, I was > deliberately oblivious to the drug culture. I certainly didn't and don't > need the drug experience, but sometimes I have trouble figuring out stuff > that goes on here in Ann Arbor. > > I realize that a hookah (synonymous with bong?) is a smoking device. But > what specifically is being smoked? I mean, not some remote theoretical > possibility, but in ordinary use in 2005. "Ahookah, the smoking caterpillar ..." The ways this terms are used in Norway, a hookah is not a bong. A hookah is a water-pipe - the name is Indian I guess, but often used for the watr-pipes which can still be seen in tea-houses in the Middle-East and North Africa (and more and more by immigrants in Oslo) while a bong is a special tool for getting as much smoke as possible in one inhalation: a largish pipe, open in both ends, has a chillum or a pipe head attached to it, one end is closed with a hand and the other covers the mouth. You inhale and then release the hand at the end so that all the smoke in the pipe goes into you. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 08:29:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51DTZj2010552 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:29:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 08:29:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00662A33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 9:29:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2203371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:29:35 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51DTYBm005651 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:29:35 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DF0F5CC5464 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:29:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001f01c566ad$d97647b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705053120034adf4ba4@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a050601061045645676@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Mentioned on the local news... Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:28:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: Re: Mentioned on the local news... On 5/31/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > http://www.seatguru.com/ "Your enlightened guide to airline seating" > We used that, or a similar one, to check our seat assignments for the Norway trip. It was helpful. cwv Thanks. I just checked seats I have for next January and found I chose well. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 09:15:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51EFUj2015448 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:15:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:15:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9A937@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:13:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2205858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:13:59 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51EDwqW013100 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:13:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so4165743nzo for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 07:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.5 with SMTP id b5mr2432266nzd; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 07:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 07:13:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NKdRx4xoRgRLWZbFVoLcFAMuuXiIynOgwDSn92nOYpTBsSD5rmMh15PpY8vmyKl2NqnYkC8eTMFQ5X53sac+ZqfyEgnIrLHO6Gq/dHCMZTtME9JxINo89tzhMyAIgXhRgZNdCjovYHZ95aH1JchomEf+MVeWAnUimjyud2ciZpk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506010713424da70a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:13:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: For those of you who know Austin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j51EDxqW013101 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Oasis is gone--struck by lightning, burned down. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 09:15:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51EFUj2015447 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:15:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:15:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9A7B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 9:10:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2201991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:10:16 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51DAFDq002892 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:10:15 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so76265wri for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 06:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.117.4 with SMTP id p4mr3617937wrc; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 06:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:10:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tIE2bOGilHJzL8vFjfaFdFeS3EF4rb8fX6+dWUThO4uTnqvM+Qe20briaXDaupvT3uGJVJvNvB0qWw4jAzEOQiVy15+hI1xYqVV42s7GCwyhKUfoqKFcdFasQ2t3w1ODUbzg1UUSBgfZcb+i/aVGfKTAhrwfGonliZKRlEI5Mkk= Message-ID: <83db447a050601061045645676@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:10:14 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mentioned on the local news... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705053120034adf4ba4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705053120034adf4ba4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j51EFUj2015447 On 5/31/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > http://www.seatguru.com/ "Your enlightened guide to airline seating" > We used that, or a similar one, to check our seat assignments for the Norway trip. It was helpful. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 09:30:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51EUMj2017072 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:30:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:30:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00662CF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:30:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2206794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:30:21 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51EULfr015412 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:30:21 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 22902C3FFEA1 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:30:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Wish Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:29:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j51EUMj2017072 Now that Deep Throat has outed, I'd give just about anything if someone, late in their life, could step forward and tell us what really happened on November 22, 1963. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51Latv9003891 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:36:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00663084@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:01:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2218878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:01:38 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51H1bj2009482 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:01:37 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51H1Y9l1351834 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:01:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:01:34 -0500 (CDT) From: because I can X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506010958299fedb5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <83db447a0506010958299fedb5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.2, Antispam-Data: 2005.6.1.17 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > trust could betray it. Apparently finding Jesus is no help in finding a > clue. hahahahahahhahahahahaha That is so FUNNY and CLEVER and ORIGINAL wheredoyoucomeupwiththistuff you're KILLING me! ha ha ha ha haha From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51Latv9003889 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:36:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066301C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:16:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2215148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:16:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51GGpBK002289 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:16:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so4254372nzo for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.18 with SMTP id h18mr2533436nzc; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:16:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fwHe6578wFkAx7/1bYSTz2XXZPmizNHiYcLdsHpg5U0hxGgt9/J1MA37CvS0MeMKmG06oiF49sQRGQepNC63gn9jd+C/50ZdIR8W4SH8DIKnQ00uF1ApAu0/3TomD1HvM9HHZwoYp99SJOaUqBHCVeWoONJvyXDSjFxDsGcAkd0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060109165cf58e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:16:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j51GGpBK002292 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/1/05, because I can wrote: > > forward and tell us what really happened on > > November 22, 1963. > > Oswald shot Kennedy. > > Read Pozner, fer krissakes. I missed you! I have been thinking about you ever since I read in National Geographic about how Louisiana is sinking into the sea. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51LatvA003891 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:37:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006630FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:19:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2219765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:19:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j51H9E9E010590 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:09:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 35850 invoked by uid 1003); 1 Jun 2005 17:09:14 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:09:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mentioned on the local news... Message-ID: <20050601170914.GB20118@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705053120034adf4ba4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705053120034adf4ba4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 10:03:07PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > http://www.seatguru.com/ "Your enlightened guide to airline seating" * Do you want a seat with extra legroom? A seat with a non-restricted recline? A seat that is extra quiet? * Would you like to compare the First Class, Business Class and Coach Class seat pitch and seat width of different airline carriers? * Are you traveling for business and need to know which airplanes have laptop power at your seat and what type of adapter you'll need? * Have a long flight and want to know what type of in-flight entertainment is featured on your flight and what movies are playing this month? If someone flies so frequently that these are concerns, wouldn't that person have some say anyway? But mostly--and this has little to do with airline seats now--what's with all the micro-detail questions? At one point in my life, this was isolated to a select few assh*les, and only in business meetings long forgotten. Then, slowly, more people began bringing up unbelievably minor "concerns", or bitching about a nickel here and a dime there. Then any damn thing got labelled as an "inconvenience" or "expense", and lately people seem to have gotten actually belligerent about it, fighting dirty for a decimal point, asserting in threatening tones that YES, IT IS IMPORTANT. If your concerns become this petty with one economic downturn, life is sad indeed. (Of course, when I say downturn, I mean it metaphorically. There is no downturn. The economy is fine.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51LatvA003890 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:37:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006630BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:53:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2222665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:53:05 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51Hr45a017074 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:53:04 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 13:53:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 13:52:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Wish Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar? Is that you? >>> rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU 6/1/2005 1:01:34 PM >>> hahahahahahhahahahahaha That is so FUNNY and CLEVER and ORIGINAL wheredoyoucomeupwiththistuff you're KILLING me! ha ha ha ha haha From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51LatvA003889 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:37:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066309C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:47:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2222243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:47:19 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51HlI3J015779 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:47:18 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j51HlCvX012552 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:47:18 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j51HiYcm006351 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:44:39 -0400 Message-ID: <050a01c566d1$9687d710$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <83db447a0506010958299fedb5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Wish Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:43:31 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" On 6/1/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Now that Deep Throat has outed,.. The quote from Charles "I found Jesus right after I was convicted" Colson is revealing---he can't fathom how someone enjoying the administration's trust could betray it. Apparently finding Jesus is no help in finding a clue. cwv Har! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51LatvB003891 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:37:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00663313@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:09:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2223320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:09:04 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j51Hx2La018010 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:59:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 62648 invoked by uid 1003); 1 Jun 2005 17:59:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:59:02 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish Message-ID: <20050601175902.GA61291@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 01:52:37PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Tushar? Is that you? HAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@ > >>> rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU 6/1/2005 1:01:34 PM >>> > > hahahahahahhahahahahaha > > That is so FUNNY and CLEVER and ORIGINAL > > wheredoyoucomeupwiththistuff > > you're KILLING me! > > > ha ha ha ha haha From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51LatvB003890 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:37:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006639D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:21:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2242771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:21:11 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f20.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51LBANB017185 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:11:10 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:11:09 -0700 Received: from 64.4.61.204 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:11:09 GMT Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.204] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:11:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2005 21:11:09.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[6EBD8190:01C566EE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor : >Where did Norman fit in? I was thinking that he was somehow part of >that caravan. [...] >Or was it that Norman was part of your arrival caravan and Brad and John >the departure caravan? I remember that y'all went to Oxford and got >together with Gerald Walton. Good memory. Norman and Gilbert were in the arrival caravan and John Hannum and Brad in the departure. We had dinner with the Waltons - I remember their house as being quite beautiful. I like the idea of a memorial contribution to the Tupelo library. Brad made sure that we added Tupelo to our itinerary and enjoyed showing us Elvis' childhood home, taking us to his grandmother's house there etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51Latv9003888 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:36:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00663112@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:52:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2217410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:52:18 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j51GgI84005894 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:42:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 22157 invoked by uid 1003); 1 Jun 2005 16:42:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:42:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hookah Message-ID: <20050601164217.GA20118@words-l.org> References: <429D66AC.10001@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <429D66AC.10001@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:41:32AM +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: > "Ahookah, the smoking caterpillar ..." > > The ways this terms are used in Norway, a hookah is not a bong. A hookah > is a water-pipe - the name is Indian I guess, but often used for the Etymology: Arabic 'huqqah' ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51LatvA003888 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:37:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006632EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:06:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2223891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:06:08 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51I677d019290 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:06:08 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 54416FEEEC64 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:06:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001201c566d4$7b11c830$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Wish Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:05:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Wish >I guess we all begin to sound alike after a while > > BrP I guess we all begin to sound alike after a while - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51LatvA003892 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:37:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00663105@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:02:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2223490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:02:19 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51I2JQS018515 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:02:19 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:02:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:02:09 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Wish Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I guess we all begin to sound alike after a while BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/1/2005 1:56:21 PM >>> At first I thought it was Dan. On 6/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Tushar? Is that you? > > > >>> rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU 6/1/2005 1:01:34 PM >>> > > hahahahahahhahahahahaha > > That is so FUNNY and CLEVER and ORIGINAL > > wheredoyoucomeupwiththistuff > > you're KILLING me! > > > ha ha ha ha haha > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51Latv9003892 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:36:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00662F7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:01:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2218888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:01:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51H1eJY009496 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:01:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so4289951nzo for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.1 with SMTP id h1mr2560224nzh; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:01:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hXIlZ9UEUlNgSoBWxgDPH903ajBpMdQyhfwctS+uI9SODuCYgT5buiA02kqVhF0BMY8ZWldttgfR/+Sr7vD00NVwnf4SNmJaFtBMZGS4w0IVQFbj2UMjLMIZ6MHGxAWPE+vWHfKI/mMLnMkUC6D7cDMBwOelqa3ptlKxlshmb78= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050601100170f8b674@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:01:40 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506010958299fedb5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <83db447a0506010958299fedb5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j51H1fJY009502 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/1/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 6/1/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Now that Deep Throat has outed,.. > > The quote from Charles "I found Jesus right after I was convicted" Colson > is revealing---he can't fathom how someone enjoying the administration's > trust could betray it. Apparently finding Jesus is no help in finding a > clue. He foreshadows the modern Republican Party. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 16:37:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51Latv9003890 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:36:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:37:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0066307B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:58:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2218632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:58:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51Gw5f3008828 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:58:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so185668wri for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.142.12 with SMTP id p12mr3759643wrd; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:58:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KI0T2byr1ERdygEcCBN2pGCy6/Ktbt70Im1zv3oL5uQ2jaLhRccqDoUWrnlMkH4dxZLBNVRfOlrV5wLo2sFOvDJ0oG4GWU4AfdKCIP0x8uwgX5007NWapZ/s/zEmViICqRwmsp8K6PUMHMZLtmnGTMLscePOpEy34ezjPIgieIY= Message-ID: <83db447a0506010958299fedb5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:58:04 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j51Latv9003890 On 6/1/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Now that Deep Throat has outed,.. The quote from Charles "I found Jesus right after I was convicted" Colson is revealing---he can't fathom how someone enjoying the administration's trust could betray it. Apparently finding Jesus is no help in finding a clue. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 17:00:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51M0Iv9006873 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:00:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:00:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9ADED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:14:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2214975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:14:35 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51GEZuS001944 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:14:35 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51GEUh01274002 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:14:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:14:30 -0500 (CDT) From: because I can X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Message-ID: References: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.2, Antispam-Data: 2005.6.1.15 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > forward and tell us what really happened on > November 22, 1963. Oswald shot Kennedy. Read Pozner, fer krissakes. -- W. Occam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 17:00:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51M0Iv9006876 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:00:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:00:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9B17C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:56:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2222921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:56:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51HuPh6017559 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:56:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so4332071nzo for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.13 with SMTP id g13mr2598184nzg; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:56:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SAqN4Rd686qQzhxE5Ey2ETHb4AdNuUDdHO6qW25Az4fmK7q+VszMYwAEyPWx0xiJoiw1Y8CkbCupNiAyz1LtI5btI1nPrvTsNqpDCSg45RFdsL71g1Jsjade3kVbEYfbrhPFTR5vCccGBGTVRaaQYPkkDYv7vtiFGFk1eVIy8ic= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:56:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j51HuPh6017561 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At first I thought it was Dan. On 6/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Tushar? Is that you? > > > >>> rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU 6/1/2005 1:01:34 PM >>> > > hahahahahahhahahahahaha > > That is so FUNNY and CLEVER and ORIGINAL > > wheredoyoucomeupwiththistuff > > you're KILLING me! > > > ha ha ha ha haha > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 17:01:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j51M0Iv9006875 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:00:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:00:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9B832@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:04:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2235556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:04:32 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51K4UZ2006194 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:04:30 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2005060120054611300q0fcue>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:05:46 +0000 Message-Id: <200506012004.j51K4UZ2006194@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Ithink I may live Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:04:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <1504985826.20050528041350@gailndan.com> thread-index: AcVjbhuRPjtgIUYQS2G43uhyDBY3lQDdtsWA Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan Lester >Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 6:14 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Ithink I may live > >Had the TT revised early Monday morning. And now past most of the >pain and hassles, I think. Still havepain pump and drains, but the >catheter is gone and I'm still wearing the tight "panty girdle". >Thisis first day I've felt fairly sane and together. Naturall I've >gained weight due to all the fluids, both IV on monday and all the >ones I'be been pouring in since then. But this too shall pass and if >all goes well I'll be back in the gym before toooo long. > Another Tummy Tuck. Cool. Must be losing lots of weight. Alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 19:18:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j520Huv9024365 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:17:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 19:18:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00663D2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:05:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2254692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:05:54 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5205oV6004023 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:05:50 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9C185@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:05:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200506020005.j5205oV6004023@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:05:50 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hookah To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:41:32 +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: >The ways this terms are used in Norway, a hookah is not a bong. A hookah >is a water-pipe - the name is Indian I guess, but often used for the >watr-pipes which can still be seen in tea-houses in the Middle-East and >North Africa (and more and more by immigrants in Oslo) while a bong is a >special tool for getting as much smoke as possible in one inhalation: a >largish pipe, open in both ends, has a chillum or a pipe head attached >to it, one end is closed with a hand and the other covers the mouth. You >inhale and then release the hand at the end so that all the smoke in the >pipe goes into you. > >Espen Wow, chillums, man - what a flashback! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 1 23:45:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j524jhv9024614 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:45:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:45:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9C9AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 0:25:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2270238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 00:23:54 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j524ATGU029308 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 00:10:29 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BE1BE8BE for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Pierre-Boulez: Comfort is the worst enemy of art Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:10:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Wish Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:52 AM -0700 6/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Tushar? Is that you? Sheesh. Doesn't any ever look at email addresses anymore? It's our old friend "Straight no chaser", aka "Avogadro's number", aka any number of names that I can never find because my ancient version of Eudora sorts alphabetically by name and I don't have the patience to scroll through to find them. I don't know why he does it, but I assume that it's part of some sort of spam filtering scheme, and more power to him if it works, although he's certainly been caught in my own carbon-based spam filter more than a few times. Or maybe he's in the witness protection program. Ken Miller Alan Smithee School of Onomastics > > >>>> rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU 6/1/2005 1:01:34 PM >>> > >hahahahahahhahahahahaha > >That is so FUNNY and CLEVER and ORIGINAL > >wheredoyoucomeupwiththistuff > >you're KILLING me! > > >ha ha ha ha haha From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 01:53:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j526qwv9008571 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:52:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:53:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006647BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 2:52:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2275998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 02:52:58 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j526qvLb008556 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 02:52:57 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060208511402659 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:51:14 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:52:54 +0200 Message-ID: <429EACC5.5030703@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:52:53 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hookah References: <429D66AC.10001@gmail.com> <20050601164217.GA20118@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050601164217.GA20118@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2005 06:52:54.0353 (UTC) FILETIME=[B396C410:01C5673F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog skrev 01.06.2005 18:42: >On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:41:32AM +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > >>"Ahookah, the smoking caterpillar ..." >> >>The ways this terms are used in Norway, a hookah is not a bong. A hookah >>is a water-pipe - the name is Indian I guess, but often used for the >> >> > >Etymology: Arabic 'huqqah' ... > > > Thank you! Please excuse me for mixing up Indian and Arabic. There was no evil intent. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 05:22:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52AMAv9007856 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 05:22:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 05:22:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00664A01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 6:22:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2281630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:22:09 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52ABwcn023993 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:11:58 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j52ABmjN000898 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:11:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:11:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: archives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Either I no longer have access to the archives or they are simply not available past Tue, 31 May 2005 22:03:07 -0500, the last date I can access. ??? I'm off to LV today - I forgot the temp would be in the 90s! I just checked ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 06:36:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52BZqv9018036 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:35:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:36:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006649A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 7:05:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2255635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 07:05:51 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52B5ovn019347 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 07:05:50 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j52B5naH027393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:05:49 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j52B5mvs027391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:05:48 +0200 From: stevie wonder Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:05:48 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish Message-ID: <20050602110548.GA27381@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:10:15PM -0700, Bookrat wrote: = At 10:52 AM -0700 6/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: = >Tushar? Is that you? = = Or maybe he's in the witness protection program. = Or maybe he just likes a change now and again. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 06:36:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52BZqv9018034 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:35:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:36:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00664A5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 7:08:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2255679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 07:08:01 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52B810M019550 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 07:08:01 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j52B807X027420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:08:00 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j52B80sN027418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:08:00 +0200 From: stevie wonder Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:08:00 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: archives Message-ID: <20050602110800.GB27381@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 06:11:56AM -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: = Either I no longer have access to the archives or they are simply not = available past Tue, 31 May 2005 22:03:07 -0500, the last date I can = access. Maybe it was a hiccough. Looks fine now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 08:31:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52DVNv9002364 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:31:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:31:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9D2A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 9:21:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2262410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:21:23 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52DLCQl005617; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:21:12 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 65774041; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:21:12 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050602062125.026aee50@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:22:20 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: A Friend of Stevie Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: <20050602110548.GA27381@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050602110548.GA27381@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:05 AM 6/2/2005, stevie wonder wrote: >On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:10:15PM -0700, Bookrat wrote: >= At 10:52 AM -0700 6/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >= >Tushar? Is that you? >= >= Or maybe he's in the witness protection program. >= > >Or maybe he just likes a change now and again. Yeah! Variety is everything. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 10:12:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52FC9v9013954 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:12:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 10:12:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9DCD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:02:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2281250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:02:08 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52F24iB025137 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:02:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so339968wra for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.21.22 with SMTP id 22mr603083wru; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:01:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=stQsQJGUua37rMIrtgtfCSX/jhXGLxkusNOBYS42vEJojmDjuyjiXVX6RGROydBRJQQpouYpdF74VoYjgrvhu3wHyH5MT2OfvayTKZBHo+p6fUsUh46Z1qCNMyTTCFko9C7FTIdRYDSdRdSzi/pjz6GjcHu2AOQajdaWdoWegpg= Message-ID: <44dce1c105060208011d49d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:01:28 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j52F25iB025138 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/1/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Now that Deep Throat has outed, I'd give just about > anything if someone, late in their life, could step > forward and tell us what really happened on > November 22, 1963. > > > - D. M. > I came across some newspapers my parents saved from 11/22-11/24/63. I was a bit over 2 years old at the time. They - the newspapers - need a new home. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 10:46:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52FkQv9018434 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:46:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 10:46:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9E061@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:46:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2287527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:46:25 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52FkPSU000423 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:46:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so361849wra for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.150.2 with SMTP id x2mr634120wrd; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:45:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NS5j6bAcOo0oWpV7iKgzb34JpG3Z0xUWXRVzS2n8BI2Rz1KQhx+nsKO3qmYLTP/p5qruzLPaC6OS0Ur1pCDTf19rmLFcd1C3H7gotis0c6GfvSR+0FoEyWpNNvqSOO6HZaFPflDzoFmV4GUR7Tm8XSChDeAuPukT74MQo1tEB6M= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050602084554a005ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:45:47 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Henny Penny 3 lives and lives on... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j52FkPSU000425 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU After making ghost like appearances the past week, HP3 presented herself and 9 new chicks in the flower garden. As we stood around admiring the colorful fuzzies and deciding how to get them into the pen, a nearby rooster decided to seize the moment. He also seized a chick in his beak and was promptly run off by HP3 and her human protectors. The dog crate was retrieved and little fuzzies captured and secured. HP3 was getting edgy with all the excitement. Feathers are up and chicks are chirping. Getting poked by either a rose bush or an excited hen was fast becoming a reality. With the aid of a small stick and a human wall, we managed to herd her toward the cage and her chirping chicks. The crate was moved into the fenced yard. Deciding she liked the comfort of the cage, HP3 set up house. As evening approached, we closed the crate and covered it to keep the wind out and let the other chickens in to roost for the night. After letting the roosters out and letting HP1 and chicks into the fenced yard I opened the crate door. We'll see how they are all doing tonight. HP2, our bad sitter is still sitting. Her chicks are WAYYYY over due. Time to call it. I tried to take some pictures of the 3 week old chicks, but they're a blur. HP3's new chicks can be seen at: http://theresasphotos.fotopic.net/c235663.html I've got to take a better perspective picture to show how really small these birds are. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 11:47:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52GlYv9026374 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:47:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:47:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00665839@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:37:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2291921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:37:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j52GRV62007004 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:27:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 5754 invoked by uid 1003); 2 Jun 2005 16:20:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:20:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hookah Message-ID: <20050602162048.GA2813@words-l.org> References: <429D66AC.10001@gmail.com> <20050601164217.GA20118@words-l.org> <429EACC5.5030703@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <429EACC5.5030703@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 08:52:53AM +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog skrev 01.06.2005 18:42: > >On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:41:32AM +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > > >>"Ahookah, the smoking caterpillar ..." > >> > >>The ways this terms are used in Norway, a hookah is not a bong. A hookah > >>is a water-pipe - the name is Indian I guess, but often used for the > > > > > > > >Etymology: Arabic 'huqqah' ... > > Thank you! Please excuse me for mixing up Indian and Arabic. There was > no evil intent. I can't imagine what could be evil about guessing an etymology. Anyway, I think it's highly likely that the word entered English through India. "Hookah" has always sounded like dorky pronunciation to me ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 11:52:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52Gq9v9027044 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:52:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:52:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006658E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:52:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2294520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:52:09 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52Gq8OX011394 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:52:09 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 65854226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:52:08 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050602095245.02736960@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:53:14 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Henny Penny 3 lives and lives on... In-Reply-To: <44dce1c1050602084554a005ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <44dce1c1050602084554a005ee@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I tried to take some pictures of the 3 week old chicks, but they're a >blur. HP3's new chicks can be seen at: >http://theresasphotos.fotopic.net/c235663.html > >I've got to take a better perspective picture to show how really small >these birds are. > >Terry Oh, all different colors! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 12:22:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52HMav9030843 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:22:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:22:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00665B49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:02:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2296162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:02:35 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52H2X1H013458 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:02:33 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 64960BE8BE; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6000FC2849 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:02:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Ostrovsky sighting: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.infotoday.com/cilmag/jun05/Ostrowsky.shtml Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 13:04:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52I4bv9003590 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:04:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 13:04:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00665C2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:04:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2302754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:04:36 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52I4XBu024197 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:04:33 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9E7E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:04:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200506021804.j52I4XBu024197@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:04:33 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: archives To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm off to LV today - I forgot the temp would be in the 90s! I just >checked ... > >Bethany Yes, it's also a bit cooler than normal here too. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 14:14:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52JDxv9011478 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:14:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:14:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00665F5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:13:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2308225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:13:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52JDwBd003398 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:13:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so588738nzp for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.220.9 with SMTP id s9mr795472nzg; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:13:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=US+62Mpk2e43HLABLFpcs3imyaPAvcmAtg80Qv0I4tunXolaXai5LoxI9qFyrKklDl3jeW1Gly68KEX6cRPjq37EzB473jEnNJAKEom90Y8bPKEIqO8MQ3CQ9r1mWHx7XwRrBKO592OXR+3h+lYv0N+AloKzkQkytcJRTzSbyg4= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:13:57 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Woo-hoo, I'm officially published! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j52JDwBd003399 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.infotoday.com/cilmag/jun05/Ostrowsky.shtml Ben -- The telephone book is full of facts, but it doesn't contain a single idea. -- Mortimer Adler From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 14:16:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52JGZv9011712 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:16:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:16:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9EAC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:16:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2308366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:16:34 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52JGYYE003769 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:16:34 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 100797654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 15:16:45 -0400 Message-ID: <429F5B12.1000804@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 15:16:34 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woo-hoo, I'm officially published! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >http://www.infotoday.com/cilmag/jun05/Ostrowsky.shtml > >Ben > >-- >The telephone book is full of facts, but it doesn't contain a single idea. > -- Mortimer Adler > > Congratulations! But, did you notice that your Publicity Director (Ann Borkin) got this to us two hours ahead of you? Where've you been? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 14:22:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52JMQv9012284 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:22:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:22:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9EABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:22:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2308063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:22:25 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j52JCOcx003075 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:12:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 96205 invoked by uid 1003); 2 Jun 2005 19:12:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:12:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: [saken@email.uky.edu: Memorial service for Brad Grissom] Message-ID: <20050602191223.GA95591@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Since I couldn't tell if anybody else got this: ----- Forwarded message from "Aken, Stephanie" ----- Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:10:49 -0400 From: "Aken, Stephanie" Subject: Memorial service for Brad Grissom Greetings - I am organizing a memorial service for Brad Grissom, tentative date July 7 @5pm. I am trying to find friends who represent different facets of his life over the years, and I wanted to know if someone could post a request on Words-L to enlist a speaker/writer who would be willing to speak/write about bog and his Words-L involvement - 5-10 mins.' worth of material. If the individual could not attend but would be willing to send me text, I can find a reader. I was close to Brad when Words-L was probably the main reason he came to work each day, so such a tribute would be greatly appreciated. I remember some names that Brad routinely mentioned, but I wasn't sure who I should contact. Please forward as necessary. Thank you for you help in remembering Brad, Stephanie Nicely (Allen) Aken, Electronic Resources Coordinator, University of Kentucky Libraries William T. Young Library University of Kentucky 500 S. Limestone Lexington, KY 40506-0456 phone: (859) 257-0500, ext. 2050 fax: (859) 257-0508 saken@email.uky.edu ----- End forwarded message ----- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 14:24:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52JOAv9012448 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:24:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:24:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00F9EB14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:24:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2309007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:24:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52JO8Ku004986 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:24:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so594132nzp for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.5.8 with SMTP id 8mr810269nze; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:24:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FsDmE4E31TumQcU0W7eymw+7ogAJP9J3AcYYxKp5UUsRmFg1XyX3ba57ht4/ROnOelYuiOkpjA+Xg5u/P+/biPcExB1ZB1SAe5P+bOqO8hRxbr5TVdNL7PhANr237wH2QYoMPrJVwUO7QQ7DDJ38W3VjdmbNRQlhndP7zbGoGBY= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:24:08 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ostrovsky sighting: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j52JO9Ku004988 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://www.infotoday.com/cilmag/jun05/Ostrowsky.shtml Praise be to La Borkina! (I was vacuuming the car when you sent this. Thanks!) Ben June 2nd's Library Link of the Day From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 14:29:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52JT8v9013059 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:29:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:29:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9EB37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:29:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2309490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:29:08 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52JT8Lw005814 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:29:08 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.174.73]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050602192907.EHLK16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:29:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.174.73]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050602192906.FBUS4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:29:06 -0400 Message-ID: <429F5E00.1080300@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:29:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: BIA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just turned on mail, so y'all can be interesting again, though it will be hours before I have any time to read your interestingness. I'm happy to report that in spite of almost constant rain I found the graves I was looking for. Spencer is now home from boarding, and all's right with the world. I took my laptop on the trip, btw, and found a coupon in the discount booklet I picked up at the state line for an EconoLodge in Opelika with free wireless so-called high-speed internet access. I did manage to connect from my room but couldn't do anything because it was so horribly slow. I thought maybe it was the bad signal strength (strength of two out of five). But I tried it in the motel lobby, where the signal strength was five out of five, and found that it was still horrendously slow. I guess it would be asking too much for a seedy little motel that cost $30something a night to be really high speed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 14:32:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j52JWZv9013538 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:32:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:32:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00F9EB21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:32:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2309783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:32:34 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j52JWYXI006372 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:32:34 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.174.73]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050602193234.EMKK16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:32:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.174.73]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050602193233.FDFU4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:32:33 -0400 Message-ID: <429F5ECE.7070706@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:32:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: PS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Upon my return a little while ago I found your check, Rita, and your bundle of four checks, Pete. As I think I've said before, I {heart} my mail-slot. It's nice finding mail plopped on the livingroom floor when returning from a trip. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 20:38:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j531cfv9021127 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:38:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:38:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00F9FC08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:08:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2340321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:08:40 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5318dI6015403 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:08:39 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5318be1019082 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:08:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <429FAD9A.7090403@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:08:42 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: In memoriam to my pup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wagster, our pup who was just about to have his first birthday, passed away on Tuesday when he was run over by a pickup truck. I put up a photo of him on my blog at http://www.gtoal.com. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 22:16:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j533GKv9032582 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:16:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 22:16:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA0193@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 23:16:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2352321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 23:16:20 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j533GJ3H030786 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 23:16:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA772B689 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050602062125.026aee50@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <20050602110548.GA27381@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050602110548.GA27381@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Pierre-Boulez: Comfort is the worst enemy of art Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:16:10 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: A Friend of a Friend of the Devil Subject: Re: Wish Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 6:22 AM -0700 6/2/05, A Friend of Stevie wrote: >At 04:05 AM 6/2/2005, stevie wonder wrote: >>On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 09:10:15PM -0700, Bookrat wrote: >>= At 10:52 AM -0700 6/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >>= >Tushar? Is that you? >>= >>= Or maybe he's in the witness protection program. >>= >> >>Or maybe he just likes a change now and again. > >Yeah! Variety is everything. But constancy is the foundation of virtue. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 23:41:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j534fEv9009617 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 23:41:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 23:41:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006673C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 0:41:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2359392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 00:41:14 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j534fD3D006054 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 00:41:13 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 21766983 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 21:48:15 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.224.49]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:41:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:41:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 217, in=89253, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/27/2005, 11:39 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> I let Myles know. They have always kept in >> touch, too. AFoA> Do we know what he died of? Didn't the clipping say something like "died suddenly at home"? That's very frequently an euphemism for the topic no one wants to think or talk about. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 2 23:48:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j534mGv9010269 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 23:48:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 23:48:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA0590@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 0:48:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2359556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 00:48:16 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j534mFkX006533 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 00:48:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21563554 for ; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 22:09:07 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.224.49]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:48:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:48:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <789553499.20050602224814@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <4297A70F.8090001@maynor.net> References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <4297A70F.8090001@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 216, in=76728, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/27/2005, 5:02 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> That sign, on top of the dark skies and rain, gave NM> me the willies. AND NM> THAT IS THE CHURCH THAT HIS FAMILY -- *MY* ANCESTRAL NM> FAMILY -- GAVE THE NM> LAND FOR! It was from family members who had your RRB's genes instead of yours. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 02:37:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j537asv9028940 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 02:36:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 02:37:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA08BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 3:36:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2366308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 03:36:54 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j537ar2N020321 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 03:36:53 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j537aqBb001210 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:36:52 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j537aqq0001208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:36:52 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:36:52 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom Message-ID: <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 10:41:11PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: = 5/27/2005, 11:39 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: = = >> I let Myles know. They have always kept in = >> touch, too. = = AFoA> Do we know what he died of? = = Didn't the clipping say something like "died suddenly at home"? = That's very frequently an euphemism for the topic no one wants to = think or talk about. Natalie spoke with Brad's sister. Heart attack, after a period of withdrawal from life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 06:13:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53BDqv9027502 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 06:13:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 06:13:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006677FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 7:13:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2370902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:13:51 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j53BDodh027297 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:13:50 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060313120904547 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:12:09 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:13:48 +0200 Message-ID: <42A03B6C.10308@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:13:48 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woo-hoo, I'm officially published! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2005 11:13:48.0805 (UTC) FILETIME=[50C85350:01C5682D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky skrev 02.06.2005 21:13: >http://www.infotoday.com/cilmag/jun05/Ostrowsky.shtml > >Ben > >-- >The telephone book is full of facts, but it doesn't contain a single idea. > -- Mortimer Adler > > > Congratulations! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 06:29:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53BTjv9029330 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 06:29:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 06:29:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066782A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 7:19:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2371178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:19:44 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53BJiJl027859 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:19:44 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.195]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603111944.EWDL13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:19:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.195]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603111944.PKFA25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:19:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42A03CCC.5020505@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 06:19:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In memoriam to my pup References: <429FAD9A.7090403@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <429FAD9A.7090403@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anne Toal wrote: > Wagster, our pup who was just about to have his first birthday, passed > away on Tuesday when he was run over by a pickup truck. I put up a photo > of him on my blog at http://www.gtoal.com. The news is very sad, but that picture of him is wonderful. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 06:48:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53Bm5v9031551 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 06:48:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 06:48:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA0B98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 7:48:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2372020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:48:05 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j53Bm4W9030479 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:48:05 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060313462304819 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:46:23 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:48:03 +0200 Message-ID: <42A04372.2000502@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:48:02 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In memoriam to my pup References: <429FAD9A.7090403@gmail.com> <42A03CCC.5020505@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A03CCC.5020505@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2005 11:48:03.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[1938E620:01C56832] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 03.06.2005 13:19: > Anne Toal wrote: > >> Wagster, our pup who was just about to have his first birthday, passed >> away on Tuesday when he was run over by a pickup truck. I put up a photo >> of him on my blog at http://www.gtoal.com. > > > The news is very sad, but that picture of him is wonderful. Natalie wrote it better than I could. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 07:18:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53CImv9002683 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:18:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:18:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA0C4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 8:18:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2373319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:18:47 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53CIluV002035 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:18:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so799127wra for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.68 with SMTP id 68mr1189228wrc; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 05:17:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fjnwoJG11BLR0AJay/ZDweGqh5T3yXEO/a9o3VlnQUWXFI+tQgFohrsIygK3MIngugU8YDzeHTpN9KOVExvFmW9SNpx8EWLi600Ydt9UKovxpHnykJ5kmg8Qx2FZBGnTKJP78AEehEXSlN3NHU5P5LvYozuOzK/6yHtyCvX5YrY= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:17:48 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j53CImv9002683 > = Didn't the clipping say something like "died suddenly at home"? > = That's very frequently an euphemism for the topic no one wants to > = think or talk about. --Dan > > Natalie spoke with Brad's sister. Heart attack, after a period of > withdrawal from life. --steph > With emphysema and hardening of the arteries. This is the second wordsler who died suddenly at home. Giggles died in his sleep. It would be nice if none of lingered in a nursing home for years. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 08:15:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53DF4v9009581 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:15:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:15:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA0E87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 9:15:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2377976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:15:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53DF3vC011518 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:15:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so973797nzp for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 06:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.25.20 with SMTP id 20mr1339406nzy; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 06:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 06:15:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=HpaxA6QKo2DoLzNBux+LqhOMtFRYvx547KStohJ6qykFgCdOTmWfXB/ClDvn2j7bQordoLnExksftVvf3YG3Tsh7JNHaMmpWphCED5wiP4hu2/G6h93QXRaoHdc5T91gLcTzc/ynn6qlM6bOJ/+vtiSkGY442AmRAqYWkV3egro= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:15:01 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Trumping La Borkina Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j53DF4vC011519 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm on Slashdot! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 08:36:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53DaOv9011839 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:36:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:36:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00667B99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 9:36:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2378848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:36:23 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53DQNvZ013485 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:26:23 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j53DQE2q025062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:26:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:26:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: archives ok Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At least in LV. Natalie, have we decided to whom Bradchecks should be written and where they should be mailed? I can mail one on June 7. Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 08:42:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53DgTv9012666 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:42:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:42:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA0F6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 9:42:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2379955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:42:28 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53DgSKq015995 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:42:28 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2005060313434711300q09lae>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:43:47 +0000 Message-Id: <200506031342.j53DgSKq015995@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: In memoriam to my pup Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:42:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <429FAD9A.7090403@gmail.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVn2PWKVyfJVfiRRpWwjrdRcsNSNQAaPbGw Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Anne Toal >Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:09 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: In memoriam to my pup > >Wagster, our pup who was just about to have his first birthday, passed >away on Tuesday when he was run over by a pickup truck. I put >up a photo of him on my blog at http://www.gtoal.com. > >-aht > Damn! I am so sorry . Alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 09:34:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53EYWv9019859 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:34:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 09:34:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA1163@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:24:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2385058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:24:30 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53EO7QY024630 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:24:07 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050603142404014004u52fe>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:24:04 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: In memoriam to my pup Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:24:01 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42A03CCC.5020505@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The news is very sad, but that picture of him is wonderful. Yes. Sorry for your loss, Anne & Graham. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 10:20:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53FKBv9025574 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:20:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:20:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA167B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:10:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2393530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:10:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53FA929032328 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:10:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so932705nzo for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.18 with SMTP id w18mr1180932nzg; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:10:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q8obgSB7MkwhipZrE2ihoHKi5P3++xBIVc/XtunalT0sw0FkcKUM8R2EgLHVU+GN2EcyMNS8ZB73sOzb2JB2u2rDO8uryYhX6i+WbpDorIM0kfXx3PadgHMOFuOuUWADXdhqd36s3bWyuAYArwj5U4idDs0w4ezQj4HXy+J663Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:10:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j53FAA29032332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/3/05, bonniemaev wrote: > With emphysema and hardening of the arteries. This is the second wordsler > who died suddenly at home. Giggles died in his sleep. It would be nice if > none of lingered in a nursing home for years. Giggles, Alyce, and Brad all died at home. What about... I can't remember his name. The guy who was with us for a short time and had great art. Was he at home or in a nursing home? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 10:31:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53FVOv9026959 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:31:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:31:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA171D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:25:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2394864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:25:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53FPLtw002254 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:25:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1142747wri for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.8 with SMTP id p8mr1181451wra; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.15 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:25:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dT1wMJw9JdIP72vOTPvqkTyILGesO5O2asTyM0rPlexi7LusuBP71G15hac2GM41SSiBySuSsO7mQQsnKI8ActD/hPXYw0fvuDdYRumN9wJ8eKCegL0zOc1yhFm97aXs8UZuyP5nnVTFgA3R3KEHCMx+eO56/DSEL2zIbVeiDhA= Message-ID: <66c4488d050603082577148cf4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:25:21 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: Anne Toal To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trumping La Borkina In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j53FPLtw002255 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU OMG! L337!!! On 6/3/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > I'm on Slashdot! > > Ben > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 10:31:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53FVOv9026957 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:31:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:31:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA16E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:21:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2394394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:21:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53FLL6H001530 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:21:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so335586wra for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.55 with SMTP id z55mr667105wrz; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.15 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:21:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GE4+1bQ693HSf6We862ZIieXxWvCG0Lfh1/IaptSX3MUGgaEu9C7fn48up3tS/AoVg63A1uuM85vRVI0Wdc3nMRvAdkQRtuws3bbeuXEUlcJEpzMe9BhIxjJlcg0gNp2kYM9CnkWshX1E7AtctXI5B0MMq+/8kvXm+Mdbr8J8sM= Message-ID: <66c4488d05060308212b57bae8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:21:21 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: Anne Toal To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In memoriam to my pup In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A03CCC.5020505@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j53FLL6H001532 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who sent sympathy notes, both on list and privately. Words-L has always been a group of people who know how to show they care. Your kind words are greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Anne From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 12:27:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53HRYv9008272 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:27:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 12:27:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00668863@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:27:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2408378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:27:28 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53HRMp3021821 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:27:22 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA1DFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:27:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200506031727.j53HRMp3021821@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:27:22 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: [saken@email.uky.edu: Memorial service for Brad Grissom] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is anyone here thinking about attending Brad's Kentucky memorial service? Amy *********************************** >Greetings - > >I am organizing a memorial service for Brad Grissom, tentative date July >7 @5pm. I am trying to find friends who represent different facets of >his life over the years, and I wanted to know if someone could post a >request on Words-L to enlist a speaker/writer who would be willing to >speak/write about bog and his Words-L involvement - 5-10 mins.' worth of >material. If the individual could not attend but would be willing to >send me text, I can find a reader. I was close to Brad when Words-L was >probably the main reason he came to work each day, so such a tribute >would be greatly appreciated. I remember some names that Brad >routinely mentioned, but I wasn't sure who I should contact. Please >forward as necessary. > >Thank you for you help in remembering Brad, > >Stephanie Nicely (Allen) Aken, Electronic Resources Coordinator, >University of Kentucky Libraries >William T. Young Library >University of Kentucky >500 S. Limestone >Lexington, KY 40506-0456 >phone: (859) 257-0500, ext. 2050 >fax: (859) 257-0508 >saken@email.uky.edu From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 12:40:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53Hekv9009798 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:40:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 12:40:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA1E4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:40:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2409018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:40:45 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53Hejb1023792 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:40:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so1126611nzp for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.64 with SMTP id u64mr1480566nzg; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Q3jVMOUQ7WLC/WLWl+qPs1sv1ZTILI5q6x3wlOz8ULVvhLVA5P/1XyEjq2W46tSpHQLRocN5wJ77EuiZveO74xx8OD0QoPyMn4xth76yRH8D88/0fbVAuqLt64sHY4i9Eiw5T+tJsu66jYKf6Ij63i79GFjPresyR91lv6cRC2s= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:40:44 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [saken@email.uky.edu: Memorial service for Brad Grissom] In-Reply-To: <200506031727.j53HRMp3021821@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506031727.j53HRMp3021821@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j53Hejb1023794 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Is anyone here thinking about attending Brad's Kentucky memorial service? I say we show up at random intervals and ask mourners how many egg slots their refrigerators have. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 13:14:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53IEjv9013192 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:14:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:14:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA1F24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:54:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2410134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:54:45 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53HshVR025863 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:54:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA1F10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:54:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200506031754.j53HshVR025863@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:54:43 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: [saken@email.uky.edu: Memorial service for Brad Grissom] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:40:44 -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> Is anyone here thinking about attending Brad's Kentucky memorial service? > >I say we show up at random intervals and ask mourners how many egg >slots their refrigerators have. > >Ben ... and it may well be that some there would know what we were talking about ... Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 15:19:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53KJFv9027561 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:19:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:19:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA2468@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:19:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2421084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:19:15 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53KJ7kH017363 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:19:07 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA2467@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:19:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200506032019.j53KJ7kH017363@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:19:07 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: In memoriam to my pup To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:08:42 -0500, Anne Toal wrote: >Wagster, our pup who was just about to have his first birthday, passed >away on Tuesday when he was run over by a pickup truck. I put up a photo >of him on my blog at http://www.gtoal.com. > >-aht Anne, I am so sorry to hear about Wagster! I can sense what a shock it was, and I know he'll be sorely missed. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 15:54:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53Ksbv9031773 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:54:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:54:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA2531@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:54:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2423422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:54:36 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53Ksaog022282 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:54:36 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j53KsYRc017444 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:54:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:54:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [saken@email.uky.edu: Memorial service for Brad Grissom] In-Reply-To: <200506031727.j53HRMp3021821@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200506031727.j53HRMp3021821@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Mrs. Williams wrote: > Is anyone here thinking about attending Brad's Kentucky memorial service? I am strongly tempted, but it may not be feasible. I'll look into it. (Hmmm, July 7 is a Thursday...) We routinely make the four hour trip to northern Kentucky; Lexington would be another hour-plus, I think. It would be kind of cool to be the messenger of tributes from Wordslers. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:22:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53LMLv9002126 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:22:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:22:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00668DF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:22:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2426335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:22:21 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53LMKjL026552 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:22:20 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603212218.EVXE28885.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:22:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603212217.ODLK2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:22:17 -0400 Message-ID: <42A0CA03.4070900@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:22:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: More Wordslers Checks Arrived Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Checks from mem and from Anne Toal and Espen via Pete just arrived. And I got e-mail from Hope Dondero, who was looking at the archives and is going to send a check. So the fund continues to grow. Bonnie: How long did you wait before sending the ArtSpace gift for Giggles? I figure there's no big hurry -- that we can wait for contributions to trickle in for a good while, though I think it shouldn't be any later than the end of June (which means really before the end of June since I'll be leaving for FingerFest before the end of June). When I do send the checks, should I just say from Words-L, or should I list names? (The names will be on the checks -- including those through Pete since he is writing separate checks with the name of the giver on the memo line. But I'm wondering if people want individual receipts from the library.) And thank you, Adam, for sending me the info on the memorial service in Lexington. I'm hoping to be able to twist abht's arm into being the (or a) writer of a Words-L tribute since not only has she known Brad as long as any of us have, she also has a wonderful . She could write on a topic I personally find the most boring in the world, and I'd read every word. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:24:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53LOpv9002380 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:24:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:24:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA26DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:24:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2426451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:24:50 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53LOonR026797 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:24:50 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603212442.EZOI28885.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:24:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603212441.OELY2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:24:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42A0CA97.3080407@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:24:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >W This is the second wordsler >who died suddenly at home. Giggles died in his sleep. It would be nice if >none of lingered in a nursing home for years. > > I wonder what the end of Bill Holler's life was like. I know he was in a nursing home, and then suddenly a xmas card I sent him came back with "addressee unknown." And remember poor Whatshername -- the person who had a stroke too young and was in a nursing home for some length of time. I think maybe I also figured she had died when something I mailed was returned, though I can't remember that for sure. And why am I blanking on her name? Julie?? Something like that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:25:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53LPev9002512 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:25:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:25:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA26E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:25:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2426515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:25:40 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53LPdVb026997 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:25:39 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603212539.FAWV28885.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:25:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603212538.OEVV2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:25:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42A0CAD0.8020609@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:25:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: archives ok References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Natalie, have we decided to whom Bradchecks should be written and where >they should be mailed? I can mail one on June 7. > > Written to the Lee County Library. Mailed to Natalie Maynor 3715 Greenwich St. Jackson, MS 39216 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:28:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53LRtv9002863 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:27:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:28:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA26B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:27:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2426591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:27:55 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53LRspr027220 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:27:54 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603212754.FEHS28885.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:27:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603212754.OFSD2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:27:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42A0CB57.9080902@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:27:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Giggles, Alyce, and Brad all died at home. What about... I can't >remember his name. The guy who was with us for a short time and had >great art. Was he at home or in a nursing home? > > Bill Holler? He lived in a nursing home at the end of his life, but I'm not sure how long. And then there was -- I'm blanking again -- the person we found out not long ago had died -- the young person with some kind of congenital health problems -- he was at TheParty(tm) and maybe some other list events. The short name -- like initials -- not JJ. Why is my brain dying? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:39:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53Ld4v9004152 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:39:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:39:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00668D08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:29:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2426651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:29:03 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53LT2tf027337 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:29:02 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA2709@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:29:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200506032129.j53LT2tf027337@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:29:01 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: More Wordslers Checks Arrived To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:22:11 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Checks from mem and from Anne Toal and Espen via Pete just arrived. And >I got e-mail from Hope Dondero, who was looking at the archives and is >going to send a check. So the fund continues to grow. It would be quite convenient for us if you could pick up checks at Finger-L-Fest to add to the pile. If it needs to be sooner, let me know and I will send. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:40:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53LeOv9004276 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:40:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:40:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA2709@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:30:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2426796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:30:23 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53LUNZk027581 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:30:23 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603213023.FIBJ28885.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:30:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603213022.OGQE2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:30:22 -0400 Message-ID: <42A0CBEC.3000709@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:30:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [saken@email.uky.edu: Memorial service for Brad Grissom] References: <200506031727.j53HRMp3021821@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>Is anyone here thinking about attending Brad's Kentucky memorial service? >> >> >I say we show up at random intervals and ask mourners how many egg >slots their refrigerators have. > > I've been thinking about it ever since getting the info. I'll be leaving Syracuse on July 5 and could swing by Lexington on the way home, though I'd need to do some rearranging of things like Spencer's boarding reservation and a haircut appointment I have on July 8. The morning of July 7 would be much easier to work with than 5 p.m. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:40:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53LeOv9004277 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:40:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:40:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA2725@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:32:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2426860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:32:31 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53LWVCZ027781 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:32:31 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so997565wra for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr1511296wrd; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:32:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qNqwkVmuTbgSUGVQnV02PGvNdP0vZVqq6fc/Q8TLmsfN0dhabbxpuz57bq0S6+3/HXib74pCO7ejSuAWUMbCCArmwXiYXNZvd2NQjD1aFx9wqYR3AFbt+dPAcZ/j+JsXFYZZ4o2NLTH/ZaPIjhWYh3ioPi6/1wFB/Vy4DfAW+0c= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:32:30 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Wordslers Checks Arrived In-Reply-To: <42A0CA03.4070900@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A0CA03.4070900@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j53LeOv9004277 > > Bonnie: How long did you wait before sending the ArtSpace gift for > Giggles? I figure there's no big hurry -- that we can wait for > contributions to trickle in for a good while, -- Natalie > I don't remember. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:45:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53LjUv9004795 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:45:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:45:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA2736@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:45:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2427145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:45:30 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53LjTxq028999 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:45:29 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603214529.PEFZ16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:45:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603214529.WTJT4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:45:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42A0CF76.6050905@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:45:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [saken@email.uky.edu: Memorial service for Brad Grissom] References: <200506031727.j53HRMp3021821@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > It would be kind of cool to be the messenger of tributes from Wordslers. You should do it!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:47:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53Lktv9004993 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:46:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:47:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00668EF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:46:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2427190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:46:54 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53LkfBT029131 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:46:42 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603214641.PFUQ16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:46:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603214641.WTTW4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:46:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42A0CFBE.3070309@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:46:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Wordslers Checks Arrived References: <200506032129.j53LT2tf027337@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506032129.j53LT2tf027337@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >It would be quite convenient for us if you could pick up checks at >Finger-L-Fest to add to the pile. If it needs to be sooner, let me >know and I will send. > > What do y'all think? I don't guess there's any particular rush. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:47:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53LlZv9005109 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:47:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:47:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA275B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:47:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2427256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:47:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53LlYql029270 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:47:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1117372nzo for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr1328787nzd; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:47:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=acBvTTISlKHj4FxSzt3BxdqR+GmnFb+PZM5QRo9v/hWsfRq987l8t5sKUfSO9ivR47slTKcvbXx8cGEiRLtfjsghlyZ0WqCfwLE6hvfGIB33WkrziOMB1jVo25nYs3QL55qy26AIW6LHHlqyNJ+HPbKbmuVEQePEzf7hcnczhEs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506031447655de144@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:47:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <42A0CB57.9080902@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <42A0CB57.9080902@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j53LlYql029271 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/3/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >Giggles, Alyce, and Brad all died at home. What about... I can't > >remember his name. The guy who was with us for a short time and had > >great art. Was he at home or in a nursing home? > > > > > Bill Holler? He lived in a nursing home at the end of his life, but I'm > not sure how long. > > And then there was -- I'm blanking again -- the person we found out not > long ago had died -- the young person with some kind of congenital > health problems -- he was at TheParty(tm) and maybe some other list > events. The short name -- like initials -- not JJ. Why is my brain dying? Rich H From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 16:53:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53Lrbv9006104 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:53:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:53:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA2728@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:53:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2427514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:53:36 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53Lra8H030078 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:53:36 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603215336.PPLD16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:53:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603215336.WWHM4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:53:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42A0D15D.9040804@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:53:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Pictures etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I sent e-mail to the coordinator of Brad's memorial service, saying that I wasn't sure whether anybody else had already sent word to her and wanted to make sure she knew that something/somebody from Words-L would definitely be forthcoming. I'm glad I wrote her since she said she hadn't heard from anybody and was worried that maybe she had used a dead e-mail address and that maybe Words-L didn't even exist anymore. She said this, which I'm forwarding without permission, feeling confident that it's ok with her: > I'm also trying to collect pictures, correspondence, etc. for a > tabletop display at the service. I can print out the pictures from > your website from the gatherings he attended and use those, but second > copies of other special pics would also be greatly welcomed. It's too bad the old list gallery vanished. What pictures of Brad are in the current pages? And do any of you have any other pictures or whatever for the display? Since her e-mail address has already been posted, I trust that it's ok to post it again in case any of you have pictures to e-mail her: saken@email.uky.edu. Her name is Stephanie. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 17:31:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53MVRv9009968 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:31:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:31:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA27C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:18:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2428798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:18:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53MIT7j032534 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:18:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1128265nzo for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.19 with SMTP id w19mr1288323nzg; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:18:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=RYparhHT2HjqQi1/gbHVIZ9h5E5fQ1nQmLiWtf+/BBhlohBssN+blUMaqFjdFHQNnEFgsZekgrtJ+L3f5rVBMuvOMs7kUqOwWBNCPlTfJPowWnPugIVZMCkkbDBEutQA4WZi19J2wEqcRXVg4ZVXg4vWd3oIojH1xqIiCajAcOw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050603151849edfdfa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:18:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: For Adam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j53MIT7j032535 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Go to http://bettysoo.com/, follow the sonicbids link to the music and listen to the samples. Do you like this? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 17:31:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53MVRv9009969 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:31:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:31:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA279F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:11:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2428472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:11:26 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53MBQXQ031836 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:11:26 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603221126.QKSS16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:11:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603221125.XCEJ4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:11:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42A0D58B.4060802@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:11:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Life in the Bible Belt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When I first settled into my seedy little motel room, fearing that the pouring rain would never cease, thus making me unable to take pictures of graves, I exercised my camera by taking pictures of the Bible I found in the room: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Opelika/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 17:37:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j53Mb0v9010488 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:37:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:37:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA2864@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:37:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2429386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:37:00 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j53Mb0bQ001746 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:37:00 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603223700.RMIF16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:37:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050603223659.XKCK4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:36:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42A0DB88.5070002@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:36:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <42A0CB57.9080902@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506031447655de144@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506031447655de144@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>And then there was -- I'm blanking again -- the person we found out not >>long ago had died -- the young person with some kind of congenital >>health problems -- he was at TheParty(tm) and maybe some other list >>events. The short name -- like initials -- not JJ. Why is my brain dying? >> >> >Rich H > > Yes! It was on the tip of my brain but wouldn't spring loose. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 19:20:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j540KJv9021163 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:20:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:20:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA2B3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:20:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2436079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:20:18 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j540KIN6014335 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:20:18 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1436616wri for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.115.3 with SMTP id n3mr1560620wrc; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:20:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gk1GDkOh+Es7ubphJQRU/EBBT8SAUoemRpm6GmDcj+XrlRHNhkNZTnCOaXMdYn1vt2oYNfFYwQaI4ic6B3JOezNdke8Gerwp7dX8kbaxlXuOwuF7Fqp/Z62NRo+CbDnNHY4Q5LnVp6idrCLmbxqteTzAUxmRry74FXuVnyrdUvQ= Message-ID: <83db447a0506031720244e6102@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:20:17 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Life in the Bible Belt In-Reply-To: <42A0D58B.4060802@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A0D58B.4060802@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j540KJv9021163 On 6/3/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > When I first settled into my seedy little motel room, fearing that the > pouring rain would never cease, thus making me unable to take pictures > of graves, I exercised my camera by taking pictures of the Bible I found > in the room: > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Opelika/ > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 19:22:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j540Lwv9021352 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:21:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:22:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA2B93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:21:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2436137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:21:57 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j540LveO014523 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:21:57 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so456711wra for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.30.54 with SMTP id d54mr1547928wrd; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:21:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XiXIg1CTvDbsov1wu+eqGVccfMDV48+VsqUuoXSkncE7gBkCyAVFhzit2QaKXFNvwmJwyK41CxPyX0P5gtw81HPb0itW7dNtVU+fL3l9I8+I4Ok9Lo7fEVYEpRNZwfCrRNkjDQ+de8B1y4cWHfvCrgOs+4YX+HtmcWvLigwbrss= Message-ID: <83db447a050603172119ee7890@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:21:56 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Life in the Bible Belt In-Reply-To: <42A0D58B.4060802@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A0D58B.4060802@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j540Lwv9021352 On 6/3/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > When I first settled into my seedy little motel room, fearing that the > pouring rain would never cease, thus making me unable to take pictures > of graves, I exercised my camera by taking pictures of the Bible I found > in the room: > Was there also a copy of The Golden Bough? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 19:35:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j540ZZv9022750 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:35:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:35:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA2B67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:35:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2436461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:35:35 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j540ZY8J015789 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:35:34 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so459318wra for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.13.66 with SMTP id 66mr1556063wrm; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.46 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:35:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Gz4t1AYuM2xpxcz0IsW68bU4ndnKyoFMZdD8xawZP5XI7AYSvMfucQw8OGC9DmFGwyK3224zVVZXYhEnvPru6yUDSPzbVgKymVSll/zfzlwJ31+szAsukc2bCavNASgaEZzxg1qsvUz5Gze7rlv+LET6ho+2n+29i1Qq2MjIiTA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:35:34 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In memoriam to my pup In-Reply-To: <429FAD9A.7090403@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <429FAD9A.7090403@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j540ZY8J015790 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Laszlo and I send our condolences. Wagster looks like a great pup. So sorry. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 19:44:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j540iXv9023810 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:44:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:44:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA2BAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:44:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2436563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:44:33 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j540iWYT016535 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:44:32 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050604004431014004u6rue>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 00:44:32 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: For Adam Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:44:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050603151849edfdfa@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Go to http://bettysoo.com/, follow the sonicbids link to the music and > listen to the samples. Do you like this? Yes. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 3 20:26:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j541Q9v9028483 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:26:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:26:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA2BF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:16:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2437140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:16:08 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j541G8Tw021405 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:16:08 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.220]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050604011608.CIKL13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:16:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.220]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050604011607.BXWE25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:16:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42A100D4.4060005@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:16:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Gardenias Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hate gardenias and am happy that their season is almost over. The reason I hate them is the association with piano recitals, which I always hated. I hated the prickly net evening dresses and hated the gardenia pinned on me from the bush outside my bedroom window. The two things that spoiled the joy of late May were piano recitals and shots. What do little girls wear to their piano recitals now? Surely not long, prickly evening dresses. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 07:17:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54CHav9014411 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 07:17:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 07:17:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006699AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 8:17:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2457971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:17:01 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54CH05Z030141 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:17:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22005513 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 05:53:53 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 05:17:18 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:16:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1024794412.20050604061654@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Natalie's Paypal Question In-Reply-To: References: <4297C4C9.6000203@maynor.net> <4622719505052719145f9743dc@mail.gmail.com> <4297E7CF.5070107@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 214, in=79048, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/27/2005, 9:51 PM, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: LK> Writing LK> and mailing checks is LK> enormously more hassle. I too do paypal. However, for my small purchases (less than ten bucks or so) I just mail cash if they don't take paypal. Since most of what I buy are under that amount (postcards of libraries) I've done hundreds of cash payments that way and only been burned once, for six bucks by some idiot in Melbourne (in OZ, not FL). Even with that, I'm still ahead compared to what the checks would have cost. I realize that with business operations you may not find cash an acceptable option....or your accountant may not. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 07:19:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54CJgv9014676 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 07:19:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 07:19:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA35D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 8:19:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2458081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:19:42 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54CJcQS030402 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:19:38 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA3621@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 8:19:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200506041219.j54CJcQS030402@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:19:38 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Life in the Bible Belt To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:11:23 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >When I first settled into my seedy little motel room, fearing that the >pouring rain would never cease, thus making me unable to take pictures >of graves, I exercised my camera by taking pictures of the Bible I found >in the room: > >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Opelika/ > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) we have a show on the local Cable access channel that is quotes from various versions of the Bible, purporting to prove that one version (in particular) is the work of Satan, that all others are also Satanic except for the KJV in some specific format. Looks like our TV guy has been in your hotel room! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 07:23:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54CNVv9015151 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 07:23:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 07:23:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA3636@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 8:23:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2458382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:23:31 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54CNU5Z030838 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:23:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 21871150 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 05:30:49 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 05:23:54 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:23:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <97542857.20050604062327@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ithink I may live In-Reply-To: <42985E09.2000706@maynor.net> References: <1504985826.20050528041350@gailndan.com> <42985E09.2000706@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 218, in=89700, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/28/2005, 6:03 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >>Had the TT revised early Monday morning. And now >>past most of the >> >> NM> The TT? What does that mean? Tummy Tuck, or abdominoplasty for the technically/medically oriented. The upper part of one done last year pulled out internally. Doc did revision for free, since he forgot to use baling wire or something stronger the first time. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 07:24:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54COJv9015262 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 07:24:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 07:24:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA3637@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 8:24:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2458393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:24:19 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54COJQr030876 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:24:19 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 289598B41B461 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 07:24:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000701c56900$91b51f50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200506041219.j54CJcQS030402@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Life in the Bible Belt Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 07:26:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Ostrander" To: Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 7:19 AM Subject: Re: Life in the Bible Belt > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:11:23 -0500, Natalie Maynor > wrote: > >>When I first settled into my seedy little motel room, fearing that the >>pouring rain would never cease, thus making me unable to take pictures >>of graves, I exercised my camera by taking pictures of the Bible I found >>in the room: >> >>http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Opelika/ >> >>-- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > we have a show on the local Cable access channel that is quotes from > various versions of the Bible, purporting to prove that one version > (in particular) is the work of Satan, that all others are also Satanic > except for the KJV in some specific format. Looks like our TV guy > has been in your hotel room! > clo I am in the middle of a 3-day garage sale. Yesterday a lady came and bought 3 bibles from me, each a different version. She and her husband then stood and talked . . said they collect bibles . . said you know there will come a day when you can't get your hands on a bible . . said even now the bible is being changed so that it doesn't say what it used to . . said it's all non-gender now to please the homosexuals . . and you can't even call god a "he" . . . etc. etc. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 07:25:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54CPFv9015384 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 07:25:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 07:25:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA35FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 8:25:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2458404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:25:14 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54CPEb7030929 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:25:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21666851 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 05:46:19 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 05:25:38 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:25:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <759308084.20050604062512@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For 'lan In-Reply-To: <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 218, in=77207, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/28/2005, 6:22 AM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> I think as a teenager, that I would have enjoyed AW> destroying such cameras. AW> Nope... I KNOW I would have. Of course just like the guys covering up the security cameras in stores before they rob them....you'd have provided a nice picture of yourself doing so. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 07:26:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54CQ8v9015525 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 07:26:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 07:26:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA364F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 8:26:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2458438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:26:08 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54CQ7a5031049 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:26:07 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 21933063 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 05:26:27 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 05:26:31 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:26:07 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15410348062.20050604062607@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: commerical banks In-Reply-To: <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> References: <42985ED6.9000304@maynor.net> <4298640C.3060206@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 216, in=76135, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/28/2005, 6:29 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> If I used a NM> credit union instead NM> of a regular bank, would I be getting higher NM> interest on my checking NM> account? I've yet to see a case where a credit union didn't pay higher interest and charge lower interest than a bank. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 09:15:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54EFjv9029335 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:15:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:15:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA372A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 9:45:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2460326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:45:44 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54DjhPt004576 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:45:44 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 21935735 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 06:46:03 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:46:07 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 07:45:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <665286029.20050604074543@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ithink I may live In-Reply-To: <4299BBBB.1030600@akad.ee> References: <1504985826.20050528041350@gailndan.com> <4299BBBB.1030600@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 216, in=76140, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/29/2005, 6:55 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> Yes, I hope you may. Continuing to improve. I chose to do this, so not whining too much. KS> Dan Lester wrote: >>Naturall I've >>gained weight due to all the fluids, both IV on >>monday and all the >>ones I'be been pouring in since then. But this >>too shall pass and if >>all goes well I'll be back in the gym before toooo >>long. >> >> KS> I do not know either what TT is. Means tummy tuck or abdominoplasty. KS> Or what might fluid KS> IV mean. IV means intravenous fluids they put in your during surgery, and many other times in the hospital. It was day surgery, but I still got very bloated. KS> Just that KS> you've been quiet before and since the two messages KS> yesterday. >>Now I'm gonna skim thru the email of 400 or so >> KS> Maybe that's why you've gone on being silent. Hope KS> you are going to be KS> better, though, in spite of your bad injury and the KS> sad news in the list. Yes, I've noted all the sad news. Only met Brad twice, in RI and in OR at those events more than a decade ago each. But most interesting and challenging guy. And my "injury" was really elective surgery, so was of my own making. Still getting caught up on email and reading, but finally off of any drugs stronger than acetominophen and not much of that. This "panty girdle" that goes from crotch to ribcage isn't any fun, but it is survivable. I now get to take it off a couple hours a day and today will be able to get my first shower in two weeks. Until now it has just been sponge baths. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 10:48:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54FmJv9005987 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:48:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:48:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA38AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:38:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2463144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:38:18 -0400 Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54FSH3s013585 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:28:17 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([80.195.2.181]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:28:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <759308084.20050604062512@gailndan.com> References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <759308084.20050604062512@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8AD2EE43-E7B9-433B-8BD6-6225BBA8C89C@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roy Jaques Subject: Re: For 'lan Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:29:55 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2005 15:28:56.0395 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F3AF1B0:01C5691A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 4 Jun 2005, at 13:25, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/28/2005, 6:22 AM, Alan Wild wrote: > > AW> I think as a teenager, that I would have enjoyed > AW> destroying such cameras. > > AW> Nope... I KNOW I would have. > > Of course just like the guys covering up the security cameras in > stores before they rob them....you'd have provided a nice picture of > yourself doing so. > How do you come to that conclusion ? The cameras take picture of things moving faster than the speed limit. They don't operate unless you are moving away from them at >30 mph for example. The method of destroying them in this country isn't very difficult to do and involves a car tyre and fuel. That assumes there is a camera in the box after all. It is estimated there is one camera for every 10 boxes. Of course if you don't want to get caught speeding, don't break the limit. Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 10:58:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54FwVv9007154 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:58:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 10:58:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006699F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:58:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2464229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:58:30 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54FwDU5018185 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:58:13 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j54FwDvP032201 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:58:13 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j54Fvs83013106 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:57:56 -0400 Message-ID: <004c01c5691e$2cfde7e0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <759308084.20050604062512@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: For 'lan Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:57:53 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > 5/28/2005, 6:22 AM, Alan Wild wrote: > > AW> I think as a teenager, that I would have enjoyed > AW> destroying such cameras. > > AW> Nope... I KNOW I would have. > > Of course just like the guys covering up the security cameras in > stores before they rob them....you'd have provided a nice picture of > yourself doing so. I'd put on a Dan Lester mask. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 12:34:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54HYNv9018828 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:34:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:34:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA3A20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:34:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2467049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:34:22 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54HYLsx026613 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:34:21 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j54HYKf4011297 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:34:20 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j54HYJlO011295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:34:19 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:34:19 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For 'lan Message-ID: <20050604173419.GA11275@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <759308084.20050604062512@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <759308084.20050604062512@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 06:25:12AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: = 5/28/2005, 6:22 AM, Alan Wild wrote: = = AW> I think as a teenager, that I would have enjoyed = AW> destroying such cameras. = = AW> Nope... I KNOW I would have. = = Of course just like the guys covering up the security cameras in = stores before they rob them....you'd have provided a nice picture of = yourself doing so. Actually 'lan doesn't look much like a speeding car! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 12:59:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54HxMv9021422 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:59:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:59:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA3AD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:59:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2467820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:59:22 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54HxLM6028448 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:59:21 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j54HxLvP001521 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:59:21 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j54Hx39P028511 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:59:04 -0400 Message-ID: <007a01c5692f$192742f0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <759308084.20050604062512@gailndan.com> <20050604173419.GA11275@yoccoz.multinix.com> Subject: Re: Re: For 'lan Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:59:02 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "steph" > = Of course just like the guys covering up the security cameras in > = stores before they rob them....you'd have provided a nice picture of > = yourself doing so. > > Actually 'lan doesn't look much like a speeding car! That's right; my interior lighting requires a good friend. ;-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 13:39:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54IdYv9025436 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:39:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:39:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA3B52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:39:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2468996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:39:33 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j54ITWfb031094 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:29:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 82341 invoked by uid 1003); 4 Jun 2005 18:29:31 -0000 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:29:31 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For 'lan Message-ID: <20050604182931.GA80345@words-l.org> References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <759308084.20050604062512@gailndan.com> <20050604173419.GA11275@yoccoz.multinix.com> <007a01c5692f$192742f0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <007a01c5692f$192742f0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 01:59:02PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "steph" > >= Of course just like the guys covering up the security cameras in > >= stores before they rob them....you'd have provided a nice picture of > >= yourself doing so. > > > >Actually 'lan doesn't look much like a speeding car! > > That's right; my interior lighting requires a good friend. > > ;-) Jeeze man, it's just a bottle ... it can be bought From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 17:11:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54MBNv9014534 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:11:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:11:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA3F05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:01:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2476488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:01:22 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54M1MQn013849 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:01:22 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.217]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050604220121.DLIR2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:01:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.217]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050604220121.MELJ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:01:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:01:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Thanks, Boo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Boo's check plopped onto my livingroom floor this afternoon. And I was happy to see that he's a 7-crosser. I should have been paying attention to what others were doing with the 3715 in my address. As I think I've mentioned before, I started crossing 7s some number of years ago and now can't break the habit -- and don't really want to since I like crossed 7s. They're clearer than uncrossed ones. But some people find them . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 17:51:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54Mp3v9017985 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:51:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:51:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA3FA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:51:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2477665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:51:03 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54Mp2nl017444 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:51:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22032242 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:28:07 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:51:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:50:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1726310463.20050604165057@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Greetings! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 214, in=79133, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/29/2005, 2:12 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> > So many folks these days fail to realize that >> freedom isn't free >> >> 'true AFoA> Name three. I could name at least ten that I work with. They'd abolish the military and let things fall as they may. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 18:04:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54N4qv9019578 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:04:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:04:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA4012@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:04:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2477918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:04:52 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54N4pGP018378 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:04:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 21960546 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:05:09 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:05:13 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:04:49 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1906854448.20050604170449@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Greetings! In-Reply-To: <429B15A1.5050001@maynor.net> References: <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050529183455.01bf3a88@pop.gwi.net> <429B13BD.7030409@gmail.com> <429B15A1.5050001@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 216, in=76220, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/30/2005, 7:31 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I think I mentioned here before that I once made a NM> tape of about five NM> different versions of that song -- as in sung by NM> about five different NM> people. And I'm sure you could compile one of twentyfive different singers/versions easily, too. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 18:32:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j54NVuv9022574 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:31:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:32:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA403F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:31:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2478459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:31:56 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j54NVtDB020380 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:31:56 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2046739wri for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr2191762wrb; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.46 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:31:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CeCzmVPG5JGvmM7Xv1shxY/zCyp40RhG1KtuyPDJ3feMbvcd685jPboOIwqA11TvBvemaqtO/5v4uf2+BOCasQP+fi/UK1vJcQiPNZ6EpGxGsYLcE7xnk84fHh8meXqO4/1RLrhdq7ocQt6q/pFX7BLyD3iaKy2FVXGlLhjmAGU= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:31:55 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Card carryin' member Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j54NVuDB020381 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My NRA card arrived today. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 19:45:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j550j6v9031379 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:45:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:45:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA40E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:41:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2479788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:41:03 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j550f23q025093 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:41:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22036460 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:18:09 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:41:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:41:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <937538901.20050604184101@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Euros/update on TCs In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 214, in=79148, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/31/2005, 11:36 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> I will probably not use them BKD> again. AAA still has BKD> a large banner saying "Accepted Worldwide." Not so. Probably means "world wide in some places in various countries around the world". Doubt anyone could reasonably interpret that type of marketing statement as some sort of universal truth. If nothing else, there will probably always be a few places that say, and mean, "in God we trust, all others pay cash". dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 19:45:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j550j6v9031386 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:45:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:45:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA40EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:35:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2479691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:35:05 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j550Z4Bd024644 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:35:04 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j550Z3C8001790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:35:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:35:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [saken@email.uky.edu: Memorial service for Brad Grissom] In-Reply-To: <42A0CF76.6050905@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200506031727.j53HRMp3021821@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42A0CF76.6050905@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> It would be kind of cool to be the messenger of tributes from Wordslers. > > You should do it!! Janice was initially enthusiastic, thinking we could see all her relatives who would be gathering in northern Kentucky around that time. But that is happening over the 4th of July weekend, and as county clerk, I am more or less obligated to march in the parades that day. So if I travel down to Kentucky for the 7th, I'd be doing it on my own. I suppose I could also go to Frankfort (to the state archives) and make it a research trip. But I certainly don't want to build plans around what was a "tentative" or "possible" date for the memorial service. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 19:45:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j550j6v9031382 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:45:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:45:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA40FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:41:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2479812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:41:13 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j550fDKW025154 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:41:13 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.217]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605004113.SCLV13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:41:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.217]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605004113.JKCT25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:41:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42A24A25.6020604@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:41:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Card carryin' member References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >My NRA card arrived today. > > Is this a renewal, or are you a new member? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 19:45:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j550j6v9031384 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:45:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:45:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA4103@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:42:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2479872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:42:59 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j550gx0l025292 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:42:59 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.217]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605004259.SDCM13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:42:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.217]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605004258.JKJJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:42:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42A24A8F.9040908@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:42:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [saken@email.uky.edu: Memorial service for Brad Grissom] References: <200506031727.j53HRMp3021821@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42A0CF76.6050905@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I suppose I could also go to Frankfort (to the state archives) and > make it > a research trip. Yes! Excellent idea! > But I certainly don't want to build plans around what was a "tentative" > or "possible" date for the memorial service. I feel sure that we can find out from Steph, the friendly organizer, how tentative tentative is or when it will no longer be called tentative. Iow, I feel sure that it can be well in advance. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 19:45:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j550j6v9031387 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:45:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:45:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA40DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:38:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2479719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:38:02 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j550c1iO024862 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:38:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 21902917 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:45:25 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:38:25 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:38:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: TCs and Spain In-Reply-To: <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 219, in=89800, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/31/2005, 4:27 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> My experience with NM> AmEx TCs has been NM> fine everywhere except in Kroger in Starkville, MS. NM> TCs in general may NM> be on the decline, of course, I can't imagine buying travelers checks. Haven't done so in well over a decade of travel both domestic and foreign. Why bother with them? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 19:55:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j550tkv9032303 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:55:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:55:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA40BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:45:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2479947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:45:45 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j550jipG025502 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:45:44 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.217]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605004545.SEBM13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:45:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.217]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605004544.JKTP25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:45:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:45:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >I can't imagine buying travelers checks. Haven't done so in well over a >decade of travel both domestic and foreign. Why bother with them? > > I don't know about "buying" them. I just get them at my bank. They're free. And I find them convenient. It's how I normally change money in -- I walk up to a window at the airport upon arrival and sign some tc's and get the appropriate currency. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 19:56:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j550tlv9032310 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:55:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:56:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA4115@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:52:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2480017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:52:21 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j550qKQc025871 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:52:21 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22036908 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:29:27 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:52:43 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:52:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <547184190.20050604185219@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mentioned on the local news... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705053120034adf4ba4@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705053120034adf4ba4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 214, in=79150, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Also previously mentioned on this service. Useful, but....no guarantees that the aircraft that will normally fly the given date/time/route is what will actually be used, for a variety of reasons. 5/31/2005, 9:03 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> http://www.seatguru.com/ "Your enlightened guide to AFoA> airline seating" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 19:56:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j550tlv9032308 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:55:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:56:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA40FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:45:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2479959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:45:52 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j550jqDe025521 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:45:52 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 21903229 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:53:16 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:46:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:45:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <617415089.20050604184552@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050531114266abdfa@mail.gmail.com> References: <462271950505251719482f884@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251815ef1ad9f@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> <482794535.20050531123352@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050531114266abdfa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 219, in=89802, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 5/31/2005, 12:42 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Think Yoda already has that job. AFoA> I didn't realize that Yoda was a short person. Well, my memory of him in the film was that he was considerably shorter than any of the humans. Sort of like Munchkin size. But I'm not an SW expert and will gladly defer to those who may be. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 19:56:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j550tlv9032309 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:55:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:56:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA40CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:55:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2480051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:55:05 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j550t4A5025985 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:55:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21698368 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:16:15 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:55:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:55:04 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1622117114.20050604185504@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000801c566b6$56e64620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 218, in=77300, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/1/2005, 8:29 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> Now that Deep Throat has outed, I'd give just about DM> anything if someone, late in their life, could step DM> forward and tell us what really happened on DM> November 22, 1963. It would be nice, but I expect hell to freeze over first. We'd always known that DT would be outed upon his/her death, and the actual DT was the one most frequently mentioned by those "in the know". He's an Idaho boy, grad of UI and UI Law, and local news was filled with interviews with his remaining local relatives. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 19:57:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j550utv9032418 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:56:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:57:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA40CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:56:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2480081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:56:55 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j550uss1026203 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:56:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22037076 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:34:01 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:57:17 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:56:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Wish In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 214, in=79151, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Not me. I do NOT forge addresses, headers, etc, etc. 6/1/2005, 11:56 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> At first I thought it was Dan. AFoA> On 6/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> Tushar? Is that you? >> >> >> >>> rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU 6/1/2005 1:01:34 PM >>> >> >> hahahahahahhahahahahaha >> >> That is so FUNNY and CLEVER and ORIGINAL >> >> wheredoyoucomeupwiththistuff >> >> you're KILLING me! >> >> >> ha ha ha ha haha >> From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 20:15:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j551FYv9002075 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:15:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:15:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA413D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:07:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2480345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:07:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5517hbY026962 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:07:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2085992wri for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.26 with SMTP id 26mr2232587wrw; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:07:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eLoNqkLQPuZ/vqtdKMLR2vJXi9LmnqcPP3Wa6pg2P1zK02g71qSNYIZsYk7oTji6obVDSPhX9A6gPyq6lNl74WZ5wLY7w9bvavXP2Xd0CJDTJOjKfcjlm6C2DyKpCP+q7EypcG8ewjs3O1X6CYWF/YxyAHAYwDzJ28lrtA5FLkM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060418077aff1846@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:07:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <617415089.20050604184552@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> <482794535.20050531123352@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050531114266abdfa@mail.gmail.com> <617415089.20050604184552@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5517ibY026966 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/4/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 5/31/2005, 12:42 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> Think Yoda already has that job. > > AFoA> I didn't realize that Yoda was a short person. > > Well, my memory of him in the film was that he was considerably > shorter than any of the humans. Sort of like Munchkin size. But I'm > not an SW expert and will gladly defer to those who may be. Munchkins are not just "short", they are Little People. Karen enjoying watching Nanook stalking Oliver From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 20:15:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j551FYv9002081 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:15:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:15:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA4138@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:05:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2480307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:05:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5515XdZ026853 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:05:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2085098wri for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.43 with SMTP id x43mr2139249wrx; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:05:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nJVbkF70rdymqWPnghbJCUM2774fW/SizFPytE9fzT7WOnZ/Y5RKQTV8jJ5zcwWpWt8kUl77v5DVacwMVXRbSfAyJ0IRZKdOOAXoQCXYKZ//14gXJwDIn+tvTNfrpb7AM+1lgFedWDARv+TqCyiTVHQAd2DRKCekEt0xOZgkgQg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050604180568b70be3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:05:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5515XdZ026854 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was going by the tone. On 6/4/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Not me. I do NOT forge addresses, headers, etc, etc. > > > 6/1/2005, 11:56 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> At first I thought it was Dan. > > AFoA> On 6/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> Tushar? Is that you? > >> > >> > >> >>> rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU 6/1/2005 1:01:34 PM >>> > >> > >> hahahahahahhahahahahaha > >> > >> That is so FUNNY and CLEVER and ORIGINAL > >> > >> wheredoyoucomeupwiththistuff > >> > >> you're KILLING me! > >> > >> > >> ha ha ha ha haha > >> > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 20:15:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j551FYv9002080 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:15:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:15:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA40EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:06:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2480327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:06:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5516PH8026897 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:06:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2085490wri for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.78.16 with SMTP id a16mr2230827wrb; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:06:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mg5+nXKZyRvJWraMS5/vaP8ApMqdVhFfu7psPlbuiOe6OZJ6SQCXplP3GzcYL+CCKuT+Hs8bZ4S5KUAwkUZikbQk2Owis1U09mcStCeu3lBlK2NAlI834lnamax1kcZCaDxGckMDHOUsaQ5QqL77SoFIhLjdab1GL4RbJbzDlZk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060418061d466e22@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:06:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mentioned on the local news... In-Reply-To: <547184190.20050604185219@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705053120034adf4ba4@mail.gmail.com> <547184190.20050604185219@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5516PH8026899 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/4/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Also previously mentioned on this service. Sorry. > Useful, but....no guarantees that the aircraft that will normally fly > the given date/time/route is what will actually be used, for a variety > of reasons. That's pretty much what it says, yes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 20:36:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j551aYv9004659 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:36:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:36:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA416F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:36:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2480707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:36:34 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j551aXp8028678 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:36:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21699859 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:57:45 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:36:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:36:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1235790149.20050604193634@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Life in the Bible Belt In-Reply-To: <42A0D58B.4060802@maynor.net> References: <42A0D58B.4060802@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 218, in=77301, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/3/2005, 4:11 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I exercised my camera by taking pictures NM> of the Bible I found NM> in the room: NM> http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Opelika/ Obviously at least one patron of the motel thought those damn gideons were waaaayyy too liberal with a NKJV instead of the REAL KJV as written by The Lord Himself in The King's English. And the modern folks think he probably spoke Aramaic and that the world isn't flat, too. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 21:16:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j552Glv9009391 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:16:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:16:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA41BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:16:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2481399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:16:46 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j552Ge5V031577 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:16:40 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA41BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:16:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200506050216.j552Ge5V031577@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:16:39 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Wish To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:55:04 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >It would be nice, but I expect hell to freeze over first. We'd always >known that DT would be outed upon his/her death, and the actual DT was >the one most frequently mentioned by those "in the know". He's an >Idaho boy, grad of UI and UI Law, and local news was filled with >interviews with his remaining local relatives. Yeah. Our local news featured G. Gordon Liddy, who now lives in Scottsdale. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 21:19:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j552J7v9009543 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:19:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:19:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA41AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:19:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2481449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:19:07 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j552Itf3031746 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:18:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA4172@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:18:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200506050218.j552Itf3031746@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:18:55 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: "Crash" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Interesting film. I liked it. Anyone else see it? Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 21:51:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j552pBv9014197 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:51:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:51:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066A0A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:51:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2482243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:51:06 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j552p6Uv001759 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:51:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 21908265 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:58:29 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:51:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:51:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1179369575.20050604205103@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For 'lan In-Reply-To: <8AD2EE43-E7B9-433B-8BD6-6225BBA8C89C@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200505271454.j4REs6vL013907@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050528061625.GA20402@yoccoz.multinix.com> <008f01c5637f$e11e4160$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <759308084.20050604062512@gailndan.com> <8AD2EE43-E7B9-433B-8BD6-6225BBA8C89C@blueyonder.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 219, in=89814, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/4/2005, 9:29 AM, Roy Jaques wrote: >> Of course just like the guys covering up the >> security cameras in >> stores before they rob them....you'd have >> provided a nice picture of >> yourself doing so. >> RJ> How do you come to that conclusion ? RJ> The cameras take picture of things moving faster RJ> than the speed RJ> limit. They don't operate unless you are moving away from them at >>30 RJ> mph for example. That is true for many of the speed limit cameras. However there are also others that are monitoring 24/7, digital video, just like security cams in stores, motels, etc. The red light ones don't rely on speed, but on presence/motion at a specific time in the cycle. RJ> The method of destroying them in this country isn't RJ> very difficult to RJ> do and involves a car tyre and fuel. That assumes RJ> there is a camera RJ> in the box after all. It is estimated there is one RJ> camera for every RJ> 10 boxes. I'm sure that is true most places....they use lots of dummies to make it look like security is better than it is. The library I work in has two of them at the exit, both record 24/7 to digital video, with a frame taken each .4 second. We've converted a number of images from the tape to printouts or files for the police when needed. Last week in Costco I saw a better system for sale for your home or business, with four cameras, with all recording to hard disk for last 24 hours, for $999 on sale. RJ> Of course if you don't want to get caught speeding, RJ> don't break the RJ> limit. Right. I've not had any ticket in over fifteen years, even a parking violation. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 21:53:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j552rEv9014466 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:53:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:53:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA41DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:53:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2482344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:53:14 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j552rDx0001897 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:53:13 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22041870 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:30:21 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:53:36 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:53:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1014829981.20050604205312@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo In-Reply-To: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 214, in=79161, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/4/2005, 4:01 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> As I think I've NM> mentioned before, I started crossing 7s some number NM> of years ago and now NM> can't break the habit -- and don't really want to NM> since I like crossed NM> 7s. They're clearer than uncrossed ones. But some NM> people find them NM> . Most would consider crossed sevens to be a "continental" thing. I'm used to crossed zeroes myself, and am ambivalent on sevens, though often do so, though not always. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 21:54:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j552sCv9014553 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:54:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:54:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA421D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:54:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2482378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:54:11 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j552sBhq001952 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:54:11 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 21908405 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:01:36 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:54:35 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:54:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <167358191.20050604205411@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Card carryin' member In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 219, in=89815, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/4/2005, 5:31 PM, Marieber Meeber wrote: MM> My NRA card arrived today. Congrats. Assume you mean THE NRA, and not the thirties' governmental agency. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 21:57:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j552vBv9014922 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:57:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:57:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA4248@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:57:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2482566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:57:11 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j552vAcP002192 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:57:11 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21703494 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:18:22 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:57:35 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:57:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <518724379.20050604205711@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: TCs and Spain In-Reply-To: <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 218, in=77311, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/4/2005, 6:45 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I don't know about "buying" them. I just get them NM> at my bank. They're NM> free. And I find them convenient. It's how I Many agencies offer them free, particularly credit unions. Many don't, charging one percent or so. All depends, just like everything else. NM> normally change money in NM> -- I walk up to a window at the NM> airport upon arrival and NM> sign some tc's and get the appropriate currency. Of course the airport terminal is the worst possible exchange rate you'll ever find. And you can do that with your credit and/or ATM card at the terminal anyway, and at a better rate than you get from some kiosk where you do the exchanges. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 21:59:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j552x4v9015182 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:59:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:59:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA425A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:59:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2482855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:59:04 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j552x3ar002413 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:59:03 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22042120 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:36:11 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 19:59:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:59:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <169599745.20050604205903@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060418077aff1846@mail.gmail.com> References: <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> <482794535.20050531123352@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050531114266abdfa@mail.gmail.com> <617415089.20050604184552@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705060418077aff1846@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 214, in=79162, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/4/2005, 7:07 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> But I'm >> not an SW expert and will gladly defer to those >> who may be. AFoA> Munchkins are not just "short", they are Little AFoA> People. As noted previously, will leave the detailed analysis on relative heights, weights, etc, of munchkins, yoda, little people, midgets, dwarves, and other real and imaginary characters to others. I trust that the definitive essay on this will be less than ten screens. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 22:19:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j553JIv9017682 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:19:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:19:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066A48E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:19:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2487061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:19:17 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j553JGV8005447 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:19:16 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.217]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605031916.SHKY26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:19:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.217]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605031915.NJDE29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:19:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42A26F30.7040201@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:19:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> <518724379.20050604205711@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <518724379.20050604205711@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Of course the airport terminal is the worst possible exchange rate >you'll ever find. > Cite, please. Or is this comment based on your vast worldy experience? In my limited experience, I have not found it to be true. I routinely change money at the airport first and then later elsewhere, and I have never found the exchange rate at the airport banks to be higher. > And you can do that with your credit and/or ATM >card at the terminal anyway, and at a better rate than you get from >some kiosk where you do the exchanges. > > I'm not sure how the for tc-exchange are different from the for using an ATM card. They're the same -- iow, they're banks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 22:25:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j553Phv9018611 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:25:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:25:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066A497@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:25:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2487180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:25:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j553Pgae005885 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:25:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1588888nzo for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.4 with SMTP id l4mr10324nzd; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:25:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OsDGksrCzs9sNviOZK1RvC9ZXL8kq1f+4RtaEbETi2LEP7fJCvoj5horIHTGsswEBFXSEFJrRaR0bOyHNKbyDTyRkFW2GiFNlUYQScd9ewOHTmCCDEziPw786FGo87kTSCfgP7W7FdAT6UU0+9VX9DLGJKTDLXnWdLci02lN7es= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060420254ae0e6f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:25:42 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain In-Reply-To: <42A26F30.7040201@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> <518724379.20050604205711@gailndan.com> <42A26F30.7040201@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j553Phae005886 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > >Of course the airport terminal is the worst possible exchange rate > >you'll ever find. > > > Cite, please. Or is this comment based on your vast worldy experience? > In my limited experience, I have not found it to be true. I routinely > change money at the airport first and then later elsewhere, and I have > never found the exchange rate at the airport banks to be higher. That does surprise me--my experience has been like Dan's. > > And you can do that with your credit and/or ATM > >card at the terminal anyway, and at a better rate than you get from > >some kiosk where you do the exchanges. > > > I'm not sure how the for tc-exchange are different from the > for using an ATM card. They're the same -- iow, > they're banks. I also have had the experience that ATMs are better than moneychangers. (I don't think all moneychangers are banks, either.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 22:26:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j553Qiv9018722 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:26:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:26:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066A49E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:26:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2487308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:26:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j553QhtW006115 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:26:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1589152nzo for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr10412nzd; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:26:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZtpP7xw8v1ZMMCRYH4yyo2m+hYZsmsRer2vBdKo9RH3z/5sHQm/TUUQ038fSV9FebBQYJmBGcZgQYlNs5ABs6FjkGAHFnGjDUY6FisFJjy3ak48H7HaNem19095BsqsMqfIvMauMN12xdHvPTF58KSt4BcOZPFxRPW8GoQAOsRg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060420264ee592a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:26:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <169599745.20050604205903@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> <482794535.20050531123352@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050531114266abdfa@mail.gmail.com> <617415089.20050604184552@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705060418077aff1846@mail.gmail.com> <169599745.20050604205903@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j553QhtW006116 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/4/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/4/2005, 7:07 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> But I'm > >> not an SW expert and will gladly defer to those > >> who may be. > > AFoA> Munchkins are not just "short", they are Little > AFoA> People. > > As noted previously, will leave the detailed analysis on relative > heights, weights, etc, of munchkins, yoda, little people, midgets, > dwarves, and other real and imaginary characters to others. I trust > that the definitive essay on this will be less than ten screens. I am not a dwarf or a midget. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 22:34:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j553YFv9019463 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:34:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:34:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066A4AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:34:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2487461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:34:14 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j553YEeP006720 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:34:14 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.217]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605033414.SKJC26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:34:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.217]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605033413.NKWT29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:34:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42A272B2.1000104@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:34:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> <518724379.20050604205711@gailndan.com> <42A26F30.7040201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705060420254ae0e6f1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060420254ae0e6f1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: > (I don't think all moneychangers are banks, either.) > > I'm sure that not all moneychangers are banks. But I use banks for money-changing. Iow, I didn't get Dan's implication that somehow one used an ATM card in a bank but used TCs in some kind of . The places I use to change money in airports are branches of banks. And none resemble kiosks, even in so-called . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 22:42:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j553g2v9020328 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:42:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:42:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0066A408@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:42:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2487599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:42:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j553g1vx007160 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:42:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1592979nzo for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.3 with SMTP id g3mr11502nzg; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 20:42:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=koYpLkeUK8d9w4aVgmJ+2ntPot7O42H2nHf+Um1P+AjQt243FvVJ5Ar8WO7OxSS6SO3k/isOYcjWFkNNTlh9Iwij5Bzh3U39+RWFIHuCfablkZRHhNUlH26pMuM9OBDldZ79BR2Ow4i8Nr1XyCAE3Ut6nja93nW5Wee/PXLHp4Y= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060420426909e2a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:42:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain In-Reply-To: <42A272B2.1000104@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> <518724379.20050604205711@gailndan.com> <42A26F30.7040201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705060420254ae0e6f1@mail.gmail.com> <42A272B2.1000104@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j553g2vx007161 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/4/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > (I don't think all moneychangers are banks, either.) > > > > > I'm sure that not all moneychangers are banks. But I use banks for > money-changing. Iow, I didn't get Dan's implication that somehow one > used an ATM card in a bank but used TCs in some kind of . > The places I use to change money in airports are branches of banks. And > none resemble kiosks, even in so-called . I'm impressed you have that much choice. That wasn't my expeirence. In fact, I know that last time I went to France, 9 years ago, there was only one place to change money when I got back, and it was not a bank. I've never seen a money-changing place in an airport that wasn't a kiosk, though. So we obviously have had different experiences. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 23:18:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j554Hlv9024864 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:17:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 23:17:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066A5E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 0:17:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2490574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:17:46 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j554HkaP010887 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:17:46 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 39BD3C4649F32 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:17:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001401c56985$c1a74960$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Wiki Wiki Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:19:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j554Hlv9024864 I'm lying in bed . . reading the new Time Magazine . . reading an article on wikis . .and about half way through I find them talking about Socialtext and what they are doing . . Good going, Pete . . - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 23:28:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j554Ruv9025990 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:27:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 23:28:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA4619@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 0:27:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2490848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:27:56 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j554RtNj011568 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:27:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 21973397 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:28:16 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:28:20 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:27:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1346004189.20050604222755@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: TCs and Spain In-Reply-To: <42A26F30.7040201@maynor.net> References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> <518724379.20050604205711@gailndan.com> <42A26F30.7040201@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 216, in=76251, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/4/2005, 9:19 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I'm not sure how the for tc-exchange are NM> different from the NM> for using an ATM card. They're the same NM> -- iow, NM> they're banks. A money machine doesn't take a person there to give you the money, staff the operation, etc. Same reason many banks now charge you to do a personal transaction instead of doing it via ATM. Also, same reason food costs you more in the airport than elsewhere, as they're paying a premium for the space. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 23:29:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j554TWv9026111 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:29:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 23:29:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA45CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 0:29:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2490887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:29:31 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j554TUNs011660 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:29:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22045708 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:06:39 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:29:54 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:29:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17710633095.20050604222929@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060420264ee592a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> <482794535.20050531123352@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050531114266abdfa@mail.gmail.com> <617415089.20050604184552@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705060418077aff1846@mail.gmail.com> <169599745.20050604205903@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705060420264ee592a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 214, in=79175, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/4/2005, 9:26 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I am not a dwarf or a midget. AFAIK you're not any of the listed groups, unless you're a relative of Yoda. Don't think you're short enough to be an official "little person", are you? If so, what is the limit for those that used to be called midgets or dwarves (and yes I know the difference). dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 4 23:35:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j554ZSv9026804 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:35:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 23:35:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA4617@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 0:35:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2490837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:35:27 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j554PQuc011387 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:25:26 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 21973288 for multiple; Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:25:40 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:25:44 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:25:26 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200506050425.j554PQuc011387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:25:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: Dan Lester Organization: www.gailndan.com Message-ID: <231504261.20050604222519@gailndan.com> To: graduatebandsters@yahoogroups.com, malebandsters@yahoogroups.com, drortiz@yahoogroups.com, CC: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU, lestermarilyn@aol.com, andy@petdance.com, amy@parsley.org, Subject: Dan is alive and well....relatively.... Resent-from: Dan Lester MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 216, in=76250, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adventures of the last month….. First, thanks to a couple dozen people who’ve sent me emails in the last month inquiring about my health, my absence from various email groups and lists, and so forth. I’ve deleted literally thousands of emails unread, but have tried to read and respond to all sent personally. I’ve been very busy and also having surgery. This may be long, so pick and choose as much as you’re interested in….or quickly use your delete key. May 7-8, Gail and I went to a Church retreat/training session in Sun Valley. May 9-13 I worked “graveyards” at the library. We keep the library open all night for finals, and I always volunteer for that duty just for a change. May 14-15 We went down to Winnemucca to race in Solo II competition both days (SCCA version of autocross). Didn’t win anything, but improved, and had lots of fun. May 16-20 Insane week at work in order to try to get things caught up, and even ahead, so I could be off the next two weeks. May 21-22 Trying to do the same catching up at home, weeding flower beds, mowing lawns, arranging for yard care while I can’t, etc., plus usual church activities. Tried to eat very lightly in preparation for surgery. May 23 Showed up at Dr. McKim’s office/clinic at 0830 for surgery at 0900. For background, many will know that I got a lapband on 4/28/03, and had a tummytuck (TT) (abdominoplasty) on 6/28/04 with Dr. McKim. After both surgeries I got pneumonia and things healed more slowly than would normally be the case. So I took antibiotics in advance of the surgery to forestall any problems. Unfortunately, they didn’t solve the problem. Had the tummytuck again with Dr. McKim (at no charge) since the upper part of it, above the bellybutton, pulled out internally. It looked really weird with a big upper bulge above a pretty tight lower belly. Besides looking weird, it was just awkward in feeling and mobility. And being a man who takes great pride in his work, Dr. McKim felt a responsibility for it coming apart inside, thus the free revision. Anyway, I was home by 300 pm after a couple hours of surgery and another couple pounds of flesh removed (along with over six removed last year). This time he extended the vertical cut up to the breastbone, but made the “bikini line” cut much shorter than originally required. I came home with a catheter and bag, two drains, and a pain pump. I pretty much sat immobile in my recliner for the rest of the 23rd and the 24th except for on the 24th going to my primary doctor to get an exam and a prescription for Levaquin. On the 25th we took out the catheter since I was mobile enough to make it to the bathroom myself. Using the bathroom is extra fun since I’m also wearing a “long line panty girdle” that covers me all the way up to my bottom ribs, and is very tight. It is hooked with two “bra hooks” and a zipper. Using the fly is not a problem for a guy, but taking the whole thing down when sitting on the pot is required is a real pain, especially since for the first eight days pulling it back up took replacing about a dozen 3x3 gauze bandages each time. Went back to the plastic surgeon on the 26th and he said all was going well, and he was pleased. On 27th the regular doctor was pleased with progress on lung problems, but thought it was pretty slow. 28th-1st just stayed home and watched tv and read and slept. On the 2nd we went back to the plastic surgeon and they took out the stitches and the upper drain. Still have steristrips over incisions and one drain, but was finally able to take a shower today for first time in almost two weeks. It was like heaven. Compared to the original TT, this one was a piece of cake. Pain was much less, drainage much less, and expect much less in the way of any future problems. Though on the first couple of days I was doubting the wisdom of doing the revision, I’m now pleased and know it was worth it. Though Friday’s visit to primary care doctor said I still am short on lung capacity, it is coming back with some new inhalers. So, I’ll probably be back in better and more regular contact with folks from now on. Expect that on this Monday, the 6th, the plastic surgeon will pull the last drain and permit me to go back to work the next day. I’ll be glad to get back. So….be warned….I may catch up on some back messages, but will still probably just delete most of them. If you have personal questions or comments, send them personally to honu@gailndan.com or call 208=283=7711. Best wishes to all. And don’t let my adventures scare you off if and when you need plastic surgery. I have particularly sensitive skin and particular breathing issues that most don’t have. Of course none of us ever have any guarantees, but I’m a happy camper now. Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@gailndan.com www.mylapband.tk Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 323/209/199 Age 62 Fair is whatever God decides to do. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 06:04:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j55B40v9010017 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 06:04:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 06:04:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA493A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 7:04:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2497696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:04:00 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j55B40G3001021 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:04:00 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.210]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605110400.RVKI8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:04:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.210]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605110359.LTEI5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:03:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42A2DC1C.4050300@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 06:03:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> <518724379.20050604205711@gailndan.com> <42A26F30.7040201@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705060420254ae0e6f1@mail.gmail.com> <42A272B2.1000104@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705060420426909e2a1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060420426909e2a1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>I'm sure that not all moneychangers are banks. But I use banks for >>money-changing. Iow, I didn't get Dan's implication that somehow one >>used an ATM card in a bank but used TCs in some kind of . >>The places I use to change money in airports are branches of banks. And >>none resemble kiosks, even in so-called . >> >> >I'm impressed you have that much choice. That wasn't my expeirence. In >fact, I know that last time I went to France, 9 years ago, there was >only one place to change money when I got back, and it was not a bank. > >I've never seen a money-changing place in an airport that wasn't a >kiosk, though. So we obviously have had different experiences. > > Indeed. I can't remember ever seeing a money-changing kiosk in an airport. I've seen them in touristy shopping-type places on streets of foreign cities, but what I use in airports are the little branches of ordinary banks. Which airport in Paris did you use? Most of my trips to France in the past ten or fifteen years have been via CDG, though before that I normally flew to/from Orly. My only time in Orly in recent history was when I flew there from Barcelona a year or so ago, but I don't remember whether I changed any money since the euro era had dawned, meaning that I could use the same money I'd been using in Spain. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 06:09:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j55B9nv9010798 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 06:09:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 06:09:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0066A7F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 7:09:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2497717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:09:32 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j55B9WHt001285 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:09:32 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.210]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605110932.RWEU8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:09:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.210]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050605110932.LTOB5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:09:32 -0400 Message-ID: <42A2DD68.6030005@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 06:09:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> <518724379.20050604205711@gailndan.com> <42A26F30.7040201@maynor.net> <1346004189.20050604222755@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1346004189.20050604222755@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I'm not sure how the for tc-exchange are >NM> different from the >NM> for using an ATM card. They're the same >NM> -- iow, >NM> they're banks. > >A money machine doesn't take a person there to give you the money, >staff the operation, etc. Same reason many banks now charge you to do >a personal transaction instead of doing it via ATM. > > I was talking about the places, not the costs -- about the bank branches that offer ATMs and windows. If I traveled more often, I would perhaps study the costs more carefully, but I don't travel enough for it to be a big deal. I have noted, as I said last night, that the fee for changing money at airports has been lower or the same as the fee at in-town banks, not the opposite. But that's all I've noticed about the situation. (On my last trip out of the US, I didn't use tc's -- I just took a wad of cash and changed it upon arrival. And I didn't do it at the airport because I was rushing to find the person whose flight I was supposed to be on but wasn't and to try to make it to the bus that was about to leave for Seisekisakuragaoka -- I had enough yen left from a previous trip to get us to Seiseki, where I then used a nearby bank for changing money.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 06:44:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j55Bifv9016386 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 06:44:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 06:44:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA49A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 7:44:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2498438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:44:40 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j55BYeCn003654 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:34:40 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j55BYdL2028467 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:34:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200506051134.j55BYdL2028467@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: In memoriam to my pup Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Anne Toal wrote: > >> Wagster, our pup who was just about to have his first birthday, passed >> away on Tuesday when he was run over by a pickup truck. I put up a photo >> of him on my blog at http://www.gtoal.com. > > > The news is very sad, but that picture of him is wonderful. Just catching up on reading Words-l --- Natalie expresses my sentiments exactly. I am glad that you have such a wonderful picture by which to remember him. Joan From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 12:45:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j55Hjhv9028133 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 12:45:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 12:45:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA62AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 13:45:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2540781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:45:42 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j55HjfmP000629 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:45:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050605174541014003mtuse>; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:45:41 +0000 Message-ID: <42A33A43.5000706@istori.com> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:45:39 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wiki Wiki References: <001401c56985$c1a74960$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <001401c56985$c1a74960$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, > Good going, Pete . . Thanks, Doris! In other good news, we recently raised $3.1M in venture capital, which will help us expand: http://www.socialtext.com/weblog/050603seriesb.html Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 13:20:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j55IK9v9032746 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:20:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 13:20:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA6353@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 14:20:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2542033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:20:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j55IA7q5002457 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:10:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 86873 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Jun 2005 18:10:07 -0000 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:10:06 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish Message-ID: <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I must ask this ... since the average intelligence of this thread has been so much lower than the list average--are there actually people here who can't see the sender's email address, and don't know how to see it? Begging your pardon, that's idiotic in the extreme, for any regular email user. Figure it out immediately. And don't send a single email until you have mastered this mind-bendingly complex trick. On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 06:56:53PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Not me. I do NOT forge addresses, headers, etc, etc. > > 6/1/2005, 11:56 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> At first I thought it was Dan. > > AFoA> On 6/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> Tushar? Is that you? > >> > >> > >> >>> rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU 6/1/2005 1:01:34 PM >>> > >> > >> hahahahahahhahahahahaha > >> > >> That is so FUNNY and CLEVER and ORIGINAL > >> > >> wheredoyoucomeupwiththistuff > >> > >> you're KILLING me! > >> > >> > >> ha ha ha ha haha From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 13:24:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j55IO9v9000643 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:24:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 13:24:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA63B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 14:24:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2542151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:24:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j55IE8qv002732 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:14:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 88866 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Jun 2005 18:14:08 -0000 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:14:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Except Esther Message-ID: <20050605181408.GB77719@words-l.org> References: <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> <482794535.20050531123352@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050531114266abdfa@mail.gmail.com> <617415089.20050604184552@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705060418077aff1846@mail.gmail.com> <169599745.20050604205903@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <169599745.20050604205903@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 08:59:03PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/4/2005, 7:07 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> But I'm > >> not an SW expert and will gladly defer to those > >> who may be. > > AFoA> Munchkins are not just "short", they are Little > AFoA> People. > > As noted previously, will leave the detailed analysis on relative > heights, weights, etc, of munchkins, yoda, little people, midgets, > dwarves, and other real and imaginary characters to others. I trust > that the definitive essay on this will be less than ten screens. Short screens or tall screens? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 13:27:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j55IRNv9001019 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:27:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 13:27:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066BFCA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 14:27:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2542875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:27:23 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j55IRMsl003952 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:27:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21733489 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:48:40 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 5 Jun 2005 11:27:46 -0700 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 12:27:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1743384523.20050605122721@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Except Esther In-Reply-To: <20050605181408.GB77719@words-l.org> References: <83db447a0505251919239bf6d6@mail.gmail.com> <20050526142150.GA7777@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705052608223168dc6a@mail.gmail.com> <482794535.20050531123352@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050531114266abdfa@mail.gmail.com> <617415089.20050604184552@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705060418077aff1846@mail.gmail.com> <169599745.20050604205903@gailndan.com> <20050605181408.GB77719@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 219, in=77403, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/5/2005, 12:14 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> Short screens or tall screens? Yoda sized screens. Assuming he needs any. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 13:27:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j55IRZv9001053 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:27:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 13:27:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA63D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 14:27:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2542264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:27:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j55IHZ6J003035 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:17:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 90388 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Jun 2005 18:17:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:17:35 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TCs and Spain Message-ID: <20050605181735.GC77719@words-l.org> References: <200505310321.j4V3LdUC006346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <429C3BFA.8030200@maynor.net> <326015033.20050604183801@gailndan.com> <42A24B35.3030608@maynor.net> <518724379.20050604205711@gailndan.com> <42A26F30.7040201@maynor.net> <1346004189.20050604222755@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1346004189.20050604222755@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 10:27:55PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Also, same reason food costs you more in the airport than elsewhere, > as they're paying a premium for the space. How can a circular argument be a "reason" for anything? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 16:18:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j55LInv9019833 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 16:18:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 16:18:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066C2ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 17:18:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2550431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:18:48 -0400 Received: from carmax.com (82-135-179-33.dialup.takas.lt [82.135.179.33]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j55L39Jx016124 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:08:30 -0400 Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 21:08:40 +0000 From: ghostview@fdma.fdma.com Subject: Pharmacy 75% OFF To: Words-l References: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97G3HJ2E08H0DDI5@fdma.fdma.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Viagra - $3.2/pill Soma - $3.2/pill Cialis - $4.8/pill Valium - $3.5/pill Xanax - $3.8/pill Ambien - $3.4/pill Xenical - $3.5/pill Soft Viagra - $4.2/pill Levitra - 4.2$/pill Our site http://variousus.net/?GFSMKDRl1BUEYcXnNYXEJGQFFHRxxGU1QfV1dB Anti-Depressants: Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft Pain Relief: Celebrex, Soma, Vioxx Weight Loss: Meridia, Xenical Other: Levitra, Propecia, Ambien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 17:36:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j55MaJv9028854 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:36:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 17:36:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA6A49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 18:36:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2555833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 18:36:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j55MaIv6024766 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 18:36:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1904667nzo for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 15:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.8 with SMTP id n8mr202805nzc; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 15:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.13 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:36:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EbfJeDdBLgF4AVMjELMDEj9Zj4efl0zo/e6dAjAZOcsl9b3R+pZ6Fu1gs9kOq9TlHBgdlP7wlvsqAu75fCgzhSmy4IZEv7BCjS2yKd8D+w5H9MILLnzTZp67V2cQ9THy1F8Fr8/VBs0/rlxmxOOIQul/qgfZWFYm0LFep2NgWkQ= Message-ID: <945393270506051536256301c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:36:15 -0700 From: Larry Clark Reply-To: Larry Clark To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Crash" In-Reply-To: <200506050218.j552Itf3031746@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506050218.j552Itf3031746@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j55MaJv6024767 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/4/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > Interesting film. I liked it. > > Anyone else see it? > Yes. Betty and I saw it last week end and we both liked it a lot. It is an interesting film and when it comes out on DVD I'm going watch it again. I think.. I know I missed some things. Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 21:31:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j562Vjv9024712 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:31:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 21:31:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA6E61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 22:31:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2564054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:31:44 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j562VdEM012089 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:31:39 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA6E4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 5 Jun 2005 22:31:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200506060231.j562VdEM012089@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:31:38 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: "Crash" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 15:36:15 -0700, Larry Clark wrote: >On 6/4/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > >> Interesting film. I liked it. >> >> Anyone else see it? >> > >Yes. Betty and I saw it last week end and we both liked it a lot. It >is an interesting film and when it comes out on DVD I'm going watch it >again. I think.. I know I missed some things. > >Larry Yes. John and I liked it too. I wish it were already out on DVD because it would be *perfect* to show in a summer class I'm teaching now. I'll suggest that students go see it. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 5 23:13:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j564DIv9006206 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:13:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:13:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA7312@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 0:13:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2573672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 00:13:18 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j564DHP8023740 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 00:13:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 21973672 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 21:20:55 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:13:41 -0700 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:13:16 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1521070758.20050605221316@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Oil Storm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 220, in=90029, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did anyone else happen to laugh their way through two hours (about 90 minutes thanks to DVR) of that "film" on FX tonite? I'm sure they'll be repeating it a million times in the next few months. All of the worst possible cases happen, of course, causing oil to go to 155 a barrel, the world collapses, and everything short of martian invasion happens. Needless to say mindlessly simplistic and offers no answers other than "we shouldn't be so dependent on foreign oil". If you need a bunch of bad laughs and groans at a bad pseudodocumentary, feel free to waste some time with it. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 00:49:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j565nmv9019040 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 00:49:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:49:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA7448@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 1:49:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2576374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 01:49:47 -0400 Received: from imo-m15.mx.aol.com (imo-m15.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j565dkCp031525 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 01:39:46 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.ac.74a36aaa (4568) for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 01:39:44 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 01:39:44 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Oil Storm To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/5/2005 11:13:28 PM Central Daylight Time, dan@GAILNDAN.COM writes: << Did anyone else happen to laugh their way through two hours (about 90 minutes thanks to DVR) of that "film" on FX tonite? >> No, I watched episodes 5 and 6 of Twin Peaks because, even though the on-screen guide said otherwise, Second Sight wasn't on BBCAmerica. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Diane, I'm holding a small box of chocolate bunnies. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 03:36:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j568Zbv9030831 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:35:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:36:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA7787@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 4:30:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2583268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:30:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j568U6Xf015124 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:30:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2105913nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.3 with SMTP id g3mr371422nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?128.39.110.68? ([128.39.110.68]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 6sm32410nzn.2005.06.06.01.30.06; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:30:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B16kwSA7eavhgbYvMksJkk3j0baJO+ZVihIX+agI5gupbnCymPfgDp6BRY44HRL4P6V0tjbkY0rI5BSBQiyWhZv+e3avycjo9T6vRSPu0TwChbD72L9R+ewtCpa2uSPsyCskLZc3Xh6wnhm+T8q1d1UqdH5dfi6NhR0b3QkW1DE= Message-ID: <42A4098C.6090108@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:30:04 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Holy mackerel References: <200506050425.j554PQuc011387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506050425.j554PQuc011387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The one thing we have not tested with our boat is swimming - and when the sea water gets up above 17-18C we will try that as well. But yesterday we got our first fish: Ingjerd caught a mackerel as we were trolling around the islands! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 03:36:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j568Zbv9030830 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:35:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:36:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA7756@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 3:55:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2582439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:55:35 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j567tZ8w011618 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:55:35 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so1531888rne for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.13.64 with SMTP id 64mr2403981rnm; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?128.39.110.68? ([128.39.110.68]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 63sm1798797rna.2005.06.06.00.55.12; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:55:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tMn6/GS2xDIGO8y+gFO+GlVixeQb49Srkzbmn8LyHLK7TXQBsQhRYIqt+rjfAXc8KwPiC8M3BX40gGlFzina4cf5Z8UEBPClGvZpQW8SGmhIgUzmx//MA12mEfbiOD+lLYVyRc4Wx+tfQkTxJjZG4W3OzLCpM0AV/D1chH0aetI= Message-ID: <42A4015E.4070600@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:55:10 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 05.06.2005 00:01: > Boo's check plopped onto my livingroom floor this afternoon. And I was > happy to see that he's a 7-crosser. I should have been paying attention > to what others were doing with the 3715 in my address. As I think I've > mentioned before, I started crossing 7s some number of years ago and now > can't break the habit -- and don't really want to since I like crossed > 7s. They're clearer than uncrossed ones. But some people find them > . I am a 7-crosser - for some reason I believed that it was more common in certain European countries than in the USA. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 03:36:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j568Zbv9030829 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:35:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:36:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA778E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 4:17:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2582773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:17:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j568HPcA013684 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:17:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so512267nzp for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.33 with SMTP id u33mr386667nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?128.39.110.68? ([128.39.110.68]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 17sm1112506nzo.2005.06.06.01.17.25; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:17:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=njRq/om5/AmAD3QBKuchnP8q+sfzhOwWTLl5pX/HkzKqd2l/gVOjErNWPpOWQU7XrwuutkDQd1jrTeV2KUVQ2Dm+Y6orVAUtWGmOg877oHf5egK7ixA+Qkv5+kYtoSp8DJgfyCbLyXPE9Pq/GfmAUe0zGEKm3x5xwv5qg11GT8c= Message-ID: <42A40693.8010305@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:17:23 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dan is alive and well....relatively.... References: <200506050425.j554PQuc011387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506050425.j554PQuc011387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester skrev 05.06.2005 06:25: ... >Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@gailndan.com www.mylapband.tk >Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 >323/209/199 Age 62 Fair is whatever God decides to do. > > > Welcome back! And it is nice to see that there are more of us with a Tokelau domain! (Ingjerd is co-author of a book on Tokelau language.) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 03:37:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j568bov9031004 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:37:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:37:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066CF10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 4:27:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2583201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:27:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j568RnNr014951 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:27:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so515636nzp for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.32 with SMTP id u32mr390234nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?128.39.110.68? ([128.39.110.68]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 38sm214525nzk.2005.06.06.01.27.46; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:27:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=srMR5GX4Hs+dCb1rKc1625eXkwYtzM8Cpzz93aQyYJgkSh2hG5YwEkvFJleHZNb8TbrthtOm270KlQmblPJWuXDbgN0JDclc8dY9mKR8sEKCSU0FwLcGMwSWWQoavHNnQxb1/Dh24pxCy7gv2ahTDDyJeGPoSWiaJb4zeqzZBGo= Message-ID: <42A40901.6080408@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:27:45 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Cool! References: <200506050425.j554PQuc011387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506050425.j554PQuc011387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/ It is very nice to look at the inner Oslo fjord from a height of 25 kilometers - and if I go lower, I can print out images as complements to the charts we are using. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 05:24:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56AO4v9016172 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:24:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:24:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA7957@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 6:24:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2586411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:24:03 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56AO3EG026259 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:24:03 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.121]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050606102403.WJUX2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:24:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.121]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050606102402.VFJK8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:24:02 -0400 Message-ID: <42A4243B.6000201@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:23:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A4015E.4070600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42A4015E.4070600@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > I am a 7-crosser - for some reason I believed that it was more common in > certain European countries than in the USA. I've always thought of it as in Europe. Is it not? Are there non-crossers there? It's uncommon in the US, which is why I was happy to find another US 7-crossing Wordsler. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 05:27:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56ARTv9016682 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:27:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:27:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066D05A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 6:27:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2586487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:27:29 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j56ARSkx026817 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:27:28 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060612254605676 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:25:46 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:27:23 +0200 Message-ID: <42A42510.9080305@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:27:28 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Aurora References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A4015E.4070600@gmail.com> <42A4243B.6000201@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A4243B.6000201@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2005 10:27:23.0597 (UTC) FILETIME=[53E88FD0:01C56A82] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU and Marianne are here, and here is a photo of Aurora, my niece and my mother's cat: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/auceju.jpg Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 05:43:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56Agrv9018319 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:42:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:43:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA7947@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 6:42:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2586756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:42:53 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56AgrQR028560 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:42:53 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.121]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050606104253.PDIT28885.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:42:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.121]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050606104252.LHPW2762.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:42:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42A428A8.6080004@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:42:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aurora References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A4015E.4070600@gmail.com> <42A4243B.6000201@maynor.net> <42A42510.9080305@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42A42510.9080305@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > and Marianne are here, and here is a photo of Aurora, my niece and my > mother's cat: > > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/auceju.jpg Good picture! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 05:55:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56Atfv9019594 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:55:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:55:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA79DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 6:55:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2587241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:55:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56Atec2029807 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:55:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so565819nzp for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.80 with SMTP id u80mr448053nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?128.39.110.68? ([128.39.110.68]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 34sm1118283nza.2005.06.06.03.55.39; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:55:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iZepoEFQSRGWta7N+citWY/8CThlzVbfXpeQnQyuP5K/OC42u8Ld2wSBslXYWH9/SdIhjvHC1Ycr5qCv3n3PSZctRiCW5Qt3AFLo52zy7Hnb1jE9BK32IhgtIqxt/92ChYec0x415+YYz/IZtV4qedfcCYOxW4ei2mSZX6Ofrtw= Message-ID: <42A42BA8.4090402@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:55:36 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: US visitors References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A4015E.4070600@gmail.com> <42A4243B.6000201@maynor.net> <42A42510.9080305@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42A42510.9080305@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tomorrow is the big day here: 100 years since the Norwegian parlament (Storting) decided that the union with Sweden was ended. Technically and legally one might say that the union wasn't broken until there was an agreement between Norway and Sweden and the Swedish/Norwegian king Oscar II abdicated from the Norwegian throne, but tomorrow is the big day in any case. And coming here to celebrate are navy ships and sailing ships from quite a lot of places - there is a large Polish sailing ship, an Indian navy ship etc. Yesterday we saw a lot of these visitors when we were out with our boat. In all the excitement, and the first fish, and Aurora who had had enough of boating, finally, and started to cry, I forgot to close the bottom valve. (Yes, Clyde, I will make a check-list for start and stop now and put it up beside the wheel.) Since I am going to Canada next weekend and will be away for 8 days, it might be a few weeks until we are going out with the boat again, so I felt that I had to close that valve, and brought my lunch bag and went out to the island where Agia Anna lies in my lunch break. And when I stood up after I had closed the valve, and stuck my head out of our not-so-large boat, across the bay I saw this: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/gjester.jpg coming in to the Oslo harbour. (Note by the way that the people in the house boat in the foreground seem to have stocked up on firewood for the coming winter.) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 07:08:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56C8Wv9028673 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:08:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 07:08:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066D0CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 8:08:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2591225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:08:32 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56C8Wl5029338 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:08:32 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-74.gwi.net [216.195.164.74]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j56C8S0o090251; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:08:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050606080213.01beed90@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:03:51 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: US visitors In-Reply-To: <42A42BA8.4090402@gmail.com> References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A4015E.4070600@gmail.com> <42A4243B.6000201@maynor.net> <42A42510.9080305@gmail.com> <42A42BA8.4090402@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:55 AM 6/6/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >... And when I stood up after I had >closed the valve, and stuck my head out of our not-so-large boat, across >the bay I saw this: > >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/gjester.jpg > >coming in to the Oslo harbour. Well, let's hope that it's part of the celebration and not because somebody told Dubya that you guys have oil. Happy Celebration. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 07:29:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56CTAv9031195 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:29:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 07:29:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA7BFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 8:19:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2592080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:19:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56CJ3xI030743 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:19:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1843096wra for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.34.16 with SMTP id h16mr3194150wrh; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:19:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=c8aNv4kg7/tgqPcgEcQm3DvMwHoRQNRHiyw9lhBrSLXfxEbNgNQ4FXfVJ6f1rPLmnuH5+M6kyW0PpR7D6QNVjKCgfXzNwBp8kV0PyCcstZmHVw2VUKbZ6rMj0QpHVsvZohmhTAJg9fp9SvlrBMrVAApw0IKSNRrfAgt8tUKbcNg= Message-ID: <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:19:03 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56CJ4xI030745 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/3/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Giggles, Alyce, and Brad all died at home. What about... I can't > remember his name. The guy who was with us for a short time and had > great art. Was he at home or in a nursing home? > > Karen > And Theo, she was still at home I think, although she had been in and out of the hospital around that time. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 07:32:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56CW4v9031429 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:32:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 07:32:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA7C61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 8:32:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2592863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:32:03 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56CW3dO032195 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:32:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1846935wra for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.49.26 with SMTP id w26mr3201605wrw; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 05:32:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=D6aWIXL/h7KHEqqNd8LDXKt0/R9LG1i7ek3rAIEMSMxFRXpL12nG77CQj6nDz6ZSBxb6AaHApn+jwZ5j44XT11BSqQa9oVjxYuiKxA1IPayMD+OZqugua4G6ik6v0Kd68y2THfE8jM5ma1xxMjmid9iOGZ05DPtmVglYmo1qJ7I= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:32:03 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aurora In-Reply-To: <42A42510.9080305@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A4015E.4070600@gmail.com> <42A4243B.6000201@maynor.net> <42A42510.9080305@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j56CW4v9031429 > > and Marianne are here, and here is a photo of Aurora, my niece and my > mother's cat: > > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/auceju.jpg > > Espen > Nice looking niece! -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 08:40:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56DeLv9008308 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:40:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:40:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA7F2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 9:40:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2598429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:40:21 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56DeKLg009571; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:40:20 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 67141427; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 06:40:19 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050606064043.02721bb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 06:41:32 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Holy mackerel In-Reply-To: <42A4098C.6090108@gmail.com> References: <200506050425.j554PQuc011387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42A4098C.6090108@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:30 AM 6/6/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >The one thing we have not tested with our boat is swimming - and when >the sea water gets up above 17-18C we will try that as well. But >yesterday we got our first fish: Ingjerd caught a mackerel as we were >trolling around the islands! > >Espen Ingjerd sounds like the neatest person! I'm glad you found each other again. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 08:42:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56Dgbv9008657 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:42:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:42:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA7F42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 9:42:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2598619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:42:31 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56DgUYs009911 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:42:30 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 67141967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 06:42:28 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050606064240.0272f1c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 06:43:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Aurora In-Reply-To: <42A428A8.6080004@maynor.net> References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A4015E.4070600@gmail.com> <42A4243B.6000201@maynor.net> <42A42510.9080305@gmail.com> <42A428A8.6080004@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:42 AM 6/6/2005, you wrote: >Espen S. Ore wrote: > >>and Marianne are here, and here is a photo of Aurora, my niece and my >>mother's cat: >> >>http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/auceju.jpg > >Good picture! > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes! Don't you love watching them discover? I got to sit and watch Nathaniel wake up Friday morning. I'm glad he didn't look at me and scream! He smiled. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 09:11:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56EBHv9012423 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:11:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:11:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA7FB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 9:51:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2599420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:51:15 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56DpFIq011481 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:51:15 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 88CE16239AC30 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:51:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000f01c56a9f$048e0dd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:52:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Wild" To: Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:19 AM Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > On 6/3/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> Giggles, Alyce, and Brad all died at home. What about... I can't >> remember his name. The guy who was with us for a short time and had >> great art. Was he at home or in a nursing home? >> >> Karen >> > > And Theo, she was still at home I think, although she had been in and > out of the hospital around that time. > > Terry Maybe Wordslers die at home because their hospital doesn't have internet access for patients. I'm aware of this because Gene is having surgery tomorrow. Having a knee replacement. He wanted to have both his knees done at once but the kids talked him out of it. So now we will have to go through two surgeries with all its painful rehab. I have sewing and a book packed for my long days at the hospital. Haven't found a way to use my laptop there. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 09:55:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56Etiv9017764 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:55:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:55:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066D5BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:45:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2605361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:45:43 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56EjhNf022410 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:45:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA8233@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:45:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200506061445.j56EjhNf022410@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:45:43 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: The Gee's Knees To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:52:45 -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > >Maybe Wordslers die at home because their >hospital doesn't have internet access for >patients. > >I'm aware of this because Gene is having surgery >tomorrow. Having a knee replacement. He wanted >to have both his knees done at once but the kids >talked him out of it. So now we will have to go >through two surgeries with all its painful rehab. > >I have sewing and a book packed for my long days >at the hospital. Haven't found a way to use my >laptop there. > > - D. M. Oh, my! My dad went through the double knee replacement about ten years ago. It was very, very hard, even for a guy who used to sew up his own cuts. I wish Gene a speedy recovery and for you, a nearby internet cafe'. Do you have some interesting stitching in process, or is this just pass-the-time sewing? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:04:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lv9026842 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:03:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:04:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA836C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:18:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2608028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:18:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56FI7kA028746 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:18:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2303461nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.56 with SMTP id w56mr585515nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:18:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NbLDRZRZxASaosleJ9da6GfYKWonuaARfleTuBN7NyujEfP0tUHidHVrSW4h9wctdbHPeJwc+v5wi/BEmBtGuiHvrbdbsV6ImF84ZXG289L2BraZrD4zxC8Y1bvclXNgUF9ZauCv2hImKF7fF1a0mMJTQ3N1zoDi4zXC+VayP68= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060608187bbb8583@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:18:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Girls with Amnesia are Hot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56FI8kA028747 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So Hot. Southpaw Jones From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:04:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lv9026839 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:03:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:04:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA82EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:53:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2606304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:53:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56ErYIO024204 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:53:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2285995nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 07:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.3 with SMTP id g3mr554280nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 07:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:53:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cM77WDAibz20fUzUv1Ea/UBqIxbgmZXlVqTnINgSNohngahYmGY5qq9Fj4JdIi18cIIIJl3j4fqa3vCUbU+JXBuDFbbwk/wSdfc6R6zapTF4K2SeOxHEmOQ3RDRCxwX6vnHBt8BguKiep/rryCYR7VXwgvz8efmOAkeq2ItLLko= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:53:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Meetings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56ErYIO024205 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time when meetings can't be scheduled. Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:04:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lv9026843 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:03:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:04:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA8369@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:05:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2607340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:05:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56F5QQm026851 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:05:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2294357nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.126.9 with SMTP id y9mr576547nzc; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:05:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EpjgvXqvgEZcFsqMF7/CcATjKKqJYlyZ1V7cOZXebF4LXPkPlX77XwrdhdkHJzk8/M0NtNCmS4bPuMpQJ7yS+LNIOOS6dXIVhmqVFYh/mVZzKe7DzHSaToOBDlGhwx0kj54Lls0WZZEzjUbuEPqqoixXtAFXDE1rnd8c8vvM218= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060608057662f059@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:05:23 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings In-Reply-To: <42A463F8.5070100@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <42A463F8.5070100@bc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56F5RQm026853 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > Are you sure that "think time" is not a euphemism for what we call > "early release" here? Here's the blurb: It's your time Friday afternoons free of meetings Due to high workload and demanding pressures throughout XXX, employees are finding they have limited, uninterrupted time within their average work day. This impacts our ability to think and innovate, focus on people management responsibilities, and improve our skills. With an effective date of June 3, Think Fridays are designed to provide XXX employees with a block of protected time on Friday afternoons -- free of any meetings. Think Fridays will follow these guiding principles: * All organizations within XXX will participate. * No meetings are to be scheduled on Friday afternoons after 12 noon in the local time zone. Exceptions can be made for critical, client-related issues; it should not be a common practice. * If a meeting is required, an executive has to cover the meeting. * Encourage all employees to use the afternoon as they deem appropriate. For example, this could include working on a project or patent, taking a class, or managers focusing on employees. * This is not intended be a "summer" program, and it will continue indefinitely at this time. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:04:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lv9026841 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:03:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:04:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA8304@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:03:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2607144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:03:14 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56F3EWi026359 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:03:14 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:03:13 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:03:07 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Meetings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Old Tom Watson would be proud. When I was in Jr Hi and lived in the house in which T.J.W. was born, I saw that portrait of him at his desk and that one-word slogan every day. As you can tell, the image had more effect on me than the slogan. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/6/2005 10:53:33 AM >>> My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time when meetings can't be scheduled. Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:04:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lvA026839 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:04:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:04:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA85C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:58:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2612747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:58:22 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56FwM3B004298 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:58:22 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:58:22 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:58:14 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: re MJ on CNN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Jackson is suffering excruciating physical pain yet remaining resolute and strong in his conviction of his innocence, the Rev. Jesse Jackson told CNN this morning." "...conviction of his innocence..." ???? surely there's a better way to say this - since it's not a diect quote from the Rev BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:04:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lvA026840 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:04:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:04:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA85F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:02:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2613121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:02:08 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56G28MA005056 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:02:08 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FCD0F1924EA4 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:02:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001301c56ab1$603663a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Meetings Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:04:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:53 AM Subject: Meetings > My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has > designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time > when meetings can't be scheduled. > > Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! > > Karen Maybe if you were out sitting by a lake or . . no, I've got it . . don't you do your best thinking after about four beers? You might suggest that. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:04:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lv9026840 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:03:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:04:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA82B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:55:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2606502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:55:53 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56EtqnL024717 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:55:53 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 96011469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:55:23 -0400 Message-ID: <42A463F8.5070100@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:55:52 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has >designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time >when meetings can't be scheduled. > >Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! > >Karen > > Are you sure that "think time" is not a euphemism for what we call "early release" here? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:04:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lvA026842 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:04:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:04:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA83BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:21:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2608157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:21:00 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56FKakO029054 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:20:36 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j56FKavT028828 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:20:37 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j56FJPKY022362 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:19:27 -0400 Message-ID: <0a8b01c56aab$20d24450$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <42A463F8.5070100@bc.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Meetings Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:19:24 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Leonard" > > Are you sure that "think time" is not a euphemism for what we call > "early release" here? > > Rita L. ;-) shhhhhhhh... Tower, this is Ford F-150, cleared in pre-flight, destination: the mountains! 'Looking to taxi into position for take-off. 'Requesting clearance. Over. shhhhhhhhh... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:04:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lvB026842 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:04:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:04:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA8609@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:04:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2613312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:04:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56G4ZVU005366 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:04:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2340151nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.76 with SMTP id t76mr597805nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:04:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JOm3LwNaoFEiFkNxZVsa1oYlLx05Zgx5T2mbGbdDCNh/uOmenynsXDN6al6dBKc8VTL4MZ2viQQrmKkMYkT0jRlYY92pPqGl5Do/0a5T9k4X7qTyLxdZ1dDVR5xy+vUlpu9nDQOcbAfPLqxE96o3Nl3JttglpMffeHMUoory+68= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060609042061ecf6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:04:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings In-Reply-To: <001301c56ab1$603663a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <001301c56ab1$603663a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56G4aVU005367 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:53 AM > Subject: Meetings > > > > My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has > > designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time > > when meetings can't be scheduled. > > > > Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! > > > > Karen > > > Maybe if you were out sitting by a lake > > or . . no, I've got it . . don't you do your > > best thinking after about four beers? > > You might suggest that. You have me confused with 'lan. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:04:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lvA026841 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:04:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:04:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA859F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:59:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2612920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:59:36 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56FxZj7004550 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:59:36 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ECE63E05066A1 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:59:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c56ab1$0510a620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200506061445.j56EjhNf022410@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: The Gee's Knees Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:01:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Ostrander" To: Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: The Gee's Knees > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:52:45 -0500, Doris Markland > wrote: >> >>Maybe Wordslers die at home because their >>hospital doesn't have internet access for >>patients. >> >>I'm aware of this because Gene is having surgery >>tomorrow. Having a knee replacement. He wanted >>to have both his knees done at once but the kids >>talked him out of it. So now we will have to go >>through two surgeries with all its painful rehab. >> >>I have sewing and a book packed for my long days >>at the hospital. Haven't found a way to use my >>laptop there. >> >> - D. M. > > Oh, my! My dad went through the double knee replacement > about ten years ago. It was very, very hard, even > for a guy who used to sew up his own cuts. I wish > Gene a speedy recovery and for you, a nearby internet > cafe'. Do you have some interesting stitching in > process, or is this just pass-the-time sewing? > clo I put together some doll quilts to lap quilt. When I don't have a little girl in the family wanting one I sometimes sell them on eBay. The hospital isn't all that far from home. I'll be back and forth after he's stable and resting. Thanks. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:05:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G3lvB026840 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:04:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:05:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA85CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:04:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2613321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:04:38 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56G4cqH005384 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:04:38 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EE492744CD799 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:04:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002201c56ab1$b9f05c20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: re MJ on CNN Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:06:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: re MJ on CNN > "Jackson is suffering excruciating physical pain yet remaining resolute > and strong in his conviction of his innocence, the Rev. Jesse Jackson > told CNN this morning." > > "...conviction of his innocence..." ???? > > surely there's a better way to say this - since it's not a diect quote > from the Rev > > BrP You wonder who convinced him. The Revvvv Jackson perhaps? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:08:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56G8Lv9027627 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:08:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:08:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA8661@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:08:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2613895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:08:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56G8KeV006207 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:08:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2343302nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.59 with SMTP id w59mr618035nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:08:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LdTvARUx8NdI4ufJ7raC8FaFnrznxG3/XDcJMjcaMICLjnAcTVPCfYguZhI5UqxcWUORd11Ma7/ZdeyX/dQZhVXeGesXLNoXb8ZcJGbai2MKpWgUVF1OHAE8Ey6KN3icI/1PPMYhGLVONz8JTSYnd0h6v7GYSMXJKahvTEy85NA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060609084b8f0d88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:08:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re MJ on CNN In-Reply-To: <002201c56ab1$b9f05c20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <002201c56ab1$b9f05c20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56G8KeV006212 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Convinced or convicted? On 6/6/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Barfoot" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:58 AM > Subject: re MJ on CNN > > > > "Jackson is suffering excruciating physical pain yet remaining resolute > > and strong in his conviction of his innocence, the Rev. Jesse Jackson > > told CNN this morning." > > > > "...conviction of his innocence..." ???? > > > > surely there's a better way to say this - since it's not a diect quote > > from the Rev > > > > BrP > > > You wonder who convinced him. The Revvvv Jackson perhaps? > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:25:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56GPdv9029877 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:25:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:25:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA8723@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:25:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2615494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:25:38 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56GPcSS009076 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:25:38 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56GPadq094210 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:25:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:25:36 -0500 (CDT) From: because I can X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> Message-ID: References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.2, Antispam-Data: 2005.6.6.17 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Not me. I do NOT forge addresses, headers, etc, etc. Whoa. Wait a minute. Some of you people think I am forging e-mail addresses? What???????????? WTF? I still use pine, fer krissakes. -- Richard, yeah, the real one From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:55:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56Gtlv9001725 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:55:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:55:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA882C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:45:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2617597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:45:47 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56GjkHY012487 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:45:46 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B52DF1925F63 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:44:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c56ab7$5c4e4540$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <001301c56ab1$603663a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705060609042061ecf6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Meetings Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:46:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >> Maybe if you were out sitting by a lake >> >> or . . no, I've got it . . don't you do your >> >> best thinking after about four beers? >> >> You might suggest that. > > You have me confused with 'lan. I didn't mean YOU you . . just a non-personal reference to anyone. like you know, or they say. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:56:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56Gtlv9001726 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:55:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:55:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA8832@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:52:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2618265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:51:57 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56GpubK013524 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:51:56 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j56Gpt5u026262 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:51:55 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j56GpsCK026260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:51:54 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:51:54 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aurora Message-ID: <20050606165154.GA26244@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A4015E.4070600@gmail.com> <42A4243B.6000201@maynor.net> <42A42510.9080305@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:32:03AM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: = > = > and Marianne are here, and here is a photo of Aurora, my niece and my = > mother's cat: = > = > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/auceju.jpg = > = > Espen = > = Nice looking niece! = It's a good thing I know how to read email addresses out of headers, because I was had to look to make sure this wasn't Alec. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 11:56:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56Gtlv9001728 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:55:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:55:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA8850@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:55:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2618602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:55:14 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56GtDf9014189 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:55:13 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j56GtCDL026298 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:55:12 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j56GtCP1026296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:55:12 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:55:12 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings Message-ID: <20050606165512.GB26244@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! = = Karen No, but I haven't had any useful meetings then either. It's either too late for the job at hand (something happening on the weekend), or no one is interested in what is going on. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 12:19:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56HJGv9004590 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:19:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:19:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA88CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:59:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2619036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:59:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56GxEqJ015087 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:59:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so4506nzk for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.21 with SMTP id t21mr651003nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:59:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=t1AkFNcP955DoNNEyR725qjI61AnLEAEGpQq6nv3CLGRawkdDwuQf0bglLgcDRdxe7lHq2qacLsyM9G/oc4Hio+PLn4j3+VVLX0YINjq5su2PaWfKJRWp2CCgC7jfzmzih2QIwKOpLUg24M3z8ncW6U7tch99LBBWtoZmwSyeKA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050606095950697e38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:59:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings In-Reply-To: <20050606165512.GB26244@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <20050606165512.GB26244@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56GxEqJ015090 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, steph wrote: > = > = Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! > = > = Karen > > No, but I haven't had any useful meetings then either. It's either too > late for the job at hand (something happening on the weekend), or no one > is interested in what is going on. Too true. I think calling it Think Time is disingenuous--contractors aren't allowed to think about work at the lake anyway. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 12:37:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56HbRv9006608 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:37:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:37:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA8992@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:27:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2621316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:27:26 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56HRPRr019949 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:27:26 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22016503 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:35:09 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:27:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:27:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <763121118.20050606112718@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dan is alive and well....relatively.... In-Reply-To: <42A40693.8010305@gmail.com> References: <200506050425.j554PQuc011387@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42A40693.8010305@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 220, in=90303, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 2:17 AM, Espen S. Ore wrote: ESO> Welcome back! And it is nice to see that there are ESO> more of us with a ESO> Tokelau domain! (Ingjerd is co-author of a book on ESO> Tokelau language.) Yes, I have one. And one of these days I'll get there, as well as a number of other places in the South Pacific I've not been to: Kiribati, Tuvalu, Fiji, and maybe even Niue and Pitcairn. I do collect the stamps of the South Pacific, particularly the former British territories. Yeah, I'm around....and hope to start back to work tomorrow, assuming the doctor gives his blessing today (and hopefully pulls the remaining Jackson-Pratt drain). Could go back with the drain, but would be an irritation. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 12:38:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56HbRv9006607 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:37:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:37:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA8A03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:32:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2621613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:32:06 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56HW5bT020604 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:32:05 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2005060617332811300q0f18e>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:33:28 +0000 Message-Id: <200506061732.j56HW5bT020604@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Aurora Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:32:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050606165154.GA26244@yoccoz.multinix.com> Thread-Index: AcVquEaLOsw3dYO1QnCXqI1kzAiLJAABTQUw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of steph >Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:52 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Aurora > >On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:32:03AM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: >= > >= > and Marianne are here, and here is a photo of Aurora, my >niece and my >= > mother's cat: >= > >= > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/auceju.jpg >= > >= > Espen >= > >= Nice looking niece! >= > >It's a good thing I know how to read email addresses out of headers, >because I was had to look to make sure this wasn't Alec. > I missed an oppurtunity. She is indeed a pretty one. Alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 12:38:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56HbRvA006608 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:37:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:38:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA89CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:36:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2621821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:36:03 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56Ha36f021110 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:36:03 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22017552 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:43:47 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:36:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:35:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <542065180.20050606113554@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <000f01c56a9f$048e0dd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c56a9f$048e0dd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 220, in=90310, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 7:52 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> I'm aware of this because Gene is having surgery DM> tomorrow. Having a knee replacement. He wanted DM> to have both his knees done at once but the kids DM> talked him out of it. So now we will have to go DM> through two surgeries with all its painful rehab. I have a good friend who has had one done, has rehabbed well, and will have second one done soon. He thought he wanted both done at once too, but once he realized that he'd have to spend much longer in a health facility due to inability to walk for an extended time, wouldn't be able to get himself to toilet, have strength to lift self off the toilet, etc, he decided the doctor was right to recommend one at a time. He may be quite a bit heavier than Gene (have no idea of Gene's size or weight), but that sounded like good reasons to me. I hope he'll do well. The friend says the rehab is indeed painful for a while, but it gets better every day. Best wishes to both of you. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 12:48:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56HmIv9007775 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:48:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:48:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA8A31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:40:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2622116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:40:49 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56HenMw021794 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:40:49 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-74.gwi.net [216.195.164.74]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j56Heh0o050103; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:40:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050606133751.01c00218@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:39:18 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Meetings In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:53 AM 6/6/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has >designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time >when meetings can't be scheduled. > >Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! On oft-quoted slogan in TVA: Progress is achieved on alternate Fridays. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 12:48:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56HmIv9007777 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:48:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:48:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA8A3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:42:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2622199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:42:20 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56HgK72022060 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:42:20 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22018304 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:50:03 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:42:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:42:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1871192657.20050606114214@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Meetings In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 220, in=90319, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 9:03 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> Old Tom Watson would be proud. When I was in Jr Hi PB> and lived in the PB> house in which T.J.W. was born, I saw that portrait PB> of him at his desk PB> and that one-word slogan every day. As you can PB> tell, the image had more PB> effect on me than the slogan. I still have a "THINK" sign that lives on my desk, a gift from IBM when attending a week long library automation seminar in Poughkeepsie in 68. That was back when they were trying to decide whether or not to say in the library technology market (i.e. the software), and they made the right decision not to. Was a nice week at their luxurious "executive conference facility" or whatever they called it. Of course even then, they still had the company songs and still forbade the purchase of alcohol at company expense. Not sure on current status of either policy at present. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 12:48:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56HmIv9007771 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:48:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:48:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA8A53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:45:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2622441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:45:44 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56Hji1C022796 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:45:44 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21811850 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:07:12 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:46:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:42 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <3410084732.20050606114542@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: re MJ on CNN In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 220, in=77728, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 9:58 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> "...conviction of his innocence..." ???? PB> surely there's a better way to say this - since it's PB> not a diect quote PB> from the Rev Saw interview this morning live on Today Show. He said that he believed MJ was innocent and would be so found. He said something about MJs behavior being "abnormal but not criminal". Don't think "abnormal" was the exact word, but similar. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 12:48:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56HmIv9007774 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:48:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:48:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA89DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:38:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2621928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:38:17 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56HcH56021389 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:38:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22077134 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:38:36 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:38:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:38:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <563807858.20050606113815@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Meetings In-Reply-To: <42A463F8.5070100@bc.edu> References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <42A463F8.5070100@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 218, in=76688, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 8:55 AM, Rita Leonard wrote: RL> Are you sure that "think time" is not a euphemism RL> for what we call RL> "early release" here? Or what HP used to call some euphemism for "Friday keggers". They quite it about 95, and I'd have to ask Gail, but don't want to call her at work to ask (she's not been at HP for over five years, of course, after the early retirement). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 13:11:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56IBOv9010486 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:11:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA8AB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:01:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2623689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:01:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56I1NJ1025471 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:01:23 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so50535nzk for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.59 with SMTP id w59mr690137nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:01:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rU8LCUmuCHNoic+CmA4N02ZIPpzb/XcI9i+bReKo/orHMQiUvKTgpdp3M45gr41zYM9YbQzpUjqNV6ShMcrg6/dK70frEG9LNhGPrCB2mnQKDGYz/9vq+/W/KZyzVRjNt+ndHx9tEBWDUXLo9PZov+Yroa9y4LUXYgGqPxCyQ8o= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060611011312dfd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:01:23 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings In-Reply-To: <1871192657.20050606114214@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1871192657.20050606114214@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56I1OJ1025473 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Of course even then, they still had the company songs and still > forbade the purchase of alcohol at company expense. Not sure on > current status of either policy at present. No alcohol anywhere. I'll ask about the songs. Karen who, some days, could use a drink From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 13:27:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56IQtv9011751 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:26:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:27:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA8BEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:26:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2625845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:26:54 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56IQsiK029837 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:26:54 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CD8355123799 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:26:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001701c56ac5$996df930$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c56a9f$048e0dd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <542065180.20050606113554@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Grissom Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:28:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Brad Grissom > 6/6/2005, 7:52 AM, Doris Markland wrote: > > DM> I'm aware of this because Gene is having surgery > DM> tomorrow. Having a knee replacement. He wanted > DM> to have both his knees done at once but the kids > DM> talked him out of it. So now we will have to go > DM> through two surgeries with all its painful rehab. > > I have a good friend who has had one done, has rehabbed > well, and will have second one done soon. He thought he wanted both > done at once too, but once he realized that he'd have to spend much > longer in a health facility due to inability to walk for an extended > time, wouldn't be able to get himself to toilet, have strength to lift > self off the toilet, etc, he decided the doctor was right to recommend > one at a time. > > He may be quite a bit heavier than Gene (have no idea of Gene's size > or weight), but that sounded like good reasons to me. I hope he'll do > well. The friend says the rehab is indeed painful for a while, but it > gets better every day. > > Best wishes to both of you. > > dan Thanks. Gene is quite fit at probably 165. Thinner since his heart surgery. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 13:33:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56IXav9012504 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:33:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:33:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA8BDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:33:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2626271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:33:35 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56IXZL4030815 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:33:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22024731 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:41:19 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:33:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:33:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1627031798.20050606123333@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <001701c56ac5$996df930$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c56a9f$048e0dd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <542065180.20050606113554@gailndan.com> <001701c56ac5$996df930$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 221, in=90354, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 12:28 PM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> Thanks. Gene is quite fit at probably 165. Thinner DM> since DM> his heart surgery. That's great. It'll help him a great deal. My friend probably weighs at least double that. Best wishes to both of you. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 14:18:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56JI5v9018878 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:18:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 14:18:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA8D6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:08:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2628412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:08:04 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56IvwUA002581 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:57:58 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j56Ivv2M007438 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:57:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200506061857.j56Ivv2M007438@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie wrote: > Espen S. Ore wrote: > > > I am a 7-crosser - for some reason I believed that it was more common in > > certain European countries than in the USA. > > I've always thought of it as in Europe. Is it not? Are > there non-crossers there? It's uncommon in the US, which is why I was > happy to find another US 7-crossing Wordsler. Here's another US 7-crossing Wordsler --- I suspect it's more common among scientific types ... I suspect scientific types are also more likely to cross their zeros (I do it to distinguish 0 from O). Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 14:18:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56JI5v9018880 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:18:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 14:18:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA8D82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:10:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2629433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:10:29 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56JASpJ004947 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:10:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22088421 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:10:47 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:10:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:10:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9410517008.20050606131026@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Thanks, Boo In-Reply-To: <200506061857.j56Ivv2M007438@math.umb.edu> References: <200506061857.j56Ivv2M007438@math.umb.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 218, in=76762, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 12:57 PM, Joan Boorstein wrote: JB> Here's another US 7-crossing Wordsler --- I suspect JB> it's more common among JB> scientific types ... I suspect scientific types are JB> also more likely to JB> cross their zeros (I do it to distinguish 0 from O). Yup. I picked mine up (crossing sevens and zeros) from both science and ham radio. At one point was K0EJU (slashed zero,ofcourse) among many other calls. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 14:27:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56JQvv9019776 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:26:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 14:27:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA8DF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:26:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2630835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:26:57 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56JQuPI008659 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:26:57 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1802218rnf for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.3.31 with SMTP id f31mr18730rni; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:26:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fc+7dgUEnI1IsUPg3o3pcM0uUXqDGzUFV5ZvUU6nMQi1K6E8RmtErQ/c2djoJY3sPag7kblzMM2WerCfjKHE9oI91c2YDKst5pA/uu8EgdlT+czirRaHUksOqcMGYliWGHFoLXHEYj/FRoQ4jvGFbCTELOLyqZaaV1hqpKs9Z0Y= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:26:56 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings In-Reply-To: <1871192657.20050606114214@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1871192657.20050606114214@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56JQvPI008660 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/6/2005, 9:03 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > PB> Old Tom Watson would be proud. When I was in Jr Hi > PB> and lived in the > PB> house in which T.J.W. was born, I saw that portrait > PB> of him at his desk > PB> and that one-word slogan every day. As you can > PB> tell, the image had more > PB> effect on me than the slogan. I think I missed this part about living in TJW's house. How did that happen? > I still have a "THINK" sign that lives on my desk, a gift from IBM > when attending a week long library automation seminar in Poughkeepsie > in 68. That was back when they were trying to decide whether or not to > say in the library technology market (i.e. the software), and they > made the right decision not to. Was a nice week at their luxurious > "executive conference facility" or whatever they called it. In the early 70s you could purchase THINK signs from the publications catalogue, for a pittance. SInce they had them in many languages, I got two of the oddest I could think of: Braille, and Urdu. Now I' wish I'd got the whole set of 30 or so. Oh yes - the Braille one was listed in the catalogue as "Think sign - Braille (visual only)". But actually it does have raised dots, though doubtless too large for a Braille reader to comprehend at any speed. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 15:13:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56KD4v9024937 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:13:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:13:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066DD7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:43:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2632424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:43:01 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56Jh0RH011573 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:43:01 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22091985 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:43:20 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:43:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:42:59 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1093623948.20050606134259@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Meetings In-Reply-To: References: <1871192657.20050606114214@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 218, in=76777, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 1:26 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: TH> In the early 70s you could purchase THINK signs from TH> the publications TH> catalogue, for a pittance. Yeah, the one I have fits the "trinket" category. Might have cost them a buck back then, if that. Triangular piece of wood, metal plate with the sacred word on one side, felt on one side, plain wood on one side. Just a memory of days long ago when we used IBM 357 card readers to read punched ID cards (size of tab card stubs, not exactly credit card size) and to read punched cards that were in backs of books. They produced duplicate cards on an 026 (later upgraded to 029) and the cards went nightly over to be processed on a 360. Each morning we get six carbon copies of "the prinout" which listed all books checked out, in call number order. And in those days it also listed the ID number of the student/faculty who had it, and all could see the info from these that were left on counter for perusal. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 15:15:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56KEqv9025103 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:14:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:14:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9015@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:14:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2634509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:14:25 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j56K4LAN015084 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:04:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 73567 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Jun 2005 20:04:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:04:20 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings Message-ID: <20050606200420.GA70888@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:03:07AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Old Tom Watson would be proud. When I was in Jr Hi and lived in the > house in which T.J.W. was born, I saw that portrait of him at his desk > and that one-word slogan every day. As you can tell, the image had more > effect on me than the slogan. > > BrP Please don't say "Old Tom Watson". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 15:15:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56KEqv9025101 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:14:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:15:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA8F47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:54:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2633221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:54:51 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56JsoJ8013339 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:54:51 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:54:50 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:54:16 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Meetings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Watson gave his 100 acre family farm and the farmhouse (where he was born) and $1million wort of IBM stock to the Methodist Church in the early 50s to create a conference center. It is called Watson Homestead see: http://www.watsonhomestead.com/ My Dad was Exec Director there during the years I was in Jr Hi and we lived in the farmhouse. It was filled with Watson family memorabilia. I never met Tom Sr but I did meet Tom Jr and Jeanette Kittredge Watson (wife of Sr and Mother of Jr). BrP >>> tharminc@GMAIL.COM 6/6/2005 3:26:56 PM >>> I think I missed this part about living in TJW's house. How did that happen? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 15:32:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56KWiv9026998 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:32:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:32:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA908F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:22:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2635334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:22:43 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j56KCg2P016566 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:12:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 86874 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Jun 2005 20:12:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:12:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish Message-ID: <20050606201242.GA84686@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:25:36AM -0500, because I can wrote: > > Not me. I do NOT forge addresses, headers, etc, etc. > > Whoa. > > Wait a minute. > > Some of you people think I am forging e-mail addresses? > > What???????????? > > WTF? I still use pine, fer krissakes. > > -- > Richard, yeah, the real one They don't think anything. They basically say whatever the hell pops in their heads, and true to the era we live in, it's approximate and garbled. If you change your signature, there will be about 50 people who will not recognize you AT ALL. And let's not blame this on idiotic mail software and gmail and shit ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 16:48:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56LmKv9002621 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:48:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:48:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA93D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:48:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2643166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:48:20 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56LmJAd031171 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:48:19 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.2]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050606214819.NMV5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:48:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.2]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050606214819.HEEC7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:48:19 -0400 Message-ID: <42A4C49E.2050608@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:48:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Printers Don't Cross Sevens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just as I was getting into this fun of looking at how Wordslers write 3715 Greenwich, Karen's check arrived -- in an envelope with what I started to call a "typed" address but I guess probably had something to do with a printer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 16:49:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56LnWv9002743 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:49:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:49:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA9416@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:49:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2643223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:49:32 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56LnWHg031300 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:49:32 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.2]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050606214932.OCN5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:49:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.2]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050606214931.HENL7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:49:31 -0400 Message-ID: <42A4C4E7.7010206@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:49:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >And Theo, she was still at home I think, although she had been in and >out of the hospital around that time. > > Oops! I feel guilty for having forgotten Theo. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 17:00:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56M0Iv9003657 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:00:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:00:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA944A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:59:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2643628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:59:29 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56LxTvh032259 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:59:29 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.2]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050606215929.VGG5762.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:59:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.2]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050606215928.HHKV7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:59:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42A4C73B.6030201@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:59:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo References: <200506061857.j56Ivv2M007438@math.umb.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506061857.j56Ivv2M007438@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan Boorstein wrote: >Here's another US 7-crossing Wordsler --- I suspect it's more common among >scientific types ... I suspect scientific types are also more likely to >cross their zeros (I do it to distinguish 0 from O). > > It's interesting that I cross sevens always but am a crosser of zeroes.. I don't do it normally -- as in writing down a date or a phone number or an address or whatever. But I do it (or rather did it) when analyzing linguistic data, whether counting stuff and making notes of the counting or writing on a board about null forms as zero forms or whatever. I cross sevens no matter what I'm doing with them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 17:00:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56M0Hv9003655 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:00:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:00:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA942D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:50:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2643253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:50:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56LoEIv031372 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:50:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2569494nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 14:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.66 with SMTP id t66mr830989nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 14:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:50:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WuDdE7SwxOtKtsyZc45ytea5159aFrZfvSIM0iWydAE5A5jWke6MuTUfnSSh4Z49AAWUCnf5JnlDHWqmRtm2udEV4aEQSFtPYVyMAcj/LyVMpJ5e+d5HMuAsg1oFiMIe+enRZd4R7spTxbqJeg36cSq5xajS4XOWmX9452ucRpY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060614505862ff5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:50:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Printers Don't Cross Sevens In-Reply-To: <42A4C49E.2050608@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A4C49E.2050608@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56LoEIv031373 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Just as I was getting into this fun of looking at how Wordslers write > 3715 Greenwich, Karen's check arrived -- in an envelope with what I > started to call a "typed" address but I guess probably had something to > do with a printer. Yes. Printed off my handy-dandy laser printer. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 17:00:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56M0Iv9003656 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:00:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:00:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA9421@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:51:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2643314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:51:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56LpJHs031535 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:51:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2570140nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 14:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.21 with SMTP id w21mr832045nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 14:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:51:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QS2qPc7lkWJPQ8LVz3+9x4XUFlXW2b1DQxea/XGV9EAjvZYb8hxTSCniYkhx90/eaUEymmjkwPSyTk3BriInhAw+R10Tfc3S43/ScTMg3ihN24GGhzBz7zvo/yLEhFBr1VkWUWbDFhL23dKcus0BG0a8DDZA3IRTGwU6kpo7f44= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060614511b1ac52d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:51:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <42A4C4E7.7010206@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> <42A4C4E7.7010206@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56LpKHs031536 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Terry Wild wrote: > > >And Theo, she was still at home I think, although she had been in and > >out of the hospital around that time. > > > > > Oops! I feel guilty for having forgotten Theo. Me, too, but I rationalized it by saying that she hadn't been on the list a lot the last year or so of her life. We've had a hella lot of deaths, haven't we? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 18:56:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j56Nukv9015491 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:56:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:56:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9712@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:56:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2649700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:56:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j56NukDE012286 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:56:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2630624nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.76 with SMTP id t76mr875173nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:56:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=J+1UVffqCO1C9Ar83S0mQtQkwM2cc/E1bctfNGY/YA99ffMTmrE2egnSHr0anR6rG1tRda0C3jne1h+dPHqGumVPfgHXli3aCi0yJan71aXXwmb8BYG2TOQng8LL79dOVNcTs7NLgrt0qS4RQN8Lvrgz4vdKFiS1TW7n8kH/EiI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:56:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: DSL advice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j56NukDE012287 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm confused about what to do. I arranged for DSL, but it never occurred to me--there's no phone where the computer is. I have two phone jacks, one in the master bedroom, one in the kitchen. It's maybe 30 feet from the phone jack to my computer. Can I join cables together the way I can join phone lines? And before you ask, nothing can be moved. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 19:41:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j570eov9021450 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:40:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:41:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9838@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:31:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2652024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:31:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j570V3qJ016280 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:31:03 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2645876nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.56 with SMTP id w56mr920696nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:31:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kE2sKEbtSffLWqHTpoX+3lFn2mh4KErLUhZQ7aIwVFq7k34W3LMtwqc2nZbQgP+oMMPw6QWTOV9zK5okDr2eovS6TRFRORLnBVAyP5xu2c3kaBBTe4F3j9q8Cc2O307RenqrTgyZpD9GLZmmfTPPGLoz5eLW3OPquZtiLdnVFlg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050606173110903029@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:31:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL advice In-Reply-To: <42A4E85D.8080404@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> <42A4E85D.8080404@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j570V5qJ016281 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think ultimately I'm going to go with WiFi, but for now, I'm going to string ethernet cable. Jeeze. On 6/6/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen writes, > > > I'm confused about what to do. I arranged for DSL, but it never > > occurred to me--there's no phone where the computer is. > > I dunno about extending the phone line, but you should be fine leaving > the modem by the phone and running Ethernet cable that far. > > You could also get a WiFi firewall/router to put next to the modem, and > a WiFi card for your computer. You should be able to find something > cheap at Fry's. Try for 802.11g, but 802.11b would probably be okay. > > Pete > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 19:41:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j570eov9021449 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:40:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:41:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA986B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:28:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2651948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:28:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j570SEeT015982 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:28:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2644596nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.17 with SMTP id l17mr892533nzc; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:28:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Gw69Qh9HLIsf9JK5o3lk+UrlsYmeAdo3Dh75IURd4kOBQLBypNorK0Hi6DZeUpFTmAB8Eqan+rFRymEniF8Zd7zS+qfGfvB2GxI113w5E9VJT/Eif9kMrjVgwpjrLUo87ytAlAc2iTbhyUeV2eEJLjqpJzrY0+z7pLzDPt162gc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506061728400fb467@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:28:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL advice In-Reply-To: <42A4E85D.8080404@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> <42A4E85D.8080404@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j570SFeT015983 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, Pete, you are a gem! On 6/6/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen writes, > > > I'm confused about what to do. I arranged for DSL, but it never > > occurred to me--there's no phone where the computer is. > > I dunno about extending the phone line, but you should be fine leaving > the modem by the phone and running Ethernet cable that far. > > You could also get a WiFi firewall/router to put next to the modem, and > a WiFi card for your computer. You should be able to find something > cheap at Fry's. Try for 802.11g, but 802.11b would probably be okay. > > Pete > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 19:41:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j570eov9021448 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:40:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:41:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA97EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:20:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2651398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:20:49 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j570KmxK015129 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:20:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050607002047014003sk54e>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 00:20:47 +0000 Message-ID: <42A4E85D.8080404@istori.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:20:45 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL advice References: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen writes, > I'm confused about what to do. I arranged for DSL, but it never > occurred to me--there's no phone where the computer is. I dunno about extending the phone line, but you should be fine leaving the modem by the phone and running Ethernet cable that far. You could also get a WiFi firewall/router to put next to the modem, and a WiFi card for your computer. You should be able to find something cheap at Fry's. Try for 802.11g, but 802.11b would probably be okay. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 19:51:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j570orv9022853 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:50:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:50:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA989F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:50:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2652763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:50:47 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j570ol2u018084 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:50:47 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7952B545 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Pierre-Boulez: Comfort is the worst enemy of art To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: DSL advice Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:56 PM -0000 6/6/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I'm confused about what to do. I arranged for DSL, but it never >occurred to me--there's no phone where the computer is. I have two >phone jacks, one in the master bedroom, one in the kitchen. It's maybe >30 feet from the phone jack to my computer. Can I join cables together >the way I can join phone lines? I assume you mean CAT-5 network cables? If you have a few short ones, and want to join them together, you can -- you just need one data coupler for each connection. (Data couplers look just like phone couplers, but the former have 8-pin connectors.) Unless you're trying to cover a 30 foot distance with 3-foot cords, there shouldn't be any problem with connectivity. But why not just buy a longer cable? A 50-foot CAT-5 patch cable costs maybe $20, which is not free but is pretty cheap compared to, say, wireless. :) I have this setup in my apartment -- the DSL modem sits next to the phone and connects to my computer over a 50-foot patch cable. (Well, actually, there are ethernet switches at each end, but there's no need to complicate the picture.) The patch cord (which is a tasteful near-white, matching my baseboards) runs around the perimeter of my living room so as to avoid that charming cables-across-the-floor often favored by geekly designers. Ken Miller Systems Annalist Babbage Engine Works From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 20:14:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j571EGv9025992 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:14:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:14:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA993A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:11:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2653558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:12:00 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j571BxTS019677 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:11:59 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 109843366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:11:57 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050606181219.02875020@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:12:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Gene In-Reply-To: <000e01c56ab7$5c4e4540$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <001301c56ab1$603663a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705060609042061ecf6@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56ab7$5c4e4540$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > - D. M. Sending good wishes, Doris! Hope all goes well. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 20:14:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j571EGv9025988 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:14:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:14:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA9930@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:04:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2653308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:04:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5714F0O018954 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:04:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2660933nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.56 with SMTP id w56mr936164nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:04:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kqG2OVCHpmg1vWTOYzYNea+EK1ItGekgo3n3pi+IDOaxxiIaV3icNoxtHtBuurA3ZV1K2qVdDok9iheYLDop5/kohc4dQ5y9r01Plqrl0uB7Gycn0+bSl4s2ey++IxcJExhOMwNJXQ6WaEdyzyTJjHerTOFMUT0SJ7NyhnNPVSY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506061804376ae805@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:04:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: For Espen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5714F0O018955 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have you seen this? Supposed to be Norwegian soldiers in Kosovo. http://www.big-boys.com/articles/kosovo.html Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 20:14:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j571EGv9025994 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:14:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:14:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA9944@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:08:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2653476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:08:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5718CSU019318 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:08:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2662612nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.4 with SMTP id a4mr904900nzd; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:08:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PifEhC7Zgj5hbZoXChW+gfG5AmYQCr7PoX0e5A2C+NZhast/fbh9WlRPI6x01661y/C33FvZkR1tghUnxHRguqb7f6+QX6+CRRbF/Hjucwv3aZqohlS9u+olx6QSnBW8cjdIkmx7mSDtlYPVEVx7NvPIx7gds0jHqXPT4kSNZZo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060618083ce10b1c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:08:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL advice In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5718CSU019319 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Bookrat wrote: > I assume you mean CAT-5 network cables? If you have a few short ones, and > want to join them together, you can -- you just need one data coupler for > each connection. (Data couplers look just like phone couplers, but the > former have 8-pin connectors.) Unless you're trying to cover a 30 foot > distance with 3-foot cords, there shouldn't be any problem with > connectivity. I think I have a few 10 ft cords. > But why not just buy a longer cable? A 50-foot CAT-5 patch cable costs > maybe $20, which is not free but is pretty cheap compared to, say, > wireless. :) Because the cable has to go through the hall that leads to my office, guest bath, and spare bedroom, and it has to cross the hall diagonally, making it a prime tripping target. I'm going to investigate the cost of wireless vs a new phone jack. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 20:14:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j571EGv9025993 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:14:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:14:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA98FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:11:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2653541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:11:12 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j571BBPt019587; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:11:11 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 109843259; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:11:08 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050606181115.0278a680@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:12:07 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Wish In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:25 AM 6/6/2005, because I can wrote: > > Not me. I do NOT forge addresses, headers, etc, etc. > >Whoa. > >Wait a minute. > >Some of you people think I am forging e-mail addresses? > >What???????????? > >WTF? I still use pine, fer krissakes. > >-- >Richard, yeah, the real one Never thought it for a minute. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 20:22:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j571Miv9026980 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:22:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:22:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA9979@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:22:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2653907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:22:44 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j571MiYE020432 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:22:44 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.2]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607012244.IQCG29934.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:22:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.2]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607012243.IQAY25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:22:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42A4F6DA.2000205@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:22:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> <42A4C4E7.7010206@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705060614511b1ac52d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060614511b1ac52d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >We've had a hella lot of deaths, haven't we? > > What's kind of creepy is that it seems not all that long ago that we were talking about how we would know if a Wordsler died and how strange it would feel. Speaking of dying, I certainly am not planning on it right away, but if I should die while the Brad project is still pending, please let somebody know (I don't know who since I don't know who would be in my house after I died) what to do with the manilla envelope that is hanging on my bulletin board in this room, the computer room, with "Memorials for Brad" scribbled on it. I thought about that when clo suggested that I wait until after Finger Fest so I could pick up checks there -- thought about how that's many miles of driving, during which I might die. So if I die coming home from Finger Fest, y'all should have somebody check my person for Brad checks in addition to dealing with the envelope on my bulletin board. Who all at Finger Fest is planning on giving me checks, btw? I must admit that I found that idea kind of since it would seem simpler to me just to mail somebody a check instead of remembering to write it and hand it to somebody at an . But then I'm mutant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 20:34:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j571Y9v9028050 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:34:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:34:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9947@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:34:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2654143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:34:08 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j571Y83r021189; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:34:08 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 109846555; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:34:05 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050606183317.0272a410@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:35:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <42A4F6DA.2000205@maynor.net> References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> <42A4C4E7.7010206@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705060614511b1ac52d@mail.gmail.com> <42A4F6DA.2000205@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:22 PM 6/6/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: envelope on my bulletin board. Who all at Finger Fest is planning on >giving me checks, btw? I must admit that I found that idea kind of > since it would seem simpler to me just to mail somebody a check >instead of remembering to write it and hand it to somebody at an >. But then I'm mutant. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I thought it was odd, too. I'd rather mail it to you than try to remember to give it to you at the Fest. Maybe I am mutant, too. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 20:36:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j571aov9028352 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:36:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:36:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA99AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:36:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2654293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:36:50 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j571am1T021487 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:36:49 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j571aldr029279 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:36:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:36:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <42A4F6DA.2000205@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705060308101e0ccc5c@mail.gmail.com> <44dce1c10506060519534d8aa1@mail.gmail.com> <42A4C4E7.7010206@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705060614511b1ac52d@mail.gmail.com> <42A4F6DA.2000205@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > What's kind of creepy is that it seems not all that long ago that we > were talking about how we would know if a Wordsler died and how strange > it would feel. I remember that discussion, too. > I should die while the Brad project is still pending, please let > somebody know (I don't know who since I don't know who would be in my > house after I died) what to do with the manilla envelope that is hanging > on my bulletin board in this room, the computer room, with "Memorials > for Brad" scribbled on it. We're just now recovering from a more-than-day-long power outage (due to a storm on Sunday) which made it difficult to do anything at home, and shut down Sarah's school. So I haven't sent the check yet. But I will. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 20:38:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j571cKv9028575 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:38:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:38:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9961@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:38:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2654341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:38:20 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j571cK4L021620 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:38:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005060701381901400dtg08e>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:38:19 +0000 Message-ID: <42A4FA8A.1020401@istori.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:38:18 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL advice References: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060618083ce10b1c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060618083ce10b1c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen writes, > Because the cable has to go through the hall that leads to my office, > guest bath, and spare bedroom, and it has to cross the hall > diagonally, making it a prime tripping target. In cases like that, I've run the cable up the corner of a wall and thence along the edge of the ceiling. > I'm going to investigate the cost of wireless vs a new phone jack. Outpost.com (and therefore, Fry's, approximately) sells an Airlink "G" router for $20. PCI card is $18, USB adapter is $15. Airlink is an off-brand, and I haven't tried it yet, but I would try a set from Fry's given their return policy. http://shop3.outpost.com/search?query_string=airlink+wireless-g Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 20:51:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j571pdv9030450 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:51:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:51:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA99CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:51:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2654803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:51:38 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j571pblG022984 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:51:37 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.2]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607015137.JEBB10884.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:51:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.2]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607015137.XQFW11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:51:37 -0400 Message-ID: <42A4FDA4.6080403@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:51:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: I Think I'm Going Crazy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been getting more and more into this grave stuff, though I have continued to find some things about Find-a-Grave pretty insane, like strangers leaving virtual flowers. But on a whim I JUST LEFT SOME FLOWERS. They weren't for a stranger, though -- they were for a nice little bald-headed man whose ears stuck out who translated letters from Finland for my family. A professor friend at Millsaps gave his name to my mother as somebody who knew Finnish. He taught at Tougaloo, a black college just north of Jackson. Anyway, I just left him flowers and a thank-you note: http://tinyurl.com/9y3z5 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 20:59:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j571xiv9031575 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:59:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:59:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA99B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:59:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2655060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:59:44 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j571xhW8023521 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:59:43 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4212B9C8 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <42A0CA97.3080407@maynor.net> References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Pierre-Boulez: Comfort is the worst enemy of art Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:59:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Brad Grissom Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 2:24 PM -0700 6/3/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"addressee unknown." And remember poor Whatshername -- the person who >had a stroke too young and was in a nursing home for some length of >time. I think maybe I also figured she had died when something I mailed >was returned, though I can't remember that for sure. And why am I >blanking on her name? Julie?? Something like that. Julie Creech. A friend of Alyce, IIRC. Ken Miller Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 21:08:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57284v9000223 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:08:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:08:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA9A1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:08:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2655291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:08:03 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57283hV024143 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:08:03 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB8F2B8F9 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1726310463.20050604165057@gailndan.com> References: <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Pierre-Boulez: Comfort is the worst enemy of art Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:07:43 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Greetings! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 3:50 PM -0700 6/4/05, Dan Lester wrote: >5/29/2005, 2:12 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >>> > So many folks these days fail to realize that >>> freedom isn't free >>> >>> 'true > >AFoA> Name three. > >I could name at least ten that I work with. They'd abolish the >military and let things fall as they may. Apparently you are assuming that the lack of a military would lead to the loss of freedom. I think the citizens of Costa Rica would disagree with you on that. Ken Miller Clauswitz School of Politics From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 21:20:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j572Kmv9001613 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:20:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:20:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9A19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:20:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2655851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:20:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j572Kl8r025222 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:20:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2696012nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.66 with SMTP id t66mr968209nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:20:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DATCMXOvxinyzunkwtn6UrJEro4y03kkqK1UechlPAv0u0SoyPUqe3WjQKAWyk00QCLDlY4OTEbPLL4oEBgjjMzbBjKxEoMIDT/sPZwYFfAoD1P5wORofMJv9JBwtqCtOW3Ne97SEt2bJmy0zR17T8rUt1dvNTsdpEzpiPsyEhM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050606192068ed625b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:20:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gene In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050606181219.02875020@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <001301c56ab1$603663a0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705060609042061ecf6@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c56ab7$5c4e4540$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <6.0.1.1.2.20050606181219.02875020@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j572Kl8r025223 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Sending good wishes, Doris! Hope all goes well. Me, too! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 21:23:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j572NLv9001912 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:23:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:23:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9A29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:23:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2655974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:23:21 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j572NKHu025382 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:23:21 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21870158 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:44:52 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:23:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:23:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <314930843.20050606202337@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL advice In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 220, in=78006, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why not just have another jack installed where you want it? 6/6/2005, 5:56 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I'm confused about what to do. I arranged for DSL, but it never AFoA> occurred to me--there's no phone where the computer is. I have two AFoA> phone jacks, one in the master bedroom, one in the kitchen. It's maybe AFoA> 30 feet from the phone jack to my computer. Can I join cables together AFoA> the way I can join phone lines? AFoA> And before you ask, nothing can be moved. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 21:23:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j572Nbv9001928 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:23:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:23:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA9A7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:23:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2655995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:23:37 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j572NaMD025416 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:23:36 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.2]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607022336.WPFP13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:23:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.2]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607022336.IQTN25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:23:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42A50523.7070307@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:23:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cemeteries Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There are things I don't understand about graves. E.g., this picture I took in Vicksburg says that he died in 1862, yet the sign at the cemetery entrance says that the first burial in this cemetery was in something like 1865. This cemetery is right beside the military park and has historical markers all over it for battles fought on its ground. So maybe this man died right on that spot and was buried and the cemetery later took him in? Or is the marker maybe not a grave at all, just a memorial? http://tinyurl.com/b26wh The person who first submitted this cemetery to Find-a-Grave screwed up and misspelled it. When I did a search for Warren County, MS, cemeteries the misspelled one popped up, so I added all my pictures to it, even though I noticed it was misspelled. I later realized that the correct spelling was farther down on the Warren County cemetery list. But after spending hours uploading entries to the misspelled one, I'm kind of stuck. The thought of moving all those entries is overwhelming. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 21:26:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j572Q3v9002308 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:26:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:26:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA9A9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:26:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2656248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:26:02 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j572Q2nj025669 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:26:02 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.2]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607022602.WQLR13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:26:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.2]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607022602.IRIO25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:26:02 -0400 Message-ID: <42A505B5.8020902@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:25:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom References: <200505270014.j4R0E48x031134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <83db447a050526193535c920b5@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c5626a$88df05e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a705052710391ed9fd8d@mail.gmail.com> <446874058.20050602224111@gailndan.com> <20050603073652.GA989@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >>blanking on her name? Julie?? Something like that. >> >> >Julie Creech. A friend of Alyce, IIRC. > > Yes! You are good! I think she was also a friend of Maggie in England. In fact, I'm thinking Maggie might have been the one who updated us on Julie's condition, though I'm not sure. I wrote Julie occasional letters after she was in the nursing home because somebody said that might be helpful. But at some point one I wrote came back with "addressee unknown." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 21:29:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j572Spv9002721 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:28:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:28:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066E787@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:28:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2656339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:28:45 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j572Rhr6025781 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:27:43 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21870598 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:49:15 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:28:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:27:59 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <656803704.20050606202759@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Greetings! In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 220, in=78007, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 8:07 PM, Bookrat wrote: >>I could name at least ten that I work with. They'd abolish the >>military and let things fall as they may. B> Apparently you are assuming that the lack of a military would lead to the B> loss of freedom. B> I think the citizens of Costa Rica would disagree with you on that. I said "let them fall as they may". They may think closer to you and the Costa Ricans, and I lean a bit the other way. I just think there are too many of different faiths and beliefs that would gladly trash us and our country and our beliefs if we let them. Gee, didn't Tojo and Hitler even think of things like that? And innumerable others in various parts of the world over the centuries? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 21:29:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j572T0v9002743 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:29:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:29:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9A69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:28:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2656415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:28:59 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j572Sx3Z025891 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:28:59 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22135959 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:29:18 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:29:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:29:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <567509735.20050606202915@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries In-Reply-To: <42A50523.7070307@maynor.net> References: <42A50523.7070307@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 218, in=77032, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 8:23 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> So maybe this man died right on that spot and was buried and NM> the cemetery later took him in? Or is the marker maybe not a grave at NM> all, just a memorial? It isn't all that uncommon for folks to be interred in one location and later moved to another for reinterrment. That's at least one more option. Also imagine the option that some of the dates from a century and a half ago are a bit off. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 21:30:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j572Twv9002818 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:29:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:30:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9A6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:29:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2656453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:29:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j572TvVY025993 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:29:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2700471nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr77059nzd; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:29:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AAlpb+e5bJqVbGvOna9L2K1dfFcAjsu6EAdiBrS2JhC/mqx0UPV4ZepyYRkqcatmJdxk7dPLEyZa5ElWXpaweWqonL1FUHiTav6wLmp0C2bOk2eq1/nmzRcv9Gv+OIaVNzMZE8Ou1IJT+ZYAhjECbbnyJZLCSkI5gI5kTzZlVok= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060619295996e883@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:29:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL advice In-Reply-To: <314930843.20050606202337@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> <314930843.20050606202337@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j572TvVY025995 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Why not just have another jack installed where you want it? Because I have already had the equipment for a week and I need to do something NOW. That's a long-term solution. Karen > 6/6/2005, 5:56 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> I'm confused about what to do. I arranged for DSL, but it never > AFoA> occurred to me--there's no phone where the computer is. I have two > AFoA> phone jacks, one in the master bedroom, one in the kitchen. It's maybe > AFoA> 30 feet from the phone jack to my computer. Can I join cables together > AFoA> the way I can join phone lines? > > AFoA> And before you ask, nothing can be moved. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 21:55:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j572tiv9006147 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:55:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:55:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9AEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:52:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2657393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:52:15 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j572qEuj027806 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:52:14 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B057D2B9BD for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Pierre-Boulez: Comfort is the worst enemy of art Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:51:56 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Meetings Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 2:53 PM -0000 6/6/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has >designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time >when meetings can't be scheduled. > >Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! Usually, on a Friday afternoon, I'm thinking about getting home and opening a cold one. But let's face it, Friday afternoons are a rotten time to schedule meetings anyway: of those who show up, only the hardcore will be focussed on the business at hand, and most of the attendees will flaunt either their willing martyrdom, or their resentment. Tangentially: the Associate Dean recently asked me (as part of a longer interview) if my department held regular meetings as a department. My response was a blunt "No, and I hope we don't." I told her that nothing important ever gets brought up at a department meeting, and that nobody ever learns anything at a department meeting that they shouldn't have already been told about. (I didn't tell her that one of my co-bosses cannot run a meeting to save his life, and the other co-boss appears to be about as enthusiatic about meetings as I am.) Ken Miller Dogbert School of Management From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 21:55:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j572tiv9006146 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:55:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:55:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA9AD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:35:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2656747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:35:43 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j572ZgQG026475 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:35:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D51F2B903 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1014829981.20050604205312@gailndan.com> References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Pierre-Boulez: Comfort is the worst enemy of art Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:35:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:53 PM -0700 6/4/05, Dan Lester wrote: >Most would consider crossed sevens to be a "continental" thing. I'm >used to crossed zeroes myself, and am ambivalent on sevens, though >often do so, though not always. American 7-crossers I've met generally either grew up as overseas brats or they spent a lot of time in Europe in their late teens or early 20s. I do know of one American 7-crosser who grew up in D.C. in diplomatic circles, where he was presumably exposed to continental penmanship praxis. Tempting Tushar to call me a Fowler monkey for the nth time, I quote Kingsley Amis's view on crossed sevens, from _The King's English_: "To cross one's 7s is perhaps defensible on the Continent, where traditionally people handwrote the numeral 1 with a long upstroke before the downstroke....In English-speaking and other countries...it is unnecessary and distracting and may be confusing to cross a 7. In less polite language, to do so is either gross affectation or straightforward ignorance. It should not be tolerated in any person over the age of twelve." Ken Miller Partridge School of Gentle Arts From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 22:08:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5738Vv9007727 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:08:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:08:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA9D8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:08:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2662102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:08:31 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5738Ubx030417 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:08:31 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-74.gwi.net [216.195.164.74]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5738Qjo036351; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:08:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050606230042.01bd82c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:08:24 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo In-Reply-To: References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:35 PM 6/6/2005, Bookrat wrote: >Tempting Tushar to call me a Fowler monkey for the nth time, I quote >Kingsley Amis's view on crossed sevens, from _The King's English_: > >"To cross one's 7s is perhaps defensible on the Continent, where >traditionally people handwrote the numeral 1 with a long upstroke before >the downstroke....In English-speaking and other countries...it is >unnecessary and distracting and may be confusing to cross a 7. In less >polite language, to do so is either gross affectation or straightforward >ignorance. It should not be tolerated in any person over the age of >twelve." In graduate school, I crossed my 7s because taking data in the field, often under adverse conditions, made it important to be able later to distinguish 1s and 7s. Similarly, when I was learning to program in Fortran (yes, kiddies, there was such a thing), it was important to distinguish between 0s and Os. Having no need now, I no longer do either. Generally speaking, I agree with Amis. I also believe that people who use "data" in the singular are equally ignorant and should not be tolerated. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 22:11:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j573Bdv9008146 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:11:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:11:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FA9D82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:11:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2662152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:11:39 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j573BYqK030615 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:11:34 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9D46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:11:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200506070311.j573BYqK030615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:11:33 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:35:26 -0700, Bookrat wrote: >At 7:53 PM -0700 6/4/05, Dan Lester wrote: >>Most would consider crossed sevens to be a "continental" thing. I'm >>used to crossed zeroes myself, and am ambivalent on sevens, though >>often do so, though not always. > >American 7-crossers I've met generally either grew up as overseas brats or >they spent a lot of time in Europe in their late teens or early 20s. I do >know of one American 7-crosser who grew up in D.C. in diplomatic circles, >where he was presumably exposed to continental penmanship praxis. > >Tempting Tushar to call me a Fowler monkey for the nth time, I quote >Kingsley Amis's view on crossed sevens, from _The King's English_: > >"To cross one's 7s is perhaps defensible on the Continent, where >traditionally people handwrote the numeral 1 with a long upstroke before >the downstroke....In English-speaking and other countries...it is >unnecessary and distracting and may be confusing to cross a 7. In less >polite language, to do so is either gross affectation or straightforward >ignorance. It should not be tolerated in any person over the age of >twelve." > >Ken Miller >Partridge School of Gentle Arts I learned to cross 7s in high school; but I've maintained the custom, more or less, because in my handwriting, 7s and 1s can often be confused. Far from being an overseas brat, I grew up in the US entirely. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 22:15:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j573Fiv9008697 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:15:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:15:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066E9FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:05:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2661898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:05:13 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5735B0H030041 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:05:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B912B9CC for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <42A4FA8A.1020401@istori.com> References: <8ddfc8a705060618083ce10b1c@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060618083ce10b1c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:04:54 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: DSL advice Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 6:38 PM -0700 6/6/2005, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Karen writes, > >> Because the cable has to go through the hall that leads to my office, >> guest bath, and spare bedroom, and it has to cross the hall >> diagonally, making it a prime tripping target. > >In cases like that, I've run the cable up the corner of a wall and >thence along the edge of the ceiling. And I've run cable under the house (through the crawlspace) into external jacks installed on the baseboard. Though I have to admit that the holes I drilled to get the cable through did not look as professional as they might have. But I don't think Karen is that hardcore of a do-it-yourselfer. :) Ken Miller Ozymandias School of Design From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 22:28:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j573Snv9010127 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:28:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:28:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9D69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:28:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2662463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:28:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j573Sk6G032333 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:28:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2729551nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.56 with SMTP id w56mr1003286nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:28:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DOA8wnCJQjGJblWTAXo9nbdoQVwo71wQCyGpVICOgdz/tBoFpKyHGYQjZneovn4KY2QCq2kekSGYHhn3elqeoCgSEq+83x+w72q2mJ0r3eckgZa76/DO5rBtAN1fO5QWFkzWL87x96fu4Jpgz5hkh8a5fvNUin5/2cA5fimmyug= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060620287770fe41@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:28:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL advice In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060618083ce10b1c@mail.gmail.com> <42A4FA8A.1020401@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j573Sm6G032335 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Bookrat wrote: > And I've run cable under the house (through the crawlspace) into external > jacks installed on the baseboard. Though I have to admit that the holes I > drilled to get the cable through did not look as professional as they might > have. > > But I don't think Karen is that hardcore of a do-it-yourselfer. :) I have a drill and I know how to use it, but I don't have a pier and beam foundation. The problem with running the cord up above is getting the doors to close. But again, that's in the long term... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 22:35:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j573Z8v9010720 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:35:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:35:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA9E00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:35:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2663054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:35:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j573Z7Yv000648 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:35:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2732667nzo for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.21 with SMTP id w21mr1000255nzg; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:35:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hYPXejjt/tIKQRu69Qk3vf9VSJpVIIdXL1c+WcDr/OF4wB2IGvp1SN1IXC5cHxR3a3D9SpiWr0gUGGRkkAfPRcl4tr/xmLeQvxybUB7OinyB5d2ae7QGEr6GnVZDHardni7ed1ecMYDUDUewz0gOY6rvlnhmh/zaueyyORmLkgY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060620353d5b0a29@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:35:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Nanook is on the case! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j573Z8Yv000651 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This has been a bad year for tree roaches. A friend of mine said that she's had about one a week, which is A LOT! These are the 3" long ones that fly. I've had one every 2-3 weeks. (Instead of one every 2-3 months.) Nanook, however, LOVES to hunt them, and he never tires of the game till that thing is dead dead dead. He is absolutely relentless. I really love watching him hunt; he's quite sneaky, as well. He's on the trail of one now. At least I won't have to worry about him waking me up early; he's been outside running around all day, came in to eat, and then went back outside to play. (That means chase fireflies.) He can't figure out why I won't chase them. Interspecies parenting is so amusing! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 22:37:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j573bJv9010918 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:37:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:37:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FA9E0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:37:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2663146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:37:18 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j573bIkB000854 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:37:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A352B92C for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000701c56900$91b51f50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <200506041219.j54CJcQS030402@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:37:03 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Life in the Bible Belt Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 5:26 AM -0700 6/4/05, Doris Markland wrote: >I am in the middle of a 3-day garage sale. Yesterday a lady >came and bought 3 bibles from me, each a different version. >She and her husband then stood and talked . . said they >collect bibles . . said you know there will come a day when >you can't get your hands on a bible . . said even now the >bible is being changed so that it doesn't say what it used to . . >said it's all non-gender now to please the homosexuals . . >and you can't even call god a "he" . . . etc. etc. You know, it's a shame that these people don't actually READ the bibles that they collect. Next time you have the opportunity, ask one of these Christians what they think about, say, Leviticus 11 and Leviticus 12, or whether or not their congregations obey Leviticus 12:16-23. (In whatever version they choose.) But don't try asking them to quote a single Bible verse that bans female homosexuality. They might get apoplexy from that effort. Ken Miller Twain Institute for the Study of Epistles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 6 23:26:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j574Qov9017145 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:26:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:26:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FA9F0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 0:26:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2666191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 00:26:30 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j574BNc3004315 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 00:11:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C7B2BA08 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:11:03 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Wish Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 4:25 PM -0000 6/6/2005, because I can wrote: >> Not me. I do NOT forge addresses, headers, etc, etc. > >Whoa. > >Wait a minute. > >Some of you people think I am forging e-mail addresses? > >What???????????? > >WTF? I still use pine, fer krissakes. "Some of you" is, so far, just one person that I know of, i.e., Paul; not that he thought that *you* are forging addresses, but he obviously didn't see the address on the email he responded to and apparently assumed that someone new and yet suspiciously familiar was posting to the list. I do my carbon-based spam filtering in pine, where I only see the human name and subject header and not the actual email address. So I've come close to deleting you after a name change -- heck, maybe I have, once or twice -- but if there's any doubt I usually go into the message and look at the email address before deleting, unless it's one of those I've-been-joe-jobbed days where I have to delete two or three hundred messages. (Yeah, yeah, I need to move to some sort of heuristics-based spam filter. I've been planning on doing so Real Soon Now for the last year.) I should point out that in my ancient version of Eudora (Mac version 3.13, if you can believe it), the human name and subject header, but NOT the email address, are in bold at the top of each email. If I weren't a header geek, I might not ever notice the addy. Ken Miller Technoannalist Huskisson Centre for Neoludditic Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 00:38:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j575cHv9025437 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 00:38:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:38:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066EB1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 1:38:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2669364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:38:16 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j575c0e2011605 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:38:10 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j575bYdv004376 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:37:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:37:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries In-Reply-To: <42A50523.7070307@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42A50523.7070307@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > There are things I don't understand about graves. E.g., this picture I > took in Vicksburg says that he died in 1862, yet the sign at the > cemetery entrance says that the first burial in this cemetery was in > something like 1865. In many places, perhaps most places, the cemeteries that exist now are not the original cemeteries. When the "new" cemetery was opened, very often the "old" cemetery was emptied into it. If the relatives were still around and paying attention, that meant neatly digging up the grave and transporting the contents and monument to a new grave in the new cemetery. Others would be moved to unmarked graves, or even just left in place to be covered (or uncovered) by new development. Reburial was common during the Civil War. During the aftermath of the battle of Gettysburg, for example, all the bodies were buried. Later, they were dug up and moved to neat rows in a new cemetery. I think they were not quite done with the reburying when the President came and said a few words at the cemetery's dedication. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 03:15:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j578Eqv9010892 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 03:14:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:15:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAA2A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 4:14:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2673206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 04:14:52 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j578EpGm026819 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 04:14:51 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060710131009025 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:13:10 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:13:12 +0200 Message-ID: <42A5577A.9090907@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:14:50 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2005 08:13:12.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF952390:01C56B38] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 06.06.2005 16:53: >My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has >designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time >when meetings can't be scheduled. > >Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! > > Isn't that when people have a beer together? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 03:33:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j578XPv9012740 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 03:33:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:33:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAA2C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 4:23:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2673415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 04:23:25 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j578NNhc027873 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 04:23:24 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060710214309051 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:21:43 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:21:44 +0200 Message-ID: <42A5597B.7050609@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:23:23 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Espen References: <8ddfc8a70506061804376ae805@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506061804376ae805@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2005 08:21:44.0856 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0E1B980:01C56B39] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 07.06.2005 03:04: >Have you seen this? Supposed to be Norwegian soldiers in Kosovo. > >http://www.big-boys.com/articles/kosovo.html > >Karen > > > There are Norwegian soldiers in Kosovo, and they have made some embarassing movies when they have been out hunting feral dogs. But this was fun. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 05:08:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57A80v9027850 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 05:08:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 05:08:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0066EE6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 6:08:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2675638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:08:00 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57A7xxZ004997 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:07:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:07:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:07:24 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: snout gloves Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4613709.stm BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 06:22:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57BMSv9004358 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:22:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:22:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAA4D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 7:22:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2677389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:22:28 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57BMRwu004295 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:22:28 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.246]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607112227.USCL13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:22:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.246]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607112227.ONZE11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:22:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42A5836E.9070502@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:22:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries References: <42A50523.7070307@maynor.net> <567509735.20050606202915@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <567509735.20050606202915@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > Also imagine the option that some of the dates from a century >and a half ago are a bit off. > > Oh yes -- tombstone dates for sure can't be trusted, especially birth dates since the person who provides the info to the tombstone-maker may be just guessing. But my guess was that this man's was a Civil War death. ... I just googled for the name Draifouse (which strikes me as quite likely Dreyfus as written by somebody semi-literate) and found this: ************ Draifouse, R., Pvt. Co. G. 27th La. Infty. En. March 20th, 1862, New Orleans, La. Present on Rolls to June, 1862. Roll for July 1st to Oct. 31st, 1862, Died Aug. 25th at Vicksburg of typhoid fever. ************ from: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/state/military/wbts/booths-index/di-dz.txt It's amazing how interesting the lives of dead strangers can become. Cemeteries are fun. Meanwhile, do flash cards dislike heat? I've started keeping a couple of spare ones in an envelope in my car, which means they can get very hot. Does that matter? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 06:26:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57BQev9004781 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:26:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:26:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066EFF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 7:26:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2677598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:26:40 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57BQeD2004643 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:26:40 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.246]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607112640.UVHE13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:26:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.246]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607112639.OOST11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:26:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42A5846B.5050207@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:26:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >"... In less >polite language, to do so is either gross affectation or straightforward >ignorance. It should not be tolerated in any person over the age of >twelve." > > Oh dear. Since I am not ignorant of sevenly habits, my crossing must be gross affectation. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 06:40:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Be9v9006135 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:40:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:40:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAA519@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 7:30:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2677931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:30:08 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57BU8R5005187 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:30:08 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.246]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607113008.UXKZ13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:30:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.246]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607113007.OPFS11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:30:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42A5853B.4030705@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:30:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050606230042.01bd82c0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050606230042.01bd82c0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > I also believe that people who use > "data" in the singular are equally ignorant and should not be tolerated. But -a is not a plural marker in English. Why not anglicize? (That being said, I will admit to sticking to the way, at least in writing. But I believe it's changing -- that in another hundred or so years "data" as singular will be standard. Ditto "media," which for some reason grates on me in a way singular "data" does not.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 06:40:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Be9v9006137 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:40:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:40:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAA521@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 7:31:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2678000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:31:39 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57BVQo0005389 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:31:26 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.246]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607113126.UYIH13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:31:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.246]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607113125.OPLE11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:31:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42A58589.6050001@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:31:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL advice References: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060618083ce10b1c@mail.gmail.com> <42A4FA8A.1020401@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060620287770fe41@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060620287770fe41@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>But I don't think Karen is that hardcore of a do-it-yourselfer. :) >> >> >I have a drill and I know how to use it, but I don't have a pier and >beam foundation. > > And think of the that might be lurking under the house even if you did have crawl space. Ain't no way I would go under my house at any time of year, even winter when the snakies are sleeping. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 06:41:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Bf1v9006207 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:41:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:41:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAA57A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 7:41:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2678234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:41:01 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57Bf1mj006086 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:41:01 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.246]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607114059.VFRV13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:40:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.246]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607114059.ORCX11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:40:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42A587C6.7090906@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:40:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries References: <42A50523.7070307@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > In many places, perhaps most places, the cemeteries that exist now are > not > the original cemeteries. When the "new" cemetery was opened, very often > the "old" cemetery was emptied into it. If the relatives were still > around and paying attention, that meant neatly digging up the grave and > transporting the contents and monument to a new grave in the new > cemetery. > Others would be moved to unmarked graves, or even just left in place > to be > covered (or uncovered) by new development. Interesting. In some cases, though, old graves were incorporated into new cemeteries. I'm thinking about my dead gg-grandparents whose graves started out as burials on the family land but are now part of a church cemetery. Actually, that's true only of my gg-grandfather and one of their children who died as a teenager. My gg-grandmother lived on for a good many years, dying after that land had already been donated to the church. Here's a picture I took in a break in the rain last week, a picture I rather like -- the rainy gloom gave it an : http://www.maynor.net/Genealogy/pg.html > Reburial was common during the Civil War. During the aftermath of the > battle of Gettysburg, for example, all the bodies were buried. Later, > they were dug up and moved to neat rows in a new cemetery. I think they > were not quite done with the reburying when the President came and said a > few words at the cemetery's dedication. I've given up on ever knowing where my gg-grandfather who died of pneumonia in a Civil War hospital in Atlanta was buried. My mother said that "Auntie," a beloved great-aunt, one of the children of this man, said that he was buried in Chattanooga, but I have no idea whether that's correct -- and don't know why he would have been transported to Chattanooga from Atlanta. The family certainly couldn't have afforded any body-shipping. They were poor as church mice. Where Auntie got her info I'm not sure. She was a small child when he died, and then her mother died a few years later. But I've gotta quit thinking about graves and get organized to leave for Starkville for the day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 06:48:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Bmav9007116 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:48:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:48:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066EE9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 7:48:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2678739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:48:30 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57BmTYc007313 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:48:30 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.246]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607114829.VLQP13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:48:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.246]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050607114829.OSMU11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:48:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42A58988.2030603@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:48:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Accumlating Rain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Somehow this wording strikes me as odd: ******** Intermittent light rain will be possible over portions of southeast Arkansas...northeast Louisiana and central Mississippi. No accumulations were expected. ******** from wunderground It makes sense to me to talk about accumulation or lack thereof of snow. But I've never thought of rain as -- I think of that as . But now I must get off the computer and on with the day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 06:50:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Bnpv9007234 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:49:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:50:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAA5BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 7:49:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2678782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:49:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57BnoJQ007524 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:49:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2968816nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 04:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.21 with SMTP id t21mr1222732nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 04:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 04:49:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bewkK+LzB4wO6Z7tr6QNDtjQiqzK2DtBcU7h3pcj+2J/33fyKQMYTiUdh/FHT+6IYaZ4bgq1c8p/TlECJnDA5QdU68OH47oWKXQ/NXsjykWXJmPqULYAkC43Km9sz5B9l4IaER598atV5Ndu3xispq0k4D/oknILAvO7TDKCyis= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060704496a655ec6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:49:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DSL advice In-Reply-To: <42A58589.6050001@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060616567c44cb41@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060618083ce10b1c@mail.gmail.com> <42A4FA8A.1020401@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060620287770fe41@mail.gmail.com> <42A58589.6050001@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57BnoJQ007525 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>But I don't think Karen is that hardcore of a do-it-yourselfer. :) > >> > >> > >I have a drill and I know how to use it, but I don't have a pier and > >beam foundation. > > > > > And think of the that might be lurking under the house even if > you did have crawl space. Ain't no way I would go under my house at any > time of year, even winter when the snakies are sleeping. I'd send Nanook in first. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 06:53:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57BrNv9007566 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:53:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 06:53:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAA58A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 7:53:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2678862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:53:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57BrNOj007835 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:53:23 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2970762nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 04:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.16 with SMTP id d16mr539260nzc; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 04:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 04:53:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G6tiwPB/tNp8sxIoCJWE4Ydn55UqhnaFu9AWhNR2CbSHq6s8+TFbgBymIitI5MUG3J9oM1C2kswOcEbeLnsOD7phXlr1ohOyJLPi92AMIoNu2HVDxB9YrhWMYwkzxscF0awELW5m6DQp8CWJU5Put2h6P99XZyyxphlv4Vqv8tE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506070453660ef342@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:53:23 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings In-Reply-To: <42A5577A.9090907@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <42A5577A.9090907@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57BrNOj007836 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > A Friend of Andy skrev 06.06.2005 16:53: > > >My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has > >designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time > >when meetings can't be scheduled. > > > >Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! > > > > > Isn't that when people have a beer together? Not at IBM. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 07:08:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57C8Cv9009656 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:08:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:08:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAA5EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 7:58:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2679031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:58:11 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57BwAUR008238 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:58:11 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060713562910608 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:56:29 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:56:25 +0200 Message-ID: <42A58BD0.2000603@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:58:08 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <42A5577A.9090907@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506070453660ef342@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506070453660ef342@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2005 11:56:25.0242 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE30A7A0:01C56B57] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 07.06.2005 13:53: >On 6/7/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > >>A Friend of Andy skrev 06.06.2005 16:53: >> >> >> >>>My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has >>>designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time >>>when meetings can't be scheduled. >>> >>>Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Isn't that when people have a beer together? >> >> > >Not at IBM. > > > You could call it a symposion, but that might get caught by the rule against meetings. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 07:20:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57CKqv9011403 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:20:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:20:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAA670@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 8:20:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2680157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:20:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57CKpEf011126 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:20:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2988444nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 05:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.21 with SMTP id w21mr1240491nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 05:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 05:20:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TFVDcBFhEGL/oHl365nGw3TYXcBo+0+nMwUQPyd3vBKkcljXhTpNuhs/djxNy2JRJJRS5Ckx1ryaZ0cqgw/gJnkTII37S0duXwsEf6Skld9IjkGzFQzZCHEPblwOiBfHcqEXCYcvSmjW5v+hACYO2VgWZICw/d/G6lCRqdUTvdw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607052028599be2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:20:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Meetings In-Reply-To: <42A58BD0.2000603@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <42A5577A.9090907@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506070453660ef342@mail.gmail.com> <42A58BD0.2000603@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57CKpEf011127 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > A Friend of Andy skrev 07.06.2005 13:53: > > >On 6/7/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > > > > >>A Friend of Andy skrev 06.06.2005 16:53: > >> > >> > >> > >>>My... I don't even know what it is. Area of IBM, anyway. Has > >>>designated Friday afternoons as Think Time. They have made it a time > >>>when meetings can't be scheduled. > >>> > >>>Has any one ever done their best thinking on summer Friday afternoons?! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Isn't that when people have a beer together? > >> > >> > > > >Not at IBM. > > > > > > > You could call it a symposion, but that might get caught by the rule > against meetings. Still, no alcohol. For me, it's a firing offense, and I'm not ready to risk it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 07:35:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57CYuv9013392 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:34:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 07:35:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAA68C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 8:34:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2681145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:34:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57CYtLH013425 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:34:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2997117nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 05:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.1 with SMTP id u1mr1255901nzu; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 05:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 05:34:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cZUI1Y8HRpEkWphS+51JtvUIRXo+pNBbT4nkXriRODpNJTSLGAAQZK8QMnzBzkE2w0zy9vY56F2wV21ZE2mZiwb34y+8oqutK0fa/mge6u1ag3l8s7kFsm3SDn5SGHFG5t67j0CP/mfATPtWgrorqzcI8KKc7JJIcMF4L/kmRGU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506070534631ab155@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:34:53 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Go, Pistons! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57CYuLH013427 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just saying.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 08:44:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Dipv9024069 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:44:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 08:44:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066F0B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 9:44:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2685845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:44:51 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57DYo9X024320 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:34:50 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j57DYTlm026378 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:34:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:34:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: from Knoxville Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I got back last night - will be here (probably) until Sunday, then I will be gone a month. Natalie wrote: "But -a is not a plural marker in English. Why not anglicize?" If you do, what is the new plural? Datas? I don't like that. Bethany, 7-crosser (purely for clarity), sometime-0-croser (same reason), data=plural speaker/wroter From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 09:29:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57ETYv9030314 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:29:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:29:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAAB02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:29:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2689953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:29:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57EJWD0002083 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:19:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 12779 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 14:19:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:19:31 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings! Message-ID: <20050607141931.GA11045@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <00a001c56451$2e3f0de0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <20050529200030.GB62966@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70505291312215c8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <656803704.20050606202759@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <656803704.20050606202759@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:27:59PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/6/2005, 8:07 PM, Bookrat wrote: > > >>I could name at least ten that I work with. They'd abolish the > >>military and let things fall as they may. > > B> Apparently you are assuming that the lack of a military would lead to the > B> loss of freedom. > > B> I think the citizens of Costa Rica would disagree with you on that. > > I said "let them fall as they may". They may think closer to you and > the Costa Ricans, and I lean a bit the other way. I just think there > are too many of different faiths and beliefs that would gladly trash > us and our country and our beliefs if we let them. > > Gee, didn't Tojo and Hitler even think of things like that? And > innumerable others in various parts of the world over the centuries? Well said ... I just applied a compression algorithm to the above and I got: "BFD" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 09:31:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57EVBv9030519 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:31:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:31:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066F3DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:31:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2690062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:31:11 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57ELBhS002339 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:21:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 13566 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 14:21:10 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:21:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo Message-ID: <20050607142110.GB11045@words-l.org> References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:35:26PM -0700, Bookrat wrote: > Tempting Tushar to call me a Fowler monkey for the nth time, I quote > Kingsley Amis's view on crossed sevens, from _The King's English_: You have no clue what Fowler monkey means, do you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 09:54:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Es9v9000555 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:54:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:54:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAAB3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:34:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2690622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:34:08 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57EO8Xb003230 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:24:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 14790 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 14:24:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:24:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wish Message-ID: <20050607142407.GC11045@words-l.org> References: <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:11:03PM -0700, Bookrat wrote: > At 4:25 PM -0000 6/6/2005, because I can wrote: > >> Not me. I do NOT forge addresses, headers, etc, etc. > > > >Whoa. > > > >Wait a minute. > > > >Some of you people think I am forging e-mail addresses? > > > >What???????????? > > > >WTF? I still use pine, fer krissakes. > > "Some of you" is, so far, just one person that I know of, i.e., Paul; not > that he thought that *you* are forging addresses, but he obviously didn't > see the address on the email he responded to and apparently assumed that > someone new and yet suspiciously familiar was posting to the list. > > I do my carbon-based spam filtering in pine, where I only see the human > name and subject header and not the actual email address. So I've come > close to deleting you after a name change -- heck, maybe I have, once or > twice -- but if there's any doubt I usually go into the message and look at > the email address before deleting, unless it's one of those > I've-been-joe-jobbed days where I have to delete two or three hundred > messages. > > (Yeah, yeah, I need to move to some sort of heuristics-based spam filter. > I've been planning on doing so Real Soon Now for the last year.) > > I should point out that in my ancient version of Eudora (Mac version 3.13, > if you can believe it), the human name and subject header, but NOT the > email address, are in bold at the top of each email. If I weren't a header > geek, I might not ever notice the addy. > > Ken Miller > Technoannalist > Huskisson Centre for Neoludditic Studies Carbon-based ... heh heh ... too much From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 11:09:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57G8wv9009878 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:08:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:09:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAAE54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:51:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2698534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:51:00 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57FoxX8021490 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:51:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22134195 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 08:58:55 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:51:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:53:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Actual word question In-Reply-To: References: <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 221, in=90959, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made any sense to me. 6/6/2005, 10:11 PM, Bookrat wrote: B> If I weren't a header B> geek, I might not ever notice the addy. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 11:09:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57G8wv9009877 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:08:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:09:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAAE83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:57:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2698840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:57:25 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57FvPOP022688 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:57:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 21927798 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:19:02 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:57:50 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:59:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1762101178.20050607095926@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from Knoxville In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 221, in=78325, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/7/2005, 7:34 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Natalie wrote: "But -a is not a plural marker in English. Why not BKD> anglicize?" BKD> If you do, what is the new plural? Datas? I don't like that. What's wrong with the plural being the same? Works for sheep..... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 11:09:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57G8wv9009872 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:08:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:09:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAAE5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:48:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2698441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:48:58 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57Fmv2V021177 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:48:57 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22133861 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 08:56:52 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:49:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:50:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <116129027.20050607095058@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Life in the Bible Belt In-Reply-To: References: <200506041219.j54CJcQS030402@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 221, in=90957, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/6/2005, 9:37 PM, Bookrat wrote: B> You know, it's a shame that these people don't actually READ the bibles B> that they collect. B> Next time you have the opportunity, ask one of these Christians what they B> think about, say, Leviticus 11 and Leviticus 12, or whether or not their B> congregations obey Leviticus 12:16-23. (In whatever version they choose.) B> But don't try asking them to quote a single Bible verse that bans female B> homosexuality. They might get apoplexy from that effort. Absolutely right. Most "Christians" of that ilk like to cherrypick what they want from the OT and forget most of the NT. I continue to find that amazing, since although the OT is a valuable background and basis for much of the NT, a great deal of it is totally contradicted by the NT. And we all know that anyone can prove almost anything they want by quoting the Bible. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 11:09:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57G8wv9009876 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:08:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:09:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAAE80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:56:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2698813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:56:37 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57FubTt022576 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:56:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22135124 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:04:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:57:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:58:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <79367006.20050607095838@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Meetings In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050607052028599be2@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705060607536068798e@mail.gmail.com> <42A5577A.9090907@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506070453660ef342@mail.gmail.com> <42A58BD0.2000603@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607052028599be2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 221, in=90964, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/7/2005, 6:20 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> You could call it a symposion, but that might get caught by the rule >> against meetings. AFoA> Still, no alcohol. For me, it's a firing offense, and I'm not ready to risk it. Yup. Remember a couple of times a decade and more ago, when I was still drinking, and still dealing with IBM hardware, that a salesman would offer to buy a drink at lunch or dinner. He always required the waiter to put it on a separate tab for which he paid cash, and thus had a nice pure receipt to turn in with his expense report. A number of other friends have reported similar, including fairly recently (we have a number of AIX boxes on campus, but not in library). Imagine that as long as the salespeople are discreet and "nobody knows" it still goes on as an underground, but necessary, part of the sales to some clients. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 11:31:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57GVnv9012653 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:31:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:31:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAAFC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:31:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2701921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:31:49 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57GVmUR028488 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:31:48 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:31:48 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:31:27 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Actual word question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I always assumed it was an ozword. To my ear it sounds typical of what they do to words down under. Could be wrong. BrP >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 6/7/2005 11:53:01 AM >>> Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made any sense to me. 6/6/2005, 10:11 PM, Bookrat wrote: B> If I weren't a header B> geek, I might not ever notice the addy. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 11:46:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Gkkv9014416 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:46:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:46:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB04B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:42:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2702413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:42:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57GgCKZ030136 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:42:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3195949nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.4 with SMTP id a4mr1411526nzd; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:42:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kqVPy6MIdGH1Q7BNf8CmVJktiZZSQBvRdNzJC/SaOHh9U5vvPRpfMUMlbvLnpn8veJU/4bk1nmAHV58giSqu6SUF07NSzwfIdUVIHlE9YC4i1Y0UZjSMqsvfVwRYMvACgKtLQVZkX1TScwKwpQJzoep2FF+Ce9vpK++qdESkmuo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607094272ad59e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:42:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050607093647ce2a84@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607093647ce2a84@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57GgCKZ030138 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU WIKIPEDIA IS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! On 6/7/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I agree to the extent that I think it sounds like a Britishism, but I > think it's mostly a cute-ism. > > Karen > > On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I always assumed it was an ozword. To my ear it sounds typical of what > > they do to words down under. Could be wrong. > > > > BrP > > > > >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 6/7/2005 11:53:01 AM >>> > > Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up > > with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made > > any sense to me. > > > > > > 6/6/2005, 10:11 PM, Bookrat wrote: > > > > B> If I weren't a header > > B> geek, I might not ever notice the addy. > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 11:46:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Gkkv9014414 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:46:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:46:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB02E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:36:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2702159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:36:45 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57GajQK029213 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:36:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3191597nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.16 with SMTP id d16mr678662nzc; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:36:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WmeDv2aTha6SyhJRiOfWrzGaoZLJrBNhfwgC77hoOVfess29cxtJuJGpxl0aP9ryIwb0Gxqlh/sWIjgWIZ7ARk01kCSvmUeUMfJwIlX6Vg7tHMJUuJ7fhwhq7SFaTWJHqXDSZ7aSXiV2m3o0PMXRaKxKR7ojIZ8FmR58Nx0l+ck= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607093647ce2a84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:36:44 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57GajQK029214 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I agree to the extent that I think it sounds like a Britishism, but I think it's mostly a cute-ism. Karen On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I always assumed it was an ozword. To my ear it sounds typical of what > they do to words down under. Could be wrong. > > BrP > > >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 6/7/2005 11:53:01 AM >>> > Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up > with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made > any sense to me. > > > 6/6/2005, 10:11 PM, Bookrat wrote: > > B> If I weren't a header > B> geek, I might not ever notice the addy. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 11:48:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Gmhv9014634 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:48:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:48:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB076@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:48:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2702900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:48:42 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57GmfYY031239 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:48:41 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB086@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:48:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200506071648.j57GmfYY031239@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:48:37 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Actual word question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:42:12 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >WIKIPEDIA IS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! > but the mirrors are up. The world hasn't ended or anything. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 11:54:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Gsnv9015395 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:54:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:54:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB0DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:54:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2703559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:54:48 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57GskeI032390 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:54:47 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j57GsjmM001323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:54:45 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j57GsjFl001321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:54:45 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:54:45 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050607165445.GA1297@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050607093647ce2a84@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607094272ad59e4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050607094272ad59e4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 11:42:12AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = WIKIPEDIA IS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! get over it. everything on the internet goes down sometimes, especially free stuff. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 12:24:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57HOAv9018983 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:24:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:24:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB1B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2705551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57HO8lJ005104 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3228108nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.21 with SMTP id t21mr1461909nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:24:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Qkh5BpKCalOxwJdYd4xO1WMa5nMz5QWzU+9a0Gc9OCRG80Jx86So6w0liEN/k5qLaITsTL47TXh/OixiM9wFx9CPVLD4Kt8/88y42BmIV7mfWAVlf4e7KjUiu7I1OA4U+S1bEdjK3DFAHVIrZ7oubt17NYW8L759EsbjAuqP1zI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:24:08 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Wicked Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57HO9lJ005106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thought this was a younger, Adam-aged word. But last night I heard an old Maine lobsterman say it. Is this word pandemic now? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 12:29:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57HTjv9019615 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:29:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:29:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB1E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:29:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2705713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:29:40 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57HTedL005640 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:29:40 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:29:39 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:29:35 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Wicked Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU um, I think the word was invented by the original Adam Isn't that how the story goes? BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/7/2005 1:24:08 PM >>> I thought this was a younger, Adam-aged word. But last night I heard an old Maine lobsterman say it. Is this word pandemic now? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 12:39:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57HdAv9020673 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:39:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:39:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB20B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:39:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2706122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:39:10 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57Hd9gR007077 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:39:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22209898 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:39:29 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:39:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:41:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <375972974.20050607114111@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Wicked In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 219, in=77403, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/7/2005, 11:29 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> um, I think the word was invented by the original Adam PB> Isn't that how the story goes? If not by Adam, at least by Ray Bradbury.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 12:57:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57HvIv9022658 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:57:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:57:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0066F7F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:57:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2707754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:57:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57HvGiJ009725 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:57:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3253443nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.59 with SMTP id w59mr1474248nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:57:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e7unjo6hOffaef2SgDxfHHkxmhWfr5hD44gveOZwFI4kLLXEMg27leR8lY5bDl5+6Oul1ebPOMMfY05QiNfXzdPyNgt4QJYktMmNapE4ByyiCiz7tqf15ZCtO5Rqzzlg3meC4Y41bYe/M0NEnLKrau2l3IefI5bIyzRMWqJ+rXI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060710571a2aa8bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:57:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607134252.01bf83d8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050607134252.01bf83d8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57HvHiJ009729 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 01:24 PM 6/7/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >I thought this was a younger, Adam-aged word. But last night I heard > >an old Maine lobsterman say it. Is this word pandemic now? > > It is a common adjective in Maine---at least along the coast and in the Bay > Area. > Presumably it has been around these parts for a long time. That it also is > used in Massachusetts suggests that it may have arisen with the sailors and > fishermen who settled along the coast. My Vermont Correspondent said she thought iw as a younger person's word, too. I don't know what that means. Someone spent a summer fishing and started using it and it spread? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:08:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57I8Dv9023962 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:08:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:08:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB2C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:55:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2707643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:55:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57HtbxH009449 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:55:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3251971nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.16 with SMTP id d16mr729302nzc; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:55:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cRALwh1Fru65gp6iO8thBZtHS96Ulcx1rGaSW3tOaMkPtZJt5dPvwqO/mThKgaaRUEMYzPIDeImOijNsVricWi6Wv8su+aslG/LsYdYzoEPuC2va66GmYgaagHDjcCtSvB4weWSZ613T6BmSCO3dJahQEr7EM0fQYfwsn0RpU8o= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060710551f8d0a6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:55:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57HtbxH009451 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > um, I think the word was invented by the original Adam > > Isn't that how the story goes? You know this makes you sound like your dad? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:08:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57I8Dv9023959 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:08:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:08:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB232@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:52:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2706278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:52:13 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57HgCw0007414 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:42:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 29012 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 17:42:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:42:12 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050607174212.GB25307@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607093647ce2a84@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607094272ad59e4@mail.gmail.com> <20050607165445.GA1297@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050607165445.GA1297@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:54:45PM +0200, steph wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 11:42:12AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = WIKIPEDIA IS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! > > get over it. everything on the internet goes down sometimes, especially > free stuff. "Especially" cannot modify when "sometimes" has ... it's a meaningless combination. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:08:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57I8Dv9023960 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:08:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:08:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB235@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:53:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2706406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:53:08 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57Hh8od007572 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:43:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 29204 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 17:43:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:43:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked Message-ID: <20050607174308.GC25307@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:29:35PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > um, I think the word was invented by the original Adam > > Isn't that how the story goes? > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/7/2005 1:24:08 PM >>> > I thought this was a younger, Adam-aged word. But last night I heard HA!!! > an old Maine lobsterman say it. Is this word pandemic now? > > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:08:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57I8Dv9023963 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:08:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:08:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB28A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:55:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2707621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:55:22 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57HtLOY009406 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:55:21 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-162-167.gwi.net [216.195.162.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j57HtG0o089752; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:55:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607134252.01bf83d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:49:18 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:24 PM 6/7/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I thought this was a younger, Adam-aged word. But last night I heard >an old Maine lobsterman say it. Is this word pandemic now? It is a common adjective in Maine---at least along the coast and in the Bay Area. Presumably it has been around these parts for a long time. That it also is used in Massachusetts suggests that it may have arisen with the sailors and fishermen who settled along the coast. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:08:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57I8DvA023962 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:08:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:08:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB2B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:03:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2707987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:03:47 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57I3if9010456 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:03:44 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:03:43 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:03:11 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Wicked Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU and my son >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/7/2005 1:55:37 PM >>> You know this makes you sound like your dad? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:08:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57I8Dv9023961 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:08:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:08:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB270@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:48:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2706083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:48:12 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57HcB56006952 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:38:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 27015 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 17:38:10 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:38:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo Message-ID: <20050607173810.GA25307@words-l.org> References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A5846B.5050207@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A5846B.5050207@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:26:35AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Bookrat wrote: > > >"... In less > >polite language, to do so is either gross affectation or straightforward > >ignorance. It should not be tolerated in any person over the age of > >twelve." > > > Oh dear. Since I am not ignorant of sevenly habits, my crossing must be > gross affectation. Perhaps not if you are Southern. In India it was almost always an irritating affectation, that's for sure ... yes, I know the "clarity" excuse. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:13:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IDLv9024613 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:13:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:13:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB2F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:13:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2708559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:13:20 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IDKrh012005 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:13:20 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-162-167.gwi.net [216.195.162.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j57IDH0o092338; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:13:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141047.01c03eb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:13:15 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Wicked Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:57 PM 6/7/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >My Vermont Correspondent said she thought iw as a younger person's >word, too. I don't know what that means. Someone spent a summer >fishing and started using it and it spread? It is by no means limited in use to those who earn their living on the sea. From the online etymology dictionary: c.1275, earlier wick (12c.), apparently an adj. use of O.E. wicca "wizard" For evolution, cf. wretched from wretch. Slang ironic sense of "wonderful" first attested 1920, in F. Scott Fitzgerald. See: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=wicked cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:24:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IOFv9026380 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:24:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB34D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:14:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2708621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:14:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IEBTF012133 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:14:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3267184nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.52 with SMTP id t52mr1375393nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:14:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sTkQVnKrAxcDSpW5DzdlXH/1q2MmD+rexhWJQ7GWBBy6KE03xCS+XY1B4CiLbo4ASUbYuUCRKbr16B8jldSAYiSyjcJ/Z/vvvfqYPr06kQcD4KEpXSicLHKzjRuC9zJ4RL1/VwA2HxwE+WT9MxmzUY9dvMSb+DRFFnEM4eXWxM8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506071114529ad48e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:14:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57IEBTF012136 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > and my son Gosh, maybe, it's like, genetic!:) > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/7/2005 1:55:37 PM >>> > > You know this makes you sound like your dad? > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:24:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IOFv9026379 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:24:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB37D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:20:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2709094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:20:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IK3Qx012975 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:20:03 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so96131nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.227.55 with SMTP id z55mr1609596nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:13:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qr0ivxSGmknvBV7+Zl4+J8hN8XW+I1z9ITsjTs4fV0icUfVgsbOceVqF5dCxanpAnSywm6eTS4ACVhcPWaRxIE9IvKN1Yye/37wJdijaNq5bYymJsbJYWYxaxCyaDnMmvjYNOr5f/KtnnsTdhxlCYSuQpEXseLNxld9Y02T1Kq0= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:13:22 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57IK3Qx012976 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I thought this was a younger, Adam-aged word. But last night I heard > an old Maine lobsterman say it. Is this word pandemic now? "Wicked!" as an seems younger, but "wicked" as an emphatic (meaning very, fiercely, etc.) doesn't -- to me. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:24:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IOFv9026378 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:24:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB324@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:17:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2708874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:17:22 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IHMdW012639 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:17:22 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:17:22 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:16:55 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: writing numbers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Answer these questions: One: one line only or hooked at the top? Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a loop? Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? Four: open or closed? Six: upside down 9 or not? Seven: crossed? Eight: infinity or snowman? Nine: bottom straight or curled? Discussion will follow. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:24:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IOFv9026377 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:24:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB380@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:20:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2709118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:20:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IKLFV013019 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:20:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so96399nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.19 with SMTP id u19mr1460098nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:20:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mUhsuVUpfDQgPwrMmm67kGniqeGmY/et66Qpvo7j11mQLbZfI1ryb2oh3bcMMvNgqjQyHF6Ev32TsmjbvLPAUFODB68bAfi39Znk8vFLSRi1/bB8d9i2OW8Xlr94eEnOFJ9ceXS/hSMzI8f7Ic2ropr7woGmZMxhOaxo8kUimCg= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:20:21 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57IKMFV013021 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up > with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made > any sense to me. SMS texting slang? I use -y abbreviations in Runescape, which is mainly played by kids, and it's common. Addy is adamantine (weapons material), Lumby is Lumbridge (city), Fally is Falador (city)... Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:24:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IOFv9026372 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:24:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB306@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:15:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2708683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:15:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IFMKC012267 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:15:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3267978nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.73 with SMTP id t73mr1504345nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Pn1wDM/Y62y6y5BHZiQnI0j6R9L7q0j/MKuqMUpr/J6VP5x31RJKrhl/8plDivQibciseJmPhyqUFkEGQuY0agWLAf6B06FVra+N5NqRJ9yRy+GgcKupeZrc9L1JHGROthvQDxWLgw1jjYk0xD/mM0WitNsmH9sXF1hdOeGtO/g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:15:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141047.01c03eb8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141047.01c03eb8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57IFMKC012268 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 01:57 PM 6/7/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >My Vermont Correspondent said she thought iw as a younger person's > >word, too. I don't know what that means. Someone spent a summer > >fishing and started using it and it spread? > > It is by no means limited in use to those who earn their living on the sea. > > From the online etymology dictionary: > > c.1275, earlier wick (12c.), apparently an adj. use of O.E. wicca "wizard" > For evolution, cf. wretched from wretch. Slang ironic > sense of "wonderful" first attested 1920, in F. Scott Fitzgerald. Was F. Scott Fitzgerald a New Englander? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:24:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IOFvA026379 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:24:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB3C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:23:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2709489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:23:29 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57INSAa013622 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:23:28 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-162-167.gwi.net [216.195.162.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j57INO0o093797; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:23:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141940.01c0d8c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:23:18 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141047.01c03eb8@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:15 PM 6/7/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >Was F. Scott Fitzgerald a New Englander? Born in St.Paul, MN; educated in the East (Newman School, Princeton--no degree). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:24:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IOFvA026380 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:24:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB3AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:22:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2709436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:22:43 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IMfGU013484 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:22:41 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 101262982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:22:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42A5E5F1.9000105@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:22:41 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm a little nervous about what I might be giving away about myself here, but: Paul Barfoot wrote: >Answer these questions: > >One: one line only or hooked at the top? > > Hooked. >Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a >loop? > > Not a loop, a point. >Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? > > A point. >Four: open or closed? > > Open. >Six: upside down 9 or not? > > Not. >Seven: crossed? > > Not crossed. >Eight: infinity or snowman? > > Infinity. >Nine: bottom straight or curled? > > Straight - thus the answer to 6. > >Discussion will follow. > > And just for completeness, 0 is crossed. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:35:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IZ2v9027704 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:35:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:35:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB3D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:28:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2709760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:28:10 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IS9cE014479 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:28:09 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-162-167.gwi.net [216.195.162.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j57IS60o094608; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:28:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607142413.01c02d90@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:28:06 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:16 PM 6/7/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Answer these questions: > >One: one line only or hooked at the top? one line >Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a >loop? very tight loop >Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? point >Four: open or closed? open >Six: upside down 9 or not? no >Seven: crossed? no >Eight: infinity or snowman? infinity >Nine: bottom straight or curled? straight cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:35:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IZ2v9027701 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:35:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:35:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB3BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:25:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2709598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:25:01 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IP1pk013866 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:25:01 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id E07B4BE8BF; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7350C2849 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:24:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Wanna flirt? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.netzmarkt.de/flirtshow/flm5700.htm Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:35:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IZ2v9027705 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:35:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:35:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB39E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:29:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2709830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:29:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57ITY4X014627 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:29:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so106151nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.29 with SMTP id u29mr1579729nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:22:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QrSiVmSH2/YSHdI8uSXfiAdTYn1QxEc70N0gVthaR8YYhWCztrDuPm/m3aiOjIU183zWoQsnyJWLuczwi1K0X5MU4iWfQNDmdxt2xPlMJZHBXqRFwguad3sEszPFjL+OOgijT+mjyJeqKM+sZi39PFfGnuQ3LZHDcloTUMAHSGI= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:22:54 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141047.01c03eb8@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57ITZ4X014633 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Was F. Scott Fitzgerald a New Englander? Wikipedia's back up, and it doesn't think so. Minneapolis, Paris, Hollywood, but not New England, not for any notable period. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:37:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IbOv9028006 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:37:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:37:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB472@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:37:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2709715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:37:24 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IRNO8014386 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:27:23 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j57IRNjL015853 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200506071827.j57IRNjL015853@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Gene Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/6/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Sending good wishes, Doris! Hope all goes well. The same from me ... Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:38:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IcEv9028077 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:38:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:38:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB478@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:38:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2711086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:38:14 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IcDHA016079 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:38:13 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:38:13 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:37:42 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: writing numbers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU To be fair, I should expose myself as well One: single line except when I'm writing to russian friends Two: no loop Three: ditto Four: open in casual writing, closed in formal writing Six: upside down 9 Seven: crossed Eight: snowman Nine: see six BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:45:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IjKv9028910 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:45:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:45:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB4CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:45:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2711657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:45:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IjHwK017243 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:45:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so122668nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.57.20 with SMTP id f20mr1631396nza; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:45:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=F+g1QJX74myM0RbPogRH6l6J8QTIVRmIqt4svyt3ao9zyUVFT/BPu1sUtp5vL5KQpfF9yrseXvszMGcdxIK61TRc/QTBA/kyEQUCZCfK/mvVSlRPSCCb99Y1d2nVGWHTpHjU6EkNBPBeVyPOXsiPb4pICrpPjsiEdeC/goDS/Qo= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:45:17 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Life in the Bible Belt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506041219.j54CJcQS030402@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000701c56900$91b51f50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57IjHwK017245 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Next time you have the opportunity, ask one of these Christians what they > think about, say, Leviticus 11 and Leviticus 12, or whether or not their > congregations obey Leviticus 12:16-23. Is this a trick question? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:51:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Ip9v9029471 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:51:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:51:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB54F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:51:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2712685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:51:08 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57Ip7Yd018499 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:51:08 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:51:07 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:50:58 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: writing numbers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It would only be interesting to me. The point is just that I wonder if I learned these color-number associations from a long forgotten source and what it would feel like to run across it some day. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/7/2005 2:47:24 PM >>> Make one! On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Oh, and the synesthetic response > > One: gray > Two: yellow > Three: light pink > Four: blue > Five: green > Six: orange > Seven: brown > Eight: dark pink > Nine: see six > Zero: clear or white > > > I have a fantasy that some day I am going run across the children's > book that shows the numbers in these colors or something. > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:52:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Iqev9029534 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:52:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:52:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB54C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:52:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2712811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:52:40 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57Iqda6018738 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:52:39 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:52:39 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:52:07 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Life in the Bible Belt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU or most of Deuteronomy -especially 23 >>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 6/7/2005 2:45:17 PM >>> > Next time you have the opportunity, ask one of these Christians what they > think about, say, Leviticus 11 and Leviticus 12, or whether or not their > congregations obey Leviticus 12:16-23. Is this a trick question? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:54:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IsLv9029714 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:54:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:54:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066FA7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:51:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2712715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:51:34 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IpXWL018546 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:51:33 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-162-167.gwi.net [216.195.162.167]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j57IpKjo003191; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:51:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607142914.01c0eff0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:30:12 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:13 PM 6/7/2005, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > I thought this was a younger, Adam-aged word. But last night I heard > > an old Maine lobsterman say it. Is this word pandemic now? >... but "wicked" as an >emphatic (meaning very, fiercely, etc.) doesn't -- to me. That is the prevalent use here. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:54:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IsLv9029715 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:54:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:54:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0066F982@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:45:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2711953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:45:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IjjDd017421 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:45:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so122991nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.178.6 with SMTP id a6mr1637922nzf; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:39:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rywt0b1xFVunGE8ou2J4StEQ47Gv3tk1QOdKUHh5ajfKosiIcYfZ6cJZ8XPdVJRZuZrRACl4VTjC86QpukKOynrtSxDnjpg4TKY+QVeuQEpkgQ5znqhdklL2wOfq8HSS77QxHfJ4kH9Tsy/CE6IsDbzDnSo6ysDvrD1FWpu5hUQ= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:39:05 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57IjkDd017424 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > One: one line only or hooked at the top? Most of the time one line, but hooked and with a baseline serif if I need to distinguish between one and the letter i, which also grows serifs. > Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a > loop? Nope, just an angle. > Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? A point. Is the top angular or curved? (Curved.) > Four: open or closed? Closed. > Six: upside down 9 or not? Not, but only because my 9s have straight legs. > Seven: crossed? No. > Eight: infinity or snowman? Depends on my mood. In a hurry, it might be infinity (broken at the top). > Nine: bottom straight or curled? Straight. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:54:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IsLv9029716 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:54:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:54:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066FA57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:47:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2712279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:47:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IlPtt017797 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:47:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3291696nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.12 with SMTP id y12mr1413261nzb; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:47:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Fq5qVboEJNPNO3DUGgqCpBodzBBONKQJLAKWndkN8gsFg3+dW0x6qb/XA3YPVu0WX/zI0wU/U9N85vLmdomFsYIAMslS7roqbQRW5q3cSXKFwj5blQQdWiMR+LWtpwwWNJFz/zlu37Tg+tAhlEzBxmeOaZ4WWVu8+NnKF8mnvTA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607114716b8bfb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:47:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57IlQtt017802 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Make one! On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Oh, and the synesthetic response > > One: gray > Two: yellow > Three: light pink > Four: blue > Five: green > Six: orange > Seven: brown > Eight: dark pink > Nine: see six > Zero: clear or white > > > I have a fantasy that some day I am going run across the children's > book that shows the numbers in these colors or something. > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:54:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IsLv9029711 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:54:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:54:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0066F981@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:45:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2711948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:45:49 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IjiON017417 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:45:44 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:45:44 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:45:31 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: writing numbers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, and the synesthetic response One: gray Two: yellow Three: light pink Four: blue Five: green Six: orange Seven: brown Eight: dark pink Nine: see six Zero: clear or white I have a fantasy that some day I am going run across the children's book that shows the numbers in these colors or something. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 13:54:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57IsLv9029709 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:54:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:54:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066F965@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:24:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2709556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:24:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IOJS8013776 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:24:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3274980nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.21 with SMTP id t21mr1501622nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:24:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P7K1C23DqukTcoTAYEPnvOy/1JjBVzwHZBeG3Qp3j0eI6b/7KClyOI98tft8tl5g4QfqmloDtLum52KJMlqb81q530EltfRMaaIkAeYQ4m/KWJaRHpWnzVh2SdWKI4sKghmPKJcrebCUDSFVKLN/V1KIhQhdzKwPJe4Kgyqz1RA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060711246eecd88e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:24:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57IOKS8013777 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Answer these questions: > > One: one line only or hooked at the top? One line > Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a > loop? No > Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? Point > Four: open or closed? usually closed > Six: upside down 9 or not? Yes > Seven: crossed? No > Eight: infinity or snowman? Infinity--I know you're a snowball. > Nine: bottom straight or curled? curved > Discussion will follow. How neurotic am I? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:15:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JFWv9032255 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:15:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:15:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB5A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:02:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2713963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:02:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57J2jbs020578 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:02:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3302649nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr628230nzd; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:02:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Pq+Dqp5samg91CltRtcO1HzdYLjaCbZvmwAV2F7SMi2CTQUaCeUZTc7+3QUE0pgEGXFASzhEfHtwek8GlgO3DXvk3/wA+lzN82jbZP1Mc4Xyv6huSJbL05YpTXAUfSol1z2Lc2HrkSTXeaYfYxu3CLlrK3/mb8ajyqaHTl12Aok= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:02:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57J2kbs020581 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have no synesthesia for numbers, but I do for letters. On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > It would only be interesting to me. The point is just that I wonder if > I learned these color-number associations from a long forgotten source > and what it would feel like to run across it some day. > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/7/2005 2:47:24 PM >>> > Make one! > > On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Oh, and the synesthetic response > > > > One: gray > > Two: yellow > > Three: light pink > > Four: blue > > Five: green > > Six: orange > > Seven: brown > > Eight: dark pink > > Nine: see six > > Zero: clear or white > > > > > > I have a fantasy that some day I am going run across the children's > > book that shows the numbers in these colors or something. > > > > BrP > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:16:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JFWv9032254 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:15:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:15:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB588@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:59:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2713704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:59:47 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57IxlBI020019 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:59:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22163135 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:07:43 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:00:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:01:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <484224454.20050607130148@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Actual word question In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 222, in=91144, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/7/2005, 12:20 PM, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up >> with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made >> any sense to me. BO> SMS texting slang? I use -y abbreviations in Runescape, which is BO> mainly played by kids, and it's common. Addy is adamantine (weapons BO> material), Lumby is Lumbridge (city), Fally is Falador (city)... Interesting idea. That's the first one that has made sense to me, whether right or wrong. I'm an old D&D player from the dark ages, but not in a couple decades. Never really got into the online games for the most part, except for occasional bursts of Bedazzled or Freecell. Also sometimes practice my bridge with a pretty decent online one too. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:16:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JFWvA032255 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:15:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:16:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB602@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:05:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2714205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:05:50 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57J5kmB020982 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:05:46 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-162-167.gwi.net [216.195.162.167]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j57J5g0o099672; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:05:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607150024.01bd8268@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:05:38 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141047.01c03eb8@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:22 PM 6/7/2005, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > Was F. Scott Fitzgerald a New Englander? > >Wikipedia's back up, and it doesn't think so. Minneapolis, Paris, >Hollywood, but not New England, not for any notable period. Not that it makes much difference. The etymological entry said that he "attested" to its use---not that he invented it or used it personally, or grew up in an area where it was often used. As for the biography: http://www.sc.edu/fitzgerald/biography.html Oh---and when did Wikkipedia develop cognitive abilities? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:16:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JFWvA032254 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:16:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:16:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB63F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:10:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2713757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:10:23 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57J0M4e020133 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:00:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 80025 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 19:00:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:00:21 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked Message-ID: <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:13:22PM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > I thought this was a younger, Adam-aged word. But last night I heard > > an old Maine lobsterman say it. Is this word pandemic now? > > "Wicked!" as an seems younger, but "wicked" as an > emphatic (meaning very, fiercely, etc.) doesn't -- to me. I agree, but this is way too much precision for words-l ... The question was about how common the "word" is, so please let's get with the program and go round and round with the "word" and ceaselessly talk at cross purposes and have a great time ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:16:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JFWvA032253 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:16:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:16:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB651@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:11:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2713863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:11:24 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57J1NuB020378 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:01:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 80343 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 19:01:22 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:01:22 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050607190122.GB76559@words-l.org> References: <42A5E5F1.9000105@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A5E5F1.9000105@bc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:22:41PM -0400, Rita Leonard wrote: > I'm a little nervous about what I might be giving away about myself > here, but: > > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >Answer these questions: > > > >One: one line only or hooked at the top? > > > > > Hooked. > > >Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a > >loop? > > > > > Not a loop, a point. > > >Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? > > > > > A point. > > >Four: open or closed? > > > > > Open. > > >Six: upside down 9 or not? > > > > > Not. > > >Seven: crossed? > > > > > Not crossed. > > >Eight: infinity or snowman? > > > > > Infinity. > > >Nine: bottom straight or curled? > > > > > Straight - thus the answer to 6. > > > > >Discussion will follow. > > > > And just for completeness, 0 is crossed. You are a potential serial killer. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:16:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JFWvA032251 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:16:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:16:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB630@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:13:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2714058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:13:43 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57J3gxu020724 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:03:43 -0400 Received: (qmail 81331 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 19:03:42 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:03:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050607190342.GC76559@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060711246eecd88e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060711246eecd88e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:24:16PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Answer these questions: > > > > One: one line only or hooked at the top? > > One line > > > Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a > > loop? > > No > > > Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? > > Point > > > Four: open or closed? > > usually closed > > > Six: upside down 9 or not? > > Yes > > > Seven: crossed? > > No > > > Eight: infinity or snowman? > > Infinity--I know you're a snowball. > > > Nine: bottom straight or curled? > > curved > > > Discussion will follow. > > How neurotic am I? This agrees with me in all respects. I guess you are a total ch*k magnet, a hero to all men, and play the sax like a god? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:16:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JFWv9032253 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:15:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:15:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB59B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:57:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2713368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:57:02 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57Iv1oV019507 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:57:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22220919 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:57:21 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:57:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:59:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <943811278.20050607125903@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 219, in=77480, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/7/2005, 12:16 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> Answer these questions: PB> One: one line only or hooked at the top? one line only PB> Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a PB> loop? no loop. PB> Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? point. PB> Four: open or closed? open PB> Six: upside down 9 or not? more or less PB> Seven: crossed? usually PB> Eight: infinity or snowman? closer to infinity, though not as elongated (and of course rotated 90 degrees) PB> Nine: bottom straight or curled? straight PB> Discussion will follow. have at it PB> BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:16:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JFWvB032251 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:16:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:16:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB648@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:16:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2715303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:16:12 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JGAjG022960 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:16:10 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB647@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:16:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200506071916.j57JGAjG022960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:16:09 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: writing numbers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:16:55 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Answer these questions: > >One: one line only or hooked at the top? Both > >Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a >loop? no loopo > >Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? something more like a carat < > >Four: open or closed? open > >Six: upside down 9 or not? > rounder >Seven: crossed? either > >Eight: infinity or snowman? infinity > >Nine: bottom straight or curled? straight but tipped > > >Discussion will follow. > > >BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:16:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JFWv9032256 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:15:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:16:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB5E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:02:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2713946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:02:42 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57J2f8Q020555 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:02:42 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22163620 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:10:38 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:03:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:04:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1479709224.20050607130443@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Life in the Bible Belt In-Reply-To: References: <200506041219.j54CJcQS030402@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000701c56900$91b51f50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 222, in=91148, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/7/2005, 12:45 PM, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> Next time you have the opportunity, ask one of these Christians what they >> think about, say, Leviticus 11 and Leviticus 12, or whether or not their >> congregations obey Leviticus 12:16-23. BO> Is this a trick question? Obviously. I ignored the obvious bait of the nonexistent citation at the end of the above. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:16:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JFWv9032251 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:15:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:16:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB54C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:55:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2713225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:55:31 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57ItUpp019195 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:55:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22162565 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:03:26 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:55:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:57:31 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1234705530.20050607125731@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Wicked In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141047.01c03eb8@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 222, in=91139, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/7/2005, 12:15 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> c.1275, earlier wick (12c.), apparently an adj. use of O.E. wicca "wizard" >> For evolution, cf. wretched from wretch. Slang ironic >> sense of "wonderful" first attested 1920, in F. Scott Fitzgerald. AFoA> Was F. Scott Fitzgerald a New Englander? Nope. Check e.g. http://www.sc.edu/fitzgerald/biography.html for info. Upstate NY, Twin Cities, NJ, and in 1920 NYC and suburban CT. Certainly not a "down easter" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:27:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JRQv9000710 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:27:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB6C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:24:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2715181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:24:56 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57JEt5D022744 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:14:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 87621 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 19:14:55 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:14:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050607191455.GD76559@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:45:31PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Oh, and the synesthetic response > > One: gray > Two: yellow > Three: light pink > Four: blue > Five: green > Six: orange > Seven: brown > Eight: dark pink > Nine: see six > Zero: clear or white Have you ever thought of the possibility that you might be gay? 0: black 1: white 2: red 3: sky blue 4: orange 5: carmine 6: brown 7: green 8: yellow 9: blue From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:27:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JRQv9000707 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:27:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB65C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:17:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2715442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:17:21 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JHJK4023191 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:17:19 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 94297983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:16:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42A5F2BE.6010804@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:17:18 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers References: <42A5E5F1.9000105@bc.edu> <20050607190122.GB76559@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050607190122.GB76559@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >You are a potential serial killer. > > Potential? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:27:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JRQv9000709 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:27:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB65D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:17:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2715447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:17:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JHKwL023197 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:17:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so18976nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.80 with SMTP id u80mr1487389nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:17:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Waz0tJx2JRHO2aUgwfd/2FylgDF0jyvcanWWXonA8LZbaB/rHljOtll0qPLiIHx9RpxXeqY3f8XRMONcFZrzP1TbgeJ4Dia2d8wypQGczBdkHTblAjjp18Xujihg3exky0Ok1r/PB6lFSdK/ApMJofNbIhFdLXDb9Uq7IIt5r7g= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:17:20 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57JHLwL023199 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I have no synesthesia for numbers, but I do for letters. Do you recognize more named colors than neurotypicals? I used to think in terms of the Crayola 8, but I've gradually learned to recognize khaki, pine, oak, cinnamon, etc. and have occasionally stared at something trying to decide whether to call its color mango, coral, peach, or what. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:27:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JRQv9000708 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:27:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB680@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:22:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2715781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:22:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JMdVN024151 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:22:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so22914nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.74 with SMTP id u74mr1620421nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:22:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aiIKfcmxlmK6yOyJvrKm4wqZKbAWuUjcJzIEZbzVjBCa7HxWTbUej6QM31ddMgxignaRbe9Hm6WtmIg1TU7RJLvIeIbe3lN+rrltjfZT66MZdzzIZsKIEyDyXQt2jGbfeb0ZXIjrVooKxBaaRi+mfZ15WuoFvjjy48aZK2eIScI= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:22:39 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Looks like I got the feds' attention... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57JMeVN024154 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.epa.gov/privacy/news/ Haven't heard from any jackbooted thugs, though. Googling for "anonymous library cards" has gotten really interesting. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:28:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JSJv9000770 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:28:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:28:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB6F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:28:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2715554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:28:19 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57JIHLq023432 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:18:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 88598 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 19:18:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:18:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked Message-ID: <20050607191817.GA88138@words-l.org> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141047.01c03eb8@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050607150024.01bd8268@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607150024.01bd8268@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:05:38PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > Oh---and when did Wikkipedia develop cognitive abilities? Entry #100000 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:33:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JXlv9001514 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:33:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:33:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066FA03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:33:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2716531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:33:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JXkqg025661 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:33:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3324854nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.8 with SMTP id q8mr1435841nzq; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:33:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qxFrS2VROsBVr2j72QuQICKdw6HH4EzvFxCRJ8iQUlPVIDNdHciE02q/0XD9Z6DsoUZ1q4Z/SIXoLSvhhn6ZNr6enV+RNPIbyiQGVGgGo0lzi/8GgtOELmlTXs2rWWX0AajGcXN/X3Ltedf+IgZStYRkgELvuY3dRG3czw+lyXg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607123351e6f24a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:33:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: <20050607191817.GA88138@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141047.01c03eb8@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050607150024.01bd8268@pop.gwi.net> <20050607191817.GA88138@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57JXkqg025663 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:05:38PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > > > Oh---and when did Wikkipedia develop cognitive abilities? > > Entry #100000 No, entry 9 billion. Everyone knows that. Someone (maybe Ray Bradbury?) knows that. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:34:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JYev9001600 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:34:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:34:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB6E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:34:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2716588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:34:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JYbuq025775 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:34:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3325436nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.17 with SMTP id t17mr1438857nzc; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:34:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XTXffPSastHdo3GVl83rMb2nbZJvtupKlG4smTz9rQGiLCJ+N/sx0Nec9aipu8Lrztxv9/R4njYrMZWYO9xXunF2Ujb52l4eoudu1lB5hAN9wh++YnfYBiLXd6ilNk2Kn+0QPE3YZjBJQKOJDI5Fjq1Csl9CCZs13laWh5H3HJk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607123430d685a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:34:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Looks like I got the feds' attention... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57JYcuq025777 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU EPA??? Are you polluting? On 6/7/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > http://www.epa.gov/privacy/news/ > > Haven't heard from any jackbooted thugs, though. > > Googling for "anonymous library cards" has gotten really interesting. > > Ben > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:35:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JZ1v9001654 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:35:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:35:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB723@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:35:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2716617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:35:00 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JYx4J025822 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:34:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:34:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:34:35 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Looks like I got the feds' attention... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Congratulations! BrP >>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 6/7/2005 3:22:39 PM >>> http://www.epa.gov/privacy/news/ Haven't heard from any jackbooted thugs, though. Googling for "anonymous library cards" has gotten really interesting. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:35:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JZjv9001728 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:35:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:35:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066FA0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:35:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2716660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:35:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JZdpo025927 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:35:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3326085nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.59 with SMTP id w59mr1541285nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:35:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I3ZVsIpAoGMmGN9E9w0a8uC30ftyDRH6AnL9xaumbvgmgLlgEpUNzUJUGQWiF+3aWkD3ax45VueA6Sn5BcunBlP9OBi8lJ5RVUSB9ZopmACnR93/Y2Cpt4sCQO5j1+Ysk1e5cyMNgjiDkBOdh9T+fLWsux/sWf2ZZLCPKTP7DFY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060712352607097a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:35:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <20050607190342.GC76559@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060711246eecd88e@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190342.GC76559@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57JZdpo025930 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > This agrees with me in all respects. I guess you are a total > ch*k magnet, a hero to all men, and play the sax like a god? Pretty much. I didn't know that you played sax. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:36:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Jaav9001832 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:36:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:36:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066FBCA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:36:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2716703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:36:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JaZUn026090 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:36:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3326780nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.73 with SMTP id t73mr1559986nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MQP5vgMLHsUOhNDr/wG0bJT/3Q6gRpCvn37y0vANYb9eifi27DVuR9pVVkLtmcTngspD3nQna5gSg30R4NW3j2HAGv4+ihT/tAupwpIXAxlRcLwNEsRBe2Nv7oS9/3MvNk8+DZmV8lQWNjTj2JnPpk+l7R+otQNzEq1XvaEorm0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:36:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57JaZUn026091 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Neurotypicals? On 6/7/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > I have no synesthesia for numbers, but I do for letters. > > Do you recognize more named colors than neurotypicals? I used to > think in terms of the Crayola 8, but I've gradually learned to > recognize khaki, pine, oak, cinnamon, etc. and have occasionally > stared at something trying to decide whether to call its color mango, > coral, peach, or what. > > Ben > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:38:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Jbtv9001924 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:37:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:38:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0066FB1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:37:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2716749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:37:55 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JbsXO026221 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:37:55 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:37:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:37:43 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: writing numbers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This reminds me. My son has taken to describing himself as an "ethnic homosexual" that is, he was raised in the faith and his parents and sister are true believers. He is proud of his heritage, but no longer practices it. BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 6/7/2005 3:14:55 PM >>> Have you ever thought of the possibility that you might be gay? 0: black 1: white 2: red 3: sky blue 4: orange 5: carmine 6: brown 7: green 8: yellow 9: blue From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:40:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57JeIv9002269 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:40:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:40:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0066FBD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:40:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2716906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:40:17 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JeGTn026582 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:40:16 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:40:16 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:40:06 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: writing numbers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I love that "normal" has become so frequently euphemized BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/7/2005 3:36:35 PM >>> Neurotypicals? On 6/7/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > I have no synesthesia for numbers, but I do for letters. > > Do you recognize more named colors than neurotypicals? I used to > think in terms of the Crayola 8, but I've gradually learned to > recognize khaki, pine, oak, cinnamon, etc. and have occasionally > stared at something trying to decide whether to call its color mango, > coral, peach, or what. > > Ben > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 14:42:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Jgsv9002571 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:42:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:42:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB74D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:42:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2716957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:42:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JgqjW026836 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:42:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so37786nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.148.20 with SMTP id v20mr1680925nzd; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:42:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KRpBNOSvz1pCTAzyZax47IEC1REinmNavmf8to3gf8m0DFhy49ROwyJtDFM89BNFjPEYtcOmtZhIYAVEMHEt3iA5XTKi8Kr1n1uiByCIgi8m5+3jtVyDtN9cI4u+q5BXkLc1us0ZOAMdcdtne+gmyx2Xzizjhu1LLcbhR91cmak= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:42:52 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Looks like I got the feds' attention... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050607123430d685a8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607123430d685a8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57JgrjW026838 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > EPA??? Are you polluting? Apparently so! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:04:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57K4Lv9004415 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:04:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:04:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB753@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:51:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2716923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:51:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57JfTxU026725 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:41:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 7650 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 19:41:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:41:29 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050607194129.GA6650@words-l.org> References: <42A5E5F1.9000105@bc.edu> <20050607190122.GB76559@words-l.org> <42A5F2BE.6010804@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A5F2BE.6010804@bc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:17:18PM -0400, Rita Leonard wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >You are a potential serial killer. > > > Potential? Why are you talking to me? I said nothing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:04:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57K4Lv9004411 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:04:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:04:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB759@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:44:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2717062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:44:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JiKOa027051 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:44:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so38835nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.20.17 with SMTP id 17mr12188nzt; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:44:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L6MPXmpebDxGzdWrMkv+oK29pKrwclJaK9mKIsKNeswYQaTKlA2JKPdgIH2Pawkm86EYGHHEEFIE6jCrI8ikhtmT9E2EUUsznRsWfTNa2Ws8E1bJFtuh77VwSk3wP95JMQVtRuLDTmwANjMvaUuEK9cxiAW3qToeXw7OqgxAdts= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:44:19 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57JiKOa027052 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This reminds me. My son has taken to describing himself as an "ethnic > homosexual" that is, he was raised in the faith and his parents and > sister are true believers. He is proud of his heritage, but no longer > practices it. This is highly amusing. I will propagate it along with "hetero-curious", which describes our bi-but-mostly-gay roommate. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:05:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57K4Lv9004413 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:04:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:04:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAB796@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:49:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2716833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:49:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57JdW2Y026387 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:39:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 6602 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 19:39:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:39:31 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050607193931.GB88138@words-l.org> References: <200506071916.j57JGAjG022960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506071916.j57JGAjG022960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU These questions are badly framed, like a blog poll. Take for instance 6. The lower down the curve the loop closes, the more "feminine" it looks. Thus, the question is, do you close it south/southeast, or west? Talking about the "horizontal" stroke of 2 begs the question. A lot of people have it going diagonally down. The third important question should be about 5 and 3--do you have straight-line angles in the top half or is everything curvy and cuddly? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:05:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57K4Lv9004412 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:04:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:04:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB722@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:45:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2717101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:45:06 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57Jj6nW027207 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:45:06 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so20074rnf for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.11.34 with SMTP id 34mr3238456rnk; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:45:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rkSwhQsXwxsaj6pOfe25enY4Gbao7tkU3N5Y2Qk+JXyucE7hG/7GQKsuNInA3u4tlNFcYOzTVtfaoDoNobSyVqe8h12cRgx8nnB6AbHzhuKB/vCdWQMWIh3Qe5pPCVmPCSBT8d/t2CjYmT77NBfyDuHkyqlJBsdCzrDDysdp3fU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:45:05 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo In-Reply-To: <42A5853B.4030705@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050606230042.01bd82c0@pop.gwi.net> <42A5853B.4030705@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57Jj6nW027211 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > > I also believe that people who use > > "data" in the singular are equally ignorant and should not be tolerated. > > But -a is not a plural marker in English. Why not anglicize? (That > being said, I will admit to sticking to the way, at > least in writing. But I believe it's changing -- that in another > hundred or so years "data" as singular will be standard. Ditto "media," > which for some reason grates on me in a way singular "data" does not.) I don't think "data" is much used in the singular; rather it has become a mass noun rather than the plural of the count(able) one it once was. Datum is still used, but when data is being used as a mass noun, often "data point" is used for one item within the mass. Media is a bit different, because of its use to describe newspapers, TV, and so on, for which there is no reasonable singular "medium". Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:05:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57K4LvA004415 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:04:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:05:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAB834@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:54:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2718864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:54:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JsX7b029293 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:54:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:54:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:54:11 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How about emphemera? You hardly ever hear anything referred to as an ephemeron. BrP >>> tharminc@GMAIL.COM 6/7/2005 3:45:05 PM >>> I don't think "data" is much used in the singular; rather it has become a mass noun rather than the plural of the count(able) one it once was. Datum is still used, but when data is being used as a mass noun, often "data point" is used for one item within the mass. Media is a bit different, because of its use to describe newspapers, TV, and so on, for which there is no reasonable singular "medium". Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:05:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57K4Lv9004414 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:04:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:05:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB750@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:50:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2717499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:50:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57JonpG028287 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:50:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3336995nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.59 with SMTP id w59mr1552116nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:50:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UQ0rWrmMy0Xw6djhfUpL6+xh9k5hV35JIDu9AE4NbwD3/TT+jqL9FH1gQLbLnZzv9YZN0sgqVgnaIzYOmPhIV4/UAgYuJuU8CwWy1GOpabFg18A8ZGTAU5rbWHPTUyx6zI/hyYIufW3jAAeevT1xIkSV5IMi81Ht4tOflfTtkDQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060712506024a8fd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:50:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <20050607193931.GB88138@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506071916.j57JGAjG022960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050607193931.GB88138@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57JonpG028288 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > The third important question should be about 5 and 3--do you > have straight-line angles in the top half or is everything > curvy and cuddly? You are such a homophobe! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:05:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57K4LvA004411 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:04:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:05:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB8A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:04:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2720304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:04:46 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57K4k4o031439 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:04:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:04:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:04:12 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: writing numbers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That woud be SO unfair >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 6/7/2005 3:51:36 PM >>> Maybe he should move to Canada. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:11:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57KBhv9005503 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:11:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:11:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066FB1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:01:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2717536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:01:42 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57JpbGC028435 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:51:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 12089 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jun 2005 19:51:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:51:36 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050607195136.GB6650@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:37:43PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > This reminds me. My son has taken to describing himself as an "ethnic > homosexual" that is, he was raised in the faith and his parents and > sister are true believers. He is proud of his heritage, but no longer > practices it. Maybe he should move to Canada. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:11:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57KBhv9005505 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:11:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:11:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0066FB4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:06:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2720430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:06:32 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57K6VXt031711 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:06:31 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005060720062801200191r2e>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:06:29 +0000 Message-ID: <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:06:28 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers References: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen writes, > Neurotypicals? Commonly used term in the autistic community, referring to people with typical, unchallenging/unchallenged brains. Here's an extreme example, (mostly) tongue-in-cheek: http://isnt.autistics.org/ Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:14:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57KESv9005762 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:14:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:14:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAB915@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:14:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2721180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:14:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57KER4T000600 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:14:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so3352987nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.126.9 with SMTP id y9mr738215nzc; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:07:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KGuEJmiS0hDiFiC6CnuNytbtLam8CjJ3rlk4pDaqxomux7Hm/U7Lf7pzqRP2SnvWhVZK8ZLXJpfJ61QTv2USi5xyEEOFOZXtIp51KRmKOvr6DIR0VQhRdacSUEoFMc7oU0LI0KQbh6SGdSVwbD6hZzT+UxkZFoGfBPZn4aJ803I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:07:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57KER4T000601 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ah. I thought we determined that I'm not neurotypical. On 6/7/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen writes, > > > Neurotypicals? > > Commonly used term in the autistic community, referring to people with > typical, unchallenging/unchallenged brains. > > Here's an extreme example, (mostly) tongue-in-cheek: > > http://isnt.autistics.org/ > > Pete > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:50:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Koav9010520 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:50:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:50:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FABA10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:33:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2723093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:33:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57KXaUH003895 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:33:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so5174nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.16 with SMTP id d16mr834586nzc; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:33:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U3cpyrjnanza1219xHmCj/MAs2wOjLX0DNiELNVAM8Du1yvXrnNv3b58xBctudypAC2UqasSCOWt4TrNT3QMSJiLJuqBRmZ0d2irwNRMbfSaRhvG0eSE3YIQ+02RS6TPMfnz7YKBxndDoxidfMEfXlcfo5rFzx4bI/b6be4kdiI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506071333462efe42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:33:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Evelyn In-Reply-To: <20050607203033.0461D5D50@pobox.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050607203033.0461D5D50@pobox.upenn.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57KXaUH003896 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU She posted yesterday. Do you know something I don't know? On 6/7/05, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > Is she gone ? > > > Alec > > ------- > Alec D. Plotkin > plotkina@att.net > 'In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at > heart.'' - Anne Frank > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:50:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Koav9010522 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:50:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:50:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FABA24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:35:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2723243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:35:29 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57KZSBn004182 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:35:28 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 94304718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:35:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42A6050F.6080608@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:35:27 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Evelyn References: <20050607203033.0461D5D50@pobox.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050607203033.0461D5D50@pobox.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >Is she gone ? > > > Funny you should ask. I was wondering that myself in the last couple of weeks. She did pop in with a single post just yesterday or the day before, though. She is probably just very busy. Rita L From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 15:51:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Koav9010521 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:50:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:51:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FABA31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:30:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2722736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:30:35 -0400 Received: from mail108.messagelabs.com (mail108.messagelabs.com [216.82.255.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j57KUYNe003152 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:30:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 29335 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2005 20:30:33 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-12.tower-108.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 2005 20:30:33 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0461D5D50 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:30:33 -0400 (EDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-108.messagelabs.com!1118176233!32552688!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.15; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [128.91.2.38] From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Evelyn Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:30:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcVrn7zJsrSaDy4oTsCltDmqBWFeKA== Message-Id: <20050607203033.0461D5D50@pobox.upenn.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is she gone ? Alec ------- Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net 'In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart.'' - Anne Frank From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 16:14:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57LEmv9012989 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:14:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:14:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FABC0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2727145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:04:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57L4k3O009919 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:04:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so11560nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.24 with SMTP id u24mr1609854nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:18:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KP7HJ7ri7ntoaOIhNOgXGS5yXfpNCk1LE5CR85k3vPCE1qMDdxN0fumpunY5y8/nCf+CGRrJZ3Bne5MFUZJG0acwn07kDwTqpJljTpacVc3x3TlbrJjTxVMkaZosCHb30O+nloGvn6bnwO8INeSqK0NehwmmOJGe7rAQbY7b6oM= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:18:06 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57L4l3O009922 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The question was about how common the "word" is, so please > let's get with the program and go round and round with the > "word" and ceaselessly talk at cross purposes and have a > great time ... Agreed. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 17:08:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57M8Gv9018579 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:08:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:08:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FABEFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:58:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2732529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:58:52 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57Lwqa0018141 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:58:52 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 132D22913BC9 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:58:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c56bac$5bc4ac90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: R. I. P. Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:00:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j57M8Gv9018579 Anne Bancroft. 73. Poor Mel. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 17:08:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57M8Gv9018578 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:08:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:08:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FABEA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:58:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2732453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:58:15 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57LwE7P018075 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:58:14 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j57LwDIB006455 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:58:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:58:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > One: one line only or hooked at the top? One line only. In rare circumstances, I add serifs to distinguish it from I's. > Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a > loop? No loop, just a point. > Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? No loop, just a point. > Four: open or closed? Closed, with a triangular top. About 25 years ago, I deliberately changed the way I made 4's and 9's because they were too similar. My 4's became more angular, my 9's became upside down 6's. > Six: upside down 9 or not? Yes, see 4. > Seven: crossed? In high school, I crossed my 7's, but later I got out of the habit. > Eight: infinity or snowman? Formerly infinity, but now usually snowman, especially if I'm writing carefully. I remember that the infinity version was absolutely prohibited in my Chicago elementary school, but I don't remember how to do the version they taught us to do instead. > Nine: bottom straight or curled? Curled, see 6 and 4. > Take for instance 6. The lower down the curve the loop closes, > the more "feminine" it looks. Thus, the question is, do you > close it south/southeast, or west? I don't follow the question. When I write a 6, I start at the top, roughly at the NE corner of the character space, and curve into a fairly tight circle (feminine?) at the bottom. Writing a 9 is done the same way, but starting at the bottom. I deliberately chose to write 9's that way because my former stright-backed 9's were easily confused with 4's. > Talking about the "horizontal" stroke of 2 begs the question. > A lot of people have it going diagonally down. Looking at 2's that I wrote before I read the query, the horizontal part is horizontal. > The third important question should be about 5 and 3--do you > have straight-line angles in the top half or is everything > curvy and cuddly? As a child, I admired the 3's that appeared on old-fashioned wall clocks, with a 45 degree angle/point in the upper right, but my 3's have pretty much always been curvilinear. The way I do a 5: I start in the NW corner and draw southward into a fishhook, or most of a capital S; then I lift my pen, move it back to the NW corner, and draw in the horizontal top bar. Thus, the only angle is the one between the top bar and the fishhook. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 17:44:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57MiPv9022333 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:44:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:44:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAC071@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:44:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2735639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:44:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57MiN4h023670 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:44:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so16531nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr762652nzd; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:44:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aW+OtyzKk9gfsUad41SXeniAOktH7+ChYMzl+8gJchV0jiWdTjDmi7HsGdXopjpGLp6j/nm84pqaWJYISOIT9wCuErm9j8+B8T08W2kaH5Cqovw7eabf7epqblfVncFAx5fcmJP9L6ZQ3g5ujMCdE1KpwT4Yd2hhfly/b8QjqPU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506071544da812c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:44:23 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: R. I. P. In-Reply-To: <000801c56bac$5bc4ac90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c56bac$5bc4ac90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57MiO4h023671 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Another death for uterine cancer. On 6/7/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Anne Bancroft. 73. > > Poor Mel. > > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 18:48:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j57Nmdv9029082 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:48:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:48:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAC2C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:38:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2740183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:38:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j57Ncc5W029519 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:38:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so16492nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.178.6 with SMTP id a6mr1831130nzf; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:38:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ChsEuFOEO1RrXw2WqhOZ5b1IJJYTl59J+r1qVHYih68lixTiNGvdXykDJrVF5KYsZwe10DbX1zCKt7HERD97Imbm8HFmewPTbUSyWFWF0+GFJoRyYyPmFmfLfCtbMVdnThAjcUqjCaO8Dsoj9oavfwRzxWDL6nvAyzaIniSCB3M= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:38:38 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: R. I. P. In-Reply-To: <000801c56bac$5bc4ac90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c56bac$5bc4ac90$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j57Ncc5W029520 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Poor Mel. Sometimes it's not so good to be the king. Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to depress me. ...aren't you? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 19:21:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j580L3v9032308 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:21:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:21:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAC50D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:21:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2744491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:21:03 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j580L2jG002482 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:21:02 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005060800210201100g7dr9e>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 00:21:02 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: writing numbers Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:20:54 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > One: one line only or hooked at the top? Usually only one line, unless I'm writing my address, in which case I make a full 1 to differentiate it from an I. > Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a > loop? Usually no loop, but I was taught to make one. > Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? Usually a point. > Four: open or closed? Open. > Six: upside down 9 or not? Yes. > Seven: crossed? Usually. > Eight: infinity or snowman? Infinity. > Nine: bottom straight or curled? Straight. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 19:28:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j580SYv9000162 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:28:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:28:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAC519@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:28:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2745174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:28:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j580SXvq003221 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:28:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so9884nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.75 with SMTP id u75mr163024nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:21:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z44zus/dhUg4nFezjeRWs+7h/0mU7ww1c1EQGRpDr46987YxrlSPpnZXB4QJiKktA3dHjc12OWO9nL3hZeNyhHQvhJ/VYRvgdeTRvFVdZFj+ej/6CqjymXB+4YURP7EPDo+xjNRLH+0IGdLWScHWQCVnJblIokDvJtjXTiu6E+M= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:21:52 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries In-Reply-To: <42A5836E.9070502@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A50523.7070307@maynor.net> <567509735.20050606202915@gailndan.com> <42A5836E.9070502@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j580SYvq003222 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Meanwhile, do flash cards dislike heat? I've started keeping a couple > of spare ones in an envelope in my car, which means they can get very > hot. Does that matter? I'd avoid doing that if you have room in your purse for them. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 20:16:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j581Gbv9005419 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:16:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:16:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00670851@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:16:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2749250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:16:37 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j581GWWT008972 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:16:32 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAC716@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:16:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200506080116.j581GWWT008972@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:16:32 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: R. I. P. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:44:23 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >Another death for uterine cancer. > >On 6/7/05, Doris Markland wrote: >> Anne Bancroft. 73. >> >> Poor Mel. >> >> >> - D. M. >> Oh, no. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 20:27:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j581RPv9006446 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:27:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:27:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAC791@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:27:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2749623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:27:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j581ROuB009985 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:27:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so123450nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.80 with SMTP id u80mr1645240nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:40:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=d7G4dDNo7BmVimFC3ASxbhTaroj2w4u0kZyPzcTUcayapUiho5Vv0kmogdyHt+xxReQqGIRO5RcUrJ3wv8hgW5rfy9m/nIyNbfyCvfNgxGSkI86fNtUlGdz7i0Ttx7MMeznj9GTje5jXNqtKiw3U3L76/ONDC5xd16v5q55BEXg= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:40:43 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j581ROuB009987 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Ah. I thought we determined that I'm not neurotypical. Indeed. So, how rich is your vocabulary for individual colors? Can it keep up with the shades that you can distinguish? Or do you feel you have the same level of discernment as neurotypicals might? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 20:46:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j581kdv9008557 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:46:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:46:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAC7E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:46:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2750522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:46:38 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j581kcsP011865 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:46:38 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.108.81]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608014638.WNBV13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:46:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.108.81]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608014637.WMHY1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:46:37 -0400 Message-ID: <42A64DF8.60802@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:46:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Go, Pistons! References: <8ddfc8a70506070534631ab155@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506070534631ab155@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Just saying.... > > Who/what are Pistons? I'm back from a busy day in Starkville -- wish I'd taken Spencer and planned on spending the night. That way I could be at Dan Camp's campaign headquarters right now awaiting the results of the mayoral election -- or at the courthouse watching the vote-counting. Dan's campaign managers promised that they'd call me tonight as soon as the results are in, but I bet they forget. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 20:46:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j581kjv9008578 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:46:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:46:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAC7E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:46:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2750542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:46:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j581kijZ011881 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:46:44 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so93979nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.121.17 with SMTP id t17mr1630325nzc; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:46:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YHN3dDBg0hiNLjRTmgxnYuOsHt0GZDwJea6nXnWN9+Mim6cN1hTpLn4i6ykiu8+IN+lz+f4W8e5Rknf5mhQ/wqFHQ446ySacJHKd127YpyV2kZwg8uQBglA2VLcrx7Z5P4ZOkYMWTKG7PPOKzt1aO5XBJkj0HpUCiC0BiUtuO70= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:46:44 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j581kijZ011882 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > On 6/7/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Ah. I thought we determined that I'm not neurotypical. > > Indeed. So, how rich is your vocabulary for individual colors? Can > it keep up with the shades that you can distinguish? Or do you feel > you have the same level of discernment as neurotypicals might? My vocabulary for individual colors is rich--you forget I'm a Fiber Freak. I spend a fair amount of time describing colors. And, I know Japanese, which distinguishes 3D color from flat color. I have no idea what discernment of color levels neurotypicals have--and whose to say who is neurotypical anyway? My little bro is 40, and he just found out that he's color blind. Was he neurotypical until the day he found out he wasn't? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 20:54:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j581sVv9009164 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:54:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:54:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAC807@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:54:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2750801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:54:30 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j581sUrH012556 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:54:30 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.108.81]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608015430.WYJZ13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:54:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.108.81]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608015430.WQDT1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:54:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42A64FD0.3070104@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:54:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: from Knoxville References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I got back last night - will be here (probably) until Sunday, then I will >be gone a month. > > Where are you going? >Natalie wrote: "But -a is not a plural marker in English. Why not >anglicize?" > >If you do, what is the new plural? Datas? I don't like that. > > Why do you need a plural? It would be like "information." I don't think we talk often about informations. There might be very occasional needs for slicing data into a datum, but we could handle it in the same way we handle things like "a piece of information." >data=plural speaker/wroter > > I think I mentioned here before a boring project I started not long after the Methods (International Congress on Methods in Dialectology) meeting in Bangor in '87: looking at all of the "data" usage in the published papers and counting how many used singular and how many plural. I abandoned the project when I realized that I was finding nothing particularly interesting. Iirc, "data is" had a slight lead on "data are" (and "data" was a frequently used word because of the nature of the conference). Some people used it both ways, in some cases even within the same sentence -- a good sign of language change in action, imho. I saw no national or age divisions in the usage. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 21:17:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j582Hdv9012075 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:17:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:17:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAC7D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:57:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2750888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:57:39 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j581vcoG012841 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:57:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22219634 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:05:38 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:58:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:57:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <776887249.20050607195738@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Go, Pistons! In-Reply-To: <42A64DF8.60802@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a70506070534631ab155@mail.gmail.com> <42A64DF8.60802@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 222, in=91403, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/7/2005, 7:46 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> NM> Who/what are Pistons? They are the cylindrical pieces of metal that go up and down in the cylinders of your car....but I'll save the whole description of an internal combustion engine. Or..... They're the pro basketball team from Detroit that won their playoffs last night against the Miami Heat. They'll next play San Antonio for the championship. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 21:19:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j582JGv9012238 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:19:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:19:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FACF36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:19:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2761650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:07:09 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58278A9013882 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:07:08 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.108.81]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608020708.XQLW13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:07:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.108.81]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608020708.BQRZ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:07:08 -0400 Message-ID: <42A652C6.9020400@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:07:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050607134252.01bf83d8@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607134252.01bf83d8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> I thought this was a younger, Adam-aged word. But last night I heard >> an old Maine lobsterman say it. Is this word pandemic now? > > It is a common adjective in Maine---at least along the coast and in > the Bay > Area. I'm getting confused. Is "wicked" as an adjective not common everywhere? It's its adverbial use that I think of as youthful, though I don't associate it with Adam -- I associate it more with Heather. And I sometimes use it adverbially, at least here on Words-L. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 21:20:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j582KWv9012408 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:20:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:20:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FACF6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:20:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2762020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:09:01 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58291WY013994 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:09:01 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5828xvP016468 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:08:59 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5828lA0013000 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:08:48 -0400 Message-ID: <015201c56bcf$0396e470$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a70506070534631ab155@mail.gmail.com> <42A64DF8.60802@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Go, Pistons! Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:08:49 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU San Antonio is gonna KICK THEIR COLLECTIVE ARSES! ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Tuesday, 07 June, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: Re: Go, Pistons! >A Friend of Andy wrote: > >>Just saying.... >> >> > Who/what are Pistons? > > I'm back from a busy day in Starkville -- wish I'd taken Spencer and > planned on spending the night. That way I could be at Dan Camp's > campaign headquarters right now awaiting the results of the mayoral > election -- or at the courthouse watching the vote-counting. Dan's > campaign managers promised that they'd call me tonight as soon as the > results are in, but I bet they forget. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 21:31:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j582Vrv9013679 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:31:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:31:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067104E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:21:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2762711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:49 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j582BnYP014259 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:49 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.108.81]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608021149.XXPH13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.108.81]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608021148.BTJX11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:48 -0400 Message-ID: <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:11:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up >>with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made >>any sense to me. >> >> > >SMS texting slang? I use -y abbreviations in Runescape, which is >mainly played by kids, and it's common. Addy is adamantine (weapons >material), Lumby is Lumbridge (city), Fally is Falador (city)... > > And there's Rummy for Rumsfeld. Although I don't use "addy" myself, it doesn't strike me as all that odd, given the other -y things floating around. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 21:32:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j582WDv9013699 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:32:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:32:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAD05C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:22:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2763321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:21:07 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j582L70t015118 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:21:07 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.108.81]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608022107.YKWI13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:21:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.108.81]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608022106.BXMC11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:21:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42A6560C.8000801@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:21:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050606230042.01bd82c0@pop.gwi.net> <42A5853B.4030705@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >Media is a bit different, because of its use to describe newspapers, >TV, and so on, for which there is no reasonable singular "medium". > > To me TV is a medium, newspapers are a different medium, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 21:32:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j582WDv9013701 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:32:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:32:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAD030@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:23:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2763544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:23:44 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j582Nif2015558 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:23:44 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.108.81]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608022344.YOZX13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:23:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.108.81]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608022343.BYQA11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:23:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42A656AA.8010706@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:23:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries References: <42A50523.7070307@maynor.net> <567509735.20050606202915@gailndan.com> <42A5836E.9070502@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>Meanwhile, do flash cards dislike heat? I've started keeping a couple >>of spare ones in an envelope in my car, which means they can get very >>hot. Does that matter? >> >> >I'd avoid doing that if you have room in your purse for them. > > Thanks! I think I will cease and desist from leaving them in the car. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 21:32:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j582WDv9013695 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:32:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:32:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAD049@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:22:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2762939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:13:35 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j582DYKf014403 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:13:34 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.108.81]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608021334.YAEB13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:13:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.108.81]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608021334.BUGN11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:13:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42A65448.2030601@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:13:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050607141047.01c03eb8@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705060711151c29b8dc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>Was F. Scott Fitzgerald a New Englander? >> >> >Wikipedia's back up, and it doesn't think so. Minneapolis, Paris, >Hollywood, but not New England, not for any notable period. > > I think he spent some time in New England, though it was perhaps not a -- something like a summer or two, iirc. (I'm not an AmLit person.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 21:32:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j582WDv9013700 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:32:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:32:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAD042@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:24:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2763682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:24:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j582Og8h015646 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:24:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so23982nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.8.10 with SMTP id 10mr1767190nzh; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:24:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jMhqlrkYXTZCVPQLWf2VVzXKaNxSctRUAhTla0RvVDn3xCuM2kWWYiamf/D1obF5FX3SRYkxRgw7t4EiIhh3Pt4LNdRNF9HJKvK0kQakNGdGjiOBDablxLc70240cIF1sNq5N7Cp1pyG6Yf1k0LNvTW74qpNs6EJblAliuwj8jY= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:24:42 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j582Og8h015647 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My vocabulary for individual colors is rich--you forget I'm a Fiber > Freak. I spend a fair amount of time describing colors. And, I know > Japanese, which distinguishes 3D color from flat color. Eh? I tried googling about this and didn't get anything useful. Can you explain a bit of the Japanese color distinction? > I have no idea what discernment of color levels neurotypicals > have--and whose to say who is neurotypical anyway? My little bro is > 40, and he just found out that he's color blind. Was he neurotypical > until the day he found out he wasn't? Very good point... Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 21:54:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j582s1v9015998 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:54:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:54:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAD248@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:54:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2764601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:54:00 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j582i0oe017443 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:44:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 47775 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 02:43:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:43:59 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608024359.GA47131@words-l.org> References: <200506071916.j57JGAjG022960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20050607193931.GB88138@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060712506024a8fd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060712506024a8fd@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:50:48PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/7/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > The third important question should be about 5 and 3--do you > > have straight-line angles in the top half or is everything > > curvy and cuddly? > > You are such a homophobe! By belief, not ethnically. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 21:55:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j582tov9016086 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:55:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:55:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAD245@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:55:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2764683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:55:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j582jkJV017603 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:45:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 49333 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 02:45:45 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:45:45 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked Message-ID: <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:18:06PM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > The question was about how common the "word" is, so please > > let's get with the program and go round and round with the > > "word" and ceaselessly talk at cross purposes and have a > > great time ... > > Agreed. So, is that word used by old people too? I thought it was limited to the younger set. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:12:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583Bev9017869 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:12:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAD34E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:01:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2768866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:01:40 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5831dse019975 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:01:39 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 67747926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:01:39 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050607200214.02a5d0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:02:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:45 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote: >On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:18:06PM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > The question was about how common the "word" is, so please > > > let's get with the program and go round and round with the > > > "word" and ceaselessly talk at cross purposes and have a > > > great time ... > > > > Agreed. > >So, is that word used by old people too? I thought it was >limited to the younger set. Agreed or wicked? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:12:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583Bev9017873 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:12:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAD44B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:09:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2767539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:09:53 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j582xoc6019277 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 56188 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 02:59:50 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:59:50 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608025950.GD47131@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 07:40:43PM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > On 6/7/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Ah. I thought we determined that I'm not neurotypical. > > Indeed. So, how rich is your vocabulary for individual colors? Can > it keep up with the shades that you can distinguish? Or do you feel > you have the same level of discernment as neurotypicals might? What's so special about having words? Can't anyone just make up a bloody word? Do you mean something like: can you RECALL the shades you can distinguish? Or do you have to have A word? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:12:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583Bev9017870 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:12:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAD465@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:06:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2766860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:06:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j582umjT018865 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:56:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 54324 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 02:56:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:56:47 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608025647.GC47131@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:58:13PM -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > >Take for instance 6. The lower down the curve the loop closes, > >the more "feminine" it looks. Thus, the question is, do you > >close it south/southeast, or west? > > I don't follow the question. When I write a 6, I start at the top, > roughly at the NE corner of the character space, and curve into a > fairly tight circle (feminine?) at the bottom. Yes, feminine. It is the handwriting equivalent of "throwing like a girl". > Writing a 9 is done the same way, > but starting at the bottom. I deliberately chose to write 9's that way > because my former stright-backed 9's were easily confused with 4's. Ah, one of the weirdo-typicals. > >Talking about the "horizontal" stroke of 2 begs the question. > >A lot of people have it going diagonally down. > > Looking at 2's that I wrote before I read the query, the horizontal part > is horizontal. Good. The worst is the one which goes convexly down, looking like a 3 that gave up at the last moment. That's like putting hearts on your "i"s. > >The third important question should be about 5 and 3--do you > >have straight-line angles in the top half or is everything > >curvy and cuddly? > > As a child, I admired the 3's that appeared on old-fashioned wall clocks, > with a 45 degree angle/point in the upper right, but my 3's have pretty > much always been curvilinear. > > The way I do a 5: I start in the NW corner and draw southward into a > fishhook, or most of a capital S; then I lift my pen, move it back to the > NW corner, and draw in the horizontal top bar. Thus, the only angle is > the one between the top bar and the fishhook. Indians do that ... odious ... especially when the top bar ends up floating miles away ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:12:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583Bev9017872 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:12:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAD4A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:11:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2771584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:11:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j583B4rV021437 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:11:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so129026nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr887813nzd; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:11:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cAsoLXpRgUrRCzU7wGH/DLXGTPi9YE2Z/uShjKKBu0Sjvhbl3VNEDR/Hw7kP5CIT9ZrmDEiFEMnmMZZ0zu+r5GNmLHkGNNDUi7/3tcUlGxwXcqG17gywlZgGTtMYyJDOOFIIvB+o3+hFuEBOCFIMk7nGLbhN3KhGwZlycia41C8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060720115fa178d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j583B4rV021438 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yeah, but you're the one who writes Bradykins for Braddykins. On 6/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > >>Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up > >>with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made > >>any sense to me. > >> > >> > > > >SMS texting slang? I use -y abbreviations in Runescape, which is > >mainly played by kids, and it's common. Addy is adamantine (weapons > >material), Lumby is Lumbridge (city), Fally is Falador (city)... > > > > > And there's Rummy for Rumsfeld. Although I don't use "addy" myself, it > doesn't strike me as all that odd, given the other -y things floating > around. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:12:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583Bev9017871 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:12:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAD48B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:10:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2771545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:10:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j583ACXS021329 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:10:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so174713nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.8 with SMTP id q8mr1666167nzq; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:10:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Um2M3FMWVJ7F2cTgeL0kGjUmneb5UM5dtp5hLvEIeVXq4y03205PutvJkHYbG5NGG8H7oZldeQq6Ho5ZbTIuaXviP3uRr4LOTXkbUrUTcoBeKKOimlxpQQxkjVr6lrrLDozJwg67xYrXWmtzxLeioMEeq47ie3qPK6sXzqjZMcU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:10:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j583ADXS021330 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > My vocabulary for individual colors is rich--you forget I'm a Fiber > > Freak. I spend a fair amount of time describing colors. And, I know > > Japanese, which distinguishes 3D color from flat color. > > Eh? I tried googling about this and didn't get anything useful. Can > you explain a bit of the Japanese color distinction? Um, I forgot to mention that traditionally they have no word to distinguish blue from green, and traffic lights are traditionally called "blue lights" even though they are bright green. So, they distinguish the blue of an apple or a traffic light, from the blue of an ocean or a forest. They sound the same, but can be spelled differently to build in this distinction of depth. > > I have no idea what discernment of color levels neurotypicals > > have--and whose to say who is neurotypical anyway? My little bro is > > 40, and he just found out that he's color blind. Was he neurotypical > > until the day he found out he wasn't? > > Very good point... Nice save.) He's kind of freaked out about it. Nanook found another roach, chased it into my office, but it flew back into the living room. He's good for another hour, but I'm going to bed. Karen Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:13:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583DHv9017996 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:13:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:13:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAD483@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:13:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2771930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:13:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j583DGwB021817 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:13:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so129912nzo for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.59 with SMTP id w59mr1775020nzg; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:13:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DzZ7wiVaTdqZHpOODPUijuE7DW//sc8V2E6j3cSMjOP4DP625fehSEPkxCchkxft139LlLL2lTeJd61QpB3U6U3RFYb2i/TOt2k/D/ILTXvv7mHo6tXrCD0VW0sRqLYsnPiO2xpEKOT56vsdTP8pmbSRyazjElvwvhuQofh9GjM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506072013b3a9496@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:13:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked In-Reply-To: <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j583DGwB021818 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:18:06PM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > The question was about how common the "word" is, so please > > > let's get with the program and go round and round with the > > > "word" and ceaselessly talk at cross purposes and have a > > > great time ... > > > > Agreed. > > So, is that word used by old people too? I thought it was > limited to the younger set. Thank you, my whore. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:13:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583Dmv9018066 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:13:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:13:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAD4C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:13:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2770517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:13:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5833mcC020561 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:03:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 57405 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 03:03:48 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:03:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Go, Pistons! Message-ID: <20050608030348.GE47131@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70506070534631ab155@mail.gmail.com> <42A64DF8.60802@maynor.net> <015201c56bcf$0396e470$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <015201c56bcf$0396e470$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:08:49PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > San Antonio is gonna KICK THEIR COLLECTIVE ARSES! > > ;-) Is arse singular here, or a mass noun? Anyway, nice coinage. Where'd you get it from? Ozword? I thought it would be more prevalent among the texting set. You seem a bit older. Can your vocabulary keep up with all the arses you can distinguish? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:18:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583IEv9018531 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:18:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:18:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAD4ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:18:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2771402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:18:13 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5838Cpf021188 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:08:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 59749 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 03:08:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:08:12 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked Message-ID: <20050608030812.GA58870@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050607200214.02a5d0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050607200214.02a5d0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 08:02:46PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 07:45 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:18:06PM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > >> > The question was about how common the "word" is, so please > >> > let's get with the program and go round and round with the > >> > "word" and ceaselessly talk at cross purposes and have a > >> > great time ... > >> > >> Agreed. > > > >So, is that word used by old people too? I thought it was > >limited to the younger set. > > Agreed or wicked? I don't have an OED at hand, but I believe both have attested uses predating F Scott Fitzgerald. This is not to deny that at some point they were new to Fitzgerald too. He obviously wasn't born with the knowledge. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:24:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583OPv9019227 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:24:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:24:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067142F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:05:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2771023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:05:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5834xO5020810 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:05:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so79350nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.4 with SMTP id a4mr1761272nzd; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:04:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=C/jJxZ1jbv3EqCRLJcizUaQiD7xcQ1ecLkh1GgSvLAUzYbgE3Rq6GCziw1qA3nWFbVpVhvTmKQ+WfKOPM/M5PVK0+xjQj51PrBD5rPcGnbZk6cZN8vau9spYqbjOklea2WiQs4JHPEiUKipP887fAv0CuFriMXXjsZT5VHfceQ4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607200468bdf55@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:04:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: My Cup Runneth Over Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58350O5020811 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One of my friends is going peach-picking in Fredericksburg and has promised to bring me some souvenirs back! Woohoo! Texas peaches rock! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:24:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583OPv9019224 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:24:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:24:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067132B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:04:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2770278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:03:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5833WXs020484 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:03:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so172064nzp for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.16 with SMTP id u16mr1788822nzu; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:03:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iB4qaBqaEHPxD+DwRUss3D83xOFEnPGZB8THCH+39ibkRZmuDqsDXKP1G2IH3kKsb42LXJLKFoJe8H9z24aGrSYZxV7YxZ1IJKXSeieCQTTQad7TBMIE5KjAVuyfNaD21ABS0HTle8uVtGY0tyv+D3zYqF6RjNjkEYaiEg6TMMM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050607200376be8215@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:03:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Go, Pistons! In-Reply-To: <015201c56bcf$0396e470$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506070534631ab155@mail.gmail.com> <42A64DF8.60802@maynor.net> <015201c56bcf$0396e470$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5833WXs020485 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Shows what you know. On 6/7/05, Alan Wild wrote: > San Antonio is gonna KICK THEIR COLLECTIVE ARSES! > > ;-) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Natalie Maynor" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, 07 June, 2005 9:46 PM > Subject: Re: Go, Pistons! > > > >A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > >>Just saying.... > >> > >> > > Who/what are Pistons? > > > > I'm back from a busy day in Starkville -- wish I'd taken Spencer and > > planned on spending the night. That way I could be at Dan Camp's > > campaign headquarters right now awaiting the results of the mayoral > > election -- or at the courthouse watching the vote-counting. Dan's > > campaign managers promised that they'd call me tonight as soon as the > > results are in, but I bet they forget. > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:24:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583OPv9019228 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:24:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:24:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006712D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:15:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2771041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:15:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j583509x020817 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:05:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 58624 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 03:04:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:04:59 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked Message-ID: <20050608030459.GF47131@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050607134252.01bf83d8@pop.gwi.net> <42A652C6.9020400@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A652C6.9020400@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:07:02PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > >>I thought this was a younger, Adam-aged word. But last night I heard > >>an old Maine lobsterman say it. Is this word pandemic now? > > > >It is a common adjective in Maine---at least along the coast and in > >the Bay Area. > > I'm getting confused. Is "wicked" as an adjective not common > everywhere? There you go! It's a very old word. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 7 22:38:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j583cHv9020677 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:38:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:38:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAD543@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:28:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2772818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:28:17 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j583SGCR023165 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:28:16 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.220.112]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608032816.WIWN16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:28:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.220.112]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608032816.KOJK4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:28:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42A665CB.9030807@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:28:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: YaY! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just got a call from Starkville -- Dan won the mayoral race! Perhaps I shouldn't be yaying since this means his young son will be managing my house. But still I'm glad. I love it that the have prevailed -- that we made clear that the citizens have a right to speak and thus zapped those railroaders. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 00:53:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j585rUv9003397 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 00:53:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 00:53:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FADB87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 1:53:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2785210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 01:53:29 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j585rSmC005488 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 01:53:29 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FC7BE8C1 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> References: <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:52:33 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Actual word question Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 8:53 AM -0700 6/7/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up >with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made >any sense to me I'm pretty sure I picked it up from The Register (www.theregister.co.uk), which is one of my daily reads. There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on shortening + final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a dozen other "-o" words that I once jotted down in a place that I cannot find at the moment. Ken Miller Assistant Drone Johnson Institute for the Study of Harmless Drudgery From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 01:11:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j586BWv9005668 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 01:11:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:11:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FADBED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 2:01:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2786734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 02:01:30 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5861TZM007225 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 02:01:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C082BA49 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20050607142110.GB11045@words-l.org> References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:01:09 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:21 AM -0700 6/7/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:35:26PM -0700, Bookrat wrote: >> Tempting Tushar to call me a Fowler monkey for the nth time, I quote >> Kingsley Amis's view on crossed sevens, from _The King's English_: > >You have no clue what Fowler monkey means, do you. When you use a phrase, it means exactly whatever you want it to mean. I am simply glad that I was never in danger of being called a Fowler monkey, because it seems to me that that is a bad thing, whatever the impenetrable it is. Ken Miller Humpty Dumpty School of Rhetoric From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 01:45:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j586jKv9009237 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 01:45:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:45:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FADD7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 2:45:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2789275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 02:45:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j586j19M011341 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 02:45:03 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j586j079005693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:45:00 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j586j074005691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:45:00 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:45:00 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo Message-ID: <20050608064500.GA5647@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A5846B.5050207@maynor.net> <20050607173810.GA25307@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050607173810.GA25307@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = In India it was almost always an irritating affectation, = that's for sure ... yes, I know the "clarity" excuse. In my case it is not an excuse. If I don't remember the affectation then people fuck it up. And my house is number seven. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 01:47:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j586ljv9009484 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 01:47:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:47:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FADD8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 2:47:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2789396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 02:47:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j586lihM011628 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 02:47:44 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j586li5d005723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:47:44 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j586lhxx005721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:47:43 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:47:43 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050608064743.GB5647@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050607093647ce2a84@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607094272ad59e4@mail.gmail.com> <20050607165445.GA1297@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050607174212.GB25307@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050607174212.GB25307@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = > get over it. everything on the internet goes down sometimes, especially = > free stuff. = = "Especially" cannot modify when "sometimes" has ... it's a = meaningless combination. Sure it can. Are you the only one on the list who didn't get that I meant that while everything on the 'net goes down, the free stuff goes down more often? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 02:11:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j587BDv9011481 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 02:11:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 02:11:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00671C2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 3:11:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2790063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 03:11:13 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j587BCCa014499 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 03:11:12 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j587BBEb005848 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:11:12 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j587BBnw005846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:11:11 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:11:11 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608071111.GC5647@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:16:55PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: = Answer these questions: Sample: writing number in order, 1 up, 9 down (forgot 0), starting at 5 and going up through to 2, my desk number, my home number and my mobile number. = = One: one line only or hooked at the top? Consistently one line only = = Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a = loop? mixed. writing numbers in order, always a loop. writing my phone numbers (5 2's), two have loops, three don't = = Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? = point = Four: open or closed? = Open = Six: upside down 9 or not? = not = Seven: crossed? = writing numbers in order, yes, in my phone numbers not = Eight: infinity or snowman? = infinity = Nine: bottom straight or curled? = straight, but I know I do them curled sometimes. = Discussion will follow. = = = BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 03:12:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j588C8v9018244 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 03:12:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 03:12:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00671B32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 4:02:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2791650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 04:02:06 -0400 Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j587q6X8018731 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 03:52:06 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([80.195.2.181]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:52:45 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: References: <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <94BBD3C7-E7E5-4D96-AD5F-6A61A7BC6770@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roy Jaques Subject: Re: Actual word question Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:53:42 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2005 07:52:45.0645 (UTC) FILETIME=[0EA4EFD0:01C56BFF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Replace the 'British' below with 'Australian' and it is closer to reality. Now the fact that there are a lot of Aussies in London means that their slang is widely known outside Kangaroo Valley, is another matter. Neighbours on TV each day doesn't help. I wouldn't have thought of The Register as being a guide to English language usage. On the other hand I'm not an example either. I have never come across addy for example. For those who don't know it, The Register was once described by a US based PR company as the National Enquirer of the IT world. Only it is far more accurate, perhaps that's why PR departments don't like it much. This shortening of words is nothing compared with the crap thought up by the IT industry in California. That is something I don't have to put up with these days. I just seem to deal with the fall out from those marketing departments. That's enough from another whinging pom. Roy On 8 Jun 2005, at 06:52, Bookrat wrote: > At 8:53 AM -0700 6/7/2005, Dan Lester wrote: > >> Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up >> with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made >> any sense to me >> > > I'm pretty sure I picked it up from The Register > (www.theregister.co.uk), > which is one of my daily reads. > > There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on > shortening > + final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a > dozen other "-o" words that I once jotted down in a place that I > cannot > find at the moment. > > Ken Miller > Assistant Drone > Johnson Institute for the Study of Harmless Drudgery > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 03:21:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j588LNv9018952 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 03:21:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 03:21:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00671D15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 4:21:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2792326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 04:21:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j588LLoo022969 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 04:21:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so135038nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.19 with SMTP id u19mr1887775nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.4.11 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 01:21:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z4gTlIupXa5lFaLf0ZyGDOWvKXtJBPonR10veHhv5uSXsSoYlghpAPY7mQTgT2ntRFVczFhooePQ1rFw1pRawuyTQXyp9UEqG8du/zAMDEgVQ0jilioatPyhxtI3bvWQ8Jh64rzQsY2s+sh92pU20BDFOg/WIhArG6F8JuNrwac= Message-ID: <3c1d5b50050608012112d63685@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:21:21 +0200 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j588LLoo022970 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Answer these questions: > > One: one line only or hooked at the top? Hooked > > Two: what happens where the curved part meets the flat part is there a > loop? Loop > > Three: do the top and bottom meet at a point or a loop? Point > > Four: open or closed? Open > > Six: upside down 9 or not? Not > > Seven: crossed? Crossed > > Eight: infinity or snowman? Infinity (mostly) > > Nine: bottom straight or curled? Straight Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 06:43:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58BhBv9013983 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:43:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:43:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAE6C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 7:43:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2753881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:43:10 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58BhA86025799 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:43:10 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.241]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608114310.YGPG2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:43:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.241]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608114309.ZKNW8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:43:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42A6D9C8.7030708@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:43:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705060720115fa178d3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060720115fa178d3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Yeah, but you're the one who writes Bradykins for Braddykins. > > That ends in s, not y. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 07:16:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58CFsv9017734 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:15:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:16:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAE7E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 8:15:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2755070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:15:53 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58C5qQO028071 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:05:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 8658 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 12:05:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:05:51 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607120255ed401d@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:10:12PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > My vocabulary for individual colors is rich--you forget I'm a Fiber > > > Freak. I spend a fair amount of time describing colors. And, I know > > > Japanese, which distinguishes 3D color from flat color. > > > > Eh? I tried googling about this and didn't get anything useful. Can > > you explain a bit of the Japanese color distinction? > > Um, I forgot to mention that traditionally they have no word to > distinguish blue from green, and traffic lights are traditionally > called "blue lights" even though they are bright green. So, they > distinguish the blue of an apple or a traffic light, from the blue of > an ocean or a forest. They sound the same, but can be spelled > differently to build in this distinction of depth. I am sure that his google efforts gave him a large number of "explanations" like the above. He probably wants his question answered, though. What does 3D color mean and how does it differ from "flat" color? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 07:18:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58CIRv9017924 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:18:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:18:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAE7E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 8:18:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2755289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:18:27 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58C8PUd028361 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:08:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 9335 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 12:08:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:08:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Boo Message-ID: <20050608120825.GB5238@words-l.org> References: <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> <42A224AE.3080202@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 11:01:09PM -0700, Bookrat wrote: > At 7:21 AM -0700 6/7/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:35:26PM -0700, Bookrat wrote: > >> Tempting Tushar to call me a Fowler monkey for the nth time, I quote > >> Kingsley Amis's view on crossed sevens, from _The King's English_: > > > >You have no clue what Fowler monkey means, do you. > > When you use a phrase, it means exactly whatever you want it to mean. Heh ... brilliant allusion. Shakespeare? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 07:21:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58CL7v9018185 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:21:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:21:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAE7F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 8:21:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2755381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:21:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58CB7Q5028628 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:11:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 11076 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 12:11:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:11:05 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050608121105.GC5238@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607093647ce2a84@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607094272ad59e4@mail.gmail.com> <20050607165445.GA1297@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050607174212.GB25307@words-l.org> <20050608064743.GB5647@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050608064743.GB5647@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:47:43AM +0200, steph wrote: > = > > = > get over it. everything on the internet goes down sometimes, especially > = > free stuff. > = > = "Especially" cannot modify when "sometimes" has ... it's a > = meaningless combination. > > Sure it can. Are you the only one on the list who didn't get that I > meant that while everything on the 'net goes down, the free stuff goes > down more often? Perhaps I was; which only makes it more likely that I am right! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 07:45:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Cj1v9021058 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:45:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:45:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAE8A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 8:45:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2757283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:45:00 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58Cixa3032359 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:44:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62268978A7 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:44:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18048-06 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:44:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB3E986D3 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:44:56 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 15:44:15 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.508 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > and Dan and Ben wrote: > >>> Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up >>> with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made >>> any sense to me. >>> >>> >> >> SMS texting slang? I use -y abbreviations in Runescape, which is >> mainly played by kids, and it's common. Addy is adamantine (weapons >> material), Lumby is Lumbridge (city), Fally is Falador (city)... >> >> > And there's Rummy for Rumsfeld. Although I don't use "addy" myself, it > doesn't strike me as all that odd, given the other -y things floating > around. It's easy to understand the convenience of -y shortenings for quick and easy-lazy and slangish speech, however, the first association I had when reading "addy" was that it soon might lead to using "daddress" (<"daddy") if a person would like to change his or her text more pun-like, or otherwise get more fun from composing one's texts while using more pompous-looking style. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:15:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58DEwv9025146 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:14:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:15:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00672646@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 9:14:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2759238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:14:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58DEuDc003915 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:14:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so418334nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.16 with SMTP id u16mr2065282nzu; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:14:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Xa89ijb62nno561LsEwQappKfzW6qiHNxyUPemC0/eMMHNBmQhPi9cLw359YyceashF2GDwzaCmcNBlWK2+3YrTA4gA+0vMK+G4Qrnlo53EQRQS5kciqw37ixpJ94zij9J0md6l7n9VKQIzWvXEnq868i69IFFDSFgKpe8S6fa4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060806144efb3d50@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:14:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Evelyn In-Reply-To: <20050608131219.72604.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050607203033.0461D5D50@pobox.upenn.edu> <20050608131219.72604.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58DEvDc003916 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What does this mean? On 6/8/05, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > > > Is she gone ? > > Yes. > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:26:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58DQKv9026704 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:26:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:26:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00672608@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 9:26:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2760628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:26:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58DQJv4006266 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:26:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so81079nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.20 with SMTP id u20mr2045487nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:26:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JHlH6NYIms3CkpaOI9dYxVo3oAWpFrvKWrIc7OK3Lou79SshxWVTsM05+ndRRYSEj0ZZK/EoJKxVfQx0+Kjus92rE2sKTELbGrgZokiRsngInAs3+oRb+bIoRR8W+hwo+QJEPLcN15svny8GVH7PBGzG04Eksm0rKkz1A4cRpUU= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:26:19 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58DQKv4006268 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > So you don't understand the difference in color quality between an > ocean and a traffic light? I know the ocean's color (as I perceive it) changes depending on what's on the bottom and what angle I'm at. Is that what you mean? When you said flat and 3D, I was thinking that one might use a color term for a piece of paper and a different color term when it's folded up into a swan. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:27:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58DRGv9026748 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:27:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:27:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAE937@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 9:12:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2758963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:12:20 -0400 Received: from web60715.mail.yahoo.com (web60715.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.218]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58DCKbN003416 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:12:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 72611 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2005 13:12:19 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60715.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:12:19 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZZHHbFPQGxQq/nllXNXZQRzs1U5QRBfcOASr8FE66hKwCzuo6z6RSCA9XDbHAvkqiTQvmbG+I+XMr1cXoUGRRYz1b6Sg05BjBG4AvvjjUb1ff3mrY4ZW1achRjvPlbRRgb7Cz0pS550LhdM33nuW3fJjxhsJm2+O1bOb2hq81zA= ; Message-ID: <20050608131219.72604.qmail@web60715.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Evelyn To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20050607203033.0461D5D50@pobox.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > Is she gone ? Yes. __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:27:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58DRGv9026743 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:27:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:27:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAE8F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 9:02:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2758455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:02:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58D2pwB002313 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:02:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so68624nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.220.9 with SMTP id s9mr2206659nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:02:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TWiHqhfC8fr37Csgm3BenqEqxZdBYpU0xjtGil2ckrqgotG/h9UGbSBn/fUNCq1ndQZe3c0p29Dat36NR4Adr5bMSs2SUNmv2G8Pi861qe7HXiuUS1Pps1HoBQWLk/mmkQihsX/qyvzIKh6bZ6CpBbG2RLQ9EnIrmvwDR8n3Exo= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:02:50 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58D2pwB002316 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on shortening > + final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a > dozen other "-o" words that I once jotted down in a place that I cannot > find at the moment. I've heard of this happening in France; perhaps it's related. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:27:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58DRGv9026745 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:27:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:27:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAE96D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 9:11:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2758928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:11:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58DBnlc003347 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:11:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so73255nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.220.9 with SMTP id s9mr2212309nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:11:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f6bD79uBkJ4N4wiaBAeXc0sChMD93pQv45xEfykFJSdqZEsTX9mJrA1IBkWbsUHKg3GeXrQ22j1rOig+/G/eHI0jlk6BPyCcdiqlvFPEj/4D34wDAnJRnQM+sLC1S12ASSeZp8A9HJs6+YqoLqcMOMJm99/F3GD0PGv4aOMhHYg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:11:48 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58DBnlc003348 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I am sure that his google efforts gave him a large number of > "explanations" like the above. He probably wants his question > answered, though. What does 3D color mean and how does it > differ from "flat" color? You're the man now, dog! Thanks for representing. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:27:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58DRGv9026747 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:27:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:27:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAE875@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 8:47:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2757391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:47:15 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58ClExX032592 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:47:15 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-85.gwi.net [216.195.163.85]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j58Cl6XX028493; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:47:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050608080155.01bd9640@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:06:20 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: References: <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:52 AM 6/8/2005, Bookrat wrote: >There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on shortening >+ final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a >dozen other "-o" words ... ...several of which are in the dictionary, e.g., aggro for aggravation, lino for (linoleum?), duro for (durable?). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:27:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58DRGvA026748 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:27:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:27:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAE94D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 9:14:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2759173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:14:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58DEVaZ003823 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:14:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so381412nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.15 with SMTP id u15mr1377040nzu; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:14:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=arlPJDvRJbbgHNf9L/hoROP4yxhykFZ0Okkv4/PjKByX72zzzlmjtQb4C3M1TxgOCY8oWOqllGcrmbsJ3DjJ/NQaql3SjGiwJjX/erz+il9qkC1OrV2tqhE/NHUPj1QBMYEEc//xgjZhXglzJeB43viPl6N9BYOMnlQJxC+0EW4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506080614686879e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:14:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58DEVaZ003828 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on shortening > > + final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a > > dozen other "-o" words that I once jotted down in a place that I cannot > > find at the moment. > > I've heard of this happening in France; perhaps it's related. It's what language does. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:27:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58DRGvA026743 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:27:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:27:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAE966@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 9:16:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2759449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:16:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58DG9pK004312 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:16:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so418939nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.4 with SMTP id a4mr2038246nzd; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:16:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lIwrzezpr1h7eonStGSLyRrI132SKm4/HAXeXItTHQW9d23VQjHTDn5NMlvnaMpcyJdskbgD5MwxIGkzAWWroxW6pugrnbik4iKrGE1JRj9DUdXbW+cn/9tqrrDhNWlqeWupXmbo5qQmBfoqJvcQAVJ1We8rUy8Sx0m5KFGVWfg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:16:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58DG9pK004313 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > I am sure that his google efforts gave him a large number of > > "explanations" like the above. He probably wants his question > > answered, though. What does 3D color mean and how does it > > differ from "flat" color? > > You're the man now, dog! Thanks for representing. So you don't understand the difference in color quality between an ocean and a traffic light? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:29:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58DTDv9026973 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:29:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:29:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAEA24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 9:29:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2760961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:29:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58DT6mS006911 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:29:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so82441nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.33 with SMTP id u33mr2181264nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=c5HTP52kyy00e7rz4wcfWA0Kdvf8dZaNRNsIzvhKRoX0xsaXYz3k1LHYqvKrl5MPcMd2C4Yk4mrxR24xjBtvDf3HKet8mYreyeo6PgHKgQQJ3fQQrAm3/U7neYcc6o6thkB1/aFpnP9bFgv+Da+SQ1WV6YwpPvDuRL2rdRLjJsg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:29:05 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58DT7mS006918 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > When you said flat and 3D, I was thinking that one might use a color > term for a piece of paper and a different color term when it's folded > up into a swan. And I'm not just being flip. I seem to recall that Aymara has different verbs for carrying things depending on the physical form of what is being carried -- that carry-a-pail-of-water is not the same verb as carry-a-sack-of-grain or carry-a-bundle-of-sticks, though it is probably the same verb as carry-a-bowl-of-milk. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:53:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Dr1v9030864 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:53:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:53:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAEB0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 9:43:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2762460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:43:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58Dh1ti009950 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:43:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so326429wri for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr4756840wrd; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:43:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Au51po7ATwKXLxF5XXwbVfzJIpKq1ONn+lQmCALzj1yndhv9gelk0AydeiQZKuCJnq0Slf1fbZrNYzqkXKnya82kA8Gx9EMvURueKB++EH04P0fhWSuKAuFrEM6Yr9dDhDf8Mr8/Du9NAVHmNF5/b0cp/GNxah3LapFIqsfdVMM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:43:00 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j58Dr1v9030864 Here's another question: How many wordslers use the "our" form in words instead of just "or". I do it consistently. But the spell check in Eudora doesn't like it. I just typed endeavour in an email and was chastened by my spell check. I think I do this because of reading so many British mystery novels. Speaking of Eudora, the Inn where I work in the summer (I just started yesterday) upgraded to Verizon DSL from dial-up. It's nice. I can see that it is faster than our connection. But installing the DSL totally crashed their computer. They were never able to recover Eudora. They are convinced that Eudora doesn't work with their DSL. They have changed over to sucky Outlook. And they now use Mozilla Firefox instead of Internet Explorer. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 08:57:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Dvav9031417 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:57:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:57:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAEBBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 9:57:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2763871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:57:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58DvZMO013385 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:57:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so98962nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.76 with SMTP id u76mr2200088nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 06:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:57:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ciRUgHQFkPl76zdz9kFdld7pJ78R8+2AgxsMBRXNxCA0J5KS2wspMSpX5Go+2YK12pWMnjwbxATlhBxX19/ZplPZxYrjo7A84Q+qRQXxErGFWznoQH8PbYHHXuv9noVUtQzAQicRgqkk3cLu5mBGEs+zf0hgGpfS72vdrqvDunU= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:57:35 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: WAY Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58DvZMO013388 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Big, BIG spoilers can be found by googling the name of one of the photographers this month: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/jenshel/jenshel_large/p-jenshel_large01.htm Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:23:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58ENPv9000990 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:23:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:23:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAECBB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:23:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2766196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:23:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58ENOck018259 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:23:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so425235nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.5 with SMTP id l5mr1201224nzd; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:23:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rYqN4dEFNcHME6qZ8lDZMJjwwIM/vUeh34XdR7ISds+oyMg1rd8CLh52tdQtMXSO4DAJk0It/ieNMiee5dFWH14iMbiFJDuuDUm1EuauZKtLxbElJx6pmj/4qx/6Z0DyP6UHKgcTtYh2tpFcaJnmsBTOhvQn/ntEjx0QK49xtjE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060807235c555cfb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:23:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WAY In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58ENPck018264 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Big spoilers of what? On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > Big, BIG spoilers can be found by googling the name of one of the > photographers this month: > > http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/jenshel/jenshel_large/p-jenshel_large01.htm > > Ben > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:24:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58EOEv9001069 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:24:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:24:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAECC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:24:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2766314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:24:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58EOAMH018472 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:24:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so114429nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.220.9 with SMTP id s9mr2259650nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:24:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JcUJ5Yi2KdZK1OReCkchGWvmjvZhhMFZt4W6yGdynZgXZfdKJ8v0kq3/0zhctuKVF93v4T3tXHvxcdgAc5idIn2W62DebiF39l7CccPC5kSYPKbEwKoLgxgyQWg1aXzOFkROOaoU/53QJRt/DGu1qpyopXUrlHt2jmWgQ/bq9io= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:24:09 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WAY In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060807235c555cfb@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060807235c555cfb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58EOAMH018477 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Big spoilers of what? Of WYA in this month's Conde Nast Traveler contest. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:24:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58EOfv9001139 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:24:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:24:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAECD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:24:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2766402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:24:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58EOdB5018612 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:24:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so629nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.15 with SMTP id u15mr1419263nzu; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:24:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=j3T4QmJFPT1Y7Sw+5ZNu9y6VpFcPx3FYqsjI5lJ0XpmESeDgBRrtJC5ziAxJ5r/lX6X3WWBwpGQ5KxoT2jSAgfaT5tHYARYkO1YR4YVFU2y3MvzSTQBk/9uapT1EG7t6SIgnGGx22gw4C1RAyUKTx1SJ+bKvDMO1pmReeo82SSM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506080724683f89ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:24:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58EOfB5018618 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > So you don't understand the difference in color quality between an > > ocean and a traffic light? > > I know the ocean's color (as I perceive it) changes depending on > what's on the bottom and what angle I'm at. Is that what you mean? Not exactly. It's not the changeability, but the perception of unfathomable depths. > When you said flat and 3D, I was thinking that one might use a color > term for a piece of paper and a different color term when it's folded > up into a swan. No. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:30:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58ETxv9001680 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:30:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:30:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAECFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:29:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2766776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:29:59 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58ETwt4019325 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:29:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so430157nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.59 with SMTP id w59mr2090627nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:29:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DV8PFseCxhfVlkms8SJ8wM83eA+mpT2tju9PCmTFn1tqpGXl3LL2Q9EveGSF4L6Mb3TnO7otfjkkYQqU0pxtEjO7X/Zd9t1AtQ3VFnseF2A4+PcnmUok8gBAKzdSO4hyrl1H1Lsuh7cazF5siYZmx7V2TfJA8CqaIrmbYnCgJgI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060807295687c9b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:29:58 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58ETxt4019327 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, bonniemaev wrote: > I think I do this because of reading so many British mystery > novels. Speaking of mysteries, but not British ones, which I pretty much no longer read, I just finished the latest (which may be a few years old already) John Dunning: http://tinyurl.com/axjkj All about Richard Burton (the explorer). Very cool stuff--though Tushar will hate it, I'm sure. > They have changed over to sucky > Outlook. And they now use Mozilla Firefox instead of Internet Explorer. Why don't they use Mozilla's mailer? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:30:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58EUnv9001840 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:30:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:30:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAED18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:30:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2766825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:30:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58EUnjV019461 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:30:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so430755nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.73 with SMTP id t73mr2113531nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:30:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bkQI3WuHZH65Qo3UTd+RdTY1g4qLqf8m6RQg3RGbBCY9PyfaJpAJ1EcgvkZ3A6O36Rnvi1jq0likprxV+PxP0Oa49Fc2DDMKd3SzQ+aOrI38ZboHSzplweNiTm3Gt8vyYxozZHRW74lJqVe4mQvQiaX0OSjgRmVKp9UYuYiic5E= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060807304704d8a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:30:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58EUnjV019462 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > When you said flat and 3D, I was thinking that one might use a color > > term for a piece of paper and a different color term when it's folded > > up into a swan. > > And I'm not just being flip. I seem to recall that Aymara has > different verbs for carrying things depending on the physical form of > what is being carried -- that carry-a-pail-of-water is not the same > verb as carry-a-sack-of-grain or carry-a-bundle-of-sticks, though it > is probably the same verb as carry-a-bowl-of-milk. Ah. All I can say is, verbs and adjectives work differently. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:31:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58EVBv9001881 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:31:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:31:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAED22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:31:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2766884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:31:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58EVAeI019582 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:31:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so118483nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.220.8 with SMTP id s8mr2266998nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:31:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CD+JDlzOZxlSSwyluFO9mJoGZPP1xY22tLCKMfcPrxnmASNttYv6n+H8jy/fDjMCoYYolQ4cCkJAu12hv8cwgFYWZWoJja4IGoAPs0Q8bPu68opau82inygttQOhkcfbHXXlun33bPUrgG33q93zyocsmNssHN45J+Bd3Z6K6Eg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:31:10 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506080724683f89ee@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506080724683f89ee@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58EVAeI019583 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Not exactly. It's not the changeability, but the perception of > unfathomable depths. OK, let me try again to see if I understand now: one word for a piece of Jell-O on a plate, another for the Grand Canyon filled with the same flavor of Jell-O? (Where's Christo when you need him?) Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:34:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58EYBv9002192 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:34:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:34:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAED30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:34:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2767019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:34:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58EYAdh019961 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:34:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so433078nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.12 with SMTP id y12mr1991204nzb; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:34:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=bH/gxZiY/rV77Tnkym2NlnFVCja1CruWEVgmppdUxaNBcX/RIkN996SR4OSfcDniqwwRBONLkOUJWhRbnGIB7J8c0YD/SeaCdcsrWbT5bAPn13E7JiSekfh4gss4ReX+ykNu6ulJRhAZOhgdKCThQNZqXiyPweye4ZlGiARxazs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050608073463d19350@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:34:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Book Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58EYBdh019962 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.powells.com/review/2005_06_08 Truth stranger than fiction... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:35:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58EZNv9002284 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:35:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:35:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAED42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:35:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2767143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:35:23 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58EZMM1020194 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:35:23 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j58EZLYw008123 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:35:22 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j58EZLMs008121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:35:21 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:35:21 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608143521.GA7903@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:43:00AM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: = Here's another question: How many wordslers use the "our" form in words = instead of just "or". I do it consistently. But the spell check in Eudora = doesn't like it. I just typed endeavour in an email and was chastened by my = spell check. I think I do this because of reading so many British mystery = novels. I've caught myself using -ise instead of -ize, but I read that a lot. I do however balk at calling it the datacentre. Data Center. = Speaking of Eudora, the Inn where I work in the summer (I just started = yesterday) upgraded to Verizon DSL from dial-up. It's nice. I can see that = it is faster than our connection. But installing the DSL totally crashed = their computer. They were never able to recover Eudora. They are convinced = that Eudora doesn't work with their DSL. They have changed over to sucky = Outlook. And they now use Mozilla Firefox instead of Internet Explorer. = There's no reason Eudora shouldn't work. They need to change the ISP information in Eudora, is probably all. Firefox is an improvement over IE. I just started using portable Firfox on a USB key - you might like that because then you can take your "environment" with you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:36:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58EaKv9002385 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:36:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:36:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAED38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:36:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2767217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:36:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58EaJZ8020368 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:36:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so12030nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.21 with SMTP id w21mr2099279nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:36:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kgFThJv+TxuQfDbu0sPm0eZAxxqsZdToNyefmUklY5rkaEmPRjTogDxml0tNijLGWZrLcmQHUZUvCPAG6IAUWDn0Sc5aP8l3VCpYu0DVjquilZxk9kKtRCw6u9pVior0/zY7HQuWADa4TXso/WPK8I/nLnf6pXdvAgG1zQM8auY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060807365958ecb7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:36:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506080724683f89ee@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58EaJZ8020369 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > Not exactly. It's not the changeability, but the perception of > > unfathomable depths. > > OK, let me try again to see if I understand now: one word for a piece > of Jell-O on a plate, another for the Grand Canyon filled with the > same flavor of Jell-O? (Where's Christo when you need him?) It's actually not a word difference, it's a spelling difference. Both are pronounced "aoi" (like when you hurt yourself, owee). But yes. A tree by itself is a different color than a forest. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:44:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Ehuv9002834 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:43:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:44:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAED82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:43:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2767816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:43:56 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58EhtkY021923 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:43:55 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111068700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:43:55 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608074459.02b22eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:45:10 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: WAY In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:57 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: >Big, BIG spoilers can be found by googling the name of one of the >photographers this month: > >http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/jenshel/jenshel_large/p-jenshel_large01.htm > >Ben I love that photo! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 09:51:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Epfv9003818 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:51:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:51:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAEE47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:51:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2769261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:51:41 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58EpeE1023896 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:51:40 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111070439 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:51:40 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608074652.02aeb260@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:52:55 -0700 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Computer question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What don't I have set correctly to not get a view of my full scrabble board on my laptop? I get everything except where the board is supposed to be is just this quarter inch white box with a yellow square in the middle. Right now I am still using IE. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 10:15:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58FFlv9006703 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:15:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:15:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00672A34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:05:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2770398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:05:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58F5kPb026308 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:05:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so36664nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.66 with SMTP id t66mr2123281nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:05:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qZ3eWQJe5r5yUt6ecY2sOtk5dJGL4nVWWA3XHR7sqS+vS2DNCJzT2LjfmAiKUqVY5l/c0v+N3JS8MM3WdC4WdZ72jpQPB/Sz8ldojbGi19lW0L8gYxThXrwWZzcWbfqPrKgDvWcVQcHEfVTg2qpMb/uVDO+02Dbz/jWFvQz+XaA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:05:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58F5lPb026309 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 10:21:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58FKiv9007395 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:20:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:21:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAEED5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:12:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2771090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:12:21 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58FCLJ8027437 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:12:21 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111075804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:12:20 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:13:36 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm I'm sure the percentage is higher. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 10:21:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58FKiv9007392 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:20:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:21:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAEEF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:10:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2770074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:10:01 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58F00io025409 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:00:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 30972 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 15:00:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:00:00 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050608145959.GB22459@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506080614686879e0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506080614686879e0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:14:30AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on shortening > > > + final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a > > > dozen other "-o" words that I once jotted down in a place that I cannot > > > find at the moment. > > > > I've heard of this happening in France; perhaps it's related. > > It's what language does. Thanks for that "outro". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 10:21:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58FKiv9007388 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:20:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:21:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAEEF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:09:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2770734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:09:10 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58F99Wf026817 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:09:10 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 24284BE8C7; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CADBC2849 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:09:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Um, I forgot to mention that traditionally they have no word to > > distinguish blue from green, and traffic lights are traditionally > > called "blue lights" even though they are bright green. So, they > > distinguish the blue of an apple or a traffic light, from the blue of > > an ocean or a forest. They sound the same, but can be spelled > > differently to build in this distinction of depth. > > I am sure that his google efforts gave him a large number of > "explanations" like the above. He probably wants his question > answered, though. What does 3D color mean and how does it > differ from "flat" color? Seems obvious to me: 3D color is the color of something you might be able to hold, or appears as an ITEM. Flat color is for expanses, washes, and maybe things that don't appear pick-upable or smashable. Shapes aren't discernable or of interest in flat colors. I wonder, if somebody painted a large rectangular canvas a monotonic blue, which way would they color-name it? My guess is either way, depending. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 10:21:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58FKiv9007385 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:20:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:21:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAEE97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:00:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2769144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:00:43 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58EohpT023702 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:50:43 -0400 Received: (qmail 24093 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 14:50:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:50:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050608145042.GA22459@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:44:15PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >and Dan and Ben wrote: > > > >>>Word question of the day. Where the hell did people ever come up > >>>with "addy" for "address"? That is one of many that has NEVER made > >>>any sense to me. > >>> > >>> > >> > >>SMS texting slang? I use -y abbreviations in Runescape, which is > >>mainly played by kids, and it's common. Addy is adamantine (weapons > >>material), Lumby is Lumbridge (city), Fally is Falador (city)... > >> > >> > >And there's Rummy for Rumsfeld. Although I don't use "addy" myself, it > >doesn't strike me as all that odd, given the other -y things floating > >around. > > It's easy to understand the convenience of -y shortenings for quick and > easy-lazy and slangish speech, however, the first association I had when > reading "addy" was that it soon might lead to using "daddress" > (<"daddy") if a person would like to change his or her text more > pun-like, or otherwise get more fun from composing one's texts while > using more pompous-looking style. It doesn't sound very "fun" in English. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 10:21:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58FKivA007395 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:21:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:21:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAEF67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:19:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2771836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:19:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58FJT7a028869 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:19:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so496168nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.16 with SMTP id d16mr1370158nzc; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:19:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lJF9xBljatjjfJpvCc32aUCRmDTtbqOZOSc81FSvPvRop081B9q6SFhAEMJ2m6AhHObdn5KDdUCjxdfyuYhjpGzJ3zXDPRuzDJvcwuLlWHFN++iPn4Oi5wifQ/FXf1Q9XSAoLjPDY6PRHFzY1Xg/VUJwmKTiX19JuOTOuWO7Z8A= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060808197c8b1f97@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:19:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58FJT7a028871 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: > >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm > > I'm sure the percentage is higher. Well, most are untreated... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 10:21:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58FKiv9007391 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:20:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:21:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAEEFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:10:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2770112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:10:43 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58F0g4x025560 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:00:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 31351 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 15:00:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:00:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608150042.GC22459@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70506071236abddaee@mail.gmail.com> <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:16:09AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > I am sure that his google efforts gave him a large number of > > > "explanations" like the above. He probably wants his question > > > answered, though. What does 3D color mean and how does it > > > differ from "flat" color? > > > > You're the man now, dog! Thanks for representing. > > So you don't understand the difference in color quality between an > ocean and a traffic light? Another great explanation! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 10:31:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58FVRv9008850 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:31:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:31:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAEF45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:21:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2772037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:21:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58FLQpB029183 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:21:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so48155nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.56 with SMTP id w56mr2127636nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:21:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MC3q9qE5jYZKH7Fj8CiEiSZn7NePj4jzMTIHMi1eooFVkAaA5pj2g3nNl6mV3d1ZATZmSwQioKQ7SQMPFubSrGoIX9PdhemezXt/UwGd9t2dG4RLNUykvEsj7MVZK6zCMNDxuSmZBWSmsHLjzQYsdFGjbYnkPy6sTdjOtTDKTNE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506080821662fd1af@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:21:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: <20050608145959.GB22459@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506080614686879e0@mail.gmail.com> <20050608145959.GB22459@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58FLRpB029184 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:14:30AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > > There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on shortening > > > > + final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a > > > > dozen other "-o" words that I once jotted down in a place that I cannot > > > > find at the moment. > > > > > > I've heard of this happening in France; perhaps it's related. > > > > It's what language does. > > Thanks for that "outro". Are you calling me outré? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 10:56:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Fudv9011790 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:56:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:56:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF14C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:56:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2775774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:56:38 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58FubMx003771 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:56:37 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so154007rnf for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.92.63 with SMTP id p63mr3732632rnb; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:56:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GcX9ElhJsW8pRLfeYQ+THz1iZsJjgK8UEKfAPG1e1HkgAiLabJlXNpzYTzN+d5RNWbsFEyIcr25m7IlyQMAg7n8kbpZALFM3rKmeWVmlCyehGOMWyOhpXAOFNPve8+IOprikSA165lH2kkp/wIsHjCowqJaKI5PoRECDj5EeZLo= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:56:37 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58FubMx003774 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Bookrat wrote: > There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on shortening > + final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a > dozen other "-o" words that I once jotted down in a place that I cannot > find at the moment. A "Dieso" is the (diesel engine) mechanic who looks after generators and the like at the Australian (and maybe British?) antarctic stations. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:16:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GGjv9014540 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:16:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:16:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF23A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:15:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2777592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:15:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58GFCtB007087 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:15:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so547245nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.58.19 with SMTP id g19mr716562nza; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jhC5C+NYQtFrYcfRrm4tFzdy0Xobhmcql/IM6P2ptczydzQDjoxuskMVV2tVE06ew6nC9uIeVXDpeDdt0nLuJOsHhFuF61va+uvwJ7H+2P75oY393jvSLV06k2XlFvMaXnhy57XVB++GYJRw6Lhu3yQwVZ3im8BSz9olovvdZ84= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:15:09 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060807365958ecb7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506080724683f89ee@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060807365958ecb7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58GFCtB007088 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It's actually not a word difference, it's a spelling difference. Both > are pronounced "aoi" (like when you hurt yourself, owee). But yes. A > tree by itself is a different color than a forest. Interesting! Thanks. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:16:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GGjv9014541 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:16:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:16:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF1A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:06:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2776658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:06:39 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58G6dLj005458 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:06:39 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so398595wri for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.45.7 with SMTP id s7mr4287450wrs; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:06:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RUFPIljlHVfJ7GbaH+hg6reKrW5VlpfRskFV7nnXyRwsO1YuLmuSJIju5DeWDAWIWY5aG+rHOIa4Q8c7yJOueEZA/PDFkVB/Jhnr/wSyipzpIoTeLqXJBf0FKCBn0UEEoGW1Cu5/VqHIoTxHFC+UN6qts7E2H/EP+j65zAQ0aPg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:06:38 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060807295687c9b2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060807295687c9b2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j58GGjv9014541 > > Speaking of mysteries, but not British ones, which I pretty much no > longer read, I just finished the latest (which may be a few years old > already) John Dunning: http://tinyurl.com/axjkj > > All about Richard Burton (the explorer). Very cool stuff--though > Tushar will hate it, I'm sure. Yes, I enjoyed that also. There is new Dunning book in the series. I read it in Norway. Pretty good, but not as good at that one. >Why don't they use Mozilla's mailer? >Karen Good question. I shall ask that next Saturday night when next I go to work. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:18:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GIZv9014710 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:18:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:18:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF205@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:18:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2776801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:18:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58G8VgU005779 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:08:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 66201 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 16:08:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:08:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608160830.GA65588@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060807295687c9b2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060807295687c9b2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:29:58AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > I think I do this because of reading so many British mystery > > novels. > > Speaking of mysteries, but not British ones, which I pretty much no > longer read, I just finished the latest (which may be a few years old > already) John Dunning: http://tinyurl.com/axjkj > > All about Richard Burton (the explorer). Very cool stuff--though > Tushar will hate it, I'm sure. Yeah, all books suck. They are like Fowler monkeys. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:20:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GK9v9014858 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:20:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:20:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF216@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:20:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2777036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:20:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58GA8qt006099 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:10:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 67620 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 16:10:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:10:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Book Message-ID: <20050608161008.GB65588@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050608073463d19350@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050608073463d19350@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:34:10AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > http://www.powells.com/review/2005_06_08 > > Truth stranger than fiction... I hate it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:21:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GLjv9015080 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:21:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:21:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF22D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:21:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2777205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:21:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58GBii2006489 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:11:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 67936 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 16:11:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:11:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608161141.GC65588@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506080724683f89ee@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060807365958ecb7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060807365958ecb7@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:36:18AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > Not exactly. It's not the changeability, but the perception of > > > unfathomable depths. > > > > OK, let me try again to see if I understand now: one word for a piece > > of Jell-O on a plate, another for the Grand Canyon filled with the > > same flavor of Jell-O? (Where's Christo when you need him?) > > It's actually not a word difference, it's a spelling difference. Both > are pronounced "aoi" (like when you hurt yourself, owee). But yes. A > tree by itself is a different color than a forest. What has this to do with blue vs green? Or do all cool colors tend to blue, in masses? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:23:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GNCv9015172 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:23:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:23:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF27A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:23:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2778222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:23:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58GNB5T008374 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:23:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so505593nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.106.17 with SMTP id e17mr345749nzc; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:23:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ewK2tyUOFHroRMSCt2N0o70ylUMY4CDbHUiIdPooE9Ijshdn9TrvwJ5ZOEm9JVVmC48qeCMWEa2iSVO9IDGtEnpXL5StpgXmhqde1rviUmb8kF/VhrY9hkG7iIfuoQnue4mKE45jItUzKH+Mg7IBoTgfjAaT6++aPpwVgAZBAKE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060809232fb358b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:23:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Book In-Reply-To: <20050608161008.GB65588@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050608073463d19350@mail.gmail.com> <20050608161008.GB65588@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58GNB5T008376 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:34:10AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > http://www.powells.com/review/2005_06_08 > > > > Truth stranger than fiction... > > I hate it. Did you read it? I thought it sounded fascinating--better than a British mystery. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:34:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GYEv9016562 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:34:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:34:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF297@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:24:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2778301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:24:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58GOCcq008491 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:24:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so506308nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.2 with SMTP id u2mr73842nzb; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:24:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Cx6peIaJwLlZtr9gguBc+YrbpEI3tAN1eLE5CPKhpYpHHAQk9nIUlsBFp3e0gF1FCAduHCLyY52tDac/Z3Tfp4I2JmAHsWTV148zB8bcfYlpYryy9ajaFzNcJI9QqrDU9h2yjE77jhPqMXwz83yR4jM8cP8AYZDqSj+o2rsq7JM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060809247ffd2a75@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:24:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <20050608161141.GC65588@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506080724683f89ee@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705060807365958ecb7@mail.gmail.com> <20050608161141.GC65588@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58GODcq008492 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > It's actually not a word difference, it's a spelling difference. Both > > are pronounced "aoi" (like when you hurt yourself, owee). But yes. A > > tree by itself is a different color than a forest. > > What has this to do with blue vs green? Or do all cool colors > tend to blue, in masses? What color is the lake today? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:34:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GYEv9016561 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:34:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:34:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF260@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:28:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2777790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:28:22 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58GILBT007556 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:18:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 70993 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 16:18:21 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:18:21 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608161821.GD65588@words-l.org> References: <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:09:05AM -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > Um, I forgot to mention that traditionally they have no word to > > > distinguish blue from green, and traffic lights are traditionally > > > called "blue lights" even though they are bright green. So, they > > > distinguish the blue of an apple or a traffic light, from the blue of > > > an ocean or a forest. They sound the same, but can be spelled > > > differently to build in this distinction of depth. > > > > I am sure that his google efforts gave him a large number of > > "explanations" like the above. He probably wants his question > > answered, though. What does 3D color mean and how does it > > differ from "flat" color? > > Seems obvious to me: 3D color is the color of something you might be able > to hold, or appears as an ITEM. Flat color is for expanses, washes, and > maybe things that don't appear pick-upable or smashable. Shapes aren't > discernable or of interest in flat colors. > > I wonder, if somebody painted a large rectangular canvas a monotonic blue, > which way would they color-name it? My guess is either way, depending. The question remains: this is not a distinction between what we call blue and green. If you are looking at a huge green valley and a very blue sky, what do you call these colors? Furthermore, "deep" is not that uncommon an English qualifier for red, green, blue etc, i.e. English has some rough analog of "depth". But it doesn't distinguish colors in English--a deep green is still a green. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:39:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GdUv9017202 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:39:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:39:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00672BF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:29:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2777859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:29:29 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58GJTGq007724 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:19:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 71947 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 16:19:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:19:29 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:13:36AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: > >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm > > I'm sure the percentage is higher. That's insane of you. Go to the corner psycho immediately and register your "criteria". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:39:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GdUv9017206 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:39:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:39:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00672CAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:29:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2777902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:29:55 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58GJsfn007816 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:19:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 72412 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 16:19:54 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:19:54 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050608161954.GF65588@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506080614686879e0@mail.gmail.com> <20050608145959.GB22459@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506080821662fd1af@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506080821662fd1af@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:21:26AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:14:30AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > > > There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on shortening > > > > > + final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a > > > > > dozen other "-o" words that I once jotted down in a place that I cannot > > > > > find at the moment. > > > > > > > > I've heard of this happening in France; perhaps it's related. > > > > > > It's what language does. > > > > Thanks for that "outro". > > Are you calling me outr?? Ha!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:39:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GdUv9017205 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:39:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:39:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00672C5E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:38:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2779290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:38:56 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58GctbO010634; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:38:56 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111103003; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:38:55 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:40:10 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:19 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:13:36AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: > > >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm > > > > I'm sure the percentage is higher. > >That's insane of you. > >Go to the corner psycho immediately and register your >"criteria". The percentage is certainly higher on this list alone. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:51:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GpRv9018651 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:51:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:51:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF333@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:51:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2780247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:51:27 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58GpRKo012651 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:51:27 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF381@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:51:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200506081651.j58GpRKo012651@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:51:27 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> > I'm sure the percentage is higher. >> >>That's insane of you. >> >>Go to the corner psycho immediately and register your >>"criteria". > >The percentage is certainly higher on this list alone. :)! Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:53:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Gr0v9018834 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:53:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:53:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF37D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:52:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2779650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:52:58 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58GgvqG011290 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:42:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 83817 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 16:42:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:42:57 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20050608164257.GA82301@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:40:10AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 09:19 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:13:36AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > >> At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: > >> >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm > >> > >> I'm sure the percentage is higher. > > > >That's insane of you. > > > >Go to the corner psycho immediately and register your > >"criteria". > > The percentage is certainly higher on this list alone. Since the blue/green/japanese/3D thread, yes ... but remember the three golden letters: B F D From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 11:57:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58GvWv9019358 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:57:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:57:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF3A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:57:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2780641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:57:27 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58GvRQa013308; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:57:27 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111108230; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:57:26 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608095746.027d2180@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:58:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <20050608164257.GA82301@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608164257.GA82301@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:42 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:40:10AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 09:19 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:13:36AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > >> At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: > > >> >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm > > >> > > >> I'm sure the percentage is higher. > > > > > >That's insane of you. > > > > > >Go to the corner psycho immediately and register your > > >"criteria". > > > > The percentage is certainly higher on this list alone. > >Since the blue/green/japanese/3D thread, yes ... but remember >the three golden letters: B F D You continue to lower the standard. Why aren't you at work doing something constructive? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:10:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HAQv9021065 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:10:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:10:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF3C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:00:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2780811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:00:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58H0Lif013838 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:00:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so530757nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.59 with SMTP id w59mr2191534nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qf/iZ04r7K0lUSmhjd0hQaaBJRhLIoxvR7MQ8mapGRpFKpCFw3myBcoogdRkRgzdZ4AdlwfOqH8DV0+byZBBjWxOopdVDV9tfrVLKSNhHJk2cUd2ns/huGX81eiF3XCd+GZYyxITn9/iBbOvMmouV2m/0ESvKpwtv98l5ELf5Lc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060810002e5181ea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:00:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58H0Mif013841 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 09:19 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:13:36AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > > At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: > > > >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm > > > > > > I'm sure the percentage is higher. > > > >That's insane of you. > > > >Go to the corner psycho immediately and register your > >"criteria". > > The percentage is certainly higher on this list alone. Really? I think of us as particularly well-adjusted. But I suppose that says volumes about me... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:10:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HAQv9021066 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:10:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:10:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF3C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:03:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2780951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:03:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58H3fBj014222 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:03:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so532920nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.11 with SMTP id a11mr876271nzc; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:03:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=C3Q1v7siFZvY8F5Bj12iEpm8F6folnRabbfww9Y7J1g8eCkk3x+rTE1DUE5mEp8GYv3j0h2ixK8DtQY99Px19yhOHYcMJ8b5QW+XhVwr69u8d5llBO1oXo45amWDZd75kWZV7LXs8MX/pVLA7l7DirpWKRbx+rOGOkr6nj38piI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060810032fa7b447@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:03:40 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: <20050608161954.GF65588@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506080614686879e0@mail.gmail.com> <20050608145959.GB22459@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506080821662fd1af@mail.gmail.com> <20050608161954.GF65588@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58H3fBj014228 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:21:26AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:14:30AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > > > > There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on shortening > > > > > > + final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a > > > > > > dozen other "-o" words that I once jotted down in a place that I cannot > > > > > > find at the moment. > > > > > > > > > > I've heard of this happening in France; perhaps it's related. > > > > > > > > It's what language does. > > > > > > Thanks for that "outro". > > > > Are you calling me outr?? > > Ha!!! Nice save, whackjob. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:12:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HCev9021261 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:12:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:12:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF421@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:12:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2780909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:12:40 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58H2cYF014138 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:02:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 93242 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 17:02:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:02:38 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20050608170238.GB82301@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:05:46AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm Don't be too complacent. Everyone else is catching up fast... for instance, that very page has a feature called "World's most beautiful women". Obviously all Xinhua consumers watch that, as also about 8 cop shows or hardball talk shows per day, and write extensive summaries of Star Wars and Survivor, while muttering and sticking pins in humorously kitschy "voodoo dolls" of their bosses. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:15:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HF5v9021611 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:15:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:15:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00672CE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:05:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2781052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:05:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58H535L014412 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:05:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so126802nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.56 with SMTP id w56mr2199470nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:05:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LxrcDXKHuSJkeohfCiyZq6yve4S+29+bAq0UlRGuoQi23MZGDDdCavJKxmnB8GJ7LBtEWP/rLHi0aM7jFp6vJfNq0r1x0mZBqZVwWCuAHih3WCYT8cYvUn3MgWzU8gMtB238DuAWGBhDwX5tscIZC85N0Ih7HkBSNNOuu4IlzTk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060810052964f735@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:05:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <20050608161821.GD65588@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <20050608161821.GD65588@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58H545L014415 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > The question remains: this is not a distinction between what > we call blue and green. Right. > If you are looking at a huge green > valley and a very blue sky, what do you call these colors? Aoi. > Furthermore, "deep" is not that uncommon an English qualifier > for red, green, blue etc, i.e. English has some rough analog > of "depth". But it doesn't distinguish colors in English--a > deep green is still a green. Yes, that's true. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:16:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HGMv9021769 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:16:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:16:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF431@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:16:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2781176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:16:21 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58H6IEb014775 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:06:18 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j58H63bM009668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:06:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:06:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> When you use a phrase, it means exactly whatever you want it to mean. >Heh ... brilliant allusion. Shakespeare? Think Humpty-Dumpty. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:27:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HQtv9023742 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:26:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:27:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00672DC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:16:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2781215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:16:55 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58H6tYi014890 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:06:55 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j58H6eNo009935 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:06:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:06:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: next Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Omaha, NE. Creighton University. I am putting myself in the hands of Jesuits for a month. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:27:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HQtv9023744 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:26:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:27:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00672D67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:18:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2781403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:18:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58H8mYa015372 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:08:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 95748 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 17:08:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:08:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Book Message-ID: <20050608170848.GA93304@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050608073463d19350@mail.gmail.com> <20050608161008.GB65588@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060809232fb358b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060809232fb358b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 11:23:11AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:34:10AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > http://www.powells.com/review/2005_06_08 > > > > > > Truth stranger than fiction... > > > > I hate it. > > Did you read it? No. > I thought it sounded fascinating--better than a British mystery. I just looked it up--yes, it is "fascinating till the end". The problem is, I remember as a kid that I found even the Readers Digest versions of such fascinating stories impossible to finish. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:27:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HQtv9023743 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:26:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:27:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00672C0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2781948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:12 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58HHCPB016611 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:12 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j58HHCvT013457 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:12 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58HH01J011309 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:01 -0400 Message-ID: <006301c56c4d$e2764310$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705060808197c8b1f97@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:00 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" > On 6/8/05, Betty Clark wrote: >> At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: >> >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm >> >> I'm sure the percentage is higher. > > Well, most are untreated... Most are in denial... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:29:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HSov9023928 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:28:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:29:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF4CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:20:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2781480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:20:08 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58HA8dN015562 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:10:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 97168 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 17:10:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:10:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20050608171008.GB93304@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608164257.GA82301@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608095746.027d2180@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608095746.027d2180@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:58:41AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 09:42 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:40:10AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > >> At 09:19 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:13:36AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > >> >> At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: > >> >> >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm > >> >> > >> >> I'm sure the percentage is higher. > >> > > >> >That's insane of you. > >> > > >> >Go to the corner psycho immediately and register your > >> >"criteria". > >> > >> The percentage is certainly higher on this list alone. > > > >Since the blue/green/japanese/3D thread, yes ... but remember > >the three golden letters: B F D > > You continue to lower the standard. Why aren't you at work doing something > constructive? Doing constructive shit at work is the single biggest cause of mental illness in America. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:29:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HSov9023930 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:28:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:29:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF4D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:27:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2782004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:27:50 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58HHn01016734 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 244 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 17:17:49 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:17:49 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20050608171749.GC93304@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705060810002e5181ea@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060810002e5181ea@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:00:20PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 09:19 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:13:36AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: > > > > >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm > > > > > > > > I'm sure the percentage is higher. > > > > > >That's insane of you. > > > > > >Go to the corner psycho immediately and register your > > >"criteria". > > > > The percentage is certainly higher on this list alone. > > Really? I think of us as particularly well-adjusted. But I suppose > that says volumes about me... I think we should distinguish between mental illness and mental weakness. This list scores higher-than-average on the latter. As for the former ... For instance, take someone's incomprehensible statement that the word "neurotypical" is a "euphemism for normal". You have to be mentally ill to think that there currently exists a need for euphemisms for "normal". As also to have no clue about derisive terms for "mainstream" society in every known subculture. Particularly well-adjusted is not what I would call such a person. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:29:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HSov9023924 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:28:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:29:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF496@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:18:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2782704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:18:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58HI2ux017006 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:18:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so47676nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.141.16 with SMTP id o16mr1412659nzd; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:18:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sFyLz+7xhRm2psbVM655PBpZj1JVwP/pz0QEI9H/mneobJEOFiQGz/r3b+nOfkN8zmCYXwfGWxOVWHU5UQYtLx4xz+sZF1FmIIHZHbj2FXphaXTJkLHnsrt3YuqKCHyd2FQXvvMsbeuliXAc8Yesq4hmacCg2jnp68Jy6J0586U= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:18:01 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58HI2ux017009 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Omaha, NE. Creighton University. I am putting myself in the hands of > Jesuits for a month. Is it you or them for whom we should pray? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:29:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58HSov9023929 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:28:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:29:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF4A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:18:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2782799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:18:53 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58HInVE017143 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:18:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE8A99ADC for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:18:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08143-04 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:18:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05CE99ADB for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:18:48 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42A7284F.3080807@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:18:07 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <20050608145042.GA22459@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050608145042.GA22459@words-l.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.273 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:44:15PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >>if a person would like to change his or her text more >>pun-like, or otherwise get more fun from composing one's texts while >>using more pompous-looking style. >> >> > >It doesn't sound very "fun" in English. > > Probably not. What I was thinking some time after sending the message, but had left the computer already, so I couldn't send another: jokes or bad jokes or non-jokes with words denoting beloved ones, parents especially, usually are not funny. But this is what doesn't always occur when writing or speaking in a foreign language. Just "Daddy" or "Dad" din't ring the same bell in me that the Estonian equivalent would have rung. Sorry -- not for a poor joke, but if any of you felt hurt. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:41:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Hf8v9025507 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:41:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:41:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF59D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:34:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2784801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:34:40 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58HYekT020052; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:34:40 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111118820; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:34:38 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608103526.027a76a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:35:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <20050608171008.GB93304@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608164257.GA82301@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608095746.027d2180@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608171008.GB93304@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:10 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Doing constructive shit at work is the single biggest cause >of mental illness in America. I'm on the road to recovery. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:41:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Hf8v9025510 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:41:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:41:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF5A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:38:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2785327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:38:25 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58HcOKn020832; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:38:24 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111119830; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:38:24 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608103913.027d8150@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:39:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:33 AM 6/8/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >Did you know the human body produces enough mucus each day to fill a >quart-size mayonnaise jar? > >(credit: CNN) You're not going to start your disgusting signature line again are you? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:41:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Hf8v9025514 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:41:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:41:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF5DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:38:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2783861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:38:19 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58HSIsi018894 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:28:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 5531 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 17:28:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:28:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608172818.GA5245@words-l.org> References: <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <20050608161821.GD65588@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060810052964f735@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060810052964f735@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:05:03PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > The question remains: this is not a distinction between what > > we call blue and green. > > Right. Why did you introduce it in an answer to a question about "3D"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:41:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Hf8v9025515 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:41:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:41:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF588@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:33:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2784628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:33:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58HXQmI019842 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:33:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so145585nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.56 with SMTP id w56mr2219292nzg; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:33:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=bq6eM/JlhGRq5IatRordEZgmxGkcPt+clTgaYKNrTnsEr8tiODY0zb4x8GDYWRghXlauxaLRM+ONRW1eCzSI/xrD06ezumHiKVvFw+KpWYAoAErliXzcrko7ygw1SmsTHI07/BCBa8SqwEsCt5rf5djyitKJrMlsSlRsavrDbLU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:33:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Mayonnaise and saliva Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58HXRmI019843 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did you know the human body produces enough mucus each day to fill a quart-size mayonnaise jar? (credit: CNN) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:41:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Hf8v9025512 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:41:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:41:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF558@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:31:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2784301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:31:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58HV7uJ019476 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:31:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so550256nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.2 with SMTP id u2mr120942nzb; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:31:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aoZB/FE4A5jjfrbJ2goHdexOGLtmL9b3LFgjVX5W5qghs3A/zDOoL4xdg0sm9EeR/R4tq73dgerXOWhHou3mxmMNNiJdVqreQC5zICaxtVlC+C+zmly/3SWa4VjeNwCItQM8eleBxHHxMJ0dxZtBAo43aoQwsMidUvWhhe7ZILM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060810312c6b2164@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:31:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <20050608171749.GC93304@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705060810002e5181ea@mail.gmail.com> <20050608171749.GC93304@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58HV8uJ019478 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have you perfected your Turing machine, Eliza? On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:00:20PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/8/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > At 09:19 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:13:36AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: > > > > > >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure the percentage is higher. > > > > > > > >That's insane of you. > > > > > > > >Go to the corner psycho immediately and register your > > > >"criteria". > > > > > > The percentage is certainly higher on this list alone. > > > > Really? I think of us as particularly well-adjusted. But I suppose > > that says volumes about me... > > I think we should distinguish between mental illness and > mental weakness. This list scores higher-than-average on > the latter. As for the former ... > > For instance, take someone's incomprehensible statement > that the word "neurotypical" is a "euphemism for normal". > You have to be mentally ill to think that there currently > exists a need for euphemisms for "normal". As also to have > no clue about derisive terms for "mainstream" society in > every known subculture. Particularly well-adjusted is not > what I would call such a person. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:44:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Hinv9025866 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:44:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:44:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00672D46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:44:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2785919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:44:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58HimWS021835 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:44:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so585182nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.15 with SMTP id t15mr2239718nzt; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:44:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SU8zuEo3ZakNKnfSzvGA0e67i6cPH/Q+NR5Sp5tjGxpQhlqg1gYH6olDCf3pZeU/qeAmbCmmaPexTkHMP7hPcn5OptF5EnKQp8ZERa4DIoQVQc/AtL2zMaV5t+ea8xoKe+uEtDwiUJH+T+U1Dgr4aOsomZurF79I+g9d5kuoNxo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050608104451f01498@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:44:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608103913.027d8150@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608103913.027d8150@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58HinWS021837 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 10:33 AM 6/8/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >Did you know the human body produces enough mucus each day to fill a > >quart-size mayonnaise jar? > > > >(credit: CNN) > > You're not going to start your disgusting signature line again are you? No. I r not particularly phlegm-full this afternoon. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:55:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Htbv9026962 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:55:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:55:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF631@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:45:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2786022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:45:36 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58HjaCq021978 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:45:36 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:45:35 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:45:04 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU why mayonnaise? are other quart-size jars different? why not say "mayonnaise is commonly sold in quart-size mucus jars" ? BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/8/2005 1:33:26 PM >>> Did you know the human body produces enough mucus each day to fill a quart-size mayonnaise jar? (credit: CNN) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:56:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Htbv9026968 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:55:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:55:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF65C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:55:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2785935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:55:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58Hj6Cr021869 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:45:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 14216 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 17:45:06 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:45:06 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050608174506.GB5245@words-l.org> References: <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <20050608145042.GA22459@words-l.org> <42A7284F.3080807@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A7284F.3080807@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:18:07PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:44:15PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >>if a person would like to change his or her text more > >>pun-like, or otherwise get more fun from composing one's texts while > >>using more pompous-looking style. > >> > >> > > > >It doesn't sound very "fun" in English. > > > Probably not. What I was thinking some time after sending the message, > but had left the computer already, so I couldn't send another: jokes or > bad jokes or non-jokes with words denoting beloved ones, parents > especially, usually are not funny. But this is what doesn't always occur > when writing or speaking in a foreign language. Just "Daddy" or "Dad" > din't ring the same bell in me that the Estonian equivalent would have > rung. Sorry -- not for a poor joke, but if any of you felt hurt. There seems to be a whole lot of unnecessary apologizing going on. I don't know why anybody would be "hurt" by an unsuccessful joke. Also, the above is not unfunny because it has to do with parents. It's just not a kind of verbal trick that English speakers find funny--in my experience. Now, of course, I know the reason for all the apologizing ... everyone has decided that all Americans for all eternity are going to take extreme offense at the stupidest little thing. That's happens not to be true. Well, maybe it's true for the South, I have heard rumors. But in general, no. The OTHER reason is more reasonable--since the word "funny" has been rendered so meaningless in the US, nobody can predict what "unfunny" means either. Here, I sympathize. I can't figure it out myself. Funny could mean something that doesn't fit the known formulas for serious, it could mean something not quite understood, it could mean anger-inducing, whatever! "Humorous" is the least common sense of funny, anymore. People who are out of their depth call their uncontrollable situations funny. How on earth did they get possession of this word? My personal theory is that the clergy facilitated it. But on that, some other time ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:56:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Htbv9026964 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:55:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:56:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF607@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:46:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2786167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:46:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58Hkm1U022143 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:46:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so154501nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.17 with SMTP id l17mr2096453nzc; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:46:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G5KBiO4WizUSNN54b2BQZ04z+5/Tuaj4na0Hudi+vBGZVkzllyuqi+YMJBl3Rrl2YMQUyeURr5ZTwLIoiIJxbnli2DSIeittfCxoy+FXsf5onf9GisbsuVB4Gz2745KFGr3uI9hv/U7GO0GwD48q57vQ0GFfddcC23Dy9gCwPy0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060810467c50e46a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:46:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58Hkn1U022148 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > why mayonnaise? > > are other quart-size jars different? > > why not say "mayonnaise is commonly sold in quart-size mucus jars" ? EXACTLY!!! Or, mayonnaise is commonly sold in mucus-sized quart jars. Karen can't wait for peaches TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 12:56:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Htbv9026967 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:55:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:55:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF633@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:45:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2786039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:45:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58Hjj8J022003 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:45:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so559773nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.2 with SMTP id u2mr131529nzb; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IvSH6CNRZX8P8zR+yAfC3qRXMPbInG9iI+XTBJYUAbtTbEWSfu/+5JEn7rJVv6m9UpeAbJdaNVwVpTTklTdSLtdxo9K7e/s9HyIRpwvGImnNqwMLCYmK2+DyG+X6/oQi1L61+0+WM26+5BBwCyyCreV3OTm7Ox62Px3mSmg26RQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060810457b410cbf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:45:44 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <20050608172818.GA5245@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <20050608161821.GD65588@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060810052964f735@mail.gmail.com> <20050608172818.GA5245@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58Hjj8J022008 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:05:03PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > The question remains: this is not a distinction between what > > > we call blue and green. > > > > Right. > > Why did you introduce it in an answer to a question about "3D"? Because I had forgotten to mention this relevant information earlier. I apologize. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 13:17:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58IHLv9029391 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:17:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF6AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:57:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2786321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:57:56 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58HluZo022382 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:47:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 15215 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 17:47:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:47:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20050608174755.GB14320@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608164257.GA82301@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608095746.027d2180@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608171008.GB93304@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608103526.027a76a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050608103526.027a76a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 10:10 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Doing constructive shit at work is the single biggest cause > >of mental illness in America. > > I'm on the road to recovery. I will never have to take that road. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 13:17:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58IHLv9029394 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:17:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF69C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:01:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2786506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:01:40 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58HpNiZ022848 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:51:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 17550 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 17:51:23 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:51:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva Message-ID: <20050608175123.GB15324@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060810467c50e46a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060810467c50e46a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:46:48PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > why mayonnaise? > > > > are other quart-size jars different? > > > > why not say "mayonnaise is commonly sold in quart-size mucus jars" ? > > EXACTLY!!! Or, mayonnaise is commonly sold in mucus-sized quart jars. That's funny! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 13:17:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58IHLv9029388 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:17:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF6BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:57:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2786229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:57:19 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58HlI1N022261 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:47:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 14950 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 17:47:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:47:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20050608174718.GA14320@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705060810002e5181ea@mail.gmail.com> <20050608171749.GC93304@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060810312c6b2164@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060810312c6b2164@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:31:05PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Have you perfected your Turing machine, Eliza? Hah! F-U-N-N-Y! > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:00:20PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 6/8/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > At 09:19 AM 6/8/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > >On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:13:36AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > > At 08:05 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > >http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/08/content_3056856.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure the percentage is higher. > > > > > > > > > >That's insane of you. > > > > > > > > > >Go to the corner psycho immediately and register your > > > > >"criteria". > > > > > > > > The percentage is certainly higher on this list alone. > > > > > > Really? I think of us as particularly well-adjusted. But I suppose > > > that says volumes about me... > > > > I think we should distinguish between mental illness and > > mental weakness. This list scores higher-than-average on > > the latter. As for the former ... > > > > For instance, take someone's incomprehensible statement > > that the word "neurotypical" is a "euphemism for normal". > > You have to be mentally ill to think that there currently > > exists a need for euphemisms for "normal". As also to have > > no clue about derisive terms for "mainstream" society in > > every known subculture. Particularly well-adjusted is not > > what I would call such a person. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 13:17:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58IHLv9029395 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:17:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF6DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:00:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2786432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:00:22 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58HoLo9022680 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:50:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 17324 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 17:50:21 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:50:21 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers Message-ID: <20050608175021.GA15324@words-l.org> References: <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <20050608161821.GD65588@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060810052964f735@mail.gmail.com> <20050608172818.GA5245@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060810457b410cbf@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060810457b410cbf@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:45:44PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:05:03PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > The question remains: this is not a distinction between what > > > > we call blue and green. > > > > > > Right. > > > > Why did you introduce it in an answer to a question about "3D"? > > Because I had forgotten to mention this relevant information earlier. > I apologize. You are excused this time. There is still the matter of the single word. How does the notion of depth bear on the different spellings and/or meanings of Aoi? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 13:17:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58IHLv9029396 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:17:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:17:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF779@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:12:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2788493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:12:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58ICVoI026201 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:12:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so600792nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.18 with SMTP id u18mr2271054nzu; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:12:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=D1Zo/UXDIhHa3DoVTW2xg3GqlutaFJpVYVD4QLHvLkYoNtJnGUBIZ3j0fP1uXFWUl+/opTdbLEq2Y/Zd3Uwxc6gheSbZvK0vAlK4xImDLUr3CCOQGjkLf5aNLKcO847qTPL7Aro8bf4Xr/JmVAB979ezXQuCLkip/NyYmbIPSww= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060811126344eb11@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:12:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <20050608174718.GA14320@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705060810002e5181ea@mail.gmail.com> <20050608171749.GC93304@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060810312c6b2164@mail.gmail.com> <20050608174718.GA14320@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58ICVoI026202 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:31:05PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Have you perfected your Turing machine, Eliza? > > Hah! F-U-N-N-Y! Perhaps we are ETs? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 13:23:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58IMrv9029988 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:22:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:22:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00673051@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:22:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2789164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:22:52 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58IMpl3027746 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:22:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0D899BF5 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:22:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15640-02 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:22:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8DD99BF1 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:22:48 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42A73778.1070503@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 21:22:48 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question References: <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <20050608145042.GA22459@words-l.org> <42A7284F.3080807@akad.ee> <20050608174506.GB5245@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050608174506.GB5245@words-l.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.208 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>>Kristin Sarv wrote: >>> >>> >>Sorry -- not for a poor joke, but if any of you felt hurt. >> >> > >There seems to be a whole lot of unnecessary apologizing going >on. > I know I may apologize too much sometimes. But parents is a sensitive and delicate topic and somebody's getting hurt is more liable than when other subjects are talked on. > I don't know why anybody would be "hurt" by an unsuccessful >joke. > And this was not what I apologized for. > Also, the above is not unfunny because it has to do with >parents. It's just not a kind of verbal trick that English >speakers find funny--in my experience. > > Good. -- That is, to get to know about what wasn't the reason of its being unfunny. >Now, of course, I know the reason for all the apologizing ... >everyone has decided that all Americans for all eternity are >going to take extreme offense at the stupidest little thing. >That's happens not to be true. Well, maybe it's true for the >South, I have heard rumors. But in general, no. > > I wouldn't find it stupid if anybody had felt offended. Of course, it might have been much worse if I had said to somebody personally, "your Daddress...". Fortunately it didn't happen and fortunately I have some common sense left so that it even didn't occur to me to say so. >The OTHER reason is more reasonable--since the word "funny" >has been rendered so meaningless in the US, nobody can predict >what "unfunny" means either. Here, I sympathize. I can't figure >it out myself. Funny could mean something that doesn't fit the >known formulas for serious, it could mean something not quite >understood, it could mean anger-inducing, whatever! "Humorous" >is the least common sense of funny, anymore. People who are >out of their depth call their uncontrollable situations funny. >How on earth did they get possession of this word? My personal >theory is that the clergy facilitated it. But on that, some >other time ... > Hmm... The multivalence of "funny" doesn't bother me if there is enough context. I remember some post from Doris where she wrote that life was funny, and maybe that people were funny, and the context didn't leave any doubt what she meant. I liked her views. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 13:28:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58ISPv9030624 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:28:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:28:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF801@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:28:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2789500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:28:24 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58ISOlV028430 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:28:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF3B98158 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:28:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17460-07 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:28:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AF297ECC for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:28:23 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 21:28:22 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Gene Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.51 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris, I hope he is doing well. And you, too. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 13:40:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58IeAv9032536 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:40:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:40:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF831@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:40:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2790473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:40:10 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58Ie9Ks029760 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:40:09 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.129.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608184009.ZXP26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:40:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.129.43]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050608184009.KMGB29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:40:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42A73B83.7030308@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:40:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Seven Faker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ha. The cross on AnnBork's 7 sure looks like an after-thought to me! And Terry is not a 7-crosser. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 13:44:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58IiNv9000271 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:44:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:44:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAF8B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:44:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2790838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:44:23 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58IiIuS030338 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:44:18 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:44:18 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:43:53 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: A Seven Faker Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, but did you ever answer about how you do the other numbers? BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 6/8/2005 2:40:03 PM >>> Ha. The cross on AnnBork's 7 sure looks like an after-thought to me! And Terry is not a 7-crosser. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:16:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58JGkv9004130 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:16:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:16:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00672FFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:16:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2793236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:16:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58JGd6d002413 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:16:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so635375nzp for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.18 with SMTP id u18mr2313791nzu; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:16:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sKbINp02Zin5OVYFt63BNGq5PGiqNTKZDASHSIVTYqm8Wdxb1CawqyNKQvMSvMl3FuUisegypxMnOBaA34SR4STrBCt7eEyhg717LuG3jpCpmpahf+Q8DXpxm/AL+rKTQRtDUbFXt9kroRUiO9u5tbIWCPfkL/cWWaiUQc8ZlsQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060812164956ffa8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:16:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Book In-Reply-To: <42A741F0.7000507@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050608073463d19350@mail.gmail.com> <42A741F0.7000507@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58JGf6d002415 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > "67 people fainted as I read my horror story" > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2005/06/07/bochuck07.xml Thank you. I'm not a big fan of this guy, but this story is priceless. As good as the one I originally posted about, in a totally different way. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:25:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58JP6v9005124 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:25:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:25:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF97D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:09:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2791846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:09:59 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58IxwlS032489 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:59:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 55131 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 18:59:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:59:57 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20050608185957.GA53523@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705060810002e5181ea@mail.gmail.com> <20050608171749.GC93304@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060810312c6b2164@mail.gmail.com> <20050608174718.GA14320@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060811126344eb11@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705060811126344eb11@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:12:31PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:31:05PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > Have you perfected your Turing machine, Eliza? > > > > Hah! F-U-N-N-Y! > > Perhaps we are ETs? Funnier and funnier ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:25:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58JP6v9005122 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:25:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:25:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF961@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:07:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2792492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:07:30 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58J7TlP001281 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:07:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <200506081907290150031040e>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:07:29 +0000 Message-ID: <42A741F0.7000507@istori.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:07:28 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Book References: <8ddfc8a7050608073463d19350@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050608073463d19350@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "67 people fainted as I read my horror story" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2005/06/07/bochuck07.xml Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:25:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58JP6v9005120 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:25:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:25:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF976@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:13:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2793075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:13:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58JDoHn002134 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:13:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so613024nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.132.3 with SMTP id f3mr99534nzd; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:13:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Oa88bVzIDs6+rCsOQRPI9Z91KFASVriZYqeReG03q8pGRv62xUC/o1V6ZA/fgD9IMYJ6DxY3rhq/oplkx0jH95zIhCioBWq/5PAmv+JfWDoOsICBYSnR2GcF9T4tEMbN+WuRrt+noVlYXT/fpT4CKUfY2zvwrH0LkUFteqAe5bc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060812133f0834ce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:13:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Woohoo! US #1!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <20050608185957.GA53523@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705060808056fc76fd4@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608081322.02b1a440@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608161929.GE65588@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050608093922.02781800@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705060810002e5181ea@mail.gmail.com> <20050608171749.GC93304@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060810312c6b2164@mail.gmail.com> <20050608174718.GA14320@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705060811126344eb11@mail.gmail.com> <20050608185957.GA53523@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58JDoHn002135 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:12:31PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:31:05PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > Have you perfected your Turing machine, Eliza? > > > > > > Hah! F-U-N-N-Y! > > > > Perhaps we are ETs? > > Funnier and funnier ... I love you, ET! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:25:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58JP6v9005123 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:25:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:25:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF9BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:15:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2793152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:15:21 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58JFLlQ002268 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:15:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBC59831F for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:15:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21821-09 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:15:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4870D982B6 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:15:19 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:15:18 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gene References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.511 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Thank you. All is well. His knee is "all new again" Good to get to know about it. And also to read the following about the voices. > Sitting in my chair at the hospital, quietly sewing, > I listen to the sounds of the hospital and try to > decide how I would describe them. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:25:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58JP6v9005116 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:25:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:25:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAF947@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:05:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2792260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:05:05 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58J55QK000772 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:05:05 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D5BCBEB2D3465 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:05:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> Subject: Re: Gene Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:04:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristin Sarv" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: Gene > Doris, I hope he is doing well. And you, too. > > Kristin Thank you. All is well. His knee is "all new again" and presently in some kind of device that keeps moving it. Not fun, but he still has lots of pain medication and good nursing care. So I ran home for a while to do some laundry and make some calls, etc. Sitting in my chair at the hospital, quietly sewing, I listen to the sounds of the hospital and try to decide how I would describe them. Always voices coming from another room, a hallway, the nurse's station, etc. . . . and sounding muffled, as if I'm hearing them in a dream, and they all blend together, sometimes forming sentences that make no sense. People sick and dying, but the voices always talk about things like food . . what they had for lunch . . how to do a barbecue . . or they talk about what they did Saturday night, and they laugh a lot. Voices of people passing and you catch just a few words. Voices speaking up for a cell phone but, even so, muted . . as if the caller is shouting into an empty spongey barrel. Doctors voices rise at every doorway saying "How are you doing today?" and then fade into a blur of common phrases which I can't quite hear, except for "maybe tomorrow . .we'll see how it goes." Gurneys are smooth and merely whirr, kitchen carts have more rattles and a giveaway scent. Etc. etc. etc. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:25:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58JP6vA005124 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:25:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:25:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF996@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:17:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2793321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:17:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58JHtrW002622 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:17:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so615288nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.2 with SMTP id u2mr192418nzb; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ko8ceFgXqHeVHW4UCqdc1Cx46VSRHLOYREZ0Z71LOT5RaGciUlQX9aDEVijFQPSU7wJ96SGp64kX/pDM41ygOUI7HiEZ3JadSMcfaF7h/ywRUrdwVGrQaq4AmdFwEN8UnC+AczArI4Y4ZNFiEUDjUoMF+iYBJi1tcFqkw5FP3bY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060812177d0357a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:17:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gene In-Reply-To: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j58JHtrW002624 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Sitting in my chair at the hospital, quietly sewing, > I listen to the sounds of the hospital and try to > decide how I would describe them. Always voices > coming from another room, a hallway, the nurse's > station, etc. . . . and sounding muffled, as if I'm hearing > them in a dream, and they all blend together, sometimes > forming sentences that make no sense. I found this comforting when I was in the hospital. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:25:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58JP6vA005122 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:25:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:25:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FAF982@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:15:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2793161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:15:32 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58JFVHp002286 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:15:31 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 15:15:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 15:15:17 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Gene Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU good news the little cradle thing that keeps the knee moving is a pain, but it is a brilliant idea and makes a huge difference in the long run it gets a little easier every day from here on tell him it's appropriate to a new knee that it should look (for the moment) like a bottle of champagne was broken over it healing thoughts and vibes continue your way BrP >>> dmarkld@INEBRASKA.COM 6/8/2005 3:04:59 PM >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristin Sarv" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: Gene > Doris, I hope he is doing well. And you, too. > > Kristin Thank you. All is well. His knee is "all new again" and presently in some kind of device that keeps moving it. Not fun, but he still has lots of pain medication and good nursing care. So I ran home for a while to do some laundry and make some calls, etc. Sitting in my chair at the hospital, quietly sewing, I listen to the sounds of the hospital and try to decide how I would describe them. Always voices coming from another room, a hallway, the nurse's station, etc. . . . and sounding muffled, as if I'm hearing them in a dream, and they all blend together, sometimes forming sentences that make no sense. People sick and dying, but the voices always talk about things like food . . what they had for lunch . . how to do a barbecue . . or they talk about what they did Saturday night, and they laugh a lot. Voices of people passing and you catch just a few words. Voices speaking up for a cell phone but, even so, muted . . as if the caller is shouting into an empty spongey barrel. Doctors voices rise at every doorway saying "How are you doing today?" and then fade into a blur of common phrases which I can't quite hear, except for "maybe tomorrow . .we'll see how it goes." Gurneys are smooth and merely whirr, kitchen carts have more rattles and a giveaway scent. Etc. etc. etc. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:25:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58JP6vA005120 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:25:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:25:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FAFA24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:24:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2793834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:24:12 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58JOB1j003661 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:24:11 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22339518 for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:32:20 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:24:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:26:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1921175150.20050608132613@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Wicked In-Reply-To: <20050608030812.GA58870@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050607200214.02a5d0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608030812.GA58870@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 223, in=91910, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/7/2005, 9:08 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> I don't have an OED at hand, but I believe both have attested DMH> uses predating F Scott Fitzgerald. This is not to deny that at DMH> some point they were new to Fitzgerald too. He obviously wasn't DMH> born with the knowledge. Sorry, Charlie..... b. Excellent, splendid; remarkable. slang (orig. U.S.). 1920 F. SCOTT FITZGERALD This Side of Paradise I. iii. 119 ‘Tell 'em to play ‘Admiration’!’ shouted Sloane... ‘Phoebe and I are going to shake a wicked calf.’ 1977 Western Mail (Cardiff) 5 Mar. 8/2 He could, as I say, sidestep off either foot, but what sped him on was a wicked acceleration over 20 yards. above the full quote pasted from online OED. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:45:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Jj4v9007176 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:45:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:45:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAFACF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:45:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2795321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:45:04 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58Jj3h8006540 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:45:03 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22342311 for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:53:12 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:45:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:47:05 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1707415399.20050608134705@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Actual word question In-Reply-To: <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 223, in=91926, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/8/2005, 6:44 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> It's easy to understand the convenience of -y shortenings for quick and KS> easy-lazy and slangish speech, however, the first association I had when KS> reading "addy" was that it soon might lead to using "daddress" KS> (<"daddy") if a person would like to change his or her text more KS> pun-like, or otherwise get more fun from composing one's texts while KS> using more pompous-looking style. Yeah, I understand y shortenings in principle. But if you're typing, why not just addr instead of addy? And in speech, either one is two syllables, thus not shorter? I don't think I've ever heard addy used verbally, though imagine some do. Just find it one of those irritants of certain email correspondents, most frequently among people on yahoogroups. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 14:51:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58Jp3v9007716 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:51:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:51:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAFB02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:51:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2795757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:50:59 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58Jol3n007324 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:50:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22399513 for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:51:06 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:51:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:52:49 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <190536240.20050608135249@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: writing numbers In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 220, in=78302, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/8/2005, 7:43 AM, bonniemaev wrote: b> Here's another question: How many wordslers use the "our" form in words b> instead of just "or". I do it consistently. But the spell check in Eudora b> doesn't like it. I just typed endeavour in an email and was chastened by my b> spell check. I think I do this because of reading so many British mystery b> novels. I still spell like an American, not a Brit....color, odor, favor, endeavor, etc, etc. Maybe Eudora has a Brit dictionary available? Word does, so wouldn't surprise me if Eudora did. And of course you can always add it to your dic. b> Speaking of Eudora, the Inn where I work in the summer (I just started b> yesterday) upgraded to Verizon DSL from dial-up. It's nice. I can see that b> it is faster than our connection. But installing the DSL totally crashed b> their computer. They were never able to recover Eudora. They are convinced b> that Eudora doesn't work with their DSL. They have changed over to sucky b> Outlook. And they now use Mozilla Firefox instead of Internet Explorer. Ick to both....the loss of Eudora and the loss of IE.... I have for a couple years been happily using The Bat! for my email. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 15:12:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58KCpv9010696 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:12:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 15:12:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FAFB85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:02:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2796910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:02:51 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58K2oSZ009418 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:02:50 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:02:50 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:02:13 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: writing numbers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If I'm communicating with or about one of the "Neighbours to the North" I spell their way. I'm pretty good about pronouncing their way where there is a difference (other than just accent) The one that I always slip up on is anything that uses "Z" pronounced as the letter - like "from A to Z" I always forget that it's "zed" BrP >>> bonniemaev@GMAIL.COM 6/8/2005 9:43:00 AM >>> Here's another question: How many wordslers use the "our" form in words instead of just "or". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 17:08:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58M8cv9023842 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:08:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:08:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006735FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:58:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2805732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:58:36 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58LmZJB024407 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:48:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 38178 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 21:48:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:48:35 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked Message-ID: <20050608214835.GA36113@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050607200214.02a5d0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608030812.GA58870@words-l.org> <1921175150.20050608132613@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1921175150.20050608132613@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:26:13PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/7/2005, 9:08 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> I don't have an OED at hand, but I believe both have attested > DMH> uses predating F Scott Fitzgerald. This is not to deny that at > DMH> some point they were new to Fitzgerald too. He obviously wasn't > DMH> born with the knowledge. > > Sorry, Charlie..... > > b. Excellent, splendid; remarkable. slang (orig. U.S.). > > 1920 F. SCOTT FITZGERALD This Side of Paradise I. iii. 119 ?Tell 'em > to play ?Admiration?!? shouted Sloane... ?Phoebe and I are going to > shake a wicked calf.? 1977 Western Mail (Cardiff) 5 Mar. 8/2 He could, > as I say, sidestep off either foot, but what sped him on was a wicked > acceleration over 20 yards. > > > above the full quote pasted from online OED. Huh? I always thought that wicked had been an adjective for much longer. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 17:12:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58MC9v9024216 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:12:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:12:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB0075@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:02:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2806004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:02:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58Lq7ax024925 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:52:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 40278 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 21:52:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:52:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050608215207.GB36113@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <1707415399.20050608134705@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1707415399.20050608134705@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:47:05PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/8/2005, 6:44 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > KS> It's easy to understand the convenience of -y shortenings for quick and > KS> easy-lazy and slangish speech, however, the first association I had when > KS> reading "addy" was that it soon might lead to using "daddress" > KS> (<"daddy") if a person would like to change his or her text more > KS> pun-like, or otherwise get more fun from composing one's texts while > KS> using more pompous-looking style. > > Yeah, I understand y shortenings in principle. But if you're typing, > why not just addr instead of addy? And in speech, either one is two > syllables, thus not shorter? I don't think I've ever heard addy used > verbally, though imagine some do. Just find it one of those irritants > of certain email correspondents, most frequently among people on > yahoogroups. Still measuring complexity in syllables like an old-school Fowler monkey, I see. Never understood their wanky syllable arithmetic anyway. "You can say this with more precision in the same number of syllables"--so? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 17:31:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58MVLv9026490 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:31:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:31:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB0116@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:31:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2807907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:31:20 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j58MVKRM028843 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:31:20 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 1837EBE8BF; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11151C2849 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:31:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: <20050608215207.GB36113@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Never understood their wanky syllable arithmetic anyway. > "You can say this with more precision in the same number > of syllables"--so? You spit less on other people when you say it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 17:45:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j58MjVv9027835 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:45:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:45:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB0104@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:45:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2808100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:45:31 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j58MZUSh029146 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:35:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 60133 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Jun 2005 22:35:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:35:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050608223530.GA58397@words-l.org> References: <20050608215207.GB36113@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:31:20PM -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > Never understood their wanky syllable arithmetic anyway. > > "You can say this with more precision in the same number > > of syllables"--so? > > You spit less on other people when you say it. The same with "addy" and "address"? GTFOH. Let's see some mayonnaise jar arithmetic, ON PAPER. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 20:03:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5913dee008232 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:03:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:03:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB0348@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:03:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2813208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:03:39 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5913aMa010912 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:03:36 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB0396@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:03:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200506090103.j5913aMa010912@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:03:36 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Book To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:23:11 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:34:10AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> > http://www.powells.com/review/2005_06_08 >> > >> > Truth stranger than fiction... >> >> I hate it. > >Did you read it? I thought it sounded fascinating--better than a >British mystery. > >Karen It would round things out nicely if it turned out he made up "the rest of the story", and a lot of people bought it! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 20:05:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5915Iee008407 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:05:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:05:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB0386@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:05:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2813233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:05:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5915EKt011121 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:05:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB034A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:05:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200506090105.j5915EKt011121@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:05:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Actual word question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:03:40 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:21:26AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> > On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:14:30AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> > > > On 6/8/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> > > > > > There seems to be a whole class of British slang that's based on shortening >> > > > > > + final vowel. E.g., a "journo" is a journalist, and there are half a >> > > > > > dozen other "-o" words that I once jotted down in a place that I cannot >> > > > > > find at the moment. >> > > > > >> > > > > I've heard of this happening in France; perhaps it's related. >> > > > >> > > > It's what language does. >> > > >> > > Thanks for that "outro". >> > >> > Are you calling me outr?? >> >> Ha!!! > >Nice save, whackjob. You outer be able to do better than that! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 20:17:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j591Hgee009685 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:17:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:17:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB03A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:07:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2813308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:07:42 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5917c3u011438 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:07:38 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB038F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:07:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200506090107.j5917c3u011438@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:07:38 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >At 10:33 AM 6/8/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Did you know the human body produces enough mucus each day to fill a >>quart-size mayonnaise jar? >> >>(credit: CNN) I'm on the road to recovery. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 20:29:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j591Swee011530 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:29:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:29:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB03EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:28:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2813705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:28:57 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j591IupW012970 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:18:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 36668 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Jun 2005 01:18:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:18:53 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Book Message-ID: <20050609011853.GA36393@words-l.org> References: <200506090103.j5913aMa010912@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506090103.j5913aMa010912@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:03:36PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:23:11 -0500, A Friend of Andy > wrote: > > >On 6/8/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:34:10AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> > http://www.powells.com/review/2005_06_08 > >> > > >> > Truth stranger than fiction... > >> > >> I hate it. > > > >Did you read it? I thought it sounded fascinating--better than a > >British mystery. > > > >Karen > > It would round things out nicely if it turned out he made up > "the rest of the story", and a lot of people bought it! Yeah, that truth would be SO stranger than fiction! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 20:47:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j591lTee013066 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:47:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:47:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB0423@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:47:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2814573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:47:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j591lSRE015218 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:47:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so50473nzo for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.11 with SMTP id a11mr54183nzc; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:47:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OB98rVAoOWRqMwfYSbxCMXgjbQWGI7WYvSAjNfnMkmW14MTBnbeYYfzE1vC33noTLY39MrTINhcdEyE+0VBCK/QayGLJU0ePxC60epB97ykUva1jskusKRRxaaWow3YKZkonv9sypk1F9fJDGG51kcOlNFJNJfbEoEQ8e7E8GBE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050608184746aa5719@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:47:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva In-Reply-To: <200506090107.j5917c3u011438@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506090107.j5917c3u011438@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j591lSRE015220 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >At 10:33 AM 6/8/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >>Did you know the human body produces enough mucus each day to fill a > >>quart-size mayonnaise jar? > >> > >>(credit: CNN) > > I'm on the road to recovery. Have you been sick? I'm sorry! Phlegmitis is ucky. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 20:49:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j591nGee013304 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:49:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:49:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB03EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:49:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2814270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:49:15 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j591dFNY014487 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:39:15 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j591cw3i026186 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:38:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:39:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben: >> Omaha, NE. Creighton University. I am putting myself in the hands of >> Jesuits for a month. > Is it you or them for whom we should pray? Excellent question - it is being debated here in Knoxville even as we . Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 21:39:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j592deee018632 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:39:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 21:39:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB04BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:39:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2816352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:39:39 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j592ddO0020362 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:39:39 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.203]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609023939.QIBJ13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:39:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.203]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609023938.MIR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:39:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42A7ABE4.4010601@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 21:39:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: My Goodness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Y'all have been too loquacious today. I was going to do a quick gallop through list mail before going to bed, but when I saw how high it's piled, I decided to wait until tomorrow. I did look through the queue in search of a possible Gene report and was happy to read Doris's report -- and the description of the hospital sounds, which kept making me think of rooms where women come and go talking of Michelangelo. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 22:16:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j593GWee023110 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:16:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:16:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB07A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:16:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2821829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:16:31 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j593GVuX025365 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:16:31 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C0CF2502D2001 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:16:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c56ca1$9ec14d50$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200506090107.j5917c3u011438@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:16:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Ostrander" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva > >At 10:33 AM 6/8/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >>>Did you know the human body produces enough mucus each day to fill a >>>quart-size mayonnaise jar? >>> >>>(credit: CNN) > > I'm on the road to recovery. > clo Well, if you have gotten rid of a quart-size mayonnaise jar of mucus, no wonder you feel better. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 23:32:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j594WRee030728 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:32:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 23:32:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB0A02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 0:32:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2826714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 00:32:26 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j594WPqp002119 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 00:32:26 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22214582 for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 21:54:19 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:32:51 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:32:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <14284166.20050608223226@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 222, in=79521, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU continuing education? retreat? both? I know the Creighton campus and don't think of it as "retreaty", though obviously anyone can do many of those things anywhere. Go to the Henry Doorly Zoo if you get a chance in your schedule. dan 6/8/2005, 11:06 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Omaha, NE. Creighton University. I am putting myself BKD> in the hands of BKD> Jesuits for a month. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 23:34:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j594YTee030912 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:34:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 23:34:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB0A1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 0:34:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2826775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 00:34:29 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j594YS13002333 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 00:34:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22214871 for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 21:56:21 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:34:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:34:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <624999678.20050608223429@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 222, in=79523, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/8/2005, 11:33 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Did you know the human body produces enough mucus AFoA> each day to fill a AFoA> quart-size mayonnaise jar? Or probably even a quart size milk bottle. But yes, not surprised, and for some of us with various issues it exceeds that by a considerable amount. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 8 23:40:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j594eJee031531 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:40:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 23:40:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB0A2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 0:40:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2826894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 00:40:19 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j594eIW9002743 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 00:40:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22215430 for ; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:02:12 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:40:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:40:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <663443957.20050608224019@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Wicked In-Reply-To: <20050608214835.GA36113@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050607200214.02a5d0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608030812.GA58870@words-l.org> <1921175150.20050608132613@gailndan.com> <20050608214835.GA36113@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 222, in=79525, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/8/2005, 3:48 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> above the full quote pasted from online OED. DMH> Huh? I always thought that wicked had been an DMH> adjective for DMH> much longer. Note that quote is for that meaning of the word, which I trusted would be intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. There are a multitude of other meanings that are left for the student to look up in the tool of his/her choice. I'll expect a two page essay, one inch margins all around, your choice of 8.5x11 or A4 size paper, single spaced, ten point Times New Roman. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 00:16:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j595GZee003907 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 00:16:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 00:16:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB0AE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 1:16:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2828136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 01:16:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5956XX7005059 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 01:06:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 66915 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Jun 2005 05:06:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 00:06:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wicked Message-ID: <20050609050633.GA63813@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050607200214.02a5d0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608030812.GA58870@words-l.org> <1921175150.20050608132613@gailndan.com> <20050608214835.GA36113@words-l.org> <663443957.20050608224019@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <663443957.20050608224019@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:40:19PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/8/2005, 3:48 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> above the full quote pasted from online OED. > > DMH> Huh? I always thought that wicked had been an > DMH> adjective for > DMH> much longer. > > Note that quote is for that meaning of the word, which I trusted would > be intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. There are a > multitude of other meanings that are left for the student to look up > in the tool of his/her choice. I have already indicated that I do not have access to the OED. Whatever. BFD. > I'll expect a two page essay, one inch > margins all around, your choice of 8.5x11 or A4 size paper, single > spaced, ten point Times New Roman. Single spaced ten point ... What a nerd! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 04:39:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j599dIee008650 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 04:39:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 04:39:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00675019@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 5:39:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2835328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 05:39:12 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j599dBcN029291 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 05:39:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622889A407 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:39:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02873-10 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:39:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A3E9A406 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:39:11 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42A80E3A.6080106@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:39:06 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question References: In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.227 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: >On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > >>Never understood their wanky syllable arithmetic anyway. >>"You can say this with more precision in the same number >>of syllables"--so? >> >> > >You spit less on other people when you say it. > Yebbut... when trying to take this into consideration one should avoid 'th'-s, especially when being of Welsh origin or an eager and overenthusiastic foreigner. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 04:55:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j599tXee010462 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 04:55:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 04:55:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB0DD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 5:25:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2834881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 05:25:32 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j599PVdG028226 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 05:25:31 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EDA97CAF for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:25:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32323-05 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:25:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E166397E2C for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:25:29 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42A80B09.4080106@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:25:29 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Old English Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.513 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I cannot leave it unshared: http://libra.englang.arts.gla.ac.uk/oethesaurus/ The address was sent to another list. Old English thesaurus. Just opened it but haven't used it yet. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 04:56:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j599tXee010461 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 04:55:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 04:55:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB0DE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 5:31:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2835008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 05:31:51 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j599VpNF028617 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 05:31:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BEE9A35D for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:31:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01431-04 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:31:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B77A9A309 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:31:46 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42A80C81.9050003@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:31:45 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <1707415399.20050608134705@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1707415399.20050608134705@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.514 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Kristin Sarv wrote: > >KS> It's easy to understand the convenience of -y shortenings for quick and >KS> easy-lazy and slangish speech, > >Yeah, I understand y shortenings in principle. But if you're typing, >why not just addr instead of addy? > Perhaps a psychologist specialized on how a brain is working when a person is writing a text could answer your question. > And in speech, either one is two >syllables, thus not shorter? I don't think I've ever heard addy used >verbally, though imagine some do. Just find it one of those irritants >of certain email correspondents, most frequently among people on >yahoogroups. > > I do not (cannot) approve or disapprove the usage. Anyway, I do not feel tempted to use this very shortening myself. At least not yet. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 06:46:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59Bjxee023743 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 06:46:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 06:46:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB0FA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 7:45:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2826704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:45:59 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59Bjwbs001804 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:45:59 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.220.95]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609114558.RGHR8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:45:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.220.95]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609114558.OMRB5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:45:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42A82BEF.9050000@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 06:45:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers References: <42A5FE44.6060305@istori.com> <8ddfc8a705060713072d7a4bfc@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >When you said flat and 3D, I was thinking that one might use a color >term for a piece of paper and a different color term when it's folded >up into a swan. > > This raises an interesting question re number words. In Japanese a different counting system is used for pieces of paper (something like "mae" is involved -- my skimpy knowledge is fading, and I'm too lazy to look it up) and for swans (something like "pinky" -- that's not right -- why is "pinky" popping into my head -- "hinky"? -- "hicky"?). My parenthetical comments are distracting. The question is this: Since a different count word would be used when talking about three pieces of paper versus three swans, which word would be used when talking about three pieces of paper folded up into swans? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 06:50:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59Bopee024109 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 06:50:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 06:50:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB0FB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 7:50:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2826846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:50:51 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59BopKF002173 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:50:51 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.220.95]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609115051.RIDI8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:50:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.220.95]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609115050.ONST5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:50:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 06:50:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >Here's another question: How many wordslers use the "our" form in words >instead of just "or". I do it consistently. But the spell check in Eudora >doesn't like it. I just typed endeavour in an email and was chastened by my >spell check. I think I do this because of reading so many British mystery >novels. > > I don't use "our" forms, but I do write "theatre" more often than "theater." It's interesting to me how many local theaters/res in the US use the British spelling in their official names. I think I've mentioned that before. I don't think I'd spell it theatre if talking about a movie theater. But I would if talking about the Starkville Community Theatre or maybe if talking (i.e., writing) about getting theatre tickets in NY or something. > They are convinced >that Eudora doesn't work with their DSL. > That makes no sense, at least in my non-techy, non-knowledgeable head. >They have changed over to sucky >Outlook. And they now use Mozilla Firefox instead of Internet Explorer. > > Why don't they use Mozilla for e-mail also? Although, as I think I've said before, every once in a while it annoys me in ways that Netscape Mail never did, I'm pretty happy with Mozilla. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 07:11:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59CB1ee025949 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:11:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:11:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB0F91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:01:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2827235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:01:00 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59C10sQ003229 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:01:00 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.220.95]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609120100.QJZO10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:01:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.220.95]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609120059.QDCP25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:00:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42A82F75.9070102@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:00:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Omaha, NE. Creighton University. I am putting myself in the hands of >Jesuits for a month. > > This reminds me of some e-mail I read last night: > I WAS ON THE BEACH YESTERDAY, AND NEXT TO ME WERE THREE OLDER LADIES. > THEY WERE JUST SITTING THERE, ENJOYING THE SUNSHINE WHEN A COMPLETELY > NUDE MAN CAME UP AND STOOD RIGHT INFRONT OF THEM. > > ONE OF THEM IMMEDIATELY HAD A STROKE. > > THEN ANOTHER ONE ALSO HAD A STROKE. > > THE OLDEST ONE, WHO WAS MORE > FEEBLE..... COULDN'T REACH THAT FAR. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 07:17:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59CGnee026481 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:16:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:16:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006751DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:15:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2827762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:15:37 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59CFat9004632 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:15:36 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.220.95]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609121536.QTGW10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:15:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.220.95]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609121536.QIEL25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:15:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42A832E1.2040706@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:15:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >"from A to Z" I always forget that it's "zed" > > That's one thing I worked on with my Japanese students, especially those with z's in their names. I made them pretend they were giving their names to a hotel clerk in New York and then in London (or vice versa), making them switch between zee and zed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 07:17:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59CGnee026485 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:16:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:17:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006751C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:11:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2827532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:11:12 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59CBCqa004108 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:11:12 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.220.95]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609121112.QQRG10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:11:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.220.95]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609121111.QGRJ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:11:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42A831D9.4080502@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:11:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Seven Faker References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Yes, but did you ever answer about how you do the other numbers? > > I remember noticing those questions when zooming through mail but skipping them since I wasn't sure of the answers -- I don't hook 1's, but whether there's a loop at the bottom of my 2's varies. I don't think I read the rest of the questions. Twas busy. I really am finding retired life a bit too busy at times. I need to cut out some stuff and try to find more . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 07:17:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59CGnee026483 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:16:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:17:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006750A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:06:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2827331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:06:48 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59C6lLm003640 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:06:48 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.220.95]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609120647.QNWP10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:06:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.220.95]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609120647.QFCD25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:06:47 -0400 Message-ID: <42A830D0.3020006@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:06:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva References: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is it true that painting the underside of your house eaves light blue will confuse wasps, making them think it's the sky and thus not build nests there? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 07:18:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59CILee026679 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:18:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:18:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB0FFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:18:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2828103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:18:21 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j59CIKVi005180 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:18:20 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005060914163618321 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:16:36 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:18:30 +0200 Message-ID: <42A83388.7000501@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:18:16 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: A One Faker References: <42A831D9.4080502@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A831D9.4080502@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2005 12:18:30.0435 (UTC) FILETIME=[58E48F30:01C56CED] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I realized when I was filling out a form I should fax: no, my ones are just straight lines. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 07:30:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59CTxee027611 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:30:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:30:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB1075@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:29:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2828657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:29:59 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59CTwn8006581 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:29:59 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB1039@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:29:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200506091229.j59CTwn8006581@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:29:58 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:47:27 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 6/8/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >At 10:33 AM 6/8/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >>Did you know the human body produces enough mucus each day to fill a >> >>quart-size mayonnaise jar? >> >> >> >>(credit: CNN) >> >> I'm on the road to recovery. > >Have you been sick? I'm sorry! Phlegmitis is ucky. > >Karen Actually seems to have been a combination summer cold/bronchitis/allergies. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 07:32:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59CWlee027842 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:32:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:32:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00675236@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:32:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2828723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:32:47 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59CWl61006998 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:32:47 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB107C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:32:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200506091232.j59CWl61006998@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:32:46 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: writing numbers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 06:45:51 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > >>When you said flat and 3D, I was thinking that one might use a color >>term for a piece of paper and a different color term when it's folded >>up into a swan. >> >> >This raises an interesting question re number words. In Japanese a >different counting system is used for pieces of paper (something like >"mae" is involved -- my skimpy knowledge is fading, and I'm too lazy to >look it up) and for swans (something like "pinky" -- that's not right -- >why is "pinky" popping into my head -- "hinky"? -- "hicky"?). My >parenthetical comments are distracting. The question is this: Since a >different count word would be used when talking about three pieces of >paper versus three swans, which word would be used when talking about >three pieces of paper folded up into swans? > During or after the folding process? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 07:35:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59CZ1ee028180 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:35:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:35:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB104B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:35:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2828794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:35:01 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59CZ1MP007257 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:35:01 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB1099@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:35:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200506091235.j59CZ1MP007257@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:35:00 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: where oh where is gmail? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm getting a white page instead. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 07:54:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59CsUee030783 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:54:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:54:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB1089@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:44:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2829320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:44:30 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59CiTPo008746 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:44:30 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so98104wri for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 05:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.48 with SMTP id e48mr310974wre; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 05:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 05:44:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fA50Mpf2TbcheKKbvpxi5mL4Rw6qWWwqVtyhtzJ67SGzJFd3Xr1n7KBfhf2XDJiGg3FhjE5jMF3+uYV6cK1TX0pmwQi+saNtoz3wmHdnHOqDCvntQflnDb2cEqh6gezToaSo4ktt3pGyManzaLFsnIgSD36tfiDxcgOYeojvBjY= Message-ID: <83db447a0506090544205cb9e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:44:29 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: where oh where is gmail? In-Reply-To: <200506091235.j59CZ1MP007257@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506091235.j59CZ1MP007257@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j59CsUee030783 On 6/9/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > I'm getting a white page instead. > clo > If you are not receiving it, how do you expect to read an answer? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 08:13:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59DDDee000545 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:13:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:13:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB1142@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 9:03:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2831132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:03:12 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59D3CND012538 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:03:12 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 96256487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:02:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42A83E0F.9090608@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:03:11 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next References: <42A82F75.9070102@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A82F75.9070102@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > This reminds me of some e-mail I read last night: > >> I WAS ON THE BEACH YESTERDAY, AND NEXT TO ME WERE THREE OLDER LADIES. >> THEY WERE JUST SITTING THERE, ENJOYING THE SUNSHINE WHEN A COMPLETELY >> NUDE MAN CAME UP AND STOOD RIGHT INFRONT OF THEM. >> >> ONE OF THEM IMMEDIATELY HAD A STROKE. >> >> THEN ANOTHER ONE ALSO HAD A STROKE. >> >> THE OLDEST ONE, WHO WAS MORE >> FEEBLE..... COULDN'T REACH THAT FAR. > LOL!! Some guy in New Hampshire evidently read this as well and has been going around one of the beaches there wearing only a hat. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 09:15:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59EF5ee007851 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:15:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:15:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB13C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:05:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2836336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:05:03 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59E52Ax022254 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:05:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so129757wri for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.142.8 with SMTP id p8mr343966wrd; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:05:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RutjKDZMn44WxW7KVqq9NwJZA1BY+hATST4syrcgk+tCJL34ID1QBsMAU37+jKzfilfyK7/ogO4dNOSLHfa/KgvV4OVSX/nDl4fsAZMkuDTPjLuRRT79qlqRkLeZHWfea7I6rfO6G25fSt5bXiqrSjq2FmYM3xa965Ylkg/Vlqc= Message-ID: <83db447a050609070531e5665f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:05:02 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: another line for Bookrat's header? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j59EF5ee007851 Just noted on another list: "...there is a difference between honesty and Tourette's syndrome." cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 09:16:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59EFree007954 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:15:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:16:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB1478@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:15:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2837189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:15:53 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59EFn7U024304 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:15:49 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:15:49 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:15:19 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: a bite of the Dill Pickle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As a tangent to some stuff I'm researching for work, I've been reading up on the Dill Pickle Club - " Chicago social club, established in 1917, to provide an unconventional meeting-place for the uninhibited and free-thinking, including Socialists, atheists, anarchists and liberated women, lecturers and soapbox orators, artists actors, playwrights, literary hopefuls, and a range of Bohemian types." (quote from Newberry Library's Dill Pickle Club Records) I thought I'd share a bite with y'all: >From a 1990 article about Ben Hecht in Commentary "The Great Hack Genius" by Joseph Epstein : "At the Dill Pickle Club, scene in Chicago of poetry readings, one-act plays, and other excruciating evenings of advanced culture, Hecht once engaged Maxwell Bodenheim over the question, 'That People Who Attend Literary Debates Are Imbeciles.' Hecht began by announcing that the affirmative side rested, Bodenheim followed with 'You win,' and the two men walked off with the evening's receipts." I love my job! BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 09:54:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59EsVee012754 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:54:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:54:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB1479@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:24:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2837794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:24:30 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59EOUPl025672 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:24:30 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 066C9CFC585E3 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:19:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c56cfe$2c6c8690$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <83db447a050609070531e5665f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: another line for Bookrat's header? Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:18:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" To: Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:05 AM Subject: another line for Bookrat's header? Just noted on another list: "...there is a difference between honesty and Tourette's syndrome." cwv Now that is funny. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 09:54:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59EsVee012755 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:54:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:54:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB14D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:31:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2838551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:31:11 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59EVBQf026937 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:31:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so119148wri for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.28.69 with SMTP id b69mr404374wrb; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:31:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BOkMLrKCBx9lC9IE+O4sMVXVuiL57YfVOmAYf6b0Q2JoxNszTNNNo4ScbFwqnVSa4Fps4JLxKNyKW5w4/0Sn715j6kla4M7YVs5sGPYKuddwvl4Nf/B47Tcv3MVq5MU3/hA/DNkcuWp2qnaYyhNzkgaHP4Qf1yobeC7AWGl0tCU= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050609073129d224c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:31:10 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gene In-Reply-To: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j59EVBQf026939 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/8/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > Thank you. All is well. His knee is "all new again" > and presently in some kind of device that keeps > moving it. Not fun, but he still has lots of pain > medication and good nursing care. Glad to hear Gene is doing so well. Look forward to hearing about his progress. I really enjoyed your observations about hospital noises. Usually a person who can read while waiting, I find it hard to do in a hospital, the sounds keep grabbing my attention. It reminds me of a beehive - lots of activity with purpose. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 10:55:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59Fshee019969 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:54:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:54:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB1923@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:51:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2847776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:51:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59FpePg011456 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:51:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so8125nzp for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.9 with SMTP id j9mr480541nzb; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:51:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ciq07ktFy2M5UBpIotykL3Ih6SPx+c3dByAJHpy/kHB9tXOWvwahTrw24CfiahmY5tdyn8DiFK6uJbnT4Umdpom7fi0KiDEYTEaHL1sT6llIWyQpL6XgK0EAhtkB1/h7L/+lf6Rddc4cAyt9X7OmFjHhADH+kRYLPU+AluaeVmA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060908515b42bdf5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:51:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gene In-Reply-To: <44dce1c1050609073129d224c9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <44dce1c1050609073129d224c9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j59FpfPg011465 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/9/05, Terry Wild wrote: > I really enjoyed your observations about hospital noises. Usually a > person who can read while waiting, I find it hard to do in a hospital, > the sounds keep grabbing my attention. It reminds me of a beehive - > lots of activity with purpose. It puts me to sleep better than ocean noises. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 10:55:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59Fshee019967 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:54:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:55:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB18FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:44:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2846013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:44:43 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59FYhgO008733 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:34:43 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j59FYRbM023751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:34:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:34:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: CU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: >continuing education? retreat? both? >I know the Creighton campus and don't think of it as "retreaty", >though obviously anyone can do many of those things anywhere. >Go to the Henry Doorly Zoo if you get a chance in your schedule. Continuing ed. In the (summer) Christian Spirituality degree/certificate program. Thanks for the zoo tip - other than the zoo tip I know zip about Creighton, except that some college world championship will be played there soon. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 10:55:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59Fshee019966 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:54:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:55:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB1914@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:47:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2847089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:47:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59FlqY3010842 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:47:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so201208nzo for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.118.4 with SMTP id q4mr479471nzc; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:47:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oWfKp8GLwcNWPjVVGbHA69AFWzrHUdeSmYoZT6nfR6yaO2gy/J2n8X+E9QqxjN/3R+IMLBHEU/S55alC4caWqzNWT81q2Ed01B2PVaiybXBoBB0aabCmO5Vus2bmx4x85ITEFBep7nCTBxcw40TZNA1VtiJ4p0hoJhx+uwjCDRo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050609084737d65137@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:47:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva In-Reply-To: <200506091229.j59CTwn8006581@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506091229.j59CTwn8006581@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j59FlrY3010844 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/9/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Actually seems to have been a combination summer cold/bronchitis/allergies. Sorry to hear that, that sucks. I do hope you are supraneurotypical soon! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 10:55:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59Fshee019968 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:54:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:55:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB192A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:49:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2847229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:49:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59FnKDb011069 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:49:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so193937nzp for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.15 with SMTP id m15mr475687nzb; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:49:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QxlxaBwmZYE3+WdT0m1XzAhffUd3gj85d/ZDiYqfdUvik9E4xtk8IhJMJhYPNLd8ynqCD0l4L5piX2P9wSb2DDZ72E62+wgLyy7v8cQilpMTm7x4EAvFMm0CWFHQaS4RzGmVbQL+31AbxdS40YpH8ZV87L5Zkbb5VEYdT3DTi+Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050609084974546179@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:49:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a bite of the Dill Pickle In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j59FnKDb011070 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/9/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > "At the Dill Pickle Club, scene in Chicago of poetry readings, one-act > plays, and other excruciating evenings of advanced culture, Hecht once > engaged Maxwell Bodenheim over the question, 'That People Who Attend > Literary Debates Are Imbeciles.' Hecht began by announcing that the > affirmative side rested, Bodenheim followed with 'You win,' and the two > men walked off with the evening's receipts." > > > I love my job! That sounds like something Tushar would do... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 11:07:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59G76ee021444 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:07:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:07:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB198C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:57:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2848604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:57:06 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59Fv5FX012217 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:57:06 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:57:05 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:56:31 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: a bite of the Dill Pickle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was going to suggest that but I was afraid I would be accused of not reading headders. BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/9/2005 11:49:18 AM >>> That sounds like something Tushar would do... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 11:07:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59G76ee021446 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:07:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:07:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB19E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:00:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2848845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:00:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59G0cw1012708 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:00:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so227563nzk for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.10 with SMTP id s10mr334297nzc; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:00:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ssFKAYPkAkEUf27Y9dvZHNjT5k432Q5IqZ3pxEPnoDplaaviyxK3JwGVcfX7AwgvV1lwUtLcayqxBGmwFO/EcB+CTGRvRmz+3kzt0qeaUcKWMdEmdvu2x53aLEnV6+/BsTVXdREH5joJiOsWmoTbOCvPdcuXhg6nsIUcBJTHTI4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705060909005e628bfe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:00:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <42A82BEF.9050000@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <42A82BEF.9050000@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j59G0dw1012709 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/9/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > The question is this: Since a > different count word would be used when talking about three pieces of > paper versus three swans, which word would be used when talking about > three pieces of paper folded up into swans? Clue: senbazuru means "1000 cranes". Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 11:08:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59G8Hee021556 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:08:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:08:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067573A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:08:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2849385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:08:16 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59G8GTM013713 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:08:16 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.9]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609160814.QAMC9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:08:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.9]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609160814.VSEG7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:08:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:08:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Ceiling Fan Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If any of you are knowledgeable about ceiling fans, whether they need oil, and how to accomplish that, I'd love it if you'd look at this description of my problem (with illustrations) and offer advice: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Fan/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 11:20:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59GKRee022761 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:20:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:20:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB1AA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:20:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2850061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:20:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59GKQCV014928 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:20:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so213901nzp for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.1 with SMTP id n1mr497791nzc; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:20:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MqNREPBCm6SPIBfpYwpN9yRVtdqhMxxa/pXR/nDODp/4qIViJOM5ldcSmhOaWCYfi0KFYLQAPEn3z06oszI2iUGBPDtZe2TQGV7v1uin8VK7y2f3XrGetYEIB2QxihOUpgt9ah6Py7UnYNSC0GaSiQSiQMC6MO/f9LwefWUgc4E= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506090920146809b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:20:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question In-Reply-To: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j59GKQCV014929 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When I installed my ceiling fans, they explicitly said they were unoilable. I've never heard of oiling ceiling fans, but I'm a novice. On 6/9/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > If any of you are knowledgeable about ceiling fans, whether they need > oil, and how to accomplish that, I'd love it if you'd look at this > description of my problem (with illustrations) and offer advice: > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Fan/ > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 11:21:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59GL4ee022829 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:21:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:21:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB1AA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:21:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2850097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:21:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59GL34a015032 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:21:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so214327nzp for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr508835nzd; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=twGVvZuLeFU9BH06dj08S//HoRePwnzgl2+RB47H9x4mkwyX8vkrwQp8zZrA/q7ckFzQxdjw15RZqPh3sZXewIas7WbZW2s3gEEOaHaenFFt3iVOtA4U5BvinR+Woae5TgN4MkD+MMgf8H7+xUgcUlHJHjRaxaqeSJiB/3pulNQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050609092160aea217@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:21:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a bite of the Dill Pickle In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j59GL44a015033 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/9/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I was going to suggest that but I was afraid I would be accused of not > reading headders. BFD! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 11:56:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59Gtlee027026 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:55:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:56:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067594C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2852775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:47 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59Gjkit019165 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:47 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c51so101222rne for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.2.70 with SMTP id e70mr299493rni; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:45:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Cl3anm5XAM54iu9yUoMgKWr1oxygusSwfipkiiw/04mTOGCYYf7atufhVHrvalPQK9eC99fMkiiZ16k/a/ZSK3polwhiAyYl4c/mbxXn4z/LHkfosOuMwJutrhCnPLGGFd32HzmpRwkIaFtHZSTJ9Res/PmjQa5Strt5jmn5GQk= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:40 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question In-Reply-To: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j59Gjlit019166 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/9/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > If any of you are knowledgeable about ceiling fans, whether they need > oil, and how to accomplish that, I'd love it if you'd look at this > description of my problem (with illustrations) and offer advice: > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Fan/ 1) Don't run it while it's in this condition; it may well overheat. 2) Although there are all sorts of "sealed for life bearings" and the like unoilable things out there, in practice almost all of them can be oiled. But you certainly can't do it while it's attached to the ceiling the way it is. Taking it down, and then taking it apart is probably not the sort of thing you want to be doing. 3) Although lack of lubrication almost certainly is the problem, that is not the same thing as lack of oil. Very often the oil has got gummy, and adding more won't do much to help that. You need to get the sticky remnants out before adding more, and again (based on my long experience of your level of technical interest and skills :-)) that's probably not something you want to be mucking with. 4) Ceiling fans are so cheap these days ("anymore"?) that it's probably much better and easier to just buy and install a new one. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 12:20:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59HKTee030158 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:20:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:20:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB1BF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2852752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59GjXek019119 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so234650nzo for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.19 with SMTP id m19mr529407nzm; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:45:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XPhLBCONH1TrVDKl0ax2m6eJNA9BXJUAx/I1WqMX+TPx9NCfg6JD1YD1h5ITA+YiUDCsv83rAZiuhFPQdQeNJOrG5U10WllGUc8h/w8WE3u4MNFIeipZC0W2FzAciX0XpTlxz64Q7LZdUM1MWxkZkdpLDiWJ9T19x0mazUhCGd0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050609094545ebddcd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:45:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j59GjYek019126 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/9/05, bonniemaev wrote: > It doesn't need oil. It is broken. Go to Home Depot and buy another one. > Hire a good electrician to install it. Think up some other projects in need > of a good electrician and have him/her do those things as well. They aren't hard to install yourself, but they are awkward. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 12:20:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59HKTee030152 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:20:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:20:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB1CC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:11:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2854635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:11:31 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59HBVB9023746 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:11:31 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:11:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:11:19 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In Syracuse you'd have to paint the eaves gray BrP >>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 6/9/2005 12:45:16 PM >>> > Is it true that painting the underside of your house eaves light blue > will confuse wasps, making them think it's the sky and thus not build > nests there? Dunno; I'd ask my local extension service if I were you. Or possibly ask a wasp entomologist, if you know any. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 12:20:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59HKTee030154 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:20:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:20:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB1C85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:59:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2853959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:59:06 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59Gx6aL021753 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:59:06 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2005060917003311100osjeae>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:00:33 +0000 Message-Id: <200506091659.j59Gx6aL021753@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: A Ceiling Fan Question Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:59:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 thread-index: AcVtElMLOHrtdRZcQtamq1Lq51ErzQAAgdGg Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of bonniemaev >Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:41 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question > >> >> If any of you are knowledgeable about ceiling fans, whether they need >> oil, and how to accomplish that, I'd love it if you'd look at this >> description of my problem (with illustrations) and offer advice: >> >> http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Fan/ >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > It doesn't need oil. It is broken. Go to Home Depot and buy another one. >Hire a good electrician to install it. Think up some other projects in need >of a good electrician and have him/her do those things as well. > > >-- >--bonniev > Or go to the manufactuers web site or call them. Alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 12:20:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59HKTee030160 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:20:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:20:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB1BA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2852708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59GjH3Q019046 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:45:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so8304nzp for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.220.71 with SMTP id s71mr585352nzg; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hcysF2bPJ6s8EsHcwZFHwXyH/DtJvff+ggaSH68rM/ag9h+Su11sEjcEvhmpV//j1Aqb7+ZG3beKH/RU4vNGa0vJmCOG6ws+43bYEpt8afV7B3/WLa1PI28eCyyk1sRW64gbblaP+WVXVzKKZfEuZaTN6zM16Upsldq8KJvwV9c= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:45:16 -0500 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva In-Reply-To: <42A830D0.3020006@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> <42A830D0.3020006@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j59GjH3Q019047 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Is it true that painting the underside of your house eaves light blue > will confuse wasps, making them think it's the sky and thus not build > nests there? Dunno; I'd ask my local extension service if I were you. Or possibly ask a wasp entomologist, if you know any. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 12:20:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59HKTee030159 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:20:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:20:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB1BB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:41:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2852392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:40:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59Gerjw018274 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:40:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so230841wra for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.118.7 with SMTP id q7mr485866wrc; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XiaDVcbaiRR4bcZTv0iU607Vkp1ZBQAYeKGt8ZABnwvMg3th+AAPgPOsWl0PQm+HXZHWVJWV26wI+/uFhw6gJl1FrJGTzkbwIJlf5Z5k8azFIrFluF4iFBUzsngCWX69sWdkSF0Iq/CMLDjZuxXU01fBQ0wBujinw0kBAcWBv98= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:40:53 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question In-Reply-To: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j59HKTee030159 > > If any of you are knowledgeable about ceiling fans, whether they need > oil, and how to accomplish that, I'd love it if you'd look at this > description of my problem (with illustrations) and offer advice: > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Fan/ > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It doesn't need oil. It is broken. Go to Home Depot and buy another one. Hire a good electrician to install it. Think up some other projects in need of a good electrician and have him/her do those things as well. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 12:26:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59HQCee030522 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:26:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:26:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB1D96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:26:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2856150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:26:11 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59HQB5W026350 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:26:11 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:26:11 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:25:47 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 1) spread lots of oil all over the blades 2) turn the fan on high 3) stand real close BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 6/9/2005 12:08:05 PM >>> If any of you are knowledgeable about ceiling fans, whether they need oil, and how to accomplish that, I'd love it if you'd look at this description of my problem (with illustrations) and offer advice: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Fan/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 12:29:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59HTaee030846 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:29:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:29:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB1D9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:29:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2856352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:29:36 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59HTasg026778 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:29:36 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:29:36 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:29:01 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: a bite of the Dill Pickle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU hmm *pondering* the B must be for bite and the D must be for dill ... >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 6/9/2005 12:21:03 PM >>> BFD! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 12:53:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59HrJee000693 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:53:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:53:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB1DFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:43:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2856609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:43:19 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59HXJ8B027270 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:33:19 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j59HX3vq004030 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:33:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:33:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: ceiling fan Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Get a new one, Natalie. Bethany, about to buy a new one, also From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 12:53:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59HrJee000695 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:53:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:53:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB1E28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:49:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2857939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:49:35 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59HnYdw029731 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:49:34 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <200506091749330120012p91e>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:49:33 +0000 Message-ID: <42A8812D.2070304@istori.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:49:33 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva References: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> <42A830D0.3020006@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A830D0.3020006@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie writes, > Is it true that painting the underside of your house eaves light blue > will confuse wasps, making them think it's the sky and thus not build > nests there? So it is said. The 'net still seems inconclusive: http://www.cce.cornell.edu/suffolk/IPM/report03.htm > This year Cornell Cooperative Extension in collaboration with NYS IPM > program participated in the "Sky Blue Paint Project". This particular > trial involved painting man-made nest sites and underside of awnings sky > blue to determine whether color was a deterrent in nest initiation for > paper wasps. The first year trial results are inconclusive, therefor > monitoring will continue next year. Trial locations included the Suffolk > County Farm and Education Center, Bayard Cutting Arboretum, and > Riverhead County Center Dentist Trailer. http://www.enature.com/expert/expert_show_question.asp?questionID=19393 > A. Wasps can see blue quite well. I'd never heard of the practice of > painting things blue to prevent wasp nests, but apparently if the color > is close enough to that of the sky, wasps will in fact mistake the site > for the sky and not build there. Here are bluebirders discussing wasp deterrence, including slippery coatings like aluminum foil or paraffin; one hypothesis about painting eaves is that the paint serves to be slippery, instead of confusing: http://www.bestofbbml.audubon-omaha.org/wasps4.htm Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 12:58:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59HwXee001381 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:58:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:58:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB1EBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:58:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2858650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:58:32 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59HwWWY031128 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:58:32 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j59HwP8u030084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:58:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:58:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> Message-ID: References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If I'm going to attend this, I'm going to need: (1) A firm date, time, and location, and (2) One or more tributes, eulogies, or appropriate comments from Wordslers. Janice and I did spend a day with Brad in Lexington, but my direct memories of him make a pretty thin text to base a eulogy on. If you want me to do this, I'll need some help here. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 13:11:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59IAsee003280 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:10:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:11:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB1F3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:10:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2859706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:10:54 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59IArUu000438; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:10:54 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68286805; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:10:50 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050609111126.02e5b2c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:12:05 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:58 AM 6/9/2005, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >If I'm going to attend this, I'm going to need: > >(1) A firm date, time, and location, and > >(2) One or more tributes, eulogies, or appropriate comments from >Wordslers. > >Janice and I did spend a day with Brad in Lexington, but my direct >memories of him make a pretty thin text to base a eulogy on. If you want >me to do this, I'll need some help here. > > Larry Where's Marty? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 13:24:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59IOBee004962 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:24:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:24:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB1FAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:24:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2861026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:24:11 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59IOA2x002207 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:24:11 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.9]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609182411.IUAX16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:24:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.9]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609182410.TBYQ4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:24:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42A88944.3010109@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:24:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506090920146809b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506090920146809b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >When I installed my ceiling fans, they explicitly said they were >unoilable. I've never heard of oiling ceiling fans, but I'm a novice. > > The ones I've bought have been the no-oil kind, but I know that there are (or at least used to be) the other kind also -- the kind that had to be oiled. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 13:27:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59IRAee005335 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:27:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:27:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB2007@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:27:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2861282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:27:10 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59IRAO6002709 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:27:10 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.9]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609182709.IYGO16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:27:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.9]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609182708.TEDH4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:27:08 -0400 Message-ID: <42A889F6.9020208@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:27:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > It doesn't need oil. It is broken. Go to Home Depot and buy another one. >Hire a good electrician to install it. Think up some other projects in need >of a good electrician and have him/her do those things as well. > > I can't imagine that there's anything about this one that would require an electrician. I hired an electrician to do the last of the three I put in my last house because I was afraid it might be too tricky for an ordinary person (since the switches and stuff in that room had been changed around to accommodate track-lighting, making me not sure what kinds of wires might or might not be up there). A handyman is all one needs for most ceiling-fan installing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 13:29:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59ITbee005494 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:29:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:29:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB2047@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:29:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2861644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:29:37 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59ITbJP003252 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:29:37 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.9]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609182937.JBQA16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:29:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.9]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609182935.TFVX4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:29:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42A88A89.1050104@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:29:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Mayonnaise and saliva References: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> <42A830D0.3020006@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>Is it true that painting the underside of your house eaves light blue >>will confuse wasps, making them think it's the sky and thus not build >>nests there? >> >> >Dunno; I'd ask my local extension service if I were you. Or possibly >ask a wasp entomologist, if you know any. > > I don't really have to know since I don't plan on doing it. I was just wondering about it since Felder Rushing and Dr. Dirt were talking about it as I was driving to Starkville Tuesday morning. They both said they'd always heard it, but neither of them had tried it. They were also talking about the good things wasps can do -- can't remember now what those good things were -- something like eating bugs that hurt plants maybe. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 13:34:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59IXsee006082 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:33:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:34:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB209C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:33:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2862280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:33:54 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59IXrIT004175 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:33:54 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-212.gwi.net [216.195.165.212]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j59IXodm017264; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:33:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050609143311.01c0df50@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:33:47 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050609111126.02e5b2c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050609111126.02e5b2c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:12 PM 6/9/2005, Betty Clark wrote: >Where's Marty Do you mean geographically or philosophically? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 13:34:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59IXuee006084 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:33:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:34:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB208A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:33:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2862287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:33:55 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59IXtGe004186 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:33:55 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.9]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609183355.JHKL16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:33:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.9]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609183355.TJAV4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:33:55 -0400 Message-ID: <42A88B8B.3020006@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:33:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >1) Don't run it while it's in this condition; it may well overheat. > > There is little need to run it since it does no good. It did stay turned on all night the night it died. I was asleep and am not sure exactly when it died. It was a quiet death. >2) Although there are all sorts of "sealed for life bearings" and the >like unoilable things out there, in practice almost all of them can be >oiled. But you certainly can't do it while it's attached to the >ceiling the way it is. Taking it down, and then taking it apart is >probably not the sort of thing you want to be doing. > > No since that would mean hiring somebody to reinstall it, which is the most expensive part of fan acquisition. I like taking things apart and oiling them or cleaning them. I remember my great pride when I resuscitated the cd-player I found in the garbage in Japan. But, as I said, the problem would be with the taking down of the fan since that would mean the putting up also. I'd rather buy a new one since I think this one is exceptionally ugly anyway. >4) Ceiling fans are so cheap these days ("anymore"?) that it's >probably much better and easier to just buy and install a new one. > > Yes. Installation is the part that's not cheap, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 13:35:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59IZgee006296 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:35:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:35:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB205F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:35:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2862410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:35:42 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59IZgtp004419 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:35:42 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.9]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609183542.JJSN16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:35:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.9]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609183541.TKKG4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:35:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42A88BF5.50108@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:35:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question References: <200506091659.j59Gx6aL021753@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506091659.j59Gx6aL021753@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >Or go to the manufactuers web site or call them. > I didn't see any identification on it, though you'd think that somewhere there would be a hint of the manufacturer. Maybe it's hidden inside it somewhere. I find it odd that people moving out of houses don't leave all the pertinent manuals that go with things staying in the house. I'm very careful to do that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 13:39:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59Icwee006633 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:38:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:39:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB20E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:38:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2862811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:38:58 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59IcvtZ004925 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:38:57 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.9]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609183858.JNSU16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:38:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.9]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609183857.TMVA4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:38:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42A88CBB.9030000@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:38:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > If I'm going to attend this, I'm going to need: > > (1) A firm date, time, and location, and I need to reply to some e-mail from Stephanie anyway. I'll ask her whether it's firm yet. > (2) One or more tributes, eulogies, or appropriate comments from > Wordslers. I convinced abht to send one to Stephanie. I think she has already sent it. The idea was that it would be there in case a Wordsler didn't make it, but the idea is also that it would be much better for you to read it than for a stranger to read it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 13:58:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59IwBee008716 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:58:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:58:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB2158@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:58:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2864462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:58:10 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59Iw7Cq008269; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:58:08 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68299318; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:58:03 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050609115758.026aead0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:59:18 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <42A88CBB.9030000@maynor.net> References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A88CBB.9030000@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:38 AM 6/9/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > >>If I'm going to attend this, I'm going to need: >> >>(1) A firm date, time, and location, and > >I need to reply to some e-mail from Stephanie anyway. I'll ask her >whether it's firm yet. > >>(2) One or more tributes, eulogies, or appropriate comments from >>Wordslers. > >I convinced abht to send one to Stephanie. I think she has already >sent it. The idea was that it would be there in case a Wordsler didn't >make it, but the idea is also that it would be much better for you to >read it than for a stranger to read it. I sent a couple of photos to Stephanie. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 15:49:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59Knbee022245 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:49:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 15:49:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB2609@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:49:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2873655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:49:37 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j59Kdai1026598 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:39:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 27915 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Jun 2005 20:39:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:39:36 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a bite of the Dill Pickle Message-ID: <20050609203936.GA25703@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050609084974546179@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050609084974546179@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 10:49:18AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/9/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > "At the Dill Pickle Club, scene in Chicago of poetry readings, one-act > > plays, and other excruciating evenings of advanced culture, Hecht once > > engaged Maxwell Bodenheim over the question, 'That People Who Attend > > Literary Debates Are Imbeciles.' Hecht began by announcing that the > > affirmative side rested, Bodenheim followed with 'You win,' and the two > > men walked off with the evening's receipts." > > > > > > I love my job! > > That sounds like something Tushar would do... What? Go to a "scene" for "advanced culture"? Get real ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 16:13:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59LDfee025639 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:13:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 16:13:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB2709@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:12:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2875946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:12:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j59L2Paj030107 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:02:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 38007 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Jun 2005 21:02:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:02:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service Message-ID: <20050609210225.GC25703@words-l.org> References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050609111126.02e5b2c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609143311.01c0df50@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050609143311.01c0df50@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:33:47PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 02:12 PM 6/9/2005, Betty Clark wrote: > > >Where's Marty > > Do you mean geographically or philosophically? Well, morally he sure is pretty damn leprous ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 16:13:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59LDfee025638 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:13:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 16:13:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB2669@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:53:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2874020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:53:40 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j59KheA5027219 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:43:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 29150 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Jun 2005 20:43:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:43:39 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a bite of the Dill Pickle Message-ID: <20050609204339.GB25703@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:56:31AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I was going to suggest that but I was afraid I would be accused of not > reading headders. There is no accusation ... regular email users who don't read important headers--which may not include you--are ... sapienti satis ... Let's just say that that kind of omission is not compensated for by reading X-cutesy-nonsense headers ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 17:25:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59MPpee001594 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:25:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:25:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB28F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:25:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2880909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:25:50 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59MPoQ9008020 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:25:50 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.124]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609222550.SNAF2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:25:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.124]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609222549.ZDZU8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:25:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:25:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I sent e-mail to my Starkville lunch friends about the ceiling-fan matter but didn't get a reply until after I had already taken action. I just wrote a long reply to that group, starting with the story of my celing-fan purchase and then moving to a digital-camera question. Since I was about to write y'all about both matters, I'll just quote what I just wrote to the Starkville people. The Frank I address at the beginning is not FWP, btw. This Frank is a sociologist who is at home recuperating from surgery and who wrote a long, detailed reply to my fan question, talking about his experiences in having to clean dirt-dobbers out of a porch fan, how to check the balance, etc. etc. If you're not interested in ceiling-fan talk but might have an answer re megapixels, please skip the first paragraph but read the second one. I want to know whether it's really true that anything higher than 2 megapixels is pointless if your pictures are online only. ********* I like it when you're home in bed, Frank! Your detailed advice seems quite good to me. The only problem is that I asked the question on Words-L also and got several immediate replies, all of which said that I should buy a new fan. So I just went to Home Depot and did so. The fan is sitting in the back seat of my car now, where it may sit for a long time while I'm trying to figure out who to hire to install it. Home Depot would have installed it for a minimum of $65, which the salesman and I both thought a bit high for what should be an extremely simple job -- one I could almost do myself except that I've heard it's quite difficult to hold a fan up while attaching wires at the same time, and I'd worry that I might not get it securely hung -- that it might come tumbling down in the middle of the night and chop me up or in the middle of the day and chop Spencer up. (Why Spencer snoozes on the bed during the day but shuns me at night I still don't know. If Bernard is looking down from doggy heaven, I'm sure he's finding Spencer quite weird -- and is no doubt chuckling when I talk about him to Spencer, telling Spencer what Bernard did or didn't do -- how Bernard didn't eat even part of a couch, much less a whole couch, etc. etc.) But now I have another question. This is a continuation of the discussion Paul, Patrick, Alyson, and I had in the cafeteria Tuesday about digital cameras. I mentioned that I'm thinking that the time has come to upgrade, now that I'm becoming obsessed with taking cemetery pictures, many of which are in a "featured position" as cemetery cover-shots on Find-a-Grave. So I did some online research early this afternoon and then decided that when going to Home Depot for ceiling-fan shopping, I should first stop by Circuit City and Best Buy and eyeball some cameras. I did that (and found for the umpteenth time that the people who work at Best Buy are much friendlier and more helpful than the people who work at Circuit City). But finally here's the question: The nice young woman at Best Buy said that for e-mailing pictures or putting them on websites, there was no point in having anything higher than 2 megapixels -- that all online stuff was 2 max. Is that true? If so, there's no point in my doing any camera shopping since all of my picture life is online. My feeble little printer isn't up to printing pictures (and has only a b&w cartridge), and I rarely have any need or desire to print pictures anyway. Not needing a new camera would be a good thing since (1) I was looking at $200+ cameras and have other ways I could use that money, and (2) I feel bonded with my little camera. Some of the pictures I've taken with it are quite good, imho, though others suck. I don't know how much that has to do with the camera and how much with me. Of my cemetery pictures, for example, I like this one: http://tinyurl.com/dz4ej and this one: http://tinyurl.com/bx85c (Those aren't necessarily my top favorites -- they're just ones I'd thought about lately.) But look at this sucky one: http://tinyurl.com/dh7bk That one was taken on a dark, gloomy, drizzly day, but look at this one I took yesterday (of a cemetery in Ridgeland that Wallace Killgreas had told me about) -- a picture taken on a beautiful day of a pretty cemetery that looks like merde in this sucky picture: http://tinyurl.com/8pcsr I guess a fancier camera wouldn't change anything -- that it's more likely my basic ineptitude. Final subject of this too-long message: If any of you are planning to contribute to MPB, make sure to do it tomorrow night. I'll be part of the phone bank again. Am not really looking forward to it. I hate telephones (though answering them isn't nearly as traumatic as initiating calls, and I'll know tomorrow night where to sit at the table to make sure my phone rings the least). And I'm not even a tv fan. I'm into what I still prefer to call PRM. ************* -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 17:48:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59MmIee003860 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:48:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:48:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB29BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:48:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2881919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:48:18 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59MmHxf009983 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:48:17 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.124]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609224818.FYEH22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:48:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.124]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050609224817.MFCO13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:48:17 -0400 Message-ID: <42A8C730.6070809@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:48:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > afternoon and then decided that when going to Home Depot for ceiling-fan > shopping, I should first stop by Circuit City and Best Buy and eyeball > some cameras. I did that (and found for the umpteenth time that the I should send a ps to my Starkville friends apologizing for my . I had to laugh when reading what I just posted and thinking about how I've become. To do what I did in about an hour this afternoon would take a whole day for somebody living in Starkville. There's a Home Depot in Tupelo, which means a little over two hours round-trip. But the closest Circuit City or Best Buy, afaik, would be here, meaning over four hours round-trip -- just driving time, I mean, not counting the time spent in the stores. City living does have its advantages. But then there are also disadvantages. One of the lunch friends I saw Tuesday had gotten in late Monday night from a month in France (doing quarky stuff at Toulouse). His wife, meanwhile, had gotten home last week from taking students to Spain and had had to leave for a conference of some kind a couple of days before his return from France. So she drove to the airport and left the car in the parking lot there unlocked and with the keys in the glove-compartment so that he could upon returning from France go get in the car, find the keys in the glove-compartment, and drive home. And he did. People in Jackson don't do things that way. (Then again, I did discover upon returning from Starkville late Tuesday that I had left the back door unlocked. But my fierce watch-dog was in the yard.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 18:33:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j59NXWee008319 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:33:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:33:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB2A6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:33:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2883749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:33:32 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j59NNWKN014282 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:23:32 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j59NNETZ022395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:23:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:23:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: condo handymen Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One of the many advantages of my condo association is that we have a handyman who is very, very handy. He does some things for no charge - change light bulbs in high ceilings, etc. For other things, he is available at $30 an hour with no minimum. He is completely trustworthy - I let him come in and work whether I am here or not. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 19:29:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A0Sjee013903 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:28:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:28:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB2B7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:28:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2885693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:28:44 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A0SiEv020444 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:28:44 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.124]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610002844.KIYP16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:28:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.124]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610002843.XCQM11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:28:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42A8DEBA.5090101@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:28:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: condo handymen References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >One of the many advantages of my condo association is that we have a >handyman who is very, very handy. He does some things for no charge - > > I should hope so. If I were paying money every month to belong to an association, I would expect some in return for my dues. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 19:31:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A0Vpee014273 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:31:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:31:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB2B99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:31:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2886061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:31:46 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A0VjHQ020918 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:31:45 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.124]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610003146.KKVB16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:31:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.124]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610003145.XDSF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:31:45 -0400 Message-ID: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:31:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Camera Answer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I got a reply from the person in Starkville recuperating from surgery. He allowed as how the Best Buy salesperson was correct -- that there is no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels unless you want to print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera gurus think also? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 19:40:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A0e2ee015004 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:40:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:40:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB2BC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:40:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2886447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:40:02 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A0e1Ge021520 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:40:01 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050610004001011003sepne>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:40:01 +0000 Message-ID: <42A8E159.8020501@istori.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:39:53 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > a picture taken on a beautiful day of a pretty > cemetery that looks like merde in this sucky picture: > > http://tinyurl.com/8pcsr For this one, you needed to set the camera's brightness to the cemetery, not the sky. You should be able to point your camera at something that's the right brightness, then press the shutter button down halfway, then move the camera to frame what you want to shoot, then press the button the rest of the way. (That sets focus, too, so point at something about the same distance, or if your picture is just far away like this one, make sure your brightness target is at least 30 feet or so away.) In this shot, to set the brightness I would have aimed at the front of the left gate column, or somewhere at the grass beyond it. (Someday, cameras will use adaptive brightness over the whole picture, and this photo would have come out fine -- but not yet.) 2 megapixels is fine for web stuff, sure. More megapixels: * Lets other people make prints, even if you don't want to. 2mp is okay for 3x5 or 4x6 prints, but will start to degrade when printed bigger than that. * Lets other people "zoom in" close and see details, if your photo hosting allows viewers to see larger versions. Viewers do look at the large size versions of photos on Flickr sometimes, for instance. * Preserves the scene in more detail for future generations. * Lets you (or others) crop a photo for better composition, and still have decent resolution. So you're probably okay for now. If you buy a new camera today, though, it should have at least 3-4 megapixels, unless it's a cell phone. ObFlickr: If you like taking pictures, Flickr is a really cool participatory photo community, and worth checking out. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 20:07:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A17See019486 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:07:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:07:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB2C03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:07:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2887121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:07:28 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A0vSMS023049 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:57:28 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5A0vA2Q014664 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:57:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:57:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: life in a dorm room Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So - have I mentioned that I will be living in a dorm at Creighton? I have stayed in dorms only during conferences. My first dorm experience was on Prince Edward Island - and one of my favorite memories is of Raven Ioor McDavid, Jr., walking from a bathroom to HIS dorm room in his bathrobe. But such eperiences were limited to stays of one week or less. But I digress. I will be in a - 2 bedrooms (hence a suite-mate) and a small common area with refrigerator and microwave - and a shared bath. My main concern is for COFFEE - a first-thing musthave, so far as I am concerned. But I do not want to lug a coffee-maker to Omaha. I have on hand a few single-pack instant coffees - most left from Spain, hence European, hence a bit more drinkable than US instant coffee that comes in large jars. NO dishes are supplied - so the question is - what do I need to take? Something to heat water in and a cup/mug and single filter thingie - with filters and ground coffee? And the left-over instant? Once I have that first cup, I am good to go if necessary, so I do not plan to cook in the room. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 20:08:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A18Zee019632 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:08:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:08:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB2C41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:08:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2887411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:08:35 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A18Z1w024021 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:08:35 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-212.gwi.net [216.195.165.212]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5A18TsM073075; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:08:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:08:26 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:31 PM 6/9/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I got a reply from the person in Starkville recuperating from surgery. >He allowed as how the Best Buy salesperson was correct -- that there is >no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels unless you want to >print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera gurus think also? no. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 20:22:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A1Mnee020937 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:22:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:22:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB2C35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:22:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2887751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:22:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A1MmKQ025295 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:22:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so308470wri for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.28.69 with SMTP id b69mr735092wrb; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:22:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=r8lphOlKsuZYKp2jn0sTWOAYZFlICjFcdW8YN8C1BNCxmhfUg/I0aRdxr2bPU8eTXF15rfIm/soL0RvMX0TEPVQalKSJyH5QXUM+2bv7rmh7MCs5JezfljoBB13NJSXuc4L3RDq5XXGJK7O8C7V9cMTZ3c3suPofxckYNXEsGyg= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:22:47 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life in a dorm room In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5A1Mnee020937 > > NO dishes are supplied - so the question is - what do I need to take? > Something to heat water in and a cup/mug and single filter thingie - with > filters and ground coffee? And the left-over instant? > Bethany > Just take the mug. You can heat water in the mug in the microwave. You can buy instant coffee bags. They are just like tea bags. They make passable coffee if you add some cream to it. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 20:25:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A1P7ee021066 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:25:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:25:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB2C3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:25:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2887801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:25:06 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A1P6D0025439 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:25:06 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.124]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610012505.LOSM16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:25:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.124]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610012505.XRWV11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:25:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42A8EBF0.8070403@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:25:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> <42A8E159.8020501@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42A8E159.8020501@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > For this one, you needed to set the camera's brightness to the > cemetery, not the sky. You should be able to point your camera at > something that's the right brightness, then press the shutter button > down halfway, then move the camera to frame what you want to shoot, then > press the button the rest of the way. (That sets focus, too, so point > at something about the same distance, or if your picture is just far > away like this one, make sure your brightness target is at least 30 feet > or so away.) Have I told you lately that I love you? This posting is not only a keeper but maybe even a print-outer -- and I rarely print anything. > * Lets other people "zoom in" close and see details, if your photo > hosting allows viewers to see larger versions. Viewers do look at the > large size versions of photos on Flickr sometimes, for instance. Find-a-Grave makes the pictures larger if clicking on them. But wouldn't my submitting of them automatically cut them into 2 megapixels? The person at Best Buy today made it sound as if e-mailing anything larger would cause servers to crash. > * Lets you (or others) crop a photo for better composition, and still > have decent resolution. What does this mean (in relation to pixels)? I crop almost all pictures. My routine is to dump them onto my computer via the flash-card reader -- into a subdirectory named something like "Today" -- in the "My Pictures" directory, which is where the software suggests and is fine with me since I don't care where they are. Then after the dumping, I open Lview and go to them picture by picture, cropping and saving them to my chosen directory elsewhere. I also routinely resize them to 600x800 before cropping. > ObFlickr: If you like taking pictures, Flickr is a really cool > participatory photo community, and worth checking out. What's a photo community? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 20:31:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A1Vdee021626 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:31:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:31:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB2C84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:31:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2887922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:31:39 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A1VdLV026007 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:31:39 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.124]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610013139.LRVG16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:31:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.124]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610013138.XTMB11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:31:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42A8ED79.6020404@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:31:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life in a dorm room References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >So - have I mentioned that I will be living in a dorm at Creighton? I have >stayed in dorms only during conferences. My first dorm experience was on >Prince Edward Island - and one of my favorite memories is of Raven Ioor >McDavid, Jr., walking from a bathroom to HIS dorm room in his bathrobe. > > Hey -- I've not only seen him in a bathrobe -- I've seen his catheter bag being emptied. >NO dishes are supplied - so the question is - what do I need to take? >Something to heat water in and a cup/mug and single filter thingie - with >filters and ground coffee? And the left-over instant? > > I bet Nebraska sells coffee-makers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 20:32:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A1Wpee021701 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:32:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:32:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00676581@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:32:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2887946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:32:51 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A1WoCd026116 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:32:50 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.124]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610013250.LSKT16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:32:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.124]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610013250.XTUE11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:32:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:32:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels unless you want to >> print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera gurus think also? > > no. So a higher megapixel camera would take better pictures for online use? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 20:39:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A1d8ee022272 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:39:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:39:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB2CAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:39:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2888091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:39:08 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A1d73L026559 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:39:08 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so178993wri for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.48 with SMTP id e48mr674894wre; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m2El0BTXQHDUqSU9rv1fwVbodBQgnYSQ92csmRfsUd5WMQ+moGZKfXM0rCmhZ/O5feobsC4D88xVox9O243Y+Qbbidc649W1xd+h7g2upGe5nsQ1zsTH++Mm0rQ4MlEyjWRFhezmP+EXPiqoAlc4sFFzBLcnHtNn3yUkoXROfCk= Message-ID: <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:39:07 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5A1d8ee022272 On 6/9/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > >> no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels unless you want to > >> print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera gurus think also? > > > > no. > > So a higher megapixel camera would take better pictures for online use? yes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 20:52:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A1qCee024703 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:52:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:52:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB2CB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:42:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2888131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:42:11 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A1gA4e026890 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:42:11 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111615290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:42:10 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050609183859.027e4710@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:43:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:32 PM 6/9/2005, you wrote: >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >>>no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels unless you want to >>>print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera gurus think also? >> >>no. > >So a higher megapixel camera would take better pictures for online use? Yes. If I look at photos on line taken with my old 2 megapixel camera and look at photos taken with my 4 megapixel camera, there is a discernable difference even to my eye. You get more detail. You used my camera, Natalie. Did you like it? You can do a lot with it but you can also just set it on automatic and shoot away. You took some nice photos. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 20:55:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A1taee024964 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:55:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:55:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB2CCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:55:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2888475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:55:35 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A1tZ92028055 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:55:35 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.124]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610015535.CUOO13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:55:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.124]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610015534.XLJH11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:55:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42A8F315.9020605@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:55:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >>So a higher megapixel camera would take better pictures for online use? >> >> > yes. > > So what Pete said was wrong? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 20:58:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A1w1ee025195 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:58:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:58:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB2C9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:58:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2888549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:58:01 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A1w1W1028312 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:58:01 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.124]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610015801.CYQH13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:58:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.124]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610015800.XNBI11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:58:00 -0400 Message-ID: <42A8F3A7.5060506@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:57:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050609183859.027e4710@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050609183859.027e4710@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> So a higher megapixel camera would take better pictures for online use? > > Yes. If I look at photos on line taken with my old 2 megapixel camera > and > look at photos taken with my 4 megapixel camera, there is a discernable > difference even to my eye. You get more detail. Speak, Pete! These people are saying something different from what (I thought) you said. > You used my camera, > Natalie. Did you like it? It was fine, but I was simply clicking. And the pictures I took that you put online didn't look any better than the pictures I take with my 2.1. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 21:04:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A24Qee026039 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:04:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:04:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB2CFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:04:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2888835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:04:25 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A24Pok028823 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:04:25 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-212.gwi.net [216.195.165.212]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5A24KS6050197; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:04:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050609220356.01beb698@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:04:10 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A8F315.9020605@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <42A8F315.9020605@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:55 PM 6/9/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > >>>So a higher megapixel camera would take better pictures for online use? >>> >>yes. >> >So what Pete said was wrong? Not necessarily. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 21:53:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A2rhee031331 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:53:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:53:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB2EE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:53:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2892906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:53:43 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A2rgSl003534 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:53:42 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111629597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:53:40 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050609195355.02763d60@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:54:47 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question In-Reply-To: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You don't need a new camera, Natalie. Be happy you don't have to spend the money. Wait until next year, better and cheaper ones will be out. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:07:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A372ee000324 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:07:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:07:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB30CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:07:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:07:02 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A371ea006108 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:07:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22584448 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:07:20 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:07:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:06:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <578394584.20050609210657@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Wicked In-Reply-To: <20050609050633.GA63813@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607102436bb9280@mail.gmail.com> <20050607190021.GA76559@words-l.org> <20050608024540.GB47131@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050607200214.02a5d0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050608030812.GA58870@words-l.org> <1921175150.20050608132613@gailndan.com> <20050608214835.GA36113@words-l.org> <663443957.20050608224019@gailndan.com> <20050609050633.GA63813@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 221, in=79275, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/8/2005, 11:06 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> I have already indicated that I do not have access DMH> to the OED. DMH> Whatever. BFD. But you're still smart enough to know that isn't the only definition. And anyone has access to OED if they try hard enough. If you're still in Chitown, there are a number of places you can access it, including Chicago Public Library. But if you really wish I'll copy and send the entire entry. >> I'll expect a >> two page essay, one inch >> margins all around, your choice of 8.5x11 or A4 >> size paper, single >> spaced, ten point Times New Roman. DMH> Single spaced ten point ... What a nerd! I was playing the role of a linguistics professor. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:10:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3ABee000718 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:10:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:10:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB30E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:10:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:10:11 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3AB2M006316 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:10:11 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22584741 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:10:30 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:10:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:10:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <183681361.20050609211012@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: writing numbers In-Reply-To: <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 221, in=79277, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/9/2005, 5:50 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But I would if talking about NM> the Starkville NM> Community Theatre I'm assuming that when you use that reference you're using the proper name of the organization, with the spelling that they prefer to use. If that is correct, I don't know what it proves about your usage in that context. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:15:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3FHee001401 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:15:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:15:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB313E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:15:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:15:16 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3FGgA006894 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:15:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22340577 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:37:18 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:15:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:15:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <123672327.20050609211517@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Mayonnaise and saliva In-Reply-To: <42A830D0.3020006@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> <42A830D0.3020006@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 223, in=80196, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/9/2005, 6:06 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Is it true that painting the underside of your house NM> eaves light blue NM> will confuse wasps, making them think it's the sky NM> and thus not build NM> nests there? I'd doubt it, and I did a couple searches that neither confirmed nor denied. But some old wives' tales are true..... dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:19:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3JFee001907 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:19:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:19:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3162@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:19:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:19:14 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3JE4p007267 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:19:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22585580 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:19:33 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:19:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:19:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1663867474.20050609211915@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CU In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 221, in=79287, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/9/2005, 9:34 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Thanks for the zoo tip - other than the zoo tip I BKD> know zip about BKD> Creighton, except that some college world BKD> championship will be played BKD> there soon. Zoo isn't on campus, but well worth going to. Omaha also has the College World Series every June, the national championship games for college baseball (male). dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:22:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3M0ee002245 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:22:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:22:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3168@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:22:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:22:00 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3M0pJ007546 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:22:00 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 20D19D73FA124 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:21:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: The Camera Answer Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:21:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" To: Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: The Camera Answer On 6/9/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > >> no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels unless you want to > >> print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera gurus think also? For me, it depends upon how much detail you like in your pictures. Someone explained that a low megapixel shot of a brick building might show it as a rusty red color . . a higher megapixel would show the individual bricks. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:23:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3NLee002413 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:23:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:23:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB311B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:23:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:23:16 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3NFIT007603 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:23:16 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111635737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:23:14 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050609202327.027c5bc0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:24:19 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: CU In-Reply-To: <1663867474.20050609211915@gailndan.com> References: <1663867474.20050609211915@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:19 PM 6/9/2005, you wrote: >6/9/2005, 9:34 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >BKD> Thanks for the zoo tip - other than the zoo tip I >BKD> know zip about >BKD> Creighton, except that some college world >BKD> championship will be played >BKD> there soon. > >Zoo isn't on campus, but well worth going to. Omaha also has the >College World Series every June, the national championship games for >college baseball (male). > >dan Michigan won the College Softball tournament. Beat UCLA in 12 innings. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:24:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3OBee002531 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:24:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:24:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB311C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:24:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:24:11 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3OAWn007806 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:24:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22586042 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:24:29 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:24:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:24:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16802142.20050609212412@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Mayonnaise and saliva In-Reply-To: <42A8812D.2070304@istori.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050608103348ac9a5a@mail.gmail.com> <42A830D0.3020006@maynor.net> <42A8812D.2070304@istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 221, in=79291, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/9/2005, 11:49 AM, Peter Kaminski wrote: PK> Here are bluebirders discussing wasp deterrence, PK> including slippery PK> coatings like aluminum foil or paraffin; Hey, wasp poison works fine for me. I find a nest on the eaves or fence and give it a zap with the can of foam. End of story. Takes about two minutes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:28:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3SAee003089 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:28:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:28:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3129@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:28:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:28:10 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3S9YA008117 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:28:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22341763 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:50:12 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:28:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:28:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19010026975.20050609212810@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: A Ceiling Fan Question In-Reply-To: <42A88BF5.50108@maynor.net> References: <200506091659.j59Gx6aL021753@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42A88BF5.50108@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 223, in=80203, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/9/2005, 12:35 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I find it odd that people moving out of NM> houses don't leave NM> all the pertinent manuals that go with things NM> staying in the house. I'm NM> very careful to do that. Yeah, but you're a scholar. Most people don't save any of that kind of stuff. I've yet to find things like that left. Plus, things that are "built in" when the house is built may not have any to leave. And a ceiling fan may have no more of a manual than one page showing which wires to hook where and how big the screws for mounting should be. I'd be surprised if one for a ceiling fan had much more. Check Home Depot or Lowes and see what kinds of manuals come with them. Minimal I'll bet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:33:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3XJee003713 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:33:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:33:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3189@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:33:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:33:19 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3XILH008505 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:33:18 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22342266 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:55:21 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:33:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:33:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <902114944.20050609213319@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 223, in=80204, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/9/2005, 6:31 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> there is NM> no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels NM> unless you want to NM> print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera NM> gurus think also? Probably reasonable, but most of them these days will be more than that anyway, unless you're trying to buy some really cheap shit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:36:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3anee004215 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:36:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:36:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3143@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:36:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:36:48 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3alWm008754 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:36:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22531942 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:45:11 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:37:12 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:36:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1264501310.20050609213648@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question In-Reply-To: <42A8EBF0.8070403@maynor.net> References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> <42A8E159.8020501@istori.com> <42A8EBF0.8070403@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 224, in=93009, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/9/2005, 7:25 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> The person at Best Buy today made it NM> sound as if e-mailing NM> anything larger would cause servers to crash. Nonsense. However, many people have email accounts that are limited to 3 or 5 or 10 megabytes, so that can be a problem. Also people still on dialup wouldn't want to wait for download (either as attachment or from webpage) of something that big. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:38:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3c8ee004368 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:38:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:38:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB314B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:38:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:38:08 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3c7eT008869 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:38:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22342705 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:00:10 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:38:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:38:09 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1786545127.20050609213809@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: life in a dorm room In-Reply-To: <42A8ED79.6020404@maynor.net> References: <42A8ED79.6020404@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 223, in=80206, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/9/2005, 7:31 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I bet Nebraska sells coffee-makers. Yup. Probably even in the Creighton bookstore. And needless to say, a city of a half million has any number of malls, stores, etc. But a cheap one and leave it as a gift for some future guest. Might cost you ten bucks for cheap electric perk. Less at the Sally Store. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 9 22:38:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A3chee004416 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:38:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:38:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067671F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:38:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:38:42 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A3cfN7008907 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:38:41 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22532126 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:47:05 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:39:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:38:42 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 224, in=93010, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/9/2005, 7:32 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> So a higher megapixel camera would take better NM> pictures for online use? Would take better, more detailed pictures for all purposes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 00:13:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A5DHee015325 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:13:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:13:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB33C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 1:03:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2903035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:03:17 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5A53GCc016881 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:03:16 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5A53Fuo019465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:03:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:03:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Theater/Theatre In-Reply-To: <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't use "our" forms, but I do write "theatre" more often than > "theater." It's interesting to me how many local theaters/res in the US > use the British spelling in their official names. I think I've > mentioned that before. I don't think I'd spell it theatre if talking > about a movie theater. But I would if talking about the Starkville > Community Theatre or maybe if talking (i.e., writing) about getting > theatre tickets in NY or something. I think movie theaters in the U.S. started using "theatre" in their names in the 1920s, because it was more pretentious, and because at the time British stuff (Tudor architecture, English county street names, etc.) was considered high-class. I think also the phrase "the theater" (spelled in that fashion, but perhaps with a slight British inflection rather than the hard Midwestern "ur" ending) has come to mean Broadway, or at least, the concept of live plays with professional actors. Here in Ann Arbor, we have a 1920s movie palace which is owned by the city (bought to save it from destruction), and is now operated by a nonprofit group as a venue for art movies, community orchestras, wedding receptions and such. I'm on the email list for the schedule, which comes to me as "Michigan Theatre" but which I file in a mail folder called "michigantheater". Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 03:12:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5A8Bsee003273 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:11:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:12:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB3632@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 3:51:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:51:52 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5A7ppuN030775 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:51:51 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061009500920404 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:50:09 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:51:50 +0200 Message-ID: <42A94695.1050000@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:51:49 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2005 07:51:50.0136 (UTC) FILETIME=[42626F80:01C56D91] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 10.06.2005 03:32: > clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >>> no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels unless you want to >>> print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera gurus think also? >> >> >> no. > > > So a higher megapixel camera would take better pictures for online use? Yes. Unless it is a bad quality high resolution camera. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 05:38:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AAcYee024744 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:38:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:38:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3777@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 6:38:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2911172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:38:34 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AAcXgf015389 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:38:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29C497D4F for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:38:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17555-05 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:38:31 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F5297CD0 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:38:31 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42A96DD4.9070300@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:39:16 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life in a dorm room References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.516 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >NO dishes are supplied - so the question is - what do I need to take? >Something to heat water in and a cup/mug and single filter thingie - with >filters and ground coffee? > Haven't you ever drunk press jug coffee? And, to go one more step back in the history (actually, two steps, for the press jugs seem to be, meanwhile well forgotten, new things): the simple old method of coffee making: put ground coffee on the bottom of a mug or jug and pour hot water on it. Let it stay for a while, and drink (or pour it into another cup before drinking, but that would mean one more cup to be taken with you). Sure, instant coffee is more convenient on a trip but if you do not like its taste why not use the primitive method. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:11:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABBdee029737 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:11:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:11:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3803@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:11:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2870669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:11:39 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABBcjM010799 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:11:38 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so581218wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.2 with SMTP id f2mr440909wra; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:11:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=llzfyzGuf598i78RGBe+/z8lnb8U12jtWxV4RIT73pJCGGDQchsQKYmfAKVF279t5wyCHBCoxsTeYZmi8WBnjO3+XaaUS7pYxwjZBewAyHjUHf7nkrQ3CzUeyqisig8o1QZCvmHVvXxVcStupo2cOjiNQmdI9X6N7+ooSUHmOf0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:11:38 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question In-Reply-To: <19010026975.20050609212810@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506091659.j59Gx6aL021753@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42A88BF5.50108@maynor.net> <19010026975.20050609212810@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ABBdee029737 > > Yeah, but you're a scholar. Most people don't save any of that kind > of stuff. I've yet to find things like that left. Plus, things that > are "built in" when the house is built may not have any to leave. --Dan The person we bought this house from in Maine left the manuals for all the kitchen appliances. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:16:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABFxee030178 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:16:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:16:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB3851@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:15:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2870819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:15:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABFxcT011298 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:15:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so582545wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.8.62 with SMTP id 62mr981352wrh; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:15:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KwiW77AqW0osm3r+Gv6sUl8iz5t8kYWSBN3ZgDiFB5pPeCNAg1Q8oV5xlXNEiOiLgttbmj1vqCTkgr9Fiz4uPqY+3RjL2xxDsrfQJCNPgzhL/IcNmkPju4KrZVIEUQfEyVFb92PKax3OgzFiGqH1M7+zmfGPfzfyQLS03RgPz9s= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:15:58 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question In-Reply-To: <42A889F6.9020208@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> <42A889F6.9020208@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ABFxee030178 > > A handyman is all one needs for most ceiling-fan installing. > -- Natalie Ah, yes. I forget. One can easily hire a handyman in the South. Bruce and April, of the Opera House Internet Cafe, spent three months in Lafayette, Louisiana this winter. Bruce told me when he got back that he had a new theory about a well-working society. He noted that it was so much easier to get things done in Louisiana because there is an underclass, unlike Maine. One can easily find someone to cut the grass, help move a few boxes, work the fast food joints, and most other things in Louisiana, unlike Maine. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:35:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABZRee032449 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:35:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:35:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00676D83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:35:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:35:27 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5ABZQev013261 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:35:27 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061013334421832 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:33:44 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:35:25 +0200 Message-ID: <42A97AFD.7070505@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:35:25 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Fjord fun References: <42A96DD4.9070300@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42A96DD4.9070300@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2005 11:35:25.0655 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EA82E70:01C56DB0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oslo lies at the head of an almost 150 miles long fjord - the Oslo fjord. Actually it is not the end since it turns round a corner and goes back south for another 20 miles before it hits a dead end, but that is not important. The important thing is that like Bar Harbor Oslo is a place with a salt sea harbour. This morning I bicycled along the sea front since I iwshed to buy some fresh shrimp for dinner. (The shrimp is boiled on board as the boat comes into the harbour in the morning, and I have access to a refrigerator at work.) This morning I also saw a new visitor: http://www.soic.se/4.1e228bcf782be0db97fff408.html I love watching boats and ships in the harbour - and out at sea! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:41:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABfOee000450 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:41:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:41:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00676E3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:41:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:41:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABfO3X013870 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:41:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so590287wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.118.7 with SMTP id q7mr994370wrc; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:41:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bY6gwYwfmco7gG0adrbwXodK0X/C10Xe4TQcI5cWTlkFyakyrgYgvTqk1+1ETA8PbOI6Zwocpf9ZWW/2adRhEhb9N9heHdPaX82yswd5HckAeL8pAseSS4NLFeS3h6ksWQJQD6fjM0c+gZgZ1BFhyojMf6WCxEuO3QfevVEftqM= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:41:22 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fjord fun In-Reply-To: <42A97AFD.7070505@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A96DD4.9070300@akad.ee> <42A97AFD.7070505@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ABfOee000450 > > This morning I also saw a new visitor: > > http://www.soic.se/4.1e228bcf782be0db97fff408.html > > I love watching boats and ships in the harbour - and out at sea! > Espen > Wow. Beautiful boat! I saw from the M.S. Nordkapp web cam that it was raining yesterday in the Bergen/Alesund area. The Nordkapp sailed up the Geiranger Fjord. When it was at the head of the fjord I saw a cruise ship at anchor along with the Nordkapp. Must be the height of your tourist season and the height of the sun, when it shines. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:47:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABlnee001032 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:47:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:47:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00676C92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:47:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:47:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABlekf014435 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:47:40 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so592310wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.5 with SMTP id w5mr999667wrc; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:47:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=hcMIvWFyhqsQGp2UW5ZJ+ZjUVdLJy7G6Tr3HOpyMPJUfJpMTq2ChPj0ZCe4gj/Pz0RZaKWtycQgBhiVT6YyJ6BFGfZFDY+MJGdVii2ziPHghhdo8p98YGtTqdKu0Qa1Xx8nC5c9F/4XgAupZ+l39cnpFG5lkBqHKBz6KsZRtwRM= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:47:40 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: The nicest people Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ABlnee001032 Tuesday was my first day of work at the Inn this season. I worked from noon until nine. I baked cookies and a blueberry streusel coffee cake. I took two reservations, checked in four couples, finished the laundry, did a little ironing, put out tea and cookies, and made nice with the guests. I even convinced the young, neurosurgeon resident vacationing from Texas to go buy _Saturday_ by Ian McEwan because the lead character is a neurosurgeon and it's a very well-written book. Just before I left for the evening, I overheard Barry in the living room talking to a couple from one of the Carolinas. Barry was saying that they recently had an ugly guest from NYC. The Southern couple suggested that perhaps the further South the guest was from, the nicer the guest. I almost choked. Barry claimed that the nicest guests were from the Midwest (Wisconsin, Iowa, etc.) and asked me if I agreed. I just said that of course I would agree, being from the Midwest myself. I then said my goodbyes and got out of there before giving my unwanted opinion about the Sucky South. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:48:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABmFee001126 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:48:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:48:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00676E4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:48:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:48:15 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABmFkp014489 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:48:15 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610114815.RNBW16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:48:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610114814.RAT11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:48:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:48:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >> >> no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels unless you >> want to >> >> print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera gurus think also? > > For me, it depends upon how much detail you like > in your pictures. Someone explained that a low > megapixel shot of a brick building might show it > as a rusty red color . . a higher megapixel would show > the individual bricks. I'm confuseder and confuseder. Of course I want more detail in my pictures. This is what started me exploring a possible camera . But then I was told [what I said above] -- that unless I plan to print the pictures, there will be no more detail, no better quality -- that the extra megapixels will be totally wasted. Not totally trusting the young Best Buy clerk, though she did seem knowledgeable, I asked y'all about it, along with asking the Starkville lunch friends. Pete's reply seemed to agree with the BB clerk. So did the person in Starkville who replied last night. He said that he liked having a high-megapixel camera so that he could keep the "fat" versions to have printed to give to people who didn't do computers -- that he would "dumb down" the pixels for net use. Since my use is only net use, I don't understand why I would want to have to "dumb down" the pixels for every picture -- why there would be any point at all in having those extra megapixels. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:53:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABqtee001461 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:52:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:53:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB38B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:52:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:52:55 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABqsNR014888 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:52:54 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610115254.ROXD16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:52:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610115254.RXH11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:52:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42A97F14.1060408@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:52:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question References: <200506091659.j59Gx6aL021753@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42A88BF5.50108@maynor.net> <19010026975.20050609212810@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <19010026975.20050609212810@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >I'd be surprised if one for a ceiling fan had much more. Check Home >Depot or Lowes and see what kinds of manuals come with them. Minimal >I'll bet. > > I can check in the box sitting in the back seat of my car. I plan to de-car it today since there's no point in hauling it around. It will then sit in the garage while I'm pondering who to hire to install it. I wish Keith, the general contractor who has done lots of work for me, didn't live so far away. I sort of hate to get him to come all this distance for such a small job. I guess I could find something else for him to do -- like I noticed during some heavy rain recently that there seems to be a hole in the gutter above the front door -- that a stream of rain was coming down through it. But that isn't really anything I was planning on worrying about anytime soon. One thing I do plan to do at some point is have a plumber check the pipes -- check on why my water pressure is so low and how much it would cost to have the pipes replaced or whatever it is that would need to be done. But that's a big project and is one that I would want a real plumber for. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:54:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABsPee001566 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:54:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:54:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3888@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:54:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:54:25 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABsO7p015030 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:54:24 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610115424.RPJE16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:54:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610115424.SEM11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:54:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42A97F6E.4080501@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:54:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <902114944.20050609213319@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <902114944.20050609213319@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> there is >NM> no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels >NM> unless you want to >NM> print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera >NM> gurus think also? > >Probably reasonable, but most of them these days will be more than >that anyway, unless you're trying to buy some really cheap shit. > > The point of shopping was megapixels. If the above is true, then there's no point in shopping since my current camera is the max for net use. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:56:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABu7ee001721 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:56:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:56:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB388C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:56:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:56:01 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5ABu0VG015204 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:56:01 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061013541921985 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:54:19 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:55:59 +0200 Message-ID: <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:55:59 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2005 11:55:59.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E60E870:01C56DB3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 10.06.2005 13:48: > Doris Markland wrote: > >>> >> no point in buying a camera higher than 2 megapixels unless you >>> want to >>> >> print pictures. Is that what the Words-L camera gurus think also? >> >> >> For me, it depends upon how much detail you like >> in your pictures. Someone explained that a low >> megapixel shot of a brick building might show it >> as a rusty red color . . a higher megapixel would show >> the individual bricks. > > > I'm confuseder and confuseder. Of course I want more detail in my > pictures. This is what started me exploring a possible camera > . But then I was told [what I said above] -- that unless I > plan to print the pictures, there will be no more detail, no better > quality -- that the extra megapixels will be totally wasted. > > Not totally trusting the young Best Buy clerk, though she did seem > knowledgeable, I asked y'all about it, along with asking the Starkville > lunch friends. Pete's reply seemed to agree with the BB clerk. So did > the person in Starkville who replied last night. He said that he liked > having a high-megapixel camera so that he could keep the "fat" versions > to have printed to give to people who didn't do computers -- that he > would "dumb down" the pixels for net use. Since my use is only net use, > I don't understand why I would want to have to "dumb down" the pixels > for every picture -- why there would be any point at all in having those > extra megapixels. If you have many pixels you can choose the resolution you want to use on the net: sometimes a big picture - or an enlarged detail, sometimes a smaller version of the whole image scaled down to fit a certain size. If you have few pixels you can never really get any more out of the image. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:56:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABuSee001731 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:56:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:56:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00676E67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:56:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:56:27 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABkRn8014364 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:46:27 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5ABk9OJ029716 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:46:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:46:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: baseball Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: Omaha also has the College World Series every June, the national championship games for college baseball (male). Yes - Doug, my trainer at the therapy center I am going to right now for exercise, keeps me up to date on this. I did not know about it until he told me about it on TU. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:57:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABvBee001787 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:57:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:57:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB38DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:57:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:57:11 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABvBrG015359 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:57:11 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610115711.RQGQ16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:57:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610115710.SUE11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:57:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:57:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> So a higher megapixel camera would take better >NM> pictures for online use? > >Would take better, more detailed pictures for all purposes. > > ??? So what did your previous answer mean when you said that what the clerk told me about 2-megapixel max "seems reasonable"? What is confusing me is that I'd think that the answer to my original question would be simply yes or no -- either 2 megapixels is the max for online pictures or it isn't. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:58:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABwgee001952 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:58:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:58:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00676DBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:58:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:58:42 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABmflN014540 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:48:41 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5ABmOKc031157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:48:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:48:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: coffee Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for all the suggestions. I will probably buy an inexpensive coffee pot and leave it - and I have enough of these European individual instant coffee paks to get past day 1 or 2 if necessary. What's a Sally store? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 06:59:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ABxSee002095 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:59:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:59:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00676CB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 7:59:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:59:27 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABxRaE015486 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:59:27 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 101548559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:59:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9809A.40605@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:59:22 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > would "dumb down" the pixels for net use. Since my use is only net use, > I don't understand why I would want to have to "dumb down" the pixels > for every picture -- why there would be any point at all in having those > extra megapixels. Because it is nice to have the option to use them all for a picture or two that you might want to print. You can choose to use fewer pixels for your everyday picture taking. It should be a simple setting on the camera. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:07:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AC7jee003280 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:07:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:07:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00676DD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:07:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2872174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:07:45 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AC7jRR016364 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:07:45 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610120745.RVEO16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:07:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610120744.VNE11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:07:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9828E.8040603@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:07:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <42A94695.1050000@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42A94695.1050000@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: >> So a higher megapixel camera would take better pictures for online use? > > Yes. Unless it is a bad quality high resolution camera. Ok, so the bottom line we're getting to is that the Best Buy clerk was in error when she said that 2 megapixels was the max for online use. That means that I should not give up my shopping. I've already done the shopping really -- had pretty much decided on which camera to buy before doing my camera-eyeballing yesterday. Because I've been happy with my Canon Powershot A20 and because its higher-pixeled successors have good net reviews, the obvious choice seems to be to stick to the Powershot A series. Btw, another thing the clerk said in BB was that the Powershot A95 will be the last one to use compact flash cards -- that they're being phased out. Is that true? (That is an UNimportant question, btw. My curiosity about it is quite mild. It's not in the league with the earlier question about what she said since the earlier question is a biggy -- whether I would or wouldn't gain anything from a higher megapixel camera.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:16:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACGDee004378 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:16:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:16:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00676DEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:16:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2872450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:16:12 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACGCQK017341 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:16:12 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610121612.RYUN16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:16:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610121612.XON11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:16:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9848A.7050603@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:16:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> <42A889F6.9020208@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS re the "underclass" posting: The cheapest handypeople around here are Mexicans. My next-door neighbor hires them for everything, but she has communication problems since they don't speak English and she doesn't speak Spanish -- lots of pointing and other pantomiming occurs. It may be that they would constitute an "underclass" of sorts since some of them are problably illegal and without much choice of ways to make a living. Does Bar Harbor not have groups of Mexicans roaming around doing odd jobs for people? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:19:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACJfee004825 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:19:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:19:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00676CF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:19:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2872659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:19:41 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACJexj017901 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:19:40 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so602873wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.2 with SMTP id f2mr471217wra; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:19:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eCwC2ypw9g+khv5wcRf1e/plPgR/N4WYaBh4GJ3qr/+NXq1RbDKdsFxBR3y/14Nb2bSas+JfbGKneUnCvKkovhAtiHl+oC2PrPH4I6YL4OASDe+o91GopZBYNCLlsMkvlAcXJaKnRIaPH5hfemqlxwpTY8Nyx0dm5UhdjuLfLUo= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:19:40 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question In-Reply-To: <42A9848A.7050603@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> <42A889F6.9020208@maynor.net> <42A9848A.7050603@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ACJfee004825 > Does Bar Harbor not have groups of Mexicans roaming around doing odd jobs > for people? > -- Natalie No, it doesn't. That's the thing. It doesn't have a group of any "underclass" roaming around doing jobs for people. In the tourist season, some of the big hotels bring in Jamaicans. But that's getting harder and harder to do because of Visa difficulties. There are some Mexicans doing blueberry picking to the north and east of us. But they too are brought in with a specific job in mind. None of these workers are here illegally. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:20:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACKfee004956 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:20:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:20:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3898@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:00:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2871635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:00:40 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ABoeoh014725 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:50:40 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5ABoNws032241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:50:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:50:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: house manuals Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was really surprised to find that the former owners of my condo left, neatly filed in notebooks, all the appliance manuals for this place. (No, there was not one for the ceiling fan - Dan is right.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:20:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACKfee004950 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:20:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:20:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB389C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:02:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2872003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:02:06 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AC2661015755 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:02:06 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610120206.RSOO16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:02:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610120206.TXI11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:02:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9813C.8010901@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:02:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theater/Theatre References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > and such. I'm on the email list for the schedule, which comes to me as > "Michigan Theatre" but which I file in a mail folder called > "michigantheater". Here's something funny. What you said prompted me to go up and look at some e-mail I'd gotten from the Fondren Renaissance Foundation (my neighborhood), e-mail that I'd glanced at very quickly but remembered contained something about an event at/for the restoration of my childhood movie theater/re, which became an theater/re a bit later, and then was abandoned. Note the two spellings in this newsletter announcement: ******************** This is just a reminder that the Benefit for the Renovation of the Pix/Capri Theatre is tomorrow. We would love for everyone to come and show their support! P I X: A Benefit for the Renovation of the Pix/Capri Theater ******************** -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:20:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACKfee004958 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:20:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:20:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB38DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:04:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2872073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:04:15 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AC4EDM015906 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:04:15 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061014023322042 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:02:33 +0200 Received: from [128.39.110.68] ([128.39.110.68]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:04:14 +0200 Message-ID: <42A981BD.1040602@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:04:13 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A9809A.40605@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42A9809A.40605@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2005 12:04:14.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[84F07860:01C56DB4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard skrev 10.06.2005 13:59: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> >> would "dumb down" the pixels for net use. Since my use is only net use, >> I don't understand why I would want to have to "dumb down" the pixels >> for every picture -- why there would be any point at all in having those >> extra megapixels. > > > Because it is nice to have the option to use them all for a picture or > two that you might want to print. You can choose to use fewer pixels > for your everyday picture taking. It should be a simple setting on the > camera. If you wish to play with the images in Photohop or something similar you might wish to have more pixels than you finally use in the published image. A low resolution camera with 2 megapixels is similar to a Kodak Instamatic - you can take a lot of nice simple photos, but there are lots of things you don't get. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:21:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACKfee004957 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:20:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:20:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3911@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:12:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2872303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:12:11 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACC7vC016816 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:12:07 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610121207.RXHL16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:12:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610121206.WOC11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:12:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42A98394.70904@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:12:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> <42A889F6.9020208@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >theory about a well-working society. He noted that it was so much easier to >get things done in Louisiana because there is an underclass, unlike Maine. >One can easily find someone to cut the grass, help move a few boxes, work >the fast food joints, and most other things in Louisiana, unlike Maine. > > I don't know that I would call it an underclass necessarily since some of these people (the grass-cutters, eg) make good money and are doing it because it is their choice of a job, not because they can't find anything to do. But yes, I think a is one that includes people who do different jobs -- people who care for the sick, people who bury the dead, people who work in government, people who climb telephone poles to check lines, people who make food, people who serve food, people who clean, people who teach, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:21:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACKfee004953 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:20:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:21:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB38DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:03:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2872026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:03:02 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AC32kO015811 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:03:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so596940wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.8.62 with SMTP id 62mr1001857wrh; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:03:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=P8kQnBBrYSuPI07w5A9Bcb6PmM1Kq+8rgAUkYeOySAV+wzHynRkPnUUs40tUzIG5rMi4jZSmZjix/laLe1peqICvUr3MNDk58Xc/El5FsA7YAwYnBT8QhXbDTFwWHHHlBL7Dtd4xH/IYodJesGcFDYGl/YoYJlpytbWJiGzcOY8= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:03:02 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: house manuals In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ACKfee004953 > > I was really surprised to find that the former owners of my condo left, > neatly filed in notebooks, all the appliance manuals for this place. > Bethany > I left a history of the house when we sold the Oak Ridge house. I told who lived in it from the time it was built in 1947. I find those things interesting. Perhaps the person who bought the house (I never met them) didn't care at all. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:23:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACNTee005235 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:23:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:23:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3943@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:23:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2872772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:23:29 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACNSea018460 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:23:28 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610122328.SCCO16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:23:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610122328.ZLV11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:23:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9863E.8040601@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:23:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: coffee References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > What's a Sally >store? > > Another example like addy -- a Salvation Army store. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:24:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACODee005359 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:24:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:24:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00676CFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:24:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2872808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:24:12 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACOCS5018621 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:24:12 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610122412.SCJA16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:24:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610122412.ZRF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:24:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9866A.8050008@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:24:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: house manuals References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >(No, there was not one for the ceiling fan - Dan is right.) > > I left the ones for the ceiling fans in my Starkville house. They're in a drawer in the kitchen. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:31:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACV3ee005816 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:31:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:31:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3922@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:31:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2873195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:31:03 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACV3KA019690 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:31:03 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610123103.SFXN16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:31:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610123103.BBSN11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:31:03 -0400 Message-ID: <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:31:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > If you have many pixels you can choose the resolution you want to use on > the net: sometimes a big picture - or an enlarged detail, sometimes a > smaller version of the whole image scaled down to fit a certain size. If Aha. So the BB clerk was right in one thing she said but wrong in another -- she was right that there's a limit to the usable resolution online, but she was wrong in saying that therefore having a camera with higher than 2 megapixels meant you were simply wasting the extra pixels. Since I crop all pictures and sometimes crop down to a smallish detail, I *would* gain from having more megapixel capacity. E.g., lots of my cemetery pictures include signs like this one: http://tinyurl.com/b3yps And (not re cemeteries) I sometimes crop to show this kind of detail: http://maynor.net/Temp/Paris/amiensext2.jpg Thank you! The question is now answered, and I'll probably order a camera sometime today. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:42:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACgEee006980 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB3977@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:35:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2873436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:35:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACZQkg020188 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:35:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so608225wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.156.4 with SMTP id d4mr527174wre; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:35:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ajzZiSfPN0WYc8AY4T+tDvJkZZjiK0IE3z8Ywf/SaF3frTaAQHwYDMBtXhjxmhZlXSMl6AB0Cd10osSsJvlKCOoTVn3eOBjlI7e70rKR8RK0l4qIzQ0BFF5VwBJLeLO7gzwdjZmxUWsmtl1u/c5so0N0i/ofTfxprN1FBzzJ1YY= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:35:26 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ACgEee006980 > > Betty's advice to wait another year and buy a better one > than you could today seems apt. --Pete But wouldn't that always be true? Or is there something special about next year? -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:42:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACgEee006988 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3977@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:32:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2873255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:32:38 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACWciH019819 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:32:38 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610123238.SGXJ16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:32:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610123237.BCDM11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:32:37 -0400 Message-ID: <42A98863.3040701@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:32:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A9809A.40605@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42A9809A.40605@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >> would "dumb down" the pixels for net use. Since my use is only net use, >> I don't understand why I would want to have to "dumb down" the pixels >> for every picture -- why there would be any point at all in having those >> extra megapixels. > > Because it is nice to have the option to use them all for a picture or > two that you might want to print. You can choose to use fewer pixels > for your everyday picture taking. It should be a simple setting on the > camera. My "since" clause was important above ("since my use is only net use"). I understood all along the value of the extra pixels for printing purposes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:42:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACgEee006983 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB399B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:38:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2873745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:38:51 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACcpiO020676 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:38:51 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.72.3]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610123851.SJYF16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:38:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.72.3]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610123851.BEAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:38:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42A989D9.6050508@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:38:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: house manuals References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >I left a history of the house when we sold the Oak Ridge house. I told who >lived in it from the time it was built in 1947. I find those things >interesting. Perhaps the person who bought the house (I never met them) >didn't care at all. > > I've been trying to find an old newspaper clipping that I thought I had somewhere but seem not to about the house we built in the late '40s. The reason I'd like to find it is to give it to the people who now live in that house. I've never met them, but I've gotten to know their next-door neighbor at some neighborhood events. She's talked to them about meeting me, and they've said I should come visit the house sometime, which I probably will. Anyway, this old clipping is from the newspaper back in the olden days when Jackson was smaller and newspapers regularly did feature stories on new houses -- pictures showing things like my mother standing in the entrance hall. I hate that it seems to have vanished. I'm thinking now that it perhaps never made it here from Hville -- that one or more old scrapbooks got thrown away. Speaking of the olden days in Jackson reminds me of something re our discussion of hiring people to do odd jobs. Back in the late '40s and early '50s, there was a certain corner near downtown Jackson where black men sat in front of a little store, waiting for somebody to come along and hire them to do some kind of short-term job. It was convenient both for them and for the hirers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:42:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACgEee006984 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB39C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:41:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2873892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:41:47 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACfkAF021080 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:41:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so323618wri for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.110.12 with SMTP id i12mr340778wrc; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:41:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NsRswOlLhGK8m4Kl8ft3QV/7f9Nk4CT+cQShTWAZ6fXg2bxlD2qqtPYfLdLMYoaYyb5ZounWcjdddwJbA1tYHFMf4FYWZ24ZEcxwgaKzqVuC9i5m6Tfb5bkQolp4GYFuCiKt1h4sDqMNmJUOdxC3vJEp/rXiqPifZ+1BSVqn7nw= Message-ID: <8865866a0506100541465f1a1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:41:46 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The nicest people In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5ACflAF021084 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, bonniemaev wrote: > Tuesday was my first day of work at the Inn this season. I worked from noon > until nine. I baked cookies and a blueberry streusel coffee cake. I took two > reservations, checked in four couples, finished the laundry, did a little > ironing, put out tea and cookies, and made nice with the guests. I even > convinced the young, neurosurgeon resident vacationing from Texas to go buy > _Saturday_ by Ian McEwan because the lead character is a neurosurgeon and > it's a very well-written book. > Just before I left for the evening, I overheard Barry in the living room > talking to a couple from one of the Carolinas. Barry was saying that they > recently had an ugly guest from NYC. The Southern couple suggested that > perhaps the further South the guest was from, the nicer the guest. I almost > choked. Barry claimed that the nicest guests were from the Midwest > (Wisconsin, Iowa, etc.) and asked me if I agreed. I just said that of course > I would agree, being from the Midwest myself. I then said my goodbyes and > got out of there before giving my unwanted opinion about the Sucky South. > > -- > --bonniev > I find the nicest people to be British, at least in those kinds of situations. However, I'm always the guest and they are the innkeepers. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:42:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACgEee006987 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB3962@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:32:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2873240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:32:12 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACWCHL019783 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:32:12 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050610123209011003qpuse>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:32:10 +0000 Message-ID: <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:32:04 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > What is confusing me is that I'd think that the answer to my original > question would be simply yes or no -- either 2 megapixels is the max for > online pictures or it isn't. 2 megapixels =~ 1600 x 1200 pixels. If your online service is going to limit the size of pictures to 1600 x 1200 or less (and assuming everything else is equal), it doesn't matter if you start with a 5 megapixel picture or a 2 megapixel picture. More pixels are just mathematically combined together, and you lose any extra resolution. Here is a little chart of some megapixel counts and screen or print resolutions: 500x500 pixels (Flickr standard view) .25 megapixels 800x600 pixels (Natalie for web) .5 megapixels 4"x6" * 300 dpi (4x6 print) 2 megapixels Now, having said that, note the clause above "(and assuming everything else is equal)." There are a number of factors causing differences in picture quality, and some can be even more important that megapixel count: * aperture size of the lens * quality of the lens * physical size of the image sensor * noise inherent to the image sensor * per pixel cross-talk between color channels * sophistication of image-processing firmware to compensate for physical properties of image sensor * sophistication of image-processing firmware to compensate for scene characteristics * quality of compression algorithms * compression level Generally, the base quality of the image sensors and software has been improving year after year, so newer cameras tend to be better than older cameras. On the other hand, manufacturers are also cost-sensitive (because consumers are price-sensitive), so they're figure out where they can cut corners to reduce cost. At the same time, "megapixels" has emerged as a leading comparison metric, so they try to boost megapixels without necessarily boosting quality, if that helps them hold costs. So for instance, compare a brand-new $250 5 megapixel consumer-level camera with a tiny image sensor vs. a two-year-old $1000 3 megapixel prosumer-level camera with a larger image sensor. The cheap 5 megapixel camera will produce an image with more pixels, but also possibly more noise artifacts than the fancier 3 megapixel camera, due to the smaller, cheaper image sensor. Even if you downsampled the 5mp photo to 3mp, or upsampled the 3mp photo to 5mp, you may well find the 3mp camera producing much better photos than the 5mp camera. Anyway, if all you ever want for your photos is online use, 2 megapixels seems fine. Betty's advice to wait another year and buy a better one than you could today seems apt. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 07:47:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ACljee007681 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:47:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:47:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB39D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:47:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2874150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:47:45 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACli6t022009 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:47:44 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050610124743014002h4l0e>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:47:44 +0000 Message-ID: <42A98BEC.7050206@istori.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:47:40 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > Thank you! The question is now answered, and I'll probably order a > camera sometime today. If you don't mind a camera that's a teeny bit bigger than you'd get otherwise, I highly recommend you consider a camera with 10x optical zoom. The bigger zoom lets you get closer to things, or lets you fill the frame with your subject, so you have to crop much less, and you can retain more resolution. I didn't have an unlimited camera budget last year, and I bought a 3 megapixel camera with 10x optical zoom instead of a 4- or 5- megapixel camera with 2-3x optical zoom. I'm still very happy with my choice. Here's a useful comparison: http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterkaminski/2957885/ And here are some of my best zoom shots, which would have been much blurrier without the zoom: http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterkaminski/sets/234839/ I'm using a Canon Powershot S1 IS, which you can find for $350 or so. I bought it six months ago at I think $500; that $500 would today get me its new, slightly larger sibling, the 5 megapixel 12x optical S2 IS. :-) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:05:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AD5Lee010305 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:05:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:05:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00676DBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 9:05:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2875073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:05:21 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AD5K6J024296 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:05:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005061013051901400jj8iue>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:05:20 +0000 Message-ID: <42A9900C.6000503@istori.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:05:16 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> <42A98E23.2060603@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42A98E23.2060603@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > so it's not a bad time to wait a year. At the same time, my bet is that at least some portion of the pictures she takes will be of historical interest at some later date. Therefore, my personal preference would be to see her recording history with more resolution, and bequeathing the originals to some entity which would cause them to be cataloged and publicly available in centuries hence. (E.g., posting to a Flickr Pro account with a permissive Creative Commons license may be good enough, at least until something better comes along.) But that's not what she asked. :-) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:17:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ADHCee011625 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:17:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:17:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3AA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 9:10:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2875624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:10:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ADAr4B025142 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:10:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so620708wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.5 with SMTP id w5mr1041318wrc; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:10:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LPErCY5B6RXqyCGSFufcOwnA+us9rC18qgj11OpX232RCR5Fe6uEUtOYbLU33/NRZBpHbZflHG8Fk5q2gWGpO5s1Y+BazlKGjXS6/U8c6SonNB8ZuStC4lCqm/mH7bVsws121iU6fjktowUrmZrW2ypyboNdxnqYTQBYDzVU+cw= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:10:50 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: house manuals In-Reply-To: <42A989D9.6050508@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42A989D9.6050508@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ADHCee011625 Speaking of the olden days in Jackson reminds me of something re our > discussion of hiring people to do odd jobs. Back in the late '40s and > early '50s, there was a certain corner near downtown Jackson where black > men sat in front of a little store, waiting for somebody to come along > and hire them to do some kind of short-term job. It was convenient both > for them and for the hirers. -- Natalie > I think this still happens many places. Need not be black men. The man who delivered our furniture picked up someone like that in Bangor to help him unload the truck. I think that day-laborers can even be found for the lobster boats, although most of the fishermen have their usual sternman. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:17:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ADHCee011621 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:17:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:17:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB3A09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 8:57:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2874621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:57:12 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ACvBiN023241 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:57:11 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050610125711014002f0lme>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:57:11 +0000 Message-ID: <42A98E23.2060603@istori.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:57:07 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev writes, > But wouldn't that always be true? Or is there something special about next > year? She described a weak gadget budget, and no major need for a fancier camera this year. At the same time, the digital camera field is advancing *very* quickly, so it's not a bad time to wait a year. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 08:17:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ADHCee011624 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:17:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:17:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3A14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 9:07:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2875228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:07:44 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AD7iAm024629 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:07:44 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005061013074301400jm96ae>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:07:43 +0000 Message-ID: <42A9909C.1070500@istori.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:07:40 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> <42A8E159.8020501@istori.com> <42A8EBF0.8070403@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A8EBF0.8070403@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > Find-a-Grave makes the pictures larger if clicking on them. But > wouldn't my submitting of them automatically cut them into 2 > megapixels? The person at Best Buy today made it sound as if e-mailing > anything larger would cause servers to crash. On a quick look, I didn't see any pictures that were larger than about 750x500 pixels, which is about .5 megapixels. They may resize everything down to about that size, I'm not sure. Some photo sharing sites limit the maximum size; others (Flickr, for instance), don't -- you can upload a 5 megapixel, and they'll store the original in case anybody wants it that big. As a rule of thumb, people used to try to keep email attachments down to 1Mb or less. Nowadays, it's not uncommon to see multi-megabyte attachments, and servers and clients generally handle them okay. A 2 megapixel photo with JPEG compression will generally end up being less than 1Mb. >> * Lets you (or others) crop a photo for better composition, and still >> have decent resolution. > > What does this mean (in relation to pixels)? Cropping means cutting the boring or distracting bits of the photo off, so viewers can focus on the most interesting part. So this picture, for instance: http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterkaminski/14746175/ started out at 2048x1536 pixels (= 3 megapixels), but most of it was sky. Cutting off the empty sky parts to make the more dramatic picture of just the bird left me with a picture just 688x516 pixels (= .35 megapixels). If I had taken the same picture with a 5 megapixel (2592x1944 pixel) camera, I would have ended up with a 871x653 pixel (= .5 megapixels) crop, which would have given a little finer detail in the feathers, etc. (The standard Flickr display proportionally resizes -- shrinks -- photos to fit into a 500x500 space, so in this case, the picture you see on that page is shrunk to 500x375 pixels. If you find and click the "different sizes" link, you'll be able to view the 688x516 original.) > What's a photo community? Well, it *looks* like a photo-sharing site, but they've built in the right kind of tools so that people find friends and make discussions about, and even of, pictures. It's a little hard to describe unless you participate, but I've found really rich rewards from participating a little -- interesting friends around the world, new f2f friends, keeping up a little better with my globe-trotting old friends, etc. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:32:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AEWEee021617 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:32:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:32:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00676F9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:32:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2881763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:32:14 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AEWEAq005955 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:32:14 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.28]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610143214.ZERI8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:32:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.28]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610143214.GFVY5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:32:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9A46B.6020909@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:32:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> <42A8E159.8020501@istori.com> <42A8EBF0.8070403@maynor.net> <42A9909C.1070500@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42A9909C.1070500@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > On a quick look, I didn't see any pictures that were larger than about > 750x500 pixels, which is about .5 megapixels. They may resize > everything down to about that size, I'm not sure. Some photo sharing Something is said on the Find-a-Grave submission page about their resizing them. I've never paid attention to the details, but I think there's an instant resizing the minute the picture lands on their server. > A 2 megapixel photo with JPEG compression will generally end up being > less than 1Mb. And this reminds me of the little box that sometimes pops up when saving pictures as .jpg -- a box saying something about losing whatever when you choose .jpg. But that's what I always use since it seems to work as well as anything else. >> What does this mean (in relation to pixels)? > > Cropping means cutting the boring or distracting bits of the photo off, > so viewers can focus on the most interesting part. So this picture, for I know what cropping means. I meant how did it affect pixel-count. The problem is that I know zero about the underlying of photography. I didn't know whether the resolution involved something like depth -- as in it stayed the same regardless of the size of the picture -- or whether it was related to picture size. I understand now that it's the latter -- that by cropping off the parts you don't want in the picture, you are reducing its pixel number. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:33:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AEXXee021738 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:33:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:33:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3B62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 9:43:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2877941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:43:32 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ADhW9l030480 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:43:32 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so633521wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.25.13 with SMTP id 13mr1060166wry; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:43:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SaSA6So0ByClISiJm0yy+7wEvuJpe3U9BJt/o1/6L0brSuvZIk3ZUc7VND86qu8Jp3DjlHPvu8FDrwXSDJXF7WuFhUtCdXD/KxorYkT+EXesWO6M5Xr2yYqg98z4Z541VVFKeJ5Txrc09d20ShoxQQKSFy2sLXrzqGap2Hkpk2w= Message-ID: <44dce1c105061006431c9a40c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:43:31 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The nicest people In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5ADhW9l030481 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, bonniemaev wrote: > Tuesday was my first day of work at the Inn this season. I worked from noon > until nine. I baked cookies and a blueberry streusel coffee cake. I Would you mind sharing the coffee cake recipe? > I then said my goodbyes and > got out of there before giving my unwanted opinion about the Sucky South. > Very graceful! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:33:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AEXXee021739 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:33:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:33:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3CFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:25:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2881373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:25:03 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AEP2d3004922 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:25:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so652527wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.2 with SMTP id f2mr540832wra; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:25:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=r5Y7NceMM6zYPyd05PF/zYqCEtoJXGTRmK5TJvwBdFoqYfjk9X4qcRixoRzAMt40Mxpf/lOuZKYqXGkCQn7tuqAl5BvIG+Z1pTIAcSTSjMWYL4NWS59FMKMIvTzTvb3444OFMA6z2IV4ajGh9uPjWyR7lDTOTEXvv8KriMHa1mo= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:25:02 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The nicest people In-Reply-To: <44dce1c105061006431c9a40c1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <44dce1c105061006431c9a40c1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5AEXXee021739 > > I baked cookies and a blueberry streusel coffee cake. > > Would you mind sharing the coffee cake recipe? > Terry > I'll try to remember to type it up and post it tomorrow evening when next I am at the Inn. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:33:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AEXXee021740 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:33:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:33:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB3D3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:25:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2881406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:25:34 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AEPYi6005017 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:25:34 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.28]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610142534.YZSI8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:25:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.28]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610142533.GCWE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:25:33 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9A2DB.8000009@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:25:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> <42A98E23.2060603@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42A98E23.2060603@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > bonniev writes, > >> But wouldn't that always be true? Or is there something special about >> next >> year? > > She described a weak gadget budget, and no major need for a fancier > camera this year. At the same time, the digital camera field is > advancing *very* quickly, so it's not a bad time to wait a year. First -- thanks for the discussion/illustrations of things like zooms. I didn't reply because I decided to read on first. But you've definitely given me insights, and I'll now ponder things other than megapixels. (I was already pondering other things, of course -- things like the fact that I like the feel and size of my current camera -- I remember that somebody, possibly you, said when I was first thinking about digital cameras that the feel was important. And I agree. I picked up a Canon "elf" yesterday and didn't like its feel. It's too little.) Another thing I've pondered is "ease of use" -- something the Canon Powershot A series scores high on in net reviews. Unless I develop more interest/skill in photography, something that is of course possible but that I'm not counting on, I'd like to stick to cameras with high scores on ease of use. (Re that subject -- I remember some funny times with my ex-husband, who was a good photographer and had fancy cameras with a multitude of settings to fiddle with, when he and I were somewhere with my little instamatic and his fancy camera/s. Suddenly an interesting sight would appear, and I'd take a great picture of it, sometimes pictures we had enlarged to really big sizes and framed. He meanwhile would miss the shot entirely because the moment would have passed by the time he got all the settings set on his fancy camera.) But back to what I quoted above. I'm kind of with Bonnie in thinking that with almost anything you think about buying, you can keep saying that if you wait another year the prices will be lower for the same or higher quality -- at least anything in the gadget world. I remember several years ago talking about my desire for a new tv set at a time when people were saying wait -- that tv sets were about to change and that it was a bad time to buy one. I finally went on and bought one and am glad I did since otherwise I would still be using the old inferior one that I wanted to replace. As for a gadget budget, I don't really have one. I've never been much of a budgeter in that I've never sat down and carefully figured out how much to spend on this or that. My budgeting is simply a matter of my lifetime philosophy that we've discussed before: if you can't afford it, you don't buy it (and by "afford" it, I mean you're able to pay for it immediately -- excluding certain large items like houses -- and you won't have to give up something that is higher on your priority list in order to buy it). My general shopping habits are to buy less expensive rather than more expensive things unless there's a clear reason to buy something more expensive -- like the quality really is much greater and high quality is important re that particular purchase. I have no interest in spending money on -- like to show that I have a Whatever-is-In item. This is why I kept asking about megapixels. I have no interest in having a high number of megapixels so that I can pop out my camera in a crowd and show that . I simply wanted to know whether I would gain something that matters to me by having more megapixels. And re no major need for a fancier camera this year: That will always be true. I have no major need for a camera at all. (I do understand your point about how rapid the current change is -- iow, that not all years are the same. Still, though, I keep thinking back on the tv set that I almost didn't buy because the tv field was rapidly changing at the time.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:33:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AEXXee021737 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:33:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:33:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3D62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:28:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2881577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:28:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AESiDc005426 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:28:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so654151wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.129.1 with SMTP id b1mr1074094wrd; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:28:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fuKy0JOp1m4BSZvNUUalVeEksVm42GELeanmCk4j3iOcCcLx6qJV6zKhUbQj9p81aU7kThwlbcdHQHx6NShodDwdTxt494+Eajfj15x5JMhdx9FPqiC42plsA7XmW9VYcdALVdhEK1O2iSPD7SmrPKyg8hZlmsZflcdr+NuzTLg= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050610072839293268@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:28:44 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The nicest people In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <44dce1c105061006431c9a40c1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5AESiDc005427 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > I baked cookies and a blueberry streusel coffee cake. > > > > Would you mind sharing the coffee cake recipe? > > Terry > > > I'll try to remember to type it up and post it tomorrow evening when next I > am at the Inn. > > > -- > --bonniev > Thanks a bunch, blueberries are my favorite. This weekend I'll settle for rhubarb. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:42:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AEfwee022713 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:41:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:42:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3D94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:41:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2882671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:41:58 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AEfvZe007707; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:41:57 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68542863; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:41:56 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610074252.02727b50@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:43:14 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question In-Reply-To: <42A98394.70904@maynor.net> References: <42A86965.3010309@maynor.net> <42A889F6.9020208@maynor.net> <42A98394.70904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:12 AM 6/10/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniemaev wrote: > >>theory about a well-working society. He noted that it was so much easier to >>get things done in Louisiana because there is an underclass, unlike Maine. >>One can easily find someone to cut the grass, help move a few boxes, work >>the fast food joints, and most other things in Louisiana, unlike Maine. >> >I don't know that I would call it an underclass necessarily since some >of these people (the grass-cutters, eg) make good money and are doing it >because it is their choice of a job, not because they can't find >anything to do. But yes, I think a is >one that includes people who do different jobs -- people who care for >the sick, people who bury the dead, people who work in government, >people who climb telephone poles to check lines, people who make food, >people who serve food, people who clean, people who teach, etc. etc. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) People who work in Inns. Someone has to do it. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:44:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AEi1ee022986 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:44:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:44:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00677183@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:34:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2882244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:34:01 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AEXxjO006413 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:34:00 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68540896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:33:54 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610073501.027f2160@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:35:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: life in a dorm room In-Reply-To: <42A96DD4.9070300@akad.ee> References: <42A96DD4.9070300@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:39 AM 6/10/2005, you wrote: >Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >>NO dishes are supplied - so the question is - what do I need to take? >>Something to heat water in and a cup/mug and single filter thingie - with >>filters and ground coffee? >Haven't you ever drunk press jug coffee? And, to go one more step back >in the history (actually, two steps, for the press jugs seem to be, >meanwhile well forgotten, new things): the simple old method of coffee >making: put ground coffee on the bottom of a mug or jug and pour hot >water on it. Let it stay for a while, and drink (or pour it into another >cup before drinking, but that would mean one more cup to be taken with >you). Sure, instant coffee is more convenient on a trip but if you do >not like its taste why not use the primitive method. > >Kristin http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc?Product_Code=BigSkyBistro&Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MTR From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 09:48:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AEmMee023530 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:48:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:48:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3E02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:48:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2882980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:48:22 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AEmLcv008628 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:48:21 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5AEmLE2005616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:48:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:48:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Another past Wordsler death: Jinny Jones In-Reply-To: <42A9813C.8010901@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> <42A9813C.8010901@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't think Jinny Jones was mentioned recently. She should be included in any web memorial to departed Wordslers. I mention this because I found a reference to her in some of Brad Grissom's old messages I was reviewing last night. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:18:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AFHkee027501 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:17:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:18:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3F0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:17:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2885177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:17:19 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AFHJFp014526; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:17:19 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68551282; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:17:18 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610081708.028096b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:18:35 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Another past Wordsler death: Jinny Jones In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> <42A9813C.8010901@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:48 AM 6/10/2005, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >I don't think Jinny Jones was mentioned recently. She should be included >in any web memorial to departed Wordslers. > >I mention this because I found a reference to her in some of Brad >Grissom's old messages I was reviewing last night. > > Larry Thanks, Larry. I thought of her yesterday and was going to mention her name. I was looking through words-l photos for Brad pictures and found her. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:18:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AFHkee027497 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:17:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:18:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3E72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:07:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2884566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:07:37 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AF7b3V012319 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:07:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067717D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:07:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200506101507.j5AF7b3V012319@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:07:37 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: a bite of the Dill Pickle To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:39:36 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 10:49:18AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> On 6/9/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> > "At the Dill Pickle Club, scene in Chicago of poetry readings, one-act >> > plays, and other excruciating evenings of advanced culture, Hecht once >> > engaged Maxwell Bodenheim over the question, 'That People Who Attend >> > Literary Debates Are Imbeciles.' Hecht began by announcing that the >> > affirmative side rested, Bodenheim followed with 'You win,' and the two >> > men walked off with the evening's receipts." >> > >> > >> > I love my job! >> >> That sounds like something Tushar would do... > >What? Go to a "scene" for "advanced culture"? Get real ... What? Mock the people who go to a "scene" "advanced culture"? Get Fuzzy. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:18:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AFHkee027500 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:17:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:18:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB3ED0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:11:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2884860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:11:54 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AFBs4I013273 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:11:54 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3E94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:11:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200506101511.j5AFBs4I013273@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:11:54 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A Ceiling Fan Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:28:10 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >6/9/2005, 12:35 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> I find it odd that people moving out of >NM> houses don't leave >NM> all the pertinent manuals that go with things >NM> staying in the house. I'm >NM> very careful to do that. > >Yeah, but you're a scholar. Most people don't save any of that kind >of stuff. In all our house purchase adventures, people have left the relevant materials, and it's been very helpful. The sellers involved have varied from business people to "displaced homemaker" to farm guy. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:18:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AFHkee027495 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:17:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:18:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3E1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:57:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2883843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:57:42 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AEvgE4010491 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:57:42 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB3E68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:57:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200506101457.j5AEvgE4010491@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:57:42 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: where oh where is gmail? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:44:29 -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >On 6/9/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> I'm getting a white page instead. >> clo >> > >If you are not receiving it, how do you expect to read an answer? Ah. I read the archives - my email load is too heavy to read the list in the ordinary way. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:24:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AFO3ee028345 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:24:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:24:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00677225@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:05:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2884487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:05:35 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AF5Z9V012001 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:05:35 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB3E69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:05:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200506101505.j5AF5Z9V012001@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:05:35 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:12:05 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >At 10:58 AM 6/9/2005, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >>If I'm going to attend this, I'm going to need: >> >>(1) A firm date, time, and location, and >> >>(2) One or more tributes, eulogies, or appropriate comments from >>Wordslers. >> >>Janice and I did spend a day with Brad in Lexington, but my direct >>memories of him make a pretty thin text to base a eulogy on. If you want >>me to do this, I'll need some help here. >> >> Larry > >Where's Marty? Where are a number of people, including Rashmi? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:24:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AFO3ee028343 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:24:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:24:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067721A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:04:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2884351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:04:02 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AF41T4011679 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:04:02 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061017021923014 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:02:19 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.33] ([158.39.120.33]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:04:00 +0200 Message-ID: <42A9ABDF.5010207@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:03:59 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another past Wordsler death: Jinny Jones References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> <42A9813C.8010901@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2005 15:04:00.0663 (UTC) FILETIME=[A22EDA70:01C56DCD] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum skrev 10.06.2005 16:48: > I don't think Jinny Jones was mentioned recently. She should be included > in any web memorial to departed Wordslers. > That is right. I met her in Charlottesville six years ago and we spent a very nice lunch and afternoon. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:44:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AFikee031277 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:44:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:44:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB3FD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:44:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2886261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:44:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AFYi9C017485 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:34:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 27289 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jun 2005 15:34:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:34:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Theater/Theatre Message-ID: <20050610153444.GA26552@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:03:15AM -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I think movie theaters in the U.S. started using "theatre" in their names > in the 1920s, because it was more pretentious, and because at the time > British stuff (Tudor architecture, English county street names, etc.) was > considered high-class. Kind of like Tom Wolfe and beautiful architecture huh. "That time" was real funny. Is this the only known fallout of spelling reform? I think so ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 10:54:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AFsNee000100 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:54:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:54:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4010@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:54:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2886944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:54:23 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AFiNJx019124 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:44:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 31496 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jun 2005 15:44:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:44:22 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050610154422.GB26552@words-l.org> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 06:57:08AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > > >NM> So a higher megapixel camera would take better > >NM> pictures for online use? > > > >Would take better, more detailed pictures for all purposes. > > > > > ??? So what did your previous answer mean when you said that what the > clerk told me about 2-megapixel max "seems reasonable"? > > What is confusing me is that I'd think that the answer to my original > question would be simply yes or no -- either 2 megapixels is the max for > online pictures or it isn't. OK, "it's not". What now? There are at least two ways you can get "greater detail" in a picture on a monitor--the screen packs more pixels, or the picture occupies a larger area. If you don't want to be panning over a 2-foot-wide picture, and given the state of most monitors currently in use, maybe 2M is all you need. There is a little metaphysical point you could make--if you are going to cook an image down to an 800x600 jpeg, maybe starting with 5M gives "greater detail" ... I have no idea how true this is ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:22:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AGM6ee004115 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB40AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2888625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:24 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AGFORj023404 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:24 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.128.131]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610161524.KSPP2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.128.131]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610161524.IKSC8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9BC9A.2040906@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:15:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another past Wordsler death: Jinny Jones References: <8ddfc8a70506071846171ffc5f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050607201049923953@mail.gmail.com> <20050608120551.GA5238@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050608061610e87850@mail.gmail.com> <42A82D14.1030700@maynor.net> <42A9813C.8010901@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I don't think Jinny Jones was mentioned recently. She should be included > in any web memorial to departed Wordslers. Yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:22:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AGM6ee004113 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB405C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:05:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2887606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:05:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AFtmlt020760 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:55:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 38008 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jun 2005 15:55:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:55:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question Message-ID: <20050610155547.GB32812@words-l.org> References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> <42A8E159.8020501@istori.com> <42A8EBF0.8070403@maynor.net> <42A9909C.1070500@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A9909C.1070500@istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 06:07:40AM -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > >What's a photo community? > > Well, it *looks* like a photo-sharing site, but they've built in the > right kind of tools so that people find friends and make discussions > about, and even of, pictures. > > It's a little hard to describe unless you participate, but I've found > really rich rewards from participating a little -- interesting friends > around the world, new f2f friends, keeping up a little better with my > globe-trotting old friends, etc. I can't picture Dr Maynor doing this ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:22:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AGM6ee004111 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4045@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:02:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2887440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:02:06 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AFq58Q020296 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:52:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 35469 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jun 2005 15:52:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:52:05 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The nicest people Message-ID: <20050610155205.GA32812@words-l.org> References: <8865866a0506100541465f1a1d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8865866a0506100541465f1a1d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:41:46PM +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: > I find the nicest people to be British, at least in those kinds of > situations. However, I'm always the guest and they are the innkeepers. Agreed ... in my very meager experience, and nothing to do with hotels. They also seem to be the only ones properly educated and free of bizarre beliefs. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:22:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AGM6ee004116 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB4079@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:17:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2888826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:17:28 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AGHSaG023790 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:17:28 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.128.131]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610161728.KTXM2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:17:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.128.131]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610161727.ILMI8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:17:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9BD15.3050103@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:17:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The nicest people References: <8865866a0506100541465f1a1d@mail.gmail.com> <20050610155205.GA32812@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050610155205.GA32812@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>I find the nicest people to be British, at least in those kinds of >>situations. However, I'm always the guest and they are the innkeepers. >> >> >Agreed ... in my very meager experience, and nothing to do with >hotels. They also seem to be the only ones properly educated and >free of bizarre beliefs. > > And when they spell theatre, it's not an affectation. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:22:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AGM6ef004115 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB40D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:19:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2888976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:19:53 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AGJrNm024180 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:19:53 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.128.131]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610161953.KVCI2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:19:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.128.131]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610161953.IMKG8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:19:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:19:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does anybody have any of the clambake pictures online -- or specifically a picture of Brad from clambake? I remember taking one of him sitting on a rail on the porch -- a picture that was in our vanished picture gallery. I'm sure I have the print of it in a shoebox, but my scanner is disconnected and possibly non-functional. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:22:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AGM6ee004117 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:22:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB40AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:16:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2888738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:16:35 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AGGYMD023617 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:16:34 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.128.131]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610161634.KTJA2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:16:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.128.131]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610161632.ILDD8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:16:32 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9BCDE.9050100@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:16:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <20050610154422.GB26552@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050610154422.GB26552@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>question would be simply yes or no -- either 2 megapixels is the max for >>online pictures or it isn't. >> >> >OK, "it's not". What now? > Very good. Thank you, Tushykins. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:32:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AGWSee005435 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:32:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:32:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006771E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:32:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2889674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:32:27 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AGWRYd025795 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:32:27 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68569621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:32:26 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610093313.0273beb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:33:43 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:19 AM 6/10/2005, you wrote: >Does anybody have any of the clambake pictures online -- or specifically >a picture of Brad from clambake? I remember taking one of him sitting >on a rail on the porch -- a picture that was in our vanished picture >gallery. I'm sure I have the print of it in a shoebox, but my scanner >is disconnected and possibly non-functional. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Was Ken there? He had great albums of Wordslers. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:55:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AGt6ee007736 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:55:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:55:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4193@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:47:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2890505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:47:35 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AGlZ0Y028342 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:47:35 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5AGlYjE024205 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:47:34 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5AGlY3Q024203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:47:34 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:47:34 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050610164734.GB24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = Betty's advice to wait another year and buy a better one = than you could today seems apt. = = Pete Yes, but that's always true. That's part of why I just got my first digital camera last year! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:55:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AGt6ee007734 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:55:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:55:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB4132@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:45:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2890371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:45:06 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AGj3EN027884 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:45:05 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5AGj1RT024177 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:45:02 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5AGj1pg024175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:45:01 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:45:01 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050610164501.GA24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 07:31:00AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = pixels. Since I crop all pictures and sometimes crop down to a smallish = detail, I *would* gain from having more megapixel capacity. = See the difference here? http://www.patnsteph.net/qd2005/img_0588.jpg http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/img_0588.jpg The first one is just a compressed version of the second one. If you have the second one you can completely crop out the cats and focus on the guys in the window and the man and woman talking below. = Thank you! The question is now answered, and I'll probably order a = camera sometime today. = Now, I want to know about the SD cards being phased out. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 11:55:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AGt6ee007738 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:55:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:55:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB41BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:51:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2890058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:51:28 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AGfSj3027075 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:41:28 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5AGfBpU011385 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:41:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:41:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This URL gave me a choice of mountaineering equipment or baby stuff. ? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:15:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHFWee010374 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00677274@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:05:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2891291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:05:32 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AGtWgA030217 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:55:32 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5AGtBQe028737 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:55:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:55:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: coffee decision Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have on hand 4 European single-packet coffees and 12 American single-packet coffees. I will use those. On other days, I will plan to buy a coffee the night before, then reheat it in the microwave the next morning. That way, all I have to carry is a mug - and some soap to wash it with. When I return, I shall invetigate the Toddy cold water system for future use. It's too late to order one now. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:15:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHFbee010382 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB41E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:55:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2890384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:55:36 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AGjaKn027946 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:45:36 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5AGjI4T017092 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:45:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:45:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: coffee Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin: Haven't you ever drunk press jug coffee? And, to go one more step back in the history (actually, two steps, for the press jugs seem to be, meanwhile well forgotten, new things): the simple old method of coffee making: put ground coffee on the bottom of a mug or jug and pour hot water on it. Let it stay for a while, and drink (or pour it into another cup before drinking, but that would mean one more cup to be taken with you). Sure, instant coffee is more convenient on a trip but if you do not like its taste why not use the primitive method. Thanks. I have drunk press pot - or French press pot - coffee. Must be the same as jug coffee. The older ways would work, but I want to carry as few items as possible. I plan to start with European instant. It got me started in Barcelona. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:15:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHFbee010383 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4213@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:05:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2891857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:05:34 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AH5XQt031871 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:05:34 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005061017053301300fso0de>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:05:33 +0000 Message-ID: <42A9C853.6000800@istori.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:05:23 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> <42A98E23.2060603@istori.com> <42A9A2DB.8000009@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A9A2DB.8000009@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie writes, > And re no major need for a fancier camera this year: That will always > be true. I have no major need for a camera at all. As long as you've thought it through, either way is fine. :-) Feel is really important, as you say. And having it make sense to you is important, more important than someone else's judgement about ease of use. They'll all have an "easy" point-n-shoot, mode, of course. You'd probably really like my S1 IS. It's shaped much like an A series, and the zoom is killer, as I've said. It's too bad you didn't get to play with it at Betty's party. Some additional S1 comments (which will probably sound too technical, but hey): at high zoom on any camera, it's really nice (almost required) to have active image stabilization. The image stabilization works well on the S1, and if you leave it on, it also works on non-zoom pictures and lets you take pictures in darker situations without having them get as shaky. Also, a high zoom lens means that it's impractical to have a separate optical viewfinder, so the viewfinder on the S1 is actually a little mini video display that shows what the lens sees. On the plus side, this is exactly the "through-the-lens" view; on the minus side, sometimes it's a little harder to see fine details or colors, and a big minus is the view freezes as pictures are taken, so it can be hard to track a moving target. I still love it, though. Anyway, two really good places to check out whatever camera model(s) you're interested in: http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ Both sites do great in-depth, user-oriented reviews. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:40:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHeEee013091 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4298@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:24:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2892834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:24:27 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AHOQZe002081 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:24:27 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5AHOQqB024464 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:24:26 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5AHOPVx024462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:24:26 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:24:25 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The nicest people Message-ID: <20050610172425.GE24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8865866a0506100541465f1a1d@mail.gmail.com> <20050610155205.GA32812@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050610155205.GA32812@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:52:05AM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: = On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:41:46PM +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: = > I find the nicest people to be British, at least in those kinds of = > situations. However, I'm always the guest and they are the innkeepers. = = Agreed ... in my very meager experience, and nothing to do with = hotels. They also seem to be the only ones properly educated and = free of bizarre beliefs. I work with at least one un-nice, poorly-educated, bizarrely-beliefed Brit. I bet Roy knows a handful at least. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:40:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHeEee013092 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB424F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:21:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2892700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:21:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AHLi7u001743 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:21:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5AHLiPI024438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:21:44 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5AHLhqC024436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:21:44 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:21:43 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service Message-ID: <20050610172143.GD24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200506101505.j5AF5Z9V012001@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506101505.j5AF5Z9V012001@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = >Where's Marty? = = Where are a number of people, including Rashmi? = clo Where's Elaine? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:40:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHeEee013086 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB4244@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:20:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2892614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:20:13 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AHKDNS001392 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:20:13 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5AHKC3t024413 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:20:12 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5AHKCHv024411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:20:12 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:20:12 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life in a dorm room Message-ID: <20050610172012.GC24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42A96DD4.9070300@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610073501.027f2160@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610073501.027f2160@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc?Product_Code=BigSkyBistro&Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MTR no tiny no copy-pasty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:40:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHeEee013088 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4302@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:37:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2893512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:37:28 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AHbSEa004084 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:37:28 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610173727.YEPA22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:37:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610173727.XTKM13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:37:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9CFD5.6070509@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:37:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> <20050610164501.GA24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050610164501.GA24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 07:31:00AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >= pixels. Since I crop all pictures and sometimes crop down to a smallish >= detail, I *would* gain from having more megapixel capacity. > > >See the difference here? >http://www.patnsteph.net/qd2005/img_0588.jpg >http://www.patnsteph.net/queensday2005/img_0588.jpg > > >The first one is just a compressed version of the second one. If you >have the second one you can completely crop out the cats and focus on >the guys in the window and the man and woman talking below. > > I understand cropping -- have always understood cropping. What I didn't know was about pixels -- that the cropped version has viewer. >Now, I want to know about the SD cards being phased out. > > The salesperson was perhaps in error. That came in a conversation we had about how I might order the Canon Powershot A95 online -- that the price was lower even on Best Buy's own website -- that their website said something about "internet only prices." She said that when people ordered from that site that they could get a 10% discount in the store on "accessories." I asked what kind of accessories she was talking about, and she mentioned things like cards, which is what I had guessed she might be talking about. I told her that I would just use the ones I already had -- that surely it would take the same cards as my current camera. She then mentioned that this particular Canon -- the Powershot A95 was the last one that would take that kind of card -- that it was being phased out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:40:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHeEee013093 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB42C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:31:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2893212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:31:27 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AHVRvr003127 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:31:27 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610173127.YBFN22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:31:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610173126.XRLC13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:31:26 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9CE6C.6000506@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:31:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610093313.0273beb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610093313.0273beb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Was Ken there? He had great albums of Wordslers. Clambake pre-dated Boo, I think. Our only Ken at that stage was Ken Wolman, iirc. In any case, Boo was not present. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:51:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHp0ee014351 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:51:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:51:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB430E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:40:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2893616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:40:58 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AHew8W004738 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:40:58 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610174058.YGMT22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:40:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610174057.XUMD13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:40:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9D0A7.9090107@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:40:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> <42A98E23.2060603@istori.com> <42A9A2DB.8000009@maynor.net> <42A9C853.6000800@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42A9C853.6000800@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Anyway, two really good places to check out whatever camera model(s) > you're interested in: > > http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html > http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ > > Both sites do great in-depth, user-oriented reviews. Thanks! I have not yet taken action because I've been involved in a bunch of other stuff and haven't had time for any more camera explorations. And I do plan to explore some more before ordering -- to explore the kinds of zoomish things you were talking about and to explore the S1, which does sound interesting to me. But I need to go to the grocery store to buy ingredients to use tomorrow when I make the dill-feta potato salad again, this time to take to a church potluck Sunday. Remind me to ask a potato-boiling question later. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:51:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHpOee014394 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:51:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:51:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006772F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:41:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2893651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:41:24 -0400 Received: from web60724.mail.yahoo.com (web60724.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AHfN6m004845 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:41:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 36211 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2005 17:41:23 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60724.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:41:23 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1loEdsaTK86cEcaJhh3EQr40I4A1jeQrcuMWZVDOB+w9Fj4BDCjlfUeHFNz4jnuBznBaUHjHfBZ6xNBr9JWBDqLHfjaH35vkZuBYtS0X0OglGPb+xKB6KId0ltZ83+ChZpI3DLJF9Q4giG8zaezfveNrhKnHQlN1BAwLmSLFTYs= ; Message-ID: <20050610174123.36208.qmail@web60724.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:41:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The nicest people To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <42A9BD15.3050103@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>I find the nicest people to be British, at least > in those kinds of > >>situations. > >> They also seem to be the only ones properly > educated and > >free of bizarre beliefs. I adore them, but "free of bizarre beliefs"? How quickly we have forgotten crop circles. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 12:58:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AHwcee014968 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:58:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:58:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB43A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:58:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2894813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:58:38 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AHwcYU008441 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:58:38 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610175838.YQKQ22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:58:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610175837.YAGN13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:58:37 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9D4CB.8070802@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:58:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Another Camera Thing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'd really like to have a camera that had manual rather than automatic flash. Most times the automatic flash works fine, but there are odd times when I'd rather be able to choose whether to flash or not to flash. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:20:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AIKZee017666 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:20:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:20:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB43C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:05:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2895083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:05:31 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AI5USc009447 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:05:30 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 51B872D3B8C68 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:05:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003801c56de6$f27fe1e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42A9D4CB.8070802@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Another Camera Thing Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:05:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:58 PM Subject: Another Camera Thing > I'd really like to have a camera that had manual rather than automatic > flash. Most times the automatic flash works fine, but there are odd > times when I'd rather be able to choose whether to flash or not to flash. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) My camera gives me a choice. I assumed they all do. I have the Kodak LS743. Very small. Great pictures. I love it. - JD. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:20:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AIKZee017665 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:20:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:20:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB43AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:00:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2894898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:00:34 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AI0XTf008738 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:00:34 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-76.gwi.net [216.195.166.76]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5AI0U9X040726; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:00:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050610135808.01bfe2e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:59:49 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A9C853.6000800@istori.com> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> <42A98E23.2060603@istori.com> <42A9A2DB.8000009@maynor.net> <42A9C853.6000800@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:05 PM 6/10/2005, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Anyway, two really good places to check out whatever camera model(s) >you're interested in: > >http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html >http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/ > >Both sites do great in-depth, user-oriented reviews. Another is: http://www.imaging-resource.com/INDEX.HTM cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:36:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AIaaee019602 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:36:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:36:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB44D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:36:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:36:35 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AIaZAU014030 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:36:35 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005061018363401300g05l0e>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:36:34 +0000 Message-ID: <42A9DDA9.9030503@istori.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:36:25 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Camera Thing References: <42A9D4CB.8070802@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42A9D4CB.8070802@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > I'd really like to have a camera that had manual rather than automatic > flash. Most times the automatic flash works fine, but there are odd > times when I'd rather be able to choose whether to flash or not to flash. On my Canons, you have to take it out of the green "auto-everything" mode and put it on "P", which still leaves aperture and exposure on automatic, but allows you change other settings like flash. You can leave the other settings alone (especially leave white balance set to "auto"), but "P" mode allows you to set the flash to always off, auto, red-eye mode, and always on (useful for fill-flash). Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:37:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AIasee019638 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:36:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:37:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB44D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:36:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:36:54 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AIark7014074 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:36:54 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610183654.MWFI16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:36:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610183653.VCZH4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:36:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9DDBC.6040209@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:36:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Seven Report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clever, Bad Betty! I bet the postwoman had to give that address some thought to figure out where "three thousand seven hundred and fifteen" was. Bethany, meanwhile, is a 7-crosser, though it's just a tiny hint of a cross. I'm loving some of the insertions that have arrived with people's checks, btw. Nice card, Bethany. And great pictures, BB. I also found the "mourning dove" appropriate, AnnBork. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:37:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AIbcee019746 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:37:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:37:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB44A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:37:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:37:38 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AIbcsV014186 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:37:38 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610183738.MXNJ16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:37:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610183738.VDPC4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:37:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9DDEF.3010005@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:37:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> <42A98E23.2060603@istori.com> <42A9A2DB.8000009@maynor.net> <42A9C853.6000800@istori.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050610135808.01bfe2e8@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050610135808.01bfe2e8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Another is: > > http://www.imaging-resource.com/INDEX.HTM Thanks! I started to do a bit of research a little while ago but am distracted by too many different things and thus will wait until later. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 13:38:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AIckee019883 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:38:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:38:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB44A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:38:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:38:46 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AIckO9014294 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:38:46 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610183836.MZAL16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:38:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610183834.VEHR4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:38:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42A9DE27.7050508@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:38:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Camera Thing References: <42A9D4CB.8070802@maynor.net> <003801c56de6$f27fe1e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <003801c56de6$f27fe1e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > My camera gives me a choice. I assumed they > all do. I have the Kodak LS743. Very small. > Great pictures. I love it. Nope. There is no way to operate mine manually. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:17:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AJHpee024791 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:17:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:17:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB463D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:17:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2899660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:17:51 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AJ7oOT019953 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:07:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 45451 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jun 2005 19:07:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:07:49 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The nicest people Message-ID: <20050610190749.GA42328@words-l.org> References: <8865866a0506100541465f1a1d@mail.gmail.com> <20050610155205.GA32812@words-l.org> <42A9BD15.3050103@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A9BD15.3050103@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:17:25AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>I find the nicest people to be British, at least in those kinds of > >>situations. However, I'm always the guest and they are the innkeepers. > >> > > >Agreed ... in my very meager experience, and nothing to do with > >hotels. They also seem to be the only ones properly educated and > >free of bizarre beliefs. > > > And when they spell theatre, it's not an affectation. Thank you, Dr Natalie. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:18:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AJIbee024872 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:18:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:18:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00677503@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:18:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2899671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:18:32 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AJ8V73020021 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:08:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 45555 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jun 2005 19:08:31 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:08:31 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050610190831.GB42328@words-l.org> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> <20050610164734.GB24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050610164734.GB24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 06:47:34PM +0200, steph wrote: > = Betty's advice to wait another year and buy a better one > = than you could today seems apt. > = > = Pete > > Yes, but that's always true. That's part of why I just got my first > digital camera last year! To use your words, it's "especially" true now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:25:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AJPBee025616 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:25:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:25:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB468D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:25:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2900249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:25:11 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AJFAam021470 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:15:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 49241 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jun 2005 19:15:10 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:15:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The nicest people Message-ID: <20050610191510.GC42328@words-l.org> References: <8865866a0506100541465f1a1d@mail.gmail.com> <20050610155205.GA32812@words-l.org> <20050610172425.GE24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050610172425.GE24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 07:24:25PM +0200, steph wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:52:05AM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > = On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:41:46PM +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: > = > I find the nicest people to be British, at least in those kinds of > = > situations. However, I'm always the guest and they are the innkeepers. > = > = Agreed ... in my very meager experience, and nothing to do with > = hotels. They also seem to be the only ones properly educated and > = free of bizarre beliefs. > > I work with at least one un-nice, poorly-educated, bizarrely-beliefed > Brit. I bet Roy knows a handful at least. So? I was making a statement about America. What are the sections of any given that end up in America, and end up staying? How do they vary with the nationality? How are they related to the stereotypes? These are very interesting questions... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 14:27:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AJRKee025891 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:27:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:27:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB46A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:27:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2900385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:27:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5AJHJhP021782 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:17:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 49972 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jun 2005 19:17:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:17:19 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Camera Thing Message-ID: <20050610191718.GA49859@words-l.org> References: <42A9D4CB.8070802@maynor.net> <003801c56de6$f27fe1e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A9DE27.7050508@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A9DE27.7050508@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:38:31PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Doris Markland wrote: > > >My camera gives me a choice. I assumed they > >all do. I have the Kodak LS743. Very small. > >Great pictures. I love it. > > Nope. There is no way to operate mine manually. You take pictures with your feet? HAR From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:10:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ALANee005072 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:10:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:10:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067772A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:00:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:00:18 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AL0IaF006832 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:00:18 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5AL0Hi8025500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:00:17 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5AL0GT9025498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:00:16 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:00:16 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050610210016.GA25456@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> <20050610164734.GB24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050610190831.GB42328@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050610190831.GB42328@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:08:31PM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: = On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 06:47:34PM +0200, steph wrote: = > = Betty's advice to wait another year and buy a better one = > = than you could today seems apt. = > = = > = Pete = > = > Yes, but that's always true. That's part of why I just got my first = > digital camera last year! = = To use your words, it's "especially" true now. Yes, that's right. It's always true, but it's especially true now! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:12:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ALCTee005222 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:12:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:12:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4A62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:02:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2909030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:02:29 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AL2S1G007278 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:02:29 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5AL2SEP025528 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:02:28 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5AL2R67025526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:02:27 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:02:27 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Camera Thing Message-ID: <20050610210227.GB25456@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42A9D4CB.8070802@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A9D4CB.8070802@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:58:35PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = I'd really like to have a camera that had manual rather than automatic = flash. Most times the automatic flash works fine, but there are odd = times when I'd rather be able to choose whether to flash or not to flash. = I have a Canon A85, and I can leave it set on automatic and turn off the flash. The flash is too bright and I have a lot of pictures where everthing looks washed out. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:53:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ALr6ee009508 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:53:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:53:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4BD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2911623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:06 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ALr6sx012798 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:06 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610215306.RLAW10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610215305.TYTA25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA0BBF.3080207@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:53:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Camera Thing References: <42A9D4CB.8070802@maynor.net> <42A9DDA9.9030503@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42A9DDA9.9030503@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > On my Canons, you have to take it out of the green "auto-everything" > mode and put it on "P", which still leaves aperture and exposure on > automatic, but allows you change other settings like flash. I don't know nothing bout no P. And am feeling unmotivated to explore the settings on my old camera now that I'm on the verge of buying a new one. I do remember handing it to my uncle's friend Luis, who is majorly into photography, to see whether he could figure out how to make it flash when it wasn't dark outside -- we needed flash on the faces for the pictures I was taking on the balcony in Sitges. He studied it and couldn't find any way to change it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 16:54:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ALrwee009594 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:53:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:54:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4BD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2911659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:57 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ALrvq4012862 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:57 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610215357.RLOE10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610215357.TYZE25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA0BF3.2090804@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:53:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Camera Thing References: <42A9D4CB.8070802@maynor.net> <003801c56de6$f27fe1e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A9DE27.7050508@maynor.net> <20050610191718.GA49859@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050610191718.GA49859@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>Nope. There is no way to operate mine manually. >> >> > >You take pictures with your feet? HAR > > Yep. And I send my pedually taken pictures to the foot-in-mouth artists organization. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:18:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AMIHee012814 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:18:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:18:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4C58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:18:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2912699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:18:16 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AMIGei018320 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:18:16 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610221816.TTIL2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:18:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610221816.NOUB8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:18:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:18:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Potato Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Since y'all have done an outstanding job of answering my pixel questions, I now have a potato question -- really two questions -- will ask the second one (the one I thought about later) first: I never put baking potatoes or sweet potatoes in the refrigerator. They live in the bowl that holds stuff like apples and bananas. But somehow these little red potatoes I bought today struck me as wanting to be in the refrigerator. Maybe it's because they were in a bin near stuff like green beans and lettuce, as opposed to the bigger potatoes, which were in the center bins near stuff like onions and apples. Does refrigrating these little potatoes seem ? I will be using them tomorrow, so we're not talking about a long-term situation. The original question: I think I mentioned before that when I was making this potato salad for the first time a couple of weeks ago, I suddenly realized that the recipe was vague re the cooking of the potatoes. I'm used to recipes that say things like "put [whatever] into a pan with [however much] water, bring to a boil, cover, reduce heat and simmer for [x length of time]." This recipe simply says "Bring potatoes and water to cover to a boil. Cook 25 to 30 minutes or just until tender." I guess this question isn't really important since they turned out to be quite good when I did them before, but I'm wondering whether I was supposed to cover them and what the heat setting was supposed to be during that 25-30 minutes. I did not cover them before since there was nothing in the recipe saying that I should. I did turn the heat down slightly since it didn't seem right to me for them to be boiling wildly for that long. I turned it down from Hi to something like 7 or 8, I think. Did I do right? (As I said, the pudding proof says yes since the stuff turned out to be quite good.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 17:23:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5AMNDee013176 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:23:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:23:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006779CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:23:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2912813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:23:11 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AMNAfJ018750 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:23:10 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111931178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:23:10 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610152352.02795a10@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:24:29 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://tinyurl.com/bhedd At 09:41 AM 6/10/2005, you wrote: >This URL gave me a choice of mountaineering equipment or baby stuff. > >? > >Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:21:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ANKjee019048 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:20:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:21:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4D0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:09:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:09:07 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AN97sW023435 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:09:07 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AE75F34EF71E4 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:09:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c56e11$5db21b20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> <42AA1CBC.5000307@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Potato Question Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:08:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Potato Question > bonniemaev wrote: > >> You need not refrigerate. >> >> > Next question: Is it bad that they are in the refrigerator right now? > Should I remove them? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Sure. The reason you don't keep potatoes in the frig is that they turn sweet in there. They keep their natural taste when not refrigerated. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:21:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ANKjee019043 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:20:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:21:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4CE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:00:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:00:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AN0iW3022717 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:00:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so844214wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.104.20 with SMTP id b20mr1364078wrc; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:00:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CRNYU4p8qh9boSrB7jOkYKVVhr0SjfDE3TvqhfLPlLN2f2j1ln71+oxB+rMU9arXJ0XttEw4k+NFTseMlCqUXUsOHz8GxvB4+uVKliWYkx62v7iLoMTeAOPHeovgw3Lppx3aggEpzryBVvAnAbrOkc6zT3OHULwO+MDN2D8MD5Q= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:00:44 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Potato Question In-Reply-To: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ANKjee019043 > Does refrigrating > these little potatoes seem ? I will be using them tomorrow, so > we're not talking about a long-term situation. > -- Natalie You need not refrigerate. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:21:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ANKjee019049 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:20:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:21:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4D2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:12:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:12:50 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ANCobY024112 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:12:50 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610231250.VBLG13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:12:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610231250.IQIF1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:12:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA1E70.3070401@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:12:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Potato Question References: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> <42AA1CBC.5000307@maynor.net> <000801c56e11$5db21b20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000801c56e11$5db21b20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > The reason you don't keep potatoes in the frig > is that they turn sweet in there. They keep > their natural taste when not refrigerated. Thank you! I shall go remove them right now. What had me wondering was that these little red potatoes live in a different place in the grocery store from the regular potatoes -- as in they live where the produce lives, as opposed to where the produce lives. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:21:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ANKjee019046 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:20:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:21:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4D0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:05:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:05:35 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5AN5Zou023106 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:05:35 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610230535.USZC13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:05:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610230534.INYH1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:05:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA1CBC.5000307@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:05:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Potato Question References: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > You need not refrigerate. > > Next question: Is it bad that they are in the refrigerator right now? Should I remove them? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:32:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ANW1ee020196 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:32:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:32:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB4D18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:21:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2915070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:21:55 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ANLsSk025206 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:21:55 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610232153.VLGX13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:21:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610232153.ITCN1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:21:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA208E.5060708@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:21:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The "Under-Classes" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Re our discussion of those who do things like yard work: I went out and talked to Darrell this afternoon when he was doing the yard next-door, which he does every week -- he does mine every two weeks. I was asking him about possibly doing mine today instead of next Friday since I'm having a party next Thursday night and since the rain we've had plus the rain we're about to have will turn my yard into a major jungle by Thursday night, the night before his normal cutting time for me would be. (The end of that conversation is that he's going to do it Wednesday since he's going to be working in this general vicinity Wednesday and would find that more convenient than today, plus making it look perfect for my party, which I told him was not crucial -- that I didn't really care all that much.) But the point of this posting is that Darrell, a large, gray-bearded African American whose profession is cutting grass, looked at my t-shirt and said, "Have you been to Israel?" I said, "No" and looked at my shirt to see why he asked. It's a "peace" t-shirt that has a dove in the middle and "peace" written in various languages. He said, "I noticed the Hebrew on your shirt." He then went on to pronounce it and parse it and whatever. I don't remember now what all he said. I asked him if he had studied Hebrew, and he nodded yes. Anyway, I thought that was interesting since I don't know how many large, gray-bearded grass-cutters in Jackson, Mississippi, have studied Hebrew. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 18:45:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ANj5ee021448 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:45:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:45:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4DB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:45:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2915778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:45:03 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ANj3AO027345 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:45:03 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610234502.GVPU22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:45:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050610234502.CYPF13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:45:02 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA25FC.7090502@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:45:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Green Tomato Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just went out to survey my tomato garden and noticed that a rather large tomato, still green, had fallen to the ground. (I lost a whole branch full of blooms and small tomatoes to a rain storm recently. That was sad.) I picked up the green tomato and thought that maybe I should fry it, but then I realized that I don't know how and that it would no doubt involve creating batter, something else I don't know how to do. My mother occasionally fixed fried green tomatoes, but I don't know what she did re batter. She did not consider herself much of a cook and told me that what her mother said to her when she was young was "anybody who can read can cook" -- iow, don't worry about it -- just read recipes and follow them when the time comes in your life when you need to cook. (I don't remember much about my grandmother's cooking except that she made outstanding boiled custard.) Anyway, I decided to forget it and just tossed the green tomato back to the ground. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 19:10:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B0Aree023961 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:10:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:10:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB4DDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:10:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2916653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:10:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B0ArDH029202 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:10:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so858871wra for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.129.1 with SMTP id b1mr1369279wrd; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:10:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=j9cohr+CdzyyPH+y3eueEYy1LfjlZvZDOkOIDvhae7YHwrSc5EzYM7rDNRUy8tibfTyP3ABfeC3OesqdQNoiC8/9ObMhcU+IpPSJsTQ1OvN6VMce3Z8ke62Z3bssO74lBA/1XqowUvh0YjlTiB0WdTSZ6FVha5yQ4S4hHJfqJ38= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:10:51 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Green Tomato In-Reply-To: <42AA25FC.7090502@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AA25FC.7090502@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5B0Aree023961 > > My mother occasionally fixed fried green tomatoes, but I don't know what > she did re batter. She did not consider herself much of a cook and told > me that what her mother said to her when she was young was "anybody who > can read can cook" -- iow, don't worry about it -- just read recipes and > follow them when the time comes in your life when you need to cook. (I > don't remember much about my grandmother's cooking except that she made > outstanding boiled custard.) Anyway, I decided to forget it and just > tossed the green tomato back to the ground. -- Natalie Don't you have a cookbook? Do you not know how to google? -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 19:25:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B0Ovee025276 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:24:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:25:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00677A82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:24:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2916738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:24:57 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B0EueK029410 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:14:56 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5B0Ec5i032189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:14:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:14:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: http://tinyurl.com/bhedd Ah - so you pasted the two lines together and then downsized! Great! Thanks! (How does one know when to paste them together?) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 19:27:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B0RJee025449 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:27:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:27:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00677A89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:27:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2916814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:27:18 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B0HInU029614 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:17:18 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5B0H01C000724 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:17:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:17:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: sakky Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: > What's a Sally >store? > > Another example like addy -- a Salvation Army store. I would think that would be a Salvy. ? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 19:30:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B0ULee025691 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:30:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:30:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4E68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:30:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2916900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:30:21 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B0KKKL029875 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:20:20 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5B0K3of002163 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:20:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:20:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: packing for a month Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I finally remembered that I once lived out of a 28-lb suitcase during a summer (really 2+ months) in Europe - packing for a month away now seems simple. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 19:50:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B0odee027389 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:50:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:50:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4EC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:50:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2917535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:50:39 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5B0ecmQ031441 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:40:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 30561 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Jun 2005 00:40:38 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:40:38 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050611004038.GA29922@words-l.org> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> <42A98844.7070108@istori.com> <20050610164734.GB24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050610190831.GB42328@words-l.org> <20050610210016.GA25456@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050610210016.GA25456@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:00:16PM +0200, steph wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:08:31PM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > = On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 06:47:34PM +0200, steph wrote: > = > = Betty's advice to wait another year and buy a better one > = > = than you could today seems apt. > = > = > = > = Pete > = > > = > Yes, but that's always true. That's part of why I just got my first > = > digital camera last year! > = > = To use your words, it's "especially" true now. > > Yes, that's right. It's always true, but it's especially true now! An especially unique way of putting it. I concur. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 20:13:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B1DOee029746 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:13:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:13:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4EBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:53:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2917730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:53:24 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5B0hNFb031966 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:43:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 31234 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Jun 2005 00:43:23 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:43:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky Message-ID: <20050611004323.GB29922@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They have a short form for Saks? Damn From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 20:13:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B1DOee029747 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:13:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:13:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4EE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:13:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:13:14 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B13EAo001819 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:03:14 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5B12ubg000612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:02:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:03:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: should be Sally Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Re: sakky They have a short form for Saks? Damn I suppose I am finally going to have to start looking at the screen occasionally when I am typo-ing. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 20:13:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B1Deee029811 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:13:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:13:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4EFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:13:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:13:40 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B1De2V002563 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:13:40 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611011340.WFFB2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:13:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611011339.OWQH8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:13:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA3AC1.9030204@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:13:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Green Tomato References: <42AA25FC.7090502@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>outstanding boiled custard.) Anyway, I decided to forget it and just >>tossed the green tomato back to the ground. -- Natalie >> >> > Don't you have a cookbook? Do you not know how to google? > > I have lots of cookbooks. And I know how to google. The point was that that green tomato was not important enough to me to research the matter. I am confident that I do not have in my house the necessary ingredients for a frying batter. And I would not be willing to make a special trip to a grocery store in honor of that one green tomato. And besides -- I had fried green tomatoes just a few days ago in the MSU cafeteria. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 20:15:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B1FJee029926 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:15:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:15:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4EFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:15:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:15:19 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B1FJGt002685 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:15:19 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611011518.WFNP2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:15:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611011518.OWWR8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:15:18 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:15:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Another example like addy -- a Salvation Army store. > > >I would think that would be a Salvy. > > I dunno. I just know that I've heard it called Sally here on Words-L Haven't heard that in ftf life -- but I haven't heard addy in ftf life either. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 20:35:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B1Zfee032271 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:35:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:35:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4F33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:35:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:35:40 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B1ZeKG004006; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:35:40 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111981284; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:35:39 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610183623.02791020@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:36:56 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: The "Under-Classes" In-Reply-To: <42AA208E.5060708@maynor.net> References: <42AA208E.5060708@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:21 PM 6/10/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >But the point of this posting is that Darrell, a large, gray-bearded >African American whose profession is cutting grass, looked at my t-shirt >and said, "Have you been to Israel?" I said, "No" and looked at my >shirt to see why he asked. It's a "peace" t-shirt that has a dove in >the middle and "peace" written in various languages. He said, "I >noticed the Hebrew on your shirt." He then went on to pronounce it and >parse it and whatever. I don't remember now what all he said. I asked >him if he had studied Hebrew, and he nodded yes. Anyway, I thought that >was interesting since I don't know how many large, gray-bearded >grass-cutters in Jackson, Mississippi, have studied Hebrew. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) The under classes are usually much more fun to converse with. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 20:36:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B1aTee032414 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:36:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:36:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4F34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:36:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:36:29 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B1aSuO004124 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:36:29 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111981478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:36:28 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610183719.027da7f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:37:45 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A Green Tomato In-Reply-To: References: <42AA25FC.7090502@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:10 PM 6/10/2005, you wrote: > > > > My mother occasionally fixed fried green tomatoes, but I don't know what > > she did re batter. She did not consider herself much of a cook and told > > me that what her mother said to her when she was young was "anybody who > > can read can cook" -- iow, don't worry about it -- just read recipes and > > follow them when the time comes in your life when you need to cook. (I > > don't remember much about my grandmother's cooking except that she made > > outstanding boiled custard.) Anyway, I decided to forget it and just > > tossed the green tomato back to the ground. -- Natalie > > Don't you have a cookbook? Do you not know how to google? > >-- >--bonniev WTF?? It's MFTATL. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 20:37:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B1bEee032500 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:37:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:37:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4F24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:37:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:37:14 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B1bDIJ004245 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:37:13 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111981556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:37:13 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610183806.027e61b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:38:30 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:14 PM 6/10/2005, you wrote: >Betty: > >http://tinyurl.com/bhedd > >Ah - so you pasted the two lines together and then downsized! Great! >Thanks! (How does one know when to paste them together?) > >Bethany I copied and pasted the whole mess and put it into tinyurl.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 20:54:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B1sVee001979 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:54:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:54:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4F48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:54:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2919354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:54:31 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B1sUch005424 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:54:30 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611015430.HIVI13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:54:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611015430.EQQB25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:54:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA4454.1050704@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:54:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The "Under-Classes" References: <42AA208E.5060708@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610183623.02791020@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610183623.02791020@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > The under classes are usually much more fun to converse with. I dunno. My idea of who is or isn't among them is kind of fuzzy. I do know that I'm happy to be sitting here at my computer tonight instead of answering phones for donaters to Mississippi Public Broadcasting, which is what I had earlier thought I'd be doing tonight. My gut feeling is that most of the calls are from non-under-classers. The downside is that tonight was canceled (whatever that means -- that's what the person who called me said) and that instead I will be doing it tomorrow night. Maybe all the above classes will be out wining and dining on a Saturday night, and the phones won't do much ringing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 21:30:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B2Udee006099 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:30:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:30:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4FC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:30:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:30:38 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B2UcxT007343 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:30:38 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611023038.DUMR13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:30:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611023038.DQZA11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:30:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:30:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Final Camera Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And I don't know why I'm even asking since I've just upped and ordered the camera, meaning that answers to this question can't influence my decision. But is an SD card any different from the flashcards I already have? This camera's specs say that it uses an "SD card." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 21:37:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B2bQee006740 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:37:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:37:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4FD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B2bPwA007904 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so928626nzo for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.19 with SMTP id m19mr1587978nzm; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:37:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NBS9yUY4AeeqrPGihsNpEPDwasJuIdDV3s7ZRfXtNls+CswJp3bCAmDco04iifFnnGQ9+DIAtWlYn1KyAsXJIQv25f+4/mMc48cttlvsYs+wUD00+XFblX9xu/wRU9HEAnf66RGVSm98bx9p9KkzHO3+sb9jtUBncHCV5zNvZ+o= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050610193721872bc6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:37:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Final Camera Question In-Reply-To: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5B2bPwA007905 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > And I don't know why I'm even asking since I've just upped and ordered > the camera, meaning that answers to this question can't influence my > decision. But is an SD card any different from the flashcards I already > have? This camera's specs say that it uses an "SD card." There are several different kinds of cards that go in cameras. Why don't you look at your current camera card and see what it says. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 21:39:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B2dDee006966 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:39:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:39:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00677D45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:39:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:39:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B2dD4q008050 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:39:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1119721nzp for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.1 with SMTP id n1mr1573277nzc; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:39:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZV/sFnXb66MuqQSSNYQKNmEIieNSa10r3AmAC8y980qV0B6YH0ypuajc+5ufr4AjWwUjgMsKLUY3U8WtZABuodO9PoCFy21DMG4P60QWaQ59rw3hCqvoRZc2Swl99D86LHUpJIFMErUjvgMG4v5AExUdv+yPmxfS3KXnDPw3FQM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506101939415913ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:39:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5B2dD4q008051 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Betty: > > http://tinyurl.com/bhedd > > Ah - so you pasted the two lines together and then downsized! Great! > Thanks! (How does one know when to paste them together?) When they don't a) go to the right place, or b) work at all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 21:39:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B2deee007010 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:39:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:39:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB4FA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:39:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:39:40 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B2deqV008101 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:39:40 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611023940.EHGV13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:39:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611023939.DVEG11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:39:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:39:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Crappola Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Best Buy sales person was right re the phasing out of CF. I just read this re the camera I just bought: ******* The Vari-Angle LCD is now 1.8 in., and the camera has switched from using CompactFlash (CF) to SecureDigital (SD) memory cards. A Super Macro mode allows you to shoot as close as the front element of the lens. ******* from: http://www.photoxels.com/canon-s2-is.html I wouldn't care so much if I had not just a couple of weeks ago bought another CF card -- to add to the two I already had (three counting the tiny one that came with the camera, but I don't even know where it is). So now I bet I have to go out and buy larger versions of the card that comes with the camera -- and I bet they cost more. I do not necessarily regret my decision to buy a new camera -- in fact, I don't regret it at all. But I do regret not having paid more addition to this card business. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 21:40:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B2eiee007112 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:40:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:40:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4FE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:40:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:40:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B2eeHm008272 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:40:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so929288nzo for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.15 with SMTP id t15mr861773nzg; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:40:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bqR8eljzN9k9W0xuopvTq1P/WPHUUliBddtHUWaiY2UPh/y8l2RZT0TFf6JJcnME6H6JQqYh3w595fjxIarDHDZITRIE2hUUORPVrLYjoKy7bGND10vV+scdTZdF7PVFN3i8w/Gfdf3/olph/Zua8rMfW+AsMQ2O57hbQ66rsiw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061019407eda6b18@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:40:40 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5B2eeHm008273 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Natalie: > > What's a Sally > >store? > > > > > Another example like addy -- a Salvation Army store. > > > I would think that would be a Salvy. > > ? It's not. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 21:41:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B2fFee007145 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:41:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:41:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB4FF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B2fEfK008346 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611024114.EJLM13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611024114.DVWU11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA4F48.3010707@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:41:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Final Camera Question References: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050610193721872bc6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050610193721872bc6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>And I don't know why I'm even asking since I've just upped and ordered >>the camera, meaning that answers to this question can't influence my >>decision. But is an SD card any different from the flashcards I already >>have? This camera's specs say that it uses an "SD card." >> >> > >There are several different kinds of cards that go in cameras. Why >don't you look at your current camera card and see what it says. > > ? I know what kind of cards I've been using -- CF cards. I don't need to look at one of them to know that. We were discussing CF cards earlier today re the possible change to other kinds of cards. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 21:45:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B2j3ee007402 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:45:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:45:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4FEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:45:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:45:02 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B2j2OL008501 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:45:02 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB4FB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:45:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200506110245.j5B2j2OL008501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:45:02 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A Green Tomato To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:45:00 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I just went out to survey my tomato garden and noticed that a rather >large tomato, still green, had fallen to the ground. (I lost a whole >branch full of blooms and small tomatoes to a rain storm recently. That >was sad.) I picked up the green tomato and thought that maybe I should >fry it, but then I realized that I don't know how and that it would no >doubt involve creating batter, something else I don't know how to do. >My mother occasionally fixed fried green tomatoes, but I don't know what >she did re batter. She did not consider herself much of a cook and told >me that what her mother said to her when she was young was "anybody who >can read can cook" -- iow, don't worry about it -- just read recipes and >follow them when the time comes in your life when you need to cook. (I >don't remember much about my grandmother's cooking except that she made >outstanding boiled custard.) Anyway, I decided to forget it and just >tossed the green tomato back to the ground. > This is a very sad story. Frying green tomatoes is one of the easiest preps we do. Slice the tomatoes evenly - maybe 1/4" thick, then put a little flour, salt, and pepper on the plate. Coat the tomato slices on both sides, and put in a pan with hot oil - not a thin coating of oil, but perhaps an eighth of an inch deep, at medium high heat. Fry on one side for about 3-5 minutes, till the "batter" turns light brown, then turn and cook on the other side. Variants - dip in egg first, then flour; or mix egg and flour to make "batter". You can also make various fancier batters, but why? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 21:46:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B2kIee007498 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:46:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:46:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB4FF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:46:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:46:14 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B2kE39008728 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:46:14 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB4FB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:46:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200506110246.j5B2kE39008728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:46:14 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A Green Tomato To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:13:37 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniemaev wrote: > >>>outstanding boiled custard.) Anyway, I decided to forget it and just >>>tossed the green tomato back to the ground. -- Natalie >>> >>> >> Don't you have a cookbook? Do you not know how to google? >> >> >I have lots of cookbooks. And I know how to google. The point was that >that green tomato was not important enough to me to research the >matter. I am confident that I do not have in my house the necessary >ingredients for a frying batter. And I would not be willing to make a >special trip to a grocery store in honor of that one green tomato. > >And besides -- I had fried green tomatoes just a few days ago in the MSU >cafeteria. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I'm eyeing the young plants beside our porch very eagerly. Any day now... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:12:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3CEee010120 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:12:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:12:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB521A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:04:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2924995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:04:57 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B34vTc011686 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:04:57 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611030457.XTPX2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:04:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611030457.PPHA8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:04:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA54D7.6090402@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:04:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Green Tomato References: <200506110246.j5B2kE39008728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506110246.j5B2kE39008728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >I'm eyeing the young plants beside our porch very eagerly. Any day now... > > I still hate that I planted the wrong kind of tomatoes this year -- the kind that take 90 days instead of 60 days to . I would've been eating tomatoes for a good while now if I had gotten the 60-day kind since I planted them March-the-whatever -- Maundy Thursday (was going to do the usual Good Friday thing but decided the day before that it was silly to wait another day). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:12:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3CEee010119 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:12:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:12:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5128@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:02:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:02:08 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B328ed010851 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:02:08 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611030208.XSVJ2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:02:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611030207.POSL8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:02:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA542D.9000603@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:02:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Green Tomato References: <200506110245.j5B2j2OL008501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506110245.j5B2j2OL008501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >This is a very sad story. Frying green tomatoes is one of the easiest > > Sad because of the death of that one green tomato, or sad because I don't know how to fry things? >little flour, salt, and pepper on the plate. Coat the tomato slices on >both sides, and put in a pan with hot oil - not a thin coating of oil, > > Re what I said earlier about not having the batter ingredients on hand, I do have three of them. I have salt and pepper, and I have oil. But I don't think I have any flour. I had some before I moved, but I'm pretty sure I tossed it before the move. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:13:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3DAee010260 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:13:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:13:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5238@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:13:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:13:09 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3D97g012354 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:13:09 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DA6BE8C5 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610093313.0273beb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:13:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 9:33 AM -0700 6/10/2005, Betty Clark wrote: >At 09:19 AM 6/10/2005, you wrote: >>Does anybody have any of the clambake pictures online -- or specifically >>a picture of Brad from clambake? I remember taking one of him sitting >>on a rail on the porch -- a picture that was in our vanished picture >>gallery. I'm sure I have the print of it in a shoebox, but my scanner >>is disconnected and possibly non-functional. > >Was Ken there? He had great albums of Wordslers. There was a Ken there, but it wasn't me, as Clambake pre-dates me by three or four years. I not only had those albums, I still have them. I've never really had the time to scan them and get them online, but it's on my to-do list, especially for some photos of Brad. Ken Miller Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:15:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3F7ee010486 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:15:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:15:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5253@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:15:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:15:07 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3F7Ie012496 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:15:07 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611031507.XWZC2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:15:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611031506.PRKQ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:15:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA5738.5060109@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:15:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >There was a Ken there, but it wasn't me, as Clambake pre-dates me by three >or four years. > > There was no Ken there. I did stop and visit Ken Wolman in Wayne, NJ, in route to Clambake and then again on the way home, but he did not attend the fest. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:21:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3LKee010670 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5269@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:17:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:17:08 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3H8BU012770 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:17:08 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5255@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:17:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200506110317.j5B3H8BU012770@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:17:08 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A Green Tomato To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:04:55 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>I'm eyeing the young plants beside our porch very eagerly. Any day now... >> >> >I still hate that I planted the wrong kind of tomatoes this year -- the >kind that take 90 days instead of 60 days to . I would've >been eating tomatoes for a good while now if I had gotten the 60-day >kind since I planted them March-the-whatever -- Maundy Thursday (was >going to do the usual Good Friday thing but decided the day before that >it was silly to wait another day). > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It's the planting date that's making them take so long - that'll larn ya! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:21:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3LKee010669 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB527B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:20:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:20:04 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3K4hn013128 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:20:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA4EBE8BF for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:19:57 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>> When you use a phrase, it means exactly whatever you want it to mean. > >>Heh ... brilliant allusion. Shakespeare? > >Think Humpty-Dumpty. > >Bethany The Unthirlable One and I have been carrying on with this sort of pseudo-banter ever since ever. Just don't get him started on Wodehouse. Or Brandom. Ken Miller John Lyly Institute of Euphuestic Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:21:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3LKee010666 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5245@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:16:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:16:12 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3GCaR012614 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:16:12 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5209@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:16:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200506110316.j5B3GCaR012614@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:16:12 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A Green Tomato To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:02:05 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>This is a very sad story. Frying green tomatoes is one of the easiest >> >> >Sad because of the death of that one green tomato, or sad because I >don't know how to fry things? > >>little flour, salt, and pepper on the plate. Coat the tomato slices on >>both sides, and put in a pan with hot oil - not a thin coating of oil, >> >> >Re what I said earlier about not having the batter ingredients on hand, >I do have three of them. I have salt and pepper, and I have oil. But I >don't think I have any flour. I had some before I moved, but I'm pretty >sure I tossed it before the move. > It did cross my mind as not being so likely in your kitchen as in mine. V and I have completely different cooking styles, which means that there's a wide array of "staples"* in our kitchen. *Depending on how you define staples. I keep blackstrap molasses and tofu on hand, for instance, which drives him nuts. On the other hand, he considers Bisquick and Pancake mix staples, while I ... don't. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:21:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3LKef010670 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB527F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:21:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:21:20 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3LKbJ013435 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:21:20 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611032120.XZAT2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:21:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611032119.PSSA8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:21:19 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA58AD.5060209@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Green Tomato References: <200506110316.j5B3GCaR012614@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506110316.j5B3GCaR012614@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >It did cross my mind as not being so likely in your kitchen as in mine. > >V and I have completely different cooking styles, which means that >there's a wide array of "staples"* in our kitchen. > > But is flour a staple? What do you use it for? Back when I used my bread machine I did use flour, but I quit using it ages ago and finally gave it to the church rummage sale. I find buying bread simpler. Also, the flour I had was whole-wheat, and something makes me think that the flour used for frying stuff like green tomatoes may be white flour. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:21:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3LKef010669 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5208@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:16:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:16:10 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3G9Qs012596 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:16:09 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EFCBE8BE for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1707415399.20050608134705@gailndan.com> References: <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:16:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Actual word question Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:47 PM -0700 6/8/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >Yeah, I understand y shortenings in principle. But if you're typing, >why not just addr instead of addy? And in speech, either one is two >syllables, thus not shorter? I don't think I've ever heard addy used >verbally, though imagine some do. Just find it one of those irritants >of certain email correspondents, most frequently among people on >yahoogroups. The thing that you're missing, Dan, is that addy has a certain playfulness to it that addr lacks. Addy is sort of flip and jaunty. Ken Miller Partridge School of Gentle Arts From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:37:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3b9ee012995 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB528C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:27:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:27:26 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3RQxu013757 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:27:26 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611032726.YAWH2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:27:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611032725.PTUJ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:27:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:27:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: AND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Having a different kind of card no doubt means a different card-reader -- iow, I have now got to buy a new card-reader. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:37:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3b9ee013000 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB524C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:33:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:33:02 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3X2xo014121 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:33:02 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 4A4F6BE8BF; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADBCC2849 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:33:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: New Urbanism Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was trying to understand a friend's daughter's M.A. paper topic, "new urbanist principles as applied to [an existing Michigan development]. "New Urbanism" : never heard of it! For anybody who wants a crash course, here's a site: http://www.cnu.org/ Is this Jane Jacobs? I mean, where does she fit into this, is there a direct line or was there a gap. I'm going to keep looking. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:37:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3b9ee012999 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5252@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:36:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:36:25 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3aPwm014342 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:36:25 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611033625.YDCV2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:36:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611033625.PVCD8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:36:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:36:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Larry scanned some Brad photos. Is Samant in charge of the words-l pages > now? Who should I send them to? Are there Words-L pages now? I thought they had died. I think it was RitaC, who is apparently no longer with us, who bitched about my bitching about the loss of the picture gallery. So maybe since she's gone I'll feel free to bitch again: I found the loss of that gallery horrifying. And I curse myself frequently for having stupidly trusted other Wordslers to keep it intact. I could have kept those pictures. But I didn't. I assumed that they would remain accessible to all of us. But they didn't. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:37:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3b9ef012995 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB525A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:37:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:37:26 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3bPZD014474 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:37:26 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112006606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:37:09 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203625.02737ca0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:38:24 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: AND In-Reply-To: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:27 PM 6/10/2005, you wrote: >Having a different kind of card no doubt means a different card-reader >-- iow, I have now got to buy a new card-reader. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) What camera did you end up buying? They are practically giving away card readers these days after MIR. Saw one for $10 just last week that read several different types of cards. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:37:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3b9ee012994 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5287@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:23:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:23:30 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3NUGH013548 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:23:30 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.224]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611032330.XZVT2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:23:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.224]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611032329.PTED8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:23:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42AA592F.6080202@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:23:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Green Tomato References: <200506110317.j5B3H8BU012770@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506110317.j5B3H8BU012770@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >It's the planting date that's making them take so long - that'll larn ya! > > No, they're very much on schedule. The problem was that I didn't read their cards until after I got home with them. I have in the past bought the 60-day kind, but these cards stated quite clearly that they were 90-day kind -- that it would be 90 days before I could eat them. And it has not yet been 90 days. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:37:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3b9ee013001 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:37:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5297@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:31:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:31:01 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3V15l014016 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:31:01 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112004072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:31:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:32:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I not only had those albums, I still have them. I've never really had the >time to scan them and get them online, but it's on my to-do list, >especially for some photos of Brad. > >Ken Miller >Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies Larry scanned some Brad photos. Is Samant in charge of the words-l pages now? Who should I send them to? I sent them to Stephanie who is in charge of the memorial service. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:48:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3mSee014316 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5288@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:48:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:48:12 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3mBkT015280 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:48:12 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112009085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:48:11 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:49:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:36 PM 6/10/2005, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>Larry scanned some Brad photos. Is Samant in charge of the words-l pages >>now? Who should I send them to? > >Are there Words-L pages now? I thought they had died. I think it was >RitaC, who is apparently no longer with us, who bitched about my >bitching about the loss of the picture gallery. So maybe since she's >gone I'll feel free to bitch again: I found the loss of that gallery >horrifying. And I curse myself frequently for having stupidly trusted >other Wordslers to keep it intact. I could have kept those pictures. >But I didn't. I assumed that they would remain accessible to all of >us. But they didn't. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) http://www.words-l.org/ It mentions Brad's passing and gives his web page. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:48:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3mSee014314 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB525D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:38:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:38:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3cRwl014564 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:38:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1109438nzk for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.4 with SMTP id h4mr1532988nzh; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:38:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SiUp/NddYNrhSTdXvexdQvhpgVVw46pcx13hE6WBlohM8RP2jSV7++7xhO8udEntw3HWj4P+Fk+WuicORFq90u4g1fARfL+/gQCQUmGZcb2i4yFiVNbiefVwE95P0QlK4Fz5m6xsS9nk0oUzZVazfkJoMuq+sT52xWgqK93kXNA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061020387c67a96f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:38:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Green Tomato In-Reply-To: <200506110316.j5B3GCaR012614@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506110316.j5B3GCaR012614@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5B3cSwl014565 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > *Depending on how you define staples. I keep blackstrap molasses and > tofu on hand, for instance, which drives him nuts. On the other hand, > he considers Bisquick and Pancake mix staples, while I ... don't. Nor I. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:48:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3mSee014317 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5275@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:44:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:44:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3itm3014955 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:44:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1136308nzp for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.1 with SMTP id n1mr1600017nzc; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:44:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=S+DDtJxiUJzw7y6tUuI2r/7CiAdU6dstkju33kQCEV2q1nbjhz5VMvXHb7jcFv3/uR6Bgp9G5Cmm+a0l/1sPU7HvgccRgqiZeoIoIaY3B7qncuV3gCrpggzYwfDdG1HiGhcxtyn+wzm5FK+rC4D+p+l46TpU/PbqKgg/VqqHYzs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061020446254f461@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:44:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crappola In-Reply-To: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5B3ium3014956 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > The Best Buy sales person was right re the phasing out of CF. It's an old technology. > I wouldn't care so much if I had not just a couple of weeks ago bought > another CF card -- to add to the two I already had (three counting the > tiny one that came with the camera, but I don't even know where it is). You can give your CF cards to me if you don't need them any more. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:48:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3mSee014315 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB52A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:41:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:41:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3fdq6014814 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:41:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so941523nzo for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.9 with SMTP id b9mr401654nzc; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:41:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LId1XkJszObOKvDTz9C5SqARCvO+wzmKai19XPmBA9leD9okNyM1SE73lo3vLd4LTrn7y21spphSalNQY8NaMtu8DcAi8hjVntIAEk380eiJSrYWRT7rXSH+ZizXjCDrdvpURMC5+QOp6m8yEqCBaDhc/X1VMiqTZriJBgRR/Y0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061020412dfda8e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:41:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Final Camera Question In-Reply-To: <42AA4F48.3010707@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050610193721872bc6@mail.gmail.com> <42AA4F48.3010707@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5B3feq6014815 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>And I don't know why I'm even asking since I've just upped and ordered > >>the camera, meaning that answers to this question can't influence my > >>decision. But is an SD card any different from the flashcards I already > >>have? This camera's specs say that it uses an "SD card." > >> > >> > > > >There are several different kinds of cards that go in cameras. Why > >don't you look at your current camera card and see what it says. > > > > > ? I know what kind of cards I've been using -- CF cards. I don't need > to look at one of them to know that. We were discussing CF cards > earlier today re the possible change to other kinds of cards. Well, SD cards are different from CF cards. They are not interchangeable. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:54:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3scee014779 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:54:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:54:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5295@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:54:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:54:33 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3sXpv015651 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:54:33 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB52E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:54:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200506110354.j5B3sXpv015651@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:54:32 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A Green Tomato To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:21:17 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>It did cross my mind as not being so likely in your kitchen as in mine. >> >>V and I have completely different cooking styles, which means that >>there's a wide array of "staples"* in our kitchen. >> >> >But is flour a staple? What do you use it for? Back when I used my >bread machine I did use flour, but I quit using it ages ago and finally >gave it to the church rummage sale. I find buying bread simpler. Also, >the flour I had was whole-wheat, and something makes me think that the >flour used for frying stuff like green tomatoes may be white flour. > This is kind of fun! Understand, I no longer do a "whole baking" (6-8 loaves of bread, specialty breads, muffins, "scones", cookies, 4-6 pies, Boston Brown bread, and yogurt and/or sourdough if I had the respective starters - a whole day spent baking for 1-2 weeks eating for a family) - I work too long hours, and no longer have young kids who need to be fed constantly - but here are things I might use flour for when I'm in the mood to cook at all and have 20 minutes to an hr: cornbread muffins banana bread pancakes or waffles pie dough (usually apple pie) roux for sauces and gravies coating for pan-fried items like green tomatoes or some meat recipes dumplings biscuits pizza As for white v wheat, I agree that the outcome wouldn't be your mother's recipe exactly, but then most of us had to get used to whole wheat in anything it's in - we were socialized to "storebought" white flour. We managed to get used to w.wh. pizza crusts; why not w.wh. on green tomatoes? Pretending for the moment that you wanted a little white flour on hand for roux and green tomatoes, aren't there little shaker-thingies with about 1/2 lb, for just that purpose? (not for a minute imagining you'd magically find it in your cupboard!) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 10 22:55:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B3t7ee014856 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:55:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:55:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB52E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:55:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:55:06 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B3t6ax015728 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:55:06 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB52D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:55:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200506110355.j5B3t6ax015728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:55:06 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A Green Tomato To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:23:27 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>It's the planting date that's making them take so long - that'll larn ya! >> >> >No, they're very much on schedule. The problem was that I didn't read >their cards until after I got home with them. I have in the past bought >the 60-day kind, but these cards stated quite clearly that they were >90-day kind -- that it would be 90 days before I could eat them. And it >has not yet been 90 days. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes. I was just joshin' ya. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:57:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B9vWee028786 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:57:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:57:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00678246@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 5:27:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2935169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:27:31 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B9RTMO005413 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:27:30 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5B9RSBV029281 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:27:28 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5B9RSrg029279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:27:28 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:27:28 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc? Message-ID: <20050611092728.GA29252@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610152352.02795a10@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610152352.02795a10@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ah, I have one something like that that when I get really fed up with work coffee I use. On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:24:29PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: = http://tinyurl.com/bhedd = = = At 09:41 AM 6/10/2005, you wrote: = >This URL gave me a choice of mountaineering equipment or baby stuff. = > = >? = > = >Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:57:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B9vWee028788 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:57:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:57:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00678149@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 5:34:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2935281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:34:25 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B9YOIP005781 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:34:25 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5B9YOcP029326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:34:24 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5B9YN7d029324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:34:23 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:34:23 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crappola Message-ID: <20050611093423.GB29252@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:39:37PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = The Best Buy sales person was right re the phasing out of CF. I just = read this re the camera I just bought: = Ah, you said they were going to phase out SD, when what you meant was that they're going to phase out CF. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 04:57:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5B9vWee028790 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:57:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:57:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00678307@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 5:38:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2935326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:38:59 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5B9cwvd006220 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:38:58 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5B9cvHa029366 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:38:57 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5B9cvna029364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:38:57 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:38:57 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service Message-ID: <20050611093857.GC29252@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:36:23PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = Betty Clark wrote: = = >Larry scanned some Brad photos. Is Samant in charge of the words-l pages = >now? Who should I send them to? = = Are there Words-L pages now? I thought they had died. I think it was = RitaC, who is apparently no longer with us, who bitched about my = bitching about the loss of the picture gallery. So maybe since she's = gone I'll feel free to bitch again: I found the loss of that gallery = horrifying. And I curse myself frequently for having stupidly trusted = other Wordslers to keep it intact. I could have kept those pictures. = But I didn't. I assumed that they would remain accessible to all of = us. But they didn't. = No, it was me. Get over it. Stop blaming yourself. What's gone is gone. But thank you for thinking of the Czarina instead of me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:26:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BBQIee006850 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:26:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:26:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5783@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 7:26:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2936099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:26:18 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BBQIJ3004652 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:26:18 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.155]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611112617.IQRA9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:26:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.155]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611112617.TVSH7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:26:17 -0400 Message-ID: <42AACA57.1070100@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:26:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crappola References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061020446254f461@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061020446254f461@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: > You can give your CF cards to me if you don't need them any more. I need to figure out what to do with the old camera. It makes sense for the cards to go with it. What do people do with old cameras? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:28:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BBSPee007102 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:28:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:28:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB57C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 7:28:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2936126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:28:25 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BBSOuR004726 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:28:25 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.155]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611112824.IRAN9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:28:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.155]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611112824.TVYJ7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:28:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42AACAD6.9090701@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:28:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Urbanism References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: >"New Urbanism" : never heard of it! For anybody who wants a crash >course, here's a site: http://www.cnu.org/ > > Neat. My rental house in Starkville is in a New Urbanist neighborhood: http://tinyurl.com/bbdhg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:30:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BBUiee007437 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:30:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:30:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB57D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 7:30:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2936267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:30:44 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BBUis3004974 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:30:44 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.155]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611113044.IRPO9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:30:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.155]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611113043.TWFS7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:30:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42AACB61.7050506@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:30:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203625.02737ca0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203625.02737ca0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > What camera did you end up buying? The current version of the one Pete recommended. > They are practically giving away card > readers these days after MIR. Saw one for $10 just last week that read > several different types of cards. What's MIR? I will explore the card situation (and card-reader situation) when I go pick up the camera later today. Even though I am not fond of Circuit City, I discovered in my shopping last night that its price was as good (better, iirc) than anybody else's. It offered the option of pick-up, so naturally I chose that option. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:31:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BBVkee007543 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:31:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:31:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006783E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 7:31:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2936345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:31:45 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BBVjkf005138 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:31:45 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.155]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611113145.IRTZ9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:31:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.155]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611113145.TWII7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:31:45 -0400 Message-ID: <42AACB9F.70401@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:31:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > http://www.words-l.org/ But there are only a few pictures there. More than 99% of the old gallery is gone. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 06:34:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BBYaee007821 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:34:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:34:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00678332@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 7:34:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2936388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:34:36 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BBYZNT005281 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:34:35 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.155]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611113435.ISNQ9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:34:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.155]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611113435.TWOR7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:34:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42AACC49.5000801@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:34:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Green Tomato References: <200506110354.j5B3sXpv015651@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506110354.j5B3sXpv015651@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Pretending for the moment that you wanted a little white flour on hand >for roux and green tomatoes, aren't there little shaker-thingies with >about 1/2 lb, for just that purpose? (not for a minute imagining you'd >magically find it in your cupboard!) > > I dunno. I've never made a roux in my life. It does seem reasonable, though, that there would be small amounts of flour available in stores. Then again, it makes sense that there would be small loaves of bread and small various other things, but there are not (at least not here -- as I've said before, I loved the tiny loaves of bread available in Japanese grocery stores and don't understand why they don't seem to exist in the US). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:08:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BC8nee012673 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:08:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:08:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB57A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 7:36:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2936431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:36:36 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BBaalx005445 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:36:36 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.155]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611113636.ISWV9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:36:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.155]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611113636.TWTB7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:36:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42AACCC2.2010207@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:36:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crappola References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> <20050611093423.GB29252@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050611093423.GB29252@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >Ah, you said they were going to phase out SD, when what you meant was >that they're going to phase out CF. > > Negative. 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Interesting item I found in Google: http://www.nutimeline.net/ You can a download from the "timeline of new urbanism" database for $5. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 07:49:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BCmwee018892 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:49:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:49:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006783AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 8:38:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:38:36 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BCcZaI010405 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:38:36 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-157.gwi.net [216.195.165.157]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5BCcVsl005975; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:38:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050611083348.01bfcf30@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:38:27 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: A Green Tomato In-Reply-To: <42AA58AD.5060209@maynor.net> References: <200506110316.j5B3GCaR012614@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42AA58AD.5060209@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:21 PM 6/10/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >But is flour a staple? It is here. We don't do as much with flour as does Clo. I have white, whole wheat, and rye flour--all of which go into my bread and pizza crust. The rye also (with the white) feeds the sourdough. I'll probably do a golden roux tonight for the mushroom gravy. I also have some rice flour, which is good for preventing gnocchi from sticking. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:16:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BDGsee022327 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:16:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:16:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB591F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:06:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:06:53 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BD6riE012914 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:06:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB590B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:06:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200506111306.j5BD6riE012914@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:06:53 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: The "Under-Classes" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The under classes are usually much more fun to converse with. > >Betty Yes ... "under" depending on one's measuring spoon. The NY Times has an interesting 11-part series on class ... the last installment runs tomorrow: http://www.nytimes.com/pages/national/class/index.html Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:17:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BDHDee022376 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:17:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:17:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5926@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:17:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:17:12 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BDHCrl013703 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:17:12 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB58EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:17:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200506111317.j5BDHCrl013703@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:17:11 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: The nicest people To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:15:10 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >So? I was making a statement about America. What are the sections of >any given that end up in America, and end up staying? >How do they vary with the nationality? How are they related to the >stereotypes? These are very interesting questions... Indeed. I've been conversing with a number of students of varying nationalities about related topics in our college writing center. They have a writing assignment to this effect (for someone else's class). Amy P.S. For what it's worth, Associated Press style is theatER (or at least used to be). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:24:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BDNuee023054 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:23:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:24:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006782FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:23:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:23:55 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BDNtrV014821 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:23:55 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68799060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:23:54 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611062424.028001f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:25:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc? In-Reply-To: <20050611092728.GA29252@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610152352.02795a10@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611092728.GA29252@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yeah, I'd rather have no coffee than bad coffee. Betty At 02:27 AM 6/11/2005, you wrote: >Ah, I have one something like that that when I get really fed up with >work coffee I use. > >On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:24:29PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >= http://tinyurl.com/bhedd >= >= >= At 09:41 AM 6/10/2005, you wrote: >= >This URL gave me a choice of mountaineering equipment or baby stuff. >= > >= >? >= > >= >Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:26:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BDQRee023397 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:26:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:26:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5955@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:26:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:26:27 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BDQRYJ015143 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:26:27 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68799331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:26:26 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611062611.0278f5b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:27:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Crappola In-Reply-To: <42AACA57.1070100@maynor.net> References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061020446254f461@mail.gmail.com> <42AACA57.1070100@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:26 AM 6/11/2005, you wrote: >A Friend of Andy wrote: > >>You can give your CF cards to me if you don't need them any more. > >I need to figure out what to do with the old camera. It makes sense for >the cards to go with it. What do people do with old cameras? > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Give them to a child or someone who doesn't have one. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:28:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BDSGee023558 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:28:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:28:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB591C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:28:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:28:12 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BDSCqQ015357; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:28:12 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68799574; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:28:11 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611062844.0273fba0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:29:31 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: AND In-Reply-To: <42AACB61.7050506@maynor.net> References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203625.02737ca0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AACB61.7050506@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:30 AM 6/11/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>What camera did you end up buying? > >The current version of the one Pete recommended. Excellent! Mail In Rebate=MIR From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:29:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BDSxee023674 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:29:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:29:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB596C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:28:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:28:59 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BDSxXE015386 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:28:59 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68799661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:28:58 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611062941.0278b440@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:30:18 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <42AACB9F.70401@maynor.net> References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AACB9F.70401@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:31 AM 6/11/2005, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>http://www.words-l.org/ > >But there are only a few pictures there. More than 99% of the old >gallery is gone. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, but . . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:45:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BDjpee025980 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:45:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:45:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067841D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:35:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:35:47 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BDZlES015798 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:35:47 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5968@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:35:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200506111335.j5BDZlES015798@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:35:46 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: La Comida Salvadore=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F1o?= To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John and I spotted an El Salvadoran restaurant a few blocks over a while back and we kept meaning to try it, so yesterday we did -- for lunch. VERY good. Nice people, nice food. We'll now have to explore the menu more. The place is un-yuppified and does not appear on any local "ethnic dining" lists. It also serves breakfast. That's what I want to try next. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 08:46:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BDjpee025978 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:45:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:45:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067840F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:25:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:25:50 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BDPo0b015018 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:25:50 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5948@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 9:25:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200506111325.j5BDPo0b015018@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:25:50 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:25:15 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >Yeah, I'd rather have no coffee than bad coffee. > >Betty EEEEEK! Either option is too frightening to ponder! We're having Ethiopian today (we're working our way through a sampler collection). Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:10:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BFAJee004392 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:10:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:10:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5A64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:00:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2941653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:00:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BF0vJP021902 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:00:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1072609nzo for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.19 with SMTP id m19mr1826311nzm; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:00:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q2jQJiefYn20g/LrjNQNYDH/2Fctx3kD5fxHjyAUTWE0WEvwtbZdJMnZ6Ggnk1Bmw3q72k+dr+92BGq7DgmwqjtkVaeJ3ySaHjWdX9RtW9ylhBoW5kpiXC9WUUJpMUlN4iz+GTWCysc+3/kgfdMLUGHNgvzbhE2lzbLS1uL/j1Y= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:00:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND In-Reply-To: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BF0vJP021903 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Having a different kind of card no doubt means a different card-reader > -- iow, I have now got to buy a new card-reader. Maybe, maybe not. Most card readers read multiple cards. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 10:10:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BFAJee004391 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:10:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:10:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5A4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:00:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2941641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:00:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BF0I73021875 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:00:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1072433nzo for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.9 with SMTP id b9mr613239nzc; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:00:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sFPx6uB0qpgi+aBd2U1tRxJiTa/Seo7P23VY+4PJEFpg7wLwHDftfoXoND6T1lSypYzulHWcZZFqO3xjc9YPbv0Nkmt34TDuS06Ax4UExqvPvMiZGJpTxmGcb5xpH5R40c7/v4xSD51EggkdmuyPDuhYz4Vj7+5xOmrJxv9uZEE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050611080079aa8a7b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:00:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BF0I73021876 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/10/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I think it was > RitaC, who is apparently no longer with us, who bitched about my > bitching about the loss of the picture gallery. So maybe since she's > gone I'll feel free to bitch again: Please don't. And don't ever think you don't know how to hold a grudge. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 11:58:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BGwOee018062 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:58:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:58:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5B91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:48:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:48:23 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BGmMN1030563 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:48:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5BGmKe1012186 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:48:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42AB15DD.5040100@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:48:29 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <20050611093857.GC29252@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050611093857.GC29252@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > >No, it was me. Get over it. Stop blaming yourself. What's gone is >gone. > Graham has a backup of the words-l web site he made in 1998 when I handed it off to Tushar. Archive.org might have other stuff. What happened to everything? -a From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:10:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHAcee019538 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:10:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:10:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5BB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:10:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:10:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5BH0cpW031398 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:00:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 69831 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Jun 2005 17:00:37 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:00:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050611170037.GA67744@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A word I hate: "flip" ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:11:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHBRee019593 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:11:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:11:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5BC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:11:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:11:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BHBQDN032039 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:11:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1104608nzo for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.15 with SMTP id t15mr1152879nzg; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:11:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pbX3yCsGBNlVTfbADN2d0PazZxKsRQc8R68CE7ARnsoPtlfIrfmAwBW59BkbXz4fOIj+oYE8S4LCes/41PnyfI4wIRoIkYHbwY6xjFNLIdqKu+LmkGEc/KIXjrXqMKMEqT0h/m0wwUMoffbwmmdmzdQQ/RyKjXmxGJFX3j00uUg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061110114f00bfdf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:11:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: <20050611170037.GA67744@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <20050611170037.GA67744@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BHBRDN032040 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > A word I hate: "flip" ... Because it's so often used to describe your speech? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:13:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHDSee019785 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:13:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:13:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5BB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:27 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BHDPK5032157 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:26 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5BHDNfn024485 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Lost pictures, lost brains In-Reply-To: <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Are there Words-L pages now? I thought they had died. I think it was > RitaC, who is apparently no longer with us, who bitched about my > bitching about the loss of the picture gallery. So maybe since she's > gone I'll feel free to bitch again: I found the loss of that gallery > horrifying. And I curse myself frequently for having stupidly trusted > other Wordslers to keep it intact. I could have kept those pictures. > But I didn't. I assumed that they would remain accessible to all of > us. But they didn't. I am also very unhappy about the loss of all those images. It makes me think about the loss of the Cornell Brain Collection. Cornell University used to have the world's largest collection of preserved brains, many of them the brains of famous people, criminals, etc. Even as recently as when I was a student there, one of the standard postcards for sale in Ithaca featured a scientist in a white lab coat posing next to a vast storehouse of glass jars, each containing a pickled brain. But somewhere along the line the brain collection was forced to move into storage, and the movers treated it carelessly. A lot of the glass jars were broken, and the identifying name tags were taken off and lost. After a few years in uncontrolled-climate storage, with no maintenance of the formaldehyde, almost all of the brains, er, went bad. Eventually all but a few were thrown away. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:16:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHG1ee019961 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:16:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:16:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5BBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:16:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:16:01 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BHG0Wj032328 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:16:01 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68833600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:15:58 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611101706.027ea8c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:17:16 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: <20050611170037.GA67744@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <20050611170037.GA67744@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:00 AM 6/11/2005, you wrote: >A word I hate: "flip" ... Did someone flip you off? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:17:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHHTee020073 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:17:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:17:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5B8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:17:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:17:29 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5BH7Si3031764 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:07:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 72956 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Jun 2005 17:07:28 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:07:28 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Urbanism Message-ID: <20050611170728.GB67744@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 08:33:02PM -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > I was trying to understand a friend's daughter's M.A. paper topic, "new > urbanist principles as applied to [an existing Michigan development]. > > "New Urbanism" : never heard of it! For anybody who wants a crash > course, here's a site: http://www.cnu.org/ > > Is this Jane Jacobs? I mean, where does she fit into this, is there a > direct line or was there a gap. > > I'm going to keep looking. Ha! One way she fits in is that Payton Chung is a member! He has managed to read through those books... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:21:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHKsee020343 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:20:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:21:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5BEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:20:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:20:54 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5BHArTJ032010 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:10:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 74830 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Jun 2005 17:10:53 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:10:53 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service Message-ID: <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 08:49:26PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 08:36 PM 6/10/2005, you wrote: > >Betty Clark wrote: > > > >>Larry scanned some Brad photos. Is Samant in charge of the words-l pages > >>now? Who should I send them to? > > > >Are there Words-L pages now? I thought they had died. I think it was > >RitaC, who is apparently no longer with us, who bitched about my > >bitching about the loss of the picture gallery. So maybe since she's > >gone I'll feel free to bitch again: I found the loss of that gallery > >horrifying. And I curse myself frequently for having stupidly trusted > >other Wordslers to keep it intact. I could have kept those pictures. > >But I didn't. I assumed that they would remain accessible to all of > >us. But they didn't. > > http://www.words-l.org/ > > It mentions Brad's passing and gives his web page. What picture gallery are you talking about? I have not gotten extremely involved in the words-l site. At some point I copied all I could from MEM's "placeholder" site, and I have made, to my knowledge, all of the (very few) changes people asked me to. If you describe the pictures, I will see if they have ended up on this server ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:21:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHLEee020385 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:21:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:21:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006785B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:21:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:21:14 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5BHBE5I032024 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:11:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 74935 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Jun 2005 17:11:13 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:11:13 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Green Tomato Message-ID: <20050611171113.GD67744@words-l.org> References: <200506110355.j5B3t6ax015728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506110355.j5B3t6ax015728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:55:06PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:23:27 -0500, Natalie Maynor > wrote: > > >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > >>It's the planting date that's making them take so long - that'll larn ya! > >> > >> > >No, they're very much on schedule. The problem was that I didn't read > >their cards until after I got home with them. I have in the past bought > >the 60-day kind, but these cards stated quite clearly that they were > >90-day kind -- that it would be 90 days before I could eat them. And it > >has not yet been 90 days. > > > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Yes. I was just joshin' ya. Were you being flip? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:22:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHMdee020511 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:22:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:22:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5BE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:22:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:22:39 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5BHCc0d032100 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:12:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 75357 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Jun 2005 17:12:38 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:12:38 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Urbanism Message-ID: <20050611171238.GE67744@words-l.org> References: <42AACAD6.9090701@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AACAD6.9090701@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 06:28:22AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Ann Borkin wrote: > > >"New Urbanism" : never heard of it! For anybody who wants a crash > >course, here's a site: http://www.cnu.org/ > > > > Neat. My rental house in Starkville is in a New Urbanist neighborhood: > > http://tinyurl.com/bbdhg Boring damn place, huh ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:28:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHRhee021025 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:27:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:28:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5BF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:27:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:27:43 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5BHHgdZ032452 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:17:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 77680 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Jun 2005 17:17:42 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:17:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The "Under-Classes" Message-ID: <20050611171742.GF67744@words-l.org> References: <200506111306.j5BD6riE012914@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506111306.j5BD6riE012914@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 09:06:53AM -0400, Mrs. Williams wrote: > >The under classes are usually much more fun to converse with. > > > >Betty > > Yes ... "under" depending on one's measuring spoon. > > The NY Times has an interesting 11-part series on class ... the last > installment runs tomorrow: > > http://www.nytimes.com/pages/national/class/index.html "Merit has replaced the old system of inherited privilege, in which parents to the manner born handed down the manor to their children. But merit, it turns out, is at least partly class-based." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:29:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHTPee021251 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:29:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:29:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5C0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:29:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:29:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BHTPHH000844 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:29:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1340710nzp for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr1878391nzd; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:29:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ih11GQ17DCZi7lfuwrqRzy7DxfmyiVAp4xQc2tdxZ/cYWETVRTQptFrePWwxtTTPc73sBz9ZBR6MJ85yHRj40gOUCQb/Zw6KJ2N+7/fs+ZpcuhIRvY9bjNv6iN+z97DkE0sYCqtZl6A3oAe6iZ2cSS1T9DOiCoFU5SV+B3iGOIU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050611102979b22b34@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:29:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lost pictures, lost brains In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BHTPHH000845 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > It makes me think about the loss of the Cornell Brain Collection. > > Cornell University used to have the world's largest collection of > preserved brains, many of them the brains of famous people, criminals, > etc. Even as recently as when I was a student there, one of the standard > postcards for sale in Ithaca featured a scientist in a white lab coat > posing next to a vast storehouse of glass jars, each containing a pickled > brain. Ugh. I used to have to go past them on the way to faculty meetings. > But somewhere along the line the brain collection was forced to move into > storage, and the movers treated it carelessly. A lot of the glass jars > were broken, and the identifying name tags were taken off and lost. > After a few years in uncontrolled-climate storage, with no maintenance of > the formaldehyde, almost all of the brains, er, went bad. Eventually all > but a few were thrown away. YaY! They should never have been in the hallway to begin with. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:39:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHdJee022163 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:39:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:39:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5C25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:39:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:39:19 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5BHdIC7001433 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:39:19 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061119373624875 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:37:36 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:39:06 +0200 Message-ID: <42AB21C4.3020109@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:39:16 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Packing References: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2005 17:39:06.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[77422120:01C56EAC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tomorrow I have to get up at 3:30 AM, and my ETA in Victoria is 18:02 local time, which is 3:02 AM Norwegian time. So it is close to a 24 hour trip. Some of that time is for waiting for a connection at Heathrow. I was first offered a connection with only one hour between arrival and departure at Heathrow, but that is far to short time for me to be comfortable about it, especially going to North America. On my way back there is a short time (about one hour), but for one thing the flights across the Atlantic often have some time to spare, and for another, if I lose my first connection to Oslo, there are many more during the day since I am supposed to land at Heathrow around 6:30 AM local UK time. I have packed my sextant and my Nautical Almanac, and hope to prove that I am clearly west of Oslo when I am in Victoria. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:43:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHhNee022395 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:43:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:43:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5BDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:43:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:43:23 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5BHhMMI001691 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:43:23 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061119414024882 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:41:40 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:43:10 +0200 Message-ID: <42AB22B9.20001@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:43:21 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Potato Question References: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2005 17:43:10.0506 (UTC) FILETIME=[08BF00A0:01C56EAD] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 11.06.2005 00:18: > > The original question: I think I mentioned before that when I was > making this potato salad for the first time a couple of weeks ago, I > suddenly realized that the recipe was vague re the cooking of the > potatoes. I'm used to recipes that say things like "put [whatever] into > a pan with [however much] water, bring to a boil, cover, reduce heat and > simmer for [x length of time]." This recipe simply says "Bring potatoes > and water to cover to a boil. Cook 25 to 30 minutes or just until > tender." I guess this question isn't really important since they turned > out to be quite good when I did them before, but I'm wondering whether I > was supposed to cover them and what the heat setting was supposed to be > during that 25-30 minutes. I did not cover them before since there was > nothing in the recipe saying that I should. I did turn the heat down > slightly since it didn't seem right to me for them to be boiling wildly > for that long. I turned it down from Hi to something like 7 or 8, I > think. Did I do right? (As I said, the pudding proof says yes since > the stuff turned out to be quite good.) Potatoes need different cooking times depending on size and the type of potato. So it is impossible to give exact cooking instructions. Potatoes don't mind whether they are boiling wildly or are just simmering - they might need a little longer time if the water isn't really boiling. Also, you don't need to cover the potatoes - they cook by damp as well, but again this might mean that they need longer time. Espen - from Norway where old fashioned peole don't think they have had a real meal unless there are boiled potatose - some even serve potatos with pasta or rice dishes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 12:45:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BHjnee022628 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:45:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:45:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5C21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:45:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:45:49 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BHjmTU001908 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:45:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so674205wri for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.18.68 with SMTP id 68mr1591558wrr; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.46 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:45:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JomCYj93uM1QX51xNakTxrqqkoCwJ2uogmSf8ZUFhagOwwi1TBjvJGaZr9owKmrWTVRmzclTt3xRSX7BOv2krBiCSt+MzEF+ogSah5RSoieVg7zmGIMwce+/HJYS1Ij99yt1qWqaMqmfc6WeLZluHA28iXUmwz8BwdfXmi1/IWc= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:45:48 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_La_Comida_Salvadore=F1o?= In-Reply-To: <200506111335.j5BDZlES015798@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506111335.j5BDZlES015798@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5BHjnee022628 On 6/11/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > > John and I spotted an El Salvadoran restaurant a few blocks over a while > back and we kept meaning to try it, so yesterday we did -- for lunch. > > VERY good. Nice people, nice food. What did you eat? -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:14:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIDree026136 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006786A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:53 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BI3rTd003011 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:53 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.117]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611180353.FVRE10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.117]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611180352.BVTZ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB2786.5040000@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:03:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That listing didn't copy very well. To see it more neatly, go here: ftp://ftp.msstate.edu/docs/words-l/index -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:14:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIDree026140 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006786AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:06:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:06:06 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BI66BB003185 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:06:06 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.117]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611180605.FWTM10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:06:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.117]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611180605.BWPG25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:06:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB280B.2020006@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:06:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Potato Question References: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> <42AB22B9.20001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42AB22B9.20001@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > Potatoes need different cooking times depending on size and the type of > potato. So it is impossible to give exact cooking instructions. Potatoes > don't mind whether they are boiling wildly or are just simmering - they > might need a little longer time if the water isn't really boiling. Also, > you don't need to cover the potatoes - they cook by damp as well, but > again this might mean that they need longer time. Thank you! The deed is already done now, though. I cooked them pretty much the same way I did last time, and they seemed to turn out fine. The goup is now in a bowl in the refrigerator. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:14:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIDree026139 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00678624@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:13:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:13:46 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BIDk2T003950 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:13:46 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D2CE42C1598C1 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c56eb1$412ad500$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Lost pictures, lost brains Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > But somewhere along the line the brain collection was forced to move into > storage, and the movers treated it carelessly. A lot of the glass jars > were broken, and the identifying name tags were taken off and lost. > After a few years in uncontrolled-climate storage, with no maintenance of > the formaldehyde, almost all of the brains, er, went bad. Eventually all > but a few were thrown away. > > Larry > > --- > Lawrence Kestenbaum Hm. That's a no-brainer. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:14:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIDxee026164 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5C3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:58:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:58:49 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BHwngF002680 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:58:49 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.117]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611175849.FRWI10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:58:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.117]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611175849.BTHA25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:58:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB2656.1020803@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:58:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crappola References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061020446254f461@mail.gmail.com> <42AACA57.1070100@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611062611.0278f5b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611062611.0278f5b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Give them to a child or someone who doesn't have one. Good possibility. Or wait for the next church rummage sale. Then again, it might be wise to have the old camera stuck in the car in case I run out of card space on the new one at some point and need to switch to the old one. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:14:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIDxee026159 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5C31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:53:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:53:59 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BHrxbU002366 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:53:59 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.117]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611175358.FOXD10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:53:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.117]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611175358.BRDS25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:53:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB252F.2010601@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:53:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: It Works! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I still have mysteries to solve like why I see nothing whatsoever through the view-finder. I just had to guess where to point the camera. But the camera works, the new card works, and the new card-reader works: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/NewCam/spencer.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:14:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIDxee026163 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5C35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:55:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:55:30 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BHtUoN002509 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:55:30 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.117]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611175529.FQAT10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:55:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.117]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611175529.BRYL25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:55:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB258F.2060806@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:55:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050611080079aa8a7b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050611080079aa8a7b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >And don't ever think you don't know how to hold a grudge. > > A grudge? For one thing, I've never thought that I don't know how to hold a grudge. But more to the point, I've always thought that grudges were held against somebody in particular. That doesn't apply in this case. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:14:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIDxee026165 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5C4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:56:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:56:52 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BHuqrE002597 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:56:52 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.117]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611175652.FQUK10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:56:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.117]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611175652.BSNN25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:56:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:56:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Having a different kind of card no doubt means a different card-reader >>-- iow, I have now got to buy a new card-reader. >> >> > >Maybe, maybe not. Most card readers read multiple cards. > > Oh. All these things are amazingly cheaper than they used to be. The card-reader I bought when I went to pick up the camera a little while ago was about $10. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:14:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIDxef026164 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5C65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:12:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:12:03 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BIC33g003802 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:12:03 -0400 Received: from [141.157.185.4] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 101658105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:12:23 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:12:08 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Oh. All these things are amazingly cheaper than they used to be. The > card-reader I bought when I went to pick up the camera a little while > ago was about $10. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Color me mutant, but I don't have or need a card reader. My camera came with a USB cable. I just plug it in to my laptop and pictures directly from the camera. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:14:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIE3ee026187 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:14:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5C0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:07 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BI376B002963 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:07 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.117]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611180307.FVIF10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.117]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611180306.BVLR25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:03:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB2757.4010308@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:03:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >What picture gallery are you talking about? > This one: File Size File Name Description 522364* 3friends.gif Karsten, Karen, Emily 61150* adam.gif List Honey 125133* adam2.jpg Adam and Work 11077* aidan1.jpg Aidan Schrier 16695* aidan2.jpg Aidan Schrier 8144* aidan3.jpg Aidan Schrier 9784* aidan4.jpg Aidan Schrier 3681* aidan5.jpg Aidan Schrier 6644* aidan6.jpg Aidan Schrier 64001* alec-jmw.gif at Roast 186214* alyce.xmas2.gif Alyce in the pageant 168404* alyce.xmas3.gif Alyce in the pageant 176018* alyce.xmas4.gif Alyce in the pageant 163458* alyce.xmas5.gif Alyce in the pageant 160573* amy.jpg Verdant's friend 87805* anne-verdant.jpg Anne and Verdant 34497* annip.jpg Marty and friends 167547* apocalypso.gif Steph & Graham in England 9687* aunti.jpg Aunti at Torondezvous 81166* baldverd.gif Verdant sans hair 48676* balls.gif Norman's balls at Wordstock 178191* borody.jpg Don Borody and Love, Judith 61565* bernard3.gif Bernard Chien Perro 51066* betty.jpg Betty in Oslo 231250* bc.jpg Bonnie and Clyde 19304* bdbrains.jpg Richard 41164* bentower.jpg Ben 11696* bird.jpg NOLA bird 78236* bookrat.gif Boo Krat at Wordstock 30254* brabonip.jpg Brad, Bonnie, Marty 57177* brad.gif Brad 37216* btterfly.jpg NOLA butterfly 127278* caboose.jpg in the caboose at Hollerfest 56158* cafe.gif Wordslers at Starkville Cafe 152611* cake.gif Goatroast cake 254351* california.gif California Crazies 120986* candles.jpg candlelight at Torondezvous 43846* carol.gif Carol Carmick 120985* carousel.jpg Giggles and Norman on horses 12654* casa-dowd.jpg at the Dowds' casa 87876* casket.jpg Giggles-Thanatopsis: Maynor Caskets 399299* cast.gif Alyce's Christmas 5151* chester.jpg Chester Dowd 14379* chester-natalie.jpg Chester and Natalie 303071* chicago.gif Bill, Tushar, Steve at O'Hare 222203* clambakers.gif clambake '92 226625* clambakers2.gif beside fire 178603* clambakers3.gif on porch 171217* clamcar.jpg abh, Karen, Graham, Judith 125410* clamslam.gif Cambridge pre-clam picture 25015* coffee.jpg Elwood and Natalie at Wordstock West 137607* cshw846a.zip gif-viewer for PC 52697* damion.jpg Damion Levy 244434* dangail.gif Dan and Gail 62293* dan-karsten.gif Dan and Karsten 64937* dench-fabio-elwood.gif at Wordstock 11428* donb.jpg Don Borody 134803* doris.jpg Doris 51296* down-not-out.gif Wordstock 8739* earl2.gif Earl-the-Reptile 71769* elaine.gif Elaine 64051* elwood.gif Elwood P. 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201382* phyllis.gif Phyllis Petree 50270* phyllis-tat.gif Phyllis at Wordstock 95560* pig1.gif bandwidth pig award 95527* pig2.gif another picture of bwp award 136265* pigs.jpg Neal and Natalie on pigs 124055* porch.jpg the WL Lodge porch 91288* porch-culture.gif at Wordstock 75685* portland.gif Salmonbake group 156760* primate-love.gif Judith and Paul 84468* purple.gif at Wordstock 350440* queenie.gif Queenie Harwell 173213* rabbit-the-cat.gif Rabbit Harwell 38575* raccoon.jpg NOLA raccoon 60161* rash-norm.gif Rashmi and Norman 22035* rassmussens.jpg Wordstock West 79687* roman.gif Mike Roman 33790* salesman.jpg Nancy, Brenda, et al 53594* sandiego.gif breakfast in San Diego 14245* san-simeon.jpg Wordstock West 32253* scammed.jpg Nancy, Kathryn, Brenda 164280* seattle.jpg at the flagless RI flagpole 426736* shark.gif Karen and Karsten 154298* shark_small.gif Karen and Karsten 45185* sharon.gif Sharon Z. 87355* shirt.gif possible design for new t-shirt 8579* shoshana.jpg Shoshana 6323* silence.gif proposed clambake t-shirt 52370* silver-shadow.jpg Betty at the wheel 61964* smith.jpg Giggles-Thanatopsis: Smith 68096* snow.gif Starkville, Mississippi, 1992 16854* solvang.jpg Wordstock West 17471* steph.jpg Steph 91025* steph2.jpg newer Steph 150935* steph-gt.gif Steph and Graham in England 103406* steph.pat.gif Steph and Pat 38972* steve-emily.gif Steve, Emily, and Honda sign 60788* steve-johnh.gif Steve and John H. 20070* stevephyllis.jpg Steve and Phyllis 170124* stratford.jpg Wordslers at Stratford, Ontario 156840* swing.jpg Giggles in the park 21170* sylviakeith.jpg Sylvia and Keith 888143* tanaka-family.gif Akio Tanaka and family 243758* terry.gif Terry Wild 128530* thaifood.jpg eating Thai food at Torondezvous 106706* tony.gif Tony Harminc 62526* tony2.gif a better gif of Tony 257299* torkel.gif Torkel Franzen 14604* torkel.marcia1.gif Torkel and Marcia 69898* torkel.marcia2.gif Torkel and Marcia 91091* torkel.marcia3.gif Torkel and Marcia 72144* torkel.marcia4.gif Torkel and Marcia 160815* train.jpg Wordslers at the park in Raleigh 500377* trio.gif Alyce and sons 23506* tvousdiners.jpg at Torondezvous 12633* tvousvolleyball.jpg at Torondezvous 18220* tuskar.jpg Tushar and Karsten 22188* verdant.gif Verdant 22776* verdant.jpg Verdant sans hair 31123* vic_keys.jpg Victoria Levy 47233* vinery.jpg Mary Ann, Natalie, Elwood, Bookrat 65202* virgils1.gif Wordslers in NY 77545* virgils2.gif Wordslers in NY 73839* virgils3.gif Wordslers in NY 57209* virgils4.gif Wordslers in NY 24854* waitress.jpg the Jerry-Tushar ftf 243305* who.is.this.gif mystery person 194378* wild.gif the Wild family 91025* wordstockchef.jpg the Wordstock chef 29344* wrdstck.jpg Wordstockers 278143* wsgroup.jpg Wordstock group shot 155805* wombat.gif Carolyn and child 114655* xmas.jpg on the Lodge porch 69290* young-love.gif young love at Wordstock -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:40:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIemee028825 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:40:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:40:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5C34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:28:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:28:10 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BISAol005117 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:28:10 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68844194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:28:09 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611112915.02b7e350@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:29:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Crappola In-Reply-To: <42AB2656.1020803@maynor.net> References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061020446254f461@mail.gmail.com> <42AACA57.1070100@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611062611.0278f5b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AB2656.1020803@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:58 AM 6/11/2005, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>Give them to a child or someone who doesn't have one. > >Good possibility. Or wait for the next church rummage sale. Then >again, it might be wise to have the old camera stuck in the car in case >I run out of card space on the new one at some point and need to switch >to the old one. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Good idea to have a back up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:41:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIemee028826 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:40:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:41:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5C79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:33:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:33:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BIX1Kw005446 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:33:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so681933wri for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.79 with SMTP id x79mr1601435wrx; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:33:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IRrFLT5LwD2taO7Ha43cGAG+kmdsVNfJH04K/Eq+yCm2oARUCCzIZDpI3JYjKrJCzBXdzAzCImSjp8gE4HwgZhIEobBnVSGen0rnG4LZiNBolWIcN92lA3UolTl7HnLPmUC6gvKuk23Hd4TsufAkFXJ0IwX1Zlj0OtfWXW962Qk= Message-ID: <83db447a050611113350cfa892@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:33:00 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Packing In-Reply-To: <42AB21C4.3020109@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AA11A5.4080701@maynor.net> <42AB21C4.3020109@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5BIemee028826 On 6/11/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > Tomorrow I have to get up at 3:30 AM, and my ETA in Victoria is 18:02 > local time, which is 3:02 AM Norwegian time. So it is close to a 24 hour > trip. Safe journey. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:41:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BIemee028824 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:40:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:41:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5C76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:20:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:20:47 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BIKlBX004463 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:20:47 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.117]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611182045.YFIO16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:20:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.117]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611182043.RYRW11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:20:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:20:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Color me mutant, but I don't have or need a card reader. My camera came > with a USB cable. I just plug it in to my laptop and pictures > directly from the camera. I did that when I first got my (old) camera and found that I was having to recharge the batteries constantly. I just got out the manual to explore the view-finder and learned that I have to hit the disp button for it to work. That strikes me as odd. Why would anybody want a view-finder to be turned off? Anyway, I'm tempted to set out and find some graves to take pictures of with the new camera, but it's dark and windy and drizzly. Don't let me forget that I have to be at the ETV studio before 7. I keep forgetting about it, even though it's written clearly on my calendar. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 13:56:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BItnee030364 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:55:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:56:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067870C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:55:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:55:49 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BItnlA007252 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:55:49 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-107.gwi.net [216.195.167.107]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5BItihL067671; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:55:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050611143458.01bfc688@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:37:18 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: AND In-Reply-To: <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:12 PM 6/11/2005, Rita Leonard wrote: >Color me mutant, but I don't have or need a card reader. My camera came >with a USB cable. I just plug it in to my laptop and pictures >directly from the camera. That works well if you are downloading a few, but if you have filled up a 256 mb card (or two, as I did on the coastal voyage), it's a little faster (and much less strain on your battery supply) to use a reader. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:44:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BJi1ee002251 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:44:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:44:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5D1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:37:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2947148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:37:01 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5BJR0uN009693 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:27:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 36718 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Jun 2005 19:27:00 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:27:00 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question Message-ID: <20050611192700.GA36139@words-l.org> References: <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <20050611170037.GA67744@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061110114f00bfdf@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061110114f00bfdf@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 12:11:26PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/11/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > A word I hate: "flip" ... > > Because it's so often used to describe your speech? No, but I wonder. It must be a compliment in Austin (it's a WEIRD town)! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:44:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BJi1ee002249 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:44:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:44:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5CCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:33:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2947111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:34:00 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BJO0bQ009454 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:24:00 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5BJNfU7001764 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:23:41 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:23:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: -y words Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Another example like addy -- a Salvation Army store. > > > I would think that would be a Salvy. > > ? It's not. Karen -- Probably should be - the intention is salvific. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:44:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BJi1ee002252 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:44:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:44:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5CD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:37:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2947157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:37:42 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BJRg9l009768 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:27:42 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5BJRNMD003925 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:27:24 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:27:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: packing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Whoops - I forgot that I have to take some stuff that I normally never take on trips: sheets and a pillow, maybe (I am awaiting information), a clock-radio w/alarm, detergent, my coffee stuff, etc. So i went to TJMaxx and bought another new suitcase, this one large enough for everything other than my computer, a few books, and the bare essentials (see earlier discussion). I'll be there 27 nights - so I an now trying to figure out how many times I want to launder stuff, etc., so I will know how much stuff to take. If I have to take towels, I will take some almost worn thin - then toss them at the end of the trip. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 14:47:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BJlAee002611 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:47:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:47:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5CF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:47:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2947632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:47:09 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BJl9tE011972 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:47:09 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5D3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:47:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200506111947.j5BJl9tE011972@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:47:09 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: La Comida Salvadore=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F1a?= To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> John and I spotted an El Salvadoran restaurant a few blocks over a while >> back and we kept meaning to try it, so yesterday we did -- for lunch. >> >> VERY good. Nice people, nice food. > > What did you eat? > >-- >> Marie >> marieber@gmail.com John had lengua. I had a chile relleno. Both were seasoned with some different types of herbs/seasonings than either Mexican, Cuban or Caribbean, but was a little closer to types of food I'd tried prepared by a former landlady from Colombia. Most intriguing. Each was accompanied by "different" rice and beans, and also tortillas that more closely resembled Venzuelan arepas that what we usually think of as tortillas. Apparently, a big specialty from El Salvador is something called a pupusa. It may be that the tortillas we had were plain pupusas. Here's more: http://www.whats4eats.com/recipes/r_st_pupusa.html Anyway, we want to go back and try some more items. Tonight, however, we are going to Los Dos Molinos with a friend. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:11:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BKAtee005169 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:10:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:11:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006786C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:00:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2948104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:00:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BK0sGZ013562 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:00:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1394174nzk for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.106.20 with SMTP id e20mr1937046nzc; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:00:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dB2pNkt5JAw9bxXnlI9w8UKuA4L9BEOgPuPIMhNBxYFwjwYsh0FJRY5rFXf0S/zErIef5ZyTpnkoudl4MirXwLL1K4bryYZbqpYBjRp9QZLoNYZRrNsDNanyLnwNP/RvH+mQtV6W3PP9Ix9nkpq73PH2eeBkPV44ta6GoDcgQUE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061113003d3af6d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:00:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: -y words In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BK0tGZ013563 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ah, if only language did what it should! On 6/11/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > Another example like addy -- a Salvation Army store. > > > > > > I would think that would be a Salvy. > > > > ? > > It's not. > > Karen > > -- > Probably should be - the intention is salvific. > > Bethany > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:12:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BKCpee005458 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:12:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:12:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5D8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:12:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2948401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:12:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BKCoFS014913 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:12:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1144719nzo for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.19 with SMTP id m19mr1951663nzm; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:12:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IY2u69+OXyDmeX3i8s0Zd3J2xYKxqEf3ewaTQn61DPI8DSJLV++kx9HSc8pa+Hv1sjgQKUmtzAgcO8IgG7sy0K62dZPm3oXxaEbV2rVf2DBOxMLtFyFhDie9ihARRvQWcH7hdkHk+HiO1AFuo8USbDYmZVpYL2SU0SEYk3AMhx4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050611131229206a36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:12:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_La_Comida_Salvadore=F1a?= In-Reply-To: <200506111947.j5BJl9tE011972@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506111947.j5BJl9tE011972@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BKCoFS014914 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > Apparently, a big specialty from El Salvador is something called a pupusa. Pupusas rock. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:13:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BKDdee005551 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:13:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:13:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5D52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:13:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2948421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:13:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BKDdhC015046 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:13:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1144881nzo for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.9 with SMTP id l9mr453780nzc; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:13:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dLp0lvhQmipwQy9XSwCmqaMVJey9oloCsNf2srIZCKyhgd3HrYKsW91G0fbkYEZBg6VQ4krJYY32woeiVzfKEojZYkWSGLyiv4m827pNLRMJ166BlDZa9rPbzauwvjCYosmCtK14iNM4R8KS1ze2KDlPoRFEYUVY+W/bJ3GgKnw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050611131337a0acb4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:13:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Actual word question In-Reply-To: <20050611192700.GA36139@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <20050611170037.GA67744@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061110114f00bfdf@mail.gmail.com> <20050611192700.GA36139@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BKDdhC015047 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > No, but I wonder. It must be a compliment in Austin (it's a > WEIRD town)! Some day, you will visit me, and I will take you to Flipnotics. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:16:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BKG0ee005932 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:16:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:16:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5DAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:15:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2948502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:15:55 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BKFtPF015502 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:15:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5DAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:15:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200506112015.j5BKFtPF015502@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:15:55 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: La Comida Salvadore=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F1a?= To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Apparently, a big specialty from El Salvador is something called a pupusa. > >Pupusas rock. > >Karen Que bueno. What type do you recommend that we try first? Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 15:35:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BKZBee007987 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:35:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:35:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5DA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:35:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2949066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:35:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BKZASv017979 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:35:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1389404nzp for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.1 with SMTP id n1mr1945458nzc; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:35:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K4gcKLnlnDbc3AuwarXQBuRQY05kMS6x+ZZHOKo6KcROZcg7/FY5cCEbvTXWzByNh/Jj/xJmdr9R9QFoU00xNdB16ferZkmWCG7MWeh5YGs1h6j2hfIT25Bhx6FSlG6T3tH4tlc3An9KoUcM0o7ls68ZWOVGJc+ZWJ8uXpRL8E4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506111335598740c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:35:06 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_La_Comida_Salvadore=F1a?= In-Reply-To: <200506112015.j5BKFtPF015502@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506112015.j5BKFtPF015502@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BKZASv017980 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > >> Apparently, a big specialty from El Salvador is something called a pupusa. > > > >Pupusas rock. > > > >Karen > > Que bueno. What type do you recommend that we try first? I have no idea of your tastes or what this restaurant offers. I orderd one of each kind, and went from there. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:04:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BL3uee012583 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:03:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:04:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5E98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:03:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2950456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:03:56 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BL3uEQ020604 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:03:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5E84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:03:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200506112103.j5BL3uEQ020604@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:03:55 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: La Comida Salvadore=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F1a?= To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:35:06 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 6/11/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: >> >> Apparently, a big specialty from El Salvador is something called a pupusa. >> > >> >Pupusas rock. >> > >> >Karen >> >> Que bueno. What type do you recommend that we try first? > >I have no idea of your tastes or what this restaurant offers. I orderd >one of each kind, and went from there. > >Karen Our tastes are diverse. This place offers the traditional types. (Also, there is more than one El Salvadoran restaurant around here.) I'll try again: Of the types of pupusas you tried, which one(s) did *you* like best? Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:28:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BLSLee014400 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:28:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:28:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006786C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:28:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:28:19 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BLSJos022670 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:28:19 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1105738wra for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.2.61 with SMTP id 61mr549651wrb; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=iJGwz9//IkKEIZ3xCMFExdOeEgrfBqgQyv+b688igCktoXg5tDcYpnz+xPu6TLmWubEZCS2Ag/v4+vjOwSPDggrPEMgSJnCSujVbUjA5AeR+1wYL+uSWCjn6eZYPwU/10vO/5omgbvMC5fScWsMQUBKUMlk2ED3sKWzl3rZ4UJ0= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:28:19 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Wild Blueberry Bread Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5BLSLee014400 I have never eaten this bread or the cake (recipe to follow). But Susan says this bread goes over really well. Wild Blueberry Bread 1/4 cup butter, softened 1/3 cup sugar 2 large eggs 2 cups flour 2 teaspoons baking powder 1/4 teaspoon saslt 1/2 cup milk 1 teaspoon vanilla 2 teaspoons grated lemon peel 1 cup wild Maine blueberries (fresh or frozen) Cinnamon Mixture 1/3 cup sugar 1/4 cup brown sugar 1/4 cup flour 2 teaspoons cinnamon 2 Tablespoons cold butter cut into bits Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Lightly grease and flour a 9x5 loaf pan. In a large bowl, beat butter and sugar. Beat in eggs one at a time. Add flour, baking powder, salt, milk, vanilla, and lemon peel all at once. Stir just until combined. Fold in blueberries. Combine sugar, brown sugar, flour and cinnamon. Cut in butter with a pastry blender (or with your hand) until crumbly. Turn 1/2 of batter into prepared pan. Sprinkle 1/2 of the cinanamon mixture over top. With a butter knife, swirl cinnamon into batter. Repeat. Bake until golden on top and toothpick comes out clean, about 55 to 60 minutes. Cool in pan 5 minutes and turn onto a cooling rack. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:31:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BLVmee014680 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:31:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:31:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5EF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:31:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:31:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BLVlsA022895 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:31:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1418210nzk for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.3 with SMTP id b3mr1958265nzc; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:31:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AxSFXzckKnktj8BhNnbOHZwBx1vWv5QueXgm0xIsSG5KobSIUeKt6Ys1jbuhAX0mldf714zPxfPpKR+yun3dtM/tGX/XfwFEOh/wCLdWYsxoDQrAbOLt0cAYr2DK+I/0sUfO5hIW+k+P9OLTL1sz25tNEiQRFPC6LCku1EsmqNw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061114316092f96e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:31:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_La_Comida_Salvadore=F1a?= In-Reply-To: <200506112103.j5BL3uEQ020604@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506112103.j5BL3uEQ020604@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BLVlsA022896 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > I'll try again: Of the types of pupusas you tried, which one(s) did *you* > like best? I liked the plain ones (served with beans). Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:41:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BLfTee015475 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:41:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:41:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5EFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:41:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:41:28 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BLfSJk023449 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:41:28 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so781627wri for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.133.3 with SMTP id g3mr1844591wrd; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:41:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Me6XSTUeUgMdpyS/LY6cskK1KyRylO3Gga9si6Q6HIcIW9O9jmZYHJNPZFZOqZqHMnoIeOEdofgn4AzHfTyJsceH1BxO+MpjjqpikVh5Cc6n7zmuzs3og8XxtE/oohLCK1XpMqv1YuHAhSiD3juV2J9uGqip6Sp+lHpBygPvcu0= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:41:28 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Blueberry Streusel Coffee Cake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5BLfTee015475 2 3/4 cups flour 1 1/2 teaspoon Baking powder 1 1/2 teaspoon Baking soda 1 teaspoon Salt 3/4 cup softened butter 1 cup sugar 3 eggs one pint (16 ounces) sour cream 2 teaspoons vanilla Streusel mixture 3/4 cup light brown sugar 3/4 cup chopped nuts 1 teaspoon cinnamon 2 cups blueberries Combine flour, baking powder, baking soda, and salt. Cream butter and sugar with electric mixer. Add eggs, one at a time, beating well. Add flour mixture alternately with sour cream and vanilla to batter. Combine streusel ingredients; set aside 1/2 cup. Toss the remainder in with berries Spread 1/3 of batter in a 10 inch greased and floured tube or Bundt pan. Sprinkle with 1/2 of the berry mixture. Then spread another 1/3 of batter and sprinkle with remaining berry mixture. Top with remaining batter. Sprinkle on 1/2 cup of reserved streusel mixture. Bake at 375 degreees for 65 minutes. Cool ten minutes. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:42:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BLgTee015567 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:42:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:42:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5F03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:42:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:42:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BLgSdN023524 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:42:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1406054nzp for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.1 with SMTP id n1mr1969106nzc; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:42:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e/bZFkvwcmF6SIiKBQ1998RkwODNZGZ89UNzgblLGQJkyA6EPLAbnPq/lHRaqCV29DgjYUDsfplsc4lbxZPoyET0s3aHQw6NWjViIA+otLnQT/l6UyLO+E6pPCfRnPIHmLWbTzO8IcofhngGrsioFK0O6IhGUCleqkTaknzHiGQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061114421e8fb973@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:42:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wild Blueberry Bread In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BLgTdN023525 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Blueberries and cinnamon go together unexpectedly well. On 6/11/05, bonniemaev wrote: > I have never eaten this bread or the cake (recipe to follow). But Susan says > this bread goes over really well. > > Wild Blueberry Bread > > 1/4 cup butter, softened > 1/3 cup sugar > 2 large eggs > 2 cups flour > 2 teaspoons baking powder > 1/4 teaspoon saslt > 1/2 cup milk > 1 teaspoon vanilla > 2 teaspoons grated lemon peel > 1 cup wild Maine blueberries (fresh or frozen) > > Cinnamon Mixture > 1/3 cup sugar > 1/4 cup brown sugar > 1/4 cup flour > 2 teaspoons cinnamon > 2 Tablespoons cold butter cut into bits > > Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Lightly grease and flour a 9x5 loaf pan. In a > large bowl, beat butter and sugar. Beat in eggs one at a time. Add flour, > baking powder, salt, milk, vanilla, and lemon peel all at once. Stir just > until combined. Fold in blueberries. > > Combine sugar, brown sugar, flour and cinnamon. Cut in butter with a pastry > blender (or with your hand) until crumbly. > > Turn 1/2 of batter into prepared pan. Sprinkle 1/2 of the cinanamon mixture > over top. With a butter knife, swirl cinnamon into batter. Repeat. Bake > until golden on top and toothpick comes out clean, about 55 to 60 minutes. > Cool in pan 5 minutes and turn onto a cooling rack. > > -- > --bonniev > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:45:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BLioee015704 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:44:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:45:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006786D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:44:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:44:50 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BLiSup023704 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:44:29 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1109201wra for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.25.52 with SMTP id 52mr1838783wry; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:44:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WcjKDgY1XSMhYFIk4p1e+cctYzMxGnlzRdS3ugCz2vvTMqcuc8ouOiMLGkv+mRuXHqSiVDViitCzDHnXM+BPt2Ie2tRXGIUPq8IcN1gayp5Tl1lwvR7TcHr/lnXBoCo0dBvF44gAy2Y9pIwPFuK7+WMcs5wAvoRGmi+CgYmKu7Q= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:44:28 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND In-Reply-To: <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5BLioee015704 >Color me mutant, but I don't have or need a card reader. My camera came > with a USB cable. I just plug it in to my laptop and pictures > directly from the camera. --Rita L. > That's what I do too. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:52:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BLqCee016269 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:52:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:52:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006787E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:52:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:52:11 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BLqBti024297 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:52:11 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.172]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611215211.BAEB22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:52:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.172]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611215211.NRMQ13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:52:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:52:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: And Tushar Isn't! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That surprises me. I had Tushar pegged as a 7-crosser. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:54:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BLsKee016460 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:54:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:54:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5ECC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:54:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:54:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BLsKlK024486 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:54:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so1408925nzp for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.118.4 with SMTP id q4mr1974307nzc; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:54:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ECu+Q065+wrtSts5x4FYPFH9t5zskyvPIZwCseXaDKGU0Jh0CM5lYHMRSZ1ZiK3cZfaltUxnHcwsMc4vHdH8PXokosTMd+NQduEWIVCEci5qMO21aP4HLlni6EXL4Hnfr5UwZR8LGbpW/mlcpRQ5WPw9Cw6xvzj3ofkzyOSiLz0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506111454bd281e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:54:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! In-Reply-To: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BLsKlK024487 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > That surprises me. I had Tushar pegged as a 7-crosser. You don't think he might be uncrossed just to confound you?! So I'm the only one who types their envelopes? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:57:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BLvbee016832 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:57:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:57:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006788A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:57:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:57:37 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BLvb0D024747 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:57:37 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.184.172]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611215736.BBZW22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:57:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.184.172]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050611215736.NSWW13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:57:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42AB5E49.7020705@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:57:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506111454bd281e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506111454bd281e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>That surprises me. I had Tushar pegged as a 7-crosser. >> >> >You don't think he might be uncrossed just to confound you?! > > That did cross my mind. >So I'm the only one who types their envelopes? > > The only one of the Wordsler check-senders. I haven't typed an envelope in years now, even when it's a professional letter. That's because I no longer have a typewriter and can't imagine going to the trouble of doing it with a computer and printer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 16:59:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BLxpee016989 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:59:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:59:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5F1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:59:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:59:51 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BLxocC024871 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:59:50 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22761036 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:00:09 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:00:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:00:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1569048727.20050611160008@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: A Ceiling Fan Question In-Reply-To: References: <200506091659.j59Gx6aL021753@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42A88BF5.50108@maynor.net> <19010026975.20050609212810@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 223, in=80028, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/10/2005, 5:11 AM, bonniemaev wrote: b> The person we bought this house from in Maine left the manuals for all the b> kitchen appliances. Good people. We've always done the same, but it seems good people are in the minority. Some may just take them, and I'll bet many just toss them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:11:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BMAvee018451 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:10:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:11:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5F03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:06:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:06:02 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BM62da025638 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:06:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22761442 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:06:21 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:06:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:06:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <11210328614.20050611160621@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: coffee In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 223, in=80031, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/10/2005, 5:48 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Thanks for all the suggestions. I will probably buy an inexpensive coffee BKD> pot and leave it - and I have enough of these European individual BKD> instant coffee paks to get past day 1 or 2 if necessary. What's a Sally BKD> store? Salvation Army. Or Goodwill. Or Deseret Industries (not as likely there). Or St. Vincent de Paul (much more likely). Or Idaho Youth Ranch (VERY unlikely to be in TN or NE). etc etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:11:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BMAvee018450 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:10:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:11:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5F3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:05:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:05:03 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BM53MK025507 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:05:03 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22703660 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:13:47 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:05:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:05:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <133734634.20050611160521@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <876977038.20050609213842@gailndan.com> <42A98014.2010602@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=93728, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/10/2005, 5:57 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> What is confusing me is that I'd think that the answer to my original NM> question would be simply yes or no -- either 2 megapixels is the max for NM> online pictures or it isn't. It would be adequate if you NEVER print and if you NEVER crop/enlarge. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:11:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BMAvee018446 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:10:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:11:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5F2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:00:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:00:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BM0uTH025113 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:00:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1165847nzo for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.9 with SMTP id l9mr8501nzc; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:00:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bJHqKaiETT9UIPPBGp3kdyv5iN/dQ6WFhg5hHezHewGsjbHNhqo+pXj2/mUav96gqu+Ie8CBaabB63klWph5L4xGdL57WCBmq1KKDmDNSsjF+rBaaUu/za4DomaaKmE4R4zMyZeKVzzqPjkCB+6F+QVckQ7OSJmr0kH1O41+WpM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050611150065a3a8fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:00:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! In-Reply-To: <42AB5E49.7020705@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506111454bd281e@mail.gmail.com> <42AB5E49.7020705@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BM0uTH025115 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > The only one of the Wordsler check-senders. I haven't typed an envelope > in years now, even when it's a professional letter. That's > because I no longer have a typewriter and can't imagine going to the > trouble of doing it with a computer and printer. It's trivially easy with Word and my printer. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:11:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BMAvee018452 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:10:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:11:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5F38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:03:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:03:03 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BM322B025302 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:03:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22761263 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:03:21 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:03:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:03:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <197870853.20050611160321@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 223, in=80030, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/10/2005, 5:48 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I'm confuseder and confuseder. Of course I want more detail in my NM> pictures. This is what started me exploring a possible camera NM> . But then I was told [what I said above] -- that unless I NM> plan to print the pictures, there will be no more detail, no better NM> quality -- that the extra megapixels will be totally wasted. If you never print, and IF you never crop, then fine. But most people want to crop their pictures, often extensively. So you take a picture of a deer in a field. He only takes up five percent of the image. You want to crop and view full screen, say. The deer will be pixelized with a low megapixel camera. It won't (or will be less so) with a high megapixel camera. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:13:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BMDUee018579 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:13:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:13:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB5F52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:13:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:13:30 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BMDU6K026252 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:13:30 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5F16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:13:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200506112213.j5BMDU6K026252@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:13:30 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: La Comida Salvadore=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F1a?= To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >Pupusas rock. >> > >> >Karen >> >> Que bueno. What type do you recommend that we try first? > >I have no idea of your tastes or what this restaurant offers. I orderd >one of each kind, and went from there. > >Karen >On 6/11/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: >> I'll try again: Of the types of pupusas you tried, which one(s) did *you* >> like best? > >I liked the plain ones (served with beans). > >Karen Ah, thank you. In what ways did the plain pupusas "rock" above the "one of each" of the others you mentioned you had tried? What other types did you try? Where did you go in that context (gastonomically speaking) when you stated you "went from there"? Did you try them in El Salvador or elsewhere? (I'm curious about the "loroco con queso" variety of pupusas myself). Curiosamente, Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:13:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BMDnee018609 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:13:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:13:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5F19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:13:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:13:48 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BMDm9M026316 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:13:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22761905 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:14:07 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:14:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:14:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <736070461.20050611161406@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 223, in=80033, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/10/2005, 6:31 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> And (not re cemeteries) I sometimes crop to show this kind of detail: NM> http://maynor.net/Temp/Paris/amiensext2.jpg NM> Thank you! The question is now answered, and I'll probably order a NM> camera sometime today. Good idea. Be sure you get some extra big memory cards (0r whatever it uses), since the bigger pix take more memory space, of course. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:15:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BMFSee018774 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:15:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:15:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB5F1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:15:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:15:25 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BMFOYU026480 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:15:24 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22515365 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:37:44 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:15:49 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:15:42 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <497639815.20050611161542@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: house manuals In-Reply-To: <42A989D9.6050508@maynor.net> References: <42A989D9.6050508@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80991, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/10/2005, 6:38 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Anyway, this old clipping is from the NM> newspaper back in the olden days when Jackson was smaller and newspapers NM> regularly did feature stories on new houses -- pictures showing things NM> like my mother standing in the entrance hall. I hate that it seems to NM> have vanished. I'm thinking now that it perhaps never made it here from NM> Hville -- that one or more old scrapbooks got thrown away. If you could come close on the date, perhaps the State Library or Public Library have the paper on microfilm, and you could at least get a halfway decent print from it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:20:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BMKBee019107 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:20:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:20:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5F72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:20:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:20:07 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BMK7km026964 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:20:07 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22704620 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:28:50 -0700 Received: from DAN-DELL ([24.117.5.98]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:20:31 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:20:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <988048455.20050611162024@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question In-Reply-To: <20050610155547.GB32812@words-l.org> References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> <42A8E159.8020501@istori.com> <42A8EBF0.8070403@maynor.net> <42A9909C.1070500@istori.com> <20050610155547.GB32812@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=93731, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/10/2005, 9:55 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> It's a little hard to describe unless you participate, but I've found >> really rich rewards from participating a little -- interesting friends >> around the world, new f2f friends, keeping up a little better with my >> globe-trotting old friends, etc. DMH> I can't picture Dr Maynor doing this ... Why not? She does it here and has for some sixteen years. And on a photo site she could get a GREAT number of opinions on cameras. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 17:29:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5BMTkee019901 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:29:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:29:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB5F84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:29:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:29:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5BMTjwT027832 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:29:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1432928nzk for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.90.14 with SMTP id n14mr1991873nzb; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:29:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iHaw/k/XbOE+RjPoEi7dmYhQFePITFyMtSTsTn86Catav4LRa3r3Z9iDT3/WmkQMd8pwxmmploP9h62qWCp6VuccIbS0qm2/udZfp+QswEThV5Ecsn527yTR2BLdUhKDKVczYUJz44VOel1qn9ZF7AmlGhJ4ec5I+Md2I5L/Rag= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506111529351c876@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:29:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_La_Comida_Salvadore=F1a?= In-Reply-To: <200506112213.j5BMDU6K026252@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506112213.j5BMDU6K026252@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5BMTkwT027833 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > Ah, thank you. In what ways did the plain pupusas "rock" above the "one of > each" of the others you mentioned you had tried? I liked the flavor better. > What other types did you try? Meat ones, and a vegetable one. I remember them both being too hot for my taste. > Did you try them in El Salvador or elsewhere? In Mountain View. It was my first exposure to Salvadoran food. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 20:06:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C168ee004588 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:06:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:06:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB60B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:06:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:06:08 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C168fD007493 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:06:08 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB609C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:06:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200506120106.j5C168fD007493@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:06:08 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The "Under-Classes" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:17:42 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 09:06:53AM -0400, Mrs. Williams wrote: >> >The under classes are usually much more fun to converse with. >> > >> >Betty >> >> Yes ... "under" depending on one's measuring spoon. >> >> The NY Times has an interesting 11-part series on class ... the last >> installment runs tomorrow: >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/pages/national/class/index.html > > > "Merit has replaced the old system of inherited privilege, > in which parents to the manner born handed down the manor > to their children. But merit, it turns out, is at least > partly class-based." My, how interesting! Why did I never think of this? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 20:37:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C1bfee007513 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:37:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:37:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB60A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:37:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:37:40 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5C1RdpI009329 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:27:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 25128 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Jun 2005 01:27:39 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:27:39 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service Message-ID: <20050612012738.GA24808@words-l.org> References: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <42AB2757.4010308@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AB2757.4010308@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 01:03:03PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >What picture gallery are you talking about? > > > This one: > > File Size File Name Description 522364* 3friends.gif Karsten, Karen, > Emily 61150* adam.gif List Honey 125133* adam2.jpg Adam and Work 11077* > aidan1.jpg Aidan Schrier 16695* aidan2.jpg Aidan Schrier 8144* > aidan3.jpg Aidan Schrier 9784* aidan4.jpg Aidan Schrier 3681* aidan5.jpg > Aidan Schrier 6644* aidan6.jpg Aidan Schrier 64001* alec-jmw.gif at > Roast 186214* alyce.xmas2.gif Alyce in the pageant 168404* > alyce.xmas3.gif Alyce in the pageant 176018* alyce.xmas4.gif Alyce in > the pageant 163458* alyce.xmas5.gif Alyce in the pageant 160573* amy.jpg > Verdant's friend 87805* anne-verdant.jpg Anne and Verdant 34497* > annip.jpg Marty and friends 167547* apocalypso.gif Steph & Graham in > England 9687* aunti.jpg Aunti at Torondezvous 81166* baldverd.gif > Verdant sans hair 48676* balls.gif Norman's balls at Wordstock 178191* > borody.jpg Don Borody and Love, Judith 61565* bernard3.gif Bernard Chien > Perro 51066* betty.jpg Betty in Oslo 231250* bc.jpg Bonnie and Clyde > 19304* bdbrains.jpg Richard 41164* bentower.jpg Ben 11696* bird.jpg NOLA > bird 78236* bookrat.gif Boo Krat at Wordstock 30254* brabonip.jpg Brad, > Bonnie, Marty 57177* brad.gif Brad 37216* btterfly.jpg NOLA butterfly > 127278* caboose.jpg in the caboose at Hollerfest 56158* cafe.gif > Wordslers at Starkville Cafe 152611* cake.gif Goatroast cake 254351* > california.gif California Crazies 120986* candles.jpg candlelight at > Torondezvous 43846* carol.gif Carol Carmick 120985* carousel.jpg Giggles > and Norman on horses 12654* casa-dowd.jpg at the Dowds' casa 87876* > casket.jpg Giggles-Thanatopsis: Maynor Caskets 399299* cast.gif Alyce's > Christmas 5151* chester.jpg Chester Dowd 14379* chester-natalie.jpg > Chester and Natalie 303071* chicago.gif Bill, Tushar, Steve at O'Hare > 222203* clambakers.gif clambake '92 226625* clambakers2.gif beside fire > 178603* clambakers3.gif on porch 171217* clamcar.jpg abh, Karen, Graham, > Judith 125410* clamslam.gif Cambridge pre-clam picture 25015* coffee.jpg > Elwood and Natalie at Wordstock West 137607* cshw846a.zip gif-viewer for > PC 52697* damion.jpg Damion Levy 244434* dangail.gif Dan and Gail 62293* > dan-karsten.gif Dan and Karsten 64937* dench-fabio-elwood.gif at > Wordstock 11428* donb.jpg Don Borody 134803* doris.jpg Doris 51296* > down-not-out.gif Wordstock 8739* earl2.gif Earl-the-Reptile 71769* > elaine.gif Elaine 64051* elwood.gif Elwood P. Dowd 64415* > elwood-fabio.gif at Wordstock 47374* emilies-tony.gif Emily Hor, Emily > Har, Tony 91008* espen.gif Espen skiing 160783* espen2.gif Espen reading > 12740* espen-maryann-natalie.jpg at Wordstock West 13477* > espen-natalie.jpg at Wordstock West 16979* fabio.jpg Hiroshi and Fabio > 73500* fallingwater-1.gif Fallingwater (obviously) 77432* > fallingwater-2.gif Fallingwater 21789* family.jpg Evan, Allison, and > Aidan Schrier 123688* fashion-plate.gif Tushar at Wordstock 53875* > frank.gif Frank Mc 67392* frieda.gif Frieda Abbey 54660* front-yard.gif > milling goatroasters 133617* fwp.gif Frank Peters 111753* fwp2.gif Frank > Peters (somber-looking) 66944* fwp-no.gif Frank Peters in N.O. > (goofy-looking) 65174* g-karsten.gif at Wordstock 287099* ggs-nat.gif > Giggles and Natalie 66971* gig-em-rash.gif Giggles, Emily, Rashmi 58683* > gig-guitar.gif at Goatroast 60098* giggleswick.gif goatroasters in > downtown Starkville 141140* gigkitch.jpg Giggles in Lodge kitchen 22248* > goatroast.gif GoatRoast94 12812* good-earth-1.jpg Wordstock West 12302* > good-earth-2.jpg Wordstock West 139479* graheath.jpg Graham and Heather > at Torondezvous 89941* group.gif goatroasters 73987* group-at-house.gif > Wordstock 800302* gubert-cat.gif JAG's Egyptian Maus 111263* hall.jpg > Torondezvous dorm life 79005* harwell.gif Anne Harwell and airplane > 60664* harwell.jpg Giggles-Thanatopsis: Harwell 32366* heather-tat.gif > Heather at Wordstock 125513* holler.jpg Bill Holler et al. 84111* > homies.gif Wordstock 19760* icecream1.jpg Elwood, Mary Ann, Natalie > 57925* icecream2.jpg Bookrat, Natalie, Mary Ann 82075* i-never.gif > Wordstock 153002* jen-gra.gif Jenna and Graham 65461* jimfar.jpg Jim > Farrell 61028* jinny-tat.gif at Wordstock 85806* jmw-tat.gif at > Wordstock 274978* john.gif John (What's the M For) Williams 38389* > jt.jpg Jerry & Tushar ftf 170677* judith.gif Mama Primate 507921 > jpegview gif-viewer for Mac 9567* karen-at-heart.jpg Karen at Wordstock > West 14946* karen-elwood.jpg Wordstock West 79806* karlson.gif Steve at > Wordstock 263177* ken.gif Ken Wolman 67628* kessler.gif Rod and family > 84524* keysmall.gif small version of mortice.gif 13361* lclark.jpg Larry > Clark 14590* lenny.gif Leonard Abbey 118843* lennycat.jpg Lenny on BBQ > day 320370* lex-brig.gif Lexington Brigade 93038* lex-brig.jpg Lexington > Brigade 39723* license-plate.gif Norman's license plate 65051* lisa.gif > Lisa at Wordstock 184148* lobstros.gif the Lobstrosity 10659* > marcia2.gif Marcia 10305* marciaearl2.gif Marcia and Earl in NOLA 14755* > mattbeam.jpg Matthew Beams 74407* max-alex.gif Max and Alex 46759* > mm.jpg Marie and Myles 552488* mortice.gif Fizzy's mortice key (by abh) > 63334* mystery-roaster.gif the mysterious AOBD 47103* nancy-johnh.gif > Nancy, John H, and Natalie's tv 58769* nancy-lauren.gif Nancy H. and > Lauren Darling 163726* natalie.gif Natalie 17769* > natalie-croc-chester.jpg Natalie and Dowd dogs 15710* > natalie-maryann.jpg at Wordstock West 66154* natalie-tree.gif at the San > Diego WAP 8871* natalisa.jpg in NOLA 60398* natbern.gif Natalie and > Bernard 74963* nat-em-jinny.gif at Wordstock 226709* neal.jpg Neal > computing at clambake 117896* neal-at-grill.gif at Wordstock 239113* > nealbalc.jpg Neal at Torondezvous 36439* ne.jpg Espen and Natalie 49146* > needname.jpg t-shirt '96 297704* nicorita.gif Rita and Nico 28432* > nola.jpg New Orleans gathering 142706* norman.jpg Norman asleep at The > Lodge 126020* normkitch.jpg Norman in Lodge kitchen 13777* nun.jpg > Bonnie as she was 80333* ny.gif Marie, Myles, Emily, Tom, Steve 13776* > off-bus.jpg Wordstock West 78594* pa-brunch-1.jpg brunching in > California 84125* pa-brunch-2.jpg the group minus bookrat 8308* > pasha.jpg Br Paul at Torondezvous 13855* paul.jpg the Kuritz family > 67085* people-on-steps.gif various roasters at Roast site 17024* > peter.gif Peter Montgomery 128768* peter2.gif Peter M. and Depraved May > 53047* phoenix-sign.gif Phoenix sign? 201382* phyllis.gif Phyllis Petree > 50270* phyllis-tat.gif Phyllis at Wordstock 95560* pig1.gif bandwidth > pig award 95527* pig2.gif another picture of bwp award 136265* pigs.jpg > Neal and Natalie on pigs 124055* porch.jpg the WL Lodge porch 91288* > porch-culture.gif at Wordstock 75685* portland.gif Salmonbake group > 156760* primate-love.gif Judith and Paul 84468* purple.gif at Wordstock > 350440* queenie.gif Queenie Harwell 173213* rabbit-the-cat.gif Rabbit > Harwell 38575* raccoon.jpg NOLA raccoon 60161* rash-norm.gif Rashmi and > Norman 22035* rassmussens.jpg Wordstock West 79687* roman.gif Mike Roman > 33790* salesman.jpg Nancy, Brenda, et al 53594* sandiego.gif breakfast > in San Diego 14245* san-simeon.jpg Wordstock West 32253* scammed.jpg > Nancy, Kathryn, Brenda 164280* seattle.jpg at the flagless RI flagpole > 426736* shark.gif Karen and Karsten 154298* shark_small.gif Karen and > Karsten 45185* sharon.gif Sharon Z. 87355* shirt.gif possible design for > new t-shirt 8579* shoshana.jpg Shoshana 6323* silence.gif proposed > clambake t-shirt 52370* silver-shadow.jpg Betty at the wheel 61964* > smith.jpg Giggles-Thanatopsis: Smith 68096* snow.gif Starkville, > Mississippi, 1992 16854* solvang.jpg Wordstock West 17471* steph.jpg > Steph 91025* steph2.jpg newer Steph 150935* steph-gt.gif Steph and > Graham in England 103406* steph.pat.gif Steph and Pat 38972* > steve-emily.gif Steve, Emily, and Honda sign 60788* steve-johnh.gif > Steve and John H. 20070* stevephyllis.jpg Steve and Phyllis 170124* > stratford.jpg Wordslers at Stratford, Ontario 156840* swing.jpg Giggles > in the park 21170* sylviakeith.jpg Sylvia and Keith 888143* > tanaka-family.gif Akio Tanaka and family 243758* terry.gif Terry Wild > 128530* thaifood.jpg eating Thai food at Torondezvous 106706* tony.gif > Tony Harminc 62526* tony2.gif a better gif of Tony 257299* torkel.gif > Torkel Franzen 14604* torkel.marcia1.gif Torkel and Marcia 69898* > torkel.marcia2.gif Torkel and Marcia 91091* torkel.marcia3.gif Torkel > and Marcia 72144* torkel.marcia4.gif Torkel and Marcia 160815* train.jpg > Wordslers at the park in Raleigh 500377* trio.gif Alyce and sons 23506* > tvousdiners.jpg at Torondezvous 12633* tvousvolleyball.jpg at > Torondezvous 18220* tuskar.jpg Tushar and Karsten 22188* verdant.gif > Verdant 22776* verdant.jpg Verdant sans hair 31123* vic_keys.jpg > Victoria Levy 47233* vinery.jpg Mary Ann, Natalie, Elwood, Bookrat > 65202* virgils1.gif Wordslers in NY 77545* virgils2.gif Wordslers in NY > 73839* virgils3.gif Wordslers in NY 57209* virgils4.gif Wordslers in NY > 24854* waitress.jpg the Jerry-Tushar ftf 243305* who.is.this.gif mystery > person 194378* wild.gif the Wild family 91025* wordstockchef.jpg the > Wordstock chef 29344* wrdstck.jpg Wordstockers 278143* wsgroup.jpg > Wordstock group shot 155805* wombat.gif Carolyn and child 114655* > xmas.jpg on the Lodge porch 69290* young-love.gif young love at Wordstock No, don't have these. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 20:51:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C1pNee009243 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:51:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:51:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB60AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:41:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:41:22 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5C1VLeF009614 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:31:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 26966 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Jun 2005 01:31:21 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:31:21 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! Message-ID: <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 04:52:09PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > That surprises me. I had Tushar pegged as a 7-crosser. I guess we all look the same to you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 20:51:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C1pNee009241 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:51:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:51:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB610F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:46:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:46:31 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5C1aVRr009894 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:36:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 29868 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Jun 2005 01:36:31 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:36:31 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The "Under-Classes" Message-ID: <20050612013631.GC24808@words-l.org> References: <200506120106.j5C168fD007493@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506120106.j5C168fD007493@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 09:06:08PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:17:42 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog > wrote: > >On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 09:06:53AM -0400, Mrs. Williams wrote: > > >> >The under classes are usually much more fun to converse with. > >> > > >> >Betty > >> > >> Yes ... "under" depending on one's measuring spoon. > >> > >> The NY Times has an interesting 11-part series on class ... the last > >> installment runs tomorrow: > >> > >> http://www.nytimes.com/pages/national/class/index.html > > > > > > "Merit has replaced the old system of inherited privilege, > > in which parents to the manner born handed down the manor > > to their children. But merit, it turns out, is at least > > partly class-based." > > My, how interesting! Why did I never think of this? Probably because of your lower class education. Anyway, I just found it interesting that people still repeat some stupid simplified formula like "merit has replaced the old system of inherited privilege". What does it even mean? Idiots. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 21:46:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C2kWee016857 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:46:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:46:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB61A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:46:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:46:31 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C2kUlo015315 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:46:30 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68905178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:46:30 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:47:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: AND In-Reply-To: <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:20 AM 6/11/2005, you wrote: >Rita Leonard wrote: > >>Color me mutant, but I don't have or need a card reader. My camera came >>with a USB cable. I just plug it in to my laptop and pictures >>directly from the camera. Card readers are faster in my experience. A lot faster. >I did that when I first got my (old) camera and found that I was having >to recharge the batteries constantly. > >I just got out the manual to explore the view-finder and learned that I >have to hit the disp button for it to work. That strikes me as odd. >Why would anybody want a view-finder to be turned off? Anyway, I'm >tempted to set out and find some graves to take pictures of with the new >camera, but it's dark and windy and drizzly. Saves the battery. Sometimes if it's bright and shiny outside I can't see anything on the viewfinder anyway so I turn it off. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 21:59:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C2xfee018236 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:59:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:59:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB61EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:59:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:59:41 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C2xfW7016410 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:59:41 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612025941.SFFA13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:59:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612025940.RNOJ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:59:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 21:59:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> <736070461.20050611161406@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <736070461.20050611161406@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Good idea. Be sure you get some extra big memory cards (0r whatever >it uses), since the bigger pix take more memory space, of course. > > I got a 512. I started to get two (they were on sale). But will this camera take regardless of what I set the resolution on? From what I read in the manual, setting it on high seems inappropriate for most situations. The manual recommends low for the kind of stuff I do, though in my experimenting today I used M2 -- that's "high medium." I took some pictures this afternoon with the new camera and the old camera and compared them -- and saw zero difference. I guess maybe in some situations I'll see a difference. I'm talking about picture-quality now. I saw some big differences in operating ease, some of them of course being simply a matter of my not being used to the new camera yet. I need to do some more studying of the manual since at this point I find the view-finder horrendous. I can barely see anything at all through it. And when I turn it on, that turns off the little screen on the back of the camera. Surely there's a way to change that -- to make them both work at the same time. My normal routine with the old camera is to look through the view-finder to set up the shot (a view-finder that shows what is in front of me quite clearly), click, and then immediately look at the screen on the back of the camera to see the picture I just took. That's impossible with the new camera, at least the way it's set now. I have a choice of the sucky view-finder or the screen on the back. They don't seem to work at the same time. Another huge disadvantage (that again I will say is surely correctable once I study the manual) is that you have to delete pictures one by one after you've dumped them onto the computer. On my old camera I simply tell it to "erase all." I have yet to find "erase all" on the new camera. I realize now that I am for sure going to keep the old camera rather than giving it away. Since the pictures it takes of things like tombstones are at least as good as the pictures the new camera takes, I'll continue using it since it's more convenient and is a much size and shape. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:06:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C36lee019101 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:06:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:06:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB635F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:06:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:06:46 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C36kOW018513 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:06:46 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612030646.SJIM13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:06:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612030646.ROUY11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:06:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABA6C3.5000204@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:06:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> <42A8E159.8020501@istori.com> <42A8EBF0.8070403@maynor.net> <42A9909C.1070500@istori.com> <20050610155547.GB32812@words-l.org> <988048455.20050611162024@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <988048455.20050611162024@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >photo site she could get a GREAT number of opinions on cameras. > > In a way I prefer getting camera opinions from a more general group -- a group like Words-L, where there are some experts who can give detailed technical info and are also some who can speak up about their druthers. Speaking of technical info, y'all would have been amused by some of the phone conversations I had tonight at Mississippi Public Broadcasting with people who exuded great agedness ("Lawrence Welk" was the program, meaning LW-related gifts to contributors -- some of these old people I talked to were downright orgasmic over the show they were watching or had just watched -- we stayed on for about fifteen or tweny minutes after it ended since that's when the phones were ringing like crazy). It was fun in a way talking to the old woman who said that other people stuck things in her tv to make it show movies and other people put little record-like things in something on top of the tv set to play music. The "little record-like things" were a helpful clue in the decision between audiocassette and CD. Then I asked her whether what they stuck into the tv to show movies looked like the little record-type things or were thicker. She said thicker, so I concluded VCR. Since she was contributing a bunch, she got all that stuff plus the deck of cards, which is all she really wanted, I think -- cards showing pictures of various Lawrence Welk stars. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:18:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3I2ee020315 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB63A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:08:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:08:02 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C382Gc019140 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:08:02 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612030801.SJZY13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:08:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612030801.RPAF11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:08:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABA70F.3070102@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:07:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <42AB2757.4010308@maynor.net> <20050612012738.GA24808@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050612012738.GA24808@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >No, don't have these. > > That was the list picture gallery as it existed in Feb. 1997. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:18:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3I2ee020309 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB63BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:09:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:09:04 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C393o3019257 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:09:03 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612030903.SKMW13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:09:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612030903.RPEO11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:09:03 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:09:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>That surprises me. I had Tushar pegged as a 7-crosser. >> >> >I guess we all look the same to you. > > Yep. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:18:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3I2ee020313 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB6395@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:16:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:16:58 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3GwKe020676 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:16:58 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612031657.SOTJ13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:16:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612031657.RQLI11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:16:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:16:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Saves the battery. Sometimes if it's bright and shiny outside I can't > see > anything on the viewfinder anyway so I turn it off. How do you with the viewfinder turned off? (With my new camera, that's not really an issue since it's hard to see anything through the viewfinder anyway, but with my old camera it's always clear.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:18:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3I2ee020311 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB637E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:11:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:11:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3BpRF020289 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:11:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1494691nzk for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr2027935nzh; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:11:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DWsrObTJKHotMQBz/3k5uFrfvhb4WQtg6o0YaesdOygKvcTnxt9VievC1s2PrycVtkKmj6fLXvqLm/U3qIy7w6qn+9N0wWC+Fs2T2hbi6BkXfw5jd1k1JToTrfbqYLgcQujgtIdF9qjfT4KZydvO0j66KQLWNjz0RwRlpvNxmf8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061120117601ebd0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:11:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <42ABA70F.3070102@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <42AB2757.4010308@maynor.net> <20050612012738.GA24808@words-l.org> <42ABA70F.3070102@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5C3BpRF020290 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >No, don't have these. > > > > > That was the list picture gallery as it existed in Feb. 1997. Does GToal have that on his backup? Karen who discovered a new way to make FrameMaker files uneditable today From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:20:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3KVee020634 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:20:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:20:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB63D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:20:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:20:26 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3KQsw020906 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:20:26 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68908786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:20:25 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611201616.027ae1e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:21:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061120117601ebd0@mail.gmail.com> References: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <42AB2757.4010308@maynor.net> <20050612012738.GA24808@words-l.org> <42ABA70F.3070102@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061120117601ebd0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:11 PM 6/11/2005, you wrote: >On 6/11/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > >No, don't have these. > > > > > > > > That was the list picture gallery as it existed in Feb. 1997. > >Does GToal have that on his backup? > >Karen >who discovered a new way to make FrameMaker files uneditable today I would bet that *someone* does. I've always felt that they were *some place* but just too much to deal with. Maybe not. Betty who spent a beautiful day in San Francisco today From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:21:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3LBee020685 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:21:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:21:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00678ADA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:01:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:01:08 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C318YC017095 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:01:08 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612030108.SFXY13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:01:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612030107.RNVD11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:01:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABA570.5010203@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:01:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: house manuals References: <42A989D9.6050508@maynor.net> <497639815.20050611161542@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <497639815.20050611161542@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >If you could come close on the date, perhaps the State Library or >Public Library have the paper on microfilm, and you could at least get >a halfway decent print from it. > > Good point. I am sure that it would be on microfilm in the state archives, though it may take some effort to find it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:38:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3cIee023832 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:38:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:38:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00678BA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:38:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:38:18 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3cIGX021996 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:38:18 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612033817.FALB8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:38:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612033817.XOCO5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:38:17 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABAE27.5020402@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:38:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611202216.02835170@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611202216.02835170@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> How do you with the viewfinder turned off? (With my new >> camera, that's not really an issue since it's hard to see anything >> through the viewfinder anyway, but with my old camera it's always >> clear.) > > I look through the aperture with my eye up close to the camera like in > the olden days. What's the difference between the aperture and the view-finder? What I'm talking about is the little opening on the back of a camera that you stick your eye up close to and see what the camera is seeing, or something fairly close to what the camera is seeing? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:42:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3gIee024215 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:42:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:42:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB63E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:22:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:22:08 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3M7Sb021051 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:22:08 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68909018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:22:07 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611202216.02835170@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:23:27 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: AND In-Reply-To: <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:16 PM 6/11/2005, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>Saves the battery. Sometimes if it's bright and shiny outside I can't >>see >>anything on the viewfinder anyway so I turn it off. > >How do you with the viewfinder turned off? (With my new >camera, that's not really an issue since it's hard to see anything >through the viewfinder anyway, but with my old camera it's always clear.) > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I look through the aperture with my eye up close to the camera like in the olden days. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:42:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3gIee024217 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:42:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:42:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6420@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:41:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:41:22 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3fM2h022517 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:41:22 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68911069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:41:20 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611204044.0277ebd0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:42:40 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: AND In-Reply-To: <42ABAE27.5020402@maynor.net> References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611202216.02835170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABAE27.5020402@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:38 PM 6/11/2005, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>>How do you with the viewfinder turned off? (With my new >>>camera, that's not really an issue since it's hard to see anything >>>through the viewfinder anyway, but with my old camera it's always >>>clear.) >> >> I look through the aperture with my eye up close to the camera like in >>the olden days. > >What's the difference between the aperture and the view-finder? What >I'm talking about is the little opening on the back of a camera that you >stick your eye up close to and see what the camera is seeing, or >something fairly close to what the camera is seeing? Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about the digital display on the camera. My bad. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:42:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3gmee024306 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:42:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:42:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB63D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:42:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:42:48 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3gmk9022563 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:42:48 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612034247.FBTI8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:42:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612034247.XOTX5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:42:47 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABAF35.8040903@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:42:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611202216.02835170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABAE27.5020402@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42ABAE27.5020402@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: Your camera that I used in Pinole was totally normal re view-finding -- I looked through the little hole (which I thought was called a view-finder) at the view, snapped the picture, and then saw the picture on the screen on the back of the camera. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:43:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3h3ee024329 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:43:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:43:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB63D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:43:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:43:02 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5C3X1cK021757 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:33:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 36687 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Jun 2005 03:33:01 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:33:01 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service Message-ID: <20050612033301.GA33598@words-l.org> References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <42AB2757.4010308@maynor.net> <20050612012738.GA24808@words-l.org> <42ABA70F.3070102@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42ABA70F.3070102@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 10:07:59PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >No, don't have these. > > > That was the list picture gallery as it existed in Feb. 1997. Well, many if not most pictures were obviously malicious and made available with a specific intent to defame or incriminate me. I am sure I don't appreciate the tone you are taking here. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:45:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3jKee024583 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:45:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:45:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB642D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:45:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:45:20 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3jKBV022757 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:45:20 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612034520.FCJE8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:45:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612034519.XPDE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:45:19 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABAFCD.6000704@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:45:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611202216.02835170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABAE27.5020402@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611204044.0277ebd0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611204044.0277ebd0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> What's the difference between the aperture and the view-finder? What >> I'm talking about is the little opening on the back of a camera that you >> stick your eye up close to and see what the camera is seeing, or >> something fairly close to what the camera is seeing? > > Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about the digital display > on the > camera. My bad. No, that little screen on the back is nice -- I like the way your camera and my old camera work in that you can see the picture right after you take it. But I would much rather have a decent view-finder than have that screen on the back. (And I never ever do whatever it is one can do to look at previously taken pictures on that little screen since that seems like major battery-killing to me. I glance it at very quickly after taking a picture, and that's that.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:48:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3mkee024896 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:48:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:48:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6436@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:48:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:48:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5C3ciRc022017 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:38:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 39488 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Jun 2005 03:38:44 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:38:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! Message-ID: <20050612033844.GA37811@words-l.org> References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 10:09:01PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>That surprises me. I had Tushar pegged as a 7-crosser. > > > > > >I guess we all look the same to you. > > > Yep. Cutting corners on the megapixels as usual ... why am I not surprised? And no, don't give me the tired old excuse that "the salesman told you". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:49:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3nZee024993 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:49:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:49:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6438@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:49:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:49:35 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3nYch023011 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:49:34 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68912060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:49:33 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611204917.028461e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 20:50:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: AND In-Reply-To: <42ABAF35.8040903@maynor.net> References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611202216.02835170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABAE27.5020402@maynor.net> <42ABAF35.8040903@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:42 PM 6/11/2005, you wrote: >PS: Your camera that I used in Pinole was totally normal re view-finding >-- I looked through the little hole (which I thought was called a >view-finder) at the view, snapped the picture, and then saw the picture >on the screen on the back of the camera. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Excellent. That is what I usually do, too. I turn the display off if it's too bright out to even see it. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:55:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3soee025438 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:54:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:54:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB63FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:54:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:54:49 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3snLv023383 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:54:49 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612035449.FEUR8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:54:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612035449.XQMJ5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:54:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABB206.8040800@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:54:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <42AB2757.4010308@maynor.net> <20050612012738.GA24808@words-l.org> <42ABA70F.3070102@maynor.net> <20050612033301.GA33598@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050612033301.GA33598@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Well, many if not most pictures were obviously malicious and >made available with a specific intent to defame or incriminate >me. I am sure I don't appreciate the tone you are taking here. > > Oh yes. Some were clearly incriminating. My tone is a righteous one in that people should be outed. I loved the picture of Norman sleeping on Giggles's couch, for one. And I loved Neal on the pig. Etc. etc. It was a . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 22:56:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C3uWee025618 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:56:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:56:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB6441@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:56:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:56:31 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3uV7m023490 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:56:31 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.183.208]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612035631.FFEB8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:56:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.183.208]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612035631.XQTQ5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:56:31 -0400 Message-ID: <42ABB26C.1010500@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:56:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> <20050612033844.GA37811@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050612033844.GA37811@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>>I guess we all look the same to you. >>> >>> >>Yep. >> >> >Cutting corners on the megapixels as usual ... why >am I not surprised? > > Yep. If you lived your formative years across an ocean from here, you cross 7's. And that is that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 23:41:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C4f3ee030239 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:41:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:41:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00678DCC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 0:41:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2965343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 00:41:02 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5C4V29r027355 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 00:31:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 69202 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Jun 2005 04:31:01 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:31:01 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND Message-ID: <20050612043101.GA64773@words-l.org> References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611202216.02835170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABAE27.5020402@maynor.net> <42ABAF35.8040903@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42ABAF35.8040903@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 10:42:45PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > PS: Your camera that I used in Pinole was totally normal re view-finding > -- I looked through the little hole (which I thought was called a > view-finder) at the view, snapped the picture, and then saw the picture > on the screen on the back of the camera. Sounds like a Pinole camera ... HAR From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 11 23:43:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C4h0ee030403 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:43:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:43:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00678C15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 0:42:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2965413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 00:43:00 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5C4WxW6027765 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 00:32:59 -0400 Received: (qmail 73589 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Jun 2005 04:32:59 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:32:59 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! Message-ID: <20050612043259.GB64773@words-l.org> References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> <20050612033844.GA37811@words-l.org> <42ABB26C.1010500@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42ABB26C.1010500@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 10:56:28PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>>I guess we all look the same to you. > >>> > >>> > >>Yep. > >> > >> > >Cutting corners on the megapixels as usual ... why > >am I not surprised? > > > Yep. If you lived your formative years across an ocean from here, you > cross 7's. And that is that. Oh, that. Well, "cross the 7s" is not that literal. It refers to the seven seas. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 00:21:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C5Kvee002480 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 00:20:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 00:21:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB664C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 1:10:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 01:10:57 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C5Aujw030581; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 01:10:57 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 68921782; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:10:55 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611220957.02849770@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:12:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: AND In-Reply-To: <20050612043101.GA64773@words-l.org> References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611202216.02835170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABAE27.5020402@maynor.net> <42ABAF35.8040903@maynor.net> <20050612043101.GA64773@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:31 PM 6/11/2005, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 10:42:45PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > PS: Your camera that I used in Pinole was totally normal re view-finding > > -- I looked through the little hole (which I thought was called a > > view-finder) at the view, snapped the picture, and then saw the picture > > on the screen on the back of the camera. > >Sounds like a Pinole camera ... HAR Natalie was a great photographer in Pinole. She even caught a crime in action. People were beginning to climb trees. I don't think I deleted any of her photos. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 03:47:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5C8loee027297 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 03:47:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 03:47:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB6910@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 4:47:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2972328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 04:47:49 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C8lkjF022089 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 04:47:46 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so796600wri for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 01:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.110.12 with SMTP id i12mr1295179wrc; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 01:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 01:47:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=TZrpZG3pAf9mkTbCrlXmYAj74DmIDQHiz1a2TORaUrZz3aqwFBiqdfTs88OGSq7gmR8ozq2P2VwVHb8s0KhiNsK15OXx6v+p+8md1Wcz2OKE2xXSXTGDE7TDbWKfIvm56HDwN/vHzbUTEqK9+hesfTdp58fmGPV4VR6gyIjYv3E= Message-ID: <8865866a050612014771c99f86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:47:46 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: Vicki , Torkel , Mom , johnson , bjorn.lindkvist@tomelilla.se, Gisela , English Language Discussion Group , Doug , Dan , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ann_St=E5lhammar?= , Pam Subject: Cotswold Way 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5C8lkjF022090 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Helloooo again! This time I'm not going to write one e-mail for every day Dan and I were gone. Your eyes would bleed from all the reading and I think it would make for a boring read! So Dan and I walked the Cotswold Way, which is 157 km (98 miles) in 7 walking days. Ok, we missed a little of it but more on that much later! Our arrival in London was undramatic and we immediately set out for a walk through Hyde Park and Kensington Gardens. We were staying in Bayswater with all the other tourists so it was very close by. One of the highlights there was the new Princess Diana Memorial. I guess there was a lot of controversy surrounding the memorial. Some people thought is was ugly and not fancy enough. Well, I thought is was perfect. It is a happy monument. It is a water sculpture that is like a little river and the architect used different effects to play with the water. People were sitting around it, eating ice cream and dipping their feet in the water. We didn't get a picture because it was hard to see the monument due to all the people around it. On we went and ended up at Speaker's Corner. For those who don't know about it, Speaker's Corner is a place where anyone can stand and say exactly what they want. There was a man drinking olive oil and talking about its healthy properties and several people yelling about religion - the usual gathering of crackpots, I guess. We kept on walking and noticed we were hungry. We must have walked on all the wrong roads because we had a hard time finding a restaurant. But we were very lucky! We stumbled over a newly opened dim sum restaurant near Carnaby St. This place was really fabulous and the food excellent. It was better than the dim sum we ate in Taipei (sorry, Wen-Chung!). After we stuffed our faces, we sent our compliments to the chef, who came out and talked to us for a few minutes and told us that they had just photographed the new menu in Stockholm! The next morning we walked to Paddington in the rain to get rid of our suitcases(good practice for what was to come) and did some sight-seeing, which means for me going to the book store, Foyles. I bought a few things, including a Dr. Suess t-shirt with the cover of "Green Eggs and Ham" on it. Dan had never heard of "Green Eggs and Ham" so I, of course, was forced to buy the book as well. That afternoon we took the train to Moreton-in-Marsh. Upon arriving in Moreton-in-Marsh, where we had planned to take the bus to the trail's start (Chipping Campden), it occured to me that it was a bank holiday, which meant the buses run on the Sunday timetable, which meant there was no bus and we'd have to take a taxi. Argh. We walked into the town to see if we could find a taxi. Nix. Then we called the taxi numbers our organizer gave us - two didn't work and the third said he wasn't even in that area. ARGH! At this point I'm getting cranky because I'm hungry and have to go to the bathroom. Back to the rail station, found a list of taxis but just then a taxi rolled into the parking lot. He couldn't take us but called someone who could BUT he wouldn't be there for another half hour. Fine. Great. I really gotta go potty. To make a long story short - thank goodness for dumpsters you can hide behind! Now that I was more relaxed and we had some time on our hands, I pulled out "Green Eggs and Ham" and read it to Dan. He really enjoyed the story and thought Sam-I-am was a great guy! Dinner was at a nice pub in Chipping Campden and both Dan and I ate vegetarian sausages with chips and a Carling (British beer). Called Torkel and then called it a day. Tomorrow we would embark on our great journey!! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:57:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CBv5ee023080 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 06:57:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 06:57:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006790F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 7:57:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2975634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:57:04 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CBv4Jm023908 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:57:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6ABC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 7:57:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200506121157.j5CBv4Jm023908@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:57:04 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The "Under-Classes" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 09:06:08PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> My, how interesting! Why did I never think of this? >> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:17:42 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog >Probably because of your lower class education. > >Anyway, I just found it interesting that people still repeat >some stupid simplified formula like "merit has replaced the >old system of inherited privilege". What does it even mean? >Idiots. It means that, as an excuse for favoring some people over others, merit is a more current buzzword, of course. People must repeat stupid simplified formulae. The mind works by collage, pasting together bits from other conversations. Whole slices that don't involve thought are the most efficient way to expend the least attention for the highest social capital gain. For example, see your post above for the phrase "I just found it interesting". On a more serious note, I have discovered that I don't have my sister's knack for making delicious cheese from goat's milk. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 06:57:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CBvOee023102 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 06:57:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 06:57:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6ABE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 7:57:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2975643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:57:13 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CBvC1U023948 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:57:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005061211571101300fppmve>; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:57:12 +0000 Message-ID: <42AC2312.7090004@istori.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 04:57:06 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> <736070461.20050611161406@gailndan.com> <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie writes, Congrats on the S2. I'm gelous! > From what I read in the manual, setting it on high seems inappropriate > for most situations. The manual recommends low for the kind of stuff I > do, though in my experimenting today I used M2 -- that's "high medium." The world of the far future would be a better place if you always shoot in high res, and archive your original files. But it's your call. :-) > I need to do some more studying of the manual since at this > point I find the view-finder horrendous. I can barely see anything at > all through it. And when I turn it on, that turns off the little screen > on the back of the camera. Surely there's a way to change that -- to > make them both work at the same time. I'm pretty sure you can only have one on at a time. And you find the viewfinder sucky on the new camera because it's an electronic viewfinder, not an optical one. From one of my previous posts, "... a high zoom lens means that it's impractical to have a separate optical viewfinder, so the viewfinder on the S1 is actually a little mini video display that shows what the lens sees. On the plus side, this is exactly the "through-the-lens" view; on the minus side, sometimes it's a little harder to see fine details or colors, and a big minus is the view freezes as pictures are taken, so it can be hard to track a moving target. I still love it, though." YMMV, obviously. Having to use an EVF instead of an optical viewfinder is a consquence of having the big zoom. When you're zoomed far in, you want to see what the imaging chip sees, not what you can see through a hole in the camera. So they use a little display that shows you exactly what the imaging chip sees. You can try adjusting the focus knob next to the viewfinder to see if that helps. You may also get used to it, like I did. Failing that, I think there's a good chance that using the big LCD display all the time won't affect battery life as drastically as you think, so you could try that. Also, you need to see if you really like the zoom feature enough to try to put up with the viewfinder. Go outside, and find a bird or a stop sign or something to zoom in on. Take a few pictures at highest resolution zoomed all the way out, and some more zoomed all the way in, then take them back and try cropping both versions to see what you got. When you're taking pictures for real, the idea is to use the zoom to get a picture that needs close to zero cropping. Zoom in and out to frame just the subject you want. Move the zoom lever a little to zoom slowly, or a lot to zoom quickly. Then when you take the picture using zoom instead of crop, you'll end up with more resolution. (Which won't matter for standard web viewing, as previously discussed, but ya da ya da etc.) If you're like me, you'll love the zoom and get used to the viewfinder. But you may also decide it's just not worth it, in which case you should take the camera back to Best Buy, and tell them it doesn't work for you and get your money back. > huge disadvantage (that again I will say is surely correctable once I > study the manual) is that you have to delete pictures one by one after > you've dumped them onto the computer. On my old camera I simply tell it > to "erase all." I have yet to find "erase all" on the new camera. Page 48 in the manual. Although another way to do it is to just format the card (page 20, at the bottom). I prefer this, to start with a clean filesystem, and it's worked fine on all three of my Canons. Note a bonus: your new camera also functions as a fine digital camcorder, with resolution very nearly the same as a real DV camcorder (640x480 vs. 720x480). The only downside is that it chews up memory quickly; at highest resolution, only about 8 minutes fit into a 1Gb card. But it's great for short clips where you want to show action, not just stills. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 07:37:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CCboee027837 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:37:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:37:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB6AE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 8:37:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2976165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:37:49 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CCbnvI026331 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:37:49 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-62.gwi.net [216.195.167.62]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5CCbjJv065670; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:37:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050612083021.01bf7b90@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:37:34 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> <736070461.20050611161406@gailndan.com> <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:59 PM 6/11/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Another huge disadvantage (that again I will say is surely correctable once I >study the manual) is that you have to delete pictures one by one after >you've dumped them onto the computer. On my old camera I simply tell it >to "erase all." I have yet to find "erase all" on the new camera. The software I have---both the Windows stuff and Picasa, offers the option of deleting all the photo files from the card after the download is complete. It's been a while since I downloaded directly from the camera, but I think that it works that way as well. >I realize now that I am for sure going to keep the old camera rather >than giving it away. Since the pictures it takes of things like >tombstones are at least as good as the pictures the new camera takes, >I'll continue using it since it's more convenient and is a much > size and shape. The way to make the new camera friendlier is to use it. My digital SLR wasn't all that friendly to begin with---and I'm still learning more about how to use it most effectively---but I would now have problems going back the to the other one. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:33:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CDXOee004019 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:33:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:33:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067915D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 9:33:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2976958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:33:23 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CDXNEG029046 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:33:23 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.45]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612133323.IXDC8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:33:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.45]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612133322.ZOFI5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:33:22 -0400 Message-ID: <42AC39A0.10301@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:33:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: AND References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> <42AB2B78.6000909@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611194649.0283ed70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABA926.8010600@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611202216.02835170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42ABAE27.5020402@maynor.net> <42ABAF35.8040903@maynor.net> <20050612043101.GA64773@words-l.org> <6.0.1.1.2.20050611220957.02849770@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050611220957.02849770@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I don't think I deleted any > of her photos. Betcha did. I remember at least one that was a clearcut tosser -- the first one I took of Larry cutting the cake in the kitchen. Something about the lighting made it very dark and murky (so I moved to a different position and took a better one -- that's why I like having both the view-finder and the display on the back -- using the view-finder to find the view and then using the display thing for a quick glance at what happened when I clicked). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:38:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CDbuee004670 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:37:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:38:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6B61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 9:37:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2977022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:37:56 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CDbt4R029287 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:37:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0C597905 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:37:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21171-09 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:37:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACDA9770F for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:37:53 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42AC3AAF.1000606@akad.ee> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:37:51 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life in a dorm room References: <42A96DD4.9070300@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610073501.027f2160@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050610073501.027f2160@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.517 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> Sure, instant coffee is more convenient on a trip but if you do >> not like its taste why not use the primitive method. >> >> Kristin > > > http://www.neice.com/store/merchant.mvc?Product_Code=BigSkyBistro&Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MTR A good and good-looking thingie. What amazes me on that page: the size of mug is not mentioned. Only its "Shipping Weight 1 Pound". That this is the only information about the mug (besides its image) and that the formulation standing there alone is strange (sounds for a moment as if I should like to have the mug in purpose of shipping it) would make me think how a buyer should decide on whether to have it or not. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:52:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CDqHee006440 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:52:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:52:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6B88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 9:52:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2977354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:52:17 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CDqH8C030340 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:52:17 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-62.gwi.net [216.195.167.62]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5CDqCOB031207; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:52:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050612094250.01bf0ec8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:52:09 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Ceiling-Fan Report and Digital-Camera Question In-Reply-To: <42ABA6C3.5000204@maynor.net> References: <42A8C1EC.5040900@maynor.net> <42A8E159.8020501@istori.com> <42A8EBF0.8070403@maynor.net> <42A9909C.1070500@istori.com> <20050610155547.GB32812@words-l.org> <988048455.20050611162024@gailndan.com> <42ABA6C3.5000204@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:06 PM 6/11/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >It was fun in a way talking to the old woman who said that other people >stuck things in her tv to make it show movies and other people put >little record-like things in something on top of the tv set to play >music. The "little record-like things" were a helpful clue in the >decision between audiocassette and CD. Then I asked her whether what >they stuck into the tv to show movies looked like the little record-type >things or were thicker. She said thicker, so I concluded VCR. The other day, after the siding job was completed, we had to have our satellite dish re-tuned (it had been taken off and re-mounted during the installation of the siding). The man in town who runs the Radio Shack outlet here as well as seeling TVs, videos, and handles the DirectTV installation and servicing, is a quiet, very mellow type. It took him about 15 minutes to re-position the dish and tune it. After that was done, he tuned through the various options we have (DirectTV, cable, DVD, HDD) and noted that we weren't set up to get the best picture and sound, so he changed a wire or two and then, sitting on the floor, very patiently explained to us how to find and use the best options. At the end of all of his explanations, I felt a little like your old woman. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 08:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CDxmee007337 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:59:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:59:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6B99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 9:59:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2977501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:59:48 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CDxlY6030817 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:59:47 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.45]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612135947.QXPB26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:59:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.45]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612135947.KWHN29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:59:47 -0400 Message-ID: <42AC3FD0.4090304@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:59:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> <736070461.20050611161406@gailndan.com> <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> <42AC2312.7090004@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42AC2312.7090004@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > viewfinder, so the viewfinder on the S1 is actually a little mini video > display that shows what the lens sees. On the plus side, this is exactly > the "through-the-lens" view; on the minus side, sometimes it's a little > harder to see fine details or colors, and a big minus is the view > freezes as pictures are taken, so it can be hard to track a moving > target. I still love it, though." I don't care if it freezes as pictures are taken. All that bothers me is that I can't see much of anything through it -- kind of reminds me of how much I hated biology labs since I never could see anything through the microscope. This is the first time I've had that problem with a camera. > think there's a good chance that using the big LCD display all the time > won't affect battery life as drastically as you think, so you could try > that. I wasn't the one who mentioned batteries in relation to the little screen. I don't even know whether it can be turned off on my old camera. I always keep it on because, as I said earlier, my routine is to set up the view via the view-finder and then check the shot on the little screen after I've taken it. > Also, you need to see if you really like the zoom feature enough to try > to put up with the viewfinder. Go outside, and find a bird or a stop > sign or something to zoom in on. Take a few pictures at highest > resolution zoomed all the way out, and some more zoomed all the way in, > then take them back and try cropping both versions to see what you got. I will try this. I sometimes use the zoom (a much weaker one, of course) on my old camera, though not very often. I don't often have occasion to take pictures of faraway things. > . Then when you take the picture using zoom > instead of crop, you'll end up with more resolution. I'll experiment with this. Usually what I do if I want to minimize cropping is simply get very close to what I'm taking the picture of -- iow, have whatever it is fill pretty much the whole view-finder. > But you may also decide it's just not worth it, in which case you > should take the camera back to Best Buy, and tell them it doesn't work > for you and get your money back. Heavens. I can't imagine doing that. I almost never return anything, even if the problem is the fault of the seller or the manufacturer. And I for sure wouldn't return something just because I decided I didn't like it. It was Circuit City, btw. What happened was that when I started doing price comparisons online for that camera, I found that the CC website had the best price. I thought that would mean having it mailed from their central office/warehouse, but it turned out that there was a pick-up option, so naturally that's what I did. I took the printout of the order confirmation to the local CC, showed them my driver's license and the credit-card I'd used, and walked away with my new camera (after stopping to buy the new card and new card-reader). > Page 48 in the manual. Although another way to do it is to just format > the card (page 20, at the bottom). I prefer this, to start with a clean > filesystem, and it's worked fine on all three of my Canons. I thought about that after mentioning the problem. I don't remember anything about formatting being involved with my old camera, but I noticed in the early part of the manual for the new camera that it said a new card should be formatted before using it. So I followed the instructions and formatted the new card. I thought later how that would presumably be a way to mass-erase, though it seems like overkill if you're erasing a small number of pictures -- like the very few I took yesterday. I prefer my old camera's system (though it does include an extra step of making you make sure that you really do want to erase all). > Note a bonus: your new camera also functions as a fine digital > camcorder, with resolution very nearly the same as a real DV camcorder > (640x480 vs. 720x480). The only downside is that it chews up memory > quickly; at highest resolution, only about 8 minutes fit into a 1Gb > card. But it's great for short clips where you want to show action, not > just stills. I did notice that in its description. I will at some point explore it. There are more pressing matters to explore first -- like what I did yesterday at one point that made the camera think I wanted delayed shooting. It would sit there clicking for whatever number of seconds before taking the picture. I realized right away what was going on -- that I had somehow accidentally told it to delay. But the only thing I could find about it on the menu was a place that let me change the number of seconds for it to wait -- no place for me to turn it OFF. Fortunately, it turned off when I turned the camera off -- i.e., when I turned the camera back on, things were back to normal. It was annoying, to say the least, to stand there waiting for it to take the picture. This was a very brief trip I made to a cemetery in Gluckstadt. I'm glad I took both cameras since the one I took of the cemetery gate with the new camera was majorly sucky. The one with the old camera was fine: ... Was going to give the url to show the gate picture on Find-a-Grave, but their exceedingly annoying server isn't cooperating. They really need to upgrade. Sometimes it's fine, but quite often it acts like my ceiling fan shortly before its death -- slower and slower and then not reachable at all. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:15:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CEEwee009233 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:14:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:15:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB6BA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 10:07:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2977794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:07:59 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CE7waJ031690 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:07:58 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.45]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612140758.QZWA26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:07:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.45]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612140758.KXPY29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:07:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42AC41BB.30507@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:07:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Preachers and Dogs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I meant to ask yesterday if y'all had read about the preacher and others in his church in Louisiana -- the orgies that were going on in the church involving sex with dogs. I just thought about it because I just realized that I have not yet even looked at today's news. I guess it's a good thing that my church doesn't have Forum in June and July -- meaning that I have more time to do things on Sunday mornings. I need to go read the news now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:15:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CEEwee009234 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:14:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:15:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6BB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 10:05:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2977737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:05:34 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CE5YPl031481 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:05:34 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.45]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612140534.QZGS26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:05:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.45]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612140533.KXFZ29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:05:33 -0400 Message-ID: <42AC412A.4040003@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:05:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> <736070461.20050611161406@gailndan.com> <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050612083021.01bf7b90@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050612083021.01bf7b90@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > The software I have---both the Windows stuff and Picasa, offers the > option > of deleting all the photo files from the card after the download is > complete. Hmm. I should check on that since it makes much more sense than going back to the camera to do it. Whatever software I use is what came with the cameras. I installed the new software that came with the new camera, but it appears to be exactly the same thing that was already on my computer -- some kind of Canon software. Now that I think about it, though, a box pops up when I insert the card-reader in the port with a list of I can choose from for the copying. I always just use the first one since that has always worked. I can't remember what it says. Will pay attention next time. It's too bad that I have too much stuff going on in my life right now to give me enough camera-play time. > The way to make the new camera friendlier is to use it. My digital SLR That thought has also occurred to me. But I do know that I'm going to take back-up shots with the old camera for a while at least -- like the one of the cemetery gate yesterday. The one with the new camera was basically unusable. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:15:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CEEwee009230 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:14:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:15:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6BB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 10:04:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2977721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:04:57 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-05-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CE4vqq031433 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:04:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-05-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5CE4sRh000510 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:04:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42AC4113.4080803@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:05:07 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <42AB2757.4010308@maynor.net> <20050612012738.GA24808@words-l.org> <42ABA70F.3070102@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061120117601ebd0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061120117601ebd0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Does GToal have that on his backup? > I refer you to this post I made yesterday: http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0506B&L=words-l&P=R9533&X=45AEE73F71005C6CED&Y=mysterian@gmail.com -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:25:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CEPbee010561 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:25:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:25:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB6BF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 10:25:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2978476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:25:37 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CEPaH6000774 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:25:36 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.45]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612142536.VBST16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:25:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.45]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612142535.KAIN5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:25:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42AC45C6.6070604@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:25:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Up Yours, Kentucky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I enjoyed Mr. Agnew's irritated tone in this column -- an irritation shared by most Mississippians at ignorant stereotypes: http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050612/COL0402/506120371/1201 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 09:35:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CEZDee011359 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:35:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:35:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6C2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 10:35:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2978877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:35:13 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CEZCN0001613 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:35:12 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-62.gwi.net [216.195.167.62]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5CEZ7vo033666; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:35:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050612103101.01c09228@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:34:55 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42AC412A.4040003@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> <736070461.20050611161406@gailndan.com> <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050612083021.01bf7b90@pop.gwi.net> <42AC412A.4040003@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:05 AM 6/12/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: Hmm. I should check on that since it makes much more sense than going >back to the camera to do it. Whatever software I use is what came with >the cameras. I installed the new software that came with the new >camera, but it appears to be exactly the same thing that was already on >my computer -- some kind of Canon software. Now that I think about it, >though, a box pops up when I insert the card-reader in the port with a >list of I can choose from for the copying. I always just use >the first one since that has always worked. I can't remember what it >says. Will pay attention next time. In that pop-up box, one of the items (I think it's the last one) gives you the option of using the "wizard" to download your files directly into My Pictures. It's after that, or perhaps at the extreme bottom of that box, that the "delete all afterwards" option is presented. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 10:05:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CF5qee014747 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:05:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:05:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006792C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 11:05:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2979585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:05:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CF5oa7003688 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:05:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1331168nzo for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.9 with SMTP id b9mr964424nzc; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:05:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pdLjPI9/ARY3p41wspR9ItbQ8VGX5wI1SsXhm6In6bdO3t5U6nRBCNEyfNXrscKYBwc3zyauydlYFC0trokL8LK4bx3bWCmrsgQj+LiEIu8JIsJw/zNsClAbdlxsfyk7BXXnInR0MHGBkpcyJ/NFxyLRta0NEWOaZwwkABjZ4VU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050612080560342931@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:05:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <42AC4113.4080803@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <42AB2757.4010308@maynor.net> <20050612012738.GA24808@words-l.org> <42ABA70F.3070102@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061120117601ebd0@mail.gmail.com> <42AC4113.4080803@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5CF5pa7003689 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Last I checked, 1997 and 1998 were different years. I don't know all the dates of the websites ramblings. I don't remember if the pictures were lost before they got to Mr. Toal or afterwards. Karen On 6/12/05, Anne Toal wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >Does GToal have that on his backup? > > > > I refer you to this post I made yesterday: > http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0506B&L=words-l&P=R9533&X=45AEE73F71005C6CED&Y=mysterian@gmail.com > > -aht > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 10:08:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CF8Ree015025 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:08:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:08:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6C87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 11:08:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2979717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:08:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CF8Pt1003973 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:08:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1331927nzo for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.9 with SMTP id l9mr196796nzc; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:08:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IoE9PiCtgkZ/7OUICOxZteYiz3dWqpBKLp+evWWesD8zAANEGPulRkPGhpyhfHODUI2xGA+Nq/NYCXmNPb9iu8VmGR2MHoMoHqDVSIMGc9T23UnFLTX6xz685SS3RInMs+imdbzWdjw2OsbomXcHE3l6hf6SB+3G+KhbfrKeHmM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061208085a1ba1bf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:08:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life in a dorm room In-Reply-To: <42AC3AAF.1000606@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A96DD4.9070300@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610073501.027f2160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AC3AAF.1000606@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5CF8Pt1003975 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/12/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > What amazes me on that page: the size of mug is not mentioned. Only its > "Shipping Weight 1 Pound". That this is the only information about the > mug (besides its image) and that the formulation standing there alone is > strange (sounds for a moment as if I should like to have the mug in > purpose of shipping it) would make me think how a buyer should decide on > whether to have it or not. A lot of web sites are like this; I try not to order from them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 11:39:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CGdYee027248 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:39:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:39:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00679292@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 12:39:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2981487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:39:34 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CGdWB0010020 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:39:32 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB6D17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 12:39:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200506121639.j5CGdWB0010020@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:39:31 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: La Comida Salvadore=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F1a?= To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5CGdWB0010021 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Ah, thank you. In what ways did the plain pupusas "rock" above the "one of >> each" of the others you mentioned you had tried? >I liked the flavor better. Of plain fried masa for tortillas? >> What other types did you try? > >Meat ones, and a vegetable one. I remember them both being too hot for my taste. As in picante? Our selections at the place where we went we decidedly flavorful, but not at all spicy hot -- yet *extremely* tasty. In fact, this was one of the qualities that set it apart from "lo habitual." On our "Heat Indexes," this registered at around 0.05 ... with Los Dos Molinos being at around 9.5 (reference for those on the list who have tried Los Dos). Truly, Salvadoreño food must vary widely by region and restaurant -- or it could be that we are "Chile Heads"; it's probably the latter. New Mexico-style Mexican food seems to be consistently the spiciest ... much more so than that from Sinaloa, Veracruz, Sonora ... Stay tuned for another episode of "Extreme Dining" ... Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 11:45:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CGiree027923 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:44:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:45:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB6D21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 12:44:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2981570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:44:53 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CGik0W010354 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:44:46 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6D6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 12:44:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200506121644.j5CGik0W010354@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:44:46 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Brad's Memorial To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does anyone here have any updated information on the specifics of Brad's memorial service in Kentucky? Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 11:47:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CGlPee028304 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:47:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:47:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB6D3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 12:47:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2981752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:47:25 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CGlOAZ010714 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:47:24 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB6D39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 12:47:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200506121647.j5CGlOAZ010714@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:47:11 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Retirement is BAD! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hey, Betty -- How's the "retirement acculturation" going? :> Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 12:49:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CHn0ee002181 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:49:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:49:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6E4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 13:48:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2983354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:49:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CHmxv4015483 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:48:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1378950nzo for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr2226824nzd; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CzVLYLZBL2dEZGp9gxzXnBWdagN6aVhM4xPpxaDoSJ6isHcVnHt6oKzTTQSApL+ulCYF4ChPRIhL7MlWZiZbMMYoZy74/KOwciPyqiGTeYk3TyHfdglq0kI1ot7BJKcEzCmwp2je4OD4edJm57dg6jsINgYpyONL/2p7mh9CgX4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061210485096a1d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:48:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_La_Comida_Salvadore=F1a?= In-Reply-To: <200506121639.j5CGdWB0010020@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506121639.j5CGdWB0010020@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5CHmxv4015487 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/12/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > >> Ah, thank you. In what ways did the plain pupusas "rock" above the "one of > >> each" of the others you mentioned you had tried? > > > >I liked the flavor better. > > Of plain fried masa for tortillas? Of the pupusa+accoutrements. > Truly, Salvadoreño food must vary widely by region and restaurant -- or it > could be that we are "Chile Heads"; it's probably the latter. That would be my guess--I don't like hot food, and almost never eat Mexican food unless I'm forced to. (Which happens oftener than one would think.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 12:54:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CHsVee002966 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:54:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:54:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB6E01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 13:54:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2983276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:54:26 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CHhvoV014936 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:43:58 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j5CHhvFO001582 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:43:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200506121743.j5CHhvFO001582@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: packing Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Whoops - I forgot that I have to take some stuff that I normally never > take on trips: sheets and a pillow, maybe (I am awaiting information), a > clock-radio w/alarm, detergent, my coffee stuff, etc. So i went to TJMaxx > and bought another new suitcase, this one large enough for everything > other than my computer, a few books, and the bare essentials (see earlier > discussion). I'll be there 27 nights - so I an now trying to figure out > how many times I want to launder stuff, etc., so I will know how much > stuff to take. If I have to take towels, I will take some almost worn thin > - then toss them at the end of the trip. In my many stays in college dorms for conferences and music workshops, bed linens, pillows & towels were supplied, though they are of 'minimal' quality. I'd check with the folks running your conference. I've taken to bringing one good towel for drying off after a shower --- a needed 'luxury' for me. Alternatively Travelsmith may still sell a towel that is very quick drying --- and works well if you can't bring along one of your own. Also keep in mind the sheets are nearly always flat and are not long enough to fit the bed and so rarely stay in place... I'd consider taking an extra-long twin-size fitted sheet if I were staying a month. It is also too bad that Colgate-Palmove no longer makes a combination detergent/softener product that came in a disposable packet (no leaking bottles to worry about) that worked great on trips where one had to do laundry. Sure hope your dorm will be air-conditioned --- Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 13:14:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CIEaee005227 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:14:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:14:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00679243@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 14:14:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2983697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:14:35 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CI4Zw7016601 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:04:35 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j5CI4YXS001982; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:04:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200506121804.j5CI4YXS001982@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: access to words-l archives at UGA Cc: jboor@math.umb.edu Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just registered a password to access the listserv archives at UGA --- used jboor@math.umb.edu address which is the address used for my words-l subscription. After waiting for confirmation to go through and all, I am now told that I don't have access using that address and password. What goes? Does anybody know what I might have done wrong? Thanks, Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 13:25:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CIOtee006131 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:24:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:25:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6E98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 14:24:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2984055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:24:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CIOsqQ017872 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:24:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so487nzo for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.15 with SMTP id n15mr1434981nzc; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:24:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z1A1gk79nXCcd6O1RAirpXPusjr18NF+29kFPwnomiVn5rxUbA6DwqilBGZ6u/b8YqNNV1srlv3VBfikZxBB9kFzCnSm2TV9WKSL0HbTTC+pyNEMHFMOg/BbkSsG/AnRGiCFRIkGr0y4JBtb8XEQgueR/i9u96YPgqtLvnTHKJg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061211246cc0c980@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:24:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA In-Reply-To: <200506121804.j5CI4YXS001982@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506121804.j5CI4YXS001982@math.umb.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5CIOtqQ017873 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/12/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > I just registered a password to access the listserv archives at > UGA --- used jboor@math.umb.edu address which is the address used for > my words-l subscription. After waiting for confirmation to go through > and all, I am now told that I don't have access using that address and > password. > > What goes? Does anybody know what I might have done wrong? This is a pretty dumb system. I'd just try again. You do have to use the address you're signed up to Words-L with--the only time I had a problem, that was it, but it's not obvious. You may have typoed, but it's too dumb to know that. I think it has to confirm you, too. Or maybe there are password restrictions (that it's too dumb to tell you about...). You get the gist. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 13:49:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CInGee008924 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:49:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:49:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB6EC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 14:39:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2984487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:39:16 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CIdF1b019173 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:39:16 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so898408wri for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.48 with SMTP id e48mr2093494wre; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:39:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P97XQzgFxk70ZUP+LVhTimUMXSa9P8GD3ojMpFphd/WaBvPcJNy6Ez+u/wv7yMVlXcMYi88gQo0lr8OgBUo1oSIg/upNcGSo2RJ1Y+qY9LiDUYpz2LVqITwALrIZ0vmpD9fTWA3AGuWmpKhQ5Hf2Vy56FY3S6J8zjfGAxmrwHHI= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:39:15 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A738C6.50101@akad.ee> <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5CIdG1b019174 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I would guess if they live on any server, that they are either with Anne or bookrat. But if the gallery is lost, so be it. Maybe we can rebuild. Marie On 6/11/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 08:49:26PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 08:36 PM 6/10/2005, you wrote: > > >Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > >>Larry scanned some Brad photos. Is Samant in charge of the words-l > pages > > >>now? Who should I send them to? > > > > > >Are there Words-L pages now? I thought they had died. I think it was > > >RitaC, who is apparently no longer with us, who bitched about my > > >bitching about the loss of the picture gallery. So maybe since she's > > >gone I'll feel free to bitch again: I found the loss of that gallery > > >horrifying. And I curse myself frequently for having stupidly trusted > > >other Wordslers to keep it intact. I could have kept those pictures. > > >But I didn't. I assumed that they would remain accessible to all of > > >us. But they didn't. > > > > http://www.words-l.org/ > > > > It mentions Brad's passing and gives his web page. > > What picture gallery are you talking about? I have not gotten > extremely involved in the words-l site. At some point I copied > all I could from MEM's "placeholder" site, and I have made, to > my knowledge, all of the (very few) changes people asked me to. > If you describe the pictures, I will see if they have ended up > on this server ... > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:07:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CJ6uee011415 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:06:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:07:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00679435@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 14:46:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2984427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:46:55 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CIasu8018982 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:36:54 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j5CIas8g002229 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:36:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200506121836.j5CIas8g002229@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wrote Karen: > On 6/12/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > > I just registered a password to access the listserv archives at > > UGA --- used jboor@math.umb.edu address which is the address used for > > my words-l subscription. After waiting for confirmation to go through > > and all, I am now told that I don't have access using that address and > > password. > > > > What goes? Does anybody know what I might have done wrong? > > This is a pretty dumb system. I'd just try again. You do have to use > the address you're signed up to Words-L with--the only time I had a > problem, that was it, but it's not obvious. You may have typoed, but > it's too dumb to know that. I think it has to confirm you, too. Or > maybe there are password restrictions (that it's too dumb to tell you > about...). > > You get the gist. I did try twice --- and now I tried going directly to http://listserv.uga.edu and then asking to view archives. I entered my email address and and newly-confirmed password --- again was told that I was not authorized to access the archives using the email address I supplied -- and I typed it correctly.....I even extracted the URL the system generated which contains my email address, copied it to a textfile and it is correct. UGH !!! Does one need to be authorized? Maybe Adam knows what goes. Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 14:07:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CJ6uee011417 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:06:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:07:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00679285@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 14:53:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2984735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:53:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CIr9Me021044 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:53:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so77582nzp for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr2235008nzh; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 11:53:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J1QD+6ls+YC9W4PSrGKqrvXxidcPsoZseTl1oCz/wIhuAKTdXvFgQVtSBFmgci4xyudUrlHgopsmMakI37O2eEhPA2YSt8fAIN8p6tc19a8exyem4iYUnzsTIHeoMQdcSbUTMKAuiNR8nRE7HOdBwZdRKFDrmKyigtBE6/C9NhM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050612115369519ec0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 13:53:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA In-Reply-To: <200506121836.j5CIas8g002229@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506121836.j5CIas8g002229@math.umb.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5CIr9Me021047 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You authorize yourself. Sorry I can't be more helpful; I'm at work, and I don't have the time. Karen On 6/12/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > Wrote Karen: > > On 6/12/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > > > I just registered a password to access the listserv archives at > > > UGA --- used jboor@math.umb.edu address which is the address used for > > > my words-l subscription. After waiting for confirmation to go through > > > and all, I am now told that I don't have access using that address and > > > password. > > > > > > What goes? Does anybody know what I might have done wrong? > > > > This is a pretty dumb system. I'd just try again. You do have to use > > the address you're signed up to Words-L with--the only time I had a > > problem, that was it, but it's not obvious. You may have typoed, but > > it's too dumb to know that. I think it has to confirm you, too. Or > > maybe there are password restrictions (that it's too dumb to tell you > > about...). > > > > You get the gist. > > I did try twice --- and now I tried going directly to > http://listserv.uga.edu > > and then asking to view archives. I entered my email address and > and newly-confirmed password --- again was told that I was not authorized > to access the archives using the email address I supplied -- and I typed > it correctly.....I even extracted the URL the system generated which contains > my email address, copied it to a textfile and it is correct. > > UGH !!! Does one need to be authorized? Maybe Adam knows what goes. > > Joan > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:42:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CLgCee024383 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:42:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:42:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB7179@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 17:42:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:42:12 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5CLWAqP005127 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:32:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 68863 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Jun 2005 21:32:10 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:32:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Up Yours, Kentucky Message-ID: <20050612213209.GA68148@words-l.org> References: <42AC45C6.6070604@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AC45C6.6070604@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 09:25:10AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I enjoyed Mr. Agnew's irritated tone in this column -- an irritation > shared by most Mississippians at ignorant stereotypes: > > http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050612/COL0402/506120371/1201 I didn't. Can you believe the number of words in it? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 16:44:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CLiRee024552 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:44:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:44:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB718B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 17:44:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:44:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5CLYPsS005384 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:34:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 69928 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Jun 2005 21:34:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:34:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service Message-ID: <20050612213425.GB68148@words-l.org> References: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 02:39:15PM -0400, Marieber Meeber wrote: > I would guess if they live on any server, that they are either with > Anne or bookrat. But if the gallery is lost, so be it. Maybe we can > rebuild. No, we MUST keep chewing the same cud over and over. "Rebuild" is for punks. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:19:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CMJMee027851 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:19:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:19:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB7207@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 18:19:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2991774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:19:22 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CMJL1f010027 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:19:21 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612221921.UZBK13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:19:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612221921.YPLP11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:19:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACB4E5.2080906@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:19:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> <736070461.20050611161406@gailndan.com> <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050612083021.01bf7b90@pop.gwi.net> <42AC412A.4040003@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050612103101.01c09228@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050612103101.01c09228@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > In that pop-up box, one of the items (I think it's the last one) gives > you > the option of using the "wizard" to download your files directly into My > Pictures. It's after that, or perhaps at the extreme bottom of that box, > that the "delete all afterwards" option is presented. I just dumped some more pictures onto the computer and didn't see those choices, but I can explore it again (with the same bunch of pictures since they're still on the card). I made myself use the clunky-feeling camera with its sad view-finder for almost all of today's pictures and am getting more used to it, just as I expected. At some point I did something -- don't know what -- that caused the view-finder to do something new: In addition to showing an *extremely* murky hint of vague outlines of what you're about to shoot, it started popping up a picture beside that after you click -- a picture of the picture you just took, sort of like the screen on the back does on most cameras. It's too hard to see anything through the view-finder to tell much about those pictures, but at least you can get a sense of the brightness or darkness -- like I probably could have told that the picture of Larry cutting the cake was too dark to be any good. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:23:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CMNsee028230 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:23:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:23:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB7211@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 18:23:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2991846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:23:54 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CMNrUh010278 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:23:53 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612222353.VDZE13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:23:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612222352.YQQF11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:23:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACB5F5.3040509@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:23:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA References: <200506121836.j5CIas8g002229@math.umb.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506121836.j5CIas8g002229@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan Boorstein wrote: >I did try twice --- and now I tried going directly to > http://listserv.uga.edu > >and then asking to view archives. I entered my email address and >and newly-confirmed password --- again was told that I was not authorized > > Many (most?) Wordslers who use the archives use these: http://ftp.msstate.edu/docs/words-l/Archives/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:25:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CMPnee028364 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:25:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:25:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB7267@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 18:25:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2991902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:25:49 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CMPm4X010500 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:25:48 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612222548.VGAQ13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:25:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612222548.YRDB11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:25:48 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACB669.1010809@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:25:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Up Yours, Kentucky References: <42AC45C6.6070604@maynor.net> <20050612213209.GA68148@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050612213209.GA68148@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 09:25:10AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>I enjoyed Mr. Agnew's irritated tone in this column -- an irritation >>shared by most Mississippians at ignorant stereotypes: >> >>http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050612/COL0402/506120371/1201 >> >> > >I didn't. Can you believe the number of words in it? > > I didn't notice the number of words in it. And I don't remember it now since it's been a busy day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 17:27:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CMQuee028504 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:26:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:27:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB7269@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 18:26:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2991920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:26:55 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CMQtlC010640 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:26:55 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612222655.VHFF13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:26:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612222654.YRKP11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:26:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACB6AB.90806@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:26:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A743C6.2070007@akad.ee> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <20050612213425.GB68148@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050612213425.GB68148@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> But if the gallery is lost, so be it. Maybe we can >>rebuild. >> >> >No, we MUST keep chewing the same cud over and over. > > And you can't rebuild 1991 in 2005. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 18:38:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CNc7ee002230 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:38:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:38:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB7355@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 19:38:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:38:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CNc5he015874 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:38:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so83491nzp for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr2350964nzd; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:38:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T7LCXeN/1YiMAzXJMzU++Or0435xnxDjj3hYdmLCp4TxAmiqdX5Gzwp3tcFtL0dLMzBxO8G0GFhm9OZpIVDtIr5w570dLuFAdsLiW6yvnUILDLOCztIlnLbQ7FTzCzjVU4cZByi+YCzcDx/UVmFTNCJBAmMf4f8cSxwhVQ9JPZw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061216383d705ce2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:38:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service In-Reply-To: <42ACB6AB.90806@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <20050612213425.GB68148@words-l.org> <42ACB6AB.90806@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5CNc7he015875 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/12/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> But if the gallery is lost, so be it. Maybe we can > >>rebuild. > >> > >> > >No, we MUST keep chewing the same cud over and over. > > > > > And you can't rebuild 1991 in 2005. There's that positive attitude that we so admire. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 18:53:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CNrWee003921 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:53:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:53:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006797E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 19:53:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:53:31 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CNrUMY016849 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:53:31 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050612235329014003npqde>; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:53:30 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: The Camera Answer Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:55:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > camera yet. I need to do some more studying of the manual since at this > point I find the view-finder horrendous. I can barely see anything at > all through it. Did you take the translucent film off it? I remember having to do that for you with your old camera. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 18:55:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CNtJee004109 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:55:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:55:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB73A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 19:55:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:55:19 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CNtILp016945 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:55:18 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005061223551701400kq9m1e>; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:55:17 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Karen's new method Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:57:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061120117601ebd0@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Karen > who discovered a new way to make FrameMaker files uneditable today Uh-oh. Not a disc crash, I hope! --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 18:59:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5CNxdee004594 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:59:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:59:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB7439@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 19:59:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:59:39 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5CNxdCc017274 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:59:39 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612235938.ZJSL13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:59:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050612235938.ZRGZ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:59:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACCC67.6060204@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:59:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grisson Memorial Service References: <000a01c56c5c$f783fae0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A9BDA7.1060302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610203045.06122920@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AA5C37.6050008@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050610204900.02812160@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050611171053.GC67744@words-l.org> <20050612213425.GB68148@words-l.org> <42ACB6AB.90806@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061216383d705ce2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061216383d705ce2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>And you can't rebuild 1991 in 2005. >> >> >There's that positive attitude that we so admire. > > Yes. I am indeed positive that 1991 is gone, never to return -- at least not in my lifetime. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:07:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D07Kee005462 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:07:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:07:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB7444@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:07:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:07:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D07Ig2017994 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:07:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so91565nzp for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.2 with SMTP id u2mr2345192nzb; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:07:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fxS/daVJtl5kPzrXJsCFiPnANmJwcsabi7qV4EERM64weoY+G/Mip9P0wHQXl+SWEyTTshxr33fvzH1bZoX53c88UrimrC+HykGgz2OIsVyXi1EGAFDr7EkNCwSbp+HUv/53OBU0dMik0FLLBIsr0KEWxrN3+1aJF1VS8eK1Tj8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061217077c0b2f4f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:07:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Karen's new method In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061120117601ebd0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5D07Ig2017995 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/12/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Karen > > who discovered a new way to make FrameMaker files uneditable today > > Uh-oh. Not a disc crash, I hope! Nope--I somehow saved it as a read-only file, even though the file attributes didn't list it that way. Had to go to a backup. I've done that twice recently, and I am wondering if I'm accidentally hitting some Top Secret key combination. I have both FrameScript and a local API installed. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:08:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D08Cee005508 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:08:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:08:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB74A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:08:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:08:12 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D08Cmv018062 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:08:12 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ABF498FE65CF5 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:08:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c56fab$fa467760$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: IMFTATL Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:08:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5D08Cee005508 You know those emails that everyone sends you that you didn't ask for and sometimes they are mildly amusing and sometimes they are a terrible waste of your time and space? I usually scan them and smile and then delete. But now I wish I had kept a few. A friend is going to a retirement party and was asked to bring one of the funny things being sent around about retirement. I've had lots of them, and some of them were quite good, but I kept none. If anyone has any, please send to me. Thanx. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:15:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D0Feee006274 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:15:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:15:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00679823@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:15:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:15:39 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0FcLD018727 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:15:39 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050613001537014003nrrae>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:15:37 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: access to words-l archives at UGA Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:17:31 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200506121836.j5CIas8g002229@math.umb.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > UGH !!! Does one need to be authorized? Maybe Adam knows what goes. > > Joan I do. You're using the wrong address. :) Use CS instead of Math and you'll be golden. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:21:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D0Kxee006791 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:21:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:21:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB74B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:10:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:10:58 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0AvcW018236 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:10:58 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005061300105601400kqdr2e>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:10:57 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: access to words-l archives at UGA Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:12:50 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200506121804.j5CI4YXS001982@math.umb.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan wrote: > I just registered a password to access the listserv archives at > UGA --- used jboor@math.umb.edu address which is the address used for > my words-l subscription. After waiting for confirmation to go through > and all, I am now told that I don't have access using that address and > password. > > What goes? Does anybody know what I might have done wrong? Your subscribed address is jboor@cs.umb.edu. Try that instead. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:21:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D0Kxee006790 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:21:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:21:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB750B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:20:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:20:04 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0K3Pk018976 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:20:03 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005061300200201300h2f4te>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:20:02 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Karen's new method Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:21:55 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061217077c0b2f4f@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Nope--I somehow saved it as a read-only file, even though the file > attributes didn't list it that way. Had to go to a backup. > > I've done that twice recently, and I am wondering if I'm accidentally > hitting some Top Secret key combination. I have both FrameScript and a > local API installed. Could be. The second option for Save as Type: field in the Save dialog box is "View only (*.fm)" so maybe you somehow changed that by accident. Good thing you had a backup! --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:21:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D0Kxee006788 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:21:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:21:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB74BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:13:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:13:05 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0D5lO018362 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:13:05 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613001305.DLBW2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:13:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613001304.FGXG8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:13:04 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >Did you take the translucent film off it? I remember having to do that for >you with your old camera. > > This one didn't have that film on it. Meanwhile, I must report that I am discouraged: pictures of graves seem to be worse with the new camera than with the old. What I do when taking grave pictures is just take them, not writing down anything. Then when I start putting them on Find-a-Grave I give the dates and stuff from the pictures. The pictures are my recording of the info. With the new camera, some are unreadable. And even those that are readable are sometimes grainy and ugly. Here's a random (not in the strict scientifc sense) example. With new camera: http://tinyurl.com/ct5qs With old camera: http://tinyurl.com/778c2 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:32:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D0WWee008061 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:32:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:32:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB7503@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:22:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:22:32 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0MUnM019151 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:22:30 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005061300222901300h2f5re>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:22:30 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: The Camera Answer Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:24:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > are my recording of the info. With the new camera, some are > unreadable. And even those that are readable are sometimes grainy and > ugly. Here's a random (not in the strict scientifc sense) example. > > With new camera: > > http://tinyurl.com/ct5qs > > With old camera: > > http://tinyurl.com/778c2 Go up a quality level on the new one and see if that makes a difference. It looks like there was some compression on the new picture (but that may have been done by the website). The thinner vertical lines in the text is a give-away that some sort of compression is happening. IMHO. Others know better. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:33:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D0XDee008161 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:33:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:33:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB74F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:33:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:33:13 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0XD5n019877 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:33:13 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613003313.DUPU2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:33:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613003312.FMGL8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:33:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACD445.2050308@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:33:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >Go up a quality level on the new one and see if that makes a difference. It >looks like there was some compression on the new picture (but that may have >been done by the website). > There's compression at that site, I'm sure. But those pictures were on the same site with its same compression. The one with the new camera was one of the ones I took yesterday at resolution M2 -- high medium -- supposedly far better than somebody like me needs. The one with the old camera from a few weeks ago was with medium of its three choices. All of the pictures I took today with the new camera I took at the highest resolution, but some of the dates on the tombstones are unreadable. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:39:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D0dIee008875 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:39:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:39:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB7553@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:39:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:39:18 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0dHCf020357 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:39:18 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111402414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:39:15 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050612172442.027dd020@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:40:36 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Retirement is BAD! In-Reply-To: <200506121647.j5CGlOAZ010714@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506121647.j5CGlOAZ010714@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:47 AM 6/12/2005, you wrote: >Hey, Betty -- > >How's the "retirement acculturation" going? :> > >Amy I'm adapting nicely. Thank you. I just got back from San Francisco. After my book club meeting today I drove to the Cliff House and walked part of the Coastal Trail. It was beautiful and I was sorry that I wasn't prepared to walk further. I had picked up "Stairway Walks in San Francisco" by Adah Bakalinsky when I was spending my gift certificates at Barnes and Nobles and I want to eventually do all the walks. After eating my packed lunch on the beach I made the mistake of driving to Pier 39. What was I thinking? Traffic was horrible and it was much more crowded than yesterday. Next trip over will be on BART on a week day. It still feels as if I am just on vacation. We have lots of trips planned for the next five months and I want to work on de-cluttering. I might start and I might not. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:53:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D0r6ee010058 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:53:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:53:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB7540@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:53:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:53:06 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0r4qL021451 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:53:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB758E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:53:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200506130053.j5D0r4qL021451@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:53:04 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:23:49 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Joan Boorstein wrote: > >>I did try twice --- and now I tried going directly to >> http://listserv.uga.edu >> >>and then asking to view archives. I entered my email address and >>and newly-confirmed password --- again was told that I was not authorized >> >> >Many (most?) Wordslers who use the archives use these: > >http://ftp.msstate.edu/docs/words-l/Archives/ > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) That's an ftp site, no? I think most recent archive reading sign-up talk has been about the uga archives. One guess is that you're aliased in your email address. I wouldn't be able to view through my current work address; its actual address is so ...unlearnable. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:56:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D0uTee010331 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:56:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:56:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB7599@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:56:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:56:29 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0uSAr021810 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:56:28 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so989933wri for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.10.7 with SMTP id 7mr2218233wrj; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:56:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JSUrQWpdOwCMvh2LvsHrMHVdKgXtDylNXX56zFgHunNhtpsTBPemWotudfipl3SajlIxM6VRqGcCWZBe1NNZGBhzTyTb5KiaqGtqIo2Wg+zthvOqFeTUA956+lvO5f4b2CN85T9/nVWy1faPN9pz9ptM/5BzPugl5+IWTm0L6nQ= Message-ID: <83db447a05061217564547e287@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:56:28 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: peach-colored sky Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5D0uTee010331 After dinner tonight (salmon under parchment for Bonnie, a lamb rack for me), it was nice to sit out on the new deck and enjoy the twilight. The sun set, leaving peach-colored clouds near the western horizon. Overhead, the few small puffs of clouds were lightly peach-colored against a powder blue sky---a color combination that I probably wouldn't enjoy in any other situation, but seemed right for this evening. The lights of the cars descending from the Cadillac summit twiinkled as the cars passed some of Rockefeller's teeth. The birds are active. Male cardinals are singing their hearts out---establishing (or more likely, reaffirming) their territories. There were a couple other calls this evening that I couldn't identify; not surprising---I'm by no means an accomplished birder. I did put out the hummingbird feeder this afternoon---I thought I heard the characteristic chirp. No visits yet. We haven't seen the purple finches that usually nest in the cedars that border our deck. It's either too early, or they found another place with fewer (or no) cats to make them nervous. In the twilight, the white pine at the back corner of the yard was very pretty. It has candled nicely---the new shoots arising from each branch like so many middle fingers raised to the sky. (Sorry, but I like that imagery.) On the down side, our neighbor to the back Jim (Grandpa) Parsons is in the hospital in Bangor, where they are trying to decide among the various cardiac options (angioplasty, stents, etc.) Apparently, he had a minor heart attack a week ago and checked himself into the ER here in Bar Harbor; once they stablized him, they moved him to Bangor. I hope they decide, and treat, soon. He's in his mid-80s, has silicosis (he spent most of his life as a stonemason), and doesn't need to be exposed to all of the exotic pathogens endemic to hospitals. His daughters have gathered to take care of his wife, who has begun the descent into Alzheimer's. As I type this, I think how lucky I am. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 19:58:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D0wbee010459 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:58:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:58:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB7589@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 20:58:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:58:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D0waL8022078 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:58:36 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so1288972wri for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.22.33 with SMTP id 33mr2232191wrv; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:58:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=U5ftHMvUmRA3YvOJ05AawpBGmS+nfr3Z/jnUBZELpGMOlXvsJDp1B80p8uO3Z7rIsPOaWuk9SZL0uXB34aOKruvUcmFIvWdWtIxRZ0ccGqZaElHKvX/iiLrSqOhI7ZPiIbLLzIF2xSJ20R+AZuYKYLNksWmPzDKgzBSHtywMEUQ= Message-ID: <83db447a0506121758859fabd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:58:36 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Retirement is BAD! In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050612172442.027dd020@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506121647.j5CGlOAZ010714@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050612172442.027dd020@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5D0wbee010459 On 6/12/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > It still feels as if I am just on vacation. Yeah---I remember the feeling. Trust me---it will pass. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 20:27:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D1Qgee012915 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:26:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:27:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB75AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 21:22:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:22:38 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D1MbBR023729 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:22:37 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050613012236014003npbae>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:22:37 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: peach-colored sky Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:24:30 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <83db447a05061217564547e287@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > me), it was nice to sit out on the new deck and enjoy the > twilight. Pictures of the new deck and other renovations? --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 20:27:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D1Qgee012914 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:26:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:27:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB75B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 21:09:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:09:00 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D190xK022935 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:09:00 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613010859.VMNT10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:08:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613010859.HAXT25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:08:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACDCA8.4000407@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:08:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Retirement is BAD! References: <200506121647.j5CGlOAZ010714@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050612172442.027dd020@calmail.berkeley.edu> <83db447a0506121758859fabd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506121758859fabd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >On 6/12/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > >>It still feels as if I am just on vacation. >> >> > Yeah---I remember the feeling. Trust me---it will pass. > > Yes! My life keeps getting more and more hectic. I haven't had the on-vacation feeling in quite a while now. (But it's a pleasant hecticity, at least most of the time.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 20:27:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D1Qgee012913 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:26:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:27:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB756D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 21:06:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:06:41 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D16fXb022834 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:06:41 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613010641.VLFV10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:06:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613010640.HAGA25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:06:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACDC1D.70305@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:06:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA References: <200506130053.j5D0r4qL021451@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506130053.j5D0r4qL021451@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Many (most?) Wordslers who use the archives use these: >> >>http://ftp.msstate.edu/docs/words-l/Archives/ >> >> >That's an ftp site, no? >I think most recent archive reading sign-up talk has been about >the uga archives. > > Yes, I realized that the recent discussion was about the uga archives. I mentioned the other archives since no registration is required and since I know that various Wordslers use the ftp archives instead of being subscribed to the list. Elwood is one. I think Rashmi is another. And there are others. If I have occasion to look at the archives, that's where I go. It seems simpler to me than messing with the uga archives. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 20:36:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D1ZSee013493 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:35:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:36:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00679960@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 21:35:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2999484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:35:27 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D1PQnn023970 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:25:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so996406wri for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.10.7 with SMTP id 7mr2230107wrj; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.142.81.30? ([216.142.81.30]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 26sm1182996wrl.2005.06.12.18.25.26; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:25:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:reply-to:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=jKilAJKq2DkysVc32BKpnbMEYz7ma3Qc+XfwYBMDV+WWhC+nVbAGKT5H4WtOrIcf0/qci50R0en+m4+YeFux73q40QVv1Hs3+WJ5TxJqj+9wxtBDYvRKJs0DWdLOYhqNypGHRlQddeSTfwP1cRZ5OTzqCiuUI0rRyFEo9SlgeBI= Message-ID: <42ACE0BD.8000501@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:26:21 -0500 Reply-To: mysterian@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA References: <200506121804.j5CI4YXS001982@math.umb.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506121804.j5CI4YXS001982@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Anne Toal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan Boorstein wrote: >I just registered a password to access the listserv archives at >UGA --- used jboor@math.umb.edu address which is the address used for >my words-l subscription. After waiting for confirmation to go through >and all, I am now told that I don't have access using that address and >password. > >What goes? Does anybody know what I might have done wrong? > >Thanks, >Joan > > > Send a REV WORDS-L command to Listserv to verify exactly how Listserv knows you. If you're not authorized from that address, it means the address under which you're subscribed is different. No dumb systems, only dumb users :-) -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 21:22:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D2MUee019297 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:22:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:22:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB7788@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 22:17:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3001517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:17:59 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D27vKn026907 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:07:57 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613020757.PXCO13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:07:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613020757.XMPX25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:07:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACEA79.4030906@ra.msstate.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:07:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: I Am Certified Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I got a membership certificate at church today. I was supposed to have gotten it during the yearly honoring new members, but that happened to be the Sunday I was in SF -- or on my way home from SF. So I got it today. Here's a picture of it (taken with the old camera -- I took one of it with the new camera, but everything was unreadable, alas): http://www.maynor.net/Temp/uu.jpg -- -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 21:22:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D2MUee019298 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:22:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:22:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB7752@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 22:12:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3001686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:12:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D2CT2o027402 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:12:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so131993nzp for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.10 with SMTP id t10mr2179668nzt; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nErS/HMQ6TAQlwY9PG0KJh288QcqDpDDxFeJR9Mr5WrHM/fhbRqPBdT7f0Xg2LmtU+8JW+mnUcgp6WNyaTEt5ERD9T0OfFNFhyuQHMGASn59VOYS1xsm2Ztyt480IdgRWQy27Dbc5Ygko7bP/c54jchTbtNehpIkSlACb5Jjk/c= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061219127c4bf67f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:12:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Karen's new method In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061217077c0b2f4f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5D2CT2o027403 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'll check this tomorrow. This sounds rather likely. On 6/12/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Nope--I somehow saved it as a read-only file, even though the file > > attributes didn't list it that way. Had to go to a backup. > > > > I've done that twice recently, and I am wondering if I'm accidentally > > hitting some Top Secret key combination. I have both FrameScript and a > > local API installed. > > Could be. The second option for Save as Type: field in the Save dialog box > is "View only (*.fm)" so maybe you somehow changed that by accident. > > Good thing you had a backup! > > --Adam > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 21:32:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D2WYee020104 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:32:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:32:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB77DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 22:32:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:32:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D2WXSh029287 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:32:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1012562wri for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.2 with SMTP id o2mr2260668wrc; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:32:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iv3E0wcdhmeDp1+gVoIXbjIvuRLsSykKnVAo9AF5wsSK/Tlshj4gW/szatxtdkcPaFHF29OgsQOiVL9AcXlmw0Hymn5siPDbDB585V0YjkFSHU75y0MZ1TSP/rbZG5Z3SgaF72vaPf3xbUxBDno9wTTa2RmB7yIlWoIlzeLfa+8= Message-ID: <83db447a050612193217a3b904@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:32:33 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: peach-colored sky In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a05061217564547e287@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5D2WYee020104 On 6/12/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > me), it was nice to sit out on the new deck and enjoy the > > twilight. > > Pictures of the new deck and other renovations? The house doesn't look all that different---we were able to match the color fairly closely. Bonnie has taken some pictures---maybe she'll post them on Webshots. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 21:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D2aJee020367 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:36:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:36:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB779F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 22:36:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:36:19 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D2aIos029578 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:36:18 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1013389wri for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.77.7 with SMTP id z7mr2265703wra; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:36:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rdKwPVBmDMNdVEVXpl3l5u+0j6mSC3dztKjoB9DDAc3t1k+bIJUidxzpp6Erco/rM/CKGPlGih5ex6+R85lO/bJlcYSXAtKrWnxdCO4JhOU59Vg52jRdKjlQYW+AxHrOPH1za2OAPzojvkPk8BLx6PfruRmUJjIGXrT2IuJSd3U= Message-ID: <83db447a050612193674a2a832@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:36:18 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Retirement is BAD! In-Reply-To: <42ACDCA8.4000407@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506121647.j5CGlOAZ010714@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050612172442.027dd020@calmail.berkeley.edu> <83db447a0506121758859fabd@mail.gmail.com> <42ACDCA8.4000407@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5D2aJee020367 On 6/12/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > >On 6/12/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > >>It still feels as if I am just on vacation. > >> > >> > > Yeah---I remember the feeling. Trust me---it will pass. > > > > > Yes! My life keeps getting more and more hectic. I haven't had the > on-vacation feeling in quite a while now. (But it's a pleasant > hecticity, at least most of the time.) That's not exactly what I meant. After a while, the notion that "this all will end and I'll have to go back to work" will fade. At that point, one can really relax and decide what to do next (if anything). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 21:55:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D2t9ee022586 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:55:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:55:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB77BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 22:45:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:45:09 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D2Z8QJ029435 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:35:08 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j5D2Z7V2004794; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:35:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200506130235.j5D2Z7V2004794@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA Cc: jboor@math.umb.edu Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thought I had asked Adam to change my subscription from cs.umb.edu to math.umb.edu a long way back (after I could no longer send mail from cs.umb.edu) ... I haven't been able to send mail from cs.umb.edu for a good number of years ... So I agree it is I who was wrong about accessing the UGA archives. But then why am I able to post to the list from math.umb.edu? I thought you could only post from an address from which you were subscribed. Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 21:55:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D2t9ee022590 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:55:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:55:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB7835@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 22:47:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3003290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:47:58 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D2lweY030446 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:47:58 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.99]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613024758.GLFZ2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:47:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.99]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613024757.GZSH8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:47:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42ACF3DA.20403@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:47:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA References: <200506130235.j5D2Z7V2004794@math.umb.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506130235.j5D2Z7V2004794@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan Boorstein wrote: > But >then why am I able to post to the list from math.umb.edu? I thought you >could only post from an address from which you were subscribed. > > No, it's still an open list. The only difference is that your postings taken about ten minutes longer to show up if it's a non-subscribed address. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 12 21:55:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D2t9ee022588 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:55:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:55:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB782B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 12 Jun 2005 22:49:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3003402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:49:38 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D2nbxP030619 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:49:38 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111420648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:49:37 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050612195035.027d8810@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:50:56 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA In-Reply-To: <200506130235.j5D2Z7V2004794@math.umb.edu> References: <200506130235.j5D2Z7V2004794@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:35 PM 6/12/2005, you wrote: >I thought I had asked Adam to change my subscription from cs.umb.edu to >math.umb.edu a long way back (after I could no longer send mail from >cs.umb.edu) ... I haven't been able to send mail from cs.umb.edu for >a good number of years ... > >So I agree it is I who was wrong about accessing the UGA archives. But >then why am I able to post to the list from math.umb.edu? I thought you >could only post from an address from which you were subscribed. > >Joan Anyone can post. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 01:08:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D68Lee011344 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:08:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:08:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB7FC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 2:08:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3018566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:08:21 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D68KDt012108 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:08:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <200506130608190120014c0ve>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:08:20 +0000 Message-ID: <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:08:19 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie writes, > With the new camera, some are > unreadable. And even those that are readable are sometimes grainy and > ugly. Here's a random (not in the strict scientifc sense) example. There's aliasing in the new camera sample, but it's from findagrave reducing it in size with poor quality algorithm. When are the pictures grainy and ugly for you? In Lview? On findagrave? Can you post some of the original photo files you find really bad, with a short description of what you see (or don't see)? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:37:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D8ajee022422 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:36:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:36:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067A047@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 3:26:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3019942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:26:43 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D7QghA017042 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:26:42 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5D7QfQ0010797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:26:41 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5D7Qe4w010795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:26:40 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:26:40 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: access to words-l archives at UGA Message-ID: <20050613072640.GA10782@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200506121836.j5CIas8g002229@math.umb.edu> <42ACB5F5.3040509@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42ACB5F5.3040509@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = Many (most?) Wordslers who use the archives use these: = = http://ftp.msstate.edu/docs/words-l/Archives/ = = -- = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Bet not. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:37:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D8ajee022423 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:36:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:37:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067A074@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 4:21:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3020691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:21:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D8Lmhb022041 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:21:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1090888wri for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.110.12 with SMTP id i12mr1806582wrc; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:21:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VRLuFDsgzP1HA/qUtpQIkQioFgAL+ZOPhaC9ob9hY/hGGL7YuteSDmt3d7lERANShRtrBmsxYXCDwOmBDAxKDL8z1PEZtAcbz6YrmeHmGpDUmF6Qxe4TjG1lG653vivd7NgaYqI53ciAhVlhHn4ocJWDXBVQQH8v+s4+LPDOItA= Message-ID: <8865866a05061301212fc15799@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:21:48 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: peach-colored sky In-Reply-To: <83db447a05061217564547e287@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <83db447a05061217564547e287@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5D8Lmhb022042 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > After dinner tonight (salmon under parchment for Bonnie, a lamb rack for > me), it was nice to sit out on the new deck and enjoy the twilight. The sun > set, leaving peach-colored clouds near the western horizon. Overhead, the > few small puffs of clouds were lightly peach-colored against a powder blue > sky---a color combination that I probably wouldn't enjoy in any other > situation, but seemed right for this evening. The lights of the cars > descending from the Cadillac summit twiinkled as the cars passed some of > Rockefeller's teeth. > The birds are active. Male cardinals are singing their hearts > out---establishing (or more likely, reaffirming) their territories. There > were a couple other calls this evening that I couldn't identify; not > surprising---I'm by no means an accomplished birder. I did put out the > hummingbird feeder this afternoon---I thought I heard the characteristic > chirp. No visits yet. We haven't seen the purple finches that usually nest > in the cedars that border our deck. It's either too early, or they found > another place with fewer (or no) cats to make them nervous. > In the twilight, the white pine at the back corner of the yard was very > pretty. It has candled nicely---the new shoots arising from each branch like > so many middle fingers raised to the sky. (Sorry, but I like that imagery.) > On the down side, our neighbor to the back Jim (Grandpa) Parsons is in the > hospital in Bangor, where they are trying to decide among the various > cardiac options (angioplasty, stents, etc.) Apparently, he had a minor heart > attack a week ago and checked himself into the ER here in Bar Harbor; once > they stablized him, they moved him to Bangor. I hope they decide, and treat, > soon. He's in his mid-80s, has silicosis (he spent most of his life as a > stonemason), and doesn't need to be exposed to all of the exotic pathogens > endemic to hospitals. His daughters have gathered to take care of his wife, > who has begun the descent into Alzheimer's. > As I type this, I think how lucky I am. > cwv > Two fancy dinners made at the same time? I'm impressed. And I love to hear about how beautiful it is in Bar Harbor. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 03:37:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5D8ajee022424 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:36:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:36:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067A04C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 3:32:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3020001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:33:00 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D7WxDM017703 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 03:32:59 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5D7WwLa010838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:32:58 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5D7WweF010836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:32:58 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:32:58 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050613073258.GB10782@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42ACD445.2050308@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42ACD445.2050308@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = the same site with its same compression. The one with the new camera = was one of the ones I took yesterday at resolution M2 -- high medium -- = supposedly far better than somebody like me needs. The one with the old Please take pictures at the highest possible setting. You need the best. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:10:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DB9tee011450 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:09:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:10:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB81CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:09:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:09:55 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DB9pAw026955 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:09:52 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22873974 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:10:10 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:10:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:09:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <526562202.20050613050954@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crappola In-Reply-To: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80305, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU CF may be getting phased out, but one PLUS of them is they're bigger and thus harder to lose. Not THAT much bigger....you could still carry a dozen in a pocket easily, in case you ever needed to. 6/10/2005, 8:39 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> The Best Buy sales person was right re the phasing out of CF. I just NM> read this re the camera I just bought: NM> ******* NM> The Vari-Angle LCD is now 1.8 in., and the camera has switched from NM> using CompactFlash (CF) to SecureDigital (SD) memory cards. A Super NM> Macro mode allows you to shoot as close as the front element of the lens. NM> ******* NM> from: http://www.photoxels.com/canon-s2-is.html NM> I wouldn't care so much if I had not just a couple of weeks ago bought NM> another CF card -- to add to the two I already had (three counting the NM> tiny one that came with the camera, but I don't even know where it is). NM> So now I bet I have to go out and buy larger versions of the card that NM> comes with the camera -- and I bet they cost more. I do not necessarily NM> regret my decision to buy a new camera -- in fact, I don't regret it at NM> all. But I do regret not having paid more addition to this card business. NM> -- NM> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:11:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBBIee011586 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:11:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:11:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067A15B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:05:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:05:45 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DB5juS026432 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:05:45 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22813759 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:14:48 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:06:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:05:47 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <302505022.20050613050547@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=94032, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/10/2005, 6:17 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Natalie: >> What's a Sally >>store? >> >> BKD> Another example like addy -- a Salvation Army store. BKD> I would think that would be a Salvy. Well, everywhere I've lived (CA, AZ, NM, CO, ID, NE, IL, MN, NH, OH) they've been referred to as Sally stores. But I've not lived in TN or MS, though have visited parts of both. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:11:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBBIee011584 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:11:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:11:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067A24F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:01:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:01:16 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DB1FmX020442 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:01:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22813658 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:10:18 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:01:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:01:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1929052396.20050613050118@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42A9CFD5.6070509@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> <20050610164501.GA24070@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42A9CFD5.6070509@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=94031, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As you've probably learned by now there are at least a half dozen kinds of cards. My reader reads six different ones, though I only have two kinds. Mainly I use CF. dan 6/10/2005, 11:37 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I told her that I would NM> just use the ones I NM> already had -- that surely it would take the same NM> cards as my current NM> camera. She then mentioned that this particular NM> Canon -- the Powershot NM> A95 was the last one that would take that kind of NM> card -- that it was NM> being phased out. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:11:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBBIef011586 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:11:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:11:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067A164@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:08:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:08:30 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DB8TTQ026619 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:08:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22873944 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:08:48 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:08:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:08:32 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <359604731.20050613050832@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Final Camera Question In-Reply-To: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> References: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80304, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU yes. 6/10/2005, 8:30 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But is an SD card any different from the NM> flashcards I already NM> have? This camera's specs say that it uses an "SD NM> card." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:11:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBBIee011582 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:11:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:11:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067A31C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:07:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:07:31 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DB7V8e026563 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:07:31 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22627495 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:30:07 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:07:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:07:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: sakky In-Reply-To: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81283, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/10/2005, 7:15 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I dunno. I just know that I've heard it called NM> Sally here on Words-L NM> Haven't heard that in ftf life -- but I haven't NM> heard addy in ftf life NM> either. I've never heard addy verbalized/vocalized, just typed in emails. And since I don't do chat (other than maybe ten times in my life), don't know for sure if I've seen it there or not....but maybe). dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:12:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBCCee011698 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:12:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:12:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067A296@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:12:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:12:11 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBCBpF027650 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:12:11 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22874025 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:12:30 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:12:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:12:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <572969231.20050613051214@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Actual word question In-Reply-To: References: <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> <8ddfc8a7050601105676ed5343@mail.gmail.com> <2110243174.20050604185653@gailndan.com> <20050605181006.GA77719@words-l.org> <1365111538.20050607095301@gailndan.com> <42A653DF.3090502@maynor.net> <42A6E81F.8070508@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80306, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/10/2005, 9:16 PM, Bookrat wrote: B> The thing that you're missing, Dan, is that addy has B> a certain playfulness B> to it that addr lacks. Addy is sort of flip and B> jaunty. Guess I'm just too old and stuffy instead of flip and jaunty. Guess that's why today I'll wear an orange short sleeved dress shirt and white pants and hush puppies to work. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:37:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBb4ee014370 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:37:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:37:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB82AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:27:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:27:04 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBR3g1029911 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:27:03 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22628018 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:49:39 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:27:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:27:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1733023569.20050613052706@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: AND In-Reply-To: <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> References: <42AA5A1B.8010805@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061108007df2ff90@mail.gmail.com> <42AB25E1.1020904@maynor.net> <42AB2978.6000906@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81287, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/11/2005, 12:12 PM, Rita Leonard wrote: RL> Color me mutant, but I don't have or need a card RL> reader. My camera came RL> with a USB cable. I just plug it in to my laptop RL> and pictures RL> directly from the camera. Too bad. Having that as an option may be nice, but when on a long trip it is good to have multiple cards so that you don't have to lug the laptop along with you. Yeah, I usually have laptop with me, but, for example, didn't on European cruise, since it would have been pretty useless, but multiple large CF cards allowed me to save some 1400 pix, mostly jpg of 3MP camera, with images about 600KB each. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:37:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBb4ee014372 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:37:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:37:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB8272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:32:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:32:12 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBWCsj030401 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:32:12 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.104]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613113212.VREM13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:32:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.104]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613113212.QXZ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:32:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42AD6EB8.5090502@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:32:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: >> With the new camera, some are >> unreadable. And even those that are readable are sometimes grainy and >> ugly. Here's a random (not in the strict scientifc sense) example. > > There's aliasing in the new camera sample, but it's from findagrave > reducing it in size with poor quality algorithm. What's aliasing? > When are the pictures grainy and ugly for you? In Lview? On > findagrave? Both, though uglier on Findagrave. It's in Lview that I do things like read names and dates on graves since I need to submit that info before submitting a picture. I look at the picture in Lview and enter the info on the Findagrave form and submit that form. Then it asks if I want to submit a picture, and I say yes and submit the picture. I was chagrined last night when I couldn't make out some of the dates and thus had to trash the entries. That has happened to me with the old camera only once or twice out of hundreds -- old, badly marked graves that I could barely read the dates on ftf. > Can you post some of the original photo files you find > really bad, with a short description of what you see (or don't see)? I'm down to only a handful of originals left on my computer -- but have all of them still on the card -- haven't erased the card yet. I don't have time right now to play with the card again but will do so later today -- wanted to anyway to explore more of the copying options Clyde and I were discussing. I'll see what's left in the folder of undealt-with pictures already on the computer -- i.e., untouched in any way except for being spat from card to computer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:39:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBdAee014536 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:39:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:39:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067A3B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:39:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:39:10 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBdAbt030872 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:39:10 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.104]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613113910.VTRO13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:39:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.104]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613113909.SOV25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:39:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:39:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Can you post some of the original photo files you find > really bad, with a short description of what you see (or don't see)? Here's an example from the few originals I still have on the computer. I have no objection to anything about the way the picture looks except for the rather large problem of not being able to read the certificate: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/originalpic.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:39:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBdUee014571 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:39:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:39:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067A3B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:39:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:39:30 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBdTGZ030902 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:39:29 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22814725 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:48:32 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:39:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:39:32 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <452528670.20050613053932@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: house manuals In-Reply-To: <42ABA570.5010203@maynor.net> References: <42A989D9.6050508@maynor.net> <497639815.20050611161542@gailndan.com> <42ABA570.5010203@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=94038, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Imagine you can find the state archives easily enough, and they'll sure have the paper as one of their most used resources. Now finding the picture could be a problem if you don't know the date, of course. But perusing old film can be pretty entertaining....at least as entertaining as reading this , and usually more so. 6/11/2005, 9:01 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Good point. I am sure that it would be on microfilm NM> in the state NM> archives, though it may take some effort to find it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:39:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBdYee014578 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:39:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:39:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067A3B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:39:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:39:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBdXFf030912 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:39:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so355577nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr2567976nzb; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:39:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PyT48XAR/MOVCs17E7PRUofALkmOphEKhauH76eXE3JG5LfP7ViXOpP3p8r9Fof33c+SFWSXJ7AeHd/9SVTdjs90MyBf6tP6/EPaDtl67Qaqt819XCEGxX/DS9Mi/l0nnLHaIjU6J1AmC492dLoaykorWIqTcNe3AhEV3Ccru80= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:39:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky In-Reply-To: <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DBdXFf030913 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/10/2005, 7:15 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> I dunno. I just know that I've heard it called > NM> Sally here on Words-L > NM> Haven't heard that in ftf life -- but I haven't > NM> heard addy in ftf life > NM> either. > > I've never heard addy verbalized/vocalized, just typed in emails. And > since I don't do chat (other than maybe ten times in my life), don't > know for sure if I've seen it there or not....but maybe). FWIW, I've mostly seen it used by women. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:41:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBfCee014671 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:41:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:41:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB82C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:41:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:41:12 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBfBqI031055 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:41:12 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.104]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613114111.VUTJ13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:41:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.104]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613114111.TBJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:41:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42AD70D3.3020206@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:41:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For a comparable picture taken with the old camera (a picture of a document), see this one: http://www.maynor.net/Genealogy/map1.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:51:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBosee015563 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:50:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:51:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067A31D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:50:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:50:54 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBoriW032084 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:50:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22815097 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:59:57 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:51:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:50:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <859401934.20050613055056@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42AC3FD0.4090304@maynor.net> References: <42A8DF70.8030106@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050609210804.01bdb1e8@pop.gwi.net> <42A8EDC1.6040702@maynor.net> <83db447a0506091839655fa5b@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c56d6b$89c9a8f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42A97DF8.8040700@maynor.net> <42A97FCF.1050303@gmail.com> <42A98804.7040104@maynor.net> <736070461.20050611161406@gailndan.com> <42ABA51A.5060602@maynor.net> <42AC2312.7090004@istori.com> <42AC3FD0.4090304@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=94040, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/12/2005, 7:59 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I thought NM> later how that would NM> presumably be a way to mass-erase, though it seems NM> like overkill if NM> you're erasing a small number of pictures -- like NM> the very few I took NM> yesterday. I prefer my old camera's system (though NM> it does include an NM> extra step of making you make sure that you really NM> do want to erase all). Many cameras come with software for your computer that will auto copy them from card and also have an option to auto delete (or move instead of copy if you prefer) dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:52:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBqCee015667 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:52:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:52:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB8290@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:42:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:42:11 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBgBKS031117 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:42:11 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.104]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613114211.VVGH13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:42:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.104]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613114211.THP25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:42:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42AD710F.3060106@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:42:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACD445.2050308@maynor.net> <20050613073258.GB10782@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050613073258.GB10782@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >= the same site with its same compression. The one with the new camera >= was one of the ones I took yesterday at resolution M2 -- high medium -- >= supposedly far better than somebody like me needs. The one with the old > >Please take pictures at the highest possible setting. You need the >best. > > I did take all of them yesterday at the highest possible setting -- those I took with the new camera, I mean. I left the old camera set on "medium." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:52:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBqCee015670 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:52:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:52:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB82E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:45:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:45:02 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBj2uo031384 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:45:02 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.104]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613114502.VWJP13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:45:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.104]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613114501.UAG25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:45:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42AD71BA.8050006@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:44:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Final Camera Question References: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> <359604731.20050613050832@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <359604731.20050613050832@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >yes. > >6/10/2005, 8:30 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> But is an SD card any different from the >NM> flashcards I already >NM> have? This camera's specs say that it uses an "SD >NM> card." > > I have nothing at all against dead birds -- rather enjoy them many times. But usually dead-bird postings add something interesting or useful when reintroducing a topic. This one strikes me as a very strange dead bird to toss since it would seem quite likely that such info was long ago provided -- that the carcass is of no use or interest whatsoever at this point. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:52:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBqCee015669 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:52:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:52:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB82FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:49:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:49:24 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBnOfU031919 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:49:24 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.104]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613114924.VXZL13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:49:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.104]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613114923.VBT25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:49:23 -0400 Message-ID: <42AD72C0.5060200@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:49:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: house manuals References: <42A989D9.6050508@maynor.net> <497639815.20050611161542@gailndan.com> <42ABA570.5010203@maynor.net> <452528670.20050613053932@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <452528670.20050613053932@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Imagine you can find the state archives easily enough, and they'll >sure have the paper as one of their most used resources. Now finding >the picture could be a problem if you don't know the date, of course. >But perusing old film can be pretty entertaining....at least as >entertaining as reading this , and usually more so. > > I have read microfilm of old newspapers in the state archives many times. In some cases it can be entertaining, in others frustrating since some of the collection is in bad shape -- presumably because the originals were in bad shape. I remember being really frustrated when all that was readable on a torn-looking page was the name I was interested in -- what it said about him was torn off. This wasn't in the CL -- it was in a Raymond, MS, newspaper. I did, however find a good, clear copy of an obituary from a Brookhaven newspaper last time I was at the archives. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:53:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBrDee015773 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:53:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:53:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB82B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:53:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:53:13 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBrCso032236 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:53:12 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22628936 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:15:47 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:53:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:53:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1353179297.20050613055313@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preachers and Dogs In-Reply-To: <42AC41BB.30507@maynor.net> References: <42AC41BB.30507@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81290, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/12/2005, 8:07 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I guess it's NM> a good thing that my church doesn't have Forum in NM> June and July -- Because you'd miss out on the doggy sex there? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 06:55:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DBtFee015941 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:55:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:55:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB830F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 7:55:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:55:15 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBtEeU032552 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:55:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22815259 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:04:17 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:55:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:55:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1174602180.20050613055517@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=5B2=5D=3A_La_Comida_Salvadore=F1a?= In-Reply-To: <200506121639.j5CGdWB0010020@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506121639.j5CGdWB0010020@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=94044, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/12/2005, 10:39 AM, Mrs. Williams wrote: MW> New Mexico-style Mexican food seems to be MW> consistently the spiciest ... much MW> more so than that from Sinaloa, Veracruz, Sonora ... Absolutely. As an ex New Mexican (7 years, and frequent trips back), the hotter the green chile the better. Most places there won't even have red chile....unless some weirdo asks for it. Usually Texans or Californians who are used to that stuff. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:05:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DC5dee017215 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:05:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:05:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB82E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 8:05:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:05:39 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DC5c0G001130 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:05:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22815687 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:14:42 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:06:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:05:41 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=94046, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Several issues. Big one is that you've probably got it on a jpg setting that has too much compression. Second you're not perpendicular to it. Third, you're not close enough. But the big issue is the first one, I'll bet. Or you've got the camera set on some low quality setting (which may be why the jpg is so compressed that it gets pixelized) 6/13/2005, 5:39 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> see (or don't see)? NM> Here's an example from the few originals I still NM> have on the computer. NM> I have no objection to anything about the way the NM> picture looks except NM> for the rather large problem of not being able to NM> read the certificate: NM> http://www.maynor.net/Temp/originalpic.jpg From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:06:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DC6Yee017280 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:06:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:06:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB8330@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 8:06:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:06:33 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DC6XIR001229 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:06:33 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22629498 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:29:10 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:06:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:06:36 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: sakky In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81292, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 5:39 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> FWIW, I've mostly seen it used by women. Good point. Now that I think about it you're absolutely right. See it on a couple groups that are mostly female, and doubt I've ever seen it on a couple groups that are mostly male. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:07:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DC7qee017379 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:07:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:07:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB82FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 8:07:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:07:51 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DC7pWn001410 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:07:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22875916 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:08:10 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:08:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:07:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <245281183.20050613060754@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Final Camera Question In-Reply-To: <42AD71BA.8050006@maynor.net> References: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> <359604731.20050613050832@gailndan.com> <42AD71BA.8050006@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80313, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 5:44 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> that the carcass is of NM> no use or interest NM> whatsoever at this point. Well, I'm glad that it was so boring that you posted a longer reply than the reply that I made. Want to try to do so again? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:21:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DCKuee018582 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:20:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:21:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067A372@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 8:20:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:20:56 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DCKuS1003156 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:20:56 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.104]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613122056.WOZF13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:20:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.104]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613122055.BFDK25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:20:55 -0400 Message-ID: <42AD7A23.5090107@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:20:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Final Camera Question References: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> <359604731.20050613050832@gailndan.com> <42AD71BA.8050006@maynor.net> <245281183.20050613060754@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <245281183.20050613060754@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> that the carcass is of >NM> no use or interest >NM> whatsoever at this point. > >Well, I'm glad that it was so boring that you posted a longer reply >than the reply that I made. Want to try to do so again? > > There was a point in my reply. You apparently didn't get it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:23:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DCMree018751 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:22:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:23:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB835A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 8:12:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:12:53 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DCCqRC002084 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:12:52 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.104]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613121253.WJRF13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:12:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.104]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613121252.BBVW25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:12:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42AD7840.9060902@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:12:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preachers and Dogs References: <42AC41BB.30507@maynor.net> <1353179297.20050613055313@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1353179297.20050613055313@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I guess it's >NM> a good thing that my church doesn't have Forum in >NM> June and July -- > >Because you'd miss out on the doggy sex there? > > As it turns out, Forum is on again. People decided that it would be fun to continue them through the summer and that what we'd do for the topics is plan on listening to the NPR religious show ("Speaking of Faith") that's on between 9 and 10 -- that we could come at 9 instead of the usual 9:30 if we wanted to listen there or we could start listening at home and then continue listening while driving to church -- or in some cases do all the listening while driving since some people drive quite a distance -- I'm lucky in living very close. Then upon arrival we'd keep on listening until it ends at 10 and have 30 minutes for discussion of the topic (and of course morphing into other topics -- the Forum discussions are like Words-L in that respect). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:23:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DCMree018752 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:22:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:23:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB8340@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 8:20:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:20:00 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DCK0Kg002915 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:20:00 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.104]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613122000.WNZL13483.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:20:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.104]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613121959.BESW25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:19:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:19:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Several issues. Big one is that you've probably got it on a jpg >setting that has too much compression. > The camera has a jpg setting?? I thought that kind of decision was made later, on the computer. (And that picture is totally unfooled with except for squirting it from card to computer.) Hmm. I did change the filename after I uploaded it to the server -- changed it from Pocahontas 058 (no extension) to originalpic.jpg -- since that original filename was clumsy. But that change occurred on the server. Did that name change turn it into a .jpg file in its guts? > Second you're not >perpendicular to it. Third, you're not close enough. > But wouldn't those be issues with any camera? My point is that I have rarely had a problem reading any picture of a document that I've taken with the old camera. > But the big >issue is the first one, I'll bet. Or you've got the camera set on >some low quality setting (which may be why the jpg is so compressed >that it gets pixelized) > > The camera was set on the highest resolution. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 07:44:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DCibee021296 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:44:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:44:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB8445@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 8:44:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:44:37 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DCiaO7006456 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:44:36 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-131.gwi.net [216.195.165.131]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5DCiX3T037934; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:44:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050613083334.01bf8708@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:44:04 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: peach-colored sky In-Reply-To: <8865866a05061301212fc15799@mail.gmail.com> References: <83db447a05061217564547e287@mail.gmail.com> <8865866a05061301212fc15799@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:21 AM 6/13/2005, Marcia Franzen wrote: >Two fancy dinners made at the same time? I'm impressed. And I love to >hear about how beautiful it is in Bar Harbor. Well, I guess the salmon is fancier than just throwing it on the grill; the rack was done in minimalist mode. Strange weather today. The forecast was for northerly winds and a high in the mid-70s. At 0839 EDT it is 81F at the airport with winds from the west. Somebody missed something. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 08:28:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DDSPee027385 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:28:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:28:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB84FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 9:18:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:18:25 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DDIPJB011681 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:18:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1178351wri for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.10.22 with SMTP id 22mr1321722wrj; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:18:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MiSeJQftwXv3h0bSbKzyap3Dut9/aYJ9uCz2b3KERWJN19jqs6XsjNaid8rzSepP6Ys2RpFiSQaNuzRyQGfdgiYQOnJnbafdi3lLQAj9AzGPsixbU5cyT1EPDO8Bzd4DM62kbgjP1ie4ABfnpu2bfh/YpI7I1fz3dHJe7K3Moc8= Message-ID: <83db447a0506130618606976ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:18:20 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crappola In-Reply-To: <526562202.20050613050954@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> <526562202.20050613050954@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5DDSPee027385 On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > CF may be getting phased out, That probably is a partial explanation for how the prices have dropped. I plan to keep my present camera for a while, so I guess I'll take advantage of the clearance sales. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:12:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DECeee000367 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:12:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:12:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB87AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:08:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3035445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:08:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DE8gMc022111 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:08:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1744075wra for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.25.13 with SMTP id 13mr2821176wry; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:08:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Mw8MQKSOl6rouL035vzFAHv16p/rJT9kOQok4uKVwrz6mD6OhrHlbqPdMCc/HcQjT4VNBB5HrchavtxGVLBzcmFAXOZJB2qWAPJ1NvJIHOyU0lFH/PUXFhdM9kF1ON9f3Ul3f8cPKkQZfbNVrtteI9snbg8on9ZNh/AT68nJXzs= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050613070868eeb59a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:08:42 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Wild Blueberry Bread In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DE8hMc022113 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/11/05, bonniemaev wrote: > I have never eaten this bread or the cake (recipe to follow). But Susan says > this bread goes over really well. > Looks like another good one. I suspect cranberries would also work well in the bread. Thanks, Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:12:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DECeee000366 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:12:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:12:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB8768@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3034918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:39 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DE2bot020806 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1740557wra for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.8.62 with SMTP id 62mr2812673wrh; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:02:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lRcWxbbYtdbmhjB1dop304hwi94V+GRjKd4cQfuzSWYCnRv1TqlaNr5mWPflUZU40R3LiseAEahEgVfFpu6BUdJKNq1iaW5pEhxR/7B3vutXeGFBasgds0O7C1/t2GteLiTAfH9HteJNAH26iAqAEGSUEQ9zsau6Rp1HCxjf7xo= Message-ID: <44dce1c105061307021383c2a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:36 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blueberry Streusel Coffee Cake In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DE2bot020807 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you, thank you! This looks sooo yummy. Terry On 6/11/05, bonniemaev wrote: > 2 3/4 cups flour > 1 1/2 teaspoon Baking powder > 1 1/2 teaspoon Baking soda > 1 teaspoon Salt > 3/4 cup softened butter > 1 cup sugar > 3 eggs > one pint (16 ounces) sour cream > 2 teaspoons vanilla > > Streusel mixture > 3/4 cup light brown sugar > 3/4 cup chopped nuts > 1 teaspoon cinnamon > 2 cups blueberries > > Combine flour, baking powder, baking soda, and salt. Cream butter and sugar > with electric mixer. Add eggs, one at a time, beating well. Add flour > mixture alternately with sour cream and vanilla to batter. > > Combine streusel ingredients; set aside 1/2 cup. Toss the remainder in with > berries > > Spread 1/3 of batter in a 10 inch greased and floured tube or Bundt pan. > Sprinkle with 1/2 of the berry mixture. Then spread another 1/3 of batter > and sprinkle with remaining berry mixture. Top with remaining batter. > Sprinkle on 1/2 cup of reserved streusel mixture. > > Bake at 375 degreees for 65 minutes. Cool ten minutes. > > -- > --bonniev > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:15:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DEEree000631 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:14:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:15:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067A665@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:14:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3035747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:14:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DEEqFa022917 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:14:52 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1748889wra for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.25.13 with SMTP id 13mr2824886wry; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:14:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=QRlYhowXF23MmXdyM+NMWMjwCro8TsDMKV8XcGLDv7tisx8ap9klYS0w8ZeuDTrUYW6LHctCx6TtNssZNJO64vKZScoJJuofdg7X5miCEHk8jEAWDYRzjbT//+YIJYThqhD78lkXq2LM+a9fW2JCrqwGqz9m19LVDjVgZiEVhqQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:14:52 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: New deck and siding Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5DEEree000631 As requested by the List Honey, I have put up an album with pictures of the new deck and siding. I threw in other pictures of Halloween, black fly season, and the house in a winter snow storm. http://community.webshots.com/album/368362458EfbmlA -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:36:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DEaAee002802 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:36:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:36:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB8844@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:36:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3036395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:36:00 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DEPx2C024424 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:25:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1204949wri for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.20 with SMTP id o20mr2569512wrc; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.32.37 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:25:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=tVFz7wbUp7ol9QFFRL+NMa4kccqhBBzLMgqsL1Z2tZof9B2NLVAWCYfhQIidumDFbwk+mgaF9ORGPG35LJPD/PdMgUjn8GEGrO0ZiQrGFBnM6JTWZ4ANizKQSxabVvNslhyeS8/On6kBWjUMoE1wohpW0vtooke+8tdHzfbL2Qw= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:25:59 -0300 From: Marie Tomlinson Reply-To: Marie Tomlinson To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Rebuild the Gallery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DEPx2C024425 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Send all pictures and who, what, when and wheres here. Let's be wusses and rebuild! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 09:40:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DEeRee003127 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:40:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:40:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067A6C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:40:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DEeNie026400 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:40:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so347137nzo for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.15 with SMTP id t15mr1948623nzg; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:40:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eirZEtpfjjrYZdl0NpipE4zrzc+NwWXGHbvOGurScvdnrRb+Rb1YbZHn76+Em1UtHC4DFGRGUJvISBoE2295Z55xnwC7vtR/ALlFFhlvpMpaQYHiKAe9hgr+cH0ECbqH0cq1aw18QXEwEhXyma2QTnUWhiKhQDL9sOfJ8rp1cWQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061307405628dfe5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:40:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rebuild the Gallery In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DEeOie026401 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Marie Tomlinson wrote: > Send all pictures and who, what, when and wheres here. Let's be wusses > and rebuild! YaY! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 10:13:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DFDIee008045 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:13:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:13:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB891D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:03:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:03:17 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DF3HTA029830 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:03:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1220089wri for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.70 with SMTP id k70mr1386680wrk; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Rf7+lkDQscK8s4G7tKUQdymWahut4YOvg4w39fhiKebUPz9ZvAvBNv1bRiDFx0jhMPNgV7t9z0kBnuoSb873QaVrbhvomywnhch1iAqwsxjZi3gHNUbKJprq3mrihNTHUqZP1ec4W3WM19CCrX6qtKzKh6UiK8/92HLfw5XvKko= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:03:16 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rebuild the Gallery In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061307405628dfe5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705061307405628dfe5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5DFDIee008045 The address is *wordslgallery@gmail.com * On 6/13/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/13/05, Marie Tomlinson wrote: > > Send all pictures and who, what, when and wheres here. Let's be wusses > > and rebuild! > > YaY! > > Karen > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:26:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DGQKee016551 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:26:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:26:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067B099@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:26:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3055119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:10:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DGABh2007812 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:10:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so495989nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.56 with SMTP id u56mr1686547nzg; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:10:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Hz7rKbLvvN0zPdgqUxPIqgbC5XVlz9Z8mUvKBITFK+gxrjV6E42SB/5Jt3bMw7xafcNF4F6meephw05R7/y1/kHkk3Za9SDT8JWJJZor154QoYevUqOPDfRYG8orS+KOJ0nT1cGCYVLeGKvEDF9w7tsqTjFhL+G6Pm1mSTplyno= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:10:11 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky In-Reply-To: <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DGABh2007813 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > AFoA> FWIW, I've mostly seen it used by women. > Good point. Now that I think about it you're absolutely right. I've never heard "Sally store" but I do occasionally say "Vickie's" for Victoria's Secret. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:26:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DGQRee016563 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:26:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:26:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9358@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:26:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3055201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:11:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DGBkOU007991 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:11:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so399856nzo for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.9 with SMTP id l9mr758973nzc; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:11:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=O6aGyAHGM2y++s224vjFHqglRHiYh/a98dW25eFlfKugZoWYzZiHXmZXpcn2LEZuRdz0kNKOnGgF+0ZjqerHKEi3ynDqhWVGxk1x5RhGAKmc+fZAnPU3Ya93xmCgM9KE2mpQpYrZC0FUah7elMYD+cLHlcpx+s8XGotGyChyRdM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:11:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: For Natalie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DGBlOU007992 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.noahs.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/dogtoworkday.main From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 11:32:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DGWcee017246 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:32:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:32:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9433@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:32:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3057161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:32:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DGWaNk011022 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:32:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so411329nzo for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.4 with SMTP id q4mr165893nzq; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:32:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ioHxMCWqNmkY1KT0OGaOXHaTZ9wYXqxjrfnFMRoSqMYF0JkmEZgkSukFT8kfmDL5kTRqa5cNaXicYe3+G/NW5suw2PJ3PiEf4eF6nQbAJXDSyFHGIcmaoaHxR42kyOtQsEnO0v/OY5TIVxlUqAnaVOK44CPjaNxzORJ+yJytECY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050613093226cfeb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:32:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DGWaNk011027 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > AFoA> FWIW, I've mostly seen it used by women. > > Good point. Now that I think about it you're absolutely right. > > I've never heard "Sally store" but I do occasionally say "Vickie's" > for Victoria's Secret. My comment was not meant about Sally--which I've heard from both genders--but about addy. FWIW, you're my first male "Vickie's". Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 12:17:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DHHKee022568 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:17:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:17:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB9537@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:07:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3060008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:07:19 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DH7Jd5017366 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:07:19 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so780297rnf for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.101.26 with SMTP id y26mr752813rnb; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:07:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dXx6Y20jnEiz0idtfvPDUpGjEyPwyQ3Bm+gSMuM8XZuIXEymzDUuYMoQqA3vIhnMPDwPFlZ1oqmoPPGgR2ol0wY+B9lTFOPu3lpkux9CdvUSrjlLV/x8xAfeQnS1UNNq8fOrKiCsj6hh3Z6iIYFZVnDVAkNfTXQUs/ZQW+eafMs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:07:18 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cotswold Way 1 In-Reply-To: <8865866a050612014771c99f86@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a050612014771c99f86@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DH7Jd5017367 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/12/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > Helloooo again! Hellooo... > One of > the highlights there was the new Princess Diana Memorial. I guess > there was a lot of controversy surrounding the memorial. Some people > thought is was ugly and not fancy enough. Well, I thought is was > perfect. It is a happy monument. It is a water sculpture that is like > a little river and the architect used different effects to play with > the water. People were sitting around it, eating ice cream and dipping > their feet in the water. We didn't get a picture because it was hard > to see the monument due to all the people around it. Have they somehow fixed the sliminess, and stopped people slipping and cracking their heads? > Dinner was at a nice pub in Chipping Campden and both Dan and I ate > vegetarian sausages with chips and a Carling (British beer). I think you'll find Carling is about as British as Coors Lite. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoee000445 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:52:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB97BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:12:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3065605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:12:23 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DICMF0028928 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:12:23 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22860265 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:21:29 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:12:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:12:23 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=94456, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 6:19 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >>Several issues. Big one is that you've probably got it on a jpg >>setting that has too much compression. >> NM> The camera has a jpg setting?? I thought that kind of decision was made NM> later, on the computer. Well, most cameras give you a choice between saving it as a RAW image (sort of like a BMP, I believe, with every blessed pixel and thus as many megabytes, roughly, as the camera will do pixels). Or they save them as jpg, which is what most choose, since on my 3.1 MP camera (now four years old, over a grand at the time) it is over 3MB for RAW and averages about 500KB for JPG. And many cameras also have a choice for how compressed you want the JPG to be, just as LView and IView and others do. NM> (And that picture is totally unfooled with NM> except for squirting it from card to computer.) Hmm. I did change the NM> filename after I uploaded it to the server -- changed it from Pocahontas NM> 058 (no extension) to originalpic.jpg -- since that original filename NM> was clumsy. But that change occurred on the server. Did that name NM> change turn it into a .jpg file in its guts? No idea. But I'm betting it was a .jpg in your camera, but don't know. Figure out the size of the images in camera by dividing the number of pix it says you have left when card is empty into the size of the card. >> Second you're not >>perpendicular to it. Third, you're not close enough. >> NM> But wouldn't those be issues with any camera? My point is that I have NM> rarely had a problem reading any picture of a document that I've taken NM> with the old camera. Yes, they are. But your old camera may not (and the new one may not) have an adjustment for amount of jpg compression. And your choice of the "good, better, best" or whatever you called it may be the amount of jpg compression, or best may be raw, or.....RTFM and it'll probably tell. >> But the big >>issue is the first one, I'll bet. Or you've got the camera set on >>some low quality setting (which may be why the jpg is so compressed >>that it gets pixelized) >> >> NM> The camera was set on the highest resolution. Hmmmm.....interesting. More RTFM I guess. I'm interested enough that if you tell me exact model I'll look up the manual on the web....assuming Canon puts them there just like Olympus and others do. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoee000448 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:52:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB985C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:21:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3066264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:21:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DILXAH030432 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:21:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so466939nzo for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.15 with SMTP id n15mr2002464nzc; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:21:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GHgl9xJ1egt/0j5yU2MFAPg7BonfpoeOWDUSNfmT5UycMv8UVYuhRdxIZDtXRLO5H8Q9Rt4TVddLe3QryeQkNIGKhXHnqLy0fHa5yLNL7SJGcuq2gFvFfqu58puEWIIcsUQSdjqSGWEXl7eluOBQmV0RCrj5jfkHXblfHYuVt5k= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:21:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DILXAH030434 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So maybe it is really "Drive your dog to work in your Corvette day". On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Interesting. It is also Drive Your Corvette to Work Day. I drive > mine to work most days (but not in snow or ice), so this is aimed > particularly at those who only drive them on weekends, to shows, etc. > As far as I'm concerned, my Vette is a car and meant to be driven, not > a piece of museum art (though can appreciate a perfectly restored 53 > or 63, etc.) > > > 6/13/2005, 10:11 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> http://www.noahs.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/dogtoworkday.main > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoee000450 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:52:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB983C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:20:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3066172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:20:33 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DIKW24030225 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:20:33 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22861436 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:29:39 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:20:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:20:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=94468, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Interesting. It is also Drive Your Corvette to Work Day. I drive mine to work most days (but not in snow or ice), so this is aimed particularly at those who only drive them on weekends, to shows, etc. As far as I'm concerned, my Vette is a car and meant to be driven, not a piece of museum art (though can appreciate a perfectly restored 53 or 63, etc.) 6/13/2005, 10:11 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> http://www.noahs.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/dogtoworkday.main From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoee000449 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:52:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9830@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:17:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3065935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:17:07 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DIH601029684 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:17:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22928444 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:17:25 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:17:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:17:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1952087792.20050613121706@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Crappola In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506130618606976ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> <526562202.20050613050954@gailndan.com> <83db447a0506130618606976ed@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80570, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 7:18 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> CF may be getting phased out, CV> That probably is a partial explanation for how the prices have dropped. I CV> plan to keep my present camera for a while, so I guess I'll take advantage CV> of the clearance sales. Agree. 3.1mp is enough for me for now, and the camera has optical zoom, no digital zoom, since digital zoom is pure BS. The 512MB CF card I spent 109 for almost two years ago is less than half that now. Haven't checked lately, since that holds about 850 pix on it, which covers me for most things. My dad was a professional photographer and I learned from when I was very young (less than six) that "film is cheap....you only get good pictures by taking a LOT of pictures". The prize winning shot you see of the guy catching the touchdown pass may be the one good one the guy got out of a hundred he shot. Of course back in the olden days we didn't have motor drives or digital or good enough digital video we could freeze any frame....but amounted to the same idea....and electrons are even cheaper than film. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoee000447 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:52:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB981D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:13:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3065777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:13:39 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DIDbKa029187 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:13:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22681532 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:36:15 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:14:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:13:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <638189718.20050613121337@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Final Camera Question In-Reply-To: <42AD7A23.5090107@maynor.net> References: <42AA4CCC.9000205@maynor.net> <359604731.20050613050832@gailndan.com> <42AD71BA.8050006@maynor.net> <245281183.20050613060754@gailndan.com> <42AD7A23.5090107@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81540, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 6:20 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Well, I'm glad that it was so boring that you posted a longer reply >>than the reply that I made. Want to try to do so again? >> >> NM> There was a point in my reply. You apparently didn't get it. I got the point. I just found it ironic that your going on was longer than my comment. But fortunately not deceased birds nor deceased horses or deceased dogs have ever been beaten on this . dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoef000448 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9861@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:25:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3066450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:25:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DIP32E030976 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:25:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so51013wri for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.70 with SMTP id k70mr1496972wrk; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=N0irdHziLODX16pQDJAZ3KRRqzLMOX24Mvc1UaYn/4bKjTUcw2Q3vtRZAieLqV4Ce0nSaqg79VE7NLy1iBdXVwbwRUKG8uJIgXsqjd7icJxObCK5IY44uzwYGfH1g8f7jP/sBPbE/3x8gJ728IbgyNpYHjO/IdyRSZkNEFgwx8s= Message-ID: <83db447a050613112562375f63@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:25:02 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5DIqoef000448 On 6/13/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > So maybe it is really "Drive your dog to work in your Corvette day". Or, "Let your dog drive your Corvette to work day." cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoef000445 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB985D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:21:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3066269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:21:34 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DILXP3030433 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:21:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22929132 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:21:52 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:22:00 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:21:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <537946653.20050613122134@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: sakky In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050613093226cfeb82@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613093226cfeb82@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80573, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 10:32 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> I've never heard "Sally store" but I do occasionally say "Vickie's" >> for Victoria's Secret. AFoA> My comment was not meant about Sally--which I've heard from both AFoA> genders--but about addy. FWIW, you're my first male "Vickie's". I knew you meant addy. But I've never heard of "vickies" though have been there on the rare, VERY rare, occasions I go anywhere near the mall...about once a year. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoef000449 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB986B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:25:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3066521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:25:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DIPjFp031155 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:25:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so626472nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr2793092nzh; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:25:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=i7e2pfydsC3lNylvXn3wmsqKUegQr62HusEGN4d0RWVJsuA1U436Zculr0Mpk370XtFTpTxlIY78HSCivJ5E19DcJiscXyP5L2tMcFOJGwFvV3RE/+Ee5T1ScQ30BdtvYmq3sAHhqivxRRcIoaolcqyT//a5sc6L/DClfNmMhBs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506131125358bc41b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:25:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky In-Reply-To: <537946653.20050613122134@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613093226cfeb82@mail.gmail.com> <537946653.20050613122134@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DIPkFp031158 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/13/2005, 10:32 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> I've never heard "Sally store" but I do occasionally say "Vickie's" > >> for Victoria's Secret. > > AFoA> My comment was not meant about Sally--which I've heard from both > AFoA> genders--but about addy. FWIW, you're my first male "Vickie's". > > I knew you meant addy. But I've never heard of "vickies" though have > been there on the rare, VERY rare, occasions I go anywhere near the > mall...about once a year. It's a girl thing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoef000450 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9880@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:26:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3066532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:26:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DIQCBj031200 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:26:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so626807nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.90.14 with SMTP id n14mr2820653nzb; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:26:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ElX77hRazvWkQ4/YkBRlnAUIqxHqulbH0qhv86zjT5QT9XHL1BQxUay44VWpWryGmROHVKA6MfQWSKkCi9w7XD0lugn7JOlxqnoAm/RkFf87alfKW/NTlliArEbnuNxCD4NQcmouvsYWzQDe2sNzku8V3ObDZIYq8t2zcoFI96w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050613112639992fde@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:26:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <83db447a050613112562375f63@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a050613112562375f63@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DIQDBj031201 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 6/13/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > So maybe it is really "Drive your dog to work in your Corvette day". > > Or, "Let your dog drive your Corvette to work day." Even better! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoef000447 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB98A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:38:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3067369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:38:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DIcH88000967 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:38:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so589200nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.19.20 with SMTP id 20mr3015850nzs; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:38:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kTxkOBXVpgXizv1g47qS32cn3B2Bz5b1cazmMvkr+VljFrTFSfsBsx3RFD2YhIQZ4M37FvnhjRkQ1rRhCbUQwbb+2w+s2KU9I21PA5xrtFhfJbHh1+Fc2y3appZXoE4C97bhhW3ZnSsyZHKK4ylPgZxVin3iMPAjgBPGldGaj6A= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:38:16 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DIcH88000968 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, I don't have a dog or a Corvette, so I guess I'm out of luck. I can't even test-drive one at Carmax. According to carmax.com, there aren't any Corvettes in their area stores. Just as well -- their cheapest used Corvettes with automatic transmission are $28k. Ben moderately happy with his oil-leaking 1997 Taurus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoeg000445 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9938@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:45:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:45:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DIjGPo002274 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:45:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so478180nzo for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.15 with SMTP id n15mr2017585nzc; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:45:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Sb7+gjwms85rP4NOY3bcHIsHnYZjeRFbd8DeeJ5v/81AbZbXkRUghD8TBV9JIfr2iP/zxMfKFE7nWsQCk9KbyN4UjqQO6KJMhlJdkK3GwvE4sVcafTvqtchah0oY2WIR6NNoW2ykkJ9ZGDdya+qr4L+c1NB4D7Yse/OHIX4d1DY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:45:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DIjGPo002278 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Would one actually buy a car from Carmax.com? There's a huge one near my house. I pretty much loathe them--they destroyed the environment *and* they keep their lights on all the time. But I don't know anything else about the business. Karen On 6/13/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > Well, I don't have a dog or a Corvette, so I guess I'm out of luck. > > I can't even test-drive one at Carmax. According to carmax.com, there > aren't any Corvettes in their area stores. Just as well -- their > cheapest used Corvettes with automatic transmission are $28k. > > Ben > moderately happy with his oil-leaking 1997 Taurus > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 13:53:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DIqoeg000448 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:53:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB9972@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:52:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:52:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DIqtPG003746 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:52:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so598365nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.13.13 with SMTP id 13mr3019637nzm; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:52:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gaA2hgXdJiHQeie8X1wee7A4jrerIGqghXyEX/7Xg2uECLJRmEMyey5k6JZa6BiT/2kwIHSHKxsbXkY6a6fUs3gcKC7kUdzJxZDIie8afQWoTw3AEgBPwLFu2KT/5gDkvpSijAYo/zpohMGWOCz/OH1DQBYzeE1XlHiT+WUUwMs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:52:53 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DIquPG003749 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Would one actually buy a car from Carmax.com? I bought my car from CarMax 150k miles ago, and I enjoyed the experience. I brought along Dan's colleague Gina (my girlfriend at the time) to see if they'd show her the mirrors and show me the stuff under the hood, but they treated us equally well. I suspect I might have been able to spend a bit less at a traditional used-car lot, but I liked the idea of being able to take the car to MY mechanic and pay him to run the Car Talk battery of tests on it to make sure it was in good shape. (If I'd found any problems, I'd have used CarMax's five-day money back guarantee.) > There's a huge one near my house. I pretty much loathe them--they > destroyed the environment *and* they keep their lights on all the > time. But I don't know anything else about the business. Blech. They seem to be a better corporate citizen in the abstract -- they donated one million meals (in money, not food) to Second Harvest after selling their millionth car (http://tinyurl.com/bqw4r). Sounds like they made a ridiculously awful decision about where to put your local store, though. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:05:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJ59ee002272 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:05:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:05:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9A41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:05:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:05:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJ58nN006016 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:05:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so651477nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr2817996nzh; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:05:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VMBJ/PfYLuIBRl0GCFfrfMQiZJiHIyZXg0mFV5Gn8urm3x7WErNmwCNAV+vS7w+hox8pLn/5uiFqeZL/bf9s3B03iu8RTGUpVRZTu+/P8O/tbtZUCD9FoIY/9+6r/MLOV/FV0uSLKHqwYX4RPXTtfXMp92cFms58v73J0I07tCM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:05:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DJ58nN006018 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > I suspect I might > have been able to spend a bit less at a traditional used-car lot, but > I liked the idea of being able to take the car to MY mechanic and pay > him to run the Car Talk battery of tests on it to make sure it was in > good shape. (If I'd found any problems, I'd have used CarMax's > five-day money back guarantee.) I don't understand why this is different for CarMax. I have bought cars from private parties and from a dealer, and in every case was able to take it to a mechanic to be checked. > Blech. They seem to be a better corporate citizen in the abstract -- > they donated one million meals (in money, not food) to Second Harvest > after selling their millionth car (http://tinyurl.com/bqw4r). Sounds > like they made a ridiculously awful decision about where to put your > local store, though. Well, something probably had to go there. It's leaving the lights on all night that I find bizarrely offensive. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:06:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJ69ee002394 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:06:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:06:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB9A0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:06:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:06:09 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJ68CS006221 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:06:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22935523 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:06:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:06:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:06:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1541499693.20050613130608@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80612, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I could do that too. Though don't trust her in it with the top down. But who knows if it'll be top down weather in another 11 days or if it'll be raining again. Today is perfect....upper seventies, and upper eighties tomorrow. When it gets closer to a hundred I tend to put it up and turn on the air. dan 6/13/2005, 12:21 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> So maybe it is really "Drive your dog to work in your Corvette day". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:07:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJ72ee002467 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:07:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:07:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9A53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:07:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:07:02 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJ71dB006361 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:07:01 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22689270 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:29:41 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:07:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:07:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <120171595.20050613130702@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <83db447a050613112562375f63@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a050613112562375f63@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81593, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 12:25 PM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> So maybe it is really "Drive your dog to work in your Corvette day". CV> Or, "Let your dog drive your Corvette to work day." Being a Pomeranian, she can't reach the steering wheel and the gas pedal at the same time. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:07:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJ7qee002570 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:07:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:07:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9A5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:07:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:07:51 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJ7p1Q006489 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:07:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22935782 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:08:10 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:08:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:07:51 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <824323245.20050613130751@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: sakky In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506131125358bc41b@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613093226cfeb82@mail.gmail.com> <537946653.20050613122134@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506131125358bc41b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80614, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 12:25 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> I knew you meant addy. But I've never heard of "vickies" though have >> been there on the rare, VERY rare, occasions I go anywhere near the >> mall...about once a year. AFoA> It's a girl thing. Guess so. Though there are always plenty of guys in there when I've been there, in Boise or elsewhere. I've bought things there several times. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:21:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJL5ee004203 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:21:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:21:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067B34F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:01 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJKwmd008521 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:20:58 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.230]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613192058.LYNL16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:20:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.230]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613192057.TVSA4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:20:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42ADDC96.2050802@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:20:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Seven Report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Two crossers and two non-crossers. Want to guess which are which? The four people are Kristen, Adam, Neal, and Rashmi. More later. I've got to wash my sweaty body (couldn't resist another quick run to a cemetery) and get ready to go hear Myrlie Evers read at the Old Capitol Museum. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:22:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJM7ee004361 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9A91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:12:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:12:07 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJC6BG007156 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:12:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so655576nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr2838060nzb; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:12:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ezEopyz4GhLmWBdyjrGIWdirol5tSK8KCeVkU1Q2kRV3dJne7A/Dr/axLLHwHKYp9UBBm/904LyJuJsbZiFbIKiAMZVrY53NXM/ftirKZy8wR/Is9GbcH2wVhqGGAt3zrrj/VFU4PCvWURcBgdh5QdxQoqd3I4+mEHN1o9UcZAw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061312126e44132f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:12:06 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky In-Reply-To: <824323245.20050613130751@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613093226cfeb82@mail.gmail.com> <537946653.20050613122134@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506131125358bc41b@mail.gmail.com> <824323245.20050613130751@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DJC7BG007157 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/13/2005, 12:25 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> I knew you meant addy. But I've never heard of "vickies" though have > >> been there on the rare, VERY rare, occasions I go anywhere near the > >> mall...about once a year. > > AFoA> It's a girl thing. > > Guess so. Though there are always plenty of guys in there when I've > been there, in Boise or elsewhere. I've bought things there several > times. Terminology, Dan, terminology. Not the store itself. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:22:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJM7ee004368 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9ABB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:19:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:19:34 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJJYCn008276 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:19:34 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.230]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613191934.LWDG16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:19:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.230]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613191933.TUIS4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:19:33 -0400 Message-ID: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:19:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Att: Kristin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Your cash made it safely across the ocean! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:22:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJM7ee004366 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB9A4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:14:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:14:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJEKTX007461 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:14:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so611342nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.56.10 with SMTP id e10mr3085479nza; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=d6+krxDzheDqs4bJm/WFgNM2pJr6JtvltbiVmUM1SFMo674krG2YBQjFA3gXgNMN2mPJ1tJjIrLa2+k5/sLOetxc80v55BL3VvhqafPK6CNgYQnipf2ULADbRan1jjldJyubEM1vanBZ4dmv9+otci1Ik+NMhjmP0WB6oMh9ZCI= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:14:20 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DJEKTX007463 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't understand why this is different for CarMax. I have bought > cars from private parties and from a dealer, and in every case was > able to take it to a mechanic to be checked. Oh, okay. I haven't bought a car from a dealer before. > Well, something probably had to go there. It's leaving the lights on > all night that I find bizarrely offensive. Reminds me of the people on Marco Island (Fla.) who use over 40,000 gallons (151,000 liters) of water per month, mostly for watering their lawns. It seems shocking to me. Then again, Florida golf courses apparently use about 11 million gallons (42 million liters) per month PER GOLF COURSE, which any sensible totalitarian government would shut down right away. Not that I want that to happen. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:22:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJM7ee004363 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB9A8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJKwgg008520 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:20:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so660772nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr2847920nzd; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:20:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rEcdr783+2+Cm9ll5fMHfFI+i6E+GqLUIxiRj/XRFa+1gLqvkfsDMJFnZRlCIuFIL9vwDOWry18BliqIX6Jng+/ckltJmvJJF5o7j0FTBMyHtO3eOwWPAIXdyhr919ZKrKTep7sgFtDAsVktB6csmkQEP+Y+LhvScerpmUM0mmc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050613122055c906ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:20:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DJKwgg008522 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > I don't understand why this is different for CarMax. I have bought > > cars from private parties and from a dealer, and in every case was > > able to take it to a mechanic to be checked. > > Oh, okay. I haven't bought a car from a dealer before. > > > Well, something probably had to go there. It's leaving the lights on > > all night that I find bizarrely offensive. > > Reminds me of the people on Marco Island (Fla.) who use over 40,000 > gallons (151,000 liters) of water per month, mostly for watering their > lawns. It seems shocking to me. > > Then again, Florida golf courses apparently use about 11 million > gallons (42 million liters) per month PER GOLF COURSE, which any > sensible totalitarian government would shut down right away. Not that > I want that to happen. In the area of excesses, I just read that IBM's new supercomputer will use $400,000-500,000 of electricity per year. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:22:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJM7ef004361 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9ADC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:11 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJLBQt008580 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:11 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.230]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613192111.LYXI16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.230]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613192110.MPBJ5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42ADDB03.5080507@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:14:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: It Got Here, Kristen! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Your cash made it safely across the ocean, Kristen. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:22:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJM7ef004368 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9ADD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:12 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJLBwj008583 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:11 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.230]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613192111.LYXT16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.230]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613192111.TVXY4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:21:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42ADDB9D.1010907@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:16:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: More Sevens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Two crossers and two non-crossers. The four people are Kristin, Adam, Neal, and Rashmi. Anybody want to guess which ones are crossers and which non-crossers? More later. I made another race out to a cemetery somebody had alerted me to and now need to wash my sweaty body and get ready to go hear Myrlie Evers read at the Old Capitol Museum. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:22:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJM7ef004366 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9ACE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:22:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:22:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJM4d3008709 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:22:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so661496nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.118.4 with SMTP id q4mr2846844nzc; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:22:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kCh3ewLwOqvNMTlezLftREIVGbB3rkOvkVpeA2dA6Oi0a7s9URmzOpdZcMWMeC1Gbqte87Sd1hozFkKytQpxQiEper+xidnlyoG0kyhHaKbUIYH5DucWHsxyidSFcJT9ngmov9jNl2t7nQx2N6pxGwAG0LRL9MXZIJRgwt5wYew= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061312221dbfb729@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It Got Here, Kristen! In-Reply-To: <42ADDB03.5080507@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADDB03.5080507@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DJM4d3008712 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Her name is Kristin. On 6/13/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Your cash made it safely across the ocean, Kristen. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:22:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJM7ee004369 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9A98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:13:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:13:48 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJDm7K007382 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:13:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <200506131913470110040j4pe>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:13:47 +0000 Message-ID: <42ADDAE9.80504@istori.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:13:45 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/originalpic.jpg Examining the EXIF camera data embedded in the file, there are two main problems with this pic: 1. The image size is 640x480 (0.3 megapixels). The image size on the camera was apparently set to Small. 2. The shutter speed was 1/8th of a second. The aperture was set to 2.7 (wide open), so it was apparently too dark for a good picture without flash, but the flash wasn't used for some reason. The blur is probably mostly camera shake. To avoid camera shake, the shutter speed should ideally be 1/50th or faster. (As an aside, the image stabilization can help with slower shutter speeds, and I've gotten good pics at 1/8th, but the conditions have to be right. We can discuss that more after figuring out the basic problems you're having.) I don't see any big JPEG artifacting, so it doesn't seem to be a compression problem to me. So, you need to set the image resolution to higher resolution, and figure out why the flash didn't fire. An aside regarding resolution, I think it's silly to shoot at less than best resolution and lowest compression (Large+Superfine for you), unless you have a really compelling argument that you'll run out of memory somehow (and even then, the answer is to get more memory, it's cheap). It's easy to go from high-resolution to low-resolution pictures; but you can't go from low-resolution to high-resolution if you happen to need to if you didn't save the data in the first place. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:25:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJPBee004646 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:25:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:25:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067B360@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:25:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:25:11 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJPAEP009141 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:25:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22938239 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:25:29 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:25:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:25:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1219560477.20050613132510@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80637, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 12:38 PM, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: BO> Well, I don't have a dog or a Corvette, so I guess I'm out of luck. BO> I can't even test-drive one at Carmax. According to carmax.com, there BO> aren't any Corvettes in their area stores. Just as well -- their BO> cheapest used Corvettes with automatic transmission are $28k. Well, Carmax doesn't cover Boise, Salt Lake, or anywhere else around here. But there are over 800 Vettes on ebay. e.g. this one in automatic, looks nice, in Florida, 27,900 to "buy it now". Current 22,100 doesn't meet the reserve, which I'd guess is about 26,000. Of course there are others at all prices. We bought our first one used, locally, but bought current one on ebay. Checked dealer out carefully and then bought it, sent deposit, and flew to DFW where they picked us up, we test drove it, and checked it out, then Gail gave him the cashier's check for the remainder, we signed the papers, and were on our way home....spending a week meandering and visiting and having a good time. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:29:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJT2ee005033 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:29:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:29:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067B36F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:29:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:29:01 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJSwPj009864 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:29:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22871257 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:38:05 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:29:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:28:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <389239788.20050613132858@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=94531, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 1:05 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Well, something probably had to go there. It's leaving the lights on AFoA> all night that I find bizarrely offensive. Why? Lots of places do. And if they have cars sitting in a lot, I think that is pretty standard practice. Makes it MUCH easier for cops, security cameras, etc, to detect anyone messing with, trying to steal, etc. They built a Honda dealership right next to my sister's house in Utah. Like the property line is ten feet from her house. Lights always on. She kind of likes it since it give extra lighting to her house for security too. She does NOT like the blaring PA system over the lot saying "Joe Jones, Line 2" and such all the time. About once a week she bitches at them to turn it down...and they do for a couple days. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:31:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJVYee005381 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:31:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:31:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067B37A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:31:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:31:34 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJVX78010261 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:31:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id B337798BD1 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:31:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29945-07 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:31:31 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C464497835 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:31:31 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42ADDEF6.6070802@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:31:02 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Seven Report References: <42ADDC96.2050802@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42ADDC96.2050802@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.519 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Two crossers and two non-crossers. Want to guess which are which? The > four people are Kristen, Adam, Neal, and Rashmi. Who is Kristen? :-) Kristin > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:33:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJWsee005547 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:33:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9ADE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:24:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:24:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJOj4s009093 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:24:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so617474nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.227.62 with SMTP id z62mr3093751nzg; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IYC3OTGyS4DPpYBKHYWeNz64b4IVu8DBujFqHMojIjgefaCNpF2SlJRycfX7HTM4GDjRRxnGXnd44MFfqb0kQqSnHTUhOClIziIFxcQAFnTYoJtuoE4qCNJWZBIDCQIWJMbeLZ1zh/XTFRfK9gf6dRrFOH9KBuqInJNv28Px7+Q= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:24:45 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050613122055c906ee@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050613122055c906ee@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DJOj4s009095 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In the area of excesses, I just read that IBM's new supercomputer will > use $400,000-500,000 of electricity per year. I'm starting to think Google's next strategic move will be a safe fusion reactor. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:33:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJWsee005548 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:33:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB9AB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:26:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:26:52 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJQpK4009454 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:26:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B3B98BFC for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:26:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29360-07 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:26:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9823A98BB0 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:26:46 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:26:17 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Kristin References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.518 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Your cash made it safely across the ocean! Good! Was it very silly to send cash? I understood at first as if Espen was going to send cash as well. So I decided to do so, although I've never done it before (I thought it was a thing nobody ever did.) Now, to think, to get a check from the bank wouldn't have been as difficult as I thought at first, but... I must run away in a moment, cannot write more. At least you saw my 7s! I do not remember whether I crossed them (it?) or no. Usually I do, but sometimes when trying to write "beautifully" I don't. But my 1s are always hooked, I guess. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:33:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJWsee005546 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:33:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9AD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:22:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:22:53 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJMrK2008848 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:22:53 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.12.38.230]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613192252.MBVY16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:22:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [65.12.38.230]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050613192252.TXOR4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:22:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42ADDD08.9030901@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:22:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Hmm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As I think I said recently, sometimes Mozilla behaves in strange ways. Two messages that were slow going (which was no doubt BellSouth's fault, not Mozilla's) seemed to vanish -- not in unsent mail, not in sent mail, nowhere. So I rewrote them, and they went out. Now suddenly the original two have hopped into sent mail. Oh well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:33:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJWsee005549 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:33:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB9AB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:26:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:26:53 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJQrAA009462 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:26:53 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005061319265201400jg2d3e>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:26:52 +0000 Message-ID: <42ADDDFB.5000608@istori.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:26:51 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester writes, > I'm interested enough that if you tell me exact model I'll look up the > manual on the web....assuming Canon puts them there just like Olympus > and others do. PowerShot S2 IS http://tinyurl.com/78rl5 -- which resolves to: http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=SupportDetailAct&fcategoryid=223&modelid=11368 Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:33:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJWsee005545 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:33:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9B2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:32:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:32:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJWkk8010414 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:32:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so667711nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.15 with SMTP id m15mr2852053nzb; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:32:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ivW+J7GlxP0qpLD/atGU0dNnZUhmfdoOlgsdi+dkbUn3nxAlQbiTtuGuzcG0UPF85BJG3Z2xl9EKI/k98ql3AfO+ss3yqeUgOI0J1By1ZQP0P+TTu67tV4RJVR1AvrOds6cg+e7Wy0PvkKuPDiJBSnhIJh1Wm1JubMqALc951m8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050613123272721625@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:32:46 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <389239788.20050613132858@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <389239788.20050613132858@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DJWlk8010415 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > AFoA> Well, something probably had to go there. It's leaving the lights on > AFoA> all night that I find bizarrely offensive. > > Why? Lots of places do. And if they have cars sitting in a lot, I > think that is pretty standard practice. Could be. That doesn't mean I have to approve of it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:43:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJhOee007051 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:43:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:43:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9B32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:33:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:33:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJXG7v010483 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:33:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so668003nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr2854469nzu; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:33:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nGIBu+HPY6stNwIW+0ToWDXkE6G3HZet0SHcg2jHzVnPeMTU0njjk8gURIV016pAq3b403zw2kUJi3MgoSvSi2JxZmXuyTriE/LrK0CcWI0xTWVHTpXhZkT2vSB87P1fwWKOiSpEzk+DlNOyRgzrVZQEEfIExuWJ2HS61b55dns= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506131233492bb0f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:33:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Seven Report In-Reply-To: <42ADDEF6.6070802@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADDC96.2050802@maynor.net> <42ADDEF6.6070802@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DJXH7v010485 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Two crossers and two non-crossers. Want to guess which are which? The > > four people are Kristen, Adam, Neal, and Rashmi. > > Who is Kristen? :-) A 7-crosser.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:44:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJicee007206 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:44:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:44:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9BC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:44:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3073172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:44:38 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJibxB012887 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:44:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22873547 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:53:44 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:45:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:44:37 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <606588657.20050613134437@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050613122055c906ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050613122055c906ee@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=94548, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 1:20 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> In the area of excesses, I just read that IBM's new supercomputer will AFoA> use $400,000-500,000 of electricity per year. Probably depends if it is up here in the PNW or in some other benighted place with triple or quadruple our rates per KWH. Sort of reminds me of people complaining about auto pollution (which is a legitimate problem, don't get me wrong).....but think of the amount of horseshit there would be to shovel if we didn't have cars. Same thing with all the people and all their shit if they were still using log tables and such to do that math.... dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:46:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJjqee007357 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:45:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:46:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067B3D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:45:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3073269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:45:31 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJjS45013050 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:45:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22941318 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:45:47 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:45:53 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:45:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1527777109.20050613134527@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050613122055c906ee@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80658, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 1:24 PM, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> In the area of excesses, I just read that IBM's new supercomputer will >> use $400,000-500,000 of electricity per year. BO> I'm starting to think Google's next strategic move will be a safe BO> fusion reactor. They should start down in Utah.....seems there was some cold fusion activity there a few years ago.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 14:46:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DJjqee007355 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:45:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:46:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067B49F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:35:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3072242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:35:51 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJZoCc011148 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:35:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22872303 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:44:58 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:36:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:35:51 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <615648020.20050613133551@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=94540, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 1:14 PM, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: BO> Then again, Florida golf courses apparently use about 11 million BO> gallons (42 million liters) per month PER GOLF COURSE, which any BO> sensible totalitarian government would shut down right away. Not that BO> I want that to happen. Hey, I thought your problem down there was too much rain, hurricanes, tropical storms, floods, sinkholes, and all that. Someone's gotta use it don't they? In summer (when our rates go up, of course), our water bill runs about 150 a month. With winter rates and no watering of lawn or 55 rose bushes, plus other plants, it goes down to 25 or so. Sort of the reverse of the way the gas bill goes. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:06:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DK5wee009852 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:05:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:06:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB9B8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:47:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3073391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:47:07 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJl6jt013353 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:47:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22941540 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:47:25 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:47:32 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:47:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <22632681.20050613134706@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050613123272721625@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <389239788.20050613132858@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613123272721625@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80662, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 1:32 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> AFoA> Well, something probably had to go there. It's leaving the lights on >> AFoA> all night that I find bizarrely offensive. >> >> Why? Lots of places do. And if they have cars sitting in a lot, I >> think that is pretty standard practice. AFoA> Could be. That doesn't mean I have to approve of it. Oh, understand that. Was just pointing out it isn't just for the hell of it, or even just for marketing. Is there light pollution at your house, or is it just the idea of all the power being used, or something else? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:06:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DK5wee009854 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:05:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:06:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9BFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:53:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3073879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:53:04 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJr16p014372 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:53:01 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22874842 for multiple; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:02:04 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:53:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:52:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1622636067.20050613135257@gailndan.com> To: dlester@boisestate.edu CC: Andy Lester , cinda@homesight.org Subject: Fwd: Politically correct story?? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=94556, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've not seen this one before.... This is a forwarded message Subject: Politically correct story?? ===8<==============Original message text=============== >When Osama bin Laden died, he was met at the Pearly Gates by George >Washington, who slapped him across the face and yelled, "How dare >you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive!" > >Patrick Henry approached, punched him in the nose and shouted, "You >wanted to end our liberties but you failed." > >James Madison followed, kicked him in the groin and said, "This is >why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!" > >Thomas Jefferson was next, beat Osama with a long cane and snarled, >"It was evil men like you who inspired me to write the Declaration >of Independence." > >The beatings and thrashings continued as George Mason, James Monroe >and 66 other early Americans unleashed their anger on the terrorist >leader. > >As Osama lay in pain, an Angel appeared. Bin Laden wept and said, >"This is not what you promised me." > >The Angel replied, "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting >for you in Heaven. What did you think I said? ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Dan Lester dan@gailndan.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:06:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DK5wee009853 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:05:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:06:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FB9BE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:55:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3074139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:55:50 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DJtnu7014784 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:55:49 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-131.gwi.net [216.195.165.131]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5DJtjMM089484; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:55:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050613152854.01c069b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:32:10 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Crappola In-Reply-To: <1952087792.20050613121706@gailndan.com> References: <42AA4EE9.2000108@maynor.net> <526562202.20050613050954@gailndan.com> <83db447a0506130618606976ed@mail.gmail.com> <1952087792.20050613121706@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:17 PM 6/13/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >Agree. 3.1mp is enough for me for now, and the camera has optical >zoom, no digital zoom, since digital zoom is pure BS. The 512MB CF card >I spent 109 for almost two years ago is less than half that now. >Haven't checked lately, since that holds about 850 pix on it, which >covers me for most things. I bought a 256 MB SanDisk CF in April for $25. That gives me three, one of which--the first one---is pretty slow. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:08:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DK8Cee010142 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:08:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:08:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9CD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:08:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3075515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:08:11 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DK8AgG017175 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:08:11 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5DK8AZA014879 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:08:10 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5DK8Aaq014877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:08:10 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:08:09 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050613200809.GA14688@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <42ADDDFB.5000608@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42ADDDFB.5000608@istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = http://tinyurl.com/78rl5 -- which resolves to: = http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=SupportDetailAct&fcategoryid=223&modelid=11368 = = Pete Thanks Pete. The last time I went looking they were decidedly *not* online. I got shipped one with German manuals. Swell, but for the fact that I can't really read German! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:29:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DKSiee012691 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:28:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:28:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9D5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:23:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3076701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:23:45 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DKNiQ2019777 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:23:45 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3881715A17A74 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:23:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00da01c57055$c7b0f000$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1622636067.20050613135257@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Fwd: Politically correct story?? Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:23:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Don't let the press get hold of this! Good lord, the torture, the torment! - D. M. Subject: Fwd: Politically correct story?? > I've not seen this one before.... > > This is a forwarded message > > Subject: Politically correct story?? > > ===8<==============Original message text=============== >>When Osama bin Laden died, he was met at the Pearly Gates by George >>Washington, who slapped him across the face and yelled, "How dare >>you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive!" >> >>Patrick Henry approached, punched him in the nose and shouted, "You >>wanted to end our liberties but you failed." >> >>James Madison followed, kicked him in the groin and said, "This is >>why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!" >> >>Thomas Jefferson was next, beat Osama with a long cane and snarled, >>"It was evil men like you who inspired me to write the Declaration >>of Independence." >> >>The beatings and thrashings continued as George Mason, James Monroe >>and 66 other early Americans unleashed their anger on the terrorist >>leader. >> >>As Osama lay in pain, an Angel appeared. Bin Laden wept and said, >>"This is not what you promised me." >> >>The Angel replied, "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting >>for you in Heaven. What did you think I said? > > ===8<===========End of original message text=========== > > -- > Dan Lester dan@gailndan.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:29:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DKSiee012686 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:28:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:29:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FB9D12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:15:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3076196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:15:39 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DKFcuv018604 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:15:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22878069 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:24:46 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:16:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:15:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <685571473.20050613141538@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050613130850b0e68f@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <389239788.20050613132858@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613123272721625@mail.gmail.com> <22632681.20050613134706@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613130850b0e68f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=94581, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 2:08 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Oh, understand that. Was just pointing out it isn't just for the hell >> of it, or even just for marketing. Is there light pollution at your >> house, or is it just the idea of all the power being used, or >> something else? AFoA> I live across from a 350-acre park.Carmax is at the far NE end of the AFoA> park. I think their lights affect the ecology of the park. Hmmmm.....not doubting, just don't know enough about how they would do that. Keep the grass growing longer, affect the birds, something else? Just curious. How far do the lights penetrate into the park (imagine depends on whether wooded, open grass, playgrounds, etc.) Can you see the lights from your house on the other side of the park? Interesting....not an angle I'd thought of. Well aware of light pollution on astronomers, even now at places like Kitt Peak and Mauna Loa, to say nothing of Palomar and many others. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:29:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DKSiee012690 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:28:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:29:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9D43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:20:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3076469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:20:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DKKHHO019274 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:20:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so520614nzo for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.96.4 with SMTP id t4mr2831649nzb; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:20:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OjG9dWu7Acg7OmlJm9+Nk/BKnxGbrs5P81zz/5Q56T3xdiJl4fg4gVLZ0AnWN1LtENDKC8CxNaAys99P3lRTt/sj/mTQyV9815ZkZS6INHYtxMxXWd8erIwQYIw/AV8Q9Si07n75avcrGqWBfM/q6o+3nqNPPrXBvESAgfbLM20= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050613132046123613@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:20:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <685571473.20050613141538@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <389239788.20050613132858@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613123272721625@mail.gmail.com> <22632681.20050613134706@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613130850b0e68f@mail.gmail.com> <685571473.20050613141538@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DKKIHO019275 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Hmmmm.....not doubting, just don't know enough about how they would do > that. Keep the grass growing longer, affect the birds, something > else? Just curious. They affect wildlife patterns > How far do the lights penetrate into the park (imagine depends on > whether wooded, open grass, playgrounds, etc.) Can you see the lights > from your house on the other side of the park? I can see the glow of them. > Interesting....not an angle I'd thought of. Well aware of light > pollution on astronomers, even now at places like Kitt Peak and Mauna > Loa, to say nothing of Palomar and many others. There is also light pollution in your backyard. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 15:29:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DKSiee012687 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:28:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:29:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FB9CDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:08:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3075549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:08:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DK8c3e017243 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:08:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so688936nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr2871765nzb; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:08:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=D8iHKSvU7jGB5xZ8A+efQS8XaBpNIKP1vpmF/+bLyOoSTLfMflHjDZCySwgAoon3k2/ACjeqFZ30rzjMLPbkkivVciVRZ1M7KX/8AXmMH2t4SQ3QYnFlraRhUK6HdC9tkxo8Qqd5Jd890XmoM4JkFnO68GHmS2YmtqJ4jrJWq1I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050613130850b0e68f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:08:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <22632681.20050613134706@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <389239788.20050613132858@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613123272721625@mail.gmail.com> <22632681.20050613134706@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DK8d3e017246 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Oh, understand that. Was just pointing out it isn't just for the hell > of it, or even just for marketing. Is there light pollution at your > house, or is it just the idea of all the power being used, or > something else? I live across from a 350-acre park.Carmax is at the far NE end of the park. I think their lights affect the ecology of the park. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 18:16:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DNGlee030128 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:16:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:16:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBA20D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:06:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:06:47 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DN6k8i008482 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:06:46 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B6B175BECDE1 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:06:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Moonwalk? Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:06:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5DNGlee030128 So Michael walked. But then, he doesn't walk like other people. I am neither surprised nor not surprised. Just didn't make a judgement and didn't have an opinion. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 18:17:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DNHhee030236 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:17:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:17:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBA201@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:17:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:17:43 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DNHgKJ009821 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:17:42 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-131.gwi.net [216.195.165.131]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5DNHclA002856; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:17:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050613191324.01c08d78@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:17:14 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:06 PM 6/13/2005, Doris Markland wrote: >So Michael walked. > >But then, he doesn't walk like other people. > >I am neither surprised nor not surprised. Just >didn't make a judgement and didn't have an >opinion. In these days of global warming, the Iraq quagmire, a shaky economy, and the continuing revelations of sexual abuse by Roman Catholic clergy, whatever this one freaked-out rocker did or didn't do pales into insignificance. Oh well, it did put Paris HIlton on the back pages for a while. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 18:40:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DNeXee000251 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:40:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:40:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBA261@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:40:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:40:33 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DNeWjQ011887 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:40:32 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22725280 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:03:13 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:40:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:40:25 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1622357469.20050613174025@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050613132046123613@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <389239788.20050613132858@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613123272721625@mail.gmail.com> <22632681.20050613134706@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613130850b0e68f@mail.gmail.com> <685571473.20050613141538@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613132046123613@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81819, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 2:20 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Interesting....not an angle I'd thought of. >> Well aware of light >> pollution on astronomers, even now at places >> like Kitt Peak and Mauna >> Loa, to say nothing of Palomar and many others. AFoA> There is also light pollution in your backyard. Of course. There is a factory about a mile away (Micron Technology, where they make RAM and other chips), and especially on overcast or foggy nights there is a lot of light (from their parking lot security lights....they work 24/7 in chip fab, of course). And the street light across the street from my house sends some....and on and on. There isn't much of anywhere there isn't some light pollution. Maybe the middle of the sahara, or parts of antarctica or siberia? thanks for the info on what it is like there. i understand your frustration, but sure don't have an answer, legal or otherwise. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 18:43:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DNh1ee000497 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:43:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:43:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBA2BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:43:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:43:01 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DNh0x3012406 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:43:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22725513 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:05:42 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:43:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:42:59 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81821, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We're just thoroughly disgusted. Admittedly some of the prosecution witnesses have a history of golddigging, but.....it surely wasn't all made up. dan 6/13/2005, 5:06 PM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> So Michael walked. DM> But then, he doesn't walk like other people. DM> I am neither surprised nor not surprised. Just DM> didn't make a judgement and didn't have an DM> opinion. DM> - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 18:56:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DNuEee002015 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBA28B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:48:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:48:25 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DNmOts013022 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:48:25 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B62771A980460 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:48:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Moonwalk? Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:48:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > 6/13/2005, 5:06 PM, Doris Markland wrote: > > DM> So Michael walked. > > DM> But then, he doesn't walk like other people. > > DM> I am neither surprised nor not surprised. Just > DM> didn't make a judgement and didn't have an > DM> opinion. > > DM> - D. M. Will be interesting to hear all the TV chatter on this. But then, maybe not. Ad infititum . . - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 18:56:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j590B9ef002006 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBA2BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:47:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:47:05 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DNl5bo012913 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:47:05 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 12D8F175A7736 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:47:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c57072$2e5c7100$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <6.2.1.2.0.20050613191324.01c08d78@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Moonwalk? Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:46:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Moonwalk? > At 07:06 PM 6/13/2005, Doris Markland wrote: >>So Michael walked. >> >>But then, he doesn't walk like other people. >> >>I am neither surprised nor not surprised. Just >>didn't make a judgement and didn't have an >>opinion. > > In these days of global warming, the Iraq quagmire, a shaky economy, and > the continuing revelations of sexual abuse by Roman Catholic clergy, > whatever this one freaked-out rocker did or didn't do pales into > insignificance. > > Oh well, it did put Paris HIlton on the back pages for a while. > > cwv All of the above. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 18:56:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DNuEee002000 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBA280@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:46:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:46:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DNkBZg012744 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:46:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so595828nzo for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.113.9 with SMTP id l9mr1031250nzc; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:46:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kb1z7a65o0KWWSxNROb8ybGkBhlDhGHXh0tcByD18vEJQ4c8O2SrMutZXlTX2cHsMjfUAT3OZR45efWO2VYA0oae+kl7YaHfXFGwVCPc6iihzhMU5mXcxNyzYgWbOgf32Rfy6PgliEJF2C+rMrEoKzQZsnRxPf3n1uhj1JvIhVg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506131646396ace8a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:46:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050613191324.01c08d78@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <6.2.1.2.0.20050613191324.01c08d78@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DNkCZg012745 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Oh well, it did put Paris HIlton on the back pages for a while. She made headlines today: she's planning to retire in two years. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 18:56:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DNuEee002013 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBA30B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:55:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:55:21 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DNtKjl013844 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:55:21 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 22974320 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:55:37 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:55:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:55:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80878, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 5:48 PM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> Will be interesting to hear all the TV chatter DM> on this. But then, maybe not. Ad infititum . . Nope. Ad nauseam..... We're avoiding the news so we don't puke. I heard it in car and sat outside the dry cleaners to hear them all read. Walked into the dry cleaners and they had the TV on were making very critical comments about the decision. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 18:56:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5DNuEee002014 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBA28E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:49:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:49:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DNnD5q013065 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:49:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so796687nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.10 with SMTP id t10mr2784845nzt; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:49:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Llp2tpF/Vix6H3D8g+InCPIk6xnwPLWWm837m7mfWTF0gSdH4KUi2+YBigb0f+fPFmm/WMfIo4KRAsfzibEzJqG1ZnjV0v+qDt9rOaZCD/GRPiwepefBD2sRaonltN2pczRXkkftuDwoEZB4NAd/HqSY4SQqBmXDEcjL723gIKY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061316493e42bca8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:49:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <1622357469.20050613174025@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <389239788.20050613132858@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613123272721625@mail.gmail.com> <22632681.20050613134706@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613130850b0e68f@mail.gmail.com> <685571473.20050613141538@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613132046123613@mail.gmail.com> <1622357469.20050613174025@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5DNnD5q013066 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > thanks for the info on what it is like there. i understand your > frustration, but sure don't have an answer, legal or otherwise. There isn't one. They are firmly planted there. I curse them when I drive by, but that's the extent of it. I haven't seen one gecko this year--I suspect Nanook chased them all away. Or ate them. He hasn't gotten all the lightning bugs because they move too fast and too high. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:04:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E04Aee002933 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:04:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:04:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBA318@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:04:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3089118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:04:09 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E049qs014983 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:04:09 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005061400040801100dkd0ge>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:04:08 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: access to words-l archives at UGA Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:06:01 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200506130235.j5D2Z7V2004794@math.umb.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I thought I had asked Adam to change my subscription from cs.umb.edu to > math.umb.edu a long way back (after I could no longer send mail from > cs.umb.edu) ... I haven't been able to send mail from cs.umb.edu for > a good number of years ... OK, I'll change it right now. You'll be notified by LISTSERV. > So I agree it is I who was wrong about accessing the UGA archives. But > then why am I able to post to the list from math.umb.edu? I thought you > could only post from an address from which you were subscribed. No, it's an open list. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:13:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E0DZee003839 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:13:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:13:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBA2F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:13:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3089330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:13:35 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E0DYnK015842 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:13:34 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005061400132901600fa873e>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:13:29 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: New deck and siding Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:15:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > As requested by the List Honey, I have put up an album with > pictures of the > new deck and siding. I threw in other pictures of Halloween, black fly > season, and the house in a winter snow storm. > http://community.webshots.com/album/368362458EfbmlA Thanks. Nice pictures. Is the deck stairway changed? I remember it being somehow more treacherous. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:22:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E0MLee004932 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:22:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:22:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBA35D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:22:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3089525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:22:21 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E0MKTA016737 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:22:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so69857wri for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.30.40 with SMTP id d40mr2865915wrd; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:22:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EHP9BBPDVYJxtvSA64IynXazNzRFJn4KXhLM4da+KZRbVONPLVVlLqkPdIoNgVWf9OFtdD1GpkbCZzXp0D//e7Wvy6wHdgi4qN0uCqhGI0Fh42xWA8yQAesacfB/OZt6LWc9DDf535aoNHmNZDn8lL7dzi/W68R9ZyALzl3YsUc= Message-ID: <83db447a0506131722211247c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:22:20 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New deck and siding In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5E0MLee004932 On 6/13/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > Thanks. Nice pictures. Is the deck stairway changed? I remember it being > somehow more treacherous. They may have tweaked it a bit, but not much---it's still a fairly steep rise with narrow treads. As far as I can tell, they stayed within the footprint of the original. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:26:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E0QFee005337 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:26:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:26:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBA321@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:26:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3089693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:26:15 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E0QEiD017310 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:26:14 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005061400261301400e61qoe>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:26:13 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: New deck and siding Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:28:05 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506131722211247c7@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > They may have tweaked it a bit, but not much---it's still a fairly steep > rise with narrow treads. As far as I can tell, they stayed within the > footprint of the original. > cwv Ah. It was the narrow treads I was half-remembering. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 19:37:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E0axee006228 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:37:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:37:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBA385@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:36:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3090034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:36:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E0awOT018382 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:36:58 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so73822wri for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.48 with SMTP id e48mr2861398wre; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:36:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=FfcAaX+Lez9xPdEXqrdaA/4rK/is6ctteeLhcxFdotN2nx9Ye3zNxOpDrERcxORtlRjkVkSuD9mm8Pid5ZUErtQy8ES5Ox0B9n963pQgr+NxZRf4xITwZ6gtfvU23D+ZkDcoz6tZ2Trw5g3dBThFEs9Y6h0vvaDBqGAR0NgHPbs= Message-ID: <83db447a050613173663b4b5c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:36:58 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: another evening Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5E0axee006228 Not much color in the sky. It is overcast---the remnants, I guess, of the brief thundershower that we had mid-afternoon. Still very warm (for here) and we have yet to feel the sea breeze.. It is blackfly season here. They don't seem as bad as some other years; perhaps the cold and heavy rains suppressed their development and flushed them downstream. What blackflies there are are targets for the newly-emerged dragonflies, who stay very busy. So I sit on the deck and root on the wily orthopterans. The first hummingbird of the season visited tonight--a brief hover only. She is probably casing the neighborhood. At any rate, I'm glad I put the feeder up when I did. The good news is that Jim (Grandpa) Parsons is home. Apparently, they tried twice to install a stent but gave up owing to the risk of perforating the artery. So, according to his son-in-law Dave, he is on medication---whether this is to set him up for another try with the stent or to dissolve the blockage, I don't know. At any rate, he is home, and although I haven't talked to him yet, he seems pretty much the same. Dave says it's hard to tell that anything was wrong. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:18:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E1I9ee009388 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:18:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:18:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067BBED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:18:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:18:02 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E1I2GN022600 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:18:02 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.98]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614011801.EIBO10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:18:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.98]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614011801.BMPQ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:18:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:17:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >http://www.noahs.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/dogtoworkday.main > > This picture is obscene! http://www.noahs.com/Resources/Images/TakeYourDogBanner.gif -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:26:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E1QRee009995 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:26:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:26:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBA42F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:19:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:19:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E1JAI5022726 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:19:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so463939wri for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.27.40 with SMTP id a40mr3174182wra; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:19:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m3WLGLn88WgJk/nuMJDeturzMaZaUsJV+Fb+52ky4twTz2bL2kXoTrFfduk1se3bild8FfJP8VQr6TBTNn+rs0HYZB+V2z+ymnUDFVW+W77J/Q8YnSiaPirtEUxJAIoT0qpFzaGWJTqkV9u9G35jHsnt7slI7x42PW0XnEa3ajA= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:19:10 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New deck and siding In-Reply-To: <42AE2FE6.6030105@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AE2FE6.6030105@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5E1QRee009995 > > Looks good! But the color looks lighter than voigtlander green. Is it > lighter? -- Natalie It might be a bit lighter. It very much depends on whether the sun is shining directly on it or not. Plus it doesn't seem to have the depth of color as the red cedar siding stain. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:26:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E1QRee009994 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:26:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:26:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBA426@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:16:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:16:27 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E1GQJD022445 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:16:26 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.98]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614011626.EHEY10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:16:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.98]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614011626.BMEQ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:16:26 -0400 Message-ID: <42AE2FE6.6030105@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:16:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New deck and siding References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >As requested by the List Honey, I have put up an album with pictures of the >new deck and siding. I threw in other pictures of Halloween, black fly >season, and the house in a winter snow storm. > http://community.webshots.com/album/368362458EfbmlA > > Looks good! But the color looks lighter than voigtlander green. Is it lighter? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:45:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E1jjee012660 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:45:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:45:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067BC04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:34:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:34:03 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E1Y3wa024052 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:34:03 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.98]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614013403.EQOS10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:34:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.98]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614013403.BRKQ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:34:03 -0400 Message-ID: <42AE3407.7000802@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:33:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <42ADDAE9.80504@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42ADDAE9.80504@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, Pete! This is obviously a keeper (and a re-reader when I have more time -- am rushing now). I didn't even know there was an image size to be set on the camera. All I know about is the resolution settings, which I thought I had set to the top one -- I moved it up from M2 to whatever was higher than M2. I think it said S, which I guessed must mean "super" -- since below M2 are M1 and then L. > 2. The shutter speed was 1/8th of a second. The aperture was set to 2.7 I've never heard of shutter speed. Will explore. Am kind of swamped this week and may be somewhat swamped next week. But surely life get calmer at some point. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:45:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E1jjee012658 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:45:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:45:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067BBF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:25:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:25:45 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E1Piq8023315 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:25:44 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.98]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614012544.EMDF10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:25:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.98]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614012544.BOUZ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:25:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42AE3214.3000608@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:25:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> The camera has a jpg setting?? I thought that kind of decision was made >NM> later, on the computer. > >Well, most cameras give you a choice between saving it as a RAW image >(sort of like a BMP, I believe, with every blessed pixel and thus as >many megabytes, roughly, as the camera will do pixels). Or they save >them as jpg, which is what most choose, since on my 3.1 MP camera (now > > I haven't had time to look at the manual again. I should explore that. I don't think my old camera offers such a choice, but maybe the new one does. (The new one also has that P think Pete mentioned -- the auto on/off.) >I'm interested enough that if you tell me exact model I'll look up the >manual on the web....assuming Canon puts them there just like Olympus >and others do. > > The model is Canon PowerShot S2 IS. I haven't had time yet to deal with the pictures I took today except to put ones of the cemetery and gate on Find-a-Grave. Once again the gate picture I took with the old camera is better than the one with the new camera (taken from exactly the same position -- I didn't move a toe -- I just switched cameras). The one with the new camera wasn't terrible -- just ever-so-slightly less pleasing than the one taken with the old camera. Ditto the shots of the cemetery -- as in shots from outside the gate showing a bunch of tombstones, as opposed to pictures of individual graves. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 20:52:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E1qNee013604 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:52:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:52:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBA498@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:52:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3092377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:52:22 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E1qLKm025938 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:52:21 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.98]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614015221.EGMN16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:52:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.98]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614015220.NFGD5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:52:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:52:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Kristin References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Good! Was it very silly to send cash? I understood at first as if Espen > was going to send cash as well. So I decided to do so, although I've > never done it before (I thought it was a thing nobody ever did.) You always hear about how one shouldn't do it, but I think the risk is very small. Most mail does reach its destination. And unless you had stuck in in a transparent envelope, no potential thief along the way would have the slightest idea that money was in it. (I'll write a check for you when I send the money to the library -- will do it the way Pete did the PayPal ones -- will write it with your name on the memo line.) Speaking of sending the money to the library, I was thinking today that sending it before leaving for FingerFest might be a good thing to do. I could then send clo's check later. What do y'all think? > At least you saw my 7s! I do not remember whether I crossed them (it?) > or no. Usually I do, but sometimes when trying to write "beautifully" I > don't. But my 1s are always hooked, I guess. Crossed 7 but non-hooked 1. I just pulled out the envelope and double-checked it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 21:09:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E295ee015255 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:09:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:09:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBA481@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:59:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3092654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:59:05 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E1x31r026635 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:59:03 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5E1x29D031297 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:59:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:59:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: An unusual Ebay political item In-Reply-To: <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU See item number 5588268268 at Ebay.com. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 21:09:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E295ee015256 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:09:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:09:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBA4CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:01:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3092780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:01:38 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E21bY0026886 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:01:37 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.98]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614020137.FFKL10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:01:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.98]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614020136.BZTE25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:01:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:01:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > We're avoiding the news so we don't puke. I heard it in car and > sat outside the dry cleaners to hear them all read. Walked into > the dry cleaners and they had the TV on were making very critical > comments about the decision. > > I heard it on the car radio on my way home this afternoon but had no particular opinion. I've of course been aware of the story but haven't followed it. That's the nice thing about reading news online. Although one can also read selectively in paper copies, I realize, I find it even easier in online newspapers -- I just don't click on headlines that have to do with pop stars or such because I have very little interest in them or their lives or their trials. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 21:17:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E2HWee016367 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:17:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:17:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBA543@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:17:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:17:32 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E2HWsH029085 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:17:32 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so896564rnf for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.57 with SMTP id n57mr977744rna; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:14:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XXFUH4Kq0EMJunhjuCUgvnS5X32PoDEg9a4DXhcsFS/oR53PZaqNOMnJSfdby1LAKjce03EEz2RzOk9xZUooyT0DCLuskKRreCYZleuXM2WEiye0GOGMO2SRUnSBQ/7SSTGOsQVWSV60tHWK3qKkwzbyexmN3GZkApeztWK3JXs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:14:56 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Kristin In-Reply-To: <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5E2HWsH029086 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Speaking of sending the money to the library, I was thinking today that > sending it before leaving for FingerFest might be a good thing to do. I > could then send clo's check later. What do y'all think? In passing, I hope you can make it clear to the library that I (and probably some others) certainly don't want the library spending time and money on sending me a thank you or tax receipt or the like, or putting me on their newsletter list. That sort of thing could easily eat up most of my small contribution, and I'd rather it go toward something useful there. Of course some people may well want tax receipts - I'm not arguing against that, but I can't use a US one, and wouldn't expect it for a small donation in any case. I have previously sent money to various Good Causes, and had them then spend probably all I sent them and more on followup newsletters, updates, thank yous, etc. followed by fundraising junk mail. I realize that a library is much less likely to do that than some other organizations, but still, if you could make it clear... Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 21:20:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E2KHee016613 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:20:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:20:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBA55B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:20:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:20:17 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E2KGtD029326 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:20:16 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050614022010014002ehvse>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 02:20:10 +0000 Message-ID: <42AE3ED9.6040102@istori.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:20:09 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <42ADDAE9.80504@istori.com> <42AE3407.7000802@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AE3407.7000802@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > All I know about is the resolution > settings, which I thought I had set to the top one -- I moved it up from > M2 to whatever was higher than M2. I think it said S, which I guessed > must mean "super" -- since below M2 are M1 and then L. Resolution == image size. "S" is small. Here are the settings: L 2592 x 1944, 5mp M1 2048 x 1536, 3mp M2 1600 x 1200, 2mp S 640 x 480, 0.3mp See page 38 of the manual for more details (and also the settings for compression). > I've never heard of shutter speed. Will explore. The camera sets it automatically, unless you have it in a manual mode. So you don't have to worry about it unless the scene is too dark or too light. After reviewing your manual, I think I may have found the problem. My S1 automatically pops the flash unit up when it senses the need to use the flash. Looking at page 40, it seems that on the S2 you have to raise the flash manually, or it won't be used, even if it needed to be. The camera will display a red "no flash" icon in the viewfinder if you need flash but haven't raised it. (I'll defer the discussion of why the flash is a pop-up and whether it should pop up automatically or not.) > But surely life get calmer at some point. Here's hoping! But not too calm, either. :-) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 21:20:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E2Kdee016665 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:20:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:20:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBA55D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:20:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:20:39 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E2Kd13029442 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:20:39 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.98]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614022039.TWKR22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:20:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.98]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614022038.QNTT13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:20:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:20:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Question for the Franzens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (Anybody else who knows the answer can also play.) What district/region/whatever of Sweden is Lena in? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 21:28:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E2S1ee017376 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:28:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:28:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBA579@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:28:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3094041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:28:01 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E2S1O3030381 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:28:01 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.98]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614022801.UBDC22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:28:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.98]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614022800.QQHL13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:28:00 -0400 Message-ID: <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:27:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >In passing, I hope you can make it clear to the library that I (and >probably some others) certainly don't want the library spending time >and money on sending me a thank you or tax receipt or the like, or >putting me on their newsletter list. > That's something I was going to ask about again -- I think I mentioned it briefly earlier. I want to know whether y'all think it should just say "from Words-L" -- with no names listed. The names are on the individual checks, of course, but I could tell the library in the accompanying note that the individuals who wrote those checks do not want acknowledgements. I would of course give my address so that we'd have some kind of general acknowledgement to make sure it arrived safely. Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? >I have previously sent money to various Good Causes, and had them then >spend probably all I sent them and more on followup newsletters, >updates, thank yous, etc. followed by fundraising junk mail. I realize >that a library is much less likely to do that than some other >organizations, but still, if you could make it clear... > > I know exactly what you mean. I have still not managed to extricate myself from some mailing lists of that kind because of small contributions I sent as memorials for dead people. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 21:38:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E2cLee018112 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:38:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:38:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067BCCC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:38:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3094393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:38:19 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E2cIfK031490; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:38:18 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 111722300; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:38:18 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050613193915.02887440@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:39:29 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] In-Reply-To: <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:27 PM 6/13/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Tony Harminc wrote: > >>In passing, I hope you can make it clear to the library that I (and >>probably some others) certainly don't want the library spending time >>and money on sending me a thank you or tax receipt or the like, or >>putting me on their newsletter list. >That's something I was going to ask about again -- I think I mentioned >it briefly earlier. I want to know whether y'all think it should just >say "from Words-L" -- with no names listed. The names are on the >individual checks, of course, but I could tell the library in the >accompanying note that the individuals who wrote those checks do not >want acknowledgements. I would of course give my address so that we'd >have some kind of general acknowledgement to make sure it arrived safely. > >Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? No thank you. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 22:47:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E3l3ee024981 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:47:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:47:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067BF4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:37:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3100568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:37:01 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E3b05U007657 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:37:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E0F2B7C8 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:36:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:27 PM -0700 6/13/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >That's something I was going to ask about again -- I think I mentioned >it briefly earlier. I want to know whether y'all think it should just >say "from Words-L" -- with no names listed. The names are on the >individual checks, of course, but I could tell the library in the >accompanying note that the individuals who wrote those checks do not >want acknowledgements. I would of course give my address so that we'd >have some kind of general acknowledgement to make sure it arrived safely. > >Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? My sentiments are exactly the same as Tony's. I do not need or want a personal receipt and I'd just as soon not wind up on a mailing list. (Which I probably wouldn't anyway, as the address on my checks will soon be three years and three moves out of date.) The "from Words-L" option is fine with me, although part of me wants it to say "From the Meebers of Words-L". Ken Miller Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 22:47:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E3l3ee024983 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:47:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:47:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067BF55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:42:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3100641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:42:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E3fx9I008045 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:42:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so891487nzp for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.20 with SMTP id t20mr3037476nzt; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:41:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jCtM5T71/dW0Rluc6qLWRNEfj8cJhLKBZ4s5W4LmH0yWGzEC21AOkeZIbzfXXdYE8mkNuuTz0zleu+rvpT2GgPnQafjjhT6BDSRHZBLnQa1rabuARUPXgDH05lNSdp4JhP4UcefZRAn+Va1C1z2f/xuVsYCJqw2ozxMpwjK4Qis= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050613204163840701@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:41:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5E3g09I008046 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You are, as usual, mutant. On 6/13/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >http://www.noahs.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/dogtoworkday.main > > > > > This picture is obscene! > > http://www.noahs.com/Resources/Images/TakeYourDogBanner.gif > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 23:39:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E4dHee030920 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:39:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:39:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBAA32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 0:37:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3104671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:37:21 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E4bKRp015576 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:37:21 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22754122 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:00:04 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:37:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:37:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <143363162.20050613223719@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42AE3ED9.6040102@istori.com> References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <42ADDAE9.80504@istori.com> <42AE3407.7000802@maynor.net> <42AE3ED9.6040102@istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81969, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 8:20 PM, Peter Kaminski wrote: PK> L 2592 x 1944, 5mp PK> M1 2048 x 1536, 3mp My semi-antique Olympus (four years) is exactly the same as the m1 on this one. But mine never flashes as unless I pop it up....and then does flash as needed. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 23:39:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E4dHee030916 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:39:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:39:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBAA66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 0:29:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3104428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:29:16 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E4TGO2014832 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:29:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23001158 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:29:34 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:29:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:29:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1463436923.20050613222914@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80978, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 7:17 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> This picture is obscene! NM> http://www.noahs.com/Resources/Images/TakeYourDogBanner.gif By whose standards and for what possible reason? Looks like a basic bagel dog that you'd buy at costco or somewhere. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 13 23:39:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E4dHee030919 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:39:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:39:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBAA62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 0:34:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3104556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:34:54 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E4YrPJ015305 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:34:53 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22933073 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:44:04 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:35:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:34:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=94869, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/13/2005, 8:01 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I just don't click on NM> headlines that have NM> to do with pop stars or such because I have very NM> little interest in them NM> or their lives or their trials. I don't give a shit about him, just the kids he fucked with, and all the idiots that run around cheering for him like he's some great hero. Damn, people are stupid.....not like we didn't know that. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:38:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E8cqee025946 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:38:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:38:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067C2D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 4:38:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3112288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:38:51 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E8cp3m001778 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:38:51 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so205319wri for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.2 with SMTP id o2mr3065031wrc; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:38:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DodWOVvo1OlvsXELNKaLP7EdTIqN6uToYqQVcRx+XN3qn8wqimFR6xdzpwi/4KIeCztlArgLzRgGsbSdTzopmYDhwnABRWbYADU9bPfCNVT/ZFxWmnGAe/hZ8EIf2r5lQdLImI0MlfUxKYLHvYLqIGfNVlDtBuo2Ps0xB/hgPrk= Message-ID: <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:38:50 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for the Franzens In-Reply-To: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5E8cp3m001779 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > (Anybody else who knows the answer can also play.) What > district/region/whatever of Sweden is Lena in? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Well, I could find now town or city call Lena in Sweden. However, there are two parishes (in the church meaning, not county) that have or have had the name Lena. The one was in Skara diocese in the region of Västergötland. The other parish, which still exists, is in Uppsala diocese in the region of Uppland. Why? Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 03:59:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5E8xhee028466 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:59:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:59:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBAE74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 4:59:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3113480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:59:30 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E8xT23003616 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:59:29 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so210646wri for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.36.8 with SMTP id j8mr1429391wrj; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:59:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RtTvCl75eWenks+BDzuR05iI15ycfdLM1eWh0FnnEmKSpIq7WaZPWTfQPlHWY+RTVjL6N2e03Nx+Z8/yxp70MdxFSqkat4amU1wYm0cJbMgucgs8IhtCS7iIghD5DdvQklNbsbq+4RDwP04nv0cB2DIMW5+9U+c+uNckyGN0JRw= Message-ID: <8865866a050614015931233ee4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:59:29 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cotswold Way 1 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a050612014771c99f86@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5E8xT23003617 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > Have they somehow fixed the sliminess, and stopped people slipping and > cracking their heads? I thought it smelled faintly of chlorine and I saw no sliminess so... yes. > > Dinner was at a nice pub in Chipping Campden and both Dan and I ate > > vegetarian sausages with chips and a Carling (British beer). > > I think you'll find Carling is about as British as Coors Lite. > > Tony H. Well, that pub had no local beer, lagers, ales...nothing! So they recommended Carlings and said it was British. If my information is incorrect, I apologize. I believed them. We had much better luck getting local treats along the trail! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 05:09:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EA9cee008989 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:09:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:09:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067C679@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 6:09:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3121663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:09:34 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EA9XYl010516 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:09:33 -0400 Received: from [141.149.175.253] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 101855455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:09:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42AEACE4.3030808@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:09:40 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? > Not I, thank you. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 05:14:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EAEPee009538 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:14:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:14:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBB3DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 6:14:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:14:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EAEOhF010918 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:14:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so228959wri for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.144.9 with SMTP id r9mr3103697wrd; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Yw0SZ/DSXpKZ3Z2m25BFWuhVpVr/zsbjaW7l2uZTZLbw6bJAscJrZFFT3AhEWf+mfU1UgoGRy2Uj/llFG8cet/N5Q1x5l3/V481AGq2I74i6AhGCBQ2nZxNHhOEmZHHo+gP7GJ7U9kY1nceyP2S7aWsEfr9tzsVBFyqQy3H03iU= Message-ID: <8865866a050614031425c2a542@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:24 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] In-Reply-To: <42AEACE4.3030808@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> <42AEACE4.3030808@bc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EAEOhF010919 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? No thanks. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 06:35:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EBZVee021441 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:35:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:35:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBB79A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 7:35:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3128721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:35:30 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EBZUPp007782 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:35:30 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.234]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614113530.NKQD2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:35:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.234]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614113530.ANQ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:35:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:35:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for the Franzens References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >Well, I could find now town or city call Lena in Sweden. However, >there are two parishes (in the church meaning, not county) that have >or have had the name Lena. The one was in Skara diocese in the region >of Västergötland. The other parish, which still exists, is in Uppsala >diocese in the region of Uppland. Why? > > Thanks! This explains why my googling for it wasn't going well -- which is when I stopped and realized that IMFTAOTL anyway. It was about a tombstone -- a man whose stone said that he was born in "Lena, Sweden." This was mid nineteenth century, I think -- can't remember the exact date now. To include a birth or death place on Find-a-Grave, you choose the country from a menu and then a county/district/region/whatever from the next menu, and then the city. Iow, you can't just fill in city and country. But you can stop with just the country, which is what I did for this man and is how I'll leave it. It may be that he was born in one of those parishes named Lena, or it may be that whoever had the tombstone made was confused and that it was really some other town name. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 06:43:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EBh4ee022576 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:43:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:43:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067CA8E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 7:43:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3129147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:43:04 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EBh4hF008479 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:43:04 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.234]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614114303.NNOW2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:43:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.234]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614114303.CIC8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:43:03 -0400 Message-ID: <42AEC2C3.2010007@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:42:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cotswold Way 1 References: <8865866a050612014771c99f86@mail.gmail.com> <8865866a050614015931233ee4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a050614015931233ee4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >Well, that pub had no local beer, lagers, ales...nothing! So they >recommended Carlings and said it was British. If my information is > > I have fond memories of Carlings Black Label because that's what I drank when I taught myself to drink beer. I had tasted beer before and hated it. But the summer when I was teaching skiing on Lake George (NY) it became convenient to drink beer since groups of us would go across the lake to Hague on nights off and order pitchers of beer. Actually, I don't remember now that those pitchers were Carlings-related. What I remember is that the pitcher-ordering was the reason I decided that I needed to cultivate a taste for beer but that part of how I did that was by drinking Carlings back at the camp (at night -- not while ). And, of course, I remember the ads from childhood -- the ones calling Mabel. (But I didn't know then nor do I know now where it is/was brewed.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 06:44:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EBiLee022769 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:44:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:44:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBB7F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 7:44:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3129253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:44:21 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EBiK3i008608 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:44:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A7899456 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:44:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17787-06 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:44:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D5399323 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:34:42 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42AEC0B1.6010107@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:34:09 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Kristin References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.52 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > You always hear about how one shouldn't do it, but I think the risk is > very small. Most mail does reach its destination. And unless you had > stuck in in a transparent envelope, no potential thief along the way > would have the slightest idea that money was in it. My bubbled envelope might even be an exaggeration. Like a special security door that may make one think there must be something precious behind it. > (I'll write a check > for you when I send the money to the library -- will do it the way Pete > did the PayPal ones -- will write it with your name on the memo line.) Thank you. In general, I'm not against (rather _for_ it) if the donation is collective, just from Words_L. But if it has been decided the names will be there I'm not going to ask in panic for concealing mine. >> or no. Usually I do, but sometimes when trying to write "beautifully" I >> don't. But my 1s are always hooked, I guess. > > At least you saw my 7s! I do not remember whether I crossed them (it?) > > Crossed 7 but non-hooked 1. I just pulled out the envelope and > double-checked it. Re-ea-a-a-lly?! Somebody must have erased the hook. Now, you see how difficult it is to write without smilies. I try to do without them sometimes. This message of mine would need at least two. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 06:50:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EBoKee023654 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:50:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:50:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBB7CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 7:50:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3129562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:50:20 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EBoJ25009229 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:50:20 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 94772639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:49:37 -0400 Message-ID: <42AEC477.5030709@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:50:15 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cotswold Way 1 References: <8865866a050612014771c99f86@mail.gmail.com> <8865866a050614015931233ee4@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC2C3.2010007@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AEC2C3.2010007@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I have fond memories of Carlings Black Label because that's what I drank > when I taught myself to drink beer. "Brewed on the shores of Lake Cochituate" in Natick, MA. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 07:10:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EC9tee026300 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:09:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:10:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067CC16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 8:09:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3130102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:09:54 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EBxriO010252 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:59:53 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5EBxVok023430 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:59:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:59:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: no receipts/no mailing lists, please Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony: I have previously sent money to various Good Causes, and had them then spend probably all I sent them and more on followup newsletters, updates, thank yous, etc. followed by fundraising junk mail. I realize that a library is much less likely to do that than some other organizations, but still, if you could make it clear... My sentiments exactly. Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 07:14:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ECDpee026798 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:13:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:14:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBB824@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 8:03:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3130205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:03:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EC3o4I010573 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:03:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so840983nzo for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.19 with SMTP id m19mr3354353nzm; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:03:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rUQLjsBHD5Hze6nfbFk9rKpwcQSsQtoVkjfJhGi844lXAbwURgarxXLZx5+HBmyOb0ubf1piKP0Vjq6gDNsmdxHFio/4i+tPKZQuc8RXmYVjZv/9v4EWfLr0bFijhzv64Thm/kjf6Eo3nFU3NC1Z96z7mvoPVqoBuE7ROjmhzOA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061405037dfd8c75@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:03:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: For Pete Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EC3o4I010574 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A special New Yorker cartoon. http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp?sid=44886 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 07:26:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ECQ3ee028458 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:26:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:26:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067CD04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 8:26:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:26:02 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ECQ2FB012681 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:26:02 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-161.gwi.net [216.195.165.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5ECPv69052718; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:26:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050614081139.01bee9e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:19:41 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: New deck and siding In-Reply-To: References: <42AE2FE6.6030105@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:19 PM 6/13/2005, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > Looks good! But the color looks lighter than voigtlander green. Is it > > lighter? -- Natalie > > It might be a bit lighter. It very much depends on whether the sun is >shining directly on it or not. It is a bit lighter, but the closest match we could make. It is not as light as most of the photos suggest; the vinyl is more reflective than was the paint, so the images are a bit overexposed. >Plus it doesn't seem to have the depth of >color as the red cedar siding stain. Yeah, no mildew or tannin... An interesting vignette: during the installation, Bonnie overheard a woman, who was walking her dog, exclaim to the workmen what a nice color that was and could she have a small piece of scrap so that she could get paint that color. So, if she goes to Paradis's for her paint, she is likely to end up with something very similar to voigtlander (Layfayette) green. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 07:37:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ECbfee030088 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:37:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:37:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBB930@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 8:37:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:37:41 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ECbfCG014219 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:37:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4187994BC for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:37:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03461-04 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:37:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCBF99493 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:37:39 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42AECF56.5090107@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:36:38 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.521 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > That's something I was going to ask about again -- I think I mentioned > it briefly earlier. I want to know whether y'all think it should just > say "from Words-L" -- with no names listed. Yes. > Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? No, no need for that. Thanks. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 07:40:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ECeWee030411 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:40:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:40:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBB950@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 8:40:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3132152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:40:32 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ECeW6U014809 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:40:32 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-161.gwi.net [216.195.165.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5ECeNnx054551; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:40:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050614083259.01bdc880@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:34:18 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <143363162.20050613223719@gailndan.com> References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <42ADDAE9.80504@istori.com> <42AE3407.7000802@maynor.net> <42AE3ED9.6040102@istori.com> <143363162.20050613223719@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:37 AM 6/14/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >6/13/2005, 8:20 PM, Peter Kaminski wrote: > >PK> L 2592 x 1944, 5mp >PK> M1 2048 x 1536, 3mp > >My semi-antique Olympus (four years) is exactly the same as the m1 on >this one. But mine never flashes as unless I pop it up....and then >does flash as needed. Of the 12 modes available to me, I think only two provide an automatic pop-up. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 07:40:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ECeXee030417 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:40:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:40:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067CCA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 8:40:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3132159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:40:33 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ECeXQ1014822 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:40:33 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-161.gwi.net [216.195.165.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5ECeNo0054551 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:40:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050614083625.01bdfed8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:40:16 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: this is more like it... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yesterday morning at this time it was 81 F, today it is 54, foggy and a bit drizzly. Looks like we will have rain (they mutter about rain and showers) most of the week. By the time the grass dries enough to be cut (I couldn't cut it during all of the construction activity), I may need a scythe. And there goes the street cleaner... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:07:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ED7dee001343 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:07:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:07:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBB99D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 8:54:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3132838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:54:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ECsXcu016727 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:54:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so96394wri for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.42.67 with SMTP id p67mr3455572wrp; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:54:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Js2RZMstDYaiN7Tk5bYxx8rWw5PqIivHRZPb2KxNEQoevS6l+EZFjt1rxQAsMc2Vmc+BPHxi2WarEOzPPIEyAdUBIp8YM0bg5Zx7o9KgvdYOUUaSm5OePp57aiXU5cw7UZgyZWXW7+3uyoutNHgdWw845+5rZHemO/d3nGC9vNU= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050614055438dc344e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:54:31 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] In-Reply-To: <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5ECsXcu016728 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/13/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > No receipt, thank you. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:07:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ED7dee001344 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:07:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:07:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBB998@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 9:03:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3133439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:03:01 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ED30Er017907 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:03:00 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142AA9957E for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:03:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12590-02 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:02:59 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FA4995A1 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:02:59 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:01:25 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Before the page may fade away Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.522 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Reading Brad's home page: What does 'Lansakes' mean? When googling for the whole phrase I only got a page with WSBurroughs' novel in addition where Lansakes occur. So, also, where is the phrase under Brad/Elvis's picture from? (Have I missed it in the Words-l post, I wonder?) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:07:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ED7dee001342 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:07:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:07:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBB978@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 8:47:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3132450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:47:35 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EClZrI015478 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:47:35 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112807719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:47:34 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:48:57 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:34 PM 6/13/2005, you wrote: >6/13/2005, 8:01 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> I just don't click on >NM> headlines that have >NM> to do with pop stars or such because I have very >NM> little interest in them >NM> or their lives or their trials. > >I don't give a shit about him, just the kids he fucked with, and all >the idiots that run around cheering for him like he's some great hero. >Damn, people are stupid.....not like we didn't know that. > >dan Some parents aren't too smart either. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:41:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EDfEee005481 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:41:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:41:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBBBA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 9:41:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3137304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:41:14 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EDf8QX024692 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:41:08 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so292263wri for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.86.2 with SMTP id j2mr3196750wrb; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:41:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KH7LyWLcHdQbjLrIvlFtHu4J67g1KhgMekc2SZa+JKf1VWDVVu1eVweA8lBgMyI7+0ZuIq9WGNRUD+V19Vf+VmEl56sq9/ZeKwQUG0fFgr8JcpVaDZv03yte7fudsySAr96h/CMdTV4+GWjaQcv6vIpjfVYcfJOUY9buZ3gxk9s= Message-ID: <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:41:07 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: An unusual Ebay political item In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5EDfEee005481 On 6/13/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > See item number 5588268268 at Ebay.com . The start of a trend? Perhaps someday Bill Frist, instead of selling himself privately to Wyeth and Pfizer, can do it on eBay. Think of what Tom DeLay could bring... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 08:50:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EDoNee006677 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:50:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:50:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067CE0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 9:50:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3138954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:50:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EDoMLF026514 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:50:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so896019nzo for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.15 with SMTP id t15mr2671870nzg; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.13 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:50:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TzrOILWVevJDwuoBuGp5oUJqq9P+9TyVCiu3eAvda39kPeTO81wRvISPeJ+eDkS/1rJX1Zhd3g+C3Alb2V0BGd4jvyf4DRRqTUCncFA5fWpClXNZ1SaoAo0BXeypSa+EthTkot5vet0Vnl/sg4qsYr+TSmZ5mM3cyAG3iv08fPg= Message-ID: <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:50:21 -0700 From: Larry Clark Reply-To: Larry Clark To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before the page may fade away In-Reply-To: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5EDoNee006677 On 6/14/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: Reading Brad's home page: What does 'Lansakes' mean? > >From the Phrase Finder: : "Land sakes" or "land sakes alive" doesn't have a meaning in the conventional sense; it's just an exclamation of surprise. It may be a minced oath (a softened form of swearing), a substitute for "For the Lord's sake." In the rural southeast US it was very common, as Berg states, as a minced oath (a softened form of swearing), a substitute for "For the Lord's sake." Often "lands sakes" or "lands sakes alive". The only people I've known to use this expression were from the midwest. Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:10:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EEAMee008858 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:10:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:10:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBBDF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:10:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:10:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EEAJiR030006 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:10:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so908648nzo for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.71 with SMTP id w71mr842426nzg; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:10:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IEH1VEdLgAtHsJCD1FEki/NxlLkt5hDLAR1a7zDy4mk+17nZ2/vKyThVzfU7axyah6Oi5my6Fp63UVCtkfMBKuXx3k4lw3kG6/ZZN7oBH4fpHJ6l7qQt928S77XEnY4XnxurLJe0bgLnu2aA4VPXn7lXdA3ftvWRHIi2Gt1SEws= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506140710592db773@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:10:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: An unusual Ebay political item In-Reply-To: <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EEAKiR030011 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 6/13/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > > > See item number 5588268268 at Ebay.com . > > The start of a trend? Perhaps someday Bill Frist, instead of selling > himself privately to Wyeth and Pfizer, can do it on eBay. Think of what Tom > DeLay could bring... I learned this morning that Ebay takes 8% of all sales. Whew! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:51:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EEpWee013195 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:51:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:51:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBBF29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:37:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3144717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:37:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EEbQwC002385 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:37:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so145260nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr3438548nzb; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:37:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W/dzvkM1MOlChPZnjQ5LDiN7R+3bYd/eyB7+tqMGWFhwWhiBlZp6RJbSTUO83LH95jMKcJFUNkC3HNIRSUAJOXfIi5Upbi2Yok48o8KDjiGwroAsF3pJeZOPvj9PbzDDvG/T1fk2Icl2ewKexNAma+csPxEPncea8nRIjzJfoe4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050614073747f65af4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:37:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: An unusual Ebay political item In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506140710592db773@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EEbRwC002386 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > No, the fee structure is a lot more complicated than that. Maybe the > AVERAGE is 8%. Whatever it is, it's enough to keep Ebay in business, > while supporting all those legions of people who claim to make a living > from selling stuff on Ebay. A lot of people are leaving Ebay because they raised their rates. NPR said 8%, that's all I know. > I suspect it means that successfully selling stuff is more > difficult now than ever. That was the gist. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:51:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EEpWee013193 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:51:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:51:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBBE44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:23:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3143235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:23:41 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EENeQk032348 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:23:41 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5EENeAJ021876 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:23:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:23:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: An unusual Ebay political item In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506140710592db773@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506140710592db773@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I learned this morning that Ebay takes 8% of all sales. Whew! No, the fee structure is a lot more complicated than that. Maybe the AVERAGE is 8%. Whatever it is, it's enough to keep Ebay in business, while supporting all those legions of people who claim to make a living from selling stuff on Ebay. In Ebay's early days, there used to be bidding wars over old ragged blankets, broken keyboards, Pez dispensers, and Harlequin romances. Any random piece of junk you put up for auction would sell. But Ebay these days is a buyer's market, flooded with many duplicates of even fairly rare items. This is great for me as a collector of old books (mostly old state legislative manuals with material for Political Graveyard), but I suspect it means that successfully selling stuff is more difficult now than ever. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:51:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EEpWee013191 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:51:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:51:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBBE0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:11:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3142184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:11:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EEBUZj030269 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:11:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so54603nzk for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.10 with SMTP id s10mr3272208nzc; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:11:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H1llrgZVCM0ERXmza6WxpufdY05q2Nlvg1D7hPauurhMGCY42lngDTDzTW884swUIrSu/fd/QZ1aI4rNjhXxvf92UEipoHYQg3KHIfA88OPfdqdVeGNjdtFwqQCu+JeXvFGbudZcWyj+R1xO/BW8pYgAY0Rpj/oFkXGTcWkWhtg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050614071126a19d5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:11:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EEBUZj030271 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Some parents aren't too smart either. Like Michael Jackson's--or he wouldn't be stuck in perpetual childhood. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:56:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EEuoee013600 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:56:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:56:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBBFF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:56:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3146361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:56:50 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EEum9x004818 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:56:48 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5EEumvP015009 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:56:48 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EEuf9i013062 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:56:42 -0400 Message-ID: <07a901c570f1$469b2890$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: An unusual Ebay political item Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:56:41 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" On 6/13/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > See item number 5588268268 at Ebay.com . This guy has zero... You'd think his daughters would at least start the counter rolling... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 09:58:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EEwcee013728 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:58:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:58:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067D147@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:38:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3144787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:38:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EEcU98002511 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:38:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so74423nzk for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.10 with SMTP id s10mr3292153nzc; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:38:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ewSLmadMNOZkLZDgDkhOPzYSbfBgVJh5V0bEswJOPMCFuzZp6l/PosBfLFi8rfOeOUY4hpd2/QPUdCdbnRhPxjx0tF2hoJKpjoAudlWD0PcJ2g3uuKJ74NHBtZjwVy/DX9HnpX6N6F7KuGZ+s9KE3GiA1ohsM69wZys8qs7W/R4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061407383a2be310@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:38:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: An unusual Ebay political item In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050614073747f65af4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506140710592db773@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050614073747f65af4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EEcV98002525 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/14/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > No, the fee structure is a lot more complicated than that. Maybe the > > AVERAGE is 8%. Whatever it is, it's enough to keep Ebay in business, > > while supporting all those legions of people who claim to make a living > > from selling stuff on Ebay. > > A lot of people are leaving Ebay because they raised their rates. NPR > said 8%, that's all I know. Maybe this was for an Ebay store--the person they interviewed right after that had a store. I don't know. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:28:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFSIee017740 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:28:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:28:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC16C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:22:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:22:46 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFMjgo009905 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:22:45 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22968551 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:32:02 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:23:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:22:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <855728448.20050614092243@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: this is more like it... In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050614083625.01bdfed8@pop.gwi.net> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050614083625.01bdfed8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=95059, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 6:40 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> By the time the grass dries enough to be cut (I couldn't cwv> cut it during all of the construction activity), I may need a scythe. And cwv> there goes the street cleaner... Well, before our incessant April rains stopped I planned to call Rent-A-Goat. A friend offered to let her draft horses come over to cut things down, but having seen the size of the piles of what they leave behind I decided that a good idea at all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:28:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFSIee017742 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:28:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:28:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC1BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:27:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:27:27 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFRRxv010996 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:27:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22969275 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:36:44 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:27:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:27:25 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1506195516.20050614092725@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: An unusual Ebay political item In-Reply-To: References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506140710592db773@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=95063, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 8:23 AM, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: LK> No, the fee structure is a lot more complicated than that. Maybe the LK> AVERAGE is 8%. Whatever it is, it's enough to keep Ebay in business, LK> while supporting all those legions of people who claim to make a living LK> from selling stuff on Ebay. I have a friend/colleague who used to be an accountant at the university. His wife is a surgical nurse. They prefer north Idaho where they're from, so she took a much better offer at a hospital in Coeur d'Alene. He'd been selling lots of stuff on ebay. Now he is a house husband and does it full time, and says he clears more than he did working as an accountant for the university. I have no reason to doubt him. He probably does it sixty hours a week, but he's home with the kids, living where his wants, his wife has a great job she loves, and all is sweetness and light. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:28:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFSIee017744 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:28:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:28:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBC139@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:24:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:24:55 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFOsXQ010395 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:24:55 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22789687 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:47:42 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:25:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:24:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <961306756.20050614092453@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Before the page may fade away In-Reply-To: <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82189, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 7:50 AM, Larry Clark wrote: LC> In the rural southeast US it was very common, as Berg states, as a minced LC> oath (a softened form of swearing), a substitute for "For the Lord's sake." LC> Often "lands sakes" or "lands sakes alive". Similar in reason and construction to "darn it" or "gosh darn it" or "for the love of pete" and so forth. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:28:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFSIee017737 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:28:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:28:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBC11E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:18:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:18:18 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFIHvA009052 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:18:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22967822 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:27:34 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:18:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:18:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1884617268.20050614091815@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no receipts/no mailing lists, please In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.611000 Contains 'Dear friend'=1.6 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=95052, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 5:59 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Tony: I have previously sent money to various Good Causes, and had them BKD> then spend probably all I sent them and more on followup newsletters, BKD> updates, thank yous, etc. followed by fundraising junk mail. I realize BKD> that a library is much less likely to do that than some other BKD> organizations, but still, if you could make it clear... Well, I don't know about libraries....depends I think. We only send acknowledgments and aren't big or fancy enough to have spiffy newsletters to send out, etc. But about five years ago I sent fifty bucks to UConn Library in memory of a dear friend who died. Well, they've spent way more than that mailing me stuff since then. Fancy newsletters that compare to alumni magazines every quarter, phone calls during phone drives, etc, etc. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:28:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFSIee017743 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:28:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:28:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC174@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:23:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:23:38 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFNbWD010051 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:23:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22789488 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:46:25 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:24:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:23:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <98875351.20050614092335@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82186, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EFNbWD010053 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 6:48 AM, Betty Clark wrote: >>I don't give a shit about him, just the kids he fucked with, and all >>the idiots that run around cheering for him like he's some great hero. >>Damn, people are stupid.....not like we didn't know that. >> >>dan BC> Some parents aren't too smart either. >From what I've heard (and I've tried to avoid most of it) the five days the "mother" was on the stand were what killed the case. One juror said she was the most unlikable person she'd ever seen. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:31:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFV5ee018000 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:31:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:31:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBC19B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:31:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3150315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:31:04 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFV0BJ011671 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:31:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22969824 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:40:17 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:31:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:30:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1412207553.20050614093058@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: An unusual Ebay political item In-Reply-To: <07a901c570f1$469b2890$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> <07a901c570f1$469b2890$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=95071, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 8:56 AM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> This guy has zero... You'd think his daughters would at least start the AW> counter rolling... Here's one that we may invest in. Not just because of HER autograph (which is speculative), but also because of the others. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1228&item=5207847619&rd=1 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:38:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFcDee018877 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:38:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:38:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBC217@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:38:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3150846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:38:12 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFcCYI012944 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:38:12 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614153811.WMMF13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:38:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614153811.MHCG1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:38:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:38:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Camera Resolution Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just dug up some old prints of pictures of Brad and couldn't find the scanner software so decided to take pictures of the prints with my new camera. When I went to change the resolution, I found that these are the four choices: L, M1, M2, S. There is no H. So I set it on M2 and took the pictures. Haven't seen them yet because I forgot that I have a bunch of other pictures on the card -- haven't erased/reformatted yet. That means I've got to dump the whole bunch onto the computer again and wade down to the last ones. Anyway, I wanted to report on why I had assumed that S meant something like Super. It's the only resolution setting higher than M2. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:38:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFcHee018883 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:38:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:38:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067D22C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:38:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3150859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:38:15 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFcFuX012968 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:38:15 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C1B97208DBDB7 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:38:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000e01c570f7$099ca120$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506140710592db773@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050614073747f65af4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: An unusual Ebay political item Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:37:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On 6/14/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >> No, the fee structure is a lot more complicated than that. Maybe the >> AVERAGE is 8%. Whatever it is, it's enough to keep Ebay in business, >> while supporting all those legions of people who claim to make a living >> from selling stuff on Ebay. > > A lot of people are leaving Ebay because they raised their rates. NPR > said 8%, that's all I know. > >> I suspect it means that successfully selling stuff is more >> difficult now than ever. > > That was the gist. > > Karen My understanding is that the rates did not change for people just selling individual items now and then. They changed for people running a business through eBay. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:42:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFg2ee019215 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:42:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:42:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBC203@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:42:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3151123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:42:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFftfu013458 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:41:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so37154nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr3477374nzd; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:41:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UiXIREWfv3yTW8gi8e4sr3t6yucXPU9qPmKWHsgxovGbyJR8pUqHN+vhDrJo1ejqXOwEd8a9QL9xVsUO2qznCk7wJx334LpO23/nl4Ln300Gr1C38GLe9uVdyRdhkh0M+QkwQN7uLD3teT5emZheNTZlHEpW9y02SeZBs7f4H4E= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061408412fc89d07@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:41:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: An unusual Ebay political item In-Reply-To: <000e01c570f7$099ca120$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506140710592db773@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050614073747f65af4@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c570f7$099ca120$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EFfufu013460 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Doris Markland wrote: > My understanding is that the rates did not change for > people just selling individual items now and then. > They changed for people running a business through > eBay. Thanks for the clarification. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:43:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFhXee019378 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:43:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:43:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBC214@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:43:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3151236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:43:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFhVTx013747 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:43:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so38348nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr3484113nzb; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:43:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T2DwKBhSgW+ktw1RrAr4j3ZsI9qTkgBgJ4vwkwzvTLKARtvp8JPBZVOo2BZLjtoeUnq+qzwxgjPWrNfv1Ai/LFxfE5xFJcof4p7ObKRC9EXtiKxfzYt3BMx2eUmorS0z0er92+wUAVsBzEB/Rey6+hwwXLaSSoKfGh07FZ10Odk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061408431f81d161@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:43:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Camera Resolution In-Reply-To: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EFhVTx013753 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I just dug up some old prints of pictures of Brad and couldn't find the > scanner software so decided to take pictures of the prints with my new > camera. When I went to change the resolution, I found that these are > the four choices: L, M1, M2, S. There is no H. So I set it on M2 and > took the pictures. Haven't seen them yet because I forgot that I have a > bunch of other pictures on the card -- haven't erased/reformatted yet. > That means I've got to dump the whole bunch onto the computer again and > wade down to the last ones. Anyway, I wanted to report on why I had > assumed that S meant something like Super. It's the only resolution > setting higher than M2. When I see the letters S, M, and L, I think Small Medium and Large. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:46:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFk4ee019757 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:46:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:46:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBC26E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:46:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3151487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:46:04 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFk2kC014232 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:46:03 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-161.gwi.net [216.195.165.161]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5EFjvxs079525; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:46:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050614113019.01c0f240@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:31:20 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: no receipts/no mailing lists, please In-Reply-To: <1884617268.20050614091815@gailndan.com> References: <1884617268.20050614091815@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:18 AM 6/14/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >... But about five years ago I sent fifty >bucks to UConn Library in memory of a dear friend who died. Well, >they've spent way more than that mailing me stuff since then. Fancy >newsletters that compare to alumni magazines every quarter, phone >calls during phone drives, etc, etc... ...thus supporting the old adage that no good deed goes unpunished. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:48:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFmQee020053 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:48:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:48:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC299@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:48:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3151697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:48:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFmO0e014702 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:48:25 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so33745wra for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.27.40 with SMTP id a40mr3553384wra; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:48:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MjQ35vTFz/VgIskSztidBaNe9/Rpeb4E8vgZ6NzhOTBLcTv/4Tedv2RNY+/qYiz+AvLxI9qDALRYuFdOCmgx7DFzo5rehRfjI+jdNxjzexJyCtO7sWs5idr14gfitSk3yH4+uzjJgdX/ObXBzSaXQKm/U7wLCoDIAcEEbiTTdU0= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:48:24 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Camera Resolution In-Reply-To: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5EFmQee020053 > > I just dug up some old prints of pictures of Brad and couldn't find the > scanner software so decided to take pictures of the prints with my new > camera. When I went to change the resolution, I found that these are > the four choices: L, M1, M2, S. There is no H. So I set it on M2 and > took the pictures. Haven't seen them yet because I forgot that I have a > bunch of other pictures on the card -- haven't erased/reformatted yet. > That means I've got to dump the whole bunch onto the computer again and > wade down to the last ones. Anyway, I wanted to report on why I had > assumed that S meant something like Super. It's the only resolution > setting higher than M2. -- Natalie That doesn't really explain it. Another person would still have thought of it as Large, Medium one, Medium two, and small. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 10:50:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EFoBee020240 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:50:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:50:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBC2AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:50:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3152091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:50:10 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EFo0km015381 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:50:00 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614155000.DKXI16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:50:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614154959.NUUM11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:49:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:49:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Brad Pictures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This will be pretty slow-loading since I put all six on the same page: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Brad/ I think I'll just go on and snail-mail the prints to Stephanie in Lexington. They're good pictures, but the pictures of the pictures didn't work so well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:06:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EG6Iee021865 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:06:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:06:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBC32D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3153695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:17 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EG6HvG018443 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so353939wri for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.36.36 with SMTP id j36mr2394212wrj; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:06:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tF0GV91M1B8D1fWWY/Rc3nNjIRlSo3m50RnftT/4x5rwyEbEz8pk05XuPWbDrQU3/q67j3ub+sE29MrX65RDoahcPhVPdGYxuUEIWOQU4BiMT7vuSWt8T0HP2wVUb+Cs0HYj6blf+V0GqOCYjkr4QiETRY5/dAok4dOoNt0OkFA= Message-ID: <83db447a0506140906504ddf12@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:16 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Camera Resolution In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061408431f81d161@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061408431f81d161@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5EG6Iee021865 On 6/14/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > When I see the letters S, M, and L, I think Small Medium and Large. Not Super, Monstrous, and Leviathanesque? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:07:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EG6vee021938 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:06:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:07:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067D412@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3153821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:56 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EG6u18018576 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:56 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614160652.ENPN16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614160651.SXQH4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF0094.5050000@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:06:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Check Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just thought of a question I should ask while I'm thinking about it, though I won't have a chance to read list mail for a while -- this week is quite hectic. One Wordsler (can't remember who now -- just remember noticing it when I stuffed the check into the envelope) made the check out to me instead of to the library. If I want to send that check along with the others instead of cashing it and then writing one to replace it, isn't there some way to make it safer than just endorsing it -- as in doing something like writing my name in the usual endorsing way but followed by something like "to the Lee County Library" or "for the Lee County Library"? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:14:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EGE4ee022606 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:14:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:14:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC408@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3154735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:04 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EGE3LQ019766 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:03 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22977522 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:23:20 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:14:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:14:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <334694249.20050614101401@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Camera Resolution In-Reply-To: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> References: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=95114, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 9:38 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Anyway, I wanted to report on why I had NM> assumed that S meant something like Super. It's the only resolution NM> setting higher than M2. Another reminder of the classic danger of assuming. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:15:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EGEwee022698 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:14:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:15:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC41A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3154882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:57 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EGEvuG019926 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:57 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22798382 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:37:45 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:15:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:14:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <352980923.20050614101455@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Camera Resolution In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061408431f81d161@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061408431f81d161@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82228, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 9:43 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> When I see the letters S, M, and L, I think Small Medium and Large. As do I, of course including as well XL, XXL, etc, etc. dan, now an XL (and will so stay due to chest size) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:16:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EGG6ee022838 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:16:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:16:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBC3E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:16:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3155094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:16:05 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EGG5Lp020152 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:16:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22977885 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:25:22 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:16:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:16:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1008869428.20050614101603@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Camera Resolution In-Reply-To: References: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=95118, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 9:48 AM, bonniemaev wrote: b> That doesn't really explain it. Another person would still have thought of b> it as Large, Medium one, Medium two, and small. And once again, that person would be guilty of assuming instead of reading the FM. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:18:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EGHtee023013 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:17:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:18:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBC3FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:17:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3155254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:17:55 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EGHrwG020332 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:17:53 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22798896 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:40:42 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:18:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:17:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82231, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Looks like the ones that have white speckles/streaks (first one the worst example) are because of reflections off the print. Perhaps reshooting from a slightly different angle, or flattening out the print, would solve it. (Yes, I'm assuming those artifacts are not on the printed pictures) dan 6/14/2005, 9:49 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> This will be pretty slow-loading since I put all six on the same page: NM> http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Brad/ NM> I think I'll just go on and snail-mail the prints to Stephanie in NM> Lexington. They're good pictures, but the pictures of the pictures NM> didn't work so well. NM> -- NM> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:22:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EGLxee023392 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:22:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:22:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC48D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:21:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3155776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:21:58 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EGLw88021046 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:21:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23048518 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:22:16 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:22:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:21:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1635367312.20050614102156@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Check Question In-Reply-To: <42AF0094.5050000@maynor.net> References: <42AF0094.5050000@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=81223, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 10:06 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> as NM> in doing something like writing my name in the usual endorsing way but NM> followed by something like "to the Lee County Library" or "for the Lee NM> County Library"? Yes. Write something like "pay to the order of the Lee County Library" and then sign it. If you're worried about a bank being super picky on wording, call and ask. But I've done that kind of thing before. Sort of like writing "for deposit only" on it. And of course these days no one really looks at the check anyway. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:30:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EGU4ee024188 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:30:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:30:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC51C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:30:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3156906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:30:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EGU3gD022292 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:30:03 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so64886nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.227.62 with SMTP id z62mr3790627nzg; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:30:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GCnUfGb2WICJeC5PgMOOE30/1P1NQI9lSaOX555KoTlqgfgW5v6HkOX6yMmT5QPrBjVI+eLcthPEbYoZpltwpT+EgdF50a0EoyC2ZGNpV+crHRQO7wbmv8L/rzwvJEcSfIzaf18UKE6yZY72L4z9+H6GqJxvi+pV5g7E+506V7M= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:30:03 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] In-Reply-To: <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EGU3gD022293 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Count me in with the rest: "from Words-L" is fine, and I don't need an acknowledgement. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:43:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EGhoee025619 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:43:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:43:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC5FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:43:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3158581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:43:49 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EGhmPp024086 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:43:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 22982598 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:53:06 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:44:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:43:46 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Nut job of the day MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=95143, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The REAL reasons the World Trade Center came down....it wasn't the damn planes after all.... http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 11:56:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EGuYee026966 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:56:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:56:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067D749@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:56:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3158787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:56:28 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EGbIqZ023178 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:46:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 14174 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 16:36:46 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:36:45 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You don't think that the damn certificate is unreadable because of laughably insufficient lighting, or something? Naaaah. It must have been Canon's rumored-about s3kr1t optimization of the FFT that produces wild artifacts in a one in a million worst-case. That must be it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 12:06:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EH6Hee028143 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC74B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:06:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3161193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:06:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EH6GVG027382 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:06:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so98697nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr3550782nzd; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:06:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=TcjbvGyJ+bpb0Y+zjyQKcOXF0pz8fHqSkX13h0m4eKhiYDjjCDk/WWaw/kZtXV+sUorG2lFiUHDVGv7q8GfUonJI3hR88RCKGeLeVk4DF8GUcVRwoEfNDQYnn5xEKc5fjpajWxwj/1t29hjOT/Lnf7eBpw1riTeJe4UZtNogzZs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506141006330023c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:06:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Clue for Natalie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EH6GVG027383 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU S is Small, not Super. p.38 of the manual. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 12:19:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EHJ9ee029585 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:19:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:19:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBC7BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:19:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3162325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:19:08 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EHJ7v1029331 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:19:08 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5EHJ6r0021320 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:19:06 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5EHJ6dU021318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:19:06 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:19:06 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Camera Resolution Message-ID: <20050614171906.GA21249@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:38:07AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = I just dug up some old prints of pictures of Brad and couldn't find the = scanner software so decided to take pictures of the prints with my new = camera. When I went to change the resolution, I found that these are = the four choices: L, M1, M2, S. There is no H. So I set it on M2 and Large Medium1 Medium2 Small Please set your camera on L for Large. steph summarizing for Pete's sake From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 12:22:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EHMcee029906 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:22:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:22:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC7E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:22:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3162505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:22:37 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EHMbBp029843 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:22:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22808684 for multiple; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:45:23 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:23:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:22:32 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1798482610.20050614112232@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Even sicker yet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82301, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here we are in good old Idaho, where Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist in Topeka, the www.godhatesfags.com guy, has previously tried to get an anti-gay monument put into a city park. He lost. But the ten commandments monument was moved from the city park where it had been peacefully for over 40 years (paid for and placed by the Elks). It is now in front of our church, St. Michael's Episcopal Cathedral, where it faces the state capitol, where the governor can look out his window and see it every day he cares to. (The city made the Elks take it back, which they did legally, but it moved straight to our church as we paid the Elks ten bucks for it (or as some wags put it, a buck a commandment). It is now ten times more visible than it ever was, and is on private property across the street from the capitol. Anyway....a local soldier, female, was killed in Iraq about a week ago by a roadside bomb (IED). Her funeral is tomorrow in Caldwell, a suburb about thirty miles away. But they're coming to protest, because this all proves God is punishing America by killing our soldiers. See this URL.... http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/jun2005/20050613_carrie-french-funeral.pdf And some people wonder why Christianity gets a bad name.... (and of course the same with the Muslims and others, where the vast majority are peaceful and loving, but there are a few nuts who do evil stuff) dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 12:24:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EHO6ee030029 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:24:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:24:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067D638@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:14:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3162012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:14:05 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EHE4sr028615 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:14:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBC795@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:14:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200506141714.j5EHE4sr028615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:14:03 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Check Question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:06:44 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I just thought of a question I should ask while I'm thinking about it, >though I won't have a chance to read list mail for a while -- this week >is quite hectic. One Wordsler (can't remember who now -- just remember >noticing it when I stuffed the check into the envelope) made the check >out to me instead of to the library. If I want to send that check along >with the others instead of cashing it and then writing one to replace >it, isn't there some way to make it safer than just endorsing it -- as >in doing something like writing my name in the usual endorsing way but >followed by something like "to the Lee County Library" or "for the Lee >County Library"? Pay to the order of Lee County Library Natalie Maynor clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 12:51:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EHpFee000099 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:51:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:51:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBC914@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:51:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3164119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:51:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EHfE0C000503 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:41:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 46780 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 17:41:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:41:13 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie Message-ID: <20050614174113.GA44521@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a050613112562375f63@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83db447a050613112562375f63@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 02:25:02PM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 6/13/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > So maybe it is really "Drive your dog to work in your Corvette day". > > Or, "Let your dog drive your Corvette to work day." Biologically, philosophically, or otherwise? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 12:51:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EHpZee000134 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:51:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:51:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067D728@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:51:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3164135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:51:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EHfY9j000537 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:41:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 47080 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 17:41:34 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:41:34 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie Message-ID: <20050614174134.GB44521@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a050613112562375f63@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050613112639992fde@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050613112639992fde@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 01:26:12PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/13/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > On 6/13/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > So maybe it is really "Drive your dog to work in your Corvette day". > > > > Or, "Let your dog drive your Corvette to work day." > > Even better! Or at least weirder! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 12:53:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EHr2ee000304 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:53:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:53:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBC942@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:53:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3164226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:53:02 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EHh1pH000698 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:43:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 48330 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 17:43:01 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:43:01 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky Message-ID: <20050614174301.GC44521@words-l.org> References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613093226cfeb82@mail.gmail.com> <537946653.20050613122134@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506131125358bc41b@mail.gmail.com> <824323245.20050613130751@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061312126e44132f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061312126e44132f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 02:12:06PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 6/13/2005, 12:25 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > >> I knew you meant addy. But I've never heard of "vickies" though have > > >> been there on the rare, VERY rare, occasions I go anywhere near the > > >> mall...about once a year. > > > > AFoA> It's a girl thing. > > > > Guess so. Though there are always plenty of guys in there when I've > > been there, in Boise or elsewhere. I've bought things there several > > times. > > Terminology, Dan, terminology. Not the store itself. Well, "addy" is not a female-specific usage. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 12:55:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EHtHee000554 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:55:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:55:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBC97B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:55:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3164350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:55:17 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EHjE6f001159 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:45:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 50347 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 17:45:13 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:45:13 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie Message-ID: <20050614174513.GD44521@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <448502949.20050613122033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061311215c963655@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506131145372bf4ad@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705061312051ce5e279@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a7050613122055c906ee@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 03:24:45PM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > In the area of excesses, I just read that IBM's new supercomputer will > > use $400,000-500,000 of electricity per year. > > I'm starting to think Google's next strategic move will be a safe > fusion reactor. With a single-field interface! Because, as we know, that kind of simplicity is always appropriate for everything! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 13:11:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EIBlee002427 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:11:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:11:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067D977@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:01:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3167026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:01:46 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EI1kWa005078 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:01:46 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so419129wri for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.144.9 with SMTP id r9mr3361568wrd; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:01:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Vz9Oz5LaRPuIIEj2mE/bAdLfk3BgUlDcU+cKNCNSzlWlfIm7eHH8IAjBDohPA/afsdl+98Lr5j5jK5Tcu+8Zpjrxqu4vdkrM1bnBgBfmERDzLQNRho29FtbiVAP4g0D/xpKCGcFcSWl054ilxhj36Z8vjVIjfwesFUuunZ+jY3Y= Message-ID: <83db447a05061411011998f2e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:01:41 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5EIBlee002427 On 6/14/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > The REAL reasons the World Trade Center came down....it wasn't the > damn planes after all.... > > http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html > So, you're spending the entire day hanging out on the lunatic fringe? Anyhjow, good to see that Bush's former cabinet officers are keeping up the good work. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 13:13:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EIDbee002660 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:13:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:13:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBC9F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:03:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3167245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:03:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EI3VL0005441 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:03:31 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1456190wra for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.37.70 with SMTP id k70mr2169079wrk; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:03:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iffmoVnm9ogVVIxws4O7KIwBLSrZOTOoq7xkp+YlQz8Crl75GaVWICqW93Pdvsq02+esjce5x6KpiSl5K7sGClZHCfJS/deXRCM5TPs6XH23fpvxE7d8peBRIalx3sWztMRDMoGPX6T5zyN0fCzBuHRVZFhR3Keov6KXZwhTfxo= Message-ID: <83db447a05061411032f586106@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:03:31 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Even sicker yet In-Reply-To: <1798482610.20050614112232@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <1798482610.20050614112232@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5EIDbee002660 On 6/14/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > Anyway....a local soldier, female, was killed in Iraq about a week > ago by a roadside bomb (IED). Her funeral is tomorrow in Caldwell, > a suburb about thirty miles away. But they're coming to protest, > because this all proves God is punishing America by killing our > soldiers. Has anyone suggested that perhaps it is punishment for allowing people like Phelps to run free? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 13:13:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EIDbee002663 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:13:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:13:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBC9E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:06:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3167594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:06:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EI6oRU006093 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:06:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so28710nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr3575426nzh; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:06:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SyJqcbEbgP7sIDs8NZ7ZvzQNH9YvwuS25/XbgUGt7kYekfxopZ9kyZJbuZfm7SeQ0RZoNqrPdDw7Bd6gXAUblEH1yyomXINWamAhH/9OveNnu+o5wxz69DhD3rLlUTDw0gwoTk9Fcb2FwB+5SGXd9dugQd6GDLUM+MxErco/vV4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506141106229e7773@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:06:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sakky In-Reply-To: <20050614174301.GC44521@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613093226cfeb82@mail.gmail.com> <537946653.20050613122134@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506131125358bc41b@mail.gmail.com> <824323245.20050613130751@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061312126e44132f@mail.gmail.com> <20050614174301.GC44521@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EI6pRU006095 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 02:12:06PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/13/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > 6/13/2005, 12:25 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > >> I knew you meant addy. But I've never heard of "vickies" though have > > > >> been there on the rare, VERY rare, occasions I go anywhere near the > > > >> mall...about once a year. > > > > > > AFoA> It's a girl thing. > > > > > > Guess so. Though there are always plenty of guys in there when I've > > > been there, in Boise or elsewhere. I've bought things there several > > > times. > > > > Terminology, Dan, terminology. Not the store itself. > > Well, "addy" is not a female-specific usage. I know, you've been running all over Chicago saying it to provide counterexamples. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 13:13:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EIDbee002664 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:13:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:13:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBCA46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:08:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3167766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:08:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EI8v3M006317 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:08:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so136192nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.220.6 with SMTP id s6mr782847nzg; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:08:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ekKVGE53p2cbfsb51bD3g5jI8QnBeb2H1ubjUzPbqvXvgUNOg/kP15y5M+68QKO9CNa0Feqf39gmZrFnq3TPHUEOgF6BK8b7sY5z/WysKuHJEYJemz7MyAD3n2uINurx529jz4Aml6axemGbRAlhasI1+hiwYZonVGdlseTJL8Q= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:08:57 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie In-Reply-To: <1463436923.20050613222914@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> <1463436923.20050613222914@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EI8w3M006318 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > NM> This picture is obscene! > NM> http://www.noahs.com/Resources/Images/TakeYourDogBanner.gif > By whose standards and for what possible reason? Because it looks like an uncut sinclair. Cue Butt-head laugh. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 13:46:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EIkPee006478 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:46:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:46:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBCBC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:46:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3171588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:46:25 -0400 Received: from web60721.mail.yahoo.com (web60721.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.209]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EIkO5S013111 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:46:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 97866 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jun 2005 18:46:24 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60721.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:46:24 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Q0HN6wYNoZKbydiKddMBMf7hxcV5PbwkgrgEppF0GB0t2qBDTIzHmxY2LJi3hZVe97lxDZ9qU1W97wIoadauml5vF6jOUwTb908EL+0fZagfaGACPsMj0bb9ApAVW8NaXL5V3YtOBnebRB+RVbVdp4Ol6bKUmEqDjaV/8M1CepU= ; Message-ID: <20050614184624.97864.qmail@web60721.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Check Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1635367312.20050614102156@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Dan Lester wrote: > 6/14/2005, 10:06 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> as > NM> in doing something like writing my name in the > usual endorsing way but > NM> followed by something like "to the Lee County > Library" or "for the Lee > NM> County Library"? I write my endorsement signature as usual, then "endorsed to (blah blah blah). It's always worked without any misfortunes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 13:49:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EImsee006731 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:48:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:49:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067D92C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:48:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3170881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:48:53 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EIcpIh011512 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:38:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 87377 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 18:38:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:38:50 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? Message-ID: <20050614183850.GA86488@words-l.org> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:42:59PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > We're just thoroughly disgusted. Admittedly some of the prosecution > witnesses have a history of golddigging, but.....it surely wasn't all > made up. A columnist is born. > 6/13/2005, 5:06 PM, Doris Markland wrote: > > DM> So Michael walked. > > DM> But then, he doesn't walk like other people. > > DM> I am neither surprised nor not surprised. Just > DM> didn't make a judgement and didn't have an > DM> opinion. > > DM> - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:11:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJBCee009282 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067DB76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:11:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:11:10 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EJB970018069 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:11:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23072242 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:11:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:11:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:11:07 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <75338214.20050614131107@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: sakky In-Reply-To: <20050614174301.GC44521@words-l.org> References: <42AA3B24.9080403@maynor.net> <1774873813.20050613050734@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506130439fd7f664@mail.gmail.com> <1175635207.20050613060636@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050613093226cfeb82@mail.gmail.com> <537946653.20050613122134@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506131125358bc41b@mail.gmail.com> <824323245.20050613130751@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061312126e44132f@mail.gmail.com> <20050614174301.GC44521@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=81391, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 11:43 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Terminology, Dan, terminology. Not the store itself. DMH> Well, "addy" is not a female-specific usage. As noted, I don't think I've ever seen it used by a male in email, but the main place I see it is a couple of health related groups I run on yahoogroups which are about 90 percent female. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:11:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJBFee009292 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBCBF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:51:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3170993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:51:10 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EIf9or011846 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:41:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 89236 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 18:41:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:41:09 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie Message-ID: <20050614184109.GB86488@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 08:17:58PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >http://www.noahs.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/dogtoworkday.main > > > > > This picture is obscene! > > http://www.noahs.com/Resources/Images/TakeYourDogBanner.gif Let's write to the Clarion-Ledger ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:11:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJBFee009296 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBCC60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:54:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3171371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:54:01 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EIi1Zu012672 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:44:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 90209 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 18:44:00 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:44:00 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: An unusual Ebay political item Message-ID: <20050614184400.GC86488@words-l.org> References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 09:59:02PM -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > See item number 5588268268 at Ebay.com. Wow, Dr Phil is getting into politics? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:11:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJBFee009295 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBCC1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:55:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3171573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:55:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EIjilT013031 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:45:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 91473 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 18:45:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:45:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] Message-ID: <20050614184542.GD86488@words-l.org> References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 09:27:57PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? Not me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:11:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJBFee009294 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBCC3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:58:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3171769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:58:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EImXhD013487 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:48:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 92283 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 18:48:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:48:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? Message-ID: <20050614184833.GE86488@words-l.org> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 10:34:52PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/13/2005, 8:01 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> I just don't click on > NM> headlines that have > NM> to do with pop stars or such because I have very > NM> little interest in them > NM> or their lives or their trials. > > I don't give a shit about him, just the kids he fucked with, and all > the idiots that run around cheering for him like he's some great hero. > Damn, people are stupid.....not like we didn't know that. Your column should have these as separate paragraphs. But not as separate posts. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:11:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJBFee009293 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:11:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBCCC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:06:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3172456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:06:44 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EIuh4s014932 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:56:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 96861 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 18:56:43 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:56:43 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: An unusual Ebay political item Message-ID: <20050614185643.GF86488@words-l.org> References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <83db447a050614064135ac0c33@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506140710592db773@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506140710592db773@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:10:19AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/14/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > On 6/13/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > > > > > See item number 5588268268 at Ebay.com . > > > > The start of a trend? Perhaps someday Bill Frist, instead of selling > > himself privately to Wyeth and Pfizer, can do it on eBay. Think of what Tom > > DeLay could bring... > > I learned this morning that Ebay takes 8% of all sales. Whew! Not any more--I and this guy in the next office just sold a pair of chopsticks to each other 17 quinzillion times. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:22:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJLhee010352 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:21:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:21:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBCD25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:11:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:11:43 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EJBg2h018172 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:11:42 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23072309 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:12:00 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:12:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:11:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <357792998.20050614131140@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <83db447a05061411011998f2e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> <83db447a05061411011998f2e5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=81395, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Actually got it from my son, a perl geek. dan 6/14/2005, 12:01 PM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> The REAL reasons the World Trade Center came down....it wasn't the >> damn planes after all.... >> >> http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html >> CV> So, you're spending the entire day hanging out on the lunatic fringe? CV> Anyhjow, good to see that Bush's former cabinet officers are keeping up the CV> good work. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:22:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJLhee010358 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:21:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:22:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBCD2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:12:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3173383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:12:27 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EJ2Ovj016541 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:02:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 99534 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 19:02:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:02:24 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no receipts/no mailing lists, please Message-ID: <20050614190224.GG86488@words-l.org> References: <1884617268.20050614091815@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050614113019.01c0f240@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050614113019.01c0f240@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 11:31:20AM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 11:18 AM 6/14/2005, Dan Lester wrote: > > >... But about five years ago I sent fifty > >bucks to UConn Library in memory of a dear friend who died. Well, > >they've spent way more than that mailing me stuff since then. Fancy > >newsletters that compare to alumni magazines every quarter, phone > >calls during phone drives, etc, etc... > > ...thus supporting the old adage that no good deed goes unpunished. It must be nice to buy oneself lifetime adage-quoting rights for 50 bucks. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:22:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJLhee010361 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:21:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:22:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBCD0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:15:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3173705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:15:10 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EJ58o2017212 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:05:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 975 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 19:05:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:05:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Camera Resolution Message-ID: <20050614190507.GH86488@words-l.org> References: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061408431f81d161@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a0506140906504ddf12@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506140906504ddf12@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:06:16PM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 6/14/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > When I see the letters S, M, and L, I think Small Medium and Large. > > Not Super, Monstrous, and Leviathanesque? I'd go for Scientific, Moral and Leprous. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:22:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJLhee010360 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:21:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:22:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBCD39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:14:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:14:05 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EJE2LA018455 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:14:03 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23072611 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:21 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:14:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1164352474.20050614131401@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Natalie In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> <1463436923.20050613222914@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=81400, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 12:08 PM, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> NM> This picture is obscene! >> NM> http://www.noahs.com/Resources/Images/TakeYourDogBanner.gif >> By whose standards and for what possible reason? BO> Because it looks like an uncut sinclair. Cue Butt-head laugh. Oh, I got that.....but had thought Natalie might have been beyond that....hmmmm....haven't heard her do a Butthead laugh....could be interesting.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:22:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJLhee010359 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:21:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:22:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBCCF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:12:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:12:57 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EJCugx018351 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:12:57 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23072464 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:13:15 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:13:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:12:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <603264477.20050614131255@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Even sicker yet In-Reply-To: <83db447a05061411032f586106@mail.gmail.com> References: <1798482610.20050614112232@gailndan.com> <83db447a05061411032f586106@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=81398, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 12:03 PM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> Anyway....a local soldier, female, was killed in Iraq about a week >> ago by a roadside bomb (IED). Her funeral is tomorrow in Caldwell, >> a suburb about thirty miles away. But they're coming to protest, >> because this all proves God is punishing America by killing our >> soldiers. CV> Has anyone suggested that perhaps it is punishment for allowing people like CV> Phelps to run free? Well I wouldn't be totally surprised if someone here eliminated Phelps, particularly at a military funeral. However, hopefully they won't, because a martyr is the last thing those nuts need. And I think he has eight kids also committed to the cause, all adults, continuing his "good works". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:22:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJLhef010352 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:21:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:22:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBCD0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:15:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:15:38 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EJFbFo018657 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:15:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22824710 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:38:26 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:16:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:15:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19410422735.20050614131535@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <20050614184833.GE86488@words-l.org> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <20050614184833.GE86488@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82402, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 12:48 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> NM> I just don't click on >> NM> headlines that have >> NM> to do with pop stars or such because I have very >> NM> little interest in them >> NM> or their lives or their trials. >> >> I don't give a shit about him, just the kids he fucked with, and all >> the idiots that run around cheering for him like he's some great hero. >> Damn, people are stupid.....not like we didn't know that. DMH> Your column should have these as separate paragraphs. But not DMH> as separate posts. Huh? When they're separate things said by separate people? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:22:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJLhef010361 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:22:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:22:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBCD9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:18:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:18:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EJ8XTH017795 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:08:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 2081 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 19:08:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:08:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day Message-ID: <20050614190833.GI86488@words-l.org> References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:43:46AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > The REAL reasons the World Trade Center came down....it wasn't the > damn planes after all.... > > http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html Oh my god, don't tell the PRESS! *scary music* From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:22:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJLhef010358 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:22:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:22:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBCD47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:17:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:17:11 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EJHA54019010 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:17:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23004017 for multiple; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:26:29 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:17:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:17:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU CC: dlester@boisestate.edu Subject: for michael MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=95265, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU June 14, 2005 The Top 5 Things on Michael Jackson's To-Do List 5> Cancel subscriptions to Highlights and Boys' Life. 4> Stop referring to children's hospital visits as "speed-dating." 3> Celebrate with my old Irish chum, Ryne O'Plasty. 2> Vow to never stop searching until I find my *real* nose. and Topfive.com's Number 1 Thing on Michael Jackson's To-Do List... 1> Give Macaulay Culkin that kickass Hummer I promised him for testifying on my behalf. And maybe an SUV, too. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 14:32:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EJWXee011688 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:32:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:32:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBCDDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:22:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:22:33 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EJCVvr018298 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:12:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 4071 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 19:12:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:12:31 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie Message-ID: <20050614191231.GJ86488@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> <1463436923.20050613222914@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 02:08:57PM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > NM> This picture is obscene! > > NM> http://www.noahs.com/Resources/Images/TakeYourDogBanner.gif > > By whose standards and for what possible reason? > > Because it looks like an uncut sinclair. Cue Butt-head laugh. "Butt" ... heh heh From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 15:45:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EKjFee019699 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:45:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:45:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067DCCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:45:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3182863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:45:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EKZ3Ui032702 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:35:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 56395 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 20:35:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:35:02 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael Message-ID: <20050614203502.GA55093@words-l.org> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 01:17:08PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > June 14, 2005 > > > The Top 5 Things on Michael Jackson's To-Do List > > > 5> Cancel subscriptions to Highlights and Boys' Life. > > 4> Stop referring to children's hospital visits as "speed-dating." > > 3> Celebrate with my old Irish chum, Ryne O'Plasty. > > 2> Vow to never stop searching until I find my *real* nose. > > > and Topfive.com's Number 1 Thing > on Michael Jackson's To-Do List... > > > 1> Give Macaulay Culkin that kickass Hummer I promised him for > testifying on my behalf. And maybe an SUV, too. I do hope THE PRESS[*] doesn't get a hold of this. -- * scary music From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 15:46:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EKjtee019771 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:45:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:46:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBD1FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:45:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3182959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:45:54 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5EKZrnB000408 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:35:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 56956 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 20:35:53 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:35:53 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? Message-ID: <20050614203553.GB55093@words-l.org> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <20050614184833.GE86488@words-l.org> <19410422735.20050614131535@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19410422735.20050614131535@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 01:15:35PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/14/2005, 12:48 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> NM> I just don't click on > >> NM> headlines that have > >> NM> to do with pop stars or such because I have very > >> NM> little interest in them > >> NM> or their lives or their trials. > >> > >> I don't give a shit about him, just the kids he fucked with, and all > >> the idiots that run around cheering for him like he's some great hero. > >> Damn, people are stupid.....not like we didn't know that. > > DMH> Your column should have these as separate paragraphs. But not > DMH> as separate posts. > > Huh? When they're separate things said by separate people? No, just all of your posts. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 16:36:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ELaYee024720 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:36:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:36:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBD574@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:36:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3191006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:36:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ELaX1t011557 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:36:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so139013nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.2 with SMTP id u2mr3716025nzb; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:36:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Jbwa0I0IJ/hmZ7jojUWahR1R9jtgWaAoV9Ne7eQD0msLNbffet0F7Ip2kVZHVAVioSANbee03Pf7i1evBY809HIbuz8wri5mXwsdyOGh5I8j0T2DYvFXhOdtm1BOkD9xS4wYspaqhy/LjP6klUh0Vog/EH3SUMKAasrHtAv35iY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:36:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Do you ever say... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5ELaY1t011558 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the user"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 16:51:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ELpiee026691 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:51:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:51:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBD64B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:51:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3192922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:51:44 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ELphpC014024 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:51:44 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112951294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:51:43 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050614145152.0286dd70@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:53:00 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:36 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote: >"application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as >an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the >user"? I've never heard the program attached. But to answer your question, no. I never say it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 16:57:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ELv2ee027116 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:57:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:57:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBD656@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:57:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3193454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:57:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ELv1cG015337 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:57:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so147871nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr3723773nzh; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:57:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mOtusoz0GytUJcZniPmb5RTQ0+CU6HEnSN9ie6F1XG5PQ9DY/dlgwkFT/HrTrjXyF9r23kKj7kqutuaUjpMgj1ShvAtIolSO//PUVBtR8mVBle5SCjOoCsIgdnh0Pt0FlQxnslo4Y5t1Lot78olQ+9Nnkih0TAx10b9xPBTyEY4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061414575db3745f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:57:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050614145152.0286dd70@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614145152.0286dd70@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5ELv2cG015338 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 02:36 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote: > >"application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as > >an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the > >user"? > > I've never heard the program attached. What?! > But to answer your question, no. I never say it. Okay... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 16:57:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ELvYee027219 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:57:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:57:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBD695@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:57:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3193486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:57:34 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ELvXKd015383 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:57:33 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614215733.BQWN13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:57:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614215732.YFUA1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:57:32 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF52C3.8010606@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:57:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <42ADDAE9.80504@istori.com> <42AE3407.7000802@maynor.net> <42AE3ED9.6040102@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42AE3ED9.6040102@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Resolution == image size. "S" is small. Here are the settings: Ahh. I've always heard people use the terms "high resolution" and "low resolution." So naturally I thought L=low. I can't remember ever having heard anybody say "large resolution" and "small resolution." But then I haven't really been in on many such discussions. I must've stumbled upon mutant ones. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 16:59:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ELxaee027447 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:59:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:59:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBD6BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:59:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3193630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:59:35 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ELxZpq015596 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:59:35 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614215935.BUVJ13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:59:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614215934.YHOS1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:59:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF5342.3080002@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:59:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Kristin References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AEC0B1.6010107@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42AEC0B1.6010107@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > My bubbled envelope might even be an exaggeration. Like a special > security door that may make one think there must be something precious > behind it. I thought it was an especially cute envelope. And I like that it speaks French. Instead of throwing it away, I stuck it in my drawer of personally recycled envelopes -- those that I scratch out old addresses and write new ones on. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:04:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EM48ee027809 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:04:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:04:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067E21A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3194726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:07 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EM47jf016318 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:07 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614220406.CENC13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614220406.YMYW1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:04:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:04:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> I don't give a shit about him, just the kids he fucked with, and all >> the idiots that run around cheering for him like he's some great hero. >> Damn, people are stupid.....not like we didn't know that. >> >> dan > > Some parents aren't too smart either. I heard on my car radio this afternoon that some of his fans are likening his acquittal to the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:06:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EM6Hee028281 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:06:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:06:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067E13D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:06:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3195308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:06:17 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EM6HOd016936 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:06:17 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614220617.CIRT13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:06:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614220616.YPOE1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:06:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF54D4.1080105@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:06:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before the page may fade away References: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Reading Brad's home page: What does 'Lansakes' mean? I assume it's a spelling of "land sakes" -- like "land sakes, alive" -- an expression of surprise. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:09:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EM9Lee028602 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:09:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:09:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067E25E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:09:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3195557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:09:21 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EM9K9b017216 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:09:20 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614220920.CNPH13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:09:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614220920.YSIE1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:09:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF5589.2070504@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:09:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before the page may fade away References: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry Clark wrote: >The only people I've known to use this expression were from the midwest. > > Hmm. I don't know how often I've actually said it, though surely I have on a fair number of occasions. It's certainly a phrase I've heard all my life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:11:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMB6ee028825 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:11:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:11:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBD699@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:01:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3193979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:01:04 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EM14wt015875 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:01:04 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-161.gwi.net [216.195.165.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5EM0w6T034515; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:01:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050614174202.01c15848@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:42:11 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:36 PM 6/14/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >"application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as >an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the >user"? no. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:11:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMB6ee028826 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:11:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:11:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBD6D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:02:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3194429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:02:43 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EM2gUg016112 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:02:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005061422024101300ru78ve>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:02:41 +0000 Message-ID: <42AF5400.1080107@istori.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:02:40 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen writes, > "application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as > an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the > user"? I say "application" all the time. I can imagine saying "application program," and may have done so, but not very often. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:15:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMFkee029390 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:15:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:15:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBD7A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3196084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMFiGJ018011 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so148370nzk for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr3739639nzd; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=odKJcC63tVdaw8Od9e/3U5b2g9U8WehVZK8+cPB4IreO5DNl7q6IdY8fSPqjwVHBn5HnZYQdQvbZ5sAAk5yvWGFKFfuSCD1/aKaX+1Y08ToK8SN8MCrBFivuEAJ8exitvqi66RIqXiyv+QMgVECPszTw3LU3f919vjYpi5cuRQE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061415157eeb44c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:15:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050614151427.02861eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614145152.0286dd70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705061414575db3745f@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614151427.02861eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EMFjGJ018021 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU n 6/14/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 02:57 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote: > >On 6/14/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > At 02:36 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote: > > > >"application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as > > > >an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the > > > >user"? > > > > > > I've never heard the program attached. > > > >What?! > > > Application "program". Oh. Thanks. I need to retire.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:21:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMLaee029975 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:21:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:21:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBD7BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:21:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3196277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:21:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMLXkT018577 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:21:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so277nzk for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.3 with SMTP id b3mr3751951nzd; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:14:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RDXLzKZhRhit6ADosHNRx9uovxrjeWJf5pBplT7/YvxEDvugJ0oGt3T4V52oCPueS0UxScUBUyqyGPgkPDJB67Jx3pqaXwh862Hugx/42CG3sQXWr6bDu/3mRJLKalYFZQSt5fiLHMQ2iwHp8ONzlFIAdC956mVovLHSMSolYuU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506141514390dbf3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:14:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <42AF5400.1080107@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> <42AF5400.1080107@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EMLZkT018579 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen writes, > > > "application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as > > an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the > > user"? > > I say "application" all the time. I can imagine saying "application > program," and may have done so, but not very often. Thanks! I've got two really good SMEs who say it, so I'm trying to figure out why. I think of it as an old fogey-ism, and I loathe it, so we compromised, after arm-twisting on both sides, on "application software", which is, according to Google, far more common. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:23:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMNeee030168 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:23:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:23:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067E292@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:13:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3195903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:13:40 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMDdE1017764 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:13:39 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112959197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:13:39 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050614151427.02861eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:14:56 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061414575db3745f@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614145152.0286dd70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705061414575db3745f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:57 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote: >On 6/14/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 02:36 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote: > > >"application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as > > >an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the > > >user"? > > > > I've never heard the program attached. > >What?! Application "program". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:23:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMNhee030174 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:23:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:23:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067E356@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:17:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3196134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:17:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMHEG8018210 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:17:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so149209nzk for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr3735109nzh; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:17:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dkQOzjXmTgDETRKFU7J4VF9DMLYUfN4ItY5aZOsq7jIe+barWLFPeo139A6rPK78HrZBVnEtt797RQFwYIyuSyQvRojGm/bhEWESSIfQrg+jJ5Sns9cb3XMpMdU6r1dr8t8txiQxfFCBlZXXxEDskn01U+Pv8ewWPpcezqOOsWw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061415174c1a1fa2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:17:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EMHEG8018211 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > on my car radio this afternoon that some of his fans are > likening his acquittal to the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. What does this MEAN????? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:23:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMNhee030176 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:23:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:23:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067E355@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:16:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3196113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:16:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMGTTL018155 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:16:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so148759nzk for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.97.2 with SMTP id u2mr3739070nzb; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:16:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZDKfJe5tWncDiDdLfzNJ7ZtIMO9TEsWeyQpd8pG/9BJgag/vRw6jMi1OOfjm9qsI59IBJT3Xyk6+237h7M3klc2vyHiygI3sV+2E0YzfFW9uVVqaR63DHCRtQ/Uq/s/u6HT3waB5I+ht8/kOKxD8bMxNMPrKJ6dUiUo5dlrAwx4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506141516375102e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:16:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42AF52C3.8010606@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <42ADDAE9.80504@istori.com> <42AE3407.7000802@maynor.net> <42AE3ED9.6040102@istori.com> <42AF52C3.8010606@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EMGUTL018157 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > Resolution == image size. "S" is small. Here are the settings: > > Ahh. I've always heard people use the terms "high resolution" and "low > resolution." So naturally I thought L=low. I can't remember ever > having heard anybody say "large resolution" and "small resolution." But > then I haven't really been in on many such discussions. I must've > stumbled upon mutant ones. High resolution gives a large photograph... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:27:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMRMee030561 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:27:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:27:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBD82E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:27:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3196561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:27:21 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMRLY2019277 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:27:21 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614222721.FWZQ2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:27:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614222721.LKWC8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:27:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF59C4.7030708@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:27:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: no receipts/no mailing lists, please References: <1884617268.20050614091815@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1884617268.20050614091815@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Well, I don't know about libraries....depends I think. We only send >acknowledgments and aren't big or fancy enough to have spiffy > > I hope you send them in a more timely fashion than the MSU library apparently does. This is funny timing because just today I got a nice letter from the MSU library thanking me for contributing four books. The letter had been forwarded from my Starkville address -- my street address, which means somebody used the phone book to find it (an old phone book, at that). I looked at the date, and the letter was in fact written this June -- something like June 6. I couldn't imagine what it was talking about -- what books I had donated to the MSU library. (I did, of course, get the usual card from the Starkville Public Library acknowledging my gift of about 600 books to Friends of the Library not long before I moved but couldn't remember giving any books to the MSU library.) Anyway, I finally figured out what it must be about. I didn't expect a thank-you letter at all and certainly not a couple of years later. I can't remember exactly when I gave those books, but it was long before I had any idea I was going to move. What happened was that I was talking to one of the genealogy people in Special Collections about the old church directories they had and mentioned that I had some of my parents' church directories from Galloway in Jackson, directories that might be of genealogical use in the future though probably not now. She said yes, they'd like to have them. And she was especially enthusiastic when she found out that Eudora Welty was in them because they have a collection of Eudora stuff in Special Collections (which also houses genealogy stuff). So I took them a while later and handed them to her, along with a rather interesting book about Galloway Church in the '60s -- about racial turmoil, etc. Presumably those were the books I just got a thank-you letter about. Speaking of racial turmoil, I was really impressed with Myrlie Evers-Williams yesterday. This is the first time I'd ever seen her, and I was impressed with her graciousness, her charm, and her gorgeous speaking voice. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:33:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMXPee031104 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:33:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:33:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBD899@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:33:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3198073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:33:22 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMXL5M020242 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:33:21 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614223321.GAOH2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:33:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614223321.LMPY8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:33:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF5B2C.1060500@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:33:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before the page may fade away References: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> <961306756.20050614092453@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <961306756.20050614092453@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Similar in reason and construction to "darn it" or "gosh darn it" or >"for the love of pete" and so forth. > > And "land o goshens." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:36:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMaWee031302 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:36:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:36:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBD8EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:36:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3198285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:36:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMaVII020640 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:36:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so7365nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.20 with SMTP id t20mr3671407nzt; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:36:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bhTveTER4wt2MSb2+wO8mtEvn2E5OvYzM60PJ4y2cHkMveEaUm1jZHIO3TpCNnApGp6t0VUq2Hh8oIkvF+Y4S5ONJqn053P8sB7wi6MGxxqKmJ1irDi+UzfIGc89NZYlKYAtbtKTmnAaNR+WGPtfzvAE1Hnrp6ABgQwjWytZWcA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061415366a579906@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:36:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before the page may fade away In-Reply-To: <42AF5B2C.1060500@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> <961306756.20050614092453@gailndan.com> <42AF5B2C.1060500@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5EMaVII020642 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > > >Similar in reason and construction to "darn it" or "gosh darn it" or > >"for the love of pete" and so forth. > > > > > And "land o goshens." I don't think there's an s at the end--Goshen is a place. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:37:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMbGee031339 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:37:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:37:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBD8C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:37:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3198410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:37:15 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMbFUT020739 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:37:15 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614223715.GCTV2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:37:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614223714.LNUY8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:37:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF5C16.6080806@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:37:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Camera Resolution References: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061408431f81d161@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061408431f81d161@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >When I see the letters S, M, and L, I think Small Medium and Large. > > I do in many contexts -- like clothes, milkshakes, etc. But when I've been hearing people talking about "low resolution" vs "high resolution," I naturally would think L=low. (As I said earlier, I have perhaps heard only mutants talking about such matters.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:41:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMfree031789 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:41:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:41:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBD941@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:41:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3198806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:41:53 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMfqUL021198 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:41:52 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614224152.GFGP2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:41:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614224152.LPDW8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:41:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:41:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > (Yes, I'm assuming those artifacts are not on >the printed pictures) > > Correct. The prints are very good. The one of Brad in the bumper car in Seattle is the least good of the bunch, but even it is ok. The others are all quite clear. I especially like the one of him sitting on the porch rail at Clambake. (Shall I mention that I'm po'ed that the gallery, which included that picture along with at least one more of this bunch of pictures, vanished?) Anyway, I mailed the prints to Stephanie today. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 17:49:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5EMmsee032596 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:48:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:49:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBD9BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:48:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3199733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:48:53 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMmrTM022021 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:48:53 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614224853.GIPC2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:48:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614224853.LRHI8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:48:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:48:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >You don't think that the damn certificate is unreadable >because of laughably insufficient lighting, or something? >Naaaah. It must have been Canon's rumored-about s3kr1t >optimization of the FFT that produces wild artifacts >in a one in a million worst-case. That must be it. > > The picture as an example made sense only in the context of the picture taken with the old camera of the same certificate with the same lighting etc. The one taken with the old camera was readable. (I really do love what the certificate says, btw -- the of the church: "Love is the doctrine of this church, the quest of truth its sacrament, and service its prayer.") -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:15:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENFJee003003 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067E4AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:45:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3199347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:45:12 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMj5Go021602 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:45:05 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614224505.GGVN2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:45:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614224505.LQDY8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:45:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF5DED.1070705@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:45:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Check Question References: <42AF0094.5050000@maynor.net> <1635367312.20050614102156@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1635367312.20050614102156@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Yes. Write something like "pay to the order of the Lee County >Library" and then sign it. If you're worried about a bank being super >picky on wording, call and ask. But I've done that kind of thing >before. Sort of like writing "for deposit only" on it. > > Thank you. I shall do that -- endorse it with "pay to the order of Lee County Library." >And of course these days no one really looks at the check anyway. > > Does this mean there's no difference between an endorsed and an unendorsed check? Like I could just mail the check that was made out to Natalie Maynor and expect the Lee County Library to be able to claim the money? If so, I can't see that mailing a check is any different from mailing cash. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:15:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENFPee003034 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBDA36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:01:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3200777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:01:29 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EN1TOe023753 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:01:29 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614230129.GQDG2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:01:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614230129.LVKT8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:01:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF61C4.30304@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:01:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Check Question References: <20050614184624.97864.qmail@web60721.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050614184624.97864.qmail@web60721.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >I write my endorsement signature as usual, then >"endorsed to (blah blah blah). It's always worked >without any misfortunes. > > I feel confident that this will work. If there's a glitch of any kind, I can always go to Tupelo and take care of it. Not as easily from Jackson as from Starkville, but it is nevertheless doable. I for sure would have gone to Brad's funeral if I'd known about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:15:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENFPee003032 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBDA01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:58:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3200491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:58:11 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMwBp4023225 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:58:11 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614225811.GNWA2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:58:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614225810.LUIR8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:58:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF60FE.202@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:58:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> <1463436923.20050613222914@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>NM> This picture is obscene! >>NM> http://www.noahs.com/Resources/Images/TakeYourDogBanner.gif >>By whose standards and for what possible reason? >> >> >Because it looks like an uncut sinclair. Cue Butt-head laugh. > > Ya got it. It looks like an uncut sinclair with blackheads and other skin problems. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:15:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENFPee003033 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBDA17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:59:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3200521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:59:02 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMx2Vv023320 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:59:02 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614225902.GOJE2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:59:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614225902.LUPS8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:59:02 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF6131.90101@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:58:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> <20050614184109.GB86488@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050614184109.GB86488@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>This picture is obscene! >> >>http://www.noahs.com/Resources/Images/TakeYourDogBanner.gif >> >> >Let's write to the Clarion-Ledger ... > > You may do so. There's a link for letters on their website. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:15:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENFPef003034 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBDA73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:09:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3201329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:09:03 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EN93wf025319 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:09:03 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614230903.GUFQ2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:09:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614230902.LYAG8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:09:02 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF638A.5040701@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:08:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >"application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as >an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the >user"? > > No. But I'm a non-techy mutant who is perhaps very much wrong in having thought of the terms "application" and "program" (at least in some contexts) as pretty much synonymous and thus "application program" redundant. Isn't an application a program that is on a computer for some task? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:15:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENFPef003035 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBDA63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:15:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3201745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:15:43 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ENFCs4025948 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:15:12 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614231512.GXPB2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:15:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614231511.MAAV8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:15:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF64FB.8090407@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <42ADDAE9.80504@istori.com> <42AE3407.7000802@maynor.net> <42AE3ED9.6040102@istori.com> <42AF52C3.8010606@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506141516375102e2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506141516375102e2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Ahh. I've always heard people use the terms "high resolution" and "low >>resolution." So naturally I thought L=low. I can't remember ever >>having heard anybody say "large resolution" and "small resolution." But >>then I haven't really been in on many such discussions. I must've >>stumbled upon mutant ones. >> >> >High resolution gives a large photograph... > > So what we're talking about is size-settings. If the word "size" were used, then S, M, L would obviously make sense to me. But people were talking about "resolution" and using the terms "high" and "low." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:15:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENFPee003035 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBDA07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:59:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3200547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:59:12 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMxBk9023367 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:59:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so41447wri for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.94.3 with SMTP id r3mr3774091wrb; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:59:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aIWDGJxvoRFcChjFJUv9hu4aAtS8d3TaJfRssZ6Iafq5YVAPTazYx6tnWkS8fRFHqvkhIRfFXX9uwPXz7IwkzuZyAj/jqGINJferZWkrN2C7xaBlueYZDD5w5bzAbyKEohcz+sIvl+ir4mBfpx/adNdEw+ld/tUuVkChtmQ8I6o= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:59:11 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ENFPee003035 (Shall I mention that I'm po'ed that the > gallery, which included that picture along with at least one more of > this bunch of pictures, vanished?) -- Natalie > Sure. Mention it again. But this time track down the person who did the dastardly deed of losing the gallery. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:15:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENFPee003031 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:15:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBD9F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:55:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3200225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:55:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EMtMPv022684 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:55:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so39690wri for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.9 with SMTP id x9mr3762989wrc; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:55:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=G5B0+Yci0bodDo6nBoTMprLiIkY6yke/vFnq2Ci9XCEtt1ExS+KIe+DuE5OvRqLQtjLdOIBrWb090YN2BcQkzG4Pxh4JAfVGvQ9AsMAwe0y8Zvhv/PmkbVTXXkG5sR78LD/9FKQT8Sq/vG6Y1xv5mG8dklhdaDIlnSZsMglC0dg= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:55:21 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061415174c1a1fa2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061415174c1a1fa2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ENFPee003031 > on my car radio this afternoon that some of his fans are > > likening his acquittal to the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. > > What does this MEAN????? > Karen > Both are momentous occasions celebrating justice restored. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:18:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENINee003309 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:18:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:18:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBDA7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:18:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3201988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:18:22 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ENIMFX026497 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:18:22 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614231822.GZDG2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:18:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614231821.MBCR8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:18:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF65B9.7090505@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:18:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061415174c1a1fa2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061415174c1a1fa2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>on my car radio this afternoon that some of his fans are >>likening his acquittal to the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. >> >> >What does this MEAN????? > > The snippet I heard said that these people considered it as important an event as the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. I don't remember what I was listening to (as in what program -- it was NPR). This was mid-afternoon when I was on my way to the liquor store, where I bought a huge amount of wine for a party that may have only a small number of attendees. I have no idea how many people are coming. But wine keeps. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:20:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENK0ee003456 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:20:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:20:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBDACB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:19:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3202126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:20:00 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ENK0WQ026690 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:20:00 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614231959.HAAK2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:19:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614231959.MBRV8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:19:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF661B.5030403@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:19:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before the page may fade away References: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> <961306756.20050614092453@gailndan.com> <42AF5B2C.1060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061415366a579906@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061415366a579906@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>And "land o goshens." >> >> >I don't think there's an s at the end--Goshen is a place. > > That was a typo. I don't know exactly how to spell the expression since it's one I've heard/said, not read/written. But there's no s on the end. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:22:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENM0ee003644 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:22:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:22:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBDAD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:22:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3202168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:22:00 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ENM0kQ027203 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:22:00 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.182.195]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614232159.HBLN2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:21:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.182.195]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050614232159.MCJA8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:21:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF6693.3050404@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:21:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before the page may fade away References: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> <961306756.20050614092453@gailndan.com> <42AF5B2C.1060500@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061415366a579906@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061415366a579906@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: Then again, maybe some people DO say "land-o-goshens" -- sort of like saying Krogers instead of Kroger. I started pondering that after sending that reply. But "land-o-goshen" is what I've said/heard. Don't remember having heard goshens. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:44:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENhpee006153 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:43:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:44:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBDB7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:43:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3203464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:43:51 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ENhoh5030094 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:43:50 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112984049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:43:49 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050614164430.02de0e80@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:45:13 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <42AF65B9.7090505@maynor.net> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061415174c1a1fa2@mail.gmail.com> <42AF65B9.7090505@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:18 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote: >A Friend of Andy wrote: > >>>on my car radio this afternoon that some of his fans are >>>likening his acquittal to the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. >>> >>What does this MEAN????? >> >The snippet I heard said that these people considered it as important an >event as the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. I don't remember what I >was listening to (as in what program -- it was NPR). This was >mid-afternoon when I was on my way to the liquor store, where I bought a >huge amount of wine for a party that may have only a small number of >attendees. I have no idea how many people are coming. But wine keeps. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I heard it on the news as something he referred to on his web page which they gave as http://mjjsource.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:45:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENj1ee006281 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:45:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:45:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBDB89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:45:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3203551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:45:01 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ENj04s030277 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:45:01 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005061423445901400hnqaie>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:45:00 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:44:57 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? No thanks. Just have them send an email to the list. :D --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:52:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENqDee007085 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:52:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:52:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBDB97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:52:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3203374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:52:13 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5ENgBPD029837 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:42:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 49541 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 23:42:11 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:42:11 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 05:48:48PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >You don't think that the damn certificate is unreadable > >because of laughably insufficient lighting, or something? > >Naaaah. It must have been Canon's rumored-about s3kr1t > >optimization of the FFT that produces wild artifacts > >in a one in a million worst-case. That must be it. > > > The picture as an example made sense only in the context of the picture > taken with the old camera of the same certificate with the same lighting > etc. The one taken with the old camera was readable. I cannot help but admire the effrontery of invoking "context" in this thread--where the letter L in the "context" of S and M cannot be interpreted correctly. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:52:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENqmee007134 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:52:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:52:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBDB9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:52:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3203387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:52:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5ENgi9P029957 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:42:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 49643 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 23:42:43 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:42:43 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? Message-ID: <20050614234243.GB46256@words-l.org> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061415174c1a1fa2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:55:21PM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: > > on my car radio this afternoon that some of his fans are > > > > likening his acquittal to the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. > > > > What does this MEAN????? > > Karen > > > > Both are momentous occasions celebrating justice restored. Perhaps you have to take it in context. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 18:58:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ENvwee007641 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:57:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:58:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBDB7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:57:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3203676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:57:58 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5ENlu1l030565 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:47:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 51790 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 23:47:56 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:47:56 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie Message-ID: <20050614234756.GC46256@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705061309111b117a3f@mail.gmail.com> <42AE3046.9030005@maynor.net> <20050614184109.GB86488@words-l.org> <42AF6131.90101@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AF6131.90101@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 05:58:57PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>This picture is obscene! > >> > >>http://www.noahs.com/Resources/Images/TakeYourDogBanner.gif > >> > >> > >Let's write to the Clarion-Ledger ... > > > > > You may do so. There's a link for letters on their website. I don't have an angry, injured, offended, slighted, smarting or seething tone. Plus, I am DISGUSTED with the PRESS. They will obviously twist it around and make me--ME--look like the evil guy. God forbid the PRESS would ever say a good word about simple honest good people. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 19:12:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F0CIee009437 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:12:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:12:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBDBEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:02:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3203833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:02:18 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5ENqGFO030939 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:52:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 54302 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Jun 2005 23:52:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:52:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... Message-ID: <20050614235215.GD46256@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> <42AF638A.5040701@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AF638A.5040701@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:08:58PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >"application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as > >an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the > >user"? > > > No. But I'm a non-techy mutant who is perhaps very much wrong in having > thought of the terms "application" and "program" (at least in some > contexts) as pretty much synonymous and thus "application program" > redundant. Isn't an application a program that is on a > computer for some task? The word was used to distinguish it from "system(s) program". The distinction follows the one the between the "user" and the "administrator". Since gmail revolutionized interpersonal communication, fewer and fewer people have run complete, self- contained email programs or editors on machines administrated by others. Hence, the term is obsolete. Alas! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 19:14:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F0Edee009650 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:14:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:14:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBDC04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:14:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3205135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:14:38 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F0EZbI000717 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:14:38 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005061500143501400hnr6ie>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:14:35 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Do you ever say... Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:14:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > "application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as > an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the > user"? Never. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 19:26:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F0Qeee011155 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:26:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:26:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBDCA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:26:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3205289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:26:39 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F0GdjR001007 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:16:39 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050615001638m9100ngf2ge>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:16:39 +0000 Message-ID: <01c501c5713f$8330a9d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:16:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: OK, he's from Texas A&M (aka dumb Aggie) and served under Bush (AND works in Dallas). But what if he's right? Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: Nut job of the day > The REAL reasons the World Trade Center came down....it wasn't the > damn planes after all.... > > http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 19:34:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F0YNee011955 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:34:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:34:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067E5C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:34:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3206520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:34:22 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F0YKhZ002761 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:34:20 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005061500341901300t3mige>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:34:19 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Nut job of the day Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:34:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <01c501c5713f$8330a9d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Cheers, > > Dave Welcome to the list, Dave. You're the first new subscriber in a while who has had the guts to say anything. This is a good sign. --Adam List Owner From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 19:36:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F0a4ee012152 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:36:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:36:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBDD07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:36:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3205705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:35:59 -0400 Received: from post3.inre.asu.edu (post3.inre.asu.edu [129.219.113.218]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F0Pxf7001826 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:25:59 -0400 Received: from conversion.post3.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0II300L01NN0PY@asu.edu> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:21:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.110.107]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) with ESMTP id <0II300L1NNN0J2@asu.edu> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:21:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [149.169.182.174] ([149.169.182.174]) by smtp.asu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/asu_smtp_relay,nullclient,tcp_wrapped) with ESMTP id j5F0Kxj6011418 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:20:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:20:59 -0700 From: Hank Harken Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-reply-to: <20050614235215.GD46256@words-l.org> To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <20050615002059.7357@smtp.asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20050614235215.GD46256@words-l.org> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:08:58PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> >"application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as >> >an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the >> >user"? >> >> >> No. But I'm a non-techy mutant who is perhaps very much wrong in having >> thought of the terms "application" and "program" (at least in some >> contexts) as pretty much synonymous and thus "application program" >> redundant. Isn't an application a program that is on a >> computer for some task? > >The word was used to distinguish it from "system(s) program". >The distinction follows the one the between the "user" and >the "administrator". Since gmail revolutionized interpersonal >communication, fewer and fewer people have run complete, self- >contained email programs or editors on machines administrated >by others. Hence, the term is obsolete. Alas! I don't think it's obsolete. At least, not yet. Many people can't tolerate web-based email having experienced good email clients (I'm not including Outlook or Entourage as being "good" email clients). Besides, you can use email clients with a gmail account. Take a look at the "features" link. You can access gmail via POP. - Hank From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 19:52:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F0qlee013727 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:52:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:52:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBDD42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:52:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3207577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:52:46 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F0qk63004150 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:52:46 -0400 Received: from [151.199.52.235] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 94830988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:52:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF7BE3.1000609@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:52:51 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: > "application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as > an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the > user"? Just about every day, but I was "raised" in a mainframe environment and we still have a heavy mainframe presence. Nobody in our shop who has never worked on a mainframe has ever said it in my presence. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 20:31:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F1V9ee017709 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:31:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:31:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBDE36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:31:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3208887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:31:09 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F1V82t007172 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:31:08 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050615013108m9100nhdhhe>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:31:08 +0000 Message-ID: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:31:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam: I don't know if that's guts or being a cyber-blabbermouth. :-) BTW, I'm just down the road from where Rockwell's think tank is at Auburn. Well, in the same state at least. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Hartfield" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day >> Cheers, >> >> Dave > > Welcome to the list, Dave. You're the first new subscriber in a while who > has had the guts to say anything. This is a good sign. > > --Adam > List Owner > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 20:38:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F1cQee018364 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBDE4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3209118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:25 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F1cPCk007962 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:25 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615013824.REUY13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.224]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615013819.EKQS1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:19 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:33:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>gallery, which included that picture along with at least one more of >>this bunch of pictures, vanished?) -- Natalie >> >> >Sure. Mention it again. But this time track down the person who did the >dastardly deed of losing the gallery. > > Why? What difference does the identity make? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 20:38:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F1cQee018366 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067E6A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3209128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:25 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F1cPRF007966 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:25 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615013824.REUX13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.224]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615013820.EKQW1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF8684.3060005@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? >> >> > >No thanks. Just have them send an email to the list. :D > > That's a thought. I should include the list address when I send the checks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 20:38:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F1cRee018368 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067E85F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3209123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:25 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F1cPTQ007963 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:25 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615013824.REUW13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.224]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615013820.EKQT1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:37:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >I cannot help but admire the effrontery of invoking "context" >in this thread--where the letter L in the "context" of S and M >cannot be interpreted correctly. > > Quite the contrary. In the "context" of clothes or milkshakes, the S-M-L split makes sense. But in the "context" of "low resolution" vs "high resolution" L to me would indicate low. I don't know how camera-makers use the terms. Will look at the manual when I have time, which isn't going to be right away. But I do think that there's a problem when L in the context of low-high resolution means high. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 20:40:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F1eEee018523 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:40:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:40:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBDE09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:40:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3209229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:40:14 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F1eENp008251 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:40:14 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615014014.RILG13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:40:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.224]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615014013.ELOF1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:40:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF86F9.50900@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:40:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >Welcome to the list, Dave. You're the first new subscriber in a while who >has had the guts to say anything. This is a good sign. > > But we've had two postings from newbies tonight, haven't we? We need to get into serious matters like egg-slots. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 20:44:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F1iAee019060 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:44:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:44:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBDE13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:44:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3209305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:44:10 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F1hk2u008494 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:43:46 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.224]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615014346.RPHQ13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:43:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.224]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615014345.ENEW1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:43:45 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:43:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> In-Reply-To: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU David Guy Fetzer wrote: > BTW, I'm just > down the road from where Rockwell's think tank is at Auburn. Well, in the > same state at least. Down the road from Auburn? Lee County? Russell County? I was romping in graves there just a week or so ago. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:20:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F2KCee023338 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:20:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:20:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067EEF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:20:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3221596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:04:24 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F24OaM011443 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:04:24 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005061502042301300t3k02e>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 02:04:23 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Do you ever say... Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:04:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050615002059.7357@smtp.asu.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't think it's obsolete. At least, not yet. > Many people can't tolerate web-based email having experienced > good email clients (I'm not including Outlook or Entourage as > being "good" email clients). > > Besides, you can use email clients with a gmail account. > Take a look at the "features" link. You can access gmail > via POP. > > - Hank Another new poster! Welcome, Hank. As for mail, give me back VMS mail. That was my favorite, followed by elm. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:32:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F2Wiee024268 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:32:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:32:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0067F17B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:22:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3223304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:22:33 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F2MXXx013151 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:22:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so2033068wri for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.22.33 with SMTP id 33mr3606663wrv; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:22:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hiq36YUQ3/2uVJs2QAOvPWPXFTp/+Y4jEqQrpEq7bvWWiPO1hbP9TDsIU6djKrp0pVNLljHQrleIGANg+VsKbXXrzjUPudqUBkdypTn9/G8Pb9A0Y8wqzp9zqKR65iHH/8p7b/9WC9IGwxdYe2n54ZafSQWN7Nuvdz5asSCQatM= Message-ID: <83db447a0506141922243793c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:22:32 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5F2Wiee024268 On 6/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Quite the contrary. In the "context" of clothes or milkshakes, the > S-M-L split makes sense. But in the "context" of "low resolution" vs > "high resolution" L to me would indicate low. That is where you are in error. The L-M-S designations do not refer to the degree of resolution but rather to size of the image file, i.e., the number of pixels or the number of MB in the image file---so as the size of image file increases, so does the level of resolution. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:32:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F2Wiee024270 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:32:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:32:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067EFF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:29:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3223805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:29:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F2TqPg013988 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:29:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so97766nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.15 with SMTP id n15mr3075957nzc; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:29:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WnzBNdNyeRS65zrE6saVwpgIdTbcBfg9j+DUDH7qLlJMOGFQA2Wwq4vFXbwl9hqN/tf7AAaM/tIA9iuU7XnfZOULo5QZCSi6wqz2cZm6Hsv8ddXrl8gol0Hn+/AUB4cjnv2RrmKF7S3I6XSc58fy8vqRjq9lPd/mqB+gzEgBWw8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061419293e8d00f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:29:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061415174c1a1fa2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5F2TqPg013989 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > on my car radio this afternoon that some of his fans are > > > > likening his acquittal to the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. > > > > What does this MEAN????? > > Karen > > > > Both are momentous occasions celebrating justice restored. OHMYGOD. Not. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:54:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F2sNee027684 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBE7DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:41:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3224531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:41:30 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F2fTH2015269 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:41:29 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.224]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615024129.DGMH28298.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:41:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.224]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615024128.JTUZ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:41:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:41:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >>Why? What difference does the identity make? >> >> > Well, given how you have gone on about this, I suppose some have presumed >that you want to hunt down the culprit and kill him/her. > > Not at all. I don't care in any way who the culprit was. The loss of the files, however, is of extreme interest to me. I was and am still devastated since I had not expected that they would vanish. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:54:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F2sNee027683 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBE772@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:24:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3223504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:24:21 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F2OKJK013430 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:24:20 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1580467wra for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.33.44 with SMTP id g44mr3588998wrg; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:24:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HTlNY+ERFs5Thogs75/adQf/UMJy3Z4wRynmxYzaKoh6IOTHgBhY6yBh32P39KryaaGxIhLKCrLZU/MlpIdhSfQcNrXv0RvtpWznR6bSYetTE1mLwoZjW4H75jS2SNm/HVSF/MIePAAEFu3ni5cmbS9d7pizy9tIIFL8UPf6g90= Message-ID: <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:24:20 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5F2sNee027683 On 6/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Why? What difference does the identity make? Well, given how you have gone on about this, I suppose some have presumed that you want to hunt down the culprit and kill him/her. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:54:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F2sNee027687 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBE7F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:42:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3224587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:42:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F2g6M2015352 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:42:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so107319nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.20 with SMTP id t20mr3791977nzt; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:42:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tzf7q1yuIeX4yi9s+wZFhc3wRN/oKGh6Rh5KT7L31pTNg2Zo1beZvrs5m8rvUedoAAtOBXmppSZA+hqC6Ag6T0x23WPpIiw6rq1M1G9+bhGZwpEVAwLuDQNEj5HlgRsuPuWEQ8w47ulbUvZqXKc4Y4VBmAfxXDcYMZmWNEAaqLo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061419423815d146@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:42:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <42AF94BC.10406@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <83db447a0506141922243793c6@mail.gmail.com> <42AF94BC.10406@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5F2g6M2015353 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't feel at all > mutant for having thought that when people were talking about "low" and > high," L would stand for low. Wouldn't you have thought that there would be an H somewhere in there? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:54:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F2sNee027685 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBE7D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:39:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3224416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:39:05 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F2d2I8014981 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:39:02 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.224]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615023902.DEAJ28298.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:39:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.224]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615023902.JSLL25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:39:02 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF94BC.10406@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:38:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <83db447a0506141922243793c6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506141922243793c6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >>Quite the contrary. In the "context" of clothes or milkshakes, the >>S-M-L split makes sense. But in the "context" of "low resolution" vs >>"high resolution" L to me would indicate low. >> >> > That is where you are in error. The L-M-S designations do not refer to the >degree of resolution but rather to size of the image file, i.e., the number >of pixels or the number of MB in the image file---so as the size of image >file increases, so does the level of resolution. > > Yes, that is quite clear to me now. That's why I said a little while ago that "size" would be a better term if, as you say, the L-M-S designations refer to the size of the image file. I don't feel at all mutant for having thought that when people were talking about "low" and high," L would stand for low. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:54:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F2sNef027684 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBE7EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:43:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3224658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:43:53 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F2hr3m015458 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:43:53 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.224]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615024353.DITQ28298.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:43:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.224]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615024352.JVCA25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:43:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42AF95E4.7000408@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:43:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <83db447a0506141922243793c6@mail.gmail.com> <42AF94BC.10406@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061419423815d146@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061419423815d146@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>I don't feel at all >>mutant for having thought that when people were talking about "low" and >>high," L would stand for low. >> >> >Wouldn't you have thought that there would be an H somewhere in there? > > Of course. That is what started this discussion of the letters. I said that I could not find an H. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:54:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F2sNef027683 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBE828@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:54:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3225590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:54:39 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F2scF9016586 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:54:38 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 113020695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:54:38 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050614195319.01d14d10@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:54:37 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Grissom In-Reply-To: <200505261753.j4QHra03000423@sm.luth.se> References: <200505261753.j4QHra03000423@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This was downloaded on my laptop when we were in Monterey and I just read it now. Thanks for sending, Torkel. I really enjoyed it. What a great adventure! Betty At 10:53 AM 5/26/2005, you wrote: >Marcia took a picture of Brad: > >http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/dikter/brad.html > >Brad once wrote that not a day went by without his thinking of his >southern odyssey with Marcia: > >http://www.words-l.org/whtm/bg/brad-marcia-brad.htm > >http://www.words-l.org/whtm/mf/mftravel.html > >The "evil twin" sobriquet derives from Brad's sister Kay, who when I >met her and her daughter and husband in Stockholm immediately noted >that I was Brad's twin. > >I never met Brad. His death is a big lump of sadness to me. Marcia and >I have both lost a little bit of our attachment to this world. It's a >brush with the sense of life of very old people whose friends are all >dead and gone. In the last message Brad wrote to me, he said that >things were fine in Lexington. "In less than two years, I have lost >my mother, my father, my dog, my best drinking buddy, not to mention >Gregory Peck et al. It is all part of God's plan, is it not?" > >The cats have recently taken to studying Buddhism and chanting the >prajnaparamitra mantra ("The cat version is always better"). This >is because they tend to follow Marcia's interests. They say, on >hearing of the death of Marcia's friend: > >No ignorance and also no ending of ignorance to no old age and death >and also no ending of old age and death. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 21:54:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F2sNee027686 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:54:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBE756@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:31:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3223916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:31:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F2Vm3t014207 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:31:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so98539nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.19 with SMTP id m19mr3881483nzm; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:31:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hf/wTXRNA8hQAamnPD4PulJrM9KzSNPJjAEDhzhTkxb8BSgZN51q8PWzfFtXhwZYTzfA52phX2iuovlAzf1L0yLeN3S3CaRzbsjrpGplu32KqbRiKR78q/7IhF1HbF2Hyy5Rfeak67ZQaHtorm1uFofLtXym/Zhg/QIA99Q79hg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061419311e3bf613@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:31:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050614164430.02de0e80@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061415174c1a1fa2@mail.gmail.com> <42AF65B9.7090505@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614164430.02de0e80@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5F2Vm3t014209 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Betty Clark wrote: > I heard it on the news as something he referred to on his web page which > they gave as > > http://mjjsource.com/ Thank you! My officemate and I actually spent time looking for this this afternoon. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:05:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F35Cee028880 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:05:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:05:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBE86C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:55:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3225656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:55:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F2tBcb016676 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:55:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so107853nzp for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.47.15 with SMTP id u15mr1394235nzu; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:55:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Pxp9dFN1x0zd+HMAckHNKmYW199qCah5T69/JnRBmej0V3cCAFHjIDwYbqbbQJf0wnvnVZ10XgodDtp+fq5nU0V6eyAOOxtQfz7dW2TnPfVBhUpEMCQe6O7B46bu4GqzjDAUgSk/M1WM6apr+NrNZsF5efQxQQyOkXGINJ4tMQ8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506141955149f203b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:55:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5F2tBcb016677 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > The loss of > the files, however, is of extreme interest to me. I was and am still > devastated since I had not expected that they would vanish. Have you tried to assist in recreating them? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:06:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F36Aee028901 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:06:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:06:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBEA66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:06:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3230196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:06:09 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5F368xe019028 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:06:09 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061505042501326 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:04:25 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:06:06 +0200 Message-ID: <42AF9B1F.2030104@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:06:07 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Greetings from Victoria References: <200506111947.j5BJl9tE011972@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506111947.j5BJl9tE011972@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2005 03:06:07.0136 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C6CFA00:01C57157] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The campus here is full of half-tame rabbits! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:37:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F3awee031646 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:36:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:37:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBEBDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:36:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3232649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:36:58 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F3avFd021761 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:36:57 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23132798 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:37:15 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:37:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:36:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1597558104.20050614213656@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=81718, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU hell no 6/14/2005, 3:36 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> "application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as AFoA> an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the AFoA> user"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:37:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F3bNee031668 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:37:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:37:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBEBDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:37:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3231777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:37:23 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F3RNN0020890 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:27:23 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5F3R1bD012013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:27:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:27:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: water Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben: Florida golf courses apparently use about 11 million gallons (42 million liters) per month PER GOLF COURSE That water is recycled and nonpotable, of course. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:39:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F3dUee031739 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:39:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:39:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0067F3BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:39:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3232835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:39:25 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F3dOhu021966 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:39:24 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23065434 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:48:47 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:39:50 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:39:23 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <276343869.20050614213923@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=95568, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 4:04 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I heard on my car radio this afternoon that some of NM> his fans are NM> likening his acquittal to the tearing down of the NM> Berlin Wall. Undoubtedly so. There were fans there, Japanese, apparently FROM Japan, with signs and such. And some local woman was on the news showing the first class ticket she'd bought for the next morning (all that was available) so that she could "show her support". Said she cleaned out her bank account for the trip. Takes all kinds I guess. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:41:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F3evee031863 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:40:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:41:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBEBBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:40:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3232928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:40:57 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F3eu1L022153 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:40:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23065583 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:50:19 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:41:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:40:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1601001951.20050614214055@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: no receipts/no mailing lists, please In-Reply-To: <42AF59C4.7030708@maynor.net> References: <1884617268.20050614091815@gailndan.com> <42AF59C4.7030708@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=95570, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 4:27 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I hope you send them in a more timely fashion than NM> the MSU library NM> apparently does. This is funny timing because just NM> today I got a nice NM> letter from the MSU library thanking me for NM> contributing four books. BSU sends them monthly. A routine duty for some library asst in gifts dept every month. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:42:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F3gEee032084 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:42:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:42:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBEC11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:42:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3232979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:42:14 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F3gDTg022218 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:42:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22885178 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:05:06 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:42:39 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:42:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <144203341.20050614214212@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Camera Resolution In-Reply-To: <42AF5C16.6080806@maynor.net> References: <42AEF9DF.709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061408431f81d161@mail.gmail.com> <42AF5C16.6080806@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82734, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 4:37 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I do in many contexts -- like clothes, milkshakes, NM> etc. But when I've NM> been hearing people talking about "low resolution" NM> vs "high resolution," NM> I naturally would think L=low. (As I said earlier, NM> I have perhaps heard NM> only mutants talking about such matters.) Understand the confusion. But considering the translation and whatever, they obviously thought it meant LARGE image, which it does, since the image has many more pixels and thus is larger on the screen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:43:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F3hQee032158 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:43:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:43:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067F4DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:43:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3233125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:43:25 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F3hOCQ022359 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:43:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23133442 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:43:43 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:43:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:43:23 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1723402164.20050614214323@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=81720, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 4:41 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> (Shall I mention that NM> I'm po'ed that the NM> gallery, which included that picture along with at NM> least one more of NM> this bunch of pictures, vanished?) Well, if you want to try to resurrect another dead bird. Usual danger of assuming that someone else will do something that is important to you, as they may not think it is important to them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:45:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F3j6ee032295 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:45:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:45:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBEC26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:45:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3233140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:45:06 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F3j4jE022464 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:45:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22885497 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:07:57 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:45:30 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:45:02 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1786464048.20050614214502@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Check Question In-Reply-To: <42AF5DED.1070705@maynor.net> References: <42AF0094.5050000@maynor.net> <1635367312.20050614102156@gailndan.com> <42AF5DED.1070705@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82737, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 4:45 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Does this mean there's no difference between an NM> endorsed and an NM> unendorsed check? Like I could just mail the check NM> that was made out to NM> Natalie Maynor and expect the Lee County Library to NM> be able to claim the NM> money? If so, I can't see that mailing a check is NM> any different from NM> mailing cash. Some bean counter at the library might not pass it on that way, but I'll bet most banks won't catch it in a large deposit. When our checks were stolen and washed the thieves made fake IDs to match their sigs on my checks, but unlike the "olden days" no human ever saw the sig at the bank to recognize it as not mine. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:53:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F3r5ee000134 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:53:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:53:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FBEC24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:53:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3233771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:53:05 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F3r4aw023229 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:53:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23066791 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:02:28 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:53:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:53:04 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1962914901.20050614215304@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <01c501c5713f$8330a9d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> <01c501c5713f$8330a9d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=95575, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 6:16 PM, David Guy Fetzer wrote: DGF> OK, he's from Texas A&M (aka dumb Aggie) and served DGF> under Bush (AND works in DGF> Dallas). But what if he's right? Then let him prove it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:56:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F3uBee000501 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:56:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:56:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067F536@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:56:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3234030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:56:10 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F3uAHC023560 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:56:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22886582 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:19:02 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:56:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:56:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82741, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 7:33 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Sure. Mention it again. But this time track down >>the person who did the >>dastardly deed of losing the gallery. >> >> NM> Why? What difference does the identity make? Also, it may not have been lost intentionally. Servers have crashed without adequate backups, stuff has been left on servers after people have departed institutions, and when they next rebuild/convert stuff they only move it for current users who ask to have it done. etc, etc. Call it negligence if you wish, but it is negligence that we all contributed to, since NONE of us apparently took the initiative to think that we should assume some personal responsibility for saving it to some local source. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 22:59:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F3x8ee000875 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:59:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:59:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBECB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:59:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3234315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:59:08 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F3x7R0023844 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:59:07 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22886877 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:22:00 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:59:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:59:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <896449979.20050614215906@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82745, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 8:41 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Not at all. I don't care in any way who the culprit NM> was. The loss of NM> the files, however, is of extreme interest to me. I NM> was and am still NM> devastated since I had not expected that they would NM> vanish. Well, think of it as someone's house burning down with their important memorabilia inside. Shit happens. In one case no one made a backup. In the other, they didn't rent a safety deposit box or something. We have a number of things in safe dep box, but a number of others we have copies in our offices, figuring the office and the house won't both be destroyed at once....well, if we're nuked, but then we won't care. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 23:28:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F4SNee003882 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:28:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:28:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067F735@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 0:28:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3239259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:27:52 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F4Rlsl027205 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:27:51 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5F4RXB0020931 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:27:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:27:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do Y'all Want Receipts? [Was Re: Att: Kristin] In-Reply-To: <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AE40AD.80806@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > That's something I was going to ask about again -- I think I mentioned > it briefly earlier. I want to know whether y'all think it should just > say "from Words-L" -- with no names listed. The names are on the > individual checks, of course, but I could tell the library in the > accompanying note that the individuals who wrote those checks do not > want acknowledgements. I would of course give my address so that we'd > have some kind of general acknowledgement to make sure it arrived safely. > > Do any of you want personal acknowledgements/receipts from the library? I know you probably haven't received my check yet, but ... I don't need a personal acknowledgement. Given that I have many other things to donate money to around here (being a local politico after all), it would be fiscally useless to add me to their mailing list. However, if they did, I would not complain about it. If the newsletter was interesting, I might read it occasionally, and even learn from it. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 23:33:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F4XYee004523 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:33:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:33:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FBEF7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 0:33:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3239840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:33:34 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F4XXlr027812 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:33:33 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050615043333m92008hpije>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:33:33 +0000 Message-ID: <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:33:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: Been through there but actually I'm in Baldwin Co.on the other side of Mobile Bay. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day > David Guy Fetzer wrote: > >> BTW, I'm just >> down the road from where Rockwell's think tank is at Auburn. Well, in the >> same state at least. > > Down the road from Auburn? Lee County? Russell County? I was romping > in graves there just a week or so ago. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 14 23:54:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F4s4ee006383 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:54:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:54:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0067F87C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 0:54:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3241468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:54:04 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F4s46U029908 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:54:04 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050615045403m92008iat5e>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:54:03 +0000 Message-ID: <022401c57166$450b52a0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> <01c501c5713f$8330a9d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <1962914901.20050614215304@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:54:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: Fair enough! Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:53 PM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day > 6/14/2005, 6:16 PM, David Guy Fetzer wrote: > > DGF> OK, he's from Texas A&M (aka dumb Aggie) and served > DGF> under Bush (AND works in > DGF> Dallas). But what if he's right? > > Then let him prove it. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 00:10:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F5A1ee009068 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:10:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:10:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBF0F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 1:10:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3242805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:10:00 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F59xWv031342 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:10:00 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5F59xnS025137 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:09:59 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5F59wXJ025135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:09:58 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:09:58 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = the porch rail at Clambake. (Shall I mention that I'm po'ed that the = gallery, which included that picture along with at least one more of = this bunch of pictures, vanished?) Perhaps I'll remind you of the salient detail that you are the one who deleted them without first checking if they were secured. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 02:13:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5F7D6ee021290 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 02:13:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 02:13:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FBF623@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 3:13:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3253119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:13:05 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5F7D3iH009417 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:13:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5F7D32Y025719 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:13:03 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5F7D2Nq025717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:13:02 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:13:02 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615071302.GA25701@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:24:20PM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: = On 6/14/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: = > = > Why? What difference does the identity make? = = Well, given how you have gone on about this, I suppose some have presumed = that you want to hunt down the culprit and kill him/her. = cwv he heee! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:57:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FAv6ee015414 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:57:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:57:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC031B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 6:57:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3277385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:57:05 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FAv5cB029346 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:57:05 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.59]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615105705.POMI26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:57:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.59]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615105705.CWUW29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:57:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0097C.30609@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:57:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506141955149f203b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506141955149f203b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>The loss of >>the files, however, is of extreme interest to me. I was and am still >>devastated since I had not expected that they would vanish. >> >> > >Have you tried to assist in recreating them? > > I've asked whether anybody anywhere has some of the lost pictures. I don't know how else to assist. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 05:59:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FAxRee015650 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:59:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:59:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0326@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 6:59:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3277474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:59:26 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FAxQaG029541 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:59:26 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.59]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615105926.PPCP26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:59:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.59]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615105926.CXGL29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:59:26 -0400 Message-ID: <42B00A09.1060706@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:59:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> <896449979.20050614215906@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <896449979.20050614215906@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Well, think of it as someone's house burning down with their important >memorabilia inside. Shit happens. In one case no one made a backup. > > And if my house burned down with important memorabilia inside, I would be equally distraught. Iow, making that comparison doesn't affect my feelings. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:03:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FB3gee016227 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:03:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:03:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC02ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 7:03:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3277645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:03:41 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FB3fDJ021062 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:03:41 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.59]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615110341.PQPL26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:03:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.59]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615110341.CYBB29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:03:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:03:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >Perhaps I'll remind you of the salient detail that you are the one who >deleted them without first checking if they were secured. > > Why do I need to be reminded of that? It in no way changes the loss. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:04:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FB4fee016311 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:04:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:04:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC032E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 7:04:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3277692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:04:41 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FB4d41021121 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:04:40 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5FB4buY014279 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:37 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5FB4bIK014274 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:37 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5FB4adm006351 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:36 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5FB4akI006346 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:36 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j5FB4XwZ077564 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:35 +0900 Message-ID: <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> Subject: make myself understood/understand Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:19 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dear Wordslers, 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. I know 1) is a grammatical and acceptable sentence, but what about 2) and 3)? Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:11:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FBAnee017260 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:10:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:11:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0360@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 7:10:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3277934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:10:49 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FBAm1B021651 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:10:48 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.59]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615111048.PSVU26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:10:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.59]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615111048.CZOE29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:10:48 -0400 Message-ID: <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:10:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio wrote: > Dear Wordslers, > > 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. > 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. > 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. > > I know 1) is a grammatical and acceptable sentence, but what > about 2) and 3)? No to #2. It would not be grammatical/acceptable. But #3 might be used. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:21:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FBLhee018320 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:21:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:21:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006809C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 7:01:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3277583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:01:42 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FB1gv8020943 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:01:42 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.59]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615110142.PQBA26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:01:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.59]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615110142.CXQU29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:01:42 -0400 Message-ID: <42B00A91.1010103@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:01:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> In-Reply-To: <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU David Guy Fetzer wrote: > Been through there but actually I'm in Baldwin Co.on the other side of > Mobile Bay. The other side of Mobile Bay from Lee and Russell Counties?? I thought Baldwin Co. was on their side of the bay. In any case, welcome to Words-L! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:23:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FBNlee018498 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:23:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:23:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC0376@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 7:23:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3278259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:23:47 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FBNkBO022867 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:23:46 -0400 Received: from [129.44.176.199] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 96678788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:22:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42B00EE9.6000307@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:20:09 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tanaka Akio wrote: > >> Dear Wordslers, >> >> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. >> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. >> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. >> >> I know 1) is a grammatical and acceptable sentence, but what >> about 2) and 3)? > > > No to #2. It would not be grammatical/acceptable. But #3 might be used. > Yes, and I would add that #3 is not really natural sounding. I doubt that it is common. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 06:24:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FBOVee018619 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:24:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:24:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC038C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 7:24:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3278281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:24:31 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FBOUcM022903 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:24:30 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5FBOTVA026970 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:24:29 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5FBOTFw026968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:24:29 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:24:29 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615112429.GA26859@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 06:03:36AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = steph wrote: = = >Perhaps I'll remind you of the salient detail that you are the one who = >deleted them without first checking if they were secured. = > = > = Why do I need to be reminded of that? It in no way changes the loss. I dunno, I thought it my help you get over the loss. Natalie, it's stuff that got lost. Are you still bemoaning other stuff that got lost because of your own actions or inactions as frequently as these pictures? Everyone loses stuff. Most of us get over it. It worries me that this remains such an issue for you (but I know that you express things out of proportion compared to the extent that you really feel them). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 07:21:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FCLYee024932 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:21:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:21:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC04A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 8:21:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3280514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:21:29 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FCLRSa028591 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:21:28 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5FCLPkT015993 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:25 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5FCLO4Q015988 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:25 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5FCLOn8008054 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:24 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5FCLNfT008049 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:23 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j5FCLKwZ084332 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:23 +0900 Message-ID: <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: make myself understood/understand Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:05 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. >> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. >> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. >> >> I know 1) is a grammatical and acceptable sentence, but what >> about 2) and 3)? > > No to #2. It would not be grammatical/acceptable. But #3 might be used. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Thank you. Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 07:27:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FCRZee025802 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:27:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:27:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00680B02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 8:27:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3280780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:27:34 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FCRHhw029349 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:27:17 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.115.169]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615122717.BUGK22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:27:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.115.169]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615122717.KPAQ13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:27:17 -0400 Message-ID: <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:27:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio wrote: >>> >>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. >>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. >>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. >> > Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? You could say something like "I could hardly make them understand me in English" -- though that sounds a wee bit awkward to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 07:33:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FCXOee026614 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:33:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:33:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC049D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 8:23:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3280635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:23:23 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FCNN2a028810 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:23:23 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.115.169]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615122319.BSOZ22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:23:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.115.169]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615122319.KNZK13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:23:19 -0400 Message-ID: <42B01DB2.7010102@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:23:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <42B00EE9.6000307@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42B00EE9.6000307@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. >>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. >>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. >>> >>> I know 1) is a grammatical and acceptable sentence, but what >>> about 2) and 3)? >> >> No to #2. It would not be grammatical/acceptable. But #3 might be >> used. > > Yes, and I would add that #3 is not really natural sounding. I doubt > that it is common. Ditto. #3 . But I decided it might be something somebody would say -- it doesn't leap out as the way #2 does. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 07:33:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FCXOee026616 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:33:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:33:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC0469@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 8:25:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3280703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:25:19 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FCPJKX029090 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:25:19 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.115.169]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615122519.BTML22513.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:25:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.115.169]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615122519.KONK13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:25:19 -0400 Message-ID: <42B01E2A.1070307@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:25:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <20050615112429.GA26859@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050615112429.GA26859@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Are you still bemoaning other stuff that got lost >because of your own actions or inactions as frequently as these >pictures? > Of course. There are some losses that I think about far more often. Whole weeks, maybe longer, go by when I don't think about the Words-L picture gallery at all. I think about it when something comes up to remind me of it, in this case the search for pictures of Brad to send Stephanie in Kentucky. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 07:56:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FCuPee029304 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:56:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:56:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC05B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 8:56:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3282495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:56:18 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FCk55B000740 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:46:05 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5FCjf0M013463 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:45:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:46:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: greetings from Omaha Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My schedule is VERY busy, though as I walk from residence hall to library to class to dining-hall to class to St. John's church etc., I do have time to enjoy the weather (cool, slightly windy, occasional light showers), the flowers, the birds, the general beauty of a campus apparently always under construction. I am taking two courses (Ingatian Spiritual Exercises and Intro to Personal Counseling), each of which meets two hours a day M-F. My afternoon class will not meet on Friday (we go to see "Crash" that evening, instead), so I may be able to watch Tennessee play in the CWS game against FL. (It is on ESPN2 also - 1 p.m. - against FL.) The zoo is of course on my list; since it is near the stadium where the CWS is being played, I will wait until that is over before trying to organize a trip there (parking is apparently a mess in that area during the CWS). (I am not doing "grammar" this summer.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:04:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FD3hee030327 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:03:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:04:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC05D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 9:03:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3283800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:03:42 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FD3gBL003210 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:03:42 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so325587wri for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.156.4 with SMTP id d4mr3625941wre; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:03:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GOifRlMc/bnDmcSql6iszCsCeUvG1WQaHQ1GK2CbfefdHEAOGIxOWbNFfmgfINpB23EuH6kC3mJX8TAQCjhSOy25W1+oLzK77yvLAQInUvhW7fnhHvxC09O4YV3t2+CNq7U/Myob9oUmzOaq6zVeqZNsF3vSDuLsQKf+tA57y3M= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:03:41 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5FD3hee030327 > > >Sure. Mention it again. But this time track down the person who did the > >dastardly deed of losing the gallery. > > > > > Why? What difference does the identity make? > -- Natalie Because it might be a first step in recovering them. I'm still not convinced that somewhere out there doesn't indeed have a back up copy of the whole thing. I was sent a .jpg of my nun picture when I bemoaned having lost it and lost the scanner with which I made it. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:27:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FDRpee000534 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:27:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:27:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC06A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 9:27:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3285537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:27:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FDRorU006378 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:27:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so708786nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.42 with SMTP id u42mr3538332nzg; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:27:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hK8AOBs+CAJXXVDwOs384DV71tbeMw9Stb20SDbedH5qkaoU56iGncXUKPySE2y2cunuFAysMKxrXkVCSsn1AeGLckvrGEhInvSjMQkw1zMrrz9i9x9i2mqWP0b9+eL1tswUw9x3xkz9dw/7KN8+Ca5wtZFZx4nlq2cOfDuO8sU= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:27:50 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: water In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FDRorU006379 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That water is recycled and nonpotable, of course. 49% of it, yes. But the other 50% (a rounding anomaly, I suppose) came from surface waters and wells. (http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/FE344) Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:31:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FDVKee000754 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:31:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:31:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0701@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 9:31:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3285682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:31:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FDVIph006776 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:31:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so710943nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.60.18 with SMTP id i18mr4491964nza; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:31:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BJBJwiiZ7kYbdkdie/Lk/ajku7qE58fchcbI+oaHNGarXBTPc/qvUWkrRk+s3nyNBIpLEKfmt9I8VSoyZ8Pax0pdOOXPlnSgy4MZg9shy/Vsdfj7q8mowDTwmW2xXZQf37WY1fN7Vn1xqoSHtdskKSmLijfDqkEXt7NQCDjSss0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:31:18 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings from Victoria In-Reply-To: <42AF9B1F.2030104@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506111947.j5BJl9tE011972@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42AF9B1F.2030104@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FDVJph006778 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The campus here is full of half-tame rabbits! Ooo, I'd love to see that. We have rabbits who come out of their hutch and play (under supervision and in a rabbit-proofed room). Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:52:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FDqMee003458 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:52:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:52:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC077A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 9:52:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3286899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:52:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FDqL3C009824 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:52:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so374032nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.15 with SMTP id n15mr3416355nzc; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:52:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mMdwD0ZM2GTQcZqNycjv/p/G+JW6v0WdnEO1R06cphKkWSFw0x898zv9oPR83RwpKcpjbdYcbL4eXCxT8Lq1MgRudlERpHtvQE4QuC2iHTk9GRd7M0j9/6sNeiiaXaTf885G6+nQEnbnFIBRsKk4miK6ZxxbbA+8dF3KffdMLn8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061506524d1bd992@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:52:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FDqL3C009825 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tanaka Akio wrote: > > >>> > >>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. > >>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. > >>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. > >> > > Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? > > You could say something like "I could hardly make them understand me in > English" -- though that sounds a wee bit awkward to me. I rate it as more natural than #3. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:55:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FDsuee003880 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:54:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:55:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC07F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 9:54:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3287992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:54:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FDstV4010842 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:54:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so298318nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.74 with SMTP id u74mr3580148nzg; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:54:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uRg74Ql6uLYMpSr7XSx24wWbVo/3R1750pznIarLIa28E837RMAvo9cKBaW8wKfugx993RnQgmhBNQArNQtqJ3QPTZKAgFRwHXiMUPYCeLVzR3Y9ilNgXscvoA2qDCWf3YwB/NajREzq5U1ZR58+j+H9/wd/xCDNQ7jMgoTv79g= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:54:54 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FDstV4010846 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Been through there but actually I'm in Baldwin Co.on the other side of > Mobile Bay. In that case, you must know how good Bruno's pizza is. I have friends in Fairhope. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:55:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FDtRee003967 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:55:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:55:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC07CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 9:55:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:55:27 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FDtQM7011074 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:55:26 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:55:26 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:55:14 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: water Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The other 1% could be from the golfers themselves? BrP >>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 6/15/2005 9:27:50 AM >>> > That water is recycled and nonpotable, of course. 49% of it, yes. But the other 50% (a rounding anomaly, I suppose) came from surface waters and wells. (http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/FE344) Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 08:55:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FDtVee003978 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:55:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:55:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC081D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 9:55:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:55:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FDtUse011122 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:55:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so407505nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.106.17 with SMTP id e17mr4208093nzc; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:55:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M+dOP8Ih+bVoUGNafWN1P5iEJ5t8uDWUVveQgEqwVKwBD62Ocir4ppTY2BQ50A3WoZTFcT5w+J+r2hf5lM9aAeE4D2IMGBIIbqu4cCITm1HaiXnVg4wFGJRXHPLxK/ZwwTzNkbGwfrcSOzeEDu12x9LbMb1FeS+ApaE7kw2gW00= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061506557e42a00c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:55:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <276343869.20050614213923@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> <276343869.20050614213923@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FDtUse011125 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Undoubtedly so. There were fans there, Japanese, apparently FROM > Japan, with signs and such. Most of the stories I've heard about the fans make it sounds like the majority were from overseas. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 09:20:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FEJoee006872 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:19:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:20:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0844@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 9:59:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:59:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FDxUh2011791 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:59:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so300939nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.2.18 with SMTP id 18mr1295838nzb; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:59:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f4hKcf7+TnP01NWWcMOsTKHKCbpWjCs30sZagkARj8PB5If1yBzdtf1FMzE67N7XJHckKAOtrnzLtrjaW0UH1eX8gsBGIAaqjvrczbaVV6aTpOrMwbQ76asGefltLJPvttXousd52edseZoLXy5QHyC6bbxZxoqhVgkUEtaLh34= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:59:30 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: water In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FDxVh2011793 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The other 1% could be from the golfers themselves? Bravo! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 09:20:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FEJoee006876 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:19:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:20:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC08C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:13:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3289688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:13:32 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEDWPM014125 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:13:32 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22917903 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:36:29 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:13:58 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:13:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <102631771.20050615081330@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42B00A09.1060706@maynor.net> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> <896449979.20050614215906@gailndan.com> <42B00A09.1060706@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=82898, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 4:59 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> And if my house burned down with important memorabilia inside, I would NM> be equally distraught. Iow, making that comparison doesn't affect my NM> feelings. I know it doesn't. But the point was really that "shit happens" and at some point we have to "get over it" and "get on with our lives", even if it is death of a parent, kid or spouse....much less the loss of some nice memorabilia. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 09:20:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FEJoee006874 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:19:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:20:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC08A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:11:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3289429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:11:59 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEBx25013691 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:11:59 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23098012 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:21:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:12:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:11:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <839717746.20050615081157@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <022401c57166$450b52a0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> <01c501c5713f$8330a9d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <1962914901.20050614215304@gailndan.com> <022401c57166$450b52a0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=95720, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/14/2005, 10:54 PM, David Guy Fetzer wrote: DGF> Dan: DGF> Fair enough! Coming from a strong science and research background, I'm always open to alternative ideas, theories, etc. I followed a group on Flight 800 for a year or more....mainly the folks who were sure terrorists shot it down from the beach or a small boat, etc. And they're still convinced it wasn't from an electrical problem in the fuel tank that sparked the almost empty tank, which is what the FAA and others officially said. Doubt they'll ever be able to prove to the contrary. On that one I happen to believe the official one, mainly because they've come up with NO evidence of anyone seeing a rocket launch, seeing "strange people in a small boat", signs of "strangers on the beach", etc, etc, etc. But I'd gladly donate a hundred bucks to someone who could prove what happened with JFK assassination. But that one too would probably take "God's Own Videotape" (well, assume He's digital or beyond by now) to know for sure. One of my brothers is a freak on that topic....not that he has strong conclusions, but he's read about everything (and I know every book) that has ever come out on that day/event. As to who Deep Throat was, I never really cared. But on the JFK thing, not sure I'd even believe a "death bed confession" (assuming the people who did it (if not Oswald) are not dead and those who killed them aren't dead and so on....at some point you could get to a guy who killed someone unknown for some unknown reason...and all proof could be gone). I'll admit to being dubious from the beginning on the claims of the "cold fusion" guys from a few hundred miles south of me...and indeed they were sure wrong. But imagine it'll work out someday, probably after we're all long gone. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 09:21:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FELZee007059 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:21:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:21:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0926@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:21:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3290520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:21:35 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FELYXO015299 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:21:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23167182 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:21:53 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:22:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:21:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <254479017.20050615082133@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81876, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome back. I'd say number 1 is fine. Number 3 is acceptable but not the normal pattern of usage. Number 2 doesn't make sense. 6/15/2005, 5:04 AM, Tanaka Akio wrote: TA> Dear Wordslers, TA> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. TA> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. TA> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. TA> I know 1) is a grammatical and acceptable sentence, but what TA> about 2) and 3)? TA> Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 09:23:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FENkee007330 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:23:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:23:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC08E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:23:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3290648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:23:46 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FENkfZ015542 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:23:46 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 69CA972481097 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:23:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001601c571b5$cbdec240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200506111947.j5BJl9tE011972@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42AF9B1F.2030104@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Greetings from Victoria Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:23:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> The campus here is full of half-tame rabbits! > > Ooo, I'd love to see that. We have rabbits who come out of their > hutch and play (under supervision and in a rabbit-proofed room). > > Ben Our yard is overrun with rabbits. They eat our flowers and are a general nuisance. The whole neighborhoos is full of rabbits. A visitor from California couldn't believe her eyes when she saw them on our deck (are rabbits rare there?) Anyway, it's against the law to shoot them. A neighbor did shoot one the other day with a pellet gun and someone saw it and turned him in, and he was fined $150. As far as I know there is no legal way to control them, so they just keep multiplying. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:25:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMee011537 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC09CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:43:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:43:50 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEhlE7019048 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:43:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22922183 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:06:44 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:44:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:43:45 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <110799368.20050615084345@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The news from Canada In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=82934, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 8:35 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> How many years do you think it will be before there is an equivalent PB> story from the US ? At age 62 and in excellent health, I'm sure not counting on it in my lifetime. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:25:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMee011542 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC09A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:35:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:35:51 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEZpcA017544 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:35:51 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:35:50 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:35:25 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: The news from Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How many years do you think it will be before there is an equivalent story from the US ? BrP --------------------------------- Airbase hosts 1st military gay wedding Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:43:58 EDT CBC News Two men were married in the chapel at Nova Scotia's Greenwood airbase in May, in what's being called the Canadian military's first gay wedding. Lt.-Cmdr. David Greenwood, the base's head chaplain, said a sergeant and a warrant officer were married May 3 in front of about 45 guests. "This couple had been waiting a very long, long time," said Greenwood, declining to give their names because he hadn't asked for permission. In September, the Nova Scotia Supreme Court ruled that banning same-sex marriages is unconstitutional, effectively changing the definition of marriage in the province to "the lawful union of two persons to the exclusion of all others." The military has said it's willing to host gay weddings in jurisdictions where it's legal. Greenwood, an Anglican, did not perform the marriage but he did make the arrangements for the service while a United Church minister from nearby Wolfville performed the vows. "I looked after the co-ordination in accordance with our military policy of receiving the couple with dignity and respect," said Greenwood. "I was there to preach and welcome the community on behalf of the base chaplaincy." While most Anglican dioceses in Canada do not perform same-sex marriages, the Canadian church has postponed its official decision until 2007. Greenwood said the ceremony was relaxed and low-key, and there wasn't a dry eye in sight when the couple signed the marriage documents. Greenwood said he has been told that a second same-sex marriage may be in the works this year, at CFB Valcartier in Quebec. Same-sex marriage legal in 7 provinces, 1 territory In 2004, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Ottawa has exclusive jurisdiction to decide who has the right to get married in this country, but that religious groups are not obliged to perform unions against their beliefs. Federal politicians are now considering a same-sex marriage bill. Currently, same-sex marriages performed in seven provinces and one territory are legal and must be recognized. Same-sex marriages are not performed in Alberta, New Brunswick, P.E.I., Nunavut and the Northwest Territories, but the Nunavut government will recognize same-sex marriages performed elsewhere. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:25:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMee011543 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC0A7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:58:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3294269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:58:08 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEw7s2022125 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:58:08 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so151475rnf for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.66.68 with SMTP id o68mr2143616rna; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:58:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P5F88X99IODirw5qWjTBWKnvjA1HjZPRusV7Le1IWtflqLCzd+y2G3Gm8txbZQK15u7MZkkESS2ERDfjUy15bCSC+6jsinGfSwfm9CRzhBWmAAhmUAiwewC/0hyI31qKNtw9yGqi6AvM8l9ojArp3gcoiv5HvFLGOKhg9ZLGnbM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:58:07 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FEw8s2022126 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Why? What difference does the identity make? > > -- Natalie > > Because it might be a first step in recovering them. I'm still not > convinced that somewhere out there doesn't indeed have a back up copy of the > whole thing. I was sent a .jpg of my nun picture when I bemoaned having lost > it and lost the scanner with which I made it. I know we went through this long ago, but remind me please: surely all or most of these pictures were taken in the days before digital cameras were common, and therefore they were all/mostly images scanned from paper photos. Where are those paper pictures, or their negatives? Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:25:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMee011541 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0A61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:48:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:48:06 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEm5sD020309 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:48:06 -0400 Received: from D5MNK821 (c-67-188-190-150.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.188.190.150]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005061514480501400dml28e>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:48:05 +0000 Reply-To: From: "sandra" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Brad Pictures Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:48:05 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20050615112429.GA26859@yoccoz.multinix.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 06:03:36AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > = steph wrote: > = > = >Perhaps I'll remind you of the salient detail that you are the one who > = >deleted them without first checking if they were secured. > = > > = > > = Why do I need to be reminded of that? It in no way changes the loss. > > I dunno, I thought it my help you get over the loss. Natalie, it's > stuff that got lost. Are you still bemoaning other stuff that got lost > because of your own actions or inactions as frequently as these > pictures? Everyone loses stuff. Most of us get over it. It worries me > that this remains such an issue for you (but I know that you express > things out of proportion compared to the extent that you really feel > them). (steph) Losing stuff can be a hidden blessing. Once, while in a move, I lost an entire pickup truck full of my stuff including some precious momentos. Turns out they weren't so precious afterall. It's made it much easier to go without stuff. And easier on my pocketbook. Sandra From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMef011537 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC0B35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:07:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3295266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:07:42 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FF7Bji023791 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:07:11 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so153595rnf for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.150.33 with SMTP id x33mr264421rnd; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:07:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jMnTv9IjJsElzyBKJmlWgcEgAgOnIUTJRLckTszt7q4aKcz76J6jC/kZsVmZApfgt85HD6b0xYh6DB2PLTsiKy/r9WpWBuHLr1cX2RcgPXwCE1KDyNhskUtywr45grkTwpbHbm4XEC9fACzAJiSbKDGaVYgCCeFB3UuVzdAb2E8= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:07:07 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FF7Bji023792 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tanaka Akio wrote: > > >>> > >>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. > >>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. > >>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. > >> > > Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? > > You could say something like "I could hardly make them understand me in > English" -- though that sounds a wee bit awkward to me. It's more than awkward, I think. (1) and (3) are about making "myself" do something. Natalie's proposal is about making someone else ("them") do something, and while this largely means the same thing, it carries quite different baggage, e.g. the suggestion that the problem is their fault rather than mine. The problem with (2) is a low-level grammatical one; one could also say "make myself understandable" with not a huge change in meaning. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:25:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMee011544 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC0B04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:03:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3294869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:03:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FF3qsr023092 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:03:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so443541nzo for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.11 with SMTP id a11mr102877nzc; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:03:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QPlZdMCBib6GP47YIudvFmmqqhNl9Ip81dI9P03Ih91zZKq3urETG/ZjC1IsbkRj1HPd+VdwIfgLdBpZY+QZ7gflpBYHbNiKxbiHH8WIlbGG85e2yZESyhrtcqrXrOO/9xrlxYiDC1bgoV8wYDgQRKlrHQjDNeQPGDVd9mtl+dc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:03:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FF3qsr023094 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Two reasons. I've had the feeling that there has been some "finger > pointing" going on. Why do you put "finger-pointing" in quotes? I just did because I'm quoting you, but it weakens your statement. There was definitely bitchy passive aggressive finger-pointing going on--not so much this time, but before. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMef011544 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0CB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:39:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3298325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:39:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FFdWOb029141 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:39:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so357828nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.24 with SMTP id u24mr4550351nzg; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:39:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aPyok87uWInKpM9DLz28aalFrjOcl5u7h5a6PyavsKNouHnIVnyty3RbEcCS6cHOzbK2UmQvXkB7QHDUqzTjMa+thliDKIgqFMyPG1uRyYQwNVrc/fIu4xqIEUnEtsgoKgu/RJgHOBbWojT8YoeK/gJeJFA+nRinwfB8cvh8DJc= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:39:32 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050615002059.7357@smtp.asu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FFdXOb029145 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > As for mail, give me back VMS mail. That was my favorite, followed by elm. SET ADAM/STATUS="Geeky" Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMef011542 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC0BAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:13:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3296402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:13:54 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FFDr8V025549 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:13:53 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 62A89BE8C4; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58640C2849 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > You could say something like "I could hardly make them understand me in > English" -- though that sounds a wee bit awkward to me. As usual, you can make it sound better by adding something. How about: "I could hardly make them understand me in English, let alone in Nahuatl." Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMeg011537 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0D0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:47:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3299011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:47:11 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FFlBsD030418 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:47:11 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:47:10 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:46:39 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: saw this film ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU .. and I highly recommend it http://www.hidingandseeking.com/ BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMef011543 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC0C8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:37:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3298169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:37:05 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FFb4x1028855 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:37:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23110518 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:46:33 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:37:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:37:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=95788, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 9:03 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> On 6/15/05, Dan Lester wrote: >> Two reasons. I've had the feeling that there has been some "finger >> pointing" going on. AFoA> Why do you put "finger-pointing" in quotes? I just did because I'm AFoA> quoting you, but it weakens your statement. There was definitely AFoA> bitchy passive aggressive finger-pointing going on--not so much this AFoA> time, but before. I agree with you. I just put it in quotes trying to be "kind and gentle", I guess. As has been suggested in several of my comments to Natalie on this, there's an old saying that "when you point your finger at someone there are three fingers pointing back at you". But...an American of this day and age assume personal responsibility? Naaahhhh....not bloodly likely. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMeg011544 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC0D6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:08:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3300444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:08:09 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FG89cG000631 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:08:09 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-5.gwi.net [216.195.163.5]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5FG84uh035656; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:08:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:08:01 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:56 PM 6/14/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >.. Call it negligence if you wish, but it is negligence that we all >contributed to, What's this "we" shit, Kemo Sabe? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMeg011541 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC0DD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:19:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3301301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:19:52 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FGJq4S002115 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:19:52 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FGJm4W1548504 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:19:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:19:48 -0500 (CDT) From: because I can X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.2, Antispam-Data: 2005.6.15.15 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Ann Borkin wrote: > As usual, you can make it sound better by adding something. How about: I keep thinking of Jules in "Pulp Fiction". ENGLISH, ! DO... YOU... SPEAK IT? -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMeg011542 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC0CC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:48:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3299059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:48:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FFmFL4030550 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:48:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so446706nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.71 with SMTP id w71mr1720362nzg; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:48:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KPf6Te5AHMWWmE61kT/fip5vnc6FBiiPJ1s4gyLvhfUpPhmel4AZp9h9i/o+7ui01wit9pHHNqrCZSsohfR0hXhIoQU4zZ/tcui7d/4eHsHBWLrHLqTJO9rmB/YVPbtfoeLUECCbu+Q3SSHLBKdm23G/L4suT1TY2iZV6nfVrpI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:48:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FFmFL4030551 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 9:03 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> On 6/15/05, Dan Lester wrote: > >> Two reasons. I've had the feeling that there has been some "finger > >> pointing" going on. > > AFoA> Why do you put "finger-pointing" in quotes? I just did because I'm > AFoA> quoting you, but it weakens your statement. There was definitely > AFoA> bitchy passive aggressive finger-pointing going on--not so much this > AFoA> time, but before. > > I agree with you. I just put it in quotes trying to be "kind and > gentle", I guess. As has been suggested in several of my comments to > Natalie on this, there's an old saying that "when you point your finger > at someone there are three fingers pointing back at you". > > But...an American of this day and age assume personal responsibility? > Naaahhhh....not bloodly likely. To be perfectly fair, Natalie has admitted her responsibility. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMef011541 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC0BDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:18:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3296809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:18:48 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FFIlcK026305 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:18:47 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so156537rnf for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.61 with SMTP id a61mr32520rnb; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:18:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=V36gAaPOTRNBejD6mVMwcuWsmQx4QWhZf1vpg0Wt/VNxMjESW5L+CMymIio3TMGL9Jx4EkiEbOsHW2UMn5f0laYqfc/aInHF8INNLmCaJ+kJl2pUNF19vrsK7W1JU9RcqxJNMQHU+GVf+MXgn88hlGrRVyJzkh0MVuLv7uj+cVA= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:18:46 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506141514390dbf3b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> <42AF5400.1080107@istori.com> <8ddfc8a70506141514390dbf3b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FFIlcK026306 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/14/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I've got two really good SMEs who say it, so I'm trying to figure out > why. I think of it as an old fogey-ism, and I loathe it, so we > compromised, after arm-twisting on both sides, on "application > software", which is, according to Google, far more common. As long as you don't say "software program". I know I'm fighting a losing battle on this one, but it grates more than most. BTW, the other phrase common in the mainframe world was "problem program". This is "code" (another old buzzword) that performs actual work on the problem at hand (which might be text editing, emailing, or (historically more likely) numerical calculations, in contrast to the supervisor[y] program or operating system that manages the computing hardware and related resources. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMeh011542 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0F52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:00:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3303633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:00:00 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FGxx2V008060 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:59:59 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC0F3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:59:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200506151659.j5FGxx2V008060@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:59:59 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: was Re: Brad Pictures, now FEST To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:12:13 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >I'm off enjoying my bike again and then going for a walk. I received a >catalog for the Lake George Area yesterday. Larry's folks picked us up the >AAA book and I found Frommer's Guide Book to New York State. Time to start >planning. This is a vacation for us as well as list event. > YES! I finally got the webpage out of SocialText limbo... not that anyone who's coming hasn't seen all this, but - I feel better now that I can check it off my list. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMeg011543 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC0EEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:51:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3303063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:51:12 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FGoujs006795 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:50:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC0EB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:50:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200506151650.j5FGoujs006795@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:50:56 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:05 +0900, Tanaka Akio wrote: >>> >>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. >>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. >>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. >>> >>> I know 1) is a grammatical and acceptable sentence, but what >>> about 2) and 3)? >> >> No to #2. It would not be grammatical/acceptable. But #3 might be used. >> >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Thank you. > >Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? > >Tanaka Akio In 1) and 2), "hardly" means "minimally or poorly, if at all", and with an added implication of "much effort" "Understood" in one makes "I" the object of understanding. In 1) the meaning is something like: "They could hardly understand me" + I could hardly achieve an understandable communication. Therefore I could hardly make them understand me. In 2) "Understand" makes me the subject who is understanding. Therefore, the "to" is ungrammatical and semantically incorrect - I could hardly make myself understand them (but the personae are the reverse of their positions in 1). In 3) the placement of "hardly" changes what is modified, or the emphasis, or both (not sure which), altering the meaning. In this case, "hardly" means "to not be expected to" With emphasis on "hardly", and secondary emphasis on "English", the meaning could be implied that "they" spoke no English at all. With emphasis on "hardly", and secondary emphasis on "them", the meaning could be implied that "they" have too disparate an experience, point of view, or reasoning ability to make sense of my communication. I can easily imagine a teenager saying this about "oldfashioned parents! With secondary emphasis on "hardly", and emphasis on "make", the meaning could be implied that understanding is voluntary, and not under the speakers control: I could them understand me! They had to to listen! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMeh011544 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0F98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:07:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3304234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:07:19 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FH7Hnh009306 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:07:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F16974FF for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:07:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04750-10 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:07:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050B39786C for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:07:16 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B06044.3090100@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:07:16 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Kristin References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AEC0B1.6010107@akad.ee> <42AF5342.3080002@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AF5342.3080002@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.523 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I thought it was an especially cute envelope. I just asked for one of a suitable size and with bubbles. > And I like that it speaks > French. ?? Some information at its margin about where it was produced? > Instead of throwing it away, I stuck it in my drawer of > personally recycled envelopes No temptation to click-cluck the bubbles? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMeh011537 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC0D84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:10:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3300630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:10:52 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FGApBe000923; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:10:52 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 69747066; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:10:50 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:12:13 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >To be perfectly fair, Natalie has admitted her responsibility. > >Karen Thank you. Larry scanned our photos of Brad and sent them to Stephanie, Natalie, Marie, and another meeber. Mailed the original photos to Kay. I'm off enjoying my bike again and then going for a walk. I received a catalog for the Lake George Area yesterday. Larry's folks picked us up the AAA book and I found Frommer's Guide Book to New York State. Time to start planning. This is a vacation for us as well as list event. We're staying here in Canada. http://www.infoniagara.com/bb/Niagara-Falls/eastwood/ I waited too long to get a good ticket to Dublin. I was going to attend a wedding if I could get a reasonable ticket. Did you get a decent flight to London, Paul? We were able to get one for $663 round trip each but Dublin is priced as twice that. Go figure. Tomorrow I see Nathaniel. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMeh011541 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC0F4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:07:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3304244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:07:22 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FH7MRG009324 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:07:22 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC0F99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:07:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:07:21 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: was Re: Brad Pictures, now FEST To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:59:59 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:12:13 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > >>I'm off enjoying my bike again and then going for a walk. I received a >>catalog for the Lake George Area yesterday. Larry's folks picked us up the >>AAA book and I found Frommer's Guide Book to New York State. Time to start >>planning. This is a vacation for us as well as list event. >> >YES! >I finally got the webpage out of SocialText limbo... not that anyone >who's coming hasn't seen all this, but - I feel better now that I can >check it off my list. > >clo Oh, . the URL disappeared. I'll try again: web.syr.edu/~clostran/Fest.htm clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMei011542 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC0FBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3304623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:26 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FHBQXX009911 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:26 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:26 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:10:52 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I recognize the place where you're staying in Niagara Falls! I drove right past it yesterday (or rather rode - since I was not driving the bus). I am not going to London. It just didn't work out this time. i wanted to go with ny son and he can't get the time off. We're starting now to plan for next year. BrP >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 6/15/2005 12:12:13 PM >>> We're staying here in Canada. http://www.infoniagara.com/bb/Niagara-Falls/eastwood/ I waited too long to get a good ticket to Dublin. I was going to attend a wedding if I could get a reasonable ticket. Did you get a decent flight to London, Paul? We were able to get one for $663 round trip each but Dublin is priced as twice that. Go figure. Tomorrow I see Nathaniel. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMeh011543 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1001@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:15:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3305106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:15:59 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FHFwfA010861 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:15:58 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:15:58 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:15:20 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU btw- The bridge you can just see in the one picture of the couple on the porch is the Rainbow Bridge. Didn't we discuss "crossing the Rainbow Bridge" here fairly recently? BrP >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 6/15/2005 12:12:13 PM >>> We're staying here in Canada. http://www.infoniagara.com/bb/Niagara-Falls/eastwood/ Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMei011544 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC10F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:34:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3307429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:34:03 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FHY2HE014740 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:34:02 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 113165218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:34:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615103504.028bfda0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:35:23 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's a lot cheaper in fall, winter, and spring of course. Betty At 10:10 AM 6/15/2005, you wrote: >I recognize the place where you're staying in Niagara Falls! I drove >right past it yesterday (or rather rode - since I was not driving the >bus). > > I am not going to London. It just didn't work out this time. i >wanted to go with ny son and he can't get the time off. We're starting >now to plan for next year. > >BrP > > > > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 6/15/2005 12:12:13 PM >>> >We're staying here in >Canada. http://www.infoniagara.com/bb/Niagara-Falls/eastwood/ > >I waited too long to get a good ticket to Dublin. I was going to attend >a >wedding if I could get a reasonable ticket. Did you get a decent >flight to >London, Paul? We were able to get one for $663 round trip each but >Dublin >is priced as twice that. Go figure. > >Tomorrow I see Nathaniel. > >Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMej011537 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC114E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:45:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3308774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:45:57 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FHjvLj017047 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:45:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEDE982D1 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:45:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10693-03 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:45:55 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id C756197E90 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:45:55 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B06954.6010105@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:45:56 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: taking back my words References: <42B06732.2020206@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42B06732.2020206@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.523 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > I did not get any electronical answer after my recent message I must take back even more words. There's a short remark on the web page where I can check the status of my order, "Refunded by [name] ([date 9 days later than I sent my last message])". Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:26:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMei011537 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC0FB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3304614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:21 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FHBKbh009896 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7861F9865F for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:11:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05105-05 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:11:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FFF98657 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:11:20 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B06139.60702@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:11:21 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Before the page may fade away References: <42AED525.3020203@akad.ee> <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <945393270506140650291ee489@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.236 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry Clark wrote: >>>Reading Brad's home page: What does 'Lansakes' mean? > > > >>From the Phrase Finder: > >: "Land sakes" or "land sakes alive" doesn't have a meaning in the >conventional sense; it's just an exclamation of surprise. It may be a minced >oath (a softened form of swearing), a substitute for "For the Lord's sake." > > Thank you all for the answers, one of them came backchannel. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:27:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMei011541 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1118@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:36:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3307798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:36:50 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FHanRw015346 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:36:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8077D97A99 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:36:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09911-09 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:36:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3CE978BE for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:36:49 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B06732.2020206@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:36:50 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: taking back my words X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.831 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_10_20, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Maybe you remember me blaming Countrybookshop in the UK for keeping my money for a long time and not sending me my ordered books although they had promised to do it. ("They have now been reprinted and are expected to arrive within the next five days. As soon as they are in stock we will post them on to you without further delay. " -- sorry, I quoted the passage here without any permission, instead of changing the sentences from direct speech to indirect speech and messing with tenses, although it would actually be a good exercise for revising my knowledge of grammar). Some time ago I pulled myself together and asked my money back, and yes, it helped. I didn't sound very friendly in my message to them, rather coldly polite, and, I'm afraid, even not too polite. (Maybe I shouldn't blame myself too much for that because, really, it would've been nice of them to write me a tiny note during the long time after their promise if something happened and they couldn't send me the books.) I did not get any electronical answer after my recent message about their paying back my money, either online at their site for customers or in an e-message. But today: surprise, surprise! I found an envelope in my mailbox and it contained a letter and a cheque from the bookshop! I had lost all hope. Well, I won't send them a thankful - and polite! - message before I'll have been to the bank tomorrow, so that I can see the cheque is valid. (I cannot say my suspicions are too strong, but...) I think well of them now! -- This last sentence is necessary if accidentally Google might reveal the message when somebody should search for the shop in the web. :) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:27:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMei011543 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:27:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC127A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:11:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3311344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:11:26 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FIBPgI021083 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:11:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93D498432 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:11:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13632-01 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:11:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919E59818C for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:11:23 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B06F4C.3080802@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:11:24 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <42AF86F9.50900@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AF86F9.50900@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.524 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Adam Hartfield wrote: > >> Welcome to the list, Dave. You're the first new subscriber in a while >> who >> has had the guts to say anything. This is a good sign. > > But we've had two postings from newbies tonight, haven't we? We need to > get into serious matters like egg-slots. Most of my post has stayed unread for several days already. When I noticed the subject line and a new name I thought it was either a spam or that Richard had changed his name again. Welcome to the list, Dave! I must find out about the other newby Natalie referred to. (Are you sure, Natalie, it wasn't Richard?) Kristin, busy for several more days coming (till Monday or more) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:27:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIPMej011542 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC115A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:43:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3308457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:43:23 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FHhHWV016626 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:43:17 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC111E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:43:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200506151743.j5FHhHWV016626@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:43:16 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: greetings from Omaha To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:46:03 -0400, Bethany K. Dumas >My afternoon class will not meet on Friday (we go to see "Crash" that >evening, instead), Good move! Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:32:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIVxee012395 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:32:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:32:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC136F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:31:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3312897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:31:59 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FIVwAH024001 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:31:58 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050615183158m9100nh7she>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:31:58 +0000 Message-ID: <021901c571d8$88440180$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:32:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben: Are you sure you mean Bruno's, as in the grocery chain? How about Papa's or the Ravenite? Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Ostrowsky" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day >> Been through there but actually I'm in Baldwin Co.on the other side of >> Mobile Bay. > > In that case, you must know how good Bruno's pizza is. I have friends > in Fairhope. > > Ben > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:33:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIXFee012536 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00680D0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:26:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3290895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:26:36 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEQZWi015975 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:26:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22919697 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:49:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:27:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:26:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1593260588.20050615082633@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Moonwalk? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061506557e42a00c@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c5706c$8cd7a9d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <571298327.20050613174259@gailndan.com> <001301c57072$5eae48b0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <31997893.20050613175517@gailndan.com> <42AE3A7D.9050503@maynor.net> <147280711.20050613223452@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050614054834.02719240@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42AF5452.8060801@maynor.net> <276343869.20050614213923@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061506557e42a00c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=82915, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 7:55 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Undoubtedly so. There were fans there, Japanese, apparently FROM >> Japan, with signs and such. AFoA> Most of the stories I've heard about the fans make it sounds like the AFoA> majority were from overseas. I don't know about the majority, but there were sure a shitload of them. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:33:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIXFee012530 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00680EB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:24:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3290696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:24:27 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEORR9015607 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:24:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23167581 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:24:45 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:24:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:24:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <381672080.20050615082426@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: greetings from Omaha In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81880, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 6:46 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> The zoo is of course on my list; since it is near the stadium where the BKD> CWS is being played, I will wait until that is over before trying to BKD> organize a trip there (parking is apparently a mess in that area during BKD> the CWS). So how is your room, the coffee situation, etc? How did you resolve your coffee issues? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:33:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIXFee012532 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00680EC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:25:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3290847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:25:57 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEPunp015842 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:25:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23099930 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:35:24 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:26:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:25:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1087178744.20050615082555@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: water In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=95732, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 7:55 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> The other 1% could be from the golfers themselves? Sounds likely. But that would usually just be watering some trees or some brush off in the rough....not the fairways and greens, I'd assume. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:33:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIXFee012535 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00680EA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:20:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3290427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:20:12 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEKC8L015110 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:20:12 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22918778 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:43:09 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:20:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:20:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=82905, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 5:03 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Perhaps I'll remind you of the salient detail that you are the one who >>deleted them without first checking if they were secured. >> >> NM> Why do I need to be reminded of that? It in no way changes the loss. Two reasons. I've had the feeling that there has been some "finger pointing" going on. And second that, as I mentioned before, we each need to assume our own PERSONAL responsibility for things over which we have control, and if deleting files from a server doesn't fit in there, I sure don't know where it fits. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:33:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIXFef012537 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006811C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:06:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3304124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:05:57 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FH5rLi009102 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:05:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC0F3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:05:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200506151705.j5FH5rLi009102@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:05:53 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:50:56 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:05 +0900, Tanaka Akio >wrote: > >>>> >>>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. >>>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. >>>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. >>>> OOPS! I gave wrong examples in talking about 3). Hope this is clearer: > >In 3) the placement of "hardly" changes what is modified, or the emphasis, >or both (not sure which), altering the meaning. In this case, "hardly" >means "to not be expected to" > >With emphasis on "hardly", and secondary emphasis on "English", >the meaning could be implied that "they" spoke no English at all. I could make myself understood to them in . >With emphasis on "hardly", and secondary emphasis on "them", >the meaning could be implied that "they" have too disparate an >experience, point of view, or reasoning ability to make sense of >my communication. > >I can easily imagine a teenager saying this about "oldfashioned parents! I could make myself understood to in English. (they insist on using words like "groovy", and have no clue what "'S'up" means!) >With secondary emphasis on "hardly", and emphasis on "make", >the meaning could be implied that understanding is voluntary, >and not under the speakers control: >I could them understand me! They had to to >listen! I could myself understood to them in English. They insist on being addressed in ASL [or insert another native language here]! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:33:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIXFef012530 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006813DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:57:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3309939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:57:58 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FHvwgC018952 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:57:58 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050615175755m9100ngkkie>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:57:55 +0000 Message-ID: <00df01c571d3$c6ac5cb0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B00A91.1010103@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:58:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: It is. Obviously I'm not a native. ;-) Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:01 AM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day > David Guy Fetzer wrote: > >> Been through there but actually I'm in Baldwin Co.on the other side of >> Mobile Bay. > > The other side of Mobile Bay from Lee and Russell Counties?? I thought > Baldwin Co. was on their side of the bay. In any case, welcome to > Words-L! > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:33:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIXFef012536 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00681015@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:32:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3302049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:32:01 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FGW1lg003843 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:32:01 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23118885 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:41:30 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:32:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:31:59 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=95845, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 10:08 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> At 11:56 PM 6/14/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >>.. Call it negligence if you wish, but it is negligence that we all >>contributed to, cwv> What's this "we" shit, Kemo Sabe? Don't know....doesn't include me, either. Imagine I saw the site once or twice a decade ago, but hadn't thought of it, or missed it, until the subject came up lately. I'm pissy on this subject because of the idiots we support here. Most are not idiots, but.... People's PCs all have network drives as well as local hard drives, of course. We tell them that if they have stuff that is important, they MUST save it to a network drive, as those are backed up nightly. Local hard drives are NEVER backed up unless someone chooses to do something like burn a CD of something off his machine. Don't think that happens much unless someone has some stuff they want to take home. But at least once a month we get "aaaaahhhhhhh....hellllllppppp.....my most important file is lost". Well, a few of them are they just forgot where they saved it. Most are other problems.....and if they'd saved it to the network....but nooooooo..... We even set some people's computers to default save to the "M" drive (everybody has one for "My Drive") to reduce the chance of them doing something stupid, but..... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:33:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIXFee012537 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:33:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00680E6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:38:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:38:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FEctr2018083 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:38:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so322906nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.227.55 with SMTP id z55mr4515554nzg; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:38:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EbyKUxgb7TXkrjZ57z3Pr31Zp00pi0iBOkBA48y2L/fh86AYGczCgsGmDCDACFi9IiOUSsET+sndk84ll3faX/uu5Pye5PAqiQuetE6mPzvNaKBRH50FEMds9TIY7+AoZ3kryxrAsRCW2Owl6+uVSn2HoJuwdeM6MUTjozbnfwQ= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:38:55 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Greetings from Victoria In-Reply-To: <001601c571b5$cbdec240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506111947.j5BJl9tE011972@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42AF9B1F.2030104@gmail.com> <001601c571b5$cbdec240$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FEctr2018084 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > As far as I know there is no legal way to control them, so they just > keep multiplying. Well, you could probably use humane traps and take them somewhere else, but that's not a viable option for the entire area. Have you considered a vicious pet dog? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:38:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIcMee012996 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:38:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:38:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00681532@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:38:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3313374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:38:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FIcKq7024956 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:38:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so9704nzk for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.13 with SMTP id g13mr31302nzg; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:38:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BXLc+M28ZWJK7sZVi1c0yqBH6JrMBV2aurSn8lliOslNJzesWYtitvlf9WDh9jOfThBx6TjouHe9e4OVWX2qrDEqOGIkExyxDc3dzTLXCgvl2Gq4c4mOWAB/q5DxaN4AlHcCeBdJSpMKBW2hMxsxt9jaLMNEw7UVqWyqL8iiO9s= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050615113846392dbe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:38:20 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061414362420a67a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FIcLq7024957 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you for all of your responses. This bird is officially dead. The SMEs have bowed to my superior knowledge. All is well in the kingdom. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:53:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIquee014689 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:52:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:53:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC13CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:42:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3313611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:42:56 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FIgqo3025559 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:42:52 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050615184252m92008ho8ae>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:42:52 +0000 Message-ID: <025a01c571da$0dfa64d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> <01c501c5713f$8330a9d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <1962914901.20050614215304@gailndan.com> <022401c57166$450b52a0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <839717746.20050615081157@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:42:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: First, your friend who's read everything on JFK's assassination reminds me of Dale, the conspiracy nut, on "King Of The Hill". Watch for the re-run of the episode where he goes to Dallas and thinks his theory is wrong and the government is wonderful. Hilarious stuff! Second, the Flight 800 theories are what caused the departure of Pierre Salinger from ABC News. Seems he was coming up with conspiracy theories instead of good stories more often than they liked. Let's just see if this Reynolds guy can prove his theories. If he can't, no problem. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day > 6/14/2005, 10:54 PM, David Guy Fetzer wrote: > > DGF> Dan: > > DGF> Fair enough! > > Coming from a strong science and research background, I'm always open > to alternative ideas, theories, etc. I followed a group on Flight 800 > for a year or more....mainly the folks who were sure terrorists shot > it down from the beach or a small boat, etc. And they're still > convinced it wasn't from an electrical problem in the fuel tank that > sparked the almost empty tank, which is what the FAA and others > officially said. > > Doubt they'll ever be able to prove to the contrary. On that one I > happen to believe the official one, mainly because they've come up > with NO evidence of anyone seeing a rocket launch, seeing "strange > people in a small boat", signs of "strangers on the beach", etc, etc, > etc. > > But I'd gladly donate a hundred bucks to someone who could prove what > happened with JFK assassination. But that one too would probably take > "God's Own Videotape" (well, assume He's digital or beyond by now) to > know for sure. One of my brothers is a freak on that topic....not > that he has strong conclusions, but he's read about everything (and I > know every book) that has ever come out on that day/event. > > As to who Deep Throat was, I never really cared. But on the JFK > thing, not sure I'd even believe a "death bed confession" (assuming > the people who did it (if not Oswald) are not dead and those who > killed them aren't dead and so on....at some point you could get to a > guy who killed someone unknown for some unknown reason...and all proof > could be gone). > > I'll admit to being dubious from the beginning on the claims of the > "cold fusion" guys from a few hundred miles south of me...and indeed > they were sure wrong. But imagine it'll work out someday, probably > after we're all long gone. > > dan > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:53:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIquee014690 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:52:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:53:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC13C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:44:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3313052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:44:19 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FIYI9I024286 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 69354 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 18:34:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:34:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... Message-ID: <20050615183418.GA66507@words-l.org> References: <20050614235215.GD46256@words-l.org> <20050615002059.7357@smtp.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050615002059.7357@smtp.asu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 05:20:59PM -0700, Hank Harken wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:08:58PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> > >> >"application program" for "A complete, self-contained program, such as > >> >an editor or electronic mail, that performs a specific task for the > >> >user"? > >> > >> > >> No. But I'm a non-techy mutant who is perhaps very much wrong in having > >> thought of the terms "application" and "program" (at least in some > >> contexts) as pretty much synonymous and thus "application program" > >> redundant. Isn't an application a program that is on a > >> computer for some task? > > > >The word was used to distinguish it from "system(s) program". > >The distinction follows the one the between the "user" and > >the "administrator". Since gmail revolutionized interpersonal > >communication, fewer and fewer people have run complete, self- > >contained email programs or editors on machines administrated > >by others. Hence, the term is obsolete. Alas! > > I don't think it's obsolete. At least, not yet. > Many people can't tolerate web-based email having experienced > good email clients (I'm not including Outlook or Entourage as > being "good" email clients). > > Besides, you can use email clients with a gmail account. > Take a look at the "features" link. You can access gmail > via POP. I have a very easy excuse. I was being "flip". Flip is in. Anyway, given a PC, you are frequently master of the whole machine, so e.g. installing a device driver isn't different from running a mail program. There is no need to call the latter an "application program". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 13:53:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FIqwee014695 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:52:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:53:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006813C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3314226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:57 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FIqt03026944 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:55 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050615185255m9100ngpgbe>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:52:55 +0000 Message-ID: <02c301c571db$7570cb30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: The news from Canada Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:53:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul: Certainly not while Dubya's in charge! Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: The news from Canada > How many years do you think it will be before there is an equivalent > story from the US ? > > BrP > > --------------------------------- > > Airbase hosts 1st military gay wedding > > Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:43:58 EDT > CBC News > > Two men were married in the chapel at Nova Scotia's Greenwood airbase > in May, in what's being called the Canadian military's first gay > wedding. > > Lt.-Cmdr. David Greenwood, the base's head chaplain, said a sergeant > and a warrant officer were married May 3 in front of about 45 guests. > > "This couple had been waiting a very long, long time," said Greenwood, > declining to give their names because he hadn't asked for permission. > > In September, the Nova Scotia Supreme Court ruled that banning same-sex > marriages is unconstitutional, effectively changing the definition of > marriage in the province to "the lawful union of two persons to the > exclusion of all others." > > The military has said it's willing to host gay weddings in > jurisdictions where it's legal. > > Greenwood, an Anglican, did not perform the marriage but he did make > the arrangements for the service while a United Church minister from > nearby Wolfville performed the vows. > > "I looked after the co-ordination in accordance with our military > policy of receiving the couple with dignity and respect," said > Greenwood. > > "I was there to preach and welcome the community on behalf of the base > chaplaincy." > > While most Anglican dioceses in Canada do not perform same-sex > marriages, the Canadian church has postponed its official decision until > 2007. > > Greenwood said the ceremony was relaxed and low-key, and there wasn't a > dry eye in sight when the couple signed the marriage documents. > > Greenwood said he has been told that a second same-sex marriage may be > in the works this year, at CFB Valcartier in Quebec. > > Same-sex marriage legal in 7 provinces, 1 territory > > In 2004, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Ottawa has exclusive > jurisdiction to decide who has the right to get married in this country, > but that religious groups are not obliged to perform unions against > their beliefs. > > Federal politicians are now considering a same-sex marriage bill. > > Currently, same-sex marriages performed in seven provinces and one > territory are legal and must be recognized. Same-sex marriages are not > performed in Alberta, New Brunswick, P.E.I., Nunavut and the Northwest > Territories, but the Nunavut government will recognize same-sex > marriages performed elsewhere. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:23:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJNQee017822 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC149A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:03:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3315381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:03:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FJ3PPD028691 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:03:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so22375nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.19.10 with SMTP id 10mr4591661nzs; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:03:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VbCDFHQDA48rHRE0EgohSH5KkbAwF0Ki97Opyd85EIrA/HHa0LzRZwnRBbxWZN+JSrzFFWisKavP+vQE2IMdYRXwKZPY2n53q+hkbliSGqjwQ87qVBmtbq8/c0Ob1r82Y6Rnc+dcWV+QuN7lysOEMBL51+Zf+hJRcA2eZylhr8w= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:03:25 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <021901c571d8$88440180$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <021901c571d8$88440180$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FJ3PPD028692 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Are you sure you mean Bruno's, as in the grocery chain? How about Papa's or > the Ravenite? Oh, I might have the name wrong... I'll ask them. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:23:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJNQee017827 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC156D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:19:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:19:26 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FJJOOt030933 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:19:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2F5987BB for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:19:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23083-10 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:19:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9317E9747E for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:19:22 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:19:08 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.525 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > The Top 5 Things on Michael Jackson's To-Do List > :-( I hoped you tried to drag mem out of his silence. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:23:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJNQee017824 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC14FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:10:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3315071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:10:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJ0ING028155 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:00:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 79898 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:00:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:00:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 08:37:39PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >I cannot help but admire the effrontery of invoking "context" > >in this thread--where the letter L in the "context" of S and M > >cannot be interpreted correctly. > > > Quite the contrary. In the "context" of clothes or milkshakes, the > S-M-L split makes sense. But in the "context" of "low resolution" vs > "high resolution" L to me would indicate low. I don't know how > camera-makers use the terms. Will look at the manual when I have time, > which isn't going to be right away. But I do think that there's a > problem when L in the context of low-high resolution means high. Sure. Along with "camera makers" let's also invent bigger contexts, of a vocabulary of photographers, the physics of light etc etc, raising interesting questions about whether "L" (and the letter "L" only, never accompanied by S and M) might possibly mean long or latent or laser or luminous. What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens to be a mass-appeal gadget. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:23:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJNQee017819 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC159C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:21:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:21:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJBiV1029791 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:11:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 84785 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:11:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:11:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050615191144.GD66507@words-l.org> References: <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <83db447a0506141922243793c6@mail.gmail.com> <42AF94BC.10406@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061419423815d146@mail.gmail.com> <42AF95E4.7000408@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AF95E4.7000408@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:43:48PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>I don't feel at all > >>mutant for having thought that when people were talking about "low" and > >>high," L would stand for low. > >> > >> > >Wouldn't you have thought that there would be an H somewhere in there? > > > Of course. That is what started this discussion of the letters. I said > that I could not find an H. "M" looks a lot like "H". At least in the context of what's going on in MY head RIGHT NOW--and that's the only context with any intrinsic value--M is as good as an H. I think I will proceed with my inductive theorizing and ask the list what "S" looks like. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:23:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJNQef017822 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC158B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:22:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3317186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:22:04 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FJM3jX031353 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:22:03 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 113202890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:22:02 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:23:23 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: for michael In-Reply-To: <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:19 PM 6/15/2005, you wrote: >Dan Lester wrote: > >> >> The Top 5 Things on Michael Jackson's To-Do List >:-( >I hoped you tried to drag mem out of his silence. > >Kristin Dan seems fixated on michael for some reason. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:23:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJNQee017826 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1576@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:18:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3315732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:18:14 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJ8Cdo029291 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:08:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 82957 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:08:12 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:08:12 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050615190812.GC66507@words-l.org> References: <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <83db447a0506141922243793c6@mail.gmail.com> <42AF94BC.10406@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AF94BC.10406@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:38:52PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > >>Quite the contrary. In the "context" of clothes or milkshakes, the > >>S-M-L split makes sense. But in the "context" of "low resolution" vs > >>"high resolution" L to me would indicate low. > >> > >> > >That is where you are in error. The L-M-S designations do not refer to the > >degree of resolution but rather to size of the image file, i.e., the number > >of pixels or the number of MB in the image file---so as the size of image > >file increases, so does the level of resolution. > > > Yes, that is quite clear to me now. That's why I said a little while > ago that "size" would be a better term if, as you say, the L-M-S > designations refer to the size of the image file. I don't feel at all > mutant for having thought that when people were talking about "low" and > high," L would stand for low. Ah, well even if there is no hope for the vexed L-is-for-low mystery, I see how you get misled (though not why you do so frequently). Here, for instance, Clyde has introduced the unnecessary and erroneous factor of "file size", which will undoubtedly lead to an extensive and pointless subthread. The small, medium and large of course refer the size of the IMAGE--i.e. width and height. What's "file size"? A huge number of other parameters have to be fixed before the concept even has any reality. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:26:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJQBee018111 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:26:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:26:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068158E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:56:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3314403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:56:09 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FIu8Zg027413 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:56:08 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:56:08 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:55:35 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: The news from Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It goes deeper than Dubya! and welcome Dave I was in T.O. when you signed on and didn't give you a proper greeting. BrP >>> d.fetzer@MCHSI.COM 6/15/2005 2:53:02 PM >>> Paul: Certainly not while Dubya's in charge! Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: The news from Canada > How many years do you think it will be before there is an equivalent > story from the US ? > > BrP > > --------------------------------- > > Airbase hosts 1st military gay wedding > > Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:43:58 EDT > CBC News > > Two men were married in the chapel at Nova Scotia's Greenwood airbase > in May, in what's being called the Canadian military's first gay > wedding. > > Lt.-Cmdr. David Greenwood, the base's head chaplain, said a sergeant > and a warrant officer were married May 3 in front of about 45 guests. > > "This couple had been waiting a very long, long time," said Greenwood, > declining to give their names because he hadn't asked for permission. > > In September, the Nova Scotia Supreme Court ruled that banning same-sex > marriages is unconstitutional, effectively changing the definition of > marriage in the province to "the lawful union of two persons to the > exclusion of all others." > > The military has said it's willing to host gay weddings in > jurisdictions where it's legal. > > Greenwood, an Anglican, did not perform the marriage but he did make > the arrangements for the service while a United Church minister from > nearby Wolfville performed the vows. > > "I looked after the co-ordination in accordance with our military > policy of receiving the couple with dignity and respect," said > Greenwood. > > "I was there to preach and welcome the community on behalf of the base > chaplaincy." > > While most Anglican dioceses in Canada do not perform same-sex > marriages, the Canadian church has postponed its official decision until > 2007. > > Greenwood said the ceremony was relaxed and low-key, and there wasn't a > dry eye in sight when the couple signed the marriage documents. > > Greenwood said he has been told that a second same-sex marriage may be > in the works this year, at CFB Valcartier in Quebec. > > Same-sex marriage legal in 7 provinces, 1 territory > > In 2004, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Ottawa has exclusive > jurisdiction to decide who has the right to get married in this country, > but that religious groups are not obliged to perform unions against > their beliefs. > > Federal politicians are now considering a same-sex marriage bill. > > Currently, same-sex marriages performed in seven provinces and one > territory are legal and must be recognized. Same-sex marriages are not > performed in Alberta, New Brunswick, P.E.I., Nunavut and the Northwest > Territories, but the Nunavut government will recognize same-sex > marriages performed elsewhere. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:27:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJRQee018198 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:27:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:27:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681618@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:27:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:27:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJHOHM030655 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:17:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 87306 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:17:24 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:17:24 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615191724.GE66507@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> <896449979.20050614215906@gailndan.com> <42B00A09.1060706@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B00A09.1060706@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 05:59:21AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > > >Well, think of it as someone's house burning down with their important > >memorabilia inside. Shit happens. In one case no one made a backup. > > > And if my house burned down with important memorabilia inside, I would > be equally distraught. Iow, making that comparison doesn't affect my > feelings. Ha! You are too innocent and know not the ways of "Dan Lester". That post was for HIS feelings, which as a matter of fact are assuaged by saying "shit happens" and "BFD". I believe one a day is enough, though emergencies may require two. Ah, "Dan Lester" ... he plays a deep game ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:34:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJYRee019069 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC15B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:24:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3317392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:24:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FJOPiC031681 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:24:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so38609nzk for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.37.19 with SMTP id k19mr56010nzk; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:24:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hBAFQxNTpGM3CAB7aALAni7pM/RRY1jEUBnW81soyhRN6K9flZz29pvJJ402dsGUfCmeSkBh8D31CvXURgWtoqHxsVgLQE4GFKlsHMcT+fORvpUVPvVOXve0mJcM6jtK/mDAPfYDqfmzHufnh3aVfGXReJsgXYIOXXArbj2N0rY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FJOPiC031683 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens > to be a mass-appeal gadget. *EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:34:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJYRee019072 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC15D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:30:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3317828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:30:30 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FJULk3032350 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:30:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1FA987E3 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:30:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24097-02 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:30:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4B6987B9 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:30:19 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:30:05 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.526 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > At 12:19 PM 6/15/2005, you wrote: > >> Dan Lester wrote: >> >>> >>> The Top 5 Things on Michael Jackson's To-Do List >> >> :-( >> I hoped you tried to drag mem out of his silence. >> >> Kristin > > > Dan seems fixated on michael for some reason. Yet it probably wasn't him who sent an image of the latter into my mirror the other morning. I had dyed my hair the day before -- not too dark but, however, it was a bit darker than just before dyeing. And my face was unusually pale after just getting up. And the length and the slight wave of my hair is close to what MJ has. I was a bit startled. The nose was more or less mine, though. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:34:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJYUee019084 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC15CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:34:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3317403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:34:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJOT0K031702 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:24:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 93025 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:24:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:29 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615192429.GG66507@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:20:11AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > PERSONAL responsibility Bravo! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:34:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJYRee019071 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC15FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:31:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3317178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:31:55 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJLsIB031336 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:21:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 89382 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:21:54 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:21:54 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand Message-ID: <20050615192154.GF66507@words-l.org> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:21:05PM +0900, Tanaka Akio wrote: > >> > >>1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. > >>2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. > >>3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. > >> > >>I know 1) is a grammatical and acceptable sentence, but what > >>about 2) and 3)? > > > >No to #2. It would not be grammatical/acceptable. But #3 might be used. > > > >-- > >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Thank you. > > Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? "I couldn't make them understand me" or "They couldn't understand me" roughly convey the same thing, but they don't MEAN the same thing. It's nothing to do with the tense, if that's the question. For instance, "I won't be able to make myself understood", "I am not making myself understood". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:45:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJj0ee020204 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:45:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:45:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681690@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:44:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3319282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:44:59 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FJiwc3002222 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:44:59 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 113210095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:44:58 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:46:19 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: for michael In-Reply-To: <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Betty Clark wrote: >>Dan seems fixated on michael for some reason. > >Yet it probably wasn't him who sent an image of the latter into my >mirror the other morning. I had dyed my hair the day before -- not too >dark but, however, it was a bit darker than just before dyeing. And my >face was unusually pale after just getting up. And the length and the >slight wave of my hair is close to what MJ has. I was a bit startled. >The nose was more or less mine, though. > >Kristin Do you walk around with an umbrella? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:48:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJmbee020552 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:48:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:48:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC16A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:48:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3318653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:48:37 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJcZiC001195 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:38:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 98854 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:38:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:38:35 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615193835.GB95943@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:37:03AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > > But...an American of this day and age assume personal responsibility? > Naaahhhh....not bloodly likely. In Chicago, I and older farts than me have recently formed the ACRU. We get a lot of pleasure just by bitching about people abdicating their PERSONAL responsibilities, but a more diverse range of activities is planned. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:49:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJn4ee020637 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:49:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:49:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC16B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:49:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3318667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:49:03 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJd2fC001260 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:39:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 99577 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:39:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:39:02 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... Message-ID: <20050615193902.GC95943@words-l.org> References: <20050615002059.7357@smtp.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:39:32AM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > As for mail, give me back VMS mail. That was my favorite, followed by elm. > > SET ADAM/STATUS="Geeky" mhehhhehhehheh good one From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:52:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJpree020933 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:51:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC168E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:51:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3319068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:51:52 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJfpdi001830 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:41:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 788 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:41:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:41:51 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615194151.GD95943@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 10:31:59AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Don't know....doesn't include me, either. Imagine I saw the site once > or twice a decade ago, but hadn't thought of it, or missed it, until > the subject came up lately. > > I'm pissy on this subject because of the idiots we support here. Most > are not idiots, but.... People's PCs all have network drives as well > as local hard drives, of course. We tell them that if they have stuff > that is important, they MUST save it to a network drive, as those are > backed up nightly. Local hard drives are NEVER backed up unless > someone chooses to do something like burn a CD of something off his > machine. Don't think that happens much unless someone has some stuff > they want to take home. > > But at least once a month we get "aaaaahhhhhhh....hellllllppppp.....my > most important file is lost". Well, a few of them are they just > forgot where they saved it. Most are other problems.....and if they'd > saved it to the network....but nooooooo..... > > We even set some people's computers to default save to the "M" drive > (everybody has one for "My Drive") to reduce the chance of them doing > something stupid, but..... ... what can you do with a pathetic system? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:52:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJq2ee020965 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC16E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:52:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3319744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:52:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FJq1nH003183 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:52:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so59692nzo for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.10 with SMTP id a10mr54434nzd; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:52:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rnXCiUU2SfjwBLomRW7ntrzRE7N6roJZrT618SJNYayiKyy8S2iUfm0YNLu31/gQ4mMlSMuq1UxiYQbb2JJrHnNw/tsnyAY1X3aMuonfBu6Dfj0WJU2GH2IEusTkLmmLanNTiMc0i6Buvvi67Vs19O7E+N8902CFBeCTdIXmbeY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506151252188b4723@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FJq1nH003185 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Do you walk around with an umbrella? Marcia does! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:52:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJqQee020997 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006816BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:52:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3319129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:52:25 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJgNsq001904 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:42:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 98198 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:35:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:35:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand Message-ID: <20050615193542.GA95943@words-l.org> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:07:07AM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 6/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Tanaka Akio wrote: > > > > >>> > > >>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. > > >>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. > > >>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. > > >> > > > Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? > > > > You could say something like "I could hardly make them understand me in > > English" -- though that sounds a wee bit awkward to me. > > It's more than awkward, I think. (1) and (3) are about making "myself" > do something. Natalie's proposal is about making someone else ("them") > do something, and while this largely means the same thing, it carries > quite different baggage, e.g. the suggestion that the problem is their > fault rather than mine. I am sure I won't "make myself believable" but I find that quite a large number of people are totally deaf to this difference. > The problem with (2) is a low-level grammatical one; one could also > say "make myself understandable" with not a huge change in meaning. I think the problem has arisen because "understood" is being thought of as a verb, which it is not. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:53:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJqeee021055 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:52:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:53:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1699@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:52:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3319818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:52:40 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FJqdxn003279 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:52:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A515988EE for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:52:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26235-08 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:52:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD5098658 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:52:37 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B086F8.5050901@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:52:24 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.527 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> Betty Clark wrote: >> >>> Dan seems fixated on michael for some reason. >> >> >> Yet it probably wasn't him who sent an image of the latter into my >> mirror the other morning. I had dyed my hair the day before -- not too >> dark but, however, it was a bit darker than just before dyeing. And my >> face was unusually pale after just getting up. And the length and the >> slight wave of my hair is close to what MJ has. I was a bit startled. >> The nose was more or less mine, though. >> >> Kristin > > > Do you walk around with an umbrella? An opened one? For protection from sun? No. (I probably haven't seen pictures of MJ with umbrella, that's why I can only guess and ask.) But I intend to have a wide-brimmed hat for that purpose, if I only could find one light enough and simple enough and with a wide enough brim. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 14:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FJxiee021948 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:59:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:59:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC172F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:59:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3320491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:59:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FJxc74004227 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:59:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2737nzo for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr72835nzb; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:59:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VdBlLNx4dCqWePXaK7Td599KRDNTB3klaxQ3qaryIxuIP3S8lF09Bcu3txzWGQ4nkadtb2uyAopLjOz5rWkNvGCa9+phYHC665JmjE/Yf3iSky6vuhl6i39dcv1YnqTAC/IRTYBZ3dOOx1nbMxh2r4zlFCIWN/YIsiYDpnJVwWg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061512595f191c5c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:59:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael In-Reply-To: <42B086F8.5050901@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B086F8.5050901@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FJxe74004237 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > But I intend to have a wide-brimmed hat for that purpose, if I only > could find one light enough and simple enough and with a wide enough brim. But it needs strings or elastic so it doesn't blow off. KaRen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:11:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKBQee023302 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:11:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:11:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1782@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:03:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3319882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:03:16 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJrFb4003352 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:53:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 6283 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:53:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:53:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael Message-ID: <20050615195315.GA5769@words-l.org> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 10:30:05PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Betty Clark wrote: > > >At 12:19 PM 6/15/2005, you wrote: > > > >>Dan Lester wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> The Top 5 Things on Michael Jackson's To-Do List > >> > >>:-( > >>I hoped you tried to drag mem out of his silence. > >> > >>Kristin > > > > > >Dan seems fixated on michael for some reason. > > Yet it probably wasn't him who sent an image of the latter into my > mirror the other morning. I had dyed my hair the day before -- not too > dark but, however, it was a bit darker than just before dyeing. And my > face was unusually pale after just getting up. And the length and the > slight wave of my hair is close to what MJ has. I was a bit startled. > The nose was more or less mine, though. Well, surely you must have done SOMETHING wrong. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:11:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKBTee023310 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:11:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:11:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC179A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:06:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3321202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:06:54 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FK6sZl005130 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:06:54 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:06:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:06:18 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Nothing succeeds like XS" 'Oscar Wilde BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 6/15/2005 3:51:25 PM >>> I don't understand "excellent". Please mark the right box: [ ] XXS [ ] XS [ ] S [ ] M [ ] M1 [ ] M2 [ ] L [ ] XL [ ] XXL From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:11:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKBQee023300 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:11:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:11:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1757@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:01:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3319680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:01:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FJpPDT003090 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:51:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 5716 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 19:51:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:51:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> References: <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:24PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens > > to be a mass-appeal gadget. > > *EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. I don't understand "excellent". Please mark the right box: [ ] XXS [ ] XS [ ] S [ ] M [ ] M1 [ ] M2 [ ] L [ ] XL [ ] XXL From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:11:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKBTee023308 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:11:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:11:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC17C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:11:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3321506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:11:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKBGcW005660 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:11:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so6197nzk for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr75587nzc; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:11:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bF44T2mWZQaMsajYZY5TswvYVNEJIalo5/ZwqJ+Poce6r6pTaGZWDHNKa+lLvjJGOdPGJSNDzw9lQWO8xJGaNBhpY2ilxtvuHOpuBbQqjeEPu8Ki3jHID+aV2VvHsn7GG1wBk/BdTxJbrC7eevORgH9RsCSzT4tY8KtdAty9tdI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:11:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FKBHcW005661 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU [ ] XL On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:24PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens > > > to be a mass-appeal gadget. > > > > *EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. > > I don't understand "excellent". Please mark the right box: > > [ ] XXS > [ ] XS > [ ] S > [ ] M > [ ] M1 > [ ] M2 > [ ] L > [ ] XL > [ ] XXL > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:12:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKCWee023386 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:12:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:12:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006817F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:12:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3321529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:12:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKCRMH005746 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:12:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so8747nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.19 with SMTP id o19mr88952nzo; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:12:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BNofPIfZ4fJbhpFdNc7dNslUjENY83yhQ5n80V0JXUyBf+ZlPJ9DOQ8kLxwe6nhqRjItM5C2zC2rdx8a5G7lIZBTQ/3XF+oJ0yQymrdzrfkDJX4zSTsh6A4lppHr5z2x2m6Z4P6/FLCZ77qNMjHLOAyMrduQKg9kzG5wxm0aZHk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050615131231590f5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:12:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: <20050615193542.GA95943@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <20050615193542.GA95943@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FKCRMH005748 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:07:07AM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > > On 6/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Tanaka Akio wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > >>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. > > > >>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. > > > >>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. > > > >> > > > > Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? > > > > > > You could say something like "I could hardly make them understand me in > > > English" -- though that sounds a wee bit awkward to me. > > > > It's more than awkward, I think. (1) and (3) are about making "myself" > > do something. Natalie's proposal is about making someone else ("them") > > do something, and while this largely means the same thing, it carries > > quite different baggage, e.g. the suggestion that the problem is their > > fault rather than mine. > > I am sure I won't "make myself believable" but I find that > quite a large number of people are totally deaf to this > difference. Lack of personal responsibility? > > The problem with (2) is a low-level grammatical one; one could also > > say "make myself understandable" with not a huge change in meaning. > > I think the problem has arisen because "understood" is > being thought of as a verb, which it is not. Cite. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:14:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKEjee023619 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:14:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:14:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00681649@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:14:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3321659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:14:44 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKEi5V006009 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:14:44 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23214913 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:14:58 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:15:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:14:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <19269693.20050615141438@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <025a01c571da$0dfa64d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> <01c501c5713f$8330a9d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <1962914901.20050614215304@gailndan.com> <022401c57166$450b52a0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <839717746.20050615081157@gailndan.com> <025a01c571da$0dfa64d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=82148, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 12:42 PM, David Guy Fetzer wrote: DGF> First, your friend who's read everything on JFK's assassination reminds me Actually, it is one of my brothers, who is principal of a 4000 student high school in suburban Chicago. Besides education degrees he has an MA in History (US). His kids are named, for example, Jackson and Grant and so forth. He's not really a conspiracy nut, and he doesn't have a "pet theory" or anything. And he doesn't see a common thread of truth through any of them, from Warren Commission to anyone else. DGF> of Dale, the conspiracy nut, on "King Of The Hill". Watch for the re-run of DGF> the episode where he goes to Dallas and thinks his theory is wrong and the DGF> government is wonderful. Hilarious stuff! Hmmm.....I like KOTH, but my wife hates it. But with both a TiVo and an HD DVR, we often watch separate things....and many together. Plus we work somewhat different hours. KOTH reminds me of too many people I know....not just in Idaho, but in TX and KS and NE and IL and a bunch of other places I've lived and people I've known. DGF> Second, the Flight 800 theories are what caused the departure of Pierre DGF> Salinger from ABC News. Seems he was coming up with conspiracy theories DGF> instead of good stories more often than they liked. Hadn't known that, but fits. DGF> Let's just see if this Reynolds guy can prove his theories. If he can't, no DGF> problem. Yeah, like always, "show me the proof". Of course I thought they had enough proof on MJ, too, but.....and on OJ too.... Oh well.....not yet a perfect world. So watcha do down there? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:16:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKFwee023809 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:15:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:16:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681759@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:15:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3321735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:15:58 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKFv6J006192 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:15:57 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5FKFtWS029654 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:15:55 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5FKFtOB029652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:15:55 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:15:55 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615201555.GA29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <20050615112429.GA26859@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B01E2A.1070307@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B01E2A.1070307@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 07:25:14AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = steph wrote: = = > Are you still bemoaning other stuff that got lost = >because of your own actions or inactions as frequently as these = >pictures? = > = Of course. There are some losses that I think about far more often. Think about is different from express. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:22:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKLuee024522 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:21:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:22:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC17C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:21:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3322168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:21:54 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKLrcJ006949 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:21:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23215721 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:22:12 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:22:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:21:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <44582773.20050615142152@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: for michael In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=82153, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 1:23 PM, Betty Clark wrote: BC> Dan seems fixated on michael for some reason. Nope. Never was a fan, even when it was Jackson 5, though could stand a few of his songs then. Never liked any of his adult shit. Didn't follow the trial at all. Was just disgusted with the outcome. I know too many guys (not myself, thank God) who have been seriously fucked up by perverts like MJ. No, nothing proven in this case....but there's surely enough around to make it pretty clear that he's done a lot of things that are illegal. When you smell enough of it, you know there's some real shit around. But, to quote another....."If the glove doesn't fit...." and neither lawyer could make it fit....either the leather one or the glittery one. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:23:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKNKee024657 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:23:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:23:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1807@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:23:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3322244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:23:19 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKNJoW007081 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:23:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23147224 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:32:50 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:23:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <194090110.20050615142317@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <20050615191724.GE66507@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> <896449979.20050614215906@gailndan.com> <42B00A09.1060706@maynor.net> <20050615191724.GE66507@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 230, in=96028, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 1:17 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> And if my house burned down with important memorabilia inside, I would >> be equally distraught. Iow, making that comparison doesn't affect my >> feelings. DMH> Ha! You are too innocent and know not the ways of "Dan Lester". DMH> That post was for HIS feelings, which as a matter of fact are DMH> assuaged by saying "shit happens" and "BFD". I believe one a DMH> day is enough, though emergencies may require two. Ah, "Dan DMH> Lester" ... he plays a deep game ... This of course has long been answered, Tushiebaby. But if you want a song title, listen to Don Henley's "Get Over It", with its wonderful line: "I'd like to take your inner child and kick his little ass, get over it" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:24:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKOCee024742 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:24:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:24:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC180B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:24:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3322280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:24:09 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKO8EI007172 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:24:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22194787 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:04:22 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:24:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:07 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1073212472.20050615142407@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: for michael In-Reply-To: <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=79948, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 1:30 PM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> The nose was more or less mine, though. That's good. And unlike his, of course. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:28:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKSAee025148 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:28:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:28:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068165B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:18:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3321912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:18:10 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKI92A006478 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:18:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22194147 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:58:23 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:18:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:18:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <59437517.20050615141808@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=79944, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 1:00 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> Along with "camera makers" let's also invent bigger contexts, DMH> of a vocabulary of photographers, the physics of light etc etc, DMH> raising interesting questions about whether "L" (and the letter DMH> "L" only, never accompanied by S and M) might possibly mean long DMH> or latent or laser or luminous. We could really get into fun with f stops. I know Natalie doesn't know about them, but Natalie, an f stop of 4 lets in MORE light than one of 8 which lets in more light than one of 16, and so forth. (no, those aren't only numbers, just examples. And shutter speeds. When it says 100 it doesn't let in as much light as when it says 50. But you could compensate for that by changing your f stop from 4 to 2.8. But that might cause you other problems. Confusing enough yet, or shall we start Photography Principles 101? dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:35:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKZSee025774 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:35:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:35:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC182D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:25:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3322359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:25:28 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKPREL007285 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:25:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22966787 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:48:20 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:25:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:25:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <193653730.20050615142518@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <20050615193835.GB95943@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <20050615193835.GB95943@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=83203, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 1:38 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> In Chicago, I and older farts than me have recently DMH> formed the ACRU. And the acronym refers to??? American Civil Rights Union??? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:35:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKZSee025779 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:35:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:35:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1835@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:26:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3322429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:26:20 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKQKVU007463 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:26:20 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23147523 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:35:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:26:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:26:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1478156269.20050615142619@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <20050615194151.GD95943@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> <20050615194151.GD95943@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 230, in=96030, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 1:41 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> ... what can you do with a pathetic system? It is a mystery, my child, but I'm sure you can enlighten all of us. Is there a particular pathetic system you'd like to tell us what to do with? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:35:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKZSee025776 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:35:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:35:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1839@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:29:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3321965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:29:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FKJJvh006604 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:19:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 20225 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 20:19:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:19:19 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050615201919.GA19420@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 04:06:18PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > "Nothing succeeds like XS" > > 'Oscar Wilde > > BrP Bravo. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:35:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKZSee025780 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:35:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:35:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC184F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:29:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3321989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:29:44 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FKJhu7006650 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:19:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 20355 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 20:19:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:19:43 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> References: <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:11:15PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > [ ] XL Bravissimo. > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:24PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens > > > > to be a mass-appeal gadget. > > > > > > *EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. > > > > I don't understand "excellent". Please mark the right box: > > > > [ ] XXS > > [ ] XS > > [ ] S > > [ ] M > > [ ] M1 > > [ ] M2 > > [ ] L > > [ ] XL > > [ ] XXL > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:35:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKZSee025778 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:35:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:35:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC184B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:31:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3322075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:31:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FKL8oB006833 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:21:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 21113 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 20:21:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:21:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand Message-ID: <20050615202108.GC19420@words-l.org> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <20050615193542.GA95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615131231590f5f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050615131231590f5f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:12:26PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:07:07AM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > > > On 6/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > Tanaka Akio wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. > > > > >>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. > > > > >>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. > > > > >> > > > > > Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? > > > > > > > > You could say something like "I could hardly make them understand me in > > > > English" -- though that sounds a wee bit awkward to me. > > > > > > It's more than awkward, I think. (1) and (3) are about making "myself" > > > do something. Natalie's proposal is about making someone else ("them") > > > do something, and while this largely means the same thing, it carries > > > quite different baggage, e.g. the suggestion that the problem is their > > > fault rather than mine. > > > > I am sure I won't "make myself believable" but I find that > > quite a large number of people are totally deaf to this > > difference. > > Lack of personal responsibility? Yes. What else could it be? > > > The problem with (2) is a low-level grammatical one; one could also > > > say "make myself understandable" with not a huge change in meaning. > > > > I think the problem has arisen because "understood" is > > being thought of as a verb, which it is not. > > Cite. I just referred to my brain and it is indeeed true. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:38:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKc2ee025988 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:38:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:38:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC18AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:38:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3323430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:38:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKc1EE009058 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:38:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so24657nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.12 with SMTP id y12mr115699nzb; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:38:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MQbMhXMr6LUtffpH4kEx1Qg9k/SYe/tNJ/nzamVhVtiTh7AqgR6fPE2/fn+ORxFP7VpKdwEubJkXnwr4YPvf3aQbRJlrh6zH0j1XbAxOvjJ8JtcegiuRm0EwZ1dDjbI6Kk7cu4icseBAI/ZU/GqQnCJLnNeB9Jb1S859VUt7o48= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506151338752bb501@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:38:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I am... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FKc1EE009059 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU no longer a Twix virgin. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:38:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKchee026033 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:38:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:38:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC18A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:38:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3322593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:38:42 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FKSfDX007731 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:28:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 24002 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 20:28:41 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:28:41 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050615202841.GD19420@words-l.org> References: <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <59437517.20050615141808@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <59437517.20050615141808@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:18:08PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 1:00 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> Along with "camera makers" let's also invent bigger contexts, > DMH> of a vocabulary of photographers, the physics of light etc etc, > DMH> raising interesting questions about whether "L" (and the letter > DMH> "L" only, never accompanied by S and M) might possibly mean long > DMH> or latent or laser or luminous. > > We could really get into fun with f stops. I know Natalie doesn't > know about them, but Natalie, an f stop of 4 lets in MORE light than > one of 8 which lets in more light than one of 16, and so forth. (no, > those aren't only numbers, just examples. > > And shutter speeds. When it says 100 it doesn't let in as much light > as when it says 50. But you could compensate for that by changing > your f stop from 4 to 2.8. But that might cause you other problems. > > Confusing enough yet, or shall we start Photography Principles 101? Sure. How many photons in a pixel? (It's avogadro's constant, isn't it.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:40:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKe9ee026177 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:40:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:40:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC18AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:40:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3322689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:40:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FKU7Av007894 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:30:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 25114 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 20:30:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:30:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615203007.GA24038@words-l.org> References: <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> <896449979.20050614215906@gailndan.com> <42B00A09.1060706@maynor.net> <20050615191724.GE66507@words-l.org> <194090110.20050615142317@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <194090110.20050615142317@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:23:17PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 1:17 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> And if my house burned down with important memorabilia inside, I would > >> be equally distraught. Iow, making that comparison doesn't affect my > >> feelings. > > DMH> Ha! You are too innocent and know not the ways of "Dan Lester". > DMH> That post was for HIS feelings, which as a matter of fact are > DMH> assuaged by saying "shit happens" and "BFD". I believe one a > DMH> day is enough, though emergencies may require two. Ah, "Dan > DMH> Lester" ... he plays a deep game ... > > This of course has long been answered, Tushiebaby. But if you want a > song title, listen to Don Henley's "Get Over It", with its wonderful > line: "I'd like to take your inner child and kick his little ass, get > over it" That's wonderful. I am sure his sound is pretty "homegrown"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:40:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKeIee026199 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:40:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:40:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC18C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:40:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3323599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:40:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKeF3t009263 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:40:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so25956nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.19 with SMTP id s19mr116916nzc; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:40:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Oruuoe95HIdlvS5FJT1qRFQnVDhaM02v8S0QpHezC7K0MdNKPNyScBH0eGML4UIbL+HTDqivF5r7AFwmIHl0owlUrHPPkU4788ItqYRjMnh81Fiqo/8eH9gBuNE2uTKFdCMEkD2wp6WJCdq2xnfQQTsBPX1PDeP3Txf3HVjO/p0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061513404ce8e514@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:40:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FKeG3t009265 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.austin360.com/music/content/music/xl/;COXnetJSessionIDbuild78=CwR9RNFbonsqEp5fDBV3JBGIUj778i1fB4XYwIzb2dnwuxpSDPaG!959416843?urac=%60LcQYMbKVYXX%60XURcX\XZY]TWX\XWY_V_XTXcXZX%60YcUUY%60Y]Y[SWTZTTT]TVTVT^TcSZYYWcVTV_XXWcXXWUY[Y[RaWcYTV]YcWVXZWVYTWaY_Y_W%60XbX\W\RXR&urvf=11188679656650.39855956345043253 On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:11:15PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > [ ] XL > > Bravissimo. > > > > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:24PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > > What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens > > > > > to be a mass-appeal gadget. > > > > > > > > *EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. > > > > > > I don't understand "excellent". Please mark the right box: > > > > > > [ ] XXS > > > [ ] XS > > > [ ] S > > > [ ] M > > > [ ] M1 > > > [ ] M2 > > > [ ] L > > > [ ] XL > > > [ ] XXL > > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:40:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKedee026227 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:40:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:40:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1878@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:40:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3322718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:40:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FKUcSW007979 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:30:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 25521 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 20:30:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:30:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615203037.GB24038@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <20050615193835.GB95943@words-l.org> <193653730.20050615142518@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <193653730.20050615142518@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:25:18PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 1:38 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> In Chicago, I and older farts than me have recently > DMH> formed the ACRU. > > And the acronym refers to??? American Civil Rights Union??? RESPONSIBILITIES. Jeeze From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:41:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKfGee026301 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:41:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:41:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC18CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:41:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3322802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:41:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FKVEpt008084 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:31:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 25640 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 20:31:14 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:31:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050615203111.GC24038@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> <20050615194151.GD95943@words-l.org> <1478156269.20050615142619@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1478156269.20050615142619@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:26:19PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 1:41 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > DMH> ... what can you do with a pathetic system? > > It is a mystery, my child, but I'm sure you can enlighten all of us. > Is there a particular pathetic system you'd like to tell us what to do > with? You didn't say "grasshopper"? Damn! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:50:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKoNee026852 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:50:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:50:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC18FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:50:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3324222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:50:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKoLEk010529 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:50:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so31381nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.35 with SMTP id w35mr111696nzg; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:50:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K5l8CXGV6XkwPGYZv6+BLk+fy+fm//qv73v8tTdE21OWXY9afeAHvtDv20WnttvdCVwWYr4SHxYgSjtUwChsAO4tc5nkxjAOh90zIrjsida5kMfiWALfOz8Ty4i2sQSjfFC0K1LyDdh/v0apJSEwIi+CPonldG2sy3khbzxL/ZE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050615135063c8b4ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:50:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: <20050615202108.GC19420@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <20050615193542.GA95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615131231590f5f@mail.gmail.com> <20050615202108.GC19420@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FKoMEk010534 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > I just referred to my brain and it is indeeed true. This is emblamatic of your persona. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 15:51:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FKp7ee026887 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:51:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:51:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1905@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:51:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3324291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:51:03 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKp2Y9010678 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:51:02 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050615205102m92008i3soe>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:51:02 +0000 Message-ID: <07be01c571eb$f600d4b0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> <01c501c5713f$8330a9d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <1962914901.20050614215304@gailndan.com> <022401c57166$450b52a0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <839717746.20050615081157@gailndan.com> <025a01c571da$0dfa64d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <19269693.20050615141438@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:51:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: My apologies to your learned brother. FYI, Reynolds has gotten on the radar in Washington. The Washington Times (aka Rev. Moon's right-wing rag) has picked up the story. This is gaining traction and the Downing Street Memo isn't. Not yet perfect indeed! Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day > 6/15/2005, 12:42 PM, David Guy Fetzer wrote: > > DGF> First, your friend who's read everything on JFK's assassination > reminds me > > Actually, it is one of my brothers, who is principal of a 4000 student > high school in suburban Chicago. Besides education degrees he has an > MA in History (US). His kids are named, for example, Jackson and > Grant and so forth. He's not really a conspiracy nut, and he doesn't > have a "pet theory" or anything. And he doesn't see a common thread > of truth through any of them, from Warren Commission to anyone else. > > DGF> of Dale, the conspiracy nut, on "King Of The Hill". Watch for the > re-run of > DGF> the episode where he goes to Dallas and thinks his theory is wrong > and the > DGF> government is wonderful. Hilarious stuff! > > Hmmm.....I like KOTH, but my wife hates it. But with both a TiVo and > an HD DVR, we often watch separate things....and many together. Plus > we work somewhat different hours. KOTH reminds me of too many people > I know....not just in Idaho, but in TX and KS and NE and IL and a > bunch of other places I've lived and people I've known. > > DGF> Second, the Flight 800 theories are what caused the departure of > Pierre > DGF> Salinger from ABC News. Seems he was coming up with conspiracy > theories > DGF> instead of good stories more often than they liked. > > Hadn't known that, but fits. > > DGF> Let's just see if this Reynolds guy can prove his theories. If he > can't, no > DGF> problem. > > Yeah, like always, "show me the proof". Of course I thought they had > enough proof on MJ, too, but.....and on OJ too.... > > Oh well.....not yet a perfect world. > > So watcha do down there? > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:07:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FL7jee028414 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:07:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:07:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC195A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:57:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3324771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:57:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FKvikh011479 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:57:44 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5FKvhcT029948 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:57:43 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5FKvhKL029946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:57:43 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:57:43 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I am... Message-ID: <20050615205743.GB29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a70506151338752bb501@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506151338752bb501@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:38:00PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = no longer a Twix virgin. Like, the candy bar, or something else. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:07:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FL7jee028415 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:07:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:07:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC19C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:06:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3324659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:06:40 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FKucXi011336 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:56:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 36098 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 20:56:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:56:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050615205637.GA33213@words-l.org> References: <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513404ce8e514@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061513404ce8e514@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:40:15PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > http://www.austin360.com/music/content/music/xl/;COXnetJSessionIDbuild78=CwR9RNFbonsqEp5fDBV3JBGIUj778i1fB4XYwIzb2dnwuxpSDPaG!959416843?urac=%60LcQYMbKVYXX%60XURcX\XZY]TWX\XWY_V_XTXcXZX%60YcUUY%60Y]Y[SWTZTTT]TVTVT^TcSZYYWcVTV_XXWcXXWUY[Y[RaWcYTV]YcWVXZWVYTWaY_Y_W%60XbX\W\RXR&urvf=11188679656650.39855956345043253 My application program (The Bat!) is breaking on this. "COXnetJSessionIDbuild78". GTFOH ... Could you post an S-sized addy? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:08:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FL8ree028469 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:08:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:08:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1995@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:08:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3325891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:08:53 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FL8r7O012611 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:08:53 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2005061521085211300q0g0ie>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:08:52 +0000 Message-Id: <200506152108.j5FL8r7O012611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I am... Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:08:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050615205743.GB29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> thread-index: AcVx7ODw/U/bhmq3ScWuwJLKt/Ci/QAAW7Iw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of steph >Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:58 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: I am... > >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:38:00PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >= no longer a Twix virgin. > >Like, the candy bar, or something else. > Candy bar, I hope, otherwise TMI! ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:12:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLCoee028710 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:12:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:12:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC19E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:12:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3326097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:12:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FLCnc6013070 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:12:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so48243nzo for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.33.19 with SMTP id g19mr96081nzg; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b4+gN6L3e29QszRSAxHcPiPbbXB6ig/74eCcnRF4Pj/mM2aaJMv5WefzSgFqtpZXW1lkaHkWxBvU0ZkCzbTqEv3PKVQcT/4YkcZntDaRc1Nt54AddajuM8TiKq2fQNZriEnTczlJzR7vnV7y92M6/s9AL47TfwTf2W4wyvsl5AY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061514121fb3c78c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:12:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I am... In-Reply-To: <200506152108.j5FL8r7O012611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050615205743.GB29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> <200506152108.j5FL8r7O012611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FLCnc6013074 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: English Language Discussion Group > >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of steph > >Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:58 PM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Re: I am... > > > >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:38:00PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >= no longer a Twix virgin. > > > >Like, the candy bar, or something else. > > > > Candy bar, I hope, otherwise TMI! Oh, you know you're curious. But yes, the candy bar. I hit the wrong button, and that's what I got. Too sweet. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:15:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLFree028944 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:15:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:15:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1A1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:15:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3326354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:15:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FLFqYi013608 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:15:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so45087nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.19 with SMTP id o19mr117259nzo; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:15:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z5VQ9QXQV+RYXrJ+7ukXPCMkKL9T2B3OF0IoKrpasGB56e2F5kb7xbvb1pr0a33rO1uJwdMOM69rslu+ZgGDG3O2uQSU/nwjwZ81g1iO+tm4fi33tNSrTTY1DX1LDquatLULf3EbG4lhzOd/h2V2nug4JmWF5r3eg+ZspQUld54= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506151415795245e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:15:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <20050615205637.GA33213@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513404ce8e514@mail.gmail.com> <20050615205637.GA33213@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FLFqYi013610 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:40:15PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > http://www.austin360.com/music/content/music/xl/;COXnetJSessionIDbuild78=CwR9RNFbonsqEp5fDBV3JBGIUj778i1fB4XYwIzb2dnwuxpSDPaG!959416843?urac=%60LcQYMbKVYXX%60XURcX\XZY]TWX\XWY_V_XTXcXZX%60YcUUY%60Y]Y[SWTZTTT]TVTVT^TcSZYYWcVTV_XXWcXXWUY[Y[RaWcYTV]YcWVXZWVYTWaY_Y_W%60XbX\W\RXR&urvf=11188679656650.39855956345043253 > > My application program (The Bat!) is breaking on this. > > "COXnetJSessionIDbuild78". GTFOH ... > > Could you post an S-sized addy? No, thank you. Gmail finds it beautifully. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:17:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLGwee028994 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:16:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:17:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC19D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:16:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3325794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:16:57 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FL6uww012465 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:06:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 40339 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 21:06:56 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:06:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand Message-ID: <20050615210655.GA38083@words-l.org> References: <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <20050615193542.GA95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615131231590f5f@mail.gmail.com> <20050615202108.GC19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615135063c8b4ff@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050615135063c8b4ff@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:50:21PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > I just referred to my brain and it is indeeed true. > > This is emblamatic of your persona. Em-blame-atic? I LOVE it! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:24:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLOMee029582 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:24:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:24:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1A3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:24:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3326744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:24:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FLOL6F014428 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:24:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so40445nzk for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr108271nzc; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=j3h/+Xh2H+DIlOlNJ3lfnwzoX/t8Vd8RuP6L5foYO/CLsYUqO9nOms8ksjXv9ldvD7ri2m61y+EW2EmRnEn5N59sJ1eMvaviWi/03ablFpyGPPD+qisZumUC8YVTI6Zu0WtJXJGJk3F/BMYXi85hsmToCD5AqV2NsOE8N7l3lDg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061514243b8efec5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:24:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: <20050615210655.GA38083@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <20050615193542.GA95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615131231590f5f@mail.gmail.com> <20050615202108.GC19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615135063c8b4ff@mail.gmail.com> <20050615210655.GA38083@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FLOM6F014429 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:50:21PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > I just referred to my brain and it is indeeed true. > > > > This is emblamatic of your persona. > > Em-blame-atic? I LOVE it! Musta been Freudian... Did you know I lost my verginity in a vending machine? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:25:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLP2ee029716 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:25:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:25:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1A48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:25:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3326807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:25:02 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FLP1L9014499 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:25:01 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:25:01 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:24:50 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: I am... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What would you have gotten from the right button? BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/15/05 5:12 PM >>> Oh, you know you're curious. But yes, the candy bar. I hit the wrong button, and that's what I got. Too sweet. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:35:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLZIee031271 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1A1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:27:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3326935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:27:51 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FLRoBM014764 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:27:50 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:27:50 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:27:42 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In or to ? BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/15/05 5:24 PM >>> Did you know I lost my verginity in a vending machine? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:35:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLZIee031269 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1A3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:34:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3327213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:34:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FLYEss015229 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:34:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so53987nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr110013nzb; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TxwEMWp9E8iYdwmMxkxFxOqV2MqyC0zW27nWFMxRoVmU1snYvLOfVhxRd4l+4JB/ZWjSWFQtDRU3mY9TVmpIA0K13prFKrq2Ubvu3eAs12qUssiSZiKg6voUlZvuEE/i+GmasAl+YOLYiutL52fPTwEuheStcp+ClPkUMzWDH38= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061514345deed093@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:34:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FLYEss015230 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That would be telling.:) On 6/15/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > In or to ? > > BrP > > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/15/05 5:24 PM >>> > Did you know I lost my verginity in a vending machine? > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:35:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLZIee031266 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1A4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:25:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3326363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:25:56 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FLFtL8013623 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:15:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 44400 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 21:15:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:15:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I am... Message-ID: <20050615211555.GA43534@words-l.org> References: <20050615205743.GB29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> <200506152108.j5FL8r7O012611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061514121fb3c78c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061514121fb3c78c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 04:12:48PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/15/05, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: English Language Discussion Group > > >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of steph > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:58 PM > > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Subject: Re: I am... > > > > > >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:38:00PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >= no longer a Twix virgin. > > > > > >Like, the candy bar, or something else. > > > > > > > Candy bar, I hope, otherwise TMI! > > Oh, you know you're curious. But yes, the candy bar. I hit the wrong > button, and that's what I got. Too sweet. So, how's Twix? Ahahahaha...I bravo me... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:35:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLZIee031270 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1A8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:34:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3327253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:34:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FLYlBC015276 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:34:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so44523nzk for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.18 with SMTP id l18mr122492nzl; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:34:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EONczABsYaDwFuW6TGuBBsULCa16SIjHhHQZz+ovQEG9yf+dDKDL4AdG4X13OedT5RyN2QsEZUs95U2+Um8c4bq4mC8Z/vSPcdiY+pvMdAdxEIPlzVfIX4ZOPOus4kdPivV/+E/ZiHUuFtTHbRuWn66XS369BnNdl4E+fQruP6g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050615143465f37671@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:34:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I am... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FLYlBC015277 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > What would you have gotten from the right button? Something juuuuuuuuust right.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:35:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLZIee031263 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1A5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:25:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3326831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:25:17 -0400 Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FLPFh6014534 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:25:15 -0400 Received: from conversion.post5.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0II500F01A4SJD@asu.edu> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.110.107]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) with ESMTP id <0II500F02A4SJB@asu.edu> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [149.169.182.174] ([149.169.182.174]) by smtp.asu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/asu_smtp_relay,nullclient,tcp_wrapped) with ESMTP id j5FLORj6012404 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:26 -0700 From: Hank Harken Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-reply-to: <20050615183418.GA66507@words-l.org> To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <20050615212426.21838@smtp.asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20050615183418.GA66507@words-l.org> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >The word was used to distinguish it from "system(s) program". >> >The distinction follows the one the between the "user" and >> >the "administrator". Since gmail revolutionized interpersonal >> >communication, fewer and fewer people have run complete, self- >> >contained email programs or editors on machines administrated >> >by others. Hence, the term is obsolete. Alas! >> >> I don't think it's obsolete. At least, not yet. >> Many people can't tolerate web-based email having experienced >> good email clients (I'm not including Outlook or Entourage as >> being "good" email clients). >> >> Besides, you can use email clients with a gmail account. >> Take a look at the "features" link. You can access gmail >> via POP. > >I have a very easy excuse. I was being "flip". Flip is in. >Anyway, given a PC, you are frequently master of the whole >machine, so e.g. installing a device driver isn't different >from running a mail program. There is no need to call the >latter an "application program". Using a personal computing device, do you differentiate between an application (program) and a utility (program) ? Is the term utility (program) synonymous with system(s) program ? Does a device driver enable the OS to do something it couldn't do before regardless of the application (program) ? (not challenging, just seeking clarification) I'm thinking the word "program" has largely been dropped because the word is "understood" (crossover to another discussion thread) within a computing context. - Hank (Have to leave - I'm away from the computer for the next couple of weeks. You don't remember me. I was here briefly a long time ago when Brad recommended I visit Words-l. I may see one or more of you in Lexington on July 7) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:35:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLZIef031271 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1A7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:35:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3327265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:35:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FLZP1C015315 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:35:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so54537nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.19 with SMTP id s19mr131619nzc; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DVO7QcZhuyT23SvYDusF+aItinIly0qqKgXwLaAT1uLPO623np7NWujxTpUXVfNUtblRQLjRG4dojRd/0Ej0xhT7/qlD34EO7gYXJJPbitYirL//E2lsQRIpjnZ6+B4+AMyVIQycB1GRK6q8/mN5FUQMMMB/e9wiZ/zwV1Yc2Ks= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061514356675256c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:35:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I am... In-Reply-To: <20050615211555.GA43534@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050615205743.GB29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> <200506152108.j5FL8r7O012611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061514121fb3c78c@mail.gmail.com> <20050615211555.GA43534@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5FLZP1C015316 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > So, how's Twix? > > Ahahahaha...I bravo me... Silly Rabbit! Twix are for kids! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 16:38:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FLc6ee031560 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:38:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:38:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1A9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:38:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3327386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:38:02 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FLbuJB015571 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:37:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1A8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:37:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200506152137.j5FLbuJB015571@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:37:55 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Do you ever say... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:24:26 -0700, Hank Harken wrote: >- Hank >(Have to leave - I'm away from the computer for the next >couple of weeks. You don't remember me. I was here briefly >a long time ago when Brad recommended I visit Words-l. >I may see one or more of you in Lexington on July 7) Yes, you may ... Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 17:12:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FMC3ee002777 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:12:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:12:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1BB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:12:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3328992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:12:03 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FM22Ou018328 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:02:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 67566 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 22:02:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:02:02 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050615220202.GA67284@words-l.org> References: <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513404ce8e514@mail.gmail.com> <20050615205637.GA33213@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506151415795245e6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506151415795245e6@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 04:15:52PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:40:15PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > http://www.austin360.com/music/content/music/xl/;COXnetJSessionIDbuild78=CwR9RNFbonsqEp5fDBV3JBGIUj778i1fB4XYwIzb2dnwuxpSDPaG!959416843?urac=%60LcQYMbKVYXX%60XURcX\XZY]TWX\XWY_V_XTXcXZX%60YcUUY%60Y]Y[SWTZTTT]TVTVT^TcSZYYWcVTV_XXWcXXWUY[Y[RaWcYTV]YcWVXZWVYTWaY_Y_W%60XbX\W\RXR&urvf=11188679656650.39855956345043253 > > > > My application program (The Bat!) is breaking on this. > > > > "COXnetJSessionIDbuild78". GTFOH ... > > > > Could you post an S-sized addy? > > No, thank you. Gmail finds it beautifully. What do you mean "no, thank you"? I didn't offer you shit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 17:13:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FMDHee002917 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:13:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:13:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1BB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:13:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3329066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:13:17 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FM3GTk018443 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:03:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 67839 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 22:03:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:03:16 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand Message-ID: <20050615220316.GB67284@words-l.org> References: <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <20050615193542.GA95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615131231590f5f@mail.gmail.com> <20050615202108.GC19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615135063c8b4ff@mail.gmail.com> <20050615210655.GA38083@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061514243b8efec5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061514243b8efec5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 04:24:21PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:50:21PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > I just referred to my brain and it is indeeed true. > > > > > > This is emblamatic of your persona. > > > > Em-blame-atic? I LOVE it! > > Musta been Freudian... > > Did you know I lost my verginity in a vending machine? If you tip it at the correct angle and shake it it might fall out. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 17:19:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FMJdee003626 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:19:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:19:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1B8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:19:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3329419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:19:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5FM9bQ0019038 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:09:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 70838 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Jun 2005 22:09:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:09:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... Message-ID: <20050615220937.GC67284@words-l.org> References: <20050615183418.GA66507@words-l.org> <20050615212426.21838@smtp.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050615212426.21838@smtp.asu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:26PM -0700, Hank Harken wrote: > >Anyway, given a PC, you are frequently master of the whole > >machine, so e.g. installing a device driver isn't different > >from running a mail program. There is no need to call the > >latter an "application program". > > Using a personal computing device, do you differentiate between > an application (program) and a utility (program) ? Is the > term utility (program) synonymous with system(s) program ? Perhaps. But I almost never talk about these things. > Does a device driver enable the OS to do something it couldn't > do before regardless of the application (program) ? Yes, if it's enabling the use of a device unrelated to the application. > (not challenging, just seeking clarification) I think you are challenging. > I'm thinking the word "program" has largely been dropped > because the word is "understood" (crossover to another > discussion thread) within a computing context. That's probably true. I do use the word "program" because I don't like "app" or "utility" or "software". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 17:52:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FMqgee007105 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:52:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:52:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1C2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:52:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3330997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:52:41 -0400 Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FMqf3Y022445 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:52:41 -0400 Received: from conversion.post5.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0II500L01E5JEU@asu.edu> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:51:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.110.107]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) with ESMTP id <0II500L5UE5J92@asu.edu> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:51:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from [149.169.182.174] ([149.169.182.174]) by smtp.asu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/asu_smtp_relay,nullclient,tcp_wrapped) with ESMTP id j5FMpIj6017594 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:51:18 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:51:18 -0700 From: Hank Harken Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-reply-to: <20050615220937.GC67284@words-l.org> To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <20050615225118.20525@smtp.asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20050615220937.GC67284@words-l.org> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:26PM -0700, Hank Harken wrote: >> >Anyway, given a PC, you are frequently master of the whole >> >machine, so e.g. installing a device driver isn't different >> >from running a mail program. There is no need to call the >> >latter an "application program". >> >> Using a personal computing device, do you differentiate between >> an application (program) and a utility (program) ? Is the >> term utility (program) synonymous with system(s) program ? > >Perhaps. But I almost never talk about these things. Perhaps you should. It may make you feel better. :-) >> Does a device driver enable the OS to do something it couldn't >> do before regardless of the application (program) ? > >Yes, if it's enabling the use of a device unrelated >to the application. > >> (not challenging, just seeking clarification) > >I think you are challenging. Better than being among the challenged. :-) tootles. - Hank From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:17:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FNHBee009543 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:17:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:17:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1CF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:17:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3332048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:17:11 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FNHAVo024623 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:17:10 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615231710.FAHC13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:17:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615231710.ZAFU1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:17:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0B6F1.90404@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:17:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061506524d1bd992@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061506524d1bd992@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>>>>1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. >>>>>2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. >>>>>3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. >>>>> >>>>> >>>Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? >>> >>> >>You could say something like "I could hardly make them understand me in >>English" -- though that sounds a wee bit awkward to me. >> >> > >I rate it as more natural than #3. > > So do I. I consider "a wee bit awkward" -- well, a . I found #3 strange, though not . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:26:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FNQeee010493 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:26:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:26:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681B1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:26:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3332436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:26:35 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FNQZKZ025394 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:26:35 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615232635.FKBR13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:26:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615232634.ZCUI1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:26:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0B926.7050500@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:26:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >I know we went through this long ago, but remind me please: surely all >or most of these pictures were taken in the days before digital >cameras were common, and therefore they were all/mostly images scanned >from paper photos. Where are those paper pictures, or their negatives? > > Good question. I know where mine are -- in shoeboxes in a closet (except for the pictures I mailed to Kentucky yesterday). I don't know where anybody else's are. I also don't know where the ones of things like Alyce in the xmas pageant might be at this point. And I don't know what abht did with the picture of Giggles's legs that SHE STOLE FROM ME. (Note to the and among us: Abht said all along that she would not necessarily return pictures we mailed her to gif for us. I am joking about her having stolen that picture, but the fact is that I no longer have it.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:30:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FNUBee010771 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:30:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:30:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681B20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:30:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3332550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:30:11 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FNUApM025598 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:30:10 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615233010.FNOM13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:30:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615233010.ZDVR1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:30:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0B9FD.3070109@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:30:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: > There was definitely >bitchy passive aggressive finger-pointing going on--not so much this >time, but before. > > How can finger-pointing be passive aggressive? This is another indication that I really don't understand what that term (passive aggressive) means. I thought it involved indirectness. But finger-pointing sounds pretty direct to me. And I'll ask you what I just asked Dan: Who/what were the fingers pointing at? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:31:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FNViee010906 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:31:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:31:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681B26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:31:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3332221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:31:44 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FNLhCb025013 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:21:43 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5FNLJOa028754 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:21:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:21:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: CU update Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ah, yes, coffee. Linens, Etc. Thanks for asking, Dan. To my delight, there is a lounge complete with coffe pot (and hot water pot) just down the hall on my floor. I go to get my first cup 6-6:30 am - by then, someone has always started a pot. But there is coffee there - standard American, of course - so if I ever go for coffee and it has not been brewed yet, I will simply brew some. I put money in the donation basket every day. Also, there are free newspapers downstairs - always USAToday and a local paper - and someimes a NYTimes. And we get clean linens/towels weekly. I tossed some old towels in my suitcase that I could toss at the end of the trip if necessary, but I will probably have no use for them. (And my fitted sheet was long enough for my extra-length bed, though that of my suitemate was not.) My room and suite are quite nice - large with a fairly large sitting room, a small refrigeratos (no egg slots), and a small microwave. The bathroom is quite large and has two basins, etc. I also have a nice suite-mate - a nun from CA. She is staying only one week - and it appears that I will have the suite to myself after she leaves on Sunday! Meals are a bit of a problem, especially dinner. Construction has closed some campus eating places - those open all close at 6 p.m. and campers of various sorts and ages overrun them during mealtime. But in my residence hall there is a lovely lunch place (11:30-1:30 only) with a coffee bar. I sometimes do not get any dinner, because of my schedule. I was scheduled for activities from 3:30-9 p.m. yesterday, for instance. Today, I put half my lunch in the refrigerator for tonight. For breakfast, I try to have something in the room - half a bagel and an orange, or yoghurt that I picked up the day before. I expect to be coming back the next two summers - I will know much better what to bring. There are a few extras occasionally - tonight, we get ice cream downstairs at 8:30, and there are some special dinners coming up - one in the Jesuit Garden next week. I have also found the Jesuit dining hall - now I need to find a Jesuit who will invite me to dinner. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:32:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FNWTee010974 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:32:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:32:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1CF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:22:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3332238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:22:24 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FNMOAu025058 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:22:24 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615232223.FGBC13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:22:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615232223.ZBSL1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:22:23 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0B82B.90000@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:22:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >>>Perhaps I'll remind you of the salient detail that you are the one who >>>deleted them without first checking if they were secured. >>> >>> >NM> Why do I need to be reminded of that? It in no way changes the loss. > >Two reasons. I've had the feeling that there has been some "finger >pointing" going on. And second that, as I mentioned before, we each >need to assume our own PERSONAL responsibility for things over which >we have control, and if deleting files from a server doesn't fit in >there, I sure don't know where it fits. > > ? Somebody way back in an earlier discussion of this topic told me to quit feeling guilty about it. Iow, I have never failed to assume . Re , who/what are the fingers pointing at? Me? (I did, btw, check to make sure that some of the files had made the transition before deleting them from the server. Later I found that some of the last ones had vanished -- that I hadn't been persistent in checking all the way to the bottom of the list. But most made that first move ok.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:39:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FNdVee011357 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:39:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:39:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00681BEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:39:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3332948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:39:30 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FNdUIl026291 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:39:30 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615233930.FYFM13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:39:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615233929.ZGHR1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:39:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0BC2A.1040206@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:39:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >>>>>1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. >>>>>2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. >>>>>3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. >>>>> >>>>> >>>Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? >>> >>> >>You could say something like "I could hardly make them understand me in >>English" -- though that sounds a wee bit awkward to me. >> >> >It's more than awkward, I think. (1) and (3) are about making "myself" >do something. Natalie's proposal is about making someone else ("them") >do something, and while this largely means the same thing, it carries >quite different baggage, e.g. the suggestion that the problem is their >fault rather than mine. > > I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure that I agree that "make them understand me" suggests that the problem is their fault rather than mine. Neither imho places blame for the problem. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:44:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FNiAee011752 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:44:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:44:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1D24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:44:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3333030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:44:09 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FNi7qj026596 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:44:08 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615234407.GDFD13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:44:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050615234407.ZHNL1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:44:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:44:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > As has been suggested in several of my comments to >Natalie on this, there's an old saying that "when you point your finger >at someone there are three fingers pointing back at you". > > ? How do I fit into this? I've said that I have no idea who lost the files, and that is true. I lost track of their meanderings. I've said that I am responsible for having failed to keep copies on the msstate.edu server, which I could have done since we were not kicked off for lack of space, though I thought it was tacky to take up the huge amount of space that picture files take up when it wasn't necessary. (Remember that we're talking about a good while back -- space was more limited back then.) >But...an American of this day and age assume personal responsibility? >Naaahhhh....not bloodly likely. > > Certainly not our Pres. But I don't think in general that there's any big difference between such behavior in and in the past. Why do you think there is? And why "an American"? George Bush, thank the gopods, is not the . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 18:45:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5FNjeee012014 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:45:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:45:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681B44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:45:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3333099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:45:40 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5FNjdcj026700 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:45:39 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112396054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:45:38 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615164619.02e17db0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:46:56 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: E-Bay In-Reply-To: <200506151659.j5FGxx2V008060@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506151659.j5FGxx2V008060@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They are snail mailing catalogs now. They are also on line. www.ebay.com/catalog From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 19:14:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G0EJee014923 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:14:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:14:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1DD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3333868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:18 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G04HHK028286 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:17 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616000417.WUZZ16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616000416.PAJF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0C1FB.70402@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:04:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I received a > catalog for the Lake George Area yesterday. Order a pitcher in The Cave in Hague. Or I think the name was The Cave. It was something like that. And it was underground -- across the street from the dock. It may no longer exist, of course. The pitchers I joined in the partaking of were in 1964. In fact, I think I tried to find it on one of my relatively recent trips to that area and failed. Another thing you can do: canoe out to the island that's not far from Hague and make smores around a campfire. Sparky and I did that one night and ate so many smores that we almost got sick. Sparky was a counselor at Camp Ticonderoga, a boys' camp not far from Lake George Camp for Girls, which was where I taught skiing. He and I dated all that summer. That was a glorious summer except for the fact that civil rights workers were being murdered in Mississippi. What a weird, weird world and time that was. Darrell, the grass-cutter, and I were talking about that today -- talking about how insane things were back then. He's a fascinating person. I had thought he was close to my age but learned today that he's quite a bit younger. He graduated from Wingfield High School in '76. And this reminds me that I practiced zooming today. I had really no camera-play time at all -- was busy, busy all day doing stuff in preparation for tomorrow night's party. But at one point when Darrell and his helpers were way back in the back of the backyard, I realized that it was a perfect opportunity to practice zooming, so I grabbed the camera and sat on the deck for a few minutes taking pictures. (These are LARGE pictures, I should add.) The biggest problem was that I couldn't see what I was taking pictures of -- couldn't see anything at all at that distance through the horrific view-finder. So I just snapped away on the chance something would be in the picture. I took six pictures. Only one of the six was a total loser, but only one was what I'd call decent. I'll put the cropping down to Darrell's face from that one online right now and give the url for it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 19:14:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G0EJee014924 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:14:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:14:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1DE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:08:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3333958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:08:00 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G080o3028508 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:08:00 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616000800.WWIR16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:08:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616000759.PBGD11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:07:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0C2DB.1080607@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:07:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Zooming on Darrell: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/darrell.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 19:15:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G0F7ee015059 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:15:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:15:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681BB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:15:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3334275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:15:06 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G0F5Mm029002 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:15:06 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050616001504015000r9lke>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:15:05 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Do you ever say... Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:15:01 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > SET ADAM/STATUS="Geeky" > > Ben Ahem. You do not have SETPRV or SYSPRV. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 19:18:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G0IEee015194 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:18:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:18:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1E18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:18:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3334359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:18:14 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G0ICZf029242 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:18:13 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061602163005069 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:16:30 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:18:11 +0200 Message-ID: <42B0C541.7010801@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:18:09 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> <20050612033844.GA37811@words-l.org> <42ABB26C.1010500@maynor.net> <20050612043259.GB64773@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050612043259.GB64773@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2005 00:18:11.0950 (UTC) FILETIME=[E18F58E0:01C57208] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog skrev 12.06.2005 06:32: >On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 10:56:28PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>I guess we all look the same to you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Yep. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Cutting corners on the megapixels as usual ... why >>>am I not surprised? >>> >>> >>Yep. If you lived your formative years across an ocean from here, you >>cross 7's. And that is that. >> >> > >Oh, that. Well, "cross the 7s" is not that literal. It refers >to the seven seas. > > And which are the 7 seas? I am sitting in my dorm-room in Victoria, BC, Canada, with the Sight reduction tables for air navigation (they are simpler than the ones for nautical use) and the Nautical almanac published by the Stationary Office (Her Majesty´s Nautical Almanac Office), and I don't find a definition of the 7 seas. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 19:40:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G0eeee016833 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:40:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:40:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1E6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:40:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3334972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:40:39 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G0ecWA031459 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:40:39 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061602385605086 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:38:56 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:40:37 +0200 Message-ID: <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:40:34 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for the Franzens References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2005 00:40:37.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[03B0F570:01C5720C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 14.06.2005 13:35: > Marcia Franzen wrote: > >> Well, I could find now town or city call Lena in Sweden. However, >> there are two parishes (in the church meaning, not county) that have >> or have had the name Lena. The one was in Skara diocese in the region >> of Västergötland. The other parish, which still exists, is in Uppsala >> diocese in the region of Uppland. Why? >> Do you know the poem, En fattig munk från Skara? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 19:44:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G0htee017141 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:43:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:44:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1E25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:43:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3335033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:43:54 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G0hsHH031736 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:43:54 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616004354.WTWZ9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:43:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616004354.JISO7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:43:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0CB45.2000709@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:43:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Kristin References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AEC0B1.6010107@akad.ee> <42AF5342.3080002@maynor.net> <42B06044.3090100@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42B06044.3090100@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >> And I like that it speaks >> French. > > ?? Some information at its margin about where it was produced? I just looked at it again and see now that it was not the envelope itself that spoke French. It was apparently your post office that did. Stamped on it are "lettre" and "par avion." > No temptation to click-cluck the bubbles? No, I have never click-clucked bubbles. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:15:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1F7ee020613 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:15:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:15:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1EBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:06 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1F6Au001721 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:06 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616011506.XHIK9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616011506.JQIG7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0D295.8060107@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:15:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: taking back my words References: <42B06732.2020206@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42B06732.2020206@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Some time ago I pulled myself together and asked my money back, and yes, Thanks, Kristin. You reminded me to do something I'd meant to do but was too busy to care enough about to remember. When somebody from ancestry.com called me last week about renewing my subscriptions, he mentioned that among my subscriptions was one to Ancestry Magazine. I vaguely remember having said yes to that a year ago -- to try it for a year. But I never got it. I had assumed that the order was bungled and hadn't realized that I'd paid for it. I told him that I would not renew that subscription since it would be kind of dumb to renew a subscription to a phantom magazine. He said he didn't have access to the records that would show why I hadn't gotten it but that I should call and inquire since I had in fact paid for it. So I just did -- after reading your e-mail. I'm going to get it for a year now free -- not really free, of course, since I paid for it last year. And the nice man said that he was going to bundle together my other ancestry.com subscriptions, which expired at different times, making me get a few months free on some of them and making it cheaper overall. So good things came from my having to use the nasty telephone. And it was your posting that prompted me to do so. I'm glad your story had a happy ending also! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:17:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1H8ee020820 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:17:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:17:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1F00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:17:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:17:08 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1H7UW001882 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:17:07 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616011707.XIOE9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:17:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616011707.JRAS7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:17:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0D30E.6060706@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:17:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B00A91.1010103@maynor.net> <00df01c571d3$c6ac5cb0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> In-Reply-To: <00df01c571d3$c6ac5cb0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU David Guy Fetzer wrote: > Natalie: > It is. Obviously I'm not a native. ;-) So where was your nativity? (And, in case nobody else has asked -- I'm behind in mail today: does your refrigerator have egg slots, and, if so, how many? Have you ever seen a decapitated chicken?) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:18:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1ISee020922 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:18:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:18:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1EC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:18:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:18:28 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1IRjf001963 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:18:27 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616011827.XJIW9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:18:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616011827.JRMV7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:18:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0D35E.3020908@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:18:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <42AF86F9.50900@maynor.net> <42B06F4C.3080802@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42B06F4C.3080802@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > I must find out about the other newby Natalie referred to. (Are you > sure, Natalie, it wasn't Richard?) It's usually pretty easy to spot Richard's name-changes. This one didn't seem Richardesque. Sorry I can't be more specific, but it's a crazy week. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:31:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1VTee022484 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:31:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:31:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:28 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1LSeA002184 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:28 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616012128.XLPK9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616012127.JSNM7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0D413.2060703@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:21:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The news from Canada References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >and welcome Dave > >I was in T.O. when you signed on and didn't give you a proper >greeting. > > How did you find us, Dave? We're all being because we have not had any new meat in ages and are happy to have some. Usually newbies have to suffer a little bit before becoming full-fledged Meebers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:31:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1VTee022482 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:31:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:31:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1F16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:24:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:24:37 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1ObmQ002467 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:24:37 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616012437.XPDG9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:24:37 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616012437.JTPB7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:24:37 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0D4D0.3090403@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:24:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens >to be a mass-appeal gadget. > > Which is why I would think it would try to be friendly to the masses. If the masses say low and high, which I can't vouch that they do, but which I'd guess they do given how in my masses-type life those are the terms I've heard, then you'd think the camera would use those words also instead of using L to mean high. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:31:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1VTee022485 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:31:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:31:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1EEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:28:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:28:58 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1Sw48002854 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:28:58 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616012858.XTCR9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:28:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616012857.JVEG7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:28:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0D5D5.6070606@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:28:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens >>to be a mass-appeal gadget. >> >> > >*EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. > > I don't get this. What exactly is the point? (I also don't understand the reference to cost and slickness -- there are far more expensive digital cameras out there, including in Circuit City. This one struck me as kind of mid-range.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:33:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1Xgee022758 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:33:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:33:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1F38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:33:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:33:41 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1NefX002356 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:23:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 73941 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:23:39 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:23:39 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... Message-ID: <20050616012339.GA73737@words-l.org> References: <20050615220937.GC67284@words-l.org> <20050615225118.20525@smtp.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050615225118.20525@smtp.asu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:51:18PM -0700, Hank Harken wrote: > >> Does a device driver enable the OS to do something it couldn't > >> do before regardless of the application (program) ? > > > >Yes, if it's enabling the use of a device unrelated > >to the application. > > > >> (not challenging, just seeking clarification) > > > >I think you are challenging. > > Better than being among the challenged. :-) > > tootles. Nice save! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:35:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1ZVee022934 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:35:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:35:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:35:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:35:30 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1ZUPH003325 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:35:30 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616013530.XYYV9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:35:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616013529.JXXR7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:35:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0D75C.7020306@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:35:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B086F8.5050901@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42B086F8.5050901@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >> Do you walk around with an umbrella? > > An opened one? For protection from sun? No. (I probably haven't seen > pictures of MJ with umbrella, that's why I can only guess and ask.) Does Michael Jackson walk around with an umbrella? How do y'all know this stuff? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:36:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1aBee023002 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:36:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:36:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1F3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:36:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:36:10 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1QAK5002668 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:26:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 75752 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:26:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:26:09 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050616012609.GB73737@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <42B0B9FD.3070109@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0B9FD.3070109@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 06:30:05PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >There was definitely > >bitchy passive aggressive finger-pointing going on--not so much this > >time, but before. > > > How can finger-pointing be passive aggressive? This is another > indication that I really don't understand what that term (passive > aggressive) means. I thought it involved indirectness. But > finger-pointing sounds pretty direct to me. And I'll ask you what I > just asked Dan: Who/what were the fingers pointing at? That was an aggressive post! If something amounts to finger-pointing and is indirect then you can call it indirect finger-pointing. I beleve it would be to say "but finger-pointing is direct"! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:38:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1c3ee023161 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:38:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:38:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1F44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:38:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:38:03 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1S2HA002806 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:28:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 76124 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:28:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:28:02 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: E-Bay Message-ID: <20050616012802.GC73737@words-l.org> References: <200506151659.j5FGxx2V008060@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615164619.02e17db0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050615164619.02e17db0@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 04:46:56PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > They are snail mailing catalogs now. They are also on line. > > www.ebay.com/catalog I saw a storefornt yesterday that said it was to be an "ebay dropoff point". How long's this shit been going on? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:38:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1cfee023193 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:38:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:38:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:38:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:38:40 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1Sd21002833 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:28:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 76211 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:28:39 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:28:38 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050616012838.GD73737@words-l.org> References: <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B0C2DB.1080607@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0C2DB.1080607@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 07:07:55PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Zooming on Darrell: > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/darrell.jpg Who the hell is Darrell? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:39:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1cwee023205 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:38:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:39:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:38:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:38:58 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1Svgs002850 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:28:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 76308 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:28:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:28:57 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... Message-ID: <20050616012857.GE73737@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:15:01PM -0400, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > SET ADAM/STATUS="Geeky" > > > > Ben > > Ahem. You do not have SETPRV or SYSPRV. *snok* From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:39:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1dRee023243 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:39:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:39:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:39:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:39:27 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1dQEa003668 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:39:26 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616013926.YBGK9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:39:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616013926.JZLH7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:39:26 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0D849.2060203@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:39:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <20050615112429.GA26859@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B01E2A.1070307@maynor.net> <20050615201555.GA29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050615201555.GA29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >= > Are you still bemoaning other stuff that got lost >= >because of your own actions or inactions as frequently as these >= >pictures? >= > >= Of course. There are some losses that I think about far more often. > >Think about is different from express. > > There are some losses I express more often. Since this particular case is Words-L-related, Words-L is where I would express it. There is life outside of Words-L, in case you aren't aware of that. I feel sure that I've never mentioned the Words-L picture gallery to a non-Wordsler except for mentioning it recently to Stephanie in Lexington. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:40:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1eAee023289 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:40:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:40:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:40:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:40:10 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1U84I003013 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:30:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 77287 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:30:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:30:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! Message-ID: <20050616013008.GF73737@words-l.org> References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> <20050612033844.GA37811@words-l.org> <42ABB26C.1010500@maynor.net> <20050612043259.GB64773@words-l.org> <42B0C541.7010801@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0C541.7010801@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:18:09AM +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog skrev 12.06.2005 06:32: > >On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 10:56:28PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> > >>>>>I guess we all look the same to you. > >>>>> > >>>>Yep. > >>>> > >>>Cutting corners on the megapixels as usual ... why > >>>am I not surprised? > >>> > >>Yep. If you lived your formative years across an ocean from here, you > >>cross 7's. And that is that. > > > >Oh, that. Well, "cross the 7s" is not that literal. It refers > >to the seven seas. > > > > > And which are the 7 seas? > I am sitting in my dorm-room in Victoria, BC, Canada, with the Sight > reduction tables for air navigation (they are simpler than the ones for > nautical use) and the Nautical almanac published by the Stationary > Office (Her Majesty?s Nautical Almanac Office), and I don't find a > definition of the 7 seas. Got me--I don't know either. Maybe Thor Heyerdahl's books have an answer... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:41:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1euee023332 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:40:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:41:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:40:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:40:56 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1Utqv003092 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:30:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 77724 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:30:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:30:55 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Kristin Message-ID: <20050616013055.GG73737@words-l.org> References: <42ADDC41.3060801@maynor.net> <42ADDDD9.9050501@akad.ee> <42AE3840.2050009@maynor.net> <42AEC0B1.6010107@akad.ee> <42AF5342.3080002@maynor.net> <42B06044.3090100@akad.ee> <42B0CB45.2000709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0CB45.2000709@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 07:43:49PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >> And I like that it speaks > >>French. > > > >?? Some information at its margin about where it was produced? > > I just looked at it again and see now that it was not the envelope > itself that spoke French. It was apparently your post office that did. > Stamped on it are "lettre" and "par avion." > > >No temptation to click-cluck the bubbles? > > No, I have never click-clucked bubbles. You can train yourself pretty easily, actually. Just do it a few times and you are on your way. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:41:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1free023399 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:41:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:41:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:41:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:41:53 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1Vphp003136 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:31:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 77893 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:31:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:31:51 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The news from Canada Message-ID: <20050616013151.GA77842@words-l.org> References: <42B0D413.2060703@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0D413.2060703@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:21:23PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >and welcome Dave > > > >I was in T.O. when you signed on and didn't give you a proper > >greeting. > > > > > How did you find us, Dave? We're all being because we have not > had any new meat in ages and are happy to have some. Usually newbies > have to suffer a little bit before becoming full-fledged Meebers. You forgot to add: "Tootles". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:53:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1rdee025226 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:53:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:53:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1F55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:43:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:43:39 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1hdXo004081 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:43:39 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616014339.YEOG9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:43:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616014338.KBEL7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:43:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0D946.4050201@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:43:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42ACCF89.8050701@maynor.net> <42AD22D3.7070105@istori.com> <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <59437517.20050615141808@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <59437517.20050615141808@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > I know Natalie doesn't >know about them, but Natalie, an f stop of 4 lets in MORE light than >one of 8 which lets in more light than one of 16, and so forth. (no, >those aren't only numbers, just examples. > > I knew a good bit about f stops back in the early '70s. But I know nothing about the subject now -- have forgotten all that stuff since it was not of importance to me. >Confusing enough yet, or shall we start Photography Principles 101? > > I don't really give a shit. If it strokes your ego, go for it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:54:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1rdee025233 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:53:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:53:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:45:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:45:21 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1ZL8g003320 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:35:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 79306 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:35:20 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:35:20 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616013520.GB77842@words-l.org> References: <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <42B0D4D0.3090403@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0D4D0.3090403@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:24:32PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens > >to be a mass-appeal gadget. > > > Which is why I would think it would try to be friendly to the masses. > If the masses say low and high, which I can't vouch that they do, but > which I'd guess they do given how in my masses-type life those are the > terms I've heard, then you'd think the camera would use those words also > instead of using L to mean high. You make many excellent and accurate points, except the one about your "masses-type life" and the insinuation that what you tend to think is relevant to mass-appeal. If those are meant to be jokes, however, they are excellent too! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:54:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1rgee025244 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:53:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:54:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:46:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:46:43 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1agBM003445 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:36:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 79979 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:36:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:36:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616013642.GC77842@words-l.org> References: <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <42B0D5D5.6070606@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0D5D5.6070606@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:28:53PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > > >>What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens > >>to be a mass-appeal gadget. > >> > >> > > > >*EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. > > I don't get this. What exactly is the point? (I also don't understand > the reference to cost and slickness -- there are far more expensive > digital cameras out there, including in Circuit City. This one struck > me as kind of mid-range.) Well, perhaps it's considered expensive ... by the masses! ^o^;; From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:54:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1rgee025246 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:53:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:54:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:45:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:45:24 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1jOeB004164 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:45:24 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616014524.YFUS9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:45:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616014523.KBXZ7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:45:23 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0D9AF.4040506@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:45:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44582773.20050615142152@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <44582773.20050615142152@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > Didn't >follow the trial at all. Was just disgusted with the outcome. > > I'm impressed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:54:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1rgee025243 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:53:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:54:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:46:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:46:37 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1kSUa004323 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:46:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:46:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:46:28 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Nut job of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:42:59 -0500, David Guy Fetzer wrote: >Dan: > >First, your friend who's read everything on JFK's assassination reminds me >of Dale, the conspiracy nut, on "King Of The Hill". Watch for the re-run of >the episode where he goes to Dallas and thinks his theory is wrong and the >government is wonderful. Hilarious stuff! > >Second, the Flight 800 theories are what caused the departure of Pierre >Salinger from ABC News. Seems he was coming up with conspiracy theories >instead of good stories more often than they liked. > >Let's just see if this Reynolds guy can prove his theories. If he can't, no >problem. > >Cheers, > >Dave I don't know what to think (if anything) about the theory that's been brought up about the WTCs; but I do know that no mention is made in the 9/11 commission report pieces I've read about the liftoff of military planes from Hancock word of the first tower strike. Since we're not far by air from PA, rumor persists strongly here that our boys shot down that fourth plane. That's a great conspiracy theory. They're always better with some local flavor! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:54:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1rdef025233 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:54:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:54:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:49:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:49:29 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1nSsg004569 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:49:28 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616014928.YIFY9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:49:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616014928.KDOM7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:49:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0DAA3.1020305@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:49:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... References: <20050615183418.GA66507@words-l.org> <20050615212426.21838@smtp.asu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050615212426.21838@smtp.asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hank >(Have to leave - I'm away from the computer for the next >couple of weeks. You don't remember me. I was here briefly >a long time ago when Brad recommended I visit Words-l. >I may see one or more of you in Lexington on July 7) > > In answer to the earlier question, Hank is clearly not just another Richard persona! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:54:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1rdef025226 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:53:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:54:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:48:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:48:18 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1cH2P003579 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:38:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 80370 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:38:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:38:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael Message-ID: <20050616013816.GA79991@words-l.org> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B086F8.5050901@akad.ee> <42B0D75C.7020306@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0D75C.7020306@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:35:24PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >>Do you walk around with an umbrella? > > > >An opened one? For protection from sun? No. (I probably haven't seen > >pictures of MJ with umbrella, that's why I can only guess and ask.) > > Does Michael Jackson walk around with an umbrella? How do y'all know > this stuff? http://www.yearlyumbrellasalesbyperson.com/celebrities From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:54:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1rgef025246 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:54:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:54:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:53:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:53:10 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1r70F005123 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:53:07 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:53:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200506160153.j5G1r70F005123@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:53:07 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:35:42 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:07:07AM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >> On 6/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > Tanaka Akio wrote: >> > >> > >>> >> > >>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. >> > >>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. >> > >>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. >> > >> > >I think the problem has arisen because "understood" is >being thought of as a verb, which it is not. Good point. I find that this thread has interesting implications as I'm thinking about communication. "Make myself understood" is kind of dizzying if you think about it too long. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 20:54:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G1rgef025244 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:54:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:54:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:50:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:50:02 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1o1gE004637 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:50:01 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-5.gwi.net [216.195.163.5]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5G1nvff004200; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:50:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050615214536.01c30038@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:49:50 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! In-Reply-To: <42B0C541.7010801@gmail.com> References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> <20050612033844.GA37811@words-l.org> <42ABB26C.1010500@maynor.net> <20050612043259.GB64773@words-l.org> <42B0C541.7010801@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:18 PM 6/15/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >And which are the 7 seas? In ancient times, the 7 were the Red, Mediterranean, Black, Caspian, and Adriatic Seas, plus the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean. I don't know what the modern grouping would be; generally nowadays, the marine environment is described in terms of the Atlantic, Pacific, Indian, and Arctic oceans---the number of seas, as you would suspect, is much greater than seven. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:05:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G24lee026492 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1F9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:46 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1skQ4005301 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:46 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-5.gwi.net [216.195.163.5]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5G1sga9004792; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050615215305.01c38ad8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:39 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050615214536.01c30038@pop.gwi.net> References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> <20050612033844.GA37811@words-l.org> <42ABB26C.1010500@maynor.net> <20050612043259.GB64773@words-l.org> <42B0C541.7010801@gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615214536.01c30038@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:49 PM 6/15/2005, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 08:18 PM 6/15/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: > >>And which are the 7 seas? > >In ancient times, the 7 were the Red, Mediterranean, Black, Caspian, and >Adriatic Seas, plus the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean. I don't know >what the modern grouping would be; generally nowadays, the marine >environment is described in terms of the Atlantic, Pacific, Indian, and >Arctic oceans---the number of seas, as you would suspect, is much greater >than seven. I forgot to mention that the above list is courtesy of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:05:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G24lee026494 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:05:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1FAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:25 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1xOgM005756 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:24 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616015924.YPHW9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616015924.KHOC7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0DCF7.9020205@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:59:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Frog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This little toadfrog is driving me crazy. I don't want him in the house. But every time I open the back door at night, which I do pretty often, he leaps in, and I have to shove him out. He reminds me of the frog who used to sit at the glass door of my parents' house and stare in, obviously wanting to join us. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:05:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G24lee026491 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:05:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1FA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:58:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:58:08 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1m6Xg004452 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:48:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 86289 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:48:06 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:48:06 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael Message-ID: <20050616014806.GA85539@words-l.org> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44582773.20050615142152@gailndan.com> <42B0D9AF.4040506@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0D9AF.4040506@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:45:19PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > > > Didn't follow the trial at all. Was just disgusted with the outcome. > > > I'm impressed. Wow. I think this is indirect finger-pointing on a massive scale. Dan stated long ago that if something smells ... sapienti satis. Are you insulting Dan's ability to smell the truth? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:05:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G24lee026490 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1F8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:55:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:55:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1jVuR004179 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:45:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 85496 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:45:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:45:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616014530.GA84529@words-l.org> References: <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <59437517.20050615141808@gailndan.com> <42B0D946.4050201@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0D946.4050201@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:43:34PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > > >I know Natalie doesn't > >know about them, but Natalie, an f stop of 4 lets in MORE light than > >one of 8 which lets in more light than one of 16, and so forth. (no, > >those aren't only numbers, just examples. > > > I knew a good bit about f stops back in the early '70s. But I know > nothing about the subject now -- have forgotten all that stuff since it > was not of importance to me. > > >Confusing enough yet, or shall we start Photography Principles 101? > > > I don't really give a shit. If it strokes your ego, go for it. Dan? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:05:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G24lef026490 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:05:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:05:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:01:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:01:18 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1pGjB004830 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:51:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 88141 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:51:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:51:16 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... Message-ID: <20050616015116.GA87448@words-l.org> References: <20050615183418.GA66507@words-l.org> <20050615212426.21838@smtp.asu.edu> <42B0DAA3.1020305@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0DAA3.1020305@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:49:23PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Hank > >(Have to leave - I'm away from the computer for the next > >couple of weeks. You don't remember me. I was here briefly > >a long time ago when Brad recommended I visit Words-l. > >I may see one or more of you in Lexington on July 7) > > > In answer to the earlier question, Hank is clearly not just another > Richard persona! Why does his bumper sticker say "Hank if you are a Richard persona"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:05:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G24lef026492 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:05:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:05:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:35 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1xXjs005776 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:33 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1FAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200506160159.j5G1xXjs005776@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:33 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The Camera Answer To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:56:37 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >Could you post an S-sized addy? HaH! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:05:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G24lee026493 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:05:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1FA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:58:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:58:30 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1wUOd005651 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:58:30 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so194358wri for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.112.2 with SMTP id k2mr255330wrc; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:58:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NSDDemkyLu819cHK/a/4aI1IwER2+Fds5uwm8riNl3RRdcWjcoMDY37Ovi47BOdZbzOsPQAAloaCSeC34EJvxXS+YjPgcKod0KolRUT8Mb9gJvSk9pDp778dDKi9I+jJ/vNihEA3XBPADOuud9qQY+cAtdQMJpLednsMKCfHPYA= Message-ID: <83db447a0506151858288bc221@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:58:30 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <42B0DAA3.1020305@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050615183418.GA66507@words-l.org> <20050615212426.21838@smtp.asu.edu> <42B0DAA3.1020305@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5G24lee026493 On 6/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > In answer to the earlier question, Hank is clearly not just another > Richard persona! ...for which, may we all be grateful. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:15:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2F4ee027342 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681C9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:59 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G1svDh005327 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:57 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200506160154.j5G1svDh005327@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:54:57 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The Camera Answer To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:19:43 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:24PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> > > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> > > > What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens >> > > > to be a mass-appeal gadget. >> > > >> > > *EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. >> > >> > I don't understand "excellent". Please mark the right box: >> > >> > [ ] XXS >> > [ ] XS >> > [ ] S >> > [ ] M >> > [ ] M1 >> > [ ] M2 >> > [ ] L >> > [ ] XL >> > [ ] XXL >> > >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:11:15PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> [ ] XL > >Bravissimo. > Where oh were is a Fest shirt design when you need one? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:15:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2F4ee027343 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681CCA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:12:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:12:32 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G22V87006181 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:02:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 92666 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 02:02:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:02:31 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616020231.GB91880@words-l.org> References: <200506160159.j5G1xXjs005776@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506160159.j5G1xXjs005776@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:59:33PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:56:37 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > > > > >Could you post an S-sized addy? > > HaH! Unfortunately, the answer is no (thank you). Because gmail handles it beautifully. :-( From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:15:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2F4ee027341 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681CC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:09:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:09:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1xJq3005751 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 91461 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:59:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:59:19 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616015919.GA90496@words-l.org> References: <200506160154.j5G1svDh005327@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506160154.j5G1svDh005327@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:54:57PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:19:43 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > >> On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:24PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> > > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> > > > What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens > >> > > > to be a mass-appeal gadget. > >> > > > >> > > *EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. > >> > > >> > I don't understand "excellent". Please mark the right box: > >> > > >> > [ ] XXS > >> > [ ] XS > >> > [ ] S > >> > [ ] M > >> > [ ] M1 > >> > [ ] M2 > >> > [ ] L > >> > [ ] XL > >> > [ ] XXL > >> > > > > >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:11:15PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> [ ] XL > > > >Bravissimo. > > > > Where oh were is a Fest shirt design when you need one? Thank you for the laborious lexical rearrangement of this post. Perhaps you can remedy and redeem the ridiculous top-posting excesses of the "Evil twins"--you know very well whom I mean-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:16:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2Fnee027457 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:16:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1FBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:05:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:05:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1tkL0005401 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:55:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 90174 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:55:45 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:55:45 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! Message-ID: <20050616015545.GA88162@words-l.org> References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> <20050612033844.GA37811@words-l.org> <42ABB26C.1010500@maynor.net> <20050612043259.GB64773@words-l.org> <42B0C541.7010801@gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615214536.01c30038@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050615214536.01c30038@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:49:50PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 08:18 PM 6/15/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > >And which are the 7 seas? > > In ancient times, the 7 were the Red, Mediterranean, Black, ... or, to be more pompous, "Euxine" ... > Caspian, and Adriatic Seas, plus the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean. > I don't know what the modern grouping would be; generally nowadays, the > marine environment is described in terms of the Atlantic, Pacific, Indian, > and Arctic oceans---the number of seas, as you would suspect, is much > greater than seven. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:16:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2Fnee027462 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:16:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1F98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:13:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:13:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G23T3w006265 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:03:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 92849 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 02:03:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:03:29 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frog Message-ID: <20050616020329.GC91880@words-l.org> References: <42B0DCF7.9020205@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0DCF7.9020205@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:59:19PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > This little toadfrog is driving me crazy. I don't want him in the > house. But every time I open the back door at night, which I do pretty > often, he leaps in, and I have to shove him out. He reminds me of the > frog who used to sit at the glass door of my parents' house and stare > in, obviously wanting to join us. This is an allegory about some list member, right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:16:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2Fnee027460 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:16:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC1FDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:11:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:11:17 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G21Dqp006067 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:01:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 92363 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 02:01:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:01:13 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... Message-ID: <20050616020113.GA91880@words-l.org> References: <20050615183418.GA66507@words-l.org> <20050615212426.21838@smtp.asu.edu> <42B0DAA3.1020305@maynor.net> <83db447a0506151858288bc221@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506151858288bc221@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:58:30PM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 6/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > > > In answer to the earlier question, Hank is clearly not just another > > Richard persona! > > ...for which, may we all be grateful. Morally or otherwise? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:16:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2Fnee027464 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:15:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:16:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1FBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:06:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:06:37 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5G1ua4x005507 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:56:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 90338 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 01:56:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:56:36 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand Message-ID: <20050616015636.GA90189@words-l.org> References: <200506160153.j5G1r70F005123@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506160153.j5G1r70F005123@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:53:07PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:35:42 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > > >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:07:07AM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >> On 6/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> > Tanaka Akio wrote: > >> > > >> > >>> > >> > >>> 1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. > >> > >>> 2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. > >> > >>> 3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. > >> > >> > > > >I think the problem has arisen because "understood" is > >being thought of as a verb, which it is not. > > Good point. I find that this thread has interesting implications as I'm > thinking about communication. "Make myself understood" is kind of > dizzying if you think about it too long. That way lies enlightenment ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:17:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2HTee027615 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:17:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:17:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1FA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:17:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3338174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:17:25 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2HPh7007452 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:17:25 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616021725.TCVD26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:17:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616021725.URZU29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:17:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0E130.6060603@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:17:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B0C2DB.1080607@maynor.net> <20050616012838.GD73737@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050616012838.GD73737@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Who the hell is Darrell? > > Darrell Wade. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:21:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2LOee027997 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC1FEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:21:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3338290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:21:24 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2LOGn007846 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:21:24 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616022124.TGRL26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:21:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616022124.UUCP29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:21:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0E21F.2030705@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:21:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <42B0D4D0.3090403@maynor.net> <20050616013520.GB77842@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050616013520.GB77842@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>Which is why I would think it would try to be friendly to the masses. >>If the masses say low and high, which I can't vouch that they do, but >>which I'd guess they do given how in my masses-type life those are the >>terms I've heard, then you'd think the camera would use those words also >>instead of using L to mean high. >> >> >You make many excellent and accurate points, except the one about >your "masses-type life" and the insinuation that what you tend to >think is relevant to mass-appeal. If those are meant to be jokes, >however, they are excellent too! > > My life is a masses-type life re stuff like cameras. I would think that camera makers might well be interested in the observations of laypeople like me. I will tell them if it fits into my life to do so -- as in I'm too busy right now to go out of my way to figure out how to inform Canon that I think their labels are dumb, but I will do so if a convenient way rears its head. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:24:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2O6ee028241 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:24:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:24:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1FB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:24:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3338372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:24:06 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2O2hh008125 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:24:02 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC2007@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:24:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200506160224.j5G2O2hh008125@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:24:02 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: And Tushar Isn't! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5G2O2hh008126 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:18:09 +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: >And which are the 7 seas? >I am sitting in my dorm-room in Victoria, BC, Canada, with the Sight >reduction tables for air navigation (they are simpler than the ones for >nautical use) and the Nautical almanac published by the Stationary >Office (Her Majesty´s Nautical Almanac Office), and I don't find a >definition of the 7 seas. > Arctic, Indian, Pacific, Atlantic, Baltic, Black, and Caspian was my first guess; but then I found: http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/m7sea.html clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:26:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2QHee028455 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:26:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:26:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC1FC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:26:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3338487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:26:17 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2QCqO008482 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:26:12 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00681CC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:26:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200506160226.j5G2QCqO008482@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:26:11 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Nut job of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:17:02 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >David Guy Fetzer wrote: > >> Natalie: >> It is. Obviously I'm not a native. ;-) > >So where was your nativity? (And, in case nobody else has asked -- I'm >behind in mail today: does your refrigerator have egg slots, and, if >so, how many? Have you ever seen a decapitated chicken?) > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I forgot the momentous news that we have eggslots at camp! I didn't even think of it till BrP pointed it out. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:26:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2Qgee028488 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:26:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:26:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681D64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:16:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3338132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:16:41 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2Gfsn007356 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:16:41 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616021641.TCBS26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:16:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616021640.UROT29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:16:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0E103.20700@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:16:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <42B0B9FD.3070109@maynor.net> <20050616012609.GB73737@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050616012609.GB73737@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > If something amounts to >finger-pointing and is indirect then you can call it >indirect finger-pointing. > > How does one point a finger indirectly? My fingers tend to go in directions -- unless I waggle them around in constant motion. Is that maybe what you're talking about -- a waggling finger? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:27:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2RKee028546 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:27:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:27:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC201D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:27:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3338532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:27:20 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2RFnu008674 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:27:15 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2009@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:27:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200506160227.j5G2RFnu008674@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:27:15 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The news from Canada To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:21:23 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Paul Barfoot wrote: > >>and welcome Dave >> >>I was in T.O. when you signed on and didn't give you a proper >>greeting. >> >> >How did you find us, Dave? We're all being because we have not >had any new meat in ages and are happy to have some. Usually newbies >have to suffer a little bit before becoming full-fledged Meebers. I thought we were being busy and ignoring him. My bad. Hi, Dave. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:31:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2Uree028920 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:30:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:31:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2026@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:30:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3338803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:30:48 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2UhVY009230 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:30:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC2038@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:30:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200506160230.j5G2UhVY009230@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:30:43 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The Camera Answer To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:33 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:56:37 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > >> >>Could you post an S-sized addy? > >HaH! >clo Oh - and http://tinyurl.com/csbwh clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:34:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2Xtee029283 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:33:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:34:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC204A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:33:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3338940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:33:55 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2XpmJ009678 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:33:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2036@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:33:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200506160233.j5G2XpmJ009678@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:33:50 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The Camera Answer To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:59:19 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:54:57PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:19:43 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog > L.ORG> wrote: >> >> On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:24PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> > > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >> > > > What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens >> >> > > > to be a mass-appeal gadget. >> >> > > >> >> > > *EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. >> >> > >> >> > I don't understand "excellent". Please mark the right box: >> >> > >> >> > [ ] XXS >> >> > [ ] XS >> >> > [ ] S >> >> > [ ] M >> >> > [ ] M1 >> >> > [ ] M2 >> >> > [ ] L >> >> > [ ] XL >> >> > [ ] XXL >> >> > >> >> >> >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:11:15PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> [ ] XL >> > >> >Bravissimo. >> > >> >> Where oh were is a Fest shirt design when you need one? > >Thank you for the laborious lexical rearrangement of this post. >Perhaps you can remedy and redeem the ridiculous top-posting >excesses of the "Evil twins"--you know very well whom I mean-- I am not the top-post police. Do your own dirty work! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:34:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2YAee029302 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:34:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:34:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC204C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:34:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3338960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:34:10 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2YA0i009759 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:34:10 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616023410.RELM2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:34:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616023409.FUNE8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:34:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:34:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Since we're not far by air from PA, rumor persists strongly >here that our boys shot down that fourth plane. That's a great >conspiracy theory. They're always better with some local flavor! > > This isn't about conspiracy theories but is something I've wondered about ever since 9/11 or shortly thereafter: People keep talking about how "brave" and "heroic" it was for the passengers on that plane to take it over and let it crash so that it wouldn't hit the White House. With definite respect for those passengers and horror at their situation, I will say that I kept wondering if the suggestion that they sacrificed their lives to save the White House was quite accurate. If the hijackers had the plane and were clearly going to crash it into a building, wouldn't it make sense to try to take over the plane from the hijackers, even if taking it over resulted in crashing in Pennsylvania? Iow, did those passengers choose to die in order to save the White House? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:36:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2a5ee029504 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:36:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:36:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2043@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:36:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3339032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:36:01 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2a1Gi009987 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:36:01 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616023601.RFPW2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:36:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616023600.FVCE8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:36:00 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0E58C.5070002@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:35:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44582773.20050615142152@gailndan.com> <42B0D9AF.4040506@maynor.net> <20050616014806.GA85539@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050616014806.GA85539@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>>Didn't follow the trial at all. Was just disgusted with the outcome. >>> >>> >>I'm impressed. >> >> > >Wow. I think this is indirect finger-pointing on a massive scale. > >Dan stated long ago that if something smells ... sapienti satis. >Are you insulting Dan's ability to smell the truth? > > Interesting questions. In this case my finger was clearly pointing at Dan, though. Nothing indirect at all about the pointing finger. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:40:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2eDee029842 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:40:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:40:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC200F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3339093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:13 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2eCN0010333 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:12 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616024012.RIBQ2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616024012.FWNZ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0E687.8020305@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:40:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Gmail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When I'm asked by gmail whether I want to invite somebody to start an account, can I invite myself? My storage space there is getting filled up, and it occurred to me that I could create more gmail accounts and thus have more storage space. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:41:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2fOee029931 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:41:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:41:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC2012@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3339116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2fESO010449 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.6]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616024114.RISO2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:41:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.6]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616024113.FWWV8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:41:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42B0E6C5.5070009@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:41:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frog References: <42B0DCF7.9020205@maynor.net> <20050616020329.GC91880@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050616020329.GC91880@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >This is an allegory about some list member, right? > > No. I could of course turn it into one, but it was originally posted as a literal description -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:57:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2vbee031105 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:57:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:57:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC20BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:57:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3340013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:57:33 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2vWR2011881 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:57:32 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23247204 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:57:50 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:57:58 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:57:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <923605580.20050615205727@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <20050615202841.GD19420@words-l.org> References: <42AD705A.40604@maynor.net> <809645001.20050613060541@gailndan.com> <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <59437517.20050615141808@gailndan.com> <20050615202841.GD19420@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=82326, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 2:28 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> Sure. How many photons in a pixel? DMH> (It's avogadro's constant, isn't it.) No, not the Avogadro number. It is the Avocado Number, which can best be found in the classic movie "Cannibal Women In The Avocado Jungle Of Death". It is a constant in that film. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:58:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2wJee031174 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:58:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:58:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00681F0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:58:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3340108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:58:18 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2wHYp011951 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:58:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22997519 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:21:20 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:58:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:58:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1111928566.20050615205817@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I am... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506151338752bb501@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70506151338752bb501@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=83369, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 2:38 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> no longer a Twix virgin. So what? Are you proud or ashamed? What if you have a little Twix? Abortion, or let it be born? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 21:59:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G2wuee031207 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:58:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC209F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:58:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3340242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:58:56 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G2wtHC012042 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:58:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23247276 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:59:14 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:59:22 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:58:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <995835769.20050615205856@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <20050615203007.GA24038@words-l.org> References: <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> <896449979.20050614215906@gailndan.com> <42B00A09.1060706@maynor.net> <20050615191724.GE66507@words-l.org> <194090110.20050615142317@gailndan.com> <20050615203007.GA24038@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=82327, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 2:30 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> That's wonderful. I am sure his sound is pretty DMH> "homegrown"? I'm sure you're not familiar with Mr. Henley from what you're saying above. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:00:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G30Yee031344 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:00:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:00:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00681F4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:00:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3340814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:00:29 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G30TD4012375 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:00:29 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23179218 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:10:03 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:00:55 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:00:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1131251516.20050615210029@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <20050615203111.GC24038@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> <20050615194151.GD95943@words-l.org> <1478156269.20050615142619@gailndan.com> <20050615203111.GC24038@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 230, in=96182, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 2:31 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> You didn't say "grasshopper"? Damn! Doubt I've said that word since I left Nebraska in 76 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:12:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3CRee032673 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:12:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:12:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC22B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:07:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:07:00 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G36xfl013848 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:06:59 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22998306 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:30:01 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:07:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:06:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <661590676.20050615210658@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: <20050615220316.GB67284@words-l.org> References: <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <20050615193542.GA95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615131231590f5f@mail.gmail.com> <20050615202108.GC19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615135063c8b4ff@mail.gmail.com> <20050615210655.GA38083@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061514243b8efec5@mail.gmail.com> <20050615220316.GB67284@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=83373, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 4:03 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Did you know I lost my verginity in a vending >> machine? DMH> If you tip it at the correct angle and shake it it DMH> might fall out. But remember the warning labels....it might tip over and smash and kill you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:12:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3CRee032674 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:12:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:12:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC21C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:02:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3342079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:02:26 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G32P79013042 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:02:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22228826 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:42:44 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:02:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:02:25 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1364640253.20050615210225@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <07be01c571eb$f600d4b0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> <01c501c5713f$8330a9d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <1962914901.20050614215304@gailndan.com> <022401c57166$450b52a0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <839717746.20050615081157@gailndan.com> <025a01c571da$0dfa64d0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <19269693.20050615141438@gailndan.com> <07be01c571eb$f600d4b0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80127, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 2:51 PM, David Guy Fetzer wrote: DGF> Dan: DGF> My apologies to your learned brother. None necessary. Just an MA in History and MA in Ed Admin, plus a bit more Ed Admin courses, and doing it for a long time. I doubt he'd consider himself learned on it....just fascinated or something....but not what I'd consider "obsessed". He has a life. With six kids from 3 months to 22, he's kinda busy. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:12:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3CVee032686 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:12:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:12:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC22BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:09:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:09:27 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G39QLa014025 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:09:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22998641 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:32:28 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:09:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:09:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1156402642.20050615210926@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CU update In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=83376, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 5:21 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Also, there are free newspapers downstairs - always BKD> USAToday and a local BKD> paper - and someimes a NYTimes. The good old Omaha Weird Harold, I assume. Not one of the greats of the country, that's for sure. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:12:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3CVee032694 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:12:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:12:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC22DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:11:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:11:01 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3B0IY014334 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:11:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22998857 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:34:03 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:11:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:11:00 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1797133115.20050615211100@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CU update In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=83377, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 5:21 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> I have also found the Jesuit BKD> dining hall - now I need to BKD> find a Jesuit who will invite me to dinner. Sounds good. And I'm sure you can rustle one up before long. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:14:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3EWee000135 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:14:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:14:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00681FCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:04:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3343394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:03:57 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G33up9013445 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:03:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23179469 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:13:31 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:04:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:03:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <303712497.20050615210356@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <20050615205637.GA33213@words-l.org> References: <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513404ce8e514@mail.gmail.com> <20050615205637.GA33213@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 230, in=96183, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 2:56 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> My application program (The Bat!) is breaking on DMH> this. well, are you really using The Bat! too? Not many of us out there, at least in the US I guess. I've been using it for about three years, maybe four since I dumped Eudora. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:14:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3EWee000134 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:14:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:14:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00681F33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:12:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:12:30 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3CTt8014635 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:12:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23180074 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:22:04 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:12:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:12:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <378911845.20050615211230@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42B0B9FD.3070109@maynor.net> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <42B0B9FD.3070109@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 230, in=96187, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 5:30 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I'll ask you what I NM> just asked Dan: Who/what were the fingers pointing NM> at? I inferred, perhaps incorrectly, that you were pointing at several people at different times. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:18:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3IPee000357 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:18:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:18:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC22EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:18:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:18:25 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3IOep015289 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:18:24 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23248665 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:18:43 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:18:51 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:18:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=82335, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 5:44 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But I don't think in NM> general that there's any NM> big difference between such behavior in > and in the NM> past. Why do you think there is? I can only say that I feel there is much less of it. Have not done formal research, don't know who, if anyone, has done so. And not quite sure how you'd measure it. As to why, I'd say general decline in values and morality. As to why American? Not sure why, or if....but it is the only one I can comment on with any surety. Again, if anyone has any evidence, as opposed to contrary opinion, I'd be particularly interested. Of course contrary opinion is fine too....as if I could stop it if I wanted, which I don't. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:22:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3Mdee000783 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:22:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:22:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00681F48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:22:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:22:39 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3Mcvg015743 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:22:39 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23248949 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:22:57 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:23:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:22:39 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1743720535.20050615212239@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: And Tushar Isn't! In-Reply-To: <42B0C541.7010801@gmail.com> References: <42AB5D09.2000504@maynor.net> <20050612013121.GB24808@words-l.org> <42ABA74D.5020107@maynor.net> <20050612033844.GA37811@words-l.org> <42ABB26C.1010500@maynor.net> <20050612043259.GB64773@words-l.org> <42B0C541.7010801@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=82336, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 6:18 PM, Espen S. Ore wrote: ESO> And which are the 7 seas? ESO> I am sitting in my dorm-room in Victoria, BC, Apparently depends on the context, time, etc. And may just mean "a large number" much as "forty" is used that way in the Bible. q.v. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Seas From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:25:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3PXee000965 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:25:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:25:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2301@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:25:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:25:33 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3PWVo016006 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:25:32 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23249192 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:25:51 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:25:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:25:32 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <429355879.20050615212532@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: for michael In-Reply-To: <42B0D75C.7020306@maynor.net> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B086F8.5050901@akad.ee> <42B0D75C.7020306@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=82339, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 7:35 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Does Michael Jackson walk around with an umbrella? NM> How do y'all know NM> this stuff? On a couple of quick flashes of him on national news going to the trial, or leaving it, he seemed to always have someone shading him with one. Wouldn't want his skin to get dark, would you? As to "always", I have no clue. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:27:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3R1ee000996 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:27:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:27:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00681F54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:27:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:27:01 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3R0gH016195 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:27:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23181134 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:36:35 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:27:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:27:00 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1452798766.20050615212700@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: E-Bay In-Reply-To: <20050616012802.GC73737@words-l.org> References: <200506151659.j5FGxx2V008060@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615164619.02e17db0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050616012802.GC73737@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 230, in=96194, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 7:28 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> I saw a storefornt yesterday that said it was to be DMH> an DMH> "ebay dropoff point". How long's this shit been going DMH> on? There are three businesses in metro Boise that are in the "ebay middleman business" or "agent business" or whatever. You give them the stuff, they sell it for you, keep a commission. Sort of like a consignment store I guess. Have seen a couple articles in the paper about them, but have never visited one. Believe the first one here was about a year ago. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:40:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3eJee002267 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00682118@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:33:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:33:01 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3X0Va016652 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:33:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23000639 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:56:03 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:33:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:33:00 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <625621379.20050615213300@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frog In-Reply-To: <42B0DCF7.9020205@maynor.net> References: <42B0DCF7.9020205@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=83386, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why not just transport him a few blocks away? And hope he can't find his way home. Isn't your killer dog able to keep the problem under control? 6/15/2005, 7:59 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> This little toadfrog is driving me crazy. I don't NM> want him in the NM> house. But every time I open the back door at NM> night, which I do pretty NM> often, he leaps in, and I have to shove him out. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:40:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3eJee002268 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00682079@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:38:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3345096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:38:49 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3cmSB017113 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:38:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22231451 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:19:07 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:39:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:38:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1368943906.20050615213848@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> References: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 225, in=80136, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5G3cmSB017114 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 8:34 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> wouldn't it make sense to try to take over NM> the plane from the NM> hijackers, even if taking it over resulted in NM> crashing in Pennsylvania? NM> Iow, did those passengers choose to die in order to NM> save the White House? >From the audio tapes that have been played from cell phone calls and such they tried to take back the plane, but if they had any idea of the intended destination, I've never heard that they did. Nor have I ever heard that any of those on the other three had any idea of the destinations. But regardless, they did the right thing...particularly since a number had heard on their cell phones that terrorists were crashing planes into significant targets. And it seemed clear that they knew they'd die anyway if they didn't get control back. Might as well die fighting rather than just giving up as far as I'm concerned, and as far as a number of them were concerned. But I can well imagine there were other passengers saying "don't cause trouble, it'll work out OK" or whatever of that nature. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:40:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3eJee002266 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:40:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00682113@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:30:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:30:19 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3UI3S016352 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:30:18 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23249541 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:30:36 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:30:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:30:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12196098.20050615213018@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=82340, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 7:46 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: CO> pieces I've read about CO> the liftoff of CO> military planes from Hancock word of the CO> first tower strike. Well, don't planes take off from there all the time? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:46:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3kEee002918 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:46:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:46:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC230B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:46:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3345300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:46:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3k9eA017671 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:46:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so200821nzp for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.3 with SMTP id m3mr222898nzb; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:46:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VWm6xM9hRAUS6FcI/FN6xGixN8SwgtP5BF/TncTbHHYp7kNDgNv0ZCP0l/hh31nxPqrHhA7P2Zh8mCKarNrWVnJoRGFadUZZTbAzx4ypT4KANayEUka9oL64sdyEUZ+0T+jtqTMVbfKYj1wgelF1tW3o1N76lK7uVv9hnasCe3E= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061520464a3c0f66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:46:08 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5G3k9eA017672 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Dan Lester wrote: > As to why, I'd say general decline in > values and morality. And the Christian right ain't helping stem the tide. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:47:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3liee003026 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:47:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:47:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC235C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:47:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3345330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:47:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3lhod017742 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:47:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so110424nzo for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.12 with SMTP id y12mr87640nzb; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:47:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BfM+liC3v8JiYIsKZXCBISN6HJ3xBJ9iJf7L0BWJd2BQISzBMooGIof97uNr1PqmAhkbfHehvf7w7p+i6YWLFVd3rDhzV9dS4psQJykc1URoxHDAT03caHoMKj1v7yW+/thNXvqnhgem3MInyz9f3FXvVyO9QVYntvbgiShGJtc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050615204738e56585@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:47:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand In-Reply-To: <42B0BC2A.1040206@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <42B0BC2A.1040206@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5G3liod017743 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/15/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tony Harminc wrote: > > >>>>>1) I could hardly make myself understood to them in English. > >>>>>2) I could hardly make myself understand to them in English. > >>>>>3) I hardly could make myself understood to them in English. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>Is it possible to express what is meant by 1) by using 'understand'? > >>> > >>> > >>You could say something like "I could hardly make them understand me in > >>English" -- though that sounds a wee bit awkward to me. > >> > >> > >It's more than awkward, I think. (1) and (3) are about making "myself" > >do something. Natalie's proposal is about making someone else ("them") > >do something, and while this largely means the same thing, it carries > >quite different baggage, e.g. the suggestion that the problem is their > >fault rather than mine. > > > > > I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure that I agree that "make them > understand me" suggests that the problem is their fault rather than > mine. Neither imho places blame for the problem. There you go being passive-aggressive again... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 15 22:50:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G3oDee003248 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:50:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:50:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00681F8E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:50:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3345419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:50:12 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G3o6Eu017955 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:50:07 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23250818 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:50:25 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:50:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:50:07 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <762143236.20050615215007@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061520464a3c0f66@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061520464a3c0f66@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=82347, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/15/2005, 9:46 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> On 6/15/05, Dan Lester wrote: >> As to why, I'd say general decline in >> values and morality. AFoA> And the Christian right ain't helping stem the tide. No argument. I don't consider many of those assholes to be real Christians....or at least not deserving of the name, as shown by their behavior. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 04:33:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5G9XDee012253 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:33:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:33:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00682795@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 5:33:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3357324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:33:09 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G9X8AN012438 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:33:09 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5G9X5g9013982 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:33:05 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5G9X3Bu013970 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:33:04 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5G9X3Lv006105 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:33:03 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5G9X2Of006094 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:33:02 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j5G9Wwa9054682 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:33:02 +0900 Message-ID: <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> Subject: Sentences Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:32:41 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hello again, 1) It is because he is sincere that I trust him. 2a) It would be better to let things stand as they are. 2b) It would be better to let things be as they are. 3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. 4) How do you think she was supposed to behave? All of them sound grammatical and acceptable to my non-native ears. Any comment will be appreciated. Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:23:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GANlee018196 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:23:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:23:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00682944@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 6:23:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3359673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:23:47 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GANkx3018264 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:23:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1937979A1 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:23:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20736-07 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:23:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4341F98ED6 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:22:18 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B152DB.3070101@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:22:19 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <1073212472.20050615142407@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1073212472.20050615142407@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.527 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >6/15/2005, 1:30 PM, Kristin Sarv wrote: > >KS> The nose was more or less mine, though. > >That's good. And unlike his, of course. > Longer than his has ever been (just checked on a web page), and straight, and not as sharp-pointed. Of natural origin. (My! I haven't ever been very interested in what he has done with his face or skin in general. A bit out of curiosity, and sympathy as well -- asking myself what a powerful force should make a person to take all these painful steps. And now I google for his pictures to compare his nose with mine!) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:29:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GATBee018953 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:29:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:29:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006828B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 6:29:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3359825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:29:09 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GAT9RY018833 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:29:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2E997AAA for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:29:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21739-07 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:29:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8D7972D4 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:29:07 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B15478.7040709@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:29:12 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <42AF86F9.50900@maynor.net> <42B06F4C.3080802@akad.ee> <42B0D35E.3020908@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42B0D35E.3020908@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.528 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> I must find out about the other newby Natalie referred to. (Are you >> sure, Natalie, it wasn't Richard?) > > > It's usually pretty easy to spot Richard's name-changes. Besides, he usually, or always, has written his name under his message. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:38:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GAcQee019710 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:38:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:38:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006829AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 6:38:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3360163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:38:26 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GAcPVr019876 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:38:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5F698DCC for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:38:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23542-04 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:38:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A7198E03 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:38:24 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B156A6.5000507@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:38:30 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B086F8.5050901@akad.ee> <42B0D75C.7020306@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42B0D75C.7020306@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.529 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > >>> Do you walk around with an umbrella? >> >> >> An opened one? For protection from sun? No. (I probably haven't seen >> pictures of MJ with umbrella, that's why I can only guess and ask.) > > > Does Michael Jackson walk around with an umbrella? How do y'all know > this stuff? Although I am naturally selective as to noticing intrusive ads, any promoting stuff, etc -- I very often just do not see them or look through them, or I do not know how I mentally or intrinsically clean and calm the sights that are before my eyes -- but some stuff just enters through all doors and windows, so that they penetrate my inner filters. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 05:49:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GAnZee021032 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:49:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:49:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC2A66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 6:49:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3360489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:49:35 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GAnYlS020676 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:49:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513519794C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:49:34 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25483-09 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:49:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46319975D2 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:49:33 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B15945.3010102@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:49:41 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frog References: <42B0DCF7.9020205@maynor.net> <625621379.20050615213300@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <625621379.20050615213300@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.53 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Why not just transport him a few blocks away? And hope he can't find >his way home. Isn't your killer dog able to keep the problem under >control? > > I'd put a physical obstacle just at the threshold. Some wooden block or something, too high for the toadfrog. Kristin >6/15/2005, 7:59 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> This little toadfrog is driving me crazy. I don't >NM> want him in the >NM> house. But every time I open the back door at >NM> night, which I do pretty >NM> often, he leaps in, and I have to shove him out. > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:12:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GBCjee023987 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:12:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:12:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2B04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 7:12:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3361270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:12:45 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GBCi6h013882 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:12:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so409661wra for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.113.14 with SMTP id l14mr539992wrc; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:12:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uteWpWlCdlhCSsqEl0dF5AL+q6vzbOMTsYZuoHIgrNTKMtuVuoCBsjvdsX30H83JPzWlCQOwnDds468Hw+4e76ZARQuUkbiHJx7Sgdcar++hikQwIMt0m9YacZXbW7KZ5o2gLNX8/jmUYnPtlTsQct33VypqV5MgFUXgqiPTrLA= Message-ID: <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:12:44 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for the Franzens In-Reply-To: <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GBCi6h013883 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > Natalie Maynor skrev 14.06.2005 13:35: > > > Marcia Franzen wrote: > > > >> Well, I could find now town or city call Lena in Sweden. However, > >> there are two parishes (in the church meaning, not county) that have > >> or have had the name Lena. The one was in Skara diocese in the region > >> of Västergötland. The other parish, which still exists, is in Uppsala > >> diocese in the region of Uppland. Why? > >> > Do you know the poem, En fattig munk från Skara? > > Espen > Uh, nope. Marcia From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:47:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GBlPee027683 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:47:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:47:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC2B5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 7:47:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3362457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:47:25 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GBlNVp017002 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:47:24 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061613454107664 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:45:41 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:47:22 +0200 Message-ID: <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:47:20 -0700 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for the Franzens References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2005 11:47:22.0967 (UTC) FILETIME=[28AFCE70:01C57269] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen skrev 16.06.2005 04:12: >On 6/16/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > >>Natalie Maynor skrev 14.06.2005 13:35: >> >> >> >>>Marcia Franzen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Well, I could find now town or city call Lena in Sweden. However, >>>>there are two parishes (in the church meaning, not county) that have >>>>or have had the name Lena. The one was in Skara diocese in the region >>>>of Västergötland. The other parish, which still exists, is in Uppsala >>>>diocese in the region of Uppland. Why? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>Do you know the poem, En fattig munk från Skara? >> >>Espen >> >> >> > >Uh, nope. > > > Ask Torkel or Dan! In my ears he is one of the best Swedish poets. I also love his poem "Skalden Wennerbom". Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:57:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GBvJee028803 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:57:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:57:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00682981@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 7:57:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3362885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:57:18 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GBvIBd017764 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:57:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC8297761 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:57:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07766-05 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:57:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA2B97AAA for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:57:16 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B1692E.7080406@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:57:34 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for the Franzens References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.531 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > Marcia Franzen skrev 16.06.2005 04:12: > >>>>> The one was in Skara diocese in the region >>>>> of Västergötland. The other parish, which still exists, is in Uppsala >>>>> diocese in the region of Uppland. Why? >>>> >>> Do you know the poem, En fattig munk från Skara? >>> >>> Espen >> >> >> Uh, nope. > > > Ask Torkel or Dan! In my ears he is one of the best Swedish poets. I > also love his poem "Skalden Wennerbom". I found it (En fattig munk...) on the page of Projekt Runeberg. You worked for the project as well, did you, Espen? -- Or do I mix up something, like, runes and Runeberg? :-) Unfortunately I'm not able to understand wholly the poem without a dictionary, and no time for it these days. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:58:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GBwVee028858 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:58:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:58:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2BD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 7:58:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3362919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:58:31 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GBwTLb017836 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:58:30 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061613564707692 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:56:47 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:58:28 +0200 Message-ID: <42B16963.9010506@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:58:27 -0700 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Killing a plenary speaker References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2005 11:58:29.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5C343E0:01C5726A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am going to chair a session at the conference today where one of the abstracts is in Spanish. I have understood the main points, I believe, and I have met the authors and explained that my Spanish is not good enough to introduce them in Spanish. But there was a plenary speaker yesterday who spoke about - among other things - a website she had made on the history of reading and writing. Sadly it became evident that she doesn't really know anything about this. And I was impertinent enough to ask her some questions she couldn't answer. For those who knew she sort of hanged herself, but for those who don't know she may have sounded reasonable. Willard McCarty (whom Natalie met in Santa Barbara) said that I was far to lenient. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 06:59:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GBx6ee028948 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:59:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:59:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC2BEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 7:59:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3362958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:59:06 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GBx5VW017901 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:59:05 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.11]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616115905.EVKM8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:59:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.11]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616115905.RUUM5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42B16983.4000709@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:58:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > As to why, I'd say general decline in >values and morality. > > ... >Again, if anyone has any evidence, as opposed to contrary opinion, I'd >be particularly interested. Of course contrary opinion is fine >too....as if I could stop it if I wanted, which I don't. > > It is my opinion that there has been no "general decline in values and morality" -- that people today, like people a thousand years ago, don't necessarily all have the same and that there are today, just like a thousand years ago, and deeds and thoughts, with some people doing more than and others doing more than . I agree with you that research/evidence would be almost impossible to produce. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:04:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GC4Lee029875 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:04:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:04:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00682B53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 8:04:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3363197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:04:21 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GC4KXJ018388 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:04:20 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061614023707713 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:02:37 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:04:19 +0200 Message-ID: <42B16AC1.4010006@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:04:17 -0700 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for the Franzens References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> <42B1692E.7080406@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42B1692E.7080406@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2005 12:04:19.0446 (UTC) FILETIME=[868E3160:01C5726B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv skrev 16.06.2005 04:57: > Espen S. Ore wrote: > >> Marcia Franzen skrev 16.06.2005 04:12: >> >>>>>> The one was in Skara diocese in the region >>>>>> of Västergötland. The other parish, which still exists, is in >>>>>> Uppsala >>>>>> diocese in the region of Uppland. Why? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Do you know the poem, En fattig munk från Skara? >>>> >>>> Espen >>> >>> >>> >>> Uh, nope. >> >> >> >> Ask Torkel or Dan! In my ears he is one of the best Swedish poets. I >> also love his poem "Skalden Wennerbom". > > > I found it (En fattig munk...) on the page of Projekt Runeberg. You > worked for the project as well, did you, Espen? -- Or do I mix up > something, like, runes and Runeberg? :-) A small mix up? I have never done anything for project Runeberg, but I have transcribed and eduted a text for project Gutenberg, once. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:11:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GCAvee030368 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:10:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:11:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC2BF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 8:00:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3363041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:00:57 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GC0v8q018122 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:00:57 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.11]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616120057.EWUB8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:00:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.11]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616120056.RVPB5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:00:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42B169F2.3020104@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:00:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frog References: <42B0DCF7.9020205@maynor.net> <625621379.20050615213300@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <625621379.20050615213300@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Why not just transport him a few blocks away? And hope he can't find >his way home. > That would be mean since he seems to like it here. Maybe my attitude toward him will gradually change, and he can become part of the family. He is kind of cute. > Isn't your killer dog able to keep the problem under >control? > > He doesn't seem interested, which strikes me as odd since he's usually interested in other creatures. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:11:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GCAvee030370 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:10:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:11:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC2BB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 8:04:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3363188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:04:00 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GC40Uu018365 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:04:00 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.11]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616120400.EYPI8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:04:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.11]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616120359.RWSF5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:03:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42B16AAA.7040201@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:03:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> <1368943906.20050615213848@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1368943906.20050615213848@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >From the audio tapes that have been played from cell phone calls and >such they tried to take back the plane, but if they had any idea of >the intended destination, I've never heard that they did. > I've heard/read various people refer to them as "brave heroes" who gave their lives "to save the White House." Every time I've heard/read that kind of thing, I've wondered about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:11:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GCB3ee030379 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:11:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:11:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC2C2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 8:11:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3363499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:10:57 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GCAvi4019190 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:10:57 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.11]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616121057.FCLB8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:10:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.11]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616121056.RZEC5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:10:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42B16C4B.4010701@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:10:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio wrote: > 1) It is because he is sincere that I trust him. > 2a) It would be better to let things stand as they are. > 2b) It would be better to let things be as they are. > 3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. > 4) How do you think she was supposed to behave? > > All of them sound grammatical and acceptable to > my non-native ears. They all sound perfectly normal to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:11:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GCAvee030369 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:10:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:11:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2C12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 8:09:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3363446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:09:52 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GC9qLP019025 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:09:52 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.11]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616120952.FBMH8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:09:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.11]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616120952.RYRA5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:09:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42B16C0A.9010407@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:09:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <42B0BC2A.1040206@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050615204738e56585@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050615204738e56585@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>>It's more than awkward, I think. (1) and (3) are about making "myself" >>>do something. Natalie's proposal is about making someone else ("them") >>>do something, and while this largely means the same thing, it carries >>>quite different baggage, e.g. the suggestion that the problem is their >>>fault rather than mine. >>> >>> >>I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure that I agree that "make them >>understand me" suggests that the problem is their fault rather than >>mine. Neither imho places blame for the problem. >> >> >There you go being passive-aggressive again... > > ? Why is it passive-aggressive to say that to me there's not really much blame-placing in the word-choice? I do understand Tony's point -- iow, I do see how that could be said about the two wordings. But for some reason I don't think the speaker is likely to be making that distinction in choosing the wording. I can imagine a speaker's saying "I could hardly make myself understood" with a tone implying "and it was their fault!" And I can imagine a speaker's saying "I could hardly make them understand me" with a tone of "my communication skills must be lacking." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:12:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GCCWee030478 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:12:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:12:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00682AC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 8:12:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3363607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:12:32 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GCCVpO019402 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:12:32 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.11]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616121231.FDRI8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:12:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.11]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616121231.RZTR5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:12:31 -0400 Message-ID: <42B16CA9.4080306@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:12:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frog References: <42B0DCF7.9020205@maynor.net> <625621379.20050615213300@gailndan.com> <42B15945.3010102@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42B15945.3010102@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > I'd put a physical obstacle just at the threshold. Some wooden block or > something, too high for the toadfrog. Since Spencer and I use that door quite often, I'm not sure I want an obstacle there -- though I guess a frog-sized barrier would be easy to step over. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:24:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GCOWee031387 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:24:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:24:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2C60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 8:24:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3364101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:24:32 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GCOVmO020483 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:24:31 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:24:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:24:22 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Sentences Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Welcome home. we've missed you. >>> tanaka@RS.KAGU.TUS.AC.JP 6/16/2005 5:32:41 AM >>> >1) It is because he is sincere that I trust him. >2a) It would be better to let things stand as they are. These two are fine >2b) It would be better to let things be as they are. I would omit "as they are" it is implied in "let things be" >3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. I would say "happiest" instead of "happy" 4) How do you think she was supposed to behave? Sounds fine >Tanaka Akio BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:29:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GCT8ee031703 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:29:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:29:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006829F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 8:29:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3364235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:29:07 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GCT7GA020882 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:29:07 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C8998738 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:29:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13796-01 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:29:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E09498F8F for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:20:38 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B16EAC.2030700@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:21:00 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question for the Franzens References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> <42B1692E.7080406@akad.ee> <42B16AC1.4010006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42B16AC1.4010006@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.532 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore kirjutas: > Kristin Sarv skrev 16.06.2005 04:57: > >> Projekt Runeberg. You >> worked for the project as well, did you, Espen? -- Or do I mix up >> something, like, runes and Runeberg? :-) > > > A small mix up? I have never done anything for project Runeberg, but I > have transcribed and eduted a text for project Gutenberg, once. Oh! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:41:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GCf4ee032657 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:41:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:41:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2CAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 8:41:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3364774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:41:04 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GCf2gj022363 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:41:02 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:41:02 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:40:43 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Frog Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Try kissing him. maybe he'll turn into a prince. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 6/15/2005 9:59:19 PM >>> This little toadfrog is driving me crazy. I don't want him in the house. But every time I open the back door at night, which I do pretty often, he leaps in, and I have to shove him out. He reminds me of the frog who used to sit at the glass door of my parents' house and stare in, obviously wanting to join us. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 07:57:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GCv2ee001597 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:57:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:57:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2D14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 8:57:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3365745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:57:02 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GCv25a024860 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:57:02 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-193.gwi.net [216.195.163.193]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5GCuttQ009100; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:56:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050616085437.01bd8008@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:56:49 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Killing a plenary speaker In-Reply-To: <42B16963.9010506@gmail.com> References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> <42B16963.9010506@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:58 AM 6/16/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >...But there was a plenary speaker >yesterday who spoke about - among other things - a website she had made >on the history of reading and writing. Sadly it became evident that she >doesn't really know anything about this. And I was impertinent enough to >ask her some questions she couldn't answer. For those who knew she sort >of hanged herself, but for those who don't know she may have sounded >reasonable. Willard McCarty (whom Natalie met in Santa Barbara) said >that I was far to lenient. Whoever was responsible for choosing plenary speakers badly fumbled this one. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 08:12:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GDCQee004067 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:12:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:12:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00682C11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 9:12:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3366909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:12:24 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GD2IuK026360 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:02:18 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5GD1rVU010850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:01:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:02:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: toadfrogs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: This little toadfrog is driving me crazy. I don't want him in the house. I love toadfrogs - send him to me. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 08:14:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GDDxee004227 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:14:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:14:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC2D72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 9:03:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3367155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:03:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GD3wG1026842 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:03:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so261991nzp for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.24.6 with SMTP id 6mr470399nzx; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:03:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nth9g5aebcgygDGcI035tfqgLhdu4fSO6bR5qQFGSEQe9s7y8d/+whM6qhUfOPEZ3jAuDhUvtHrQSqSUNqFeluleZL68/9dRJt9iNJvAVVbp5WI8P3+W2zmZoiyBIr+SjwQL/M2ZyDAyPBGGdI57XKlougWzeRwwvALc+paYMrc= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:03:54 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GD3wG1026843 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > 1) It is because he is sincere that I trust him. I have a quasi-linguistic problem with this. I can't know he's sincere, but I can trust that he's sincere. But my reason for trusting him couldn't be that [I know that] he is sincere, only that he seems sincere to me. > 2a) It would be better to let things stand as they are. OK by me. > 2b) It would be better to let things be as they are. OK by me. In 2a and 2b, "as they are" is optional, but I'd be more likely to include "as they are" in 2a unless the context made my meaning clear. > 3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. Grammatical, but sounds a bit unusual. I'd omit "the". > 4) How do you think she was supposed to behave? Sounds exactly like something I'd say. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 08:27:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GDRLee005524 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:27:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:27:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC2F45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 9:27:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3370604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:27:21 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GDRKn4032105 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:27:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so395399wra for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.29.61 with SMTP id c61mr469172wrc; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:27:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NIj+1BlfE83GkGAoCCtlcnB856vFAKwvTJvK/uuJwnLAU3MNfBeQMLbp3Ve2zWOBhM5EzICPh0im2ZsV9FTYo5bGma6eL83WkVpGNm2J1McoYV1t6E1rhpW4txPJNESZRbiNgIp2YJp52Xx9avjtKx1kkDfiZ+OI9hVE8W++tNE= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:27:19 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael In-Reply-To: <42B0D75C.7020306@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615124510.027b3eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B086F8.5050901@akad.ee> <42B0D75C.7020306@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5GDRLee005524 > > Does Michael Jackson walk around with an umbrella? How do y'all know > this stuff? -- Natalie I know because I read newspapers and look at the pictures. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 08:37:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GDb9ee006249 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:37:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:37:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00682C97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 9:22:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3369842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:22:56 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GDMthQ031260 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:22:56 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so434617wra for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.25.5 with SMTP id 5mr464670wry; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:22:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gxm09BpMKIO6La3LAokofye5Lx+cgTYvGcPDkGL6qfUmYBGMb7NyJabn6TMswTC9QvDhP4LKcXJql7R4EZKPkur1HNFheBhosHxit83xHeq2vtJyJ+yRV0bqyBzMw5ENAT7J6cI1QTq7wKBorkdsgndF/BduziPPOfllwWj70oQ= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:22:55 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gmail In-Reply-To: <42B0E687.8020305@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42B0E687.8020305@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5GDb9ee006249 > > When I'm asked by gmail whether I want to invite somebody to start an > account, can I invite myself? My storage space there is getting filled > up, and it occurred to me that I could create more gmail accounts and > thus have more storage space. -- Natalie Possibly. But let one of us invite you. What address would you like an invite to? And what do you have stored there? I've never gone beyond 2% of my allowance. I will definitely invite you but it won't be until tomorrow afternoon because right now we are out the door for a fun-filled night in Portland. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 08:43:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GDhdee006890 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:43:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:43:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC3004@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 9:43:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3372601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:43:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GDhc6H002028 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:43:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so277662nzp for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.13 with SMTP id p13mr501812nza; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:43:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Zbt8xWdgWJmLsCtgLybISp3UaoDaQ2PuD45SjujeFBz6D/OBreZMSjWRg89q1gzYcyech+uLahn18kmf9uMBqdTNvw6N//7RqTy3MuE7hZRLNzY2U5rfdfX0QfW7LL5ghgozw40GzVS881JMqI3yhLVWNNZ+pa65kcGjzjoWjhk= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:43:38 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Where Are You? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GDhc6H002029 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wouldn't this be a great Where Are You? location? http://www.seagaia.co.jp/english/odr/od.html Ben -- The telephone book is full of facts, but it doesn't contain a single idea. -- Mortimer Adler From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 08:45:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GDjjee007043 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:45:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:45:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00682E6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 9:45:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3372887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:45:42 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GDjg93002304 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:45:42 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 96776390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:44:31 -0400 Message-ID: <42B18285.9050201@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:45:41 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gmail References: <42B0E687.8020305@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >Possibly. But let one of us invite you. What address would you like an >invite to? And what do you have stored there? I've never gone beyond 2% of >my allowance. I will definitely invite you but it won't be until tomorrow >afternoon because right now we are out the door for a fun-filled night in >Portland. > > > You can definitely invite yourself. I just did it successfully to create an account to use for testing. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:10:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GEAaee009008 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:10:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:10:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC3172@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:10:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3375535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:10:36 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GEAZFo006322 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:10:35 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so126010rnf for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.181.14 with SMTP id d14mr577766rnf; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:10:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WjWRGS8LQBcAVM6gJVTJx2ApOhJOHk1u0VhLpiLm5C7P8bui6YeXq75B/ie5K/ziABb5Isx1NhkFLbVaNbEeAGEsW3Z6yA/0X/eABlBsRgjlx6oa+I5A5p98d3bCbayJTWHhKAYdOAZr8K4r9RfIopLv007XGOK7s8zc2USK49k= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:10:34 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Killing a plenary speaker In-Reply-To: <42B16963.9010506@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> <42B16963.9010506@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GEAZFo006323 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > I am going to chair a session at the conference today where one of the > abstracts is in Spanish. I have understood the main points, I believe, > and I have met the authors and explained that my Spanish is not good > enough to introduce them in Spanish. But there was a plenary speaker > yesterday who spoke about - among other things - a website she had made > on the history of reading and writing. Sadly it became evident that she > doesn't really know anything about this She knows nothing about the history of reading and writing, or of websites? The former seems more likely from the context, but then why would such a person be a plenary speaker at this conference? Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:20:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GEK8ee009439 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:20:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:20:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC324D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:20:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3376857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:20:08 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GEK65k008197 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:20:06 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC324B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:20:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200506161420.j5GEK65k008197@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:20:06 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Nut job of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:30:18 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >6/15/2005, 7:46 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >CO> pieces I've read about >CO> the liftoff of >CO> military planes from Hancock word of the >CO> first tower strike. > >Well, don't planes take off from there all the time? the military jets scrambled at once. No, doesn't happen all the time. A friend's husband happened to be there, and he called his wife and said "go home (out of the city). We must be under attack." It was pretty dramatic, not subtle taking off and landing. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:25:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GEOkee009725 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:24:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:25:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC3297@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:24:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3377419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:24:46 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GEOh4W008976 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:24:43 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC325B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:24:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200506161424.j5GEOh4W008976@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:24:43 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Sentences To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:32:41 +0900, Tanaka Akio wrote: >Hello again, > >1) It is because he is sincere that I trust him. >2a) It would be better to let things stand as they are. >2b) It would be better to let things be as they are. >3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. >4) How do you think she was supposed to behave? > >All of them sound grammatical and acceptable to >my non-native ears. > >Any comment will be appreciated. > >Tanaka Akio It's not about grammar; 2b doesn't work well because there are a number of idioms that are used in its place. 2a "let things stand" is one; "let things rest" or "let things stay" would also be more usual. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 09:27:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GEQhee010039 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:26:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:27:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC32C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:26:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3377640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:26:41 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GEQfMc009411 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:26:41 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC32AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:26:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200506161426.j5GEQfMc009411@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:26:40 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Question for the Franzens To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GEQfMc009412 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:12:44 +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: >On 6/16/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: >> Natalie Maynor skrev 14.06.2005 13:35: >> >> > Marcia Franzen wrote: >> > >> >> Well, I could find now town or city call Lena in Sweden. However, >> >> there are two parishes (in the church meaning, not county) that have >> >> or have had the name Lena. The one was in Skara diocese in the region >> >> of Västergötland. The other parish, which still exists, is in Uppsala >> >> diocese in the region of Uppland. Why? >> >> >> Do you know the poem, En fattig munk från Skara? >> >> Espen >> > >Uh, nope. > >Marcia IS this a limerick? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 10:57:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GFvOee014646 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:57:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:57:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC408F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:52:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3401772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:52:26 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GFqOLu025630 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:52:24 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5GFqN86024069 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:52:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:52:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > This isn't about conspiracy theories but is something I've wondered > about ever since 9/11 or shortly thereafter: People keep talking about > how "brave" and "heroic" it was for the passengers on that plane to take > it over and let it crash so that it wouldn't hit the White House. No, not the White House. Al Qaeda sources since then identified the target as the Capitol. Until that news came out, I thought it was a second plane for the Pentagon. There's a kind of symmetry to that: two planes for the World Trade Center, two planes for the Pentagon. But that was not the plan. On the one-year anniversary of 9/11, I wrote a blog entry about this: http://potifos.com/polygon/index.2002.09a.html#110252 Under the circumstances, I can't say that I would be too upset if it turned out the Pennsyvania plane was shot down rather than taken over by passengers (it would be sadly ironic if it were both). But my understanding is that the whole thing happened so fast, and there was so much initial confusion, that it just wasn't possible to intercept the planes. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 10:57:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GFvOee014645 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:57:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:57:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC401B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:46:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3400629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:46:33 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GFkWFk023936 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:46:32 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005061615463101300rtdame>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:46:31 +0000 Message-ID: <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:46:30 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio writes, > 1) It is because he is sincere that I trust him. This is fine and grammatical, but it would be better expressed directly: "I trust him because he is sincere." In writing, I would expect the sentence to be edited down to the direct form before being distributed. So, therefore, the indirect form sounds like a transcript of speech, and I would rather see it as, "It's because...." As an aside, uncontracted "it is" in speech is very formal and stilted, or very emphatic, suitable mostly for speeches and legal proceedings. Note that "formal speech" isn't equivalent to speech of high importance; witness the contractions here from our President Bush (who admittedly, has a *very* informal speaking style) talking about energy policy: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/06/20050615-2.html "THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all. Thanks for the warm welcome. John, thanks for the introduction. Thanks for the invitation to be here for the 16th annual Energy Efficiency Forum. It's an important forum. By advancing the national dialogue on the future of energy, you're helping us support the cause of energy efficiency. And that's critical for our economy and it's critical for the future of this nation." > 2a) It would be better to let things stand as they are. Fine. > 2b) It would be better to let things be as they are. Similar to Ben, I think this is okay, but idiomatically I would end this version, "let things be." > 3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. The grammar seems fine, but the definite article is non-idiomatic. (Or maybe I'm intuiting a subtle grammar rule; I don't have a lot of technical grammer knowledge.) Generic happy people don't need the article, and the sentence should be: Happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. If you want emphasis, you could add the article, but then you'd need to indicate the emphasis with vocal stress and scare quotes: The "happy" people are those whose work gives them pleasure. or The "happy people" are those whose work gives them pleasure. The intensified "happiest" would be another kind of emphasis, so the article would be expected with it: The happiest people are those whose work gives them pleasure. > 4) How do you think she was supposed to behave? Sounds fine. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 10:57:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GFvOee014641 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:57:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:57:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC3DFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:35:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3396422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:19:29 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GFJStP019829 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:19:28 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050616151928m92008hu0re>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:19:28 +0000 Message-ID: <008801c57286$cee20430$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42B0D413.2060703@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: The news from Canada Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:19:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: Through good ol' Harley Hahn's Yellow Pages. BTW, he hasn't updated in a while. Maybe he's made too much money off his books. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:21 PM Subject: Re: The news from Canada > Paul Barfoot wrote: > >>and welcome Dave >> >>I was in T.O. when you signed on and didn't give you a proper >>greeting. >> >> > How did you find us, Dave? We're all being because we have not > had any new meat in ages and are happy to have some. Usually newbies > have to suffer a little bit before becoming full-fledged Meebers. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 10:57:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GFvOef014644 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:57:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:57:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC40A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:53:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3401835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:53:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GFrW0N025802 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:53:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so545691nzp for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.35 with SMTP id w35mr608614nzg; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:53:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UZXPpT15PQTvLPpGE6xCM6zLlQocyUTIwMcb9pqdiWPeDPLL68coOBZnYYsFGVqn6xM/g0jxuWeXOSXTtm1F58KGoC0cGx7lk8wulCn+TVunyYf+p52iBoUetQ7Dyxiwp/mUt4CqmmKEWO5KZWBSJJwVU1j3A00AbLw2QfHU1pk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506160853346009f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:53:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GFrW0N025803 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > 3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. > > The grammar seems fine, but the definite article is non-idiomatic. It topicalizes that phrase. But this is another sentence I'd want to rewrite to "People whose work gives them pleasure are happy." Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 10:57:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GFvOee014644 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:57:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:57:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC3D15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:33:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3395442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:16:46 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GFGjo7019499 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:16:45 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050616151645m92008hu0ae>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:16:45 +0000 Message-ID: <007101c57286$6dcf8d70$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B00A91.1010103@maynor.net> <00df01c571d3$c6ac5cb0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B0D30E.6060706@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:16:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: My nativity (as you put it) was just outside Atlanta in Emory University, GA. I use Decatur, which is practically the same thing most of the time since an incident at the Puerto Vallarta airport with my late sister. "No senor, not where you went to school, where you were born!" As to your questions, no and no. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day > David Guy Fetzer wrote: > >> Natalie: >> It is. Obviously I'm not a native. ;-) > > So where was your nativity? (And, in case nobody else has asked -- I'm > behind in mail today: does your refrigerator have egg slots, and, if > so, how many? Have you ever seen a decapitated chicken?) > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:09:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GG9aee015972 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:09:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:09:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC40A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:59:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3402444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:59:36 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GFxZmP026736 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:59:35 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.178]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616155935.NJFZ8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:59:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.178]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616155930.XCRC5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:59:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1A1D9.5090004@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:59:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: toadfrogs References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I love toadfrogs - send him to me. > > If I packaged him and mailed him, he might expire enroute. Maybe I could buy him a bus ticket. Or I guess I could use some ff miles to buy him a plane ticket. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:10:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GG9aee015971 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:09:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:09:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC4104@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:03:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3402738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:03:15 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GG3Djp027359 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:03:13 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.178]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616160313.NNDT8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:03:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.178]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616160313.XEXT5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:03:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1A2BB.7030405@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:03:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gmail References: <42B0E687.8020305@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > And what do you have stored there? I've never gone beyond 2% of >my allowance. > Have they upped the space allotment lately? I just went and checked and saw that the percentage that had been creeping up and up and up (not close to being full -- but making me realize that the space was not as huge as I'd first thought) is now saying 0%. In answer to your first question, I store genealogy stuff there. I don't use the address for anything -- i.e., I don't genealogy stuff there. But I forward genealogy-related mail to that address and then go there from time to time and label/archive it. Anyway, I obviously don't need an extra account anytime soon. But thanks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:10:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GG9aee015969 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:09:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:09:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC40E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:08:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3402929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:08:04 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GG84R3027895 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:08:04 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.178]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616160804.NRIK8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:08:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.178]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616160803.XHOQ5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:08:03 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1A3DD.9010106@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:07:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B00A91.1010103@maynor.net> <00df01c571d3$c6ac5cb0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B0D30E.6060706@maynor.net> <007101c57286$6dcf8d70$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> In-Reply-To: <007101c57286$6dcf8d70$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU David Guy Fetzer wrote: > My nativity (as you put it) was just outside Atlanta in Emory University, I thought Emory was within Atlanta. Is its mailing address Emory University, GA? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:14:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GGENee016378 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:14:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:14:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC414E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:14:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3403319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:14:23 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GGEMqA028776 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:14:23 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.71.178]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616161422.NSXZ8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:14:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.71.178]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616161422.XJRC5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:14:22 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:14:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > 1) It is because he is sincere that I trust him. > > This is fine and grammatical, but it would be better expressed directly: > "I trust him because he is sincere." Karen will declare this a passive-aggressive statement, but I disagree that it would *necessarily* be better expressed directly. It depends on the situation. It-cleft sentences allow us to shift emphasis. In the above example the because clause is being emphasized. > 3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. > > The grammar seems fine, but the definite article is non-idiomatic. (Or > maybe I'm intuiting a subtle grammar rule; I don't have a lot of > technical grammer knowledge.) Generic happy people don't need the > article, and the sentence should be: > > Happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. I think the context is necessary to know whether "the" is non-idiomatic. The context might be describing two sets of people in a workplace, the happy ones and the unhappy ones. In that case "the" would strike me as appropriate. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:18:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GGIhee016875 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:18:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:18:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC4172@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:18:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3403463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:18:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GGIIMH029185 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:18:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so563952nzp for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr561211nzb; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:18:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=C7Ug8E8zu3APhnF9P4A3aJR05sQqnA5lou3baLnnke2D5Jdz3Hlb1oniJLffDRa9I3m44T5TrpPghneZn/dorzYh+Bu2KtdI2pWTtEh+tSwN7pUTrv4q2KLLj9P30AdLxLuguUsDUKBRgHZNgam7/7y43y6I3yRVGO9WoDSg+Eg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:18:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GGIIMH029187 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen will declare this a passive-aggressive statement, but I disagree > that it would *necessarily* be better expressed directly. It's not a passive-aggressive statement, but it does express your love of the p-a. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:20:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GGK0ee016970 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:20:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:20:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006838B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:36:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3397208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:28:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GFSCjh020747 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:28:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so323938nzp for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.17.14 with SMTP id 14mr578044nzq; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:28:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UV3RbF2XRGp7Y8h7+kdlMU6iiZTMfnhSsC/QeUTqBdBNprH97UAAMEo7EkBruPVmPRU4T6u6XR4IQE5qnV4CgtfLG8WJcGXEPbpmk0hcFAjQl6rBws29qp3Nd9FHUmktWFsvNFE6Yz0FhW4BdO8RlgXofe/Kr7LenqXLSjjeO2M= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:28:12 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I am... In-Reply-To: <200506152108.j5FL8r7O012611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050615205743.GB29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> <200506152108.j5FL8r7O012611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GFSCjh020748 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >= no longer a Twix virgin. > >Like, the candy bar, or something else. > Candy bar, I hope, otherwise TMI! Candy bar doesn't exclude TMI. Twix are suitably shaped, if a bit crumbly, and they'd give new meaning to "Two for me... none for you." Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:38:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GGcmee018968 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:38:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:38:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC41F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:28:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3404554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:28:48 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GGSl2h030962 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:28:47 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005061616284601400gbtfpe>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:28:46 +0000 Message-ID: <42B1A8BC.2020605@istori.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:28:44 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > It-cleft sentences allow us to shift emphasis. In the > above example the because clause is being emphasized. Yes, you're right. Although in print, I would then expect the word "because" to be emphasized (bold, italic; in email, asterisks, etc.). > I think the context is necessary to know whether "the" is > non-idiomatic. The context might be describing two sets of people in a > workplace, the happy ones and the unhappy ones. In that case "the" > would strike me as appropriate. Another good catch; yes, I agree. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:39:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GGcmee018970 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:38:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:38:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC423E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:33:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3405327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:33:11 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GGX7w6031640 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:33:07 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so579520wri for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.73.15 with SMTP id v15mr727119wra; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:33:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=BiZVq6U5vCMR+rHjurO03gqkFHdgG4jrQORU5sxrSEqKH9cQo2eZvzEiBR3ZHhwEyxE0xZLpQxzA5x6TA+pqo8EwpeZjDY/EemqW7IPyxz47lC6CPxpL8oTmqmAmVy3GA3ku45iXgOtJTOslcxiiwp74XYEdTnaiJ+c1hzyGdlo= Message-ID: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:33:06 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group , Torkel , Dan Subject: Torkel is awesome! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GGX7w6031642 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In December's catalog of the Scientific American book club, Torkel's newly published Gödel book was chosen to be an alternate selection. I'm married to a genius! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:40:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GGduee019129 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:39:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:40:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC4288@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:39:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3405922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:39:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GGdtBf032637 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:39:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so462678nzo for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.73 with SMTP id t73mr397987nzg; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BnlvUXoy1/sphAtk+g9/F7LrL5mu7SYKW3OAr+tCfTLXCb3zTh3XsfI/J3m1NYJ7JobamWqt8X36zuuzj11FvNSJ6udTlbHt+7jUw2pWHjwc/5Wd5Ro8rxQdXgqa1Vn+7+u/at4OjhO456DQH8kUUaEdKAFsDiuuFht76EylXWs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506160939b152721@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:39:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Torkel is awesome! In-Reply-To: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GGdtBf032640 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very cool! On 6/16/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > In December's catalog of the Scientific American book club, Torkel's > newly published Gödel book was chosen to be an alternate selection. > > I'm married to a genius! > > Marcia > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:43:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GGhRee019407 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:43:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:43:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC42AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:43:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3406234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:43:27 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GGhQYd000720 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:43:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F4597311 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:43:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11402-05 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:43:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5149598132 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:43:25 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B1AC68.5020201@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:44:24 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <20050615195315.GA5769@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050615195315.GA5769@words-l.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.295 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>Yet it probably wasn't him who sent an image of the latter into my >>mirror the other morning. I had dyed my hair the day before -- not too >>dark but, however, it was a bit darker than just before dyeing. And my >>face was unusually pale after just getting up. And the length and the >>slight wave of my hair is close to what MJ has. I was a bit startled. >>The nose was more or less mine, though. >> >> > >Well, surely you must have done SOMETHING wrong. > > Hmm. I did not share my bedroom with anybody I shouldn't have -- this I can remember. What else could it be? ... Prolly... Prolly I had put on a wrong pair of ears? Or perhaps I had put on hardly anything? -- Hard to believe this would make me look like him. What else? Maybe it all was just a warning: don't look into the mirror too often, and certainly not when only half awake? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:46:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GGkYee019899 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:46:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:46:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00683CE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:46:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3406491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:46:33 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GGkXkU001167 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:46:33 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2005061616463311200b8529e>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:46:33 +0000 Message-Id: <200506161646.j5GGkXkU001167@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Torkel is awesome! Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:46:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> Thread-index: AcVykRZORj7qdbQlThK1NxyCjtw+8QAAbmKQ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GGkXkU001168 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcia Franzen >Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:33 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Torkel is awesome! > >In December's catalog of the Scientific American book club, Torkel's >newly published Gödel book was chosen to be an alternate selection. > >I'm married to a genius! > >Marcia > You are just reading December's catalog? Congrats! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "To understand the heart and mind of a person, look not at what he has already achieved, but at what he aspires to do. " Lebanese artist & poet (1883 - 1931) Kahlil Gibran From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 11:56:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GGtree020822 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:55:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:56:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC4334@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:55:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3407304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:55:52 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GGtq9u002280 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:55:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9982C98E9B for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:55:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13782-06 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:55:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A68898F41 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:55:49 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B1AF51.7070607@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:56:49 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Torkel is awesome! References: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70506160939b152721@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506160939b152721@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.532 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Very cool! > > Yes! Kristin >On 6/16/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > >>In December's catalog of the Scientific American book club, Torkel's >>newly published Gödel book was chosen to be an alternate selection. >> >>I'm married to a genius! >> From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 12:13:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GHDCee022454 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:13:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:13:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC43FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:13:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3408759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:13:12 -0400 Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GHDBR4004662 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:13:11 -0400 Received: from conversion.post5.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0II600901SSBBK@asu.edu> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:04:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.110.107]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) with ESMTP id <0II60091GSSBAT@asu.edu> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:04:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [149.169.182.174] ([149.169.182.174]) by smtp.asu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/asu_smtp_relay,nullclient,tcp_wrapped) with ESMTP id j5GH4vj6002834 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:04:58 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:04:57 -0700 From: Hank Harken Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-reply-to: <83db447a0506151858288bc221@mail.gmail.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <20050616170457.3279@smtp.asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <83db447a0506151858288bc221@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> In answer to the earlier question, Hank is clearly not just another >> Richard persona! > ...for which, may we all be grateful. Is that almost a compliment ? - Hank From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 12:22:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GHMKee023291 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:22:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:22:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC440D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:22:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3409472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:22:20 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GHMIQY005833 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:22:18 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.17]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616172218.MGDC13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:22:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.17]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616172217.KTUY1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:22:17 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:22:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Karen will declare this a passive-aggressive statement, but I disagree >>that it would *necessarily* be better expressed directly. >> >> >It's not a passive-aggressive statement, but it does express your love >of the p-a. > > Do the other interpretations/discussions of the sentences also express love of the p-a., whatever that means, or just mine? If the latter, how are my statements different from the others? Does all discussion of language indicate a ? Btw, I've found a really good doghair-removing sponge-type thing. I had bought it a long time ago and put it in a drawer unopened. I stumbled upon it this morning and found that it does a much better job than the vacuum cleaner at pulling doghairs off of furniture -- not a perfect job, of course -- there's no way my couches could ever be doghair free -- but a better job. And speaking of furniture, I went to put the cushions on the outside chairs and realized that the cushion for the chaise-lounge is in a closet in Starkville -- it's part of my bedding there. . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 12:24:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GHNuee023424 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:23:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:24:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC441D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:23:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3409609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:23:55 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GHNscw006102 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:23:54 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.17]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616172354.MIDR13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:23:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.17]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616172354.KUSB1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:23:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1B5A4.2080007@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:23:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B1A8BC.2020605@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42B1A8BC.2020605@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: >> It-cleft sentences allow us to shift emphasis. In the >> above example the because clause is being emphasized. > > Yes, you're right. Although in print, I would then expect the word > "because" to be emphasized (bold, italic; in email, asterisks, etc.). I'm thinking of these sentences as spoken rather than written since the question was about grammaticality (though I realize that you said it was grammatical before adding the part about the better wording). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 12:24:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GHOaee023493 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:24:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:24:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC4476@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:24:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3409687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:24:36 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GHOaFG006241 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:24:36 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.17]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616172435.MIYT13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:24:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.17]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616172435.KVAZ1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:24:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1B5CD.3080203@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:24:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Torkel is awesome! References: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That is impressive! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 12:43:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GHhaee025607 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:43:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:43:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC44A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:33:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3410589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:33:36 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GHXZZ8007657; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:33:35 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70095904; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:33:34 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050616103431.02743850@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:34:58 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Torkel is awesome! In-Reply-To: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5GHhaee025607 At 09:33 AM 6/16/2005, Marcia Franzen wrote: >In December's catalog of the Scientific American book club, Torkel's >newly published Gödel book was chosen to be an alternate selection. > >I'm married to a genius! > >Marcia Fantastic! Congratulations, Torkel. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 12:48:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GHltee026170 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:47:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:48:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC459B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:47:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3412388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:47:54 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GHloWZ010222 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:47:51 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5GHloll004196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:47:50 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5GHlnWL004194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:47:49 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:47:49 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616174749.GA3904@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200506160154.j5G1svDh005327@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506160154.j5G1svDh005327@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = Where oh were is a Fest shirt design when you need one? = clo Speaking of which, what's up with the Fest shirts this year? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 13:20:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GIKQee029948 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:20:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:20:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC4781@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:20:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3415624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:20:26 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GIKQ7t014985 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:20:26 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:20:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:19:56 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: y'all might be interested in this... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ..or you may have already heard about it. It's not NEW news, but it is new to me. Greenpeace is doing a national test of mercury levels in people. For $25 you can get a confidential test kit (hair sampling) and they compile the data. https://secureusa.greenpeace.org/mercury/ If you're interested BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 13:23:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GINLee030193 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:23:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:23:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006840BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:23:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3415952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:23:18 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GINIZ9015329 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:23:18 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:23:18 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:23:00 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great timing. Clo and I just finalized the design an hour ago. Details will follow. BrP >>> stevie@MULTINIX.COM 6/16/2005 1:47:49 PM >>> Speaking of which, what's up with the Fest shirts this year? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 13:25:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GIPUee030426 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:25:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:25:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC47C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:25:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3416211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:25:29 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GIPTjA015687 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:25:29 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC47BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:25:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200506161825.j5GIPTjA015687@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:25:28 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The Camera Answer To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:47:49 +0200, steph wrote: >= Where oh were is a Fest shirt design when you need one? >= clo > >Speaking of which, what's up with the Fest shirts this year? In a design folder on BrP's desk. Soon come! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 13:46:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GIk5ee032112 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:46:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:46:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC486F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:46:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3418068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:46:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GIk3XA018827 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:46:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5GIk3Hw004540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:46:03 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5GIk2Uk004538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:46:02 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:46:02 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616184602.GA4522@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Timing hell, she prompted me! On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:23:00PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: = Great timing. Clo and I just finalized the design an hour ago. = Details will follow. = = BrP = = = >>> stevie@MULTINIX.COM 6/16/2005 1:47:49 PM >>> = = Speaking of which, what's up with the Fest shirts this year? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 13:58:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GIwCee000710 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:58:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:58:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC491E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:58:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3419033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:58:12 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GIwBPN020774 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:58:11 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.17]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616185811.FJXT16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:58:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.17]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616185811.ASE4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:58:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:58:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Flashing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I figured out how to pull up the flash thing so that the camera will flash: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/sumo.jpg What am I forgetting that I need to be doing for tonight's party? I'm about to go buy some plastic cups since I don't have as many as I thought I did (unless I want to move into xmas ones, which would be ok). But I can't think of what else I should be doing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:11:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GJAuee002049 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:10:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:11:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC49E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:10:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3420517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:10:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJAtFi023295 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:10:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so559934nzo for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.73 with SMTP id t73mr500541nzg; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:10:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LtponRXrkX/aliPegfhIJGD4bzao2E/mxr+UYQ3No1vIquN4DIqxYBAXXXtCatBTJ1b+AELmg4w57dLEVhNZaTt8ZweY5QHaqi5VxKwhmw9rJhMfSGIKg8HGZSLCqIywxLdXwme+iUqnxLH6cEHHRKoAouBG0JJkN2xNpmrhWzs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:10:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing In-Reply-To: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GJAuFi023297 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why are you having a party? And why is the sumo picture so big? On 6/16/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I figured out how to pull up the flash thing so that the camera will flash: > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/sumo.jpg > > What am I forgetting that I need to be doing for tonight's party? I'm > about to go buy some plastic cups since I don't have as many as I > thought I did (unless I want to move into xmas ones, which would be > ok). But I can't think of what else I should be doing. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:13:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GJDSee002310 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:13:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:13:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC49B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:13:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3420770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:13:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJDRAA023730 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:13:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so561341nzo for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr602255nzc; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:13:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XA9Vdl/a/uv4Q53bNBfE4P7R4OhAdHWhaevuIWwejXzp2Wr+2WKUf/ofNa9/2KMLymQvs2GuFHSPbf0zGxD2Ee+KhVdocU3OApEMNlw/1szGdoBAxVueE7Y6DFcJu3Wk28wDfYISAKTVp/hxCXkEXH8cRzJ4p/R/jryayl4qJfc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506161213c979e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:13:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Adam: locked files in Frame Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GJDRAA023735 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My brain is totally fried. I called my Frame Answer Man, who assured me that I have had this problem at least twice before. We found the answer in Frame Help, but since I only have this problem about every six months, I forget in between. The answer is Esc+flk. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:17:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GJGsee002830 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:16:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:17:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC49DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:16:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3421094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:16:54 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJGqgL024383 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:16:53 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5GJGqTO004736 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:16:52 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5GJGqqw004734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:16:52 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:16:51 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing Message-ID: <20050616191651.GA4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:10:55PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = Why are you having a party? And why is the sumo picture so big? = Bitch, bitch, bitch!!! Geez, she finally gets a decent bit of detail out of that camera and you have to go and complain? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:28:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GJS8ee003810 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:28:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:28:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC49EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:18:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3421207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:18:07 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJI78W024555 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:18:07 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5GJI676004767 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:18:06 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5GJI6k0004765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:18:06 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:18:06 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Adam: locked files in Frame Message-ID: <20050616191806.GB4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a70506161213c979e0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506161213c979e0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = The answer is Esc+flk. = = Karen Escape Filk? Stay away from science fiction conventioners singing hacked songs? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:28:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GJS8ee003816 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:28:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:28:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC4A6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:27:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3422368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:27:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJQxNY026935 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:27:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so568688nzo for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.78 with SMTP id t78mr628579nzg; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:26:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WN/4maB0sc3EM5D+n0w8geB99hl35uXNWBrOyAxqUGX2hCjfJhp9dMWG7mt4+d3nyzwJLqcjpurDuNLPDLeDS7dZb8UWY5ayVMAoqWWOlO4Jv6Szrvu4hIES65V3aBJF2q5PjLQBOjMYs+6NlsUfOyqYdD0nhNBZ2P8FoshQZ1o= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061612265f641ed6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:26:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Adam: locked files in Frame In-Reply-To: <20050616191806.GB4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506161213c979e0@mail.gmail.com> <20050616191806.GB4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GJR0NY026939 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No. Escape the fucking lock! On 6/16/05, steph wrote: > = The answer is Esc+flk. > = > = Karen > > Escape Filk? Stay away from science fiction conventioners singing > hacked songs? > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:28:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GJS8ee003818 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:28:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:28:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC4A8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:23:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3421974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:23:08 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJN8Wm025980 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:23:08 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.17]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616192308.SPWG8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:23:08 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.17]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616192307.EZC5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:23:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1D19A.3030600@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:23:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing References: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> <20050616191651.GA4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050616191651.GA4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:10:55PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >= Why are you having a party? And why is the sumo picture so big? > >Bitch, bitch, bitch!!! Geez, she finally gets a decent bit of detail >out of that camera and you have to go and complain? > > She simply asked a question. I didn't know she was complaining. I will add, though, that I'm not sure that I will continue to follow the advice since I really, really hate looking at pictures that you have to scroll around to see all of. I don't usually bother. If a picture doesn't fit neatly on my screen, I have to have extremely great interest in its content to bother with scrolling it (or in some cases saving it to my computer and downsizing it for easy viewing). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:28:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GJS8ee003817 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:28:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:28:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC4A83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:24:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3422050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:24:41 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJOfV8026329 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:24:41 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.17]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616192440.SRAI8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:24:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.17]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616192440.FQE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:24:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1D1F7.1080700@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:24:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing References: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> <20050616191651.GA4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B1D19A.3030600@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42B1D19A.3030600@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I will > add, though, that I'm not sure that I will continue to follow the advice > since I really, really hate looking at pictures that you have to scroll > around to see all of. I don't usually bother. If a picture doesn't fit > neatly on my screen, I have to have extremely great interest in its > content to bother with scrolling it (or in some cases saving it to my > computer and downsizing it for easy viewing). PS: And I have concluded that I am about pictures the way I am about wine -- I am not a snob and don't want to become one. I'm content with small pictures and cheap wine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:28:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GJS8ee003812 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:28:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:28:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC4A21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:20:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3421700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:20:32 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJKWpO025434 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:20:32 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.17]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616192031.SNZN8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:20:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.17]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616192031.DXG5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:20:31 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1D0FE.1040408@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:20:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing References: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Why are you having a party? > Because we still have over 900 fund-raising letters in search of recipients. People are supposed to bring names and addresses tonight and address envelopes, but I bet most people won't. We're also going to start planning the 45th reunion. >And why is the sumo picture so big? > > Because y'all convinced me that bigger is better -- that I should stop reducing them to 800x600. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:46:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GJjwee005860 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:45:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:46:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC4B4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:35:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3424217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:35:57 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJZuJn029414 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:35:56 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:35:55 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:35:33 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Flashing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU a good sig line ? BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 6/16/2005 3:24:39 PM >>> I'm content with small pictures and cheap wine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 14:52:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GJqSee006335 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:52:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:52:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC4D91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:52:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3428123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:52:27 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJqRq8000577 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:52:27 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050616195226m92008i0spe>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:52:27 +0000 Message-ID: <011401c572ac$f18713b0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> <42B16983.4000709@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Pictures Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:52:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: My sentiments exactly. Our leaders will find out, to their disappointment, that you cannot legislate morality. "Individuality is fine as long as we all do it together."-Major Frank Burns, M*A*S*H The TV Series Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:58 AM Subject: Re: Brad Pictures > Dan Lester wrote: > >> As to why, I'd say general decline in >>values and morality. >> >> > ... > >>Again, if anyone has any evidence, as opposed to contrary opinion, I'd >>be particularly interested. Of course contrary opinion is fine >>too....as if I could stop it if I wanted, which I don't. >> >> > It is my opinion that there has been no "general decline in values and > morality" -- that people today, like people a thousand years ago, don't > necessarily all have the same and that there are today, just > like a thousand years ago, and deeds and thoughts, with > some people doing more than and others doing more > than . I agree with you that research/evidence would be almost > impossible to produce. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:16:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GKGmee008337 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:16:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:16:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC4DB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:56:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3428574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:56:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GJuiHs001322 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:56:44 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so93855nzp for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.18 with SMTP id l18mr781309nzl; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:56:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VLJk8CE95n4BG+vOx8nvsHEQRv4ltU7ooD5yUGtfIJpjCwUUXf7JPnfUengA1Mm14iJSjx0Y3HKzu3nNjxOQgOyEjB1b6DaSfSWQMSkl9lR6sgp05ECtIvMhjUkShDSO2OrzqbGmaEZop4WBWMTrx+fhJDJql6W87MJtkF3md3U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050616125645e51805@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:56:44 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <011401c572ac$f18713b0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> <42B16983.4000709@maynor.net> <011401c572ac$f18713b0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GJujHs001323 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, David Guy Fetzer wrote: > My sentiments exactly. Our leaders will find out, to their disappointment, > that you cannot legislate morality. Especially when you are a bad example of it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:36:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GKaNee010018 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:36:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:36:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC517E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:36:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3434750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:36:22 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GKQJC8007347 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:26:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 2896 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 20:26:18 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:26:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050616202618.GA98933@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <42B0B9FD.3070109@maynor.net> <20050616012609.GB73737@words-l.org> <42B0E103.20700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0E103.20700@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:16:35PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >If something amounts to > >finger-pointing and is indirect then you can call it > >indirect finger-pointing. > > > How does one point a finger indirectly? My fingers tend to go in > directions -- unless I waggle them around in constant motion. Is that > maybe what you're talking about -- a waggling finger? Pretending not to know is the indirect finger-pointer's strongest tool! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:37:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GKb0ee010114 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:37:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:37:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006846F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:36:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3434889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:37:00 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GKQxRN007520 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:26:59 -0400 Received: (qmail 2992 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 20:26:58 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:26:58 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050616202658.GB98933@words-l.org> References: <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B0C2DB.1080607@maynor.net> <20050616012838.GD73737@words-l.org> <42B0E130.6060603@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0E130.6060603@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:17:20PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Who the hell is Darrell? > > > Darrell Wade. Wow, didn't recognize him at all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:39:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GKcoee010352 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:38:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:39:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC518F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:38:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3435206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:38:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GKSmJX007825 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:28:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 3760 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 20:28:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:28:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616202848.GC98933@words-l.org> References: <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <42B0D4D0.3090403@maynor.net> <20050616013520.GB77842@words-l.org> <42B0E21F.2030705@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0E21F.2030705@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:21:19PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>Which is why I would think it would try to be friendly to the masses. > >>If the masses say low and high, which I can't vouch that they do, but > >>which I'd guess they do given how in my masses-type life those are the > >>terms I've heard, then you'd think the camera would use those words also > >>instead of using L to mean high. > >> > >> > >You make many excellent and accurate points, except the one about > >your "masses-type life" and the insinuation that what you tend to > >think is relevant to mass-appeal. If those are meant to be jokes, > >however, they are excellent too! > > > My life is a masses-type life re stuff like cameras. I would think that > camera makers might well be interested in the observations of laypeople > like me. I will tell them if it fits into my life to do so -- as in I'm > too busy right now to go out of my way to figure out how to inform Canon > that I think their labels are dumb, but I will do so if a convenient way > rears its head. Right, Dr Natalie ... your "masses-type" suggestion versus 36 focus groups worlwide ... uh huh ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:39:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GKdbee010459 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:39:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:39:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC51AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:39:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3435336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:39:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GKTYZl007894 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:29:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 4717 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 20:29:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:29:34 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616202933.GD98933@words-l.org> References: <200506160230.j5G2UhVY009230@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506160230.j5G2UhVY009230@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 10:30:43PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:33 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander > wrote: > > >On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:56:37 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog >L.ORG> wrote: > > > >> > >>Could you post an S-sized addy? > > > >HaH! > >clo > Oh - and > http://tinyurl.com/csbwh Forget it. It's over. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:39:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GKdcee010461 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:39:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:39:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC51AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:39:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3436485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:39:37 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GKdacI010008 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:39:36 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5GKdZPm005221 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:39:35 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5GKdYT8005219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:39:34 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:39:34 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing Message-ID: <20050616203934.GA5156@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> <20050616191651.GA4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B1D19A.3030600@maynor.net> <42B1D1F7.1080700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B1D1F7.1080700@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:24:39PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = Natalie Maynor wrote: = = >I will = >add, though, that I'm not sure that I will continue to follow the advice = >since I really, really hate looking at pictures that you have to scroll = >around to see all of. I don't usually bother. If a picture doesn't fit You still haven't quite got the advice implemented correctly. The idea is to take the best picture possible and then do stuff to it. So resizing it down to 300 x 400 is fine. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:41:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GKfAee010639 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:41:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:41:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC51B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:41:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3436551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:41:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GKf28S010190 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:41:03 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so113902nzp for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr798308nzd; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TodlAzs6a/lA1LxyVHo+7SoCfotUqJwKe5iAocojixM8i/cOY6yanVS3i2yLnbgvutcpEMAuxURoCFkbIhhROUuc/mUQmDvP6WkEvMOZa2zeVoRjDHR6Csbu3bupNbgX3cP657tnqG6yeHqD9zMulpNgaY1A7TWFArQ5x7LUuTc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506161341742ae40b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:41:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing In-Reply-To: <20050616203934.GA5156@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> <20050616191651.GA4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B1D19A.3030600@maynor.net> <42B1D1F7.1080700@maynor.net> <20050616203934.GA5156@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GKf38S010192 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, steph wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:24:39PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > = Natalie Maynor wrote: > = > = >I will > = >add, though, that I'm not sure that I will continue to follow the advice > = >since I really, really hate looking at pictures that you have to scroll > = >around to see all of. I don't usually bother. If a picture doesn't fit > > You still haven't quite got the advice implemented correctly. The idea > is to take the best picture possible and then do stuff to it. So > resizing it down to 300 x 400 is fine. Yes, it is! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 15:42:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GKgAee010784 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:42:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:42:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC51C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:42:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3435820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:42:10 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GKW8lV008478 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:32:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 5699 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 20:32:08 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:32:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616203208.GE98933@words-l.org> References: <200506160233.j5G2XpmJ009678@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506160233.j5G2XpmJ009678@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 10:33:50PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:59:19 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > > >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:54:57PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:19:43 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog >> L.ORG> wrote: > >> >> On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> >> > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:24PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> >> > > On 6/15/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> >> > > > What you are holding--despite its cost and "slickness"--happens > >> >> > > > to be a mass-appeal gadget. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > *EXACTLY*!!! Excellent point. > >> >> > > >> >> > I don't understand "excellent". Please mark the right box: > >> >> > > >> >> > [ ] XXS > >> >> > [ ] XS > >> >> > [ ] S > >> >> > [ ] M > >> >> > [ ] M1 > >> >> > [ ] M2 > >> >> > [ ] L > >> >> > [ ] XL > >> >> > [ ] XXL > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 03:11:15PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> >> [ ] XL > >> > > >> >Bravissimo. > >> > > >> > >> Where oh were is a Fest shirt design when you need one? > > > >Thank you for the laborious lexical rearrangement of this post. > >Perhaps you can remedy and redeem the ridiculous top-posting > >excesses of the "Evil twins"--you know very well whom I mean-- > > I am not the top-post police. > Do your own dirty work! Wow, didn't think of it that way. I wouldn't want to be POLICE. That's evil, right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 16:41:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GLfoee017396 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:41:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:41:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC5762@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:41:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3447072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:41:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GLVmr1018128 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:31:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 32804 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 21:31:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:31:47 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael Message-ID: <20050616213147.GF98933@words-l.org> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44582773.20050615142152@gailndan.com> <42B0D9AF.4040506@maynor.net> <20050616014806.GA85539@words-l.org> <42B0E58C.5070002@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B0E58C.5070002@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:35:56PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>>Didn't follow the trial at all. Was just disgusted with the outcome. > >>> > >>> > >>I'm impressed. > >> > >> > > > >Wow. I think this is indirect finger-pointing on a massive scale. > > > >Dan stated long ago that if something smells ... sapienti satis. > >Are you insulting Dan's ability to smell the truth? > > > Interesting questions. In this case my finger was clearly pointing at > Dan, though. Nothing indirect at all about the pointing finger. Finger? What finger? This is email! I can't see your hand! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:05:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GM5Dee019694 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:05:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:05:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC585B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:05:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3449931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:05:12 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GM5Cc8021662 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:05:12 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.211.58]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616220512.IJXF10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:05:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.211.58]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616220512.UGVF25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:05:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1F795.7060806@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:05:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> <42B16983.4000709@maynor.net> <011401c572ac$f18713b0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> In-Reply-To: <011401c572ac$f18713b0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU David Guy Fetzer wrote: > My sentiments exactly. Our leaders will find out, to their > disappointment, > that you cannot legislate morality. I certainly hope they don't legislate *their* so-called morals. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:06:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GM62ee019777 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:06:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:06:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC5825@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3449990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:02 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GM625X021772 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:02 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.211.58]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616220602.IKHH10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.211.58]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616220601.UHBV25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1F7C8.9040407@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:06:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B0C2DB.1080607@maynor.net> <20050616012838.GD73737@words-l.org> <42B0E130.6060603@maynor.net> <20050616202658.GB98933@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050616202658.GB98933@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>>Who the hell is Darrell? >>> >>> >>Darrell Wade. >> >> >Wow, didn't recognize him at all. > > He was kind of far away and behind tree branches and wearing goggles. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:09:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GM9gee019950 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:09:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:09:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC583C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:09:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3450159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:09:41 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GM9f1F022021 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:09:41 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.211.58]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616220940.IMCQ10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:09:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.211.58]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616220938.UIIA25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:09:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1F8A0.1050701@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:09:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44582773.20050615142152@gailndan.com> <42B0D9AF.4040506@maynor.net> <20050616014806.GA85539@words-l.org> <42B0E58C.5070002@maynor.net> <20050616213147.GF98933@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050616213147.GF98933@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Finger? What finger? This is email! I can't see your hand! > > ^ | | | | | | ^ | | ^ ^ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | U U U | ^ | | / / | |/ / | / | / -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:11:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMBBee020090 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:11:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:11:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00684D40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3450043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:53 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GM6qla021841 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:52 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.211.58]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616220652.IKRB10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.211.58]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616220651.UHIG25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42B1F7FA.8010201@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:06:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer References: <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <42B0D4D0.3090403@maynor.net> <20050616013520.GB77842@words-l.org> <42B0E21F.2030705@maynor.net> <20050616202848.GC98933@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050616202848.GC98933@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Right, Dr Natalie ... your "masses-type" suggestion versus >36 focus groups worlwide ... uh huh ... > > Focus groups? Canon runs groups for practicing focusing? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:11:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMBBee020089 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:11:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:11:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00684AE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:51:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3448602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:51:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GLp9MQ020219 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:51:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so643195nzo for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr700182nzc; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:51:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RVcnPJPJglCatFjcwnOP++3iYoSWTd6Zrj72OmhTpRuDn/HlUAQ4eVxxgT2X1KajB0Acxt3ZeidkC/2gDmvSCc0GjQmXSa1J1EVlwNhKIw7wpXaO+jcbFlaqwbbi6FKhTOFweIUcokCnh7PHNqpyhjQjSGiOmnC7CSjQcfqLyzQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050616145178739c03@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:51:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael In-Reply-To: <20050616213147.GF98933@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44582773.20050615142152@gailndan.com> <42B0D9AF.4040506@maynor.net> <20050616014806.GA85539@words-l.org> <42B0E58C.5070002@maynor.net> <20050616213147.GF98933@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GLpAMQ020220 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Finger? What finger? This is email! I can't see your hand! Are you giving Natalie the finger? Talk to the hand! Karen (who learned this expression on Words-L) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:14:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMEOee020392 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:14:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:14:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC584C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:14:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3450292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:14:24 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GMENYw022269 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:14:23 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23323012 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:14:41 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:14:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:14:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1592717951.20050616161422@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I am... In-Reply-To: References: <20050615205743.GB29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> <200506152108.j5FL8r7O012611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 228, in=82743, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/16/2005, 9:28 AM, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> >= no longer a Twix virgin. >> >Like, the candy bar, or something else. >> Candy bar, I hope, otherwise TMI! BO> Candy bar doesn't exclude TMI. Twix are suitably shaped, if a bit BO> crumbly, and they'd give new meaning to "Two for me... none for you." I'm sure most women have experienced some "crumbling" or similar experiences....pick the adjective of your choice. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:15:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMFXee020544 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:15:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:15:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC589F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:15:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3450331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:15:33 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GMFWNs022392 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:15:32 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23257081 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:25:16 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:15:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:15:31 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1798960925.20050616161531@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: References: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 231, in=96575, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/16/2005, 9:52 AM, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: LK> Under the circumstances, I can't say that I would be too upset if it LK> turned out the Pennsyvania plane was shot down rather than taken over by LK> passengers (it would be sadly ironic if it were both). But my LK> understanding is that the whole thing happened so fast, and there was so LK> much initial confusion, that it just wasn't possible to intercept the LK> planes. One hundred percent agreement on all of that. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:34:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMYWee022642 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:34:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:34:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC58F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:34:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3450935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:34:32 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMOVao023289 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:24:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 58353 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:24:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:24:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616222430.GA57303@words-l.org> References: <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <419396705.20050613121223@gailndan.com> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <59437517.20050615141808@gailndan.com> <20050615202841.GD19420@words-l.org> <923605580.20050615205727@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <923605580.20050615205727@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:57:27PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 2:28 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> Sure. How many photons in a pixel? > > DMH> (It's avogadro's constant, isn't it.) > > No, not the Avogadro number. It is the Avocado Number, which can best > be found in the classic movie "Cannibal Women In The Avocado Jungle Of > Death". It is a constant in that film. Aha! If it's a constant they must be fighting over it. This one goes into my "netflix" right now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:35:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMZBee022700 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:35:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:35:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC5937@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:35:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3450969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:35:11 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMPAod023353 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:25:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 58774 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:25:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:25:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050616222510.GB57303@words-l.org> References: <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <83db447a050614192418a18e5f@mail.gmail.com> <42AF9554.1050100@maynor.net> <896449979.20050614215906@gailndan.com> <42B00A09.1060706@maynor.net> <20050615191724.GE66507@words-l.org> <194090110.20050615142317@gailndan.com> <20050615203007.GA24038@words-l.org> <995835769.20050615205856@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <995835769.20050615205856@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:58:56PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 2:30 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > DMH> That's wonderful. I am sure his sound is pretty > DMH> "homegrown"? > > I'm sure you're not familiar with Mr. Henley from what you're saying > above. What can I say? I am from across the 7 seas. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:35:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMZcee022763 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:35:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:35:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC5939@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:35:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3451012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:35:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMPcQJ023465 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:25:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 59280 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:25:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:25:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050616222537.GC57303@words-l.org> References: <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> <20050615194151.GD95943@words-l.org> <1478156269.20050615142619@gailndan.com> <20050615203111.GC24038@words-l.org> <1131251516.20050615210029@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1131251516.20050615210029@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:00:29PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 2:31 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > DMH> You didn't say "grasshopper"? Damn! > > Doubt I've said that word since I left Nebraska in 76 It's come back BIG TIME. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:36:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMaOee022864 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:36:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:36:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC5953@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:36:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3451066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:36:24 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMQMU7023533 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:26:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 59922 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:26:22 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:26:22 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616222621.GD57303@words-l.org> References: <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513404ce8e514@mail.gmail.com> <20050615205637.GA33213@words-l.org> <303712497.20050615210356@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <303712497.20050615210356@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:03:56PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 2:56 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> My application program (The Bat!) is breaking on > DMH> this. > > well, are you really using The Bat! too? Not many of us out there, at > least in the US I guess. I've been using it for about three years, > maybe four since I dumped Eudora. Ha! I knew you didn't read the headers ... I use Mutt. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:37:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMaxee022943 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:37:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:37:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC5955@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:36:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3451098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:36:59 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMQvA3023567 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:26:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 60056 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:26:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:26:57 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand Message-ID: <20050616222657.GE57303@words-l.org> References: <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <20050615193542.GA95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615131231590f5f@mail.gmail.com> <20050615202108.GC19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050615135063c8b4ff@mail.gmail.com> <20050615210655.GA38083@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061514243b8efec5@mail.gmail.com> <20050615220316.GB67284@words-l.org> <661590676.20050615210658@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <661590676.20050615210658@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:06:58PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 4:03 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> Did you know I lost my verginity in a vending > >> machine? > > DMH> If you tip it at the correct angle and shake it it > DMH> might fall out. > > But remember the warning labels....it might tip over and smash and > kill you. An appropriate risk level for recovering virginity, I think. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:37:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMbgee022972 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:37:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:37:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC590D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:37:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3451888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:37:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GMbfvY026459 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:37:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so662743nzo for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.73 with SMTP id t73mr630875nzg; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:37:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DaCn96FpnKc8+mmRJTN6WclzFvPkFmOEoWmpOLDOYzF3Onj02qDRmkkDgQAYMmIOSIQuanOkixqD/J3vUF73NHGI6AJTzMmxiMKRgZsQRua0G0rQzvzppGb0CpAvqj3zTOVB9SonahFjsmxGWpTUkFnWTSaQqU47oAAJj678sPc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061615377655233@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:37:41 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <20050616222430.GA57303@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42AD79EC.3080408@maynor.net> <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <59437517.20050615141808@gailndan.com> <20050615202841.GD19420@words-l.org> <923605580.20050615205727@gailndan.com> <20050616222430.GA57303@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GMbfvY026460 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > This one goes into my "netflix" right now. Into your Netflix *queue*, you mean. Speaking of which, I finally saw "Garden State" last night. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:38:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMcbee023014 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:38:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:38:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC5915@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:38:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3451966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:38:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GMcaT2026538 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:38:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so158499nzp for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr856618nzc; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:38:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CguGIKO1e/drXndg7tCkhsA2jO9Gz5GU3g2sH/UQL8MxTVanbYPPlNmr/oqQwl7+tdy51vvN1DKxSyucxmJo8Ok8U8JqWGn/CFxHk2/L6mmRMo+kEz1EV1UvlzFaEvTwb6aBRLWoOwrW9ObAixHRrHh6INeRmVVGLQ2bKBEM/N4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506161538691a54f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:38:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: <20050616222621.GD57303@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513404ce8e514@mail.gmail.com> <20050615205637.GA33213@words-l.org> <303712497.20050615210356@gailndan.com> <20050616222621.GD57303@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5GMcbT2026539 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Ha! I knew you didn't read the headers ... I use Mutt. Because you are one? Ha! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:39:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMdkee023141 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:39:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:39:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC5917@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:39:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3451485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:39:46 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMTiut023956 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:29:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 61564 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:29:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:29:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050616222944.GF57303@words-l.org> References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:18:24PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 5:44 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> But I don't think in > NM> general that there's any > NM> big difference between such behavior in and age>> and in the > NM> past. Why do you think there is? > > I can only say that I feel there is much less of it. Have not done > formal research, don't know who, if anyone, has done so. And not > quite sure how you'd measure it. As to why, I'd say general decline in > values and morality. As to why American? Not sure why, or if....but > it is the only one I can comment on with any surety. > > Again, if anyone has any evidence, as opposed to contrary opinion, I'd > be particularly interested. Of course contrary opinion is fine > too....as if I could stop it if I wanted, which I don't. So you hold an opinion, and anyone opposing it has to provide evidence? That's evidence enough for me. Personal responsiblity has gone to hell. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:40:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMefee023245 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:40:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:40:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC591A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:40:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:40:41 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GMeZEV026676 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:40:35 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC5968@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:40:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200506162240.j5GMeZEV026676@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:40:35 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Nut job of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:15:31 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >6/16/2005, 9:52 AM, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > >LK> Under the circumstances, I can't say that I would be too upset if it >LK> turned out the Pennsyvania plane was shot down rather than taken over by >LK> passengers (it would be sadly ironic if it were both). But my >LK> understanding is that the whole thing happened so fast, and there was so >LK> much initial confusion, that it just wasn't possible to intercept the >LK> planes. > >One hundred percent agreement on all of that. This is an extremely rare exception to my general feeling about military activity. While I would regret it extremely, I would have understood the logic if it had been acknowledged that the plane had been shot down. I would consider it shameful in the extreme if it turned out that the dead were dishonored by lies about the manner of their deaths under "friendly fire". I understand that the official story is that there wasn't time; in fact, a lot of the report I read was a lengthy explanation of why there wasn't time. However, none of those time calculations mentions this batch of planes which not only don't get a mention in that timeline, but were up long enough that we heard about them BEFORE we heard about the first tower, which we heard about in time to SEE the live shot of the second tower (I think), or VERY shortly thereafter, and certainly before the towers collapsed. PS - they didn't take off toward NYC. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:42:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMggee023338 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:42:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:42:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC5920@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:42:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:42:41 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GMgb7b026825 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:42:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC591F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:42:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200506162242.j5GMgb7b026825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:42:37 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:26:57 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:06:58PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >> 6/15/2005, 4:03 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >> >> Did you know I lost my verginity in a vending >> >> machine? >> >> DMH> If you tip it at the correct angle and shake it it >> DMH> might fall out. >> >> But remember the warning labels....it might tip over and smash and >> kill you. > >An appropriate risk level for recovering virginity, I think. For recovering, or recovering FROM? Why would you want VG back again? Most people spend the best part of their use trying to lost it! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:43:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMhXee023504 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:43:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:43:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC5921@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:43:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3451661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:43:28 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMXSfk025962 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:33:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 63648 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:33:27 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:33:27 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: E-Bay Message-ID: <20050616223327.GG57303@words-l.org> References: <200506151659.j5FGxx2V008060@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615164619.02e17db0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050616012802.GC73737@words-l.org> <1452798766.20050615212700@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1452798766.20050615212700@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:27:00PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/15/2005, 7:28 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> I saw a storefornt yesterday that said it was to be > DMH> an > DMH> "ebay dropoff point". How long's this shit been going > DMH> on? > > There are three businesses in metro Boise that are in the "ebay > middleman business" or "agent business" or whatever. You give them > the stuff, they sell it for you, keep a commission. Sort of like a > consignment store I guess. Have seen a couple articles in the paper > about them, but have never visited one. Believe the first one here > was about a year ago. This sounded different. There was a prominent ebay logo there, and nothing else. It seems like ebay's own thing--partly a convenince, partly another level of security (no money transferred until the object shows up at the dropoff). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:53:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMr0ee024657 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:53:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:53:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00684D5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:52:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:52:59 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMgvm2026872 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:42:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 68425 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:42:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:42:54 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences Message-ID: <20050616224254.GH57303@words-l.org> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <8ddfc8a70506160853346009f1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506160853346009f1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 10:53:31AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/16/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > 3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. > > > > The grammar seems fine, but the definite article is non-idiomatic. > > It topicalizes that phrase. > > But this is another sentence I'd want to rewrite to "People whose work > gives them pleasure are happy." Really? I would say "Happy are those who..." Sounds nice and informal. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 17:54:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GMsHee024849 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:54:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:54:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC5998@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:54:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:54:17 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMiFLp026927 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:44:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 69267 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:44:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:44:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences Message-ID: <20050616224414.GI57303@words-l.org> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 11:14:16AM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > >1) It is because he is sincere that I trust him. > > > >This is fine and grammatical, but it would be better expressed directly: > >"I trust him because he is sincere." > > Karen will declare this a passive-aggressive statement, but I disagree > that it would *necessarily* be better expressed directly. It depends on > the situation. It-cleft sentences allow us to shift emphasis. In the > above example the because clause is being emphasized. When he said better, he meant it in the "style checker" sense. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:06:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GN62ee026285 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC59C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:19 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMlIkf027249 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:47:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 70365 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:47:18 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:47:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Do you ever say... Message-ID: <20050616224718.GL57303@words-l.org> References: <83db447a0506151858288bc221@mail.gmail.com> <20050616170457.3279@smtp.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050616170457.3279@smtp.asu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 10:04:57AM -0700, Hank Harken wrote: > >> In answer to the earlier question, Hank is clearly not just another > >> Richard persona! > > > ...for which, may we all be grateful. > > Is that almost a compliment ? > > - Hank No, it's a complement--look at the "..." before it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:06:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GN62ee026287 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC59CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:59:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:59:02 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMn1VU027339 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:49:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 71182 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:49:01 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:49:01 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: y'all might be interested in this... Message-ID: <20050616224901.GN57303@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:19:56PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > ..or you may have already heard about it. It's not NEW news, but it is > new to me. > > Greenpeace is doing a national test of mercury levels in people. For > $25 you can get a confidential test kit (hair sampling) and they compile > the data. > > https://secureusa.greenpeace.org/mercury/ > > If you're interested Dumb Fuckers! They live in big ass Manhattan penthouses and have never seen a tree in their life! Fuckem! BFD From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:06:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GN62ee026284 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC596A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:56:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:56:01 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMk1rY027099 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:46:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 70110 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:46:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:46:00 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael Message-ID: <20050616224600.GK57303@words-l.org> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <20050615195315.GA5769@words-l.org> <42B1AC68.5020201@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B1AC68.5020201@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 07:44:24PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>Yet it probably wasn't him who sent an image of the latter into my > >>mirror the other morning. I had dyed my hair the day before -- not too > >>dark but, however, it was a bit darker than just before dyeing. And my > >>face was unusually pale after just getting up. And the length and the > >>slight wave of my hair is close to what MJ has. I was a bit startled. > >>The nose was more or less mine, though. > >> > >> > > > >Well, surely you must have done SOMETHING wrong. > > > > > Hmm. I did not share my bedroom with anybody I shouldn't have -- this I > can remember. > What else could it be? ... Prolly... Prolly I had put on a wrong pair of > ears? > Or perhaps I had put on hardly anything? -- Hard to believe this would > make me look like him. > What else? > Maybe it all was just a warning: don't look into the mirror too often, > and certainly not when only half awake? Sorry, I am little distracted right now. Will get back to this later. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:06:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GN62ee026286 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC59C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMllvV027270 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:47:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 70442 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:47:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:47:47 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences Message-ID: <20050616224747.GM57303@words-l.org> References: <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B1A8BC.2020605@istori.com> <42B1B5A4.2080007@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B1B5A4.2080007@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:23:48PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > >>It-cleft sentences allow us to shift emphasis. In the > >>above example the because clause is being emphasized. > > > >Yes, you're right. Although in print, I would then expect the word > >"because" to be emphasized (bold, italic; in email, asterisks, etc.). > > I'm thinking of these sentences as spoken rather than written since the > question was about grammaticality (though I realize that you said it was > grammatical before adding the part about the better wording). How passive aggressive! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:06:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GN62ef026285 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC598E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:01:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:01:28 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMpR86027634 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:51:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 72672 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:51:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:51:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Adam: locked files in Frame Message-ID: <20050616225126.GP57303@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70506161213c979e0@mail.gmail.com> <20050616191806.GB4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050616191806.GB4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:18:06PM +0200, steph wrote: > = The answer is Esc+flk. > = > = Karen > > Escape Filk? Stay away from science fiction conventioners singing > hacked songs? I LOVE that genre. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:06:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GN62ef026287 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC59E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:02:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:02:46 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMqKnt027725 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:52:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 72856 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:52:20 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:52:20 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing Message-ID: <20050616225220.GQ57303@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bravo. On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 03:35:33PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > a good sig line ? > > BrP > > >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 6/16/2005 3:24:39 PM >>> > > I'm content with small pictures and cheap wine. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:06:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GN62ef026284 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC59F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:04:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:04:32 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMsVdY027829 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:54:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 73421 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:54:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:54:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050616225430.GR57303@words-l.org> References: <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> <42B16983.4000709@maynor.net> <011401c572ac$f18713b0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <8ddfc8a7050616125645e51805@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050616125645e51805@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:56:44PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/16/05, David Guy Fetzer wrote: > > My sentiments exactly. Our leaders will find out, to their disappointment, > > that you cannot legislate morality. > > Especially when you are a bad example of it. Why can't you legislate morality? It's only bloody people in the legislature, not "positronic robots". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:06:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GN62ee026288 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC59D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:00:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:00:59 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMovKb027587 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:50:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 72407 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:50:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:50:57 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing Message-ID: <20050616225057.GO57303@words-l.org> References: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> <20050616191651.GA4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050616191651.GA4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:16:51PM +0200, steph wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:10:55PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = Why are you having a party? And why is the sumo picture so big? > = > > Bitch, bitch, bitch!!! Geez, she finally gets a decent bit of detail > out of that camera and you have to go and complain? An immense picture of some guy's ass? Bitch on, sister From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:07:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GN72ee026365 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:07:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:07:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC59A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:07:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:07:02 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMv14e028090 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 75032 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:57:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:57:00 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael Message-ID: <20050616225700.GS57303@words-l.org> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44582773.20050615142152@gailndan.com> <42B0D9AF.4040506@maynor.net> <20050616014806.GA85539@words-l.org> <42B0E58C.5070002@maynor.net> <20050616213147.GF98933@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050616145178739c03@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050616145178739c03@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 04:51:09PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/16/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Finger? What finger? This is email! I can't see your hand! > > Are you giving Natalie the finger? Talk to the hand! > > Karen > (who learned this expression on Words-L) Is this a fantastci list, or what? Here is a couple more "new" expressions for you: Talk to the wrist, coz the hand's pissed. Talk to the booty coz the wrist's off duty. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:07:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GN7iee026406 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:07:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:07:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC59EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:07:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:07:43 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMvho8028144 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:43 -0400 Received: (qmail 75149 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:57:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:57:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050616225742.GT57303@words-l.org> References: <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B0C2DB.1080607@maynor.net> <20050616012838.GD73737@words-l.org> <42B0E130.6060603@maynor.net> <20050616202658.GB98933@words-l.org> <42B1F7C8.9040407@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B1F7C8.9040407@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 05:06:00PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>>Who the hell is Darrell? > >>> > >>> > >>Darrell Wade. > >> > >> > >Wow, didn't recognize him at all. > > > He was kind of far away and behind tree branches and wearing goggles. No, he just looks older. How's his mother doing? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:15:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GNFEee027382 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:15:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:15:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00684E1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:55:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:55:13 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMjCHJ026987 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:45:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 69578 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:45:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:45:12 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Torkel is awesome! Message-ID: <20050616224512.GJ57303@words-l.org> References: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: > In December's catalog of the Scientific American book club, Torkel's > newly published G?del book was chosen to be an alternate selection. > > I'm married to a genius! Oh, it's come out then? AK Peters, right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:15:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GNFEee027383 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:15:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:15:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00684C93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:09:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:09:42 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMxfkD028276 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:59:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 76317 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:59:41 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:59:41 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael Message-ID: <20050616225941.GV57303@words-l.org> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <44582773.20050615142152@gailndan.com> <42B0D9AF.4040506@maynor.net> <20050616014806.GA85539@words-l.org> <42B0E58C.5070002@maynor.net> <20050616213147.GF98933@words-l.org> <42B1F8A0.1050701@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B1F8A0.1050701@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 05:09:36PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Finger? What finger? This is email! I can't see your hand! > > > > > > ^ > | | > | | > | | > ^ | | ^ > ^ | | | | | | > | | | | | | | | > | U U U | ^ > | | / / > | |/ / > | / > | / > This, they save on the server. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:18:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GNHwee027640 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:17:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:18:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC5A12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:11:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3453565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:11:49 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GNBnkR029806 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:11:49 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.211.58]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616231149.CVPP26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:11:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.211.58]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050616231148.QFEJ29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:11:48 -0400 Message-ID: <42B20733.4080802@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:11:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508483cd06fe7@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615085909.0279c170@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B0C2DB.1080607@maynor.net> <20050616012838.GD73737@words-l.org> <42B0E130.6060603@maynor.net> <20050616202658.GB98933@words-l.org> <42B1F7C8.9040407@maynor.net> <20050616225742.GT57303@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050616225742.GT57303@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>He was kind of far away and behind tree branches and wearing goggles. >> >> >No, he just looks older. How's his mother doing? > > I don't know his mother. But there go Mrs. Crook and Benji. I'm keeping an eye on the window in case guests start showing up pretty soon. I have no idea how many people are coming. Remind me to turn dog-side up again on the loveseat in the living room after the party. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:18:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GNHwee027639 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:17:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:18:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC59CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:11:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:11:18 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GN1HOI028446 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:01:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 77156 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 23:01:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:01:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day Message-ID: <20050616230117.GX57303@words-l.org> References: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> <1798960925.20050616161531@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1798960925.20050616161531@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 04:15:31PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/16/2005, 9:52 AM, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > LK> Under the circumstances, I can't say that I would be too upset if it > LK> turned out the Pennsyvania plane was shot down rather than taken over by > LK> passengers (it would be sadly ironic if it were both). But my > LK> understanding is that the whole thing happened so fast, and there was so > LK> much initial confusion, that it just wasn't possible to intercept the > LK> planes. > > One hundred percent agreement on all of that. 99.997% for me ... "Ironic"? That's just an abuse of the word. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:18:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GNHwee027641 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:17:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:18:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC5A0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:10:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:10:08 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GN07po028298 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:00:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 76591 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 23:00:07 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:00:07 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I am... Message-ID: <20050616230007.GW57303@words-l.org> References: <20050615205743.GB29615@yoccoz.multinix.com> <200506152108.j5FL8r7O012611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1592717951.20050616161422@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1592717951.20050616161422@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 04:14:22PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/16/2005, 9:28 AM, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > >> >= no longer a Twix virgin. > >> >Like, the candy bar, or something else. > >> Candy bar, I hope, otherwise TMI! > > BO> Candy bar doesn't exclude TMI. Twix are suitably shaped, if a bit > BO> crumbly, and they'd give new meaning to "Two for me... none for you." > > I'm sure most women have experienced some "crumbling" or similar > experiences....pick the adjective of your choice. I'm sure most Americans have been to Europe. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:18:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GNHwee027642 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:17:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:18:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC59B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:07:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:07:58 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5GMvud8028155 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:56 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5GMvVvd028856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: re toadfrogs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: If I packaged him and mailed him, he might expire enroute. Maybe I could buy him a bus ticket. Or I guess I could use some ff miles to buy him a plane ticket. Sure. And John, my taxidriver friend here in Omaha, can pick him up for me. There is a cottontail who lives right outside my building, so he will have a companion. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:18:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GNHwee027643 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:17:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:18:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC5A08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:09:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:09:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GMxHIi028241 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:59:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 76189 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 22:59:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:59:17 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616225917.GU57303@words-l.org> References: <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <42B0D4D0.3090403@maynor.net> <20050616013520.GB77842@words-l.org> <42B0E21F.2030705@maynor.net> <20050616202848.GC98933@words-l.org> <42B1F7FA.8010201@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B1F7FA.8010201@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 05:06:50PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Right, Dr Natalie ... your "masses-type" suggestion versus > >36 focus groups worlwide ... uh huh ... > > > Focus groups? Canon runs groups for practicing focusing? Well, a lot of effort goes into even the cheapest mass-appeal gadget, Dr Nat. And it's a proven fact that meditation in groups improves your photographic skills. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:18:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GNHwef027639 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:18:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:18:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC5A2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:13:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3453054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:13:03 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GN32mI028563 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:03:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 77883 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 23:03:02 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:03:02 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616230301.GA77525@words-l.org> References: <20050614163645.GA6682@words-l.org> <42AF5ED0.9030105@maynor.net> <20050614234211.GA46256@words-l.org> <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <59437517.20050615141808@gailndan.com> <20050615202841.GD19420@words-l.org> <923605580.20050615205727@gailndan.com> <20050616222430.GA57303@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061615377655233@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061615377655233@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 05:37:41PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/16/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > This one goes into my "netflix" right now. > > Into your Netflix *queue*, you mean. What a "fuddy duddy"! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:18:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GNHwef027640 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:18:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:18:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC5A20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:16:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3453182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:16:46 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GN6jTC028949 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:06:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 79747 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 23:06:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:06:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050616230644.GB77525@words-l.org> References: <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513404ce8e514@mail.gmail.com> <20050615205637.GA33213@words-l.org> <303712497.20050615210356@gailndan.com> <20050616222621.GD57303@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506161538691a54f7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506161538691a54f7@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 05:38:36PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/16/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Ha! I knew you didn't read the headers ... I use Mutt. > > Because you are one? Ha! I don't get it. Is it a "Don Henley" reference? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 18:28:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5GNSnee028704 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:28:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:28:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC59EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:18:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3453284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:18:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5GN8ilD029294 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:08:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 80440 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Jun 2005 23:08:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:08:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: make myself understood/understand Message-ID: <20050616230844.GC77525@words-l.org> References: <200506162242.j5GMgb7b026825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506162242.j5GMgb7b026825@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:42:37PM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:26:57 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog L.ORG> wrote: > > >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 09:06:58PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > >> 6/15/2005, 4:03 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> > >> >> Did you know I lost my verginity in a vending > >> >> machine? > >> > >> DMH> If you tip it at the correct angle and shake it it > >> DMH> might fall out. > >> > >> But remember the warning labels....it might tip over and smash and > >> kill you. > > > >An appropriate risk level for recovering virginity, I think. > > For recovering, or recovering FROM? > > Why would you want VG back again? Most people spend the best part of > their use trying to lost it! How sad! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 19:21:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H0LKee001930 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:21:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:21:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC5B43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:21:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3455883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:21:20 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H0LJf1007361 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:21:19 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050617002119m92008ia29e>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:21:19 +0000 Message-ID: <00d501c572d2$81bfdaa0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B00A91.1010103@maynor.net> <00df01c571d3$c6ac5cb0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B0D30E.6060706@maynor.net> <007101c57286$6dcf8d70$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B1A3DD.9010106@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:21:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: Yes it is. But it truly is closer to Decatur. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day > David Guy Fetzer wrote: > >> My nativity (as you put it) was just outside Atlanta in Emory University, > > I thought Emory was within Atlanta. Is its mailing address Emory > University, GA? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 20:16:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H1Gdee009436 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:16:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:16:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC5BDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:05:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3457203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:05:33 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H15W8Z011014 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:05:33 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005061701053101100e7tige>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:05:32 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam: locked files in Frame Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:05:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506161213c979e0@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My brain is totally fried. I called my Frame Answer Man, who assured > me that I have had this problem at least twice before. We found the > answer in Frame Help, but since I only have this problem about every > six months, I forget in between. The answer is Esc+flk. > > Karen Ah. I'm glad you got it resolved. (and, after some research, it's Esc-F-l-k. Glad I tried it on a junk document instead of my work...) --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 20:16:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H1Gdee009438 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:16:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:16:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC5BEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:08:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3457322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:08:21 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H18KPx011227 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:08:20 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005061701082001400mufhne>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:08:20 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: The Camera Answer Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:08:16 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061615377655233@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Speaking of which, I finally saw "Garden State" last night. What'd you think? I thought the movie itself was OK, but the much-ballyhoo'd soundtrack failed to materialize for me. Snooze. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 20:25:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H1Owee010507 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:24:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:25:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC5D7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:24:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3460695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:24:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H1Ovnh015840 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:24:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so195851nzp for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.17.14 with SMTP id 14mr976718nzq; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.4.11 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:24:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=huw0XDbJtvezK6RCc19e8/hU7YGOxvTC8zba3GApSR2JnFzXS6ln18IyCo+3OL+N4JtWN5MiuIKwRBhf7XO3GBkEsJt3MY6H3hbkijZ930dF2EJnc7lUJCKo14aYvdEcBoWr+Ya1G+Dao0TrLaOCDEc2vVVeT/icxgYjLhZQ1qA= Message-ID: <3c1d5b500506161824476fbcc5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:24:57 -0700 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Torkel is awesome! In-Reply-To: <20050616224512.GJ57303@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> <20050616224512.GJ57303@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5H1Ovnh015841 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > In December's catalog of the Scientific American book club, Torkel's > > newly published G?del book was chosen to be an alternate selection. > > > > I'm married to a genius! Gratulerer! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 21:17:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H2H8ee017729 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:17:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:17:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00684FF8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:17:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3462808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:17:07 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H2H77S021138 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:17:07 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050617021706m9100ngnm0e>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:17:07 +0000 Message-ID: <04bd01c572e2$af35ef50$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <1948185650.20050614101752@gailndan.com> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> <42B16983.4000709@maynor.net> <011401c572ac$f18713b0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B1F795.7060806@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Brad Pictures Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:17:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: As they would say, Amen! Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Brad Pictures > David Guy Fetzer wrote: > >> My sentiments exactly. Our leaders will find out, to their >> disappointment, >> that you cannot legislate morality. > > I certainly hope they don't legislate *their* so-called morals. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 21:35:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H2Z6ee019867 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:35:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:35:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC5DFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:01:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3462013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:01:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H21u88019473 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:01:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so735714nzo for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.12 with SMTP id y12mr839544nzb; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:01:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ovNhmHDitz/xKy78DRqvIpONvXn52sDzk4G+gNB7fKt90lA1pBvktVcSgQRQN1Kz96gxeENEtwGdz9d83BPUKJkgsE+0mR/PfO2ngG2fK5wC0R49vr4XoaWM/Ei3fNVB1Obs64bzRM9P+TtVha+hzN/bVaWUbo7LjKSfs5QQIAw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050616190178495776@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:01:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: No matter what happens... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5H21u88019474 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No matter what happens in the rest of the finals, the Pistons are an amazing team. It was painful to watch them the first two games, but they are *so* on right now. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 21:35:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H2Z6ee019868 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:35:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:35:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC5DA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:57:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3461825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:57:45 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H1vjRN018840 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:57:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so275143nzp for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.11 with SMTP id x11mr850775nzx; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:57:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m7sNbg/dZsRzKubQkpjxW7S+Pra+Yi26ibE9auT9qhxhEGxmEyV08t34SU5s0rmU4cbppJckkUrFbme2su2gN3VFhs4sryn5R3I3cXVuVBT9YScZa4pnoUE1+a8C91zVPKlszhF7jhjFe6Btxjpb2+8D7Jw+BA4dTjLnm6rq4CE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061618571aee50c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:57:44 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705061615377655233@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5H1vjRN018841 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/16/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Speaking of which, I finally saw "Garden State" last night. > > What'd you think? > > I thought the movie itself was OK, but the much-ballyhoo'd soundtrack failed > to materialize for me. Snooze. I liked the screaming from the crane, and that was pretty much it. Soundtrack mostly got in the way. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 21:35:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H2Z6ee019864 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:35:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:35:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC5D9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:55:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3461723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:55:05 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5H1t3d6018493 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:55:04 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061703532109044 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:53:21 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:55:03 +0200 Message-ID: <42B22D74.8070408@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:55:00 -0700 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Killing a plenary speaker References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> <42B16963.9010506@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2005 01:55:03.0759 (UTC) FILETIME=[9414C5F0:01C572DF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc skrev 16.06.2005 07:10: >On 6/16/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > >>I am going to chair a session at the conference today where one of the >>abstracts is in Spanish. I have understood the main points, I believe, >>and I have met the authors and explained that my Spanish is not good >>enough to introduce them in Spanish. But there was a plenary speaker >>yesterday who spoke about - among other things - a website she had made >>on the history of reading and writing. Sadly it became evident that she >>doesn't really know anything about this >> >> > >She knows nothing about the history of reading and writing, or of >websites? The former seems more likely from the context, but then why >would such a person be a plenary speaker at this conference? > > > She knows websites and has worked at Xerox Park. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 22:19:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H3JLee025316 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:19:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:19:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC6066@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:19:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3467314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:19:21 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H3JJJa027104 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:19:19 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC6052@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:19:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200506170319.j5H3JJJa027104@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:19:19 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: One in Every Training/Workshop Event To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was in a "workshop/training event" on the applications of the Kurzweil 3000 software, conducted at my campus. Some other area folks who use the program in their schools were also there. http://www.kurzweiledu.com/products_k3000win.asp There was one woman from an area public-school district who interrupted the trainer seemingly every five minutes or so with some increasingly hypothetical question about the application until it reached absurdity. After just about each instance she would interrupt what I was doing, and ask me how to get to the feature we were currently trying out in the program. The presenter handled her well and near the end he was just saying something like "there's a very good tutorial with the program." She kept mentioning the she was from Wisconsin. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 22:36:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H3aZee027123 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:36:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:36:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC616C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:36:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3469949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:36:34 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H3aXH9028644 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:36:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22328216 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:17:10 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:37:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:36:34 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <725271128.20050616213634@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: y'all might be interested in this... In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=80588, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Interesting. But even if you know how much you have, what if anything is there to be done with the info? dan 6/16/2005, 12:19 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> Greenpeace is doing a national test of mercury PB> levels in people. For PB> $25 you can get a confidential test kit (hair PB> sampling) and they compile PB> the data. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 22:39:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H3dIee027398 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:39:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:39:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC61BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:39:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3469988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:39:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H3dGho028801 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:39:17 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so771764nzo for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.78 with SMTP id t78mr896208nzg; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:39:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UCcnUEpsbrS0za+OxaXrHiPMiH6c9E53pID7KKEzc5jVi3RRR2hM0DQye68SK3+7VVxGsoYO7xkGzOiUig1jrcbWwNXBKwnYqw0jy63GULQnzvUiclPjlgdaAMdZOoeLdUtZnLo//AUZMTYp7SMhIlgUVUyXYzBl2/HS2v72G9U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050616203954d00838@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:39:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: y'all might be interested in this... In-Reply-To: <725271128.20050616213634@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <725271128.20050616213634@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5H3dHho028803 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Manage your fish intake. On 6/16/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Interesting. But even if you know how much you have, what if anything > is there to be done with the info? > > dan > > 6/16/2005, 12:19 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > PB> Greenpeace is doing a national test of mercury > PB> levels in people. For > PB> $25 you can get a confidential test kit (hair > PB> sampling) and they compile > PB> the data. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 22:43:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H3guee027701 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:42:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:43:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00685369@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:42:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3470046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:42:55 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H3gsj9029090 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:42:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23281013 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:52:41 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:43:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:42:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <328649816.20050616214254@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <20050616222537.GC57303@words-l.org> References: <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> <20050615194151.GD95943@words-l.org> <1478156269.20050615142619@gailndan.com> <20050615203111.GC24038@words-l.org> <1131251516.20050615210029@gailndan.com> <20050616222537.GC57303@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 231, in=96706, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/16/2005, 4:25 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> DMH> You didn't say "grasshopper"? Damn! >> >> Doubt I've said that word since I left Nebraska >> in 76 DMH> It's come back BIG TIME. Well we're not up on all the latest stuff out here in Ideehohoho. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 22:46:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H3k7ee028119 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:46:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:46:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC61B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:46:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3470090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:46:06 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H3k6MU029337 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:46:06 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.161.171]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617034606.CXUR8541.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:46:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.161.171]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617034606.FXNE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:46:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42B24779.7080207@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:46:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B00A91.1010103@maynor.net> <00df01c571d3$c6ac5cb0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B0D30E.6060706@maynor.net> <007101c57286$6dcf8d70$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B1A3DD.9010106@maynor.net> <00d501c572d2$81bfdaa0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> In-Reply-To: <00d501c572d2$81bfdaa0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU David Guy Fetzer wrote: > Natalie: > > Yes it is. But it truly is closer to Decatur. I'm confused. Yes it is what? The mailing address is Emory University, GA? Or it's in Atlanta? If the latter, how can it be closer to Decatur -- as in how can something that's inside a city be closer to a different city? (I understand how it can be closer to Decatur than to downtown Atlanta, of course, but not how it can be closer to Decatur than to Atlanta if it's in Atlanta.) Top posting drives me crazy. I guess I'll just leave all the earlier stuff dangling below. > Cheers, > > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Natalie Maynor" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: Nut job of the day > > >> David Guy Fetzer wrote: >> >>> My nativity (as you put it) was just outside Atlanta in Emory >>> University, >> >> >> I thought Emory was within Atlanta. Is its mailing address Emory >> University, GA? >> >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> > > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 16 22:50:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H3nxee028377 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:50:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:50:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC6186@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:49:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3470173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:49:59 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H3nwuh029616 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:49:59 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23096688 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:13:11 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:50:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:49:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <61897236.20050616214958@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: y'all might be interested in this... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050616203954d00838@mail.gmail.com> References: <725271128.20050616213634@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050616203954d00838@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 230, in=83959, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/16/2005, 9:39 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Manage your fish intake. In what manner, and in what kind of fish? And aren't there other sources? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 00:10:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H5Anee007954 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:10:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:10:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC63B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 1:00:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3474637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:00:48 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H50mW1006729 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:00:48 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.161.171]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617050048.UPAE13767.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:00:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.161.171]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617050043.YLBH1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:00:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42B258FA.1080405@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:00:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Frustrating Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We've discussed this before -- my desire for a CD of an old Robert Goullet album I had that included "Walk into the Dawn." I'm on a quest again (started when I was on Amazon -- actually am still on -- haven't finalized the order yet of YoYoMa and Emmylou Harris -- wanted to add Goullet). In poking around on the web, I've found sources for old albums, but that's not what I want. I gave away my old album not all that long ago. I want a CD of this album: http://www.musicstack.com/item/180597370/goulet,robert/summer+sounds Why in these days when pretty much anything is out there in whatever form one wants it in can I not find a CD of this mid-'60s album? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 01:32:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H6WUee017522 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:32:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:32:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC65B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 2:32:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3478251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:32:30 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H6WTYb015130 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:32:29 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5H6WSXf008346 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:32:28 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5H6WSqs008344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:32:28 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:32:28 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Camera Answer Message-ID: <20050617063228.GA8319@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <42AF8663.6090901@maynor.net> <20050615190017.GB66507@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061512245c5ea467@mail.gmail.com> <20050615195125.GE95943@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513117c260a0e@mail.gmail.com> <20050615201943.GB19420@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705061513404ce8e514@mail.gmail.com> <20050615205637.GA33213@words-l.org> <303712497.20050615210356@gailndan.com> <20050616222621.GD57303@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050616222621.GD57303@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Ha! I knew you didn't read the headers ... I use Mutt. Just so you know, I looked, just to check if you were telling stories. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 02:08:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H78Pee021636 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:08:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:08:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC661D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 3:08:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3479124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:08:25 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H78O53017788 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:08:24 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005061707082301100ct6oue>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:08:23 +0000 Message-ID: <42B276E6.8080202@istori.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:08:22 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Killing a plenary speaker References: <42AE3EF3.1080406@maynor.net> <8865866a0506140138259b8e28@mail.gmail.com> <42AEC0FE.2060808@maynor.net> <42B0CA82.6010509@gmail.com> <8865866a05061604123ddbabca@mail.gmail.com> <42B166C8.9050408@gmail.com> <42B16963.9010506@gmail.com> <42B22D74.8070408@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42B22D74.8070408@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen skrev, > She knows websites and has worked at Xerox Park. Nitpick: "PARC," for "Palo Alto Research Center." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 02:20:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5H7K2ee022945 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:20:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:20:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006854E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 3:20:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3479322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:20:02 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5H7K1NK018403 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:20:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so907804wri for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.51.26 with SMTP id y26mr1110199wry; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:20:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tuUj1mqwAa2lskME7XvB7q3ffncr9EnsY7c2z819qnQCK3ZckFZBbr5PNU1bDV/O65q7yfeJqCxzeeXIfOnISrRXlAF1WHHzn1DN8T5TLkYz7dYs7hVu/ZPxyR3wUvBbDcEaqW21W9oLjhFM4jTd6sTPJu31ouHDGC3H+DYE9mc= Message-ID: <8865866a05061700202742963b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:20:01 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Torkel is awesome! In-Reply-To: <20050616224512.GJ57303@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> <20050616224512.GJ57303@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5H7K1NK018404 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/17/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > In December's catalog of the Scientific American book club, Torkel's > > newly published G?del book was chosen to be an alternate selection. > > > > I'm married to a genius! > > Oh, it's come out then? > > AK Peters, right? > Yes, it was recently published and by AK Peters. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 05:32:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HAWjee020001 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 05:32:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 05:32:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC68A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 6:32:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3483963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:32:45 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HAWggk007010 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:32:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A934999E65 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:32:41 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19291-07 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:32:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EA199E68 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:32:40 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B2A6D8.7040602@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:32:56 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <20050615195315.GA5769@words-l.org> <42B1AC68.5020201@akad.ee> <20050616224600.GK57303@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050616224600.GK57303@words-l.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.515 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>>Well, surely you must have done SOMETHING wrong. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Hmm. [...] >>What else could it be? ... Prolly... >>Or perhaps [...] >>What else? [...] >>Maybe it all was just [...] >> >> > >Sorry, I am little distracted right now. > >Will get back to this later. > > Never mind. Which you probably didn't anyway. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 05:43:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HAhdee021756 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 05:43:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 05:43:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC68AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 6:43:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3484060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:43:25 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HAhORY007931 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:43:24 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:43:24 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:43:02 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: y'all might be interested in this... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 06/16/05 11:36 PM >>> >Interesting. But even if you know how much you have, what if anything >is there to be done with the info? >dan Greenpece is seeking a larger sampling of the general population as evidence about the extent of mercury polution. That's thing one. Thing two is that individuals who discover they have high levels can be treated. The most common treatment would be chelation. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 06:35:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HBZ1ee028607 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:35:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:35:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC6926@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 7:35:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3475526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:35:01 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HBZ1SA006057 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:35:01 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.78.55]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617113501.QABM8692.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:35:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.78.55]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617113500.NYYU13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:35:00 -0400 Message-ID: <42B2B564.50401@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:35:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: <42B258FA.1080405@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42B258FA.1080405@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I gave up on my quest to find a CD of that particular album but ordered a RG CD that should be almost as good: *********** Thanks for your order, Natalie Maynor! 1 "16 Most Requested Songs" Robert Goulet; Audio CD; $10.99 1 "Profile (The Best of Emmylou Harris)" Emmylou Harris; Audio CD; $10.99 1 "Vivaldi's Cello" Wouter Verschuren; Audio CD; $13.99 *********** -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 06:49:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HBnJee030130 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:49:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:49:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC69B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 7:49:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3476065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:49:19 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HBnIHN007502 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:49:18 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5HBnCJT031997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:49:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:49:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day In-Reply-To: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> Message-ID: References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Dan Lester wrote: > The REAL reasons the World Trade Center came down....it wasn't the > damn planes after all.... > > http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html The problem with paranoia is that paranoid explanations of events are both logically tidy and emotionally appealing. In the paranoid worldview, there are no coincidences, no loose ends, a reason for everything. Occasionally the paranoid view turns out to be correct, but not often. The emotional pull of the paranoid view should always be resisted. It is tempting, for example, to look back at catastrophic events which turned out to advantage a specific group and find some reason to believe that the advantaged group deliberately caused the catastrophe. The terrorist attacks on 9/11 obviously rescued GWB's popularity and increased the power of his administration. There was the suspicion among some (parallel to the story about FDR and Pearl Harbor) that the president and his advisors knew in advance about the attacks and did nothing to stop them, rather, they sat back, let them happen, and reaped the political rewards. Even for those of us with a very low opinion of the current adminstration's moral compass, that is very hard to swallow. The link above takes this a very large step further. The planes weren't enough, he says, to knock down the towers. Rather, he concludes, it was a professional demolition job with explosives carefully installed in critical places to bring all three buildings (including WTC 7) down very neatly into their footprints. He marshals a lot of plausible engineering evidence for this, and points to what he describes as FEMA's tight control over the debris to prevent it from being examined. I certainly wouldn't call this guy a "nut job". But if it was really an evil conspiracy involving agents of the U.S. government in the deaths of almost 3,000 people, it has to make sense going forward as well as backward. And this is where it breaks down. In advance of 9/11, it certainly wouldn't be obvious that a devastating terrorist attack would redound to the benefit of the party in power. In fact it did, but it didn't have to. Moreover, the administration was at the time downplaying and shrugging off the risk of just such an attack, and rejecting the advice from the predecessors to take this seriously and make it a priority. That didn't end up being much of an issue, but it could easily have been. Second, the demolition activities would have had to be tightly coordinated with the suicide bombers. I think even a paranoid view would have to admit that Al Qaeda is a real organization with real terrorists and that the hijackings were a genuine terrorist act, not something planned and sponsored by the CIA. It is also plainly the fact that the plans and preparations for the attack started during the Clinton Administration, long before a hypothetically super-evil stop-at-nothing Bush junta could have anticipated the political benefits to be gained from such an attack. So the fallback position for the paranoid view has to be that the Bush folks did not create the attack, but, knowing in advance that it was going to happen, and somehow understanding (without any precedents to work from) that the fires caused by the planes would burn themselves out without causing any collapse, decided to intervene to increase the devastation. Accordingly, they sent a team of demolition experts to install explosives in the then fully occupied WTC buildings. So, under this theory, they found demolition experts who were willing to be mass murderers, and who quietly set up the buildings to implode neatly, without anyone noticing the weeks of extensive work that is usually required to accomplish this, including drilling and notching beams and installing lots of explosive charges. Moreover, such a demolition would have left behind lots of evidence in the rubble, scattered unpredictably all over the site. Even a major government would have trouble securing and covering up, what, millions of tons of debris in the middle of a big city. Still, presumably they would have plenty of time to put a plan in place to take total control of the site, a control that would probably have raised few questions at the time. But that did not happen. If you read the accounts of what really happened at Ground Zero in the days and weeks after 9/11, the chaos and confusion and ad hoc organization bears no resemblance at all to what a hypothetical evil conspiracy would have arranged to cover up its crimes. I'm all for examining evidence, but this whole theory makes no sense to me at all. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 07:35:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HCYxee004550 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:35:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:35:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC6ABA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 8:24:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3478304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:24:58 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HCOwZg012204 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:24:58 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.78.55]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617122458.UVZE10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:24:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.78.55]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617122458.BHDT25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:24:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42B2C119.7090101@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:24:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I'm all for examining evidence, but this whole theory makes no sense > to me > at all. Ditto. I haven't looked at that url, but the idea that the attacks were planned by Bush et al struck me as absurd the first time I heard it. I'm sure he realizes how much 9/11 helped him politically, and there are probably moments when he (and especially Karl Rove) must feel almost jubilant about it in a strange, mixed-feelings sort of way. But planned it and perpetrated it? Ridiculous. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 10:09:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HF9See022984 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:09:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:09:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC7751@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:02:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3504198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:02:38 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HF2cxb011552 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:02:38 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112886227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:02:37 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080242.02784470@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:04:04 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Ancestors In-Reply-To: References: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What program, if any, are you using for your genealogy documentation. I know Doris Smith recommended one but I have forgotten. Lorinda and Kevin have gotten started on this. They seem possessed right now. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 10:09:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HF9See022983 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:09:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:09:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC76FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:59:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3503531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:59:27 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HExN3S010488; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:59:24 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112885331; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:59:23 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080025.027ac3a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:00:49 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <328649816.20050616214254@gailndan.com> References: <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> <20050615194151.GD95943@words-l.org> <1478156269.20050615142619@gailndan.com> <20050615203111.GC24038@words-l.org> <1131251516.20050615210029@gailndan.com> <20050616222537.GC57303@words-l.org> <328649816.20050616214254@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:42 PM 6/16/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >6/16/2005, 4:25 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> DMH> You didn't say "grasshopper"? Damn! > >> > >> Doubt I've said that word since I left Nebraska > >> in 76 > >DMH> It's come back BIG TIME. > >Well we're not up on all the latest stuff out here in Ideehohoho. That has been obvious from your posts. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 10:55:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HFspee027384 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:54:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:55:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068644E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:34:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:34:50 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HFYnI5019929 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:34:50 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23375410 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:35:08 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:35:16 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:34:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <441057336.20050617093448@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating In-Reply-To: <42B258FA.1080405@maynor.net> References: <42B258FA.1080405@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=82997, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU have you searched ebay and other auction sites? 6/16/2005, 11:00 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> http://www.musicstack.com/item/180597370/goulet,robert/summer+sounds NM> Why in these days when pretty much anything is out there in whatever NM> form one wants it in can I not find a CD of this mid-'60s album? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 10:55:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HFspee027385 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:54:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:55:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068637A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:36:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3510096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:36:49 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HFanml020315 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:36:49 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5HFanvP030702 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:36:49 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5HFafqF026103 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:36:42 -0400 Message-ID: <039e01c57352$5cba8f90$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Fw: Iraq vs. DC Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:36:41 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "wild, fred" > There have been an average of 160,000 troops in theater (IRAQ) during the > last 22 months, which has a firearm death rate of *60* per *100,000*. > > The rate in Washington D.C. is *80.6* per *100,000*. > > That means that you are 25% more likely to be shot and killed in our > Nation's > Capitol, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, > than you are in Iraq. > > *Conclusion*: We should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:26:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HGQOee031107 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:26:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:26:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC7C47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:26:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3515236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:26:24 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HGQNfS029065 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:26:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA009A887 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:26:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12365-09 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:26:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB8A9A370 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:26:21 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42B2F9B9.7060102@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:26:33 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: nomail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.531 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I do not think I can read the post during several days coming. Much work to be finished, a concert tomorrow together with rehearsals before it (male, female and mixed choirs' repertoire on a concert celebrating the 100th anniversary of an Estonian composer Eduard Tubin), then work again, and then already Midsummer Night/St. John's Day Eve will come... And then, after a week, a five days' trip to Åland. Maybe I'll check in some day, so you be moderately interesting! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:43:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HGhJee000050 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068669F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:33:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3515907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:33:19 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HGXI7b030344 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:33:18 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23381994 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:33:36 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:33:45 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:33:16 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <198758603.20050617103316@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: another "conspiracy"? In-Reply-To: References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=83031, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/17/2005, 5:49 AM, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: LK> I'm all for examining evidence, but this whole theory makes no sense to me LK> at all. Agree completely. Very nice and thorough analysis. So how do you read the Kennedy Assassination? Was it other than Oswald alone? Oswald for CIA, for Rich Texans, for Castro? Was there another gunman? Or more than two? Just curious. I've always been dubious of it being Oswald alone with that weapon, distance, lack of skills, trees, moving target, etc. However, I've also never seen anything else that I've found convincing. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:43:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HGhJee000052 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00686623@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:39:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:39:23 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HGdKhF031321 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:39:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23132643 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:02:34 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:39:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:39:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <6410463272.20050617103912@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ancestors In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080242.02784470@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080242.02784470@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 231, in=84155, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/17/2005, 9:04 AM, Betty Clark wrote: BC> What program, if any, are you using for your genealogy documentation. I BC> know Doris Smith recommended one but I have forgotten. Lorinda and Kevin BC> have gotten started on this. They seem possessed right now. All of us in our family use http://www.ftm2005.com/ Family Tree Maker, though are still a couple versions behind. My son has the master copy. It'll import and export all the standard ways (GEDCOM and others). The other one that is popular around here is the one from the LDS church, because it particularly well handles a bunch of the "special things" that only relate to them. However FTM does them too, just not as slickly. And since only one family member (one sister) is LDS, it isn't a big issue to us, and she uses FTM too. So from time to time we mix and match and merge our files, which is easy enough to do. My son Andy also puts it on the web.....the latest version (probably not updated in a year or so) is at http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/e/s/Andrew-R-Lester/ dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:43:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HGhJee000049 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006866A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:34:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3515972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:34:54 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HGYs7r030486 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:34:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22364613 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:15:40 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:35:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:34:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1696227990.20050617103452@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080025.027ac3a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> <20050615194151.GD95943@words-l.org> <1478156269.20050615142619@gailndan.com> <20050615203111.GC24038@words-l.org> <1131251516.20050615210029@gailndan.com> <20050616222537.GC57303@words-l.org> <328649816.20050616214254@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080025.027ac3a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=80790, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/17/2005, 9:00 AM, Betty Clark wrote: >> >> DMH> You didn't say "grasshopper"? Damn! >> >> >> >> Doubt I've said that word since I left Nebraska >> >> in 76 >> >>DMH> It's come back BIG TIME. >> >>Well we're not up on all the latest stuff out here in Ideehohoho. BC> That has been obvious from your posts. I understood the reference to grasshopper. Saw the show a couple times long ago. But in case it HAS come back big time, I've not heard it on our campus from anyone. Of course Tushie could be the only one bringing it back big time by himself. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:43:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HGhJee000051 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006866E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:41:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:41:53 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HGfq8V031880 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:41:52 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050617164151m92008hh06e>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:41:52 +0000 Message-ID: <00ea01c5735b$7d8259c0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B00A91.1010103@maynor.net> <00df01c571d3$c6ac5cb0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B0D30E.6060706@maynor.net> <007101c57286$6dcf8d70$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B1A3DD.9010106@maynor.net> <00d501c572d2$81bfdaa0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B24779.7080207@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:42:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: Let's keep it simple. The first place I lived in was Decatur, so the heck with what the birth certificate says, let's just say Decatur and be dome with it. :-) Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day > David Guy Fetzer wrote: > >> Natalie: >> >> Yes it is. But it truly is closer to Decatur. > > I'm confused. Yes it is what? The mailing address is Emory University, > GA? Or it's in Atlanta? If the latter, how can it be closer to > Decatur -- as in how can something that's inside a city be closer to a > different city? (I understand how it can be closer to Decatur than to > downtown Atlanta, of course, but not how it can be closer to Decatur > than to Atlanta if it's in Atlanta.) > > Top posting drives me crazy. I guess I'll just leave all the earlier > stuff dangling below. > >> Cheers, >> >> Dave >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Natalie Maynor" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:07 AM >> Subject: Re: Nut job of the day >> >> >>> David Guy Fetzer wrote: >>> >>>> My nativity (as you put it) was just outside Atlanta in Emory >>>> University, >>> >>> >>> I thought Emory was within Atlanta. Is its mailing address Emory >>> University, GA? >>> >>> -- >>> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >>> >> >> > > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:43:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HGhKee000059 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC7D23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:43:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:43:20 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HGhJAR032102 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:43:20 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23317997 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:53:12 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:43:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:43:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1294418877.20050617104318@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 231, in=96920, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is from family of a colleague. His daughter and son in law are doing "good works" in The Gambia, something with health care and education, don't know what agency. They are former Peace Corps in Morocco. Anyway, since we've talked about ambassadorial appointments in the past, both real and potential, thought the comments toward the end might be of particular interest. dan This is a forwarded message ===8<==============Original message text=============== Hi All, Last night was my first formal event in The Gambia -- a town hall meeting sponsored by the US embassy. So, it was time for me to dress up by showering (only meaningful for a few seconds immediately following the shower), putting on my least dirt and sweat stained button-up shirt, washing my feet, re-applying my sandals, and looking hopelessly at my filthy pants. Then for 50d, the five of us took a taxi to the event, to be held at the ambassador's green, spacious, ocean-side house. The roughly hundred guests sat outside under a canopy, drank soda or water and listened to the ambassador, his security chief and a coordinator ramble for more than an hour. Audience questions were sparse. At the end, while the crowd milled around, Adam and I moved to meet the ambassador at ask a few questions. Two of the questions I asked: why did he choose The Gambia and did he speak Woolf or Mandinka or any of the other local languages. The response to the later was, "No, but I would love to learn Woolf or Mandingo." Did I mispronounce Mandinka, as Mandingo? Did the ambassador? The answer to the former question was puzzling to me. He didn't choose the Gambia it was just offered to him. He had no special interest in The Gambia and no special training in Gambian culture or politics. Leah confirms this is common; there are aspects of politics I just don't understand. In the end, I decided the ambassador received this post because he was the only one willing to wear a full, dark suit and neck tie in this intense blanket of heat and humidity. Love, David ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Dan Lester dan@gailndan.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 11:49:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HGnRee000782 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:49:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:49:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068654D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:49:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:49:27 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HGnQ1e000392 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:49:26 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:49:26 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:48:59 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Ancestors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have a myfamiyl.com site and keep most of my family data there. One thing I have not found is a family tree program that doesn't automatically assume the gender of a spouse. I have written to Myfamily suggesting that "like it or not same-sex marriage is legal in some places you serve and there should be a way to include that information in a family tree" So far, no response. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 12:55:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HHtHee009122 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00686762@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:30:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:30:39 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HHUdoX006527 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:30:39 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 112938126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:30:37 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617103152.02783310@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:32:03 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Ancestors In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is that a free site? At 09:48 AM 6/17/2005, you wrote: >I have a myfamiyl.com site and keep most of my family data there. One >thing I have not found is a family tree program that doesn't >automatically assume the gender of a spouse. I have written to Myfamily >suggesting that "like it or not same-sex marriage is legal in some >places you serve and there should be a way to include that information >in a family tree" So far, no response. > >BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 12:55:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HHtHee009123 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068682E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:34:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:34:18 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HHYIAh006969 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:34:18 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:34:17 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:33:48 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Ancestors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU no $30/year BrP >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 6/17/2005 1:32:03 PM >>> Is that a free site? At 09:48 AM 6/17/2005, you wrote: >I have a myfamiyl.com site and keep most of my family data there. One >thing I have not found is a family tree program that doesn't >automatically assume the gender of a spouse. I have written to Myfamily >suggesting that "like it or not same-sex marriage is legal in some >places you serve and there should be a way to include that information >in a family tree" So far, no response. > >BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 12:55:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HHtHee009121 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068672C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:23:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:23:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HHNj3F005569 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:23:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so568027nzp for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr1462868nzd; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:23:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mN0cYzpsYdasImAHBMw0TmNbOp0MEYWsEPuqGEJdoQCSKy7EqPxYG/PuDI8UGPqErlpWbveENfRFoCLNlOE4Omx3yRElZSRfNtakh3C6IfNL5cVOUWP9LgOFokm1NS2+obNLvTj3B70EKhLjBm5dW5OaDeWPH8x7YWwIclU+7bY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:23:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5HHNj3F005570 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When did it become The Gambia instead of Gambia? On 6/17/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:43:18 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > > >Two of the questions I asked: why did he choose The Gambia and did he > >speak Woolf or Mandinka or any of the other local languages. The > >response to the later was, "No, but I would love to learn Woolf or > >Mandingo." Did I mispronounce Mandinka, as Mandingo? Did the > >ambassador? The answer to the former question was puzzling to me. > > Interesting! > > The ambassador did! > > I worked with a TA for a couple of years from The Gambia (who is now > teaching ESL near Memphis ...). I remember him telling me that Mandinka was > more formal and Woolf was often spoken in less formal situations ... > > He's now married to an American and they are expecting their first child. He > recently told me his sister will be coming over from The Gambia to help with > the baby ... and give him/her exposure to Mandinka. > > Amy > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 12:55:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HHtHee009117 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068661E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:22:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:22:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HHMv1a005324 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:22:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so628716nzk for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.42.18 with SMTP id p18mr1449415nzp; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:22:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NoJw1xrXBgYsq5UBZ5V8SNKhO8aoxjs/ddf/nkQY9UKl5UFhuwWef8e+AbfGFk2efY+Cdgj3iPDhLol+xlAMpU8X92266QeYy0Wvj94grWmgrt5Eyg/WjpnvVzdY1e3qKEXjf529cclDqzrCtHtLq9lv70EdqY2I9dq5bUSvoVo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061710223a74daa0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:22:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: <1294418877.20050617104318@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1294418877.20050617104318@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5HHMv1a005326 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Woolf? I've always seen it Wolof. On 6/17/05, Dan Lester wrote: > This is from family of a colleague. His daughter and son in law are > doing "good works" in The Gambia, something with health care and > education, don't know what agency. They are former Peace Corps in > Morocco. Anyway, since we've talked about ambassadorial appointments > in the past, both real and potential, thought the comments toward the > end might be of particular interest. > > dan > > > This is a forwarded message > ===8<==============Original message text=============== > Hi All, > > Last night was my first formal event in The Gambia -- a town hall > meeting sponsored by the US embassy. So, it was time for me to dress > up by showering (only meaningful for a few seconds immediately > following the shower), putting on my least dirt and sweat stained > button-up shirt, washing my feet, re-applying my sandals, and looking > hopelessly at my filthy pants. Then for 50d, the five of us took a > taxi to the event, to be held at the ambassador's green, spacious, > ocean-side house. > > The roughly hundred guests sat outside under a canopy, drank soda or > water and listened to the ambassador, his security chief and a > coordinator ramble for more than an hour. Audience questions were > sparse. At the end, while the crowd milled around, Adam and I moved > to meet the ambassador at ask a few questions. > > Two of the questions I asked: why did he choose The Gambia and did he > speak Woolf or Mandinka or any of the other local languages. The > response to the later was, "No, but I would love to learn Woolf or > Mandingo." Did I mispronounce Mandinka, as Mandingo? Did the > ambassador? The answer to the former question was puzzling to me. He > didn't choose the Gambia it was just offered to him. He had no > special interest in The Gambia and no special training in Gambian > culture or politics. Leah confirms this is common; there are aspects > of politics I just don't understand. In the end, I decided the > ambassador received this post because he was the only one willing to > wear a full, dark suit and neck tie in this intense blanket of heat > and humidity. > > Love, > David > > ===8<===========End of original message text=========== > > -- > Dan Lester dan@gailndan.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 12:55:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HHtHee009115 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00686671@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:10 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HGt8Le001313 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:09 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC7D6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:55:08 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:43:18 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >Two of the questions I asked: why did he choose The Gambia and did he >speak Woolf or Mandinka or any of the other local languages. The >response to the later was, "No, but I would love to learn Woolf or >Mandingo." Did I mispronounce Mandinka, as Mandingo? Did the >ambassador? The answer to the former question was puzzling to me. Interesting! The ambassador did! I worked with a TA for a couple of years from The Gambia (who is now teaching ESL near Memphis ...). I remember him telling me that Mandinka was more formal and Woolf was often spoken in less formal situations ... He's now married to an American and they are expecting their first child. He recently told me his sister will be coming over from The Gambia to help with the baby ... and give him/her exposure to Mandinka. 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Click here for http://www2.myteenky.info/ cool photos and video clips and dvd movies -------------- cromwell algebra combination demography antony cryptanalysis appearance blockage bequest confute bathtub cpa cortical buxton camber combustion bela caravan blowback defeat backlash arcadia blasphemy dewy chauncey bluebush abernathy deregulate deborah cognate argonne ardent bialystok comply From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 13:25:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HIPnee012614 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:25:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:25:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00686A21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:25:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:25:49 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HIPkdq015077 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:25:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23392768 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:26:04 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:26:13 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:25:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <538579960.20050617122544@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 229, in=83102, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU AFAIK it has ALWAYS been The Gambia. But could be wrong, of course. Know that these days the latter is the only correct way. 6/17/2005, 11:23 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> When did it become The Gambia instead of Gambia? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 13:31:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HIVree013372 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:31:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:31:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00686ABA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:31:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3529171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:31:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HIVqM1015838 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:31:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so749176nzp for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.35 with SMTP id w35mr1508668nzg; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:31:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oKRJxffATyQWu5nrYUrEozjK1MWQNhQNYMRMD9vgG+fvhYPGjPGH8CPimJOFh8yBzOD2cERk/gpFvG5QDIpcTmrOSNkQe3Uau4MCxHqLl1xTIXBpORZeXC9ahgV8T6w+VJR58/SZO0GB8Y2s8UPE+Xf8lzZVQmLD8EnwsHhoR8Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061711315426dfd7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:31:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: <538579960.20050617122544@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> <538579960.20050617122544@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5HIVqM1015839 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/17/05, Dan Lester wrote: > AFAIK it has ALWAYS been The Gambia. > > But could be wrong, of course. I'm pretty sure you are, based on the locutions of Gambians I have known... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 13:42:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HIgree014467 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:42:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:42:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC83ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:42:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3531175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:42:52 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HIgnh4017621 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:42:49 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC83EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:42:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200506171842.j5HIgnh4017621@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:42:49 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Being formal in The Gambia To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:22:56 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >Woolf? I've always seen it Wolof. Karen is right. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 13:43:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HIhTee014509 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:43:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:43:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00686C67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:43:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3531476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:43:28 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HIhRUc017749 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:43:27 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so342187rnf for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.4 with SMTP id n4mr1199818rna; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WxzNYCdE7+TtWojDeylfBqJhVBLGiCeiRk5ayd6ho2epOWQ4mYNjeB9VUiBQuaoM3tGj96u1UrAiTVGJZQA7mEs8XQ+9dQE6oartFFgzpUvhp1EH7J5AHrJdOlHVdQPKE6+GxhSs857VteVv7rkjkbsshWpypJtCmMKSJVBiUVA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:43:27 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5HIhRUc017750 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/17/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > When did it become The Gambia instead of Gambia? I think it's "always" been The Gambia. My cousin the epidemiologist worked there for some years and she always called it that. If anything I think there's a modern move away from those "The" names, e.g. The Ukraine, The Yukon are now regarded as somewhere between obsolete and politically incorrect. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 14:04:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HJ3oee017145 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:03:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:04:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00686C17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:03:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3535125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:03:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HJ3jrk021282 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:03:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so765844nzp for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.10 with SMTP id a10mr1509133nzd; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:03:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IvZZYeZU6IpzR0K1DL8TgNT6PNoD2MuqWIFaNWX54/bl+5Kx+d1Wd+QyLv4LUvdex5IdP9ISeavzkKBRn/8YnUDJ78MG35tFJYNzW1OL6ldFAQxr0aNuNwl9Krcdj0zRTSALchVJPWD3AQm6J6q4vaP7+t66lFGXpPXR/zETAJk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506171203f1dc6c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:03:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5HJ3krk021284 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Congo's gone back and forth so many times I've lost count. On 6/17/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 6/17/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > When did it become The Gambia instead of Gambia? > > I think it's "always" been The Gambia. My cousin the epidemiologist > worked there for some years and she always called it that. If anything > I think there's a modern move away from those "The" names, e.g. The > Ukraine, The Yukon are now regarded as somewhere between obsolete and > politically incorrect. > > Tony H. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 14:14:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HJENee018147 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:14:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:14:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00686D2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:04:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3535222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:04:22 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5HJ4LcX021382 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:04:22 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061721023812349 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:02:38 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:04:19 +0200 Message-ID: <42B31EB1.4010208@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:04:17 -0700 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2005 19:04:20.0246 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DD0DB60:01C5736F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc skrev 17.06.2005 11:43: >On 6/17/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>When did it become The Gambia instead of Gambia? >> >> > >I think it's "always" been The Gambia. My cousin the epidemiologist >worked there for some years and she always called it that. If anything >I think there's a modern move away from those "The" names, e.g. The >Ukraine, The Yukon are now regarded as somewhere between obsolete and >politically incorrect. > > > And how do you feel about the Northwest territories? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 14:25:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HJPKee019294 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:25:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:25:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00686D74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:25:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3538475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:25:20 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HJPJwo024619 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:25:20 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so1230657wri for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.39.1 with SMTP id m1mr1282536wrm; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:25:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QUq7FpbwKfIWSVTzptQ2Iaxh6epPqHzIc1zNL4vJIaYcxYojlDzusyrZVmAnSMClIwjfbYGirE1FXzF/D131Rrz62UaSGjfw6iIWF7js/msbBVeavmWpXnDJ6aS3kPmZS0O44EqLygGZUM20SLBOckQBAo1LMWmkAOm1jU1qrQo= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:25:19 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures In-Reply-To: <42B16983.4000709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> <42B16983.4000709@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5HJPKee019294 > > that people today, like people a thousand years ago, don't > necessarily all have the same and that there are today, just > like a thousand years ago, and deeds and thoughts, with > some people doing more than and others doing more > than . -- Natalie > And not the least of the problem is that people feel they have to put good and bad in quotes as if it was all relative. A pox on you. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 14:29:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HJTfee019621 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:29:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:29:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00686F56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:29:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3538898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:29:41 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HJTeKJ025352 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:29:40 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-160-245.gwi.net [216.195.160.245]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5HJTaBh063588; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:29:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050617151324.01c00768@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:13:58 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Do you ever say... In-Reply-To: <20050616170457.3279@smtp.asu.edu> References: <83db447a0506151858288bc221@mail.gmail.com> <20050616170457.3279@smtp.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:04 PM 6/16/2005, Hank Harken wrote: > >> In answer to the earlier question, Hank is clearly not just another > >> Richard persona! > > > ...for which, may we all be grateful. > >Is that almost a compliment ? Yes, if this is almost an answer. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 14:35:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HJZiee020073 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:35:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:35:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC8881@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:35:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3540202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:35:43 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HJZN3N026290 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:35:23 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so348693rnf for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.69 with SMTP id l69mr232594rnb; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:35:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E1Cs1GxTDo4ZOMF4HYsHfhwbIe1uidSeVcWxJgnQgH706f9m2WOOrbXMMebDoW9VFON+/ZY3BMAPE5GQOOo3QNhDfks5kBWiNC7roDEQCrsNEEUeB2i8ZwlcX6l+yg1Ioo4o1hSSHR5sajWSUryZVq4vUW0x230RA0RWvthe4I4= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:35:23 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: <42B31EB1.4010208@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> <42B31EB1.4010208@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5HJZN3N026291 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/17/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > Tony Harminc skrev 17.06.2005 11:43: > > >On 6/17/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > >>When did it become The Gambia instead of Gambia? > >> > >> > > > >I think it's "always" been The Gambia. My cousin the epidemiologist > >worked there for some years and she always called it that. If anything > >I think there's a modern move away from those "The" names, e.g. The > >Ukraine, The Yukon are now regarded as somewhere between obsolete and > >politically incorrect. > > > > > > > And how do you feel about the Northwest territories? I don't often feel much about the NWT... No one seems to want to remove the "The" from it/them, perhaps because the "territories" is part of the name, and perhaps because it's plural. But certainly just plain "Yukon" has taken over from the formerly universal "The Yukon" in the last few years. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:08:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HK7qee023169 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:07:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:08:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006870D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:07:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3543105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:07:51 -0400 Received: from web51310.mail.yahoo.com (web51310.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.176]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5HJvpMe029969 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:57:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 57574 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jun 2005 19:57:51 -0000 Received: from [66.82.9.31] by web51310.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:57:50 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RGaQ56sKyuv44P6Q+CdgNOR9ajIhXN3Ay7pd4WFCgewyaRsDg4JrS14nJVoGpoNdRxfZKDHp5XSkOdJmWZs+OPqXM6VpaAAyx/ihxxJl9+/RDsCmtUvmVhL7wRNSSMsjeWby2yhJUP+dn9jegjxnto6LbipO+magpVusp313xSY= ; Message-ID: <20050617195751.57572.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:57:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doris Smith Reply-To: dormarbil@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Ancestors To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080242.02784470@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hello Betty! I have used Family Tree Maker for years and it is good. HOWEVER, I've also discovered that I like Legacy and Roots Magic. They are similar to FTM, but RM has some features that I like better than those in FTM and Legacy - mainly the ability to design your own charts. You can go the the web pages of each of the programs and I believe there is a lighter form of Roots Magic that is a free download. How have you been? Lurking, Doris S Betty Clark wrote: What program, if any, are you using for your genealogy documentation. I know Doris Smith recommended one but I have forgotten. Lorinda and Kevin have gotten started on this. They seem possessed right now. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:13:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HKDAee023697 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:13:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:13:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068704E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:13:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3544985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:13:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKD9gx032022 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:13:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so643601nzp for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.11 with SMTP id a11mr1522828nzc; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:13:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QYFMz+7EmSP1tGsDGKne9GiDdQALURRLljxJAYe0wMYhpJ8cnU+qw5nRGNp/CaLD/7LA8GpFm73cN8o8Il9m+JgeEXFVPzXKOsoAfC4RwFdAuhdUvus3D9rd+kfr0YuXUqxFdU7lAKsqWjeTa/0luVuVEsIj997LPg5vpr5vRf4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506171313258e94dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:13:08 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ancestors In-Reply-To: <20050617195751.57572.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080242.02784470@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050617195751.57572.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5HKD9gx032031 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU YaY, Doris! How are you? What's new? Betty is retired now. Karen On 6/17/05, Doris Smith wrote: > Hello Betty! > > I have used Family Tree Maker for years and it is good. HOWEVER, I've also discovered that I like Legacy and Roots Magic. They are similar to FTM, but RM has some features that I like better than those in FTM and Legacy - mainly the ability to design your own charts. You can go the the web pages of each of the programs and I believe there is a lighter form of Roots Magic that is a free download. > > How have you been? > > Lurking, > Doris S > > Betty Clark wrote: > What program, if any, are you using for your genealogy documentation. I > know Doris Smith recommended one but I have forgotten. Lorinda and Kevin > have gotten started on this. They seem possessed right now. > > Betty > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:17:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HKHZee024190 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:17:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:17:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC8B32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:17:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3545445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:17:34 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKHXHx032632 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:17:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so1294766wra for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.11 with SMTP id 11mr1311974wrc; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:17:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Q5JBpaMLATfp6hROIRj9mlc7MecShJtgGd2dGTNVMaKLlb9l/yNpUBVEnRRGOzf/WjXl4iKmijUX31tqdp+AmuCN8RK4iWWam4X8qbS3DL7uxQySwUFQS8QaGAkaHvKAX6QM+SLrs0Pkqt8gnrPLmj8co6dfHOt5AGpkV6EZVN8= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:17:33 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5HKHZee024190 > > >>Karen will declare this a passive-aggressive statement, but I disagree > >>that it would *necessarily* be better expressed directly. > > >It's not a passive-aggressive statement, but it does express your love > >of the p-a. > > Do the other interpretations/discussions of the sentences also express > love of the p-a., whatever that means, or just mine? If the latter, how > are my statements different from the others? Does all discussion of > language indicate a ? -- Natalie > Your passive aggressive tendencies are made known by you having to introduce a topic with "Karen will declare" instead of just stating your opinion. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:20:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HKKKee024387 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:20:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:20:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00687196@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:20:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3545703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:20:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKK3Ia000527 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:20:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so1295967wra for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.103.11 with SMTP id a11mr1311450wrc; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:20:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CW9Dy3XINE0NTCfSYTcpk8l7cC4upffJDuUGqvGRInvtwrj9KByw3bzRauox73FqG3g9hSsHjBkSFV47WKOt9dzDF/ZahO3MdNetIZVfKfCn2fH04poCXmRbhMCnnM1G27pfvWLoRq1eUNqIglwyp8sf/riIkNg1l5S0e69gaS4= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:20:02 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing In-Reply-To: <42B1D1F7.1080700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> <20050616191651.GA4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B1D19A.3030600@maynor.net> <42B1D1F7.1080700@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5HKKKee024387 > > PS: And I have concluded that I am about pictures the way I am about > wine -- I am not a snob and don't want to become one. I'm content with > small pictures and cheap wine. -- Natalie > Then why did you spend $400+ on a camera? -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:22:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HKM1ee024528 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:22:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:22:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00687265@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:22:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3546005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:22:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKM04B000842 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:22:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1225154wri for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.116.2 with SMTP id o2mr1458922wrc; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:22:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hYUP2JLGDLa+xOyu38yBevLmGc3bUOh8XTYGaQMiv2f1lW0sm0lXuJEx/IhXHQsW6r3uHjpCJiPh/Bl8hIbvlvmoBAyGu1UGjgsXhtEjpGAeQb44H7oQGrEXoSpIcBZewt4gUGcEdmg3zH50QFvQH7u300mVc9MjgItTDy8rq08= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:22:00 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: was Re: Brad Pictures, now FEST In-Reply-To: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5HKM1ee024528 Clo, most if not all of your links don't work on that page. Marie On 6/15/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:59:59 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander > wrote: > > >On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:12:13 -0700, Betty Clark > wrote: > > > >>I'm off enjoying my bike again and then going for a walk. I received a > >>catalog for the Lake George Area yesterday. Larry's folks picked us up > the > >>AAA book and I found Frommer's Guide Book to New York State. Time to > start > >>planning. This is a vacation for us as well as list event. > >> > >YES! > >I finally got the webpage out of SocialText limbo... not that anyone > >who's coming hasn't seen all this, but - I feel better now that I can > >check it off my list. > > > >clo > > Oh, . > the URL disappeared. I'll try again: > > web.syr.edu/~clostran/Fest.htm > > > clo > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:25:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HKP9ee024853 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:25:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:25:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00687274@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:25:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3546183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:25:08 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKP752001357 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:25:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23339073 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:35:02 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:25:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:25:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <618923310.20050617142506@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061711315426dfd7@mail.gmail.com> References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> <538579960.20050617122544@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061711315426dfd7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 232, in=97041, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/17/2005, 12:31 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> AFAIK it has ALWAYS been The Gambia. >> >> But could be wrong, of course. AFoA> I'm pretty sure you are, based on the locutions of Gambians I have known... As I'm outta here shortly, I'll leave the research on the answer to that question to you. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:27:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HKRFee024997 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:27:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:27:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006871DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:27:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3546420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:27:15 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKRE21001691 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:27:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23155662 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:50:31 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:27:38 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:27:09 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1535335941.20050617142709@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> <42B31EB1.4010208@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 231, in=84307, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/17/2005, 1:35 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: TH> I don't often feel much about the NWT... No one seems to want to TH> remove the "The" from it/them, perhaps because the "territories" is TH> part of the name, and perhaps because it's plural. But certainly just TH> plain "Yukon" has taken over from the formerly universal "The Yukon" TH> in the last few years. And haven't NWT been split into two different ones in recent years? Or are those more like smaller subdivisions, like counties in states. Or is NWT just used collectively for them, like "rocky mountain states" or whatever. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:33:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HKXMee025460 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:33:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:33:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00687200@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:33:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3547372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:33:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKXLPw002913 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:33:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so531077nzp for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.17.14 with SMTP id 14mr1652464nzq; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:33:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=raK0bCpymfQTJbK7L4oXXGjQvmeKBNx1jKoO6uvhFheCtgS5E8dSXCZuhRAWNN3uSo3J08A5G7oLvLzH/pW26e+d1LH7HPshKC8tN5SUw9S21+orlDkIoNuSMkaTefiWNKnCwzBpMz9G+uJnmwCKHDMyTwig2AsC6ZUmDGjjXxA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:33:20 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Cousin Vinny's Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5HKXLPw002915 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU is the name of the pizza place in Baldwin County. http://guidos-vinnys.com/ Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:34:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HKYeee025519 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:34:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:34:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006872BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:34:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3547502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:34:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKYdjk003100 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:34:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1241095nzo for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr1417314nzc; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:34:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lUTloVq6K/xbzS8EUl6pxjak64wsFmiEtwZPfTZVZhef9TJ/4jQY2IkuXV8dPPL0ozQAQNjPiGL/POdFQ9SwLZaINyeESFrPKBEXtBrBlvcMjvSmKF81tfvgqxZPBG6R1J4i8Tzmq6DbBys8wJj5uKEKcmxiCXD/onXkjaXx2TM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061713346bb05f27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:34:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5HKYdjk003102 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/17/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > >>Karen will declare this a passive-aggressive statement, but I disagree > > >>that it would *necessarily* be better expressed directly. > > > > >It's not a passive-aggressive statement, but it does express your love > > >of the p-a. > > > > Do the other interpretations/discussions of the sentences also express > > love of the p-a., whatever that means, or just mine? If the latter, how > > are my statements different from the others? Does all discussion of > > language indicate a ? -- Natalie > > > Your passive aggressive tendencies are made known by you having to > introduce a topic with "Karen will declare" instead of just stating your > opinion. Whew. Thank you, Bonnie. I thought maybe I was imagining it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:06:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HL64ee029317 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:06:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:06:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FC8E11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:56:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3548949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:56:22 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKkLiI004489 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:46:21 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5HKjuRb011712 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:45:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:46:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: weekend! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Finally - TGIF! Tonight "Crash." In the morning, the zoo. There are two tv sets on my floor, but neither has controls that work! So - no CWS - do we have a score yet? (Natalie, when does my toadfrog arrive?) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:06:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HL64ee029316 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:06:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:06:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC8DA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:56:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3550078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:56:00 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKtobv005617 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:55:50 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617205550.XKSS22685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:55:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617205550.LOFA1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:55:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42B338D5.3070202@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:55:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: <42B258FA.1080405@maynor.net> <441057336.20050617093448@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <441057336.20050617093448@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >have you searched ebay and other auction sites? > > No. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:06:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HL6Cee029327 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:06:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:06:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC8ED8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:06:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3552506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:06:11 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HL6BEM007812 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:06:11 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617210611.XZET22685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:06:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617210610.LTHP1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:06:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42B33B41.5000504@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:06:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> <538579960.20050617122544@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <538579960.20050617122544@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >AFAIK it has ALWAYS been The Gambia. > > It's certainly not unusual to hear it called Gambia. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:15:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HLFUee030432 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:15:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:15:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068740A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:05:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3552403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:05:29 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HL5TIi007698 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:05:29 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617210529.XYIQ22685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:05:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617210528.LSYV1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:05:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42B33B17.80708@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:05:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ancestors References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >I have a myfamiyl.com site and keep most of my family data there. One >thing I have not found is a family tree program that doesn't >automatically assume the gender of a spouse. I have written to Myfamily >suggesting that "like it or not same-sex marriage is legal in some >places you serve and there should be a way to include that information >in a family tree" So far, no response. > > I've found various limitations (though I should add that I'm using a very old version of FTM). The only way I was able to get one of my ggg-grandfathers into my charts at all -- the one named in the bastardy bond I found in the archives in Raleigh -- was that he had married my ggg-grandmother's sister. Since she was in my charts, I was able to put him as her spouse, with footnotes about his impregnating his wife's sister. I also put such notes on my ggg-grandmother's page, of course -- and the page for her son, the bastard. There's sometimes a name problem also. Like if I wanted to show that Rachel Church's husband was Isham Dancy, her bastard son would automatically have the name Dancy -- which he didn't -- his name remained Church, his mother's maiden name. I think what I ended up doing was simply leaving Isham Dancy out of the charts, which meant also leaving out the children he and Rachel had -- my gg-grandfather's half siblings. I mentioned them in a footnote (iirc -- I haven't looked at those pages lately -- have been fooling with other branches). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:15:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HLFUee030431 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:15:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:15:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00687236@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:57:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3550481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:57:53 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKvrxt005958 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:57:53 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617205753.XNLZ22685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:57:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617205753.LPHB1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:57:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42B3394F.3040708@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:57:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nut job of the day References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B00A91.1010103@maynor.net> <00df01c571d3$c6ac5cb0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B0D30E.6060706@maynor.net> <007101c57286$6dcf8d70$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B1A3DD.9010106@maynor.net> <00d501c572d2$81bfdaa0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B24779.7080207@maynor.net> <00ea01c5735b$7d8259c0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> In-Reply-To: <00ea01c5735b$7d8259c0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU David Guy Fetzer wrote: > Natalie: > > Let's keep it simple. The first place I lived in was Decatur, so the heck > with what the birth certificate says, let's just say Decatur and be dome > with it. :-) Sounds good to me. I started to ask more questions but decided they were getting a bit nosy -- like whether you were born on the Emory campus because of the Emory Hospital or whether you were born somewhere like a dorm room. :-) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:15:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HLFUef030432 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:15:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:15:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006874DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:11:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3552731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:11:30 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HLBUKc008293 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:11:30 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617211130.YFMW22685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:11:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617211129.LVSZ1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:11:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42B33C80.7090201@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:11:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ancestors References: <20050617195751.57572.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050617195751.57572.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Smith wrote: >I have used Family Tree Maker for years and it is good. HOWEVER, I've also discovered that I like Legacy and Roots Magic. They are similar to FTM, but RM has > I'm happy that you've been lurking and even happier that you've delurked! The name Roots Magic rings bells with me of *maybe* being the program that somebody else once told me she had moved to from FamilyTreeMaker -- that she liked better than FTM. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:15:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HLFUee030426 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:15:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:15:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006873AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:55:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3549880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:55:24 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HKtOKw005537 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:55:24 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617205524.XKFU22685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:55:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617205523.LNYU1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:55:23 -0400 Message-ID: <42B338BA.5050506@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:55:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ancestors References: <200506160146.j5G1kSUa004323@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B0E518.6070304@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080242.02784470@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080242.02784470@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > What program, if any, are you using for your genealogy documentation. I > know Doris Smith recommended one but I have forgotten. Lorinda and Kevin > have gotten started on this. They seem possessed right now. That they're getting into it at a young age is great, imho. So many people do what I did -- discover the fun of genealogy after many people who could have provided helpful info are dead or senile. I use FamilyTreeMaker, but I can't speak with knowledge about what all is out there and which is best. I started out with FTM and have been too lazy to experiment with any other programs. Actually, I first started out just making my family trees on my website, but that quickly became cumbersome/limiting. I still keep skeletal info there (http://www.maynor.net/Genealogy/) but do the real compiling with FTM and have links from those basic webpages to the gedcoms (which I keep on Rootsweb's World Connect). The gedcoms include far, far more detail -- lateral branches, sources, etc. I hate it, btw, when people put charts online without sources. And I hate that some people just take somebody else's charts and incorporate them into their own, perpetuating errors. Looking at people's online charts can be helpful in that sometimes you find a pointer toward something useful that you can check out. But checking it out is much harder if the person didn't include a source. Some old-time genealogists lament the existence of the net with errors so easily transmitted. But errors have been floating around in the world of genealogy for years, including in the vaults in Salt Lake City. I think I told y'all before about ordering some stuff from there and finding that I was descended from Irish kings of AD 330, French nobility, the Earl of Warwick, and various other impressive people. This all may be true, of course. But the charts showing the lineage gave me pause -- like the woman who gave birth before she herself was born, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:16:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HLFUeg030432 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:15:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:16:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00687466@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:15:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3553287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:15:56 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HLFuJ9008817 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:15:56 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617211556.YLNL22685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:15:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617211555.LXYR1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:15:55 -0400 Message-ID: <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:15:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>>>Karen will declare this a passive-aggressive statement, but I disagree >>>>that it would *necessarily* be better expressed directly. >>>> >>>> >>>It's not a passive-aggressive statement, but it does express your love >>>of the p-a. >>> >>> >>Do the other interpretations/discussions of the sentences also express >>love of the p-a., whatever that means, or just mine? If the latter, how >>are my statements different from the others? Does all discussion of >>language indicate a ? -- Natalie >> >> > Your passive aggressive tendencies are made known by you having to >introduce a topic with "Karen will declare" instead of just stating your >opinion. > > But Karen wasn't mentioned at all in my posting that she called passive-aggressive. I was discussing the interpretations of Akio's sentences. I didn't save it and don't care enough to try to find it, but I was explaining why I saw something in a different way from the way Tony did. I remember now -- it was about whether saying "make myself understood" is accepting the blame for the communication problem while "make them understand me" is placing the blame on the listener. I said that I wasn't convinced that the choice between those two wordings necessarily made that distinction re blame. Karen called that passive-aggressive, which mystified me totally. That's why I asked if everybody's comments/discussions were passive-aggressive -- if it was something inherent in language discussion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:19:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HLJkee030910 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:19:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:19:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC8F54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:16:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3553414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:16:52 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HLGqVi008895 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:16:52 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617211652.YMXK22685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:16:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617211651.LYLI1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:16:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42B33DC2.3060205@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:16:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing References: <42B1CBBD.5070307@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506161210138f6c2b@mail.gmail.com> <20050616191651.GA4715@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B1D19A.3030600@maynor.net> <42B1D1F7.1080700@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>PS: And I have concluded that I am about pictures the way I am about >>wine -- I am not a snob and don't want to become one. I'm content with >>small pictures and cheap wine. -- Natalie >> >> >Then why did you spend $400+ on a camera? > > How else would I have found out my picture druthers? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:20:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HLJkee030908 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:19:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:19:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC8EEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:09:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3552639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:09:46 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HL9hii008115 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:09:43 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617210943.YDLO22685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:09:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617210943.LUYM1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:09:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42B33C16.4030005@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:09:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures References: <42AEFCA3.6080103@maynor.net> <42AF5D2B.7080904@maynor.net> <20050615050958.GA25110@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B00B08.1000005@maynor.net> <1771071895.20050615082011@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705061508031ffb8795@mail.gmail.com> <374316471.20050615093703@gailndan.com> <42B0BD42.5040203@maynor.net> <182314244.20050615211824@gailndan.com> <42B16983.4000709@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >>that people today, like people a thousand years ago, don't >>necessarily all have the same and that there are today, just >>like a thousand years ago, and deeds and thoughts, with >>some people doing more than and others doing more >>than . -- Natalie >> >> >And not the least of the problem is that people feel they have to put good >and bad in quotes as if it was all relative. A pox on you. > > I don't know that this makes it necessarily "relative," but there are differences of opinion on what constitutes good and bad in some cases. The reason I'm not sure that that makes it relative is that even though the definitions/examples might be relative to the definers/example-givers, it's more a matter of simply making guesses. (I don't think I said that very well.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:20:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HLJsee030937 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:19:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:20:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068756B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:19:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3554105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:19:32 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HLJVlx009257 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:19:32 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5HLJTir022802 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:19:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:19:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: another "conspiracy"? In-Reply-To: <198758603.20050617103316@gailndan.com> Message-ID: References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> <198758603.20050617103316@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, Dan Lester wrote: > Agree completely. Very nice and thorough analysis. Thank you. > So how do you read the Kennedy Assassination? Was it other than > Oswald alone? Oswald for CIA, for Rich Texans, for Castro? Was there > another gunman? Or more than two? For years I maintained a position of spiteful skepticism, based on the refusal of certain agencies to release their files on the assassination. Perhaps emblematic of my feelings was the passage in the novel "Replay", where the protagonist (having been put back in time through no fault of his own) is determined to prevent the assassination. He goes to Dallas, finds a typewriter shop with demos sitting out front, and types a letter from Oswald to JFK, concluding with the friendly warning that "I will murder you." He mails the letter; Oswald is arrested; and our hero returns in a leisurely way to his hometown, feeling pretty good about changing the course of history. Unfortunately, when he arrives, he is greeted by the news that the president has been shot in his motorcade in Dallas by a lone gunman named Nelson Saunders, who in turn is shot to death by Jack Ruby. I suppose history was not amenable to being messed with. But I also got pretty tired of the over-the-top claims of the conspiracy theorists who couldn't seem to get over it. Oliver Stone in particular. My account of the death of John F. Kennedy, which appears in his entry on my web site, went through a series of versions as I debated with many correspondents as to how definite it should be. The original was larded with equivocating weasel words, but I ended up with the following -- see http://politicalgraveyard.com/bio/kennedy5.html [Shot] by a sniper, Lee Harvey Oswald, while riding in a [motorcade], and died in Parkland [Hospital], Dallas, [Dallas County], Tex., [November 22, 1963]. Oswald was shot and killed two days later by Jack Ruby. For a while, I received a lot of email sneers about this, along the lines that "everybody knows" there was a second gunman, but nothing that changed my mind about it. I shared some of these letters with the Political Graveyard email list -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/political-graveyard/ -- (which has over 300 members, including current and past politicos, historians from Left to Right, librarians, etc.) and the points raised by the critics were totally rejected. Interesting to relate, the hubbub has died out. I don't think I have received any complaints about JFK's entry in at least a year. I still get plenty of email commenting on the site -- just not about that detail. > Just curious. I've always been dubious of it being Oswald alone with > that weapon, distance, lack of skills, trees, moving target, etc. > However, I've also never seen anything else that I've found > convincing. I'm pretty definite that Oswald did it. His reasons, or who was behind him, are probably still open to debate. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 16:23:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HLNNee031249 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:23:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:23:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00687514@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:23:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3554741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:23:23 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HLNH0x011824 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:23:17 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-162-23.gwi.net [216.195.162.23]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5HLNCwh074563; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:23:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050617172241.01bf7820@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:23:09 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: was Re: Brad Pictures, now FEST In-Reply-To: References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:22 PM 6/17/2005, Marieber Meeber wrote: >Clo, most if not all of your links don't work on that page. > Marie Be quiet and process the pictures. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 17:39:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HMdhee006469 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:39:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:39:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068777A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:39:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3559033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:39:43 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HMdgdZ019211 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:39:42 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617223942.DTYB16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:39:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617223942.BWCF4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:39:42 -0400 Message-ID: <42B3512C.7090503@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:39:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: another "conspiracy"? References: <136043695.20050614104346@gailndan.com> <198758603.20050617103316@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > Interesting to relate, the hubbub has died out. I don't think I have > received any complaints about JFK's entry in at least a year. I still > get > plenty of email commenting on the site -- just not about that detail. I can give you a picture of the bed he died in. :-) That assumes that my RRB (before he was R or R) really knew which bed it was. He took the picture several years after the event. Jack Ruby was a patient in Parkland when my RRB (pre RR) was interning there. He saw him as in laying eyes on him, but I don't remember that he saw him in the way doctors patients. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 17:50:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5HMojee008018 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:50:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:50:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FC9250@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:40:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3559066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:40:44 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5HMecpl019320 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:40:38 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617224038.DUVU16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:40:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050617224037.BWKB4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:40:37 -0400 Message-ID: <42B35164.1030706@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:40:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: weekend! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >(Natalie, when does my toadfrog arrive?) > > He has run away. I haven't laid eyes on him since I sent that posting about him. I worry that he knew I was saying tacky things about him, got his feelings hurt, and vanished into the darkness. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 19:16:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I0Gmee018886 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:16:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:16:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00687A15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:16:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3568751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:16:47 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5I0GkXO029857 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:16:46 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061802150312651 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:15:03 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:16:45 +0200 Message-ID: <42B367EB.8020809@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:16:43 -0700 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> <42B31EB1.4010208@gmail.com> <1535335941.20050617142709@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1535335941.20050617142709@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2005 00:16:45.0350 (UTC) FILETIME=[02C4BC60:01C5739B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester skrev 17.06.2005 13:27: >6/17/2005, 1:35 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: > >TH> I don't often feel much about the NWT... No one seems to want to >TH> remove the "The" from it/them, perhaps because the "territories" is >TH> part of the name, and perhaps because it's plural. But certainly just >TH> plain "Yukon" has taken over from the formerly universal "The Yukon" >TH> in the last few years. > >And haven't NWT been split into two different ones in recent years? >Or are those more like smaller subdivisions, like counties in states. >Or is NWT just used collectively for them, like "rocky mountain >states" or whatever. > > > When our plane to Calgaray was coming down from the cold north the pilot said that we had crossed from NWT to Saskechuan (sp?) before we would come into Alberta. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 20:30:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I1UQee026356 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:30:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:30:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00687E5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:30:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3575470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:30:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5I1KPbQ005520 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:20:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 17769 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Jun 2005 01:20:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:20:24 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Pictures Message-ID: <20050618012024.GA16176@words-l.org> References: <42AF8567.6080601@maynor.net> <887568412.20050614215608@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050615120634.01c117e8@pop.gwi.net> <1194426035.20050615103159@gailndan.com> <20050615194151.GD95943@words-l.org> <1478156269.20050615142619@gailndan.com> <20050615203111.GC24038@words-l.org> <1131251516.20050615210029@gailndan.com> <20050616222537.GC57303@words-l.org> <328649816.20050616214254@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <328649816.20050616214254@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 09:42:54PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/16/2005, 4:25 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> DMH> You didn't say "grasshopper"? Damn! > >> > >> Doubt I've said that word since I left Nebraska > >> in 76 > > DMH> It's come back BIG TIME. > > Well we're not up on all the latest stuff out here in Ideehohoho. But you are on Words-l fuckin' L ... you are all set ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 20:30:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I1Ugee026401 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:30:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:30:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00687D55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:30:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3575980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:30:42 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I1UfsQ007152 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:30:41 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.145.12]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050618013041.TOZM2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:30:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.145.12]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050618013041.MCVJ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:30:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42B37940.8060205@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:30:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: He's Back! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The little toadfrog (or his twin) is back. But instead of trying to come in when I opened the door, he's sitting with his face against the side of the house -- sort of like sitting in the corner except it's not a corner. I'm wondering if he's trying to show contrition. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 20:37:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I1b1ee027060 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:37:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:37:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00687F1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:37:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3575818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:37:01 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5I1R0D0006554 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:27:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 22321 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Jun 2005 01:27:00 -0000 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:27:00 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Torkel is awesome! Message-ID: <20050618012700.GB16176@words-l.org> References: <8865866a05061609332583c84e@mail.gmail.com> <20050616224512.GJ57303@words-l.org> <8865866a05061700202742963b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8865866a05061700202742963b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 09:20:01AM +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: > On 6/17/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 06:33:06PM +0200, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > > In December's catalog of the Scientific American book club, Torkel's > > > newly published G?del book was chosen to be an alternate selection. > > > > > > I'm married to a genius! > > > > Oh, it's come out then? > > > > AK Peters, right? > > > > Yes, it was recently published and by AK Peters. Whoa ... Lang's Origami Secrets! Thank you ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 20:47:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I1lpee028397 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:47:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:47:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00687F20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:37:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3575869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:37:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5I1RiEI006853 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:27:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 22568 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Jun 2005 01:27:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:27:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for michael Message-ID: <20050618012744.GC16176@words-l.org> References: <1145531705.20050614131708@gailndan.com> <42B07F2C.6060801@akad.ee> <6.0.1.1.2.20050615122248.027b2eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B081BD.5050706@akad.ee> <20050615195315.GA5769@words-l.org> <42B1AC68.5020201@akad.ee> <20050616224600.GK57303@words-l.org> <42B2A6D8.7040602@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B2A6D8.7040602@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 01:32:56PM +0300, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>>Well, surely you must have done SOMETHING wrong. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Hmm. [...] > >>What else could it be? ... Prolly... > >>Or perhaps [...] > >>What else? [...] > >>Maybe it all was just [...] > >> > >> > > > >Sorry, I am little distracted right now. > > > >Will get back to this later. > > > Never mind. Which you probably didn't anyway. First time I have actually seen "never mind" parsed ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 21:38:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I2ceee000780 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:38:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:38:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00687FA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:38:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3577833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:38:40 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I2cdbR014026 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:38:39 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050618023839m9100nglnte>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:38:39 +0000 Message-ID: <05a101c573ae$dce13e60$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <063d01c57149$ebc27c30$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42AF87CD.8070901@maynor.net> <004301c57163$6788d990$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B00A91.1010103@maynor.net> <00df01c571d3$c6ac5cb0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B0D30E.6060706@maynor.net> <007101c57286$6dcf8d70$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B1A3DD.9010106@maynor.net> <00d501c572d2$81bfdaa0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B24779.7080207@maynor.net> <00ea01c5735b$7d8259c0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42B3394F.3040708@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Nut job of the day Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:38:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: It was the hospital but I kinda like that dorm room idea ;-). Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: Re: Nut job of the day > David Guy Fetzer wrote: > >> Natalie: >> >> Let's keep it simple. The first place I lived in was Decatur, so the heck >> with what the birth certificate says, let's just say Decatur and be dome >> with it. :-) > > Sounds good to me. I started to ask more questions but decided they > were getting a bit nosy -- like whether you were born on the Emory > campus because of the Emory Hospital or whether you were born somewhere > like a dorm room. :-) > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 22:13:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I3Dmee005020 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:13:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:13:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FC9B98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:35:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3577786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:35:53 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I2ZqYV013815 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:35:52 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050618023552m9100nhasne>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:35:52 +0000 Message-ID: <053a01c573ae$79335c40$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Cousin Vinny's Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:36:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben: Thanks. Will check it out. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Ostrowsky" To: Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: Cousin Vinny's > is the name of the pizza place in Baldwin County. > > http://guidos-vinnys.com/ > > Ben > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 22:31:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I3V3ee007180 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:31:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:31:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068804B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:31:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:31:03 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I3V2sK020451 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:31:02 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70646256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:31:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617202654.02807ab0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:32:25 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Ancestors In-Reply-To: <20050617195751.57572.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080242.02784470@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050617195751.57572.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi, Doris!! I'm glad you're here. Do you want us to call you from New York this year on your birthday? Natalie, do you still have her number in your cell phone? Could you easily move your stuff from Family Tree Maker to Legacy and Roots Magic? I've been great. I'm a new grandmother and I've retired. What can be better than that? Nathaniel and his parents just left. Betty At 12:57 PM 6/17/2005, you wrote: >Hello Betty! > >I have used Family Tree Maker for years and it is good. HOWEVER, I've also >discovered that I like Legacy and Roots Magic. They are similar to FTM, >but RM has some features that I like better than those in FTM and Legacy - >mainly the ability to design your own charts. You can go the the web pages >of each of the programs and I believe there is a lighter form of Roots >Magic that is a free download. > >How have you been? > >Lurking, > Doris S > >Betty Clark wrote: >What program, if any, are you using for your genealogy documentation. I >know Doris Smith recommended one but I have forgotten. Lorinda and Kevin >have gotten started on this. They seem possessed right now. > >Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 22:53:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I3rZee009391 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:53:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:53:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00688223@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:45:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:45:17 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I3jGNv023577 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:45:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23183770 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:08:39 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:45:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:45:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1313395523.20050617214517@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ancestors In-Reply-To: <42B33B17.80708@maynor.net> References: <42B33B17.80708@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 231, in=84411, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/17/2005, 3:05 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I mentioned them NM> in a footnote (iirc NM> -- I haven't looked at those pages lately -- have NM> been fooling with NM> other branches). I'm betting spendng the 29 buckeroos on the new version of FTM would allow you to do those things. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 22:53:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I3rZee009389 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:53:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:53:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068816D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:43:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:43:35 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I3hYFn023274 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:43:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22416199 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:24:28 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:44:01 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:43:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1316202627.20050617214330@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Fwd: Being formal in The Gambia In-Reply-To: <42B367EB.8020809@gmail.com> References: <200506171655.j5HGt8Le001313@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705061710235e83f5aa@mail.gmail.com> <42B31EB1.4010208@gmail.com> <1535335941.20050617142709@gailndan.com> <42B367EB.8020809@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 227, in=81065, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/17/2005, 6:16 PM, Espen S. Ore wrote: ESO> Calgaray was coming down from the ESO> cold north the pilot ESO> said that we had crossed from NWT to Saskechuan ESO> (sp?) before we would Just fyi.... Calgary and Saskatchewan dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 23:24:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I4Onee013023 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:24:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:24:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCA04C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 0:24:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3586654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:24:47 -0400 Received: from web51306.mail.yahoo.com (web51306.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5I4OkXj028501 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:24:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 46462 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jun 2005 04:24:12 -0000 Received: from [66.82.9.65] by web51306.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:24:11 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mADaSGO24DofWnXSeuqzbypLqiLYlyCHom8BQWHiF7AQogZ0+KgVaBcyckf62dXsAL/11w6jG2QVZqv1G/9oSvU+ETXg8eBcN1tZNV/auqpO+ktpYsHNJxySrV8hC2LkcqC4XrVtdrgWRdz5CbR5Xky2lz/OUy+K5gPWenWEINI= ; Message-ID: <20050618042412.46447.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:24:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Doris Smith Reply-To: dormarbil@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Ancestors To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617202654.02807ab0@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi again Betty - Yes, moving stuff from Family Tree Maker to Legacy and to Roots Magic was not a problem at all. I just had to save the FTM stuff in a Gedcom (GED) file and import it into the new programs. (I also have The Master Genealogist, but don't use it anymore because its learning curve is too large.) Nothing in the world is better than being a grandmother and being retired! It's been great. As to the phone call on my birthday - they mean a lot to me, but I never know in advance if I'm going to be home on that day. So - if you don't mind speaking to the answering machine if I'm not here, go ahead. Thank you for your welcome, Betty, Karen, and Natalie. Karen, from the little bit I've picked up while lurking, I take it you're now employed by IBM. Good for you! Doris S Betty Clark wrote: Hi, Doris!! I'm glad you're here. Do you want us to call you from New York this year on your birthday? Natalie, do you still have her number in your cell phone? Could you easily move your stuff from Family Tree Maker to Legacy and Roots Magic? I've been great. I'm a new grandmother and I've retired. What can be better than that? Nathaniel and his parents just left. Betty At 12:57 PM 6/17/2005, you wrote: >Hello Betty! > >I have used Family Tree Maker for years and it is good. HOWEVER, I've also >discovered that I like Legacy and Roots Magic. They are similar to FTM, >but RM has some features that I like better than those in FTM and Legacy - >mainly the ability to design your own charts. You can go the the web pages >of each of the programs and I believe there is a lighter form of Roots >Magic that is a free download. > >How have you been? > >Lurking, > Doris S > >Betty Clark wrote: >What program, if any, are you using for your genealogy documentation. I >know Doris Smith recommended one but I have forgotten. Lorinda and Kevin >have gotten started on this. They seem possessed right now. > >Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 00:18:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I5I0ee020328 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:18:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:18:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCA0F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 1:18:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3588078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:18:00 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I5HxMK032415 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:17:59 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5I5HwBZ002613 for ; 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format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 1) passive-aggressive Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 00:26:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I5Poee021298 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:25:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:26:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006883D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 1:05:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3587738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:05:45 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I55hh0031732 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:05:44 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5I55fDG002397 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:05:41 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5I55cdb002392 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:05:40 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5I55bMD027290 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:05:37 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5I55b6B027285 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:05:37 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j5I55Zbq038470 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:05:37 +0900 Message-ID: <00f701c573c3$556d98b0$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Sentences Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:05:18 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter K. wrote: >> 3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. >> >> The grammar seems fine, but the definite article is non-idiomatic. (Or >> maybe I'm intuiting a subtle grammar rule; I don't have a lot of >> technical grammer knowledge.) Generic happy people don't need the >> article, and the sentence should be: >> >> Happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. and Natalie wrote: > I think the context is necessary to know whether "the" is > non-idiomatic. The context might be describing two sets of people in a > workplace, the happy ones and the unhappy ones. In that case "the" > would strike me as appropriate. > > -- > -- Natalie and Peter K. wrote: >>Another good catch; yes, I agree. >>Pete and I write: Yes, I agree, too. Thank you very much for an illuminating explanation as regards the articles (definite, indefinite and zero). Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 02:13:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I7DIee004462 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:13:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 02:13:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068835A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 3:03:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3591275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:03:18 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I73GN0007082 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:03:17 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5I73DMf004232 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:03:13 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5I73Cbh004227 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:03:13 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5I73CB3029122 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:03:12 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5I73Bam029117 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:03:11 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j5I734bq071506 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:03:10 +0900 Message-ID: <013801c573d3$bebae420$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> Subject: (not) travel well Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:02:47 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (not) travel well 1) Some wines do not travel well. I suppose this means "some wines go bad while transported." If so, how would you paraphrase 'not travel well' in the following paragraph? 2) Interpersonal understanding is hampered by the fact that culture doesn't always travel well, either in geographic or social space. What is considered ideal in one place often will be scorned in another. Even in the same place, ideas and actions that pass for legitimate at one point in time will almost inevitably eventually fall out of favor. (Robert L. Young: Understanding Misunderstandings, Page 100) Any comments will be welcome. Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:20:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I8Jsee013504 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:19:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:20:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006884FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 4:19:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3593045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:19:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I8Jrup012031 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:19:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so12074nzp for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.61.12 with SMTP id j12mr1910497nza; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:19:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WlfLGlBIfG4T0UqHQEkswGUWjfHTjC7jMhH8gpZKy88Obk7c80ODWAqyNAfvftGIzG05JzFOxWb4tkyEL9WtuOfCbk46b7yDCbdEh6VsLOx+TFrYw54VX0gQZOf9QNRqfqYyGIve9MzjKbzCY1Ria2vqL93Am9hUXYYKRTxd0xQ= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:19:52 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (not) travel well In-Reply-To: <013801c573d3$bebae420$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <013801c573d3$bebae420$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5I8Jrup012032 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I suppose this means "some wines go bad while > transported." If so, how would you paraphrase > 'not travel well' in the following paragraph? "is not universal". Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:30:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I8UNee015081 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:30:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:30:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006883F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 4:24:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3593074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:24:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I8OkFc012248 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:24:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so31651nzo for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.90.8 with SMTP id n8mr1797600nzb; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=d/y6LJ6jsbxlbJv6So5tg2biKw3+kOv3HjCKTcPY2bN3cVb4k643zKr8qIgSG9MTjJJJfHDXPuDVstFHUi/+5qdIZ2YpkyugFUmNLZgH1HrSMA6Ty1WrPff/AJkXrY1/rsrmi/Vnv3d6MLa/ba+SS6IvJMSyjRCBBTqDMbma5jM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061801246b5ee1e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:24:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ancestors In-Reply-To: <20050618042412.46447.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617202654.02807ab0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050618042412.46447.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5I8OkFc012249 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/17/05, Doris Smith wrote: > Karen, from the little bit I've picked up while lurking, I take it you're now employed by IBM. Good for you! Well, thanks. Except, I'm not employed by IBM, I'm contracting at IBM. Quite a different thing, believe me. So I'm still looking for work. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 03:30:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5I8UNee015080 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:30:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:30:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006883F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 4:20:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3593057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:20:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I8KLBo012065 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:20:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so20605nzk for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.9 with SMTP id q9mr1870498nzq; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 01:20:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MNnXsSHnEECq9wYubZ+Q+1waDq85W9hF9QS4nc71GG7s0EciARfWV8QQ17Aa+NoQ/PTL+qLbvQ/AOUCyfCfgDy28J17P7998wUyG8ftf3xVvsqm3k/heTCttCBucYG8sAaHTz0kLzBkFG0GNedW7cDLCw/UMa7K04XePSp8VGRQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061801203b084a21@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 03:20:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (1) In-Reply-To: <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5I8KMBo012066 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Only one gleaning?! We need to try harder.:) Here's a source that explains it fairly well: http://ici2.umn.edu/preschoolbehavior/tip_sheets/passagg.htm On 6/18/05, Tanaka Akio wrote: > 1) passive-aggressive > > Tanaka Akio > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 08:05:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ID4see024437 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:04:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:05:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCA527@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 9:04:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3464138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:04:54 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ID4ra1019592 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:04:54 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-9.gwi.net [216.195.163.9]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5ID4od2013378; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:04:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050618084327.01bdcb00@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:52:47 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: (not) travel well In-Reply-To: <013801c573d3$bebae420$6210210a@neccomputer> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <013801c573d3$bebae420$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:02 AM 6/18/2005, Tanaka Akio wrote: >(not) travel well > >... > >Any comments will be welcome. I agree with Ben. I would add that in Young's paragraph, "do not travel well" also conveys the idea of "does not survive translation or transferrence well" -- which would mesh with the idea in your 1). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 08:05:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ID5oee024600 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:05:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:05:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCA569@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 9:05:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3463784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:05:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ICtolX019037 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:55:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so47216nzp for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 05:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.24.15 with SMTP id 15mr2049877nzx; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 05:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?172.20.100.38? ([65.240.80.83]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 15sm3500419nzn.2005.06.18.05.55.49; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 05:55:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:reply-to:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=l08Chqjl1YLKWF/BTLebLPjxYWTiErJG+Qmwivl4/Bk7FW8lWSu7vz+VlRq52B2mm3ErU0ney+dpjGnDZ1EOiJv6IAfLciAo4FNMkE/IxGEQFWixkJ1P4SF5/fA3SJR9GvVV+v8aNr4F/fRYbqhxQdtd6m/rInI0s04064tUdx4= Message-ID: <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:56:52 -0500 Reply-To: mysterian@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (1) References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Anne Toal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio wrote: > 1) passive-aggressive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive http://www.google.com/search?biw=995&hl=en&q=passive-aggressive BTW, answering a post with a three URLs intended to show how trivially easy it would have been for the questioner to look the answer up for himself is a very good example of passive-aggressive behavior. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 09:57:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IEusee005885 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:56:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:57:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCA658@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:56:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3466586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:56:53 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IEurgS025925 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:56:53 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F268CB1D180 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:56:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Credit Cards Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:56:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5IEusee005885 Concerned because of the story today that 40 million credit cards (Visa and Master Card) may be at risk after an intrusion of systems at Card Services, I called Visa Card Services. Got through to a real live person, a very nice lady, who told me they are watching accounts closely and not recommending our getting new numbers at this time. She assured me that I would have no liability if someone else used my card number. I'm wondering now, though, if that's all I need to think about. Did they get any numbers besides the credit card number . . and could this lead to identity theft . . etc. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:04:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IF4Pee007020 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:04:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:04:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCA6C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:04:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3466819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:04:25 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IF4Ox8026479 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:04:24 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-9.gwi.net [216.195.163.9]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5IF4Ipm021526; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:04:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050618110154.01c05cb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:04:14 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Credit Cards In-Reply-To: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:56 AM 6/18/2005, Doris Markland wrote: >I'm wondering now, though, if that's all I need >to think about. Did they get any numbers besides >the credit card number . . and could this lead to >identity theft . . etc. The article that I read this morning said that no SSNs or other identification was involved---the threat was about $$, not identity theft. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:40:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IFeNee010583 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:40:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:40:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCA6F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:40:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3467829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:40:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IFeMiJ028631 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:40:23 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so100332wra for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.2.42 with SMTP id 42mr1676490wrb; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:40:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FxDJ5fIT23pH++0AtpSEj/SpWMtsdnuz3Ru4EAlCNck0//OxAzB8DTEW0swJvjf9WWuzeFq0wVNbP/VC3T4gpQ88CUjeX04YlTyF18L5PcxaLZlKMZIq14yFmsyNBsvE3O31CEiv+7a5+Dmdm2B5eDyX0z/c1vCx7WNOnaQ+HFQ= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:40:22 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Credit Cards In-Reply-To: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5IFeNee010583 > > I'm wondering now, though, if that's all I need > to think about. Did they get any numbers besides > the credit card number . . and could this lead to > identity theft . . etc. - D. M. Speaking of security, there was an article in the local newspaper how the manager of our internet cafe stood on a corner in the village of Bar Harbor with his PDA and detected eleven wi-fi networks. Only two were encrypted. Not only could you park on that corner with your laptop and get free internet access, if you were clever enough you could steal whatever was on those computers. He said the most common name of wi-fi networks is "default". -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 10:50:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IFoDee011283 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:50:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:50:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006886D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:50:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3468015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:50:07 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IFo7Sk029135 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:50:07 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B09D61514AF96 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:50:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000501c5741d$62d49620$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Subject: Re: Re: Credit Cards Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:50:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "bonniemaev" To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Credit Cards > > I'm wondering now, though, if that's all I need > to think about. Did they get any numbers besides > the credit card number . . and could this lead to > identity theft . . etc. - D. M. Speaking of security, there was an article in the local newspaper how the manager of our internet cafe stood on a corner in the village of Bar Harbor with his PDA and detected eleven wi-fi networks. Only two were encrypted. Not only could you park on that corner with your laptop and get free internet access, if you were clever enough you could steal whatever was on those computers. He said the most common name of wi-fi networks is "default". -- --bonniev Scary. Will let Tush add the scary music. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:22:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IGMKee013399 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:22:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:22:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068871B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:22:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3469071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:22:19 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IGMJS5031589 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:22:19 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70832994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:22:18 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:23:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/06/19/travel/19norway.html?8td&emc=td&oref=login Hut-to-hut hiking. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:29:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IGTSee014069 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:29:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:29:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006888F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:29:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3469371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:29:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IGTR3q032088 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:29:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so183611nzo for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr1896525nzb; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:29:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KbKprA1qaSmbm/XXjNRhEJMWMPdmLmd74d0caElzfqsllDLWlh0qtcyMSs06N8TgA3sdDY8uIZvqOvAV+438/IWL4IC2GTTcGxOZt6JMsAuJSFG2VkRJ1DbgHgi2VKDJzgaf3cmWQTQrS88d7Ziy0g8UWrlmX+khLxOO+mJAe7I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050618092978135cd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:29:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5IGTR3q032089 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/18/05, Betty Clark wrote: > http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/06/19/travel/19norway.html?8td&emc=td&oref=login > > Hut-to-hut hiking. Over the tops of the huts? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:35:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IGZWee014641 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:35:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:35:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00688850@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:35:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3469605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:35:31 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IGZVFS032621 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:35:31 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5IGZVvR023262 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:35:31 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5IGYi0p006089 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:35:16 -0400 Message-ID: <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:34:44 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'll bet! It's also a great way to see the Presidentials in northern New Hampshire. The AMC hut system is extensive... and entertaining. The crews put on a skit after breakfast. There are anywhere from 6 to 14 or more bunks per room. 'Toilet facilities. Don't forget ear plugs... esophageal cacophony is a term that comes to mind. 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Clark" To: Sent: Saturday, 18 June, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: A good way to see Norway > http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/06/19/travel/19norway.html?8td&emc=td&oref=login > > Hut-to-hut hiking. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:41:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IGfeee015270 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:41:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:41:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00688944@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:41:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3470213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:41:40 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IGfdCI000705 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:41:40 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70837397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:41:39 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618093724.027c5040@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:43:06 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050618092978135cd5@mail.gmail.com> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050618092978135cd5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:29 AM 6/18/2005, you wrote: >On 6/18/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/06/19/travel/19norway.html?8td&emc=td&oref=login > > > > Hut-to-hut hiking. > >Over the tops of the huts? > >Karen I love how literal you are. I mean that in a way. Larry and I spent a great deal of one day hiking around easy trails at Point Lobos. It's really the best way to appreciate the beauty. I thought about Marcia and her hikes, too, and how much fun that sounded to really explore another country. We're going to a wedding at the Botanical Gardens today. I hope the rain stops. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:44:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IGifee015400 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:44:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:44:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068879A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:44:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3470383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:44:40 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IGickP000982 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:44:38 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCA85D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:44:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200506181644.j5IGickP000982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:44:38 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >We're going to a wedding at the Botanical Gardens today. I hope the rain >stops. > >Betty Rain? What's that? :) Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 11:55:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IGtBee016390 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:55:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:55:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068897D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:55:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3470780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:55:09 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5IGt8hH001689 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:55:09 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061818532513601 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:53:25 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:55:07 +0200 Message-ID: <42B451E7.1070307@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:55:03 -0700 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2005 16:55:07.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B1944C0:01C57426] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark skrev 18.06.2005 09:23: > http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/06/19/travel/19norway.html?8td&emc=td&oref=login > > > Hut-to-hut hiking. > On our honeymoon Ingjerd and I first went to Greece, to the Peloponnese, and then for a week of hiking on the Hardangervidda. In 1970 and 1971 I worked at a research camp at the Hardangervidda from July to September. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:00:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IH09ee017008 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:00:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:00:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006887DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:00:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3471019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:00:08 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IH08vV002045 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:00:08 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70841280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:00:07 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618095931.0279c680@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:01:33 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <200506181644.j5IGickP000982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506181644.j5IGickP000982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:44 AM 6/18/2005, you wrote: > >We're going to a wedding at the Botanical Gardens today. I hope the rain > >stops. > > > >Betty > >Rain? What's that? > >:) > >Amy I think it is unusual for June for us, too, but I don't pay much attention. Are you still in Arizona or have you started your trek to Kentucky? You hinted at being at Brad's memorial service. I hope you get to do that. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:12:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IHCJee018119 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:12:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:12:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068899B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:02:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3471098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:02:18 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IH2IlZ002298 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:02:18 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70841711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:02:17 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618100229.027f7560@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:03:44 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <42B451E7.1070307@gmail.com> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B451E7.1070307@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:55 AM 6/18/2005, you wrote: >Betty Clark skrev 18.06.2005 09:23: > >>http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/06/19/travel/19norway.html?8td&emc=td&oref=login >> >> >>Hut-to-hut hiking. >On our honeymoon Ingjerd and I first went to Greece, to the Peloponnese, >and then for a week of hiking on the Hardangervidda. In 1970 and 1971 I >worked at a research camp at the Hardangervidda from July to September. > >Espen And I loved some of the photos that you shared. I worried about your health and safety. :-) Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:12:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IHCJee018121 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:12:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:12:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068891C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:10:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3471540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:10:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IHAZBP004238 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:10:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so141637nzk for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.73 with SMTP id t73mr1854137nzg; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:10:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=p0uFIS84+oYiNBbQvYcPJ+PbUBq1PZHyKsdbsLQ3d3yvt16W3xqwFW4kPkRUqtLFzxhoWx1hSyt+eNFaH2XXBMEjfnlXWt766pvSKFZurhIHmO+7sEWN6FZ5okxJDar8ft74zVZPTJlsThLSfrtAp6YXDXNr9Xk0npshK5XjKrc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061810101c01cc82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:10:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618093724.027c5040@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050618092978135cd5@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618093724.027c5040@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5IHAaBP004239 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/18/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 09:29 AM 6/18/2005, you wrote: > >On 6/18/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/06/19/travel/19norway.html?8td&emc=td&oref=login > > > > > > Hut-to-hut hiking. > > > >Over the tops of the huts? > > > >Karen > > I love how literal you are. I mean that in a way. I was going to make a smart remark about the roofs, but then I re-read your e-mail and realized that it could be taken that way. Sort of a mountain goatish vacation.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:21:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IHLdee019412 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:21:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:21:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00688867@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:21:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3472307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:21:38 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IHLc6h005063; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:21:38 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70845787; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:21:34 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618101733.02756180@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:23:01 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061810101c01cc82@mail.gmail.com> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050618092978135cd5@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618093724.027c5040@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705061810101c01cc82@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:10 AM 6/18/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I was going to make a smart remark about the roofs, but then I re-read >your e-mail and realized that it could be taken that way. Sort of a >mountain goatish vacation.:) > >Karen Ryan invited me to go with him on a couple of hikes in Lassen Park next month. He is going to lead a group and wants to check out some of the trails first. 10,000 feet gets to be a little high for me these days. I got a little light headed last time we hiked to the top. I want to do Brokeoff Mountain this time. You already start off at a pretty good altitude there. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:26:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IHQAee019924 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:26:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:26:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068899A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:26:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3472679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:26:10 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5IHQ8XL005458 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:26:09 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005061819242613619 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:24:26 +0200 Received: from [158.39.120.32] ([158.39.120.32]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:26:07 +0200 Message-ID: <42B4592E.4050107@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:26:06 -0700 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B451E7.1070307@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618100229.027f7560@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618100229.027f7560@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2005 17:26:08.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[D054BD30:01C5742A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark skrev 18.06.2005 10:03: > At 09:55 AM 6/18/2005, you wrote: > >> Betty Clark skrev 18.06.2005 09:23: >> >>> http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/06/19/travel/19norway.html?8td&emc=td&oref=login >>> >>> >>> >>> Hut-to-hut hiking. >> >> On our honeymoon Ingjerd and I first went to Greece, to the Peloponnese, >> and then for a week of hiking on the Hardangervidda. In 1970 and 1971 I >> worked at a research camp at the Hardangervidda from July to September. >> >> Espen > > > And I loved some of the photos that you shared. I worried about your > health and safety. :-) > > Betty > The photos are still here: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/stigst.jpg http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/raudh1.jpg http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/sandh2.jpg http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/hjem.jpg But I guess you really have to have stayed there for some time or walked there to realize what the photos really are showing. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:52:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IHqeee023504 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:52:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:52:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006889FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:43:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3473871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:43:53 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IHhqoU007228 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:43:52 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70850575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:43:51 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618104447.027f3690@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:45:18 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <42B4592E.4050107@gmail.com> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B451E7.1070307@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618100229.027f7560@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B4592E.4050107@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The photos are still here: > >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/stigst.jpg >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/raudh1.jpg >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/sandh2.jpg >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/hjem.jpg > >But I guess you really have to have stayed there for some time or walked >there to realize what the photos really are showing. > >Espen Gorgeous photos anyway. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 12:53:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IHqeee023502 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:52:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:53:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006888F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:42:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3473814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:42:38 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IHgbAQ007077; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:42:37 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70850305; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:42:37 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618104233.066e0d50@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:44:03 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <42B4592E.4050107@gmail.com> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B451E7.1070307@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618100229.027f7560@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B4592E.4050107@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:26 AM 6/18/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >>And I loved some of the photos that you shared. I worried about your >>health and safety. :-) >> >>Betty >The photos are still here: > >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/stigst.jpg >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/raudh1.jpg >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/sandh2.jpg >http://folk.uio.no/espeo/espens/hjem.jpg > >But I guess you really have to have stayed there for some time or walked >there to realize what the photos really are showing. > >Espen I was worried about your blood pressure! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:09:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5II9Qee025538 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:09:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:09:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00688B5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:09:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3475302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:09:25 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5II9OaB009071 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:09:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so135521wra for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.44.58 with SMTP id r58mr1717448wrr; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:09:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=d+KV8iCFgGTvfTEr8jN2jQ+3S73ipxnDKR6UzIj+VlvEd8vV4UwGwZKSPME0QHVX6O3mXFpcIKAJ8AuNQ75O49i0Ix79QNdmxmLxnnhQN5IE8cpvGkMtajmKR0RYJMXaCMukhLP4E42JTzQ8uAM0hALBZDjlG9KDLDxV8InF0mI= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:09:24 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5II9Qee025538 > > I'll bet! It's also a great way to see the Presidentials in northern New > Hampshire. The AMC hut system is extensive... and entertaining. The crews > put on a skit after breakfast. There are anywhere from 6 to 14 or more > bunks per room. 'Toilet facilities. Don't forget ear plugs... esophageal > cacophony is a term that comes to mind. --'Alan I'd hate to see a country by having to stay in huts with 14 bunks. --shudder-- I also think it depends on the country about how best to see it. Now that I've seen the coast of Norway from a boat, it makes me want to see the coast of Scotland from a boat. I've hiked in Scotland. But the drama of coastal mountain ranges is best seen from the water, in my humble opinion. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:17:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IIHFee026226 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:17:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:17:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00688AE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:17:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3475966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:17:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IIHE1M009870 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:17:14 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so135131wri for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.113.14 with SMTP id l14mr1883133wrc; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:17:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Z2ILlRBJV+Y4EUfp4bB9Qg+/glWchrV0LDGaulUHZOQ5Z0YPcP8FWo1xdhOUmLe7oq8eVtIcBN7u93bkCr/o9184T2Kv2wNVc6+VYWvK/f9Y+RRNCMsF31Yqi4wuwvqdnioMvhXQmxeN7thbFXzlPnHkgrpfa+iBEZ8lVAXFqI4= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:17:13 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: was Re: Brad Pictures, now FEST In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050617172241.01bf7820@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.2.1.2.0.20050617172241.01bf7820@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5IIHFee026226 All freakin' five of them? Marie On 6/17/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > At 04:22 PM 6/17/2005, Marieber Meeber wrote: > >Clo, most if not all of your links don't work on that page. > > Marie > > Be quiet and process the pictures. > > cwv > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:37:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IIbUee028039 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:37:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:37:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00688A71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:37:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3477390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:37:30 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IIbTp6011463 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:37:29 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so139469wri for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.68.14 with SMTP id q14mr1879987wra; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:36:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QacvklgXH/MSLaeoQ8fMPqFecMc9faD/i3hcEtTpLh68ZVrH7fgfYb8KsV62fFCzSLWaAfTZL2F8XY8cNLU4AtVg1bd6Ep4EJRHRllze2xJy1TAbGvkogwS4cy981Cj086cvVaXmh80V88EVYBnAmiepeOYnikDK0kUcsgJaQgQ= Message-ID: <83db447a050618113678ba1997@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:36:56 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: was Re: Brad Pictures, now FEST In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.2.1.2.0.20050617172241.01bf7820@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5IIbUee028039 On 6/18/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > All freakin' five of them? That rather confirms my suspicion. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 13:43:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IIhGee028627 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:43:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:43:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00688B94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:43:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3477630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:43:16 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IIhF6U011852 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:43:15 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050618184315m9100nh88ne>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:43:15 +0000 Message-ID: <015e01c57435$9eb778c0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Subject: Re: Credit Cards Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:43:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris: >From what I understand, the card numbers were about all they got. What bothers me is that CardServices did not want MasterCard to let this get out. What are they trying to hide? The computer virus story smacks of a disgruntled employee to me. This is from someone who has experience both as a theft victim and working for a card processor. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Markland" To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Credit Cards Concerned because of the story today that 40 million credit cards (Visa and Master Card) may be at risk after an intrusion of systems at Card Services, I called Visa Card Services. Got through to a real live person, a very nice lady, who told me they are watching accounts closely and not recommending our getting new numbers at this time. She assured me that I would have no liability if someone else used my card number. I'm wondering now, though, if that's all I need to think about. Did they get any numbers besides the credit card number . . and could this lead to identity theft . . etc. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 14:11:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IJBbee031540 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:11:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:11:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00688C11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:01:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3478756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:01:36 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IJ1YHH013256 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:01:35 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BA602A79452A1 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:01:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c57438$218f7ed0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <015e01c57435$9eb778c0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Subject: Re: Re: Credit Cards Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:01:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The story struck me the same way. I expect we will hear more about this, since the game is for the press to dig into everything and look for a big story to blow up. On the other hand, this isn't gory enough . . unless they can make a way for it to reflect on a politician. Or, God forbid, there's a missing person or someone on a death bed who needs to be kept alive . . or unless attorneys get involved. - D. M. > Doris: > >>From what I understand, the card numbers were about all they got. What > bothers me is that CardServices did not want MasterCard to let this get > out. > What are they trying to hide? The computer virus story smacks of a > disgruntled employee to me. This is from someone who has experience both > as > a theft victim and working for a card processor. > > Cheers, > > Dave From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 15:01:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IK0Zee002844 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:00:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:01:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00688D9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:00:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3480338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:00:35 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IJoYVk016683 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:50:34 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5IJo0LJ030654 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:50:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:50:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Henry Doorly Zoo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The zoo was great. We went today in spite of the CWS parking issue - because we still have fairly cool weather here but may not after today. The entire CSW/zoo area reminded me of football Saturdays in Knoxville - parking, food, etc. There are at least a couple of zoo webcams; start at: http://www.omahazoo.com/cams/index.asp?page=cams/cams.htm (The first is ok on my Mac - but not the second.) If you click on Zoo Exhibits from the homepage, there are many photos. See: http://www.omahazoo.com/ And click on map locations. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:14:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ILEaee008993 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:14:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:14:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00688E5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:14:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3485706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:14:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5IL4YBr022414 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:04:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 15320 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Jun 2005 21:04:33 -0000 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:04:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (not) travel well Message-ID: <20050618210433.GA9849@words-l.org> References: <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <013801c573d3$bebae420$6210210a@neccomputer> <6.2.1.2.0.20050618084327.01bdcb00@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050618084327.01bdcb00@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 08:52:47AM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 03:02 AM 6/18/2005, Tanaka Akio wrote: > >(not) travel well > > > >... > > > >Any comments will be welcome. > > I agree with Ben. I would add that in Young's paragraph, "do not travel > well" also conveys the idea of "does not survive translation or > transferrence well" -- which would mesh with the idea in your 1). I would add that "culture does not travel well" is extremely poor writing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:15:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ILFOee009112 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:15:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:15:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCB00C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:05:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3485798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:05:21 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IL5KtU022460 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:05:20 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5IL5LvP026414 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:05:21 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5IL4c8L012825 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:04:53 -0400 Message-ID: <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Subject: Re: Re: A good way to see Norway Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:04:18 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "bonniemaev" Now that I've seen the coast of Norway from a boat, it makes me want to see the coast of Scotland from a boat. I've hiked in Scotland. But the drama of coastal mountain ranges is best seen from the water, in my humble opinion. --bonniev I've heard the Alaskan cruises are nice. 'Want to go on one someday. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:16:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ILGKee009170 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:16:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:16:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689020@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:16:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3485933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:16:19 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5IL6IHa022608 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:06:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 16117 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Jun 2005 21:06:18 -0000 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:06:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (1) Message-ID: <20050618210618.GB9849@words-l.org> References: <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 07:56:52AM -0500, Anne Toal wrote: > Tanaka Akio wrote: > > >1) passive-aggressive > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive > http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive > http://www.google.com/search?biw=995&hl=en&q=passive-aggressive > > BTW, answering a post with a three URLs intended to show how trivially > easy it would have been for the questioner to look the answer up for > himself is a very good example of passive-aggressive behavior. Looks like somebody didn't read the entries they posted ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:29:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ILTYee010180 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:29:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:29:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068908A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:29:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3487658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:29:33 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ILTXwE024295; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:29:33 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70899444; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:29:30 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:30:54 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:04 PM 6/18/2005, Alan Wild wrote: >I've heard the Alaskan cruises are nice. 'Want to go on one someday. > >'Alan Stay away from the yellow snow. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 16:44:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ILiYee011644 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:44:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:44:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068904D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:44:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3488713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:44:33 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ILiXa1025521 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:44:33 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5ILiXvP026807 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:44:33 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5ILiQdc017739 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:44:28 -0400 Message-ID: <00f101c5744e$e74495f0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: A good way to see Norway Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:44:26 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Clark" > At 02:04 PM 6/18/2005, Alan Wild wrote: >>I've heard the Alaskan cruises are nice. 'Want to go on one someday. >> >>'Alan > > Stay away from the yellow snow. ew... thx. When the time comes, we'll give you a shout. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 17:15:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5IMEwee014184 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:15:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:15:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCB2FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:14:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3490904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:14:56 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5IMEu00028048 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:14:56 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-9.gwi.net [216.195.163.9]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5IMEo63035774; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:14:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050618175858.01c0c780@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:59:42 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:30 PM 6/18/2005, Betty Clark wrote: >At 02:04 PM 6/18/2005, Alan Wild wrote: >>I've heard the Alaskan cruises are nice. 'Want to go on one someday. >> >>'Alan > >Stay away from the yellow snow. If he stays on the ship, that won't be a problem. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 18:10:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5INAQee018138 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:10:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:10:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00689190@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:10:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3494008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:10:25 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5INAPHm032693 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:10:25 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5INAPvP027729 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:10:25 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5INACSX027982 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:10:13 -0400 Message-ID: <010501c5745a$e2226230$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.2.1.2.0.20050618175858.01c0c780@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: A good way to see Norway Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:10:11 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ohmygod... ;-) I hope you all enjoyed that. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Saturday, 18 June, 2005 5:59 PM Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway > At 05:30 PM 6/18/2005, Betty Clark wrote: >>At 02:04 PM 6/18/2005, Alan Wild wrote: >>>I've heard the Alaskan cruises are nice. 'Want to go on one someday. >>> >>>'Alan >> >>Stay away from the yellow snow. > > If he stays on the ship, that won't be a problem. > > cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 18:49:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5INmiee021569 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:49:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:49:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCB688@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:48:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3497594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:48:42 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5INmftu004346 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:48:41 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050618234841.TBZG8692.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:48:41 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050618234841.GQCC13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:48:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4B2D7.7030504@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:48:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Got Your Check, Larry K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And noted the non-crossed 7. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 18:57:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5INvbee022350 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:57:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:57:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068967C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:57:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3500500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:57:36 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5INvZBP005667 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:57:35 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050618235735.TEYA8692.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:57:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050618235735.GRJA13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:57:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4B4ED.602@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:57:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ancestors References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617080242.02784470@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050617195751.57572.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050617202654.02807ab0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050617202654.02807ab0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Hi, Doris!! I'm glad you're here. Do you want us to call you from New > York this year on your birthday? Natalie, do you still have her > number in > your cell phone? I don't remember that I had it in my cell phone. I have only two or three numbers in it. Lemme check (if its battery is alive, which is probably is -- I've noticed that cellphone batteries stay live for a month or so -- that assumes the phone is turned off, of course, which mine normally is). ... No, I don't have it. But I do have the Voigtlanders'. When I searched for S, it hopped over to the next letters since I had no S's. It landed on Voigtlander and asked if I wanted to call. I started to punch yes -- or rather punch call -- on a lark. But I noticed that only one champagne glass was showing, which means the call wouldn't have gone through anyway. I then looked in my address book (the one that lives in my purse) and saw that I have Doris's address but without a phone number. I do remember some funny years when we've called various Smiths on July 3 in search of Doris. There are some nice Smiths in the Tomball area. But we really should write down Doris's number. 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(I bought it for her cover of "Sweet Dreams (Of You)" which is live.) --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:13:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0DNee023832 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:13:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:13:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00689722@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:11:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3503049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:11:28 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0BRdt006751 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:11:27 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619001127.BTRC16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:11:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619001127.NZTK4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:11:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4B828.1050000@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:11:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ancestors [plus camera stuff] References: <42B33B17.80708@maynor.net> <1313395523.20050617214517@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1313395523.20050617214517@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I mentioned them >NM> in a footnote (iirc >NM> -- I haven't looked at those pages lately -- have >NM> been fooling with >NM> other branches). > >I'm betting spendng the 29 buckeroos on the new version of FTM would >allow you to do those things. > > Funny timing. When the ancestry.com man called me last week about my renewals and I said no to the magazine I'd never gotten, he said that I could get the latest version of FTM for the cost of that magazine subscription. So I said yes. I had not upgraded way back because I was reading the comments about the various versions on a FTM forum back then and saw bad things about whichever version followed my ancient version. I haven't paid attention in years now, though, and decided might as well go on and upgrade, even if there are negatives. Another funny timing: When I got home late this afternoon from some more cemetery frolics, I saw something leaning against my front door -- something that apparently didn't go through the mailslot. And it is the FTM stuff. I haven't opened the packet yet and might not get around to that for days -- or even weeks. But it's here. Re the cemetery frolics: The batteries that came with the new camera died today -- they weren't rechargeables. So I stuck in the newly charged ones that were in the battery-charger, which travels with me when I'm using digital cameras. These are the batteries that I have used many times in the old camera. But for some reason they didn't work in the new camera. It was dead when they were in it. So I pulled them out and stuck in some ordinary batteries that had been in my glove-compartment for ages as backups in case my rechargeables died. They worked fine. I found that strange. Another camera thing: When I filled up the card (new camera), I went to the car to get the new card I'd bought a few days ago, thinking as I was walking to the car about how this new camera said that new cards should be formatted (something that my old camera and its cards didn't know about) and how I'd sit in my car and format the new card before resuming the photography. But I forgot to do that. Later I thought, "Oh shit. These pictures aren't going to turn out since I failed to format the new card." But they turned out just fine. So why does the TFM say that one must format a new card? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:19:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0J1ee024410 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:19:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:19:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689979@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:19:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3505986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:18:36 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0IZPa007420 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:18:35 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619001835.BVQT16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:18:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619001835.OAQB4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:18:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4B9D9.1030003@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:18:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (not) travel well References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <013801c573d3$bebae420$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <013801c573d3$bebae420$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio wrote: > 1) Some wines do not travel well. > > I suppose this means "some wines go bad while > transported." If so, how would you paraphrase > 'not travel well' in the following paragraph? > > 2) Interpersonal understanding is hampered by the fact > that culture doesn't always travel well, either in geographic > or social space. I'm having a very hard time thinking of words to use in a paraphrase -- as in a rewording of just that phrase. The idea could be paraphrased as something like "Interpersonal undertanding is hampered by cultural differences." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:21:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0LVee024655 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:21:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:21:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068999A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:21:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3507434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:21:30 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0LT9f007860 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:21:29 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5J0LTvP013306 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:21:29 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5J0LGpS004217 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:21:18 -0400 Message-ID: <015301c57464$cfea7d50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.2.1.2.0.20050618175858.01c0c780@pop.gwi.net> <010501c5745a$e2226230$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Subject: Re: Re: A good way to see Norway Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:21:12 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I actually imagined the Yellow Snow was a cruise line, given the season and all of the rose references I've been into: garden sunshine, carefree sunshine, golden this 'n that... this 'n that gold, yellow and buttered... Har! Betty, who loves ya?! ME! 8-) 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Wild" To: Sent: Saturday, 18 June, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway > ohmygod... ;-) I hope you all enjoyed that. ;-) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "clyde w. voigtlander" > To: > Sent: Saturday, 18 June, 2005 5:59 PM > Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway > > >> At 05:30 PM 6/18/2005, Betty Clark wrote: >>>At 02:04 PM 6/18/2005, Alan Wild wrote: >>>>I've heard the Alaskan cruises are nice. 'Want to go on one someday. >>>> >>>>'Alan >>> >>>Stay away from the yellow snow. >> >> If he stays on the ship, that won't be a problem. >> >> cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:25:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0PUee025127 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:25:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:25:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689AC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:25:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3508392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:25:25 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0PPAE009015 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:25:25 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619002525.BXVP16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:25:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619002524.OBOM4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:25:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:25:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (1) References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anne Toal wrote: > Tanaka Akio wrote: > >> 1) passive-aggressive > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive > http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive > http://www.google.com/search?biw=995&hl=en&q=passive-aggressive > > BTW, answering a post with a three URLs intended to show how trivially > easy it would have been for the questioner to look the answer up for > himself is a very good example of passive-aggressive behavior. But Akio's gleaning questions aren't about . He can do that with any word or term. He's asking us about our use of terms as native speakers of English. That can't be answered by , url or paper. I for sure don't know what Karen means by passive-aggressive. I haven't looked at your above urls, but I did look briefly at the one Karen posted and saw that it was about school children misbehaving or some such stuff. What that has to do with discussing language (Karen's previous use of the term passive-aggressive) I haven't a clue. So I also am interested in Akio's question. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:28:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0Sdee025384 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:28:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:28:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCBD45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:28:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:28:25 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0SPed009561 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:28:25 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619002825.BYTY16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:28:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619002825.OCAN4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:28:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4BC27.3090907@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:28:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Credit Cards References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >Concerned because of the story today >that 40 million credit cards (Visa and Master Card) > > What I heard on NPR at some point today mentioned MC but not Visa. >I'm wondering now, though, if that's all I need >to think about. Did they get any numbers besides >the credit card number . . and could this lead to >identity theft . . etc. > > Life is too short to spend time worrying about identity theft, credit card numbers, etc. Imho, of course. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:30:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0Tpee025487 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:29:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:30:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689B77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:29:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:29:50 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0TmeG009759 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:29:48 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006899BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:29:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200506190029.j5J0TmeG009759@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:29:41 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Are you still in Arizona or have you started your trek to Kentucky? You >hinted at being at Brad's memorial service. I hope you get to do that. > >Betty We're still in the Land of AZ. We'll leave July 1 for Kentucky, and we decided to make it a road trip. Master Carl has been in Kentucky since May 29, staying with grandparents. We'll stay there for about a week or so and head back here with Carl. Although Lexington is a five-hour drive from where we'll be, we will try to go. We were thinking of visiting some friends in Cincinnati/Dayton too. However, whatever my family has planned (and when) will be the ultimate consideration. We're going to pretty much stick to U.S. 60 on both ends and I-40 in the middle going out, but intend to pursue a more meandering route on the way back. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:34:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0Y8ee025946 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:34:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:34:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689C83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:34:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3511434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:34:06 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0Y5bI010695 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:34:06 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so203833wri for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.10.58 with SMTP id 58mr1998248wrj; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:34:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZZKfJfJnzn1itCIOpNUeP11HjtV0iSL3WR4FlsPzF0LoG+KUe3QExYI7Fn24jqtoM8X1q8IhXOD5xXikapuQTKXzW8of3nFKBxam2HgnWPe0xS13T7c5tvOyFJOsPfPzcenXoqr9Lky/hoFontR/YveO4OCZoHTU4VlNarzk4fQ= Message-ID: <83db447a05061817346c18f18f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:34:05 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ancestors [plus camera stuff] In-Reply-To: <42B4B828.1050000@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42B33B17.80708@maynor.net> <1313395523.20050617214517@gailndan.com> <42B4B828.1050000@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5J0Y8ee025946 On 6/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Another camera thing... Life is too short to worry about things like ancestors and camera batteries... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:39:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0diee026328 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:39:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:39:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689D06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:39:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3512385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:39:43 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0dhs7011474 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:39:43 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619003943.SUXN2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:39:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619003942.EDKP25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:39:42 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4BECD.3010401@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:39:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > But the drama of >coastal mountain ranges is best seen from the water, in my humble opinion. > > That's something I've wondered about re Alaska. People talk about how gorgeous Alaska is, and I found it not really all that gorgeous -- probably because I'd been in New Zealand not many months earlier, and it's hard to rival that kind of beauty (of the South Island in particular). I loved my trip to Alaska, but I'm wondering if maybe the scenery is more breath-taking from cruise ships that do southern Alaska. I flew to Fairbanks and flew home from Anchorage, doing side-trips like going up to Kotsebue, going along a river and seeing Susan Butcher and her dogs, and going on a boat that supposedly showed spectacular views -- did see some whales that day, which was fun, but felt ho-hum about the spectacular views (compared to what I'd seen in NZ). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:42:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0g1ee026499 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:42:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:42:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689D2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:42:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3512714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:42:00 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0g0R4011744 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:42:00 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619004200.SWIF2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:42:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619004159.EECJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:41:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4BF56.7090403@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:41:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> In-Reply-To: <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > coastal mountain ranges is best seen from the water, in my humble > opinion. > --bonniev > > I've heard the Alaskan cruises are nice. 'Want to go on one someday. We are . I do think from what I've heard and from pictures I've seen that the views of Alaska from water, especially southern water, are better than the views from on land or on boats out from more northern parts of Alaska. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:44:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0ilee026723 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:44:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:44:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689D54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:44:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3512990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:44:46 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0ikNj011860 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:44:46 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619004446.SXOU2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:44:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619004446.EEXC25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:44:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4BFFC.8020004@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:44:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>1 "Profile (The Best of Emmylou Harris)" >>Emmylou Harris; Audio CD; $10.99 >> >> >I have this CD too! Clone! (I bought it for her cover of "Sweet Dreams (Of >You)" which is live.) > > I bought it for "Boulder to Birmingham." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:56:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0uQee028395 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:56:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:56:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689D97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:54:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3513519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:54:52 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0spsa012915 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:54:51 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5J0sqvP024178 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:54:52 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5J0sIQQ008370 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:54:43 -0400 Message-ID: <018501c57469$7b0d1450$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.2.1.2.0.20050618175858.01c0c780@pop.gwi.net> <010501c5745a$e2226230$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <015301c57464$cfea7d50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42B4C05F.60709@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: A good way to see Norway Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:54:17 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" > Alan Wild wrote: > >> I actually imagined the Yellow Snow was a cruise line, given the >> season and > > Hey -- even those of us who live in pretty much snowfree lands know > about "yellow snow"! > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Natalie, your acceptance is all that I crave... promise that you'll always love me, and I will endeavor to persevere! ;-) xo 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:56:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0uQee028389 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:56:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:56:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689D5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:46:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3513062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:46:26 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0kPsP012007 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:46:25 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619004625.SYHJ2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:46:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619004625.EFJX25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:46:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4C05F.60709@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:46:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.2.1.2.0.20050618175858.01c0c780@pop.gwi.net> <010501c5745a$e2226230$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <015301c57464$cfea7d50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> In-Reply-To: <015301c57464$cfea7d50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > I actually imagined the Yellow Snow was a cruise line, given the > season and Hey -- even those of us who live in pretty much snowfree lands know about "yellow snow"! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:56:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0uQee028394 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:56:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:56:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00689CF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:56:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3513622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:56:02 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0u2sb013108 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:56:02 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <200506190056020160024e4ve>; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:56:02 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Credit Cards Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:55:55 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > those computers. He said the most common name of wi-fi networks is > "default". For those that come to Snowbash(es) with their wireless gear, I can provide the SSID and encryption keys to access my wireless network. However, I keep my wireless turned off most of the time since I sit right next to the darned box and I prefer wired Ethernet much more. I'm not one to read email in bed with the laptop, for instance. (I bought the wireless switch for my sister's visit in 2003.) --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 19:56:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J0uQee028392 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:56:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:56:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00689BA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:47:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3513098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:47:16 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J0lGKk012062 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:47:16 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619004716.SYRO2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:47:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619004715.EFPV25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:47:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4C092.6010207@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:47:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ancestors [plus camera stuff] References: <42B33B17.80708@maynor.net> <1313395523.20050617214517@gailndan.com> <42B4B828.1050000@maynor.net> <83db447a05061817346c18f18f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05061817346c18f18f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > Life is too short to worry about things like ancestors and camera >batteries... > > I agree. I don't worry about either. But I do enjoy playing with them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 20:23:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J1Mvee031016 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:22:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:23:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00689FB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:22:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:22:49 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J1MmuY016513 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:22:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so210641wri for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.98.17 with SMTP id v17mr1996446wrb; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:22:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GyMOFB5M83/0DHD0vDZpYVB5T4LuPCgcrDx60TNosaBbDtZnthKKD8Ok4rIiD8J+boXFU6yoTsyTNVeYt46JWmFM83S7njkjsPjdrAUf2ZzTugIvxLvY6DugDRZvd6NXPfXjA/NFwWhbKvMZcr94vOgU546ljluaVogp45BTg/4= Message-ID: <83db447a050618182274f0c8c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:22:48 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: Progress 18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5J1Mvee031016 Great TV tonight. The Russian commander of Progress 18---the supply ship to the international space station---had to take over control and manually "fly" the ship to final docking during the last 15 minutes (about 160 meters), after the computer uplink failed. Impressive perfromance, great photography. Beats hell out of "Survivor." cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 20:40:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J1eYee000170 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:40:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:40:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068A00A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:40:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:40:17 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J1eHdS018650 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:40:17 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619014017.NASK22685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:40:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619014016.SMN1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:40:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4CCFF.7060005@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:40:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.2.1.2.0.20050618175858.01c0c780@pop.gwi.net> <010501c5745a$e2226230$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <015301c57464$cfea7d50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42B4C05F.60709@maynor.net> <018501c57469$7b0d1450$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> In-Reply-To: <018501c57469$7b0d1450$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > Natalie, your acceptance is all that I crave... promise that you'll > always > love me, and I will endeavor to persevere! I love you wildly and always will! -- xoxoxoxo -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:21:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J2LHee004912 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:21:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:21:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068A368@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:51:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:51:17 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J1pGRY019963 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:51:17 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C4A5FF107E41 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:51:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000701c57471$5cbfb040$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42B4BC27.3090907@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Credit Cards Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:51:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >> > What I heard on NPR at some point today mentioned MC but not Visa. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >From this morning's article on Yahoo: "Only about 13.9 million of the 40 million credit card accounts that may have been exposed to fraud were MasterCard accounts. It was not immediately clear how many of the other accounts were considered at high risk." In another article I saw reference to something like 20 million Visa cards. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:29:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J2T3ee005449 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:29:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:29:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068A6C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:29:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3530766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:29:03 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J2T20a023592 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:29:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so219986wri for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.145.8 with SMTP id s8mr281726wrd; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:29:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=E8n3X/37zvE+AgXPLr6A4MnB0YWtoz9kCDQg3KAGzrLDKYJKlVIsT5DxWGj0QuXFAO4bYO3yLEVecekozZSVv5L7ctb6+ublvCamxn7IByt05nxWXRL2ZXzHTa947F1OkNrVAuPqfDl7jtXtCkBWNtvESha6FoRcOOs4UuGpNYA= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:29:02 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Pictures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5J2T3ee005449 http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c584215.html I don't have many words-l pictures, but I sure do have Jade and Melissa pictures. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:33:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J2XOee005784 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:33:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:33:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068A510@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:33:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3530853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:33:23 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J2XNdv024208 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:33:23 -0400 Received: from LAPTOP (unverified [24.117.113.233]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23412576 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:43:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:33:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1599125681.20050618203317@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Credit Cards In-Reply-To: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 3, First 226, in=278, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.117.113.233 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/18/2005, 8:56 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> I'm wondering now, though, if that's all I need DM> to think about. Did they get any numbers besides DM> the credit card number . . and could this lead to DM> identity theft . . etc. Anything is possible, but I'd sure not lose sleep over it. And nothing you can do about it until/if it happens. I know something about this having had five checks stolen from outgoing mail. Took about three days out of my life to sort it out with two banks, five creditors, police, and so forth. My ultimate loss, other than time, was zero. Can provide details of what and how they did it if anyone cares. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:36:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J2a5ee006023 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:36:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:36:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068A622@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:36:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3530934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:36:05 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J2a45j024552 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:36:04 -0400 Received: from LAPTOP (unverified [24.117.113.233]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23478598 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:36:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:36:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <931217194.20050618203606@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Credit Cards In-Reply-To: References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 230, in=292, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.117.113.233 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lots of guys do this....one technique is called "war driving". You can pick up several dozen cruising around downtown Boise. My son uses one regularly in a coffee shop. But it isn't their wireless. It is coming from the bank two doors down in the strip mall. He figures it probably is separate from their fiscal network....but since it isn't HIS bank, he just enjoys using it. Right now I'm on free and open wireless in a Best Western in Jerome, Idaho. It is a hotel amenity, but you can pick it up off their property. I know it is on a separate DSL from their other fiscal/reservation/etc business network. dan 6/18/2005, 9:40 AM, bonniemaev wrote: b> manager of our internet cafe stood on a corner in b> the village of Bar Harbor b> with his PDA and detected eleven wi-fi networks. b> Only two were encrypted. b> Not only could you park on that corner with your b> laptop and get free b> internet access, From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:38:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J2coee006232 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:38:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:38:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068A51E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:38:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3531019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:38:49 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J2cncv024689 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:38:49 -0400 Received: from LAPTOP (unverified [24.117.113.233]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23228843 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:02:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:38:51 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <74123820.20050618203851@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Credit Cards In-Reply-To: <000801c57438$218f7ed0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <015e01c57435$9eb778c0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <000801c57438$218f7ed0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 232, in=293, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.117.113.233 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/18/2005, 1:01 PM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> The story struck me the same way. I expect we will DM> hear more about this, since the game is for the press DM> to dig into everything and look for a big story to DM> blow up. Well,they'll continue to blow it up whether there is anything more to find or not. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:42:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J2g5ee006431 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:42:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:42:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068A62A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:42:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3531051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:42:01 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J2g0Nu024969 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:42:00 -0400 Received: from LAPTOP (unverified [24.117.113.233]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23412919 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:52:10 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:42:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <282629382.20050618204203@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Credit Cards In-Reply-To: <42B4BC27.3090907@maynor.net> References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42B4BC27.3090907@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=279, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.117.113.233 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/18/2005, 6:28 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Concerned because of the story today >>that 40 million credit cards (Visa and Master Card) >> >> NM> What I heard on NPR at some point today mentioned MC NM> but not Visa. Exactly what they said on NBC Today Show this morning too. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 21:43:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J2haee006544 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:43:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:43:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068A523@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:43:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3531076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:43:36 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J2hZVE025078 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:43:35 -0400 Received: from LAPTOP (unverified [24.117.113.233]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23412996 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:53:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 20:43:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1473338719.20050618204338@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <42B4BECD.3010401@maynor.net> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42B4BECD.3010401@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 226, in=280, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.117.113.233 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/18/2005, 6:39 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> People talk about how NM> gorgeous Alaska is, and I found it not really all NM> that gorgeous -- Because you apparently didn't do the inside passage, which is the beautiful part in the sense of mountains, fjords, glaciers, etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 22:31:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J3Voee010722 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:31:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:31:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068A915@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:31:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3536246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:31:49 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J3Vnc8029576 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:31:49 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619033149.ELAY16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:31:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619033148.PEEU4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:31:48 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4E723.6090900@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:31:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Credit Cards References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42B4BC27.3090907@maynor.net> <000701c57471$5cbfb040$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000701c57471$5cbfb040$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > In another article I saw reference to something like > 20 million Visa cards. I just can't get very excited about this news. Among other reasons, my understanding of the credit-card world, which may of course be erroneous, is that it would cost me only $50 if a thief used my credit card. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 22:41:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J3fpee011526 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:41:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:41:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068A942@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:41:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3536664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:41:50 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J3foV2030143 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:41:50 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619034150.EODZ16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:41:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619034149.PFNI4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:41:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4E97C.706@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:41:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c584215.html > > Wonderful pictures!! What are the plans for their upcoming birthday? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 22:43:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J3hSee011693 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:43:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:43:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068A793@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:43:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3536752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:43:28 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J3hSDW030264 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:43:28 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.50]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619034327.EOOZ16444.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:43:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.50]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050619034327.PFST4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:43:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42B4E9DE.5090705@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:43:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42B4BECD.3010401@maynor.net> <1473338719.20050618204338@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1473338719.20050618204338@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> People talk about how >NM> gorgeous Alaska is, and I found it not really all >NM> that gorgeous -- > >Because you apparently didn't do the inside passage, which is the >beautiful part in the sense of mountains, fjords, glaciers, etc. > > I thought that was the point I was making. I guess I didn't make it very well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 23:40:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J4eBee016917 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:40:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:40:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068AC0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 0:40:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3542512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:40:11 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J4eA57002497 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:40:11 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70976255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:40:10 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618214035.02774eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:41:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <00f101c5744e$e74495f0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> <00f101c5744e$e74495f0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:44 PM 6/18/2005, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty Clark" >>At 02:04 PM 6/18/2005, Alan Wild wrote: >>>I've heard the Alaskan cruises are nice. 'Want to go on one someday. >>> >>>'Alan >> >>Stay away from the yellow snow. > >ew... thx. When the time comes, we'll give you a shout. Frank Zappa apostrophe ( " ) First song. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 23:44:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J4hwee017235 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:43:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:44:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068AA6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 0:43:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3542744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:43:57 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J4hvAI002767 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:43:57 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70976941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:43:55 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618214503.06265df0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:45:24 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <015301c57464$cfea7d50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618143039.0279a930@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.2.1.2.0.20050618175858.01c0c780@pop.gwi.net> <010501c5745a$e2226230$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <015301c57464$cfea7d50$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The second song is "Nanook Rubs it". Betty At 05:21 PM 6/18/2005, you wrote: >I actually imagined the Yellow Snow was a cruise line, given the season and >all of the rose references I've been into: garden sunshine, carefree >sunshine, golden this 'n that... this 'n that gold, yellow and buttered... > >Har! > >Betty, who loves ya?! > >ME! 8-) > >'Alan > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alan Wild" >To: >Sent: Saturday, 18 June, 2005 7:10 PM >Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway > > >>ohmygod... ;-) I hope you all enjoyed that. ;-) >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >>To: >>Sent: Saturday, 18 June, 2005 5:59 PM >>Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway >> >> >>>At 05:30 PM 6/18/2005, Betty Clark wrote: >>>>At 02:04 PM 6/18/2005, Alan Wild wrote: >>>>>I've heard the Alaskan cruises are nice. 'Want to go on one someday. >>>>> >>>>>'Alan >>>> >>>>Stay away from the yellow snow. >>> >>>If he stays on the ship, that won't be a problem. >>> >>>cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 18 23:48:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J4mWee017866 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:48:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:48:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068AC45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 0:48:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3542985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:48:32 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J4mV39003090 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:48:31 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 70977782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:48:31 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050618214947.06266330@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:49:59 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:29 PM 6/18/2005, you wrote: >http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c584215.html > I don't have many words-l pictures, but I sure do have Jade and Melissa >pictures. > >-- >Marie >marieber@gmail.com They are wicked cute! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 04:05:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5J95qee011134 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:05:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 04:05:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068AF0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 5:05:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3550175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:05:51 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5J95mVK021382 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 05:05:50 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5J95lrm023783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:05:47 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5J95k5p023781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:05:46 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:05:46 +0200 To: words-l Subject: the big delete party was yesterday Message-ID: <20050619090546.GA23771@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We missed it. The big delete party was yesterday: http://www.monochrom.at/experiences/party.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 06:06:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JB6iee026752 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 06:06:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 06:06:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068AE13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 7:06:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3550941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:06:43 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JB6gsN017769 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:06:43 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5JB6fjh004117 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:06:42 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: A wedding Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:06:41 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia was a guest at the wedding of our old friend Anders this weekend, together with Dan. She's that mousy little creature barely visible in the foreground. http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 08:11:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JDBCee008542 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:11:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:11:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCD639@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 9:11:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3552937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:11:12 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JD1CZb023477 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:01:12 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5JD0jie031571 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:00:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:01:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Wild Oats Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had a great Saturday. Shortly after I got back from the zoo (and I forgot to tell you about the ride on the train with the steam engine), I was invited to go to Wild Oats Market later in the afternoon - to buy groceries. I had never been to one - it is cool, and I now have FOOD on hand! Mostly I bought basics (cereal, dried soup, a couple of deli salads, etc.), but I also picked up a box of their indulgences au chocolat - a dozen pieces of chocolate with fruits and nuts (from Belgium). Excellent! See: www.wildoats.com (One friend was very happy that they post a list of gluten-free deli items.) My suitemate was taking only a one-week course. She left this morning, so I now have the entire suite to myself. I still need one item - a lamp - maybe I can get to the salvific Sally store later. (Incidentally, salvific is one of my favorite words, and I rarely hear it - I have heard it in class lectures here at least twice.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 09:27:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JERdee016314 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:27:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:27:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCD712@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 10:27:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3555655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:27:39 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JERclx029760 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:27:38 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-125.gwi.net [216.195.166.125]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5JERWps084253; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:27:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050619101852.01bfbb28@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:27:26 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <1473338719.20050618204338@gailndan.com> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <42B4BECD.3010401@maynor.net> <1473338719.20050618204338@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:43 PM 6/18/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >6/18/2005, 6:39 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> People talk about how >NM> gorgeous Alaska is, and I found it not really all >NM> that gorgeous -- > >Because you apparently didn't do the inside passage, which is the >beautiful part in the sense of mountains, fjords, glaciers, etc. There probably weren't enough people around to block out the scenery. What little I saw of Alaska, I saw by auto--a couple of days exploring the Kenai peninsula--Soldontna, Seward, Homer, etc.--and then one day driving east on 1 from Anchorage through Palmer to Copper Center. I did it at a good time, so the locals told me---enough after breakup that all the roads were open and safe but before the tourists in their Winnebagos and the insects became abundant. Beautiful river valleys and mountains. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 09:42:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JEgRee017279 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:42:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:42:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068AF90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 10:42:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3555904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:42:27 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JEgRR6030433 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:42:27 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050619144226m92008i953e>; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:42:26 +0000 Message-ID: <009601c574dd$1d3c9070$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050618092255.027a0720@calmail.berkeley.edu> <008e01c57423$b5b3e430$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <00db01c57449$64f30550$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Subject: Re: Re: A good way to see Norway Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:42:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan: Have heard good and bad. Just prepare for the bugs! Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Wild" To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bonniemaev" > Now that I've seen the coast of Norway from a boat, it makes me want to > see > the coast of Scotland from a boat. I've hiked in Scotland. But the drama > of > coastal mountain ranges is best seen from the water, in my humble opinion. > > --bonniev > > I've heard the Alaskan cruises are nice. 'Want to go on one someday. > > 'Alan > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 09:47:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JElPee017868 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:47:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 09:47:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCD777@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 10:37:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3555845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:37:24 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JEbOVr030245 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:37:24 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71101389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:37:23 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619073714.03714940@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:38:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A wedding In-Reply-To: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:06 AM 6/19/2005, you wrote: > Marcia was a guest at the wedding of our old friend Anders this >weekend, together with Dan. > > She's that mousy little creature barely visible in the foreground. > >http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg I love it! Happy Father's Day to all you words-l dads. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 12:45:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JHj9ee003121 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:45:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:45:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCD9A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 13:45:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3560323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:45:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JHZ8WV019089 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:35:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so276045nzp for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.13 with SMTP id p13mr2645718nza; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.206? ([12.5.248.2]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c12sm3672853nzc.2005.06.19.10.35.07; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:35:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:reply-to:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=EqTKZ5Uw5h1eGUjJqRSPJy8mcbzUuv+Xww+Jiq36fHohI9T8kZwn4H8dDYBpyp8KlPUAOHYhcrDQEe19FmwMqc9repgcmgSDpHdOtJKAOc6SOMigY2saNzFzluLZicMQ1vNYkIM57QhEWh10ci1Ald5t3Q1/rLplJrkSQsaCmJQ= Message-ID: <42B5AD0A.5040403@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:36:10 -0500 Reply-To: mysterian@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (1) References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Anne Toal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie- Point well taken. -a From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 13:43:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JIhDee009651 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:43:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:43:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCDA33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 14:43:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3562155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:43:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JIhC8F024130 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:43:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so651326nzo for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.9 with SMTP id t9mr2663898nzg; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:43:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Nz7Uic6FUsRSuEzQ3WBspTR9NAXOJVcC+QMySPsY1BESB69qJ9i97Pgw5r3j7oKR2lmGYYtZkvW+4hNTkTqC/4qoGzAn2/fcdJjK0/5Nj5mivbHgSBCih1yaDyDSTgUd3TvEQR4uxiiPl//S8+nMFqpjd13SlKMAi1tiGmKi3UM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:43:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (1) In-Reply-To: <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5JIhD8F024131 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/18/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Anne Toal wrote: > > > Tanaka Akio wrote: > > > >> 1) passive-aggressive > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive > > http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive > > http://www.google.com/search?biw=995&hl=en&q=passive-aggressive > > > > BTW, answering a post with a three URLs intended to show how trivially > > easy it would have been for the questioner to look the answer up for > > himself is a very good example of passive-aggressive behavior. > > But Akio's gleaning questions aren't about . He > can do that with any word or term. He's asking us about our use of > terms as native speakers of English. That can't be answered by something up>, url or paper. I for sure don't know what Karen means by > passive-aggressive. I haven't looked at your above urls, but I did look > briefly at the one Karen posted and saw that it was about school > children misbehaving or some such stuff. What that has to do with > discussing language (Karen's previous use of the term > passive-aggressive) I haven't a clue. So I also am interested in Akio's > question. I didn't invent the term, so it's not MY meaning. I thought the article I posted did a good job of describing your behavior--I mean, passive-aggressive behavior. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 14:36:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JJaDee015851 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:36:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:36:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCDAED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 15:36:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3563604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:36:13 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JJaDUN027492 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:36:13 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so102192rnf for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.51 with SMTP id n51mr988965rna; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:36:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CpdOO8KCaoe+EK9ytvtobs2fHtvAP2Ils2m6LU0HkI+Hmfxd9wvJx1f9y3VUcceFrmsvSg4DZGcJ7hLbfl8xOwGFkSJ+pHYb2VDrvpyMFlv9Knen4jnYWPyHX9LyGGfLt0G2NpvSC098kOY0ETATAyMfMfyUrW/PFHL2a6ldjLs= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:36:12 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5JJaDUN027493 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c584215.html > I don't have many words-l pictures, but I sure do have Jade and Melissa > pictures. Oh those kids are so cute... I miss those days - you blink and they'll be off to school. But oh the horror - a walker! Those things are so illegal here now that people even get busted for selling one at a garage sale. Are they still available at stores in the US? Oh - you probably don't have stairs out there in whatits-on-the-Hudson, right? Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 14:38:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JJcZee016036 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:38:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:38:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCDB44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 15:38:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3563660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:38:35 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JJcYjx027557 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 15:38:34 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050619193834m9100ngboqe>; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:38:34 +0000 Message-ID: <019b01c57506$7b9ce2e0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <1599125681.20050618203317@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Credit Cards Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:38:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: Never mind checks stolen. How about having a new credit card itself stolen in the mail? It happened to me and if I hadn't gotten suspicious about what was taking so long for it to arrive I might never have known. Surprisingly, this guy, according to the bank, was able to get a PIN # and used it to get cash from a series of ATMs in the Las Vegas area where I was living at the time. What happens in Vegas shouldn't always stay in Vegas! Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Credit Cards > 6/18/2005, 8:56 AM, Doris Markland wrote: > > > DM> I'm wondering now, though, if that's all I need > DM> to think about. Did they get any numbers besides > DM> the credit card number . . and could this lead to > DM> identity theft . . etc. > > Anything is possible, but I'd sure not lose sleep over it. And > nothing you can do about it until/if it happens. I know something > about this having had five checks stolen from outgoing mail. Took > about three days out of my life to sort it out with two banks, five > creditors, police, and so forth. My ultimate loss, other than time, > was zero. > > Can provide details of what and how they did it if anyone cares. > > dan > From holdit@frznet.net Sun Jun 19 14:42:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from frznet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JJgbef016407 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:42:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200506191942.j5JJgbef016407@gtoal.com> Received: from 72.26.221.12 ([72.26.221.12]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:42:43 CDT From: "Hold It Systems" Subject: The most cost effective advertising you can do To: words-l@gtoal.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: holdit@frznet.net Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:42:39 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 18:23:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5JNN8ee006643 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:23:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:23:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCDF90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 19:23:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3572132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:23:08 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5JNN7dH013471 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:23:07 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 113471684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:23:06 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619161852.02b7b200@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:24:31 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:36 PM 6/19/2005, you wrote: >Marieber Meeber wrote: > > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/c584215.html > > I don't have many words-l pictures, but I sure do have Jade and Melissa > > pictures. > >Oh those kids are so cute... I miss those days - you blink and they'll >be off to school. > >But oh the horror - a walker! Those things are so illegal here now >that people even get busted for selling one at a garage sale. Are they >still available at stores in the US? Oh - you probably don't have >stairs out there in whatits-on-the-Hudson, right? > >Tony H. Nathaniel's walker can only go around in a circle and you can lock that. I think it's called an ExerSaucer Walkaround. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 19:54:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5K0sQee017341 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:54:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:54:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCE064@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 20:54:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3574120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:54:25 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5K0sNng023284 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:54:23 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-125.gwi.net [216.195.166.125]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5K0sIGO009376; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:54:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050619204748.01c0cec0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:54:14 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619161852.02b7b200@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619161852.02b7b200@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:24 PM 6/19/2005, Betty Clark wrote: >Nathaniel's walker can only go around in a circle ... How appropriate for the Cote Gauche. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 20:13:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5K1CUee019592 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:12:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:12:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCE08F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 21:02:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3574053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:02:29 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5K0qSlb022942 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:52:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 97423 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Jun 2005 00:52:27 -0000 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:52:27 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the big delete party was yesterday Message-ID: <20050620005227.GA94529@words-l.org> References: <20050619090546.GA23771@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050619090546.GA23771@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 11:05:46AM +0200, steph wrote: > We missed it. The big delete party was yesterday: > http://www.monochrom.at/experiences/party.htm What a coincidence! On this other group, we were just discussing whether the epidemic of stupid is linked to the epidemic of obesity! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 20:15:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5K1Ffee019936 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:15:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:15:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCE075@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 21:15:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3574767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:15:41 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5K1FeHD025545 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:15:40 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23521964 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:15:58 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.116.147.200]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:16:07 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:15:42 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <88994855.20050619191542@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Credit Cards In-Reply-To: <019b01c57506$7b9ce2e0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <1599125681.20050618203317@gailndan.com> <019b01c57506$7b9ce2e0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 231, in=83516, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/19/2005, 1:38 PM, David Guy Fetzer wrote: DGF> Never mind checks stolen. How about having a new DGF> credit card itself stolen DGF> in the mail? It happened to me and if I hadn't DGF> gotten suspicious about what DGF> was taking so long for it to arrive I might never DGF> have known. Guess you would have known when the bills came. Assume it was all covered, since you never got or signed the card. We didn't know about the checks stolen for a month, when the things they paid started to send overdue notices. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 20:30:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5K1Ukee021366 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:30:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:30:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCE0DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 21:30:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3575092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:30:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5K1KirL026438 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:20:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 12272 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Jun 2005 01:20:44 -0000 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:20:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding Message-ID: <20050620012044.GB94529@words-l.org> References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> <6.0.1.1.2.20050619073714.03714940@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619073714.03714940@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 07:38:52AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > Happy Father's Day to all you words-l dads. I have had a few words of wisdom thrown at me a truly incredible number of times this year--"dads" don't want neckties. What do they want then? Apparently, golf clubs and electric nose hair trimmers. How wonderful to see our own dumb little generation grow into fatherhood. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 20:42:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5K1gOee022334 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:42:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:42:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCE139@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 21:42:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3575754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:42:23 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5K1gNXj028812 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:42:23 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.129.144]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050620014223.DKBE9057.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:42:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.129.144]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050620014222.GTKO7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:42:22 -0400 Message-ID: <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:42:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (1) References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: > I thought the >article I posted did a good job of describing your behavior--I mean, > > Then you obviously don't know me very well! It was about as far removed from my behavior as something can be, whether we're talking about the pre-school years, since that was what that article was about, or adulthood. I laughed out loud at the thought that I would have to be prodded to complete a task, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 21:52:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5K2qUee030947 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:52:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:52:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCE237@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 22:42:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3577629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:42:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5K2gS2I003065 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:42:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so817005nzo for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.9 with SMTP id t9mr2867509nzg; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:42:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EGx/RPy7PhirzgIKQdeM1GvxxaRmT9XgdwfWP1hgYj8HmrGWAKKliLfOGF4jyZrbJGHexin2L+t7OeJ7dmvHTPRdzanWR2n1lRqFX8AS41iqjC65on+RZeM8Jupc/CnqAXkJAQ+mU0wIuPf7N7AWm2NWKrGE5sqIAGntJ3qYgz8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061919428941956@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:42:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (1) In-Reply-To: <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5K2gT2I003069 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/19/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > I thought the > >article I posted did a good job of describing your behavior--I mean, > > > > > Then you obviously don't know me very well! It was about as far removed > from my behavior as something can be, whether we're talking about the > pre-school years, since that was what that article was about, or > adulthood. I laughed out loud at the thought that I would have to be > prodded to complete a task, etc. etc. "hearing only what they want", etc. etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 21:54:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5K2sMee031207 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:54:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:54:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068B804@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 22:44:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3577713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:44:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5K2iLM1003327 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:44:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so817865nzo for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.13 with SMTP id s13mr912325nzc; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:44:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HhC8HjmoAfYxqub0se6NKiPVcywIp4Cw0b0PaB55cZ4StpZPBH80J+9pvEFa69UnipHGZkadPYBxMgHqnRDivXmrsiSZ5Q7yeK9ot1rsin1qxeQY5F+I+QWEWhFjUwj0wmXfKlwG7MnjOz4X4nid/NEjCHxhpCN7dD1sakOX++I= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705061919442a441553@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:44:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619161852.02b7b200@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619161852.02b7b200@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5K2iLM1003329 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/19/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Nathaniel's walker can only go around in a circle and you can lock that. > I think it's called an ExerSaucer Walkaround. Oh no! One leg is going to be longer than the other! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 21:54:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5K2sMee031208 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:54:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:54:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068B8DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 22:51:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3577601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:51:42 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5K2ffCQ002974 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:41:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 53939 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Jun 2005 02:41:41 -0000 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:41:40 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (1) Message-ID: <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 08:42:17PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >I thought the > >article I posted did a good job of describing your behavior--I mean, > > > Then you obviously don't know me very well! It was about as far removed > from my behavior as something can be, whether we're talking about the > pre-school years, since that was what that article was about, or > adulthood. I laughed out loud at the thought that I would have to be > prodded to complete a task, etc. etc. You know, I had a fine and accurate name for it (rude cunning) but these damn "evil twins" need psycho-vocabulary to have it sound real ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 19 22:04:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5K34gee032566 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:04:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:04:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068B842@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 19 Jun 2005 22:54:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3578346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:54:41 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5K2sfU5004528 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:54:41 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71243244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:54:40 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619195341.02b7eca0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:56:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705061919442a441553@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619161852.02b7b200@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705061919442a441553@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:44 PM 6/19/2005, you wrote: >On 6/19/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > Nathaniel's walker can only go around in a circle and you can lock that. > > I think it's called an ExerSaucer Walkaround. > >Oh no! One leg is going to be longer than the other! > >Karen It's really cute. Similar to this. http://tinyurl.com/7shck My favorite thing to watch him in is his jumper. He starts swimming lessons next week. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 06:07:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KB7mee018830 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:07:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:07:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCEB10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 7:07:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3596594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:07:48 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KB7l3m004397 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:07:47 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.118]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050620110747.OKAO16779.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:07:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.118]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050620110747.UZMD11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:07:47 -0400 Message-ID: <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:07:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (1) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >You know, I had a fine and accurate name for it (rude cunning) > > Ahh. Rude cunning I understand. I have no problem with that label. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 07:50:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KCoTee031174 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:50:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:50:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCED07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 8:50:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3600915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:50:29 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KCoSOK015982 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:50:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068C178@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 8:50:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200506201250.j5KCoSOK015982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:50:28 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Frustrating To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:00:42 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >We've discussed this before -- my desire for a CD of an old Robert >Goullet album I had that included "Walk into the Dawn." I'm on a quest >again (started when I was on Amazon -- actually am still on -- haven't >finalized the order yet of YoYoMa and Emmylou Harris -- wanted to add >Goullet). In poking around on the web, I've found sources for old >albums, but that's not what I want. I gave away my old album not all >that long ago. I want a CD of this album: > >http://www.musicstack.com/item/180597370/goulet,robert/summer+sounds > >Why in these days when pretty much anything is out there in whatever >form one wants it in can I not find a CD of this mid-'60s album? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Annoying, isn't it? So close to everything one could ask for, but not quite. Kind of like the inevitable relationship to the near-perfect spouse. I can't get a copy of "You Are What You Eat" either. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 07:51:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KCpVee031278 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:51:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:51:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCED4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 8:51:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3599914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:51:31 -0400 Received: from [211.190.243.165] ([211.190.243.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KCfFes013999; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:41:28 -0400 Received: from lopezclub.com (lopezclub-com.mr.outblaze.com [205.158.62.181]) for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:51:10 +0000 Message-Id: <200506201241.j5KCfFes013999@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: Bridgett Gage To: whaaff-l-request@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Unique Logo design! 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For value and a logo that reflects your image, take a few minutes and visit Try Logos! http://www0.try-logos.biz/ Sincerely, Logo Design Team http://www0.try-logos.biz/uns.php From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 07:58:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KCw2ee031802 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:58:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:58:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCED71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 8:58:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3601855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:58:02 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KCw1Hv017771 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:58:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so798382wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.150.2 with SMTP id x2mr2484733wrd; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:58:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Y9nzUPzWpO8J+nGuO6dkHGjHmBuWnaFpvFpg/bDbWrLs2bPtNh2thuVubvqrm1u2k1Ee6IhJaVa2Z7kid9c5VSdozuFENJ2skEf8lvx76U/OkxHITj7Ne3FftqfExNlQN2jixzEU3Q0illIwPD61zOmUGhKdMhm9YwH2hZ7tyJs= Message-ID: <44dce1c10506200558685566d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:58:01 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding In-Reply-To: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KCw2Hv017772 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/19/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > Marcia was a guest at the wedding of our old friend Anders this > weekend, together with Dan. > > She's that mousy little creature barely visible in the foreground. > > http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg > Gorgeous! I love the hat! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:07:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KD7Dee000287 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:07:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:07:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCEDB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:07:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3602453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:07:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KD7Cf1019229 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:07:12 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so667908wri for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.5.9 with SMTP id 9mr2646777wre; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:07:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b4LP0VZ900cQC60KaONFjElkKUhr15pLMBgA0Xo2hHIibu2DA06tHeR9bLtpHvIBCn3BN6AuLI7kIYIntbR7WqORd5sQtQI5BPKuIKv4KrlMaJjsztnB7Gt+rMY/flrW6xXixIx4lpV+x622MEehKjuyemnacNMB2Oxi7v244vs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:07:12 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5KD7Dee000287 On 6/19/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > > But oh the horror - a walker! Those things are so illegal here now > that people even get busted for selling one at a garage sale. Are they > still available at stores in the US? Oh - you probably don't have > stairs out there in whatits-on-the-Hudson, right? We have one set of stairs down to the basement level -- but we have a very secure metal gate on it, and we have another set outside the front door, so we keep that door locked now that the girls are mobile. Their time in the walker is limited and always always supervised. They laugh and laugh when they are in it though, so for me whatever safety concerns are a big whatever, so long as they are supervised. I only have one walker for that reason, there would be no way to supervise two babies going in two different directions. Developmental concerns (see http://http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10533994) are of greater matter to me and why I have limited its use and have instructed Anke to do the same -- which she does. We also have the exersaucers which Betty mentioned but at this point their patience for them is limited. They want to crawl and otherwise ambulate. They do still love their doorway jumpers (which have safety concerns of their own, btw, especially when there are two of them and they are gaining momentum! I think the tub ring seats we use are also no longer available in the US (except on ebay and at yard sales which is how we -- and Betty -- got ours). Because people are stupid and irresponsible. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:08:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KD8Pee000435 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:08:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:08:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCEE0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:08:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3602488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:08:18 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KD8Iiw019379 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:08:18 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.118]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050620130818.LJRZ13701.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:08:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.118]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050620130817.EAJN11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:08:17 -0400 Message-ID: <42B6BFBF.4090905@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:08:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: <200506201250.j5KCoSOK015982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506201250.j5KCoSOK015982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Kind of like the inevitable relationship to the near-perfect spouse. > > What does V think about the upcoming fest? Is he going to participate, or is he going to hide? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:20:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDK9ee001958 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCEE05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:10:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3602589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:10:09 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDA8oR019723 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:10:08 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so669218wri for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.10.58 with SMTP id 58mr2675191wrj; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:10:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=F4IrWa0YS94BvDcKCyInzECsTyezVwjxxghE8q0FswUn699seMT5ggJvbyt4uBoACLorhRUpDLA1iAwXV1WhSDCrGEn6yVm+MGR69wEJZVsZmYMRFr5Z3DyT71LbM2sw9FovgOiFRz8fSRFCuxPbl0X3ZRMjYYnYLpGmggKj3v4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:10:08 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619195341.02b7eca0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619161852.02b7b200@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705061919442a441553@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050619195341.02b7eca0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5KDK9ee001958 On 6/19/05, Betty Clark wrote: >He starts swimming lessons next week. We took the girls swimming at their granpa's house in CT yesterday. They really loved it. We had them in floaty watermelon slice thingies. (Not Coast Guard approved). Too bad they get sick in the car or I'd definitely bring them up there more often. Pictures forthcoming. ;-) -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:20:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDK9ef001958 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCEE2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:11:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3602949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:11:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDBQLk020183 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:11:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so669754wri for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.23.8 with SMTP id 8mr1190396wrw; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:11:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LQonEUvgyBzrK5Pufa1wdeHc+zxdkRYomN/hGBpdXissbsVcW/xEriFn+vWWEWtfGqpUCDLMx+7pCuRGp+ZR2yG7CX3TLnDd5rsJ5EavTkKAgUpMl3FeqzULcYAML67evGlaMsfuqC0DQT4S5sbB8vlH7Qn7wGHsOyMvV1Jseuo= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:11:26 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5KDK9ef001958 On 6/20/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: as they are supervised. I only have one walker for that reason, there would be no way to supervise two babies going in two different directions. Developmental concerns (see http://http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10533994 ) are of greater matter to me and why I have limited its use and have instructed Anke to do the same -- which she does. Oops.. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10533994 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:20:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDK9eg001958 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCEDFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:12:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:20 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDCK3R020344 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:20 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCEE48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:12:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200506201312.j5KDCK3R020344@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:19 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: was Re: Brad Pictures, now FEST To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:22:00 -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: >Clo, most if not all of your links don't work on that page. > Marie >> >clo >> >> Oh, . >> the URL disappeared. I'll try again: >> >> web.syr.edu/~clostran/Fest.htm >> >> Oh, ! All the URLs disappeared! Try now. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:20:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDK9eh001958 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCEE37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:12:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDCh4x020434 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so6038nzk for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.6 with SMTP id h6mr2027656nzh; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:12:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ktLEsyycD4/mZKGm/z6c22ReeJpB+Lh5xyqsYSe0QPJuEXVvEoT33Pz9Gps1oYDm0JZUo4TgAktZ60ZAz33NK9kERMPJbrqo/qDhOqaop3F0xHPvji1yrzc5ShSpIISWW3QA/I2UVA6GyN0b65hYimnf6dFL2q83kOXVY517K6Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062006126eb704f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:12:43 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating In-Reply-To: <42B6BFBF.4090905@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506201250.j5KCoSOK015982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B6BFBF.4090905@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KDCi4x020436 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/20/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >Kind of like the inevitable relationship to the near-perfect spouse. > > > > > What does V think about the upcoming fest? Is he going to participate, > or is he going to hide? Nothing passive about that! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:20:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDK9ei001958 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCEE00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:12:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDCx4B020490 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so670430wri for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.24.9 with SMTP id 9mr625415wrx; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:12:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oKMY4q3W9VknewSCiq04bc4BkgAXrzlnFhkLolw5r2zfwZirMXcYWDY7+sTB/Ahxf+Pz1QsZHecaaUGFoxe/rcpeNi+cuY1TN3qIpHtkx4FKxjYcRIRD4OlmiAg1i5EhpAwD2BAtsBZ+ewF9IeIsg514/bQzg/0xf1iGtNNBpiY= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:12:58 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding In-Reply-To: <44dce1c10506200558685566d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> <44dce1c10506200558685566d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5KDK9ei001958 I like the way the woman in the black/fushia dress is looking at her like, "What the...?" Marie On 6/20/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > On 6/19/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > > Marcia was a guest at the wedding of our old friend Anders this > > weekend, together with Dan. > > > > She's that mousy little creature barely visible in the foreground. > > > > http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg > > > > Gorgeous! > I love the hat! > > Terry > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:20:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDK9ej001958 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCEE3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:13:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:13:22 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDDM8x020568 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:13:22 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.118]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050620131321.LRRA13701.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:13:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.118]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050620131321.ECQJ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:13:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42B6C0EF.40505@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:13:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: >Developmental concerns (see >http://http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10533994) >are of greater matter to me and why I have limited its use and have >instructed Anke to do the same -- which she does. > > I'm not sure what's in the above url (I clicked, but it didn't take me anywhere), but I do remember reading a long time ago about how time spent in these "walk" devices took away crawl time and that crawl time is very important in a baby's development. (I claim no expertise on the matter -- just remember reading that somewhere a long time ago and finding it reasonable sounding.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:20:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDK9ek001958 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCEE67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:16:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:16:31 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDGVQi021046 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:16:31 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCEE53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:16:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200506201316.j5KDGVQi021046@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:16:31 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Ancestors To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:55:22 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I hate it, btw, when people put charts online without sources. And I >hate that some people just take somebody else's charts and incorporate >them into their own, perpetuating errors. Looking at people's online >charts can be helpful in that sometimes you find a pointer toward >something useful that you can check out. But checking it out is much >harder if the person didn't include a source. Some old-time >genealogists lament the existence of the net with errors so easily >transmitted. But errors have been floating around in the world of >genealogy for years, including in the vaults in Salt Lake City. I think >I told y'all before about ordering some stuff from there and finding >that I was descended from Irish kings of AD 330, French nobility, the >Earl of Warwick, and various other impressive people. This all may be >true, of course. But the charts showing the lineage gave me pause -- >like the woman who gave birth before she herself was born, etc. > Rarum! It's amazing to me how stupid and wrong the info on my family is in the SL records, on points quite easily verified. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:21:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDK9el001958 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCEE55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:16:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:16:36 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDGZwQ021070 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:16:35 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.194.118]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050620131635.LWWN13701.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:16:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.194.118]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050620131634.EEFD11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:16:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42B6C1AF.8060208@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:16:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: <200506201250.j5KCoSOK015982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B6BFBF.4090905@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705062006126eb704f9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062006126eb704f9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>What does V think about the upcoming fest? Is he going to participate, >>or is he going to hide? >> >> >Nothing passive about that! > > ? Why should there be anything passive about it? It's something I meant to ask earlier but thought about when I was away from the computer. I find it interesting to hear about non-Wordsler spouses' attitudes toward Words-L. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:27:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDRMee002972 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:27:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:27:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCEE72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:27:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3604096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:27:21 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDRLT5022877 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:27:21 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCEEC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:27:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200506201327.j5KDRLT5022877@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:27:21 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: (not) travel well To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:02:47 +0900, Tanaka Akio wrote: >(not) travel well > >1) Some wines do not travel well. > >I suppose this means "some wines go bad while >transported." If so, how would you paraphrase >'not travel well' in the following paragraph? > >2) Interpersonal understanding is hampered by the fact >that culture doesn't always travel well, either in geographic >or social space. What is considered ideal in one place often >will be scorned in another. Even in the same place, ideas >and actions that pass for legitimate at one point in time will >almost inevitably eventually fall out of favor. > >(Robert L. Young: Understanding Misunderstandings, Page 100) > >Any comments will be welcome. > >Tanaka Akio In 1) I am guessing that sediments mix back into the wine when shaken by movement, and that's why they don't travel well. The shaken wine is cloudy and doesn't taste good. This is irrelevant, except that in 2)there's mixing of interpretations, so that things differently in a new environment, "clouding" the original interpretation. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:29:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDTfee003225 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:29:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:29:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCEEE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:29:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3604352 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:29:41 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDTfVb023337; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:29:41 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71358582; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:29:39 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620062111.03413a00@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:31:08 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:07 AM 6/20/2005, Marieber Meeber wrote: > We also have the exersaucers which Betty mentioned but at this point their >patience for them is limited. They want to crawl and otherwise ambulate. >They do still love their doorway jumpers (which have safety concerns of >their own, btw, especially when there are two of them and they are gaining >momentum! > I think the tub ring seats we use are also no longer available in the US >(except on ebay and at yard sales which is how we -- and Betty -- got ours). >Because people are stupid and irresponsible. > Marie Exactly. The exersaucer is short term placement. Lorinda has it in the kitchen and he is happy to be in it while she is in there preparing whatever and she can keep an eye on him. The very best recommendation I got from you, Marie, was the Bumbo chair. Have Bumbo will travel. That is short term, too, and so easy to take along. They even used it at the A's game. Plop it on the table when it is time to eat. I got to experience watching Nathaniel in the tub ring this past week end. Whoever is with him gets a bath, too! Being a grandma is really cool. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:46:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDkGee005158 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:46:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:46:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068C1AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:26:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3604017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:26:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDQFJU022776 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:26:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so518874nzp for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.24.6 with SMTP id 6mr3148147nzx; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:26:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Y1ABCpX2pc4sfhkN+FJtOeI9RDf11kaBVXxW76xiBQlrMsId9IOj7sICaZje+FXk3FabgWOFaoJsKJ0mAOSIiSnirpYbtO/CJSK3zeRyasox0/O8CPEYblwWS6hbAuy6VjD5oWK8ft+dpkVFnKwY+1ae8C0V3pPmiJB6C3ElLDQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:26:14 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (not) travel well In-Reply-To: <20050618210433.GA9849@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <013801c573d3$bebae420$6210210a@neccomputer> <6.2.1.2.0.20050618084327.01bdcb00@pop.gwi.net> <20050618210433.GA9849@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KDQFJU022781 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I would add that "culture does not travel well" is > extremely poor writing. God help me, but I actually agree with Tushykins. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:50:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDoPee005608 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:50:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:50:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCEF9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:50:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:50:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDoOSN026862 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:50:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so658378wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.143.4 with SMTP id q4mr2690770wrd; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:50:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MnjoCWcdEryrxc7VDZU0bjwPgPzZ5LZwlB3yV0M1bLsVVok2xG3yz94k4oQ9iTeWTVc6mEkpSkFP4r6jmRcfUh7bw3XM9IAVybMcyIrtRz/EEvV22WSuGEFwYh4EqrDzRsyO5uAaPvFDlOg3/QqHM9QX2GP2TkwETpKB6mZyUvw= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:50:24 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <42B6C0EF.40505@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42B6C0EF.40505@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5KDoPee005608 On 6/20/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: I'm not sure what's in the above url (I clicked, but it didn't take me anywhere), but I do remember reading a long time ago about how time spent in these "walk" devices took away crawl time and that crawl time is very important in a baby's development. (I claim no expertise on the matter -- just remember reading that somewhere a long time ago and finding it reasonable sounding.) Yeah, that's it basically. Also that the new "safer" designs (wide trays and bumper-like bases) allow the babies to get near things, but not to touch them. This not being able to interact with the thing that enticed them across the room causes some sort of disconnect. Anyway, believe me, we have our kids down on the floor all the time, no problem there! If they are a couple weeks behind walking, I don't think it'll be because of the walker which they may have spent 10 minutes a week in for a couple of weeks. Besides... I'm not READY for walking babies! Next topic: baby leashes. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:52:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDqKee005786 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:52:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:52:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCEFCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:52:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:52:19 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDqHOu027184 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:52:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so744603wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.34.4 with SMTP id h4mr2507871wrh; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:52:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AHIBEFJlF5rsf/UUhHLQvx1tekzyY4zDtWR4gYZDPSxj4aJRny7HER8b6zB4ZldvhrrnMhYFFx1kei499dOBZJAP4WGv3+RM2VLX6aTwgX2+Ns66zUxYo1ZOv0paekqx4+h6Skq7Ff1cR4ztE5QZaQqLfoHF6YyCcUw6dUDmKhk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:52:16 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> <44dce1c10506200558685566d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5KDqKee005786 I noticed that woman too. I interpreted the look as bemused affection. --bonniev I like the way the woman in the black/fushia dress is looking at her like, > "What the...?" --Marie > > > > http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 08:52:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KDqMee005792 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:52:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:52:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCEFD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 9:52:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:52:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KDqLu8027219 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:52:21 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so689369wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.64 with SMTP id o64mr2684478wro; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:52:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NKWovBSjKVUPYHfSjrzyiLC1A1OLluja1y1GVkroQCtmbu4ngZ6BjL2GpAY/ZK5TFQROQOrUbKvVuIkfJ+OvSs++k2ON+MgiwdgV6BgIubP9hr081auClBb53nxTHdW4t4FBsYk/kGoL8v4bp0srwIT+H1qzTdNKpk706iaPTXA= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:52:21 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620062111.03413a00@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620062111.03413a00@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5KDqMee005792 On 6/20/05, Betty Clark wrote: >got from you, Marie, was the Bumbo chair. Have Bumbo will travel. That is >short term, too, and so easy to take along. They even used it at the A's >game. Plop it on the table when it is time to eat. BTW, is he pulling up to stand? -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 09:14:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KEEQee008189 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:14:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:14:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCF0A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:14:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:14:07 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KEE7hE000639 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:14:07 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCF0F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:14:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200506201414.j5KEE7hE000639@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:14:07 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A wedding To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:52:16 -0400, bonniemaev wrote: > I noticed that woman too. I interpreted the look as bemused affection. >--bonniev > >I like the way the woman in the black/fushia dress is looking at her like, >> "What the...?" --Marie >> >> > > http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg >> >> I interpreted it as "ooh, a picture, let me pose w/ my mouth shut and my good side facing the camera!" I love Marcia's outfit - clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 09:14:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KEEQee008190 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:14:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:14:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCF072@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:04:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3608173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:04:25 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KE4LE4030629; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:04:21 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71366387; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:04:21 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620070202.034097f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:05:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620062111.03413a00@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:52 AM 6/20/2005, Marieber Meeber wrote: >On 6/20/05, Betty Clark wrote: > >got from you, Marie, was the Bumbo chair. Have Bumbo will travel. That is > >short term, too, and so easy to take along. They even used it at the A's > >game. Plop it on the table when it is time to eat. > BTW, is he pulling up to stand? Yes! Within two weeks he went from the military stomach crawl to regular crawl to almost standing on his own. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 09:15:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KEFWee008366 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:15:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:15:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068C2F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:05:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3608232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:05:31 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KE5VDU030862 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:05:31 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068C1E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:05:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200506201405.j5KE5VDU030862@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:05:30 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Frustrating To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:08:15 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>Kind of like the inevitable relationship to the near-perfect spouse. >> >> >What does V think about the upcoming fest? Is he going to participate, >or is he going to hide? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) For the most part, he's enthusiastic. He likes to grill, and to show off our home. But his tolerance for gatherings is limited, and he may well disappear for stretches of time. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 09:32:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KEWaee010695 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:32:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:32:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068C27A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:22:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:22:35 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KEMXJS002341; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:22:34 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71370938; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:22:33 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620072301.0341beb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:24:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A wedding In-Reply-To: <200506201414.j5KEE7hE000639@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506201414.j5KEE7hE000639@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:14 AM 6/20/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >I like the way the woman in the black/fushia dress is looking at her like, > >> "What the...?" --Marie > >> > >> > > http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg > >> > >> > >I interpreted it as "ooh, a picture, let me pose w/ my mouth shut >and my good side facing the camera!" > >I love Marcia's outfit - >clo And she looks radiantly happy. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 09:54:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KErcee013064 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:53:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:54:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCF1E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:43:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3611911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:43:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KEhbm5006727 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:43:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so551336nzp for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.23.9 with SMTP id 9mr3206493nzw; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:43:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e3FgSqMrCRGTIOlYliODhF/kzw6GNjJPHxjivhgPxELeprnRFYE1Us1t+XXqCfofP2Vuvi2ptEGYr6Y0E9DlHhBxWvZ0pxSjzBgfhGRse128atlupvycEL7KDJBupvpwDmDZuIAnp5WDbeKjA+mWMy2BMm6At4xuBle65DWVpRk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:43:36 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding In-Reply-To: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KEhbm5006728 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > She's that mousy little creature barely visible in the foreground. > http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg *gasp* She's gorgeous! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 09:54:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KErcee013067 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:53:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:54:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCF1E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:43:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3611950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:43:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KEhrDA006808 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:43:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so862345nzp for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr2630142nzb; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:43:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G5q/8yrwa8W8/FyMZPzaAHVA/8Iemd2K0mPtxr/jRyF3fp8AXyOI8ZxFnqeyFVW5bkmhNDN6ww9CX+f8CJ0bF4rutAt2dBN/pUnk8A2xtLJw2Lrjm0iuBWRktkz80g2BBKFSNiTWJFYPtxM16t40qQRwz3FZvoXvP1aYx1RMy58= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050620074316137a2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:43:53 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619161852.02b7b200@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705061919442a441553@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050619195341.02b7eca0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KEhrDA006809 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/20/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > On 6/19/05, Betty Clark wrote: > >He starts swimming lessons next week. > We took the girls swimming at their granpa's house in CT yesterday. > They really loved it. We had them in floaty watermelon slice thingies. > (Not Coast Guard approved). Too bad they get sick in the car or I'd > definitely bring them up there more often. > Pictures forthcoming. ;-) Of them getting sick in the car?:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 09:54:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KErcee013066 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:53:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:54:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCF231@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:45:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3612112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:45:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KEjGnm007218 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:45:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so2158nzo for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.5 with SMTP id d5mr293921nzc; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:45:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=chqnKEiZo5n/byJbBYcBAL+1Hlr1bJdcbbgL9gavcXtv2DcQvXiz5m0udA2zBPZFj7e32EBNlJGenCDbIer6eqO21Z2+RzaWiRkJFLs+NUpErGWdRqe7dZKCrn8QyrSPes3MyDhS7TPDwPMkas1Yp6hV5+vtsKs8OVcG0/sKXzw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062007456c512eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:45:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating In-Reply-To: <42B6C1AF.8060208@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506201250.j5KCoSOK015982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B6BFBF.4090905@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705062006126eb704f9@mail.gmail.com> <42B6C1AF.8060208@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KEjGnm007219 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/20/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>What does V think about the upcoming fest? Is he going to participate, > >>or is he going to hide? > >> > >> > >Nothing passive about that! > > > > > ? Why should there be anything passive about it? There shouldn't. > It's something I > meant to ask earlier but thought about when I was away from the > computer. I find it interesting to hear about non-Wordsler spouses' > attitudes toward Words-L. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 10:44:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KFiDee018561 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:44:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:44:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCF526@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:44:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3618343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:44:13 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KFiCqu018873 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:44:13 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71392245 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:44:12 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620084515.033f78c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:45:41 -0700 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Nathaniel last week Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Two photos http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c586252.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:37:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KGbOee024699 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:37:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:37:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCF722@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:37:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3622890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:37:23 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KGbGdv026957 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:37:16 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 105AC820FE4C7 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:37:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00f001c575b6$47226020$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620084515.033f78c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:36:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Clark" To: Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: Nathaniel last week > Two photos > > http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c586252.html Pretty cute, Grandma. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:37:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KGbQee024703 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:37:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:37:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCF723@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:37:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3622900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:37:25 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KGbPR1026980 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:37:25 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050620163725m92008i8t1e>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:37:25 +0000 Message-ID: <017f01c575b6$58610c60$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000b01c57415$f12eab70$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <1599125681.20050618203317@gailndan.com> <019b01c57506$7b9ce2e0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <88994855.20050619191542@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Credit Cards Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:37:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: You assume correctly. BTW, I eventually got the card. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:15 PM Subject: Re: Credit Cards > 6/19/2005, 1:38 PM, David Guy Fetzer wrote: > > DGF> Never mind checks stolen. How about having a new > DGF> credit card itself stolen > DGF> in the mail? It happened to me and if I hadn't > DGF> gotten suspicious about what > DGF> was taking so long for it to arrive I might never > DGF> have known. > > Guess you would have known when the bills came. Assume it was all > covered, since you never got or signed the card. > > We didn't know about the checks stolen for a month, when the things > they paid started to send overdue notices. > > dan > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:47:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KGlLee025578 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:47:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:47:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068C761@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:47:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3623507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:47:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KGlK5J028138 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:47:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so82561nzp for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.18 with SMTP id w18mr3263021nzg; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:47:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FYhPVXjm34/ADeMvNKvCc+aNJlDKaMfUhnwcLYPp0jmJ+Esyob4SwnNgil7ryfOvv0WfGVnts3AgC0Q6fPniKsnxrRMa/mO5qvR2/XKt/qDOlyj80/nQymwt7AaeSYL0Xz5InBcTv8g20lzO5YulL+HQ4kt+AVOOObGfMtIKVGQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062009471562f088@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:47:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620084515.033f78c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620084515.033f78c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KGlK5J028139 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I love the pants! On 6/20/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Two photos > > http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c586252.html > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:49:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KGngee025907 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:49:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:49:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCF7D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:49:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3623738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:49:42 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KGnggn028576 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:49:42 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:49:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:49:33 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great pictures! He has a very grown up looking face. I'll bet he'll be one of those people whose face looks essentially the same at 20, 50, and 90. BrP >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 6/20/2005 11:45:41 AM >>> Two photos http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c586252.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:53:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KGrhee026475 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:53:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:53:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068C784@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:53:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3624141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:53:43 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KGrgU7029345 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:53:42 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5KGrfiN001334 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:53:41 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5KGrfa1001332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:53:41 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:53:41 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding Message-ID: <20050620165341.GA1288@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> <44dce1c10506200558685566d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thought she looked gelous! On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 10:12:58AM -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: = I like the way the woman in the black/fushia dress is looking at her like, = "What the...?" = Marie = = On 6/20/05, Terry Wild wrote: = > = > On 6/19/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: = > > Marcia was a guest at the wedding of our old friend Anders this = > > weekend, together with Dan. = > > = > > She's that mousy little creature barely visible in the foreground. = > > = > > http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg = > > = > = > Gorgeous! = > I love the hat! = > = > Terry = > = = = = -- = Marie = marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:54:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KGs7ee026564 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:54:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:54:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCF7B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:54:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3624187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:54:07 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KGs6rb029405 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:54:07 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so90775wri for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.72 with SMTP id 72mr2792550wrz; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:54:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FyK9x0AFILCz3BYo8ZJ8Oj4BmWFRvzvg6F5+MliXvf1x2BTIjhAz0g1AybFVsImt6yrKPEMf6Kj5z8XnIpdHMq2B4/i7nSFVtyFc14G+ZCEsaewtiD0K3b57MoxvDFbo8YsKHH5S5YEOUZ38kmWH9pT7ZD5s+Xf5L4da0zhQIOI= Message-ID: <8865866a05062009546ac1c8c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:54:06 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KGs7rb029409 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/20/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > She's that mousy little creature barely visible in the foreground. > > http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg > > *gasp* She's gorgeous! > > Ben > Oh my! <*blush*> I sent that picture to Torkel to show him the outfit. He hadn't see it all together. I didn't expect him to send a link to you guys. Thank you for all the compliments, though! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:55:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KGtree026695 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:55:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:55:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068C68E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:55:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3624403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:55:52 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KGtqa9029742 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:55:52 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so785551wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.112.2 with SMTP id k2mr2787082wrc; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:55:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DE9pBFAR0SbouWNO+doq4hNF+HaSkMcUuBV4kPUZnmc/+ic3It+93xtx8mX4xzNVZKShmM1KPqMdyPPKWkJC2E/TxyAQn21P6N270v2h/Yn3XchTRqYQKY1X7GBrPnt5vhxwwxVGIbVBtDhR0+461JRZMdNO6IgzT+/GwtiptD4= Message-ID: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:55:50 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KGtqa9029748 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 6/20/2005 11:45:41 AM >>> > Two photos > > http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c586252.html > Very cute! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 11:57:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KGvnee026949 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:57:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:57:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068C856@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:57:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3624590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:57:49 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KGvnac030021 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:57:49 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so92954wri for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.51.26 with SMTP id y26mr2800607wry; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:57:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HCc9Py4Zoq5+0RAfRSMcpS2QTgEXyFSh3Kwm4kvgwus+jegcyCJfCPxmx1cMHNA/T5SOVX3SUKBIJXJk4SkJFTyl1Z68TpvQ3KTEgr4kpXkW9lWA8DU3gfiqtOQ083K1nJ5CLzOxledqa7lQ++ChPZnP1op+gdBoVcdjGmeQZGA= Message-ID: <8865866a05062009573b73d7b6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:57:47 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050620074316137a2b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050619161852.02b7b200@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705061919442a441553@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050619195341.02b7eca0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a7050620074316137a2b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KGvnac030022 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Finally got a chance to look at the pictures. I love their hair color. I'm gelous!! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:07:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KH7Dee028024 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:07:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:07:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCF893@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:07:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3625367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:07:12 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KH7C2O031442 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:07:12 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23572628 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:07:29 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:07:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2710264699.20050620110710@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Frustrating In-Reply-To: <200506201250.j5KCoSOK015982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506201250.j5KCoSOK015982@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 232, in=83724, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/20/2005, 6:50 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: CO> I can't get a copy of "You Are What You Eat" either. The book? The TV show on video? Something else? The book is available from Amazon.uk and in stock. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:41:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KHfMee030790 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:41:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:41:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCF8E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:22:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3626654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:22:56 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KHMtqb001397 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:22:55 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:22:55 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:22:22 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: I wonder... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ..if my son knows about this new tv show ? http://abc.go.com/primetime/bratcamp/ BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:41:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KHfMee030787 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:41:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:41:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCF8A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3625665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:20 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KHBGPl032081 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23507165 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:21:45 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:11:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:11:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1162684309.20050620111114@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Pictures In-Reply-To: References: <42B6C0EF.40505@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 234, in=97593, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/20/2005, 7:50 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: MM> Besides... I'm not READY for walking babies! MM> Next topic: baby leashes. Not unreasonable. I survived one as a little one. Mom had little sister in a stroller (1.5 years younger than me) and me on a leash (no, not with a choke collar, but with a little harness thing around chest). Never did that with my kids, but since they were all six years apart from each other, wasn't an issue in same way. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:41:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KHfMee030791 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:41:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:41:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCF93D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:31:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3627376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:31:52 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KHVq0X002836 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:31:52 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so804243wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.98.17 with SMTP id v17mr2808807wrb; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:31:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fSdBYzhk6HgtfV6EHs6i6aCFoi+kA3k/8lAPte2SZQ8c82ePZxq4M6Qat8Vbs3t+KFDhg8Kk9pb48ru6WG4Zdu+tTAWA02uwF0gujoDBR1bp+twNj76by9W+DpwJLa4ZBvfg/N3ffQRe0/q2m+cFboWOE2ErFcMwWReO3QhWKzo= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:31:52 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <42B4E97C.706@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42B4E97C.706@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5KHfMee030791 On 6/19/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: ! What are the plans for their upcoming birthday? A party with family, a couple friends and select neighbors. We are also having the leader from the local Ethical Society come and do something of a "baby welcoming". Details are yet blurry. Party itself will be on the afternoon of Saturday August 6. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:41:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KHfMee030789 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:41:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:41:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCF960@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:29:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3627165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:29:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KHT9jS002380 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:29:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so802668wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.112.2 with SMTP id k2mr2806636wrc; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:29:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=J84fhRXb7iWF/tWT6ueCmt9lxugX6P1X8tUwGH+LgRutoPh+6t4noIYB6SSOMLEyjz7leyZuWsyft4nWkJ51Ia/aEv7gMcvg6csn9zJ1zgC4DzXl7h+ndfL8VuMnRC60qxcMib+2Oubz+mNtoKpU1DSmpS5qQxGZj6FEgQdPUYQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:29:06 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5KHfMee030789 "Hubba hubba!" say M&J. BTW, now that fotopic is putting ads on our sites, why on earth do you think mine are for, "CatholicDaters.com ", " CatholicSingles.com " and "Catholicmatch.com "??? Marie On 6/20/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 6/20/2005 11:45:41 AM >>> > > Two photos > > > > http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c586252.html > > > > > Very cute! > > Marcia > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 12:49:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KHmvee031648 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:48:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:49:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCF9D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3628617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:50 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KHmnva005459 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:49 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:49 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:38 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Frustrating Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU btw - this reminds me We may have an additional FOWL or two. Brian's going to be home from the woods for the weekend. He said there was a good chance he'd join the party for at least a little bit. He may bring a friend. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 6/20/2005 9:08:15 AM >>> What does V think about the upcoming fest? Is he going to participate, or is he going to hide? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 13:06:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KI6Cee000748 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:06:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:06:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCFA81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:06:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3629519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:06:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KI6Bua007876 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:06:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so148635nzo for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.16 with SMTP id m16mr630791nzm; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:06:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MmqX+1srcZz2oZttoTuy8KX0E9+QrqD321arjjynxjUfOyrLn80SPRh9vABS6XxOYHIZJGGhEA8KSyrVAu9Msb7haj1Xwb44Xlgq5lepxf/RwbScTcC5GuPU81HJCLnOhIveOpBPKXbQRnIl5vSzwOVgkIo70OPE93Y1taW8MiQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062011065b92e9da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:06:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wonder... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KI6Bua007877 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU he could write for it.:) On 6/20/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > ..if my son knows about this new tv show ? > > http://abc.go.com/primetime/bratcamp/ > > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 13:07:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KI7cee000918 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:07:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:07:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCFAA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:07:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3629627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:07:37 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KI7bVe008159 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:07:37 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so251087rnf for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.51 with SMTP id n51mr1372632rna; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BznqH82TpNYn+Qbg1XXetokWXdAsTEuUdiAZayPfBmMC+I4Sr55zyJgJmU5tWRYgB4rUjswaeAvFIrOVicCSODtoBWvugchh1ElodHlZt6iG7Zz7w/Cm8s6HgH66CoZ/1EFG4+XARkdlsfKvP3ZuLuIf/60tMUYMo9yRXGMkxyc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:07:36 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KI7bVe008164 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/20/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > "Hubba hubba!" say M&J. > BTW, now that fotopic is putting ads on our sites, why on earth do you > think mine are for, "CatholicDaters.com ", " > CatholicSingles.com " and > "Catholicmatch.com > "??? > Marie Probably most people named Marie are Catholic. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 13:11:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KIAsee001278 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:10:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:10:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCFABC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:10:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3630588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:10:53 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KIAS5i008866 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:10:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCFB0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:10:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200506201810.j5KIAS5i008866@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:10:28 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Frustrating To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:07:10 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >6/20/2005, 6:50 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >CO> I can't get a copy of "You Are What You Eat" either. > >The book? The TV show on video? Something else? > >The book is available from Amazon.uk and in stock. > The soundtrack of the '60s underground film, YAWYE From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 13:17:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KIHCee002085 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:17:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:17:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCFAFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:17:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3631193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:17:12 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KIHCh1010177 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:17:12 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so252361rnf for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.88.14 with SMTP id l14mr2299267rnb; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:17:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lNgvwd2358qO3k7f0ShPewuinUlD/NZlboP4aUfOgylb+3u/cuOqhIflmT0GN0Ac1NffIP29qhED6cpsCxi1RZh3AwtRgGwGzg1ThD1g40oM4kj10Nd1e5t54QgbLd1jQqIQyQf8EB1LWE6tci0Ujck62cGytAsSIZE6yBFxPjk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:17:11 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5KIHCh1010178 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Probably most people named Marie are Catholic. Hmmm... but then probably most people named Ascher are Jewish. Even more hmmm... my http://tonyh.fotopic.net/ has a layout quite different from yours. I haven't uploaded anything for a long time, but the ads are smaller and at the bottom, and are for web photo related stuff only. I suppose this is the Power of Google doing its thing. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 13:19:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KIJZee002296 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:19:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:19:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCFB5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:19:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3631380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:19:35 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KIJPdb010615 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:19:25 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCFB4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:19:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:19:25 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:45:41 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >Two photos > >http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c586252.html HA! Only two? He's so cute! I like that the book is one of the "What to Expect when You're Expecting" series ... likely the one after that. :). Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 13:55:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KIsvee005921 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:54:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:55:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FCFC34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:54:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3633848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:54:56 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KIstCL015543 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:54:56 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5KIstnp001975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:54:55 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5KIss7O001973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:54:54 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:54:54 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week Message-ID: <20050620185454.GA1952@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Even more hmmm... my http://tonyh.fotopic.net/ has a layout quite = different from yours. I haven't uploaded anything for a long time, but = the ads are smaller and at the bottom, and are for web photo related = stuff only. = And now they're for calendars and software and calulators From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 14:35:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KJZJee011515 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:35:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:35:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FCFE10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:35:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3637302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:35:19 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KJZIff022338 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:35:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22571089 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:16:56 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:35:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:35:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <710637322.20050620133515@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: References: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: **: 2.900000 Viagra not hidden=1.0,Mentions viagra=1.9 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 230, in=81663, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Uhhhh....probably because you're just lucky....just like I get the ads for boob enlargements and you undoubtedly get them for viagra. Of course it might be a conspiracy inspired by the new Pope to get people converted and married and such.....not that you need help. dan 6/20/2005, 11:29 AM, Marieber Meeber wrote: MM> "Hubba hubba!" say M&J. MM> BTW, now that fotopic is putting ads on our sites, why on earth do you MM> think mine are for, "CatholicDaters.com MM> ", " MM> CatholicSingles.com " and MM> "Catholicmatch.com MM> "??? MM> Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 14:38:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5KJc8ee011749 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:38:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:38:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FCFE15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:38:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3637494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:38:08 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5KJc616022888 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:38:07 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23523417 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:48:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:38:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:38:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <15010357403.20050620133803@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Frustrating In-Reply-To: <200506201810.j5KIAS5i008866@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506201810.j5KIAS5i008866@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 235, in=97721, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/20/2005, 12:10 PM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: CO> The soundtrack of the '60s underground film, YAWYE Ahhhh....missed that one. Just checked it out on IMDB. Could be fun to see once, at least. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 19:24:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L0Obee011121 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:24:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:24:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD06B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:24:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3655623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:24:37 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5L0EawH025532 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:14:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 88138 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 00:14:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:14:35 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (not) travel well Message-ID: <20050621001435.GA85051@words-l.org> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <013801c573d3$bebae420$6210210a@neccomputer> <6.2.1.2.0.20050618084327.01bdcb00@pop.gwi.net> <20050618210433.GA9849@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:26:14AM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > I would add that "culture does not travel well" is > > extremely poor writing. > > God help me, but I actually agree with Tushykins. > > Ben Thank you Bennett my man. However, you will agree that all the Harpers and Conde Nasts you read overflow with sentences like this ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 19:26:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L0Q8ee011202 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:26:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:26:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD06BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:26:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3655719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:26:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5L0G6Vo025778 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:16:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 89044 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 00:16:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:16:06 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (not) travel well Message-ID: <20050621001606.GB85051@words-l.org> References: <200506201327.j5KDRLT5022877@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506201327.j5KDRLT5022877@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:27:21AM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:02:47 +0900, Tanaka Akio > wrote: > > >(not) travel well > > > >1) Some wines do not travel well. > > > >I suppose this means "some wines go bad while > >transported." If so, how would you paraphrase > >'not travel well' in the following paragraph? > > > >2) Interpersonal understanding is hampered by the fact > >that culture doesn't always travel well, either in geographic > >or social space. What is considered ideal in one place often > >will be scorned in another. Even in the same place, ideas > >and actions that pass for legitimate at one point in time will > >almost inevitably eventually fall out of favor. > > > >(Robert L. Young: Understanding Misunderstandings, Page 100) > > > >Any comments will be welcome. > > > >Tanaka Akio > > In 1) I am guessing that sediments mix back into the wine when shaken > by movement, and that's why they don't travel well. The shaken wine > is cloudy and doesn't taste good. > > This is irrelevant, except that in 2)there's mixing of interpretations, > so that things differently in a new > environment, "clouding" the original interpretation. This explanation has done so much to make me understand my misunderstandings! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 19:33:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L0Wmee011947 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:32:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:33:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD06CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:32:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3656130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:32:48 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L0WmYc028287 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:32:48 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005062100324501200fbfl8e>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:32:45 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: ATTN: Dan Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:32:36 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan, 30 list messages failed to be delivered to you since yesterday, and my private email informing you of that just bounced with a DNS error. I'll let it go for a while but if it continues to error tomorrow I may put you on nomail. --Adam go home, folks, nothing to see here. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 19:34:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L0YKee012133 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:34:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:34:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD0710@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:34:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3655932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:34:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5L0OJTQ026776 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:24:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 93178 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 00:24:18 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:24:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week Message-ID: <20050621002418.GC85051@words-l.org> References: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 02:17:11PM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > > Probably most people named Marie are Catholic. > > Hmmm... but then probably most people named Ascher are Jewish. Therefore, people named Marie Ascher are not single ... Therefore--uh, no idea what that proves. But I LOVE what Google does with anything at all ... they are just so, I don't know, great! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 19:37:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L0bhee012561 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:37:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:37:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD06D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:37:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3655986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:37:42 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5L0RfPh027344 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:27:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 94485 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 00:27:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:27:41 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding Message-ID: <20050621002741.GD85051@words-l.org> References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> <44dce1c10506200558685566d@mail.gmail.com> <20050620165341.GA1288@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050620165341.GA1288@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Maybe she is not hostile at all--which would obviate the need for the old "just jealous" defence ... On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 06:53:41PM +0200, steph wrote: > I thought she looked gelous! > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 10:12:58AM -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: > = I like the way the woman in the black/fushia dress is looking at her like, > = "What the...?" > = Marie > = > = On 6/20/05, Terry Wild wrote: > = > > = > On 6/19/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > = > > Marcia was a guest at the wedding of our old friend Anders this > = > > weekend, together with Dan. > = > > > = > > She's that mousy little creature barely visible in the foreground. > = > > > = > > http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg > = > > > = > > = > Gorgeous! > = > I love the hat! > = > > = > Terry > = > > = > = > = > = -- > = Marie > = marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 19:50:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L0ojee013987 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:50:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:50:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD0752@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:50:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3656713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:50:45 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L0oisH029649 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:50:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so277915wri for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.5.9 with SMTP id 9mr3003768wre; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:50:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CEAeQc9mSuHUX3u/NoXFx9KFdDS1ZCAiASysLqGrRxhiSkB3Gbsr0Sb5bJ7k7ikWiYjOB+Bj8eMfxtSsQh4br8QoerCW+ol2ZWw2dCZzGz3AUZmo36bLXm+OAJ0S+wT04Sr1OUrAth9rqf7aGSYLhEnzhP2ICx0Zr0XdHHasYUM= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:50:44 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding In-Reply-To: <20050621002741.GD85051@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> <44dce1c10506200558685566d@mail.gmail.com> <20050620165341.GA1288@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050621002741.GD85051@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5L0ojee013987 I don't think she's hostile. More like bemused. I don't think she'd ever wear that hat. Not that there's anything wrong with it... Marie On 6/20/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Maybe she is not hostile at all--which would obviate the > need for the old "just jealous" defence ... > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 06:53:41PM +0200, steph wrote: > > I thought she looked gelous! > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 10:12:58AM -0300, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > = I like the way the woman in the black/fushia dress is looking at her > like, > > = "What the...?" > > = Marie > > = > > = On 6/20/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > = > > > = > On 6/19/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > > = > > Marcia was a guest at the wedding of our old friend Anders this > > = > > weekend, together with Dan. > > = > > > > = > > She's that mousy little creature barely visible in the foreground. > > = > > > > = > > http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/marciawedding.jpg > > = > > > > = > > > = > Gorgeous! > > = > I love the hat! > > = > > > = > Terry > > = > > > = > > = > > = > > = -- > > = Marie > > = marieber@gmail.com > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 20:17:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L1Hbee016898 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:17:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:17:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD077B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:17:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3657479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:17:36 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L1HZVP031987 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:17:35 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.133]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621011735.ZSFA10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:17:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.133]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621011735.VRZV25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:17:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42B76AAB.8000208@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:17:31 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <42B6C0EF.40505@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: > Anyway, believe me, we have our kids down on the floor all the time, no >problem there! If they are a couple weeks behind walking, I don't think >it'll be because of the walker which they may have spent 10 minutes a week >in for a couple of weeks. > > Again a major disclaimer in that I know zilch about all this, but I don't think that being late in starting to walk is necessarily a problem and is not what I think I remember reading re the importance of crawl time. Iow, I don't think the importance of is about how early they walk I think it's about other things -- don't ask me what -- and a reminder of my disclaimer above. > Next topic: baby leashes. > > A good friend of mine, now dead -- we've talked about her before -- a dear friend and great person -- said that she leashed her son -- this would've been something like early '50s, I guess. What she said about the why made very good sense. They were living in Washington, DC, at the time, and she said it was much easier to keep up with him in crowds. I am confident that his turning out to be a druggie whose wife left him is in no way related to his leash experiences. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 20:28:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L1SQee017754 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:28:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:28:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD07E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:28:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3657824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:28:26 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L1SPtZ000670 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:28:25 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.133]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621012825.ZYNG10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:28:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.133]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621012825.VVIL25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:28:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42B76D36.2090303@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:28:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: <200506201405.j5KE5VDU030862@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506201405.j5KE5VDU030862@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >For the most part, he's enthusiastic. He likes to grill, and to show >off our home. But his tolerance for gatherings is limited, and he may >well disappear for stretches of time. > > That all sounds good. It strikes me as quite for him to feel a need to disappear for stretches of time. I suddenly realized that fest time is ALMOST HERE. I had somehow thought it was much farther away. But a Spencer condition made me study the calendar and catch on that I've leaving for Syracuse next week. The condition was that Spencer was walking on three legs much of yesterday. So he spent much of today at the vet, since when I called this morning they said it would be easier if I could just leave him for the day. Anyway, I realized at some point this afternoon that Spencer will be returning there soon for his July 4 vacation. I'd really reather have him spend it at Furrbabies. I considered looping through Starkville and doing that. Re his leg: the vet thinks that he has a weak knee ligament from an earlier injury and that it may break at some point, meaning he would have to have surgery, but that for now treating it with medicine is the thing to do. So he came home with a couple of huge bottles of medicines. The vet said that he has "fine-looking hips" -- that no hip weakness is involved. He showed me the x-rays on a screen of Spencer's innards -- sort of like in movies when doctors show patients x-rays. So $275 later, all is ok. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 20:40:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L1eGee019220 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:40:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:40:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD07AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3657914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L1VQND001121 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.133]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621013126.AXZ10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:31:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.133]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621013125.VWSI25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:31:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42B76DEB.1090304@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:31:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620084515.033f78c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620084515.033f78c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c586252.html He looks even older now than he did a few weeks ago! Hmm, I guess he is. :-) Anyway, great pictures. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 20:40:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L1eFee019219 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:40:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:40:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD07FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:30:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3657894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:30:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L1UEZW000981 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:30:15 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so289425wri for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.19 with SMTP id i19mr3039581wri; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:30:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=twtNMvaeFThCNeMO997vibj0RugjCoo9aAmbw95t6rIoz72U2lg6bq17TRSguTozit+C1i1BOBOxgxaUXAZOh2Y6DuSVVlZyi8+mYwX1Zbq4NmQLiGKbSdTP5MN/akTmdtrFuxItgjatUAW5LC8jOMF1m9r7ODF3aDm5f1zjnsY= Message-ID: <83db447a0506201830787798d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:30:14 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ATTN: Dan In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5L1eFee019219 On 6/20/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Dan, 30 list messages failed to be delivered to you since yesterday, and > my > private email informing you of that just bounced with a DNS error. I'll > let > it go for a while but if it continues to error tomorrow I may put you on > nomail. > > --Adam > go home, folks, nothing to see here. > Yeah--just string the yellow tape... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 20:45:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L1jEee019681 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:45:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:45:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068D1DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3658355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:07 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L1j6sI002807 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:06 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.133]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621014506.XYFR2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.133]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621014506.SVSF8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42B7711F.30502@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:45:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <42B4E97C.706@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: > A party with family, a couple friends and select neighbors. We are also >having the >leader from the local Ethical Society come and do something of a "baby >welcoming". >Details are yet blurry. Party itself will be on the afternoon of Saturday >August 6. > > That all sounds fun! And, as I think I said a month or so ago, I bet you're glad it's this time this year instead of this time last year. Re the Ethical Society, I need to do some research on it. The little bit I know of it makes it sound very much like the UU Church -- same general philosophy/attitudes toward life. My guess is that a difference may be that UUs in general are more into . But I'm not really sure. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 20:55:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L1tlee020887 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:55:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:55:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068D1DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3658370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:47 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L1jlKt002891 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:47 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.133]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621014546.XYMH2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.133]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621014546.SVWV8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42B77147.5070601@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:45:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >btw - this reminds me >We may have an additional FOWL or two. > >Brian's going to be home from the woods for the weekend. He said there >was a good chance he'd join the party for at least a little bit. >He may bring a friend. > > NEATO! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 21:09:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L28kee022599 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:08:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:08:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD0862@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:59:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3658786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:59:16 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L1xGBW004679 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:59:16 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.133]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621015916.YFMS2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:59:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.133]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621015916.TAFL8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:59:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42B77471.9090201@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:59:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ATTN: Dan References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >go home, folks, nothing to see here. > > Carnage! We are all gathering at the carnage! But I must be very much behind since I'd thought Dan was replying to recent mail pretty recently. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 21:09:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L28kee022600 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:08:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:08:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD07EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:49:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3658458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:49:11 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L1nB25003063 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:49:11 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.133]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621014911.YADA2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:49:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.133]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621014910.SXAS8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:49:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42B77214.5060508@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:49:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week References: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >Probably most people named Marie are Catholic. > > Really? That seems weird to me. In trying to tote up in my head the Maries I've known in life, I am thinking that very few are Catholic. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 21:09:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L28kee022601 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:08:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:09:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD0804@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:55:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3658671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:55:27 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L1tQw2003964 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:55:26 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.133]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621015526.YDSX2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:55:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.133]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621015525.SZAW8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:55:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42B7738A.5040009@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:55:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week References: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >Even more hmmm... my http://tonyh.fotopic.net/ has a layout quite > > Wonderful pictures! And those babies are no longer babies! Please send urls more often. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 21:09:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L28kee022597 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:08:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:09:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD0828@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:48:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3658179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:48:45 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5L1ciZB002140 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:38:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 32310 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 01:38:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:38:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding Message-ID: <20050621013844.GA31425@words-l.org> References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> <44dce1c10506200558685566d@mail.gmail.com> <20050620165341.GA1288@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050621002741.GD85051@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:50:44PM -0400, Marieber Meeber wrote: > I don't think she's hostile. More like bemused. I don't think she'd ever > wear that hat. I know. But does "Steph" know? And what's with the word "bemused", man. Who started it? Sounds like how everyone was saying "facetious" a few years ago. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 21:24:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L2OOee025264 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:24:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:24:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD08C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:24:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3659642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:24:23 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L2ONvq006768 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:24:23 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.133]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621022423.YTZM2220.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:24:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.133]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621022423.TITG8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:24:23 -0400 Message-ID: <42B77A54.8070807@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:24:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Where's Evelyn? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why has Evelyn deserted us? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 21:37:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L2b3ee026732 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:37:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:37:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD0882@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:27:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3659459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:27:03 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5L2H2te006205 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:17:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 54162 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 02:17:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:17:01 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures Message-ID: <20050621021701.GA50213@words-l.org> References: <42B6C0EF.40505@maynor.net> <42B76AAB.8000208@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B76AAB.8000208@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:17:31PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A good friend of mine, now dead -- we've talked about her before -- a > dear friend and great person -- said that she leashed her son -- this > would've been something like early '50s, I guess. What she said about > the why made very good sense. They were living in Washington, DC, at > the time, and she said it was much easier to keep up with him in > crowds. I am confident that his turning out to be a druggie whose wife > left him is in no way related to his leash experiences. It has everything to do with it--he was deprived of the "I was abandoned by my parents" memory. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 21:37:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L2b4ee026735 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:37:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:37:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD0887@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:29:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3659765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:29:29 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L2TSP7007198 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:29:28 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 113827556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:29:27 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:30:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:19 AM 6/20/2005, you wrote: >On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:45:41 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > >Two photos > > > >http://bettyclark.fotopic.net/c586252.html > >HA! Only two? I have tons more in Picasa which is easier and faster to deal with. >He's so cute! > >I like that the book is one of the "What to Expect when You're Expecting" >series ... likely the one after that. :). > >Amy Thanks, everyone. Yes, I think they had both of those books. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 21:39:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L2dEee026935 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:39:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:39:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD08FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:39:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3660099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:39:14 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L2dDEw007887 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:39:13 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.153.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621023913.LLWM2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:39:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.153.133]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621023913.XFUO4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:39:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:39:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I have tons more in Picasa which is easier and faster to deal with. How does Picasa work? I found Fotopic inconvenient the first and only time I used it. I normally just put pictures online in my own web space. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 22:12:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L3Caee030989 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:12:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:12:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD0BA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:12:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3662840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:12:36 -0400 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L32Z20010294 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:02:35 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.12b.5f70e359 (25098) for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:02:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <12b.5f70e359.2fe8dd46@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:02:30 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn's trying to get Blind Justice renewed. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 22:42:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L3gOee001001 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:42:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:42:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD0D3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:42:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3668826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:42:23 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L3gNBU014835 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:42:23 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 113843734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:42:22 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620202302.0298ad70@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:43:44 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:39 PM 6/20/2005, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>I have tons more in Picasa which is easier and faster to deal with. > >How does Picasa work? I found Fotopic inconvenient the first and only >time I used it. I normally just put pictures online in my own web space. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I think you would like Picasa2 very much. It's very easy to e-mail photos and it automatically reduces them in size when you do. You can also ftp them. That is how I did this: http://home.comcast.net/~bfclark2/Party/ I downloaded them to Picasa and then put too many on a web page. You can make a nicer page, too. You seem happy with the way you are doing things and it works so you probably don't want to change or need to. Picasa just helps me to keep my photos organized better. You can read about it on the web. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 20 23:28:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L4SCee006197 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:28:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:28:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD0F97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 0:28:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3671463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:25:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L40t6h016794 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:00:55 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so242958nzp for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.42.18 with SMTP id p18mr3756987nzp; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:00:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bQQt8KtFNwjX3T1KLnagYm7qUY+rIHEJOG/Y5MhWjvdwiJaNvgaL1Gr2H0SDWTljoJLhk05SDp3fX6JuCtgYOn2skLecndT0C8ANz9DSoefZSAbusHbzI8DlGOMWWpHHWNhm6fOoNt9zFw9LFhpLxlxr1ED7jAJHLNW7KbpsfDE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050620210033bd9d4c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:00:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620202302.0298ad70@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620202302.0298ad70@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5L40u6h016795 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/20/05, Betty Clark wrote: > You seem happy with the way you are doing things and it works so you > probably don't want to change or need to. Picasa just helps me to keep my > photos organized better. You can read about it on the web. That page rocks. Very right-sized. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 01:34:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5L6Y6ee020612 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:34:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:34:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD12F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 2:14:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3680504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:14:05 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L6E4Og028926 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:14:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5L6E3BT005481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:14:03 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5L6E34o005479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:14:03 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:14:03 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A wedding Message-ID: <20050621061403.GA5438@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> <44dce1c10506200558685566d@mail.gmail.com> <20050620165341.GA1288@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050621002741.GD85051@words-l.org> <20050621013844.GA31425@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050621013844.GA31425@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:38:44PM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: = On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:50:44PM -0400, Marieber Meeber wrote: = > I don't think she's hostile. More like bemused. I don't think she'd ever = > wear that hat. = = I know. But does "Steph" know? = Can't you be jealous without being hostile? I'd wear the hat, but not seriously. = And what's with the word "bemused", man. Who started it? = Sounds like how everyone was saying "facetious" a few = years ago. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 05:24:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LAO6ee017177 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:24:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:24:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD14C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 5:34:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3684749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:34:05 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5L9Y4S6014200 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:34:04 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062111321802147 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:32:18 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.4] ([128.39.111.4]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:34:01 +0200 Message-ID: <42B7DF09.20004@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:34:01 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week References: <8865866a050620095534372843@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 09:34:01.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B96F280:01C57644] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc skrev 20.06.2005 20:07: >On 6/20/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > >>"Hubba hubba!" say M&J. >> BTW, now that fotopic is putting ads on our sites, why on earth do you >>think mine are for, "CatholicDaters.com ", " >>CatholicSingles.com " and >>"Catholicmatch.com >>"??? >> Marie >> >> > >Probably most people named Marie are Catholic. > >Tony H. > > > Not 'wegian ones. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 05:24:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LAO6ee017179 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:24:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:24:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD14E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 5:43:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3684992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:43:41 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5L9heDv014916 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:43:41 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062111415702236 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:41:57 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.4] ([128.39.111.4]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:43:39 +0200 Message-ID: <42B7E14B.6030209@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:43:39 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Back in Oslo References: <20050619090546.GA23771@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050619090546.GA23771@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 09:43:40.0060 (UTC) FILETIME=[B45AD5C0:01C57645] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In Victor4ia I got very little sleep - my body refused to change its rythm 9 hours. This will make it interesting when I am flying to Samoa in one and a half day in December. Since I didn't get any sleep on the planes back, my eyes were pretty sore (and red) both yesterday and today. And today I had testing for lenses - I have never worn those before - and my eyes did not look any less red after I finally managed to insert my new lenses. I am only supposed to have them in for 4-5 hours today. But the first thing I realized when I got back to my office was that I cannot read or watch the screen with the lenses only. So I had to walk out and buy a pair of cheap ($ (US) 7) reading glasses with factor +1. So now I sit here with read, slightly sore eyes *and* a pear oc cheap glasses on my nose, and at least I can read e-mail. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:16:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LBGFee023024 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:16:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:16:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068DF90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 7:16:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3688102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:16:15 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LBGFEZ015089 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:16:15 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621111615.FOJZ10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:16:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621111614.YVDR25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:16:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42B7F6FB.8090600@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:16:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Evelyn? References: <12b.5f70e359.2fe8dd46@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <12b.5f70e359.2fe8dd46@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: >Evelyn's trying to get Blind Justice renewed. > > I had all kinds of images of you tilting at philosophical windmills and such. But then I started thinking that I bet that's the name of a tv show. In any case, I wish you luck with it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:22:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LBMsee023660 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:22:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:22:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD1721@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 7:22:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3688454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:22:54 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LBMrDN016524 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:22:53 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621112253.FQHA10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:22:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621112253.YWHO25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:22:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42B7F88A.5020608@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:22:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620202302.0298ad70@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050620202302.0298ad70@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I think you would like Picasa2 very much. It's very easy to e-mail > photos > and it automatically reduces them in size when you do. You can also ftp > them. That is how I did this: > > http://home.comcast.net/~bfclark2/Party/ > > I downloaded them to Picasa and then put too many on a web page. You can > make a nicer page, too. That looks great! > You seem happy with the way you are doing things and it works so you > probably don't want to change or need to. I'm happy with what I'm doing, but it's fun to do things different ways at different times. I don't always do my web pictures the same way anyway. In the past year or so I've tended to do them as a series of pages full of s, but at times I've done them as thumbnails to be clicked on, as word-description s, etc. > Picasa just helps me to keep my > photos organized better. You can read about it on the web. I remember your recommending it to me a long time ago. I think I downloaded it but then didn't explore what I was supposed to do with it. It may be sitting somewhere on this computer right now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:28:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LBRvee024073 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:27:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:28:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD1734@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 7:27:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3688599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:27:56 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LBRuhk017034 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:27:56 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621112756.FRMU10642.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:27:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621112756.YXDX25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:27:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42B7F9B9.2010908@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:27:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Back in Oslo References: <20050619090546.GA23771@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B7E14B.6030209@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42B7E14B.6030209@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > realized when I got back to my office was that I cannot read or watch > the screen with the lenses only. So I had to walk out and buy a pair of That's when I quit wearing contacts -- when I could no longer read with them in. Twas a long time ago -- can't remember exactly when. I had old contacts lying around the house for a good while after I quit wearing them, but they're long gone now. What's funny is that I used to need glasses/contacts for distance but not for reading and now find the opposite true. I can read without my glasses, but it's fuzzy and unpleasant. I don't need them at all for anything else. I still put them on when I go somewhere (don't usually have them on at home unless I'm reading -- reading something other than a computer screen, which I read with naked eyes). Putting them on when leaving the house is out of habit more than necessity. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 06:35:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LBZGee024954 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:35:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:35:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD16F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 7:35:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3688761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:35:16 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LBZGt6017892 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:35:16 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 95292563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:34:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42B7FB6F.1010206@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:35:11 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Evelyn? References: <12b.5f70e359.2fe8dd46@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <12b.5f70e359.2fe8dd46@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: >Evelyn's trying to get Blind Justice renewed. > > > I certainly wish you and the project luck with that. Other than that, how are you doing? You are being quieter than me lately! We can't have that!! Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:11:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LCAqee029057 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:10:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:11:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD17A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:06:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3689578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:06:31 -0400 Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LC6Vmq022098 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:06:31 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.1a1.36280972 (4262) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:06:27 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1a1.36280972.2fe95cc3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:06:27 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 6:16:24 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << But then I started thinking that I bet that's the name of a tv show. In any case, I wish you luck with it. >> It is; it stars Ron Eldard as a cop who is blinded in the line of duty. He comes back to the force in a different precinct and has to deal with a new partner and a troubled marriage as well as learning how to adapt to being blind. Eldard's preparations for the role are awesome: he studied at several schools for the blind, spent weeks blindfolded and learned how to get around, rehearses for each scene with his eyes closed (if he bumps into something, it stays in the scene; he told Bochco that he was more interested in the walls Dunbar runs into instead of the walls he climbs over). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:11:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LCAqee029056 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:10:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:11:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD1781@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:00:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3689273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:00:51 -0400 Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com (imo-m17.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LC0pgJ020682 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:00:51 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.54.46ab5641 (4262) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:00:46 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <54.46ab5641.2fe95b6d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:00:45 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 6:35:21 AM Central Daylight Time, leonard@BC.EDU writes: << Other than that, how are you doing? You are being quieter than me lately! We can't have that!! >> Well, there are ants here, and I'm trying to find a way to get rid of them without harming Sweetie. My wrist injury from last year is acting up, and I'm hoping that I won't have to have surgery on it. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:11:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LCBZee029199 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:11:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:11:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068DE8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:11:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3689877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:11:34 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCBYrX023179 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:11:34 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 102519521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:12:04 -0400 Message-ID: <42B803F5.5020003@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:11:33 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Evelyn? References: <54.46ab5641.2fe95b6d@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <54.46ab5641.2fe95b6d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > > >Well, there are ants here, and I'm trying to find a way to get rid of them >without harming Sweetie. > See if you can find this locally. I have used it and it works very well. The FAQ tells you what is in it and that it is not harmful to pets. > http://www.terro.com/antcontrolfaq2.php >My wrist injury from last year is acting up, >and I'm hoping that I won't have to have surgery on it. > > Oh! Not good. Have you seen your doctor about it recently? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:22:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LCLwee030438 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:21:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:22:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068DFA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:15:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3690022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:15:36 -0400 Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCFafE025383 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:15:36 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.194.41459a57 (4262) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:15:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <194.41459a57.2fe95ee1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:15:29 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 7:11:41 AM Central Daylight Time, leonard@BC.EDU writes: Oh! Not good. Have you seen your doctor about it recently? I don't have a doctor; I can't afford one even with insurance. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:22:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LCLwee030436 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:21:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:22:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068DF94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:11:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3689884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:11:58 -0400 Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCBw56023217 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:11:58 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.68.581eb240 (4262) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:11:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <68.581eb240.2fe95e07@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:11:51 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 6:35:21 AM Central Daylight Time, leonard@BC.EDU writes: I certainly wish you and the project luck with that. Thanks, Rita and Natalie, for the good wishes. This is one of the few shows I will definitely buy the DVDs, instead of just getting them through Netflix. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:23:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LCN1ee030573 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:23:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:23:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD1813@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:23:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3690659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:23:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCMxPw026691 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:22:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so73575nzk for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr3423071nzb; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:22:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H6gvQudji72hXKj05kZPRTiuHIDm3srm8pDTL/+0gZeN0KhU1VNfNty+7ZN1Ciucc5gH6Og9I0s5erMyZIYRItRzjYvKxZN0lt+MDpa64tj+fMC4m6q/gXYjQcP2Y2t3AT5IDvaI7gusMHJannoLffNs6hr+Fpx4ALp28AOrgN8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050621052267ff3308@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:22:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Back in Oslo In-Reply-To: <42B7F9B9.2010908@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050619090546.GA23771@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B7E14B.6030209@gmail.com> <42B7F9B9.2010908@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LCN0Pw026700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/21/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > That's when I quit wearing contacts -- when I could no longer read with > them in. That's why I have monovision--one near, one far. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:28:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LCSLee031176 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:28:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:28:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD180B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:28:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3691065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:28:21 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCSKVc027417 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:28:20 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:28:20 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:27:58 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: at the risk of being hemispherist... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Summer Solstice BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:31:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LCVMee031586 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:31:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:31:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD1852@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:31:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3691174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:31:21 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCVLGQ027851 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:31:21 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD1816@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:31:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200506211231.j5LCVLGQ027851@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:31:21 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: (not) travel well To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:16:06 -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:27:21AM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> In 1) I am guessing that sediments mix back into the wine when shaken >> by movement, and that's why they don't travel well. The shaken wine >> is cloudy and doesn't taste good. >> >> This is irrelevant, except that in 2)there's mixing of interpretations, >> so that things differently in a new >> environment, "clouding" the original interpretation. > >This explanation has done so much to make me understand >my misunderstandings! Because it points to the need for more wine? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:44:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LCilee000490 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:44:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:44:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD189A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:44:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3691813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:44:47 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCilEv029960 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:44:47 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD185E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:44:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200506211244.j5LCilEv029960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:44:46 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Frustrating To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:28:22 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I suddenly realized that fest time is ALMOST HERE. I had somehow >thought it was much farther away. But a Spencer condition made me study >the calendar and catch on that I've leaving for Syracuse next week. The >condition was that Spencer was walking on three legs much of yesterday. ... So $275 later, all is ok. > I'm sorry to hear that he's having discomfort. Hope the medicine is tasty and he takes it without problems, and that it helps! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 07:53:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LCrpee001474 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:53:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:53:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068DF27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:53:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3692179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:53:51 -0400 Received: from imo-m15.mx.aol.com (imo-m15.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCroeJ031794 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:53:50 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.d7.2895862c (3657) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:53:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:53:48 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 7:47:07 AM Central Daylight Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: << Is there any reason to think the "ant trap" thingies would hurt Sweetie? >> I tried the ant traps; the ants just skirt them with a sneer on their little ant faces. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:09:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LD94ee003448 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:09:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:09:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068E0E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:08:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3694190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:08:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LD8m17002362 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:08:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so101218nzk for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr4042087nzc; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:02:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Crxu4rRJ9QeRV1DmZOeVPpZ8ERyT2KbOYMzc3PVt5bTiLRNbm/IO4MGq/XhI/yxad4JDaASiWsLaLDrnKga+XnkwepfOBXuIslcJ43Aq0SBUJSd6E6stFEwfHySqhEfq23pqXFDg+ghQQzw1+NkR0jnhr41wsPjspndV3ifVAS8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050621060245435d92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:02:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: For Firefox users who have broadband Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LD8m17002365 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299854/posts?page=347,48 Note that the command is about:config--I couldn't see the colon in that typeface. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:25:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDPMee005531 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD1959@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:00:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3693286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:00:11 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LD0BQY000768 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:00:11 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 102523672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:00:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42B80F5A.6060004@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:00:10 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: <200506201405.j5KE5VDU030862@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B76D36.2090303@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42B76D36.2090303@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > that no hip weakness is involved. He showed me the x-rays on a screen > of Spencer's innards -- sort of like in movies when doctors show > patients x-rays. So $275 later, all is ok. > I thought that you did not like looking at pictures of innards. Is that just human innards? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:25:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDPMee005539 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD192A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:01:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3693582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:01:52 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5LD1pc9001247 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:01:51 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062115000703373 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:00:07 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.4] ([128.39.111.4]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:01:50 +0200 Message-ID: <42B80FBD.7060800@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:01:49 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Gagh. Getting them out. References: <200506211245.j5LCjF52030132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506211245.j5LCjF52030132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2005 13:01:50.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[6385B720:01C57661] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have now emoved the lenses (I was told to start with 4-5 hours the first day and then slowly let it build up). It was not easy to get them out. Especially the left one, so now my eyes are really bloodshot. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:25:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDPMee005538 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD189E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:45:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3691837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:45:16 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCjF52030132 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:45:15 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD18AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:45:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200506211245.j5LCjF52030132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:45:15 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:27:58 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Happy Summer Solstice > > >BrP Why, thank you for mentioning it. It is also our 1.5 wedding anniversary. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:25:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDPMef005531 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD1949@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:03:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3693849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:03:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LD3qSr001580 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:03:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so85126nzp for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.128.10 with SMTP id a10mr4043490nzd; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:03:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nTZwNicNWCPpGj15QNXwEoeMNrXl8/z6E3bXtxbDFBix6jGDShaen4Jm8Ysstkp8cpuV/5mPvP4iii/AtEoTbAXFI5kW0ujJAFyX+osh1NnsnF4ITztPktMaZzorY4x2eCOx/EYdu8d5jiYUG52n+HMEjePs/fio/kSZotinsbM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062106033b0dbe47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:03:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gagh. Getting them out. In-Reply-To: <42B80FBD.7060800@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506211245.j5LCjF52030132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B80FBD.7060800@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LD3rSr001581 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think they'll be better (easier in and out) when your eyes aren't so inflamed to start with. On 6/21/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > I have now emoved the lenses (I was told to start with 4-5 hours the > first day and then slowly let it build up). It was not easy to get them > out. Especially the left one, so now my eyes are really bloodshot. > > Espen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:25:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDPMee005536 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD1950@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:59:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3693202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:59:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCx2Wc000586 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:59:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so120716nzo for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.13 with SMTP id s13mr2096784nzc; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:59:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U4K/+sgyXHYlKHE+wt+Mg6l3nxqx9v4vao5Y8eZ1c0WCblqeRmgZJneN+f6AOTflfWsaOEa3sTRx/DOEBbknRaCWFTiaW08avLTedORFuEtHjBuI0tNCBd5PBNbX1WM9OFeSxACFRQy1BjlKGVMJ/qzbnC0rBrlFRMLq55rOXbE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050621055954495446@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:59:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Evelyn? In-Reply-To: <200506211247.j5LClbQi030611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506211247.j5LClbQi030611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LCx3Wc000587 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Boric acid? Even Amdro won't hurt pets. On 6/21/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:00:45 EDT, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > >In a message dated 6/21/2005 6:35:21 AM Central Daylight Time, > leonard@BC.EDU > >writes: > ><< > >Other than that, > >how are you doing? You are being quieter than me lately! We can't have > >that!! > >>> > > > >Well, there are ants here, and I'm trying to find a way to get rid of them > >without harming Sweetie. My wrist injury from last year is acting up, > >and I'm hoping that I won't have to have surgery on it. > > > >Evelyn Duncan > >brandykitt@aol.com > >saveblindjustice.com > > Washing shelves and counters with pennyroyal tea slowed them > down a little. It's a lot of work and wears off quickly, though. > Is there any reason to think the "ant trap" thingies would hurt > Sweetie? > clo > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:26:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDPMee005534 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD186F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:47:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3691951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:47:37 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LClbQi030611 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:47:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD18BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 8:47:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200506211247.j5LClbQi030611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:47:37 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:00:45 EDT, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 6/21/2005 6:35:21 AM Central Daylight Time, leonard@BC.EDU >writes: ><< >Other than that, >how are you doing? You are being quieter than me lately! We can't have >that!! >>> > >Well, there are ants here, and I'm trying to find a way to get rid of them >without harming Sweetie. My wrist injury from last year is acting up, >and I'm hoping that I won't have to have surgery on it. > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >saveblindjustice.com Washing shelves and counters with pennyroyal tea slowed them down a little. It's a lot of work and wears off quickly, though. Is there any reason to think the "ant trap" thingies would hurt Sweetie? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:26:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDPMef005539 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD198A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:04:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3693897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:04:46 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LD4h7V001704 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:04:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so1283593wra for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.2 with SMTP id f2mr3186295wra; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:04:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=j3t2/4PRThMEvN890EYOoEyI2lxsidNF135K9CrapcwjM32vh1gB9qu+uYZ1x6ZIqIH9wxq+5MDCFre7acmv7ZfNxC/5OVKtnAtQ02fl5MnLqYFUPwMyX01/8i7PSMvba+pXMBbHp6YbsGaUTwrwrS81YGNoWIpSQu8gvLgoFdE= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:04:43 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5LDPMef005539 Thank you. Happy Full Moon. Happy Summer Solstice > BrP > -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:26:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDPMef005538 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:26:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD19B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:10:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3694240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:10:00 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDA0MF002480 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:10:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so118603nzp for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.3 with SMTP id m3mr4072474nzb; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:03:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UlBJ398qVwQ4seq3oM4aEbl/DvYeQ04V6S/SXDHHynOuTAoDc43kDS0AbMklC+6WHKj9gD+AfrVjvj5e9Jg3luRV8JQZ54YgEN8laDis7j+gKCu+KHTtiwEDkXXOeVj4aiAAqaq23SxLcQl9nDHDBBSSPVOPhSpUiRUGn3yODX8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062106032caafa69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:03:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating In-Reply-To: <42B80F5A.6060004@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506201405.j5KE5VDU030862@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B76D36.2090303@maynor.net> <42B80F5A.6060004@bc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LDA0MF002481 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/21/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > > that no hip weakness is involved. He showed me the x-rays on a screen > > of Spencer's innards -- sort of like in movies when doctors show > > patients x-rays. So $275 later, all is ok. > > > I thought that you did not like looking at pictures of innards. Is that > just human innards? I thought she didn't even like thinking about innards. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:26:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDPMeg005531 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:26:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD1A1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:22:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3695167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:22:06 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDM6pO004499 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:22:06 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621132206.XEAY2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:22:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621132200.DGFT4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:22:00 -0400 Message-ID: <42B81475.5040709@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:21:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Evelyn? References: <54.46ab5641.2fe95b6d@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <54.46ab5641.2fe95b6d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: >Well, there are ants here, and I'm trying to find a way to get rid of them >without harming Sweetie. > I've found that putting those little ant-trap (actually ant-bait) things around where I've had an ant invasion works. I leave them sitting there for a few days. But since these are usually on windowsills or counters, I don't have to worry about Spencer. I'm not sure what the cat risk might be. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:26:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDPMef005536 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:26:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD1A04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:19:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3694960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:19:44 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDJi20004041 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:19:44 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621131944.XAJL2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:19:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621131944.DEHF4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:19:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42B813ED.6010903@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:19:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Att: DorisM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How is Gene? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:36:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDa7ee006548 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:36:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:36:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068E1FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:26:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3695536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:26:07 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDQ6n9005339 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:26:07 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621132606.XKCR2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:26:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621132606.DJXD4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:26:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42B8156B.5090900@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:26:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Back in Oslo References: <20050619090546.GA23771@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B7E14B.6030209@gmail.com> <42B7F9B9.2010908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050621052267ff3308@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050621052267ff3308@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>That's when I quit wearing contacts -- when I could no longer read with >>them in. >> >> >That's why I have monovision--one near, one far. > > That was one of the possibilities I considered, having heard/read that the eye-to-brain mechanism adjusts well to that, but then I decided I'd rather just wear glasses all the time instead of contacts. The only time I ever miss contacts is when walking in rain. And that doesn't happen frequently enough to make me consider ever wearing them again. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:37:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDalee006614 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:36:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:37:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD1A68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:26:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3695630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:26:47 -0400 Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com (imo-m21.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDQlOJ005475 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:26:47 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.df.15fe628a (17228) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:26:40 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:26:40 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 8:22:26 AM Central Daylight Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: I've found that putting those little ant-trap (actually ant-bait) things around where I've had an ant invasion works. They didn't work here; the ants are not just in the kitchen but in the carpeting, too. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:37:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDalee006613 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:36:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:37:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD1A73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:34:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3696417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:34:25 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDYP4u006926 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:34:25 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621133425.XWET2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:34:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621133424.DRAP4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:34:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42B8175E.1060406@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:34:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: <200506211244.j5LCilEv029960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506211244.j5LCilEv029960@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >I'm sorry to hear that he's having discomfort. Hope the medicine is >tasty and he takes it without problems, and that it helps! > > The twice-a-day pills stink to high heaven. I didn't even try to see whether he'd eat one straight from my hand. I hid it in cream cheese. I'm going to wait until late afternoon for the once-a-day pill, along with the second of the twice-a-day, since I think that putting them in his canned food should work. He always cleans that platter. One of these pills he's to take for just a week and then after that "as needed." That's good since he will be heading for his boarding vacation in about a week. The other pill is forever, though. I think it's the twice-a-day one but dropping to once a day after three weeks. I'm glad he's boarding at the place from whence came these pills since surely they will be willing to administer them while he's staying there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:37:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDalee006616 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:36:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:37:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD1A9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:30:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3696113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:30:01 -0400 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDU1A5006258 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:30:01 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.102.637c6fb5 (17228) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:30:00 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <102.637c6fb5.2fe97057@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:29:59 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 7:59:19 AM Central Daylight Time, innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: Boric acid? Even Amdro won't hurt pets. Thanks! I could get some and do a room at a time (keep Sweetie in my room while I do the living room-dining room, and keep her out of my room while I do that one). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:37:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDalee006615 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:36:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:37:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD1A9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:29:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3696088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:29:55 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDTsZ4006204 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:29:54 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621132954.XPLI2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:29:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621132954.DNGZ4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:29:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42B8164E.7080604@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:29:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Happy Summer Solstice > > It's the first thing I thought about when I woke up this morning, happy that daylight would come soon. But there's a down-side also: knowing that the days will start getting shorter now. That may be good for my tomatoes, though. The migration of the sun in the past few months has made the garden shadier. It was borderline even when I planted the tomatoes in March -- got not as much sun as tomatoes would prefer but was the best I could do. As the sun moved northwest, past more trees, the sunlight lessened. Presumably the sun will now head back where it came from, throwing more light on the tomatoes in late summer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:37:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDalef006616 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:37:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:37:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD1AD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:36:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3696538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:36:31 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDaVw4007295 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:36:31 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621133631.XZKD2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:36:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621133631.DSZD4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:36:31 -0400 Message-ID: <42B817DC.7080105@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:36:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: <200506201405.j5KE5VDU030862@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B76D36.2090303@maynor.net> <42B80F5A.6060004@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42B80F5A.6060004@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >> that no hip weakness is involved. He showed me the x-rays on a screen >> of Spencer's innards -- sort of like in movies when doctors show >> patients x-rays. So $275 later, all is ok. > > I thought that you did not like looking at pictures of innards. Is that > just human innards? Bones don't bother me as much as guts. And yes to human innards being more offensive than dog innards. But also I had no choice in the matter -- they were on a big screen in "examination room 1," which was where I was told to go. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:37:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDalee006609 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:36:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:37:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD1A57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:31:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3696198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:31:37 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDVav3006547 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:31:37 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-73.gwi.net [216.195.165.73]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5LDVXLI048099; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:31:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:31:28 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:39 PM 6/20/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >How does Picasa work? I found Fotopic inconvenient the first and only >time I used it. I normally just put pictures online in my own web space. It works pretty much the same way as Camedia or any of the other software that comes with cameras; it is considerably more user-friendly than the suite of programs that Canon provides. It has two major functions. One is the photo-management system, which pretty much takes over for the Windows "My Pictures." It allows you to organize and reorganize your photos: as Betty said, easily send appropriate-sized photos via e-mail; etc. The second is the photo-processing system. It, too, is user friendly; the cropping and straightening functions are really nice. The only things I've seen that aren't an improvement on, e.g., Camedia, are the one-click-fixes-all, which in my opinion tries to do too much, and the caption writer, which unlike their advertising, is not nearly as good---you can't really edit, e.g., delete/insert letters or words, you have to backspace through the whole string to change one letter, then retype the remainder. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:37:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDalef006614 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:37:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:37:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD1ABB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:36:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3696519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:36:20 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDaGnm007256 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:36:16 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A1ABDEF415E0 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:36:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004501c57666$3005dec0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42B813ED.6010903@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Att: DorisM Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:36:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:19 AM Subject: Att: DorisM > How is Gene? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Gene is doing fine . . walking with a walker, then crutches, and now down to a cane. It has been very painful, though. He goes to physical therapy and the workouts really hurt. Sleep is difficult too. So we'll be glad when the healing is complete. Takes time. Has been 2 weeks today. Bonus: A new knee returns the height you lost as the knees gave out. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:40:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDe1ee006958 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:40:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:40:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068E0B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:40:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3696842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:40:00 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDe0LX007805 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:40:00 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621134000.YEUT2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:40:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621133959.DWGQ4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:39:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42B818AC.7090302@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:39:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gagh. Getting them out. References: <200506211245.j5LCjF52030132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B80FBD.7060800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42B80FBD.7060800@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > I have now emoved the lenses (I was told to start with 4-5 hours the > first day and then slowly let it build up). It was not easy to get them > out. Especially the left one, so now my eyes are really bloodshot. I had a big problem with contact removal back in the early days -- the old-fashioned kind before soft lenses came along. I couldn't just flick them out the way other people did. I've forgotten what the ophthalmologist told me about my mutant eyes -- I just remember that he showed me a two-handed technique that I had to use. It was a bother in a way, but the good thing was that I never had to worry about the problem some people had of having a contact accidentally come out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:42:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDfxee007142 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:42:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:42:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068E0CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:41:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3697144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:41:59 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDfwvD008277 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:41:59 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621134158.YICX2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:41:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621134158.DYDH4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:41:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42B81923.2080003@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:41:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frustrating References: <200506201405.j5KE5VDU030862@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B76D36.2090303@maynor.net> <42B80F5A.6060004@bc.edu> <8ddfc8a705062106032caafa69@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062106032caafa69@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: > I thought she didn't even like thinking about innards. You are correct. Bones, however, are far less offensive than other stuff in bodies. It's mainly organs that I don't want to think about -- or whatever the right name is for fleshy, yucky things. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:48:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDmQee008099 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:48:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:48:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD1B54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:48:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3697724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:48:26 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDmPWD009148 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:48:26 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.43]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621134825.YSAM2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:48:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.43]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050621134825.EEAG4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:48:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42B81AA6.5070305@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:48:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > It works pretty much the same way as Camedia or any of the other software > that comes with cameras; it is considerably more user-friendly than the > suite of programs that Canon provides. It has two major functions. > One is > the photo-management system, which pretty much takes over for the Windows > "My Pictures." It allows you to organize and reorganize your photos: as > Betty said, easily send appropriate-sized photos via e-mail; etc. The > second is the photo-processing system. It, too, is user friendly; the > cropping and straightening functions are really nice. The only things > I've > seen that aren't an improvement on, e.g., Camedia, are the > one-click-fixes-all, which in my opinion tries to do too much, and the > caption writer, which unlike their advertising, is not nearly as > good---you > can't really edit, e.g., delete/insert letters or words, you have to > backspace through the whole string to change one letter, then retype the > remainder. Thanks. I may try it -- but probably not right away since I've got a houseguest arriving mid-day today who will be staying in my computer room. Well, I don't guess she'll be staying in this room all the time. But it will be where she sleeps and keeps her stuff. Iow, my computer time is going to be cut into. What you say above sounds interesting, though, since I'm not wild about the way my pictures are moved via whatever I'm using now. I move them with whatever it is that pops onto my screen when I insert the card-reader, and then I resize and crop using Lview. What I was interested in re Betty's example was the webpage. I got the impression that Picasa sort of that page. When I do the thumbnailing myself, the thumbnails don't look neat, and I also get tired of writing all the HTML to make them enlargeable. Having that magically happen might be convenient. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 08:59:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LDwnee009178 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:58:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:58:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD1BCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 9:58:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3698528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:58:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LDwmdM010695 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:58:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so42253nzo for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.13 with SMTP id s13mr2140545nzc; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:58:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KtUXMyR5HHJ5svgxnCwxB75DVbPLGRKHS5mRquYHGxPYiZ3+9WcZSsygs8swJ2IbPF5VvZenCcKMx8RfdrjOF5jskMlEMwKVg1G/vX/jlT1fkOeeWEIOtB855/C4YBlxm6AMFfTiNmyr4o93eVSYQrRel2S2wzms7sjG3RylnNI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050621065833412cf3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:58:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Evelyn? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LDwndM010696 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/21/05, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 6/21/2005 8:22:26 AM Central Daylight Time, > natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > I've found that putting those little ant-trap (actually ant-bait) things > around where I've had an ant invasion works. > > > They didn't work here; the ants are not just in the kitchen but in > the carpeting, too. Can you talk to your apt mgr about getting an exterminator in? You might also look into foggers--I think some of those work on ants, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 09:32:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LEWdee012810 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:32:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:32:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068E458@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:22:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3701719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:22:38 -0400 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com (imo-m25.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LEMbZR016315 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:22:37 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.8c.295b874d (4184) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:22:27 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <8c.295b874d.2fe97ca3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:22:27 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 8:59:01 AM Central Daylight Time, innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: You might also look into foggers--I think some of those work on ants, too. I don't have anywhere to keep Sweetie while the fogging is going on, though. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 10:12:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LFCTee017362 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:12:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:12:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0068E84D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:02:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3710579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:02:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LF2Sda025229 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:02:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so49236nzo for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.11 with SMTP id x11mr3842313nzx; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:02:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nMxvcfcltbQgVd1eD9YURtH8wvU8MyKRylXN4jJ38HMF91lmRqgK744DI79fEx63BSTtphBb9CS1KSrzlWaXbpuTAQ4v+0Ev1ct0urAOg7O8oYDe2ubDiu/pYgoYvuhw5UOQ/OC1ffevbdtbfSORpRaNFx6QTsS9N0PuLo49i6w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506210802539a7a3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:02:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Evelyn? In-Reply-To: <8c.295b874d.2fe97ca3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8c.295b874d.2fe97ca3@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LF2Sda025232 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/21/05, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 6/21/2005 8:59:01 AM Central Daylight Time, > innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: > You might also look into foggers--I think some of those work on ants, too. > > > I don't have anywhere to keep Sweetie while the fogging is going on, though. Ack. I just let the cat outside, but I guess you can't do that. Can you get a friend to pick you up and visit with you for a while while the fogger works? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 10:14:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LFE1ee017538 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:14:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:14:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD2263@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:14:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3712047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:14:01 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LFE1em028583 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:14:01 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71755435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:13:59 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621081406.0278dd00@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:15:28 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A wedding In-Reply-To: <20050621061403.GA5438@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200506191106.j5JB6fjh004117@sm.luth.se> <44dce1c10506200558685566d@mail.gmail.com> <20050620165341.GA1288@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050621002741.GD85051@words-l.org> <20050621013844.GA31425@words-l.org> <20050621061403.GA5438@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:14 PM 6/20/2005, you wrote: >On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:38:44PM -0500, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >= On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 08:50:44PM -0400, Marieber Meeber wrote: >= > I don't think she's hostile. More like bemused. I don't think she'd ever >= > wear that hat. >= >= I know. But does "Steph" know? >= > >Can't you be jealous without being hostile? I'd wear the hat, but not >seriously. > >= And what's with the word "bemused", man. Who started it? >= Sounds like how everyone was saying "facetious" a few >= years ago. The hat is terrific on Marcia. Not everyone could wear it. I like my red hat from Alyce. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 10:16:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LFGRee017756 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:16:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:16:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD2233@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:16:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3712270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:16:26 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LFGQcL029088 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:16:26 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71756047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:16:25 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621081715.0278c1a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:17:54 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <42B7F88A.5020608@maynor.net> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620202302.0298ad70@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B7F88A.5020608@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:22 AM 6/21/2005, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>I think you would like Picasa2 very much. It's very easy to e-mail >>photos >>and it automatically reduces them in size when you do. You can also ftp >>them. That is how I did this: >> >>http://home.comcast.net/~bfclark2/Party/ >> >>I downloaded them to Picasa and then put too many on a web page. You can >>make a nicer page, too. > >That looks great! I have to give credit to you as photographer. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 10:18:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LFI2ee017927 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:18:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:18:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD2296@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:18:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3712462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:18:02 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LFI1lJ029444; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:18:01 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71756469; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:18:00 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621081908.027e1610@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:19:30 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... In-Reply-To: <200506211245.j5LCjF52030132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506211245.j5LCjF52030132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:45 AM 6/21/2005, Mrs. Williams wrote: >On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:27:58 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >Happy Summer Solstice > > > > > >BrP > >Why, thank you for mentioning it. > >It is also our 1.5 wedding anniversary. > >Amy What are you doing to celebrate? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 10:19:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LFJNee018088 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:19:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:19:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD2297@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:19:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3712636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:19:23 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LFJMcn029816 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:19:23 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71756844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:19:22 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621081957.02786ac0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:20:51 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Gagh. Getting them out. In-Reply-To: <42B80FBD.7060800@gmail.com> References: <200506211245.j5LCjF52030132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B80FBD.7060800@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:01 AM 6/21/2005, you wrote: >I have now emoved the lenses (I was told to start with 4-5 hours the >first day and then slowly let it build up). It was not easy to get them >out. Especially the left one, so now my eyes are really bloodshot. > >Espen I think you need to give your poor eyes a rest before starting this. Do they perform lasik surgery in Norway? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 10:23:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LFNWee018502 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:23:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:23:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD22B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:23:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3712841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:23:32 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LFNWM0030650; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:23:32 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71758047; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:23:31 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621082340.027fb510@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:25:00 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <42B81AA6.5070305@maynor.net> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> <42B81AA6.5070305@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:48 AM 6/21/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >card-reader, and then I resize and crop using Lview. What I was >interested in re Betty's example was the webpage. I got the impression >that Picasa sort of that page. When I do the thumbnailing >myself, the thumbnails don't look neat, and I also get tired of writing >all the HTML to make them enlargeable. Having that magically happen >might be convenient. I don't do HTML. Samant used my preferred way to do web pages when he showed us his Chicago winter photos. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 10:59:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LFx1ee022263 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:59:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:59:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD248B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:59:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3716688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:59:01 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LFx05B004068 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:59:01 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23601732 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:09:39 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:59:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:58:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1658852261.20050621095857@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ATTN: Dan In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 235, in=98100, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, my provider (webmasters.com), who has been incredibly reliable the last few years, has had a couple of disk crashes on mail servers, so things have bounced. In fact a week ago there were enough of them that I got bumped from yahoogroups and had to re-up. And I manage several of them.... anyway, hope all is well now, and it appears that I got list mail ok since then. dan 6/20/2005, 6:32 PM, Adam Hartfield wrote: AH> Dan, 30 list messages failed to be delivered to you since yesterday, and my AH> private email informing you of that just bounced with a DNS error. I'll let AH> it go for a while but if it continues to error tomorrow I may put you on AH> nomail. AH> --Adam AH> go home, folks, nothing to see here. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:06:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LG6Fee023171 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:06:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:06:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD2500@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:06:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:06:15 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LG6DGL005652 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:06:13 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71771342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:06:12 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621090722.02773180@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:07:41 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: For Firefox users who have broadband In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050621060245435d92@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050621060245435d92@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:02 AM 6/21/2005, you wrote: >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299854/posts?page=347,48 > >Note that the command is about:config--I couldn't see the colon in >that typeface. > >Karen I did this months ago and noticed no difference. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:06:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LG6Iee023181 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:06:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:06:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD2501@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:06:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:06:18 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LG6Fpn005660 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:06:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23602576 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:16:54 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:06:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:06:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1232526804.20050621100613@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where's Evelyn? In-Reply-To: <1a1.36280972.2fe95cc3@aol.com> References: <1a1.36280972.2fe95cc3@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 235, in=98105, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/21/2005, 6:06 AM, Evelyn Duncan wrote: ED> It is; it stars Ron Eldard as a cop who is blinded in the line of ED> duty. He comes back to the force in a different precinct and ED> has to deal with a new partner and a troubled marriage as well ED> as learning how to adapt to being blind. I only saw it once, as it conflicted with something else we watched and/or TiVo'ed. Seemed interesting, but a bit forced and a bit unrealistic (not that other cop shows aren't.....since we all know that most cops have NEVER fired their weapon on duty during an entire career...unlike most on the tube). Good luck with it dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:10:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LGAaee023747 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:10:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:10:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068E8B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:10:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:10:30 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LGANm8006393 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:10:23 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23424379 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:34:22 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:10:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:10:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1332072452.20050621101021@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 235, in=85329, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/21/2005, 7:31 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> which unlike their advertising, is not nearly as good---you cwv> can't really edit, e.g., delete/insert letters or words, you have to cwv> backspace through the whole string to change one letter, then retype the cwv> remainder. That sounds like a pain. But it also ought to be a pretty easy fix, which maybe they'll do pretty soon....particularly if y'all bitch about it. I've played with it, but not with captions. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:24:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LGO6ee024996 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:24:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:24:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD2571@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:24:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3719058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:24:06 -0400 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LGO6ZH008705 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:24:06 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.1e4.3dfbafd1 (4539) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:24:04 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e4.3dfbafd1.2fe99924@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:24:04 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 11:06:32 AM Central Daylight Time, dan@GAILNDAN.COM writes: << (not that other cop shows aren't.....since we all know that most cops have NEVER fired their weapon on duty during an entire career...unlike most on the tube). >> Dunbar's fought to keep his gun, but tonight's episode was supposed to be one in which he debates to keep it (it was stolen from him in the last episode). But because of the NBA finals, the episode won't be broadcast. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:26:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LGQDee025246 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:26:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:26:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD25D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:26:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3719244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:26:12 -0400 Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com (imo-m17.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LGQCCa009010 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:26:12 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.9.467b784f (4539) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:26:07 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9.467b784f.2fe9999f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:26:07 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where's Evelyn? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 10:02:44 AM Central Daylight Time, innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: << Can you get a friend to pick you up and visit with you for a while while the fogger works? >> I'll have to find someone who wants to take her for a day or two. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:40:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LGe5ee026668 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:40:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:40:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD25F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:30:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3718741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:30:05 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5LGK39K008246 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:20:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 79270 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 16:20:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:20:03 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Firefox users who have broadband Message-ID: <20050621162003.GA76512@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050621060245435d92@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050621060245435d92@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:02:07AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299854/posts?page=347,48 > > Note that the command is about:config--I couldn't see the colon in > that typeface. Your OS comes equipped with the revolutionary CAP Technology (cut and paste). Besides, my mailer shows your post above in the same typeface! *SCARY MUSIC* From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:40:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LGe5ee026669 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:40:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:40:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD2617@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:31:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3718859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:31:43 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5LGLgMN008439 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:21:43 -0400 Received: (qmail 80200 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 16:21:42 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:21:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week Message-ID: <20050621162142.GB76512@words-l.org> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> <42B81AA6.5070305@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621082340.027fb510@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621082340.027fb510@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:25:00AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 06:48 AM 6/21/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >card-reader, and then I resize and crop using Lview. What I was > >interested in re Betty's example was the webpage. I got the impression > >that Picasa sort of that page. When I do the thumbnailing > >myself, the thumbnails don't look neat, and I also get tired of writing > >all the HTML to make them enlargeable. Having that magically happen > >might be convenient. > > I don't do HTML. > > Samant used my preferred way to do web pages when he showed us his Chicago > winter photos. Thank you, BF Clark. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:49:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LGnmee027696 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:49:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:49:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD269B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:49:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3720893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:49:48 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LGnlIa012116 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:49:47 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-73.gwi.net [216.195.165.73]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5LGnehh074752; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:49:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050621123221.01c11458@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:34:47 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <1332072452.20050621101021@gailndan.com> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> <1332072452.20050621101021@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:10 PM 6/21/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >That sounds like a pain. But it also ought to be a pretty easy fix, One would think so, given the universality of word-processing software. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 11:56:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LGuMee028463 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:56:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:56:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD268B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:56:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3721421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:56:21 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LGuIs8013529 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:56:18 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD26D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:56:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200506211656.j5LGuIs8013529@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:56:18 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>It is also our 1.5 wedding anniversary. >> >>Amy > >What are you doing to celebrate? > >Betty Something cool ... we're leaning toward having eel at Sekai Sushi. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 12:45:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LHjXee001329 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:45:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:45:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD2900@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:35:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3724613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:35:32 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5LHPVpQ019298 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:25:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 15941 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 17:25:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:25:30 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week Message-ID: <20050621172530.GA12453@words-l.org> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> <1332072452.20050621101021@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621123221.01c11458@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050621123221.01c11458@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 12:34:47PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 12:10 PM 6/21/2005, Dan Lester wrote: > > >That sounds like a pain. But it also ought to be a pretty easy fix, > > One would think so, given the universality of word-processing software. I agree, philosophically AND biologically. Obviously, most of their customers must like it the way it is. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 12:56:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LHtdee002042 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:55:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:56:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD2A21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:55:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3728824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:55:38 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LHtb68025785 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:55:38 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23614661 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:06:15 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:56:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:55:32 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <161214298.20050621115532@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <20050621172530.GA12453@words-l.org> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> <1332072452.20050621101021@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621123221.01c11458@pop.gwi.net> <20050621172530.GA12453@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 235, in=98177, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/21/2005, 11:25 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> One would think so, given the universality of word-processing software. DMH> I agree, philosophically AND biologically. Obviously, DMH> most of their customers must like it the way it is. Doubt that. I think most people just don't bother to raise hell. Think of all the times people walk out of a restaurant after a crappy meal and when you pay the bill they say "how was everything tonight, sir?" and the person says "just fine" and when he gets to the car says "damn, I'll never go to that place again". If no one tells you that you have a problem, you don't know that you have a problem. I will guess that picasa thinks their image features are more important than their caption features....which is undoubtedly correct. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:15:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LIF3ee003709 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:15:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:15:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD2AF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:15:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3730590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:15:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LIF2nq028771 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:15:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so55890nzp for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.13 with SMTP id s13mr2283330nzc; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:14:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uWJoogrlLJ41Rww768TtbRv9hUjW9YfTYPalCOfCzhGzNybFpNG8ghUUXRGfhGXugmbZaLrrlPTcXTyqKddbehNji0K68XBmiFzWtAMB61sxfhHo4oSjsfYW0IXrI8Vri8AFyLLrmuk9o86zR6NdBG/+/dJfA1pRsAHQcbNYNqI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062111142c0fe87a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:14:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Firefox users who have broadband In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621090722.02773180@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050621060245435d92@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621090722.02773180@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LIF2nq028772 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/21/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 06:02 AM 6/21/2005, you wrote: > >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299854/posts?page=347,48 > > > >Note that the command is about:config--I couldn't see the colon in > >that typeface. > > > >Karen > > > I did this months ago and noticed no difference. Huh. I've noticed a huge difference on two different machines. That's why I posted it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:16:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LIGMee003874 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:16:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:16:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD2AC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:16:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3730688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:16:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LIGL6M028934 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:16:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so57016nzp for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.78 with SMTP id t78mr4115444nzg; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:16:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Gz2qS+iZLD2lPcMMyEvs7GQt5oHVnLORLAsq1+pJNNkhvSdKrUFB3k2aDawmZz5vCLgyMsVdvlg8RxS79GmRWL7Xc+tYShAg6xdkgwlndVkeCyameWWIFj5AjGHBC3Qqc218ARlFJrPw6PRw3SxcoNWXpK+cM1QNl0j6zzB6rrA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506211116117fbb5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:16:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Evelyn? In-Reply-To: <1e4.3dfbafd1.2fe99924@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1e4.3dfbafd1.2fe99924@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LIGL6M028935 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/21/05, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > But because of the NBA finals, the episode won't be > broadcast. Go, Pistons! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 13:54:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LIsree008620 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:54:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:54:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD2C81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:54:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3733920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:54:53 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LIsqaL002452 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:54:52 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-73.gwi.net [216.195.165.73]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5LIskTJ049947; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:54:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050621143847.01c14a78@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:42:45 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week In-Reply-To: <161214298.20050621115532@gailndan.com> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> <1332072452.20050621101021@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621123221.01c11458@pop.gwi.net> <20050621172530.GA12453@words-l.org> <161214298.20050621115532@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:55 PM 6/21/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >I will guess that picasa thinks their image features are more >important than their caption features....which is undoubtedly correct. Right. The other thing that I forgot to mention earlier is that the Picasa captions are not exportable (as the Camedia captions are) to Webshots. Again, if sufficient numbers complain, Picasa might do something about it; otherwise, they will continue to refine the image features. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:14:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LJDxee011352 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:14:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:14:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD2D8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:13:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3734724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:13:58 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5LJ3vVm003765 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:03:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 65783 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 19:03:57 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:03:57 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nathaniel last week Message-ID: <20050621190357.GA64770@words-l.org> References: <200506201819.j5KIJPdb010615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050620192753.027a10d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42B77DCE.8060509@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621091932.01beb2f0@pop.gwi.net> <1332072452.20050621101021@gailndan.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050621123221.01c11458@pop.gwi.net> <20050621172530.GA12453@words-l.org> <161214298.20050621115532@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <161214298.20050621115532@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:55:32AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/21/2005, 11:25 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >> One would think so, given the universality of word-processing software. > > DMH> I agree, philosophically AND biologically. Obviously, > DMH> most of their customers must like it the way it is. > > Doubt that. I think most people just don't bother to raise hell. > Think of all the times people walk out of a restaurant after a crappy > meal and when you pay the bill they say "how was everything tonight, > sir?" and the person says "just fine" and when he gets to the car says > "damn, I'll never go to that place again". If no one tells you that > you have a problem, you don't know that you have a problem. > > I will guess that picasa thinks their image features are more > important than their caption features....which is undoubtedly correct. Now I think there MUST be a hundred blogs over there praising the "simplicity of the editing interface"... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:23:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LJNeee012514 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:23:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:23:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD2DB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:23:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:23:39 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5LJDb1D006118 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:13:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 71364 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2005 19:13:37 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:13:37 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... Message-ID: <20050621191337.GA70704@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are winter solstices supposed to be sad? On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:27:58AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Happy Summer Solstice > > > BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 14:35:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LJZNee013653 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:35:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:35:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD2E5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:35:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3737318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:35:23 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LJPMUn007996 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:25:22 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5LJOpWM012068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:24:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:25:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Omaha lunch Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had lunch today with a local attorney for whom I did some consulting work a couple of years ago. We went to his club - a nice change of pace after dorm, room, and university cafeteria food. While we were eating, a group of four important-looking guys came in and sat at the next table. One was Warren Buffet. (I am still mad at him because of how shareholders got screwed when he bought Clayton Homes, but I restrained myself and did not go over and punch him in the nose.) Later, I saw his favorite resaurant, a local steak house - I am told that when Bill Gates comes to town, they eat there. I also found the Episcopal Cathedral - Trinity - downtown. I need to get there at least once while I am here, I think. Now - time to read again. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:15:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LKFQee018617 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:15:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:15:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD3053@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:15:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3742115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:15:26 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LKF2ap017004 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:15:02 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050621201501m9100ni24te>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:15:01 +0000 Message-ID: <034e01c5769d$ea9bf6c0$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a7050621065833412cf3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Where's Evelyn? Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:15:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: Foggers ARE a good idea. They'll work on just about anything! Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:58 AM Subject: Re: Where's Evelyn? > On 6/21/05, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >> In a message dated 6/21/2005 8:22:26 AM Central Daylight Time, >> natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >> I've found that putting those little ant-trap (actually ant-bait) things >> around where I've had an ant invasion works. >> >> >> They didn't work here; the ants are not just in the kitchen but in >> the carpeting, too. > > Can you talk to your apt mgr about getting an exterminator in? > > You might also look into foggers--I think some of those work on ants, too. > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:18:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LKIjee018937 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:18:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:18:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD306F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:18:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3742357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:18:45 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LKIjv1017521 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:18:45 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:18:44 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:18:05 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU supposed to be? >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 6/21/2005 3:13:37 PM >>> Are winter solstices supposed to be sad? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:44:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LKiIee021711 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:44:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:44:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD3135@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:44:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3744148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:44:18 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LKiHMQ021272 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:44:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23700214 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:44:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:44:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:44:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <125760108.20050621144415@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: at the risk of being hemispherist... In-Reply-To: <20050621191337.GA70704@words-l.org> References: <20050621191337.GA70704@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 233, in=84346, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/21/2005, 1:13 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> Are winter solstices supposed to be sad? Of course not. They signal the beginning of longer days. DMH> On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:27:58AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> Happy Summer Solstice From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 15:46:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LKkTee021934 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:46:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:46:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD314C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:46:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3744333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:46:29 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LKkS3b021577 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:46:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23455701 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:10:29 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:46:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:46:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1135200243.20050621144626@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha lunch In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 235, in=85523, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/21/2005, 1:25 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> One was Warren Buffet. (I am still mad at him because of how shareholders BKD> got screwed when he bought Clayton Homes, but I restrained myself and did BKD> not go over and punch him in the nose.) He was in Boise on Monday (or maybe yesterday). Anyway, on the news they showed him meeting the local powerball winner, some 85 million (yeah, he's single and 32), after some luncheon meeting with the local power brokers or whoever. Local guy asked if he had any advice for him. Buffet's answer was "Be sure to pay all your taxes". dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 17:27:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LMQtee001073 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:26:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:27:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD3643@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:26:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:26:55 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LMQsmA002494 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:26:55 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so440143rnf for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.11.39 with SMTP id 39mr50493rnk; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:26:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=sKpO6bDvtuFYJwhTnRco250jlr1B7xjfDH8QXskSOqcgrg6bGn/N7b/ccto5kN+pso/W0ZBvitz6Sw65qLHtqUN410+9q3G52OtE8W1X04P2NgNgvsp3t1CFy1pdpgsWo1rHsThm+zaD39PZSTByaIhQGhG2620I/dsqHEOgU9s= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:26:54 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: How did I miss this? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LMQtmA002495 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.economist.com/people/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4054912 Or rather, how is it that this guy got noticed only when he died? Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 17:37:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LMbEee002287 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:37:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:37:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD3685@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:37:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:37:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LMbDL2004880 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:37:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so20941nzk for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.49.2 with SMTP id w2mr78910nzw; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:37:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KjCvOz3KEWQNw9kEgcWvLbUG+os4z3gKLBXmK+RUAv+BQCoF2YwoKstYwsYw66P0hvQ7j4W7WQCmZqHmAWmeciNTIjV+zgQoNxhM1L1Mr9Ptu3VuTC93UJu/ckV+Z5Pome4LPIKs92zRCsIEhAT9XORovoLCZCLQDYWUe++dmD0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050621153738dca7a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:37:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How did I miss this? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5LMbEL2004882 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/21/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > http://www.economist.com/people/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4054912 > > Or rather, how is it that this guy got noticed only when he died? Thank you so much for posting this! I'd never heard of this guy before. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 18:12:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LNCZee006314 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:12:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:12:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD370D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:02:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3755820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:02:35 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LN2Y9b007347 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:02:34 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71905932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:02:33 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621160349.02656eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:03:58 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: How did I miss this? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050621153738dca7a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050621153738dca7a1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:37 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote: >On 6/21/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > > http://www.economist.com/people/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4054912 > > > > Or rather, how is it that this guy got noticed only when he died? > >Thank you so much for posting this! I'd never heard of this guy before. > >Karen I saw the movie. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 18:20:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5LNJree007122 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:19:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:19:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068F674@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:19:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3756456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:19:52 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LNJqQ5008806 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:19:52 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71910705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:19:47 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621162011.0267f510@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:21:09 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: How did I miss this? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621160349.02656eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <8ddfc8a7050621153738dca7a1@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621160349.02656eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:03 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote: >At 03:37 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote: >>On 6/21/05, Tony Harminc wrote: >> > http://www.economist.com/people/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4054912 >> > >> > Or rather, how is it that this guy got noticed only when he died? >> >>Thank you so much for posting this! I'd never heard of this guy before. >> >>Karen > >I saw the movie. > >Betty I guess it was a documentary. http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,943054,00.html Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 19:54:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M0sdee018143 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:54:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:54:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0068FCDA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:44:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3767360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:44:30 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M0iTvn021716 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:44:30 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 71931810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:44:29 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621174305.0260b5e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:45:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: How did I miss this? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621162011.0267f510@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <8ddfc8a7050621153738dca7a1@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621160349.02656eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621162011.0267f510@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>> > http://www.economist.com/people/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4054912 >> >>I saw the movie. > >I guess it was a documentary. > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,943054,00.html > >Betty My apologies. I was getting it mixed up with "Something the Lord Made" about Vivien Thomas who was also a black man with similar accomplishments. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:16:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1Fmee021225 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:15:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:16:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD3D71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:45:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3767505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:45:47 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M0jiuI021918 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:45:44 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005062200454401400mfuuhe>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:45:44 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: at the risk of being hemispherist... Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200506211656.j5LGuIs8013529@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Something cool ... we're leaning toward having eel at Sekai Sushi. Oh, yum. I love the broiled eel sushi. With avocado, it's one of my favorites. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:16:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1Fmee021226 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:15:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:16:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD3D37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:46:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3767652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:46:44 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M0kbQU022054 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:46:37 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050622004637016004pr7me>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:46:37 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: For Firefox users who have broadband Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:46:36 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062111142c0fe87a@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Huh. I've noticed a huge difference on two different machines. That's > why I posted it. > > Karen Thanks. It seems to have sped up response time at work, and it seems a bit zippier here at home, too. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:16:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1Fmee021223 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:15:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:16:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD3DBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3768220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:15 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M0rCSO022759 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:12 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005062200531101400mfu09e>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:53:12 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: How did I miss this? Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://www.economist.com/people/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4054912 > > Or rather, how is it that this guy got noticed only when he died? > > Tony H. I just saw a recent Economist cover yesterday - something about the new EU anthem being sung to the tune of the French one (I'm too tired to spell it) but the words for the French and Dutch being "non, non, non, non." I love it! I keep meaning to subscribe...but who has the time?! --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:43:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1h7ee024763 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:43:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:43:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0068FE65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:43:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3773180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:43:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M1h10A027581 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:43:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so69498nzk for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.96.9 with SMTP id t9mr182189nzb; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:43:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sS9JFXaue7bk5DyKrmRVOY400BmUdFsyjHfFru45ESEAZ9tG9/3k+SkZwYXpRuJytjRtN7+bXZtczSok+6OIbZggJBf/u7qKKI+agYzax/cz7SZP6Qnm/uMNBYC+xbCGhKAuo7paDDPBqo4newDUivCK709lbYxzoXDnBO7ySyU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062118434c64d855@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:43:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506211656.j5LGuIs8013529@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5M1h10A027582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/21/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Something cool ... we're leaning toward having eel at Sekai Sushi. > > Oh, yum. I love the broiled eel sushi. With avocado, it's one of my > favorites. Me, too. Don't need no rice nor avocado, either! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:53:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1rHee025911 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD3FBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:38:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3772547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:38:35 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M1cYn8027025 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:38:34 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005062201383401100s5e9pe>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:38:34 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Another Question Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:38:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B8BFFE.5020904@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Suggestions of music for Brad's service? Elvis gospel, of course. Wasn't it Brad that induced a bunch of us to buy the 2-disc Elvis gospel set? --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:53:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1rHee025910 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD4015@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:42:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3773173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:42:56 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M1guhT027565 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:42:56 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:42:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:42:28 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: RIP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cardinal Sin at 76 in Manilla of a heart attack BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:53:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1rHee025909 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD3FED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:37:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3772309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:37:54 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M1brBD026921 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:37:54 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005062201375301100s5e9me>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:37:53 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Song/Brad Question Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:37:52 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42B8BFD8.8040308@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Quick question from Steph in Kentucky: She asked whether I remembered > "a KLF song from circa 1990 that might have come up for discussion on > Words-L" -- Brad played it over and over, but Steph thinks he didn't > like it all that much, that it was "a bit dancey for his taste." She > said that she thought there was "some German connection." Does any of > this ring any bells with any of you? > > I found Steph's mail in this very quick e-check -- no time to read list > mail tonight, alas. Maybe "Justified and Ancient" by KLF featuring Tammy Wynette? It came out around then. It's a fun song. I have the MP3 if anyone's interested. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:53:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1rHee025904 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD3F97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:33:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3771666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:33:16 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M1XGBS026307 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:33:16 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.174.75]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050622013316.OWKG26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:33:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.174.75]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050622013315.VVNA29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:33:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42B8BFD8.8040308@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:33:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Song/Brad Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Quick question from Steph in Kentucky: She asked whether I remembered "a KLF song from circa 1990 that might have come up for discussion on Words-L" -- Brad played it over and over, but Steph thinks he didn't like it all that much, that it was "a bit dancey for his taste." She said that she thought there was "some German connection." Does any of this ring any bells with any of you? I found Steph's mail in this very quick e-check -- no time to read list mail tonight, alas. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:53:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1rHef025910 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD40D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:49:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3774026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:49:40 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M1nU1E028253 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:49:30 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:49:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:49:22 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Brennan Hawkins Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (the 11 yr old scout missing inthe mountains for 4 days) They found him - alive and well ! YaY! BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:53:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1rHee025901 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD3F85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:33:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3771678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:33:54 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M1XsX1026347 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:33:54 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.174.75]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050622013354.OXIQ26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:33:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.174.75]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050622013354.VVYC29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:33:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42B8BFFE.5020904@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:33:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Another Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Suggestions of music for Brad's service? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:53:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1rHef025911 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:53:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD40AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:47:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3773866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:47:24 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M1lNMU028056 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:47:24 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005062201472301400mg0f8e>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:47:23 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: at the risk of being hemispherist... Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:47:22 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062118434c64d855@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Oh, yum. I love the broiled eel sushi. With avocado, it's one of my > > favorites. > > Me, too. Don't need no rice nor avocado, either! > > Karen I've often wondered what an unagi/avocado/ikura roll would taste like. I bet my sushi haus would make one if I asked. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 20:55:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M1tcee026170 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:55:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:55:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD40FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:55:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3774475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:55:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M1tbf3029065 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:55:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so74387nzk for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr214541nzc; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:55:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qRpfNsTWjmSetz7M8TTbhp1vp8pz1gvVUL+vZVqhSjIcVqq7gqADStLLUJaMgv/xQ52lr4iTriSosbIxSIsArn1b8ZByPQdwRPbZGIUbJ9czkOWxiKwn+2/G9knbdkcYsCf1pkWy2JOGrNr8g8zcwRf8t2hncHleydgi1MDUVn4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506211855138fa884@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:55:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062118434c64d855@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5M1tbf3029067 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bleah! No stinkin' fish eggs! I'm getting hungry. On 6/21/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > Oh, yum. I love the broiled eel sushi. With avocado, it's one of my > > > favorites. > > > > Me, too. Don't need no rice nor avocado, either! > > > > Karen > > I've often wondered what an unagi/avocado/ikura roll would taste like. I bet > my sushi haus would make one if I asked. > > --Adam > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 22:34:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M3YIee005216 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:34:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:34:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD4C0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:34:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3793616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:34:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M3Y9R6006738 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:34:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so111282nzk for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr253781nzb; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:34:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=jFADNiTNgJlMqxx3ewASYx8sbLrT7ayt7CopIbS23V7ZLS7leqa/Snl9ODPo8eXTFJsWCq2kQZ9l0N9PjWRRDpARjaylThOWSnwzk2didGgQMMUNhFR1psmAgh1wkXGZAst5iGo+mWHqP3nu/zZC2dJff4SudhQFhgCrdOs6Y6E= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050621203426623be6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:34:09 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Dang! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5M3YAR6006740 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I need to go to sleep!!! But this bb game is too exciting! I can't stand it! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 22:49:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M3ncee007121 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:49:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:49:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD4CB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:49:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3794351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:49:37 -0400 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M3naoK008088 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:49:36 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.24.7363150c (3657) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:49:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:49:29 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Dang! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/21/2005 10:34:19 PM Central Daylight Time, innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: But this bb game is too exciting! The one on ABC? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 21 23:26:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M4Q1ee011495 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:26:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:26:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00690CE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:56:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3796328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:54:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M3s3NE008462 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:54:03 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so118743nzk for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.8 with SMTP id y8mr252816nzb; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:54:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ARrYJyObayjCKO/Bus/Dp+79I1egEuR/M32PsPf+TDrhpdZRb32ab2Y0XSD3q73cjc0eikb1W2nKJObCSBDxNBUMx6Vg/iK/eJ/g+uibGNgDsJbkNQa0/T+4uL3bhcK09arlQ5NyOHNcVAO7b9rrnWe8jtXmjdr9bAho3mdiI/4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:54:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! In-Reply-To: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5M3s4NE008463 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/21/05, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 6/21/2005 10:34:19 PM Central Daylight Time, > innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: > But this bb game is too exciting! > > The one on ABC? Yes!!!! Pistons are going to be repeat champions. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 00:38:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M5cWee020199 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:38:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:38:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD5B66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 1:28:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3816887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:18:10 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5M5I0xC016121 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:18:01 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5M5Hvtv010749 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:17:57 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5M5Hub3010744 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:17:57 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5M5HuqR003184 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:17:56 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5M5HtLg003179 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:17:55 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j5M5Hrof056302 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:17:55 +0900 Message-ID: <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Sentences Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:17:36 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter>> 3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. >> >> The grammar seems fine, but the definite article is non-idiomatic. (Or >> maybe I'm intuiting a subtle grammar rule; I don't have a lot of >> technical grammer knowledge.) Generic happy people don't need the >> article, and the sentence should be: >> >> Happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. > Natalie> I think the context is necessary to know whether "the" is > non-idiomatic. The context might be describing two sets of people in a > workplace, the happy ones and the unhappy ones. In that case "the" > would strike me as appropriate. 3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. 3c) Happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. 4) The happy are not always rich. 5) The rich are not always happy. I'm wondering whether 3b) and 4) are acceptable or not. Any comments will be appreciated. Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 02:20:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M7KRee030255 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:20:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:20:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD6591@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 3:20:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3836203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:20:27 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5M7KQAI027380 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:20:26 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062209184205214 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:18:42 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.4] ([128.39.111.4]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:20:25 +0200 Message-ID: <42B91138.6010803@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:20:24 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Back in Oslo References: <20050619090546.GA23771@yoccoz.multinix.com> <42B7E14B.6030209@gmail.com> <42B7F9B9.2010908@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050621052267ff3308@mail.gmail.com> <42B8156B.5090900@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42B8156B.5090900@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 07:20:25.0424 (UTC) FILETIME=[DBF73500:01C576FA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 21.06.2005 15:26: > That was one of the possibilities I considered, having heard/read that > the eye-to-brain mechanism adjusts well to that, but then I decided I'd > rather just wear glasses all the time instead of contacts. The only > time I ever miss contacts is when walking in rain. And that doesn't > happen frequently enough to make me consider ever wearing them again. And the reason I started to think about contact lenses, was my experience of steering a boat in rain and wind. And even a sunny day with some waves may create enough of a spray to have my glasses covert in salty mist. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 02:27:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M7Rree031013 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:27:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:27:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006920F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 3:27:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3836509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:27:53 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5M7Rq78027976 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:27:52 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062209260805235 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:26:08 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.4] ([128.39.111.4]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:27:51 +0200 Message-ID: <42B912F7.5030404@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:27:51 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gagh. Getting them out. References: <200506211245.j5LCjF52030132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B80FBD.7060800@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621081957.02786ac0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621081957.02786ac0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 07:27:51.0793 (UTC) FILETIME=[E605B610:01C576FB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark skrev 21.06.2005 17:20: > > I think you need to give your poor eyes a rest before starting this. Do > they perform lasik surgery in Norway? > Yes, my cousin's wife just had her eyes done and was happy about it. I still feel sceptic about it: one reason is that my eyes don't seem to be constant: every 2-4 years I have found that I should go up a size, so to speak in glasses, so what if I have lasik operations done and then after 3-5 years just have to start again with glasses? Basically I am afraid of doing something irreversible to my eyes (my poor eyes are a little better today - I find I can read the computer screen without the glasses I bought yesterday) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 02:36:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M7aVee032129 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:36:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:36:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00692172@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 3:36:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3837440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:36:31 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5M7aTtn028771 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:36:29 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062209344505271 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:34:45 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.4] ([128.39.111.4]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:36:28 +0200 Message-ID: <42B914FC.3060700@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:36:28 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Midsummer boating References: <200506211245.j5LCjF52030132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42B80FBD.7060800@gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621081957.02786ac0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621081957.02786ac0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 07:36:28.0381 (UTC) FILETIME=[19EEC8D0:01C576FD] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We'll take Friday as a vacation day so tomorrow, Thursday, after work we hed out the fjord. There is usually a whole fleet of leisure yachts/sailing boats out on Midsummer Eve (or St. John's Eve as we say in Norway), but we have a few alternatives we have thought of for where to anchor up if things are to crowded the first places we try. On Friday we have planned to meet my brother in a sound further down south in the fjord, and from there we plan to go to a city, Fredrikstad, where we might have the additional fun of tackling a river stream. Then on Sunday we will go all the way back to Oslo, which means a 7-9 hours trip. And I will have the aditional fun of trying to insert and remove contact lenses in a small rocking boat. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 02:40:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5M7ehee032673 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:40:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:40:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069228D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 3:40:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3837593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:40:43 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5M7egAF029102 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:40:42 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062209385805289 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:38:58 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.4] ([128.39.111.4]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:40:41 +0200 Message-ID: <42B915F9.3090800@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:40:41 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... References: <20050621191337.GA70704@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050621191337.GA70704@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2005 07:40:41.0891 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1095730:01C576FD] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog skrev 21.06.2005 21:13: >Are winter solstices supposed to be sad? > > >On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:27:58AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >>Happy Summer Solstice >> >> >>BrP >> >> > > > Winter solstices are happy because from then the daylight gets longer. Summer solstice is sad because from now on it gets darker. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 07:08:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MC85ee007526 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:08:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:08:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00692C9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 8:08:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3860162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:08:04 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MC84qh017351 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:08:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD72E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 8:08:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200506221208.j5MC84qh017351@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:08:04 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Sentences To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:17:36 +0900, Tanaka Akio wrote: >3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. >3c) Happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. >4) The happy are not always rich. >5) The rich are not always happy. > >I'm wondering whether 3b) and 4) are acceptable or not. >Any comments will be appreciated. > >Tanaka Akio 3b and 4 are both acceptable but not so likely to occur as 5. 3c has a "biblical language" flavor to it. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 07:59:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MCx3ee014237 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:59:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:59:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00692E2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 8:59:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3864765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:59:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MCwwXp026782 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:58:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so208658nzp for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.29 with SMTP id u29mr556820nzg; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.17 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:58:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IEAtG+2v1qgR+qm509gWiAncAqXzrIZwoMaFPyb2S7HRvGDrk6S3LnwmoZgRo3+4KQeIjHcmtY6q9sKFI3mT8rIn46/vgqOTMErm+YqePHhEYcIoEh85jL2eDSMmLcK0fs3l8/DbkiATMX+v3YDBOksROMW/10n/aFsazx6f4zc= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:58:56 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MCwxXp026785 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > 3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. While it can be parsed as a grammatical utterance, I'd think the person who said it is not a native speaker. > 3c) Happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. Completely acceptable, and somewhat formal/literary in tone. > 4) The happy are not always rich. Same as 3b. > 5) The rich are not always happy. Completely acceptable and normal-sounding. In conversation I'd tend to say "rich people" instead of "the rich" but I wouldn't notice anything unusual at all about someone saying 5. On further reflection, though, I think using "the rich" marks it as an aphorism, like "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer". Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:18:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MDIHee016920 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:18:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:18:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD75FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 9:18:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3866687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:18:17 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MDIGGc030606 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:18:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23678467 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:29:06 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:18:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:18:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1777514357.20050622071814@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: How did I miss this? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621174305.0260b5e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <8ddfc8a7050621153738dca7a1@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621160349.02656eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621162011.0267f510@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621174305.0260b5e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=98513, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/21/2005, 6:45 PM, Betty Clark wrote: BC> My apologies. I was getting it mixed up with "Something the Lord BC> Made" about Vivien Thomas who was also a black man with similar BC> accomplishments. Ah hah....that's the one I was thinking of. thanks. dan From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:27:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MDRhee018024 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:27:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:27:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006930A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 9:17:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3866636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:17:42 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MDHgFh030470 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:17:42 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23746879 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:17:59 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:18:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:17:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <587538370.20050622071740@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: How did I miss this? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050621162011.0267f510@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <8ddfc8a7050621153738dca7a1@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621160349.02656eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050621162011.0267f510@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 234, in=84577, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/21/2005, 5:21 PM, Betty Clark wrote: >>I saw the movie. >> >>Betty BC> I guess it was a documentary. BC> http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,943054,00.html BC> Betty I didn't see that one, but saw one about an American black in a somewhat similar situation. It came out in last few years....but at this early hour, and with incipient senility, am forgetting both the name of the movie and the surgical breakthrough involved. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:27:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MDRhee018030 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:27:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:27:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069300D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 9:23:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3867092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:23:12 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MDN27U031591 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:23:03 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23678793 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:33:52 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:23:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:23:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <773335356.20050622072301@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: at the risk of being hemispherist... In-Reply-To: <42B915F9.3090800@gmail.com> References: <20050621191337.GA70704@words-l.org> <42B915F9.3090800@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=98515, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/22/2005, 1:40 AM, Espen S. Ore wrote: ESO> Winter solstices are happy because from then the daylight gets longer. ESO> Summer solstice is sad because from now on it gets darker. I see the summer one as happy too.....longest day of the year, nice weather usually, etc. Of course I don't live as far north as you, but we get radical changes here at about 45 North. And of course this time we have a full moon to howl at too. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:28:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MDRhee018026 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:27:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:27:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006930AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 9:19:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3866884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:19:54 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MDJslh031082 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:19:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23747044 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:20:12 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:20:22 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:19:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dang! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 234, in=84580, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/21/2005, 9:54 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> The one on ABC? AFoA> Yes!!!! AFoA> Pistons are going to be repeat champions. In your dreams..... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:28:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MDRhee018029 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:27:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:28:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693007@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 9:21:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3867003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:21:18 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MDLIcg031338 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:21:18 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23506345 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:45:25 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:21:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:21:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <767397688.20050622072117@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Sentences In-Reply-To: <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=85744, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/21/2005, 11:17 PM, Tanaka Akio wrote: TA> 3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. TA> 3c) Happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. TA> 4) The happy are not always rich. TA> 5) The rich are not always happy. TA> I'm wondering whether 3b) and 4) are acceptable or not. TA> Any comments will be appreciated. I see 4 and 5 as equally acceptable. 3b seems awkward to me, but not "incorrect" to my ears. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:28:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MDSiee018184 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:28:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:28:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD75CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 9:18:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3865660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:18:44 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MD8hSI028923 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:08:44 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5MD8DOL004719 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:08:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:08:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: lasik Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I recommend exploring it ... my experience is that good practicioners are very conservative. My dr and I spent six months deciding I should do it - and at the last visit before he said ok, I thought he was going to say no. I was considering whether I should seek a 2nd opinion. I did only one eye - one was much worse than the other - that was both medically and financially conservative. Now I use off-the-counter reading glasses for fine print, long periods of reading, and long periods of computer use. Otherwise, I do not need glasses. I keep such glasses everywhere, since I can buy them for about $6 a pair. (One of my reasons for considering lasik was that I did not want to have to wear glasses when riding Maria.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 08:30:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MDUGee018405 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:30:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:30:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693047@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 9:30:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3867704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:30:16 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MDUFmn000379 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:30:15 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5MDUFvP008991 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:30:15 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MDU4sQ005525 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:30:05 -0400 Message-ID: <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Dang! Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:30:04 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" > 6/21/2005, 9:54 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >>> The one on ABC? > > AFoA> Yes!!!! > > AFoA> Pistons are going to be repeat champions. > > > In your dreams..... Sure has been a home-court series! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 09:26:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MEPoee025444 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:25:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:26:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693329@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:25:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3874667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:25:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MEPfMd012800 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:25:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so397298nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.13 with SMTP id s13mr577555nzc; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:25:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=orLqU43fQyoCa0JjSurCCRS6muReAeX5rKDx5h9Ru1/y82w3DqQ3pVvdCqfpauU7yiDCw11gx46M2QADMwSdpuu7aiKz1ozik43hLfO17cnK9mjAVLm8TfWG3cPTYhd/OmGJnV7+QmP24pQ6GJGTm5OduJAmPVBqJm23uai4nTw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062207256b9037df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:25:41 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! In-Reply-To: <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MEPfMd012802 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Alan Wild wrote: > Sure has been a home-court series! Yeah, like last night... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 09:26:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MEQHee025521 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:26:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:26:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD7984@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:26:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3874731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:26:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MEQD90012891 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:26:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so397659nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.2 with SMTP id y2mr567078nzb; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DJVu3JGLja5RRoergwgi9Q8c+ct1OrmBzjdzmQUDWF1YGEHGNEBAgmCrF3wYHKyrfKlw/DE6Dr0Ffz1OjP+Jk+lhOAf9dTKY+kjNwDEYtpzkqPEpNjXafiDnUvmHsnbXs3KuDg7eWUMDuUok8HcmsnbYgm9qxp5K2KZT50QkGZI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062207264d5dd547@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:26:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! In-Reply-To: <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MEQD90012893 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/21/2005, 9:54 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> The one on ABC? > > AFoA> Yes!!!! > > AFoA> Pistons are going to be repeat champions. > > > In your dreams..... Why, yes, in fact... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 09:49:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MEmnee028086 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:48:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:49:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069323E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:28:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3875077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:28:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MESmUr013398 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:28:48 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so289659wra for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.71 with SMTP id 71mr481642wro; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:28:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=t67FS4JL53mMXGZv9Ur7zzn+8QnS/Nqnxf5CJO0guVJzR884wm4Qt/2xoJcj1fZ6p50xGg7Ci/1seehUZK7rgigEPpKVq97BuJ0LtvnOaNPLp7pEkX8A6tiMfBymdTVF6Ezg9bcmQpkFt8htnz27zETh2ZFfNekovvS5MbTgwjQ= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:28:47 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42B8BFFE.5020904@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5MEmnee028086 Warren Zevon, Keep me in your heart. Marie On 6/21/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > Suggestions of music for Brad's service? > > Elvis gospel, of course. Wasn't it Brad that induced a bunch of us to buy > the 2-disc Elvis gospel set? > > --Adam > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 10:21:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MFLYee031925 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:21:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:21:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00693573@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:21:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3879592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:21:33 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MFLXGR024084 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:21:33 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5MFLXvP013270 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:21:33 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MFLNkU020981 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:21:24 -0400 Message-ID: <03a601c5773e$0d41f030$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705062207256b9037df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Dang! Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:21:23 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" > On 6/22/05, Alan Wild wrote: >> Sure has been a home-court series! > > Yeah, like last night... > > Karen Karen, if you hadn't have pointed out that one difference I'd have been thoroughly disappointed. Kindly note that the first few games weren't even close, and they went to the home teams. Why are you so obstinate? Is your bitch-switch broken in the On position? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 10:41:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MFf9ee002133 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:41:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:41:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00693465@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3881668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MFf8Ch028093 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so455111nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.2 with SMTP id y2mr616777nzb; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UYYo4pnEIpgYi0/OlufrlA4JAkWmqz65wmTZLM+UdgBeCot5cQmJMrXfPkvC7hj7b2sF/7zyd+C7X5NSc9JIup5927WwVfiHw0FnWDyfuSJY/Uou2/hhaFbFuxFm2Wg3Ui2nEBvibGb9hr9hOZX3W1Gm5sr61tJXdFfz53SDHCI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050622084131618508@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:41:08 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! In-Reply-To: <03a601c5773e$0d41f030$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705062207256b9037df@mail.gmail.com> <03a601c5773e$0d41f030$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MFf8Ch028095 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Alan Wild wrote: > Karen, if you hadn't have pointed out that one difference I'd have been > thoroughly disappointed. Kindly note that the first few games weren't even > close, and they went to the home teams. Of course. But that's the past, man! Move on!!!! That would have been an intelligent comment before the game, or even during the game (which is where I heard it first), but now, it's just stupid. > Why are you so obstinate? Is your bitch-switch broken in the On position? If you think this is me being bitchy, you need some serious recalibration. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 10:54:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MFspee003653 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:54:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:54:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069363A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:44:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3881925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:44:50 -0400 Received: from web60719.mail.yahoo.com (web60719.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MFin9X028792 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:44:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 5086 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jun 2005 15:44:49 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60719.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:44:49 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Bu8WbFt6fmuIvdemUs2ycL5KT1HamIpXv349xKJzIAshnB4Rk7iPqs8WdBLPlIS4LhjKCqXA35NRilaujNp/3sEfL+zvkk80pA3hEVxqBTMAbHyGVSxB7gJ5ytel69ERDukFdAUHfzxyeSZn4m0JnT0pfzcjOB6ZP5Pid/eMwwk= ; Message-ID: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:44:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: lasik To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > (One of my reasons for considering lasik was that I > did not want to have > to wear glasses when riding Maria.) Speaking of Maria, does she gallop faster since your experience wsith lasik? Its use is banned at many race tracks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:23:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MGNBee007416 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:23:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:23:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD7F09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:23:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3885622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:23:07 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MGN7Px004528 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:23:07 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050622162306m9100nhnooe>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:23:06 +0000 Message-ID: <01cf01c57746$b0846590$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> Subject: Re: Re: Sentences Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:23:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka: IMHO, 4, yes, 3b, maybe not. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tanaka Akio" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:17 AM Subject: Re: Sentences > Peter>> 3) The happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. >>> >>> The grammar seems fine, but the definite article is non-idiomatic. (Or >>> maybe I'm intuiting a subtle grammar rule; I don't have a lot of >>> technical grammer knowledge.) Generic happy people don't need the >>> article, and the sentence should be: >>> >>> Happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. >> > Natalie> I think the context is necessary to know whether "the" is >> non-idiomatic. The context might be describing two sets of people in a >> workplace, the happy ones and the unhappy ones. In that case "the" >> would strike me as appropriate. > > > 3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. > 3c) Happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. > 4) The happy are not always rich. > 5) The rich are not always happy. > > I'm wondering whether 3b) and 4) are acceptable or not. > Any comments will be appreciated. > > Tanaka Akio > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:30:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MGUZee008281 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:30:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:30:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069365E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:10:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3884328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:10:34 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MGAYDQ002448 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:10:34 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MGAVMT2265340 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:10:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:10:31 -0500 (CDT) From: because I can X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik In-Reply-To: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.2, Antispam-Data: 2005.6.22.15 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Lynne Weber wrote: > experience wsith lasik? Its use is banned at many > race tracks. It's hardly banned at all, just regulated. And noted in the program. -- Richard, pedant From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:30:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MGUZee008283 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:30:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:30:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00693799@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:27:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3885159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:27:41 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MGHeFb003830 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:17:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 77467 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 16:17:40 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:17:40 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... Message-ID: <20050622161740.GB69342@words-l.org> References: <20050621191337.GA70704@words-l.org> <125760108.20050621144415@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <125760108.20050621144415@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 02:44:15PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/21/2005, 1:13 PM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> Are winter solstices supposed to be sad? > > Of course not. They signal the beginning of longer days. That's crazy talk man ... I find long days sad! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:30:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MGUZee008284 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:30:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:30:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006936DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:26:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3885046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:26:33 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MGGWX9003671 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:16:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 75176 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 16:16:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:16:32 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... Message-ID: <20050622161632.GA69342@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This riposte is certainly witty, but are they? I am trying to understand the reason to be "hemispherist". On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 04:18:05PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > supposed to be? > > > >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 6/21/2005 3:13:37 PM >>> > Are winter solstices supposed to be sad? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:35:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MGZ5ee008925 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:35:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:35:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00693614@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:35:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3885896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:35:04 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MGP3rx004958 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:25:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 90639 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 16:25:03 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:25:03 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... Message-ID: <20050622162503.GD69342@words-l.org> References: <20050621191337.GA70704@words-l.org> <42B915F9.3090800@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B915F9.3090800@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 09:40:41AM +0200, Espen S. Ore wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog skrev 21.06.2005 21:13: > > >Are winter solstices supposed to be sad? > > > > > >On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:27:58AM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > > >>Happy Summer Solstice > >> > >> > >>BrP > > > Winter solstices are happy because from then the daylight gets longer. > Summer solstice is sad because from now on it gets darker. Hah! Thanks! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:46:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MGkMee010640 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006937E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:37:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3886956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:37:22 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MGbMJu006962 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:37:22 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MGbJWC467104 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:37:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:37:19 -0500 (CDT) From: because I can X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How did I miss this? In-Reply-To: <20050622162239.GC69342@words-l.org> Message-ID: References: <20050622162239.GC69342@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.2, Antispam-Data: 2005.6.22.17 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yeah? Well, Jack Kilby died, too. -- Richard, missed it by THAT much From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:46:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MGkMee010641 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693727@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:36:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3885976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:36:22 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MGQKq9005174 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:26:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 91646 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 16:26:20 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:26:20 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences Message-ID: <20050622162620.GE69342@words-l.org> References: <200506221208.j5MC84qh017351@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506221208.j5MC84qh017351@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 08:08:04AM -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:17:36 +0900, Tanaka Akio > wrote: > > >3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. > >3c) Happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. > >4) The happy are not always rich. > >5) The rich are not always happy. > > > >I'm wondering whether 3b) and 4) are acceptable or not. > >Any comments will be appreciated. > > > >Tanaka Akio > > 3b and 4 are both acceptable but not so likely to occur > as 5. 3c has a "biblical language" flavor to it. Wrong. 3b is almost totally unacceptable. 4 is entirely acceptable. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:46:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MGkMee010645 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00693804@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:41:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3886364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:41:11 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MGVAn0005854 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:31:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 94403 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 16:31:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:31:09 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences Message-ID: <20050622163109.GF69342@words-l.org> References: <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 08:58:56AM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > 3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. > > While it can be parsed as a grammatical utterance, I'd think the > person who said it is not a native speaker. > > > 3c) Happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. > > Completely acceptable, and somewhat formal/literary in tone. > > > 4) The happy are not always rich. > > Same as 3b. > > > 5) The rich are not always happy. > > Completely acceptable and normal-sounding. In conversation I'd tend > to say "rich people" instead of "the rich" but I wouldn't notice > anything unusual at all about someone saying 5. On further > reflection, though, I think using "the rich" marks it as an aphorism, > like "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer". "The rich" is commoner than you may think ... taxing the rich, taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor, lifestyles of the rich and famous, etc ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:46:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MGkMee010644 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:46:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069366C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:45:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3886842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:45:47 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MGZirv006699 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:35:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 97181 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 16:35:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:35:44 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! Message-ID: <20050622163544.GG69342@words-l.org> References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705062207256b9037df@mail.gmail.com> <03a601c5773e$0d41f030$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050622084131618508@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050622084131618508@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:41:08AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > Why are you so obstinate? Is your bitch-switch broken in the On position? > > If you think this is me being bitchy, you need some serious recalibration. 'Don't need think when I got talk ... "bitch-switch broken in the On position" ... Ha! Haha! That's the stuff of talk shows! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 11:52:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MGqgee011448 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:52:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:52:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD7F86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:32:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3885577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:32:41 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MGMeS0004472 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:22:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 87731 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 16:22:39 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:22:39 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How did I miss this? Message-ID: <20050622162239.GC69342@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 06:26:54PM -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > http://www.economist.com/people/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4054912 > > Or rather, how is it that this guy got noticed only when he died? Everybody was discussing "Survivor" ... duh! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:12:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MHCKee013874 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:12:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:12:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006938B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:02:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3889578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:02:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MH2cmx011128 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:02:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so510968nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.14 with SMTP id m14mr667043nzb; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:02:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uHaN1oeYZ3WrHXxGdKpDVKDWLwlmOsoniqRr6qLYQexEV8A4gN5ekRQSU+AKnaUUbX+IVeerqqqhL+DGAmX4qIK5lEfKSNYwWSwI5OcpkRDxpKYyQgd36zqh1Wj2XTi+2tGhPQ+yzMCfwGZj7J+Gkk+t9/ds/HsVEB0eBdNDE+w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062210025d4dc8aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:02:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! In-Reply-To: <20050622163544.GG69342@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705062207256b9037df@mail.gmail.com> <03a601c5773e$0d41f030$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050622084131618508@mail.gmail.com> <20050622163544.GG69342@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MH2cmx011130 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:41:08AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > Why are you so obstinate? Is your bitch-switch broken in the On position? > > > > If you think this is me being bitchy, you need some serious recalibration. > > 'Don't need think when I got talk ... "bitch-switch broken in > the On position" ... Ha! Haha! That's the stuff of talk shows! Bad ones that get cancelled... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:12:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MHCKee013875 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:12:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:12:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693801@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:02:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3889535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:02:19 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MH2Ito011067 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:02:18 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22757991 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:44:31 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:02:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:02:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: lasik In-Reply-To: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 232, in=82561, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/22/2005, 9:44 AM, Lynne Weber wrote: LW> Speaking of Maria, does she gallop faster since your LW> experience wsith lasik? Its use is banned at many LW> race tracks. You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:14:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MHEUee014193 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:14:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:14:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD81E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:14:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3891575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:14:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MHETAA013736 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:14:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so518953nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.17 with SMTP id q17mr682227nzq; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:14:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G/kkpY49T/8LcQNaeSU4/QXwm1BnD9V9t7p3LGKi7di5NleV+Ato8u1FArPkWkBeFUqPwAJlVvAV0qW6pmgR1Mr2EXsfhSiyNC0hHTQF8zeFQtI0+ptZqUU0xh43Msilhbmu090u8k7zyLpHfn0132D1F+wrjvDsmQJy6aA7ehQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:14:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik In-Reply-To: <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MHETAA013739 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/22/2005, 9:44 AM, Lynne Weber wrote: > > LW> Speaking of Maria, does she gallop faster since your > LW> experience wsith lasik? Its use is banned at many > LW> race tracks. > > You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe > Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:24:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MHOKee015200 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:24:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:24:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693924@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3892980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:16 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MHOFZ2015653 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:16 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5MHOGvR017915 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:16 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MHOC5M011164 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:13 -0400 Message-ID: <004001c5774f$35e99770$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705062207256b9037df@mail.gmail.com> <03a601c5773e$0d41f030$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050622084131618508@mail.gmail.com> <20050622163544.GG69342@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705062210025d4dc8aa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Dang! Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:12 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" > On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:41:08AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> > >> > > Why are you so obstinate? Is your bitch-switch broken in the On >> > > position? >> > >> > If you think this is me being bitchy, you need some serious >> > recalibration. >> >> 'Don't need think when I got talk ... "bitch-switch broken in >> the On position" ... Ha! Haha! That's the stuff of talk shows! > > Bad ones that get cancelled... How true... how dare I come out with a lame cliché on a listserv with meebers of the brightest and boldest sort, whom are fit and trim, and lead glowing professions, whom effervesce with the very wit and charm of humanity... How dare I? oh... 'sorry... wrong list From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:28:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MHSGee015661 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:28:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:28:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693933@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:28:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3893197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:28:16 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MHSFE7016159 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:28:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22761207 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:10:28 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:28:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:28:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: lasik In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 232, in=82572, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/22/2005, 11:14 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe >> Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? AFoA> It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. Ahhhh.....thanks for the heads up. I couldn't quite imagine banning it on the jockeys, but ya never know.... dan, who is not up on horses or racing From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 12:45:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MHihee017102 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:44:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:44:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006938A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:44:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3894398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:44:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MHifOA018206 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:44:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so539391nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.135.4 with SMTP id i4mr686885nzd; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:44:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PDfLz3vBvCkU3ZS8k4epmwjwBGDTW3HONxIOROrOBww6IBF/kS6ZgZ/spwG25Iv8aSUQ0na8Mifx8M+SotZ99trmcxb9hvIu9DLWpJFm2E8Rg/e4ArYu5HLDjZ/qgNE+Mj4C7ytqPj64wtzQGTHDwkbaO6jtQHXQdPxd43blY04= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:44:40 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik In-Reply-To: <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MHifOA018211 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/22/2005, 11:14 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe > >> Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? > > AFoA> It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. > > Ahhhh.....thanks for the heads up. I couldn't quite imagine banning > it on the jockeys, but ya never know.... > > dan, who is not up on horses or racing Neither am I. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 13:00:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MI08ee018582 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:00:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:00:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00693917@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:00:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3895983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:00:07 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MI03CJ021207 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:00:03 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 114399844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:00:02 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:01:33 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: lasik In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:44 AM 6/22/2005, Karen wrote: >On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 6/22/2005, 11:14 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > >> You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe > > >> Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? > > > > AFoA> It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. > > > > Ahhhh.....thanks for the heads up. I couldn't quite imagine banning > > it on the jockeys, but ya never know.... > > > > dan, who is not up on horses or racing > >Neither am I. Oh, good. Let's talk about horses and racing! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 13:10:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MIAHee019843 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:10:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:10:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD8469@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:10:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3896783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:10:16 -0400 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MIADlm022759 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:10:13 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.1c0.2b17163b (4592) for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:09:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c0.2b17163b.2feb036d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:09:49 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Dang! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/22/2005 12:03:01 PM Central Daylight Time, innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: Bad ones that get cancelled... Then what explains the popularity of Jerry Springer? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 13:11:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MIBnee019916 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:11:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:11:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693AA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:11:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3896912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:11:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MIBmQG023042 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:11:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so557735nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.15 with SMTP id h15mr714141nzh; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:11:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ojora0Wm8aGflrViupHSB2OuizCosGXVp9nI3OEpLdDACn4nP0pRjFc3ENYUJGe/UBhy920f9JF4+RohEZtVQdmIzqq9DbKqHEbF12trykNzxfQAmuOeDxZoDgYUiYjjfTMvAAZhuyHWozrA6cjGEQ5LQ4qsglB+9k4ffMphO0g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062211113b3ac801@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:11:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MIBmQG023044 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 10:44 AM 6/22/2005, Karen wrote: > >On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > 6/22/2005, 11:14 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > >> You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe > > > >> Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? > > > > > > AFoA> It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. > > > > > > Ahhhh.....thanks for the heads up. I couldn't quite imagine banning > > > it on the jockeys, but ya never know.... > > > > > > dan, who is not up on horses or racing > > > >Neither am I. > > Oh, good. Let's talk about horses and racing! Or what a bitch I am--I don't know anything about that, either! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:13:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJCvee025734 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:12:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:13:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006939E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:22:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3897843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:22:54 -0400 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MIMruD024869 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:22:53 -0400 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MIMovF602166 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:22:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:22:50 -0500 (CDT) From: because I can X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.2, Antispam-Data: 2005.6.22.20 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Betty Clark wrote: > Oh, good. Let's talk about horses and racing! Their names can be, at most, 18 characters long. Standardbreds can be artificially inseminated, but not thoroughbreds. If you look at Ruffian's racing record[*], you will think it must be some kind of misprint. Modern Art was a real son of a bitch, but man, he loved his goat companion. And the cat. Thank you, that will be all for now. -- Richard [*] don't look at the last line, it'll break your heart all over again From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:29:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJTFee027284 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:29:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:29:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD8760@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:29:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3902990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:29:14 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJJCEJ002317 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:19:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 86039 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 19:19:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:19:11 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik Message-ID: <20050622191911.GC79968@words-l.org> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 12:14:28PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 6/22/2005, 9:44 AM, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > > LW> Speaking of Maria, does she gallop faster since your > > LW> experience wsith lasik? Its use is banned at many > > LW> race tracks. > > > > You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe > > Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? > > It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:30:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJUiee027478 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:30:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:30:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD876A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:30:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3903104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:30:43 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJKaI1002602 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:20:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 86565 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 19:20:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:20:36 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik Message-ID: <20050622192036.GE79968@words-l.org> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 11:01:33AM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 10:44 AM 6/22/2005, Karen wrote: > >On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > >> 6/22/2005, 11:14 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >> > >> >> You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe > >> >> Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? > >> > >> AFoA> It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. > >> > >> Ahhhh.....thanks for the heads up. I couldn't quite imagine banning > >> it on the jockeys, but ya never know.... > >> > >> dan, who is not up on horses or racing > > > >Neither am I. > > Oh, good. Let's talk about horses and racing! Did you know that Lasik was banned on the horses? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:37:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJbTee028073 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00693CFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:17:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3901556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:17:28 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJ7Ptl032237 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:07:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 80209 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 19:07:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:07:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik Message-ID: <20050622190725.GA79968@words-l.org> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 11:10:31AM -0500, because I can wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Lynne Weber wrote: > > experience wsith lasik? Its use is banned at many > > race tracks. > > It's hardly banned at all, just regulated. > > And noted in the program. > > -- > Richard, pedant Is that you, Richard? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:37:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJbTee028077 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00693D96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:31:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3903271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:31:29 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJLSEn002819 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:21:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 87114 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 19:21:28 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:21:28 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! Message-ID: <20050622192128.GF79968@words-l.org> References: <1c0.2b17163b.2feb036d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1c0.2b17163b.2feb036d@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 02:09:49PM -0400, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 6/22/2005 12:03:01 PM Central Daylight Time, > innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: > Bad ones that get cancelled... > > > Then what explains the popularity of Jerry Springer? One thing Jerry understood very early in life was never to use the term "bitch-switch". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:37:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJbTee028076 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00693D89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:29:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3903737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:29:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MJTY8M003923 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:29:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so563055nzo for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.11 with SMTP id o11mr264810nzo; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:29:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m99wzKM6q3S1z5gZFqFB9KuCX3Q5j4YfI4jHNaSQlg3sGYF0XN8YNNg0ULwh0dv0nNa5RHTD01CfV+EQ3B6EC1W04Xt6PBDAJ6Ov185SqE7hp3yVH5UwH9YWvL1HO6rROCxW/fRimcKalGhJpWvPWgDJ3d7D2l6VbhefBVD5DJ8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062212295c5d5e86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:29:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! In-Reply-To: <20050622191025.GB79968@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705062207256b9037df@mail.gmail.com> <03a601c5773e$0d41f030$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050622084131618508@mail.gmail.com> <20050622163544.GG69342@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705062210025d4dc8aa@mail.gmail.com> <20050622191025.GB79968@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MJTY8M003924 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, you're right. I let my wishful thinking run rampant for a moment there... Karen On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 12:02:37PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:41:08AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why are you so obstinate? Is your bitch-switch broken in the On position? > > > > > > > > If you think this is me being bitchy, you need some serious recalibration. > > > > > > 'Don't need think when I got talk ... "bitch-switch broken in > > > the On position" ... Ha! Haha! That's the stuff of talk shows! > > > > Bad ones that get cancelled... > > 'Wrong > > It's the ones that never go away. > > 'Also, sports columns ... > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:37:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJbTee028075 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693CA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:20:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3901727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:20:28 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJAQca032593 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:10:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 81851 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 19:10:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:10:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! Message-ID: <20050622191025.GB79968@words-l.org> References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705062207256b9037df@mail.gmail.com> <03a601c5773e$0d41f030$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050622084131618508@mail.gmail.com> <20050622163544.GG69342@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705062210025d4dc8aa@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062210025d4dc8aa@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 12:02:37PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:41:08AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > > Why are you so obstinate? Is your bitch-switch broken in the On position? > > > > > > If you think this is me being bitchy, you need some serious recalibration. > > > > 'Don't need think when I got talk ... "bitch-switch broken in > > the On position" ... Ha! Haha! That's the stuff of talk shows! > > Bad ones that get cancelled... 'Wrong It's the ones that never go away. 'Also, sports columns ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:37:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJbTee028074 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00693D8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:29:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3903025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:29:50 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJJm3p002430 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:19:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 86203 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 19:19:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:19:48 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! Message-ID: <20050622191948.GD79968@words-l.org> References: <24.7363150c.2fea39c9@aol.com> <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705062207256b9037df@mail.gmail.com> <03a601c5773e$0d41f030$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050622084131618508@mail.gmail.com> <20050622163544.GG69342@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705062210025d4dc8aa@mail.gmail.com> <004001c5774f$35e99770$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004001c5774f$35e99770$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 01:24:12PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > >On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >>On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:41:08AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >>> > >>> > Why are you so obstinate? Is your bitch-switch broken in the On > >>> > position? > >>> > >>> If you think this is me being bitchy, you need some serious > >>> recalibration. > >> > >>'Don't need think when I got talk ... "bitch-switch broken in > >>the On position" ... Ha! Haha! That's the stuff of talk shows! > > > >Bad ones that get cancelled... > > How true... how dare I come out with a lame clich? on a listserv with > meebers of the brightest and boldest sort, whom are fit and trim, and lead > glowing professions, whom effervesce with the very wit and charm of > humanity... How dare I? > > oh... 'sorry... wrong list 'not at all. Please continue, this is fascinating From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:37:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJbTef028073 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:37:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693CEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:32:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3903349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:32:19 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJMI0F003014 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:22:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 87293 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 19:22:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:22:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik Message-ID: <20050622192218.GG79968@words-l.org> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705062211113b3ac801@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062211113b3ac801@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 01:11:48PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/22/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 10:44 AM 6/22/2005, Karen wrote: > > >On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > 6/22/2005, 11:14 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > > > >> You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe > > > > >> Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? > > > > > > > > AFoA> It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. > > > > > > > > Ahhhh.....thanks for the heads up. I couldn't quite imagine banning > > > > it on the jockeys, but ya never know.... > > > > > > > > dan, who is not up on horses or racing > > > > > >Neither am I. > > > > Oh, good. Let's talk about horses and racing! > > Or what a bitch I am--I don't know anything about that, either! How about switches in the On position? That's a great topic! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:41:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJfLee028366 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:41:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:41:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00693DE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:41:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3904909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:41:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MJfJmN006019 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:41:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so614425nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.49.2 with SMTP id w2mr761492nzw; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:41:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z23mHc7KvKg/B4oW27FdrZw2DqYzB3HW/GJOGYSyYVoPto8xIAKiDVs6IPQUv0v8ll0U1kKzIS44phFoN3GBHZzIpvH4/99LWzrPSi+IFFe2m37XuTrcInj9fZfA2KDtJhjSIkuez1vF4MgTOaiNhjEVA2hTW+59C+x9Vof27m4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506221241765480da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:41:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik In-Reply-To: <20050622192218.GG79968@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705062211113b3ac801@mail.gmail.com> <20050622192218.GG79968@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MJfJmN006020 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 01:11:48PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/22/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > At 10:44 AM 6/22/2005, Karen wrote: > > > >On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > > 6/22/2005, 11:14 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe > > > > > >> Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? > > > > > > > > > > AFoA> It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. > > > > > > > > > > Ahhhh.....thanks for the heads up. I couldn't quite imagine banning > > > > > it on the jockeys, but ya never know.... > > > > > > > > > > dan, who is not up on horses or racing > > > > > > > >Neither am I. > > > > > > Oh, good. Let's talk about horses and racing! > > > > Or what a bitch I am--I don't know anything about that, either! > > How about switches in the On position? That's a great topic! The switch for my lust for you is always on, sweetie. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:41:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJfpee028421 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:41:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:41:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00693C29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3904952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Received: from web60712.mail.yahoo.com (web60712.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.215]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJfoNV006126 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:41:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 66602 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jun 2005 19:41:50 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60712.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:41:49 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qsTFcDP+Vv+dF++fu3mzs9LeB5OKVqnTmem5czHpCEmJKeR8+NLviKQ4ElTzdEaAWU6sK6wVNxD9j+RA1k31ZchQy5ZeA2T4Rsh4eovkzbL5ot+ZJ1R/U1OsJgH3UtlbcA/J+zxr05qPwQUmQtMr0tyyGoSDaJiUpiq6qdaj50A= ; Message-ID: <20050622194150.66600.qmail@web60712.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:41:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: lasik To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- because I can wrote: > It's hardly banned at all, just regulated. > > And noted in the program. Well, there you are. I'm living in the past once again. Lasix USED to be quite controversial and banned at some tracks. I have wagered at one of them in the past - Liberty Bell in Philly. ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:43:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJhJee028595 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:43:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00693C35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:43:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3905149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:43:18 -0400 Received: from web60720.mail.yahoo.com (web60720.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.208]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJhH4x006446 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:43:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 40127 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jun 2005 19:43:17 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60720.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:43:17 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OXJDcCejOXGBg6Fmg/VtOiWJhvycBu70a9Gq0gZHFENxfcer2AiBFYOZCS3J7AspiBgIPuHNan3P4lEuTQBf69MR7+SVjDffVwCDRXVnAZe3SeKqheR87BiZnCvwv9KegfVNQvbP1rzUczl6s+oU9+byfSIZmb2rqgyh/lTfyQU= ; Message-ID: <20050622194317.40125.qmail@web60720.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:43:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20050622161632.GA69342@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > This riposte is certainly witty, but are they? I am > trying to understand the reason to be > "hemispherist". It's just a half-a__ term. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:48:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJmSee029242 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD8822@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:38:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3904613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:38:27 -0400 Received: from web60718.mail.yahoo.com (web60718.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJcFIp005373 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:38:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 69599 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jun 2005 19:38:15 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60718.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:38:15 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jOtRbIMjrkNHa4L8Dlk5rGAw/9LYySngNe36wMvop/VJrbqK10WppPx/Q8R+bry301zXMHw+1SQrm4nteoi2GRXHuq+bebWXj8m22PTHMPWzUVoTMphjapJ757oV6IRRCiYNKHmHgsxG2FXlGGCMYudL5/Vb4Ht3UMghKHAntAU= ; Message-ID: <20050622193815.69597.qmail@web60718.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:38:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: lasik To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Dan Lester wrote: > 6/22/2005, 9:44 AM, Lynne Weber wrote: > > LW> Speaking of Maria, does she gallop faster since > your > LW> experience wsith lasik? Its use is banned at > many > LW> race tracks. > > You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the > jockeys? I believe > Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? Right, Bethany did. I'm just trying to confuse the issue. At the track, it is mostly verboten for the horses. > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:48:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJmSee029240 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD8826@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:44:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3905283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:44:28 -0400 Received: from web60711.mail.yahoo.com (web60711.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.214]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MJiP9j006619 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:44:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 73864 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jun 2005 19:44:25 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60711.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:44:25 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TZ8iFgKHfgFH4PdObvvuZu6B3Y5EmnubejXKAfLkvXX0kS6uPN5bMUB64YksYXUDu3cNodIVddvdxj19j0Xb/rV6UK9SQJCvo/qJ7wlIJFMr6o4WsTq9BJ38DTO2e9qOxU7upDg3cRA5B57OBPHZm7bcrdh0nl9qLX+HFJTjVVQ= ; Message-ID: <20050622194425.73862.qmail@web60711.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:44:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Sob! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- A Friend of Andy wrote: > I was all excited about the solar sail project--I > remember reading a > book in my childhood about the solar wind, and I > thought they were > making it up. It seems a distinct possibility, at this juncture. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:48:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJmSee029243 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:48:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD8824@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:40:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3904809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:40:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MJeF2O005804 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:40:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so613809nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.13 with SMTP id s13mr788162nzc; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:40:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hvWsEKuN3S2wDrTIEZWL0C3n/TfBdKwyVosu8n4H84IouWS5Crv5WkErAkc11EfDFaTHyYorr2+SeoZ6cYbUhO/x/Mn1FzOUx7P8ay7dXVNqO3z+QKqWa1svYjQOfDeph0ZuFjcKeizKTi/wuVzRerrwRKxhhpFH/1zvjVNWHUk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:40:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Sob! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MJeF2O005805 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was all excited about the solar sail project--I remember reading a book in my childhood about the solar wind, and I thought they were making it up. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 14:51:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MJp9ee029526 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:51:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:51:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD8873@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3905871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:03 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MJp23D007852 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23548508 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:15:11 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:51:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:51:00 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <335312537.20050622135100@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: lasik In-Reply-To: <20050622193815.69597.qmail@web60718.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <20050622193815.69597.qmail@web60718.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=86013, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/22/2005, 1:38 PM, Lynne Weber wrote: >> You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the >> jockeys? I believe >> Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? LW> Right, Bethany did. I'm just trying to confuse the LW> issue. At the track, it is mostly verboten for the LW> horses. Lasix, not lasik. Right? But either way, you did a fine job of stirring the pot. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:18:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKIkee032512 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:18:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:18:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693E37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:18:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3908526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:18:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MKIiUt012817 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:18:45 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5MKIhsG016927 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:18:43 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5MKIhXS016925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:18:43 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:18:43 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik Message-ID: <20050622201843.GA16896@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <20050622191911.GC79968@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050622191911.GC79968@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Was that a real HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or an insincere? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:35:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKYqee001613 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:34:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:35:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693E60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:24:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3909025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:24:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MKOoqo013772 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:24:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so573237nzp for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.18 with SMTP id l18mr816020nzl; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rjqXPBfMb2kAYP6mlrzn7a0wfUUJpZ/mXYUknWwkdxN1BOn8lqUcak+r7T/OtFM4uraCu4gceQ/UJEnqotNEvZTZxY7DdxbPky6Mo0Twy8+eqop6HjEzv15Lcvk/BLboI3xyQZeRWJhfiBxh28aY4PdxD69I6T9b6HQkzMsc0NI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062213244ee5325e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:24:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik In-Reply-To: <20050622201843.GA16896@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <20050622191911.GC79968@words-l.org> <20050622201843.GA16896@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MKOpqo013778 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, steph wrote: > = > = HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Was that a real HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or an insincere? My bet's on insincere. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:35:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKYqee001614 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:34:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:35:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00693D72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:28:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3909445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:28:34 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MKSXOb014504 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:28:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so118694wri for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.28.70 with SMTP id b70mr679881wrb; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:28:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eqhnT2CD1780FYvzP5OaXS4wPNuQAUnLyKAkfoiaYKiephlZHZThbGyQEoaMNWGEMzjnu2ZaO3L9X2WZ6q9zQFX8hLdZvey9T02fnZIkO/3XhNxbH0Nq0Oi2Gcnu0CNjTeZgwTaZ+bpz5vdTrFE5JZD5Wcnbr/rgAi0vDR46SOE= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:28:32 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5MKYqee001614 > > I was all excited about the solar sail project--I remember reading a > book in my childhood about the solar wind, and I thought they were > making it up. --Karen > Does the solar wind have anything at all to do with the solar sail? There definitely is such a thing as the solar wind. It helps blow the aurora earthward. But the solar sail is simply using the energy of the sun as fuel. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:44:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKi9ee003068 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:44:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:44:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FD8AC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:44:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3909819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:44:09 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MKY8Jb015279 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:34:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 25845 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 20:34:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:34:08 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik Message-ID: <20050622203408.GD23931@words-l.org> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <20050622191911.GC79968@words-l.org> <20050622201843.GA16896@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705062213244ee5325e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062213244ee5325e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:24:50PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/22/05, steph wrote: > > = > > = HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Was that a real HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or an insincere? > > My bet's on insincere. Well, in that case I am just jealous. Or bemused. Whichever. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:50:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKohee004016 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:50:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:50:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00693DBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:43:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3909715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:43:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MKXTpn015128 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:33:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 25146 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 20:33:28 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:33:28 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik Message-ID: <20050622203328.GC23931@words-l.org> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <20050622191911.GC79968@words-l.org> <20050622201843.GA16896@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050622201843.GA16896@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:18:43PM +0200, steph wrote: > = > = HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Was that a real HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or an insincere? Hehe From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:51:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKohee004010 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:50:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693EB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:41:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3909623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:41:15 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MKVEk3014905 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:31:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 24786 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 20:31:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:31:13 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dang! Message-ID: <20050622203113.GA23931@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a70506212054694de07@mail.gmail.com> <991972860.20050622071953@gailndan.com> <036a01c5772e$80acb3d0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a705062207256b9037df@mail.gmail.com> <03a601c5773e$0d41f030$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> <8ddfc8a7050622084131618508@mail.gmail.com> <20050622163544.GG69342@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705062210025d4dc8aa@mail.gmail.com> <20050622191025.GB79968@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705062212295c5d5e86@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062212295c5d5e86@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 02:29:33PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Yes, you're right. I let my wishful thinking run rampant for a moment there... > > Karen > > On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 12:02:37PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:41:08AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Why are you so obstinate? Is your bitch-switch broken in the On position? > > > > > > > > > > If you think this is me being bitchy, you need some serious recalibration. > > > > > > > > 'Don't need think when I got talk ... "bitch-switch broken in > > > > the On position" ... Ha! Haha! That's the stuff of talk shows! > > > > > > Bad ones that get cancelled... > > > > 'Wrong > > > > It's the ones that never go away. > > > > 'Also, sports columns ... Well, flip the wishful-switch to the Off position. (Hm! Maybe that will also flip the gmail's moronic top-post switch) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:51:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKohee004008 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:50:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693EB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:40:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3910277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:40:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MKeglJ016375 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:40:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so649120nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr824106nzc; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:40:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VnGsrgWEAclNwDIGX9aGagjTbIRemrq07hamwpYGLSqajXKw65dFRJH0PbFVTlRB+4E39fnlsw4r2KT/8FbSbr6fTBhWXB3owXkZp4qXDi5FnZVuK9o2fp/o5ibRBXQcvGiQ/kmpP+tx3qseOGvph1rHHIHUYcaK+f/OSpaZeN8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:40:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MKeglJ016376 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, bonniemaev wrote: > Does the solar wind have anything at all to do with the solar sail? There > definitely is such a thing as the solar wind. It helps blow the aurora > earthward. But the solar sail is simply using the energy of the sun as fuel. In a word, no. Here's an article that makes it explicit: http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050621/NEWS06/506210435/1012 and here's a description: http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/sun_wind.htm Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:51:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKohee004015 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:50:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00693DB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:42:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3909684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:42:44 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MKWh82015038 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:32:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 25028 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 20:32:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:32:43 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik Message-ID: <20050622203243.GB23931@words-l.org> References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705062211113b3ac801@mail.gmail.com> <20050622192218.GG79968@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221241765480da@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506221241765480da@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 02:41:19PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 01:11:48PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 6/22/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > At 10:44 AM 6/22/2005, Karen wrote: > > > > >On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > > > 6/22/2005, 11:14 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe > > > > > > >> Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? > > > > > > > > > > > > AFoA> It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhhh.....thanks for the heads up. I couldn't quite imagine banning > > > > > > it on the jockeys, but ya never know.... > > > > > > > > > > > > dan, who is not up on horses or racing > > > > > > > > > >Neither am I. > > > > > > > > Oh, good. Let's talk about horses and racing! > > > > > > Or what a bitch I am--I don't know anything about that, either! > > > > How about switches in the On position? That's a great topic! > > The switch for my lust for you is always on, sweetie. Thanks for this wonderful pun. Can something that's always on be called a switch? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:51:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKohef004016 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:50:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693ECC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:45:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3909944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:45:59 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MKZwcZ015599 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:35:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 26507 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 20:35:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:35:58 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! Message-ID: <20050622203558.GE23931@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 04:28:32PM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > I was all excited about the solar sail project--I remember reading a > > book in my childhood about the solar wind, and I thought they were > > making it up. --Karen > > > Does the solar wind have anything at all to do with the solar sail? There > definitely is such a thing as the solar wind. It helps blow the aurora > earthward. But the solar sail is simply using the energy of the sun as fuel. "Using the energy of the sun as fuel" is such a general description that it must be true. Now, what form of energy is it? Is it (*scary music*) the solar wind? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:51:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKohee004013 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:50:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00693EB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:41:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3910347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:41:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MKfl13016482 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:41:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so649722nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr822805nzc; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:41:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uLEySjWfITXCvgRynfvhRCAZrLVrn4otVeiHhB+yhv06JhDzzOgczDKmhtVrTq4Q3jftoMd8YDjRfbFJd+5Qk6aeXTQxd8MKS0XHmgJRI2o33eJm+9Jk4ImNLZ2kqUM+Dv2h8uBB+DyYkpn1hd2NPW7M7uwPn7hPc+Pkx0MmIlc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050622134125252367@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:41:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MKfl13016486 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Or, in another word, yes. Yes, the solar wind is used by the solar sail. But your last sentence is wrong, unless you consider solar wind 'energy of the sun'. Karen On 6/22/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/22/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Does the solar wind have anything at all to do with the solar sail? There > > definitely is such a thing as the solar wind. It helps blow the aurora > > earthward. But the solar sail is simply using the energy of the sun as fuel. > > In a word, no. > > Here's an article that makes it explicit: > http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050621/NEWS06/506210435/1012 > > and here's a description: > http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/sun_wind.htm > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:51:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKohef004013 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:51:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00693F9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3910982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MKod3a017656 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so610193nzp for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr814586nzb; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:50:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=faWuOgSlnC6wp4ETT0+7UT/Te+H2SE1rFjlDtFpm1btKDw4Ys+AkgX29rX5wb5tI02V46fl63BSlMHaz8E7yBFJbu0R8o1OTGwwopPNuFUNe3m92BD1fqeccdtIUx/hGjkNUi7IvXUUAbpMfWtT1qOQoYkSaWJLZMwDwqe13v24= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:50:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Speaking of wishful switches... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MKod3a017657 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have an interview for a job tomorrow morning from 9-12 CDT. I was recommended by someone I know through the professional organization I led for the past two years, but I know that they have been interviewing a lot of people, so it's not a slam dunk. There are two excellent things about this job: it's across the street from where I am currently working, so it'll be a 2.5 mile commute instead of a 2-mile commute. And, it pays decently, unlike my current job. So please cross your fingers, light a candle, etc. ... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 15:54:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MKsFee004386 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:54:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:54:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00693FAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:54:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3911266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:54:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MKsDf4018108 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:54:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so656898nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr829976nzc; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:54:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cIwdB1JX+VF/Woc1f8pb0X3SAzSrVUL+APpTXS6YgyG+mYkDKtw/kAmk+xQd0pnfN4QGKs7kxtpWo3Vmkw6Ea/BMjTgDP5yW+kFoaMQAf0TTBiVlgKgOG+xZi/WLeGEUjEp/UU4ZrmcrFJw7mAaGXqGNkMECCw/dx/s19cOMaUs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506221354469743b7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:54:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik In-Reply-To: <20050622203243.GB23931@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705062211113b3ac801@mail.gmail.com> <20050622192218.GG79968@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221241765480da@mail.gmail.com> <20050622203243.GB23931@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MKsEf4018109 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 02:41:19PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 01:11:48PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > On 6/22/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > At 10:44 AM 6/22/2005, Karen wrote: > > > > > >On 6/22/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > > > > 6/22/2005, 11:14 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> You mean lasik on the horses is banned? Or on the jockeys? I believe > > > > > > > >> Bethany had lasik on herself, not on Maria. Right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AFoA> It's one of Lynne's puns, on the drug Lasix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhhh.....thanks for the heads up. I couldn't quite imagine banning > > > > > > > it on the jockeys, but ya never know.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan, who is not up on horses or racing > > > > > > > > > > > >Neither am I. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, good. Let's talk about horses and racing! > > > > > > > > Or what a bitch I am--I don't know anything about that, either! > > > > > > How about switches in the On position? That's a great topic! > > > > The switch for my lust for you is always on, sweetie. > > Thanks for this wonderful pun. Can something that's always on > be called a switch? Yes. It's called an always-on switch. My Tushar_lust register is always set to '1'! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 16:05:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ML55ee005755 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:05:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:05:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD8C3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:05:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3911387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:05:04 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MKt1C2018290 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:55:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 35322 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 20:55:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:55:00 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! Message-ID: <20050622205500.GA33001@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:40:39PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/22/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Does the solar wind have anything at all to do with the solar sail? There > > definitely is such a thing as the solar wind. It helps blow the aurora > > earthward. But the solar sail is simply using the energy of the sun as > > fuel. > > In a word, no. > > Here's an article that makes it explicit: > http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050621/NEWS06/506210435/1012 It has confused me completely. First it says "using the solar wind". then it says "nudged by the faint energy of light itself". Solar wind is not "light itself". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 16:24:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MLOCee008126 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:24:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:24:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00694075@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:14:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3913417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:14:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MLEACC021305 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:14:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so667379nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.15 with SMTP id h15mr831229nzh; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:14:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PuuNJIDmGIgR9iThBjGl3XRQ9Q3UztP+NmLYkX2x4kxYfEqSTJLhyBJFVSpqpyvc8eFzbVWJU/QQoGf7QnyXPTOU6kNazU1SZt4lw2nhG5A2cqggEf7NMO8f8gDiwiij3wApgXCVhr7/k0/lFXjGl9DGOnIfVcQdoPyh0JKgteA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506221414656a1d9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:14:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! In-Reply-To: <20050622205500.GA33001@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> <20050622205500.GA33001@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MLEBCC021307 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:40:39PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/22/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > Does the solar wind have anything at all to do with the solar sail? There > > > definitely is such a thing as the solar wind. It helps blow the aurora > > > earthward. But the solar sail is simply using the energy of the sun as > > > fuel. > > > > In a word, no. > > > > Here's an article that makes it explicit: > > http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050621/NEWS06/506210435/1012 > > It has confused me completely. First it says "using the solar wind". > then it says "nudged by the faint energy of light itself". > > Solar wind is not "light itself". No, but it is the energy of light itself. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 18:12:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MNCfee020631 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:12:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:12:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006940B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:06:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3918708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:06:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MMuXgM001072 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:56:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 2297 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 22:56:33 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:56:33 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... Message-ID: <20050622225633.GC99265@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:50:38PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I have an interview for a job tomorrow morning from 9-12 CDT. I was > recommended by someone I know through the professional organization I > led for the past two years, but I know that they have been > interviewing a lot of people, so it's not a slam dunk. > > There are two excellent things about this job: it's across the street > from where I am currently working, so it'll be a 2.5 mile commute > instead of a 2-mile commute. And, it pays decently, unlike my current > job. > > So please cross your fingers, light a candle, etc. ... No problem good buddy. But I am having trouble construing a few things: (a) is Austin so weird as to have a half- mile-wide street, and (b) and why is an added half mile "excellent"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 18:13:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MNCfee020630 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:12:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:12:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006940A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:04:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3918495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:04:20 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MMsIZj000745 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:54:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 714 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 22:54:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:54:18 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! Message-ID: <20050622225418.GB99265@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> <20050622205500.GA33001@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221414656a1d9d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506221414656a1d9d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 04:14:10PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:40:39PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 6/22/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > Does the solar wind have anything at all to do with the solar sail? There > > > > definitely is such a thing as the solar wind. It helps blow the aurora > > > > earthward. But the solar sail is simply using the energy of the sun as > > > > fuel. > > > > > > In a word, no. > > > > > > Here's an article that makes it explicit: > > > http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050621/NEWS06/506210435/1012 > > > > It has confused me completely. First it says "using the solar wind". > > then it says "nudged by the faint energy of light itself". > > > > Solar wind is not "light itself". > > No, but it is the energy of light itself. No, it's not. Assuming the expression means anything definite, of course. Solar wind is the flow of charged particles torn off the corona. Protons, that kind of stuff ... STUFF, in short. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 18:13:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MNCfee020632 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:12:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:12:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006941BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:07:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3919208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:07:18 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5MN7HDo002166 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:07:17 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so167070rnf for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.104.62 with SMTP id b62mr560816rnc; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:07:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nvrnWzn9ntXdifiFhnM6A6t11cBvQ2Tr+kvUiN2MJEb5ZxBZx7nyiu6Xtl0Qxk3z6dVibjN35lU7HyKZmyCXk1fMgGnoi7aFZRupV1R46HVzRz1eRKhrOKqsDbga8MNHsEkLh6Y6u6Qmro0XCtBxptgjRb/Rv1bKXxm3gGYp3tc= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:07:16 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <200506221208.j5MC84qh017351@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506221208.j5MC84qh017351@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5MN7HDo002168 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:17:36 +0900, Tanaka Akio > wrote: > > >3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. > >3c) Happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. > >4) The happy are not always rich. > >5) The rich are not always happy. > > > >I'm wondering whether 3b) and 4) are acceptable or not. > >Any comments will be appreciated. > > > >Tanaka Akio > > 3b and 4 are both acceptable but not so likely to occur > as 5. 3c has a "biblical language" flavor to it. The Beatitudes, to be specific. The first bit of Matthew 5, though "Blessed are the happy" isn't quite in there. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 18:12:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5MNCfee020629 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:12:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:12:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069425F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:02:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3918483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:02:41 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5MMqeU3000661 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:52:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 340 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Jun 2005 22:52:39 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:52:39 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik Message-ID: <20050622225239.GA99265@words-l.org> References: <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705062211113b3ac801@mail.gmail.com> <20050622192218.GG79968@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221241765480da@mail.gmail.com> <20050622203243.GB23931@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221354469743b7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506221354469743b7@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:54:12PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Thanks for this wonderful pun. Can something that's always on > > be called a switch? > > Yes. It's called an always-on switch. My Tushar_lust register is > always set to '1'! A clever way of phrasing it. Haha! This is the stuff of talk shows! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:34:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N1Xree003123 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:33:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:34:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD91CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:23:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3924223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:23:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N1NkIm017526 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:23:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so769041nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.34.15 with SMTP id h15mr960518nzh; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:23:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LhlOYzA+vVUAtN2baYlH0CYGtb9Y6t09UMBnRVVQaqfR1tD51fJ9X4u83YccKK+DU6VaGwI6dcVu/swAz5BOkDDYiIEbJA17ZxfJ+jO1BQ5W1dEZwuuQ0bRB3QQ856N3Mc84a4+1fWb/Xugda45PPFim7K0GmUGZoAfOpJIoppw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050622182349721235@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:23:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... In-Reply-To: <20050622225633.GC99265@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225633.GC99265@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5N1NkIm017528 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > No problem good buddy. But I am having trouble construing > a few things: (a) is Austin so weird as to have a half- > mile-wide street, It's at the far end of the complex. > and (b) and why is an added half mile > "excellent"? Cuz it coulda been 15 through major traffic. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:41:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N1fFee004239 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:41:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:41:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006944E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:27:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3924317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:27:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N1ROCa017833 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:27:25 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so770253nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.17 with SMTP id q17mr965892nzq; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:27:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=o8TTCeY3GuzCR6xK/4sWyFa5INL8LSdod0GRBthIR2nTjcXl3PzChKpCzhOBea+d9SFsvQouIxv7d7A0CZ+sjwkf5suAxRV/ysd/vbBZIC/pJUMF3CnvffqObFSNuuSutRUQAIsXokMukBNy52pBLEXnJhabVtyLbVs7YZTfXj4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506221827791ba23f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:27:24 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! In-Reply-To: <20050622225418.GB99265@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> <20050622205500.GA33001@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221414656a1d9d@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225418.GB99265@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5N1RPCa017836 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 04:14:10PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:40:39PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > On 6/22/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > > Does the solar wind have anything at all to do with the solar sail? There > > > > > definitely is such a thing as the solar wind. It helps blow the aurora > > > > > earthward. But the solar sail is simply using the energy of the sun as > > > > > fuel. > > > > > > > > In a word, no. > > > > > > > > Here's an article that makes it explicit: > > > > http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050621/NEWS06/506210435/1012 > > > > > > It has confused me completely. First it says "using the solar wind". > > > then it says "nudged by the faint energy of light itself". > > > > > > Solar wind is not "light itself". > > > > No, but it is the energy of light itself. > > No, it's not. Assuming the expression means anything definite, of > course. Solar wind is the flow of charged particles torn off the > corona. Protons, that kind of stuff ... STUFF, in short. Is not energy STUFF? I hope this is not asked at my interview tomorrow! Did I talk here about the wacko interview I had last year? I think it was last year, maybe the year before. The guy asked him what something meant in Japanese--and it wasn't even Japanese phonology. I tried to let him down gently, but he wouldn't go. It was horrible. And then he asked me all about Chomsky--about which I know almost nothing post-1965. Jeeze Louise. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:41:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N1fFee004242 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:41:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:41:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069443A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:28:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3924361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:28:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N1SROp017915 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:28:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so697063nzp for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.18 with SMTP id l18mr976767nzl; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:28:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=juJISQ7aGnAb8R6eZzkaT68FfdfJ8m8b7Lyt5vlSiXGg8F87uVz/U+1sKdq1B875l2NEW0R9E1Cb+oyIlnWa6xi4htyX+yRsJsm3oO2hn68BeDDaz50jtx/E3p3asyr7qXOwHbQN6HLaeO7Xn39wY/caSyyjk3KCW+cPhhFi/DI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062218287aad3c84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:28:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik In-Reply-To: <20050622225239.GA99265@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705062211113b3ac801@mail.gmail.com> <20050622192218.GG79968@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221241765480da@mail.gmail.com> <20050622203243.GB23931@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221354469743b7@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225239.GA99265@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5N1SROp017916 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:54:12PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > Thanks for this wonderful pun. Can something that's always on > > > be called a switch? > > > > Yes. It's called an always-on switch. My Tushar_lust register is > > always set to '1'! > > A clever way of phrasing it. Haha! This is the stuff of talk shows! Maybe a geek one. I could do a geek one. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:41:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N1fFee004243 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:41:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:41:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006944FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:38:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3924621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:38:55 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N1csr5018692 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:38:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34042B908 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:38:39 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: BWP WLM Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Today I saw a Chevy Suburban with this license plate: MAC HOG Ken Miller Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for the Study of Words-L From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 20:54:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N1rxee005988 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:54:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:54:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00694508@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:43:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3924743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:43:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N1hwNV019090 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:43:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so251244wra for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.29.24 with SMTP id c24mr803772wrc; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:43:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZpiBDj6wK3SpGWLAbLww+MB7fQpLlhCxyTnRJLqEf73GzIfEXFCN32kGFMq6Bh5fTou6rgUquI/GrhowXBcfoPF/p8mugkoFS3KVR2cbr5oPPTLrtn7/pDeSweMIXG1Ql3qYXSv9tFdlQWpeCfpaEROZsz4QWsfJR9HyFop8kMk= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:43:58 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506221827791ba23f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> <20050622205500.GA33001@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221414656a1d9d@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225418.GB99265@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221827791ba23f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5N1rxee005988 > > Is not energy STUFF? > Karen > When you get done explaining that, please explain what it could possibly mean that tonight's full moon is "the lowest-hanging full moon in 18 years". -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 21:10:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N2ASee007771 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:10:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:10:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00694486@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:00:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3925327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:00:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N20R8v020922 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:00:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so707716nzp for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.80 with SMTP id w80mr961881nzg; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:00:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UobymLeOHvjjB9QFsCTybRAScNa8dG7F3UFD9lX3ROL5W+RUHKNDO4OueqQS0b4L9TB+tb3sd4Ch8rXRSqbu6Kbinra1p+OPviToJfFzeIVP0WoVN/rqiuw7UYVCIbyLMZBUNRSBIvKgmdShO98ImcEQLxt6r4L2rVolwKmJpsg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062219003e67cbef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:00:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> <20050622205500.GA33001@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221414656a1d9d@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225418.GB99265@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221827791ba23f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5N20S8v020923 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > > Is not energy STUFF? > > Karen > > > > When you get done explaining that, please explain what it could possibly > mean that tonight's full moon is "the lowest-hanging full moon in 18 years". Sorry, I have to get ready for my interview. But it seems obvious to me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 21:10:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N2ASee007770 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:10:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:10:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00694545@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:02:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3925491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:02:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N22K6E021277 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:02:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so782744nzk for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.2 with SMTP id y2mr979704nzb; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:02:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ngQtYPnOvWVxZEz9/0v+0H/EOnFxXJcoAkaNmXsRwy+lPWIWyvAJdjFz3M8FAexdHRWlqXiDMNRweRPN7R04xyhaDOWhXWNJSgxvyGtrkpQ6THx0OG51IZMPL7iau0yxsf3+3k3qhWQl3XFKtonfRyj6Qgxcn6LPhl6mfBP9Zxo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062219021d1fafbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:02:19 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BWP WLM In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5N22K6E021278 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Love the sig! Where did your X-Moment-of-Dada come from? On 6/22/05, Bookrat wrote: > Today I saw a Chevy Suburban with this license plate: > > MAC HOG > > Ken Miller > Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for the Study of Words-L > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 21:11:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N2BJee007885 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:11:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:11:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD9263@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:01:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3925464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:01:18 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N21IWc021134 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:01:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBEA2B689 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506221827791ba23f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050622225418.GB99265@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> <20050622205500.GA33001@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221414656a1d9d@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225418.GB99265@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:01:03 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Sob! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 6:27 PM -0700 6/22/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 04:14:10PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> > On 6/22/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> > > It has confused me completely. First it says "using the solar wind". >> > > then it says "nudged by the faint energy of light itself". >> > > >> > > Solar wind is not "light itself". >> > >> > No, but it is the energy of light itself. >> >> No, it's not. Assuming the expression means anything definite, of >> course. Solar wind is the flow of charged particles torn off the >> corona. Protons, that kind of stuff ... STUFF, in short. > >Is not energy STUFF? In the imprecise manner with which we humans deal with abstraction, anything can be STUFF. But the stuff that the energy of light is is not the same stuff that mass is. Per our old friend e=mc^2, energy can be converted into mass (and vice versa) but it is not mass per se. The "energy of light itself" is energy in the form of electromagnetic radiation. It has no mass and will do nothing to a solar sail except make it fade. Well, that's not quite true -- as light is absorbed by the sail, it will increase the energy content of the sail -- but that will only make the sail hotter; it won't push the sail in any particular direction. The solar wind is made up of charged particles, which have mass and therefore have momentum. When they bang into a solar sail, it takes some of their momentum. They nudge it, not with the energy of light itself, but with kinetic energy, which is something else. Ken Miller BHA Institute for Billions and Billions of Things From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 21:54:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N2sRee012896 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:54:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:54:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006945AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:54:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3927625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:54:27 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N2sRCw026524 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:54:27 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6274BBE8BF for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062219021d1fafbb@mail.gmail.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Information is large smelly laundry X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:54:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: BWP WLM Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:02 PM -0700 6/22/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >Where did your X-Moment-of-Dada come from? Where else? Words-L, of course. Specifically, none other than Alan Wild. That web is a jihadist web! Ken Miller Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 22:13:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N3DGee014951 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:13:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:13:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069469F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:13:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3932073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:13:16 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N3DGJ8029079; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:13:16 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 114857140; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:13:15 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050622201415.0273b2c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:14:48 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:50 PM 6/22/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I have an interview for a job tomorrow morning from 9-12 CDT. I was >recommended by someone I know through the professional organization I >led for the past two years, but I know that they have been >interviewing a lot of people, so it's not a slam dunk. > >There are two excellent things about this job: it's across the street >from where I am currently working, so it'll be a 2.5 mile commute >instead of a 2-mile commute. And, it pays decently, unlike my current >job. > >So please cross your fingers, light a candle, etc. ... > >Karen Best of luck, Karen! I'm rooting for you. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 23:36:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N4ahee025327 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:36:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:36:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069499C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 0:26:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3935331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:26:18 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N47I4t001025 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:07:18 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5N47IvP032167 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:07:18 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5N472ni028828 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:07:04 -0400 Message-ID: <007601c577a9$06371a20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:49:51 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, and to all of those in New Zealand, happy snowboarding... but for those not attune to the quick shooting KK... snow is not pervasive in NZ... so GET IT STRAIGHT! FUCKERS! Snowboarding AIN"T TAKIN' PLACE EVERYWHERE IN NZ! IT'S FUCKING REGIONAL! There... I hope I have ejaculated enough for Karen and the weekend. If not, KK, Take over... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" > Happy Summer Solstice > > > BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 22 23:36:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N4ahee025329 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:36:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:36:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006948F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 0:26:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3935424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:26:20 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N4DqDD001360 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:13:52 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 114869273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:13:48 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050622211355.0260c010@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:15:20 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Spouses of festers In-Reply-To: <200506201405.j5KE5VDU030862@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506201405.j5KE5VDU030862@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:05 AM 6/20/2005, you wrote: >On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:08:15 -0500, Natalie Maynor >wrote: > > >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > >>Kind of like the inevitable relationship to the near-perfect spouse. > >> > >> > >What does V think about the upcoming fest? Is he going to participate, > >or is he going to hide? > > > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >For the most part, he's enthusiastic. He likes to grill, and to show >off our home. But his tolerance for gatherings is limited, and he may >well disappear for stretches of time. >clo We'll be gentle. Rita's husband was a good sport. Has anyone heard from Rita? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:12:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N5C5ee030525 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:12:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:12:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006948D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 1:02:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3937683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:02:05 -0400 Received: from web51310.mail.yahoo.com (web51310.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.176]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5N524Zt005535 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:02:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 16414 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jun 2005 05:02:04 -0000 Received: from [66.82.9.24] by web51310.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:02:04 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=14HQ/3ItftbLkCbcrxv4Ix78m4yXrrQJ0wGyPTAPYtjHJmQhGenCeOpaTDh81My9IGa0Dr0il3OCS+f33wic8eZab6MUkXyP5BS/wtEZuBCArjxwgO5A90QTKZKNzDtriJU1XoiLnWuy+Lf2V0V2mjC/K0oXvDWEXVfSXjb9KSU= ; Message-ID: <20050623050204.16412.qmail@web51310.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:02:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doris Smith Reply-To: dormarbil@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My fingers are crossed - good luck! Doris S A Friend of Andy wrote: I have an interview for a job tomorrow morning from 9-12 CDT. I was recommended by someone I know through the professional organization I led for the past two years, but I know that they have been interviewing a lot of people, so it's not a slam dunk. There are two excellent things about this job: it's across the street from where I am currently working, so it'll be a 2.5 mile commute instead of a 2-mile commute. And, it pays decently, unlike my current job. So please cross your fingers, light a candle, etc. ... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 00:32:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N5Vwee000157 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:31:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:32:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00694A1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 1:31:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3938527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:31:58 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5N5Vuqg007550 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:31:57 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5N5VsJL009618 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:31:54 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5N5VrZO009613 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:31:53 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5N5VrLm002237 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:31:53 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5N5VqPR002232 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:31:52 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j5N5VoJM056038 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:31:52 +0900 Message-ID: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: for to be alive and human Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:31:31 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dear Wordsler, The following is taken from: Robert Young: _Understanding Misunderstandings_ In the broad sense of the term, to say that people lack culture is to deny their existence, for to be alive and human is to have culture. Thus, it $B!G (Bs not a matter of who has culture and who doesn $B!G (Bt, but a matter of which culture shapes our actions and interpretations. Question: How do you paraphrase the clause that starts with 'for to be...' (line 2)? What do you say to: 'since that they are alive and human means that they have culture'? Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:20:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N6KPee006452 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:20:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:20:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00694B85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 2:20:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3940626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:20:24 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5N6KMQF011287 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:20:23 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062308183709276 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:18:37 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.4] ([128.39.111.4]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:20:21 +0200 Message-ID: <42BA54A5.2010608@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:20:21 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2005 06:20:21.0261 (UTC) FILETIME=[A22153D0:01C577BB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas skrev 22.06.2005 15:08: >I recommend exploring it ... my experience is that good practicioners are >very conservative. My dr and I spent six months deciding I should do it - >and at the last visit before he said ok, I thought he was going to say no. >I was considering whether I should seek a 2nd opinion. > >I did only one eye - one was much worse than the other - that was both >medically and financially conservative. > > Yes, it may be that I am just even more conservative here. >Now I use off-the-counter reading glasses for fine print, long periods of >reading, and long periods of computer use. Otherwise, I do not need >glasses. I keep such glasses everywhere, since I can buy them for about $6 >a pair. > > Yes, and that is what I find I can do with contact lenses on: I put on cheap glasses when I read or work on the computer or read. But yes, I know other people who have been very happy with the results of their operation(s). OTOH I find that now on my third day with contact lenses, I can read more and see more clearly on the computer screen. (This may of course also come from that my eyes are getting better after the jet-lag-bleariness. >(One of my reasons for considering lasik was that I did not want to have >to wear glasses when riding Maria.) > > Yes, I can see that - and it seems we have just looked on different solutions: I found I needed something other than glasses when I was out in the seaspray on the boat (and technically I already know that I am handicapped skiing in conditions where my glasses start to fog over), so that is why I am trying lenses now. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 01:26:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5N6Q5ee007159 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:26:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:26:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006949D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 2:26:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3940792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:26:05 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5N6Q36r011938 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:26:04 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062308242009286 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:24:20 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.4] ([128.39.111.4]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:26:03 +0200 Message-ID: <42BA55FC.2090700@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:26:04 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2005 06:26:03.0602 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E2E6B20:01C577BC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 22.06.2005 22:50: >I have an interview for a job tomorrow morning from 9-12 CDT. I was >recommended by someone I know through the professional organization I >led for the past two years, but I know that they have been >interviewing a lot of people, so it's not a slam dunk. > >There are two excellent things about this job: it's across the street >from where I am currently working, so it'll be a 2.5 mile commute >instead of a 2-mile commute. And, it pays decently, unlike my current >job. > >So please cross your fingers, light a candle, etc. ... > > > Done - and good luck! Espen From mbaseminar@frzmail.info Thu Jun 23 05:31:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from frzmail.info (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NAVSef010689 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:31:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200506231031.j5NAVSef010689@gtoal.com> Received: from 72.26.221.14 ([72.26.221.14]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:31:40 CDT From: "Business Skills Seminar" Subject: Financial and Marketing Skills Seminar To: words-l@gtoal.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: mbaseminar@frzmail.info Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:31:23 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mailer1

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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 05:55:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NAt4ee013461 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:55:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:55:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FD9D55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 6:55:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3948218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:55:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NAt34H006402 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:55:03 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so111532nzk for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.18 with SMTP id l18mr1206735nzl; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 03:55:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Uxe/La4KogIPMt9/NRQ3fQBri/oNAgEbQ6NOVr5t03f8LxynP0QA86ezgo+G6lY1qid/3ZOTkdpoqhrKujdzCJZFptehf1StFSTw0hc+ZRgFuS+1SjKezD8oVVu+JsRk3cxwiPofm5ZuHQKzgCJDSlshXQ1A1zI9bz7wBHSNbIk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050623035549826453@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:55:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for to be alive and human In-Reply-To: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5NAt34H006403 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/23/05, Tanaka Akio wrote: > Dear Wordsler, > > The following is taken from: Robert Young: _Understanding > Misunderstandings_ > > In the broad sense of the term, to say that people lack culture > is to deny their existence, for to be alive and human is to have culture. > Thus, it $B!G (Bs not a matter of who has culture and who doesn $B!G (Bt, but a > matter of which culture shapes our actions and interpretations. > > Question: > > How do you paraphrase the clause that starts with 'for to be...' (line 2)? You can substitute "because" for "for". But really, this guy is an ass. > What do you say to: > > 'since that they are alive and human means that they have culture'? Humans are not the only ones with culture. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 06:38:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NBcDee019466 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:38:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:38:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD9DAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 7:28:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3949068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:28:13 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NBSDRj001400 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:28:13 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 95462127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:27:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42BA9CCC.1010008@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:28:12 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I have an interview for a job tomorrow morning from 9-12 CDT. > >So please cross your fingers, light a candle, etc. ... > > > Fingers crossed; good wishes coming your way! Good luck! Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:17:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NCH1ee023875 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:17:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:17:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FD9ECE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 8:17:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3951564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:16:54 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.43]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NCGr4D007197 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:16:53 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5NCGogJ025722 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:16:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42BAA832.8030006@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:16:50 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BWP WLM References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >Today I saw a Chevy Suburban with this license plate: > >MAC HOG > > Terrific! -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 07:31:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NCUsee025562 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:30:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:30:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00694DF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 8:30:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3952464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:30:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NCUr5o009138 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:30:53 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so436917wra for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.54.4 with SMTP id c4mr633047wra; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:30:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qnckGLuEWYyeCsoDWrJWV1XeG5v8i5aGd8HoOuaSTG5dtqQzBDi7OwJb8ZQT14m8JBdw2ZL6x+V2cxdvU6M/r6/ZnTSz9G27nKS0WMXivfppyW/8xEFh0AtLYkGtxqqjRiB5eWskw75RUIIV6J4CkiNkm6FIuiG0F/LPYWTiFf0= Message-ID: <44dce1c105062305301023b824@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:30:52 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5NCUr5o009140 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/22/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I have an interview for a job tomorrow morning from 9-12 CDT. Good luck! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 08:22:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NDMRee000091 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:22:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:22:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00695024@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 9:22:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3956525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:22:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NDMQAM017432 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:22:27 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so684145nzp for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.158.10 with SMTP id g10mr1466789nze; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.4.11 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:22:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LkiQzpjvulwctlNsbByMhGM6HLSnYjUn1iQZx+UMHWHVrffRp1YyeUAvA5kXEM3EvRfKOtV1S/PxPD9ZmFM8rprRcMzW/WdRVvb1doGDX6mqPXuYfMrwPkudlKjdCYM4Ol1QNsJ5/EFleF6c3GjzBhCBoiguxA3SmGmlKOjXx+E= Message-ID: <3c1d5b500506230622519cd9b3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:22:26 +0200 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: DSAI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5NDMRAM017434 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU until Monday. It is a beautiful afternoon here, and in about half an hour we will catch a taxi down to the ferry. AZ taxi since as usual we have found reasons to bring lots of stuff, much of which shall stay in the boat such as a new skillet, pretty heavy and other stuff. We have seen the bonfires set up on the islands we have gone past for the last couple of weeks, and when it gets darker tonight they will be burning all along the fjord. I hope I may be able to provide some photos. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 10:35:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NFZRee017066 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:35:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:35:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDA6FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:35:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3969463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:35:26 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NFZKoL008822 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:35:20 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 114636401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:35:19 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050623083531.0269b0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:36:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: FEST In-Reply-To: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >web.syr.edu/~clostran/Fest.htm > > >clo Looking forward to this! What is Strawberry Shortcastle? The Big Event - July 3 Paul (BrP) and I are co-hosting, and the Big Meal will be at Vance and clo's house, on Sunday July 3. After the Big Meal, we will tour the Puppet and Mask Museum, ending the festivities with Strawberry Shortcastle. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:16:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NGGBee023052 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:16:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:16:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006955C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:16:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3973871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:16:10 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NGGAWZ017707 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:16:10 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:16:10 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:15:38 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: FEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Think puppets and dessert BrP >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 6/23/2005 11:36:52 AM >>> Looking forward to this! What is Strawberry Shortcastle? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:47:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NGkmee026865 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:46:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:47:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00695688@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:46:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3976228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:46:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5NGaekn022171 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:36:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 48470 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Jun 2005 16:36:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:36:39 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sob! Message-ID: <20050623163639.GA44584@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705062212407567fe4@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062213404a32d082@mail.gmail.com> <20050622205500.GA33001@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221414656a1d9d@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225418.GB99265@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506221827791ba23f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506221827791ba23f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 08:27:24PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > No, it's not. Assuming the expression means anything definite, of > > course. Solar wind is the flow of charged particles torn off the > > corona. Protons, that kind of stuff ... STUFF, in short. > > Is not energy STUFF? Oh right, I forgot ... everything is everything else at some level ... However, protons are not photons ... > I hope this is not asked at my interview tomorrow! > > Did I talk here about the wacko interview I had last year? I think it > was last year, maybe the year before. The guy asked him what something > meant in Japanese--and it wasn't even Japanese phonology. I tried to > let him down gently, but he wouldn't go. It was horrible. And then he > asked me all about Chomsky--about which I know almost nothing > post-1965. Oh, he went the way of the PRESS and started defending BAD PEOPLE. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:50:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NGoRee027158 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:50:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:50:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDAA68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:50:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3976642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:50:27 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5NGe5uH022958 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:40:05 -0400 Received: (qmail 49915 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Jun 2005 16:40:05 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:40:05 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BWP WLM Message-ID: <20050623164005.GB44584@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 07:54:12PM -0700, Bookrat wrote: > At 7:02 PM -0700 6/22/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >Where did your X-Moment-of-Dada come from? > > Where else? Words-L, of course. Specifically, none other than Alan Wild. > That web is a jihadist web! ... intent on establishing a "worldwide caliphate" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 11:52:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NGqjee027400 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:52:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:52:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069575F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:52:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3977089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:52:44 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5NGghlU023867 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:42:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 51029 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Jun 2005 16:42:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:42:43 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: at the risk of being hemispherist... Message-ID: <20050623164243.GC44584@words-l.org> References: <007601c577a9$06371a20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <007601c577a9$06371a20$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 11:49:51PM -0400, Alan Wild wrote: > Yes, and to all of those in New Zealand, happy snowboarding... but for > those not attune to the quick shooting KK... snow is not pervasive in NZ... > so GET IT STRAIGHT! FUCKERS! Snowboarding AIN"T TAKIN' PLACE EVERYWHERE IN > NZ! IT'S FUCKING REGIONAL! As opposed to the islamofascist caliphate, which is WORDLWIDE! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:06:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NH6Gee029016 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:06:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:06:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006956FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:06:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3979003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:06:16 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NH6FG4028036 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:06:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23863896 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:06:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:06:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:06:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1674562324.20050623110614@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BWP WLM In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 235, in=85196, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/22/2005, 7:38 PM, Bookrat wrote: B> Today I saw a Chevy Suburban with this license plate: B> MAC HOG So you know what kind of computer(s) he has. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 12:08:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NH8Aee029236 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:08:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:08:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006957BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:08:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3978454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:08:10 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5NGw9T5026999 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:58:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 57882 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Jun 2005 16:58:09 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:58:09 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for to be alive and human Message-ID: <20050623165809.GD44584@words-l.org> References: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 02:31:31PM +0900, Tanaka Akio wrote: > Dear Wordsler, > > The following is taken from: Robert Young: _Understanding > Misunderstandings_ > > In the broad sense of the term, to say that people lack culture > is to deny their existence, for to be alive and human is to have > culture. Thus, it's not a matter of who has culture and who doesn't, > but a matter of which culture shapes our actions and interpretations. > > Question: > > How do you paraphrase the clause that starts with 'for to be...' (line 2)? > > What do you say to: > > 'since that they are alive and human means that they have culture'? Logically, they are essentially the same, but because the preceding clause is talking about DENYING, it is more fluent and less awkward (perhaps only in English) to frame it his way. What it means is this: for = since. But "for" is consistent with the poor writing overall. to be X is to be Y = a somewhat dramatic and unimaginative way of saying that Y is an essential property of X, if something is not Y it is not X. But this shows how muddled everything is in this book. The "broad sense" of the term is the author's. When people say "he lacks culture", they don't at all mean "he doesn't exist". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 13:24:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NIO2ee005751 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:24:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:24:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00695A14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:23:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3986802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:23:58 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NINrjB010270 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:23:54 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so115592wri for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.76.6 with SMTP id y6mr1287784wra; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:23:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CCm7cIGQWRCORmjauTQl5RmBXFaKz53QQ8Y7EaMRVdJaejo6Q1dChLmuek91xCuY+pIcwBVfTcDbU2X1hPFvHbd5jOgQ98EX9GE9cZZPsUkOERgZQor+NNi4xtvpp6Uy+TW+Mu0i16tg1v/Krt24E2QJLNNmIVO5FSM2g4cT0Hs= Message-ID: <8865866a0506231023573a012b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:23:03 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: Pam , Vicki , Torkel , Mom , johnson , Gisela , English Language Discussion Group , Doug , Dan , bjorn.lindkvist@tomelilla.se, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ann_St=E5lhammar?= Subject: Cotswold Way 2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5NINsjB010272 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (Sorry about the delay. Dan and I were supposed to work on these together but we didn't have time.) Chipping Campden to Stanton 16km: Dan has never hiked like this before and his boots were new and not broken in (yes, we know that is VERY stupid) so we were both a bit concerned. I ended up carrying his sneakers on the outside of my pack, just in case. He didn't have a chance to get a decent backpack, either, so I carried most of the load. I really didn't mind. It is good exercise! The day was a promising one - sunshine and not too hot. One of the first interesting places we came to was called Dover's Hill, where there was a good view and home of "Olympick Games" from 1612-1852. The games were stopped because of hooliganism (!) but were revived again in 1951. That'll teach those hooligans - misbehave and the games are stopped for 100 years! Maybe an idea for those nasty football fans.... We also saw Broadway Tower, built as a landmark folly in 1798 for the Earl of Coventry. There were lots of people on the trail that day and I was worried that it was always going to be like this but the further along we got, the less people we saw. The day saw us having a few disagreements about how often to stop and how many pictures to take. I admit, I am a purist. I am there to walk, a few pictures are ok but we have a goal to get to and fannying about is not going to get us there. Dan had a different view and was perturbed when I didn't stop everytime he whipped out the camera. This causes problems later on. We arrived at our B&B in Stanton, eager for a shower and some refreshments. We were greeted by Pip, a 5 year-old Jack Russell terrier. The room was very large and typically English, with the cabbage rose decorations and a bit girly. Dan tried to take a bath first but got no hot water. He went out to find out what was wrong. He came back, completely confused. Our hostess informed him that they only have hot water after 4 pm (it was after 4 pm) and she had used quite a bit so she'd just press a button and there would be more soon. Hmmm.... When I got my turn, there was only lukewarm water. Sigh. Then as I was getting dressed for dinner, I put my knee through my skirt. GAH! I didn't have many street clothes so this was not good. Eddie Bauer received a torn skirt and an unhappy letter upon my return to Sweden! Dinner was at the only pub in Stanton and we drank a local ale, Donnington's. We walked around the village and it was very picturesque but almost too picturesque. The houses there must have definitely been the models for those Lilliput collectables. Such perfection was a bit unsettling. The next morning at breakfast we discovered that Pip had an older sister, Lulu. They came to visit us while we where eating but when they discovered that we had no intention of sharing our toast, they lost interest. Off we go to Cleeve Hill... Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:37:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NKbHee020086 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:37:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:37:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00695BE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:37:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3998344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:37:16 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NKbEnY000925 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:37:14 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 102794176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:37:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42BB1D79.3090805@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:37:13 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225633.GC99265@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050622225633.GC99265@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:50:38PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >>I have an interview for a job tomorrow morning from 9-12 CDT. >> Karen, How did it go? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 15:42:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NKg0ee020730 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:42:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:42:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00695DFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:41:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3999467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:42:00 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NKfxVW002046 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:42:00 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.203]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050623204159.RWSB2064.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:41:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.203]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050623204159.ZSCE7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:41:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42BB1E91.3080101@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:41:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Att: Adam and Marie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Steph in Lexington says thank-you for your music suggestions. She's enthusiastic about both. It sounds as if she's doing a super job of organizing the service. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 16:14:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NLDjt8004675 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:13:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:14:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00695C68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:50:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3999974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:50:07 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NKo7X6003122 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:50:07 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.203]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050623205007.SINK2064.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:50:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.203]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050623205006.ZWQL7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:50:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:50:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio wrote: > 3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. > 3c) Happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. > 4) The happy are not always rich. > 5) The rich are not always happy. > > I'm wondering whether 3b) and 4) are acceptable or not. As always, I can think of contexts that they would seem normal in, but I'd call them borderline in acceptability except in odd contexts. I would not go so far as starring them as ungrammatical but would say that they sound a bit odd. Actually, 3c would sound a wee bit odd in ordinary conversation. It sounds kind of -- or maybe like something a preacher would say in the pulpit, drawing language from the King James Bible (maybe later versions also -- I don't know know that I know how The Beatitudes are worded in other versions -- "blessed are the meek" etc.). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 16:14:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NLDjt8004678 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:13:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:14:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00695D41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:12:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4002253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:12:15 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NLCEkH006854 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:12:15 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.203]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050623211214.OSWU2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:12:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.203]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050623211214.ZGXW4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:12:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42BB25AC.5070305@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:12:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for to be alive and human References: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> <20050623165809.GD44584@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050623165809.GD44584@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>'since that they are alive and human means that they have culture'? >> >> > >for = since. But "for" is consistent with the poor writing overall. > > Oops. Forget what I wrote in my first reply. I forgot the whole sentence. It's been a hectic day. The above works. >to be X is to be Y = a somewhat dramatic and unimaginative way of >saying that Y is an essential property of X, if something is not Y >it is not X. > >But this shows how muddled everything is in this book. The "broad >sense" of the term is the author's. When people say "he lacks >culture", they don't at all mean "he doesn't exist". > > Isn't that his point? I thought he was objecting to the use of "having culture" to mean having a certain kind of culture. Anyway, as I said, forget my parsing. I should've looked back at the sentence before responding to that last part. MBS -- Muddled Brain Syndrome. (But I stand by my point re saying that being human means having culture does not mean that everything that has culture is human. Sort of like the old textbook examples of syllogisms like "All Communists read Karl Marx. He reads Karl Marx. Therefore, he is a Communist." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 16:14:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NLDjt8004677 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:13:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:14:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00695E0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4001604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:23 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NL2NdM005462 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:23 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.203]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050623210223.OJVU2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.203]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050623210222.ZCNZ4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:22 -0400 Message-ID: <42BB2354.40308@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:02:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for to be alive and human References: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio wrote: > The following is taken from: Robert Young: _Understanding > Misunderstandings_ > > In the broad sense of the term, to say that people lack culture > is to deny their existence, for to be alive and human is to have culture. > Thus, it $B!G (Bs not a matter of who has culture and who doesn $B!G > (Bt, but a > matter of which culture shapes our actions and interpretations. > > Question: > > How do you paraphrase the clause that starts with 'for to be...' (line > 2)? > > What do you say to: > > 'since that they are alive and human means that they have culture'? Though not that paraphrase would be frowned upon because of using what appears to be an adverbial clause as the subject of the sentence. Zapping the "since" would get rid of that problem. But I think "Their being alive and human means they have culture" is better than "that they are alive and human means...." I'd probably say "The fact that they're alive and human means they have culture." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 16:14:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NLDjt8004676 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:13:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:14:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00695D1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:05:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4001870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:05:11 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NL5A5t005922 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:05:10 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.203]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050623210510.OMDQ2372.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:05:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.203]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050623210510.ZDUN4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:05:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42BB2405.9060604@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:05:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for to be alive and human References: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a7050623035549826453@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050623035549826453@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>What do you say to: >> >>'since that they are alive and human means that they have culture'? >> >> >Humans are not the only ones with culture. > > That clause doesn't suggest that they are. (Speaking of "that clause," I think I said "subject of the sentence" in what I just sent -- I mean subject of the clause -- subject of the verb "means.") Anyway, to say that being alive and human means you have blood vessels does not suggest that everything with blood vessels is human. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 16:52:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NLqNt8009329 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:52:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:52:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00695F04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:52:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4005036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:52:22 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NLqLYf014154 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:52:22 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050623215218013003062ge>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:52:19 +0000 Message-ID: <42BB2F12.9070000@istori.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:52:18 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lasik References: <20050622154449.5084.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> <1081978772.20050622110217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506221014a93e2ec@mail.gmail.com> <452232453.20050622112814@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062210444b09d986@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050622110042.026aa4a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Richard writes, > Modern Art was a real son of a bitch, but man, > he loved his goat companion. And the cat. This one caused a double take. Edward Albee's "The Goat, or Who Is Sylvia?" opened here two weeks ago, and I've read a couple reviews in the local papers, so "goat companion" means something different to me now than a couple weeks ago. :-) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 17:05:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NM4vt8010875 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:05:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:05:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FDB7DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:54:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4005148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:54:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NLsuFZ014979 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:54:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so12286nzk for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.11 with SMTP id o11mr1094763nzo; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:48:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Wt7dol2UFWi3AyQIsxPxT8hD11yVtCfveUjAMPVV7fw6o/J8vGY7rt6WP2UW6kY8MAT7/08hE9UEytN9+3b1Erd1HqX9VScsRUURQVKAVfeZ74PzEFSMZWlZpbiLv5Ht5KyP6T/vOuX3c/y5U3mGuHcGXGiKEyGihVQ1VTV5t5U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050623144840105b50@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:48:41 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: HA!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5NLsuFZ014982 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From http://www.woai.com/spurs/story.aspx?content_id=D843F384-9300-4C37-B631-8346177D0DFF This is a San Antonio news outlet, and even THEY think the Pistons will win! Ha! So there! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 17:32:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NMW2t8014190 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:32:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:32:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00696051@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:22:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4006947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:22:01 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NMM1IO019005 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:22:01 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 114727864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:22:00 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050623152255.02a741f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:23:30 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Cotswold Way 2 In-Reply-To: <8865866a0506231023573a012b@mail.gmail.com> References: <8865866a0506231023573a012b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I love Marcia's travel logs best of all! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 17:50:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NMo5t8016019 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:50:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:50:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006960B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:50:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4007864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:50:05 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5NMe3N6020846 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:40:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 37607 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Jun 2005 22:40:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:40:02 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for to be alive and human Message-ID: <20050623224002.GA33541@words-l.org> References: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> <20050623165809.GD44584@words-l.org> <42BB25AC.5070305@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BB25AC.5070305@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:12:12PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >But this shows how muddled everything is in this book. The "broad > >sense" of the term is the author's. When people say "he lacks > >culture", they don't at all mean "he doesn't exist". > > Isn't that his point? I thought he was objecting to the use of "having > culture" to mean having a certain kind of culture. You are too innocent and know not the publishing beast. He is not objecting to anything in particular; he probably does not even intend to say anything specific. I'd say he is one more of that pretentious type who points out the latent hemispherisms of speech and so forth. > But I stand by my point re saying that being human means > having culture does not mean that everything that has culture > is human. Sort of like the old textbook examples of syllogisms > like "All Communists read Karl Marx. He reads Karl Marx. > Therefore, he is a Communist." That's exceeding well put, by gad. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 18:42:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5NNggt8021288 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:42:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:42:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00696166@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:42:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4013815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:42:41 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5NNgdON000664 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:42:39 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005062323423601500bl5tse>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:42:36 +0000 Message-ID: <42BB48E9.6070903@istori.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:42:33 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for to be alive and human References: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio writes, > In the broad sense of the term, to say that people lack culture > is to deny their existence, for to be alive and human is to have culture. :-) I'm reminded of this: "In an era of no borders, people who do not have a place to stand will be treated unseriously. A place is the past and history. A person with no history, a people who have forgotten their past, will vanish like snow, or be turned into chickens to keep laying eggs until they are eaten." http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/sen/proposal.html Unfortunately, I don't know where the original Japanese text would be. Anyway... > How do you paraphrase the clause that starts with 'for to be...' (line 2)? "because having culture is a consequence of being alive and human" "because being alive and being human is synonymous with having culture" > 'since that they are alive and human means that they have culture'? It's clumsy. And it's not quite parallel -- "people" is an indefinite collective noun, and "they" is a definite pronoun. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 19:09:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O09gt8023905 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:09:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:09:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006962C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:09:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4014491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:09:42 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5NNxevq002376 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:59:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 76152 invoked by uid 1003); 23 Jun 2005 23:59:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:59:40 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for to be alive and human Message-ID: <20050623235940.GA70795@words-l.org> References: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB48E9.6070903@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BB48E9.6070903@istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:42:33PM -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > How do you paraphrase the clause that starts with 'for to be...' (line 2)? > > "because having culture is a consequence of being alive and human" > > "because being alive and being human is synonymous with having culture" Lame as the original setence is, I disagree with these paraphrases. "To be human is to have culture" doesn't mean that being human has culture as its consequence. Or even that being human is synonymous with having culture--though that comes close to the author's boring sloganeering. What it means is that the word "cultured" connects--or is a good candidate for connecting--the ideas of "human" and "valuable". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 19:46:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O0kXt8027231 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:46:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:46:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00696254@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:46:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4016344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:46:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O0kVZ5006456 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:46:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so56666nzk for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr1681355nzb; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:46:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aOLA02MxSu4QghHUSQNVLOlQq7Xf1Mf9PXz5uj7CjcYxgOOHKAxpJ96eaDWnJESkzs3j2eo0714JAkOnnK2w5JrpErK1tkobF26wAbB9Xow0v0k4gquVcloWSa+IEeUPqcfhJ0bLTsaUTcY/DKegNR1gDSrST/WaH2I+9jNKs9w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050623174662cafdcf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:46:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... In-Reply-To: <42BB1D79.3090805@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225633.GC99265@words-l.org> <42BB1D79.3090805@bc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5O0kWZ5006457 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/23/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > Karen, > > How did it go? It was fine, went as well as can be expected. I'll know by next week. I think it's a job at which I could do exceptionally well, but--probably so could any one of the other finalists. I had an excellent recommendation from someone who used to work at the company, whom everyone thinks highly of. So that could help. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:45:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O1iwt8000531 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:44:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:45:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00696546@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:44:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4023680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:44:57 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O1ivBq016207 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:44:57 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.203]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624014457.SKUZ2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:44:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.203]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624014456.RFXO25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:44:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42BB6596.7060200@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:44:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Odd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just got the following from somebody @mpb.org -- that's Mississippi Public Broadcasting: > Dear Supporters of Public Broadcasting, > > You did it! > > Through your emails and calls to Mississippi’s U.S. Representatives > much of the devastating funding cuts to Public Broadcasting have been > restored in H.R. 3010, which includes the appropriation for the > Corporation for Public Broadcasting in Mississippi. The bill now moves > on to the U.S. Senate where many of you have also sent your words of > support for Public Broadcasting to Mississippi Senators Thad Cochran > and Trent Lott. > > Your support made all the difference. > And it goes on with other stuff. What's odd is that I am sure that I submitted my letters to Cochran, Lott, and Chippy-the-Chipmunk via moveon.org, not via MPB. I don't remember having gotten e-mail before from MPB, except maybe thank-yous for online contributions. Did any of you participate in moveon.org's recent letter campaign re PBS? If so, did you notice whether it said anything about sending a copy of your letters to your local PBS people? It suits me fine that they did. I have no objection whatsover. I was just curious about why this thank-you came from mpb.org. And speaking of moveon.org, I have not figured out how to change my info that's filed with them -- like my physical address. It doesn't really matter since it happens that I live in the half of Jackson that's in Chippy-the-Chipmunk's congressional district so my people in Washington are the same three a-holes. Iow, when I send things through moveon.org, they go to the right people. But if addresses are included, mine would be wrong. Any clues on how to with moveon.org? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:49:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O1n2t8001163 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:49:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:49:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FDC0A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:49:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4023792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:48:56 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O1mu8H016492 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:48:56 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.203]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624014856.SMNE2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:48:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.203]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624014855.RHBD25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:48:55 -0400 Message-ID: <42BB6686.4040605@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:48:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for to be alive and human References: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> <20050623165809.GD44584@words-l.org> <42BB25AC.5070305@maynor.net> <20050623224002.GA33541@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050623224002.GA33541@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Isn't that his point? I thought he was objecting to the use of "having >> >>culture" to mean having a certain kind of culture. >> >> >You are too innocent and know not the publishing beast. >He is not objecting to anything in particular; he probably >does not even intend to say anything specific. I'd say > > I am quite familiar with the publishing beast, having been required to be part of it for many years. The greatest joy of retirement is no longer having to publish assorted bs. >> Sort of like the old textbook examples of syllogisms >>like "All Communists read Karl Marx. He reads Karl Marx. >>Therefore, he is a Communist." >> >> >That's exceeding well put, by gad. > > That particular faulty syllogism sticks in my mind from an ancient freshman comp book that I used in my early years of teaching. I didn't invent it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:57:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O1vit8002202 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:57:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:57:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006965A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:57:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4024620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:57:44 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O1vikM017493 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:57:44 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.203]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624015744.SRAP2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:57:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.203]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624015743.RJPF25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:57:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42BB6896.3050808@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:57:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for to be alive and human References: <00dc01c577b4$d338c9a0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB48E9.6070903@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42BB48E9.6070903@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: >"because having culture is a consequence of being alive and human" > >"because being alive and being human is synonymous with having culture" > > I'm pondering these and am not sure I agree that they are paraphrases. Something about "consequence" doesn't seem quite right to me. I think something like "because having culture is a part of being alive and human" might be better. And "synonymous" bothers me even more. But suddenly I'm thinking that you're doing what was asked -- paraphrasing -- while I'm inserting my thoughts into it, not just strictly paraphrasing. Having said totally stupid things about the syntax earlier and being even blurrier of brain now than I probably was then, I should probably butt out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:59:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O1x2t8002334 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:59:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:59:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006964A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:59:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4024677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:59:02 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O1x12E017567 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:59:01 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.203]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624015901.SROB2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:59:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.203]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624015901.RJYV25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:59:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42BB68E4.4030507@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:59:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225633.GC99265@words-l.org> <42BB1D79.3090805@bc.edu> <8ddfc8a7050623174662cafdcf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050623174662cafdcf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I think it's a job at which I could do exceptionally well, >but--probably so could any one of the other finalists. I had an > > Do you know how many finalists there are? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 21:21:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O2Ljt8005675 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:21:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:21:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006965D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:01:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4024966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:01:44 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O21hr5017851 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:01:43 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005062402014101100rq75ce>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:01:41 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam and Marie Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:01:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42BB1E91.3080101@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Steph in Lexington says thank-you for your music suggestions. She's > enthusiastic about both. It sounds as if she's doing a super job of > organizing the service. Oh, good, I'm glad she found my suggestions useful. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 22:22:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O3M6t8012815 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:22:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:22:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00696AA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:22:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4034153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:22:06 -0400 Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com (imo-m18.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.208]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O3M5nQ025869 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:22:05 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.1db.3e4e3dc5 (16335) for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:22:01 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1db.3e4e3dc5.2fecd659@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:22:01 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Speaking of wishful switches... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/23/2005 7:46:42 PM Central Daylight Time, innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: I think it's a job at which I could do exceptionally well, i hope you get it! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 22:42:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O3g6t8014863 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:42:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:42:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00696B0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:42:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4035090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:42:05 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O3g0kB027216 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:42:00 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FDC667@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:42:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200506240342.j5O3g0kB027216@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:42:00 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Spouses of festers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:15:20 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >At 07:05 AM 6/20/2005, you wrote: >>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:08:15 -0500, Natalie Maynor >>wrote: >> >> >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> > >> >>Kind of like the inevitable relationship to the near-perfect spouse. >> >> >> >> >> >What does V think about the upcoming fest? Is he going to participate, >> >or is he going to hide? >> > >> >-- >> > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> >>For the most part, he's enthusiastic. He likes to grill, and to show >>off our home. But his tolerance for gatherings is limited, and he may >>well disappear for stretches of time. >>clo Thanks for the encouragement. I heard a rumor we should post a guest list. Afaik, it's Betty, Larry, Natalie, and the Wilds, with a possible mystery guest or two. > >We'll be gentle. Rita's husband was a good sport. Has anyone heard from Rita? She's alive and well. Has anyone heard from Rashmi? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:38:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O4cVt8021347 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:38:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:38:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDC823@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 0:37:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4039058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:37:41 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O4bfRB031868 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:37:41 -0400 Received: from a8p9z5.comcast.net (c-24-23-139-230.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.23.139.230]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005062404374001200jicohe>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:37:40 +0000 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050623213840.0264d230@mail.comcast.net> X-Sender: bfclark2@mail.comcast.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:39:04 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: BF Clark Subject: Re: HA!!!! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050623144840105b50@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050623144840105b50@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:48 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote: > From > http://www.woai.com/spurs/story.aspx?content_id=D843F384-9300-4C37-B631-8346177D0DFF > >This is a San Antonio news outlet, and even THEY think the Pistons will win! > >Ha! > >So there! > >Karen Sorry. HA!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:38:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O4cVt8021348 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:38:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:38:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDC78F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 0:28:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4035581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:27:45 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O3vSDY028423 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:57:28 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j5O3vSdP028618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:57:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200506240357.j5O3vSdP028618@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Spouses of festers Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I heard a rumor we should post a guest list. Afaik, it's Betty, Larry, > Natalie, and the Wilds, with a possible mystery guest or two. I'm hoping that I'll be able to make it. What hotel/motel are folks staying at? Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:49:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O4n5t8022839 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:49:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:49:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00696AEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 0:33:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4038942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:33:48 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O4Xll1031554 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:33:48 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 114787489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:33:47 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050623213427.0263edf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:35:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Spouses of festers In-Reply-To: <200506240357.j5O3vSdP028618@math.umb.edu> References: <200506240357.j5O3vSdP028618@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:57 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote: > > I heard a rumor we should post a guest list. Afaik, it's Betty, Larry, > > Natalie, and the Wilds, with a possible mystery guest or two. > >I'm hoping that I'll be able to make it. What hotel/motel are folks staying >at? > >Joan Microtel Inn-Syracuse East 6608 Old Collamer Road Syracuse, NY From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:49:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O4n5t8022837 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:49:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:49:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00696BC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 0:29:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4037616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:27:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O47XmH029600 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:07:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so196599nzp for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.2 with SMTP id y2mr1774706nzb; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:07:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EYThp6djxW74xVOZlGklO2g5P+SKMudemDqTBJud8WlbxefS/D6xmUHR+ZDdKFF6Bxmvvy/SJ9YAbkUDrGlpAy6ySq+vtkqR4ppY+yPBo3vn5lOURqtV7nOR14QuyXOzqSaDg8tVwIe33U9vMtmMqZlcxmaw5JXrxvhnOm/Lvfs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062321074e095bfc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:07:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... In-Reply-To: <42BB68E4.4030507@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225633.GC99265@words-l.org> <42BB1D79.3090805@bc.edu> <8ddfc8a7050623174662cafdcf@mail.gmail.com> <42BB68E4.4030507@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5O47XmH029601 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/23/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >I think it's a job at which I could do exceptionally well, > >but--probably so could any one of the other finalists. I had an > > > > > Do you know how many finalists there are? 4. They had their 3, then I got in at the last minute because I was referred. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 03:57:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O8vHt8021177 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:57:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:57:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069752B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 4:57:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4057103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:57:16 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O8vGft025889 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:57:16 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so824640wra for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.50.44 with SMTP id x44mr1724303wrx; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:57:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J1kwk6cKFL0ZMoITcEaQvrL1hUJXoBgxenSZjNvlBlpiVANE1U1Dk2cPX2va+2jwSgqOO9uHhY1pEEq9wzl/o8BGjDSpuufNcdNfdVIFvkYUEbhKvRNg036IZ6VUpD1KF/RrZ4EtJxnPi8HFaz10ApMxQ2qvTPWsMvwqmycF6NA= Message-ID: <8865866a05062401575013b2e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:57:16 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cotswold Way 2 In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050623152255.02a741f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a0506231023573a012b@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050623152255.02a741f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5O8vGft025890 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/24/05, Betty Clark wrote: > I love Marcia's travel logs best of all! > Thank you, Betty! That is exactly what I need to hear right now. My intestines aren't cooperating with me and I feel pretty yucky. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 04:10:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5O9AMt8023013 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:10:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:10:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006975EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 5:00:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4057237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:00:21 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5O90JPb026128 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:00:19 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so258110wri for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.114.6 with SMTP id m6mr1718464wrc; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:00:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MQs4dRxj9RpRth3fgcCEsMH6c7y9N1AUU7OYQdM/pzbrncyM6seD1YkGDm5BsQBsj7U7kAFUOveYR3C8OqdGjbh2ok0xHdcN6t5b9z8uNWX3mRcdWW5iOCN4U1PNq6qcEdpi6XKhXqQL29unfEQs42/wv0l0ZqoJXlm5Fn+Bm+A= Message-ID: <8865866a050624020065a53cde@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:00:19 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: bjorn.lindkvist@tomelilla.se, Vicki , Torkel , Pam , Mom , johnson , Gisela , English Language Discussion Group , Doug , Dan , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ann_St=E5lhammar?= Subject: Pictures of Cotswold trip Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5O90JPb026129 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I guess they are ready for viewing. A don't think they all have captions and a few may be out of order but.... Enjoy! http://rayofsunshine.photosite.com/walkingholidays/CotswoldWay/ Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 06:50:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OBoPe5006793 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:50:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:50:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDDCAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 7:50:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4074696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:50:25 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OBoPbU004497 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:50:25 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.78.97]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624115025.FGFN2064.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:50:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.78.97]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624115024.KCNG7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:50:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42BBF37F.7070306@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:50:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spouses of festers References: <200506240342.j5O3g0kB027216@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506240342.j5O3g0kB027216@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Has anyone heard from Rashmi? > > I certainly hope she's at the FingerFest. Among other reasons, we need to do the usual discussing of the next year's locale. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:04:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OC4Le5008291 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:04:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:04:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDDCB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 7:55:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4074824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:55:28 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OBtSK4005598 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:55:28 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.78.97]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624115528.FLMA2064.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:55:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.78.97]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624115527.KEAH7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:55:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42BBF4AD.7050900@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:55:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225633.GC99265@words-l.org> <42BB1D79.3090805@bc.edu> <8ddfc8a7050623174662cafdcf@mail.gmail.com> <42BB68E4.4030507@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705062321074e095bfc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062321074e095bfc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Do you know how many finalists there are? >> >> > >4. They had their 3, then I got in at the last minute because I was referred. > > Was that also the order of the interviews? Some people have the theory that being the last to be interviewed is best. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:04:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OC4Le5008287 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:04:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:04:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FDDCF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 7:54:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4074803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:54:20 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OBsK0I005452 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:54:20 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.78.97]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624115420.FKGZ2064.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:54:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.78.97]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624115419.KDRD7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:54:19 -0400 Message-ID: <42BBF46A.3050405@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:54:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spouses of festers References: <200506240357.j5O3vSdP028618@math.umb.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506240357.j5O3vSdP028618@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan Boorstein wrote: >I'm hoping that I'll be able to make it. What hotel/motel are folks staying >at? > > Microtel -- with free wireless internet. I will be arriving late on July 1 (iirc -- I need to gwtp and study the map and calendar again -- somewhere I have a folder labeled "FingerFest" that includes a printout of the motel confirmation with dates -- I do know that Spencer goes to be boarded on Tuesday, the 28th). Are people heading home on July 4 or on July 5? I made my hotel reservation for departure on the 5th because at that time I wasn't sure whether The Main Event would be on the 3rd or on the 4th. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:04:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OC4Le5008293 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:04:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:04:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FDDD0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 7:58:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4074905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:58:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OBw52X005825 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:58:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so389318nzo for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.13 with SMTP id d13mr1983862nzc; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:58:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GW8KPbg8jlS4j6LWY2me7JK2Cxc3UdaUx6Y9W2LC4caNv62i5gJEmIjzovrR9zxZsMx8NlXfdY+SEHibG+vaML0XrjVoRQjCz5WqQgis4TTqR+U50ne7yDPbtUTbjHTZvYW0xA+NohD4rrJV0JnO5MEBpgb9YXMpTqTUdGqv29U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050624045832a50a95@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:58:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of wishful switches... In-Reply-To: <42BBF4AD.7050900@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062213501d3c9710@mail.gmail.com> <20050622225633.GC99265@words-l.org> <42BB1D79.3090805@bc.edu> <8ddfc8a7050623174662cafdcf@mail.gmail.com> <42BB68E4.4030507@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705062321074e095bfc@mail.gmail.com> <42BBF4AD.7050900@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5OBw52X005826 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/24/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>Do you know how many finalists there are? > >> > >> > > > >4. They had their 3, then I got in at the last minute because I was referred. > > > > > Was that also the order of the interviews? Some people have the theory > that being the last to be interviewed is best. I was 3rd; the 4th is today. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 07:04:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OC4Le5008292 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:04:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:04:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FDDD78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 8:02:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4075732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:02:05 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OC24jK006431 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:02:04 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.78.97]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624120205.FSXG2064.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:02:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.78.97]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624120204.KGBY7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:02:04 -0400 Message-ID: <42BBF63A.6080301@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:02:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures of Cotswold trip References: <8865866a050624020065a53cde@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8865866a050624020065a53cde@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia Franzen wrote: >http://rayofsunshine.photosite.com/walkingholidays/CotswoldWay/ > > Great pictures!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:09:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OD9Ke5017433 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:09:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:09:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00697FC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 8:59:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4079106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:59:19 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OCxJSQ014386 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:59:19 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so333843wri for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.143.4 with SMTP id q4mr1816110wrd; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:59:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hkjBretA8KVxHpKDtqhT68bIYbu3gltMl82pGaNKsfbdi1E5f+/JtkKLFJZXgzlqSvi2+NSDNdnAcoL8pgUMypmeHaC8mnCOHnclmNV+X0grn6SHpr/cMpUCP/gRiGEx4BVfsuQe24Ldj/dAOaZ/WE0v6WM1UslWzb+474hqtqw= Message-ID: <83db447a050624055941a5a7f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:59:19 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures of Cotswold trip In-Reply-To: <8865866a050624020065a53cde@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8865866a050624020065a53cde@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5OD9Ke5017433 On 6/24/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > I guess they are ready for viewing. A don't think they all have > captions and a few may be out of order but.... NIce pictures. We were in the Cotswolds many years ago--on our first "motoring" visit to GB. I dimly recall Chipping Campden and some other lovely villages. As you noted, all the houses in some villages were identical, at least in terms of style and building material. We didn't hike there, and it was the first day after the hop across the pond, so remembrances are hazy indeed. Hope you're feeling better. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:51:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ODpEe5022762 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00698177@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 9:44:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4082172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:44:31 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ODiVe3022037 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:44:31 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 72809419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:44:30 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050624064525.02752eb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:46:04 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Spouses of festers In-Reply-To: <42BBF46A.3050405@maynor.net> References: <200506240357.j5O3vSdP028618@math.umb.edu> <42BBF46A.3050405@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:54 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote: >Joan Boorstein wrote: > >>I'm hoping that I'll be able to make it. What hotel/motel are folks staying >>at? >> >Microtel -- with free wireless internet. I will be arriving late on >July 1 (iirc -- I need to gwtp and study the map and calendar again -- >somewhere I have a folder labeled "FingerFest" that includes a printout >of the motel confirmation with dates -- I do know that Spencer goes to >be boarded on Tuesday, the 28th). > >Are people heading home on July 4 or on July 5? I made my hotel >reservation for departure on the 5th because at that time I wasn't sure >whether The Main Event would be on the 3rd or on the 4th. We leave on the 5th for the same reason. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:51:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ODpEe5022759 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00698084@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 9:31:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4081225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:31:13 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ODVDE8019777 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:31:13 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2005062413311311100os9fbe>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:31:13 +0000 Message-Id: <200506241331.j5ODVDE8019777@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Pictures of Cotswold trip Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:31:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <8865866a050624020065a53cde@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcV4myZvbMJIVHvpRu61LjBjMOFB0gAJboLQ Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcia Franzen >Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:00 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Pictures of Cotswold trip > >I guess they are ready for viewing. A don't think they all have >captions and a few may be out of order but.... > >Enjoy! > > >http://rayofsunshine.photosite.com/walkingholidays/CotswoldWay/ > >Marcia > Wonderful Pictures. I enjoyed looking thru them. Alec <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "To understand the heart and mind of a person, look not at what he has already achieved, but at what he aspires to do. " Lebanese artist & poet (1883 - 1931) Kahlil Gibran From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:51:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ODpJe5022775 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006980F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 9:51:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4082850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:51:12 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ODpCjN023390 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:51:12 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.106.163]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624135112.PMFK885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:51:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.106.163]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624135111.IDKZ1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:51:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Dumb Legal Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In reading about our (Mississippi's) a-hole Senators, including Thad Cochran's lame statements about not voting for the anti-lynching-law apology, I've been wondering about something. (I'm not surprised at Lott, btw, aka The Evil One, but I've actually voted for Cochran on more than one occasion -- he's one of very few Republicans who have kept me from being a Yellow-Dog Democrat -- not because I'm a fan of his but because his only opponent at times has been somebody like the now-deceased Booty Hunt, a sad village-idiot sort of person. I would have voted for Booty over Trent Lott, I should add.) Anyway, I'm glad it has been brought out by newspapers that Cochran's excuse about not apologizing for something he had no part in is a lie, given the fact that he not only voted for but in fact was a co-sponsor of one of the earlier Senate apologies -- the Indian one, I think -- he also voted for the Japanese-American one. But here's my question: Some of the descriptions of the failure of Congress to pass an anti-lynching resolution make it sound as if that made lynching legal when obviously it wasn't. Am I correct in assuming that the laws against homicide are state laws? If all states already had laws against homicide, would passing a federal anti-lynching law be just a symbolic gesture, or would it have practical value -- as in meaning that arrests and trials would be different -- would have been better in the lynching cases of that era? That's the dumb question since I realize I should probably know about things like state vs federal laws/courts/trials. (I do know a little bit about such things but obviously not enough -- like I know a little bit about when/how the FBI can be brought into a case, a little bit about federal vs local courts, etc. But I am clearly lacking in full knowledge and am curious about it re the anti-lynching legislation -- the lack thereof.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 08:51:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ODpEe5022763 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00697FB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 9:42:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4082080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:42:55 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ODgtB8021795 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:42:55 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 72809034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:42:54 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050624064355.02749b00@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:44:29 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Pictures of Cotswold trip In-Reply-To: <8865866a050624020065a53cde@mail.gmail.com> References: <8865866a050624020065a53cde@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:00 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote: >I guess they are ready for viewing. A don't think they all have >captions and a few may be out of order but.... > >Enjoy! > > >http://rayofsunshine.photosite.com/walkingholidays/CotswoldWay/ > >Marcia Walking. The BEST way to really see the country. Great photos. Betty From irsolutions@frznet.net Fri Jun 24 10:22:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from frznet.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OFMCe6000367 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:22:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200506241522.j5OFMCe6000367@gtoal.com> Received: from 72.26.221.12 ([72.26.221.12]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:22:23 CDT From: "SmallCap Breaking News" Subject: Capital Hill Gold - CHGI - Potential High Grade Gold Deposit To: words-l@gtoal.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf"; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: irsolutions@frznet.net Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:22:12 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format --=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Breaking News: DENVER, June 14, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Capital Hill Gold, Inc, ( CHGI ) reports that the company's geologists are evaluating a potential high-grade bulk-tonnage gold deposit located in Mineral County, Nevada, The project is situated in the vicinity of several operating and past-producing gold mines, including the Paradise Peak, Santa Fe and Rawhide deposits, After review of USGS geochemical survey work of the project and a study of the geology of other gold deposits in the area, geologists believe that the target would be a high-grade bulk-tonnage gold deposit,

Virgin Deposits: The privately-held 440-acre project was originally staked by a major gold mining company in the 1990s, The property has never been drilled and may prove to be a rich vein as early tests have indicated, Follow-up work by the company's geologist indicated that a major international gold mining company had staked approximately 200 unpatented lode-mining claims in the area during 2001 and 2002,

Geologists investigating the property for Capital Hill observed multiple broad zones of silicification extending for considerable distances, Samples were collected from several outcrops on the property, and have been submitted to American Assay Labs in Elko, Nevada for assaying, Based on positive assay results, target and identification, a major claim-staking program will be launched accordingly, as further credible evidence emerges of a significant gold ore deposit, And the first results coming in are showing promise,

On June 13 , 2005 the company announced in a press release that Capital Hill's management is pleased and encouraged with the first U 3 O 8 ( Uranium Oxide) assay returns as well as the noticeable precious metal results and that initial reconnaissance sampling on the company's uranium project has returned assays grading 0, 061% U 3 O 8 to 0, 068% U 3 O 8 Of great interest to the company is the fact that the samples taken also assayed positively for precious metals, with results ranging from 0, 08 to 0, 22 oz Ag/ST and trace amounts of gold, The occurrence of silver in conjunction with the uranium mineralization warrants further investigation.

The recent news of the company possibly sitting on a huge untapped gold deposit has the stock in a strong up trend, rallying from 5 cents to 75 cents during the past three months. As the three-month chart illustrates, trading volume has swelled to 300,000 shares per day with money flow indicators showing strong inflows, which is representative of a stock that is under accumulation. The positive tape action clearly shows strong investor sentiment about the company's leverage on controlling sizable parcels of gold fields. The potential recoverable gold data has yet to be compiled, but as mentioned above, early tests are very promising, which is why investors are bidding up shares ahead of this data.

Capital Hill Gold's strategic objective is to obtain controlling interests in properties with excellent exploration potential to become economically significant to world-class ore deposits. CHGI intends to acquire mineral exploration properties primarily through the filing of concessions on its own account and in partnership as well as by optioning exceptional properties at reasonable costs relative to the property's potential and the financial capabilities of the company.

In recent weeks, CHGI shareholders have been on the receiving end of some very promising developments with the new discoveries for gold ore. In addition, the company is aggressively exploring for commercial grade uranium deposits that will supply newly heightened demand from nuclear utilities. Since 2003 Uranium prices have doubled. 20% of the World's electricity comes from Uranium, and the nuclear power plant count is stable and growing. "The United States needs to add about 100 nuclear power plants over the next two decades to meet burgeoning demand for electric power and maintain the current generating mix," Nils J. Diaz, chairman of the U. S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission told reporters in early May 2005.

As of May 17, 2005 the company is pleased to report that the claim staking crew and geologist have arrived on site, and have begun staking claims. The area being staked encompasses a large area of potentially commercial-grade uranium mineralization identified by previous work, including geophysical surveys. Reconnaissance sampling of the ground being staked has returned assay results approximately equal to those of in-place resources at one of the past-producing uranium mines in the project area.

A Chinese news Web site reports that China, the world's second-largest energy consumer after the U. S. , will spend 400 billion Yuan (U. S. $48. 33 billion) on building new nuclear power plants by 2020. This is a bigger number than we have seen in the past. The energy-hungry country intends to increase the amount of installed nuclear power capacity from the current 16 gigawatts to 40 gigawatts within 15 years. Nuclear power generation is expected to triple to reach 60 gigawatts by that time. So the market for uranium is in a new bull market.

Conclusion
Development efforts for gold and uranium on CHGI properties are about to commence following the better-than-expected geophysical testing results. Shares of CHGI have rallied over 10-fold in just the past three months in anticipation of what the future holds in the way of extractible gold and uranium. Once full mining operations are under way, it is our view, that the shares will rally as the business generates its initial revenue stream.

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--=_NextPart_2rfkindysadvnqw3nerasdf-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:47:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OFl6e5003435 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:47:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:47:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00698D4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:47:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4108093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:47:06 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OFl5Jn016928 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:47:06 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00698B94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:47:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200506241547.j5OFl5Jn016928@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:47:05 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Spouses of festers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:57:28 -0400, Joan Boorstein wrote: >> I heard a rumor we should post a guest list. Afaik, it's Betty, Larry, >> Natalie, and the Wilds, with a possible mystery guest or two. > >I'm hoping that I'll be able to make it. What hotel/motel are folks staying >at? > >Joan YaY! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:50:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OFoYe5003944 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:50:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:50:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00698D70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:50:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4108438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:50:34 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OFoYrb017900 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:50:34 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDEEFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:50:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200506241550.j5OFoYrb017900@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:50:34 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Question re the Brad Checks To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:49:01 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Would anybody mind if I went on and mailed these checks before leaving >for Syracuse and then sent clo's later as an add-on? Are there any >other checks on their way here at this point? Somehow I'd feel better >doing that than going off and leaving over $800 worth of checks sitting >in an envelope on my bulletin board. It's not that I think a burglar is >likely to be able to (or choose to) do anything with them. It just >seems like a thing to do -- and those of you who do a monthly >bank-statement reconciliation wouldn't have to wait as long for the >check to clear. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Definitely go ahead and mail them! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:59:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OFx4e5004858 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:59:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:59:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDEEED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:49:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4108290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:49:03 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OFn3PU017490 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:49:03 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624154903.XXTM885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:49:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624154903.KRXD11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:49:03 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC2B6D.7030905@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:49:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Question re the Brad Checks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Would anybody mind if I went on and mailed these checks before leaving for Syracuse and then sent clo's later as an add-on? Are there any other checks on their way here at this point? Somehow I'd feel better doing that than going off and leaving over $800 worth of checks sitting in an envelope on my bulletin board. It's not that I think a burglar is likely to be able to (or choose to) do anything with them. It just seems like a thing to do -- and those of you who do a monthly bank-statement reconciliation wouldn't have to wait as long for the check to clear. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 10:59:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OFx4e5004860 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:59:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:59:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDEEF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:49:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4108361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:49:57 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OFnuGi017692 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:49:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FDEF2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:49:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200506241549.j5OFnuGi017692@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:49:56 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Spouses of festers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:46:04 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >At 04:54 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote: >>Joan Boorstein wrote: >> >>>I'm hoping that I'll be able to make it. What hotel/motel are folks staying >>>at? >>> >>Microtel -- with free wireless internet. I will be arriving late on >>July 1 (iirc -- I need to gwtp and study the map and calendar again -- >>somewhere I have a folder labeled "FingerFest" that includes a printout >>of the motel confirmation with dates -- I do know that Spencer goes to >>be boarded on Tuesday, the 28th). >> >>Are people heading home on July 4 or on July 5? I made my hotel >>reservation for departure on the 5th because at that time I wasn't sure >>whether The Main Event would be on the 3rd or on the 4th. > >We leave on the 5th for the same reason. > >Betty We'll just have to lengthen the festivities a bit. Y'all can help me celebrate Mercy's bday, since she won't be back till the 6th. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 11:12:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OGCce5006375 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:12:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:12:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00698D80@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:52:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4108634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:52:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OFqauu018487 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:52:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so433937nzk for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.11 with SMTP id o11mr1624200nzo; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:52:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PRWPtrwekFo18qM3ZAQwuf+lWnUHxQZZjK8PHIXhV7nmEvwMYdkYB64hvjxoMeQiKMCrw1FAr7gxbM8nKVoDtqPNBFgOkmtNYQ43ZLwfcgZFTWZAFN1Exrcd0lyQqG/0INt+mGV2CIJa9p5vkkXHcQrevmEBgOfY/i/cm00WEno= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050624085227e93d0d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:52:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: As I listen to The Shrublet blather on... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5OFqauu018488 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I keep thinking about a book review I read this morning, of "Sands of Empire: Missionary Zeal, American Foreign Policy, and the Hazards of Global Ambition" by Robert W. Merry. " The reviewer says, "Merry is an ardent foe of the neoconservative foreign policy of George W. Bush, rooted as it is in utopian idea that the world can be remade along American lines. He excoriates the thinking that led to the invasion of Iraq, denigrating it as the product of a "world outlook and political idealism that are alluring [and] comforting [but also] false and highly dangerous." And he argues that the Iraqi misadventure has exacerbated Muslim antipathy to the West, not assuaged it." Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:06:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OH60e5013501 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:06:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:06:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00699217@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:45:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4121831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:46:00 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OGjxxd029798 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:45:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:45:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:45:46 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: fingerfest design Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If anyone would like to see it I will send it to you backchannel as an attachment. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:06:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OH60e5013502 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:06:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:06:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006992C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:57:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4123243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:57:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OGvQiC031264 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:57:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so490589nzp for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.96.9 with SMTP id t9mr2164822nzb; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:57:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HDIrpAFSvxdIvx7no0JMgwVsc7Pve+VrhI4DR5YzHlT9fXFP1nMoXkHof7amNMTG5wcz+TZzo5BnZsHD8VrbgPntgYsfhSHYYXm46DC1l6fA7XCHzdDLlbXhaG0++uMxbGlGmOkGJrzLycitHQemeA2A9JvPySniFejCf5irmko= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506240957e258b10@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:57:23 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: fingerfest design In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5OGvRiC031265 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/24/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > If anyone would like to see it I will send it to you backchannel as an > attachment. So your computers are working again?! I like the design a lot. The puppet is SO CUTE!! It's a very BrP design. When can we order them? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:20:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHJne5015342 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:19:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:20:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FDF79F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:59:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4123307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:59:49 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OGxme4031468 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:59:49 -0400 Received: from gatewaysystem (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050624165948m92008j93be>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:59:48 +0000 Message-ID: <016c01c578de$27f3a940$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> From: "David Guy Fetzer" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42BB6596.7060200@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Odd Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:59:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: I participated as well but did not see any mention of anything that would have indicated that a response would come from local PBS. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: Odd >I just got the following from somebody @mpb.org -- that's Mississippi > Public Broadcasting: > >> Dear Supporters of Public Broadcasting, >> >> You did it! >> >> Through your emails and calls to Mississippi’s U.S. Representatives >> much of the devastating funding cuts to Public Broadcasting have been >> restored in H.R. 3010, which includes the appropriation for the >> Corporation for Public Broadcasting in Mississippi. The bill now moves >> on to the U.S. Senate where many of you have also sent your words of >> support for Public Broadcasting to Mississippi Senators Thad Cochran >> and Trent Lott. >> >> Your support made all the difference. >> > And it goes on with other stuff. What's odd is that I am sure that I > submitted my letters to Cochran, Lott, and Chippy-the-Chipmunk via > moveon.org, not via MPB. I don't remember having gotten e-mail before > from MPB, except maybe thank-yous for online contributions. Did any of > you participate in moveon.org's recent letter campaign re PBS? If so, > did you notice whether it said anything about sending a copy of your > letters to your local PBS people? It suits me fine that they did. I have > no objection whatsover. I was just curious about why this thank-you came > from mpb.org. > > And speaking of moveon.org, I have not figured out how to change my info > that's filed with them -- like my physical address. It doesn't really > matter since it happens that I live in the half of Jackson that's in > Chippy-the-Chipmunk's congressional district so my people in Washington > are the same three a-holes. Iow, when I send things through moveon.org, > they go to the right people. But if addresses are included, mine would > be wrong. Any clues on how to with moveon.org? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:21:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHLTe5015593 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:21:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:21:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006995A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:21:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4129052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:21:29 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHLS69004240 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:21:28 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624172128.CPWG885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:21:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624172124.MTHK1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:21:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC4112.1030009@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:21:22 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spouses of festers References: <200506241549.j5OFnuGi017692@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506241549.j5OFnuGi017692@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >We'll just have to lengthen the festivities a bit. >Y'all can help me celebrate Mercy's bday, since she won't >be back till the 6th. > > Sounds good. Or we could tromp around cemeteries taking pictures of graves. I should check out Syracuse on Find-a-Grave and see which cemeteries are in need of pictures. Cemetery-tromping is fun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:24:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHO0e5015801 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:24:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:24:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00699769@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:24:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4129257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:24:00 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHO0Ds005042 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:24:00 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624172359.CSTC885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:23:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624172359.MUOS1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:23:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC41AD.3010401@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:23:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question re the Brad Checks References: <200506241550.j5OFoYrb017900@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506241550.j5OFoYrb017900@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Definitely go ahead and mail them! > > Ok. I'll probably mail them tomorrow. If I mailed them today, they'd probably get there tomorrow (though not necessarily -- mail between Jackson and Starkville sometimes takes two days, and the same may be true with Tupelo), and I think it's better for something like this to arrive on a weekday when the regular library staff are presumably at work, as opposed to a Saturday, when libraries sometimes have . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:25:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHP7e5015966 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:25:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:25:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006996F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:25:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4129740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:25:06 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHP6K9006388 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:25:06 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624172506.CUEA885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:25:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624172506.MVCG1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:25:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC41F0.3020509@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:25:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: fingerfest design References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >If anyone would like to see it I will send it to you backchannel as an >attachment. > > Me! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:29:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHSxe5016338 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:29:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:29:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDFC57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:28:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4131874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:28:03 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHS38c007697 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:28:03 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:28:03 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:27:42 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Spouses of festers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I would love to cemetery tromp with you. Oakwood is a great place. It may be reasonably well documented, but it is a lovely old cemetery. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 06/24/05 1:21 PM >>> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >We'll just have to lengthen the festivities a bit. >Y'all can help me celebrate Mercy's bday, since she won't >be back till the 6th. > > Sounds good. Or we could tromp around cemeteries taking pictures of graves. I should check out Syracuse on Find-a-Grave and see which cemeteries are in need of pictures. Cemetery-tromping is fun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:36:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHaYe5017256 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:36:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:36:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00699743@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:26:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4130446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:26:01 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHQ1T8007297 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:26:01 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624172559.CVNC885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:25:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624172555.MVNJ1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:25:55 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC421E.5080000@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:25:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Odd References: <42BB6596.7060200@maynor.net> <016c01c578de$27f3a940$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> In-Reply-To: <016c01c578de$27f3a940$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU David Guy Fetzer wrote: > Natalie: > > I participated as well but did not see any mention of anything that would > have indicated that a response would come from local PBS. This strange. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:36:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHaYe5017262 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:36:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:36:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069975F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:31:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4132622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:31:47 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHVkc4008479 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:31:46 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23955087 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:32:03 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:32:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:31:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1312237895.20050624113144@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HA!!!! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050623144840105b50@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050623144840105b50@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.047000 Subject has lots of exclamation marks=1.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=85715, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yeah, well, didn't make them right, did it? 6/23/2005, 3:48 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> From AFoA> http://www.woai.com/spurs/story.aspx?content_id=D843F384-9300-4C37-B631-8346177D0DFF AFoA> This is a San Antonio news outlet, and even THEY think the Pistons will win! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:36:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHaYe5017255 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:36:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:36:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069976F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:34:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4132887 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:34:52 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHYqNO009173 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:34:52 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:34:52 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:34:15 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: fingerfest design Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hope to have that information very soon BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/24/05 12:57 PM >>> When can we order them? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:36:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHaYe5017260 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:36:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:36:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00699762@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:32:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4132660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:32:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHWXWr008614 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:32:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:32:32 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:31:55 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Odd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I thought maybe you'd turned Russian or something BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 06/24/05 1:28 PM >>> Natalie Maynor wrote: > This strange. That was supposed to say Tis, not This. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:36:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHaYe5017261 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:36:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:36:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069982B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:29:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4132084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:28:50 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHSoXe007807 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:28:50 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624172849.CZOZ885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:28:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624172849.MXAZ1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:28:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC42CF.8030806@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:28:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Odd References: <42BB6596.7060200@maynor.net> <016c01c578de$27f3a940$0835d60c@gatewaysystem> <42BC421E.5080000@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BC421E.5080000@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > This strange. That was supposed to say Tis, not This. But the reason I'm replying is to add that I just got a thank-you from moveon.org also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:54:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHrpe5019360 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:53:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:54:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006997A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:45:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4133863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:45:23 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHjLk9011432 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:45:21 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624174521.ZIQI8692.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:45:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624174520.PGCL13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:45:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC46AA.5000501@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:45:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spouses of festers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >I would love to cemetery tromp with you. Oakwood is a great place. It >may be reasonably well documented, but it is a lovely old cemetery. > > Somebody has taken some very nice cover pictures of Oakwood: http://tinyurl.com/9hz9v But there are lots of graves in need of pictures. And here are a few more needy cemeteries in Syracuse: Assumption, Loomis Hill, Myrtle Hill, Saint Agnes, Woodlawn. It might also be fun to take cemetery pictures in Ithaca. Ithaca City Cemetery sounds interesting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:54:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHrpe5019362 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:53:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:54:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00699969@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:46:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4133987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:46:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHkFpp011709 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:46:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so500151nzk for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr2201764nzc; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:46:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZvHrdvDyV1Lu/OcYksgZjIPxU6vFJdML13DxhhlZgBuzFyYnSATRbA+pRdlbiNQCCSeLQvyw5p26aGMu71YutfiPGyRUYvaskrhYvtqlRF7ZwZ7jICsXM6hdmQ4FEc4HRXBba/N1YLvxKaDjIBtMzvmm2HsLMKiSuEVvgFKfpqs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050624104658f7bd1a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:46:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HA!!!! In-Reply-To: <1312237895.20050624113144@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050623144840105b50@mail.gmail.com> <1312237895.20050624113144@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5OHkFpp011720 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Nope--but it was a good game and they all played their hearts out. On 6/24/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Yeah, well, didn't make them right, did it? > > 6/23/2005, 3:48 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> From > AFoA> http://www.woai.com/spurs/story.aspx?content_id=D843F384-9300-4C37-B631-8346177D0DFF > > AFoA> This is a San Antonio news outlet, and even THEY think the Pistons will win! > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:54:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHrpe5019359 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:53:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:54:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00699959@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:43:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4133757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:43:51 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHhprk011244 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:43:51 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5OHhpvR026683 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:43:51 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5OHhgb5006995 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:43:43 -0400 Message-ID: <03b401c578e4$43a4d640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: fingerfest design Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:43:41 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Meee! Meee! awild@uri.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" > If anyone would like to see it I will send it to you backchannel as an > attachment. > > > BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:56:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHuje5019585 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:56:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:56:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FDFEBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4135750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHuOUM013500 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so505009nzk for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr2207906nzc; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:56:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hb3CeXri5LQPm7esVzJjzIL+ZnukBtjhSjuidKNOApdrG+WArDzUBQ8fROEaNx5Ze+rZ7XhNf+TivnLOTpdc1rIowAgXBrngSke3A1nxGkC4SIJN1rnAKaXtyIiUdWiHDVpwk7qXlvf08sCtIxtb6fq+d+Iuh5abJVPCD2y5dio= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506241056574eea95@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:56:23 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spouses of festers In-Reply-To: <42BC46AA.5000501@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BC46AA.5000501@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5OHuOUM013502 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/24/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > It might also be fun to take cemetery > pictures in Ithaca. Ithaca City Cemetery sounds interesting. Is that the one behind Cornell? If so, I used to walk through it most days; it's very cool. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:56:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHule5019589 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:56:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:56:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDFE74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4135808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:39 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHudlJ013575 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:39 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:38 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:19 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Spouses of festers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I mentioned Oakwood because it is large and not too far from clo's house (and adjacent to the University). Woodlawn is where 5 generations of my ancestors are buried. Most of their graves are unmarked, though. I'm sure I have a few relatives in Oakwood as well. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 06/24/05 1:45 PM >>> But there are lots of graves in need of pictures. And here are a few more needy cemeteries in Syracuse: Assumption, Loomis Hill, Myrtle Hill, Saint Agnes, Woodlawn. It might also be fun to take cemetery pictures in Ithaca. Ithaca City Cemetery sounds interesting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 12:57:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OHuue5019613 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:56:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:57:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069999A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4135852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:54 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OHuss9013637 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:54 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624175654.ZPOB8692.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624175654.PJYU13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:56:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC4964.7070406@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:56:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spouses of festers References: <42BC46AA.5000501@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BC46AA.5000501@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/9hz9v Check out the first in the list of interments. The "bio" is funny. In case you don't want to chase the url, here's what it says: *********** Inscription: RANDALL Note: Aunt Marys ashes where found in Auntie Arshs basement . So after all that time ,we thought she should be buried with her sister . And thats what we did *********** -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:11:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OIBEe5021370 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:11:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:11:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00699941@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:01:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4137103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:01:13 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OI1DYs014382 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:01:13 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624180113.ZRSX8692.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:01:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624180113.PLKK13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:01:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC4A67.4000005@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:01:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spouses of festers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Woodlawn is where 5 generations of my ancestors are buried. Most of >their graves are unmarked, though. > > Is it very far away? Maybe we can wander in it, as well as in Oakwood. And, of course, rural cemeteries are often even more fun. My favorite cemeteries in summer are shady ones, I should add. But with a headband to help catch the sweat, I can do sunny ones also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:11:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OIBEe5021373 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:11:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:11:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00699B30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:04:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4137629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:04:50 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OI4oil015022 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:04:50 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624180450.ZTPM8692.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:04:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624180450.PMSG13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:04:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC4B40.7060301@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:04:48 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Ithaca References: <42BC46AA.5000501@maynor.net> <42BC4964.7070406@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BC4964.7070406@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Find-a-Grave doesn't have a picture or even a map for Ithaca City Cemetery, but I got the location info from this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytompki/cemeteries/tcem026_new.htm It does sound like an interesting cemetery. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:11:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OIBEe5021374 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:11:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:11:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00699AA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:10:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4139900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:10:07 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OIA7hO016417 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:10:07 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624181007.ZWGN8692.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:10:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624181007.POPX13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:10:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC4C7D.10505@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:10:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spouses of festers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Nothing in Syracuse is far away by car. There are some interesting rural >cemeteries as well. > > I'm excited! And y'all can help me use my new camera. (I will have both old and new with me, of course.) I need to make sure the new card-reader works with the laptop so that I can dump pictures onto the computer during this trip and reuse the cards (of which I have a fair number now, but when you start taking cemetery pictures, the cards fill up fast). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:13:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OICUe5021452 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:12:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:13:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FDFF9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:02:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4137325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:02:20 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OI2KUn014535 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:02:20 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.99.116]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624180219.ZSGS8692.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:02:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.99.116]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624180219.PLUJ13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:02:19 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC4AA9.70204@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:02:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spouses of festers References: <42BC46AA.5000501@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506241056574eea95@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506241056574eea95@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>It might also be fun to take cemetery >>pictures in Ithaca. Ithaca City Cemetery sounds interesting. >> >> > >Is that the one behind Cornell? If so, I used to walk through it most >days; it's very cool. > > Yes, I think that must be the one. It is supposedly on the west (downhill) side of west campus -- easily accessed from Stewart or University streets. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:13:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OICUe5021451 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:12:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:13:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FDFF8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:04:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4137619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:04:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OI4ZNG014986 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:04:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so509469nzk for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr2212112nzc; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:04:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Yvi/T+xUCvZ7/ULGcz+CSv9kjt5S0LyARsfbWryv2SU76hes3fhg1uiSzDaFVRQOhyLI20Ml4CD0ZwC1+L48HdAP5Uyn4J7QDTnMHHgGJ2T0v7AUERHvM3/KuMMKGL/oYrrQ9AnskoZqiKEyFFG0BovOTjiKYk/KfmgIwEOvEC0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050624110447712d10@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:04:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spouses of festers In-Reply-To: <42BC4AA9.70204@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BC46AA.5000501@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506241056574eea95@mail.gmail.com> <42BC4AA9.70204@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5OI4ZNG014989 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/24/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Yes, I think that must be the one. It is supposedly on the west > (downhill) side of west campus -- easily accessed from Stewart or > University streets. Yep, that's it. A lot of the graves have collapsed into the ground, so it's very wavy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:13:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OICUe5021450 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:12:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:13:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE0068@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:06:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4138637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:05:30 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OI5UZA015327 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:05:30 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:05:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:04:53 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Spouses of festers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Nothing in Syracuse is far away by car. There are some interesting rural cemeteries as well. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 06/24/05 2:01 PM >>> Is it very far away? Maybe we can wander in it, as well as in Oakwood. And, of course, rural cemeteries are often even more fun. My favorite cemeteries in summer are shady ones, I should add. But with a headband to help catch the sweat, I can do sunny ones also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:24:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OIO6e5022794 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:24:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:24:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00699D71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:24:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4143504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:24:05 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OINspi019444 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:23:54 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5OINsvP006170 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:23:54 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5OINoFb021472 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:23:51 -0400 Message-ID: <03ff01c578e9$df31c0a0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <03b401c578e4$43a4d640$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Subject: Re: Re: fingerfest design Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:23:48 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes! Well done! You didn't want to include an image of Heston with a S&W 76 ? 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Wild" To: Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: Re: fingerfest design > Meee! Meee! > > awild@uri.edu > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Barfoot" >> If anyone would like to see it I will send it to you backchannel as an >> attachment. >> >> >> BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 13:48:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OImSe5025614 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:48:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:48:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00699CAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:28:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4144176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:28:27 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OISReq020620 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:28:27 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:28:27 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:28:14 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: fingerfest design Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU thought you might want to use that for next year's SecondAmendnentFest >>> awild@URI.EDU 06/24/05 2:23 PM >>> Yes! Well done! You didn't want to include an image of Heston with a S&W 76 ? 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Wild" To: Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: Re: fingerfest design > Meee! Meee! > > awild@uri.edu > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Barfoot" >> If anyone would like to see it I will send it to you backchannel as an >> attachment. >> >> >> BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 14:08:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OJ8oe5027976 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:08:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:08:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069A0BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:08:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4149102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:07:39 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OIvdCA028284 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:57:39 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5OIv6AC008359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:57:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:57:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So no one is planning to detour through Omaha? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 14:40:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OJeDe5030794 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:40:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:40:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069A5BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:40:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4160506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:40:13 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OJeAAJ008182 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:40:11 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5OJe94v013584 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:40:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:40:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ithaca In-Reply-To: <42BC4B40.7060301@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42BC46AA.5000501@maynor.net> <42BC4964.7070406@maynor.net> <42BC4B40.7060301@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Find-a-Grave doesn't have a picture or even a map for Ithaca City > Cemetery, but I got the location info from this site: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytompki/cemeteries/tcem026_new.htm > > It does sound like an interesting cemetery. Some scenes in the novel "Fool on the Hill" take place in that cemetery. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 14:47:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OJkve5031739 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:46:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:47:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069A527@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:46:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4160944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:46:56 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OJktdW009558 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:46:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE0C9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:46:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200506241946.j5OJktdW009558@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:46:55 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Spouses of festers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:21:22 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>We'll just have to lengthen the festivities a bit. >>Y'all can help me celebrate Mercy's bday, since she won't >>be back till the 6th. >> >> >Sounds good. Or we could tromp around cemeteries taking pictures of >graves. I should check out Syracuse on Find-a-Grave and see which >cemeteries are in need of pictures. Cemetery-tromping is fun. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I can see I should have included this in "local attractions"! http://www.shadesofoakwood.com/ clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:10:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OLAHe5009580 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:10:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:10:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE0F6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:04:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4167336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:04:57 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OL4uRS026224 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:04:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 23973645 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:05:14 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:05:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:04:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <994768646.20050624150454@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: HA!!!! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050624104658f7bd1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050623144840105b50@mail.gmail.com> <1312237895.20050624113144@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050624104658f7bd1a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.047000 Subject has lots of exclamation marks=1.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=85827, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/24/2005, 11:46 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Nope--but it was a good game and they all played their hearts out. Can't argue with that. And that was true of the last three games. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:10:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OLAHe5009579 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:10:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:10:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE0F11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:00:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4166576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:00:16 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OL0F8L025534 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:00:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23893869 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:11:33 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:00:44 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:00:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <167869298.20050624150013@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Dumb Legal Question In-Reply-To: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> References: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=100052, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/24/2005, 7:51 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> at times has been somebody like the NM> now-deceased Booty Hunt, a sad village-idiot sort of person. Was this his actual name or nickname, or just a description of his behavior? Could be B movie title, that's for sure.....if it hasn't been already. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:11:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OLBYe5009694 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:11:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:11:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069A717@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:08:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4167634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:08:31 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OL8Vud026763 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:08:31 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22962973 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:51:20 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:08:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:08:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1748785841.20050624150828@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: A Dumb Legal Question In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050624140268f90839@mail.gmail.com> References: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> <167869298.20050624150013@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050624140268f90839@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 234, in=83615, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/24/2005, 3:02 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> B movie? It could be an XXX movie title. Well, could be....but there are other more "mainstream" movies like Booty Call, and at least others at imdb.com, including 1943's Puss n' Booty. Now if THAT doesn't sound like a porn title.... dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:11:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OLBYe5009692 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:11:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:11:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069A5D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:01:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4167044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:01:33 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OL1WtG025838 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:01:33 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23747514 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:26:03 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:02:01 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:01:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1185089831.20050624150130@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Dumb Legal Question In-Reply-To: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> References: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 238, in=87061, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/24/2005, 7:51 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> If all states already NM> had laws against homicide, would passing a federal anti-lynching law be NM> just a symbolic gesture, or would it have practical value -- as in NM> meaning that arrests and trials would be different -- would have been NM> better in the lynching cases of that era? My understanding is that it would be mainly figurative in nature, but would make lynching a federal crime, with federal prosecution, etc, which would probably improve the chances of conviction. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 16:11:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OLBYe5009693 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:11:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:11:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069A5DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:02:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4167080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:02:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OL2IA5025903 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:02:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so574053nzp for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.32.11 with SMTP id f11mr2328594nzf; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:02:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZO6pkPGCZG5+K8UT6ZVywZzxiFQUwaBThnIiUjK7Vp3qobhCznZ4TGkqj5tPNtmqZSowuvSRvzYRjkzyQ1utBbAqnICd63w2UTk91zgD54qDRmxrPQptCwcK4F1SVwi0IszRCH5IxujcW2bN/WFFbtnO/2SPKJ2QghQ9c9SYlOI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050624140268f90839@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:02:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Dumb Legal Question In-Reply-To: <167869298.20050624150013@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> <167869298.20050624150013@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5OL2KA5025904 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU B movie? It could be an XXX movie title. On 6/24/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/24/2005, 7:51 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> at times has been somebody like the > NM> now-deceased Booty Hunt, a sad village-idiot sort of person. > > Was this his actual name or nickname, or just a description of his > behavior? Could be B movie title, that's for sure.....if it hasn't > been already. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 17:43:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OMhXe5019699 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:43:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:43:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069A947@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:43:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4173988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:43:33 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OMhWIx008069 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:43:32 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624224333.SUWO2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:43:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624224332.GUYL25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:43:32 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC8C91.7040302@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:43:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >So no one is planning to detour through Omaha? > > If it were in Boise, I would give that serious consideration. Speaking of routes, I had been assuming all this time that I-81 was the route since Syracuse is on I-81. But when I looked at the map, I realized that that really isn't the best route -- the western route is probably closer. Now I'm thinking that for variety I may go up I-81 and return the western way -- through Cincinnati etc. LarryK: Are you definitely going to make it to Brad's memorial service? I've studied the calendar and realized that it would be *extremely* complicated for me to arrange things so that I could be in Lexington late afternoon of the 7th. But it would be terrible (imho) if there was no Wordsler presence. I hope you are going to be there! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 17:44:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OMhte5019753 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:43:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:44:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069A949@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:43:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4174007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:43:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OMhsXK008098 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:43:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s1so10655nze for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.18 with SMTP id l18mr2382239nzl; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:43:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Pg12Eta9h8aXoOUcgcWB+nzwltib8I5S211APhFOhc77FXSiZt3ofWObLL/6ilYEHbV/xDv70yTEv3KCIKT/82K2alAJav1DgQ1rO4f9tWXnE17+UrZRMUN3TWJgD3fXfhL7n+VptwHrsFCMyGgOiG1C/X7pU5lvisSjMgmxDow= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062415433b982cfd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:43:53 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Is Karl on drugs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5OMhsXK008099 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is part of what he said the other day: "Conservatives believe in lower taxes; liberals believe in higher taxes. We want few regulations; they want more. Conservatives measure the effectiveness of government programs by results; liberals measure the effectiveness of government programs by inputs. We believe in curbing the size of government; they believe in expanding the size of government. Conservatives believe in making America a less litigious society; liberals believe in making America a more litigious society. We believe in accountability and parental choice in education; they don't. Conservatives believe in advancing what Pope John Paul II called a "culture of life"; liberals believe there is an absolute unlimited right to abortion." So if "conservatives" want fewer regulations and effective government programs and to curb the size of government, why are there more regulations, ineffective government programs, and more government? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 17:51:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5OMpZe5020716 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:51:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:51:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069A857@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:51:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4174410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:51:35 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5OMpZO8009119 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:51:35 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624225135.SYUN2424.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:51:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624225134.GXKB25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:51:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC8E74.5080008@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:51:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Dumb Legal Question References: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> <167869298.20050624150013@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <167869298.20050624150013@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> at times has been somebody like the >NM> now-deceased Booty Hunt, a sad village-idiot sort of person. > >Was this his actual name or nickname, or just a description of his > > I realize that I misspelled it. It's Bootie. I discovered that by googling for him to see whether he had another name since I had a vague memory of seeing another name on ballots with "Bootie" in parentheses. And my googling made me find out what else he had done in life besides run for office: he was a farmer and factory worker: **************** His unfunded Democratic opponent, James "Bootie" Hunt, a retired farmer and factory worker, had gotten a one-way Greyhound ticket to attend the Democratic convention after a friend pawned a wedding ring for $200, and had slept in a homeless shelter in Chicago.^(80) <#N_80_> **************** from: http://www2.msstate.edu/~kauai/research/Elect96.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 18:12:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ONCTe5023145 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:12:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:12:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069A9A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:12:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4175154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:12:29 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ONCSOn010700 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:12:28 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 72970970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:12:28 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050624161323.0277de90@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:13:58 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: , now FEST In-Reply-To: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >web.syr.edu/~clostran/Fest.htm > > >clo What is the exact street name and number? Turn right at first stop light, onto Westcott St. Go through stop sign st Harvard St, and turn left in the next block (Victoria Pl). We are the fourth house past the library on the left, gray with blue and red trim: From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 18:16:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ONFwe5023645 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:15:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:16:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE1355@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:15:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4175215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:15:52 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ONFpTr011168 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:15:51 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624231551.UYHU885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:15:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050624231551.TOSU1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:15:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42BC9425.7060007@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:15:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: , now FEST References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050624161323.0277de90@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050624161323.0277de90@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > What is the exact street name and number? That is a good question. I think this time I'll look it up on Mapquest -- as opposed to wandering into St. Louis last year without a clue of anything about St. Louis and finding that somehow I was re the directions Rita had given. It's hard to get back on track when you don't have a map or any knowledge except some directions that no longer apply! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 18:21:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ONLAe5024364 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:21:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:21:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069AA72@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:21:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4175548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:21:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ONL93B012676 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:21:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so628553wra for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.39.1 with SMTP id m1mr2090552wrm; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:21:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RyylbqGgk3dkQMO39xubrKW9CO8torfAFJDqxkgVYpTD/8tDGaOJJ/0lk4KZeaDyHlJgPXw7qfDDbqLrTomhfsbn2bttNjqF3ARplkNbOf7APWeOW7vogPnad1bKa1dng1AZld5TaPZwNXF/jLZx1YHTkskF6ChvDWE152xgWYM= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:21:09 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Karl on drugs In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062415433b982cfd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a705062415433b982cfd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5ONLAe5024364 > > So if "conservatives" want fewer regulations and effective government > programs and to curb the size of government, why are there more > regulations, ineffective government programs, and more government? > Karen > There aren't. The private sector is now in charge. Big business is free from all those nasty environmental laws. And the poor are free to find jobs in that private sector without those nasty incentives that made them lazy like government-sponsored health care and food stamps and the like. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 19:24:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P0ORe5031863 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:24:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:24:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069AC4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:24:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4178414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:24:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P0OLPL027379 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:24:21 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE14C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:24:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200506250024.j5P0OLPL027379@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:24:21 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: , now FEST To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:13:58 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >> >>web.syr.edu/~clostran/Fest.htm >> >> >>clo > > >What is the exact street name and number? > >Turn right at first stop light, onto Westcott St. Go through stop sign st >Harvard St, >and turn left in the next block (Victoria Pl). We are the fourth house past >the library >on the left, gray with blue and red trim: Somehow the translation stripped that line. Sorry! 121 Victoria Place clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 20:08:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P18Se5004323 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:08:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:08:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE15E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:08:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4180542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:08:28 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P18SG0004807 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:08:28 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:08:28 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:08:05 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: , now FEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can vouch for the accuracy of 16 - 24. Incidentally, do you know why Teall Ave becomes Columbus Ave? (steps 19-20) The answer is that it crosses Erie Boulevard. Erie Blvd is the old Erie Canal (filled in in 1927). There was no bridge across the canal at this point and the street north of the canal (Teall) and the street south of the canal (Columbus) though they are now the same street, retain their original names. That's Syracuse. BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 06/24/05 8:58 PM >>> 16: I-271 N becomes I-90 E (Portions toll). 307.3 miles Map 17: Merge onto I-690 E via EXIT 39 toward SYRACUSE. 11.0 miles Map 18: Take the TEALL AVE exit- EXIT 14. 0.1 miles Map 19: Turn RIGHT onto TEALL AVE. 0.2 miles Map 20: Stay STRAIGHT to go onto COLUMBUS AVE. 0.2 miles Map 21: Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto E GENESEE ST / NY-92. <0.1 miles Map 22: Turn RIGHT onto WESTCOTT ST. 0.3 miles Map 23: Turn LEFT onto VICTORIA PL. <0.1 miles Map 24: End at 121 Victoria Pl Syracuse, NY 13210-2651, US Map -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 20:23:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P1NWe5006408 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069AB75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:21:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4180850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:21:31 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P1LVxU007447 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:21:31 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625012130.JTUI8692.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:21:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625012130.VSJS13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:21:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42BCB197.3060508@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:21:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: , now FEST References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >I can vouch for the accuracy of 16 - 24. > > And I can vouch for the accuracy of 1-7. I am indeed impressed with Mapquest's intelligence. But then I don't plan on following those directions. I wish there was a way to tell Mapquest to give me the mileage by the other route -- leaving Jackson on I-20 east, then getting on I-59 in Meridian to Chattanooga, then I-75 to Knoxville, then I-81 from just east of Knoxville and the rest of the way. That's the route I'm probably going to take, then returning by the western route. Or maybe I should vice-versa it. I had planned at one point on spending a night with my friends in Lynchburg as I did when going to Acadiafest, but the winding mountain roads between I-81 and Lynchburg are a major pain and time-consumer. >Incidentally, do you know why Teall Ave becomes Columbus Ave? (steps >19-20) > >The answer is that it crosses Erie Boulevard. Erie Blvd is the old Erie >Canal (filled in in 1927). There was no bridge across the canal at this >point and the street north of the canal (Teall) and the street south of >the canal (Columbus) though they are now the same street, retain their >original names. That's Syracuse. > > Neat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 20:24:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P1NWe5006398 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069AB68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:10:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4180627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:10:54 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P1Ar2W005442 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:10:53 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625011053.JJZK1983.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:10:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625011053.IFPB8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:10:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42BCAF1B.7040507@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:10:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: , now FEST References: <200506250024.j5P0OLPL027379@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42BCAC19.4090104@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BCAC19.4090104@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You know, these times we live in are pretty amazing. My street is one block long -- a short block. There are five or six houses on this whole street. Iow, it is . Yet I entered my address into Mapquest's box, and it without even stopping to breathe squirted out the directions to clo's house in Syracuse. And what it said about what to do at this end is absolutely correct. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 20:24:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P1NWe5006399 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069AB74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:20:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4180605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:20:25 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5P1AONm005313 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:10:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 91837 invoked by uid 1003); 25 Jun 2005 01:10:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:10:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As I listen to The Shrublet blather on... Message-ID: <20050625011023.GA90606@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050624085227e93d0d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050624085227e93d0d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 10:52:36AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I keep thinking about a book review I read this morning, of "Sands of > Empire: Missionary Zeal, American Foreign Policy, and the Hazards of > Global Ambition" by Robert W. Merry. " > > The reviewer says, "Merry is an ardent foe of the neoconservative > foreign policy of George W. Bush, rooted as it is in utopian idea that > the world can be remade along American lines. He excoriates the > thinking that led to the invasion of Iraq, denigrating it as the > product of a "world outlook and political idealism that are alluring > [and] comforting [but also] false and highly dangerous." And he argues > that the Iraqi misadventure has exacerbated Muslim antipathy to > the West, not assuaged it." Come to your senses, folks. They are BAD PEOPLE. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 20:23:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P1NWe5006404 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069ACE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:58:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4180078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:58:04 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P0w3RC002296 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:58:03 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625005804.BAQN572.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:58:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625005803.WIQX4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:58:03 -0400 Message-ID: <42BCAC19.4090104@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:58:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: , now FEST References: <200506250024.j5P0OLPL027379@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506250024.j5P0OLPL027379@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yep. According to Mapquest, the western route is shorter: 1: Start out going NORTH on GREENWICH ST toward CAMBRIDGE ST. <0.1 miles Map 2: Turn LEFT onto CAMBRIDGE ST. <0.1 miles Map 3: Turn RIGHT onto CRANE BLVD. <0.1 miles Map 4: Turn RIGHT onto OLD CANTON RD. 0.5 miles Map 5: Turn RIGHT onto MEADOWBROOK RD. 0.1 miles Map 6: Turn LEFT onto FRONTAGE RD. 0.6 miles Map 7: Merge onto I-55 N via the ramp on the LEFT toward GRENADA. 196.6 miles Map 8: Merge onto I-240 E via EXIT 6A toward NASHVILLE. 13.7 miles Map 9: Merge onto I-40 E via EXIT 12C toward NASHVILLE. 196.9 miles Map 10: Merge onto I-65 N via EXIT 208B on the LEFT toward LOUISVILLE. 2.1 miles Map 11: Merge onto I-65 N via EXIT 86A on the LEFT toward CLARKSVILLE / LOUISVILLE. 165.5 miles Map 12: Merge onto I-264 E via EXIT 131-A. 11.3 miles Map 13: Merge onto I-71 N via EXIT 23A toward CINCINNATI. 198.7 miles Map 14: Merge onto I-71 N via EXIT 101A on the LEFT toward CLEVELAND. 112.6 miles Map 15: Merge onto I-271 N via EXIT 220 toward ERIE PA. 40.4 miles Map 16: I-271 N becomes I-90 E (Portions toll). 307.3 miles Map 17: Merge onto I-690 E via EXIT 39 toward SYRACUSE. 11.0 miles Map 18: Take the TEALL AVE exit- EXIT 14. 0.1 miles Map 19: Turn RIGHT onto TEALL AVE. 0.2 miles Map 20: Stay STRAIGHT to go onto COLUMBUS AVE. 0.2 miles Map 21: Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto E GENESEE ST / NY-92. <0.1 miles Map 22: Turn RIGHT onto WESTCOTT ST. 0.3 miles Map 23: Turn LEFT onto VICTORIA PL. <0.1 miles Map 24: End at 121 Victoria Pl Syracuse, NY 13210-2651, US Map Total Est. Time: 19 hours, 16 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1259.52 miles -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 20:24:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P1NWe5006402 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:23:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:24:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069ACD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:53:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4179904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:53:31 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P0rUJL001427 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:53:30 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625005331.YQW572.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:53:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625005330.WHQB4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:53:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42BCAB08.1040407@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:53:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: , now FEST [plus movie stars] References: <200506250024.j5P0OLPL027379@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506250024.j5P0OLPL027379@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >121 Victoria Place > > I just remember that I knew that -- or had found it via switchboard.com earlier when we were first talking about hotels. I remember that I did various Mapquest routings between hotels and that address. Now I'll try one from my address in Jackson to that address. Or maybe I should try one from my address to the Microtel. On a totally different subject: This is a good example of why I don't want to know about movie stars' lives. A little while ago I decided to turn on the since I hadn't had it on in weeks and was feeling guilty about never using it. So I sat on the floor and ate at the coffee table while watching CNN. I knew that Tom Cruise was the name of a movie star and possibly could have placed name with face. And I know that he is a person I've seen in movies. I could have handled seeing him again in movies if I hadn't watched CNN tonight. Now I know that whatever character he's playing in a movie will be interfered with when I watch the movie -- that I will say to myself, "Oh -- that's not Jeb Stoner [or whoever the movie character is]. That's that nut-case who was shrieking on tv about how he knows the history of psychiatry and thus knows it's a pseudo-science and that the man who was interviewing him knows zip. And I will think about Scientology when I see him. If the movie character goes to church, I will think, "Is this the Church of Scientology?" Etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 20:33:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P1Wse5007826 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:32:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:33:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069AD4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:32:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4181184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:32:53 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P1WrUY010027 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:32:53 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625013253.BXAE2145.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:32:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625013252.IJOW25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:32:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42BCB442.4020305@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:32:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cemeteries Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Not related to my upcoming trip at all, but I just started wondering about dead people in NYC, specifically Manhatten. And I found some interesting listings, including Central Park. But I'm wondering about the graves at Episcopal Church of the Transfiguration. They seem to be in filing cabinets or something: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1982947&CScnty=2008& -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 20:46:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P1k7e5009719 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:46:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:46:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069AB95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:36:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4181238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:36:06 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P1a5gw010841 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:36:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22979859 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:18:58 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.119.3.236]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:36:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:36:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <103461220.20050624193611@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: , now FEST In-Reply-To: <42BCB197.3060508@maynor.net> References: <42BCB197.3060508@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 234, in=83689, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/24/2005, 7:21 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I wish there was a way to tell Mapquest NM> to give me the NM> mileage by the other route -- leaving Jackson on NM> I-20 east, then getting NM> on I-59 in Meridian to Chattanooga, then I-75 to NM> Knoxville, then I-81 NM> from just east of Knoxville and the rest of the way. I've done that by simply asking it for the separate segments. A to B B to C etc Then totalling the times or miles. A touch extra work, but only a minute or two. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 21:10:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P2ARe5012744 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:10:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:10:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069ACD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:00:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4181866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:00:26 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P20Q2A015853 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:00:26 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625020025.VROI2460.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:00:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625020025.WCRS5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:00:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:00:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Screw It Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I said that we could play with my new camera in Syracuse, but maybe we can't. It absolutely refuses to work with rechargeable batteries, and I do not intend to keep buying non-rechargeables every few days. I think I mentioned earlier that it would not work with the recharged batteries that I use in my old camera. When the batteries that came in the new camera died, I replaced them with the newly charged batteries I use with my old camera. Wouldn't work. So I put those newly charged batteries in the old camera, where they worked fine and are still working fine, and I put some non-rechargeables in the new camera. Ok, so I went to Best Buy last week to buy some more cards (since the ones that had been on sale at Circuit City were no longer on sale), and I told the salesperson about my experience with the batteries. He said the batteries were probably too old to work in the new camera. So I bought eight new rechargeable batteries, along with a new battery-charger (since the old one takes about 36 hours to charge -- the new one I bought takes 30 minutes). Late this afternoon I decided to take some pictures of my tomatoes, and the non-rechargeable batteries in the new camera died. So I threw them away and put in some of the new rechargeable batteries. Didn't work. I got the "change batteries" message. I decided that maybe these new batteries were dead from shelf life and needed to be charged before they'd work. So I put them in the new charger and charged them. But when I put the newly recharged batteries in the camera, I got the "change batteries" message. They won't work at all. So does this fucking camera demand non-rechargeable batteries to work?? What a bummer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 21:39:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P2d7e5017019 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:39:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:39:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069AD39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:37:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4182814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:37:59 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P2bxKe024320 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:37:59 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625023759.PNVW2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:37:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625023758.QOUI11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:37:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42BCC384.7080809@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:37:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <10810414305.20050624201911@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <10810414305.20050624201911@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Assuming you use AA batteries, get over to Costco and you can buy a >pack of 32 for around ten to twelve bucks. > > I have no idea where the nearest Costco is. I'm guessing that would be a bit of a journey. But I've never heard of a digital camera that didn't allow rechargeable batteries. That is mega weird. And even at 32 for $10-$12 mega expensive. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 21:39:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P2d7e5017016 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:39:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:39:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069AD17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:19:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4182416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:19:05 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P2J4Ag019931 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:19:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22981718 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:01:58 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.119.3.236]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:19:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:19:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <10810414305.20050624201911@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 234, in=83696, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/24/2005, 8:00 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> It absolutely refuses to work with NM> rechargeable batteries, and I NM> do not intend to keep buying non-rechargeables every NM> few days. Assuming you use AA batteries, get over to Costco and you can buy a pack of 32 for around ten to twelve bucks. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 21:39:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P2d7e5017017 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:39:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:39:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069ADC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:20:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4182435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:20:01 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P2K0Re020102 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:20:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005062502195901400m9oh9e>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:20:00 +0000 Message-ID: <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:19:57 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > So does this fucking camera demand non-rechargeable batteries to work?? No, it is also supposed to work with NiMH rechargable batteries (and since they're higher capacity than alkalines, actually get more shots out of them). The manual mentions specifically Canon brand NB-2AH NiMH AA batteries, but the specs on those batteries are the same as any other brand NiMH batteries, 1.2 volts nominal, 2150-2300 mAH. I use Chinese off-brand NiMH AA's from Fry's in my Canon S1 IS, and have had no problems with them. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 21:39:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P2d7e5017018 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:39:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:39:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069AD24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:24:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4182570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:24:50 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P2OnED021045 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:24:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005062502244701500bog0he>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:24:48 +0000 Message-ID: <42BCC06E.1070902@istori.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:24:46 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is Karl on drugs References: <8ddfc8a705062415433b982cfd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062415433b982cfd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen writes, > So if "conservatives" want fewer regulations and effective government > programs and to curb the size of government, why are there more > regulations, ineffective government programs, and more government? It was a marketing pitch, not a statement of fact. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 21:40:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P2ere5017235 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:40:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:40:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069ADED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:40:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4182855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:40:47 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P2eluC024886 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:40:47 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625024047.PPLP2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:40:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625024047.QPNJ11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:40:47 -0400 Message-ID: <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:40:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > No, it is also supposed to work with NiMH rechargable batteries (and The batteries it refuses to accept say NiMH on their sides. > The manual mentions specifically Canon brand NB-2AH NiMH AA batteries, > but the specs on those batteries are the same as any other brand NiMH > batteries, 1.2 volts nominal, 2150-2300 mAH. These are Duracell AA DC1500 NIMH 1.2V 2300mAh. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 22:11:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P3Bee5021119 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:11:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:11:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069AD5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:51:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4183168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:51:38 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P2pc9K027105 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:51:38 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.135]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625025138.WNKX2460.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:51:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.135]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625025138.WNWR5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:51:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:51:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Costco Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How tacky that its website's locater won't let you check beyond 50 miles. So all I know is that isn't one within 50 miles of here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 24 23:23:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P4Mve5030844 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:22:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:23:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE1AB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 0:22:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4190665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:22:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P45Ck0011847 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:05:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so20975nzc for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.19 with SMTP id n19mr2842981nza; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:05:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IAo4JqUK5JB9EdyqdRNkOO6YZ8bVA6pA7/EhIZq/ttgRM8i16SzmTxVYpSa9UQsX21dutq6gVCe8XUDsC3UAmAlf6+0dQu7OCnqwIt6CWKmF5bJ1+K5BTvS0qE9RzIEzTiz62/eJk7fwd4HjyHp2QD1Upd+05Yq6H9jBaXzedts= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:05:03 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Costco In-Reply-To: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5P45Ck0011848 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > How tacky that its website's locater won't let you check beyond 50 > miles. So all I know is that isn't one within 50 miles of here. Hoover AL or southeastern Memphis TN, your choice. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 00:55:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P5tce5010019 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:55:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:55:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE1C5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 1:55:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4194491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:55:37 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P5taUY005639 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:55:37 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5P5tZRS000462 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:55:36 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Dumb Legal Question In-Reply-To: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Am I correct in assuming that the laws against homicide are state laws? Yes. > If all states already had laws against homicide, would passing a federal > anti-lynching law be just a symbolic gesture, or would it have practical > value -- as in meaning that arrests and trials would be different -- > would have been better in the lynching cases of that era? Possibly. But in this context even symbolic gestures have some value. It has been demonstrated that the attitude of leaders toward disfavored minority groups is critical in restraining or unleashing violence against those groups. The attitude of judges and prosecutors is obviously directly relevant, but business leaders, clergy, school board members, etc., and even Congress, obviously all have some impact. Periods of violent attacks against minorities (e.g. pogroms, race riots) have been ushered in when political leaders "winked at" small instances of violence against the disliked group, and have been brought to a close when leaders publicized their strong disapproval. That's why there was such widespread alarm in the legal community when someone in Congress made a comment that violence against judges was an understandable reaction to their political views. Had this sentiment been echoed more widely by others, we would certainly have seen more attacks. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 02:25:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5P7PLe5020386 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:25:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:25:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B2F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 3:25:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4196942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:25:21 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5P7PKhX014693 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:25:20 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5P7PITs003377 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:25:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:25:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Unsolicited praise from strangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://politicalgraveyard.com/email.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:11:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PCB1e5025017 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:11:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:11:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE1F21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:11:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4200422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:11:01 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PCB1f7025827 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:11:01 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE1F6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:11:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200506251211.j5PCB1f7025827@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:11:01 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: , now FEST To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:58:01 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Yep. According to Mapquest, the western route is shorter: That would be my guess, too. 81 does some odd things. I-90 is the Thruway (toll road) through all of New York., btw. In a rare instance of cooperation, the Mapquest tallies with my directions. > >> 19: Turn RIGHT onto TEALL AVE. 0.2 miles Map > > 20: Stay STRAIGHT to go onto COLUMBUS AVE. 0.2 miles Map > > 21: Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto E GENESEE ST / NY-92. <0.1 miles Map > > 22: Turn RIGHT onto WESTCOTT ST. 0.3 miles Map > > 23: Turn LEFT onto VICTORIA PL. <0.1 miles Map > > 24: End at 121 Victoria Pl >Syracuse, NY 13210-2651, US Map > clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:24:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PCOBe5026409 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:24:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:24:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B463@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:24:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4200572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:24:10 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PCOAjs026612 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:24:10 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625122410.LXEX885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:24:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625122409.WKYJ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:24:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD4CE7.40801@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:24:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Costco References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>How tacky that its website's locater won't let you check beyond 50 >>miles. So all I know is that isn't one within 50 miles of here. >> >> >Hoover AL or southeastern Memphis TN, your choice. > > Thanks. It's been years since I last drove from Jackson to either Memphis or Birmingham, so I don't know off the top of my head exactly how long it would be. But I do know that a battery-procurement mission to either of those cities would require a long day of driving. I was just curious, though, about where the nearest Costco might be. I am not seriously considering feeding non-chargeable batteries to the camera. Even very cheap ones would eat up tons of money a month if I continue to take cemetery pictures. I'll try finding some Canon batteries since that's what the manual says the camera requires (if they're NiMH) -- as Pete mentioned last night and as my reading of the manual also noted. If they don't work, I'll limit my use of the camera to only rare occasions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:29:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PCTle5026844 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:29:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:29:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B35D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:29:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4200640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:29:47 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PCTlI7026954 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:29:47 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625122947.MALH885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:29:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625122946.WLWQ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:29:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD4E38.10905@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:29:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Dumb Legal Question References: <42BC0FCE.3060206@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > But in this context even symbolic gestures have some value. It has been > demonstrated that the attitude of leaders toward disfavored minority > groups is critical in restraining or unleashing violence against those > groups. I wasn't questioning the value -- was just curious about the nitty-gritty of it. I can understand, though not agree with, somebody's argument that there's no point in taking up time passing symbolic resolutions. But Thad Cochran made a big mistake in coming up with that lame excuse (not precisely the above -- I think his main point was that the current Senators for the most part were not and thus had nothing to apologize for). His record belies his excuse since he has been a proponent of other symbolic gestures. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:32:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PCWTe5027065 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:32:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:32:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B35E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:32:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4200658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:32:29 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PCWTV5027108 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:32:29 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625123229.MCAG885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:32:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625123228.WMIK11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:32:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD4EDA.3060209@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:32:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Unsolicited praise from strangers References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > http://politicalgraveyard.com/email.html Neat! And the thank-you from somebody who referred to himself as an obscure candidate made me wonder whether Bootie Hunt is represented in the PG. I should do a search. He died a few years ago, and I'm guessing he's probably buried somewhere in Oktibbeha County, though I don't know. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:34:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PCYhe5027255 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:34:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:34:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE1F41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:34:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4200699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:34:42 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PCYgnv027257 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:34:42 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23927110 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:46:06 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.119.3.236]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:35:11 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:34:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=100188, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/24/2005, 8:19 PM, Peter Kaminski wrote: PK> I use Chinese off-brand NiMH AA's from Fry's in my PK> Canon S1 IS, and have PK> had no problems with them. I'm assuming that putting the batteries in the right way will make a significant difference. Some NiMH that I've used look enough different that a novice might put them in backwards. Could that be the case, Natalie? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:35:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PCZUe5027345 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:35:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:35:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B366@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:35:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4200774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:35:30 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PCZUlt027399 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:35:30 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625123530.MDSW885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:35:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625123529.WMUD11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:35:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD4F90.6090108@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:35:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Unsolicited praise from strangers References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Nope. Bootie is missing. I'll try to find out where he's buried. He may have simply been dumped into an unmarked hole somewhere. The next time I'm in Starkville, maybe I can ask his son, who works as a parking-ticket-writer for the campus police. He is often seen gallumphing around campus with his little ticket-writing pad. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:36:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PCaZe5027492 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:36:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:36:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B523@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:36:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4200807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:36:34 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PCaYQQ027485 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:36:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23927143 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:47:59 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.119.3.236]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:37:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:36:39 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <150357967.20050625063639@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BCC384.7080809@maynor.net> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <10810414305.20050624201911@gailndan.com> <42BCC384.7080809@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=100189, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/24/2005, 8:37 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I have no idea where the nearest Costco is. I'm NM> guessing that would be NM> a bit of a journey. Costco, Walmart, Sams Club, the same principle applies...including at any similar regional chains you might have. NM> But I've never heard of a NM> digital camera that NM> didn't allow rechargeable batteries. That is mega NM> weird. And even at NM> 32 for $10-$12 mega expensive. See my later message on this. And Peter's. The camera DOES allow rechargeables. Either they're not getting charged, or they're in wrong....or were put in charger wrong....or something. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:38:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PCcHe5027652 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:38:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:38:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B524@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:38:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4200830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:38:17 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PCcGAm027581 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:38:16 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625123817.MFSP885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:38:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625123816.WNFY11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:38:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD5036.3070808@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:38:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: , now FEST References: <200506251211.j5PCB1f7025827@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506251211.j5PCB1f7025827@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Yep. According to Mapquest, the western route is shorter: >> >> > >That would be my guess, too. 81 does some odd things. > The main -- or thing I hadn't noticed before -- is that it curves to the left in NY -- that Syracuse is farther to the than I'd realized. So going that route would mean going farther east than is appropriate (though I will probably still do that since I do love parts of I-81 -- mainly in Virginia). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:40:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PCeAe5027893 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:40:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:40:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B36D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:40:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4200883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:40:10 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PCeAPg027782 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:40:10 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625124009.MGWX885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:40:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625124009.WNNT11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:40:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD50A7.8040700@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:40:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >I'm assuming that putting the batteries in the right way will make a >significant difference. Some NiMH that I've used look enough >different that a novice might put them in backwards. Could that be >the case, Natalie? > > Certainly it could be, but I don't find these batteries strange looking at all. Like all other batteries I've used, the + end is the end with a little hump. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 07:42:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PCgSe5028042 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:42:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:42:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B52B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:42:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4200946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:42:27 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PCgRP8027955 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:42:27 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625124227.MITS885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:42:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625124227.WNXO11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:42:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD5131.3050408@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:42:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <10810414305.20050624201911@gailndan.com> <42BCC384.7080809@maynor.net> <150357967.20050625063639@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <150357967.20050625063639@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > Either they're not getting charged, or they're in >wrong....or were put in charger wrong....or something. > > If they weren't charged, they would presumably not work in my old camera either. But they do. And they're put in the camera exactly like the non-rechargeables that do work were put in the camera. So that leaves "something" as the answer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:03:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PD3pe5030313 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:03:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:03:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B561@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 9:03:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4201504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:03:51 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PD3oaj031409 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:03:51 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 68303E3AD9B92 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:03:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000501c57986$4cec2490$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <42BD4CE7.40801@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Costco Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:03:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >> > Thanks. It's been years since I last drove from Jackson to either > Memphis or Birmingham, > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Speaking of Birmingham, any of you familiar with that city? My grandson and his wife and kids have just moved there. It's a city and a state that I have had absolutely no experience with. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:05:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PD5ge5030461 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:05:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:05:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B4B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 9:05:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4201574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:05:42 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PD5f5X031612 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:05:41 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73090796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:05:40 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:07:15 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Need Compact Flash Card? In-Reply-To: References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10311745&adid=17315&dcaid=17315&adid=17662 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:43:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PDhme5001756 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:43:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:43:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B59B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 9:43:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4202335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:43:47 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PDhlO7001599 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:43:47 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625134347.VQEM2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:43:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625134346.TSYW11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:43:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD5F91.7040502@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:43:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Costco [ATT: LYNNE] References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <42BD4CE7.40801@maynor.net> <000501c57986$4cec2490$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000501c57986$4cec2490$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Speaking of Birmingham, any of you familiar with > that city? I would guess that Lynne is by far the best Wordsler to respond. Sylacauga is not all that far from Birmingham. I have driven through Birmingham many, many times (literally THROUGH since it was one of the last cities in the universe to have interstates completed -- and actually I still usually drive through it instead of around it since I find it quicker to take the interstate through it -- but in the olden days the interstate stopped before Bessemer, dumping you onto the city streets for about an hour and a half before resuming on the other side of Bham). I have spent a few nights there over the years, once or twice when my brother was doing his residency there, once at a linguistics meeting, and maybe some other time I'm forgetting. And I have gone once to the public library there -- not all that long ago -- within the past year and a half or so. But I don't really the city. > My grandson and his wife and kids have just moved > there. It's a city and a state that I have had absolutely > no experience with. My image of Birmingham used to be negative -- thinking of it as full of industrial pollution. My ex-husband and I used to roll up the car windows when driving through Bham, laughing about the need to block out the nastiness. But that was mainly a joke. I know Bham has some pretty areas, and I really don't think all that industrial stuff is a big problem. My niece lives there, btw, and seems to like it. As for Alabama as a whole, it is a state with an interesting amount of geographical diversity, from the small mountains in the north to the pretty beaches on the coast. And I feel sure that there's a good bit of diversity among the population also. I think I might have mentioned before that one thing my RRB and I agree on is that Alabama rednecks are redneckier than Mississippi rednecks. I know that's a tacky, judgmental thing to say. And don't ask me to explain exactly what I mean because I can't. It's just a I've had and discovered that my RRB also has. Oh -- Alabama also is home to an outstanding Shakespeare company. It used to be in Anniston but moved to Montgomery a number of years ago: The Alabama Shakespeare Festival. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:47:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PDlFe5002054 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:47:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:47:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE2058@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 9:47:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4202418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:47:14 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PDlEmu001881 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:47:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23929102 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:58:38 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.119.3.236]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:47:41 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:47:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7110286671.20050625074719@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BD50A7.8040700@maynor.net> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> <42BD50A7.8040700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=100193, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 6:40 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Certainly it could be, but I don't find these NM> batteries strange looking NM> at all. Like all other batteries I've used, the + NM> end is the end with a NM> little hump. Well, assuming they're going in the right way, same way as the others, you've either got bad batteries or a bad charger. Do you have some other device that uses the same kind of batteries? A little flashlight, an old CD player, or anything else? If so, try them in it. I'm betting the batteries are bad....but could be the charger too. And assume that when they go in charger they are going in the right way and the little light comes on to show they're charging? (well, all the chargers I've seen have such a light...and when it goes out they're charged) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:47:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PDlce5002066 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:47:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:47:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B5A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 9:47:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4202432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:47:38 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PDlcdY001943 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:47:38 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8ED6330C29128 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:47:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01c5798c$714692c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <42BD4CE7.40801@maynor.net> <000501c57986$4cec2490$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BD5F91.7040502@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Costco [ATT: LYNNE] Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:47:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie . . thanks for your comments about Birmingham. I know I will be visiting there . . . but not in the summer! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:49:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PDnOe5002219 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:49:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:49:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B5A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 9:49:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4202461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:49:24 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PDnNdO002057 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:49:23 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23929181 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:00:49 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.119.3.236]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:49:52 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:49:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Need Compact Flash Card? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=100194, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 7:07 AM, Betty Clark wrote: BC> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10311745&adid=17315&dcaid=17315&adid=17662 Good price, but not a whole lot lower than at local Costco or Best Buy. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:51:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PDpTe5002467 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:51:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:51:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B4F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 9:51:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4202515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:51:22 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PDpMx1002226 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:51:22 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23929232 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:02:48 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.119.3.236]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:51:51 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:51:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1738225375.20050625075129@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Costco [ATT: LYNNE] In-Reply-To: <42BD5F91.7040502@maynor.net> References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <42BD4CE7.40801@maynor.net> <000501c57986$4cec2490$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BD5F91.7040502@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=100195, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 7:43 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> My image of Birmingham used to be negative -- NM> thinking of it as full of NM> industrial pollution. I'd thought that a lot of the iron and steel industry had shut down in recent decade or two, and that some of it was being gentrified, torn down, urban renewaled, whatever. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:55:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PDtKe5002793 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:55:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:55:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B5AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 9:55:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4202557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:55:20 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PDtKwj002547 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:55:20 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73100209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:55:19 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625065315.0297b540@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:56:54 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Birmingham In-Reply-To: <000c01c5798c$714692c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <42BD4CE7.40801@maynor.net> <000501c57986$4cec2490$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BD5F91.7040502@maynor.net> <000c01c5798c$714692c0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:47 AM 6/25/2005, you wrote: >Natalie . . thanks for your comments >about Birmingham. I know I will be >visiting there . . . but not in the summer! > > - D. M. I went to a conference there once for a few days and really enjoyed it. Good museums, good food, friendly people. It's where I saw Michelle Kwan skate! What a treat that was. At a conference though you only see the best highlights. I think Amy is familiar and she gave me some hints. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 08:56:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PDu3e5002909 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:56:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:56:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B3F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 9:56:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4202573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:56:02 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PDu2V2002603 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:56:02 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73099331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:56:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625065712.029859e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:57:36 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Need Compact Flash Card? In-Reply-To: <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:49 AM 6/25/2005, you wrote: >6/25/2005, 7:07 AM, Betty Clark wrote: > >BC> >http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10311745&adid=17315&dcaid=17315&adid=17662 > >Good price, but not a whole lot lower than at local Costco or Best >Buy. > >dan Well, if there isn't one of those places within 50 miles. . . . . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:40:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PEeBe5007332 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B550@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:31:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4203271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:31:47 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PEVkWd005227 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:31:46 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625143146.OAIH26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:31:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625143146.DRPL29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:31:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD6AD0.6060800@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:31:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Costco [ATT: LYNNE] References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <42BD4CE7.40801@maynor.net> <000501c57986$4cec2490$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BD5F91.7040502@maynor.net> <1738225375.20050625075129@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1738225375.20050625075129@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> My image of Birmingham used to be negative -- >NM> thinking of it as full of >NM> industrial pollution. > >I'd thought that a lot of the iron and steel industry had shut down in >recent decade or two, and that some of it was being gentrified, torn >down, urban renewaled, whatever. > > Probably. My "used to" above is referring to the early '70s. And even then it was not necessarily an accurate assessment. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:40:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PEeBe5007328 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B44C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:34:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4203335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:34:00 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PEXxKZ005405 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:33:59 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73107410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:33:59 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625073425.0297f990@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:35:33 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BD6A70.1090402@maynor.net> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> <42BD50A7.8040700@maynor.net> <7110286671.20050625074719@gailndan.com> <42BD6A70.1090402@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:30 AM 6/25/2005, you wrote: >Dan Lester wrote: > >>Well, assuming they're going in the right way, same way as the others, >>you've either got bad batteries or a bad charger. >> >That would mean three sets of bad batteries and two different bad >chargers. And again I wonder why the bad batteries charged in the bad >chargers work fine in my old camera. This really is curious. Larry's dad is having the same problem. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:40:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PEeBe5007331 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B60C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:35:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4203402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:35:35 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PEZYuQ005606 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:35:35 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <200506251435330130030q86e>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:35:34 +0000 Message-ID: <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:35:31 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > The batteries it refuses to accept say NiMH on their sides. > These are Duracell AA DC1500 NIMH 1.2V 2300mAh. Weird and weird. I would take the batteries and both cameras to a Radio Shack, and say something like, "Could you try one of your battery tester thingies on these batteries? They work in one camera, but not the other, and I can't figure out why." Unfortunately, the Circuit City satisfaction guaranteed return policy is 14 days for digital cameras, and I think you're just over that. Not by much, though -- you might still try it, or at least have them try to demonstrate that the camera can use NiMH batteries like it's supposed to. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:40:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PEeBe5007326 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B545@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:30:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4203119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:30:11 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PEUBdV004961 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:30:11 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625143011.NZEF26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:30:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625143010.DRBJ29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:30:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD6A70.1090402@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:30:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> <42BD50A7.8040700@maynor.net> <7110286671.20050625074719@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <7110286671.20050625074719@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Well, assuming they're going in the right way, same way as the others, >you've either got bad batteries or a bad charger. > > That would mean three sets of bad batteries and two different bad chargers. And again I wonder why the bad batteries charged in the bad chargers work fine in my old camera. >Do you have some other device that uses the same kind of batteries? A >little flashlight, an old CD player, or anything else? If so, try >them in it. I'm betting the batteries are bad....but could be the >charger too. And assume that when they go in charger they are going >in the right way and the little light comes on to show they're >charging? (well, all the chargers I've seen have such a light...and >when it goes out they're charged) > > Yes. Both chargers have little lights that come on. And yes, the batteries work fine in the old camera, as I said originally. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 09:58:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PEwAe5009561 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:58:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:58:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B46B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:48:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4203756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:48:09 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PEm9cK006635 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:48:09 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so101565wra for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.107.9 with SMTP id f9mr2481916wrc; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:48:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SCQPAx+xCYaeTqkmaPeyv3tym/JcpMqBqlqUbk1CKoS5fGB2j8yTeku0A0dAPJc2znpqKPn0pOfdZBYFV36/URID7mAKzAPf9tSeF11d7TabdMWaKikvIbjgbrfJiBephugFqbgTnbYEeG7f+4QbDk0o7fuPGnLgdE6sEcxQ6R4= Message-ID: <8865866a050625074818e22ff0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:48:09 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: experimenting with e-bay Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5PEm9cK006636 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have actually taken the plunge. I have bid on something, as a test and more importantly, I have something for sale. I have some stuff that I just don't think will sell well at auction here in Luleå, so I thought I'd give e-bay a test. We'll see what happens. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 10:13:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PFDbe5011149 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:13:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:13:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B58B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:03:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4204080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:03:36 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PF3aTp007769 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:03:36 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 22999894 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:46:36 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.119.3.236]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:04:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:03:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1444242256.20050625090340@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Need Compact Flash Card? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625065712.029859e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625065712.029859e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 235, in=83748, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 7:57 AM, Betty Clark wrote: BC> Well, if there isn't one of those places within 50 BC> miles. . . . . Well, of course. And that's the case indeed with Natalie if she needs more CF cards. But I've bought from buy.com before, and they're ok, honest, etc. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 10:13:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PFDbe5011150 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:13:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:13:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B48A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:06:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4204174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:06:21 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PF6KmA007998 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:06:20 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23000014 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:49:23 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.119.3.236]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:06:49 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:06:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5010531005.20050625090627@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BD6A70.1090402@maynor.net> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> <42BD50A7.8040700@maynor.net> <7110286671.20050625074719@gailndan.com> <42BD6A70.1090402@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 235, in=83749, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 8:30 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Yes. Both chargers have little lights that come on. NM> And yes, the NM> batteries work fine in the old camera, as I said NM> originally. Well, I'd get myself and the camera back to the place you bought it and turn it over to them as a problem....either fix it or replace it, since there must be some defect in the camera....and if there is some weirdness about using your batteries in the camera, they can show you how to deal with it. You spent enough money on a good camera that you shouldn't let yourself get screwed if the damn thing doesn't work like it should. We've helped you sort out a bunch of the issues (mostly by RTFM for you, some by our experience), so don't let them screw you. For someone who is worried about the cost of non-rechargable batteries, you surely ought to worry about the cost of a defective piece of equipment and get them to sort it out. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 10:13:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PFDbe5011151 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:13:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:13:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B5B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:11:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4204509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:11:35 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PFBYwG008516 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:11:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23932385 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:23:01 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.119.3.236]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:12:04 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:11:41 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <377763163.20050625091141@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: experimenting with e-bay In-Reply-To: <8865866a050625074818e22ff0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8865866a050625074818e22ff0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=100211, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 8:48 AM, Marcia Franzen wrote: MF> I have actually taken the plunge. I have bid on MF> something, as a test MF> and more importantly, I have something for sale. Good luck. As you probably know, we bought our latest Corvette on ebay a year ago, and it has been great. And we just bought this.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5207847619 It arrived Thursday just as described.....and now to invest in getting it shadowboxed (we think) with the pictures and badge. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 10:24:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PFOie5012464 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:24:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:24:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B4C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:24:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4204854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:24:44 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PFOikr009380 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:24:44 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73116676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:24:43 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625082458.029bf130@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:26:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: experimenting with e-bay In-Reply-To: <8865866a050625074818e22ff0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8865866a050625074818e22ff0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5PFOie5012464 At 07:48 AM 6/25/2005, you wrote: >I have actually taken the plunge. I have bid on something, as a test >and more importantly, I have something for sale. I have some stuff >that I just don't think will sell well at auction here in Luleå, so I >thought I'd give e-bay a test. We'll see what happens. > >Marcia Me, too! I just received a spare battery for my laptop and it's working perfectly. I haven't tried selling anything. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 10:41:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PFf6e5014774 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:41:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:41:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B5FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:41:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4205357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:41:06 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PFf6Uc010981 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:41:06 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE21C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:41:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200506251541.j5PFf6Uc010981@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:41:06 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: , now FEST To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:38:14 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>That would be my guess, too. 81 does some odd things. >> >The main -- or thing I hadn't noticed before -- is that it >curves to the left in NY -- that Syracuse is farther to the than >I'd realized. So going that route would mean going farther east than is >appropriate (though I will probably still do that since I do love parts >of I-81 -- mainly in Virginia). > And Skyline Drive is really neat if you have the time! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 10:45:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PFjLe5015264 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:45:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:45:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B60A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:45:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4205528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:45:21 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PFjKLN011596 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:45:21 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050625154517013002us6ae>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:45:18 +0000 Message-ID: <42BD7C08.3080401@istori.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:45:12 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski writes, > I would take the batteries and both cameras to a Radio Shack, I should mention that my hope would be that a voltmeter would be tried, not just a battery tester. There's also Canon support: 800-828-4040 or http://tinyurl.com/cytxa Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:16:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGG3e5019047 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:16:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:16:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE223C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:10:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4206398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:10:36 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGAa9X013980 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:10:36 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625161036.QFVS26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:10:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625161035.EWPE29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:10:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD81FA.6030205@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:10:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> <42BD50A7.8040700@maynor.net> <7110286671.20050625074719@gailndan.com> <42BD6A70.1090402@maynor.net> <5010531005.20050625090627@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <5010531005.20050625090627@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Well, I'd get myself and the camera back to the place you bought it >and turn it over to them as a problem....either fix it or replace it, >since there must be some defect in the camera....and if there is some >weirdness about using your batteries in the camera, they can show you >how to deal with it. > > This goes back to the question of whether the local store would deal with the problem. I have not found the CC employees very helpful in answering questions -- and I bought the camera from their national website. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:16:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGG3e5019046 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:16:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:16:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE2236@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:06:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4206158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:06:02 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PG62eT013475 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:06:02 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625160602.QDLU26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:06:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625160602.EVGI29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:06:02 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:06:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > I would take the batteries and both cameras to a Radio Shack, and say > something like, "Could you try one of your battery tester thingies on > these batteries? They work in one camera, but not the other, and I > can't figure out why." Would they do that even though none of the products were bought there? > Unfortunately, the Circuit City satisfaction guaranteed return policy is > 14 days for digital cameras, and I think you're just over that. Not by > much, though -- you might still try it, or at least have them try to > demonstrate that the camera can use NiMH batteries like it's supposed to. But I ordered it from national Circuit City. Would the local store help? I just went there, btw -- also to Best Buy. I was going to buy the Canon batteries specified in the manual (though that would also mean buying a third charger since, according to the camera manual, Canon batteries can't be charged in anything other than a Canon charger). The person at CC had never heard of Canon batteries. The person at BB showed me the packaged Canon battery-charger that includes four Canon batteries. But I would have only one set of batteries unless I could order batteries from Canon separate from the charger. The BB person said they didn't sell Canon batteries except packaged with the charger but that maybe they could be ordered from Canon. Not finding the idea appealing of spending $60 on still another charger, I decided not to do that. I'll go back to the plan of simply using the new camera on , using alkaline batteries on those occasions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:18:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGISe5019412 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:18:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:18:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B52F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:06:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4206230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:06:29 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PG6TaR013562 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:06:29 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625160629.QDSA26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:06:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625160629.EVKN29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:06:29 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD8103.7040207@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:06:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> <42BD50A7.8040700@maynor.net> <7110286671.20050625074719@gailndan.com> <42BD6A70.1090402@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625073425.0297f990@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625073425.0297f990@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > This really is curious. Larry's dad is having the same problem. What kind of camera? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:18:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGISe5019409 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:18:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:18:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B64B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:11:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4206425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:11:42 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGBgDW014035 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:11:42 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625161142.QGOX26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:11:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625161142.EWXI29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:11:42 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD823C.1010907@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:11:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: , now FEST References: <200506251541.j5PFf6Uc010981@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506251541.j5PFf6Uc010981@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >And Skyline Drive is really neat if you have the time! > > Yes. I remember first being on it in childhood. Then later in early adulthood. I've skipped it on recent trips up that way simply because of lack of time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:18:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGISe5019411 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:18:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:18:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B63D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:08:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4206292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:08:52 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PG8pdv013730 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:08:51 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625160851.QEZM26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:08:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625160851.EWEC29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:08:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD8192.1080306@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Need Compact Flash Card? References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625065712.029859e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1444242256.20050625090340@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1444242256.20050625090340@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >BC> Well, if there isn't one of those places within 50 >BC> miles. . . . . > >Well, of course. And that's the case indeed with Natalie if she needs >more CF cards. But I've bought from buy.com before, and they're ok, >honest, etc. > > What's the case with Natalie? There are plenty of places to buy cards around here. I've bought four SD cards in the past couple of weeks. I've bought lots of things from buy.com through the years, btw, and have found the prices and efficiency just fine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:18:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGISe5019410 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:18:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:18:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B701@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:13:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4206502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:13:59 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGDxXH014231 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:13:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so51703nzf for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.32.11 with SMTP id f11mr2753554nzf; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:13:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gBcBlGlbL8wKNI7KEofQW6S6peMCQkrdbxnxxsGL9diwxvFZbfehCAlp+xd4pqgysT5zbTUjdx6tVuWdNW7x07Tr/bgu0+2VGjYtueKiySMJvmjOam5ibdA5ABTO3NtMMKMxmIJGYTzRDtZNJi25k4W5f5+FWYGtKqrqD721LSI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062509135a5706a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:13:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Need Compact Flash Card? In-Reply-To: <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5PGDxXH014232 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/25/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/25/2005, 7:07 AM, Betty Clark wrote: > > BC> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10311745&adid=17315&dcaid=17315&adid=17662 > > Good price, but not a whole lot lower than at local Costco or Best > Buy. But fewer crowds and the parking is easier. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:18:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGISe5019408 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:18:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:18:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B518@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:58:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4205944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:58:27 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PFwRMn012823 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:58:27 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE21CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:58:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200506251558.j5PFwRMn012823@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:58:27 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: additional Fest details To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU V's hosting instinct has surfaced, and we have additional Fest options in the offing: Friday 6-9 - Happy Hour for early arrivers burgers on the grill, and NY wine tasting. We'll provide transportation to-from hotel for imbibers. Sat am - we will definitely be going to the Farmer's Market in the am. Sat 3-6 - Happy Hour on our front porch for anyone who wants to continue/reprise NY wine-tasting. We'll be making reservations at a local Italian restaurant (CNY Italian is a real treat, don't miss Utica Greens!) probabilities - Giorgio's Utica Cousins, Rico's, or Santangelo's. Fest menu: grilled organic free-range steaks and chops courtesy "my sister's farm". green salad Hinerwadel's salt potatoes Columbus Bakery flatbread or fresh baked bread (possibly fried green tomatoes) timing dependent on BrP's plans for the Castle Monday brunch - if anyone's interested. This is a "camp breakfast", lots of meat, big omelet, homefries. Stir-fry possible if there are any vegetarians among the group. Q: does anyone have a Bloody Mary recipe? We have no cocktail expertise of any sort, so if you want mixed drinks, you'll have to plan on bartending. Kids beverages will include soda, milk, water, and juice, possibly goat's milk as well. PS for the Wilds: we have a 3rd floor "sound-proof" den for kids - some toys and crayons and so forth, TV w/ DVD if kids want to watch a movie. playground and public swimming pool at Thornden Park 6 blocks away clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:25:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGPTe5020020 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:25:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:25:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B66A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:25:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4206942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:25:29 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGPSqx015411 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:25:28 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625162528.EKBE2460.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:25:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625162528.ILJ5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:25:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD8576.5060509@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:25:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: additional Fest details References: <200506251558.j5PFwRMn012823@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506251558.j5PFwRMn012823@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm getting exciteder and exciteder! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:25:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGPee5020057 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:25:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:25:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B71C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:25:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4206959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:25:40 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGPd3o015437 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:25:39 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005062516253801400r3v14e>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:25:38 +0000 Message-ID: <42BD857D.4040501@istori.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:25:33 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > Would they do that even though none of the products were bought there? In my experience, yes. They want to be your "go-to" store for electronics, and therefore it behooves them to help you with little problems with electronics. If they're good enough, sooner or later you'll buy stuff from them. They've also got a historical marketing principle of being your "go-to" store for batteries, so taking a battery problem to them is particularly appropriate. There may also have the chance to sell you Radio Shack batteries after trying them in your camera and demonstrating that they work, although you shouldn't feel obliged to buy anything on any particular visit, even if they helped you out. > But I ordered it from national Circuit City. Would the local store > help? Yes. They even encourage it: http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/cat/-13414/edOid/105452/rpem/ccd/lookLearn.do > Not finding the idea > appealing of spending $60 on still another charger, I decided not to do > that. Yeah, I don't think Canon batteries would change things. And Canon doesn't require it, just recommends it. From their FAQ: "Available Battery Types and Precautions for AA Battery Compliant Cameras: AA-size alkaline batteries and AA size NiMH batteries can be used with this camera. We recommend that you use optional Canon NiMH batteries. Although it is possible to use AA-size nickel-cadmium batteries, performance is unreliable and battery capacity is less than when using NiMH batteries. Thus, their use is not recommended." > I'll go back to the plan of simply using the new camera on > , using alkaline batteries on those occasions. Seems seriously sub-optimal. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:27:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGRTe5020214 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:27:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:27:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE2242@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4206570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:28 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGHRxX014510 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:17:28 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5PGGra0016801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:16:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:17:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Birmingham Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Episcopal Cathedral has a great bookstore. (And great services too, but of course I will not mention those here.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:28:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGRre5020252 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:27:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:27:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B567@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4207040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:52 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGRqXh015621 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:52 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625162752.EKYK2460.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:52 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625162752.IXE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD8606.2090603@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:27:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: , now FEST References: <200506251541.j5PFf6Uc010981@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42BD823C.1010907@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BD823C.1010907@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >> And Skyline Drive is really neat if you have the time! > > Yes. I remember first being on it in childhood. Then later in early > adulthood. I've skipped it on recent trips up that way simply because > of lack of time. But I should add that I've been on parts of the BR Parkway in recent years, which is actually prettier, imho, than its northern continuation, SL Drive. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:32:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGW7e5020774 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:32:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:32:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B729@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:32:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4207138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:32:06 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGW6sr015959 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:32:06 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625163206.EMMO2460.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:32:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625163206.JRE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:32:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD8704.3040307@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:32:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> <42BD857D.4040501@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42BD857D.4040501@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: >> But I ordered it from national Circuit City. Would the local store >> help? > > Yes. They even encourage it: Then that seems like the wiser first step -- rather than going to Radio Shack. > Yeah, I don't think Canon batteries would change things. And Canon > doesn't require it, just recommends it. From their FAQ: > > "Available Battery Types and Precautions for AA Battery Compliant > Cameras: AA-size alkaline batteries and AA size NiMH batteries can be > used with this camera. We recommend that you use optional Canon NiMH > batteries. Although it is possible to use AA-size nickel-cadmium > batteries, performance is unreliable and battery capacity is less than > when using NiMH batteries. Thus, their use is not recommended." Interesting. The manual says Canon "only": "Use AA-size alkaline or Canon AA-size NiMH batteries (sold separately) only." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:44:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGhve5021963 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:43:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:44:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE22CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:43:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4207549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:43:57 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGhvVf016913 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:43:57 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:43:57 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:43:36 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: additional Fest details (SHIRTS) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The T-shirt can be seen at http://tinyurl.com/8am39 Prices are shown. Pick out the style, color, and size and email me prbarfoo@syr.edu or call 315 446 8127 with the information. I will place a bulk order on Tuesday morning for all shirts requested by then and they will be available at the Fest. You can order after that if you want, but it will have to be on your own from zazzle.com. BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 06/25/05 11:58 AM >>> V's hosting instinct has surfaced, and we have additional Fest options in the offing: Friday 6-9 - Happy Hour for early arrivers burgers on the grill, and NY wine tasting. We'll provide transportation to-from hotel for imbibers. Sat am - we will definitely be going to the Farmer's Market in the am. Sat 3-6 - Happy Hour on our front porch for anyone who wants to continue/reprise NY wine-tasting. We'll be making reservations at a local Italian restaurant (CNY Italian is a real treat, don't miss Utica Greens!) probabilities - Giorgio's Utica Cousins, Rico's, or Santangelo's. Fest menu: grilled organic free-range steaks and chops courtesy "my sister's farm". green salad Hinerwadel's salt potatoes Columbus Bakery flatbread or fresh baked bread (possibly fried green tomatoes) timing dependent on BrP's plans for the Castle Monday brunch - if anyone's interested. This is a "camp breakfast", lots of meat, big omelet, homefries. Stir-fry possible if there are any vegetarians among the group. Q: does anyone have a Bloody Mary recipe? We have no cocktail expertise of any sort, so if you want mixed drinks, you'll have to plan on bartending. Kids beverages will include soda, milk, water, and juice, possibly goat's milk as well. PS for the Wilds: we have a 3rd floor "sound-proof" den for kids - some toys and crayons and so forth, TV w/ DVD if kids want to watch a movie. playground and public swimming pool at Thornden Park 6 blocks away clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:48:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGlqe5022458 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:47:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:47:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B739@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:37:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4207342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:37:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGbp8g016333 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:37:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so52147nzb for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.13 with SMTP id d13mr2746016nzc; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:37:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tntwkmG+K2UAwiNRjyduX5OtV+0JAc+2eQotb3X6Y7gbqWIIrks9Nhe6hl7aqs0GMxgcqNrezkS6+ObQSL72bq8CC+04quMXHIEaj6y9ZAvp58GvxjsRHkV9fB7Wqfr6hotodnV//0gD1eHpe4xPzYWqLYIWCBq7bj5KQuq+5kg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062509371b551795@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:37:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BD857D.4040501@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> <42BD857D.4040501@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5PGbp8g016334 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/25/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > I'll go back to the plan of simply using the new camera on > > , using alkaline batteries on those occasions. > > Seems seriously sub-optimal. I need to remember this phrase. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:48:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGlqe5022460 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:47:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:48:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B690@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:40:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4207472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:40:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGeZ3L016725 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:40:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so55514nzf for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr1646164nzx; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:40:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gKKb7clQg83vlimAEOXRgJdtX8/k6jqSsw4oFiB0/6ZmU/L7Pk9YErgrjUY53ArxzUTJVHaXYGXzk5xgrJLr9RIlqxRt4Qe5XtGxmM4XmUuUW9IIt1BTp8FdbK2QUDiMc6VikQ9UBgEDswRzcAab6zWIjD7/w8O+F2kum0il8d4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062509408a12d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:40:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Need Compact Flash Card? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062509135a5706a3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062509135a5706a3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5PGea3L016726 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And I found a coupon for another 5% off, so I'm even happier. Thanks, Bettina. Karen On 6/25/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/25/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 6/25/2005, 7:07 AM, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > BC> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10311745&adid=17315&dcaid=17315&adid=17662 > > > > Good price, but not a whole lot lower than at local Costco or Best > > Buy. > > But fewer crowds and the parking is easier. > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 11:48:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PGmZe5022561 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:48:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:48:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B751@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:48:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4207696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:48:34 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGmYvE017305 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:48:34 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005062516483301200ha87ne>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:48:33 +0000 Message-ID: <42BD8ADC.6020101@istori.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:48:28 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> <42BD857D.4040501@istori.com> <42BD8704.3040307@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BD8704.3040307@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > Then that seems like the wiser first step -- rather than going to Radio > Shack. Yes, perhaps. But the Radio Shack folks are usually much more helpful, and they really don't mind. > Interesting. The manual says Canon "only": "Use AA-size alkaline or > Canon AA-size NiMH batteries (sold separately) only." It says different things in different places. It also says these: Polite: "Please use Canon AA-size NiMH batteries and charger recommended for use with these batteries." Generic: "Please use four AA-size alkaline batteries or separately sold nickel metal hydride (NiMH) batteries." Implicit: "Four AA-size rechargeable NiMH batteries (NB4-200) (sold separately)" Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:22:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PHMLe5026735 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:22:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:22:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B6A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:52:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4207763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:52:19 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGqJmB017533 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:52:19 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73133065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:52:18 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625095302.02786030@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:53:54 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BD8103.7040207@maynor.net> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> <42BD50A7.8040700@maynor.net> <7110286671.20050625074719@gailndan.com> <42BD6A70.1090402@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625073425.0297f990@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42BD8103.7040207@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:06 AM 6/25/2005, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>This really is curious. Larry's dad is having the same problem. > >What kind of camera? Cannon but it is exactly like mine and have excellent luck with rechargeable. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:22:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PHMLe5026737 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:22:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:22:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B6E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:21:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4208657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:21:30 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PHLUJN019846 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:21:30 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-158.gwi.net [216.195.166.158]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5PHLOTX005396; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:21:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050625131539.01c06df0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:21:21 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BD8704.3040307@maynor.net> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> <42BD857D.4040501@istori.com> <42BD8704.3040307@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:32 PM 6/25/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Interesting. The manual says Canon "only": "Use AA-size alkaline or >Canon AA-size NiMH batteries (sold separately) only." SOP. My camera documentation said the same thing. I have two LI-ion battery packs; one is the original-equipment Canon model, the other is a Lenmar (if I deciphered the artsy logo correctly). The Lenmar, which was (surprise, surprise!) cheaper, charges a bit more rapidly and does not to be fully discharged. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 12:22:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PHMLe5026738 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:22:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:22:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B6AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:55:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4207850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:55:17 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PGtGCv017696 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:55:17 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73133483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:55:16 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625095622.0277deb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:56:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Need Compact Flash Card? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062509408a12d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062509135a5706a3@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062509408a12d1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here is one for 10% off. http://www.buy.com/retail/coupon.asp?prid=85933331&adid=17662&adid=17662 At 09:40 AM 6/25/2005, you wrote: >And I found a coupon for another 5% off, so I'm even happier. Thanks, Bettina. > >Karen > >On 6/25/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/25/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > 6/25/2005, 7:07 AM, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > > BC> > http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10311745&adid=17315&dcaid=17315&adid=17662 > > > > > > Good price, but not a whole lot lower than at local Costco or Best > > > Buy. > > > > But fewer crowds and the parking is easier. > > > > Karen > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:12:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PICAe5031099 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:12:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:12:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B732@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:52:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4209608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:52:10 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PHqAk1022267 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:52:10 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625175210.URIE885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:52:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625175209.YYBZ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:52:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD99C7.5020004@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:52:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: YaY!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Problem solved. The CC young man made the batteries work. What he did that I hadn't been doing was turn it on and off about six times. And it sprang to life. When he turned it off and then on again, it said "change batteries" again, but he turned it off and back on, and it worked again. I asked him why it sometimes said "change batteries," and he said maybe the batteries weren't fully charged. I told him that they were straight from the charger. He said what I need to do is just turn it off and on until it comes on. So I brought it home and tried that, and it works: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/tomatoes.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:12:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PICAe5031096 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:12:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:12:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B74F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:58:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4210044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:58:57 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PHwvfF023330 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:58:57 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625175857.UVFS885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:58:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625175856.YZHC11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:58:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD9B5E.30900@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:58:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Screw It References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> <42BD857D.4040501@istori.com> <42BD8704.3040307@maynor.net> <42BD8ADC.6020101@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42BD8ADC.6020101@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > But the Radio Shack folks are usually much more helpful, and they really > don't mind. I dunno. My experience has been that Radio Shack employees vary enormously in knowledge and friendliness. They also vary in general -- in age and even race. (I say "even" because I don't think I've ever seen a white employee in Best Buy or Circuit City, but I have in Radio Shack -- not here, but in Starkville.) BB and CC employees are amazingly in age and appearance. They are all attractive, cleancut, African American, and young -- aged about 18-28, I'd say. And I don't think I've ever encountered a employee in BB or CC, though I've found the ones in BB friendlier and smarter than in CC. I've encountered some read duds through the years in RS, otoh. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:12:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PICAe5031101 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:12:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:12:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B7E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:54:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4209674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:54:25 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PHsPI2022398 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:54:25 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625175425.USMH885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:54:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625175425.YYMM11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:54:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD9A4F.5090401@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:54:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: additional Fest details (SHIRTS) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >The T-shirt can be seen at >http://tinyurl.com/8am39 > >Prices are shown. Pick out the style, color, and size and email me >prbarfoo@syr.edu or call 315 446 8127 with the information. I will >place a bulk order on Tuesday morning for all shirts requested by then >and they will be available at the Fest. You can order after that if you >want, but it will have to be on your own from zazzle.com. > > Fun! I'm going to ponder the options before ordering. Probably I'll do the standard long-sleeved t-shirt, but pondering will be fun (for a short time -- I don't mean for days). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:12:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PICAe5031104 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:12:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:12:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B810@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:03:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4210229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:03:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PI3UT4023713 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:03:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so56747nzb for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.49.2 with SMTP id w2mr2771387nzw; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:03:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fbgMjrqpW0xtvekOtPE6kx4ujMQa61fvPUyi2qFuJXF/XLuvowW7TyEEjFCWz//QIXrtS0bKZgLjmRtJ741zrgnhy89wmAOxEXczleTeAeBpA1334tq2FN2UGjNoZs2KAnY5c8p/CkxT8G92iXWIOpCYyGaqdDvSmPATE2CbRdQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050625110318829c4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:03:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Need Compact Flash Card? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625095622.0277deb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062509135a5706a3@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062509408a12d1@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625095622.0277deb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5PI3UT4023715 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Too late! Damn. On 6/25/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Here is one for 10% off. > > http://www.buy.com/retail/coupon.asp?prid=85933331&adid=17662&adid=17662 > > At 09:40 AM 6/25/2005, you wrote: > >And I found a coupon for another 5% off, so I'm even happier. Thanks, Bettina. > > > >Karen > > > >On 6/25/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > On 6/25/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > > > 6/25/2005, 7:07 AM, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > > > > BC> > > http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10311745&adid=17315&dcaid=17315&adid=17662 > > > > > > > > Good price, but not a whole lot lower than at local Costco or Best > > > > Buy. > > > > > > But fewer crowds and the parking is easier. > > > > > > Karen > > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:12:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PICAe5031103 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:12:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:12:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B799@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:09:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4210518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:09:59 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PI9wQS024351 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:09:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so57093nzb for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr2777901nzc; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:09:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=d5tbWjPK6I3g/aLyf3LDiZhEAUJdYAScPvv1DEbSvyNImnQ804EBYPwSXde/boEC43aHSwAaZZ0LrXxaHU3Qp355gLGXaHk0iQXelAUxkFP4Ah8Z7umjNeiG1erVF3I8wDyt8OmCu+aMyy1VFpNX+gxwMamoLwogo9Lo/ZCv9t4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062511092a5391e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:09:58 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: additional Fest details (SHIRTS) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5PI9xQS024352 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/25/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > The T-shirt can be seen at > http://tinyurl.com/8am39 > > Prices are shown. Pick out the style, color, and size and email me > prbarfoo@syr.edu or call 315 446 8127 with the information. I will > place a bulk order on Tuesday morning for all shirts requested by then > and they will be available at the Fest. The advantage of doing the bulk order w/ BrP is that there's a discount available depending on the number of shirts. 5% for 2-11 shirts, 10% for 12-49--it makes the prices a bit more reasonable. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:37:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PIbie5001655 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:37:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:37:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B6A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4210723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:43 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PIHh8t024814 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:43 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.163.183]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625181743.BWKZ2460.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.163.183]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050625181743.WDCQ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:43 -0400 Message-ID: <42BD9FC1.7080704@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:17:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Pictures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I took approximately the same tomato picture with the old camera (approximately because I was not totally scientific -- didn't mark the exact spot to stand in) and think I am beginning to see why the new camera is superior. Here the two pictures are side by side (or rather top by bottom). I don't notice the difference so much with the tomatoes themselves but can see it in the details in the background -- like the little pipe on the roof, the grill in the crawl-space window (or whatever you call that thing), etc: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/tomatoes.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 13:46:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PIk6e5002474 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:46:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:46:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B8B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:46:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4211655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:46:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PIk5Ou027192 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:46:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-158.gwi.net [216.195.166.158]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5PIk0Kn010080; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:46:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050625142344.01c07c68@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:24:42 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: YaY!!! In-Reply-To: <42BD99C7.5020004@maynor.net> References: <42BD99C7.5020004@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:52 PM 6/25/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Problem solved. The CC young man made the batteries work. What he did >that I hadn't been doing was turn it on and off about six times. And it >sprang to life. When he turned it off and then on again, it said >"change batteries" again, but he turned it off and back on, and it >worked again. I asked him why it sometimes said "change batteries," and >he said maybe the batteries weren't fully charged. I told him that they >were straight from the charger. He said what I need to do is just turn >it off and on until it comes on. So I brought it home and tried that, >and it works: I dunno. For what you paid for that camera, you ought to have one with a reliable switch... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:25:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PKPSe5013232 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:25:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:25:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B8D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:05:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4213817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:05:27 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PJtRTl032338 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:55:27 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5PJsman027950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:54:49 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:55:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: more from Ohama Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We have a resident masseuse - right here in our residence hall/dorm (she is a religious woman who calls herself a massage therapist), and I just had a 1-hour massage. Wonderful! This place has many good features - masseuse, daily (M-F) newspapers, ice cream on Wednesday nights, etc. Next (after I work on the paper that is due on Monday): a return visit to Wild Oats Market. Tomorrow: a dinner with some Jesuits and then "What the Bleep ...!?" Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 15:42:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PKghe5015490 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:42:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:42:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069B9D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:42:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4215014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:42:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PKggjD003516 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:42:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so68503nzf for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr1740754nzx; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K/Nuoz5FO9VwUwc8qToWp5Kv35XELoU/sYUuLrYHD1AdCe5NtWbkdaFeMmnKeevM4Zl6XxdDmCRTRWDj8F3LRiivIZiarERIgfhG237LGz80THZqhtmigA+G5++pH8qD6qIw19nqpbocS0+BTvl9N898pjvfFeNHHJlb+Q27GH4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506251342272cda7b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:42:42 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more from Ohama In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5PKghjD003520 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/25/05, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > We have a resident masseuse - right here in our residence hall/dorm (she > is a religious woman who calls herself a massage therapist), What do you mean "who calls herself"? Isn't that the normal term? It's usually RMT--Registered Massage Therapist, which means they are licensed to practice. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 16:13:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PLDOe5018648 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:13:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:13:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069B9BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:13:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4216503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:13:24 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5PLDNdk007209 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:13:24 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005062521132201400s96uee>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:13:23 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Screw It Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:13:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050625073425.0297f990@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This really is curious. Larry's dad is having the same problem. Shouldn't he be using at least lantern cells, and not piddly little AA's? I'd think they wouldn't have enough juice..... --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 18:45:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5PNjOe5005083 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:45:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:45:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B996@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:45:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4218805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:45:24 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5PNZN45019204 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:35:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 72420 invoked by uid 1003); 25 Jun 2005 23:35:23 -0000 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:35:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: , now FEST Message-ID: <20050625233523.GA65733@words-l.org> References: <200506250024.j5P0OLPL027379@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42BCAC19.4090104@maynor.net> <42BCAF1B.7040507@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BCAF1B.7040507@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 08:10:51PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > You know, these times we live in are pretty amazing. My street is one > block long -- a short block. There are five or six houses on this whole > street. Iow, it is . Yet I entered my address into Mapquest's > box, and it without even stopping to breathe squirted out the directions > to clo's house in Syracuse. And what it said about what to do at this > end is absolutely correct. Yeah, it's "pretty amazing" that what computers find easy and difficult is so very, very different from what people do ... And that people's "obvious" guesses at what parts of code to optimize often turn out wrong ... And that the most user-wowing parts of an application are so often the most trivial ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 19:12:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5Q0CUe5008725 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:12:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:12:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B9B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:02:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4219289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:02:29 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q02Sop021112 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:02:28 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.79.35]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626000228.IYAS2460.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:02:28 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.79.35]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626000228.CGW25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:02:28 -0400 Message-ID: <42BDF092.3050202@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:02:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Translation Help Sought Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Also transliteration of the names into the roman alphabet. Any help appreciated. http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/1.jpg http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/2.jpg http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/3.jpg http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/4.jpg I can figure out some of it but would rather have The Real Translation. The translator will be credited if I submit these to find-a-grave unless he or she prefers not to be. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 20:06:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5Q15ve5015795 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:05:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:06:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069BB17@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:00:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4220219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:00:01 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q0o1mE024897 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:50:01 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5Q0nQxi000693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:49:27 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: that masseuse Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: > We have a resident masseuse - right here in our residence hall/dorm (she > is a religious woman who calls herself a massage therapist), What do you mean "who calls herself"? Isn't that the normal term? It's usually RMT--Registered Massage Therapist, which means they are licensed to practice. I MEAN that she calls herself a massage therapist - not a religious (woman), a sister, a masseuse, or a Registered Massage Therapist. ? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 20:06:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5Q15ve5015794 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:05:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:06:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069B9F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:45:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4220112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:45:56 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q0jrf7024578 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:45:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE28DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:45:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200506260045.j5Q0jrf7024578@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:45:53 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: experimenting with e-bay To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5Q0jrf7024579 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:26:17 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >At 07:48 AM 6/25/2005, you wrote: >>I have actually taken the plunge. I have bid on something, as a test >>and more importantly, I have something for sale. I have some stuff >>that I just don't think will sell well at auction here in Luleå, so I >>thought I'd give e-bay a test. We'll see what happens. >> >>Marcia > >Me, too! I just received a spare battery for my laptop and it's working >perfectly. I haven't tried selling anything. > >Betty Ebay has hiked its selling fees, and now some people are going over to sites like overstock.com (click on auctions) and blubird.com (no e). There are several other alt auction/buy/sell sites now. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 21:09:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5Q29Qe5024250 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:09:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:09:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069BC5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:09:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4222398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:09:25 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q29PdU032088 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:09:25 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:09:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:08:56 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 06/25/05 8:02 PM >>> >Also transliteration of the names into the roman alphabet. Any help >appreciated. Here's transliteration: >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/1.jpg Alexandros I. Mistikos genitheis eis Samon Hellada te 23e Febrouaiou 1888 apebiosen eis Jackson Miss te 14e Noembriou 1955 >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/2.jpg Emanouel I Mistikos genitheis eis Samon Hellada Te 6e Sept 1892 apebiosen eis Jackson Miss Te 2e Matou 1945 >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/3.jpg Georgios Pouletsos Geneithe Choreion Paileta Kunourias Hellas Chronogeia te 17e Apriluou 1887 Apothane te 43 Septembriou 1935 >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/4.jpg Kuriakous D. Pouletsos egennethe 5 Iouniou 1883 en Peleta, Kunourias, Hellas apebiosen 6 Apriliou 1945 eis Jackson, Miss I think most of it is pretty obvious for general translation born in xxx xxx Greece died in Jackson the months are pretty obvious as well I'll leave more exact translation for the experts. I think it's interesting that there are two different words for "died" apebiosen I would guess has more of a "left life" sense and "apothane" more of an "entered death" sense but it's been 40 years since I studied the language so don't go by my word. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 21:50:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5Q2oSe5029769 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:50:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:50:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069BB25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:50:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4223855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:50:27 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q2oRSK004596 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:50:27 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.79.35]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626025027.FXUK885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:50:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.79.35]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626025026.CJNP11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:50:26 -0400 Message-ID: <42BE17F0.9030407@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:50:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you, BrP!!! This is all I need -- names and dates. When I submit them to Find-a-Grave, is it ok if I say this: Thanks to Paul Barfoot for transliteration of the names. or maybe this: Transliteration by Paul Barfoot. I think "transliteration" makes more sense in this case than "translation" since I was pretty sure that the first date would be the birth date and the second the death date -- and, as you say, the months are pretty obvious. Do you agree? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 22:10:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5Q3A9e5032707 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:10:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:10:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069BB8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:00:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4224793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:00:07 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q3061N005310 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:00:06 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE2ABC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:00:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200506260300.j5Q3061N005310@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:00:06 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: experimenting with e-bay To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Ebay has hiked its selling fees, and now some people are going over to sites >like overstock.com (click on auctions) and blubird.com (no e). > Uh ... make that www.bluJAY.com. Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jun 25 22:40:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5Q3eKe5004287 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:40:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:40:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069BE8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:40:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4229212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:40:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q3eJTn009238 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:40:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so81905nzc for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.15 with SMTP id p15mr1870960nza; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:40:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=FbLX+SMNtKyaxujp9LCvJWF5Wx724VH4lZ5yTusWxr7Zdqt8IfUfRTR0taAXzO9k9Glb9HsVdxHN1+MgxBy40GuV7KFa0H5rHSm+xpREhgQVBnIA9Vv4998Goz7/pevm18ep+1lWxjzFX7s1GHeS6Sd6UKV1movIp8w8PAySkOA= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:40:18 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Omaha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5Q3eJTn009239 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Damn it, for a minute it looked like the Gators had a chance. Then the first inning started, and it didn't look that way again until the bottom of the eighth. So anyway... what the heck was that UF pitcher doing? It looked like he was about a foot off the ground. Never seen that before. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 03:48:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5Q8m6e5003864 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:48:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:48:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069C3E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 4:48:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4239913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:48:06 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q8m5b4015231 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:48:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i20so185035wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.114.6 with SMTP id m6mr2816080wrc; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:48:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SvMTkvA3Kq0euq/atVa1GKfOT1mAuyZ7/DGsdRLP2BDgp0ISUvkn8Uj14wWnOS4HLebOj64TEwd9O0MpgvpTuaUlj5s1CCar/Ayo8fZCYetQgc6HZ02iJDnpYYdmLKimys2bbD3/afJ9FrwVu/s7KuDNgnf4xpmy70H7/xV9ieo= Message-ID: <8865866a050626014823af9a04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:48:05 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: experimenting with e-bay In-Reply-To: <200506260300.j5Q3061N005310@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506260300.j5Q3061N005310@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5Q8m5b4015232 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Mrs. Williams wrote: > >Ebay has hiked its selling fees, and now some people are going over to sites > >like overstock.com (click on auctions) and blubird.com (no e). > > > > Uh ... make that www.bluJAY.com. > > Amy > Yep. In Sweden, e-bay is very marginal. We have two other sites that are much more popular. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 04:59:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5Q9xke5016151 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:59:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:59:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069C3A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 5:49:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4241046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:49:45 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q9njdX018924 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:49:45 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:49:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:49:19 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Perhaps "help with transliteration" since you had a pretty good idea of it to begin with. -if you really feel like anything at all is necessary. I don't know what the convention is for Find-a-Grave entries and I'm pretty neutral about whether I get mentioned at all. BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 06/25/05 10:50 PM >>> Thank you, BrP!!! This is all I need -- names and dates. When I submit them to Find-a-Grave, is it ok if I say this: Thanks to Paul Barfoot for transliteration of the names. or maybe this: Transliteration by Paul Barfoot. I think "transliteration" makes more sense in this case than "translation" since I was pretty sure that the first date would be the birth date and the second the death date -- and, as you say, the months are pretty obvious. Do you agree? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 06:25:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QBPCe5025478 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:25:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:25:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE3444@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 7:25:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4243133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:25:11 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QBPBir018587 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:25:11 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24051722 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:25:28 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:25:40 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:25:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <633149958.20050626052517@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 238, in=86072, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 10:06 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Would they do that even though none of the products NM> were bought there? Sure. they want your business. And any CC store should help you, even if you bought the camera online from CC. Of course I'd never shop at CC personally. For me it is pretty much Dell or Best Buy or forget it, as I've never had a bad experience with those two, and have from the other national chains, including CC. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 06:27:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QBQxe5025639 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:27:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:27:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069C539@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 7:26:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4243165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:26:52 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QBQpOs018754 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:26:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24051767 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:27:09 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:27:21 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:26:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1811991449.20050626052658@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BD81FA.6030205@maynor.net> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <772256481.20050625063448@gailndan.com> <42BD50A7.8040700@maynor.net> <7110286671.20050625074719@gailndan.com> <42BD6A70.1090402@maynor.net> <5010531005.20050625090627@gailndan.com> <42BD81FA.6030205@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 238, in=86073, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 10:10 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> This goes back to the question of whether the local NM> store would deal NM> with the problem. I have not found the CC employees NM> very helpful in NM> answering questions -- and I bought the camera from NM> their national website. As noted, they SHOULD help you. If they didn't, I'd ask for a manager. If "national CC" gets a bad reputation it sure rubs off on them. And as just noted, this is a reason I won't buy from CC any more. Same as I'll never buy at Target for some similar reasons. Period. Ever. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 06:37:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QBbHe5026957 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:37:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:37:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069C49E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 7:37:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4243462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:37:16 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QBbGdh019769 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:37:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 23973472 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:48:50 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:37:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:37:20 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <538970511.20050626053720@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Screw It In-Reply-To: <42BD9B5E.30900@maynor.net> References: <42BCBAB7.2000807@maynor.net> <42BCBF4D.8030608@istori.com> <42BCC42C.1010406@maynor.net> <42BD6BB3.7030009@istori.com> <42BD80E8.20009@maynor.net> <42BD857D.4040501@istori.com> <42BD8704.3040307@maynor.net> <42BD8ADC.6020101@istori.com> <42BD9B5E.30900@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 240, in=100321, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 11:58 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I dunno. My experience has been that Radio Shack NM> employees vary NM> enormously in knowledge and friendliness. They also NM> vary in general -- NM> in age and even race. (I say "even" because I don't NM> think I've ever NM> seen a white employee in Best Buy or Circuit City, NM> but I have in Radio NM> Shack -- not here, but in Starkville.) BB and CC Of course in Boise I've never seen a black employee in RS, but have in CC and BB. And, yes, there is a considerable difference in distribution of the races in Boise than in Jackson. NM> employees are NM> amazingly in age and appearance. They NM> are all attractive, NM> cleancut, African American, and young -- aged about NM> 18-28, I'd say. My experience is that the same is true in all three chains, and not just in Boise, at least as far as age goes. The mixes of females runs about 25 percent in all three. I've never found a dud in BB, but sure have in CC. In RS it seems the stand alone stores have better employees than the one in the mall, but since I avoid the mall like the plague anyway.... dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 06:39:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QBcwe5027214 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:39:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:39:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069C4A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 7:38:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4243489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:38:58 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QBcwnJ019846 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:38:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24052012 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:39:15 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:39:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:39:04 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1749817216.20050626053904@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <42BD9FC1.7080704@maynor.net> References: <42BD9FC1.7080704@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 238, in=86074, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 12:17 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I don't notice the difference so NM> much with the tomatoes NM> themselves but can see it in the details in the NM> background -- like the NM> little pipe on the roof, the grill in the NM> crawl-space window (or NM> whatever you call that thing), etc: Yup, a big difference. And really glad you finally got it to work right with the right batteries. And that CC did what they should. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 06:50:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QBo3e5028604 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:50:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:50:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE346A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 7:30:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4243289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:30:02 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QBU15s019052 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:30:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23041696 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:13:19 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:30:31 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:30:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <526654334.20050626053008@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Need Compact Flash Card? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062509135a5706a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062509135a5706a3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=83856, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 10:13 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Good price, but not a whole lot lower than at >> local Costco or Best >> Buy. AFoA> But fewer crowds and the parking is easier. And having to wait for it to arrive. I've never found parking to be a problem at Best Buy, though it can be a zoo at Costco if you don't go at the right time. Saturday afternoons are pretty insane, but weekdays at 330 they often have checkers waiting for customers. Of course for those who insist on "parking close", it can be a pain. Personally, I always park in the far corner of the lot anyway. Why? Car is less likely to get dinged or bashed. We can all use the exercise. I've always found it strange that people will drive around ten minutes looking for a "close parking space" and will practically have fights over them, when they're about to go into some megastore or mall (or even more so at the gym) and do a ton of walking all over the place anyway. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 06:50:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QBo3e5028606 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:50:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:50:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE342B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 7:36:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4243425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:36:28 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QBaRqT019680 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:36:27 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.147]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626113627.LUDE885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:36:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.147]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626113627.EMCU11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:36:27 -0400 Message-ID: <42BE9338.4000802@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:36:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >Perhaps "help with transliteration" since you had a pretty good idea of >it to begin with. > > Or maybe "help with translation and transliteration." >-if you really feel like anything at all is necessary. I don't know >what the convention is for Find-a-Grave entries and I'm pretty neutral >about whether I get mentioned at all. > > I don't know that there's an established convention for these matters on Find-a-Grave, but I like citing helpers. Speaking of graves that , Theo would have loved the pictures I took yesterday of some of the Dutch graves, with the monument in the middle. These are people who were training as pilots here during WWII, and I'm not sure why they died -- maybe causes unrelated to their military role, maybe from plane accidents. An official from The Netherlands comes to Jackson every year for a little ceremony beside their graves. The following url shows pictures of the monument that's in the midst of the graves: http://tinyurl.com/alcw9 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 06:50:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QBoOe5028674 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:50:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:50:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069C397@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 7:40:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4243495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:40:24 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QBeN74019933 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:40:24 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23041874 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:23:42 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:40:53 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:40:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <378187164.20050626054029@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: YaY!!! In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050625142344.01c07c68@pop.gwi.net> References: <42BD99C7.5020004@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050625142344.01c07c68@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.047000 Subject has lots of exclamation marks=1.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=83857, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 12:24 PM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> I dunno. For what you paid for that camera, you cwv> ought to have one with a cwv> reliable switch... I'm betting that in the heat and humidity down there the contacts in switch and/or batteries were a bit dirty, corroded, funky, etc. And that it may after a few times just be permanently resolved. If that isn't the case, I'd agree with you and ask for an exchange/repair/replacement. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 06:50:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QBoOe5028675 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:50:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:50:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069C4A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 7:41:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4243529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:41:36 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QBfZVQ020044 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:41:36 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23041897 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:24:54 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:42:05 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 05:41:42 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <14526320.20050626054142@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more from Ohama In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=83858, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/25/2005, 1:55 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> We have a resident masseuse So is she Ohama Bin Laden in drag? Or a cousin of the sought bad guy? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 08:55:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QDtWe5013952 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:55:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:55:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069C493@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 9:55:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4246248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:55:31 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QDtVnx029200 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:55:31 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so207142wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.101.10 with SMTP id y10mr2904501wrb; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PwHMy3GO/RTbedZqBtjh/8KVhaH4rkOlCSxHXQhk87sZCNYGjwtJr7gTmbhVsySZMtrh9QnnwHUQAjMyhg7jbE0zZjR6a5ZtY8CLdQXib+vjaTzc7qACDxRvGLE0C7q1Updw8ABxw3kiQz+m4+M2samPNe3DNEkp0xYb2Hqul6c= Message-ID: <83db447a050626065511555419@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:55:31 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5QDtWe5013952 On 6/25/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > Damn it, for a minute it looked like the Gators had a chance. Then > the first inning started, and it didn't look that way again until the > bottom of the eighth. > > So anyway... what the heck was that UF pitcher doing? It looked like > he was about a foot off the ground. Never seen that before. Well, they have another chance today. Texas's success this CWS is partly because they get early leads, which gives their pitchers quite an advantage. I guess you mean the reliever, who had what's called a "submarine" delivery. It isn't very common, but you even see it occasionally in the majors---the Pirates, I think it was had Kent Tekulve, who was a submariner. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 09:23:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QEMwe5017863 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:22:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:23:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069C691@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 10:12:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4246545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:12:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QECwdT030340 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:12:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so107271nzi for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.11 with SMTP id x11mr2003755nzx; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:12:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iVFl9Gkx0owVI6BsBbThNqi+PH2P0um3TdadZvdj0i2H2n1qckLEeVsEjPrAx9IdIyO1vf/vGeMbMvXmmNmrC0q+ADM0uZ6jyIYZjdQ0lQZjCSNki2Vyg1sEu/bBW4HVqcHqdBbDrB35IARvT1cpu8GHNWI2pfxcjVpKApGEvOY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062607125f412fd7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:12:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Need Compact Flash Card? In-Reply-To: <526654334.20050626053008@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BCC6B7.4010404@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050625060445.0276d6c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <1165078270.20050625074930@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062509135a5706a3@mail.gmail.com> <526654334.20050626053008@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5QECwdT030341 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/25/2005, 10:13 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> Good price, but not a whole lot lower than at > >> local Costco or Best > >> Buy. > > AFoA> But fewer crowds and the parking is easier. > > And having to wait for it to arrive. I don't buy stuff online that I need right away, so wait time is irrelevant to me. > I've never found parking to be a > problem at Best Buy, Mine is in a shopping center that is always very crowded. I'm lucky if I can find a space anywhere in the lot, let alone in front of Best Buy. I avoid it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 10:10:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QFAme5024727 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:10:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:10:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE3628@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 10:40:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4246990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:40:47 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QEekT3032412 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:40:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:40:46 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:40:12 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Omaha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have always believed that understanding cricket and understanding baseball are mutually exclusive. BrP Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> sylvar@GMAIL.COM 06/26/05 10:36 AM >>> It's fun explaining baseball to an Indian guy who knows cricket. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 10:13:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QFD0e5024983 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:13:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:13:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069C5FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 10:32:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4246865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:32:58 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QEWwvf031941 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:32:58 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:32:57 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:32:18 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: FestWeather Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's looking good for next weekend. The extended forecast says highs of low 80s and lows of low 60s with no rain forecast until Monday night. It has been beastly hot here this week. Yesterday afternoon when I called time & temp, the lady said it was 97 though the weather guy on tv said it was only 94. I believe the lady. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 10:13:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QFD0e5024984 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:13:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:13:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069C6E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 11:08:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4247421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:08:44 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QF8iSx002056 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:08:44 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5QF8fH9020585 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:08:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42BEC502.6020409@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:08:50 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: neat gadget Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just took delivery on an iPod camera connector, which lets you turn an iPod Photo into a place to offload photos from your camera. Now when I go away on vacation I don't need to worry about rationing memory chip space in the camera, and I don't need to carry a laptop to offload pictures into either. First you have to make sure your iPod Photo is at System 1.1. If it's still at 1.0 the upgrade process consists of a download from Apple and a three-mouse-click installation. The camera connector is a plug that slots into the dock connector on the bottom of the iPod and has a USB plug on the other side. Run a USB cable from the camera to the USB plug on the iPod, and the camera is fooled into thinking it is plugged into a computer. The iPod then displays a photo import screen which makes it easy to import all your pictures. It even has a menu choice to delete the camera's memory card if you want. This is a beautifully-designed product, and it's so intuitive to use. Like the iPod itself, it's an example of how electronic things should work. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 10:13:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QFD0e5024978 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:13:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:13:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069C604@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 10:36:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4246929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:36:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QEaA2X032116 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:36:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z3so106759nzf for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.1 with SMTP id u1mr3755316nzg; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:36:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=l1cRD/slcabMI5MTplXPZy39rVBi5aZaRo3c/gzzo9vRlDDw08KWwN64xsWOANEy/oXM21e81jpQMSCuF6WmkLXGqo5wlduRpIaIbhMHyB4qavuxBQV5VFxgj3ODRwCL3DQbs14YrE9Ydh8xnhzCHKhQpwPk0P2h2NKvTOOZToY= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:36:09 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha In-Reply-To: <83db447a050626065511555419@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <83db447a050626065511555419@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5QEaA2X032117 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I guess you mean the reliever, who had what's called a "submarine" > delivery. Yeah, I tuned in again at the bottom of the 8th, so it would have been their reliever. It's fun explaining baseball to an Indian guy who knows cricket. He's going to return the favor by explaining SQL programming to me. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 10:13:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QFD0e5024982 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:13:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:13:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069C519@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 11:00:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4247267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:00:35 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QF0Yun001560 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:00:35 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5QF0Vto024084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:00:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:00:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Fest and Brad Grissom memorial In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: > It's looking good for next weekend. The extended forecast says highs of > low 80s and lows of low 60s with no rain forecast until Monday night. > It has been beastly hot here this week. Yesterday afternoon when I > called time & temp, the lady said it was 97 though the weather guy on tv > said it was only 94. I believe the lady. It's been extremely warm here in Michigan, too. I regret that I will not be able to attend the Fest, due to my responsibility, as a small-time politician seeking re-election against a well known opponent, to march in the local 4th of July parades. However, though I haven't heard anything about it lately, I do plan to travel to Lexington, Kentucky for Brad Grissom's memorial service at 5:00 pm on July 7th. I'm assuming the event is still on for that date and time, and that I'm invited to speak. If not, please inform me. Tentatively, I'm planning to read aht's very nice eulogy, which also explains and describes Words-L as the environment where we knew him. If there is something else I should say, again, please let me know. If you have a copy of aht's eulogy (I thought I had it handy, but it wasn't in the place I just looked), you could save me some time by sending it my way. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 10:42:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QFgWe5028299 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:42:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:42:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069C74B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 11:36:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4248468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:36:42 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QFagS1004207 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:36:42 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005062615364101200jifd1e>; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:36:41 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Fest and Brad Grissom memorial Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:36:35 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > If you have a copy of aht's eulogy (I thought I had it handy, but it > wasn't in the place I just looked), you could save me some time by sending > it my way. I haven't seen it either. Anne, would you mind posting it to the list? --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 10:43:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QFgWe5028296 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:42:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:42:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069C741@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 11:32:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4248326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:32:31 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QFWT6v003800 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:32:31 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so215994wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.32 with SMTP id z32mr2083702wrz; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=R/ebGHwg/B4LFkoJucHg11xv3XUZIginDbJFByWQlJozyOCfnAgzbDrThYEvhBayQBOOOmvqeQCJuOmJKpGKwbE+SITxT2+hz0k7nCUuhUPc+DBjgXT50NUG07dqcCGiDPgymDdFnlYZRlUXwg5Rmt1I9/jvdQrFg317U+Fbut4= Message-ID: <83db447a05062608325d60dfa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:32:29 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FestWeather In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5QFgWe5028296 On 6/26/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > It has been beastly hot here this week. Yesterday afternoon when I > called time & temp, the lady said it was 97 though the weather guy on tv > said it was only 94. We got some of that yesterday---Bangor hit 95; we probably were a bit below that. We knew that it was coming---earlier in the week, Tom and Holly were enjoying high 80s-low 90s with lots of humidity at their place near the UP line. We might get some rain this afternoon as the wind shifts to NNE, which might cool things off a bit. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 10:43:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QFgWe5028300 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:42:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:42:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069C69B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 11:38:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4248503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:38:57 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QFcv4a004338 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:38:57 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005062615385701100n3nv1e>; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:38:57 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: neat gadget Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:38:50 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42BEC502.6020409@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I just took delivery on an iPod camera connector, which lets you turn an > iPod Photo into a place to offload photos from your camera. I can't imagine that the photos sound very good. Lots of squeaks and screeches... >From what I've seen of Apple and Apple-related products, they Just Work. More and more I'm considering a PowerBook when this Toshiba Windows-based laptop is no longer sufficient. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 11:13:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QGD6e5031675 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:13:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:13:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069C6CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 12:13:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4249114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:13:06 -0400 Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QG35Z7006222 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:03:06 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([82.44.217.231]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:03:47 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: References: <83db447a050626065511555419@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2724EC48-A191-4AC6-90CB-6892D6D89E8C@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roy Jaques Subject: Re: Omaha Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:04:41 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2005 16:03:47.0090 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2782F20:01C57A68] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 26 Jun 2005, at 15:36, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > It's fun explaining baseball to an Indian guy who knows cricket. He's > going to return the favor by explaining SQL programming to me. Tell him it's just like rounders. Now if he can explain cricket to you I'd be amazed. Yes, cricket. The game that can last for 5 days then end up a draw (tie) when it rains. In fact for one day matches interrupted by the weather there is a method of calculating the winner. Do I understand it ? Not a chance. http://www.jritson.demon.co.uk/dl.htm or the 'official' version at http://www.icc-cricket.com/rules/d-l_method.pdf for those nights when you just can't sleep. > > Ben > Cricket...Yawn, a wonderful game...Zzzzzzzzz Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:12:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QHCMe5004995 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:12:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:12:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069C7BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 12:42:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4250007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:41:56 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QGfue5009025 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:41:56 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005062616415501400mee1fe>; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:41:55 +0000 Message-ID: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:41:49 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: neat gadget References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield writes, > From what I've seen of Apple and Apple-related products, they Just Work. > More and more I'm considering a PowerBook when this Toshiba Windows-based > laptop is no longer sufficient. I love my little 1999 Fujitsu B-142 with touchscreen, but the battery's shot, and the screen res is only 800x600, which makes it hard to VNC back to my desktop. So I had the company buy me a 12" iBook. Bottom of the line, didn't see much reason to spend more since I've still got a desktop for primary use. I expected to need more RAM at some point, and after using it, I still think I do, but it's not too urgent. Partly I wanted a laptop that Just Worked, partly I was hankering for some High Quality Industrial Design, and partly I've been itching to run some Mac-only software (SubEthaEdit, Comic Life, OmniGraffle, Safari to see how our app looks, etc.). I've been very happy with it, and it nicely satisfies all the wants I had. The small quibbles: * I miss a touchscreen, but I compensate for that with a nice wireless mouse (Logitech V500, which is super nice except for the trackpad scroll "wheel", which is not as practical as it should be). * In an atypical design uh-oh, my right hand brushes the laptop's trackpad when I'm typing once in a while, which makes my mouse pointer jump somewhere random on the screen. This is eliminated completely when I can use the wireless mouse, because I tell the Mac to disable the touchpad when a mouse is present, but still, it's a little disconcerting. * Most people think the 12" iBook is small, but it's still too big for me. The keyboard is a little too big, the computer is a little too heavy (it does have great battery life, at least). But that's just me -- I'm used to the *tiny* 1.3 kilogram B-142. * And I still don't get OmniGraffle. I've done a review of a bunch of diagramming software on Window, Mac and Linux, and OmniGraffle's okay, but isn't a religious experience like it is for some people. My iBook is a friendly, fun little computer, and I had a distinct feeling of happiness and joy using it instead of a Windows box this week at Supernova. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 12:48:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QHlte5008123 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:47:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:48:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069C856@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 13:37:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4251780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:37:54 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.43]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QHbsSb013428 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:37:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j5QHbpgJ008262 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:37:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42BEE7F8.5090303@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:38:00 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: neat gadget References: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > My iBook is a friendly, fun little computer, and I had a distinct > feeling of happiness and joy using it instead of a Windows box this week > at Supernova. Stop that. You're making me want to get one now before the Macintels come out next year. Regarding your comment on the usability of a 12" screen, that's what my Dell X300 has and I find it just perfect. Laptop computers are a collection of tradeoffs and compromises, and for me, lightness and thinness is more important than a cinema-grade display. -a From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 13:15:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QIF0e5011544 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:15:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:15:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069C8A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 14:05:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4252301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:05:19 -0400 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QHtJSw015012 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:55:19 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([82.44.217.231]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:56:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3E46013C-D62C-4871-8A5E-E83C94C8EB0E@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roy Jaques Subject: Re: neat gadget Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:56:55 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2005 17:56:00.0681 (UTC) FILETIME=[5000A190:01C57A78] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 26 Jun 2005, at 16:38, Adam Hartfield wrote: > From what I've seen of Apple and Apple-related products, they Just > Work. > More and more I'm considering a PowerBook when this Toshiba Windows- > based > laptop is no longer sufficient. > I, on the otherhand am considering buying a PC for the first time. Then partition the disk so I can play with Linux, BSD (just for the hell of it) and Solaris x86. I need to find out how other stuff works. Oh, before someone starts singing the praises of their favourite manufacturer, I do not need recommendations for the hardware. I work with Windows engineers and have enough choices to sort through already. > > --Adam > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 13:15:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QIF0e5011543 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:15:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:15:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069C6E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 14:04:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4252729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:04:59 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QI4xOa016043 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:04:59 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626180458.JPZZ26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:04:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626180458.OXSW29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:04:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42BEEE47.5020907@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:04:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fest and Brad Grissom memorial References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > However, though I haven't heard anything about it lately, I do plan to > travel to Lexington, Kentucky for Brad Grissom's memorial service at > 5:00 pm on July 7th. I'm assuming the event is still on for that date > and > time, and that I'm invited to speak. If not, please inform me. I feel sure that all is still on schedule. > If you have a copy of aht's eulogy (I thought I had it handy, but it > wasn't in the place I just looked), you could save me some time by > sending > it my way. I don't have it. Steph in Lexington does, I think. I think abht sent it directly to her. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 13:15:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QIF0e5011540 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:15:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:15:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069C833@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 14:13:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4253050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:13:48 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QIDm3v016849 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:13:48 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73375297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:13:48 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626111420.0267d160@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:15:23 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: additional Fest details In-Reply-To: <200506251558.j5PFwRMn012823@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506251558.j5PFwRMn012823@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How far away is Cooperstown? I want to go to the Glimmerhouse Opera after the Baseball Hall of fame on Thursday, I think? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 14:45:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QJjfe5022116 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:45:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:45:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069C834@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 15:25:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4255584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:25:40 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QJPeR7023501 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:25:40 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE3A7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 15:25:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200506261925.j5QJPeR7023501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:25:40 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: additional Fest details To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:15:23 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > How far away is Cooperstown? I want to go to the Glimmerhouse Opera >after the Baseball Hall of fame on Thursday, I think? > >Betty About 2 hrs (93 miles). Courtesy of Mapquest: >From Carrier Circle, take Thomspon Rd south 7: Merge onto I-690 E. (~1-3 miles - clo ) 8: Merge onto I-481 N via the exit on the LEFT toward THRUWAY. 3.2 miles 9: Merge onto I-90 E / NEW YORK STATE TRWY E via EXIT 6 toward ALBANY (Portions toll). 57.8 miles 10: Take the RT-28 exit- EXIT 30- toward HERKIMER / MOHAWK. 0.4 miles 11: Turn LEFT onto MOHAWK ST / NY-28 S. Continue to follow NY-28 S. 0.6 miles 12: Turn LEFT onto COLUMBIA ST / NY-28. Continue to follow NY-28. 11.1 miles 13: Turn LEFT onto W MAIN ST / US-20 / NY-28. 0.4 miles 14: Turn RIGHT onto PROSPECT ST / NY-28. Continue to follow NY-28. 14.6 miles 15: Turn LEFT onto CHESTNUT ST / NY-80. 0.2 miles 16: Turn RIGHT onto MAIN ST / CR-31. 0.1 miles 17: End at Cooperstown, NY US clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 15:21:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QKL3e5026566 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:21:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:21:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069C9BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 16:21:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4257026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:21:03 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QKL2vJ029053 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:21:02 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73398309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:21:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626132107.026178a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:22:36 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: additional Fest details In-Reply-To: <200506261925.j5QJPeR7023501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506261925.j5QJPeR7023501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks. IMFTATL. I can't get Glimmerhouse Opera to co-operate with me. I better finish packing. Do you drink coffee? What kind do you like? Betty At 12:25 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote: >On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:15:23 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > > How far away is Cooperstown? I want to go to the Glimmerhouse Opera > >after the Baseball Hall of fame on Thursday, I think? > > > >Betty > >About 2 hrs (93 miles). >Courtesy of Mapquest: > From Carrier Circle, take Thomspon Rd south > > 7: Merge onto I-690 E. (~1-3 miles - clo ) > 8: Merge onto I-481 N via the exit on the LEFT toward THRUWAY. 3.2 miles > 9: Merge onto I-90 E / NEW YORK STATE TRWY E via EXIT 6 toward ALBANY >(Portions toll). 57.8 miles > 10: Take the RT-28 exit- EXIT 30- toward HERKIMER / MOHAWK. 0.4 miles > 11: Turn LEFT onto MOHAWK ST / NY-28 S. Continue to follow NY-28 S. 0.6 >miles > 12: Turn LEFT onto COLUMBIA ST / NY-28. Continue to follow NY-28. 11.1 >miles > 13: Turn LEFT onto W MAIN ST / US-20 / NY-28. 0.4 miles > 14: Turn RIGHT onto PROSPECT ST / NY-28. Continue to follow NY-28. 14.6 >miles > 15: Turn LEFT onto CHESTNUT ST / NY-80. 0.2 miles > 16: Turn RIGHT onto MAIN ST / CR-31. 0.1 miles > 17: End at Cooperstown, NY US >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 16:07:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QL7Ye5031214 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:07:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:07:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069C967@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 17:07:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4258825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:07:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QL7XBK003169 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:07:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:07:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:06:53 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Omaha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ah, so it IS the same as baseball after all BrP >>> stevie@MULTINIX.COM 06/26/05 5:04 PM >>> Someone once explained cricket to me as an excuse for sitting in the stands and drinking beer all afternoon. That I understand. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 16:14:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QLEYe5031712 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:14:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:14:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE3C0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 17:04:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4258756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:04:34 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QL4Xf0002957 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:04:33 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5QL4WCZ013698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:04:32 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5QL4V6W013696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:04:31 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:04:31 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha Message-ID: <20050626210431.GA13414@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <83db447a050626065511555419@mail.gmail.com> <2724EC48-A191-4AC6-90CB-6892D6D89E8C@blueyonder.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2724EC48-A191-4AC6-90CB-6892D6D89E8C@blueyonder.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = Cricket...Yawn, a wonderful game...Zzzzzzzzz = = Roy Someone once explained cricket to me as an excuse for sitting in the stands and drinking beer all afternoon. That I understand. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 16:15:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QLFLe5031788 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:15:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:15:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CB2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 17:15:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4258966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:15:21 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QLFK0x003884 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:15:21 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73408515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:15:20 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626141623.0261b640@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:16:54 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: FEST In-Reply-To: <200506250024.j5P0OLPL027379@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506250024.j5P0OLPL027379@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Somehow the translation stripped that line. Sorry! >121 Victoria Place >clo Phone numbers? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 16:54:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QLsZe5002400 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:54:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:54:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069C9F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 17:54:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4260324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:54:35 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QLsZE4006670 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:54:35 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:54:35 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:53:54 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: FEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul: home - 315 446 8127 work - 315 443 2697 Paul Barfoot Special Collections Research Center Syracuse University Library >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/26/05 5:16 PM >>> phone numbers? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:14:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QMDne5004230 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:13:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:14:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CBDB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 18:03:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4260826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:03:48 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QM3mVY007395 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:03:48 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 73417388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:03:47 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626150316.026625f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:05:21 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: FEST In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you, Paul. Loved the T-shirts, btw. I think I am all packed. Looking forward to seeing everyone. How far away is Marie? Can we make a day trip out of it? Betty At 02:53 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote: >Paul: >home - 315 446 8127 >work - 315 443 2697 > >Paul Barfoot >Special Collections Research Center >Syracuse University Library > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/26/05 5:16 PM >>> >phone numbers? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:14:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QMDne5004232 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:13:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:14:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CBFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 18:12:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4261121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:12:52 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QMCpSr008023 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:12:52 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i3so255688wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.53.39 with SMTP id b39mr2974404wra; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:12:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gIS92wqDXmi/GEvW7fDssHw9mgqIGCENx3YlsnZWOCM+eEGD5pk6wmGBWX+Bavje0+vBur6GQxZ1HcbERZrjpOpFZJvtWismE1pafRZA1/vsL3VkRXx55EUTzulVuwMvDXfbfFbaThiuDyK8MlLneqWCP0uSubCn79E2nRUZTk0= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:12:51 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5QMDne5004232 Or fishing. Or deer hunting. ah, so it IS the same as baseball after all > BrP > Someone once explained cricket to me as an excuse for sitting in the > stands and drinking beer all afternoon. That I understand. --steph > -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:15:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QMFbe5004348 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:15:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:15:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CC04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 18:15:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4261232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:15:36 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QMFZK8008223 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:15:36 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5QMFW5B029714 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:15:32 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5QMFW8g029709 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:15:32 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5QMFVnt022539 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:15:31 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5QMFVG8022534 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:15:31 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j5QMFUOF028048 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:15:31 +0900 Message-ID: <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Sentences Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:15:11 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dear Wordslers, > 3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. While it can be parsed as a grammatical utterance, I'd think the person who said it is not a native speaker. > 3c) Happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. Completely acceptable, and somewhat formal/literary in tone. Ben ---------------------------------------------- 6/21/2005, 11:17 PM, Tanaka Akio wrote: TA> 3b) The happy are those whose work gives them pleasure. 3b seems awkward to me, but not　"incorrect" to my ears. dan ----------------------------------------------- IMHO, 3b, maybe not. Dave ------------------------------ > 3b and 4 are both acceptable but not so likely to occur > as 5. 3c has a "biblical language" flavor to it. Wrong. 3b is almost totally unacceptable. 4 is entirely acceptable. The Beatitudes, to be specific. The first bit of Matthew 5, though "Blessed are the happy" isn't quite in there. Tony H. ------------------------------- As always, I can think of contexts that they would seem normal in, but I'd call them borderline in acceptability except in odd contexts. I would not go so far as starring them as ungrammatical but would say that they sound a bit odd. Actually, 3c would sound a wee bit odd in ordinary conversation. It sounds kind of -- or maybe like something a preacher would say in the pulpit, drawing language from the King James Bible (maybe later versions also -- I don't know know that I know how The Beatitudes are worded in other versions -- "blessed are the meek" etc.). -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) ------------------------------------------ Thank you for the comments. What about: 3d) The happy are those people whose work gives them pleasure. ? I am trying to compose sentences which include ‘those whose work gives them pleasure.’ The one I made up is: 4) I would like you to be those whose work gives them pleasure. Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:19:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QMJje5004597 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:19:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:19:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CB5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 18:19:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4261371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:19:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QMJioL008449 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:19:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so264928wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.76.6 with SMTP id y6mr3054710wra; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kLc3Dec7+H3gzNhJaQF4s2yvpzQXKVNq/jbPluLgTn1zLFSnJlLwUA6LINRja0sWANdqUkhOawMfYz4/oat0IOO9t+4ronznSYNz4cMN8o3QlKduHCiPHojD94HUJtDFssVGiorfUODw67Dk8F8nSkMOKgkB8INL5WBa+ZQK2Rw= Message-ID: <83db447a0506261519371d713b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:19:44 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5QMJje5004597 On 6/26/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Or fishing. Or deer hunting. Fishing, perhaps. As for deer hunting, it is best an abstemious day, followed by a martini (S,NS) and a good dinner in the evening. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:23:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QMNIe5004827 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:23:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:23:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CA60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 18:23:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4261460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:23:18 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QMNHeW008664 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:23:17 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5QMNGWC029781 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:23:16 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5QMNF6s029776 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:23:16 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5QMNFLZ022606 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:23:15 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5QMNEMP022601 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:23:14 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j5QMNDOF033284 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:23:14 +0900 Message-ID: <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> Subject: New Gleanings (2) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:22:54 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 1) Diegetic 2) anti-lynching legislation 3) Find-a-Grave 4) Heston with a S&W 76 5) Scientology 6) Mapquest Any info will be appreciated. Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:25:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QMPje5005133 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:25:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:25:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CB6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 18:25:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4261530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:25:44 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QMPi1P008851 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:25:44 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B8B21C589436 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:25:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <83db447a0506261519371d713b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Omaha Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:25:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" To: Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Omaha On 6/26/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Or fishing. Or deer hunting. Fishing, perhaps. As for deer hunting, it is best an abstemious day, followed by a martini (S,NS) and a good dinner in the evening. cwv My immediate thoughts also. I don't believe people hunting with guns are drinking. (Some, of course . . the irresponsible ones. But getting that deer is too important to a serious hunter to jeopardize with booze). - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:28:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QMSAe5005326 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:28:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:28:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CB74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 18:28:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4261583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:28:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QMSAtN009031 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:28:10 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so139992nzf for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr3384507nzc; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:28:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=F8CStpKkPLYSd7tNB0ILdd6B8QeUU5Fz6yKxxJidNePCqgH+rZXoVJPzoM0MsIrWeN88l8rC+WbR32Xk//7DhSk8iepiU4YM+pesbsq6MChnzl5Rz0SyxNiDVBbKdpRG/oDR1yg8dx8C7lguEEwZQRgHNUmmuqVUNG95xnBYepg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:28:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5QMSAtN009033 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Tanaka Akio wrote: > 4) I would like you to be those whose work gives them pleasure. I'd say "among those whose work..." It's not exhaustive listing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:51:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QMpee5007766 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:51:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:51:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CBB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 18:51:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4262218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:51:39 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QMpdnk010664 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:51:39 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 89DE839396307 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:51:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Sentences Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:51:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:28 PM Subject: Re: Sentences > On 6/26/05, Tanaka Akio wrote: >> 4) I would like you to be those whose work gives them pleasure. > > I'd say "among those whose work..." It's not exhaustive listing. > > Karen Could you not say "I hope you are one whose work gives them pleasure" or, more simply, "I hope your work gives you pleasure." ? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:53:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QMree5007977 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:53:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:53:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CAB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 18:53:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4262346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:53:35 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QMrYrk010859 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:53:35 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23852395 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:18:25 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:54:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:53:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 240, in=87431, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 4:22 PM, Tanaka Akio wrote: TA> 2) anti-lynching legislation Lynching is a mob taking it upon themselves to execute an accused criminal, typically by hanging. Most frequently done in years past by white people who thought that a black person had done something evil, such as raping or killing a white person. Many of those lynched were undoubtedly not guilty, but either way, had no trial. Lynching is murder, but there has been some suggestion that there needs to be a particular law to also make lynching illegal specifically. Seems redundant to me. TA> 3) Find-a-Grave A website that Natalie contributes to. Has pictures of tombstones and such in cemeteries. You can undoubtedly google to it. TA> 4) Heston with a S&W 76 Charlton Heston is a famous actor,now quite elderly. Best known as Moses in "the Ten Commandments". He is a Second Amendment and National Rifle Association activist. S&W is Smith and Wesson is a firearms manufacturer, and I assume it is a reference to a particular weapon. I'm not up on firearms models. TA> 5) Scientology Google it. It is a "religion" of sorts, started by the science fiction author L. Ron Hubbard, now deceased. Many movie stars seem to be into it lately. I find it beyond explanation, so check out their website and see if YOU can understand it. TA> 6) Mapquest A website something like maps.google.com or maps.yahoo.com. All do the same thing, providing maps, driving directoins, and so forth. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 17:56:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QMuee5008235 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:56:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:56:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CABD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 18:56:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4262480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:56:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QMudGi011118 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:56:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so135385nzb for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.13 with SMTP id d13mr3396384nzc; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:56:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s8vDw/oie/Yf1Tib0tlYS4xTbgb1ZSLkX99PPZr5AeA1Acme5te2ZApeAFGv0fFugn+b/5eTRfPLe4rOOD6kxx0uUHp6JULPC//FB7CvezJ+X3ZrUgTa19jJvHkDB5R6cZgp4+5ciQ6Kq4Oq1KEoTvs3gKyelhS3PI++pg+zwoQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062615562a3028f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:56:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5QMueGi011119 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Lynching is murder, but there has been some suggestion that there > needs to be a particular law to also make lynching illegal > specifically. Seems redundant to me. Someone brought up the federal vs. state thing. It's not redundant to have a law in a different jurisdiction. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:10:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNASe5009444 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:10:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:10:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CBD5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:00:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4262653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:00:27 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QN0R7q011364 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:00:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23068413 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:43:53 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:00:56 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:00:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <892456917.20050626170033@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062615562a3028f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062615562a3028f4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=83947, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 4:56 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Seems redundant to me. AFoA> Someone brought up the federal vs. state thing. It's AFoA> not redundant to AFoA> have a law in a different jurisdiction. I suppose. And it has the "feel good" aspect, which is fine wiht me, too. Of course there are plenty of ways murder is illegal under federal law, too. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:10:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNATe5009449 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:10:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:10:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CBE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:09:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4262833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:09:56 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QN9pYh012051 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:09:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE3E18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:09:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200506262309.j5QN9pYh012051@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:09:51 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: FEST To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:05:21 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >Thank you, Paul. > >Loved the T-shirts, btw. > >I think I am all packed. Looking forward to seeing everyone. How far away >is Marie? Can we make a day trip out of it? > >Betty Has the offcial attendance prospectus been released yet? Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:10:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNATe5009448 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:10:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:10:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CBD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:01:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4262671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:01:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QN1YL4011501 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:01:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so135618nzb for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.80 with SMTP id w80mr3382372nzg; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:01:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=drsvHoJ7GSipv5E6a2mAOj3mH5HEN+eTRr4lsDmhQQPyaAcsuY293AhH4Ig8Q6YBs397C+40mePDpuSOPxl1VxE5FxyJXUhVn3/mKpbCiT03a25VD0BoJovH1vdYGVUze10WUTogOBUtsH7XQ/GjnEg8AW4hGfCLbaoHwlwuzwM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062616015bced954@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:01:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5QN1ZL4011502 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:28 PM > Subject: Re: Sentences > > > > On 6/26/05, Tanaka Akio wrote: > >> 4) I would like you to be those whose work gives them pleasure. > > > > I'd say "among those whose work..." It's not exhaustive listing. > > > > Karen > > Could you not say "I hope you are one whose work gives them pleasure" > > or, more simply, "I hope your work gives you pleasure." ? It depends. The sentence I provided sounds like part of a graduation speech to me. "I hope you are one whose work gives them pleasure" is addressed to one person, so it's not appropriate. "I hope your work gives you pleasure." is more emotional. Me, I'd refer them to Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi ... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:16:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNGOe5010252 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:16:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:16:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CBF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:16:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4263065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:16:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QNGN27012590 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:16:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so249817wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.29.24 with SMTP id c24mr2988523wrc; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:16:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YYdpC+tz5EpqMB8aRft6yr21EPTFwl4GJtKEngobib570sDOa0DcegNr3pq+cbB0TmCQ+4jncaS3dCdGBNSJw2lVYYQCxsNscBzoLaRIiAqW8ae445WbhWiKps0j/Cgqez170IRJG4jHE1XVBJfVS5gQL5HaB1ii2IfbNmTM7J0= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:16:23 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha In-Reply-To: <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a0506261519371d713b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5QNGOe5010252 > > My immediate thoughts also. I don't believe people > hunting with guns are drinking. (Some, of course . . > the irresponsible ones. But getting that deer is too > important to a serious hunter to jeopardize with > booze). - D. M. > My personal experience of deer hunting comes from watching my brother travel from southeastern Wisconsin to northern Wisconsin with a bunch of buddies for a long weekend during deer hunting season. They seldom came home with a deer. They did have many empties to show for their weekend. I don't think they left the cabin very often. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:19:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNJ3e5010549 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:19:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:19:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CAEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:19:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4263105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:19:02 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QNJ2fh012722 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:19:02 -0400 Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626231902.BIEV885.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:19:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626231901.MHXR1856.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:19:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF37E2.5080902@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:18:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <41FE3401.7040801@maynor.net> <018a01c57199$fd4ffd60$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio wrote: > What about: > > 3d) The happy are those people whose work gives them pleasure. ? It would sound more natural (though a bit literary) without the "the": Happy are those people whose work gives them pleasure. This sounds even more natural, imho -- less : Happy people are those whose work gives them pleasure. > 4) I would like you to be those whose work gives them pleasure. At first I was going to say that that didn't work at all -- but then I realized that English does in fact allow "you" to be plural. :-) I first read the above as singular "you," which wouldn't make sense. Either singular or plural "you" would work if you added something like "among" -- to be among those whose work gives them pleasure. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:27:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNREe5011325 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:27:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:27:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CB01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:27:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4263305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:27:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QNRDpZ013237 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:27:13 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so143270nzf for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr3394595nzb; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:27:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e0N8Dwtr+7Is3S5P3ojz4kD59a3YST6HlBXFgFzWdPeLVuzRHozdaoTXiGSMe6d0RwdSP4VSqE40BXH1xWpQObENrwWykFOO3wmAgMNWSiQKUJv/EcgO1xtaEVU8TtCs3vD9Klcr3htTG5rhGYSAQ/9kHlguq1lVax1K+iVZlAQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062616276edf604a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:27:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <892456917.20050626170033@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062615562a3028f4@mail.gmail.com> <892456917.20050626170033@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5QNRDpZ013238 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/26/2005, 4:56 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> Seems redundant to me. > > AFoA> Someone brought up the federal vs. state thing. It's > AFoA> not redundant to > AFoA> have a law in a different jurisdiction. > > I suppose. And it has the "feel good" aspect, which is fine wiht me, > too. Of course there are plenty of ways murder is illegal under > federal law, too. I thought that hate crimes were generally federal. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:30:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNUpe5011667 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:30:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:30:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CCC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:30:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4263435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:30:50 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QNUnTD013506 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:30:50 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5QNUnJN008197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:30:49 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:30:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fest and Brad Grissom memorial In-Reply-To: <42BEEE47.5020907@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42BEEE47.5020907@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't have it. Steph in Lexington does, I think. I think abht sent > it directly to her. No problem, I found it. Sorry for any trouble. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:32:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNWMe5011750 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:32:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:32:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CCC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:32:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4263469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:21 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QNWLrZ013580 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:21 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626233221.HCVQ2145.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626233220.XQCW25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:32:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio wrote: > 1) Diegetic Oh dear. We need Giggles! I'll hold off on this one in hopes that somebody else has responded. > 2) anti-lynching legislation There was a vote in the US Sentate recently to apologize for never having passed a Senate resolution against lynching. Apparently it came up in the '50s when lynchings were rampant in the US South, but the Senate decided to do nothing. (Do you know what lynching is? I just thought about that. It's when ordinary people -- well, not at all "ordinary" -- it's non-police people taking it upon themselves to decide that somebody has done something bad and going and getting that person and killing him, usually by hanging from a tree.) Lynching is of course illegal since it's murder. But, as we were discussing here recently, laws against murder are state laws, and the idea is that there should be a national law also. > 3) Find-a-Grave http://www.findagrave.com/ > 4) Heston with a S&W 76 I don't remember reading this on the list, but I assume it's a reference to Charlton Heston, an aged, alzheimer-ridden movie actor, who has been very active in pro-gun stuff for a long time. (How active he is these days, I'm not sure. He was a guest in my brother and sister-in-law's house a good many years ago and was already quite obviously suffering from his alzheimers -- as in not knowing where he was or what he was doing.) > 5) Scientology Another one I hope somebody else has answered. It's some kind of off-beat religion/philosophy that I know almost nothing about. > 6) Mapquest http://www.mapquest.com/ (The reason I posted urls for 3 and 6 is not because I believe in posting a url as an answer to most questions -- a url in addition to an answer would be fine but not a url by itself. But in the case of Find-a-Grave and Mapquest, since they are websites, the urls seem the most efficient way to answer the question of what they are.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:34:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNYCe5012008 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:34:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:34:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CB12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:34:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4263517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:34:11 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QNYB60013663 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:34:11 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626233411.HDNI2145.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:34:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626233410.XQMW25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:34:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF3B70.2080103@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:34:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha References: <83db447a0506261519371d713b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > My immediate thoughts also. I don't believe people > hunting with guns are drinking. (Some, of course . . > the irresponsible ones. But getting that deer is too > important to a serious hunter to jeopardize with > booze). I took Bonnie's point to be that deer-hunting is often an excuse for a bunch of men getting together in the woods to drink in a run-down shack. That does not mean that they necessarily drink while hunting. My understanding is that most of the hunting occurs in the morning, and then they adjourn to the shack for drinking. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:35:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNZje5012180 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:35:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:35:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CC1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:35:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4263539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:35:44 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QNZhVP013782 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:35:43 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626233543.HEHG2145.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:35:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626233540.XQWG25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:35:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF3BC9.9090807@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:35:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >> 4) I would like you to be those whose work gives them pleasure. >> >> >I'd say "among those whose work..." It's not exhaustive listing. > > What she said! (That, btw, is an expression that gained popularity in US slang a number of years ago. I think it got started from something like a tv show.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:36:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNale5012276 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:36:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:36:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CC1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:36:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4263573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:36:47 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QNakmD013852 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:36:46 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626233646.HERN2145.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:36:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626233646.XRCS25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:36:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF3C0B.305@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:36:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Could you not say "I hope you are one whose work gives them pleasure" > > or, more simply, "I hope your work gives you pleasure." ? But what he was trying to do was find sentences that could include "those whose work gives them pleasure." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:42:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNgFe5012722 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:42:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:42:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CCD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:42:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4263675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:42:15 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QNgFZP014543 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:42:15 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626234215.HHIB2145.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:42:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050626234214.XSIU25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:42:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:42:11 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >white people who thought that a black person had done something evil, >such as raping or killing a white person. > Or sometimes even speaking to or looking at inappropriately. I don't think Emmett Till was accused of rape or murder. >Charlton Heston is a famous actor,now quite elderly. Best known as >Moses in "the Ten Commandments". He is a Second Amendment and > > The Second Amendment means an amendment to the US Constitution that talks about the right to bear arms. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 18:59:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5QNxHe5014525 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:59:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:59:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CCF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 19:59:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:59:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5QNxFOn015588 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:59:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so138571nzb for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.2 with SMTP id y2mr3419339nzb; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:59:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VP/3MW1GQqwjyJjN6xXEUEXJs5b3LGtN6jS63CvmZhtLbZirCADKAI3OtVe0SDrLPnbkwNGdEUUvNSQPv1pkTmyfZXbvu/96lO5mBHLJ6yUyHmolLfF8D84oJrCQBU81vuYyI9NQeBQtiQpVWvqscH2/zh4CFCLmuEHibz/O4NQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506261659526e557d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:59:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fest and Brad Grissom memorial In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BEEE47.5020907@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5QNxGOn015590 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We still haven't seen it. I would like for it to be posted to the list. On 6/26/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > I don't have it. Steph in Lexington does, I think. I think abht sent > > it directly to her. > > No problem, I found it. Sorry for any trouble. > > Larry > > --- > Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com > The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com > Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon > Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:06:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R06qe5015510 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:06:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:06:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CD01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:06:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:06:51 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R06puh016235 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:06:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23071826 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:50:18 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:07:20 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:06:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <141598616.20050626180656@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062616276edf604a@mail.gmail.com> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062615562a3028f4@mail.gmail.com> <892456917.20050626170033@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062616276edf604a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=83964, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 5:27 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> I suppose. And it has the "feel good" aspect, >> which is fine wiht me, >> too. Of course there are plenty of ways murder >> is illegal under >> federal law, too. AFoA> I thought that hate crimes were generally federal. Right. So why do another, since a lynching is clearly a hate crime. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:08:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R08Ie5015659 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:08:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:08:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CB48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:08:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:08:18 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R08HXg016302 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:08:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23856259 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:33:08 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:08:46 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:08:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 240, in=87443, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 5:32 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I don't remember reading this on the list, but I NM> assume it's a reference NM> to Charlton Heston, an aged, alzheimer-ridden movie NM> actor, Alzheimer ridden? source? Not necessarily doubting, but haven't heard it before. Of course I know you disagree with his politics.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:10:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0AGe5015907 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:10:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:10:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE3E9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:10:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:10:16 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0AFdA016426 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:10:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24082335 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:10:32 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:10:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:10:21 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1639703019.20050626181021@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 238, in=86178, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 5:42 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>white people who thought that a black person had >>done something evil, >>such as raping or killing a white person. >> NM> Or sometimes even speaking to or looking at NM> inappropriately. I don't NM> think Emmett Till was accused of rape or murder. Right....which is why I said "such as" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:19:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0JJe5016940 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:19:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:19:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CD13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:19:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:19:13 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0JCU1017243 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:19:12 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:19:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:18:45 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'll take a stab at it. Diegesis (noun) diegetic (adjective) is a concept from rhetoric that was introduced to the list by Gilbert Smith as a description of his story telling style. It is the idea that the internal consisyency of a story is a kind of truth whether the story itself is in fact true. A good example of this would be science fiction. If the sci fi story is true to itself, it works as a story even though it includes ideas that are not true out of the context of the story. How did I do? BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 06/26/05 7:32 PM >>> Tanaka Akio wrote: > 1) Diegetic Oh dear. We need Giggles! I'll hold off on this one in hopes that somebody else has responded. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:19:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0JAe5016934 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:19:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:19:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CC61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:19:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:19:09 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0J8ZK017233 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:19:09 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so295680wri for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.38 with SMTP id 38mr2251241wro; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:19:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cHXQ7BIum7KiTQ9Uav8jexUe55Y8eWj3A2ads1yfpDeLI+38bBFQiOSDj0ZcmFGoaDRt686YwzoM+iw+i/VpUqvCAfzedK4W3N+3dFjkau8RKtCU6DWYWMrt2slb8DGwqbHXoL8RL7+cJq21fdwRnptFvn67Usmf5EVGUECJUN0= Message-ID: <83db447a05062617197097ac14@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:19:08 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5R0JAe5016934 On 6/26/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > TA> 4) Heston with a S&W 76 > > Charlton Heston is a famous actor,now quite elderly. Best known as > Moses in "the Ten Commandments". He is a Second Amendment and > National Rifle Association activist. S&W is Smith and Wesson is a > firearms manufacturer, and I assume it is a reference to a particular > weapon. I'm not up on firearms models. Heston is the president of the National Rifle Association, an organization devoted to maintaining the right (really, privilege) of any American citizen to hold and use any hand-held firearm irrespective of its primary purpose. Heston is Alzheimic and alcoholic and very much into his "Moses" role. He is wheeled out at every NRA convention, mutters something while holding a Winchester rifle, and the crowd goes into orgasmic ecstasy The S&W reference refers to a model of a handgun. Smith and Wesson as a handgun manufacturer is one of the two or three companies that occupy the religious pantheon of NRA members. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:32:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0WSe5018404 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CB5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:22:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:22:21 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0MKVP017525 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:22:20 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627002220.ZTVL2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:22:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627002220.KTGE11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:22:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF46B6.2000106@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:22:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha References: <83db447a0506261519371d713b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: > buddies for a long weekend during deer hunting season. They seldom came home >with a deer. They did have many empties to show for their weekend. I don't >think they left the cabin very often. > > Some serious deer-hunters also seem to enjoy the drinking part about as much as the hunting part. (Note that I said "some" -- there are no doubt non-drinking deer-hunters.) Part of the among some deer-hunters, serious or non-serious, seems to be the hanging out at the deer camp. They do serious hunting and serious drinking, though not at the same time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:32:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0WVe5018412 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CC78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:32:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:32:08 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0W8gk018297 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:32:08 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so313736wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.24.34 with SMTP id 34mr2910091wrx; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:32:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Pmwox6KCiXVVQCpgoae9j/0agal9tU97KlHnfHcBErjtmw7HPk4iEuLo6TnyVPCf41nCw++AQBSaXjWDIyAqLMWFM5DuD1KQwzz1Bc/WXWFB9g7HbEGQXvsL9po2VEM+spb1cN9y/2zhCC5UvKX7PIgzBJj3vlgWOv8wrNd/3yc= Message-ID: <83db447a0506261732566e1cf7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:32:07 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha In-Reply-To: <42BF46B6.2000106@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a0506261519371d713b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF46B6.2000106@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5R0WVe5018412 On 6/26/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Some serious deer-hunters also seem to enjoy the drinking part about as > much as the hunting part. (Note that I said "some" -- there are no > doubt non-drinking deer-hunters.) Part of the among some > deer-hunters, serious or non-serious, seems to be the hanging out at the > deer camp. They do serious hunting and serious drinking, though not at > the same time. I disagree. A "serious" drinker with a hangover (if indeed he has sobered up to that degree) with a loaded rifle is a very dangerous person---not to the deer, but to all humans within range. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:32:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0WSe5018408 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CD22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:23:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:23:59 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0Nx1v017743 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:23:59 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so279699wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.49 with SMTP id e49mr3097615wre; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:23:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mlidCNzAAzOtpsxs1RePCnTv4YNSGq91IsrMkvUnSfQ3T8TS5l0ciYOXiOB5u51m5A75CsD7SmYMK8hERQ1KEGiz1ydBWcmm52inZQLjpPK6OHH69ZJdNL8RfQ221zhYkKt3XBWboHHFsiToJ6KpDK3xh8e1XdbY4K87+tCaCsk= Message-ID: <83db447a05062617232336a8a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:23:58 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a0506261519371d713b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5R0WSe5018408 On 6/26/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > My personal experience of deer hunting comes from watching my brother > travel from southeastern Wisconsin to northern Wisconsin with a bunch of > buddies for a long weekend during deer hunting season. They seldom came > home > with a deer. They did have many empties to show for their weekend. I don't > think they left the cabin very often. Not to put too fine a point on it, but your brother was typical of the eastern shore Wisconsin city types who shouldn't have been allowed in the woods. I would not have hunted with him; in fact, I wouldn't have wanted to be in the same county as he and his bunch. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:32:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0WVe5018411 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CC75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:29:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:29:36 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0TaRf018095 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:29:36 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627002936.ZXPT2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:29:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627002936.KVJV11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:29:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF486C.7070702@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:29:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Has nobody replied yet re diegetic? Surely somebody can give a better explanation than I can of both the literary term and the Words-L use of the term. The literary term has been around for years but I think has shifted in meaning through the years. In recent years I think it has been used to refer to the created world that lives in the literary work -- the of that . Giggles (Gilbert Smith) talked about it on Words-L at some point in relation to some lit stuff he was doing, and the term developed a Words-L usage that was kind of a spin-off of its literary usage -- sort of like a Wordsler's created world. I'm doing a terrible job of explaining it. And I'm hungry. Need to go find sustenance. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:32:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0WSe5018407 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:32:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CD1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:23:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:23:20 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0NK5r017643 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:23:20 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627002320.ZUJE2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:23:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627002320.KTNE11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:23:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF46F5.9020407@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:23:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fest and Brad Grissom memorial References: <42BEEE47.5020907@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > No problem, I found it. Sorry for any trouble. No trouble. I'm really, really glad you're doing this. You will be an excellent representative. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:37:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0bae5019246 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:37:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:37:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CD31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:37:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:37:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0bYLR018598 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:37:34 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:37:34 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:36:56 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU :-( >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 06/26/05 8:29 PM >>> Has nobody replied yet re diegetic? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:55:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0tDe5021986 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:55:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:55:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CB8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:49:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4265147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:49:54 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0nrXB019481 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:49:54 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116037277 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:49:53 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626175039.02641320@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:51:26 -0700 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Glossary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.words-l.org/glossary.html These were fun to read again. I miss Myles. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:55:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0tDe5021989 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:55:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:55:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CC98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:52:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4265169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:52:51 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0qpBP019637 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:52:51 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005062700525001200jidqse>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:52:51 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: neat gadget Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:52:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > * In an atypical design uh-oh, my right hand brushes the laptop's > trackpad when I'm typing once in a while, which makes my mouse pointer > jump somewhere random on the screen. This is eliminated completely when > I can use the wireless mouse, because I tell the Mac to disable the > touchpad when a mouse is present, but still, it's a little disconcerting. That's the only fly in the Mac ointment for me. I like eraserhead mice. I hate touchpads. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:55:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0tDe5021984 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:55:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:55:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CD3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:46:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:46:36 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0ka5o019176 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:46:36 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116036834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:46:35 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626174653.027ceeb0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:48:08 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF486C.7070702@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <42BF486C.7070702@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:29 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote: >Has nobody replied yet re diegetic? Surely somebody can give a better >explanation than I can of both the literary term and the Words-L use of >the term. The literary term has been around for years but I think has >shifted in meaning through the years. In recent years I think it has >been used to refer to the created world that lives in the literary work >-- the of that . Giggles (Gilbert Smith) >talked about it on Words-L at some point in relation to some lit stuff >he was doing, and the term developed a Words-L usage that was kind of a >spin-off of its literary usage -- sort of like a Wordsler's created world. > >I'm doing a terrible job of explaining it. And I'm hungry. Need to go >find sustenance. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) http://www.words-l.org/glossary.html Diegetic. Embellished; said of a story or anecdote that's been enhanced for dramatic effect. The word has a specific meaning in film criticism, and this is explained every year or two by -ggs (Gilbert G. Smith). The explanation is always brilliant, and we all forget what he said. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 19:55:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R0tDe5021990 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:55:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:55:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CC88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:45:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4264891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:45:08 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0j5c2019018 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:45:06 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5R0D6fK009620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:13:06 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:13:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> Message-ID: References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Tanaka Akio wrote: > 1) Diegetic This goes back to many years ago on Words-L. It came to us from the late Wordsler Prof. Gilbert G. Smith (ggs). I believe the dictionary meaning has to do with the implied world in a work of fiction. For example, in the world of a Jane Austen novel, California and Japan exist (diegetically?) even though they may never be mentioned. But in some interaction involving Prof. Smith and his tale of a visit to New Orleans, Louisiana, the word diegetic came to signify, within Words-L, as referring to the addition of colorful, invented details to an otherwise truthful narrative, to "improve" or embroider upon the truth. Some Wordslers of that era probably define diegetic as "lying", but I think that is too extreme, and in any case, very far away from what the word means outside this group. > 2) anti-lynching legislation In the decades following the U.S. Civil War and Reconstruction (military occupation) period, African-Americans in the Southern states were sometimes ruthlessly oppressed, not allowed to vote or hold office, confined to segregated and inferior facilities, and so on. One of the most violent aspects of this period was the frequent occurrence of lynchings. I don't know the etymology of lynching (probably from someone named Lynch, just as the word "boycott" comes from a proper name), but in practice it meant that a black man accused of rape or murder of a white person, before any trial had taken place, would be dragged from his home or jail cell by an angry mob and choked to death by hanging him by his neck on a rope from a tree. I suppose the victim wasn't always black; there is one well known case where it happened to a Jewish man in Georgia. Under the circumstances of the time, the legal system in Southern states was unwilling or unable to control or assert any penalty for lynchings, so they occurred by the hundreds. Hence, there were attempts at the federal level to pass laws to control lynching, via statutes described as anti-lynching legislation. These were strongly resisted by congressional representatives from Southern states, and not enacted. Whether they would have made any actual difference is debatable. For example, the U.S. Constitution throughout this period contained the 15th Amendment, which guaranteed the right to vote, but no serious attempt was made to enforce this on behalf of African-Americans until the 1960s. Recently, Congress passed a resolution of apology for its past refusal (during 1877-1965 or so) to do something about lynching. > 3) Find-a-Grave Findagrave.com is a web site created and operated by Jim Tipton. (I know Jim because I started a site of somewhat similar scope at the same time, in 1996.) Its original mission was to catalog the burial locations of famous people, but it has since broadened to all burial locations. Natalie and probably thousands of other people take pictures of gravestones (permanent stone cemetery markers carved with the name, birth and death dates of the deceased person, typically) to be included on Findagrave. > 4) Heston with a S&W 76 Retired American actor Charlton Heston is a famous gun rights advocate. I presume S&W 76 refers to a specific model of gun made by manufacturer Smith & Wesson. > 5) Scientology The Church of Scientology was founded by L. Ron Hubbard (a science fiction writer), and has apparently gained quite a few followers. The organization is known for its peculiar world view (mental health professionals are seen as the essence of evil) and its abuse of copyright law to silence critics. > 6) Mapquest One of many geographic information service web sites which, given a street address anywhere in the U.S., will draw a map showing its vicinity, or more practically, will generate driving directions to get there. Unlike Japan, almost all streets and roads in the U.S. have names, or sometimes numbers, and each house or building along those streets has a unique "house number", generally arranged in order, with the even numbers on one side, and the odd numbers on the other side of the street. For instance, the house where I grew up in East Lansing, Michigan, was, at the time, 226 Haslett Street. Haslett Street (since renamed) was a street running north and south like a longitude line. Each section of the street, between intersections with other streets, is called a "block". The first block had numbers in the range 100 to 199; the second block where I lived had numbers in the range 200 to 299. Our house, 226, was on the east side of the street, which had even numbers. The house next door to the south was 220 Haslett Street, and the house next door to the north was 232 Haslett Street. Directly opposite, across the street, on the west side, were houses numbered 221 and 225. Practically every place in the U.S. is numbered in this way (sometimes with certain standard variations), and that makes sites like Mapquest possible. If you give it a house number, street name, city, and state, it almost instantly can come up with the coordinates of that location, based on a database of street names with ranges of house numbers. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:06:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R15oe5023564 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:05:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:06:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CC9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 20:55:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4265237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:55:45 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R0tiLt019860 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:55:45 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5R0tiEh010388 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:55:44 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:55:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fest and Brad Grissom memorial In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506261659526e557d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <42BEEE47.5020907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261659526e557d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > We still haven't seen it. I would like for it to be posted to the list. -----Original Message----- From: Anne Toal [mailto:mysterian@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:45 PM Cc: polygon@POTIFOS.COM Subject: My Memories of Brad Grissom Stephanie and Lawrence, I hope you might find this appropriate for Brad Grissom's memorial service. Please mail me if you have any suggestions or comments. -aht ------ My Memories of Brad Grissom by Anne Toal Back in the Dark Ages, that brief period in the development of the Internet before everything was pictures and music and video, we communicated by typing words on a cathode ray tube display. As more and more people began to get online, the net gradually woke up and became self-aware, and it began to ask questions about itself. Who are we? What do we like to talk about? Net denizens began to congregate in discussion groups sorted by common interests, and these groups were named according to the ostensible topic of discussion. One of these groups was named Words-L, and its putative reason for being was the discussion of the English Language. Its earliest members were professors and librarians, with a smattering of other university types. This was 1989, and everything on the net was just words glowing on a screen. There couldn't have been a more perfect place for Brad Grissom. In that low-bandwidth environment, where every byte was parceled out with an eyedropper, Brad's posts on Words-L were treasured by all. Words-L rapidly grew into a chatty, convivial place notorious for topic drift. The English Language was discussed, yes, but frequently the discussions were also about the number of egg slots in a refrigerator, or whether anyone had ever seen a headless chicken. In these fertile grounds Brad's creative juices flowed freely. Brad became one of the Words-L Giants, members whose influence was so pervasive, and whose postings were so wonderful that he permanently endeared himself to the group. His posts were, above all, profoundly human. He felt things deeply, and one suspects, painfully at times. On Words-L, Brad opened a corner of his soul up for public inspection. Another thing Brad did in his posts was show what it meant to be a Southern Gentleman in the late 20^th Century. He never did anything as obvious as instructing the reader that "such-and-such a thing happens like this because this is the South." But every post was embued with the same unique mixture of irony, sadness, and amusement that you can read in Faulkner and Welty. It flowed out of him naturally. No brag, just fact. Finally, Brad was a lover of words, books, and libraries. I remember one post where he worried that libraries were doomed by Barnes & Noble and Borders because they had coffee shops. He saw the new world coming and it wasn't entirely to his liking. He grieved over the loss of the card catalog. I don't know how he felt about the coming of computer labs to the university library. The net isn't the same place it used to be. The purity of words glowing on a CRT has been supplanted by videos, music, spam, and computer viruses. There will never be another place like Words-L either-there can't be. The world has changed too much since 1989, and we've lost one of our giants. Words-L will carry on, of course, and Brad will never be forgotten. We've got a web site to make sure that doesn't happen. I hope that in whatever kind of Heaven it is that librarians ascend to, Brad is sitting with a computer keyboard and a glass of cold beer, getting ready to post something to the heavenly host that'll have them all chattering and throwing comeback lines at each other for the next millennium of so. Why not? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:21:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1Kqe5025763 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:20:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:21:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CCC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:10:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4265813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:10:51 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1AoJ7021411 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:10:51 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005062701104801100n3me2e>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:10:49 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Sentences Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:10:41 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5R1ApJ7021412 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > 4) I would like you to be those whose work gives them pleasure. > > Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. I think you need an "among" in there, e.g. "I would like you to be among those whose work gives them pleasure." I know you're doing this for a purpose, but saying "I want you to like your job" seems much more succinct to me. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:21:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1Kqe5025765 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:20:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:21:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CCD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:19:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4265992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:19:40 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1Jd9T022080 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:19:39 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627011939.QRGP26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:19:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627011939.SJFJ29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:19:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:19:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> I don't remember reading this on the list, but I >NM> assume it's a reference >NM> to Charlton Heston, an aged, alzheimer-ridden movie >NM> actor, > >Alzheimer ridden? source? > > I thought it was -- something that needs no footnote. It was all over the news back when it was first announced. Iirc, he announced it himself -- a la Reagan. I don't remember exactly when that was. I do remember that it was not long before the party he came to at my RRB&SIL's house. I remember that because I remember my RRSIL's saying that she was not happy with the news -- that she wondered how the party was going to go. (This was something like one of the $2000-a-person fund-raisers that they've often hosted.) Anyway, at some point after that I was with them and asked how it went. They said that he was sad -- that already the alzheimers was quite apparent. When my RRB met him at the door and shook his hand, he said that CH had a glazed-over look in his eyes and said something about not being sure where he was. I can't remember how many years ago that was -- three or four maybe? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:21:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1Kqe5025767 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:20:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:21:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CD83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:20:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4266007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:20:23 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1KMrL022133 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:20:22 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j5R1KMj0020131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200506270120.j5R1KMj0020131@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: additional Fest details Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Betty Clark > Thanks. IMFTATL. I can't get Glimmerhouse Opera to co-operate with me. I don't know what your problems are with Glimmerhouse Opera --- but I think you want Glimmerglass Opera --- this is a wonderful house for seeing opera if you want to see & hear all --- and is quite close to Cooperstown. Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:31:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1V9e5026978 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:31:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:31:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CD90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:23:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4266275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:23:56 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1NuwP022799 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:23:56 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116042933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:23:55 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626182435.027ca7e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:25:28 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: additional Fest details In-Reply-To: <200506270120.j5R1KMj0020131@math.umb.edu> References: <200506270120.j5R1KMj0020131@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:20 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote: > > From: Betty Clark > > Thanks. IMFTATL. I can't get Glimmerhouse Opera to co-operate with me. > >I don't know what your problems are with Glimmerhouse Opera --- but I >think you want Glimmerglass Opera --- this is a wonderful house for seeing >opera if you want to see & hear all --- and is quite close to Cooperstown. > >Joan Yes, Glimmerglass. It keeps timing me out when I try to make reservations. Did you get your reservations made for Syracuse, Joan? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:31:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1V9e5026979 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:31:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:31:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CBCC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:21:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4266044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:21:04 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1L3l4022244 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:21:03 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627012103.QSIF26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:21:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627012103.SJOJ29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:21:03 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF547C.8070204@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:21:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <1639703019.20050626181021@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1639703019.20050626181021@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >>>white people who thought that a black person had >>>done something evil, >>>such as raping or killing a white person. >>> >>> >NM> Or sometimes even speaking to or looking at >NM> inappropriately. I don't >NM> think Emmett Till was accused of rape or murder. > >Right....which is why I said "such as" > > Somehow I don't think of things like whistling or looking at somebody as being on the "such as" level with rape and murder. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:35:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1Yte5027256 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:34:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:35:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CDA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:34:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4266741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:34:55 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1Ysc8024043 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:34:54 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627013454.QAYU2565.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:34:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627013454.OVTY13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:34:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF57BB.4070700@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:34:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > But in some interaction involving Prof. Smith and his tale of a visit to > New Orleans, Louisiana, the word diegetic came to signify, within > Words-L, > as referring to the addition of colorful, invented details to an > otherwise > truthful narrative, to "improve" or embroider upon the truth. Some > Wordslers of that era probably define diegetic as "lying", but I think > that is too extreme, and in any case, very far away from what the word > means outside this group. Good explanation. I should have held off on my feeble response. > of lynchings. I don't know the etymology of lynching (probably from > someone named Lynch, just as the word "boycott" comes from a proper > name), That's what I've heard. Somebody Lynch -- for whom Lynchburg, VA, is named? > his neck on a rope from a tree. I suppose the victim wasn't always > black; I can't give sources, but I've read that there have been a pretty good many lynchings of whites through the years (not as many as of blacks, of course, but far from absent). > Unlike Japan, almost all streets and roads in the U.S. have names, or > sometimes numbers, and each house or building along those streets has a > unique "house number", Don't forget that Akio spent a whole year in the US in high school, plus other visits. I'm sure he knows how our address system works. But I do think it would be hard for somebody Japanese to realize how extremely hard it is for people like me to keep from getting lost on nameless Japanese streets. :-) (Somebody had given me advice re Tokyo that I ignored at first but then started trying to follow -- never let yourself get out of sight of a train station unless you have LOTS of time for being lost.) Some cities in Japan do have streets with names -- Kyoto is one. And Tokyo is gradually adding street names. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:36:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1Zse5027359 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:35:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:36:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CDA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:35:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4266763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:35:53 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1Zr3d024215 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:35:53 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627013553.QBKT2565.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:35:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627013552.OVZY13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:35:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF57F5.4000803@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:35:49 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >How did I do? > > Beautifully! As I said to Larry, I will say to you also that I should've held off. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:37:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1bee5027546 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:37:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:37:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CDA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:37:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4266866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:37:39 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1bcPF024418 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:37:38 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE3FD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:37:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200506270137.j5R1bcPF024418@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:37:38 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: additional Fest details To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:22:36 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >Thanks. IMFTATL. I can't get Glimmerhouse Opera to co-operate with me. > >I better finish packing. Do you drink coffee? What kind do you like? > >Betty I do drink coffee. I'm partial to strong but light flavors - Ethiopian, Kenyan, and so on; and I am especially partial to cafe au lait. See you soon! clo > >At 12:25 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote: >>On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:15:23 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >> >> > How far away is Cooperstown? I want to go to the Glimmerhouse Opera >> >after the Baseball Hall of fame on Thursday, I think? >> > >> >Betty >> >>About 2 hrs (93 miles). >>Courtesy of Mapquest: >> From Carrier Circle, take Thomspon Rd south >> >> 7: Merge onto I-690 E. (~1-3 miles - clo ) >> 8: Merge onto I-481 N via the exit on the LEFT toward THRUWAY. 3.2 miles >> 9: Merge onto I-90 E / NEW YORK STATE TRWY E via EXIT 6 toward ALBANY >>(Portions toll). 57.8 miles >> 10: Take the RT-28 exit- EXIT 30- toward HERKIMER / MOHAWK. 0.4 miles >> 11: Turn LEFT onto MOHAWK ST / NY-28 S. Continue to follow NY-28 S. 0.6 >>miles >> 12: Turn LEFT onto COLUMBIA ST / NY-28. Continue to follow NY-28. 11.1 >>miles >> 13: Turn LEFT onto W MAIN ST / US-20 / NY-28. 0.4 miles >> 14: Turn RIGHT onto PROSPECT ST / NY-28. Continue to follow NY-28. 14.6 >>miles >> 15: Turn LEFT onto CHESTNUT ST / NY-80. 0.2 miles >> 16: Turn RIGHT onto MAIN ST / CR-31. 0.1 miles >> 17: End at Cooperstown, NY US >>clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:39:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1dGe5027722 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:39:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:39:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CDA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:39:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4266919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:39:16 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1dGD1024618 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:39:16 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627013915.QCUT2565.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:39:15 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627013915.OWYR13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:39:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF58C0.2040808@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:39:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha References: <83db447a0506261519371d713b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF46B6.2000106@maynor.net> <83db447a0506261732566e1cf7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506261732566e1cf7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> They do serious hunting and serious drinking, though not at >>the same time. >> >> > I disagree. A "serious" drinker with a hangover (if indeed he has sobered >up to that degree) with a loaded rifle is a very dangerous person---not to >the deer, but to all humans within range. > > I dunno. Having never gone deer-hunting, I am not in a position to say much. My comments are based on having been around deer-hunters all my life. But I think the meaning of might vary. Some I've known seem to have far less in the way of hangovers than do who drink a little bit. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:49:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1nke5028536 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:49:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:49:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CBEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:40:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4266948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:40:07 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1e4Vr024694 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:40:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE3FA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:40:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200506270140.j5R1e4Vr024694@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:40:04 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: FEST To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:16:54 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >> >>Somehow the translation stripped that line. Sorry! >>121 Victoria Place >>clo > > >Phone numbers? (315) 423-3948 and BrP's, posted w/ t-shirt info clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:49:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1nke5028534 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:49:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:49:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CCF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:39:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4266941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:39:46 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1djId024668 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:39:45 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627013945.QDBR2565.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:39:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627013945.OXCI13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:39:45 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF58DE.3030500@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:39:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >:-( > > >>>>natalie@MAYNOR.NET 06/26/05 8:29 PM >>> >>>> >>>> >Has nobody replied yet re diegetic? -- > > Nobody had at the time I wrote that! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:51:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1pae5028698 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:51:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:51:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CBF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:51:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4267164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:51:36 -0400 Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com (imo-m16.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1pZxZ026042 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:51:36 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.dc.28e58f2c (4539) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:51:32 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:51:32 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] New Gleanings (2) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/26/2005 5:53:45 PM Central Daylight Time, dan@GAILNDAN.COM writes: << TA> 5) Scientology Google it. It is a "religion" of sorts, started by the science fiction author L. Ron Hubbard, >> I sent in for some information about 15 years ago, and I still get a lot of mail from them. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:53:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1qpe5028791 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:52:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:52:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CDB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:52:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4267177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:52:51 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1qoeJ026079 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:52:51 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so291172wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.143.4 with SMTP id q4mr3135502wrd; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:52:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jyfYGMQOGixTJndnYJlSVv3rnXaDUDb+jI5gs7M+jTlMI7s8Zb038GIMjv1HmocTZcy1N4g5xIfyhDLW4iq2p4LwJFyv0yk9moyzk/SIxx36I521RdpJsRmtSnjJxHdZEOet1NQ3kVdUa1P0blASx+AS4ZGTL2aKi19XW29kDoQ= Message-ID: <83db447a050626185228e20af2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:52:50 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha In-Reply-To: <42BF58C0.2040808@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a0506261519371d713b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF46B6.2000106@maynor.net> <83db447a0506261732566e1cf7@mail.gmail.com> <42BF58C0.2040808@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5R1qpe5028791 On 6/26/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > I dunno. Having never gone deer-hunting, I am not in a position to say > much. My comments are based on having been around deer-hunters all my > life. But I think the meaning of might vary. Some > I've known seem to have far less in the way of > hangovers than do who drink a little bit. OK. Would you want any of those of whom you are aware piloting a plane you were on? If not, why would you want them near you in the woods when they had a loaded rifle? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:55:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1t8e5029072 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:55:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:55:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069CDBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:55:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4267273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:55:07 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1t6tw026172 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:55:07 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627015506.SBIC28027.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:55:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627015505.QTRH7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:55:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF5C76.5060909@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:55:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fest and Brad Grissom memorial References: <42BEEE47.5020907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261659526e557d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have I mentioned before that abht has ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 20:59:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R1x6e5029507 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:59:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:59:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CD12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 21:59:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4267392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:59:05 -0400 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R1x5UH026485 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:59:05 -0400 Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627015905.SDKG28027.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:59:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627015905.QUXM7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF5D66.20106@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:59:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Omaha References: <83db447a0506261519371d713b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57a9d$f79c7fd0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF46B6.2000106@maynor.net> <83db447a0506261732566e1cf7@mail.gmail.com> <42BF58C0.2040808@maynor.net> <83db447a050626185228e20af2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050626185228e20af2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >>I dunno. Having never gone deer-hunting, I am not in a position to say >>much. My comments are based on having been around deer-hunters all my >>life. But I think the meaning of might vary. Some >> I've known seem to have far less in the way of >>hangovers than do who drink a little bit. >> >> > OK. Would you want any of those of whom you are aware >piloting a plane you were on? If not, why would you want them near you in >the woods when they had a loaded rifle? > > Two points here: One is that I have said nothing about wanting them near me in the woods with a loaded rifle. The fact is that I don't want *anybody* near me in the woods with a loaded rifle. The other point is the answer to your first question: In thinking of who among people I know I would want to be piloting a plane I'm on, I would put some of the way ahead of some of the less serious drinkers or teetotalers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 21:35:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R2ZPe5001312 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:35:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:35:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CC3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 22:35:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4268121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:35:24 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R2Z70B029448 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:35:17 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5R2YOm4014106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:34:47 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:34:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF57BB.4070700@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF57BB.4070700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Don't forget that Akio spent a whole year in the US in high school, plus > other visits. I'm sure he knows how our address system works. How could I forget something I never knew? That must have come up before I became a Wordsler. > But I do think it would be hard for somebody Japanese to realize how > extremely hard it is for people like me to keep from getting lost on > nameless Japanese streets. I recall a step-by-step guide for finding a place in Tokyo (based on an address) in which two of the steps involved asking a policeman. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 21:36:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R2aVe5001464 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:36:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:36:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CD4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 22:36:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4268192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:36:30 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R2aTDa029650; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:36:30 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116056961; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:36:29 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626193747.027fc5c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:38:00 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Fest and Brad Grissom memorial In-Reply-To: <42BF5C76.5060909@maynor.net> References: <42BEEE47.5020907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261659526e557d@mail.gmail.com> <42BF5C76.5060909@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:55 PM 6/26/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Have I mentioned before that abht has ? > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yeah, I wish she would post more often. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 22:00:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R2xoe5004126 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:59:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:00:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE40E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 22:59:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4269170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:59:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R2xnNp031719 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:59:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so149884nzb for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.120.13 with SMTP id s13mr3506738nzc; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:59:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tjJQSRof1wL7Wf3Mwvy7u4RDCDDDGmjm/7Jmo1JH1jXHhv8EwZKUSZKXxmNG/yzYRM39UwW+wLfaLPoANX07CsHyYAMxfzcHDxKSsp5vtgoEORBmtF+btK0+jBUq0iWVERfC92WoU6jHG1n2xabTDF/l75K2LlxrxRV875QgDaM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:59:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5R2xnNp031721 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Or sometimes even speaking to or looking at inappropriately. I don't > think Emmett Till was accused of rape or murder. But he wasn't lynched, either. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 22:07:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R37be5005385 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:07:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:07:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CE6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 23:07:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4273153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:07:37 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R37aX8001279 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:07:36 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627030736.VXVD1983.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:07:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627030736.BDZR8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:07:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF6D75.9000002@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:07:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF57BB.4070700@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I recall a step-by-step guide for finding a place in Tokyo (based on an > address) in which two of the steps involved asking a policeman. I love police -- in every city. They're great people to ask directions of (or to join at a table at Chicago Fest if being followed by somebody sinister looking). Unfortunately I couldn't find a koban during some of my lost times in Tokyo. But I always managed to make it out of the lostness. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 22:09:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R39Fe5005543 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:09:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:09:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D02C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 23:09:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4273213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:09:14 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R39EVf001376 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:09:14 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.162.83]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627030914.VYJP1983.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:09:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.162.83]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627030913.BEIX8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:09:13 -0400 Message-ID: <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:09:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Or sometimes even speaking to or looking at inappropriately. I don't >>think Emmett Till was accused of rape or murder. >> >> >But he wasn't lynched, either. > > He wasn't?? Are you among those who think he's still alive? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 22:13:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R3Cte5005870 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:12:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:13:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE425A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 23:05:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4272679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:05:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R35aUi000928 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:05:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so150272nzb for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr3487812nzc; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:05:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=V1dZpjNOL/S3tnAVfdsc189w3+284VNVWPEzyFneALV0D4VgxV9rrhOnA2FNKJdVQkvAWjgzQ6zHIrB/lcYTRcmpswy8Gy7mAJM3znq06PZKcLWzelULAzQ+KC+4dmo6qOm1EVu5GuvF2OmUUXv2rdFCnn9u/2AZf8Tbnf0oeNQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050626200575ef9737@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:05:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Drive carefully, festers! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5R35aUi000929 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050626.wcrash0626/BNStory/National/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 22:13:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R3Cte5005869 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:12:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:13:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE418F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 23:02:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4271111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:02:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R32qjD032719 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:02:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so150082nzb for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.18 with SMTP id m18mr3486919nzb; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:02:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WeI8+WJ8DOOXxj/P+EaoO/ZXL71AbAnEdyyPI0B8xGa0s6nDbFpM1kYYM2TmVZB6lwyBAwY79e1yv9f/uFM0eGzxC+QL2JjvtoHY6VjUaAjL5zDOsrPIGq7yJDKsuZJmIuU5OCo/g4L7IelZS1Co+H8rVKhmJvZSv16ftJrnIfA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062620021ca1b1ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:02:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5R32rjD032721 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > 4) I would like you to be those whose work gives them pleasure. > > > > Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. > > I think you need an "among" in there, e.g. "I would like you to be among those whose work gives them pleasure." > > I know you're doing this for a purpose, but saying "I want you to like your job" seems much more succinct to me. But I don't think it's the same thing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 22:35:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R3ZEe5008169 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:35:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:35:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D051@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 23:25:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4273657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:25:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R3PCZb002834 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:25:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so151591nzb for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.49.2 with SMTP id w2mr3492449nzw; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:25:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KmKcJXpbRWcXa703dGyefCRJmNrdbJa+XftNDFk0x4JYFjpj3rrgIcoUPIjzMK6W/dtvuwcqv7UiVx8UyN4hJz54vQHdsbCYVaSGi+YQvM4bTlDGw8FOZFwHFzHKRzNeX3YNaKktiOLM5Hl6X5LbJ08q3nC0bPeKL0pU5+3jpCI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:25:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5R3PCZb002835 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>Or sometimes even speaking to or looking at inappropriately. I don't > >>think Emmett Till was accused of rape or murder. > >> > >> > >But he wasn't lynched, either. > > > > > He wasn't?? Are you among those who think he's still alive? I am seriously concerned about your brain. I didn't say that I think he's still alive, I said that he wasn't lynched. He was beaten and shot, but unless new evidence has revealed a lynching, there wasn't one. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 22:35:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R3ZEe5008171 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:35:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:35:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069CFA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 23:30:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4273760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:30:38 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R3Ucbl003267 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:30:38 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5R3Ub1i015975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:30:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:30:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> think Emmett Till was accused of rape or murder. >> >> But he wasn't lynched, either. > > He wasn't?? Are you among those who think he's still alive? Emmett Till was brutally beaten to death by a couple of guys. Probably the diagnostic criteria for lynching requires a "lynch mob" of at least three people, and hanging as the cause of death. Till's murder was surely part of the same phenomenon, oppression through violent retaliation against any perceived breach of the prescribed behavior norms. But Karen is correct that it was not strictly speaking a lynching, as that term is normally understood. Maybe someone could find the text of some of the proposed-but-not-enacted federal anti-lynching laws (from the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, etc.) to see if they would apply to this case. An unfunny full-page New Yorker cartoon from the 1920s shows an enthusiastic woman amidst a large crowd at night, hoisting a young girl up on her shoulders for a better view. "It's her first lynching!" she says. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 22:50:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R3nqe5009773 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:49:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:50:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D080@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 23:49:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4274197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:49:52 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R3nppp004824 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:49:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23084312 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:33:20 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:50:20 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:49:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: neat gadget In-Reply-To: References: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=84018, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 6:52 PM, Adam Hartfield wrote: AH> That's the only fly in the Mac ointment for me. I AH> like eraserhead mice. I AH> hate touchpads. Same here. Unfortunately no current Win laptops I know of have them. HP used to. But Dell doesn't. I can deal with touchpads, but am no fan of them. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 22:53:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R3r7e5010061 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:53:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:53:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D08E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 23:53:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4274328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:53:06 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R3r5T6005137 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:53:05 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23084445 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:36:35 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:53:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:53:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=84019, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 7:19 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I thought it was -- something NM> that needs no NM> footnote. It was all over the news back when it was NM> first announced. NM> Iirc, he announced it himself -- a la Reagan. OK. Must have missed it. My interest in the lives of celebrities is essentially zero. Imagine it was on The View or in People or whatever, but only time I see any such is when I'm waiting for my hairdresser, and she's almost always ton time. So that's pretty minimal. But as we know common knowledge isn't so common any more. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 22:58:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R3w6e5010664 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:58:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:58:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069CEEA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 26 Jun 2005 23:58:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4274548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:58:06 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R3w50C005515 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:58:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24095617 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:58:23 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:58:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:58:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1612129719.20050626215811@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF547C.8070204@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <1639703019.20050626181021@gailndan.com> <42BF547C.8070204@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 238, in=86222, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 7:21 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Somehow I don't think of things like whistling or NM> looking at somebody as NM> being on the "such as" level with rape and murder. Nor do I. But it was prefaced, if you'll recall with "something evil", which I imagine such stupid things were to the assholes who did lynchings and other awful shit. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 23:11:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R4B5e5012583 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:11:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:11:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D102@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 0:11:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4275157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:11:04 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R43CFm006221 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:03:12 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24016844 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:14:56 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:03:41 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:03:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1273779235.20050626220318@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF57BB.4070700@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF57BB.4070700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 241, in=100488, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 7:34 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> That's what I've heard. Somebody Lynch -- for whom NM> Lynchburg, VA, is named? Note the earlier punishments, which I'd not heard of....and that it may come from British usage....and lynching for gambling.... Here's what the OED says: trans. To condemn and punish by lynch law. In early use, implying chiefly the infliction of punishment such as whipping, tarring and feathering, or the like; now only, to inflict sentence of death by lynch law. 1836 Niles' Reg. 1 Oct. 69/1 Some personal friend of Mr. Bronx..proceeded to the mansion of judge Bermudez, with a view to Lynch him. 1839 MARRYAT Diary Amer. Ser. I. III. 240 It may appear strange that people should be lynched for the mere vice of gambling. 1856 EMERSON Eng. Traits (1857) 154 The prison was burst open by the mob, and George [of Cappadocia] was lynched, as he deserved. 1884 SIR L. H. GRIFFIN Gt. Repub. 151 It is..unreasonable to insist on the guilt of an unfortunate who has been lynched after an acquittal in open court. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 23:12:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R4Bse5012726 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:11:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:12:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D096@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 0:11:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4276047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:11:25 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R456TB006375 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:05:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23084991 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:48:36 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:05:36 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:05:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <20654415.20050626220513@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BF57BB.4070700@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF57BB.4070700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=84022, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 7:34 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I can't give sources, but I've read that there have NM> been a pretty good NM> many lynchings of whites through the years (not as NM> many as of blacks, of NM> course, but far from absent). There were certainly plenty of them of whites, hispanics, native americans, etc, in the "old west" (typically eighteenth century). One offense for which men were often lynched was horse thievery. Stealing a man's horse was often a sentence of death. Of course I'm sure they did plenty of them for other reasons as well. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 23:12:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R4C4e5012762 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:12:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:12:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE4455@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 0:12:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4276181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:11:29 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R47ssh006610 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:07:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24017052 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:19:39 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:08:24 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:08:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1071020149.20050626220801@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 241, in=100489, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 8:59 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Or sometimes even speaking to or looking at >> inappropriately. I don't >> think Emmett Till was accused of rape or murder. AFoA> But he wasn't lynched, either. Only if you assume that lynching only means hanging. As I just posted, it doesn't have that restriction. And certainly some in the west were by shooting....often because there weren't any trees around,and no one had any rope they wanted to waste. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 23:22:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R4MWe5014315 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:22:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:22:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D17C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 0:12:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4276216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:11:35 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R493Gp006745 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:09:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23085155 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:52:33 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:09:33 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:09:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <967266864.20050626220910@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 236, in=84023, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/26/2005, 9:25 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I am seriously concerned about your brain. I didn't AFoA> say that I think AFoA> he's still alive, I said that he wasn't lynched. He AFoA> was beaten and AFoA> shot, but unless new evidence has revealed a AFoA> lynching, there wasn't AFoA> one. Again, your limitation on the word is strictly yours, not that of the dictionary or other usages. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jun 26 23:28:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R4Sme5015107 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:28:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:28:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE44AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 0:28:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4276837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:28:47 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R4SkaQ008448 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:28:47 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5R4Siim006306 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:28:44 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j5R4ShL9006301 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:28:43 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5R4Sg7g031568 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:28:42 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j5R4SgtA031563 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:28:42 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j5R4SeGh021908 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:28:42 +0900 Message-ID: <021d01c57ad0$a99f9000$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF3C0B.305@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Sentences Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:28:21 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > 4) I would like you to be those whose work gives them pleasure. I'd say "among those whose work..." It's not exhaustive listing. Karen ------------------------- At first I was going to say that that didn't work at all -- but then I realized that English does in fact allow "you" to be plural. :-) I first read the above as singular "you," which wouldn't make sense. Either singular or plural "you" would work if you added something like "among" -- to be among those whose work gives them pleasure. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------- I think you need an "among" in there, e.g. "I would like you to be among those whose work gives them pleasure." I know you're doing this for a purpose, but saying "I want you to like your job" seems much more succinct to me. --Adam ------------------- Is the word 'among' absolutely necessary? Everybody seems to think so. Can 'you' (plural) not be just 'those whose.' (you = those)? And could you come up with more elegant sentences including 'those whose....'? Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 02:47:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R7l5e5001184 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:47:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:47:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D2E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 3:47:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4280765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:47:04 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R7l4Ta027508 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:47:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005062707470301400mbj6de>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:47:03 +0000 Message-ID: <42BFAEF5.7020301@istori.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:47:01 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry writes, > Probably the diagnostic criteria for lynching requires a "lynch mob" of at > least three people, and hanging as the cause of death. I would have guessed this too, but even in the dictionary hanging is not required; m-w: "to put to death (as by hanging) by mob action without legal sanction." > Maybe someone could find the text of some of the proposed-but-not-enacted > federal anti-lynching laws (from the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, etc.) to see if > they would apply to this case. Here's text from the Costigan-Wagner Act: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAcostiganwagner.htm > An unfunny full-page New Yorker cartoon from the 1920s shows an > enthusiastic woman amidst a large crowd at night, hoisting a young girl up > on her shoulders for a better view. "It's her first lynching!" she says. It's pretty scary just reading the reader comments about Philip Dray's book, "At the Hands of Persons Unknown : The Lynching of Black America": http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0375503242 Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:26:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R9Q1e5014981 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:26:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:26:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D17F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 5:01:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4281893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:01:54 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5R91q0K003103 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:01:53 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062711000818289 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:00:08 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:01:52 +0200 Message-ID: <42BFC07F.60908@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:01:51 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures of Cotswold trip References: <8865866a050624020065a53cde@mail.gmail.com> <42BBF63A.6080301@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BBF63A.6080301@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2005 09:01:52.0200 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC084480:01C57AF6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 24.06.2005 14:02: > Marcia Franzen wrote: > >> http://rayofsunshine.photosite.com/walkingholidays/CotswoldWay/ >> >> > Great pictures!! > Yes. Thank you very much! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:27:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R9Q1e5014984 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:26:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:27:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D275@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 4:44:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4281706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:44:21 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5R8iKxM001075 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:44:20 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062710423518227 ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:42:35 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:44:18 +0200 Message-ID: <42BFBC61.4070302@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:44:17 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: WHTUOTF References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050623083531.0269b0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050623083531.0269b0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2005 08:44:18.0758 (UTC) FILETIME=[6821C660:01C57AF4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Our plan last Thursday: 1. Go to the nearest marina and get some fuel 2. Go from there through one of the sounds where boats traditionally gather on Midsummer Eve 3. Go from there to a sheltered bay called Sandspollen, spend the night and go further south next day to meet my brother. In addition I aimed to take out my lenses before I went to sleep. Not everything went that way. We came close to the marina, but so did 20-30 other boats, and things were pretty chaotic. Not all the captaind were sober, either, so we decided to keep away. After all we had almost 40 liters of diesel, and we only use about a liter per hour. Thenwe headed out the fjord. That was an amazing experience - like a convoy or a fleet. Boats of every kind and size going south. At a place the flood of boats was divided: some headed straight out the fjord, and some took off westerly in between the islands. This was what we had supposed to do, and so I committed a serious error: I just followed the others without really checking with the chart where we were going. Thid doesn't mean that we were lost in the sense of not finding the way to the night's goal, but we did not go through the sound we had planned to go through but another one. And for some time I was confused as to exactly which islands we were going between. Since I had larger boats in front of me all the time until I knew again exactly where we were, this wasn't dangerous: they would hit something before we would. In any case the mistake led us to discover another set of sounds, full of boats where the midsummer party was starting up and also on land people wehere having parties down by the sea: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/sthansfest.jpg A fresh breeze was blowing from the south, and beacuse of this almost no bonfires were lit. Also, since there is a point wherethe two armes of the Oslo fjord meet, there was a lot of croppy sea wihere waves from SSE met waves from S. We kept sheltered by the islands as long as possible and then headed straight south into the wind and against the waves. By this time I had slept 4-5 hours all together over the last 48 hours, so I didn't react at once when the warning lamp was lit telling us that the battery loader didn't work - whether the problem was in the dynamo or elsewhere. But fianlly I realized and I phoned my brother - he these things. We decided to head on for that evenings goal, Sandspollen. When our diesel engine is running, we only need electricity to run the freshwater pump for the cooling system. We got to Sandspollen, found a nice place (or so we believed), and then i couldn't manage to get the left eye contact lense out. It came tothe point where I felt that I would only do things worse if I touched that eye any more, so I slept with the lens in. Next morning I stuck my head into a bucket of seawater for some minutes, and the lens came off quite nicely. Also, the engine started, so the combined starter/dynamo seemed OK. The system even seemed to be loading. But we wouldnot go further south with a boat we weren't sure of. Later that day I started the engine and tried to let it run for an hour to load up the battery, but after about 50 minutes the warning light came on again, meaning that I actually tapped the battery when the engine was running, so I turned the engine off. This in the end meant that we had to go back to Oslo the next day. But we spent one day and two nights in Sandspollen. In the late morning after we had had a swim (in all of 17 C) the bay wasn't that full: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/spollmrg.jpg Later, at night things started to get crowded: http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/spollkvld.jpg And this turned out to be both fun and a problem. In the early afternoon I sat and watched a couple doing some extremely complicated things to try get their boat in and tied up with feelings close to: "Look at how clumsy they are". And then I realized that we were grounded, that we had placed our boat just above a large rock and now at low tide we were stuck. I finally managed to get us moved some meters away from the stone, but then at night some people with a rather large sailing boat decided that they just had to go in and lie alongside us. And of course, when the wind changed at night, this larger boat started to push us back over the rock, and at 02 AM I felt and heard that we were getting in contact again, and had to rush out naked and try to drag us away from the rock. Since there was no loading at all Saturday morning - the warning light came on at once when I started the engine - we headed straight back to Oslo. A wonderful day on the fjord even if we were nervous as to whether we had enough left inb the battery to run the cooling pump all the way. I hate and detest those largish speedy boats and the waves they produce. People with money and horsepowers which amount to more than their IQ should be kept in closed areas. The final kick we received from the gods was when we were just going into our bay at the boat club: there was someone there. Someone had parked their sailing boat in our bay! (This was finally fixed.) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:27:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R9Q1e5014983 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:26:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:27:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D2F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 3:55:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4281045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:55:52 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5R7tprg028753 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:55:51 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005062707555001500bl703e>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:55:50 +0000 Message-ID: <42BFB104.70102@istori.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:55:48 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF57BB.4070700@maynor.net> <1273779235.20050626220318@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1273779235.20050626220318@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester writes, > Here's what the OED says: > > trans. To condemn and punish by lynch law. In early The thing to look up then is "lynch law," apparently so named after a Lynch in late 18th century Virginia, who made declarations that provided for corporeal (but not necessarily capital) punishment: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-lyn1.htm Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 04:48:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5R9mYe5016537 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:48:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:48:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D1A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 5:38:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4282236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:38:32 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5R9cVUA008785 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:38:31 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062711364618531 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:36:46 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:38:30 +0200 Message-ID: <42BFC917.2000202@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:38:31 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought References: <42BDF092.3050202@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BDF092.3050202@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2005 09:38:30.0764 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA7A82C0:01C57AFB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 26.06.2005 02:02: > Also transliteration of the names into the roman alphabet. Any help > appreciated. > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/1.jpg Alexandros I. Mistikos Born on Samos, Greece On the 23rd February 1888 Died in Jackson, Miss. On the 14th November 1955 > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/2.jpg Emanouel I. Mistikos Born on Samos, Greece On the 6th Sept. 1892 Died in Jackson, Miss. On the 2nd May 1945 > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/3.jpg Georgios Pouletsos (Here I have to check to make sure what it says, but Kynouria is, I believe a region - in any case he was born on April 17 1887 and died on September 4 1935 with no place given.) Born (I have to check choreion here) in the village of Paileta/Peleta (see the next stone, thise are just orthographic variants) in Kynouria (county or similar admin. unit), Greece On the date of the 17th April 1887 Died on the 4th September 1935 > > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/4.jpg > Kyriakos D. Pouletsos Born 5 June 1883 In Peleta. (In) Kynoria (county) Greece Died 6 April 1945 In Jackson. Miss. Espen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:12:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RACFe5019618 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:12:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:12:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE4724@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 5:42:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4282272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:42:11 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5R9g9ne009240 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:42:10 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062711402518548 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:40:25 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:42:09 +0200 Message-ID: <42BFC9F1.3080305@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:42:09 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2005 09:42:09.0265 (UTC) FILETIME=[7CB71E10:01C57AFC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot skrev 26.06.2005 04:08: >I'll leave more exact translation for the experts. I think it's >interesting that there are two different words for "died" apebiosen I >would guess has more of a "left life" sense and "apothane" more of an >"entered death" sense but it's been 40 years since I studied the >language so don't go by my word. > > > According to The Pocket Oxford Greek Dictionary "apobio" and "apothnisko" both means "die". It is dangerous sometimes to place too much on etymilogical roots. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:31:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RAUme5022525 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:30:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:31:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D220@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 6:30:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4283624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:30:41 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RAUfsJ015000 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:30:41 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:30:40 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:30:28 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes. It was just my own curiosity. Certainly there are several choices in English to say the same thing as well - died, passed away, etc. BrP >>> espen.ore@GMAIL.COM 06/27/05 5:42 AM >>> According to The Pocket Oxford Greek Dictionary "apobio" and "apothnisko" both means "die". It is dangerous sometimes to place too much on etymilogical roots. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:33:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RAWoe5022836 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:32:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:33:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D3DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 6:32:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4283676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:32:46 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RAWkmU015199 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:32:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:32:46 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:32:14 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU hmmm I'd have guessed hanging as a necessary element of lynching as well. I have learned something. BrP >>> kaminski@ISTORI.COM 06/27/05 3:47 AM >>> Larry writes, > Probably the diagnostic criteria for lynching requires a "lynch mob" of at > least three people, and hanging as the cause of death. I would have guessed this too, but even in the dictionary hanging is not required; m-w: "to put to death (as by hanging) by mob action without legal sanction." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:47:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RAlje5024731 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:47:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:47:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE4803@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 6:47:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4284013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:47:44 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RAlhAW017006 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:47:44 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so331615wra for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.137.16 with SMTP id k16mr466782wrd; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:47:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CQIErhtqoVTnW+ngR/vS1HhyGk/wB7UI1J+IW51hisy3gXcDmrg9aPuXGKcCkE5MDHYxXUYMGYU/zcQXEUKcDX7St0zsroVcuncrGRG8EI1nPvL06Cq/gyLHhP/Q0H5DgNIwYF3WgYeZNFdPOvPo5IKVvr94YnwBcS3s8qk1pGE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:47:43 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTUOTF In-Reply-To: <42BFBC61.4070302@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050623083531.0269b0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42BFBC61.4070302@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5RAlje5024731 > > Later, at night things started to get crowded: > > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/spollkvld.jpg > Espen > Sounds like an adventure. Why are the trees so brightly colored in the above photograph? Is that just the setting sun glinting off of tree tops? It looks like fall foliage! -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 05:55:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RAtAe5025485 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:55:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:55:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE47F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 6:55:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4284082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:55:08 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5RAt7Vr017632 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:55:08 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062712532218785 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:53:22 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:55:06 +0200 Message-ID: <42BFDB0A.9030608@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:55:06 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTUOTF References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050623083531.0269b0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42BFBC61.4070302@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2005 10:55:06.0540 (UTC) FILETIME=[ADC646C0:01C57B06] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev skrev 27.06.2005 12:47: >>Later, at night things started to get crowded: >> >>http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2005/spollkvld.jpg >>Espen >> >> >> > Sounds like an adventure. Why are the trees so brightly colored in the >above photograph? Is that just the setting sun glinting off of tree tops? It >looks like fall foliage! > > Yes, it is the setting sun, when the light has very much red in it. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 06:49:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RBnZe5000606 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:49:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:49:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE48A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 7:49:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4285450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:49:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RBnY3B015555 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:49:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so197668nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr2630157nzx; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:49:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=p3LZGAxU5ccEkPAcYAxaGPuyZNMNIqSBPFtmf2btOmFnH6/rSJYvYUxasptjG7Dpc61wU8TVyepkP+6quEnT7i4l6pZrMUDlFUqtnuVvDkVwjgSDTlkHmV1TEZ6BSEarjRxgoLWJvppSU3o4SAAnvcVpM6UmnxlzTzcAIjVMXH4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506270449478f99b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:49:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <021d01c57ad0$a99f9000$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF3C0B.305@maynor.net> <021d01c57ad0$a99f9000$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RBnY3B015560 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Tanaka Akio wrote: > Is the word 'among' absolutely necessary? Everybody seems to think so. I think you answered your own question. > Can 'you' (plural) not be just 'those whose.' (you = those)? Sure. But not in this case. You don't want the people you're addressing to be the only ones whose jobs bring them pleasure. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 06:50:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RBoOe5000717 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:50:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:50:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE48A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 7:50:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4285485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:50:24 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RBoNah015756 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:50:24 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so186641nzb for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr3716608nzb; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:50:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CFKT+Bjm7rNdzJhdVmN3uik9lMHLNqZcS2NQqJzq8gInwpeZ8ExT/aL9ryFf5W9xz4+MYjfON+wqcpcjdbyTWlBVBzOxrNgCKX3+MioNRpkrXj0QhiTpLYj0pkTOvyWLjDKdvq8ZQldofPWbQ9fD3CC7s59INClNSU+TokbYW8M= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062704507d7b58a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:50:23 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: neat gadget In-Reply-To: <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RBoOah015757 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/26/2005, 6:52 PM, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > AH> That's the only fly in the Mac ointment for me. I > AH> like eraserhead mice. I > AH> hate touchpads. > > Same here. Unfortunately no current Win laptops I know of have them. IBM. It's their patent, I think. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 06:53:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RBqne5001014 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:52:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:53:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE48AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 7:52:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4285572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:52:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RBqlMg016042 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:52:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so186840nzb for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.49.2 with SMTP id w2mr3722998nzw; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:52:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nqoTIgrEhSGUdLaCISlHWtCcU+1Bujlwt2mw1RHKoN+zkGei0W1hQCsZXr1WRaSLTi3LxR+q2jTh1AADtfpPBq4+bscZsnhKuwI+y7zZPgn7Ar4dOj37lVvqCPxesJe4n36r783mjahK8DPhBKdVFLDakoI5NoOoZ3bA7LaTaio= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062704525935cb61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:52:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <1071020149.20050626220801@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <1071020149.20050626220801@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RBqmMg016043 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/26/2005, 8:59 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> Or sometimes even speaking to or looking at > >> inappropriately. I don't > >> think Emmett Till was accused of rape or murder. > > AFoA> But he wasn't lynched, either. > > Only if you assume that lynching only means hanging. Um, no. As Larry noted, it requires a mob. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 06:54:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RBsIe5001234 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:54:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:54:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D3C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 7:54:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4285634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:54:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RBsEqk016187 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:54:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so189771nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.32.11 with SMTP id f11mr3750833nzf; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:54:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PdBwPeCVqgk3gJkDS53nx7MhtbLBTwla374g8ze83KTwG8BJsVeOqUEL+roFYywEFZQJuXv2qoubvHzRFYtusAg2M2ZW1G3Lkg03Rx/LbfH9WnHyZHCMRuFe0elGe9OXkxW0fuMtiwG11S52VFt+Gb1xJxpLGW4cX3zpVbkqwno= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062704547a56c507@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:54:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <967266864.20050626220910@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> <967266864.20050626220910@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RBsEqk016188 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/26/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/26/2005, 9:25 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> I am seriously concerned about your brain. I didn't > AFoA> say that I think > AFoA> he's still alive, I said that he wasn't lynched. He > AFoA> was beaten and > AFoA> shot, but unless new evidence has revealed a > AFoA> lynching, there wasn't > AFoA> one. > > Again, your limitation on the word is strictly yours, not that of the > dictionary or other usages. Again, you are full of shit. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 07:18:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RCHwe5004376 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:17:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:18:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE48AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 8:17:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4286279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:17:57 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RCHsBE018575 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:17:55 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 97550589; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:15:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42BFEE72.7030605@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:17:54 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rita Leonard CC: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> <42BFECE9.1050901@maynor.net> <42BFEDA1.50802@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42BFEDA1.50802@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This may not have gone through the first time because it contained some html code. Trying again. Apologies if it is duplicated. > > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >> >>> Probably the diagnostic criteria for lynching requires a "lynch mob" >>> of at >>> least three people, and hanging as the cause of death. >> >> >> I am very much surprised at that last part -- the part about hanging. > > I have just "tuned in" to this discussion and have to admit that I > also assumed that "lynching" was hanging. I have been wrong for a > long time. > >> lynch >> tr.v. lynched, lynch·ing, lynch·es >> >> To execute without due process of law, especially to hang, as by >> a mob. >> > Rita L. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 07:18:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RCI0e5004380 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:18:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:18:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D499@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 8:07:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4286018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:07:59 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RC7x5t017483 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:07:59 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.129.67]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627120759.XOEF26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:07:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.129.67]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627120759.VWOX29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:07:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42BFEC1B.2060801@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:07:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>>But he wasn't lynched, either. >>> >>> >>He wasn't?? Are you among those who think he's still alive? >> >> >I am seriously concerned about your brain. I didn't say that I think >he's still alive, I said that he wasn't lynched. He was beaten and >shot, but unless new evidence has revealed a lynching, there wasn't >one. > > I don't understand why you are saying he wasn't lynched. Is it because the majority of lynchings of blacks by whites have involved hanging? I've never assumed that the method of the murder (as in the actual inflicting of the death) was part of the definition of lynching. I thought lynching meant vigilante tactics of non-law people deciding they disapproved of what somebody did and going and grabbing that person and killing him. Certainly people around here say that Emmett Till was lynched. He is often cited as Mississippi's most famous lynching. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 07:18:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RCI0e5004384 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:18:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:18:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D4A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 8:14:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4286216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:14:40 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RCEeBQ018260 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:14:40 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.129.67]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627121440.XSIX26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:14:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.129.67]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627121439.VYUX29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:14:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42BFEDAC.3010406@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:14:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >NM> Iirc, he announced it himself -- a la Reagan. > >OK. Must have missed it. My interest in the lives of celebrities is >essentially zero. Imagine it was on The View or in People or >whatever, but only time I see any such is when I'm waiting for my >hairdresser, and she's almost always ton time. So that's pretty >minimal. > > It was in the same kinds of news sources as Reagan's announcement of his alzheimers was, though obviously not quite that prominent since Heston wasn't quite that famous. I've never heard of The View and have never read People. I learned about it from my usual sources of news -- mainstream sources like CNN (online usually, though occasionally on tv), CBS, local and national newspapers, news magazines. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 07:18:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RCI0e5004383 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:18:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:18:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D3EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 8:11:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4286066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:11:25 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RCBPZN017865 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:11:25 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.129.67]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627121125.XQPU26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:11:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.129.67]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627121125.VXRY29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:11:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42BFECE9.1050901@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:11:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > Probably the diagnostic criteria for lynching requires a "lynch mob" > of at > least three people, and hanging as the cause of death. I am very much surprised at that last part -- the part about hanging. As I said, people around here don't use the term "lynch" that narrowly. But the part about the number of people involved might make a difference. If just one person did it, I don't think I would call it a lynching. Maybe two wouldn't be enough either -- though, as I said, I'm certainly not alone in thinking that Emmett Till was lynched. Plenty of people use that term when talking about his murder. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 07:39:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RCcve5007829 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:38:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:39:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D4B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 8:18:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4286307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:18:56 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RCIuSJ018658 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:18:56 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.129.67]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627121856.XUOP26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:18:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.129.67]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627121856.WAHE29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:18:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42BFEEAC.4060309@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:18:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have no idea what "Charity Wire" is -- am not suggesting it's exactly . But it happened to be the first hit when I just googled for 'heston alzheimers announcement' -- and now I know the when: August 2002: ************************* Thursday, 8 August 2002 Charlton Heston demonstrated great strength and courage in announcing today that he may have Alzheimer's disease. His actions today have provided inspiration and support to the millions of families caring for people with Alzheimer's. ************************* from: http://www.charitywire.com/charity3/03281.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 07:39:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RCcve5007830 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:38:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:39:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D2FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 8:24:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4286380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:33 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RCOXpQ019165 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:33 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.129.67]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627122433.XYZE26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.129.67]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627122433.WCLK29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:33 -0400 Message-ID: <42BFEFFD.6000200@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:24:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU CBS is pretty : http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/23/entertainment/main526595.shtml And The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/2002/newsmakers/0208/19/a02-565500.htm Here's what USA Today said: Charlton Heston made his announcement at a televised news conference. from: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2002-08-19-alzheimers_x.htm Etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 07:39:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RCcve6007829 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:39:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:39:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D428@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 8:34:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4286806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:34:54 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RCYrXo020338 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:34:53 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.19.129.67]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627123454.XDGK2460.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:34:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.19.129.67]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627123453.VWGS25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:34:53 -0400 Message-ID: <42BFF26A.4070306@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:34:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF3C0B.305@maynor.net> <021d01c57ad0$a99f9000$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: <021d01c57ad0$a99f9000$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tanaka Akio wrote: [ 4) I would like you to be those whose work gives them pleasure.] > Is the word 'among' absolutely necessary? Everybody seems to think so. > > Can 'you' (plural) not be just 'those whose.' (you = those)? I think as a general statement -- like you're giving a pep-talk to your students -- it would be odd to say it that way. I can, as usual, imagine situations where it might be the normal wording -- like maybe the previous sentence was something like this: "The students who graduate from this university next week will fall into two categories in their careers: those unhappy with their work and those whose work gives them pleasure. I would like you [my particular students or whoever] to be those whose work gives them pleasure." Actually, though, I think "among" would still sound better. As Karen (I think it was Karen) said, without the "among" it sounds exclusive -- that they were the only people whose work would give them pleasure. > And could you come up with more elegant sentences > > including 'those whose....'? This is fun -- I love your gleanings/sentences postings. I need to go put the garbage out right now, though. Will be back to play more in a little while. (But don't y'all let me do too much computer playing today! I've got tons and tons of stuff I need to do before departure for Festing.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 08:23:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RDMoe5013764 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:22:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:23:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE49C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 8:52:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4287879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:52:48 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RCqmt0022817 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:52:48 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-29.gwi.net [216.195.166.29]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5RCqhkJ037314; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:52:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627083305.01bf6758@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:33:25 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BFEFFD.6000200@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> <42BFEFFD.6000200@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:24 AM 6/27/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >CBS is pretty : Perhaps not in Boise... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 08:25:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RDOie5014017 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:25:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D56D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 9:07:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4289251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:07:08 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RD77pw025827 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:07:08 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so395179wri for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.5.47 with SMTP id 47mr3432389wre; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:07:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Qk/7E9TchxAy7NG14Gpq2CNHrTj6MF0Aa9/k2BsLdp5McJ+L+T5vZkJbSwFWR3gXj8tOdmV+E16wjq/Ekum/Lv2OREjmwcKSf5WLw4o33HkF4Nj/a8H0Z+T13Uql1HKf4JqPlBL/plDLYsjm6nnntBT3Ypc5pMJBlwOuW1mBBD0= Message-ID: <8865866a0506270607455f9a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:07:07 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Summer has come to Norrbotten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RD78pw025831 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was just at the mega grocery store outside of Luleå and it was filled with Norwegians. I wouldn't mind so much if they knew how to drive... (Sorry Espen!) Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 08:25:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RDOie5014018 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:25:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D5CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 9:15:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4290943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:15:14 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RDFDV4027527 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:15:14 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so379174wra for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.76.6 with SMTP id y6mr3431085wra; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:15:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f4fKYEJHW4ccedmt+gc/IO1Y2Tl3BJeoMGmNifEfKPuTWC+NWtS5Bu/L42L/z8G4ZDUJJ/nKvF4J66CTXSx3jg0D8cnWJb5xcM/ywpuBUNo0fO4h8XWiOgXV8rm3Q7cqQ/DBkUrAbUpC9awtbKL/zyok1hycshPU1u1xAA6Sy6A= Message-ID: <8865866a05062706153c5e8d38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:15:13 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTUOTF In-Reply-To: <42BFBC61.4070302@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050623083531.0269b0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42BFBC61.4070302@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RDFEV4027528 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Not everything went that way. We came close to the marina, but so did > 20-30 other boats, and things were pretty chaotic. Not all the captaind > were sober, either, so we decided to keep away. After all we had almost [snip] Remember Espen - om gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi swaha. Either that or stop reading my travel diaries because my luck is rubbing off on you! Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 08:25:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RDOie5014015 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:25:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D58B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 9:12:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4289724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:12:41 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RDCfwo026886 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:12:41 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [136.167.88.178]) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 103068589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:13:17 -0400 Message-ID: <42BFFB48.8030002@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:12:40 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: neat gadget References: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >6/26/2005, 6:52 PM, Adam Hartfield wrote: > >AH> That's the only fly in the Mac ointment for me. I >AH> like eraserhead mice. I >AH> hate touchpads. > >Same here. Unfortunately no current Win laptops I know of have them. >HP used to. But Dell doesn't. I can deal with touchpads, but am no >fan of them. > > > My Dell D600 has both, as does the D610 that we are selling to students this year. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 08:25:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RDOie5014012 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:24:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:25:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D567@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 9:04:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4289122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:04:43 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RD4fTE025409 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:04:41 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-29.gwi.net [216.195.166.29]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5RD4bt6039060; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:04:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627083859.01c09f98@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:56:49 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTUOTF In-Reply-To: <42BFBC61.4070302@gmail.com> References: <200506151707.j5FH7MRG009324@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20050623083531.0269b0b0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42BFBC61.4070302@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:44 AM 6/27/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >...This was what we had supposed to >do, and so I committed a serious error: I just followed the others >without really checking with the chart where we were going. Thid doesn't >mean that we were lost in the sense of not finding the way to the >night's goal, but we did not go through the sound we had planned to go >through but another one. And for some time I was confused as to exactly >which islands we were going between. As we sailed the coast, I often had that thought, i.e., the islands could become a maze. > Since I had larger boats in front >of me all the time until I knew again exactly where we were, this wasn't >dangerous: they would hit something before we would. Excellent strategy. >... Next morning I stuck my head into a bucket of seawater for some minutes... My first reaction to this sentence was: Hmmm--Espen has learned how to breathe under water. >People with money and horsepowers which amount to more than their IQ >should be kept in closed areas. I feel the same way when I am kayaking. There is one harbor here that I will never paddle in again---despite the "no-wake" signs, the water often is a maelstrom. >The final kick we received from the gods >was when we were just going into our bay at the boat club: there was >someone there. Someone had parked their sailing boat in our bay! Well, you got back OK and will be able to sail again, so it was a successful cruise. cwv By boat---the only way to see a country. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 08:26:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RDQIe5014164 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:26:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:26:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D55B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 9:26:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4292272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:26:18 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RDQIJp030287 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:26:18 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:26:17 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:26:05 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: lynching, Till - WLM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In the course of looking up some other information, I came across the site at Abbeville Press for "The Civil Rights Movement A Photographic History" which has a chronology of major events. It includes the following: 1955 August 28 Emmett Till, a Chicago youth visiting relatives in the South, is lynched in Money, Mississippi, after he flirts with a white shopkeeper. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 09:18:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5REIbe5020610 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:18:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:18:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D6A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 9:58:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4294409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:58:36 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RDwZno003961 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:58:35 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D4EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 9:58:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200506271358.j5RDwZno003961@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:58:34 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:55:48 -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Dan Lester writes, > >> Here's what the OED says: >> >> trans. To condemn and punish by lynch law. In early > >The thing to look up then is "lynch law," apparently so named after a >Lynch in late 18th century Virginia, who made declarations that provided >for corporeal (but not necessarily capital) punishment: > >http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-lyn1.htm > >Pete But since it's not just an abstraction, here are some of the victims: http://ccharity.com/lynchlist.php clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 09:25:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5REP0e5021622 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:25:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:25:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D589@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:25:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4295615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:25:00 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5REErkL007169 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:14:54 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24114251 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:15:11 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:15:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:14:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: Dan Lester Organization: RiverOfData.com Message-ID: <818638924.20050627081452@riverofdata.com> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Fwd: FW: Talk Show Rarity: A True Believer's Candor In-Reply-To: <48F1819CF0FBFC438A9A2771BBC5BAAF04971522@exchsrv3.intra.camosun.bc.ca> References: <48F1819CF0FBFC438A9A2771BBC5BAAF04971522@exchsrv3.intra.camosun.bc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=86304, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, this covers some more about Scientology.....and more in the link from the msg. dan This is a forwarded message From: Peter Montgomery To: 'popcult@camosun.bc.ca' Date: Sunday, June 26, 2005, 10:51:29 PM Subject: FW: Talk Show Rarity: A True Believer's Candor ===8<==============Original message text=============== From: Monty Solomon Talk Show Rarity: A True Believer's Candor By ALESSANDRA STANLEY June 25, 2005 So that's what Tom Cruise really looks like. He is a passionate, stubborn, true believer, who can lecture Matt Lauer about the perils of Ritalin, psychiatry and talk-show-host glibness. Whatever else it may do - or undo - for the movie star, Mr. Cruise's off-message, antidrug performance on "Today" yesterday on NBC cleared up one misconception about L. Ron Hubbard's mysterious church: Scientology does not command loyalty from celebrities by protecting their privacy and whitewashing their image. Mr. Cruise seemed unbound, and perhaps even a little unsound, but there was something enjoyably bracing and bold about his outburst. It was as jarring as his crazy-in-love ode to the actress Katie Holmes on Oprah Winfrey's show last month, and that was perhaps the most e-mailed video clip since the Howard Dean Scream. But this latest display of kookiness lent the actor new credibility: his over-the-top declarations of love may look to some like a publicity stunt, but there was nothing self-serving or career-enhancing about his rant with Mr. Lauer. ... http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/25/arts/television/25watc.html?ex=1277352 000&en=59195a9107294550&ei=5090 ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 208-283-7711 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.gailndan.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 09:45:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5REjje5024236 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:45:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:45:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D721@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:45:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4298041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:45:45 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5REjiwE012694 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:45:44 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24038291 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:57:33 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:46:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:45:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <573663105.20050627084543@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BFB104.70102@istori.com> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF57BB.4070700@maynor.net> <1273779235.20050626220318@gailndan.com> <42BFB104.70102@istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 241, in=100606, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 1:55 AM, Peter Kaminski wrote: PK> The thing to look up then is "lynch law," apparently so named after a PK> Lynch in late 18th century Virginia, who made declarations that provided PK> for corporeal (but not necessarily capital) punishment: PK> http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-lyn1.htm Thanks. Not a site I'd run across before. Of course I find it particularly ironic that they use the term "lynch law" for that which is outside the law. Yes, I know there are other similar usages of the word "law". But it does show that it wasn't the guy from Lynchburg VA or other US sites....unless the guy came over with Columbus's 2nd or 3rd trips.... dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 09:53:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RErqe5025067 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:53:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:53:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D760@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:53:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4298879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:53:51 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RErk6q014398 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:53:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23107045 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:37:24 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:54:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:53:46 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <67989422.20050627085346@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: neat gadget In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062704507d7b58a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062704507d7b58a2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 237, in=84122, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 5:50 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Same here. Unfortunately no current Win laptops I know of have them. AFoA> IBM. It's their patent, I think. Well, guess that means I won't be getting one with the eraser head. Speaking of pointing devices.....some laptops come with "mini mice". Personally I detest them. I have a USB "real mouse" for my laptop, which I use when the laptop isn't literally on my lap. But somehow a couple of staff members learned about minimice, apparently from home laptops or elsewhere. Now at least half of the technical service staff have insisted that they can't live without minimice, so we're buying bunches of the damn things. Any clues as to why, other than "they're cool" or "Mary has one so I want one" or otherwise? Flat panel monitors, and bigger monitors, I understand desire for, but minimice? dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 10:25:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RFOue5030208 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:24:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:25:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D65B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:54:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4298973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:54:55 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5REssid014646 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:54:55 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23107176 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:38:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:55:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:54:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1309135408.20050627085454@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062704547a56c507@mail.gmail.com> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> <967266864.20050626220910@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062704547a56c507@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 237, in=84123, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 5:54 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> Again, your limitation on the word is strictly yours, not that of the >> dictionary or other usages. AFoA> Again, you are full of shit. Well, if you don't wish to accept the other dictionary definitions that have been cited, that's fine. But your disbelief doesn't make ME full of shit. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 10:25:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RFOue5030209 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:24:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:25:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D7A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:05:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4299895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:05:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RF5T48017081 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:05:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so211313nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.4 with SMTP id q4mr1517892nzq; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:05:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eElDKL6BQ4e8xRLYUH4KnP41Sq+YxncuAugaIU9zBHVTlwzxW8Mp+EajYQUUVcpubumXHlF+hRkUqkmmvwHGzE4y3me5CPxe9mkDImCjqULO4Pah3xBO+3JVccMlh2IxJVhO/chAlv0pXSxDngSPaQLZT6+40kvR5IlNIDG46dE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062708055bb772d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:05:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <1309135408.20050627085454@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> <967266864.20050626220910@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062704547a56c507@mail.gmail.com> <1309135408.20050627085454@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RF5T48017087 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/27/2005, 5:54 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> Again, your limitation on the word is strictly yours, not that of the > >> dictionary or other usages. > > AFoA> Again, you are full of shit. > > Well, if you don't wish to accept the other dictionary definitions > that have been cited, that's fine. But your disbelief doesn't make ME > full of shit. What makes you full of shit is your claim that my definition, which I haven't provided, is idiosyncratic. It makes you full of shit to claim that are reading my mind. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 10:25:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RFOue5030210 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:24:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:25:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D6B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:08:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4300167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:08:23 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RF8NxO017627 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:08:23 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so220451nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.18 with SMTP id h18mr1016536nzc; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:08:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TqoU7BxjxWY5qdup/AgUWl4yaD8BD7tp0nyoW/WgUlvdb3qSyIB1GWQ2N8HHK+MQWfcTPcuedjOhgmUmGOeGjx00bTinGgWyZ7YmLEzJrVdRgLJG/abVbZ3Ni/X3kOLfyMD7Os3Mcc+qg5Zwpi3zjdESZM1HcPylkevQ7ljlR4s= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062708082ef80f51@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:08:22 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: neat gadget In-Reply-To: <67989422.20050627085346@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062704507d7b58a2@mail.gmail.com> <67989422.20050627085346@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RF8NxO017629 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: > But somehow a couple of staff members learned about minimice, > apparently from home laptops or elsewhere. Now at least half of the > technical service staff have insisted that they can't live without > minimice, so we're buying bunches of the damn things. Wow! I've always had to buy my own Alternative Pointing Device. You guys are generous. > Any clues as to why, other than "they're cool" or "Mary has one so I > want one" or otherwise? Flat panel monitors, and bigger monitors, I > understand desire for, but minimice? Easier on the hand? I dunno; I use a mouse only under duress. The last time was months ago. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 10:37:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RFbIe5031646 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:37:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:37:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D760@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:37:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4302727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:37:17 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RFbHKK023145 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:37:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24123873 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:37:34 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:37:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:37:16 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1565464248.20050627093716@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BFEDAC.3010406@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> <42BFEDAC.3010406@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=86360, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 6:14 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> It was in the same kinds of news sources as Reagan's announcement of his NM> alzheimers was, though obviously not quite that prominent since Heston NM> wasn't quite that famous. I've never heard of The View and have never Well, I've never watched it, but it is one of those shows (there must be a dozen) about celebrity bullshit. NM> read People. I learned about it from my usual sources of news -- Well, you've probably seen it on the newsstands in the grocery store or wherever. Same kind of crap, with some "human interest" stuff thrown in like "girl survives shark attack" or "man loses 400 pounds" or whatever. NM> mainstream sources like CNN (online usually, though occasionally on tv), NM> CBS, local and national newspapers, news magazines. Well, must have napped through it. As noted in beginning, I wasn't particularly doubting it, just hadn't heard about it. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 10:56:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RFtpe5001640 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:55:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:56:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE513F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:55:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4303782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:55:50 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RFtoo0026473 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:55:50 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24046671 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:07:40 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:56:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:55:49 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <695935076.20050627095549@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: neat gadget In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062708082ef80f51@mail.gmail.com> References: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062704507d7b58a2@mail.gmail.com> <67989422.20050627085346@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062708082ef80f51@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 241, in=100662, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 9:08 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Wow! I've always had to buy my own Alternative Pointing Device. You AFoA> guys are generous. Well, we try to keep the folks happy, and they're cheap. And of course some of them, including the lady who needs a fancy $90 trackball, are due to physical limitations. Same reason we have a touchpad on one of our public computers, as there is a user who has a very crippled hand and can't use mouse or ball. >> Any clues as to why, other than "they're cool" or "Mary has one so I >> want one" or otherwise? Flat panel monitors, and bigger monitors, I >> understand desire for, but minimice? AFoA> Easier on the hand? I dunno; I use a mouse only under duress. The last AFoA> time was months ago. So are you a trackball person, or something else? We even have a guy who for several years used an abomination called a "pen mouse", but finally went back to a regular one. Also have staff member who uses a touchpad instead of mouse. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:09:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RG9De5003346 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D886@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:45:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4303321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:45:31 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RFjVpp024807 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:45:31 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24045310 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:57:21 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:46:00 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:45:30 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <605047756.20050627094530@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627083305.01bf6758@pop.gwi.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> <42BFEFFD.6000200@maynor.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050627083305.01bf6758@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 241, in=100651, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 6:33 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> At 08:24 AM 6/27/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>CBS is pretty : cwv> Perhaps not in Boise... Actually watch both CBS news (530) and NBC news (1000) to get both. Locally CBS is better on national stuff, and NBC much better on local. Don't watch much of anything on ABC and certainly not their local news...or Fox's, both of which suck completely. When out of town, I just pick a channel....if I watch any news at all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:09:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RG9De5003342 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D871@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:39:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4302819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:39:08 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RFd8e7023452 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:39:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24124270 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:39:25 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:39:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:39:07 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1643980094.20050627093907@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BFEEAC.4060309@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> <42BFEEAC.4060309@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=86364, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hmmmm....summertime 02....not positive, but think we were in Maui the first half of Aug 02. Do catch some news there, but not like at home. But thanks for the update. 6/27/2005, 6:18 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I have no idea what "Charity Wire" is -- am not suggesting it's exactly NM> . But it happened to be the first hit when I just googled NM> for 'heston alzheimers announcement' -- and now I know the when: August NM> 2002: NM> ************************* NM> Thursday, 8 August 2002 NM> Charlton Heston demonstrated great strength and courage in announcing NM> today that he may have Alzheimer's disease. His actions today have NM> provided inspiration and support to the millions of families caring for NM> people with Alzheimer's. NM> ************************* NM> from: http://www.charitywire.com/charity3/03281.html NM> -- NM> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:09:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RG9De5003345 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D88A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:47:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4303398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:47:30 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RFlTMF025103 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:47:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23113384 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:31:08 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:47:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:47:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1793557245.20050627094728@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: neat gadget In-Reply-To: <42BFFB48.8030002@bc.edu> References: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> <42BFFB48.8030002@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 237, in=84161, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 7:12 AM, Rita Leonard wrote: RL> My Dell D600 has both, as does the D610 that we are selling to students RL> this year. Hey, cool. Mine is a couple years old and haven't noticed them in the catalogs that come regularly. But also not looking for a new one for a couple more years, either. Hope they're still available when I need a new one. Used to love it on the old HP we had in the late nineties. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:09:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RG9De5003343 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D933@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:43:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4303233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:43:42 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RFhge1024488 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:43:42 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24045099 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:55:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:44:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:43:41 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1037536478.20050627094341@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42BFEFFD.6000200@maynor.net> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705061609185e0299d1@mail.gmail.com> <42B1B543.5030808@maynor.net> <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BF3B02.2050202@maynor.net> <259568444.20050626180822@gailndan.com> <42BF5428.6050304@maynor.net> <1916690009.20050626215311@gailndan.com> <42BFEFFD.6000200@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 241, in=100649, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just checked my old calendar out of curiosity. In Aug 02 was speaking at conference in Missoula from the 6-13, and was in Maui the second half thru Labor Day. Knew was in Maui that summer, but didn't remember dates. Anyway, as noted, I'm not one who gives a shit about celebrity stuff, whether Heston, Heaton, or anyone else. 6/27/2005, 6:24 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> CBS is pretty : NM> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/23/entertainment/main526595.shtml NM> And The Detroit News: NM> http://www.detnews.com/2002/newsmakers/0208/19/a02-565500.htm NM> Here's what USA Today said: NM> Charlton Heston made his announcement at a televised news conference. NM> from: NM> http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2002-08-19-alzheimers_x.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:09:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RG9De6003346 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D94F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:51:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4303628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:51:10 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RFpA5T025669 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:51:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24125979 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:51:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:51:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:51:09 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1407815118.20050627095109@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <200506271358.j5RDwZno003961@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506271358.j5RDwZno003961@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=86378, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 7:58 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: CO> But since it's not just an abstraction, here are some of the victims: CO> http://ccharity.com/lynchlist.php CO> clo I've never thought of it as an abstraction. I've seen tons of postcards of lynchings. Don't own any, partly because not a subject I'd want to collect, and also because they're very expensive. But note in the one below that despite it being done in the heart of town by a group of some 40 men, that "The Lynching was conducted in a quiet fashion" Damn nice of them, huh? http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Quarter/5974/lynching.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:09:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RG9De6003345 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D8D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:08:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4304339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:08:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RG8WZA028376 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:08:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so228041nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr3882600nzb; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:08:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fDihXkTlLu+8O2dfh6/QTRN8wReu43pGuYlY1mVw04zDtaZdvjv/Ci0en5R6OPHH3mBM2t8xlf2XVJ6e4sCES7TxMr27NyAB867gZH58ph+5FF5C4cENQe5UZSz+yYXUaprgGKYpltNqnlvPr3uXf0UJBhnnmXiu0ihvNecBtOI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062709083de53781@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:08:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <1407815118.20050627095109@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506271358.j5RDwZno003961@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1407815118.20050627095109@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RG8XZA028378 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: > I've never thought of it as an abstraction. I've seen tons of > postcards of lynchings. How many were not hangings? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:09:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RG9De6003342 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069D957@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:53:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4303707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:53:25 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RFrNRm026050 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:53:24 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23898853 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:18:21 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:53:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:53:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <731927403.20050627095322@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062708055bb772d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> <146418796.20050626165335@gailndan.com> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> <967266864.20050626220910@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062704547a56c507@mail.gmail.com> <1309135408.20050627085454@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062708055bb772d9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.322000 Adult word fuck=0.7,Adult word fucking=0.7 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 241, in=87655, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 9:05 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> What makes you full of shit is your claim that my definition, which I AFoA> haven't provided, is idiosyncratic. It makes you full of shit to claim AFoA> that are reading my mind. I'm sure, my dear, that as always you are completely perfect and correct and that any emenations from my body and mind are completely full of shit. Now as to where I "claim reading mind" came from, I've no fucking clue. But then again, since I'm obviously so deficient in intelligence and full of shit, it is probably impossible for you to explain to me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:09:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RG9De7003346 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D7D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:09:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4304391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:09:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RG9eBM028575 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:09:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so219576nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.32.11 with SMTP id f11mr3916734nzf; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:09:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TCwkvZKOiOmTkscFFTPAWVcN7ZKnOTy/SAjaY1I7J1HRp/a/OUEGAx76LJ6CNpou7mimZxPlzA40lJATrTtgE2HVoCP4hfAaxo4/8r7+hMR7rvaTMvYeiXfy5oH/DtsSAHPhrodlKF9bcIhFWehwYItEIb1FmElXlVKeJOAX/1c= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062709094f4632b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:09:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <731927403.20050627095322@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> <967266864.20050626220910@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062704547a56c507@mail.gmail.com> <1309135408.20050627085454@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062708055bb772d9@mail.gmail.com> <731927403.20050627095322@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RG9fBM028576 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: > I'm sure, my dear, that as always you are completely perfect and > correct and that any emenations from my body and mind are completely > full of shit. em*a*nation Not all of them, just this one, where you claim to know what I'm thinking. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:28:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RGRle5005611 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:27:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:28:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE514D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:07:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4304319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:07:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RG7aBv028237 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:07:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so219324nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr3895903nzc; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:07:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XAzN9lIpy3SbYiQVwnQ6132pDXWM2jWK/36DL3cDbfFq1DkvtbYMkHhkKYc51fgCpMOdNHjQCai6Y4IWhAwkGbZZ062d3xy1OxT63qW7RhOtkj9hYIyAVa4PVq82vtcrooY6yVo3uiIEOTpXr3pdqjbP+kAk+NRdvCsQJaV96e8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050627090720812bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:07:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: neat gadget In-Reply-To: <695935076.20050627095549@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062704507d7b58a2@mail.gmail.com> <67989422.20050627085346@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062708082ef80f51@mail.gmail.com> <695935076.20050627095549@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RG7aBv028240 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: > So are you a trackball person, or something else? I've used a touchpad for over 10 years. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:35:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RGZ3e5006529 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:35:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:35:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D882@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:35:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4306545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:35:02 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RGZ0Lx032750 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:35:01 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24131363 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:35:18 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:35:30 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:35:00 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1946767591.20050627103500@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062709083de53781@mail.gmail.com> References: <200506271358.j5RDwZno003961@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1407815118.20050627095109@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062709083de53781@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=86414, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The postcards I've seen were all hangings. But considering the time of the photographic images/technology (they're all real photos, typically 1900-1940) and all I've seen from the south, that's not surprising from what most have said. Besides, seeing a dead guy who was shot wouldn't be nearly as dramatic, would it? Not that pictures of dead guys are pretty or anything....I've also seen plenty of real photo PCs of the Pancho Villa raid on Columbus, the retaliation from Pershing et al, lots of dead folks lying around, etc. And the ones of WWI are fairly common as well. But they tend to be printed ones, not real photos, for some reason. But of course postcards don't tell the whole story of anything, do they? dan 6/27/2005, 10:08 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> On 6/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: >> I've never thought of it as an abstraction. I've seen tons of >> postcards of lynchings. AFoA> How many were not hangings? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:35:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RGZce5006562 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:35:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:35:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D98E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:35:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4306593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:35:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RGZbhR000387 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:35:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so215905nzc for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.56 with SMTP id u56mr3413035nzg; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EzfbW7Gp7Iu5c9WvKQ1bp/PNT48BzrmzoCJvye6cYqALj0FmW+AYinoxwXqDN246mTYK8y9eXy8pQ7+zVVXzi/kpxFcE5FDi4zKL29HH+FhIiXL5TE2Kz8nIvgVJeg8Wc4cp7wjZkvH1zyZ0XgIIG8GOAABEla0TreXA6rw+laE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:35:36 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <021d01c57ad0$a99f9000$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF3C0B.305@maynor.net> <021d01c57ad0$a99f9000$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RGZbhR000392 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And could you come up with more elegant sentences > including 'those whose....'? Dissatisfied employees envy those whose work gives them pleasure. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:37:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RGave5006668 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:36:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:37:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D887@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:36:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4306641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:36:57 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RGatrf000619 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:36:55 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23903951 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:01:54 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:37:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:36:54 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1337120532.20050627103654@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062709094f4632b@mail.gmail.com> References: <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <42BF3D53.8070208@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a70506261959477f9aea@mail.gmail.com> <42BF6DD6.4060907@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050626202513109262@mail.gmail.com> <967266864.20050626220910@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062704547a56c507@mail.gmail.com> <1309135408.20050627085454@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062708055bb772d9@mail.gmail.com> <731927403.20050627095322@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062709094f4632b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 241, in=87720, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 10:09 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> correct and that any emenations from my body and mind are completely >> full of shit. AFoA> em*a*nation Thanks for the correction. I don't usually spell check email, particularly to this list. AFoA> Not all of them, just this one, where you claim to know what I'm thinking. Well, I'm still waiting to see where I make such a claim....or ever have. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:51:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RGpHe5008531 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:51:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:51:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE52FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:51:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4307690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:51:17 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RGpFM7003048 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:51:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23121018 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:34:54 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:51:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:51:14 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <134511966.20050627105114@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: lynching postcard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 237, in=84206, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36081&item=6189103815&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW is the only one on ebay as of the moment. And not a "good one" or "typical one" as it doesn't show guys standing around, often in KKK garb, with a black man hanging from a tree. Also interesting that the picture on this one shows an actual gallows setup and that the text on it says the sheriff pulled the lever. Wonder if it was a legal hanging, or if it was a "sheriff assisted" (as opposed to "sheriff ignored") lynching/hanging. But then....these photographs, originals, just not on "postcard backs" for mailing. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=5593114634&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW One of them has a guy hanging from a tree, but he appears to be white, or at least VERY pale if mixed race. (realize the details of that back then, with specific terms like octoroons, etc) But the OTHER one shows a person of uncertain ethnicity. The victim looks fairly white, while the two guys who "did it" appear to be one white, one black. But the key is that the victim was SHOT, and the rifle is standing nearby. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 11:56:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RGtwe5009169 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:55:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:56:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069D9F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:55:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4308062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:55:58 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RGtuGt003798 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:55:57 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 23906029 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:20:48 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:56:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:55:42 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <128895448.20050627105542@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: anti-lynching MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 241, in=87745, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=48&item=6154374577&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V Obviously the NAACP had an interest in the topic of lynching.... Thus....the description of the above linked photograph A Man Was Lynched Yesterday. Flag flying above Fifth Avenue, New York City, ca. 1938. At its headquarters, 69 Fifth Avenue, New York City, the NAACP flew a flag to report lynchings, until, in 1938, the threat of losing its lease forced the association to discontinue the practice. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 12:15:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RHFfe5011514 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:15:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:15:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069DAF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:15:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4309434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:15:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RHFe6N007827 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:15:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so227707nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.18 with SMTP id l18mr3965890nzl; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:15:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MFIjUGIVVE1YrobITqP/YmS7nU/LUz/i9fsFzd9y1kofU9K4cZTOzo7aPRJgb05QmhV0Gup0N3j+QUBEN+Um0qor/RCFVy87W4nzaPvGg8mukMDUY0X1D6jtrc3mjJkhu2NrSONjJ9O2bBa3dFhXh4RBfXfGV4XnC6PpU7XZQsg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506271015617e862b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:15:40 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <1946767591.20050627103500@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506271358.j5RDwZno003961@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1407815118.20050627095109@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062709083de53781@mail.gmail.com> <1946767591.20050627103500@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RHFe6N007829 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/27/05, Dan Lester wrote: > But of course postcards don't tell the whole story of anything, do > they? No, but they are (literally) emblematic of pop culture, which can influence word meanings. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 12:59:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RHx5e5016232 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:59:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:59:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069D9F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:59:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4312072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:59:04 -0400 Received: from web60713.mail.yahoo.com (web60713.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.216]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5RHx4u0014735 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:59:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 71211 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jun 2005 17:59:04 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60713.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:59:03 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qNTMAZGsTltQyvxEfISUWqMMQR3AHtFy0VwVy8dqkZrnx2syFQf4oKENLL0DLxocmDPtKnke1AlPpeZ5o4YeTATAp1ni2mNEDmF5NZHbdKFgkjMGCbPYEAd3IMYzBXa1jqD6FtOWVZOKVLX1j/fSrWwGuIFZVyNTyf7LoBatTJk= ; Message-ID: <20050627175904.71209.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:59:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Costco [ATT: LYNNE] To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <42BD5F91.7040502@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Doris Markland wrote: > > > Speaking of Birmingham, any of you familiar with > > that city? > > I would guess that Lynne is by far the best Wordsler > to respond. > Sylacauga is not all that far from Birmingham. I actually lived in Birmingham from 1967-1970. Of course, the changes have been huge. I liked it when I lived there; it was then known as a "private party" town. These days, I hardly know the place. The traffic along the "Highway 280 corridor" is horrendous. Strange to say, however, it is in reality one of the "greener" cities in the South - many areas are dedicated to parks and green belts. The polluting industries have, for the most part, dried up. The medical centers are impressive, Mr. Scrushy notwithstanding. There is a few decent small museums, a good library, a fair zoo (after years of mismanagement), very presentable botanical gardens and a commodious civic center - even a symphony orchestra has been revived after having lain dormant for years. Still, it must be said, most folks in the burbs avoid the trip to B'ham, many in my experience doing so out of medical necessity. And although my first impulse was to agree completely with Natalie re: the redneckiness of Alabamians, I have reflected on that quality in some Pennsylvanians I knew before I ever moved to the sucky South, and I suppose it all depends on one's vantage point. I guess what I mean is, that redneckiness is not exclusive to the South, or the US, for that matter. Redneck is as redneck does. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 13:49:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RIn1e5022588 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:49:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:49:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069DC08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:49:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4315229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:49:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RIn0H1022093 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:49:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so230968nzc for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.65.19 with SMTP id n19mr4663738nza; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.4.11 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:49:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Sj7jmPbQYuJL995nLp1qvmahYWjGW2UbxP78daYzOO6pZjmK0HviWPBamVr4WfpNQpZBreY22nZ896eXkLKLE9Drger3SD0QZJqIL23HLKZsKuafuzXafgoyttPn8wJ/CglCK56Lh4xGY0W2PkgQClYKJPtuVam8/H11GliN/54= Message-ID: <3c1d5b5005062711494c0b5c4a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:49:00 +0200 From: Espen Ore Reply-To: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Summer has come to Norrbotten In-Reply-To: <8865866a0506270607455f9a3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8865866a0506270607455f9a3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RIn1H1022094 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/27/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > I was just at the mega grocery store outside of Luleå and it was > filled with Norwegians. I wouldn't mind so much if they knew how to > drive... (Sorry Espen!) It was worse back when you were still driving on the left in Sweden. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:30:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RJUQe5027881 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:30:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:30:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069DB6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:10:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4315856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:10:24 -0400 Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RJ0M3D023517 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:00:22 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([80.195.2.174]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:01:03 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <3c1d5b5005062711494c0b5c4a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8865866a0506270607455f9a3@mail.gmail.com> <3c1d5b5005062711494c0b5c4a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <12AF500E-1590-459A-8966-71D241E95525@blueyonder.co.uk> From: Roy Jaques Subject: Re: Summer has come to Norrbotten Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:01:56 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2005 19:01:03.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[90A3AFD0:01C57B4A] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RJ0M3D023522 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On 6/27/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > >> I was just at the mega grocery store outside of Luleå and it was >> filled with Norwegians. I wouldn't mind so much if they knew how to >> drive... (Sorry Espen!) >> > > It was worse back when you were still driving on the left in Sweden. > There is nothing wrong with driving on the left. As long as everybody on the island does the same. > Espen > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:32:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RJWbe5028244 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:32:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:32:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069DCCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:32:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4317784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:32:35 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RJWZ2U030178 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:32:35 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8524A81E611B7 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:32:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001b01c57b4e$eeaedd30$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20050627175904.71209.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Costco [ATT: LYNNE] Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:32:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I actually lived in Birmingham from 1967-1970. Of > course, the changes have been huge. I liked it when I > lived there; it was then known as a "private party" > town. These days, I hardly know the place. The > traffic along the "Highway 280 corridor" is > horrendous. . . . etc etc etc > Thanks for your comments, Lynne. My grandson and his wife will both be in the medical community there, she in research at the University and he in hospital ERs. They bought a house in the Hoover district, off Highway 50. None of this means anything to me . . until I go to visit and see it for myself. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 14:34:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RJY6e5028494 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:34:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:34:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069DD86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:34:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4317955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:34:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RJY5GN030459 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:34:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z3so234709nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.40 with SMTP id u40mr4793851nzg; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:33:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SbUIJhouFrE57fgyCyMAH5Ld3edJfzdZIUwmQhjO/DSal7Lq5ZXJCwdhQEJeO5Zw+zEWuX+8P41fd2c92ANFjNJr3cBwRG6gpVG3Lnu9OGdwV6TIe7yyh6eKaV1dJtXKdKUUck3Z1lHYmoIia3/tckQZDDnRZBeP24Oi0tKb6vU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:33:44 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more from Ohama In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RJY5GN030460 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Tomorrow: a dinner with some Jesuits and then "What the Bleep ...!?" I enjoyed it. Certainly makes me stop and think when I'm feeling put upon. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 15:18:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RKILe5001746 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:18:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:18:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069DCE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:18:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4321348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:18:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RKIKBA006639 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:18:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so247535nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.32.11 with SMTP id f11mr4081052nzf; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:17:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=JXsbyIL2gm8eVw/nQBRS2UsHyN6Ut7DGvz8Yfb6hX9lMmqiItRjqR/tHESiGLcMz87GjzRdNbxobchP330aGe3tdsY/R728jQ0rZ0uTCe6J8T122sO/3K/y5u3dQWd2B6y453a+EsM1eDn0Wt9P4UaGDDvPFOXCW6s8AQ7ZMaAQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050627131717cd32bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:17:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Today.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RKILBA006640 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Today is National HIV Testing Day: http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3525595 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 15:46:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RKkMe5005956 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:46:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:46:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069DE8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:46:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4324164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:46:21 -0400 Received: from web60720.mail.yahoo.com (web60720.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.208]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5RKkKq3011738 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:46:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 92903 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jun 2005 20:46:19 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60720.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:46:19 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wmaRiwpTpIb2rMdidM+pWJxsoWs77HtwY8Lpwn9COSpMngGnG0l5efXZMfmYbfXLynbgK77TwuyimmTm3vIgUf+M6ZI6vingjM9LFJ5LGzcgNnhgFyo4XF4/26qwI7vlCkYEYoAY+15OeX5nogNg7S21eVVQjT7etJVhukx5FRA= ; Message-ID: <20050627204619.92901.qmail@web60720.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:46:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Costco [ATT: LYNNE] To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001b01c57b4e$eeaedd30$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > Thanks for your comments, Lynne. My grandson and > his wife will both be in the medical community > there, > she in research at the University and he in hospital > ERs. > They bought a house in the Hoover district, off > Highway 50. None of this means anything to me . . > until I go to visit and see it for myself. Hoover is a very desirable area, and the medical community is internationally respected. I wish them the best, and sincerely hope they are happy in their new homes, both residential and professional. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 16:18:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RLI7e5009976 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:18:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:18:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069DE82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:18:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4327102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:18:06 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RLI5KK016223 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:18:06 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so424054wra for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.46.30 with SMTP id t30mr3567819wrt; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:18:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SLtYHQQnUAvhLrQAIAQOmr6TlrljKo9+PBEzI8v4OYHstWv+W0dSrBOctI3tNgwRhW/aIX6Y2R8ETD8nqT1ihOI1xdaEXIRzg0gHfA5kMj3u4Wd4nMOnjyuhgFzrAoo67St69s523JfaN8XOkbaTMBFuclNIBcuNtagJQgqslqU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:18:05 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Costco [ATT: LYNNE] In-Reply-To: <20050627175904.71209.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42BD5F91.7040502@maynor.net> <20050627175904.71209.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5RLI7e5009976 > > And although my first impulse was to agree > completely with Natalie re: the redneckiness of > Alabamians, I have reflected on that quality in some > Pennsylvanians I knew before I ever moved to the sucky > South, and I suppose it all depends on one's vantage > point. I guess what I mean is, that redneckiness is > not exclusive to the South, or the US, for that > matter. Redneck is as redneck does. As much as I rave against the sucky South, I totally agree with this. My problem with the SS was something other than the prevalence of rednecks. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 17:51:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RMp8e5022387 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:51:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:51:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069E0EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:49:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4330929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:49:01 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RMn0Zr025058 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:49:00 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.156]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627224901.CIYJ26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:49:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.156]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627224900.OLKF29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:49:00 -0400 Message-ID: <42C08258.1040008@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:48:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B00CB4.7020506@maynor.net> <001601c571a4$b70cc5d0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B01EA0.1040404@maynor.net> <027101c57256$5acceae0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF3C0B.305@maynor.net> <021d01c57ad0$a99f9000$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BFF26A.4070306@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42BFF26A.4070306@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > put the garbage out right now, though. Will be back to play more in a > little while. I lied! I didn't get back to list mail until now. I did check e-mail a couple of times through the day but not list mail. I checked for things like requests for letters of recommendation, of which I got one and which letter I have written. But I accomplished LOTS today. I will almost certainly leave for FingerFest tomorrow instead of Wednesday. I'm assuming that the cost of Spencer's boarding doesn't change because of taking him tomorrow morning instead of tomorrow afternoon. So why not head on up the road and play in some cemeteries? That at this time is my plan. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 17:51:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RMp8e5022385 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:51:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:51:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069E0C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:41:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4330597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:41:07 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RMf6LH024320 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:41:06 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.156]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627224106.CBGQ26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:41:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.156]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627224106.OGXP29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:41:06 -0400 Message-ID: <42C0807E.10909@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:41:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought References: <42BDF092.3050202@maynor.net> <42BFC917.2000202@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42BFC917.2000202@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > (Here I have to check to make sure what it says, but Kynouria is, I > believe a region - in any case he was born on April 17 1887 and died on I couldn't find Kynouria as a region but found that Peleta today is in Arkadhia, so I put that as the region. Was that a fair guess of what to do, or should I have just left it as Greece, with no region given? And thank you for the translations! BrP beat you to the task since you were out roaming around on the waters at the time. But not to worry. I took only those few pictures the other day, but there are lots and lots more Greek tombstones that I can take pictures of some other day. This is the cemetery where my parents, one set of grandparents, and one set of great-grandparents are all buried. It's reasonably easy to get to and offers many, many graves to take pictures of. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 17:54:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RMsOe5022666 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:54:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:54:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069E006@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:54:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4331275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:54:21 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RMsKrd025818 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:54:20 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.156]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627225419.CPDI26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:54:19 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.156]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627225416.OOEK29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:54:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42C08391.80804@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:54:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) References: <200506271358.j5RDwZno003961@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1407815118.20050627095109@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1407815118.20050627095109@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >I've seen tons of >postcards of lynchings. > Postcards of lynchings?? Why would there be postcards of lynchings? Who would want to create them or buy them or send them? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 17:55:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RMtDe5022760 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:55:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:55:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069E118@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:55:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4331369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:55:12 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RMtCe9025975 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:55:12 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.156]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627225512.CQEZ26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:55:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.156]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627225512.OORD29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:55:12 -0400 Message-ID: <42C083CC.3020506@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:55:08 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <42B19ED6.2000502@istori.com> <42B1A558.9090709@maynor.net> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF3C0B.305@maynor.net> <021d01c57ad0$a99f9000$6210210a@neccomputer> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>And could you come up with more elegant sentences >>including 'those whose....'? >> >> >Dissatisfied employees envy those whose work gives them pleasure. > > Good job, Ben. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 18:09:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RN9oe5024765 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:09:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:09:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069E027@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:59:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4331664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:59:49 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RMxnMZ026491 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:59:49 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.156]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627225949.CUNF26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:59:49 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.156]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627225949.ORAF29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:59:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42C084E1.3080409@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:59:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Costco [ATT: LYNNE] References: <20050627175904.71209.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050627175904.71209.qmail@web60713.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > And although my first impulse was to agree >completely with Natalie re: the redneckiness of >Alabamians, I have reflected on that quality in some >Pennsylvanians I knew before I ever moved to the sucky >South, and I suppose it all depends on one's vantage >point. I guess what I mean is, that redneckiness is >not exclusive to the South, or the US, for that >matter. Redneck is as redneck does. > > I've never thought of redneckiness as being exclusive to the South. My comment was simply about the redneckiness of the rednecks in two adjacent states that one might think would have similar kinds of people. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 18:10:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RN9oe5024764 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:09:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:09:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069E031@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:02:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4331801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:02:37 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RN2aL1026822 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:02:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005062723023501200hcjjte>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:02:36 +0000 Message-ID: <42C0858B.70900@istori.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:02:35 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought References: <42BDF092.3050202@maynor.net> <42BFC917.2000202@gmail.com> <42C0807E.10909@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42C0807E.10909@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > I couldn't find Kynouria as a region but found that Peleta today is in > Arkadhia, so I put that as the region. Was that a fair guess of what to > do, or should I have just left it as Greece, with no region given? These confirm that Kynouria is a province of Arcadia: http://www.gtp.gr/LocPage.asp?id=8669 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia#Provinces Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 18:36:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5RNaee5028199 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:36:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:36:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069E281@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:36:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4333275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:36:40 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RNaerb032210 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:36:40 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.156]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627233639.EETO26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:36:39 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.156]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050627233639.PKBX29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:36:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42C08D83.7020803@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:36:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought References: <42BDF092.3050202@maynor.net> <42BFC917.2000202@gmail.com> <42C0807E.10909@maynor.net> <42C0858B.70900@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42C0858B.70900@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > These confirm that Kynouria is a province of Arcadia: Thanks! As I think I mentioned before, Find-a-Grave doesn't allow you to write in a place -- you have to choose it from their menu. That's good in many ways but sometimes has disadvantages. And with non-US places, it stops after the first level -- after whatever comes after country. (With US, it keeps going from state to county to town.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 19:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S0CAJr004682 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:12:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:12:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069E289@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:41:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4333459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:41:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RNfBH5000305 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:41:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so275416nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.7 with SMTP id l7mr3110127nzd; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:41:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GUbcLZEp3M02scBK/9/8Ch289LckbUQX3KSsQcHs63c6QMdoWsp/brsWv7CFGVQ7uHKK+Nl8K8om7fDh36N0B5RYSp3sRyc7ulc8pr21yn4WC7EHc/l13z/OcZk3V1QabskgTOrVNNKaRQRbVs4ip4mqhlKg+SJrX9/XTgPwHFM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:41:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: CD recording freeware? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5RNfBH5000307 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I want free software that will not only record or copy tracks to a CD, but which will write the names of the tracks. (With the native Windows software, whatever it is, all the tracks show up as "Track1 Track2" etc.) Am I dreaming, or is there something like this? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 19:12:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S0CAJr004683 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:12:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:12:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069E2CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:01:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4334356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:01:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S014It002483 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:01:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so537857wra for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.96.5 with SMTP id t5mr2960655wrb; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:01:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=MPx3bynW21ci0j5MYgMRTJaQpdz5v/zXuW+hpKyab5jTe55p4mItBoizgU+9bgwNxaZ+hgRBIgrrN5QkMpgv6bH2LN4mu7uKm4eNRaxainFbW41Uc7VgWkmQ32FWdTPEzDZRK4ZTMteFsBdMT6aZrl+puhoZUOz+AfZfc3SIIFU= Message-ID: <83db447a05062717015cc1fd79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:01:01 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: foggy eve Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5S0CAJr004683 Last evening, I sat on the deck and enjoyed the gradually receding temperatures as the 80s or so weather cooled down. Today and this evening were different. This morning, the temperatures were pleasant. About 0900 or so, the fog came in from the Atlantic, spilling over the top of Cadillac and into our little valley. One began to reconsider the wisdom of T-shirts and shorts. It being Monday, I went to Ellsworth to do the weekly grocery shopping. Conditions there were interesting. It was more-or-less sunny there; the sun was warm but not unpleasantly so. Then, when a gust of breeze would happen, it was like someone had opened the freezer door. Coming back to the island, it seemed that the fog had gone, although the temperatures still attested to it (low 60s). Tonight, after dinner (baker's pasta and a small salad), the view from the deck was one of encroaching fog. Cadillac and the associated ridges were lost to sight. The neighborhood was defined by the cottonwoods and other tall trees on this side of the golf course. My basil plants were finally asserting themselves, as was the the rosemary. They, and the geraniums, stood in contrast against the misty grey-green of the outer surroundings. Earlier, some male cardinals were advertising their territories, but even they had given up. Our first (and maybe only, so far) female hummingbird made a couple of visits to the feeder. [Parenthetical note: I should have realized this, but didn't until I read up on hummers---they depend upon insects for their protein; what we humans provide via the nectar/sugar water in the feeders is simply fuel to allow them to keep up the hunt.] In the fog, things tend to quiet down. I can hear crows in the distance, but even their voices are somewhat muted. It is a quiet, cool evening. The edges of all but closest trees are softened. It is now 55 F. This is how summer is supposed to be. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 19:12:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S0CAJr004684 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:12:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:12:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069E198@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:11:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4334785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:11:01 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S0B1au003438 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:11:01 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:11:01 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:10:39 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: foggy eve Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I remember the fog rolling around the islands and valleys of MDI. Very dramatic and evocative. It was 95 in Syracuse today. They're still promising low 80s weather just in time for fest BrP >>> cwvoigt@GMAIL.COM 06/27/05 8:01 PM >>> Last evening, I sat on the deck and enjoyed the gradually receding temperatures as the 80s or so weather cooled down. Today and this evening were different. This morning, the temperatures were pleasant. About 0900 or so, the fog came in from the Atlantic, spilling over the top of Cadillac and into our little valley. One began to reconsider the wisdom of T-shirts and shorts. It being Monday, I went to Ellsworth to do the weekly grocery shopping. Conditions there were interesting. It was more-or-less sunny there; the sun was warm but not unpleasantly so. Then, when a gust of breeze would happen, it was like someone had opened the freezer door. Coming back to the island, it seemed that the fog had gone, although the temperatures still attested to it (low 60s). Tonight, after dinner (baker's pasta and a small salad), the view from the deck was one of encroaching fog. Cadillac and the associated ridges were lost to sight. The neighborhood was defined by the cottonwoods and other tall trees on this side of the golf course. My basil plants were finally asserting themselves, as was the the rosemary. They, and the geraniums, stood in contrast against the misty grey-green of the outer surroundings. Earlier, some male cardinals were advertising their territories, but even they had given up. Our first (and maybe only, so far) female hummingbird made a couple of visits to the feeder. [Parenthetical note: I should have realized this, but didn't until I read up on hummers---they depend upon insects for their protein; what we humans provide via the nectar/sugar water in the feeders is simply fuel to allow them to keep up the hunt.] In the fog, things tend to quiet down. I can hear crows in the distance, but even their voices are somewhat muted. It is a quiet, cool evening. The edges of all but closest trees are softened. It is now 55 F. This is how summer is supposed to be. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 19:12:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S0CAJs004682 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:12:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:12:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069E355@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:11:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4334807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:11:19 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S0BJCq003467 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:11:19 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so534122wra for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.16.28 with SMTP id 28mr1465864wrp; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:09:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XrewMDo2fAwiup5xYpopJ/ucbTQmhj6gIEHC8i3julRTAJ8P0ls3cu5e9gLq9HJTsXJy5TDzklXMiRUUNlFx4e0ePaJp13lQCnsfHqqOEFaeOpbQZg1kTn7CQBOgpOMWlDrnsnQe21nJ9cMKmDOqJ80J9SThcINdgLD/Q97+FjI= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:09:46 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FEST In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626150316.026625f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626150316.026625f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5S0CAJs004682 On 6/26/05, Betty Clark wrote: I think I am all packed. Looking forward to seeing everyone. How far away is Marie? Can we make a day trip out of it? It's some 260 miles each way according to MapQuest (4 hours, 10 minutes). Better to visit me when you are in the city -- we're an easy commute from Manhattan. But for anyone so inclined, you are welcome, and here it is: 1: Start out going WEST on VICTORIA PL toward WESTCOTT ST. <0.1 miles Map 2: Turn RIGHT onto WESTCOTT ST. 0.3 miles Map 3: Turn LEFT onto E GENESEE ST / NY-92. <0.1 miles Map 4: Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto COLUMBUS AVE. 0.2 miles Map 5: Stay STRAIGHT to go onto TEALL AVE. 0.2 miles Map 6: Merge onto I-690 E. 3.2 miles Map 7: Merge onto I-481 N via the exit on the LEFT toward THRUWAY. 3.2 miles Map 8: Merge onto I-90 E / NEW YORK STATE TRWY E via EXIT 6 toward ALBANY (Portions toll). 128.8 miles Map 9: Take NEW YORK STATE TRWY S / I-87 S toward NEW YORK (Portions toll). 103.6 miles Map 10: Merge onto NY-17 W via EXIT 16 toward RT-17 / HARRIMAN / US-6 (Portions toll). 0.5 miles Map 11: Take the NY 32 ramp toward US 6 EAST / NY 17 SOUTH / HARRIMAN. 0.1 miles Map 12: Turn LEFT onto NY-32. 0.1 miles Map 13: NY-32 becomes NY-17. 0.2 miles Map 14: Turn LEFT to take the US-6 E ramp toward BEAR MOUNTAIN BRIDGE. 0.3 miles Map 15: Stay STRAIGHT to go onto US-6 E. 6.1 miles Map 16: Enter next roundabout and take 2nd exit. 0.4 miles Map 17: Stay STRAIGHT to go onto PALISADES INTERSTATE PKWY N / US-6 E. 2.4 miles Map 18: Enter next roundabout and take 2nd exit onto US-202 N / US-6 E. 4.2miles Map 19: Enter next roundabout and take 1st exit onto US-9 S / US-202 E / US-6 E / LOWER SOUTH ST. 0.1 miles Map 20: Turn LEFT onto BEAR MOUNTAIN STATE PKWY. 3.8 miles Map 21: Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto CROMPOND RD / US-202 / NY-35. 0.1 miles Map 22: Turn RIGHT onto CROTON AVE. 1.1 miles Map 23: Turn RIGHT onto FURNACE DOCK RD. 0.4 miles Map 24: Turn LEFT onto GILMAN LN. 0.1 miles Map 25: Turn LEFT onto PUCKEY DR. 0.1 miles Map 26: End at *14 William Puckey Dr* Cortlandt Manor, NY 10567-6206, US Map *Total Est. Time:* 4 hours, 10 minutes *Total Est. Distance:* 260.89 miles -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 20:11:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S1ApJr008316 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:11:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069E251@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:01:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4336813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:01:34 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S11XXb007451 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:01:33 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i20so505754wra for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.48 with SMTP id n48mr3854132wrn; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:01:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dvxTsFS/vSqtbH5Yt1TdWvGPKxdpcSdwjFibFF+nhc5VJka2W8NbjoGjDh6PXOw19l2HBRgST3DmswbJQpJnxpqeCyPszVSaUytEPq2a7Hrd5QfuzTdLucyx0z2z0KQdqH/qBupTBEc+fYKOPa4tsXAu4FABu5u1sBPUYpxuKfs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:01:32 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5S1ApJr008316 Granted, I'm a little these days. But what kind of "pilot" is gmail running where they don't ask for feedback? Is it just me, or is it just plain stupid to not have a "delete" option? I end up archiving all sorts of total CRAP. Someday, when I actually do run out of space -- and I imagine that it'll happen SOME DAY -- I'll end up deleting all the stuff that was actually worthy of archiving and along with the CRAP. Maybe I've been Archivig the feedback requests? or I'm otherwise ? -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 20:11:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S1ApJr008315 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:10:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:11:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069E21E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:50:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4336294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:50:50 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S0oop3006699 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:50:50 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.156]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050628005050.FQKM26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:50:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.156]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050628005050.QEAT29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:50:50 -0400 Message-ID: <42C09EE6.6050603@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:50:46 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FEST References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626150316.026625f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: > It's some 260 miles each way according to MapQuest (4 hours, 10 minutes). >Better to visit me when you are in the city -- we're an easy commute from >Manhattan. But for anyone so inclined, you are welcome, and here it is: > > But hey -- you should just pile *uc* and the girls into the car and head to Syracuse. Piece of cake. :-) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 20:14:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S1E9Jr008610 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:14:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:14:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE615B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:04:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4336946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:04:09 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S148b5007627 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:04:08 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so490425wra for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.49 with SMTP id e49mr3833834wre; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:04:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=V6JNOG8w5ggx6X6oC50lH16yitLdV0dXzi5hAWQCRgJcxzOyqzGvG3tOAZiRLv7grDpoRqM5SeCGyLJ/tSPbRKrHgDaE7M6p3zVDV3yY8/4ylFkRnFHXz5XrwO+6j/5cfEAWrO/4wi3IySisRtGvrTXwMNAcJF6SUOXqoJVn/vo= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:04:08 -0400 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: neat gadget In-Reply-To: <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42BEDACD.4080000@istori.com> <1406216631.20050626214957@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5S1E9Jr008610 My work computer is an IBM ThinkPad with both an "eraserhead" and a touchpad. I use the eraserhead. My home comper has a touchpad, and that's okay. I just don't regular disconnected mice anymore. Marie On 6/26/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 6/26/2005, 6:52 PM, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > AH> That's the only fly in the Mac ointment for me. I > AH> like eraserhead mice. I > AH> hate touchpads. > > Same here. Unfortunately no current Win laptops I know of have them. > HP used to. But Dell doesn't. I can deal with touchpads, but am no > fan of them. > > dan > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 20:17:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S1HJJr008926 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:17:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:17:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE6175@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:17:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4337325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:17:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S1HIAk008534 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:17:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so282790nzf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr413792nzc; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:17:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=g0oMZARXm4mNiS1RGR2VKmCyMGS98/McNt9e78wSlixdDZ1ZaPNCZabjTCtAXYdzKAdZvWCZGN6Rj+vtPz0HOt57j/dhz1CUH1VDoS4ZQh0Rt5w40Uic7ZC/kONzKLno97QY6W8xMZYr3abuzdvRqetB7bCE4/HUSSTJvS/3VqU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506271817360a8f0a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:17:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5S1HIAk008536 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/27/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Granted, I'm a little these days. But what kind of "pilot" is > gmail running where they don't ask for feedback? Is it just me, or is it > just plain stupid to not have a "delete" option? I end up archiving all > sorts of total CRAP. Huh? You can delete mail. There are two different ways. For an individual message that is open, click More Options and then Trash this message. If you want to select a whole bunch, click the checkbox to the left, and then select Move to Trash from the More Actions... drop-down box. I forget if the Trash folder empties automatically or if you have to empty it yourself. You can select All at the top, which clicks all the checkboxes, and then click Delete Forever. It's that big deal a deal. Have you RTFMed? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 20:18:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S1I7Jr008961 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:18:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:18:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069E444@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:18:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4337031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:18:07 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5S185Aj007845 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:08:05 -0400 Received: (qmail 6778 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Jun 2005 01:08:04 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:08:04 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more from Ohama Message-ID: <20050628010804.GA6556@words-l.org> References: <14526320.20050626054142@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <14526320.20050626054142@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 05:41:42AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/25/2005, 1:55 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > BKD> We have a resident masseuse > > So is she Ohama Bin Laden in drag? Or a cousin of the sought bad guy? Please! Don't let the PRESS know this! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 20:26:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S1QJJr009777 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:26:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:26:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069E3AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:26:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4337663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:26:19 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S1QII6009493 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:26:18 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.156]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050628012618.GIDV26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:26:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.156]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050628012618.QOKC29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:26:18 -0400 Message-ID: <42C0A737.3060408@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:26:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marieber Meeber wrote: > Is it just me, or is it >just plain stupid to not have a "delete" option? I end up archiving all >sorts of total CRAP. > > There's a way to delete. I can't remember the details now since I go to gmail only once every month or so to archive the genealogy stuff I've forwarded there. But on rare occasions I've found other mail there and have deleted it. Iirc, it's not obvious -- like there's not a clearcut "delete" button. I remember finding that annoying. But it's somewhere pretty easily get-to-able. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 20:27:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S1ReJr009898 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:27:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:27:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069E462@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:27:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4337360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:27:39 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5S1Ha5d008588 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:17:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 11495 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Jun 2005 01:17:36 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:17:36 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) Message-ID: <20050628011736.GB6556@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 08:18:45PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I'll take a stab at it. > Diegesis (noun) diegetic (adjective) is a concept from rhetoric that was > introduced to the list by Gilbert Smith as a description of his story > telling style. It is the idea that the internal consisyency of a story > is a kind of truth whether the story itself is in fact true. A good > example of this would be science fiction. If the sci fi story is true > to itself, it works as a story even though it includes ideas that are > not true out of the context of the story. > > How did I do? Badly. The diegesis of a story is the universe of the story. Not the "idea that it is a kind of truth". I now realize that it's always possible to make hokey word hokier. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 20:53:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S1qxJr012942 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:53:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:53:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069E2DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:42:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4338341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:42:58 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S1gwdX011058 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:42:58 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so273439nzb for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr4252513nzd; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:42:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SCLbgdd2FGBIwGuI7QNQvinJcBOFBwnDDiDaKiSXL4JGjeYjyxAZxQgDfHgGgXvZ3HoJ2q+oCOpIEBTJSAsjD+EmRvsqQUadukzGM3uTtWMIsbwSLKLIGpQpmIgnKJsnyGUvjmYSojFcBRMNs04fsemgJ1PczeYIVEi61Ws/qPw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050627184214d42931@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:42:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506271817360a8f0a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506271817360a8f0a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5S1gwdX011059 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I should have said "*at least* two different ways" On 6/27/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/27/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > Granted, I'm a little these days. But what kind of "pilot" is > > gmail running where they don't ask for feedback? Is it just me, or is it > > just plain stupid to not have a "delete" option? I end up archiving all > > sorts of total CRAP. > > Huh? You can delete mail. There are two different ways. > > For an individual message that is open, click More Options and then > Trash this message. > > If you want to select a whole bunch, click the checkbox to the left, > and then select Move to Trash from the More Actions... drop-down box. > > I forget if the Trash folder empties automatically or if you have to > empty it yourself. You can select All at the top, which clicks all the > checkboxes, and then click Delete Forever. > > It's that big deal a deal. > > Have you RTFMed? > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 20:58:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S1whJr013520 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:58:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:58:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE61A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:38:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4337788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:38:41 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5S1SeEH009706 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:28:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 17262 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Jun 2005 01:28:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:28:39 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Gleanings (2) Message-ID: <20050628012839.GC6556@words-l.org> References: <42B33D8A.7080505@maynor.net> <010d01c573c5$0da6bd70$6210210a@neccomputer> <42B41A14.5000807@gmail.com> <42B4BB73.4090807@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050619114347a01021@mail.gmail.com> <42B61EF9.1050609@maynor.net> <20050620024140.GA51652@words-l.org> <42B6A381.6090100@maynor.net> <014e01c57a9d$9be8b320$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 08:13:06PM -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I believe the dictionary meaning has to do with the implied world in > a work of fiction. For example, in the world of a Jane Austen novel, > California and Japan exist (diegetically?) even though they may never > be mentioned. I am not sure that anything like this can be said at all. But then, I am not interested in asserting or denying any such thing. Which is perhaps why I don't write essays with the word "diegesis" in them ... > I don't know the etymology of lynching (probably from someone > named Lynch, just as the word "boycott" comes from a proper name), > > [...] > > Whether [anti-lynching legislation] would have made any actual > difference is debatable. For example, the U.S. Constitution > throughout this period contained the 15th Amendment, which > guaranteed the right to vote, but no serious attempt was made > to enforce this on behalf of African-Americans until the 1960s. Two examples of analogies nobody has any grounds to apply. > Unlike Japan, An example of a trope meant to be helpful and is usually patronizing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 21:49:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S2nCJr018882 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:49:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:49:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069E618@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:29:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4340780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:29:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S2T4ib015015 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:29:07 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so270161nzc for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.158.3 with SMTP id g3mr5042079nze; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:29:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e58mRJVm3BI6SZH5Vl2ihhtxD/+sVI5xOgUILiz/oD/yiKH00l9yBvz42JcvrUCnfPGiz++t8Oz0cVSskB63mN5rBnJ6SAx4rg3QZ+baw3divmVf1eFSf3cZwZvqfL7atKBpAQRlLsSjbUFZs9sv1Db66zDwujcSk9BriLIcV+U= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:29:02 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sentences In-Reply-To: <42C083CC.3020506@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01a701c4d2de$63ceb3c0$4a10210a@neccomputer> <013a01c576e9$b6ecd8c0$6210210a@neccomputer> <42BB207D.2090400@maynor.net> <014301c57a9c$87e36240$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a705062615282dca63cd@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c57aa1$968b92e0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42BF3C0B.305@maynor.net> <021d01c57ad0$a99f9000$6210210a@neccomputer> <42C083CC.3020506@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5S2T8ib015022 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Dissatisfied employees envy those whose work gives them pleasure. > Good job, Ben. It was my pleasure! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 22:12:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S3BvJr021512 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:11:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:12:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE6477@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:01:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4343867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:01:56 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S31tVR018555 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:01:56 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.213.156]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050628030153.GPPA2145.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:01:53 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.213.156]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050628030154.BBEP25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:01:54 -0400 Message-ID: <42C0BD9F.9000505@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:01:51 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Nomail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU DSAI. Or at least not unless somebody can report it at FingerFest. I'm about to set nomail. I am thinking back on the good ole days when I never set nomail -- because I needed never to miss list mail because of the WHTM files. I would get home from a fest and gather those files. But in these spam-filled days, when it takes hours and hours to deal with the spam, leaving list mail turned on is not wise. Would it be deemed passive-aggressive for me to inquire about who the current keeper of the WHTM files is and what has happened to the earlier ones? That's a rhetorical question I guess since I'm about to set nomail. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jun 27 23:26:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S4QkJr028968 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:26:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:26:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE67E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 0:26:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4350605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:25:46 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S4Pk8b026670 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:25:46 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j5S4Pj6X029168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:25:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Nomail Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > DSAI. Or at least not unless somebody can report it at FingerFest. I'm > about to set nomail. I am thinking back on the good ole days when I > never set nomail -- because I needed never to miss list mail because of > the WHTM files. I would get home from a fest and gather those files. > But in these spam-filled days, when it takes hours and hours to deal > with the spam, leaving list mail turned on is not wise. Why not set things up so that list mail goes into a file of its own? I have things set up this way all the time ... this way you can read list mail and there is no spam (except for the occasional list spam message). Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 01:07:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S66rJr008109 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:06:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:07:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069EA20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 2:06:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4355238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:06:52 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S66qKW004230 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:06:52 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1023310rnf for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.8 with SMTP id n8mr1293492rna; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:06:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PtLRrwZywWsQ8LooCqQADY69otPCSxtFJERV6nBuRZM12n4z0daXeK9hB75mX6x7acQxmttnAxX5XXTEFdKQSVvzUPqYftaRBaKT95cSCQdu0ubIJ+aMbcWV3FpCfZ8b0vtkeNkz5oK9uoslRHYO4DtRtyWsvedTw51cvzjs5KI= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:06:50 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FEST In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.0.1.1.2.20050626150316.026625f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5S66qKW004231 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/27/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > On 6/26/05, Betty Clark wrote: > I think I am all packed. Looking forward to seeing everyone. How far away > is Marie? Can we make a day trip out of it? > It's some 260 miles each way according to MapQuest (4 hours, 10 minutes). > Better to visit me when you are in the city -- we're an easy commute from > Manhattan. But for anyone so inclined, you are welcome, and here it is: > 1: Start out going WEST on VICTORIA PL toward WESTCOTT ST. <0.1 miles Or take the train - only five hours or so each way. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 02:22:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S7LfJr017702 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:21:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:21:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE6AF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 3:21:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4356890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:21:40 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5S7LdJE013129 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:21:40 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062809195521124 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:19:55 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:21:38 +0200 Message-ID: <42C0FA82.2080501@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:21:38 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: foggy eve References: <83db447a05062717015cc1fd79@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05062717015cc1fd79@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2005 07:21:38.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[0647A180:01C57BB2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander skrev 28.06.2005 02:01: >Last evening, I sat on the deck and enjoyed the gradually receding > > Thank you! I almest felt that I was there. I really wish to go to the coast of Maine once. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 02:27:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S7RGJr018225 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:27:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:27:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069EAA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 3:17:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4356795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:17:14 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5S7HCVb012661 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:17:13 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062809152821105 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:15:28 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:17:12 +0200 Message-ID: <42C0F977.30209@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:17:11 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Summer has come to Norrbotten References: <8865866a0506270607455f9a3@mail.gmail.com> <3c1d5b5005062711494c0b5c4a@mail.gmail.com> <12AF500E-1590-459A-8966-71D241E95525@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <12AF500E-1590-459A-8966-71D241E95525@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2005 07:17:12.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[673A9ED0:01C57BB1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Roy Jaques skrev 27.06.2005 21:01: >> On 6/27/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: >> >>> I was just at the mega grocery store outside of Luleå and it was >>> filled with Norwegians. I wouldn't mind so much if they knew how to >>> drive... (Sorry Espen!) >>> >> >> It was worse back when you were still driving on the left in Sweden. >> > There is nothing wrong with driving on the left. As long as everybody > on the island does the same. > I have suggested to my Scot friends that they should change to right side driving. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 02:27:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5S7RGJr018227 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:27:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:27:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069EC65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 3:19:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4356816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:19:07 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5S7J6U5012800 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 03:19:06 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062809172121113 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:17:21 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:19:05 +0200 Message-ID: <42C0F9E9.8090202@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:19:05 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Translation Help Sought References: <42BDF092.3050202@maynor.net> <42BFC917.2000202@gmail.com> <42C0807E.10909@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42C0807E.10909@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2005 07:19:05.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[AAF1FA60:01C57BB1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 28.06.2005 00:41: > Espen S. Ore wrote: > >> (Here I have to check to make sure what it says, but Kynouria is, I >> believe a region - in any case he was born on April 17 1887 and died on > > > I couldn't find Kynouria as a region but found that Peleta today is in > Arkadhia, so I put that as the region. Was that a fair guess of what to > do, or should I have just left it as Greece, with no region given? > Kynouria is in Arkadia, when I think about it. Arkadia is an administrative unit on a higher level than Kynouria - Kynouria is an area with a collection of villages. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 05:37:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SAb1Jr013556 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:37:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:37:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069EB85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 5:37:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4359607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:37:00 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S9axf0023726 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:37:00 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5S9awuu024883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:36:58 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5S9avNE024881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:36:57 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:36:57 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nomail Message-ID: <20050628093657.GA24814@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:25:45AM -0400, Joan Boorstein wrote: = > DSAI. Or at least not unless somebody can report it at FingerFest. I'm = > about to set nomail. I am thinking back on the good ole days when I = > never set nomail -- because I needed never to miss list mail because of = > the WHTM files. I would get home from a fest and gather those files. = > But in these spam-filled days, when it takes hours and hours to deal = > with the spam, leaving list mail turned on is not wise. = = Why not set things up so that list mail goes into a file of its own? I = have things set up this way all the time ... this way you can read list = mail and there is no spam (except for the occasional list spam message). = = Joan Why not just use a completely different email address for list mail? This means that sometimes personal mail comes to my listmail addres, but it also means you don't have to pop down all the spam while you're on the road. Maybe you only use this address while you're on the road and set it nomail the rest of the time. Maybe, just maybe, however, we're just not as important in the scheme of things that we used to be. As for the WHTM's, I don't think anyone is saving them anymore separately. Of course they're in the list archives these days. Tushar's made a nice page at http://www.words-l.org/WHTM.htm but none of it looks recent. Do we really want to keep stuff like that and make it prominent, or are we not so very interested in all that anymore? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 06:37:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SBb8Jr022673 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:37:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:37:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE6E51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 7:37:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4362807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:37:08 -0400 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (archive.msstate.edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SBR8QD026453 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:27:08 -0400 Received: from archive.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.13.1/8.12.8/MsState-Archive/1.10) with ESMTP; id j5SBR7TR001043 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by archive.msstate.edu (8.13.1/8.12.7/Submit) id j5SBR7cl001041 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:27:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Mutant City Message-Id: <200506281127.j5SBR7cl001041@archive.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Nomail Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joan wrote: **** Why not set things up so that list mail goes into a file of its own? I have things set up this way all the time ... this way you can read list mail and there is no spam (except for the occasional list spam message). ***** I should try to figure out whether there's a way to do that with Squibmail (or some such name -- the webmail reader on wojomedia.com). Since I don't use webmail often, I don't know all of its -- and the reader on wojo, which is where maynor.net lives, is totally different from the one on ra.msstate.edu, the other account I check via webmail when traveling. I do have my list mail separated from other mail via Mozilla -- how I read it at home. But when I'm traveling and using webmail, it's all in one big jumble. So it's simpler to set nomail and, if I have time, do what I'm doing right now -- reading the archives. --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 06:40:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SBe2Jr023243 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:40:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:40:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069ED0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 7:40:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4363362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:40:02 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SBe1nR028198 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:40:01 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE6E5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 7:40:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200506281140.j5SBe1nR028198@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:40:01 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Nomail To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Travel safely! See you soon- clo From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 06:50:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SBoUJr024359 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:50:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:50:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069EE2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 7:50:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4363685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:50:24 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SBoO7O029725 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:50:24 -0400 Received: from [24.150.87.222] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 115716140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:50:24 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050628044942.01c70700@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:50:22 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Nomail In-Reply-To: <200506281140.j5SBe1nR028198@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506281140.j5SBe1nR028198@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:40 AM 6/28/2005, you wrote: >Travel safely! >See you soon- >clo I can see the Rainbow Bridge! Time to go explore. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 07:26:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SCQPJr029166 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:26:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:26:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE6F31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 8:26:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4365211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:26:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SCQOYb002476 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:26:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so623976wra for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.5.15 with SMTP id 15mr83219wre; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:26:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=U93Caz7niX6hKqn3BPUuS/xHcAOuzGFOA0Ev3Wal/cTJxaQ2jd1ljojy00HkR9dZgapnI7lzOg3x2NY/QNXSMifWkHjkZcTysyDO60MbMLidA2KXxVm+k5nquNDKcKKbKAYSyfIDvdLf9Mk955bbuS4CM8jwEbTXzA2UrRihc3k= Message-ID: <83db447a0506280526780d80e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:26:22 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: foggy eve In-Reply-To: <42C0FA82.2080501@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a05062717015cc1fd79@mail.gmail.com> <42C0FA82.2080501@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5SCQPJr029166 On 6/28/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > Thank you! I almest felt that I was there. I really wish to go to the > coast of Maine once. My pleasure. I think that you would enjoy it. Now it is a foggy morning, 59 F -15 C and light south breezes moving more fog in. The Cat (the high-speed ferry to Nova Scotia) is using its horn as it moves out of the harbor area. I doubt that the passengers will see much scenery on the passage. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 07:48:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SCltJr032149 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:48:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:48:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069EEE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 8:37:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4365677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:37:50 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5SCbhwV003659 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:37:44 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062814355822948 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:35:58 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:37:42 +0200 Message-ID: <42C14495.3050907@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:37:41 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: foggy eve References: <83db447a05062717015cc1fd79@mail.gmail.com> <42C0FA82.2080501@gmail.com> <83db447a0506280526780d80e3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506280526780d80e3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2005 12:37:42.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D5A83B0:01C57BDE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander skrev 28.06.2005 14:26: >On 6/28/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > >>Thank you! I almest felt that I was there. I really wish to go to the >>coast of Maine once. >> >> > > My pleasure. I think that you would enjoy it. > Now it is a foggy morning, 59 F -15 C and light south breezes moving more >fog in. The Cat (the high-speed ferry to Nova Scotia) is using its horn as >it moves out of the harbor area. I doubt that the passengers will see much >scenery on the passage. > > Is the Cat a catamaran? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 08:20:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SDKIJr003907 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:20:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:20:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE7057@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 9:20:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4368605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:20:17 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SDKHfI009755 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:20:17 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-166-112.gwi.net [216.195.166.112]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5SDKCCR075704; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:20:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628091140.01bf4460@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:17:54 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: foggy eve In-Reply-To: <42C14495.3050907@gmail.com> References: <83db447a05062717015cc1fd79@mail.gmail.com> <42C0FA82.2080501@gmail.com> <83db447a0506280526780d80e3@mail.gmail.com> <42C14495.3050907@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:37 AM 6/28/2005, Espen S. 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Of course they're in the list archives these days. > > Tushar's made a nice page at http://www.words-l.org/WHTM.htm but none > of it looks recent. I don't think I "made" the page. I copied as much of the site as I can and I continue to host it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 11:59:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SGxSJr001065 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:59:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:59:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE789E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:59:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4385813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:59:28 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SGxRE0016501 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:59:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24154236 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:11:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:59:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:59:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15710604067.20050628105924@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Translation Help Sought In-Reply-To: <42C0807E.10909@maynor.net> References: <42BDF092.3050202@maynor.net> <42BFC917.2000202@gmail.com> <42C0807E.10909@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 242, in=101188, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 4:41 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> (Here I have to check to make sure what it says, but Kynouria is, I >> believe a region - in any case he was born on April 17 1887 and died on NM> I couldn't find Kynouria as a region but found that Peleta today is in NM> Arkadhia, so I put that as the region. Was that a fair guess of what to NM> do, or should I have just left it as Greece, with no region given? Why not leave it exactly as it is on the tombstone? Even if some around here can't find the relevant region, I'm sure that anyone who cared THAT much could do so. To me, changing it, is like changing a name or other fact, and you just don't do it. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 12:09:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SH8qJr002799 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:08:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:09:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069F641@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:08:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4386409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:08:52 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SH8piU018992 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:08:51 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24235726 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:09:08 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:09:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:08:50 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <267379754.20050628110850@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: New Gleanings (2) In-Reply-To: <42C08391.80804@maynor.net> References: <200506271358.j5RDwZno003961@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1407815118.20050627095109@gailndan.com> <42C08391.80804@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: ***: 3.000000 Aspam=3.0 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 240, in=86918, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/27/2005, 4:54 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>I've seen tons of >>postcards of lynchings. >> NM> Postcards of lynchings?? Why would there be postcards of lynchings? NM> Who would want to create them or buy them or send them? Well, back in the 1900-1930 period "real photo" postcards were very popular. They were also relatively economical for reproduction in small numbers to locals, things that wouldn't be reasonable to print thousands of. Besides having them of local buildings or street scenes in small towns, they also exist for parades, celebrations, disasters (train wrecks, floods, fires, etc.). The kind of things you'd now phone or email someone to say "Hey, Aunt Susie, we had a big fire in town today....or a tornado...or whatever". Of course these days Aunt Susie might have seen it on CNN, too. But back then, postcards were easy and cheap, and real photos could be sold the next day. Here are a couple examples that aren't lynchings but other "events". http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29482&item=6190206979&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29484&item=6190209826&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29481&item=6189578266&rd=1 Or just go to the ebay category....which has over 5000 of them at any given time. http://collectibles.listings.ebay.com/Postcards_Real-Photo_W0QQfromZR4QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ2QQsacatZ29480QQsocmdZListingItemList dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 12:44:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SHiiJr007284 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:44:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:44:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F56F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:44:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4389439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:44:44 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SHiY9c025504 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:44:34 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:44:34 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:44:21 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Is there a term... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ..for phrases that are immediately marked as lies by the very fact of needing to be said at all ? like: "Honest John's Used Cars" "Clean Rooms Motel" or "I think we have a clear strategy for success" BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 12:48:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SHlxJr007683 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:48:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:48:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069F745@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:47:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4389968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:47:59 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SHlwMJ026589 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:47:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23229673 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:31:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:48:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:47:53 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1478879868.20050628114753@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Dianetics and L Ron Hubbard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 238, in=84844, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0624051hubbard1.html has his FBI file....kind of interesting.... dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 12:51:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SHoTJr007912 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:50:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:50:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F59F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:50:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4390276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:50:29 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SHoS04027172 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:50:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24239689 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:50:45 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:50:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:50:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <298803458.20050628115028@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 240, in=86941, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/28/2005, 11:44 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> "Honest John's Used Cars" Don't know the term....but Boise has a car dealer that has been around for some 30 years, and from I've bought a car, named Fairly Reliable Bob's He started it almost as a joke. But they are excellent and highly respected. Shots of their lot and signs and stuff have appeared in several movies in which non-Boise viewers think it is a joke made up for the movie. All I've ever heard of rate them as the best used car dealer around, and they're by far the largest in State of Idaho, now moving into their second city block. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 12:52:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SHqKJr008137 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:52:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:52:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069F6BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:52:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4390513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:52:19 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SHqHJS027608 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:52:17 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24159149 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:04:20 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:52:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:52:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 242, in=101225, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Don't know about freeware, but I'm a big fan of MMJB and it is cheap. What you need is software that checks the internet database of that info (and to be online at the time). At moment can't think of name of the database, but it goes by some sort of "serial number" or "ISBN type of number" that is coded on the CD. And if you're the first person to ever enter said CD (say from some obscure local band) it'll get added to the database. dan 6/27/2005, 5:41 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I want free software that will not only record or copy tracks to a CD, AFoA> but which will write the names of the tracks. (With the native Windows AFoA> software, whatever it is, all the tracks show up as "Track1 Track2" AFoA> etc.) AFoA> Am I dreaming, or is there something like this? AFoA> Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 12:53:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SHqsJr008198 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:52:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:53:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F5B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:52:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4390563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:52:53 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SHqpHv027715 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:52:51 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:52:51 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:52:24 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: doncha just love the news? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU SACRAMENTO, California (AP) -- The "American Idol" contestant who claims to have had an affair with judge Paula Abdul was cited on a misdemeanor battery charge after allegedly getting into a food fight with his record company manager. I have a prediction - fodder for both Leno and Letterman tonight BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:00:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SHxvJr008867 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:59:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:00:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069F79D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:59:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4390947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:59:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SHxtjp028812 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:59:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so369917nzi for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.11 with SMTP id x11mr3555928nzx; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:59:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EgzMhfY3ILNNLfU9zDap0w+PYgjvVRefo31y6puueWqLXkEXA2oSbI11M0WX1aAWmyuwC+UwDYqGNcSUGr6/vF5KZ6grejR7Cq7B8v0f7RQucv85Ba0OfnbeHi8zsWHJSzBhnZ0poJajqH69TQeY/iN9GuTBkvxqIxBRfjhzDYk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506281059749e19e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:59:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SHxujp028824 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU CDDB. Does it have to check CDDB in order to know what the name is? That seems to me. Karen On 6/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Don't know about freeware, but I'm a big fan of MMJB and it is cheap. > > What you need is software that checks the internet database of that > info (and to be online at the time). At moment can't think of name of > the database, but it goes by some sort of "serial number" or "ISBN > type of number" that is coded on the CD. And if you're the first > person to ever enter said CD (say from some obscure local band) it'll > get added to the database. > > dan > > 6/27/2005, 5:41 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> I want free software that will not only record or copy tracks to a CD, > AFoA> but which will write the names of the tracks. (With the native Windows > AFoA> software, whatever it is, all the tracks show up as "Track1 Track2" > AFoA> etc.) > > AFoA> Am I dreaming, or is there something like this? > > AFoA> Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:00:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SI0DJr008935 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:00:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:00:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F5E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:00:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4390966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:00:12 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SI0BNL028868 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:00:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so386831nzf for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.27 with SMTP id t27mr122156nzg; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:59:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s77C2YGCItVjCZviTHfhUBA1ua1nOoNwV+FSS++PMkeEdXrDxLZ0x0CcuJxNGWNIfdmSMaQt5z5thYlG+B9ybEP4dTza+pk61yx7khshliSUKX9sQAw2XFqMQgEv8JbnxIeMY7tn8H+0maEhYABJ54Ghb93YnqJ+T4uTkQxvk5c= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050628105941ac9cce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:59:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SI0CNL028875 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What is MMJB? On 6/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Don't know about freeware, but I'm a big fan of MMJB and it is cheap. > > What you need is software that checks the internet database of that > info (and to be online at the time). At moment can't think of name of > the database, but it goes by some sort of "serial number" or "ISBN > type of number" that is coded on the CD. And if you're the first > person to ever enter said CD (say from some obscure local band) it'll > get added to the database. > > dan > > 6/27/2005, 5:41 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> I want free software that will not only record or copy tracks to a CD, > AFoA> but which will write the names of the tracks. (With the native Windows > AFoA> software, whatever it is, all the tracks show up as "Track1 Track2" > AFoA> etc.) > > AFoA> Am I dreaming, or is there something like this? > > AFoA> Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:06:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SI5wJr009857 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:05:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:06:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE7B71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:05:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4392000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:05:58 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SI5uA3030216 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:05:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24007998 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:31:06 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:06:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:05:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <506550043.20050628120556@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050628105941ac9cce@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050628105941ac9cce@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 242, in=88697, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/28/2005, 11:59 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> What is MMJB? MusicMatch JukeBox Just google MMJB and it'll take you to their website as first listing. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:25:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SIPCJr012364 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:25:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:25:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F658@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:05:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4391803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:05:10 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SI5AT6030015 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:05:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24241261 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:05:27 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:05:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:05:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1294387682.20050628120510@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506281059749e19e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506281059749e19e8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 240, in=86945, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/28/2005, 11:59 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> CDDB. Yeah, that's it. AFoA> Does it have to check CDDB in order to know what the name is? That AFoA> seems to me. As far as I know. Years ago you could (and maybe still can) download the entire CDDB file....and I did so since I was on VERY slow dialup. (downloaded it at work and took it home) As far as I know that's what it takes, since it seems the track titles and such are not available from the CD itself. If I record a CD (say a personal compilation) and then add it to MMJB, it'll just call them Track 1, Track 2, etc. So at least if there is track info on the orignal CD it doesn't copy over when burning a copy. And if offline when adding a published CD to MMJB it'll say that it can't connect. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:25:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SIPCJr012366 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:25:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:25:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F6D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:19:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4393284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:19:40 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SIJdjG000810 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:19:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005062818193901100lufcbe>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:19:39 +0000 Message-ID: <42C194B7.50202@istori.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:19:35 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen writes, > I want free software that will not only record or copy tracks to a CD, > but which will write the names of the tracks. I'm not clear on what you're asking. Where do you want the names of the tracks written? It could either be as CD-Text (burned onto the disc as digital information to be read and displayed by your player) or onto a CD label or album cover. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:27:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SIRUJr012568 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:27:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:27:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE7BEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:17:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4393015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:17:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SIHSjE032700 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:17:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so366465nzb for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr4846788nzd; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:17:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rC/LRWVi4p4TiXdOw4jC/NRQbbqU9jDg9N2XobR6CEzzqDgH+NHqRGD3K8QYozMBzEmSNVUQv+9+4BKauXfpnm5ZZZBOW3YomEqnHzk9F90EtpcIbjxNMdELDSBDHlY4CzxjYOr8uEwGDPhpW+M4USFIGvxS208JunNM9SaYoKM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050628111760ac4296@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:17:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: <1294387682.20050628120510@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506281059749e19e8@mail.gmail.com> <1294387682.20050628120510@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SIHTjE032703 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I used to use MusicMatch a long time ago, and I stopped because when they upgraded it, it sucked. I understand that this is the way that MusicMatch works, but I don't think the software HAS to work like that. (But I'm not sure.) Karen On 6/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/28/2005, 11:59 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> CDDB. > > Yeah, that's it. > > AFoA> Does it have to check CDDB in order to know what the name is? That > AFoA> seems to me. > > As far as I know. Years ago you could (and maybe still can) download > the entire CDDB file....and I did so since I was on VERY slow dialup. > (downloaded it at work and took it home) > > As far as I know that's what it takes, since it seems the track titles > and such are not available from the CD itself. If I record a CD (say > a personal compilation) and then add it to MMJB, it'll just call them > Track 1, Track 2, etc. So at least if there is track info on the > orignal CD it doesn't copy over when burning a copy. And if offline > when adding a published CD to MMJB it'll say that it can't connect. > > dan > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:34:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SIYUJr013497 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:34:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:34:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FE7CFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:34:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4393702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:34:29 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5SIORXp002670 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:24:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 15516 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Jun 2005 18:24:26 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:24:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... Message-ID: <20050628182426.GA12484@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:44:21PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > ..for phrases that are immediately marked as lies by the very fact of > needing to be said at all ? > > like: > > "Honest John's Used Cars" > "Clean Rooms Motel" > or > "I think we have a clear strategy for success" None of these is a lie by virtue of needing to be said. So, let's have some convincing examples first ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:35:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SIZMJr013652 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:35:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:35:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F749@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:35:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4394718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:35:21 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SIZLfX004402 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:35:21 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so368959nzb for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr4854895nzc; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:34:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MY49MeVJLMvRN6ggLqoKrqtnmcAxTa2JSKu43gCT0/E72RYexdsET/vHSNAUub2wVaYFZuLH3aptnP05FvUcMOutBQHl9vgkv4hjMKwhnb/l2olFJvuXGHRiO9SGysPQxOX8elU0dxxutGb3NSNebKLXXPW0Adouz+7ux5ZSifQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050628113457810368@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:34:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: <42C194B7.50202@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <42C194B7.50202@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SIZLfX004403 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/28/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > I'm not clear on what you're asking. Where do you want the names of the > tracks written? It could either be as CD-Text (burned onto the disc as > digital information to be read and displayed by your player) or onto a > CD label or album cover. CD-Text Thanks, I didn't know the name for it! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:46:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SIjuJr015097 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:45:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:46:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069F95B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:45:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4395630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:45:56 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SIjtg2006029 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:45:55 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:45:55 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:45:18 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Is there a term... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 06/28/05 2:24 PM >>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:44:21PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> ..for phrases that are immediately marked as lies by the very fact of >> needing to be said at all ? >> >> like: >> >> "Honest John's Used Cars" >> "Clean Rooms Motel" >> or >> "I think we have a clear strategy for success" >None of these is a lie by virtue of needing to be said. >So, let's have some convincing examples first ... ok then. Let me be more direct. George Bush wouldn't need to go on television tonight to say "I think we have a clear strategy for success" if he really had one. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:47:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SIlcJr015236 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:47:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:47:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069F8B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:47:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4395742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:47:38 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SIlb52006226 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:47:37 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1134548rnf for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.101.65 with SMTP id y65mr507882rnb; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VeenVcleac6IgtdHYJ4fmKsCw9ifWZ6y5iQaLpOd82jGSXJFy4It+MZRWsmoT4LuMarplAbHvwmrTpN62QJb9rhTscV2QVKlJwHdCeZkMaHjLj6U8+J4k4qdG2M96OMh147U/xa0phWQ7lUGMTKiV7Skm1dE88R1McA+tf4Ap0k= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:47:37 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: <298803458.20050628115028@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <298803458.20050628115028@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SIlb52006227 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Don't know the term....but Boise has a car dealer that has been around > for some 30 years, and from I've bought a car, named > > Fairly Reliable Bob's There were two electrical contractors in Toronto when I was a kid, called Goodenough Electric and Adequate Wiring. But this of course digresses (quelle horreur) from BrP's original query. Certainly there's some overlap with the concept of oxymoronic. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:54:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SIsWJr015856 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:54:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:54:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F7EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:54:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4396240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:54:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SIsTQN007343 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:54:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so371738nzb for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr4874858nzc; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:54:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZBym0+h0HljUCGtBGzijtmzeF/ttBG671JULHOwweIY+ePDJCrAQw/KIffMYVTonlmT109arOsityP9tMRdqV59nBSCAMZbyeoG+3znp38Hwpm13cZw9hOXSuoehr5qjwsE5SNgfEozMLm3wa3Fa+0M2R/v25zVOHV0ZNvffe2M= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062811547dc87703@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:54:05 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SIsUQN007344 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/28/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > George Bush wouldn't need to go on television tonight to say "I think > we have a clear strategy for success" if he really had one. Karl Rove got to him. If he were really American, instead of a closet Stalinist, he would spell his name Carl. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:54:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SIspJr015906 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:54:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:54:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069F8FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:54:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4396299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:54:51 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SIso8Y007407 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:54:51 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:54:51 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:54:32 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Is there a term... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU you know, I thought the term sounded familiar "Kerry's plan for Iraq offers a fresh start. He will get more countries involved by showing them we have a clear strategy for success, giving them a stake in Iraq and using the power of the presidency to bring the world in." (from johnkerry.com last october) BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 13:55:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SIt6Jr015959 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:55:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:55:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069F9B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:55:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4396332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:55:06 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SIt6SD007499 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:55:06 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so394527nzf for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.27 with SMTP id t27mr180098nzg; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:54:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Pwj4tlVhIsCl6sfMh8XXpvvnmPSjZ77L9P5H2R3yJZ7Fy5e3ZCvlWoBpeAEoSuZgvXiJog9t5L4yd7MAtehq5zyfF6NeflDXEQCQ44iHe8ZWUWvv8H6LzSocgpBvKIed1P/Tn1gNRD3taH7xtuQgm4pzxB8BFwpgT1iWe3i8/9A= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:54:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Not for Anne Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SIt6SD007501 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And maybe not for other Wordslers. But try it out! http://earth.google.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 14:33:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SJX8Jr021221 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:33:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:33:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069FA1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:33:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4398736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:33:08 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SJX7JF013234 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:33:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005062819330701600i4oioe>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:33:07 +0000 Message-ID: <42C1A5F2.8030401@istori.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:33:06 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <42C194B7.50202@istori.com> <8ddfc8a7050628113457810368@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050628113457810368@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen writes, > CD-Text I use an older Nero, but it's gotten too big/expensive in the current verion. cdrecord is a port of a Unix tool -- minimal UI, but full-featured and supports CD-Text. Probably well worth checking out if you don't mind command-line sorts of stuff. (Minimal UI is much better than UI gone mad.) I use ExactAudioCopy for ripping (it's the best :-), and it supports writing on some drives, but I haven't used it for that. It's got some CD-Text support, although I'm not sure which direction. It also has good CDDB/Freedb support. You might look at this: http://www.dcsoft.com/cue_mastering_progs.htm It's old, and some of the programs will have evolved (or devolved), but it might provide some useful context. My go-to place for Windows freeware is: http://www.nonags.com/nonags/menu.html The appropriate category there is "CDR/W Tools", which has things like this: http://www.cdburnerxp.se/ Haven't tried it, but looks promising. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 14:49:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SJncJr024348 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:49:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:49:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F99F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:49:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4400044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:49:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SJnbm8015980 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:49:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so402308nzf for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr3835335nzx; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:49:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ml8fI5mWz22nKXpxSEvGSMsTSphXPgzYqzZMjinFC67cgZe6TVUsAQ5DSTIrqgwiCrNILCW7A79QD+mvjyjX8ceSFagjtP5kx9FtgFIo/dJp6v3EDMnqwR3L0TKuPIFpH8v4p/dhxe6Qfnf32A5nV0cJjCEdWP/FEoJ+K87+Aac= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062812495ed95d42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:49:08 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: <42C1A5F2.8030401@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <42C194B7.50202@istori.com> <8ddfc8a7050628113457810368@mail.gmail.com> <42C1A5F2.8030401@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SJncm8015981 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You are, indeed, the Duke of URL. Thanks, that's exactly what I was hoping for. Karen On 6/28/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen writes, > > > CD-Text > > I use an older Nero, but it's gotten too big/expensive in the current > verion. > > cdrecord is a port of a Unix tool -- minimal UI, but full-featured and > supports CD-Text. Probably well worth checking out if you don't mind > command-line sorts of stuff. (Minimal UI is much better than UI gone mad.) > > I use ExactAudioCopy for ripping (it's the best :-), and it supports > writing on some drives, but I haven't used it for that. It's got some > CD-Text support, although I'm not sure which direction. It also has > good CDDB/Freedb support. > > You might look at this: > > http://www.dcsoft.com/cue_mastering_progs.htm > > It's old, and some of the programs will have evolved (or devolved), but > it might provide some useful context. > > My go-to place for Windows freeware is: > > http://www.nonags.com/nonags/menu.html > > The appropriate category there is "CDR/W Tools", which has things like this: > > http://www.cdburnerxp.se/ > > Haven't tried it, but looks promising. > > Pete > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:13:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKDUJr027585 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:13:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:13:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F9EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:03:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4401041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:03:39 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SK3dCK018110 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:03:39 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:03:39 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:03:08 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Is there a term... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kerry didn't - as far as I know. I'm only saying that I've heard the phrase before - that it's interesting that GWB is using it. BrP >>> dan@GAILNDAN.COM 06/28/05 3:55 PM >>> 6/28/2005, 12:54 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> "Kerry's plan for Iraq offers a fresh start. He will get more PB> countries involved by showing them we have a clear strategy for success, PB> giving them a stake in Iraq and using the power of the presidency to PB> bring the world in." Now if Kerry had articulated just HOW in the HELL he would have gotten more countries involved, with or without some "clear strategy for success", he probably would have won. But he didn't. It was just rhetoric with no indication of such a thing being possible. Now if he ever DID articulate that, and I missed it, please point me to what it was and where I can find it. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:13:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKDUJr027581 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:13:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:13:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069F9B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:53:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4400227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:53:29 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SJrS5G016404 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:53:28 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24171969 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:05:32 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:53:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:53:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <198605646.20050628135327@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: References: <298803458.20050628115028@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 243, in=101316, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/28/2005, 12:47 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: >> Fairly Reliable Bob's TH> There were two electrical contractors in Toronto when I was a kid, called TH> Goodenough Electric TH> and TH> Adequate Wiring. Isn't the first word of the first of these an actual surname? Seems I've run across it in British usage. But it is funny. Now I don't know, and have never heard of, anyone named Adequate. Although it wouldn't surprise me if some "movie star" or "media luminary" named their first kid something like that. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:13:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKDUJr027586 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:13:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:13:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069FBD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:13:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4401613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:13:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SKDBWB019424 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:13:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so385859nzf for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.4 with SMTP id q4mr2627382nzq; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:12:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XiRjpeEklex+alKLMnXH+UNg1/I0maL22CvOy+u/WPzg0AinnCB8Olzxfi4z4tRuN7qhIsmm1SFQfbqO4ClvDTrsdQ0bPbfrE+DSTEob33Pys0ioFc5BlOp8aqkZf40kzSKoEf6w75SjaCvAWlnMR4UMAPapSVeQ0A7o8j0NCB8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062813121363ea52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:12:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: <806112514.20050628135524@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <806112514.20050628135524@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SKDBWB019435 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Now if Kerry had articulated just HOW in the HELL he would have gotten > more countries involved, with or without some "clear strategy for > success", he probably would have won. But he didn't. It was just > rhetoric with no indication of such a thing being possible. Do you expect anything different tonight? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:13:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKDUJr027583 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:13:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:13:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069FAC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:55:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4400337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:55:28 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SJtP2e016662 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:55:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24252902 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:55:42 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:55:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:55:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <806112514.20050628135524@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 240, in=87019, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/28/2005, 12:54 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> "Kerry's plan for Iraq offers a fresh start. He will get more PB> countries involved by showing them we have a clear strategy for success, PB> giving them a stake in Iraq and using the power of the presidency to PB> bring the world in." Now if Kerry had articulated just HOW in the HELL he would have gotten more countries involved, with or without some "clear strategy for success", he probably would have won. But he didn't. It was just rhetoric with no indication of such a thing being possible. Now if he ever DID articulate that, and I missed it, please point me to what it was and where I can find it. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:18:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKIRJr028057 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:18:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:18:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069FBED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:18:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4401933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:18:26 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SKIOoF020154 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:18:25 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24255281 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:18:42 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:18:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:18:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <51468460.20050628141824@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 240, in=87036, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/28/2005, 2:03 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> Kerry didn't - as far as I know. I'm only saying that I've heard the PB> phrase before - that it's interesting that GWB is using it. Understood your original point....was just expanding on it with a thought that it brought up. But depending on WHEN Kerry said it, he may have copied it from the speech by the Pakistani rep to Security Council on 10/13/04 at http://www.un.int/pakistan/00homesc123104 since it appears he didn't use it until 10/20, though the webpage on his website with that news release isn't there any more and I'm not going to search further for it. or from the Coca Cola 2003 annual report....where they had a "crystal-clear strategy for success" http://www2.coca-cola.com/investors/annualandotherreports/2003/ourplan.shtml which sounds better than Kerry's watered down version. Isn't google fun? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:29:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKTEJr029387 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:29:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:29:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069FA34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:19:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4401964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:19:14 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SKJDWT020248 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:19:13 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23248709 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:03:12 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:19:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:19:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <89542246.20050628141913@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062813121363ea52@mail.gmail.com> References: <806112514.20050628135524@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062813121363ea52@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 238, in=84945, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/28/2005, 2:12 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> On 6/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: >> Now if Kerry had articulated just HOW in the HELL he would have gotten >> more countries involved, with or without some "clear strategy for >> success", he probably would have won. But he didn't. It was just >> rhetoric with no indication of such a thing being possible. AFoA> Do you expect anything different tonight? No. But that wasn't the point. The point was that if Kerry REALLY had one, he screwed up badly by not explaining it to the voters. Hell, if he had one that was believable, even I would have voted for the guy. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:29:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKTEJr029391 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:29:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:29:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069FA46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:25:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4402244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:25:35 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SKPZZP020911 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:25:35 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so701779wra for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.13.10 with SMTP id 10mr233585wrm; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:25:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pMDJD2jZGXSVq7Obob2+jNzCVBVWgf2ne+pCUOGIuEosefPtQau6gSfZm85LeD72YqsAq2zFmu7EtKKfY7/hr20+EstF1ke9IzTgyU66WfNPs+VkO6zqd12SbDQOsUs4PuRzAvdbHSyP3p43HT52E1NpLiPydL+3cjzOxqVAoZc= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:25:34 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506271817360a8f0a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a70506271817360a8f0a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5SKTEJr029391 Okay, I have deleted mail, I just forgot -- BUT, it should be right on the screen not under a drop down menu. Marie On 6/27/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > On 6/27/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > Granted, I'm a little these days. But what kind of "pilot" > is > > gmail running where they don't ask for feedback? Is it just me, or is it > > just plain stupid to not have a "delete" option? I end up archiving all > > sorts of total CRAP. > > Huh? You can delete mail. There are two different ways. > > For an individual message that is open, click More Options and then > Trash this message. > > If you want to select a whole bunch, click the checkbox to the left, > and then select Move to Trash from the More Actions... drop-down box. > > I forget if the Trash folder empties automatically or if you have to > empty it yourself. You can select All at the top, which clicks all the > checkboxes, and then click Delete Forever. > > It's that big deal a deal. > > Have you RTFMed? > > Karen > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:29:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKTEJr029389 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:29:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:29:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069FBF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:22:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4402092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:22:37 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SKMbSk020613 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:22:37 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so701403wra for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.68.16 with SMTP id q16mr228737wra; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:22:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Cc2CCoWtdP548m6Mgw2Q+XuZsqMT2aQd/wPGKF1GKL41H3S8D480plyw8B7i35iZspmhQ6/CVIufg8pasI565Tyjpjr7dwUu0JofBY90kg9G/sCLLU1a9wd1TQnMYjybV2MnGeKV8sZc19VhgVDDRoHVv1CCdhECOVbQwbmd80c= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:22:36 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5SKTEJr029389 ITunes. Marie On 6/27/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > I want free software that will not only record or copy tracks to a CD, > but which will write the names of the tracks. (With the native Windows > software, whatever it is, all the tracks show up as "Track1 Track2" > etc.) > > Am I dreaming, or is there something like this? > > Karen > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:32:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKWcJr029763 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:32:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:32:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069FB70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:32:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4402091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:32:37 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5SKMaUx020608 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:22:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 84054 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Jun 2005 20:22:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:22:35 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... Message-ID: <20050628202235.GA66906@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:45:18PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 06/28/05 2:24 PM >>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:44:21PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >> ..for phrases that are immediately marked as lies by the very > >> fact of needing to be said at all ? > >> > >> like: > >> > >> "Honest John's Used Cars" > >> "Clean Rooms Motel" > >> or > >> "I think we have a clear strategy for success" > > >None of these is a lie by virtue of needing to be said. > >So, let's have some convincing examples first ... > > > ok then. Let me be more direct. > > George Bush wouldn't need to go on television tonight to say "I > think we have a clear strategy for success" if he really had one. Ah. Well, that's marked as a lie because of reasonable prejudice on the listener's part. But at least something was accomplished here: "greater directness". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:39:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKdPJr030445 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:39:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:39:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069FA7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:39:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4402996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:39:25 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SKdMbb022707 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:39:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so408960nzf for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr1178126nzc; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:38:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cw2s2Llpp/u426ejAMLg1zRvjP2N8H1d5gkCVU67g8zdzsPzQ/Vp7A9axbLxZ/pQGbp7e6bRRy36KiJudn1SqqEuV+lzo34kaEbXH4H0K0iX6exQE7SbV5kuq0UcEltq72TEcBfWNoLeFj9zAda21lG7kWSBNvjV8viHjGjSAAE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050628133835c8f1a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:38:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: <89542246.20050628141913@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <806112514.20050628135524@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062813121363ea52@mail.gmail.com> <89542246.20050628141913@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SKdNbb022710 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: > Hell, if he had one that was believable, even I would have voted for > the guy. Uh-huh. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:50:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKobJr031836 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:50:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:50:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE8066@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:34:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4402762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:34:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SKY4Rg022098 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:34:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so388654nzf for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.96.18 with SMTP id t18mr5014771nzb; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DNMIeVM8OgQliKZAahlbg3xNJl04kCmKB4DaCmPXaj+JcPto6K4g99kD2ykAujTFUpbWmGXrgu2ms5muICbLRc3E88DQyFbN7Gt3DHbteDD4yBqBZn25aHzfhyvED2MMbhSN0JlCp9dGVtyGpzr+i5AY3Qft0P5aSihGG7t8Xeo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506281333fc9351f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:33:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70506271817360a8f0a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SKY4Rg022099 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/28/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Okay, I have deleted mail, I just forgot -- BUT, it should be right on the > screen not under a > drop down menu. Not when your main "selling point" is that you never need to delete. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:58:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKw6Jr000023 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:58:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:58:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069FC6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:50:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4403631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:50:59 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SKowDe024385 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:50:59 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:50:58 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:50:20 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Is there a term... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU the "greater directness" was referring to my comments about GWB not GWB's comments about the war. >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/28/05 4:47 PM >>> How can you have "greater directness" with no timetable? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:58:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKw6Jr000021 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:58:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:58:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069FC55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:48:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4403354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:48:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SKm2Tx023776 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:48:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so394368nzi for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.11 with SMTP id x11mr3675174nzx; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:47:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pFVJljnClY1sV/6wkSmaS1pElffOFODhvHNdrCTqkRsAWaeEEB9CxNtqSucKH31Nf2SCab73FI0P/9V2lPHYRVwJhCtatBeKDaWsx+RheWYV+K1GFeR5occyfZ0NoZLr41sILt/JAV2Y79VVhMx+5WQun77BFuTRzCoopSrRnrU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506281347164c8642@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:47:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: <20050628202235.GA66906@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050628202235.GA66906@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SKm3Tx023777 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/28/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:45:18PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 06/28/05 2:24 PM >>> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:44:21PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > >> ..for phrases that are immediately marked as lies by the very > > >> fact of needing to be said at all ? > > >> > > >> like: > > >> > > >> "Honest John's Used Cars" > > >> "Clean Rooms Motel" > > >> or > > >> "I think we have a clear strategy for success" > > > > >None of these is a lie by virtue of needing to be said. > > >So, let's have some convincing examples first ... > > > > > > ok then. Let me be more direct. > > > > George Bush wouldn't need to go on television tonight to say "I > > think we have a clear strategy for success" if he really had one. > > Ah. Well, that's marked as a lie because of reasonable prejudice > on the listener's part. > > But at least something was accomplished here: "greater directness". How can you have "greater directness" with no timetable? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 15:58:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SKw6Jr000022 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:58:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:58:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069FC57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:48:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4403385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:48:41 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SKmf2e023850 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:48:41 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:48:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:48:07 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Is there a term... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU indeed any degree of subtlety invites obsession with irrelevant detail BrP >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 06/28/05 4:22 PM >>> But at least something was accomplished here: "greater directness". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 16:13:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SLDnJr001904 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:13:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:13:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069FC6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:05:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4404004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:05:53 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5SKtreb025191 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:55:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 2501 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Jun 2005 20:55:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:55:52 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... Message-ID: <20050628205552.GB98673@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 04:48:07PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > indeed > > any degree of subtlety invites obsession with irrelevant detail Now there IS a term for "subtle" as you use it: "bitchy" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 16:13:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SLDnJr001903 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:13:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:13:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0069FD06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:03:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4403880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:03:48 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5SKrlCv024912 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:53:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 1104 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Jun 2005 20:53:46 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:53:46 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... Message-ID: <20050628205346.GA98673@words-l.org> References: <20050628202235.GA66906@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506281347164c8642@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506281347164c8642@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 03:47:17PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/28/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:45:18PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 06/28/05 2:24 PM >>> > > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:44:21PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > > > >> ..for phrases that are immediately marked as lies by the very > > > >> fact of needing to be said at all ? > > > >> > > > >> like: > > > >> > > > >> "Honest John's Used Cars" > > > >> "Clean Rooms Motel" > > > >> or > > > >> "I think we have a clear strategy for success" > > > > > > >None of these is a lie by virtue of needing to be said. > > > >So, let's have some convincing examples first ... > > > > > > > > > ok then. Let me be more direct. > > > > > > George Bush wouldn't need to go on television tonight to say "I > > > think we have a clear strategy for success" if he really had one. > > > > Ah. Well, that's marked as a lie because of reasonable prejudice > > on the listener's part. > > > > But at least something was accomplished here: "greater directness". > > How can you have "greater directness" with no timetable? I am talking about our friend "Paul Barfoot", whose directness is preferable to his earlier unnecessary question for the term for a lie or whatever ... I don't know where sneakiness like that is learned and why people resort to it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 16:31:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SLVjJr003627 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:31:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:31:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069FC0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:31:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4407566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:31:44 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SLViMr031000 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:31:44 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so416162nzf for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.27 with SMTP id t27mr331102nzg; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:31:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q4I5lXQ114yzxWA1qCzf8Kv37isY5gKbUHKWxdwZOC3lpi9bn9rDRBh6y7tHd9AprvuU6APh+TGsAXb+TJhr73YTnqB8ePwVyFqnznRIU62hD43HPXrTMFna4vm1VJ0Me6jD1f2ncauKauffpU/IDh3b/MWJjJsScaP/Mq1ZO1g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062814311724b91@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:31:17 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: <20050628205346.GA98673@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050628202235.GA66906@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506281347164c8642@mail.gmail.com> <20050628205346.GA98673@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5SLViMr031002 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/28/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > I don't know where sneakiness like > that is learned and why people resort to it. I am a bad influence. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 17:15:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SMFQJr008221 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:15:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:15:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0069FDFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:15:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4409480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:15:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5SM5O5T002463 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:05:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 43390 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Jun 2005 22:05:23 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:05:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a term... Message-ID: <20050628220523.GA41317@words-l.org> References: <20050628202235.GA66906@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70506281347164c8642@mail.gmail.com> <20050628205346.GA98673@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a705062814311724b91@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062814311724b91@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 04:31:17PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/28/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > I don't know where sneakiness like > > that is learned and why people resort to it. > > I am a bad influence. I think people have to be born with "subtlety"--still, why is your tone so pleased? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 17:32:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5SMWVJr009785 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:32:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:32:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0069FD10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:20:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4410377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:20:57 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5SMKuSv004204 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:20:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23261611 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:04:56 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:21:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:20:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <309341841.20050628162055@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Is there a term... In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050628133835c8f1a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <806112514.20050628135524@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062813121363ea52@mail.gmail.com> <89542246.20050628141913@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a7050628133835c8f1a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 238, in=85021, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/28/2005, 2:38 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> On 6/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: >> Hell, if he had one that was believable, even I would have voted for >> the guy. AFoA> Uh-huh. Doubt all you want. But that would have turned it for me. Of course being in Idaho it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference in the electoral process. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 19:29:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T0TbJr023061 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:29:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:29:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A0284@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:29:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4417055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:29:36 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5T0TZqP017323 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:29:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 879 invoked by uid 89); 29 Jun 2005 00:29:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20050629002935.878.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: It Works Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:29:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The wireless internet works fine here at La Quinta of Chattanooga. But my software acts suspicious, telling me that it's an . Gonna log off now and dump some pictures from the camera to the computer. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 21:27:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T2RWJr005727 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:27:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:27:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A06EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:27:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4424635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:27:31 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5T2RVh0028072 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:27:31 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B585F8FDD89B8 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:27:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000401c57c52$1760ceb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Not for Anne Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:27:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: Not for Anne > And maybe not for other Wordslers. But try it out! > > http://earth.google.com/ I'm having a helluva time installing this. Think it's done and then it brings up the same windows again to install, with confusing messages. I give up. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 21:34:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T2Y3Jr006548 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:34:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:34:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A0769@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:34:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4425707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:34:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5T2Y2Ir028956 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:34:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so425588nzf for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr5298952nzc; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:34:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=R/facVOBLqmo9h7bosEAEgwpjajDjnu9I0sj1Sg/BBprYzr9PVnpClxKtmsPoJn81Dz6iAXU/YwhQIs22J87hE6pzhE1pp6Ap8slD6g8SsDeCkkFVGFSrfSvmigzt2FzQAlQOYoAKfzqtq0Dps1ayu1OSZO4JC53NLOpmsM1BGY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062819346db58780@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:34:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70506281933794dd3fe@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000401c57c52$1760ceb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70506281933794dd3fe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5T2Y2Ir028957 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The best part was flying from Austin to Honolulu and waving to Mem. Karen On 6/28/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I'm sorry you're having trouble. My installs were simple, and the tool > is amazing. I could see pretty much excruciating detail. > > Karen > > On 6/28/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A Friend of Andy" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:54 PM > > Subject: Not for Anne > > > > > > > And maybe not for other Wordslers. But try it out! > > > > > > http://earth.google.com/ > > > > > > I'm having a helluva time installing this. Think it's > > done and then it brings up the same windows again > > to install, with confusing messages. I give up. > > > > - D. M. > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 21:36:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T2aHJr006728 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:36:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:36:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE8BBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:33:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4425558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:33:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5T2XV9r028852 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:33:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so446367nzf for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.14 with SMTP id j14mr1128999nzj; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:33:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I1kypYVhcooODff8IG0fRtxEcu2vPhyYOOPocua3NIA30WHylRXHzAj76s6Xg882u2bgt5uVeY8wnL7/5LJ7wqgKbzNXLq8cfz5TpXvZ9NFJt+kD3d3Seh6fV++CsAJ2wP9BlS8Ye8HFh8jFKDL3oy3NyUGaxJnQTL0rHRTa46U= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506281933794dd3fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:33:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne In-Reply-To: <000401c57c52$1760ceb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000401c57c52$1760ceb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5T2XV9r028853 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm sorry you're having trouble. My installs were simple, and the tool is amazing. I could see pretty much excruciating detail. Karen On 6/28/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Friend of Andy" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:54 PM > Subject: Not for Anne > > > > And maybe not for other Wordslers. But try it out! > > > > http://earth.google.com/ > > > I'm having a helluva time installing this. Think it's > done and then it brings up the same windows again > to install, with confusing messages. I give up. > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 21:36:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T2aHJr006726 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:36:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:36:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE8B22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:26:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4424404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:26:16 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5T2QFk6027929 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:26:16 -0400 Received: from [24.150.87.222] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 74186985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:26:15 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050628192321.01bf6950@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:26:12 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Niagara Falls In-Reply-To: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> References: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Not disappointed at all. Awesome, in fact. We walked above, along, behind, below the falls and felt the noise and spray. The Butterfly Conservatory was very enjoyable as well. Tomorrow, Niagara on the Lake. Had dinner at Frank's Tomato Pie. Inn people talk to much. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 21:58:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T2wOJr010248 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:58:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:58:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FE8C53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:48:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4426735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:48:17 -0400 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5T2mGii030173 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:48:16 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.208.3ec2c7c (3699) for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:48:11 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <208.3ec2c7c.2ff365eb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:48:11 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] doncha just love the news? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 6/28/2005 12:53:04 PM Central Daylight Time, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: << I have a prediction - fodder for both Leno and Letterman tonight >> Not Leno: it's Wimbledon week, and the Tonight Show will be delayed 15 minutes. Leno took this week off. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com www.saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jun 28 23:49:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T4n3Jr024610 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:49:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:49:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A1686@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 0:49:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4455176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:49:03 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5T4n2No010314 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:49:02 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FE9CF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 0:49:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200506290449.j5T4n2No010314@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:49:02 -0400 From: "Mrs. Williams" Subject: Re: Niagara Falls To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:26:12 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >Not disappointed at all. Awesome, in fact. We walked above, along, >behind, below the falls and felt the noise and spray. >The Butterfly Conservatory was very enjoyable as well. Tomorrow, Niagara >on the Lake. Enjoy your honeymoon! > >Had dinner at Frank's Tomato Pie. Whadjeet? > >Inn people talk to much. > >Betty Tell them to STF up! :). Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 02:18:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T7I0Jr012668 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:18:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:18:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A18D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 3:18:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4460929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 03:18:00 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5T7Hxoe022844 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 03:17:59 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062909161325054 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:16:13 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:17:58 +0200 Message-ID: <42C24B25.4020809@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:17:57 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2005 07:17:58.0489 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD46F490:01C57C7A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 28.06.2005 20:54: >And maybe not for other Wordslers. But try it out! > >http://earth.google.com/ > > > Great fun! 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TEL:0086+755-27528752FAX:0086+755-27528752 Mobile: +008613827465766 http://www.cctvcameras.cn E-mail:sales@cctvcameras.cn jammewu@yahoo.com.cn MSN: jammewu@hotmail.com Skype:jammewu Market Department: Jamme Wu From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 02:20:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T7JsJr012935 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:19:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:20:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A182D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 3:19:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4460966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 03:19:54 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5T7JqT6022965 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 03:19:53 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005062909180825062 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:18:08 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.12] ([128.39.111.12]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:19:52 +0200 Message-ID: <42C24B98.5050308@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:19:52 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000401c57c52$1760ceb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70506281933794dd3fe@mail.gmail.com> <8ddfc8a705062819346db58780@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062819346db58780@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2005 07:19:52.0598 (UTC) FILETIME=[F14A9B60:01C57C7A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I looked again at the maze of islands where I got lost last Thursday. Espen A Friend of Andy skrev 29.06.2005 04:34: >The best part was flying from Austin to Honolulu and waving to Mem. > >Karen > >On 6/28/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >>I'm sorry you're having trouble. My installs were simple, and the tool >>is amazing. I could see pretty much excruciating detail. >> >>Karen >> >>On 6/28/05, Doris Markland wrote: >> >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "A Friend of Andy" >>>To: >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:54 PM >>>Subject: Not for Anne >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>And maybe not for other Wordslers. But try it out! >>>> >>>>http://earth.google.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>I'm having a helluva time installing this. Think it's >>>done and then it brings up the same windows again >>>to install, with confusing messages. I give up. >>> >>> - D. M. >>> >>> >>> > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 04:48:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T9m8Jr006906 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 04:48:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 04:48:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A1CD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 5:38:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4473350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 05:38:08 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5T9c7YN004782 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 05:38:07 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24221009 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:50:15 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.84.174]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:38:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 03:38:07 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <103227946.20050629033807@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It Works In-Reply-To: <20050629002935.878.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <20050629002935.878.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 243, in=101578, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That just means it is an open network. Presumably you didn't have to log in to the network or authenticate in any way with the hotel. Right? It also means some evil person could be in his van in the parking lot also on the open network and potentially doing evil things to your computer. Of course the chances of that are essentially zero. dan 6/28/2005, 6:29 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> The wireless internet works fine here at La Quinta of Chattanooga. But my NM> software acts suspicious, telling me that it's an . NM> Gonna log off now and dump some pictures from the camera to the computer. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 08:29:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TDTdJr004694 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:29:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:29:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEAB5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 9:29:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4483733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:29:39 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TDTdeJ029724 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:29:39 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:29:39 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:28:59 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: coming soon to syracuse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ONE LOVE: THE HEALING OF SYRACUSE CONCERT SERIES July 21st - 23rd 2 - 90min. performance/lectures per day at various public sites throughout our toughest neighborhoods (N.S.E.&W.) Community Centers, Summer School Programs, Churches, Parks, Streets, etc.. (places where our youth congregate: TBA) 1 - all day long "ONE LOVE: Peace in the Street" free public concert. Location TBA (looking at the near South Side) We have invited Internationally-acclaimed Jamaican recording artist Abijah and American authors Julia & Robert Roskind to be in the Syracuse area July 19 to 23 to host a series of "One Love: The Healing of Syracuse Concerts." Events are being planned at various locations throughout the community (tba). see: http://rastaheart.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- should be interesting! BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 08:30:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TDUpJr004908 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:30:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:30:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A203F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 9:30:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4483798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:30:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TDUoY6030039 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:30:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so279558nzn for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 06:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.77 with SMTP id u77mr6747864nzg; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 06:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 06:30:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SvzK6Hq5O0rsb9ozec3flmPun+7zMGw0nTWrYt7e3fa0vYz+4S5Q+b+y38Fi0LT7iHme7lHD552hWvWpGJAQ52s/s++RrLbkFDaKMhCbY29Goy9H4S3rN9Vbf2KWvgnYkYW/INjPC/fcMnvloTCsOH1yudE8QO+mwWRJymX2PBk= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:30:50 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Torkel's on Metafilter! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5TDUoY6030040 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/43130 Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 08:41:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TDfAJr006499 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:41:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:41:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEAB8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 9:41:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4484836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:41:09 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TDf9c4000313 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:41:09 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B58588FC490F7 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:41:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Lessons in Treachery Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:41:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5TDfAJr006499 Well, coupla days ago we learned how easy it would be to (infect, poison, alter) the milk supply of the whole country. This morning we're having lessons on the news in how easy it would be for terrorists to use any our small airports. I wonder if CNN, NPR etc etc should not just print a small handbook of ideas and instructions . . . - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 08:46:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TDkeJr007223 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:46:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:46:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEABF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 9:46:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4485247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:46:40 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TDkeNE001527 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:46:40 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5TDkevR009958 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:46:40 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5TDkLAv014320 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:46:22 -0400 Message-ID: <03fc01c57cb0$ef897ae0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Subject: Re: Lessons in Treachery Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:46:21 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Markland" Well, coupla days ago we learned how easy it would be to (infect, poison, alter) the milk supply of the whole country. This morning we're having lessons on the news in how easy it would be for terrorists to use any our small airports. I wonder if CNN, NPR etc etc should not just print a small handbook of ideas and instructions . . . - D. M. "If you want to see what we're talking about, it's on our web site, at NPR.ORG" -Steve Inskeep From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 08:57:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TDv6Jr008780 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:57:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:57:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A21EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 9:57:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4486044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:57:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TDv51k003461 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:57:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-9.gwi.net [216.195.163.9]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5TDv1dG052943; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:57:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629095450.01bf9350@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:56:50 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Lessons in Treachery In-Reply-To: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:41 AM 6/29/2005, Doris Markland wrote: >... I wonder if CNN, NPR etc etc should >not just print a small handbook of ideas and >instructions . . . By tone of your post, I presume that you don't think that such materials have already been compiled and distributed. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 09:11:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TEBWJr010723 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:11:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:11:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEAC74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:01:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4486419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:01:32 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TE1V9o004444 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:01:32 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F196B9669703 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:01:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c57cb3$0ade7af0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <6.2.1.2.0.20050629095450.01bf9350@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Lessons in Treachery Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:01:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:56 AM Subject: Re: Lessons in Treachery > At 09:41 AM 6/29/2005, Doris Markland wrote: >>... I wonder if CNN, NPR etc etc should >>not just print a small handbook of ideas and >>instructions . . . > > By tone of your post, I presume that you don't think that such materials > have already been compiled and distributed. > > cwv By our news media? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 09:54:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TEs1Jr016247 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:54:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:54:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A21D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:13:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4487131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:13:53 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TEDqIV006484 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:13:52 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:13:52 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:13:39 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: the news from the North Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Civil Marriage Act has passed the House of Commons and awaits approval by the Senate and Royal Assent from the Governor General (pretty much just a formality). In Alberta, PEI, Nunavut, and the NWT this changes things. Everywhere else it has already been changed. In any case, it is historic that the government has made this a Charter issue. Meanwhile, South of the border, the hot issue is flag burning. *sigh* BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 09:54:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TEs1Jr016250 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:54:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:54:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A23F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:35:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4488722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:35:54 -0400 Received: from web60720.mail.yahoo.com (web60720.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.208]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5TEZspb010665 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:35:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 41205 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jun 2005 14:35:53 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60720.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:35:53 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=29/Qhu5NTGwiX0E5R4mn3/F644EVmH/w6jL9E7WsiMDsz/wtJrlUBNefy8fnVvD0P3qTn4RrkS1TWSngG1KiB105ZDUl/K7meLdBejuzWb0O2HiKq8wiTTaxZmrd+IAH8CH51+v9bfATxntpTYjtdt8EgH35DsYv/BkuzveIzhI= ; Message-ID: <20050629143553.41203.qmail@web60720.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:35:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Lessons in Treachery To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: I wonder if CNN, NPR etc etc should > not just print a small handbook of ideas and > instructions . . . 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Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 09:54:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TEs1Jr016253 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:54:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:54:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2249@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:40:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4488993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:40:21 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TEeLdX011441 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:40:21 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1326638rnf for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.101.65 with SMTP id y65mr234581rnb; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:40:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s3O4feoeGGoYgQ+IPfDLUxFmFcomUvkO/p/JIN6bKbCAiNvBzFlSIhXvGshzA5XbYR9NGrYi0jns4RTNhPDbXVcqrx+cxv7mGWdXt5rbyxKgENdBvhvJinv9neF/QsB9tHQOGiVAWOmvXuMxQb//8DvC9W+YeETuZP4gtMwfY5A= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:40:18 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: <1294387682.20050628120510@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506281059749e19e8@mail.gmail.com> <1294387682.20050628120510@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5TEeLdX011443 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/28/2005, 11:59 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> CDDB. > > Yeah, that's it. > > AFoA> Does it have to check CDDB in order to know what the name is? That > AFoA> seems to me. > > As far as I know. Years ago you could (and maybe still can) download > the entire CDDB file....and I did so since I was on VERY slow dialup. > (downloaded it at work and took it home) I assume you all know/remember that a co-inventor of CDDB used to hang out on this very . Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 09:54:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TEs1Jr016252 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:54:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:54:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2220@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:29:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4488287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:29:43 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TETgGw009471 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:29:43 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1323953rnf for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.56 with SMTP id a56mr4192494rnb; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:29:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ia4Ud9fUqJlft8jMvHpIDIVWvOZORR6nk4UgUsEnQDmd67WwPO6ZgklXJ530xJ727YuXOnAK0MO26R40cp23XvoG5EMx+SQLRwplLEjKUIFjzPrpWJgNpQ5EexARUE+YZQNrdWHojmvi2My/K0tGYKXM1TVwmSIXJq+MmQ7Y2XY= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:29:40 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Niagara Falls In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050628192321.01bf6950@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050628192321.01bf6950@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5TEThGw009472 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/28/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Not disappointed at all. Awesome, in fact. We walked above, along, > behind, below the falls and felt the noise and spray. Awesome, but still plenty of tourist crap. And those new casinos are godawful in so many ways. > The Butterfly Conservatory was very enjoyable as well. Tomorrow, Niagara > on the Lake. NotL has some historic interest, but has also got pretty touristy, though in a Vermonty quaint sort of way rather than the theme park stuff at Niagara Falls. You'r not going to pop around to Toronto to say hello? You missed the Pride Parade last weekend. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 10:12:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TFBoJr018719 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:11:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:12:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2367@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:11:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4492667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:11:49 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TFBk0a019201 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:11:46 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24239759 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:23:58 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:12:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:11:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <272984697.20050629091144@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lessons in Treachery In-Reply-To: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 243, in=101688, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wouldn't worry about it. I'm betting that all of this has been on the net for ages, ten times over. And of course any organized terrorist groups have their own training sessions. And then there are our friends at Loompanics, who've been publishing this kind of stuff for a couple decades, at least. http://www.loompanics.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/TitleIndex.html?E+scstore gives you their title list, including such gems as: Advanced Techniques of Clandestine Psychedelic & Amphetamine Manufacture Art & Science of Money Laundering Bloody Brazilian Knife Fightin' Techniques Complete Guide to Lock Picking Conversations with a Pedophile Counterfeit I.D. Made Easy Do-It-Yourself Submachine Gun Hard-Core Collections (no, not bunches of dirty books...but getting the money back. a la Mafia style leg breaking, etc) How to Become a Professional Con Artist How to Circumvent a Security Alarm in 10 Seconds or Less and on and on.....those are only a few from the first few letters of the list. Interesting stuff.... dan 6/29/2005, 7:41 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> Well, coupla days ago we learned how easy DM> it would be to (infect, poison, alter) the milk DM> supply of the whole country. This morning DM> we're having lessons on the news in how easy DM> it would be for terrorists to use any our small DM> airports. I wonder if CNN, NPR etc etc should DM> not just print a small handbook of ideas and DM> instructions . . . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 10:12:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TFCVJr018761 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:12:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:12:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A2524@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:12:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4492701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:12:30 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TFCUQn019298 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:12:30 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24088820 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:37:48 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:13:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:12:29 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1926800523.20050629091229@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Lessons in Treachery In-Reply-To: <000601c57cb3$0ade7af0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <6.2.1.2.0.20050629095450.01bf9350@pop.gwi.net> <000601c57cb3$0ade7af0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 243, in=89120, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/29/2005, 8:01 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> By our news media? Doesn't the net count? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 10:14:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TFDnJr018930 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:13:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:14:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A247F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:13:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4492843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:13:49 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TFDmGA019604 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:13:48 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24240037 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:26:01 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:14:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:13:47 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1977344214.20050629091347@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506281059749e19e8@mail.gmail.com> <1294387682.20050628120510@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 243, in=101690, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/29/2005, 8:40 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: TH> I assume you all know/remember that a co-inventor of CDDB used to hang TH> out on this very . Yes. To say nothing of IMDB. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 10:18:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TFHtJr019610 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:17:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:18:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEAF22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:07:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4492211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:07:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TF7qIY018268 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:07:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so504492nzb for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.224.80 with SMTP id w80mr5755548nzg; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:07:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CwNQLe/XNJ6ipcPVDYRgFwFQuSRUkAxM6RAg69JF4GiAmiEVWh2HTLoXaNUKzRm7M/ABvZIuohUAkYHTM/iuhdqjsIQ6GGH2ElcVnGM7fmEjEcLBG2mHlpxsD0PcAgjdKhxRdiAjuHPZkr43cGOHfBu9NI/+yFzBQEM0YjDfze8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506290807626f1d67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:07:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506281059749e19e8@mail.gmail.com> <1294387682.20050628120510@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5TF7rIY018269 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yep. On 6/29/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 6/28/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 6/28/2005, 11:59 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > AFoA> CDDB. > > > > Yeah, that's it. > > > > AFoA> Does it have to check CDDB in order to know what the name is? That > > AFoA> seems to me. > > > > As far as I know. Years ago you could (and maybe still can) download > > the entire CDDB file....and I did so since I was on VERY slow dialup. > > (downloaded it at work and took it home) > > I assume you all know/remember that a co-inventor of CDDB used to hang > out on this very . > > Tony H. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 10:37:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TFbeJr022245 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:37:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:37:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2404@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:37:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4494986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:37:40 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TFbYSV024521 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:37:34 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so827538wra for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.64 with SMTP id e64mr118926wre; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:37:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hvio1e5oLmKFPRg9XFg0KFghym7Bi99O+MFHGD6AAQNScTg6sMvXijLEmEdRsLpc2f2s13XlBirkjatej8jHrkIMG+nRiOtz2B8cISXjDal9DULK4eRGby4UOjNt/Jw79g6BvUjdC6QDsMjRjjzvwR+ayjyWn9XlGWN5tFFO8gc= Message-ID: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:37:33 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from the North In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5TFbeJr022245 On 6/29/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > The Civil Marriage Act has passed the House of Commons and awaits > approval by the Senate and Royal Assent from the Governor General > (pretty much just a formality). In Alberta, PEI, Nunavut, and the NWT > this changes things. Everywhere else it has already been changed. In > any case, it is historic that the government has made this a Charter > issue. > > Meanwhile, South of the border, the hot issue is flag burning. So, how long do you think it will be before: 1. Condasleaza lectures Canada on democracy and civil rights. and 2. Either Rummy or Dubya accuses Canada of having WMD? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 10:40:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TFeYJr022583 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:40:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:40:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A25D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:40:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4495460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:40:33 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TFeWXm025611 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:40:32 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 876B31EBCDBC2 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:40:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001a01c57cc0$df088610$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a7050627164151be859d@mail.gmail.com> <1771232534.20050628115217@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a70506281059749e19e8@mail.gmail.com> <1294387682.20050628120510@gailndan.com> <1977344214.20050629091347@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: CD recording freeware? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:40:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: Re: CD recording freeware? > 6/29/2005, 8:40 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: > > TH> I assume you all know/remember that a co-inventor of CDDB used to hang > TH> out on this very . > > Yes. To say nothing of IMDB. No. Who? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 10:41:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TFetJr022646 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:40:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:41:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEB0AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:40:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4495503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:40:54 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TFesMu025697 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:40:54 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:40:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:40:40 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: the news from the North Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Weapons of Marital Destruction? Women and Men Divorcing ? >>> cwvoigt@GMAIL.COM 06/29/05 11:37 AM >>> Either Rummy or Dubya accuses Canada of having WMD? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 11:13:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TGDFJr026881 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:13:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:13:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2442@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:46:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4496007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:46:35 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TFkYl5026965 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:46:34 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-9.gwi.net [216.195.163.9]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5TFkVIc068745; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:46:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629114609.01c04b10@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:46:24 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: the news from the North In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:40 AM 6/29/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Weapons of Marital Destruction? > >Women and Men Divorcing ? Those, too. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 11:13:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TGDFJr026878 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:13:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:13:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A25DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:43:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4495614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:43:14 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TFhBMQ026057 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:43:11 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-9.gwi.net [216.195.163.9]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5TFh66b068407; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:43:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629113138.01c0ba98@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:32:23 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Lessons in Treachery In-Reply-To: <000601c57cb3$0ade7af0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <6.2.1.2.0.20050629095450.01bf9350@pop.gwi.net> <000601c57cb3$0ade7af0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:01 AM 6/29/2005, Doris Markland wrote: >>By tone of your post, I presume that you don't think that such materials >>have already been compiled and distributed. >> >>cwv > >By our news media? No---by people in that area of endeavor who have greater credibility than do the media. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 11:13:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TGDFJr026882 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:13:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:13:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A246B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:53:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4496676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:53:29 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TFrR3a028249 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:53:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23318465 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:37:40 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:53:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:53:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1259103694.20050629095326@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: the news from the North In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> References: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=85323, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/29/2005, 9:37 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: CV> So, how long do you think it will be before: CV> 1. Condasleaza lectures Canada on democracy and civil rights. and Never. CV> 2. Either Rummy or Dubya accuses Canada of having WMD? Never. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 11:37:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TGbIJr029583 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:37:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:37:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A26E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:27:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4499447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:27:18 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TGRG56003529 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:27:17 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5TGRFuS012502 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:27:16 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200506291627.j5TGRFuS012502@sm.luth.se> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Torkel's on Metafilter! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:40:24 +0200." <8865866a0506290740252a6948@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:27:15 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben points: >http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/43130 It's the usual mixture, I see. Fortunately, since I wrote my book, I am content to smile serenely, bobbing my head like a pot smoking mallard. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 11:37:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TGbIJr029584 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:37:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:37:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A2652@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:33:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4499926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:33:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TGXa9Z004413 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:33:36 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so538600nzf for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr4749151nzx; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:33:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BlJjmHlbRR2xapnXfNCF8S04BpgOEHKi4//tjDjM0XTaMOoY23dB9ZtcVK4KkZM0Z4n1Ut2S5Ze+vRNGhtsoaODVyozJ/MHesF0ulFjcbsZ4J+FDFJZOL5wKo/x9aKD855rtYHWvrKVhr30foWb08/2bPBPSvbPrf2sPt4+KoMI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062909335efa3805@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:33:36 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from the North In-Reply-To: <1259103694.20050629095326@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> <1259103694.20050629095326@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5TGXa9Z004416 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/29/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/29/2005, 9:37 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > CV> So, how long do you think it will be before: > CV> 1. Condasleaza lectures Canada on democracy and civil rights. and > > Never. You have more trust in her than I do. 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Sincerely, Jamme From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 12:16:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5THGBJr002160 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:16:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:16:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEB386@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:06:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4501942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:06:11 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TH6Abe008665 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:06:10 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1368027rnf for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.53 with SMTP id a53mr4390476rnb; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:06:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ivoZzfbbwTiqVlKCEcgWCGA6fKwePzUYTR7gV+ySbRF9N5z1CSFnnRUo68PnSscth0lSnZI+thJuYxdco9KHBR/SVNh14f8Lb0yXhGCrl/YH4KOWgtHfwOpqSwGKqPRnawPhgCupOnWLi1/kl9O4ctv2MJq8D8MojPvfw2mssPE= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:06:10 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from the North In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5TH6Abe008671 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/29/05, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > On 6/29/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > The Civil Marriage Act has passed the House of Commons and awaits > > approval by the Senate and Royal Assent from the Governor General > > (pretty much just a formality). In Alberta, PEI, Nunavut, and the NWT > > this changes things. Everywhere else it has already been changed. In > > any case, it is historic that the government has made this a Charter > > issue. > > > > Meanwhile, South of the border, the hot issue is flag burning. > > So, how long do you think it will be before: > 1. Condasleaza lectures Canada on democracy and civil rights. and > 2. Either Rummy or Dubya accuses Canada of having WMD? It's another amusing(?) cultural difference - Canada is one of a handful of countries that could have developed nuclear weapons decades ago, but chose not to. And doubtless Canadians would be outraged and appalled if someone in government tried to start a weapons programme. Yet many Americans (far from all, I realize) seem to be happy enough to have a monstrous nuclear arsenal aimed at a long-defeated enemy. Maybe it's a guy thing... Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 12:44:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5THigJr005695 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:44:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:44:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2634@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4503170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:41 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5THOZYx011517 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:35 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:35 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:25 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: natalie sighting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just got a call from her. She called because she was stuck in traffic on I 81 in Virginia. We talked for about a minute and then traffic began to move again. That is the entire Natalie Report. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 12:44:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5THigJr005694 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:44:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:44:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A27EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4503174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:43 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5THOf4n011529 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:41 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEB41B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200506291724.j5THOf4n011529@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:24:41 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Niagara Falls To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:29:40 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >On 6/28/05, Betty Clark wrote: >> Not disappointed at all. Awesome, in fact. We walked above, along, >> behind, below the falls and felt the noise and spray. > >Awesome, but still plenty of tourist crap. And those new casinos are >godawful in so many ways. > >> The Butterfly Conservatory was very enjoyable as well. Tomorrow, Niagara >> on the Lake. > >NotL has some historic interest, but has also got pretty touristy, >though in a Vermonty quaint sort of way rather than the theme park >stuff at Niagara Falls. > >You'r not going to pop around to Toronto to say hello? You missed the >Pride Parade last weekend. > >Tony H. Whyn't you haul yourself down to Syracuse for Strawberry Shortcastle? There's lotso room! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 12:46:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5THk6Jr005895 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:46:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:46:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A2870@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:46:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4504959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:46:06 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5THk5x4015058 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:46:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so848963wra for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.16.28 with SMTP id 28mr153619wrp; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:46:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=e4hONQHZEFBegF9+Gv/XXDmXMF8UH8P6Czil93ZuZH6VlnZWHbcnThLJAOy2gZK/nzzluwH804ZT1XH+7MjBKWqWYTwRzlahUAkYMOOF4Fk+Gm7jWqkschECFCKPSTl9sU6LnHF6iZSoMxQ8BekrlR/sp7fxzfu6QgRDVx5dm+Y= Message-ID: <83db447a05062910465d111489@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:46:05 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: natalie sighting In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5THk6Jr005895 On 6/29/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I just got a call from her. She called because she was stuck in > traffic on I 81 in Virginia. We talked for about a minute and then > traffic began to move again. > > That is the entire Natalie Report. ...which may go down in history as the shortest conversation involving Natalie, ever. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 12:49:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5THnbJr006373 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:49:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:49:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEB40A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:19:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4502850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:19:35 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5THJYPR010609 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:19:35 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:19:34 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:18:56 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Torkel's on Metafilter! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A delightful image BrP >>> torkel@SM.LUTH.SE 06/29/05 12:27 PM >>> ... bobbing my head like a pot smoking mallard. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 12:49:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5THnbJr006374 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:49:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:49:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEB512@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:48:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4505071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:48:15 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5THmENU015339 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:48:14 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so849311wra for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.13.63 with SMTP id 63mr150349wrm; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:48:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VcDB04cajWJkL5seLpMnvN1PTo7f7MlaA4Cqdg1w59afT1pspUwwWbr3Ldq/LdqJ8o4gLoaqHyAWqdDwl/DmSL3ZPS2+2qqY90fD6sChJSqHybHzJRAV2oHDPkR6h5dFBrTvGfprgfUw9CX+1s1Ik7YNMrGi3oiNzEt0wTdYrks= Message-ID: <83db447a0506291048494991c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:48:14 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from the North In-Reply-To: <1259103694.20050629095326@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> <1259103694.20050629095326@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5THnbJr006374 On 6/29/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > 6/29/2005, 9:37 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > CV> So, how long do you think it will be before: > CV> 1. Condasleaza lectures Canada on democracy and civil rights. and > > Never. Hey, she's been running around the world telling everybody else how to run their country/society, why should she stop short of Canada? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 13:25:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TIP8Jr011327 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:25:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:25:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A274A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:08:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4506242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:08:11 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TI8AxX018003 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:08:10 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:08:10 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:08:03 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: the news from the North Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>> cwvoigt@GMAIL.COM 06/29/05 1:48 PM >>> > Hey, she's been running around the world telling everybody else how to run >their country/society, why should she stop short of Canada? >cwv That's not the job of the Sec of State. That's the job of the Atty General. The sec of State tells the furriners how to behave. The Atty General scolds the younger siblings at home. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 13:25:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TIP8Jr011326 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:25:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:25:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A2842@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:05:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4506051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:05:07 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TI575m017591 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:05:07 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so851927wra for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.16.30 with SMTP id 30mr161579wrp; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:05:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Uxpu52LDwtOZq1XYamQCMiCdQ/umEiZMXWdL04vRMDutJwm+Am6t0G+cPkXHX8mcwXoXFLaXDzbOqn2OAm5TX7zYJcJaXBlgwx/Cagjvy7RPLSQ4Rt+rIV/5fN5oGG8TW80e8Kb6LP/nO9iC18ZRk6mxv+IXEvzbTIyq4AoVpIA= Message-ID: <83db447a05062911055943ff35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:05:06 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from the North In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5TIP8Jr011326 On 6/29/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > It's another amusing(?) cultural difference - Canada is one of a > handful of countries that could have developed nuclear weapons decades > ago, but chose not to. And doubtless Canadians would be outraged and > appalled if someone in government tried to start a weapons programme. I remember a little of that attitude when it became apparent to Canada that the great nuclear reactors (Can-dus?) that they supplied to India were being used for weapons development. There was a Canadian (J.W. McMahon) from the Chalk River Lab. on our IAEA committee; we had a few tense moments when the committee met in India. cwv. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 13:42:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TIgDJr013570 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:42:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:42:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEB6CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:42:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4508697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:42:12 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TIg5om023028 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:42:05 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEB6CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:42:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200506291842.j5TIg5om023028@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:42:05 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: How's Gene? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris, How is Gene doing? Is he starting to feel some progress, or is he still dealing with lots of pain? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 14:26:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TJQPJr019468 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:26:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:26:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A29CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:16:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4510617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:16:25 -0400 Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TJGOB0027327 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:16:24 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.14 (built Oct 8 2003)) id <0IIV009011I6I5@mail.hawaii.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:16:24 -1000 (HST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.14 (built Oct 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IIV006KG1J9OC@mail.hawaii.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:16:24 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:16:34 -1000 From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Subject: Re: the news from the North In-reply-to: <83db447a0506291048494991c2@mail.gmail.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-id: <42C266F2.10994.28E702@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body References: <1259103694.20050629095326@gailndan.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 29 Jun 2005 at 13:48, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > Hey, she's been running around the world telling everybody else how to > run their country/society, why should she stop short of Canada? Well, everybody except Saudi Arabia anyway. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 14:29:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TJTOJr019891 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:29:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:29:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A2AC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:29:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4511546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:29:24 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TJTO8q029168 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:29:24 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so864904wra for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.51.8 with SMTP id y8mr196529wry; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:29:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jkqIUqyNUH7vfqW/x84p4JSOGK+xKylp/mALeIxBxVL4PmfYVszjNPJTt7ofZDaNhjPmr1J5vvaJ92ezdXsLWNGGDXJGk2MsLgXqpNwBklwSYi3GCRDDzx6ji9CUiP6uWY5P5FWHlXMjxUxyJKCqzHW2pE34SQvgTqS0FlMK3bI= Message-ID: <83db447a05062912293d28ecee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:29:23 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from the North In-Reply-To: <42C266F2.10994.28E702@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <1259103694.20050629095326@gailndan.com> <83db447a0506291048494991c2@mail.gmail.com> <42C266F2.10994.28E702@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5TJTOJr019891 On 6/29/05, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > > > Well, everybody except Saudi Arabia anyway. You're right. I guess in White House parlance, they are "the good Indians." At least for now. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 14:30:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TJUZJr020107 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:30:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:30:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEB7E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:30:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4510879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:30:35 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5TJKWiQ027823 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:20:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 78484 invoked by uid 1003); 29 Jun 2005 19:20:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:20:31 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lessons in Treachery Message-ID: <20050629192031.GA75378@words-l.org> References: <000a01c57cb0$31f3d980$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <6.2.1.2.0.20050629095450.01bf9350@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629095450.01bf9350@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:56:50AM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 09:41 AM 6/29/2005, Doris Markland wrote: > >... I wonder if CNN, NPR etc etc should > >not just print a small handbook of ideas and > >instructions . . . > > By tone of your post, I presume that you don't think that such materials > have already been compiled and distributed. I, on the other hand, don't hear any thinking in the tone. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 14:55:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TJtnJr023035 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:55:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:55:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2951@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:45:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4512607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:45:49 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TJjmni031859 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:45:48 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6124F759D7301 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:45:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001501c57ce3$233e40f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200506291842.j5TIg5om023028@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: How's Gene? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:45:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Ostrander" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: How's Gene? > Doris, > How is Gene doing? Is he starting to feel some progress, > or is he still dealing with lots of pain? > clo Still dealing with pain but progressing well in therapy and healing nicely. Drove a car today for first time. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 16:19:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TLJBJr001444 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:19:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:19:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2C9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:09:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4521862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:09:11 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TL9A7t012965 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:09:10 -0400 Received: from [24.150.87.222] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 74475958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:09:09 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050629140852.01b5b340@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:09:08 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Torkel's on Metafilter! In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:30 AM 6/29/2005, you wrote: >http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/43130 > >Ben Totally cool! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 16:19:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TLJCJr001453 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:19:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:19:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A2E84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4522399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:12 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TLJBr7014509 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:11 -0400 Received: from [24.150.87.222] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 74479107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:19:11 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050629141048.01bb28e8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:19:09 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Niagara Falls In-Reply-To: References: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050628192321.01bf6950@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:29 AM 6/29/2005, Tony H wrote: >On 6/28/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > Not disappointed at all. Awesome, in fact. We walked above, along, > > behind, below the falls and felt the noise and spray. > >Awesome, but still plenty of tourist crap. And those new casinos are >godawful in so many ways. For sure, but I had to see them (the falls). Our Inn on River Road is quiet and pretty. We did discover the other parts of the city when we went in search of wine. We went to Niagara on the Lake today and had a nice lunch at the Angel Inn Pub. A good cold beer was in order because it was too hot to wander around much. We came back and crossed over to New York to see the view from that side. Tonight I'll walk down and see them lit up. We leave in the morning. > > The Butterfly Conservatory was very enjoyable as well. Tomorrow, Niagara > > on the Lake. > >NotL has some historic interest, but has also got pretty touristy, >though in a Vermonty quaint sort of way rather than the theme park >stuff at Niagara Falls. > >You'r not going to pop around to Toronto to say hello? You missed the >Pride Parade last weekend. Missed San Francisco's too! I'll go next year. I was hoping you and the family would be coming to Syracuse! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 16:29:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TLTcJr002445 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:29:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:29:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEBD4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:29:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4522901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:29:37 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TLTaVf015531 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:29:36 -0400 Received: from [24.150.87.222] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 74482746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:29:35 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050629142615.01bc0da8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:29:34 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Niagara Falls In-Reply-To: <200506290449.j5T4n2No010314@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506290449.j5T4n2No010314@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:49 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote: >On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:26:12 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > >Not disappointed at all. Awesome, in fact. We walked above, along, > >behind, below the falls and felt the noise and spray. > >The Butterfly Conservatory was very enjoyable as well. Tomorrow, Niagara > >on the Lake. > >Enjoy your honeymoon! This morning at breakfast it was announced that a couple staying at the inn had gotten engaged. They were very sweet. She couldn't stop looking at the diamond on her hand. Breakfast was much nicer this morning. > > > >Had dinner at Frank's Tomato Pie. > >Whadjeet? It was unpronounceable. Tasty chicken stuffed with something and wrapped with something else. > > > >Inn people talk to much. > > > >Betty > >Tell them to STF up! :). Fixing omelettes to order kept her busy and in the kitchen this morning! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 16:30:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TLUGJr002553 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:30:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:30:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEBDA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:30:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4522953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:30:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TLUEKE015620 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:30:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so573210nzf for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.14 with SMTP id j14mr1909225nzj; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:30:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YVvdVdfX+2HqBH3I4Mg2uNFDdI5KJ5HbDGZ76TBWZUfD55Eju7BAXJ0ipV43lfeGfJEOdt7AUcYzragUhxqsaI/U3Ex99ojfjRHpoYcq4iZ0mn2Ae9YhNXvwCVBGCvDSE8OB5d3NxmJPPgKWmqk7QPgpuqjMQAO5/ED0CTWXwJI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705062914306430fe72@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:30:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Niagara Falls In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050629141048.01bb28e8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050628192321.01bf6950@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050629141048.01bb28e8@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5TLUFKE015622 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/29/05, Betty Clark wrote: > For sure, but I had to see them (the falls). Did you go on the Maid of the Mist? That was my absolutely favorite experience--I dream about it sometimes still. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 16:40:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TLdxJr003553 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:40:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:40:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A2E4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:39:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4523686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:39:59 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TLdwNx016994 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:39:59 -0400 Received: from [24.150.87.222] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 74486144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:39:58 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050629143918.01cc5868@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:39:56 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Niagara Falls In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062914306430fe72@mail.gmail.com> References: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050628192321.01bf6950@calmail.berkeley.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050629141048.01bb28e8@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705062914306430fe72@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:30 PM 6/29/2005, you wrote: >On 6/29/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > For sure, but I had to see them (the falls). > >Did you go on the Maid of the Mist? That was my absolutely favorite >experience--I dream about it sometimes still. > >Karen Yes! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 16:47:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TLlTJr004572 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:47:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:47:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A2E73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:47:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4524185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:47:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TLlTbP017904 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:47:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so574680nzf for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.7 with SMTP id l7mr34103nzd; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:47:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=I8LoS0O01O8m3mGY53MpYgk8IU76lBops8px0Dj+UHjS7tfByfBZyRUAl5zfqNzqAmy8+58gJVwpX1Lwet6SFlNyMUG1y6XmFcCLpUjBUr54ZAqk2L7D1S33ICgJYNJSup77NyZSqN1AiHNsxR0ulrsOfY3HE31luf3hEzfQHJc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506291447274999d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:47:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: The whole job thing. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5TLlTbP017905 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I will hear about the job I interviewed for last week tomorrow. I sent thank you e-mail to everyone I talked to, per usual, but this time I got e-mail back from two people. One of them was the recruiter, and she just said that she'd let me know Thursday. The other one said that he really hopes they hire me, and wants to remain in contact no matter what. I really liked him--he really knows the business, and is articulate about it, so I agreed. In all the years I've been interviewing for jobs, I've never gotten a response to a thank you letter that wasn't totally pro forma. I was wondering if other people have. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 17:19:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TMJFJr008248 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A2F12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:09:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4525921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:09:14 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TM9E28020555 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:09:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23357484 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:53:16 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:09:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:08:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <626566830.20050629160858@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: the news from the North In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062909335efa3805@mail.gmail.com> References: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> <1259103694.20050629095326@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062909335efa3805@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 239, in=85605, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/29/2005, 10:33 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: >> CV> So, how long do you think it will be before: >> CV> 1. Condasleaza lectures Canada on democracy and civil rights. and >> >> Never. AFoA> You have more trust in her than I do. Not trust as such. She has more political savvy than that is all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 17:19:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TMJFJr008249 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2E11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:10:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4526002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:10:07 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TMA6uB020652 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:10:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24284228 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:22:23 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:10:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:10:05 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1699154556.20050629161005@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: the news from the North In-Reply-To: <83db447a0506291048494991c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> <1259103694.20050629095326@gailndan.com> <83db447a0506291048494991c2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 244, in=101986, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/29/2005, 11:48 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> CV> So, how long do you think it will be before: >> CV> 1. Condasleaza lectures Canada on democracy and civil rights. and >> >> Never. CV> Hey, she's been running around the world telling everybody else how to run CV> their country/society, why should she stop short of Canada? q.v. previous reply on this. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 17:19:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TMJFJr008250 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2E29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:13:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4526257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:13:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TMD2cg021056 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:13:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so576790nzf for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.27 with SMTP id t27mr24158nzg; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:13:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WWzD1xFzPy4NMixDF4XGQMfT6qbMTnKBHrY0Lorr8F7IdTBn06bKENeRFsKqmeFW+J/FZhHUAuXqc/ypPxyjjuh+SX/pvGrIQkLtgORchZoKIxecpLLtpGBmg6MPbUDeh7Tn9uf71KYVWRRmaeHbrwELwMEATt4AdfDbINsNTV0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050629151376855098@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:13:02 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from the North In-Reply-To: <626566830.20050629160858@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <83db447a0506290837530e0d19@mail.gmail.com> <1259103694.20050629095326@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705062909335efa3805@mail.gmail.com> <626566830.20050629160858@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5TMD2cg021058 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/29/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/29/2005, 10:33 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >> CV> So, how long do you think it will be before: > >> CV> 1. Condasleaza lectures Canada on democracy and civil rights. and > >> > >> Never. > > AFoA> You have more trust in her than I do. > > Not trust as such. She has more political savvy than that is all. LOL! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 17:19:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TMJFJs008248 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:19:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A2FE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:13:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4525701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:13:57 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f13.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TM3usZ020105 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:03:56 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:03:55 -0700 Received: from 64.4.61.204 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:03:55 GMT Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.204] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: That time of year again Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:03:55 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2005 22:03:55.0859 (UTC) FILETIME=[7189EA30:01C57CF6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy FF everybody! Hope FingerFest is a grand success and all festers have a great time. I'm sorry I won't be able to make it. I'm a little travelled out. I was in MN last week where it was in the 90s. Great rollerblading trails though. I stayed away from the lutefisk. People were nice but not noticeably so. One thing I noticed was the accent. I want to go in February next time ... -rashmi From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 18:24:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TNOYJr015501 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:24:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:24:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A30CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:24:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4529547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:24:34 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TNOX2o029636 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:24:33 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEC0BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:24:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200506292324.j5TNOX2o029636@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:24:32 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: That time of year again To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:03:55 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Happy FF everybody! Hope FingerFest is a grand success and all festers have >a great time. > >I'm sorry I won't be able to make it. I'm a little travelled out. I was in >MN last week where >it was in the 90s. Great rollerblading trails though. I stayed away from the >lutefisk. People >were nice but not noticeably so. One thing I noticed was the accent. > >I want to go in February next time ... > >-rashmi I for one am very disappointed, but of course I can't compete with no lutefisk. Have a great weekend anyway. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 18:58:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5TNvvJr019420 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:57:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:58:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A2F50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:47:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4530308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:47:57 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5TNluNS000350 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:47:56 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-9.gwi.net [216.195.163.9]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5TNlqM4058866; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:47:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629194701.01c11438@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:47:50 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: That time of year again In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:03 PM 6/29/2005, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >I want to go in February next time ... It will be different. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jun 29 20:57:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5U1vLJr000503 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:57:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:57:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A3287@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:57:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4534118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:57:20 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5U1vJW5014858 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:57:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 17107 invoked by uid 89); 30 Jun 2005 01:57:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20050630015719.17106.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Nice E-Mail! Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:57:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm in a Microtel in Staunton, VA, where the wireless wouldn't work in my room so I'm downstairs with no mouse and under . Wish I were in the LaQuinta in Chattanooga, where the connection was great. Anyway, I just wanted to report that I got e-mail from the director of the Tupelo Library expressing great appreciation for our gift and saying that he had an idea for how to earmark the money for something they needed and that he felt would be appropriate for Brad. He asked for my phone number in Jackson to call and talk about it. I just replied to him, telling him about my whereabouts. How he got my e-mail address I don't know. Maybe he called Kay, and she gave it to him. Would write more if I were under better circumstances. Hope the Microtel in Syracuse has more thorough wirelessness. Don't know where I'll be tomorrow night. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 04:22:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5U9MGJr029076 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 04:22:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 04:22:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A3A59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 5:22:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4554137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 05:22:16 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5U9MEth025804 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 05:22:15 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005063011202928994 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:20:29 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:22:13 +0200 Message-ID: <42C3B9C9.1090409@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:22:17 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Working as a spouse References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2005 09:22:13.0730 (UTC) FILETIME=[335C3420:01C57D55] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yesterday was the day for the anual general + board meeting of The Kon Tiki Museum. This took place at a small restaurant on a small island: http://www.sult.no/lilleherbern/ within walking distance frome the museum - except for the part which is within swimming distance or you can take the small ferry. Ingjerd and the other important people retired to a chambre separé (sp?) for their business meeting and I and two wives had much more fun I guess: we sat outside in the sun, watched the boats and the general ambience and shared a bottle of cold white wine. Then when the business was done with, the boeard members came down and we were allowed to joind them for a delicious dinner. I can get used to this kind of life. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 06:20:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UBKAJr009284 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 06:20:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 06:20:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FECE0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 7:20:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4556902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:20:09 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UBK9of031655 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:20:09 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so61658wra for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 04:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.53.15 with SMTP id b15mr339595wra; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 04:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 04:20:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XsN6uSeQ6mISQQZBi6uqca4wWBaaVtpEZkamkdfBku4W29njS5IMn00TW7xvqKexhrRYdK8lGt/CwB5wxrfsYNGET6wUJuvACcsbUVjpmFGRCebbU04bn7EhGHOgaN9umsaE9d0aqeu9LPes4QX0zCsveF6Sl50S9Uh98SyaVvU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:20:08 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Nice E-Mail! In-Reply-To: <20050630015719.17106.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050630015719.17106.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5UBKAJr009284 > > he felt would be appropriate for Brad. He asked for my phone number in > Jackson to call and talk about it. I just replied to him, telling him > about my whereabouts. How he got my e-mail address I don't know. Maybe he > called Kay, and she gave it to him. -- Natalie Maybe he googled words-l and looked around for you. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 07:06:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UC6IJr015973 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:06:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:06:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FECF00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 8:06:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4559495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:06:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UC64uW005487 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:06:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-212.gwi.net [216.195.165.212]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5UC60OR068171; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:06:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630080034.01bf4a10@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:05:47 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Nice E-Mail! In-Reply-To: <20050630015719.17106.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <20050630015719.17106.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:57 PM 6/29/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm in a Microtel in Staunton, VA... When I travelled regularly (i.e., a couple of times a summer) from Oak Ridge to Princeton for rowing trials, I stayed at a Hampton Inn near Staunton (probably at the same exit). Staunton was a good place to break the drive and although I can't remember names, there were a couple of decent restaurants nearby. In those days there were no Microtels nor wireless networks; Hampton Inns were one of the first chains to provide modem/phone-line hookups in all of their rooms. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 07:13:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UCDkJr017072 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:13:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:13:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A3C98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 8:13:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4559953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:13:46 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UCDkU3006987 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:13:46 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FECF2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 8:13:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200506301213.j5UCDkU3006987@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:13:46 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Nice E-Mail! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >At 09:57 PM 6/29/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>I'm in a Microtel in Staunton, VA... Natalie - you can always get on our computer via webmail at a worst- case. I'm excited you're so close! Do you have any stop-off points planned, or are you driving straight through? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 07:58:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UCviJr023076 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:57:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:58:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A3CA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 8:57:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4562839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:57:44 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UCvhbk013939 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:57:44 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:57:43 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:57:27 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: facts for the Fourth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU from the Census Bureau http://tinyurl.com/d7pu for example: Flags $5.2 million The dollar value of U.S. imports of American flags in 2004; the vast majority of this amount ($4.8 million) was for U.S. flags made in China. $851,000 BrP Under the proposed amendment will it be considered "desecration" to remove the "made in china" label from you US flag? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 08:26:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UDQlJr026872 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:26:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:26:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FED936@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 9:26:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4575635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:15:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UDFXWc016894 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:15:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:15:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:15:13 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU oops the $851,000 that appears at the end is my sloppy cut and paste. it is the value of flag exports in the next section BrP >>> Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU 06/30/05 8:57 AM >>> from the Census Bureau http://tinyurl.com/d7pu for example: Flags $5.2 million The dollar value of U.S. imports of American flags in 2004; the vast majority of this amount ($4.8 million) was for U.S. flags made in China. $851,000 BrP Under the proposed amendment will it be considered "desecration" to remove the "made in china" label from you US flag? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 08:35:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UDZGJr027924 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:35:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:35:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A45C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 9:35:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4578584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:35:15 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UDZEbn022639 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:35:14 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-165-212.gwi.net [216.195.165.212]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5UDZ6V7078906; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:35:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:25:44 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:57 AM 6/30/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Under the proposed amendment will it be considered "desecration" to >remove the "made in china" label from you US flag? Or, will the addition of a "made in china" label constitute desecration? On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries allowing gay marriages. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 08:38:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UDclJr028357 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:38:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:38:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A452F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 9:38:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4578921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:38:46 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UDckOi023332 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:38:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:38:46 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:38:32 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bleaccch having a bad typing morning it should be http://tinyurl.com/d7pu9 >>> Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU 06/30/05 8:57 AM >>> from the Census Bureau http://tinyurl.com/d7pu for example: Flags $5.2 million The dollar value of U.S. imports of American flags in 2004; the vast majority of this amount ($4.8 million) was for U.S. flags made in China. $851,000 BrP Under the proposed amendment will it be considered "desecration" to remove the "made in china" label from you US flag? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 08:40:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UDeXJr028587 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:40:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:40:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A4535@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 9:40:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4579088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:40:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UDeXXp023779 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:40:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:40:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:40:02 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU yes! my first thought on hearing the news was "in your FACE Benedict" BrP >>> cwv@GWI.NET 06/30/05 9:25 AM >>> On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries allowing gay marriages. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 09:41:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UEfTJr002954 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:41:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:41:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A464A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:01:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4581128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:01:28 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UE1S6t028704 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:01:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so60727nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.38.18 with SMTP id l18mr216965nzl; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:01:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P4lk93PQ5dW9/x8iZOwac++2qHaqq2hfoJYq1YxR8PBJ30OXKRCUBVA3yGJmNvu/HXZWmp7mNa5wN2dHMo0rV1fAPpxAalJS0DrzHE7IAJeuudmlEWSZpSF6jXS6QBSoK3LQKSGlRj+zOrHjnzwc5dSa4s9zUNut+1bLwR5mxZQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:01:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UE1S6t028706 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/30/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries > allowing gay marriages. Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 09:41:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UEfUJr002958 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:41:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:41:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A4514@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:07:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4582094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:07:24 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UE7Nsb029837 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:07:24 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5UE7MuS011812 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:07:22 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200506301407.j5UE7MuS011812@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:01:27 CDT." <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:07:22 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen says: >Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. Are you suggesting that homosexuality is particularly prevalent in certain parts of Spain? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 09:41:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UEfUJr002957 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:41:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:41:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A47C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:38:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4585714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:38:49 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UEcmfV004420 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:38:48 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5UEcluS017162 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:38:47 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200506301438.j5UEcluS017162@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:33:34 CDT." <8ddfc8a7050630073316d4ed42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:38:47 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen says: >It's a joke, Torkel. Go with the flow! A joke particularly directed at certain parts of Spain? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 09:43:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UEhaJr003135 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:43:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:43:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEDD54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:33:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:33:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UEXYmk002932 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:33:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so64042nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr207022nzc; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:33:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WhPSL6hRVBgqq+uEzAW7+bVGFl3Uc8Mj8TUUxcbfcvCqG2LopUheYa3skweSQ/X+gXf/KNeJMp3zDEVYRH3kwQdaYYaRhmZ1lUgRpQC2TZF+7ws8cxWu1I0uJSj9bBhQWMzyaLZXy8PbhnMsj0xgVUTElOfEflhJ8ZCf8TYAApY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050630073316d4ed42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:33:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: <200506301407.j5UE7MuS011812@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <200506301407.j5UE7MuS011812@sm.luth.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UEXYmk002934 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/30/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > Karen says: > > >Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. > > Are you suggesting that homosexuality is particularly prevalent in > certain parts of Spain? It's a joke, Torkel. Go with the flow! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 11:10:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UGA1Jr013824 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:10:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:10:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A4A2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:03:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4593871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:03:36 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UG3ZBi024772 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:03:36 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5UG3YuS019910 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:03:34 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200506301603.j5UG3YuS019910@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:02:13 CDT." <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:03:34 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen says: >> I think this is out of line. >I meant it to be. But which line? At which parts of Spain does your comment point, and why? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 11:10:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UGA1Jr013825 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:10:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:10:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A494C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:55:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4593302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:55:34 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UFtYsX023174 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:55:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24340720 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:07:57 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:56:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:55:31 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <339612779.20050630095531@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 244, in=102221, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/30/2005, 9:49 AM, steph wrote: = >> On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries = >> allowing gay marriages. s> = s> = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. s> = s> I think this is out of line. I think it was meant as a joke....though a tacky one. But not having written it, I can't say for sure. Of course there have been much tackier things on this list over the years. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 11:10:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UGA1Jr013823 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:10:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:10:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A49CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:50:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4592709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:50:00 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UFnxKa021677 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:50:00 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5UFnwro008656 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:49:58 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5UFnwE7008654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:49:58 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:49:58 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Message-ID: <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:01:27AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = On 6/30/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: = > On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries = > allowing gay marriages. = = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. = I think this is out of line. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 11:10:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UGA1Jr013826 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:10:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:10:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A4976@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:02:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4593829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:02:14 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UG2EZf024546 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:02:14 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so73087nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.100.19 with SMTP id x19mr167280nzb; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:02:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=l43TWVMLmfA1H/1DCPvLO1E8KDqsA77LJiTFhDTOCSAJ1OEhFYDiIHXXAUJFUaTae0JvhlKF3sxNbzXz81etxMKLTCDdlX3oiYmeSEOqdOUTBPaJVc5U2q849Tz8BghOmJQtOOeuY1D9MSktnX60x32fpfaIARxEdwP+sD4Cbc0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:02:13 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UG2EZf024547 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/30/05, steph wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:01:27AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = On 6/30/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > = > On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries > = > allowing gay marriages. > = > = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. > = > > I think this is out of line. I meant it to be. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 11:21:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UGKnJr015035 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:20:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:21:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A49B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:19:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4594719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:19:01 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UGJ0pW027167 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:19:00 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5UGIxuS002993 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:19:00 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200506301619.j5UGIxuS002993@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: My 998th spam Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:18:59 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It begins: >I am Mr. Elvis Guru, I like to think that Brad would have smiled at this. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 11:21:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UGKnJr015037 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:20:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:21:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A4A58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4594559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:51 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UGFodJ026747 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:51 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5UGFnuS000031 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:15:50 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200506301615.j5UGFnuS000031@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:10:48 CDT." <8ddfc8a70506300910364828fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:15:49 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen says: >LOL Aha, lolling! This is indeed a favorite on the net, lolling and wobbling. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 11:21:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UGKnJr015033 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:20:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:21:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A4884@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:10:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4594156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:10:49 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UGAnSi025821 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:10:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so73904nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.100.19 with SMTP id x19mr168871nzb; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ney7r4uBmpF3AyVhMvSdAqov/8MLyrFyf+j4f5lqWhWpluy6ZdyXptsf+oN9AZZsM3UyK4xpTC1YtKi3MnHIoPYZaLqmx6+sR+DbkRlaxhnS31eOroEphZS+9K+cCHMWeUmULGTV5hPNnm67SX2o0cxGa1TOSEWO0kYBsOmhcLQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506300910364828fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:10:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: <200506301603.j5UG3YuS019910@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> <200506301603.j5UG3YuS019910@sm.luth.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UGAnSi025822 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/30/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > Karen says: > > >> I think this is out of line. > >I meant it to be. > > But which line? At which parts of Spain does your comment point, and > why? LOL From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:15:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHF4Jr021760 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A4B62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:50:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4598049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:50:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UGohgT001572 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:50:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so75886nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.25.19 with SMTP id 19mr255981nzy; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pcm8d5OH68BN2Hn1HDAIWSHMCu+aShzQVFFQx0SW/ixMZo62HFgJpYHWzFGnFCSWmxXPUhEFZAKUu72IN4UBJOsd4+ClAga+zHXSTZeYv3tzryoCRL772rxrXydR5UZErpgev3qaDgy6IQE5ORSaQfpKq6lfMoI22eyNCq4slEU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:50:43 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My 998th spam In-Reply-To: <20050630163459.GA11575@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506301619.j5UGIxuS002993@sm.luth.se> <20050630163459.GA11575@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UGohgT001573 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >I am Mr. Elvis Guru, > Hah! I have gotten mail from "Mohammed Flanagan" ... how > many of you can say that? Truthfully? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:15:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHF4Jr021763 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A4B73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:54:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4597695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:54:17 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5UGiGiK000411 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:44:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 17865 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Jun 2005 16:44:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:44:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Message-ID: <20050630164415.GB11575@words-l.org> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 11:02:13AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/30/05, steph wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:01:27AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > = On 6/30/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > = > On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries > > = > allowing gay marriages. > > = > > = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. > > > > I think this is out of line. > > I meant it to be. Well this is not a "diverse" list ... if you know what "diverse" means ... if it had a larger number of honest, upright, normal talk-show listeners, your joke would have been a resounding success ... but this list is full of academics ... liberals ... crypto-quasi-marxists ... PRESS people full of TREACHERY ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:15:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHF4Js021765 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A4AC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:56:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4598456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:56:45 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UGuiMD002861 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:56:44 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23420910 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:41:15 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:57:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:56:43 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <395489187.20050630105643@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: My 998th spam In-Reply-To: References: <200506301619.j5UGIxuS002993@sm.luth.se> <20050630163459.GA11575@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 240, in=85925, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/30/2005, 10:50 AM, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> > >I am Mr. Elvis Guru, >> Hah! I have gotten mail from "Mohammed Flanagan" ... how >> many of you can say that? BO> Truthfully? Considering the ones I just posted from a quick scan of my trash of the last hour, it wouldn't surprise me at all. Hell, I may have gotten one from "him" but don't usually make much note of the weird names.....since there are over a thousand a day. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:15:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHF4Jr021766 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A4B75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:55:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4598400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:55:21 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UGtLQN002664 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:55:21 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24347212 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:07:46 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:55:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:55:20 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <527776566.20050630105520@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: My 998th spam In-Reply-To: <20050630163459.GA11575@words-l.org> References: <200506301619.j5UGIxuS002993@sm.luth.se> <20050630163459.GA11575@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 244, in=102261, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/30/2005, 10:34 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: DMH> On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 06:18:59PM +0200, Torkel Franzen wrote: >> It begins: >> >> >I am Mr. Elvis Guru, >> >> I like to think that Brad would have smiled at this. DMH> Hah! I have gotten mail from "Mohammed Flanagan" ... how DMH> many of you can say that? Not from him that I recall, but these are a couple of the ones today...maybe from a random generator from name lists? Homer C. Thacker Heriberto Gordon Morganica Ramaswamy Pearlie W. Guerra Socorro Cullen And of course standard correspondents like: ¥xÆW¥ø¹º¹Ñ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:15:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHF4Jr021765 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:15:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A4B48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:45:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4596807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:45:02 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5UGZ1S4031024 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:35:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 12469 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Jun 2005 16:35:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:34:59 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My 998th spam Message-ID: <20050630163459.GA11575@words-l.org> References: <200506301619.j5UGIxuS002993@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506301619.j5UGIxuS002993@sm.luth.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 06:18:59PM +0200, Torkel Franzen wrote: > It begins: > > >I am Mr. Elvis Guru, > > I like to think that Brad would have smiled at this. Hah! I have gotten mail from "Mohammed Flanagan" ... how many of you can say that? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:17:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHH6Jr021953 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:17:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:17:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A4BE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:17:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4600203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:17:05 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UHH4fh007306 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:17:05 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:17:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:16:43 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: lost and found and lost and found Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Someone left a file cabinet on one of the elevators. It has been riding from floor to floor for about the last hour and nobody seems to know why it is there. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:28:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHS6Jr023301 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:28:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:28:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEE508@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:28:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4601190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:28:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UHS5Ux009933 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:28:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so136556wra for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.39.67 with SMTP id m67mr528633wrm; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:27:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oq3VDD1dC3hm7JIXRxNqjrc2OWuDS8+wLo2o4OlAx8pszTkCDhFJgj5EweqKWkQJpjoSLGkcRIhe0JHUOqP/c5Rk0UjV1QmID0FYX1YdCxp5LpoOTPWlBtfB8+hWXeg3/cjZ620rDzBYUc918NCWMj5eTgCk9LzY/J6cXqNcD4o= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:27:23 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lost and found and lost and found In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j5UHS6Jr023301 Is it ticking? Call Homeland Security! Someone left a file cabinet on one of the elevators. It has been riding > from floor to floor for about the last hour and nobody seems to know why > it is there. > -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:51:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHoxJr026611 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:51:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:51:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A4A49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:20:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4600628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:20:55 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UHKsSf008416 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:20:55 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEE4C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:20:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:20:54 -0400 From: Kristin Sarv Subject: WHTMTD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Kristin Sarv MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UHKtSf008421 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What happens/-ed/is happening/has happened to me these days: Cannot but share the atmosphere I'm in just now: http://www.tartu.ee/hansa/ -- Hanseatic days in Tartu. You can choose the English version there and look at the pictures. A webcam is also there. Many people in medieval clothes, much music on the streets, both instrumental and vocal. Just now a group singing is heard through the window of our office and I'm about to go out soon and find out what is going on there somewhere. Handicraft items sold everywhere, handicrafters themselves working on streets and in yards, many events planned and taking place. I love it. And I have a vacation, so why shouldn't I spend the long weekend just hanging about in the town. Still, some preparations are to be made for the trip to Åland that will start on Monday -- Happy July 4th for everybody in the USA! Some films to be bought for the camera, and some laundry to be done, and... Well, once again I found out, and convinced myself that it is too early for me to buy a digital camera: the prices of good ones, and of the average ones, just for laymen who do not want to have a bare "soap-box", are still too high. Met two photographers with professional skills on Midsummer Night/St. John's Eve, and asked them many questions about their cameras. The St. John's Eve was nice. I spent it at my daughter Imbi's and her would-be husband's new home at a countryside. When I say, 'new home', it only means they just bought it. There's much to be done in that old house before they can actually live in it, yet one may stay overnight there in summer. Several young and not so young people were there in Midsummer, we had fire in the yard, young men built a 'tipi' -- an American Indian sauna: hot, very hot, stones are put into a hole in the ground in the middle of a tent, and then who wish will sit there in the carefully shut tent and sweat and make "prehistoric noise", either singing or humming or what seems right to them. And then they rush out of the tent and pour cold water all over them, so that one may believe s/he can hear the sound of fizz. And everybody is so content how they feel later on so that I must regret again that I'm not much of a sauna person. Well, I just checked 'tipi' in Merriam-Webster which says, it is a variant of 'tepee', a conical tent usually consisting of skins and used especially by American Indians of the Plains -- so, whether there is a special name for the kind of sauna, I do not know actually. Ours wasn't covered with skins, either. The house was bought so recently that they even didn't have a flag pole in the yard (why didn't the previous owners have it?, I wonder). Yet I thought it would be a nice present, a house-warming present, so to say, to give them a flag. Well, I didn't take a flag with me, actually, but the equivalent of it for more ordinary days: a long (3 metres) triangular cloth in flag colours. Imbi's spouse put up a pole right away! It didn't look tacky or anything, just not as fully finished or elaborated as he'll surely will put up later on. And the triangular tricolor hung at the top of it, moving slightly in the wind, and everything was as it should be on Midsummer (and also on a Victory Day -- named after an important victory over Landeswehr in 1919 in our Independence War). The next day ten of us went rowing on a lake Pühajärv (Holy Lake). I was rowing the boat with four people in it for some time, too, but had so much trouble coordinating the work of my both hands that I soon gave up, partly out of mercy for the others. Well, as it was a long and nice day and nobody was in a hurry they tolerated my messing with the rows without showing any sign of nervousness. And three lake shells lie in front of my computer monitor now, in addition to some shells I've picked up from other waters in previous summers. I wrote this message in the window of the site for the archives -- hmm, why not come back from nomail for a couple of days! Yes, I'll send this msg away and change my settings, and will read some more of the recent post in the archives and then some of the coming post in my mailbox. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:58:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHwlJr027632 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:58:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:58:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEE605@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:52:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4603268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:52:13 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UHqCnB015436 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:52:13 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:52:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:51:52 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: lost and found and lost and found Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU more likely the Earl Browder Collection >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/30/05 1:43 PM >>> Yup, abandoned items get these days. I think someone is out to destroy Joyce Carol Oates' archive! On 6/30/05, bonniemaev wrote: > Is it ticking? Call Homeland Security! > > Someone left a file cabinet on one of the elevators. It has been riding > > from floor to floor for about the last hour and nobody seems to know why > > it is there. > > > > > > -- > --bonniev > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:59:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHwlJr027631 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:58:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:59:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEE61C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:56:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4603656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:56:41 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UHufwI016291 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:56:41 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so85801nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.20 with SMTP id a20mr318388nzc; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:56:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uNsucMfWzXX6AIfwvKSHzduC3nS3AD7f0/tlEL1UKKtUZzOitsyJfmdmKR+a9BL5UbbaIblZv6iu9Z5xwZo42kEcHsmKdqG12qGvSjgFVlIYuefPiAN2xrY2T0f24z/wHJg5lOyI3tddBqF3GwOCt9QnBJ6e/O4Vom1xvMDPIPc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050630105613ed7cac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:56:37 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lost and found and lost and found In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UHufwI016292 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, yes, you're right, of course. The Kansas State Historical Society is next! Karen On 6/30/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > more likely the Earl Browder Collection > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/30/05 1:43 PM >>> > Yup, abandoned items get these days. I think > someone is out to destroy Joyce Carol Oates' archive! > > On 6/30/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Is it ticking? Call Homeland Security! > > > > Someone left a file cabinet on one of the elevators. It has been > riding > > > from floor to floor for about the last hour and nobody seems to > know why > > > it is there. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --bonniev > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:59:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHwlJr027627 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:58:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:59:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEE569@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:43:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4602665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:43:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UHhGJU013611 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:43:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so84148nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.138.7 with SMTP id l7mr303909nzd; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:43:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SB58oU4Rfuxv58PlMg46JJdUnECtaSLnAoacyBfu+qo27n2FtihQ93GVea2pb/dqZQk0cM81Z56aE1cFuAxCS8epC5fef8jusmcVy3A5alNYsoNkof3BFTrjl+4moe3IVnPON/4tWJCb+HIPVoKtpWT/itdzzOxLF/8pXDv64cc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506301043248fb38a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:43:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lost and found and lost and found In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UHhGJU013612 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yup, abandoned items get these days. I think someone is out to destroy Joyce Carol Oates' archive! On 6/30/05, bonniemaev wrote: > Is it ticking? Call Homeland Security! > > Someone left a file cabinet on one of the elevators. It has been riding > > from floor to floor for about the last hour and nobody seems to know why > > it is there. > > > > > > -- > --bonniev > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 12:59:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHwlJr027629 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:58:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:59:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEE58C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:38:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4602305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:38:46 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UHckYw012792 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:38:46 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050630173845014004gmuqe>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:38:45 +0000 Message-ID: <42C42E24.7060106@istori.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:38:44 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMTD References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin writes, > young men built a 'tipi' -- an American Indian sauna: > hot, very hot, stones are put into a hole in the ground in the middle of a > tent, and then who wish will sit there in the carefully shut tent and sweat A "sweat lodge" . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 13:00:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UHxpJr027758 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:59:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:00:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A4CEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:59:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4603831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:59:50 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UHxoYJ016684 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:59:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4A298541 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:59:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31359-08 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:59:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E6998557 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:59:47 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42C43356.7010703@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:00:54 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMTD References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42C42E24.7060106@istori.com> In-Reply-To: <42C42E24.7060106@istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.534 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Kristin writes, > >> young men built a 'tipi' > > > A "sweat lodge" . I would have searched Wikipedia if MW hadn't given the meaning of tipi so easily. Still, what might it be called in the correspondent Indian language? I clicked on the link of 'wickiup' on the page you sent. LOL. Ours looked exactly like the one on the picture up and right on the newly opened page. Only it was smaller. We thought the next day what the village people might think of our party there when they passed the yard: that we had had guests from Mongolia, perhaps. Kristin > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 13:21:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UILfJr031290 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:21:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:21:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEE656@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:01:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4603955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:01:38 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UI1cCW017044 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:01:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so86413nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr327256nzc; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:01:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=c9Osmn+6rbUr3YuYAEJaMiZnOqUet+R/l0GASCBLp6CvTw26CMxcoYjnYodDUCvyhsqgLF1i6K4MfSi+lLHZnrRGiY7uBM3e1pX2c/wEXH+UsM5hgo4/JKZQQRYUN5wVh9a86P5egm1pRFKpec3jdzrsfa5YtfVOzAQNK0UqirA= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050630110120451db2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:01:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMTD In-Reply-To: <42C43356.7010703@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42C42E24.7060106@istori.com> <42C43356.7010703@akad.ee> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UI1cCW017045 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/30/05, Kristin Sarv wrote: > I clicked on the link of 'wickiup' on the page you sent. LOL. Ours > looked exactly like the one on the picture up and right on the newly > opened page. Only it was smaller. We thought the next day what the > village people might think of our party there when they passed the yard: > that we had had guests from Mongolia, perhaps. YURT! I love that word. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 13:21:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UILrJr031308 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:21:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:21:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEE6D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:21:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4604738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:21:52 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5UIBpeT018870 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:11:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 62508 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Jun 2005 18:11:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:11:50 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My 998th spam Message-ID: <20050630181150.GA61326@words-l.org> References: <200506301619.j5UGIxuS002993@sm.luth.se> <20050630163459.GA11575@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 12:50:43PM -0400, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > >I am Mr. Elvis Guru, > > Hah! I have gotten mail from "Mohammed Flanagan" ... how > > many of you can say that? > > Truthfully? No, within 1.25 seconds in a falsetto. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 13:26:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UIQWJr031956 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:26:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:26:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEE73E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:26:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4605351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:26:31 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5UIGUbG020226 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:16:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 64623 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Jun 2005 18:16:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:16:29 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My 998th spam Message-ID: <20050630181629.GB61326@words-l.org> References: <200506301619.j5UGIxuS002993@sm.luth.se> <20050630163459.GA11575@words-l.org> <527776566.20050630105520@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <527776566.20050630105520@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 10:55:20AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 6/30/2005, 10:34 AM, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > DMH> On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 06:18:59PM +0200, Torkel Franzen wrote: > >> It begins: > >> > >> >I am Mr. Elvis Guru, > >> > >> I like to think that Brad would have smiled at this. > > DMH> Hah! I have gotten mail from "Mohammed Flanagan" ... how > DMH> many of you can say that? > > Not from him that I recall, but these are a couple of the ones > today...maybe from a random generator from name lists? Random generator! How this realization makes me slap my head. And now for some vintage 2003-style spam ... From: "Mohammed Flanagan" Subject: Proven Techniques Help You Pay Only 4.9% On Your House sith ehchd wvqkhw Date: Wed, 23 Jul 03 08:17:16 GMT REFINANCE NOW AND SAVE BIG! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you are paying more than 4.6% on your mortgage, we can save you money! NO COST OR OBLIGATION QUICK AND EASY FORM! GUARANTEED LOWEST RATES ON THE PLANET! APPROVAL REGARDLESS OF CREDIT HISTORY! Start saving today! We are anxious to go to work for you! Show Me The Lowest Rates --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you would no longer like us to contact you, you may click here hootlx ntetcfhf mhchpsryo sqd edzjl From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 13:42:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UIgdJr001375 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:42:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:42:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A4E03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:42:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4606543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:42:39 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5UIWbcp023554 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:32:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 72868 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Jun 2005 18:32:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:32:36 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lost and found and lost and found Message-ID: <20050630183236.GC61326@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But please, PLEASE, do not tell the PRESS. On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 01:27:23PM -0400, bonniemaev wrote: > Is it ticking? Call Homeland Security! > > > Someone left a file cabinet on one of the elevators. It has been riding > > from floor to floor for about the last hour and nobody seems to know why > > it is there. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 13:44:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UIiQJr001633 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:44:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:44:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEE7D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:44:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4606668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:44:26 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5UIYQ6E023838 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:34:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 74048 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Jun 2005 18:34:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:34:25 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lost and found and lost and found Message-ID: <20050630183423.GD61326@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That's what she meant. Stop being such a hardass, she is just having a bad typing day. On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 01:51:52PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > more likely the Earl Browder Collection > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/30/05 1:43 PM >>> > Yup, abandoned items get these days. I think > someone is out to destroy Joyce Carol Oates' archive! > > On 6/30/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > Is it ticking? Call Homeland Security! > > > > Someone left a file cabinet on one of the elevators. It has been > > > riding from floor to floor for about the last hour and nobody > > > seems to know why it is there. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 14:16:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UJGMJr005841 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:16:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:16:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEE8F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:16:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4609938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:16:22 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UJGLfA032695 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:16:21 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5UJGKTx009693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:16:20 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5UJGKZc009691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:16:20 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:16:20 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Message-ID: <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 11:02:13AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = On 6/30/05, steph wrote: = > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:01:27AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = > = On 6/30/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: = > = > On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries = > = > allowing gay marriages. = > = = > = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. = > = = > = > I think this is out of line. = = I meant it to be. And when is that appropriate? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 14:34:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UJXqJr008203 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:33:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:34:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEE961@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:33:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4611619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:33:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UJXpOl003692 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:33:52 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so96861nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.11 with SMTP id o11mr396366nzo; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:33:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nlK7nhD0PV2iW5BMfl2xe8Mkv/D0sBvT+t//ljqq7vY5rL4JUeXu2OLpUG2JbWTr1dtGlM9+bEJ/ZkeecvRTPkHSvnlHb/y7IDgzWAxF4d20aQK00x2lFhm26L2JX3bkQ9vc2F/2IORHkdCd1A/t4EYwajmqb/w7v+0sxg/gJ/w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705063012336dfb9a67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:33:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth In-Reply-To: <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UJXqOl003696 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/30/05, steph wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 11:02:13AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = On 6/30/05, steph wrote: > = > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:01:27AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = > = On 6/30/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > = > = > On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries > = > = > allowing gay marriages. > = > = > = > = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. > = > = > = > > = > I think this is out of line. > = > = I meant it to be. > > And when is that appropriate? When one is in a group of like-minded friends--oops! I forgot. This is Words-L! So sorry! Karen who meant it to be dry, not tacky.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 14:34:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UJYrJr008309 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:34:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:34:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEE9B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:34:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4611686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:34:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UJYqCp003850 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:34:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so96970nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr421945nzd; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:34:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dKm+PjyBqedOcndiZy65BfPzwVYr27Z194L0rpAnyeZw5Lf8LoUGPZNhlGR18zAEUjB87ys1/O9s8npXnpMLK2hKTCV/JXdtRbrC5rG8qMbt+lUNGWL0fiKkUS6iUmuPSwA72WRZoZoH7LykOOKfHQ0BF6Af/63cJZzs2AYIIqY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705063012341d3d8dfc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:34:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lost and found and lost and found In-Reply-To: <20050630183423.GD61326@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050630183423.GD61326@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UJYrCp003851 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/30/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > That's what she meant. Stop being such a hardass, she > is just having a bad typing day. Thank you, my man. Karen who really just wants to throw up from the stress > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 01:51:52PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > more likely the Earl Browder Collection > > > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/30/05 1:43 PM >>> > > Yup, abandoned items get these days. I think > > someone is out to destroy Joyce Carol Oates' archive! > > > > On 6/30/05, bonniemaev wrote: > > > Is it ticking? Call Homeland Security! > > > > > > Someone left a file cabinet on one of the elevators. It has been > > > > riding from floor to floor for about the last hour and nobody > > > > seems to know why it is there. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 15:52:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UKqFJr018104 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:52:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:52:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEEC86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:52:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4618250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:52:14 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UKqEHI020184 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:52:14 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 848662D182A74 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:52:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002d01c57db5$91faea20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: WHTMTD Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:52:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristin Sarv" To: Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: WHTMTD > What happens/-ed/is happening/has happened to me these days: > > Cannot but share the atmosphere I'm in just now: > > http://www.tartu.ee/hansa/ Kristin . . enjoyed your sharing . . sounds like fun and very relaxing/ - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 16:33:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ULWjJr023196 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:32:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:33:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEEDA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:26:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4620685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:26:59 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5ULGvmm027236 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:16:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 79672 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Jun 2005 21:16:56 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:16:56 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Message-ID: <20050630211656.GB73044@words-l.org> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063012336dfb9a67@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705063012336dfb9a67@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 02:33:50PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 6/30/05, steph wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 11:02:13AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > = On 6/30/05, steph wrote: > > = > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:01:27AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > = > = On 6/30/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > = > = > On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries > > = > = > allowing gay marriages. > > = > = > > = > = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. > > = > = > > = > > > = > I think this is out of line. > > = > > = I meant it to be. > > > > And when is that appropriate? > > When one is in a group of like-minded friends--oops! I forgot. This is > Words-L! So sorry! > > Karen > who meant it to be dry, not tacky.... I know! Steph is like the American media! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 16:33:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ULWjJr023195 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:32:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:33:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEED8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:22:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4619164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:22:44 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5ULCh8E026063 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:12:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 75664 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Jun 2005 21:12:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:12:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Message-ID: <20050630211242.GA73044@words-l.org> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:16:20PM +0200, steph wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 11:02:13AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = On 6/30/05, steph wrote: > = > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:01:27AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = > = On 6/30/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > = > = > On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries > = > = > allowing gay marriages. > = > = > = > = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. > = > = > = > > = > I think this is out of line. > = > = I meant it to be. > > And when is that appropriate? When you are the TWIN of a GAY MAN! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 16:33:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ULWjJr023197 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:32:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:33:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEEE05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:30:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4621435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:30:21 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ULULMv029368 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:30:21 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24455317 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:30:37 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:30:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:30:19 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMTD In-Reply-To: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 242, in=88203, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/30/2005, 11:20 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> And the triangular tricolor ooohhh...this reminded me of a word pronunciation question... To me it is pronounced TRY-color, as in TRY-angle, etc. However when watching the LeMans Race several times the (British, I believe) announcer kept referring to the flag at the Start/Finish line as the French "trickler" or perhaps closer to "tri-kuh-ler", no real emphasis on any syllable. What's right? Is this a variation like color/colour, or have I been wrong forever, or.... dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 16:33:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5ULWjJr023194 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:32:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:33:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEEDD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:25:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4621196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:25:15 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5ULPE5Q028544 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:25:14 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24373920 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:37:42 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:25:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:25:13 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <47669932.20050630152513@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lost and found and lost and found In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 245, in=102460, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If it is like it is here, some Phys Plant guys who were supposed to be moving a shitload of them forgot one and then went on to lunch or another job. If each guy assumed the other did it.... (We're supposed to have about 15 moved on Tues, as we eliminated our print Annual Reports files. About five to various offices, the others to Surplus) dan 6/30/2005, 11:16 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> Someone left a file cabinet on one of the elevators. It has been riding PB> from floor to floor for about the last hour and nobody seems to know why PB> it is there. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 17:11:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UMAwJr027596 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:10:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:11:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A52E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:10:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4623455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:10:58 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UMAv1R003290 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:10:57 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 117487234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:10:56 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050630145022.01ad3cf0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:10:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Fun along the way to The Fest In-Reply-To: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> References: <200506280425.j5S4Pj6X029168@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In Seneca Falls we got to witness a boat going through locks 2 and 3 at the the Cayuga-Seneca Canal. They are only raised and lowered about 50 feet but I'm ready for the Panama Canal now. We visited the Women's Rights National Historical Park and had a great lunch at a recommended deli. I couldn't find anything that I had to buy at the WomanMade Products store but the woman working there sent us to see the water wall which we missed at the museum. After a quick stop at Skaneateles we worked our way to Syracuse along the scenic route. I want to go back and take the one hour scenic cruise. You get a better view of things from the boat. Beautiful lake and the area looked charming. We were too hot and tired to do any more exploring. As we drove in the parking lot of the hotel we saw Natalie entering the hotel! She was embarrassed that we caught her in her funky clothes. I was just happy to see her and be here. This is a very nice two star hotel and I'd stay here again. Wireless works perfect and there is a coffee/tea room open 24 hours. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 17:12:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UMBtJr027696 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:11:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:12:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEEF0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:11:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4623591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:11:55 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UMBscj003586 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:11:54 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5UMBrQZ010609 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:11:53 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5UMBrG2010607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:11:53 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:11:53 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Message-ID: <20050630221153.GA10044@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050630211242.GA73044@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050630211242.GA73044@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = > = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. = > = > = = > = > = > = > I think this is out of line. = > = = > = I meant it to be. = > = > And when is that appropriate? = = When you are the TWIN of a GAY MAN! That is so LAME. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 17:16:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UMG5Jr028530 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:16:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:16:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEEF24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:16:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4623988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:16:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UMG3Jk004644 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:16:04 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5UMG3gR010649 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:16:03 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5UMG3gL010647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:16:03 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:16:02 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Message-ID: <20050630221602.GB10044@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063012336dfb9a67@mail.gmail.com> <20050630211656.GB73044@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050630211656.GB73044@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = > When one is in a group of like-minded friends--oops! I forgot. This is = > Words-L! So sorry! = > = > Karen = > who meant it to be dry, not tacky.... = = I know! Steph is like the American media! Eh? How is that even possible? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 17:24:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UMOgJr029624 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:24:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:24:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEEF18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:24:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4624416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:24:41 -0400 Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UMOfnF005659 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:24:41 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.14 (built Oct 8 2003)) id <0IIX005014ORGJ@mail.hawaii.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:23:41 -1000 (HST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.14 (built Oct 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IIX0065Y4VFCS@mail.hawaii.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:23:41 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:23:52 -1000 From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Subject: Re: WHTMTD In-reply-to: <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-id: <42C3E458.31882.D5B45F@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Priority: normal References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 30 Jun 2005 at 15:30, Dan Lester wrote: > What's right? Is this a variation like color/colour, or have I been > wrong forever, or.... Maybe he was just confusing it with a French tickler. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 17:29:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UMT2Jr030165 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:29:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:29:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A5335@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:29:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4624588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:28:55 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UMSt5c006527 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:28:55 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:28:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:28:45 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU YaY Welcome to Syracuse!!! >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 6:10 PM >>> In Seneca Falls we got to witness a boat going through locks 2 and 3 at the the Cayuga-Seneca Canal. They are only raised and lowered about 50 feet but I'm ready for the Panama Canal now. We visited the Women's Rights National Historical Park and had a great lunch at a recommended deli. I couldn't find anything that I had to buy at the WomanMade Products store but the woman working there sent us to see the water wall which we missed at the museum. After a quick stop at Skaneateles we worked our way to Syracuse along the scenic route. I want to go back and take the one hour scenic cruise. You get a better view of things from the boat. Beautiful lake and the area looked charming. We were too hot and tired to do any more exploring. As we drove in the parking lot of the hotel we saw Natalie entering the hotel! She was embarrassed that we caught her in her funky clothes. I was just happy to see her and be here. This is a very nice two star hotel and I'd stay here again. Wireless works perfect and there is a coffee/tea room open 24 hours. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 17:30:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UMUVJr030370 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:30:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:30:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A5339@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:30:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4624652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:30:31 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UMUVgl006764 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:30:31 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:30:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:30:02 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: WHTMTD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Please! That's Freedom tickler! >>> mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET 06/30/05 6:23 PM >>> Maybe he was just confusing it with a French tickler. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 18:08:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UN7UJr000955 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:07:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:08:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEEFCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:41:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4624780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:41:25 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5UMVO5X007096 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:31:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 34298 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Jun 2005 22:31:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:31:23 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Message-ID: <20050630223123.GB33679@words-l.org> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050630211242.GA73044@words-l.org> <20050630221153.GA10044@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050630221153.GA10044@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 12:11:53AM +0200, steph wrote: > = > = > = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. > = > = > = > = > = > > = > = > I think this is out of line. > = > = > = > = I meant it to be. > = > > = > And when is that appropriate? > = > = When you are the TWIN of a GAY MAN! > > That is so LAME. Truth often is, STEPH. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 18:08:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UN7UJr000953 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:07:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:08:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEEFD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:39:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4625397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:39:25 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UMdLJJ008894 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:39:22 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 117495696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:39:21 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050630153550.01a198e0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:39:19 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you. Natalie is going out in search of food and I'm heading for the shower. I think we'll do the cruise around the lake tomorrow. The Erie Canal tours don't start until after July 9. Betty At 03:28 PM 6/30/2005, you wrote: >YaY Welcome to Syracuse!!! > > > > > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 6:10 PM >>> >In Seneca Falls we got to witness a boat going through locks 2 and 3 at >the the Cayuga-Seneca Canal. They are only raised and lowered about 50 >feet but I'm ready for the Panama Canal now. > >We visited the Women's Rights National Historical Park and had a great >lunch at a recommended deli. I couldn't find anything that I had to buy >at >the WomanMade Products store but the woman working there sent us to see >the >water wall which we missed at the museum. > >After a quick stop at Skaneateles we worked our way to Syracuse along >the >scenic route. I want to go back and take the one hour scenic cruise. >You >get a better view of things from the boat. Beautiful lake and the area >looked charming. We were too hot and tired to do any more exploring. > >As we drove in the parking lot of the hotel we saw Natalie entering the >hotel! She was embarrassed that we caught her in her funky clothes. I >was >just happy to see her and be here. This is a very nice two star hotel >and >I'd stay here again. Wireless works perfect and there is a coffee/tea >room >open 24 hours. > >Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 18:08:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UN7UJr000956 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:07:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:08:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEEFE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:43:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4625543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:43:49 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UMhn2u009365 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:43:49 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:43:49 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:43:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good choice. Skaneateles is a beautiful lake. Hey. If you have some extra time come on up to the University and the 6th floor of the library and I'll show you some of our treasures. >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 6:39 PM >>> Thank you. Natalie is going out in search of food and I'm heading for the shower. I think we'll do the cruise around the lake tomorrow. The Erie Canal tours don't start until after July 9. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 18:08:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UN7UJr000949 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:07:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:08:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEEF29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:27:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4624569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:27:20 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UMRJA6006184 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:27:20 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so113250nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.11 with SMTP id x11mr487291nzx; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:27:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ry2Ljwc9Yd+114+OvJI4kk5+SBaq1A+T6ENTxa2521nXkbI27dkdNyB9zsW4L14hvcbzKoFd0gyJDUqw1EYkP7kHLQQIjRQWOlvPFbAREAUopA6gP9S0X0s3+5oXXm+HBX2jZ+2zxoaydF7JO7USapvJq8IHR9P5zmn06k/62HM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70506301527667ceb4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:27:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMTD In-Reply-To: <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j5UMRKA6006186 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6/30/05, Dan Lester wrote: > To me it is pronounced TRY-color, as in TRY-angle, etc. Me, too. > However when watching the LeMans Race several times the (British, I > believe) announcer kept referring to the flag at the Start/Finish line > as the French "trickler" or perhaps closer to "tri-kuh-ler", no real > emphasis on any syllable. > > What's right? Is this a variation like color/colour, or have I been > wrong forever, or.... Well, you have been wrong forever on many things, but I don't think this is one. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 18:08:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UN7UJs000955 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:08:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:08:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEF0CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:06:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4626942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:06:43 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5UN6gq7012747 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:06:42 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j5UN6fON010943 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 01:06:41 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5UN6fZG010941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 01:06:41 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 01:06:41 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Message-ID: <20050630230641.GA10916@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063012336dfb9a67@mail.gmail.com> <20050630211656.GB73044@words-l.org> <20050630221602.GB10044@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050630223110.GA33679@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050630223110.GA33679@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = Oh, you make good people look bad ... I am going to add that to my list of bad habits. That's not saying I'm going to do anything about it, but I figure awareness is the first part of the battle. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 18:08:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UN7UJr000954 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:07:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:08:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEEF91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:41:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4624759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:41:12 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5UMVCBt007043 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:31:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 34229 invoked by uid 1003); 30 Jun 2005 22:31:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:31:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Message-ID: <20050630223110.GA33679@words-l.org> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063009023f5d885e@mail.gmail.com> <20050630191620.GA9648@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a705063012336dfb9a67@mail.gmail.com> <20050630211656.GB73044@words-l.org> <20050630221602.GB10044@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050630221602.GB10044@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 12:16:02AM +0200, steph wrote: > = > > = > When one is in a group of like-minded friends--oops! I forgot. This is > = > Words-L! So sorry! > = > > = > Karen > = > who meant it to be dry, not tacky.... > = > = I know! Steph is like the American media! > > Eh? How is that even possible? Oh, you make good people look bad ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 18:51:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5UNpFJr006082 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:51:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:51:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A54D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:41:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4628114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:41:15 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j5UNfEPw018528 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:41:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 14319 invoked by uid 89); 30 Jun 2005 23:41:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20050630234114.14318.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Oops and Good Recs, clo! Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:41:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU First the oops: I sent this several hours ago. But it didn't go because I stupidly forgot that I'm using webmail rather than Mozilla or UnixMailx. They know who "words" is. Webmail doesn't: ********************* Hi. This is the qmail-send program at sleepy.wojomedia.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:20:22 -0500 The wireless net at the Syracuse Microtel works great. I found out when checking out of the Staunton Microtel this morning (from a desk clerk who was much friendlier and more knowledgeable than last night's clerk) that the connection in that one particular room -- my room -- had been giving people trouble for the last week or so. I looked at the discount booklets at the Pennsylvania Welcome Center this morning and found a Comfort Inn just past Scranton that looked like a good deal, but I got there much earlier than I thought I would. I did drive by and look at the area and decided to keep moving. The whole vicinity looked depressing. So here I am in Syracuse -- arrived at almost the exact moment B&L arrived. ************************** Moving to good rec, clo: I don't remember that you mentioned the Microtel in particular, but I know that you mentioned this clump of hotels. And I'm thinking maybe you mentioned The Green Onion. I know that its name was familiar to me, but I couldn't remember why. The friendly desk person at the Microtel said it was excellent, and excellent it was. And it was great to be able to walk across a patch of grass and be there. One thing I hated about the Microtel in Staunton was that it was way up on top of a cliff by itself, with no food within walking distance. I am quite happy in Syracuse. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 19:11:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j610BdJr008342 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:11:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:11:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEF1B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4628902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6109cpX025363 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:09:05 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Earl Browder Benjamin Spock Albert Schweitzer Dorothy Thompson Rudyard Kipling Miklos Roza Stephen Crane Gerrit Smith The Oneida Community etc etc >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/30/05 8:01 PM >>> Margaret Bourke White! Richard Burton! That family's newsletter... can't remember the name. Boris Drucker! On 6/30/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Good choice. Skaneateles is a beautiful lake. Hey. If you have some > extra time come on up to the University and the 6th floor of the library > and I'll show you some of our treasures. > > > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 6:39 PM >>> > Thank you. Natalie is going out in search of food and I'm heading for > the > shower. I think we'll do the cruise around the lake tomorrow. The Erie > Canal tours don't start until after July 9. > > Betty > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 19:11:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j610BdJr008341 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:11:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:11:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEF1A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:01:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4628687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:01:39 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6101cVA024551 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:01:38 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so119770nzf for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.12 with SMTP id f12mr616360nzb; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:01:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gjlFQxKfze/lwn4rKuIiFzl7WUWPJHcb+5/n4rsVUTrw5jsUXfKET1jal4nEaHSBLne7lDqDHSkLN67WHGvx/rmiUBUQdQvGQ+yduuIt+GQqGUK8QCz2MjWfM/0qZvkXgiEEKEyPGaImAOJhfonPRihwAS7lLi/Zs2gfysMyspk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705063017016288af81@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:01:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j6101cVA024555 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Margaret Bourke White! Richard Burton! That family's newsletter... can't remember the name. Boris Drucker! On 6/30/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Good choice. Skaneateles is a beautiful lake. Hey. If you have some > extra time come on up to the University and the 6th floor of the library > and I'll show you some of our treasures. > > > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 6:39 PM >>> > Thank you. Natalie is going out in search of food and I'm heading for > the > shower. I think we'll do the cruise around the lake tomorrow. The Erie > Canal tours don't start until after July 9. > > Betty > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 19:32:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j610WfJr011124 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:32:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:32:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEF25C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:32:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4630287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:32:41 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j610Wemc028641 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:32:40 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 117526522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:32:40 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050630172906.01a1fe68@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:32:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But now both Larry and Natalie have mentioned Ithica. Decisions, decisions. I guess we'll decide tomorrow. There is always Cooperstown. . . . . . Larry has been surfing the sites mentioned while I snoozed. I love my laptop. If the list accepted attachments, I'd show you a great photo of Niagara Falls. I sent it to Karen. Betty At 05:09 PM 6/30/2005, you wrote: >Earl Browder >Benjamin Spock >Albert Schweitzer >Dorothy Thompson >Rudyard Kipling >Miklos Roza >Stephen Crane >Gerrit Smith >The Oneida Community > >etc etc > > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/30/05 8:01 PM >>> >Margaret Bourke White! Richard Burton! That family's newsletter... >can't remember the name. Boris Drucker! > >On 6/30/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Good choice. Skaneateles is a beautiful lake. Hey. If you have some > > extra time come on up to the University and the 6th floor of the >library > > and I'll show you some of our treasures. > > > > > > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 6:39 PM >>> > > Thank you. Natalie is going out in search of food and I'm heading for > > the > > shower. I think we'll do the cruise around the lake tomorrow. The >Erie > > Canal tours don't start until after July 9. > > > > Betty > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 19:59:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j610x8Jr013977 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:59:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:59:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEF2C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:59:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4631075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:59:07 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j610wTCo030490 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:58:29 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:58:29 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:57:55 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If Larry is searching for Ithica he won't find it. It's Ithaca. :-) Ithaca or Cooperstown would both be great choices. If you go to Ithaca, I highly recommend eating at Moosewood. It's in the Dewitt Mall (the old High School) just a block from the Commons (the center of town). I don't have suggestions for Cooperstown eating because I've never eaten there. I'm sure you will have fun whatever you do and if you do happen to find yourselves in Syracuse between 9 and about 3 (I'm leaving work early tomorrow to go calling hours - a long story which i will tell you later) >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 8:32 PM >>> But now both Larry and Natalie have mentioned Ithica. Decisions, decisions. I guess we'll decide tomorrow. There is always Cooperstown. . . . . . Larry has been surfing the sites mentioned while I snoozed. I love my laptop. If the list accepted attachments, I'd show you a great photo of Niagara Falls. I sent it to Karen. Betty At 05:09 PM 6/30/2005, you wrote: >Earl Browder >Benjamin Spock >Albert Schweitzer >Dorothy Thompson >Rudyard Kipling >Miklos Roza >Stephen Crane >Gerrit Smith >The Oneida Community > >etc etc > > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 06/30/05 8:01 PM >>> >Margaret Bourke White! Richard Burton! That family's newsletter... >can't remember the name. Boris Drucker! > >On 6/30/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Good choice. Skaneateles is a beautiful lake. Hey. If you have some > > extra time come on up to the University and the 6th floor of the >library > > and I'll show you some of our treasures. > > > > > > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 6:39 PM >>> > > Thank you. Natalie is going out in search of food and I'm heading for > > the > > shower. I think we'll do the cruise around the lake tomorrow. The >Erie > > Canal tours don't start until after July 9. > > > > Betty > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 19:59:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j610x8Js013977 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:59:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:59:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEF2AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:59:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4631080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:59:07 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j610wwU0030498 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:58:58 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 117533296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:58:57 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050630175840.019a8440@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:58:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What are your hours? At 03:43 PM 6/30/2005, you wrote: >Good choice. Skaneateles is a beautiful lake. Hey. If you have some >extra time come on up to the University and the 6th floor of the library >and I'll show you some of our treasures. > > > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 6:39 PM >>> >Thank you. Natalie is going out in search of food and I'm heading for >the >shower. I think we'll do the cruise around the lake tomorrow. The Erie >Canal tours don't start until after July 9. > >Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 20:54:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j611sDJr021608 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:54:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:54:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEF480@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:54:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4635560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:54:12 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j611sCaF006091 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:54:12 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:54:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:53:49 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'll be there from 9 am to 3 pm tomorrow >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 8:58 PM >>> What are your hours? At 03:43 PM 6/30/2005, you wrote: >Good choice. Skaneateles is a beautiful lake. Hey. If you have some >extra time come on up to the University and the 6th floor of the library >and I'll show you some of our treasures. > > > >>> bclark@BERKELEY.EDU 06/30/05 6:39 PM >>> >Thank you. Natalie is going out in search of food and I'm heading for >the >shower. I think we'll do the cruise around the lake tomorrow. The Erie >Canal tours don't start until after July 9. > >Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 21:25:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j612POJr027020 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:25:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:25:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A54E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:25:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4636199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:25:24 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j612FMrD007656 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:15:22 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j612EgR3001652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:14:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:15:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: sup? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I cannot access wl archives - what are you guys up to? Do I want to know? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 23:26:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j614QPJr012195 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:26:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:26:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEF9C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 0:26:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4645824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:25:29 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j614KJk0018611 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:20:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952A02B1CA for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <339612779.20050630095531@gailndan.com> References: <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Paul-Barfoot: Any degree of subtlety invites obsession with irrelevant detail X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:25:54 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 8:55 AM -0700 6/30/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >6/30/2005, 9:49 AM, steph wrote: > >= >> On another note, I see where Spain joined the ranks of those countries >= >> allowing gay marriages. >s> = >s> = Well, they already lisp, it was just a matter of time. >s> = > >s> I think this is out of line. > >I think it was meant as a joke....though a tacky one. But not having >written it, I can't say for sure. > >Of course there have been much tackier things on this list over the >years. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 23:42:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j614gSJr014640 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:42:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:42:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FEFA8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 0:42:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4647438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:42:18 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j614gIiS020615 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:42:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484812B8CB for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <339612779.20050630095531@gailndan.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050630092139.01bf4870@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a705063007016ca63fa3@mail.gmail.com> <20050630154958.GA8626@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Paul-Barfoot: Any degree of subtlety invites obsession with irrelevant detail X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:42:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: facts for the Fourth Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:25 PM -0700 6/30/2005, Bookrat wrote: [a new-content-free reply] Please ignore the preceding mouse-click-o. Ken Miller Department of Correct Shuns From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 23:43:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j614h3Jr014718 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FEFAA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 0:43:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4647487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:43:03 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j614h2Wm020675 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:43:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F492B1CB for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Paul-Barfoot: Any degree of subtlety invites obsession with irrelevant detail X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:42:52 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: sup? Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:15 PM -0700 6/30/2005, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I cannot access wl archives - what are you guys up to? Do I want to know? Surprising the hell out of everyone, Torkel showed up at Finger Fest. Even more shocking: after a whirlwind three-hour courtship, he and Natalie eloped. Ken Miller Gilbert G. Smith School of Diegesis From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jun 30 23:57:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j614veJr016647 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:57:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:57:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006A5B4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 0:57:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4647788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:57:40 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j614vNAq021692 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:57:23 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FEFA7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 0:57:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200507010457.j614vNAq021692@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:57:23 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: sup? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:42:52 -0700, Bookrat wrote: >At 7:15 PM -0700 6/30/2005, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>I cannot access wl archives - what are you guys up to? Do I want to know? > >Surprising the hell out of everyone, Torkel showed up at Finger Fest. Even >more shocking: after a whirlwind three-hour courtship, he and Natalie >eloped. > >Ken Miller >Gilbert G. Smith School of Diegesis LOL! And to think it all happened on our front porch! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 07:05:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61C54Jr012693 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 07:05:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 07:05:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A5E2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 8:05:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:05:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61C53cL026919 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:05:03 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so164454nzf for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 05:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.15 with SMTP id l15mr755782nzb; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 05:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 05:05:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z7NRyphKjEAunlBJveYs9bbNrgv/oi2fbMw2/OPqLXemhLmfVD/Ed2vbN3NgLGHJdLrDk+CHj+gDcjE3wuwccqbqfgqNVs4gmptakksnpT+pqZqVADrV6BO0EJNSrl1taElxCalbXsPy9fQ+AgC5BwwblsWOktDUQCpVpGa+BwI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070105057440e93b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 07:05:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701045648.01aa1620@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701045648.01aa1620@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j61C53cL026920 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > >I'm sure you will have fun whatever you do and if you do happen to find > >yourselves in Syracuse between 9 and about 3 (I'm leaving work early > >tomorrow to go calling hours - a long story which i will tell you later) > > Paul, we decided to go to Ithaca so we probably won't be able to stop by, > which is disappointing, but we'll see you tonight? > > They run the cruise on Saturday at Skaneateles Lake, too, or we can do it > maybe Monday. > > We're off to see cemeteries, gorges, and Moosewood. And visit my spirit from when I used to live there. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 07:22:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61CLtJr014695 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 07:21:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 07:22:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF00F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 8:01:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:01:54 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61C1sOl026269 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:01:54 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 75032518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 05:01:53 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701045648.01aa1620@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 05:01:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I'm sure you will have fun whatever you do and if you do happen to find >yourselves in Syracuse between 9 and about 3 (I'm leaving work early >tomorrow to go calling hours - a long story which i will tell you later) Paul, we decided to go to Ithaca so we probably won't be able to stop by, which is disappointing, but we'll see you tonight? They run the cruise on Saturday at Skaneateles Lake, too, or we can do it maybe Monday. We're off to see cemeteries, gorges, and Moosewood. I love Syracuse! This is a great motel, btw. 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Remote recording 6.PPPoE From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 08:06:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61D61Jr021051 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:06:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 08:06:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A614C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 9:06:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4590616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:06:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61D607X006813 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:06:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so169405nzf for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 06:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr763112nzc; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 06:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 06:06:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=TcPeiRfLckDDbST6uVc2STxqW+fiA4DeOdthocIQpzhEaIcYmcptFAn1xOudeClpfqj5zF7OZmF9Af6OSh8pzvUJZxxHnoFK2SsA/QkCxtTh0aASr/Owvq7dxZ7JEWUm+2YDJRGWB6ppuu2FxXkZyRM6+qIX7UnGoSzWLYowM8A= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:06:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: As you may have figured out Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j61D607X006815 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 08:10:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61DAhJr021698 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:10:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 08:10:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF03BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 9:00:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4590014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:00:42 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61D0gBB005532 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:00:42 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-101.gwi.net [216.195.163.101]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j61D0c9U095586 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:00:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050701085951.01befe98@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 09:00:34 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Hey Rashmi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Now is NOT the time to visit Minnesota: http://tinyurl.com/bxxav cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 08:36:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61DaBJr025046 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:36:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 08:36:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF04AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 9:19:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4591973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:19:29 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61DJT94009586 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:19:29 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CAFFDCB052467 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:19:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000501c57e3f$7a731910$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: As you may have figured out Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:19:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:06 AM Subject: As you may have figured out >I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. > Sorry. Thought you would. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 08:36:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61DaBJr025047 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:36:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 08:36:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF04A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 9:21:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4592115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:21:28 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61DLRno010001 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:21:28 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 96092802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 09:19:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42C54357.8010702@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 09:21:27 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out References: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. > > I'm so sorry! I was so hoping that this one would work out for you. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 08:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61DaBJr025044 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:36:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 08:36:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF047F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 9:16:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4591633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:16:10 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61DG9Bx008901 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:16:09 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j61DG7iQ026810 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:16:08 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200507011316.j61DG7iQ026810@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 01 Jul 2005 08:06:00 CDT." <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:16:07 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen says: >I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. I'm sorry to hear that. Not getting a job you applied for always stinks, and not getting it after having had an interview is worse. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 09:22:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61EMIJr030647 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:22:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 09:22:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF0838@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:22:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4599674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:22:17 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61EMHKZ022255 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:22:17 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:22:17 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:21:52 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: the news from Ithaca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, Betty, and Larry are exploring Ithaca. They report that they can distinctly feel Karen-vibes there. Arriving this morning and becoming somewhat lost, they stopped one of Ithaca's finest to ask for directions to the cemetery. After several attempts to communicate a complicated set of turns, he finally decided that an escort was more efficient and led them there - complete with lights flashing. Nothing was mentioned about a siren, but in the diegetic version I'm sure it will appear. 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News http://news.yahoo.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 10:50:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61FobJr009484 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:50:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:50:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF1963@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:50:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4630304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:50:37 -0400 Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com (imo-m14.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61Foahb007201 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:50:36 -0400 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r1.7.) id c.1ee.3ed36b7e (48600) for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:50:32 -0400 (EDT) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ee.3ed36b7e.2ff6c047@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:50:31 EDT Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] As you may have figured out To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5038 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 7/1/2005 8:06:12 AM Central Daylight Time, innervator@GMAIL.COM writes: << I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. >> I'm sorry, Karen; I hope a better job turns up for you soon. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com www.saveblindjustice.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 11:37:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61GbMJr015573 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:37:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:37:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF1D83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:37:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4637357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:37:18 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61GZ59c015464 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:35:05 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 97937723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:32:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42C570B8.1080303@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:35:04 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: For Kristin ... References: <200507011529.j61FTGCj003346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200507011529.j61FTGCj003346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ...who likes to "click-cluck" these things: http://www.viceking.net/bubblewrap.swf/bubblewrap1.swf Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 11:41:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61GfCJr016109 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:41:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:41:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A76BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:41:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4639643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:39:15 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61GdElB016226 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:39:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F8B974F0 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:39:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02214-06 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:39:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028AC98CA4 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:39:12 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42C571DD.70205@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:39:57 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMTD References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <002d01c57db5$91faea20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <002d01c57db5$91faea20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.534 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >> What happens/-ed/is happening/has happened to me these days: >> >> Cannot but share the atmosphere I'm in just now: >> >> http://www.tartu.ee/hansa/ > > > Kristin . . enjoyed your sharing . . sounds like fun > and very relaxing/ What I hadn't realized fully before the opening ceremony at 10 p.m. yesterday: that the attribute "international" meant the days here are for all old Hanseatic towns. So groups of guests came in a procession in their alphabetical order: from Lübeck and Hamburg and Rostock and many other German towns, Visby! Bergen! Four other Estonian towns beside Tartu, then Latvian, Polish... Oh, I do not know what other towns of which other countries... Novgorod, of course!... And today they have been showing their arts and goods. Workshops everywhere, stages for performances... There've been smaller Hanseatic days in Tartu earlier, too, but every year (?) there are also days of this kind held, international ones, just in one of the towns having once belonged to the Hanseatic League. I feel partly as if being in the Middle Ages; otoh, some ideals of those times, and these of the Hanseatic League, are what make me think the European Union should be a good thing, and should become better, if only the ideals reached everyone. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 11:52:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61GqeJr018043 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:52:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:52:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF200E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:51:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4642211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:51:11 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61GpAC1018072 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:51:10 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD286983B5 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:51:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03058-05 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:51:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E019E98CB3 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:51:08 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42C574AA.7080609@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:51:54 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out References: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.535 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. > > :-( Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 11:52:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61GqeJr018041 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:52:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:52:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF1FBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:46:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4641268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:46:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61GkAXb017390 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:46:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so326424wra for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 09:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.142.11 with SMTP id p11mr1759252wrd; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 09:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:46:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sQuNW4xXPQJlSrPqI55MRui2lK3pidgkFU5Y35Pda+ebkOb2R22Vh/PBZ7t+d/EHtzr8LEASWKZtrnw0+W9dI/D5Ng5TNYm1LhR2gesXI8FB/wQBKXrhts2F1iBb0BncNBmhnrrvJ8WWEibB80YfDopQmLYFPtkail+klClqVMA= Message-ID: <83db447a05070109463f73e6d8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:46:09 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - O'Connor to Retire From Supreme Court - Yahoo! News In-Reply-To: <200507011529.j61FTGCj003346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200507011529.j61FTGCj003346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j61GqeJr018041 On 7/1/05, Alec Plotkin wrote: > > Alec Plotkin (plotkina@isc.upenn.edu) has sent you a news article. (Email > address has not been verified.) > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Personal message: > > Pray for the USA. Indeed. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 11:52:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61GqeJr018040 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:52:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:52:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF1F52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:42:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4640424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:42:39 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61GgcDs016906 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:42:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6C198CA8 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:42:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02499-01 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:42:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0678F98B1A for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:42:38 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42C572AB.5000002@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:43:23 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sup? References: <200507010457.j614vNAq021692@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200507010457.j614vNAq021692@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.247 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:42:52 -0700, Bookrat wrote: > > > >>At 7:15 PM -0700 6/30/2005, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >> >> >>>I cannot access wl archives - what are you guys up to? Do I want to know? >>> >>> >>Surprising the hell out of everyone, Torkel showed up at Finger Fest. >> >> >Even > > >>more shocking: after a whirlwind three-hour courtship, he and Natalie >>eloped. >> >>Ken Miller >>Gilbert G. Smith School of Diegesis >> >> > >LOL! >And to think it all happened on our front porch! > > Husshh! Hasn't it been said several times that what happens at a Wordsler's Fest should remain there!? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 12:18:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61HI2Jr021734 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:18:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:18:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF20D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:08:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4643413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:08:01 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61H7xpi020524 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:07:59 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF20D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:07:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200507011707.j61H7xpi020524@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:07:59 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: when you next get a post from me... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'll be in the company of Festlers! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 12:20:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61HJsJr022086 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:19:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:20:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF212A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:19:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4644176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:19:53 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61HJrBk022381 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:19:53 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8616598CD2 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:19:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05054-07 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:19:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6283A98B88 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:19:51 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42C57B5B.9050100@akad.ee> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:20:27 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Kristin ... References: <200507011529.j61FTGCj003346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42C570B8.1080303@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42C570B8.1080303@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.535 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > ...who likes to "click-cluck" these things: > > http://www.viceking.net/bubblewrap.swf/bubblewrap1.swf LOL! I choose the manic model right away. When the time comes that web connection will provide tactile perception, in addition to audible and visible ones, I'll become one of the most manic visitors of the page. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 12:34:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61HY5Jr024130 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:34:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:34:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF216F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:24:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4644588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:24:05 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61HO49I023127 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:24:04 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:24:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:23:56 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: when you next get a post from me... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU interesting word I hope to be there at some point this evening to festle with you BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 07/01/05 1:07 PM >>> I'll be in the company of Festlers! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 12:34:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61HY5Jr024131 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:34:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:34:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF2192@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:29:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4645420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:29:16 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61HTCSf024382 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:29:15 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24308529 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:54:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:29:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:29:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1372996746.20050701112911@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: sup? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 245, in=90296, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 6/30/2005, 10:42 PM, Bookrat wrote: B> Surprising the hell out of everyone, Torkel showed up at Finger Fest. Even B> more shocking: after a whirlwind three-hour courtship, he and Natalie B> eloped. Let us know where the wedding pix are posted. Surely Natalie had someone take a few snaps with her now-working-correctly new camera. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 12:36:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61HaZJr024465 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:36:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:36:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF21CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:36:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4645880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:36:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61HaY0m025286 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:36:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so196366nzf for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.82.12 with SMTP id f12mr833028nzb; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:36:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EtmWTf6Z7k2JptPRO8uLbUvq5VN1WRdmC7HcW1fibzdmO2UN6fSUd9xGxrDxObmUrG8g7O3SJHK7cxJWqKDx1MY0H4dz1r4Oalm1btDh/H4A3a+hKze5aMmDu5l/Cx6Vz+LGR7aNB2w23dGMDs2ldCHvHlQM/cqIwqivHB4OyzM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070110365e998e62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:36:33 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: when you next get a post from me... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j61HaZ0m025287 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU TMI.:) On 7/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > interesting word > > I hope to be there at some point this evening to festle with you > > BrP > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 07/01/05 1:07 PM >>> > I'll be in the company of Festlers! > clo > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 14:19:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61JIqJr004765 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:18:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:19:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006A8AC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:18:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4667064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:10:52 -0400 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61J0o5l007896 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:00:51 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([82.44.219.187]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:01:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roy Jaques Subject: Re: WHTMTD Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:02:26 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2005 19:01:33.0100 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BF8E6C0:01C57E6F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 30 Jun 2005, at 22:30, Dan Lester wrote: > ooohhh...this reminded me of a word pronunciation question... > > To me it is pronounced TRY-color, as in TRY-angle, etc. > > However when watching the LeMans Race several times the (British, I > believe) announcer kept referring to the flag at the Start/Finish line > as the French "trickler" or perhaps closer to "tri-kuh-ler", no real > emphasis on any syllable. > > What's right? Is this a variation like color/colour, or have I been > wrong forever, or.... or maybe being the French flag it could be "tricolore". Which is pronounced as ... > > dan Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 16:29:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61LTNJr021015 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:29:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:29:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF42BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:29:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4703454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:29:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61LTMdn028800 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:29:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so343263wra for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.16 with SMTP id 16mr1918046wrc; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:29:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rrRU1yPaj/oM/BM0t84spBqzhqe4KEQmgBoBY7lInDCjJf9TszoODS5R2B4cJMy59GAkTrf695oUyq83xCEowGqe7QgY3a/SAxCuFTDb1WCidGVC0Ga38sC/otwtuTx7TOkb/Cqh8ODzFW+ye8VZ20SJjC7kRkVncISw3gHO2jA= Message-ID: <44dce1c105070114293de72206@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:29:22 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j61LTMdn028801 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Natalie, Betty, and Larry are exploring Ithaca. They report that they > can distinctly feel Karen-vibes there. > And how is the weather? We are enroute, but decided hail, highwinds, and even devil's tails were a bit much. It almost came to me coming alone and Alan and the kids in a weather shelter somewhere. We made a compromise, we are in a mystery place - a popular female vocalist, one of who's songs torches the vanity of a former beau......a candidate for this position is in town. More later.... T&'A From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 16:42:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61LgBJr022801 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:42:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:42:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF42E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:32:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4703783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:32:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61LW9qX029405 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:32:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i7so397901wra for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.49.72 with SMTP id w72mr960347wrw; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:32:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=D1SjEbm8nLuCYiRi354NFyDEzGx7p7/rD14DWKE1fxFb+QGsEanhSkF2twom0zW5poGBRJt2boksIflRA9gwabbETZSP5bAZGdxeJqrkWSSZPyrDUqFzYrBrnMRqGbSV4g6tEKyiRS+coo6gjOJKcdlhxsFTt7KVN+RHdVRx1SE= Message-ID: <44dce1c10507011432389718fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:32:09 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j61LWAqX029412 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. > So sorry Karen, my initial response is unrepeatable. :( On the positive side, sound like you made a good connection. Maybe that will help in the long run. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 16:48:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61LmHJr023458 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:48:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:48:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF44F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:48:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4707144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:48:13 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61LmC17031791 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:48:12 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so371923wra for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.59 with SMTP id 59mr1811949wro; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:48:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gOL7uJt0TrBzx4x4UwZefN2mDyqMikJ2s8z8xIvoYqYEbeCAccxYKRWAN4CwnV/ZgnXJLb8BLw/IPOK9b8MIDIsqU/gDfKOJ4yW3ZGhqh5avqG7NVGf6Z2NuhLqRqw19i/4VsauJRxIUkx0bo70d6WAhJpT8ivEz+5OPwIPv6bk= Message-ID: <83db447a05070114485a79f617@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:48:12 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: <44dce1c105070114293de72206@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <44dce1c105070114293de72206@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j61LmHJr023458 On 7/1/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > And how is the weather? We are enroute, but decided hail, > highwinds, and even devil's tails were a bit much. It almost came to > me coming alone and Alan and the kids in a weather shelter somewhere. Hmmm. You're having interesting weather, wherever you are. Here, it's about 60 F (the high for the day). The winds have shifted to the SE; it continues to be misty, drizzly, and (of course) heavily overcast. The shops are selling lots of sweatshirts. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 17:18:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61MIGJr027026 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:18:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:18:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF476A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:08:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4711584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:08:15 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61M8FgM002148 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:08:15 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j61M8EJr025914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200507012208.j61M8EJr025914@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: As you may have figured out Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. >From Terry: > So sorry Karen, my initial response is unrepeatable. :( > > On the positive side, sound like you made a good connection. Maybe > that will help in the long run. My sentiments exactly ... if it helps, I've not heard any good news on the job front recently from anyone ... those who are working seem grudgingly happy they are employed and hope they will stay so ... Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 17:25:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61MOvJr027707 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:24:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:25:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006A9DC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:24:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4715046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:24:56 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61MOtMO004348 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:24:55 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j61MOtGs025969; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:24:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200507012224.j61MOtGs025969@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca Cc: jboor@math.umb.edu Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On 7/1/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > > > And how is the weather? We are enroute, but decided hail, > > highwinds, and even devil's tails were a bit much. It almost came to > > me coming alone and Alan and the kids in a weather shelter somewhere. >From Clyde: > Hmmm. You're having interesting weather, wherever you are. Here, it's about > 60 F (the high for the day). The winds have shifted to the SE; it continues > to be misty, drizzly, and (of course) heavily overcast. The shops are > selling lots of sweatshirts. Today has been the first day all week it has not been stiflingly & stultifyingly humid here. While it has been overcast most of the day, the sun is now shining and it is delightful --- about 75 F ... very little breeze, but windows are open -- no need for fans at the moment ... We got none of the weather front the Wilds encountered. What are "devil's tails"? Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 17:32:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61MWAJr028604 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:32:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:32:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF4A20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:32:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4716233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:32:10 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61MW8Vw005255 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:32:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so217964nzf for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.15 with SMTP id m15mr595947nzm; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:32:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Rexdl3f8vHLhm5Sbx2AitStZgGeR/GzjLf0VqyOEQtLTENdJp2RKbrnOTS0YqMufYBiUHLGZw82Z7sEeT/so6tDDHBI+ujIZH8JEJLfa6t95MbOr2V+vn5u8iugQDSlTjcFZIPg+Qm01gCk+nzW4YRcPjHaHKGV75PonjrX0gOQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070115326ad2d252@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:32:08 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out In-Reply-To: <200507012208.j61M8EJr025914@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507012208.j61M8EJr025914@math.umb.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j61MW9Vw005258 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > if it helps, I've not heard any good news on > the job front recently from anyone ... those who are working seem grudgingly > happy they are employed and hope they will stay so ... No, it really doesn't help at all. My job is scheduled to disappear; I do not have the option to remain grudgingly employed. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 17:41:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61MfIJr029642 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:41:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:41:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AA06B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:41:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4716180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:41:18 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j61MVFhY005137 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:31:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 5615 invoked by uid 1003); 1 Jul 2005 22:31:14 -0000 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:31:14 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out Message-ID: <20050701223114.GA4196@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 08:06:00AM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. Sorry to hear that, Karen ... hope a better one is on the way From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 17:57:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61MvaJr031396 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:57:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:57:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AA41A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:57:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4724586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:57:36 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61MvZkn008232 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:57:36 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24568990 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:57:51 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:58:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:57:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <713302596.20050701165735@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 243, in=88772, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/1/2005, 7:06 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. Bummer indeed. Especially after that guy made it sound like you almost had it in the bag. Sorry to hear that. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 17:59:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61MxlJr031751 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:59:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:59:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AA548@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:59:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4725475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:59:19 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61MxIQ3008428 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:59:18 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24480741 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:11:58 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:59:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:59:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <328801725.20050701165918@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - O'Connor to Retire From Supreme Court - Yahoo! News In-Reply-To: <200507011529.j61FTGCj003346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507011529.j61FTGCj003346@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamDetect: *: 1.498000 Subject has many exclamations=0.7,Subject contains lots of white space=1.6,Aspam=-0.8 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 246, in=102998, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/1/2005, 9:29 AM, Alec Plotkin wrote: AP> O'Connor to Retire From Supreme Court - Yahoo! News AP> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050701/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_o_connor Wow. Not what we expected. So maybe there will be two for Bush to fill soon. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 18:41:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61NfEJr003728 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:41:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 18:41:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF4FCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:02:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4725715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:02:41 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61N2eFa008778 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:02:40 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24333938 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:28:22 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:03:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:02:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1074843088.20050701170240@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: WHTMTD In-Reply-To: References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 245, in=90434, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/1/2005, 1:02 PM, Roy Jaques wrote: RJ> or maybe being the French flag it could be "tricolore". Which is RJ> pronounced as ... >> >> dan Pronounced as what? What the guy said on TV? Or yet something different. The speaker was British, but the race of course was in France. RJ> Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 18:41:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61NfEJr003729 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:41:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 18:41:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF4F9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:03:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4725837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:03:59 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61N3wKS008960 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:03:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24481101 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:16:39 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:04:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:03:58 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <281319885.20050701170358@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: <83db447a05070114485a79f617@mail.gmail.com> References: <44dce1c105070114293de72206@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a05070114485a79f617@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 246, in=102999, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/1/2005, 3:48 PM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: CV> Hmmm. You're having interesting weather, wherever you are. Here, it's about CV> 60 F (the high for the day). The winds have shifted to the SE; it continues CV> to be misty, drizzly, and (of course) heavily overcast. The shops are CV> selling lots of sweatshirts. And here it is low nineties, but will be mid eighties all weekend, before going back up next week. Humidity about 20 percent. No clouds. Top down weather. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 18:41:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j61NfEJr003725 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:41:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 18:41:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF4FCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:01:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4725594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:01:13 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j61N1DUp008610 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:01:13 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 23554949 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:46:05 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:01:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:01:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1536329163.20050701170112@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: sup? In-Reply-To: <42C572AB.5000002@akad.ee> References: <200507010457.j614vNAq021692@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42C572AB.5000002@akad.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 241, in=86652, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/1/2005, 10:43 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: KS> Husshh! Hasn't it been said several times that what happens at a KS> Wordsler's Fest should remain there!? Nope. That's Las Vegas. "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" is their current slogan. Normally EVERYTHING that happens at a fest gets reported one way or another. I'm still waiting for the wedding photos. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 20:31:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j621UpJr018380 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:30:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:31:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF5E12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:30:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4750013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:30:50 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j621UoGs024471 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:30:50 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so362701wra for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 18:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.45.21 with SMTP id s21mr2029951wrs; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 18:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:30:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ELZ1esSVGF7VniJfRVhLMn37zfCd0HvutDpvgfBJF8Dj2fBgr8PxTM9gJ11mX26hjO4+OFBysFGDPMTaEmekF4bF3nzpcLeVZk4XreKLQxqLmRZdvUWMnQjCiJ+MX7aR1d77e4Ho+TpYhGgRs1moR5+d/Ws3VEc2u1JdhqjuUuM= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050701183054b73521@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:30:49 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: <200507012224.j61MOtGs025969@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507012224.j61MOtGs025969@math.umb.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j621UoGs024473 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Joan Boorstein wrote: > > On 7/1/05, Terry Wild wrote: > > > > > > And how is the weather? We are enroute, but decided hail, > > > highwinds, and even devil's tails were a bit much. It almost came to > > > me coming alone and Alan and the kids in a weather shelter somewhere. > > From Clyde: > > Hmmm. You're having interesting weather, wherever you are. Here, it's about > > 60 F (the high for the day). The winds have shifted to the SE; it continues > > to be misty, drizzly, and (of course) heavily overcast. The shops are > > selling lots of sweatshirts. > > Today has been the first day all week it has not been stiflingly & > stultifyingly humid here. While it has been overcast most of the day, the sun > is now shining and it is delightful --- about 75 F ... very little breeze, but > windows are open -- no need for fans at the moment ... > > We got none of the weather front the Wilds encountered. What are "devil's > tails"? > > Joan > Ummm, nice weather around... but what 's happening in NY? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 20:57:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j621vYJr021675 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:57:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:57:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF5E78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:57:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4750901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:57:34 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j621vXbk026415 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:57:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j621vWRZ027482 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:57:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42C5F48F.6090807@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:57:35 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out References: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. > > > What job was that? -a From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 21:24:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j622O8Jr024956 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:24:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:24:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AB1C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:24:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4751904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:24:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j622O7pm028383 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:24:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so228403nzf for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr968540nzc; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:24:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RLUWhVCat6RcJxMExrJA3DQb2ZD+5clRLMvvXyPc5RMnRpC5EBo0qBfYjwsdBn2hJXux/8gszEmm0HbvpjuGbsXAp1KAQhjjVtlclyLUGzW46U5nLgvrczaDwq6saw16eXa9I5HWlgSfBA84fx1n/vsZG2U63HAbiVpfLFP9ewM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507011924355f619f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:24:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out In-Reply-To: <42C5F48F.6090807@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> <42C5F48F.6090807@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j622O8pm028384 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Anne Toal wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. > > > > > > > What job was that? A technical writing job that I applied for. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 21:49:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j622nVJr028529 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:49:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:49:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF5F69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:49:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4752996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:49:31 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j622nUNj030358 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:49:31 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116778092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:49:30 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701194532.01a25548@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:49:27 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Fest update In-Reply-To: <1074843088.20050701170240@gailndan.com> References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> <1074843088.20050701170240@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tonight there were eight. It was the most wonderful evening. Clo has a terrific house with a perfect front porch, partially hidden with foliage. Terrific wine, food, and company. Thanks for calling, Karen. It was fun talking to you, too. Looking forward to Joan's arrival and the Wild Bunch. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 21:49:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j622nfJr028554 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:49:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:49:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF5F57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:49:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4753007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:49:41 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j622nb85030381 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:49:37 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF5F1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:49:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200507020249.j622nb85030381@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:49:36 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:29:22 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: >On 7/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> Natalie, Betty, and Larry are exploring Ithaca. They report that they >> can distinctly feel Karen-vibes there. >> > >And how is the weather? We are enroute, but decided hail, >highwinds, and even devil's tails were a bit much. It almost came to >me coming alone and Alan and the kids in a weather shelter somewhere. >We made a compromise, we are in a mystery place - a popular female >vocalist, one of who's songs torches the vanity of a former >beau......a candidate for this position is in town. > >More later.... > >T&'A Hope the weather is cleared up by now. It was a gorges day (hehehe), right, Festlers? It sprinkled for about 20 minutes at midday. Hope things settled down and all are enroute again! What do Warren Beatty and Carly Simon have to do with the road to central NY? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:12:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623C3Jr032385 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:12:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:12:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF616A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:07:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4757147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:07:14 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6237Eo0000439 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:07:14 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116780901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:07:13 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701200634.01b37410@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:07:11 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: <44dce1c105070114293de72206@mail.gmail.com> References: <44dce1c105070114293de72206@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:29 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: >On 7/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Natalie, Betty, and Larry are exploring Ithaca. They report that they > > can distinctly feel Karen-vibes there. > > > >And how is the weather? We are enroute, but decided hail, >highwinds, and even devil's tails were a bit much. It almost came to >me coming alone and Alan and the kids in a weather shelter somewhere. >We made a compromise, we are in a mystery place - a popular female >vocalist, one of who's songs torches the vanity of a former >beau......a candidate for this position is in town. > >More later.... > >T&'A Warm during the day but cools off nicely! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:12:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623C3Jr032383 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:12:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:12:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF6159@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:05:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4757009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:05:48 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6235ltc000339 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:05:47 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116780671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:05:47 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701200509.01998668@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:05:44 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: when you next get a post from me... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You're a wonderful festler! Betty At 10:23 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote: >interesting word > >I hope to be there at some point this evening to festle with you > >BrP > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 07/01/05 1:07 PM >>> >I'll be in the company of Festlers! >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:12:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623C3Jr032386 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:12:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:12:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF604A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:02:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4755040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:02:02 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62321OP032022 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:02:01 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116780001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:02:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701195901.019bd1b8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:01:58 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:57 PM 6/30/2005, you wrote: >If Larry is searching for Ithica he won't find it. It's Ithaca. :-) > >Ithaca or Cooperstown would both be great choices. If you go to Ithaca, >I highly recommend eating at Moosewood. It's in the Dewitt Mall (the >old High School) just a block from the Commons (the center of town). It was wonderful! I needed the nourishment to hike up Buttermilk Falls. Ithaca IS gorges. I'm afraid I would have slowed Rashmi down because I had to stop to catch my breath and let my heart slow down a bit. Beautiful views and worth it. From there we went to Cayuga Lake, a winery, and more cemeteries. They have beautiful cemeteries here. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:12:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623C3Jr032384 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:12:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:12:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF6168@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:09:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4757299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:09:31 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6239VIK000594 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:09:31 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116781282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:09:30 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701200829.01b43778@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:09:28 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: <200507020249.j622nb85030381@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507020249.j622nb85030381@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:49 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: >On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:29:22 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: > > >On 7/1/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> Natalie, Betty, and Larry are exploring Ithaca. They report that they > >> can distinctly feel Karen-vibes there. > >> > > > >And how is the weather? We are enroute, but decided hail, > >highwinds, and even devil's tails were a bit much. It almost came to > >me coming alone and Alan and the kids in a weather shelter somewhere. > >We made a compromise, we are in a mystery place - a popular female > >vocalist, one of who's songs torches the vanity of a former > >beau......a candidate for this position is in town. > > > >More later.... > > > >T&'A > >Hope the weather is cleared up by now. It was a gorges day (hehehe), >right, Festlers? It sprinkled for about 20 minutes at midday. Hope >things settled down and all are enroute again! I don't think we got sprinkles in Ithaca. Wait. There were drops ever so briefly. Didn't even have to turn on the wipers. >What do Warren Beatty and Carly Simon have to do with the road to >central NY? >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:12:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623C3Jr032382 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:12:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:12:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF60A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:03:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4755583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:03:03 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62332iF032249 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:03:03 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116780203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:03:02 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701200241.01b094a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:03:00 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070105057440e93b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701045648.01aa1620@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070105057440e93b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:05 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote: >On 7/1/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > >I'm sure you will have fun whatever you do and if you do happen to find > > >yourselves in Syracuse between 9 and about 3 (I'm leaving work early > > >tomorrow to go calling hours - a long story which i will tell you later) > > > > Paul, we decided to go to Ithaca so we probably won't be able to stop by, > > which is disappointing, but we'll see you tonight? > > > > They run the cruise on Saturday at Skaneateles Lake, too, or we can do it > > maybe Monday. > > > > We're off to see cemeteries, gorges, and Moosewood. > >And visit my spirit from when I used to live there. > >Karen Your presence was indeed felt. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:12:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623C3Js032385 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:12:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:12:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF6130@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:09:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4757327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:09:54 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6239sJZ000623 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:09:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so230224nzf for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.12 with SMTP id j12mr35655nzb; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:09:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=noH/bMfr4U3zBNXhD/2TbR/DmIr+LXIHywYvpfEqh/EJiyBaXFFNwB9f9s6dxZY8IdOlnbtOZ9IZWGVtSOTFI2H91vdan/3q90HcIlBkessGUc03Q0sOGCujgaJAgmM2qQXAXftHwOquOrD3JnkUcSyHyRlT02u5kKtSHKnVzFw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507012009b2d6b05@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:09:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fun along the way to The Fest In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701200241.01b094a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701045648.01aa1620@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070105057440e93b@mail.gmail.com> <6.1.1.1.2.20050701200241.01b094a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j6239sJZ000624 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 05:05 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote: > >On 7/1/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > > > >I'm sure you will have fun whatever you do and if you do happen to find > > > >yourselves in Syracuse between 9 and about 3 (I'm leaving work early > > > >tomorrow to go calling hours - a long story which i will tell you later) > > > > > > Paul, we decided to go to Ithaca so we probably won't be able to stop by, > > > which is disappointing, but we'll see you tonight? > > > > > > They run the cruise on Saturday at Skaneateles Lake, too, or we can do it > > > maybe Monday. > > > > > > We're off to see cemeteries, gorges, and Moosewood. > > > >And visit my spirit from when I used to live there. > > > >Karen > > Your presence was indeed felt. :) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:12:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623C3Js032383 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:12:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:12:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF6172@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:11:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4757386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:11:14 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j623B9WK000784 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:11:09 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF6136@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:11:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200507020311.j623B9WK000784@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:11:09 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: sup? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:01:12 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >7/1/2005, 10:43 AM, Kristin Sarv wrote: > >KS> Husshh! Hasn't it been said several times that what happens at a >KS> Wordsler's Fest should remain there!? > >Nope. That's Las Vegas. "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" is >their current slogan. > >Normally EVERYTHING that happens at a fest gets reported one way or >another. I'm still waiting for the wedding photos. Oh, I thought it was just Burning Man - "what happens on the Playa stays on the Playa". I'll bet others report more interesting things, but here's what happened to me: I was online composing a reply to an email from Joan when Larry, Betty and Natalie rang the bell. Sorry Joan, for the delay! Vance and Aaron took over in the kitchen, where I'd done some prep work, and for the next several hours we did nothing but eat, talk, and sample NY wines. Turned out that the crew had warmed up by hitting the FingerLakes Wine Trail earlier in the day, in between cemetery visits. In spite of this, we managed to make a dent in the inventory. Paul and Brian came in just as we were finishing up the main meal, and we spent some time visiting before Brian went on to his next gig, meeting up w/ an old friend. Paul stuck it out here, and we moved on to an exchange of prisoners - Fest shirts for coffee, cheese straws, and Berkely shirts. Topics included genealogy, travel, the local climate and sights, border crossings, private vs public health care, missing wordslers (don't you wish you were here to know....) and Fest shirts. One highlight of the evening was Karen's call - we all got to say hi, and she managed to time it at the exact moment we were discussing her email addresses! Tomorrow am, the regional market. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:15:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623F2Jr032695 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:15:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:15:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AB569@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:05:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4756622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:04:48 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6234lKa032597 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:04:47 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 116780501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:04:47 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701200408.01af0bc8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:04:45 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: sup? In-Reply-To: <42C572AB.5000002@akad.ee> References: <200507010457.j614vNAq021692@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42C572AB.5000002@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:43 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote: >Husshh! Hasn't it been said several times that what happens at a >Wordsler's Fest should remain there!? > >Kristin :-) The good stuff will. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:22:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623MqJr000758 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:22:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:22:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF617B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:12:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4757457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:12:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j623CoCj000850 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:12:50 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so230358nzf for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr988830nzc; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:12:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aGQdIIfvupto/N2Nd1k6Z0a3G/yC5gX6KVD7a6YX/UBEiRfNQtTaAwBnglNVj3V59EO0ZUcZU6gVpAQBwWVATpfdupQn2OBhQB4W71Hqnsp3U+BFrasp222P1dy3y8eagnySg5FuSFS09z0LHLUktceFHyLoWCEUMjiP99YM22s= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070120125577cbe8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:12:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out In-Reply-To: <42C5F48F.6090807@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705070106061d967b3b@mail.gmail.com> <42C5F48F.6090807@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j623CoCj000851 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Anne Toal wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. > > > > > > > What job was that? A job as a Nanook-wrangler. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:34:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623Y9Jr001820 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:34:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:34:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF6193@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:34:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4758192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:34:09 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j623Xsdw002713 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:33:54 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF61E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:33:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200507020333.j623Xsdw002713@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:33:53 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: As you may have figured out To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:12:50 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 7/1/05, Anne Toal wrote: >> A Friend of Andy wrote: >> >> >I did not get the job I interviewed for last week. >> > >> > >> > >> What job was that? > >A job as a Nanook-wrangler. > >Karen You'da been great at it, too! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 1 22:53:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j623rZJr004037 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:53:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 22:53:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AB477@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:53:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4759016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:53:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j623rVmw004688 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:53:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so232081nzf for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr966299nzd; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:53:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kkO3d7tKQrhrSaKCVRxGQgWe5GFkU71p9o0pC3m1hwDkRPDbP07NRF66ZD7D/RfNe2dtuH4E18Z0u3zcezx4QSO8CCfHb7nEBuCO44KWQddywIDCIHzfT3oqxVXiZw5mlhGHFTCFovEtmXVNFQQ9iw45rRbkDqUjuB11lybfrGU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070120533d885229@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:53:31 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sup? In-Reply-To: <200507020311.j623B9WK000784@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507020311.j623B9WK000784@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j623rVmw004690 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > One highlight of the evening was Karen's call - we all > got to say hi, and she managed to time it at the exact moment we > were discussing her email addresses! What did you have to say about my e-mal addresses? I wonder if the Farmer's Market reminds Natalie of Tsukiji. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 01:20:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j626KmJr024563 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 01:20:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:20:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF6569@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 2:20:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4765854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 02:20:48 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j626Kl4t015260 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 02:20:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so409347wra for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 23:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.117.16 with SMTP id p16mr2236982wrc; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 23:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:20:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=b4eIlDhN19xZ/2o2k0pLl4iiLFW1mEiULSeUsHxbe8LsioyvVjIekNEWjfT1gZG/ZLexn94F73ONadnR76TrnBRalV/dYjFZopSwMvyRuPc1o+BLGrR7BtI2IWW41Rp2WmZDhXlc6ZeTiGuCK3AYFpdWdjJV4KDhTRhDL7LVLVg= Message-ID: <8865866a05070123207701764e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:20:47 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I'm a criminal! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j626Kl4t015261 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Swedes don't like the EU, with one very glaring exception - the new quotas for bringing alcohol across the border into Sweden. People travel in droves to either Germany or Denmark to literally fill every cubic inch of their vehicles with beer, wine and spirits. For those of us who live too far away to do so, there is a new option - buying it on the internet. However, the legality of this is in question. At this moment, it is legal because a decision in the courts. But if you ask any customs official or Social Democrats, it is still illegal. Being the pioneer that I am, I ordered a test case of six bottles of Bombay Sapphire. They came yesterday, took longer than we had expected but Torkel and I tested one of the bottles and found it to be gin and not water. I'm pleased. I'm already planning my next order of Weissbier.... Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 01:32:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j626WgJr026088 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 01:32:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:32:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF6531@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 2:22:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4765873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 02:22:41 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j626MeDn015418 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 02:22:40 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j626MdiQ029250 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:22:39 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200507020622.j626MdiQ029250@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a criminal! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:20:47 +0200." <8865866a05070123207701764e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:22:39 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marcia forgot to add that the point of this importing of beer, wine and liquor is that it's very much cheaper than in the state liquor stores. And the Bombay Sapphire, furthermore, came in one-liter bottles... Soggily, T From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 06:21:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62BLSJr004621 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 06:21:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:21:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006ABD06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 7:01:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4582556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:01:26 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62B1QCA022575 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:01:26 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 75348801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 04:01:25 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050702040007.01b03d30@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 04:01:23 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: sup? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070120533d885229@mail.gmail.com> References: <200507020311.j623B9WK000784@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705070120533d885229@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:53 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote: >On 7/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > One highlight of the evening was Karen's call - we all > > got to say hi, and she managed to time it at the exact moment we > > were discussing her email addresses! > >What did you have to say about my e-mal addresses? Do you still have wordwrite.com? >I wonder if the Farmer's Market reminds Natalie of Tsukiji. > >Karen She may or may not go. Cemeteries keep calling. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 07:25:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62CPdJr013606 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:25:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:25:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006ABE33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 8:25:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:25:39 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62CPdhX027962 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:25:39 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so430164wra for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.117.16 with SMTP id p16mr2389580wrc; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 05:25:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bVN1i2ukgHkbJTkwvg0yU9DELvOkST+ZhCLJoCl1S3754vsEvXqRkeIn1Qnn/8E4inW9jpma4to6NLzo0xYzAUqgz20HXgMmRLAAQ9ccOAZQ5cXeMvq9fqn6oenAhcbZnUgmmigwEKIjRlmq4/Y/Jzr0JMx9Hp0yqZ29qIWq18k= Message-ID: <83db447a050702052533a3abd3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:25:38 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a criminal! In-Reply-To: <8865866a05070123207701764e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <8865866a05070123207701764e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j62CPdJr013606 On 7/2/05, Marcia Franzen wrote: > > > ... there is a new option - buying it > on the internet. However, the legality of this is in question. At this > moment, it is legal because a decision in the courts. But if you ask > any customs official or Social Democrats, it is still illegal. Yeah---why should anybody believe the courts? The situation in this country is confused. I'm not sure what the standing of importing via the internet is but I suspect that the revenooers take a dim view. Within the US, some states allow residents to internet-order alcohol from other states, others (including Maine) don't. Some states prohibited the practice in order to protect their in-state wineries---such prohibitions have recently been struck down in court. The others with prohibitions (including Maine) do so as a revenue issue. cwv who prefers Beefeater From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 07:39:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62CdQJr015857 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:39:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:39:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006ABD8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 8:39:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:39:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62CdPFU028683 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:39:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so250160nzf for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.18 with SMTP id m18mr990629nzb; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 05:39:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=abSYuVpQD1Iz+2X7slZmMPJzRVtngheFd2kbtsvqo3g2LJmaJ0sLSrMAdbU05QTytXHssWWK8U6aEsEVYeLw2f/v/MWQPxo2QfnH7sO4TuZ8kg9US7dF3EORE7kzAba+6v5Dtwn4Kr8jYarXkvKsMhJqWEBtxiifbtIb42qovBs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070205397b896e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:39:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sup? In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050702040007.01b03d30@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507020311.j623B9WK000784@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705070120533d885229@mail.gmail.com> <6.1.1.1.2.20050702040007.01b03d30@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j62CdQFU028684 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/2/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Do you still have wordwrite.com? Sure. But it's mostly a spam trap. I have to do a major address reorg, and I just haven't had time. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 07:42:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62CgEJr016261 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:42:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:42:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006ABC90@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 8:42:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:42:14 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62CgDME028965 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:42:14 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j62CgCiQ000597 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:42:12 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200507021242.j62CgCiQ000597@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a criminal! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:25:38 EDT." <83db447a050702052533a3abd3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:42:12 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde says: >The others with prohibitions (including Maine) do so as a revenue issue. In Sweden, it's partly about government revenues, partly about the general level of drunkenness. Since it's indubitably legal to bring enormous quantities of cheap booze across the borders as long as you do it in person, the government is planning to reduce the alcohol tax, to persuade people to buy in this country. They're hoping to prevent private imports through the mail from other EU countries, but this is unlikely to succeed. >who prefers Beefeater That's pretty good, too. In fact I doubt that I would be able to tell one name brand of gin from another. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 07:42:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62CglJr016349 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:42:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:42:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF6A7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 8:42:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:42:47 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62CglQ0029024 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:42:47 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so400609wra for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.16 with SMTP id 16mr2302648wrc; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 05:42:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=huoNUEGsvVYQNj7l3qt7PBDTRG0dLa7e3COa65dNiP+oH/5tJmynBYhojqX2Ly4lfR+axGm7q9VmdRn6i/4cFhllW2wVXygo7nQOczI2qCTKV/z9DdcL1DgjdK7PI4moh7z5Jg4gKdFk+yDfyp7yE0h7W40LT3kInZAKwU/0Sxc= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050702054278b6ce47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:42:47 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: <200507020249.j622nb85030381@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507020249.j622nb85030381@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j62CglQ0029025 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Hope the weather is cleared up by now. It was a gorges day (hehehe), > right, Festlers? It sprinkled for about 20 minutes at midday. Hope > things settled down and all are enroute again! > Everyone is up and we're off to conquer a mountain and then we'll be enroute again. > What do Warren Beatty and Carly Simon have to do with the road to > central NY? bzzzt, wrong beau.... > clo > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 07:54:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62CsIJr017857 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:54:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:54:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006ABC9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 8:44:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:44:18 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62CiHhv029213 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:44:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so468286wra for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.11 with SMTP id e11mr2306721wra; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 05:44:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ih6JmbUD8yLo/7k5BaU/FxlxKYcGhKuS7JRX8SHUwb/KigI8RBSldqgvz9TjakqxcddFTwLHIx0dJg2C5YWTQO0JokFj+0pxLkOeXoSl3S3pB/4KS8ifzHJ84b5lhHDIcxGOxb4yUkINZr0GNxmDpqdTkyjzz60fNxzrpf8zg4Y= Message-ID: <44dce1c10507020544aca529c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:44:17 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050701200829.01b43778@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507020249.j622nb85030381@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050701200829.01b43778@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j62CiHhv029214 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Betty Clark wrote: > I don't think we got sprinkles in Ithaca. Wait. There were drops ever so > briefly. Didn't even have to turn on the wipers. > I've now added the Weather Channel to my personal list of propaganda sites. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 07:56:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62CuCJr018086 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:56:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:56:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF6ADF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 8:56:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:56:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62CuBqL030057 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:56:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so250946nzf for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.20 with SMTP id a20mr1013214nzc; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 05:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 05:56:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VYFxMeETKiFOvQdqJPYngJLq/Sz00iBSq49zlUqGSQdDBPHRjEpwJy4fW3KEPGmpPWZe398E8l3wqZT8TXxm3ljEvu0GV4MroTpvpAHdXWa+8zamBjF7u9UDOA9XSU5LIQIjPyNy64a8r7zVxcObl5IXru7oKJYnMVtpKCYwFfE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070205567e15587d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:56:11 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: As you may have figured out In-Reply-To: <200507020333.j623Xsdw002713@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507020333.j623Xsdw002713@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j62CuBqL030058 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >A job as a Nanook-wrangler. > > > >Karen > > You'da been great at it, too! Well, the problem is that Nanook doesn't need a wrangler. He's VERY social. He follows me around the house. When I stand and fold laundry, he is right there, ready to jump at the recalcitrant shirt and bite it into submission. Right now, he's off playing with his friend Oliver, the one he brought into the house and shared his dinner with last week. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 07:56:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62CubJr018106 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:56:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:56:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF6AA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 8:56:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:56:37 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62Cuar8030083 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:56:36 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF6AF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 8:56:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200507021256.j62Cuar8030083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:56:36 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:42:47 -0400, Terry Wild wrote: >On 7/1/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Hope the weather is cleared up by now. It was a gorges day (hehehe), >> right, Festlers? It sprinkled for about 20 minutes at midday. Hope >> things settled down and all are enroute again! >> > >Everyone is up and we're off to conquer a mountain and then we'll be >enroute again. > >> What do Warren Beatty and Carly Simon have to do with the road to >> central NY? > >bzzzt, wrong beau.... >> clo >> Yes, but that was 30 f'in years agao. I can't store her entire love life in my head forever. Some rooom is needed for more current scandals! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 08:11:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62DBnJr020709 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:11:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:11:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006ABE79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 9:01:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4585174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:01:48 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62D1mVI030662 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:01:48 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 75370981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:01:48 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050702060106.01dbfcd0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:01:46 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: <200507021256.j62Cuar8030083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507021256.j62Cuar8030083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A collage of falls at Buttermilk. http://bettyclark.blogspot.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 08:25:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62DPHJr022596 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:25:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:25:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF6B4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 9:25:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4585667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:25:17 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62DPGLT032535 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:25:16 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-133.gwi.net [216.195.163.133]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j62DPCFU083414 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:25:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702091714.01bf2d10@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:24:48 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Spam or scam or ?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lately it seems that I've been seeing a lot of ads---popups via IE, the advertisement box in sponsored Eudora---for PC tuneups and the like. The common message seems to be that my machine is probably working at less than optimum efficiency, I have things in there that need to be removed, my machine has 47 critical errors, etc. Anyone know whether these "services" do much more than allow another entity access to the machine? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 08:31:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62DVgJr023491 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:31:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:31:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006ABEAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 9:31:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4585776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:31:42 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62DVgjD000451 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:31:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so252475nzf for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.12 with SMTP id j12mr88271nzb; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 06:31:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jes59wHeRRY8T89NO30nixaOUTJWfpy2ckKGjJtYQibA5xf9TNeUldPIhWnF+K8jIYZO7/ZvduNaIJq5vdBop0Sjrby2CBtMCFOOiKc88Hmr3+fIHg9oXWGj4IbZjLAhq7pOj8L9Ut0qnehuzblNIv8cGKL/pJIK0FkudsCu6R8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507020631f2cb3c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:31:42 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spam or scam or ?? In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702091714.01bf2d10@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702091714.01bf2d10@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j62DVgjD000452 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Don't touch them, they spam scams. On 7/2/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Lately it seems that I've been seeing a lot of ads---popups via IE, the > advertisement box in sponsored Eudora---for PC tuneups and the like. The > common message seems to be that my machine is probably working at less than > optimum efficiency, I have things in there that need to be removed, my > machine has 47 critical errors, etc. > > Anyone know whether these "services" do much more than allow another entity > access to the machine? > > cwv > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 08:34:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62DY4Jr023695 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:34:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:34:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF6B4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 9:34:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4585816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:33:52 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62DXqrK000571 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:33:52 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B24DBE7FB7334 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:33:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001701c57f0a$a29c7410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: That time of year again Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:33:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: That time of year again > Happy FF everybody! Hope FingerFest is a grand success and all festers > have > a great time. > > I'm sorry I won't be able to make it. I'm a little travelled out. I was in > MN last week where > it was in the 90s. Great rollerblading trails though. I stayed away from > the > lutefisk. People > were nice but not noticeably so. One thing I noticed was the accent. > > I want to go in February next time ... > > -rashmi I have never noticed an accent in Minnesota. I guess that tells me I have it too? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 08:39:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62DdqJr024407 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:39:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:39:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF6B54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 9:39:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4585908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:39:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62DdpVs001059 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:39:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so252806nzf for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.10 with SMTP id j10mr19876nzj; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 06:39:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h1W2cflqbmgYvq9M/hfCDBqQBw5SWta+PldnCdyJmHZEHgsW7zpCNRkbZrbNprFwEr2xEY0UPcWeK/LWRRuQUV2W7p5o9bXrB/+CuHHfxfgrxdOeQIp35wyEd8EJhBYJfs2ZhoHaI54oHTC9U4Cr0bCU7Rs7b3zbKfGmY6WOAfs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050702063918997fba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:39:50 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: That time of year again In-Reply-To: <001701c57f0a$a29c7410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001701c57f0a$a29c7410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j62DdpVs001060 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/2/05, Doris Markland wrote: > I have never noticed an accent in Minnesota. > I guess that tells me I have it too? Not unless you're from there. It's pretty unmistakable--part of the development team I deal with is in Minnesota, and yesterday I was mimicking him after we got off the phone. It's the Garrison Keillor accent. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 08:49:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62DngJr025735 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:49:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:49:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF6B3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 9:49:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4586152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:49:41 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62DnfId001799 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:49:41 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-133.gwi.net [216.195.163.133]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j62DnaWK084802; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:49:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702094645.01c03e88@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:49:30 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Spam or scam or ?? In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70507020631f2cb3c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702091714.01bf2d10@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70507020631f2cb3c7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:31 AM 7/2/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >Don't touch them, they spam scams. I don't intend to. For my purposes, my machine chugs along nicely. I do get a few glitches in IE which I'm pretty much convinced are Microsoft's problems, not mine. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 08:55:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62DtOJr026297 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:55:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:55:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006ABED1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 9:55:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4586272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:55:22 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62DtM9w002258 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:55:22 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so253403nzf for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.60 with SMTP id t60mr1006567nzg; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 06:55:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NV1feW1dNdsPLD2me9VqVDDg8oTv4vJcEHHWqwhVeYpUjO9E8Q8UnmZy+WKASEbWpu2rwHJ3pKWssCq9md197eW85SaKoqUaNN+7M/McmHIsmeC4eilBCwJu94442xsdYfYVuPJlqQZhvvhDdixxIn4q8a2QNOA6ijn9r+v3B34= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070206555369c0a7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:55:21 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050702060106.01dbfcd0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507021256.j62Cuar8030083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050702060106.01dbfcd0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j62DtM9w002260 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I do hope you make an uncollaged version of at least a couple of those. On 7/2/05, Betty Clark wrote: > A collage of falls at Buttermilk. > > http://bettyclark.blogspot.com/ > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 08:56:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62DtrJr026331 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:55:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:55:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF6B4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 9:55:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4586280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:55:53 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62DtrFn002306 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:55:53 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so253431nzf for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr1021931nzt; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 06:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 06:55:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=i+aitkueQhiVwz696st4YGuvzc8yyVdBb50DdOfrr+fUg15hy/yfWpvxzGHUEjGLsZG6PIgabyfWWOGu9aMjaD6mvki3BwvPPcoJ8gzhndpJoSpvJ/qGTwSd4MGjKWRwfUUowIz/OEyz8gx/N6VY540TZnk7kovnZyI9okOx+tY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070206556061329@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:55:52 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spam or scam or ?? In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702094645.01c03e88@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702091714.01bf2d10@pop.gwi.net> <8ddfc8a70507020631f2cb3c7@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.1.2.0.20050702094645.01c03e88@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j62DtrFn002307 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Firefox, especially with the speeder-upper I posted, rocks. On 7/2/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 09:31 AM 7/2/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >Don't touch them, they spam scams. > > I don't intend to. For my purposes, my machine chugs along nicely. I do > get a few glitches in IE which I'm pretty much convinced are Microsoft's > problems, not mine. > > cwv > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 09:13:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62EDYJr029311 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:13:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:13:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF6B67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:03:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4586493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:03:33 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62E3X7d002873 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:03:33 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-133.gwi.net [216.195.163.133]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j62E3Uxc001190 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:03:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702095428.01bfd130@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 10:03:27 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Sere---on the loose Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The middle of this week, we finally gave in and allowed Sere outside sans harness and leash. She was a little hesitant at first, and clearly she is working on new, improved maps of her outdoor environment. This morning, she showed up on the back deck with her first capture---a snake. The snake was too small to do her any harm and she was more curious than killer, so she ended coming in the house and the snake, which had curled into a tight coil, escaped. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 10:42:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62FgsJr007608 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:42:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 10:42:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF6CB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:32:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4588594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:32:54 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62FWriQ009996 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:32:53 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E02D3BBE2C03 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:32:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c57f1b$43d05b20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001701c57f0a$a29c7410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050702063918997fba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: That time of year again Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:32:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Friend of Andy" To: Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:39 AM Subject: Re: That time of year again > On 7/2/05, Doris Markland wrote: >> I have never noticed an accent in Minnesota. >> I guess that tells me I have it too? > > Not unless you're from there. It's pretty unmistakable--part of the > development team I deal with is in Minnesota, and yesterday I was > mimicking him after we got off the phone. > > It's the Garrison Keillor accent. > > Karen I have lived in Minnesota. They don't all sound like that. Probably had to grow up there. I believe we think of the sound as "Scandinavian." - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 10:49:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62Fn0Jr008329 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:49:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 10:49:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF6D09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:48:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4589297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:49:00 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62FmxJN011655 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:48:59 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-133.gwi.net [216.195.163.133]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j62Fmr41090706; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:48:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702114656.01c094e0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 11:48:47 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: That time of year again In-Reply-To: <000601c57f1b$43d05b20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <001701c57f0a$a29c7410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050702063918997fba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c57f1b$43d05b20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:32 AM 7/2/2005, Doris Markland wrote: >I have lived in Minnesota. They don't all sound >like that. Probably had to grow up there. I believe >we think of the sound as "Scandinavian." That's it. However, there is a slight difference, mostly in the rhythm of speech, between the Minnesota Scandinavians and those from Wisconsin. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 10:52:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62FqKJr008669 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:52:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 10:52:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF6D0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:52:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4589450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:52:19 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62FqJph012130 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:52:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24510422 for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:05:07 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.72.80]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 2 Jul 2005 08:52:49 -0700 Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 09:52:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <235233450.20050702095228@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: That time of year again In-Reply-To: <000601c57f1b$43d05b20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> References: <001701c57f0a$a29c7410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050702063918997fba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c57f1b$43d05b20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 246, in=103101, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/2/2005, 9:32 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> I have lived in Minnesota. They don't all sound DM> like that. Probably had to grow up there. I believe DM> we think of the sound as "Scandinavian." I spent years in MN as well. And though WE might think of it as Scandinavian, those from the various groups, and some from outside of them, will easily distinguish between Norwegian, Swedish, and Finnish accents/speech patterns. And no, these aren't new immigrants, but descendants of those who arrived a century or more ago. And of course each of those groups has plenty of jokes and barbs at the expense of both of the others. Some of them are the ones that can apply to any group, but many are specific to the other group being insulted or joked about. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 11:25:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62GPbJr012607 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:25:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 11:25:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF6D31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:05:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4589772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:05:36 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62G5aDk013278 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:05:36 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 98BA08FC42F33 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:05:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c57f1f$d5a0b500$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001701c57f0a$a29c7410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a7050702063918997fba@mail.gmail.com> <000601c57f1b$43d05b20$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <235233450.20050702095228@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: That time of year again Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:05:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: Re: That time of year again > 7/2/2005, 9:32 AM, Doris Markland wrote: > DM> I have lived in Minnesota. They don't all sound > DM> like that. Probably had to grow up there. I believe > DM> we think of the sound as "Scandinavian." > > I spent years in MN as well. And though WE might think of it as > Scandinavian, those from the various groups, and some from outside of > them, will easily distinguish between Norwegian, Swedish, and Finnish > accents/speech patterns. And no, these aren't new immigrants, but > descendants of those who arrived a century or more ago. And of course > each of those groups has plenty of jokes and barbs at the expense of > both of the others. Some of them are the ones that can apply to any > group, but many are specific to the other group being insulted or > joked about. > Yes. Exactly so. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 13:37:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62IbEJr029730 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 13:37:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 13:37:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF7102@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:37:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4597967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:37:14 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62Ib9Uc027267 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:37:09 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF7150@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:37:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200507021837.j62Ib9Uc027267@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:37:09 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Sere---on the loose To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:03:27 -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >The middle of this week, we finally gave in and allowed Sere outside sans >harness and leash. She was a little hesitant at first, and clearly she is >working on new, improved maps of her outdoor environment. This morning, >she showed up on the back deck with her first capture---a snake. The snake >was too small to do her any harm and she was more curious than killer, so >she ended coming in the house and the snake, which had curled into a tight >coil, escaped. > >cwv So you have a snake loose indoors? I'm sure it would be very exciting to be your houseguest just now. I'm entertaining myself with tales of opening a drawer, a closet door, the shower curtain, and being surprised... What fun! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 14:25:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62JPSJr003729 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:25:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:25:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF723B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:25:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4599839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:25:27 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62JPRNZ031371 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:25:27 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-133.gwi.net [216.195.163.133]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j62JPLYx018253; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:25:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702151105.01c00658@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 15:12:25 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Sere---on the loose In-Reply-To: <200507021837.j62Ib9Uc027267@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507021837.j62Ib9Uc027267@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:37 PM 7/2/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >So you have a snake loose indoors? I'm sure it would be very exciting >to be your houseguest just now. I'm entertaining myself with tales of >opening a drawer, a closet door, the shower curtain, and being surprised... No, the snake was coiled up outside of the back door, so after Sere came inside, the snake left. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 14:36:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62JaoJr005775 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:36:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:36:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF7226@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:33:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4600286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:33:20 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62JXKxM031958 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:33:20 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C0C2D1091FC8 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:33:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c57f3c$da53fdb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200507021837.j62Ib9Uc027267@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Sere---on the loose Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:32:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "bonniemaev" To: Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Sere---on the loose > > So you have a snake loose indoors? I'm sure it would be very exciting > to be your houseguest just now. I'm entertaining myself with tales of > opening a drawer, a closet door, the shower curtain, and being > surprised... > What fun! --clo > No, she didn't get it into the house. The door was closed against such mischief. She brought it up on the back deck and played it with it there. -- --bonniev Someone just told me this morning about pulling weeds in her garden and coming up with a small snake in her hand instead of a weed. Eek! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 14:36:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62JaoJr005773 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:36:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:36:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF7248@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:26:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4599949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:26:50 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62JQoH0031575 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:26:50 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so433232wra for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.2.54 with SMTP id 54mr2505794wrb; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:26:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aIBFgx+Zh8ELWXOjkvzoge3r4WuVLsle5xcoakZCB9p4DTG4NZ6c1mN+9frryyz6GHZ5YXzpO4LJ6g7/ayF8qAagVRLPRs5VnL/YFUQJFsnjseRMHWeTGP6EFrfL85Thtx6cN9yH501kylItPKrkQfoe+OUxkee9HJmPanHD8XY= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:26:49 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sere---on the loose In-Reply-To: <200507021837.j62Ib9Uc027267@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200507021837.j62Ib9Uc027267@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j62JaoJr005773 > > So you have a snake loose indoors? I'm sure it would be very exciting > to be your houseguest just now. I'm entertaining myself with tales of > opening a drawer, a closet door, the shower curtain, and being > surprised... > What fun! --clo > No, she didn't get it into the house. The door was closed against such mischief. She brought it up on the back deck and played it with it there. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 14:46:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62Jk2Jr006607 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:46:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:46:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF7272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:46:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4600880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:46:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62Jk1SR000746 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:46:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so487484wra for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.33.70 with SMTP id g70mr2629098wrg; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:46:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=O8BgOTLNaZMzv0QLBZDy8VuwnAkFVJVMPtrEqE3HkY8jLrM0XBVXQLOHiAPQeZORFkvHMlshaBSjYd7/HyhgmUgh+L3k5wSfjsSJno1a9VriGnNz+B4OJxF1/ng/gh8plleLGglCV/esI5ZVzbc9vjwV0vloa4CdixwMYcJz5bM= Message-ID: <83db447a050702124676cb8c39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:46:01 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sere---on the loose In-Reply-To: <000a01c57f3c$da53fdb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200507021837.j62Ib9Uc027267@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000a01c57f3c$da53fdb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j62Jk2Jr006607 On 7/2/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > > Someone just told me this morning about pulling > weeds in her garden and coming up with a small snake > in her hand instead of a weed. Eek! Just imagine how the poor snake felt. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 14:55:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62JswJr007816 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:54:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:55:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF7305@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:54:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4601395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:54:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62Jsvva001533 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:54:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so268580nzf for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.60 with SMTP id t60mr1041293nzg; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:54:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=anhkeYDPTAnA9YtPZFyejNJdc95T2TM0ZQ3O3UedifUyvr5uyKBaMR8DV84O2VPNPGSwu+Ukw0MqpFndd6untKGAxJZoTX0kzCa6ND44n5QT2S7JiJaFGZfaeq6+ABG9eqk9URlclYPxt6p9ooCRjTibM132cgMK0IjDcSVF2Ow= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050702125445c6e80b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:54:57 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sere---on the loose In-Reply-To: <000a01c57f3c$da53fdb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507021837.j62Ib9Uc027267@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000a01c57f3c$da53fdb0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j62Jsvva001534 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/2/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Someone just told me this morning about pulling > weeds in her garden and coming up with a small snake > in her hand instead of a weed. Eek! I'd be delighted. Snakes are good. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 15:14:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j62KEAJr009936 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:14:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 15:14:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF73B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:14:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4602700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:14:10 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j62KE9Cx003364 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:14:09 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe3.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 75447143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 13:14:08 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050702131332.01ac7b80@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 13:14:05 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: the news from Ithaca In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070206555369c0a7@mail.gmail.com> References: <200507021256.j62Cuar8030083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050702060106.01dbfcd0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070206555369c0a7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, yeah, I have them all. You can click on the collage to make it a little bigger. At 06:55 AM 7/2/2005, you wrote: >I do hope you make an uncollaged version of at least a couple of those. > >On 7/2/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > A collage of falls at Buttermilk. > > > > http://bettyclark.blogspot.com/ > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 19:27:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j630RjJr003647 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 19:27:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:27:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF7810@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:27:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4611507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:27:45 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j630RgCN024713 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:27:45 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050703002742015006ipuhe>; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:27:42 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: I'm a criminal! Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:29:39 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <200507021242.j62CgCiQ000597@sm.luth.se> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >who prefers Beefeater > > That's pretty good, too. In fact I doubt that I would be able to > tell one name brand of gin from another. You both need to come to SnowBash, where you can help Bonnie and Clyde finally finish my bottle of Bombay Sapphire. :) --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 20:39:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j631dqJr011739 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:39:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 20:39:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF78EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:29:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4613792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:29:51 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j631TpDZ028501 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:29:51 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-167-217.gwi.net [216.195.167.217]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j631TjVB038161; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:29:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702212418.01c0e608@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:29:42 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Confession time, was: I'm a criminal! In-Reply-To: References: <200507021242.j62CgCiQ000597@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:29 PM 7/2/2005, Adam Hartfield wrote: >You both need to come to SnowBash, where you can help Bonnie and Clyde >finally finish my bottle of Bombay Sapphire. :) A couple of people---I don't remember who---were so kind as to give us Bombay Sapphire during Acadiafest. To tell the truth, neither of us like it all that much---it has a sweet, flowery taste that to us, simply isn't . So, we traded the Bombay Sapphire to Maureen at Mache in return for several Beefeater martinis. To those who were so kind, your gift did not go unappreciated---we enjoyed the in-trade martinis and others doubtlessly enjoyed the Bombay. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 23:10:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j634ADJr000031 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:10:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 23:10:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF7D4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:30:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4622243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:30:12 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j633U8vI004338 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:30:08 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF7D11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:30:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200507030330.j633U8vI004338@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:30:07 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Sere---on the loose To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:26:49 -0400, bonniemaev wrote: >> >> So you have a snake loose indoors? I'm sure it would be very exciting >> to be your houseguest just now. I'm entertaining myself with tales of >> opening a drawer, a closet door, the shower curtain, and being >> surprised... >> What fun! --clo >> >No, she didn't get it into the house. The door was closed against such >mischief. She brought it up on the back deck and played it with it there. > > >-- >--bonniev Diegenetically, however... We bought a collar for Kitling, who's been out more often this summer - it came with a bell. It's an interesting change to know where the cat is without hunting up and downstairs for him. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 23:10:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j634ADJr000032 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:10:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 23:10:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF7DB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:41:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4622911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:41:00 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j633eubE005504 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:40:56 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF7DA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:40:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200507030340.j633eubE005504@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:40:55 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: WHTUAF To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU After helping me shop for berries at the regional market this am, One - Natalie went by land, while Two - Betty and Larry went by sea. Er, lake. We made definite plans to meet at the Microtel for Happy Hour, followed by a fancy dinner. Naturally, that couldn't happen! Fortunately, the Wilds appeared just at the right time, so we adjourned to the porch (a larger space) to the added company. The Wild children are delightful, as always, and Terry and Alan were fun as well. And just at the right moment, up drove the Ice Cream truck! This occasioned conversation about the alarming blue food trend in the American diet. Dinner plans were gladly scrapped in favor of further phatic drivel, but eventually we lost our new additions, who continued on to rendevous with family. We walked down to the Westcott Nation, where we enjoyed an impromptu meal at a local Dominican restaurant. Empanadas were a hit. We're all quite tired, but it was another gorgeous day. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 2 23:10:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j634ADJr000033 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:10:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 23:10:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF7DD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:49:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4623128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:49:16 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j633nGYt005917 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:49:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so283382nzf for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 20:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.4 with SMTP id q4mr1080916nzq; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 20:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:49:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z4iNn7+yhvTlvT5gi+ucNH6brVBtseT5Wsvs+Hv1CYcK2Ls7OCPvgC1hWaC5ZP/aV0C5lq665chC0RpgHizmI6arWPJyVinMgs/dms/JnH8U/croj535pCu+Xww508h3qcnb+jHkLSxffQ7t3ifoMb2xLsJ8pGsuE+60eUrUmkI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507022049338cceea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 22:49:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sere---on the loose In-Reply-To: <200507030330.j633U8vI004338@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507030330.j633U8vI004338@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j633nGYt005918 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/2/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > We bought a collar for Kitling, who's been out more often > this summer - it came with a bell. It's an interesting > change to know where the cat is without hunting up and > downstairs for him. Nanook's collar has his rabies tag and a tag saying he's chipped on it, which essentially bells him. It IS nice to know where he is. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 03:45:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j638iuJr000396 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 03:45:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:45:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AD802@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 4:44:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4647902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 04:44:55 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j638itGB030033 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 04:44:55 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so517473wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.77.15 with SMTP id z15mr1423074wra; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.126.9 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:44:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZrE1ThiCRbLQuGXJkJQzlyZBHrnwuY1ZlOR8+hWMvkRJRjI/R/8EbC+RrmUlsic9fPjROl8lJAF6eoSTSR5jSVoxBA825DNO5UkjKGqvAeloQAN3SlyoeSFbERRQhqlEjwYEqeyUj+4D72cB+JM79tqitq40RSr+yBfJnhE/X+c= Message-ID: <8865866a05070301442052bbe2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:44:55 +0200 From: Marcia Franzen Reply-To: Marcia Franzen To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Confession time, was: I'm a criminal! In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702212418.01c0e608@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507021242.j62CgCiQ000597@sm.luth.se> <6.2.1.2.0.20050702212418.01c0e608@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j638itGB030034 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A couple of people---I don't remember who---were so kind as to give us > Bombay Sapphire during Acadiafest. To tell the truth, neither of us like > it all that much---it has a sweet, flowery taste that to us, simply isn't > . So, we traded the Bombay Sapphire to Maureen at Mache in return for > several Beefeater martinis. > > To those who were so kind, your gift did not go unappreciated---we enjoyed > the in-trade martinis and others doubtlessly enjoyed the Bombay. > > cwv > That is a little funny because it was you and Bonnie who taught me to drink gin and tonic. Maybe I'll order Beefeater next time. It is slightly cheaper and then I can do a taste test. Marcia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 07:35:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63CZLJr001317 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:35:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 07:35:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF9091@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 8:29:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4584262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:29:32 -0400 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (archive.msstate.edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63CJW8E001427 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:19:32 -0400 Received: from archive.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.13.1/8.12.8/MsState-Archive/1.10) with ESMTP; id j63CJVdR020094 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:19:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by archive.msstate.edu (8.13.1/8.12.7/Submit) id j63CJVEV020093 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:19:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:19:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Mutant City Message-Id: <200507031219.j63CJVEV020093@archive.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Pics Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fest pics: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Fingerfest/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 07:35:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63CZLJr001316 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:35:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 07:35:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF9051@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 8:15:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4583922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:15:20 -0400 Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63C5Kpp000551 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:05:20 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([80.194.30.125]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:06:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1074843088.20050701170240@gailndan.com> References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> <1074843088.20050701170240@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5E550D42-C2DC-4754-BDF7-3A4D5F3D7F97@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roy Jaques Subject: Re: WHTMTD Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:06:55 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2005 12:06:02.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[95006E20:01C57FC7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 2 Jul 2005, at 00:02, Dan Lester wrote: > 7/1/2005, 1:02 PM, Roy Jaques wrote: > > RJ> or maybe being the French flag it could be "tricolore". Which is > RJ> pronounced as ... > >>> >>> dan >>> > > Pronounced as what? What the guy said on TV? Or yet something > different. The speaker was British, but the race of course was in > France. Close to what you heard on the TV. Strange thing is we use the same word for the Irish flag as well. A lot of things tend to retain their French names especially food related items such as baguettes, aubergines, courgettes and bain- marie. Our road sign doesn't say "Dead End" but "Cul-de-Sac" (if it does have a description under it). It's normal, but I understand why it sounds odd if you're not used to it. > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 07:36:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63CasJr001448 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:36:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 07:36:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF90AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 8:36:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4585038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:36:53 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63CarMi002462 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:36:53 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:36:53 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:36:17 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Pics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Nice I LOVE the picture of Terry with Lill, Will and Edward ! BrP >>> maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU 07/03/05 8:19 AM >>> Fest pics: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Fingerfest/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 08:20:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63DKBJr007910 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:20:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:20:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF9128@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 9:20:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4586646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:20:11 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63DKBfX006166 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:20:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so550958wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 06:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.84.19 with SMTP id h19mr3038403wrb; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 06:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 06:20:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bPXgbzIOd16RRrnddUSxY/dh0SkxuS0sCGlsMhdfFi/c9k3H9eHBJS//gpbrTs+gzfY2x6XdRfz9/3VML+BfnfCNKGiyeOpap3xw8gtwGmoW0QJM3o4amE/JWPGeMPro/JqTVTwm8Wvjk5MYEeULJynPb0+npDdh9lF3cPm1OeQ= Message-ID: <83db447a05070306203c5918ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:20:10 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pics In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j63DKBJr007910 On 7/3/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Nice > > I LOVE the picture of Terry with Lill, Will and Edward ! Yes, Lill and those eyes... Nice looking kid, Paul. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 09:55:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63EtKJr018616 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:55:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:55:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF9335@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 10:55:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4590204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:55:19 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63EsrxP013088 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:54:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF9321@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 10:54:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200507031454.j63EsrxP013088@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:54:52 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Pics To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:20:10 -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >On 7/3/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> >> Nice >> >> I LOVE the picture of Terry with Lill, Will and Edward ! > > Yes, Lill and those eyes... > Nice looking kid, Paul. > cwv I agree - Great pictures of Paul and Brian as well. For those not in the know, the tall skinny guy hiding behind a cat is my son, Aaron. I just heard from Joan, who's one her way: the Main Event is shaping up nicely for mid-afternoon (after the non-Wilds return from the zoo). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 11:37:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63GbQJr030187 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:37:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 11:37:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF94A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 12:37:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4593658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:37:26 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63GbPHn019887 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:37:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7229911B for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:37:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22022-03 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:37:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B1D99123 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:37:23 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42C81443.7010105@akad.ee> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:37:23 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: sup? References: <200507010457.j614vNAq021692@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42C572AB.5000002@akad.ee> <1536329163.20050701170112@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1536329163.20050701170112@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.536 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Normally EVERYTHING that happens at a fest gets reported one way or >another. I'm still waiting for the wedding photos. > > Well, well, I can see a subject heading Pics -- but these are not probably what we are waiting here. I'll try to read through today's post, and then go nomail again. Off at 6.30 a.m. tomorrow, then to Helsinki from Tallinn at 10.00, from there to Turku, and then to Finnish islands. The day after tomorrow we'll be in Marienhamn and give a concert in the church. The suitcase is not packed yet -- just came from the last rehearsal. When I come back next week-end there'll certainly be more pics to be seen about the Festlers. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 12:14:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63HEDJr001328 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:14:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 12:14:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AE1DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 13:04:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4595175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:04:12 -0400 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63H4CRJ021917 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:04:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EDF993E8 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:04:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25780-05 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:04:10 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (akadeemia-gw.akad.ee [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7899899565 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:52:49 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42C817E1.8040000@akad.ee> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:52:49 +0300 From: Kristin Sarv User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pics References: <200507031219.j63CJVEV020093@archive.msstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200507031219.j63CJVEV020093@archive.msstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.537 tagged_above=-999 required=3 tests=AWL, BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mutant City wrote: >Fest pics: >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Fingerfest/ > Fun! One day I'll win a lottery jackpot and attend a fest as well. (Yes, I fell into the trap of a lottery recently and use the same combination of figures each week, so, watch out! My millions are on their way.) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 13:31:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63IV5Jr009046 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:31:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:31:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AE25C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 14:31:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4598153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:31:05 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63IV5If029758 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:31:05 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j63IV3RZ016308 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:31:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42C82EEE.2000505@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:31:10 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pics References: <200507031219.j63CJVEV020093@archive.msstate.edu> <42C817E1.8040000@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <42C817E1.8040000@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Who are the people in http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/Fingerfest/6.jpg ? -a From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 13:36:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63IabJr009603 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:36:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:36:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF974D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 14:36:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4598418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:36:37 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63Iaa3f030301 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:36:36 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 117137176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 11:36:35 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050703113540.01b08d60@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 11:36:33 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Pics In-Reply-To: <42C82EEE.2000505@gmail.com> References: <200507031219.j63CJVEV020093@archive.msstate.edu> <42C817E1.8040000@akad.ee> <42C82EEE.2000505@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:31 AM 7/3/2005, you wrote: >Who are the people in >http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/Fingerfest/6.jpg ? > >-a Paul, Carolyn (clo), and Paul's son, Brian. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 13:39:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63IdIJr009936 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:39:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:39:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AE270@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 14:39:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4598523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:39:17 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63IdHeQ030493 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:39:17 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050703183917014005og8re>; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:39:17 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Pics Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:41:13 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42C82EEE.2000505@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Who are the people in > http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/Fingerfest/6.jpg ? > > -a Paul, Carolyn, and Paul's son Brian, I believe. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 14:31:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63JVXJr015774 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:31:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:31:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE1C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 15:31:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4599685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:31:32 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63JVVRY002147 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:31:32 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j63JVURW032529 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:31:30 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j63JVUaC032527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:31:30 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:31:30 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pics Message-ID: <20050703193130.GA32455@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200507031219.j63CJVEV020093@archive.msstate.edu> <42C817E1.8040000@akad.ee> <42C82EEE.2000505@gmail.com> <6.1.1.1.2.20050703113540.01b08d60@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050703113540.01b08d60@calmail.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Paul, Carolyn (clo), and Paul's son, Brian. Brian looks a lot older than when he was here. And I don't think it's just the beard. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 14:46:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63JjsJr017292 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:45:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:45:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FF9838@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 15:45:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4600079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:45:54 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63JjrUp003306 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:45:53 -0400 Received: from gateway_system.mchsi.com (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050703194553m9100nh35je>; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:45:53 +0000 Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050703144403.01c40d30@mail.mchsi.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:45:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: David Guy Fetzer Subject: Re: Confession time, was: I'm a criminal! In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050702212418.01c0e608@pop.gwi.net> References: <200507021242.j62CgCiQ000597@sm.luth.se> <6.2.1.2.0.20050702212418.01c0e608@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde: I'd hold out for Tanqueray myself ;-) .Cheers, Dave At 08:29 PM 7/2/2005, you wrote: >At 08:29 PM 7/2/2005, Adam Hartfield wrote: > >>You both need to come to SnowBash, where you can help Bonnie and Clyde >>finally finish my bottle of Bombay Sapphire. :) > >A couple of people---I don't remember who---were so kind as to give us >Bombay Sapphire during Acadiafest. To tell the truth, neither of us like >it all that much---it has a sweet, flowery taste that to us, simply isn't >. So, we traded the Bombay Sapphire to Maureen at Mache in return for >several Beefeater martinis. > >To those who were so kind, your gift did not go unappreciated---we enjoyed >the in-trade martinis and others doubtlessly enjoyed the Bombay. > >cwv Cheers, Dave From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 14:57:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63JvkJr018733 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:57:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:57:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE1FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 15:57:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4600315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:57:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63JvjGi004094 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:57:45 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so315231nzf for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 12:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.4 with SMTP id q4mr1160792nzq; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 12:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:57:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JuiDdvDi80mDuIKd15Bv9sSmRZRLvV/u9fkAhqBNEHnVPoDvmgbgxUk4PuF5DH5iSoHtyh0LR9OoiW8hfFBEzvUwTnUfcgpg+5vtRapdxt9ECDA/njjnsBMqRmWykDFz6H/ujP8EjTtfsoZ5jEY+HaqOr6BMiKh7+xTAur4mXSs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050703125764e81392@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:57:45 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pics In-Reply-To: <20050703193130.GA32455@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507031219.j63CJVEV020093@archive.msstate.edu> <42C817E1.8040000@akad.ee> <42C82EEE.2000505@gmail.com> <6.1.1.1.2.20050703113540.01b08d60@calmail.berkeley.edu> <20050703193130.GA32455@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j63JvjGi004095 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/3/05, steph wrote: > Brian looks a lot older than when he was here. And I don't think it's > just the beard. I think he's had a lot of experiences in the past year and a half that have matured him. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 16:24:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63LO8Jr029079 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:24:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:24:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AE525@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 17:24:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4604651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:24:08 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63LO7j4012525 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:24:07 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-145.gwi.net [216.195.163.145]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j63LO18g093100; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:24:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050703172104.01c084b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:24:00 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Confession time, was: I'm a criminal! In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.0.20050703144403.01c40d30@mail.mchsi.com> References: <200507021242.j62CgCiQ000597@sm.luth.se> <6.2.1.2.0.20050702212418.01c0e608@pop.gwi.net> <6.2.3.4.0.20050703144403.01c40d30@mail.mchsi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:45 PM 7/3/2005, David Guy Fetzer wrote: > Clyde: > >I'd hold out for Tanqueray myself ;-) A friend and fellow rowing referee of mine prefers Tanqueray. I think that Tanqueray and Beefeater are closer in aroma and taste to each other than either is to Bombay in any of its forms. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 17:40:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63Me9Jr003728 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:40:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:40:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AE5E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 18:30:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4606609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:30:08 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63MU4Mq017237 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:30:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE429@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 18:30:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200507032230.j63MU4Mq017237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:30:04 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Pics To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:31:10 -0500, Anne Toal wrote: >Who are the people in >http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/Fingerfest/6.jpg ? > >-a BrP, clo, and Paul's son Brian (1/3 of Inertia) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 17:48:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63MlvJr004500 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:47:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:48:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE446@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 18:47:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4606956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:47:57 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63Mlvrk018363 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:47:57 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so321743nzf for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.11 with SMTP id x11mr1076618nzx; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:47:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FFx49GNXWvFYxwnFN4EA6xW6J2E0dOLhDGGpFvvCB9YMtDymLlBdVeehBUSQBOwCpIDFETaJgglbtcLQCdj9N3EbUcJHySLYafT+sXS09KwZzjgW1/NEv8nCKUGrvK6v4DA4h5kYnNPeHsC0J/+GPtwue61TfKwE/+VPepo6XvI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050703154732738771@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:47:56 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pics In-Reply-To: <200507032230.j63MU4Mq017237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507032230.j63MU4Mq017237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j63Mlvrk018364 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/3/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:31:10 -0500, Anne Toal wrote: > > >Who are the people in > >http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/Fingerfest/6.jpg ? > > > >-a > > BrP, clo, and Paul's son Brian (1/3 of Inertia) Who/where is the 3rd? Karen who knows that Carolyn's daughter is the 2/3 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 17:48:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63MmbJr004583 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:48:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:48:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AE550@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 18:48:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4606964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:48:36 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [133.31.29.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63MmZJ8018422 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:48:36 -0400 Received: from kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j63MmWnH005685 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:48:32 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.66]) by kagurmail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/DMZ) with ESMTP id j63MmWMj005680 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:48:32 +0900 Received: from kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j63MmViR031139 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:48:31 +0900 Received: from mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.8.6]) by kagurvirus.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.13.3/8.13.3/IN) with ESMTP id j63MmVdF031134 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:48:31 +0900 Received: from neccomputer (kagurdhcp016098.cr.kagu.tus.ac.jp [10.33.16.98]) by mail.rs.kagu.tus.ac.jp (8.12.10/8.13.3/MailHub) with SMTP id j63MmT2U042662 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:48:30 +0900 Message-ID: <01f001c58021$4b368ef0$6210210a@neccomputer> From: "Tanaka Akio" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Gleanings(3) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:48:08 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 1) Pancho Villa raid on Columbus 2) Pershing 3) Microtel 4) LaQuinta 5) Garrison Keillor accent Tanaka Akio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 17:49:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63MnIJr004647 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:49:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:49:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE447@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 18:49:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4606971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:49:18 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63MnBv8018484 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:49:11 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF9B38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 18:49:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200507032249.j63MnBv8018484@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:49:10 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Hello from the Main Event! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We're assembled on the porch, just finishing The Big Meal, and about to head out for Strawberry Short@the Castle. I won't say anything so others can say hello... HELLO! Betty just walked in and said -- I've forgotten now, and she's out on the porch. Here she is again -- 13 adults, 4 children -- not counting the Wilds, who aren't here today because of a family conflict. Ha. I should leave it at that and let y'all imagine that the Wilds are duking it out. But what I meant is that they're at a cousin's house right now eating pig. Aaron just walked up and said, "What?" Ok, somebody else's turn now... That was Natalie. I really like salt potatoes. The attending FOWL's are so much fun and have made the event very special. I'm concerned that Paul has just walked by with all the strawberries. I need to stop him. Betty Joan here ... drove in from Boston just today ... definitely worth the trip ... the salt potatoes were definitely a revelation as were the FOWLs ... but we missed the Wilds as Edward was running a fever ... next is 'Strawberry Shortcastle' which I had thought was the desert location, but it now appears it is BrP's desert construction involving strawberrries, chocolate & a castle (at the very least) .... So that's the story. The FOWLs have mostly departed, and we're slowly gathering to wend out way to the castle. Missed you all - see you at the next Fest! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 17:58:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63MwDJr006288 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:58:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:58:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE466@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 18:58:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4607300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:58:13 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63MwC5N019224 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:58:12 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so322125nzf for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.20 with SMTP id a20mr1184254nzc; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:58:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r01rj+Zr/Y9eBnEWjqBhy5FZ0MHECJuNVyRWPwTEZ5ujH/3bszCuXV76YlxwQsgqlk21b2iiQPuSQsRYE1ktRY6dBhG8l3rojMzh9TKCBXp9HS8UyTw8ScDz4FDudlI8BCEl5YBZR+OlX6MhsS1ZH7YLUU8pXGpHMdlRog3qFG8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050703155837da0cb2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:58:12 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gleanings(3) In-Reply-To: <01f001c58021$4b368ef0$6210210a@neccomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01f001c58021$4b368ef0$6210210a@neccomputer> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j63MwD5N019225 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Microtel and LaQuinta are both hotel chains. Garrison Keillor is a radio personality and storyteller from Minnnesota. Pershing was a WWII general--I don't remember the context. On 7/3/05, Tanaka Akio wrote: > 1) Pancho Villa raid on Columbus > > 2) Pershing > > 3) Microtel > > 4) LaQuinta > > 5) Garrison Keillor accent > > > > Tanaka Akio > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 18:39:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j63NdVJr011509 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:39:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:39:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE4AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 19:29:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4608196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:29:30 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j63NTUUG021817 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:29:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050703232929014004herae>; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:29:29 +0000 Message-ID: <42C874D8.4040009@istori.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:29:28 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gleanings(3) References: <01f001c58021$4b368ef0$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a7050703155837da0cb2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050703155837da0cb2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Pershing was a WWII general--I don't remember the context. This covers Pershing's expedition in retaliation for Pancho Villa's raid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition Since I'm forty-something, "Pershing" also conjurs up "Pershing missiles," missile silos, cold war and the '60s-'70s worries of nuclear annihilation. Here's a page about the Pershing II and its Soviet counterpart, the SS-20: http://www.nasm.si.edu/exhibitions/gal100/inf.html Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 19:35:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j640YwJr017482 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:34:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:35:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE553@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 20:34:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4609853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:34:58 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j640Yvow026214 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:34:57 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24660031 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:35:13 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.72.80]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:35:28 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:35:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1891422401.20050703183506@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: WHTMTD In-Reply-To: <5E550D42-C2DC-4754-BDF7-3A4D5F3D7F97@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> <1074843088.20050701170240@gailndan.com> <5E550D42-C2DC-4754-BDF7-3A4D5F3D7F97@blueyonder.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 245, in=89049, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/3/2005, 6:06 AM, Roy Jaques wrote: RJ> Close to what you heard on the TV. Strange thing is RJ> we use the same RJ> word for the Irish flag as well. You mean sort of like "trickler" is how y'all pronounce it too? It wasn't just this one guy? No complaint, just want to be sure I'm getting the right picture/audio. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 19:48:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j640mSJr019000 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:48:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:48:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF9CAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 20:38:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4609930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:38:27 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j640cQ92026447 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:38:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24423802 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:04:29 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([24.117.72.80]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:38:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:38:36 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <353149982.20050703183836@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Gleanings(3) In-Reply-To: <42C874D8.4040009@istori.com> References: <01f001c58021$4b368ef0$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a7050703155837da0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <42C874D8.4040009@istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 247, in=90701, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/3/2005, 5:29 PM, Peter Kaminski wrote: PK> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition PK> Since I'm forty-something, "Pershing" also conjurs PK> up "Pershing PK> missiles," missile silos, And for we older folks it reminds us of Pershing Tanks in WWII. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 19:52:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j640qrJr019363 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:52:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:52:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AE675@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 20:52:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4610124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:52:53 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j640qqHK027161 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:52:52 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so583300wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.77.15 with SMTP id z15mr1848565wra; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:52:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RvY09XiKhxeT0stVQIUPpkiQ+k/M+gTy9JnhxLxe9IJo3d/P4Rgi2T/JUZYltzr6vIWEq4znvTHofZ0AHT3HIPYEqnOtXI6CoZhhcWXbvVR2y4qVCfwgMlgF+KL9FqWZvaB0ytCDpdtFjlnZZwwWxV1rDMQ2ZVIxrvg2vH8aOc4= Message-ID: <83db447a050703175260648cb6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:52:52 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: words-l Subject: a glorious third Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j640qrJr019363 Having the Fourth fall on a Monday necessitated some changes in our routine. After the usual Sunday breakfast over the papers, I went to Ellsworth to do the grocery shopping. This is because tomorrow (my usual shopping day) we will stroll into the village to watch the parade (and admire the undamaged flowers at the Opera House), then wander over to the Primrose Inn for their July 4 cookout and social. Then Tuesday we will celebrate Bonnie's 60th---breakfast at the Bar Harbor Club, dinner at Red Sky. Elizabeth (maker of the best martinis anywhere) has promised a martini with a candle in it. We will see whether that was a joke. One of the supermarkets was having specials on fresh corn and fresh Atlantic salmon, so that was our dinner---corn on the cob, salmon medallions, and asparagus---all from the grill. After dinner, I repaired to the deck. Beautiful, clear skies and about 65F. The NNW breezes of the past day or so have blown away the ozone contributions of our neighbors to the west and southwest. In the space of about 20 minutes, I counted nine commercial flights, all headed within a few degrees of each other on a general NNE vector---Europe. The planes were silver in the sun (which was below the ridge line here). That they were travelling at different altitudes was clear from the varying extents of contrails. The female hummingbird was active, looping around and occasionally stopping to re-fuel---lots of insects to chase down. I'm beginning to wonder whether she is a pioneer, or simply has not shared the information. I was struck with the notion of the wondrous miniature computer that a hummingbird must have. It is one thing to be able to hover and feed from a flower or feeder. It is something else again to stalk insects in three-dimensional space, at high speed, where the only mechanism of capture is a very thin tube extending about one-third of your body length from the middle of your skull. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 20:26:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j641QdJr022778 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:26:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:26:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE5A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 21:26:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4611163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:26:39 -0400 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j641Qc75030339 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:26:38 -0400 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j641Q5PT009709 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:26:07 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:30:10 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Gleanings(3) Reply-to: mem@shaka.com Message-ID: <42C80482.20043.19D11C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <8ddfc8a7050703155837da0cb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <01f001c58021$4b368ef0$6210210a@neccomputer> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 3 Jul 2005 at 17:58, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Pershing was a WWII general--I don't remember the context. WWI From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 21:15:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j642FSJr027290 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:15:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:15:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE605@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 22:15:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4612318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:15:28 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j642FO72001286 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:15:24 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FF9E26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 22:15:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200507040215.j642FO72001286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:15:24 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Gleanings(3) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:58:12 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >Garrison Keillor is a radio personality and storyteller from Minnnesota. > Garrison Keillor's show "A Prairie Home Companion" pokes gentle humor at various genres of radio and dime novel entertainment from the past, small town life, and Scandanavian-American midwestern culture. It's the Scandanavian intonation patterns in some Minnesotan dialects that often marks Garrison Keillor's when he tells stories. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 21:16:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j642GKJr027393 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:16:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:16:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AE7C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 22:16:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4612326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:16:19 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j642GJTl001363 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:16:19 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so329583nzf for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.160.3 with SMTP id i3mr1166861nze; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:16:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MdzZd9akwa+9aJ5i+jtVVnTlVrBDMkmObcGpQFKsNUt9zfdTm+b9L7G7K0QlAaC2UvQGQBHMfWWqeiFApnHaUnFstwKOAUEqxeZUdfLfmZwJNqOnZh6YGwN0h5hAUmP/6yMZd3zTy4rxQeLEcsM9grEymNIqyeGShVPHyjafV6w= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507031916cef3421@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:16:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gleanings(3) In-Reply-To: <42C80482.20043.19D11C@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <01f001c58021$4b368ef0$6210210a@neccomputer> <8ddfc8a7050703155837da0cb2@mail.gmail.com> <42C80482.20043.19D11C@localhost> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j642GJTl001364 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/3/05, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 3 Jul 2005 at 17:58, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > Pershing was a WWII general--I don't remember the context. > > WWI You're right; sorry. I connect Pershing with my Dad, who fought in WWII. Brains are scary things. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 21:19:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j642JHJr027681 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:19:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:19:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AE7C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 22:19:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4612340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:19:16 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j642JBME001447 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:19:11 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF9DED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 22:19:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200507040219.j642JBME001447@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:19:10 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Morefest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, it's truly been a "3-finger salute" now. Not only have our visitors explored the Finger Lakes with frightening thoroughness, but we have had a tour of the Puppet and Mask museum and had our hands on actual puppets from all over the world. I can't imagine a more enjoyable holiday. Thanks, Festlers. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 21:19:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j642JVJr027703 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:19:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:19:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AE710@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 22:19:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4612344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:19:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j642JUpT001463 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:19:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so329724nzf for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.18 with SMTP id m18mr1177377nzb; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:19:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dlUn4C1t6dbf0GDdu2qOCh3HT6vpVKY59pc9x+96ckEpOf1K0e74efciaMGSDcqH0fbxH7BjgWZhShf2h6aA+HEP+w1TXXxTsMg9Q0D04IP6nxStyTCYVVtdexZ1Ee9LVgCvQVqjllXiAwXkmTFfUm8EzCok5TGACFIl3ly4aXE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070319195eff18e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:19:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMTD In-Reply-To: <1891422401.20050703183506@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506301720.j5UHKsSf008416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <781221907.20050630153019@gailndan.com> <1074843088.20050701170240@gailndan.com> <5E550D42-C2DC-4754-BDF7-3A4D5F3D7F97@blueyonder.co.uk> <1891422401.20050703183506@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j642JUpT001464 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You know, both M-W and AHD provide sound with their online dictionaries. Interestingly, AHD only lists the "try" version. On 7/3/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 7/3/2005, 6:06 AM, Roy Jaques wrote: > > RJ> Close to what you heard on the TV. Strange thing is > RJ> we use the same > RJ> word for the Irish flag as well. > > You mean sort of like "trickler" is how y'all pronounce it too? It > wasn't just this one guy? > > No complaint, just want to be sure I'm getting the right > picture/audio. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 21:54:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j642s4Jr032756 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:54:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:54:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AE760@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 22:54:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4613374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:53:59 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j642rwGd004448; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:53:59 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 118283247; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:53:58 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050703194531.01ab9a58@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:53:55 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: <200507040219.j642JBME001447@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507040219.j642JBME001447@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:19 PM 7/3/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Well, it's truly been a "3-finger salute" now. >Not only have our visitors explored the Finger Lakes >with frightening thoroughness, but we have had a tour >of the Puppet and Mask museum and had our hands on >actual puppets from all over the world. > >I can't imagine a more enjoyable holiday. Thanks, >Festlers. >clo Today was the best. Thanks clo, Vance, Paul, and tonight Vladimir! What a treat that was. We got Joan safely to the motel and everyone is exhausted after a full day. The food and drink throughout the fest has been spectacular but tonight Vance outdid himself. Nite! Tomorrow Larry and I are heading for Cooperstown for the day. We're taking Mikey with us. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 21:56:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j642uLJr000273 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:56:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:56:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AE775@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 22:56:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4613571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:56:20 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j642uKMX004658; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:56:20 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 118283483; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:56:19 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050703195454.01ade680@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:56:17 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050703194531.01ab9a58@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <200507040219.j642JBME001447@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050703194531.01ab9a58@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU P.S. And Paul's extra, extra treat-Strawberry Shortcastle!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 22:08:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6437vJr001624 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:07:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:08:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AE68B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 22:57:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4613846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:57:56 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j642vuN5004809 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:57:56 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so331485nzf for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr1212133nzc; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:57:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AL6VVVDu6S+UyRwx6w8881AZrBV2Ez+MXMmhoiRdAWniJZAvNrmKOf1tH45KhQ0xLGCZy9bO2f6U+5BAdLJMeHAGycfm0EsHk+/u8pJTxJOWC7iPTnMUKIFujd6AvVBAVl6pLPsUgIsX0OnQTBqSg42xQFs5RDIh0ybAovU5m2s= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507031957151acfff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:57:55 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20050703194531.01ab9a58@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507040219.j642JBME001447@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.1.1.1.2.20050703194531.01ab9a58@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j642vuN5004810 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/3/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Today was the best. Thanks clo, Vance, Paul, and tonight Vladimir! What a > treat that was. Vova! Horse-whispering Siberian gypsy puppeteer extraordinaire! > Nite! Tomorrow Larry and I are heading for Cooperstown for the day. We're > taking Mikey with us. Good for you. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 22:13:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j643DjJr002600 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:13:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:13:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FF9FCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 23:03:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4616273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:03:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6433gQ7006118 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:03:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so331728nzf for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.60 with SMTP id t60mr1190073nzg; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:03:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SmDjulyIg9RD0G4g2g26Ic6Vm+3bWDgAkBebXJ7/PZrklTJRDKMnW9yQ7ppBfzwBPgBs0hXmfZ2epjFH7CKO4ZU/hrX+cqf5tNRLZg6rEk+QU148vS1UFF82Bi8sNEoJQP9GHtqcjGneeRDfY8t03A7xo5PCqhmSOVsEcxqr6is= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050703200344b9e8e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:03:42 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: For the list Texans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j6433hQ7006124 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.birdseyeviews.org/zoom.php?city=Austin&year=1873&extra_info= Bird's eye views of Texas. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 22:50:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j643oBJr008128 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:50:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:50:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AE9B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 23:50:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4618844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:50:11 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j643o73v009592 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:50:07 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FFA115@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Jul 2005 23:50:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200507040350.j643o73v009592@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:50:07 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Morefest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:57:55 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 7/3/05, Betty Clark wrote: >> Today was the best. Thanks clo, Vance, Paul, and tonight Vladimir! What a >> treat that was. > >Vova! Horse-whispering Siberian gypsy puppeteer extraordinaire! > >> Nite! Tomorrow Larry and I are heading for Cooperstown for the day. We're >> taking Mikey with us. > >Good for you. > >Karen And we wished Doris Happy Birthday! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 23:22:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j644MbJr011256 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:22:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:22:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AEB75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 0:12:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4621259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:12:36 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j644CZ8e012291 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:12:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so334867nzf for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr1218470nzc; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:12:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NELsbsL0MEAe7OOT4jybtqNJEB5cwOxcWpGoG1Uw2Fw6ZSh2CKzC6M636OS3B6M5gMZl/EkXKHmyihwPMRyYP0Z6Jvohs4uv7SCjwG6ZvST9/WzqvcNy3rDsvkYG/b8KBlk8JyEetncHe/fP2yYlOWXDdpvkXHTdV0eGGj3UX14= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070321121f23737f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:12:35 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: <200507040350.j643o73v009592@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507040350.j643o73v009592@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j644CZ8e012292 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I heard. I heard that Brandon and his mom were there, too! I love that kid. Does Natalie still think he looks like Paul? Karen On 7/3/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:57:55 -0500, A Friend of Andy > wrote: > > >On 7/3/05, Betty Clark wrote: > >> Today was the best. Thanks clo, Vance, Paul, and tonight Vladimir! What > a > >> treat that was. > > > >Vova! Horse-whispering Siberian gypsy puppeteer extraordinaire! > > > >> Nite! Tomorrow Larry and I are heading for Cooperstown for the day. > We're > >> taking Mikey with us. > > > >Good for you. > > > >Karen > > And we wished Doris Happy Birthday! > clo > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 23:51:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j644pFJr015714 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:51:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:51:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FFA2D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 0:32:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4621638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:32:39 -0400 Received: from web51305.mail.yahoo.com (web51305.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j644Wcpq013648 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:32:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 21283 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jul 2005 04:32:38 -0000 Received: from [66.82.9.49] by web51305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:32:38 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lSX2GXYf4TPYgGrKgaVSsEjI7iRCfxaHuBna+lx7c3/MumpmGBbFftMT1SGy4TllShH7Le5ctxKW87Zz5EbrVM2bouzFeCHcTydajdM5HPBMmBiRVSO1UBWgqXlUt9zJOX537hMi6sK1eR+JUG4IBzaTK3rmufvDVQebqBkg6P8= ; Message-ID: <20050704043238.21281.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:32:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doris Smith Reply-To: dormarbil@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Morefest To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200507040350.j643o73v009592@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, you did - and I enjoyed it thoroughly! Doris S And we wished Doris Happy Birthday! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 3 23:51:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j644pFJr015712 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:51:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:51:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FFA2BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 0:31:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4621618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:31:14 -0400 Received: from web51301.mail.yahoo.com (web51301.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j644VD8u013608 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:31:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 5775 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jul 2005 04:31:13 -0000 Received: from [66.82.9.49] by web51301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:31:13 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZPyb02ZEHl2xd4woOhwSWK05zrg13uT7mrBznaEoq7lRtHoLZM2zUR/lUhTG+gXppKYqTtV3GGg2NaJFdYePV3QhyOnNMtdJ4baA2W0nBQ0GdW5F+gzswoatMG9F9Uep+gCH3e2x+ZDgsBn0BbYuQJwwcFvm57F+lrI5rDK+xBo= ; Message-ID: <20050704043113.5773.qmail@web51301.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:31:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doris Smith Reply-To: dormarbil@yahoo.com Subject: Re: For the list Texans To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050703200344b9e8e0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That's neat - thank you. Doris S A Friend of Andy wrote: http://www.birdseyeviews.org/zoom.php?city=Austin&year=1873&extra_info= Bird's eye views of Texas. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 02:17:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j647HUJr028896 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 02:17:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 02:17:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AECEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 3:17:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4627219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:17:30 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j647HTFw027417 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:17:29 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070409154103568 for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:15:41 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:17:26 +0200 Message-ID: <42C8E284.7000107@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:17:24 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm a criminal! References: <200507021242.j62CgCiQ000597@sm.luth.se> In-Reply-To: <200507021242.j62CgCiQ000597@sm.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2005 07:17:26.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E076660:01C58068] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Torkel Franzen skrev 02.07.2005 14:42: >Clyde says: > > > >>The others with prohibitions (including Maine) do so as a revenue issue. >> >> > > In Sweden, it's partly about government revenues, partly about the >general level of drunkenness. Since it's indubitably legal to bring >enormous quantities of cheap booze across the borders as long as you >do it in person, the government is planning to reduce the alcohol tax, >to persuade people to buy in this country. They're hoping to prevent >private imports through the mail from other EU countries, but this is >unlikely to succeed. > > And when your alcohol taxes go down, ours may as well since if Norwegians go to Sweden to buy alcohol they also buy other things suich as meat, and then the trade is bad for the shop-owners (and the large chains) along the border with Sweden. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 03:46:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j648k2Jr002261 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:46:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 03:46:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AEDCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 3:35:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4627890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:35:59 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j647ZwlD028802 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:35:59 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070409341303608 for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:34:13 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:35:58 +0200 Message-ID: <42C8E6DD.6060503@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:35:57 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a glorious third References: <83db447a050703175260648cb6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050703175260648cb6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2005 07:35:58.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[04FECA70:01C5806B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander skrev 04.07.2005 02:52: > I was struck with the notion of the wondrous miniature computer that a >hummingbird must have. It is one thing to be able to hover and feed from a >flower or feeder. It is something else again to stalk insects in >three-dimensional space, at high speed, where the only mechanism of capture >is a very thin tube extending about one-third of your body length from the >middle of your skull. > > We were out at the boat on Saturday, and I now know more about its electrical setup than I diod but I didn't find the fault that stopped the battery loading. My brother will come and help me search for that on Friday, so hopefully we will find and correct the fault. But the great thing last Saturday was the terns: in the Oslo harbour we only see the gulls and they are there all year. Terns are summer visitors in Norway: they breed here and then go back south in the autumn. I have not seen terns in Oslo for many years, and they also hover, watch the sea and then suddenly they dive to get a small herring or sprat. And the way they are flying makes the gulls seem slow and unelegant flyers. I really love the terns. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 06:26:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64BPtJr026573 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 06:25:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 06:26:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FFAB68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 7:25:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4639138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:25:55 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j64BPtqu004330 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:25:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 16689 invoked by uid 89); 4 Jul 2005 11:25:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20050704112554.16688.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: More Pics Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 06:25:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just tossed some more pictures online. There are still more, but they'll have to wait. The new ones start on page five here: http://maynor.net/Temp/Fingerfest/ What a wonderful, wonderful fest it has been! Will write more after I get home. CLO: Please give V. special hugs and kisses. He was a gloriously great host. And in the minor chaos of leaving the Open Hand last night and discussing cars, routes, etc., I somehow managed to miss getting to kiss him goodbye. Note to Wordslers: V. is a gem. More later... Betty, Larry, and Mikey are about to head east, and I'm about to head west. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 06:56:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64BuFJr030208 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 06:56:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 06:56:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FFAC46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 7:56:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4640354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:56:15 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64BuEvS006624 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:56:14 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:56:14 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:56:04 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: More Pics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great pictures! Thanks Natalie - and thanks to Carolyn and Vance for being the perfect hosts. The food and wine and the company were outstnding ! The setting couldn't have been better ! Thank you thank you BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 07/04/05 7:25 AM >>> I just tossed some more pictures online. There are still more, but they'll have to wait. The new ones start on page five here: http://maynor.net/Temp/Fingerfest/ What a wonderful, wonderful fest it has been! Will write more after I get home. CLO: Please give V. special hugs and kisses. He was a gloriously great host. And in the minor chaos of leaving the Open Hand last night and discussing cars, routes, etc., I somehow managed to miss getting to kiss him goodbye. Note to Wordslers: V. is a gem. More later... Betty, Larry, and Mikey are about to head east, and I'm about to head west. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 07:20:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64CKbJr001220 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:20:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:20:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FFAC08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 8:00:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4640486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:00:37 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64C0aG6006800 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:00:36 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j64C0YiQ009274 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:00:34 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200507041200.j64C0YiQ009274@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Pics In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:56:04 EDT." Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:00:34 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU BrP says: >Great pictures! These are no doubt profound photographical studies. They mean nothing to me, however, mostly because I have no idea who are depicted in them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 07:20:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64CKbJr001218 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:20:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:20:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FFAC22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 8:05:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4640701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:05:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64C55oH007128 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:05:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-143.gwi.net [216.195.164.143]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j64C50Y4032607; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:05:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050704075047.01bef4e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:53:36 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: a glorious third In-Reply-To: <42C8E6DD.6060503@gmail.com> References: <83db447a050703175260648cb6@mail.gmail.com> <42C8E6DD.6060503@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:35 AM 7/4/2005, Espen S. Ore wrote: >... But the great thing last Saturday was the terns: in the Oslo harbour >we only see the >gulls and they are there all year. Terns are summer visitors in Norway: >they breed here and then go back south in the autumn. I have not seen >terns in Oslo for many years, and they also hover, watch the sea and >then suddenly they dive to get a small herring or sprat. And the way >they are flying makes the gulls seem slow and unelegant flyers. I really >love the terns. We have some here---I suspect that as in Norway, here they are summer visitors. The coast farther south (Virginia, North Carolina) has an abundance of terns, including the royal tern. When I'm on the NC coast, I spend a lot of time watching them. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 08:09:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64D9aJr007216 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:09:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:09:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AF319@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 8:53:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4641895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:53:55 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64Crt1T010654 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:53:55 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:53:53 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:53:46 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: More Pics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Torkel: These are no doubt profound photographical studies. They mean nothing to me, however, mostly because I have no idea who are depicted in them. Perhaps this will help Starting with page 5: -clo opens another New York State wine for tasting - Larry in the background -Pensive Betty with beer -Joan reaches for a glass from the table filled with assorted treats -Joan listens to stimulating conversation -clo, Brian, and Joan share an amusing story -Vance in the kitchen -Brian and Zach play ball while Brandon, Vova, and the barbecue wait their turns Page 6: - Brian displays his style -Brandon examines Grandpa Paul's hurt toe while Alisha and Haley watch -Larry on the window seat -Syracuse specialty salt potatoes -Tom, Dylan and Haley try out the hammock -Brandon instructs Uncle Brian on the proper way to kick a ball - Jon, Vova, Vance in the background -Master Chef Vance at work while Joan patiently awaits the results Page 7: -Joan, Carolyn and Mikey on the wine and conversation porch -Larry takes his turn online -Carolyn and Betty on the porch -A puppet-in-progress in Vova's workshop - Paul giving the tour (1) - (2) -Brian, Joan, Paul, and Larry and the strawberry shortcastle Page 8: -Paul giving the tour (3) -Vance resting on the stairs -Paul in the gift shop -The strawberry shortcastle -Puppeteers at work 1,2, and 3 The cast of characters: -the wordslers need no introduction -Vance - clo's husband and co-host -Alisha, Brian - Paul's kids -Mikey - Long time friend with near-sibling status to Brian and Alisha -Vova - Paul's housemate and colleague at Open Hand Theater (the Siberian Gypsy Puppeteer) - Tom - Alisha's partner -Brandon, Haley, Dylan, and Zach - the grandkids (ages 2,3,4, and 5) BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 08:09:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64D9aJr007214 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:09:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:09:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AF3A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 8:29:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4641405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:29:35 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64CTYNq008929 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:29:35 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so361382nzf for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 05:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr1252907nzx; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 05:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 05:29:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=V27cBJpIxqH8+e5tSUhd8AGuYu3MIENNzYuYceHcqrBae4V4EWtp7LqUK4xmxMwhVJeFabeHpLDHbORuv1u2li52G1BbHK5YC/DKFrHZx1eCb5DcH3LY/HFFMHK+x5fqAD0wMv0uKQtNriHwhYUV2HKZsVAdHPi1MaoGl15t7Y4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070405292a99eaed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:29:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Pics In-Reply-To: <200507041200.j64C0YiQ009274@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507041200.j64C0YiQ009274@sm.luth.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j64CTZNq008930 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU p 1 Betty and Larry in the top three photos, Carolyn, Betty, and Larry in the next, Carolyn and lots of NY State wine in the last. p 2 Paul, Carolyn, Brian (Paul's son); Paul and Brian; too dark to tell; Carolyn with a FingerFest tee shirt; Larry; Betty; Paul p 3 Paul; Lillia (spelling?) Wild; Edward? Wild; Terry and Lillia; Terry; interior of Alan Wild's brain p. 4 Carolyn; Terry; Betty?, Paul, Larry, Alan; Larry and Vance; Carolyn and Vance; three Wild children with their Mom p. 5 Larry, Carolyn; Betty; Joan and the wine; Joan; Carolyn, Brian, Joan; Vance; one of Alisha's children (she is Paul's daughter) playing soccer with Brian; Brandon (Alisha's son); Vova? Paul's housemate p. 6 Brian; Paul, Alisha, and Brandon; Larry; salt potatoes; Alisha's S.O. Tom and two of his children (WAG); Brian, Brandon, Joan, Vova, Vance; Joan, Vance p. 7 Joan, Carolyn, Mikey (Paul's son); Larry; The Bad Sisters, Carolyn and Betty; sleeping puppet; Paul; Paul; dubious Brian, laughing Joan, bemused Paul, strawberry shortcastle, laughing Larry. p. 8 Paul; Vance; Paul; strawberry shortcastle; Vova and his alter ego; something--can't tell what--more sleeping puppets?; Betty and her alter ego. THE END On 7/4/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > BrP says: > > >Great pictures! > > These are no doubt profound photographical studies. They mean > nothing to me, however, mostly because I have no idea who are > depicted in them. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 09:45:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64EjCJr018517 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:45:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:45:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AF33F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:35:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4645757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:35:12 -0400 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64EZC5J019613 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:35:12 -0400 Received: from gateway_system.mchsi.com (12-214-53-8.client.mchsi.com[12.214.53.8]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050704143511m92008hj6he>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:35:11 +0000 Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050704093418.01c24670@mail.mchsi.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:35:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: David Guy Fetzer Subject: Re: For the list Texans In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050703200344b9e8e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050703200344b9e8e0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:03 PM 7/3/2005, you wrote: >http://www.birdseyeviews.org/zoom.php?city=Austin&year=1873&extra_info= > >Bird's eye views of Texas. > >Karen Karen: As a former Austin resident (not back then of course ;-) ), thanks. Good stuff! Cheers, Dave From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 10:05:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64F5BJr021500 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:05:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:05:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FFAF18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:55:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4646363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:55:10 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64EtA1m021058 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:55:10 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:55:10 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:54:47 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: For the list Texans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU and here's syracuse http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/map_item.pl BrP >>> d.fetzer@MCHSI.COM 07/04/05 10:35 AM >>> At 10:03 PM 7/3/2005, you wrote: >http://www.birdseyeviews.org/zoom.php?city=Austin&year=1873&extra_info= > >Bird's eye views of Texas. > >Karen Karen: As a former Austin resident (not back then of course ;-) ), thanks. Good stuff! Cheers, Dave From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 10:14:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64FEBJr022688 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:14:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:14:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AF568@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:14:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4647176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:14:05 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64FE5il023053 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:14:05 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FFAF74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:14:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200507041514.j64FE5il023053@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:14:05 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Morefest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:12:35 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >I heard that Brandon and his mom were there, too! I love that kid. > >Does Natalie still think he looks like Paul? > >Karen Yes, and that Alicia does as well! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 10:37:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64FatJr025418 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:36:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:37:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AF4E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:36:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4647531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:36:55 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64FQtss024435 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:26:55 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j64FQBRS024830 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:26:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:26:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Happy 4th Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy 4th, all, wherever you are. We have no classes today here at Creighton U., and there have been many celebration opportunities. We will conclude the 3-day weekend here in my dorm with a potluck meal in our lounge tonight. I got a ride to NoFrills yersterday (my first visit there) and picked up a cheesecake and a carrot cake as my contributions. Classes end on Thursday, and I plan to be back in Knoxville on Friday evening. Now back to paper-writing. I have one due tomorrow and one due on Thursday. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 10:38:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64Fc2Jr025560 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:38:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:38:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AF59B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:38:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4647854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:38:02 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64Fbxh7025403 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:37:59 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FFAFB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:37:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200507041537.j64Fbxh7025403@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:37:59 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: More Pics To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:56:04 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Great pictures! Thanks Natalie - and thanks to Carolyn and Vance for >being the perfect hosts. The food and wine and the company were >outstnding ! The setting couldn't have been better ! Thank you thank >you > >BrP > Thank you, Brer Paul, and thank Vova over and over. Not only was last night at the Castle an unforgettable experience, but it was a lesson in storytelling that came in handy much sooner than one might expect... at 2:30 am, in fact. That's when I got a call from my mother: "your father's going to the emergency room and he's driving himself. I'm going with him. His hand hurts." These are not good words. Anyone who's heard stories about my dad knows that a high pain threshold allows him to ignore life-threatening illness and injuries (sewing up his own cuts, waiting till the 4th time his appendix ruptured to complain to the dr. about "a stomach ache", and so on). True to form, he had managed to let his hand swell dramatically (it looked like a snowmobile glove, and about that far down the wrist) on the theory that "it might get better if he soaked it". V again showed himself to be a gem, insisting on driving me to the hospital in case I'd need to take Mom home if he was admitted - which he wasn't; he was only there for about 4-5 hours, including wait times, IV antibiotics, and x-rays (did I mention a penicillin allergy?). However, he was hurting , which is saying something. While we were waiting for the doctor to show up, I provided distraction by describing the Main Event, Strawberry Shortcastle, the puppets, Magic Flute, and the history of puppetry according to Vova. And since I had a lot to distract from, I let out all the stops, using my arms and face and different voices to describe things. As I was winding down, a young guy with a cut and a huge goose-egg on his forehead stuck his head in the door, and said "you tell great stories!" (mom said he'd had his ear glued to the slightly open door the whole time). Apparently the key to great storytelling is to let great stories tell themselves. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 10:47:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64FlYJr026553 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:47:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:47:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AF4F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:47:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4647974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:47:34 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64FlYE3026027 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:47:34 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FFAFD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:47:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200507041547.j64FlYE3026027@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:47:33 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: More Pics To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great - thanks! One thing - Paul describes Mikey as a family friend, I think. Fascinating guy. clo On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:29:34 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >p. 7 Joan, Carolyn, Mikey (Paul's son); Larry; The Bad Sisters, >Carolyn and Betty; sleeping puppet; Paul; Paul; dubious Brian, >laughing Joan, bemused Paul, strawberry shortcastle, laughing Larry. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 10:52:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64FqSJr027051 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:52:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:52:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AF501@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:52:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4648158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:52:28 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64FqSAo026459 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:52:28 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FFAF9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:52:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200507041552.j64FqSAo026459@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:52:27 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: For the list Texans To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>>> d.fetzer@MCHSI.COM 07/04/05 10:35 AM >>> >At 10:03 PM 7/3/2005, you wrote: >>http://www.birdseyeviews.org/zoom.php?city=Austin&year=1873&extra_info= >> >>Bird's eye views of Texas. >> >>Karen >Karen: > >As a former Austin resident (not back then of course ;-) ), thanks. Good >stuff! > >Cheers, > >Dave On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:54:47 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >and here's syracuse > >http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/map_item.pl > > >BrP > Page cannot be displayed. Try: http://tinyurl.com/7rrzt clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 13:15:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64IFUJr014250 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:15:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:15:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AF6DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:15:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4653114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:15:17 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64IFGVZ006250 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:15:16 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so386027nzf for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.160.3 with SMTP id i3mr1261116nze; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YDayXjC6OyzJe1LCBnSYMAxt1zRN5OxCfv0bIphRS8BqugqZY6hxP6bJHCk5CMOobbaR2fp367GrXkLSQkLFV67wJuWDlWn6tawvxTneIxchT1zDPqixPfASxHzViRSTCj0NkVyCHD4XKFV7Wwf/lG41P1Tl+llxkHbSX0WPjqw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070411155f36a18@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:15:16 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: <200507041514.j64FE5il023053@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507041514.j64FE5il023053@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j64IFHVZ006251 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/4/05, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:12:35 -0500, A Friend of Andy > wrote: > > >I heard that Brandon and his mom were there, too! I love that kid. > > > >Does Natalie still think he looks like Paul? > > > >Karen > > Yes, and that Alicia does as well! LOL. I was going to say that it's only fair because Tina and Brian look so much like Gretchen, but Brian is starting to look more like Paul. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 13:50:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64IobJr019639 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:50:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:50:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AF7E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:50:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4654172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:50:36 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64IoaMv009442 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:50:36 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E324EB6BD245 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:50:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000f01c580c9$2f9e9130$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Happy 4th Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:50:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bethany K. Dumas" To: Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 10:26 AM Subject: Happy 4th > Happy 4th, all, wherever you are. > > We have no classes today here at Creighton U., and there have been many > celebration opportunities. We will conclude the 3-day weekend here in my > dorm with a potluck meal in our lounge tonight. I got a ride to NoFrills > yersterday (my first visit there) and picked up a cheesecake and a carrot > cake as my contributions. > > Classes end on Thursday, and I plan to be back in Knoxville on Friday > evening. > > Now back to paper-writing. I have one due tomorrow and one due on > Thursday. > > Bethany I'm sorry I couldn't come down to Omaha to meet you, Bethany. Actually I was there once during your stay, but we had a day of medical appointments and a four- hour drive (2 hours each way) so it filled the day. Sounds like you had a pleasant experience there and I'm glad for that. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 14:45:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64JjiJr027289 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:45:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:45:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AF797@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:45:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4655638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:45:44 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64Jjiae013406 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:45:44 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 118454874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:45:43 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050704124356.01b003e8@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:45:40 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: More Pics In-Reply-To: <200507041547.j64FlYE3026027@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507041547.j64FlYE3026027@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We are in possession of his cell phone. I'll bring it tonight to give to Paul at the poetry reading. We enjoyed him a lot. Betty At 08:47 AM 7/4/2005, you wrote: >Great - thanks! One thing - Paul describes Mikey as a family friend, I >think. Fascinating guy. >clo > >On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:29:34 -0500, A Friend of Andy >wrote: > > >p. 7 Joan, Carolyn, Mikey (Paul's son); Larry; The Bad Sisters, > >Carolyn and Betty; sleeping puppet; Paul; Paul; dubious Brian, > >laughing Joan, bemused Paul, strawberry shortcastle, laughing Larry. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 15:33:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64KWwJr000318 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:32:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:33:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AF71E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:32:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4657185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:32:57 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64KMvLx016446 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:22:57 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j64KMAkp001427 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:22:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:22:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Thanks, Doris M. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm sorry I couldn't come down to Omaha to meet you, Bethany. Actually I was there once during your stay, but we had a day of medical appointments and a four- hour drive (2 hours each way) so it filled the day. Sounds like you had a pleasant experience there and I'm glad for that.< Thanks. I also had a med emergency - last weekend. I fell one day (my now too-large worn-out Birk sandals caught on something, and my foot did not immediately get the message) and sprained my wrist. At the insistence of others (including a med dr here for the term), I agreed on Sunday to go to the CU hospital to have it x-rayed. No break - as I predicted. (I broke wrist bones once and knew immediately that I had done so). This has been a wonderful experience - but four weeks of dorm life - even very comfortable dorm life - is enough at one time, and I am ready to finish up and get back to my day job and other activities. I have completed one of my two remaining papers! If I can get the other one done today, I will enjoy the week much more. In fact, if I can even get a draft completed today, I will be very happy. Of course my first task when I get home will be to pick up a month's worth of accumulated mail, sort through it, pay a couple of bills, etc. (Yes, Natalie, I still write a few checks.) When I went to the po to arrange to have my mail held, I learned that one cannot have mail held more than 45 days. What will I do if I ever decide to leave for the summer? Oh, well - that is not an immediate problem. I plan to be here again summer 2006 - but only for four weeks again. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 16:19:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j64LJIJr006002 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:19:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:19:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AF97E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:09:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4659213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:09:18 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64L9Huu019913 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:09:17 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EFE64A2B0EC01 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:09:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c580dc$8fbe21d0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Thanks, Doris M. Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:08:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When I went to the po to arrange to > have my mail held, I learned that one cannot have mail held more than > 45 days. What will I do if I ever decide to leave for the summer? > Bethany We arrange for a friend to pick up our mail at the post office at the end of a month. We have to leave their name with the PO ahead of time. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 19:09:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6509JJr026415 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:09:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 19:09:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FFB725@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:09:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4663932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:09:18 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j6509IcJ032313 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:09:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 14797 invoked by uid 89); 5 Jul 2005 00:09:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20050705000918.14796.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: I {heart} Microtel Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 19:09:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Greetings from Columbus, Ohio. I could've made it a bit farther but knew there was a Microtel here and had a good coupon from the discount book I picked up at the state line. That unfortunate experience of the not-working net in my room at the Microtel of Staunton seems long, long ago. I'm a major Microtel fan. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 20:30:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j651UEJr002113 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:30:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:30:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AFB91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:30:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4665372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:30:14 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j651UErr008265 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:30:14 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j651UDIb013271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:30:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200507050130.j651UDIb013271@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Morefest Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can only concur with all that has been said about Fingerfest ... great hosts, company, food & drink, etc. all topped off with a visit to the Open Hand Puppet Theater & Museum and Strawberry Shortcastle .... Thanks to all --- but especially our Syracuse meebers and their 'families'. Off later this week to Chicago to visit daughter & her family followed by a week at the Madison Early Music Festival/Workshop ... last year there was a Mac in the dorm lounge so I could get to my math.umb.edu email, but who knows if that will be the case this year ... but I doubt I'll have much time for computers, so enjoy yourselves .... Again thanks to all involved for a wonderful Fest .... Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 22:47:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j653liJr016516 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:47:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:47:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006AFE45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:47:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4672431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:47:43 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j653lesH020078 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:47:40 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FFBB97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:47:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200507050347.j653lesH020078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:47:40 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Morefest To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:30:13 -0400, Joan Boorstein wrote: >I can only concur with all that has been said about Fingerfest ... great >hosts, company, food & drink, etc. all topped off with a visit to the >Open Hand Puppet Theater & Museum and Strawberry Shortcastle .... > >Thanks to all --- but especially our Syracuse meebers and their 'families'. > >Off later this week to Chicago to visit daughter & her family followed by >a week at the Madison Early Music Festival/Workshop ... last year there >was a Mac in the dorm lounge so I could get to my math.umb.edu email, but >who knows if that will be the case this year ... but I doubt I'll have much >time for computers, so enjoy yourselves .... > >Again thanks to all involved for a wonderful Fest .... > >Joan And thank you, Joan - btw I talked to Mercy today to wish her happy bday, and we discussed your viola de gamba (sp)? - she's learning to play a bowed psalter. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 22:51:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j653pBJr016996 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:51:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:51:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006AFC96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:51:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4672555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:51:10 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j653pA0E020370 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:51:10 -0400 Received: from [64.65.239.32] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO BETTY.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 118530756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:51:09 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050704205028.01b6a730@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:51:07 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Some more photos here In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.flickr.com/photos/badbetty/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 4 23:46:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j654k6Jr022986 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:46:08 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 23:46:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FFBCBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 0:16:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4674891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:16:05 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j654F4R2022846 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:15:04 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FFBC82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 0:15:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200507050415.j654F4R2022846@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:15:03 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Bday greetings to Bonnie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU lalalala Happy Birthday, dear Bonnie... g'night! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 00:34:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j655YHJr029455 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:34:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 00:34:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006AFF2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 1:34:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4676586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:34:16 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j655YFuN028538 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:34:16 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070507323006213 for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:32:30 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:34:14 +0200 Message-ID: <42CA1BD4.9090503@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:34:12 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bday greetings to Bonnie References: <200507050415.j654F4R2022846@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200507050415.j654F4R2022846@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2005 05:34:14.0906 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E360DA0:01C58123] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And HB from Oslo as well. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 04:54:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j659sHJr000890 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:54:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 04:54:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B01C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 5:44:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4682399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:44:16 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j659iFbU015599 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:44:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 23499 invoked by uid 89); 5 Jul 2005 09:44:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20050705094415.23498.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: How Weird Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 04:44:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The screen-blanker on my laptop used to be a floating picture of Spencer. Suddenly it has become a slide-show of tombstones! What have I wrought?? I bet I know the answer. I bet at some point I hit "set as screen-blanker" when messing with grave pictures. Will deal with it later. Right now I'm waiting for the sun to come up, which it does much too late when you're this far west in the eastern time zone, so that I can forge onward. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 04:54:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j659sHJr000892 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:54:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 04:54:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B0116@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 5:47:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4682470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:47:44 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j659liL7015930 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:47:44 -0400 Received: from [68.160.8.187] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO [192.168.0.2]) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 98138070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:45:14 -0400 Message-ID: <42CA5750.1080804@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:48:00 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Happy Birthday Bonnie! References: <20050705000918.14796.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> In-Reply-To: <20050705000918.14796.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday, Bonnie. It sounds like you have a great day planned. I hope that you enjoy it to the max! Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 05:12:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65ABxJr003455 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:12:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:12:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B02BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 6:11:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4685534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:11:58 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65ABwvc018426 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:11:58 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:11:58 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:11:25 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Bonnie! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday Bonnie Have a wonderful day. BrP >>> leonard@BC.EDU 07/05/05 5:48 AM >>> Happy Birthday, Bonnie. It sounds like you have a great day planned. I hope that you enjoy it to the max! Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 05:29:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65ATDJr005429 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:29:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:29:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B02C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 6:19:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4685644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:19:13 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65AJCrX018869 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:19:13 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24635743 for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 03:32:33 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 03:19:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:19:22 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <10810369542.20050705041922@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Doris M. In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 249, in=103459, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You do what my folks did for years....have a reliable neighbor/friend/agent pick it up for you. Have them toss the junk, and once a week or so, send you the stuff that is "potentially important". No, they don't open it. They just stuff it in a priority mail envelope and send it to you. dan 7/4/2005, 2:22 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> I learned that one cannot have BKD> mail held more than BKD> 45 days. What will I do if I ever decide to leave BKD> for the summer? 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On 7/5/05, bonniemaev wrote: > Thank you all for the birthday greetings. The day has started out well. It > is 57 degrees at 6:30 a.m. My kind of weather. > > > And HB from Oslo as well. > > > > Espen > > > > > > -- > --bonniev > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 08:16:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65DGCJr028223 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:16:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:16:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B04CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 9:16:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4692289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:16:11 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65DGBQU029566 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:16:11 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so856090wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.38 with SMTP id 38mr4603895wro; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:16:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=iDFSEbOAXP29T2PdwYKbQ7s00kssr7tEgxQ51PCumjtWrulOmDG21hcwMB00+2kFyGINzOyu8qfY9iV7xU46G+O60+FisbKegHA8/V7uyVvNyZfoDK1kZgfCDEdoIwHgk4mTkyH0cxHgA4ZyFvfl5ZH4ebddndIRoebrpuld1oI= Message-ID: <83db447a05070506162222dfad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:16:09 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Weird In-Reply-To: <20050705094415.23498.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20050705094415.23498.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j65DGCJr028223 On 7/5/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I bet at some point I hit "set as screen-blanker" > when messing with grave pictures. Yes. There is a toggle in that when activated does a random or shuffled selection from your photo files. My screen saver is that way---mostly a slide show of Norway pics, but it surprises me occasionally with a cat, hummingbird, or other shot. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 08:39:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65DdDJr030533 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:39:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:39:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FFC57F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 9:29:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4692494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:29:12 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65DJB16030093 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:19:11 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j65DIQNK026067 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:18:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: po/bonnie Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for the po suggestions - I am relieved to learn that the po will release accumulated mail to another person - when I asked for suggestions at the po, no one had any suggestions for me other than change of address or forwarding of everything - neither of which make any sense. And Happy Birthday, bonnie - enjoy your weather. It has been cool here for 3 days, also - I love it! I also loved the fireworks on the horizon all around Omaha last night - I watched the final minutes from my bedroom window. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 09:19:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65EIxJr002938 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:19:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:19:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B06FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:18:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4697214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:18:29 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65EEciw008344 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:14:38 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:14:38 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:14:20 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: a second comet for D.I.? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU NASA is looking to see if any damage was done to the flyby part Deep Impact probe when it went through the coma. If they do a course correction within the next couple of weeks, it will be in a position to fly close to the comet Boethin in 3.5 years. I hadn't heard about this idea before. I wonder if they just discovered it as a possibility. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 10:07:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65F7BJr009630 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:07:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:07:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B06A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:07:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4702264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:07:10 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65F7Ab8017120 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:07:10 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so897616wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.78 with SMTP id f78mr4443478wra; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:07:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DmW5nJNoOUXQUjEYEJfUVNMQdsb1ivPbmTuNHxkZBTpmN9EDvAglT1la2C65fMDjM5G9zE3h9BpRhFfXKKm7OL1tGGyUdR2Gx1OwNbVsjDwSkTvbOWEnpEF1ICjDKA7+b1El5ibTY2mjRILav36Y7Lf110Gzr6TqAA558n5JpgQ= Message-ID: <44dce1c105070508073673501b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:07:09 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Bonnie! In-Reply-To: <42CA5750.1080804@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050705000918.14796.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <42CA5750.1080804@bc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j65F7Ab8017122 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/5/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > Happy Birthday, Bonnie. It sounds like you have a great day planned. I > hope that you enjoy it to the max! > > Rita L. > I second that! Happy Birthday! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 10:53:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65FrZJr015598 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:53:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:53:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B09A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:53:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4706230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:53:30 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65FrT8B026062 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:53:29 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-68.gwi.net [216.195.163.68]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j65FrNQK045341; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:53:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050705115245.01bfc218@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:53:22 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: a second comet for D.I.? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:14 AM 7/5/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >NASA is looking to see if any damage was done to the flyby part Deep >Impact probe when it went through the coma. If they do a course >correction within the next couple of weeks, it will be in a position to >fly close to the comet Boethin in 3.5 years. I hadn't heard about this >idea before. I wonder if they just discovered it as a possibility. apropos: http://tinyurl.com/8z774 cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 11:17:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65GHQJr018534 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:17:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:17:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B086A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:17:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4708048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:17:25 -0400 Received: from math.umb.edu (math.umb.edu [158.121.104.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65GHPb1029761 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:17:25 -0400 Received: (from jboor@localhost) by math.umb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.8) id j65GHP4s017812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:17:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Boorstein Message-Id: <200507051617.j65GHP4s017812@math.umb.edu> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Bonnie! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 11:07:14 2005 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:07:09 -0400 From: Terry Wild Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Bonnie! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/5/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > Happy Birthday, Bonnie. It sounds like you have a great day planned. I > hope that you enjoy it to the max! Birthday greetings from Boston ... great weather here today so far and hope yours is great as well so you can do as you wish ... Joan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 11:45:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65GjkJr022287 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:45:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:45:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B09C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:35:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4709158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:35:45 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65GZj5G032170 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:35:45 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:35:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:35:34 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: a second comet for D.I.? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU creative love the phrase "moral sufferings" I wonder in what jurisdiction the suit will be brought. BrP >>> cwv@GWI.NET 07/05/05 11:53 AM >>> apropos: http://tinyurl.com/8z774 cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 11:45:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65GjkJr022291 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:45:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:45:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B09D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:38:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4709462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:38:06 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65Gc65M032734 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:38:06 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so795929wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.11.25 with SMTP id 25mr4549840wrk; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KtwlBu/mzC/rNbUjZ8iSVgzVdaGWJQuXaH7wyQuXm3+P2AjrRZKmTDueMjRiZryj+aARZGIg3WbComk3megsu5BGJsPzZT4SpgIaB8Xlel4Hzs2TyBm70+R8SUss0NiVFH7wuzI30HttctNn4vGxLWlqOOSq7nTaBjS8SJoXAAA= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:38:05 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Bonnie! In-Reply-To: <200507051617.j65GHP4s017812@math.umb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200507051617.j65GHP4s017812@math.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j65GjkJr022291 Thanks Rita, Joan, and Terry. So far, so good. The weather here is indeed beautiful: sunny, 66F, light breeze. We had a wonderful breakfast at the restored Bar Harbor Club. Nice window table over-looking Bar Island and the harbor. The interior of the club is stunning. Gorgeous chandeliers. Wood everywhere. An antique wooden phone booth in the lobby. The food was good. I've never seen such elegant chafing dishes. Today is also the ninth anniversary of our move to Maine. What a great decision that was! -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 11:46:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65GjkJr022290 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:45:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:45:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B08BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:35:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4709182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:35:57 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65GZuS2032246 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:35:56 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050705163555016000l2cme>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:35:55 +0000 Message-ID: <42CAB6EA.7080209@istori.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:35:54 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Doris M. References: <10810369542.20050705041922@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <10810369542.20050705041922@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester writes, > You do what my folks did for years....have a reliable > neighbor/friend/agent pick it up for you. Have them toss the junk, > and once a week or so, send you the stuff that is "potentially > important". No, they don't open it. They just stuff it in a priority > mail envelope and send it to you. There are also professional services that do this. Bethany may not be interested, but since I looked it up, I thought I'd post the info -- It's More Fun To Post To The List. The ones I know about happen to be for RV'ers living on the road: http://www.google.com/search?q=full-timers+forwarding-service of which one that is well-recommended is run by the Escapees RV club: http://www.escapees.com/MailForwardingService.asp You have to be a member ($70/year) to sign up for forwarding, but they do have temporary forwarding services (you forward your home mail to their address, they forward to the road as you request), as well as permanent (your permanent address is at their location). Rates for temporary service: 2 months (60 days)=$30 3 months (90 days)=$40 4 months (120 days)=$50 6 months (180 days)=$60 A $15 enrollment fee is required for Temporary services in addition to a $50 postage deposit. (Prices subject to change.) There are other sorts of forwarding services, such as for expats or others living outside the US who need to get domestic mail; I didn't look comprehensively, though: http://www.google.com/search?q=mail+forwarding-service Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 11:49:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65GnFJr022749 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:49:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:49:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B0906@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:49:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4710698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:49:15 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65GnE2l002493 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:49:14 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:49:14 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:49:02 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: bigger than a breadbox Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The impactor that got in the way of Tempel 1 is described in various news stories as the size of a coffee table, a barrel, an armchair, and a washing machine. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 12:04:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65H44Jr024336 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:04:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:04:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B0967@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:04:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4712421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:04:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65H43A1005293 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:04:03 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so869780wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.115.4 with SMTP id n4mr4747795wrc; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:04:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=e3Ib5p42Np8zEPa7PjpWRhbSxYqd+VCP8YSKo1ERDucuEG5bj8lL5IGNenUyDJmQT74iPN4ROc7ns1uLY6spkeR+Dh2p77d4ZUPfUI3LdnkyWcHXK53T4VBW4H1pEm0OnvHqdh2KdObWa8jX7RjlFRzmg6s7El2fTM4FByNpTuM= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:04:01 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: <200507050347.j653lesH020078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200507050347.j653lesH020078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j65H44Jr024336 And thanks to those that visited me as well. -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 12:07:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65H78Jr025023 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:07:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:07:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B0973@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:07:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4712599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:07:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65H70kP005870 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:07:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so469667nzf for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr1438945nzc; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:07:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Di+YnTAzV/7F93y5rQo0Fv4c0IN1C7GVlnOqoZuNzHCRYtus0554OF87ULPc5LjaBcDkmdxdLVlYoBTJVdOrKkVMFF3WiEVobNlliO55tP1tfA2KL9E3GjkeLgJSNe7OR9VZm4Nx+/BVvTS7hOOdby9k73il2L+hWRT38rHii14= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070510076374dd84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:07:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507050347.j653lesH020078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j65H70kP005873 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Who? Pictures? On 7/5/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > And thanks to those that visited me as well. > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 12:38:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65HcqJr029058 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:38:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:38:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B09D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:38:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4714092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:38:52 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65HcoJo009542 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:38:50 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-68.gwi.net [216.195.163.68]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j65HcgNQ059101; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:38:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050705131432.01c016e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:14:53 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: a second comet for D.I.? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:35 PM 7/5/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >creative >love the phrase "moral sufferings" > > >I wonder in what jurisdiction the suit will be brought. California, perhaps? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 13:11:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65IBFJr000328 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:11:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:11:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B0C3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:01:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4716149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:01:14 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65I1EO1012958 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:01:14 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so880932wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.57 with SMTP id e57mr2905957wre; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rAgleJjvufr9Jg4X76Yxp5aAVxSbHcCUc6AYYezgUUeFiH9GG28znhNtEC27d2hVC2xVQJeIFuROfSG2fu3L+18vuZN2G56tnbQm5f9sL96FRDvunfs//5US3XUXPLQwaZPXsqDceRvemZadcHzoUSHPIQoneyOTkjryw2FPMuQ= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:01:13 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070510076374dd84@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200507050347.j653lesH020078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705070510076374dd84@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j65IBFJr000328 Not a body! Thanks for nothing. But I got pictures. You want pictures? Marie On 7/5/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Who? Pictures? > > On 7/5/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > And thanks to those that visited me as well. > > > > -- > > Marie > > marieber@gmail.com > > > -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 13:12:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65IC5Jr000399 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:12:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:12:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B0CAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:12:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4717446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:12:04 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65IC41a015468 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:12:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so476294nzf for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.100.19 with SMTP id x19mr1395208nzb; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:12:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=d2zSCZXQLeKILz4b1dx3sFKJMnyqF59d+KNPh6VzhAQKUXvQvNPiDrALIAp0e8ct7bnLKYqwAAmKCkCfY1Sru3NLzH9PJybERgCu+NZIlc3YSR0gpHr/b9a8F1icshbTIcDHCyPaCkmFd7kLy4loZ3YltYTyoxzahjrT54z+Q+0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507051112f38adf7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:12:03 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507050347.j653lesH020078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <8ddfc8a705070510076374dd84@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j65IC41a015469 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You should have a fest.:) On 7/5/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Not a body! Thanks for nothing. > But I got pictures. You want pictures? > Marie > > On 7/5/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > Who? Pictures? > > > > On 7/5/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > And thanks to those that visited me as well. > > > > > > -- > > > Marie > > > marieber@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 13:31:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65IV2Jr002032 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:31:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:31:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B0B37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:26:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4718454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:26:34 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65IQXaL017490 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:26:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:26:33 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:25:59 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Morefest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There was almost no discussion of a venue for next year. At post-fest poetry last night Betty, Larry, clo, and I did talk about it a little and had the vague notion of a Northwest US location - ideas? BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/05/05 2:12 PM >>> You should have a fest.:) On 7/5/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > Not a body! Thanks for nothing. > But I got pictures. You want pictures? > Marie > > On 7/5/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > Who? Pictures? > > > > On 7/5/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > And thanks to those that visited me as well. > > > > > > -- > > > Marie > > > marieber@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > Marie > marieber@gmail.com > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 13:31:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65IV2Jr002031 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:31:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:31:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B0C2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4718199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:01 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65IL1tr016827 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:01 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so814642wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.49.77 with SMTP id w77mr4582097wrw; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.7 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:21:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=lTvhblDWCxvl4ih/q9F5LurImzqbZn9HAQfwLRe8PyEMVQSeABMcFrzBpo83sRyQrA2AbUe0EZYKoDPy/c882Hj4USvB17CXH3pscLjIXoFuZYdzCpBT4tKThqAXOBt6KYMLWfRSPGDAnXGUrdplxZ54sGpgrXwLJ3XjuaMy9GA= Message-ID: <44dce1c105070511214a581f2e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:00 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: fest thanks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j65IL1tr016828 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A special thanks to clo and V for being so accommodating and letting us mess up their dinner plans on Sat. night! It did my heart good to hear everyone enjoyed their late night meal. I must say everyone seemed timeless. Retirement sure is good for Natalie, Larry and Betty. I hope the rest of us can achieve that fulfillment! We're sorry we missed the actual fest. Will's fever was held at bay long enough to allow him to enjoy swimming and boating with his cousins. He appreciated everyone's get well wishes. I'm sure they helped. Joan it was good to talk with you and maybe we'll catch up some day soon. You really aren't that far away. After seeing Natalie and Betty's pictures, I'm even more sorry we missed the castle tour and shortcastle. I can't go by a graveyard without thinking of Natalie. We had to explain Find-a-grave to the children. That was much easier than explaining fingerfest and words-l to the relatives. :-) So much to do, so little time.... Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 13:38:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65Ic9Jr002886 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:38:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:38:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B0B71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:38:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4719184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:38:08 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65Ic8v7018903 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:38:08 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so478620nzf for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr1480918nzc; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:38:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G6BrPzzI9jEWkJfHLIRm93pMsc5TePZON6SNZKXWcRR3bZvGIHn/BPhwpWEUZehAwO0rggAajegcTekCOrto9jozWFGvf8aAMr7iT0Oty87mdqFQxT8Fbuh/FTIYAkxROuivjbq2bZFYMuzQFRqRD22xYpk9qHnHtySfnAMz/t8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050705113818857e42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:38:07 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j65Ic8v7018905 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Seattle? Boise (but I think Dan goes to a family reunion over the 4th). Who else is NW? On 7/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > There was almost no discussion of a venue for next year. At post-fest > poetry last night Betty, Larry, clo, and I did talk about it a little > and had the vague notion of a Northwest US location > > - ideas? > > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/05/05 2:12 PM >>> > You should have a fest.:) > > On 7/5/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > Not a body! Thanks for nothing. > > But I got pictures. You want pictures? > > Marie > > > > On 7/5/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > Who? Pictures? > > > > > > On 7/5/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > > And thanks to those that visited me as well. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Marie > > > > marieber@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Marie > > marieber@gmail.com > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 13:43:13 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65Ih8Jr003401 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:43:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:43:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B0C8E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:43:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4719395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:43:08 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65Ih7hJ019488 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:43:08 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:43:07 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:43:03 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Morefest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was pushing for Portland so I could combine it with a visit to the future grandkid but I don't think we have any Portlanders who are currently active. We'll have to do some recruiting :-) BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/05/05 2:38 PM >>> Seattle? Boise (but I think Dan goes to a family reunion over the 4th). Who else is NW? On 7/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > There was almost no discussion of a venue for next year. At post-fest > poetry last night Betty, Larry, clo, and I did talk about it a little > and had the vague notion of a Northwest US location > > - ideas? > > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/05/05 2:12 PM >>> > You should have a fest.:) > > On 7/5/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > Not a body! Thanks for nothing. > > But I got pictures. You want pictures? > > Marie > > > > On 7/5/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > > > Who? Pictures? > > > > > > On 7/5/05, Marieber Meeber wrote: > > > > And thanks to those that visited me as well. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Marie > > > > marieber@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Marie > > marieber@gmail.com > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 13:48:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65ImBJr004060 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:48:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:48:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B0B9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:48:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4719676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:48:11 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65ImAkI020092 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:48:11 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so479540nzf for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.60 with SMTP id t60mr1460238nzg; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:48:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mAblHIb/Pe2bKsmwgfKeVhb8MrJ9IDCURIDpdPdVKMOjRLFrSUSeqLXDPFsBKGMAM513HfMkf/bFcXJLJ4NTUA/WyrwdmLtGQyVUcPZ28I+iD6rPZZ2wAP/Kuom1kGxw8zP7DPlZ2wt/rWuYHOtSEy3xaptK/fgaoYKaogS7xG0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050705114852bed9ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:48:10 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j65ImBkI020093 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I was pushing for Portland so I could combine it with a visit to the > future grandkid I figured. But we've done Portland already. It'll be GrandKid by then.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 13:56:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65Iu0Jr005031 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:56:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:56:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B0BB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:55:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4720157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:55:59 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65ItxPo021218 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:55:59 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so480294nzf for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr144457nzb; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:55:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KFIoTw7dQEvP7p0qOqqTSwefg2O84GvPT808rYeq80q1DY/M+REapZguodLFpr5J3ROnPFIzSGBBeQiwhANN6e/rUJNU4AnSXMPdk86Wnru3F9pKGKr57biK4MLNfaZLLNjLKjlH3JZI4dIB1GYoIFFgtZ6iVd/65fJX7gS2VO4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050705115565bf4b00@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:55:59 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j65ItxPo021221 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Yeah and I've already "done" Grandkid, but that doesn't mean the second > time around isn't special too The two are not comparable. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 14:14:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65JDxJr007405 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:14:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:14:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FFD1CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:53:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4720098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:53:59 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65IrwwS020953 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:53:58 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:53:58 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:53:37 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Morefest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yeah and I've already "done" Grandkid, but that doesn't mean the second time around isn't special too BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/05/05 2:48 PM >>> I figured. But we've done Portland already. It'll be GrandKid by then.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 14:14:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65JEHJr007446 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:14:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:14:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B0CE4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:04:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4720591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:04:17 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65J4FA1022254 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:04:15 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:04:15 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:03:56 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Morefest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU the other suggestion was Arizona but then perhaps it souldn't be in July BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/05/05 2:55 PM >>> On 7/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Yeah and I've already "done" Grandkid, but that doesn't mean the second > time around isn't special too The two are not comparable. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 14:38:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65JbuJr010715 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:37:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:38:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B0D26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:17:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4721341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:17:55 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65JHseA024321 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:17:54 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so482263nzf for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.19 with SMTP id j19mr1440506nzj; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:17:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AyplFaHSq0nqSNwIgvfVcvjhTVxXQYI9vokx7jA3FDTAhJeiTiGE4XJtMQBBuM+dkqGLpIDJHMBT2jiat1VmTJeYjf12HAO1d/4BUGjcFBWu1lOR9V8tviiNsJ4qr4a9tbza6AsIqaoN/2KU9+l71jZRtmdGb04GG0alqSE67eE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050705121735dc4719@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:17:54 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j65JHteA024322 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That's what people said about Austin--but that 4th we had gorgeous weather and I remember that it was hellish in Maine. This year was another story. I feel more or less normal at work, but even with the A/C in my house on, it feels . Karen On 7/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > the other suggestion was Arizona > > but then perhaps it souldn't be in July > > BrP > > > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/05/05 2:55 PM >>> > On 7/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Yeah and I've already "done" Grandkid, but that doesn't mean the > second > > time around isn't special too > > The two are not comparable. > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 14:41:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65JexJr011091 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:41:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:41:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B0D8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:40:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4722877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:40:59 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65Jewi7027681 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:40:58 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:40:58 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:40:34 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: t.m.i. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Martha Stewart reveals the her prison nickname was "M.Diddy" BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 15:19:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65KJ6Jr015085 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:19:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:19:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B0D43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:19:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4724696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:19:05 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j65K8sPu031364 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:08:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 28699 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Jul 2005 20:08:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:08:52 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a second comet for D.I.? Message-ID: <20050705200852.GA20513@words-l.org> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050705131432.01c016e8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050705131432.01c016e8@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 01:14:53PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 12:35 PM 7/5/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >creative > >love the phrase "moral sufferings" > > > > > >I wonder in what jurisdiction the suit will be brought. > > California, perhaps? HA!!!!!!!!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 15:20:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65KKnJr015208 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:20:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:20:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B0E53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:20:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4724987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:20:49 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j65KAiUn031745 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:10:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 30370 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Jul 2005 20:10:43 -0000 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:10:42 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: t.m.i. Message-ID: <20050705201042.GA29936@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 03:40:34PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Martha Stewart reveals the her prison nickname was "M.Diddy" "prediction" : leno or letterman tonight From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 15:23:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65KMqJr015469 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:22:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:23:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B0E5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:22:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4725909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:22:52 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65KMoMg001383 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:22:51 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:22:50 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:22:38 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: 1909 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When cats were bigger http://tinyurl.com/a7fft BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 15:26:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65KQTJr015799 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:26:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:26:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B0D5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:26:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4726068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:26:29 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65KQT3D001768 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:26:29 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so488222nzf for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr1493465nzt; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:26:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lIq83THdksykE4ppNVEcCg3TRTgYPq5AhLMjdJMWvVwQg389b2fEHq2+8CkM7fgQQwoWQraCt0mJwYRo5o6r1eJoqTjQodUzl17hF86uTkTzA/nW1cWaTdoj9Xu2Cab97MgV8WQOFWSeQ9FfF4M0/0H29jur1GEsLcegpKEiXZ8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070513263f88eaac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:26:28 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 1909 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j65KQT3D001769 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Give Nanook time... He's already bigger than Burl. On 7/5/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > When cats were bigger > > > http://tinyurl.com/a7fft > > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 18:49:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j65NnYJr008876 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:49:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:49:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B1341@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:49:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4739748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:49:33 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65NnU8U026299 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:49:30 -0400 Received: from brunnhilde (c-66-31-136-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.31.136.102]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005070523492901400cj2e8e>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:49:29 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Happy Birthday Bonnie! Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:51:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200507051617.j65GHP4s017812@math.umb.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Birthday greetings from Boston ... And from the Pioneer Valley, too. Happy birthday, Bonnie! --aDam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 19:21:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j660LSJr013095 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:21:29 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:21:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B14B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:21:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4740630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:21:22 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j660LLIf028494 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:21:21 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j660LLvR005041 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:21:21 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j660L6xd022017 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:21:08 -0400 Message-ID: <018201c581c0$9b7b7330$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Happy Birthday Bonnie! Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:21:07 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ditto from 'Gansett... I wish you a splendid '85, or better, a '78 George Latour. ----- Original Message ----- >> Birthday greetings from Boston ... > > And from the Pioneer Valley, too. Happy birthday, Bonnie! > > --aDam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 20:13:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j661DGJr018579 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:13:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:13:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B16FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:03:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4742268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:03:15 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6613F2N032118 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:03:15 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AC2B9E94405B0 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:03:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c581c6$63ac6f80$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <018201c581c0$9b7b7330$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Subject: Re: Re: Happy Birthday Bonnie! Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:02:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And Happy Birthday from Nebraska. Hope it's been a wonderful day. - D. M. Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Bonnie! > Ditto from 'Gansett... I wish you a splendid '85, or better, a '78 George > Latour. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> Birthday greetings from Boston ... >> >> And from the Pioneer Valley, too. Happy birthday, Bonnie! >> >> --aDam > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 20:30:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j661UlJr021142 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:30:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:30:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B1753@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:20:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4743056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:20:46 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j661KjRJ000837 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:20:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 25638 invoked by uid 89); 6 Jul 2005 01:20:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20050706012045.25637.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: =?utf-8?B?IkFoLA==?= Are You Digging On My =?utf-8?B?R3JhdmU/Ig==?= Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:20:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/dogcem.jpg From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 21:11:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j662BnJr025470 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:11:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:11:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FFDD4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:31:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4744728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:31:42 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j661Vemn002006 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:31:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 27700 invoked by uid 89); 6 Jul 2005 01:31:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20050706013140.27699.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: HB,B! Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:31:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy birthday, Bonniemae! -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 21:12:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j662BnJr025471 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:11:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:11:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FFE56A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:59:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4756875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:46:36 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j661kZn4003973 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:46:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 29126 invoked by uid 89); 6 Jul 2005 01:46:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20050706014635.29125.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Zooming Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:46:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I should zoom more often. The dog in the cemetery was FAR AWAY. And one of the pictures of Betty and Larry I took was also using zoom and also looked better than most non-zoom pictures. I almost never zoom since I almost never take distance shots. I think I should do it more often. I think this dog looks quite good: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/dogcem.html That's four pictures, not just the single one I posted the earlier url for. I chose the one I posted since it struck me as best as illustrating the Hardy poem. Greetings from another Microtel -- this one just west of Nashville. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 21:38:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j662cLJr028430 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:38:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:38:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B1F47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:38:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4759373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:38:21 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j662SLHt007814 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:28:21 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j662RZ3V003879 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:27:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:28:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: another state Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had never been to Nebraska before this trip. Tonight I added another state - Iowa. We drove there so a friend here could go to a Dairy Queen. Carter Lake the lake, not the town) is attractive. (Probably parts of the town are attractive also.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 22:10:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6639wJr032001 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:09:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:10:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B23FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:09:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4762141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:09:58 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f4.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j662xufs010793 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:59:57 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:59:56 -0700 Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:59:56 GMT Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: FF Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:59:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 02:59:56.0488 (UTC) FILETIME=[CA2D5480:01C581D6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Congratulations to clo and BrP on what appears to have been a great fest. Loved the castlecake! I couldn't tell from the reports - was watching fireworks not on the fest agenda? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 22:35:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j663ZDJr002379 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:35:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:35:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B2416@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:15:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4765412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:15:12 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f36.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6635BbF012284 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:05:12 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:05:11 -0700 Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:05:11 GMT Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: That time of year again Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:05:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 03:05:11.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[85EB76C0:01C581D7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland : >I have never noticed an accent in Minnesota. It was "Norwegian" with a midwest rhythm - the result is quite different from both broadcast American and the Philly/Joisey/Del accents I'm used to. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 5 22:35:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j663ZDJr002380 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:35:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:35:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B2427@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:19:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4766609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:19:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j663Iv5u013610 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:18:57 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00FFEA60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:18:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200507060318.j663Iv5u013610@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:18:57 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: FF To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:59:56 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Congratulations to clo and BrP on what appears to have been a great fest. >Loved the castlecake! > >I couldn't tell from the reports - was watching fireworks not on the fest >agenda? It never even occurred to me; but then, the Main Event was on the 3rd, and everyone had departed or was worn out by Fireworks time anyway. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 05:10:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66AAaJr023600 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:10:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:10:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B2B45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 6:10:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4784875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:10:32 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66AACro021171 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:10:13 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j66AA9CZ028022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:10:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:10:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group cc: saken@email.uky.edu Subject: Brad Grissom memorial service In-Reply-To: <42BC8C91.7040302@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <42BC8C91.7040302@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > LarryK: Are you definitely going to make it to Brad's memorial > service? I've studied the calendar and realized that it would be > *extremely* complicated for me to arrange things so that I could be in > Lexington late afternoon of the 7th. But it would be terrible (imho) if > there was no Wordsler presence. I hope you are going to be there! I am leaving this morning on the trip. The quickest way to contact me en route is on my Blackberry: phone 734-891-2245, or email KESTENBAUML@EWASHTENAW.ORG. My first stop will be the Northwest Ohio Archives on the 5th floor of the Bowling Green State University Library, in Bowling Green, OH. I hope to get to the archives when they open at 8am, and work until 5pm or when I'm done, whichever is first. I think there's a Wordsler or two in the Bowling Green area, and they'd be welcome to stop by the library and see me today. I'm a tall, bearded, balding guy wearing (today) a maroon striped shirt and black pants. Then I will head south toward Cincinnati (about a 3 hour drive from Bowling Green). Tonight I will stay with Janice's mom near Covington, KY. Tomorrow morning (Thursday), I'll leave early, travel to Lexington (a bit more than an hour drive from Covington), and spend the day doing research at the University of Kentucky libraries. The memorial service is scheduled for 5:00 pm on Thursday. (If I am wrong about this, or it has been changed, please let me know ASAP!) At this writing, I still don't know where the service is being held, but I believe it is at the UK campus or nearby, and that I will be able to make contact with someone connected with the event at the UK library. My plan is to make some prefatory remarks, and then read aht's appreciation (copied to the list earlier). If anyone else has something which ought to be said, please convey it to me ASAP, probably via the Blackberry address above. After the service, some kind of reception is planned. If there are people hanging around to talk, I will take part in that. Then, I will find a hotel or some place to stay, either in Lexington or on the road to Frankfort. On Friday, I will go to Frankfort, the Kentucky state capital (I think less than an hour drive from Lexington), and spend the day at KDLA -- the Kentucky state archives -- or perhaps at the elections office on the east side of town. At closing time, I will leave Frankfort and travel back to Covington (probably a bit more than an hour drive) to stay again with Janice's mom. On Saturday morning, I will return to Ann Arbor (about a four hour drive). I hope I have access to this email account, but I might not. If you want to make sure I see something quickly, send it to my county address -- KESTENBAUML@EWASHTENAW.ORG -- where it will immediately show up on my handheld. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com Washtenaw County Clerk & Register of Deeds, http://ewashtenaw.org The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 05:27:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66ARDJr026353 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:27:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:27:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B2B6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 6:20:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4785256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:20:40 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66AKdv8022160 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:20:40 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j66AKcGf028172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:20:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:20:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A good way to see Norway In-Reply-To: <200506190029.j5J0TmeG009759@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200506190029.j5J0TmeG009759@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Mrs. Williams wrote: > Although Lexington is a five-hour drive from where we'll be, we will try > to go. That sounds like a pretty big shlep. Let me know if you're going to be there. Of course, y'all would be welcome to come up and stand with me at the podium, if you like, and add your comments, or read aht's speech, or stand silently beside me as a Words-L show of force, or whatever. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com Washtenaw County Clerk & Register of Deeds, http://ewashtenaw.org The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 05:27:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66ARDJr026351 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:27:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:27:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B2B60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 6:17:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4785146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:17:12 -0400 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66AHCQw021865 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:17:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 26170 invoked by uid 89); 6 Jul 2005 10:17:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20050706101711.26169.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: BIA Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:17:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just went on and set mail since I'll be home by tonight. So y'all can be interesting again. Again I will say what a wonderful, wonderful fest this was. You can't beat sitting and sipping on clo's porch -- unless it's hanging out with puppets at the Open Hand. In addition to the fun of meeting BrP's delightful family and almost family (Mikey), it was great getting to meet Vovo (aka Vladimir -- Paul's roommate). His puppet demo was impressive, and then he let us fondle them. Joan: How was the traffic on your way home? I found that there were fewer trucks on the 4th, which was good since trucks can be a pain, especially when you're trying to watch for signs (though I like truckers in that they're usually good and polite drivers who follow road etiquette much more consistently than some ordinary drivers). Next login from Jackson. I made use of Microtel's free long-distance to call and confirm pick-up time of Spencer (tomorrow since I don't know that I'll be getting home in time to have done it today). The Microtel really is amazing. Phone freaks could sit and yak all day and night to their friends in faraway places (domestic only, though). -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 07:17:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66CHjJr008027 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:17:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:17:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FFF53B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 8:17:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4789488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:17:45 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66CHj3K025789 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:17:45 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:17:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:17:30 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: The I.O.C. has voted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's London in 2012 BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 07:23:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66CNdJr009026 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:23:40 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:23:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00FFF570@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 8:23:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4789999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:23:39 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66CNcQF026912 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:23:39 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-29.gwi.net [216.195.163.29]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j66CNZlS030924; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:23:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706082113.01bf74d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:23:34 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:17 AM 7/6/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >It's London in 2012 That is an upset similar in magnitude to Atlanta winning out over Athens. Poor Chirac---first the No vote on the Union charter, now this. Definitely not his year. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 07:30:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66CU3Jr009754 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:30:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:30:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B2B56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 8:20:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4789781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:20:02 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66CK1ca026488 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:20:02 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070614181509597 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:18:15 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:20:00 +0200 Message-ID: <42CBCC70.7010602@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:20:00 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 12:20:00.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[07B5C140:01C58225] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot skrev 06.07.2005 14:17: >It's London in 2012 > > > But the annual conference which led me to Victoria BC this year is at the Sorbonne July 4-9 next year. Maybe there could be a Words-l French Fest? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 07:42:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66CfsJr011075 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:41:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:42:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FFF641@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 8:41:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4791318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:41:53 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66Cfql4029840 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:41:53 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070614400709655 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:40:07 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:41:52 +0200 Message-ID: <42CBD18F.2050801@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:41:51 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706082113.01bf74d0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706082113.01bf74d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 12:41:52.0122 (UTC) FILETIME=[158445A0:01C58228] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander skrev 06.07.2005 14:23: > At 08:17 AM 7/6/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> It's London in 2012 > > > That is an upset similar in magnitude to Atlanta winning out over > Athens. Poor Chirac---first the No vote on the Union charter, now > this. Definitely not his year. But at least he could joke about British food: http://www.itn.co.uk/news/1869604.html Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 07:43:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66CgrJr011215 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:42:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:43:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00FFF647@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 8:42:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4791385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:42:53 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66Cgr2S029983 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:42:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B2CC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 8:42:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200507061242.j66Cgr2S029983@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:42:52 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Followup was Re: More Pics To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:37:59 -0400, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >... at 2:30 am, in fact. That's when I got a call from >my mother: "your father's going to the emergency room and he's >driving himself. I'm going with him. His hand hurts." ... > True to form, he had managed to let his hand swell >dramatically (it looked like a snowmobile glove, and about that far >down the wrist) on the theory that "it might get better if he soaked >it". V again showed himself to be a gem, insisting on driving me to >the hospital in case I'd need to take Mom home if he was admitted - >which he wasn't; he was only there for about 4-5 hours, including >wait times, IV antibiotics, and x-rays (did I mention a penicillin >allergy?). However, he was hurting , which is saying something. > > Just to let y'all know, Dad went to Dr. appt for followup yesterday, and I went along just to be nosy, but the Dr. took one look and sent him to hospital admitting. He'll be in at least 3 days on a cocktail of antibiotics. Fun for him! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 08:29:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66DT0Jr018361 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:29:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:29:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B2CEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 9:29:00 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4795418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:29:00 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66DT0op005404 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:29:00 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 09:29:00 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 09:28:25 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: like a fish Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU An Israeli Inventor has developed a breathing apparatus that will allow breathing underwater without the assistance of compressed air tanks. http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/310505_tech.htm or http://tinyurl.com/asbc7 BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 08:30:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66DUTJr018576 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:30:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:30:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B2DFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 9:30:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4795569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:30:26 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66DUPoD005776 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:30:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so553472nzf for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr1673990nzt; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:30:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=V+qH7mrW5X1RbwkdiU9b4QQ8+R8NJldOXD6cbZPfKAaFMSnupyegmSsUIwh6NDoU8k9xTczoo2/eMd+qiX+spzrdeA/ZPFGdvA1HCd8mPAXK0aJfffSkProMStJ8safoueH7KoqpDGIGdT6PKWMfGbEJSXkm+pDztEaL/hkFr0Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070606303212cb7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:30:25 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: like a fish In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j66DUQoD005777 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I want one! On 7/6/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > An Israeli Inventor has developed a breathing apparatus that will allow > breathing underwater without the assistance of compressed air tanks. > > http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/310505_tech.htm > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/asbc7 > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 08:43:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66DheJr020094 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:43:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:43:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B2D63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 9:43:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4796904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:43:40 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66Dhdu6008060 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:43:40 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070615415309833 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:41:53 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:43:38 +0200 Message-ID: <42CBE00A.9000609@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:43:38 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: like a fish References: <8ddfc8a705070606303212cb7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070606303212cb7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 13:43:38.0704 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6CFCD00:01C58230] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 06.07.2005 15:30: >I want one! > >On 7/6/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >>An Israeli Inventor has developed a breathing apparatus that will allow >>breathing underwater without the assistance of compressed air tanks. >> >>http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/310505_tech.htm >> >> >> So do I! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 08:49:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66DnjJr020857 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:49:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:49:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B2D8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 9:49:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4797974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:49:45 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66DniMI010472 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:49:44 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so535873nzf for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.42 with SMTP id u42mr1846497nzg; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:49:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TtEqiA0SH7EpweV7llRqN4BrJaPxyrj5a+DtwcCqKZjFpsPmulf4mWzVtBBHqdkxnYMiLg+pZgx7jtxyiqVT0q3N0pqtv7ktftO5EX1eQDRgGD5Dn/Wqim0LO/2Kc/OlmWMnuGN7kPzmhOcfX6nXHxVT/WrDoPxldJf9n3hwFes= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:49:44 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: po/bonnie In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j66DnjMI010473 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > at the po, no one had any suggestions for me other than change of > address or forwarding of everything - neither of which make any sense. But change of address brings such delightful coupons -- our local supermarket sent us a $5-off-anything coupon to encourage us to come in. I'm thinking of changing my address monthly now! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 09:23:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66EN9Jr024240 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:23:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 09:23:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B2FD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4799927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:47 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66E6kjQ014698 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:46 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:06:46 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:06:35 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: It was fun seeing you all... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 'Glad to have had a part in accomodating you BrP >>> awild@URI.EDU 07/06/05 10:02 AM >>> ... in Syracuse. 'Good to meet Vance. Larry and Betty, you always look so good together; a real handsome couple. Larry, I managed to find some BB and #1 shot for my new toy. It's kind'a like a 12 gauge on OO. Not that bad, but I wouldn't want to shoot it all day long. ;-) Now... where did those wascally chipmunks git to... Natalie, thanks for the smoke offer, but I had to go for the camel. My brother Ric (a Mormon) says that the grave pic'ing you're doing is a great genealogical resource. I guess a picture tells a thousand words. Please recall the mentioning lighting & shadows to bring out the text on the stones. Maybe a nice bright light on a tripod would be useful equipment. Paul and Clo, thanks for a nice time! 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 09:23:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66EN9Jr024238 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:23:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 09:23:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B2EDE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:02:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4799434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:02:52 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66E2qQm013712 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:02:52 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j66E2qvT019733 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:02:52 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66E2hcq016718 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:02:44 -0400 Message-ID: <09ed01c58233$620f4cc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: It was fun seeing you all... Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:02:43 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ... in Syracuse. 'Good to meet Vance. Larry and Betty, you always look so good together; a real handsome couple. Larry, I managed to find some BB and #1 shot for my new toy. It's kind'a like a 12 gauge on OO. Not that bad, but I wouldn't want to shoot it all day long. ;-) Now... where did those wascally chipmunks git to... Natalie, thanks for the smoke offer, but I had to go for the camel. My brother Ric (a Mormon) says that the grave pic'ing you're doing is a great genealogical resource. I guess a picture tells a thousand words. Please recall the mentioning lighting & shadows to bring out the text on the stones. Maybe a nice bright light on a tripod would be useful equipment. Paul and Clo, thanks for a nice time! 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 09:40:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66EeVJr025924 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:40:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 09:40:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B31D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:40:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4803680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:40:31 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66EeUL9021243 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:40:30 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j66EeUvR021274 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:40:31 -0400 Received: from AWILD10T3V21 (AW.MIS.URI.EDU [131.128.122.7]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66EeAGs002221 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:40:11 -0400 Message-ID: <0a0301c58238$9d5797b0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: It was fun seeing you all... Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:40:10 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Barfoot" > 'Glad to have had a part in accomodating you > > BrP ;-) I actually surprised myself that I was able to give the kids direction with so few words. On average, my instructions come out in a frustratingly furious scramble of broken and restarted sentences, the curse of line-item micro-managing. Come to think of it... 'No wonder my boss seems so frustrated... 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 12:14:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66HDtJr013923 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:13:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:14:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B351A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:33:53 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4813134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:33:53 -0400 Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66GNqQn008161 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:23:52 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([82.44.219.28]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:24:35 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <79EC4893-66EB-4D03-9027-CDEB348D20DD@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roy Jaques Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:25:27 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 16:24:35.0061 (UTC) FILETIME=[3272F250:01C58247] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6 Jul 2005, at 13:17, Paul Barfoot wrote: > It's London in 2012 Yes, it's extremely unfortunate. I can hear them calculating the increase to my council tax at this moment. Everybody in London will have to pay more to subsidise the infrastructure around the East End when most people will not travel anywhere near the place. Then there is the fact that some bastard at British Airways has yet another excuse to try and expand Heathrow Airport. That is really going to affect me. > BrP If Paris or New York wants the Olympics, let them have them. Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 12:33:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66HXVJr016420 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:33:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:33:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B3602@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:33:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4818651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:33:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66HNTAn018089 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:23:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 86733 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Jul 2005 17:23:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:23:27 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted Message-ID: <20050706172327.GA83790@words-l.org> References: <79EC4893-66EB-4D03-9027-CDEB348D20DD@blueyonder.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <79EC4893-66EB-4D03-9027-CDEB348D20DD@blueyonder.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 05:25:27PM +0100, Roy Jaques wrote: > On 6 Jul 2005, at 13:17, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >It's London in 2012 > > Yes, it's extremely unfortunate. You are talking to people who consider it a supreme honor. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 13:00:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66HxlJr019430 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:59:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:00:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B3627@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:39:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4820095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:39:42 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66HdgnO020821 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:39:42 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:39:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:39:30 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That would be honour. I guess they have to have it somewhere. I'm just glad it's not New York. >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 07/06/05 1:23 PM >>> You are talking to people who consider it a supreme honor. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 13:00:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66HxlJr019431 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:59:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:00:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B36FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:44:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4820512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:44:52 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66HipgH021537 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:44:51 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so2703nzf for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.9 with SMTP id y9mr98205nzb; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:44:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=oMvjGOEFJ5sXyrPWWzNKE0sFa0uw4VjtKXddLzAqOmmC3afWjIJF9mCoz8r3O0Po5GbdT30y0/wAQh2NuSRph8U9PUaVTojKxRJh88PNvAq7hP+ZzLTPhy63leEYAXTX0rMhjoDWjkWk/Kg+3TnsBq2RQBaYxy8HHbAzOzJ8Uu4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:44:51 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: HB, DL! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j66HiqgH021538 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 13:00:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66HxlJr019435 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:59:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:00:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B3667@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:50:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4821020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:50:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66HoQR6022495 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:50:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so2318nzh for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.14 with SMTP id j14mr1737171nzj; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:50:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MfHI9i6j1/HJoNmt+SJgNecMWNsGIcOFXCgSzXt4EcshUGyoT1a1sfmmZNlRTmqwBGHi+QSCht0jroTi0gGSh7L/iudPuqdcGQwzKK4VMm5ZahdPTekywjFsplBwv5Ky0yGmM1JcdzGqixKBo0Bx80JUR1LmqLAT/CDW0KrICqQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070610504d59064b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:50:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j66HoQR6022496 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 70--born in 1935, became Dalai Lama in 1939. What a man! On 7/6/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > How old is he this time? > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/06/05 1:44 PM >>> > Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at > heart. > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 13:00:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66HxlJr019434 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:59:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:00:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B3552@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:47:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4820814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:47:32 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66HlV31022009 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:47:32 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:47:31 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:47:23 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: HB, DL! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How old is he this time? BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/06/05 1:44 PM >>> Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 13:43:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66IhHJr025603 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:43:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:43:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B37B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:23:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4823476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:23:17 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66INGsL027799 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:23:16 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:23:16 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:22:45 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Deep Impact Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU - the movie. I always get annoyed when I see some sci fi thing that includes a loud noise when something explodes in space. Even so, when I see this: http://www.nasa.gov/mov/121527main_MRI_impact.mov I can't stop myself from thinking "boom" BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 13:56:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66IuUJr027405 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:56:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:56:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.010005D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:56:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4825564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:56:30 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66IkSJI032202 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:46:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 23805 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Jul 2005 18:46:26 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:46:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! Message-ID: <20050706184626.GA23625@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:44:51PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. Please! What a revolting idea From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 14:07:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66J7cJr029081 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:07:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:07:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B3877@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:57:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4825677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:57:34 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66IlU86032465 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:47:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 24300 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Jul 2005 18:47:28 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:47:28 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted Message-ID: <20050706184728.GB23625@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 01:39:30PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > That would be honour. ROLFOM > I guess they have to have it somewhere. I'm just glad it's not New > York. Why? > >>> whore@WORDS-L.ORG 07/06/05 1:23 PM >>> > > You are talking to people who consider it a supreme honor. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 14:07:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66J7cJr029080 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:07:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:07:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B3890@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:02:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4826660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:02:18 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66J2I9i002206 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:02:18 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 14so10947nzn for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.7 with SMTP id m7mr38479nzm; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:02:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=X15p5zhhjLool+OpiRjqI9Bp9ghMMpES7t3V6sPrqasXsEvlrC3NzKARsLVja6X0ePlw+OTPdqR/EI2zE/8pEaXgijX9ZyKijHc7wr/kz6TdLsJhk2+KCCXMm4AcR5LiHnocnXT/6FGD0Y3gKJk2zhHuQzHZVOf+LTI31IncE3g= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507061202161a1a1b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:02:18 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! In-Reply-To: <20050706184626.GA23625@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> <20050706184626.GA23625@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j66J2I9i002207 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/6/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:44:51PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. > > Please! What a revolting idea Okay, is this better? "Happy Birthday, dear Shrublet, I know you are just a Wordsler at heart...." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 14:44:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66JhwJr001558 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:43:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:44:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B399D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:43:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4829055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:43:58 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66JXh5d007325 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:33:43 -0400 Received: (qmail 46740 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Jul 2005 19:33:41 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:33:41 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! Message-ID: <20050706193341.GA45841@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> <20050706184626.GA23625@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a70507061202161a1a1b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70507061202161a1a1b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 02:02:18PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > On 7/6/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:44:51PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > > Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. > > > > Please! What a revolting idea > > Okay, is this better? > > "Happy Birthday, dear Shrublet, I know you are just a Wordsler at heart...." Fine by me ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 15:17:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66KGnJr005759 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:16:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:17:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B3AD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:06:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4832063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:06:49 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66K6mdm012607 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:06:49 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-29.gwi.net [216.195.163.29]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j66K6gSa085690; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:06:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706155137.01c06450@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:52:05 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Deep Impact In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:22 PM 7/6/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >- the movie. > >I always get annoyed when I see some sci fi thing that includes a loud >noise when something explodes in space. Even so, when I see this: > >http://www.nasa.gov/mov/121527main_MRI_impact.mov > >I can't stop myself from thinking "boom" I keep getting a blank screen. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 15:17:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66KGnJr005760 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:16:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:17:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B3929@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:09:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4832194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:09:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66K9Tdk012991 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:09:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so17378nzo for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.43.4 with SMTP id q4mr61168nzq; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:09:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Nv0s2PYtMvrE9CgNqK0jadZcfGwQAJARJj1KYN7q38wO0pWP56sXTxK2wa0158yQ3mlQiG44Yl1706jY8JNHd9SMBo1bs7HpodVCkWiVOuOnIV/KqfLKeGGMww1TNmAZW6An7H1IoRbj5zYcWwkkT+mdQuqu2odo5BOJ6kV+O+M= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070613097a5278db@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:09:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Deep Impact In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706155137.01c06450@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706155137.01c06450@pop.gwi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j66K9Udk012993 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's a Quicktime movie--you need the right software. On 7/6/05, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 02:22 PM 7/6/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >- the movie. > > > >I always get annoyed when I see some sci fi thing that includes a loud > >noise when something explodes in space. Even so, when I see this: > > > >http://www.nasa.gov/mov/121527main_MRI_impact.mov > > > >I can't stop myself from thinking "boom" > > I keep getting a blank screen. > > cwv > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 15:24:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66KOXJr006763 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:24:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:24:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B3969@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:24:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4833141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:24:33 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66KOWvm015020 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:24:32 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so31111rnf for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.11.2 with SMTP id 2mr118508rnk; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.97.54 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:24:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OraWvvC6bIqa8X6QtRin5231uOk6rzuSwkwt4NLUg6HgYm1OpjfAiuqhjtRxyMDU759XqUAlDnG0S/72DiEUNdIYxouXqAGHat8iOgCl4FXnXQliPD3Z6ox8/wMWckOeqMdSgTklNiKg3T5WL5B8YJlh7Zd6YFvBz/lVmESvIuM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:24:32 -0400 From: Tony Harminc Reply-To: Tony Harminc To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j66KOXvm015021 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > I guess they have to have it somewhere. I'm just glad it's not New York. Toronto lost out on the 1996 games, so we had Torondezvous '96 instead. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 15:27:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66KRZJr007015 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:27:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:27:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B397F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:27:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4833504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:27:34 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66KRYEN015633 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:27:34 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l8so19139nzf for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.10 with SMTP id j10mr68844nzj; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:27:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T93QwsV0LkkZKwHMMIh2QGyFI3f1F49TdG2I1LEosGB3HMMYUgxBSW/0IueXXZlusvu7duKAd+R8Jpjly5WZz6EQI6JWZgtc/HRkmJM2ebv+TodfjkLfSuH8XitUSNvKErMzzpjsrgCDIn1rxzCRHi3hUwhiyYgawoLiZtt8VzY= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070613271b7e7632@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:27:34 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j66KRYEN015638 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/6/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > I guess they have to have it somewhere. I'm just glad it's not New York. > > Toronto lost out on the 1996 games, so we had Torondezvous '96 instead. Does this mean we're going to Paris? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 15:40:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66KdqJr009048 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:39:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:40:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B3988@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:29:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4833646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:29:48 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66KTmqo015924 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:29:48 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:29:48 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:29:14 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU or Moscow, or Madrid, or New York >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/06/05 4:27 PM >>> On 7/6/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > I guess they have to have it somewhere. I'm just glad it's not New York. > > Toronto lost out on the 1996 games, so we had Torondezvous '96 instead. Does this mean we're going to Paris? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 15:58:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66KwfJr010940 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:58:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:58:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B3A24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:58:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4835806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:58:31 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66KwUjX020454 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:58:30 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j66KwTwg022938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:58:29 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j66KwTQL022936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:58:29 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:58:29 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! Message-ID: <20050706205829.GA22902@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:44:51PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. = = Karen I could ask my cousin to sign him up... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 16:12:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66LCfJr012798 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:12:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:12:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01000B4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:12:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4837386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:12:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66LCd5c022775 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:12:40 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id q3so23281nzb for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.27 with SMTP id t27mr58895nzg; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:12:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=V7kMUjm7RqDAaew56EpN31C3rtS8It8sJ7g3lGsYgD7JEjtZeSStBzsXJy2eZsODnEX+/G3ystQh0n8v9YS42TIlYXAEKD5Qb3N2k8dK8XnKhrGNTPna0PZoxFrwY/lpJaJQv0FKkDrAB2Ub7+w/igcXNBLy1xllf/Gwppfglvs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050706141271736e93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:12:39 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! In-Reply-To: <20050706205829.GA22902@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> <20050706205829.GA22902@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j66LCe5c022776 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/6/05, steph wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:44:51PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. > = > = Karen > > I could ask my cousin to sign him up... Your cousin?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 16:30:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66LUSJr014976 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:30:30 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:30:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B3C35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:30:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4837940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:30:28 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66LKSbx023691 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:20:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 94560 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Jul 2005 21:20:26 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:20:26 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! Message-ID: <20050706212026.GA89076@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> <20050706205829.GA22902@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706205829.GA22902@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 10:58:29PM +0200, steph wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:44:51PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > = Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. > = > = Karen > > I could ask my cousin to sign him up... Ha! And Natalie's BIL can sign up "Shrublet". We'll see who unsubs last From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 16:47:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66Ll2Jr016960 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:47:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:47:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B3C7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:47:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4840296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:47:02 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66Ll1Lb027897 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:47:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so26313nzb for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.221.27 with SMTP id t27mr64231nzg; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:47:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZexGxyHO/n6T/Fz9WFOg7fxGNEOwa105Zcl4wS+xZmCpjxATT9Ador2yOeycjqtUkhHhHjfTnJXQnsRQDj8LlBKfcPoA2XlZnpSHDAKKjoYAUDiMLKyJSMNc02jJ1+qFR0RBImYMbW0XaefbN5hRrTOjTB/rLp70MBoe3kPZyIw= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050706144761758931@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:47:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! In-Reply-To: <20050706212026.GA89076@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> <20050706205829.GA22902@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050706212026.GA89076@words-l.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j66Ll1Lb027898 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU RRB, SIL. No BIL. On 7/6/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 10:58:29PM +0200, steph wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:44:51PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > = Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. > > = > > = Karen > > > > I could ask my cousin to sign him up... > > Ha! And Natalie's BIL can sign up "Shrublet". > > We'll see who unsubs last > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 17:21:37 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66MLOJr021546 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:21:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:21:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B3C0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:21:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4841696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:21:23 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66MBMhA030722 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:11:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 16921 invoked by uid 1003); 6 Jul 2005 22:11:20 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:11:20 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! Message-ID: <20050706221120.GA16215@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> <20050706205829.GA22902@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050706212026.GA89076@words-l.org> <8ddfc8a7050706144761758931@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050706144761758931@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Those who know they have lost resort to hairsplitting ... On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 04:47:01PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > RRB, SIL. > > No BIL. > > On 7/6/05, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 10:58:29PM +0200, steph wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:44:51PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > > = Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. > > > = > > > = Karen > > > > > > I could ask my cousin to sign him up... > > > > Ha! And Natalie's BIL can sign up "Shrublet". > > > > We'll see who unsubs last From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 18:14:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j66NE9Jr028181 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:14:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:14:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B3DD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:53:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4843798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:53:55 -0400 Received: from malaysia.net ([221.197.34.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66Mh5XX001764 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:43:53 -0400 Received: from kellychen.com (kellychen-com.mr.outblaze.com [205.158.62.181]) by malaysia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C193632D96 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:41:58 -0500 From: US NMA To: Words Subject: The United States National Medical Association Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:41:58 -0500 Message-ID: <011001c58252$4009a190$48890829@kellychen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1082 X-AntiVirus: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 21:49:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j672nBJr021366 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:49:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:49:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B41FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:49:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4853009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:49:10 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j672nAtL025306 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:49:10 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.215.202]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707024910.KGOZ29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:49:10 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.215.202]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707024910.RREM11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:49:10 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC9823.6030208@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:49:07 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom memorial service References: <42BC8C91.7040302@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I am leaving this morning on the trip. Excellent. The whole time I was driving through Kentucky yesterday (west of Lexington), I was hating that the memorial service hadn't been scheduled for a day earlier. Even earlier on the same day would have made it borderline possible for me to be there. Now I wish that I had just said screw-it and canceled appointments in Jackson for Friday, though at least one was almost unreschedulable. It wasn't just while driving through Kentucky that I was hating the timing. I've hated it all along. I had thought about going to the service and then driving all night, but I knew that was insane since I can't see to drive on highways after dark. I then had a brilliant idea of finding flights from Jackson to Lexington and back that would enable me to fly there tomorrow morning and return in the middle of the night. No luck. I guess that kind of thing might be possible between two major cities, but not between cities the size of Jackson and Lexington. There were no middle-of-the-night flights. So here I am in Jackson, wanting to be in Lexington -- or at least wanting to be there tomorrow. I will for sure be there in spirit. > Then I will head south toward Cincinnati (about a 3 hour drive from > Bowling Green). Tonight I will stay with Janice's mom near Covington, > KY. I am happy to report that yesterday was my first ever time to drive through Cincinatti when it wasn't raining. > At this writing, I still don't know where the service is being held, > but I > believe it is at the UK campus or nearby, and that I will be able to make > contact with someone connected with the event at the UK library. Steph is the answer!! She said she would take you to it. But I bet you're not reading list mail now and thus won't see this. I also bet, however, that you will find the place. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 21:56:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j672uKJr022054 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:56:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:56:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B4170@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:56:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4853395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:56:18 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j672uIQY025967 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:56:18 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.215.202]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707025618.KKLO29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:56:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.215.202]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707025618.RSVR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:56:18 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC99D0.1020106@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:56:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted References: <42CBCC70.7010602@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42CBCC70.7010602@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > But the annual conference which led me to Victoria BC this year is at > the Sorbonne July 4-9 next year. Maybe there could be a Words-l French > Fest? I'll go! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:09:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6738lJr023559 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:08:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:09:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B4188@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:58:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4853614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:58:46 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j672wkQA026145 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:58:46 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.215.202]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707025846.KLSH29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:58:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.215.202]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707025846.RTKU11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:58:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC9A64.4000304@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:58:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Followup was Re: More Pics References: <200507061242.j66Cgr2S029983@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200507061242.j66Cgr2S029983@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Just to let y'all know, Dad went to Dr. appt for followup yesterday, >and I went along just to be nosy, but the Dr. took one look and >sent him to hospital admitting. He'll be in at least 3 days on a cocktail >of antibiotics. Fun for him! > > Ugh. I wish he'd been at the fest. I've liked him ever since you first talked about him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:09:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6738lJr023555 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:08:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:09:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B41E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:01:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4854532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:01:19 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6731GWk026732 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:01:16 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.215.202]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707030116.KMWM29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:01:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.215.202]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707030116.RTXI11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:01:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC9AFA.9070509@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:01:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: po/bonnie References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >But change of address brings such delightful coupons -- our local > > Something I've found interesting since my move is how catalogues and stuff have followed me here -- things that weren't forwarded but that mysteriously found out where I was. I also get lots of junk mail addressed to my mother since my MSU address was her address for most things during the last months of her life. That mail now comes to this address. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:09:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6738lJs023559 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:09:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:09:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B41CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:05:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4856598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:05:12 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67359x7027617 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:05:10 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24924568 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:04:09 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:04:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:04:03 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1383974140.20050706210403@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Morefest In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050705113818857e42@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050705113818857e42@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 248, in=90273, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Nope, no family reunions scheduled at present. One was talked about this year, but nothing so far for next year. dan 7/5/2005, 12:38 PM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Seattle? Boise (but I think Dan goes to a family AFoA> reunion over the AFoA> 4th). Who else is NW? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:09:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6738lJs023560 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:09:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:09:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B4206@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:07:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:07:16 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6737GCB027941 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:07:16 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.215.202]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707030716.KQGY29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:07:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.215.202]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707030715.RVAY11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:07:15 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC9C62.3090609@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:07:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It was fun seeing you all... References: <09ed01c58233$620f4cc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <09ed01c58233$620f4cc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > My > brother Ric (a Mormon) says that the grave pic'ing you're doing is a > great > genealogical resource. Snot just me. Lots of people are doing it. But I agree that it's a great genealogical resource. It makes me feel good to upload tombstones of dead strangers, thinking that somebody somewhere might be happy to find the pictures. I've got a bundle of them to upload from the trip -- did a few as I went along, thanks to Microtel's excellent connectivity, but still have bunches and bunches to do. Re pics, I have a good one of Aaron I'm going to send you, clo. It's of Aaron and Bryan at the computer. In deference to his wishes, I did not put it online. It's still on the card of the old camera -- will poke that card in tomorrow, I hope. > I guess a picture tells a thousand words. Please > recall the mentioning lighting & shadows to bring out the text on the > stones. Maybe a nice bright light on a tripod would be useful equipment. That sounds way complicated. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:09:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6738lJr023557 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:09:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:09:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B41CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:05:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4856565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:05:10 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67359x5027617 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:05:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24924496 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:03:12 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:03:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:03:07 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <87273917.20050706210307@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Morefest In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 248, in=90272, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/5/2005, 12:25 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> did PB> talk about it a little PB> and had the vague notion of a Northwest US PB> location Sounds good to this NW dood. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:09:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6738lJs023555 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:09:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:09:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B431A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:01 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67390nH028137 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:00 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24925003 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:09:16 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:09:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:09:11 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <263920594.20050706210911@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 248, in=90274, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/6/2005, 6:17 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> It's London in 2012 Thank goodness. I'm wondering how much Chirac's faux pas did to help make the decision, especially from the Finns. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:09:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6738lJr023561 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:08:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:09:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B41A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:04:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4856254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:04:27 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (s4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6734Pk8027465 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:04:26 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24682670 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:30:59 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:04:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:04:36 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <776598032.20050706210436@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Morefest In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 250, in=91963, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, if it were in Seattle, Portland is only a couple or three hours away. 7/5/2005, 12:43 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> I was pushing for Portland so I could combine it PB> with a visit to the PB> future grandkid but I don't think we have any PB> Portlanders who are PB> currently active. We'll have to do some PB> recruiting From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:09:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6738lJr023560 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:08:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:09:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B421C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:02:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4854989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:02:03 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (s3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67322qo026930 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:02:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24828350 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:15:42 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:02:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:02:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1452909151.20050706210212@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: bigger than a breadbox In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 251, in=104675, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, other than perhaps the coffee table, those all seem pretty similar in size to me. Of course no idea why they couldn't just give the approx measurements (even in metric if they preferred) dan 7/5/2005, 10:49 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> The impactor that got in the way of Tempel 1 is PB> described in various PB> news stories as the size of a coffee table, a PB> barrel, an armchair, and a PB> washing machine. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:19:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673JiJr024490 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:19:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:19:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B4211@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:37 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6739aug028186 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:36 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.215.202]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707030936.KRPI29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.215.202]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707030936.RVOK11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC9CEE.4040208@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:09:34 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: It was fun seeing you all... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >'Glad to have had a part in accomodating you > > :-) What happened on clo's porch stays on clo's porch. But has Karen leaped upon you yet for the missing m in accommodating? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:19:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673JnJr024505 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:19:50 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:19:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B421E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:11:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:11:59 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (s3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j673BvNB028406 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:11:58 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24829128 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:25:39 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:12:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:12:08 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <119408274.20050706211208@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 251, in=104679, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/6/2005, 11:44 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is AFoA> just a Wordsler at heart. And who will be in Sun Valley for several days over Labor Day. Already preparing for vast numbers showing up for his talks, etc. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:20:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673JiJs024490 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:19:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:19:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B43DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:12:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:12:58 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j673Cw0Y028515 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:12:58 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.215.202]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707031258.KTJZ29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:12:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.215.202]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707031257.RWGG11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:12:57 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC9DB8.9080208@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:12:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >Toronto lost out on the 1996 games, so we had Torondezvous '96 instead. > > And a far better event it was! I was telling Betty and Larry the other day about Roy as the stray student who had hooked up with us -- how I believed that for a while. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:20:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673JmJr024501 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:19:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:20:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B432F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:15:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:15:02 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j673F1oa028688 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:15:01 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24925543 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:15:17 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:15:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:15:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1145793734.20050706211512@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: po/bonnie In-Reply-To: <42CC9AFA.9070509@maynor.net> References: <42CC9AFA.9070509@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 248, in=90278, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/6/2005, 9:01 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Something I've found interesting since my move is NM> how catalogues and NM> stuff have followed me here -- things that NM> weren't forwarded but that NM> mysteriously found out where I was. Many catalogs have a marking on them that says something like "Postmaster send Form 3649 to the publisher". Which is basically a change of address form that is sent to them, at the publisher's expense (something like the expense of business reply mail) dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:20:09 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673JmJr024496 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:19:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:20:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B4213@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:48 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (s3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6739keW028203 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:09:47 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24828956 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:23:28 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:10:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:09:57 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18485086.20050706210957@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: <42CBD18F.2050801@gmail.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706082113.01bf74d0@pop.gwi.net> <42CBD18F.2050801@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 251, in=104678, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/6/2005, 6:41 AM, Espen S. Ore wrote: ESO> But at least he could joke about British food: ESO> http://www.itn.co.uk/news/1869604.html I don't think the Brits or the Finns took it as a joke..... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:20:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673JnJs024505 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:19:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:20:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B4226@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:15:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:15:39 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j673FdBR028749 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:15:39 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.215.202]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707031538.KUOD29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:15:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.215.202]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707031538.RWUS11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:15:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC9E58.6020304@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:15:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >or Moscow, or Madrid, or New York > > But where did Toronto fall in the deletions of '96? Was it #2? If so, Paris is the answer. Will leave the garbage below because top-postings make it too much trouble to edit it out. > > >>>>innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/06/05 4:27 PM >>> >>>> >>>> >On 7/6/05, Tony Harminc wrote: > > >>Paul Barfoot wrote: >> >> >> >>>I guess they have to have it somewhere. I'm just glad it's not New >>> >>> >York. > > >>Toronto lost out on the 1996 games, so we had Torondezvous '96 >> >> >instead. > >Does this mean we're going to Paris? > >Karen > > > > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:20:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673JnJr024504 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:20:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:20:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B43EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:18:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:18:43 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j673IgVS029138 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:18:42 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.215.202]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707031842.KVUQ29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:18:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.215.202]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707031842.RXKM11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:18:42 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC9F10.2090601@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:18:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> <20050706205829.GA22902@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20050706212026.GA89076@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20050706212026.GA89076@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>= Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. >>= >> >>I could ask my cousin to sign him up... >> >> > >Ha! And Natalie's BIL can sign up "Shrublet". > > A friend of mine in Starkville knows the DL, so I could ask her to sign him up and also ask my RRB to sign up the Shrublet, though my RRB wouldn't know how to tell him since he doesn't do computers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:23:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673NHJr024906 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:23:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:23:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B43EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:23:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:23:17 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j673MvKX029582 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:22:57 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01001556@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:22:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200507070322.j673MvKX029582@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:22:57 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: update - Dad's hand To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's staph. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:26:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673Q5Jr025222 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:26:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:26:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.010012DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:26:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4852378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:26:05 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j672Q3i0022675 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:26:03 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j672Q1CI001734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:26:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:26:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Tony Harminc wrote: > Toronto lost out on the 1996 games, so we had Torondezvous '96 instead. A Toronto city planner, explaining his lack of enthusiasm for Toronto's bid, said that hosting the Olympics is "an invited crisis." Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:26:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673Q5Jr025223 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:26:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:26:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01001495@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:05:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4856561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:05:09 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (s4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67358xB027613 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:05:08 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24682725 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:31:41 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:05:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:05:18 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <95298103.20050706210518@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Morefest In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 250, in=91964, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/5/2005, 1:03 PM, Paul Barfoot wrote: PB> the other suggestion was Arizona PB> but then perhaps it souldn't be in July Well, rates are down then, at least in the Phx and Tucson areas. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 6 22:26:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j673Q5Jr025224 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:26:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:26:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01001566@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:21:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4857630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:21:02 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j673L0N7029393 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:21:00 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01001517@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:20:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200507070321.j673L0N7029393@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:21:00 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: It was fun seeing you all... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:07:14 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Re pics, I have a good one of Aaron I'm going to send you, clo. It's of >Aaron and Bryan at the computer. In deference to his wishes, I did not >put it online. It's still on the card of the old camera -- will poke >that card in tomorrow, I hope. Thanks. As you may guess, I have all too few pictures of him. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 00:29:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j675TEJr008168 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:29:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:29:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B454F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 1:15:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4863078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:15:38 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j675Fbqt006740; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:15:38 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 118188074; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:15:36 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050706221634.0268e5f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:17:18 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: update - Dad's hand In-Reply-To: <200507070322.j673MvKX029582@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507070322.j673MvKX029582@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:22 PM 7/6/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >It's staph. >clo Glad he is getting antibiotics right away. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 00:29:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j675TEJr008166 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:29:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:29:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B4437@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 1:09:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4862896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:09:13 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6759CJl006119; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:09:13 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 118186180; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:09:11 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050706221009.02689d60@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:10:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad Grissom memorial service In-Reply-To: References: <42BC8C91.7040302@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:10 AM 7/6/2005, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>LarryK: Are you definitely going to make it to Brad's memorial >>service? I've studied the calendar and realized that it would be >>*extremely* complicated for me to arrange things so that I could be in >>Lexington late afternoon of the 7th. But it would be terrible (imho) if >>there was no Wordsler presence. I hope you are going to be there! > >I am leaving this morning on the trip. I'm so glad you are able to do this, Larry. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 00:29:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j675TEJr008167 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:29:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:29:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B4547@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 1:13:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4863018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:13:04 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j675D3Cm006498; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:13:03 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe1.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 118187291; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:13:02 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050706221200.02616330@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:14:43 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: It was fun seeing you all... In-Reply-To: <09ed01c58233$620f4cc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> References: <09ed01c58233$620f4cc0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:02 AM 7/6/2005, Alan Wild wrote: >... in Syracuse. > >'Good to meet Vance. > >Larry and Betty, you always look so good together; a real handsome couple. >Larry, I managed to find some BB and #1 shot for my new toy. It's kind'a >like a 12 gauge on OO. Not that bad, but I wouldn't want to shoot it all >day long. ;-) Now... where did those wascally chipmunks git to... > >Natalie, thanks for the smoke offer, but I had to go for the camel. My >brother Ric (a Mormon) says that the grave pic'ing you're doing is a great >genealogical resource. I guess a picture tells a thousand words. Please >recall the mentioning lighting & shadows to bring out the text on the >stones. Maybe a nice bright light on a tripod would be useful equipment. > >Paul and Clo, thanks for a nice time! > >'Alan It was the best and Vance is a sweetheart! I'm glad you were all able to stop by and it's fun to see the children as they grow. Lots of people smoke in Syracuse. What's up with that? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 02:20:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j677K0Jr022406 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:20:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:20:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B45C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 3:19:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4867028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:19:59 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j677JwEk021517 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:19:59 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070709181211062 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:18:12 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:19:57 +0200 Message-ID: <42CCD79D.5070101@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:19:57 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted References: <263920594.20050706210911@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <263920594.20050706210911@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 07:19:57.0778 (UTC) FILETIME=[47AF0320:01C582C4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester skrev 07.07.2005 05:09: >7/6/2005, 6:17 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >PB> It's London in 2012 > >Thank goodness. I'm wondering how much Chirac's faux pas did to help >make the decision, especially from the Finns. > > > Because Finnish food isn't much better than British? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 03:17:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j678HFJr031056 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:17:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:17:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B47EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 4:17:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4868366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 04:17:15 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (h8441134057.dsl.speedlinq.nl [84.41.134.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j678HEwV029463 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 04:17:14 -0400 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (stevie@yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j678HDFL026495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:17:13 +0200 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j678HCnV026493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:17:12 +0200 From: stevie@multinix.com Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:17:12 +0200 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! Message-ID: <20050707081712.GA26378@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> <20050706205829.GA22902@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a7050706141271736e93@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050706141271736e93@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 04:12:39PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = On 7/6/05, steph wrote: = > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:44:51PM -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: = > = Happy Birthday to the Dalai Lama, who I know is just a Wordsler at heart. = > = = > = Karen = > = > I could ask my cousin to sign him up... = = Your cousin?! My cousin works for the Dalai Lama. Officially she works for the International Campaign for Tibet. I don't know what else all her job entails but I do know that frequently she's the one who has to make sure he gets on the plane. We've done this before. It's why I'm a 2 to a lot of people and a 3 to just about anybody who's anybody. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 05:24:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67AOZJr016786 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 05:24:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 05:24:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B48BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 6:04:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4872136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:04:27 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67A4Qwt008467 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:04:26 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c3so69425nze for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr184968nzd; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:04:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gX5JKma40L/Zb2T5L5FMJ9JjZAmTwndj/7mvViA2HJxuY9zpcbR8JPFcHq6p44ZmG/V3ys/oGvR1VzAvCNKxXNAjwvsVb2+z6uRFmKnuL0KAPj84dYazQdV7ZHL0PmBbCUf8CJfIM2EU5OiDbBTuTy+q1lRm6Qs7BK/QZb3oBYs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507070304f1769e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 05:04:26 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HB, DL! In-Reply-To: <20050707081712.GA26378@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a7050706104414ae4c67@mail.gmail.com> <20050706205829.GA22902@yoccoz.multinix.com> <8ddfc8a7050706141271736e93@mail.gmail.com> <20050707081712.GA26378@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67A4Rwt008469 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/7/05, steph wrote: > My cousin works for the Dalai Lama. Officially she works for the > International Campaign for Tibet. I don't know what else all her job entails > but I do know that frequently she's the one who has to make sure he gets > on the plane. > > We've done this before. It's why I'm a 2 to a lot of people and a 3 to > just about anybody who's anybody. Why do I have no memory of this? Am I repressing it out of jealousy? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 07:15:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67CF6Jr031507 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:15:09 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:15:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01001F3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 8:15:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4878181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:15:06 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67CF6NK016380 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:15:06 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01001F00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 8:15:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200507071215.j67CF6NK016380@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:15:06 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: HB, DL! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 05:04:26 -0500, A Friend of Andy wrote: >On 7/7/05, steph wrote: >> My cousin works for the Dalai Lama. Officially she works for the >> International Campaign for Tibet. I don't know what else all her job entails >> but I do know that frequently she's the one who has to make sure he gets >> on the plane. >> >> We've done this before. It's why I'm a 2 to a lot of people and a 3 to >> just about anybody who's anybody. > >Why do I have no memory of this? Am I repressing it out of jealousy? > >Karen Bien sur! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 07:33:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67CX4Jr001797 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:33:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:33:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01001F68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 8:33:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4879130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:33:04 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67CX0ld019163 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:33:00 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.32]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707123300.QNGS29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:33:00 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.32]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707123259.UGGO11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:32:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD20FA.7030309@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:32:58 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Att: clo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I haven't added most of the graves yet, but here's the cemetery where some of your kin are, the cemetery I mistook for the one you were telling me about in Auburn: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1808862&CScn=north+street&CSst=36& -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 07:40:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67CejJr002865 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:40:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:40:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B49ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 8:30:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4879055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:30:45 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67CUjak018795 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:30:45 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.32]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707123045.QMAC29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:30:45 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.32]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707123044.UFOQ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:30:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:30:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Cemeteries as Travelogue Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When you submit a "cover picture" for a cemetery, it has to be approved by Findagrave (as opposed to the automatic acceptance of individual graves). The approval happens quickly, and you get e-mail saying the picture was approved and giving you the link to click on to see it. During my travels I went on and submitted the pictures of the many cemeteries I visited, with only one or two individual graves for each -- will add the rest of the graves soon, I hope. I left the stack of e-mail from Findagrave saying that the cover pictures had been accepted and just went through it looking at the pictures. It was a great travelogue! Some of the early cemeteries I had totally forgotten about, but memories came back when I looked at the pictures -- memories of stumbling upon the cemetery or of people I encountered cutting grass (or in the case of one yesterday a man spraying for bugs -- a good idea -- bugs like cemeteries) or of seeing a deer leap out from between tombstones or of making poor Betty and Larry stop still again to wander among tombstones or of the cute dog or of the Cornell policeman and his flashing light, etc. etc. These pictures brought back memories and also served as an itinerary, starting with the first one in Toomsuba, MS -- near the Alabama line -- and ending with one in Grenada yesterday. I moved from Toomsuba up to the Lookout Mountain area of north Alabama to one cemetery in the tiny piece of Georgia you go through between AL and TN on I-59 to Virginia to W. Virginia to Pennsylvania to various loopings in New York to Columbus, OH, to Kentucky to Tennessee to Mississippi. My usual routine was to look for a nearby cemetery when getting off the interestate to buy gas or eat lunch. I almost always found one. Occasionally I'd just hop off the interstate not needing to eat or buy gas, just to take a cemetery break. Unrelated to cemeteries: My poor fauna is withered. Not a drop of rain has fallen in weeks. I don't mind the dead grass, but I'm hoping that the water I dumped last night on the petunias and impatiens and tomatoes and stuff will resuscitate them. This is kind of funny given that I was watching the big box indicating flooding on the tv screen in the breakfast area of the Microtel near Nashville yesterday morning, talking to a construction worker beside me about my tomatoes needing water but that I hoped not to be driving through torrential rains. There was a big burst of a torrential downpour just as I was entering Memphis yesterday, blinding me at the worst possible moment -- when I needed to see the signs for moving from I-40 to the southern loop of 240. I'm not used to entering Memphis from that direction. I managed to make the turn ok, and then the blinding rain stopped. There were a few tiny bits of drizzle just south of Memphis, but that was it for rain. The tropical storm must have turned right immediately upon hitting land, leaving Jackson bone-dry. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 07:43:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67ChQJr003190 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:43:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:43:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002016@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 8:43:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4879896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:43:26 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67ChQLj021365 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:43:26 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01002002@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 8:43:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200507071243.j67ChQLj021365@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:43:26 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Att: clo To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:32:58 -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I haven't added most of the graves yet, but here's the cemetery where >some of your kin are, the cemetery I mistook for the one you were >telling me about in Auburn: > >http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi? page=cr&CRid=1808862&CScn=north+street&CSst=36& > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Thanks, Natalie! This is one of the graves in Fort Hill: http://tinyurl.com/7gypr clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 07:51:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67CpMJr004296 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:51:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:51:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0100204A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 8:51:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4881061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:51:22 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67CpMMQ023461 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:51:22 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-56.gwi.net [216.195.164.56]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j67CpH6O084402; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:51:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050707084901.01bdff18@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:51:14 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:26 PM 7/6/2005, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Tony Harminc wrote: > >>Toronto lost out on the 1996 games, so we had Torondezvous '96 instead. > >A Toronto city planner, explaining his lack of enthusiasm for Toronto's >bid, said that hosting the Olympics is "an invited crisis." A friend of ours, who at the time of the Atlanta Olympics was in charge of light rail development and operation, would heartily agree. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 07:54:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67CsYJr004784 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:54:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:54:44 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.010020FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 8:54:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4881968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:54:33 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67CsWqI024315 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:54:33 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:54:32 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:54:08 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Att: clo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 07/07/05 8:43 AM >>> Thanks, Natalie! This is one of the graves in Fort Hill: http://tinyurl.com/7gypr clo and this is another http://tinyurl.com/clle8 BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:18:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DI3Jr008514 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:18:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0100219D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 8:58:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4883509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:58:02 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Cw2hJ025450 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:58:02 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.010021EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 8:58:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200507071258.j67Cw2hJ025450@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:58:02 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:51:14 -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 10:26 PM 7/6/2005, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >>On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Tony Harminc wrote: >> >>>Toronto lost out on the 1996 games, so we had Torondezvous '96 instead. >> >>A Toronto city planner, explaining his lack of enthusiasm for Toronto's >>bid, said that hosting the Olympics is "an invited crisis." > >A friend of ours, who at the time of the Atlanta Olympics was in charge of >light rail development and operation, would heartily agree. > >cwv The bombings this am in London really underscore that, don't they? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:18:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DI3Jr008517 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:18:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0100276E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:13:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4892274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:06:47 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67D6lSr028027; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:06:47 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119330737; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:06:45 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:08:35 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:30 AM 7/7/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >When you submit a "cover picture" for a cemetery, it has to be approved >by Findagrave (as opposed to the automatic acceptance of individual >graves). The approval happens quickly, and you get e-mail saying the >picture was approved and giving you the link to click on to see it. >During my travels I went on and submitted the pictures of the many >cemeteries I visited, with only one or two individual graves for each -- >will add the rest of the graves soon, I hope. I left the stack of >e-mail from Findagrave saying that the cover pictures had been accepted >and just went through it looking at the pictures. It was a great >travelogue! Some of the early cemeteries I had totally forgotten about, >but memories came back when I looked at the pictures -- memories of >stumbling upon the cemetery or of people I encountered cutting grass (or >in the case of one yesterday a man spraying for bugs -- a good idea -- >bugs like cemeteries) or of seeing a deer leap out from between >tombstones or of making poor Betty and Larry stop still again to wander >among tombstones or of the cute dog or of the Cornell policeman and his >flashing light, etc. etc. Natalie, we really enjoyed visiting the cemeteries. It was always a nice break with excellent views. I've never had a policeman in front of me before with flashing lights. Larry started breaking when you weren't in the car when we came upon a cemetery! The one near Cornell was well worth the trip. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:18:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DI3Jr008518 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:18:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01002907@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:17:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4894453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:09:32 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67D9Vnh028653 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:09:31 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-56.gwi.net [216.195.164.56]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j67D9Rx2044822; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:09:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050707090252.01bf9220@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:09:23 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: <200507071258.j67Cw2hJ025450@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507071258.j67Cw2hJ025450@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:58 AM 7/7/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >The bombings this am in London really underscore that, don't they? Well, there are several possible reasons: 1. The G-8 meetings in the UK (Scotland); 2. The French, irate at losing the Olympics; 3. Al-Qaida, shifting emphasis to GB (they claim this, according to the article); 4. The French, irate at not being able to find brioche for breakfast. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:24:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DOOJr009371 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:24:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:24:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002B7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:24:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4899562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:23:33 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DNW2G031588; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:23:33 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119333548; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:23:32 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707062507.02613a90@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:25:21 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Att: clo In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70507070607cc1d05a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ddfc8a70507070607cc1d05a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wonder if that was average. At 06:07 AM 7/7/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: >She was my height! > >On 7/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 07/07/05 8:43 AM >>> > > Thanks, Natalie! > > > > This is one of the graves in Fort Hill: > > http://tinyurl.com/7gypr > > > > clo > > > > > > and this is another > > > > http://tinyurl.com/clle8 > > > > > > BrP > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:24:42 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DOZJr009411 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:24:36 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:24:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002B84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:24:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4899706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:24:34 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DOYdH031977; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:24:34 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119333708; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:24:33 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707062543.026677d0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:26:22 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Natalie, we really enjoyed visiting the cemeteries. It was always a nice >break with excellent views. I've never had a policeman in front of me >before with flashing lights. Larry started breaking when you weren't in >the car when we came upon a cemetery! Ooops, braking. Larry actually held up quite well. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:25:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DOvJr009516 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:24:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:25:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B5104@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:14:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4893040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:07:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67D7n2i028271 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:07:49 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x3so85624nze for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.9 with SMTP id y9mr233416nzb; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:07:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=blVEDkryeE8kJIduV/qWssODomnsfzdjsVhiyMHhRqQuHZjtdLlXyFvgwswrdTpJUhdI1aW4AjzGs3nliqvYVUa1iWEHjszcJ2ywD5m14QjH/9+rY6DFpTqcXWnliw/uEqbjTiUgEZAzEapEbgxXzi7fzGi2NZu5380MHudP6es= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507070607cc1d05a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:07:49 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: clo In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67D7n2i028273 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU She was my height! On 7/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 07/07/05 8:43 AM >>> > Thanks, Natalie! > > This is one of the graves in Fort Hill: > http://tinyurl.com/7gypr > > clo > > > and this is another > > http://tinyurl.com/clle8 > > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:41:30 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DfAJr011743 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:41:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:41:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B55AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:41:10 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4901117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:41:10 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Df9LH002659 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:41:09 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24947036 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:41:26 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:41:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:41:09 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1515139050.20050707074109@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: <200507071258.j67Cw2hJ025450@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507071258.j67Cw2hJ025450@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 249, in=90398, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/7/2005, 6:58 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: CO> The bombings this am in London really underscore that, don't they? Well, they would if they had anything to do with the Olympics decision. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:43:04 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DgwJr011964 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:42:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:43:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B54AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:42:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4901214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:42:53 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DgrDj002867 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:42:53 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24947177 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:43:09 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:43:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:42:52 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <781892877.20050707074252@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050707090252.01bf9220@pop.gwi.net> References: <200507071258.j67Cw2hJ025450@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <6.2.1.2.0.20050707090252.01bf9220@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 249, in=90400, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, I'll bet that it is number 3, with the timing because of number 1. I'm sure the French couldn't put anything together that quickly....especially after the hangover from too much wine upon losing. Of course the other outside possibility is the IRA or other radical groups, but I find that highly unlikely at this time and place. 7/7/2005, 7:09 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> Well, there are several possible reasons: cwv> 1. The G-8 meetings in the UK (Scotland); cwv> 2. The French, irate at losing the Olympics; cwv> 3. Al-Qaida, shifting emphasis to GB (they claim this, according to the cwv> article); cwv> 4. The French, irate at not being able to find brioche for breakfast. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:45:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67Dj6Jr012325 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:45:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:45:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002B93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:25:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4899808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:25:02 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DP2en032098 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:25:02 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:25:02 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:24:40 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>> cwv@GWI.NET 07/07/05 9:09 AM >>> >At 08:58 AM 7/7/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>The bombings this am in London really underscore that, don't they? >Well, there are several possible reasons: >1. The G-8 meetings in the UK (Scotland); >2. The French, irate at losing the Olympics; >3. Al-Qaida, shifting emphasis to GB (they claim this, according to the article); >4. The French, irate at not being able to find brioche for breakfast. >cwv seems like #3 is the winner http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660391.stm BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:55:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DtKJr013503 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:55:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:55:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01002C41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:45:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4901539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:45:33 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j67DjWbv003658 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:45:33 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070715434612657 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:43:46 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:45:31 +0200 Message-ID: <42CD31FB.6000403@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:45:31 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 13:45:31.0480 (UTC) FILETIME=[2471CD80:01C582FA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 07.07.2005 15:26: >On 7/7/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > >>The one near Cornell was well worth the trip. >> >> > >The cemetery near Love, Judith's house, where she used to take her >children to play, is my absolute fave. Next is the one in Ithaca, >followed by the one in New Haven next to Yale. > > The Grove Street cemetery in New Haven? My uncle and aunt are buried there. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:55:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DtKJr013505 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:55:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:55:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002C5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:47:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4901629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:47:23 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DlM6e004036 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:47:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so208121wra for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.47.79 with SMTP id u79mr688673wru; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:47:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JBqN7JtuGtKIfGLxlwJ6a24COFfyESfqXixqg4eg03oAqf+H77uCYHN0Lbwn5sJMm2A6bwV8YmbJcNIjHZNiEOEh2HbTyg6VhgGfxIKDLZawsgWtOHNPtzV10iqfjWjvvdAGasC74ty1XFa0gQlyk/s34cnmdFNMcZREr9vHJ2w= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:47:22 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j67DtKJr013505 > > The cemetery near Love, Judith's house, where she used to take her > children to play, is my absolute fave. Next is the one in Ithaca, > followed by the one in New Haven next to Yale. > Karen > Too bad Natalie didn't have this obsession two years ago. The cemetery just outside of Bar Harbor has stunning views of the mountains. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:55:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DtKJr013501 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:55:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:55:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002BB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:35:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4900747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:35:38 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DZbHN001416 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:35:38 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:35:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:35:07 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/07/05 9:26 AM >>> >The cemetery near Love, Judith's house, where she used to take her >children to play, is my absolute fave. Next is the one in Ithaca, >followed by the one in New Haven next to Yale. >Karen ooh Swan Point? It's right around the corner from Jim and Nancy. Very cool place. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:55:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DtKJr013499 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:55:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:55:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002BBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:27:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4900106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:27:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DRFBQ032561 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:27:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id q3so87973nzb for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.119.17 with SMTP id r17mr244051nzc; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:27:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oVowSitwnk/p1DW9jxAYK5U3othw/LtWOWo+toNuuKhgyFdmDysRNATtwRCzti8wpnc/wRxdE39XLijecIGMMxLPw3LgipprQFDXz0c9Q/6XBUWRAm+DT1xy6+BGnIPoOKKDQY/dasqdUs/mNgvPek+xHzKAt4ZYHal47rf9E+s= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050707062769ca75cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:27:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: clo In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707062507.02613a90@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70507070607cc1d05a@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707062507.02613a90@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67DRFBQ032562 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I sincerely doubt it. On 7/7/05, Betty Clark wrote: > I wonder if that was average. > > At 06:07 AM 7/7/2005, A Friend of Andy wrote: > >She was my height! > > > >On 7/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 07/07/05 8:43 AM >>> > > > Thanks, Natalie! > > > > > > This is one of the graves in Fort Hill: > > > http://tinyurl.com/7gypr > > > > > > clo > > > > > > > > > and this is another > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/clle8 > > > > > > > > > BrP > > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:55:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DtKJs013503 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:55:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:55:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002C1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:49:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4901717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:49:59 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j67DnwWi004493 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:49:58 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070715481212671 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:48:12 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:49:57 +0200 Message-ID: <42CD3305.9030609@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:49:57 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 13:49:57.0663 (UTC) FILETIME=[C31A1AF0:01C582FA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 07.07.2005 15:26: >On 7/7/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > >>The one near Cornell was well worth the trip. >> >> > >The cemetery near Love, Judith's house, where she used to take her >children to play, is my absolute fave. Next is the one in Ithaca, >followed by the one in New Haven next to Yale. > > PS I believe that there was a cemetery where the Nerw Haven Green is now, and that the graves were moved to the Grove Street cemetery. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:55:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DtKJs013505 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:55:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:55:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002C20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:50:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4901768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:50:58 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DowMG004777 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:50:58 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-56.gwi.net [216.195.164.56]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j67DosBv050847; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:50:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050707093224.01c0dc98@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:36:54 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:24 AM 7/7/2005, Paul Barfoot wrote: >seems like #3 is the winner > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660391.stm Yes. The earlier article couldn't confirm the statement. Interesting that they (Al-Qaeda) are now referring to Dubya's allies as "Crusader" governments. I wonder if they developed this independently, or picked it up from the administration's early post-9/11 bombast. (And yes, Lynn Cheney, I said "bombast.") cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:55:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DtKJs013501 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:55:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:55:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002C8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:52:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4902060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:52:47 -0400 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DqltU005460 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:52:47 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B54E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:52:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200507071352.j67DqltU005460@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:52:47 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:24:40 -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: >>>> cwv@GWI.NET 07/07/05 9:09 AM >>> >>At 08:58 AM 7/7/2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>>The bombings this am in London really underscore that, don't they? > >>Well, there are several possible reasons: > >>1. The G-8 meetings in the UK (Scotland); > >>2. The French, irate at losing the Olympics; > >>3. Al-Qaida, shifting emphasis to GB (they claim this, according to >the >article); > >>4. The French, irate at not being able to find brioche for >breakfast. > >>cwv > >seems like #3 is the winner > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660391.stm > > >BrP Yes, but who claims responsibility for this? "The group not previously been heard of." Typos like this rock the very foundations of our glorious civilization. As bad or worse (from the aforementioned Seward page on FindaGrave) "The judge was destined to become his father-in-law after receiving permission to marry his daughter with condition the couple would have to share his home." clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:55:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DtKJr013506 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:55:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:55:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002BD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:39:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4901018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:39:04 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Dd41J002280 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:39:04 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 24946828 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:39:17 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:39:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:39:01 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <664943392.20050707073901@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: <42CCD79D.5070101@gmail.com> References: <263920594.20050706210911@gailndan.com> <42CCD79D.5070101@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 249, in=90394, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/7/2005, 1:19 AM, Espen S. Ore wrote: >>Thank goodness. I'm wondering how much Chirac's faux pas did to help >>make the decision, especially from the Finns. >> >> >> ESO> Because Finnish food isn't much better than British? According to Chirac Finnish food is even worse than British, and the only one that is. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 08:55:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67DtKJs013506 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:55:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:55:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002C8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:52:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4902068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:52:48 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Dqm9q005645 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:52:48 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2005070713524711200b830ne>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:52:47 +0000 Message-Id: <200507071352.j67Dqm9q005645@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: update - Dad's hand Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:52:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <200507070322.j673MvKX029582@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcWCozf0fPcdfZL2TvOqdu7lKEK5aQAVusKQ Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:23 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: update - Dad's hand > >It's staph. >clo > No fun. Hopefully it is not antibiotic resistant staph. I will send germ killing thoughts. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "To understand the heart and mind of a person, look not at what he has already achieved, but at what he aspires to do. " Lebanese artist & poet (1883 - 1931) Kahlil Gibran From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:18:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EHqJr016552 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:17:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:18:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002CED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:03:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4902147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:03:41 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f14.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DredP016001 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:53:41 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:53:40 -0700 Received: from 64.4.61.204 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:53:40 GMT Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.204] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Morefest Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:53:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 13:53:40.0742 (UTC) FILETIME=[48114260:01C582FB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester >Nope, no family reunions scheduled at present. One was talked about >this year, but nothing so far for next year. Dan, would you like to host PotatoFest '06? wordslurs, any interest in going to Idaho next summer? Is it sufficiently NW? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:18:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EHqJr016553 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:18:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:18:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01002D44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:13:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4903715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:13:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67EDF0f020298 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:13:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o1so92922nzf for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.20 with SMTP id a20mr261359nzc; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:13:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tzUihwb44dFSAMInme9X4qa2R0eMpcK83yYE+SEgnPh7aFYPf41PEaXo5X5i4aJpFqOwzlJ2vGb1vVon8fAYx6sXOjEKEP0G0JCfZ7kq66rtK5/39ZIJDz6obza1SbuS8ZlJGT2SX1+RLbknKSL8UJtfCxqn0Jrfh0We3ake9ro= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070707139ca38ea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:13:15 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67EDF0f020300 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > ooh Swan Point? It's right around the corner from Jim and Nancy. > Very cool place. I dunno the name (I think we had this conversation before). It would seem unlikely that there is more than one cemetery in Providence that's cool, has tall trees, ponds, and families go to play there, so I'll say yes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:18:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EHqJr016546 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:17:56 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:18:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002C63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:57:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4902399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:57:51 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DvpHS016854 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:57:51 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002CB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:57:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200507071357.j67DvpHS016854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:57:51 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:41:09 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >7/7/2005, 6:58 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >CO> The bombings this am in London really underscore that, don't they? > >Well, they would if they had anything to do with the Olympics >decision. I really don't think that this specific crisis needed to be directly related to the Olympic for the general point to be relevant. The fact that mass transit is vulnerable to attacks makes it an attractive target (and especially during high profile events), and that means a lot of extra anxiety for the host city. The death toll for this kind of attack is going to be higher when there are more people moving around, which means a lot of responsibility for security during a big event - on top of ordinary logistical nightmares. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:18:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EHqJs016546 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:18:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:18:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01002D4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:13:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4903778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:13:51 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67EDmW2020449 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:13:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so93101nzo for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.160.3 with SMTP id i3mr240330nze; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:13:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PARUnkxB2S3kx+Eq8svjKprKbqhiliLF4DB6MYePvarJHioH1HkiDlnaLjjwz7IHEWB86sWmZjhdLJ+8XD+BI+A4i1RidAYXT1Ord9jjiL1Ru6cU3pzasIvQL5GAJzJUtKKbySBaRspCIYWpOUMM3n37vGOIOYCIlzmgO+OBafc= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507070713661ac757@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:13:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CD3305.9030609@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3305.9030609@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67EDnW2020451 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/7/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > PS I believe that there was a cemetery where the Nerw Haven Green is > now, and that the graves were moved to the Grove Street cemetery. Yep. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:18:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EHqJs016552 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:18:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:18:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01002D5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:15:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4903920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:15:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67EF4eL020721 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:15:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so93197nzh for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr245968nzb; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:15:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gei01nnuJpuU2gvK/O+Q4VmHzxAPad9B+nh+A0jiaYM0REm0UpoRLvE0gZoJ4jOcTwINKLQ1rSyDX3DNcysvnK3qcAdPeeBRfElVBOwKNZZ3/xzLhVRI8HigC2Ml4Hg6CFzrXaMs6BBfIjCEOk9WeZL4lNJzUe61eyRxR6hZCh0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507070715244cbfa2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:15:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CD31FB.6000403@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD31FB.6000403@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67EF5eL020730 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/7/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > The Grove Street cemetery in New Haven? My uncle and aunt are buried there. I didn't realize they were taking . I partly like it for the historicity, partly for the architecture. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:18:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EHqJs016553 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:18:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:18:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002D71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:15:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4903958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:15:26 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67EFQGT020884 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:15:26 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707141526.ONIJ12836.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:15:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.32]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707141525.TFZI13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:15:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD38FC.4070706@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:15:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Natalie, we really enjoyed visiting the cemeteries. It was always a nice > break with excellent views. New York does good cemeteries. I don't remember seeing a single ugly one. By "ugly" I don't mean . Some of the prettiest are kind of -- like the one in Ithaca. Ugly ones to me are flat and unshady with ugly artificial flowers. > I've never had a policeman in front of me > before with flashing lights. Have you put that picture online yet (sans the flashing lights, I realize)? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:18:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EHqJr016547 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:17:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:18:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002CEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:10:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4903474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:10:31 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67EAVbc019771 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:10:31 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707141031.OJLF12836.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:10:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.32]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707141030.TDLU13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:10:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD37D5.3080506@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:10:29 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: clo References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >This is one of the graves in Fort Hill: >http://tinyurl.com/7gypr > >clo > >and this is another > >http://tinyurl.com/clle8 > > That does look like an interesting cemetery. I'm sorry I missed it, although I liked the North Street Cemetery very much. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:18:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EHqJr016550 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:17:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:18:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002D22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:09:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4902503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:09:15 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67DxFEV017172 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:59:15 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j67DwRwu014819 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:58:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:59:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: staph Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's staph. clo Sorry, clo - I hope/pray all goes well. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:20:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EKMJr016863 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:20:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:20:28 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002D92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:20:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4904234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:20:22 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67EKM1i021623 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:20:22 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707142022.ORCV12836.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:20:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.32]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707142021.TILK13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:20:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:20:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >The cemetery near Love, Judith's house, where she used to take her >children to play, is my absolute fave. > Is that the one where Allan's ashes are? >Next is the one in Ithaca, >followed by the one in New Haven next to Yale. > > I'll have to ponder the question of which cemetery is my favorite. I saw lots of great ones on this trip. And there are some right around here that would also be contenders (though many others around here are of the hot, flat, ugly variety). One I like that's around here is this one: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=2140577&CScn=chapel&CSst=27& Or if that's too long: http://tinyurl.com/czbb -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:22:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EM4Jr017066 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:22:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:22:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002D64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:22:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4904480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:22:03 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67EM3Iu021994 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:22:03 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j67EM1DJ025522 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:22:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:22:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom memorial service In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050706221009.02689d60@calmail.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <42BC8C91.7040302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050706221009.02689d60@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Betty Clark wrote: > I'm so glad you are able to do this, Larry. Well, I'm glad I was able to. I'm really sorry Natalie is being put to such distress because she wasn't able to go. I'm on my laptop here in a carrel at the Young Library at the University of Kentucky, using UK's handy wireless network. The memorial service will be at 5pm in another nearby library. My speaking plans have been modified somewhat. I will make my own comments, followed by Anne Toal's remembrance, followed by Marcia Franzen's letter. I'm #8 on the list of speakers. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:23:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67ENHJr017156 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:23:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:23:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002DBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:23:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4904557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:23:16 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67ENGrb022187 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:23:16 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707142316.OTWW12836.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:23:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.32]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707142316.TKEV13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:23:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD3AD2.7090807@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:23:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniemaev wrote: >Too bad Natalie didn't have this obsession two years ago. The cemetery just >outside of Bar Harbor has stunning views of the mountains. > > I certainly hope that two years ago wasn't the last time I'll ever be in that vicinity. I feel sure that I'll be up that way again. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:24:23 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EOHJr017260 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:24:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:24:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002D7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:24:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4904663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:24:17 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67EOHiK022476 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:24:17 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.212.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707142417.OVBF12836.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:24:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.212.32]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707142416.TKWB13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:24:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD3B0F.2030806@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:24:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Morefest References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Dan, would you like to host PotatoFest '06? wordslurs, any interest in > going to Idaho next summer? Is it sufficiently NW? Sounds good to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:27:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67ER9Jr017608 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:27:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:27:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002DED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:27:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4904957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:27:09 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67ER9wF023188 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:27:09 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s1so94851nze for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.20 with SMTP id a20mr266016nzc; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:27:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nLaf29Ux7+4ZsiK/GYu2xd8kxEXdlVEcRtAtu+KvLL3G5EcSxeUxD4il2PWXnPFMZum5/ZVOb55pgH/8HIl0fIB600dYk1z+q1dBdqLWVO0YBBrHIbHsuMTx1A7zhZ5MFcrAyfD1hBUDtgrrteS0fKJYswIgVUgNIt+OXqXtXHE= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:27:08 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67ER9wF023192 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A Friend of Andy wrote: > > >The cemetery near Love, Judith's house, where she used to take her > >children to play, is my absolute fave. > > > Is that the one where Allan's ashes are? Yes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:28:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67ESTJr017796 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:28:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:28:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002DF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:28:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4904991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:28:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67ESF2V023381 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:28:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x3so94083nze for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr250336nzb; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:28:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E606oCphZ0q9S5GvBqdSJ+6IeOmkI8y+ZO2XXaTLPVOCAF2yAnHu+RSsCvY/1qZaEggfw/TrIPoyYrX83a7QPR7hAjKs0stu6P3MbWmhN6Yj38iOjPmfsGMaE2ZADGi5zRGbiSbI5f0M5w76/9Ppp6Up+D0jQxjzjboc6VAwcPo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507070728257c2f1b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:28:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad Grissom memorial service In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42BC8C91.7040302@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050706221009.02689d60@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67ESF2V023382 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for doing this. On 7/7/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Betty Clark wrote: > > > I'm so glad you are able to do this, Larry. > > Well, I'm glad I was able to. I'm really sorry Natalie is being put to > such distress because she wasn't able to go. > > I'm on my laptop here in a carrel at the Young Library at the University > of Kentucky, using UK's handy wireless network. The memorial service will > be at 5pm in another nearby library. > > My speaking plans have been modified somewhat. I will make my own > comments, followed by Anne Toal's remembrance, followed by Marcia > Franzen's letter. I'm #8 on the list of speakers. > > Larry > > --- > Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com > The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com > Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon > Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:39:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67Ed6Jr018870 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:39:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:39:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002E0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:37:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4905829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:37:55 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67EbsDu026018; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:37:54 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119351610; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:37:54 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707073812.0268f320@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:39:43 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Morefest In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:53 AM 7/7/2005, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Dan Lester > >>Nope, no family reunions scheduled at present. One was talked about >>this year, but nothing so far for next year. > >Dan, would you like to host PotatoFest '06? wordslurs, any interest in >going to Idaho next summer? Is it sufficiently NW? Rashmi, I want you to know that you were very much missed this year. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:39:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67Ed6Jr018869 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:39:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:39:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002DB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:29:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4905120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:29:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67ET1VV023584 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:29:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c3so93392nze for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.18 with SMTP id m18mr251118nzb; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:29:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bdXFrJwxM8zR/txPeiWETIurrbHDB9LYH/LPRc8R93eGEMgRxjcuq1ARx5UO4AS9fFu8aFoSLPJx+SHaxGLbG9r5U0gkxYKpDuyQB3mH62ikBv6vvsuspXxtKjwGBaNrXSobPgp5oEqITw+fto5/SMX+bM2JzfZaIRGON1SEi18= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050707072924b286eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:29:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: like a fish In-Reply-To: <42CBE00A.9000609@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705070606303212cb7@mail.gmail.com> <42CBE00A.9000609@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67ET1VV023588 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/6/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > A Friend of Andy skrev 06.07.2005 15:30: > > >I want one! > > > >On 7/6/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > > > >>An Israeli Inventor has developed a breathing apparatus that will allow > >>breathing underwater without the assistance of compressed air tanks. > >> > >>http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/310505_tech.htm > >> > >> > >> > So do I! Paul's birthday is coming up, too!!! I wonder how much these things cost... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:42:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EgqJr019716 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:42:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:42:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002EBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:42:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4906556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:42:52 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Egp1h027543; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:42:52 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119352740; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:42:51 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707074012.0266a160@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:44:40 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CD38FC.4070706@maynor.net> References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42CD38FC.4070706@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:15 AM 7/7/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>Natalie, we really enjoyed visiting the cemeteries. It was always a nice >>break with excellent views. > >New York does good cemeteries. I don't remember seeing a single ugly >one. By "ugly" I don't mean . Some of the prettiest are kind >of -- like the one in Ithaca. Ugly ones to me are flat and >unshady with ugly artificial flowers. I liked that one of them actually had a sign that said artificial flowers were not allowed during certain months. >>I've never had a policeman in front of me >>before with flashing lights. > >Have you put that picture online yet (sans the flashing lights, I realize)? Not yet. It's on my laptop. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 09:57:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67EudJr020757 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:56:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:57:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B5825@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:56:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4907898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:56:31 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (s4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67EuSWE031238 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:56:29 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24712556 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:22:50 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:56:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:56:09 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1809690038.20050707085609@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: <200507071357.j67DvpHS016854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507071357.j67DvpHS016854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 251, in=92134, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/7/2005, 7:57 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>CO> The bombings this am in London really underscore that, don't they? >> >>Well, they would if they had anything to do with the Olympics >>decision. CO> I really don't think that this specific crisis needed to be directly CO> related to the Olympic for the general point to be relevant. Of course it is relevant....but my point is that it wasn't TODAY because of the Olympics decision. It would have been today in London even if the Olympics had gone elsewhere. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 10:12:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67FCOJr022141 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:12:25 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:12:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01002FAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:12:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4909154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:12:24 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67FCOc2002738 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:12:24 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01002FFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:12:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200507071512.j67FCOc2002738@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:12:23 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:56:09 -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >7/7/2005, 7:57 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>>CO> The bombings this am in London really underscore that, don't they? >>> >>>Well, they would if they had anything to do with the Olympics >>>decision. > >CO> I really don't think that this specific crisis needed to be directly >CO> related to the Olympic for the general point to be relevant. > >Of course it is relevant....but my point is that it wasn't TODAY >because of the Olympics decision. It would have been today in London >even if the Olympics had gone elsewhere. um, well... ok. Colourless greed ideas sweep spuriously. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 10:20:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67FJnJr023041 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:20:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:20:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0100304D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:19:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4909955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:19:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67FJmhr004749 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:19:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r28so100209nza for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.39.7 with SMTP id m7mr282106nzm; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qSNCwKn6t41efFWxH1ueY4rMlMfZNWF3OVbtBZwEk8Tss3QmJKmLjNml7+oeVU1oeP3RxLMihltv4HCvWJqFdfrxcPy05TLaA5HvCNcA3dC4HvRUlUX3htMBb3QwU05rdUpanzmt4lnTH26d1TAwUemCip5Ztfcpl6gI+XnUpSQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070708193a397d40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:19:48 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: <1809690038.20050707085609@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507071357.j67DvpHS016854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1809690038.20050707085609@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67FJmhr004750 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/7/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 7/7/2005, 7:57 AM, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >>CO> The bombings this am in London really underscore that, don't they? > >> > >>Well, they would if they had anything to do with the Olympics > >>decision. > > CO> I really don't think that this specific crisis needed to be directly > CO> related to the Olympic for the general point to be relevant. > > Of course it is relevant....but my point is that it wasn't TODAY > because of the Olympics decision. It would have been today in London > even if the Olympics had gone elsewhere. Well, yeah. Of course. No one said otherwise. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 10:46:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67Fk8Jr026238 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:46:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:46:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01003111@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:46:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4911943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:46:07 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Fk786011347 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:46:07 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j67Fk6iR028171 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:46:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:46:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707074012.0266a160@calmail.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42CD38FC.4070706@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707074012.0266a160@calmail.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Betty Clark wrote: > I liked that one of them actually had a sign that said artificial flowers > were not allowed during certain months. I'm surprised that struck you as unusual. Here in Michigan, most every actively maintained cemetery has a sign like that. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 11:04:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67G4cJr028835 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:04:39 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:04:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01003171@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:54:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4912691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:54:37 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Fsbei012771 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:54:37 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 4so100502nzn for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.60 with SMTP id u60mr359378nzg; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:54:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=HRGYKsO7XE61YQlGO+M7sSB3ginf6Q1y1LyMdJmClOLXlO7Fc+PaE1A2ue5eJxCHLfiAvsZ6p22PXvJG7K1iEpKomII6xVGcMY4bUbEBQB17u9V8SBKm+0IHteD/uUezT5eQ1fmwmpyTZ7StXftlNXBRCCnt9p0loUX02/+Hqhc= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:54:37 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: words-l Subject: Attn: US wordslers who didn't like the eminent domain ruling Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67Fsbei012773 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hey guys, Check out S.1313: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.1313: After a long prelude, what it says is: The power of eminent domain shall be available only for public use. In this Act, the term 'public use' shall not be construed to include economic development. This Act shall apply to all exercises of eminent domain power by the Federal Government; and all exercises of eminent domain power by State and local government through the use of Federal funds. I think that's a good idea. I've e-mailed my Senators to support it. Ben actually agreeing with the American Family Association about something From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 11:19:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67GJ4Jr030736 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:19:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:19:24 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01003284@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:19:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4915148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:19:04 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67GJ3Tt017556 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:19:04 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i35so232294wra for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.56 with SMTP id 56mr891091wrz; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:19:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jTpQSkq1AB6ZJIyh4RfuiAoiPA4runNYRcOifBLk1DzpuZauGY9h3v5BhSHQTV+POAttZmY7BUEnrV7iqOnry+ufeMPGKlIKq0b1arwbxS8ckheR0fAEXKllKJ0eScuKsR//JUv/dOxM86HUxlyFGfy0YOU6ZRAmybQRLmKarYk= Message-ID: <83db447a05070709194c1bad7b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:19:03 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: US wordslers who didn't like the eminent domain ruling In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j67GJ4Jr030736 On 7/7/05, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > > The power of eminent domain shall be available only for public use. > In this Act, the term 'public use' shall not be construed to include > economic development. It sounds nice, but I can see lots of litigation should this act become law. As an example, TVA has the power of eminent domain (and has used it, to the extent that some in legal circles believe that early TVA lawyers "wrote the book" on eminent domain). They use it (when all else fails) to acquire land for electric power plants. It is widely accepted that low-cost and plentiful electric power is a, if not major force in the economic development of the Tennessee Valley. And in fact economic development is the major reason for any expansion of the TVA system. I imagine that this act, like many others, will if passed have its main effect in contributing to the Litigation Attorneys' Benefit Fund. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 11:21:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67GLFJr031063 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:21:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:21:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0100329B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:21:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4915301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:21:14 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67GLDPu017980 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:21:13 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so234733wri for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.36.46 with SMTP id j46mr860087wrj; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:21:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PTWNdslyQDnea73le1Cl0T6V3blpBT+01lAQ2VWeKfPk3QVYRIEL9ksOhK2NBGU/S1lcj+zw8nYVWhzOOV5wONojD1K107x/7V4NjIdoQpnxPaO3ufJtay3rEQMIi7qyMdbk+bJOUCeKqNLjtg7akSU6jMhjdrSVFizrYkngP/E= Message-ID: <83db447a05070709216592f3a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:21:13 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CD3AD2.7090807@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3AD2.7090807@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j67GLFJr031063 On 7/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > bonniemaev wrote: > > >Too bad Natalie didn't have this obsession two years ago. The cemetery > just > >outside of Bar Harbor has stunning views of the mountains. > > > > > I certainly hope that two years ago wasn't the last time I'll ever be in > that vicinity. I feel sure that I'll be up that way again. Your Belfast motel is still there---didn't check on your rock last time we passed through that area (about two weeks ago) but I imagine that it too is still there. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 11:39:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67GcvJr000633 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:39:00 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:39:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01003349@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:38:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4916261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:38:47 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67GckKJ020601 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:38:46 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.87.153]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707163846.SBAX2451.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:38:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.87.153]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707163846.JLXI2915.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:38:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:38:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>Is that the one where Allan's ashes are? >> >> >Yes. > > It is a beautiful cemetery. We went and spoke to Allan's ashes one time when I was visiting. There are lots of graves from it on FindaGrave. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 11:50:25 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67GoKJr002182 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:50:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:50:25 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B5A93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:40:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4916356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:40:17 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Ge6Wn020835 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:40:06 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.87.153]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707164005.SCQM2451.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:40:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.87.153]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707164005.JMUW2915.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:40:05 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD5AE3.2000106@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:40:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42CD38FC.4070706@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707074012.0266a160@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707074012.0266a160@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I liked that one of them actually had a sign that said artificial flowers > were not allowed during certain months. I saw some more like that on my way home. > Not yet. It's on my laptop. I've got tons of pictures to tend to on my laptop. I've decided to tend to yesterday's pictures first since they're on this computer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 11:51:43 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67GpUJr002314 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:51:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:51:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01003322@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:41:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4916428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:41:22 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67GfLYf021053 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:41:21 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.87.153]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707164121.SEIB2451.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:41:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.87.153]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707164120.JNPR2915.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:41:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD5B2D.2070709@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:41:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted References: <200507071512.j67FCOc2002738@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200507071512.j67FCOc2002738@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>>>CO> The bombings this am in London really underscore that, don't they? >>>> >>>>Well, they would if they had anything to do with the Olympics >>>>decision. >>>> >>>> >>CO> I really don't think that this specific crisis needed to be directly >>CO> related to the Olympic for the general point to be relevant. >> >>Of course it is relevant....but my point is that it wasn't TODAY >>because of the Olympics decision. It would have been today in London >>even if the Olympics had gone elsewhere. >> >> >um, well... ok. Colourless greed ideas sweep spuriously. > > What she said. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 11:51:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67GpUJr002316 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:51:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:51:43 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01003364@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:44:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4916496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:44:27 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67GiQtX021325 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:44:26 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([70.152.87.153]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707164427.SIQF2451.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:44:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.152.87.153]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707164426.JQDY2915.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:44:26 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD5BE9.9090609@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:44:25 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3AD2.7090807@maynor.net> <83db447a05070709216592f3a5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05070709216592f3a5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >>I certainly hope that two years ago wasn't the last time I'll ever be in >>that vicinity. I feel sure that I'll be up that way again. >> >> > Your Belfast motel is still there---didn't check on your rock last time we >passed through that area (about two weeks ago) but I imagine that it too is >still there. > > And think about the neat pictures I could take of that rock from my balcony with my super-zoomy camera! Is that motel a Comfort Inn or a Comfort Suites? (Yes, I could find the answer by googling.) The reason I'm wondering is that somebody mentioned at the fest that some Comfort Inns are terrible. That one sure wasn't! But it might have been a CS instead of a CI? CS and CI are related, aren't they? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:13:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HCfJr005977 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:12:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:12:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B5AC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:12:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4919876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:12:41 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HCe8Q026371 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:12:40 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so244382wra for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.16.77 with SMTP id 77mr344558wrp; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:12:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZnBFMS3qT67bANhkjqVmsIsRgUZYHGkfc7Yb3UcgNaJVtjU952zZ6r1IoXtUJKRF9s8OgzlFXurCEgae7iGZ9xQ/0pRojrvAWcvXLABaRmaG2HSHf6LPHsrNGficjnYH1ccvWTZiM0498KR6ZwYEEgU0pWODmnaM40WYC4RtXqE= Message-ID: <83db447a05070710122da868fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:12:40 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CD5BE9.9090609@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3AD2.7090807@maynor.net> <83db447a05070709216592f3a5@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5BE9.9090609@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j67HCfJr005977 On 7/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > > >>I certainly hope that two years ago wasn't the last time I'll ever be in > >>that vicinity. I feel sure that I'll be up that way again. > >> > >> > > Your Belfast motel is still there---didn't check on your rock last time > we > >passed through that area (about two weeks ago) but I imagine that it too > is > >still there. > > > > > And think about the neat pictures I could take of that rock from my > balcony with my super-zoomy camera! Is that motel a Comfort Inn or a > Comfort Suites? (Yes, I could find the answer by googling.) The reason > I'm wondering is that somebody mentioned at the fest that some Comfort > Inns are terrible. That one sure wasn't! But it might have been a CS > instead of a CI? CS and CI are related, aren't they? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:16:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HGmJr006571 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:16:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:16:53 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B5BED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:16:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4920264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:16:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HGgLI027082 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:16:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so243337wri for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.36.28 with SMTP id j28mr932341wrj; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:16:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sCfP+uQvcxtYXx96Hv1STnmmRCV+oJyrrLYj7dsZFCHCwubBS1rn1SRUxKQgHcc3n2tzMhhPgfqe/kxhmpYf74HSII28eftOU0CKK5sAdtlzYAldre+3+IkEa3fLC6FgUUHQs9IbzMmdKtWcMkkcZp1jOHXgVFYaoci6Tw6dEy8= Message-ID: <83db447a050707101624c6a085@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:16:42 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted In-Reply-To: <42CD5B2D.2070709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200507071512.j67FCOc2002738@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42CD5B2D.2070709@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j67HGmJr006571 On 7/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >> > >um, well... ok. Colourless greed ideas sweep spuriously. > > > > > What she said. To which I can only add: elephant mayonnaise ashcan termigant. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:20:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HKpJr007198 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:20:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:20:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B5AFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:20:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4920544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:20:51 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HKoIN027744 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:20:50 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 96539283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:18:55 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD6471.6050708@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:20:49 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The I.O.C. has voted References: <200507071512.j67FCOc2002738@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <42CD5B2D.2070709@maynor.net> <83db447a050707101624c6a085@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a050707101624c6a085@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >On 7/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>>um, well... ok. Colourless greed ideas sweep spuriously. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>What she said. >> >> > > To which I can only add: elephant mayonnaise ashcan termigant. > cwv > > Drat, Clyde!! There is coffee all over my screen now. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:34:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsJr009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:33:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:34:04 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0100347C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:03:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4919311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:03:48 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67H3l7S025046 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:03:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so111895nzi for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr315616nzd; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:03:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mUrHK+ktQaZ/8mpUja/56r8+0mFllYSTurgQlF3lssw4bxzAFDxEwFnzZIVB3oyBSCv79Umj0nRPEEouHZIVDsbUpj6cVfiReNMbzA2MhHdAwd4tDKnAby6oA+SHlsBtBtvl+B38pONG3nDbIvqCGgKyC0OYPSPNnLPZ4Ayztt8= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:03:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67H3m7S025047 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > It is a beautiful cemetery. We went and spoke to Allan's ashes one time > when I was visiting. I gather that she does this fairly often. > There are lots of graves from it on FindaGrave. What's the name of it?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:34:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsJs009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:34:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:34:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01003519@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:14:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4919977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:14:02 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HE2q3026552 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:14:02 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so242469wra for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.72.7 with SMTP id u7mr898988wra; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:14:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SiMl7frczQWfb9X9yDNyiS/ukBuSAWjZb5Dhm5Oaad7KEI7sr+WBLW/QgYSVn6e/SHdXK/wyFlBz80ldklY42WLkMsgajS8s15O5rfrtzJ+j4LZKPpm+acWiLbgWtQKLzXr1G56p2z3cnbjMkBKYTOVN9DxJAIgnXxQ6xhA3ibM= Message-ID: <83db447a05070710146aad979@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:14:01 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CD5BE9.9090609@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3AD2.7090807@maynor.net> <83db447a05070709216592f3a5@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5BE9.9090609@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j67HXsJs009216 On 7/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > And think about the neat pictures I could take of that rock from my > balcony with my super-zoomy camera! Is that motel a Comfort Inn or a > Comfort Suites? (Yes, I could find the answer by googling.) The reason > I'm wondering is that somebody mentioned at the fest that some Comfort > Inns are terrible. That one sure wasn't! But it might have been a CS > instead of a CI? CS and CI are related, aren't they? Yes, yes, and yes. Sorry for the blank reply. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:34:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsJt009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:34:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:34:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01003527@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:14:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4920095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:14:56 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HEuLa026717 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:14:56 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j67HEsfY031920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:14:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:14:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm finalizing my speech for tonight. Question: Did Brad Grissom EVER attend the annual July list event? In other words, would it be accurate to say (as part of making a larger point) that he NEVER did? Or should I throw in a qualifier to limit this to my personal experience with list fests? Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:34:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsJu009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:34:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:34:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01003543@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:17:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4920351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:17:31 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HHVF7027243 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:17:31 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 98367493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:14:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:17:30 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm certain that he was at Clam Bake. As that was the only one that I attended, I can't speak for any others. Rita L. Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I'm finalizing my speech for tonight. Question: > > Did Brad Grissom EVER attend the annual July list event? > > In other words, would it be accurate to say (as part of making a larger > point) that he NEVER did? > > Or should I throw in a qualifier to limit this to my personal experience > with list fests? > > Larry > > --- > Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com > The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com > Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon > Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 -- Rita Leonard Boston College Information Technology Services - Systems Services Email: leonard@bc.edu Phone: 617-552-3403 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:34:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsJv009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:34:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:34:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0100354C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:19:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4920430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:19:08 -0400 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HJ7nL027405 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:19:08 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by duck.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2762EDFFC2C32 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:19:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000d01c58317$f6c613f0$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3AD2.7090807@maynor.net> <83db447a05070709216592f3a5@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5BE9.9090609@maynor.net> <83db447a05070710146aad979@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:18:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Voigtlander" To: Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue On 7/7/05, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > And think about the neat pictures I could take of that rock from my > balcony with my super-zoomy camera! Is that motel a Comfort Inn or a > Comfort Suites? (Yes, I could find the answer by googling.) The reason > I'm wondering is that somebody mentioned at the fest that some Comfort > Inns are terrible. That one sure wasn't! But it might have been a CS > instead of a CI? CS and CI are related, aren't they? I've been at good CI and bad CI, but generally don't care much for them. My favorite standby is Hampton Inn no matter where I go. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:34:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HYfJr009312 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:34:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:34:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B5B45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:34:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4921468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:34:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HYRYw029845 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:34:28 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so115128nzo for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.19 with SMTP id j19mr313098nzj; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ui1ro9WiQjwrvg56akG8TgnQFEOMWLLI8A97ueaXoqdt1RUPBgAowYOlXXDJaUPF+ERmDlc40Mgqxayz3yaw2snKiQHcfXlKTvyNNrK/gMimeEGdEZG+IVMbxr8GzTYcAD9TrHJwmuTjF+90ITpKsTXhW+bLoR8ajdV343ek+1Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050707103477907a98@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:34:27 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102529.025f74c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a050707102111523a62@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102529.025f74c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67HYSYw029848 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is a GREAT story! On 7/7/05, Betty Clark wrote: > At 10:21 AM 7/7/2005, you wrote: > >On 7/7/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > > > > > I'm finalizing my speech for tonight. Question: > > > > > > Did Brad Grissom EVER attend the annual July list event? > > > > I wasn't there---but did he not show up at SlugFest? > > cwv > > This makes me remember how he "tricked" some people into thinking he was at > Block Island, too. He posted as if he were there. I know Boo was taken in > for a while. > > Betty > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:34:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsJw009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:34:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:34:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0100354A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:21:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4920581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:21:26 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HLPia027822 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:21:26 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i34so244669wra for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.101.2 with SMTP id y2mr912346wrb; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:21:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LxLYJYTiLaNT+VqGRtp2GXVoPNsd2m9iiy61rEAPJA1Gvmkfp6ezYfM0ow92PivKqY1yTDzJNMbcmUHaA+E8GcqWorRhhj9kR3RY4YYqa54A4zIHYLVxkpzO8bBY1ki4r5maW3e0n8lbNN0PEtVBBJLRtTUeZMr6lDxCSFDJa+g= Message-ID: <83db447a050707102111523a62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:21:23 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j67HXsJw009216 On 7/7/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > I'm finalizing my speech for tonight. Question: > > Did Brad Grissom EVER attend the annual July list event? I wasn't there---but did he not show up at SlugFest? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:35:06 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsJx009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:34:53 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:35:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01003555@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:22:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4920656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:22:24 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HMNdx027939; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:22:23 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119403255; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:22:22 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102259.0615ac30@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:24:10 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:14 AM 7/7/2005, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >I'm finalizing my speech for tonight. Question: > >Did Brad Grissom EVER attend the annual July list event? His sister brought him to SlugFest along with John Hannum. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:35:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsK0009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:35:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:35:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0100357A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:24:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4920799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:24:03 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HO2EF028185 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:24:02 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 14so113367nzn for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr328234nzt; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XW7MIca1o3Tyh87jSMUNeBXLasHmPd8MElDnjzNDfkjEYYcC6IACVCoYW23AouX5IIW3hFrmNKxDA/WMHR6C22w0v4EAx3UmhKlQDrsBzei+Vp508rwpLevn5lG5omRk10GJdLaZFAEAtXC/fjL54LlL6iXQ3s4jcYAMkQLHIvo= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070710241ccb598a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:24:01 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67HO2EF028193 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wasn't he at SalmonBake? On 7/7/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > I'm certain that he was at Clam Bake. As that was the only one that I > attended, I can't speak for any others. > > Rita L. > > Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > > I'm finalizing my speech for tonight. Question: > > > > Did Brad Grissom EVER attend the annual July list event? > > > > In other words, would it be accurate to say (as part of making a larger > > point) that he NEVER did? > > > > Or should I throw in a qualifier to limit this to my personal experience > > with list fests? > > > > Larry > > > > --- > > Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com > > The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com > > Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon > > Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 > > > -- > Rita Leonard > Boston College > Information Technology Services - Systems Services > Email: leonard@bc.edu > Phone: 617-552-3403 > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:35:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsK1009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:35:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:35:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0100357E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:25:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4920829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:25:02 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HP2pL028294 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:25:02 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119403926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:25:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102529.025f74c0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:26:49 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <83db447a050707102111523a62@mail.gmail.com> References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <83db447a050707102111523a62@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:21 AM 7/7/2005, you wrote: >On 7/7/05, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > > > > I'm finalizing my speech for tonight. Question: > > > > Did Brad Grissom EVER attend the annual July list event? > > I wasn't there---but did he not show up at SlugFest? > cwv This makes me remember how he "tricked" some people into thinking he was at Block Island, too. He posted as if he were there. I know Boo was taken in for a while. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:35:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsK2009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:35:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:35:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01003545@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:27:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4920999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:27:43 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HRgd6028733 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:27:43 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so264116wra for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.57.56 with SMTP id f56mr848235wra; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.11 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:27:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SlxXExrbIE04c0nbYt3h6pyhVVqaEL5TyiX2Jj9ogzVbChI1uZLOCB9Bu730yplJdo9g7BmgfHBAdbEzMEit77bIFO7G8FYiR98iZlZ4GHJ6Lt5/nBiEYUY9sG0Jw4Y9L0v+97P/P7tm/3m11M1g1i5U3ca1BaVp62YGXsiVvk4= Message-ID: <44dce1c1050707102712ed3d82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:27:42 -0400 From: Terry Wild Reply-To: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67HRhd6028736 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/7/05, Rita Leonard wrote: > I'm certain that he was at Clam Bake. As that was the only one that I > attended, I can't speak for any others. > > Rita L. > Yes, he was at clambake. Natalie would know about other attendences. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:35:27 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsK3009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:35:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:35:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01003548@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:28:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4921022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:28:26 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HSOVD028821 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:28:24 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119405030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:28:23 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102933.026596f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:30:10 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Can you spot him at Salmon bake here? http://words-l.org/FTFs.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:35:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HXsK4009216 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:35:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:35:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.010035BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:33:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4921445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:33:46 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HXjEj029757 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:33:46 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 18so115718nzp for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.119.17 with SMTP id r17mr330489nzc; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:33:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OezgtpgtXSQt3D1q2Ib6Xigvc4UdQ16rBQGdqlHwSmkK01bI9ks+u6icAcgKSh7bwLp5OR3QFJTG9Yln5AkhgsmnVbHan80teRA2ArvjCJx/WZyLBiy9YtNGHYTRZvdrV78KitkMUSlLNluQewXu3jumSkMauoZKUMEa+alTSwg= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070710332a8ef8fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:33:44 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102933.026596f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102933.026596f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67HXkEj029762 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Isn't that him below Neal--far right, 2nd row from the bottom? THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE! On 7/7/05, Betty Clark wrote: > Can you spot him at Salmon bake here? > > http://words-l.org/FTFs.html > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:50:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67Ho9Jr011731 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:50:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:50:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B5B9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:50:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4922737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:50:08 -0400 Received: from web51303.mail.yahoo.com (web51303.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j67Ho7NI032538 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:50:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 24238 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jul 2005 17:50:04 -0000 Received: from [66.82.9.19] by web51303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:50:04 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Xz6fVSVUKbmD2KVm3rP2dGMqYfsDv9PZ3kzQozLx0UaDLUvfEOGUv0rIKpqOeSA6ktV2qTfAQKtW6eMW1wnz6vxIJoTJTemol1WvTe1RBABHTydOpBiFVWz+UkpniscJu1DLULZJO4gRyFAG8TwR0bMRJIiOYF4A80bhIcidp7A= ; Message-ID: <20050707175004.24236.qmail@web51303.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doris Smith Reply-To: dormarbil@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I know he was at at least one fest, as he was one of the fest-ers who wished me a happy birthday on the annual phone call. Doris S Rita Leonard wrote: I'm certain that he was at Clam Bake. As that was the only one that I attended, I can't speak for any others. Rita L. Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I'm finalizing my speech for tonight. Question: > > Did Brad Grissom EVER attend the annual July list event? > > In other words, would it be accurate to say (as part of making a larger > point) that he NEVER did? > > Or should I throw in a qualifier to limit this to my personal experience > with list fests? > > Larry > > --- > Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com > The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com > Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon > Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 -- Rita Leonard Boston College Information Technology Services - Systems Services Email: leonard@bc.edu Phone: 617-552-3403 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:55:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HtXJr012471 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:55:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:55:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.010035CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:35:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4921561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:35:32 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HZW82030058 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:35:32 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s1so115906nze for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr331857nzt; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:35:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QxhLJv/Dn7QxjIrla422ck+qBunbObfou1kfiBDN7MzsvZUCJIeTxtBsmBaix7KlvblWLZm6AM3ILWZn83c8mAc4WI628sKI0+XyG+n/hFaYHFlD07z0WU+cEqZ90MNoG/cp1kt7z9zXjF0kidG7VEGyjFtpejlL8LcjZ61Aehs= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050707103566ecead8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:35:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070710332a8ef8fa@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102933.026596f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070710332a8ef8fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67HZW82030062 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was going to say "I want to do this", but in fact, y'all kept me so well informed that I do feel like I was at FingerFest. I am sure that when I am in the nursing home I will think that I was. On 7/7/05, A Friend of Andy wrote: > Isn't that him below Neal--far right, 2nd row from the bottom? > > THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE! > > On 7/7/05, Betty Clark wrote: > > Can you spot him at Salmon bake here? > > > > http://words-l.org/FTFs.html > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:55:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HtXJr012469 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:55:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:55:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.010035CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:42:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4922061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:42:39 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Hgcmj031309 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:42:38 -0400 Received: from falcon195 (falcon-195.ular.upenn.edu[130.91.35.195]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2005070717423811300q11tje>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:42:38 +0000 From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Cc: Subject: RE: Urgent Brad question Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:42:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcWDF2V7fndgl6bnSPWkFRdQQ7GKMAAAv4UA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Disposition-Notification-To: "Alec D. Plotkin" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lawrence Kestenbaum >Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:15 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Urgent Brad question > >I'm finalizing my speech for tonight. Question: > >Did Brad Grissom EVER attend the annual July list event? > >In other words, would it be accurate to say (as part of making a larger >point) that he NEVER did? > >Or should I throw in a qualifier to limit this to my personal >experience >with list fests? > > Larry > We drank a few beers in Mississippi together. He was at Natalie's Fest Goat Roast 94 in Mississippi. Alec <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@att.net "To understand the heart and mind of a person, look not at what he has already achieved, but at what he aspires to do. " Lebanese artist & poet (1883 - 1931) Kahlil Gibran From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:55:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HtXJr012470 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:55:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:55:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0100364F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:47:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4922495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:47:29 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HlS2q032139 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:47:28 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j67HjneN032652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:47:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:45:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Okay, okay, I have changed the text and left that out completely. I needed to shorten it anyway. I think I do see Brad at the lower right in the Salmonbake photo. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 12:55:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67HtXJr012468 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:55:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:55:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.010035B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:38:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4921829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:38:32 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67HcU0S030593 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:38:30 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:38:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:38:20 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU me too BrP >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/07/05 1:35 PM >>> y'all kept me so well informed that I do feel like I was at FingerFest. I am sure that when I am in the nursing home I will think that I was. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 13:13:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67IDIJr014951 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:13:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:13:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.010036D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4923665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:43 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (s3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67I3gYA002364 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:42 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 24883119 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:17:30 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:04:13 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:03:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1673966043.20050707120340@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070710241ccb598a@mail.gmail.com> References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> <8ddfc8a705070710241ccb598a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 251, in=104946, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/7/2005, 11:24 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: AFoA> Wasn't he at SalmonBake? Could be....though I don't specifically remember him there like I do at Clambake. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 13:13:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67IDIJr014952 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:13:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:13:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.010036FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:08:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4923977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:08:43 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67I8g4t003259 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:08:43 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so120633nzf for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr339823nzt; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:08:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=A26XrZcetSx1cmh+g7Fh/NVcKar/31hOEuBemQ475haDybrgCpH+SIWLw/LsFTmn41ZcMC9cffyDMGlEclrxwCupif6EC2tgCpVTqow42PIRnxizg6g9Z65wzeJzDpJEi5+PoujkFsP0eFzqNs7UpWZk6NUaWJjqpjhEJGncy9k= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070711082bf20c83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:08:42 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <1673966043.20050707120340@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> <8ddfc8a705070710241ccb598a@mail.gmail.com> <1673966043.20050707120340@gailndan.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67I8h4t003262 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU He was scarce; I think that was his last one. On 7/7/05, Dan Lester wrote: > 7/7/2005, 11:24 AM, A Friend of Andy wrote: > > AFoA> Wasn't he at SalmonBake? > > Could be....though I don't specifically remember him there like I do > at Clambake. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 13:13:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67IDIJr014953 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:13:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:13:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.010036D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4923651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:18 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (s4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67I3DuF002233 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:13 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24731803 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:29:35 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:03:19 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:02:46 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <531505301.20050707120247@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 251, in=92276, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/7/2005, 11:17 AM, Rita Leonard wrote: RL> I'm certain that he was at Clam Bake. As that was the only one that I RL> attended, I can't speak for any others. Correct. That's the only FTF I had with him. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 13:33:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67IWLJr017608 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:32:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:33:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0100374E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:22:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4924224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:22:13 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j67ICCDq003947 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:12:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 74696 invoked by uid 1003); 7 Jul 2005 18:12:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:12:10 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: US wordslers who didn't like the eminent domain ruling Message-ID: <20050707181210.GA68032@words-l.org> References: <83db447a05070709194c1bad7b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83db447a05070709194c1bad7b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 12:19:03PM -0400, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: > the Litigation Attorneys' Benefit Fund. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 15:11:58 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67KBkJr030339 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:11:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:11:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B66FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:01:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4942363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:45:19 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67JjIHX018035 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:45:18 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.184]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707194518.YOZW5760.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:45:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.184]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707194518.TDH25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:45:18 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD85AE.3040103@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:42:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Latvian Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is the Dz in this Latvian name part of the last name? Ilze Sprogis Dz Rucksans -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 15:11:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67KBkJr030340 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:11:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:11:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B674D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:05:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4944632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:00:55 -0400 Received: from S4.cableone.net (s4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67K0t0L020210 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:00:55 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 24746385 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:27:21 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:01:11 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:00:38 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1421841489.20050707140038@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: increased privacy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 251, in=92359, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Washington Metro Transit Police have deployed special response teams, armed with machine guns, and bomb-sniffing dogs to patrol subway stations, trains and buses, according to a statement from Metro Transit Police. Metrorail station restrooms also have been temporarily closed for security reasons. ---------------- Above is from a CNN website article on increased security in the US. Wonder what all those metrorail folks who've gotta go do? I know vagrants don't hesitate to pee in public, but the rest of us??? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 15:11:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67KBkJr030336 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:11:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:11:59 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B653C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:01:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4942329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:44:01 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Ji03A017937 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:44:01 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050707194359012009ta6he>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:44:00 +0000 Message-ID: <42CD85FF.9090509@istori.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:43:59 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BIA References: <20050706101711.26169.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> In-Reply-To: <20050706101711.26169.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, > Phone freaks could sit and yak all day and night to their friends > in faraway places (domestic only, though). Our only landline is Vonage. Our total phone bill for it -- local, long distance, taxes, fees, everything -- is $27.24 flat. The last few months we've used about 80 hours per month, mostly me doing long-distance telecommuting. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 15:21:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67KLIJr031957 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:21:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:21:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01004412@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:21:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4946567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:21:17 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67KLHSm024703 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:21:17 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.184]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707202117.EVOT26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:21:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.184]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707202116.PPGN29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:21:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD8EBB.3040903@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:21:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: > I'm finalizing my speech for tonight. Question: > > Did Brad Grissom EVER attend the annual July list event? > > In other words, would it be accurate to say (as part of making a larger > point) that he NEVER did? NO! I bet I'm too late in replying -- but I bet others have replied. I just glanced down at new list mail and saw this subject header. Brad was at Clambake, Salmonbake, GoatRoast, Slugfest, and maybe another I've forgetting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 15:34:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67KYlJr001302 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:34:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:34:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0100443D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:24:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4946914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:24:46 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67KOkmj025247 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:24:46 -0400 Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.184]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707202442.FDTW26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:24:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.184]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707202442.PUPR29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:24:42 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD8F88.1010902@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:24:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Another Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anybody know what region of Latvia Kaugaros is/was in? The tombstone says this person was born in Kaugaros, Latvia. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 15:36:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67KabJr001582 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:36:38 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:36:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01004494@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:36:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4947709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:36:37 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67Kaael027034 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:36:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005070720335501300dc403e>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:33:55 +0000 Message-ID: <42CD91B3.2070605@istori.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:33:55 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: London Bomb Blasts on Flickr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My heart-felt sympathies to the victims of today's bombings in London. It's a terrible thing. Here are some of the links for photo coverage via Flickr: London Bomb Blasts http://www.flickr.com/groups/bomb/ Hearts for London http://www.flickr.com/groups/heartsforlondon/ tag queries: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/blast/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/bomb/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/bombing/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/bombings/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/terrorist/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/terrorists/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/7july/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/july7/ Pete http://peterkaminski.com/archives/000456.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 15:39:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67KcvJr001810 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:38:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:39:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01004466@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:38:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4947815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:38:57 -0400 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67KcvO7027236 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:38:57 -0400 Received: from ibm69aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.184]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707203857.FVQW12836.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm69aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:38:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.184]) by ibm69aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707203856.EVXC13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:38:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD92DE.1050607@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:38:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: And Another Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What region of Latvia is/was Koknese in? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 15:42:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67KgVJr002228 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:42:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:42:39 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.010044B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:42:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4948024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:42:31 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67KgVlU027705 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:42:31 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 14so134378nzn for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.11 with SMTP id x11mr420987nzx; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:42:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HUqJv2c+YISEdMsgl/MqMb1czzqP8dA/sSkE9K4nBAghyoh2uxsg/UZuKoi0XdcXH49yEA3Is6DXPGsNRQSyFOLRd84ErGcwPeIsrtKqai8T3ACO3gI1S+X5fXTv1FIvaKHq5XF8yOjqJ98rh0J1bK1wPDPkg5pZM97FC7Io2aM= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070713422d0b261@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:42:30 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j67KgVlU027707 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You will think that you were, or that I was? :) Karen On 7/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > me too > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/07/05 1:35 PM >>> > y'all kept me so well informed that I do feel like I was at > FingerFest. I am sure that when I am in the nursing home I will think > that I was. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 16:06:26 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67L6LJr006823 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:06:22 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:06:26 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0100456C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:06:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4949490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:06:21 -0400 Received: from web60719.mail.yahoo.com (web60719.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.178.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j67L6Kbb030679 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:06:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 59369 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jul 2005 21:06:20 -0000 Received: from [209.192.121.146] by web60719.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:06:20 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=f4KNn8kozwji442/ZrD9+TGlZexbTK2PZ4dDTkRnU1tlRuly6yZihpVA8j8gnm0rE9PGDsB0TUuC4vjHZvCIBek6LBRHGLnpLS02QPpZ9g3JPf5VE2HMFL12Z6JjG7JB27YRFgfJK46tzu1eisp+ieFfc2s8w7G/yNs/zS/MML0= ; Message-ID: <20050707210620.59367.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:06:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Another Question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <42CD8F88.1010902@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Anybody know what region of Latvia Kaugaros is/was > in? The tombstone > says this person was born in Kaugaros, Latvia. No, no! Kaugaros live Down Under. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 16:13:02 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67LCvJr007590 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:12:58 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:13:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.010046B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:12:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4951960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:12:56 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67LCupj031882 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:12:56 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:12:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:12:35 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU both >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/07/05 4:42 PM >>> You will think that you were, or that I was? :) Karen On 7/7/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > me too > > BrP > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/07/05 1:35 PM >>> > y'all kept me so well informed that I do feel like I was at > FingerFest. I am sure that when I am in the nursing home I will think > that I was. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 17:43:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67MhlJr019912 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:43:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:43:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01004936@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:43:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4956863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:43:43 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67MXgqe009056 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:33:42 -0400 Received: by green.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 1310) id 76037BE8C1; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB85C2849; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Bookrat To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: Lawrence Kestenbaum Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Moxy-Fruvous: Damn that rising entropy! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU He was at Slugfest. From the second floor of Marty's house, he regaled those of us out in the back yard by a reading of Wittgenstein in the style of a speech by Adolf Hitler. You hadda be there. Ken Miller Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 18:32:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67NWJJr026532 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:32:20 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:32:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01004B47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:32:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4961850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:32:19 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67NWIbZ017176 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:32:18 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-164-56.gwi.net [216.195.164.56]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j67NWEU1007120; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:32:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050707193052.01c0ba30@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:32:08 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:33 PM 7/7/2005, Bookrat wrote: >He was at Slugfest. From the second floor of Marty's house, he regaled >those of us out in the back yard by a reading of Wittgenstein in the >style of a speech by Adolf Hitler. You hadda be there. I wish I had been. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 18:43:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67NhIJr027644 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:43:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:43:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01004B22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4962160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67NhHBm018084 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.184]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707234317.JLWR2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:43:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.184]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707234316.ZSWD6485.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:43:16 -0400 Message-ID: <42CDBE13.3030902@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:43:15 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >>There are lots of graves from it on FindaGrave. >> >> >What's the name of it?! > > Swan Lake? Something like that. BrP mentioned its name earlier today. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 18:44:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j67NiNJr027746 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:44:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:44:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01004B73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:44:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4962175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:44:23 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j67NiME3018147 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:44:22 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.184]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707234422.JOWN2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:44:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.184]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050707234422.ZUML6485.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:44:22 -0400 Message-ID: <42CDBE54.50404@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:44:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Swan Point. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1584940&CScn=swan&CSst=42& -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 19:08:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68083Jr030584 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:08:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:08:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01004BEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:08:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4963098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:08:03 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68083b2020101 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:08:03 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.184]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708000803.HGLS2451.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:08:03 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.184]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708000802.QPHF2915.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:08:02 -0400 Message-ID: <42CDC395.3080304@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:06:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> <8ddfc8a705070710241ccb598a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070710241ccb598a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >Wasn't he at SalmonBake? > > Most definitely. He met my plane. Was that when he took the train to the northwest, or was the train time the Seattle Pre-Clam Slam? On both occasions he was staying with relatives. It was that day he met my plane in Portland that I realized that his drinking problem was truly a problem, not just the vacation frivolity that I had written it off to at the Pre-Clam Slam and then at Clambake. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 19:13:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j680D8Jr031271 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:13:12 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:13:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01004BEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:13:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4963243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:13:08 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j680D7UW020430 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:13:07 -0400 Received: from ibm59aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.184]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708001307.HJAQ2451.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm59aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:13:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.184]) by ibm59aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708001307.QPYP2915.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:13:07 -0400 Message-ID: <42CDC4B5.6080805@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:11:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102933.026596f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102933.026596f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Can you spot him at Salmon bake here? > > http://words-l.org/FTFs.html Easily: in front of Neal. Why is there no Clambake picture in that group? And what about Jigglefest? I remember seeing pictures of it. Where are they? I can't remember whether I took my camera to Jigglefest. If I did, there are probably pictures in a shoebox somewhere. But I do remember that there were online pictures at some point. We talked about Elaine's blue jumper compared to Amy's blue jumper. And we talked about the hunk Elaine was with. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 19:25:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j680OxJr000010 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:25:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:25:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01004C2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:24:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4963624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:24:59 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j680OwpT021364 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:24:58 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.184]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708002459.YQYE15437.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:24:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.184]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708002458.BUDK25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:24:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42CDC782.9080609@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:23:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD63AA.30802@bc.edu> <8ddfc8a705070710241ccb598a@mail.gmail.com> <1673966043.20050707120340@gailndan.com> <8ddfc8a705070711082bf20c83@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a705070711082bf20c83@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy wrote: >He was scarce; I think that was his last one. > > He didn't hang out with us at Jurassic Park, though he did stop there when delivering me so that he could get a beer out of the trunk of the car. This was about 11 a.m. and was clearly not his first of the day. And no, I am not Brad. I would never in a million years do that. He had a serious problem -- and was aware of it -- and talked about it, as I'm sure most of you know. He referred to himself as an alcoholic and not a "recovering" one. But re his "last one," Salmonbake was not his last fest. He attended at least two after that -- GoatRoast the next year and then Slugfest a few years later. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 19:28:41 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j680SaJr000536 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:28:37 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:28:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01004C48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:28:35 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4963795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:28:36 -0400 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j680SZXu021670 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:28:35 -0400 Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.214.184]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708002835.YRRO15437.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:28:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.214.184]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708002835.BUMH25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:28:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42CDC864.9060301@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:27:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Another Question References: <20050707210620.59367.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050707210620.59367.qmail@web60719.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>says this person was born in Kaugaros, Latvia. >> >> >No, no! Kaugaros live Down Under. > > That is in fact what Google thought when I googled for 'kaugaros latvia" -- it asked if I meant 'kangaroo latvia.' I gave up and just said that the person was born in Latvia -- didn't include a region. Ditto that later one I asked about. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 20:37:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j681bDJr009209 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:37:14 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:37:18 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01004D62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:37:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4966151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:37:12 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j681bC9R027741; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:37:12 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119521478; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:37:11 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707183803.0260de20@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:39:02 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My favorite memory of that fest! Betty At 03:33 PM 7/7/2005, Bookrat wrote: >He was at Slugfest. From the second floor of Marty's house, he regaled >those of us out in the back yard by a reading of Wittgenstein in the >style of a speech by Adolf Hitler. You hadda be there. > >Ken Miller >Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Jul 7 22:47:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j683l3Jr024529 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:47:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:47:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.010050EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:47:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4974210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:46:57 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j683krcX008398 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:46:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01005139@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:46:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200507080346.j683krcX008398@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:46:53 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:39:02 -0700, Betty Clark wrote: >My favorite memory of that fest! > >Betty > >At 03:33 PM 7/7/2005, Bookrat wrote: >>He was at Slugfest. From the second floor of Marty's house, he regaled >>those of us out in the back yard by a reading of Wittgenstein in the >>style of a speech by Adolf Hitler. You hadda be there. >> >>Ken Miller >>Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies I will forever be sorry to have missed that. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 00:47:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j685lpJr007210 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:47:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:47:57 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.010053E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 1:47:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4980264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:47:50 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j685lnnA018680 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:47:50 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03AB2B8E7 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Paul-Barfoot: Any degree of subtlety invites obsession with irrelevant detail X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:47:27 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: 12 egg slots Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The refrigerator in my new apartment has 12 egg slots. On the outside it doesn't look old enough to have egg slots at all, but inside the door, along the top, it has egg slots AND a butter whatchamacallit. (Drawer? Cover?) I've only moved about three miles, and I'm still in Mountain View, but I'm now much closer to the downtown area, which is a model of gentrification: there are at least seven gourmet coffee shops but not a single place to get a cooked breakfast, and there are expensive eateries in a double-dozen ethnicities but not one restaurant where one can get a comfortable lunch for under ten dollars. I'm paying a little bit less rent for a little bit more square footage, plus -- I have a balcony! The fact that the view from my balcony consists mainly of a carport and the backsides of surrounding apartment complexes is not that important compared to the mere fact that I can sit outside on a pleasant evening with a beer and book. Every one of us has a little pleasure that means much, and this happens to be mine. Due to the constraints of the fiscal year, and the necessity to use up professional development money that would vanish otherwise, I spent the week before my move cramming for three (out of seven) MCSE certification tests, resulting in my brain being even more fried at the moment than it otherwise would be after mere packing and schlepping and unpacking. In a world where timing is everything, I seem to be the Li'l-Abnerian Joe Btfsplk of timing. My internal soundtrack would now be playing Warren Zevon's "Poor, poor pitiful me" if I weren't so mentally fried that I've actually reached a state of contentment. Tomorrow I will sleep late, stow away all the kitchen stuff that is now strewn across any formerly free surface (a story too long and boring to tell), and perhaps find time to pot and start to train the two trumpet vines that will, with any luck, festoon my balcony's rails with mauve and blood-red flowers next summer. Maybe by the beginning of next week I will have begun to read, with great pleasure, the accounts of this weeks Finger Festivities. Ken Miller Moving Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 03:10:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6889xJr023527 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 03:10:02 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:10:06 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0100563E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 4:09:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4984462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:09:58 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j6889vWO029345 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:09:58 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070810081113933 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:08:11 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:09:56 +0200 Message-ID: <42CE34D3.9050202@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:09:55 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42CD38FC.4070706@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42CD38FC.4070706@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2005 08:09:56.0575 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D84DEF0:01C58394] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor skrev 07.07.2005 16:15: > Betty Clark wrote: > >> Natalie, we really enjoyed visiting the cemeteries. It was always a nice >> break with excellent views. > > > New York does good cemeteries. I don't remember seeing a single ugly > one. By "ugly" I don't mean . Some of the prettiest are kind > of -- like the one in Ithaca. Ugly ones to me are flat and > unshady with ugly artificial flowers. > The most special cemetery I have seen was in Nesseby county in Finnmark (near Vadsø for the hurtigruten-experts): http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2003/churchyard.jpg Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 03:32:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j688WUJr025163 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 03:32:31 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:32:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B7761@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 4:22:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4984796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:22:29 -0400 Received: from nb-vw.nb.no (nb-vw.nb.no [158.39.129.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j688MScK030542 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:22:28 -0400 Received: from NB-EXCH1.nb.local ([158.39.121.11]) by nb-vw.nb.no (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005070810204214015 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:20:42 +0200 Received: from [128.39.111.19] ([128.39.111.19]) by NB-EXCH1.nb.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:22:27 +0200 Message-ID: <42CE37C2.1060906@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:22:26 +0200 From: "Espen S. Ore" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD31FB.6000403@gmail.com> <8ddfc8a70507070715244cbfa2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70507070715244cbfa2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2005 08:22:27.0341 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D02ABD0:01C58396] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A Friend of Andy skrev 07.07.2005 16:15: >On 7/7/05, Espen S. Ore wrote: > > >>The Grove Street cemetery in New Haven? My uncle and aunt are buried there. >> >> > >I didn't realize they were taking . I partly like it for >the historicity, partly for the architecture. > > > I found more than 1200 names from Grove Street cemetery in Find A Grave, but not my uncle or my aunt (or my cousin's husband who is also buried there). But I found another Norwegian who was buried there in 1976: *http://tinyurl.com/cjlg8 Espen * From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 06:19:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68BJWJr016606 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 06:19:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:19:40 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.010058B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 7:09:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4989436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:09:31 -0400 Received: from bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68B9VIX005965 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:09:31 -0400 Received: from [136.167.88.178] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu [136.167.88.178] verified) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 98431740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:06:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42CE5EE7.7080107@bc.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:09:27 -0400 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102933.026596f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42CDC4B5.6080805@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42CDC4B5.6080805@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> http://words-l.org/FTFs.html > > > Why is there no Clambake picture in that group? ?? It is there. It is the one labeled 1992 and captioned > The next year a list clambake was held July 5 in Bristol, Rhode Island. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 06:19:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68BJWJr016608 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 06:19:33 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:19:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0100588C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 7:15:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4989611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:15:57 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68BFuQ0006885 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:15:56 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.82]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708111556.UZDQ1983.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:15:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.82]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708111556.GMZQ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:15:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42CE606A.9060207@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:15:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42CD38FC.4070706@maynor.net> <42CE34D3.9050202@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42CE34D3.9050202@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen S. Ore wrote: > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2003/churchyard.jpg Nice picture and nice cemetery! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 06:25:18 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68BPAJr017173 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 06:25:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:25:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B7950@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 7:15:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4989597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:15:05 -0400 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68BF4pF006737 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:15:04 -0400 Received: from ibm62aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.82]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708111504.UYRW1983.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm62aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:15:04 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.82]) by ibm62aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708111503.GMSG8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:15:03 -0400 Message-ID: <42CE6035.30706@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:15:01 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 12 egg slots References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >not that important compared to the mere fact that I can sit outside on a >pleasant evening with a beer and book. Every one of us has a little >pleasure that means much, and this happens to be mine. > > Yes! I can't stand the thought of being trapped inside a dwelling. I have to have some kind of outside space, no matter how humble or unscenic. So was the balcony why you moved? >week before my move cramming for three (out of seven) MCSE certification > > What is MCSE? Monitor of Computer Science Evolution? >Tomorrow I will sleep late, stow away all the kitchen stuff that is now >strewn across any formerly free surface (a story too long and boring to >tell), and perhaps find time to pot and start to train the two trumpet >vines that will, with any luck, festoon my balcony's rails with mauve and >blood-red flowers next summer. > > Sounds good. But I want to hear the long, boring story. I find tales of interesting. >Maybe by the beginning of next week I will have begun to read, with great >pleasure, the accounts of this weeks Finger Festivities. > > We wished for you. You would've loved it. And that reminds me of the beer I had on clo's porch upon arrival Sunday when I was too thirsty to start with wine. I had meant to try to find some in a store to bring home since I found it especially good. It was presumably a local (regional), judging from the name, which was something like Saranac. But I forgot. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 06:35:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68BZfJr018386 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 06:35:42 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:35:47 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.010058C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 7:35:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4990054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:35:41 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68BZe11009315 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:35:40 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.82]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708113540.JGSD2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:35:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.82]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708113540.PJAR6485.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:35:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42CE650A.1050209@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:35:38 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Urgent Brad question References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102933.026596f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42CDC4B5.6080805@maynor.net> <42CE5EE7.7080107@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <42CE5EE7.7080107@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: >>> http://words-l.org/FTFs.html >> >> Why is there no Clambake picture in that group? > > ?? It is there. It is the one labeled 1992 and captioned It's there this morning! Last night I had a blank space there, with a little dead-picture mark. Maybe my computer was tired. I do think this computer needs some TLC. For some reason my laptop came with the full Norton stuff installed, but this one came with just Norton anti-virus and net-security stuff -- no "one-button checkup." I miss one-button checkup, which finds and corrects assorted messes. Who would y'all say has changed the most in appearance between Clambake and Fingerfest? My vote is here: > http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/clamfing.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 06:49:59 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68BnpJr020300 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 06:49:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:49:58 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01005935@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 7:49:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4990510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:49:50 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68BnonB011142 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:49:50 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119618325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:49:49 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050708044827.026a4ce0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:51:39 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CE606A.9060207@maynor.net> References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42CD38FC.4070706@maynor.net> <42CE34D3.9050202@gmail.com> <42CE606A.9060207@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:15 AM 7/8/2005, you wrote: >Espen S. Ore wrote: > >>http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2003/churchyard.jpg > >Nice picture and nice cemetery! > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes. I also remember walking around Norway and some cemeteries were almost right downtown. I mean, people were sitting on benches and eating their lunch. They were like parks and many had stone birds on top of tombstones. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 07:15:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68CErJr023608 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:14:54 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:15:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0100598B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 8:14:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4991840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:14:48 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68CElCX014713 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:14:47 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j68CEfj5029685 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:14:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:14:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Brad's memorial service Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Brad's memorial service was held yesterday at 5:00 pm, at the Niles Gallery in the Little Fine Arts Library on the University of Kentucky campus. The room is something of an oddity in an otherwise blah 1974 library building. It's churchlike, symmetrical, with the center section having a higher ceiling; the walls around the side sections are elegantly paneled in an unfamiliar orange wood. At the focal point, behind the podium, is a grand piano, which was not used while I was there; flanking the piano are hinged two-panel screens made from (or perhaps cast in plaster from) old doors, with shadowy writing across them. There were about 50 upholstered wooden chairs, arranged in straight rows to either side of a center aisle, and not all of these were filled by the attendees at the service. The program gave Brad's full name as "Bradley O'Neill Grissom", with his dates as 1948-2005, and opened with this quote: He was a lifelong bachelor but the intricacies of human relationships never ceased to fascinate and delight him. He loved books and movies and the rich tapestry of life. His family and friends will note his passing with a warm smile of remembrance. Stephanie Aken, who was mainly responsible for putting this event together, was the low-key master of ceremonies, and briefly introduced each speaker. There were twelve speakers listed on the program; one apparently declined to speak, and another was ill, but there were also unscheduled speakers. Some of the speakers had come from as far away as oregon, Arizona, and Missouri. Almost all the speakers were librarians. Several of them had lived, as Brad did, in an apartment building on Mill Street (apparently one of the few places librarians can afford to live in Lexington) and been part of "the Mill Street Gang" (a social group in this librarian ghetto). words-L was mentioned by several of the speakers. I had not known that Brad had learned the Polish language in the military, and had been assigned to read Polish newspapers and listen to Polish radio broadcasts for military intelligence purposes. Further, Brad had been fascinated by German language and culture, and probably the best speech was done by James Burgett, a German scholar and UK librarian. Burgett noted that there were two words for "word" in German, the-word-isolated and the-word-in-context, and both senses were important to Brad. He distributed copies of a poem by Rainer Maria Rilke, "Der Panther", in German, with six very different English translations. Rilke's poetry is simple in form, with common words and easy grammar, yet impossible to translate adequately. One of those attempts at translation is as follows: The Panther (Jardin des Plantes, Paris) His tired gaze - from passing endless bars - has turned into a vacant stare which nothing h olds To him, there seem to be a thousand bars, and out beyond these bars exists no world. His supple gait, the smoothness of strong strides that gently turn in ever smaller circles perform a sance of strength, centered deep within a will, stunned, but untamed, indomitable. But sometimes the curttains of his eyelids part the pupils of his eyes dilate as images of past encounters enter while through his limbs a tension strains in silence only to cease to be, to die within his heart. I spoke approximately as follows: I'm here today on behalf of the hundreds of people who knew Brad Grissom through Words-L, the English Language Discussion Group on the Internet. Though perhaps a plurality of Wordslers (as we call ourselves) are academics or librarians, the membership is extremely diverse, and in its heyday, it was an unruly place where debates would often escalate into arguments and flame wars among these highly educated, articulate, and opinionated men and women. Brad Grissom, with his gentleness and civility, was one of the people who helped make this wide-open, brawling forum into a community. He revealed a lot about himself to us, but he was a lot less forthcoming with his own political views than we usually were. I finally got to meet Brad in person when my wife and I visited Lexington some years ago. He was eager to show me the historical and architectural riches here, and enlisted Jim Birchfield to give us a thorough tour. Brad was very excited about my project to catalog politician burial locations which later became the Political Graveyard web site. Of course, he took me to the Lexington Cemetery to see the colossal monument to Henry Clay. And we all talked for some time (at the Atomic Cafe, as Jim Birchfield just reminded me) about Clay's enduring influence in this town. That was a memorable day. I've been asked to read two letters of tribute from Wordslers who knew Brad well. They are very different in style and content, one more historical and cerebral, the other more anguished, but it occurred to me on the way here what these two women have in common: they have both been married for years to men that they met through Words-L. And then I read Anne's letter as follows: My Memories of Brad Grissom by Anne Toal Back in the Dark Ages, that brief period in the development of the Internet before everything was pictures and music and video, we communicated by typing words on a cathode ray tube display. As more and more people began to get online, the net gradually woke up and became self-aware, and it began to ask questions about itself. Who are we? What do we like to talk about? Net denizens began to congregate in discussion groups sorted by common interests, and these groups were named according to the ostensible topic of discussion. One of these groups was named Words-L, and its putative reason for being was the discussion of the English Language. Its earliest members were professors and librarians, with a smattering of other university types. This was 1989, and everything on the net was just words glowing on a screen. There couldn't have been a more perfect place for Brad Grissom. In that low-bandwidth environment, where every byte was parceled out with an eyedropper, Brad's posts on Words-L were treasured by all. Words-L rapidly grew into a chatty, convivial place notorious for topic drift. The English Language was discussed, yes, but frequently the discussions were also about the number of egg slots in a refrigerator, or whether anyone had ever seen a headless chicken. In these fertile grounds Brad's creative juices flowed freely. Brad became one of the Words-L Giants, members whose influence was so pervasive, and whose postings were so wonderful that he permanently endeared himself to the group. His posts were, above all, profoundly human. He felt things deeply, and one suspects, painfully at times. On Words-L, Brad opened a corner of his soul up for public inspection. Another thing Brad did in his posts was show what it meant to be a Southern Gentleman in the late 20^th Century. He never did anything as obvious as instructing the reader that "such-and-such a thing happens like this because this is the South." But every post was embued with the same unique mixture of irony, sadness, and amusement that you can read in Faulkner and Welty. It flowed out of him naturally. No brag, just fact. Finally, Brad was a lover of words, books, and libraries. I remember one post where he worried that libraries were doomed by Barnes & Noble and Borders because they had coffee shops. He saw the new world coming and it wasn't entirely to his liking. He grieved over the loss of the card catalog. I don't know how he felt about the coming of computer labs to the university library. The net isn't the same place it used to be. The purity of words glowing on a CRT has been supplanted by videos, music, spam, and computer viruses. There will never be another place like Words-L either-there can't be. The world has changed too much since 1989, and now we've lost one of our giants. Words-L will carry on, of course, and Brad will never be forgotten. We've got a web site to make sure that doesn't happen. I hope that in whatever kind of Heaven it is that librarians ascend to, Brad is sitting with a computer keyboard and a glass of cold beer, getting ready to post something to the heavenly host that'll have them all chattering and throwing comeback lines at each other for the next millennium of so. Why not? And then I read Marcia's letter as follows: Dear Brad, These are the times when I understand why people believe in life after death. It is not because they want to go on living forever. It is because they want their loved ones to still be with them and hope that they still can see how much they meant to us. So Brad, I really hope you are there so you can see how much you meant to me, your evil twin Torkel and all of the Wordslers. When I heard about your passing, my first reaction was, "That idiot! How you could leave us?!" And then I cried. We only met once face to face but it was something I'll never forget. You took me on that wonderful trip around the South, as a favor to Torkel. Lexington, Tupelo, New Orleans and Memphis. You showed them all to me with the grace of a Southern gentleman. I loved your drawl, I loved how you called me "Miss Marcia" and I loved your conversation hour after hour on the road. You treated me like a queen. After the trip, we slowly lost contact. You quit writing. Every once in a while, you'd call or write out of the blue and it felt like it was just yesterday since we talked. I was disappointed that you didn't write but somehow I understood. Something was troubling you and I never really got to know what. But you were always in my thoughts and I worried about you. Dearest Brad, I hope you can look down and see us crying. I don't think you ever realized the impact you had on me and the rest of the world and I don't think you realized how much we cared. Good-bye and I love you. Marcia I closed by announcing the memorial contributions Wordslers had made to the Lee County Library in Tupelo, Mississippi. The final speaker read a passage which I have heard often in our synagogue: Life is finite. Like a candle, it burns, it glows, it is radiant with warmth and beauty; then it fades; its substance is consumed, and it is no more. In light we see; in light we are seen. The flames dance and our lives are full. But as night follows day, the candle of our life burns down and gutters. There is an end to the flames. We see no more and are no more seen. Yet we do not despair, for we are more than a memory slowly fading into the darkness. With our lives we give life. Something of us can never die: we move in the eternal cycle of darkness and death, of light and life. After the service, there was a reception in the adjoining room. Various Brad memoribilia was on display in the hallway, including a tablet showing Brad's web site, with the face morphing back and forth from Brad to Elvis. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 07:17:28 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68CHMJr023913 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:17:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:17:27 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0100599A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 8:17:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4991986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:17:22 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68CHM6H015076 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:17:22 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:17:21 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:16:50 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One of my all time favorite cemeteries is this one: http://www-us.flickr.com/photos/davidcharding/20510657/ I spent the better part of an afternoon exploring it one summer day in 1966. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 07:35:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68CYuJr026025 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:34:57 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:35:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01005A71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 8:34:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4993281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:34:55 -0400 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68CYrQ3018563 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:34:53 -0400 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01005A5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 8:34:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200507081234.j68CYrQ3018563@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:34:53 -0400 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:14:41 -0400, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >Brad's memorial service was held yesterday at 5:00 pm, at the Niles >Gallery in the Little Fine Arts Library on the University of Kentucky >campus. Thanks, Larry. It was a wonderful telling. You did Brad proud. Did Heather contact you? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 07:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68CaIJr026311 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:36:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:36:23 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B7B11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 8:36:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4993406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:36:18 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68CaIXu018836 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:36:18 -0400 Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([70.144.196.82]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708123617.LZNY2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:36:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [70.144.196.82]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050708123617.QZJP6485.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:36:17 -0400 Message-ID: <42CE733E.80303@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:36:14 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wonderful report, Larry! Thank you, thank you -- both for the detailed report and for being there as our representative! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 07:39:20 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68CdEJr026657 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:39:15 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:39:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01005A8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 8:39:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4993552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:39:14 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68CdEMn019332 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:39:14 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j68CdD03030478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:39:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:39:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service In-Reply-To: <200507081234.j68CYrQ3018563@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200507081234.j68CYrQ3018563@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Thanks, Larry. It was a wonderful telling. You did Brad proud. I keep thinking of things I should have said. Oh, well. > Did Heather contact you? No. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 07:59:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68Cx6Jr029419 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:59:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:59:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B7ACF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 8:59:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4994658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:59:05 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68Cx5Fd022064 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:59:05 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so420104wri for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.100.5 with SMTP id x5mr1676384wrb; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.52.19 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:59:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Nas8Nnvt4DdQ0houSMqQuY8eGtTLxZrwRiAz7PQAjnJ3xW7S9Sll9+CkHe60hiOy3wrPBto1500tMsxn1foUYNMfrbFQtwNFTtSi0QKVy9RXVmQLR8UDTR6RKEl7P2LoY+vvhb6XTaHjdidriniudtKz+BumiqP2DnlJEHT17ZE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:59:05 -0300 From: Marieber Meeber Reply-To: Marieber Meeber To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 12 egg slots In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j68Cx6Jr029419 On 7/8/05, Bookrat wrote: not that important compared to the mere fact that I can sit outside on a pleasant evening with a beer and book. Every one of us has a little pleasure that means much, and this happens to be mine. Totally agree. Maybe the only apartment I ever lived in without direct outdoor access was our Manhattan apt. but it did have a most excellent rooftop some 13 stories up. Suddenly I'm finding it interesting to remember all of my porches, decks, and balconies: the center city (Phila) rooftop deck, the East River balcony, the Brooklyn garden. Ah even the sad little cement back porch at my last Brooklyn apt. Memories... -- Marie marieber@gmail.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 08:22:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68DMNJr000169 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:22:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:22:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01005B1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 9:00:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4994755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:00:02 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68Cxnor022182 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:59:49 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119629157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:59:48 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050708060118.026085a0@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:01:39 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you, Larry. Very well done. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 08:22:33 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68DMNJr000168 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:22:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:22:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01005ADF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 8:52:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4994316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:52:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68CqLeR021226 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:52:22 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so449262wra for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.47.44 with SMTP id u44mr1538843wru; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.63.10 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:52:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QQrI69KvpEwsjkEgv3VXWyIFWXbJA0qSNRcvC5tqiuilfy1iHh6Eo7VFuBeJ8cNBw0gYsu+OMbwnUrZoIg0kRHXMFhMT6EJgY9v37iErkNru5UyvaNdn4qq+K77CDlHs3xkf1iW3PRjWky5xRDR96v0vXgMSaem6XQEGCKPW6ys= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:52:21 -0400 From: bonniemaev Reply-To: bonniemaev To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: <42CE34D3.9050202@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42CD38FC.4070706@maynor.net> <42CE34D3.9050202@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j68DMNJr000168 > > The most special cemetery I have seen was in Nesseby county in Finnmark > (near Vadsø for the hurtigruten-experts): > > http://folk.uio.no/espeo/2003/churchyard.jpg > Espen That looks exactly like the cemetery I noticed one day, after many times of walking past it, in the woods off the path that leads from Indian Point here on the island. Bar Harbor's largest cemeteries are just outside of town. But we also have a small cemetery, next to a church, right in the village. I remarked on it a few years ago because of the terminology it uses for the Civil War. There is a large monument erected to "The Sons of Eden who died in the War to Preserve the Union." Eden was the name of the village of Bar Harbor from 1796 to 1918 when it was officially changed to Bar Harbor because that's what everyone called it anyway, after the township. -- --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 08:42:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68DfpJr003073 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:41:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:42:03 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01005CCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 9:41:51 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4998695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:41:51 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68DfpUh030833 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:41:51 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so425127wra for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.4 with SMTP id 4mr1732165wrz; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qMkm9UZHb3ySmtquhdCJo7oQxWlBdPPJL2u48QxpLm81nHNtVKK8NcXvbqSDzynw9nneB7kUQ1B9L7UPFfoEROHmLLVGhOeimff2VGikUVWABWZ16gNak1PwSupsQsgoVZU3gONbNaYfAORIfbuWoCFeqvhHHBM926j7EoLUwsw= Message-ID: <83db447a05070806414f18df36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:41:50 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 12 egg slots In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j68DfpJr003073 On 7/8/05, Bookrat wrote: > > The refrigerator in my new apartment has 12 egg slots. On the outside it > doesn't look old enough to have egg slots at all, but inside the door, > along the top, it has egg slots AND a butter whatchamacallit. Congratulations 12 times over. We have no such, but we do have a length-of-door butter thingy with a curved drop-down cover. It occasionally holds a little butter but more often a cut onion, lemon, and lime. I'm paying a little bit less rent for a little bit more square footage, > plus -- I have a balcony! The fact that the view from my balcony consists > mainly of a carport and the backsides of surrounding apartment complexes > is > not that important compared to the mere fact that I can sit outside on a > pleasant evening with a beer and book. Every one of us has a little > pleasure that means much, and this happens to be mine. I'm happy for you. As you can tell by my e early-evening ruminations, my time on the back deck is special to me. > > Tomorrow I will sleep late, stow away all the kitchen stuff that is now > strewn across any formerly free surface (a story too long and boring to > tell), That's hardly a constraint on this list. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 08:47:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68DlPJr003823 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:47:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:47:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01005D17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 9:47:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4998057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:47:24 -0400 Received: from picanteperosabroso.com ([60.17.184.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j68DXYgl028352 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:37:20 -0400 Received: from mexxxico.com (mexxxico-com.mr.outblaze.com [205.158.62.181]) by picanteperosabroso.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7104AACD for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:37:39 -0500 From: "Gypping C. Limoges" To: Words Subject: The Ultimate Online Pharmaceutical Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:37:39 -0500 Message-ID: <011001c5836e$2e2023ec$eb8c46ac@mexxxico.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1082 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 mion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Ultimate Online Pharmaceutical http://variousus.net/?GFSMKDRl1BUEYcXnNYXEJGQFFHRxxGU1QfV1dB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 08:56:51 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68DujJr004830 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:56:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:56:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01005D69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 9:56:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4999942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:56:45 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68Dugib001353 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:56:42 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o37so197504nzf for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.222.14 with SMTP id u14mr666461nzg; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.66.17 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 06:56:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FwCZV/614txq6Dfo8jq8JE/+K6H1SJrlNjCW4XcE9ioJNBpnQr1uaSeseCV4nXoRXUh13rTrmf9Xj4jZUlQCr1t90KYuCRirMB8CxZjZ+NKsf8KBkyN+5y7B+KplWYYBUM9LaMttYKIrIL7+fO7JGOybKwaeo7IIbg8mNmhoVS0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:56:42 -0400 From: Ben Ostrowsky Reply-To: Ben Ostrowsky To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Latvian In-Reply-To: <42CD85AE.3040103@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CD85AE.3040103@maynor.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j68Dugib001356 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Is the Dz in this Latvian name part of the last name? > Ilze Sprogis Dz Rucksans I'm not a genealogy expert, but the "Genealogy-related words" table on this page makes me think it's likely an abbreviation of "dzimiz", or in , née. http://feefhs.org/BALTIC/LV/frg-dag.html So I'd read that as "Ilse SPROGIS (née RUCKSANS)". Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 09:18:35 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68EIRJr007366 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:18:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:18:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01005D4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 9:58:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5000192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:58:26 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (lisa.sm.luth.se [130.240.3.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68DwP3Q001791 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:58:25 -0400 Received: from sm.luth.se (beta19.sm.ltu.se [130.240.45.65]) by sm.luth.se (8.12.9/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j68DwLiQ019711 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:58:21 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200507081358.j68DwLiQ019711@sm.luth.se> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:14:41 EDT." Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:58:21 +0200 From: Torkel Franzen Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry says: >Burgett noted that there were two words for "word" in >German, the-word-isolated and the-word-in-context, and both senses were >important to Brad. I believe that there is only one singular word, Wort, but it has two plurals, Worte and Wörter, as indicated. I sense Brad's spirit nodding in agreement from a corner of the room, or possibly that is just one of the cats complaining about the heat. Certain Texan Wordslers would think this laughable, but to us it is sweltering. >I spoke approximately as follows: Well said, and thank you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 09:55:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68EtlJr012035 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:55:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:55:55 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01006009@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:45:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5005670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:45:46 -0400 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68Ejj6H012824 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:45:45 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-148.gwi.net [216.195.163.148]) by pan.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j68Ejfwm058448; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:45:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050708102539.01c00120@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:26:48 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service In-Reply-To: <200507081358.j68DwLiQ019711@sm.luth.se> References: <200507081358.j68DwLiQ019711@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:58 AM 7/8/2005, Torkel Franzen wrote: > I sense Brad's spirit nodding in agreement from a corner of the room, >or possibly that is just one of the cats complaining about the heat. >Certain Texan Wordslers would think this laughable, but to us it is >sweltering. 22C, 61% RH---Not uncomfortable for me, but trending that way. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 11:21:39 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68GLHJr022307 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:21:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:21:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01006420@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:19:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5014325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:19:42 -0400 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68G9fNv030902 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:09:41 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([82.44.219.28]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:10:24 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <42CE6035.30706@maynor.net> References: <42CE6035.30706@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roy Jaques Subject: Re: 12 egg slots Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:11:17 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2005 16:10:24.0358 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C377860:01C583D7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 8 Jul 2005, at 12:15, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >> week before my move cramming for three (out of seven) MCSE >> certification >> > What is MCSE? Monitor of Computer Science Evolution? It means Bookrat has joined the dark side. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 11:21:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68GLHJr022305 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:21:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:21:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0100632A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:52:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5012639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:52:47 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (s2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68FqePG026877 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:52:40 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 24074769 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:39:16 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:52:57 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:52:25 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1294112971.20050708095225@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Urgent Brad question In-Reply-To: <42CE650A.1050209@maynor.net> References: <42CD2072.6060105@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707060429.02688d00@calmail.berkeley.edu> <8ddfc8a705070706265b638230@mail.gmail.com> <42CD3A24.4070506@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a705070707276978b04c@mail.gmail.com> <42CD5A94.5080602@maynor.net> <8ddfc8a7050707100367a4356c@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20050707102933.026596f0@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42CDC4B5.6080805@maynor.net> <42CE5EE7.7080107@bc.edu> <42CE650A.1050209@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 248, in=88979, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/8/2005, 5:35 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> For some reason my laptop came with the full NM> Norton stuff installed, but this one came with just Norton anti-virus NM> and net-security stuff -- no "one-button checkup." I miss one-button NM> checkup, which finds and corrects assorted messes. Well, you could always add the "other norton stuff" for a few bucks. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 11:21:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68GLHJr022304 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:21:19 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:21:36 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01006315@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:51:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5012509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:51:16 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68FpFiD026692 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:51:16 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 25059807 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:51:30 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:51:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:51:12 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <188864489.20050708095112@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 12 egg slots In-Reply-To: <42CE6035.30706@maynor.net> References: <42CE6035.30706@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 250, in=91027, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/8/2005, 5:15 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>week before my move cramming for three (out of seven) MCSE certification >> >> NM> What is MCSE? Monitor of Computer Science Evolution? Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer....one of the keys to promotion in IT field (at least in Microsoft shops, of course) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 12:55:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68HtUJr001526 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:55:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:55:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B8116@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:55:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5022169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:55:30 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68HtIMM015458 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:55:19 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 72D1738DCD2D1 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:55:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Not for Anne Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:54:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Not for Anne > And maybe not for other Wordslers. But try it out! > > http://earth.google.com/ Karen . . or anyone who downloaded this . . When I installed this it then showed: "You are starting Google Earth in "Open GL Software Emulation" mode, which will work but runs more slkowly. We recommend you try "DirectX" mode for the best Google Earth experience." I did that and had trouble running the program. So I uninstalled, downloaded again and re-installed. Now I'm asked the question again, and am debating. My question: did you switch to Direct X and did it work for you? Should I just leave it in GL whatever? Any advice? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 13:00:49 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68I0CJr002039 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:00:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:00:37 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.010066DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:30:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5020427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:30:08 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68HU6Gw011502 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:30:06 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 25069374 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:30:05 -0700 Received: from lester.boisestate.edu ([132.178.209.53]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:30:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:29:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <715352848.20050708112948@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Brad's memorial service In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050708102539.01c00120@pop.gwi.net> References: <200507081358.j68DwLiQ019711@sm.luth.se> <6.2.1.2.0.20050708102539.01c00120@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 250, in=91108, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/8/2005, 8:26 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> 22C, 61% RH---Not uncomfortable for me, but trending that way. 85 degrees F (or 29C) and 22% RH. Very nice. Will be heading for temp of 97/36, which will be nice if you're not working in it. Great for driving with the top down. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 13:01:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68I0CJs002039 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:00:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:01:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01006766@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:56:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5022265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:56:50 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68HumXf015733 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:56:48 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n1so223706nzf for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.9 with SMTP id y9mr605881nzb; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:56:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XmjwhIYzXLh173fzkDRNyCOGV5X7roGNbfATw4Q6+pP+8X8II+Fak/elK1+5muVvMF7YBDN+WPz8e9ldNuTghR4+ion0pxbE5weVX0DQQ22FolBDJ9yTLwkydCgzMNcrwAXa3mHC70Ir6WIda7STb/C3UEsNUWXToKZ2xkZSXHU= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070810566c600ef5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:56:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne In-Reply-To: <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j68HumXf015734 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I didn't have to make those choices. Karen On 7/8/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Subject: Not for Anne > > > > And maybe not for other Wordslers. But try it out! > > > > http://earth.google.com/ > > > Karen . . or anyone who downloaded this . . > > When I installed this it then showed: > "You are starting Google Earth in > "Open GL Software Emulation" mode, > which will work but runs more slkowly. > We recommend you try "DirectX" mode > for the best Google Earth experience." > > I did that and had trouble running the program. > > So I uninstalled, downloaded again and > re-installed. Now I'm asked the question > again, and am debating. > > My question: did you switch to Direct X and > did it work for you? Should I just leave it in > GL whatever? Any advice? > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 13:08:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68I8VJr003340 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:08:35 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:08:46 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B8127@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:58:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5022348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:58:30 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68HwUER015854 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:58:30 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id q3so225243nzb for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.14 with SMTP id j14mr599545nzj; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:58:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Jp7Xmntujy8MNaX/omAdWVjEpXqK92KxACe6tsYtUJ4mLIyJGChYpKDk9UwqbnKtR23jc1w0oaT88pE2O5ivZ05XoGlWYAnFjcJAHH0R59D1qIv/DyUqfsEhrpGpp3aJBOjh0wowEfDD9KGotXBYMYQowvqnnDoXLRTkxciVy2o= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507081058297d9200@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:58:29 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service In-Reply-To: <200507081358.j68DwLiQ019711@sm.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507081358.j68DwLiQ019711@sm.luth.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j68HwUER015856 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/8/05, Torkel Franzen wrote: > I sense Brad's spirit nodding in agreement from a corner of the room, > or possibly that is just one of the cats complaining about the heat. > Certain Texan Wordslers would think this laughable, but to us it is > sweltering. Believe me, it's all relative. I was shivering last night when it went down into the 70's. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 13:13:21 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68ID8Jr003939 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:13:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:13:20 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.010067D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:03:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5022636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:03:53 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68I3q8c016528 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:03:52 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:03:52 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:03:27 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie is that you? BrP (non-subtle version for those take everything literally: Gosh, Karen sounds just like Natalie when she says things lke that) >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/08/05 1:58 PM >>> Believe me, it's all relative. I was shivering last night when it went down into the 70's. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 13:13:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68ID8Jr003938 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:13:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:13:22 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.010067E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:03:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5022625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:03:08 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68I37St016454 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:03:07 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005070818030501400qo2f1e>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:03:06 +0000 Message-ID: <42CEBFD9.50700@istori.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:03:05 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, > My question: did you switch to Direct X and > did it work for you? Should I just leave it in > GL whatever? Any advice? I don't have knowledge of this specific program, but I'd try again with DirectX, perhaps after installing the latest DirectX stuff from Microsoft (use Windows Update, or ). The OpenGL emulation would be slow and perhaps have the same problems anyway. Ideally, you'd get a newer video card with more performance and native OpenGL support, but that may not be a convenient option. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 13:14:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68IE6Jr004007 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:14:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:14:16 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01006821@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:14:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5023122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:14:05 -0400 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68IE5Ov017908 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:14:05 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-163-148.gwi.net [216.195.163.148]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j68IE07I048911; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:14:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050708140102.01bfeda0@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:11:08 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service In-Reply-To: <715352848.20050708112948@gailndan.com> References: <200507081358.j68DwLiQ019711@sm.luth.se> <6.2.1.2.0.20050708102539.01c00120@pop.gwi.net> <715352848.20050708112948@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:29 PM 7/8/2005, Dan Lester wrote: >7/8/2005, 8:26 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > >cwv> 22C, 61% RH---Not uncomfortable for me, but trending that way. > >85 degrees F (or 29C) and 22% RH. Very nice. Will be heading for >temp of 97/36, which will be nice if you're not working in it. Great >for driving with the top down. Sorry, I forgot to specify---the 22C was the temperature that Torkel was complaining about. Here, it is 18C (64F) and holding nicely. Lots of rain south and west of us, some of which is supposed to get this far by tonight. We could use some. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 13:26:11 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68IQ5Jr005432 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:26:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:26:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01006819@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:16:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5023228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:16:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68IG4JD018219 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:16:04 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so225875nzi for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.101.9 with SMTP id y9mr609406nzb; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:16:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sCnB9gj0n11Z2GGNOXrlJ4pz6mBnIhu2mEjODOZxvXpjWBHueBVBqQG5SJhA5TmJBiXNbgDLy+Veo9Ytr7oD6Uhb1/0p0xE08ibONnyLEoXGEpCx+YaR7YqR0+ojRi4NLtKBBbRxCnJgLPFwRaIW3YikwJw70SWaMaHq6X3cPa4= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070811168cf78c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:16:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j68IG4JD018221 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I know. It was very strange, I was lying in bed, thinking, "This feels so weird, what is this feeling?" And then I realized the feeling was "cold". It's the first rain we had in months, and the first time in weeks the temp dropped below 75. The temperature dropped 30 degrees in an hour or so. (Texas' motto is "If you're going to do something, do it dramatically!) Karen On 7/8/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Natalie is that you? > > BrP > (non-subtle version for those take everything literally: Gosh, Karen > sounds just like Natalie when she says things lke that) > > >>> innervator@GMAIL.COM 07/08/05 1:58 PM >>> > > Believe me, it's all relative. I was shivering last night when it went > down into the 70's. > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 14:10:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68JANJr010846 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:10:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:10:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01006A1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:10:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5026786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:10:23 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f5.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68J0LuB024583 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:00:22 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:00:21 -0700 Received: from 64.4.61.204 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:00:21 GMT Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.204] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Morefest Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:00:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2005 19:00:21.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A2B47E0:01C583EF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark > >Dan Lester > > > >>Nope, no family reunions scheduled at present. One was talked about > >>this year, but nothing so far for next year. > > > >Dan, would you like to host PotatoFest '06? wordslurs, any interest in > >going to Idaho next summer? Is it sufficiently NW? > >Rashmi, I want you to know that you were very much missed this year. Thanks. I missed being there! :-( From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 15:59:08 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68Kx1Jr025456 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:59:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:59:08 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01006CC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:59:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5033138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:59:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68Kx0RV007921 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:59:00 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 14so238753nzn for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.18 with SMTP id m18mr631664nzb; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:58:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Q5Z9/qJzzXtkNsWGc9iX8AlsnlhWbMv4WyGZ+h1warAxrNo3H07dqkwP0zPbJz4hxjH3HO07PGqb4qnEkoffvJ3IinguSbEq6vu4BgaWm4fNi8LpjGKkYxk4cAimEJGMAMcANrfvzbm/CPNzUr8HkQd7ujREcUw/mx7PWd0Pczk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507081359647c56e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:59:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cemeteries as Travelogue In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j68Kx0RV007922 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And 10 years later, I saw a of ones like this: http://www.mc.maricopa.edu/dept/d10/asb/anthro2003/godkings/emperial_japan/keyed_tomb.jpeg On 7/8/05, Paul Barfoot wrote: > One of my all time favorite cemeteries is this one: > > http://www-us.flickr.com/photos/davidcharding/20510657/ > > I spent the better part of an afternoon exploring it one summer day in > 1966. > > BrP > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 17:05:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68M52Jr032424 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:05:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:05:12 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01006F4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:05:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5038379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:05:02 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68M51cg017556 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:05:01 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 83365329BED56 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:05:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c58409$12308930$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42CEBFD9.50700@istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Not for Anne Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:04:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kaminski" To: Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Not for Anne > Doris Markland writes, > >> My question: did you switch to Direct X and >> did it work for you? Should I just leave it in >> GL whatever? Any advice? > > I don't have knowledge of this specific program, but I'd try again with > DirectX, perhaps after installing the latest DirectX stuff from > Microsoft (use Windows Update, or > ). > > The OpenGL emulation would be slow and perhaps have the same problems > anyway. > > Ideally, you'd get a newer video card with more performance and native > OpenGL support, but that may not be a convenient option. > > Pete Thanks, Pete. You are a gem. I have tried all your suggestions except the video card. May need to look into that. As of now, all downloaded and nothing works with either GL or Direct X. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 17:32:52 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j68MWeJr002651 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:32:46 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:32:51 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01006FFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:32:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5039711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:32:40 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68MWd3v021027 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:32:39 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so246412nzp for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.119.17 with SMTP id r17mr660568nzc; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:32:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=p8mnC4JEG0OydM45bTM4Cy8xsSGq5Oc4Q3CDe/2lZl3jj5RRkJCwhjNgY7r5eiR/BDCdsxZjbkUqM0YRbr3R0JyfUAa+v/zxuWQilGjSxD3JkEOPs+4fPIjeRBB01bs1qW4NiSKufh4H6fp3QCzPeojHkBphcEPGEH4nj4eifzk= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507081532391315a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:32:38 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne In-Reply-To: <000601c58409$12308930$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42CEBFD9.50700@istori.com> <000601c58409$12308930$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j68MWd3v021029 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How old is your video card, Doris? On 7/8/05, Doris Markland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Kaminski" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: Not for Anne > > > > Doris Markland writes, > > > >> My question: did you switch to Direct X and > >> did it work for you? Should I just leave it in > >> GL whatever? Any advice? > > > > I don't have knowledge of this specific program, but I'd try again with > > DirectX, perhaps after installing the latest DirectX stuff from > > Microsoft (use Windows Update, or > > ). > > > > The OpenGL emulation would be slow and perhaps have the same problems > > anyway. > > > > Ideally, you'd get a newer video card with more performance and native > > OpenGL support, but that may not be a convenient option. > > > > Pete > > Thanks, Pete. You are a gem. I have tried all your suggestions > except the video card. May need to look into that. As of now, > all downloaded and nothing works with either GL or Direct X. > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 19:25:00 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j690OlJr016623 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:24:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:25:00 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B8D8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:24:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5047013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:24:46 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j690Ejdx029686 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:14:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 1101 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Jul 2005 00:14:43 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:14:43 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service Message-ID: <20050709001443.GA92308@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:03:27PM -0400, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Natalie is that you? > > BrP > (non-subtle version for those take everything literally: Gosh, Karen > sounds just like Natalie when she says things lke that) Thanks! Non-subtle always sounds so much more intelligent. And in order not to be a complete pest, one must always sound much more intelligent than subtle. Now, I don't really understand the smug tone some people have when they say that they "shiver when it's 70" ... Only for the lamest is this a braggable indicator of luxury--living in a climate where 70 is cold, etc. (It reminds me of a hero on some food group I used to read--some guy says such and such a place is expensive, to which the hero answers, no it's not, he can put away $25 of sushi any time. I know, that means that the place IS expensive--but logic was secondary to the brimming consciousness of "putting away sushi" ... well even in this flat remote Midwest, there is pretty much a Funky Sushi Bar [tm] for every Starbucks by now ...) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 21:50:03 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j692nmJr001584 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 21:49:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 21:50:02 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B8F40@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:39:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5052185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:39:48 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.43]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j692dlbh021555 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:39:47 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j692dfgJ014037 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 21:39:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42CF3900.6030006@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 21:40:00 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you so much, Lawrence. Your report made me feel a little like I was there. Thanks for standing up for us. -a From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 22:14:55 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j693EiJr005342 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:14:51 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 22:14:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B8DAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:54:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5052645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:54:43 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j692sXaD022906 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:54:33 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1ED8A272E4181 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 21:54:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001201c58431$710d5410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42CEBFD9.50700@istori.com> <000601c58409$12308930$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70507081532391315a3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: Not for Anne Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:35:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > How old is your video card, Doris? I think, 5 years. What do I want to look for in a video card? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 22:58:32 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j693wFJr010149 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:58:16 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 22:58:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B90F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:58:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5058092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:58:15 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j693wEJ7028327 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:58:15 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m7so261336nzf for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 20:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.89.18 with SMTP id m18mr680594nzb; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 20:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:58:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=g9yh/jG+SZq/PIE2dJojSlfYaiwdeUC74z8l4UfXRi1k76iZ0WPEbskprLAZphdiXmzprJL2PKTTS7Xi8Na7rdAOOHLnEGYtPG4CSu4RXMVL/JanQSJePc1zgi0bgdeTzjO1VSeRK7HEHozEvmEkIlDBPCqTbsqPpsjZFc57+9Q= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507082058464ae0db@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:58:14 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne In-Reply-To: <001201c58431$710d5410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42CEBFD9.50700@istori.com> <000601c58409$12308930$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70507081532391315a3@mail.gmail.com> <001201c58431$710d5410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j693wFJ7028331 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 7/8/05, Doris Markland wrote: > > How old is your video card, Doris? > > I think, 5 years. > > What do I want to look for in a video card? Newer than 5 years.:) I think we need to wait for Pete's post; I haven't been keeping up. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 23:24:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j694OVJr012230 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:24:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 23:24:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B90E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 0:24:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5060330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 00:23:17 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j694D4VQ029778 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 00:13:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753932B576 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 21:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <42CE6035.30706@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Paul-Barfoot: Any degree of subtlety invites obsession with irrelevant detail X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 21:12:48 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: 12 egg slots Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 4:15 AM -0700 7/8/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Yes! I can't stand the thought of being trapped inside a dwelling. I >have to have some kind of outside space, no matter how humble or >unscenic. So was the balcony why you moved? I moved for a number of reasons, one of which was my desire for a balcony. The others were, in no particular order: a desire to be closer to a major Caltrain station (or equivalent transit hub, a desire to pay less rent, my suspicion that the landlord was getting ready to sell the property, a general sense of dissatisfaction with where I was, and finding a place I like that met and exceeded my selection criteria. But I wouldn't have moved to a place without a private balcony or patio. >What is MCSE? Monitor of Computer Science Evolution? Formally known as Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer, informally known as Minesweeper Consultant, Solitaire Expert. It's a certification that helps make HR departments happy, but is generally looked down upon by *real* IT people (even when they themselves have one), who like to tell MCSE stories. (My favorite MCSE story comes from a friend of mine whose system administrator at work had a shiny brand-new MCSE and was rather proud of it. My friend's Linux machines weren't resolving DNS, but the MCSE's Windows machines were resolving names and the MCSE was gloating because his Windows was kicking Linux butt. It turned out that the MCSE had WINS turned on, but not DNS. It further turned out that the MCSE thought that WINS and DNS were the same thing. Moreover, he thought that DHCP was part of the same package.) Anyway, to answer the obvious question, I'm not looking for another job at the moment, but it couldn't hurt to be prepared, and since most of the money to do this came out of a grant, the effort cost me little except time. And who knows, if I get the certification, it might be good for a tiny raise. >>Tomorrow I will sleep late, stow away all the kitchen stuff that is now >>strewn across any formerly free surface (a story too long and boring to >>tell) >Sounds good. But I want to hear the long, boring story. I find tales >of interesting. Ah, but I am not a storyteller. What it boils down to is this: I ran out of boxes and was too cheap (and ecologically minded) to buy more, so I re-used the ones I had already taken over to the new apartment. I put the contents of those boxes on the tops of the tables and cabinets and whatnot and took the boxes back to the old apartment, and did this twice. I have to backtrack and explain that I did most of the moving myself. I did hire professional movers to move my upright piano and my furniture, because most of my friends are my age and their backs are also mostly my age, and in any case, a piano is not a thing to be moved either down- or upstairs by amateurs, and I figured that as long as I was spending money to have them move the piano I might as well have them move the sofa bed and the bookshelves. But since their services cost more than twice as much per man-hour as I make per man-hour, I tried (and more or less succeeded) not to use their services for things I could do myself. My van is a wonderful vehicle but it is not a moving truck, and so numerous trips were involved. In a way, this turned out to be a good thing, as it limited the number of consecutive times per trip I had to carry stuff down fifteen steps on one end, and up fifteen steps on the other end. Did I mention that the weather has been seasonably hot and unseasonably humid? Anyway, I saved money (which I do not have a large reserve of) by using vacation time (which I do have a large reserve of). It was a fiscally responsible decision, but the experience left me pretty drained. >We wished for you. You would've loved it. I certainly would have. I didn't spend nearly enough time in Syracuse the last time I was there, and of course I missed the company and the Fest Experience. Ah, well. Maybe next year. Ken Miller Moving Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 23:31:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j694V5Jr012991 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:31:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 23:31:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B92CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 0:31:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5060877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 00:31:05 -0400 Received: from bacon.hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [64.32.216.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j694V4P8031143 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 00:31:05 -0400 Received: from hamjudo.com (hamjudo.com [192.168.1.134]) by hamjudo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j694V4JZ010709 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 00:31:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 00:31:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Kestenbaum X-X-Sender: polygon@bacon.hamjudo.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 12 egg slots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Bookrat wrote: > I have to backtrack and explain that I did most of the moving myself. > I did hire professional movers to move my upright piano and my > furniture, ... But since their services cost more than twice as much > per man-hour as I make per man-hour, I tried (and more or less > succeeded) not to use their services for things I could do myself. Either movers are insanely expensive there, or you are grossly underpaid. Perhaps both. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com Washtenaw County Clerk & Register of Deeds, http://ewashtenaw.org The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor, MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Jul 8 23:34:56 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j694YpJr013227 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:34:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 23:34:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B9220@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 0:34:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5060954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 00:34:50 -0400 Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j694YoNJ031335 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 00:34:50 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.208.234]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E857BE8C7 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 21:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <42CE6035.30706@maynor.net> <42CE6035.30706@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Paul-Barfoot: Any degree of subtlety invites obsession with irrelevant detail X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 21:34:38 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: 12 egg slots Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 9:11 AM -0700 7/8/2005, Roy Jaques wrote: >On 8 Jul 2005, at 12:15, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> What is MCSE? Monitor of Computer Science Evolution? > >It means Bookrat has joined the dark side. What do you mean, "joined"? I've never been paid to manage *nix boxes in my life. The dark side entered my life with my first IT paycheck. I find the closed source world enormously frustrating compared to the open source world. The closed source world in general, and Microsoft and its close partners in particular, remind me of Sci*nt*logy: the path to enlightenment is a toll road, and the only way to advance in knowledge is to tithe generously and often. But one does what one must. If I can't pay rent with my *nix skills, and can pay it with my dark side skills, well, the view I have from my balcony doesn't come for free. Ken Miller Systems Annalist Babbage Engine Works From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 00:13:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j695DlJr017993 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 00:13:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:13:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B927B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 1:03:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5061815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:03:39 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6953dMo000878 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:03:39 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (m208-234.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.234]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FE52B9CC for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Paul-Barfoot: Any degree of subtlety invites obsession with irrelevant detail X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-David-Suzuki: We are overwhelmed with information and most of it is garbage Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:03:24 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: 12 egg slots Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 9:31 PM -0700 7/8/2005, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: >On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Bookrat wrote: >> I have to backtrack and explain that I did most of the moving myself. >> I did hire professional movers to move my upright piano and my >> furniture, ... But since their services cost more than twice as much >> per man-hour as I make per man-hour, I tried (and more or less >> succeeded) not to use their services for things I could do myself. > >Either movers are insanely expensive there, or you are grossly underpaid. >Perhaps both. The latter is perhaps more likely than the former. After all, I work for the state. But I'll let you decide. But first, a clarification: I'm not talking about the wages of the movers themselves; I don't know what they were paid. I'm talking about the per-hour cost charged by the moving company, and I did shop around first so I'm pretty sure I got a reasonably good deal. For three men and a truck I paid $140 per hour (with a three hour minimum). That's $46.67 per man-hour. The last time I took my yearly salary and divided it by the number of hours I'm expected to be at work, it came out to something less than half of that per man-hour. Mind you, I do have a fairly good pension plan, and it's not like any companies around here are hiring front-line sysadmins at any salary. But if Arnold manages to kill CalPERS, which is certainly high on his agenda, there's going to be an exodus of public employees like you wouldn't believe, and I'm not saying I wouldn't be one of them if the right opportunity presented itself. Ken Miller California School of Whackonomics From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 02:51:29 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j697pLJr000143 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 02:51:24 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 02:51:29 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01007C73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 3:51:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5065298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 03:51:20 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j697pJ2m010594 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 03:51:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005070907511801400f3ur6e>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:51:19 +0000 Message-ID: <42CF81F4.3000601@istori.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:51:16 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42CEBFD9.50700@istori.com> <000601c58409$12308930$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70507081532391315a3@mail.gmail.com> <001201c58431$710d5410$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <8ddfc8a70507082058464ae0db@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70507082058464ae0db@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen writes, > Newer than 5 years.:) I think we need to wait for Pete's post; I > haven't been keeping up. It's actually kind of complicated. There a number of variables: * bus type (PCI, AGP, PCIe) * video chip vendor (Nvidia, ATI) * video memory (32Mb - 256 Mb) * output (VGA, DVI, S-Video, composite video) * video card brand (BFG, MSI, eVGA, XFX, Asus, etc.) * price ($40-$90 for what you need; $200-$800 if you're a real gamer :-) * and a bunch of other more subtle details you'd care about if you were bragging at a LAN party Bus type is critical; it won't fit if you get the wrong kind. A 5-year-old computer is probably PCI, but might have an AGP slot, which should be used if it's present. Newer computers have AGP, and PCIe is the thing for new computers. Nvidia and ATI have been tussling for a while, and it's still sort of a religion issue, but Nvidia is starting to pull ahead, and Nvidia's been working more closely with Keyhole anyway, so they're probably the best choice. 32Mb would be adequate, but it turns out 128Mb or even 256Mb might cost you the same, and work better. If you're not put off yet, Doris, what model of computer have you got? We might be able to figure out what bus type you need and go from there. If it's not too hard, your monitor brand and model, too. 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Sincerely, Jamme From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 07:32:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69CWgJr002096 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:32:43 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:32:49 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.01007F4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 8:32:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5067019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:32:40 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69CWeVn020394 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:32:40 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709123240.LFML26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:32:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709123240.GUYT19115.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:32:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42CFC3DC.6030904@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:32:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Latvian References: <42CD85AE.3040103@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>Is the Dz in this Latvian name part of the last name? >>Ilze Sprogis Dz Rucksans >> >> > >I'm not a genealogy expert, but the "Genealogy-related words" table on >this page makes me think it's likely an abbreviation of "dzimiz", or >in , née. > >http://feefhs.org/BALTIC/LV/frg-dag.html > >So I'd read that as "Ilse SPROGIS (née RUCKSANS)". > > THANKS! That had entered my mind as a strong possibility, but when googling for 'dz nee' or other combinations I could think of, I couldn't find any clear evidence. It does make good sense, though. What made me think about it as a possibility was that some of the other Latvian graves had names given that way but with "born" instead of "Dz." I wonder why there are so many dead Latvians in Senatobia, MS. They apparently immigrated in the early 20th century. The tombstones that gave death places all said Memphis. They might have been working in Memphis since Senatobia is not far south of there, though it's likely that lots of people who live and work in Senatobia die in Memphis since somebody very sick would likely be hospitalized there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 07:35:17 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69CZCJr002418 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:35:13 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:35:17 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01007F41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 8:35:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5067094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:35:12 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69CZCEN020506 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:35:12 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709123512.LHTA26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:35:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709123511.GVHH19115.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:35:11 -0400 Message-ID: <42CFC47D.2020306@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:35:09 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Latvian References: <42CD85AE.3040103@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: This one wasn't in that cemetery, but I rather like the picture: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/toes.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 07:42:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69CglJr003345 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:42:48 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:42:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01007F1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 8:42:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5067289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:42:46 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69Cgk40021023 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:42:46 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709124246.LNXW26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:42:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709124246.GWDQ19115.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:42:46 -0400 Message-ID: <42CFC643.9020501@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:42:43 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 12 egg slots References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >Ah, but I am not a storyteller. What it boils down to is this: I ran out >of boxes and was too cheap (and ecologically minded) to buy more, so I > > I still marvel at the concept of buying boxes, something I've never experienced. >re-used the ones I had already taken over to the new apartment. I put the >contents of those boxes on the tops of the tables and cabinets and whatnot >and took the boxes back to the old apartment, and did this twice. > > Makes good sense. >>We wished for you. You would've loved it. >> >> >I certainly would have. I didn't spend nearly enough time in Syracuse the >last time I was there, and of course I missed the company and the Fest >Experience. > > You would've loved clo's porch. >Ah, well. Maybe next year. > > Has Dan responded yet to the Potato-Fest possibility? I'm behind in mail. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 07:46:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69Ck4Jr003903 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:46:05 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:46:11 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B9B2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 8:46:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5067392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:46:03 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69Ck3Nd021346 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:46:03 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:46:03 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:45:38 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Latvian Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU are those your toes? BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 07/09/05 8:35 AM >>> PS: This one wasn't in that cemetery, but I rather like the picture: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Temp/toes.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 07:47:07 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69Cl2Jr004006 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:47:03 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:47:07 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B9A7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 8:47:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5067413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:47:02 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69Cl2hH021421 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:47:02 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709124702.LRHX26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:47:02 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709124701.GWOW19115.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:47:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42CFC743.8010701@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:46:59 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 12 egg slots References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >Mind you, I do have a fairly good pension plan, and it's not like any > > And that is important. I am envious of California's medical coverage of retirees. I was already envious of that and was struck again by it when I got mail from PERS a few days ago informing me that my retirement pay has gone down still again -- not that the PERS pay itself is lower but that the medical insurance has *again* gone up. In the short time I've been retired, the amount I'm paying for medical insurance has gone up over $100 a month. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 07:50:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69ComJr004328 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:50:49 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:50:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B9A8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 8:50:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5067553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:50:47 -0400 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69Col6e021928 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:50:47 -0400 Received: from ibm70aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709125047.LUIS26489.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm70aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:50:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm70aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709125047.GWZA19115.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:50:47 -0400 Message-ID: <42CFC824.50100@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:50:44 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Latvian References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >are those your toes? > > Yes. What made the picture funny to me was that they seem to be on the opposite side of the tombstone. (I did crop them out when submitting the picture to Find-a-Grave.) The reason they're on the is that I took the picture upside down and then flipped it with Lview. I'm trying to be more aware than I was at first of reflections on tombstones. I'm clearly visible in some of the early tombstone pictures as a reflection. And in other cases my shadow is quite distracting. So if I see that is the case with a flat tombstone like this one, I walk around to the other side to take the picture. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 08:06:12 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69D5QJr005937 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:05:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:06:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B99A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 9:05:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5067981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:05:25 -0400 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69D5PYg022943 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:05:25 -0400 Received: from [192.168.254.102] (rrcs-24-173-85-38.sw.biz.rr.com [24.173.85.38]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j69D5NRZ026750 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:05:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42CFCBAA.1080600@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: Anne Toal Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:05:46 -0500 From: Anne Toal Reply-To: annetoal@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> In-Reply-To: <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I never got the joke in the subject header? What is it about geomapping software that is "not for Anne?" I'm a big fan of Google and use several of their programs, and we were using the Google Earth program here before it started to get mentioned all over the net. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 08:45:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69DjQJr010155 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:45:27 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:45:31 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B9AFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 9:45:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5069123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:45:26 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69DjQTn026367 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:45:26 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709134525.QIDR2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:45:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709134525.IBCD12482.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:45:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42CFD4F3.9000801@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:45:23 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Latvian References: <42CFC824.50100@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42CFC824.50100@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I should add that I realize that that grave with my toes is a pretty boring one. I do sometimes throw in boring graves of that kind because I don't want to discriminate against the recently dead, but the reason I wanted that particular one was that there was a nice dog statue to go with it -- a general Satterfield plot stone. I needed a nearby Satterfield grave to go with the dog. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 08:46:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69DkVJr010214 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:46:32 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:46:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B9B00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 9:46:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5069177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:46:30 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69DkUwr026499 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:46:30 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709134630.QISZ2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:46:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709134630.IBGT12482.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:46:30 -0400 Message-ID: <42CFD534.7080801@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:46:28 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42CFCBAA.1080600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42CFCBAA.1080600@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of geomapping and stuff -- we need to talk about GPS devices sometime. I fell totally in love with Harry in Syracuse. But now I need to upload some more graves. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 09:10:54 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69EAiJr012836 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:10:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:10:54 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B9B22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:00:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5069604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:00:44 -0400 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69E0hXr027584 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:00:43 -0400 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:00:43 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:00:16 -0400 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Latvian Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU May I quote this and put it on my tombstone? BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 07/09/05 9:45 AM >>> I don't want to discriminate against the recently dead -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 09:11:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69EAiJs012836 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:10:55 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:11:01 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B9BFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:06:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5069720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:06:02 -0400 Received: from calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69E62gJ028116; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:06:02 -0400 Received: from [24.23.139.230] (account bclark@uhs.berkeley.edu HELO a8p9z5.berkeley.edu) by calmail-fe2.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 119893236; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:06:01 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.2.20050709070214.026a7670@calmail.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@calmail.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:07:53 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Not for Anne In-Reply-To: <42CFD534.7080801@maynor.net> References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42CFCBAA.1080600@gmail.com> <42CFD534.7080801@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:46 AM 7/9/2005, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Speaking of geomapping and stuff -- we need to talk about GPS devices >sometime. I fell totally in love with Harry in Syracuse. But now I >need to upload some more graves. > >-- >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Note: Natalie named our GPS Harry. I love Harry, too. The first thing Larry did was put in Pinole so I could always find my way home. I'm getting older you know. I don't worry about getting lost in San Francisco now either. It was useful to use in Buffalo when we found ourselves with extra time before going to the airport to have our flight cancelled after waiting for six hours. First time we ever had that happen. Fortunately there was a Mircrotel Inn two miles away. It worked out okay because we were pretty tired and we were able to come home the next day very rested. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 09:35:34 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69EZKJr016108 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:35:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:35:32 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B9A75@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:30:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5070536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:30:38 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (s2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69EUb6G030583 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:30:37 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 24150813 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:17:33 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:30:57 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:30:23 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <859336513.20050709083023@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Latvian In-Reply-To: <42CFC3DC.6030904@maynor.net> References: <42CD85AE.3040103@maynor.net> <42CFC3DC.6030904@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 249, in=89345, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/9/2005, 6:32 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> They might NM> have been working in NM> Memphis since Senatobia is not far south of NM> there, though it's likely NM> that lots of people who live and work in NM> Senatobia die in Memphis since NM> somebody very sick would likely be hospitalized NM> there. Well, since many Memphis cemeteries in the past wouldn't have allowed blacks to be buried there, maybe they also discriminated against Latvians. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 09:35:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69EZKJr016105 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:35:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:35:35 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006B9B7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:29:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5070402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:29:02 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (s3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69ET2ju030244 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:29:02 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 25040526 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:43:13 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:29:31 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:28:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1067276112.20050709082856@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: day/night ccd cameras In-Reply-To: <200507090742.j697geTk010120@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200507090742.j697geTk010120@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 253, in=105758, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am not sure what a "flying sauce" camera is, but I'm sure Natalie needs one. Would probably be great to take cemetery pictures, and even better to take pix at Fests of those who are sauced. 7/9/2005, 1:42 AM, jammewu@YAHOO.COM.COM wrote: jYCC> Founded in 1993, TOKIA ELECTRONICS Co., Ltd. jYCC> We are specializing in the manufacture of cctv jYCC> cameras,color ccd cameras,B/W ccd cameras,color jYCC> Dome cameras,B/W Dome cameras,Mini ccd jYCC> cameras,Day/night ccd cameras,high speed cameras, jYCC> Flying Sauce Cameras,wireless CMOS cameras,DVR jYCC> ,DVR Board ,all-in-one camera,IP camera and lens jYCC> and other safety protection video products, From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 09:35:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69EZKJr016109 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:35:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:35:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B9C35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:32:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5070608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:32:27 -0400 Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69EWQjV030808 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:32:27 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 25133555 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:32:42 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:32:59 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:32:25 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <382596948.20050709083225@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 12 egg slots In-Reply-To: <42CFC643.9020501@maynor.net> References: <42CFC643.9020501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 251, in=91382, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/9/2005, 6:42 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Has Dan responded yet to the Potato-Fest NM> possibility? I'm behind in mail. Well, it isn't ruled out....or ruled in....yet. If someone else jumps up in the next month or so, take their offer. But still a number of family issues to consider regarding it. Also, Gail will definitely have to work on the 3rd, as that is the day that she'll be sending quarterly reports to all her clients. You just do NOT delay quarterly investment reports to clients. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 09:35:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69EZKJr016103 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:35:21 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:35:33 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B9A69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:25:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5070206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:25:19 -0400 Received: from S3.cableone.net (s3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69EPIT9029700 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:25:19 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 25040391 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:39:28 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:25:51 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:25:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1039985137.20050709082517@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 12 egg slots In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 253, in=105757, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/8/2005, 10:31 PM, Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: LK> But since their services cost >> more than twice as much >> per man-hour as I make per man-hour, I tried >> (and more or less >> succeeded) not to use their services for >> things I could do myself. LK> Either movers are insanely expensive there, or LK> you are grossly underpaid. LK> Perhaps both. Perhaps both. But when having such services once a number of years ago, their services aren't just for the payment to the guys doing the heavy work, but also for the truck. And if you've ever rented a Ryder or UHaul truck, you know they aren't cheap. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 10:04:36 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69F4MJr019634 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:04:23 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:04:34 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B9AC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:04:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5071657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:04:22 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69F4HiD001558 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:04:17 -0400 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so604621wra for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.30.4 with SMTP id d4mr2626560wrd; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.70 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:03:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=a50Gl49C07btLpw+GmXEdWW8T1KeDvjTEO+KSxoCanpYThAOX7LNHPy2WV86o/71GsHva5yH0T5C8sx8Fl8eOW9Nx+UAMEFn8yUc35NkpEZEtRHFpR1GE1IzQO0djy09gutL21rHkpy0R6rMkwwYdEyQTSwp752V9nOCJ9JcvNw= Message-ID: <83db447a05070908035c465997@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:03:25 -0400 From: Clyde Voigtlander Reply-To: Clyde Voigtlander To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: day/night ccd cameras In-Reply-To: <1067276112.20050709082856@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <200507090742.j697geTk010120@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1067276112.20050709082856@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j69F4MJr019634 On 7/9/05, Dan Lester wrote: > > I am not sure what a "flying sauce" camera is, but I'm sure Natalie > needs one. Would probably be great to take cemetery pictures, and > even better to take pix at Fests of those who are sauced. Or to take pictures of people eating over the sink. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 10:40:57 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69FepJr024246 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:40:52 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:40:56 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006B9CD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:40:47 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5072834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:40:47 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69FelCw005842 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:40:47 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so288921nzf for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.11 with SMTP id o11mr747550nzo; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:40:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NtUntcSHTNBdS4aLfPp+UV5x0OZ5Dc6N4VboSNj97N1rPqgMOWG0GqUfZsZBwsjkBjYcyRfnGMeOPFcvOjvjlgS9g7GkfxSz2+69ic+fr+BY7pa68mLVJ3lUKZSI5aJ7fvvVkSRF6IHKG7BVkEziuzmPHyyKZeLEqFEAdfVPmII= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507090840556bf9e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:40:47 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne In-Reply-To: <42CFCBAA.1080600@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42CFCBAA.1080600@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j69FelCw005843 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It said it wasn't for Macs. On 7/9/05, Anne Toal wrote: > I never got the joke in the subject header? What is it about geomapping > software that is "not for Anne?" I'm a big fan of Google and use several > of their programs, and we were using the Google Earth program here > before it started to get mentioned all over the net. > > -aht > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 12:16:50 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69HGeJr002682 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:16:41 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 12:16:50 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B9BD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:16:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5075597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:16:34 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (s2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69HGYod016106 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:16:34 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 24160425 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 11:03:38 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:17:01 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:16:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1826191504.20050709111627@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: day/night ccd cameras In-Reply-To: <83db447a05070908035c465997@mail.gmail.com> References: <200507090742.j697geTk010120@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1067276112.20050709082856@gailndan.com> <83db447a05070908035c465997@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 249, in=89380, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/9/2005, 9:03 AM, Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >> I am not sure what a "flying sauce" camera >> is, but I'm sure Natalie >> needs one. Would probably be great to take >> cemetery pictures, and >> even better to take pix at Fests of those who >> are sauced. CV> Or to take pictures of people eating over the CV> sink. I think I've seen some of Gail's cooking shows where there was a fair amount of sauce flying, too. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 12:26:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69HQHJr003615 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:26:18 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 12:26:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006B9BE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:26:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5075901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:26:13 -0400 Received: from dels.uri.edu (dels.uri.edu [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69HQDg5016867 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:26:13 -0400 Received: from allies.uri.edu (allies.uri.edu [131.128.1.50]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j69HQDvP012821 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:26:13 -0400 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.102]) by allies.uri.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j69HQ6Wn022051 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:26:08 -0400 Message-ID: <017401c584ab$49744d80$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Police Chief Poll 'revealing... Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:26:03 -0400 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU fyi... http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=22621 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 15:09:47 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69K9RJr023255 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:09:28 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:09:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0100851C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:09:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5079286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:09:27 -0400 Received: from web51302.mail.yahoo.com (web51302.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.168]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j69K9QTL028288 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:09:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 80718 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jul 2005 20:09:26 -0000 Received: from [66.82.9.67] by web51302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 13:09:26 PDT DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=10qqiCLyjzFgGOS576OdPSaMti/7k2zw2Ei50cMWCCwdN7qM6AJI2ALuTtKPlFcu3xP5eaIw1PThCTtZ9oDug8Br56corIpFdtM7sIU3DLk2l1GyPEwELALt9dxYFbxsb/p5r0ENz280NstqnJf9Xw5rrU2isBi4e32tMAv2Xes= ; Message-ID: <20050709200926.80716.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:09:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doris Smith Reply-To: dormarbil@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What a wonderful report, Larry! I have a question for you dealing with cemeteries and burials, and hope you can help me. In doing family research/genealogy research, I have been unable to locate where a great great grandfather might be buried. His name was Abner Gilbert Marsh NEFF. He was from Auburn, Fayette, Iowa and was a 1st Lt. in the Union army, Company F, 9th Iowa Infantry. He was shot in the breast at the Battle of Pea Ridge Arkansas on 9 March 1862.. He died about 3 or 4 days later on either 11 or 12 March 1862. He is not buried in Iowa and I've searched everywhere I know to search. The widow's application papers for pension say nothing about where he is buried. I've not found him in any of the cemeteries that seem a logical place for him to be buried. In some of the reports of the battle, especially ones by his superior officers, it is mentioned that he died in the field hospital but I've not been able to determine where it was. I've even been in contact with the Pea Ridge battlefield personnel. This may have to be a pernanant brick wall that I'm never able to conquer, but I thought there would be nothing to lose by asking if you have a source that I don't have. Thank you for reading this far. Doris Smith (the one in Texas) Lawrence Kestenbaum wrote: Brad's memorial service was held yesterday at 5:00 pm, at the Niles Gallery in the Little Fine Arts Library on the University of Kentucky campus. The room is something of an oddity in an otherwise blah 1974 library building. It's churchlike, symmetrical, with the center section having a higher ceiling; the walls around the side sections are elegantly paneled in an unfamiliar orange wood. At the focal point, behind the podium, is a grand piano, which was not used while I was there; flanking the piano are hinged two-panel screens made from (or perhaps cast in plaster from) old doors, with shadowy writing across them. There were about 50 upholstered wooden chairs, arranged in straight rows to either side of a center aisle, and not all of these were filled by the attendees at the service. The program gave Brad's full name as "Bradley O'Neill Grissom", with his dates as 1948-2005, and opened with this quote: He was a lifelong bachelor but the intricacies of human relationships never ceased to fascinate and delight him. He loved books and movies and the rich tapestry of life. His family and friends will note his passing with a warm smile of remembrance. Stephanie Aken, who was mainly responsible for putting this event together, was the low-key master of ceremonies, and briefly introduced each speaker. There were twelve speakers listed on the program; one apparently declined to speak, and another was ill, but there were also unscheduled speakers. Some of the speakers had come from as far away as oregon, Arizona, and Missouri. Almost all the speakers were librarians. Several of them had lived, as Brad did, in an apartment building on Mill Street (apparently one of the few places librarians can afford to live in Lexington) and been part of "the Mill Street Gang" (a social group in this librarian ghetto). words-L was mentioned by several of the speakers. I had not known that Brad had learned the Polish language in the military, and had been assigned to read Polish newspapers and listen to Polish radio broadcasts for military intelligence purposes. Further, Brad had been fascinated by German language and culture, and probably the best speech was done by James Burgett, a German scholar and UK librarian. Burgett noted that there were two words for "word" in German, the-word-isolated and the-word-in-context, and both senses were important to Brad. He distributed copies of a poem by Rainer Maria Rilke, "Der Panther", in German, with six very different English translations. Rilke's poetry is simple in form, with common words and easy grammar, yet impossible to translate adequately. One of those attempts at translation is as follows: The Panther (Jardin des Plantes, Paris) His tired gaze - from passing endless bars - has turned into a vacant stare which nothing h olds To him, there seem to be a thousand bars, and out beyond these bars exists no world. His supple gait, the smoothness of strong strides that gently turn in ever smaller circles perform a sance of strength, centered deep within a will, stunned, but untamed, indomitable. But sometimes the curttains of his eyelids part the pupils of his eyes dilate as images of past encounters enter while through his limbs a tension strains in silence only to cease to be, to die within his heart. I spoke approximately as follows: I'm here today on behalf of the hundreds of people who knew Brad Grissom through Words-L, the English Language Discussion Group on the Internet. Though perhaps a plurality of Wordslers (as we call ourselves) are academics or librarians, the membership is extremely diverse, and in its heyday, it was an unruly place where debates would often escalate into arguments and flame wars among these highly educated, articulate, and opinionated men and women. Brad Grissom, with his gentleness and civility, was one of the people who helped make this wide-open, brawling forum into a community. He revealed a lot about himself to us, but he was a lot less forthcoming with his own political views than we usually were. I finally got to meet Brad in person when my wife and I visited Lexington some years ago. He was eager to show me the historical and architectural riches here, and enlisted Jim Birchfield to give us a thorough tour. Brad was very excited about my project to catalog politician burial locations which later became the Political Graveyard web site. Of course, he took me to the Lexington Cemetery to see the colossal monument to Henry Clay. And we all talked for some time (at the Atomic Cafe, as Jim Birchfield just reminded me) about Clay's enduring influence in this town. That was a memorable day. I've been asked to read two letters of tribute from Wordslers who knew Brad well. They are very different in style and content, one more historical and cerebral, the other more anguished, but it occurred to me on the way here what these two women have in common: they have both been married for years to men that they met through Words-L. And then I read Anne's letter as follows: My Memories of Brad Grissom by Anne Toal Back in the Dark Ages, that brief period in the development of the Internet before everything was pictures and music and video, we communicated by typing words on a cathode ray tube display. As more and more people began to get online, the net gradually woke up and became self-aware, and it began to ask questions about itself. Who are we? What do we like to talk about? Net denizens began to congregate in discussion groups sorted by common interests, and these groups were named according to the ostensible topic of discussion. One of these groups was named Words-L, and its putative reason for being was the discussion of the English Language. Its earliest members were professors and librarians, with a smattering of other university types. This was 1989, and everything on the net was just words glowing on a screen. There couldn't have been a more perfect place for Brad Grissom. In that low-bandwidth environment, where every byte was parceled out with an eyedropper, Brad's posts on Words-L were treasured by all. Words-L rapidly grew into a chatty, convivial place notorious for topic drift. The English Language was discussed, yes, but frequently the discussions were also about the number of egg slots in a refrigerator, or whether anyone had ever seen a headless chicken. In these fertile grounds Brad's creative juices flowed freely. Brad became one of the Words-L Giants, members whose influence was so pervasive, and whose postings were so wonderful that he permanently endeared himself to the group. His posts were, above all, profoundly human. He felt things deeply, and one suspects, painfully at times. On Words-L, Brad opened a corner of his soul up for public inspection. Another thing Brad did in his posts was show what it meant to be a Southern Gentleman in the late 20^th Century. He never did anything as obvious as instructing the reader that "such-and-such a thing happens like this because this is the South." But every post was embued with the same unique mixture of irony, sadness, and amusement that you can read in Faulkner and Welty. It flowed out of him naturally. No brag, just fact. Finally, Brad was a lover of words, books, and libraries. I remember one post where he worried that libraries were doomed by Barnes & Noble and Borders because they had coffee shops. He saw the new world coming and it wasn't entirely to his liking. He grieved over the loss of the card catalog. I don't know how he felt about the coming of computer labs to the university library. The net isn't the same place it used to be. The purity of words glowing on a CRT has been supplanted by videos, music, spam, and computer viruses. There will never be another place like Words-L either-there can't be. The world has changed too much since 1989, and now we've lost one of our giants. Words-L will carry on, of course, and Brad will never be forgotten. We've got a web site to make sure that doesn't happen. I hope that in whatever kind of Heaven it is that librarians ascend to, Brad is sitting with a computer keyboard and a glass of cold beer, getting ready to post something to the heavenly host that'll have them all chattering and throwing comeback lines at each other for the next millennium of so. Why not? And then I read Marcia's letter as follows: Dear Brad, These are the times when I understand why people believe in life after death. It is not because they want to go on living forever. It is because they want their loved ones to still be with them and hope that they still can see how much they meant to us. So Brad, I really hope you are there so you can see how much you meant to me, your evil twin Torkel and all of the Wordslers. When I heard about your passing, my first reaction was, "That idiot! How you could leave us?!" And then I cried. We only met once face to face but it was something I'll never forget. You took me on that wonderful trip around the South, as a favor to Torkel. Lexington, Tupelo, New Orleans and Memphis. You showed them all to me with the grace of a Southern gentleman. I loved your drawl, I loved how you called me "Miss Marcia" and I loved your conversation hour after hour on the road. You treated me like a queen. After the trip, we slowly lost contact. You quit writing. Every once in a while, you'd call or write out of the blue and it felt like it was just yesterday since we talked. I was disappointed that you didn't write but somehow I understood. Something was troubling you and I never really got to know what. But you were always in my thoughts and I worried about you. Dearest Brad, I hope you can look down and see us crying. I don't think you ever realized the impact you had on me and the rest of the world and I don't think you realized how much we cared. Good-bye and I love you. Marcia I closed by announcing the memorial contributions Wordslers had made to the Lee County Library in Tupelo, Mississippi. The final speaker read a passage which I have heard often in our synagogue: Life is finite. Like a candle, it burns, it glows, it is radiant with warmth and beauty; then it fades; its substance is consumed, and it is no more. In light we see; in light we are seen. The flames dance and our lives are full. But as night follows day, the candle of our life burns down and gutters. There is an end to the flames. We see no more and are no more seen. Yet we do not despair, for we are more than a memory slowly fading into the darkness. With our lives we give life. Something of us can never die: we move in the eternal cycle of darkness and death, of light and life. After the service, there was a reception in the adjoining room. Various Brad memoribilia was on display in the hallway, including a tablet showing Brad's web site, with the face morphing back and forth from Brad to Elvis. Larry --- Lawrence Kestenbaum, polygon@potifos.com The Political Graveyard, http://politicalgraveyard.com Polygon, the Dancing Bear, http://potifos.com/polygon Mailing address: P.O. Box 2563, Ann Arbor MI 48106 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 16:29:22 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69LTEJr005092 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:29:17 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:29:21 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01008611@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:29:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5081950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:29:14 -0400 Received: from goose.inebraska.com (goose.inebraska.com [199.184.119.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69LTDru001535 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:29:13 -0400 Received: from dorishggib674i (dsl-dynamic-209-50-9-049.oma.inebraska.com [209.50.9.49]) by goose.inebraska.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F6B637819000 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:29:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c584cd$39788910$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Stepford Wives? Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:29:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id j69LTEJr005092 Hey, I just discovered that we have a CraigsList in Nebraska. Here's an ad I just saw on it: "WOULD YOU AND YOUR FAMILY LIKE TO BE ON TELEVISION? ABC IS LOOKING FOR FAMILIES THAT TRULY EMBRACE THEIR FEMININE SIDES. ARE STILETTO HEELS PART OF MOM'S EVERY DAY WARDROBE? ARE MANICURED NAILS A MUST? DOES SHE REQUIRE PERFECT HAIR AND MAKEUP BEFORE LEAVING THE HOUSE? ARE ONE OR MORE ROOMS IN YOUR HOME PAINTED PINK? IF THIS SOUNDS LIKE YOUR FAMILY. WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU! " Too bad I don't fit the description. I coulda' been a contender . . . . - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 16:32:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69LW6Jr005482 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:32:07 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:32:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01008652@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:32:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5081997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:32:05 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69LW516001790 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:32:05 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x3so300335nze for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr784088nzx; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 14:32:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qsM/SUqpSsQrvEuI90zMxRjiI9zLm7Cs/KF2+E/zf5QuY7ScVmdjC2NlPxibjrJPI1kVo3Z7I2ZBTeURHJ24EecFONB23f2906iKYX6PbjIFu5rVSK2ktGq7Kh4OEQRoyualHHKmBx+T5nkWE1OEac38h5xLe7qPHObFzDtRGuI= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a705070914324702ec3f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:32:04 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Stepford Wives? In-Reply-To: <000801c584cd$39788910$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000801c584cd$39788910$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j69LW516001791 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, gag. On 7/9/05, Doris Markland wrote: > Hey, I just discovered that we have a CraigsList > in Nebraska. Here's an ad I just saw on it: > > "WOULD YOU AND YOUR FAMILY LIKE TO > BE ON TELEVISION? > > ABC IS LOOKING FOR FAMILIES THAT TRULY > EMBRACE THEIR FEMININE SIDES. ARE > STILETTO HEELS PART OF MOM'S EVERY DAY > WARDROBE? ARE MANICURED NAILS A MUST? > DOES SHE REQUIRE PERFECT HAIR > AND MAKEUP BEFORE LEAVING THE HOUSE? ARE > ONE OR MORE ROOMS IN YOUR HOME PAINTED > PINK? IF THIS SOUNDS LIKE YOUR FAMILY. > > WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU! " > > Too bad I don't fit the description. I coulda' been a > contender . . . . > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 17:16:53 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69MGiJr011586 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:16:47 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:16:52 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.010086E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:16:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5083071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:16:40 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69MGeoQ005049 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:16:40 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709221640.FTUQ2451.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:16:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709221639.ONTH5760.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:16:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42D04CC5.7010608@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:16:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Latvian References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: >May I quote this and put it on my tombstone? > > Indeed you may. >BrP > > > >>>>natalie@MAYNOR.NET 07/09/05 9:45 AM >>> >>>> >>>> > >I don't want to discriminate against the recently dead >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 17:21:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69ML0Jr011850 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:21:01 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:21:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.010086E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:20:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5083222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:21:00 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69MKxmv005448 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:20:59 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709222059.FWDW2451.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:20:59 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709222059.OOTZ5760.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:20:59 -0400 Message-ID: <42D04DC8.2060102@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:20:56 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42CFCBAA.1080600@gmail.com> <42CFD534.7080801@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050709070214.026a7670@calmail.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20050709070214.026a7670@calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Note: Natalie named our GPS Harry. NOT! It was either you or Larry who suggested Harry. I was thinking more in terms of something like Rudolph. I didn't think at first that he sounded like a Harry, but I grew used to it and thought of him as a full-fledged Harry after a while. And oh how I lusted after Harry when I was driving in circles in Syracuse. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 17:41:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69MevJr014030 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:40:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:41:10 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01008708@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:30:57 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5083473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:30:57 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69MUu7i006314 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:30:56 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709223056.GDMM2451.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:30:56 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709223056.OQPP5760.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:30:56 -0400 Message-ID: <42D0501D.8040807@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:30:53 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Latvian References: <42CD85AE.3040103@maynor.net> <42CFC3DC.6030904@maynor.net> <859336513.20050709083023@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <859336513.20050709083023@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Well, since many Memphis cemeteries in the past wouldn't have allowed >blacks to be buried there, maybe they also discriminated against >Latvians. > > That doesn't make any sense. Latvians are white. Southern cemeteries would not have discriminated against Latvians. And I can't imagine why Senatobia, MS, would have been any more than Memphis. The black-white thing re cemeteries is interesting. A student asked me one time in a linguistics class (how cemeteries fit in I have no idea now -- maybe we'd been talking about black/white churches) why cemeteries still seemed to be segregated. I said that I didn't know but that one possibility was that families tend to be buried together -- as in the black and white great-grandparents would be separate, so the great-grandchildren who are buried in family plots are also racially divided. And this reminds me of a conundrum if I ever get around to finding the white Terry cemetery, which I'm sure I will at some point. Terry is a town not far from here -- a suburb of Jackson to the southwest. I have a book of on old cemeteries in Hinds County and followed the directions in it for finding the "Terry Town Cemetery." But I realized later that the one I had found was the black one -- also named Terry Town Cemetery -- not the white one. I put the pictures on Find-a-Grave as the Terry Cemetery, but when I find the white one, which will be a mile or two away from the black one, I don't know whether to just add the graves to the black ones or what. I'm thinking what I'll probably do is submit a cover shot of the white cemetery with a caption saying that the Terry Town Cemetery is in two sections, approximately X distance apart, and just lump the graves together. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 17:41:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69MevJr014029 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:40:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:41:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0100872A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:35:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5083593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:35:21 -0400 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69MZLRu006877 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:35:21 -0400 Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709223521.GGHC2451.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:35:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709223521.ORKZ5760.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:35:21 -0400 Message-ID: <42D05126.8010706@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:35:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: day/night ccd cameras References: <200507090742.j697geTk010120@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1067276112.20050709082856@gailndan.com> <83db447a05070908035c465997@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <83db447a05070908035c465997@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clyde Voigtlander wrote: >>I am not sure what a "flying sauce" camera is, but I'm sure Natalie >>needs one. Would probably be great to take cemetery pictures, and >>even better to take pix at Fests of those who are sauced. >> >> > Or to take pictures of people eating over the sink. > > I'm becoming a . A neighbor has decided to try to sell her car online and needed a picture of it. I told her that I could take one for her. So I did a little while ago. We're going to wait until Monday for me to show her what to do with the picture -- as in how to upload it to the site. She wanted to go on and get the picture taken before the rains arrive. I haven't checked the weather at all today but am worried since I got e-mail from the organizer of a houseboat cruise I'm supposed to go on tomorrow night saying that she would let us know by noon tomorrow whether it was going to have to be canceled because of high winds. I guess I should check on the whereabouts of Dennis. (It's at times like this that I think moving to Bay St. Louis might not have been a good idea.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 17:45:31 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69MjPJr014518 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:45:26 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:45:30 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.010086F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:45:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5083786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:45:24 -0400 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69MjO3l007753 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:45:24 -0400 Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709224524.LNEV539.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm66aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:45:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709224524.EURN4481.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:45:24 -0400 Message-ID: <42D05381.4000107@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:45:21 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Brad's memorial service References: <20050709200926.80716.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050709200926.80716.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Smith wrote: > The widow's application papers for pension say nothing about where he is buried. I've not found him in any of the cemeteries that seem a logical place for him to be buried. In some of the reports of the battle, especially ones by his superior officers, it is mentioned that he died in the field hospital but I've not been able to determine where it was. I've even been in contact with the Pea Ridge battlefield personnel. > > I have the same problem with a gg-grandfather. His Civil War records show exactly where he died -- Fairground Hospital #1 in Atlanta. He died (of pneumonia) on 23 November 1863, with personal effects consisting of $4. But I have no idea where he's buried. My mother said that her great-aunt, daughter of the deceased, said that he was buried in Chattanooga. But she (my gg-aunt) was a very young child at the time of his death, and her mother died a few years later. So she is not necessarily a good resource. Also, it makes no sense that I can see for somebody who died in Atlanta to be buried in Chattanooga. His family was dirt-poor and certainly couldn't have paid for any body-shipping, and the whole CSA army was dirt poor and falling apart by that time. My guess is that he was dumped into an unmarked grave somewhere in the vicinity of Atlanta and that I will never know where. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 17:54:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69Ms5Jr015274 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:54:06 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:54:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.01008711@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:54:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5084030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:54:01 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69Ms0q0008417 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:54:01 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c3so303818nze for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.108.16 with SMTP id g16mr802248nzc; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:54:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Noa+5/ZwdSnYjpfQy/Qw+nayp8902/fKpmCsJH18b7qTk5+Ka2dub0AVFaEgVbeW1esiu1hoCKe2KGpbMEWSeUbzWxMUwQIRG5/Ju9/eh6kSNofP1VJ8TqVLcDe0ArkJd0rJOGQiZqrNdVmWsuZqzw/D3UcnSBzJBF4fwwbDZcQ= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a70507091554520da1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:54:00 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Windows help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j69Ms1q0008418 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What's the keyboard command for refreshing a Windows Explorer window? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 18:23:15 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69NNAJr018540 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:23:11 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:23:15 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.010087E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:23:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5085108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:23:09 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69NN9Tx010526 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:23:09 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.108] (c-24-4-237-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.4.237.171]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005070923230801100ikf2ee>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:23:08 +0000 Message-ID: <42D05C5B.30306@istori.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:23:07 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Windows help References: <8ddfc8a70507091554520da1f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8ddfc8a70507091554520da1f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen asks, > What's the keyboard command for refreshing a Windows Explorer window? F5 Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 18:28:38 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69NSXJr018965 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:28:34 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:28:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.010087B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:28:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5085295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:28:33 -0400 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69NSXtK010869 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:28:33 -0400 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so307988nzf for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.50.11 with SMTP id x11mr788080nzx; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.12 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:28:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Wg5JO0FyDxYUwIqmrANClYC3DrH4TtVMEkTQeec5MwzeyKFmBj0nFawxEJaqvfPhVGb4i5sE71xlvKSZ3vDfZHw2q/FIs2tYw9eUTYAYbqzK/JhQIGAAJidb0s9PXLcZJx2nq0am+YV1tgrZR7sinD8gvXieZ7kRge1HTBvQ/Z0= Message-ID: <8ddfc8a7050709162826b498aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:28:32 -0500 From: A Friend of Andy Reply-To: A Friend of Andy To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Windows help In-Reply-To: <42D05C5B.30306@istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8ddfc8a70507091554520da1f@mail.gmail.com> <42D05C5B.30306@istori.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id j69NSXtK010870 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you. I don't know why it doesn't say that on the menu! On 7/9/05, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen asks, > > > What's the keyboard command for refreshing a Windows Explorer window? > > F5 > > Pete > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 18:36:48 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69NahJr019853 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:36:44 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:36:48 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01008802@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:36:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5085461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:36:42 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69NagfG011404 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:36:42 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709233642.EBVW5760.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:36:42 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709233642.LYYN23099.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:36:42 -0400 Message-ID: <42D05F87.9020901@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:36:39 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Dennis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I finally got around to checking on the whereabouts of Dennis. Is it just my tired old eyes that make it appear that there is no purple (>50%) on this strike-probability map? http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200504_strike.html Jackson's weather forecast makes me think it's unlikely that tomorrow night's houseboat party is going to go on, though I can't really see how Dennis would affect Jackson greatly since hurricanes move northeast, meaning that if it hits the Mississippi coast, it will veer off pretty far to the east of Jackson, and there's extra land in the way before Jackson if it hits Louisiana, thus putting Jackson on the route. I've realized via e-mail, though, that preparing is going on. I've gotten lots of e-mail today from the Oktibbeha County Humane Society mailing list about shelters that are ready to take in evacuated animals. Hey, Richard: Last year's invitation still stands. If you have to evacuate, Jackson is not that far up the road, and I have lots of sleeping space. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 18:52:05 2005 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j69NpuJr021991 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:51:59 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.103 ([128.192.1.103]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:52:05 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.01008813@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:41:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5085588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:41:56 -0400 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j69NftK5011941 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:41:55 -0400 Received: from ibm63aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709234155.EDJO5760.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm63aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:41:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm63aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050709234155.LZSZ23099.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:41:55 -0400 Message-ID: <42D060C0.9050509@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:41:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dennis References: <42D05F87.9020901@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42D05F87.9020901@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > night's houseboat party is going to go on, though I can't really see how > Dennis would affect Jackson greatly since hurricanes move northeast, > meaning that if it hits the Mississippi coast, it will veer off pretty > far to the east of Jackson, and there's extra land in the way before > Jackson if it hits Louisiana, thus putting Jackson on the route. Hmm. I clicked on the url in this mail to see whether it worked, and I noticed the Monday and Tuesday dots. They don't make it seem to be veering east upon hitting land. They make it appear to be heading up US-49 and then I-55. Interesting. If I still lived in Starkville, I would perhaps audit some weather courses. Have I mentioned before that I read somewhere that a huge percentage of tv meteorologists in the US are graduates of the MSU meteorology program? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 22:30:10 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6A3TiR4009027 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:29:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 22:30:09 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006BA1EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:26:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5088801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:26:24 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j6A2GNOE026648 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:16:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 92539 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jul 2005 02:16:21 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:16:21 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Latvian Message-ID: <20050710021621.GB60479@words-l.org> References: <42D04CC5.7010608@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42D04CC5.7010608@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 05:16:37PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >May I quote this and put it on my tombstone? > > > Indeed you may. *sigh* Another non-subtle response ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 22:30:16 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6A3TiR4009025 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:29:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 22:30:14 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006BA1D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:19:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5088945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:19:36 -0400 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6A2JZrT026819 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:19:35 -0400 Received: from ibm56aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050710021935.JQVG29499.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm56aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:19:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm56aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050710021935.EAML11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:19:35 -0400 Message-ID: <42D08573.5000208@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:18:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Flashing References: <42D07805.2070206@maynor.net> <1173360427.20050709193919@gailndan.com> In-Reply-To: <1173360427.20050709193919@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: >Why not just leave it up essentially all the time? No reason not to, >is there? > > The camera is already unwieldily large, so I guess one more thing poking out wouldn't hurt. Thanks for that thought. (I must admit that I used the old camera on my second day of picture-taking at the fest -- the day I took pictures of Bryan soccering and stuff like that -- and that reminds me that I have more of those pictures to put online at some point, including more of BrP's granchildren. The reason I used the old camera that day was that I didn't want to schlep the cumbersome camera around. The old one fits neatly in my purse -- and takes just as good pictures most of the time.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 22:30:19 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6A3TiR5009027 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:30:10 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 22:30:19 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006BA143@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:30:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5089300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:30:37 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6A2Uac4027613 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:30:36 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050710023036.HCEH2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:30:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050710023036.MOHA12482.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:30:36 -0400 Message-ID: <42D08849.3070308@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:30:33 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Re Wetness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In answer to Dan's wetness question, here's what wunderground says for tonight: ************ Tonight Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 70s. East winds around 5 mph becoming northeast 10 to 15 mph after midnight. ************ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Jul 9 22:30:14 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6A3TiR4009026 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:29:45 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 22:30:13 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006BA02D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:24:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5089173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:24:58 -0400 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6A2OwoI027232 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:24:58 -0400 Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([68.222.100.242]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050710022458.GYZX2463.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:24:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.222.100.242]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050710022458.MNJU12482.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:24:58 -0400 Message-ID: <42D086F7.9040805@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:24:55 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: day/night ccd cameras References: <200507090742.j697geTk010120@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1067276112.20050709082856@gailndan.com> <83db447a05070908035c465997@mail.gmail.com> <42D05126.8010706@maynor.net> <1005714215.20050709193406@gailndan.com> <42D08264.2040405@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <42D08264.2040405@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In answer to the question of car-selling sites, here's what I sent my neighbor yesterday -- I just discovered that I still had a copy: ************************ I haven't explored this site, but it looks like a possibility: http://www.edmunds.com/used/index.html?mktcat=used&kw=used+cars+mississippi&mktid=ga262162 If that's too long to click on, here it is in tinyurl form: http://tinyurl.com/chaw5 Here's another possibility: http://direct.autotrader.com/2/lp2-5/index.html?LNX=SPGOOGLESELLACAR And this one: http://www.livedeal.com/homeindex.jsp -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 10 00:18:40 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6A5I1R4015493 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:18:38 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006BA38C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Jul 2005 0:12:16 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5095263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:11:38 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j6A3s70N000669 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:54:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 42021 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jul 2005 03:54:04 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:54:04 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: day/night ccd cameras Message-ID: <20050710035404.GA41180@words-l.org> References: <200507090742.j697geTk010120@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1067276112.20050709082856@gailndan.com> <83db447a05070908035c465997@mail.gmail.com> <42D05126.8010706@maynor.net> <1005714215.20050709193406@gailndan.com> <42D08264.2040405@maynor.net> <42D086F7.9040805@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42D086F7.9040805@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 09:24:55PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > In answer to the question of car-selling sites, here's what I sent my > neighbor yesterday -- I just discovered that I still had a copy: In these days of terrorism and greed, it would be a good idea to got to a safe haven for car sales: http://christiancarsales.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 10 00:18:44 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6A5I1R4015498 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by bayeschecker for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:18:41 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.006BA450@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Jul 2005 0:11:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5095524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:11:21 -0400 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [69.55.236.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j6A3xHbi000971 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:59:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 44586 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Jul 2005 03:59:15 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:59:15 -0500 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not for Anne Message-ID: <20050710035915.GB41180@words-l.org> References: <8ddfc8a705062811542268c2a0@mail.gmail.com> <000601c583e6$28da2970$0400a8c0@dorishggib674i> <42CFCBAA.1080600@gmail.com> <42CFD534.7080801@maynor.net> <6.0.1.1.2.20050709070214.026a7670@calmail.berkeley.edu> <42D04DC8.2060102@maynor.net> <20050710021736.GC60479@words-l.org> <42D088AD.6080005@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42D088AD.6080005@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 09:32:13PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >>how I lusted after Harry when I was driving in circles in Syracuse. > >> > >> > >Did you see that? Out of context it sounds like you'd > >got it bad for some guy ... har! > > > Hardeharhar. But I do find my wording odd. I meant that I lusted for > him, not that I lusted after him. He was not with me at that time. > Language nuances are interesting. Huh, what planet are YOU on. Nuances are not only uninteresting, they are against God and nation. Please try to speak in "bold strokes". Or broad. Or bold. Whatever. BFD. The next person using nuance is for it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 10 00:18:45 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6A5I1R4015499 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:18:42 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.006BA3BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Jul 2005 0:26:52 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5097541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:26:52 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (s2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6A4QpuS002816 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:26:52 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 24193435 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 22:14:06 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:27:25 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:26:51 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <1246028835.20050709222651@gailndan.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: selling that car MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 249, in=89467, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie....Edmunds is just an agent or front for autotrader, it appears. Not that that is bad....as autotrader is ok from all i know. But I just searched for Camrys within a hundred miles of my zip code. Of the thirty of them, ALL were being sold by dealers. Maybe this just isn't a place where individuals sell them. Of course many of the car sales on ebay or anywhere else are from dealers too. But I've never seen one where ALL were. ebay has 135 camrys right now, but that's nationwide. again, most are from dealers. dan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Jul 10 00:18:46 2005 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gtoal.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j6A5I1R4015497 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:18:04 -0500 Received: from 128.192.1.101 ([128.192.1.101]) by spamfilter for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:18:45 CDT Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.006BA46B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:47:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5095123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:47:56 -0400 Received: from S2.cableone.net (s2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6A3ltge000385 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:47:56 -0400 Received: from authmail.cableone.net (unverified [24.116.0.62]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 24191879 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:35:09 -0700 Received: from LAPTOP ([69.92.185.46]) by authmail.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:48:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:47:55 -0600 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) Professional Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan Message-ID: <493904413.20050709214755@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Latvian In-Reply-To: <42D080B6.9030606@maynor.net> References: <42CD85AE.3040103@maynor.net> <42CFC3DC.6030904@maynor.net> <859336513.20050709083023@gailndan.com> <42D0501D.8040807@maynor.net> <10810457752.20050709192852@gailndan.com> <42D080B6.9030606@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 249, in=89462, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.0.62 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 7/9/2005, 7:58 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Re Hispanics and Catholics and Jews, I find those NM> weird categories. Well, it is the KKK. I assume that is because they're "not white Christians". Our library in SW Colorado had the papers of the KKK group from a nearby town in the twenties. There were essentially no blacks there, but were plenty of Catholics and "Mexicans" (not all were from Mexico, but they spoke Spanish). Their papers are talking about marching by a catholic church, going down to "bean town" and beating up some "mexicans" and so forth. There weren't enough Jews around there either for them to be concerned with them. NM> Catholics and Jews can be either black or white, NM> afaik, though I've NM> known very few black Catholics and can't think of NM> any black Jews I've NM> ever known. I've never been quite sure what NM> "Hispanic" means. Yes, I NM> know the word, but I don't know how it fits re NM> "race." Well, we could get into a LONG discussion on Hispanic, Iberian, Spanish, Mexican, Mexican-American, Latino, etc, etc. But I won't. dan